1 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Okay, thank you. 6:00 p.m. 2 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,400 It's my honor to 3 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,990 welcome each and every one of you. 4 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,110 It's August 25th. 5 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,960 The council meeting 6 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,400 and council 7 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,960 Angie Delainey is not with us tonight. 8 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:13,680 She's busy with her work um 9 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,000 to the Cariboo 10 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,070 Fire Centre fighting fire. 11 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,560 It's my honor to acknowledge that we are 12 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,560 gathered in the William Lake 13 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,680 First Nations Sepwepemc people's unceded 14 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,280 territory. 15 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,400 Thanks to the elder chief the nation 16 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,160 allowing us to do the business. 17 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,640 And equally I'm honored to 18 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,280 welcome Dr. 19 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,280 uh Director Forsythe. 20 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,640 Very kind good neighbor 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,280 us. 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,160 And welcome Director. 23 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Agenda on the table, please. 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,600 >> Some second. 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,440 >> Moved and second Councillor Flash Flood, 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Councillor Nelson. Any addition 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,120 deletion? Hearing none, all in favor. 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,990 Carried. 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Minute of the regular council meeting 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,440 held August 11. 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,800 >> So moved. 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,759 >> Moved and second council Nelson, 33 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,720 counselor Flasholler. 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,520 All in favor. 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,070 I also like to welcome uh 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,280 our downtown Business Association 37 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,040 executive director. 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,070 Very welcome. 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,800 I had a very exciting 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,840 and rewarding news to share with you. 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,560 I don't know how many of you have heard 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,880 before I move further on down the 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,520 agenda. It's not on the agenda, by the 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 way. Don't scroll your 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 uh laptop or computer. 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Pat Matthew, 47 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,160 one of our best uh 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 announcer, part of the Goat family, 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,800 is retiring from the Goat 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,680 after 45 year being on air. 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,959 >> Mhm. 52 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:00,360 >> So, if any one of you see him 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,400 downtown somewhere, please wish him 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,470 good luck and congratulate him. 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,800 It's a honor to work with the guy. 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 I remember many election 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,519 I have done, he was always there. 58 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:19,120 Cuz he made my ads. That's how I know. 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Very good man. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Hell of a person, you can always see him 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,040 walking anywhere on the city of Williams 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,120 Lake. 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Well, moving along, 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,760 uh computer checks, please. Staff. 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Oh, sorry. Counselor Moses. 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,959 >> Um on on the topic you were just 67 00:03:39,959 --> 00:03:41,880 speaking of, have have we had your 68 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,440 worship provide provide Pat with an 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,320 achievement award yet? 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,080 >> I am not aware, at least. 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,880 >> Okay. 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Um could we uh 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,720 >> I'll second the motion. 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,240 >> motion for that? 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,320 So what 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,840 >> Um, your worship through the council, so 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,880 it actually doesn't need a resolution, 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,600 just a request to the mayor. The mayor 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,240 provides a certificate 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 >> we uh 81 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,840 >> second the recommendation from 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,959 Councillor Moses. 83 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:11,760 >> The resolution is the mayor be 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,480 authorized to provide a letter of 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,000 achievement award to Pat Matthew at the 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,120 gold uh on the next council meeting. 87 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,760 >> Along with the certificate. 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,919 >> Is that okay with the mover and 89 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:24,480 seconder? 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,000 >> Perfect, thank you. 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,440 >> All in favor? 92 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Carried [clears throat] unanimously. 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Congratulations, Mr. Matthew. 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,070 Okay, computer checks. 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,200 » The recommendation that the accounts 96 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,840 payable computer check and EFT listings 97 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,880 dated August 13th and 20th, 2026 be 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,960 received for information. 99 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,960 >> So moved. 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,800 >> Moved and seconded, Councillor Nelson, 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Councillor Beam. All in favor? 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,480 Carried unanimously. 103 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Council attending UBCM annual 104 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,800 conference. 105 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,120 >> The recommendation that pursuant to the 106 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,320 report of the manager of administrative 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,720 services dated August 19th, 2026, 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,760 council approve compensation, registration, and travel 109 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,400 expenses for interested council members 110 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,480 to attend the UBCM annual convention 111 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,919 being held in Vancouver, BC from 112 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:06,360 September 14th to 18th, 2026. 113 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,560 >> So moved. 114 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,240 >> Moved and seconded, Councillor Nelson, 115 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,280 Councillor Slash Fuller. 116 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,200 Uh some of us are traveling on 13th, so 117 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,840 we can join 118 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,240 on 14 our 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,280 um schedule, and I believe some staff 120 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,240 member are traveling on 14th morning. 121 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Councillor Moses, please. 122 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 >> Thank you, your worship. Yeah, uh UBCM 123 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,280 is an event where we get to have the 124 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,480 ears of of the provincial government and 125 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,880 of the the Union of BC Municipalities 126 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,680 itself. I think this is a really 127 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,280 important year for us to be attending to 128 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,640 make sure that our community's needs are 129 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,040 heard and that we can continue obtaining 130 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,040 the the services and the funding that we 131 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 need to to live the lifestyles that we 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 we've we've earned up here in Williams 133 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,040 Lake. 134 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,640 >> Thank you, Councillor Mozar, explaining 135 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 that. All in favor? 136 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Carried unanimously. Next item is 137 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,600 cannabis license referral for 420- 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,280 1185 Prosperity Way, 139 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:09,760 Marlon Den. 140 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,000 >> The recommendation that pursuant to the 141 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,720 report of the planner dated August 17th, 142 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,880 2026, Council direct staff to initiate 143 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,520 the public notification and agency 144 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,919 referrals process for the proposed 145 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:19,840 relocation of an existing retail 146 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:23,520 cannabis store to be located at 420-1185 147 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Prosperity Way, legally described as Lot 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,320 3, District Lot 7046, 7047, and 8836, 149 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,040 Cariboo District Plan BCP 38739 150 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,360 for the provincial license referral, and 151 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,919 further this application be brought back 152 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:37,440 for final consideration of Council at 153 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,919 their October 6th, 2026 regular meeting 154 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:41,320 following receipt of the public input at 155 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,080 the meeting as well as agency and public 156 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,040 comments received after completion of 157 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,520 the public notification process, 158 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,000 including notices to be posted by the 159 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,200 applicant in the required time frame, 160 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,560 conducted in a format as approved by the 161 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,110 chief administrative officer. 162 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,840 » Moved and seconded. Before anybody 163 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,560 raise your hand, I just want you to know 164 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,240 this is not increase in licensing in 165 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Williams Lake. 166 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,720 This is only relocating from point A to 167 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,160 point B, number one. Number two, 168 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,160 uh I was asked to let Council member 169 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,320 know 170 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,720 we should not be discussing anything 171 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 in particular. Should just process 172 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,440 starting point. 173 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 The proponent of the license is here. If 174 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,600 you have any question, I can request the 175 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,160 proponent to come to the podium and 176 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 answer any question. 177 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 At this point, I would respectfully 178 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,080 request 179 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,120 try to stick 180 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,680 with the starting of the process. 181 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,120 That's it. No more, no less. It's not 182 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,640 approval or disapproval. It's 183 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,160 authorization 184 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 so staff can start the process. That's 185 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,480 what it is. 186 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,200 >> I'll call the question. 187 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,720 >> Thank you. Question been called. All in 188 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,520 favor. 189 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Carried unanimously. Thank you. 190 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Free transit service municipal day, 191 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Saturday, October 17th. 192 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,360 >> The recommendation that pursuing to the 193 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,480 report of the director of municipal 194 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,960 services dated August 19th, 2026, 195 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,880 council approve free transit service I 196 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 conventional and Handi-Dart for 197 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,080 municipal election day taking place on 198 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Saturday, October 17th, 2026. 199 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,240 >> Move the recommendation, your worship. 200 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,520 >> Moved and second, Councillor Nelson, 201 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Councillor Beams. Tradition we have done 202 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,080 every election. 203 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,400 So, the people have no excuse that they 204 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,240 could not travel or do not can't afford 205 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,080 the taxi or couldn't get the ride. It's 206 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,640 to promote democracy. Any question, 207 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 comment, concern? Hearing none, all in 208 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 favor. Carried unanimously. 209 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Committee of the whole council report. 210 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,160 >> Committee recommendation that pursuing 211 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,280 to the report of the chief financial 212 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,400 officer dated August 1st, 2026, and 213 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,200 pursuing to the report of the chief 214 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,920 financial officer dated Nope, let's 215 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,160 repeat. Sorry. Council approve the 216 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,200 proposed budget 2027 and 5-year 217 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,440 financial plan preparation timeline. And 218 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 further that, one, staff be directed to 219 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,839 prepare budget based on maintaining 220 00:09:04,839 --> 00:09:06,480 services and staffing levels at existing 221 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,880 levels. Two, achieving a 0% increase in 222 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,400 the mill rate to be a goal for preparing 223 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,320 the budget. Three, a report be prepared 224 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,880 for council's consideration on options 225 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,200 for funding the water treatment plant 226 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,080 project. Four, staff be directed to 227 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,800 investigate options for grants to offset 228 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,040 the cost of capital projects. And five, 229 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,320 analysis be provided showing the cost of 230 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,560 maintaining the status quo service 231 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,720 levels compared with 2026 costs. 232 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,960 >> I'll move the recommendations, your 233 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,560 worship. 234 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,280 >> Moved and seconded. All it is 235 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,800 the council is 236 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,230 basically guiding the staff. I got you. 237 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,560 To start the process, 238 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,120 this council have 239 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,680 almost 2 months 240 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:53,430 under their operation. 241 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,120 The door is open for anybody and 242 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,320 everybody. Three council member are not 243 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,800 running. 244 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Three council member including me are 245 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,600 running. Whoever is in here 246 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,160 on November, 247 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 December onward, they will finalize. 248 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,920 As of today, 249 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,880 the guideline, this is just a strictly 250 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,120 guideline given 251 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,160 to the staff by the council committee of 252 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,280 the whole. We spent an hour 253 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,520 uh last Tuesday 254 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,680 on this item. 255 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,440 We're requesting the staff to maintain 256 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,560 the service level. 257 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,960 Highest priority is this council has 258 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,640 worked very hard 259 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,000 to obtain 25 260 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,200 .3 million-dollar project, 19-plus 261 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,160 million-dollar 262 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,560 on the water treatment plant. 263 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,120 The cost has gone up. 264 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,800 We just 265 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,280 approved the council member 266 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,720 going to UBCM. That's where we do 267 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,400 the arm wrestling with the provincial 268 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,520 and federal government. 269 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,880 We have requested last year to the 270 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,760 premier's office 271 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,000 that the budget for the water treatment 272 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 plan has gone way, way high than 25 273 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,440 million. 274 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,440 That's where we would be. 275 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Basically, council has given the 276 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,240 marching order 277 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,640 letting the staff know water treatment 278 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,480 plant is the highest priority. 279 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,920 We will hold everything else 280 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,360 the way it is. 281 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,240 The service level, 282 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,920 manpower level, there's no 283 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,800 at this point a reduction 284 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,280 or increase in services. 285 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,640 But again, 286 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,200 the new council when they're sworn in, 287 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,240 they would have the final say. 288 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 They would decide how they want it. 289 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Most of this council wanted to hold 290 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,350 the service level, the level we are in. 291 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,040 Nobody 292 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,880 is the saying one way or the other, but 293 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,600 hold the line. 294 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Everybody respecting being a physically 295 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,800 responsible, 296 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,360 they wanted to make sure 297 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,600 the ends are met with our budget. 298 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,840 I'm going to call Councillor Flash 299 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Councillor Nelson 300 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,440 to speak, please. 301 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,920 >> Thank you, Your Worship. 302 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Yes, I just want to state to the 303 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,400 community I will not be supporting this 304 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,840 um recommendation that came from the 305 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,840 committee. I did have uh quite a few 306 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,040 words um to support or to explain that 307 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,560 position in the Committee of the Whole 308 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:40,360 Council meeting. Um 309 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400 So that it's here on this live stream, I 310 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,320 want to explain that I cannot at this 311 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,160 stage support anything that has a 0% 312 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,680 tied to it. And it's for multiple 313 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:51,600 reasons. I feel at this point you 314 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,680 shouldn't be determining what a taxation 315 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:55,960 rate should be. And I noticed that it is 316 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,720 stated at 0% for the mill rate. 317 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Um I think it's really important for 318 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 community members to understand how 319 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,320 taxation works. 320 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,920 When you look at most communities and 321 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,120 they talk about how much their taxation 322 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,600 has gone up, they're talking about how 323 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,560 much of a difference that taxation was 324 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:17,670 from the year prior and what you paid. 325 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,000 When we're talking mill rates, most of 326 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,720 the research I've done most communities 327 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,520 don't talk about mill rate. Because a 328 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,000 mill rate is there 329 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 to assist a local government. if your 330 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,600 assessments go up 331 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,000 and you keep your mill rate at zero at 332 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,600 the same and you don't change it, guess 333 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,640 what? You're going to be paying taxes. 334 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Because those assessments go up and if 335 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,440 you keep it at the same mill rate, 336 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,800 you're going to be paying more. I've 337 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,360 seen members come into meetings here 338 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,240 where they've stated, 339 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,840 "What's the 0% I hear about? Why did my 340 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,000 taxes go up?" 341 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,440 That's part of how it works. A mill rate 342 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,520 is here for a local government so that 343 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,120 if your tax assessments also drop 344 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 substantially 345 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,600 and we have to increase the mill rate so 346 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 we get the same revenue to maintain the 347 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,600 services that we want to maintain for 348 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,760 this municipality. It's a tool for a 349 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,720 municipality. And I feel that this type 350 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,840 of talk just confuses the 351 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 community and I cannot support this type 352 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,800 of recommendation that my colleague put 353 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,120 on the table. 354 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,440 I feel that 355 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 we need to be fiscally responsible and 356 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,760 we do need to be fiscally responsible 357 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 for the constituents of this community 358 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,080 and that means planning for the future. 359 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,720 If you sit there and say, "Oh, we're not 360 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,600 changing anything right now." But all of 361 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 a sudden we realize and we are realizing 362 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,040 because we are doing asset management 363 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,080 finally that there are pipes in the 364 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,200 ground that need repair, we need to plan 365 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,440 for the future. We need to incorporate 366 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,560 that into our financial planning. Right 367 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,360 now determining a a set zero is, in my 368 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,200 opinion, 369 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,720 just a political position to gain 370 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 attention and votes. 371 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,520 And I'm going to be flat out, that is my 372 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,800 opinion. 373 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 And I won't support that and I will not 374 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,520 take that position. It's not fair to 375 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,920 staff. It's not fair to the community. 376 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,680 So, I will not be supporting this. Thank 377 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,320 you so much. 378 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,200 >> Thank you, Councillor Flashman. 379 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Councillor Wilson, please. 380 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,080 >> Well, for 4 years, I guess I've been 381 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,760 campaigning every year at budget time 382 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,440 because I voted against three of the 383 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,800 budgets because they had significant tax 384 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,120 increases in them. The last one I voted 385 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,960 for because it was at 0%. 386 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,480 I'm [clears throat] clear. 387 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,120 It is an affordability issue out there. 388 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Well, some members around this council 389 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,920 table want to open up the back of the 390 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,240 truck and start throwing out the money 391 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,160 and eat steak and corn and lobster. 392 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,280 It's okay to be thin right now because 393 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,560 people are asking you to make sure that 394 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,560 you're running a thin, tight 395 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,240 organization. 396 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,320 It's called affordability. 397 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,000 Pick up any newspaper right now. 398 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,120 This council previously This council 399 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,520 previously 400 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,160 had had a $16 million debt 10 years ago. 401 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Today, we owe $465,000 402 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 on five projects. 403 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,720 We're going to be just about debt-free. 404 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,680 We've got millions of dollars in the 405 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 bank. 406 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,800 It's called affordability. 407 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,560 There isn't a mayor that I haven't seen 408 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,040 yet, including the Vancouver mayor, has 409 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,920 gone on record 410 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,280 of running at 4 years at 0%. 411 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,880 So, they're feeling the pressure as 412 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,760 well. 413 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,640 The residents are saying, 414 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,800 "Make sure you're running a very tight 415 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,800 organization." There are geopolitical 416 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,800 clouds that are coming across British 417 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,120 Columbia. 418 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,320 And those are some of the impacts that 419 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,760 we have no control over. 420 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,160 These are the guidelines that we've 421 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,839 asked staff to do 422 00:17:02,839 --> 00:17:05,640 4 years in a row. 423 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,280 This very same recommendation is almost 424 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,720 carbon print for the last 4 years. 425 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,280 And the success that we have been able 426 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,720 to gain 427 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,640 out of being able to ensure that we 428 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 target a 0% 429 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,400 has been fantastic. It has brought us 430 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,000 significant capital projects 431 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 through grants. A significant amount of 432 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,400 projects of capital items that we have 433 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 spent money on. 434 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,520 So, 435 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,240 I'm not into wrapping up and looking to 436 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,840 spend lots of money. I want to be 437 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,000 fiscally responsible. And so, when 438 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,360 people turn to you and say, "It starts 439 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,600 at the local level." Thank you for 440 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,800 making it affordable 441 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,280 as a community to live in. 442 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,360 And while some of my colleagues want to 443 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:53,640 continue to eat lobster and steak and 444 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,600 a few extra pieces of corn on the side, 445 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 I think we just want to be a little bit more frugal with what's 446 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,080 going on with the tariff wars, what's 447 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,920 going on in the forest sector. 448 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,880 Let's continue to lead like we've led 449 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,520 for the last 4 years. 450 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Being smart, 451 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,680 understanding where we want to go, 452 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,760 and capitalize on the key project, which 453 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,720 is the water 454 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,880 project that we want to put in. 455 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,640 We already know that's going to be 17 to 456 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,560 20 million dollars. While we might be 457 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,960 debt-free, 458 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,680 we've got to figure out a way to ensure 459 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,680 that we can have safe, 460 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,880 potable 461 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,440 water in our community. So, I'll be 462 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,600 supporting the recommendations, Your 463 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,920 Worship. I think they're absolutely 464 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,960 fantastic. 465 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,720 >> Thank you. Appreciate Councillor Moses, 466 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,920 please. 467 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,150 >> Thank you, Your Worship. 468 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,120 Yeah, dur- during this budget process, 469 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:48,480 we're we're always bringing up that 470 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,800 we're accountable to the community for 471 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,360 keeping the costs low. And I agree this 472 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,840 is important. 473 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,120 But, I I also feel like that in this 474 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,840 process, we're often overlooking that 475 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,360 we're also accountable to our community 476 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,840 for providing quality services. 477 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,720 Our our goal in this budget process 478 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,680 should be to provide the best services 479 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,320 possible to our community for the lowest 480 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 cost possible and while being fiscally 481 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,440 responsible. 482 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Uh fiscal responsibility in this instance 483 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,840 could mean running as lean as possible 484 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 as my one colleague is pointing out or 485 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,040 it could mean making sure that we have 486 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,760 the funds to provide the services that 487 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,880 our community aspires to as my other 488 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,560 colleague is pointing out. And I I 489 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,440 really feel there's a middle between 490 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,720 these two that we're aiming to reach so 491 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,240 that we can keep the affordability while 492 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,400 also 493 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 really really trying hard to provide the 494 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,960 services that our community has grown 495 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,800 accustomed to. The these are services 496 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,280 that that we may have had for decades or 497 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,880 that we're even still trying to get. But 498 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,080 we're we're doing our best to ensure 499 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,720 that we can provide these and not only 500 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,360 that but to provide them at the lowest 501 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,640 cost possible. So 502 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,000 these are the hard goals that we're 503 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 trying to reach right now and I can see 504 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 the benefits in in all of my colleagues 505 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,640 views on it and I'm I'm really open to 506 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,000 ensuring that we can reach some of those 507 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,600 goals from each. Thank you, Your 508 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,200 Worship. 509 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,600 >> Thank you, Councillor Moser, Councillor 510 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,240 Beam. 511 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,520 >> Thank you, Your Worship, and I'm just 512 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,080 going to put my two cents in and as I 513 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160 reiterated the other night at our 514 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,880 meeting at last week this is going to be 515 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 a brand new council. Budget is over 516 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,280 months. It is not a one-day thing. So I 517 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,080 think it's a starting point it's staying 518 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,840 at zero. Your council, your next 519 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,120 council, whoever's elected, it can all 520 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,640 change and that's why there's such a 521 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,880 variety and so many points on how this 522 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,880 budget is coming through is because it 523 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,800 really depends who's here at the table. 524 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,280 And it's going to be a lot of debate and 525 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,680 it's a lot like the amount of 526 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,240 information that first term that people 527 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 have to from every department and how 528 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,200 everything is going is a lot to take in 529 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,360 and a lot to discuss and I just think 530 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,960 that that discussion is going to be in 531 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,320 the next group. There's no point in us 532 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800 getting in big debate. We've done it for 533 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,760 four years. Let's wait and see what this 534 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 new council does and leave it for them. 535 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Thank you. 536 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,520 >> Excellent point. 537 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,480 Second round, Councillor Flash will go 538 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240 before Councillor Nelson. 539 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720 >> Thank you, Your Worship. Um yeah, I I 540 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,600 understand what all my colleagues are 541 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,040 stating here and and I think it's 542 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,680 you know, all their points are very 543 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,720 important and very relevant. And and to 544 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,760 Councillor Brain's point, these will be 545 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,520 newly elected members and some of them 546 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,720 may be completely newly 547 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,440 elected members. And I want to make sure 548 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,800 that they're starting off 549 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,920 with a fresh open plate. I feel that if 550 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,520 this was wordsmithed a little bit 551 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,720 differently, it could be 552 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,400 um drafted so it's not already setting 553 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,360 um a 0% kind of conversation because 554 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,040 they could be deep in conversations and 555 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,120 it's going to come up at the table of 556 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,360 Listen to this council, you all voted 557 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,760 for 0%. I've seen and I've heard it. 558 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,400 And then there'll be pressure on those 559 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,880 individuals and I don't want those 560 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,480 individuals to have pressure. I want 561 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 those individuals to be able to look at 562 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,400 a budget that's created that's looking 563 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,440 at everything that a community possibly 564 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,320 is requesting. 565 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,320 How many groups have we seen come in 566 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,880 here that want a sports facility? They 567 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,680 want pickleball courts. They want active 568 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,400 transportation. 569 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,880 How's our waterfront development going? 570 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,760 We're not discussing that. It's like the 571 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,400 planning happens, a bit gets done, and 572 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,640 then it stops because big bucks take 573 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,040 is what is it what is needed to actually 574 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,880 make that stuff happen and that comes 575 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,920 from planning and budgeting 576 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,160 and now then transferring it into the 577 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,120 organizational plan. 578 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,120 That is part of that process. It's 579 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,320 important and I feel that we need to 580 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,880 listen to all these people that have 581 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,600 come here and said, "We want these 582 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,200 things." Sitting there and supporting a 583 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 feasibility plan doesn't mean you're 584 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,560 getting it. 585 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,280 And if you set a 0% kind of mentality 586 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,160 right after that, guess what? All you 587 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 individuals that want that, it takes 588 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,520 money. 589 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 It really does. So, 590 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,360 think about the words that are being 591 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,840 said. Is it for your vote or is it for 592 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,720 the actual reality of creating 593 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,480 something? Because there has to be 594 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,880 strong planning that has to be through 595 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,400 all of the process through the future. 596 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800 So, I think I just want the community to 597 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,440 think about that when they're making 598 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,960 their decisions 599 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,120 and 600 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,920 listening to the words that are being 601 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,000 said. I will not be running again. 602 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,280 But, I want the best for this community 603 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,920 and its future. Thank you. 604 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,960 >> Thank you, counselor. Welcome, counselor 605 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,360 Fleischhauer. Thank you. And counselor 606 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:46,320 Nelson, please. 607 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,920 >> Thank you very much. I I I I think that 608 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 I agree with all of you. I think that 609 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,200 this just creates a solid template, uh a 610 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560 direction that has been very successful 611 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,920 for this community over the last 4 612 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,960 years. 613 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Um look look Let's not kid ourselves. We 614 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920 we've got some big thunderstorms heading 615 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,560 from the south towards Canada. And uh it 616 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,880 doesn't look like it's going to end 617 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,720 soon. So, we need to ensure that that we're we're ready for them, that 618 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,720 we're prepared for them, that we are a 619 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,040 community in transition that will be 620 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,920 able to handle the storm. And this is no 621 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,440 ordinary storm. This is the perfect 622 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,120 economic storm that's going to ruin a 623 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,320 lot of communities in Canada. 624 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,120 So, we are well positioned to handle 625 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:33,520 this thunderstorm that's coming our way. 626 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,640 And by being extra frugal on this, 627 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,120 I'll even go one step further. 628 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,880 Councilor Moses and I were the two 629 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,880 that did not support removing the 630 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,880 permissive tax exemptions against 631 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,000 non-profit organizations. 632 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,560 And I can tell you today out of the 30 633 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,800 some odd permissive tax exemptions that 634 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,160 we give, 635 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,520 a number of those were were church 636 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 related. I have never seen the churches 637 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,640 come out and be so supportive over the 638 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,400 last couple of years. 639 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Those tax dollars that that we grant 640 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 them back are significant. The amount of 641 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,520 work that they give to our community 642 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,800 is just beyond words of thank you. So, 643 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,040 there's something else that you need to 644 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,800 pay attention to. I truly support and I 645 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,440 believe that this is the right direction 646 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,400 to go. This is a template. If seven new 647 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,000 people get elected and say, "Hey, no, 648 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920 we're changing this." It's a policy. 649 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,480 They get to change it. But, this 650 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,200 certainly provides a good guideline that 651 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,720 has given this community a very bright 652 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,240 future over the last four years. Thank 653 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,120 you. 654 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,120 >> Uh I totally agree with the both side of 655 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:41,080 the point. I think the word should be 656 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,600 here most of you said being physical 657 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,720 responsible. 658 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,960 I don't want to get stuck on the 0% or 659 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,080 4% or 5%. Long as we are zero physical 660 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 responsible, that's what the community 661 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,760 is asking for. And another thing is I 662 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,760 don't want it to tie hand for the next 663 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280 console like this console really cried 664 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320 when the previous console give us 665 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,040 $160,000 666 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960 hand tight beside other things. 667 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,440 It was excellent program. Nobody said no 668 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,000 to that, the child care, to the school 669 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,960 board. And 670 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,160 I rather be physical responsible. 671 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,400 Nothing get done free. 672 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,080 I totally agree. But, we cannot afford 673 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,120 to raising 10, 20, 15, 30% taxes. We had 674 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,160 a good meeting today, folks. 675 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,400 But, the working team 676 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,880 we got a eight 677 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,520 I think I said other day, if I didn't we 678 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,000 got a eight bid for the feasibility 679 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,200 study for the indoor facility. We short 680 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,520 listed three. Um we're working staff and 681 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,120 giving the direction 682 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,160 to invite those three to have a 683 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320 interview system set up done. Then we'll 684 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,240 pick whoever's going to do. 685 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,840 And we're looking forward. Yes. Those 686 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,320 issues came uh during those CP. 687 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,840 We have done 688 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520 record high capital, folks, last year. 689 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,640 We are doing record high capital this 690 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,280 year. Longer you wait 691 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,160 to do any infrastructure, 692 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,560 any work for the community, more it's 693 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,280 going to cost more. 694 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,920 So, we are holding. We're doing our 695 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,200 best. 696 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,120 Um 697 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:35,680 I was out and about yesterday and today. 698 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,400 Couple hours yesterday, couple hours 699 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,520 today. 700 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Trust me, 701 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,480 anybody that I talked to, 702 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680 this council got kudos from the people. 703 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320 There wasn't one person 704 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,680 who 705 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,120 was upset. Yes, there was a minor 706 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,960 concern raised. Yeah, we are concerned 707 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840 about the 708 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800 drug being used in the publicly in the 709 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,480 open, the homelessness, the mental 710 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,560 health. 711 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560 We know all these things and they know, 712 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120 they realize it there's nothing this 713 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,320 council can do, but we are keeping the 714 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,120 community informed. 715 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,960 We're working with the senior level of 716 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,360 government. We'll keep working. This is 717 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,920 just like I said the previous item, one 718 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,280 of the item. This is the guideline 719 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,240 for the staff. But final budget going to 720 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,800 come November, December, January at '27. 721 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880 So, don't get stuck on this. Council 722 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,150 motions, please. 723 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800 » Yes, thank you, Worship. 724 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Yeah, I agree with you, Worship. We 725 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880 don't want to be leaving the the hands 726 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,040 tied of the next council. Um if if these 727 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080 final budgetary decisions are going to 728 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360 be made by the incoming council in 729 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 November to January range, I feel like 730 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,840 our goals should shift slightly. Uh 731 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000 rather than leaving them with just our 732 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160 direction, maybe our goal should be to 733 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,880 leave them with that open plate of 734 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,720 options that Councillor Flaaten was 735 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280 talking about. And this this 736 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,880 recommendation that we're we're making 737 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200 tonight or that we're voting through, in reality, it's going to be a 738 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000 recommendation from us to the next 739 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,600 council. 740 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,200 >> Correct. 741 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 >> Yeah. So, so we need to make sure that 742 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,240 we leave them with the best options to 743 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,240 choose from possible. 744 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Um 745 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 if we end up leaving them with a plan 746 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920 that's lean, they can they can rework it 747 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,600 and add in what they believe that our 748 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,320 community needs 749 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,560 once they're once they're elected. It's 750 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,480 very difficult for us to add in their 751 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,120 ideas right now because we don't know 752 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,960 who's going to be in these chairs in a 753 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320 few months. But if we if we leave them a 754 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360 strong template that they can add to, I 755 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,400 think that's probably our our 756 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,960 way of moving forward. Thank you, 757 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Worship. 758 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440 >> Thank you. I'll call the question. All 759 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,160 in favor. 760 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,240 Opposed. Councillor Flaaten opposed. 761 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Motion carried. 762 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,240 Uh 763 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,400 >> Thank you, Worship. 764 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,080 >> Thank you, Councillor Nelson and 765 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,480 everyone else. 766 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560 UBCM resolution. 767 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360 >> Clerk note that the letter from the UBCM 768 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,280 dated August 11th, 2026 regarding 769 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280 extraordinary resolutions 2025 ER1 770 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,840 existing policy as related to City of 771 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Williams Lake's 2026 healthcare provider 772 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,360 crisis resolution submission be received 773 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,390 for information. 774 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160 » Moved and seconded Councillor Flaaten, 775 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Councillor Moses. 776 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Councillor Bain, please. 777 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,080 >> Thank you, Worship. Yeah, as I was the 778 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280 person that wrote this one. Of course, 779 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,760 I'm disappointed, but I'm also the 780 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,200 person on UBCM. So, I just want to 781 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840 provide some clarification. Although I 782 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,760 wasn't part of the discussion of having 783 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760 these cuz I think they continue to be as 784 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,440 you can see by all of the uh many uh 785 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,800 resolutions that were put forward on 786 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,400 this issue that it's not going to not be 787 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800 an issue, but the plan from UBCM is you 788 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160 just get as you all know so many 789 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,360 resolutions and you cannot possibly 790 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,360 follow up. So, the goal is to of course 791 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680 streamline them, to make them to put 792 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 them together because there are just so 793 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,960 many. I mean, what uh 794 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,680 what does FCM have? Three or four? I 795 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480 mean, like we have hundreds every year 796 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,440 and so to go through. So, I understand 797 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880 the mentality on the UBCM board side, of 798 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080 course, being part of that decisioning 799 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200 board, but doesn't mean I won't be 800 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 following up on this one and seeing how 801 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,080 I still think there needs to be a huge 802 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,000 task force. I've actually 803 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000 um mentioned that, I mean, 804 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,440 to the premier uh that this needs is a 805 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 big issue to get more education through 806 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,280 to to to people, but anyway, this will 807 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520 be something I will follow up with and 808 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,160 uh although disappointing to not be able 809 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,720 to bring it forward, it is obviously 810 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120 such an issue as multiple have brought 811 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960 it forward and will continue to be in 812 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,440 front of UBCM, I'm sure. 813 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:48,840 >> Thank you. 814 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Councillor Beam. Keep up the 815 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 good work. Councillor Moses. 816 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,880 >> Thank you, Your Worship. Yeah, I agree 817 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,000 with my colleague that it's 818 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,600 disappointing that this won't be brought 819 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,480 to the floor at the UBCM convention. Um 820 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760 in in response to this, could we perhaps 821 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760 make sure that these topics are added 822 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,400 into our meetings with the provincial 823 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,120 ministers at the UBCM convention so that 824 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440 we can still do our own personal 825 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560 advocating for for these topics that are 826 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,280 important to our community? 827 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,120 >> That point will taken and we have to 828 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,960 see. I'll talk to the staff. 829 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,400 >> Okay. 830 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,120 >> And what is the other priority? Because 831 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,200 in 15 minutes, I don't want to lose the 832 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920 time for more important subjects. Then, 833 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,160 I'm not saying this is less important, 834 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200 but I'll point well taken. 835 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,280 >> Okay, if if they can fit 836 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,880 >> Definitely. 837 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,280 >> Thank you. 838 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Your Worship. 839 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,680 >> Thank you. I call Councillor Fasbender, 840 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800 please. 841 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,240 >> Thank you, Your Worship. Yeah, I have 842 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120 question actually for my colleague 843 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Councillor Bayne in regards to this. Um 844 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640 Ultimately though, is this 845 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200 transpiring, Councillor Bayne, because 846 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520 there's other resolutions that are so 847 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,040 consistent coming from other 848 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,520 municipalities? So, I if that's true, I 849 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,360 just want the community to understand 850 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,440 that as much as this is being indicated 851 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280 as being put on the back burner, and 852 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,760 this is 2025 resolutions, correct? Not 853 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720 what we have coming up for 2026. 854 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,680 This is last year. 855 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,880 >> That's when we put it. 856 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520 >> And yeah, so I just want to provide 857 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,000 clarity to the community that these may 858 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440 get bypassed by UBCM, and they're 859 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,480 letting us know, but it's because 860 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,040 there's other resolutions from other 861 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,400 communities that maybe are somewhat 862 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320 consistent. I see one from Dawson Creek 863 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320 and Alberni-Clayoquot 864 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,520 Regional District. So, 865 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,240 >> I'll get to Councillor Bayne to respond 866 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320 to that. Please, Councillor Bayne. 867 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,640 >> Thank you, Your Worship, through to 868 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Councillor Flash Blur. So, actually 869 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,920 what's happened is what they're saying 870 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400 is within the last 5 years or that there 871 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,920 have been similar resolutions, and 872 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,560 they're listing all of them, how many of 873 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,320 us have come up with. So, that's what 874 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,280 I'm saying, it's a consistent problem 875 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,520 because so many communities are 876 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440 continuing to say in the regional 877 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,960 northern regions, we are still and and 878 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,120 rural, that we are missing providers, we 879 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,080 need help, blah blah blah. But if these 880 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040 have have already been put through and 881 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160 dealt with, like been escalated to the 882 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640 government, so these could be from this 883 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,040 year, but they're saying they're just 884 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,080 listing ones that were in or near the 885 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,560 same, but it could have been last year. 886 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,639 And this is our this year, 2025 was we 887 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,080 had to have them in 888 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,960 last year, like we did these in February 889 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,560 or March or whatever. We put them in 890 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,760 before NCLGA. So, this is our 2026 or 891 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600 whatever, but yeah. 892 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,480 it would have it we I just wrote 893 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,720 this one for February or whatever this 894 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,760 year before NCLGA. So, and I think they 895 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,000 had to be in by March. But that said, so 896 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,600 these are very similar. What they're 897 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,200 saying is we've addressed this or it's 898 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,919 been it's too similar, so they're just 899 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:41,600 trying to streamline. 900 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,399 Um that doesn't mean it's not part of 901 00:34:43,399 --> 00:34:44,760 the conversation because so many of us 902 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,760 are still dealing with this as an issue, 903 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,240 but they're saying it has been brought 904 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:52,040 forward and they are not going to like 905 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,600 they'll do it as a group. We know that 906 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,000 that's an issue kind of thing. Yeah. 907 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,560 >> Perfect. Okay. Yeah. 908 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:56,960 Good. Thank you. 909 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,880 >> Okay, 910 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680 have you got all your question answered? 911 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Excellent. 912 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,720 >> Yeah. 913 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,680 >> All in favor of receiving 914 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,760 carried. 915 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,240 Well, and next one is proclamation 916 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,160 recognition, please. 917 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,760 >> I move that the list of recognitions in 918 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,280 the agenda be approved in accordance 919 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160 with council policy number 235 just be 920 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,840 received for information. 921 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,000 >> So moved. 922 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,080 >> Moved and second. I got 923 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,710 um 924 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,760 representative of IHA sitting here. If 925 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,680 you had any question, 926 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,720 she's available. She could be talked and 927 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,280 we got the information and color. It's a 928 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,360 pretty disturbing news and information. 929 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,120 It's quite heart-touching information. I 930 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000 would request everybody please read and 931 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,040 pay attention to the cause of Moses. 932 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,440 >> Thank you, Worship. Uh you're saying 933 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,920 we've got a representative from from the 934 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,800 >> IHA. 935 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160 >> I um 936 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,240 I've seen them. 937 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:54,560 Yeah. 938 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,880 >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 939 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,480 >> Um could could you uh would you be 940 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120 willing to give us a a rundown of the 941 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360 event that that's in the 942 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,920 in our notes here, the International 943 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Overdose Awareness? 944 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,280 Yeah. 945 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,480 Um Is is it 946 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,040 >> Hold Hold on. Let me get the 947 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:11,920 >> Well, you said we could ask her a 948 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,640 question. 949 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960 >> I have to get the protocol first. 950 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320 Is it okay to 951 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,840 Okay. Is council uh my direction is it's 952 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,240 okay if council approve it. Are you for 953 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,080 council okay? 954 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120 Please, floor is yours. 955 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:27,640 >> Thank you, counselor. 956 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,840 >> Thank you very much. My name is Sophie 957 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,480 Gallivan. I work for CMHA and I am the 958 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480 chair of the community action team. 959 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,880 is actually 960 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,880 organizing our International Overdose 961 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,440 Awareness Day on Monday, the 31st. 962 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,080 I would invite you all to attend and I 963 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,000 would invite anybody in the community to 964 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,640 attend. 965 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,280 The statistics that I gave you are 966 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,000 actually pulled from into Interior 967 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,120 Health. 968 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,800 And the most I think the most shocking 969 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,000 one, something that I want for everyone 970 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 to keep in mind, is the 68% of our 971 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,360 overdose deaths are happening in homes. 972 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,960 >> Yes. 973 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,840 >> These are our neighbors, our friends. I 974 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,440 have encountered, met with many people 975 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,640 in the community who have said, "I know 976 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,640 someone who passed away. I know that my 977 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,880 family member is struggling with, 978 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,960 you know, substance use." 979 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,200 I would love for everyone to consider 980 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,280 the possibility of spreading that information out there. 981 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,400 The stigmatization is the thing that 982 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,240 keeps people away from asking for help. 983 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,160 That keeps people away from 984 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,080 possibly even utilizing some of the 985 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,760 services that are available in this 986 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120 community. And we have a lot of services 987 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,480 in this community 988 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,400 that are ready to help, to educate, 989 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,080 inform. 990 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120 And so the 68% is the one that really 991 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,400 sticks with me because I've seen the 992 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,840 reaction of people in the community. 993 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,320 These are people that are voting for 994 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,400 you. 995 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,960 They are people that are part of our 996 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,800 businesses, our organizations. Men in 997 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160 trades, specifically, 998 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,720 are a high number, a high risk. 999 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,560 And so, I would just encourage you, 1000 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,680 please, to spread that word around. It's 1001 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200 really important. We want people to be 1002 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,800 curious 1003 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,760 about how to prevent this, how to 1004 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,440 support our family members, how to 1005 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,440 support our neighbors. 1006 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400 are dying. 1007 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040 And so the number increased by I think 1008 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,040 11 or 10, I'm going to say 10. I'm going to 1009 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680 keep it there over 1 year. 1010 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160 That's a lot. It's a lot. And everybody 1011 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,600 else who is at risk and we all know how 1012 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,240 the um substances are more and more 1013 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,640 toxic. 1014 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,760 Right? So, um for the day itself, we 1015 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,080 will be starting at 11:00 in the 1016 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,320 morning. We will be at Herb Gardener 1017 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Park on Oliver Street. Purposefully, 1018 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,280 too, because we want people to see us. 1019 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,760 We want people to be curious to come by 1020 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,880 and to maybe pick up an overdose kit and 1021 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,520 learn how to use it. 1022 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,680 Learn what uh what they can do. 1023 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,560 Um and again, this is this is not just 1024 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600 on the streets in our community. This is 1025 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560 in homes. And to normalize a 1026 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,000 conversation around substance use and um 1027 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,400 overdose. 1028 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,160 To normalize this. 1029 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,120 It would be an ideal situation. So, we 1030 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,160 would like to invite the community and 1031 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,360 even yourselves to please attend. Uh 1032 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,680 come by. We're going to have many 1033 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,800 tables. There will be 1034 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,360 hot dogs and there will be ice cream and 1035 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560 we will be uh handing that out to the 1036 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,320 community that does attend. 1037 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,240 Yeah? 1038 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,920 >> And once again, once again, it's 31st 1039 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,560 August and what time you said? 1040 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,360 >> From 11:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. 1041 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,000 >> 11:00 to 2:00. So, we welcome you. 1042 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,600 >> have speakers as well that will be 1043 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,280 sharing their stories. We will have some 1044 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,760 activities. There will be a community 1045 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,520 canvas that we are going to be working 1046 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,480 on uh where people can place names of of 1047 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 those they have lost or 1048 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480 um just messages of hope and 1049 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,320 encouragement and um there will be some 1050 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,960 music as well. 1051 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,440 And so we 1052 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,160 are going to make this event a a 1053 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040 successful one. And I hope that 1054 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,520 everybody 1055 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040 >> No, I excellent. Excellent. We'll 1056 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,440 encourage the community to come and 1057 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,040 attend and share the information on the 1058 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,560 back of the page which is in the 1059 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440 package. There's number of a phone 1060 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,920 numbers where we can get the help. 1061 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Councillor Moazzam, I think you had your 1062 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,120 hand up, please. 1063 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,960 >> Yeah, thank your worship. Thank you for 1064 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,120 this information. I've seen a lot of 1065 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,880 these numbers before through different 1066 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,560 organizations, but they're they're 1067 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,600 always shocking. Um do you happen to 1068 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,280 have a digital copy of this to share and 1069 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,440 yes um would is it okay if the city were 1070 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,400 to share this page if if it were 1071 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,160 forwarded to us? 1072 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,760 >> I don't see any reason why 1073 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,840 >> So, we can send it out. 1074 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,840 >> Yes. 1075 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,240 >> Okay. 1076 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,360 >> So long as you send it out. 1077 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,200 >> Yes, 1078 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760 would you please email it to to our 1079 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,080 office? 1080 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,640 >> Mr. Gubbay, Mr. Gubbay. 1081 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,760 >> Yes, sir. 1082 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,600 And thank you very much for the support 1083 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,320 because we will be posting something on 1084 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960 social media and you've allowed me to 1085 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,680 place some posters out and so we're very 1086 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640 grateful for that support. 1087 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,320 >> Thank you. 1088 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,680 >> All right. 1089 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,120 >> Appreciate it. 1090 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640 All in favor of the motion. 1091 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400 I'll vote if any carried unanimously. 1092 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400 Information announcement and round 1093 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,760 table. There's no round table, but 1094 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,760 anyway council information package. 1095 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,560 >> Council note that the council 1096 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,800 information package for August 25th 2026 1097 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,920 be received for information. 1098 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,400 >> So moved. 1099 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,720 >> Moved and second. All in favor. 1100 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:43,030 >> Move to adjourn. 1101 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,920 » Moved and seconded. All in favor. 1102 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,240 Carried. Thank you, folks. 1103 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:47,760 >> Good job. 1104 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,720 >> Appreciate it.