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Okay, good evening, everyone. I'm going to call the meeting order. We're going to have a roll call by our city clerk Kathy Veldez.

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The records shall reflect that all members are present.

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If you all rise, we're going to do a pledge of allegiance. It'll be led by Deputy Mayor Green.

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Thank you. Put your hand over your heart, repeat after me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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Okay, in accordance with the Brown Act, I'd like to announce that as a result of

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convening simultaneous meetings, the members of the Buena Sanitation District,

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when we see a compensation of $147.75 for the district meeting, pursuant to Buena Sanitation

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District ordinance 2006-1. I'd like to remind everyone that the visible code requires members

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of the public to observe order and decorum at the meeting and to conduct themselves in a

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courteous manner. The ordinance was adopted to allow for a public input and to facilitate

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city business without disruption of the meeting. A clause is appropriate for items listed

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under the presentation portion of the agenda only. To speak on an item on the agenda please

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fill out a speaker slip with the number of the item you want to speak on and give it to the

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clerk secretary staff. Speaker slips are available just outside the council chambers and speakers

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This will have three minutes to address the city council.

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So the next thing is the approval of the agenda by our City Manager Patrick Johnson.

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It's about, thank you, Mayor.

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There was one item that was previously revised on the agenda and I just wanted to point

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it out in case anybody's in the audience.

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That is item D1, the preliminary review of the proposed annexation and zone change for 145

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Honoled Drive.

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This item was pulled from the agenda and if it is brought back before the city council, it will

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you re-noticed to the public. Thank you.

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Okay, the next thing on our agenda are our presentations and we have three of them tonight.

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And so I'm going to invite our tire council to come down and join me down below down here.

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Okay, our first presentation is the recognition of our 2021 Independence Day sponsors.

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The city of Issy would like to acknowledge our generous stars and stripes and the title sponsors

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for their contribution in making the 2021 Independence Day a success.

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Without your support, the City's Independence Day celebration would not have been the best

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firework display in San Diego County.

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On behalf of the City of Essa, thank you all for being such generous community partners.

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We applaud your commitment to our community and appreciate your generous support.

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So I'd like to offer a certificate of appreciation to each of our five and $10,000 sponsors.

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The first one's got Mary from BAD Development.

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Is he here?

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Come on down.

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You're right on time, right on time.

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You're right on time.

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You're right on time.

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You're right on time.

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You're right on time.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm taking this really quick.

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Yeah.

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You're a picture here.

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Everybody smile.

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I'm smiling.

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But I have my mask on.

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I can't.

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I think you're someone else.

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There's Glenn Volk here from Dick Miller.

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Is Glenn here?

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He might not have made it quite on time.

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we'll see if he gets there in a little bit. Tom Lightner from Turn Around for Veterans is Tom here

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and I don't see Tom either. So anyway those were our sponsors so...

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Big thank you to all of our sponsors. Thank you.

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Our next presentation is a Proclamation Declare in September as the National Preparer Discount and Chief VanderPol, please come to the podium to accept this Proclamation.

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I was going to read it, but I'll let you read it.

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Why not? I think that would be appropriate.

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All right. Thank you.

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Whereas the federal emergency management agency FEMA has designated September as national preparedness

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month, and whereas California residents commonly experience the effects of various disasters,

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ranging from severe winter storms to major earthquakes, devastating wildfires and pandemics,

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resulting in damages costing hundreds of millions of dollars, and whereas in 2020,

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the state of California faced multiple hazards, including the loss of more than 64,000 lives

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to COVID-19 and a record-breaking 4.2 million acres burned in wildfires and highlighted the importance

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of disaster preparedness, both at the individual and the institutional levels.

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And whereas the aftermath of the 2014-2017 firestorms in northern San Diego County, as

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well as the ongoing 18-month activation of the city's emergency operations center, demonstrate

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the need for careful and thorough, local emergency planning preparedness among individuals,

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communities, and agencies.

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And whereas the loss of life and property damage can be greatly reduced if appropriate emergency preparedness measures are taken before during and after a major emergency.

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And whereas the residents of Vista are encouraged to register online with alert San Diego and download the SD emergency mobile app in order to receive notifications or emergency information related to evacuations and local disasters.

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I'm going to read the last part.

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The therefore.

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Yes, you're all there.

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There's four.

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So now, therefore, the mayor and members of the VISTA City Council

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would be here by proclaim the month of September 2021

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as national prepared this month.

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Be it further proclaimed that the mayor and members of the VISTA City Council

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urge all persons to learn what to do before during and after major emergencies

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to mitigate injuries, loss of life and property damage.

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So with that, we will, we thank you for coming.

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And do you have anything you want to say?

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Or are you just, no, you had it.

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Do you need to do a clot over it?

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Chief, one of you come to the middle here.

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Let's go.

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Thank you.

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Sorry, too.

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I'm going to.

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I'm going to check.

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So, the next thing on our presentations are, I'm not going to represent any letters

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of appreciation to members of, it's called Warriors in Action for a Clean

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I'm not going to attempt this banish pronunciation.

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It's called Warriors and Action for a clean VISTA.

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When I call your name, please come forward to receive your letter and stay at the front

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of the room so we can take a picture of the entire group.

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And I'm going to, I'll read the first letter, and then I'm going to,

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Council Member Contreras is going to hand you the letter.

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So let me read the first one.

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And I'll call up a team captain, Javita Seraphin.

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The team captain is Javita.

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Okay, I'm going to read this first and then I'll give it to you. Okay, come back here so they can see your face.

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Okay, this letter appreciation is dedicated to the generous community focus efforts of the

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Guerrero in actually own poor in this Olympia.

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Since August 2019, volunteer, oh no, I have to say it again.

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The volunteer lead guru has performed trash watch every Wednesday from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. that

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begin at Lusterian Park. guru clears trash from the vistas roads, sidewalks, parks, and open spaces,

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thereby reducing the waste and vistas storm drains and waterways. collecting litter is no

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small task, despite inclement weather and heat, guru's walk, two to three miles throughout the city,

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picking up trash with strollers and families and tow, guru's pick up at least 120 gallons

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of trash on their weekly walks.

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This is proud of its residents, volunteerism and interest in making this a safer and more

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beautiful.

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The community is better, the community is better for the world.

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The work of Guerrero in action for UN Vista-Zumpio. The Vista City Council offers a sincere, at gratitude to the members of Guerrero's

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for their service to the community. And I apologize for murdering that name. The one that is easier is the first one which was

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more years in action for a clean Vista. So we appreciate you and thank you for doing that every all the time, every week. So we appreciate you and your family.

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So we're going to, so this is for Javita, this one, and then we have a letter, the exact same letter for each of the members of the community.

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I'll call each of them up by my name.

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So the next one is Michelle Veloz.

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Tell us, remember, container says you're letter for you.

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Her land is seraphine.

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Brandon Sweras,

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Grayson Collins, is Grayson here, or Melissa Brindley Collins.

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Nope, that, okay, the columns aren't here.

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But we have the Vista Firefighter Association.

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Thank you.

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The T.C. Lopez Martinez.

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Stephanie Martinez Lopez.

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Sylvia Lopez Martinez.

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Samantha Martinez Lopez.

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Ashley Martinez Lopez.

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Abilia Dias,

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Sialmara Dias,

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Rosie Elvira Diaz,

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Santa Rose Riegas,

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Ashley Tetchy, Sebastian Diaz,

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Alexander Estudio Estudio Estudio Estudio, am I saying that right? Who knows?

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Marcel Bonilla?

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No, Stephanie Maser,

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Cecilia Maser, Isabella Naronho? No, a Brandon

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We're on, we're on our own.

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Eduardo, no one.

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N.A. Barrellas.

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Sebastian Bonilla.

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Alexander Bonilla.

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Thank you to all of you for all that you do every week.

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We appreciate that so much in VISTA.

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We have a problem with trash sometimes.

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It's so nice that you take care of so much of our community that go out every week and

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do that.

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So we appreciate all of you, all the kids and the families that do that together.

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So thank you so much.

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We appreciate that.

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I don't even have to come.

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But we need to be together as much as possible.

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You guys want to come in here so we can get a picture of all of us together here.

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Big kids can maybe tell if it's one of the best.

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I look, kids in the front.

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Do you want to come out there?

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So, can you see the kids from here?

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in the audience from turnaround for veterans who just came in so we could go back to P1 and honor Mr.

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Lightner.

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Okay, Mr. Lightner, do you want to come down?

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It's all.

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Tom?

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I'll read this.

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So this is a terrific appreciation presented to turn around for veterans.

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The mayor members of the Mississippi Council present this certificate of appreciation and recognition

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of turn around for veterans for being a title sponsor in your generous support of the city of

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is Fourth of July celebration, so please then August 24th, 2021.

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Thank you, sir.

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sir.

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Come around here, I'm going to take your picture.

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No, no, no.

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If you come around here, I'm going to take your picture.

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What's that hat?

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What's that hat, you see?

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Of course.

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That's perfect.

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We love it.

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And thank you for your service.

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So many years of service.

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We just just weeks started the program again after COVID.

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Oh, that's good to hear that.

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Good way to check it off.

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Okay, so everybody smile.

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Okay, thanks again.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much.

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Take care.

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Okay, that takes us to,

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but this I guess I'll put this all right here.

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That takes us to our consent calendar.

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While the recommendations on the following consent calendar

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will be enacted in one motion,

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unless an item is removed from the calendar.

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Any member of the public may remove an item by submitting

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in a request to speak card to the clerk secretary,

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items removed from the consent calendar

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will be considered immediately following

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adoption of a calendar.

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We have five consent items this evening,

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and so I have one to see one speaker last week.

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I wouldn't speak her here on item C5,

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so I would look for a council member, Franklin.

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I'd move the balance of the consent agenda.

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I'll second.

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Okay, I have a motion of second on the balance

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of the consent calendar, so please cash your votes.

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That motion passes unanimously.

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So that brings us to item C5, the memorandum of understanding with the City Employees Association,

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the Management and Confidential Employees Compensation Plan, and Citywide Classification and Compensation

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So with that, we will take our speaker first, I'm Clarence Rich.

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Good evening.

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on our Mayor, Deputy Mayor, Joe Green, Councilman, John Franklin, and Council member of

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Carolina Contrares and Katie Melindus, and to staff.

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I'm here speaking on item five that was pulled, and I just wanted to say thank you for

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the agreement, the contractual agreement for four years, and thank you all, and staff as

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well for your pardon as VCA president.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Thanks, Clarence. Okay. With that, Councilor Franklin. I would make a motion

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to adopt item C5 and thank you very much to the VCEA and employees in Mr. Rich for being with

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the site.

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I have a second for that.

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I'll second.

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I have a motion on a second, so please cast your votes.

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That motion passes unanimously.

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That brings us to our discussion items.

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We actually have four discussion items.

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Do we have four?

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Yeah, four.

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Okay, because we have the one.

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We have four discussion items this evening.

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As announced earlier, item D1 was removed from the agenda and we'll place

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down a future agenda.

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So that we're going to take it first is our discussion item D2, which is

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a small lot single family residential zoning, our community development director John Conley will

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provide the staff report.

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Thank you Mayor and council.

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We're here tonight to get some direction from the council on small lot single family zoning.

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As you all know there's been a number of recent housing developments that have been built in the city

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at higher densities.

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We consider single family at higher densities to be between five to ten units per acre.

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Some examples of these, these have been in a condominium arrangement on a common lot, but our detached single family homes.

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Some examples of these are listed here, the Sarah Project, which was built by Shea Holmes upon Eastfist Away, just behind Charles Restaurant,

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the Wildwood Development, which was built by Maritage Holmes on Buena Vista Drive, just East of Melrose,

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and the Arroy of Vista Project, which was also developed by Maritage on Sikmar at Watson Way.

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This type of detached condominium development is permitted in our RM zone that's our multi-residential zone and is frequently pursued to accommodate single family homes in the range of 5 to 10 units per acre.

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Staff's position on this is that we'd prefer to allow for fee simple lots or home ownership and so condominium units are not always preferred as in a detached arrangement for single family residential development.

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because, as noted here, it doesn't allow for traditional fee-simple lot or home ownership

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by the owner and creates issues with yard areas for the planning staff or for the owner

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when they want to do improvements where there's no lot lines, and there's uncertainty

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for setbacks and future improvements or expansions like ADUs.

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So staff is recommending that we evaluate the residential zoning within the range of 5 to 10

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units per acre.

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That's in the medium density designation in our general plan, which is shown graphically

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here. There are some additional areas that would apply in specific plans and in some higher

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density designations, but to give you an idea it's pretty well spread around the city.

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It includes the RM zone and the R1B zone and so we would be looking at both those

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zoning designations to make adjustments. Currently the minimum lot sizes and the RM and the R1B

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zones are between 6,000 and 9,000 square feet. This depends on the density designation on

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property. Those lot size limitations actually promote the development of detached condominiums.

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I'm sorry, promote the development of a touch product at the densities between 5 to 10 units per acre.

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Because a lot sizes aren't small enough to get that density that you would be able to achieve under the general plan.

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6,000 and 9,000 square foot lots would allow something like 5 to 6 units per acre, not anywhere near 10.

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So staff recommends considering smaller lot sizes within these zones, or adjusting a lot

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size standards to accommodate the detached single-family residential projects within a density

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range of five to ten units per acre.

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This is not intended to allow for further subdivision of 6,000 square foot lots, which

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is our current minimum lot size, but more to adjust the lot size standards so that a developer

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could build detached single-family residential homes with a subdivision arrangement and get

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to close to that ten units per acre.

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We've not developed the actual lot-sized standards yet because we want to get direction from the council to know that they're okay with that approach.

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If that's the case, then we'll come back with some specific recommendations and go through the public hearing process.

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As I mentioned, we're seeking direction from the council and following that, we'll come back to you.

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That pretty much sums up my staff report and I'm here for any questions. Thank you, Mayor.

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Okay, Deputy Mayor Green.

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We don't have any speakers on the side of them.

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No speakers.

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No speakers.

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Thank you so much for the presentation.

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Mr. Connie, greatly appreciate it.

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And I actually am in support of this.

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I like having this smaller zoning and classifying the missing of family residents.

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I think it's a, you know, a disservice to some of those property saying that their condos.

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And I think the community also feels like your slamming condos.

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And you're in truth is they are single family residences.

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Additionally, with it being a fee simple, a lot of it gives more home.

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The homeowner more opportunity to do things to their property.

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and it's easier for them to finance and to sell and all of that.

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So I think it's a great thing to do for our community,

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not necessarily for the developer, but as the homeowner who purchases that property,

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it's a huge benefit.

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So it's something that I'm definitely in favor of.

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I'd like to see what the, you know, lot sizes are that you come up with.

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And see what type of impact that would have on our, you know, reading numbers or whatever, you know, housing stock. That is.

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But I think that it's a great idea. And I think that that's more what we're actually building. So to call it what it is, in my opinion, is a great idea. So I appreciate you bringing this forward. And I would recommend that we go with your recommendations. So thank you so much.

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Tell some of them a contraris.

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I too want to thank you for bringing this forward. Was that a motion?

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No, it's just...

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Okay, so one of the things that I do want to illuminate though just for the public is a discussion that I had about this yesterday with Mr. Connelly.

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So I'm just going to walk through a few scenarios.

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But I am 100% in favor of being able to expand home ownership and, you know, some of these areas are still going to be H.O.A.

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But I do want you to walk us through what junior ADU or ADU situation is.

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If we were to go with this recommendation, are there any changes? What does that look like?

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That's an excellent question, so the ADUs standard still apply, I mean state law allows for an ADU in a single family zone or in a multi-family zone.

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So these homeowners could build an ADU in most situations on smaller lots like this.

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You have homeowners association, you have CCNRs that you have to abide by, and that largely controls what form and shape the ADU takes.

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The state law says you can't restrict ADU, so most of the time on the smaller lots when there's not a large yard area.

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The ADU will go inside the house, a junior ADU as it's referred to can be 500 square feet within the existing living space.

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Or it can be a conversion of the garage, which most of the associations allow for, so there's still an opportunity for that.

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But the lots are typically too small to fit a detached ADU in.

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If they can meet the setbacks and abide with the state requirements, then of course they're allowed to do that.

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It's just that at these lot sizes, you don't always see that opportunity.

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And I have a follow-up question pertaining to, you know, we have a few of these developments here.

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Is there an opportunity for any developments that exist to fall into this in a retroactive way or is it just moving forward?

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It's possible but not likely just because you'd have to get all of those existing

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condominium owners into a subdivision arrangement, apply a map, have them purchase the land.

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So it's not likely.

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It's most likely going to be something we use as a tool moving forward.

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Okay, thank you.

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I appreciate it.

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Plus remember Melinda's.

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Thank you so much for the discussion and I want to just say that this I think is appropriate based on some of the projects that we've had.

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that have come forward and have, in the past, potentially, been able to use this zoning.

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So to just contextualize this for the community, and we don't currently have a zoning for single family homes

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at this size, at the 6,000 square foot lots, correct?

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Nothing below 6,000, that's correct.

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Okay, and then how small would we go in a lot size?

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right so if we're we are adding this additional form of zoning is it something in the future

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that would we would even reduce a lot size further.

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It's possible to further reduce a lot size but that of course would be at the city council's

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discretion.

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The staff recommendation at this point would be something above 3,000 square feet so that

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we're not getting into a situation where a lot of the existing lot owners in visit could

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further subdivide their property.

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Okay sounds good and I wanted to also know like looking at the surrounding

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cities and developing and flux with them. What are some of the similarities of this kind of

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lot size and other cities?

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So most of the surrounding cities allow for a smaller lot size and 6,000 square feet.

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The majority of them do it under a specific plan or a specific planning area because

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it's a newer development compared to older parts of the city where more traditional zoning occurs.

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If we have that same arrangement in VISTAs,

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shout a ridge allows for smaller lot sizes

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under the specific plan,

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then our traditional zoning would allow.

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But in general, most cities within the last five to 10 years

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have a dopant allowance for smaller lot sizes

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because of this exact situation.

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They don't want to be, if they're in that range

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of five to 10 units per acre in a developer,

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wants to build detached single family homes.

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They don't want to be in a situation

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where they're forcing them to build something different.

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And that's what this really allows for.

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Okay, so I think it's great. I think that's good to prioritize the home ownership aspect of it and

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Also it could potentially be good for in-field development as well. So I

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Thank you so much for bringing this forward and those are all my comments. I would agree. I I

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Court that I think when people are looking at houses, it gets confusing when it's called a condo, when people in their mind have a condo, a different vision of a condo, and it's actually a single family home.

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So I think that better if it's owned like a single family home, and the smaller lives, okay, it's not a lot smaller, it's just called a condo because that was the way we did it in the past.

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So I support this. Deputy Mayor Green.

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Yeah, so one more question something you said that kind of stirred my little brain up is that

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With a lot size being reduced

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This isn't gonna allow any of our existing lots to be split easier and the reason why I ask that is

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There's a lot of concern about the rural aspect of vista and you know like my house is on just a little over-quarter acre right now

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I can't split that into two lots and put another house if we pass something like this

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Would this affect the ability to split parcels in the city and if it does is

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there a way to do different overlays in different areas.

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I know it's really technical, but in order to make sure

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that we're not affecting the character of our city.

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Because if I say, you can build a house on a 3,000 square

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foot lot, I can fit 10 houses where my house is at.

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I should bulldoze.

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You know, not anybody in the foothills or whatever to think.

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That's OK.

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So let me know, please.

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We're only looking at specific zones.

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It's the RM zone and the R1B zone.

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those are largely multifamily or denser zones.

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The smallest lot size allowed right now in those zones is 6,000.

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We wouldn't be recommending anything lower than 3,000 or probably 3,500.

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So that those existing smallest lot homeowners couldn't further subdivide their land.

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But someone who has an acre in the R1B zone could potentially subdivide with smaller lots.

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Okay, but not in R1 zone.

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are one E1, A1, we wouldn't be touching any of the existing larger single family

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lot, so.

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So a lot of that has to do in the district foreign district one, right?

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They have a lot more R1B than other different areas.

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R1B is pretty well spread around the city, but there's a good amount of it in the

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northern portion of it, and the older parts of the city, correct?

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All right, that's good.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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I'm a little conflicted, and maybe it's just, because I've got a question here, but, you know,

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I, my first home that I owned in Vista was a condo, actually sold that home, because I did

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not like some of the landscaping decisions that were made by the management, I did not own

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my front yard, and that didn't care for that, and I decided to buy a house where I did

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my front yard, so I totally understand the concern of homeowners who want to have control of

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their destiny of the land that surrounds our home. I'm not sure I am fully on board with the

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idea that they don't have ownership. I had ownership of my unit. I made a great return in it.

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And me, it was the functioning of the same as owning the hell my own now, except I had

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a higher HOA fee.

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The thing that I'm concerned about, though, is as we build denser communities, this condo

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map allows a greater level of central management over the look and maintenance of the community.

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And my concern is that we're going to lose some of that in these very dense communities

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where how neighbors maintain their property, how common spaces are maintained, and the improvements

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that are made are what closer you are to your neighbor, the more these things matter to you,

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about what your neighbor is doing, and so, you know, I've seen developments, you probably

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can guess the one I'm thinking of, in particular, with smaller lots, where the neighbors

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aren't getting along, and it's become a real problem for the city.

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And I guess I just wonder what your opinion is about the potential for long-term maintenance,

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and, you know, of the community at large, in these really compact neighborhoods.

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So there's two real ways that we intend to control that.

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One is right now, subdivisions and VISTA don't require a site development plan, which is landscape on architecture,

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and that's the way the city manages the look of the project.

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So you can subdivide in the R1, E1, A1 zone, and just do a subdivision and build your house with a building permit.

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When we adopt the new rules, we'll have a site development plan requirement attached to that,

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so that they'll have to show us architecture landscaping.

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All of those requirements will be approved and we'll be able to manage it from

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code side. The other thing is majority of these developments now particularly if it's more than just a couple

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lots are going to have stormwater requirements that are common to the development. They'll have to have an

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association and maintain those most likely when you establish an association it comes with all those other

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requirements.

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City has the ability to impose those aesthetic requirements. We haven't really done that to a large extent, but we have the ability to do that through the site development plan process if we want to.

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Is there a way to actually mandate nature way?

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Yes. We do it all the time.

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Okay. To me, that's one thing that's incredibly important. We saw in this development that I'm not going to reference, but you know what I'm talking about.

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an HOA was created by the developer, the residents decided not to continue the HOA, and now they lack a dispute resolution mechanism other than coming to the city, and it's created real problems for us.

463
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:52,900
And I particularly believe when you don't have set back from your neighbors, you need that dispute resolution mechanism other than the city to solve problems and make decisions about how you're going to live very very close proximity.

464
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:59,080
So, I think if that's not something that we're currently considering, I think with these really small

465
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,900
sizes, I think that's incredibly important.

466
00:36:00,980 --> 00:36:06,420
I think we should consider the imposition of an HOA so that they do have that dispute resolution

467
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:07,060
mechanism.

468
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Understood.

469
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:12,020
Okay, I see no of the further speakers.

470
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,100
Do you have enough information?

471
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:14,100
Thank you.

472
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:14,540
Thank you, Mayor.

473
00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:15,600
Looks like there's consensus.

474
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,700
So, we'll bring back some changes in a couple months.

475
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,300
Okay.

476
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,240
Thank you.

477
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:20,180
Thank you.

478
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:21,120
Okay.

479
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,900
The next thing on our agenda, our third discussion item, is Gregad and the official name

480
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:32,680
of the park references Pelavista Park, which is kind of funny when you say, you know,

481
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:41,040
name the park, name, name Pelavista Park, it's Pelavista Park, anyway, okay, so this is the city manager

482
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,140
immediately is going to provide our staff report.

483
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:54,990
Good evening, mayor and city council members, I thank you for having me.

484
00:36:54,990 --> 00:37:01,190
The Polyvestis Civic Center capital park program is currently underway, as I'm sure you've seen driving down Civic Center.

485
00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:07,050
There is an expectation that the project should be completed by fall of 2022, so that will be excited.

486
00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:12,030
The park has been referenced as the Polyvesti Park due to its geographic location.

487
00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:19,550
However, throughout the design process, there was several discussions concerning the park name and whether it should remain Polyvesti Park.

488
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:26,070
There is a city does have a policy that establishes criteria for creating an official park

489
00:37:26,070 --> 00:37:26,490
name.

490
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:31,370
The policy states that names can be of, let me, I do have a powerpoint, I guess I could go

491
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:32,350
through it.

492
00:37:33,110 --> 00:37:34,250
Sorry, one moment, please.

493
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,180
Thank you.

494
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,780
The policy states that names can be of an individual who contributed significantly to the

495
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:48,600
quality of life for victims, over a substantial period of time, an individual organization

496
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:54,360
that donated to city parks or recreation facilities at geographical locations such as

497
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:00,160
Polyvista or a link to the city's heritage with an emphasis on names that provide connection

498
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:07,120
to the city's Spanish or heritage. If the city council elects to select an alternative name

499
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,640
to the Polyvista park, staff recommends conducting public outreach to ensure that the name reflects

500
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,980
the needs and desires of the community. There are various community outreach involvement strategies

501
00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:23,020
that may inform the decision-making process, and staff has outlined two options for you to

502
00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:27,820
consider. As you can see on the screen in front of you, option 1 is to consult the public

503
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:33,020
on various names. Over the last few years, staff has received recommendations for an official

504
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:39,880
name, including Paula Vista Park, utilizing the list which is detailed on the screen. Staff would

505
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,740
create a community survey to solicit feedback from the community. The results would then be

506
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:49,280
with the Parks and Recreation Commission to select a final name for City Council recommendation.

507
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:51,340
And that's an option.

508
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:55,760
There's also option 2, which is outlight in the front of you.

509
00:38:56,060 --> 00:38:58,920
This is to solicit name recommendations from the public.

510
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,620
Staff would reach out to the community to state name suggestions.

511
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:07,160
The Parks and Recreation Commission would narrow down the names to 5,

512
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,160
and then those names would be voted upon by the public with the final results being provided for City Council for consideration.

513
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,360
This approach would take a little bit more outreach.

514
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:20,620
You would have to do with more social media and connection with the community.

515
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:28,640
And with any outreach, there's also, we'd really recommend that we use a form that we've established in the staff report as well.

516
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:33,800
So we can really keep people to a protocol, so the names are listed to the criteria.

517
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,560
And there's a thoughtfulness behind the approach as well, because the names would have to explain why you selected that name as well.

518
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,240
As I mentioned in the beginning, the park construction is underway and certain construction

519
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,860
elements are dependent on the park names, such as the Monument Sign, to ensure that the

520
00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:56,520
project is on schedule and to avoid construction delays, staff recommends that either public

521
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,460
outreach begin following city council's direction.

522
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,740
Or city council formalize the name of Paul at this department. This concludes my presentation and I'm available for questions.

523
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:21,140
Okay, I have, I see everybody wants to jump in here, but I'm, I'm, to me, pelvis of park is, pelvis of park. It's always been, pelvis of park and so I, I would support pelvis of park. So I'll just, I'll say that first and then we'll go on down the line. So councilmember Franklin.

524
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Thank you Madam Mayor. I just want to say to this city council as well as to pass city councils. Thank you.

525
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:35,260
for approving the funding to acquire this land to build this new park in District 4.

526
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:37,600
We're very happy to have it.

527
00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:42,840
And I always like to remind everybody what a great success story this park is.

528
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,420
We purchased three drug houses.

529
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,780
That's what they were.

530
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,220
And we level those houses, kept some of the more mature trees.

531
00:40:52,220 --> 00:41:10,040
And we're undergoing the utility lines to improve the appearance of the neighborhood, and we are turning one of the most blighted areas that lines one of the central entryways to our city with a beautiful new park, and it's such a success.

532
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:27,980
As for the name of the park, I'm not opposed to a thoughtful selection of a name, but my personal preference would be to continue the working name of the park, which is Palavista, which means Palm View in English.

533
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:35,820
And because I think that the opportunity will come to maybe this council or perhaps more likely a future council,

534
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:41,060
where we really have somebody who's given a great contribution to the city,

535
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,100
and we'll want to name that park after them.

536
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,900
And so I think for my personal preference would be to officially name it Palavista,

537
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,080
and to preserve the opportunity for a future naming of consequence

538
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,780
that, you know, that opportunity, I think will present itself in the future.

539
00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:03,000
My personal preference.

540
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:04,660
Consumant for Contreras.

541
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,860
I'm going to tell you, I'm going to go and reverse the order, so I actually like

542
00:42:11,860 --> 00:42:17,440
Paul of his to park the name, but I just want to throw out option to even though it's going to take forever.

543
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:27,920
It is a way to generate more awareness about the park, and as kind of, you know,

544
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,960
a different way to go about marketing the park. So I want to throw that out to my colleagues

545
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:41,500
as a suggestion, but I think Paul of us to park is a great name. So I could go either way.

546
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:47,240
I'm okay with waiting for it to go through kind of a longer process, but for the public to be

547
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:54,100
more involved and for the process itself to generate a lot of buzz around this park. It's a great

548
00:42:54,100 --> 00:43:01,800
part, you know, prior to being on the council, I remember going with a few friends to

549
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:09,740
flyer the surrounding apartments. And there were just a tonic kids playing in tiny pieces

550
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:21,960
of grass, so I can't wait for this part to be used. You know, I'm really thankful for the

551
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:29,540
manager, indulge me on a delegation with our assembly member, just to make sure that we had

552
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:36,200
everything we needed to be extra competitive for these state grants and loan behold, I guess

553
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:43,080
we were missing a letter, so we were able to get that and turn that into to the state, and

554
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,100
we received those funds, so I am super excited for this part to be part of our community.

555
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:55,560
It is an extremely important gateway and I could go either way on either just doing

556
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:02,100
Paul of a Stapark or using option 2 as a way to generate some buzz around the park.

557
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Cosmeme of Melendez.

558
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,020
Thank you and thank you so much, Amanda, for your explanation.

559
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:14,880
I had a question about the process that staff has gone through to get to this point.

560
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,320
Where did these initial suggestions come from in option one?

561
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,720
Through.

562
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:31,280
Well, we reached out to the Parks and Recs Commission and they established that we need to reach out to the community,

563
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:40,580
which we know and they kind of done avenues of public outreach through BUSD or through social media.

564
00:44:40,580 --> 00:44:59,960
But there was really no thought of, like, how do we establish these names to come to begin with, so just kind of research through websites of what other jurisdictions have done, what the National Parks and Recreation has done, and there wasn't any, they just said, encourage public outreach. So kind of through, 15 through.

565
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:18,500
So ideas of really kind of how to that range of what outreach is, is really how we narrowed it down as there's consultation without reach, or there's actually engagement. And so we wanted to give both options of the different ways that you can, that you still reach out to the community but centered on like what input you really want.

566
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:24,120
Definitely, and I understand there is a process of ensuring that it fits a certain criteria.

567
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:30,140
If we were to put it out to the community and the community chooses the name that is outside the criteria,

568
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,940
what would be the process to override that recommendation?

569
00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:39,400
Well, they would have to. It's on the recommendation form. It has the criteria on there.

570
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:46,580
So we would get a deadline and everything, and then staff would review them to the criteria and see if it met it or not.

571
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:52,460
if it didn't meet the criteria, then we do have the contact information on that form as well.

572
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,760
And we would reach out to the individual and say that your name is not moving forward because

573
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,960
it didn't meet the criteria.

574
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960
So we would have that communication as well.

575
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:04,220
They wouldn't be given another opportunity, but we would just explain that that's the reason

576
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:05,660
was why it wasn't selected.

577
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:09,900
Every name that meets the criteria would go ahead and move through.

578
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,420
So it would be staff eliminating that, and then that would be put forward to the public.

579
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,680
I may be not super creative, so I think Polyvista is a perfectly fine name.

580
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,900
I think there's some other beautiful names that are suggested, but I really appreciate what

581
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:32,720
Council Member Contreras was saying specifically about marketing the park to the community.

582
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:34,780
I thought that was a great way to put it.

583
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:40,720
I think that if we were to choose option two and have more community involvement in deciding

584
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:48,900
the name, it could create a sense of pride, a sense of ownership, that could bring the community

585
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:54,660
together, and ultimately keep that space flourishing and beautiful because people get to

586
00:46:54,660 --> 00:47:00,160
participate in what the name or something as it gives a lot of power to that. So in terms of

587
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,040
all the options listed, I think polyvists is a beautiful name, it's essential to the area,

588
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,620
And it's going to be a beautiful park.

589
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,420
And I think that if it were my preference,

590
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:16,280
my ideal preference, we would first start with the community

591
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,440
and get those recommendations.

592
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,280
Because if there's a lot of creativity out there,

593
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:21,320
there's a lot of history in our community,

594
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,300
especially people within the vicinity of the park,

595
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:27,440
that could illuminate some of the values or some of the beauty

596
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,080
that we want to be shining within our park development.

597
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,540
So, that would be my feedback, and I'll just leave it to the rest of my colleagues.

598
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:38,180
Dipped it very green.

599
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:44,040
Thank you so much for your presentation, Mrs. Lee, I greatly appreciate it.

600
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,160
I liked the name of the park as well, but I think like my colleagues said, I think communicating

601
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,540
with the cities of big deal, you know, parks are big deals, everybody's got opinions

602
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:56,360
on parks and, you know, we had a lot of outreach for this park.

603
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,900
I think if I had to vote on it, I would vote.

604
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:05,720
of us to park as a VISTA resident, but I really am in favor of getting more input from the community.

605
00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:08,040
So with that said, I thought that option one.

606
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,400
Can you click back to option one for me, Mrs. Lee?

607
00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:14,280
So option one and one of the questions that Katie was asking to is,

608
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,460
these names that you came up with, Amis Amistad, Colibary Community Park,

609
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:19,680
Gateway Park, a chart park.

610
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,920
These were suggestions we got at our initial community study,

611
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,560
is that where these names came from,

612
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,640
where were these actual names come from on this list right here?

613
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:34,520
let me answer that please when the city council originally decided to go forward with the park

614
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,760
purchased the property. These were some of these were names that the city council at that

615
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:46,620
time had come up with as suggestions. Okay so they were created at the staff level or the community

616
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:53,360
level. They were created at the council level and some community level to Amanda and her team.

617
00:48:54,200 --> 00:49:02,660
Oh, sorry, and also when during discussions for the design process, members from the community also made comments during public communications.

618
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,820
No, and actually I love the names that were up here, and that's what I was saying is I couldn't have came up with all these names by myself.

619
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,220
And frankly, I mean, I would be okay with gateway park or polyvesty park, or even a lot and try to park.

620
00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:21,680
I mean, but what I'd really like to do is I think instead of saying, hey, everybody come up with names, I like the option one is hey, let's consult on various names.

621
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,960
if you have a right in name that you want to

622
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,680
a right in and send an application you can,

623
00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:28,920
but if not, can we pull the community on these names

624
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,440
and pick one of these names?

625
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:33,400
I mean, the truth is, Paula Vista Park may very well win.

626
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:34,860
I mean, it is the most practical name,

627
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,580
but we could at least say, hey, as a city council

628
00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:39,620
as a city, your opinion matters to us,

629
00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:43,140
and this is a way for you to give us your opinion.

630
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,020
And I really feel like in the end it could come out the same way,

631
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,600
but the community will have ownership on it.

632
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,280
It's a great way to market the park.

633
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,240
It's a great way to get a huge amount of buzz around it.

634
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:56,440
And since we haven't till the fall of 2022,

635
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,960
which is a year until we actually cut the ribbon at the bottom.

636
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,980
I think that's enough time to do the research and come up with a community consensus on what a good name is. So my recommendation is for option 1, because it's faster than option 2. And I think if we went with option 2 we'd eventually get to option 1 and then go to that right anyway. So I'd say, hey, let's start at option 1, get consensus from the community and then move forward with a park name. If it's tied all across the board, then as a council, we can make the decision at a meeting. But for now, I would really, really love to hear from the community.

637
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,920
And I'd like them to choose from these names because these names are very very thoughtful and concise.

638
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:36,140
That's my recommendation.

639
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,400
City Manager.

640
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,260
I know there's plenty of time.

641
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:48,160
But what is kind of that drop deadline for getting the name so we can include it on the monument side and go for.

642
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:49,220
Is that probably February?

643
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,320
Yeah, I would even gear more towards January as well because we also have to.

644
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:56,080
It's grant funded.

645
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,540
So the federal of the state government also needs to have all the information on what the official

646
00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:04,140
park name as well for for all their information as well.

647
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:09,540
So especially while we're we've advised them that we need a little bit more time so on our

648
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:14,080
reporting farms right now it's known as politics to part but we do have to finalize that

649
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,880
name 60 or 90 day call for public input put a time frame on it and let's get to it.

650
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,120
You know what I mean? That's my big.

651
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,200
Council Member Franklin.

652
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:30,580
I also like the idea of seeking public input on a name, but I kind of like to see the

653
00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:36,860
park open and stand in the park and get a feel for it and have the community come to

654
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:40,300
the park, and I think that I'll get the creative juices flowing.

655
00:51:41,260 --> 00:51:50,100
If you go back to option two for a moment, I think this is a very structured process, which

656
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:56,280
almost sort of, you know, drives toward the selection of an aim rather than sort of just

657
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,440
allowing some ideas to percolate. I would be in favor of a less formalized process that

658
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,720
allows suggestions to come up and maybe even for people to express a preference on those

659
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:14,100
selections. But as was noted, recently a city had a contest for a park and the way a name was,

660
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:15,760
was at Parkie McPark?

661
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,680
Parkie McParkerson, yes.

662
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:23,760
So that was the winning thing in the online vote.

663
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,240
So I don't want to leave it to an online vote.

664
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:30,480
I think I'd like to be a little bit more thoughtful about it.

665
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,280
And I'm not suggesting we have good guidelines,

666
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,340
so I don't think Parkie McParkerson would win,

667
00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:39,400
but I would maybe like to have a little bit more insight

668
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,800
from our Parks and Rec Commission as well as the council.

669
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:53,760
But I think the idea of soliciting input from the community and giving us more things to choose from, and perhaps somebody comes up with a name that the Parks Commission and the Council looks at and says

670
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,020
Geez, I can't believe we didn't think of that. That's got to be the name, right?

671
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:09,180
But I just don't know that we need to rush ourselves to that either. So I think we have a deadline looming. We need to finalize paperwork and a marquee. I don't have a problem with, you know, moving forward with Palavista.

672
00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:15,940
And then when we have a grand opening, maybe that's when we want to announce we're going to have a, you know, a search for the name.

673
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:18,800
I think I spoke to you soon.

674
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,420
I looked it up.

675
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,160
It's parking, make park face.

676
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,420
So parking, make park face.

677
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:23,260
Oh, good.

678
00:53:23,740 --> 00:53:24,300
Even better.

679
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Okay.

680
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,780
I was never contrary to us.

681
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,680
I feel like we're in a tie for like so many different options at once.

682
00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:49,960
I really like the idea of giving the public a lot more input on the park name.

683
00:53:51,340 --> 00:53:55,260
I don't know if there's a blend between option one and two.

684
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,700
That can happen, but I'm having a real hard time right now, because for efficiency

685
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:09,720
say I just want to be like Paul of a Stapark great name let's stamp it move on but I really

686
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:15,860
do think this is a great marketing opportunity for this park and on option one if the public

687
00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:20,460
ends up saying that they want guitar park we're going to have to have some jam sessions there

688
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:29,180
so oh no I'm not sure we need a market the park it's and it's right in the where everybody

689
00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:34,800
was by at a thousand times a day. And so when they see the park finish, I don't know what you

690
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:43,650
need to market it. It's a small park. It's a small neighborhood park, but you know, I think it's

691
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:51,300
the majority of the city wants, they want more parks. So this is just a way for them to be involved

692
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:59,260
with that creative process, right? Like, I don't know. I still think it's a good idea to

693
00:54:59,260 --> 00:54:59,960
if we have a...

694
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:13,160
A little bit of time. The public can be involved and get excited about this park. Because it is small, I don't think everybody's going to be aware of it, but you know, an option too.

695
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:29,880
There's like this huge process, right? Communication with VUSD. I mean, that's, I don't even know how many people are on the VUSD email blast. So, I mean, we don't have a ton of people here to, you know, that are going

696
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,540
show up and give us their suggestions because they're at home doing things that they have

697
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:41,620
to do every day. So perhaps, you know, if we do allow for the public input, we can get

698
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:48,660
something great or we can end up with just all of us to bark. I don't know. I'm in favor of

699
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:56,060
the public having a little bit more of their hands involved in getting this from A to B.

700
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,700
Okay, Deputy Mayor.

701
00:55:59,600 --> 00:55:59,860
All right.

702
00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:01,540
So since we don't have to name it right now,

703
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:02,660
because it's just discussion item,

704
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:06,600
my suggestion is that we do a timed call for input,

705
00:56:06,940 --> 00:56:08,620
and that we put time frames on it,

706
00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:10,440
like 30 day community call for input,

707
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,100
60 day.

708
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,460
Whatever you think Amanda is a reasonable amount of time

709
00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:14,320
for community input.

710
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,020
At that point in time, it comes back to us for a discussion item,

711
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:19,580
or maybe in public hearing.

712
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:21,660
I mean, we can discuss a city manager,

713
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,220
but it was a set time frame,

714
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:24,340
so that it's not out there for like,

715
00:56:24,340 --> 00:56:26,440
Okay, sometime next fall, we're going to have a new park.

716
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,380
So I think if we do a set timeframe for community input, I like the list that's already

717
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:35,820
there, personally, but yes, suggest other names and then come back to us and say, hey,

718
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,600
this is how many people from the community have chimed in on this over the last 45 days

719
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,060
because the truth is, any community input is better than no community input.

720
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,600
So I'd say put a timeframe on it, call for input and then bring it back to us and then it'll

721
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,640
be much easier to make a decision.

722
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:51,780
That's my suggestion.

723
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,060
So do we need a motion for that?

724
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,860
So you're a Councilor.

725
00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:57,880
Deputy Mayor Green.

726
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,940
It was kind of a hybrid of one and two from what I heard.

727
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:05,780
And I think I heard that as well from Councilmember Contreras.

728
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,820
If you're good with that, we can go forward.

729
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,520
We can list the names that have been suggested to this point.

730
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:14,700
And ask for additional suggestions.

731
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,100
If necessary, we'll put a time limit on it.

732
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,920
We'll get it out.

733
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:21,760
We'll get it back to you.

734
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,760
and move on.

735
00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:27,440
Councilman Franklin, did you want to speak again?

736
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:33,820
I was going to do what our city manager just didn't try to sum it up, but I like

737
00:57:33,820 --> 00:57:39,600
the idea of calling for public input and seeking direction.

738
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,180
So I think that's a good way to go.

739
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:45,490
Okay, so that news takes care of that, right?

740
00:57:45,950 --> 00:57:46,130
Okay.

741
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:48,330
So then, moving on.

742
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:53,110
Our fourth discussion item is the American Rescue Plan Act coronavirus

743
00:57:53,110 --> 00:57:57,190
state and local fiscal recovery funding, projectless and spending plan.

744
00:57:57,470 --> 00:58:00,250
Our finance director, Mike Silvia, will provide the staff report.

745
00:58:15,590 --> 00:58:17,190
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

746
00:58:18,850 --> 00:58:25,810
This item is to introduce the American Rescue Plan Act and provide a high-level review

747
00:58:25,810 --> 00:58:31,410
of its components, objectives, rules, guidance, and this one's a mouthful, the coronavirus,

748
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:37,990
various state and local fiscal recovery funding, or the CSLFRF.

749
00:58:38,590 --> 00:58:42,390
I'm going to call it the ARPA funding, if everyone's okay with that, for conversation

750
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:43,150
sake.

751
00:58:44,410 --> 00:58:49,990
Also, towards the end, we'll discuss the city staff's process and developing the proposed

752
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:56,410
project list that has exhibited the agenda report and finish the discussion, review and

753
00:58:56,410 --> 00:59:00,510
Q&A and potential modification of the list with Council and any members of the public who

754
00:59:00,510 --> 00:59:01,870
to speak to the item.

755
00:59:06,790 --> 00:59:11,510
So, ARPA was approved by both houses of Congress in early March and

756
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:19,670
signed into law by President Biden on March 11th, 2021. Provided total funding of $1.9 trillion

757
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:26,110
and included in that sum was the ARPA funding for the state and local governments, which is $350

758
00:59:26,110 --> 00:59:33,970
billion, nationwide. Local and state governments were categorized in six different types

759
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:42,610
the city is categorized as a metropolitan city under 250,000 in population with an allocation

760
00:59:42,610 --> 00:59:49,170
greater than 5 million. The city's allocation is 26.2 million. It'll be provided in two

761
00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:54,630
torrentures. The first half is already arrived on early July of this year and we expect the second

762
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:56,750
half in June of 2022.

763
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:12,780
So, the key funding objectives first is to bolster state and local governments efforts in response of missing combatting spread of the virus and controlling the pandemic.

764
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:25,340
Also, in fill replacement or revenues lost during the pandemic and thereby funding public services on equipping local economies to retain existing jobs and foster future job growth.

765
01:00:25,340 --> 01:00:27,540
Number three, closely aligned in number two,

766
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,000
is stabilizing local economies

767
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,480
and lastly, providing assistance

768
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,260
and dealing with the systemic challenges

769
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:36,140
related to public health and local economic issues.

770
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:43,570
So our guide book or our rule book

771
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:45,630
has provided us from the U.S. Treasury,

772
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:49,530
otherwise known as the interim final rule or the IFR.

773
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:53,290
The ARPA funding is limited to use

774
01:00:53,290 --> 01:00:56,950
specifically authorized under the IFR

775
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:59,990
And in addition, the IFR establishes the compliance

776
01:00:59,990 --> 01:01:03,070
of reporting requirements for the funding.

777
01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:07,030
Our initial reporting is due August 31st,

778
01:01:07,050 --> 01:01:10,150
so in about a week, and then our first quarterly report,

779
01:01:10,370 --> 01:01:14,510
we do October 31st, similar to the quarterly reporting

780
01:01:14,510 --> 01:01:16,250
we do for other federal grants.

781
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:19,310
The last bullet point I really want to emphasize

782
01:01:19,310 --> 01:01:23,010
that the IFR makes it clear that only the IFR authorized

783
01:01:23,010 --> 01:01:32,270
projects can be funded by the ARPA funding, otherwise the local government risk required reimbursement

784
01:01:32,270 --> 01:01:38,270
back to the federal government. This is consistent with FEMA funding as well and there are

785
01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:43,190
local government horror stories of eight and nine figure reimbursements due back to the federal

786
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:43,570
government.

787
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:53,020
Quick summary of the expenditure categories, they are detailed beginning with

788
01:01:53,020 --> 01:01:59,940
subcategories on page 39 of the Agenda Report, which is a sub part of the compliance

789
01:01:59,940 --> 01:02:04,800
and reporting document from Treasury. I mostly wanted to comment on our last two bullet points

790
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,980
here. The IFR makes it very clear that the only types of infrastructure that can be funded

791
01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:19,620
are water, sewer, storm water, and broadband, and then specific to revenue replacement. It makes

792
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:27,140
clear in the IFR that general revenues in aggregate would need to be below our base year,

793
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:34,180
which for us would be fiscal 2018-19, and because they are not, staff is not recommending

794
01:02:34,180 --> 01:02:39,760
revenue replacement of general revenues, and this is consistent with the question I feel

795
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:47,000
different deputy or green back in May when I provided the fiscal 2021, a third quarter financial

796
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,740
report. We do have a few line items that have suffered specifically investment earnings

797
01:02:51,740 --> 01:02:57,140
and TOT taxes, but overall we're, we're in a better place than we were in fiscal 2019.

798
01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:10,300
So to summarize, kind of the methodology that city staff utilized in composing the list that

799
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:15,800
you see before you initially staff reviewed kind of the general guidance after we received notice

800
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,960
of the award. It was pretty vague at first and that's what we had to start with. Our initial

801
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:27,260
list did have 75 potential projects. From there we did a secondary review of the initial list

802
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:33,320
once we had the Treasury Department's IFR and could see the limitations there. And again,

803
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:39,620
staff did take a very strict interpretation of the IFR to prevent a potential required payback

804
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:47,820
to Treasury of a potentially unallowed project or project costs. From there we made a prioritization

805
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:53,760
of the remaining list and wanted to really match our cash flow for the projects that we were

806
01:03:53,760 --> 01:04:00,520
going to propose and be congruent with one-time revenues to one-time expenses and that's

807
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,920
compliant with the GF-weight budgeting best practice.

808
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,840
And I'd say another layer of analysis that we focused on was existing infrastructure repair

809
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,340
before the consideration of new infrastructure construction.

810
01:04:12,340 --> 01:04:13,280
And

811
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,180
so to summarize the 23 projects that are an exhibit to the agenda report, there are

812
01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:30,700
three categories shown here on this slide, and they comprise about 98% of the funding.

813
01:04:31,180 --> 01:04:37,340
The largest being infrastructure at 17.4 million or about two-thirds of the total allocation.

814
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:44,740
The largest project within that category is the storm drain system rehab and repair at

815
01:04:44,740 --> 01:04:50,620
and a half million dollars and you know as irony would have I think we've all heard about the

816
01:04:50,620 --> 01:04:57,980
sinkholes that occurred both on Melrose as well as Sikomore and it really speaks to the

817
01:04:57,980 --> 01:04:59,940
degradated condition of our court.

818
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,100
Regulated metal pipe system that comprises that system, which is why it was a high priority on our list.

819
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,780
Second one is a climate action plan funding at $2.5 million. That's energy efficiency projects,

820
01:05:12,860 --> 01:05:20,160
fleet conversion to electric vehicles, as well as projects to be implemented as a part of the bicycle master plan.

821
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:28,560
Other infrastructure items are downtown Wi-Fi estimated costs on that, as 125,000 replacements

822
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:35,740
of concrete line storm drain channels at just under 1.3 million and advanced irrigation

823
01:05:35,740 --> 01:05:40,200
controllers at Creek side in Thibodot Parks, which we'll save water.

824
01:05:42,020 --> 01:05:49,300
Next category is the negative economic impact section at 5.4 million or 20.5% of the allocation.

825
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:57,020
And the primary project in this expense category is 3 million proposed to be utilized as a business grant program.

826
01:05:57,180 --> 01:06:02,640
The grants would be between $1,000 and $15,000 for eligible businesses.

827
01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:11,820
And that criteria is to be determined, although some of those deal points are vetted out for subsidies.

828
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
We've got the wave, senior nutrition and gas tax.

829
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:22,340
that total is 1.4 million, about half of that is the wave, senior nutrition is about 30%

830
01:06:22,340 --> 01:06:23,960
and gas taxes about 20.

831
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:31,800
And the last item I'm shown here is premium pay at $3 million or 11.5% of the allocation.

832
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:38,140
And that is in line with the MOUs that have been agreed upon between the Employee Organization's

833
01:06:38,140 --> 01:06:39,340
Management and City Council.

834
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:45,000
And I would add the majority of this payout would be expected to be completed by the end

835
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,600
October.

836
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,740
So that completes my presentation and I'd say that both staff from the submitting

837
01:06:56,740 --> 01:07:01,340
departments as well as I are available for questions and discussion on the projects

838
01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:05,460
that are being proposed and exhibit too. And the way we'd kind of like to structure

839
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:11,540
if Council is amenable too. It is almost looking at the 23 items like a consent calendar

840
01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:20,260
pulling the items that there are concerns or questions on. We can address those with the

841
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:27,020
find the list overall as needed, and at the end of the discussion and potential modification

842
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:35,800
we'd be seeking approval of the Associated Resolution that would provide for the allocation

843
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:42,220
and authorization of the $26.2 million and allowing the City Managers to approve the related

844
01:07:42,220 --> 01:07:45,260
contracts and documents for the projects contained in the list.

845
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:54,190
Okay, so can I ask the council, maybe if there's issues on here that they want to pull out?

846
01:07:54,210 --> 01:07:54,610
No.

847
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:56,530
Mayor, if I might add, we have two speakers.

848
01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:58,690
So I didn't know if you'd like.

849
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:59,370
First and then.

850
01:07:59,530 --> 01:08:00,190
First and then.

851
01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:04,250
Then have the council pull out items that they have questions or concerns or issues with.

852
01:08:04,550 --> 01:08:04,590
Okay.

853
01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:06,790
Well, you don't have to tell me what they are right now.

854
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:12,030
But if you consider them and then we'll take the speakers and then think about the items you want to pull out.

855
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:16,210
And then we could do maybe a motion for the balance of that and then just talk about those items.

856
01:08:16,210 --> 01:08:20,210
that would be okay. Okay, so we'll start with our speakers. I have two speakers, Jim

857
01:08:20,210 --> 01:08:22,010
Righenbach first.

858
01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:35,940
Thank you. Hi, my name is Jim Righenbach. I'm a Vista resident. If you

859
01:08:35,940 --> 01:08:40,740
comments about this topic first regarding the $3 million grant program is that open to non

860
01:08:40,740 --> 01:08:45,760
profits. If so, will the non profits be in direct competition with the for profit companies?

861
01:08:46,660 --> 01:08:52,040
Regarding the for profit companies and businesses, is it open to any business in Vista regardless

862
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:59,840
of size. I suggest carving out money specifically for nonprofits. Second, it is

863
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:06,620
great to see that money is going towards the bicycle master plan. My concern is that the

864
01:09:06,620 --> 01:09:11,460
plan is out of date and relies two heavily on striped bike lanes. People don't use striped

865
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:15,860
bike lanes. Please use this money to start building protected bike lanes on all major

866
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:20,840
thoroughfares in the city. If you build barriers between cars and bikes and pedestrians,

867
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:26,900
and people will bike more. The mayor mentioned during the last meeting that e-bikes are becoming

868
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:31,600
more popular and we need better infrastructure to support them. I completely agree.

869
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,640
Third is regarding the internship program. It's listed as services to services to

870
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:43,660
disproportionately impacted communities who exactly are the disproportionately impacted community

871
01:09:43,660 --> 01:09:48,400
in that scenario. When I hear that term, I think of the well-documented disparities seen in

872
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,920
and ethnic minority groups when faced with COVID-19.

873
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,920
Those are the communities that have been disproportionately impacted.

874
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,160
And I don't see that these communities are specifically targeted.

875
01:09:58,980 --> 01:09:59,960
In that section are the...

876
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:11,680
This plan in general. There are both biomedical and social determinants that contribute to these disparities. I think those should be addressed in this plan. I'd like to see race and ethnicity specifically addressed here.

877
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:19,920
And finally, I'd like to read a short article that was in Sunday's paper related to this issue. It's in the business section, local, it's out of San Marcos.

878
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,740
had lines city offering three million dollars in grants to non-profits.

879
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,220
Sam Marcos has opened a three million dollar COVID-19 non-profit community grant program,

880
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,860
aimed at helping essential non-profits that serve Sam Marcos residents who have been disproportionately

881
01:10:33,860 --> 01:10:38,700
affected by the pandemic. The city is working with the North County COVID Relief Fund to administer

882
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:43,560
the grants. Target populations will include underrepresented communities containing, but not limited

883
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,200
to youths, low-income individuals, and families, seniors, immigrants, and active military

884
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:53,280
and veteran families. Applications are being accepted at this website. The web page also

885
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:58,700
outlines eligibility requirements and provides details on the grant process. For more information,

886
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:04,540
check the website, there's also a webinar. I suggest we follow Sam Marcos's lead. Thank you.

887
01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:09,900
Thank you. Rachel Bell, did you, were she? Did you want to talk?

888
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,440
Good evening, Mayor. I'm at the City Council. I'm Rachel Bell, the CEO of the Vista Chamber of Commerce,

889
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:27,480
And I really was just a headmark that I'm in support of the item and I was here tonight

890
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:34,040
in case there were any questions specific to the programs where the chamber could be of service and a consultant on these funds.

891
01:11:34,780 --> 01:11:42,060
Overall, since I'm up here, I'll say that $26.2 million is an amazing opportunity to invest in our community.

892
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,240
And I'm really excited to see the list of projects before the council tonight. And I look forward to hearing your discussion.

893
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,440
Thank you. Thank you.

894
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:57,280
And that will be, that is the end of our speakers, so then, I guess we need to hear what,

895
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:00,200
so should we go to each person and how do I do this?

896
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:05,100
Well originally we thought it'd be similar to the consent calendar in terms of if you had,

897
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,080
there's 23 items.

898
01:12:06,580 --> 01:12:10,480
If there's items that you want to have more discussion on, you want to have questions on

899
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:17,580
or you just want to issue a statement on, go one by one, maybe pull those items off,

900
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:20,520
I know Councilwoman, Council Member Contreras,

901
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:23,420
Push her button, maybe you can just go through the list

902
01:12:23,420 --> 01:12:25,020
and then we'll pull those items off

903
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:26,500
and then we'll start and go in order.

904
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,660
Okay, so maybe I'll just go through the list

905
01:12:29,660 --> 01:12:31,560
of the buttons pushed here and then you can tell

906
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,780
which items, would that be okay?

907
01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:36,660
Okay, so we'll start with Council Member Contreras.

908
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,240
All right, so I

909
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:46,550
wanna ask my co-workers on staff.

910
01:12:46,730 --> 01:12:49,070
One was the last time that we had a workshop

911
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:56,770
for the public when it comes to either our budget or this twenty-six million dollar

912
01:12:56,770 --> 01:12:58,110
a lot meant.

913
01:13:03,230 --> 01:13:04,670
You asking me?

914
01:13:04,710 --> 01:13:06,470
I'm asking whoever has an answer.

915
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:07,370
All right.

916
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:12,850
Well, we had a budgeting process that we brought before the City Council in April, May, and

917
01:13:12,850 --> 01:13:13,310
June.

918
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:18,470
So that was a public process where the public was invited to speak on anything related

919
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:18,930
to the budget.

920
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:23,710
This is the first time that this item has been brought before the City Council in terms

921
01:13:23,710 --> 01:13:49,170
the ARPA funding. Okay. So this is a lot of money. There's a lot of money on this list. I know that, you know, we're receiving this list from staff at any point. Is this the first time that the council discusses any of this?

922
01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:55,960
Yes, it is. Okay, I just want to make it clear for the public. I think it would be

923
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:05,180
Huvas to go slowly on accepting these items because I do believe that the public needs

924
01:14:05,180 --> 01:14:16,590
to have more time to review how they want their money spent. So I'm going to go through certain

925
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:27,270
items that I'll just do it like how you said will pull them off. So, premium pay, that's good,

926
01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:31,670
cap funding, good, subsidy. It could just give me the numbers. So we could do it then up by numbers.

927
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:39,030
Stormwater infrastructure at almost $14 million. I wouldn't think of that off. You know,

928
01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:43,910
like number one, two, three, so we could do the numbers. Yeah, number five, stormwater infrastructure

929
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:52,530
at 14 million. Number six, Montemar, Drain, at almost a million. Number seven, West

930
01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:57,070
to weigh drain channel at 350,000.

931
01:15:01,780 --> 01:15:07,240
Number 16 financial literacy programs that 174,600,

932
01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:13,000
number 20 workforce gap analysis,

933
01:15:15,220 --> 01:15:17,880
number 21 paid internship program,

934
01:15:20,710 --> 01:15:28,810
number 23 fund a downtown clean and safe program that can provide downtown ambassadors at 460,000.

935
01:15:28,810 --> 01:15:32,210
For some of these items,

936
01:15:34,230 --> 01:15:37,270
I believe in them, like the paid internship program.

937
01:15:38,130 --> 01:15:48,190
However, I want to know how we are going to be under number three for the recovery plan,

938
01:15:48,330 --> 01:15:51,310
will include at a minimum the following information.

939
01:15:51,310 --> 01:15:58,150
So, this is page 32 of 43, and it's number three, promoting equitable outcomes.

940
01:15:59,190 --> 01:16:05,490
Describe efforts to promote equitable outcomes, including how programs were designed with equity

941
01:16:05,490 --> 01:16:06,170
in mind.

942
01:16:07,550 --> 01:16:15,730
We're talking about a pandemic that has really highlighted inequities in our community, not

943
01:16:15,730 --> 01:16:17,370
just here in VISTA, but everywhere.

944
01:16:17,810 --> 01:16:24,990
So, I really want to make sure that we're constantly, can I get, can I get, can see if any of

945
01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:36,330
I just want to go through and get everybody's, their numbers filled off here to have, and then clear the, the balance, and then go back and then go back to the list and have you pull each item and discuss it if you can do it that way.

946
01:16:36,590 --> 01:16:41,490
We can do it that way and I just want to make sure that we're able to answer this number three.

947
01:16:43,790 --> 01:16:49,450
No, that's promoting equitable outcomes, it's something that we have to do as part of the plan.

948
01:16:49,730 --> 01:16:51,250
Okay, number three, okay, got it, okay.

949
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:54,590
So then, okay, then I'll go to come from Franklin.

950
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:57,630
Do you have any numbers that you want to pull out?

951
01:16:58,430 --> 01:17:03,250
You know, I didn't want to specifically pull it off if we didn't have to, but maybe it's already been pulled off.

952
01:17:03,870 --> 01:17:08,130
But the $3 million for business impacts.

953
01:17:08,130 --> 01:17:15,270
I was hoping that that item would come back before the council and we'd have a full discussion and approve a program.

954
01:17:15,470 --> 01:17:17,450
Is that the intent of staff I assumed it was?

955
01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:19,150
But what number is that?

956
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:21,220
It's number eight.

957
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:22,180
Number eight.

958
01:17:22,740 --> 01:17:26,520
So the intent was we would have our economic development developer,

959
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,640
have hanged up here and speak to you about the program

960
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,820
and walk you through how the program might work.

961
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,580
And we also have we're proposing to have the Chamber of Commerce

962
01:17:36,580 --> 01:17:42,580
ever see that program and we have as you heard Rachel Bell here as well to be able to comment

963
01:17:42,580 --> 01:17:44,240
if you have questions for her.

964
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:51,060
So I was hoping that we could have a full discussion on that item and that the Council

965
01:17:51,060 --> 01:17:54,000
could be involved in the creation of that program.

966
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:58,960
You know, I agree there's non-profit organizations we're going to want to include as well

967
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,280
and we're going to want to look at the, you know, which businesses are going to qualify in

968
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,800
what basis, so I guess I would pull that item so that we can talk about.

969
01:18:09,180 --> 01:18:12,780
Okay, what I'll do is, once I find what ones we're not here, then we'll do the balance,

970
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,100
and then I'll go through, we'll start and go five, six, eight, you know, go through them each

971
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:17,820
one, okay?

972
01:18:18,540 --> 01:18:21,800
Okay, so then I'll go to Council Member Melendez.

973
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:25,420
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

974
01:18:26,620 --> 01:18:31,740
We are going to do it in this fashion, I'll go ahead and just briefly list off the numbers.

975
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:38,600
Although I do want to express that, you know, while we want to have efficiency in these discussions,

976
01:18:40,060 --> 01:18:46,000
this isn't a consent calendar item and so I want the public to be aware that we want to be thorough

977
01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:54,760
about all these items here, but we are as individuals highlighting the ones that are very significant to us

978
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,420
or ones that we have maybe concerns about or would like to discuss in greater depth.

979
01:18:59,420 --> 01:19:04,180
Ideally, we could discuss all of these in greater depth, but I will go ahead and highlight

980
01:19:04,180 --> 01:19:07,300
the ones that are very pertinent to me.

981
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:13,980
I'm going to say number five, the Stormwater Infrastructure, number eight, the grant program

982
01:19:13,980 --> 01:19:15,180
with the chamber.

983
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:24,000
Let's see also number 16, financial literacy programs,

984
01:19:26,590 --> 01:19:30,870
18, training program, 21, page

985
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:38,150
internship program, and 23 the clean and safe program I'd like to discuss those at greater

986
01:19:38,150 --> 01:19:41,510
length. Okay, and Deputy Mayor.

987
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:53,840
3, 8, 11, 14, and 21. Okay, so then could I get, it's, it's

988
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:59,920
still this works. A motion for. I would move to approve the balance of the items listed with

989
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,860
The exception to the numbers that were pulled by my colleagues.

990
01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:08,820
Got it. Okay, have a motion in a second on that. So can we vote on that and get that set aside?

991
01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:16,380
And then we'll discuss everything else in detail. Okay? So these cashier votes on that.

992
01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:28,940
That motion passes unanimously. Okay, so we will start then. Looks to be like the first item number.

993
01:20:29,540 --> 01:20:31,700
The discuss will be number. How do you want to do this?

994
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,080
Yeah, let's just, we'll go number three.

995
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:40,180
Yeah, so it's going to number three just start with each each number since Mr. Sylvia's city here will start with number three

996
01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:44,100
Okay, fine answer. Okay, number three. Let's start with. We're going to start with.

997
01:20:46,780 --> 01:20:47,800
So yeah, that was

998
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:58,620
As I said as I detailed in the presentation those are the 1.4 million dollars was just over 700,000 for the way which is a budgeted subsidy

999
01:20:58,620 --> 01:21:06,000
a bit over 400,000 in senior nutrition and a bit under 200,000 from member correctly for gas

1000
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,140
tax and those were those are budgeted subsidies and if we had the opportunity to backload

1001
01:21:12,140 --> 01:21:14,980
that and relieve the general fund we wanted to go for that.

1002
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,660
Perfect so I it's not that I'm opposed to using those funds allocated in that way at all.

1003
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,580
I just know that our senior community was very hardly impacted by this and they haven't been able

1004
01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:30,180
get back in there and have their meals and have their camaraderie, and if we have money that

1005
01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:34,800
we're allocating towards this, I just want to make sure that staff is fully aware of the level

1006
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,740
of urgency that I want to put behind this to get them back there, eating and doing their thing.

1007
01:21:39,980 --> 01:21:44,440
They're so lonely and they're so desperate to get back to the senior center, so these additional

1008
01:21:44,440 --> 01:21:49,400
funds, if that allows us to get that open and get that run and quicker, I want to do that.

1009
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,660
like I, I'm still bummed that they're not,

1010
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,660
they're eating every day and dancing a few times a week

1011
01:21:55,660 --> 01:21:57,960
and you know, salsa and with myself

1012
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,460
and council member, contraris.

1013
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,580
And I know council member Melinda

1014
01:22:00,580 --> 01:22:02,200
is wanting to get over there to salsa too.

1015
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,480
So the sooner we can get this senior center up

1016
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:05,040
and running the better.

1017
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:06,660
So the only reason I wanted to pull that

1018
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,320
is to just stress the importance of getting that senior

1019
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,340
center back up and running

1020
01:22:10,340 --> 01:22:12,260
and make sure that those funds are allocated as quickly

1021
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:14,500
as possible to get that back up and running.

1022
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:15,300
So that's it.

1023
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:15,960
Thank you.

1024
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,360
That's deputy mayor.

1025
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:30,640
We have just so the council understands we have two key positions that have been higher and we are waiting for them to start in September and once they do that we planned to open the center fully.

1026
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:42,820
At the towards the end of September and I was going to announce it later tonight under all communications but I want to let you know we are going to open the center on Wednesday mornings as well.

1027
01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:50,080
As an added benefit to get some of the senior population in there in the morning and then we have two seasons Thursdays in the afternoon. Thank you

1028
01:22:51,860 --> 01:22:53,220
Council member Pinterest

1029
01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:59,270
Sorry, I didn't know how to since all our names are still up here

1030
01:23:00,830 --> 01:23:04,250
I wanted to work but thank you. I appreciate it

1031
01:23:04,750 --> 01:23:09,050
I just want to make sure that I'm clear about number three subsidies the

1032
01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:17,240
the money is that going just to making us whole or it or is it additional money from

1033
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,840
the money that we're already budgeted to spend.

1034
01:23:21,620 --> 01:23:25,620
It's additional money typically the money would come from the general fund but because we

1035
01:23:25,620 --> 01:23:29,240
have the south side funding source it would be a savings to the general fund.

1036
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:36,840
As a savings to the general fund means that this is in addition to what we have allocated

1037
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,120
or doesn't mean that it's a substitute.

1038
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:47,900
it's a substitute. So it's not, so it's not more, we're not allocating more money than we

1039
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:53,260
would have if we didn't receive this money because this is a substitute for the money we've

1040
01:23:53,260 --> 01:23:58,240
already allocated in our budget. Am I understanding that correctly? You are. So I just want to

1041
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:04,300
make sure that everybody understands that we're not going to be providing with this 1.4

1042
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:08,020
million more money in subsidies.

1043
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:15,600
It is simply a way to balance our balance sheet.

1044
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:20,500
Okay, but I'm totally in favor of it.

1045
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,520
Okay, that's my Franklin.

1046
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,180
Yeah, I'm in favor also of item number three.

1047
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:30,320
These are city programs that we had a demonstrable loss of revenue

1048
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,520
that was directly related to COVID.

1049
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:38,540
And so I think using these funds, this is one of the most expressed purposes, which the funds were intended,

1050
01:24:38,980 --> 01:24:41,220
was to replace COVID impacted revenues.

1051
01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:43,000
So I think that's the right thing to do.

1052
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:48,900
I just, the only general comment I want to give is, you know, I think we all had a lot of spending priorities.

1053
01:24:49,220 --> 01:24:50,960
We all always have a lot of spending priorities.

1054
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:54,240
Most of them did not fit into the guidelines of this program.

1055
01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:59,960
So, you know, on a general basis, I want to commend staff for coming up with some great programming for the...

1056
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,940
These funds that actually allows us maximum flexibility with our general fund in the future.

1057
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,020
And I think the community will appreciate that in the years to come.

1058
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:15,740
Because a lot of the things that we are able to invest in here are real traditional infrastructure projects

1059
01:25:15,740 --> 01:25:18,420
that we were going to expend funds on in the future.

1060
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:24,160
So, this plan is really giving us a lot of future flexibility. I think it's good one.

1061
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,740
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1062
01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:50,240
I am also in favor of item three on this list to provide support and supplementation to some of our senior programs and it is also important to recognize that this isn't to expand the programming that is already in place.

1063
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:55,500
I know that seniors have been very hard hit by COVID.

1064
01:25:55,780 --> 01:26:04,940
The isolation is very strong for some individuals, and while I do support using this

1065
01:26:04,940 --> 01:26:12,620
funding for senior nutrition programs and our senior center, I would like to see this program

1066
01:26:12,620 --> 01:26:19,780
be used not to supplement what would have been coming from our general fund, but to expand

1067
01:26:19,780 --> 01:26:24,940
the programs to perhaps reach further into the community where people are experiencing isolation

1068
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,840
and providing that assistance and providing those services.

1069
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:39,760
So because, as Council Member Contreras recognized in the document, one of the essential elements

1070
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:46,080
of these ARPA funds is a focus on equity and when we look at our senior population, they absolutely

1071
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:54,060
have been hit very hard by COVID and I would like to see, you know, these funds go to expand

1072
01:26:54,060 --> 01:27:00,260
programs if at all possible and maybe you can answer the question for the sake of our discussion

1073
01:27:00,260 --> 01:27:06,860
and also for the community that's here listening. Since these subsidies are now coming from

1074
01:27:06,860 --> 01:27:13,820
the ARPA funding, where is that money that is in our general fund? Where is that planning ongoing?

1075
01:27:15,580 --> 01:27:21,460
It would roll to unassigned fund balance, I mean, it would, it's essentially a general fund savings

1076
01:27:21,460 --> 01:27:26,340
because there was a, you know, if it were, we're to move forward as it's proposed here,

1077
01:27:26,580 --> 01:27:34,480
it has council member, contraris said it's a substitute, but it certainly, it's a desire

1078
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:37,300
of the council additional funding could be programmed.

1079
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:43,040
Okay, and would our council have the opportunity in the future to discuss where that funding goes?

1080
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,950
Absolutely, I mean, this is, you know, I didn't say it in the presentation, but when

1081
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,140
the federal government's handing out $350 million to thousands of local governments,

1082
01:27:55,580 --> 01:28:07,280
I don't think any of these plans are set in stone. I mean, if you imagine it like a budget, it's going to

1083
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,780
by December 31st, 2024 and spent by December 31st, 2026.

1084
01:28:13,340 --> 01:28:19,060
And so this is an initial cut, if you will, to something that probably will be a living

1085
01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:19,480
document.

1086
01:28:20,020 --> 01:28:20,200
Okay.

1087
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:21,360
Well, thank you.

1088
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:26,880
I'm going to add just real quick, I think I mentioned to a number of you that what we

1089
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:31,200
are hoping to do is come back at a later date with the subsidy money in particular, not the

1090
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:37,260
other monies, but the subsidy money and allocate that money and in particular, like the

1091
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:45,580
We have a need to have a reserve account at the way of water park and this funding would be a boost to be able to provide that.

1092
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,700
So we would be coming back to you with the subsidy funding to be able to allocate.

1093
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:51,780
Thank you.

1094
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:59,020
And I am, like I said, in favor of this use allocation for the ARPA funds.

1095
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:04,800
But I do want to contextualize our conversation that, you know, while this is an item that, you know,

1096
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,740
Most of us are in agreement of using RPF1s4.

1097
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:11,940
I want to be mindful of how we're planning on using

1098
01:29:11,940 --> 01:29:17,800
these RPF1s, right, in parallel to some of our general fund

1099
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:24,740
uses that also, we don't want to take away from them.

1100
01:29:24,820 --> 01:29:27,720
So I hope that we can get to some of those next.

1101
01:29:28,140 --> 01:29:28,780
Thank you.

1102
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:30,380
Tell us about the Franklin.

1103
01:29:30,860 --> 01:29:33,280
Make a motion to approve item number three.

1104
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,600
Okay, do I have a second?

1105
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:36,420
I'll second.

1106
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,960
Okay, so please catch a votes and item number three.

1107
01:29:45,370 --> 01:29:46,510
And motion passes unanimously.

1108
01:29:47,130 --> 01:29:50,010
The next item I have, would we go to be item number five?

1109
01:29:51,710 --> 01:29:54,390
We have our community development director and director of engineering

1110
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:58,350
John Conley here to discuss item number five,

1111
01:29:58,410 --> 01:29:59,510
which is stormwater.

1112
01:30:02,450 --> 01:30:06,230
Okay, so Councilmember Ken, Chair, do you want to go first on that?

1113
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:19,320
I think my biggest issue with this is not the fact that we desperately need to address our stormwater infrastructure.

1114
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:25,300
The issue that I have is that for my understanding, we haven't been saving for stormwater infrastructure.

1115
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:32,000
So, at this point, we have received ARPA funds and

1116
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:48,000
instead of utilizing this funding for promoting equity in our community, we're having to use it on something that we just have neglected to save for.

1117
01:30:48,700 --> 01:30:50,400
So, that's my biggest issue.

1118
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:55,920
Yeah, maybe I can clarify too for not only the council, but the members of the audience.

1119
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Stormwater is an area that there is no true funding source for similar or like sewer

1120
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:08,280
where we collect a fee to maintain our sewer infrastructure both the pipes and the operations.

1121
01:31:08,980 --> 01:31:14,380
We're able to do that with sewer funds and unfortunately we don't have a stormwater fund.

1122
01:31:14,380 --> 01:31:21,300
the state didn't mandate a storm water fund, and so we are left with not having an appropriate

1123
01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:22,740
revenue source for infrastructure.

1124
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,720
So back in the 50s, the 60s, the 80s, the 90s, you name it.

1125
01:31:28,460 --> 01:31:36,420
This infrastructure has been maintained to a very slight degree, and so that's why staff

1126
01:31:36,420 --> 01:31:41,800
had put this forward as such a large item, but we think that this is certainly something

1127
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:47,260
I could set the community up, the City Council is up for the future for the next 40 to 50 years

1128
01:31:47,260 --> 01:31:52,400
by maintaining this infrastructure that is desperately needed as Mr. Silvia said. We've had

1129
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:58,820
two sinkholes on Melrose and on Sikomore. We've also had a sinkhole on foot hill. We've had

1130
01:31:58,820 --> 01:32:03,600
sinkholes in townside area and it's desperately needed. I know it's a huge amount of money.

1131
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:10,160
Don't give me wrong. But this is from at least my perspective, a good opportunity to take advantage

1132
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,160
to fixing that infrastructure so that doesn't become a problem for the future.

1133
01:32:14,940 --> 01:32:21,580
Right, and I'm in agreement with that, I just want to make sure that in 40 to 50 years

1134
01:32:21,580 --> 01:32:27,520
that we actually do have something in the bank, because we know that none of this

1135
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:39,800
lasts indefinitely, so I just want to make sure that we are doing our due diligence as a

1136
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:47,120
to rely on emergency money that we didn't even know we were going to be receiving to fix structural

1137
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,480
issues in our city.

1138
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:56,000
That's a good point, as UNI at the conversation yesterday, I would take about $250 to $270,000

1139
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,080
a year starting with to set aside to plan for the future.

1140
01:33:00,340 --> 01:33:04,460
I think it's a great suggestion too.

1141
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:05,740
Councilmember Melendez.

1142
01:33:05,740 --> 01:33:18,660
Thank you Madam Mayor, thank you Council Member Contrares for considering looking forward in the future of how we're going to support these infrastructure needs.

1143
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:25,940
My concern with item five with stormwater infrastructure is first when the community is looking at this document.

1144
01:33:25,940 --> 01:33:38,340
It is the largest allocation, $13.5 million, and that's a really huge allocation in this

1145
01:33:38,340 --> 01:33:44,460
entire ARPA funds that could be used for so many things.

1146
01:33:45,540 --> 01:33:55,920
I am concerned about ensuring that this item and other items are accomplishing the objective

1147
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:01,760
I know that there was an explanation of the risk of reimbursement.

1148
01:34:02,020 --> 01:34:11,160
So would you be able to explain a little bit to us how the stormwater infrastructure specifically fits into some of these objectives, right?

1149
01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:21,160
Supporting the COVID-19 response efforts, replacing loss revenue and assisting in job retention, supporting immediate economic stabilization,

1150
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:25,800
and addressing systemic public health and economic challenges.

1151
01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:33,600
First glance is hard for me to connect those objectives to improving our stormwater infrastructure,

1152
01:34:34,060 --> 01:34:37,360
especially like my colleague, it has expressed.

1153
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:43,920
This is a one-time funding from the federal government.

1154
01:34:44,460 --> 01:34:46,360
So if you could explain that, that would be very helpful.

1155
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:53,680
I think there's a strong connection between storm water and overall health of the community without a doubt.

1156
01:34:53,780 --> 01:34:55,380
I think we could all agree upon that.

1157
01:34:55,980 --> 01:34:59,860
But storm water is called out specifically in this document.

1158
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,900
And saying that this is an eligible use.

1159
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:29,000
So I understand your question about the criteria that's in here. And just for, just for sake of clarity, on page 32 of 43, it talks about promoting equitable outcomes. And I'm not arguing that we should look at what those equitable outcomes are. But it does only apply to cities that are 250,000 or more in size. So for us, from an audit perspective with the federal government,

1160
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:35,080
this item, or any of these items that we're proposing fall well into the Arpagide

1161
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:35,540
lines.

1162
01:35:36,380 --> 01:35:39,440
I'm not sure that I'm answering your question directly, but I did want to stress that

1163
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:44,080
this is one of those six categories that has spelled out that it's eligible for.

1164
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:46,380
Yeah, I did.

1165
01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:48,160
And this will be, I think, had some comments.

1166
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:55,640
I do just if, on page 40 of the staff report in middle of the page, the infrastructure expense

1167
01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:02,260
category is shown there and the subcategory 5.6, clean water, corn, storm water.

1168
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:07,580
So it's clearly stated as a valid public health aspects.

1169
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:15,280
Okay, and then I think my final comments were relating to equity and just like kind of looking

1170
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:16,940
at our city as a whole.

1171
01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:22,300
Do we have an idea of where most of these improvements are going to be occurring with this

1172
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:24,280
about 13.5 million?

1173
01:36:25,580 --> 01:36:30,780
Yeah, so the recommendation is to address the pipe condition

1174
01:36:30,780 --> 01:36:34,480
that are deteriorating primarily corrugated metal pipes,

1175
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,560
primarily located in the public right away

1176
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,040
and under our public streets.

1177
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:39,600
They're spread throughout the city,

1178
01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:42,360
but the majority of them, at least the major sections

1179
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,200
are in the older part of the city,

1180
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,700
the northern section, I'd say, north of the 78,

1181
01:36:47,480 --> 01:36:50,940
in the areas that were developed in the 60, 70, 80s timeframe.

1182
01:36:51,620 --> 01:36:58,500
But the objective here is to replace or to line those corrugated metal pipes, those are the pipes that are deteriorating.

1183
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:06,880
That's where we're finding the sinkholes and the failures, and to line them under our public right-of-way areas not to get into private property.

1184
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,080
Okay. I understand. Thank you.

1185
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:18,000
And Mr. I just like it at Mr. Conley, the goal would be to video those pipes first and find out where

1186
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:24,840
they're the most deteriorated pipes occur and take care of those immediately. Correct. Right. So we have an analysis

1187
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:30,720
of where they all are located. The first step would be evaluating condition and then coming back with a

1188
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:34,380
project, either line or cut and cover replace the pipes.

1189
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:38,800
Customers are Franklin.

1190
01:37:39,900 --> 01:37:46,080
So, we learned in the last couple of years about corrugated metal pipe, some of our residents

1191
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:52,280
unfortunately live in subdivisions that were developed with corrugated metal pipe and unfortunately

1192
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:57,500
a lot of them own that infrastructure underneath their homes, but what we learned is that in

1193
01:37:57,500 --> 01:38:02,160
the last 20 or so years we don't allow people, maybe it's 30 or 40 years we don't allow people

1194
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:08,620
to use corrugated metal pipe anymore because it tends to rust out and 50 years later we're looking

1195
01:38:08,620 --> 01:38:16,120
major replacement costs. So what you said is really important. The newer parts of our city

1196
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:21,520
have concrete storm water pipes. So this is going to primarily benefit those parts of the community.

1197
01:38:22,900 --> 01:38:27,980
And I'm guessing what's the plan? I mean if we're cutting a trench white enough to replace one of

1198
01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:31,680
these storm ramp pipes, we're basically putting a new surface on that street. Is that right?

1199
01:38:32,660 --> 01:38:38,080
In most situations, we'll probably be lining the pipes where we can. So we won't have to cut the

1200
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:44,240
situations where there's not an ability to line, yes, we'll cut the street and replace the pipe and repeat it.

1201
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:45,120
Got it.

1202
01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:54,420
So the other thing about this program is staff clearly looked at where the biggest opportunity for a definite future cost for the city.

1203
01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:07,640
And we've, you know, by using these funds to finance a definite future cost, we're also reserving these funds for this council or a future council to spend

1204
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:12,600
on other priorities as we have an opportunity to discuss and create them as a council.

1205
01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:18,760
So I think this is a really smart use of the funds and I would make a motion to approve item five.

1206
01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:24,710
Yeah, I have a motion. Who is that? The second. It was a council of contours. Okay.

1207
01:39:25,010 --> 01:39:27,450
I have a motion. The second. Please cast your votes on that.

1208
01:39:32,980 --> 01:39:39,760
That motion passes unanimously. That takes us to our next number, which is number six.

1209
01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:42,200
And that is Council Member Contreras.

1210
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,540
That is the money vista, the brain channel.

1211
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,100
So this is a money mar, drink.

1212
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:46,840
I'm a money mar.

1213
01:39:46,940 --> 01:39:47,500
Yeah, no problem.

1214
01:39:47,900 --> 01:39:48,760
I knew what you meant.

1215
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:50,640
I forgot my glasses tonight.

1216
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,080
And if we have any technical questions,

1217
01:39:53,340 --> 01:39:55,800
we have our public workstractor, Kunimutisami,

1218
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,880
here that can help answer those.

1219
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,940
Sure, you know, with I-

1220
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:27,180
Number 5 and 6, excuse me, 6 and 7, I just want for the public to hear a little bit more about why we're spending it on this particular type of infrastructure improvement. I'm not against it, but because this is so much money on the table, I want to be able to tell the community, hey, this is exactly why we chose these items.

1221
01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:31,220
So for number six, what we're talking about now in number seven,

1222
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,820
I would just like a little bit more information from staff.

1223
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,320
So we have it in the public record.

1224
01:40:36,900 --> 01:40:37,020
Thanks.

1225
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:40,980
If you look at item six, you know,

1226
01:40:41,140 --> 01:40:42,660
for Monti-Made, the Drain Channel.

1227
01:40:42,780 --> 01:40:44,440
It's an open channel now.

1228
01:40:45,420 --> 01:40:50,660
If you look at the sites and also the bottom of the channel,

1229
01:40:50,820 --> 01:40:54,900
it has begun to collapse on the south side of the mobile homes.

1230
01:40:54,900 --> 01:41:05,560
So, I have met the members of the mobile home in a community, but two years ago, and there were

1231
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:10,840
questions of our plans to address the issue.

1232
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,740
As we look at all the recent developments in the area,

1233
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:21,250
our plan now is to pipe the channel

1234
01:41:21,250 --> 01:41:26,770
and then also to build a site work on top of the dirt, you know, that will clean up the

1235
01:41:26,770 --> 01:41:33,610
area and then also it will protect the residents and the community in the area.

1236
01:41:35,110 --> 01:41:38,070
It's the same for items 7,

1237
01:41:40,990 --> 01:41:45,330
which is in West Westerway so it's on the not site of the

1238
01:41:45,330 --> 01:41:49,090
street that is the only section which is an open channel.

1239
01:41:50,130 --> 01:41:58,690
So the idea is to pipe that section and then put dirt on it and then also in future when

1240
01:41:58,690 --> 01:42:05,990
funds we would like to put aside well and then also put trees and that will increase the safety

1241
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:07,390
of the road users.

1242
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:14,970
Well I really appreciate that and I think it really just highlights and illuminates

1243
01:42:14,970 --> 01:42:28,590
to the public why we're utilizing ARPA funds on some of this infrastructure. It's crucial and it's

1244
01:42:29,950 --> 01:42:40,550
So I really appreciate you kind of just walking us through, I am five and six and seven, right?

1245
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:44,030
There's so many, six and seven.

1246
01:42:44,890 --> 01:42:45,870
Thank you.

1247
01:42:46,350 --> 01:42:48,430
And I let you know that on the month, you know,

1248
01:42:48,530 --> 01:42:52,230
I met with that mobile park for years, several years and years,

1249
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:55,110
and we've never had really the money to, and they're worried that their walls

1250
01:42:55,110 --> 01:43:00,010
going to fall in, they worry about it all the time I get calls like leave once a year and then

1251
01:43:00,010 --> 01:43:04,630
I meet with them and I tell them oh yeah we're working on it so this is the we

1252
01:43:04,630 --> 01:43:08,350
have had the money to do it so yeah I'm so grateful for them and they'll be so excited to hear

1253
01:43:08,350 --> 01:43:14,370
that so so is that I see customer Franklin does that year I was just going to make a motion

1254
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:24,290
to approve item six and seven oh I'll second that how about that did you want to do it okay

1255
01:43:24,290 --> 01:43:25,670
Please catch your votes.

1256
01:43:34,220 --> 01:43:38,200
Okay, that may have some motion passes unanimously, and that takes us to item.

1257
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:46,560
Mayer, if we could, because a number of the items involved are economic development director, Kevin Hammeth.

1258
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:55,260
If we could jump to item C11, and then we will go to C16, and then we will finish it out with economic development.

1259
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:01,800
And I think that would make the flow easier from having Mr. Ham sit down and go up a few

1260
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:02,540
different times.

1261
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:05,840
My message up, my pro thing I'm doing here.

1262
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:06,780
So where am I going?

1263
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,200
Now, it's been Franklin.

1264
01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:09,360
It was that.

1265
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,280
Sorry, I wanted, I really want to spend much more so good.

1266
01:44:13,900 --> 01:44:17,640
I would like to have a full discussion about this program.

1267
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:23,980
I think probably I'm going to guess that we all agree that we want to do this, but I think

1268
01:44:23,980 --> 01:44:25,500
We're going to all have a lot of questions.

1269
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,700
And I want to have a full discussion about this.

1270
01:44:27,740 --> 01:44:30,020
So I'd like it to come back at our next council meeting

1271
01:44:30,020 --> 01:44:32,000
when we could all really dive in, so I'd do better,

1272
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:34,460
without being pressed, where we have 23 items to vote.

1273
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:35,580
So that's fine.

1274
01:44:35,580 --> 01:44:37,280
And that's fine if that's the direction of the council.

1275
01:44:37,420 --> 01:44:37,900
No problem.

1276
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:41,320
I just wanted to move to see 11 and then come back

1277
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,180
to those items for your discussion.

1278
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,340
But I would make a motion that we would approve item eight

1279
01:44:46,340 --> 01:44:48,520
and direct staff to bring a full discussion

1280
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:53,200
to approve the final ordinance governing the expenditure

1281
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:59,960
those funds before us at the next practical meeting, would I would say, would you like to hear what staff have?

1282
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:16,500
That's the say tonight. And then give us that direction. I really do not want to be pressed to make decisions about this. I want to have the full discussion and not include such a major program that we're all going to have a lot to say about in such a large laundry list of items.

1283
01:45:17,060 --> 01:45:20,980
But that's just my personal preference. If there's not a second to the motion, then I'll rub it.

1284
01:45:23,330 --> 01:45:25,070
Well, you're done.

1285
01:45:25,530 --> 01:45:32,190
Okay, so what if we could go to item C11, provide Wi-Fi and downtown and all attempt to take this

1286
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:35,050
Deputy Mayor Green, I know that you would pull this item.

1287
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:43,600
You know, I just wanted to break down the importance of needing Wi-Fi and downtown, actually,

1288
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,160
and having the community that's in that area actually, some of them don't have access to Wi-Fi.

1289
01:45:48,440 --> 01:45:50,140
So, I think this is a great expenditure of funds.

1290
01:45:50,380 --> 01:45:54,620
I also wanted to see once we allocate these funds, what's the time frame for when it will be

1291
01:45:54,620 --> 01:45:57,900
and running and how will our residents actually be able to access it

1292
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:00,760
where they'll be like a password or something or is it just supposed to be like a

1293
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:05,180
just click on and you live in like you know what I appreciate you pulling this

1294
01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:09,380
because this is actually a really good partnership with the school district

1295
01:46:10,500 --> 01:46:16,420
VUSD where VUSD is going to outfit a number of sites throughout the community for

1296
01:46:16,420 --> 01:46:24,680
Wi-Fi, Vista High School, Luz-Dran, Linda Rhodes Center, as well as Vista Magnet Middle School.

1297
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:31,500
And part of the conversations, they lack the ability to get Fiber to Luz-Dran Park.

1298
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,700
So what we're going to do with this money is we'll install Fiber to Luz-Dran Park to give

1299
01:46:35,700 --> 01:46:41,440
them access, and in turn they're going to provide Wi-Fi from Vista Magnet Middle School

1300
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:47,860
when the connection is all made and it'll go out to the entire downtown and the other good

1301
01:46:47,860 --> 01:46:53,680
part of this is that VUSD will run that Wi-Fi network because we don't run Wi-Fi networks

1302
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:59,220
and so that's a big benefit to us. They have gone out with an RFP already. I think they may

1303
01:46:59,220 --> 01:47:03,180
have selected a contractor. I might be mistaken, but it's very close and then they're going

1304
01:47:03,180 --> 01:47:10,300
to start that work. We will go ahead with Council approval and start the fiber connection to

1305
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:14,700
park so there's no hold up on on our behalf for them.

1306
01:47:16,700 --> 01:47:17,820
Is that enough information on that?

1307
01:47:17,980 --> 01:47:19,140
I hope I have to see a lot of speakers.

1308
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,920
Councilman Franklin is your name on this one too or is that possible?

1309
01:47:22,740 --> 01:47:26,980
I think it's a great project, great partnership with the schools and I think this one directly

1310
01:47:26,980 --> 01:47:28,580
speaks to the question of equity.

1311
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,000
So I would move approval of item 11.

1312
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,080
Councilman of Contreras.

1313
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:36,700
I have to 100% agree with Councilmember Franklin.

1314
01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:43,600
And this is so exciting, and it is exactly the type of partnership that the community expects

1315
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:48,480
and requires of the city and also of this unified school district.

1316
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,780
So I think it's a win-win, and I just want to throw it out there.

1317
01:47:54,620 --> 01:47:57,600
This is part of our vets, right?

1318
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,560
Our vista economic development strategy.

1319
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,880
So here we are, I think that was like years out, maybe.

1320
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:09,200
I can't remember where it was in the list, but we have funding now and a great partner

1321
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,660
with the U.S.D. and we're going to get this done.

1322
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,860
It's going to be huge for the downtown and I'm excited.

1323
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:22,360
I'm really excited for it to go up because we have co-working, we have a lot of people meeting

1324
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:27,320
up downtown, so many people from all different parts of the city go there.

1325
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:28,880
It definitely speaks to equity,

1326
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,720
and it's, I hope we have like a ribbon cutting for it.

1327
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,920
It would be really awesome, all right, thanks.

1328
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,660
You know, it's so exciting that we have this money to do some of these projects that were

1329
01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:47,280
way far out, you know, that, I mean, truly, I'm grateful for that.

1330
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:48,840
So, Cosmo Ramolendez.

1331
01:48:49,540 --> 01:48:50,380
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1332
01:48:50,940 --> 01:48:54,180
I, too, am supportive of this item.

1333
01:48:54,180 --> 01:49:06,000
I just had a question for staff because this, I believe, will be very successful, are there other locations in the city that staff is considering appropriate for public Wi-Fi?

1334
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:16,240
So, the one that we've talked about for probably the last, I'm looking at Mr. Ham 15 years to have a stable Wi-Fi is downtown.

1335
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,240
We have not been researching other areas.

1336
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:25,060
I know VUSD is looking at the park sites where kids can congregate and get the Wi-Fi for free.

1337
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,120
But as a city, we have not looked into anything other than downtown.

1338
01:49:30,180 --> 01:49:31,140
Just thought I would ask.

1339
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,480
I'm really excited about this one as well.

1340
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:35,920
And I'll second that.

1341
01:49:36,380 --> 01:49:36,740
Super.

1342
01:49:38,060 --> 01:49:39,320
So please catch your votes.

1343
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,440
The motion passes unanimously.

1344
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:52,460
So now we're going to see 16, which is the financial literacy program.

1345
01:49:52,460 --> 01:49:59,740
and we have Ms. Maddali, our Assistant City Manager, and she can provide information, technical information.

1346
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:10,800
The council may have, and then we're going to go back and we're going to go back and we'll do economic development and then Kevin Hamm won't be able to leave that to you.

1347
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,320
That's missing up my schedule.

1348
01:50:12,620 --> 01:50:15,280
I know, missing everything up.

1349
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,460
But it's okay. We can do it.

1350
01:50:20,330 --> 01:50:23,810
So, council member contraris, I think you were the first to pull this item.

1351
01:50:25,450 --> 01:50:31,830
Yes, I pulled this item, not because I don't believe in financial literacy programs, but

1352
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:41,030
however, $174,600 is a significant amount of money that, you know, I think we can do

1353
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:49,690
a pilot program for a year, you know, $43 to $50,000 to see how it's going, how many

1354
01:50:49,690 --> 01:51:01,570
We're able to participate in the rest of that money that we're allocating to number 16 financial literacy programs.

1355
01:51:01,870 --> 01:51:04,670
You know, could that go to other food programs?

1356
01:51:04,850 --> 01:51:07,310
Could that go to rent mortgage and utility aid?

1357
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:09,530
Could that go to eviction prevention?

1358
01:51:09,710 --> 01:51:17,410
Could that go to aid to high poverty districts or social emotional and mental health services or child care?

1359
01:51:17,410 --> 01:51:32,950
So I just think it's a really large sum to provide towards a pilot program that we don't know how many people are going to be positively impacted.

1360
01:51:33,190 --> 01:51:40,250
I'm sure everybody that goes and is able to do this program will have a benefit.

1361
01:51:40,930 --> 01:51:45,670
But as a percentage of distance, I just don't know.

1362
01:51:45,670 --> 01:52:00,010
So I would also like for my co-worker Amanda to be able to break down how we even get $174,000.

1363
01:52:00,670 --> 01:52:03,690
Sure, thank you for having me.

1364
01:52:03,690 --> 01:52:19,430
It's $3,600 a month for workshops and that would be one workshop plus an additional hour for one on one time with the person who's running the financial literacy program.

1365
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:25,650
So those would be held on a monthly basis with that additional hour to do those one on one for four years.

1366
01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:32,830
And then that also gives an additional 12, one-on-one hour, 12, one-hour sessions of one-on-one

1367
01:52:32,830 --> 01:52:33,370
as well.

1368
01:52:33,590 --> 01:52:38,850
So if people need additional, to go through a preassessment post-assessment, on a one-on-one

1369
01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:40,910
basis, supposed to do it in a group setting.

1370
01:52:41,730 --> 01:52:50,670
So you're getting 12 a year, for four years, plus also 12, one-on-one sessions, plus an

1371
01:52:50,670 --> 01:52:54,030
additional 12, one-on-one sessions as well, 12 for every year.

1372
01:52:54,030 --> 01:53:05,010
And do we have an idea based on this program run in other capacities about how many individuals

1373
01:53:05,010 --> 01:53:07,190
participate, per session?

1374
01:53:08,130 --> 01:53:12,950
So for a city to run a financial literacy program, it's not something that's done a lot.

1375
01:53:13,330 --> 01:53:17,150
So normally it's done through various financial agencies.

1376
01:53:17,810 --> 01:53:22,170
It's also done through, we were connected through our affordable housing developers

1377
01:53:22,170 --> 01:53:27,710
because they run financial literacy programs and that's who we got connected with and then

1378
01:53:27,710 --> 01:53:34,250
they connected us with someone who runs it in the field as well. So in those affordable housing

1379
01:53:34,250 --> 01:53:39,910
developments a lot of people, I mean there's a high rates and success of people coming from

1380
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:44,770
all levels. So financial well-being is just kind of meeting you where you're at, whereas whether

1381
01:53:44,770 --> 01:53:49,390
if it's you're not able to make day-to-day and now you're able to actually make month-month

1382
01:53:49,390 --> 01:53:53,510
opposed to day-to-day. It's kind of meeting where you're at to gain to a point where you're actually

1383
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:58,070
having well-being and being able to do things that you enjoy. It's not necessarily always

1384
01:53:58,070 --> 01:54:02,850
buying the house or buying the cards, kind of just getting to more of a stability level. It's

1385
01:54:02,850 --> 01:54:11,470
would be more targeted for more of our economically vulnerable communities that don't qualify for

1386
01:54:11,470 --> 01:54:16,570
affordable housing, but need those resources available. It is a program that we've talked about

1387
01:54:16,570 --> 01:54:20,270
sometimes through the homeless strategic plan of providing opportunities.

1388
01:54:20,990 --> 01:54:26,410
So that's why staff kind of looked at this and really kind of wanted to develop a plan that was a little bit more robust

1389
01:54:26,410 --> 01:54:32,130
and can kind of mean all the needs of the community without using funding that's restricted for income,

1390
01:54:32,330 --> 01:54:39,270
but more funding. So if you are more, if you don't aren't local income, but you're still struggling on a day-to-day basis,

1391
01:54:39,290 --> 01:54:41,410
you'd be able to also have access to those wellbeing.

1392
01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:46,710
Okay, yeah, just clarify this funding is for four years.

1393
01:54:46,970 --> 01:54:47,670
Or yes, yes.

1394
01:54:47,790 --> 01:54:49,910
As you said, about $43,000 a year.

1395
01:54:49,910 --> 01:54:53,170
$43,000 a year and that includes one workshop,

1396
01:54:53,470 --> 01:54:56,070
plus one additional hour for that one on one focus.

1397
01:54:56,610 --> 01:54:58,270
And that could be someone could take 15 minutes.

1398
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:59,810
It can be back to back for those hours.

1399
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:26,080
Okay, yeah, and one of my concerns is right, there's a high utilization rate for someone in like community housing works, right, someone in affordable housing, right, because you have that structure already into connect this program to the people is like a clear connection.

1400
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:35,220
So one of my concerns is just, you know, do we have to then allocate more money for marketing this or is that part of the 174,000?

1401
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:44,420
You know, it's a lot of money to allocate on a pilot program that is decentralized from its original model.

1402
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:50,080
So those are some of my concerns. I'd like to hear from my colleagues.

1403
01:55:52,440 --> 01:56:13,220
Thank you, Madam Mayor, and thank you so much Amanda for your explanation, and you actually answered some of my questions, so first question was going to be, what's the target audience of financial literacy program and you expressed it would be for those who are economically vulnerable, you know, to get individuals to a place where they are able to have greater well-being.

1404
01:56:13,220 --> 01:56:22,320
So I'm very favorable towards these kinds of programs in my experience providing social work

1405
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:23,860
and case management services.

1406
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:31,300
I conducted financial literacy one on one with our program participants.

1407
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:42,220
And I'll give some feedback that ends up being very, you know, it's kind of like you have to have the experience to understand

1408
01:56:42,220 --> 01:56:47,980
so that's why I want to share it. But when you're working with an individual who really has very

1409
01:56:47,980 --> 01:56:53,920
little to go off of, they may not have employment, maybe the only sorts of income that they have

1410
01:56:53,920 --> 01:57:00,760
at the time is EBT or food stamps, right? You're dealing with, you're working and partnering with

1411
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:09,140
an individual who has a severe economic disparities at the moment. And just using financial literacy

1412
01:57:09,140 --> 01:57:17,440
coaching on its own may not be sufficient programming to get someone to that place.

1413
01:57:17,580 --> 01:57:21,760
I understand that there's, you know, models that are more effective than others, but

1414
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:27,020
from my experience, right, when somebody's working with a very, very minimal budget, doing financial

1415
01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:35,120
literacy, it can be, cause a lot of barriers to actually accomplishing that goal of greater

1416
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:35,580
all being.

1417
01:57:36,260 --> 01:57:40,020
So, something that I think could be effective and if it's possible to include in a financial

1418
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:45,860
literacy program is including financial assistance funding or flex funding for the individuals

1419
01:57:45,860 --> 01:57:46,860
that are in the program.

1420
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,900
The reason for that is the stability, right?

1421
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:55,180
Things like rental assistance, utility assistance, you know, teaching individuals to how to

1422
01:57:55,180 --> 01:58:00,040
manage their money, but also understanding that if someone's coming from a position of not

1423
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,720
having a sufficient funds in order to live,

1424
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,660
that having those flex funds can get them to a point

1425
01:58:07,660 --> 01:58:10,540
where they're actually able to start making stable decisions.

1426
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:13,480
I just like it could be used for things like business

1427
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:14,620
attire, right?

1428
01:58:14,620 --> 01:58:16,660
And prepping for interviews and stuff like that.

1429
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,220
So I think that, you know, while I am cautionary

1430
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:24,760
of coming into saying yes to a new program

1431
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,040
that we haven't seen, you know,

1432
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:33,040
complicated in the city before, if we want to do it successfully, I would recommend including

1433
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:38,580
some sort of flex funding, or, you know, we do have flex funding with our social worker

1434
01:58:38,580 --> 01:58:46,260
that works for the city through some of our other city programs. If there could be a pipeline

1435
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:54,740
of, you know, from that program to being able to receive flex funding for assistance for, like I said,

1436
01:58:54,740 --> 01:59:01,460
utilities, things like business attire, things that would create opportunities for someone

1437
01:59:01,460 --> 01:59:05,820
to accomplish that well-being and stability, and then also be able to maintain it with

1438
01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:09,980
that financial literacy. I think would be one of the best ways to structure that kind

1439
01:59:09,980 --> 01:59:14,980
of program. So that's my feedback. Other than that, I mean, I'm very supportive of financial

1440
01:59:14,980 --> 01:59:20,640
literacy programs, but without flex funding, they kind of are a slap in the face of

1441
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:25,240
and poverty and we're just going to say that and yeah it's really hard to for someone to

1442
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:31,000
budget with zero zero money and zero leg up. But I've seen a lot of success come from using

1443
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:36,780
flux funding wisely and using them in tandem with the financial literacy program. That's all

1444
01:59:36,780 --> 01:59:38,200
I have to say.

1445
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:39,960
It kills me with Franklin.

1446
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:45,780
So what would our ability be after say the first year of a four year program to repurpose

1447
01:59:45,780 --> 01:59:51,900
a reprogram funding if we felt like the program wasn't all received or wasn't successful

1448
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:54,660
and getting enough people to come and participate.

1449
01:59:55,780 --> 01:59:57,660
Yeah, that's an ARPA hit.

1450
01:59:58,860 --> 01:59:59,020
Yeah.

1451
01:59:59,020 --> 01:59:59,820
Yeah, as I said earlier.

1452
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,500
This is likely going to be a living document, and we have some premiums built into these estimates, especially the infrastructure ones, because not only is the city a vista considering major infrastructure projects with this funding, every city, counties, the state, everyone is going to be going to market at the same time, so we're expecting premium pricing from contractors who do the work. It's simple economics in that regard.

1453
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:37,140
as a staff, we fully expect if things aren't working, we're going to need to reprogram them

1454
02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:43,500
for sure. So if we wanted to take your fours program expense and convert that into marketing

1455
02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:46,400
funds for years two and three, that's something that we could do.

1456
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:52,740
As far as I know to this point, yes, I've yet to see really clear guidance from Treasury

1457
02:00:52,740 --> 02:00:59,100
quite yet on how folks or agencies are going to amend their plans, but you can't create a

1458
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:04,760
a year plan and have it be completely inflexible. So I'm going on out on a bit of a limb

1459
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:11,780
there, but I don't see how it would be possible to go. This is what these 23 things

1460
02:01:11,780 --> 02:01:15,460
are going to be locked into and not be able to amend it.

1461
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:21,220
Very similar to the care funding we could file amendments and things like that. So I think this

1462
02:01:21,220 --> 02:01:27,760
is a really important program. They don't teach you in high school how to create a family budget.

1463
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:35,160
They don't teach you how to balance a checkbook or how to manage credit cards and some basic financial literacy

1464
02:01:35,940 --> 02:01:40,940
Education I didn't acquire myself to those in my 20s and 30s a lot of the things that I learned about

1465
02:01:41,660 --> 02:01:47,160
You know my own finances or self-taught and they came at the great expense of hard

1466
02:01:48,340 --> 02:01:53,560
Lessons and I really wish that I would have had the benefit of going through something like this

1467
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:57,180
decade or two earlier in my life would have been great help to me.

1468
02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:01,820
I think this is the kind of knowledge that can change the trajectory of people's lives.

1469
02:02:02,540 --> 02:02:08,000
This is the kind of thing that doesn't address the symptoms of poverty,

1470
02:02:09,140 --> 02:02:11,240
but really it gets at some of the root causes.

1471
02:02:12,900 --> 02:02:17,580
And the reality is that whatever somebody circumstances

1472
02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:25,980
are means budgeting is important and learning to manage credit and learning to access the financial

1473
02:02:25,980 --> 02:02:32,060
system. These are life skills that are going to be great value to the individuals who have

1474
02:02:32,060 --> 02:02:36,420
the opportunity to participate. I look forward to attending one of these courses to learn

1475
02:02:36,420 --> 02:02:41,480
more myself and to see the benefit that has provided the community. So with that I would move

1476
02:02:44,330 --> 02:02:50,410
the

1477
02:02:51,660 --> 02:02:53,960
So yeah, I love the idea of this program.

1478
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,440
I feel like this is just kind of one tool in our toolbox

1479
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:58,780
to kind of help our community out as a council.

1480
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,360
We've been real fiscal responsible with allocating funds

1481
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,520
for housing assistance and homelessness prevention.

1482
02:03:05,140 --> 02:03:07,120
And there are a lot of tools for this.

1483
02:03:07,220 --> 02:03:10,700
So I feel like the person who helps allocate this financial literacy

1484
02:03:10,700 --> 02:03:14,140
plan will be connected to all the other resources of the city.

1485
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,920
And like you say, you can't do too much.

1486
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,120
And I should have all the tools in your toolbox.

1487
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,280
So I feel like this is one tool that we use.

1488
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,880
And I love that it's $40,000 annually.

1489
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,260
I think that is a reasonable fee.

1490
02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:27,120
And the fact that we can reallocate the funds

1491
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:28,700
in some other way if it's not effective

1492
02:03:28,700 --> 02:03:30,620
is definitely something that's awesome.

1493
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:32,700
And kind of like Councilman Franklin said,

1494
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:35,120
you know, I'm in my almost mid 40s now.

1495
02:03:35,460 --> 02:03:37,520
And they did have consumer math in school

1496
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:39,980
when I wasn't school, but I know these days they don't.

1497
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,820
And I run into it all the time with people not knowing

1498
02:03:42,820 --> 02:03:45,620
what the effects of credit are and how you save money

1499
02:03:45,620 --> 02:03:47,600
and what debt income ratios are

1500
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:49,640
and how that affects your purchasing ability

1501
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:54,960
and things. So I think this is a really good thing that we're doing as a city and I love that

1502
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,340
there's not other cities that do things like this. I want to be at the tip of the spear. I want

1503
02:03:59,340 --> 02:04:03,020
to be a city that tries new things. I want to be a city that other cities look at and go like,

1504
02:04:03,420 --> 02:04:08,900
hey, Vista did that and they did great and their city loves them for it. We should do it as well. So

1505
02:04:08,900 --> 02:04:13,500
come up and coming up with new innovative ideas to help our community is amazing. So with that,

1506
02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:19,540
I will second the motion to approve this item number. Okay, and I agree on this.

1507
02:04:19,540 --> 02:04:25,700
I'm also, I agree with both of you at Deputy Mayor and Council Member Franklin, because the kids, I had

1508
02:04:25,700 --> 02:04:30,460
Grandkids that came out that didn't, was trying to write a check, I don't want to say that could I embarrass them.

1509
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,100
Didn't know how to write a check coming out of school.

1510
02:04:33,740 --> 02:04:36,480
You know, I mean, the kids really need training.

1511
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:37,240
People need training.

1512
02:04:37,900 --> 02:04:39,460
People get into their 20s and don't know.

1513
02:04:39,660 --> 02:04:42,260
And I actually didn't know that either until I got older.

1514
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:44,660
You know, this is really an important thing.

1515
02:04:44,660 --> 02:04:49,180
I think I should back in high school, but if we can help people through that, I think that's important.

1516
02:04:49,180 --> 02:04:52,760
So I think Councilor Contreras wanted to say something.

1517
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:59,960
Awesome, yeah. I like that we have flexibility because we definitely don't want to be paid.

1518
02:05:06,100 --> 02:05:28,280
So, I think it's good. I want to make sure that we are able to review this as a council, but I do have a question because I think council member Melendez brought up a really good point about having flex funding. And I know, at one point, we had allocated money to help with utilities. What's the situation in the state of those funds at this point?

1519
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:34,700
And if there are funds available, I think this is a great way to be able to, like Deputy

1520
02:05:34,700 --> 02:05:40,520
Mayor Green said, right, the person who is the consultant, you know, we can make sure

1521
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:41,460
that they're connected.

1522
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:48,760
So if you run into an individual who, hey, you know what, let utility bill was really high,

1523
02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:54,540
there's a water break or something like that and they need a little bit of help, you know,

1524
02:05:54,660 --> 02:05:57,960
we can then have a direct connection to some of those funds.

1525
02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:01,280
So I just have a question about where we're at there.

1526
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:09,280
Yeah, so originally we had a rental and utility assistance program and then we unallocated

1527
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:14,380
those funds and because we reallocated them to other projects and that was because the

1528
02:06:14,380 --> 02:06:19,520
county has funding and it was an amount of funding that they received actually from the

1529
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:25,280
treasury and the first they only paid 80% of people's rent and made someone else pay

1530
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:30,500
extra 20 but because they have so much money and it's not being utilized they're now going back

1531
02:06:30,500 --> 02:06:36,320
12 months and you only never went at 100%. So there's it's flush was cash right now.

1532
02:06:37,900 --> 02:06:42,340
When we receive when we get a customer calling in because they can't pay their ad co-bill we

1533
02:06:42,340 --> 02:06:46,220
refer them immediately to the county and tell them hey there's this utility assistance program

1534
02:06:46,220 --> 02:06:51,420
there's requirements you do have to it's like CDBG where you have to be lower than 80% AMI

1535
02:06:51,420 --> 02:06:54,360
But we definitely use that as a resource.

1536
02:06:54,980 --> 02:06:59,520
We will definitely advise whoever comes in of all the resources that are available.

1537
02:07:00,180 --> 02:07:04,780
Speaking to Council Member Melinda, we also still have our homelessness prevention program.

1538
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:06,380
So that's also still available.

1539
02:07:06,940 --> 02:07:09,040
And we do refer people to those programs as well.

1540
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:13,700
So if someone's and those would cover anything to make someone stable on the to their feet.

1541
02:07:14,300 --> 02:07:17,120
So those programs are definitely available to anybody.

1542
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:22,060
and especially we'll make sure that people are educated and the educators that you can.

1543
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:24,020
That is great, yeah.

1544
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:32,940
We definitely want to make sure that they're well-connected in that this information get to the individual utilizing this program.

1545
02:07:34,580 --> 02:07:35,320
I think that's great.

1546
02:07:35,820 --> 02:07:36,260
Thanks.

1547
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:41,540
Okay, we have a motion in a second on this item, so please cast your votes.

1548
02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:47,670
Motion passes unanimously.

1549
02:07:48,090 --> 02:07:48,570
Okay, slow.

1550
02:07:48,570 --> 02:07:49,690
What would you like to go through now?

1551
02:07:49,690 --> 02:07:55,190
Now, we're going to go back to C8 and the next six items involve our economic development

1552
02:07:55,190 --> 02:08:01,150
director Kevin Ham so he will address the next six items that were pulled by the city council.

1553
02:08:01,490 --> 02:08:09,530
So C8 was Franklin's and it was actually Deputy Mayor Franklin and Katie Melendez, right?

1554
02:08:09,690 --> 02:08:10,330
The grant program.

1555
02:08:10,490 --> 02:08:14,210
And Deputy Mayor Green for a grant program with Mr. Chamber to visit the businesses.

1556
02:08:14,490 --> 02:08:14,950
Yes, okay.

1557
02:08:15,450 --> 02:08:16,750
So, we'll start there.

1558
02:08:16,750 --> 02:08:20,630
But I think that Cosmo and Franklin wanted this to pull off, right?

1559
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:21,530
Yes.

1560
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:22,270
So we'll start.

1561
02:08:22,370 --> 02:08:24,130
You give us a report and then we'll go from there.

1562
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:31,860
So as you know last year we talked about grants to businesses and we decided not to do that.

1563
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:39,420
Last year when we implemented programs was a bit of constructing an airplane while we were flying it.

1564
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:41,400
And I think we did a pretty good job.

1565
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:45,980
This year we're putting in a few parts on the plane while we fly it.

1566
02:08:45,980 --> 02:08:50,720
This is one of them that we've actually taken the model of several other cities.

1567
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:55,460
The city of San Diego is implemented a grant program, the city of Escundito, the city of San

1568
02:08:55,460 --> 02:08:57,640
Marcos, and the city of Oceanside.

1569
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:03,380
So we've used that template that they have, the last one that was updated that we're aware of,

1570
02:09:03,460 --> 02:09:08,460
was the city of Oceanside, the Chamber of Commerce and Oceanside, the Main Street Program,

1571
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,960
the Council, the staff, the businesses there, we're very happy with that program.

1572
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:18,060
So essentially, we have taken that document, modified that document and are working with our

1573
02:09:18,060 --> 02:09:23,780
Chamber of Commerce to put the last details on it, but we have several different tiers for

1574
02:09:23,780 --> 02:09:29,240
independently owned businesses in our community, depending upon where they are in the process,

1575
02:09:29,820 --> 02:09:36,840
how big they are, the impacts that they've had, and I can go over that criteria for you if you

1576
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:42,520
like. But the idea is that this would take care of losses that they had during the pandemic and the

1577
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:47,560
impact they had. Also paying for and assisting them with future

1578
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:52,580
opportunities. So for example businesses may now understand that they

1579
02:09:52,580 --> 02:09:56,760
need to be better represented on the internet. So if they came to the

1580
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:59,940
chamber who would be administering this and we have the guidelines set out.

1581
02:10:00,050 --> 02:10:07,710
They could apply to create a website for their products and services. It could pay for or bring me and pay for employees.

1582
02:10:08,630 --> 02:10:15,050
Right now, many of our businesses are experiencing, especially restaurants and other businesses, a dearth of employees.

1583
02:10:15,490 --> 02:10:25,390
And so they could give those employees statements. This could also be used for child care for individuals and companies that need to support that specific need.

1584
02:10:25,390 --> 02:10:29,590
So, these are programs that we have essentially copied,

1585
02:10:30,210 --> 02:10:32,090
taken what we've seen as the best model,

1586
02:10:32,770 --> 02:10:35,450
working with the Chamber of Commerce on the last few details,

1587
02:10:35,770 --> 02:10:37,570
and we'd be implementing it with them.

1588
02:10:42,510 --> 02:10:45,690
So, okay. So, Council Member Melendez.

1589
02:10:46,690 --> 02:10:47,470
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1590
02:10:47,950 --> 02:10:50,930
Thank you, Mr. Ham, for describing a little bit an overview

1591
02:10:50,930 --> 02:10:52,610
of what these programs would look like.

1592
02:10:53,110 --> 02:10:59,530
I am also in favor of Council Member Franklin, suggestions to

1593
02:10:59,530 --> 02:11:03,790
bring this back for more thorough discussion that there is so much to go over.

1594
02:11:04,370 --> 02:11:10,470
One of the things I wanted to clarify just before we proceed or you know table it for another meeting,

1595
02:11:11,590 --> 02:11:19,730
is to see what opportunity these grant funds would go to providing rental assistance for businesses

1596
02:11:19,730 --> 02:11:24,310
that may be at risk of eviction in those retail spaces.

1597
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:33,150
I know that that has been a cause of closure or risk of closure for some of our businesses and I wanted to see what the eligibility was like.

1598
02:11:33,810 --> 02:11:35,970
Yeah, that is something that we can change.

1599
02:11:36,530 --> 02:11:46,230
As we've looked into the document, we actually have covered that with some businesses and we actually have them affirmative to clear several things.

1600
02:11:46,590 --> 02:11:52,230
One of them is that they're not in a rears and if they are in a rears that they make sure that they make up for that.

1601
02:11:52,230 --> 02:11:58,550
So we can clarify in this document that if the R&R Rears, this money would go to that first before any other activity.

1602
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:16,260
Okay, I do bring that up because, you know, it would be very concerning if we were to provide assistance for a business that, you know, because of a landlord-tenant relationship, you know, a lack of payment of rent, or any kind of issue like that.

1603
02:12:16,260 --> 02:12:22,480
We wouldn't actually be able to sustain the support that we're offering them with this grant because they would have to vacate that property

1604
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:28,300
So that's one of my concerns just making sure that's a sustainable model and at this point

1605
02:12:28,300 --> 02:12:32,600
Those are my only comments. Thank you. And Mr. Hammer, are you aware of other

1606
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:37,300
funding sources that are available to businesses that have rental assistance needs?

1607
02:12:39,300 --> 02:12:43,520
There are many grants out there. I can't think of one off the top of my head

1608
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:48,420
But there are the ones from the counties that we had in the past, the federal grants as well.

1609
02:12:49,340 --> 02:12:53,380
I have not heard of anyone currently, that is in need of those funds.

1610
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:57,020
They haven't contacted us, but I don't know of any current ones that they could use.

1611
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:58,520
Thank you.

1612
02:12:59,420 --> 02:12:59,640
Okay.

1613
02:12:59,780 --> 02:13:00,780
Council Member Contreras.

1614
02:13:02,780 --> 02:13:06,060
I hadn't thought about what Council Member Melinda said.

1615
02:13:06,060 --> 02:13:15,020
And even if, you know, we're not certain of what businesses need in that aspect of rental

1616
02:13:15,020 --> 02:13:19,840
assistance, I think it would be good to just have that in the document, just in case,

1617
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:21,500
as kind of a catch all.

1618
02:13:22,140 --> 02:13:24,680
I am super supportive of this program.

1619
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:32,160
I think it's a long time coming, and we're able now to utilize our ARPA funds to finally

1620
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:39,260
get some assistance in this way because I know we did assistance in different ways but this

1621
02:13:39,260 --> 02:13:47,480
is great and I support it. Even though this we're looking at for profit only as the way

1622
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:54,160
that the documents were in so I think my colleagues may have more to say about that. I am

1623
02:13:54,160 --> 02:14:03,360
favor of for-profits being able to utilize it. I don't know if it should be, you know, 50-50

1624
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:11,920
or how that needs to be structured. But I am open to that as well.

1625
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:13,740
Come on, Mr. Franklin.

1626
02:14:15,200 --> 02:14:21,220
Yeah, so again, I think we're all generally supportive of setting this amount of money aside

1627
02:14:21,220 --> 02:14:27,620
to understand, you have some planning and documentary needs to get a plan to the Treasury.

1628
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:33,360
For that reason, I'm suggesting and making a motion that we approve the item, but with

1629
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:39,220
the direction that Mr. Hamm brings back the details of how we're going to spend it

1630
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:45,580
for further approval from the Council and further input on what types of businesses and organizations

1631
02:14:46,300 --> 02:14:49,220
are authorized in the elements of the plan.

1632
02:14:49,220 --> 02:14:51,800
because right now we don't even have a detailed written plan in front of us.

1633
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:54,820
So I'm saying as I'd like that to come back before the council's so.

1634
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:58,560
I would make the motion to approve with the, with the, with the, with the kit's all caveat.

1635
02:14:59,360 --> 02:14:59,820
That the,

1636
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,660
The authorizing ordinance come back before council.

1637
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:05,600
Deputy Mayor Green.

1638
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:13,440
I love that and we'll second that prior to speaking because I think that is a fantastic idea before I forget.

1639
02:15:14,060 --> 02:15:16,080
I love the rental assistance for business owners.

1640
02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:21,060
The other thing that I'm concerned with in this program is the cap amount 15K.

1641
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:27,620
We have some businesses that they might be 15K behind in rent and still need a website and still need whatever.

1642
02:15:27,620 --> 02:15:34,000
So when you're talking about business expenses 15,000 dollars as much, I own an operate my own business and

1643
02:15:34,780 --> 02:15:38,760
That wouldn't get us through two months if it didn't happen and some other businesses

1644
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:42,600
Many more so I'd like you to tell me how you came up with that number possibly

1645
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:48,340
You know raise the number to find maybe 25,000 seems like a more reasonable number for a business

1646
02:15:48,340 --> 02:15:51,920
Obviously they have to give us a breakdown of what they would use it for in your

1647
02:15:51,920 --> 02:16:01,040
committee and the chamber who's going to be so diligent in allocating these funds would be kind of the police per se on that but I do want to make sure that

1648
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:02,780
We're giving a

1649
02:16:02,780 --> 02:16:07,360
Grant that is going to make a enough impact that they're truly going to be able to recover

1650
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:12,880
I'm not trying to get him back to you know, just barely getting by I want to make sure that we're really helping them

1651
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:20,140
And we're putting them on the path for success. So I don't know that I'm comfortable with capping at at $15,000 because some businesses have a

1652
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:26,580
more than any than that and $15,000 for $3 million worth of grants. That's a lot of grants.

1653
02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:32,520
So I think maybe we should look at adjusting that figure and when you bring it back for the

1654
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:38,280
council, maybe we can discuss that. But I do approve and second to motion made by council member

1655
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:43,200
frankly. I agree. Council member Franklin. Just before we vote, I'm going to be very interested

1656
02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:49,080
to hear what amount you're allotting of this funding to each website. I build a lot of websites.

1657
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:55,700
I've built them for free, for 500, for 10,000, for 25,000, and more, and a lot of the 25,000

1658
02:16:55,700 --> 02:16:58,680
on our websites then look any better than the 500 on our ones and the free ones.

1659
02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:04,560
So I'm curious what that all entails, so be ready to be drilled on that subject.

1660
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:07,800
Okay, so please cash your votes.

1661
02:17:14,170 --> 02:17:15,370
Motion passes unanimously.

1662
02:17:16,550 --> 02:17:18,570
So it all might go in back and order again, no?

1663
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:19,670
14.

1664
02:17:21,010 --> 02:17:22,470
I'm back on plan.

1665
02:17:22,470 --> 02:17:28,670
I'm reporting in this deputy mayor and hands-brand ambassador efforts.

1666
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:36,060
Yeah, I just kind of wanted to hear about that a little bit because I love VISTA and I'm always trying to enhance my VISTA brand.

1667
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:45,360
So if we're going to allocate $20,000, is there like a special, we're going to have a mascot, like, you know, a little VISTA sunshine, a little hummingbird flying around town or something like that.

1668
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:51,540
So it's just $20,000 that says I'm gonna enhance the brand and I'm gonna, you know, what

1669
02:17:51,540 --> 02:17:52,480
does that look like Kevin?

1670
02:17:52,700 --> 02:17:55,440
And if there's an interpretive dance that goes with it, there's something I am good

1671
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:55,980
to watch it.

1672
02:17:56,020 --> 02:17:56,420
Go answer.

1673
02:17:56,880 --> 02:17:59,000
I'll explain it, but I will not dance.

1674
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:05,720
So last year we enhanced our brand ambassador efforts and really all of us know the great news

1675
02:18:05,720 --> 02:18:08,980
about the businesses and our community and the decisions you all make.

1676
02:18:09,540 --> 02:18:12,480
And so sometimes that word just does not get out there.

1677
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:15,920
And so last year we had about $30,000 set aside.

1678
02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:18,360
This was one of the economic recovery programs.

1679
02:18:19,020 --> 02:18:21,220
It really allowed us to tell the story,

1680
02:18:21,500 --> 02:18:23,340
whether it was about sand and straw,

1681
02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:26,120
whether it was about what's made here in Vista,

1682
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:28,360
who makes those things in Vista,

1683
02:18:28,740 --> 02:18:32,120
milk organics was one of the last ones we're talking about

1684
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:34,580
in our next article about the hotels

1685
02:18:34,580 --> 02:18:36,560
and the impact they make in our community.

1686
02:18:37,140 --> 02:18:39,340
And so we had in the regular budget,

1687
02:18:39,420 --> 02:18:42,180
it was approved $12,000 set aside.

1688
02:18:42,180 --> 02:19:09,080
But I thought, really, when we're talking about this, and we've had so much success in telling the wonderful story we have, that really we wanted to add to those funds, and so this would give us a total of $32,000, and we're out in RFP right now, that would allow us to create two stories a month to get out to the media, and how those communicated by that person who is our brand ambassador, essentially our media consultant, to really communicate that great message.

1689
02:19:10,060 --> 02:19:15,880
I love that and as a kid who grew up in Vista, I didn't see us on the news a whole lot and it's

1690
02:19:15,880 --> 02:19:19,120
really cool to think that we want to get word out about Vista.

1691
02:19:19,380 --> 02:19:23,700
So I would love to turn on my five o'clock news and be like, hey, here's a story about best

1692
02:19:23,700 --> 02:19:29,980
pizza and brew, you know, here's a story about, you know, downtown and I, you know, theater or

1693
02:19:29,980 --> 02:19:30,240
whatever.

1694
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:31,820
So I think it's a great use of fun.

1695
02:19:31,900 --> 02:19:35,040
I think it's a great idea and I think it will help make Vista even more of a destination

1696
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:37,640
city than it already is, which the council has put a lot of work into.

1697
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:40,340
So thank you so much for clarification, and thanks for not dancing.

1698
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:41,720
And your motion?

1699
02:19:42,380 --> 02:19:42,900
Councillor Franck.

1700
02:19:43,580 --> 02:19:43,680
Councillor Franck.

1701
02:19:43,680 --> 02:19:44,380
Oh, he's going to make it.

1702
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:44,920
Councillor Franck.

1703
02:19:45,580 --> 02:19:48,000
And I'd like to move to approve this item as presented.

1704
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:48,820
Okay.

1705
02:19:49,220 --> 02:19:49,860
Councillor Franckland.

1706
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:56,940
You know, I always remind in conversations with the city's management that just because

1707
02:19:56,940 --> 02:19:59,940
we talked about something here and the council meeting doesn't mean the community knows about it.

1708
02:20:00,180 --> 02:20:06,600
So, I'm all about telling the story of the work that we're doing as a community. It's a very important and I second to motion.

1709
02:20:07,500 --> 02:20:10,880
Okay, so see no other speakers, please cast your votes.

1710
02:20:19,210 --> 02:20:32,210
Motion passes unanimously. That takes us to item number 18, which is training program for new entrepreneurs or aspiring entrepreneurs. That is Council Member Melendez.

1711
02:20:33,620 --> 02:20:36,460
Do you want an explanation on that or

1712
02:20:36,460 --> 02:20:37,120
some questions?

1713
02:20:37,380 --> 02:20:38,980
Yes, I would like a little bit more detail,

1714
02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:42,740
but specifically for 18 and then later for 21.

1715
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,800
I wanted to get a little bit more information regarding

1716
02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:52,600
that equity piece of how this program is going to be

1717
02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:54,840
addressing equity issues in the community

1718
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:59,320
and how the training program is going to be

1719
02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:05,700
specifically geared towards individuals who might benefit the most from it.

1720
02:21:06,940 --> 02:21:12,360
So this program, last year we put on several training programs with Strategies 360.

1721
02:21:12,860 --> 02:21:18,440
The gentleman that helped us put this on Sid Veracara has worked at the local and state level.

1722
02:21:18,740 --> 02:21:23,360
And so it's been great in working with him because he has a lot of connections with those individuals at the state

1723
02:21:23,360 --> 02:21:26,820
that really can bring resources to bear for our local community.

1724
02:21:26,820 --> 02:21:31,900
And so, we heard great things from our businesses about those training programs.

1725
02:21:32,820 --> 02:21:37,600
And so, this training program, well, let me take a step back, lots of folks in the last

1726
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:40,420
year had opportunities to move on and become entrepreneurs.

1727
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:45,380
And so, we have seen, I have seen, many businesses start up.

1728
02:21:45,660 --> 02:21:49,840
And so, seeing this need, we thought that this would be a great opportunity to work with

1729
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:54,860
these individuals to help them basically understand what are those things you need to do as an

1730
02:21:54,860 --> 02:21:58,740
entrepreneur. Where do you go to put together your business plan? How do you put together

1731
02:21:58,740 --> 02:22:03,200
your business plan? How do you use the Chamber of Commerce? How do you score? Use those

1732
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:09,660
industry experts to give them that expertise to do that. This cohort would have both an English

1733
02:22:09,660 --> 02:22:15,680
language and a Spanish language piece to it. So that's how it would meet the social equity piece.

1734
02:22:20,290 --> 02:22:24,210
Do you have any other questions? Okay, I'll call some over Franklin.

1735
02:22:24,210 --> 02:22:28,670
I just want to say that I love entrepreneurs and entrepreneurship.

1736
02:22:30,330 --> 02:22:32,670
I think it's a way that people change their lives.

1737
02:22:33,170 --> 02:22:38,130
It's also the core of our economy and this country and our community.

1738
02:22:39,330 --> 02:22:42,050
80% of Americans work for a small business center.

1739
02:22:43,210 --> 02:22:48,470
It's a great way to address social equity to help people achieve the American dream.

1740
02:22:48,470 --> 02:22:56,400
So I'm all about it, and I've moved that we approve item number 18.

1741
02:22:58,160 --> 02:22:59,700
Okay customer contraris.

1742
02:23:01,180 --> 02:23:03,680
Yeah, I think this is a great opportunity.

1743
02:23:03,940 --> 02:23:07,680
We have a lot of individuals that have side hustles, and they want to legitimize it,

1744
02:23:07,700 --> 02:23:09,480
and we want to get tax money from it.

1745
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:11,160
So it's a win-win.

1746
02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:17,160
What I'm curious about is how many workshops does 30,000 buy us?

1747
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:21,560
What does that break down to yearly or...

1748
02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:29,280
It just could be a four month program that would consist of about six different workshops over a period of that time.

1749
02:23:29,780 --> 02:23:31,900
It would also have some one-on-one assistance.

1750
02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:36,140
Should they need that assistance from the team at Strategy 360?

1751
02:23:36,140 --> 02:23:54,040
And the workshops would be, would they be individual topics or would there be, like, knowledge needed from the previous to continue and really get more out of the second meeting and then kind of like almost like a prerequisite.

1752
02:23:54,620 --> 02:23:55,240
What's the structure?

1753
02:23:55,240 --> 02:24:01,480
Yeah, so they would be separate programs, if you will, but the one on one assistance really would be

1754
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:10,800
provided to help them out if they needed to catch up to really connect to the next topic and maybe didn't really fully understand the last topic.

1755
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:21,860
We find that entrepreneurs really have a great idea a single font. They might be lacking somewhere else, so this really helps fill in that lacking, that skill lack that they might have.

1756
02:24:21,860 --> 02:24:29,280
Awesome, and this is like you said something that we started when we were being a little bit more creative as a city

1757
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:33,960
To addressing some of the economic impacts of COVID-19

1758
02:24:33,960 --> 02:24:43,220
So I think it's great that we're able to have this type of creativity and then we assess whether a program is working or not

1759
02:24:43,220 --> 02:24:46,780
And if it is, then we get to allocate more funding towards it

1760
02:24:46,780 --> 02:24:55,040
I think this is a great opportunity and I'm excited to see more businesses start up because of it.

1761
02:24:57,160 --> 02:24:58,740
I will second that motion.

1762
02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:34,480
This is one of the programs that we're implementing with the Chamber of Commerce. This comes out of the vista economic development

1763
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:40,320
strategy as well. Really looking at that entire workforce piece trying to better understand

1764
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:46,420
where those gaps exist in the workforce specifically for our VISTA businesses and specifically

1765
02:25:46,420 --> 02:25:50,620
for our VISTA residents. So where can we put those residents to work at those great companies

1766
02:25:50,620 --> 02:25:57,600
we have in our community and this one is focused on adults and can also be looked at as an

1767
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:02,720
opportunity for seniors to find out where they might be able to work and what opportunities might

1768
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:09,860
for them. I am really happy that you brought up seniors. This is a conversation that I had

1769
02:26:09,860 --> 02:26:15,800
with our city manager. You know, I was on a call. Oh my gosh, I don't even know when it was

1770
02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:23,360
so many Zoom meetings between now and in the past. But the Carl's Bad Senior Center,

1771
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:29,220
they had a representative and they said, you know what, we're actually seeing a lot of seniors

1772
02:26:29,220 --> 02:26:34,840
meaning to come back into the workforce and they're really struggling because it's just changed,

1773
02:26:34,900 --> 02:26:40,760
even just to be able to find a job, then to apply what if you don't have an email address,

1774
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:46,720
right, what if all these other factors and they were like, you know what we're going to be looking

1775
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:53,680
at having a job center at the senior center in order to connect our seniors with those job opportunities

1776
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:57,040
and have their skills upgraded, right?

1777
02:26:57,740 --> 02:27:00,620
So I'm really happy that you mentioned that

1778
02:27:00,620 --> 02:27:05,020
because I do think that when we think about workforce,

1779
02:27:05,660 --> 02:27:10,740
there's a lot of ageism and we need to be able to address that

1780
02:27:10,740 --> 02:27:14,880
and that's 100% part of looking at equity here in our community.

1781
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:23,500
So I would 100% be in favor of this and also of ensuring

1782
02:27:23,500 --> 02:27:26,440
that we are reaching out to our senior population as well.

1783
02:27:28,580 --> 02:27:28,940
Okay.

1784
02:27:30,020 --> 02:27:30,500
Councillor Franklin.

1785
02:27:34,540 --> 02:27:35,260
Thank you.

1786
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:36,420
I support the program also.

1787
02:27:36,580 --> 02:27:38,640
I'd make a motion that we adopt that in 20.

1788
02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:40,000
All second.

1789
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:42,760
Do I need to go?

1790
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:43,860
Where do I need to go?

1791
02:27:44,620 --> 02:27:46,080
Do I need to wait for him to vote?

1792
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:48,590
So?

1793
02:27:48,730 --> 02:27:49,190
Go ahead and vote?

1794
02:27:50,470 --> 02:27:52,830
We can vote on this one when we vote on the next one.

1795
02:27:54,210 --> 02:27:54,970
Do you do that?

1796
02:27:56,350 --> 02:27:59,610
Okay, we'll hold it and we'll vote on this the only one in the next one, okay.

1797
02:27:59,890 --> 02:28:02,210
Hope here comes. Okay, cash to vote, please.

1798
02:28:06,650 --> 02:28:07,650
I don't think you're the whole discussion.

1799
02:28:10,820 --> 02:28:16,680
Okay. Motion passes unanimously. That takes us down to item number 21.

1800
02:28:19,540 --> 02:28:21,680
State internship program and that's...

1801
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:24,180
Did you want to report? I have three of you on that.

1802
02:28:24,460 --> 02:28:25,680
Deputy Mayor, Councillor Contraryson.

1803
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:28,800
and Council Member Melinda, as you want to please.

1804
02:28:30,840 --> 02:28:33,900
So again, from the Vista Economic Development Strategy

1805
02:28:33,900 --> 02:28:35,720
that we affectionately call the Veds,

1806
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:39,280
this is a paid internship program in partnership

1807
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:40,480
with the Chamber of Commerce.

1808
02:28:40,900 --> 02:28:42,800
You might remember when we went over that document

1809
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:46,660
in February, we thought the Chamber would be the appropriate place

1810
02:28:46,660 --> 02:28:48,960
to have the workforce activities focused.

1811
02:28:49,900 --> 02:28:53,320
This would be paying eligible students' stipends

1812
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:54,940
for 100 hours of work.

1813
02:28:54,940 --> 02:29:02,880
This is really 100 students for 100 hours of work at about $16 an hour and this would provide

1814
02:29:02,880 --> 02:29:07,440
VISTA companies with this free time and effort by these students.

1815
02:29:07,980 --> 02:29:12,980
The companies would have to invest the time and intention to help those students understand

1816
02:29:12,980 --> 02:29:15,400
at these VISTA companies what they do.

1817
02:29:15,960 --> 02:29:21,140
So whether that might be Dr. Bronners, might be DJL, might be any of those companies that

1818
02:29:21,140 --> 02:29:26,920
have here, really help them understand what they do and connect with that business community.

1819
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:31,350
So cuts my room will end us.

1820
02:29:31,450 --> 02:29:32,270
Thank you so much.

1821
02:29:32,490 --> 02:29:35,050
I'm so glad that this program is included.

1822
02:29:35,170 --> 02:29:42,750
I think that it's a really great opportunity for students and young people who want education

1823
02:29:42,750 --> 02:29:48,150
and employment and greater learning and networking as well.

1824
02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:59,970
One of my questions is, do we have a, since you know, an internship does include an element of education, do we have a kind of...

1825
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:28,840
We're kind of set of expectations for the businesses as to what some of their goals and expectations would look like. I know that there may be a variety of businesses that participate, but I want to ensure that not only are they getting positive work experience, they are being paid, but also that they're not working experience is going to lead to as much education as possible.

1826
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:35,020
So this is a piece of the plane that we're putting on, so I would ask Ms. Bell to come up

1827
02:30:35,020 --> 02:30:39,120
and kind of talk a little bit about where she might be with that rubric in the process.

1828
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:44,540
I know that over near the end of this year they're going to be constructing the final details

1829
02:30:44,540 --> 02:30:49,800
and working with everyone with this program to stand up in June of next year.

1830
02:30:50,540 --> 02:30:51,140
Thank you, Kevin.

1831
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:57,000
If I could just take a moment to just share with the idea for this program came from.

1832
02:30:57,000 --> 02:31:03,540
So, as part of the VEDS, the VEDS document identifies the Chamber as one of the key partners

1833
02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:05,500
of the city to work on workforce development.

1834
02:31:06,980 --> 02:31:11,120
And months ago, when the Council was discussing cannabis funds, the idea of workforce

1835
02:31:11,120 --> 02:31:13,520
development was discussed as a potential use of funds.

1836
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:18,220
And based on that, I put together a proposal with a number of programs that were actually

1837
02:31:18,220 --> 02:31:19,960
four items proposed.

1838
02:31:20,120 --> 02:31:25,640
And one of the reasons an internship program rose to the top is one of my favorite items

1839
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:30,640
of that I proposed is because a very large percentage of this

1840
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:34,840
just students believe it's 96% have to have some sort of work

1841
02:31:34,840 --> 02:31:38,320
right after graduation, whether they go into careers,

1842
02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:41,120
whether they are going to school, they need some sort of income

1843
02:31:41,120 --> 02:31:43,980
to supplement either their educational opportunities

1844
02:31:43,980 --> 02:31:47,220
or whatever, and backing into that, there are a number

1845
02:31:47,220 --> 02:31:50,140
of students that need work, work opportunities

1846
02:31:50,140 --> 02:31:53,620
during the school year, and I think we all know that if you have

1847
02:31:53,620 --> 02:31:56,640
to work in a paid capacity to help support your family

1848
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:58,980
or to pay for your own car insurance or whatever,

1849
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:01,740
that excludes you from an unpaid opportunity

1850
02:32:01,740 --> 02:32:04,120
that could open up the doors for networking

1851
02:32:04,120 --> 02:32:06,740
and some of the things that Council Member Melinda has mentioned.

1852
02:32:07,340 --> 02:32:09,580
I personally had that experience as a high school student

1853
02:32:09,580 --> 02:32:11,960
and wanted to participate in an unpaid opportunity.

1854
02:32:12,540 --> 02:32:13,560
I wasn't able to do that.

1855
02:32:13,660 --> 02:32:15,680
I needed to work and help my family.

1856
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:18,100
So that's where this idea came from.

1857
02:32:18,340 --> 02:32:21,180
So with regard to your question, about a rubric

1858
02:32:21,180 --> 02:32:22,740
as far as expectations.

1859
02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:25,000
We're working on those details.

1860
02:32:25,460 --> 02:32:27,540
This program is set to roll out next summer.

1861
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:31,920
And we have an idea we've talked with the school district

1862
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:33,720
about how to identify the students that

1863
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:36,040
would most appropriately fit within this program.

1864
02:32:36,380 --> 02:32:38,660
There are a number of career pathways students

1865
02:32:38,660 --> 02:32:42,940
that fit within the industries we have interest from companies.

1866
02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:46,360
So there are some details to still flesh out.

1867
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:49,760
But the intention here is that equity piece,

1868
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:54,940
the intention here is to connect students with career exploration opportunities, the program

1869
02:32:54,940 --> 02:32:59,240
highlights students between their junior and senior year, where they need those paid

1870
02:32:59,240 --> 02:33:04,280
opportunities and yet they can also make potential work force connections where when they

1871
02:33:04,280 --> 02:33:10,740
graduate and need either part-time or full-time employment they have already a leg up as an

1872
02:33:10,740 --> 02:33:15,060
opportunity for potential long-term employee and perhaps the company can invest in them and

1873
02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:19,020
support them in their educational goals as well. That's really the goal of the program and I'm

1874
02:33:19,020 --> 02:33:21,380
excited that you're considering it.

1875
02:33:24,640 --> 02:33:26,700
Thank you, do you have questions of Rachel?

1876
02:33:28,020 --> 02:33:29,440
No, that was a wonderful explanation.

1877
02:33:29,780 --> 02:33:30,820
Thank you so much.

1878
02:33:31,220 --> 02:33:33,280
I understand that we're at the beginning of the process, right?

1879
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:35,100
There's still a lot of things to iron out,

1880
02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:40,140
but it's very helpful to know how the program was conceptualized

1881
02:33:40,140 --> 02:33:43,180
and where you're hoping it can go in the future.

1882
02:33:43,420 --> 02:33:44,880
Thank you so much.

1883
02:33:45,340 --> 02:33:46,000
Tell some of our contours.

1884
02:33:46,180 --> 02:33:48,360
Anybody else have questions for Rachel?

1885
02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:51,120
Yes, no, maybe not.

1886
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:53,160
Okay, thanks for your help, good explanation.

1887
02:33:55,700 --> 02:34:00,000
I just want to say it's so exciting to really see the veds come to life.

1888
02:34:00,700 --> 02:34:12,400
I had a schedule, I'm thrilled that we're able to start making some of our long-term goals start now.

1889
02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:35,700
I just want to make sure that when we're talking about students that match career paths that we don't overlook all to VISTA, that we don't overlook general Murray, we have a lot of students who are credit deficient because they have to work.

1890
02:34:35,700 --> 02:34:59,880
So this is a great opportunity for those individuals who aren't born into networks of knowing, you know, how to even be a, you know, city manager or, you know, economic development in the city, all these different types of careers that are all around us, but that you kind of have to know about.

1891
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,810
And the sooner you can know about them, the better. So, I just want to make sure that we're

1892
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:13,420
including outreach to all schools. I don't want it to come back and it just be, you know,

1893
02:35:13,660 --> 02:35:19,240
mission VISTA high school. And because I know that when we accept applications for youth

1894
02:35:19,240 --> 02:35:23,520
commissioners, there are some schools that we don't get any applications from. And I don't want

1895
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:32,100
this program to mirror those types of actions, right? So I just want to make sure that we are

1896
02:35:32,100 --> 02:35:40,860
really getting two or student population and being able to bring people into the first step

1897
02:35:40,860 --> 02:35:48,800
that could be a career path. With that said, I love this program, you know, actually wish we could

1898
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:53,440
I'll allocate more money to it, dip it in me or green.

1899
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:56,060
All right, thank you so much.

1900
02:35:56,920 --> 02:36:00,920
Yeah, it's cool to see all these programs come back that they used to teach us back in the

1901
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:01,600
day in school.

1902
02:36:01,940 --> 02:36:05,640
I had a class called Work Experience and I didn't even have to go to it because I had a real

1903
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:08,140
job and I actually got college credit for it.

1904
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:12,660
So the goal of this unified school district is college your career ready.

1905
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:15,440
A lot of kids aren't going to go to college, a lot of kids are going to go straight into

1906
02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:15,800
careers.

1907
02:36:16,140 --> 02:36:19,140
And as we know in business, it's not a lot about what you know, it's about who you know.

1908
02:36:19,140 --> 02:36:24,420
and some of these people don't have that access so as the chamber stepping up to put these students

1909
02:36:24,420 --> 02:36:29,100
in those positions that they wouldn't have access to I think it's great and I think you know this

1910
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:33,760
is another great example of the city and school district and chamber all partnering together

1911
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:41,580
to serve the same exact population and the same exact citizens so I definitely am in support of this.

1912
02:36:41,960 --> 02:36:47,520
I did have a question for you though before I let you sit down Rachel and I sorry I let you sit down

1913
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:53,600
so quickly. But we are putting a lot on you. Okay. So you're going to get $3 million for

1914
02:36:53,600 --> 02:36:59,960
grant funding. You're getting $2.35 plus 50. So $3.285 million of our ARPA funds are going

1915
02:36:59,960 --> 02:37:04,000
to be allocated to the chamber. I don't know what your current annual budget is, but I'm assuming

1916
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:08,300
that this is a lot more money than the chamber has typically received. I just want to make

1917
02:37:08,300 --> 02:37:13,780
sure that the citizens know that when we're given you all this money that you have a staff

1918
02:37:13,780 --> 02:37:18,600
in place, ready to run all these programs and ready to make sure everything happens efficiently

1919
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:19,560
for us.

1920
02:37:20,120 --> 02:37:20,280
Absolutely.

1921
02:37:20,380 --> 02:37:23,180
Our team is beyond thrilled, our board is supportive.

1922
02:37:23,740 --> 02:37:29,260
We recently hired an additional staff member, specifically a bilingual staff member to help

1923
02:37:29,260 --> 02:37:33,960
with the outreach for the business grant program as well as the internship program.

1924
02:37:34,340 --> 02:37:38,760
I don't think that will necessarily be the case as we're working with a consultant on

1925
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:39,840
the workforce study.

1926
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:46,560
But we are have a robust team ready to rock and roll and all of these programs are really excited I love the program

1927
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:53,420
I love the fact that you you wrote the grant and you're just like hey, we need we need this program in Vista and as a Vista kid

1928
02:37:53,420 --> 02:37:56,200
And I know my two other council members here who graduated from Vista schools

1929
02:37:56,200 --> 02:38:02,080
We didn't have anything like this in the person that the chamber wasn't coming to say hey come check out Dr. Bronner is hey come check out

1930
02:38:02,080 --> 02:38:05,500
Day Tron come I mean we have fantastic businesses in this community

1931
02:38:05,500 --> 02:38:06,960
So thank you so much

1932
02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:09,660
Thank you so much economic development director as well with that

1933
02:38:09,660 --> 02:38:12,980
I will make a motion to approve this option

1934
02:38:12,980 --> 02:38:15,700
as presented option number 21, right?

1935
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:16,240
Thank you.

1936
02:38:16,540 --> 02:38:18,180
Deputy Mayor, just really quick.

1937
02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:23,140
Staff is going to oversee the partnership with the chamber

1938
02:38:23,140 --> 02:38:26,240
and will authorize the payments as they occur.

1939
02:38:26,780 --> 02:38:29,460
So the funds will largely stay with the city

1940
02:38:29,460 --> 02:38:31,840
and as the programs vet themselves,

1941
02:38:32,740 --> 02:38:33,920
then the chamber will act as a...

1942
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:34,220
Oh, perfect.

1943
02:38:34,260 --> 02:38:35,080
So the act is an intermediate.

1944
02:38:35,300 --> 02:38:36,680
You don't give you like the approved applications

1945
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:38,780
and then where the actual funding source, that's right.

1946
02:38:38,780 --> 02:38:40,800
So smart, thank you.

1947
02:38:40,940 --> 02:38:41,620
Councilmember Franklin?

1948
02:38:42,660 --> 02:38:45,580
Well, as a kid who did two years of work study,

1949
02:38:45,860 --> 02:38:49,360
junior and senior year, I thought of it as work release.

1950
02:38:50,540 --> 02:38:52,560
And who did four different internships,

1951
02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:58,440
most of the while having a job on the side to support myself,

1952
02:38:59,140 --> 02:39:01,940
I know how important internships are, so I definitely second this.

1953
02:39:02,860 --> 02:39:05,680
My only thing about it is that it's 100 hours, and that's only,

1954
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:07,240
if you say it's a 20 or a week,

1955
02:39:07,240 --> 02:39:20,460
It would be five weeks, yeah, that's not very long of an internship, I would think it would be more like, I don't know, I would just think maybe it would be six weeks, eight weeks, it seems like a short internship to me.

1956
02:39:20,700 --> 02:39:27,160
So, I think it's great because the SRAM can clarify that, I'm not sure the high school students are working 20 hours a week.

1957
02:39:27,640 --> 02:39:31,900
So, when working with the chamber and talking to some of the businesses, the 100 hours seems to work.

1958
02:39:31,900 --> 02:39:35,320
So it's an investment on the business's half as well.

1959
02:39:35,640 --> 02:39:41,380
So realize they are overseeing, managing these employees,

1960
02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:42,380
these interns.

1961
02:39:42,780 --> 02:39:45,580
And so that investment in that amount of time

1962
02:39:45,580 --> 02:39:47,580
is enough to get them a project or two,

1963
02:39:47,600 --> 02:39:49,340
but not so much time that it's going to take

1964
02:39:49,340 --> 02:39:52,360
a tremendous amount of staff time to oversee and manage.

1965
02:39:53,580 --> 02:39:55,080
OK, I'll leave it to you.

1966
02:39:55,320 --> 02:39:57,520
I just seemed like that it should be a longer learning time

1967
02:39:57,520 --> 02:39:59,440
to me for experience time.

1968
02:39:59,440 --> 02:39:59,960
So...

1969
02:40:00,460 --> 02:40:10,840
And I know there is a summer thing, so I know it's not during school hours, it says here, it's just during the summer. So anyway, okay, please cast your votes.

1970
02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:17,100
I'll just add that as an employer, if you get somebody that's doing a great job for five weeks, you're going to keep them on.

1971
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:19,780
I think it's a good foot in the floor.

1972
02:40:19,780 --> 02:40:21,440
That motion passes unanimously.

1973
02:40:21,860 --> 02:40:22,800
That's very true.

1974
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:24,720
And that brings us to our last one.

1975
02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:25,780
Item number 23.

1976
02:40:26,620 --> 02:40:30,920
It is to fund the downtown clean and safe program

1977
02:40:30,920 --> 02:40:33,060
and that's Council Member of Contreras.

1978
02:40:33,760 --> 02:40:34,940
Would you like a report on that?

1979
02:40:35,660 --> 02:40:36,060
Yes.

1980
02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:38,700
I would love a report on this item

1981
02:40:38,700 --> 02:40:43,080
and specifically, you know, something that's not written

1982
02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:45,990
in the summary, but I think is

1983
02:40:45,990 --> 02:40:55,190
almost implied by the summary is homelessness. So I want to hear a little bit

1984
02:40:55,190 --> 02:41:02,750
more, because when we're looking at our downtown area, you know, that's something

1985
02:41:02,750 --> 02:41:15,970
at one point in the strategic plan to address homelessness that we were looking at

1986
02:41:15,970 --> 02:41:19,610
But I feel like there is, it's kind of subtext.

1987
02:41:20,250 --> 02:41:20,770
So thanks.

1988
02:41:23,490 --> 02:41:26,170
So in the veds, we talked about the downtown

1989
02:41:26,170 --> 02:41:28,730
and some of the things that we need to focus on in the downtown.

1990
02:41:29,270 --> 02:41:33,530
And the clean and safe program, although it wasn't spelled out

1991
02:41:33,530 --> 02:41:37,310
in those exact terms, but investment in the downtown,

1992
02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:39,830
looking at how to support those businesses

1993
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:42,510
and those customers that go down there,

1994
02:41:43,250 --> 02:41:44,750
was an item that was addressed.

1995
02:41:44,750 --> 02:41:51,330
and so we have invested a tremendous amount of time in the businesses to curate if you will

1996
02:41:51,330 --> 02:41:57,910
a really heart to a city and you all know because you've been here for such a long time that

1997
02:41:57,910 --> 02:42:04,130
that downtown has changed. And so we are in competition with other areas as well. And so

1998
02:42:04,130 --> 02:42:09,110
that competition could be cities that are nearby. That's a competition for a dollar that goes to

1999
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:15,150
downtown business that supports a job in the downtown and we have heard that there are

2000
02:42:15,150 --> 02:42:20,690
any number of things that could support those businesses. So having a clean and safe program

2001
02:42:20,690 --> 02:42:25,970
is something that's implemented in little Italy, downtown San Diego, the city of Riverside

2002
02:42:25,970 --> 02:42:32,910
that puts feet on the street, throughout the week, especially during key hours to have ambassadors

2003
02:42:32,910 --> 02:42:39,910
if you will, helping direct people to where the parking is, where a restaurant might be.

2004
02:42:40,310 --> 02:42:47,750
If individuals need assistance, whatever that assistance may be, helping direct them to the right location.

2005
02:42:48,290 --> 02:42:53,570
If they see an incident incident or an issue going on to call the Sheriff's Department,

2006
02:42:53,910 --> 02:42:57,630
to be those eyes out there to let them know that something needs to be addressed.

2007
02:42:57,630 --> 02:43:04,050
And so, whether it's customers of businesses that I've received emails of, or the businesses,

2008
02:43:04,430 --> 02:43:10,670
this has been addressed as something that would make them feel safer, would make it more

2009
02:43:10,670 --> 02:43:15,510
vibrant in the downtown and really create an environment for the customers and the businesses

2010
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:17,110
that would be supported by all.

2011
02:43:18,050 --> 02:43:23,710
Okay, that sounds great, but how did we get to $460,000?

2012
02:43:23,710 --> 02:43:35,890
I mean, this is almost seems like we would be building a plaza like what we looked at when we were talking about the gazebo areas, so I mean, that's an extraordinary amount of money.

2013
02:43:37,270 --> 02:43:50,790
I just want to see how we get there because, honestly, I would love to, if we're going to have individuals working downtown as ambassadors, you know, why can't that be part of the paid internship program.

2014
02:43:51,510 --> 02:43:59,970
But anyways, I just, I'm curious to see how we get to 460,000, that's just, it's pretty big.

2015
02:44:00,790 --> 02:44:10,610
So we have received, so to determine some of these costs, we asked for professionals that are experiencing these areas to give us a bid.

2016
02:44:11,550 --> 02:44:19,810
This would eventually go out to RFP, so the company that actually gave us this bid was a company called Block by Block that does this throughout the country.

2017
02:44:19,810 --> 02:44:24,030
And this would be three individuals that would consist of a manager,

2018
02:44:24,930 --> 02:44:26,510
would it consist of two employees.

2019
02:44:27,550 --> 02:44:31,850
It would cover 40 hours for all three of them throughout the week.

2020
02:44:32,250 --> 02:44:36,710
It covers office space, it covers their tracking system,

2021
02:44:36,830 --> 02:44:41,170
for trash, referrals, all of those systems that are in place.

2022
02:44:42,210 --> 02:44:45,030
There are any number of companies that could do this.

2023
02:44:45,730 --> 02:44:48,890
So my guess is when we go out to bid that price may go down.

2024
02:44:49,650 --> 02:44:55,770
Depending upon, as Mr. Silvia said, the competition in premiums that are out there for similar services.

2025
02:44:56,750 --> 02:44:59,970
But we arrived at this based upon a bid that we received from someone.

2026
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,600
That is doing this day-to-day across the country, looking at our downtown and telling us how many folks

2027
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:09,940
that they thought that we would need for our downtown during key hours.

2028
02:45:13,190 --> 02:45:22,690
Okay, yeah, I just, you know, I'm supportive of this program, but it's a large sum and I still don't

2029
02:45:22,690 --> 02:45:28,510
have that much info on it. So, I don't know how my colleagues feel about it. This is something

2030
02:45:28,510 --> 02:45:35,470
that I actually would like to have a further discussion on, to see a little bit more information.

2031
02:45:36,010 --> 02:45:42,070
When we're talking about renting office space, that starts to get really, really expensive.

2032
02:45:43,950 --> 02:45:52,230
I'm just curious to, and I think that it behooves us to have a little bit more information about how we get to this 460

2033
02:45:53,210 --> 02:45:58,750
And what successes, what goals we have.

2034
02:45:59,290 --> 02:46:05,050
Because right now I don't even, like, I see a list of services that we want to provide.

2035
02:46:05,710 --> 02:46:07,490
That I think are needed in the downtown.

2036
02:46:08,690 --> 02:46:12,070
However, you know, what are specific goals that we have, right?

2037
02:46:12,170 --> 02:46:17,550
Like when it comes to outreach and clean up, right?

2038
02:46:17,550 --> 02:46:26,730
When it comes to, it says support, business, information sharing, I want to just unpack that a little bit more.

2039
02:46:27,010 --> 02:46:34,330
So I'm going to leave it up to the rest of my members on the council, but this is something that I am supportive of.

2040
02:46:34,510 --> 02:46:38,990
However, I really think that we need to look a little bit more in depth at this item.

2041
02:46:38,990 --> 02:46:40,470
Councillor for Franklin.

2042
02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:42,290
Well, thank you.

2043
02:46:43,230 --> 02:46:49,070
My understanding of how we're getting to the 460,000 has we got three full-time equivalents

2044
02:46:49,070 --> 02:46:49,790
times four years.

2045
02:46:49,930 --> 02:46:50,230
Is that right?

2046
02:46:50,430 --> 02:46:51,030
Is this two years?

2047
02:46:51,630 --> 02:46:52,230
Two years.

2048
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:57,570
I think you can see how we get there numerically.

2049
02:46:59,310 --> 02:47:01,110
Although office space, I'm an agreement.

2050
02:47:01,310 --> 02:47:03,050
I don't think this program needs office space.

2051
02:47:03,450 --> 02:47:05,050
You're going to have to sell me on that one.

2052
02:47:05,530 --> 02:47:07,330
I don't want people sitting in an office.

2053
02:47:07,330 --> 02:47:14,790
If we're paying them I want them on the street doing the job that we're hiring them to do and if we give them a place to sit down in a computer to sit on the internet

2054
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:17,370
I'm not understanding why that's part of the job

2055
02:47:17,370 --> 02:47:23,330
So you have to sell me on that one also about the chamber would give us a desk for somebody to sit and do some

2056
02:47:24,990 --> 02:47:30,930
You know staff scheduling and filing some reports and I bet they give us a really good price on it too

2057
02:47:30,930 --> 02:47:33,510
because they probably got a desk, they're not fully utilizing.

2058
02:47:34,690 --> 02:47:37,770
So let's think about that rather than having separate offices.

2059
02:47:38,890 --> 02:47:45,010
Maybe we can contract for a very efficient office share with the Chamber.

2060
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:49,450
Because I think there are a mission to have to tell us nice of it.

2061
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:51,290
Is the Chamber going to have a role in this program?

2062
02:47:52,450 --> 02:47:56,290
We would work with them and they would be our icing yours out there as well.

2063
02:47:56,730 --> 02:48:00,390
Speaking of the office space component, hopefully the future bidders

2064
02:48:00,390 --> 02:48:04,610
not watching this, but this is one of the areas of savings I think we can experience.

2065
02:48:05,270 --> 02:48:11,150
The other is the office space would just be one space, and we typically be for someone's

2066
02:48:11,150 --> 02:48:15,390
break and resting, and the font that I've had is the film hub.

2067
02:48:15,870 --> 02:48:19,170
We could work with the film hub that's right around the corner and it's in our downtown.

2068
02:48:19,590 --> 02:48:23,750
I'm sure that could be something that we could easily lower the cost and just wanted to

2069
02:48:23,750 --> 02:48:27,670
make sure that we had an industry standard bid to work from and then we can work down from

2070
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:28,290
that.

2071
02:48:28,810 --> 02:48:35,670
So, I regularly get communication from business owners in the downtown, specifically thinking

2072
02:48:36,330 --> 02:48:42,210
to the, I think now, former owner of Bear Roots, when he opened his facility down there

2073
02:48:42,210 --> 02:48:50,130
had a lot of safety issues, gang issues, crime issues, we do not have deputies, we don't

2074
02:48:50,130 --> 02:48:55,750
have code enforcement who are present on a regular basis in the downtown, sure they're in

2075
02:48:55,750 --> 02:49:02,850
out, but they're not stationed there. It is so important if our downtown businesses are going

2076
02:49:02,850 --> 02:49:10,370
to thrive and more important. If consumers are going to feel safe to come in and have a

2077
02:49:10,370 --> 02:49:15,610
craft brew, eat a slice of pizza, we've got to really start to address some of the safety

2078
02:49:15,610 --> 02:49:22,810
issues, make sure that we're preventing graffiti before it happens, and really sort of protect

2079
02:49:22,810 --> 02:49:27,450
the investment that these business owners have made, and they can't do it by themselves.

2080
02:49:28,550 --> 02:49:32,930
So, in picking up trash, picking up cigarette butts, the things that these folks are

2081
02:49:32,930 --> 02:49:37,470
going to do for us, I think, is really critical to the economic future of the outtails.

2082
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:40,730
So, I would make a motion that we adopt item 23.

2083
02:49:43,530 --> 02:49:46,550
Thank you so much Madam Mayor.

2084
02:49:47,230 --> 02:49:55,370
Thank you to staff for finding an opportunity to enhance our downtown.

2085
02:49:55,370 --> 02:49:59,950
And my concern with this item is...

2086
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:12,980
Not necessarily needed, but perhaps it is and could become duplicitous with some other potential programs that the city is pursuing.

2087
02:50:13,820 --> 02:50:27,440
I know we're only on our D4 item here, discussion 4, but for discussion item 5, we are going to be discussing our potential proposed blight reduction team.

2088
02:50:27,440 --> 02:50:34,720
And that that is, you know, some of the activities that the proposed blight reduction team

2089
02:50:34,720 --> 02:50:36,140
would be performing.

2090
02:50:36,340 --> 02:50:41,760
I think like cleanup, you know, incident reporting, that kind of thing.

2091
02:50:42,140 --> 02:50:47,820
So, that is my concern that there is, you know, this expense of three full-time positions,

2092
02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:56,460
where we are also going to be looking at potentially a blight reduction team that is...

2093
02:50:57,440 --> 02:51:04,080
accomplishing similar tasks. So I think that there's some of the elements of this program,

2094
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:12,480
the downtown clean and safe program that are beneficial. I just don't know if it's an essential use of these funds.

2095
02:51:12,880 --> 02:51:17,740
Although I do understand that we are trying to find opportunities for the allocation of these funds.

2096
02:51:18,220 --> 02:51:26,440
I think that throughout this discussion tonight, I have expressed that some of these items could receive more funding.

2097
02:51:26,460 --> 02:51:34,200
right? So if we were to kind of, you know, curve back on any of the program options that

2098
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:40,160
are before us, this is one of those program options where, you know, thinking forward to

2099
02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:44,580
our future discussion that we're going to have in a couple minutes, I'm wondering if it

2100
02:51:44,580 --> 02:51:51,740
is as an essential, you know, use of these funds that could better be used elsewhere. So those

2101
02:51:51,740 --> 02:51:56,220
are my comments, those are my concerns and criticisms of this item. I think that it's

2102
02:51:56,220 --> 02:52:02,000
creative program and options, not something the city of VISTA has done before, but we are

2103
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:08,100
looking at maybe similar overlapping roles or opportunities to explore as a city.

2104
02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:09,780
Thank you.

2105
02:52:10,760 --> 02:52:17,420
I think that this is focused on the downtown, and I think that the next discussion is

2106
02:52:18,860 --> 02:52:24,620
the lightest, the entire city, I think this is more of a downtown focus item, but I'll

2107
02:52:24,620 --> 02:52:35,580
with deputy Mayor Green. Oh dang, I was already on. All right. Let's see, I wrote down, let

2108
02:52:35,580 --> 02:52:39,340
me see. I apologize, ma'am, you complete brain fart right now.

2109
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:46,240
Is it 21 or is it 23? 23. Sorry. 23.

2110
02:52:46,880 --> 02:52:50,480
Okay, yeah, no, I think this is a great question. I'm just going to make a motion to prove this

2111
02:52:50,480 --> 02:52:51,640
So, appreciate it.

2112
02:52:51,720 --> 02:52:52,840
No, like I've come with time.

2113
02:52:53,020 --> 02:52:53,680
That's my favorite Franklin.

2114
02:52:55,140 --> 02:52:59,340
Yeah, you made the comments I was going to make, Madam Mayor, about the other program

2115
02:52:59,340 --> 02:53:04,200
being focused on the remainder of the city, and the other thing is the other program is

2116
02:53:04,200 --> 02:53:10,600
going to be people and vehicles, and this is people on the streets down down down, and I think

2117
02:53:10,600 --> 02:53:13,360
both deserve full-time presence.

2118
02:53:14,260 --> 02:53:18,780
Yeah, the downtown definitely needs it, so I'm supportive of that.

2119
02:53:18,780 --> 02:53:23,640
So with that, I have a motion in a second, so I guess please catch your votes.

2120
02:53:31,230 --> 02:53:33,550
That motion is passes with one no vote.

2121
02:53:34,350 --> 02:53:36,850
That takes us to our next one, which is here.

2122
02:53:37,370 --> 02:53:37,470
Yes?

2123
02:53:39,010 --> 02:53:45,830
Before we go to the next item, would the Council entertain adopting the resolution that goes along with D4?

2124
02:53:46,270 --> 02:53:53,490
I know that you made a motion and voted on each of the items, but there is a resolution to D4 itself.

2125
02:53:56,540 --> 02:53:59,780
Sure, I look for a motion for that.

2126
02:53:59,820 --> 02:54:00,820
I mean, look at the resolution.

2127
02:54:03,200 --> 02:54:05,720
Resolution number, 2021, accepting the allocation of,

2128
02:54:06,380 --> 02:54:08,740
except for you in the money, you want to accept the money?

2129
02:54:09,580 --> 02:54:10,820
I think that's our resolution, right?

2130
02:54:11,760 --> 02:54:14,260
Yes, okay, so I need a motion.

2131
02:54:16,200 --> 02:54:16,240
What?

2132
02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:18,920
Oh, you're picking me here?

2133
02:54:20,080 --> 02:54:20,700
Thank you.

2134
02:54:20,720 --> 02:54:24,340
I move that we adopt the resolution as presented by staff

2135
02:54:24,340 --> 02:54:29,140
with the additional comments included and a direction from my council.

2136
02:54:29,360 --> 02:54:29,560
Second.

2137
02:54:30,360 --> 02:54:30,660
Okay.

2138
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:32,600
Motion and a second on that.

2139
02:54:32,820 --> 02:54:34,180
So please catch your votes.

2140
02:54:40,140 --> 02:54:41,220
That motion passes unanimously.

2141
02:54:42,400 --> 02:54:42,680
Okay.

2142
02:54:42,960 --> 02:54:43,500
Good job.

2143
02:54:43,500 --> 02:54:45,120
I know why I was stuck.

2144
02:54:46,320 --> 02:54:49,700
So moving on to our last session, I find a discussion item.

2145
02:54:50,580 --> 02:54:53,180
It's the priorities for excess cannabis revenues.

2146
02:54:54,040 --> 02:54:56,900
Oh, our city clerk, Kathy Veldez is going to provide the staff report.

2147
02:55:01,040 --> 02:55:03,860
Or are you in just a minute to get the PowerPoint switched?

2148
02:55:21,110 --> 02:55:21,410
All right.

2149
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:37,400
So this item is to discuss priorities for excess cannabis revenues. I'd like to suggest again to help move the conversation along that I provide an overview of all the proposed projects.

2150
02:55:37,820 --> 02:55:47,740
Then we go through and identify whether some consensus and then open up to discussion for those items where there's questions or if we have a lack of consensus on those.

2151
02:55:47,740 --> 02:55:52,800
So do you want to follow the way we do the last one and vote on each thing and each thing as we go along?

2152
02:55:53,080 --> 02:55:53,720
So how should we should do it?

2153
02:55:53,740 --> 02:55:57,840
So I'll do the full report and then we'll go back and look at the specific item.

2154
02:55:58,120 --> 02:55:58,500
Priorities. Yeah.

2155
02:55:58,960 --> 02:55:59,200
Okay.

2156
02:56:00,700 --> 02:56:01,580
All right.

2157
02:56:03,080 --> 02:56:06,960
So back in April, the city council was presented with a draft budget.

2158
02:56:07,500 --> 02:56:15,220
And at that time, there was consensus from the council members to cap the general fund revenue amount at $4 million.

2159
02:56:15,820 --> 02:56:23,360
and use the access funds for special projects, which would be allocated at the end of the year once all of that tax revenue was collected.

2160
02:56:25,300 --> 02:56:38,400
For fiscal year 2020, 2021, the city received 5.113 million in cannabis revenues, which makes 1.113 million available to allocate for projects for the current fiscal year 2021.

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22.

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At the time of the discussion of the draft budget, as well as when we talked about adult cannabis,

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the C Council provides some recommendations for projects they might like to see funded.

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The slide here shows those items that staff recommends using the cannabis funding to provide for those programs.

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The first is cannabis decoy and enforcement operations.

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At the last year council meeting, you did allocate funds through the

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jagrant for this to do it on a quarterly basis for decoy operations.

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This would allow for additional decoy operations as well as special enforcement

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operations to look at both the businesses as well as delivery.

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And so they might be larger operations or they can be individual

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and we'll be investigating some flexibility

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in the sheriff's department to do that.

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Another item that counts identified was youth cannabis prevention

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and early intervention programs.

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Staff is recommending that we issue an RFP for this.

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It could either be $250,000 grants,

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one for prevention, one for early intervention

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or one larger grant that would cover both items

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and we are suggesting that the Community Safety Commission

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be used to review those applications and make funny recommendations to the council, similar

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to what we do with the CDBG program.

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The next is the scholarship program.

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There was interest in providing support to nonprofit organizations, particularly looking at

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sports leagues and other extracurricular activities.

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So staff is proposing, again, a grant program where nonprofit organizations could apply for

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to $10,000 to cover the costs of enrollment.

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Youth in the program, as well as maybe some other costs

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associated with that, for instance,

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if there's field trips or certain equipment

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that might be needed by the youth, the organization

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can apply to include that as well.

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Again, suggesting that the Community Safety Commission

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be used to review those applications

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and make the funding recommendations to council.

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In crease lighting and neighborhoods,

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It was another item that some council members identified.

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Staff has looked at the costs for installing lighting.

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It says it's made to be about $27,000 per light and about $450 for electricity costs per year.

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So we're recommending $270,000 that would allow for about three blocks worth of new lighting

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in a neighborhood.

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On average, for a residential street, it's about three lights on opposite sides of the street.

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So again, that would give us several blocks in a new neighborhood.

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Adding a share of Stephanie to our cops team.

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I think most people are familiar, but I'll review a little bit what the cops seem

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does.

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They do many of the issues that the council would like to address.

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Things like graffiti, tobacco, alcohol, cannabis, human trafficking, special operations.

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And I'm sure, oh, and homelessness is another big item that they address.

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So that deputy would assist the other WDs and meeting those goals that the city has to address those problems.

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C-Cons are sorry the C staff are recommending a blight reduction team blight has been

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The council has had as a goal to reduce for many years. And this would allow for a two-team person, so two different vehicles to basically covering the city every day of the week to look for black issues.

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So picking up debris that's in the street, identifying problem areas, and also doing enforcement. So it would be sort of a combined public works and code enforcement position.

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So, we're recommending, I'm doing a pilot project for that for one year and see what

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impact is in supporting your goal to reduce blight.

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And then also staff identified the need to increase park restroom maintenance.

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Currently, restaurants are cleaned at the parks at the end of the day after closing and

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there's certainly need throughout the day to do some additional cleaning.

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So our current provider has provided a quote that would allow for two teams to check

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for us rooms throughout the day at all the parks,

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restock and clean as necessary.

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So those are the projects that staff is recommending,

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the total magically comes to 1,113,000, which is perfect,

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but we do have some other projects that the council

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identified, so I want to talk about those as well.

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Some of them we've identified other funding sources for,

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so we're hoping that that will meet our needs.

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One is a purge clinician.

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The county has been talking about increasing

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the number of clinicians throughout the county and so we'd like to see what they come up with

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and hopefully be able to secure per clinician or additional hours as a per clinician in the city.

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Similarly, the county has hired 10 additional social workers to work throughout the city.

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I'm sorry, throughout the county and we're working with the county on whether requirements are

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to have a social worker either assigned full time or certainly part time to the city.

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And then another item, the Council brought up, was steps to abuse recovery programs.

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We have identified CBG as a potential funding source for this, although I do want to caution

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that that would have to come out of the public service funds, which are currently used to

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fund the other special projects or non-profits, so it would be in lieu of some of those other

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grant programs, but that would allow for, so, we're living beds and or some cessation programs

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for marijuana and tobacco, which has been identified as a need in the recovery programs.

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Products that we have already received funding for, or have recommended for funding, actually

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I can say now that they're all funded, since you approved the ARPA grant, are solar panels, oops,

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I forgot, oh, sorry, solar panels at City Facilities.

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We received state funding through that with the help and really the efforts of Assembly

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Women Board of Harvard, so we are certainly grateful for that, so we will be getting

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the solar panels here at the Civic Center.

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You approved the subsidies for the Wave Water Park, Senior Center, and gas tax through the

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ARPA funding, as well as workforce development and financial literacy.

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The final item that was identified by Council was a dog park, however staff are not recommending

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using the cannabis funds for this.

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It would be estimated to be over $2.5 million, which would essentially use the cannabis

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funds for at least a couple of years and not be able to fund other programs.

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We do have part development fees that can be used for this and depending on whether street

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improvements are needed and where they are.

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we also might be able to use traffic congestion management plan funds to use those.

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So our next steps would be to go back through this. I identify what you would like to have included.

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We'll come back with an operating budget adjustment. And I do remind you that we'll do this

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every year. Once we've received all the cannabis tax revenue for the fiscal year.

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So it'll be an opportunity to look at programs you approved tonight. Whether you want to, you know,

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item that we'll have every year. So with that mayor, if you'd like, I can go through the items

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and like you'd be far-frying consensus on those. Do you want to hear the speakers from me?

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Especially with the speakers person. All right, then then we can do that. So we'll start with Jim

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Brigham Bautz, well by Nash Brown.

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Jim Brigham Bautz, this is a resident. There is no justification

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and for adding a deputy sheriff. I listened to the last presentation by the captain of the

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Vista Station to this council. He provided no evidence that the department is in need

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of more deputies. Nor did he give any indication that he...

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Even wanted to add another deputy. Why would you even suggest this? You're going to want to

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me add to a department that you have almost no control over. I've read the contract that the city

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has with the sheriff's department. The city council has very little oversight except to order

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an audit. When was the last time the city did an audit of the sheriff's department? Without a review of

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department, you have no evidence to justify this expense.

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If the department is in need of another deputy position, the captain should come before

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the council with a mountain of charts, graphs and data, and plead his case that he needs

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to add another deputy, and what that deputy is going to do to improve outcomes.

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Why would you add a deputy when a commander isn't even asking for it, it makes no sense?

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Now, we're going to be an attempt to justify this.

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We're going to hear that we haven't added a deputy in several years.

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I think maybe up to 13 years.

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That's not a reason to add one now.

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Maybe we had too many 13 years ago.

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And now we have the perfect amount.

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Maybe we still have too many.

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Maybe they're actually aren't enough,

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but you don't know that because you have no evidence.

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You've presented no evidence to this for this.

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We're also going to hear about the ratio of deputies per capita.

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We're going to hear that as our population has grown and the number of deputies, they

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had the same in the ratio as lower and it's too low.

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This ratio is reported by every police department.

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It's a tiny little data point.

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It's never accompanied with any research that explains what an ideal ratio is.

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No one here knows either.

2293
03:06:45,980 --> 03:06:51,220
it sounds important so people go with it. It's not a reason to do this.

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03:06:53,480 --> 03:06:54,240
Okay, you all know

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Rudy Morena, right? He's a Rudy Morena with Hero Inc. He presented to this council last

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year about his youth program. He risks his livelihood to invest in our youth and you guys throw

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crumbs at him and other nonprofits in the city. And then you try to pass this ridiculous giveaway.

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don't do it. Do not vote for this. And based on the earlier discussion about

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the stormwater, drains, and sink holes, you probably should put some of that

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deputy money into a savings account for that. Thank you.

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Nash Brown, followed by Peggy Walker.

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03:07:40,380 --> 03:07:43,260
Hi, City Council. I'm Nash Brown. I've lived in

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03:07:43,260 --> 03:07:47,500
this distance size about seven, so I'm quite in the microphone so we can hear you up here

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hear me a little better? Yeah, no, we can. All right. Well, I, like I said before, I'm

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Nash Brown. I lived in Vista for about since I was seven years old. So I've been

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here for a long time. I also oppose adding a deputy sheriff. I really don't see a point

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in doing that. I like the idea of, you know, like clean the bathrooms and adding a scholarship

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program and things like that. I don't think y'all realize that like, you know, criminalizing

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homelessness and having deputies clean them up like trash and stuff like that is going to

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solve poverty is going to solve issues like this would really solve what if you look into

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richer neighborhoods and you see that there are successful in that there's not much crime

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rain things like that you got to look deeper and realize that this is because they have access

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to resources they have the money to paper these resources and so things like you know scholarship

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programs and like food programs and things like that, that type of stuff will lower crime rate

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and you know the lights and things like that. That is what's going to you know keep us a healthy

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moving society is if we invest in our community, not invest in shares that you know could be

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that are basically used to be authority over us, and unfortunately, too, I've had some very

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bad not myself, but family and friends have bad experiences with the San Diego Sheriff. Thankfully,

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you know, these guys back there, they're very kind to me, but there are some out here, literally,

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my friend had told me this week he almost got ran over by San Diego Sheriff in Vista because

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he ran a red light with no signal lights on or anything, then it was in urgency or anything

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just knew that he could and did it and almost killed my friend. And then also my father who is a

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03:09:50,760 --> 03:09:55,420
pastor who actually works with the Oceanside Police Department was almost murdered by the San

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I'm Diego Sheriff and their...

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There are teammates as well, there are partners, whatever about, I think, 2019, right off of COVID-19, they mistaken for another driver, who I guess the car was stolen, took him out of the car, laid him on the ground, appointed guns at him, my mom was in the back crying, thinking that her husband was going to die.

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And he basically had to go to the Oceanside Police Department to demand an apology letter from them because they want to do themselves from the San Diego Sheriff.

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So there is, I don't see a need for this in terms of community growth.

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We can find community growth and community time is up.

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Oh thank you. Thank you for listening. Thanks. Thank you.

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Peggy Walker?

2331
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Well, by Kelly McCormick.

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Good evening, Council.

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I am a public health educator.

2334
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And I thank you for prioritizing youth education

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for some of these funds.

2336
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But I came tonight to ask for a little bit more,

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a bigger allotment for prevention and intervention programs.

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Because prevention and medication

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03:11:19,480 --> 03:11:24,460
our most critical need in this era today,

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a culture that promotes marijuana use as safe and harmless,

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and unfortunately a culture in which kids perceive it as safe and harmless.

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So, I ask also because I receive on a regular basis

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truckloads of information, scientific studies reports

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on the harm of this psychoactive drug to kids.

2345
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And we also have that Vista's California Healthy Kids Survey.

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The results that show VISTA children are using marijuana

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are consuming it more than alcohol,

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and that they also have a lower perception

2349
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of the risk of youth.

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So I would like to see the budget increased

2351
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for youth oriented uses in three ways, increase funding for the decoy and enforcement operations.

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03:12:21,980 --> 03:12:25,620
The $20,000 is not enough.

2353
03:12:26,240 --> 03:12:32,880
Decoy events should be written into the sheriff's budget for ongoing operations.

2354
03:12:33,860 --> 03:12:42,220
They are one of the few methods that enforce retailer and especially delivery accountability.

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03:12:42,220 --> 03:12:52,420
with youth. I would also like to fund educational programs in schools and in youth institutions,

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scientists and medical professionals say there's strong disconnect between what people,

2357
03:13:01,340 --> 03:13:07,660
especially parents and children, think about marijuana and scientific-based facts,

2358
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citing the potential for serious consequences,

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especially with high-ponent CTHC products,

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including mental health problems for kids.

2361
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We need to create more awareness

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03:13:20,640 --> 03:13:22,360
about those mental health problems.

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03:13:22,960 --> 03:13:26,760
I know of three parents who lost quality-chate sons

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03:13:26,760 --> 03:13:32,340
to Merrill 1 of Related Use and resulting suicide,

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one left a note saying, mom, you were right.

2366
03:13:36,180 --> 03:13:43,440
marijuana has ruined my life, so we need to get out more education about the psychological

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03:13:43,440 --> 03:13:54,020
effects of marijuana use. No child aged 12, 14 or 16 or even 18 or 20 can perceive the ramifications

2368
03:13:54,020 --> 03:14:01,060
of addiction. We must do all we can to educate families about these projects and we are

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Ms. Up. Thank you. Thank you.

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03:14:04,260 --> 03:14:05,940
Kelly McCormick, fellow by Erika Leary.

2371
03:14:13,730 --> 03:14:16,250
Good evening, Council members. This is Kelly McCormick.

2372
03:14:16,370 --> 03:14:22,810
I'm a public health educator with a focus on alcohol tobacco and drug prevention among children and teens.

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03:14:23,490 --> 03:14:31,250
In deciding how to best allocate the extra funds from the marijuana tax, I would like to speak in favor of funding VISTAs youth programs,

2374
03:14:31,250 --> 03:14:37,430
prevention programs, public education on the risks associated with marijuana use, and minor

2375
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decoy operations.

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An example I can share is the danger of marijuana use during pregnancy.

2377
03:14:44,190 --> 03:14:48,630
Even though there is substantial evidence about the harm marijuana use can cause to

2378
03:14:48,630 --> 03:14:54,210
a developing baby, there are buttenders who recommend pot as a way to curb morning sickness.

2379
03:14:54,850 --> 03:14:56,870
This could not be more uninformed.

2380
03:14:56,870 --> 03:14:59,890
The consequences include pre-term delivery.

2381
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:11,300
Free, low birth weight, a higher than average number of stillbirths, and data also show a higher rate of autism among children of women who use marijuana during pregnancy.

2382
03:15:12,360 --> 03:15:21,140
In addition to minor decoys, I would also suggest that decoys are trained to confirm that consumers are not given dangerous information like this.

2383
03:15:21,600 --> 03:15:25,620
As a reminder, there are no educational requirements for bud tenders.

2384
03:15:26,240 --> 03:15:32,140
There's also education needed about edibles, which are highly concentrated and easy to over-consume.

2385
03:15:32,620 --> 03:15:37,800
We see it in the number of people who end up in hospital emergency departments, including children,

2386
03:15:38,380 --> 03:15:44,480
who unknowingly consume marijuana candy or cookies, not properly secured by the adults in the home.

2387
03:15:45,140 --> 03:15:51,620
Ask any emergency medicine doctor or nurse, and they will tell you about the alarming increase in the number of cases.

2388
03:15:51,620 --> 03:15:57,280
And I can't end without emphasizing the need for more education about drug-driving.

2389
03:15:57,840 --> 03:16:02,460
As you may know, San Diego County said a record last year for the number of fatalities

2390
03:16:02,460 --> 03:16:04,280
caused by impaired drivers.

2391
03:16:05,100 --> 03:16:10,500
Both San Diego City Attorney Mara Elliott and San Diego County District Attorney Summers

2392
03:16:10,500 --> 03:16:14,960
Stephan have said that marijuana was a major contributing factor.

2393
03:16:15,600 --> 03:16:21,200
At the same time, surveys show that most marijuana users do not believe pot use affects

2394
03:16:21,200 --> 03:16:27,860
their driving. Clearly, this is a deadly misperception. Please use this money to help mitigate

2395
03:16:27,860 --> 03:16:33,100
the problems that go along with drug use and marijuana commercialization, with a stronger

2396
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:40,080
effort to help VISTA's youth grow up to be drug-free. Thank you. Thank you, Erika Leary.

2397
03:16:43,660 --> 03:16:48,340
Good evening, Mayor and Council members. My name is Erika Leary. I'm the program manager

2398
03:16:48,340 --> 03:16:52,960
for the North Coastal Prevention Coalition, which works in the cities of Carl's Bed Ocean

2399
03:16:52,960 --> 03:16:58,940
to reduce the harm of alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and other drugs through community action,

2400
03:16:59,080 --> 03:17:05,040
education, support, and collaboration. I was probably didn't know I was sitting out in the lobby

2401
03:17:05,040 --> 03:17:10,760
earlier, and I was very inspired by your comments about renaming the community park,

2402
03:17:10,760 --> 03:17:17,940
polyvista park in your efforts and desires for community input and outreach, and perhaps that

2403
03:17:17,940 --> 03:17:24,420
be a frame that you take for this issue too, public input and discussions may also be a marketing

2404
03:17:24,420 --> 03:17:30,420
strategy to help portray the message that VISTAs serious about reducing the potential

2405
03:17:30,420 --> 03:17:36,520
risks of marijuana use. I'd like to also commend the staff report for including the importance

2406
03:17:36,520 --> 03:17:42,920
of decoy operations in the project list, but I've strongly encouraged the council to take

2407
03:17:42,920 --> 03:17:51,220
more deliberate than broader approach with this funding, and really commit that all of it should be focused with the goal of

2408
03:17:51,220 --> 03:17:57,220
mitigating the potential risks and harms of marijuana, including youth-use, school suspensions,

2409
03:17:57,520 --> 03:18:05,220
used by pregnant women, impaired driving, healthcare impacts such as ER visits, and exposure to secondhand smoke.

2410
03:18:05,220 --> 03:18:17,920
This really has a potential to lead here in North County to develop a regional and effective approach to reducing the public health impacts of marijuana use, but it's really going to require commitment and coordination.

2411
03:18:18,680 --> 03:18:27,540
Perhaps some of that $4 million that went to the general fund could be used to hire a staff person or a couple staff people to take the lead on such an effort.

2412
03:18:27,540 --> 03:18:34,840
You lead the region now in marijuana businesses with 11 dispensaries and many neighboring

2413
03:18:34,840 --> 03:18:38,660
cities, customers probably come from neighboring cities.

2414
03:18:39,160 --> 03:18:43,980
Deque operations in particular would benefit from a regional task force approach to help

2415
03:18:43,980 --> 03:18:49,060
drive out illegal operators as well as those not complying with local regulations throughout

2416
03:18:49,060 --> 03:18:50,260
North County.

2417
03:18:53,500 --> 03:18:57,220
Sorry, I did my notes a little bit.

2418
03:18:57,220 --> 03:19:10,080
The VISTA Community Safety Commission may be an appropriate body to oversee such an ambitious approach and would also help direct in identifying effective youth prevention programs.

2419
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:19,880
I would like to point out that it's important to recognize that this tax revenue being generated is driven predominantly by heavy users.

2420
03:19:19,880 --> 03:19:22,760
those who use daily or almost every day.

2421
03:19:23,180 --> 03:19:27,460
With alcohol, heavy drinkers consume nearly 60% of alcohol sold.

2422
03:19:27,960 --> 03:19:31,600
Similarly, a Colorado study found that the top 20% of cannabis

2423
03:19:31,600 --> 03:19:35,340
users accounted for 67% of the sales.

2424
03:19:35,940 --> 03:19:38,480
Those who use less than once a month represent it

2425
03:19:38,480 --> 03:19:40,040
just 1% of the sales.

2426
03:19:40,780 --> 03:19:42,800
So I say this not to condemn the industry,

2427
03:19:43,120 --> 03:19:44,920
but to remind you that your goals are different.

2428
03:19:45,200 --> 03:19:47,640
There's as to make money yours should not be.

2429
03:19:47,920 --> 03:19:48,400
Thank you.

2430
03:19:48,400 --> 03:19:52,580
Thank you. That is all of our speakers. So we will go back to

2431
03:19:54,640 --> 03:19:59,960
Gonna do this like one at a time that we're gonna go through this if you're like I'll pop back up the slide

2432
03:20:02,120 --> 03:20:09,380
So I can go through it and see if there's consensus on them and then the rest we can have a discussion on.

2433
03:20:09,380 --> 03:20:13,700
Do you want to ask folks for their response?

2434
03:20:14,340 --> 03:20:24,200
Maybe we can do it like the last one where if individuals want to pull items and then we'll take care of the remainder of them and then address those on a one by one basis.

2435
03:20:24,200 --> 03:20:31,600
Okay, I have a question for I started because we have three things here, the decoyed enforcement operations and the

2436
03:20:31,600 --> 03:20:38,120
The cancer prevention and this scholarship program and all those three can those kind of quit those be go together and be

2437
03:20:38,900 --> 03:20:45,360
I mean we have the amount of appropriated, but it's like 260,000 total could it be

2438
03:20:46,240 --> 03:20:52,560
Could be used within flexible within within those things possibly or now is that not a possibility

2439
03:20:53,520 --> 03:20:58,380
Well, I think for the budgeting purposes it would need to be separate because they would

2440
03:20:58,380 --> 03:21:03,280
be different categories of funding. Certainly the council can discuss that and make changes

2441
03:21:03,280 --> 03:21:07,380
to how much they'd like to see for each of those items because they would need to, because

2442
03:21:07,380 --> 03:21:12,620
I was thinking that, you know, maybe the DQA program might need more money so because they

2443
03:21:12,620 --> 03:21:16,700
go to the prevention early intervention and pull some from there if they needed to have

2444
03:21:16,700 --> 03:21:20,720
more predictor, you know, or I just was wondering if that would be a possibility. So okay,

2445
03:21:20,720 --> 03:21:27,800
We'll go to my big challenge with those three, especially with number three on that list, which is scholarship program, right?

2446
03:21:28,540 --> 03:21:31,000
Because I don't think we would have a problem

2447
03:21:32,500 --> 03:21:34,520
Awarding 140,000 dollars in scholarships.

2448
03:21:35,540 --> 03:21:36,940
And so, so, forget it.

2449
03:21:38,120 --> 03:21:39,440
We can just go one by one.

2450
03:21:39,820 --> 03:21:40,060
But Kathy.

2451
03:21:40,060 --> 03:21:41,140
It's our mayor also.

2452
03:21:41,420 --> 03:21:42,400
There are a lot of who's reminding me too.

2453
03:21:42,680 --> 03:21:47,740
So with the decoy operations last meeting you approved the Jack funding, which was for

2454
03:21:47,740 --> 03:21:50,300
12,000 for decoy operations as well.

2455
03:21:50,480 --> 03:21:51,920
So it would be 32,000 available.

2456
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:56,040
That's a little better.

2457
03:21:57,980 --> 03:22:04,060
So I guess we'll go to the, so I guess I'll ask then who down here wants to have things pull.

2458
03:22:04,240 --> 03:22:07,260
I guess, we'll do like the last one, if, huh?

2459
03:22:07,740 --> 03:22:07,920
Okay.

2460
03:22:08,120 --> 03:22:08,520
I'll go to the buttons on.

2461
03:22:09,360 --> 03:22:10,180
Constable of Contreras.

2462
03:22:11,220 --> 03:22:11,580
Yes.

2463
03:22:11,580 --> 03:22:14,720
I'd like to pull Sheriff's Deputy and Blight Reduction Team.

2464
03:22:15,180 --> 03:22:16,000
Thank you.

2465
03:22:16,000 --> 03:22:23,980
I'm going to number these one two three to help me because you're going to pull Sheriff's

2466
03:22:23,980 --> 03:22:32,640
deputy okay and which is the other one light okay yeah number six plate okay and Councilman

2467
03:22:32,640 --> 03:22:40,340
Franklin I just wanted to say I support all these items okay okay and then I'll

2468
03:22:40,340 --> 03:22:47,840
Council Member Melendez. I'm also interested in pulling chair deputy and

2469
03:22:47,840 --> 03:22:53,720
blight reduction team five and six and then also discussing projects with

2470
03:22:53,720 --> 03:22:59,300
potential other funding sources the substance abuse recovery program. I'm not

2471
03:22:59,300 --> 03:23:04,340
sure how you would like that number but I'd like to discuss that one as well. Which

2472
03:23:04,340 --> 03:23:05,680
What are you talking about?

2473
03:23:06,360 --> 03:23:07,180
It's not on the list.

2474
03:23:08,760 --> 03:23:10,620
It's the next page.

2475
03:23:10,860 --> 03:23:14,100
The priorities for access cannabis revenues, the projects with potential.

2476
03:23:14,240 --> 03:23:15,480
Other funding sources.

2477
03:23:16,280 --> 03:23:19,680
The substance abuse recovery programs.

2478
03:23:20,880 --> 03:23:26,820
Other funding sources for that would be CDBG funds, which would take away from other programs.

2479
03:23:27,080 --> 03:23:28,400
I did kind of want to discuss that, right?

2480
03:23:28,520 --> 03:23:29,000
Okay.

2481
03:23:32,840 --> 03:23:33,040
Okay.

2482
03:23:33,180 --> 03:23:35,220
How about deputy mayor, you have?

2483
03:23:36,160 --> 03:23:49,220
I actually wanted to discuss that scholarship program a little more into in addition to the other items that my council members pulled so with that I would move to approve the balance of the recommendations and move on to the discussion on the remaining items.

2484
03:23:50,240 --> 03:23:50,720
Second.

2485
03:23:50,980 --> 03:23:51,240
Okay.

2486
03:23:51,680 --> 03:23:51,880
We have motion.

2487
03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:56,560
So we vote on those three things.

2488
03:23:57,920 --> 03:23:59,260
We have a motion to vote on those.

2489
03:23:59,460 --> 03:24:00,360
Please catch your votes.

2490
03:24:05,520 --> 03:24:05,600
Okay.

2491
03:24:05,600 --> 03:24:10,600
motion passes unanimously. So, then we'll go in order, first we'll go to number three, which is

2492
03:24:10,600 --> 03:24:16,120
deputy mayor, the scholarship program. Yeah, and I just had a question on that scholarship program.

2493
03:24:16,980 --> 03:24:20,640
I know that these funds are coming from excessive cannabis revenues, but I wasn't sure

2494
03:24:20,640 --> 03:24:27,160
is this scholarship to go to like a college or something, or could this be like a grant program

2495
03:24:27,160 --> 03:24:33,160
for like local sports teams that we want to send to tournaments and things? I mean, what are the

2496
03:24:33,160 --> 03:24:37,780
on fines for this particular scholarship because I know we have great sports teams and

2497
03:24:37,780 --> 03:24:41,320
you know a lot of different people who could use funds so I'm wondering if we can generalize

2498
03:24:41,320 --> 03:24:44,520
these or if they're going to be targeted for something super specific.

2499
03:24:45,140 --> 03:24:53,720
So the intent with what is proposed is to have the nonprofit organizations apply to us and indicate

2500
03:24:53,720 --> 03:24:58,660
how many people they would base for five scholarships to participate in a program.

2501
03:24:59,080 --> 03:24:59,940
So it could be a vaster.

2502
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:03,160
Today of things is long. And they're only available to non-profits.

2503
03:25:03,240 --> 03:25:09,120
It's not. The process at this point. Yeah, I, my family can certainly take direction from the council on that, but

2504
03:25:09,120 --> 03:25:13,640
intended at this point is non-profits. Whether it's sports legal or other extra-curricular activity.

2505
03:25:13,740 --> 03:25:20,820
But this could go to like our softball teams and football teams and stuff like that. If they qualify for like tournaments and Florida or something.

2506
03:25:21,200 --> 03:25:29,380
It's an avenue we've never had before. So I'm just trying to put it out there. If they apply for it and say, hey, we're taken 30 vissons with us to whatever they made.

2507
03:25:29,380 --> 03:25:35,960
They could I would imagine that folks are going to apply early on so they they wouldn't know that they're going to a tournament

2508
03:25:35,960 --> 03:25:40,940
Okay, but that they could say we want to apply for $5,000. That's going to cover

2509
03:25:41,980 --> 03:25:49,860
You know scholarships. Okay 50 youth and rolled in the program plus the costs for them to travel with us if they're if we make it to turn

2510
03:25:49,860 --> 03:25:53,580
Okay, so we we do want to allow some flexibility for some additional costs

2511
03:25:53,580 --> 03:25:59,060
That's perfect. So it doesn't have to be for an actual event. It can just be for an organization as long as they show you how they're going to allocate those funds

2512
03:25:59,060 --> 03:26:01,180
Yes, and then we're asking to report on a monthly base.

2513
03:26:01,180 --> 03:26:01,540
Patrick?

2514
03:26:02,040 --> 03:26:02,860
Yes, sir.

2515
03:26:03,080 --> 03:26:03,500
Go ahead.

2516
03:26:03,800 --> 03:26:04,260
Go ahead.

2517
03:26:04,520 --> 03:26:07,220
The primary goal from the staff perspective.

2518
03:26:07,420 --> 03:26:07,900
Yes, sir.

2519
03:26:07,900 --> 03:26:12,500
Is to get people scholarships to join those programs, to play soccer.

2520
03:26:12,760 --> 03:26:13,100
OK.

2521
03:26:13,320 --> 03:26:13,560
Football.

2522
03:26:13,900 --> 03:26:16,780
To go to the Boys and Girls Club after school programs.

2523
03:26:17,080 --> 03:26:22,700
And that, you know, and then the answer to your use might be if they're invited, because their team is going somewhere else.

2524
03:26:22,720 --> 03:26:23,020
Perfect.

2525
03:26:23,020 --> 03:26:24,280
So I just wanted to clarify.

2526
03:26:24,580 --> 03:26:29,040
It's not like we're going to have 100 people writing this letters on why we shouldn't send them to.

2527
03:26:29,040 --> 03:26:34,900
somewhere. It's perfect. Okay, so that's it. I don't need to change it in the I just want a little clarification on it. I

2528
03:26:35,420 --> 03:26:39,760
Move to approve that item is presented and less my other council people have questions. I'll second

2529
03:26:41,000 --> 03:26:42,560
Okay, I have I

2530
03:26:42,560 --> 03:26:45,760
Did I think I'd do any to clear this? Is it okay?

2531
03:26:47,000 --> 03:26:52,820
I was hoping that okay, okay, so I have a motion in a second. Please catch your votes on item number three

2532
03:26:58,460 --> 03:27:04,540
motion passes unanimously. They would take it to item number five, which is the Sheriff's

2533
03:27:04,540 --> 03:27:05,100
Deputy.

2534
03:27:07,900 --> 03:27:08,580
Council Member Franklin.

2535
03:27:09,080 --> 03:27:09,880
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2536
03:27:10,600 --> 03:27:12,300
This is a very important item.

2537
03:27:12,880 --> 03:27:19,580
In fact, according to the Public Policy Institute of California statewide, we have more than

2538
03:27:19,580 --> 03:27:21,180
two deputies per thousand.

2539
03:27:21,180 --> 03:27:26,980
While in the city of VISTA, we have approximately 0.9 per thousand.

2540
03:27:27,760 --> 03:27:33,340
So we have less than half of the average amount of policing in our city that the rest of the state has.

2541
03:27:34,360 --> 03:27:38,620
So in the last 15 years, I think we've added two deputies.

2542
03:27:39,360 --> 03:27:43,040
Our population is grown by over 15,000, and that's the same period of time.

2543
03:27:43,840 --> 03:27:45,480
And I think it is incredibly important.

2544
03:27:45,780 --> 03:27:50,240
And I think our residents demand that our sheriff's department is able to respond quickly.

2545
03:27:50,240 --> 03:27:54,820
quickly that we have low response times and I think having additional

2546
03:27:54,820 --> 03:27:58,580
deputies to do that is important. I think the mission of the

2547
03:27:58,580 --> 03:28:03,140
cops team to which we want to appoint this newest officer is very

2548
03:28:03,140 --> 03:28:07,080
important. I'm personally calling for the cops team to be made a

2549
03:28:07,080 --> 03:28:11,000
seven day a week program right now it only operates five days a week

2550
03:28:11,000 --> 03:28:15,180
and I think we need to have our cops team on the ground seven days a week

2551
03:28:15,180 --> 03:28:21,700
because the issues that the cops team is confronting are not five day week issues, they're

2552
03:28:21,700 --> 03:28:30,140
seven day week issues. Look, there are six deputy sheriffs on duty, sometimes in the patrol

2553
03:28:30,140 --> 03:28:37,420
division, to patrol the entire city. When you tell your voters that there are six deputy

2554
03:28:37,420 --> 03:28:43,700
sheriffs only patrolling the city, nobody that I've talked to finds that to be an acceptable

2555
03:28:43,700 --> 03:28:50,400
quantity. We have not done our duty to provide the funding and resources for sheriff's

2556
03:28:50,400 --> 03:28:57,200
deputies. It is critical that we continue to supply funding so that we can grow the

2557
03:28:57,200 --> 03:29:01,860
number of deputies sheriff serving our city to a reasonable quantity. We are way

2558
03:29:01,860 --> 03:29:07,320
under-resourced. Every deputy sheriff that you talk to will tell you including the

2559
03:29:07,320 --> 03:29:12,820
captain and the latinants and the sergeants. They will all tell you that they need more

2560
03:29:12,820 --> 03:29:16,460
sources they need more deputies to do their job and to do it safely.

2561
03:29:17,660 --> 03:29:24,340
And frankly, the cops team needs more to build the, you know, yeah, there's problems

2562
03:29:24,860 --> 03:29:28,720
with policing in America in California and right here in Vista.

2563
03:29:29,200 --> 03:29:32,720
And with the deputy sheriff's, there's culture that needs to be improved.

2564
03:29:32,860 --> 03:29:38,340
There's relationship with the community that needs to be improved, you know, in some respects,

2565
03:29:39,280 --> 03:29:46,000
We've got a lot of work ahead of us, but deep policing, which is the concept of not adding

2566
03:29:46,000 --> 03:29:52,520
police officers while your population grows, therefore reducing the number of deputies serving

2567
03:29:52,520 --> 03:29:57,500
each thousand residents, that is de facto deep policing.

2568
03:29:57,500 --> 03:29:59,960
If we are not adding deputy sheriffs

2569
03:30:00,050 --> 03:30:17,930
To meet the safety demands of our community, and we are supporting a policy of the policing. I do not support a policy of the policing. I think this is vitally important, and I'm asking every member of the council to support bringing this additional deputy sheriff on unanimously. Thank you for your consideration.

2570
03:30:20,170 --> 03:30:42,790
I just before I speak on this, I want to say I want to speak on how we were called to speak on this, which differs from the ARPA funds, when we have the discussion on the ARPA funds, the individual who pulled the item from consent calendar was the first one to speak, which would have been me in this situation.

2571
03:30:42,790 --> 03:30:47,910
and so. I understand that. I want to complain I was I had the reverse happen in me on one of the other

2572
03:30:47,910 --> 03:30:53,870
issues you were called on before and I had the first so and I pulled it so I'd same same issue

2573
03:30:53,870 --> 03:30:58,730
different what are thank you. So you say I didn't call on you first so that was what the problem was?

2574
03:30:58,730 --> 03:31:06,210
Yeah I'm just saying that there was a switch in how we when and how we are discussing this versus

2575
03:31:06,210 --> 03:31:13,950
how we discuss the ARPA funds, which if we're having a symmetrical type of discussion, I just want

2576
03:31:13,950 --> 03:31:19,050
to clarify, is it whoever presses the button first or is it the person who pulled the item?

2577
03:31:20,370 --> 03:31:25,090
It's a procedural question. I figured everybody gets a chance to speak, so I didn't know that

2578
03:31:25,090 --> 03:31:31,570
it was important the order exactly that you might have to speak. So I just want to clarify so that

2579
03:31:31,570 --> 03:31:37,750
I know that I got to press the request to speak versus being called on like how we did it before.

2580
03:31:38,090 --> 03:31:43,390
And that's how I was going, that's how I was going, because when I went there, that's totally fine.

2581
03:31:43,770 --> 03:31:44,690
So are we doing it?

2582
03:31:44,730 --> 03:31:50,350
Do we have to do requests to speak to be called on or is it the person who is the easiest way to do it?

2583
03:31:50,790 --> 03:31:54,630
Okay, I mean, because I did go down the line on the thing and then I just wrote down,

2584
03:31:54,630 --> 03:31:58,770
but I took you in the order that you're on the screen to ask who is pulling what?

2585
03:31:59,450 --> 03:32:06,090
So then correct. I just wanted to note that there's a difference in procedure than what was

2586
03:32:06,090 --> 03:32:12,810
anticipated and I just want to clarify for moving forward what I have to do to be able to speak

2587
03:32:13,130 --> 03:32:20,710
in a particular order because that's just the way that we do this. Just to clarify moving forward

2588
03:32:20,710 --> 03:32:26,250
I'm say, you know, I want to talk about white reduction and I want to get right on the docket immediately.

2589
03:32:26,250 --> 03:32:34,410
I got to press the request to speak, it's, I don't get called on first because I pulled, I was the member who pulled

2590
03:32:34,410 --> 03:32:42,450
Blight reduction from the list. Is that correct? I guess so, but I guess we ask who wanted, there are other people that there were several

2591
03:32:42,450 --> 03:32:47,890
people that were going to pull it. I have three names here that pulled it. So when I, when I went to the list that I

2592
03:32:47,890 --> 03:32:53,650
asked who to pull it, now I totally understand, I just want to make sure that I have clarification because it was, it is different

2593
03:32:53,650 --> 03:32:56,010
than I've been taking you by whoever pushes their button.

2594
03:32:56,130 --> 03:32:56,410
Perfect.

2595
03:32:56,630 --> 03:32:57,450
There's another level of view.

2596
03:32:57,790 --> 03:33:00,770
I just want to make sure that that's how we're doing it.

2597
03:33:00,950 --> 03:33:02,310
So that way I knew moving forward.

2598
03:33:02,350 --> 03:33:04,310
I did know it's so important who spoke first.

2599
03:33:04,770 --> 03:33:05,030
So what?

2600
03:33:05,830 --> 03:33:07,830
But it's not just your state leaders, right?

2601
03:33:07,970 --> 03:33:09,570
It's not necessarily that it's important.

2602
03:33:09,690 --> 03:33:10,650
It's that it's procedure.

2603
03:33:11,010 --> 03:33:13,350
So I just want to make sure that we have a symmetrical procedure.

2604
03:33:14,350 --> 03:33:19,230
But in any case, I have a few questions.

2605
03:33:22,030 --> 03:33:30,150
One of them is this figure of 0.9 deputies per thousand, it does not include the deputies

2606
03:33:30,150 --> 03:33:31,950
that's going to be starting in a few weeks.

2607
03:33:34,720 --> 03:33:35,600
So, that's your question.

2608
03:33:36,260 --> 03:33:42,220
Currently, if you're not including the captain of the two latinants, we have 89 deputies

2609
03:33:42,220 --> 03:33:43,640
out of the vistas station.

2610
03:33:44,320 --> 03:33:50,460
The deputy, we do have a copstepity through the Exodus agreement that will be starting

2611
03:33:50,460 --> 03:33:55,900
in September, so that would be 9, excuse me, I'm sorry, 90 deputies at the Vista Station.

2612
03:33:56,560 --> 03:34:01,980
Okay, yeah, I guess I'm not good at math, and that I can't do, I don't know if that's

2613
03:34:01,980 --> 03:34:02,880
0.9 percent.

2614
03:34:03,320 --> 03:34:08,340
It's essentially 0.9, we're looking at 100 and 102,000 population, but about 0.9, yes.

2615
03:34:08,340 --> 03:34:15,400
So it's actually correct that the city of Vista will have another cops deputy starting in

2616
03:34:15,400 --> 03:34:21,020
a few weeks. So it would be incorrect to say that we are not, we have not increased the amount

2617
03:34:21,020 --> 03:34:27,760
of deputies. What is also factual, I guess, would be that the city of VISTA is not paying

2618
03:34:27,760 --> 03:34:33,860
for that deputy in that's being paid for by the county. I just want to eliminate this to

2619
03:34:33,860 --> 03:34:39,420
the public because there was never at any point a discussion, a public discussion about this

2620
03:34:39,420 --> 03:34:43,420
deputy that's going to be starting in the city of VISTA that's an increase to the number

2621
03:34:43,420 --> 03:34:51,060
of deputies that we have in the city of Vista, it was a deal that was cut thanks to actually

2622
03:34:51,060 --> 03:34:57,120
I believe it's Council Member Franklin who cut this deal with the county so we will

2623
03:34:57,120 --> 03:34:59,960
be having one more cop's deputy starting in just if.

2624
03:35:01,560 --> 03:35:04,300
So I just want to make sure that that's on the record.

2625
03:35:06,340 --> 03:35:16,360
I would rather, I'd like some of the points that were made by our speakers today in regards to what are these funds being utilized for?

2626
03:35:17,540 --> 03:35:20,680
primarily they should be used for mitigation.

2627
03:35:22,480 --> 03:35:27,160
And I actually think the 4 million is too much money going to the general fund.

2628
03:35:27,280 --> 03:35:33,340
I wish we were to take a little bit more and be able to put it into more youth cannabis prevention

2629
03:35:33,340 --> 03:35:40,420
and early intervention because I know nobody here on this council wants kids to use cannabis.

2630
03:35:40,420 --> 03:35:47,460
There are detrimental effects to a growing brain and a growing body in the use of cannabis.

2631
03:35:48,220 --> 03:35:58,200
So I would be in favor of allocating the sheriff's deputy money of 275,000, which is a reoccurring cost.

2632
03:35:58,640 --> 03:36:00,630
Let's just be factual about that.

2633
03:36:00,630 --> 03:36:22,450
It is a reoccurring cost of $275,000 annually versus being able to have a lot more of our youth that are severely impacted in our community by our decision, which is the public's decision to have more cannabis in our community.

2634
03:36:22,450 --> 03:36:31,790
So I think we take that 275,000, and we put it either in number two, you've cannabis prevention

2635
03:36:31,790 --> 03:36:37,610
in early intervention or we put it in the scholarship program or a combination of that.

2636
03:36:37,770 --> 03:36:43,850
I really think if we want to get to the root cause of some of these issues, it's not going

2637
03:36:43,850 --> 03:36:45,210
to happen with the deputy.

2638
03:36:45,210 --> 03:37:02,970
There are many things that a deputy could help with, but having our youth have a more successful future, involves having very specific programs for them.

2639
03:37:03,470 --> 03:37:11,610
So, that's my recommendation on the allocated funds of 275,000.

2640
03:37:11,610 --> 03:37:17,730
on first-share for a share of steppity, and I want to say also that when we were discussing

2641
03:37:17,730 --> 03:37:23,990
our priorities for cannabis revenue, there didn't seem that there was a majority of the council

2642
03:37:23,990 --> 03:37:31,310
that approved a utilizing cannabis sales tax revenue for a share of steppity. So I am confused

2643
03:37:31,310 --> 03:37:37,350
as to why we're even discussing this at this time, but I'll leave my comments there. Thank you.

2644
03:37:39,970 --> 03:37:45,550
Thank you, Madam Mayor, and thank you to my colleagues on council for the discussion and for

2645
03:37:45,550 --> 03:37:47,450
staff for presenting this item.

2646
03:37:48,490 --> 03:37:55,370
First, I just want to thank the speakers and the community members who either wrote in or came into

2647
03:37:55,370 --> 03:37:56,130
speak.

2648
03:37:56,950 --> 03:37:59,550
I think that is really important discussion.

2649
03:37:59,790 --> 03:38:02,330
This is excess of funds, right?

2650
03:38:02,410 --> 03:38:06,470
This is one of the rare opportunities the community has to come together and say,

2651
03:38:06,470 --> 03:38:11,490
These are our dollars that we get to have as a community to invest in our community.

2652
03:38:12,170 --> 03:38:19,670
I've even spoken with individuals who purchase cannabis from some of our retailers, from some of our medical dispensaries.

2653
03:38:20,790 --> 03:38:31,310
And they've expressed, you know, grievances and frustrations with the exorbitant tax that they have to pay in order to safely access cannabis in our community.

2654
03:38:31,310 --> 03:38:43,790
And in having conversations about what these funds are meant to be used for, I received a lot of pushback regarding hiring another sheriff.

2655
03:38:44,870 --> 03:38:55,950
Thank you, Miss Brown, for sharing a very personal story, a very vulnerable story of some of the flaws of relying on law enforcement for safety.

2656
03:38:55,950 --> 03:39:24,330
And I think that while some of my colleagues are describing a removal of sheriff deputy from this item, as deep policing, I think that that is, you know, too much of a political statement to be had in this context because what we're discussing are the priorities for access cannabis revenues for special projects,

2657
03:39:24,330 --> 03:39:33,070
for special sources that are going to meet the communities needs in regards to issues regarding

2658
03:39:33,070 --> 03:39:40,530
cannabis. I understand we are going to be having a new COPS unit deputy come on within the next

2659
03:39:40,530 --> 03:39:46,890
couple of weeks, right? There's a lot of value that our COPS unit does bring to our community,

2660
03:39:47,630 --> 03:39:53,650
but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about what are the issues or gaps in our

2661
03:39:53,650 --> 03:39:59,710
community in regards to safety and in regards to cannabis.

2662
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:26,860
That we can use this access funds for in order to improve our community. I think that just blindly adding another sheriff's deputy, when one, we need to first be looking at are there other sources of revenue for that to address specifically adding another cop's unit deputy onto our payroll, essentially, right?

2663
03:40:27,640 --> 03:40:34,620
We can look at our entire budget and look for opportunities to add another cops, unit, share

2664
03:40:34,620 --> 03:40:43,180
of deputy, however, these funds are specifically for special projects that I don't think

2665
03:40:43,180 --> 03:40:44,580
a share of deputy is appropriate.

2666
03:40:45,240 --> 03:40:49,920
I think that some of the feedback from the community regarding what safety looks like and

2667
03:40:49,920 --> 03:40:54,980
feels like in the community looks like having increased lighting.

2668
03:40:54,980 --> 03:41:06,920
I want to make a note that three blocks worth of lighting, I can think of three blocks in District 3 off of all of that could use lighting.

2669
03:41:07,080 --> 03:41:11,800
And that's just a very small part of the city. So how are those funds going to be distributed?

2670
03:41:11,800 --> 03:41:26,160
I think that it would be a complete disregard of some of the communities concerns that they've been bringing forward to us for a very long time about what safety looks like for them.

2671
03:41:26,920 --> 03:41:41,100
To hire a new sheriff's deputy for a different program a different unit that isn't necessarily even connected to improving safety and regards to cannabis use in general our community.

2672
03:41:41,100 --> 03:41:48,840
Something that we see all the time we have residents come and talk to us about is lighting in our community and people

2673
03:41:48,840 --> 03:41:52,300
out in public using cannabis in public.

2674
03:41:52,720 --> 03:41:54,340
Things like and there's no enforcement for that.

2675
03:41:54,560 --> 03:41:56,940
We're not experiencing enforcement from that.

2676
03:41:57,540 --> 03:41:59,720
One of the things that we can do to help that is lighting.

2677
03:41:59,720 --> 03:42:10,020
I would just as much value, even more so, I would highly value taking away the use of these funds from a sheriff's deputy

2678
03:42:10,020 --> 03:42:17,060
and putting it towards adding six blocks worth of lighting instead of three blocks worth of lighting in our community.

2679
03:42:17,720 --> 03:42:20,760
Because that's going to be spread incredibly thin throughout our community.

2680
03:42:21,460 --> 03:42:27,960
I agree with Council Member Contreras and many of the other speakers who came here today who said that we need to invest more money

2681
03:42:27,960 --> 03:42:30,820
in youth prevention, youth programming.

2682
03:42:32,300 --> 03:42:34,920
And as our city manager pointed out,

2683
03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:40,580
we will have no problem sharing that $140,000

2684
03:42:40,580 --> 03:42:42,180
for scholarship funds.

2685
03:42:43,080 --> 03:42:45,940
So when we look at the actual youth of these funds

2686
03:42:45,940 --> 03:42:48,520
and how thin they truly are spread,

2687
03:42:50,220 --> 03:42:53,580
it is a surplus and I do understand that.

2688
03:42:54,460 --> 03:42:56,620
But there are already being spread very thin

2689
03:42:56,620 --> 03:42:58,180
through all these different programs.

2690
03:42:59,060 --> 03:43:03,540
I cannot justify endorsing hiring another sheriff when one.

2691
03:43:03,960 --> 03:43:06,860
It's not really meeting the need that is being addressed

2692
03:43:06,860 --> 03:43:07,840
in this funding.

2693
03:43:08,980 --> 03:43:13,000
Two, I understand that the ratio of sheriffs

2694
03:43:13,000 --> 03:43:18,080
to residents is lower than the state average,

2695
03:43:18,180 --> 03:43:20,300
but that does not correlate to safety necessarily.

2696
03:43:20,580 --> 03:43:22,320
I don't see any evidence of that.

2697
03:43:22,380 --> 03:43:25,900
I would love to see some evidence that the number of sheriffs

2698
03:43:25,900 --> 03:43:33,140
provided per resident, actually truly correlates to higher safety, where we do know that better

2699
03:43:33,140 --> 03:43:41,180
lighting does, right? And intervention does, very specifically, we know that. So not only is it not a

2700
03:43:41,180 --> 03:43:48,880
good use of these funds, it's not, you know, relevance to what safety looks like in our community,

2701
03:43:49,080 --> 03:43:55,200
it's a reoccurring cost. So next year when we discuss the surplus funds, are we again going,

2702
03:43:55,200 --> 03:44:01,800
have we already locked ourselves into an agreement with our, with in our shares contract?

2703
03:44:01,960 --> 03:44:06,020
We're not going to hire someone for, we're not going to hire someone for one year, right?

2704
03:44:06,120 --> 03:44:14,220
This would be an ongoing position versus, you know, continuing to year by year provide

2705
03:44:15,180 --> 03:44:19,740
scholarship programs, right, and decide that again at the next upcoming year.

2706
03:44:19,740 --> 03:44:26,060
But if we do decide to hire a sheriff deputy with these funds, that means that next year,

2707
03:44:27,100 --> 03:44:33,800
275,000 dollars less is going to those other programs that the community is asking for.

2708
03:44:34,160 --> 03:44:37,940
So I don't see any logical justification for it.

2709
03:44:37,940 --> 03:44:40,720
I don't see a political justification for it personally.

2710
03:44:41,360 --> 03:44:44,840
You know, I want to enhance safety in our community.

2711
03:44:45,660 --> 03:44:50,860
And I think that we can do that with a lot of the interventions that the community is asking for.

2712
03:44:51,260 --> 03:44:55,460
And I think we really need to look at what is the purpose of this funding.

2713
03:44:55,580 --> 03:44:58,800
What's the function of this excess cannabis revenue?

2714
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:16,500
That this truly fits into our goals. I would like to just see this removed. Let's come back to the table with seeing how, you know, maybe with some of the feedback that we're providing staff will see, you know, we can actually enhance our scholarship program and give more money to the scholarship program.

2715
03:45:17,000 --> 03:45:29,660
And if there is reasonable justification for hiring a new cop, sheriff deputy in the future, we do have other funding sources for that. And I want the community to know that we do have other funding sources for that.

2716
03:45:29,660 --> 03:45:34,540
it would be disingenuous to say that this is the only opportunity to provide for a

2717
03:45:34,540 --> 03:45:38,800
cop-share of deputy otherwise we're deeply seeing our community. That's not what's occurring.

2718
03:45:39,480 --> 03:45:44,280
What's occurring is that we have an excess amount of cannabis revenues that we get to use for

2719
03:45:44,280 --> 03:45:51,060
special programs hiring a sheriff's deputy for a cops unit is not a special program that I would be

2720
03:45:51,060 --> 03:45:56,060
endorsing. So those are my thoughts and comments. I really appreciate all the speakers. So very

2721
03:45:56,060 --> 03:46:05,060
discussion because this fund, this resource in our community is very valuable and we really

2722
03:46:05,060 --> 03:46:09,400
get one shot to have a conversation about this. So it's very important that the people

2723
03:46:09,400 --> 03:46:14,340
who did come to speak did speak for those who aren't here that wrote in. Thank you so much for

2724
03:46:14,340 --> 03:46:19,960
sharing your concerns. I'm hearing with the community is saying and I'm going to say no to this one.

2725
03:46:19,960 --> 03:46:22,240
I know to number five hiring a share of deputy.

2726
03:46:22,840 --> 03:46:23,440
Thank you.

2727
03:46:24,220 --> 03:46:25,140
Deputy Mayor Green.

2728
03:46:26,020 --> 03:46:27,500
Thank you so much, Madam Mayor.

2729
03:46:29,420 --> 03:46:32,380
First of all, I want to thank my law enforcement

2730
03:46:32,380 --> 03:46:33,720
share of step-udies.

2731
03:46:34,100 --> 03:46:36,280
When I think about safety, I think about law enforcement

2732
03:46:36,280 --> 03:46:36,940
to be honest.

2733
03:46:37,120 --> 03:46:39,440
I mean, I call 911 and the sirens come.

2734
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:42,580
I feel more safe when I'm in the presence of a share of

2735
03:46:42,580 --> 03:46:44,320
step-udie than when I'm under a street light personally.

2736
03:46:44,500 --> 03:46:45,820
So I'm going to say that.

2737
03:46:45,820 --> 03:46:47,540
I'm going to say the reason why this is on here

2738
03:46:47,540 --> 03:46:49,800
is share of step-udie is because law enforcement

2739
03:46:49,800 --> 03:46:53,820
in the safety do go hand in hand. I don't think you can say law enforcement in the safety.

2740
03:46:54,120 --> 03:46:59,100
Don't go hand in hand. I personally, my opinion is that that's not a practical statement.

2741
03:47:00,320 --> 03:47:02,880
With that said, do I have a sheriff's captain in the room here please?

2742
03:47:03,480 --> 03:47:06,200
I believe I do, correct? Or Lieutenant that can speak.

2743
03:47:06,500 --> 03:47:10,540
Sheriff, Lieutenant, Lieutenant, be there. Come on, Lieutenant. I have some questions for you.

2744
03:47:12,720 --> 03:47:17,760
So, it was said by my council member, several council members that law enforcement is

2745
03:47:17,760 --> 03:47:21,680
gonna, you know, help safety, it doesn't go hand in hand with safety, so I really want to hear

2746
03:47:21,680 --> 03:47:26,940
what my lieutenant says about law enforcement's direct correlation to safety number one. I'd

2747
03:47:26,940 --> 03:47:31,260
also like to hear Council Member Franklin said that all the lieutenant and all the captains

2748
03:47:31,260 --> 03:47:35,700
and all the deputies could use more resources and could use more deputies. We've had members of

2749
03:47:35,700 --> 03:47:39,780
the community saying that law enforcement doesn't want more deputies. They don't need more deputies

2750
03:47:39,780 --> 03:47:46,620
because that's not what helps with crime per se. So I am not a deputy. I do not have that

2751
03:47:46,620 --> 03:47:51,640
information and you are service so I defer to your knowledge so if you can please explain to

2752
03:47:51,640 --> 03:47:54,380
me some answers to those questions I would appreciate it.

2753
03:47:54,540 --> 03:47:55,780
All right well we're just like going to start.

2754
03:47:57,100 --> 03:48:01,180
I wasn't prepared to give a presentation on this tonight but I will do the best I can

2755
03:48:01,180 --> 03:48:03,440
and we're going to share it now until I have.

2756
03:48:03,760 --> 03:48:06,760
This is a very busy command and I call for service.

2757
03:48:07,080 --> 03:48:11,360
Do add up and the sheriff's deputy's do have extended calls for service times because of

2758
03:48:11,360 --> 03:48:14,440
the projects they tend to and the calls for service that go to.

2759
03:48:15,920 --> 03:48:20,160
So the city of Vista contracts with the sheriff's department

2760
03:48:20,160 --> 03:48:24,320
so as they're a progative, whether they want to have a contract

2761
03:48:24,320 --> 03:48:25,460
for another sheriff's deputy.

2762
03:48:26,400 --> 03:48:27,540
So that's entirely your progative.

2763
03:48:28,900 --> 03:48:30,680
I do feel it would be a value to the station,

2764
03:48:30,960 --> 03:48:34,160
and it does take workload off of other units and so forth.

2765
03:48:34,160 --> 03:48:37,640
And we do have a robust cops unit that deals with all

2766
03:48:37,640 --> 03:48:38,720
of your quality of life issues,

2767
03:48:38,980 --> 03:48:42,740
the marijuana, the dispensaries, alcohol, massage parlors,

2768
03:48:43,340 --> 03:48:51,220
homelessness is a huge problem as well too, I'm not sure where you would say law enforcement

2769
03:48:51,220 --> 03:48:53,200
does kind of go hand in hand with safety.

2770
03:48:53,560 --> 03:48:58,760
Well, that's what we are contracted for, and it is, you know, fair to say, I think Council

2771
03:48:58,760 --> 03:49:04,840
Miller Franklin, you know, we are a lower, I guess, per capita rate of deputy to the population,

2772
03:49:05,780 --> 03:49:12,520
And we are historically in a low, we are in the lowest crime per capita over the last

2773
03:49:12,520 --> 03:49:14,300
probably 20, 30, 40 years.

2774
03:49:14,820 --> 03:49:16,020
I don't know if that's going to stay that way.

2775
03:49:16,120 --> 03:49:22,980
So it is easy to say that it would be easy to not hire or decrease funding for police services

2776
03:49:22,980 --> 03:49:27,080
during those times when crime rate is low.

2777
03:49:27,460 --> 03:49:29,160
But back in the 1990s, it wasn't so low.

2778
03:49:29,320 --> 03:49:33,300
And I worked here in the 1990s, and I experienced that.

2779
03:49:33,300 --> 03:49:34,680
and it would have been nice to have more deputies.

2780
03:49:35,080 --> 03:49:39,320
And you are right, there are probably six or eight deputies

2781
03:49:39,320 --> 03:49:41,740
per shift, you know, to serve a community of, you know,

2782
03:49:41,860 --> 03:49:44,720
over 100,000 for a dedicated shift.

2783
03:49:45,760 --> 03:49:46,960
And that, some of that, you know,

2784
03:49:46,960 --> 03:49:49,620
taking a consideration, set call relief, you know,

2785
03:49:49,620 --> 03:49:51,560
vacations and so forth, a comp time,

2786
03:49:51,720 --> 03:49:54,260
people taking off and people on the injured duty,

2787
03:49:54,340 --> 03:49:57,560
you know, people on light duty, pregnancies and so forth.

2788
03:49:58,820 --> 03:49:59,940
So, we do fill, you know, back.

2789
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:05,480
All in with people for over time and so forth, but it doesn't pack the staffing levels at times.

2790
03:50:06,140 --> 03:50:14,120
And do you happen to know, my nor crime weight was constantly decreasing over the past years. Do you have the crime stats for the last year?

2791
03:50:14,340 --> 03:50:16,180
We on upwards swing, or we still on a downward swing?

2792
03:50:16,420 --> 03:50:21,180
I think we're kind of just, well, last year was kind of an anomaly, you guys know, recognized that.

2793
03:50:21,180 --> 03:50:29,980
It's hard to really compare this year with last year, so we'd have to compare it with the year before, but I think we're at a number of 15 or 14 per 100, so far.

2794
03:50:29,980 --> 03:50:32,520
And I think it's been generally going down.

2795
03:50:32,880 --> 03:50:34,600
I know that this had come out a couple of years ago.

2796
03:50:34,660 --> 03:50:35,980
It would be very happy with 16.

2797
03:50:36,660 --> 03:50:42,220
And when my captain came in, he was kind of touted with,

2798
03:50:42,840 --> 03:50:44,480
you know, you're never going to see below 16.

2799
03:50:44,760 --> 03:50:46,800
And now we're, I think, 15 or 14 and so forth.

2800
03:50:47,320 --> 03:50:50,280
So I don't imagine it's going to stay at 14 indefinitely,

2801
03:50:50,500 --> 03:50:51,240
but we'll see what that goes.

2802
03:50:51,660 --> 03:50:54,600
I think some of that is due to some of the decriminalization

2803
03:50:54,600 --> 03:50:56,420
and legislative changes over the years, too.

2804
03:50:56,420 --> 03:50:58,760
So things that we used to arrest people for,

2805
03:50:58,760 --> 03:51:04,600
take enforcement action on. We do not anymore. We do have a more robust, you know,

2806
03:51:04,860 --> 03:51:09,060
cops, you know, and other resources in terms of the community outreach with our social

2807
03:51:09,060 --> 03:51:13,440
workers and the Exodus program and services that we never provided before. Our

2808
03:51:13,440 --> 03:51:17,380
Purp clinicians have increased dramatically over the years, where when I worked here,

2809
03:51:17,480 --> 03:51:21,420
we had one Purp clinicians for North County, and now we have two clinicians at the

2810
03:51:21,420 --> 03:51:22,570
station, just by itself.

2811
03:51:23,780 --> 03:51:26,980
Perfect. Well, I definitely appreciate all the information that you gave me from that aspect.

2812
03:51:27,460 --> 03:51:29,120
I'm kind of on the middle of the road here.

2813
03:51:29,120 --> 03:51:31,160
As I've written along with your sheriff's deputies,

2814
03:51:31,280 --> 03:51:33,500
I know the workload that's on them.

2815
03:51:33,600 --> 03:51:36,300
Last time it was before us to come up with a sheriff's

2816
03:51:36,300 --> 03:51:37,500
deputies at this price tag.

2817
03:51:37,860 --> 03:51:39,840
I heard from the community that parks

2818
03:51:39,840 --> 03:51:41,200
were where our concerns were.

2819
03:51:41,360 --> 03:51:43,880
And I think if you look online on the Facebooks

2820
03:51:43,880 --> 03:51:46,820
and all that stuff, you see where a lot of the concern

2821
03:51:46,820 --> 03:51:47,600
was what it had park.

2822
03:51:47,680 --> 03:51:50,560
And I had initially presented, let's have two park ranges.

2823
03:51:50,680 --> 03:51:52,120
Somebody just concentrate on the parks

2824
03:51:52,120 --> 03:51:55,180
because we can't constantly have our sheriff's deputies in there.

2825
03:51:55,180 --> 03:51:59,980
And, you know, that was something that I had, but I do, I do feel that the Sheriff's definitely

2826
03:51:59,980 --> 03:52:05,100
protect our community, but again, since this is something that we revisit every year,

2827
03:52:05,260 --> 03:52:07,620
I want to make sure that we have the highest and best use of our funds.

2828
03:52:07,940 --> 03:52:12,720
And as you say, it's the progative of the jurisdiction on if they need another Sheriff's

2829
03:52:12,720 --> 03:52:15,680
Deputy or not, and, you know, that's obviously a...

2830
03:52:15,680 --> 03:52:19,980
So I think sometimes what people may not understand too is when you contract with the Sheriff's

2831
03:52:19,980 --> 03:52:22,640
Department, it's not just contracting with patrol deputies, right?

2832
03:52:22,640 --> 03:52:25,220
So if we have a homicide, you get a homicide team.

2833
03:52:26,120 --> 03:52:26,860
Where do we store evidence?

2834
03:52:27,320 --> 03:52:27,980
We have an evidence storage.

2835
03:52:28,300 --> 03:52:29,780
We have contract tow services.

2836
03:52:30,520 --> 03:52:31,760
We have, as you want to helicopter over here,

2837
03:52:31,780 --> 03:52:32,340
we have a helicopter.

2838
03:52:32,820 --> 03:52:36,160
We have, if we had an active shooter or a barricade suspect,

2839
03:52:36,340 --> 03:52:38,040
we have a squatting to come out and handle the services.

2840
03:52:39,020 --> 03:52:41,360
So it's a, you have an ancillary services

2841
03:52:41,360 --> 03:52:43,740
that are provided with the sheriff's department

2842
03:52:44,360 --> 03:52:45,760
for all these additional services.

2843
03:52:46,180 --> 03:52:47,420
Yes, you don't see day to day,

2844
03:52:47,560 --> 03:52:49,940
but when they occur, people want sheriff's WZR.

2845
03:52:49,940 --> 03:52:53,540
Yeah, the infrastructure that our San Diego Sheriff's had is amazing and one of my first

2846
03:52:53,540 --> 03:52:57,640
meetings with I think it was Mike Barnett who was the under sheriff had to do with their

2847
03:52:57,640 --> 03:53:02,560
policing strategies within the city and that was before body cams came on you guys and

2848
03:53:02,560 --> 03:53:06,360
all that stuff and I feel like over the last five years the way that the Sheriff's department

2849
03:53:06,360 --> 03:53:09,820
has police VISTA has changed and shifted more to a community-based policing.

2850
03:53:09,900 --> 03:53:14,280
We have a lot more events now with, you know, coffee with the captain, trunk or tree, you

2851
03:53:14,280 --> 03:53:17,780
know, you guys are showing up to schools to give high fives and stuff at a, you know, days

2852
03:53:17,780 --> 03:53:22,020
with our community, so I really like the transition of the share of the department of more

2853
03:53:22,020 --> 03:53:26,240
of a community-based policing, and I do feel a lot safer with the share of the department

2854
03:53:26,240 --> 03:53:30,860
knowing that they're out there working in the community, from a 207, and that's all I have

2855
03:53:30,860 --> 03:53:37,900
for you from question why, so I don't think any stand-up here. I'm going to ask him a question.

2856
03:53:37,900 --> 03:53:39,540
I just want him to have to stand there while I keep talking.

2857
03:53:39,540 --> 03:53:40,800
And so.

2858
03:53:41,740 --> 03:53:42,060
Okay.

2859
03:53:42,680 --> 03:53:42,860
Okay.

2860
03:53:43,200 --> 03:53:43,580
Tell us a thing.

2861
03:53:46,200 --> 03:53:52,000
I just wanted to ask, so if you could illuminate a little bit how the cops team interfaces

2862
03:53:52,000 --> 03:54:00,200
with our marijuana dispensaries, we do have a dedicated marijuana deputy afforded marijuana

2863
03:54:00,200 --> 03:54:00,780
dispensaries.

2864
03:54:01,300 --> 03:54:07,180
They do, you know, they work collaboratively with the city, the code enforcement, and they

2865
03:54:07,180 --> 03:54:16,040
We checked on the marijuana dispenser. We do have some of these opportunities for the calls

2866
03:54:16,040 --> 03:54:21,060
for service. We don't want obviously the youth going in there and we try and keep it obviously

2867
03:54:21,060 --> 03:54:25,040
at certain age limit for legal dispensaries and that sort of thing.

2868
03:54:25,540 --> 03:54:29,940
I guess point I wanted to make is that the cops team has a direct nexus with our cannabis

2869
03:54:29,940 --> 03:54:36,180
dispensaries. I would say a lighting program doesn't necessarily unless it's illuminating

2870
03:54:36,180 --> 03:54:39,940
the dispensary itself may not have as direct an access.

2871
03:54:40,660 --> 03:54:43,180
Also, we're just as crime, I supported it,

2872
03:54:44,020 --> 03:54:45,180
and I want more lighting,

2873
03:54:45,820 --> 03:54:49,400
but the nexus may be a little stronger with the cops team.

2874
03:54:50,280 --> 03:54:54,060
And also, the cannabis enforcement role,

2875
03:54:54,720 --> 03:54:56,020
we've taken a cops deputy,

2876
03:54:56,420 --> 03:54:59,580
and we've allocated part of his or her time to that duty.

2877
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:05,480
Which has reduced the amount that that deputy has to do the other functions of the cops placing them. Is that right?

2878
03:55:05,760 --> 03:55:07,900
Sure. And it takes some of the load off the patrol team as well.

2879
03:55:08,060 --> 03:55:14,860
So in a way, bringing this deputy on would help to replace some of that time that we've devoted to the cannabis enforcement activity.

2880
03:55:15,160 --> 03:55:17,320
I've depend on where to allocate that deputy, but yeah.

2881
03:55:18,100 --> 03:55:19,560
Lieutenant, thank you very much.

2882
03:55:20,320 --> 03:55:27,620
Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate your information. I don't have any more questions for you, but I do still want to speak on the side and while I have it. Thank you so much.

2883
03:55:29,060 --> 03:55:36,840
Man, so, you know, $275,000 is a lot of money to allocate over a residual amount of time.

2884
03:55:37,700 --> 03:55:40,600
I do love my sheriff's deputies.

2885
03:55:42,340 --> 03:55:43,940
I do love what they bring to the community.

2886
03:55:44,700 --> 03:55:50,640
I would love, I don't, I don't approve of reallocating that funding to youth cannabis or

2887
03:55:50,640 --> 03:55:52,580
to increasing lighting quite frankly.

2888
03:55:52,640 --> 03:55:56,640
I feel like what the sheriff's deputies bring what the cops bring is an actual body

2889
03:55:56,640 --> 03:56:02,240
to the streets that's actually enforcing and providing enforcement to the problem in the community.

2890
03:56:02,860 --> 03:56:08,620
I do feel like park rangers again would provide that enforcement.

2891
03:56:08,760 --> 03:56:10,800
We actually get two park rangers for the cost of one deputy.

2892
03:56:12,000 --> 03:56:19,000
So I actually, for this, these particular funds and mind you, this year we only have $1.1 million in excess funds,

2893
03:56:19,320 --> 03:56:22,260
which we've only had medical marijuana and we just converted recreational.

2894
03:56:22,260 --> 03:56:24,820
I anticipate there's going to be additional excess funds.

2895
03:56:25,220 --> 03:56:27,020
We also have surplus funds at the end of the year.

2896
03:56:27,320 --> 03:56:31,680
And one more thing that I want to say is that we have had two new sheriff's deputies

2897
03:56:31,680 --> 03:56:33,020
over the last two years.

2898
03:56:33,460 --> 03:56:37,460
One of them was for free, thank you, Council Member Franklin, and actually it wasn't for free.

2899
03:56:37,520 --> 03:56:42,080
We have an exodus site here where our sheriffs are going to be able to take 51-50s and

2900
03:56:42,080 --> 03:56:43,780
get back on the road to protect the community.

2901
03:56:44,120 --> 03:56:49,700
So it was actually a very smart, you know, deal per se that we worked out with the county, county

2902
03:56:49,700 --> 03:56:53,620
that saved the community $275,000 on that.

2903
03:56:53,800 --> 03:56:56,460
So we have hired two deputies within the last couple years.

2904
03:56:56,780 --> 03:57:00,580
That is two more than we hired over a 10 year period before.

2905
03:57:00,740 --> 03:57:03,640
So I feel like you've done a great job adding to the force.

2906
03:57:03,900 --> 03:57:05,260
But if we look at when the last time

2907
03:57:05,260 --> 03:57:08,580
was we had park rangers in our parks, I don't know when that is.

2908
03:57:08,940 --> 03:57:10,220
And every time I look on next door

2909
03:57:10,220 --> 03:57:11,540
and every time I look on Facebook,

2910
03:57:12,120 --> 03:57:13,840
it's like, hey, our kids can't play in the parks.

2911
03:57:13,920 --> 03:57:15,440
Hey, this is the bathroom's dirty.

2912
03:57:15,440 --> 03:57:17,580
He's this, and I really feel like as a city,

2913
03:57:17,580 --> 03:57:22,260
We should have dedicated park rangers where it's their job to community building our parks.

2914
03:57:22,280 --> 03:57:25,080
Find out who's walking their kids in the parks, who's walking their dogs in the parks,

2915
03:57:25,200 --> 03:57:28,240
who's in the park, who shouldn't be in the park, our deputies are spread then.

2916
03:57:28,440 --> 03:57:32,760
And one more deputy isn't going to be able to focus on that particular problem.

2917
03:57:33,140 --> 03:57:35,900
And another thing is cannabis is smoked, guess where.

2918
03:57:36,360 --> 03:57:37,640
In a lot of parks, okay?

2919
03:57:38,000 --> 03:57:41,720
So this does, I feel like we're hand in hand with safety.

2920
03:57:42,200 --> 03:57:44,900
It's something that the community would support, it's something that community wants.

2921
03:57:44,900 --> 03:57:49,620
And it's something that I feel like my counsel should support, because we're not saying we don't appreciate our sheriff's deputies.

2922
03:57:49,900 --> 03:57:55,160
We don't think you do a great job. It's just that we are on a downward trend of crime wise.

2923
03:57:55,320 --> 03:57:59,200
We did just hire two more deputies that we don't know how they're going to affect it.

2924
03:57:59,320 --> 03:58:02,640
And maybe next year, when we have this conversation, we're like, look, we have two partners.

2925
03:58:02,920 --> 03:58:07,140
They did great. We could use another deputy that would be three hired over the last three or four years,

2926
03:58:07,320 --> 03:58:14,880
which is three more than's been hired over 18 years. So as much as I love my sheriff's department with these extra funds right now,

2927
03:58:14,880 --> 03:58:24,780
I don't feel like allocating money for one additional sheriff's deputies going to make as big an impact for the community with our cannabis funds as this would and to be able to tell my community

2928
03:58:24,780 --> 03:58:29,820
These cannabis funds are paying for park rangers in your parks every time your kids are in the parks walking around

2929
03:58:29,820 --> 03:58:35,040
There's going to be a park ranger check in we'll put them on a shift however that works okay, but to be able to say

2930
03:58:35,040 --> 03:58:40,280
This money is directly going for that and you can see the trucks driving around you can see the rangers driving around

2931
03:58:40,280 --> 03:58:44,100
As much as I feel like one more cops deputy would be great we have two more right now

2932
03:58:44,100 --> 03:58:47,440
Let them get in the swing of things next year when we really visit this

2933
03:58:47,440 --> 03:58:53,060
I'm still gonna be on the council cuz I'm here for a little bit still and I may be in support of a deputy next year

2934
03:58:53,060 --> 03:58:58,060
But I think the best use of these funds right now and I was out voted last time when we got a deputy

2935
03:58:58,600 --> 03:59:02,220
Is for a park range or because that's what the community's been screaming for so

2936
03:59:02,840 --> 03:59:04,260
for me I

2937
03:59:04,260 --> 03:59:06,800
Pretty much approve everything on this list

2938
03:59:07,640 --> 03:59:13,120
except for the solidification for 275 for Deputy, I would rather see it come back for a park

2939
03:59:13,120 --> 03:59:17,840
ranger, and I think that we could show a bigger benefit to the community for two park

2940
03:59:17,840 --> 03:59:23,960
rangers at this point in time based off of data. And that's what decisions come down to

2941
03:59:23,960 --> 03:59:29,040
is data. It's not politics. It's not whether you're pro-deplicing or not. It's like, what's

2942
03:59:29,040 --> 03:59:33,720
best for Vista? And right now what's best for Vista in my opinion is two park rangers over

2943
03:59:35,000 --> 03:59:39,420
with everything else. I approve everything else. I think it's great, but that's my take on it.

2944
03:59:40,040 --> 03:59:44,000
And I do feel like you bring safety, but I feel like that brings safety. And I feel like that's a great compromise.

2945
03:59:44,460 --> 03:59:49,140
And we got the lights, we got the scholarships, we got safety, and then we can look at it at another time.

2946
03:59:49,300 --> 03:59:53,180
So that's my recommendation. So I do not approve the deputy on this list.

2947
03:59:53,180 --> 03:59:59,960
Because they're frankly, you're next up, but on the Exodus, the 51-50s, the

2948
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:06,480
And the deputy that the free deputy we have is not a full-time deputy. He's not there. He's there seven days a week?

2949
04:00:06,740 --> 04:00:07,920
Well, not seven days a week.

2950
04:00:08,360 --> 04:00:12,120
He has part-time coverage, but the 5150s are every day. Is that right?

2951
04:00:12,560 --> 04:00:21,760
So the deputy is a full-time equivalent who work 48 hours a week in the city of ISTA. So yes, on the full-time.

2952
04:00:21,800 --> 04:00:27,720
But that's like three or four days. But the 5150s are at 24 hours. Isn't the excess now a 24 hour?

2953
04:00:27,720 --> 04:00:29,880
It is a 24 hour facility.

2954
04:00:30,260 --> 04:00:33,920
Right, so even though we got a deputy, it's not going to cover that all the time.

2955
04:00:34,040 --> 04:00:40,760
It takes at least what six deputies to cover seven days a week.

2956
04:00:41,040 --> 04:00:42,500
Seven days with relief.

2957
04:00:42,500 --> 04:00:45,120
24 hours is a six deputies.

2958
04:00:45,640 --> 04:00:46,520
Five if not more.

2959
04:00:47,100 --> 04:00:54,460
But what this deputy that is from the Exodus contract is a cop's deputy that is assigned to the team.

2960
04:00:55,740 --> 04:01:02,040
So, listen, I really want to hire this additional deputy, it's very important to me.

2961
04:01:02,880 --> 04:01:08,240
I will trade you one blight reduction team and we will make them park rangers if you

2962
04:01:08,240 --> 04:01:10,660
will approve of the sheriff's deputy.

2963
04:01:12,540 --> 04:01:15,420
We need to increase the amount of deputy serving our community.

2964
04:01:16,160 --> 04:01:20,440
You've got your two sheriff's rangers right there, your two park rangers right there on

2965
04:01:20,440 --> 04:01:21,080
the blight reduction.

2966
04:01:27,380 --> 04:01:29,200
I see, are you through?

2967
04:01:30,080 --> 04:01:31,280
Make sure right down in a fake light.

2968
04:01:31,820 --> 04:01:32,360
It comes my fake light.

2969
04:01:32,680 --> 04:01:37,840
And before I finish, I would make a motion that we approve the Sheriff's Deputy Item.

2970
04:01:42,840 --> 04:01:46,020
Okay, I'll second that for you.

2971
04:01:46,840 --> 04:01:48,280
And then we'll go down the line here.

2972
04:01:49,160 --> 04:01:51,580
So, Council Member Melendez, thank you, Madam Mayor.

2973
04:01:51,740 --> 04:01:58,680
I wanted to take a quick moment to clarify some of my comments that were misconstrued.

2974
04:01:58,680 --> 04:02:05,500
I did not say that sheriffs were not part of safety, I explained that the community is asking

2975
04:02:05,500 --> 04:02:10,840
for specific forms of safety interventions that have been long overdue for investment.

2976
04:02:11,400 --> 04:02:15,980
And I agree that the park range resolution is one of them.

2977
04:02:16,520 --> 04:02:22,340
We did kind of get ahead of that because originally the blight reduction team was my understanding

2978
04:02:22,340 --> 04:02:33,100
supposed to be a park-ranger position, but staff's analysis didn't quite see how that would

2979
04:02:33,100 --> 04:02:39,840
be appropriate. I think it's still worth discussing. I in fact think that there are both of

2980
04:02:39,840 --> 04:02:45,200
those items, a blight reduction team throughout the entire city, as well as a specific presence

2981
04:02:45,200 --> 04:02:56,240
of a authority in the parks to provide safety as well as approachability to the community

2982
04:02:56,240 --> 04:02:57,280
is appropriate.

2983
04:02:58,360 --> 04:03:04,860
So to clarify, the sheriff's deputies in our community are absolutely providing safety

2984
04:03:04,860 --> 04:03:14,920
and law enforcement, however, that's not necessarily essential to fund through this excess

2985
04:03:14,920 --> 04:03:23,620
of his dollars. That was the main point of my comments. I am definitely looking forward to discussing

2986
04:03:23,620 --> 04:03:32,140
what it would look like to hire some park ranger positions and also talk about

2987
04:03:32,140 --> 04:03:37,680
black reduction. I know that we discussed that during our last item, how there's an effort to

2988
04:03:37,680 --> 04:03:43,020
do clean up and have a more integrated downtown and how that is also something that we need to see

2989
04:03:43,020 --> 04:03:44,720
throughout the entire city.

2990
04:03:45,060 --> 04:03:46,980
So there's clearly a lot of needs here

2991
04:03:46,980 --> 04:03:50,240
that are being spread very, very thin.

2992
04:03:50,540 --> 04:03:55,840
And I do want to clarify that safety and law enforcement

2993
04:03:55,840 --> 04:03:57,480
while they overlap.

2994
04:03:58,280 --> 04:04:01,500
We want to recognize what the community has been telling us,

2995
04:04:01,680 --> 04:04:03,560
which is that there's a lot of ways

2996
04:04:03,560 --> 04:04:06,580
that we can practice safety in our community,

2997
04:04:07,320 --> 04:04:11,040
that does not necessitate hiring a new sheriff.

2998
04:04:11,040 --> 04:04:19,100
And I think that some of these solutions, like, increased lighting to reduce crime and hiring

2999
04:04:19,100 --> 04:04:23,480
an approachable park ranger could be solutions for that.

3000
04:04:23,620 --> 04:04:26,400
So I know that we have other items that we want to get to.

3001
04:04:26,820 --> 04:04:30,200
We also have a vote to look forward to and there's other speakers.

3002
04:04:30,420 --> 04:04:31,500
Thank you.

3003
04:04:31,780 --> 04:04:32,720
Tell us about the contraris.

3004
04:04:36,610 --> 04:04:40,550
So I just want to state that I think it's really inappropriate to try and make deals up

3005
04:04:40,550 --> 04:04:44,450
in the way in the fashion that it was stated a little bit earlier.

3006
04:04:47,290 --> 04:04:47,810
Listen.

3007
04:04:49,850 --> 04:04:50,610
Sheriff's deputy.

3008
04:04:51,310 --> 04:04:55,730
Actually, the lieutenant, I was able to have a good conversation with him.

3009
04:04:55,730 --> 04:04:59,730
When I went to go visit the facility at Luzzeran Park.

3010
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:05,360
We're the gang enforcement task force is out of. And that facility is looking pretty

3011
04:05:06,000 --> 04:05:14,320
haggard. I would rather, instead of having a re-accurring cost of $275,000 for a sheriff's

3012
04:05:14,320 --> 04:05:20,840
deputy, I would rather be able to maybe create a new substation closer to downtown.

3013
04:05:25,740 --> 04:05:26,460
There's

3014
04:05:26,460 --> 04:05:37,880
increase public safety, when it comes to historic crime levels in our city, I represent

3015
04:05:37,880 --> 04:05:42,640
district one. We have a triangle of crime that hasn't moved and guess what else hasn't

3016
04:05:42,640 --> 04:05:49,600
happened there. There's no lighting. So it's not like we're going to pay a deputy to go shine

3017
04:05:49,600 --> 04:05:58,400
In a light 24-7, we can really look at different public safety mitigation strategies that

3018
04:05:58,400 --> 04:05:58,660
go.

3019
04:05:59,060 --> 04:06:01,240
The return on investment is real.

3020
04:06:01,860 --> 04:06:10,500
The community has been asking for it, and I do think we have a responsibility to utilize

3021
04:06:10,500 --> 04:06:17,520
these funds in an appropriate manner, having a recurring cost is just not an appropriate

3022
04:06:17,520 --> 04:06:18,760
way to do that.

3023
04:06:18,760 --> 04:06:24,840
I mean, we're about to come up at the end of our five-year contract with the deputies.

3024
04:06:26,800 --> 04:06:32,900
If we want to look at having another sheriff's deputies, we should be looking at a different

3025
04:06:32,900 --> 04:06:34,180
source of funding.

3026
04:06:34,780 --> 04:06:42,580
Canobus sales tax revenue needs to go into mitigation strategies that the community has endorsed.

3027
04:06:44,020 --> 04:06:51,540
You know, talking about trying to highlight the link between cannabis and the share of

3028
04:06:51,540 --> 04:06:52,160
StepiD.

3029
04:06:52,800 --> 04:06:57,740
Well, you know, there was a point in time where cannabis was not legal here in the city

3030
04:06:57,740 --> 04:07:05,340
of California of Vista and we were spending a lot of money in a lot of time with our

3031
04:07:05,340 --> 04:07:10,360
deputies having to go and shut down these illegal dispensaries.

3032
04:07:10,360 --> 04:07:16,060
it was taxing on them because of the way that the process that you have to go through to

3033
04:07:16,060 --> 04:07:21,260
shut them down. But the last time we spoke about cannabis, I asked the question about how many

3034
04:07:21,260 --> 04:07:28,720
illegal dispensaries we have in the answer was zero. So I just don't see a justification for a

3035
04:07:28,720 --> 04:07:36,340
reoccurring cost of 275,000. You know we already have a 27 million dollar contract that's annually

3036
04:07:36,340 --> 04:07:45,900
and we've added more deputies and we have lower crime rates so the justification is just

3037
04:07:45,900 --> 04:07:52,380
not there and I need to be responsible to the public dollars and to what I hear from

3038
04:07:52,380 --> 04:08:02,040
people and I talk to a lot of people I'm sure we all do but I I'm just not hearing

3039
04:08:02,040 --> 04:08:09,140
that they want a deputy over having more lighting in neighborhoods, over having, you know,

3040
04:08:09,280 --> 04:08:12,180
our youth delinquency rate moved down.

3041
04:08:12,220 --> 04:08:13,320
That is a problem.

3042
04:08:13,500 --> 04:08:20,640
We're a badge and a gun isn't necessarily helping that rate of youth delinquency here in

3043
04:08:20,640 --> 04:08:25,960
the city of Vista go down, but guess what could scholarship programs, right?

3044
04:08:26,660 --> 04:08:35,060
So, I just think we need to be a little bit more responsible with the public's money and not have these types of reoccurring costs.

3045
04:08:35,140 --> 04:08:44,700
If we want to swap out Sheriff's Deputy 275,000 for allocating funds towards a new substation closer to downtown,

3046
04:08:45,380 --> 04:08:47,300
that's a conversation I think we should have.

3047
04:08:47,300 --> 04:09:06,500
But to add another deputy, with the information that the Lieutenant provided us, with the information that we know with the great way that Council Member Franklin was able to get us a deputy for free, I just don't, I can't support that.

3048
04:09:08,200 --> 04:09:09,500
Deputy Mayor Green.

3049
04:09:10,920 --> 04:09:11,100
All right.

3050
04:09:11,520 --> 04:09:14,240
So thank you everybody and thank you so much for clarifying

3051
04:09:14,240 --> 04:09:14,900
Councilman Mondays.

3052
04:09:15,040 --> 04:09:16,900
I wasn't meaning to insult you in any way.

3053
04:09:16,920 --> 04:09:19,740
I just wrote down that law enforcement wasn't tied to safety,

3054
04:09:19,740 --> 04:09:20,740
so I wanted to specify.

3055
04:09:21,140 --> 04:09:23,220
So I appreciate you clarifying that.

3056
04:09:23,980 --> 04:09:27,180
I don't think that a sheriff's deputy in lieu of lights

3057
04:09:27,180 --> 04:09:29,880
or in lieu of a scholarship program is a good idea either,

3058
04:09:30,020 --> 04:09:32,000
but I think that a sheriff's deputy in addition

3059
04:09:32,000 --> 04:09:35,320
to all of that is beneficial.

3060
04:09:35,320 --> 04:09:41,420
and I think if we tell the community that we're spending the $1.13 million in excess revenue

3061
04:09:41,420 --> 04:09:46,120
and we're getting them all of this stuff and one more deputy and possibly two more

3062
04:09:46,120 --> 04:09:50,980
park rangers and park restroom maintenance and all that good stuff, we're not necessarily saying

3063
04:09:50,980 --> 04:09:56,400
we're only doing one thing, we're saying we're doing a lot of things. I also speak to a lot of people

3064
04:09:56,400 --> 04:09:59,160
and, you know, I have people who love share

3065
04:09:59,160 --> 04:09:59,960
celebrities and you don't think-

3066
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:29,980
We have enough sheriff's deputies, and I know Councilman Franklin and Councilman Ritter probably speak to those same people. We all run in different circles. And I think that's why our council is so well balanced is because we have people who speak with different people in different circles, which is why we have all of these options listed here. So I really feel like with this excess cannabis money, we want to be able to allocate the funds in such a way that it makes all avenues of our community feel like they were heard and that they were given something. And if this breaks down where we can also have park rangers in a

3067
04:10:29,980 --> 04:10:36,400
parks and it's being paid for by excess cannabis revenue. This isn't general fund money. This isn't

3068
04:10:36,400 --> 04:10:41,520
money that we're allocating from the 4 million. This is excess cannabis revenues. So I don't feel

3069
04:10:41,520 --> 04:10:47,940
like it's even money necessarily that the taxpayers were planning on spending. This is excess revenue

3070
04:10:47,940 --> 04:10:52,220
that we're going to be allocating for this. And for the excess cannabis funds, we get to be

3071
04:10:52,220 --> 04:10:56,820
a dollar community. Hey, what are you getting for the marijuana dispensaries in your city? Well,

3072
04:10:56,820 --> 04:11:00,700
cannabis-decor reinforcements, youth cannabis prevention scholarship programs, increase lighting,

3073
04:11:01,120 --> 04:11:05,540
sheriff's deputies, park, rangers, blight reduction, park rest your maintenance.

3074
04:11:06,460 --> 04:11:13,740
I think that's a good bang for your buck. I'm okay with the sheriff's deputy if we can have two

3075
04:11:13,740 --> 04:11:19,800
park rangers as well. And the reason being is I think that that is a lot in addition to lighting.

3076
04:11:19,880 --> 04:11:24,500
Nobody's taking away lighting, nobody's taking away scholarships. We're just dividing the money

3077
04:11:24,500 --> 04:11:27,680
equally, and I think this is kind of a win-win for everybody on all sides.

3078
04:11:28,980 --> 04:11:33,680
So I'm OK with the Sheriff's Deputy, and I look forward to talking about the next item,

3079
04:11:34,060 --> 04:11:35,680
and hoping we can make our granders.

3080
04:11:35,780 --> 04:11:37,320
We're going to fund your park granders.

3081
04:11:38,060 --> 04:11:38,360
Oh, you're...

3082
04:11:38,360 --> 04:11:38,940
Next item, hopefully.

3083
04:11:38,940 --> 04:11:39,520
God, thank you.

3084
04:11:39,560 --> 04:11:40,220
That's been a Franklin.

3085
04:11:40,840 --> 04:11:50,400
Mr. Johnson, the blight reduction team was envisioned as two full-time code enforcement officers

3086
04:11:51,240 --> 04:11:54,000
would be outfitted with F-150 trucks.

3087
04:11:55,920 --> 04:12:00,300
The salary seems like it would be, it seems like it would be very,

3088
04:12:00,300 --> 04:12:04,540
very easy and simple for us to reprioritize,

3089
04:12:05,240 --> 04:12:08,520
instead of having them roaming the entire city,

3090
04:12:09,000 --> 04:12:11,280
making their way from park to park to patrol,

3091
04:12:12,200 --> 04:12:15,140
and to label them as park rangers and give them the

3092
04:12:15,140 --> 04:12:18,860
stated core mission of policing our parks,

3093
04:12:18,860 --> 04:12:23,260
or providing the code enforcement function in our parks.

3094
04:12:23,860 --> 04:12:28,440
Do you see any reason why I'm not making sense right now?

3095
04:12:29,820 --> 04:12:34,040
The blight reduction team was envisioned to be kind of a quasi-public work

3096
04:12:34,040 --> 04:12:37,000
slash code enforcement and take the pressure off of both departments

3097
04:12:37,000 --> 04:12:41,140
but serve the entire community if the city council is present.

3098
04:12:41,140 --> 04:12:48,840
And the reason why that was recommended, I know you talked about park

3099
04:12:48,840 --> 04:12:53,820
city-wide for issues then frankly we do in the parks. And I know you guys hear from individuals

3100
04:12:54,400 --> 04:12:59,640
but we get a lot more community calls but if the council's preferences to go with more of

3101
04:12:59,640 --> 04:13:05,420
a park-based system then we can switch to that. That's not hard. I do want to say one thing though

3102
04:13:05,420 --> 04:13:12,880
and that is we have not had a maybe it semantics maybe it's not. We have not had a formal position

3103
04:13:12,880 --> 04:13:19,800
of park ranger in the city for probably don't 25 or more years and typically cities that

3104
04:13:19,800 --> 04:13:26,980
have park rangers, the park ranger has some higher level than let's say a code officer,

3105
04:13:27,340 --> 04:13:32,580
maybe with a weapon of some sort whether that's a firearm in some cities or a taser, things

3106
04:13:32,580 --> 04:13:38,140
like that, my recommendation to all of you is not to have somebody that's kind of, we

3107
04:13:38,140 --> 04:13:42,780
have park directors that patrol the parks on a daily basis, I would prefer if you want

3108
04:13:42,780 --> 04:13:48,940
go down this route to protecting the parks, having safety in the parks, to hire more park directors.

3109
04:13:49,620 --> 04:13:54,760
We can change their appearance in terms of uniforms and that type of things so there's

3110
04:13:54,760 --> 04:13:59,120
a presence, but currently there are park directors, we've had cut enforcement officers,

3111
04:13:59,280 --> 04:14:04,080
we've got the sheriff's departments, and frankly park rangers would fit somewhere in the middle

3112
04:14:04,080 --> 04:14:09,120
and we're not an agency, nobody in our agency other than code enforcement carries weapons,

3113
04:14:09,120 --> 04:14:14,720
And so that would be a concern to have a couple of people out there that would be patrolling

3114
04:14:14,720 --> 04:14:16,780
the parks at night in different hours.

3115
04:14:17,360 --> 04:14:20,480
If they have problems, I would prefer they call the sheriff's department if there's a

3116
04:14:20,480 --> 04:14:21,280
real need for that.

3117
04:14:21,320 --> 04:14:23,400
But I think park directors serve the purpose anyhow.

3118
04:14:24,160 --> 04:14:27,080
But yeah, you could pivot if that's the desire of the city council.

3119
04:14:27,700 --> 04:14:32,400
I think our park directors already are calling the sheriff's department if they have an issue.

3120
04:14:32,540 --> 04:14:32,900
Absolutely.

3121
04:14:33,040 --> 04:14:38,100
And very clearly any employee who is not a law enforcement officer and is not armed with

3122
04:14:38,100 --> 04:14:45,160
of the force should not during the late hours try to confront somebody, but our code enforcement

3123
04:14:45,160 --> 04:14:49,860
officers go out every day and they enforce the municipal code and they're unarmed.

3124
04:14:50,480 --> 04:14:53,020
And if they encounter a problem, they call the sheriff's department.

3125
04:14:54,340 --> 04:14:59,960
By adding this extra deputy, we have extra resources for these park rangers to call a death.

3126
04:15:01,460 --> 04:15:27,280
This is important to the deputy mayor. And, you know, I had a problem as you well know, on Sunday morning in the park. And, you know, having a presence in the parks, I, I, I never want our parks to be taken over by a criminal element. We know that we had a major problem with the, the VISTA homeboys gang at bubblegum some park.

3127
04:15:27,280 --> 04:15:36,780
You know, we heard from the community activists who came to tell us about the Park in

3128
04:15:36,780 --> 04:15:40,740
and Councilwoman Contrars' district, the name of the park, escapes me.

3129
04:15:41,060 --> 04:15:41,460
Mr. Rand.

3130
04:15:41,500 --> 04:15:42,320
Mr. Rand Park.

3131
04:15:43,440 --> 04:15:44,040
With the vegetation.

3132
04:15:44,080 --> 04:15:45,300
With the marijuana smoking.

3133
04:15:45,460 --> 04:15:45,860
Yes.

3134
04:15:45,940 --> 04:15:47,400
But he called it a vegetation issue.

3135
04:15:47,800 --> 04:15:48,000
No.

3136
04:15:48,000 --> 04:15:49,040
I mean behind the vegetation.

3137
04:15:49,420 --> 04:15:50,020
Oh, okay.

3138
04:15:51,900 --> 04:15:58,580
But, you know what, having a, having an authoritative presence in the parks could absolutely

3139
04:15:58,580 --> 04:16:06,960
make that park safer for Councilwoman, Contreras' parks could make all of our parks

3140
04:16:06,960 --> 04:16:14,740
in the entire city safer and it sounds like maybe the time has come and I don't think

3141
04:16:14,740 --> 04:16:23,660
We're going to have to work that hard to re-invision this, so Madam Mayor, would you allow

3142
04:16:23,660 --> 04:16:32,480
an indulge me to change my motion to one that authorizes the Sheriff's Deputy as well

3143
04:16:32,480 --> 04:16:42,080
as for $277,000, the hiring of two park rangers program to be devised by the City Manager.

3144
04:16:43,740 --> 04:16:52,640
Sure. Thank you. And I just wanted to say something else. Politics is sometimes deal-making,

3145
04:16:53,280 --> 04:16:57,760
and I do resent the implication that there's something wrong with acknowledging

3146
04:16:57,760 --> 04:17:05,100
another council member's priorities, and seeing that their priorities are met in order

3147
04:17:05,100 --> 04:17:10,120
that what you believe are priorities for your constituents are met. That is politics, everything

3148
04:17:10,120 --> 04:17:16,260
we do up here is political and I'm not afraid to admit it and I'm not afraid to do something

3149
04:17:18,900 --> 04:17:24,640
that helps you accomplishing in that's important to your constituents if it can help me accomplish

3150
04:17:24,640 --> 04:17:28,820
an end that's important to mine. That's working together, that's compromise and that's what

3151
04:17:28,820 --> 04:17:33,160
our voters expect us to do every time we get up here. Thank you very much.

3152
04:17:34,680 --> 04:17:41,570
You can call it whatever you want, but it doesn't look good to the public, and in any case,

3153
04:17:42,850 --> 04:17:49,590
you know, I just want clarification on the costs of park rangers because I'm seeing

3154
04:17:49,590 --> 04:17:57,990
the park rangers costing 340,000 and the blight reduction team being 277,000.

3155
04:17:58,430 --> 04:18:00,810
So is there, do we need to allocate more funds?

3156
04:18:00,810 --> 04:18:05,670
because we only have one point, you know, 11, essentially.

3157
04:18:06,850 --> 04:18:08,510
Yeah, if there was a point one.

3158
04:18:08,730 --> 04:18:11,250
I believe, you know, we could drill down on it,

3159
04:18:11,290 --> 04:18:13,630
but if we were instructed to come back with park rangers,

3160
04:18:14,590 --> 04:18:17,830
I believe it would be higher cost than the 277

3161
04:18:17,830 --> 04:18:22,970
listed there, based on what I think, again,

3162
04:18:23,090 --> 04:18:27,290
I'm interpreting the level of service and the classification

3163
04:18:27,290 --> 04:18:29,210
of the position that would be necessary.

3164
04:18:29,210 --> 04:18:32,290
It would be a bit higher than G777.

3165
04:18:32,290 --> 04:18:35,230
I'm not sure how much higher, but it definitely probably

3166
04:18:35,230 --> 04:18:39,270
would be overall $20 to $30,000 more, I would guess.

3167
04:18:39,990 --> 04:18:42,750
Yeah, so it just continues to be a concern.

3168
04:18:42,970 --> 04:18:47,650
The fact that we're spending, we allocated $14 million

3169
04:18:47,650 --> 04:18:50,470
for infrastructure that we weren't saving for,

3170
04:18:51,190 --> 04:18:54,470
and we're going over the allotment that we have

3171
04:18:54,850 --> 04:18:56,990
to spend right now.

3172
04:18:56,990 --> 04:19:08,480
I'm, I just, it's, it's not a good luck for the public, and I'm not in favor of not having a balanced budget.

3173
04:19:09,640 --> 04:19:12,320
So, maybe you all are, but I'm not.

3174
04:19:14,860 --> 04:19:15,520
Deputy Mayor Green.

3175
04:19:16,620 --> 04:19:19,020
Also, thank you so much. Thank you for the spirited conversation.

3176
04:19:19,340 --> 04:19:21,400
Council, I greatly appreciate it.

3177
04:19:21,920 --> 04:19:24,180
As far as the actual range or name,

3178
04:19:24,180 --> 04:19:30,140
park enforcers. I know when we were speaking additionally about a deputy we were able to fit two park

3179
04:19:30,140 --> 04:19:37,500
ranges in the cost of one. Sheriff deputy pretty quick and maybe it wasn't a ranger whatever. So as long as we have

3180
04:19:37,500 --> 04:19:42,780
this is what I want. I want a city truck that says park enforcement and I want two people who are

3181
04:19:42,780 --> 04:19:48,680
charged with only driving by our parks. They have to be park enforcers or something because that's

3182
04:19:48,680 --> 04:19:53,120
what people want to see as somebody that says park enforcement. I mean it's not a ranger that's cool

3183
04:19:53,120 --> 04:19:56,220
fit it within this budget because that's what we want. I do want a valid

3184
04:19:56,220 --> 04:19:59,960
budget and they don't have to carry a gun. They can call the cops too, but it's...

3185
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:08,560
About community relationships and making it be safer and we can make that happen within the constraints of our budget, and we can make everybody happy.

3186
04:20:09,160 --> 04:20:09,740
So, yeah, I'm okay.

3187
04:20:10,100 --> 04:20:15,200
If it's not technically a ranger, there's classification issues within local government that I think might confuse that.

3188
04:20:15,200 --> 04:20:24,640
And I heard what you said. And I should say that this cost here is a cost for the first year, because we're going to have to buy vehicles in that type of thing.

3189
04:20:24,640 --> 04:20:32,640
If it goes a second year, the cost will go down because we will not be providing vehicles and supplies and those type of things.

3190
04:20:34,160 --> 04:20:35,200
Thank you.

3191
04:20:36,920 --> 04:20:39,420
Councillor Frank, can we call for the question, maybe soon?

3192
04:20:39,880 --> 04:20:40,180
Absolutely.

3193
04:20:40,400 --> 04:20:46,620
I just wanted to note my commitment to work with you Deputy Mayor Green and the staff and all the

3194
04:20:46,620 --> 04:20:49,320
Council here to find the necessary gap in funding.

3195
04:20:49,880 --> 04:20:59,160
If we need to reallocate funds to fully fund this Park Ranger program, it wasn't that I wasn't convinced of the value of it at the time.

3196
04:20:59,640 --> 04:21:02,320
It was that I had another priority at the time.

3197
04:21:04,220 --> 04:21:13,200
Pointly, this last Sunday morning, I had an experience in the parks where something was on social media and I went to check it out and it needed law enforcement response.

3198
04:21:13,800 --> 04:21:18,560
If the Park Rangers had been patrolling that park, probably that situation would have never gotten to that point.

3199
04:21:18,560 --> 04:21:25,620
So, I'm convinced that this is the right thing to do, and you have my commitment to find the funding to fully fund it.

3200
04:21:25,660 --> 04:21:31,100
And I think the city manager is clever enough to find $30,000 without causing us to go bankrupt.

3201
04:21:32,140 --> 04:21:36,100
And in fact, we have a $30,000 access to do we not.

3202
04:21:36,480 --> 04:21:42,620
In our year-end fund balance, we can allocate necessary to have a perfectly balanced budget is required by state law and constitution.

3203
04:21:43,400 --> 04:21:47,540
I think if we call it park enforcement, we will be within the budget.

3204
04:21:47,540 --> 04:21:48,360
Fantastic.

3205
04:21:48,680 --> 04:21:49,880
Move to call the question.

3206
04:21:51,840 --> 04:21:55,660
And then it's called some of them will end us, so when we're less, when less things say.

3207
04:21:55,920 --> 04:21:57,940
Thank you.

3208
04:21:57,960 --> 04:22:03,920
Firstly, I want to understand because there is a change in the motion exactly what we're

3209
04:22:03,920 --> 04:22:05,820
going forward to vote on.

3210
04:22:06,520 --> 04:22:14,360
But I'm not quite understanding the rationale of now we're adding additional priorities

3211
04:22:14,360 --> 04:22:26,400
to this list that would go over the total provided funding and we're providing

3212
04:22:26,400 --> 04:22:35,420
direction for us as a city to find funding to make this priority list whole when

3213
04:22:35,420 --> 04:22:39,800
my understanding is that with some of these priorities such as a share

3214
04:22:39,800 --> 04:22:46,780
deputy, we already can be finding that funding elsewhere and do not need to be using this

3215
04:22:46,780 --> 04:22:48,840
excess cannabis revenue.

3216
04:22:49,920 --> 04:22:58,040
So that I just want to state that comments for the public that we are theorizing to go

3217
04:22:58,040 --> 04:23:06,600
over the allotted amount when I think if we were to be doing this in a smart way, we would

3218
04:23:06,600 --> 04:23:20,780
have tabled the opportunity to hire a sheriff's deputy at this time to prioritize some of the special projects that we are hoping to accomplish with these funds and then ultimately reassess and move forward.

3219
04:23:21,160 --> 04:23:29,960
But those are my final comments and I would just like a clarification on what our vote is going to be on.

3220
04:23:31,940 --> 04:23:39,520
Here does does the city attorney understand clearly in the city clerk understand clearly what the motion is?

3221
04:23:40,840 --> 04:23:52,280
I can restate just briefly. It is that we are authorizing $275,000 for one share of stability and $277,000 for the hiring of two park rangers

3222
04:23:53,460 --> 04:23:54,100
and

3223
04:23:54,960 --> 04:23:59,540
There is sort of an assumed that this is in a loo of the next item

3224
04:24:00,100 --> 04:24:05,060
And although I think, I mean, and I'm agreeing that it's in blue, but I'm not sure that

3225
04:24:05,060 --> 04:24:06,560
that needs to be part of the motion.

3226
04:24:10,750 --> 04:24:14,030
Is it in blue and blue the next item or in addition to the next item?

3227
04:24:14,210 --> 04:24:14,710
It's in blue.

3228
04:24:14,950 --> 04:24:17,390
So we're reallocating the 277,000,000 on that.

3229
04:24:17,390 --> 04:24:19,030
Is that going to have a black reduction team?

3230
04:24:20,490 --> 04:24:20,730
Okay.

3231
04:24:21,890 --> 04:24:25,430
And it's just to clarify, is your motion park rangeers or park enforcers?

3232
04:24:27,130 --> 04:24:32,790
I think you can make it work with park rangeers, but if the deputy mayor would agree to

3233
04:24:32,790 --> 04:24:35,270
I would leave it up to the authority of the city manager.

3234
04:24:35,270 --> 04:24:37,350
I would leave it up to the authority of the city manager,

3235
04:24:37,490 --> 04:24:41,670
as long as the direction is being handled in the budget is balanced.

3236
04:24:45,530 --> 04:24:50,390
Okay, we got it all, I would say one last thing I can think of because I haven't seen anything.

3237
04:24:50,850 --> 04:24:53,690
I would just say the public safety is always been, I don't know,

3238
04:24:53,910 --> 04:24:56,370
one priority in VISTA, fire and sheriff.

3239
04:24:56,750 --> 04:24:59,950
And so I think for the 11 cannabis dispensaries in VISTA,

3240
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:22,160
I think it's put more of strain on our deputies a little bit. It's just the drivers, just the use of it, and it's, you know, in itself. And the new exodus is going to be open 24 hours a day with 51-50s. I think that that's more of a strain. So I think that we, I think it's, I support the deputies. So anyway, that's, so with that we will vote, capture votes,

3241
04:25:30,270 --> 04:25:32,270
motion passes three to two.

3242
04:25:32,870 --> 04:25:43,550
So, that takes us to, if you have oral communications, our oral communications, or we do have one more thing?

3243
04:25:43,750 --> 04:25:45,070
No, we did in lieu.

3244
04:25:48,270 --> 04:25:53,230
I believe the Council member will let us want to talk about the recovery program as well?

3245
04:25:53,470 --> 04:25:54,490
Substance and abuse recovery.

3246
04:25:56,920 --> 04:26:00,740
I'm okay on just passing up the opportunity to speak.

3247
04:26:04,830 --> 04:26:08,090
Do you have a motion to approve it?

3248
04:26:08,090 --> 04:26:12,430
here or has that already been improved city attorney so I'm going to

3249
04:26:12,430 --> 04:26:12,810
be improved.

3250
04:26:14,850 --> 04:26:16,090
So we're all set to move on.

3251
04:26:16,810 --> 04:26:17,390
Okay, got it.

3252
04:26:17,450 --> 04:26:18,990
So we're going to do our oral communications.

3253
04:26:19,230 --> 04:26:21,110
We have a couple speakers here at Calorie.

3254
04:26:21,690 --> 04:26:25,930
Eric is stuck it out to the Diorin and Rachel too.

3255
04:26:25,990 --> 04:26:26,490
You're next.

3256
04:26:27,730 --> 04:26:30,070
Good evening Mayor and Council members.

3257
04:26:30,250 --> 04:26:34,190
I was going to talk about something else but as we were sitting here this evening

3258
04:26:34,190 --> 04:26:43,970
I did decide to make sure you are all aware that next Tuesday, August 31st is overdose awareness day.

3259
04:26:45,350 --> 04:26:49,430
And NCPC's been working on some different awareness efforts.

3260
04:26:50,250 --> 04:26:55,190
I'm sure you're very well aware about the increasing fentanyl-related deaths.

3261
04:26:56,050 --> 04:27:02,050
I wanted to share some data with you from 2020 here in our tricity region.

3262
04:27:02,050 --> 04:27:07,530
And we've had 73 overdosed related deaths in 2020.

3263
04:27:09,290 --> 04:27:11,950
See, 44% of those were related to fentanyl.

3264
04:27:12,670 --> 04:27:16,030
But if you look at those that impacted people under 40,

3265
04:27:16,610 --> 04:27:19,370
69% were related to fentanyl.

3266
04:27:20,130 --> 04:27:24,510
67% of our overdosed deaths impacted people under the age of 50,

3267
04:27:25,350 --> 04:27:35,150
34 were under 40 and of those 79% were male and 76% were white. The age range with the highest

3268
04:27:35,150 --> 04:27:42,710
related fentanyl overdoses were at those ages 30 to 39. And those are all just a bunch of

3269
04:27:42,710 --> 04:27:49,010
numbers. You probably, I'm sure well aware of the terrible tragic story in the news. I don't

3270
04:27:49,590 --> 04:27:56,210
So I won't speak for her and her family situation, but it was a tragic thing that happened here in Bista.

3271
04:27:58,290 --> 04:28:02,430
So, heavy news, and it does relate to cannabis too.

3272
04:28:02,530 --> 04:28:09,350
You may recall the post I was here at a recent meeting, sharing the graph of fentanyl related overdose deaths,

3273
04:28:09,610 --> 04:28:14,270
with a quote from Dr. Renee Lev, who is an emergency room physician here at Scripps.

3274
04:28:14,270 --> 04:28:23,470
She says in her emergency room, she has not encountered a single overdose patient that did not start their drug use history with marijuana.

3275
04:28:25,190 --> 04:28:34,370
She's also a leading founding member of a new website called Isaac, the International Academy on the Science and Impacts of Cannabis.

3276
04:28:34,370 --> 04:28:40,450
they have a library of all the research, I encourage you to Google them so that we can

3277
04:28:40,450 --> 04:28:45,770
blend these efforts and address the impacts and tragedies that often occur with substance

3278
04:28:45,770 --> 04:28:46,290
use.

3279
04:28:46,750 --> 04:28:52,410
VISTA Community Clinic is changing their policies so we will have an aloxone available to

3280
04:28:52,410 --> 04:28:55,590
all clinic patients and their family members.

3281
04:28:55,790 --> 04:29:01,370
So if they have family that have problems with illicit substance use, we know it's in all illicit

3282
04:29:01,370 --> 04:29:08,330
strategies, what we're working to expand availability of not so in our communities up here

3283
04:29:08,330 --> 04:29:15,230
in North County and with that I thank you for a long evening and a spirited discussion.

3284
04:29:15,850 --> 04:29:16,290
Thank you.

3285
04:29:16,430 --> 04:29:17,290
Thank you.

3286
04:29:17,470 --> 04:29:18,350
Rachel Bell.

3287
04:29:22,630 --> 04:29:23,470
Good evening.

3288
04:29:23,630 --> 04:29:25,030
Rachel Bell with the VISTA Chamber.

3289
04:29:26,250 --> 04:29:30,290
This is my first back in person meeting that I've attended and it's a good one.

3290
04:29:30,290 --> 04:29:33,090
So thank you so much for all of your discussion tonight.

3291
04:29:33,270 --> 04:29:37,450
It's exciting to be here, stick it out to the end and to hear all the discussions.

3292
04:29:37,670 --> 04:29:38,450
So thank you for that.

3293
04:29:38,510 --> 04:29:43,210
I did want to just mention two things and we heard tonight during the

3294
04:29:43,210 --> 04:29:48,650
our discussion in another comments that there are a number of people looking for jobs

3295
04:29:48,650 --> 04:29:50,970
and there are also businesses that are hiring.

3296
04:29:51,230 --> 04:29:54,830
I wanted to share that the VISTA Chamber has a jobs board on our website.

3297
04:29:54,830 --> 04:29:59,950
this to chamber.org slash jobs if this to business is higher.

3298
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:06,300
They can utilize that tool and if someone is looking for employment, they can utilize that tool as well.

3299
04:30:06,680 --> 04:30:13,460
Also, when I mentioned that the VISTA Chamber publishes a quarterly publication, the VISTA magazine, it's available also on our website,

3300
04:30:13,720 --> 04:30:26,280
VISTAChamber.org right on the homepage. The fall addition is out. I know tonight we talked about telling VISTA story and all of the things that the city can do to publish articles and to highlight those amazing stories.

3301
04:30:26,280 --> 04:30:38,340
And I just wanted to mention that in addition, the chamber also helps to tell stories, maybe from a little different perspective, and we encourage everyone to check that out online, we have printed copies available to around town.

3302
04:30:38,700 --> 04:30:42,940
When I thank you so much for all of the work that you do and for listening to the public.

3303
04:30:43,660 --> 04:30:46,240
And I hope you have a great evening, and it's also talk of Tuesday.

3304
04:30:47,380 --> 04:30:49,020
Is this still Tuesday?

3305
04:30:52,380 --> 04:30:56,240
Okay, that's all of our speakers, so we'll go to remarks.

3306
04:30:56,280 --> 04:31:01,220
I have a few things for the council here in recognition of National Preparedness Month.

3307
04:31:01,660 --> 04:31:06,220
Check our city website for information on how to prepare for a wildlife, power-ordered

3308
04:31:06,220 --> 04:31:11,720
outages, earthquakes and other disasters at cityivist.com slash emergency prep.

3309
04:31:12,640 --> 04:31:16,780
And next thing is with students returning to the classroom, remember to slow down around

3310
04:31:16,780 --> 04:31:22,320
school zones, stay alert, and let's work together to keep VISTA students safe throughout the school year.

3311
04:31:22,840 --> 04:31:28,980
And lastly, I recreations false sports activities are underway and you can register for adult and children's programs now at

3312
04:31:30,320 --> 04:31:33,900
vistarecreation.org. So go down the line and I'll start with a deputy mayor.

3313
04:31:36,080 --> 04:31:40,240
Thank you so much, Madam Mayor. I want to thank my council members for all the research they do, all the

3314
04:31:40,240 --> 04:31:44,160
comments they make in their heartfelt passion for our city. I know that we don't agree on everything,

3315
04:31:44,160 --> 04:31:48,220
but one thing we read on is we love Vista and we love our constituents and we will fight

3316
04:31:48,220 --> 04:31:51,880
tooth and nail for them. I want to thank Rachel Belld for showing up and for everything that

3317
04:31:51,880 --> 04:31:56,180
you're doing for our community working with the school district is huge. On that same note,

3318
04:31:56,480 --> 04:32:01,860
council member, Karina Contraryr is huge props as a parent of four kids in Vist Unified School

3319
04:32:01,860 --> 04:32:06,720
District with no buses and driving around town all over the place to drop my kids off.

3320
04:32:06,820 --> 04:32:10,140
Council member Contraryr is in North County Transit District which I'll let her tell you about it

3321
04:32:10,140 --> 04:32:14,880
we're able to come to an agreement to get our kids bused home from school and that is a humongous

3322
04:32:14,880 --> 04:32:19,460
deal and I know the principal over there is just ecstatic and that is huge so thank you so much

3323
04:32:19,460 --> 04:32:24,820
council would interest. Another thing is school zones we're back to school I am taking my kid to school

3324
04:32:24,820 --> 04:32:29,900
leave early so that you're not rude in line plan on taking like an hour round trip to drop your kid off

3325
04:32:30,420 --> 04:32:34,800
because if you don't you're rude and it's dangerous and kids can get hurt and lastly

3326
04:32:34,800 --> 04:32:39,520
Filly Burtos and Avery Burtos and Albert tacos are all open 24 hours and have amazing deals

3327
04:32:39,520 --> 04:32:47,020
You can actually get a beef taco for 99 cents at Filly Burtos on the corner of Williamston and Vista way check him out have a great night Vista

3328
04:32:47,020 --> 04:32:50,740
Okay, I'll remember Franklin

3329
04:32:50,740 --> 04:32:55,840
I want a second what the deputy mayor said about the fact that we don't always agree

3330
04:32:57,260 --> 04:33:04,160
And sometimes we don't always agree about the way to do things even when we disagree about how we're what we're getting done

3331
04:33:04,820 --> 04:33:08,860
However, I do know that all of us care about our community,

3332
04:33:09,460 --> 04:33:11,220
and we're all trying to do what we think is right,

3333
04:33:11,500 --> 04:33:13,380
even though we may not agree on what that is.

3334
04:33:13,820 --> 04:33:16,140
So I appreciate the spirit of discussion.

3335
04:33:16,780 --> 04:33:19,760
I appreciate all of you working with me.

3336
04:33:20,380 --> 04:33:21,980
I'm not always the friendlyest guy,

3337
04:33:22,500 --> 04:33:24,660
especially when I get passionate about what I think's right.

3338
04:33:25,540 --> 04:33:27,100
I appreciate you putting up with me,

3339
04:33:27,100 --> 04:33:29,300
and I appreciate being able to work with you guys.

3340
04:33:30,160 --> 04:33:31,700
Thank you, Councilmember Contreras.

3341
04:33:33,260 --> 04:33:48,000
Yeah, so I want to say that by being nonpartisan and not being hyper-political, in less than a year of being on North County Transit District, which I'm super happy and thankful that this council has approved.

3342
04:33:48,680 --> 04:34:03,240
I was able to actually get some work done in the community and that's picking up kids off Pulse Away and all over the place who otherwise would have to walk an excessive two miles every day on streets that don't have sidewalks.

3343
04:34:03,240 --> 04:34:05,920
And so now we're able to get them on the bus.

3344
04:34:06,200 --> 04:34:07,760
It's $23 a month.

3345
04:34:08,160 --> 04:34:10,140
We have a special route for them.

3346
04:34:10,640 --> 04:34:14,060
$3 a day, and I could not have done it

3347
04:34:14,060 --> 04:34:17,820
without Principal DeSanto at Rancho Minerva Middle School.

3348
04:34:17,960 --> 04:34:19,720
This is something that she's been asking for.

3349
04:34:19,820 --> 04:34:21,900
This is something that her and I talked about before.

3350
04:34:22,020 --> 04:34:23,620
I was on North County Transit District.

3351
04:34:24,780 --> 04:34:28,040
And we actually happened to run into each other

3352
04:34:28,040 --> 04:34:32,040
at a film hub for one of the events of the chamber

3353
04:34:32,040 --> 04:34:36,360
was putting on and we're like hey you know what we haven't done in this done let's get it done

3354
04:34:36,360 --> 04:34:44,280
and just like that we made it happen I'm really thankful to our executive director, Matthew Tucker

3355
04:34:44,280 --> 04:34:54,140
at North County Transit District we literally got this done in just a few months so I'm really

3356
04:34:54,140 --> 04:34:59,900
I really happy about that. I also just, you know, on the same line of just working.

3357
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:20,540
For the community, and not trying to be hyperpartisan, you know, I single-handedly was able to get the city of Vista, $5 million for fire station three, and $3.5 million for solar panels here at the Civic Center.

3358
04:35:20,540 --> 04:35:24,660
And $600,000 for a well at Bringle Tears Park.

3359
04:35:25,040 --> 04:35:29,780
So that was also more than a, it's almost like two years in the making.

3360
04:35:31,440 --> 04:35:38,000
And I always wanted to remind people, Wednesday is trash pick up day.

3361
04:35:39,040 --> 04:35:45,080
So we, if you saw the presentation earlier, we had, get it us.

3362
04:35:45,080 --> 04:35:52,460
here, volunteers that meet up every Wednesday at Los Duran Park 9 a.m. we start walking by 9

3363
04:35:52,460 --> 04:35:59,860
15 and we walk pick-up trash and come back to Los Duran Park with the aim of getting their

3364
04:35:59,860 --> 04:36:08,220
around 11 a.m. and then our lovely co-workers, my lovely co-workers and public works actually

3365
04:36:08,220 --> 04:36:14,660
finishes the job and they pick up the trash that we pick up. so I'm really thankful for serving

3366
04:36:14,660 --> 04:36:21,240
the community of Vista and focusing in a non-partisan way on things that have to get done.

3367
04:36:21,660 --> 04:36:28,480
Council Member Melendez. Thank you everyone who's endured the entire meeting tonight.

3368
04:36:28,680 --> 04:36:35,540
I know that it was a long one. I just want to say thank you to City staff for

3369
04:36:37,320 --> 04:36:43,220
collaborating with this body and trying to find solutions for the community.

3370
04:36:43,220 --> 04:36:55,260
I am here to serve the community and sometimes that means that I have to fight for my values

3371
04:36:55,260 --> 04:37:03,800
and the values that are reflected in the community even if they don't always sit well in conversation.

3372
04:37:04,480 --> 04:37:06,660
So we have to have very difficult conversations.

3373
04:37:06,660 --> 04:37:12,740
We have to say what we believe is true. I know that I have to say what I believe is true

3374
04:37:13,300 --> 04:37:21,860
and I have a lot of respect for myself and a lot of appreciation of the community for putting me in this position.

3375
04:37:22,460 --> 04:37:27,860
I really see it as a public servant role. This is not a beauty pageant for me.

3376
04:37:28,460 --> 04:37:32,520
I am here to serve the community and talk about really hard issues.

3377
04:37:32,520 --> 04:37:39,220
And in continuing that, I have a date for my first virtual town hall.

3378
04:37:39,220 --> 04:37:40,960
It's a little bit more than a month though.

3379
04:37:41,080 --> 04:37:43,780
It's going to be an October 14th in the evening.

3380
04:37:44,260 --> 04:37:50,600
So if anyone watching or listening or here today is interested in participating in a virtual town hall,

3381
04:37:50,800 --> 04:37:53,620
specifically geared toward infrastructure and safety,

3382
04:37:54,180 --> 04:37:56,020
I would love to have your contributions.

3383
04:37:56,480 --> 04:38:02,500
The more public input, the better I know that some of these in-person meetings aren't always

3384
04:38:02,500 --> 04:38:07,560
as accessible. I know when we were virtual, we were getting a lot of comments on a lot of

3385
04:38:07,560 --> 04:38:12,680
interactions. So since we don't have a hybrid model at this point, hopefully can in the future,

3386
04:38:13,280 --> 04:38:18,800
I would like to try to fill those gaps of public information from the community with what I'm

3387
04:38:18,800 --> 04:38:23,780
able to provide in terms of making myself available to the community to talk about important issues.

3388
04:38:24,500 --> 04:38:30,500
If there is any needs that you have, feel free to reach out to me. You can find on my contact

3389
04:38:30,500 --> 04:38:39,840
information on the city website and I just appreciate so much the community sharing their

3390
04:38:39,840 --> 04:38:48,720
opinions so that I can be up here and advocate for you and I am ready to take a rest

3391
04:38:48,720 --> 04:38:53,020
after a long meeting and I hope everybody has a wonderful blessed night.

3392
04:38:54,460 --> 04:38:55,020
City Manager.

3393
04:38:55,020 --> 04:39:01,580
Thank you Mayor, a couple items I mentioned earlier today that the Senior Center is going to increase their social hours.

3394
04:39:01,920 --> 04:39:13,480
So starting tomorrow, Wednesday, Senior Center will be open from 830 to 1030 on Wednesdays, and we anticipate being fully staffed and open to the public in September.

3395
04:39:14,800 --> 04:39:21,700
As far as our shelter bed availability, we currently have eight beds available between our two shelters at La Pazata and Interfaith.

3396
04:39:21,700 --> 04:39:34,220
And the last item, I want to say happy birthday to our fire chief, Ned Vanderpool, who's birthday was yesterday, I think he was a milestone birthday, I think it was 39, but he's behind the doors back there, so happy birthday to the chief.

3397
04:39:35,780 --> 04:39:38,600
Okay, I want us to be a attorney, Darrell Fiber.

3398
04:39:39,200 --> 04:39:42,700
Thank you, Mayor. Nothing, I really wouldn't dare at this hour.

3399
04:39:43,820 --> 04:39:47,540
City clerk, Kathy, do you have anything? Nothing, thank you.

3400
04:39:47,720 --> 04:39:49,460
Okay, with that, we are adjourned.