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Welcome to the thursday, MAY

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21st walnut creek

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transportation commission

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meeting.

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>> will the secretary please

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take a roll call?

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Student commissioner kersh

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absent commissioner ash absent

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commissioner guerrero present

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commissioner mcmahon present

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vice chair patch present chair

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carolyn present.

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>> all right.

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Moving on to public

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So this portion is for anyone

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in the public who wishes to

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address the transportation

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commission on matters within

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our jurisdiction that are not

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transportation commission for

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an item not on the agenda, this

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is your opportunity.

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>> we have no members of the

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>> all righty.

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>> thank you.

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Then we will close this portion

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of public comment before moving

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on to the consent calendar.

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>> I believe all we have is

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approval of the minutes of

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MARCH 19th, 2026 our prior

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meeting so I'll just poll the

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commissioners if they have any

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edits, upgrades or changes as

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commissioner guerrero no

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changes.

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>> oh right.

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And forgive me I'm still got

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new commissioners here.

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>> commissioner mcmahon navin

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vice chair patch I'm good and

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to the chair has no comments so

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motion I motion to approve the

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minutes I second all right

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motion made seconded let's do a

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roll call vote please.

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chair patch yes chair crawling

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I all right consent items are

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closed moving on to item for

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consideration item so item a

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electric vehicle charger

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program analysis and

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recommendations the staff have

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a presentation for us.

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Good evening commissioners.

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>> all right, so I'm candice

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regan mumby.

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I'm the city sustainability

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manager and I've been working

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on this project with gina achor

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who's one of our public works

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managers.

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She'll be here to help answer

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questions and so we're going to

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give an update on some analysis

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that we have been doing about

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the city's ev public ev

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charging program.

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>> so tonight we'll cover a bit

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of background on the chargers

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that we have and how they

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relate to the city's

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sustainability goals.

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the current state of the

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chargers and some of the

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performance gaps that we'd like

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to address and some of the

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opportunities that we came

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across in the analysis and then

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next steps.

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>> so to get started with the

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sustainability goals.

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sustainability action plan in

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2023 which is how we're really

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organizing all the city's

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efforts across different topics

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to reach state sustainability

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goals and also to reach the

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council's priority of

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environmental sustainability

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largest area when we look at

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our greenhouse gas inventories

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transportation and that's you

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really do as you all are very

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familiar with to our suburban

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development you know we're very

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dependent on passenger vehicles

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gas powered internal combustion

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engine vehicles.

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encouraging folks to transition

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ideally to drive less and then

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if you are going to drive to

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drive evs as one of the biggest

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ways that we can hopefully

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bring down greenhouse gas

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emissions from the community

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and our impact on the climate.

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some goals in he plan that

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really relate to ev hargers

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and other ev adoption.

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have the city have on our

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property 70 charging port ports

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by 2030 and we'll get into a

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bit more detail on what we have

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now but we are on track with

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our fleet chargers.

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now so we're we do think we're

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well on track to meet that goal

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ten years ago and so they that

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program itself has its own set

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of goals to make sure that it's

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being successful.

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that the infrastructure

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sustainable and we think f

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that in two different ways.

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parking to the community and so

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we want to for folks to be

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drivers, we want them to have

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access to chargers but we want

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to make sure those chargers are

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assets that are lasting that

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are in good quality and that

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are something that can be well

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maintained and managed.

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infrastructure in anything we

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have access to for the

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community we want it to be

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highly utilized so make sure

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that folks are charging at them

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that you know, we're filling a

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gap in the market and so the

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folks we want to the folks most

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challenges charging elsewhere

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might drive them towards

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switching to an ev by having

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do we want to make sure folks

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have a superior customer

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experience when they are

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utilizing our programs.

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of the chargers that we own.

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a map with kind of laying out

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structures they have two ports

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city hall and then some more at

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shields civic art center.

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our chargers within the broader

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drivers driving around and

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where they go this is an area

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where we're planning to do more

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detailed analysis on.

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that but there are a lot of

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where publicly available

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chargers are and then the

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are our fleet only chargers at

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we own but they're not

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one on the right just kind of

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highlights what we just talked

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chargers that are available to

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the public are in downtown and

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then we also have a few

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overarching plans.

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that, you know what what do you

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need to make sure that you have

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a modern successful ev charging

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program?

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here is how a lot of public

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then the cars will come.

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grant funding is right?

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They'll have you pay to put the

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actual thing in the ground and

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then kind of the high level you

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think of it you're good to go

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other elements that you need to

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absorb all of all of what's on

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I think the three things I want

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to point out is you need two

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different types of staff.

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maintenance on the charger so

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actually switch out components

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whether that's them degrading

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over time vandalism for lots of

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different reasons.

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the chargers need they need

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work.

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And then you also need olks on

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the customer support side so

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that when a customer is using

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the charger they can reach

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someone if they're having an

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issue and then you need some

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data tracking to make sure that

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the chargers are being

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communicated with and that also

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we can kind of see how they're

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being used and operated.

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>> so ight now our model we

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definitely have this part down

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but we've been sort of using a

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few different structures to try

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and fit in the other pieces and

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so the way that that's looking

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for us is that there's nobody

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in the city who it's their

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their ain responsibility to

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manage the chargers.

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It's sort of something that

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different teams are doing on

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top of work that they already

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have.

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And so from their labor from

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materials and mainly from the

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electricity going into them

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we're spending approximately

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$250,000 a year to provide this

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asset to the public.

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As I said before we started

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this about ten years ago, some

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of the chargers are original

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and so we're starting to see

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the aging in that

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infrastructure.

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But we've also seen a lot of

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them go out for various

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reasons.

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So we're trying to keep on top

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of the equipment that we have

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and then because we're managing

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it all internally we have

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different systems.

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We don't have the most modern

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data tracking on you know,

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who's using the chargers for

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how long.

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A lot of that is there are more

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modern ways to be able to track

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that and then that could help

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us looking at how to expand

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that potentially in the future

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.

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And then we are seeing at at

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some of our sites folks are

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coming there specifically to

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use the chargers maybe not to

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access the city facility that's

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there as well.

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And so sometimes they have a

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more charger focused mindset

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and that can provide some

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conflicts with the actual use

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at the site.

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And so for example, our

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challenge site is a preschool.

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There's lots of pick up and

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drop off and people milling

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around and lots of kids and

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some folks are coming in and

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out of the parking lot just for

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the chargers and so that has

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led to some conflicts just in

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the different priorities of

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users at that site.

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So the chargers went in around

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2016 2017 to start in the 2018

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rethinking mobility plan.

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It's kind of understood that

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there would there could be

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reasons to start charging a fee

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for the chargers.

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Currently we do not charge for

382
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them but coming out of that

383
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plan a fee range was

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established so that we could

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elect to charge charge money

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for the use of the chargers

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charge to charges kind of how

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we refer to it internally.

389
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So as they said right now we're

390
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not utilizing that fee but it

391
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has been sort of updated

392
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through different fee

393
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structures since 2018 and

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currently the adopted fee range

395
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is between $0.16 to $1 per

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kilowatt hour which is how you

397
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measure you know, ev charging

398
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versus a per gallon.

399
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And we've been doing some

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research and looking at what

401
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other publicly city owned

402
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chargers in contra costa county

403
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what folks are charging for

404
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those and from our research so

405
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far most of them are charging a

406
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fee and it averages about $0.36

407
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a kilowatt hour.

408
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So this next slide it goes back

409
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to those goals that I talked

410
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about previously of what are

411
00:12:00,367 --> 00:12:01,340
the goals that we have around

412
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this ev charger program and

413
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having public access.

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And this slide here kind of as

415
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a color gradient to show how

416
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well we're doing right now at

417
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meeting each of those goals.

418
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So the chargers are highly

419
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utilized if you drive by them

420
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most of the time you'll see

421
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there's there's usually people

422
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in most of them.

423
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So for that one we are doing

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well right now.

425
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>> the community access is more

426
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of an orange medium success

427
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because our understanding is

428
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that there's they're kind of

429
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like the best kept secret in a

430
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way.

431
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So there's a small group of

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people who know these chargers

433
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exist and know that they're

434
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free and are highly utilizing

435
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them but it's not generally

436
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known amongst the community.

437
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And because they're so highly

438
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utilized right now we don't

439
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necessarily promote them very

440
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much because there's not always

441
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availability at them right.

442
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And so we're really trying to

443
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target folks as I said earlier

444
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who might not buy an ev

445
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otherwise.

446
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So with them right now with

447
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them being free for everyone,

448
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it's cheaper generally than

449
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charging at home.

450
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So we do see that there's those

451
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folks who know about them are

452
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using them a lot.

453
00:13:06,534 --> 00:13:07,468
So that's that's kind of a

454
00:13:07,468 --> 00:13:07,902
there's a few different ways to

455
00:13:07,902 --> 00:13:09,870
look at that.

456
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Terms of the sustainable

457
00:13:10,471 --> 00:13:12,471
ifrastructure right now

458
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because we don't have the

459
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dedicated internal staff and

460
00:13:18,178 --> 00:13:19,460
the management company of the

461
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chargers changes on how you can

462
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replace different parts over

463
00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,160
time.

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It takes a lot of communication

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back and forth between our

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staff and the charger companies

467
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.

468
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And so it's been challenging to

469
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keep them up and running and

470
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replace them quickly.

471
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It's a lot these hard to

472
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orchestrate is the quality

473
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customer experience.

474
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So even though we have these

475
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high utilizers we do hear from

476
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them a lot when chargers are

477
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down they'll be own for a long

478
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time.

479
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And then as I mentioned earlier

480
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a can right now cause some

481
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challenges with other facility

482
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users as well.

483
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So we think that there are ways

484
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to improve this.

485
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,481
>> so our recommendation is to

486
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improve the program.

487
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There are third party operators

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that we could contract with who

489
00:14:01,288 --> 00:14:04,580
would be able to provide 24

490
00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:07,580
seven customer support which is

491
00:14:07,561 --> 00:14:08,462
not a model that we're able to

492
00:14:08,462 --> 00:14:09,163
provide right now and then also

493
00:14:09,163 --> 00:14:11,163
provide proactive maintenance

494
00:14:11,766 --> 00:14:12,466
on the chargers and they have

495
00:14:12,466 --> 00:14:14,866
more modern tracking systems.

496
00:14:15,503 --> 00:14:16,203
There's lot of different

497
00:14:16,203 --> 00:14:19,340
flexibility in how we set up a

498
00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:19,640
contract with someone like

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00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,542
that.

500
00:14:20,542 --> 00:14:23,444
And you in the contracts can

501
00:14:23,444 --> 00:14:24,111
set minimum required uptime is

502
00:14:24,111 --> 00:14:26,548
how it's referred to making

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00:14:26,548 --> 00:14:27,548
sure the chargers are working

504
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you know 95 plus percent of the

505
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time.

506
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Things like that because that

507
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turnaround minimums for

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00:14:31,152 --> 00:14:33,955
response time and all of that

509
00:14:33,955 --> 00:14:34,989
so it can be very closely

510
00:14:34,989 --> 00:14:37,692
managed but it's also in a way

511
00:14:37,692 --> 00:14:38,393
that's done by a third party.

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So it doesn't have to take up

513
00:14:39,194 --> 00:14:41,262
as much of our staff time and

514
00:14:41,262 --> 00:14:41,729
it's also folks who are more

515
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expert in this.

516
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This is what they do all day,

517
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every day.

518
00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:48,133
Generally how those work is

519
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that the fee that you are

520
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charging for the use of the

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charger they take a cut of it

522
00:14:52,974 --> 00:14:53,541
and the cut depends on how much

523
00:14:53,541 --> 00:14:55,910
you're having them do.

524
00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:56,577
So there's quite a bit of

525
00:14:56,577 --> 00:14:57,278
variability there and we're

526
00:14:57,278 --> 00:15:00,247
still sort of researching the

527
00:15:00,247 --> 00:15:00,915
exact model of what's out there

528
00:15:00,915 --> 00:15:03,384
in the market and what might

529
00:15:03,384 --> 00:15:04,452
work well for us.

530
00:15:04,452 --> 00:15:07,722
>> but in order to do that you

531
00:15:07,722 --> 00:15:08,289
have to be charging a fee for

532
00:15:08,289 --> 00:15:09,124
them to ake a cut of.

533
00:15:09,124 --> 00:15:11,159
So in order to make that work

534
00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:11,959
we would uggest beginning to

535
00:15:11,959 --> 00:15:14,629
charge a fee for the public

536
00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:15,663
facing chargers.

537
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And our goal that we'd

538
00:15:19,968 --> 00:15:23,338
recommend is to still et the

539
00:15:23,338 --> 00:15:24,720
rates lower to start lower than

540
00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,472
our comparable neighbor cities.

541
00:15:26,641 --> 00:15:27,342
>> but the goal that we still

542
00:15:27,342 --> 00:15:29,978
want them to be accessible we

543
00:15:29,978 --> 00:15:30,812
want it to be something that

544
00:15:30,812 --> 00:15:33,681
would be much cheaper than

545
00:15:33,681 --> 00:15:34,483
fueling a gas powered car but

546
00:15:34,483 --> 00:15:38,830
give us enough funding to keep

547
00:15:38,419 --> 00:15:39,421
the system sustainable.

548
00:15:39,421 --> 00:15:42,223
And maybe for folks who could

549
00:15:42,223 --> 00:15:42,957
be charging at home, maybe they

550
00:15:42,957 --> 00:15:43,624
have slightly less incentive to

551
00:15:43,624 --> 00:15:45,927
be using the city chargers.

552
00:15:45,927 --> 00:15:46,661
And then that would free up

553
00:15:46,661 --> 00:15:47,361
space for those folks who don't

554
00:15:47,361 --> 00:15:49,431
have that option to charge at

555
00:15:49,431 --> 00:15:53,310
home because this would be new

556
00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:53,768
and would be still kind of

557
00:15:53,768 --> 00:15:54,435
figuring out all the logistics.

558
00:15:54,435 --> 00:15:56,972
We'd make sure to regularly

559
00:15:56,972 --> 00:15:57,706
review those rates and ensure

560
00:15:57,706 --> 00:15:59,674
that it's creating the behavior

561
00:15:59,674 --> 00:16:01,674
that we are.

562
00:16:03,845 --> 00:16:04,846
>> that's our goal.

563
00:16:04,846 --> 00:16:07,148
>> so this is our last slide

564
00:16:07,148 --> 00:16:07,515
before we take feedback and

565
00:16:07,515 --> 00:16:08,383
questions.

566
00:16:08,383 --> 00:16:11,386
So we're coming to you tonight

567
00:16:11,386 --> 00:16:12,200
to get your feedback on this

568
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,420
analysis and your thoughts

569
00:16:14,989 --> 00:16:15,991
about this plan.

570
00:16:15,991 --> 00:16:16,658
And then in JULY we're going to

571
00:16:16,658 --> 00:16:19,361
take this to city council as

572
00:16:19,361 --> 00:16:19,995
part of a larger plan that

573
00:16:19,995 --> 00:16:22,640
we're developing that also

574
00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:22,530
looks at goals around our

575
00:16:22,530 --> 00:16:24,530
internal fleet.

576
00:16:26,267 --> 00:16:27,680
And if we get approval of the

577
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,971
plan from council then we would

578
00:16:29,971 --> 00:16:30,805
spend late summer early fall

579
00:16:30,805 --> 00:16:31,472
doing that vendor analysis and

580
00:16:31,472 --> 00:16:33,909
really getting a much better

581
00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:36,309
understanding of what exactly

582
00:16:36,979 --> 00:16:37,379
the economics of that would be

583
00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:38,246
.

584
00:16:38,246 --> 00:16:41,817
Okay, if we move forward with

585
00:16:41,817 --> 00:16:42,517
that direction then we would do

586
00:16:42,517 --> 00:16:45,120
targeted outreach to the users

587
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120
of the chargers before likely

588
00:16:48,356 --> 00:16:50,959
around early 2027 would be when

589
00:16:50,959 --> 00:16:51,560
we might see a fee be

590
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,560
implemented.

591
00:16:55,331 --> 00:16:56,164
>> so that's the overview that

592
00:16:56,164 --> 00:16:56,799
for you tonight and I'm happy

593
00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:58,667
to take any questions and

594
00:16:58,667 --> 00:16:59,368
receive your feedback.

595
00:16:59,368 --> 00:16:59,735
>> thank you.

596
00:16:59,735 --> 00:17:01,735
All right.

597
00:17:02,971 --> 00:17:06,571
So we'll do commissioner q&a.

598
00:17:07,342 --> 00:17:07,943
So how about we tart with

599
00:17:07,943 --> 00:17:09,943
commissioner rick mann?

600
00:17:09,944 --> 00:17:10,846
All right.

601
00:17:10,846 --> 00:17:11,280
Thank you so much for the

602
00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,130
presentation.

603
00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:15,613
That was really good and really

604
00:17:16,317 --> 00:17:16,718
clear and it's awesome.

605
00:17:16,718 --> 00:17:18,718
Yeah.

606
00:17:19,888 --> 00:17:20,522
So I think the one thing that I

607
00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:22,791
was kind of thinking when

608
00:17:22,791 --> 00:17:23,692
you're talking about the data

609
00:17:23,692 --> 00:17:24,359
for these chargers and like the

610
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,270
locations I don't know if we

611
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:29,227
can go back to that map real

612
00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:31,733
quick but I think if possible

613
00:17:31,733 --> 00:17:32,400
can we get as much data as

614
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,302
possible before we make like

615
00:17:34,302 --> 00:17:35,103
too many decisions?

616
00:17:35,103 --> 00:17:37,907
I'm like where he private

617
00:17:37,907 --> 00:17:38,708
chargers are where the public

618
00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:39,800
chargers are like who's using

619
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,800
what?

620
00:17:42,110 --> 00:17:42,878
Like how often are they being

621
00:17:42,878 --> 00:17:45,448
used so then we can actually

622
00:17:45,448 --> 00:17:46,248
like you know, put more in in

623
00:17:46,248 --> 00:17:46,948
the places they need to go

624
00:17:46,948 --> 00:17:49,885
instead of, you know, putting

625
00:17:49,885 --> 00:17:50,519
extras in if they're not being

626
00:17:50,519 --> 00:17:53,519
used and stuff like that.

627
00:17:53,822 --> 00:17:56,491
So yeah, with the data just

628
00:17:56,491 --> 00:17:57,393
collecting that data is that

629
00:17:57,393 --> 00:18:00,393
like doable with you know

630
00:18:00,495 --> 00:18:01,730
before this all gets completed

631
00:18:01,730 --> 00:18:03,832
or you know, do you have to

632
00:18:03,832 --> 00:18:04,467
start making money first to be

633
00:18:04,467 --> 00:18:06,802
able to collect that data

634
00:18:06,802 --> 00:18:07,736
because I know that takes time

635
00:18:07,736 --> 00:18:08,700
and that's a whole process oo.

636
00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,700
>> yeah.

637
00:18:11,473 --> 00:18:12,174
Yes, that's a great question.

638
00:18:12,174 --> 00:18:12,908
So I think the way we're

639
00:18:12,908 --> 00:18:15,177
thinking of a partner right now

640
00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:15,844
is ort of stabilizing the

641
00:18:15,844 --> 00:18:18,747
charger network that e have

642
00:18:18,747 --> 00:18:21,183
now and proving that customer

643
00:18:21,183 --> 00:18:22,850
experience and the maintenance

644
00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:25,120
of it first which we think that

645
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:25,822
this you know, getting a third

646
00:18:25,822 --> 00:18:26,722
party in will help with that.

647
00:18:26,722 --> 00:18:28,824
It will also get us better data

648
00:18:28,824 --> 00:18:29,358
on what those users at those

649
00:18:29,358 --> 00:18:31,358
facilities are like.

650
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,428
But I hink before we expand

651
00:18:32,428 --> 00:18:35,464
the public chargers we want to

652
00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:36,980
do exactly that get much better

653
00:18:36,980 --> 00:18:38,835
data on which are already

654
00:18:38,835 --> 00:18:39,701
publicly available.

655
00:18:39,701 --> 00:18:40,435
>> also see if we can

656
00:18:40,435 --> 00:18:43,306
understand what might be coming

657
00:18:43,306 --> 00:18:43,973
down in the market, what are

658
00:18:43,973 --> 00:18:46,909
the trends, what are some of

659
00:18:46,909 --> 00:18:47,743
the private facilities that you

660
00:18:47,743 --> 00:18:48,477
know might put their own

661
00:18:48,477 --> 00:18:49,144
chargers and and so we can look

662
00:18:49,144 --> 00:18:50,612
at exactly that where are we

663
00:18:50,612 --> 00:18:51,447
really filling gaps?

664
00:18:51,447 --> 00:18:54,447
Another layer I'll mention that

665
00:18:54,850 --> 00:18:55,518
I want to look at in analysis

666
00:18:55,518 --> 00:18:57,853
is the housing stock that we

667
00:18:57,853 --> 00:18:58,521
have you know, where do we have

668
00:18:58,521 --> 00:18:59,550
older multifamily where it's

669
00:18:59,550 --> 00:19:01,900
going to be the most

670
00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:02,157
challenging for folks to charge

671
00:19:02,157 --> 00:19:04,994
at home and do we have, you

672
00:19:04,994 --> 00:19:05,995
know, city owned property

673
00:19:05,995 --> 00:19:06,429
around that r nearby that we

674
00:19:06,429 --> 00:19:08,429
could utilize?

675
00:19:09,632 --> 00:19:10,332
So before we expand any more of

676
00:19:10,332 --> 00:19:10,766
that, that is the direction we

677
00:19:10,766 --> 00:19:13,166
like to go in.

678
00:19:14,170 --> 00:19:14,771
>> and then just for the

679
00:19:14,771 --> 00:19:17,171
private garages, do they

680
00:19:17,806 --> 00:19:18,474
currently charge like the main

681
00:19:18,474 --> 00:19:21,811
ones in downtown or are the

682
00:19:21,811 --> 00:19:22,311
private chargers and in walnut

683
00:19:22,311 --> 00:19:22,645
creek in general?

684
00:19:22,645 --> 00:19:24,645
>> yes.

685
00:19:24,647 --> 00:19:25,515
They don't have their rates on

686
00:19:25,515 --> 00:19:28,515
hand but that is our

687
00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:30,286
understanding is that they do

688
00:19:30,286 --> 00:19:31,653
grow so we could match theirs

689
00:19:31,653 --> 00:19:35,853
or get kind of closer be like

690
00:19:38,328 --> 00:19:41,328
under there's basically a it's

691
00:19:42,999 --> 00:19:43,833
and then yeah.

692
00:19:43,833 --> 00:19:46,369
Is there any other cities that

693
00:19:46,369 --> 00:19:47,369
are kind of you know doing this

694
00:19:47,369 --> 00:19:48,380
on like a similar size to us

695
00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:51,638
that are doing a really good

696
00:19:51,775 --> 00:19:52,475
job of this like you through a

697
00:19:52,475 --> 00:19:53,209
private partnership or they're

698
00:19:53,209 --> 00:19:54,977
doing it themselves that we can

699
00:19:54,977 --> 00:19:57,847
kind of you know copy what

700
00:19:57,847 --> 00:19:59,820
they're doing a little bit.

701
00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:02,451
>> I this is something that I

702
00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:05,451
think cities in general are

703
00:20:05,855 --> 00:20:06,589
struggling with and it's I

704
00:20:06,589 --> 00:20:06,923
think it's the maintenance nd

705
00:20:06,923 --> 00:20:08,923
of that.

706
00:20:09,692 --> 00:20:10,360
I think we are there are the

707
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,960
vast majority of cities are

708
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:13,763
charging something at this

709
00:20:13,763 --> 00:20:14,497
point which is then allowing

710
00:20:14,497 --> 00:20:17,601
them to fund and t's there are

711
00:20:17,601 --> 00:20:18,301
different models of is it

712
00:20:18,301 --> 00:20:20,436
internal staff, is it external

713
00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:20,837
which charger company do they

714
00:20:20,837 --> 00:20:21,671
work with?

715
00:20:21,671 --> 00:20:24,730
I'm on a lot of email threads

716
00:20:24,730 --> 00:20:24,941
of like what is the most

717
00:20:24,941 --> 00:20:25,775
reliable ev charging pad.

718
00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,944
So I think we are all kind of

719
00:20:27,944 --> 00:20:28,678
figuring it out together but

720
00:20:28,678 --> 00:20:32,278
that is something that we think

721
00:20:32,449 --> 00:20:33,283
about as our drivers especially

722
00:20:33,283 --> 00:20:33,950
are driving to our neighboring

723
00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:36,119
cities and they don't really

724
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,953
care if they're in walnut creek

725
00:20:36,953 --> 00:20:37,721
or pleasant hill or concord.

726
00:20:37,721 --> 00:20:38,121
>> they want a similar charging

727
00:20:38,121 --> 00:20:40,121
experience.

728
00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:43,593
So that is something that we

729
00:20:43,593 --> 00:20:44,940
try to coordinate with cool.

730
00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:44,795
>> cool.

731
00:20:44,795 --> 00:20:47,397
Well thank you so much

732
00:20:47,397 --> 00:20:47,997
commissioner guerrero.

733
00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:49,997
>> thank you.

734
00:20:50,867 --> 00:20:51,734
Good presentation.

735
00:20:51,734 --> 00:20:52,502
Just a couple of questions.

736
00:20:52,502 --> 00:20:55,372
Of the $250,000 that we spend

737
00:20:55,372 --> 00:20:55,905
annually, how much of that is

738
00:20:55,905 --> 00:20:57,905
to pay electricity?

739
00:20:59,476 --> 00:20:59,909
>> so I believe I have it

740
00:20:59,909 --> 00:21:01,909
written down.

741
00:21:02,145 --> 00:21:02,646
I think t's 155,000.

742
00:21:02,646 --> 00:21:02,946
>> yes.

743
00:21:02,946 --> 00:21:03,780
Okay.

744
00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:06,683
And that comes out of the city

745
00:21:06,683 --> 00:21:07,160
budget to to pay that.

746
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,817
>> yeah.

747
00:21:07,817 --> 00:21:10,120
So right now it's just all

748
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:10,453
general funding that 200

749
00:21:10,453 --> 00:21:12,453
50,000.

750
00:21:13,657 --> 00:21:14,457
>> and do any of these charges

751
00:21:14,457 --> 00:21:15,291
ation support solar power in

752
00:21:15,291 --> 00:21:18,162
order to offset that or is that

753
00:21:18,162 --> 00:21:20,162
something in consideration?

754
00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:21,498
>> the only one that's out of

755
00:21:21,498 --> 00:21:24,498
facility with solar is city

756
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,538
hall which we currently are not

757
00:21:28,538 --> 00:21:29,373
monitoring.

758
00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:32,343
That's that's a whole nother

759
00:21:32,343 --> 00:21:33,430
challenge that the solar panels

760
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:33,710
on city hall are.

761
00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:34,411
They are operational but we

762
00:21:34,411 --> 00:21:36,313
also need better data tracking

763
00:21:36,313 --> 00:21:37,313
on those.

764
00:21:37,313 --> 00:21:40,517
But es, ideally I would say

765
00:21:40,517 --> 00:21:41,218
that that is setting it off

766
00:21:41,218 --> 00:21:41,985
offsetting it a bit.

767
00:21:41,985 --> 00:21:44,355
I'm not sure if we've thought

768
00:21:44,355 --> 00:21:45,550
about putting solar and in

769
00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:47,958
other facilities but I'm glad

770
00:21:47,958 --> 00:21:49,958
you said that.

771
00:21:50,994 --> 00:21:52,994
17 yes.

772
00:21:54,798 --> 00:21:55,598
So ideally the chargers would

773
00:21:55,598 --> 00:21:56,300
be on their own meter which

774
00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:59,300
could still interact with the

775
00:21:59,436 --> 00:22:02,906
solar on the building but you

776
00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:03,741
can get an ev charger

777
00:22:03,741 --> 00:22:06,610
electricity rate from mce or

778
00:22:06,610 --> 00:22:07,210
energy provider that's more

779
00:22:07,210 --> 00:22:07,711
favorable to the type of

780
00:22:07,711 --> 00:22:09,711
charging for that.

781
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:11,681
Some of ours are networked on

782
00:22:11,681 --> 00:22:14,284
their own meter and some f

783
00:22:14,284 --> 00:22:15,118
them are not so that would be a

784
00:22:15,118 --> 00:22:18,356
goal over time to is to get

785
00:22:18,356 --> 00:22:18,956
them on their own meter but

786
00:22:18,956 --> 00:22:20,956
probably wouldn't happen

787
00:22:22,526 --> 00:22:22,860
necessarily for all of them

788
00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:23,194
before.

789
00:22:23,194 --> 00:22:23,894
>> okay.

790
00:22:23,894 --> 00:22:25,963
Would like to implement this.

791
00:22:25,963 --> 00:22:26,630
So I assume a lot of this

792
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:29,300
information was developed by

793
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,000
from from black and veatch.

794
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,267
>> yes.

795
00:22:30,267 --> 00:22:32,267
yes.

796
00:22:32,937 --> 00:22:33,637
So we worked with them that was

797
00:22:33,637 --> 00:22:34,538
our consultant on this plan.

798
00:22:34,538 --> 00:22:37,641
>> and do they have more data

799
00:22:37,641 --> 00:22:38,342
as to what ryan was saying as

800
00:22:38,342 --> 00:22:40,711
far as other cities have been

801
00:22:40,711 --> 00:22:41,479
successful as far as you know

802
00:22:41,479 --> 00:22:41,745
how to go about implementing

803
00:22:41,745 --> 00:22:43,745
it?

804
00:22:43,947 --> 00:22:47,418
And I guess to follow that, you

805
00:22:47,418 --> 00:22:48,850
know, is solar powered you know

806
00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:50,485
charging stations that that

807
00:22:51,622 --> 00:22:52,323
support the infrastructure, is

808
00:22:52,323 --> 00:22:53,230
that something they recommend?

809
00:22:53,230 --> 00:22:55,192
>> I'm just kind of curious of

810
00:22:55,192 --> 00:22:56,600
that piece that wasn't

811
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:56,693
something that came up in the

812
00:22:56,693 --> 00:22:59,930
analysis or something hat

813
00:22:59,831 --> 00:23:00,164
we've seen directly from other

814
00:23:00,164 --> 00:23:02,164
cities.

815
00:23:03,330 --> 00:23:03,834
I think even if the electricity

816
00:23:03,834 --> 00:23:06,834
that the chargers were using

817
00:23:07,338 --> 00:23:07,938
was fully offset by the solar

818
00:23:07,938 --> 00:23:08,605
power or some other

819
00:23:08,605 --> 00:23:11,500
alternative, you would still

820
00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:11,975
have the maintenance costs and

821
00:23:11,975 --> 00:23:12,676
the networking cost.

822
00:23:12,676 --> 00:23:13,377
So there are still costs but

823
00:23:13,377 --> 00:23:15,777
obviously electricity is it's

824
00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:16,514
more than half of the rate

825
00:23:16,514 --> 00:23:18,514
we're paying now.

826
00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:19,750
But you would we would still

827
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:20,418
see hose maintenance

828
00:23:20,418 --> 00:23:21,520
challenges nd those sorts of

829
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,287
things where a third party

830
00:23:23,287 --> 00:23:23,988
could help address that.

831
00:23:23,988 --> 00:23:24,621
>> got it.

832
00:23:24,621 --> 00:23:27,621
And then what's what's the

833
00:23:27,958 --> 00:23:30,958
difference between the the lots

834
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:32,863
that like tesla runs where you

835
00:23:32,863 --> 00:23:36,330
see all the tesla chargers like

836
00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:36,834
the jam or you know across from

837
00:23:36,834 --> 00:23:38,903
other farms and he's put those

838
00:23:38,903 --> 00:23:39,737
in now.

839
00:23:39,737 --> 00:23:42,137
Like are we benefiting?

840
00:23:42,239 --> 00:23:45,839
Are we profiting at all from

841
00:23:46,211 --> 00:23:46,444
from any of those private ones

842
00:23:46,444 --> 00:23:47,444
.

843
00:23:47,444 --> 00:23:47,811
>> so none of those are on city

844
00:23:47,811 --> 00:23:48,512
property.

845
00:23:48,512 --> 00:23:50,881
so they're they're all managed

846
00:23:50,881 --> 00:23:52,881
privately.

847
00:23:55,153 --> 00:23:55,820
>> we did look at models to you

848
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:56,521
know, potentially lease city

849
00:23:56,521 --> 00:23:58,790
spaces which is something that

850
00:23:58,790 --> 00:23:59,624
some other cities do and then

851
00:23:59,624 --> 00:24:02,627
the the third party can do 100%

852
00:24:02,627 --> 00:24:03,361
of that but that would e I

853
00:24:03,361 --> 00:24:06,364
think we were looking at how do

854
00:24:06,364 --> 00:24:07,310
we solve the problem now in the

855
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:09,467
short term with the charters

856
00:24:09,467 --> 00:24:10,680
that we have and from our

857
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,680
analysis, you know

858
00:24:12,136 --> 00:24:12,771
transitioning that to the third

859
00:24:12,771 --> 00:24:15,771
party is what makes sense

860
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,741
because someone who would come

861
00:24:16,741 --> 00:24:19,770
in at least a spot they don't

862
00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:19,878
want to buy our old

863
00:24:19,878 --> 00:24:20,344
infrastructure or work with our

864
00:24:20,344 --> 00:24:22,344
aging chargers.

865
00:24:23,515 --> 00:24:24,215
So when we go back to looking

866
00:24:24,215 --> 00:24:26,615
at expanding, that's something

867
00:24:27,518 --> 00:24:27,885
that we'll keep on the table to

868
00:24:27,885 --> 00:24:28,586
consider.

869
00:24:28,586 --> 00:24:30,955
But I think in the short term

870
00:24:30,955 --> 00:24:31,756
that's not something that is

871
00:24:31,756 --> 00:24:32,190
likely to solve the issues that

872
00:24:32,190 --> 00:24:32,524
we're having.

873
00:24:32,524 --> 00:24:34,524
>> okay.

874
00:24:35,226 --> 00:24:36,127
I just have one last thing.

875
00:24:36,127 --> 00:24:38,796
Could you show me the or you

876
00:24:38,796 --> 00:24:41,796
talked about the different the

877
00:24:42,433 --> 00:24:43,234
customer and the network and

878
00:24:43,234 --> 00:24:43,601
the little map that show like

879
00:24:43,601 --> 00:24:43,935
who deals?

880
00:24:43,935 --> 00:24:45,935
>> yeah.

881
00:24:46,671 --> 00:24:47,405
So right now how is how is that

882
00:24:47,405 --> 00:24:50,405
manage these pieces right here?

883
00:24:51,843 --> 00:24:52,176
Like who actually does that for

884
00:24:52,176 --> 00:24:53,411
for us?

885
00:24:53,411 --> 00:24:53,845
>> yes I'll bring you up for

886
00:24:53,845 --> 00:24:54,679
that one.

887
00:24:54,679 --> 00:24:57,582
>> so I just want to understand

888
00:24:57,582 --> 00:25:01,180
a little bit can just as much

889
00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:01,586
color.

890
00:25:01,586 --> 00:25:02,186
Good evening.

891
00:25:02,186 --> 00:25:02,520
Gina eicher public works

892
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
manager.

893
00:25:04,723 --> 00:25:05,457
So currently right now we ave

894
00:25:05,457 --> 00:25:08,457
some of our signal technicians

895
00:25:09,161 --> 00:25:12,296
who are not ev experts but they

896
00:25:12,296 --> 00:25:13,640
are able to go out there and

897
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,640
make repairs to our ev

898
00:25:16,734 --> 00:25:17,369
infrastructure for the phone

899
00:25:17,369 --> 00:25:20,369
calls, go to our traffic

900
00:25:20,439 --> 00:25:21,720
operation center which really

901
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:21,673
only monitors their in the

902
00:25:21,673 --> 00:25:24,673
field most of the day.

903
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:25,810
So they don't even get the

904
00:25:25,810 --> 00:25:26,645
calls until the end of the day.

905
00:25:26,645 --> 00:25:29,281
Then they're able to kind of go

906
00:25:29,281 --> 00:25:29,981
through their you know, their

907
00:25:29,981 --> 00:25:30,715
voicemail is the following day

908
00:25:30,715 --> 00:25:33,685
they MAY be able to go out and

909
00:25:33,685 --> 00:25:33,985
take a look at it 90% of the

910
00:25:33,985 --> 00:25:35,985
time.

911
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:36,755
Right now we do not have the

912
00:25:36,755 --> 00:25:39,155
infrastructure in place that

913
00:25:40,225 --> 00:25:43,225
allows us to make repairs.

914
00:25:43,929 --> 00:25:44,930
So the way that the chargers

915
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:47,832
were originally set up is that

916
00:25:47,832 --> 00:25:48,700
they used to be modular.

917
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:49,401
That's not really the case so

918
00:25:49,401 --> 00:25:49,734
much anymore with the current

919
00:25:49,734 --> 00:25:51,734
vendors.

920
00:25:52,137 --> 00:25:52,838
One of the current vendors that

921
00:25:52,838 --> 00:25:55,207
we have we have to replace an

922
00:25:55,207 --> 00:25:55,841
entire system every time that

923
00:25:55,841 --> 00:25:59,441
we have a charger go down.

924
00:25:59,611 --> 00:26:00,379
So and a lot of that has to do

925
00:26:00,379 --> 00:26:02,681
with just the way that we had

926
00:26:02,681 --> 00:26:03,515
it the existing contract is so

927
00:26:03,515 --> 00:26:06,752
there's quite a bit that we can

928
00:26:06,752 --> 00:26:07,519
do to improve that experience

929
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,655
and to allow for people to have

930
00:26:10,655 --> 00:26:10,989
easier access to the charging

931
00:26:10,989 --> 00:26:11,322
systems.

932
00:26:11,322 --> 00:26:13,322
>> good.

933
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,728
So this is outside or third

934
00:26:15,728 --> 00:26:16,395
party would definitely relieve

935
00:26:16,395 --> 00:26:18,731
a lot of the stress of this.

936
00:26:18,731 --> 00:26:19,364
>> yeah we have to make do

937
00:26:19,364 --> 00:26:19,865
contract every single time

938
00:26:19,865 --> 00:26:21,865
something happens.

939
00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:22,734
So we end up going through and

940
00:26:22,734 --> 00:26:25,471
whether they get damaged or

941
00:26:25,471 --> 00:26:26,471
it's something that just

942
00:26:26,471 --> 00:26:27,306
because of the time in them we

943
00:26:27,306 --> 00:26:30,575
end up having to do individual

944
00:26:30,575 --> 00:26:31,310
contracts to get these repaired

945
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:31,643
and so that takes time and it's

946
00:26:31,643 --> 00:26:33,512
own too.

947
00:26:33,512 --> 00:26:34,145
>> sure.

948
00:26:34,145 --> 00:26:34,512
>> okay.

949
00:26:34,512 --> 00:26:35,130
Thank you.

950
00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:35,380
That's all I have.

951
00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:35,747
Thank you.

952
00:26:35,747 --> 00:26:37,747
Thank you.

953
00:26:39,551 --> 00:26:41,551
Vice chair patch.

954
00:26:43,622 --> 00:26:44,356
>> the nice thing about going

955
00:26:44,356 --> 00:26:45,230
after other people have is that

956
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:48,623
a lot of my questions were

957
00:26:49,294 --> 00:26:50,395
already answered.

958
00:26:50,395 --> 00:26:53,320
>> so a couple that I do that

959
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,632
we haven't talked about do we

960
00:26:57,402 --> 00:26:57,970
have a plan in place to replace

961
00:26:57,970 --> 00:27:00,370
the old ones already?

962
00:27:00,405 --> 00:27:01,390
I know you said you're not

963
00:27:01,390 --> 00:27:01,674
looking at expanding the

964
00:27:01,674 --> 00:27:04,443
locations right now but if

965
00:27:04,443 --> 00:27:07,443
they're already failing are we

966
00:27:08,481 --> 00:27:11,481
looking at replacing the ten

967
00:27:11,784 --> 00:27:12,170
plus old ten year plus old ones

968
00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:12,617
?

969
00:27:12,617 --> 00:27:13,418
>> yeah.

970
00:27:13,418 --> 00:27:15,888
So we are sort of was just

971
00:27:15,888 --> 00:27:16,622
talking about you know when we

972
00:27:16,622 --> 00:27:19,158
get to the oint of need to

973
00:27:19,158 --> 00:27:20,158
repair them especially now that

974
00:27:20,158 --> 00:27:20,826
the modular model is kind of

975
00:27:20,826 --> 00:27:22,861
going away with some of the

976
00:27:22,861 --> 00:27:23,763
brands we are looking at when

977
00:27:23,763 --> 00:27:26,164
it makes sense to take them out

978
00:27:26,164 --> 00:27:26,999
entirely and replace with a

979
00:27:26,999 --> 00:27:27,699
company that maybe we've had a

980
00:27:27,699 --> 00:27:30,699
better experience with and we

981
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:32,571
have replaced some I believe

982
00:27:32,571 --> 00:27:34,440
the ones at the library got the

983
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,174
if you see the blink model

984
00:27:35,174 --> 00:27:35,841
chargers those are the newer

985
00:27:35,841 --> 00:27:38,841
ones that we've worked with.

986
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:39,712
So this thing we're doing over

987
00:27:39,712 --> 00:27:42,140
time and that's coming out of

988
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:42,281
the general fund still right

989
00:27:42,281 --> 00:27:42,648
now.

990
00:27:42,648 --> 00:27:44,648
All right.

991
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:46,219
And kind of similar to the

992
00:27:46,219 --> 00:27:46,752
tesla question but not

993
00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:48,752
specifically tesla.

994
00:27:50,122 --> 00:27:50,789
>> have you thought of any

995
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:52,789
corporate sponsorships that

996
00:27:53,225 --> 00:27:55,625
like they are sponsoring

997
00:27:57,696 --> 00:27:58,731
specific charging ports and

998
00:27:58,731 --> 00:28:01,901
they might be in charge of the

999
00:28:01,901 --> 00:28:02,768
maintenance?

1000
00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:05,238
I'm my understanding where the

1001
00:28:05,238 --> 00:28:06,238
market is now on that is that

1002
00:28:06,238 --> 00:28:07,730
those in the esla this is true

1003
00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,709
for those are generally the dc

1004
00:28:09,709 --> 00:28:10,342
fast chargers which we didn't

1005
00:28:10,342 --> 00:28:12,742
really talk about charging

1006
00:28:13,212 --> 00:28:14,800
levels in the presentation but

1007
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:14,713
just for full background you

1008
00:28:14,713 --> 00:28:16,816
know there's like a level one

1009
00:28:16,816 --> 00:28:17,650
which is plugging in at home

1010
00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:18,284
into a regular plug there's

1011
00:28:18,284 --> 00:28:18,584
level two which is what we

1012
00:28:18,584 --> 00:28:20,584
have.

1013
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,856
It's sort of an in-between

1014
00:28:23,856 --> 00:28:24,857
energy level and then there's

1015
00:28:24,857 --> 00:28:25,691
level three or dc fast and so

1016
00:28:25,691 --> 00:28:28,728
those are we didn't really cost

1017
00:28:28,728 --> 00:28:29,361
more per kilowatt hour because

1018
00:28:29,361 --> 00:28:31,761
they're they're you know,

1019
00:28:31,997 --> 00:28:32,331
expending energy much more

1020
00:28:32,331 --> 00:28:33,650
quickly.

1021
00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:35,734
And so my understanding for the

1022
00:28:35,734 --> 00:28:36,435
market is right ow there's a

1023
00:28:36,435 --> 00:28:39,672
lot of though that sort of

1024
00:28:39,672 --> 00:28:40,406
model is that dc fast charger

1025
00:28:40,406 --> 00:28:42,374
kind of more charging hub folks

1026
00:28:42,374 --> 00:28:42,942
coming in and out within like

1027
00:28:42,942 --> 00:28:44,942
45 minute increments.

1028
00:28:46,379 --> 00:28:47,800
And so the folks aren't that

1029
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,882
companies that are doing that

1030
00:28:49,882 --> 00:28:50,917
are not looking at the level

1031
00:28:50,917 --> 00:28:51,383
two that's the service model we

1032
00:28:51,383 --> 00:28:52,117
have right now.

1033
00:28:52,117 --> 00:28:54,287
So I think that would kind of

1034
00:28:54,287 --> 00:28:57,356
be opening a whole a whole

1035
00:28:57,356 --> 00:28:58,257
nother possibility that would

1036
00:28:58,257 --> 00:28:58,925
need to be part of that next

1037
00:28:58,925 --> 00:29:01,594
level of analysis for where

1038
00:29:01,594 --> 00:29:02,280
might that kind of model make

1039
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:02,362
sense for us?

1040
00:29:02,362 --> 00:29:04,362
>> sure.

1041
00:29:04,697 --> 00:29:05,631
Okay.

1042
00:29:05,631 --> 00:29:08,835
And then if we do start

1043
00:29:08,835 --> 00:29:09,869
charging people for using the

1044
00:29:09,869 --> 00:29:12,739
chargers and how much of the

1045
00:29:12,739 --> 00:29:13,539
contract and electricity are

1046
00:29:13,539 --> 00:29:17,430
you hoping to offset with the

1047
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:20,213
charging like are you trying to

1048
00:29:20,213 --> 00:29:23,650
get to 100% or is it half of it

1049
00:29:23,650 --> 00:29:24,350
that we're I think we're trying

1050
00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:28,550
to get to a better place than

1051
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:30,956
we're at now because of the

1052
00:29:30,956 --> 00:29:31,658
lack of sophistication our data

1053
00:29:31,658 --> 00:29:34,594
tracking right now we we don't

1054
00:29:34,594 --> 00:29:36,994
really have that understanding.

1055
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:38,931
And I think we also we'll have

1056
00:29:38,931 --> 00:29:39,565
to see ow it affects our

1057
00:29:39,565 --> 00:29:41,834
customer demand, how much

1058
00:29:41,834 --> 00:29:43,834
utilization we're having.

1059
00:29:46,139 --> 00:29:46,973
So we honestly aren't sure what

1060
00:29:46,973 --> 00:29:47,674
how that's going to level out

1061
00:29:47,674 --> 00:29:50,760
in the end it will definitely

1062
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:50,610
we're not be profiting off of

1063
00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:50,910
it that's for sure.

1064
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:51,611
Right.

1065
00:29:51,611 --> 00:29:53,713
I think it's still going to be

1066
00:29:53,713 --> 00:29:54,414
probably subsidized even to

1067
00:29:54,414 --> 00:29:57,250
some degree but much less than

1068
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:57,650
it is now and that's what

1069
00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:58,451
overtime is.

1070
00:29:58,451 --> 00:30:01,855
We're going to track the ate

1071
00:30:01,855 --> 00:30:02,589
especially early on to make

1072
00:30:02,589 --> 00:30:02,989
sure we're kind of hitting that

1073
00:30:02,989 --> 00:30:04,989
right mark?

1074
00:30:06,393 --> 00:30:06,760
So that's a long way o say I'm

1075
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,226
not sure.

1076
00:30:07,226 --> 00:30:09,620
>> fair enough.

1077
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:11,620
Okay.

1078
00:30:16,103 --> 00:30:17,336
And then my my last question is

1079
00:30:17,336 --> 00:30:18,500
,you know, I don't know how to

1080
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:21,500
phrase this actually so I'm

1081
00:30:21,410 --> 00:30:21,441
going to I'm just going to skip

1082
00:30:21,441 --> 00:30:23,441
it for now.

1083
00:30:24,244 --> 00:30:24,844
>> we'll come back to you.

1084
00:30:24,844 --> 00:30:25,211
>> all right.

1085
00:30:25,211 --> 00:30:27,211
Thank you.

1086
00:30:31,318 --> 00:30:31,885
Great presentation,

1087
00:30:31,885 --> 00:30:33,885
commissioner guerrero.

1088
00:30:34,788 --> 00:30:36,220
Got my top question.

1089
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,691
How much of the money was going

1090
00:30:38,691 --> 00:30:39,926
to electricity?

1091
00:30:39,926 --> 00:30:41,795
So I'll I'll ask the flip side

1092
00:30:41,795 --> 00:30:43,795
question.

1093
00:30:44,965 --> 00:30:45,832
>> so the other approximate

1094
00:30:45,832 --> 00:30:48,232
$100,000 what would be the

1095
00:30:49,169 --> 00:30:49,970
biggest buckets on an annual

1096
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:52,970
that we're spending on that's

1097
00:30:53,239 --> 00:30:53,707
not electricity with our

1098
00:30:53,707 --> 00:30:54,740
current model?

1099
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:54,875
>> yeah.

1100
00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:58,111
The next biggest bucket is the

1101
00:30:58,111 --> 00:30:59,946
contracts hat I was mentioning

1102
00:30:59,946 --> 00:31:00,713
with aintenance staff that's

1103
00:31:00,713 --> 00:31:01,581
about another 60,000.

1104
00:31:01,581 --> 00:31:04,184
And then the rest is sort of

1105
00:31:04,184 --> 00:31:04,985
spread across our internal

1106
00:31:04,985 --> 00:31:07,887
staff time that if we are

1107
00:31:07,887 --> 00:31:08,522
purchasing the equipment

1108
00:31:08,522 --> 00:31:08,922
ourselves that's needed to

1109
00:31:08,922 --> 00:31:10,922
replace it.

1110
00:31:12,192 --> 00:31:13,260
And then the the limited

1111
00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:14,894
networking that we do have the

1112
00:31:14,894 --> 00:31:15,529
fees for that.

1113
00:31:15,529 --> 00:31:17,529
>> okay, great.

1114
00:31:19,666 --> 00:31:23,136
So speaking of the data and

1115
00:31:23,136 --> 00:31:26,136
networking, if you can share

1116
00:31:26,606 --> 00:31:30,206
briefly what what kind of data

1117
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:31,344
elements do we get today?

1118
00:31:31,344 --> 00:31:32,145
>> what are the ones we don't

1119
00:31:32,145 --> 00:31:34,281
get that we really want that

1120
00:31:34,281 --> 00:31:37,281
makes having one of these

1121
00:31:40,254 --> 00:31:41,488
providers really beneficial?

1122
00:31:41,488 --> 00:31:44,457
>> right now we do not have a

1123
00:31:44,457 --> 00:31:45,126
system in place to regularly

1124
00:31:45,126 --> 00:31:47,894
monitor data so it's sort of

1125
00:31:47,894 --> 00:31:48,562
like a project to get the data

1126
00:31:48,562 --> 00:31:52,132
updated and dig in to that.

1127
00:31:52,132 --> 00:31:54,935
So what we would be able to get

1128
00:31:54,935 --> 00:31:55,603
with this is more our

1129
00:31:55,603 --> 00:31:56,337
understanding and we'll find

1130
00:31:56,337 --> 00:31:58,606
out the details of this when we

1131
00:31:58,606 --> 00:31:59,340
do the rfp and really

1132
00:31:59,340 --> 00:31:59,707
understand what the vendors are

1133
00:31:59,707 --> 00:32:01,707
offering.

1134
00:32:02,109 --> 00:32:02,809
But our understanding for the

1135
00:32:02,809 --> 00:32:03,444
research e have now is it's

1136
00:32:03,444 --> 00:32:06,179
more like a ashboard model

1137
00:32:06,179 --> 00:32:07,470
where you could regularly check

1138
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:09,983
in with days of what times of

1139
00:32:09,983 --> 00:32:11,170
day are they being with you,

1140
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:13,687
how long are folks staying at

1141
00:32:13,687 --> 00:32:14,622
them?

1142
00:32:14,622 --> 00:32:17,622
There's also likely the ability

1143
00:32:17,791 --> 00:32:18,426
to get understanding of repeat

1144
00:32:18,426 --> 00:32:18,793
customers versus different

1145
00:32:18,793 --> 00:32:20,793
customers.

1146
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:22,796
So all of that would really

1147
00:32:22,796 --> 00:32:25,932
give us better insight to who

1148
00:32:25,932 --> 00:32:26,733
is using it and how they're

1149
00:32:26,733 --> 00:32:27,434
using it and how's that

1150
00:32:27,434 --> 00:32:28,690
behavior maybe different than

1151
00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:30,170
some of our other parking

1152
00:32:30,170 --> 00:32:30,504
customers in those facilities

1153
00:32:30,504 --> 00:32:32,504
as well?

1154
00:32:33,874 --> 00:32:37,244
So with the existing free model

1155
00:32:37,244 --> 00:32:40,614
or if we got one of these

1156
00:32:40,614 --> 00:32:41,248
companies in place but we were

1157
00:32:41,248 --> 00:32:44,248
still going with free, how

1158
00:32:45,752 --> 00:32:46,486
would we identify I like the

1159
00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:48,789
repeat customers who's using it

1160
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:49,489
like what what data if anything

1161
00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:53,890
do we capture from the people

1162
00:32:53,727 --> 00:32:54,270
driving up I'm plugging in

1163
00:32:54,270 --> 00:32:54,361
today.

1164
00:32:54,361 --> 00:32:56,197
>> yeah.

1165
00:32:56,197 --> 00:32:56,797
Do you want that part?

1166
00:32:56,797 --> 00:32:58,797
Yeah, maybe.

1167
00:33:00,334 --> 00:33:01,680
So the data if we were to try

1168
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,304
to go we would have to get

1169
00:33:03,304 --> 00:33:04,104
another ontract in place that

1170
00:33:04,104 --> 00:33:06,907
would allow for us to better

1171
00:33:06,907 --> 00:33:07,908
monitor that.

1172
00:33:07,908 --> 00:33:11,245
It really depends if that's a

1173
00:33:11,245 --> 00:33:11,945
good answer right now because

1174
00:33:11,945 --> 00:33:12,346
we really don't know what our

1175
00:33:12,346 --> 00:33:14,346
options are.

1176
00:33:15,416 --> 00:33:16,217
So we really looking to kind of

1177
00:33:16,217 --> 00:33:18,786
when e do when we go out to

1178
00:33:18,786 --> 00:33:19,486
try to get a third party vendor

1179
00:33:19,486 --> 00:33:20,540
we're really going to do more

1180
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:22,623
of like a request for

1181
00:33:22,623 --> 00:33:23,357
qualifications and have them

1182
00:33:23,357 --> 00:33:26,461
tell us hat it is that e're

1183
00:33:26,461 --> 00:33:27,195
missing out on because we don't

1184
00:33:27,195 --> 00:33:27,595
right now we don't know what we

1185
00:33:27,595 --> 00:33:27,962
don't know.

1186
00:33:27,962 --> 00:33:29,962
>> right.

1187
00:33:30,631 --> 00:33:31,398
Because I think if we go to a

1188
00:33:31,398 --> 00:33:34,302
fee model we're going to get

1189
00:33:34,302 --> 00:33:37,400
credit card numbers and we'll

1190
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:37,404
know we'll know who's using

1191
00:33:37,404 --> 00:33:37,939
system.

1192
00:33:37,939 --> 00:33:38,639
>> right.

1193
00:33:38,639 --> 00:33:39,273
So it wouldn't necessarily be

1194
00:33:39,273 --> 00:33:41,673
with credit card numbers.

1195
00:33:41,676 --> 00:33:42,376
i think that they actually

1196
00:33:42,376 --> 00:33:45,313
users have to have like a sign

1197
00:33:45,313 --> 00:33:45,979
on it like oh like an app like

1198
00:33:45,979 --> 00:33:46,714
an app that they utilize so

1199
00:33:46,714 --> 00:33:49,217
they don't do with credit cards

1200
00:33:49,217 --> 00:33:52,217
because we don't there's a

1201
00:33:52,386 --> 00:33:52,654
whole compliance thing with pci

1202
00:33:52,654 --> 00:33:53,321
.

1203
00:33:53,321 --> 00:33:53,688
Yeah, exactly with it.

1204
00:33:53,688 --> 00:33:55,688
Thank you.

1205
00:33:56,357 --> 00:33:57,157
So there is an entire pci that

1206
00:33:57,157 --> 00:33:57,859
we model that they have to

1207
00:33:57,859 --> 00:33:58,593
follow and that's all part of

1208
00:33:58,593 --> 00:34:00,280
the process that we would have

1209
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,928
to go through.

1210
00:34:00,928 --> 00:34:04,265
We would be getting way more in

1211
00:34:04,265 --> 00:34:04,999
the details if I started to

1212
00:34:04,999 --> 00:34:07,999
explain the fact that sometimes

1213
00:34:08,102 --> 00:34:08,502
the vendor is not even involved

1214
00:34:08,502 --> 00:34:09,337
in that.

1215
00:34:09,337 --> 00:34:12,340
So it is just a totally

1216
00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:13,410
different option but we don't

1217
00:34:13,410 --> 00:34:13,775
know what we don't know right

1218
00:34:13,775 --> 00:34:16,411
now and so we're really looking

1219
00:34:16,411 --> 00:34:17,145
to see what kind of models are

1220
00:34:17,145 --> 00:34:19,915
possibly out there and that

1221
00:34:19,915 --> 00:34:20,582
would allow us by going out you

1222
00:34:20,582 --> 00:34:23,685
know, to search out at third

1223
00:34:23,685 --> 00:34:24,419
party vendor we would be able

1224
00:34:24,419 --> 00:34:27,880
to see what the options are and

1225
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:27,789
maybe they could provide us

1226
00:34:27,789 --> 00:34:28,256
information even with what we

1227
00:34:28,256 --> 00:34:30,256
currently have.

1228
00:34:30,925 --> 00:34:31,258
But we won't know that until we

1229
00:34:31,258 --> 00:34:33,258
go out.

1230
00:34:34,329 --> 00:34:35,290
So here's a question and this

1231
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:38,266
is a question I think that

1232
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:38,633
would be is a pass through

1233
00:34:38,633 --> 00:34:39,267
question.

1234
00:34:39,267 --> 00:34:41,503
>> and I think when ou're

1235
00:34:41,503 --> 00:34:42,203
asking vendors would any one of

1236
00:34:42,203 --> 00:34:45,106
these vendors have the ability

1237
00:34:45,106 --> 00:34:49,306
to wait for it have a discount

1238
00:34:49,977 --> 00:34:50,478
free pricing kind of like a

1239
00:34:50,478 --> 00:34:51,145
validation model.

1240
00:34:51,145 --> 00:34:53,648
So if someone comes just to

1241
00:34:53,648 --> 00:34:56,648
charge they would spend a

1242
00:34:57,285 --> 00:34:58,320
little more er kilowatt hour

1243
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,556
but if they came to charge but

1244
00:35:01,556 --> 00:35:04,760
added at original joe's or one

1245
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,860
of our other restaurants maybe

1246
00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:06,161
they get it for a half price or

1247
00:35:06,161 --> 00:35:06,861
free.

1248
00:35:06,861 --> 00:35:08,864
It'd be an interesting to ask

1249
00:35:08,864 --> 00:35:09,231
the vendors if anybody could do

1250
00:35:09,231 --> 00:35:09,797
that now.

1251
00:35:09,797 --> 00:35:11,797
>> excellent question.

1252
00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:13,702
Well will pass that question

1253
00:35:13,702 --> 00:35:14,402
along because we're going to

1254
00:35:14,402 --> 00:35:16,571
give people free electricity.

1255
00:35:16,571 --> 00:35:17,305
>> it might be nice to get them

1256
00:35:17,305 --> 00:35:19,774
to spend money downtown, right?

1257
00:35:19,774 --> 00:35:23,244
Yes or in the other locations.

1258
00:35:23,244 --> 00:35:24,112
>> correct.

1259
00:35:24,112 --> 00:35:26,512
>> I think you've already

1260
00:35:26,914 --> 00:35:27,883
answered this question.

1261
00:35:27,883 --> 00:35:28,617
I was going to ask if our

1262
00:35:28,617 --> 00:35:31,219
chargers today are all the same

1263
00:35:31,219 --> 00:35:32,870
vendor and model they are not.

1264
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:32,788
>> we actually have two vendors

1265
00:35:32,788 --> 00:35:34,889
that we're utilizing right now

1266
00:35:34,889 --> 00:35:38,393
and if we went to one of these

1267
00:35:38,393 --> 00:35:39,127
newer vendors would we would we

1268
00:35:39,127 --> 00:35:39,494
wholesale replace out all these

1269
00:35:39,494 --> 00:35:40,195
chargers?

1270
00:35:40,195 --> 00:35:42,263
>> not necessarily and that is

1271
00:35:42,263 --> 00:35:43,131
not our intent.

1272
00:35:43,131 --> 00:35:43,798
Our intent is to utilize the

1273
00:35:43,798 --> 00:35:45,798
existing infrastructure and

1274
00:35:46,168 --> 00:35:46,868
have them be able to work on

1275
00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:49,268
the oldest infrastructure you

1276
00:35:50,205 --> 00:35:51,173
know, as it's needed.

1277
00:35:51,173 --> 00:35:51,573
We can determine what that

1278
00:35:51,573 --> 00:35:52,274
looks like.

1279
00:35:52,274 --> 00:35:55,510
It can be anything from a full

1280
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:55,944
replacement to use what we have

1281
00:35:55,944 --> 00:35:57,944
until it dies.

1282
00:35:58,547 --> 00:35:59,348
Got it right so we can

1283
00:35:59,348 --> 00:36:02,348
determine what that looks like.

1284
00:36:02,651 --> 00:36:06,955
>> and I know in the in the the

1285
00:36:06,955 --> 00:36:09,725
letter or memo e received as a

1286
00:36:09,725 --> 00:36:10,759
part of our packet it talked

1287
00:36:10,759 --> 00:36:13,829
about if we did it internally

1288
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:14,462
we would need to sound like I

1289
00:36:14,462 --> 00:36:17,462
said one full time person.

1290
00:36:17,866 --> 00:36:18,600
>> yes and even then one full

1291
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,836
time person wouldn't be able to

1292
00:36:20,836 --> 00:36:23,236
offer 24 seven service for

1293
00:36:23,939 --> 00:36:24,640
repairs and or you know

1294
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640
necessarily being able to get

1295
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:28,310
you know, chargers running up

1296
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:28,943
and running again.

1297
00:36:28,943 --> 00:36:31,847
You know, we won't have an

1298
00:36:31,847 --> 00:36:32,549
inventory on hand to quickly

1299
00:36:32,549 --> 00:36:36,149
swap things out as when you

1300
00:36:36,352 --> 00:36:36,885
have a vendor an on hand they

1301
00:36:36,885 --> 00:36:37,218
have those options.

1302
00:36:37,218 --> 00:36:39,218
>> okay.

1303
00:36:39,755 --> 00:36:40,422
So it sounds like something is

1304
00:36:40,422 --> 00:36:42,822
more valuable beneficial to

1305
00:36:43,525 --> 00:36:46,729
outsource then I always hate to

1306
00:36:46,729 --> 00:36:46,962
see jobs outsourced of the city

1307
00:36:46,962 --> 00:36:47,963
.

1308
00:36:47,963 --> 00:36:48,631
>> I think that that is our

1309
00:36:48,631 --> 00:36:49,231
recommendation is to look at

1310
00:36:49,231 --> 00:36:50,699
the third party vendor.

1311
00:36:50,699 --> 00:36:52,699
Got it.

1312
00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:55,971
Those are all my questions.

1313
00:36:55,971 --> 00:36:56,405
>> vice chair patch did you

1314
00:36:56,405 --> 00:36:58,307
your question.

1315
00:36:58,307 --> 00:36:59,700
I've got two what I needed

1316
00:36:59,700 --> 00:36:59,341
around the data so we're good.

1317
00:36:59,341 --> 00:37:01,341
>> okay.

1318
00:37:01,543 --> 00:37:02,144
Awesome.

1319
00:37:02,144 --> 00:37:02,845
>> all right.

1320
00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:03,479
Any any further questions from

1321
00:37:03,479 --> 00:37:05,879
any of the commissioners?

1322
00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:06,448
I had one other question

1323
00:37:06,448 --> 00:37:07,115
actually.

1324
00:37:07,115 --> 00:37:09,351
Um, I don't know if you saw

1325
00:37:09,351 --> 00:37:10,190
this if I missed it, but did

1326
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:11,454
you say what the cost per

1327
00:37:11,454 --> 00:37:15,540
charger is for like to replace

1328
00:37:15,958 --> 00:37:19,494
one or to put one in writing it

1329
00:37:19,494 --> 00:37:20,463
back up like average?

1330
00:37:20,463 --> 00:37:21,163
>> I know there's a bunch of

1331
00:37:21,163 --> 00:37:22,598
different ones too, but yeah,

1332
00:37:22,598 --> 00:37:26,198
there are a lot currently we're

1333
00:37:26,268 --> 00:37:26,602
seeing anywhere from 11,000 to

1334
00:37:26,602 --> 00:37:27,203
15,000.

1335
00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:30,203
>> it's a lot of money.

1336
00:37:30,272 --> 00:37:33,442
Yeah it is a lot of money and

1337
00:37:33,442 --> 00:37:34,310
if you do like a bunch in a row

1338
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:34,843
does it get a little bit

1339
00:37:34,843 --> 00:37:35,544
cheaper because the

1340
00:37:35,544 --> 00:37:37,580
infrastructure is kind of you

1341
00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:38,314
know so it depends on which

1342
00:37:38,314 --> 00:37:41,116
company we're talking about too

1343
00:37:41,116 --> 00:37:41,818
right now because like I said

1344
00:37:41,818 --> 00:37:44,720
there is one of our vendors is

1345
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:45,354
allowing for some modular

1346
00:37:45,354 --> 00:37:47,354
upgrades and updates.

1347
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,690
Another one if there's a hose

1348
00:37:51,694 --> 00:37:52,261
that's broken, they want the

1349
00:37:52,261 --> 00:37:54,261
entire head replaced.

1350
00:37:55,998 --> 00:37:58,998
>> and so whereas before you

1351
00:37:59,134 --> 00:37:59,769
know and the model or one of

1352
00:37:59,769 --> 00:38:02,169
the vendors is drastically

1353
00:38:02,705 --> 00:38:03,305
changed from when we originally

1354
00:38:03,305 --> 00:38:04,600
went with them.

1355
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,409
So that's kind of the other

1356
00:38:06,409 --> 00:38:07,243
thing that's pushing us to move

1357
00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:10,746
to a third party vendor that

1358
00:38:10,746 --> 00:38:11,247
can help us better manage this.

1359
00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:11,547
>> yeah.

1360
00:38:11,547 --> 00:38:13,547
Cool.

1361
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:15,718
Thank you.

1362
00:38:15,718 --> 00:38:16,850
>> I do have ne more question.

1363
00:38:16,850 --> 00:38:18,850
I'm sorry.

1364
00:38:18,487 --> 00:38:18,788
So originally we put these in

1365
00:38:18,788 --> 00:38:20,788
2017.

1366
00:38:22,291 --> 00:38:23,920
We don't charge for them.

1367
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,229
There must have been a plan or

1368
00:38:26,229 --> 00:38:27,300
some kind of idea of of wire

1369
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:27,462
you know what we were going to

1370
00:38:27,462 --> 00:38:29,462
do with these.

1371
00:38:29,932 --> 00:38:33,569
So my question is more like if

1372
00:38:33,569 --> 00:38:37,169
these are level two and they

1373
00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:37,973
don't charge very fast and then

1374
00:38:37,973 --> 00:38:41,143
we charge charging a fee what's

1375
00:38:41,143 --> 00:38:42,278
what's the incentive?

1376
00:38:42,278 --> 00:38:42,979
I don't have any v so I don't

1377
00:38:42,979 --> 00:38:45,682
know if I can answer this.

1378
00:38:45,682 --> 00:38:48,170
I'm asking what's the incentive

1379
00:38:48,170 --> 00:38:48,951
to use a level two that's not

1380
00:38:48,951 --> 00:38:52,555
as fast and now they ave to

1381
00:38:52,555 --> 00:38:53,890
pay a fee for it.

1382
00:38:53,890 --> 00:38:53,356
>> and will they?

1383
00:38:53,356 --> 00:38:55,356
Yes.

1384
00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:56,859
So the intent when they were

1385
00:38:56,859 --> 00:38:57,760
first put in and you also think

1386
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,129
you know ten years ago the ev

1387
00:39:00,129 --> 00:39:00,863
market was in a very different

1388
00:39:00,863 --> 00:39:04,990
place and so it really was we

1389
00:39:04,990 --> 00:39:04,835
won't charge a fee now the goal

1390
00:39:04,835 --> 00:39:05,468
of this is to try and encourage

1391
00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:07,868
folks to transition their

1392
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,471
vehicles and free is better

1393
00:39:08,471 --> 00:39:08,771
than than a fee.

1394
00:39:08,771 --> 00:39:09,606
Right.

1395
00:39:09,606 --> 00:39:11,508
and now there are so many more

1396
00:39:11,508 --> 00:39:12,208
chargers available and

1397
00:39:12,208 --> 00:39:14,608
different charging models and

1398
00:39:15,111 --> 00:39:15,979
benefits from mce if you charge

1399
00:39:15,979 --> 00:39:16,646
at home you can sign up for a

1400
00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:16,946
special app that is just for

1401
00:39:16,946 --> 00:39:18,714
that.

1402
00:39:18,714 --> 00:39:21,714
>> there's a lot more options

1403
00:39:21,851 --> 00:39:22,518
out there and so from a

1404
00:39:22,518 --> 00:39:24,518
convenience versus charging

1405
00:39:25,622 --> 00:39:26,560
perspective customers have more

1406
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,560
distinction there.

1407
00:39:29,793 --> 00:39:32,895
So I think the goal with

1408
00:39:32,895 --> 00:39:33,696
charging a fee is really to

1409
00:39:33,696 --> 00:39:34,364
make sure it's a sustainable

1410
00:39:34,364 --> 00:39:36,933
system that is providing the

1411
00:39:36,933 --> 00:39:37,767
quality customer experience.

1412
00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:40,767
I think another benefit that

1413
00:39:41,304 --> 00:39:41,971
we've we believe we will find

1414
00:39:41,971 --> 00:39:45,475
from our analysis is that it

1415
00:39:45,475 --> 00:39:46,176
will target more of the folks

1416
00:39:46,176 --> 00:39:46,843
who really need those chargers

1417
00:39:46,843 --> 00:39:49,378
who aren't ble to charge at

1418
00:39:49,378 --> 00:39:49,712
home who aren't able to charge

1419
00:39:49,712 --> 00:39:51,712
at work.

1420
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:53,883
Our feedback so far from folks

1421
00:39:53,883 --> 00:39:56,219
has been oh if you charge you

1422
00:39:56,219 --> 00:39:56,920
know at ind of this level I'll

1423
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,654
probably charge at home.

1424
00:39:57,654 --> 00:40:00,457
You know it takes that

1425
00:40:00,457 --> 00:40:01,391
convenience out.

1426
00:40:01,391 --> 00:40:02,910
It's going to cost a similar

1427
00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:05,195
amount but it's really for the

1428
00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:05,895
folks who you know, live in an

1429
00:40:05,895 --> 00:40:08,531
older apartment or don't have

1430
00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:09,165
onsite parking for whatever

1431
00:40:09,165 --> 00:40:12,350
reason they're not able to

1432
00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:12,602
charge at home or they're

1433
00:40:12,602 --> 00:40:13,302
already accessing our

1434
00:40:13,302 --> 00:40:15,702
facilities and it's something

1435
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:16,706
that you know, can be a benefit

1436
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:18,341
for them when they're there.

1437
00:40:18,341 --> 00:40:18,941
Maybe it's convenient.

1438
00:40:18,941 --> 00:40:19,376
>> okay.

1439
00:40:19,376 --> 00:40:21,376
Mm hmm.

1440
00:40:23,246 --> 00:40:25,246
Vice chair anything?

1441
00:40:26,483 --> 00:40:26,850
So I did have one more

1442
00:40:26,850 --> 00:40:28,850
question.

1443
00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:29,619
>> I appreciate the engagement

1444
00:40:29,619 --> 00:40:30,420
.

1445
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:33,420
say, you know we care.

1446
00:40:33,523 --> 00:40:36,727
You know when you buy solar

1447
00:40:36,727 --> 00:40:37,627
panels for your house now you

1448
00:40:37,627 --> 00:40:38,328
can also, you know, essentially

1449
00:40:38,328 --> 00:40:41,765
lease some and put no money

1450
00:40:41,765 --> 00:40:42,265
down and it's like power

1451
00:40:42,265 --> 00:40:42,599
purchase program.

1452
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:44,599
>> hmm.

1453
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,669
Do any of these vendors just

1454
00:40:45,669 --> 00:40:48,872
out f curiosity have a model

1455
00:40:48,872 --> 00:40:49,406
where we don't have to do the

1456
00:40:49,406 --> 00:40:51,406
capital investment?

1457
00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:54,608
It's it's their chargers.

1458
00:40:55,379 --> 00:40:56,213
They do everything full service

1459
00:40:56,213 --> 00:40:59,783
package we pay x customer pays

1460
00:40:59,783 --> 00:41:00,830
y and hopefully we can break

1461
00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:02,830
even.

1462
00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:03,787
>> the model is more we lease

1463
00:41:03,787 --> 00:41:07,223
the parking space to them and

1464
00:41:07,223 --> 00:41:07,458
then it's their infrastructure

1465
00:41:07,458 --> 00:41:08,224
.

1466
00:41:08,224 --> 00:41:08,859
>> they set the rate.

1467
00:41:08,859 --> 00:41:11,259
There's there are some

1468
00:41:12,796 --> 00:41:13,496
parameters you can put around

1469
00:41:13,496 --> 00:41:14,165
it but that that's a bit more

1470
00:41:14,165 --> 00:41:15,899
what that would be and so it

1471
00:41:15,899 --> 00:41:16,300
wouldn't be necessarily our

1472
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:17,134
parking fee.

1473
00:41:17,134 --> 00:41:19,936
It would be their their fee on

1474
00:41:19,936 --> 00:41:20,404
their space that they're

1475
00:41:20,404 --> 00:41:20,704
leasing from us.

1476
00:41:20,704 --> 00:41:21,405
Okay.

1477
00:41:21,405 --> 00:41:23,140
So that's what we see in some

1478
00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:25,140
other cities.

1479
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:27,411
Do I I'm I'm not personally

1480
00:41:27,411 --> 00:41:28,111
aware of though this might be

1481
00:41:28,111 --> 00:41:30,347
out there like that gets more

1482
00:41:30,347 --> 00:41:31,150
complicated when it's inside

1483
00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:31,649
our garage right where we're

1484
00:41:31,649 --> 00:41:33,517
charging it so that works

1485
00:41:33,517 --> 00:41:34,251
better at a surface like but

1486
00:41:34,251 --> 00:41:34,918
yeah that's more the model

1487
00:41:34,918 --> 00:41:37,588
we've seen for that there re

1488
00:41:37,588 --> 00:41:38,122
some providers who do that.

1489
00:41:38,122 --> 00:41:38,489
Okay, great.

1490
00:41:38,489 --> 00:41:39,190
Thank you.

1491
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:41,124
All right then I think we've

1492
00:41:41,124 --> 00:41:41,525
concluded commissioner

1493
00:41:41,525 --> 00:41:42,560
questions.

1494
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,662
So for the record I have to ask

1495
00:41:45,662 --> 00:41:46,363
if there's anyone in the public

1496
00:41:46,363 --> 00:41:48,766
who would like to address the

1497
00:41:48,766 --> 00:41:49,800
commission on this topic.

1498
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,603
>> we have no members of the

1499
00:41:52,603 --> 00:41:53,700
public wishing to provide

1500
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:53,804
public comment.

1501
00:41:53,804 --> 00:41:56,204
>> thank you, MR. Secretary.

1502
00:41:57,141 --> 00:41:58,142
Then we'll close public comment

1503
00:41:58,142 --> 00:42:00,845
and we will move on to

1504
00:42:00,845 --> 00:42:01,311
commissioner comments.

1505
00:42:01,311 --> 00:42:03,311
Let's go.

1506
00:42:04,615 --> 00:42:06,615
Reversal here.

1507
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:09,120
>> how about vice chair patch?

1508
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,553
Thank you for this

1509
00:42:09,553 --> 00:42:09,953
presentation.

1510
00:42:09,953 --> 00:42:11,953
It's great.

1511
00:42:12,623 --> 00:42:13,457
I actually just recently went

1512
00:42:13,457 --> 00:42:16,160
to london and I was going to

1513
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,600
reach out to you because I saw

1514
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:17,728
some cool things around ev

1515
00:42:17,728 --> 00:42:18,228
chargers and then I saw this

1516
00:42:18,228 --> 00:42:20,564
was on the agenda.

1517
00:42:20,564 --> 00:42:23,367
I was like oh I can tweet now.

1518
00:42:23,367 --> 00:42:24,435
So that's kind of cool.

1519
00:42:24,435 --> 00:42:27,204
>> one of the things that I saw

1520
00:42:27,204 --> 00:42:30,804
in london is they have shell

1521
00:42:31,275 --> 00:42:33,675
charging units attached to

1522
00:42:34,946 --> 00:42:35,279
telephone poles and street

1523
00:42:35,279 --> 00:42:37,279
lights.

1524
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:42,550
So the city that like basically

1525
00:42:42,886 --> 00:42:43,587
leases the street lights to

1526
00:42:43,587 --> 00:42:44,255
shell and shell charges but

1527
00:42:44,255 --> 00:42:46,655
like they're responsible for

1528
00:42:46,924 --> 00:42:47,592
the maintenance and stuff and

1529
00:42:47,592 --> 00:42:49,927
so that's why I asked about

1530
00:42:49,927 --> 00:42:50,795
corporate sponsorships.

1531
00:42:50,795 --> 00:42:51,529
I know you're ot looking to

1532
00:42:51,529 --> 00:42:54,265
expand but that might be

1533
00:42:54,265 --> 00:42:54,932
something to start thinking

1534
00:42:54,932 --> 00:42:55,101
about and considering and as

1535
00:42:55,101 --> 00:42:57,101
-

1536
00:42:57,835 --> 00:43:00,835
you're looking for a third

1537
00:43:00,905 --> 00:43:02,140
party vendor I would definitely

1538
00:43:02,140 --> 00:43:05,409
ask them or include in their

1539
00:43:05,409 --> 00:43:07,409
qualification portion what

1540
00:43:09,379 --> 00:43:09,780
their creative solutions are to

1541
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:10,810
this issue.

1542
00:43:10,810 --> 00:43:10,815
Right.

1543
00:43:10,815 --> 00:43:13,718
Because as you said, you know,

1544
00:43:13,718 --> 00:43:16,788
we have 40 ports but we have

1545
00:43:16,788 --> 00:43:17,155
goals of installing a lot more

1546
00:43:17,155 --> 00:43:19,155
than that.

1547
00:43:20,792 --> 00:43:21,459
>> so knowing not just how

1548
00:43:21,459 --> 00:43:24,459
we're maintaining it now but

1549
00:43:24,862 --> 00:43:25,596
how the expansion is going to

1550
00:43:25,596 --> 00:43:28,532
work would be really important.

1551
00:43:28,532 --> 00:43:29,233
I have found as you change

1552
00:43:29,233 --> 00:43:31,902
vendors that that can be

1553
00:43:31,902 --> 00:43:32,871
complicated.

1554
00:43:32,871 --> 00:43:33,538
So if we could find a vendor

1555
00:43:33,538 --> 00:43:35,840
that actually works with the

1556
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,541
growth plan as well as the

1557
00:43:36,541 --> 00:43:39,210
maintenance plan that would be

1558
00:43:39,210 --> 00:43:41,210
really important.

1559
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:43,682
And also on the data front I

1560
00:43:43,682 --> 00:43:47,184
would be really curious if they

1561
00:43:47,184 --> 00:43:47,985
can tell us which of our

1562
00:43:47,985 --> 00:43:50,888
locations are full most of the

1563
00:43:50,888 --> 00:43:51,590
time so that maybe that's an

1564
00:43:51,590 --> 00:43:54,225
indicator that there needs to

1565
00:43:54,225 --> 00:43:57,610
be more chargers there or a

1566
00:43:57,610 --> 00:43:59,461
higher priority on maintaining

1567
00:44:00,698 --> 00:44:01,732
those chargers versus like if

1568
00:44:01,732 --> 00:44:05,932
the other areas are not used as

1569
00:44:08,774 --> 00:44:09,474
much and I as a person who

1570
00:44:09,474 --> 00:44:11,874
lives in multi-family complex

1571
00:44:12,310 --> 00:44:12,977
who cannot install a charger I

1572
00:44:12,977 --> 00:44:15,377
understand the importance of

1573
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:16,447
this publicly available

1574
00:44:16,447 --> 00:44:18,447
chargers.

1575
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:19,985
>> I do think it's reasonable

1576
00:44:19,985 --> 00:44:22,985
to start charging for them

1577
00:44:23,288 --> 00:44:24,222
especially if it's a nominal

1578
00:44:24,222 --> 00:44:27,822
amount that kind of just covers

1579
00:44:28,292 --> 00:44:28,927
the electricity or a portion of

1580
00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:30,927
the maintenance coverage.

1581
00:44:32,530 --> 00:44:33,231
I think that as we move forward

1582
00:44:33,231 --> 00:44:35,733
the communication on that and

1583
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:38,733
why we're charging instead of

1584
00:44:39,304 --> 00:44:40,105
free is going to be make it

1585
00:44:40,105 --> 00:44:40,772
making sure that we communicate

1586
00:44:40,772 --> 00:44:43,410
on that will make sure that

1587
00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:45,441
it's accessible and hopefully

1588
00:44:46,711 --> 00:44:47,279
will address some of the user

1589
00:44:47,279 --> 00:44:49,279
conflict that you're

1590
00:44:50,916 --> 00:44:51,616
experiencing at places that

1591
00:44:51,616 --> 00:44:54,286
shouldn't be charging just for

1592
00:44:54,286 --> 00:44:56,286
charging purposes right?

1593
00:44:58,757 --> 00:45:02,460
I would also look at if the

1594
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:06,600
vendor can have a robust plan

1595
00:45:06,431 --> 00:45:07,990
for replacing the old ones it's

1596
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:09,499
really disappointing to hear

1597
00:45:10,235 --> 00:45:10,568
that they're not module there

1598
00:45:10,568 --> 00:45:11,269
anymore.

1599
00:45:11,269 --> 00:45:14,269
That's just me from a

1600
00:45:14,372 --> 00:45:15,173
sustainability perspective

1601
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:18,173
really irritating to me like

1602
00:45:18,743 --> 00:45:19,445
why are we wasting materials

1603
00:45:19,445 --> 00:45:22,445
instead of just replacing the

1604
00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:23,315
thing that is broken and and

1605
00:45:23,315 --> 00:45:24,150
understand that that comes from

1606
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:26,318
the charger vendor itself and

1607
00:45:26,318 --> 00:45:27,180
not the person or the company

1608
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:30,180
that's going to maintain them

1609
00:45:30,122 --> 00:45:30,755
but if they have those

1610
00:45:30,755 --> 00:45:33,155
relationships or they have

1611
00:45:33,525 --> 00:45:36,495
insights in how we can not have

1612
00:45:36,495 --> 00:45:37,329
to create waste as we're

1613
00:45:37,329 --> 00:45:39,729
replacing old chargers that

1614
00:45:40,865 --> 00:45:43,865
would be great to hear.

1615
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:45,204
And a lot of my comments are

1616
00:45:45,204 --> 00:45:47,973
just about the expansion which

1617
00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:51,573
you're not focusing on but also

1618
00:45:52,177 --> 00:45:52,878
I love that we're doing this so

1619
00:45:52,878 --> 00:45:55,380
I'll probably just send you an

1620
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,980
email about ideas that I have

1621
00:45:59,510 --> 00:46:00,850
for expanding our ev chargers

1622
00:46:00,850 --> 00:46:02,654
in general so that we stay on

1623
00:46:02,654 --> 00:46:04,654
topic here.

1624
00:46:07,426 --> 00:46:08,126
>> >> commissioner guerrero.

1625
00:46:08,126 --> 00:46:08,493
No further comments.

1626
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:09,610
Thank you.

1627
00:46:09,610 --> 00:46:11,300
Was good presentation

1628
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:11,663
commissioner mcmahon.

1629
00:46:11,663 --> 00:46:13,663
>> oh yeah.

1630
00:46:14,366 --> 00:46:15,670
This was a really good

1631
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:15,634
presentation and I really love

1632
00:46:15,634 --> 00:46:17,869
that we're focused on

1633
00:46:17,869 --> 00:46:18,603
sustainability for this and I

1634
00:46:18,603 --> 00:46:19,304
think electric cars are just

1635
00:46:19,304 --> 00:46:22,241
going to continue to get more

1636
00:46:22,241 --> 00:46:23,410
popular, more popular as gas

1637
00:46:23,410 --> 00:46:23,875
prices go up and all this other

1638
00:46:23,875 --> 00:46:26,679
stuff is going on and as the

1639
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:27,346
car prices et as the electric

1640
00:46:27,346 --> 00:46:28,470
car prices get cheaper, more

1641
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:30,282
people are going to be buying

1642
00:46:30,282 --> 00:46:31,283
them.

1643
00:46:31,283 --> 00:46:33,885
So I think it's definitely

1644
00:46:33,885 --> 00:46:34,787
something we should focus on.

1645
00:46:34,787 --> 00:46:37,590
i totally agree and just some

1646
00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:38,223
of the comments and what he

1647
00:46:38,223 --> 00:46:38,924
agenda said that you know,

1648
00:46:38,924 --> 00:46:41,894
having people pay for it will

1649
00:46:41,894 --> 00:46:42,728
make it more sustainable.

1650
00:46:42,728 --> 00:46:45,264
We can keep up these chargers.

1651
00:46:45,264 --> 00:46:45,998
They can have more uptime.

1652
00:46:45,998 --> 00:46:46,665
They can be safer too.

1653
00:46:46,665 --> 00:46:49,650
That's something we actually

1654
00:46:49,135 --> 00:46:50,135
didn't really talk about today.

1655
00:46:50,135 --> 00:46:52,404
But I know like six months ago

1656
00:46:52,404 --> 00:46:53,380
there was a fire in one of the

1657
00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:53,639
garages and you know that

1658
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:56,800
caused a big issue too.

1659
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:56,675
So you know, like having money

1660
00:46:56,675 --> 00:46:59,245
coming in ensures that these

1661
00:46:59,245 --> 00:46:59,845
are all safe and you know,

1662
00:46:59,845 --> 00:47:02,245
protecting the cars and

1663
00:47:03,115 --> 00:47:03,448
protecting the people using the

1664
00:47:03,448 --> 00:47:05,448
garages.

1665
00:47:06,118 --> 00:47:07,152
I would say like we should try

1666
00:47:07,152 --> 00:47:07,953
to gather as much data as we

1667
00:47:07,953 --> 00:47:10,589
can and use the money that we

1668
00:47:10,589 --> 00:47:10,889
do make from this or that

1669
00:47:10,889 --> 00:47:12,889
data.

1670
00:47:13,659 --> 00:47:14,360
And I second what my other

1671
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:14,993
commissioner said in terms of

1672
00:47:14,993 --> 00:47:17,393
communicating that to the

1673
00:47:17,964 --> 00:47:21,433
public in terms of like you

1674
00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:22,301
know, we want to we're charging

1675
00:47:22,301 --> 00:47:23,350
but we're we're going to use

1676
00:47:23,350 --> 00:47:23,369
this money to make the chargers

1677
00:47:23,369 --> 00:47:24,200
better.

1678
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,904
We're going to put them in

1679
00:47:25,904 --> 00:47:26,639
places where people need them

1680
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:27,306
and it's not something that the

1681
00:47:27,306 --> 00:47:29,308
city is trying to make money

1682
00:47:29,308 --> 00:47:32,712
off of and it does seem like

1683
00:47:32,712 --> 00:47:33,446
the most efficient way would to

1684
00:47:33,446 --> 00:47:34,113
be hire hired a private company

1685
00:47:34,113 --> 00:47:36,749
to do this like they're the

1686
00:47:36,749 --> 00:47:37,650
experts at it.

1687
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:39,552
They know what they're doing.

1688
00:47:39,552 --> 00:47:40,185
So that's would be my

1689
00:47:40,185 --> 00:47:42,185
recommendation for that.

1690
00:47:43,489 --> 00:47:46,489
>> so thank you so much.

1691
00:47:46,726 --> 00:47:48,726
Thank you.

1692
00:47:50,797 --> 00:47:51,797
Good presentation.

1693
00:47:51,797 --> 00:47:55,335
Looks like we have pretty good

1694
00:47:55,335 --> 00:47:58,335
growth of ev chargers across

1695
00:47:58,771 --> 00:47:59,439
the city mostly you know the

1696
00:47:59,439 --> 00:48:01,839
commercial chargers see the

1697
00:48:02,575 --> 00:48:03,476
tesla ones popping up a lot.

1698
00:48:03,476 --> 00:48:03,843
So I don't have a lot of

1699
00:48:03,843 --> 00:48:05,843
comments.

1700
00:48:10,783 --> 00:48:11,418
I know we're trying to I know a

1701
00:48:11,418 --> 00:48:14,200
part of doing the free was

1702
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,854
trying to help people who are

1703
00:48:14,854 --> 00:48:15,554
in the lower income brackets as

1704
00:48:15,554 --> 00:48:18,124
another part and I don't know

1705
00:48:18,124 --> 00:48:18,691
if there's a possibility to

1706
00:48:18,691 --> 00:48:21,910
income qualify for ree

1707
00:48:21,761 --> 00:48:24,761
charging while having fees for

1708
00:48:25,932 --> 00:48:26,666
the that you know the more of

1709
00:48:26,666 --> 00:48:29,235
the masses you know I think

1710
00:48:29,235 --> 00:48:29,936
unfortunately the hard thing

1711
00:48:29,936 --> 00:48:33,272
for the people you might want

1712
00:48:33,272 --> 00:48:36,272
to attract with the free

1713
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:37,743
charging the biggest barrier is

1714
00:48:37,743 --> 00:48:38,411
really not the charging fee

1715
00:48:38,411 --> 00:48:40,880
it's the cost of getting the

1716
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,915
the ev itself.

1717
00:48:41,915 --> 00:48:42,716
Those are you know and even to

1718
00:48:42,716 --> 00:48:45,251
get a new gasoline car for

1719
00:48:45,251 --> 00:48:45,551
somebody is expensive these

1720
00:48:45,551 --> 00:48:47,551
days.

1721
00:48:48,154 --> 00:48:52,224
But I think this is great I

1722
00:48:52,224 --> 00:48:53,920
would just offer up we're here

1723
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:53,726
if you're interested when you

1724
00:48:53,726 --> 00:48:53,896
get to the stage of you've

1725
00:48:53,896 --> 00:48:55,595
-

1726
00:48:55,595 --> 00:48:56,229
picked like your top 2 or 3

1727
00:48:56,229 --> 00:48:58,629
vendors and have different

1728
00:48:59,365 --> 00:49:00,200
models.

1729
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,600
I'm sure my fellow

1730
00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:04,971
commissioners would love to

1731
00:49:04,971 --> 00:49:08,341
kind of see the options and

1732
00:49:08,341 --> 00:49:08,909
give input and ask questions

1733
00:49:08,909 --> 00:49:11,309
before you pick that.

1734
00:49:11,677 --> 00:49:12,345
I don't certainly not a

1735
00:49:12,345 --> 00:49:14,781
requirement but it's a we're

1736
00:49:14,781 --> 00:49:17,781
here if you want us.

1737
00:49:19,285 --> 00:49:19,886
So that being said I thought oh

1738
00:49:19,886 --> 00:49:22,286
we have another comment.

1739
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,560
>> vice chair of hatch our

1740
00:49:26,460 --> 00:49:26,860
chair inspired me potential

1741
00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:27,661
lee.

1742
00:49:27,661 --> 00:49:28,295
>> I'd be curious to know if

1743
00:49:28,295 --> 00:49:31,310
there was like a monthly

1744
00:49:31,310 --> 00:49:33,800
program instead of a per usage

1745
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
charge rate like you purchase

1746
00:49:38,172 --> 00:49:39,380
into this number of credits for

1747
00:49:39,380 --> 00:49:39,573
the month and you get to use

1748
00:49:39,573 --> 00:49:41,973
one of the chargers.

1749
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:42,742
I've no idea if that would work

1750
00:49:42,742 --> 00:49:45,345
and that would obviously depend

1751
00:49:45,345 --> 00:49:46,380
on what vendor you go for but

1752
00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:49,683
it might be a way to offset

1753
00:49:49,683 --> 00:49:52,180
some of what my fellow

1754
00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:54,418
commissioner was suggesting on

1755
00:49:56,490 --> 00:49:57,390
lower income individuals.

1756
00:49:57,390 --> 00:49:58,910
So I think the purpose of

1757
00:49:58,910 --> 00:50:00,527
tonight's session was just to

1758
00:50:00,527 --> 00:50:01,561
give feedback.

1759
00:50:01,561 --> 00:50:02,262
>> so I don't think there's any

1760
00:50:02,262 --> 00:50:05,262
motions required for this one.

1761
00:50:05,399 --> 00:50:08,568
So we will close this topic.

1762
00:50:08,568 --> 00:50:08,868
>> you just wanted to hate your

1763
00:50:08,868 --> 00:50:09,703
gavel.

1764
00:50:09,703 --> 00:50:10,571
>> I just wanted to yeah, it's

1765
00:50:10,571 --> 00:50:13,571
you know, it's very satisfying

1766
00:50:15,575 --> 00:50:16,277
and just wait till next year

1767
00:50:16,277 --> 00:50:19,277
you'll get to feel the

1768
00:50:21,415 --> 00:50:22,150
satisfaction action.

1769
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:24,150
>> all right.

1770
00:50:24,183 --> 00:50:27,183
Moving on to our second

1771
00:50:27,421 --> 00:50:29,821
consideration item item b

1772
00:50:30,491 --> 00:50:31,291
update on bike to wherever day

1773
00:50:31,291 --> 00:50:31,992
2026 while the brief update on

1774
00:50:31,992 --> 00:50:34,761
the bike o wherever day events

1775
00:50:34,761 --> 00:50:35,610
at broadway annual nd civic

1776
00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:37,610
park.

1777
00:50:38,431 --> 00:50:38,865
>> so we're ready for staff

1778
00:50:38,865 --> 00:50:40,865
presentation.

1779
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:42,837
Thank you MR. Chair.

1780
00:50:42,837 --> 00:50:43,403
Good evening commissioners.

1781
00:50:43,403 --> 00:50:44,370
My name is henry rude

1782
00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:45,872
transportation planner for

1783
00:50:45,872 --> 00:50:46,874
public works.

1784
00:50:46,874 --> 00:50:47,507
Tonight I'm going to be giving

1785
00:50:47,507 --> 00:50:50,143
you a quick update on the

1786
00:50:50,143 --> 00:50:50,844
activities that the traffic

1787
00:50:50,844 --> 00:50:51,511
engineering division organized

1788
00:50:51,511 --> 00:50:54,815
for bike tour every day that

1789
00:50:54,815 --> 00:50:55,782
was last thursday as part of

1790
00:50:55,782 --> 00:50:58,782
our larger bike month effort

1791
00:50:59,887 --> 00:51:00,887
for 2026.

1792
00:51:00,887 --> 00:51:01,588
>> so to begin with our morning

1793
00:51:01,588 --> 00:51:04,588
location this is the energizer

1794
00:51:04,859 --> 00:51:05,259
station that we've been hosting

1795
00:51:05,259 --> 00:51:07,128
at the city.

1796
00:51:07,128 --> 00:51:07,995
But for the covid interruption

1797
00:51:07,995 --> 00:51:10,931
for about ten years this was

1798
00:51:10,931 --> 00:51:11,865
until last year hosted in front

1799
00:51:11,865 --> 00:51:15,680
of city hall last year and this

1800
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:15,836
year we moved it to broadway in

1801
00:51:15,836 --> 00:51:16,337
newark at the crossing of the

1802
00:51:16,337 --> 00:51:18,337
iron horse trail.

1803
00:51:18,805 --> 00:51:19,473
This is an area where we have a

1804
00:51:19,473 --> 00:51:21,473
larger roadway improvements

1805
00:51:22,844 --> 00:51:23,544
project underway so this is

1806
00:51:23,544 --> 00:51:26,214
also a chance to do outreach

1807
00:51:26,214 --> 00:51:26,914
with people directly on site

1808
00:51:26,914 --> 00:51:27,615
and additionally just being

1809
00:51:27,615 --> 00:51:30,150
closer to the trail is a much

1810
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:30,851
better way to get cyclists on

1811
00:51:30,851 --> 00:51:33,851
their way to different places.

1812
00:51:33,954 --> 00:51:34,688
So like last year we had

1813
00:51:34,688 --> 00:51:37,880
significantly higher numbers of

1814
00:51:37,992 --> 00:51:38,425
cyclists come by than the city

1815
00:51:38,425 --> 00:51:40,425
hall location.

1816
00:51:40,561 --> 00:51:43,664
We had to about 200 this year.

1817
00:51:43,664 --> 00:51:44,465
There were some concerns about

1818
00:51:44,465 --> 00:51:45,166
rdundancy with the bike walk

1819
00:51:45,166 --> 00:51:47,835
walnut creek location also on

1820
00:51:47,835 --> 00:51:48,502
the trail pretty close by but

1821
00:51:48,502 --> 00:51:48,836
there didn't seem to be any

1822
00:51:48,836 --> 00:51:50,836
issues.

1823
00:51:50,904 --> 00:51:51,939
Many cyclists are happy to

1824
00:51:51,939 --> 00:51:55,420
visit many or even all of the

1825
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:55,710
energizer stations and you

1826
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:58,710
know, we all offer slightly

1827
00:51:59,146 --> 00:51:59,613
different things so it worked

1828
00:51:59,613 --> 00:52:00,347
out pretty well.

1829
00:52:00,347 --> 00:52:03,484
It also that morning allowed us

1830
00:52:03,484 --> 00:52:04,185
to advertise as our evening

1831
00:52:04,185 --> 00:52:07,185
afternoon event in civic park

1832
00:52:07,689 --> 00:52:08,322
which is what most of this

1833
00:52:08,322 --> 00:52:10,722
presentation will be about

1834
00:52:10,724 --> 00:52:11,926
because it was a big change.

1835
00:52:11,926 --> 00:52:15,228
So you an see here a picture

1836
00:52:15,228 --> 00:52:18,228
it's called the bike rodeo.

1837
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:19,700
So this is a almost like a

1838
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:22,100
festival in civic park.

1839
00:52:22,403 --> 00:52:23,137
So compared to the morning

1840
00:52:23,137 --> 00:52:23,771
energizer station which is just

1841
00:52:23,771 --> 00:52:25,771
sustainability and traffic

1842
00:52:26,307 --> 00:52:26,707
engineering hosting like one

1843
00:52:26,707 --> 00:52:28,707
table each.

1844
00:52:29,843 --> 00:52:30,244
This was a much, much larger

1845
00:52:30,244 --> 00:52:30,944
undertaking.

1846
00:52:30,944 --> 00:52:31,278
We had partnerships with local

1847
00:52:31,278 --> 00:52:33,278
vendors.

1848
00:52:34,281 --> 00:52:34,682
We had an obstacle course for

1849
00:52:34,682 --> 00:52:35,383
cyclists.

1850
00:52:35,383 --> 00:52:37,585
We had information booths for

1851
00:52:37,585 --> 00:52:38,385
many more city departments and

1852
00:52:38,385 --> 00:52:40,385
some local organizations.

1853
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:42,990
So just to give you a sense of

1854
00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:43,290
the scale, this is a map of the

1855
00:52:43,290 --> 00:52:44,580
event.

1856
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:46,327
If you know the civic park

1857
00:52:46,327 --> 00:52:47,128
layout, that bottom left corner

1858
00:52:47,128 --> 00:52:49,397
is the bridge into the parking

1859
00:52:49,397 --> 00:52:50,431
lot.

1860
00:52:50,431 --> 00:52:51,232
So you can see we had many

1861
00:52:51,232 --> 00:52:53,801
booths in that kind of cul de

1862
00:52:53,801 --> 00:52:54,168
sac central area stretching up

1863
00:52:54,168 --> 00:52:54,835
the path.

1864
00:52:54,835 --> 00:52:57,835
And then the larger obstacle

1865
00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:00,875
course by carmel drive.

1866
00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:01,543
So there's a picture of the

1867
00:53:01,543 --> 00:53:04,245
obstacle course you can see

1868
00:53:04,245 --> 00:53:04,913
there it's a chance for kids to

1869
00:53:04,913 --> 00:53:05,413
kind of practice biking in a

1870
00:53:05,413 --> 00:53:07,413
safe environment.

1871
00:53:07,849 --> 00:53:08,516
They can learn about safety

1872
00:53:08,516 --> 00:53:10,916
practices and improve their

1873
00:53:11,953 --> 00:53:12,654
maneuvering just kind of get

1874
00:53:12,654 --> 00:53:13,354
generally more comfortable on

1875
00:53:13,354 --> 00:53:16,124
the seat of their bike driving

1876
00:53:16,124 --> 00:53:19,494
on the road, biking on the road

1877
00:53:19,494 --> 00:53:20,161
and you know, if they can

1878
00:53:20,161 --> 00:53:20,828
complete the obstacle course

1879
00:53:20,828 --> 00:53:22,831
they can feel more confident

1880
00:53:22,831 --> 00:53:23,598
about themselves and be better

1881
00:53:23,598 --> 00:53:25,998
prepared to handle different

1882
00:53:26,401 --> 00:53:28,401
aspects of cycling.

1883
00:53:30,305 --> 00:53:30,905
>> so this as what your extra

1884
00:53:30,905 --> 00:53:32,905
special attachment was?

1885
00:53:33,975 --> 00:53:34,609
Our pedal passport the traffic

1886
00:53:34,609 --> 00:53:36,609
engineering booth provided

1887
00:53:37,945 --> 00:53:40,848
these to anyone who wanted one.

1888
00:53:40,848 --> 00:53:41,683
The idea is hat each page has

1889
00:53:41,683 --> 00:53:42,284
a place where you can get

1890
00:53:42,284 --> 00:53:44,786
stamped by ne of the

1891
00:53:44,786 --> 00:53:45,920
information booths.

1892
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,322
So if you go around and visit

1893
00:53:48,322 --> 00:53:49,524
everything at the festival you

1894
00:53:49,524 --> 00:53:52,727
can come back and get a $5 gift

1895
00:53:52,727 --> 00:53:55,930
card which is not a huge prize

1896
00:53:55,930 --> 00:53:56,832
but if you're a young child $5

1897
00:53:56,832 --> 00:54:00,168
at target goes a long way.

1898
00:54:00,168 --> 00:54:03,905
And we did have great uptick on

1899
00:54:03,905 --> 00:54:06,905
this target donated us $250 so

1900
00:54:07,676 --> 00:54:09,578
$55 gift cards and we use them

1901
00:54:09,578 --> 00:54:10,378
all and in fact we had one

1902
00:54:10,378 --> 00:54:11,790
unfortunately one additional

1903
00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:14,150
person who came after we'd run

1904
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:14,683
out but they were very

1905
00:54:14,683 --> 00:54:17,830
understanding luckily and we

1906
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,387
also had a polaroid camera so

1907
00:54:19,387 --> 00:54:22,524
you'd see on that first page of

1908
00:54:22,524 --> 00:54:23,258
the passport there's a spot for

1909
00:54:23,258 --> 00:54:23,925
a photo so people could

1910
00:54:23,925 --> 00:54:26,161
directly staple those on and

1911
00:54:26,161 --> 00:54:26,762
kind of make it more like a

1912
00:54:26,762 --> 00:54:27,129
real passport, a little

1913
00:54:27,129 --> 00:54:27,829
souvenir.

1914
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:29,864
The parents definitely seemed

1915
00:54:29,864 --> 00:54:30,899
to love it.

1916
00:54:30,899 --> 00:54:31,566
A lot of the kids were excited

1917
00:54:31,566 --> 00:54:33,968
to get their picture taken.

1918
00:54:33,968 --> 00:54:34,669
You can see in the back of that

1919
00:54:34,669 --> 00:54:35,337
photo there there's kind of a

1920
00:54:35,337 --> 00:54:37,505
billowing like yellow orange

1921
00:54:37,505 --> 00:54:38,439
curtain.

1922
00:54:38,439 --> 00:54:39,107
That was a little photo booth

1923
00:54:39,107 --> 00:54:41,643
that we had if you wanted to

1924
00:54:41,643 --> 00:54:42,344
really do it p properly, a lot

1925
00:54:42,344 --> 00:54:43,110
of people just wanted a photo

1926
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:43,344
right with their bike at the

1927
00:54:43,344 --> 00:54:44,812
station.

1928
00:54:44,812 --> 00:54:47,812
But I'd say about half

1929
00:54:48,383 --> 00:54:51,383
appreciated the photo booth so

1930
00:54:51,686 --> 00:54:52,387
newly this year we had a much

1931
00:54:52,387 --> 00:54:53,121
larger collaboration with the

1932
00:54:53,121 --> 00:54:55,990
kind of outside agencies and

1933
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:56,892
vendors.

1934
00:54:56,892 --> 00:54:57,459
So in addition to the city

1935
00:54:57,459 --> 00:54:59,459
staff departments and

1936
00:55:00,295 --> 00:55:00,962
sustainability who was right

1937
00:55:00,962 --> 00:55:03,962
here police clean water arts

1938
00:55:04,299 --> 00:55:04,966
and recreation, open space and

1939
00:55:04,966 --> 00:55:05,500
of course public works with

1940
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,500
traffic engineering.

1941
00:55:08,336 --> 00:55:09,380
We also had a booth for bike

1942
00:55:09,380 --> 00:55:11,640
walk walnut creek which is a

1943
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,341
local kind of pedestrian

1944
00:55:12,341 --> 00:55:14,341
bicycle advocacy organization.

1945
00:55:15,811 --> 00:55:19,470
we also had vendors show up.

1946
00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:19,681
This was soul house matcha in

1947
00:55:19,681 --> 00:55:22,810
their debut appearance jp

1948
00:55:22,951 --> 00:55:23,284
design jewelry, chick-fil-a and

1949
00:55:23,284 --> 00:55:23,886
target.

1950
00:55:23,886 --> 00:55:26,886
Some of these were doing

1951
00:55:26,956 --> 00:55:27,756
giveaways and donations.

1952
00:55:27,756 --> 00:55:28,424
Others were selling but they

1953
00:55:28,424 --> 00:55:30,459
definitely helped add to the

1954
00:55:30,459 --> 00:55:31,259
atmosphere and provide more

1955
00:55:31,259 --> 00:55:33,659
activities and options for

1956
00:55:34,263 --> 00:55:35,164
people who were attending.

1957
00:55:35,164 --> 00:55:38,164
>> so overall this event was

1958
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,702
definitely a huge success.

1959
00:55:39,702 --> 00:55:40,402
I think we brought a lot of joy

1960
00:55:40,402 --> 00:55:42,771
to a lot of kids and families

1961
00:55:42,771 --> 00:55:43,471
we helped you know, dispense a

1962
00:55:43,471 --> 00:55:46,471
lot of great information about

1963
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:47,509
biking, walking sustainably in

1964
00:55:47,509 --> 00:55:48,210
walnut creek.

1965
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:50,312
There are some lessons learned

1966
00:55:50,312 --> 00:55:51,213
that we would want to take

1967
00:55:51,213 --> 00:55:51,580
forward if e were going to do

1968
00:55:51,580 --> 00:55:53,580
it again.

1969
00:55:54,383 --> 00:55:54,783
The children were younger than

1970
00:55:54,783 --> 00:55:56,783
we expected.

1971
00:55:57,253 --> 00:55:57,953
It was mostly around 4 to 8

1972
00:55:57,953 --> 00:56:00,953
years old with their parents.

1973
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:01,757
Most e-bike and bicycle safety

1974
00:56:01,757 --> 00:56:04,157
advocacy is typically targeted

1975
00:56:05,610 --> 00:56:05,761
more at like kind of 12 to 18

1976
00:56:05,761 --> 00:56:08,563
like tweens and teenagers who

1977
00:56:08,563 --> 00:56:09,398
are out biking on their own who

1978
00:56:09,398 --> 00:56:12,501
might be riding e-bikes in a

1979
00:56:12,501 --> 00:56:13,168
kind of unsafe speed or fashion

1980
00:56:13,168 --> 00:56:13,535
so that they can learn best

1981
00:56:13,535 --> 00:56:15,535
practices.

1982
00:56:16,839 --> 00:56:17,539
So that had kind of been what

1983
00:56:17,539 --> 00:56:18,841
we'd expecting which is why we

1984
00:56:18,841 --> 00:56:19,208
opened at 3:00 after school

1985
00:56:19,208 --> 00:56:19,372
gets out.

1986
00:56:19,372 --> 00:56:19,741
-

1987
00:56:19,741 --> 00:56:20,376
but we saw that it was

1988
00:56:20,376 --> 00:56:22,776
definitely a much younger

1989
00:56:23,379 --> 00:56:24,460
demographic who are kind of

1990
00:56:24,460 --> 00:56:24,646
just learning the basics of

1991
00:56:24,646 --> 00:56:26,646
cycling, doing practice

1992
00:56:27,149 --> 00:56:29,549
sometimes with training wheels.

1993
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,288
And that also meant that they

1994
00:56:33,288 --> 00:56:34,220
the spike in attendance was

1995
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:34,723
after 5:00 when their parents

1996
00:56:34,723 --> 00:56:36,992
could take them directly after

1997
00:56:36,992 --> 00:56:37,893
work.

1998
00:56:37,893 --> 00:56:40,429
We also learned that rodeo is

1999
00:56:40,429 --> 00:56:40,729
not a great fit for walnut

2000
00:56:40,729 --> 00:56:41,530
creek.

2001
00:56:41,530 --> 00:56:44,133
People thought it was some kind

2002
00:56:44,133 --> 00:56:45,670
of a hoedown or something.

2003
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,836
It's it's not really the kind

2004
00:56:47,836 --> 00:56:49,710
of place we are.

2005
00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:49,772
So if we were going to o it

2006
00:56:49,772 --> 00:56:52,700
again we would probably choose

2007
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:55,411
a name that's a little bit less

2008
00:56:55,411 --> 00:56:56,212
home on the range.

2009
00:56:56,212 --> 00:56:56,379
We would also probably want to

2010
00:56:56,379 --> 00:56:56,679
-

2011
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,679
increase staffing.

2012
00:56:59,548 --> 00:57:00,249
We had enough to make it work

2013
00:57:00,249 --> 00:57:00,949
but it was more strained than

2014
00:57:00,949 --> 00:57:03,352
we typically like to plan for.

2015
00:57:03,352 --> 00:57:04,530
That's just something where you

2016
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:04,453
have to kind of do it and see

2017
00:57:04,453 --> 00:57:06,453
how it goes.

2018
00:57:07,289 --> 00:57:07,890
So now we know we could also

2019
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:09,890
revise certain passport

2020
00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:10,726
exercises like the mad libs

2021
00:57:10,726 --> 00:57:11,460
one.

2022
00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:14,197
We had our traffic engineering

2023
00:57:14,197 --> 00:57:14,998
booth supervising and stamping

2024
00:57:14,998 --> 00:57:15,665
that and managing handing out

2025
00:57:15,665 --> 00:57:18,650
the passports and redeeming

2026
00:57:18,801 --> 00:57:19,502
them and it could lead to lead

2027
00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:22,304
to some, you know, holdups and

2028
00:57:22,304 --> 00:57:25,904
delays and we would also have

2029
00:57:26,209 --> 00:57:26,943
more trash facilities nd staff

2030
00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:29,545
also just something you kind of

2031
00:57:29,545 --> 00:57:29,812
have to try and see how it goes

2032
00:57:29,812 --> 00:57:30,647
.

2033
00:57:30,647 --> 00:57:33,647
We are considering also adding

2034
00:57:33,983 --> 00:57:34,583
something to the passport about

2035
00:57:34,583 --> 00:57:35,284
trash pickup so that the

2036
00:57:35,284 --> 00:57:37,920
attendees have an incentive to

2037
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,821
participate and help out.

2038
00:57:38,821 --> 00:57:39,421
>> especially for kids it's a

2039
00:57:39,421 --> 00:57:41,357
great way to teach them

2040
00:57:41,357 --> 00:57:42,424
sustainable practices.

2041
00:57:42,424 --> 00:57:45,861
>> o I just want to give a

2042
00:57:45,861 --> 00:57:46,529
special thanks to a lot of the

2043
00:57:46,529 --> 00:57:46,796
organizations that helped us

2044
00:57:46,796 --> 00:57:47,396
out.

2045
00:57:47,396 --> 00:57:49,396
street sweeping parking

2046
00:57:49,732 --> 00:57:50,400
enforcement and traffic

2047
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,100
maintenance were crucial to

2048
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:54,300
clearing out the area, making

2049
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:54,837
sure that everything was clean

2050
00:57:54,837 --> 00:57:55,104
and ready to go helping us set

2051
00:57:55,104 --> 00:57:57,390
up.

2052
00:57:57,390 --> 00:57:57,740
Really coffee donated us a

2053
00:57:57,740 --> 00:57:58,408
giant pitcher of cold brew.

2054
00:57:58,408 --> 00:57:59,750
So even though they weren't

2055
00:57:59,750 --> 00:58:01,475
attending their presence was

2056
00:58:01,711 --> 00:58:02,512
definitely felt.

2057
00:58:02,512 --> 00:58:05,512
Sports basement and bike link

2058
00:58:05,782 --> 00:58:06,482
help provided coupons or gift

2059
00:58:06,482 --> 00:58:09,180
cards that we were allowed to

2060
00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:09,719
distribute on their behalf and

2061
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:10,386
target supplied of course the

2062
00:58:10,386 --> 00:58:12,956
prize for the pedal passport

2063
00:58:12,956 --> 00:58:14,900
which was huge.

2064
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:14,724
We also had a lot of other city

2065
00:58:14,724 --> 00:58:16,893
staff who weren't from the

2066
00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:17,627
specific departments listed who

2067
00:58:17,627 --> 00:58:20,397
volunteered their time to help

2068
00:58:20,397 --> 00:58:21,431
us with setup and tear down and

2069
00:58:21,431 --> 00:58:23,299
we I just wanted to show this

2070
00:58:23,299 --> 00:58:26,899
picture here of a thank you

2071
00:58:27,269 --> 00:58:28,404
from one of the attendees.

2072
00:58:28,404 --> 00:58:31,641
>> so with hat in mind I will

2073
00:58:31,641 --> 00:58:32,475
open it up to you.

2074
00:58:32,475 --> 00:58:33,209
We would love to hear your

2075
00:58:33,209 --> 00:58:34,710
thoughts and insights about how

2076
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:35,111
we can make bike month 2027

2077
00:58:35,111 --> 00:58:35,779
even better.

2078
00:58:35,779 --> 00:58:38,548
Is there anything else you'd

2079
00:58:38,548 --> 00:58:39,248
like to see at the rodeo which

2080
00:58:39,248 --> 00:58:42,248
would probably be under a

2081
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:43,520
different name if it happens?

2082
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,889
And how would you feel about

2083
00:58:45,889 --> 00:58:46,623
staff focusing our time and

2084
00:58:46,623 --> 00:58:48,991
resources more on this event

2085
00:58:48,991 --> 00:58:49,459
and potentially suspending the

2086
00:58:49,459 --> 00:58:51,459
morning station?

2087
00:58:52,862 --> 00:58:53,697
Thank you.

2088
00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,565
>> all right, commissioner,

2089
00:58:55,565 --> 00:58:57,965
question is how about

2090
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:01,370
commissioner mcmahon?

2091
00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:03,239
Yeah, this is an awesome event.

2092
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:03,906
I went to one of the tations

2093
00:59:03,906 --> 00:59:06,542
and it was great just being

2094
00:59:06,542 --> 00:59:07,544
there.

2095
00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:08,178
one of my favorite parts of it

2096
00:59:08,178 --> 00:59:10,580
is the bike to work bags.

2097
00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:11,248
We always try to get a few

2098
00:59:11,248 --> 00:59:14,517
every single year so I would

2099
00:59:14,517 --> 00:59:15,318
say get as many as possible and

2100
00:59:15,318 --> 00:59:18,655
then I don't know can you guys

2101
00:59:18,655 --> 00:59:19,389
sell them as well because we

2102
00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:20,560
would like to buy them honestly

2103
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:20,356
because we use them all the

2104
00:59:20,356 --> 00:59:22,356
time.

2105
00:59:22,759 --> 00:59:23,359
We lose them all the time and I

2106
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:23,726
just I want as many as

2107
00:59:23,726 --> 00:59:25,726
possible.

2108
00:59:26,396 --> 00:59:27,960
>> so so a little info about

2109
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,990
that the bike to work day

2110
00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:32,769
branded merch is supplied to us

2111
00:59:32,769 --> 00:59:33,303
by an organization called five

2112
00:59:33,303 --> 00:59:35,703
on one contra costa.

2113
00:59:35,872 --> 00:59:36,640
They provide it to everyone

2114
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,400
hosting an energizer station.

2115
00:59:39,576 --> 00:59:40,410
It's a fixed amount which is

2116
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:41,211
why we always run out of bags

2117
00:59:41,211 --> 00:59:44,810
so fast so we're not really

2118
00:59:44,810 --> 00:59:44,748
allowed to sell them either.

2119
00:59:44,748 --> 00:59:45,482
It's kind of part of the

2120
00:59:45,482 --> 00:59:47,851
partnership we agree to host an

2121
00:59:47,851 --> 00:59:48,518
energizer station, be part of

2122
00:59:48,518 --> 00:59:51,221
their network and in return

2123
00:59:51,221 --> 00:59:52,220
they help us with some supplies

2124
00:59:52,220 --> 00:59:52,389
including the bags also like

2125
00:59:52,389 --> 00:59:54,389
chapstick.

2126
00:59:54,925 --> 00:59:55,659
So they give us some money to

2127
00:59:55,659 --> 00:59:55,992
buy snacks and some other

2128
00:59:55,992 --> 00:59:57,992
things.

2129
00:59:59,262 --> 00:59:59,929
So we were this year because we

2130
00:59:59,929 --> 01:00:00,631
had the morning event in the

2131
01:00:00,631 --> 01:00:03,166
evening event we were able to

2132
01:00:03,166 --> 01:00:03,834
double dip so we got twice as

2133
01:00:03,834 --> 01:00:06,669
much stuff to host twice as

2134
01:00:06,669 --> 01:00:07,771
many events but e can't really

2135
01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:10,907
scale up and get more bags on

2136
01:00:10,907 --> 01:00:11,541
our own outside of that much as

2137
01:00:11,541 --> 01:00:12,209
we'd like to because we do

2138
01:00:12,209 --> 01:00:14,144
always run out really fast.

2139
01:00:14,144 --> 01:00:14,745
People love the bags they're

2140
01:00:14,745 --> 01:00:15,179
the best.

2141
01:00:15,179 --> 01:00:17,179
We love them.

2142
01:00:17,748 --> 01:00:18,748
Yeah I definitely agree with

2143
01:00:18,748 --> 01:00:19,483
the change in the name from

2144
01:00:19,483 --> 01:00:22,185
rodeo because I was confused as

2145
01:00:22,185 --> 01:00:22,819
well as a bike rider I'm like

2146
01:00:22,819 --> 01:00:23,620
what's going on with this?

2147
01:00:23,620 --> 01:00:26,690
But yeah I love all the

2148
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:27,424
pictures and seems like a great

2149
01:00:27,424 --> 01:00:29,492
event and it seems like you did

2150
01:00:29,492 --> 01:00:30,427
a great job.

2151
01:00:30,427 --> 01:00:33,430
I'd love to be considered and

2152
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:34,364
helping out with the event so

2153
01:00:34,364 --> 01:00:35,980
if you guys need more people

2154
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:37,400
definitely reach out and let me

2155
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:37,768
know and I'd love to be there

2156
01:00:37,768 --> 01:00:38,201
next year.

2157
01:00:38,201 --> 01:00:38,569
That's great.

2158
01:00:38,569 --> 01:00:40,337
Thank you.

2159
01:00:40,337 --> 01:00:41,138
Yeah, thank you.

2160
01:00:41,138 --> 01:00:43,538
We have a volunteer

2161
01:00:44,208 --> 01:00:45,750
commissioner guerrero.

2162
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:47,878
I'll throw my name in to

2163
01:00:47,878 --> 01:00:48,545
volunteer also I would love to

2164
01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:51,545
help out talking about those

2165
01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:52,483
those bags.

2166
01:00:52,483 --> 01:00:53,183
Maybe we can find another

2167
01:00:53,183 --> 01:00:55,318
vendor who can make something

2168
01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:55,986
like it and maybe we could turn

2169
01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:56,654
it into a prize for

2170
01:00:56,654 --> 01:00:58,654
sustainability games talked

2171
01:00:59,623 --> 01:01:02,623
about trash teaching kids I've

2172
01:01:02,826 --> 01:01:03,727
seen that before where you know

2173
01:01:03,727 --> 01:01:04,270
they have a certain amount of

2174
01:01:04,270 --> 01:01:04,728
trash.

2175
01:01:04,728 --> 01:01:07,398
It's not dirty but they get to

2176
01:01:07,398 --> 01:01:08,310
figure out where goes as far as

2177
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:08,666
recycling and stuff goes.

2178
01:01:08,666 --> 01:01:11,334
And then you talked about

2179
01:01:11,334 --> 01:01:14,704
having older the use so I know

2180
01:01:14,704 --> 01:01:15,505
tomorrow northgate has their

2181
01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:18,309
bike to school day I don't know

2182
01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:21,309
if that's something not just

2183
01:01:22,413 --> 01:01:23,414
them but maybe you coordinated

2184
01:01:23,414 --> 01:01:24,470
with having it on the same day

2185
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:26,830
one of the high schools or

2186
01:01:26,830 --> 01:01:26,951
middle schools you know are

2187
01:01:26,951 --> 01:01:27,685
biking to school to school day

2188
01:01:27,685 --> 01:01:30,321
maybe in the afternoon they can

2189
01:01:30,321 --> 01:01:30,921
come by after school and they

2190
01:01:30,921 --> 01:01:31,489
can participate are just

2191
01:01:31,489 --> 01:01:33,889
throwing it out there.

2192
01:01:34,258 --> 01:01:34,958
>> yeah, it's something we can

2193
01:01:34,958 --> 01:01:35,560
look into and definitely doing

2194
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,495
direct outreach with the

2195
01:01:37,495 --> 01:01:38,129
schools is a good way to get

2196
01:01:38,129 --> 01:01:38,695
more students to come

2197
01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:39,364
especially those older

2198
01:01:39,364 --> 01:01:41,764
demographics whether or not

2199
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:43,233
it's on the same bike to school

2200
01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:43,967
day that they have.

2201
01:01:43,967 --> 01:01:44,869
>> yeah but no I think it's

2202
01:01:44,869 --> 01:01:46,869
great.

2203
01:01:48,506 --> 01:01:51,506
Vice chair patch all right.

2204
01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:52,576
I have a couple questions and

2205
01:01:52,576 --> 01:01:55,576
with the morning station versus

2206
01:01:56,514 --> 01:01:59,583
this did you see more of those

2207
01:01:59,583 --> 01:02:00,317
older high school age students

2208
01:02:00,317 --> 01:02:00,751
at the morning station that was

2209
01:02:00,751 --> 01:02:02,751
on the trail?

2210
01:02:03,721 --> 01:02:04,121
We did because los lomas is

2211
01:02:04,121 --> 01:02:06,121
down there.

2212
01:02:06,824 --> 01:02:07,558
A lot of them were in too much

2213
01:02:07,558 --> 01:02:08,292
of a hurry.

2214
01:02:08,292 --> 01:02:08,692
They didn't even want to grab a

2215
01:02:08,692 --> 01:02:10,528
free banana.

2216
01:02:10,528 --> 01:02:11,429
They kind of just ignored us.

2217
01:02:11,429 --> 01:02:12,363
Some of them did stop but it

2218
01:02:12,363 --> 01:02:15,399
was a lot f kind of older

2219
01:02:15,399 --> 01:02:16,000
groups including some of the

2220
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,567
like families with young

2221
01:02:16,567 --> 01:02:18,669
children who we got to

2222
01:02:18,669 --> 01:02:19,403
advertise the evening event to.

2223
01:02:19,403 --> 01:02:19,770
There was still probably more

2224
01:02:19,770 --> 01:02:21,770
of those.

2225
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:23,708
Yeah, like you know, 10 to 16

2226
01:02:23,708 --> 01:02:27,178
kids in the morning, you know,

2227
01:02:27,178 --> 01:02:29,847
even if a lot of them ignored

2228
01:02:29,847 --> 01:02:30,681
us a lot of them didn't so you

2229
01:02:30,681 --> 01:02:31,348
know we did mention the evening

2230
01:02:31,348 --> 01:02:34,718
event to them where we could

2231
01:02:34,718 --> 01:02:35,530
but it seems like they were not

2232
01:02:35,530 --> 01:02:35,753
enticed.

2233
01:02:35,753 --> 01:02:38,489
>> and do you feel like it was

2234
01:02:38,489 --> 01:02:41,693
about the same level as last

2235
01:02:41,693 --> 01:02:42,930
year at that station as your it

2236
01:02:42,930 --> 01:02:43,940
was similar.

2237
01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:45,262
It was a little less last year

2238
01:02:45,262 --> 01:02:45,996
we had 219 and this ear it was

2239
01:02:45,996 --> 01:02:48,396
200 but still pretty comparable

2240
01:02:48,966 --> 01:02:49,500
and our old city hall stations

2241
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:50,234
would get like 100.

2242
01:02:50,234 --> 01:02:52,637
>> so it's way better than that

2243
01:02:52,637 --> 01:02:54,637
great, great.

2244
01:02:56,307 --> 01:02:57,108
>> and and how did you decide

2245
01:02:57,108 --> 01:03:00,611
to have the evening event at

2246
01:03:00,611 --> 01:03:00,978
civic park instead of any other

2247
01:03:00,978 --> 01:03:02,978
location?

2248
01:03:03,914 --> 01:03:04,616
>> civic park it's city owned

2249
01:03:04,616 --> 01:03:07,552
so we have the latitude to do

2250
01:03:07,552 --> 01:03:08,320
things like clear out the

2251
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,855
parking lot for the obstacle

2252
01:03:10,855 --> 01:03:11,722
course, you know, clear out the

2253
01:03:11,722 --> 01:03:15,260
area host all the vendors get

2254
01:03:15,260 --> 01:03:16,600
the setup going earlier we

2255
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:16,694
wanted something that was close

2256
01:03:16,694 --> 01:03:19,531
at hand because all of our

2257
01:03:19,531 --> 01:03:20,431
staff that is helping out

2258
01:03:20,431 --> 01:03:21,132
needed to be able to get their

2259
01:03:21,132 --> 01:03:23,602
materials over there and back

2260
01:03:23,602 --> 01:03:26,602
in a reasonable time frame.

2261
01:03:26,972 --> 01:03:27,773
We had we used like city

2262
01:03:27,773 --> 01:03:30,575
vehicles like cool cars to help

2263
01:03:30,575 --> 01:03:31,476
transport everything but giving

2264
01:03:31,476 --> 01:03:32,143
people the option to just walk

2265
01:03:32,143 --> 01:03:33,110
back to city hall or like at

2266
01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:35,146
the end of the day to walk to

2267
01:03:35,146 --> 01:03:35,813
bart or whatever it makes it

2268
01:03:35,813 --> 01:03:38,830
much easier for not only our

2269
01:03:38,830 --> 01:03:38,883
dedicated staff but also the

2270
01:03:38,883 --> 01:03:39,684
people volunteering their time

2271
01:03:39,684 --> 01:03:42,487
and it's I don't think we had

2272
01:03:42,487 --> 01:03:43,121
any issues with the venue this

2273
01:03:43,121 --> 01:03:45,924
year really it served our

2274
01:03:45,924 --> 01:03:46,324
purposes very well.

2275
01:03:46,324 --> 01:03:48,324
Great.

2276
01:03:49,327 --> 01:03:50,328
That's awesome to hear and then

2277
01:03:50,328 --> 01:03:54,132
did a few meetings ago we had a

2278
01:03:54,132 --> 01:03:54,599
great presentation on on the

2279
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:56,599
bike to school.

2280
01:03:57,869 --> 01:03:58,536
It has a special name is that

2281
01:03:58,536 --> 01:03:58,970
what it's called a walk and

2282
01:03:58,970 --> 01:03:59,337
roll program.

2283
01:03:59,337 --> 01:04:01,206
Thank you.

2284
01:04:01,206 --> 01:04:02,407
The walk and roll program did

2285
01:04:02,407 --> 01:04:04,876
you reach out to them about any

2286
01:04:04,876 --> 01:04:06,876
collaboration?

2287
01:04:08,881 --> 01:04:09,747
So the walk and roll program is

2288
01:04:09,747 --> 01:04:12,284
also undertaken by five and one

2289
01:04:12,284 --> 01:04:13,117
contra costa who's the bike

2290
01:04:13,117 --> 01:04:13,785
tour everyday organization.

2291
01:04:13,785 --> 01:04:16,185
>> so we were collaborating

2292
01:04:16,421 --> 01:04:17,355
with them very closely.

2293
01:04:17,355 --> 01:04:19,824
>> you could mention that chiro

2294
01:04:19,824 --> 01:04:20,225
had our station up in the

2295
01:04:20,225 --> 01:04:20,558
trail.

2296
01:04:20,558 --> 01:04:21,193
>> yes.

2297
01:04:21,193 --> 01:04:23,161
Yeah they had a station

2298
01:04:23,161 --> 01:04:24,960
dedicated to that further up on

2299
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:24,997
the iron horse trail as well.

2300
01:04:24,997 --> 01:04:27,832
>> yeah I figured they had an

2301
01:04:27,832 --> 01:04:28,500
energizer station wasn't sure

2302
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:31,570
about yeah the evening of it

2303
01:04:31,570 --> 01:04:32,270
and they were the ones who use

2304
01:04:32,270 --> 01:04:33,172
the bike blenders which is why

2305
01:04:33,172 --> 01:04:34,839
we are not allowed to bar them

2306
01:04:34,839 --> 01:04:35,741
there.

2307
01:04:35,741 --> 01:04:36,108
>> okay, that's t for my

2308
01:04:36,108 --> 01:04:38,108
questions.

2309
01:04:38,977 --> 01:04:40,977
Great.

2310
01:04:43,649 --> 01:04:44,249
What now when you had the

2311
01:04:44,249 --> 01:04:46,952
people showing up at the

2312
01:04:46,952 --> 01:04:47,419
station I'm running station the

2313
01:04:47,419 --> 01:04:49,419
morning station.

2314
01:04:49,655 --> 01:04:49,955
We're gathering feedback from

2315
01:04:49,955 --> 01:04:50,689
them.

2316
01:04:50,689 --> 01:04:53,890
Right or we're getting

2317
01:04:53,625 --> 01:04:54,326
questions were there any

2318
01:04:54,326 --> 01:04:56,726
thematic questions or comments

2319
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:58,130
from the 200 folks?

2320
01:04:58,130 --> 01:05:00,399
You know that trail crossing is

2321
01:05:00,399 --> 01:05:01,466
pretty hairy.

2322
01:05:01,466 --> 01:05:04,436
It's got a very long signals

2323
01:05:04,436 --> 01:05:07,873
across a very wide you know,

2324
01:05:07,873 --> 01:05:08,773
stretches of roadway.

2325
01:05:08,773 --> 01:05:09,441
So people are generally pretty

2326
01:05:09,441 --> 01:05:11,644
excited about the thought of

2327
01:05:11,644 --> 01:05:12,444
having a diagonal crossing

2328
01:05:12,444 --> 01:05:13,450
about how many general

2329
01:05:13,450 --> 01:05:15,450
improvements, you know,

2330
01:05:16,748 --> 01:05:17,382
unsurprised really since we

2331
01:05:17,382 --> 01:05:18,170
were right at that corner

2332
01:05:18,170 --> 01:05:18,517
catching people going from

2333
01:05:18,517 --> 01:05:20,517
corner to corner.

2334
01:05:20,619 --> 01:05:21,387
They were more focused on that

2335
01:05:21,387 --> 01:05:21,920
than on the other you know, new

2336
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:22,555
all ut improvements.

2337
01:05:22,555 --> 01:05:23,555
But that doesn't mean that

2338
01:05:23,555 --> 01:05:24,356
they're not meaningful.

2339
01:05:24,356 --> 01:05:27,956
It's just you know, what's the

2340
01:05:30,529 --> 01:05:32,929
demographic you're catching so

2341
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:35,400
wat makes you comfortable with

2342
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,800
the thought of potentially

2343
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:39,739
suspending the morning station

2344
01:05:39,739 --> 01:05:40,439
because there's obviously

2345
01:05:40,439 --> 01:05:42,608
something in the back of your

2346
01:05:42,608 --> 01:05:43,109
mind going away maybe we can do

2347
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:43,809
without it.

2348
01:05:43,809 --> 01:05:44,109
>> what what's what's behind

2349
01:05:44,109 --> 01:05:46,109
that?

2350
01:05:47,146 --> 01:05:50,883
So we had kind of a postmortem

2351
01:05:50,883 --> 01:05:51,483
this morning as I alluded to in

2352
01:05:51,483 --> 01:05:53,883
the presentation a bit.

2353
01:05:54,587 --> 01:05:55,554
It was very draining on staff

2354
01:05:55,554 --> 01:05:57,954
time, resources nd energy.

2355
01:05:58,910 --> 01:05:59,580
So being able to consolidate

2356
01:05:59,580 --> 01:06:02,327
all of that into the evening

2357
01:06:02,327 --> 01:06:03,280
event leaves us with much more

2358
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,729
options to ake that much

2359
01:06:03,729 --> 01:06:06,729
better instead of having to

2360
01:06:06,732 --> 01:06:07,400
stretch ourselves so thin.

2361
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,902
So it's not necessarily true

2362
01:06:09,902 --> 01:06:10,803
that we would do that.

2363
01:06:10,803 --> 01:06:13,606
It's just a possibility we're

2364
01:06:13,606 --> 01:06:14,306
exploring not only for our, you

2365
01:06:14,306 --> 01:06:14,940
know, time and energy but also

2366
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:17,242
the people helping us the

2367
01:06:17,242 --> 01:06:19,242
volunteers potential donors

2368
01:06:20,513 --> 01:06:20,746
supplying things or showing up

2369
01:06:20,746 --> 01:06:21,713
.

2370
01:06:21,713 --> 01:06:24,116
It's basically just that if we

2371
01:06:24,116 --> 01:06:24,783
have, you know, one event

2372
01:06:24,783 --> 01:06:27,783
that's smaller scale and you

2373
01:06:28,321 --> 01:06:29,550
know, not as fun we have one

2374
01:06:29,550 --> 01:06:31,657
that's a much bigger deal being

2375
01:06:31,657 --> 01:06:32,491
able to consolidate everything

2376
01:06:32,491 --> 01:06:33,159
into that could potentially,

2377
01:06:33,159 --> 01:06:36,261
you know, have a much better

2378
01:06:36,261 --> 01:06:39,861
day overall all that we're also

2379
01:06:40,766 --> 01:06:41,434
looking at impact in terms of

2380
01:06:41,434 --> 01:06:42,135
the community and engagement

2381
01:06:42,135 --> 01:06:44,404
and we just feel like the the

2382
01:06:44,404 --> 01:06:44,737
afternoon event engages a lot

2383
01:06:44,737 --> 01:06:46,737
better.

2384
01:06:47,707 --> 01:06:48,707
It gives that full experience

2385
01:06:48,707 --> 01:06:51,644
of a festival kind of going on

2386
01:06:51,644 --> 01:06:52,645
getting kids actually on bikes

2387
01:06:52,645 --> 01:06:55,648
at the younger ages is great

2388
01:06:55,648 --> 01:06:56,448
but yeah the day it's a it's a

2389
01:06:56,448 --> 01:06:58,651
great great day it's a holiday

2390
01:06:58,651 --> 01:07:01,720
really for us in terms of

2391
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,756
celebrating alternative modes

2392
01:07:02,756 --> 01:07:05,858
but you know at 7 A.M. To 7

2393
01:07:05,858 --> 01:07:06,759
P.M. And there's a lot of steps

2394
01:07:06,759 --> 01:07:10,329
you know I got my 15,000 steps

2395
01:07:10,329 --> 01:07:11,290
that day it's it's a lot of

2396
01:07:11,290 --> 01:07:13,429
moving stuff coordination and

2397
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,800
not only that prepping for both

2398
01:07:17,870 --> 01:07:18,938
events and advanced so brianna

2399
01:07:18,938 --> 01:07:21,708
henry and I were all done a lot

2400
01:07:21,708 --> 01:07:22,542
of that that effort so got it

2401
01:07:22,542 --> 01:07:24,677
and and like all good hallmark

2402
01:07:24,677 --> 01:07:25,780
movies there's always a

2403
01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:25,778
festival.

2404
01:07:25,778 --> 01:07:28,778
>> something else I'll add is

2405
01:07:29,316 --> 01:07:30,216
that the evening event?

2406
01:07:30,216 --> 01:07:30,950
You know even if there are just

2407
01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:33,219
passers by who see a sign in

2408
01:07:33,219 --> 01:07:33,886
civic park there coming on

2409
01:07:33,886 --> 01:07:35,886
purpose they're necessarily

2410
01:07:36,889 --> 01:07:37,556
interested whereas in the

2411
01:07:37,556 --> 01:07:38,191
morning you're just catching

2412
01:07:38,191 --> 01:07:40,493
some fraction of people on

2413
01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:40,793
their way who are willing to

2414
01:07:40,793 --> 01:07:41,528
stop.

2415
01:07:41,528 --> 01:07:44,197
A lot of them are just happy to

2416
01:07:44,197 --> 01:07:44,497
grab a snack and go and that's

2417
01:07:44,497 --> 01:07:45,164
fine.

2418
01:07:45,164 --> 01:07:45,798
That's what we're there for.

2419
01:07:45,798 --> 01:07:47,700
But in terms of outreach,

2420
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:48,401
having these dedicated

2421
01:07:48,401 --> 01:07:49,680
information booths especially

2422
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,380
with a prize incentive to go

2423
01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:52,739
visit them all it lets us be a

2424
01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:55,475
lot more direct and a lot more

2425
01:07:55,475 --> 01:07:56,275
specific across different areas

2426
01:07:56,275 --> 01:07:59,612
just cover a lot more ground as

2427
01:07:59,612 --> 01:08:00,120
well in terms of outreach and

2428
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,313
information.

2429
01:08:00,313 --> 01:08:02,313
Great.

2430
01:08:03,416 --> 01:08:04,250
All good thinking there.

2431
01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:06,250
Any other commissioner

2432
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,880
questions there being none we

2433
01:08:11,458 --> 01:08:12,192
will move to public comment.

2434
01:08:12,192 --> 01:08:14,994
Is there anyone in the public

2435
01:08:14,994 --> 01:08:15,295
who wishes to comment on this

2436
01:08:15,295 --> 01:08:17,295
item?

2437
01:08:19,299 --> 01:08:19,966
>> we have no members of the

2438
01:08:19,966 --> 01:08:20,300
public wishing the required

2439
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:22,300
comment.

2440
01:08:22,602 --> 01:08:23,437
>> thank you MR. Secretary.

2441
01:08:23,437 --> 01:08:26,306
We'll close public comment and

2442
01:08:26,306 --> 01:08:28,706
move to commissioner comments.

2443
01:08:30,577 --> 01:08:31,378
How about will the vice chair

2444
01:08:31,378 --> 01:08:33,981
patch you just like gone in

2445
01:08:33,981 --> 01:08:34,848
reverse order?

2446
01:08:34,848 --> 01:08:35,148
I like to mix it up.

2447
01:08:35,148 --> 01:08:37,148
Yeah.

2448
01:08:37,718 --> 01:08:38,117
Thank you for this presentation

2449
01:08:38,117 --> 01:08:39,152
.

2450
01:08:39,152 --> 01:08:41,755
I am so glad that it was such a

2451
01:08:41,755 --> 01:08:42,388
successful event for our first

2452
01:08:42,388 --> 01:08:42,689
time trying something like

2453
01:08:42,689 --> 01:08:44,689
this.

2454
01:08:45,291 --> 01:08:46,226
I mean that's very hard to do

2455
01:08:46,226 --> 01:08:49,280
so props to all of the staff

2456
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,300
that made that happen.

2457
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:52,732
I was really sad to MISS It.

2458
01:08:52,732 --> 01:08:53,933
I ended up with a migraine that

2459
01:08:53,933 --> 01:08:56,936
day so I couldn't go but I it

2460
01:08:56,936 --> 01:08:59,936
sounded like it was really

2461
01:09:00,173 --> 01:09:02,173
great.

2462
01:09:03,943 --> 01:09:04,645
I kind of understand why the

2463
01:09:04,645 --> 01:09:06,645
children participating skewed

2464
01:09:08,215 --> 01:09:11,318
in a younger age just given the

2465
01:09:11,318 --> 01:09:14,318
passport that we put together.

2466
01:09:14,487 --> 01:09:15,322
So I think there might need to

2467
01:09:15,322 --> 01:09:17,991
be like a second activity or a

2468
01:09:17,991 --> 01:09:19,250
more complicated obstacle

2469
01:09:19,250 --> 01:09:21,895
course if you do want to get

2470
01:09:21,895 --> 01:09:24,295
those older children involved

2471
01:09:25,766 --> 01:09:28,402
and participating in a way

2472
01:09:28,402 --> 01:09:29,236
that's meaningful like maybe

2473
01:09:29,236 --> 01:09:30,370
there is two activities, right?

2474
01:09:30,370 --> 01:09:33,720
Like there's a safe space to

2475
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:33,707
learn to ride a bike and then

2476
01:09:33,707 --> 01:09:36,107
there's an obstacle course

2477
01:09:39,713 --> 01:09:40,680
that's hard or for those teens

2478
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,950
in terms of the the morning

2479
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:46,950
station versus this I totally

2480
01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:51,591
hear staff on it takes a lot of

2481
01:09:51,591 --> 01:09:52,626
effort and resources to do that

2482
01:09:52,626 --> 01:09:55,626
and I'm almost wondering if

2483
01:09:55,962 --> 01:09:59,562
maybe we need to think about

2484
01:09:59,666 --> 01:10:03,266
doing the bike not a rodeo

2485
01:10:03,437 --> 01:10:04,137
rodeo n a different day like

2486
01:10:04,137 --> 01:10:06,540
halfway through the years you

2487
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:07,374
have two events kind of trying

2488
01:10:07,374 --> 01:10:10,374
to promote bike safety and

2489
01:10:11,812 --> 01:10:12,512
other modules of transportation

2490
01:10:12,512 --> 01:10:15,983
just because I think that the

2491
01:10:15,983 --> 01:10:16,784
morning session does hit a

2492
01:10:16,784 --> 01:10:19,184
different demographic than a

2493
01:10:19,853 --> 01:10:22,253
fun festival family focused

2494
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:26,927
situation or maybe you save

2495
01:10:26,927 --> 01:10:29,327
having those morning sessions

2496
01:10:30,731 --> 01:10:31,465
for years where we are looking

2497
01:10:31,465 --> 01:10:34,465
for public feedback on specific

2498
01:10:34,635 --> 01:10:35,470
transportation changes, right?

2499
01:10:35,470 --> 01:10:36,103
So last year it was really

2500
01:10:36,103 --> 01:10:38,503
important because we were

2501
01:10:38,505 --> 01:10:39,306
asking questions about the

2502
01:10:39,306 --> 01:10:42,577
changes the city was looking to

2503
01:10:42,577 --> 01:10:43,310
make on some of those

2504
01:10:43,310 --> 01:10:46,310
intersections where we have the

2505
01:10:46,614 --> 01:10:47,281
station and and maybe we didn't

2506
01:10:47,281 --> 01:10:49,716
need it this year because we

2507
01:10:49,716 --> 01:10:50,384
got the feedback last year or

2508
01:10:50,384 --> 01:10:50,985
next year we don't need it

2509
01:10:50,985 --> 01:10:53,385
because we're not doing

2510
01:10:53,854 --> 01:10:56,854
anything active instead of just

2511
01:10:57,358 --> 01:10:58,192
doing away with it entirely for

2512
01:10:58,192 --> 01:11:01,192
all for forseeable future using

2513
01:11:01,361 --> 01:11:02,162
it more strategically when we

2514
01:11:02,162 --> 01:11:04,562
want to do constituent

2515
01:11:05,532 --> 01:11:08,532
engagement and and then it

2516
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:10,404
sounded like you had a lot of

2517
01:11:10,404 --> 01:11:10,938
booths for your first year

2518
01:11:10,938 --> 01:11:12,938
which is fantastic.

2519
01:11:13,507 --> 01:11:16,507
I think two ideas for

2520
01:11:16,878 --> 01:11:17,645
additional booths is working

2521
01:11:17,645 --> 01:11:20,450
with the organization downtown

2522
01:11:20,948 --> 01:11:21,682
walnut creek to see if maybe

2523
01:11:21,682 --> 01:11:24,985
they'll get some of the walnut

2524
01:11:24,985 --> 01:11:25,653
creek businesses to have booths

2525
01:11:25,653 --> 01:11:28,489
there and a lot of them do.

2526
01:11:28,489 --> 01:11:29,123
Have you know, bike racks right

2527
01:11:29,123 --> 01:11:32,123
in front of their stores.

2528
01:11:32,260 --> 01:11:33,610
So those might be particular

2529
01:11:33,610 --> 01:11:36,610
for companies that want to

2530
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:37,732
participate and then the why am

2531
01:11:37,732 --> 01:11:40,267
I forgetting the name again

2532
01:11:40,267 --> 01:11:41,680
role to school walk and roll

2533
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,905
rock rock and roll program I

2534
01:11:43,905 --> 01:11:44,606
got that they had a little

2535
01:11:44,606 --> 01:11:47,475
energizer station but it feels

2536
01:11:47,475 --> 01:11:48,750
like they should have a booth

2537
01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:50,979
at this festival as well

2538
01:11:50,979 --> 01:11:53,379
specifically because they focus

2539
01:11:54,448 --> 01:11:55,450
on bike safety for kids and

2540
01:11:55,450 --> 01:11:58,986
they can you know, talk to the

2541
01:11:58,986 --> 01:11:59,720
parents about if they want to

2542
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,889
volunteer or if their school is

2543
01:12:01,889 --> 01:12:02,723
not already participating in

2544
01:12:02,723 --> 01:12:05,393
the program how they could get

2545
01:12:05,393 --> 01:12:05,927
the program at their school.

2546
01:12:05,927 --> 01:12:07,927
Thank you.

2547
01:12:09,396 --> 01:12:10,298
Commissioner guerrero I thought

2548
01:12:10,298 --> 01:12:11,299
I was going to presentation and

2549
01:12:11,299 --> 01:12:14,299
yeah thank you very much.

2550
01:12:15,937 --> 01:12:16,837
>> other comments?

2551
01:12:16,837 --> 01:12:18,840
MR. Mcmahon yeah thank you for

2552
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,273
the presentation that was

2553
01:12:19,273 --> 01:12:20,740
awesome.

2554
01:12:20,740 --> 01:12:23,411
The bike rodeo looks super fun

2555
01:12:23,411 --> 01:12:24,279
and yeah I think it's one of

2556
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:24,980
the best days of the year in

2557
01:12:24,980 --> 01:12:26,848
walnut creek honestly overall

2558
01:12:26,848 --> 01:12:27,549
and I really like what

2559
01:12:27,549 --> 01:12:29,518
commissioner paige said about

2560
01:12:29,518 --> 01:12:30,317
maybe make it two days where

2561
01:12:30,317 --> 01:12:33,721
just so you guys don't have to

2562
01:12:33,721 --> 01:12:36,124
you know be there ll day and

2563
01:12:36,124 --> 01:12:36,891
then yeah and then you kind f

2564
01:12:36,891 --> 01:12:37,391
have two days where we focus on

2565
01:12:37,391 --> 01:12:39,391
alternate forms of

2566
01:12:39,527 --> 01:12:40,394
transportation.

2567
01:12:40,394 --> 01:12:41,960
But honestly from the pictures

2568
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,365
and from your presentation it

2569
01:12:43,365 --> 01:12:44,198
looks like you've been doing it

2570
01:12:44,198 --> 01:12:47,168
for many years and it's looking

2571
01:12:47,168 --> 01:12:48,690
awesome.

2572
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:48,703
So I think yeah maybe just a

2573
01:12:48,703 --> 01:12:49,403
few little tweaks here and

2574
01:12:49,403 --> 01:12:51,372
there to just get more people

2575
01:12:51,372 --> 01:12:52,730
out there and make it better

2576
01:12:52,730 --> 01:12:55,420
and yeah get a few more older

2577
01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:55,743
kids in there I think would be

2578
01:12:55,743 --> 01:12:56,611
great but yeah it sounds like

2579
01:12:56,611 --> 01:12:58,513
you guys are on the right track

2580
01:12:58,513 --> 01:13:01,216
and you're doing a great job so

2581
01:13:01,216 --> 01:13:03,216
really ppreciate that.

2582
01:13:05,860 --> 01:13:05,620
Thank you.

2583
01:13:05,620 --> 01:13:06,870
This is great.

2584
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:08,870
It's very cute.

2585
01:13:08,323 --> 01:13:09,357
I like the idea.

2586
01:13:09,357 --> 01:13:12,957
I also like the idea of

2587
01:13:19,334 --> 01:13:20,568
expanding it.

2588
01:13:20,568 --> 01:13:23,938
>> I guess the main comment I'm

2589
01:13:23,938 --> 01:13:24,673
thinking of I always like to

2590
01:13:24,673 --> 01:13:28,273
think a little outside the box

2591
01:13:31,312 --> 01:13:32,460
so thinking about the state of

2592
01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:35,460
the walnut festival and you

2593
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:36,150
know it was been displaced from

2594
01:13:36,150 --> 01:13:39,150
heather farms park some eople

2595
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:40,722
have suggested oh why can't we

2596
01:13:40,722 --> 01:13:42,924
have the walnut festival at

2597
01:13:42,924 --> 01:13:43,758
civic park secretary's

2598
01:13:43,758 --> 01:13:46,758
wondering where I'm going with

2599
01:13:46,928 --> 01:13:49,928
this but what about maybe

2600
01:13:50,265 --> 01:13:53,265
growing this a little bit

2601
01:13:54,469 --> 01:13:55,471
bigger within the confines of

2602
01:13:55,471 --> 01:13:58,874
civic park and you know, at a

2603
01:13:58,874 --> 01:14:01,844
minimum make it all I guess

2604
01:14:01,844 --> 01:14:04,844
call it all non car

2605
01:14:05,514 --> 01:14:07,914
transportation mode so walking

2606
01:14:12,821 --> 01:14:15,221
biking, biking e-scooters you

2607
01:14:16,391 --> 01:14:16,958
can also even bring in contra

2608
01:14:16,958 --> 01:14:18,958
costa county transit.

2609
01:14:20,496 --> 01:14:21,263
You know that's another form of

2610
01:14:21,263 --> 01:14:23,663
it's not human transportation

2611
01:14:23,799 --> 01:14:24,633
per se but it's another form of

2612
01:14:24,633 --> 01:14:25,367
non vehicle because that's I

2613
01:14:25,367 --> 01:14:27,836
think that's what we're kind of

2614
01:14:27,836 --> 01:14:28,503
driving towards and if you

2615
01:14:28,503 --> 01:14:31,340
could bring in more if you

2616
01:14:31,340 --> 01:14:34,340
could get more maybe food

2617
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:35,910
booths and vendors there and

2618
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:39,548
just kind of grow it to maybe

2619
01:14:39,548 --> 01:14:40,215
make it a little bit bigger if

2620
01:14:40,215 --> 01:14:40,916
you're going to go with the

2621
01:14:40,916 --> 01:14:42,851
festival came up with a crazy

2622
01:14:42,851 --> 01:14:43,552
name the bike nut festival

2623
01:14:43,552 --> 01:14:46,552
instead of the walnut festival

2624
01:14:46,689 --> 01:14:47,689
but I know that sounds really

2625
01:14:47,689 --> 01:14:50,992
bad but I'm just wondering you

2626
01:14:50,992 --> 01:14:51,393
know consider thinking a little

2627
01:14:51,393 --> 01:14:53,393
bit bigger.

2628
01:14:54,396 --> 01:14:55,230
You got a great facility there

2629
01:14:55,230 --> 01:14:58,660
and I think people walnut creek

2630
01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:01,660
are craving what they're not

2631
01:15:01,770 --> 01:15:02,571
getting with the displaced

2632
01:15:02,571 --> 01:15:03,238
walnut festival even if it's

2633
01:15:03,238 --> 01:15:03,906
going to be obviously a lot

2634
01:15:03,906 --> 01:15:06,906
smaller than what the walnut

2635
01:15:07,243 --> 01:15:08,760
festival used to be.

2636
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,778
>> and you know now when they

2637
01:15:09,778 --> 01:15:10,779
do the walnut festival when

2638
01:15:10,779 --> 01:15:11,480
they do it, they do t in

2639
01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:11,781
antioch and that's really far

2640
01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,749
away.

2641
01:15:13,749 --> 01:15:14,416
What could we make this

2642
01:15:14,416 --> 01:15:17,416
something bigger but at the

2643
01:15:17,552 --> 01:15:20,856
same time keep that you know

2644
01:15:20,856 --> 01:15:22,856
non automobile transportation

2645
01:15:24,861 --> 01:15:25,561
focus as a theme that's really

2646
01:15:25,561 --> 01:15:29,161
my only comment other than you

2647
01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:31,333
know great work on the event

2648
01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:34,904
and I think that's just like

2649
01:15:34,904 --> 01:15:35,571
the other item we don't need

2650
01:15:35,571 --> 01:15:37,971
emotion we're just receiving

2651
01:15:38,708 --> 01:15:39,800
information so I get to do it

2652
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,810
again.

2653
01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:43,210
>> this topic is closed.

2654
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,480
>> thank you very much.

2655
01:15:50,186 --> 01:15:53,786
Here eel my gavel apple all

2656
01:15:54,857 --> 01:15:55,458
right.

2657
01:15:55,458 --> 01:15:56,125
>> all right.

2658
01:15:56,125 --> 01:15:58,525
Moving n to commissioner

2659
01:15:58,794 --> 01:15:59,228
announcements and brief reports

2660
01:15:59,228 --> 01:16:01,228
on activities.

2661
01:16:02,899 --> 01:16:03,699
So do any of the commissioners

2662
01:16:03,699 --> 01:16:04,233
have any activities they've

2663
01:16:04,233 --> 01:16:06,633
attended or have any

2664
01:16:06,902 --> 01:16:07,169
announcements or reports if

2665
01:16:07,169 --> 01:16:09,169
any?

2666
01:16:11,107 --> 01:16:11,908
>> we have the the breakfast to

2667
01:16:11,908 --> 01:16:15,345
report on we can would you like

2668
01:16:15,345 --> 01:16:15,712
to report on that vice hair

2669
01:16:15,712 --> 01:16:16,412
approach?

2670
01:16:16,412 --> 01:16:18,247
I think you would be fantastic

2671
01:16:18,247 --> 01:16:19,315
at it.

2672
01:16:19,315 --> 01:16:19,682
>> I, I don't know what to

2673
01:16:19,682 --> 01:16:21,682
report on.

2674
01:16:21,951 --> 01:16:25,551
I'll just just you know every

2675
01:16:25,655 --> 01:16:26,456
every corner there's a for

2676
01:16:26,456 --> 01:16:29,559
people who don't know there's a

2677
01:16:29,559 --> 01:16:30,359
mayors breakfast meeting it

2678
01:16:30,359 --> 01:16:33,362
usually has the mayor the vice

2679
01:16:33,362 --> 01:16:34,364
mayor mayor pro tem city

2680
01:16:34,364 --> 01:16:37,964
manager and then it has the

2681
01:16:38,670 --> 01:16:40,937
chair and vice chair of all the

2682
01:16:40,937 --> 01:16:43,337
commissions and committees and

2683
01:16:44,907 --> 01:16:45,708
then usually the city staff,

2684
01:16:45,708 --> 01:16:48,708
usually the secretaries of the

2685
01:16:48,878 --> 01:16:49,545
various commissions and we get

2686
01:16:49,545 --> 01:16:52,545
great update from the mayor

2687
01:16:53,490 --> 01:16:53,850
what's going on in the city,

2688
01:16:53,850 --> 01:16:56,520
the mayor, the mayor pro tem

2689
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,652
and the city manager and then

2690
01:16:59,789 --> 01:17:00,656
we rotate around and each pair

2691
01:17:00,656 --> 01:17:01,357
of commission chair and vice

2692
01:17:01,357 --> 01:17:04,600
chairs do an update on what's

2693
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:04,760
happened since the last meeting

2694
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,461
that the various commission so

2695
01:17:05,461 --> 01:17:09,661
it's a great it's a great way

2696
01:17:10,833 --> 01:17:11,701
to share I always ncourage

2697
01:17:11,701 --> 01:17:12,469
even if you're not chair or

2698
01:17:12,469 --> 01:17:15,172
vice chair when I'm not vice

2699
01:17:15,172 --> 01:17:15,906
chair or chair I still go it's

2700
01:17:15,906 --> 01:17:18,842
really fun to listen to and you

2701
01:17:18,842 --> 01:17:21,811
get a free breakfast with some

2702
01:17:21,811 --> 01:17:22,612
pretty good food so anything

2703
01:17:22,612 --> 01:17:25,481
that that brings up some

2704
01:17:25,481 --> 01:17:25,882
memories for you.

2705
01:17:25,882 --> 01:17:26,470
Yeah.

2706
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:26,216
-

2707
01:17:26,216 --> 01:17:28,216
all right.

2708
01:17:29,652 --> 01:17:33,252
Any other the the only activity

2709
01:17:33,390 --> 01:17:33,990
I took part in because I think

2710
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:36,659
I mentioned this at that

2711
01:17:36,659 --> 01:17:37,494
quarterly breakfast meeting I

2712
01:17:37,494 --> 01:17:41,940
did a friday night right along

2713
01:17:43,934 --> 01:17:44,334
with walnut police with officer

2714
01:17:44,334 --> 01:17:45,234
eric payton.

2715
01:17:45,234 --> 01:17:48,171
That was really a lot of fun.

2716
01:17:48,171 --> 01:17:50,571
Very educational and I

2717
01:17:52,142 --> 01:17:52,742
encourage others to request a

2718
01:17:52,742 --> 01:17:55,142
ride along the police

2719
01:17:56,512 --> 01:17:59,512
department is very open and

2720
01:17:59,715 --> 01:18:00,717
likes to take people along and

2721
01:18:00,717 --> 01:18:01,117
show us what they do and how

2722
01:18:01,117 --> 01:18:03,117
they do it.

2723
01:18:03,753 --> 01:18:06,153
>> I was definitely very

2724
01:18:07,924 --> 01:18:08,959
impressed with I never realized

2725
01:18:08,959 --> 01:18:10,727
because we just at a restaurant

2726
01:18:10,727 --> 01:18:14,327
in downtown you might see one

2727
01:18:14,397 --> 01:18:15,640
police vehicle but when I was

2728
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,464
driving around with officer

2729
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,935
payton I couldn't believe how

2730
01:18:18,935 --> 01:18:19,269
many times we ran into another

2731
01:18:19,269 --> 01:18:21,269
officer.

2732
01:18:21,538 --> 01:18:22,138
>> we have a lot of active

2733
01:18:22,138 --> 01:18:22,806
patrolling on friday and

2734
01:18:22,806 --> 01:18:25,206
saturday nights in downtown

2735
01:18:26,209 --> 01:18:29,146
makes us feel like it made me

2736
01:18:29,146 --> 01:18:30,800
feel a lot safer so I encourage

2737
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,649
people to take advantage of the

2738
01:18:32,649 --> 01:18:33,383
generosity of the police

2739
01:18:33,383 --> 01:18:33,716
department allowing the ride

2740
01:18:33,716 --> 01:18:35,716
alongs.

2741
01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:40,357
So that's all I've got.

2742
01:18:40,357 --> 01:18:43,957
That's oh go ahead vice chair

2743
01:18:44,193 --> 01:18:45,610
for a crosswalk improvement

2744
01:18:45,610 --> 01:18:47,131
bike trail improvement on jones

2745
01:18:47,131 --> 01:18:47,530
road is in place and it looks

2746
01:18:47,530 --> 01:18:49,530
fantastic.

2747
01:18:51,701 --> 01:18:52,703
>> great job.

2748
01:18:52,703 --> 01:18:55,605
>> and do we have any report

2749
01:18:55,605 --> 01:18:55,972
out from our williams

2750
01:18:55,972 --> 01:18:56,840
secretary?

2751
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,640
>> well we have so many I'm

2752
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,240
going to have brianna ome up

2753
01:19:02,413 --> 01:19:04,413
and all right.

2754
01:19:06,450 --> 01:19:07,350
Yeah.

2755
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:09,686
Hi commissioners again my are

2756
01:19:09,686 --> 01:19:10,554
for the new commissioners.

2757
01:19:10,554 --> 01:19:11,221
My name is brianna byrne.

2758
01:19:11,221 --> 01:19:13,390
I'm also a traffic engineer

2759
01:19:13,390 --> 01:19:13,690
here at the city of walnut

2760
01:19:13,690 --> 01:19:15,690
creek.

2761
01:19:17,361 --> 01:19:18,194
So good news grant updates.

2762
01:19:18,194 --> 01:19:21,194
So back in JANUARY, rashad

2763
01:19:21,264 --> 01:19:21,965
culver with our capital

2764
01:19:21,965 --> 01:19:23,965
improvement program presented

2765
01:19:27,505 --> 01:19:28,371
on tda grants we were going for

2766
01:19:28,371 --> 01:19:29,139
$100,000 to cover a portion of

2767
01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:31,208
class for bikeways on your

2768
01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:32,442
avenue.

2769
01:19:32,442 --> 01:19:35,445
We asked for 100, we got 80 so

2770
01:19:35,445 --> 01:19:38,445
and then the other great

2771
01:19:38,815 --> 01:19:41,815
updates just this past tuesday

2772
01:19:43,870 --> 01:19:46,557
we applied for tfc a grant it's

2773
01:19:46,557 --> 01:19:48,957
transportation clean air fund

2774
01:19:50,328 --> 01:19:53,597
fund air for clean air and so

2775
01:19:53,597 --> 01:19:57,197
we applied for two hundred and

2776
01:19:57,768 --> 01:19:58,536
$20,000 to cover a portion of

2777
01:19:58,536 --> 01:19:58,869
our parkside cycle track

2778
01:19:58,869 --> 01:20:00,869
project.

2779
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:02,873
This project received some

2780
01:20:02,873 --> 01:20:05,273
funds from our affordable

2781
01:20:06,143 --> 01:20:06,843
housing and sustainable

2782
01:20:06,843 --> 01:20:07,544
communities rant that we were

2783
01:20:07,544 --> 01:20:10,448
awarded a couple of years ago

2784
01:20:10,448 --> 01:20:11,148
but with the cost of

2785
01:20:11,148 --> 01:20:13,548
construction and general price

2786
01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:15,353
increases that we're noticing a

2787
01:20:15,353 --> 01:20:17,353
deficit.

2788
01:20:17,754 --> 01:20:18,322
So we had pursued $220,000 so

2789
01:20:18,322 --> 01:20:20,722
we applied on tuesday.

2790
01:20:21,391 --> 01:20:24,562
Stay tuned for updates on that.

2791
01:20:24,562 --> 01:20:25,329
And then the last thing I'm

2792
01:20:25,329 --> 01:20:28,329
going to share before passing

2793
01:20:28,666 --> 01:20:29,500
off to matt on also on tuesday

2794
01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:32,369
as we're still coming down from

2795
01:20:32,369 --> 01:20:35,369
our party planning energy, matt

2796
01:20:35,873 --> 01:20:36,674
and I got the opportunity to

2797
01:20:36,674 --> 01:20:39,543
work with our local fire

2798
01:20:39,543 --> 01:20:41,943
department station number one

2799
01:20:42,712 --> 01:20:43,447
over on civic drive just

2800
01:20:43,447 --> 01:20:44,348
literally across the street.

2801
01:20:44,348 --> 01:20:47,451
They had eached out a couple

2802
01:20:47,451 --> 01:20:50,451
weeks ago about our preemption

2803
01:20:51,210 --> 01:20:51,822
system so at our traffic

2804
01:20:51,822 --> 01:20:55,326
signals there is a device where

2805
01:20:55,326 --> 01:20:57,726
emergency service vehicles like

2806
01:20:58,896 --> 01:20:59,864
ambulances, police officers and

2807
01:20:59,864 --> 01:21:03,234
fire, they can put in a signal

2808
01:21:03,234 --> 01:21:03,667
to our traffic signals and ask

2809
01:21:03,667 --> 01:21:04,434
for the green.

2810
01:21:04,434 --> 01:21:06,871
So they had reached out about

2811
01:21:06,871 --> 01:21:07,471
some intersections they were

2812
01:21:07,471 --> 01:21:09,471
having difficulty with.

2813
01:21:10,874 --> 01:21:11,409
And so matt and I got to do a

2814
01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:12,309
bit of a ride along.

2815
01:21:12,309 --> 01:21:14,612
I was in the front seat with

2816
01:21:14,612 --> 01:21:15,446
the laptop, remote it into our

2817
01:21:15,446 --> 01:21:17,915
servers and matt was at the

2818
01:21:17,915 --> 01:21:20,685
cabinet making sure that we

2819
01:21:20,685 --> 01:21:21,419
were getting the preempt and so

2820
01:21:21,419 --> 01:21:21,853
we looked at five

2821
01:21:21,853 --> 01:21:23,853
intersections.

2822
01:21:24,622 --> 01:21:28,222
We were able to investigate a

2823
01:21:28,358 --> 01:21:29,293
couple tweaks our traffic

2824
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:30,270
signal and maintenance guys

2825
01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:32,964
made a couple tweaks, confirmed

2826
01:21:32,964 --> 01:21:33,597
some we're working and matt and

2827
01:21:33,597 --> 01:21:36,734
I have some next steps and

2828
01:21:36,734 --> 01:21:37,735
we're looking to do another

2829
01:21:37,735 --> 01:21:40,438
ride along with our officers in

2830
01:21:40,438 --> 01:21:41,105
the next six months or so after

2831
01:21:41,105 --> 01:21:43,441
we've been able to make more

2832
01:21:43,441 --> 01:21:45,841
tweaks on our system.

2833
01:21:47,445 --> 01:21:48,446
Yah that was fun.

2834
01:21:48,446 --> 01:21:51,416
Just as a kind of public

2835
01:21:51,416 --> 01:21:52,150
announcement that the bridge

2836
01:21:52,150 --> 01:21:54,652
the pedestrian bridge that goes

2837
01:21:54,652 --> 01:21:55,653
along the iron horse trail

2838
01:21:55,653 --> 01:21:58,653
overtreat boulevard it has some

2839
01:21:59,230 --> 01:22:02,930
repairs and so they will be

2840
01:22:02,930 --> 01:22:02,961
closing treatment boulevard

2841
01:22:02,961 --> 01:22:03,728
they will close tree boulevard

2842
01:22:03,728 --> 01:22:07,328
at this location at jones road

2843
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:09,467
basically at night for two

2844
01:22:09,467 --> 01:22:11,467
weeks time.

2845
01:22:13,170 --> 01:22:16,841
i don't know when this will be

2846
01:22:16,841 --> 01:22:18,800
just heads up and if we meet

2847
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,178
again or have a date if they're

2848
01:22:20,178 --> 01:22:23,778
closer to to working on that

2849
01:22:24,215 --> 01:22:25,249
you should know the general

2850
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plan study session meeting is

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in on JUNE 25th at 6 P.M. On

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the third floor which you can

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take that elevator to get up to

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.

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So just looking for your

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attendance there it's a

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basically informational item

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gather feedback and kind of

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start that general plan

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outreach effort with our

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commissioners.

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So be a big all the

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commissioners, all ill be

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gathering and that's all.

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>> thank you.