Okay, we'll go ahead and get meeting started then. Uh we have any public comments.
Okay. Uh any announcements, Jesse? Yeah. Uh, a couple thing we do. Well,
let me start by saying we uh we found out Friday we all are we you all have to be reappointed. So,
unfortunately, we're not going to be able to vote tonight or elect officers, which I don't think we
have anything on the agenda to vote on. So, it's it's not the end of the world. Um, next meeting,
uh, they will be here to swear in again. Um, and we can elect officers and vote on everything
there. So we won't do approve minutes, but I'll leave those on the agenda for next month time
with this being a new board and kind of the way it's set up different. There was some confusion
there. We found come to our teaching from city manager's office on Friday that that had to be
done. So tomorrow on the council meeting, the mayor's going to uh [snorts] basically put in the
minutes that she approves the appointments, which is all of you again and then our two new members.
Uh so we'll we'll be back in business next to regular next next uh meeting. Um, let me start.
We We do have a kind of sad or a definitely a very sad announcement. Al Paige, who's kind of the head
guy for the Junior Golf Foundation, passed away this morning. Um, he's he's been dealing with
some health issues for a while. Um, him and his family obviously is 51 years old that program is
their that started it and put everything into it. Um, and we all know how big that is. So,
uh, going to be working over the next few weeks to come up with some type of probably permanently to
put one of the courses for for him. He definitely deserved. So, very sad to hear that today. Um,
on a much better junior golf note, uh, our junior tour, we finished up the regular season this past
uh, yesterday at SIM and now we have the Witchdaw Junior Cup on Sunday at Tex and that's the top
four in each division. We have five divisions be the top four in the point space. We have a
point system all year. So the top top four will compete. I know they're they're pretty excited
about that. We're going to try to make it feel like they're walking into the masters on Sunday.
Make it a big dip. So um it's been fun. We've had some very good turnout. Some good good golf this
year. Um and then the all of our junior golf the main the junior golf foundation today and tomorrow
it's the last regular week. Next week we have the play days and then that program is wrapped
up for the year. Um that's every depending on the course every Monday and Tuesday. U so it's as good
as that is it it puts a lot of strain on staff and the course and everything. So we'll be back
to to our normal play on Mondays and Tuesdays after next week. Um and then finally uh we do
have two new board members we're fortunate to have here. So um we've got Jane Alderson
and and Kent. You guys all know Kent. He was the liazison from the park board to golf board. Um,
and if if you don't mind, I'd like to give them a minute just to kind of introduce themselves
and anything they need to know. Okay. You want me to go first? Alphabetically, I am of course first
Mr. Goose. Um, my name is Jane Alderson. I have a volunteer. So, I like to volunteer for things.
That's the number one reason why I signed up. Um and um but I do have a particular uh background
in environmental science and uh worked for civil engineering groups over the years. I mainly work
in manufacturing. So I think I can bring a little bit of help as far as my scientific background.
So I decided to to serve on board. I will say that the area that you know a lot about is an area that
we don't know a lot about. So we're very excited to add. So, thank you for One of my buddies that I
uh hang out with uh is St. Trex and he used to be the uh grounds keeper who country club for
years and years and years. So, if I ever need any advice from I got I feel like I got an inside guy.
Gotcha. Okay. You should know the to get worn out. Yeah. No. Okay. No, thank you so much for
being here. Well, this is my 50th year of playing golf. I started when I was 12, 62. Most of that
was the four city courses. I had a few stance at Thriving Courses, but been back for quite a
while. And I've been selling golf equipment for 24 years now. And then started a laser engraving
um business. Well, dabling, learning that one. And I've been doing hair for 38 years.
So that's about it in town. It's awesome. But I know you're both active at the courses. So
you bring that that to the play mostly text and honor, but I'm ready to see what the other two
how how they bounce. So yeah. Good. Okay. Thank you both for being here. We we appreciate it.
I have a question comment more about the junior golf thing. Some of my golf buddies
are the primary people who do the on-site volunteer. Volunteering. There's a real
shortage there. Yes. And so I was wondering if next year we could just kind of brainstorm the
idea of what we could do to there's got to be more than six people who will be willing
to jump in and help with that. and uh maybe we could do a little drive on there. Yeah,
we we met with them several times back in the winter come up with ways to do that.
We we had some that signed up and then dropped out prior to the start. So kind of up there a
couple couple of courses were left in a heck of a lot scrambling trying to figure it out. So yeah,
I think that's I think this group should involve some kind of either a marketing
thing because up to now my impression is it's been more word of mouth from the two girls that
are primary on that on that deal that they just try to call people they know and I don't think
that's been really successful. Not a lot of people. Right. Right. No. Is agree. I mean,
when back when my kids were in junior golf, they kind of would request the parents to Oh, they do,
but somebody still has to do all the paperwork. Oh, all the There has to be stuff. Yeah. 120
120 kids a morning that come out to each course each course. So, so the enforce is fine. It's the
other stuff. Yeah. It's the getting ready and even encourse the way I understand it they you know the
person in charge bricks the kids in does a little rules lesson with them and so on then sends them
out to the for a little on course lesson and and then organizes their parental volunteers to make
sure everybody's covered you know that kind of administrative stuff is where really hurt yeah
and when they have playdates they have playdates at the end of the year where they need more
volunteers to come out and be on course with the kids and just help them with etiquette, you know,
just the basic stuff. Yeah. So that's I know we always try to help with that into your Yeah.
Maybe to do something figure out a way to help get some more.
Yeah. Just like every week, right? Not just That's right. thing. Yeah. It normally starts the 1 of
June. This week, this year it was the second week of June 7th. That's the first day. It's Tuesday
here. Monday at tax. Is that right? Yeah. Monday at tax. Monday at tax. And then Mac has sent up
Monday. Tuesday. Yeah. [clears throat] How you staff? What's that? How are you staff and season?
The Oh, that's different. So, that's the junior tour. We're good on that. Yeah. So yeah, the the
junior tour is a competitive tour that I run. It's it's also a six regular weeks and then the finals.
Um which would be again that's only now that we're down to the finals it gets a lot easier because we
only have 20 players instead of 70 on a Sunday. So um for those aren't no totally no but the one the
tour that I run it's very competitive. It's it's to get them ready to play high school, potentially
college golf. So, it's le of the of the junior golfers. Yeah, we had like we didn't play this
year. Last year we had Graham Smith shoot 64 every time we teed up, you know, win junior world. So,
yeah, pretty pretty solid. I mean, there's some good players on there this year as well. So, yeah.
Um, one thing I wanted to bring up was last week or last month he had said something about the new
system was going to maybe get that standby feature in it and I think you said couple weeks something.
We weren't sure exactly when but it was there's an update that came out today. I got here this
morning I saw the update and I was hoping I jumped in it to see what it was. It was not part of that.
would still should be any any time. I don't know. There's a third party that we could use. We sign
a contract and if that's about to come out, I don't want to spend that money and knowing that
it's Robert. So, we're kind of in limbo. It's uh I don't think it's taking longer than what they
said. But we're to get that started. So, are they going to make it to you finance or they going to
leave it as is? No. So of all the the companies that we demoed, no one booked process. Yeah. No,
that's and that's not Are you seeing less period or is everybody pretty much aware that you can
come with five weeks? Yeah. We'll show five. Not not really. Um but yeah, as far as a a computer
program that does that either not do that now and we had did but that one we don't know. So people
uh people here don't realize how rare that is on the golf portal. I heard it. Yeah. I don't
know how far away but it's not very far. They know they tried to do away with it a while back. This
is like four or five years ago, but that did not go well. There was a lot of complaints. I would
suggest before noon on the weekends, but like you said, city hall full of people that you just get
the golf course moving in a nice way instead of one, but not that all fans are slow, but the slow
group is usually a F, right? No, there's that play faster than anybody out here. It's not there's a
lot more to it. It'll be that extra wearing to tear from a cart, the extra round that the cart
gets used. I mean, there's a lot more to it than that. But yeah, I don't got rid of it for a while,
but somebody said they might been out there, but they got rid of five. My understanding is
they got rid of my brother plays out there. Good. That's good to know. Yeah, there you go. Little
ammo. How's PC man as far as it been back? Yeah. Yeah. [snorts] Or every day if it's not worn out,
right? The last the end of last week and today is the first time we've had any type of a low
just cuz it's 107 degrees right now. Yeah. And that's expected. I was talking to the
the guy that runs Denver courses. He said the same thing and he said this little heat we're
getting where for the first time we're seeing just a little bit in the afternoon and there's a open
tea time here and there. I'm like how what's the temperature? He said it's like 93 today.
Yeah, they are struggling fast. I can [clears throat] I can tell you got up Sunday at 4:45.
Get online, get ready. Got to get an early tea time. Nope. Can't get that one. Next one.
Nope. Can't get that one. First one I get was 10 o'clock and actually book it at 5:01. One minute
is all you got. It's like buying concert tickets. One minute. That's all you got. Like is in town.
really fast. That's for weekends or that just any Yeah. A Sunday morning for the next Sunday. Well,
the uh the only complaints I've I've gotten in the last two months have been from some of the groups
that are used to having tea times all all year. Aside from that, of course, the response is Yeah,
that's that's what everybody else dealt with this whole time. So, it's it's been half. Yeah. the
complaints have definitely went down, right? And it's not to bring that whole deal back up, but the
point that I was trying to get to was when someone does have a complaint, I can explain to them,
look, that's that was all on my no one I can show them. No one was pre- booked. No one was booked
early. It's it was what it is. So, yeah, fair access to everyone. Any ideas on the supply issue?
Yeah, not working on it. Working [clears throat] on it. Not there yet, but
something out that's could never happen. I need to do a lot of work on that back end. But you guys
Okay. So, we don't have any information for yourself. we just move right along
on to the financial update. Yeah. So, I haven't gotten the
um monthly financial report from finance yet, but I can go through our numbers. [clears throat]
But let me see. So, this goes through Oops.
Okay. This goes through through June. So it's not including anything from this month. Uh looking at
rounds, we are up primarily except for McDonald which McDonald had all the work being done early
in the year. So they had all the construction and we were closed for part of that a day
here and there. So that that's a big reason for that. AC on the other courses were we're up for
the year. Um altogether we're up um about 2,000 rounds over last year and uh like nearly almost
6,000 from 24. Now, [snorts] if you look at June alone, we're down because we had all that rain at
the end of June um with big rain that closed the course for three days and closed every course. So,
we were trucking right along and then that big rain came and and just put us at a standstill
almost a little. So, um if we would have had a good finish to the end of the month, we would
have been way up on the year. But, um still all in all need water. I'd like to have not had it all
at one time, but u still looking looking pretty solid this month. looking really good as well. Um,
why would be down so much? I mean, that's drains really fast, right? That sandy soil. Yeah.
I'm going to verify that. That's a good point. I'm going verify that once we
feel [clears throat] once I get done with this. Oh, let me that does seem really low. Okay,
let me let me look at that and make sure that maybe with the new system some kind of
reporting thing that I did not do correctly. Let me go back to that. Um, cart rentals are
are way up. We're about $70,000 up over last year. So, really good spot, which of course
um partial part of that money goes back into our cart fund to make sure we we have the fund. So,
the cart fund we'll get to in a second is looking really good. [snorts] Um, food and beverage,
we're uh pretty much dead even over last year. Uh, up again from 24 and way up from 22 or 23. Again,
there's things we want to do that we just we have to have staffing. So, [clears throat]
I still think there's room for improvement there, but we we have to be able to be consistent and
um efficient with with that area. Without people, it's hard to do. So,
um, Jesse, are we still in the budget? Do we still have a food and beverage staff person, you know,
to replace the one we don't have any longer? That's primarily. He's he's food and beverage and
marketing. That's his title. So, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to know if somebody was monost. He's
looking at what they're doing, looking at margins, looking at food costs constantly,
um running reports to show what what is going, what's not working. I was thinking more about the
events that we've talked about before and I know that takes additional staffing beyond way beyond
just you. Yeah. Every time there's an event that requires food, he's pretty much weekend,
afternoon, night, whatever. He's there because we just we don't have that extra person to do. So,
any ideas what we're going to try to do where we beat that hood from burners? Yeah, we I mean we
this past week we put I'll pull the grill out and did some burgers outside at Mac and it it works,
but you also now you the person that's inside is the only person that can go outside to cook. So
you can't you know what I mean? It's only one person that's really problematic. Is
there only one person running the for the most part? Yes. That's that's it. Yeah. And it's uh
the thing if we're if you're not consistent in this world, you're not it's not going to
work cuz people need to know that they can show up and and the food's going to be there,
the burgers are going to be there. And if that person's stuck inside and can't get
out and they show up, well, the next time they're stopping somewhere on plane. So,
and they have to have a food handler's license. So,
like the assistant pro couldn't go out and cook them or Yeah. I know the establishment has can,
but it's you got to think too. Yeah. Yeah. And that happens a lot. I mean, a lot of the
guys will jump out and help or whatever, but you know, if you've got 120 kids coming in 8 minutes,
I got to um [clears throat] so driving ranges are extremely strong. Uh we could have five more
driving ranges and they'd be packed every day. Um 162,000 of them 27 at this point last year,
uh which is crazy. We did have we have a really slow start to last year with the driving ranges,
but still it's a schmaculate. Um merchandise sales are are up a little bit this year, but last year a
lot of that is text and and all our texts with the simulator. He's done a few more fittings this year
um through the manufacturer. So they'll come out and do club fittings and he sold several sets
that way. So uh it's been pretty good. 225,000. Again, we just so so you guys know, we get 5% of
this. This is all owned by the pro. Um it's their they have an LLC. It all goes through them. So,
we're not liable for renting the merchandise, but we do get 5% um as kind of their rent. Um but for
me, it's more more importantly, it just shows the engagement that we're offering the customers what
they need when they come in. So, year-to- date total revenue for the month of June, 766,000
for the year. We're up 320,000 over last year. [clears throat] So, um, from a revenue standpoint,
our expenses are up a little bit just because of many things. Staff costs did go up. The, you know,
just we've done a little bit more this year. Um, so, but all in all though, keep trying to keep
that ratio of what we spend versus what we make um, steady. We're doing a pretty good job there.
So, um, and then finally, the project funds. So maybe um you you may or may not know kind of how
that works um the solar system, but we've got um basically a project fund at the end of the
year on our in our general fund. Anything over $1 million that's left in the account gets put into
this project fund into the this general project fund right here. Um so at the end of the year,
everything over $1 million gets put in here and then from this fund, we have four sub funds that
we can put the money into. So, if we have anything we're want to do in the clubouses um or on the
grounds on the golf course or if we need to buy equipment uh we can move money from here into
one of these three buckets to be able to spend it. Um the cart fund is kind of self-maintaining. So,
we have every uh $3 from every cart rental goes to that fund. And we started with the sale of
our old broken down fleet of carts that we had to kind of start with this. So, um where's the
rest of the money from every rental? You said $3. It goes to our just our general operating
fun goes to the to that that individual club. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So, it was our cards
were $12. We raised that that to $15 to put $3 in here. And the goal is to have a self-sustaining
funds and we always have new cards. So, when the lease ends, we we can roll to that new lease and
be in a good spot to do stuff. Just go back to the previous slide. Something's [clears throat] wrong
with the sale. That just doesn't look right. Oh, the revenue is way up, huh? Oh, no. I'm looking
at the wrong line. Way down. Way down. Yeah, I was looking at city hall. They're the ones making the
money. There's something wrong there. Sim. We need to You'd be probably better audited than Well,
Sim doesn't have a driving range. They don't have some of the other. That's true. And that
driving range is a big deal. It's I mean, walkers long walker sim's always going to
be lower. Yeah. Are you saying lower compared to previous year or lower compared to each other?
Yeah, I mean from before that's not a surprise to me really. Year to day. No, it just without
the driving or without a lot of walkers without there's just different things that they don't they
don't actually up year. Yeah, it is 30,000. He's looking at that 122. Yeah. And that space there
just we don't have a lot of events because there absolutely no space there to have events. So,
um, yeah, it's always going to be the lower. Um, they do they do a lot of rounds normally. I've
got to look and look at that here in a second. See why the last one was so slow down. But, um, yeah.
I got a question on the re on the merchandise. 5% goes to the city or the golf. Um, is is that
just gross their total number? That's not profit. That's 5% of the Yes. Right. Okay. I was talking
to JV about maybe something to think about is creating a window December, January or November
through January where that gets waved so they can unload their inventory and not they can actually
go down to wholesale and and be able to not lose that function. Well, so they could actually go to
cost blow it out so they're not losing money on stuff, but I don't know. The margins aren't great
in post golf. I mean, they're not golf ball, not the stuff that you sell. Golf balls are you just
that's just there because the cheap golf balls are I mean the the clothing you you can make
some money. I'll probably wait a little bit. But anyway, if we could think about creating a window,
even if it's just a month, where they can drop have close all that out and they can when they're
ordering their new stuff, they're not lose it on their old stuff. But if it's not a big deal,
then it's not a big deal. Well, we don't pay much during those months anyway on our 5%. But um yeah,
our their contracts renew it at on January 1st every year, so we can look at something. Yeah.
I mean, it's 5% margin. Yeah. Do a lot. Well, that's what I was going to say. I don't know
how much they do mark up, but I can't imagine that whole state plus 5% is gonna still affect a pretty
significant discount and we still get our little piece of that still. So, seems like it gave a lot
of low and still pay their 5%. Typical markup if you sold it without any kind of sale would try
to get around 30%. Getting 5%. almost nothing in parallel life sells it. You almost have to have
it marked down at some. Yeah, there's different techniques on how you do that, but um yeah, I
mean typically margins you're going to be running 22% and when you take the 5% out there's that's
Yeah. No, I mean just trying to give a a 30-day window to [clears throat] where they can really
just cut down the cost and see what they can help when people they got new merchandise. Exactly.
you're going to be less hesitant to order all new insurance if you're just sitting on a bunch.
Um, yeah, like I said, as soon as I receive the uh the financial report from finance,
I'll send that out email to everyone to review. So, um, any questions about anything?
Hey, I didn't really go through this, but everything looks pretty strong. There's a couple
of incumbrances here. Um, and then we got the the big fund at the bottom still pretty healthy. Um,
talk about that at all from the card fund. Uh, are you going to replace carts next year or the
year after? When does I set a reminder that for us to talk about that at the September meeting? So,
get through this and then maybe um maybe we do a do a walk through on it. I don't know. I can
get deep guys opinion. They're not they're not bad. They're still still in pretty good shape
on the seats. We do have they sent brand new seats. There's a little recall cuz the tucked
in at the bottom under the seat was coming out. So, they we have a new brand new seat
for every cart that we own that we put on at any time. Ours have not really had that issue,
but apparently some of the other also we have brand new seats whenever we want them. Um,
and we really haven't had they've done a great job keeping them up and repairing anything in
the front. Um, there's some cosmetic damage, you know, different things obviously after four years,
but all in all, they're not terrible. So, that would be a decision I think we need
to decide with the financial, how does that look financially? Is it worth it
to do get new carts or do we need to go in more? So, I'll put all that together
um if you're good with that, but that's something I need. Right. I might even try to get
ready. You may know. Will that have to go back out for bid or since they're already a current?
We start a new lease. Can we do that or we have to bid that back out? It depends on what we have
written if they have renewal options on it. Okay. Okay. So I think with Georgia we did what we had
the option to do. I think we did. So I'll gather all that and we'll back we'll have a discussion.
Yeah. I guess somebody said something about the tires the other day and I looked at one card and
it did look like tires were wearing but not a big deal. I mean well that's the if we need I
can tell him I've got 20 tires to be replaced. We'll have 20 tires here in two days. So that's
they do. You want to push it till I mean if you got especially if you got new seeds I mean if
we go a year early we have to buy the rest of that leaf so it just makes our next leation
[snorts]
that it for the uh financial update go okay continuation of prior business the irrigation
updates. Well, um bring up speed. We we obviously we replaced seven back. Now we're in the process
of uh getting text and Auburn done. Um we just went through the bid process. We hired
a consultant. Um he did his initial designs. He got those to us two weeks ago, maybe a
week ago. Probably um and now working with the superintendent with Darren Seth to kind of tweak
the design that he laid out, make sure we have everything where we want it. We're getting really
close. I'm kind of going back and forth. Right now, I expect by the end of this week probably
will be in a good spot. Um, and then we'll use his design and he that person will also serve kind
of as the project manager. So, we'll bid that out to the contractors to come and do the work. He'll
make sure through the process they're doing it up to his specs and hope that it goes pretty smooth.
Um, I will say his early estimations were probably going to go a little bit over budget on both both
jobs. Um, which you knew was a possibility. some complete guess and the price of the pipe because
of the price of oil has went up um quite a bit. So, um it looks like we're potentially over about
200,000 per job. Um now, we did at MAC we were under 300,000. So, we have a little cushion there
and then we may need to supplement. Um, the good thing that I think is on our side is if when we
bid these out, I know there are a few contractors that have some openings in the fall and have the
bandwidth to have two separate crews on site. They can mobilize once. I I told him we and he agrees
we want two different project managers. I don't want one person trying to do both. Uh, but he
thinks they're going to be very aggressive just because it's a they're fairly easy jobs. um and
they can mobilize basically in one place and and get it. So I think that will help. That'll be on
our side a little bit um when the bids come back, but potentially uh we need to be prepared for a
little bit over. So we were originally thinking like two for tax and 2.5 here. Yeah. And tax he
is estimate was 2.2 to 2.3 and here was 2.6. So initial now we're still working on the design.
Right. So basically the way they come up with that is they take how many heads you have. That's
estimated is between 23 and $2,500 per head and then if there's any out of the normal areas like
where we have to bore across the streets here. They kind of factor that into what they think it's
going to come back at. And then of course we hope that someone bids us their their bid. Now they
he's very upfront that I'm going to give you kind of an high expectation cuz I don't want to tell
you it's going to be 2.1 it comes back at 2.5 and then you hate me. So I'm telling you kind of high
side and hopefully we get it better. So we may come in right on budget but just cushion to work
with a little a little it's not enough to cover if it comes back where he's 300k is can be used.
That's right. It's still basically in one. That's right. That's right. Yep. [clears throat] Now,
we did have to spend 120,000 to get the um basically the controls and everything working
out here. Uh which we were going to have to do anyway with the new irrigation. So, um really that
300,000 you might as well say it's 200,000. Yeah, cuz we that's compatible with this. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So, uh hopefully by the end of the week or early next week, we have the designs, everybody's
happy, sign off, and then we can start packaging up and RFB to uh to send out probably that two,
three weeks and then see how we come back and get somebody on contract and be ready to start.
We're hoping for aggressively November, early December latest. That would put us at a probably
early April finish time, possibly late March, depending on when doing both courses through
the winter time. Yeah. Two totally separate groups. Could be the same company with two
totally separate groups. That's right. That'd be good. That group doing allation systems and just
a little over two years. Yeah. Yeah. having that done and behind it would be Max. Yeah, Max. So,
so at at MAG and I haven't been there yet, but I talked to a couple guys that were out there and
they said that it's looking really good except for the area where they trenched and then they put the
sod back over that that still hasn't taken and just started to turn. There's been improvements
there. Some of the areas have they up well and some have not at all. So, yeah, I like I said,
I haven't been out to see them. I just Yeah. Yeah. So, there's nothing like crazy terrible,
but there's definitely uh played out there last week and the ball landed right in the
scene. Couldn't find it and it was that far under the ground where it was in probably the
worst spot on the golf course. Um but yeah, there there definitely some spots and we will
uh they will come up probably back in the fall and redo what they need to for that. So, okay,
it's kind of a let give give it time, let it do what it's supposed to do, and if it there's
problems, we'll come back and take there were a lot of compliments on the bunkers on red bunkers
and stuff, but a lot of guys said they like that. It's great. You know, we had that five six inch
rain and the next morning they were dry as it would be. Last year, we got one inch of rain, they
were up to the top of water for three days. So, it was they're definitely doing their job. Good.
I'll do it on the water bill. Yeah, this turn on uh city water four days Thursday or Friday. Um so
yeah, we're we're using city water right now. Unfortunately, when it's this hot,
we're using a lot of city water, so it's going to be it's going to be expensive.
Um, we are looking at trying to come up with a way to put that retention bigger retention
pond between 10 and 18 U where that group of trees are. That would allow us, we were just
talking before the meeting when even during that big rain when we had we lost a ton of water fill
up and then we're just watching all that water that we need run off down the road. So, uh, if
we can get that pond in place, we can collect that water and that would give us another 3 4 weeks of
of water when we need it when it's it's dry. So, we definitely could use some some rain right now.
Any other questions, comments, or concerns on irrigation? [clears throat]
Well, I'd like to talk about some blue muted conversion.
Sam, I'll go over it, but you'll be able to answer questions much better. So,
um I know we talked about this and I don't think I can think you were here and
um I bring you up speed. We're looking at at SIM doing a blue muda conversion. So,
the fairways right now um we're going to add basically oversee with a blueg grass
where they they don't compete with each other. You have a much better turf year round. Um,
so that's that's kind of the goal. We've looked at several courses, some in the area. Um,
went down and looked the fairways are awesome down there and then there's several Joplin,
Springfield, Lake, the Ozarks we've talked to and everyone's had great success with. Yeah. Yeah. So,
um, kind of gave you this print out with a timeline of what this looks like. Um,
a lot of prep work that won't really affect play. might notice a little bit um some of the areas may
turn yellow just a little bit later this month um just because he's going to scalp them down,
but um it really won't affect play. Um but we're going to start blasting this out and let everyone
know what's going on um here probably next week. Um, but a lot of the prep work that he can speak
on that if if anybody has questions, but the we're going to go through Labor Day and then
uh September 8th through 11th basically will be when we we do do the seat. We're also going to
take that time to um do punch the greens since we're already going to be down. That way we're
not having to close back up for something else. Um we'll be walking only for 10 days because
the fairways will be extremely wet and then we'll switch to cart path only for we'll play about here
two three weeks maybe maybe four weeks um just to make because they are going to have to stay pretty
wet with that seed and then um when Jerry meets comfortable with it we'll open back up but um to
90° but um I think overall this is going to make a huge difference going to be a m big improvement at
the golf course And uh just like you know what we did at text a few years ago when we had the winter
kill. I think if we do this right and let everyone know and communicate very well, people are going
to be happy that we're doing something to improve the be a minor uh minor short inconvenience for
a long-term much better. Yeah. If it's a home run there then back. Yeah. Yeah. And you didn't
do the two holes that you talked about a few months ago. No, we we after we started looking
and talking to everybody and looked at the cost, it's it's just right at 40,000 start to finish to
do the whole golf course. No, let's do it. And worst case scenario, some this won't happen,
but if somehow it didn't take, we're right where we start. Yeah, we're out a little money, but
it's going to Yeah, it's it's so um you can jump in and add it and send your people if you want.
If you want to come you want to sit right there just so the microphone can pick you up over here.
I have a couple [clears throat] questions. Okay. Um, so here you're, if I'm reading this right,
you're saying the first date that things might be shaky in terms of normal playing will be later. We
can't start the stuff that starts at 8 September. The no stop that interferes with play. That makes
play wonky. The Labor Day leaves on the 7th. So, we're going to do the 8th. So, the 8th start,
right? That's the weekend. That's where you're going to start that there be some issues with
normal play. Right. My concern is we have two home team plays later that month. I think only two. I
just texted to make sure. Um besides regular late days, late days on Tuesdays, we post team play,
but I think it's just the last two. So I think we'll have I think what we looked up,
we saw them and they were 24th, 18th, and 25th. Okay. Not even close. Okay. We looked up a little
bit. the 25th are both at home, but the other two September Fridays we track. It will probably be
car path only by that point. Yeah, they won't. So, we'll just have to see if we can figure out to go
maybe switch our home for day four when these team events cancel. They cancel they postponed. Yeah,
there's there's too many seniors that do that. So, the 18th is within that walk only window.
So that one will need to be I'm pretty sure I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure Ken me see
I think we mentioned something to him about ladies days. I'm not sure. Was he thinking of team played
basketball? Okay. Would the groups be up? I mean, is that kind of the point is to play it at your
your court? We do home and away alternate by year and yeah, I mean, I don't think our girls are
going to the same girls won't yell and scream about going someplace else. The problem is if
they haven't already if let's say well the 18th of the Will event hasn't already set aside that
day. There may be some other a tournament or something that they we one of our so it would
be like a mutual site. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, let me let me check on that. Okay. Now that I know
for sure which ones will be affected. Yeah. Okay. We'll we'll work through something.
I call scalding knock out grass to be seated. Yes. So basically
what we're doing is right now there's still goose grass dry grass left over
the weed. So later this week I'm thinking
this time next week we're going to start hearing yellow be a number of weeks and as we're doing
this I'm also in the process of dropping high a little bit every week because we received
um everything still playing properly faster you know things that um now the
cuts can be a little tighter so with all setting
different um but just make sure we get a seed as best chance. So when you're receding,
are you reseing the Bermuda and the blue? Yeah. So yeah. So basically what it does is these work
together and so you either see I'm using a four-way gland going two different direction.
So the thing is is like your fall time, winter time, early spring, your blue rass
your most dominant grass. So you're going to bring grass to your run element. Plus it's
going to be the car truck that we have in the winter time. It's going to stand up the grass
stand be show up from the car truck we have. We still play the offse early summer hot summers.
So they work together back then and bluegrass is perennial. So he come back here.
Yeah. That's very interesting.
Little paddles back. Yeah. So actually my last property I was at in Oklahoma
number years ago. I did some team off with this. It turned out phenomenal to this day.
um a lot of course I was over in southeast Kansas only courses in my area over there
and so I was able to see firsthand start idea but I see people do this grass is going to do
with grass as well as well and my thing is like definitely one of the positives definitely neg
issues with never road bikes like that. Um so the public definite
how's the irrigation system work as far because you're going to do this evenings and you have
to keep them moist so playable areas you know irrigation system works pretty well. One thing
I've noticed though, they are very sandy a lot of areas. So the water does go through quite a bit
through this process here. I'm actually ordering a bunch of obtaining wing to spray air that's
going to help hold that water and that same water board [clears throat] maximizing for us. You're
going to spray what it's called retaining agent. So retention. So basically instead
the water going straight through a profile this chemical is going to be in profiles that's going
to help hold that water there. Okay where it's going to maximize the water like right now you
know I got water next day we're doing that but we should definitely start seeing more
every year or if it works out well it's free monthly monthly. Okay, like that. Um,
obviously you can definitely tell the we don't have irrigation in like the rush.
They're starting to turn grown out. Um, one of the boxes the heads probably should place
on a different side of the P box the max watering where we have some heads
that's on the north side of the P box. You know, we have a predominantly south of man
most of the year. So you'll see some areas that there's [clears throat] the most part
went through full. Yeah, they've got years. Yeah, they've had their back n for the front n was three
years, two years. Oh, okay. So it's and then they back on it for a year and the blueg grass
is come back every single and they I think they said after the first year they had very
very minimal seating spot here and there just to make sure I filled in. Um but um everybody
else I know has done this they've all done very very minimal that's a game changer. [laughter]
Yeah. [clears throat] And the blue guys stand the traffic. I mean because all
of our groceries are getting you know 40 50,000 pounds a year. Yeah. So one
of the horses that um definitely was the first to do this over in Jerusale
they're pack they had pumps like me right here. They might not do as many rounds
like Texas [clears throat] and it's handled beautifully. They've had it for a number of
years now. Couple of horses over spring. Same thing. Um the city forced the car
reser I just switched over this last year well and a couple hosts there right on top
and I'm sorry if you covered this and I missed it because I have to think about
these things a lot. This is not my field. Um, we don't have a lot. We don't have irrigation
in the rough and you're receiving the roof and No, I'm not receiving. Oh,
okay. We're doing fairways and detox. I was going to say, how are we going to keep the secret? Yeah,
the rough are going to be. So, what do you difference of how much how tall we can cut the
parways? So, when we when everything is all grown in, I mean, as of a couple weeks ago,
I was keeping the 600,000 of the inch just because that's where we're at. Um, moving forward,
we'll probably stay right around saying that, you know, and like, [clears throat] you know,
changing seasonally like for the the winter months, maybe go a little higher. Um,
my thing that is typically with the blue grass, most people I know do not go much higher. I do
have it in my notes to where, you know, on the where, you know, depending what we're seeing
with with the curve where we can always bump up a little higher, if we need to be, you know,
we need to go up to three quarters, we could or we go a little higher. I mean who wants to do that?
So I definitely think this be a game changer for you know said [snorts]
it would be something good. Have we talked about the associated cost of this just Yep. All
all in start to finish with every chemical every everything just spread out. Okay. I was thinking
that was you just that's that's the overseating. Yeah. I mean, I know that's what you're doing
technically, but public results, not just for three months, not just Okay. So, just so I
can get the message out to my group, we'll have a ladies day on September 8th. That's you're saying
you're going to see it. September 8th. Oh, okay. All right. Labor Day is on the seventh, right?
Do any of the courses uh irrigate the rough? Is it I mean I guess I'm asking for tanks. Tanks can
have Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's irrigation not as much the fairway as two or three rows in the
fairway and pretty much one on the outside. Yeah. tax is going to have I think it was,71 heads is
where we're at right now where Sam had six 658 or something like that. A lot bigger piece of
ground and it's wall to wall basically. So the last thing we want to do is put a new
irrigation system and then everything between the holes dies and looks terrible. So yeah,
it's going to be an interesting golf course with irrigation. Yeah, the Arizona
know [clears throat]
where my ball seems all the way dirt. What if that part? Yeah, but there's a lot of different. Yeah,
we will. I mean I think once we get this once we get through this year this going
to be a year and we know all the stuff right here this way we can start steps
to start fixing the rough you know there that is get things fixed that's going to be most
how much
that's reason why we're keeping taller is because of all the traffic that I'm doing two and a half
in as opposed to try to handle we have and stuff like that because when I got there last fall it
all beat and beat down and so if I do keep a little taller you know whereas we're going to
stand and we're not going to have a lot of yeah I just know you know around 150 out from 183 on
that east side yeah yeah take a long way to get to the rest of the yeah does this upper seating
include the T boxes as well. Todd, fairways and brushes. Did forestry make it out today?
Lorenzo came by and we thought a little bit trying to get John back over there. He thought
they probably get free to circum the one thing we're looking at today primarily number nine
T box is back in that corner and all the stuff on the outside of the golf course is grown up.
There's no air flow. There's all that just keep we can't grow grass right there. So,
we're looking at some way to thin that out a little bit. Um, we really need to over time
get that pole fence line down through there because it just blocks all the air flow to
help for two decades. Right. Right. So in the very front box. [clears throat] Yes. The very
back T box there. We get all that shaft and all the trees there all up at least 9 ft. Get
some air flow through there. By doing that will definitely be able to grow grass there. you know,
where I've got the soil works where there's nothing wrong with the soil and tea losses. It's
it's air flow and shape. So, they told us that the first time like 20 years ago, and I thought,
well, they cut down some dead trees. [laughter] I got the [clears throat] answer to this. I don't
know nothing about last year that that big green was gone once those teas were gone. The green's
hanging in pretty good. But one thing with that is is I was able to grab on the old pants from CL
last week. Instead of doing that whereby eight grain back to four grain same airflow issue I
can take it back to port on the green there. Yeah. Great idea. Got that pan that runs off
a generator and it was unclap. I didn't even know that they existed but it was on the back back of
the maintenance barn at Mac and pulled it up. Is that area back there is that botanic or is that
far? It's part it's right up against a riverbank for the most part. So it's park technically,
but it's not a usable part of the park. It's just grown up there. The park is kind of on
the other side of that. I'm just curious if we need to get somebody's blessing or something.
Just say yes and we'll move on.
Okay. Uh, any more questions about the bloom and uh that process.
Okay.
Guess we'll move on then to uh new items for consideration. We're we're at a point of the
year where it's just trying to survive. We're not trying to start a lot of new projects other than
this. So, uh, we have a lot of things lined up for the fall we'll be talking about for the next
couple meetings, but right now I don't have a lot. I'm just trying to keep our heads above water. So,
I I rechecked that area after we talked the other day out on seven by where you said that car path.
If you go five steps past the walking bridge, right, right there, right, where is where it's
eroding away and you don't have the maybe six, eight inches of soil there, right? And then I
saw where uh I think Darren put some some rock kind of down in there to to try to keep it from
from washing the soil and stuff away. Yeah. And it is a very temporary very It'll help. It's not
going to do a lot and it's very expensive. That little spot right there was about $1,500. Yeah.
because he and then somebody uh I can't remember who told me this and I don't even know if it's
true or not but somebody told me that they were going to put you know how they did that rock at
uh Texas solver along nine there big rock like that like they were going to do rock like that
on part of that the reason we were able to do that in Texas that rock exist in Pony Prairie Park and
we just they said we were we could use it so we didn't pay for anything other than the work and we
did it all in house and they did a phenomenal job as to So you're thinking the pond on that? Yeah,
just that creek on seven. [clears throat] Somebody said something about doing a a wall
retaining wall right there. Yeah, which got me thinking about that eroded area. If you could
do something with rock and and I don't know, we we had the engineers come in and we're still waiting
on them to get back kind of what [clears throat] their suggestions and kind of what it would look
like for the path and for that that wall. Um but yeah, there's every pond out here as we know has
got a lot of um erosion and that one on seven. We were looking at possibly doing a wall there,
whether it's wood, concrete, rocks, whatever. And that's what we're kind of waiting on them to get
back to. Would that be in the flood plane? There's so much permitting and everything's
got to be signed off and you don't know a lot more about this than I can, but um we haven't
gotten that back from me. It's been four or five weeks now. Hopefully have that any day.
Um yeah, we we're going to have to address that. And it's not just there. It's number two, number
four, number uh pretty much every pond out here. Number one. Um number one's probably that I can
tell 6 8 ft in from where it started because the 150 ponds out in the water. So that obviously used
to be fairway. Um so yeah, there there's a lot of expense that we're going to have to figure out
with ponds out here. Uh luckily the other I mean we have rosen out the other pushes but they're not
in a place where it's that it doesn't matter as much here it's this far from the green on forward
on the cart path on on the side. Yeah. So do you have to get approval through the engineers for
any of the pond work or is it just that specific one that runs down there by step if it falls in
the designated flood plane they're yeah they have to be involved. I would definitely get
them involved. Last thing I want to do is create a problem on accident, you know, the area. So, yeah,
they'll have to be involved. Now, what they may come out say, you know, technically you won't need
a permit for this, but you will for this type is the we're talking about the bridge also the bridge
is out on on seven. Yeah. Yeah. The walking bridge is double turns. Is it remember that is that
common knowledge that the bridge is going away because it's gotten I'm just I I I have I've had
my ear bent by a few loud voices um who are pretty distressed by that. Yeah. And people think we can
just fix the railing and be done. It's the bridge is about to fall in but underneath that's eroded
so far back. There's a piece of concrete that's should have dirt underneath it and it's sticking
up as far. That's what's holding it's just going away. It's gone. Yeah. And that was not an option.
That's we were told. Okay, you're done. Yeah, shut that down. So, uh, we were looking at possibly
[clears throat] adding a walking bridge on the down a little ways on to the if you're playing
the home more to the left of where it currently is where it's a little bit more narrow. Um,
but again, [snorts] that's expensive. It's in a flood plan. A lot more than
just you can't just build a little wave in the water. Yeah, [laughter] exactly.
That's what it is several times. Getting the word. Yeah. Said he was getting a bunch of complaints
about the bridges bridge. I mean I people come to me all the time. I'll come out there tonight
bring it with a hammer and a couple nails. Big set of Yeah. People think it's the railway and
I tried telling it's not the railway. I said, "Look underneath there. You can actually see the
concrete pylon and the dirt on this side of it has all washed away. It's all I mean, if you if
you stop and take a look at it, you can see pretty easily." I don't think anybody that I'm talking
to is saying you could fix it, but you won't. They're just saying there has to be a fix of some
kind because the cartels laid out so poorly that for a walker or even if I'm if I'm in your cart,
but I hit to the right of the green. Yeah. Right. I don't want to have to go in my car a stupid way
and then walk back trucks. I mean, sure. Yeah. I'm not hearing anybody say you guys should be able to
fix it. They're saying you should find a solution. I wish they would have picked a car path where
it's at now. If over the kept it on that side and went around the back of the It's just a badly laid
out. So, I don't know anything about bridges, but I would think that if you started back far enough
and went far enough and did like a steel, like I said, I've been a bridge expert for a few years,
but if you did, you know, I don't know what the cost is, but it will affect a lot of the walkers
and I'll live. Yeah. Or learn to jump. When I make a video tomorrow just kind of zoom in off
the underside of it just to let people know it's not just that we're ignoring that maybe. That's
the best way to do it. Just gone and then I'm not going to comment. So just post it. [laughter]
Well, lucky we're the minority, not the majority. So, no car.
I mean, not for when I first got here, one of the first things people wanted to bridge between uh
five and six. I did 100. I mean, yeah, it would be be great. You used to be able to jump back
a bags to be done and used to a little walking bridge that cost $60,000. No, I get it's a huge
cost. [snorts] Yeah, got bigger problems. How wide is that crete? As you get closer towards
the white and blue TE's down there, is it any more narrow as it goes down that way? I haven't
I haven't ever went back and looked in there. I'm just curious. Oh, right. If if it's you
say you know where the walking bridge is now if back towards the white and blue tea boxes
a little further 20 or 30 yards back this way the creek stay that yeah it gets real thick with
trees and brush and so I don't know the tea box I really don't know how wide it is because it's
big yeah I don't get the right it's pretty deep other options yeah something still pondering the
change of the cart that you were talking about yeah feedback back is not that was another
thing we're waiting on the engineers like just going to get their what they suggested there but
um the feedback's not been real great on that so I don't think everybody understands because
I didn't understand when you first told us I don't either I'd like to go and see what you're talking
about and after I talked to you that day and then I stopped there and I looked and then I could see
yeah here's what he's talking about right here so literally you know and then you go down you make
the left and then go over the bridge or up where you make that left the bond you're this far from
the water and it's eroding back. So that piece of carpet we either have to shore that up quickly
or rewrap that carpet because it's fall and so there's more to it than just by that wall washer
on or the wall washer. Yeah. Uh just past the just past the red TE's where if you're on at the cart
where you make the left to go along the creek and then right over the bridge right where you make
that like first turn there bridge you'll see that so you just cut across and then I saw go straight
to the bridge and you won't have to worry about being and so a walker who's going to the red te's
and just walk that way to the left side. The left side. Okay. And then from there, you would
just walk straight to where car would go on 18. Stop. Walk over just like people in the cars do
without adding another parking bridge. I don't know. There's no other way.
I mean, I would like to get the big boulders like that. It looked fantastic
there's [clears throat] something that they would use. Oh yeah, there's a lot of good
grasses. I mean, any good grass will use, but that stuff that is in the Flint Hills,
what's that stuff called? That buffalo grass. That's what they say. That's what they always
They take kids to the nature center and they Let me show you the cross section. Those huge
roots go down. That spread. Is it dangerous? Yeah. It's a It's a hot weather grass just
like a Bermuda. It's a hot weather grass. I just wonder if that could take the moisture that it
would get in a area like that down to a tree and maybe it can. Okay. I don't know. You would want
Yeah. Last thing I want to do is try to fix that and something. Well, there's no shade.
That's why you have to stay away from Bermuda because it goes underneath sidewalks and
driveways. But yeah, you don't want any. You got enough of that problem. You don't have
much here. But well, I'm just thinking if we have so many places where erosion is a problem,
there might be an easier fix if we I don't get to do our due diligence and study that a little
bit. Yeah. So we have a one of the neighbors on number two. So if you're teeing off on number two,
that pond to the left, that's not really in play on the far side. There's a strip
of land there that didn't realize that's part of the golf course. So we get now. Uh but that
pond the erosion, they the trees were growing up and it was blocking their view of the golf
course. So they asked if we could cut them down. We were told absolutely. We cut the
top of them down. Forester came out and was nice enough to to knock [clears throat] them in half,
but they were engineered. So you cut those trees down and that pond that wall is gone. If you take
those trees up here. Yeah. Rail system is how potent they are. Exactly. Exactly. So
and they were super We met with them over there and we we went over and you know
they fully understand it. But those trees you cut them in half they grow three times
faster after that. They probably already 8 in taller than they were two weeks ago when
we did it. So probably a river approach or something. Yeah. [clears throat] What's just
an offthe-wall question? What's the cost of a water station? Just what do you currently
have out here? Just what a water station to a jug and the enclosure and everything with Oh,
wouldn't I mean if you order it through a golf company, they're about 1,800 for the stand,
I believe. And are these order out here? I say Aubra could use three aside.
These ones, I believe, and they paint them every year. I was trying to think what's out
here. They they pay them every year. Um I mean we can't spend 10 grand at every golf course,
but we can build them for we get someone that just learning skills with that. Yeah. I just wonder why
Aubbert has two and has three aside and bad on that one. How many Sam have a side? Three. Sonic.
Right now we have 74. same and tax is kind of funny because you pass every when you're walking
it's hot. So we took that one down. We put a new one down. Okay. So it's over the houses.
Then when you get to 17 here and it's busy it's it's empty and you're kind of struggling for
those of us who don't have to walk this course. What do you mean? When you get to 16 17t, a lot
of times in the summer that thing's done by the time we get to it. But depending on time of day,
if you had three, you wouldn't have that concern. It's not a big deal. It's just I've said it. Well,
it's big deal today. It was It was fine today. Yeah. Yeah. The big complaint I had in the last
couple weeks is that they're not being filled soon enough. Oh, I'll say it back in Sam and
this is unfortunate, but we fill them and then we have unhoused folks that come and fill up three
gallons of Happens every day. Yeah, cuz we get a call, we're like, we just filled that 30 minutes
ago. It's impossible. People are doing Yeah. Not so much here. Here. Yellow. That's his fault.
And the problem is you don't know if it's empty till it's empty and you're ready to teal,
right? You're not going to get water yet. Just an idea. Yeah. And it's not a bad idea. I mean,
they got to the side, but they stuck another one and have three aside, so it would only it wouldn't
be. Yeah. I really enjoy Texas. Texas has ice cold water and they're always got always full
always got water in. Another thing I want to look at here is our encourse bathrooms. They're they're
terrible. The structures are terrible. The w they have water fountains they had that are shut down,
but we could add those back and get those function. Yeah, they they need a lot of work, but
that would be five and it 14. Yeah. So, that could be another option there. Yeah. Without running
out. Just as good if you have the water rest down. If we added the fountain with the you know film
what needs to be done to the built the restrooms themselves. They're brick buildings are cracked
one on five so that crack that line. So what has to be done? Is it tear down and start over? Is it
I need to get someone to come out and look at it. Um, which work this week. I I really I can
look at it and tell you that it looks terrible. I don't know if that's a something you can fix or
something that is too foundation settled to where the building. Yeah. The what do you call that? The
center block. Yeah. It's I mean it's got cracks this big on the outside of the building. So just
puts that phone in the ground and it works. I say that sounds like somebody knew what they're doing.
And there might be a way there. I don't actually we have a guy in the W club that he does him and
his dad do that for a living and I he went over to Dave B's house and his garage floor had it
sunk like 2 in and they came in and they jacked it up and same thing I sprayed it with some foam
stuff or something underneath there and that was super take a look and see what was all we needed.
That's right. Watch that. Can't look any worse than Texas videos,
but yeah, if he can talk about if he can look at that'd be great. Yeah, his name's Ben Camden,
but I would ask him to come out, take a look, and just see if he can tell what [clears throat] the
way the foundation is, where the crack is, and if it's something he thinks he could do because Yeah,
what they do would be great. Just to get a initial painting started. Men's club. Men's club
here. Yeah. Jeff V. Is Jeff Van still playing there or does he play on the weekend? Well,
he played Well, he's he's a nice I just know him from Yeah. Okay. I didn't know like did
I knock a scab off? I didn't know you two had a beef. I was trying to be funny. Oh,
okay. That's why. No, but Well, he he does he he does work great. But he probably could actually
work out here and those steps over there. I can do all that. He's pretty good at what he does.
Okay. How's the uh mowers? Yeah, the little Oh, back there. Yeah. So, we expanded the areas. We
bought a second one. We've expanded and I been out there a lot. You can see I mean there there's no
person alive that can cut cleaner than what those things I mean there's perfect. So we've expanded
multiple areas and he's kind of gotten more familiar with how to set them up and how to use
them. They're doing great. So So this guy will set them out there each day and pick them up again.
Yeah. Yeah. So each mower now he has I don't know how three or four zones. So he has to take them
from zone one to zone two to zone three. So you have to manually transport. He's got a little
trailer he hooks behind his deal that it fits on perfect. Um, and yeah, he's they're working
awesome. They look Is it same ones as reflections? Uh, same concept, different brand. They about 28
of them. I think they got as far as this is the next next tire staff. Yeah. All you go out there,
they're everywhere. They're everywhere. But it's immaculate. Yeah. So, these don't require an
antenna or point of abuse out on them. That's the one problem we've had. There's a spot up by the
putting green and it gets under that tree and it loses a signal and then it just starts spinning it
like it doesn't know what to Oh, that's hilarious. So, it gets Yeah. So, it uses RTK then it's using
satellite. Yeah. Yeah. It sends out a message basically says Yeah. And that's only right. You
still have your fairway mowers and green. We don't have the fairway. We That's what Reflection is
doing too though. just commons and right we looked at uh we went to Waw Country Club. They've got two
of the big Toro fairway mowers that are automated or you can flip them and get on them and use them.
They had mixed reviews on a lot of trying to get it ironed out the way you want it. So yeah,
but those are typically full-time employees anyway, correct? They're not seasonal or fair. the
people that do the fairway. [snorts] Well, someone that's has the experience. Yeah. Exactly. Yep. So,
yeah. I mean, I'm definitely very pleased with what those mowers are doing at Mac and I know
I had, you know, I had a comment but the last few meetings, you know, 17 when you're playing at not
Island, but the R3 kind of down the hill with the water in front, man. When after that thing's done
and you're standing on that T box, it looks Yeah, it's insane how much better it looks. Str lines,
everything. So, it does cuts to a butter piece quarter inch accuracy. Those are right at 6,000.
There's a subscription I think this year or something like that. Yeah. And now there's
a setup. It's $1,500 for the kit to get it all going, but you can use that for if you
buy 50 of them only. Oh, okay. So, yeah. So, but the 795 is per M. 795 a year per mower, right?
Um, name Bonnie and then they told me to change their names
to them and Louise. They just can't get closer.
close to a clear.
What's the uh what's the run time on those? I mean, how long can they go before he has to take
it back and have it recharge with the TV? How old Jeremy on Xbox? I'm not sure on those ones.
8 hours maybe. I think it's so many. I can't remember. I think that was eight hours. I mean,
they're worthless if somebody steals them, but you still have people that don't know that,
right? So, he tries to run them when he's there. Yeah. It's funny you say that. Today,
he had it turned off, so I was kind of I was going to steal this. How hard it would be,
you know? It I mean, you don't just grab it. Reflections are pretty small. Yeah,
these are a little bit bigger than those. Yeah, you definitely could, but it Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, vandalism, they he deals with it at his shop every day. It's unbelievable. So,
no matter what we have, somehow things are going to happen. So,
yeah. Tell them about your step a couple weeks ago or no
clothing optional apparently at Sim Maintenance. Wasn't homeless after hours.
We had a nightly two weeks ago and um they were out playing and I guess we all
that's an interesting neighborhood. So every day we I had an incident today that
had called police at back. So it's non-stop. A golfer or non golfer? Non-golfer. Well,
and when you play the police always. Yeah. It's very busy. Y was the I'm just curious
now. You got me going. Was the incident over in the homeless area by the shelter
houses and stuff. The one we're talking about. Yeah. Is in my maintenance yard. Yeah. So like
my shop area for 14 grand. Yeah. Go straight back to the on my building right there. Some
there in that corner. he was up there doing something. Um, you know, so the golfers up
there and next time we have a video
if you're dying to watch it.
But that would be it seems like every week I mean there's people at the little shelter
down there from my shop for bathroom stuff. I mean down there we got people
coming in like this weekend I was working this weekend up there go back to the shop
water keys and stuff you know inside the building keep the head couple weeks
ago been in there was actually in that building you know I was like you know
obviously on to have that happen numerous times. Have they uh has ready fence gear
last week or two? We are putting a new fence that fence is destroyed
like electricity to it.
No, we need to but yeah, the fence that's there is destroyed so many. So probably dream we
were able to raise the money to do like a run like that on the whole property be fantastic.
Okay. Uh guess the next thing was new under consideration. Are we
through that? There's anybody I know you said you didn't have much right now. Uh,
anybody else? Anything more to talk about? Okay, go on to course updates then
done that. Um,
aside from what we've talked about, I don't think we've kind of covered it as we went through the
meeting. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think they're all going to take a little bit of a beating with
this 1023. Yeah. temps, but that's Yeah, they're working long hours doing a lot of hand watering
right now to keep it happens fast when they start to dry up. So, okay. Uh, marketing, consumer
service updates. Um, I don't have a ton for you guys. Um, we have a few more events for the year
as far as the admin and doing event registration. That's going to slow down. We'll have a few more
groups like group type lessons for both adults and juniors for the fall. Um we'll start we already
started taking registration for that has been looking good. Um food and bev side of things there
was a couple well a fridge that we had to get replaced um over at Mac. Um we actually had some
damage on the one that the unit we got today and instead of taking that damaged unit we're going
to have to return it. That's the only way that we can get a new product in. So we're going to wait
another three or four days try to get that fridge replaced. Besides that that's pretty much all I
got. Nothing super new. Trying to get what we do now consistent and kind of focused on that. Get
through what we have this year and then go back to game planning when we get closer to the fall
through the winter. So, we've got some some ideas if you want to talk about for videos that we talk
about for [clears throat] Oh, yes. So, um we're looking at some uh metagasses. And if you don't
know what metagasses are, they're literally just glasses that have cameras installed, microphones.
So, I was thinking that would be it would be a great thing to have like a day of life point of
view per se for all of the different um operations that we have from the people
that are on the greenskeeper side, you know, mowing grains, mowing fairways, that kind of
stuff. Even from maybe Jesse kind of what he's doing around, popping in and out of courses. So,
myself popping in and out of courses. The people at the pro shop were even, you know, staging
a couple where they ask some of those weirder questions just to, you know, have a laugh and get
to know our staff. So that's kind of the There's some good stuff happening over at the shop.
We'd be like these were a terrible idea. Oh, another one. Uh getting our head pros out. We
haven't had new head pros or like tips from the pros in a long time. Like we have some videos
up from like it was 2015 or something like that. Like they're pretty old. It'd be kind of cool to
see not only like a down the line view of the traditional camera, but actually what they're
looking at as far as how their triplets from above and what that clip face looks like at a dress and
stuff kind of stuff. So, we think it'd be a cool thing to have ours teach through the the lenses.
We may have already done this, but we have we haven't done very much on rules. I'm thinking of
the rising to shambo thing we know. Have we ever done things like that where we do, you know, rule
of the day, rule of the month, rule of whatever? We can definitely do that. When I first started,
I kind of did like an overview of the game of golf. That was kind of my first campaign idea.
But I would think that would be a great idea to just maybe have a little of the week or
whatever. That video like talk about it. Yeah. Say here's what happened and here's what they decided.
That'd be that'd be a great idea. Maybe twice a month we have or maybe once we do a rules rule
of the week and then etiquette tip of the week or something like that. I like that idea. Yeah,
we we had done some of those last year. or something. So the ref week attacks. Yeah.
Way too many people. Yeah. Playing. I've got a proposition for that, but we can discuss that.
Yeah. Well, you thought of it. No, it's just I mean the the gold the senior T's at Tex are
200 yards longer than the white T's at Auburn. They're the same distance as the blues at Sims.
And too many people just look, they don't look at yardage. They just walk to the white TE's.
That's what I play. Sure. And I'd like to make the blue teeth black, the the white T's blue,
and the gold TE's white. And I think everybody just moves up. We did it at Reflection, and
everybody went they just because you can't make that. People are hitting hybrids or three in one,
two. I mean, I played Saturday from the Tibs and he had back almost every hole. That is a monster.
Well, I mean to there are people that need to play there. I but we play with people that join
us and and and we try to I mean without saying, "Dude, you got no business being there." I say,
you know, the T's here, the senior TE's are 200 yards longer than the whites at Auburn. What do
you play at Auburn? And they just don't catch the hand. I don't know if it's ego or they just they
just look at the T. I played whites, right? And if you just and then just move the golds up to
the reds and they can be a red and that's still a good distance for tennis. It's just warm golf
basically way they do it here at Auburn, right? They have black te and and you're probably not
talking about other than scorecards, right? Any cost spray paint scorecards? Well, there's
the scorecards. Okay. All the online stuff. The course rating has to be reerated. There's it's
not I've done it 20 times. It's not the end of the world. But no, I know it's it's not little
things for three months, right? I didn't think about the whole science. You're right. Yeah.
But that's a good idea. I I would agree with you 100%. Yeah. It's just And it's only tax,
right? That that that the yardage isn't proportionate with the color. Right. Right. Yeah.
I've only played it like that a couple times where he had all the TE's all the way back and I had a
couple of stees and I walk up and it's 70 yards back to the man 6,300 from the seniors which is
the blues at Sams and the it's almost the not that much shorter than the blues at offer 7500 to like
that what is it like 77 that's way up there felt like 8700 [laughter] long and then I'd
like to see some Sunday some uh better pens on the weekend at Texas. Easy. What you mean? Just Yeah,
just bring them in a little bit. They put them on those back slopes that go away from you and they
just they're hard enough. No, I'm telling you. And for a Sunday, I mean, that's I don't care if it's
Tuesday, Monday, whatever, you know, but when you're It just adds another putt per one or two
per hole, man. You're right. I don't get it. It's a They're big greens. They're hard to put anyway.
All right. Yeah, somebody slow, right? And if you could just I mean just I mean the
golf course is long enough it doesn't you don't need to trick out the pin. So was bad. We played
we played Saturday. They had a tournament Saturday morning at Ryan the assistant.
He popped over when we were playing. He was like are the pins pretty rough. And I'm like
there's a couple that are a little sketchy. And he said we had to get out here in front of that
tournament. He's like I did eight of these in the pitch dark. So my apologies though.
Well, just like not accepted. Like 10 here should never be on the top shelf on the weekends. You
just add another putt every possibly four putts every Yeah. And then you're just going to It's
just a that adds up over there's not that many holes in it like that. Little things like that.
Perfect example. People are going to aim for the pin no matter what. They pull it left and then
they chip it down too far. Go down the slope. Now they're You can back and forth that one
all day. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And there's just on the on Sundays when you want to get that golf course
moving any of them. I don't know why the rotation can't at some point they're easy. Why can't that
be Sunday? I mean I know there's a rotation. I get it. Yeah. Or maybe there isn't. I don't
know. It's just what kind of I get middle back is typically that you want if you can do it six
front, six middle, six back. Yeah. Just rotate. Yeah, I get I get that. And they're not far off.
They're just he attacks the back of the greens run away from you. Yeah. And you just run it by the
hole and pretty much you're you're it's six eight feet past and you just you're adding another putt.
If they just bring it in where it's still on the UPS slope where you don't have that it's they're
not good. You're not a good putter is what I'm I was going to say I was I was telling myself Well,
I tell you what, you have to be a really good putter. You get out there. Um, I told myself I
wasn't going to talk this, but I lied. [laughter] I'm passionate. I like it. No, you're you're not
you're definitely not wrong. I mean, some points are in the middle or they're like you said,
they're in easier. At least the tougher holes anyway, you know, been a couple times out here,
but they've been [snorts] on 12 and on three. Yeah. Eight. Yeah. real closer to the edge of the
slope. Three. Well, yeah. One day it was on the front middle below. Hit a putt that went past the
hole, started trickling and ended up past where I started from 6 ft away. It's a little much.
Okay, I think that's all we have unless somebody has any other items that they
would like to chat about in. [clears throat] So, third Monday every month unless four o'clock. So,
that is correct. And we uh I don't know, Derek, did you send out new invites for the
rest of the year? Okay. Did you post the ones from the previous meetings yet on YouTube? All
right. [clears throat] I haven't chatted in a few days. Oh, there's going to be up. Yeah.
One other thing. Did we ever get the no fishing signs been put up out around here? Darren has
them. He's they're down at the shop right now. He's He was going to use like a Tost
and kind of like do something a little more permanent. They're going to get knocked down,
whatever. So, he's going to concrete, put get a post. He's got them down there. So, he's going
to put them in the ground where they're going to be more permanent. I just I think I just see it
so much more just because of where I live all the time. I'm just like now on the on the far banks
like on the common side or we're going all is a liability thing, right? Now where's that line? I
can go to you know what I mean? It just opens the door. So try caught a duck hook and chest before
happening. Apparently not one of those once if you live. Yeah. If they read their covenants when they
buy these homes, it specifically states in there that you cannot fish on golf course ponds, right?
You can get in the common areas that you can fish at. We can figure out what happened up at what
was the name of the place they had all the fish kill. It it was just it when you get a big rain
like that. I'm just Yeah, we can figure that out and take care of this. Kill all the fish. I just
want to see what comes out of 16 in text. Man, that thing's been that color for 50 years. Yeah,
it's going to happen. There's going to be somebody coming out with extra eyes coming one day. There's
creatures in that thing, man. That happened here last year, the news and everybody, but
we had someone from uh fishing wildlife, whatever they came out. It's just they get a big rain and
it basically stirs that trash on the box and they suddenly out here. We had it close to our house.
Yeah. We have our backyard and everyone just screaming just oxygen and just most disgusting.
Oh my disgusting trouble. Get him a plan for your Yeah. Yeah, guys trying
to get them. It's gross. It's bad. Yeah, that first number 10 D was unbearable for two days.
No, just just want to welcome new members. No, just want to have
opportunity as [clears throat] well coming on board. Thank you guys for Very good. Well,
since I am the new one, would you guys mind going around the room and tell me [clears throat] who
you are and uh what is your role here maybe? Or how long you've been on the board and what?
I am the staff liaison. Pardon me. The staff liaison. Very good. So, you know,
I'm in charge of making sure everything is all day all memberships, all the backend stuff. So,
very good. It's nice to meet you. This is my first as a as a I was the leazison from the
park board and Oh, cool. And I guess I'm would be retail. Yep. Yeah. So, the board representative
from each course and then an aronomy specialist or some some background position. Um he's the
FNB food and beverage and and retail specialist. And then Evan who is on his honeymoon, not here.
He's our financial specialist. Yeah. He sent me a text and I said, "Are you just letting me know
you're cancelled it?" And he just never responded. So, um, my name's Jesse. I represent texts. Oh,
very good. So, that's [clears throat] And I go for text all the time. And And you
ate those bag placements. [laughter] Dirty. It was a dirty town. Like, good lord. What is it?
makes you shake your head like yeah. Nice to meet you. Welcome. Thank you, sir. Jeremy's
here just tonight because we were talking about Sammy the superintendent at very nice meeting.
I represent dogs. That's right. Okay. I'm Randy and I represent you had the
cash on number six. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It works. Yeah. Good. Good. Anyway, I represent Sam.
I'm Trevor Trio. I'm the food and beverage and marketing supervisor. Um,
I also do whatever else needs to be done. I be there the stuff with the computer. I
answer the emails from the customer service side of things. Sometimes
help sitting out on the front. Whatever else you ask me do. I've never seen it,
but I know he customs a lot. The emails pop up. Really? [laughter] What is your favorite word?
Thanks, sir. Thank you, dude. It's good to meet you guys. And Marca,
how's your back now? I'm golfing. I'm not golfing well,
but I'm not golfing. And I can blame it on the shoulder. So, there you go. Yeah,
I just want to make sure I have these down. My brother just had open heart surgery.
Amy [clears throat] was a little spend.