1 00:00:01,870 --> 00:00:14,030 Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to call the regular council meeting of July 10, 2023 to order, please. First, I'll have a land acknowledgment, and I will ask Councillor Chung to read that, please. 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:33,520 Thank you, through the chair. We would like to recognize that we are standing, working meeting on the traditional unceded territory of the Samiyamu First Nations, and also wish to acknowledge the broad of territories of the Coast Salish peoples. Thank you, Councillor Chung, and I see we have Councillor Chung 3 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,640 The next is the adoption of the agenda and it's been amended so Ms. Arthur do you want 4 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,260 to speak to that? 5 00:00:44,660 --> 00:00:45,400 Thank you, Mary. 6 00:00:45,620 --> 00:00:50,500 It's amended to add an item for a question and answer period on table submission as well 7 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:58,220 as noted in the agenda item 6.2.a the corporate report on the daytime warming center summary 8 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:58,540 report. 9 00:00:59,060 --> 00:00:59,180 Okay. 10 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Thank you, Ms. Arthur. 11 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,340 So I'll entertain a motion to move adoption as amended. 12 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,480 Seconder, all those in favour? 13 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,220 Opposed? 14 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:08,540 Carried. 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Next is adoption of the minutes of June 26, 2023 is circulated. 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,140 Move adoption. 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,040 Seconder. 18 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:16,740 Okay. 19 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:17,500 All those in favour? 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Opposed? 21 00:01:18,740 --> 00:01:18,980 Carried. 22 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,600 Now we're going to recess this meeting. 23 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:28,280 So I'll take a motion to postpone and then directly following the public meeting, we will 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,080 reconvene. 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,680 So can I have a motion please so moved so all is in favor opposed carried council 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,160 We're going to be ready. 27 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:46,970 Okay. Thank you. So we're going to question an answer period now and miss Arthur 28 00:01:54,610 --> 00:01:55,030 Thank you 29 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:59,050 We do have some signed up for question and answer period so I'll read the procedure to start 30 00:01:59,550 --> 00:02:04,690 In accordance with the city bylaw question and answer period will be timed to not exceed 15 minutes 31 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:06,450 If there are a number of speakers 32 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:12,250 Council may wish to extend this time by a vote for further 15 minutes just prior to 33 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:16,130 the conclusion of the regular council meeting. Each speaker will be given two 34 00:02:16,130 --> 00:02:20,470 minutes and one opportunity to speak. There's a sign-in sheet available for 35 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:24,530 anyone wanting to speak during this time where you're asked to place your name 36 00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:28,450 in City of Residence and you'll be called in the same order. Speakers are asked 37 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:32,150 to begin by stating their name in City of Residence and this information will 38 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:35,910 be included in the minutes, along with the summary list of questions, comments, 39 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:38,770 and topics and any answers given at this time. 40 00:02:39,890 --> 00:02:42,650 Nothing, something that's not answered this evening 41 00:02:42,650 --> 00:02:44,150 will be placed on the city website. 42 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:46,990 And a reminder there to be no questions or comments 43 00:02:46,990 --> 00:02:48,910 on a matter that will be the subject 44 00:02:48,910 --> 00:02:51,290 of a public hearing during the time 45 00:02:51,290 --> 00:02:53,470 between the public hearing and final consideration 46 00:02:53,470 --> 00:02:54,350 of the by-law. 47 00:02:56,270 --> 00:02:57,110 Thank you, Ms. Arthur. 48 00:02:58,870 --> 00:03:00,630 Ms. Johnson, do we have a sign of it? 49 00:03:00,710 --> 00:03:04,530 And Marinette, I will note we've got five speakers signed up. 50 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:06,550 So we'll just be watching that two minutes. 51 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:14,610 First on the list, we have, I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing this, Gagan Bufall. 52 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:17,010 Please come forward. 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Just your name and place of residence, please. 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,140 Is this speaker on? 55 00:03:29,620 --> 00:03:29,820 It's on. 56 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:30,580 Okay. 57 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:35,640 So this is in regards to obtaining a tree permit from my property located on 15829 Prospect 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,060 Crescent. 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,500 Basically, it's been multiple months now and I can't seem to get an in-person meeting with anyone 60 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:44,440 at the tree department, which is basically cost me thousands of dollars at this point. I've also 61 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,760 submitted a report for undue hardship to the city indicating that the tree would cost me a maximum 62 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:57,380 fine of $10,000 if I were to cut it down, but to maintain and retain that tree is cost to me 63 00:03:57,380 --> 00:04:04,340 around $23,000 at a bare minimum. So the entire mayor and council's whole campaign was affordability 64 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:10,640 the city and speeding up processes to get the permit. And it's been, again, I've been going 65 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,020 at this since about April, March and we're in July now. Still haven't obtained the permit. 66 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:21,860 Again, you can see the cost to retain the tree, far exceed what it costs to cut down the tree. 67 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:27,780 With that said, I'd like Mayor and Council or whoever to contact whoever this delegated authority is 68 00:04:28,490 --> 00:04:33,000 to weigh whatever objections they have so that we can move on with the project. 69 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:46,960 If this is not possible, can you at least arrange some sort of sit down meeting with the tree department so we can go over what options we can go through and what options my arborist has to go ahead and continue on with the project. 70 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,620 Thank you. 71 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:54,580 Oh, one of the things well, we're not just trying to cut down trees on property for the 72 00:04:54,580 --> 00:04:58,640 sake of cutting down trees, there are three or four other trees on the property that 73 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,040 we can cut down that we've said to retain just because they cause no issues at all and 74 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,720 we want to keep the greenery in the city. 75 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:05,500 Yep. 76 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:06,160 Okay. 77 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Thank you. 78 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,420 So you had a response from staff regarding this tree? 79 00:05:10,780 --> 00:05:11,020 Yeah. 80 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,380 And they've said, no, you've got to just pay the cost that, you know, what are double what 81 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:22,960 cost to actually cut down the tree and that's what they're telling me. They said to continue 82 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:30,420 on to build your project you'll have to block off I guess the roadway during construction and again 83 00:05:30,420 --> 00:05:36,640 we would rather not do that because we're in a school zone. So blocking off a road in a school 84 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:42,260 zone would probably not be the greatest idea. Okay and who would you like to meet with them because 85 00:05:42,260 --> 00:05:47,000 you want to sit down with someone but you've already had a response from staff. So well whoever 86 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,980 can comment on this. So I don't know who this delegated authority is. I've asked and that 87 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,880 response has been ignored. So if you can find out who that is or tell me who that is, so I can contact 88 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:03,440 them, that would be great. If they can't weigh whatever objection that the department has, if you can sit 89 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,780 down or get me a meeting with, I guess, either Ann Berry or Atlantic Laffordy, that would be great as well 90 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:12,380 and sit down with my rubbers so we can just kind of go through what we can do about this. 91 00:06:12,380 --> 00:06:14,540 Okay, I'll just check with Mr. Ferrell on this. 92 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:16,080 Yeah, thank you, worship. 93 00:06:16,180 --> 00:06:17,800 Yeah, we can definitely set up a meeting. 94 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,500 That's not an issue. 95 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:20,720 However, there's no delegated authority 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,660 where staff is doing is following the by-law 97 00:06:22,660 --> 00:06:24,480 and the by-law has been adopted by council. 98 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:27,780 So only council can suspend or change the by-law. 99 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:30,000 So most likely, that's the same answer 100 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,460 that we're going to give you when you meet with us. 101 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,880 If you want to change the by-law, 102 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:34,760 we'll be happy to entertain. 103 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,600 But what is happening is we're just respecting 104 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,320 the by-law worship. 105 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,260 But we'll follow up with the delegation 106 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:49,920 So just a quick response for that, yeah, you'll give me that same response, but the thing is, when you sit down with my 107 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,420 Arborist, he has other things to do. We've sent three reports back to this. 108 00:06:53,420 --> 00:06:57,580 This is not an avenue to make a discussion. There's no debate. I'll give you the answer you want it. 109 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,380 Should me where you'll thank you. Sounds good. Okay. Thank you. 110 00:07:01,780 --> 00:07:11,000 Mr. Jostle. Next step, I have Pat Petrella. Pat Petrella. Can I just ask what these stickers are? Pat Petrella? 111 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,560 and I live in White Rock. I'm here to comment and ask questions around the possible elimination 112 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:22,780 of question and answer period. Not many people actually make time to follow council and 113 00:07:22,780 --> 00:07:26,440 make sure they review the agenda and see if there's anything they need to comment on. 114 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:31,360 And I'm just one voice in the community who believes in community engagement as a foundation 115 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:39,680 of our democracy. So few people actually vote. They actually participate or volunteer in community 116 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,840 the percentage numbers are very disappointing as a whole. 117 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:47,120 Thus the brief 15 minutes for our elected representatives 118 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,060 to hear from the community 119 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:52,460 and see others can see it by the video feed 120 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:54,560 and not just the one sentence in the paper 121 00:07:55,180 --> 00:07:56,380 is really valuable. 122 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,060 It's 15 minutes, two times a month. 123 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:02,780 It doesn't add up to very much time, in fact. 124 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,900 The mutual respect that we have for each other 125 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:08,180 includes hearing people venting, complaints, 126 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:13,700 constructive feedback and a learning curve all of it is constructive and is 127 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:18,340 appreciated. I trust you will reconsider the bylaw amendment to silence your 128 00:08:18,340 --> 00:08:24,220 neighbors so often people write leave messages try to share their perspective get 129 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:31,220 no response they seek advice and they get lost in the maze. They really want to be 130 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:36,220 a part of shaping the community. I do not think that question period coming 131 00:08:36,220 --> 00:08:38,920 forward are to be so easily discarded. 132 00:08:39,940 --> 00:08:45,520 Staff may need some time to respond or prepare or apply if needed, but that's the role that 133 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,900 taxpayers expect of our elected reps and staff. 134 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,380 Our taxes are paying for it, so I'm asking for the real math, what is the social consequences 135 00:08:54,380 --> 00:08:56,940 of eliminating 15 minutes, two times a month? 136 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,660 What's the measurable staff cost, why justify it, that it needs to be eliminated? 137 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,460 Thank you. 138 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:04,960 Thank you, Mr. Pichal. 139 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:07,840 Ms. Johnson? 140 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,920 Next on the list, I have Ingo Hearsy. 141 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,580 Ingo Harris, White Rock. 142 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Simple question. 143 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:33,040 You know, the two previous people, I relate to so much. 144 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,820 I have a simple question. 145 00:09:35,140 --> 00:09:38,980 What do I do when there's a question of safety and the city staff 146 00:09:38,980 --> 00:09:40,840 will no longer communicate with me? 147 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,720 I'm talking about the convex mirror. 148 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:49,840 one of us in Beachview. I've been told that I have to wait six months for traffic safety 149 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:58,640 report and possibly a year for capital improvements before anything is done for our safety. Safety 150 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,060 is the issue here and it's here now, not six months from now or a year from now. 151 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:06,450 In my opinion, 152 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:13,930 no qualified person has examined the safety risk at this corner. The residents of Beachview 153 00:10:13,930 --> 00:10:20,710 go there every single day, and the odd time we have somebody that's almost hitting us. 154 00:10:21,610 --> 00:10:29,530 You know, majority of the time, everything is fine, but there's the odd time that I know myself and everybody I've talked to have almost been hit. 155 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:33,350 I don't know what to do now, I can't talk to city staff, 156 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,040 and I want guidance. 157 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,360 I've sent each of you the email that what my concerns are. 158 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,820 I hope I get some kind of response of what I need to do to get this. 159 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:51,600 When City staff doesn't respond to me, I get frustrated and I think you can hear my voice. 160 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,840 In a way, so I'm going to leave it at that, other people want to talk. 161 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:57,000 But I hope I hear back from you. 162 00:10:57,220 --> 00:10:58,100 Thank you very much. 163 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,500 Well, you did hear from me and I did meet with you in person. 164 00:11:02,220 --> 00:11:06,940 And we did talk about a traffic study because we wanted a qualified person to do the report. 165 00:11:07,940 --> 00:11:28,100 I agree with that. Six months down the road is not now. We are having problems now. I almost got hit two days ago. I understand sir. I get angry. I don't know where you get in the six months with because Mr. Gordon said it will come to council this fall in the fall. It's July. 166 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:35,740 Okay, that's pretty much any problems, capital approval has been bought in 2024. 167 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:43,300 We both know that it's a job down the road and the island there that is causing the line 168 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:43,760 of sight. 169 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,080 So if any major improvement, yeah, it's going to be a kind of project. 170 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:50,520 I don't want to talk anymore. 171 00:11:50,940 --> 00:11:55,040 I'd rather get some kind of guide to what I need to do to have a safety issue. 172 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,380 Okay. 173 00:11:56,060 --> 00:11:56,500 Okay. 174 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,780 Thank you for coming forward. 175 00:11:58,680 --> 00:11:59,300 Ms. Johnson? 176 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Chris Shields. 177 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:09,260 Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. 178 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,400 My name is Chris Shields. 179 00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:12,380 I'm a resident of White Rock. 180 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,460 Got a few things I'd like to chat about. 181 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,420 One is the question and answer period. 182 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:24,120 I agree with the other people that have spoken and I'm concerned that if residents of White Rock 183 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,820 want to come forward and voice their concerns or opinions, that they don't have an avenue 184 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:29,340 to do that. 185 00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:34,500 I've been told that they can email, send in an email, but I've also seen what happens 186 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,380 when we send in an email, there's often pushback. 187 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:43,460 And also this form is a public form, and when someone comes up and voices their question 188 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:48,900 or concern, it's streamed and other people in the city of White Rock get to see it and 189 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:49,240 hear it. 190 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,100 So that's transparent. 191 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,900 So taking that away makes me concerned about the transparency moving forward if you do 192 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:57,220 approve the by-law change. 193 00:12:57,220 --> 00:13:03,920 So I would like to see the question and answer period remain, and I understand some of the 194 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,420 changes would mean you have to be here in person. 195 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,960 I think that might be reasonable, but certainly not sticking to what's on the agenda because 196 00:13:12,460 --> 00:13:17,660 an average resident of White Rock is going to be challenged to get something put on the 197 00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:19,920 agenda so that they can come and talk about it. 198 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:26,220 The other thing I would like to chat about is the mirror, the safety issue that Ingo just 199 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:30,940 spoke about my neighbor. I just want to back up what he's saying. Like he's concerned 200 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:35,620 and we all on the street are concerned if we have to wait for a traffic safety study 201 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:41,200 and it could be in next year's budget before something gets done. That's too far away 202 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:49,120 and we're just an accident waiting to happen. So I also have some concerns around the process. 203 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,540 I find it very challenging to believe that instead of just adjusting that mirror after 204 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:57,180 to the November winds and tightening it, 205 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,120 which would have taken maybe 15 minutes or less. 206 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:02,360 We spent a lot of time and effort 207 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,960 and emails back and forth and meetings with the mayor 208 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,880 and Chatson City Hall. 209 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,680 And really, we're being told that they went 210 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:16,200 and got legal opinion and that it's a liability issue. 211 00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:17,460 I struggle to believe that. 212 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:21,020 Like so the city would spend maybe $700 an hour 213 00:14:21,020 --> 00:14:22,800 to a lawyer to cut you off. 214 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,300 Yeah. Like I found that very challenging two minutes. Thank you. Thank you. 215 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:28,520 Ms. Johnson? 216 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,660 The last one signed up on the list. 217 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:32,980 I'm here to Scott Christensen. 218 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,860 Thank you. Again, council. Uh, Scott Christensen. I live in Wayrock. I'm proud of that. Um, 219 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:47,700 I have a very simple question and I have to put into context. But my question to this council is, 220 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:53,200 what is your current process for deciding which zoning changes go to a public hearing and which not? 221 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Let me put that into context. We just had a public hearing. I won't mention the details, but it tripled the size of 222 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,920 All of the proposed building. I think that's a great thing to go to public hearing and thank you for making that happen. Also, and I notice this on the July 6th pan, it was advertised perfect. Also advertised was a notice of waiver of public hearing for 15, 14, 54 Oxford Street, where there are going to be tripling the number of units from 43 to 125 on Oxford Street. That is so much more significant to 223 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,960 the public and it's very inappropriate to me that that is not going to have a public hearing so 224 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:42,320 I would like to get a answer from council or the mayor anybody or staff um what is the process 225 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,500 let's understand why some things are excluded and some things are not I will say that's you know 226 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:52,660 online people are you know suggesting well maybe that's because some of the council members you know 227 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:58,720 they're talk talk of campaign donations and stuff it's it's not appropriate but um I just think 228 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 I think we need to have that process, and I would appreciate that. 229 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Okay, well, and I got, sorry, I'm sorry, I just want to echo that I think it's a mistake to limit Q&A. 230 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,520 I found, you know, I did the dogs on the problem and that task force, I got inundated with lots of negative feedback. 231 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:21,340 But you learn so much from people who give you that feedback, and I think the process is better for it. 232 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:27,860 I think the public will appreciate it if you don't close down Q&A, and I think you'll get better information from everybody. 233 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:28,760 Okay, so thank you very much. 234 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Okay, so your question regarding the zoning and that, 235 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:34,580 what we had this evening was a public meeting 236 00:16:34,580 --> 00:16:37,200 because we're doing a development variance permit. 237 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:41,260 So public hearing, you were talking about on the Oxford, 238 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,000 I think it was, it's what you said. 239 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,780 That was regarding a typo in the document. 240 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,040 So that's the reason we're not holding a public hearing again. 241 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:51,440 Okay, so pretty straightforward. 242 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Okay, so that calls, that's everybody on the list 243 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,580 Are we out of time or we still have time? 244 00:16:58,940 --> 00:17:01,440 We've got time for one more, okay. 245 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Is there anyone from the audience that would like to come forward? 246 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,500 Not seeing any? 247 00:17:07,780 --> 00:17:09,160 Second time? 248 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,280 Not seeing any? 249 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,840 And at this time I'll note that on table submission from Mr. Gumley and it's regarding 250 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,620 the Q&A rules and changes to the agenda publishing. 251 00:17:23,620 --> 00:17:29,460 So this is on table. It's available for the public and there's questions on in regard 252 00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:36,020 to that council have. Okay, great. Mr. Ferraro, do you want to respond to that or do 253 00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:41,020 you want to do that by email? You were supposed to do it by email. Most of these are comments 254 00:17:41,020 --> 00:17:48,360 and the questions are really for cultural patterns and chunks. So I would try to stay away from 255 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:52,080 But if I can provide some facts, I can definitely do it by now. 256 00:17:53,380 --> 00:17:57,560 Okay, so council, we will make a motion to receive that then. 257 00:17:58,740 --> 00:17:59,360 What should I receive? 258 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:02,420 Okay, any discussion? All those in favour? 259 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:04,020 Opposed? Carried. 260 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,380 Okay, we're going to move on to delegations. 261 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:09,600 And first, we have Cheryl Light-Towers. 262 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:11,400 If she would like to come forward, please. 263 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:23,700 Okay, you have five minutes, Ms. Light-Towers. 264 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:31,560 Good afternoon, Mayor Knight and Council, thank you for accepting our request to speak. 265 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:38,600 My name is Cheryl Light-Towler, I'm a White Rock citizen, and a planner along with Kathy 266 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Booth and Bonnie Gillis of the recent homelessness on the Peninsula Forum, which Mayor Knight and 267 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:52,900 councilor Chung attended. Honestly, we were surprised and encouraged by this 268 00:18:52,900 --> 00:19:00,120 tending remonely crowd of 150 people. And out of that, we're here today 269 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:07,600 advocating for the unhoused on the peninsula. I have about 85 letters that 270 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:14,820 were signed that evening that I will leave for you to read. One of our speakers at 271 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:21,160 Aileen Murphy, Acting Director of Housing and Social Planning for the City of Surrey, 272 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:28,040 told me at the break that she was energized by the compassion that she felt in the room. 273 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:34,960 Very quickly, she arranged for us to meet with her, and her supervisor, Terry Waterhouse. 274 00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:41,440 Then we were invited to a meeting last Thursday at Surrey City Hall for 275 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:49,840 for the start of the Surrey Homelessness Prevention and Response Plan. 276 00:19:51,340 --> 00:19:57,880 One of the funding programs Surrey has in here is the Federal Housing Accelerator one, 277 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:05,140 and I was pleased to see it's on tonight's agenda for this council, as it has funding 278 00:20:05,140 --> 00:20:12,040 for 100,000 units over five years, including emergency and support of housing. 279 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:20,140 Please note that we are grateful for what White Rock has already done, particularly by 280 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:24,580 securing the grant for the daytime warming center located in the trailer. 281 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:32,900 In 2021, when Kathy Booth and I came before this council and asked for such a shelter, 282 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:39,800 we were told it was impossible. We came back in 22 with the same request and that council, 283 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:47,700 including Mr. Tessney, I think Mr. Tavellian is this year and Mr. Christensen. 284 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:56,080 They had the courage and creativity to say they would make it happen, a daytime warming shelter, 285 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:03,980 And it did for six weeks, and then with the grant applied for and received, it became 286 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:07,480 a reality for the whole last winter season. 287 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,140 There was some financial support from Siri, but quite frankly, it was what I said, the 288 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:21,720 courage and creativity of White Rock that allowed for the saving of lives by initiating the warming 289 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:29,960 shelter. That and the choice of engaged communities led by Mr. Upcar Singh Tatle, who 290 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:36,240 is here tonight. We also acknowledged the important cooling room and the misting tent 291 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:44,620 offered last summer and this one. We are here today with two concerns. Number one, 292 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,280 for the past 15 years, the faith communities on the peninsula have hosted the nighttime 293 00:21:50,280 --> 00:22:00,040 time site for the extreme weather. As of today, there is no site for that this winter. 294 00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:05,460 The first time this has happened in the history of an extreme weather shelter on the peninsula. 295 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:13,540 The nearest site would be Cloverdale, and it was already overbooked often last season. 296 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:16,680 And it's also very challenging to get there from 297 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,120 Socery White Rock, especially late on a cold night. 298 00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:24,280 A peninsula site is urgently needed. 299 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:29,400 And just to give you some information about the nighttime shelter, 300 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,240 it was held Mount Olive, New Thrun Church, and briefly 301 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,680 promised park this last winter. 302 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,220 There were 25 mats on the floor. 303 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:47,660 The mats were a bed for 3,254 people. 304 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:50,480 It was their safe place in the winter. 305 00:22:54,980 --> 00:23:06,360 We averaged 24 guests a night for 20 nights, the were 30 to 40 guests and for 6 nights 306 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:10,100 there were more than 40 and that was in the hall of a church. 307 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:14,620 We don't have, it was a bandaid and we don't even have that for this year. 308 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,100 What we do have is folks like we have here that we will be the volunteers, we'll bring 309 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:23,840 clothing, we'll bring food, but we need the site. 310 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:29,360 The second is that there is no year round support of housing on the peninsula. 311 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:37,380 None in White Rock, and we are the only area in Surrey that does not have a year-round supportive shelter. 312 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:44,620 We need this and quote-unquote from the White Rock Housing Report of 2021. 313 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:52,640 This is the time, opportunity to implement homelessness prevention strategies before it becomes a management. 314 00:23:52,640 --> 00:24:00,820 I'll let you go over the five minutes, but I appreciate you coming forward and that with that the group that you're working with 315 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:09,500 We are a collection of individuals. You're just individuals. You're not working with any of the faith-based organizations 316 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:14,520 We represent some of us are from faith-based and some of us not okay. We are people 317 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:22,360 Citizens of the peninsula who are concerned for the unhoused and mount all of this not offering that again 318 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:27,720 Correct. Is there a reason for that? Yes. And what is that? Can you tell me? 319 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:40,620 We reached over capacity and had up to 40 or more people in a church hall. 320 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:46,580 Okay. It was not that close to transportation. There were many reasons, but they had already 321 00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:50,100 done. This was their second season to offer. 322 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,400 Well, I am trying to work with the City of Surrey, and I've been having meetings with 323 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,000 the mayor there because they have a lot more resources than we do. And I know that the 324 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,400 UBCM grant isn't available this year. There's no funding at this point. We don't know yet, 325 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,700 but as far as it is, there's no funds there. So, I know our CAO, Mr. Ferrero, is working 326 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:18,580 with Surrey's CAO also. So we are there are there any questions of council for the delegation. 327 00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:19,760 Councillor Klausen. 328 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:28,640 Through the mayor. Thank you so much for your presentation. Rest assured 329 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:37,380 that all of us on council are equally as concerned as you are about the issue that you're bringing 330 00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:44,360 forward and we are pursuing options as a city. 331 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,480 At this point, as the mayor said, there 332 00:25:50,690 --> 00:25:56,080 is no grant available yet, but that doesn't mean that we're not continuing to look for 333 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:06,400 other sources. And I would like to feel that we as a community will come together somehow, 334 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,540 now and we will figure something out for this winter. 335 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,920 That's my concern and my commitment 336 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,160 to you that we will continue to look for options. 337 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,780 Thank you. 338 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:20,860 Anyone else? 339 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:21,880 Thank you. 340 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Not seeing any. 341 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:23,320 Thank you, Chair. 342 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:30,100 And I would like to say that we look forward to hearing from council for any way that we can 343 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:31,180 be of assistance. 344 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:31,780 Great. 345 00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:32,720 Thank you very much. 346 00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:33,540 Thank you. 347 00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:42,200 Okay, we're going to move on now. We've got a corporate report on the warming 348 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,160 center summary from Miss Berry. 349 00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:50,000 Thank you, Moon 8. Just briefly, this is 350 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,820 intended to provide an overview of the operations of the daytime warming 351 00:26:54,820 --> 00:27:00,100 center from this past winter season. So essentially in September, Council 352 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:03,700 did authorize the awarding of a contract for services to engage communities 353 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:08,320 Canada society, the operator, and they are here just after my presentation to 354 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:17,140 also present on the center. Briefly it operated from November 9th through to March 31st. 355 00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:22,420 There was a small period of closure because it had initially opened to operate based 356 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:27,740 on weather conditions that felt like zero or were zero or below and then Council directed 357 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:32,960 that the warming center be open regardless of those weather conditions for the winter season. 358 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:40,320 It operated as expected, it served a regular population and it was quite busy throughout 359 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,580 that period of time. 360 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:48,460 We did experience a very cold snap in particular which did create some facility challenges 361 00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:54,620 for us in particular related to pipes freezing, snow load on the trailer. 362 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,540 So there was some water pieces we had to manage from a facility's perspective and that was 363 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:01,200 all resolved. 364 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,340 So there were some additional costs that came into play related to the water issues that 365 00:28:06,340 --> 00:28:06,680 we had. 366 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:09,780 However, they all did fall within the overall approved budget. 367 00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:16,060 We did receive very few complaints from a by-law enforcement perspective, but I would 368 00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:21,900 also note that both the RCMP and by-law enforcement staff did up their patrols, and the operator 369 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:27,360 worked very closely with us to make sure that any concerns that we raised were rectified 370 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,400 as soon as possible. 371 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:34,080 So with that, if there's any questions for me, I'm happy to answer them if not, Mr. 372 00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:37,380 upcarsting Tatley is here as well and has a presentation for Council. 373 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:38,140 Okay, thank you. 374 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,380 Any questions for Ms. Berry? 375 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:44,160 No, I'm not seeing any, so if you'd like to come forward, please. 376 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,140 Thanks. 377 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,520 Thank you, Mayor and Council. 378 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:05,580 My name is upcarsting Tatley, resident of Celse Surrey, I will gloss over any further 379 00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:08,460 by all of myself and carry on with the organization. 380 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:10,660 Engaged communities can to society. 381 00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:12,980 We've been in operation for, I say a decade, 382 00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:14,320 but it's actually been 13 years. 383 00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:17,720 Our primary operation back then was to provide 384 00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:21,680 healthcare initiatives, addressing gaps in healthcare delivery 385 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,840 to communities throughout British Columbia 386 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,200 and lower mainland specifically, 387 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,760 specific to marginalized communities, 388 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,800 women facing distress, gender-based violence, 389 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,380 and providing access to sport and activities for youth as well. 390 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,260 Through the provision of these services, we quickly learned of other challenges in communities, 391 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:48,440 and that led to the expansion of services that included what we will talk about today, including shelters. 392 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,720 We recognized that throughout British Columbia, there was a huge gap in service delivery, 393 00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:54,840 and that's really when we got into this work. 394 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,560 other parts of our work, specifically here in cell-story white rock, including 395 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,340 We're working alongside PeaceArch Hospital Foundation on health initiatives. These include hygiene projects, fresh food. We have a community garden plot that provided fresh food throughout the pandemic to people delivering directly to their homes, who couldn't leave, whether they were seniors or they were limited by mobility challenges. In addition to that, we also run a mobile health unit. The mobile health unit is something that's been featured widely and is now expanded to other municipalities. 396 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:31,600 through the auspices of the Ministry of Health 397 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,840 and includes nurses from the local health authority, 398 00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:38,460 counselors, and many services that otherwise people 399 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:39,900 just could not have access to. 400 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:43,520 However, we're here to talk about the services, 401 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 as mentioned earlier, the extreme weather response 402 00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:48,400 in this region. 403 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:51,040 The first iteration of this was at 404 00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:55,740 had occurred in a church at sunny sign, 405 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,020 and that's really when we got a good understanding 406 00:30:58,020 --> 00:31:03,520 of the challenges that lay before us in terms of demographics, individuals, and a sheer number of 407 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,340 people who needed the support. I think it's been shared with you how successful the model was 408 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:17,980 subsequently at Centennial Park, and that also coincided with many of our cooling sites that we 409 00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:22,480 operated throughout the summer, specifically during the heat dome, as you all recall, we had a very 410 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:29,420 hot summer a couple years ago, a couple years ago, and that operated in Fraser Valley in 411 00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:35,560 Delta, in Surrey in the downtown east side, and last year here in the city of White Rock as well. 412 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,360 And these were ancillary services to handle emerging trends that we were starting to see. 413 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:51,190 That leads us to the daytime warming center. This site and the work that was done here 414 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:57,630 is really predicated on a body of work that extends back a few years and really what 415 00:31:57,630 --> 00:32:03,510 we've seen over time is that the needs have greatly increased in this region. I 416 00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:07,170 think obviously by showing of individuals who've shown up here today who 417 00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:13,890 represent community, people do have an understanding of the profound need that 418 00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:19,450 exists on the peninsula. As mentioned we were at times we were standing 419 00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:24,070 room only but we had to adhere to the bylaws as well as the permissions we 420 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:28,970 received from White Rock Fire Service. So we tried to accommodate people the best 421 00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:33,430 we could. Many of you who were called the coldest, some of the coldest nights we 422 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:37,490 had this year as well as snowstorm that ended up barricading many people to their 423 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:41,190 homes. We had a bus stranded on the street as well that prohibited people from 424 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:46,150 entering the shelter site itself. And we're really thankful to city staff for 425 00:32:46,150 --> 00:32:51,690 coming in and saving the day on many occasions, removing the snow, bringing out their shovels, 426 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:53,150 making sure that people had access. 427 00:32:53,970 --> 00:32:58,990 And once those pathways were cleared and open, we've never seen numbers like this in any, 428 00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:01,930 and I mentioned earlier, we have operated sites elsewhere. 429 00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:07,410 The numbers here on the peninsula, White Rock and Surrey were astronomical during those cold 430 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:13,850 days and you can see some of the numbers share there with you, I'll just carry on. 431 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:24,050 So, some of the services that were rendered, there's numerous needs that exist in community. 432 00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:29,630 Our shelter provided services, and these are some of the things that we notice over 433 00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:31,170 time have changed significantly. 434 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:36,130 There's a huge uptick in the number of seniors who are utilizing our services. 435 00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:39,950 We have not seen the number of seniors that we had this past season. 436 00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:46,150 In addition to that, women who were facing gender-based violence or fleeing violence, we saw 437 00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:49,130 a huge number of increase in that population as well. 438 00:33:49,690 --> 00:33:55,650 As well as youth who had either timed out or no longer fit within the foster system, they 439 00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:57,430 just aged out and they had no place to go. 440 00:33:57,910 --> 00:33:58,970 That was another demographic. 441 00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:04,250 As well we had a significant number of people who were facing what is quote unquote, renavictions, 442 00:34:04,790 --> 00:34:06,250 people who were turned out of their homes. 443 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:13,710 as well as the consistent, sad reality of people who are facing hospital discharges. 444 00:34:14,450 --> 00:34:17,710 You have no other interim place to be while their lives are being sorted out 445 00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:19,450 so they would find themselves at the shelter. 446 00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:24,750 This is in addition to a population also who's facing challenges around mental health 447 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:25,650 and addiction as well. 448 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:31,350 So you can see there it's a hugely dynamic, diverse population with numerous challenges 449 00:34:31,350 --> 00:34:34,290 and that's why our services had to be rendered in the way they were. 450 00:34:34,290 --> 00:34:42,850 This includes basic needs and supports, overdose response and crisis intervention by working closely with our nurses from Fraser Health. 451 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:46,450 We had doctors on site, that was the first time that's been accomplished. 452 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:51,590 We worked closely with the Division of Family Practice to ensure that we had nurses and doctors on site. 453 00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:57,910 We had wound care again with Fraser Health, counselors through moving forward counseling services. 454 00:34:57,910 --> 00:35:02,970 So, we really put a lot into the hopper to make sure that we were able to handle a lot of the 455 00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:09,310 dynamic challenges that were presented. I mentioned some of the close collaborators, 456 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:15,370 Fraser Health, Division of Family Practice, working closely with the Ministry of Social Development 457 00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:20,990 and Poverty Reduction, as well as moving forward counseling services. I want to highlight working 458 00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:24,650 with the provincial government on this project. We were able to, for the first time, 459 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:30,310 across the province here in the city of White Rock incorporate a ministry worker into the site 460 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:35,050 to ensure that people were having access to income assistance and any other assistance that 461 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:39,770 could be provided or rendered from the provincial government. They were there on a consistent basis 462 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:45,910 as well as weekly visits from the nurses from Fraser Health through their iHeart project 463 00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:52,170 and then our local division of family practice having a GP on site and again for the first time 464 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:59,770 being able to provide requisitions or prescriptions for individuals who haven't seen a doctor for numerous years. 465 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:16,060 So, really what we've seen through this project and those who work at the grassroots level will understand this. 466 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:23,940 What this has really done is brought community together and that's really what's required when you, as I mentioned earlier, 467 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,760 there's just so many challenges associated with this work and it cannot be accomplished and alone, 468 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,220 not with one agency, not with one individual, but it really takes all hands on deck to accomplish this. 469 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:42,260 We were very grateful for the outpouring of compassion, empathy, and understanding that we saw from 470 00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:49,760 community. That led to not only donations, but support, vocal support, but also the liaising with 471 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,260 individuals who were staying at the shelter site. We had numerous people from the public who would 472 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:57,120 show up just to have conversations with a senior 473 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,460 who had mobility challenges. 474 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,320 Youth, we were able to connect to youth 475 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,660 who had aged out of foster care 476 00:37:03,220 --> 00:37:05,940 with a member of the local worship community 477 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:08,200 who he was then able to start attending church 478 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,700 and have better results in his life. 479 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:12,640 We had actually recognized an individual 480 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360 who joined us at the shelter last year 481 00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:17,760 representing Realtors Association. 482 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,200 We have close contact with Realtors Association. 483 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,740 In fact, a whole group has galvanized members 484 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:29,940 of the public around this very service and continue in dialogue and wondering how we 485 00:37:29,940 --> 00:37:32,460 can provide this service in the future and what can be done. 486 00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:40,650 Just to quickly highlight some responses, we had numerous responses on how this space 487 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:42,050 has been helpful to individuals. 488 00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:46,570 You can read there, someone says here, having this space was like having a safe place with 489 00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:49,850 no judgment of why I was in need of a place like this. 490 00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:52,590 It only saved my life physically, but it saved my soul. 491 00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:57,410 I'll let you read the others, but the individual highlighted there in the middle is a shelter 492 00:37:57,410 --> 00:38:02,950 guest who's been alone and unsheltered on the peninsula for over 15 years, faced challenges 493 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:09,390 finding housing, endured significant violence and discrimination there by increasing his vulnerability. 494 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:14,510 In fact, there was things that were done and said to him on my watch that I had to witness 495 00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:15,210 initially. 496 00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:18,410 It was them that we decided we had to do something very quickly. 497 00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:35,710 we secured in permanent and culturally appropriate housing for him. Unfortunately, that is not available here, so it isn't Vancouver, but he was able to get help moving into this site, and he's doing much better now, and again, another benefit of having the site. 498 00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:44,850 Moving forward, I think I'll leave this in Expert Tans, Merrant Council. There are many opportunities here. 499 00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:48,210 the work that has been done here is significant. 500 00:38:49,070 --> 00:38:52,010 The structure, the ability for the structure 501 00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:56,150 to be set up, taken down, is actually something that I have 502 00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:58,070 spoken to the Ministry of Housing. 503 00:38:58,810 --> 00:39:02,390 And the Minister about it served as a wonderful example. 504 00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:06,070 The project that has now really two and a half years in the making 505 00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:08,870 is something that is serving as a model across the region. 506 00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:13,350 So I want to applaud you all for the work and support on that as well. 507 00:39:14,910 --> 00:39:18,770 most significantly and I think this is what's most important to me and I mentioned it earlier 508 00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:23,250 is that this could not be accomplished without support. You can see the number of individuals who 509 00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:28,450 really came to our organizations and stakeholders that came together to really accomplish this goal. 510 00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:35,450 The city team and their unflinching support throughout from everyone down at the arena here at City Hall 511 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:43,290 and Barry and her team. Bylaws, I think it was mentioned that bylaws, White Rock or RCMP, 512 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:47,230 they were able to fluidly adjust their visits to our site based on need, 513 00:39:47,290 --> 00:39:53,330 and that's a fluid conversation and dialogue we were able to sustain with them over a very tough period of time. 514 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:58,850 You can understand, given the challenges I described earlier, this is not easy to do, this work, 515 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:04,050 there's extreme variables. In fact, I'd argue that the variables that we're dealing with during this time 516 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:08,870 are unseen anywhere else and it's through this support that we were able to 517 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:14,490 accomplish this. I just want to highlight sources, the self-story white rock 518 00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:18,830 chamber of commerce. We had numerous businesses who showed up providing donations 519 00:40:18,830 --> 00:40:23,970 wanting to speak to individuals as well, the local rotary. We had community 520 00:40:23,970 --> 00:40:29,790 champions. You just heard from one Cheryl, Cheryl, Lake Lauer earlier as well as 521 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:32,650 PH2H, the RCMP I mentioned too. 522 00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:36,730 So numerous supports that really came together to get this done. 523 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:41,110 But if I can offer one last thing of gratitude in closing, 524 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:46,530 it's that this really is something that requires thank you. 525 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:49,710 And it's thank you not on behalf of someone who lives out here, 526 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:52,010 but or someone who leads an organization. 527 00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:54,850 But it's on behalf of the individuals who really don't have a voice. 528 00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:58,370 And on behalf of all those lives that were saved, 529 00:40:58,370 --> 00:40:59,870 Thank you, Mayor and Council. 530 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:03,770 Thank you, and appreciate all your hard work. 531 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:12,190 Council, do you have any questions for Mr. Tatley? 532 00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:14,430 Not saying any. 533 00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:15,710 Thank you so much. 534 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:19,230 Okay, I'll take a motion to receive, please. 535 00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:19,830 Move received. 536 00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:22,070 Discussion? 537 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:23,350 Seeing none, all those in favor? 538 00:41:24,430 --> 00:41:24,830 Opposed? 539 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:25,410 Carried. 540 00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:28,830 Okay, we're going to move on to the Federal Housing Accelerator Fund 541 00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:31,990 Application Requirements, and that's over to you, Ms. Berry. 542 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:38,390 very. Thank you, Mayor Nate. So it's a rather lengthy report before Council, so I won't 543 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:48,310 go through all of the details in it. Thank you. You're welcome. So essentially in 2022, 544 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:54,350 the federal government announced that they would be putting forward $4 billion that municipalities 545 00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:59,270 across the country, local governments across the country could apply for in order to increase 546 00:41:59,270 --> 00:42:10,150 housing a country-wide essentially. So at the time that this report was drafted the application 547 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:14,690 portal for the Housing Accelerator Fund had actually not yet opened, but it did in fact 548 00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:20,390 open right after the report was submitted. So it opened last week and it is going to be 549 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:26,190 open for a period of I believe it's 45 days. It's open until mid-August. So it's not a very large window 550 00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:30,850 of time to put together an application. So this report is really intended to provide 551 00:42:30,850 --> 00:42:36,510 counsel with information on what an application would entail and also to highlight some 552 00:42:36,510 --> 00:42:41,530 of the commitments that counsel would then and the city would then need to be obligated 553 00:42:41,530 --> 00:42:48,190 to make if we were successful in receiving a grant from the from C-MHC. 554 00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:55,450 So I've summarized in the report the application criteria. One of those is that the city would 555 00:42:55,450 --> 00:43:01,790 need to develop an action plan that sets out how seven of the prescribed initiatives that 556 00:43:01,790 --> 00:43:07,570 the same HC has laid out will be achieved. So I've identified all 25 of the actions that 557 00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:13,470 they had listed and provided a little bit of commentary underneath each so that Council's 558 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:18,190 aware of how this may impact the city or may be impacted by some of the work that's already 559 00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:22,450 ongoing or how it relates to the city at any rate at this point in time. 560 00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:29,970 So, Council would need to select seven of those and would need to be able to commit 561 00:43:29,970 --> 00:43:36,550 to completing those seven, if successful in the grant awarding. 562 00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:43,030 In addition to those seven, Council also as a city would need to demonstrate how those 563 00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:46,990 targets are going to increase housing in the community. 564 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:50,670 I think it's about three or four different releases of funds. 565 00:43:53,450 --> 00:44:00,410 So I think what is important to highlight with this is that there are some other criteria 566 00:44:00,410 --> 00:44:05,870 that we don't necessarily have the answers to yet as to what the application is for the 567 00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:08,230 city with respect to submitting an application. 568 00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:14,170 One of those is that we need to in selecting the different action initiatives that the city 569 00:44:14,170 --> 00:44:19,630 be taking those seven from the list of 25. We need to be able to confirm that we have 570 00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:24,490 the resources in the capacity and the expertise and authority that would be needed in order 571 00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:29,850 to implement those. They're all supposed to be new initiatives, so not initiatives 572 00:44:29,850 --> 00:44:35,650 that we've already started. So getting a better understanding of what new means would be 573 00:44:35,650 --> 00:44:41,750 part of the ask that we would go back to the CMHC to try to get a feel for. Because there's 574 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:46,770 things on the list that Council is already looking to initiate or are already underway to 575 00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:47,470 a certain degree. 576 00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:53,730 Each initiative has to be accompanied by a justification outlining 577 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:59,970 how the initiative itself is going to increase the provision of housing and the time 578 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,960 But we need to, in selecting the different action initiatives that the city would be taking, those seven from the list of 25. We need to be able to confirm that we have the resources and the capacity and the expertise and authority that would be needed in order to implement those. They're all supposed to be new initiatives, so not initiatives that we've already started. So getting a better understanding of what new means is going to be part of the ask that we would go back to the CMHC to try to get a, you know, a feel for. 579 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,180 because there's things on the list that councils are already looking to initiate or are already 580 00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:36,880 underway to a certain degree. 581 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,500 Each initiative has to be accompanied by 582 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:46,080 a justification outlining how the initiative itself is going to increase 583 00:45:46,730 --> 00:45:52,640 the provision of housing and the timeline for the provision of that housing to speed it up. 584 00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:57,840 And lastly, the application has to be accompanied by an attestation from the city's chief 585 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,660 financial officer on the viability of the plan as well for each of the seven 586 00:46:02,660 --> 00:46:09,280 actions. So we had flagged some considerations and trying to get a better 587 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,360 understanding of the financial impact of the actions and what that means is 588 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,580 definitely one of those that we've flagged as a concern. Again we also need to 589 00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:25,260 understand if the required housing targets are reasonably achievable for the 590 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:31,540 of White Rock given our, you know, the size of our community and just how it fits within 591 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:33,320 the White Rock umbrella. 592 00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:40,600 And then the other thing to note is that if successful in being awarded the grant 593 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,520 should an application be submitted, these were then committing to completing these actions. 594 00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:52,560 So we need to have an understanding as to what the implementation of these actions has 595 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,460 on our resourcing and on our capacity and on some of council's other strategic priorities 596 00:46:57,460 --> 00:47:02,780 that have been identified. So it won't simply be affecting one department. It will be 597 00:47:02,780 --> 00:47:09,600 likely departmentally across the board as far as how these actions will come into play. 598 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:18,620 So that's really the report in a bit of a nutshell. What we are recommending at this time is that 599 00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:24,540 if council should want to pursue an application because of the very tight window and the amount 600 00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:29,640 of work that will be involved in actually preparing the application. We are recommending 601 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:37,300 that council authorize a $15,000 budget so that we can utilize the services of a consultant 602 00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:45,660 in order to prepare the application. And the other recommendation is to direct staff 603 00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:50,720 to identify which strategic and departmental priorities are recommended to be paused in order 604 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,700 to allocate resources towards this project. 605 00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:55,780 Great, thank you, Ms. Berry. 606 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:02,640 I'm supportive of your recommendations, but back to part of your statements there, 607 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:09,940 when they ask us to commit to a housing supply growth target that increases our annual average growth by 10%, 608 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:11,840 what is our annual average growth? 609 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,000 is that over five years or over a couple years, 610 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:17,880 like how do they, do you know in the report? 611 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,740 And then to add to that, it must be at least 1.1%. 612 00:48:21,740 --> 00:48:24,620 So it's clear as much, like what are they asking us? 613 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,400 What numbers? 614 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,500 So the annual would be over the period of time 615 00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:35,880 that the, I think I guess it's a four year window essentially 616 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,180 that we'd be looking at from the project. 617 00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:43,540 So that's the four years that we would be looking at. 618 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:44,720 So starting 2023. 619 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,540 So it would be starting from implementation. 620 00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:50,260 We'd be looking to get that annual, that average annually. 621 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,540 And then the, so that's an overall increase of 10% 622 00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:58,080 and then we need to be demonstrating that we're growing 623 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,940 at least that one point, at least 1.1% every year. 624 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480 They've got a calculator chart actually that they've prepared 625 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,380 to help us with this because it is, it is confusing. 626 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:14,500 And that's, there's a degree of work that will need to go into the preparation of the 627 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:17,920 application so that we can understand if we're able to hit those targets. 628 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:22,840 We have not been able yet to really dig deep into what that looks like at this point 629 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,300 at the staff level, and that would be our recommendation for the consultants that can still look 630 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:27,840 into that. 631 00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:31,920 Because I mean, we also have the regional growth strategy too, so how does this all combine 632 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:33,120 and work? 633 00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:37,580 You know, because I mean, if they say white rock grows by 200 people a year, are they 634 00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:41,780 They're saying we just have to increase 20 to satisfy it? 635 00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:42,340 You know what I mean? 636 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,160 It just, to me, seems so up in the air and, of course, they've given us 45 days over 637 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,680 the summer break to put this all together. 638 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,880 So typical. 639 00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:53,180 But any questions from Council? 640 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,560 Councillor Partridge. 641 00:49:57,300 --> 00:50:00,100 Through your worship to Ms. Barry. 642 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:08,600 I'm actually not in favor of this, because first of all, this is great that the government 643 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,400 is putting forth something to help with housing, but it's very blanket. 644 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,800 It goes across, it's for everybody, regardless of how large your city is. 645 00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:21,840 There's no designation for a small city versus a medium versus population or anything. 646 00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:28,360 I'm concerned about the work and the strategic plans that we already have in place for staff, 647 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:37,320 And this would definitely put them put it back as far as the work this is a lot of work we get we pay the $15,000. 648 00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:45,540 We have the report and now we are married to five years of doing all of these things that they say. 649 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:55,060 And I'm just really concerned that we have our priorities and that has to take the back seat now to this so I'm not in favor of it. 650 00:50:55,060 --> 00:50:55,840 So there you go. 651 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:56,280 Just comment. 652 00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:56,640 Yeah. 653 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,340 Okay. 654 00:50:57,720 --> 00:50:58,300 Anyone else? 655 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:58,980 Councillor Chessney. 656 00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:02,280 On the flip side, I would support this to be very honest. 657 00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:05,640 I think $15,000 will answer a lot of questions for us. 658 00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:10,540 This is council, previous councils have all specified housing, affordable housing, supportive 659 00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:12,460 housing is a very top priority. 660 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,160 $15,000 is a lot of money to most people, but I think in the big picture of things. 661 00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:24,320 If it does push us closer to our goal, we can make that final decision after we receive 662 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,740 the report back from the consultant. 663 00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:31,860 So, I would support the expenditure of $15,000 and to that extent, I'd move recommendations 664 00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:32,920 one, two, and three. 665 00:51:33,380 --> 00:51:33,640 Okay. 666 00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:35,380 Now, the seconder on that? 667 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:36,960 Okay. 668 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,300 Further discussion? 669 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,040 Councillor Chung. 670 00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:44,880 Through the Chair to Ms. Thierry, am I hearing this right, that we spend $15,000. 671 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,960 We don't have to specifically, once we find out the report, we don't really have to apply 672 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,540 for this. 673 00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:55,360 It is a report $15,000 for us to find out what we need, is that right? 674 00:51:55,940 --> 00:51:56,220 That's very. 675 00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:04,220 Through the chair, so the $15,000 would be for the consultant to assist us in the preparation of an application, 676 00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:10,520 to assist us in making recommendations to counsel with regards to the specific actions, 677 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,860 because counsel will need to select seven actions in order to support the application, 678 00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:32,040 to provide counsel with some understanding of the impact of those actions and the understanding of what our growth or dwelling unit, you know, targets might look like based on the actions that are selected as well. 679 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,360 If I may continue. 680 00:52:34,360 --> 00:53:04,340 Let me rephrase it slightly differently what I'm saying is with that consultant also let's say this is not for us would they also then would they say to us okay for your city this size it doesn't make sense for you to apply for this would they or is it like it's going you going in hard through the chair so their their their work would be to assist us in the preparation of an application if it it appeared that it was not appropriate for an application that would be a staff recommend it 681 00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,900 recommendation to council at the time. 682 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:09,900 There would be no obligation to apply at that point, 683 00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:13,600 but again, it is an investment up to that point. 684 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,680 So the consultant will do a report and give it to staff, 685 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,140 and the staff are going to recommend to us, okay? 686 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,240 Anyone else have any questions for Ms. Berry? 687 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,940 Oh, Councillor Taveau, sorry. 688 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,360 Hello, sorry. 689 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,820 Thank you, Mayor. 690 00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:34,800 Yeah, can you hear me okay? 691 00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:35,220 Yes. 692 00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:41,020 Yeah, quite a few questions I have which makes me uncomfortable with supporting this at this time. 693 00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:52,640 For example, which is hard to find $15,000 when I don't even know which 7 of those priorities we're going to use or initiate as we're going to follow. 694 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,640 It's unclear about the growth rate as well as you brought up a mayor. 695 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,100 is that 1.1 or tempsom above existing growth rate 696 00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:02,020 because the OCP is currently is written, 697 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,000 we're having growth in the city. 698 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,220 So the additional growth on top of that, 699 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,240 and then I have no idea how much money 700 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,280 would even qualify for, 701 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,380 and then what we could even use it for. 702 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,600 So for example, is this for a specific project, 703 00:54:14,620 --> 00:54:16,700 if it is for, say, housing for seniors? 704 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,440 That's very interesting, but I don't know. 705 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:22,660 So as I said, it's very nebulous at this point 706 00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:23,880 that it loves to be more concrete 707 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,480 free before I authorize $15,000, so that's my comment. 708 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,700 Okay, thank you, Councillor Chaubelle. 709 00:54:31,580 --> 00:54:32,340 Councillor Chaung. 710 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,540 Through to Chair to Ms. Bair, I have one more question in regards to, if we were to 711 00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:43,240 get the $15,000, would this also pull staff's time away from us catching up on permit process, 712 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,580 you know, applications that's in line to do this work? 713 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,440 Ms. Bair. 714 00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:51,620 Through the Chair, yes, there would be significant staff involvement regardless of a consultant. 715 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,080 Yes. 716 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,840 I'm just going to throw in there to Councillor Chung. 717 00:54:58,340 --> 00:55:04,160 One of our priorities is to do affordable housing and if the government's got $4 billion 718 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080 to throw around Canada, I want to get a chunk of it. 719 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,380 So I will spend $15,000 to find out if we should or shouldn't and we'll make the decision 720 00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:13,960 at that time. 721 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,580 So that's my two cents. 722 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,140 Councillor Clause. 723 00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:22,440 I also would support this project. 724 00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:28,980 I do believe that $15,000 in the grand scheme of renting our city is not a lot of money. 725 00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:39,480 And through the Mayor to Ms. Barry, the 45 days that we'd be hiring a consultant at this 726 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,560 point, that would be the only staff commitment that we would be making. 727 00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:44,220 Is that correct? 728 00:55:45,980 --> 00:55:50,860 Through the chair, no, we would need to begin work with that consultant immediately on 729 00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:55,220 the preparation of an application, because the application itself has to be submitted 730 00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:59,220 within that 45-day window, which is I think it's August 18th is the deadline. 731 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,560 Correct, so that's what I was, that's what I was meaning, sorry, was that after 45 days, 732 00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,720 we would have to make a decision whether to go any further or not. 733 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,180 Through the trip prior to the 45 days. 734 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,840 Which is a tight time frame because with holidays and council break in August, but I mean 735 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,720 that's typical when there's money to be thrown around. 736 00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:24,940 They throw it at you real quick and get your ducks in a row. 737 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,940 Councillor Chung, you've got your light on or you asked me a question. 738 00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:32,120 Not seeing any further? 739 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,360 I'm going to call a question. 740 00:56:33,460 --> 00:56:34,340 Oh, Councillor Chivalin. 741 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,000 Sorry. 742 00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:35,820 Yeah. 743 00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,180 And thank you very much, Mary. 744 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,400 Sorry. 745 00:56:37,580 --> 00:56:38,480 One quick comment. 746 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,680 How, when would we know before I make my vote, when would we know which seven, this question 747 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,700 to me was very, which seven of these action items we would choose? 748 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,740 And I say that's very, very important because some are, I'm completely in agreement with, 749 00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:55,840 for example, encouraging accessory dwelling, so that's fantastic, right? 750 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,200 Other ones I have big questions with, so I, that's my concern. 751 00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:03,840 So when would we decide what are seven action items? 752 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:03,940 Okay. 753 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:05,640 Good question. 754 00:57:05,980 --> 00:57:07,320 Ms. Berry, can you answer that? 755 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,000 So, that's something we would have to report back to Council on. 756 00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:14,440 We'd have to do an assessment of all the actions and determine what is the most appropriate 757 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:22,560 for the city to consider selecting, but also to understand what things that aren't already 758 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:29,940 underway means, because it can be some things that are initiated at the early stage in their 759 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:30,500 initiation. 760 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,280 But, if it's already a project that's half done, I'm not sure that that would apply, 761 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,640 And that's a piece that we need to better understand. 762 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,800 And I will be attending some webinars on this later this week, actually. 763 00:57:41,180 --> 00:57:45,440 So no holidays for you, Councillor or Councillor. 764 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,480 Mr. Ferrell. 765 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,660 Thank you, Horsche. 766 00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:51,600 But I just want to mention that these most likely require a special meeting in Dewey and August. 767 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,980 I don't expect we don't have one more meeting of council in a couple of weeks. 768 00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:58,560 And then we're breaking until the middle of September. 769 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,440 And the application is due on August 18th. 770 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,240 So this will require one, if there's no more minutes of council, to make decisions. 771 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,380 Okay. Councilor Chesney. 772 00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:15,420 Thank you, sir. The chair is a staff. So the federal government gave everybody 45 days or 773 00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:19,680 is this report just not made it up to the top of the heap until very recently? 774 00:58:20,540 --> 00:58:23,560 It just came out, I think. Mr. Fraudino? 775 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,800 This has been going on for a while. However, we just don't have capacity to be able to get to 776 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,820 until today. This is the reality that we have. We have other priorities, Councillor Chessney. 777 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,640 The application window just opened. We didn't know that. And so we thought that we have 778 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,540 a little more time, but unfortunately, there's not the time that we're giving at this time, 779 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,640 so thank you. 780 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800 Okay. Seeing no further discussion, I'm going to call a question. All those in favour? 781 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,260 Opposed? Councillor Partridge and Councillor Tavellian opposed? Motion carries. 782 00:58:58,660 --> 00:58:59,880 Let's move on, Council. 783 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,200 We're going to not 784 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:07,080 throw in anything? 785 00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:07,460 What? 786 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,840 Okay. 787 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,500 You can all escape if you want. 788 00:59:13,420 --> 00:59:13,680 You can go. 789 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:24,290 15570, Oxingham Avenue, by law 2365, this is for completion of final adoption pre-wet 790 00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:24,590 courses. 791 00:59:24,910 --> 00:59:25,370 So, Ms. Berry. 792 00:59:26,170 --> 00:59:26,470 Certainly. 793 00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:27,630 I'll keep this very brief. 794 00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:33,750 This staff report essentially is intended to confirm that all of the conditions of adoption 795 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:37,890 that Council placed on this particular zoning application have now been met. 796 00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:45,210 Third reading was granted in February of 2021, and the conditions that needed to be met 797 00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:50,850 were ensuring that all the engineering requirements and issues were completed, a section 219 covenant 798 00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:56,250 to restrict basement suites was registered on title and demolition of the existing home. 799 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:59,850 So, with the completion of those requirements, a staffer recommend. 800 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,460 pending that council adopt the by-law. Thank you, Ms. Barry. This is just motion to receive. 801 01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:06,940 Move received. 802 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:14,120 Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Opposed? I think we lost Councillor Chavelleon. 803 01:00:16,190 --> 01:00:18,530 You in favor? Yes, no? Yes. 804 01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:22,610 In favor? Okay. Yes. Okay, motion passes. 805 01:00:28,820 --> 01:00:31,260 I'm just waiting for the shut the door so it's not so loud. 806 01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:40,960 Okay. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. Okay. Now we're moving to development variance permit number 453, and this is 15661 Roper Avenue, Ms. Berry. 807 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:51,640 This is the same development variance permit. That was a subject of the presentation earlier this evening, so I won't represent, but if there are questions, I'm happy to answer them. 808 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,060 Okay. Thank you. Council. Do you have a question? 809 01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,060 Move recommendation. Okay. Move receipt. Have a seconder. 810 01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:01,480 All those in favour? 811 01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:02,860 Opposed? 812 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:04,780 Your opposed, Councillor Chavelle? 813 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:05,800 Or your in favour? 814 01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:07,660 In favour. 815 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:08,240 Okay. 816 01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:11,040 Motion passes. 817 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:11,520 Thank you. 818 01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:13,360 Next, we're going to summer events. 819 01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:14,680 Request to serve liquor. 820 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,200 And that's from Mr. Wolgar. 821 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,120 Thank you, Your Worship. 822 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,000 This report details of summer events. 823 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,200 And that have previously been approved. 824 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,320 We've approved a picnic on the pier, 825 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,120 shakutari on the pier, and craft beer festival. 826 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,220 And our request we're seeking council authorization 827 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,000 for them to have a request to serve liquor 828 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,820 at each of these events, and happy to answer any questions. 829 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,300 Thank you, Mr. Wohlgarh. 830 01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:43,180 Just scooting over there. 831 01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:47,100 I had one quick question, and that was just on page 60 832 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,560 under the craft beer festival. 833 01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:53,080 It's got 9 a.m., are they serving alcohol at 9 a.m.? 834 01:01:53,620 --> 01:01:54,560 That's a little early. 835 01:01:57,460 --> 01:01:59,960 Thank you, Your Worship. That's what time they set up in the morning. 836 01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:05,120 Okay, so they're not actually serving alcohol at 90. I can't imagine they get a license for that. 837 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,940 Okay, that was my only question on that. Anyone else? 838 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,560 Councillor Chesney, you're smiling. You'd be there at night? 839 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,140 It's a little late, but I could probably just respond to that. 840 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,280 Okay. Council, I need... 841 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,660 Recommendations one and two can you read them off please for miss Arthur you smooth recommendation number one 842 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,940 Okay, for the receipt you need a folder who then number two, okay, and then 843 01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:36,120 Recommendation number two, please that has picnic on the pier 844 01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:40,500 Charcuterie on the pier and craft beer festival correct, okay, do I have a seconder? 845 01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:43,900 Any discussion seeing none all those in favor? 846 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,860 Opposed carried unanimously 847 01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:52,740 Okay, next we got commemorative sign for the Canadian Forces snowbirds, and that is Mr. 848 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,580 Wohlgar or Mrs. Silver's. 849 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,180 I don't know who's doing that with this rollback. 850 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:56,460 Okay. 851 01:02:56,860 --> 01:02:57,620 Thank you, Rochelle. 852 01:02:58,380 --> 01:03:03,620 The Canadian Forces snowbirds demonstration team first requested the installation of a commemorative 853 01:03:03,620 --> 01:03:08,920 sign in 2021, but a suitable location could not be determined at that time. 854 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,740 The snowbirds are committed to doing another visit and demonstration in White Rock on August 855 01:03:15,740 --> 01:03:21,860 the 8th of this summer. Staff are seeking endorsement for the installation of a commemorative 856 01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:28,140 sign, recognizing the city's longstanding relationship with the Canadian forces, snow 857 01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:30,920 birds, or demonstration team. Happy to answer any questions. 858 01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,660 Thank you, Mr. Wilgart. Councillor Chessley. 859 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:39,040 Thank you, Mr. Wilgart. Two quick questions. Is it the demonstration in August or simply 860 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,600 a fly-by. 861 01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:46,930 Through your worship to Councillor Chasney, we're understanding it's to be more 862 01:03:46,930 --> 01:03:51,230 of a fly-by. Thank you. Second question. Previous Council, 863 01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:55,930 I didn't see anything in this report, but at one point in time, the previous Council was 864 01:03:55,930 --> 01:04:03,950 asked to commit to a plaque that would identify and honor the memory of the snowboard pilot 865 01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:08,230 that was killed in camelops. That's not part of this plaque. Do you have the actual 866 01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:08,570 No wording? 867 01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:17,090 Through your worship to Councillor Chasney, correct, we're not acknowledging the pilot 868 01:04:17,090 --> 01:04:23,170 that passed away, but the specific plaque is on the penics B of the report, and we've 869 01:04:23,170 --> 01:04:27,210 laid out all of the information that would be in that particular plaque. 870 01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:28,110 Thank you. 871 01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:32,230 Okay, I don't see any other questions. 872 01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:37,810 Mr. Woolgar, my question is, why do we choose the promenade and not the peer for this? 873 01:04:37,810 --> 01:04:47,270 Because what I've heard from the snowbirds in my discussions is they use it as a beacon when they're flying by and doing their formations, so that's just wondering why? 874 01:04:48,850 --> 01:04:49,790 Thank you, Worship. 875 01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:56,510 There's many locations that we could have picked down there or recommended down there. 876 01:04:57,150 --> 01:04:59,770 There's a lot of signage on the pier as it is. 877 01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:07,570 We found a location that's right beside the pier and we think it's got a good visibility for the waterfront there. 878 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:15,250 Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no further discussion, we've got a recommendation in front of us council. What's your wish? Move for a combination one and two. 879 01:05:16,050 --> 01:05:31,070 There's three. One, two and three. One, two and three. Second. Any further discussion? Seeing none. All those in favour? Opposed? Carried unanimously. Okay. Next we've got council and committee procedures by law. And this will be Ms. Arthur. 880 01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:36,010 Thank you, Mayor. This corporate report has been brought forward in accordance with Council 881 01:05:36,010 --> 01:05:41,150 direction requesting an amending bylaw for the Council and Committee procedure bylaw 882 01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:46,290 in regard to question and answer period. The proposed bylaw mends question and answer 883 01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:51,770 period going back to being held in person and only having comments and questions regarding 884 01:05:51,770 --> 01:05:58,330 an item that is within the current evening agenda. Staff at this time have also taken the 885 01:05:58,330 --> 01:06:04,030 opportunity to request council to consider moving the agenda publication deadline from 886 01:06:04,030 --> 01:06:09,770 Wednesdays to Thursdays. That's giving the opportunity for when Mary and the CAO review 887 01:06:09,770 --> 01:06:15,250 the draft agenda, it would include the full corporate reports as well. This report is on 888 01:06:15,250 --> 01:06:20,970 the agenda for information purposes with the proposed bylaw 2475 being considered next 889 01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:22,890 It's under item 9.1A. 890 01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:24,730 Thank you, Mr. Arthur. 891 01:06:26,270 --> 01:06:27,170 Motion to receive? 892 01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:28,910 Move the receipt. 893 01:06:29,810 --> 01:06:30,210 Seconder. 894 01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:32,210 Got a seconder? 895 01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:32,630 Second. 896 01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:33,270 OK. 897 01:06:33,950 --> 01:06:34,390 No discussion. 898 01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:35,430 All those in favor? 899 01:06:35,690 --> 01:06:36,170 Oh, sorry. 900 01:06:36,910 --> 01:06:37,430 Councillor Chum. 901 01:06:38,130 --> 01:06:42,190 Through the chair, we had the speakers earlier 902 01:06:42,190 --> 01:06:43,650 on question and answer. 903 01:06:44,370 --> 01:06:45,290 And I understand. 904 01:06:45,590 --> 01:06:48,350 I mean, I agree with the fact that I believe 905 01:06:48,350 --> 01:06:58,050 agenda item should be related to what's on agenda for time management and also for relevance 906 01:06:58,050 --> 01:07:02,910 and purpose. However, hearing the concerns of the public, I think it may be beneficial 907 01:07:02,910 --> 01:07:11,420 to find some sort of middle ground. So what I'm thinking, if I may, is to adopt this, which 908 01:07:11,420 --> 01:07:21,680 Q&A for agenda items, only however, would council be open to a secondary question and answer 909 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,420 period, perhaps at the end of council, where people can come and address their concerns, 910 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:35,180 but there would be strict rules in regards to policies for respectful workplace or things 911 01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:42,200 that, you know, that may be, you know, there's no insults being thrown around. It has to be very controlled, if I may say it that way. 912 01:07:42,580 --> 01:07:49,020 I'm just throwing it out there because, you know, maybe we do a second one. That's my comment, my question, actually. 913 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,120 Councillor Chesney. 914 01:07:52,060 --> 01:07:58,640 I would conclude in a curve with Councillor Chung. I hate to see it go disappear completely and be very honest, 915 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,840 limiting it strictly to the items on the agenda prior to the agenda to make it almost 916 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,820 impossible because if anybody comes and asks about a question on the agenda, the natural 917 01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:13,800 answer would be, well, we'll be discussing that later this evening. So I'd love to 918 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:21,600 see us retain it in its decreased form, but at the very least have it put at the end of 919 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,440 the council meeting. So in that fact, people can actually ask us a question about something 920 01:08:26,440 --> 01:08:28,080 that happened on the agenda that evening. 921 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,380 Okay, Councilor Claesan. 922 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:34,820 Thank you. 923 01:08:35,890 --> 01:08:43,600 I also would prefer that we continue with question and answer period, not necessarily 924 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,600 related to items on the agenda. 925 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:54,220 I do believe that we are elected to be accountable and transparent to the community and I think 926 01:08:54,220 --> 01:09:09,220 I think that this provides a forum for residents to come and express some concerns and I'd hate to see the community use the media for that kind of a forum any more than they already are. 927 01:09:09,220 --> 01:09:18,620 So, I would prefer that we limit the question and answer period to people who attend in person, 928 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:26,500 but I think that it should be related to any talk like that the public would like to talk about. 929 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,540 Okay, thank you. 930 01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:30,760 Councillor Chen. 931 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:37,620 Through the chair to my fellow Councillors. I hear what you're saying, but we have seen abuse 932 01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:42,900 thrown at staff, we've seen abuse thrown at council members, and I don't think that's 933 01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:48,160 appropriate when someone is obviously perhaps angry and they're coming, you know, they haven't 934 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,960 checked their motions, which is unfortunate, and they're saying things that are not appropriate 935 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,740 and it's not respectful workplace. And because we do have staff, general, how would you propose 936 01:09:57,460 --> 01:10:04,360 that we don't have things being slamed at people, let's call that way, or an answer from staff 937 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,140 So then they come to Council hoping for a different response. 938 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,680 My question. 939 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,100 To Councillor Classes, do you want to respond? 940 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,020 You don't have to. 941 01:10:15,230 --> 01:10:21,110 Well, I do believe in a respectful workplace as well, which I think extends to City Councilors. 942 01:10:21,190 --> 01:10:24,630 And I believe in a respectful environment period. 943 01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:32,970 I think that we're reacting to a small amount of incidents that have happened. 944 01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:44,210 and I do think that we can control by monitoring the persons who are speaking at the question 945 01:10:44,210 --> 01:10:54,210 and answer period and we'll just have to strictly enforce the respectful workplace incidents. 946 01:10:55,950 --> 01:10:57,170 Councillor Chesney. 947 01:10:57,950 --> 01:11:02,110 You were, were we discussing 6.2 or were we jumped to 9.1? 948 01:11:03,010 --> 01:11:03,450 628. 949 01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:04,170 628. 950 01:11:05,550 --> 01:11:07,750 So we're basically just receiving for information. 951 01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:08,130 Yes. 952 01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:09,530 The discussion will come later. 953 01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:12,810 Well, she's welcome to discuss. 954 01:11:13,530 --> 01:11:17,330 Well, we have no option here to put forward any motions or vote on anything here. 955 01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:19,850 So really, I just moved the recommendation. 956 01:11:19,850 --> 01:11:21,390 We received 6.2. 957 01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:22,150 Okay. 958 01:11:22,810 --> 01:11:24,390 Are you fine with that, Councillor Chung? 959 01:11:24,650 --> 01:11:24,850 Yes. 960 01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:28,970 Oh, Councillor Travallion, you wanted to say something. 961 01:11:30,370 --> 01:11:31,510 Thank you very much, Mayor. 962 01:11:31,670 --> 01:11:35,370 I did want to, but if we're going to move on, have the debate continue at 9.1A, I can 963 01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:35,550 wait. 964 01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:36,110 Okay. 965 01:11:36,610 --> 01:11:36,790 Okay. 966 01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:38,530 So motion to receive. 967 01:11:38,690 --> 01:11:39,550 Did we do that already? 968 01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:40,930 We did. 969 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:41,290 Okay. 970 01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:42,250 So all those in favour? 971 01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:42,950 Sorry, Mayor. 972 01:11:43,010 --> 01:11:43,570 Yeah, to vote. 973 01:11:44,490 --> 01:11:45,110 Just to vote. 974 01:11:45,570 --> 01:11:45,670 Yes. 975 01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:46,770 All those in favour? 976 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:47,850 Opposed? 977 01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:48,870 Carried unanimously. 978 01:11:49,690 --> 01:11:49,930 Okay. 979 01:11:50,090 --> 01:11:51,370 So we'll move down to bylaws. 980 01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:53,470 So now we are at 9.1A. 981 01:11:53,470 --> 01:11:56,550 Okay, by-law 2475, Council and committee procedure by-law. 982 01:11:58,590 --> 01:12:00,310 This is for first, second and third reading. 983 01:12:01,790 --> 01:12:03,130 Now, do you want to have more discussion? 984 01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:04,610 No. 985 01:12:04,970 --> 01:12:07,350 I think somebody has to move the recommendation first, don't they? 986 01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:07,950 No. 987 01:12:08,450 --> 01:12:08,630 No. 988 01:12:09,490 --> 01:12:11,170 Do you want to move first, second and third, someone? 989 01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:12,650 Move our recommendation. 990 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:13,150 Okay. 991 01:12:13,230 --> 01:12:13,790 Do you have a seconder? 992 01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:14,350 Second. 993 01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:14,990 Okay. 994 01:12:15,390 --> 01:12:15,730 Discussion? 995 01:12:17,170 --> 01:12:17,770 Councilor Chessy. 996 01:12:18,530 --> 01:12:21,950 Yes, I can't possibly support this. 997 01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:24,010 I think the points have been made very clear. 998 01:12:24,170 --> 01:12:29,130 We did have some isolated incidents in the many years that I've been here on council. 999 01:12:29,290 --> 01:12:32,050 I don't think it's it's been abused as a matter of fact. 1000 01:12:32,150 --> 01:12:34,510 I'd like to see more engagement by our community. 1001 01:12:34,510 --> 01:12:36,490 It's a wonderful opportunity. 1002 01:12:36,650 --> 01:12:37,950 It's right at the beginning of council. 1003 01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:39,970 You don't have to sit through the entire council meeting. 1004 01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:44,630 I don't think we should throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water. 1005 01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:48,530 It's an opportunity for the community to come and speak to us. 1006 01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:52,770 There have been some instances as Councillor Chung identified. 1007 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:57,830 I think, unfortunately, it comes back to the power of the chair, Mayor, and you may have 1008 01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:59,490 to rule with an iron fist. 1009 01:13:00,310 --> 01:13:04,810 But I really think we should continue on with question and answer period. 1010 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:11,070 So, if there is a separate motion, it will come at a different time. 1011 01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:17,530 If it votes tonight, just limited to the agenda, but I won't be voting for it as it sits 1012 01:13:17,530 --> 01:13:18,070 here right now. 1013 01:13:18,210 --> 01:13:18,590 Thank you. 1014 01:13:18,990 --> 01:13:20,070 Councillor Chavellum. 1015 01:13:21,190 --> 01:13:22,190 Thank you very much, Mayor. 1016 01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:27,350 I don't really know why we're having this debate again because we had this vote not long 1017 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:27,650 ago. 1018 01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:33,510 I completely agree with the points that Mr. Petrallo made earlier on in Councillor Chesney. 1019 01:13:33,950 --> 01:13:37,410 We want to encourage the public to contribute to discussion in their city. 1020 01:13:37,870 --> 01:13:43,970 And it really is only half an hour a month at worst if it's, you're bradded that way. 1021 01:13:44,250 --> 01:13:48,090 Sometimes people don't even, it can come at all to count, question and answer if you're 1022 01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:48,430 at it all. 1023 01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:49,590 Something to go very quickly. 1024 01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:51,710 So, it's a very sharp period of time. 1025 01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:58,790 I support the idea of asking residents not to complain about specific staff members or specific 1026 01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:59,610 staff positions. 1027 01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:03,730 But it's such an integral part of a functioning democracy that people can come before their 1028 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:06,410 council and share their thoughts and views. 1029 01:14:06,410 --> 01:14:09,150 So as it is, IE2 cannot support it. 1030 01:14:09,670 --> 01:14:09,970 Thank you. 1031 01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:10,530 Okay. 1032 01:14:10,830 --> 01:14:11,310 Thank you, Councillor. 1033 01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:12,490 Councillor Partridge. 1034 01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:16,190 Through the Chair. 1035 01:14:16,990 --> 01:14:17,570 To everybody. 1036 01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:25,650 I was the one who proposed this and we and White Rock actually is not the only city having 1037 01:14:25,650 --> 01:14:27,610 issues with question and answer period. 1038 01:14:28,830 --> 01:14:34,330 Like I said initially when I put it out there, there was a survey compiled of Metro Vancouver 1039 01:14:34,330 --> 01:14:41,590 municipalities for 5,000 residents, 81.25% have no Q&A or agenda items only, 50% of 1040 01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:48,230 municipalities have agenda only and 3, 31.25 have no Q&A. And the reason that is happening 1041 01:14:48,230 --> 01:14:50,350 is because of the abuse. 1042 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,600 The use of the process of the Q&A opportunity. It's wonderful to hear it from the community, absolutely, but unfortunately, not only in our community, but others as well. It's being taken advantage of to belittle, criticize staff or council. And it's sad because that's not the purpose of it. I would love to hear what's happening in the community, but unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening. A council meeting is not a forum for 1043 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,460 criticism or to get a different response that they got from staff, which seems to be happening 1044 01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:39,860 over and over again at all of our Q&As. I'm not suggesting that we prevent members of the 1045 01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:45,640 public from providing their suggestions or criticisms or hearing them, but it is about the proper 1046 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:54,100 avenue of it. You can still send emails to counsel to staff, written correspondence. If you want 1047 01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:59,040 to have a meeting with any of the counselors or the mayor, you can definitely do that. You can sign 1048 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:06,160 up as a delegation. Do a PowerPoint presentation. You know, you can use the request services. Nobody's 1049 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:14,520 taking away anything. We are just streamlining the process in doing council business. So that's why 1050 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:22,180 I put it forth. If it was an avenue where it was working where Q&A came, you know, we heard new ideas 1051 01:16:22,180 --> 01:16:29,480 or things from the community, great, but what I'm witnessing is just a chance for the 1052 01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:36,040 community to not be very nice to staff because they haven't received the answer that they 1053 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:41,900 wanted, because the staff is just doing their job adhering to the bylaws. So that's why 1054 01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:45,020 I put this forth, and so I stand behind it. 1055 01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:46,940 Thank you, Councillor Partridge. 1056 01:16:46,940 --> 01:16:49,260 Anyone else? Councillor Chai? 1057 01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:55,380 Through the Chair, the Councillor Partridge, would you consider postponing this and seeing 1058 01:16:55,380 --> 01:17:02,580 if, let's say, we can control them with the Chair being more strict as per Councillor 1059 01:17:02,580 --> 01:17:06,800 Chessney said, being more strict, if there's anything that they say, you know, staff didn't 1060 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:12,620 answer as we, like, stop right there. Or if there's a name being thrown, stop right there. 1061 01:17:12,620 --> 01:17:18,240 Or if you know to try that because the number one concern is abuse and I hear what you're saying 1062 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:23,600 I've seen it too right but at the same time you know the public also wants to speak but if they're not 1063 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:31,740 We're behaving a certain way. I think we should be able to stop it right cut it so I'm just suggesting you don't have to 1064 01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:33,660 postponing it perhaps for 1065 01:17:34,180 --> 01:17:38,120 You know give it one more Q&A and see what happens and see if we can stop it 1066 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,920 I'm just suggesting I'm going to jump in on this one because 1067 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:46,100 As you say, rule with an iron fist, the words are already out of the mouth. 1068 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:48,020 By the time I can stop them. 1069 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:56,140 So either that's upset staff or a council member or, you know, whoever, if it comes out, 1070 01:17:56,620 --> 01:17:57,800 I can't stop that. 1071 01:17:58,180 --> 01:18:03,060 I can go, hey, you need to stop now or you need to leave the building, but it's already 1072 01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:03,360 out. 1073 01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:07,140 So, I don't agree, I agree with Councillor Partridge. 1074 01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:09,780 Most of the points, the only thing you missed was phones. 1075 01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:13,620 We have cell phones, and I have a city, you know, landline too. 1076 01:18:15,020 --> 01:18:20,260 So I think what you're trying to do, Councillor Chang, is just add to it. 1077 01:18:20,380 --> 01:18:25,380 You want to do agenda items only, but at the end, question and answer. 1078 01:18:25,540 --> 01:18:31,080 So you're just giving it more, either stick with what we have, or go with what's on here. 1079 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,580 I mean, because to me, it just doesn't seem like you're trying to accomplish, right? 1080 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:36,680 Councillor Chesney. 1081 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,240 Thank you, Your Worship. Just in closing, I'll say in nine years I have been criticized. I have been 1082 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,040 demeaned at question and answer period and I knew coming into this room. I better have them 1083 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:52,560 thick skin. As far as staff being attacked, I don't agree with that. It's been a very isolated 1084 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,020 case. And as I say, I just don't want to see the baby thrown out with the bath water. 1085 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:06,060 Your Worship. Mr. Ferrell. Yeah, thank you very much. I'm just going to put on the fact that this is 1086 01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:10,580 just need this happen quite a bit, and you don't hear the comments from 1087 01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:12,120 the staff. I do every day after the 1088 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,340 consummating. This council is very supportive of the staff, and this is what I've 1089 01:19:16,340 --> 01:19:20,480 been here since day one. So please do that. This is not an avenue to come and 1090 01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:24,040 create that stuff. Even today you have two members of the public who came and 1091 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,540 didn't get the answer they wanted from the staff and they came to the 1092 01:19:26,540 --> 01:19:29,960 council meeting to create that stuff. And that's exactly what we're trying to do. 1093 01:19:30,740 --> 01:19:34,700 So if you want to support staff, this is your chance to support staff. If you don't 1094 01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:37,700 I want to support staff, move on and put a status quo. 1095 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,280 Thank you, Mr. Ferro. 1096 01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:45,480 Councillor Klaasin, sorry we don't take anything from the floor now. 1097 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,800 I'm sorry I do have to respectfully disagree with that. 1098 01:19:53,820 --> 01:20:01,260 I support the staff fully, I may disagree with the staff at some point. 1099 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:04,260 I may disagree with the public at some point. 1100 01:20:04,260 --> 01:20:11,500 But in my own business, I also have people who sometimes disagree with me, and I just 1101 01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,380 think that's the nature of the workplace. 1102 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:20,840 I completely respect a respectful workplace, and as I said before, it would be ideal if 1103 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:27,540 we had a respectful world environment where there was never any criticism, but we are dealing 1104 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:32,360 with reality, and that's not reality, otherwise we'd have world peace. 1105 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:50,140 I just believe that half an hour a month is not a lot of time to allow the public to voice their opinion and yes, we need to put strict rules around it and hopefully the public would respect those rules. 1106 01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:55,740 Okay. Councilor Chesney, then I'm going to call the question. 1107 01:20:56,120 --> 01:21:01,760 Thank you very much. Through the Chair to Mr. Ferreiro, I disagree strongly with you 1108 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:08,000 by inferring that by staying the course, it's not respectful to staff. I think every single 1109 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,840 person on this council respects the efforts of the staff. 1110 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,700 So I really take exception with 1111 01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:17,180 that comment. 1112 01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:21,540 Okay, thank you. Again, let's move forward. I'm going to call the question. 1113 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:27,340 Oh, sorry. Do you have something to add Councillor Tavellian? 1114 01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:32,040 I was going to add on as well, but I think we're going to move on. Thank you very much, Mayor. 1115 01:21:33,260 --> 01:21:39,020 I just want to add to that as well. In my day job, criticism as a teacher comes to the territory as well. 1116 01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:44,300 I mean, I can't imagine facing a rule that says parents can't criticize me or students can't 1117 01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:49,640 criticized me. That's the nature of many of the jobs that we do. And we all know in 1118 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:55,820 public sector that this is, as someone else said, a place for a thick skin, especially 1119 01:21:55,820 --> 01:21:59,120 for counsel. And I think maybe we could look at in the future, we'll see all those 1120 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:05,300 vocals, having a preamble before Q&A period where our residents are asked not to refer to 1121 01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:08,760 staff. I mean, I'm fine with that. I said that from the beginning. We can have the preamble 1122 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:14,000 to say be respectful. Don't refer to staff members. Make your point. And then I understand 1123 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,560 your point where I can believe you do, cut them off when they go beyond that rule we set out for them. 1124 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,040 But fundamentally people need to be able to come before their council and have their 1125 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:28,800 two cents and share their concerns. Thank you very much. Thank you Councillor Chabellan 1126 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:33,560 and I think people can contact us in a lot of ways. Okay, I'm calling a question. 1127 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:41,680 All is in favor? Opposed? Okay, so motion fails. I've got Councillor Lawrence, 1128 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,700 Conference, Councilor class and Councilor Chesney and Councilor Chavellian. 1129 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:47,240 Okay, let's move on. 1130 01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:51,280 Bylaw 2474, White Rock Financial Plan. 1131 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,540 And this is for two recommendations to receive and to give final. 1132 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:58,800 With recommendation one. 1133 01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:01,220 Okay, all those in favor? 1134 01:23:02,060 --> 01:23:02,660 Opposed? 1135 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,040 Are you opposed, Councilor Chavellian? 1136 01:23:06,860 --> 01:23:12,160 In favor, I'll tell you what, I'll keep my hand, yes, how about that? 1137 01:23:12,540 --> 01:23:17,900 Mayor, I'm just noting that the first recommendation is just to receive any written submissions 1138 01:23:17,900 --> 01:23:20,380 but there were no written submissions, okay? 1139 01:23:20,540 --> 01:23:20,660 Okay. 1140 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,240 So you're in favor, Councillor Chivine? 1141 01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:23,080 Yes. 1142 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:23,580 Okay. 1143 01:23:24,260 --> 01:23:27,300 So now we're going on to the second recommendation. 1144 01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:29,720 Move recommendation number two. 1145 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:30,840 This is for final reading. 1146 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,020 All is in favor? 1147 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:33,800 Opposed? 1148 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,260 So that passes unanimously. 1149 01:23:37,860 --> 01:23:43,160 Bylaw 2476, White Rock Collection, Removal Disposal, and this is for final reading. 1150 01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:45,760 Move recommendation. 1151 01:23:47,130 --> 01:23:47,900 All those in favor? 1152 01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:49,560 Opposed? 1153 01:23:50,380 --> 01:23:50,680 Carried. 1154 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,080 Okay. 1155 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:58,240 Move on to bylaw 2365, White Rock Zoning, and this is for 15570 Oxingham. 1156 01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,660 This is for final reading, Council. 1157 01:24:01,660 --> 01:24:02,300 Move recommendation. 1158 01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:03,280 Second. 1159 01:24:04,060 --> 01:24:04,960 All those in favor? 1160 01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:06,220 Opposed? 1161 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:06,940 Carry. 1162 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,640 Now we go on to permits. 1163 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:15,900 Development variance permit 453, this 15661, Roper Avenue, and this is to approve the 1164 01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:18,500 issuance of the development variance permit. 1165 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,560 Move recommendation. 1166 01:24:22,700 --> 01:24:23,380 Have a seconder? 1167 01:24:26,090 --> 01:24:26,330 Okay. 1168 01:24:27,010 --> 01:24:27,470 Any discussion? 1169 01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:28,790 All those in favor? 1170 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:30,970 Councillor Tavelli. 1171 01:24:32,350 --> 01:24:33,150 Thank you very much, Mayor. 1172 01:24:33,310 --> 01:24:34,330 Just a question from Miss Barry. 1173 01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:37,490 What's the square footage of the proposed house? 1174 01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:38,890 Square footage? 1175 01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:40,590 Yeah, square footage. 1176 01:24:42,170 --> 01:24:42,890 Ms. Berry. 1177 01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:45,590 Would you have that information? 1178 01:24:46,290 --> 01:24:47,490 Yes, sorry, Ms. Berry, too. 1179 01:24:49,190 --> 01:24:52,290 So I don't actually think that I have that number. 1180 01:24:52,630 --> 01:24:54,470 I'd have to check the attached pocket. 1181 01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:55,090 Hang on a sec. 1182 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,100 Thank you very much. 1183 01:24:58,180 --> 01:25:01,100 And the reason I asked if they heard some proponent say it's not a huge home. 1184 01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:01,960 I'll just say it's a monster. 1185 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,780 I almost want to kind of judge for myself. 1186 01:25:03,780 --> 01:25:04,860 Sorry, 1187 01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:15,850 it's a very small print, I apologize. 1188 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:17,390 Or on the glasses. 1189 01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:19,290 Give that a try. 1190 01:25:23,230 --> 01:25:29,310 They're proposing a just under a 0.5 floor area ratio, 1191 01:25:29,310 --> 01:25:30,950 which is consistent with the zone, 1192 01:25:31,410 --> 01:25:35,110 and they're proposing a... 1193 01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:41,370 It appears to be a 37.4% lot coverage, 1194 01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:44,150 which is less than the maximum permitted. 1195 01:25:45,410 --> 01:25:47,130 I just have to keep going to find the word. 1196 01:25:47,710 --> 01:25:50,330 So it's less than what they could maximally build. 1197 01:25:50,610 --> 01:25:52,250 They're just dealing with the setbacks. 1198 01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:53,810 Yeah, that's good. Thank you, Mary. 1199 01:25:54,170 --> 01:25:56,450 Okay. Moved in second. 1200 01:25:56,770 --> 01:25:58,670 You have a discussion? Councillor Chaun? 1201 01:25:59,930 --> 01:26:01,370 Sorry to share. I just want to make a comment. 1202 01:26:01,610 --> 01:26:04,410 I did look at Google Maps and the existing house right now 1203 01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:06,210 is a bungalow, one story. 1204 01:26:06,490 --> 01:26:08,450 So when they go from 1000 square feet to 3000 1205 01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:09,910 they're building the three levels. 1206 01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:13,350 I looked at the work that went on, so. 1207 01:26:14,230 --> 01:26:15,390 Okay, thanks for doing that research. 1208 01:26:17,090 --> 01:26:19,190 Any more questions? Councillor Lawrence. 1209 01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,750 Thank you, Mayor, for you to Ms. Berry. 1210 01:26:23,190 --> 01:26:28,990 Is there any intention on putting a rental suite or anything like that in this particular redevelopment? 1211 01:26:30,250 --> 01:26:34,790 Through the chair suites are permitted, so they would have that option if they wished to. 1212 01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:44,830 Yeah. Okay, thank you for dragging continue. Yeah, my main focus is not to reduce the the potential of of living units at least within the within the city with this particular 1213 01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:57,610 Development variant's permit. So if if that can still be maintained then then that's a positive thing. Okay, great. Okay, seeing no more. I'll call a question. All those in favor? 1214 01:26:58,330 --> 01:27:05,770 the post carried unanimously. Okay, we'll move on to correspondence and shall need a motion 1215 01:27:05,770 --> 01:27:12,550 to receive 10.1 AMB, that's ECOM annual report and Metro Vancouver board and brief. 1216 01:27:12,930 --> 01:27:16,390 Motion to receive both. Okay. All those in favor? 1217 01:27:17,310 --> 01:27:23,270 Opposed? Carried. Okay, we'll move on to Mayor and Council report. I've got a couple here. 1218 01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:28,950 On Wednesday, June 28, I participated in the North Shore Wastewater Treatment Plan 1219 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:33,210 term with the Metro Vancouver Liquid Waste Committee members for the project overview. 1220 01:27:34,010 --> 01:27:37,950 On Thursday, June 29, I participated in TransLink's Mayors Council meeting. 1221 01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:42,630 Later in that evening, I had the pleasure of delivering remarks and swearing in the new directors 1222 01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:46,870 of the South Surrey White Rock Chamber of Commerce, annual general meeting and mixer event. 1223 01:27:47,810 --> 01:27:51,610 Friday, June 30, I attended Metro Vancouver Board of Directors Meeting in Burnaby. 1224 01:27:51,610 --> 01:27:56,250 Saturday, July 1st, I had the pleasure of delivering festive remarks at the city's annual 1225 01:27:56,250 --> 01:28:01,490 Canada Day by the Bay event. A shout out to all staff and dispensers and volunteers 1226 01:28:01,490 --> 01:28:06,170 for delivering a fabulous event that was well received and attended. We received lots 1227 01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:12,170 of positive comments, so thank you and well done. On Thursday, July 6th, I participated in 1228 01:28:12,170 --> 01:28:16,930 the Metro Vancouver George Massey Crossing Task Force meeting. Later in that evening, I had 1229 01:28:16,930 --> 01:28:21,410 the pleasure of welcoming everyone on stage of the first TD Concerts of the Peer Series 1230 01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:22,970 that took place at Memorial Park. 1231 01:28:23,230 --> 01:28:25,170 It was great to see so many people enjoying themselves 1232 01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:27,130 the music, the restaurants and the shops 1233 01:28:27,130 --> 01:28:29,230 along the waterfront were super busy. 1234 01:28:29,890 --> 01:28:32,130 On Friday, July 7th, I had the pleasure 1235 01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:33,550 of meeting with Stephanie Kadoo, 1236 01:28:33,850 --> 01:28:35,930 Chief Accessibility Officer for Employment 1237 01:28:35,930 --> 01:28:38,390 and Development Canada to discuss this accessibility. 1238 01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:40,110 And thank you, Councillor Klauson, 1239 01:28:40,250 --> 01:28:41,290 for joining me at that meeting, 1240 01:28:41,290 --> 01:28:42,390 along with staff members. 1241 01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:44,410 Later that afternoon, I participated 1242 01:28:44,410 --> 01:28:45,890 in TransLink Mayor's Council 1243 01:28:45,890 --> 01:28:47,930 on Regional Transportation Finance Committee. 1244 01:28:48,570 --> 01:28:50,530 And on Sunday, July 9th, yesterday, 1245 01:28:50,530 --> 01:28:54,750 They attended a softball reception for Canada Cup and had the pleasure of meeting the Canadian 1246 01:28:54,750 --> 01:28:58,650 team captain and meeting some players and the coach from the team from the Ukraine. 1247 01:28:59,450 --> 01:29:03,750 Congratulations to the Canada Cup organizers who raised funds to bring this team from 1248 01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:04,890 the Ukraine to Canada. 1249 01:29:05,450 --> 01:29:09,510 I can't imagine what these people have been going through with the war and hope that they 1250 01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:12,810 find some joy while visiting us here in Canada and playing ball. 1251 01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:19,430 Finally, I want to congratulate Team Samiyamu Rock of the Samiyamu Minor La Crosse Association 1252 01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:25,130 who won the under 13 bronze medal in the BC Provincial Championships A division this weekend, 1253 01:29:25,470 --> 01:29:30,230 well done to everyone on that team. That's my report. Anyone else want to join in? 1254 01:29:30,650 --> 01:29:31,290 Councillor Partridge. 1255 01:29:33,740 --> 01:29:39,300 Thank you, Mayor. I attended 10 events, but I am not going to tell you all 10. 1256 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:46,540 I'm just going to cherry pick a couple. June 27, I attended the 68th Annual White Rock Rotary 1257 01:29:46,540 --> 01:29:51,580 installation dinner, which I am a member, and I was very surprised to receive 1258 01:29:51,580 --> 01:29:57,380 rookie of the year for my volunteer work, so I did not expect that. I love being 1259 01:29:57,380 --> 01:29:59,960 a Rotarian. It's pretty cool. And the other... 1260 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,780 The other one I want to point out is, I attended a meeting with John Wulgar, a director of recreation and culture, with a resident of Surrey regarding including more programming for children with special needs. And so that's an important thing and dear to my heart. And there's others, but there you go. That's all I'm going to give you. Okay, Councilor Chung. Through the chair. So on June 29th, the Sal Surrey White Rock Chamber, AGM, which a lot of us actually went to it. July 1st, Canada Day, well done team. That was amazing. 1261 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:34,080 July 8th, paint a town. I hope you guys had a chance to come down to see the Samoyamu 1262 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,840 Art Society date at this amazing, people got set up and painted anywhere, anything you wanted. 1263 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,940 And July 8th, I was the token person who got into the poor house collection. 1264 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,300 Oh, and that was at the pop-up gallery. 1265 01:30:47,980 --> 01:30:53,300 Wonderful events, celebrating three local artists. And then, of course, the Canada Day reception last night was amazing. 1266 01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,960 And thank you for filling in for me today, because I was at another event. 1267 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,120 Anyone else seen none? Oh Councillor Chesney. Thank you very much. Your worship just 1268 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,920 said regarding Canada the day. I don't know whether anyone else was up early the morning 1269 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:12,280 after, but I was absolutely blown away at how clean our city was with the thousands of 1270 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:17,800 people that came to watch the fireworks and the events. It was almost like, and it was 1271 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,900 5.30 in the morning, by the way. So nobody had even been out to clean up anything yet. 1272 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,740 And I'd just like to quickly say regarding the baseball tournament, your worship, Canada 1273 01:31:27,740 --> 01:31:32,040 a place tonight first game Australia 630 we can go and get dinner there and tomorrow 1274 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:37,500 team Ukraine 1030 and 330 it is absolutely an incredible if you've never seen the 1275 01:31:37,500 --> 01:31:42,280 talent that comes to softball city by all means he do Thursday night concert at the 1276 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,460 pier the matinee at the memorial garden and if that's not your cup of tea come on down 1277 01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:52,140 do a little swing dancing in memorial park 545 Saturday thank you thank you councillor 1278 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:55,960 President. Seeing no one else, I'm going to call for conclusion. Thank you everyone. 1279 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,820 Thank you. Have a nice holiday.