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[0:01] Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to call the regular council meeting of July 10, 2023 to order, please. First, I'll have a land acknowledgment, and I will ask Councillor Chung to read that, please.
[0:16] Thank you, through the chair. We would like to recognize that we are standing, working meeting on the traditional unceded territory of the Samiyamu First Nations, and also wish to acknowledge the broad of territories of the Coast Salish peoples. Thank you, Councillor Chung, and I see we have Councillor Chung
[0:36] The next is the adoption of the agenda and it's been amended so Ms. Arthur do you want
[0:42] to speak to that?
[0:44] Thank you, Mary.
[0:45] It's amended to add an item for a question and answer period on table submission as well
[0:50] as noted in the agenda item 6.2.a the corporate report on the daytime warming center summary
[0:58] report.
[0:59] Okay.
[0:59] Thank you, Ms. Arthur.
[0:59] So I'll entertain a motion to move adoption as amended.
[1:05] Seconder, all those in favour?
[1:07] Opposed?
[1:08] Carried.
[1:08] Next is adoption of the minutes of June 26, 2023 is circulated.
[1:13] Move adoption.
[1:14] Seconder.
[1:16] Okay.
[1:16] All those in favour?
[1:18] Opposed?
[1:18] Carried.
[1:19] Now we're going to recess this meeting.
[1:22] So I'll take a motion to postpone and then directly following the public meeting, we will
[1:28] reconvene.
[1:29] So can I have a motion please so moved so all is in favor opposed carried council
[1:34] We're going to be ready.
[1:42] Okay. Thank you. So we're going to question an answer period now and miss Arthur
[1:54] Thank you
[1:55] We do have some signed up for question and answer period so I'll read the procedure to start
[1:59] In accordance with the city bylaw question and answer period will be timed to not exceed 15 minutes
[2:04] If there are a number of speakers
[2:06] Council may wish to extend this time by a vote for further 15 minutes just prior to
[2:12] the conclusion of the regular council meeting. Each speaker will be given two
[2:16] minutes and one opportunity to speak. There's a sign-in sheet available for
[2:20] anyone wanting to speak during this time where you're asked to place your name
[2:24] in City of Residence and you'll be called in the same order. Speakers are asked
[2:28] to begin by stating their name in City of Residence and this information will
[2:32] be included in the minutes, along with the summary list of questions, comments,
[2:35] and topics and any answers given at this time.
[2:39] Nothing, something that's not answered this evening
[2:42] will be placed on the city website.
[2:44] And a reminder there to be no questions or comments
[2:46] on a matter that will be the subject
[2:48] of a public hearing during the time
[2:51] between the public hearing and final consideration
[2:53] of the by-law.
[2:56] Thank you, Ms. Arthur.
[2:58] Ms. Johnson, do we have a sign of it?
[3:00] And Marinette, I will note we've got five speakers signed up.
[3:04] So we'll just be watching that two minutes.
[3:08] First on the list, we have, I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing this, Gagan Bufall.
[3:16] Please come forward.
[3:20] Just your name and place of residence, please.
[3:27] Is this speaker on?
[3:29] It's on.
[3:30] Okay.
[3:30] So this is in regards to obtaining a tree permit from my property located on 15829 Prospect
[3:35] Crescent.
[3:36] Basically, it's been multiple months now and I can't seem to get an in-person meeting with anyone
[3:40] at the tree department, which is basically cost me thousands of dollars at this point. I've also
[3:44] submitted a report for undue hardship to the city indicating that the tree would cost me a maximum
[3:50] fine of $10,000 if I were to cut it down, but to maintain and retain that tree is cost to me
[3:57] around $23,000 at a bare minimum. So the entire mayor and council's whole campaign was affordability
[4:04] the city and speeding up processes to get the permit. And it's been, again, I've been going
[4:10] at this since about April, March and we're in July now. Still haven't obtained the permit.
[4:15] Again, you can see the cost to retain the tree, far exceed what it costs to cut down the tree.
[4:22] With that said, I'd like Mayor and Council or whoever to contact whoever this delegated authority is
[4:28] to weigh whatever objections they have so that we can move on with the project.
[4:33] If this is not possible, can you at least arrange some sort of sit down meeting with the tree department so we can go over what options we can go through and what options my arborist has to go ahead and continue on with the project.
[4:47] Thank you.
[4:48] Oh, one of the things well, we're not just trying to cut down trees on property for the
[4:54] sake of cutting down trees, there are three or four other trees on the property that
[4:58] we can cut down that we've said to retain just because they cause no issues at all and
[5:03] we want to keep the greenery in the city.
[5:05] Yep.
[5:05] Okay.
[5:06] Thank you.
[5:07] So you had a response from staff regarding this tree?
[5:10] Yeah.
[5:11] And they've said, no, you've got to just pay the cost that, you know, what are double what
[5:17] cost to actually cut down the tree and that's what they're telling me. They said to continue
[5:22] on to build your project you'll have to block off I guess the roadway during construction and again
[5:30] we would rather not do that because we're in a school zone. So blocking off a road in a school
[5:36] zone would probably not be the greatest idea. Okay and who would you like to meet with them because
[5:42] you want to sit down with someone but you've already had a response from staff. So well whoever
[5:47] can comment on this. So I don't know who this delegated authority is. I've asked and that
[5:51] response has been ignored. So if you can find out who that is or tell me who that is, so I can contact
[5:55] them, that would be great. If they can't weigh whatever objection that the department has, if you can sit
[6:03] down or get me a meeting with, I guess, either Ann Berry or Atlantic Laffordy, that would be great as well
[6:08] and sit down with my rubbers so we can just kind of go through what we can do about this.
[6:12] Okay, I'll just check with Mr. Ferrell on this.
[6:15] Yeah, thank you, worship.
[6:16] Yeah, we can definitely set up a meeting.
[6:17] That's not an issue.
[6:18] However, there's no delegated authority
[6:20] where staff is doing is following the by-law
[6:22] and the by-law has been adopted by council.
[6:25] So only council can suspend or change the by-law.
[6:27] So most likely, that's the same answer
[6:30] that we're going to give you when you meet with us.
[6:31] If you want to change the by-law,
[6:33] we'll be happy to entertain.
[6:34] But what is happening is we're just respecting
[6:37] the by-law worship.
[6:38] But we'll follow up with the delegation
[6:44] So just a quick response for that, yeah, you'll give me that same response, but the thing is, when you sit down with my
[6:49] Arborist, he has other things to do. We've sent three reports back to this.
[6:53] This is not an avenue to make a discussion. There's no debate. I'll give you the answer you want it.
[6:57] Should me where you'll thank you. Sounds good. Okay. Thank you.
[7:01] Mr. Jostle. Next step, I have Pat Petrella. Pat Petrella. Can I just ask what these stickers are? Pat Petrella?
[7:11] and I live in White Rock. I'm here to comment and ask questions around the possible elimination
[7:16] of question and answer period. Not many people actually make time to follow council and
[7:22] make sure they review the agenda and see if there's anything they need to comment on.
[7:27] And I'm just one voice in the community who believes in community engagement as a foundation
[7:31] of our democracy. So few people actually vote. They actually participate or volunteer in community
[7:39] the percentage numbers are very disappointing as a whole.
[7:43] Thus the brief 15 minutes for our elected representatives
[7:47] to hear from the community
[7:49] and see others can see it by the video feed
[7:52] and not just the one sentence in the paper
[7:55] is really valuable.
[7:57] It's 15 minutes, two times a month.
[8:00] It doesn't add up to very much time, in fact.
[8:03] The mutual respect that we have for each other
[8:05] includes hearing people venting, complaints,
[8:08] constructive feedback and a learning curve all of it is constructive and is
[8:13] appreciated. I trust you will reconsider the bylaw amendment to silence your
[8:18] neighbors so often people write leave messages try to share their perspective get
[8:24] no response they seek advice and they get lost in the maze. They really want to be
[8:31] a part of shaping the community. I do not think that question period coming
[8:36] forward are to be so easily discarded.
[8:39] Staff may need some time to respond or prepare or apply if needed, but that's the role that
[8:45] taxpayers expect of our elected reps and staff.
[8:49] Our taxes are paying for it, so I'm asking for the real math, what is the social consequences
[8:54] of eliminating 15 minutes, two times a month?
[8:57] What's the measurable staff cost, why justify it, that it needs to be eliminated?
[9:03] Thank you.
[9:03] Thank you, Mr. Pichal.
[9:07] Ms. Johnson?
[9:09] Next on the list, I have Ingo Hearsy.
[9:21] Ingo Harris, White Rock.
[9:27] Simple question.
[9:28] You know, the two previous people, I relate to so much.
[9:34] I have a simple question.
[9:35] What do I do when there's a question of safety and the city staff
[9:38] will no longer communicate with me?
[9:41] I'm talking about the convex mirror.
[9:42] one of us in Beachview. I've been told that I have to wait six months for traffic safety
[9:49] report and possibly a year for capital improvements before anything is done for our safety. Safety
[9:58] is the issue here and it's here now, not six months from now or a year from now.
[10:05] In my opinion,
[10:06] no qualified person has examined the safety risk at this corner. The residents of Beachview
[10:13] go there every single day, and the odd time we have somebody that's almost hitting us.
[10:21] You know, majority of the time, everything is fine, but there's the odd time that I know myself and everybody I've talked to have almost been hit.
[10:29] I don't know what to do now, I can't talk to city staff,
[10:35] and I want guidance.
[10:37] I've sent each of you the email that what my concerns are.
[10:41] I hope I get some kind of response of what I need to do to get this.
[10:46] When City staff doesn't respond to me, I get frustrated and I think you can hear my voice.
[10:52] In a way, so I'm going to leave it at that, other people want to talk.
[10:55] But I hope I hear back from you.
[10:57] Thank you very much.
[10:58] Well, you did hear from me and I did meet with you in person.
[11:02] And we did talk about a traffic study because we wanted a qualified person to do the report.
[11:07] I agree with that. Six months down the road is not now. We are having problems now. I almost got hit two days ago. I understand sir. I get angry. I don't know where you get in the six months with because Mr. Gordon said it will come to council this fall in the fall. It's July.
[11:28] Okay, that's pretty much any problems, capital approval has been bought in 2024.
[11:37] We both know that it's a job down the road and the island there that is causing the line
[11:43] of sight.
[11:44] So if any major improvement, yeah, it's going to be a kind of project.
[11:49] I don't want to talk anymore.
[11:50] I'd rather get some kind of guide to what I need to do to have a safety issue.
[11:55] Okay.
[11:56] Okay.
[11:56] Thank you for coming forward.
[11:58] Ms. Johnson?
[12:01] Chris Shields.
[12:07] Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.
[12:09] My name is Chris Shields.
[12:11] I'm a resident of White Rock.
[12:12] Got a few things I'd like to chat about.
[12:14] One is the question and answer period.
[12:17] I agree with the other people that have spoken and I'm concerned that if residents of White Rock
[12:24] want to come forward and voice their concerns or opinions, that they don't have an avenue
[12:28] to do that.
[12:29] I've been told that they can email, send in an email, but I've also seen what happens
[12:34] when we send in an email, there's often pushback.
[12:38] And also this form is a public form, and when someone comes up and voices their question
[12:43] or concern, it's streamed and other people in the city of White Rock get to see it and
[12:48] hear it.
[12:49] So that's transparent.
[12:50] So taking that away makes me concerned about the transparency moving forward if you do
[12:55] approve the by-law change.
[12:57] So I would like to see the question and answer period remain, and I understand some of the
[13:03] changes would mean you have to be here in person.
[13:06] I think that might be reasonable, but certainly not sticking to what's on the agenda because
[13:12] an average resident of White Rock is going to be challenged to get something put on the
[13:17] agenda so that they can come and talk about it.
[13:20] The other thing I would like to chat about is the mirror, the safety issue that Ingo just
[13:26] spoke about my neighbor. I just want to back up what he's saying. Like he's concerned
[13:30] and we all on the street are concerned if we have to wait for a traffic safety study
[13:35] and it could be in next year's budget before something gets done. That's too far away
[13:41] and we're just an accident waiting to happen. So I also have some concerns around the process.
[13:49] I find it very challenging to believe that instead of just adjusting that mirror after
[13:55] to the November winds and tightening it,
[13:57] which would have taken maybe 15 minutes or less.
[14:00] We spent a lot of time and effort
[14:02] and emails back and forth and meetings with the mayor
[14:05] and Chatson City Hall.
[14:08] And really, we're being told that they went
[14:12] and got legal opinion and that it's a liability issue.
[14:16] I struggle to believe that.
[14:17] Like so the city would spend maybe $700 an hour
[14:21] to a lawyer to cut you off.
[14:22] Yeah. Like I found that very challenging two minutes. Thank you. Thank you.
[14:27] Ms. Johnson?
[14:29] The last one signed up on the list.
[14:31] I'm here to Scott Christensen.
[14:36] Thank you. Again, council. Uh, Scott Christensen. I live in Wayrock. I'm proud of that. Um,
[14:42] I have a very simple question and I have to put into context. But my question to this council is,
[14:47] what is your current process for deciding which zoning changes go to a public hearing and which not?
[14:53] Let me put that into context. We just had a public hearing. I won't mention the details, but it tripled the size of
[15:00] All of the proposed building. I think that's a great thing to go to public hearing and thank you for making that happen. Also, and I notice this on the July 6th pan, it was advertised perfect. Also advertised was a notice of waiver of public hearing for 15, 14, 54 Oxford Street, where there are going to be tripling the number of units from 43 to 125 on Oxford Street. That is so much more significant to
[15:29] the public and it's very inappropriate to me that that is not going to have a public hearing so
[15:34] I would like to get a answer from council or the mayor anybody or staff um what is the process
[15:42] let's understand why some things are excluded and some things are not I will say that's you know
[15:47] online people are you know suggesting well maybe that's because some of the council members you know
[15:52] they're talk talk of campaign donations and stuff it's it's not appropriate but um I just think
[15:58] I think we need to have that process, and I would appreciate that.
[16:01] Okay, well, and I got, sorry, I'm sorry, I just want to echo that I think it's a mistake to limit Q&A.
[16:11] I found, you know, I did the dogs on the problem and that task force, I got inundated with lots of negative feedback.
[16:16] But you learn so much from people who give you that feedback, and I think the process is better for it.
[16:21] I think the public will appreciate it if you don't close down Q&A, and I think you'll get better information from everybody.
[16:27] Okay, so thank you very much.
[16:29] Okay, so your question regarding the zoning and that,
[16:32] what we had this evening was a public meeting
[16:34] because we're doing a development variance permit.
[16:37] So public hearing, you were talking about on the Oxford,
[16:41] I think it was, it's what you said.
[16:43] That was regarding a typo in the document.
[16:46] So that's the reason we're not holding a public hearing again.
[16:49] Okay, so pretty straightforward.
[16:52] Okay, so that calls, that's everybody on the list
[16:55] Are we out of time or we still have time?
[16:58] We've got time for one more, okay.
[17:01] Is there anyone from the audience that would like to come forward?
[17:06] Not seeing any?
[17:07] Second time?
[17:10] Not seeing any?
[17:11] And at this time I'll note that on table submission from Mr. Gumley and it's regarding
[17:17] the Q&A rules and changes to the agenda publishing.
[17:23] So this is on table. It's available for the public and there's questions on in regard
[17:29] to that council have. Okay, great. Mr. Ferraro, do you want to respond to that or do
[17:36] you want to do that by email? You were supposed to do it by email. Most of these are comments
[17:41] and the questions are really for cultural patterns and chunks. So I would try to stay away from
[17:49] But if I can provide some facts, I can definitely do it by now.
[17:53] Okay, so council, we will make a motion to receive that then.
[17:58] What should I receive?
[18:00] Okay, any discussion? All those in favour?
[18:03] Opposed? Carried.
[18:04] Okay, we're going to move on to delegations.
[18:06] And first, we have Cheryl Light-Towers.
[18:09] If she would like to come forward, please.
[18:21] Okay, you have five minutes, Ms. Light-Towers.
[18:23] Good afternoon, Mayor Knight and Council, thank you for accepting our request to speak.
[18:32] My name is Cheryl Light-Towler, I'm a White Rock citizen, and a planner along with Kathy
[18:38] Booth and Bonnie Gillis of the recent homelessness on the Peninsula Forum, which Mayor Knight and
[18:46] councilor Chung attended. Honestly, we were surprised and encouraged by this
[18:52] tending remonely crowd of 150 people. And out of that, we're here today
[19:00] advocating for the unhoused on the peninsula. I have about 85 letters that
[19:07] were signed that evening that I will leave for you to read. One of our speakers at
[19:14] Aileen Murphy, Acting Director of Housing and Social Planning for the City of Surrey,
[19:21] told me at the break that she was energized by the compassion that she felt in the room.
[19:28] Very quickly, she arranged for us to meet with her, and her supervisor, Terry Waterhouse.
[19:36] Then we were invited to a meeting last Thursday at Surrey City Hall for
[19:41] for the start of the Surrey Homelessness Prevention and Response Plan.
[19:51] One of the funding programs Surrey has in here is the Federal Housing Accelerator one,
[19:58] and I was pleased to see it's on tonight's agenda for this council, as it has funding
[20:05] for 100,000 units over five years, including emergency and support of housing.
[20:12] Please note that we are grateful for what White Rock has already done, particularly by
[20:20] securing the grant for the daytime warming center located in the trailer.
[20:25] In 2021, when Kathy Booth and I came before this council and asked for such a shelter,
[20:32] we were told it was impossible. We came back in 22 with the same request and that council,
[20:40] including Mr. Tessney, I think Mr. Tavellian is this year and Mr. Christensen.
[20:48] They had the courage and creativity to say they would make it happen, a daytime warming shelter,
[20:56] And it did for six weeks, and then with the grant applied for and received, it became
[21:03] a reality for the whole last winter season.
[21:08] There was some financial support from Siri, but quite frankly, it was what I said, the
[21:14] courage and creativity of White Rock that allowed for the saving of lives by initiating the warming
[21:21] shelter. That and the choice of engaged communities led by Mr. Upcar Singh Tatle, who
[21:29] is here tonight. We also acknowledged the important cooling room and the misting tent
[21:36] offered last summer and this one. We are here today with two concerns. Number one,
[21:44] for the past 15 years, the faith communities on the peninsula have hosted the nighttime
[21:50] time site for the extreme weather. As of today, there is no site for that this winter.
[22:00] The first time this has happened in the history of an extreme weather shelter on the peninsula.
[22:06] The nearest site would be Cloverdale, and it was already overbooked often last season.
[22:13] And it's also very challenging to get there from
[22:16] Socery White Rock, especially late on a cold night.
[22:21] A peninsula site is urgently needed.
[22:25] And just to give you some information about the nighttime shelter,
[22:29] it was held Mount Olive, New Thrun Church, and briefly
[22:33] promised park this last winter.
[22:36] There were 25 mats on the floor.
[22:39] The mats were a bed for 3,254 people.
[22:48] It was their safe place in the winter.
[22:54] We averaged 24 guests a night for 20 nights, the were 30 to 40 guests and for 6 nights
[23:06] there were more than 40 and that was in the hall of a church.
[23:11] We don't have, it was a bandaid and we don't even have that for this year.
[23:15] What we do have is folks like we have here that we will be the volunteers, we'll bring
[23:20] clothing, we'll bring food, but we need the site.
[23:24] The second is that there is no year round support of housing on the peninsula.
[23:29] None in White Rock, and we are the only area in Surrey that does not have a year-round supportive shelter.
[23:38] We need this and quote-unquote from the White Rock Housing Report of 2021.
[23:45] This is the time, opportunity to implement homelessness prevention strategies before it becomes a management.
[23:52] I'll let you go over the five minutes, but I appreciate you coming forward and that with that the group that you're working with
[24:03] We are a collection of individuals. You're just individuals. You're not working with any of the faith-based organizations
[24:09] We represent some of us are from faith-based and some of us not okay. We are people
[24:15] Citizens of the peninsula who are concerned for the unhoused and mount all of this not offering that again
[24:22] Correct. Is there a reason for that? Yes. And what is that? Can you tell me?
[24:31] We reached over capacity and had up to 40 or more people in a church hall.
[24:41] Okay. It was not that close to transportation. There were many reasons, but they had already
[24:46] done. This was their second season to offer.
[24:51] Well, I am trying to work with the City of Surrey, and I've been having meetings with
[24:55] the mayor there because they have a lot more resources than we do. And I know that the
[25:00] UBCM grant isn't available this year. There's no funding at this point. We don't know yet,
[25:05] but as far as it is, there's no funds there. So, I know our CAO, Mr. Ferrero, is working
[25:11] with Surrey's CAO also. So we are there are there any questions of council for the delegation.
[25:19] Councillor Klausen.
[25:23] Through the mayor. Thank you so much for your presentation. Rest assured
[25:28] that all of us on council are equally as concerned as you are about the issue that you're bringing
[25:37] forward and we are pursuing options as a city.
[25:46] At this point, as the mayor said, there
[25:50] is no grant available yet, but that doesn't mean that we're not continuing to look for
[25:56] other sources. And I would like to feel that we as a community will come together somehow,
[26:06] now and we will figure something out for this winter.
[26:11] That's my concern and my commitment
[26:14] to you that we will continue to look for options.
[26:19] Thank you.
[26:20] Anyone else?
[26:21] Thank you.
[26:22] Not seeing any.
[26:22] Thank you, Chair.
[26:23] And I would like to say that we look forward to hearing from council for any way that we can
[26:30] be of assistance.
[26:31] Great.
[26:32] Thank you very much.
[26:33] Thank you.
[26:36] Okay, we're going to move on now. We've got a corporate report on the warming
[26:42] center summary from Miss Berry.
[26:47] Thank you, Moon 8. Just briefly, this is
[26:50] intended to provide an overview of the operations of the daytime warming
[26:54] center from this past winter season. So essentially in September, Council
[27:00] did authorize the awarding of a contract for services to engage communities
[27:03] Canada society, the operator, and they are here just after my presentation to
[27:08] also present on the center. Briefly it operated from November 9th through to March 31st.
[27:17] There was a small period of closure because it had initially opened to operate based
[27:22] on weather conditions that felt like zero or were zero or below and then Council directed
[27:27] that the warming center be open regardless of those weather conditions for the winter season.
[27:32] It operated as expected, it served a regular population and it was quite busy throughout
[27:40] that period of time.
[27:42] We did experience a very cold snap in particular which did create some facility challenges
[27:48] for us in particular related to pipes freezing, snow load on the trailer.
[27:54] So there was some water pieces we had to manage from a facility's perspective and that was
[28:00] all resolved.
[28:01] So there were some additional costs that came into play related to the water issues that
[28:06] we had.
[28:06] However, they all did fall within the overall approved budget.
[28:11] We did receive very few complaints from a by-law enforcement perspective, but I would
[28:16] also note that both the RCMP and by-law enforcement staff did up their patrols, and the operator
[28:21] worked very closely with us to make sure that any concerns that we raised were rectified
[28:27] as soon as possible.
[28:29] So with that, if there's any questions for me, I'm happy to answer them if not, Mr.
[28:34] upcarsting Tatley is here as well and has a presentation for Council.
[28:37] Okay, thank you.
[28:39] Any questions for Ms. Berry?
[28:41] No, I'm not seeing any, so if you'd like to come forward, please.
[28:54] Thanks.
[28:56] Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[28:58] My name is upcarsting Tatley, resident of Celse Surrey, I will gloss over any further
[29:05] by all of myself and carry on with the organization.
[29:09] Engaged communities can to society.
[29:10] We've been in operation for, I say a decade,
[29:13] but it's actually been 13 years.
[29:14] Our primary operation back then was to provide
[29:18] healthcare initiatives, addressing gaps in healthcare delivery
[29:21] to communities throughout British Columbia
[29:23] and lower mainland specifically,
[29:26] specific to marginalized communities,
[29:28] women facing distress, gender-based violence,
[29:31] and providing access to sport and activities for youth as well.
[29:37] Through the provision of these services, we quickly learned of other challenges in communities,
[29:41] and that led to the expansion of services that included what we will talk about today, including shelters.
[29:49] We recognized that throughout British Columbia, there was a huge gap in service delivery,
[29:53] and that's really when we got into this work.
[29:54] other parts of our work, specifically here in cell-story white rock, including
[30:00] We're working alongside PeaceArch Hospital Foundation on health initiatives. These include hygiene projects, fresh food. We have a community garden plot that provided fresh food throughout the pandemic to people delivering directly to their homes, who couldn't leave, whether they were seniors or they were limited by mobility challenges. In addition to that, we also run a mobile health unit. The mobile health unit is something that's been featured widely and is now expanded to other municipalities.
[30:29] through the auspices of the Ministry of Health
[30:31] and includes nurses from the local health authority,
[30:35] counselors, and many services that otherwise people
[30:38] just could not have access to.
[30:40] However, we're here to talk about the services,
[30:43] as mentioned earlier, the extreme weather response
[30:47] in this region.
[30:48] The first iteration of this was at
[30:52] had occurred in a church at sunny sign,
[30:56] and that's really when we got a good understanding
[30:58] of the challenges that lay before us in terms of demographics, individuals, and a sheer number of
[31:03] people who needed the support. I think it's been shared with you how successful the model was
[31:08] subsequently at Centennial Park, and that also coincided with many of our cooling sites that we
[31:17] operated throughout the summer, specifically during the heat dome, as you all recall, we had a very
[31:22] hot summer a couple years ago, a couple years ago, and that operated in Fraser Valley in
[31:29] Delta, in Surrey in the downtown east side, and last year here in the city of White Rock as well.
[31:35] And these were ancillary services to handle emerging trends that we were starting to see.
[31:43] That leads us to the daytime warming center. This site and the work that was done here
[31:51] is really predicated on a body of work that extends back a few years and really what
[31:57] we've seen over time is that the needs have greatly increased in this region. I
[32:03] think obviously by showing of individuals who've shown up here today who
[32:07] represent community, people do have an understanding of the profound need that
[32:13] exists on the peninsula. As mentioned we were at times we were standing
[32:19] room only but we had to adhere to the bylaws as well as the permissions we
[32:24] received from White Rock Fire Service. So we tried to accommodate people the best
[32:28] we could. Many of you who were called the coldest, some of the coldest nights we
[32:33] had this year as well as snowstorm that ended up barricading many people to their
[32:37] homes. We had a bus stranded on the street as well that prohibited people from
[32:41] entering the shelter site itself. And we're really thankful to city staff for
[32:46] coming in and saving the day on many occasions, removing the snow, bringing out their shovels,
[32:51] making sure that people had access.
[32:53] And once those pathways were cleared and open, we've never seen numbers like this in any,
[32:59] and I mentioned earlier, we have operated sites elsewhere.
[33:02] The numbers here on the peninsula, White Rock and Surrey were astronomical during those cold
[33:07] days and you can see some of the numbers share there with you, I'll just carry on.
[33:13] So, some of the services that were rendered, there's numerous needs that exist in community.
[33:25] Our shelter provided services, and these are some of the things that we notice over
[33:29] time have changed significantly.
[33:32] There's a huge uptick in the number of seniors who are utilizing our services.
[33:36] We have not seen the number of seniors that we had this past season.
[33:39] In addition to that, women who were facing gender-based violence or fleeing violence, we saw
[33:46] a huge number of increase in that population as well.
[33:49] As well as youth who had either timed out or no longer fit within the foster system, they
[33:55] just aged out and they had no place to go.
[33:57] That was another demographic.
[33:59] As well we had a significant number of people who were facing what is quote unquote, renavictions,
[34:04] people who were turned out of their homes.
[34:07] as well as the consistent, sad reality of people who are facing hospital discharges.
[34:14] You have no other interim place to be while their lives are being sorted out
[34:17] so they would find themselves at the shelter.
[34:20] This is in addition to a population also who's facing challenges around mental health
[34:24] and addiction as well.
[34:25] So you can see there it's a hugely dynamic, diverse population with numerous challenges
[34:31] and that's why our services had to be rendered in the way they were.
[34:34] This includes basic needs and supports, overdose response and crisis intervention by working closely with our nurses from Fraser Health.
[34:43] We had doctors on site, that was the first time that's been accomplished.
[34:46] We worked closely with the Division of Family Practice to ensure that we had nurses and doctors on site.
[34:52] We had wound care again with Fraser Health, counselors through moving forward counseling services.
[34:57] So, we really put a lot into the hopper to make sure that we were able to handle a lot of the
[35:03] dynamic challenges that were presented. I mentioned some of the close collaborators,
[35:09] Fraser Health, Division of Family Practice, working closely with the Ministry of Social Development
[35:15] and Poverty Reduction, as well as moving forward counseling services. I want to highlight working
[35:20] with the provincial government on this project. We were able to, for the first time,
[35:24] across the province here in the city of White Rock incorporate a ministry worker into the site
[35:30] to ensure that people were having access to income assistance and any other assistance that
[35:35] could be provided or rendered from the provincial government. They were there on a consistent basis
[35:39] as well as weekly visits from the nurses from Fraser Health through their iHeart project
[35:45] and then our local division of family practice having a GP on site and again for the first time
[35:52] being able to provide requisitions or prescriptions for individuals who haven't seen a doctor for numerous years.
[36:09] So, really what we've seen through this project and those who work at the grassroots level will understand this.
[36:16] What this has really done is brought community together and that's really what's required when you, as I mentioned earlier,
[36:24] there's just so many challenges associated with this work and it cannot be accomplished and alone,
[36:28] not with one agency, not with one individual, but it really takes all hands on deck to accomplish this.
[36:34] We were very grateful for the outpouring of compassion, empathy, and understanding that we saw from
[36:42] community. That led to not only donations, but support, vocal support, but also the liaising with
[36:49] individuals who were staying at the shelter site. We had numerous people from the public who would
[36:54] show up just to have conversations with a senior
[36:57] who had mobility challenges.
[36:58] Youth, we were able to connect to youth
[37:01] who had aged out of foster care
[37:03] with a member of the local worship community
[37:05] who he was then able to start attending church
[37:08] and have better results in his life.
[37:10] We had actually recognized an individual
[37:12] who joined us at the shelter last year
[37:15] representing Realtors Association.
[37:17] We have close contact with Realtors Association.
[37:20] In fact, a whole group has galvanized members
[37:23] of the public around this very service and continue in dialogue and wondering how we
[37:29] can provide this service in the future and what can be done.
[37:35] Just to quickly highlight some responses, we had numerous responses on how this space
[37:40] has been helpful to individuals.
[37:42] You can read there, someone says here, having this space was like having a safe place with
[37:46] no judgment of why I was in need of a place like this.
[37:50] It only saved my life physically, but it saved my soul.
[37:52] I'll let you read the others, but the individual highlighted there in the middle is a shelter
[37:57] guest who's been alone and unsheltered on the peninsula for over 15 years, faced challenges
[38:02] finding housing, endured significant violence and discrimination there by increasing his vulnerability.
[38:10] In fact, there was things that were done and said to him on my watch that I had to witness
[38:14] initially.
[38:15] It was them that we decided we had to do something very quickly.
[38:18] we secured in permanent and culturally appropriate housing for him. Unfortunately, that is not available here, so it isn't Vancouver, but he was able to get help moving into this site, and he's doing much better now, and again, another benefit of having the site.
[38:36] Moving forward, I think I'll leave this in Expert Tans, Merrant Council. There are many opportunities here.
[38:44] the work that has been done here is significant.
[38:49] The structure, the ability for the structure
[38:52] to be set up, taken down, is actually something that I have
[38:56] spoken to the Ministry of Housing.
[38:58] And the Minister about it served as a wonderful example.
[39:03] The project that has now really two and a half years in the making
[39:06] is something that is serving as a model across the region.
[39:09] So I want to applaud you all for the work and support on that as well.
[39:14] most significantly and I think this is what's most important to me and I mentioned it earlier
[39:18] is that this could not be accomplished without support. You can see the number of individuals who
[39:23] really came to our organizations and stakeholders that came together to really accomplish this goal.
[39:30] The city team and their unflinching support throughout from everyone down at the arena here at City Hall
[39:36] and Barry and her team. Bylaws, I think it was mentioned that bylaws, White Rock or RCMP,
[39:43] they were able to fluidly adjust their visits to our site based on need,
[39:47] and that's a fluid conversation and dialogue we were able to sustain with them over a very tough period of time.
[39:53] You can understand, given the challenges I described earlier, this is not easy to do, this work,
[39:59] there's extreme variables. In fact, I'd argue that the variables that we're dealing with during this time
[40:04] are unseen anywhere else and it's through this support that we were able to
[40:08] accomplish this. I just want to highlight sources, the self-story white rock
[40:14] chamber of commerce. We had numerous businesses who showed up providing donations
[40:18] wanting to speak to individuals as well, the local rotary. We had community
[40:23] champions. You just heard from one Cheryl, Cheryl, Lake Lauer earlier as well as
[40:30] PH2H, the RCMP I mentioned too.
[40:33] So numerous supports that really came together to get this done.
[40:37] But if I can offer one last thing of gratitude in closing,
[40:41] it's that this really is something that requires thank you.
[40:46] And it's thank you not on behalf of someone who lives out here,
[40:49] but or someone who leads an organization.
[40:52] But it's on behalf of the individuals who really don't have a voice.
[40:55] And on behalf of all those lives that were saved,
[40:58] Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[41:00] Thank you, and appreciate all your hard work.
[41:10] Council, do you have any questions for Mr. Tatley?
[41:13] Not saying any.
[41:14] Thank you so much.
[41:17] Okay, I'll take a motion to receive, please.
[41:19] Move received.
[41:21] Discussion?
[41:22] Seeing none, all those in favor?
[41:24] Opposed?
[41:25] Carried.
[41:25] Okay, we're going to move on to the Federal Housing Accelerator Fund
[41:28] Application Requirements, and that's over to you, Ms. Berry.
[41:31] very. Thank you, Mayor Nate. So it's a rather lengthy report before Council, so I won't
[41:38] go through all of the details in it. Thank you. You're welcome. So essentially in 2022,
[41:48] the federal government announced that they would be putting forward $4 billion that municipalities
[41:54] across the country, local governments across the country could apply for in order to increase
[41:59] housing a country-wide essentially. So at the time that this report was drafted the application
[42:10] portal for the Housing Accelerator Fund had actually not yet opened, but it did in fact
[42:14] open right after the report was submitted. So it opened last week and it is going to be
[42:20] open for a period of I believe it's 45 days. It's open until mid-August. So it's not a very large window
[42:26] of time to put together an application. So this report is really intended to provide
[42:30] counsel with information on what an application would entail and also to highlight some
[42:36] of the commitments that counsel would then and the city would then need to be obligated
[42:41] to make if we were successful in receiving a grant from the from C-MHC.
[42:49] So I've summarized in the report the application criteria. One of those is that the city would
[42:55] need to develop an action plan that sets out how seven of the prescribed initiatives that
[43:01] the same HC has laid out will be achieved. So I've identified all 25 of the actions that
[43:07] they had listed and provided a little bit of commentary underneath each so that Council's
[43:13] aware of how this may impact the city or may be impacted by some of the work that's already
[43:18] ongoing or how it relates to the city at any rate at this point in time.
[43:22] So, Council would need to select seven of those and would need to be able to commit
[43:29] to completing those seven, if successful in the grant awarding.
[43:37] In addition to those seven, Council also as a city would need to demonstrate how those
[43:43] targets are going to increase housing in the community.
[43:46] I think it's about three or four different releases of funds.
[43:53] So I think what is important to highlight with this is that there are some other criteria
[44:00] that we don't necessarily have the answers to yet as to what the application is for the
[44:05] city with respect to submitting an application.
[44:09] One of those is that we need to in selecting the different action initiatives that the city
[44:14] be taking those seven from the list of 25. We need to be able to confirm that we have
[44:19] the resources in the capacity and the expertise and authority that would be needed in order
[44:24] to implement those. They're all supposed to be new initiatives, so not initiatives
[44:29] that we've already started. So getting a better understanding of what new means would be
[44:35] part of the ask that we would go back to the CMHC to try to get a feel for. Because there's
[44:41] things on the list that Council is already looking to initiate or are already underway to
[44:46] a certain degree.
[44:49] Each initiative has to be accompanied by a justification outlining
[44:53] how the initiative itself is going to increase the provision of housing and the time
[45:00] But we need to, in selecting the different action initiatives that the city would be taking, those seven from the list of 25. We need to be able to confirm that we have the resources and the capacity and the expertise and authority that would be needed in order to implement those. They're all supposed to be new initiatives, so not initiatives that we've already started. So getting a better understanding of what new means is going to be part of the ask that we would go back to the CMHC to try to get a, you know, a feel for.
[45:29] because there's things on the list that councils are already looking to initiate or are already
[45:35] underway to a certain degree.
[45:38] Each initiative has to be accompanied by
[45:41] a justification outlining how the initiative itself is going to increase
[45:46] the provision of housing and the timeline for the provision of that housing to speed it up.
[45:53] And lastly, the application has to be accompanied by an attestation from the city's chief
[45:57] financial officer on the viability of the plan as well for each of the seven
[46:02] actions. So we had flagged some considerations and trying to get a better
[46:09] understanding of the financial impact of the actions and what that means is
[46:15] definitely one of those that we've flagged as a concern. Again we also need to
[46:20] understand if the required housing targets are reasonably achievable for the
[46:25] of White Rock given our, you know, the size of our community and just how it fits within
[46:31] the White Rock umbrella.
[46:34] And then the other thing to note is that if successful in being awarded the grant
[46:40] should an application be submitted, these were then committing to completing these actions.
[46:45] So we need to have an understanding as to what the implementation of these actions has
[46:52] on our resourcing and on our capacity and on some of council's other strategic priorities
[46:57] that have been identified. So it won't simply be affecting one department. It will be
[47:02] likely departmentally across the board as far as how these actions will come into play.
[47:11] So that's really the report in a bit of a nutshell. What we are recommending at this time is that
[47:18] if council should want to pursue an application because of the very tight window and the amount
[47:24] of work that will be involved in actually preparing the application. We are recommending
[47:29] that council authorize a $15,000 budget so that we can utilize the services of a consultant
[47:37] in order to prepare the application. And the other recommendation is to direct staff
[47:45] to identify which strategic and departmental priorities are recommended to be paused in order
[47:50] to allocate resources towards this project.
[47:54] Great, thank you, Ms. Berry.
[47:56] I'm supportive of your recommendations, but back to part of your statements there,
[48:03] when they ask us to commit to a housing supply growth target that increases our annual average growth by 10%,
[48:09] what is our annual average growth?
[48:11] is that over five years or over a couple years,
[48:15] like how do they, do you know in the report?
[48:18] And then to add to that, it must be at least 1.1%.
[48:21] So it's clear as much, like what are they asking us?
[48:24] What numbers?
[48:26] So the annual would be over the period of time
[48:30] that the, I think I guess it's a four year window essentially
[48:35] that we'd be looking at from the project.
[48:41] So that's the four years that we would be looking at.
[48:43] So starting 2023.
[48:44] So it would be starting from implementation.
[48:46] We'd be looking to get that annual, that average annually.
[48:50] And then the, so that's an overall increase of 10%
[48:54] and then we need to be demonstrating that we're growing
[48:58] at least that one point, at least 1.1% every year.
[49:02] They've got a calculator chart actually that they've prepared
[49:04] to help us with this because it is, it is confusing.
[49:10] And that's, there's a degree of work that will need to go into the preparation of the
[49:14] application so that we can understand if we're able to hit those targets.
[49:18] We have not been able yet to really dig deep into what that looks like at this point
[49:22] at the staff level, and that would be our recommendation for the consultants that can still look
[49:27] into that.
[49:28] Because I mean, we also have the regional growth strategy too, so how does this all combine
[49:32] and work?
[49:33] You know, because I mean, if they say white rock grows by 200 people a year, are they
[49:37] They're saying we just have to increase 20 to satisfy it?
[49:41] You know what I mean?
[49:42] It just, to me, seems so up in the air and, of course, they've given us 45 days over
[49:47] the summer break to put this all together.
[49:49] So typical.
[49:51] But any questions from Council?
[49:54] Councillor Partridge.
[49:57] Through your worship to Ms. Barry.
[50:00] I'm actually not in favor of this, because first of all, this is great that the government
[50:08] is putting forth something to help with housing, but it's very blanket.
[50:12] It goes across, it's for everybody, regardless of how large your city is.
[50:16] There's no designation for a small city versus a medium versus population or anything.
[50:22] I'm concerned about the work and the strategic plans that we already have in place for staff,
[50:28] And this would definitely put them put it back as far as the work this is a lot of work we get we pay the $15,000.
[50:37] We have the report and now we are married to five years of doing all of these things that they say.
[50:46] And I'm just really concerned that we have our priorities and that has to take the back seat now to this so I'm not in favor of it.
[50:55] So there you go.
[50:55] Just comment.
[50:56] Yeah.
[50:57] Okay.
[50:57] Anyone else?
[50:58] Councillor Chessney.
[50:59] On the flip side, I would support this to be very honest.
[51:02] I think $15,000 will answer a lot of questions for us.
[51:05] This is council, previous councils have all specified housing, affordable housing, supportive
[51:10] housing is a very top priority.
[51:13] $15,000 is a lot of money to most people, but I think in the big picture of things.
[51:18] If it does push us closer to our goal, we can make that final decision after we receive
[51:24] the report back from the consultant.
[51:26] So, I would support the expenditure of $15,000 and to that extent, I'd move recommendations
[51:31] one, two, and three.
[51:33] Okay.
[51:34] Now, the seconder on that?
[51:36] Okay.
[51:37] Further discussion?
[51:38] Councillor Chung.
[51:39] Through the Chair to Ms. Thierry, am I hearing this right, that we spend $15,000.
[51:45] We don't have to specifically, once we find out the report, we don't really have to apply
[51:49] for this.
[51:50] It is a report $15,000 for us to find out what we need, is that right?
[51:55] That's very.
[51:57] Through the chair, so the $15,000 would be for the consultant to assist us in the preparation of an application,
[52:04] to assist us in making recommendations to counsel with regards to the specific actions,
[52:11] because counsel will need to select seven actions in order to support the application,
[52:16] to provide counsel with some understanding of the impact of those actions and the understanding of what our growth or dwelling unit, you know, targets might look like based on the actions that are selected as well.
[52:32] If I may continue.
[52:34] Let me rephrase it slightly differently what I'm saying is with that consultant also let's say this is not for us would they also then would they say to us okay for your city this size it doesn't make sense for you to apply for this would they or is it like it's going you going in hard through the chair so their their their work would be to assist us in the preparation of an application if it it appeared that it was not appropriate for an application that would be a staff recommend it
[53:04] recommendation to council at the time.
[53:07] There would be no obligation to apply at that point,
[53:10] but again, it is an investment up to that point.
[53:14] So the consultant will do a report and give it to staff,
[53:18] and the staff are going to recommend to us, okay?
[53:23] Anyone else have any questions for Ms. Berry?
[53:27] Oh, Councillor Taveau, sorry.
[53:29] Hello, sorry.
[53:31] Thank you, Mayor.
[53:32] Yeah, can you hear me okay?
[53:34] Yes.
[53:36] Yeah, quite a few questions I have which makes me uncomfortable with supporting this at this time.
[53:42] For example, which is hard to find $15,000 when I don't even know which 7 of those priorities we're going to use or initiate as we're going to follow.
[53:53] It's unclear about the growth rate as well as you brought up a mayor.
[53:56] is that 1.1 or tempsom above existing growth rate
[54:00] because the OCP is currently is written,
[54:02] we're having growth in the city.
[54:04] So the additional growth on top of that,
[54:06] and then I have no idea how much money
[54:08] would even qualify for,
[54:09] and then what we could even use it for.
[54:11] So for example, is this for a specific project,
[54:14] if it is for, say, housing for seniors?
[54:17] That's very interesting, but I don't know.
[54:20] So as I said, it's very nebulous at this point
[54:22] that it loves to be more concrete
[54:23] free before I authorize $15,000, so that's my comment.
[54:29] Okay, thank you, Councillor Chaubelle.
[54:31] Councillor Chaung.
[54:33] Through to Chair to Ms. Bair, I have one more question in regards to, if we were to
[54:36] get the $15,000, would this also pull staff's time away from us catching up on permit process,
[54:43] you know, applications that's in line to do this work?
[54:47] Ms. Bair.
[54:47] Through the Chair, yes, there would be significant staff involvement regardless of a consultant.
[54:52] Yes.
[54:55] I'm just going to throw in there to Councillor Chung.
[54:58] One of our priorities is to do affordable housing and if the government's got $4 billion
[55:04] to throw around Canada, I want to get a chunk of it.
[55:07] So I will spend $15,000 to find out if we should or shouldn't and we'll make the decision
[55:13] at that time.
[55:14] So that's my two cents.
[55:16] Councillor Clause.
[55:18] I also would support this project.
[55:23] I do believe that $15,000 in the grand scheme of renting our city is not a lot of money.
[55:32] And through the Mayor to Ms. Barry, the 45 days that we'd be hiring a consultant at this
[55:39] point, that would be the only staff commitment that we would be making.
[55:43] Is that correct?
[55:45] Through the chair, no, we would need to begin work with that consultant immediately on
[55:50] the preparation of an application, because the application itself has to be submitted
[55:55] within that 45-day window, which is I think it's August 18th is the deadline.
[56:00] Correct, so that's what I was, that's what I was meaning, sorry, was that after 45 days,
[56:06] we would have to make a decision whether to go any further or not.
[56:11] Through the trip prior to the 45 days.
[56:14] Which is a tight time frame because with holidays and council break in August, but I mean
[56:19] that's typical when there's money to be thrown around.
[56:22] They throw it at you real quick and get your ducks in a row.
[56:26] Councillor Chung, you've got your light on or you asked me a question.
[56:30] Not seeing any further?
[56:32] I'm going to call a question.
[56:33] Oh, Councillor Chivalin.
[56:34] Sorry.
[56:35] Yeah.
[56:36] And thank you very much, Mary.
[56:37] Sorry.
[56:37] One quick comment.
[56:38] How, when would we know before I make my vote, when would we know which seven, this question
[56:42] to me was very, which seven of these action items we would choose?
[56:46] And I say that's very, very important because some are, I'm completely in agreement with,
[56:50] for example, encouraging accessory dwelling, so that's fantastic, right?
[56:56] Other ones I have big questions with, so I, that's my concern.
[57:01] So when would we decide what are seven action items?
[57:03] Okay.
[57:05] Good question.
[57:05] Ms. Berry, can you answer that?
[57:07] So, that's something we would have to report back to Council on.
[57:10] We'd have to do an assessment of all the actions and determine what is the most appropriate
[57:14] for the city to consider selecting, but also to understand what things that aren't already
[57:22] underway means, because it can be some things that are initiated at the early stage in their
[57:29] initiation.
[57:31] But, if it's already a project that's half done, I'm not sure that that would apply,
[57:34] And that's a piece that we need to better understand.
[57:37] And I will be attending some webinars on this later this week, actually.
[57:41] So no holidays for you, Councillor or Councillor.
[57:45] Mr. Ferrell.
[57:46] Thank you, Horsche.
[57:47] But I just want to mention that these most likely require a special meeting in Dewey and August.
[57:52] I don't expect we don't have one more meeting of council in a couple of weeks.
[57:56] And then we're breaking until the middle of September.
[57:58] And the application is due on August 18th.
[58:02] So this will require one, if there's no more minutes of council, to make decisions.
[58:07] Okay. Councilor Chesney.
[58:10] Thank you, sir. The chair is a staff. So the federal government gave everybody 45 days or
[58:15] is this report just not made it up to the top of the heap until very recently?
[58:20] It just came out, I think. Mr. Fraudino?
[58:24] This has been going on for a while. However, we just don't have capacity to be able to get to
[58:29] until today. This is the reality that we have. We have other priorities, Councillor Chessney.
[58:35] The application window just opened. We didn't know that. And so we thought that we have
[58:40] a little more time, but unfortunately, there's not the time that we're giving at this time,
[58:44] so thank you.
[58:46] Okay. Seeing no further discussion, I'm going to call a question. All those in favour?
[58:52] Opposed? Councillor Partridge and Councillor Tavellian opposed? Motion carries.
[58:58] Let's move on, Council.
[59:00] We're going to not
[59:06] throw in anything?
[59:07] What?
[59:10] Okay.
[59:11] You can all escape if you want.
[59:13] You can go.
[59:15] 15570, Oxingham Avenue, by law 2365, this is for completion of final adoption pre-wet
[59:24] courses.
[59:24] So, Ms. Berry.
[59:26] Certainly.
[59:26] I'll keep this very brief.
[59:27] This staff report essentially is intended to confirm that all of the conditions of adoption
[59:33] that Council placed on this particular zoning application have now been met.
[59:39] Third reading was granted in February of 2021, and the conditions that needed to be met
[59:45] were ensuring that all the engineering requirements and issues were completed, a section 219 covenant
[59:50] to restrict basement suites was registered on title and demolition of the existing home.
[59:56] So, with the completion of those requirements, a staffer recommend.
[1:00:00] pending that council adopt the by-law. Thank you, Ms. Barry. This is just motion to receive.
[1:00:06] Move received.
[1:00:07] Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Opposed? I think we lost Councillor Chavelleon.
[1:00:16] You in favor? Yes, no? Yes.
[1:00:19] In favor? Okay. Yes. Okay, motion passes.
[1:00:28] I'm just waiting for the shut the door so it's not so loud.
[1:00:31] Okay. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. Okay. Now we're moving to development variance permit number 453, and this is 15661 Roper Avenue, Ms. Berry.
[1:00:43] This is the same development variance permit. That was a subject of the presentation earlier this evening, so I won't represent, but if there are questions, I'm happy to answer them.
[1:00:51] Okay. Thank you. Council. Do you have a question?
[1:00:56] Move recommendation. Okay. Move receipt. Have a seconder.
[1:01:00] All those in favour?
[1:01:02] Opposed?
[1:01:03] Your opposed, Councillor Chavelle?
[1:01:05] Or your in favour?
[1:01:07] In favour.
[1:01:08] Okay.
[1:01:10] Motion passes.
[1:01:11] Thank you.
[1:01:12] Next, we're going to summer events.
[1:01:13] Request to serve liquor.
[1:01:14] And that's from Mr. Wolgar.
[1:01:17] Thank you, Your Worship.
[1:01:19] This report details of summer events.
[1:01:23] And that have previously been approved.
[1:01:25] We've approved a picnic on the pier,
[1:01:27] shakutari on the pier, and craft beer festival.
[1:01:31] And our request we're seeking council authorization
[1:01:34] for them to have a request to serve liquor
[1:01:37] at each of these events, and happy to answer any questions.
[1:01:40] Thank you, Mr. Wohlgarh.
[1:01:42] Just scooting over there.
[1:01:43] I had one quick question, and that was just on page 60
[1:01:47] under the craft beer festival.
[1:01:49] It's got 9 a.m., are they serving alcohol at 9 a.m.?
[1:01:53] That's a little early.
[1:01:57] Thank you, Your Worship. That's what time they set up in the morning.
[1:02:00] Okay, so they're not actually serving alcohol at 90. I can't imagine they get a license for that.
[1:02:05] Okay, that was my only question on that. Anyone else?
[1:02:09] Councillor Chesney, you're smiling. You'd be there at night?
[1:02:13] It's a little late, but I could probably just respond to that.
[1:02:18] Okay. Council, I need...
[1:02:21] Recommendations one and two can you read them off please for miss Arthur you smooth recommendation number one
[1:02:28] Okay, for the receipt you need a folder who then number two, okay, and then
[1:02:33] Recommendation number two, please that has picnic on the pier
[1:02:36] Charcuterie on the pier and craft beer festival correct, okay, do I have a seconder?
[1:02:41] Any discussion seeing none all those in favor?
[1:02:45] Opposed carried unanimously
[1:02:46] Okay, next we got commemorative sign for the Canadian Forces snowbirds, and that is Mr.
[1:02:52] Wohlgar or Mrs. Silver's.
[1:02:54] I don't know who's doing that with this rollback.
[1:02:56] Okay.
[1:02:56] Thank you, Rochelle.
[1:02:58] The Canadian Forces snowbirds demonstration team first requested the installation of a commemorative
[1:03:03] sign in 2021, but a suitable location could not be determined at that time.
[1:03:09] The snowbirds are committed to doing another visit and demonstration in White Rock on August
[1:03:15] the 8th of this summer. Staff are seeking endorsement for the installation of a commemorative
[1:03:21] sign, recognizing the city's longstanding relationship with the Canadian forces, snow
[1:03:28] birds, or demonstration team. Happy to answer any questions.
[1:03:31] Thank you, Mr. Wilgart. Councillor Chessley.
[1:03:34] Thank you, Mr. Wilgart. Two quick questions. Is it the demonstration in August or simply
[1:03:39] a fly-by.
[1:03:42] Through your worship to Councillor Chasney, we're understanding it's to be more
[1:03:46] of a fly-by. Thank you. Second question. Previous Council,
[1:03:51] I didn't see anything in this report, but at one point in time, the previous Council was
[1:03:55] asked to commit to a plaque that would identify and honor the memory of the snowboard pilot
[1:04:03] that was killed in camelops. That's not part of this plaque. Do you have the actual
[1:04:08] No wording?
[1:04:09] Through your worship to Councillor Chasney, correct, we're not acknowledging the pilot
[1:04:17] that passed away, but the specific plaque is on the penics B of the report, and we've
[1:04:23] laid out all of the information that would be in that particular plaque.
[1:04:27] Thank you.
[1:04:30] Okay, I don't see any other questions.
[1:04:32] Mr. Woolgar, my question is, why do we choose the promenade and not the peer for this?
[1:04:37] Because what I've heard from the snowbirds in my discussions is they use it as a beacon when they're flying by and doing their formations, so that's just wondering why?
[1:04:48] Thank you, Worship.
[1:04:51] There's many locations that we could have picked down there or recommended down there.
[1:04:57] There's a lot of signage on the pier as it is.
[1:05:00] We found a location that's right beside the pier and we think it's got a good visibility for the waterfront there.
[1:05:07] Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no further discussion, we've got a recommendation in front of us council. What's your wish? Move for a combination one and two.
[1:05:16] There's three. One, two and three. One, two and three. Second. Any further discussion? Seeing none. All those in favour? Opposed? Carried unanimously. Okay. Next we've got council and committee procedures by law. And this will be Ms. Arthur.
[1:05:31] Thank you, Mayor. This corporate report has been brought forward in accordance with Council
[1:05:36] direction requesting an amending bylaw for the Council and Committee procedure bylaw
[1:05:41] in regard to question and answer period. The proposed bylaw mends question and answer
[1:05:46] period going back to being held in person and only having comments and questions regarding
[1:05:51] an item that is within the current evening agenda. Staff at this time have also taken the
[1:05:58] opportunity to request council to consider moving the agenda publication deadline from
[1:06:04] Wednesdays to Thursdays. That's giving the opportunity for when Mary and the CAO review
[1:06:09] the draft agenda, it would include the full corporate reports as well. This report is on
[1:06:15] the agenda for information purposes with the proposed bylaw 2475 being considered next
[1:06:20] It's under item 9.1A.
[1:06:24] Thank you, Mr. Arthur.
[1:06:26] Motion to receive?
[1:06:28] Move the receipt.
[1:06:29] Seconder.
[1:06:31] Got a seconder?
[1:06:32] Second.
[1:06:33] OK.
[1:06:33] No discussion.
[1:06:34] All those in favor?
[1:06:35] Oh, sorry.
[1:06:36] Councillor Chum.
[1:06:38] Through the chair, we had the speakers earlier
[1:06:42] on question and answer.
[1:06:44] And I understand.
[1:06:45] I mean, I agree with the fact that I believe
[1:06:48] agenda item should be related to what's on agenda for time management and also for relevance
[1:06:58] and purpose. However, hearing the concerns of the public, I think it may be beneficial
[1:07:02] to find some sort of middle ground. So what I'm thinking, if I may, is to adopt this, which
[1:07:11] Q&A for agenda items, only however, would council be open to a secondary question and answer
[1:07:21] period, perhaps at the end of council, where people can come and address their concerns,
[1:07:26] but there would be strict rules in regards to policies for respectful workplace or things
[1:07:35] that, you know, that may be, you know, there's no insults being thrown around. It has to be very controlled, if I may say it that way.
[1:07:42] I'm just throwing it out there because, you know, maybe we do a second one. That's my comment, my question, actually.
[1:07:50] Councillor Chesney.
[1:07:52] I would conclude in a curve with Councillor Chung. I hate to see it go disappear completely and be very honest,
[1:07:58] limiting it strictly to the items on the agenda prior to the agenda to make it almost
[1:08:03] impossible because if anybody comes and asks about a question on the agenda, the natural
[1:08:08] answer would be, well, we'll be discussing that later this evening. So I'd love to
[1:08:13] see us retain it in its decreased form, but at the very least have it put at the end of
[1:08:21] the council meeting. So in that fact, people can actually ask us a question about something
[1:08:26] that happened on the agenda that evening.
[1:08:29] Okay, Councilor Claesan.
[1:08:33] Thank you.
[1:08:35] I also would prefer that we continue with question and answer period, not necessarily
[1:08:43] related to items on the agenda.
[1:08:46] I do believe that we are elected to be accountable and transparent to the community and I think
[1:08:54] I think that this provides a forum for residents to come and express some concerns and I'd hate to see the community use the media for that kind of a forum any more than they already are.
[1:09:09] So, I would prefer that we limit the question and answer period to people who attend in person,
[1:09:19] but I think that it should be related to any talk like that the public would like to talk about.
[1:09:27] Okay, thank you.
[1:09:29] Councillor Chen.
[1:09:31] Through the chair to my fellow Councillors. I hear what you're saying, but we have seen abuse
[1:09:37] thrown at staff, we've seen abuse thrown at council members, and I don't think that's
[1:09:42] appropriate when someone is obviously perhaps angry and they're coming, you know, they haven't
[1:09:48] checked their motions, which is unfortunate, and they're saying things that are not appropriate
[1:09:51] and it's not respectful workplace. And because we do have staff, general, how would you propose
[1:09:57] that we don't have things being slamed at people, let's call that way, or an answer from staff
[1:10:04] So then they come to Council hoping for a different response.
[1:10:07] My question.
[1:10:09] To Councillor Classes, do you want to respond?
[1:10:12] You don't have to.
[1:10:15] Well, I do believe in a respectful workplace as well, which I think extends to City Councilors.
[1:10:21] And I believe in a respectful environment period.
[1:10:25] I think that we're reacting to a small amount of incidents that have happened.
[1:10:32] and I do think that we can control by monitoring the persons who are speaking at the question
[1:10:44] and answer period and we'll just have to strictly enforce the respectful workplace incidents.
[1:10:55] Councillor Chesney.
[1:10:57] You were, were we discussing 6.2 or were we jumped to 9.1?
[1:11:03] 628.
[1:11:03] 628.
[1:11:05] So we're basically just receiving for information.
[1:11:07] Yes.
[1:11:08] The discussion will come later.
[1:11:11] Well, she's welcome to discuss.
[1:11:13] Well, we have no option here to put forward any motions or vote on anything here.
[1:11:17] So really, I just moved the recommendation.
[1:11:19] We received 6.2.
[1:11:21] Okay.
[1:11:22] Are you fine with that, Councillor Chung?
[1:11:24] Yes.
[1:11:26] Oh, Councillor Travallion, you wanted to say something.
[1:11:30] Thank you very much, Mayor.
[1:11:31] I did want to, but if we're going to move on, have the debate continue at 9.1A, I can
[1:11:35] wait.
[1:11:35] Okay.
[1:11:36] Okay.
[1:11:37] So motion to receive.
[1:11:38] Did we do that already?
[1:11:40] We did.
[1:11:41] Okay.
[1:11:41] So all those in favour?
[1:11:42] Sorry, Mayor.
[1:11:43] Yeah, to vote.
[1:11:44] Just to vote.
[1:11:45] Yes.
[1:11:46] All those in favour?
[1:11:47] Opposed?
[1:11:48] Carried unanimously.
[1:11:49] Okay.
[1:11:50] So we'll move down to bylaws.
[1:11:51] So now we are at 9.1A.
[1:11:53] Okay, by-law 2475, Council and committee procedure by-law.
[1:11:58] This is for first, second and third reading.
[1:12:01] Now, do you want to have more discussion?
[1:12:04] No.
[1:12:04] I think somebody has to move the recommendation first, don't they?
[1:12:07] No.
[1:12:08] No.
[1:12:09] Do you want to move first, second and third, someone?
[1:12:11] Move our recommendation.
[1:12:13] Okay.
[1:12:13] Do you have a seconder?
[1:12:14] Second.
[1:12:14] Okay.
[1:12:15] Discussion?
[1:12:17] Councilor Chessy.
[1:12:18] Yes, I can't possibly support this.
[1:12:21] I think the points have been made very clear.
[1:12:24] We did have some isolated incidents in the many years that I've been here on council.
[1:12:29] I don't think it's it's been abused as a matter of fact.
[1:12:32] I'd like to see more engagement by our community.
[1:12:34] It's a wonderful opportunity.
[1:12:36] It's right at the beginning of council.
[1:12:38] You don't have to sit through the entire council meeting.
[1:12:41] I don't think we should throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water.
[1:12:44] It's an opportunity for the community to come and speak to us.
[1:12:48] There have been some instances as Councillor Chung identified.
[1:12:53] I think, unfortunately, it comes back to the power of the chair, Mayor, and you may have
[1:12:57] to rule with an iron fist.
[1:13:00] But I really think we should continue on with question and answer period.
[1:13:05] So, if there is a separate motion, it will come at a different time.
[1:13:11] If it votes tonight, just limited to the agenda, but I won't be voting for it as it sits
[1:13:17] here right now.
[1:13:18] Thank you.
[1:13:18] Councillor Chavellum.
[1:13:21] Thank you very much, Mayor.
[1:13:22] I don't really know why we're having this debate again because we had this vote not long
[1:13:27] ago.
[1:13:28] I completely agree with the points that Mr. Petrallo made earlier on in Councillor Chesney.
[1:13:33] We want to encourage the public to contribute to discussion in their city.
[1:13:37] And it really is only half an hour a month at worst if it's, you're bradded that way.
[1:13:44] Sometimes people don't even, it can come at all to count, question and answer if you're
[1:13:48] at it all.
[1:13:48] Something to go very quickly.
[1:13:49] So, it's a very sharp period of time.
[1:13:52] I support the idea of asking residents not to complain about specific staff members or specific
[1:13:58] staff positions.
[1:13:59] But it's such an integral part of a functioning democracy that people can come before their
[1:14:03] council and share their thoughts and views.
[1:14:06] So as it is, IE2 cannot support it.
[1:14:09] Thank you.
[1:14:10] Okay.
[1:14:10] Thank you, Councillor.
[1:14:11] Councillor Partridge.
[1:14:15] Through the Chair.
[1:14:16] To everybody.
[1:14:18] I was the one who proposed this and we and White Rock actually is not the only city having
[1:14:25] issues with question and answer period.
[1:14:28] Like I said initially when I put it out there, there was a survey compiled of Metro Vancouver
[1:14:34] municipalities for 5,000 residents, 81.25% have no Q&A or agenda items only, 50% of
[1:14:41] municipalities have agenda only and 3, 31.25 have no Q&A. And the reason that is happening
[1:14:48] is because of the abuse.
[1:15:00] The use of the process of the Q&A opportunity. It's wonderful to hear it from the community, absolutely, but unfortunately, not only in our community, but others as well. It's being taken advantage of to belittle, criticize staff or council. And it's sad because that's not the purpose of it. I would love to hear what's happening in the community, but unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening. A council meeting is not a forum for
[1:15:29] criticism or to get a different response that they got from staff, which seems to be happening
[1:15:34] over and over again at all of our Q&As. I'm not suggesting that we prevent members of the
[1:15:39] public from providing their suggestions or criticisms or hearing them, but it is about the proper
[1:15:45] avenue of it. You can still send emails to counsel to staff, written correspondence. If you want
[1:15:54] to have a meeting with any of the counselors or the mayor, you can definitely do that. You can sign
[1:15:59] up as a delegation. Do a PowerPoint presentation. You know, you can use the request services. Nobody's
[1:16:06] taking away anything. We are just streamlining the process in doing council business. So that's why
[1:16:14] I put it forth. If it was an avenue where it was working where Q&A came, you know, we heard new ideas
[1:16:22] or things from the community, great, but what I'm witnessing is just a chance for the
[1:16:29] community to not be very nice to staff because they haven't received the answer that they
[1:16:36] wanted, because the staff is just doing their job adhering to the bylaws. So that's why
[1:16:41] I put this forth, and so I stand behind it.
[1:16:45] Thank you, Councillor Partridge.
[1:16:46] Anyone else? Councillor Chai?
[1:16:50] Through the Chair, the Councillor Partridge, would you consider postponing this and seeing
[1:16:55] if, let's say, we can control them with the Chair being more strict as per Councillor
[1:17:02] Chessney said, being more strict, if there's anything that they say, you know, staff didn't
[1:17:06] answer as we, like, stop right there. Or if there's a name being thrown, stop right there.
[1:17:12] Or if you know to try that because the number one concern is abuse and I hear what you're saying
[1:17:18] I've seen it too right but at the same time you know the public also wants to speak but if they're not
[1:17:23] We're behaving a certain way. I think we should be able to stop it right cut it so I'm just suggesting you don't have to
[1:17:32] postponing it perhaps for
[1:17:34] You know give it one more Q&A and see what happens and see if we can stop it
[1:17:38] I'm just suggesting I'm going to jump in on this one because
[1:17:40] As you say, rule with an iron fist, the words are already out of the mouth.
[1:17:46] By the time I can stop them.
[1:17:48] So either that's upset staff or a council member or, you know, whoever, if it comes out,
[1:17:56] I can't stop that.
[1:17:58] I can go, hey, you need to stop now or you need to leave the building, but it's already
[1:18:03] out.
[1:18:03] So, I don't agree, I agree with Councillor Partridge.
[1:18:07] Most of the points, the only thing you missed was phones.
[1:18:09] We have cell phones, and I have a city, you know, landline too.
[1:18:15] So I think what you're trying to do, Councillor Chang, is just add to it.
[1:18:20] You want to do agenda items only, but at the end, question and answer.
[1:18:25] So you're just giving it more, either stick with what we have, or go with what's on here.
[1:18:31] I mean, because to me, it just doesn't seem like you're trying to accomplish, right?
[1:18:36] Councillor Chesney.
[1:18:37] Thank you, Your Worship. Just in closing, I'll say in nine years I have been criticized. I have been
[1:18:42] demeaned at question and answer period and I knew coming into this room. I better have them
[1:18:47] thick skin. As far as staff being attacked, I don't agree with that. It's been a very isolated
[1:18:52] case. And as I say, I just don't want to see the baby thrown out with the bath water.
[1:18:57] Your Worship. Mr. Ferrell. Yeah, thank you very much. I'm just going to put on the fact that this is
[1:19:06] just need this happen quite a bit, and you don't hear the comments from
[1:19:10] the staff. I do every day after the
[1:19:12] consummating. This council is very supportive of the staff, and this is what I've
[1:19:16] been here since day one. So please do that. This is not an avenue to come and
[1:19:20] create that stuff. Even today you have two members of the public who came and
[1:19:24] didn't get the answer they wanted from the staff and they came to the
[1:19:26] council meeting to create that stuff. And that's exactly what we're trying to do.
[1:19:30] So if you want to support staff, this is your chance to support staff. If you don't
[1:19:34] I want to support staff, move on and put a status quo.
[1:19:39] Thank you, Mr. Ferro.
[1:19:42] Councillor Klaasin, sorry we don't take anything from the floor now.
[1:19:48] I'm sorry I do have to respectfully disagree with that.
[1:19:53] I support the staff fully, I may disagree with the staff at some point.
[1:20:01] I may disagree with the public at some point.
[1:20:04] But in my own business, I also have people who sometimes disagree with me, and I just
[1:20:11] think that's the nature of the workplace.
[1:20:13] I completely respect a respectful workplace, and as I said before, it would be ideal if
[1:20:20] we had a respectful world environment where there was never any criticism, but we are dealing
[1:20:27] with reality, and that's not reality, otherwise we'd have world peace.
[1:20:32] I just believe that half an hour a month is not a lot of time to allow the public to voice their opinion and yes, we need to put strict rules around it and hopefully the public would respect those rules.
[1:20:53] Okay. Councilor Chesney, then I'm going to call the question.
[1:20:56] Thank you very much. Through the Chair to Mr. Ferreiro, I disagree strongly with you
[1:21:01] by inferring that by staying the course, it's not respectful to staff. I think every single
[1:21:08] person on this council respects the efforts of the staff.
[1:21:13] So I really take exception with
[1:21:16] that comment.
[1:21:17] Okay, thank you. Again, let's move forward. I'm going to call the question.
[1:21:23] Oh, sorry. Do you have something to add Councillor Tavellian?
[1:21:28] I was going to add on as well, but I think we're going to move on. Thank you very much, Mayor.
[1:21:33] I just want to add to that as well. In my day job, criticism as a teacher comes to the territory as well.
[1:21:39] I mean, I can't imagine facing a rule that says parents can't criticize me or students can't
[1:21:44] criticized me. That's the nature of many of the jobs that we do. And we all know in
[1:21:49] public sector that this is, as someone else said, a place for a thick skin, especially
[1:21:55] for counsel. And I think maybe we could look at in the future, we'll see all those
[1:21:59] vocals, having a preamble before Q&A period where our residents are asked not to refer to
[1:22:05] staff. I mean, I'm fine with that. I said that from the beginning. We can have the preamble
[1:22:08] to say be respectful. Don't refer to staff members. Make your point. And then I understand
[1:22:14] your point where I can believe you do, cut them off when they go beyond that rule we set out for them.
[1:22:19] But fundamentally people need to be able to come before their council and have their
[1:22:23] two cents and share their concerns. Thank you very much. Thank you Councillor Chabellan
[1:22:28] and I think people can contact us in a lot of ways. Okay, I'm calling a question.
[1:22:33] All is in favor? Opposed? Okay, so motion fails. I've got Councillor Lawrence,
[1:22:41] Conference, Councilor class and Councilor Chesney and Councilor Chavellian.
[1:22:46] Okay, let's move on.
[1:22:47] Bylaw 2474, White Rock Financial Plan.
[1:22:52] And this is for two recommendations to receive and to give final.
[1:22:57] With recommendation one.
[1:22:59] Okay, all those in favor?
[1:23:02] Opposed?
[1:23:03] Are you opposed, Councilor Chavellian?
[1:23:06] In favor, I'll tell you what, I'll keep my hand, yes, how about that?
[1:23:12] Mayor, I'm just noting that the first recommendation is just to receive any written submissions
[1:23:17] but there were no written submissions, okay?
[1:23:20] Okay.
[1:23:20] So you're in favor, Councillor Chivine?
[1:23:23] Yes.
[1:23:23] Okay.
[1:23:24] So now we're going on to the second recommendation.
[1:23:28] Move recommendation number two.
[1:23:29] This is for final reading.
[1:23:31] All is in favor?
[1:23:33] Opposed?
[1:23:33] So that passes unanimously.
[1:23:37] Bylaw 2476, White Rock Collection, Removal Disposal, and this is for final reading.
[1:23:44] Move recommendation.
[1:23:47] All those in favor?
[1:23:49] Opposed?
[1:23:50] Carried.
[1:23:51] Okay.
[1:23:52] Move on to bylaw 2365, White Rock Zoning, and this is for 15570 Oxingham.
[1:23:58] This is for final reading, Council.
[1:24:01] Move recommendation.
[1:24:03] Second.
[1:24:04] All those in favor?
[1:24:05] Opposed?
[1:24:06] Carry.
[1:24:08] Now we go on to permits.
[1:24:09] Development variance permit 453, this 15661, Roper Avenue, and this is to approve the
[1:24:15] issuance of the development variance permit.
[1:24:20] Move recommendation.
[1:24:22] Have a seconder?
[1:24:26] Okay.
[1:24:27] Any discussion?
[1:24:28] All those in favor?
[1:24:29] Councillor Tavelli.
[1:24:32] Thank you very much, Mayor.
[1:24:33] Just a question from Miss Barry.
[1:24:35] What's the square footage of the proposed house?
[1:24:38] Square footage?
[1:24:39] Yeah, square footage.
[1:24:42] Ms. Berry.
[1:24:44] Would you have that information?
[1:24:46] Yes, sorry, Ms. Berry, too.
[1:24:49] So I don't actually think that I have that number.
[1:24:52] I'd have to check the attached pocket.
[1:24:54] Hang on a sec.
[1:24:57] Thank you very much.
[1:24:58] And the reason I asked if they heard some proponent say it's not a huge home.
[1:25:01] I'll just say it's a monster.
[1:25:02] I almost want to kind of judge for myself.
[1:25:03] Sorry,
[1:25:13] it's a very small print, I apologize.
[1:25:16] Or on the glasses.
[1:25:18] Give that a try.
[1:25:23] They're proposing a just under a 0.5 floor area ratio,
[1:25:29] which is consistent with the zone,
[1:25:31] and they're proposing a...
[1:25:35] It appears to be a 37.4% lot coverage,
[1:25:41] which is less than the maximum permitted.
[1:25:45] I just have to keep going to find the word.
[1:25:47] So it's less than what they could maximally build.
[1:25:50] They're just dealing with the setbacks.
[1:25:52] Yeah, that's good. Thank you, Mary.
[1:25:54] Okay. Moved in second.
[1:25:56] You have a discussion? Councillor Chaun?
[1:25:59] Sorry to share. I just want to make a comment.
[1:26:01] I did look at Google Maps and the existing house right now
[1:26:04] is a bungalow, one story.
[1:26:06] So when they go from 1000 square feet to 3000
[1:26:08] they're building the three levels.
[1:26:10] I looked at the work that went on, so.
[1:26:14] Okay, thanks for doing that research.
[1:26:17] Any more questions? Councillor Lawrence.
[1:26:20] Thank you, Mayor, for you to Ms. Berry.
[1:26:23] Is there any intention on putting a rental suite or anything like that in this particular redevelopment?
[1:26:30] Through the chair suites are permitted, so they would have that option if they wished to.
[1:26:34] Yeah. Okay, thank you for dragging continue. Yeah, my main focus is not to reduce the the potential of of living units at least within the within the city with this particular
[1:26:47] Development variant's permit. So if if that can still be maintained then then that's a positive thing. Okay, great. Okay, seeing no more. I'll call a question. All those in favor?
[1:26:58] the post carried unanimously. Okay, we'll move on to correspondence and shall need a motion
[1:27:05] to receive 10.1 AMB, that's ECOM annual report and Metro Vancouver board and brief.
[1:27:12] Motion to receive both. Okay. All those in favor?
[1:27:17] Opposed? Carried. Okay, we'll move on to Mayor and Council report. I've got a couple here.
[1:27:24] On Wednesday, June 28, I participated in the North Shore Wastewater Treatment Plan
[1:27:28] term with the Metro Vancouver Liquid Waste Committee members for the project overview.
[1:27:34] On Thursday, June 29, I participated in TransLink's Mayors Council meeting.
[1:27:38] Later in that evening, I had the pleasure of delivering remarks and swearing in the new directors
[1:27:42] of the South Surrey White Rock Chamber of Commerce, annual general meeting and mixer event.
[1:27:47] Friday, June 30, I attended Metro Vancouver Board of Directors Meeting in Burnaby.
[1:27:51] Saturday, July 1st, I had the pleasure of delivering festive remarks at the city's annual
[1:27:56] Canada Day by the Bay event. A shout out to all staff and dispensers and volunteers
[1:28:01] for delivering a fabulous event that was well received and attended. We received lots
[1:28:06] of positive comments, so thank you and well done. On Thursday, July 6th, I participated in
[1:28:12] the Metro Vancouver George Massey Crossing Task Force meeting. Later in that evening, I had
[1:28:16] the pleasure of welcoming everyone on stage of the first TD Concerts of the Peer Series
[1:28:21] that took place at Memorial Park.
[1:28:23] It was great to see so many people enjoying themselves
[1:28:25] the music, the restaurants and the shops
[1:28:27] along the waterfront were super busy.
[1:28:29] On Friday, July 7th, I had the pleasure
[1:28:32] of meeting with Stephanie Kadoo,
[1:28:33] Chief Accessibility Officer for Employment
[1:28:35] and Development Canada to discuss this accessibility.
[1:28:38] And thank you, Councillor Klauson,
[1:28:40] for joining me at that meeting,
[1:28:41] along with staff members.
[1:28:42] Later that afternoon, I participated
[1:28:44] in TransLink Mayor's Council
[1:28:45] on Regional Transportation Finance Committee.
[1:28:48] And on Sunday, July 9th, yesterday,
[1:28:50] They attended a softball reception for Canada Cup and had the pleasure of meeting the Canadian
[1:28:54] team captain and meeting some players and the coach from the team from the Ukraine.
[1:28:59] Congratulations to the Canada Cup organizers who raised funds to bring this team from
[1:29:03] the Ukraine to Canada.
[1:29:05] I can't imagine what these people have been going through with the war and hope that they
[1:29:09] find some joy while visiting us here in Canada and playing ball.
[1:29:13] Finally, I want to congratulate Team Samiyamu Rock of the Samiyamu Minor La Crosse Association
[1:29:19] who won the under 13 bronze medal in the BC Provincial Championships A division this weekend,
[1:29:25] well done to everyone on that team. That's my report. Anyone else want to join in?
[1:29:30] Councillor Partridge.
[1:29:33] Thank you, Mayor. I attended 10 events, but I am not going to tell you all 10.
[1:29:39] I'm just going to cherry pick a couple. June 27, I attended the 68th Annual White Rock Rotary
[1:29:46] installation dinner, which I am a member, and I was very surprised to receive
[1:29:51] rookie of the year for my volunteer work, so I did not expect that. I love being
[1:29:57] a Rotarian. It's pretty cool. And the other...
[1:30:00] The other one I want to point out is, I attended a meeting with John Wulgar, a director of recreation and culture, with a resident of Surrey regarding including more programming for children with special needs. And so that's an important thing and dear to my heart. And there's others, but there you go. That's all I'm going to give you. Okay, Councilor Chung. Through the chair. So on June 29th, the Sal Surrey White Rock Chamber, AGM, which a lot of us actually went to it. July 1st, Canada Day, well done team. That was amazing.
[1:30:29] July 8th, paint a town. I hope you guys had a chance to come down to see the Samoyamu
[1:30:34] Art Society date at this amazing, people got set up and painted anywhere, anything you wanted.
[1:30:40] And July 8th, I was the token person who got into the poor house collection.
[1:30:45] Oh, and that was at the pop-up gallery.
[1:30:47] Wonderful events, celebrating three local artists. And then, of course, the Canada Day reception last night was amazing.
[1:30:54] And thank you for filling in for me today, because I was at another event.
[1:30:57] Anyone else seen none? Oh Councillor Chesney. Thank you very much. Your worship just
[1:31:02] said regarding Canada the day. I don't know whether anyone else was up early the morning
[1:31:05] after, but I was absolutely blown away at how clean our city was with the thousands of
[1:31:12] people that came to watch the fireworks and the events. It was almost like, and it was
[1:31:17] 5.30 in the morning, by the way. So nobody had even been out to clean up anything yet.
[1:31:23] And I'd just like to quickly say regarding the baseball tournament, your worship, Canada
[1:31:27] a place tonight first game Australia 630 we can go and get dinner there and tomorrow
[1:31:32] team Ukraine 1030 and 330 it is absolutely an incredible if you've never seen the
[1:31:37] talent that comes to softball city by all means he do Thursday night concert at the
[1:31:42] pier the matinee at the memorial garden and if that's not your cup of tea come on down
[1:31:46] do a little swing dancing in memorial park 545 Saturday thank you thank you councillor
[1:31:52] President. Seeing no one else, I'm going to call for conclusion. Thank you everyone.
[1:31:57] Thank you. Have a nice holiday.