[1:31] Welcome every welcome everyone and good
evening. Today is Tuesday, April 21st,
[1:37] 2026 and the time is 6 pm. I will call
to order the regular meeting of the
[1:41] following will come to order at the
Victorville City Council in the same
[1:44] council sitting as the Victorville
Library Board of Trustees, the Southern
[1:48] California Logistics Airport Authority,
successor agency to the redevelopment
[1:52] agency, the city as a housing asset
successor, the Joint Powers Finance
[1:57] Authority, and the Victorville Water
District. Madam Clerk, will you kindly
[2:00] call the role?
>> Council member Godam
[2:02] » here. Council member Irving
>> here.
[2:04] » Council member Mora
>> here.
[2:06] » Mayor Prom Haramman
>> here.
[2:07] » Mayor Bisera
>> here. We have quorum.
[2:10] » Thank you, ma'am. If you would please
stand for the invocation and pledge of
[2:13] allegiance. Tonight, invocation will be
led by Pastor KS from Bible Baptist
[2:17] Church and our pledge will be led by
Lieutenant John Kluff.
[2:23] Would you join with me in prayer,
please? Our heavenly father, we come to
[2:27] you and we come to you with humble
hearts, thanking you for everything that
[2:30] we have and that we are. For all the
abundant blessings that you have given
[2:35] to us, we recognize our unworthiness of
them. And so tonight we praise your
[2:39] name. Father, we thank you for your son
who died that we might live. We thank
[2:44] you for salvation that is found in his
name. And we thank you, Father, for the
[2:48] truth, the way, and the life that he is.
Father, tonight I bring these council
[2:54] members before you and I ask for your
wisdom upon them and your direction. I
[2:58] thank you for each of them, their desire
to serve our city and each community
[3:03] which they represent. Thank you for
these city workers, Father, who give
[3:07] themselves to this great city to serve
it, to strengthen it. And Father, I pray
[3:12] for a wisdom on from on high that would
come upon them and you'd bless this
[3:15] meeting this evening. And it's in Jesus
name we pray. Amen.
[3:19] » Amen.
[3:23] » The pledge of allegiance.
Ready? Begin
[3:37] with liberty and justice for all.
[3:44] » Thank you, sir.
Madame clerk, will you please present
[3:48] the agenda and any revisions there, too?
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. There are no
[3:51] revisions to the agenda this evening.
>> Thank you, ma'am. At this time, my
[3:55] council members, any conflict of
interest?
[3:59] » Okay, we'll now move on to public
comment. Madame Clerk, is there any
[4:02] request to speak?
>> Yes, Madame Mayor. Welcome to tonight's
[4:05] meeting of the Victorville City Council.
Your city council is interested in your
[4:09] ideas and opinions and furthermore
endeavors to incorporate them into its
[4:13] deliberations. At the same time, the
council must be able to carry out its
[4:16] business in an organized and efficient
manner free from material disruption.
[4:20] Therefore, this meeting will be
administered in accordance with the
[4:23] council's established policies and
procedures and government code section
[4:26] 54957.9
and 54957.95.
[4:31] Individuals may speak on agenda items or
on issues not posted on the agenda
[4:35] during the public comment section,
provided those issues are within the
[4:38] subject matter jurisdiction of the city
council. Individual speakers may address
[4:42] the council once per public comment
period and once per each public hearing
[4:45] item for up to three minutes. Additional
time may be allotted for appeal hearings
[4:49] in accordance with the city's adopted
policy and procedure manual. Those who
[4:53] desire to comment on a public hearing
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[4:56] until that particular public hearing has
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[5:04] members to engage in dialogue with any
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[5:07] periods, please know your comments and
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[5:10] consideration by council members when
discussing the particular agenda item.
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[5:17] statements or questions or may request
that the staff report back to the
[5:20] council at a subsequent meeting.
Speakers are requested to comment as
[5:23] briefly as a subject permits. Once
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[5:27] be called on by name then recognized by
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[5:30] state the item number that will be
addressed or that the subject is a
[5:33] non-aggendaized matter. Audience members
may not disrupt, disturb, or otherwise
[5:37] impede the orderly conduct of this
meeting, and those who do are subject to
[5:40] removal from the meeting pursuant to
code penal for penal code 403. Your
[5:44] understanding and cooperation are
appreciated. Our first speaker this
[5:48] evening is Jim Hillard on a
non-aggendaized item.
[5:57] » Good afternoon everyone or evening. See
a lot of people I voted for here.
[6:02] Oh, can can you guys hear me better now?
Okay. Good evening. Uh, I'm here.
[6:07] There's a just two or three issues I
wanted to bring up. I'm basically
[6:10] representing my mom here. uh she's 86
years old and um she's getting uh bills
[6:17] from the Bertech Waste Management
Company, you know, stating that she
[6:23] they've been they came by and they
dropped off like a big trash can in
[6:25] front of her yard, you know, and I
believe it's part of this state assembly
[6:29] bill that was passed that's requiring
everybody to have like certain things.
[6:34] And so she uh has been told that she
could apply for an exclusion by filling
[6:39] out a form, which she's been doing for
the past three or four years, but for
[6:42] some reason they forgot to send it to
her this past year. And uh in doing so
[6:47] now, they send her a bill for like $200
or something. And so I had a
[6:51] conversation with the manager over there
about that and they said that they would
[6:54] go ahead and still exclude her for this
year. But um their requirements are that
[6:59] she has to take her trash to a sort
facility which is out in felin which is
[7:04] approximately 20 miles from her house.
This is like a 40 40 mile round trip and
[7:09] she has to do that uh 12 times a year.
And she said that and the manager also
[7:14] told me that the previous um
requirements were that they were
[7:19] citizens were supposed to bring their
trash there 52 times a year. That's once
[7:24] a week. And in other in order to get
simply get receipts to provide receipts
[7:29] to um be excluded and that seems like
really completely absurd and excessive
[7:35] that that needs to be addressed. So I
did have a conversation with her. She
[7:39] said they did reduce it to 12 receipts a
year. That's once a year. But the
[7:43] problem is is a lot of people don't
produce that much trash, especially a
[7:46] single senior citizen living by herself.
And then and then it becomes an
[7:50] imposition for her to have to drive 40
miles round trip all these times, you
[7:55] know, just to get receipts to prove to
the Berech company who's making like a
[7:59] hundred million dollars a year on this,
you know, and it's it's it's wrong and
[8:04] it needs to be addressed. And uh I did,
like I said, I did talk with the manager
[8:07] there about this. She said she's open to
suggestions about um revising that form.
[8:12] And some suggestions I have is that you
know if it if it imposes an undue
[8:16] hardship on a senior um it should be
addressed and it should be granted like
[8:21] without question. So that's one issue.
The other issue um is I I have tried to
[8:27] reach um several like different county
members um uh representatives offices
[8:33] and usually uh I get no no answer to any
phone call ever. I always have to leave
[8:38] messages and wait for somebody to call
me back. And it's usually some secretary
[8:42] there that doesn't know how to do
anything. And it's sad to me that this
[8:46] is how things are run. And I think it
should be should they should do a better
[8:50] job and that the people that we
represent should be available to the
[8:54] public, people like us directly face to
face, so we can sit out and talk about
[8:58] these stuff and hack hack them out. The
guy that I did talk to, he did
[9:02] » their time is up.
>> Sir, can I ask you a question? Where
[9:06] does your mother live? Over here.
>> Where does your mother live?
[9:09] » She lives right down the street on
Palmdale and Amethyst.
[9:12] » So in the county section.
>> Yeah, we've been trying to get a hold of
[9:15] Sanino County, too. We'll have fun with
that. Mr. Mensler, can we at least give
[9:20] them
>> I I think on that issue because we do
[9:23] have some folks here that that certainly
represent us as the city on all of our
[9:27] solid waste related stuff. So either
Doug Matthews is in the back or Ben
[9:31] Lucha is over here. He's our
environmental program manager. maybe
[9:34] before you leave, they can meet you in
the back and at least uh offer you some
[9:38] guidance uh because if you're not in our
jurisdiction, there's probably little we
[9:42] can do uh directly, but we may be able
to give you some good advice on on how
[9:47] to how to handle your particular
situation.
[9:49] » Uh the second one I think was regarding
county staff, not necessarily city
[9:53] staff, if I understood you correctly.
For me, it's pretty much been anybody
[9:57] I've ever tried to get a hold of. But,
um, I did reach out to the county clerk
[10:02] and and the secretary called this person
that I mentioned, I guess, on behalf of
[10:07] their office and then he called me back
and he said, "We're just going to defer
[10:10] to her on that." And that's to me,
that's not how you handle it. You know,
[10:15] these people probably don't know how to
resolve problems like the people who are
[10:19] represented can. You know, they probably
don't have the power to do it. So,
[10:23] people won't listen to them anyway. you
know. So, um,
[10:29] » yeah. So, let's start with Doug and and
Ben in the back. But, you know, to the
[10:34] extent you run into that experience, I
agree. I mean, regardless of what
[10:36] jurisdiction you're in, if there are
issues, you know, I would say you're
[10:40] close enough to to our jurisdiction. If
we can at least hear what your issues
[10:44] are, we can certainly, if it's not
something we can help out with directly,
[10:47] certainly something we could potentially
influence from our end, government to
[10:50] government, being able to at least
connect with the right person to be able
[10:53] to get you the service you need.
>> The thing that the thing that really
[10:56] bothered me about it was they said that
if she didn't pay her pay the bill, they
[10:59] were going to put a levy on her home.
And that just really ticks me off.
[11:03] If it never that ends up happening,
we're going to have a massive class
[11:06] action lawsuit. Okay. So, just FYI,
>> if your mom needs your trash dump, we're
[11:13] going to Somebody back there will give
you my phone number. I'll go pick up.
[11:16] » We've been taking her trash to the dump
every couple months. I'm the one that
[11:19] helps her do that.
>> Okay. But if your mom needs help, have
[11:22] her call me. I'll go pick up the trash.
>> 40 miles round trip to do it.
[11:25] » I get it.
>> I'll dump it in mine. I can understand
[11:28] that.
>> Can I get you on the phone, though?
[11:30] » Yeah. They'll give you They'll give you
my number. They'll give you somebody
[11:33] back there. Juan, give them my number.
>> I think we'll find some assistance to
[11:37] get the mayor out there.
>> All right.
[11:39] » Thank you, sir.
>> Thanks, guys.
[11:41] » Our next speaker is Mary State on a
non-aggendaized item.
[11:57] » Good evening. U my purpose for coming
this evening was to thank our sheriff's
[12:02] department and our first responders and
our um fire department. Uh there was
[12:08] recently tragedy on my street. Uh crime
is on a upcline on off a wagon wheel in
[12:15] La Mesa.
Okay. And and I would I'm just
[12:19] requesting like for the city to look at
giving our sheriffs more funding
[12:25] as well as our state agency and our
federal agency. so that they could have
[12:28] more pathways for keeping our community
safe and that they can have a point of
[12:34] contact with the community when there's
um hotspots that they need to address.
[12:40] But once again, they have to have the
staffing, they have to have the funding
[12:43] to make that possible. So um that's that
was my main uh reason for speaking
[12:50] tonight. I didn't have enough time to
speak the last time that I came when I
[12:53] addressed your um other programs that
you provide for the senior citizens, but
[12:58] we definitely desperately need um more
sheriffs to be able to do more patrols
[13:04] to keep our city a safe place to live,
work, and play as is advertised on our
[13:11] on your website for for the city of
Victorville. So, thank you very much.
[13:15] And please do feel free to contact me
should you want any additional
[13:19] information. And also, it would be nice
to suggest them having a neighborhood
[13:24] watch. I'm I'm from the foothills of
Aladena and we had neighborhood watch
[13:29] there and that sort of helped keep crime
at bay because they work with the
[13:34] sheriffs to let them know what was going
on. So, I just wanted to give that a
[13:37] suggestion because I don't think that we
have neighborhood watch. Mary, do we
[13:40] have your information, a contact number
that we can pass on to the sheriff's?
[13:44] » I can give it to the city clerks over
there and you all can feel free to
[13:48] contact me and we could sit down and
have a round table because it's about
[13:51] making our city safe. Like I said, there
was recently a really a bad tragedy and
[13:55] I will leave it there.
>> Thank you very much for coming.
[14:00] » Thank you, Madam Mayor. I don't have any
additional speaker cards. However, we
[14:03] did receive one public comment via email
that was distributed to the council and
[14:08] posted to the website. Thank you very
much. Our first business of order is a
[14:13] consent calendar items 1 through 13.
At this time, I'll invite a motion.
[14:20] » Move to adopt.
>> Second.
[14:24] » First by council member Godan, a second
by Mayor Prom Haramman. Madam clerk,
[14:30] will you take the vote?
>> Council member Godan.
[14:33] » Yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[14:34] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[14:36] » yes.
>> Mayor Prom Haramman,
[14:38] » yes. Mayor Bisera.
>> Yes.
[14:39] » Motion passes unanimously.
>> We've now taken action on items 1
[14:43] through 13 in accordance with
recommendation as set forth on the
[14:46] agenda. We'll move on to written
communications. Item 14, Edward Burn
[14:51] Memorial Justice Assistance Grant. Mr.
Mensler, would you kindly introduce this
[14:56] item?
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor and members of
[14:58] the council. This is an a grant uh
called the Edward Burns Memorial Justice
[15:04] Assistance Grant. It's a grant that
we're used to uh getting through the
[15:08] sheriff's department. The sheriff's
department will take the lead in
[15:10] applying for these funds as they're the
eligible party to do so. Uh and then
[15:15] ultimately uh pass those funds through
to be spent through uh our our budget.
[15:19] And so that's a big part of why this
item is here is uh to deal with the
[15:24] appropriations on the revenue uh and the
expenditure side uh but then also
[15:29] accepting the grant. And this particular
grant um will be used largely to fund
[15:34] overtime worked with a number of our uh
uh multiple enforcement team uh and gang
[15:40] you unit uh specialized enforcement uh
efforts. Uh and so and largely it's uh
[15:45] funding uh the overtime for those. And
so with that, the item has been authored
[15:51] um by the police captain, Mr. Jerry
Davenport. Though he's not here, we have
[15:56] Lieutenant John Kluff available to
answer any questions or comments you
[15:59] might have. Thank you, sir. Madam clerk,
would you please read the recommendation
[16:03] » that the honorable city council adopt
resolution number 26-019
[16:08] and 26-020,
thereby accepting grant funds from the
[16:12] Department of Justice's Edward Burn
Memorial Justice Assistance Grant
[16:16] Program for 2023. Authorize the city
manager or his designate to finalize all
[16:21] documents needed to execute the grant
contract and amend the annual budget for
[16:25] fiscal year 2025 2026 to reflect an
additional appropriation in the amount
[16:30] of $75,351.
[16:34] » Thank you. At this time, we'll do
technical questions from council
[16:37] members. Council member Godan,
>> I have none. Thank you.
[16:40] » Council member Mora,
>> I don't have any. Thank you.
[16:43] » Council member Irving,
>> I don't have any questions. Thank you.
[16:46] Mayor Tim Herman.
>> I have no questions. Thank you.
[16:49] » And I have none. I'll invite a motion
for this item.
[16:52] » Move to adopt staff recommendation as to
points one, two, and three as presented
[16:57] on the agenda.
>> Second.
[16:58] » The first by council member Goden. A
second by council member Irving. Madam
[17:03] clerk, will you take the vote, please?
>> Wait, I'm sorry. Comments on the pending
[17:07] motion.
>> Mayor Pam Herman, comments on the
[17:11] pending?
>> I have none.
[17:12] » Council member Mora,
>> I have none. Thank you. Counciloman God.
[17:16] » I have none.
>> Councilman Irving,
[17:18] » no comments.
>> Okay. Now, Madam Cler, will you take the
[17:20] vote, please?
>> Council member Godan,
[17:22] » yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[17:23] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[17:26] » yes.
>> Mayor Prom Haramman,
[17:28] » yes.
>> Mayor Bera,
[17:29] » yes.
>> Motion passes unanimously.
[17:31] » We've now taken action to approve
staff's recommendation as presented on
[17:34] the agenda. Item 15, Homeland Security
Grant Program and Ballistic Shield
[17:40] Purchase. Mr. Menser, would you kindly
introduce this item? Thank you, Madame
[17:44] Mayor and members of the council. This
item also uh deals with the accepting of
[17:47] grant funds. Uh this one, the 2023
Homeland Security Grant program, also
[17:52] applied for by the sheriff's department
and made available uh to assist us in
[17:58] our uh efforts. Uh this item uh also
deals with the revenue and expense side
[18:03] of the uh grant receipt and expenditure.
Uh this one is intended to spend uh on
[18:09] ballistic shields uh for use during
critical incidents. Uh really to help
[18:14] ensure additional uh safety and uh
personal protective equipment on some of
[18:18] the u uh critical incidents uh such as
active shooter type events. And so with
[18:24] that uh this item also has been authored
uh by the police captain, Mr. Jerry
[18:30] Davenport, uh Mr. Jerry Davenport. Uh
but we have Lieutenant John Kluff
[18:34] sitting in for him. Uh we're both
available for any questions or comments
[18:37] you might have.
>> Thank you, sir. Madame Click, would you
[18:39] please read the recommendation?
>> That the honorable city council adopt
[18:42] resolution number 26-022
accepting grant funds for the 2023
[18:47] Homeland Security Grant Program. Adopt
resolution number 26-023
[18:52] amending the annual budget for fiscal
year 2025 2026 to reflect an additional
[18:57] appropriation the amount of $31,417
and authorize the purchase of ballistic
[19:03] shields from blackbox safety.
>> Thank you ma'am. At this time we'll do
[19:08] technical questions from council
members. Council member Irvy,
[19:11] » no questions. Thank you.
>> Counciloman Mora,
[19:14] » no questions. Thank you.
>> Councilwoman God,
[19:16] » I have none.
>> Mayor Pam Herman,
[19:18] » I have none. And I have none. I'll
invite a motion for this item.
[19:22] » Go ahead.
>> Move to approve staff recommendation as
[19:25] it pertains to items one, two, and
three.
[19:28] » Second.
>> We have a first by Mayor Pam Haramman, a
[19:32] second by Counciloman Mora. Madame
Clerk.
[19:36] » Yes.
>> Comments on the pending motion?
[19:40] » I have none.
>> Council Mora,
[19:42] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Council God,
[19:44] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Council Irving,
[19:45] » no comments. Thank you.
>> And I have none. Now, Madame Clerk, will
[19:49] you take the vote, please?
>> Council member Godan,
[19:52] » yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[19:53] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[19:54] » yes.
>> Mayor Pam Haramman,
[19:56] » yes.
>> Mayor Bera,
[19:57] » yes.
>> Motion passes unanimously.
[19:59] » We've now taken action to approve
staff's recommendation as presented on
[20:03] the agenda. Item 16, award of a
construction agreement, Oldtown
[20:07] Commercial Faucer,
[20:14] would you kindly introduce this item?
Thank you, Madame Mayor and members of
[20:18] the council. Through our community
development block grant program, uh it's
[20:22] a competitive process, as you know,
where applicants apply for monies uh
[20:26] available. And in this particular case,
uh these monies uh have been used uh to
[20:33] award funds uh to two applicants in
Oldtown basically to conduct facade
[20:38] improvements along two facilities. one
uh along D Street at 17053D D Street,
[20:45] the other at 15593
uh 7th Street. U and in this particular
[20:51] case, these funds will be used to to
help uh make improvements to the
[20:54] exterior of buildings, really to help
try to to to improve the aesthetic
[20:59] feature of some of those buildings in
Oldtown. It's a part of our uh larger
[21:03] goal of of trying to uh clean up the
Oldtown area. And so with that, this
[21:09] item has been authored by your deputy
city manager, Mr. Tony Kamargo, and he's
[21:14] available for any questions or comments
you might have.
[21:16] » Thank you, sir. Madame Clerk, would you
please read the recommendation?
[21:19] » That the honorable city council award a
construction agreement to Global
[21:22] Builders, Inc. for commercial facade
improvements at 17053D Street and 155937
[21:29] Street in the amount of $185,522.
[21:33] authorize a 10% contingency for
unforeseen repair expenses and authorize
[21:38] the city manager or his designate to
execute the construction agreement and
[21:41] any related change orders by and between
the city of Victorville and Global
[21:45] Builders, Inc.
>> Thank you, ma'am. At this time, we'll do
[21:48] technical questions from council
members. Mayor Pam Haramman,
[21:54] » I have none.
>> Council God,
[21:57] » I have none. Thank you, Madam Mayor.
>> Councilwoman Mora,
[22:00] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Councilwoman Irving,
[22:02] » I have none. Thank you, Madame Mayor.
>> We don't have none. I'll invite a motion
[22:05] for this item.
>> Madame Mayor, move to adopt staff's
[22:08] recommendations.
>> Second.
[22:10] » We have a first by Councilwoman Irving,
a second by Councilwoman Godan. Comments
[22:14] on the pending motion, Councilwoman
Irving?
[22:16] » No comments.
>> Councilwoman God,
[22:19] » just that I'm excited to see this
progressing forward and uh I'm happy to
[22:24] be able to see the results soon. So,
this is this is good and I'm glad that
[22:27] this is finally getting um some motion
behind it. So, thank you.
[22:33] » Thank you, ma'am. Council Moira,
>> I have none. Thank you.
[22:36] » Mayor Tim Herman.
>> Yeah, I do. Um
[22:41] although I think this is great. I I I
still can't figure out, and I discussed
[22:48] this with our city manager, why nobody
is bidding on this work from our high
[22:54] desert. The money is not staying up
here. And I just I just I can't figure
[22:59] it out. I made some phone calls uh the
other day and you know I don't know why
[23:05] these the our local contractors are not
participating in work like this. There's
[23:10] there's a hundred of them out there. So
I'm just kind of disappointed in that.
[23:15] I'm glad it's getting done
and I'm excited for Oldtown and all. I
[23:20] just I I I'm struggling to find a way to
get uh try to get these guys in here to
[23:25] start doing some work so our our wages
and the money stays up here in our area.
[23:31] That's all I have.
>> Thank you, Madam Clerk, will you take
[23:35] the vote, please?
>> Council member God,
[23:37] » yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[23:38] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[23:40] » yes.
>> Mayor PM Haramman,
[23:42] » yes.
>> Mayor Bisera,
[23:43] » yes.
>> Motion passes unanimously.
[23:45] » We've now taken action to approve
staff's recommendation as presented on
[23:48] the agenda. Item 17, the purchase of a
skid steer caterpillar PC306 coal
[23:55] cleaner with a water tank attachment.
Mr. Metro, can you kindly introduce this
[23:59] item?
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the
[24:01] council. This item involves uh the
purchase of equipment uh for the
[24:06] airport. And as you know, out at the
airport, the Southern California
[24:09] Logistics Airport, uh we do operate and
maintain a large facility with a vast
[24:14] amount of asphalt and concrete. Uh in
many cases that asphalt and concrete
[24:19] especially when we're doing uh repair
work um currently requires a physical uh
[24:25] jackhammering of uh concrete or asphalt
uh to perform repairs of those surfaces.
[24:31] This type of equipment will actually
help make that process a little bit
[24:36] easier uh by actually um uh milling uh
asphalt and/or concrete um which can
[24:42] help um uh us repair a lot of the
servants surfaces out there at the uh
[24:48] airfield facility. It's also a piece of
equipment that I expect uh or envision
[24:53] being loaned to public works when
they're in need of doing sidewalk uh
[24:57] work uh throughout the city as well. So,
I think it'll get multi-purposes,
[25:01] but this item has been brought forward
by your airport director, Mr. James
[25:04] Morski. He's not here tonight. Uh, so I
can certainly answer any questions uh
[25:08] that you might have.
>> Madam clerk, would you please read the
[25:12] recommendation?
>> That the Southern California Logistics
[25:15] Airport Authority Board of Directors
approve the purchase of a Caterpillar
[25:18] PC306 cold planer with water tank.
>> Thank you, ma'am. At this time, we'll do
[25:24] technical questions from council
members. Council member Mora,
[25:28] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Councilman God,
[25:30] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Counciloman Irving,
[25:32] » no questions. Thank you.
>> Member Cham Harman,
[25:34] » I have none.
>> I have a question. Mr. Man,
[25:41] » you know why Mr. Morowski didn't come in
today? Right.
[25:44] » Right. Putting the pressure on me.
>> Um,
[25:48] is when you say it's going to be loaned
down, is public works, and they're going
[25:52] to get mad at me. I'm glad they're not
there. Are they going to help pay for
[25:55] any of it? No, no. This is going to be
funded entirely by the uh by the
[25:59] airport. So, it'll be principally to
serve the airport, but certainly if it's
[26:02] not being used every day uh and there's
a project that could be uh it could be
[26:06] useful for certainly uh uh the airport
uh will be looked upon to share that
[26:10] with either public works or even water
if that might be the case.
[26:13] » Thank you, sir. You let me know when it
comes in, will you?
[26:18] » I'll invite a motion for this item.
>> Madame Mayor, move that we adopt staff
[26:22] recommendation.
>> Second. We have a first by Councilwoman
[26:25] Irving, a second by Mayor Tim Haramman.
Council member Irving, comments on the
[26:29] pending motion?
>> No comments.
[26:31] » Mayor Tim Herman,
>> I have none.
[26:33] » Council God,
>> I have none.
[26:35] » Council member Moira,
>> I have none. Thank you.
[26:37] » And I have none. Mr. Master, I'll leave
you alone.
[26:40] » Madam clerk, will you take
>> Council Member Godan?
[26:43] » Yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[26:44] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[26:46] » yes.
>> Mayor Prom Haramman,
[26:47] » yes.
>> Mayor Bera,
[26:49] » yes.
>> Motion passes unanimously. We've now
[26:51] taken action to approve staff's
recommendation as presented on the
[26:54] agenda. Item 18, rejection of proposal
civic civil engineering services for the
[27:01] new park restrooms various parks project
CC26-046.
[27:07] Mr. Mensler, would you kindly introduce
this item?
[27:09] » Thank you, Madame Mayor and members of
the council. We did uh go uh through a
[27:14] solicitation process inviting civil
engineering firms to to bid on a scope
[27:20] of work uh focused on uh the civil work
surrounding uh the ultimate installation
[27:27] of modular bathrooms uh pre-engineered
uh restroom facilities I'm sorry at
[27:32] multiple park locations Eagle Ranch
Schmidt Park uh and Green Tree Golf
[27:36] Course uh at Green Tree Golf Course it'
be two locations um uh out in the the
[27:41] golf course area holes uh five and 14.
Uh but that notwithstanding the bids
[27:47] came in at a price that was something
much more than we envisioned. Uh and so
[27:54] certainly we are recommending because
there isn't sufficient budget to handle
[27:58] this uh go through a formal rejection of
the bids. we'll go ahead and go back to
[28:04] uh redrawing the scope to make sure it's
much more clear uh and then determining
[28:08] the the next best uh step forward. Uh
and so with that, this item has been
[28:13] authored by your community services
director, Miss Donna Mester, and she's
[28:17] here and available for any questions or
comments you might have.
[28:21] » Thank you, Madam Clerk. Would you please
read the recommendation? that the
[28:24] honorable city council reject all
proposals received for civil engineering
[28:28] services for new park restrooms various
parks project CC26-046
[28:33] and authorize staff to re-evaluate the
project scope and procurement approach
[28:38] prior to issuing a new solicitation for
civil engineering services.
[28:42] » Thank you ma'am. At this time we'll do
technical questions from council
[28:45] members. Councilwoman Mora
>> I have none. Thank you.
[28:49] » Counciloman God
>> already had my questions answered. Thank
[28:52] you. Councilwoman Irving,
>> I don't have questions. Thank you.
[28:54] » Mer Herman,
>> are both those contractors out of the
[28:58] area?
[29:02] » Let me check. Didn't look that close.
[29:08] » They are.
>> Okay. All right. Uh, yes, they are.
[29:12] Sorry.
>> Okay. I'll save the rest for comments.
[29:19] » I'll invite a motion for this item.
Move to adopt staff recommendation as to
[29:24] points one and two is presented on the
agenda.
[29:26] » Second.
>> I have a first by council Godan, a
[29:29] second by counciloman Irving. Councilman
Godan, comments on the penny motion?
[29:33] » I have none.
>> Councilman Irving?
[29:35] » No comments.
>> Councilwoman Mora?
[29:37] » No comments. Thank you.
>> And now Mayor Pam here.
[29:40] » Okay. So, uh again,
uh and I I'm going to speak from as a
[29:46] retired contractor. uh work is bid
geographically and I guarantee you and
[29:53] I'm sure our engineer and others will
tell you when companies come from down
[29:59] in the valley they're too they're not in
line with what things go for around
[30:03] here. Maybe sometimes they are, but the
these these prices are just outrageous.
[30:09] And we got to figure out a way to get
our local contractors to start getting
[30:14] active in bidding the work for our city.
That's all I have.
[30:21] » Okay. Mayor Tim Herman, don't take this
wrong, but Mr. Medler, how many meetings
[30:26] have we had with the contractors to try
to teach them how to bid on our jobs?
[30:32] Two or three that I can remember.
>> Yeah, I don't know the exact number, but
[30:35] we have gone through that process to
>> So, we basically hold their hand through
[30:40] the process short of us hiring their
employees. We walk them through and show
[30:45] them how to fill out the bids, how to
get the insurance, how to pay for work
[30:49] when comp, everything. Correct.
>> Yeah. We've had those uh environments
[30:54] where we're educating people on the
process. Ultimately, once they submit
[30:57] the bid, you know, then there's no more
handholding. Uh you know, goes through
[31:01] the the selection process from there. Uh
but yeah, we've we've done a lot to try
[31:05] to help the the community be aware uh
not only of the projects, but the
[31:10] process.
>> Okay. Um, hold on. Our our engineering,
[31:16] our public works department, our
community service, HR, top-notch. We
[31:21] know what we're doing. We know how to
get the bids out there. If our local
[31:25] contractors cannot come to the table,
we are doing everything we can to try to
[31:30] bring them to the table.
I'm stick up for you guys.
[31:34] » Can I Can I go ahead?
>> I wasn't talking down on our staff. I I
[31:40] agree. We've done a lot of things.
That's why I I said it we need to figure
[31:44] out a way because it it just uh uh we've
done everything and I agree and I wish
[31:52] we had maybe staff uh that could do the
same save us a lot of money. But
[32:00] anyways, yeah, that's all I have. I'm
not talking bad about our staff. I've
[32:04] just and I'm not saying we haven't
helped and held people's hands. I just I
[32:09] just I I have a hard time understanding
why nobody wants to do work for us.
[32:15] That's all I have.
>> Madam Clerk, will you take the vote,
[32:18] please?
>> Council member Godam,
[32:20] » yes.
>> Council member Irving,
[32:22] » yes.
>> Council member Mora,
[32:23] » yes.
>> Mayor Prom Haramman,
[32:25] » yes.
>> Mayor Bisera,
[32:26] » yes.
>> Motion passes unanimously.
[32:28] » We've now taken action to approve
staff's recommendation as presented on
[32:31] the agenda. Item 19, Senate bills 1061,
1062, and 1063,
[32:39] AO AOA B. Mr. Mencer, would you kindly
introduce this item?
[32:44] » Thank you, Madame Mayor, and members of
the council. This item was brought to
[32:48] our attention uh through the attendance
of our Mountain Desert Division uh of
[32:53] the California League of Cities. And
this was brought forward as we were
[32:57] requested to consider taking a letter of
support uh for these bills. These bills
[33:03] uh Senate bills 1061 2 and three are all
related to the Western Joshua Tree
[33:09] Conservation Act which uh went into uh
effect I believe uh starting January 1st
[33:16] of 2023.
Um, in in its simplest form, the the the
[33:21] act uh actually uh provides additional
protections to the western Joshua Tree,
[33:27] which is the the species of tree uh
found here in the Victorville area. Uh
[33:33] and altogether it serves as a protection
to that tree. Uh and it actually does
[33:39] create impediments to further
development including uh the
[33:43] construction of affordable housing. That
notwithstanding uh this bill was put in
[33:47] place u to uh ease some of the burdens.
Uh certainly one area is establishing a
[33:54] targeted exemption for the relocation
within same parcel or contiguous
[33:58] parcels. Uh also there's a recognition
that uh for the construction of uh life
[34:05] sa life self life sustaining services
roadways utilities things of that nature
[34:09] uh to have the the Joshua tree impeding
upon those abilities for us to provide
[34:14] our essential services doesn't sound
right. And so those are some of the um
[34:18] things that these bills do in terms of
uh just offering some relief uh to uh
[34:24] the the original act. And so with that,
um, this item is brought forward, uh,
[34:30] for your consideration. I did author the
I did author the staff report. There is
[34:35] no fiscal impact. Uh, with your
approval, we'll, uh, proceed in
[34:39] submitting letters of support to, uh,
legislators on these bills. That's all I
[34:44] have, Madame Mayor.
>> Thank you very much. Madam clerk, will
[34:47] you please read the recommendation? that
your honorable city council support
[34:51] Senate bills 1061, 1062, and 1063 and
authorize the mayor to sign a letter of
[34:57] support.
>> Thank you. At this time, we'll do
[35:00] technical questions from council
members. Council God,
[35:03] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Counciloman,
[35:05] » I don't have any questions. Thank you.
>> Councilwoman Mora,
[35:07] » I have none. Thank you.
>> Mayor Pam Herman,
[35:10] » I have none.
>> And I have none. I'll invite a motion
[35:12] for this item.
Move to adopt staff recommendation to
[35:16] draft the to send these letters out to
support the bills.
[35:20] » Second second.
>> I have a first by Councilman Goan, a
[35:24] second by Mayor Tim Herman. Comments on
the pending motion. Councilman Goan.
[35:29] » I have none.
>> Mayor Tim Herman.
[35:31] » Yeah. Um
small small step, but uh we're getting
[35:36] we're we're moving in the right
direction.
[35:40] » Counciloman Irving.
>> I don't have any comments. Thank you.
[35:43] Council member Mora,
>> I have none. Thank you.
[35:46] » And I have none. Madame clerk, will you
please take the vote?
[35:48] » Council member Godan,
>> yes.
[35:50] » Council member Irving,
>> yes.
[35:51] » Council member Mora,
>> yes.
[35:53] » Mayor Prom Haramman,
>> yes.
[35:55] » Mayor Bera,
>> yes.
[35:56] » Motion passes unanimously.
>> We've now taken action to approve
[35:59] staff's recommendation as presented on
the agenda. Item 20, discussion and
[36:04] possible action to consider an
adjustment to the city council
[36:08] compensation. Mr. Meer, would you kindly
introduce this item?
[36:11] Thank you, Madame Mayor and members of
the council. This item is brought
[36:15] forward uh pursuant to an action taken
by the city council back in November of
[36:20] 2024 where then uh the council um asked
for an item to be automatically placed
[36:26] on ag on an agenda in every even year um
so that the council can consider uh
[36:33] whether or not it wants to um alter
increase uh its salary. And as you know,
[36:40] uh, the salary offered, uh, to council
members is prescribed in municipal code.
[36:45] Uh, and it specifies a certain specific
dollar amount and also includes
[36:49] provisions, uh, as to the ability to
increase it. Um and the increase allowed
[36:55] for pursuant to the code uh if you so
choose to increase it is um a measure of
[37:02] either 5% um uh or CPI whichever is is
greater is the basic measure and so um
[37:11] the council this item's brought forward
for the council to consider whether or
[37:15] not it wants to make an increase to u
its salary within those parameters. Uh
[37:20] and it's also important to note that
notwithstanding
[37:24] um any action by the council tonight to
change its salary, the effectiveness of
[37:29] that uh change in salary would not take
place until uh after the um general
[37:35] election uh in November. And so with
that, uh the author is uh authored by
[37:40] your city clerk. Uh but both she and I
can answer any questions or comments you
[37:44] might have.
>> Thank you. Madam clerk, would you please
[37:46] read the recommendation?
Any action is at the discretion of your
[37:51] honorable city council.
>> Thank you. At this time, we'll do
[37:54] technical questions from council
members. Counciloman Goa,
[37:58] » I have none. Thank you. Councilwoman
Irving,
[38:01] » I only want one uh one point for
clarification. The last time we
[38:05] considered this item, we got a 5%
increase. Is that correct?
[38:14] » I believe it was a 5% increase over a
number of years.
[38:20] because the council hadn't uh raised its
salary for uh quite some time. So when
[38:27] it did it last, it was playing catchup.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[38:32] » Councilman Moa,
>> I have none. Thank you.
[38:35] » Member Herman,
>> I have none.
[38:37] » And I have none.
>> I'll invite a motion for this item.
[38:44] Since there is no motion, motion dies.
Correct. Uh,
[38:49] city clerk. Yes, madam.
>> The item dies for lack of a motion.
[38:52] » Okay.
[38:56] Item 21, city manager reports. Mr.
Metsler.
[39:00] » Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of
the council. Uh, a few items to report
[39:03] on the animal services side. Uh, the
animal services uh, division will be at
[39:07] the High Desert Farmers Market at BBC
this Thursday, April 23rd, from 8 a.m.
[39:11] to 12 pm. an opportunity to stop by,
meet some of our adorable pets available
[39:16] for adoption. Uh, also join us this
Saturday, April 25th, uh, from 10 am to
[39:21] 2 pm at the Animal Care and Adoption
Center for our national adopt a shelter
[39:25] pet uh, day event. Uh, we'll be
featuring a live radio broadcast from Y
[39:29] 102. Um, and all adoptions are free and
include vaccinations and microchipping.
[39:35] On the community services side, uh, this
is, uh, National Library Week. Uh the
[39:40] library is celebrating with fun
activities throughout the week,
[39:43] including a scavenger hunt and uh art
projects. Uh then to wrap up the week,
[39:47] join us for a community celebration this
Saturday, April 25th, from uh noon to 2
[39:52] p.m. uh featuring refreshments, a movie,
and a number of giveaways. Uh on the
[39:57] environmental program side, uh we do
have Shredfest and a composting giveaway
[40:02] uh on Saturday, May 2nd from 8:00 a.m.
to 12:00 p.m. And that's at the MURF uh
[40:06] here in Victorville. Residents can bring
up to four 20 pound boxes of bags of
[40:11] paper documents uh to be shredded for
free. Uh and we'll also be giving away
[40:15] up to 50 gallons of free composting per
household. And so with that, I also will
[40:21] forward you the email that has all the
projects uh of interest that are going
[40:25] through our development process.
uh on that document, you'll be able to
[40:29] see where uh all the commercial and
residential projects that have been
[40:33] submitted, where they're at in the
process, and what you can expect to see
[40:36] uh in terms of breaking ground in the
near future. Uh that's all I have at
[40:39] this time, Madame Mayor.
>> Thank you, sir. At this time, we'll move
[40:43] on to item 22, discussion and possible
action regarding upcoming agenda items.
[40:48] Councilman Godan,
>> I have none.
[40:51] » Councilwoman Mora,
>> I have none.
[40:53] » Councilwoman Irving,
>> I don't have anything. Thank you. Mayor
[40:56] Tim Herman.
>> I have none.
[40:58] » And I have none. We will move on to item
23, reports from council members.
[41:02] Council members, if you guys want to say
thank you or something came up or
[41:07] whatever you want to say, go ahead. At
this time, you know, we'll be allowed.
[41:11] Uh, madame clerk, is it a three minute
or a five minute?
[41:16] » Three minutes.
>> Three minutes. Okay. Um, we'll start off
[41:19] with Councilwoman Mora. I just want to
say congratulations to our survey tech
[41:24] on passing the National Council of Exams
for Engineering and Surveying Mr.
[41:28] Bradley East. So, and also a big thank
you to all of our city staff. Um,
[41:32] everyone does amazing job and our public
safety um public comments really there
[41:37] are lots of incidents, but I know our
first responders are always out there
[41:41] dedicated. So, I'm always thankful and
grateful for them. And um that's all.
[41:45] Thank you.
>> Thank you, ma'am. Council Mcota. Thank
[41:48] you, Madame Mayor. I just wanted to
thank uh Mr. Bonia and his team for an
[41:53] amazing engineering report. Um I
definitely enjoyed the traffic edition
[41:58] section um with all the information. So
thank you. I enjoyed reading through
[42:02] your report. Lots of good things. Um and
then I also just wanted to thank Mr.
[42:06] Duran for his uh engineering or his code
compliance uh pardon me, your code
[42:11] compliance report. You and your team,
good job. Um, I was happy to read all of
[42:16] the just improvements and the numbers
especially that we've added the parking.
[42:20] Um, and so I think that's great and uh I
appreciate both of you and your teams
[42:25] for just such amazing reports. They're
very easy to read, very thorough. So
[42:29] well done and thank you. That's all.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Councilwoman
[42:33] Irving,
>> I just want to Well, I want to echo what
[42:38] my colleague has said. I'm very very
pleased with the direction of the city
[42:43] and I too would like to commend code
enforcement for their hard work and the
[42:48] department of engineering for their hard
work and I do appreciate their reports
[42:52] as well. Thank you.
>> Mayor Tim Herman.
[42:55] » Yes. Um
I love my city. I really do. I think
[43:01] this city I love when I'm out of town
and I'm going to do it again the next
[43:05] three days in Sacramento. I love
bragging about how good this city is and
[43:10] how we're we're leading I at least in my
opinion I I believe we're not only
[43:15] leading the high desert but you know we
have cities that come up here just to
[43:19] look at the things we do and I want to
thank Freddy and uh code enforcement
[43:25] George I I just can't say enough on
how things have changed and since I was
[43:32] on the planning commission it it kind of
took off from
[43:36] uh with uh putting the uh uh wellness
center together and I just I I probably
[43:43] I I can't begin to tell you how much
nicer
[43:47] uh and cleaned up at least where I live
is and I live in like the the biggest
[43:53] retail area in the city. Uh, I want to
thank Doug public works. Uh, Alex uh uh
[44:01] planning and Bobby for the the the uh
fire department and Joe for building and
[44:08] Heather for HR and
forgot your name,
[44:15] but but I I I I I mean it, you guys. I I
love this city. I'm gonna go to I'm
[44:21] gonna go to bat for us no matter what it
is. And I want to thank uh all the
[44:25] deputy city managers who have been a
world of knowledge for me and when I
[44:29] have questions and our lieutenant uh our
our police department is really going
[44:35] through a challenge right now. I in the
last
[44:40] last two months have been hell. There's
been some real
[44:44] strange stuff going on and the the
police department has had handled it
[44:49] very professionally. I'm proud of that.
Uh there was a fire at a house in my
[44:53] neighborhood and our fire department was
there to get it all under control. I
[44:57] just love how everything is happening in
my city and I just want to say thank you
[45:03] to everybody. I know that wasn't real,
but I mean it. That's it.
[45:12] » Thank you. Um Engineering and Code, I
also read your reports. Joe, I read your
[45:18] reports. Yes, buddy. Thank you. Very
informative. For those of you who did
[45:22] read the reports, Bear Valley Road is
going to get restriped at Bear Valley
[45:26] and Armagosa.
Now we can make it to Double Hand Turn
[45:31] Lane. That's going to be fun. Thank you,
sir. I agree. I appreciate everything
[45:35] you guys do over there, Juan. You and
your guys, you know that Doug, thank
[45:41] you. Um,
Sue, Route 66 fair information has gone
[45:49] out. Um, people have been writing back
and everything. It's going to be
[45:53] exciting. So, the Route 66 fair that's
going to be downtown. It's on the
[45:58] website. Any questions, go through our
PIO office. Yes, ma'am. Thank you very
[46:02] much. Also, the tour of Victorville 101
is also coming up. So, get on that.
[46:07] That's the one that everybody needs to
go to. So now I would like council to
[46:12] know that I was busy this morning. I
decided to go to the Sanino County Board
[46:17] of Supervisors meeting and speak at
their meeting this morning. So, if you
[46:21] guys hear about it, um, I spoke with
being upset, not being upset, concerned
[46:28] with our landfill being closed because
outside trash is being brought in from
[46:35] other counties and there isn't a concern
of our trash having to sit in trucks on
[46:42] the side of the road because they
couldn't dump. So, that's what I let
[46:46] them know. Um, I behaved. I They used
English your guys. So good to go. Um if
[46:55] there is anything else, Mr. Medler,
>> not you again.
[47:00] » I forgot it.
[47:05] He had such a disappointed look on his
face. How could I forget?
[47:10] Every time my password needs to be
redone.
[47:14] » And you forgot the city clerk's
department who makes your travel
[47:17] arrangements.
and our city going on air. I I I told
[47:20] you I wouldn't remember everybody.
>> I'm sure the parks department is very
[47:24] upset. They just cut the grass today.
>> Thank you.
[47:27] » Thank you, Donna.
>> At this time,
[47:30] » at this time, if there is nothing
further, Andre, do you have anything?
[47:36] » Thank you, mayor. I have nothing.
>> Thank you, sir. Um, the time is 6:46 and
[47:40] this meeting's a journ.
[47:48] HR got you guys. Thank you.