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>> I mean, I I feel for them. I really do.

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» Oh, uh, Councilwoman Burn's gonna leave

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>> She is the She is the queen. the goat.

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>> Hey, we've seriously we're thinking

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about just making you the go-to prayer

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version.

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>> That's right.

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>> Make a motion.

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>> You have a you have a short abbreviated

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version and a long

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» I'll now call to order this meeting of

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the White House City Council for today,

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August 24th, 2026. It is 6 p.m. Nichols,

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will you please call the RO?

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>> Yes, sir. James Wley,

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>> Zack Brisco,

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>> Bronell Burns,

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>> here. John Chambers

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>> Matt Lazar

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>> Excellent. Thank you. Please stand if

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you're able and join Councilwoman Burns

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as she leads us in a word of prayer.

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>> God, now we thank you for today. We

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thank you for your blessings. God, we

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thank you for your son, Jesus. God, we

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thank you for yet another opportunity to

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come back together again. God, thank you

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for the opportunity to serve this great

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community of White House, Texas. God, we

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ask that you continue to bless and give

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wisdom to the mayor, the city council

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members, Leslie White, and the entire

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staff that serves White House Texas.

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God, we ask that you continue to help us

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to listen to each other. Help us to

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consider each other views. And then,

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God, seek common ground. God, we ask a

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special blessing over those that are

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fighting the fires, those that are

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serving the people, um those that are

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serving the schools. God, just everyone

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that's serving, but in your name, we ask

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that you continue to keep us together.

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God, help us to remember words like

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unity and integrity as we move forward

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in today's discussion. God, we thank you

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and we love you. We ask that you bless

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the city that we all call home. In Jesus

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name we do pray. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> Please join the council in the pledge of

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allegiance. I alian to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all

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>> and the Texas flag.

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>> Honor the flag. I aliance to thee Texas

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one state

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one and indivisible.

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>> That sounded amazing. Thank you. Please

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Thank you, Councilwoman, for the prayer.

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>> All right, that takes us down to item D,

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of which we have none. So, we will move

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to item E, matters of community

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interest. Mrs. Black,

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>> mayor and council, as most of you all

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know, the climate vision weather radar

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has been placed to top the tower on.

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are expecting to have that fully

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operational. within the next 30 to 60

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days. So, we're really excited about

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that. National Night Out will be held on

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Tuesday, October 6th from 5 to 7 p.m.

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here at City Park. That's always a great

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time with our law enforcement,

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firefighters, other public safety

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personnel. Everyone can join us for

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that. And then, as of this past Friday,

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we have met our election deadlines and

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all candidates are unopposed. So, the

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next council meeting, we'll be bringing

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something before you cancel the November

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election for the mayor position

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and mayor. Yes, sir.

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>> We can add the cost of that back to our

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budget, right?

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>> All right. Anything else on the matter

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of community interest from council?

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» All right. That takes us down to the

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consent agenda.

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shall provide for items that require

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action by the council but where no

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discussion is anticipated by a single

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motion second majority vote. Items under

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this section are approved without

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further discussion or action. Any

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council member may request the removal

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of any item from the consent agenda in

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which case these items shall be

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discussed and voted upon separately.

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It's only one item on the consent agenda

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and that is approval of the minutes of

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the city council meeting on August 7th

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of 2026 and August the 10th of 2026. If

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there's no findings in those meeting

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minutes, I'll enter entertain a motion

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to approve the consent agenda as

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>> I'll make a motion to approve as

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>> Second. All right. I have a motion and a

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second. Any further discussion?

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>> Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

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>> With that, the agenda is completed.

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ordinances, resolutions, and public

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hearings. This is a continuence of the

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public hearing on a proposed 2026 27

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budget. So go ahead and enter into

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uh public hearing. So the time is 604

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council meeting into the public hearing.

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Is there anyone present that would like

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um the 2026 27 budget?

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after a long pause, I see there's no

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one. So, the time is 6:05 and I'll go

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ahead and close the public hearing and

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know if you want me to go back through

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some of the budget tax rate update

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before we get to proposing tax rate or

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if you'd rather wait.

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pretty quickly. We've covered most of it

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in our two prior public meetings, but

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I'll run through it pretty quickly here

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tonight. Tonight we have two action

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items before you. The first one is the

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budget public hearing. At the conclusion

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of the budget public hearing, state

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statute requires that you take some sort

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of action at the conclusion of tonight's

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public hearing. So the action needs to

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be that you will set formal action on

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hall. The second item before you tonight

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is a tax rate proposal and again that

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has very specific wording that you must

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make your motion when we get to that

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point. A look back at kind of where we

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are in the budgeting process. We

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presented the initial base budget in

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July. We held our budget workshop on

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August 7th. Took that feedback from the

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council and opened the public hearing on

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August 10th with a revised budget. We'll

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go over what all that includes here

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shortly. Tonight, we're continuing the

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public hearing and proposing the tax

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rate and then we will set everything for

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final adoption on September 22.

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Um, a little bit of note, as you all

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know, we've talked about this year

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significantly different than what we've

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seen in at least recent property tax

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setting years. our certified appraisal

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role was up just.7%.

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that number up around five or six%. Um,

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that our net taxable value decreased,

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which means our opportunity for revenue

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to fund city operations also decreased.

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with community growth, inflation, and

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service demand. The biggest reasoning

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for this reduction was due to changes in

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exemptions for business personal

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property and then a correction of an

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error that was made related to business

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personal property tax and last year's

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tax rate calculation. So while yes, we

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all look around and we see all the

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growth that's happening that's not

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translating into tax revenue growth for

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>> So that wasn't a city error.

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Um, so as I mentioned, we came back to

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you with a revised budget. This is just

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an overview of what changed in the

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general fund where we stand with

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revenues, expenditures, and then a

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forecasted margin of only 57,272,

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which is very thin for a budget of about

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$10 million the year. We feel like this

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is the best most prudent use of funds

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for the upcoming year. So that's kind of

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where we stand there. Um, and then was

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revised in the budget was to allow for

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four additional public safety positions,

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an investigator patrol officer, two

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full-time firefighters, the replacement

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of tasers for our police department, two

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AED replacements. Those are all

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I don't know what the A I can't remember

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>> you do have to press the button.

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>> Critical equipment if your heart stops

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and then an increase to and storm water

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repairs for both Rosebrook street

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repairs of about 50,000 and then a

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citywide roadway commission assessment.

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Um all of those things are added in the

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revised work program. Again, this will

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allow for three officers on every patrol

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shift for our police department and

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provide a second investigator which is

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critically needed as our population has

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continued to grow. Um our public safety

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departments have done a great job of

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keeping up but we're at a critical

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tipping point where we've got to have

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some additional if we want to maintain

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those service levels. Same for the fire

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department. This would allow for three

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full-time and one part-time firefighter

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per shift and would allow us to need

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those staffing models that are needed.

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A quick look at the tax rate reference

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points. The last time you we all spoke,

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we were thinking that the the rate would

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need to be at the divinous rate of 828.

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Miss Le and I did their financial

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advisors and tax attorneys and feel like

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that tonight we would recommend that you

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propose a rate of 792891

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which is three and a half cents below

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the minimum rate and five and a half

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cents below the voter approval rate. Um

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we understand that this is still a

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significant increase in what the current

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adopted tax rate is but it it is going

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to be used strictly to provide critical

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public safety services and roadway

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repairs. Um

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so this is how we came up with that

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scenario. So the M rate would be 493059

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the INS rate of 299832.

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One thing to note here we have to do

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statutos on our 2026 tax rate

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calculation sheet. What that rate showed

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what that worksheet showed was that the

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debt rate should be 335717.

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We were looking for any opportunity to

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not go up to the diminish rate of 82

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cents. And so what we are asking for the

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council to do is to use some fund

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balance both the general fund and the

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INS fund to help lower that rate.

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Um we feel like that's important. We

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think some of it will provide permanent

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rate relief, but a portion of it will

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only be for one year. We're we realized

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we're asking a lot here and so we wanted

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to make sure that we were doing what we

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can to find the right mix, but

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as we move forward.

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So, what this looks like is that the

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general fund would assume scheduled

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payments for the 2007 bond refunding and

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the 2021 fire truck obligations as they

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come due. Both of those two notes are

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scheduled to be paid off by the end of

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next year. The general fund would assume

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those payments out of the debt

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calculation.

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Then we would use additional funds from

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the debt service fund balance to pay

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interest only on the 2022 refunding and

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the 2018 C. That's that one time

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lowering of the rate just slightly so

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that we can keep it 80 cents for the

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upcoming year. We will see that again in

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our tax rate calculation next year. It's

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a one time thing. Jennifer, as I said,

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Jennifer and I did speak to our

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financial advisors. They felt like we

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had healthy fund balances in both the

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INS fund and the general fund to support

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this recommendation.

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So that again we can limit that increase

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as much as possible. So we would take

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that rate from 335717 to 29932.

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» Any questions on that? So, if you're if

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you were budgeting at home and you were

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looking for a way to lower basically

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your monthly payments on things, you

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would look for any savings that you

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might have that's beyond what you would

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need for emergency. And you would say,

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is there any debt that is one or two

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years away from being paid off

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completely? And if we put that excess

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fund balance towards it, then that's

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where the INS that's where the INS

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pennies. So, this change in the compared

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to what you saw last time doesn't

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represent anything falling off the

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budget. Any of those services that we

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saw that were that were there. It's just

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a way to pay off debt a little bit

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early, which we're paying principal only

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on at this point. Like the interest was paid. One of them was widening 346.

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You know, that's how old some of that

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debt is. Uh and just a way that we can

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use fund balance uh not for something

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that would be recurring again next year,

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but for permanent removal of the

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pennies. So, that seemed like a good use

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of fun balance. We're doing a onetime

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payment out of it to get rid of a

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permanent tax burden.

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» And again, we it's not paying it off

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early. It's just paying it as it comes

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to you. We didn't ask about paying it

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off early, but because it's principal

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only, there's no

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>> Oh, right. That's right. Yeah.

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>> So, we wouldn't save any on interest by

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paying it off early. It's just putting

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fund balance towards those payments,

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which is even smarter. I mean that that

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allows that money to stay in fund

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balance uh and be interest bearing while

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we while we make those payments. So even

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better.

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>> So again what this what this strategy

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does it uses our available reserves to

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reduce that INS levy requirement

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and you are allowed to do that. So you

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can go lower than what the tax rate

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calculation worksheet shows to be paid.

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You just cannot go above. So by lowering

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it we're well within state law to do so.

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Again, it does not or it does not

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eliminate our future debt service

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requirements. We have a 30year debt

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schedule that's planned out well in

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advance. One of the things that we run

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into is that we plan 30 years out based

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on the rules and allocations that we

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have today. So, when we issue debt in

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2025, we made those decisions based on

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our property tax values, how they've

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grown, and what the state legislature

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had those numbers at then. What they've

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done has changed the rules. So every

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time they give one group a greater

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exemption

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another we either have to cut services

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or another group has to make up the

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difference. And so that's one of the

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things that we're running into this

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year.

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I'm going to skip this. We covered where

399
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we've been and where we're headed again

400
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tonight. So this first item is to set

401
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the date for action and adoption for the

402
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budget for September 22nd at 6 p.m. And

403
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then on item number We will need to

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determine the tax rate to be formally

405
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proposed and the required public hearing

406
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and adoption also September 22.

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» So the first item needs to come out of

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act item G1 which is the public hearing.

409
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That's an action public hearing.

410
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Correct.

411
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>> Yes sir.

412
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>> So we are still in public hearing. Um,

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is there any more discussion from

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council?

415
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Okay.

416
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Yeah.

417
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>> So, I'd make a motion to schedule

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discussion, consideration, and possible

419
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adoption of FY25 and 2026 27.

420
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>> I'm sorry, 2627 annual operating budget

421
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for the regular meeting on Tuesday,

422
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September 22nd, 2026 at 6 p.m.

423
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>> All right. I have a motion and a second.

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Any further discussion on that item?

425
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Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

426
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>> I.

427
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>> Any oppose say no.

428
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» All right, with that the motion passes.

429
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We are ready to exit the public hearing.

430
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,760
Yes.

431
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,400
>> Yes, sir.

432
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>> All right, the time is 6:16. The public

433
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hearing is over. We're now back into the

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regular agenda. That brings us to item

435
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G2. Set the proposed 2026 27 tax rate.

436
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take a record vote and setting a public

437
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hearing date.

438
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» So, it's the PowerPoint you just did

439
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basically what you're going to do on

440
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:29,840
this one.

441
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,880
>> Yes, sir. I don't have anything

442
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,480
additional to add. It's hard to cover

443
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one without the other. So,

444
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>> I've just got those numbers back up

445
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here.

446
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» We need a motion.

447
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>> We do. If there's no further discussion,

448
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>> I'll make the motion to propose a total

449
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tax rate of 792891.

450
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per evaluation for the 2026 2027 fiscal

451
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year where 4493059

452
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will be used for maintenance and

453
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operations at 299832

454
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for interest and syncing funds

455
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and set the public hearing on the tax

456
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rate for 6 p.m. on September 22nd, 2026

457
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at 311 East Main Street, White House,

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Texas.

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>> Second.

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>> All right. Motion in a second. Further

461
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discussion

462
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hearing? None. All those in favor say I.

463
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>> Any opposed say no. That motion passes.

464
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>> All right. We'll see you all then. Um

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item G3. This is a long one. Public

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hearing discussion consideration action

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on a reasoning request from Hagen Oak

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subdivision at 600 block Hagen Road

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track 56 and 57. A two plus minus acre

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land in the E Brown survey A87 Smith

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County, Texas residential medium

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density. Planned development RMPD to

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residential medium density planned

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development RMPD amending planned

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development by constructing single

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family attached units with a minimum

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home size of 1600 square ft removing the

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private gate the dog park age

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restrictions and this is ordinance

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number 26-824-1

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Mr. Hooter.

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» Good evening Mayor and council.

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This request is to amend the existing

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residential medium density plan for

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approximately 2 acres and subdivision on

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road. The current proposal includes

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attached single family homes with the

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same footprint of what's already been

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approved medium home size of 1600 square

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ft. The removal of the private gate dog

491
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park and age restriction. A proposal for

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this same property was presented by a

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different developer and was denied by

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PNC and city council in January.

495
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However, the proposal had a different

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layout and development standards. This

497
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was presented to the planning and zoning

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commission last week and PNC recommended

499
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denial of this item. Uh the developer

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has decided to appeal and is also here

501
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to answer any questions that may come

502
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up.

503
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>> Okay.

504
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Any questions for Mr. before I go to

505
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public comments.

506
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>> So, what was the main difference between

507
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the one we denied back in January and

508
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this one?

509
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» Yes, sir. They were smaller and attached

510
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or detached. So, they were not

511
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» these are supposed to be 1600.

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» Any more questions for Mr.

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» Thank you, sir.

514
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All right, we had several people sign

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up. I'll start in the order that they

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were received. The first one to speak is

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Mr. Jimnip. If you come up and state

518
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your name and address for the record,

519
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please

520
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I'm sorry. Let me let me proceed. We got

521
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this is three minutes. So, public

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speaking is limited to to three minutes

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unless you are uh disabled and in need

524
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of assistance uh an interpreter or any

525
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other type of assistance. So, I'm going

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to start my clock. Mr.

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He probably already has it timed, but

528
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for anybody else that's speaking, I'm

529
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going to start the clock and uh I'm

530
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going to raise my hand at three minutes

531
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to let you know you've been address.

532
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>> Yes, sir. Uh name and address for the

533
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record, please.

534
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,360
>> Jim 813 Blackbird Wag here in White

535
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House. Mayor and council, thanks for

536
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
allowing me to speak. Hey, I'm opposed

537
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uh to the proposed amendment in item G3,

538
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but I want to be very clear about why. I

539
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don't live in the Sunny Meadows

540
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neighborhood. My concern is bigger than

541
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this particular piece of property.

542
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,159
Frankly, it's bigger than that one

543
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neighborhood. When city approves a plan

544
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development, people make decisions based

545
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on that approval. They buy homes, they

546
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build homes, they invest hundreds of

547
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thousands of dollars. They choose one

548
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960
neighborhood over another because they

549
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,120
have a reasonable expectation about

550
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,360
what's going to be built around them. I

551
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,360
believe the city has an obligation to

552
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,840
respect that revise. The development

553
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,440
contemplated here was approved with

554
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,600
certain characteristics as almost a

555
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,919
retirement community. It was gated. It

556
00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:12,000
had an age restriction. It included a

557
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480
dog park. These things help define the

558
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,320
nature of the development that people in

559
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,480
the surrounding area reasonably expected

560
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,720
would be built. The entire neighborhood

561
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960
was developed after the entire

562
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,640
neighborhood community has been

563
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,320
established. Those homeowners have

564
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320
already made their investment. Now we're

565
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,120
asking to materially change uh that

566
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,279
plan. That troubles me and I believe it

567
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,279
should trouble every one of you. I've

568
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,120
spoken about it here before and I

569
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,120
believe very strongly that this should

570
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,600
be prevented by ordinance. Homeowners

571
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080
should not be forced to stay vigilant to

572
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,840
protect their investment in our city.

573
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,240
That's what P&Z is supposed to do and

574
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,600
frankly that's what you guys are

575
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,240
supposed to do. So these citizens, these people built and invested in our

576
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,880
community with the belief that this

577
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,360
quiet little over 50 neighborhood was

578
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,279
going to be built in this little nook.

579
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,120
And then that's not we're planning for.

580
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,039
I'm not against small homes. I'm not

581
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,880
against affordable housing. I don't

582
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,799
think anybody is. But they're against it

583
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:10,480
where they built because that's the

584
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400
condition that they built under. And I

585
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,159
believe that's a contract we all have to

586
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:16,240
keep. Whether it's a legal contract or a

587
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000
moral contract, I believe it's one we

588
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080
all have to keep.

589
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,960
Thank you.

590
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,669
>> Thank you.

591
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:28,640
» All right. Next to speak is Thomas

592
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,159
Mosley. If you could come up and state

593
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:31,679
your name and address for the record,

594
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:33,440
please.

595
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,159
>> Yes. Do you have the pictures of the

596
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:38,400
houses that he's going to build in that

597
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,710
area or wants to build?

598
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,799
Look at that.

599
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:50,240
Now, we live around

600
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200
all around the fence. Now, when they

601
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,880
build this, is going to be well over.

602
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,830
So, they're down looking down.

603
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,159
Now, what are y'all?

604
00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:10,240
Because that is invasion of privacy.

605
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720
He knows that.

606
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,909
But he wants to still build

607
00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:22,159
This is my neck.

608
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:26,240
That tree is fully on his property. He

609
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,360
will not do anything with that tree. It

610
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,000
the line I mean the tree is growing into

611
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,960
the lines now. And if it pumps that

612
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,760
where I get my electricity, boom, run

613
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,760
out of electricity.

614
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640
He he doesn't do anything with it. He

615
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,279
never cleans it up. No. And now he wants

616
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,440
it.

617
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000
I say no.

618
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,750
>> Thank you, Mr. Mosley.

619
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,080
» Pass.

620
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,840
>> You're gonna pass. Okay.

621
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,279
>> Thank Thank you, ma'am. We'll go to the

622
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:05,510
next name.

623
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,440
» Uh Vicky Lancaster.

624
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Come up and state your name for the

625
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,149
record.

626
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:18,799
Hi,

627
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:23,760
my name is Lancaster. I live at 802.

628
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,240
So, this really

629
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,559
>> put that microphone closer.

630
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,760
>> I have not.

631
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000
But my problem is I spoke to the

632
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,720
gentleman after planning zoning

633
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,279
commission and said, you know, if you

634
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,279
want this approved,

635
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:44,399
you need to build

636
00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:47,279
or a little smaller two bedrooms for

637
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:48,960
seniors.

638
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,440
The first thing he said to me was, "No

639
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000
bank will give for a twobedroom home." I

640
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,510
see him build all the time for seniors.

641
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Then I questioned him

642
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520
about why did he have a problem building

643
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,399
for seniors? And he said, "Well, you

644
00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:11,120
know, if you don't want seniors,

645
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,919
I can can build three bedroom homes. We

646
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:15,760
can put seniors in there. They can stay

647
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,840
for 72 hours. We even rent it out. So

648
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,399
now I'm questioning

649
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:24,880
what type of person is this that is

650
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,520
wanting to build next to me that says

651
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,480
this to me outside of me.

652
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,039
My next question is they are wanting to

653
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:39,039
build threebedroom homes, family homes.

654
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,840
I have lived on road

655
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,159
since 1984.

656
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:46,799
So I have seen growth.

657
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,200
The little bit of growth that that will

658
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,240
cause with families is going to be

659
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,480
I can I used to live on Christopher. I

660
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,159
can remember when I could go to the end

661
00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:00,000
of Christopher

662
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,039
5 seconds and be on my way. You can't do

663
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,320
that on any road anymore at all. And now

664
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960
you're going to have this family

665
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,799
community that close to our

666
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,389
neighborhood.

667
00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:17,760
Where are all these people going to

668
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,630
park?

669
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,799
How is EMS going to get into something

670
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,919
where families live where there will end

671
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:33,600
up being cars parked in the road? If you

672
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,440
look at the in and out of this,

673
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,919
there There's no way that you're going

674
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:42,640
to be able to get fire truck in there

675
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,440
and get it out. You can't get a school

676
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,320
bus in there. The school bus will have

677
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,279
to, which I ran. The school bus does

678
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,320
stop on road. I love the bus driver. She

679
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,240
stops right in the middle of both lanes

680
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,640
and make sure all those cars stop. My

681
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,039
kids are safe. So, kudos to her.

682
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,320
But, I mean, this is just more added

683
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,480
congestion.

684
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,519
what it was originally planned for and I

685
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,200
gentlemen

686
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840
it was on what this was originally

687
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320
planned for was what we built our house

688
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,149
where we built it.

689
00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:26,310
» Thank you ma'am.

690
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080
All right. Up next is Mike Cherry. Come

691
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,840
on up. State your name and address for

692
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,669
the record.

693
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,679
Hello, my name is Mike Cherry. I live at

694
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,559
10:03 Jackie Ray White House in the

695
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,360
sunny edition. Uh it's good to see you

696
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,039
all again. We're back again.

697
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:47,600
>> Yes.

698
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,519
>> Uh I was here in January and I'm going

699
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,080
to sound like a broken record again, but

700
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,919
I said we start off with safety stuff

701
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:56,399
being old oil field guy. And if you go

702
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:59,519
up, excuse me, if you go up memory lane

703
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,480
and you take a left to go down, there is

704
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
a fence right there close to the road

705
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
and you cannot hardly I've been hit

706
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,600
twice turning left to go to my house.

707
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,440
You can't see around that fence and it

708
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,919
is a definite safety hazard. So you put

709
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:18,880
people right there on that corner, it's

710
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,799
going to be even a bigger safety hazard.

711
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:25,600
So I agree agree with her and you know I

712
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840
think this uh these guys are going to

713
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,960
build it for rental property and if

714
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760
there's no gated community or 55 old,

715
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,120
who knows what we're going to get in

716
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,039
there and it'll decrease our property

717
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,440
values again.

718
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,279
So, I guess you guys could quit seeing

719
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,360
us if we could get somebody to agree

720
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,279
what was originally designed, the

721
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,519
private gate and the dog park and the

722
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,440
age restrictions.

723
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360
So, I guess we'll just keep showing up

724
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,519
as long as they keep bringing it up.

725
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,519
>> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

726
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,559
All right. And our final speaker is

727
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,120
Lauren Hayden. Come up and state your

728
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,990
name and address for the record, please.

729
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,079
» Hello. Good afternoon. My name is

730
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,040
Lauren. I

731
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,000
in the Sunny Meadows neighborhood. I

732
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,839
wrote something today and I also emailed

733
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:22,000
all of you guys. Um, I was in a time

734
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,760
crunch. I found out about this meeting

735
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,960
at

736
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,280
trying to rally our neighborhood, get

737
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040
everybody here together to just voice

738
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,480
our opinions and our concerns. And I

739
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,359
know some of us did that last week. Um,

740
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:34,560
so I'm just going to kind of reiterate

741
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480
what a bunch of other people said and

742
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,000
some as well. Um, I'm really not

743
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,079
bothered with removing the gate or the

744
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,960
dog park. What I am most worried about

745
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,679
is the age restriction being removed.

746
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,079
Um, and just like Mr. said, a lot of

747
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:53,200
uses, the biggest investment we make in

748
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,839
our entire lives is our home. Um, so I

749
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:57,680
know when we, me and my husband built

750
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,200
our home, the original land was 55 and

751
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000
up, the dog park, the gate, and that was

752
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,920
just kind of reassuring to us. Um, I'm a

753
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,839
little hesitant about the transpar the

754
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:12,640
lack of transparency with this meeting.

755
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,160
called today. I didn't even know about

756
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,320
it. I guess I feel like I need to pay

757
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,920
more attention to the city council

758
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,000
agendas every month to see what's going

759
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,240
to pop up. Um I learned a little bit

760
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,000
about this process. I did not realize

761
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,079
when you get denied planning and zoning,

762
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,920
they can let come back to city council.

763
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,520
So note to self learned that um learning

764
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,880
moment for me. Um he did mention at

765
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,280
planning and zoning that there will be

766
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,359
an HOA and he will manage that. That's

767
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:42,400
all. That's great. What if you your

768
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640
house and somebody else moves in or what

769
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,079
if it gets resed again? You know,

770
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:47,520
there's all these what ifs. We don't

771
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,720
know what's going to happen. Um,

772
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,880
and who's to say someone rental property

773
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,560
can't come in and buy six houses and

774
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,400
then rent them out to whoever they want

775
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,079
to rent out to. Um, I'm also concerned

776
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,880
about the traffic, the amount of crime.

777
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Um, and again what Mr. Cherry said, that

778
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,560
intersection at memory and when you turn

779
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,760
left, I mean it's roll dice.

780
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,720
might not be really careful. Um, those

781
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,680
are just a few pieces of my concerns. I

782
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,200
hope I don't have to come back here, but

783
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,280
I hope you do see that we're persistent.

784
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
We welcome back voices. Um, and thank

785
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,440
you so much for your

786
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,720
>> Thank you. Thank you.

787
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,640
>> All right, that is everyone who signed

788
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,320
up to speak. Um, I understand that the

789
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,200
developer is here as well if council has

790
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,119
any questions of them. Um otherwise it's

791
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,320
open for conversation here.

792
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,800
>> How often can a developer come and

793
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,640
appeal?

794
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,400
>> So after this happened in January

795
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,160
brought an ordinance before you that

796
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,839
states that they have to wait at least

797
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:57,119
six months. If there aren't any substant

798
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:58,640
substantive

799
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,760
changes have a hard time talking tonight

800
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,440
without substantive changes they have to

801
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,359
wait six months. This is a different

802
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:08,560
developer than the law proposes in

803
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,760
January.

804
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,760
>> Can the same developer come back again

805
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,560
in six months?

806
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,870
>> They can.

807
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,599
So I was I was sitting where Miss uh

808
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,119
Councilwoman Burns is sitting whenever

809
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,359
we first approved uh this plan

810
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:29,359
development in March 24th of 2020. And I

811
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:30,880
went back and listened to the recording

812
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,320
of that of that meeting and we were

813
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,240
super excited because the the plan

814
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,560
development was somewhat new for the

815
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,400
city. Like we wanted we wanted

816
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,240
developers to have the opportunity to

817
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,400
take what was then residential low. I

818
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560
think all eight people that have bought

819
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
uh that property half of you bought the

820
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,320
property when it was res bought your

821
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,920
homes when it was residential low. The

822
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,000
other half bought your property with

823
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,040
this this zoning in place where it was

824
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,960
going to be a retirement community. you

825
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,240
know, was going to be 50 or older, it

826
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,839
was going to be a dog park, a picnic

827
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:01,920
area, a gate, sidewalks. They talked

828
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,240
about sidewalks in that meeting. Um, and

829
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,400
definitely the age restriction. And I'd

830
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,079
imagine, you know, buying your property

831
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,079
with the idea that, hey, maybe one day

832
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,440
mom and dad will live back there, right?

833
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,359
It's the retirement community. So, it

834
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:15,119
was almost a value ad to have it, you

835
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,640
know, as it was zoned, which is the

836
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880
purpose of of a plan development. You

837
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,359
take property that's residential low and

838
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:23,200
it's negotiation between the city and

839
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,280
the developer to try to make changes to

840
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359
it but changes that still retain the

841
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:28,880
value that you would get out of a

842
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,240
residential low development. So that's

843
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,160
what was that's what was proposed and it

844
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,200
was it was hard to get it through

845
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
planning and zoning even with those you

846
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,119
know with those concessions because a

847
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:40,480
couple of things people just see that it

848
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,800
was being reszoned as residential medium

849
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,720
plan developments were new to the city

850
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,160
they didn't trust that the city was

851
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,599
going to hold a developer to the

852
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,160
requirements that they put in place. Um

853
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,760
but it got through planning and zoning

854
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,119
there was about a month of conversation

855
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:54,480
before it finally made it to council

856
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,760
while they were talking to the citizens

857
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000
and mitigating those concerns. And then

858
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,359
it came to council and it was about a

859
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:00,960
20-minute conversation just full of

860
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,240
excitement, you know, that we had this

861
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,920
plan development that it was going to be

862
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,680
built this way. This was brand new to

863
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,280
White House, you know, for how it's

864
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,720
being built and the amenities is going

865
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,920
to bring. So, I think that that was I

866
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,920
mean that was a that was a hard thing to

867
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,920
move from residential low to residential

868
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,839
medium with all of those concessions in

869
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:21,760
place. And I would think as I've spoken

870
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,280
to tonight, we're kind of the stewards

871
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,240
of of the property here in White House.

872
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,160
When it's planned that way, when it's

873
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
negotiated that way, it's up to planning

874
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,320
and zoning and the city to make sure

875
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
that developers uh stick to those

876
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,240
negotiations that are made during that

877
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,760
process.

878
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Now, if we want to start over, we're

879
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,040
going to go back to residential low and

880
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960
then enter into a new contract where we

881
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,480
try to figure out what residential

882
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,040
medium plan development would look like.

883
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,800
That's great. But to me at this point to

884
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,079
take what was kind of hard to get

885
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,280
through in the first place and start

886
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,520
knocking stuff off of it. I feel like it

887
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,960
knocked some of the value off of what

888
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,720
was negotiated in the first place.

889
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,000
>> I think you hit the nail on the head

890
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,440
when you said that even at the time it

891
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,119
was hard to get through as it was

892
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,720
because they didn't trust that PNZ or

893
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,359
the council would uphold that endeavor.

894
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:10,240
I think that says a lot. You know, to me

895
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,839
this is nothing different than January

896
00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:14,000
where we had to overrule P&Z. This time

897
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,190
I think P&Z got it right.

898
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,560
All right. Any further discussion?

899
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,000
See, I'll entertain a motion.

900
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,760
>> I'll make the motion to deny the

901
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,599
resoning request for residential low

902
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,960
density R-M to residential medium

903
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,240
density R-M for property located in

904
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,800
Hagen Oak subdivision at 600 block Hagen

905
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Road, track 56 and 57 for their

906
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,320
construction.

907
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,520
>> Second.

908
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,800
>> I have a motion and a second. Any

909
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520
further discussion? Hearing none. All

910
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,040
those in favor say I.

911
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,839
>> I.

912
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:52,480
>> Any opposed say no. All right. With

913
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,720
that, the motion carries.

914
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,839
That brings us down to item G4.

915
00:40:57,839 --> 00:40:59,599
Discussion, consideration, and action on

916
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,359
awarding a bid for the Austin Bank

917
00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:03,119
elevated storage tank rehabilitation

918
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,560
project. Mr. Anderson

919
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,920
here to talk about the rehabilitation

920
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,910
elements.

921
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,119
This is something that we need to

922
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,960
with the TCDQ

923
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,990
and we've been working closely with

924
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,359
cost as much as we can to

925
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,079
make it as effective as we can and now

926
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,800
that we're done with the final design.

927
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,960
We've already done the bids and bids

928
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,599
came back ranging from $259,90

929
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:45,589
to $647,950.

930
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,319
The engineer's opinion of probable

931
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,040
construction cost was approximately

932
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,470
$578,000.

933
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,280
The lowest bidder that came in had to

934
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,800
withdraw due to lack of electrical

935
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,839
certification requirements as was put in

936
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,599
the attachment that I attached to

937
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:10,079
report. So the next lowest bid was for

938
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,640
code in

939
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,270
it at $38,700

940
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,119
which

941
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,040
bid it was $189,300

942
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,270
below the

943
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,309
That's

944
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,720
» we're seeing that more and more council

945
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,960
right now that projects are coming in

946
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,040
slightly or significantly under OBCC.

947
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,839
I think with the way the construction

948
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:44,480
market has changed since 2020 numbers

949
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,000
are kind of all over the place and you

950
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,640
never know which trade is going to be

951
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,839
where. So we saw that a little bit. Um

952
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,520
some things on for sale. I think it was

953
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,319
a little bit under the OPCC as well. We

954
00:42:56,319 --> 00:43:00,079
told the OPCC a little bit high and that

955
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,200
are a little bit lower than try and

956
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480
figure it out after the fact. So this is

957
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,280
good news. I will say council Lazarine

958
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,839
asked me earlier today could we apply

959
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:11,520
those savings to another project and the

960
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,839
short answer is no. We were already

961
00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:15,440
going to be using some fund balance for

962
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,720
some projects that were coming out of

963
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,240
the ACOS. It would just reduce the

964
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,680
amount of fund balance that we would

965
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,760
need to use to get these projects across

966
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,200
the finish line.

967
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,680
>> So when you say during this process you

968
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,079
were trying to find ways to cut cost.

969
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,319
Did that pay play a lot into this being

970
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:33,760
$189,000 cheaper or less expensive? No,

971
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,800
it's basically it'll be based on

972
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,520
alternates like say with the ladder on

973
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,200
the tank and they knew there was some

974
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,550
damage but

975
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,720
» so we had to bid those items separately.

976
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,800
It's not an automatic contractor gets

977
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,720
it. It's one of those things that the

978
00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:00,470
process keep

979
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960
» but if we put it in the basement

980
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,160
>> it's going to get done and it's going to

981
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,920
get spent and that's not always the best

982
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
>> question. This is inside and outside

983
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,359
paint.

984
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:12,319
>> Yes sir.

985
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,839
>> Um will the logo on the exterior of the

986
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:18,800
tank still is all included in this?

987
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,400
>> Yes sir. There be four logos

988
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
>> and a better lighting.

989
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,230
>> Yes sir. Any

990
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,800
more questions from council? You got a

991
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,960
price that came in below below estimate.

992
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,560
This one's easier than what it usually

993
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,200
is.

994
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,760
>> One more question. How long has it been

995
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:45,030
since the interior painted? I wonder

996
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,309
when the hanger was built

997
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,680
» and according to the

998
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:59,030
last hopefully.

999
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,160
» Any any other questions?

1000
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,400
>> All right. Thank you, sir.

1001
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,950
>> All right. Any discussion from council?

1002
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800
There's none. I'll entertain a motion.

1003
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,359
>> I'd like to make a motion to award the

1004
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:15,839
contract for the Austin Bank elevated

1005
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,640
storage tank rehabilitation project to

1006
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,520
Tanks Co. incorporated in the amount of

1007
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,400
$388,700

1008
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040
and to authorize the city manager to

1009
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,359
execute the necessary contract

1010
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:30,800
documents.

1011
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,079
>> Second.

1012
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:33,280
>> All right, we have a motion and a

1013
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,319
second. Any further discussion?

1014
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:38,240
Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

1015
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:38,800
>> I.

1016
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,359
>> Any opposed say no.

1017
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:44,000
>> With that, the motion carries.

1018
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,640
Thank you for your work on that, TJ.

1019
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,319
All right. Item number five, discussion,

1020
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,000
consideration, and action on the request

1021
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
for qualifications municipal complex.

1022
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,040
This one doesn't have money, just has

1023
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,319
skills, right? They are.

1024
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:57,599
>> Well, you can't base it on money. You

1025
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,040
can't basically pick on money. There is

1026
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,800
money involved.

1027
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,920
>> We just don't know yet.

1028
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
>> There always is.

1029
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,680
>> Mayor Council, we received 10

1030
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,359
submitts for the request for

1031
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:12,000
qualifications complex. All from highly

1032
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,560
qualified architecture firms. Just as a

1033
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,359
reminder, this project would include

1034
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:19,599
We have slated some funding for the

1035
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,599
renovation and expansion of city hall to

1036
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:24,560
include a new council chamber courtroom

1037
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,760
um a new fire station and some

1038
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
improvements to city park. So that was

1039
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,920
all included in the scope. We did

1040
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,880
receive again 10 subs for that. Staff

1041
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,640
reviewed the subs and is recommending

1042
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,480
that we move forward with Fitzpatrick's

1043
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,079
architects for the project. As you all

1044
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,079
know Fitzpatrick did the preliminary

1045
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,319
planning for that. One of the biggest

1046
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,400
factors that we were looking internally

1047
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
was not only qualifications, experience

1048
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,720
and how well they work together as a

1049
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,880
team, but also we wanted someone in the

1050
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,560
local area this time. We felt like that

1051
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,440
would serve us better.

1052
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,950
So again,

1053
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,640
» I worked with them a ton of class

1054
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,079
>> and they're the ones that found a way

1055
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,920
for the fire station to go over there to

1056
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,680
take what was going to be unused space

1057
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,240
out of the middle of the the renovations

1058
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,680
here. So

1059
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,599
>> I think they're already They're already

1060
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,920
kind of showing their value now. Did I

1061
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,880
hear that right? It's gonna be

1062
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920
everything. It's just all of it, right?

1063
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,400
So, is that going to be done

1064
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,160
mobilization wise? Are those projects

1065
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,040
going to be done?

1066
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,960
>> So, we are working with half on phasing

1067
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,280
and when we get Fitzpatrick SEC procured

1068
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,280
as our architect, we will work together

1069
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,200
on what that phasing will look like. The

1070
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,280
scope of services for architecture will

1071
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,760
cover all of those projects the intent.

1072
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,359
>> So, I know it's a game of cups and balls

1073
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:44,319
like where we're going to wind up

1074
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:46,240
putting while things are getting done.

1075
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,400
So everything's getting built at

1076
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,000
>> order that'll be in but we like having

1077
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,839
one architect team for all of those

1078
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,319
projects even if they're not all done

1079
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:57,839
>> simultaneously was important for the two

1080
00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:59,200
>> every year it gets more expensive. I

1081
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,480
mean if we can build if we can get them

1082
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,000
built tomorrow that'd be great all of

1083
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,480
them.

1084
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,599
>> But you're hoping to have them all done

1085
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,119
at one time right you enjoy the city

1086
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:05,920
center that much.

1087
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,319
>> I really um anything we can do to

1088
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:10,480
shorten that process that really painful

1089
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
construction process I'm all for.

1090
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Well, the cool part with them doing all

1091
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040
three projects, the the

1092
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,359
everything should be using the same

1093
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:21,760
stone

1094
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,200
idea and thought process.

1095
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,040
>> Yeah. Mobilization, delivery, like all

1096
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,359
those things that you can say matter.

1097
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:28,800
All those things.

1098
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,559
>> Yeah, the stone changes. If you got a

1099
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,160
different query, it's a different color.

1100
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,839
Yeah, it's weird.

1101
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:34,880
>> All the things you'd never think you

1102
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,960
have to think of. Um, so

1103
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,880
any discussion from council on this

1104
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,390
recommendation? Hearing

1105
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,960
no discussion, I'll entertain a motion.

1106
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,760
>> I'll make a motion to move to authorize

1107
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,240
city to negotiate and execute a

1108
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,480
professional service agreement with

1109
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,880
architect

1110
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,000
complex.

1111
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,960
>> Second.

1112
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,240
>> All right, I have a motion and a second.

1113
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,960
Any further discussion?

1114
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,280
Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

1115
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
>> Any opposed say no. With

1116
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:15,589
>> that motion carries. On to item G6,

1117
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,920
consider future agenda items. Oh my

1118
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,839
gosh,

1119
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:22,079
we have a shaping up to be a very full

1120
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,880
evening on September 22nd. As you all

1121
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,800
know, budget and tax rate items will be

1122
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,720
back before you. Some of these other

1123
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,359
things will be consent items like

1124
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,440
cancellation of election. We have a

1125
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,680
proclamation for national night out

1126
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160
current year budget amendments. Jennifer

1127
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,000
was laughing the other day. We were

1128
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,839
working in three budget years all at the

1129
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:43,599
same time. And so we've got some work to

1130
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,599
do to clean up the current fiscal year

1131
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:47,280
budget amendments, water, waste water,

1132
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,960
and garbage rates that are approved in

1133
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,319
your budget for the year. And then also

1134
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:54,800
we will be holding a public hearing for

1135
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:01,119
a substandard structure on Blackird.

1136
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,119
So that will be on September 22nd. This

1137
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:05,119
is moving through

1138
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,280
>> a substandard structure that

1139
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,640
>> this is to move through the legal

1140
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,040
process

1141
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,839
a structure up to code or to get it

1142
00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:15,760
removed if it cannot be brought up to

1143
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,280
code

1144
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,200
>> and at this point it's well below

1145
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,160
standard. So substandard is kind of

1146
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,400
yeah,

1147
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,430
right

1148
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,880
for release from ETJ.

1149
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,640
>> Oh yes, we do have someone that is

1150
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,280
requested to be released from the

1151
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,670
>> hurts my feelings.

1152
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,710
» Yeah, the proclamation. Um, so

1153
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,480
yeah, this proclamation for National

1154
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Night Out, it'll be after National Night

1155
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Out. When are we holding our

1156
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,960
>> September 22nd is our

1157
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,720
one month? Okay, good. Yeah. So, we'll

1158
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,000
get it ahead of that and I'll read it

1159
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,280
again that night. Um, the of National

1160
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,240
Night Out. Okay.

1161
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,559
>> Are we going to take a uh car apart,

1162
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,760
Chief? Take the top off

1163
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920
>> for safety reasons probably. Oh, the

1164
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,680
jaws of life. Yeah,

1165
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,200
>> man. It's not the It's not the early

1166
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,480
2000s.

1167
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,750
>> Wave pressure.

1168
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,359
» They used to disassemble couches. Like

1169
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:20,880
they get an old couch and, you know,

1170
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,720
jerk that thing apart, but yeah.

1171
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,200
>> Oh, well, maybe one year.

1172
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,960
>> There we go. All right. Anything else to

1173
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,640
add to this list? We're almost out of

1174
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,760
room. There's only like two more items

1175
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,119
you can add on there. We reduce our

1176
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:36,400
font. Um, anything else to add?

1177
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,000
All right. Hearing none. That takes us

1178
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,319
down to item H, administrative reports.

1179
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,319
Going to receive the reports from staff

1180
00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:44,400
for July.

1181
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,470
>> The part where we test our Wi-Fi.

1182
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:56,790
» Okay. Push through on that.

1183
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,950
» This is our smart sheet.

1184
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,000
» Here we go. The property tax, sales tax.

1185
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,720
Um,

1186
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,720
>> still up slightly, which is good.

1187
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:11,280
>> Yeah.

1188
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960
>> Are we seeing a hit in our water? I

1189
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,800
mean, this report's a month behind, but

1190
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,079
we're just now getting like some really

1191
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,359
dry, crispy grass out there. So,

1192
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:21,359
>> I'm hoping we'll have August building

1193
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:27,510
will go out here.

1194
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,359
As always, this last

1195
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:32,240
>> two or three months to lag behind a

1196
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:32,640
little bit.

1197
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,000
>> Part of the budgeting thing. You always

1198
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,309
hope we sell enough water to pay for it.

1199
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:42,000
» The sewer is always consistent. Oh,

1200
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,800
sorry.

1201
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,160
>> So, so that's why you see that

1202
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:54,470
>> it's a little ste

1203
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,920
» fees have definitely improved the last

1204
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,720
couple of years.

1205
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,680
>> They have. I was talking to Tom today.

1206
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,710
They are

1207
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:05,599
makes a difference.

1208
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:07,599
>> Well, actually look at 2025 looked like

1209
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,520
we were getting more than the green line

1210
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,400
showing

1211
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
>> up now. I think 2025 was it cooler? Is

1212
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040
that why we sold

1213
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,319
>> I think we had an

1214
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:23,040
onboard based on

1215
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,920
>> so when it's hot the kilowatt hours.

1216
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,559
>> Yeah. We also had a we had a service

1217
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,000
come in and identify additional

1218
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,319
franchise fees that might be exposed if

1219
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:33,839
we get any

1220
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:35,119
>> big fines off of that.

1221
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,240
>> Um we did have some fines. I don't know

1222
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,680
they how significant they were but I

1223
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,800
think we're closing in on the end of

1224
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,240
that agreement with them. I think we'll

1225
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,599
hit our third year in the spring.

1226
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:51,520
>> And they were commission based basically

1227
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,880
so we didn't lose any money if they

1228
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,559
didn't find

1229
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:59,589
Excellent.

1230
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,400
» Yeah, it's good to know what you got.

1231
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,270
>> Okay,

1232
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,910
see permitting

1233
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,400
residential permits. Man, 22 was a year,

1234
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,710
wasn't it? Look at that.

1235
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:28,150
» I know, right?

1236
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,950
Okay, looks good.

1237
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,520
» So, if you can pass on to the the young

1238
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,800
lady that does our code enforcement,

1239
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,870
she's doing very good.

1240
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,400
» Very responsive.

1241
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,599
>> Yes. And her job is seldomly easy. I'd

1242
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,200
imagine it's not always good news she's

1243
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,160
delivering there.

1244
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,440
>> Well, it seems like she has the right

1245
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,119
demeanor for it, too. It's not about

1246
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,359
just writing tickets and finding about

1247
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:54,960
correcting the problem. I appreciate

1248
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,280
that.

1249
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,559
>> She does a great job of getting

1250
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,119
compiance, not so much, you know,

1251
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:00,880
>> not enforcement.

1252
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,559
>> It's nice to have somebody without a gun

1253
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:03,920
on their head going up and telling their

1254
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,000
grass is too.

1255
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,119
>> Where possibly would the next future

1256
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,319
neighborhoods go in town? Any ideas

1257
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:14,559
about where they're headed?

1258
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:15,839
>> We have Park Meadows that's under

1259
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:18,800
construction. Um,

1260
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,000
that's the big one right now. I haven't

1261
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,720
heard any others. 346 East.

1262
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:27,040
We got plenty of property.

1263
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,400
>> Yeah, there's a lot of development.

1264
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,520
>> Yeah. Going in down there.

1265
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,800
>> Um Chief, there any uh any issues with

1266
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,319
people adhering to the burn ban that you

1267
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:40,079
know of?

1268
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:48,150
had any complaints any

1269
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,640
» the grass fire is just unbelievable and

1270
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,680
it across the county potential is too

1271
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,079
high.

1272
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:54,799
>> Yeah.

1273
00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:56,079
>> Sorry, the chiefs were sitting together.

1274
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:57,359
I didn't realize I said chief over there

1275
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:04,640
and they both both perked up. I mean can a can a pasture spontaneous combust

1276
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,200
just for heat

1277
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,920
>> without extremely extremely low

1278
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,270
>> electricity

1279
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,990
squirrel run through the grass.

1280
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,109
» All right.

1281
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:31,670
Service orders looking good.

1282
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,230
garage sale. Nobody wants

1283
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:49,190
» I'll just keep my stuff.

1284
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,280
Let's see. Crime by type.

1285
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,200
Those those graphs always look tall and

1286
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,040
you realize it's like two.

1287
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,880
>> Yeah, it's not there's not a times 10

1288
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,359
anywhere. Just

1289
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,839
>> chief Robson just stand on top of crime

1290
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:04,480
and

1291
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,240
>> three police on duty on a shift. That

1292
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,559
could that could decrease sometimes of

1293
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:14,160
course sickness, illness, whatever. But

1294
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,480
that's what we're shooting at in

1295
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,000
You just have to factor in training time

1296
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,079
FMLA. You have to factor in if one guy

1297
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:25,839
goes to jail, he could be there for two

1298
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:27,760
or three hours.

1299
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,559
>> Take someone.

1300
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,079
>> It's a lot easier to work down from

1301
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,799
three to two than it is to

1302
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,240
>> then if you go to a domestic then the

1303
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,520
countyy's either going to back you up or

1304
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:45,190
another city.

1305
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,549
people still speaking through our town.

1306
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,880
» We've had a change in the schedule for

1307
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,319
the school this year with the high

1308
00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:56,720
school, you know, starting later.

1309
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,440
>> It's been a noticeable amount of traffic

1310
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,880
decreased. Uh I think not just I mean on

1311
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,559
Acap of course because that's where the

1312
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,480
drop off is, but it seems like

1313
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,839
>> talking about the morning.

1314
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:08,640
>> Yes.

1315
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,359
>> Yeah. They they start late. You can

1316
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,760
actually get down Acertap at 7:30 in the

1317
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,200
morning. Afternoon's a little different

1318
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,319
now because you weren't used to that

1319
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:17,440
traffic in the afternoon,

1320
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,119
>> right?

1321
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,839
>> And it is great to see our police making

1322
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:25,440
the rounds during school after school

1323
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,480
time for the children and there's no

1324
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,760
tolerance I hope for speeders.

1325
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,240
>> Yeah, we don't want anybody hurt.

1326
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,760
>> That was a big gamble from the school.

1327
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,200
You know, they had to it got a lot of

1328
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,960
push back on those on those staggered

1329
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,160
start times, but it helped the bus

1330
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,720
routes. It helped the traffic appreciate

1331
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,359
that. our largest employer.

1332
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:47,119
>> Well, the chief police chief may cringe

1333
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:49,680
when I say this, but because the traffic

1334
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,839
has spread out more, it does give them a

1335
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:54,000
better opportunity to make traffic stops

1336
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,440
because there's a way to safely do it

1337
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
now.

1338
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:04,549
enforcement.

1339
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,000
» They could they could sit out in front

1340
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,720
of hallway school at when the high

1341
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,440
school lets out and they could swap

1342
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,040
lives with how many people they could

1343
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:21,910
probably get. You know,

1344
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:28,789
sales tax

1345
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:30,640
measure as your population grows.

1346
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:37,109
>> Yeah. The sales tax.

1347
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:38,559
» Yeah. If it would diminish, then that

1348
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:41,200
would insinuate that the retail economy

1349
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,040
is not evolving with it, right? So

1350
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,160
that's Yeah, that's a great thing to

1351
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,119
look at there. Appreciate that.

1352
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,880
Y'all had a good workshop in EDC last

1353
00:59:50,880 --> 01:00:08,950
time.

1354
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,119
» Wow,

1355
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:14,309
they're in the lead.

1356
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:16,880
All right, zooming on through some of

1357
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,400
these

1358
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,359
city center.

1359
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:21,359
>> The city center is doing good.

1360
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:23,040
>> Yeah, that graph is going in the right

1361
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,160
direction.

1362
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,599
>> Co-working day passes.

1363
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,839
>> Every time I go back there's

1364
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:28,880
>> Yeah, I never know what's going on

1365
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,119
there. There's some event or something.

1366
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,200
I think it's great.

1367
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,480
that the custodians of the city city

1368
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,470
center very

1369
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:48,470
» that's great

1370
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,000
» maybe a blood drive coming up maybe

1371
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,150
>> okay

1372
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,960
done it before I'll do it again

1373
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,319
all right any questions on the KPIs that

1374
01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:04,079
we saw Any question comments from

1375
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,000
council?

1376
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,440
We also had an income statement as a

1377
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,520
part of our agenda packet. Uh if there's

1378
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,280
any questions on that, we can take this

1379
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,950
at this time.

1380
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,559
» All right. Hearing none, there's no

1381
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:17,839
action on this item. So we're going to

1382
01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,599
move to item I, executive session, which

1383
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:20,960
we have none. So we're not going to J

1384
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,440
reconvene. That leads us to K adjourn.

1385
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,640
There's nothing else for this meeting.

1386
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,079
No old business or what have you. I'll

1387
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:27,920
entertain a motion to adjurnn. I'll make

1388
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,480
a motion council and mayor that we

1389
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,799
adjourn for the evening and everybody be

1390
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:34,480
cool and safe.

1391
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,440
>> Second.

1392
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,880
>> All right. I have a motion and a second.

1393
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Any further discussion?

1394
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

1395
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,280
>> I.

1396
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,880
>> Any oppose can stay here. The time is

1397
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,559
656.

1398
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,880
We are done.