1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:16,260 Okay, it's six o'clock in the morning of November the 6th, 2023 with a roll call. 2 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,780 Councilman Westman. 3 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Councilman Greg Turner. 4 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:32,400 Councilman Markis Yaks. 5 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:38,440 Mayor Pro Temp, Joe and Podrotti here, and Mayor Denryth. 6 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:39,200 I'm here also. 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,940 We have a colleague. 8 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:50,800 Mr. Mayor, Mr. Assembly for which the next one is. 9 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:53,860 I'm glad, and it is a little, a little bit of a great decision. 10 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,300 It's all for me. 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,060 Great with me. 12 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:59,040 I got thank you for this time for this season of love. 13 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:04,220 May we express that love to those who are around us and to those in our community. 14 00:01:04,220 --> 00:01:09,080 be with us as we deliver your city and it's in your name we pray. 15 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:11,640 I love your heart. 16 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:15,620 All right. 17 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:24,380 Because sometimes, I think we did this last time and it was useful to get some of the presentations out of the way. 18 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,820 So we are allowed to do this because we're not going to take any action. 19 00:01:27,820 --> 00:01:32,760 So what I'd like to do is begin with recognition 20 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,660 of 20 years of service to Ryan Nichol. 21 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,480 Public, 22 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:49,230 actually, I didn't know he had a real name 23 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:51,890 because I know everybody knows me. 24 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:54,250 Mayor, I hear a call to you, thank you, Mayor. 25 00:01:54,510 --> 00:01:57,270 So the record, we're skipping Dissection 5. 26 00:01:57,790 --> 00:02:00,070 We're skipping Dissection 5. 27 00:02:00,170 --> 00:02:01,270 That's what you said yesterday. 28 00:02:01,670 --> 00:02:02,370 It's last. 29 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:15,350 You know, I love public works because they're there before we show up, they're doing their event and they're there after we're done and what they do largely goes unknown is 30 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:24,530 So I very much appreciate what you are doing and what you've got from the city you are an icon and so very much appreciate that your services. 31 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:26,190 Thank you Mr. 32 00:02:42,570 --> 00:02:47,370 All right, now I'm moving to section number seven presentations. 33 00:02:51,810 --> 00:02:57,010 City Council receive a presentation for Leonard John City and here on the dog park. 34 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,870 That's a good question for proposals of this. 35 00:02:59,670 --> 00:03:00,350 It's a good question. 36 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Good evening, Mayor. 37 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:06,060 Thank you, Mayor. 38 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,860 Again, this is the location of the All Park. 39 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 If you recall, you started off with a bigger dog park. 40 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,880 If the last council meeting or previous council meeting, 41 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,040 we reduced the size of the park. 42 00:03:26,460 --> 00:03:28,820 So that's what it looks like now. 43 00:03:35,450 --> 00:03:39,150 Again, council and authorized a budget of 85,000 44 00:03:39,150 --> 00:03:42,330 and the order to this is the podcast, free to sleep. 45 00:03:42,730 --> 00:03:46,730 In July, we made a presentation that we had identified 46 00:03:46,730 --> 00:03:53,550 a contractor to construct the park. 47 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:57,630 This was a buy board contract, which meant 48 00:03:57,630 --> 00:04:01,290 that we did not have to go through the bid process. 49 00:04:01,290 --> 00:04:12,890 In September, I brought that contractor proposal to you, you discussed it, and you made a decision 50 00:04:12,890 --> 00:04:25,790 at that time that we should go out, develop plans for a smaller part, and develop plans 51 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:27,470 and did the project. 52 00:04:29,170 --> 00:04:31,990 We did reduce the size. 53 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:36,430 We developed bit documents. 54 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:40,490 The bit were developed for the project, 55 00:04:41,290 --> 00:04:45,610 and advertised in November of 2022. 56 00:04:45,730 --> 00:04:49,790 We held a pre-bit conference on December 22, 57 00:04:50,930 --> 00:04:53,210 with some potential bidders. 58 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:59,330 Beads worth open publicly on January to 12th. 59 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,360 The Senate received seven bids. 60 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:22,340 These are the bidders and the order of the bid. Three feet concrete as a lowest bidder, a parent, low bidder for 51,700 dollars, they're out of count of taxes. 61 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:30,300 I'm not going to read all of the names, but you can see the prices range in the work 62 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:41,300 from 52,200 and $7,000 for the project, which we will visit to get 7,7 debtors 63 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:42,560 to bid on the project. 64 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:50,350 We get reference checks on the bidder. 65 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:58,950 And we looked at the three lowest bidder, and we did reference checks on those three bidder. 66 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:04,810 All the reference checks came back very good for all three contractors. 67 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:14,110 I had conversations with all three bidders just to make sure when you begin to look at the bid, 68 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:18,890 between $52 and $7,000, it's always a concern 69 00:06:18,890 --> 00:06:21,850 and they do the work, and as you have outlined 70 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:26,470 in the Fifth Documents, two of the bidders, 71 00:06:27,250 --> 00:06:31,830 unquote, fence, and straight line management set 72 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:34,650 that they could do the work as fit. 73 00:06:36,170 --> 00:06:39,810 The lowest bidder, three fee concrete, 74 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:49,790 They had concerns and questions, and I met them on site to discuss their bid. 75 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:57,410 And I was informed that they could not do the work for the amount that was given. 76 00:06:58,510 --> 00:07:04,870 There was in the bid, they had to retain a minimum two inches under the fence, 77 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:10,010 And they have to do some clearing and grading in order to set the best one. 78 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:13,210 They did not include that in their bid. 79 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:20,830 They did not go to the site, which some of the most of the contracts did deserve the 80 00:07:20,830 --> 00:07:21,350 condition. 81 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:28,730 They did not, during the bid process, contracts have an opportunity to call us or submit the 82 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:29,730 mail questions. 83 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:31,370 And we respond to that. 84 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:39,770 We actually submitted questions, responded to questions and asked during the dead process. 85 00:07:41,650 --> 00:07:50,480 When we looked at that, we considered 30-p concrete, dead, non-responsive. 86 00:07:55,210 --> 00:07:59,710 After review of the registered as a dead document, 87 00:07:59,710 --> 00:08:14,250 It is our recommendation that you wore the time prime to uncoor fence for $57,855. 88 00:08:19,370 --> 00:08:23,240 Just give you a question. 89 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,140 Yes, we have to wait till the presentation. 90 00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:35,520 Okay, on your, the document you gave us, you said that a word of contract in the amount 91 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:42,520 of 57,855 dollars and then down in the bottom it says, it has also recommended that 92 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,120 the sum of 14,000 being reserved as a contingency fund. 93 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:52,140 Are you saying reserved 14,000 from the 57,000 or add 14,000 to the 57,000? 94 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:57,180 And I was going to get to that in the new, in the recommendation. 95 00:08:59,380 --> 00:09:02,360 So we're talking 71,000, 8,155 dollars. 96 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:03,300 Yes, what you want. 97 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:04,380 Okay. 98 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:06,860 But it would be held in a research. 99 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:08,800 It's not there for the contract. 100 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:14,640 It would be for the city manager if he needed to add anything to the contract. 101 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 The money would be available to do. 102 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:17,620 Right. 103 00:09:17,620 --> 00:09:22,120 What we're saying is we're going to build a dog park at a maximum of 104 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:26,120 $155.00 and if we don't use it all, it goes back to the kitty. 105 00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:26,520 Right. 106 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Well, anyway. 107 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,320 A fence. 108 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,500 A fence. 109 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,220 Yes. 110 00:09:31,820 --> 00:09:31,920 Yes. 111 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,700 You said dog park. 112 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,520 It's going to make sure that this bit is for a fence. 113 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,300 It's a dog park. 114 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,000 When I say dog park, I mean, well, I'm just saying there can be more to the dog park, but 115 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,480 I can't. 116 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:41,360 I can't. 117 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:41,780 For the fence. 118 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:42,740 For the dog park. 119 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:53,640 And as you have authorized or you have directed city staff that the Council would consider 120 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,600 build in the project for 85,000. 121 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,700 All right, give the bill a total of $71, almost $72,000. 122 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,260 Okay, thank you, sir. 123 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:15,300 But I'm core finton. Their bid is responsive. The project is within the proposed budget. They have demonstrated 124 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:22,920 experiences and building projects this size. They have the equipment and personnel to 125 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:33,360 do the project. And again, the excellent references are there. And again, we do recommend 126 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:39,920 $14,000, we've reserved and intensive funds for unforeseen issues or addition that 127 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,180 It may be a great question. 128 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,600 OK, so if you're recommendation that this council approve and 129 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,720 expenditure of $71,000 and $55 for the dog park fence, 130 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:53,660 could you have already done that? 131 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,360 Because then I think we've already approved the expenditure. 132 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:00,260 It's just letting the contract is what we're working on now. 133 00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:04,460 I didn't know we'd approved the $71,000, but that's OK. 134 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:05,980 It approved 85,000. 135 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:06,820 We approved 85. 136 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:07,500 Yes, sir. 137 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,500 It comes in under that we're happy council. 138 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,320 Thank you, Mr. Young. 139 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,000 And again, this is the fence in the pipe. 140 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:19,140 It meant in two. 141 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,840 The other one was similar to this, but this is the fence that would be installed. 142 00:11:27,510 --> 00:11:31,530 In any questions or directions you have. 143 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:38,550 I appreciate that you went out for the bids because this certainly came in under what the previous bid was. 144 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,140 All right, any more questions on the dog fence? 145 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:47,020 All right. 146 00:11:47,180 --> 00:11:50,740 We'll move on to the City Council. 147 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:53,340 We'll see the presentation from Leonard Young City, 148 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:57,140 a general on this new pool located at 8.5-0-6-1. 149 00:11:58,340 --> 00:12:01,360 But before we do that, so we're buying the fence now, right? 150 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:01,800 We're done. 151 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:05,120 We can't vote on anything because we haven't had citizens to be heard. 152 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,180 So we can't take any action at this point. 153 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,280 We can get presentations. 154 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Again, this is the food site, a Minister of Food located on Winson. 155 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Again, over the past several years, 156 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,740 the city has considered several options to require 157 00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:37,400 a place to pool. 158 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:46,660 One of the concerns that the Council on Hand is to warranty if you renovate the pool. 159 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:50,900 We have discussions about renovating the pool. 160 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Then we came back at the plant site land presentation. 161 00:12:57,380 --> 00:13:00,420 There's a pool system called Merit of Pools. 162 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,000 And they basically do renovations on site. 163 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:13,840 They provide a longer warranty than currently renovating 164 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,800 non-factor little out and I pop a little bit more about that. 165 00:13:18,980 --> 00:13:23,960 Merchipose has been in business for six years and have installations in the 166 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,940 Senate Township, Texas, and worldwide. 167 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:34,180 Over that time period, Merchipose system has installed 20,000 168 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,560 from Merchipose facilities in HJU countries. 169 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,640 The advantage is to use an emergency system, 170 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 it allows for the existing food to be renovated. 171 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:56,120 If you're renovating the existing food, it does not require specialized maintenance. 172 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:08,580 Markter provides a standard 25 year warranty on the struck and 10 year warranty on all of the PVC components. 173 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:16,440 You can get an additional warranty here if you choose and I'll talk just a little briefly about that. 174 00:14:17,060 --> 00:14:22,650 Depending on what you're going to ask me for the cost. 175 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:28,290 We don't know exactly what to call it, but in order for them to establish a cost for the additional warranty, 176 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:32,910 they have to know which pool system you're taking. 177 00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:44,490 The other requirement to ensure that the warranty period that the pool is well maintained, 178 00:14:45,250 --> 00:14:49,070 you have to enter a maintenance agreement with them. 179 00:14:49,070 --> 00:14:56,090 So when a maintenance agreement, they can actually extend the warranty 10, 15 years. 180 00:14:56,290 --> 00:14:57,310 But you have to enter one. 181 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,970 I don't know what those numbers are, you know something. 182 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:10,230 We'll come back because you need to select a full type first. There is no need for red flashing or red 183 00:15:10,230 --> 00:15:13,870 panning or red dialing the full, once it's installed. 184 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,300 The market full retains its structural integrity, 185 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:29,560 which is real good for us, because we're in plays and a lot of movement in our soul. So if 186 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,740 stand those tight conditions. 187 00:15:34,430 --> 00:15:39,670 It can be built in a very short time frame. You don't have 188 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:47,890 all of the heavy equipment that's required because they basically build a pool inside the 189 00:15:47,890 --> 00:15:56,270 pool. So you use the existing structure if you will. So that saves on the time. They can do it in about 190 00:15:56,270 --> 00:15:59,290 third-time traditional food. 191 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,880 The other thing is with a market pool, 192 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,480 if you remember the configuration of the pools, 193 00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:14,220 they can shake their configuration 194 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:17,460 to fit any configuration that you want. 195 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,620 And so it has a lot of flexibility 196 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:22,460 in how they can assemble. 197 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Dusty, can you go to the video just real quick? 198 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:34,820 I have a clip that's less than two minutes and just kind of watch the 199 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:37,440 construction of the pool. 200 00:16:42,390 --> 00:16:44,510 This is in time for the pool. 201 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,840 There's no audio we get. You can't even hear us. 202 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:01,490 If you go back 203 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:09,110 to the top, those channels 204 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:16,870 are in the great sick. You're around that. That's where all of your plumbing would go, so it would 205 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:24,850 Underneath the easy, easy accessible if you had to do do maintenance as well, so it's smaller than the footprint of the actual pool 206 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:31,070 It's a little bit smaller, but I mean that that's how you you're able to put in all of this 207 00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:34,910 discreet fancy sense of stuff. Right. Okay, it does 208 00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:42,410 and they're applying the 209 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:45,550 bottom of the pool 210 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:50,680 the towns on the sides 211 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,800 filling the pool a 212 00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:12,520 couple of little bit about the 213 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:18,080 development of construction costs. We actually work with the 214 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,920 market, the manufacturer of the materials, and one of their 215 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,520 partner contractors, which is Texas Aquatic Instruction, 216 00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:29,700 KAC. 217 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:38,060 We developed some options for innovation using that 218 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:54,320 The scope of the project was to have, you have two tools, one of the tools would be a laptop, if you will, which would be approximately 2400 square feet of tools. 219 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,900 What a minimum debt of three and a half feet to five feet feet. 220 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:10,960 A waiting pool, which would be two feet deep, and about 1800 square feet of pool. 221 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:24,640 We would install the pool treatment systems. We had talked about before. We need to replace the pool treatment system. 222 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:33,040 We remove all of the food that and make the facility ADA compliant. 223 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:40,590 That includes the parking out front and the existing parking out front. 224 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:43,010 Make sure we have ADA compliant there. 225 00:20:43,230 --> 00:20:45,070 The sidewalk out front. 226 00:20:47,170 --> 00:20:51,890 Any adjustment or adaptation in the restroom area. 227 00:20:51,890 --> 00:21:00,130 area, and then we replace the deck. The deck has to be replaced, but it needs to be replaced 228 00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:05,910 in the eight components as well. So if you move to the existing pool, you have some step-ups and 229 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:14,450 things in the redesign, it would allow accidents for someone who is disabled to also put 230 00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:21,890 to that lower area. So we would make sure that that's as well. 231 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:29,910 Options that are going to talk about real quickly is only with the construction as described. 232 00:21:30,170 --> 00:21:32,450 I'll talk about parking a little bit of an average. 233 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:53,450 Often one would be a process where we go to a design deal process that's where the city would select a construction farm, to design, to full, and also to construct a full. 234 00:21:53,450 --> 00:22:11,750 One of the advantages of doing it that way, as the contractors developing to design, the city gets a chance to give a lot of input on quality, costs, and tons. 235 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:17,550 You kind of, when you hire a design builder, they work with you on the design. 236 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:23,490 They can do things that if you went to a traditional design, be it bill. 237 00:22:24,330 --> 00:22:26,490 You have to do those two change orders. 238 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:33,050 You kind of getting all of that work out in upfront, in the process of typically school districts. 239 00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:38,530 That's the way that they do a lot of their work is designed, billed, or another process 240 00:22:38,530 --> 00:22:48,430 all construction management risk. The other option is murder is a 241 00:22:48,430 --> 00:22:54,990 Bible where text is a Bible where it's supplied. That means that they're 242 00:22:54,990 --> 00:23:01,910 on the state's pyramid system, which means they provided cost already. 243 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:06,770 They've already competed for it. You don't have to bet if you want to 244 00:23:06,770 --> 00:23:13,830 So the city has an option, they get by the equipment at a very reduced cost. 245 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,160 Are you contractor to do the install and that's something that they've taken down before? 246 00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:26,840 So that process would have free purchase and contractor install. 247 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,720 Let me ask you a question. 248 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:43,820 There's like $100,000 difference between us doing something for the pool or having them do 249 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:45,200 everything for the pool. 250 00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:46,360 Is that what you're saying? 251 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:49,640 No, I think I'll try to cover that in the next slide. 252 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:50,940 On the left side. 253 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:51,960 On the cause. 254 00:23:52,660 --> 00:24:06,920 Again, the items on the left column, you have the items, and then we have option one and option two. 255 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,280 If we just looked at that, I 256 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:14,600 don't know how to turn it up. 257 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:20,260 If you look at the left pool, the option one. 258 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:30,080 So the laptop on an option 1, which is a design field, the contractor body equipment, then 259 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:42,140 they do the construction, they do all the fancy finishes to the work, it is $821,000. 260 00:24:42,140 --> 00:24:54,880 If you went with option 2, where you'd pre-purchase, you looked at the savings of almost $100,000 261 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 because against, there's no morph up, you're running to right, you're running to right, you're running to right. 262 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:08,460 I already bought it in a discount price. So, that's where you get a saving by going to, and that's just on the left 263 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:17,160 pool. You look at again, if you, the waiting pool, the equipment costs for design and 264 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:28,500 to $35,000. If you did the install, the equipment costs would only be approximately $169,000 265 00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:37,420 to do. So that's where you kind of pick up the savings using those options. You still would 266 00:25:37,420 --> 00:25:51,860 have to do all of the ADA and concrete decking that I discussed. That's $230,000. Under the 267 00:25:51,860 --> 00:26:00,440 design and veil, you're going to have an engineering cause. It's a higher cause. 103 268 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,920 to the cost of $4,000. 269 00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:08,780 And the contingency, because it costs a little bit higher for design 270 00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:09,300 bills. 271 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:15,200 So the total of option 1 is 1.83, maybe. 272 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:24,560 Option 2 is 1.75, 1.75, million dollars. 273 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Let me just ask you a quick question. 274 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:36,800 design bill in my experience has always been so much faster and flawless what's your opinion on that? 275 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:44,100 I've done it either way and I think this project is quite a well-suited. 276 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:50,740 I've been in my experience with roadways going to design bill. I've not been pleased. 277 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:51,240 Right. 278 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:52,040 I'm sorry. 279 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,760 More decisions. 280 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:53,300 Please. 281 00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:53,860 Not been pleased. 282 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,880 I'm not a roadway. 283 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,700 The design builds that I live through were the new courthouse, the new or new courthouse, 284 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:04,580 the big buildings. 285 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,960 And design builds always was a hundred times better, because you didn't have the hiccups. 286 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,060 You had a better timeline, things happened faster. 287 00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:19,760 You had, I think, in every situation we always had more accountability. 288 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:29,000 So I understand there's $100,000 less than $100,000 savings, but in your opinion, is it worth 289 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,720 that with the benefits of design built? 290 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:42,320 Well, I think that design will lend its sound to an opportunity to cut the cost if you're 291 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:49,480 working with the contractor at the front, as they develop plans, you get an opportunity to 292 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:57,560 come in and discuss those, discuss what those calls for, so when you get into construction, 293 00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:06,260 and there's an issue, well, I didn't see that, I missed that, well, you were to do that, 294 00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:11,940 you had to design it in the contractor in the same room, so that's something they should 295 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:19,860 So, you kind of get away from those, kind of on roadway, utility project is so straightforward. 296 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:28,520 As you can see it, but when you're doing buildings and facilities, there are a lot of things that come up that make a difference. 297 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:32,940 You get an opportunity to choose the product you want. 298 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,980 You know, we give an estimate on the treating system. 299 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,380 We can go to the contractor and say, you have $200,000 for the treatment system. 300 00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:50,740 Is there one that's compatible that we don't have to use that system? 301 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,400 You kind of confuse that, and maybe they find a system that's $50,000 cheaper. 302 00:28:56,180 --> 00:29:01,620 Let me ask you a question based on what Jones said in my views, which are, why should we 303 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:02,380 have to do anything? 304 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,280 We're going to get paid. 305 00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:04,880 Let somebody else do it. 306 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,700 Her question was, which do you recommend? 307 00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:14,540 Not that all is which do you recommend I think he said he likes design build and so do I yeah 308 00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:21,360 Well, so do I but he likes does not say I recommend do you recommend design build sure okay fine moving on 309 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:27,260 Now sure we got the cost 310 00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:29,340 Now 311 00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:34,740 Since you're going to look like you're going to go outside the polarity just real quick question 312 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:43,460 And this, what does this proposal do to the current, what do we call the building? 313 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,600 So changing room, changing room, changing room, changing room, changing room, office area. 314 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,820 You mentioned some ADA things, does it do anything else in that building? 315 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,460 This is just a pool. 316 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:54,020 We got it. 317 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:55,080 Well, you did. 318 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,320 But I think you did say the restroom, we can be the restroom, and maybe some showers 319 00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,860 there's ADA. 320 00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:02,840 But other than that, it doesn't do anything to that structure. 321 00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:10,520 If I remember correctly, the rest of the nation is in the same building, so would they not have to renovate that building? 322 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:17,660 I mean, it's down the road, and I understand it's a lot of money, and it's not going to be far down the road. 323 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,800 But I think, and I correct me if I'm wrong, we have to get the bathrooms in the showers, 88 compliant. 324 00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:26,340 We don't have to get the rest of the stuff, 88 compliant. 325 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:32,000 Yeah, just what I'm saying right now, if we're going to ask for 1.8 and now we're going up to 326 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,960 2.5 with parking, we might as well just ask for further money down in the road, it's going 327 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,320 to be required to ask what I'm saying is, why short change yourself? 328 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:46,180 No, I mean, obviously when when and if we ever get to the place where that's going to happen, 329 00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:50,740 we're going to figure out everything we need and try to get it all or try to figure a way to 330 00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:54,900 finance it without floating a bond. I mean, there's all kinds of options that we can look at 331 00:30:55,700 --> 00:31:00,900 Once we get to the end of the road, this is just, we're in the middle of the road right now. 332 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:01,920 I thought we were here. 333 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,940 Yellow lines in armadillos, middle of the road. 334 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,820 Right, I thought we were here to get a recommendation and moving forward on something. 335 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Well, I mean, we're, this is not something, I mean, your dog park, we can do that. That's $80,000. 336 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,720 This is two and a half mill. We're not going to do that tonight. 337 00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:23,160 I'm sorry, the dog park is funded. 338 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Yeah, this is so nice. 339 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,860 I understand that. 340 00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:26,240 Not what I mean. 341 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:27,160 Not funded. 342 00:31:27,780 --> 00:31:28,620 And we're not being approved. 343 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:30,960 One episode of the other by now. 344 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,660 We're just getting some ideas. 345 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:34,720 This is we don't have this. 346 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,860 We may have a way to come up with this kind of money. 347 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:39,820 There are certain options that we can talk about. 348 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,660 And floating a bond is one of them. 349 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:43,440 But there are others. 350 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080 But we need to not go off half-cock. 351 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:54,500 I think what we'll find, we're not making any decisions in a presentation, is that the council 352 00:31:54,500 --> 00:32:01,480 could just say the sense of the council is we want to go start going that direction, and 353 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,260 then as John said, there's a whole lot more work that has to do with it. 354 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:11,000 And I agree, we just start leaving somewhere for the council, the council can indeed 355 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:18,800 lean somewhere, not now. Later on, we can present, we're presenting now, we can lean later. 356 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:25,160 So what you're saying is right now, we can't lean, we can't, you can't, at this point in the 357 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,540 meeting, because we're doing a presentation. Okay. You can lean later on. 358 00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:35,760 This is having spoken, so we can't do anything. You said the treatment system is included, so when 359 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,960 says Merthak Quintent, it is the treatment, the water treatment. 360 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,940 Yes, I think if it felt so precious, the packaging, it did 361 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:48,840 show some of the Merthak treatment system, so it's included in the cost. 362 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,760 Does it include removing the baby cool? 363 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Does it remove the eye? 364 00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:56,120 I don't think we're supposed to call it that Cindy. 365 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,560 No, it's not politically correct. 366 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,950 It rid of the smaller, we didn't. 367 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:12,930 we didn't include it in the cost. I think it was a desire not to utilize 368 00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:19,750 our safety issues. No, I am just getting rid of it. What did it happen? And I 369 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:25,010 haven't talked to Mr. Ciel about it or the part-sleeful operation. But that's a 370 00:33:25,010 --> 00:33:31,370 nice plan. If the public works want to invert that to a planer for a person, 371 00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:51,610 It's going to be a slight, okay, let me, let me, okay, go ahead, I'm sorry, just kind of 372 00:33:51,610 --> 00:34:00,010 some, someone, in the previous, on-site, who, construction? 373 00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:01,350 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 374 00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:13,490 including parking, it was 2.5 million dollars. If we added that $400,000 into the parking 375 00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:24,170 on an option one, the design bill, it brings that to about 2.325 million. If we added to 376 00:34:24,170 --> 00:34:34,450 option 2, it rains the food costs at $2.17 to make it dollars. 377 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:44,570 And I just want to add on the parking, because Council has had discussions on the parking and 378 00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:58,590 $400,000 and it involves landings of the street and taking part of the city own right away out in the 379 00:34:58,590 --> 00:34:59,970 to the city but 380 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:09,690 There may be issues or concerns with that. And it is instruction. Is that the city still has the option of allowing 381 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:19,730 own street parking in the area? That's where people would not be taken. It will be a very narrow parking in the street in those areas 382 00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:31,270 about 32 feet. So we have the travel lines. We could make them about 11 feet. It would be very 383 00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:39,090 narrow, but it would be for missable. Are you talking about, you're talking about this 384 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:44,410 distance without utilizing, we're talking about not spending a half a mill to fix parking 385 00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:49,710 in the beginning and then maybe in the next budget year we can look at parking if we need 386 00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:59,750 And so we would do some spriping and we'd do some sonnage, but we could monitor and 387 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:07,050 see if it becomes too traffic congested or whatever, and then program that into later 388 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:07,770 budgets. 389 00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:08,550 Right. 390 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:09,510 I like that. 391 00:36:09,590 --> 00:36:14,110 How many handicap parking slots do we need? 392 00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:15,750 It would be great. 393 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:16,590 None of them. 394 00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:16,750 None of them. 395 00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:19,210 So there's two there now. 396 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:21,530 So we just need to read one. 397 00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:25,970 We need to reconfigure that layout there. 398 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:27,250 And the parking there is. 399 00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,890 So but in just one more thing I'm parking. 400 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:34,850 So in the past I was under the impression that we had to have a certain number based on the. 401 00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:35,730 It was 25. 402 00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:38,770 Where did you get that? 403 00:36:38,770 --> 00:36:42,890 It was from the code and just treating as a part of the city code. 404 00:36:49,610 --> 00:37:12,290 It's not in chapter 113 because parking has its own code that's under safety, so it's in the parking code. 405 00:37:12,290 --> 00:37:14,590 So what section are there? 406 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,340 In this scenario where you're talking about not taking any of the 407 00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:33,220 easements of and using the street that that allows for enough space for emergency vehicles all right. 408 00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:35,000 If it would. 409 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600 And just you don't know if you call it a location. 410 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,320 Google it. 411 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:44,400 But it's going to be dicey having to wait a two-way street there. 412 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,880 There he goes. 413 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,940 We don't want him out for parking on one side. 414 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,320 Not both sides. 415 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,300 If you don't want to be on one side to carry a traffic because you only have about 32 416 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:55,100 feet. 417 00:37:55,620 --> 00:38:01,300 That's exactly what I'm saying is there's going to be very dicey to have two way traffic 418 00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:04,080 after you take out that curve parking. 419 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,220 After you take out that part of the street. 420 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,620 Can we give him a coupon if they're carpool? 421 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:18,860 All right, we can make it one way, how's that? 422 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:25,620 Anyway, if you look here at the street, you see when that one car is parked there? 423 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:32,760 Okay, that pretty well makes it a very tight two-way street if those cars are parked there. 424 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,620 We do some creativity there because you're backing out. 425 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:48,400 Where the parking is facing the pool, we would not allow parking objects at that, because 426 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,120 people are walking. 427 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:59,260 But when you go south, there could be parking down, north of the intersection, or the intersection 428 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:02,980 there, the south, there could be parking all along there. 429 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,780 Are you talking, wait, wait, wait, wait, are you talking about Zephyr Drive? 430 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:09,320 No, we're doing wind songs. 431 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:16,020 Okay, so in front of the church, you're talking about going with down to the next 432 00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:17,140 street. 433 00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:24,620 Oh, so I see, so you have parking along the right side there, or hardly, either way, 434 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:26,020 but probably the right side. 435 00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:31,920 And then you get to a point where you want to leave enough room for the residents on the 436 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:39,440 owner so that they do have extra people we kind of restrict parking there. So you have 437 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,760 parking all up and down the side of the street. Sometimes it could be on the lip, sometimes 438 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,360 on the right. And I'll give us additional parking. 439 00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:52,480 Okay, go back up to where the church is. All right, now go keep going farther down. 440 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040 Right there. There you go. All right. No, little far. No stop. 441 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,980 Okay, what did you say about you were 442 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,580 Would you restrict the vehicles parking in front of the pool backing up? 443 00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:10,700 Yeah, you just, you're worried about interactions are accidents. 444 00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:21,720 Of course I am. Between people walking, backing out from the current parking onto cars that may be parked across the street. 445 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:25,160 So we can kind of limit those and then everywhere. 446 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:28,920 Wait, limit what? The once facing in the parking lot or the once on the street? 447 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:46,520 If you look at the entirely into the street, Mr. Young, it's not really in the rub, but I think what we're trying to get to the point is that across the street from the existing parking, there will be no curbside parking. 448 00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:48,040 Because of the rejection. 449 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:48,660 That's correct. 450 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:50,840 That answers that question. 451 00:40:51,580 --> 00:40:53,300 Pull back on. 452 00:40:54,020 --> 00:40:57,760 When you're talking about easement, dusty if you go off the north. 453 00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:06,140 So, on the left where the tennis court is, how much easement does the city have in that green space? 454 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:12,630 You have 32 feet. 455 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:13,930 32 feet. 456 00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:16,630 The pavement is 32 feet. 457 00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:18,610 The width of that corner. 458 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:20,170 The bottom corner. 459 00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:20,870 The bottom corner. 460 00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:21,290 Keep going. 461 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:23,670 That's your right way, right there. 462 00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:25,570 Your index finger is that. 463 00:41:25,870 --> 00:41:26,470 It stops. 464 00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:27,170 Right there. 465 00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:28,850 when they go straight up. 466 00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:30,410 The city doesn't have any issues. 467 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:34,550 Yes, I'm going to say about seven or maybe seven feet, 468 00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:36,870 which is the width of that sidebar. 469 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:40,950 Because on Zephyr, on Zephyr, I understand 470 00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:46,930 that's going to become parking spaces for the town 471 00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:48,270 that would go right there. 472 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:51,610 On Zephyr, I understand that's going to become parking spaces 473 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:55,830 for that since it's for whatever the name of this club 474 00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:56,790 is there, correct? 475 00:41:57,550 --> 00:41:59,830 So you're not going to be able to park on Zepher 476 00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:01,870 on that side of the street because they're 477 00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:03,230 going to be back and up. 478 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:07,470 And then you're saying, now you're going to prohibit 479 00:42:07,470 --> 00:42:12,170 parking on Winsong at the length of where 480 00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:14,950 the pool house is in the church and all that, right? 481 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:20,780 You see right there where it says Winsong, right across 482 00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:24,260 from the tennis courts on the right? 483 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,560 There wouldn't be parking there because there's 484 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,100 traffic that's going to back into the street so long there. That's what I'm asking is we're 485 00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:41,540 going to stay in that one area, that block, that they can not park on that side on the street. 486 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,640 The north side of Winston, the answer is no parking. 487 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,300 Are there current parking restrictions on 488 00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:55,900 I'm just saying there's cars there now. 489 00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:57,480 But we don't even on this picture. 490 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,680 I'm obviously not now. 491 00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,380 There are no, right currently there are no restrictions 492 00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:03,040 to parking on when saw. 493 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,480 But we do pavement morpings. 494 00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:07,520 I don't like it. 495 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,300 You would strike it so that I can get between the lines or whatever. 496 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,640 And because we want to make sure, again, no one backs in. 497 00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:17,920 Right. 498 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,780 But right now there's nothing that stops you from parking behind those cars in that parking line, right? 499 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:27,520 So right now, that's the way that's you can park there. 500 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,920 But nobody in that. 501 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:30,400 That cars are parked right there. 502 00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:32,440 There's a car on this picture parked right there. 503 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,360 So you can park there. 504 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,120 We're just if we do this and we're going to make it safer. 505 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:41,340 It's even going to be better than it is. 506 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,480 We're going to control. 507 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,140 Awesome sauce. 508 00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:46,100 Cool back. 509 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:54,080 So, with that, that concludes my presentation on the available portion of any questions made. 510 00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:02,160 Yes, I have a couple. On your proposal, I was wondering on the back where it says general requirements. 511 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,900 Page, I guess it's six. 512 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:09,870 Are you, would we have the same page here? 513 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:11,870 The TAC, the one that has the TAC. 514 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:13,750 No, I know where you are. 515 00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:20,350 Okay, under line number two, it says this proposal does not in capital letters. 516 00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:27,690 account for Davis-paking prevailing wage rates. So do you have some kind of an ideal? What wage rates are going to be? 517 00:44:28,050 --> 00:44:34,510 Well, you, you, you, you, you don't, you don't have an ordinance that can control your wage rates. 518 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:35,610 Uh, wage rates. 519 00:44:35,950 --> 00:44:41,070 No, what I'm saying is you just told us so far, 2.3 million dollars. 520 00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:46,510 But now we're going to have to add wages to that. So that's why there's no wage rate. 521 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:47,190 Great. 522 00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:54,890 I've quit an operator by, by depending on Senator Antonio, it may $25 an out here. 523 00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:59,910 If you're doing the city of Senator Antonio, you have to pay that wage rate, everything. 524 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:10,700 You do not have a wage rate scale in your ordinances, that says contracts will have a wage rate. They 525 00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:18,980 We've completely forgot the skill field and they're right to be $18 now. 526 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,600 So they're saying we're just going to charge you the rates that we normally win on our 527 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,080 contract. 528 00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:35,860 If we're paying a $18 an hour and now you're telling me I have to pay them $25, that's 529 00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:36,460 with your vehicle. 530 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:40,680 I'm going to increase my cost because you're telling me that I have to pay that 531 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:48,000 weight rate. So that's all they're saying is we're going to pay our employees what we 532 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,380 pay that is not based upon a federal weight rate. So what they're going to pay their 533 00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:57,500 employees has been facted into 2.3 million dollars. 534 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:01,880 It would be their whatever they're 535 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,800 paying their employees are included in that debt. That's what I'm saying. Whatever they're 536 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,420 going to pay their employees that's in the 2.3 million dollars. 537 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,660 Okay, another question I had 538 00:46:13,660 --> 00:46:20,740 came up, if you don't mind, like we've had this presentation like 18 months ago or two years 539 00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:28,280 ago or whatever, and all these numbers were thrown around, so I was just wondering 540 00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:30,440 if, well, Cindy, could you? 541 00:46:34,810 --> 00:46:40,030 When you look at these that were presented before, what's the difference? 542 00:46:40,030 --> 00:46:41,830 How does change? 543 00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:43,690 What do you think? 544 00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:47,000 Is there a difference between? 545 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,940 Where to go? 546 00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:48,800 Was it mine? 547 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,620 I think I said that before. 548 00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:57,020 Well, Mark the thing we didn't have any information on that. 549 00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:59,820 That's like all brand new to us, not brand new. 550 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,280 Right. 551 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,600 And the other thing is you had to take the old fool out. 552 00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:09,020 Demolition of the old fool. 553 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,940 To build a new fool. 554 00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:14,980 OK, when we started this, we had three options. 555 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,280 Rebuild the Opule, replace the Opule with this liner thing, 556 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:22,020 or build the Aquatic Center. 557 00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:24,480 So we've had three numbers all the way to... 558 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,940 So this liner thing was never on the table. 559 00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:30,840 We just learned about this Martha thing in the last... 560 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,020 I'd beg you for this is our presentation on Martha. 561 00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:36,240 No, it's Martha, right. 562 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,420 But we were told we had a presentation. 563 00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:45,420 and how a company would come in, dig all the stuff out of the rule and remove them. 564 00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:47,980 They're not removing the food with this. 565 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,120 No, I understand that. 566 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,420 Thank you. 567 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,280 We have no cost for every commission. 568 00:47:53,280 --> 00:48:04,880 The initial presentation that we provided and I have coffee to those was to just go in, redo the decking, 569 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,200 Reline the pool and that's where the conversation start, 570 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,440 well, what's the water deal? 571 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,840 You're going to spend over a million dollars 572 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,940 and you don't have a water deal. 573 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:16,640 So that was the initial presentation. 574 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:21,900 I believe back in May of 2001 that we talked about. 575 00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:31,500 And then we had an option to redo the pools on site. 576 00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:35,360 And then we're going to often do a new pool. 577 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,280 Read you the pool means tearing it out and putting it in a new way. 578 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,380 That's correct. Thank you. 579 00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:42,580 What you're doing, I don't think I made it very clear. 580 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,640 You're doing a pool renovation. 581 00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:50,940 It's a new insert, if you will, on the pool, 582 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,280 but that's a renovation on the pool. 583 00:48:54,220 --> 00:48:55,720 No, I understand. I agree. I understand. 584 00:48:55,720 --> 00:49:06,360 I just said the first contact we had from the person from any ISD was after it was already on the May ballot, the second time. 585 00:49:06,820 --> 00:49:09,160 So this is the first time we've gotten a presentation. 586 00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:15,060 And I mean, I think anybody can do their own due diligence and look this up. 587 00:49:15,380 --> 00:49:18,480 I mean, this is how the UT pool was done. 588 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:24,080 I mean, there's like some huge fools in the great state of Texas and throughout the world that 589 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,640 have used these systems that, I mean, I don't, I don't know when they did the UT pool, but 590 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:34,680 it's been quite a while and it's, they're still raving about how wonderful it is. 591 00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:40,160 Now, they claim that I haven't found anything to say to different, but they've never replaced 592 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,100 one of them. 593 00:49:41,660 --> 00:49:41,700 Yeah. 594 00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:43,200 I read that too. 595 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:43,720 Pretty amazing. 596 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:49,820 And so, but I didn't see any one on trying to Google searches and whatever, I didn't see that either. 597 00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:52,720 But you put the Google's open back up. 598 00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:59,540 All right, so when we start talking about the bill, there's two polls that you have in this proposal. 599 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:29,140 So, if we were to ask the Parks and Recs to look at this, there could be some options that could potentially either could potentially, let's just say for instance, the waiting pool was smaller, or there I say a slash pad. 600 00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:36,720 How would that happen that they could go back and look and say, okay, this is the, this is a better 601 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:47,300 Because this might not be the best configuration for for us, they could, again, I think I made in presentation is they can configure pool on the fifth and fifth and fifth 602 00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:58,340 any songs that get or songs that you said they could, they could put a splash pad, let's just say they cut half of this waiting thing 603 00:50:58,340 --> 00:51:06,680 they could actually put a small waiting pool and a splash bit in the current footprint of the waiting 604 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,400 doesn't pass okay alright so and the other thing and and I said I wasn't going to ask this 605 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,040 but now we've gone down that road because of what you explained they could do one of those 606 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,940 entry like you know what the zero entry so we could make this just so handicap accessible and friendly and 607 00:51:24,940 --> 00:51:33,320 One of the things, and again, we set the left pool is because in our conversation, Council 608 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:39,840 I mentioned the use of the pool by Northeast, and swim, so that's why I speak. 609 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:49,600 And going down that road, because of that, and because of a lot of other things, there 610 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:58,260 the ability to go to other funding sources and say hey we help us out. So this is why I have said 611 00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:03,100 we don't necessarily have to float a bond. We may not, we may be able to float a bond for part of it. 612 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:08,580 We may not have to float a bond at all if we can find some stakeholders willing to come to the table. 613 00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:15,520 I mean when they were closing the pool at the Y, I'm pretty sure that the county commissioners, 614 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,880 Especially the one that represents us came forward and made an offer a huge offer to help keep that open. 615 00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:31,320 So I think that in this particular situation where we have probably the only pool that allows 616 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:39,880 the adjoining neighborhoods to use us and we have for years that it makes sense to go to commissioners 617 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,120 and other entities and say we would like your assistance in paying for this. 618 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:51,420 Okay, I'm not I'm not talking about paying for it. You just miss I like talking about paying for it because you know that's kind of my thing 619 00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:52,880 I can't talk about that now anyway 620 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,260 You said is zero entry entry are you talking about it on the the waiting pool? 621 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:57,720 Yeah 622 00:52:58,340 --> 00:53:03,740 Because of what they can do with this system we would actually be able to make this 623 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:13,820 The as handicapped it accessible as as we could with the new build because they can do all that they can do their magic and make that happen 624 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,120 Okay, Mr. Young, do the magic and make that happen. 625 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:20,900 Well, we can't say that now, but. 626 00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:23,520 All right, any more questions for Mr. Young on the presentation? 627 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,460 Thank you, Mr. Young. Thank you, sir. 628 00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:31,600 Thank you, sir. 629 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,600 Thank you, Councilor Steven, update on trusted driver on the ongoing program. 630 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:48,590 Councilman, thanks for having me. 631 00:53:49,290 --> 00:53:55,510 We're just wanted to catch you guys up on where we're at and give you a snapshot of what trusted drivers do in the wing crest. 632 00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:59,910 So, we launched January 15th of 2022. 633 00:54:00,490 --> 00:54:04,390 Those are first community event where we provided a medication literature. 634 00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:07,590 You know, I flew this stuff for the purpose of the Civic Center. 635 00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:13,570 And had the opportunity for motorists and citizens to actually sign up for the platform. 636 00:54:13,810 --> 00:54:16,090 We just had 160 members sign up. 637 00:54:16,570 --> 00:54:17,870 So, we had the database going. 638 00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:22,610 We wanted to proceed with the platform and process. 639 00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:27,570 However, chief goals indicated that we had to kind of hold back because of something 640 00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:28,970 went on with the court. 641 00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:32,030 I was not privy to the specifics of what that was. 642 00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:39,450 We did visit with the court one time to learn the process and modernize it and make it a 643 00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:41,770 more efficient paperless court who is what they wanted. 644 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:47,090 However, we have not been able to get back their chief goals kind of indicated that he 645 00:54:47,090 --> 00:54:48,710 would let me know when that would be possible. 646 00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:53,050 So I did reach out to multiple times throughout the year. 647 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:57,090 I did not hear back from those adults in and then I didn't know he had retired. 648 00:54:57,790 --> 00:54:59,810 So, or move on, it's just what I guess I learned. 649 00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:15,780 So, we were unaware of that. I did finally communicate with Captain Cole and Lieutenant Krum on where we were at and if we could update the officers, the current lawster, because I believe it had changed, and some officers were not aware of the platform or the program. 650 00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:17,600 I think it's acting chief Cole. 651 00:55:19,060 --> 00:55:29,040 He's been extremely cooperative. We met with him Thursday and caught him up on where we are with a platform and what it can do for the traffic enforcement. 652 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,380 and also told them if the court was open to us because back and then we would definitely 653 00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:36,040 do that and help them. 654 00:55:36,860 --> 00:55:38,260 We're still 655 00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:46,270 going to be involved in the community, we did reach out multiple times to try 656 00:55:46,270 --> 00:55:51,850 to establish some events, we wanted to do a health fair for the citizens, we did not receive 657 00:55:51,850 --> 00:55:57,930 any work back on when we could do that, but not a lot of touch with Captain Cole, I think 658 00:55:57,930 --> 00:55:59,010 we can get that done. 659 00:56:00,330 --> 00:56:05,950 I provided some documentation to determine a chroma material if you guys got it on what we've 660 00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:06,230 expanded. 661 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:10,730 What we've implemented and installed here, we're interested to find it at the police 662 00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:11,170 tower. 663 00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:14,890 It was fully loaded with whatever chief was wanted to in the laptop. 664 00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:21,990 We did implement four cameras that are fixed in certain locations on the city. 665 00:56:22,090 --> 00:56:24,730 I believe two are on the mid-cround, crestway and eagle crest. 666 00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:27,950 They have over 5 million reads at this point. 667 00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:33,050 The officers were given a sign on the detectives, so they had pull access to that. 668 00:56:33,710 --> 00:56:40,730 We also outfitted the table with a mobile license paper to Camletoo and are scouting two 669 00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:44,370 more locations for the next six cameras that, like I said, we were kind of put on hold 670 00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:45,170 for that. 671 00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:49,510 But we do have them and we're ready to move forward and, like I said, I have community 672 00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:51,050 located with Captain Cole. 673 00:56:51,470 --> 00:56:55,950 At this point, there has been no cause to a city of Winchrist, like we initially said, 674 00:56:56,070 --> 00:56:57,150 and there will not be. 675 00:56:57,150 --> 00:57:05,330 I did provide some projections on what we would charge if those three years expired and then if you 676 00:57:05,330 --> 00:57:08,630 want to continue to use our service for a ticketing platform, what that would be. 677 00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:16,750 I did provide also the current invoice that I guess was secured by Albaloo back in 2018 on 678 00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:21,550 what that kind of system calls that you're currently using and how large is different and not only 679 00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:24,050 all savings, but I've also saved you. 680 00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:26,450 And Tushard Aber had moved on. 681 00:57:26,670 --> 00:57:31,210 We have secured agreements, mainly in the Rio Grande Valley. 682 00:57:31,210 --> 00:57:34,170 We have Cameron County, Web County, Valverde County. 683 00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:37,370 We're doing a project with the city of McAllen and McAllen 684 00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:39,250 Police Department on modernizing their court 685 00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:40,990 and making a paper list. 686 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:42,930 We're going to get Travis County aligned here 687 00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:43,950 probably in a few weeks. 688 00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:46,750 And we launched in Nebraska and Michigan also. 689 00:57:46,750 --> 00:57:55,490 So if the court is willing to have us back in, we'll go in there and from what we can do for them. 690 00:57:56,030 --> 00:58:07,150 And we are communicating with Captain Cole on how our system works and letting their officers at least issue warnings to our system and see how different it is. 691 00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:15,430 So I would suggest that you set up a meeting with the court staff and chief Cole to help you out there. 692 00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:22,530 I think that we've got it, we've got a good group of people there, Claudia's always willing 693 00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:31,310 to listen to everybody's ideas and I think if we're going to move in the direction of modernizing 694 00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:37,650 and getting out of paper and to a more automated system, that is certainly what we would like 695 00:58:37,650 --> 00:58:41,770 to do in the future as far as I'm concerned because we don't need to get in more trees. 696 00:58:41,770 --> 00:58:44,750 How many folks do we have signed up? 697 00:58:45,110 --> 00:58:48,730 We had 160 initially, and that's all we have right now for waitress. 698 00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:50,950 Of those 160 how many contacts? 699 00:58:52,110 --> 00:58:54,470 I don't know, I'd have to look. I can get to those numbers. 700 00:58:55,290 --> 00:59:00,670 We did stop because we've all set to not continue with the excitation process. 701 00:59:00,850 --> 00:59:03,490 You wanted to change it to just warnings and feedback. 702 00:59:04,170 --> 00:59:07,150 So we had to kind of pivot and change it for a little bit. 703 00:59:07,150 --> 00:59:13,250 But I think some numbers on who we contact, not who but how many we can't give up the names here. 704 00:59:13,810 --> 00:59:16,670 So Chief Folks want to do what now? This is interesting. 705 00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:21,070 He indicated that they were working some issues out with the court. 706 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,170 So he did not want to proceed with the actual citation process. 707 00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:28,870 He just wanted to do warnings and positive feedback messages to our system. 708 00:59:30,370 --> 00:59:35,010 So if one of those 160 was observed with a traffic violation, 709 00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:38,830 Then you're going to call them up and get them a warning and you're going to stop and get them a warning. 710 00:59:39,010 --> 00:59:39,790 What's that I don't understand? 711 00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:40,910 You could either. 712 00:59:41,210 --> 00:59:45,010 If they wanted to use a traditional method and pull them over, the ulcer could do that. 713 00:59:45,110 --> 00:59:50,170 And continue with a citation process using whatever ticketing process that exists now, 714 00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:51,870 which I think is believed with tighter technologies. 715 00:59:52,550 --> 00:59:56,290 Or if they were a member they could issue a warning or a positive feedback through our system. 716 00:59:57,490 --> 00:59:58,970 We move kind of adversely a little bit. 717 00:59:59,090 --> 00:59:59,970 We can issue a site of... 718 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,980 What I get a citation to now, if they pull a member over or anybody over, doesn't have to be a member, they could still issue a citation. 719 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,740 The traditional way with our platform faster, more efficient and paperless. That's where we're at. 720 01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:21,860 Of the 160, are you able to identify which ones signed up because of medical concerns? 721 01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:23,700 No, we cannot. 722 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,820 We do not have access to look at who's or what they put in there. 723 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:35,860 The only way anyone could see that would be operational and that would be an officer on a public roadway if you ran the last place. 724 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,800 And if somebody tried to look at it, we could do an audit to find out if anybody tried to put an information on it. 725 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:57,780 Based on the current contract, it says, through your term, what would trusted drivers go be at the end of that term? Obviously to resign and to move forward with another contract. 726 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400 But I would imagine if the contract wouldn't be the same stipulations. 727 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,340 No, there would be different, yes. 728 01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:11,020 There would be a complete use of the system, which includes the traffic force in part for the law enforcement agency, 729 01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:12,880 and the municipal court part, right? 730 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,040 The paperless court system. 731 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,240 We do the project for McCallan is going to involve 732 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,200 the Office for Court administration at the state level 733 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,720 to connect them without having to send paper 734 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,120 and all that. 735 01:01:23,260 --> 01:01:24,340 So what include all that? 736 01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:25,320 It would be a good idea. 737 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,440 You've got a sign-off from OCA. 738 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,700 We're already with Megan. 739 01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:32,800 Who's now the director over there. 740 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,840 And she just has had choose who's within our favor. 741 01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:38,420 Are there any of these communities 742 01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:40,620 that you didn't start with this three-year term 743 01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:44,720 that you meetly flip to switch and you're running the whole business. 744 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,060 They have no, but three years. 745 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,120 They don't have a three-year pre-term, so I'm saying. 746 01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:51,960 Which locations have that? 747 01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:54,180 None of the locations you've got. 748 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,000 Oh, just us. 749 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:56,040 We're the baby test. 750 01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:57,760 That's what we got all the bells and whistles. 751 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,480 Yeah, I can't ask. 752 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,400 No, I mean, like I said, the city's been cooperative. 753 01:02:01,940 --> 01:02:05,220 I know that, like I said, I wasn't privy through any details about the court, but 754 01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:10,500 we always express a cheap old city manager that we work with 755 01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:13,800 in any way they wanted, if they needed us to do something, we would try our best to make sure 756 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:13,960 it happen. 757 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:21,500 I think I'll talk to Chief Cole and maybe Ryan's office and figure out where we can go with 758 01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:21,680 that. 759 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,940 I know that initially there were some sticking points with OCA, there were some sticking points 760 01:02:26,940 --> 01:02:33,400 with DPS and our city attorney had some questions about that and if you've overcome those, 761 01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:37,180 we certainly want to find out and use it as much as we can. 762 01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:45,340 We'd love to revisit the Corgan and to be perfectly honest, we pressed the citizens and I don't 763 01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:49,500 only have the council and everybody that said helped us, kind of got us there, right? 764 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:57,680 So we've met with the director of DPS and we've met with those seeing all those people and it was because we did start here, so it was a great opportunity for us. 765 01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:04,220 We said there's a list somewhere of those communities that you're doing the whole program. 766 01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:07,440 sir. Okay. And do we have that somewhere? 767 01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:09,460 No, I can get it to you. Okay. 768 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,140 All right. So our website will have to list it. 769 01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:11,680 Okay. Okay. 770 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,140 I was on there. And I'm voting a few more here in the back. 771 01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:19,340 Because I will tell you just on the on the surface, when I remember, 772 01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:20,840 we started. 773 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,520 It was only for feedback and in warnings. 774 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,380 And I mean, that's, and maybe I misunderstood. 775 01:03:29,740 --> 01:03:31,720 And I'm not saying that didn't have the capability. 776 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:37,460 one of the saying is what I remember when we first got it was this is initially and I know 777 01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:43,260 that you wanted to move to someplace else this is for warnings and feedback and then the agreement 778 01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:49,720 has stated for actual citations and I know what we're going to be in the cost to write okay all right 779 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,480 let's try and understand the answer. I did all the answers to do that actually like we were 780 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,160 whatever he wanted to do okay. 781 01:03:59,530 --> 01:04:04,170 Well I say hook up with Rafael he can he can get you with Ryan and let's 782 01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:11,370 if we can go further that would be a good thing to look at. 783 01:04:11,370 --> 01:04:13,090 You got it. 784 01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:14,350 Anything else? 785 01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:16,070 Just the information on the context. 786 01:04:17,710 --> 01:04:18,090 Thank you. 787 01:04:18,110 --> 01:04:18,450 Thank you. 788 01:04:19,950 --> 01:04:20,910 All right. 789 01:04:20,930 --> 01:04:22,910 City Council received presentation from Armstrong, 790 01:04:23,590 --> 01:04:29,790 and Associate PC on fiscal year 2021, 2022, financial audit. 791 01:04:31,310 --> 01:04:31,730 Thank you, Mayor. 792 01:04:32,370 --> 01:04:33,230 Speaking of killing trees, 793 01:04:33,230 --> 01:04:34,350 I did murder a few. 794 01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:34,750 You did. 795 01:04:35,730 --> 01:04:36,050 You did. 796 01:04:36,130 --> 01:04:36,570 You're not my friend. 797 01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:37,410 I'm risky. 798 01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:39,670 Because if you open it. 799 01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:43,890 My goal is to be very brief 50,000 foot view, but if you had a question just for something 800 01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:44,970 at me. 801 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:47,410 My name is Sylvan from our farm on associate. 802 01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:50,730 I know you guys know this, but just for everybody's benefit in the room. 803 01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:54,270 We're the independent cta as you've hired to audit your annual report that you have 804 01:04:54,270 --> 01:04:55,250 in front of you. 805 01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:56,550 We've done our due diligence. 806 01:04:56,690 --> 01:04:57,230 We tested it. 807 01:04:57,230 --> 01:04:59,970 We've issued you a clean opinion on the city's funds that everything. 808 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:28,900 And here's two of the small march in the group. So we need to give it to your bon hulders, your residents if they know it. Somebody else has looked at this and agreed these are good numbers. The only thing that I would caveat there is that we weren't asked to audit the economic development corporation and they're not as far complete. So there's just preliminary numbers for them to hear and so we basically disavow anything because we don't know whether those numbers are right or not. Your staff is a smaller retrievers. They spent your American Rescue Plan money last year. 809 01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:32,500 There was a shortcut to do some compliance testing on that, but they didn't want to take 810 01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:32,800 shortcuts. 811 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,720 So they did the full federal single audit, and we also included that in this audit. 812 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,140 We had no compliance findings on that. 813 01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:46,960 We also, they wanted to go for the government finance officer associations award for your 814 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,020 annual financial report. 815 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,180 So this has been expanded, so there's some extra trees that were killed, and making it 816 01:05:52,180 --> 01:05:52,740 this report. 817 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,120 And our experience, they probably won't give it to you your first year, and then may not 818 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,480 like the EDC, not being audited in their civil seat. 819 01:06:00,740 --> 01:06:03,900 But once they respond, then you'll be able to counter next year 820 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:06,820 and for sure it didn't, if you don't happen to get it this year. 821 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,520 While we're doing our audited, we come across anything 822 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,760 that we think you should be doing differently 823 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,460 or that you're doing inappropriately, 824 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,580 bring it to your attention. 825 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,320 We have nothing like that. 826 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:17,660 There's a letter that accompanies it. 827 01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:19,320 It's kind of tucked in there that goes through 828 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,160 some required communications to you. 829 01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:23,100 There's really nothing a particular note 830 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,300 that I think you should be worried about in that letter. 831 01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:32,370 And I think your staff does a great job of giving you financial information on a regular basis. 832 01:06:32,970 --> 01:06:35,490 So I don't think any of this is going to be a real big surprise to you, 833 01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:40,250 but I would just point out that your general fund was under budget and total for the year. 834 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:43,430 You added $2 million to your general fund balance. 835 01:06:43,610 --> 01:06:47,850 Last year or so you're up to about 7.8 months of 2022 costs, 836 01:06:48,130 --> 01:06:50,570 so that might not go as far if you look at your 2020 free costs. 837 01:06:51,330 --> 01:06:53,790 Your 2019 Street Fund is almost complete. 838 01:06:54,030 --> 01:06:57,070 You have about 445,000 left and they are at the end of the year. 839 01:06:57,450 --> 01:07:01,690 And your garbage fund charges covered your operating costs. 840 01:07:02,410 --> 01:07:02,810 Yeah! 841 01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:04,550 Yeah, you are! 842 01:07:04,650 --> 01:07:05,450 Don't say anything. 843 01:07:05,710 --> 01:07:06,730 Get stopped the back right now. 844 01:07:07,090 --> 01:07:08,330 It wasn't the new city man. 845 01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:10,950 It wasn't a net to cover the administrative transfer. 846 01:07:11,070 --> 01:07:11,790 You make the general fund. 847 01:07:11,950 --> 01:07:12,050 Okay. 848 01:07:12,330 --> 01:07:13,210 So you cover the costs. 849 01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:15,710 So you did deed into your reserves a little bit and the garbage fund. 850 01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:17,930 But not like we used to. 851 01:07:18,430 --> 01:07:19,350 This is my first year of slow-up. 852 01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:23,890 Well, I'm just telling you, not like we used to, and it's just telling you how it's got to be a fact. 853 01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:26,390 I'm not going to tell you what I was going to do. 854 01:07:26,570 --> 01:07:30,350 I just really, on my, I like to be happy to answer any questions or. 855 01:07:30,930 --> 01:07:35,090 Because the bottom of my name is we're doing great. 856 01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:37,070 And thank you very much. 857 01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:40,290 Yeah, that's it. That's good. If that's where you're willing to go. 858 01:07:40,430 --> 01:07:42,530 Well, we're not doing great. 859 01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:42,990 We're doing it. 860 01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:44,270 We're doing it. 861 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:46,390 We're just doing a presentation of questions. 862 01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:51,350 So, I did have a question on the, your intro, you see, you hadn't seen the EDC stuff. 863 01:07:51,470 --> 01:08:01,190 Based on your experience that you're with you and your firm, is it usual to have the city and the EDC go through the same water process by the same auditor? 864 01:08:02,030 --> 01:08:03,030 That's the most common. 865 01:08:03,150 --> 01:08:03,710 Most common. 866 01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:07,670 There's a lot of cost savings to have it done at the same time. 867 01:08:08,650 --> 01:08:11,650 Because you're also right in the payroll and you're collecting the sales tax for them, 868 01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:13,830 which are the two biggest functions of the EDC. 869 01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:18,450 And because we had to look at those anyway because we want to make sure that you're the cost 870 01:08:18,450 --> 01:08:23,750 one back and forth or right, we've already kind of looked at the big chunk of the EDC 871 01:08:23,750 --> 01:08:29,690 so to add that on would be pretty minimal, but that's a complete, you know, your decision 872 01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:30,850 and how you want that. 873 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:33,630 Are there any cons to that scenario that you know of? 874 01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:35,250 Having the auditority both. 875 01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:40,490 Well, we're independent, so we don't really have a dog in the fight, so if there's no reason 876 01:08:40,490 --> 01:08:46,450 We wouldn't want to look at both, I think if I were trying to come up with a reason for why you might separate it as if 877 01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:55,970 For whatever reason there was issues with the EDC not getting full control over the finances if the city was keeping the finances for them 878 01:08:55,970 --> 01:09:00,590 And then the EDC felt like they couldn't do what they wanted to do because the city was blocking them or a city staff 879 01:09:02,350 --> 01:09:07,050 Perhaps but to me it would make more sense to have it together in my opinion 880 01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:07,810 Thank 881 01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:11,320 you 882 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:17,920 on page six, just so I just want to explain to you what it's, oh, oh, we have it. Okay, 883 01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:22,940 page six, paragraph, or bullet number, I guess four, 884 01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:29,680 and I think this is the number 885 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,840 you represented to us earlier, but I want to make sure we're speaking the same language. 886 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,460 You were correct, you were correct, you were correct, you were correct, you were correct. 887 01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:47,960 So I'm a number on number six, mayors, that what you're looking at, or it's page six. 888 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,480 or you're going further into the audit into the letter? 889 01:09:50,900 --> 01:09:52,640 Yeah, it's closer down, we'll further. 890 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:59,970 Okay, so... 891 01:10:01,010 --> 01:10:30,730 For the state general fund report a year and fund balance of 5.3 million. Increase of 2 million, from previous year, the explain what the unassigned fund balance of 5.3 million represents, 63 percent of the total general fund漫atures. The unassigned fund balance represents, 64.1 F, 6.1 F of the expenditures, when the capital outlasts not included. So could you help me understand what those two numbers mean in 892 01:10:30,730 --> 01:10:35,110 But none accounting, there you go, none accounting. 893 01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:38,450 Is that the seven points, is the seven once you mentioned? 894 01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:38,990 Correct. 895 01:10:39,490 --> 01:10:42,190 So the fund balances your reserves or whatever you want to call it, 896 01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:44,290 what's left over for all the prior years. 897 01:10:44,650 --> 01:10:46,730 And the unassigned is the money that doesn't 898 01:10:46,730 --> 01:10:47,830 have any strings on it. 899 01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:49,310 So it's completely free, 900 01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:51,850 put a general fund to spend in whatever lawful purpose you 901 01:10:51,850 --> 01:10:52,690 want to spend it on. 902 01:10:52,930 --> 01:10:53,690 Like a bull. 903 01:10:55,090 --> 01:10:56,530 Well, we're talking about it. 904 01:10:56,710 --> 01:10:58,150 We already funded that. 905 01:10:58,290 --> 01:10:59,010 You don't need to do that. 906 01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:07,050 Okay, but the in theory you could have other money in your journal fund that did have strings on it, and so you wouldn't necessarily count that in that number 907 01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:12,910 But you don't have anything like that in your journal fund. So essentially all the journal fund is unassigned. 908 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:21,690 So I like to say months your previous reports had that percentages. So it works out to me about same. Yeah, 60 or 40 cents like seven and a half seven. 909 01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:25,550 I just want to make sure we're talking about the set. You use bonds. I want to make sure we're done same. 910 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,640 7 months is 60% of the year. 911 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:32,340 I guess. 912 01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:34,200 Just want to make sure we're talking the same language. 913 01:11:34,540 --> 01:11:35,220 Any questions? 914 01:11:37,980 --> 01:11:38,760 Thank you so much. 915 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,060 Excellent job. 916 01:11:40,740 --> 01:11:40,840 Thank you. 917 01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:42,400 All right. 918 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,180 We are critical. 919 01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:43,960 Back. 920 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:44,720 What? 921 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,440 If I may ask for you to just at least go to the item to accept the audit. 922 01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:51,760 That's on your chin back. 923 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,740 The sentence is to be heard. 924 01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:53,180 Can we? 925 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,260 I don't think any evidence. 926 01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:55,360 That's the sentence to be heard. 927 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:55,900 Okay. 928 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:56,780 Got it. 929 01:11:57,620 --> 01:11:58,240 All right. 930 01:11:58,420 --> 01:12:00,820 We're going to go to item number four or citizen to be here. 931 01:12:00,980 --> 01:12:02,620 Citizens may address city council on top. 932 01:12:02,780 --> 01:12:04,620 It's not agenda for not more than three minutes. 933 01:12:05,060 --> 01:12:08,820 Citizens shall the opportunity to address city council during consideration of the 934 01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:10,740 post of the gen item for not more than six minutes. 935 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,660 City officials may make a statement of specific. 936 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,900 Factual information response to an inquiry made by the public. 937 01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:32,230 We're doing it just as far as we allow to do the public hearing before we 938 01:12:32,230 --> 01:12:42,190 like I think what you're getting is, can we, can we, can we, can we do the, you're asking, can we do the acceptance of the audit? 939 01:12:43,130 --> 01:12:46,290 Yeah, we can do that, but you have to be clear as to what I don't want to say. 940 01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:50,170 Okay, right, I'm just, I'm saying we, we can be said as to be heard that we can accept the audit. 941 01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:52,230 Yeah, so many can be put on the current. Okay, perfect. 942 01:12:52,810 --> 01:12:53,410 Okay, great. 943 01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:58,630 All right, item number 11, J, Patricia. 944 01:12:58,630 --> 01:13:04,050 So I have multiple more V. Sorry. 945 01:13:05,530 --> 01:13:06,090 Yeah. 946 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:09,980 It's Maori. 947 01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:11,520 M.O.W. 948 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880 M.O.W. E. R.Y. 949 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,740 President of the Women's Club. 950 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,200 Yes, ma'am. 951 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,920 I will more y'all with backgrounds because there's no time. 952 01:13:22,340 --> 01:13:26,940 But you know, the women's club is always having a wonderful part in light up. 953 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,100 But over time, over time, we've kept on doing our part. 954 01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:40,220 But the city has grown and it's become a wonderful celebration of marriage and defining the city. 955 01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:48,140 So while we're asking now, there's over time the lines of our part have become blurred. 956 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:59,340 We don't, we don't furnish any of the funds, but we still do bring you the judges, bringing the drivers, bringing the navigators, serve, do whatever you ask. 957 01:13:59,340 --> 01:14:04,640 We come through. We're here. It's been working. It's going to continue to work. But we would 958 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:11,140 like to redefine the lines so that presidents to follow clubs to follow will always know 959 01:14:11,140 --> 01:14:18,620 where we stand. We'd like to remember that we choose the theme. We find the judges. We define 960 01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:29,320 the categories. We want to go back to the table and have a collaborative discussion and get 961 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:37,100 city secretary, members time telling her my intent to have a meeting with Mr. Castillo, and 962 01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:44,240 I've also drawn up as a proposal with everything we've done in the past, everything we can 963 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:51,420 do, and hope that we can continue this. We don't see this as an obligation. We see this 964 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:56,940 as an opportunity, opportunity for women to have a place in decisions. 965 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,900 Thank you just for the purpose of. 966 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:12,060 Information, we at the end of the light-up meeting, we have committed to having a conversation with you and the right players in the room to be exactly what you're speaking. 967 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:12,940 So thank you. 968 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,080 I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor. We look forward to your conversation. 969 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:17,140 Thank you. 970 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:17,960 Thank you, Mayor. 971 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,440 Leah Fagan. 972 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,220 Thank you for the purposes of this discussion. 973 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,160 Now, I'm going to go for the city pool. 974 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:42,940 I think it's time before the little baby, the little baby, the little one gets to be a teenager to be built, the swimming bonus to be built. 975 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:52,540 I think it's a shame we're not to have it, and we have the money I think to do it, dogs can swim. 976 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:59,280 I mean, dogs are going to have a day, but our kids don't have it. I have a swimming field pool. 977 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,600 I would love to rent to other people, like they do in a lot of places. 978 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,140 That's an open possibility of increase. 979 01:16:07,380 --> 01:16:08,940 You cannot provide the services. 980 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:11,760 You know, we can be commercialized. 981 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,480 You know, a lot of people are doing that. 982 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,740 They do it all over Houston. 983 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,700 And also, the other day, after church, 984 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,840 I went around that area to visit the three schools. 985 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,880 The place was completely packed by big of all of us. 986 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:34,540 there's no space park. I'm telling you, you just drive around. It's big of a wall 987 01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:39,480 so I'm taking over this place. So I don't really know where our people are going to 988 01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:45,580 part. I thought about some alternatives, perhaps we can see the kindergarten go shape with 989 01:16:46,540 --> 01:16:51,560 the winkry cell mandatory bookbarking and have perhaps some look like a little 990 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:57,560 right up a little trolley to come up from the method of this church and the Mormon church 991 01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:03,880 that they can come up with some flowers to build to drive people to the pool. 992 01:17:04,180 --> 01:17:07,880 I mean, that's not just our church, but this pool really needs to be built. 993 01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:15,480 And I'll also read some like in Australia and in several places. 994 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,000 They have like a beach like environment in that area. 995 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:26,680 Like, let's say some of our overwhelmed people that work, they can go and lay down and 996 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:32,920 those nicely built chairs and so they can just relax while their kids are swimming or 997 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,240 they can have a picnic, just kind of not just without backs, they're like, they're like, 998 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:43,340 they're all talking, but there has to be some environment and landscaping over there also. 999 01:17:43,340 --> 01:18:00,900 And as far as the swimming, I mean, why not close that street and that could be an alternative also, I think people will get upset here, but perhaps they can have more parking in there. 1000 01:18:01,540 --> 01:18:10,080 If not, there's all the possibilities that we can put that pole, perhaps by the Parks and Rec area, which is nice and flat. 1001 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:16,360 And also, by that Brooks Falls, there's a large area of land. 1002 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,280 You don't like to be falling with all this melted thing 1003 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,600 and all that could just build a new one and just go on for there. 1004 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,180 Because I think we are just killing so much time with bears. 1005 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:30,180 I just come every meeting is just so disappointing. 1006 01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:33,080 Like I said, maybe one is going to be a teenager, 1007 01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:34,640 that's not going to be built. 1008 01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:36,260 Which is really embarrassing. 1009 01:18:36,260 --> 01:18:38,980 I've seen a lot of people nowadays, 1010 01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:42,120 a lot of young people with young children in winquests, 1011 01:18:42,620 --> 01:18:46,720 and we're trying to bring the youth that get the winquests. 1012 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:50,420 But this is a necessity, I think, 1013 01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:56,400 is more than the dog park to provide some area of relaxation 1014 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,460 for our children in our new society than winquests. 1015 01:19:00,980 --> 01:19:01,740 Thank you. 1016 01:19:02,340 --> 01:19:02,620 Thank you. 1017 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:04,500 Who's the Hamilton? 1018 01:19:04,500 --> 01:19:05,380 But 1019 01:19:16,220 --> 01:19:19,080 those people we pay, got to do their service. 1020 01:19:19,420 --> 01:19:22,660 Good luck for anybody who has a leaf for citizens to be ready to come and stay. 1021 01:19:23,860 --> 01:19:30,900 So thank you guys. I wanted to say thank you to Mr. Young for putting forth this effort to research all this. 1022 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:38,460 I'm excited because in December we thought that by this day the pool is going to be dug out. 1023 01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:44,080 and the cool is still here and it's still an option and so I'm very appreciative of that. 1024 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:51,100 I'm appreciative of all this forward movement that we've had and that proposal that he found 1025 01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:57,280 is killer, that sounds really cool that it doesn't produce more waste and we still get to keep 1026 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,960 our footprint and I did have a couple of questions about- 1027 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:14,360 I thought that one of them was, if we keep the lap pool, does that, as it is, does that allow us to continue to possibly be a rental facility for swim teams or schools or anything like that? 1028 01:20:15,460 --> 01:20:18,900 Because that might be something we want to consider with the revenue options. 1029 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:43,280 I did want to correct something that I heard Wes say during the presentation, he, at one point, said we've now gone to 2.5 million, but according to that presentation, that 2.5 million was for a new pool, which is not what was being presented today, what was presented today was a renovation. 1030 01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:55,220 So I just wanted to put it out there that that was he missed spoke and the 2.5 was not any of the numbers given for these two renovation options. 1031 01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:56,280 That's correct, right? 1032 01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:59,480 That was a new for that. 1033 01:21:01,220 --> 01:21:02,600 You're asking what the two. 1034 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:10,060 I just want to clarify that when West said 2.5 that was for a new pool and that is not the two things we are discussing right now. 1035 01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:12,140 I think you're correct. 1036 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:18,080 One of the options I was considered way back for the council was a new pool on that location 1037 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,560 if my numbers are correct. 1038 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,740 And so that number has nothing to do with what we're doing. 1039 01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:25,260 Other than it's close to the number that we're looking at. 1040 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:28,420 No, that's perfect. 1041 01:21:29,180 --> 01:21:29,500 I'm just... 1042 01:21:29,500 --> 01:21:32,800 Okay, I just wanted to make sure I understood that correctly. 1043 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:43,600 And I wanted to also ask, personally, I would love to see this avoid being a bond, because 1044 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:49,720 that's going to continue pushing this timeline back, and it seems like if we were able 1045 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:57,220 to come up with something that wasn't a bond, that the full content is finished this year. 1046 01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:04,560 would be on the timeline with the worth of process. It seems like that. It seems like it would take 1047 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:05,540 us as long. 1048 01:22:07,580 --> 01:22:11,740 So, you know, it's been brought up in the past and I think John has mentioned it, 1049 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:18,900 you know, about focusing on, or having options of consulting with the county and other grants. 1050 01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:27,200 And I know I mentioned things to a few people, you know, the possibility of corporate 1051 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,800 sponsorships for these things. 1052 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,200 There is a precedent by companies like HEP building entire community polls 1053 01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:36,970 for such a large 1054 01:22:36,970 --> 01:22:37,350 corporate. 1055 01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:41,990 That might be a possibility. 1056 01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:49,710 And so leading into that, you know, just being part of a group of residents that really want 1057 01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:54,490 to get this going and get this finished so we can move on to other great things. 1058 01:22:55,290 --> 01:22:59,430 and trying to find ways to avoid this being a bond and an expense on residents. 1059 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:07,730 If I know that the council has asked for people to come with solutions and not always come with companies. 1060 01:23:08,590 --> 01:23:19,350 And so if it's the desire of the council, if it's of interest to anybody, myself and Rainbow Pressey would love an opportunity to form some sort of citizen committee, 1061 01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:27,450 maybe along with a couple of council members on the group with us to focus on going out and securing these funds and finding 1062 01:23:27,450 --> 01:23:34,370 sponsors and really having some people with their feet on the ground and putting in time to doing the 1063 01:23:34,370 --> 01:23:40,050 the legwork of getting this stuff lined up as a possibility of either covering 1064 01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:46,950 the maintenance budget or potentially maybe we can find some kind of 88 compliance business that 1065 01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:49,750 and wants to sponsor just the ADA compliance portion 1066 01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:53,150 of our budget in exchange for having a name or something like that. 1067 01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:56,870 So, if there is an interest, we would like to offer a solution 1068 01:23:56,870 --> 01:24:01,750 of chairing that and really try to take that outside funding aspect of it, 1069 01:24:03,450 --> 01:24:06,510 away from Parks and Rec, who has a lot of other things to do, 1070 01:24:06,850 --> 01:24:10,430 and maybe instead of sending this to Parks and Rec and bouncing back and forth, 1071 01:24:10,590 --> 01:24:15,050 maybe this is an option of something that we consider to try to keep things moving quickly 1072 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,150 and keep this from having to be upon the expense. 1073 01:24:19,010 --> 01:24:19,630 But thank you guys. 1074 01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:22,110 I'm really excited about that option. 1075 01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:24,270 And I know that for a lot of people, the warranty 1076 01:24:24,270 --> 01:24:25,550 was a huge sticking point. 1077 01:24:25,650 --> 01:24:28,510 And this warranty far exceeds any of those new pools. 1078 01:24:30,750 --> 01:24:31,610 So thank you guys. 1079 01:24:31,730 --> 01:24:32,470 Appreciate it. 1080 01:24:32,850 --> 01:24:34,650 It doesn't look like the stuff that you use. 1081 01:24:34,770 --> 01:24:35,750 Bristle on. 1082 01:24:44,050 --> 01:24:44,410 Yeah. 1083 01:24:44,410 --> 01:24:45,630 And you don't want it, but yeah. 1084 01:24:46,050 --> 01:24:46,670 Is this the one? 1085 01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:49,190 It's just going to put it in before we paint it on the pool. 1086 01:24:49,390 --> 01:24:49,610 Yeah. 1087 01:24:52,090 --> 01:24:54,740 Are she baby-free because she's not checking it? 1088 01:24:58,760 --> 01:24:59,980 So yeah, I'm here over the pool. 1089 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:12,120 As well, my family, my husband and a little one just moved here to win crests back in August. And a big part of why we love win crest is how many community events are here. 1090 01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:25,340 We love, of course, the Christmas, but just that ability to meet our neighbors and to have that small community here. That's a huge drawing factor. And part of that is a pool. 1091 01:25:25,340 --> 01:25:31,660 We, that was one of the first things we looked into when we looked into when Chris was, is there a pool? 1092 01:25:32,060 --> 01:25:35,100 What community amenities are there? 1093 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,300 And we were really excited to learn that there was a pool here. 1094 01:25:39,660 --> 01:25:43,000 And then very quickly said to hear that, might not have a pool. 1095 01:25:44,780 --> 01:25:51,580 So the matters to us, and so I know it's worth everyone's time for us to come and just share that. 1096 01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:56,700 one of those families that do care and would use that pool and would love to spend time 1097 01:25:56,700 --> 01:26:01,780 getting to know our neighbors, the other kids from the neighborhood. We've already connected 1098 01:26:01,780 --> 01:26:07,580 with some other families here and we absolutely love that and we just would love more chances 1099 01:26:07,580 --> 01:26:13,520 to be able to do that. So I don't have a lot to say I just wanted to let you know we're here, 1100 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:19,940 we love swimming, we love summer, we love family time and we love that when press is such a great family 1101 01:26:19,940 --> 01:26:22,700 community. Thank you. 1102 01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:23,460 Thank you. Welcome. 1103 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:25,860 Stacy, Connace. 1104 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,060 Connace. 1105 01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:28,280 Connace. 1106 01:26:28,300 --> 01:26:28,720 Connace? 1107 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:29,260 Connace. 1108 01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:30,200 Connace. 1109 01:26:30,540 --> 01:26:30,700 Connace. 1110 01:26:30,740 --> 01:26:31,200 Connace. 1111 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,620 Can you spell that for us? 1112 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:36,560 I can't. 1113 01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:37,940 I can't. 1114 01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:41,100 Thank you. 1115 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,860 I'm also just here to speak about the whole. 1116 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,960 I'm going a lot of the things that Susie and R.S. 1117 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:56,220 was said, my husband and our three-year-old daughter moved here back in June, and we also thought 1118 01:26:56,220 --> 01:27:01,460 that there was going to be a poll in the neighborhood, and then we're disappointed to hear 1119 01:27:01,460 --> 01:27:05,420 that there wasn't, and then excited to hear that it was still a possibility that there might 1120 01:27:05,420 --> 01:27:05,780 be. 1121 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:12,120 I had no idea about the new technology, the Martha, that he was talking about, sounds amazing 1122 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,240 to me, not an engineer, but sounds really good to me. 1123 01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:22,260 We also really came here just for the community. 1124 01:27:23,060 --> 01:27:27,860 We liked the feel of just a smaller town inside of San Antonio. 1125 01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:29,220 I grew up in San Antonio. 1126 01:27:29,620 --> 01:27:33,560 I grew up coming to see the Christmas lights here and just always thought 1127 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,100 when Christmas was such a cool community. 1128 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,980 My husband and I lived in Austin for 20 years. 1129 01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:41,720 My husband's from there, but I lived there for 20 years. 1130 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:47,440 And we just, we, out grew, or, no, not out grew, but we just did not want to live in Austin 1131 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:47,760 anywhere. 1132 01:27:48,620 --> 01:27:56,720 And I came back to San Antonio, and it's just, yeah, I just, I just love being in San Antonio, 1133 01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:59,440 but also having like a smaller community feel. 1134 01:28:00,220 --> 01:28:05,000 I do feel like having a bowl would be a place to meet more of our neighbors, and to meet more 1135 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:05,520 areas. 1136 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:11,440 I do feel like a lot of younger, it would attract a lot of younger families with kids. 1137 01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:17,620 to this area. I think that it would increase the value of the homes and just to track here. 1138 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:19,380 To look at my notes. 1139 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:25,320 We... 1140 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,380 Oh, I do... 1141 01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:33,200 Let's use it with saying as far as getting sponsorships from, from, like, HIV or something like that. 1142 01:28:34,020 --> 01:28:38,680 I, like I said, grew up coming here to see the lights and I feel like people from all over San Antonio 1143 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,860 and even surrounding cities come here to see the lights across this time. 1144 01:28:41,860 --> 01:28:47,800 So I do feel like that would be a great option that there are big corporations that would want 1145 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:53,460 to help us out and do that. I do also agree that I don't want it to go to a bond. I think that 1146 01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:58,720 that would take, you know, just keep procrastinating and taking longer to get things done. 1147 01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:07,060 So yeah, I'm for it. I'm one of those families that are for it. We would use it and I just think 1148 01:29:07,060 --> 01:29:08,880 It would enrich the community even more. 1149 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:09,660 Thank you. 1150 01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:15,340 That is an end of citizens to be heard. 1151 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,640 What I want to do now is I want to go to 1152 01:29:32,930 --> 01:29:34,450 11C. 1153 01:29:38,050 --> 01:29:42,730 Okay, so we're going to move now to 11C. 1154 01:29:42,890 --> 01:29:45,670 Discussing Act City Council will review. 1155 01:29:45,950 --> 01:29:52,630 Discuss and make that cash on improving the fiscal year 2021-2022 audit as presented by 1156 01:29:52,630 --> 01:29:59,770 on and associates. I moved that we approved the audit that was presented by Armstrong. 1157 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:16,300 All right, we're going to move back to item number 6, public hearing. 1158 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:28,640 I'm going to have a conversation with the attorneys about doing exactly what we did here, 1159 01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:32,620 which we've got presentations and there really isn't any reason why we can't fix that. 1160 01:30:32,660 --> 01:30:37,260 I do believe that that's helpful with those particularly citizens we heard, they've got 1161 01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:44,220 a lot of information that we've taken up, so we may, we may adjust the agenda as we do. 1162 01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:48,300 So we would actually have an agenda representing the way the meeting is going to work instead of 1163 01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,200 Dan in-ball and yet we've been doing. 1164 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:50,940 We could indeed. 1165 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:53,020 All right. 1166 01:30:53,180 --> 01:30:53,740 Public hearing. 1167 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,220 It is 731. 1168 01:30:58,900 --> 01:31:00,780 We're going to open this public hearing. 1169 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:12,540 And we actually, I guess we'll be in a technical journey to count the meeting and we're opening a public hearing for received comments from the public to consider a recommendation from planning and zoning commission on potential amendments. 1170 01:31:12,540 --> 01:31:18,340 the chapter one, thirteen zoning, planning, and zoning, a board of adjustment. 1171 01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:23,620 Was there any citizen who wishes to speak on the public hearing regarding this item? 1172 01:31:26,420 --> 01:31:28,040 No, what sign up? 1173 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:28,520 Okay. 1174 01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:30,960 But they don't have to, because if they want to talk, they have to let it out. 1175 01:31:31,140 --> 01:31:31,680 Anybody's here. 1176 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:32,860 They may speak. 1177 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:39,500 All right. 1178 01:31:40,220 --> 01:31:45,680 I'm just going to wait until that thing goes, okay, at 7.32, I don't want to, I wish. 1179 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,600 I don't want to open and close it in the same minute. 1180 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:57,460 So at 7.32, we're closing the public hearing regarding the chapter 13, we're going back to the city council meeting. 1181 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:04,380 And so we will be now on item number eight, which would be the consent agenda. 1182 01:32:04,540 --> 01:32:09,060 There are three items in the consent agenda, is anyone wish to take anything off the consent agenda. 1183 01:32:13,050 --> 01:32:17,250 Hearing none, I'll entertain the motion to accept the consent agenda. 1184 01:32:17,250 --> 01:32:23,150 Second. I said move the side. We accept the consent agenda. Any discussion? I was in favor of 1185 01:32:23,150 --> 01:32:25,310 raise your hand. It's done. Thank you, Councillor. 1186 01:32:27,690 --> 01:32:33,670 Ordinance City Council review. I don't number nine. Ordinance City Council review. 1187 01:32:33,850 --> 01:32:38,330 Discuss and make take action on Ordinance 2023. Zeroes are to an Ordinance 1188 01:32:38,330 --> 01:32:42,570 Mending Charter chapter 113 of the Winchrist Code of Ordinance. 1189 01:32:42,850 --> 01:32:46,990 I moved to adopt the recommended amendments to chapter 113, made by the Winchrist 1190 01:32:46,990 --> 01:33:03,990 planning and zoning commission with the additional clarification and amendments submitted by the city attorney to the definition of sexually oriented businesses contained in section 1113-5 and to add section 1113-352 to article 6 of chapter 13 is recommended by the city attorney's office. 1191 01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:11,330 Second, moved in second, as stated, any questions, comments? 1192 01:33:12,130 --> 01:33:14,150 Thank you. Excellent motion, except for the misspell. 1193 01:33:15,890 --> 01:33:16,850 I'd love to. 1194 01:33:17,710 --> 01:33:25,130 While the piece about this, actually oriented businesses didn't go first to planning and zoning, 1195 01:33:25,370 --> 01:33:26,390 they did discuss it. 1196 01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:29,810 They're agreement with the changes. 1197 01:33:31,470 --> 01:33:32,470 They understand it. 1198 01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:35,670 and this is the first read so any other discussion 1199 01:33:36,230 --> 01:33:38,270 all this day raise your right hand 1200 01:33:38,270 --> 01:33:40,310 at four o'clock thank you council resolutions 1201 01:33:41,650 --> 01:33:45,870 city council review discuss and may act on resolution twenty twenty three five 1202 01:33:45,870 --> 01:33:47,590 four resolution approving 1203 01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:51,670 uh... proposal for the replacement of the fire bay doors 1204 01:33:51,670 --> 01:33:55,190 that we accept resolution twenty twenty three dash five o'clock 1205 01:33:57,500 --> 01:33:59,760 is it is there an hour there 1206 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,140 there's an hour in this thing on my screen okay i was looking at the uh... 1207 01:34:03,140 --> 01:34:04,880 there's a make a difference if it's not, 1208 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,840 there's ours not on the agenda. 1209 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,500 I don't, that's not on the agenda. 1210 01:34:09,740 --> 01:34:11,220 Because it's in a, there's an attachment 1211 01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:13,340 to the agenda that has this exact thing, 1212 01:34:13,380 --> 01:34:13,820 is it there? 1213 01:34:14,660 --> 01:34:16,620 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, 1214 01:34:16,740 --> 01:34:17,180 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, 1215 01:34:17,180 --> 01:34:18,280 everybody has arts at you. 1216 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,280 So apparently everyone has this, 1217 01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:21,980 so copy I have apparently was up there, 1218 01:34:22,180 --> 01:34:22,600 so sorry. 1219 01:34:24,020 --> 01:34:25,740 All right, was there a second? 1220 01:34:25,820 --> 01:34:26,580 Yes, we have. 1221 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,740 We've been seconded that we accept the resolution of 20, 23, 1222 01:34:32,060 --> 01:34:32,540 504R. 1223 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,950 Thank you, Council, City Council. 1224 01:34:38,210 --> 01:34:43,990 What are you discussing may act on resolution 2023-505? 1225 01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:45,630 Is this also an R? 1226 01:34:46,590 --> 01:34:46,690 Yes. 1227 01:34:47,470 --> 01:34:47,670 Okay. 1228 01:34:48,350 --> 01:34:51,550 A resolution approving one year contract with General, 1229 01:34:51,810 --> 01:34:52,370 I'm sorry. 1230 01:34:52,730 --> 01:34:54,770 Greater Randolph area services provider. 1231 01:34:54,970 --> 01:34:58,850 I mean, we adopt resolution 2023-505-R second. 1232 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:10,780 Moving to the second, we have Dr. Resolution 51223505R, although there's any statements or any questions. 1233 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:19,440 Yeah, I'm glad that we got the numbers and just so people realize that I don't think most people realize we have this. 1234 01:35:19,460 --> 01:35:24,820 So don't, and every year we say, you all need to let this information get out to people. 1235 01:35:24,820 --> 01:35:29,080 I did have a gentleman call me one day and asked me about it and I explained to him how it worked and he was 1236 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:36,500 he's uses it to this day. Every time we do this it's like, this is such a great thing that we have for our citizens and nobody 1237 01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:42,880 a very few number of people use it. So while we increased in 2022 to a 104 clients 1238 01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:50,940 that was up from 34 and 2021, assuming that had a COVID impact. In 2020 there was 114 1239 01:35:51,840 --> 01:36:00,000 While it is now on the website, there's not a separate location that talks about, even if you 1240 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,840 in the search on the city site, if you put in discounted rides or transportation, grass 1241 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:06,900 doesn't come up. 1242 01:36:06,900 --> 01:36:11,580 And if you don't know a grass stands for, you wouldn't know to put it in the search. 1243 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:19,520 So if we could put the link on the grass website, there's actually a place that says when 1244 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,820 across transportation. 1245 01:36:21,780 --> 01:36:25,060 And so if we could get that wind-christ transportation 1246 01:36:27,340 --> 01:36:30,840 social media information and put it on our website, 1247 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,140 I think that may help. 1248 01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:34,400 And I also think on a regular basis, 1249 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,840 while I know it's been in the newsletter that it needs to be 1250 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,520 more frequent in the newsletter. 1251 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,540 I think every time we've done this, 1252 01:36:40,620 --> 01:36:43,600 I said can we have it in the newsletter every day and time? 1253 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:49,020 I mean, this is a really good thing that we subsidize 1254 01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:51,320 and people aren't using it as they should. 1255 01:36:51,620 --> 01:36:51,720 I think. 1256 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,240 So people know it's for people to be able to go to the grocery store 1257 01:36:55,240 --> 01:37:00,480 to go to their doctor's appointments at $5 at their time 1258 01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:04,420 that's appropriate and then be picked up and taken back. 1259 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,180 So they don't have to use Uber or any of the other 1260 01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:11,600 she'll have to meet certain, they do have to meet requirements 1261 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,680 and the application again is on that website 1262 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:20,960 on the grass, on the grass website, on how they go about doing that. 1263 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:22,580 Okay. 1264 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:23,620 Any other discussion? 1265 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:29,440 The only other was it expanded two years ago to go to, as I understand it, to 1266 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:29,940 BAMCEL. 1267 01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:30,800 Yes, it did. 1268 01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:41,180 Except the Resolution 2023 505 R as you're ready. 1269 01:37:43,300 --> 01:37:44,360 City Council was reviewed. 1270 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:50,700 Please discuss me, Tication Resolution 2023506R, a resolution approving a grant application 1271 01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:57,140 submitted by a State of Texas bullet resistance shield grant program FY 2023. 1272 01:37:59,340 --> 01:38:03,380 I move the resolution 2023-506R. 1273 01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:04,940 Move the second. 1274 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:10,260 We accept the resolution 2023-506R discussion. 1275 01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:14,880 I appreciate that we have a grant. 1276 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,180 That's a good use of so many else this money. 1277 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,660 Well, no, it's tax dollars. 1278 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:22,640 So it's our money. 1279 01:38:23,620 --> 01:38:24,660 But you get your share. 1280 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:25,780 Yeah. 1281 01:38:25,780 --> 01:38:27,180 Could big fees. 1282 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:27,760 All right. 1283 01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:29,960 All those in favor, raise your right hand. 1284 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:30,600 It's done. 1285 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:33,360 Item D. City Council reviewed. 1286 01:38:33,380 --> 01:38:34,620 Discuss the May take action. 1287 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,260 Resolution 2023507 are resolution approving. 1288 01:38:38,260 --> 01:38:40,780 removing the mercy purchase of new 1289 01:38:40,780 --> 01:38:42,800 spill and flexed server. 1290 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,980 I know we accept the resolution 2023 1291 01:38:44,980 --> 01:38:48,120 day, 507 R. Second. 1292 01:38:48,780 --> 01:38:50,680 Second. Second that we accept the 1293 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,600 resolution 2023 507 R. Discussion. 1294 01:38:54,820 --> 01:38:57,680 How quickly, if this, if this 1295 01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,360 passes, how quickly can we get the 1296 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,260 update? Because I know it's a 1297 01:39:01,260 --> 01:39:01,780 for urgency. 1298 01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:05,120 I don't want to make 1299 01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:06,820 commuters. Those are we're going to 1300 01:39:06,820 --> 01:39:08,380 get it tomorrow, but we're going to go 1301 01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:12,700 process, the purchase order and everything. Hopefully, I think it's 1302 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:20,000 said two weeks. But you know, I don't want to jinx us that it doesn't get 1303 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,660 exactly right. That's the reason I don't want to, but I know we're helping. Hopefully I'm 1304 01:39:24,660 --> 01:39:30,180 going to say in 30 days it'll be up and running. So this is a five year we pay for 1305 01:39:30,180 --> 01:39:38,780 five years. However, it made when the WCCPD meets later this year. 1306 01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:43,320 Yes, hopefully we'll get reimbursed, which verbally I had a discussion with two of them 1307 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:49,300 and they said, bring it on. Now, I would not be surprised once we opened it up. We're 1308 01:39:49,300 --> 01:39:54,780 going to need another 20 or 30,000 dollars for this or for that. And if it's within my range, 1309 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:59,560 I will go ahead and approve it. And if it's not, I'll probably do it anyway and then come 1310 01:39:59,560 --> 01:39:59,980 back and back. 1311 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,220 Number five. But again, it's once you open it up. 1312 01:40:10,940 --> 01:40:16,560 All those in favor, raise your hand. Thank you. All right, we're going to discuss an act. 1313 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:26,420 Number 11, city council reviews, let me take action. Act may act on a warning a contract for the dog fence, dark park fence. 1314 01:40:28,300 --> 01:40:33,660 So at this point, I guess we would give direction to Mr. Young to receive with his recommendations. 1315 01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:36,740 Yes, sir. We'll still come back with a resolution at the next meeting. 1316 01:40:37,540 --> 01:40:46,260 go forth and get it done on court fets whatever do it and we don't need it we don't need to 1317 01:40:47,180 --> 01:40:47,740 vote 1318 01:40:47,740 --> 01:40:49,860 I've got the ball to get it 1319 01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,780 City Councilor I'm number B City Council review this doesn't make take action act on 1320 01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:02,960 City pool located at 5 o 6 windows so we keep talking about it figure out where we're going 1321 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:04,600 Now, it's fair. 1322 01:41:05,540 --> 01:41:11,800 So, when we say that, do we give direction for hearts and 1323 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,740 wrecks to come back with something or something? 1324 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:22,500 I mean, I think that it might be a smart move to have them 1325 01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:25,740 discuss it, maybe do a public hearing or something. 1326 01:41:25,740 --> 01:41:29,040 I mean, because part of this is we do need to get men, but they do. 1327 01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:30,420 You know, I mentioned splash pad. 1328 01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:36,080 I mean, I think there should be some processes as quick as we can, recognizing that we've been 1329 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,140 a long time without a fool. 1330 01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:41,240 At the last part to recommend, I did make some comments that there was going to be discussions 1331 01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:46,540 here and that I was hoping that the council would tell me to take it back for them. 1332 01:41:46,540 --> 01:41:52,640 Take it back to the question of the property use and, you know, for them to also agree that 1333 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,980 maybe it should be renovated or they might say, no, you shouldn't have renovated and 1334 01:41:56,980 --> 01:42:02,160 can make whatever decisions you all want. But you know I'm saying but at least carry the 1335 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,920 the formality of the conversation of a project so we can move forward. It certainly is within 1336 01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:13,340 the auspices of Parks and Rec. We would like them to go forth and discuss it and you make that 1337 01:42:13,340 --> 01:42:18,940 happen and then let's do it again. We'll bring it back a report hopefully in one time time out time out. 1338 01:42:19,740 --> 01:42:25,360 To me when you give it to Parks and Recs, that's looking at kind of the lengthening out the process 1339 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:31,140 to get things done. So can we have the city manager have a time limit? 1340 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,340 He said next month, we'll have a bite of the month. 1341 01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,840 No, no, he'll have a bite of the month. He'll have a bite of the month. 1342 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,660 You think you're going to have a, a, we're going to take a 1343 01:42:39,660 --> 01:42:41,880 to them at the next meeting. We already have it on the agenda. 1344 01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,280 And you think you're going to get a rapid decision. 1345 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,600 So let's, well, show them the same presentation. 1346 01:42:50,740 --> 01:42:55,800 Very smart person told me something. If you want something bad and fast, that's exactly how 1347 01:42:55,800 --> 01:43:00,720 you're going to get it. And I'm not saying I think we need to expedite the process. But there's 1348 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:06,380 got to be a process. It would be okay, Mr. Young. This is a great idea. Go. All I'm saying is 1349 01:43:06,380 --> 01:43:12,140 put a time limit on your process. I think that you know that we should give it the parts 1350 01:43:12,140 --> 01:43:17,060 and rest with the understanding it needs to be expedited whatever that means. Because because 1351 01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:22,560 we've already had people who mentioned they would be part of a group that could potentially 1352 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,460 to go out and find funding, that would be part of it. 1353 01:43:25,580 --> 01:43:28,980 I do think that there needs to be some citizen input 1354 01:43:28,980 --> 01:43:30,140 on what that is. 1355 01:43:31,180 --> 01:43:34,640 But I don't disagree with the need for speed, 1356 01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:37,940 but I do. 1357 01:43:39,970 --> 01:43:40,490 I do. 1358 01:43:41,290 --> 01:43:42,330 I do. 1359 01:43:42,330 --> 01:43:42,470 I do. 1360 01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:44,590 Well, I disagree with the need for speed. 1361 01:43:44,590 --> 01:43:45,810 The pattern is full. 1362 01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:48,570 So I do think we need to, 1363 01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:51,250 with the understanding that we, 1364 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:52,010 for lack of a better, 1365 01:43:52,010 --> 01:43:53,790 of what this happens sooner than later. 1366 01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:58,590 We do not want this to be a six-month, you know, whatever it is. 1367 01:43:58,670 --> 01:44:03,150 Maybe what we could recommend for them is to review this presentation and for them to 1368 01:44:03,150 --> 01:44:05,190 be ready for the meeting when we discuss. 1369 01:44:05,690 --> 01:44:10,130 Maybe we could also recommend for them to schedule a public hearing within the next, you 1370 01:44:10,130 --> 01:44:16,850 know, 30 days from a moment they get it, they will come back or we'll even have a pre-app 1371 01:44:17,710 --> 01:44:21,970 public survey or something, include it in what this whole deal of something. 1372 01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:26,590 Let me tell you what, if we're going to do a survey because you know, I'm all in love with 1373 01:44:26,590 --> 01:44:26,610 survey. 1374 01:44:26,610 --> 01:44:28,310 We still have survey monthly on that. 1375 01:44:28,330 --> 01:44:33,510 I think it's important to figure out because this is a real thing. 1376 01:44:34,330 --> 01:44:36,170 It's X number of dollars. 1377 01:44:36,430 --> 01:44:37,050 Yes, ma'am. 1378 01:44:37,210 --> 01:44:39,410 Do you people want us to spend these dollars? 1379 01:44:39,630 --> 01:44:41,490 How many dollars are you happy with this spending? 1380 01:44:42,250 --> 01:44:44,470 If we're going to, are you cool with this? 1381 01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:47,470 I mean, I don't think anybody's going to be cool with us floating about. 1382 01:44:48,130 --> 01:44:52,450 I think that that is something nobody wants to do, just speaking from my feelings. 1383 01:44:53,150 --> 01:44:59,110 But if you want a pool, a pool is going to cost this many dollars. 1384 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,640 We have all those dollars, so please help us decide how we go forward with this, so it doesn't sit 1385 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:15,120 around for another three years. And as I said, I think there are real places we can go and ask for money, 1386 01:45:15,460 --> 01:45:17,220 but we need to decide how to do it. 1387 01:45:17,220 --> 01:45:21,720 We will share with you all some of the questions that we're going to put in our survey to get some 1388 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:29,220 public input, which we'll share with the Parks and Rec, and within a couple of days from now. 1389 01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:33,860 Okay. I'm fine with person Rex going at the end of the month because they don't need to 1390 01:45:33,860 --> 01:45:40,400 end of the month. But I think there should be a plan about who is potentially out there 1391 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:47,880 that may donate in that city administration gets that plan together about who possibly we could 1392 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,280 contact. And even start some. 1393 01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:56,080 And I'm not going to argue with you. 1394 01:45:56,180 --> 01:46:02,240 I think you should rope EDC into this and I think that they should share with us what their 1395 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:08,480 opinions are on reaching out, but I also think you, and him, the dude there in the middle, 1396 01:46:08,940 --> 01:46:14,380 should reach out to the commissioners, our commissioner, and I think you need to open some 1397 01:46:14,380 --> 01:46:18,740 lines of communication and remind him that he promised a million bucks to fix the bullet 1398 01:46:18,740 --> 01:46:24,440 why and those same people that went to the why come to wincrest and use this pool and we 1399 01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:28,380 want to be all inclusive and we want to be available for anybody that wants to come and use our 1400 01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:36,500 pool and if that's the way it's going to be his area here is so underrepresented doesn't have 1401 01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:42,880 any pool facilities go look at what they have in in some other commissioners district and we 1402 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:47,740 don't have that here and I think it's important for us to take the steps necessary and talk 1403 01:46:47,740 --> 01:46:51,640 commissioners court and talk to our county commissioner and find out what they're 1404 01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,180 willing to bring to the table. And you know what, maybe it's also something that we 1405 01:46:55,180 --> 01:46:59,660 should talk to with the school districts. They're going to use it and we're 1406 01:46:59,660 --> 01:47:04,300 certainly happy to let that continue to happen. What what what can they bring to 1407 01:47:04,300 --> 01:47:08,020 the table? Why don't you tell us how you really feel so that the dude in the 1408 01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:11,840 middle will do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do in the middle. I appreciate you. 1409 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:16,640 Thank you. The funding part is not hearts and reps. It's not so. I think that needs 1410 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,420 to separate we in the past. 1411 01:47:18,700 --> 01:47:19,320 I agree. 1412 01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:22,820 And so I like to do in the middle and that dude, those two. 1413 01:47:23,020 --> 01:47:24,440 We got to do exactly right. 1414 01:47:24,580 --> 01:47:28,160 They would come up with some sort of a plan for what it looks like. 1415 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:29,840 And then they would not be the funding. 1416 01:47:33,260 --> 01:47:35,640 All right. Anything else? 1417 01:47:36,660 --> 01:47:37,120 Got it. 1418 01:47:37,180 --> 01:47:37,660 All right. 1419 01:47:40,220 --> 01:47:43,180 I had a number of these in the Council of Davis, 1420 01:47:43,460 --> 01:47:47,760 in May, to act on city of one Chris for teaching plan. 1421 01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:55,140 Can we have that? 1422 01:47:59,070 --> 01:48:02,250 I was just wondering, then, no, yes. 1423 01:48:04,710 --> 01:48:07,890 We didn't get this information. 1424 01:48:08,210 --> 01:48:09,230 We're going to present it, correct? 1425 01:48:09,570 --> 01:48:09,950 I mean, 1426 01:48:13,170 --> 01:48:14,130 isn't it? 1427 01:48:14,630 --> 01:48:15,170 Isn't it, isn't it? 1428 01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:20,650 If you all would like to review it again, we can bring it back at the next meeting. 1429 01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:21,590 We have no problem. 1430 01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:23,790 We have a lot more of partners. 1431 01:48:23,810 --> 01:48:26,510 Go ahead and present it because we haven't gotten a presentation. 1432 01:48:27,450 --> 01:48:27,610 Okay. 1433 01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:28,130 Six months. 1434 01:48:29,970 --> 01:48:30,210 Okay. 1435 01:48:30,210 --> 01:48:30,610 I got this. 1436 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:34,900 Okay. 1437 01:48:34,900 --> 01:48:38,760 I'm just going to, if there's a lot of language in this, so I'm just going to kind 1438 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,600 of highlight just some key points that we're waiting on directives from. 1439 01:48:43,700 --> 01:48:47,260 So of course, you all know the strategic plan was launched in 2021. 1440 01:48:47,260 --> 01:48:57,940 We did a survey and then based off those surveys, the City Council adopted a strategic plan that runs through 2023 and we are approaching the end of that plan. 1441 01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:01,000 One of the cornerstone initiatives was infrastructure. 1442 01:49:02,180 --> 01:49:07,000 One of them being a decision made on the swimming pool, so that directive has taken place today, 1443 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:12,840 meeting and when we're forward with that. The second initiative was also an assessment for staffing 1444 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:19,960 and space needs for city government. The next item on the agenda well discuss the RFP for 1445 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:26,020 these space utilization needs. We did not, we haven't brought forward the staffing one because I was 1446 01:49:26,020 --> 01:49:31,540 given a new direction to add to that RFP and they do need to do be two separate ones because there 1447 01:49:31,540 --> 01:49:36,060 consultants that are different for the both. We didn't want to limit the feedback. 1448 01:49:46,050 --> 01:49:50,390 And then the other initiative was the assessment of IT department finances 1449 01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:55,350 has been working on that. There was a discussion regarding the IT maintenance plan in our 1450 01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:59,970 budget work sessions and improvements to our server and then... 1451 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,440 The PD servers, while we're moving forward with that initiative. 1452 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:10,360 The second infrastructure, cornerstone, was the creation and communication of street light maintenance 1453 01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:16,760 plan. We have been able to send out website update, social media, door hangers, every time 1454 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:21,260 there's something done with our maintenance projects and our capital projects with regard 1455 01:50:21,260 --> 01:50:25,560 to streets. The two that I am going to highlight is the installation of the new traffic light, 1456 01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:33,020 Eagle Crest in Crestway and the second one moving forward that's going to begin next month is the 20 mile 1457 01:50:33,020 --> 01:50:37,840 hour street labeling at various locations throughout the street, the city. 1458 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,480 We mainly focus in on Crestway and mid-crow. 1459 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,380 Aren't they already labeled? 21 miles are actually on the street. 1460 01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,120 This is going to be on the street. It's not going to be on the street. 1461 01:50:51,860 --> 01:50:54,700 Yes. It's not in any 3D thing, is it? 1462 01:50:54,700 --> 01:50:57,720 We're not going to waste any more money on that. 1463 01:50:59,420 --> 01:51:09,880 The other, one of the other initiatives under this was the improvement of the interest and aesthetics into windcrest, entrance gateways, while we're still working on that. 1464 01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:19,480 We Council did adopt the purchase or approve the funding for the two digital boards and those are going to be, you'll start seeing the installation of those this month. 1465 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:29,180 for public service the second cornerstone we had several initiatives underneath here one of them was the 1466 01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:36,460 revision of the website so you all have seen that and that is going to be an ongoing process the feasibility 1467 01:51:36,460 --> 01:51:42,620 assessment of in-house emergency management and ambulance services this is still pinning directive 1468 01:51:42,620 --> 01:51:49,460 and approval from city council the plan for city services south the walls of road and the business 1469 01:51:49,460 --> 01:51:58,620 district is also pending directive and approval form city council discussions have continued have taken place and we'll continue on those. 1470 01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,980 The third cornerstone is Parks and Recreation. 1471 01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:10,420 There was the adoption of the Parks and Recreation Master Plan and Parks and Recreation Commission is continually doing working on that. 1472 01:52:10,420 --> 01:52:16,260 And we also have one of the other big initiatives was the improvement of lighting throughout 1473 01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:18,040 tax, tax, tax, park facilities. 1474 01:52:18,940 --> 01:52:24,300 That initiative will be coming back to Council in March and we will be pinning directive 1475 01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:26,740 in approval from Council then. 1476 01:52:29,060 --> 01:52:34,060 Another initiative under Parks and Recreation was offering health and wellness activities 1477 01:52:34,060 --> 01:52:34,880 in the parks. 1478 01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:39,100 That has been a huge success with residents and non-residents. 1479 01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:45,500 We continue to track those that are in attendance and we have gotten so much positive feedback 1480 01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:50,820 through social media and direct emailing from people that are enjoying those classes. 1481 01:52:53,290 --> 01:52:57,010 Then of course we also have the anticipated grant opening of the dog park. 1482 01:52:57,250 --> 01:53:02,750 The Parks and Recreation Commission is discussed during the grant opening doing some kind of dog park walk 1483 01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:08,070 to also incorporate the use of the newly renovated tech as part trails. 1484 01:53:09,150 --> 01:53:13,770 we're looking at spring or summer for that and then the improvement of the 1485 01:53:13,770 --> 01:53:18,150 tack is park walking trails and it's not a connectivity bridge but just kind of 1486 01:53:18,150 --> 01:53:23,850 a connectivity walkway through the drainage ditch. A bridge was not any part of 1487 01:53:23,850 --> 01:53:29,750 that incident that my apologies for that. Another one was the incorporation of 1488 01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:38,050 public art and art activities. So Parks and Recreation Commission is going to be 1489 01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:47,830 the 18th March 18th economic development. These are just some highlights that economic development 1490 01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:54,290 provided to us. I didn't know if there's anything you want me to repeat but I don't this was 1491 01:53:54,290 --> 01:53:55,790 provided from them so. 1492 01:53:59,860 --> 01:54:03,660 And then I'm going to jump over to schools. That was another corner 1493 01:54:03,660 --> 01:54:07,600 initiative. One is better understanding of schools, educational 1494 01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:12,580 ratings, and safety issue. City staff, city departments, and 1495 01:54:12,580 --> 01:54:15,880 department heads continue to work with meetings, discuss safety 1496 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,220 initiatives, they have routine fire safety drills and inspections, 1497 01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:24,220 our food inspections, so we are working with them, as far as the 1498 01:54:24,220 --> 01:54:26,700 engagement has definitely increased with the schools. 1499 01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:30,580 Quarterly discussions between northeast and independent school district, 1500 01:54:30,580 --> 01:54:36,480 charter schools in the city. That is an ongoing effort with the city manager, PD and fire. 1501 01:54:36,700 --> 01:54:41,020 They hold regular meetings with the administration and staff. And then of course, Council 1502 01:54:41,020 --> 01:54:43,980 working with the various Board of Directors or representatives of the city. 1503 01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:49,060 Yeah. And one comment that I would like to make the Windcrest Elementary on their last 1504 01:54:49,060 --> 01:54:59,260 rating is the and the Ed White Middle School is also a B. Just for the record. And I know 1505 01:54:59,260 --> 01:54:59,940 that rose. 1506 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,040 What about high school is working on? They have a seat, but they're working on it. 1507 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:12,660 I'm the active shooter training that was in your report for next month. Is that going to include the schools? 1508 01:55:13,060 --> 01:55:16,760 Or is it just within the department? With us only just within this. 1509 01:55:17,780 --> 01:55:24,480 Right. So the second part of schools is offering community activities within schools. 1510 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:29,360 We've had the police department in fire department in public works presence with the 1511 01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:34,660 assistant with a crosswalk after school activities, graduation ceremonies, 1512 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:40,380 participation, breakfast, wasana event, school field trips, and of course public works 1513 01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:42,220 this is with the light up efforts. 1514 01:55:42,820 --> 01:55:48,360 A regular discussion between Northeastern school district and charter schools that is ongoing 1515 01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:56,740 continuous effort, and then the use of staff as mentors and volunteers, staff does participate 1516 01:55:56,740 --> 01:56:03,780 in school activities, I believe it's more fire and PD, and then graduation events as well. 1517 01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:11,360 Another cornerstone that was adopted within the Strategic Plan was marketing and communications. 1518 01:56:12,220 --> 01:56:18,500 Again, highlighting on the revisions of the website, which have pretty much the launching page that 1519 01:56:18,500 --> 01:56:19,820 has been redesigned. 1520 01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:21,820 We've added some features in that. 1521 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,180 We also created an Instagram account that runs 1522 01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:27,200 concurrent with our Facebook account. 1523 01:56:27,740 --> 01:56:30,680 We launched text my guv with as a direct communication 1524 01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,820 with staff during business hours. 1525 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:35,900 And it's a texting communication. 1526 01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:41,040 Social media ads, which help promote our events, 1527 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,480 where we pay for certain ads to get boosted 1528 01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,120 and go to the expanded surrounding areas. 1529 01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:50,200 So, it's not just limited to hearing when pressed. 1530 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,200 The next initiative was the redesigned 1531 01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:58,840 in production of the city's newsletter. 1532 01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,120 That was initially adopted to be completed in 2022. 1533 01:57:03,260 --> 01:57:05,080 However, that got pushed to 2023, 1534 01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:08,240 with focusing on the efforts of the city webpage 1535 01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,780 and the new messaging text mic of program launch. 1536 01:57:12,260 --> 01:57:13,900 So, we are currently working on that. 1537 01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,680 Staff is working on beginning 1538 01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:19,560 and March working on designing the covers 1539 01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:26,120 for each of the newsletters, and then also working on a new template for the newsletter, and 1540 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:31,780 then we will be researching the cost for in-house productions, similar to shirts, not 1541 01:57:31,780 --> 01:57:32,440 not as big. 1542 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,840 I will say that, but just producing it in-house. 1543 01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,380 How's that name of that city in the same city? 1544 01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:40,820 They did shrink through. 1545 01:57:41,060 --> 01:57:42,180 Yeah, it is smaller. 1546 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,520 Cost of being, that's what they told me. 1547 01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:52,460 So we're gathering data on that and looking at how we would manage the sales of ads to help 1548 01:57:52,460 --> 01:57:55,540 offset the cost of that. 1549 01:57:56,100 --> 01:58:00,940 And then one of the things that we're tossing around is eventually, even whether we do it 1550 01:58:00,940 --> 01:58:06,880 in a house or not, is naming, because that came up too within the strategic plan, giving the 1551 01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,520 newsletter a name. 1552 01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,980 Also waiting for us newsletter is good. 1553 01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:16,460 We thought it was. 1554 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:22,460 Let me ask you one quick question before we move on. 1555 01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,380 I know that we've got somebody who is a social media person. 1556 01:58:27,620 --> 01:58:29,320 That's part of their job now, right? 1557 01:58:29,580 --> 01:58:31,760 Is it a percentage of the job? 1558 01:58:32,020 --> 01:58:32,060 Yeah. 1559 01:58:32,060 --> 01:58:32,640 A percentage. 1560 01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:38,420 So I'm just going to suggest that perhaps we look into 1561 01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:45,260 getting that person trained, there's all kinds of stuff available through through this 1562 01:58:45,260 --> 01:58:52,480 the TMLN on, because I can post stuff on Facebook all day long. That is not what 1563 01:58:52,480 --> 01:59:00,440 this job should be. This job should be knowing how to use those social media outlets to 1564 01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:08,400 do things, to promote the city and what people don't understand and I certainly 1565 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:14,960 don't understand it. It isn't taking a picture and putting it on Instagram and isn't posting 1566 01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:22,300 something on Facebook. That is not what that social media coordinator should be doing. And 1567 01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:29,480 if the person that we hired doesn't have the experience in background to know how to do that job, 1568 01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:37,200 then we need to get them trained to do that job. Because this is an incredibly important part of just 1569 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:43,440 being able to get our information out using that avenue. 1570 01:59:43,660 --> 01:59:44,060 Correct. 1571 01:59:44,420 --> 01:59:46,080 So we are members of Tamio. 1572 01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:48,260 And so that's where we're going to take 1573 01:59:48,260 --> 01:59:51,160 the right acronym, which is the Texas 1574 01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:54,260 Minister of Public Information Officers Association. 1575 01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,820 So we are doing a lot of training through them as well. 1576 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,720 And that is really the avenue to do it because of the legalities involved with social media. 1577 02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:13,300 So, along with marketing and communications, we have the branding and signage for the city. 1578 02:00:14,660 --> 02:00:19,760 We've really come up with the branding of the colors that we're previously used. 1579 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:27,440 We've identified those numbers, and we're continuing to move forward to only utilize those colors with any publications of the city. 1580 02:00:28,420 --> 02:00:35,120 We've redesigned the business cards, we have the sign, the city sign, the city sign within City Hall. 1581 02:00:35,620 --> 02:00:42,200 And we are looking at purchasing one for here in the chambers as well to replace the board. 1582 02:00:44,300 --> 02:00:46,460 Do you go into the city museum? 1583 02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:47,220 Yes. 1584 02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,020 Don't be getting rid of it. 1585 02:00:49,020 --> 02:00:50,500 No, we're going to save it. 1586 02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:56,520 And then, of course, in the upcoming months, we'll be looking at redesigning the letterhead, the email signatures, 1587 02:00:57,120 --> 02:01:05,560 and then, of course, once the digital message boards get installed, then we'll be moving forward with that too. 1588 02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,980 So our next steps, because we are at the end of the process with the strategic plan, 1589 02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:20,720 some of them will go further into 2023, is really, you know, what is the next step Council wants to give direction for future planning, 1590 02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:26,880 begin the process for RFP for consultant to work on the development of a comprehensive 1591 02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:33,500 master economic master plan with EDC or just continuing with creating a strategic plan 1592 02:01:33,500 --> 02:01:35,400 for 2023-2026. 1593 02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:37,940 I have a question. 1594 02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:46,480 I'm going back to the very first page where you were talking about staffing and interiors 1595 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:52,240 But what needs to be done now to I don't know 1596 02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,520 It's the next item. I 1597 02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:20,140 mean, are you looking for direction? Yes, well, obviously we would like you to get an 1598 02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:26,340 conference of economic master plan. That would be a good thing. And I think that and I don't 1599 02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:31,060 know of everybody agrees, but I think the strategic plan was an excellent idea. Then COVID 1600 02:02:31,060 --> 02:02:36,980 happened. And so some of the stuff didn't get done. And I think that it only makes sense to 1601 02:02:38,460 --> 02:02:45,580 continue the strategic plan, creating it, extending through 26 or whatever, and every all want to do. 1602 02:02:45,580 --> 02:02:49,040 Do we make a comprehensive to include WDC? 1603 02:02:49,500 --> 02:02:54,420 I think that it is, I think we need a economic master plan. 1604 02:02:54,980 --> 02:03:00,000 And I think obviously, WEDC has a big old chunk of our tax dollars, 1605 02:03:00,380 --> 02:03:05,580 and that needs to be part of any decisions moving forward spending money. 1606 02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:09,980 I think that as Rafael said, we're going to talk about a pool. 1607 02:03:10,460 --> 02:03:15,380 Let's, WEDC needs to be part of that plan because they've got a big bucket of cash 1608 02:03:15,380 --> 02:03:23,200 and we need to find out if it makes sense and if that fits within their required, you know, 1609 02:03:24,220 --> 02:03:31,000 dictates of how they can use money, then I think, I think WDC needs to be in everything we do 1610 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:35,920 when we talk about spending money. I think when we go to a agenda item that's going to be coming 1611 02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:42,500 up soon about, about light up. That is a WDC thing and it needs to be part of it. 1612 02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:49,780 And the big plus is they're the ones that are in contact with all the drivers all the economic 1613 02:03:49,780 --> 02:03:59,140 drivers. So without their input the plane would be lacking the economic plan. 1614 02:03:59,140 --> 02:04:04,320 Economic plan would be. And I guess that's what I'd like you know. So what do you see is a different 1615 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:13,680 I'm just treating an economic plan and because there are, I don't know if they call them strategic plans, 1616 02:04:13,980 --> 02:04:16,680 but there are cities who could a master plan together. 1617 02:04:16,780 --> 02:04:22,500 We start with the master plan, from the master plan, we get a portion of it and make a strategic 1618 02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,240 on the immediate goals that we want to meet. 1619 02:04:25,420 --> 02:04:28,280 Remember that the strategic plan is going to be a five or seven year plan. 1620 02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:33,320 And from there, we're going to get the one year performance goals measurements that we're 1621 02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:40,060 trying to reach, or two years, and we'll put them in whatever packages you all want, and 1622 02:04:40,060 --> 02:04:46,180 some of them will be three months or six months, but that's where we start with this, in my opinion. 1623 02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:55,380 Yeah, but if you go to a city, but let's say live oak and ask them, did you do a master plan? 1624 02:04:55,620 --> 02:04:59,880 And they would say yes, they would say it costs $150,000. 1625 02:05:00,270 --> 02:05:09,290 Now, I don't know where that fits into. Like you got a master plan. The economic master plan is not that, right? 1626 02:05:09,670 --> 02:05:12,730 It's this economic plan is something different. 1627 02:05:14,350 --> 02:05:24,670 I think it ties in together, mayor, depends. It's kind of like the RFP that we're going to do right now is what you want to put into it to meet the needs of your community. 1628 02:05:24,670 --> 02:05:32,310 you know I'm saying for my my opinion here we've got we we are at the point where 1629 02:05:32,770 --> 02:05:38,450 the 110 acre development that we had west I mean it should me south of 1630 02:05:38,450 --> 02:05:43,830 Walsham okay from the CCU's and on CCU's which is the Liding Industrial 1631 02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:48,310 Warehouses that is pretty much a complete project you have one more item to 1632 02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:53,250 discuss this evening inside the executive session so that's complete but we also 1633 02:05:53,250 --> 02:05:59,770 have 67 acres that are on the market right now. So we need to know what are we going to do, 1634 02:05:59,870 --> 02:06:06,650 what's the plan with those? How does all this fall in and then it all ties in to our operation 1635 02:06:06,650 --> 02:06:12,910 of where we're going and what we're going to do? You know, we might turn into, I know this sounds 1636 02:06:12,910 --> 02:06:18,850 being a little sarcastic, but at the same time, if you go down winding way, winding way, 1637 02:06:18,850 --> 02:06:21,450 where we had the golf lane right now that's being 1638 02:06:21,450 --> 02:06:25,330 restructed again, maybe some of that development on the other 1639 02:06:25,330 --> 02:06:30,730 side might be linked to some kind of golf cart lanes or 1640 02:06:30,730 --> 02:06:34,190 walking trails or something else that ties in to that 1641 02:06:34,190 --> 02:06:38,250 development. You know, some of the improvements that are tied 1642 02:06:38,250 --> 02:06:42,670 in with with Walsham with tech stock, you know, like for 1643 02:06:42,670 --> 02:06:47,550 us, we already paid 95% of our streets, but what have we 1644 02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:53,530 done the last time text I did an improvement was 11 years ago at the Dillon Mill in Overlay. 1645 02:06:54,290 --> 02:06:59,410 How do we connect all that to the new development that they're bringing on top? 1646 02:06:59,870 --> 02:07:01,510 Where are we going with this? 1647 02:07:01,910 --> 02:07:07,650 And that gives us marching orders, do we need more manpower for public safety, do we need more 1648 02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:09,310 manpower for public works? 1649 02:07:10,330 --> 02:07:16,750 It's all ties in together and then from there we set up our goals, our performance measures 1650 02:07:16,750 --> 02:07:23,570 on whatever increments you want, whether you want them on 30 days, 60 day, 90 days or 1651 02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:25,310 or year or six months. 1652 02:07:25,890 --> 02:07:29,210 That's what I think this is important for us. 1653 02:07:29,690 --> 02:07:34,830 And we've been talking about it for several years, but I think we're at the point where we 1654 02:07:34,830 --> 02:07:40,210 did the three years of teaching plan, now we've got to get ready for the real thing. 1655 02:07:41,010 --> 02:07:43,470 We've proven to y'all that we can do it. 1656 02:07:43,470 --> 02:07:48,610 You know, the newsletter was the number one source of communication to everybody here. 1657 02:07:48,630 --> 02:07:50,270 We know that. 1658 02:07:50,690 --> 02:07:51,210 We know that. 1659 02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:55,250 And we put that one at the back burner because we're going to have to be very cautious 1660 02:07:55,250 --> 02:07:59,510 and follow every step we take how we're going to improve our newsletter. 1661 02:08:00,270 --> 02:08:04,630 You know, I know that right now we contract that out on their ads. 1662 02:08:04,770 --> 02:08:06,890 We're going to look at it from our side if we can do that. 1663 02:08:07,290 --> 02:08:11,750 But do we believe that one part time employee or two part time employees 1664 02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:16,690 are going to put all that together, or is it going to take more manpower to do that when 1665 02:08:16,690 --> 02:08:23,530 we start really printing this thing out. Or is the population changing that they don't 1666 02:08:23,530 --> 02:08:30,210 need to newsletter anymore as you saw three years ago, I got to understand we don't 1667 02:08:30,210 --> 02:08:34,610 even alley garbage pick up either. Oh, I got your tenure contract is coming right now. But 1668 02:08:34,610 --> 02:08:39,750 what I'm trying to say is we just need some kind of guidance of what we're going there. 1669 02:08:43,610 --> 02:08:48,870 And so I understand it, so if I'm looking at these bullets, I understand the first bullet. 1670 02:08:49,170 --> 02:08:53,410 Why don't we go to the EDC and ask them to do a comprehensive master plan? 1671 02:08:53,890 --> 02:08:57,330 Based on what you just said, what's your recommendation to the council to do next? 1672 02:08:57,810 --> 02:09:03,650 I would say that you get me whether it's a resolution in larger cities, y'all pass a resolution. 1673 02:09:04,150 --> 02:09:05,310 And I take it to them. 1674 02:09:05,570 --> 02:09:07,650 Or you're doing discussing that and I take it to them. 1675 02:09:07,650 --> 02:09:12,210 I just, yes, do a comprehensive economic master plan. 1676 02:09:12,630 --> 02:09:14,490 And in larger cities, they pass a resolution 1677 02:09:14,490 --> 02:09:17,490 and I take it and deliver it and they answer to it. 1678 02:09:17,510 --> 02:09:19,750 If you're verbally, then they don't. 1679 02:09:19,930 --> 02:09:21,670 Everything in writing works a little better. 1680 02:09:24,170 --> 02:09:28,530 OK, and I guess I would, I need to better understand 1681 02:09:28,530 --> 02:09:33,250 what the product called a comprehensive economic plan is. 1682 02:09:33,310 --> 02:09:36,070 Now that we discussed it, we can go do some research 1683 02:09:36,070 --> 02:09:37,990 and bring you different packages 1684 02:09:37,990 --> 02:09:41,230 of what, you know, what is it that you want to build out of it? 1685 02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:56,250 So I think that just from my experience, what we're looking at is to take the dynamic that we have now, which is basically going to the Manhattan Hand and saying, please may we have some more porridge. 1686 02:09:57,110 --> 02:09:59,970 And saying, we don't want to do that anymore. We want you. 1687 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:10,120 We want these things, and we want you to be part of funding these things. And we're going to kind of, kind of, kind of, say ear ears are ideas. 1688 02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:15,280 Here's the reason we want to pull. And we want to figure out how to pay for a pull, and we want you all to be part of that. 1689 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:18,100 We want to, do we want, whatever it is. 1690 02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:19,200 Whatever the plan is. 1691 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:20,560 Whatever the plan is. 1692 02:10:21,260 --> 02:10:27,620 All right. I may be on the only one here, but I need to understand what that document does. 1693 02:10:27,620 --> 02:10:34,320 we will work, and we will bring you back by the next meeting, a couple of proposals. 1694 02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:35,960 I'm not lying in that line. 1695 02:10:36,780 --> 02:10:44,660 I can tell you what I heard you say was what I typically hear when a city does a master 1696 02:10:44,660 --> 02:10:45,200 plan. 1697 02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:46,140 Yes, sir. 1698 02:10:46,140 --> 02:10:47,600 That's what I heard you say. 1699 02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:53,880 When you're talking about, you know, now I don't know what the master, I know kind of 1700 02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:56,580 what a master plan is, which is what I think you told us. 1701 02:10:56,580 --> 02:11:02,380 I don't know, and you come back and tell us what a economic master plan, what is it, how 1702 02:11:02,380 --> 02:11:03,120 is that different? 1703 02:11:03,300 --> 02:11:07,560 That's what I need to know, and I'm sure the rest of the council does, what's the difference 1704 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:15,720 because in my senses, and I don't know this, that the city of whatever, LIBO, covers whatever, 1705 02:11:17,020 --> 02:11:23,080 doesn't go to their EDC or they have something equivalent and say, providing master plan. 1706 02:11:23,080 --> 02:11:27,580 And they might do an economic mess, whatever that is, but they're not going to come back 1707 02:11:27,580 --> 02:11:28,100 and do a mess. 1708 02:11:28,300 --> 02:11:38,780 So it seems to me that my concept of a master plan is on us and I know we sort of did it 1709 02:11:38,780 --> 02:11:43,840 for lack of a better word on the cheap with the strategic plan that we did. 1710 02:11:44,860 --> 02:11:46,160 I just need to understand. 1711 02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,200 Let us work on something. 1712 02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:50,860 We will bring you back some suggestions. 1713 02:11:50,860 --> 02:11:59,330 Okay. And then we can word it whatever the council decides to word it. But overall it's 1714 02:12:00,350 --> 02:12:05,730 goals for the future of where we want to be. And okay, you know, how we're going to get there. 1715 02:12:08,180 --> 02:12:09,840 Perfect. Thank you, sir. 1716 02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:15,960 We're information to follow. I understand that. Yes, sir. You got it. 1717 02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:22,440 I'm going to go up the trend of one because apparently that one I have may be wrong. 1718 02:12:23,380 --> 02:12:30,160 City Council review discuss a may act on consideration on a request for consideration services to conduct space, 1719 02:12:31,780 --> 02:12:32,680 spatialization study. 1720 02:12:33,220 --> 02:12:37,660 City Hall is identified in adopted 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 1721 02:12:37,660 --> 02:12:39,280 city of Winchester, TG Plan. 1722 02:12:42,670 --> 02:12:49,170 So, Mayor and Council, we provided for you a very rough draft of an RFP that we have been working on. 1723 02:12:49,170 --> 02:13:00,570 As you can see, it is a very large document because it is a large scope of work, which is going to encompass all of the square footage within city hall, the square footage on the two trailers. 1724 02:13:03,010 --> 02:13:19,150 So within the RFP, basically, just I'm just going to kind of read the first three bullet points or the first two. 1725 02:13:19,150 --> 02:13:25,110 storage and additional employees so as to possibly defer additional construction activities. 1726 02:13:25,630 --> 02:13:31,370 In addition, the consultant may propose automation and electronic or other techniques, 1727 02:13:31,570 --> 02:13:37,750 which may serve to provide efficiency, a file, and storage space within a cost of beneficial 1728 02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:49,130 benefit analysis. The space optimization analyst, excuse me, analysis should evaluate how to 1729 02:13:49,130 --> 02:13:55,170 exists, focus on the city, on city office department and city council chambers, post office 1730 02:13:55,170 --> 02:14:01,130 occupied space needs with consideration for prep or use of tenant occupied space. 1731 02:14:01,850 --> 02:14:08,590 This includes not just workspace, but back room space such as the phone electronic IT 1732 02:14:08,590 --> 02:14:09,730 closets. 1733 02:14:10,270 --> 02:14:16,670 This part of the study would also be where any structural changes such as lofts, wall changes 1734 02:14:16,670 --> 02:14:25,790 and or additions could be proposed. On the second page it starts with the breakdown of the square 1735 02:14:25,790 --> 02:14:28,250 footage that encompasses for each department. 1736 02:14:30,740 --> 02:14:34,240 So for the city secretaries office the total square 1737 02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:42,220 footage is which is city secretary and municipal court. So it's administration and municipal court 1738 02:14:42,220 --> 02:14:50,880 offices, that is at, I want to say it's a thousand, that's a misprint. So it's a thousand square feet. 1739 02:14:53,500 --> 02:14:59,960 Municipal Court, excuse me, municipal finance department, encompasses 426 square. 1740 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,440 Gover激, Police Department encompasses 4,694 square feet. Fire department. This does include the firebase 1741 02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:22,420 so just keep that in mind as a tool, and the dorms. And the dorms. Total square footage of 8,504 team. And then the post office is 173. 1742 02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:29,360 And we also gave a breakdown for the conference rooms and the chambers. 1743 02:15:31,020 --> 02:15:35,620 We're just kind of looking at direction if City Council, because it was a strategic, 1744 02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,860 it is a cornerstone initiative within the strategic plan. 1745 02:15:40,780 --> 02:15:47,920 If Council wants us to move forward with continuing with the RFP process, working with legal, 1746 02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:54,420 this is a special project, and fine-tuning this RFP, and then post-tune it. 1747 02:15:54,760 --> 02:16:00,060 Okay, let me ask just a real simple question here, because I've been through a few of these. 1748 02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:01,540 This is not a cheap process. 1749 02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:04,660 The RFP is not going to be a cheap process process. 1750 02:16:05,820 --> 02:16:07,020 I get that it's necessary. 1751 02:16:07,660 --> 02:16:09,580 I get that we don't have adequate space. 1752 02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:15,460 I get that if we are compared to other municipalities, with the number of people that work 1753 02:16:15,460 --> 02:16:20,800 and blah, blah, blah, blah. We are not going to have adequate space for the people that work to do their job. 1754 02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:27,640 But there is one pie and there is only a certain number of slices of it. 1755 02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:31,560 And I think the council needs to make a hard decision. 1756 02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:34,500 Is the pool everything we care about? 1757 02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:38,960 Because we don't have the money to do a whole bunch of stuff. 1758 02:16:38,960 --> 02:16:46,780 So if I'm not arguing that this isn't necessary I'm not arguing that I'm not I'm not fighting with you Raphael 1759 02:16:46,780 --> 02:16:56,760 I am I am simply saying that yes, there there was a group of people and decisions were made and this was in a cornerstone of something that really needed to be taken care of 1760 02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:04,760 But do we right now want to say go forward and spend some more money on something that 1761 02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:08,940 Are we realistically going to fix any time in the near future? 1762 02:17:09,700 --> 02:17:18,240 future. What's the cost of the, when you say cost of the RFP? Well, we still need legal 1763 02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:25,040 to review it. Right. And then for us to put it on the, on the newspaper and web pages, just 1764 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:33,400 not even initial cost of doing all that, then when we actually get A. Yes. So make, so, so let's just say 1765 02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:38,720 us $10,000. So for $5,000, I'll tell you, we don't have a space. 1766 02:17:38,780 --> 02:17:42,160 How to go for free? I just said, I just said, we don't like this. 1767 02:17:42,300 --> 02:17:48,140 I mean, so that's what I'm trying to get across to you, and I like your thought because what 1768 02:17:48,140 --> 02:17:52,500 we're going to find out is we don't have a space. Yes, sir. Now, we have a lot of men out here. 1769 02:17:53,060 --> 02:17:57,220 Second thought, which I think may be even more important. What are we going to do about it? Nothing. 1770 02:17:58,220 --> 02:18:03,220 Because I promise you, if we came up here and said, never mind about the pool, 1771 02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:18,180 I'm going to build a second story on City Hall, so Rafael can have a bigger office and the fire department can have more more space and the PD can have more space because they need it and we know that's true and so no pool. 1772 02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:19,840 Do you want to go down that road? 1773 02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:20,720 I don't know. 1774 02:18:20,780 --> 02:18:21,460 And I don't know. 1775 02:18:21,620 --> 02:18:22,900 That's why I asked about the cost. 1776 02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:24,700 Is it worth? 1777 02:18:26,140 --> 02:18:30,360 At least identifying what that number is, realizing we can't fix. 1778 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:33,200 And I don't know what that cost is. 1779 02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:38,460 Well, I mean, we know it's more space with the question than 1780 02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:39,920 as how much is it going to cost. 1781 02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:46,260 Because at some point, you know, if some big company 1782 02:18:46,260 --> 02:18:51,340 moves over to the 67 acres that we have available for anyone out there 1783 02:18:51,340 --> 02:18:55,680 who has got a great location at a wonderful place, if you're listening. 1784 02:18:58,120 --> 02:19:05,260 And that produces, you know, a bunch of sales tax, et cetera. 1785 02:19:06,500 --> 02:19:08,860 Now, maybe the answer is, you wait until that happens. 1786 02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:11,040 Yeah, let's not bet on the go because we don't have that. 1787 02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:16,300 If you, any numbers you get today are going to be obsolete next month. 1788 02:19:16,820 --> 02:19:17,340 Exactly. 1789 02:19:17,960 --> 02:19:25,660 But my point is, I think, from previous experience, just getting to the point where you're 1790 02:19:25,660 --> 02:19:32,900 point where we let an RFP, just getting to that point where we get it out there, we've spent 1791 02:19:32,900 --> 02:19:33,860 a chunk of money. 1792 02:19:33,960 --> 02:19:35,600 How much is it cost to advertise in the paper? 1793 02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:44,560 For this, it probably would be about $3,000. 1794 02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:45,440 $3,000. 1795 02:19:45,880 --> 02:19:49,600 That's just to get the advertisement in the newspaper one time. 1796 02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:59,960 So, I mean, we're talking about a big chunk of money and ultimately, when we, when we float the thing and we get, we get people to come in and give us estimates, it's going to be... 1797 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:05,440 Tens of thousands of dollars to come in here and with their expertise, tell us we don't have enough space. 1798 02:20:06,520 --> 02:20:15,880 And the thing is that this is a real thing. We know there are numbers that exist that you should have 200 square feet and you should have 500 square feet. 1799 02:20:15,980 --> 02:20:21,600 So basically we know that we can go find it. I can Google it and tell you how many square feet you should have. 1800 02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:28,960 But we're just basically going to say, okay, we're going to spend a lot of money to put this out there. 1801 02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:32,440 And then we're going to have people come tell us that they want us to pay them even more 1802 02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:36,500 money to tell us what the answer is, which is, we don't have enough space. 1803 02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:41,020 We don't meet the minimum qualifications for the amount of space we're supposed to have. 1804 02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:44,560 And oh, by the way, I can't tell you what it's going to cost. 1805 02:20:44,620 --> 02:20:46,040 I can just tell you, you don't have enough. 1806 02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:51,040 So, oh, well, let's do another RFP to find out how it's just going to cost us to get the space 1807 02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:51,660 we need. 1808 02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:54,200 So, there's another few hundred thousand dollars. 1809 02:20:54,500 --> 02:20:55,100 You're right. 1810 02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:55,660 I know. 1811 02:20:55,660 --> 02:20:59,440 And we have it on the agenda because it's a lot of man hours. 1812 02:21:00,060 --> 02:21:05,680 Yeah, oh yeah, on top of everything y'all got to do just to freaking meet with these people and get done when needs to get done. 1813 02:21:05,900 --> 02:21:08,840 Well basically just to get to the bottom line and move on here. 1814 02:21:09,380 --> 02:21:12,200 We already know the answers to the question and we don't want to pay for it. 1815 02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:13,300 Somebody can confirm me. 1816 02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:14,120 No right now. 1817 02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:16,860 I don't see what it's what represents her. 1818 02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:17,560 I agree. 1819 02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:18,540 That's what I'm saying. 1820 02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:19,860 We already know the answer. 1821 02:21:20,140 --> 02:21:22,120 So why do we need to pay somebody to tell us? 1822 02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:24,980 We just pot and put it on the next strategic plan. 1823 02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:26,540 Yep, that's new to later day. 1824 02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:27,460 Well, we're fine. 1825 02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:33,680 I will say thank you for this, and I'm saying it because you have looked at what we had asked for, 1826 02:21:33,820 --> 02:21:38,200 and this is what we asked for, so thank you for bringing that to us. 1827 02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:46,620 We're using this in public works in their offices and their place, and then also there's 1828 02:21:46,620 --> 02:21:49,640 an office at the State Center that's not included. 1829 02:21:50,320 --> 02:21:50,540 Right. 1830 02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:53,960 Good catch. Correct. 1831 02:21:54,640 --> 02:22:01,060 All right. Any other discussion or desire to get the, I think the direction is 1832 02:22:01,060 --> 02:22:06,960 cold. All right. City Council review discuss and make 1833 02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:10,460 take action on the budget amendment for allocated funds for upgrade to cities, 1834 02:22:11,340 --> 02:22:13,160 record management program, 1835 02:22:17,110 --> 02:22:18,410 aka laser fish. 1836 02:22:20,710 --> 02:22:25,790 So this is a proposal for our current records management program. It's the software 1837 02:22:25,790 --> 02:22:29,990 and which we hold and store all of our records for the city. 1838 02:22:30,570 --> 02:22:33,090 This is just upgrading it and making it cloud-based. 1839 02:22:33,730 --> 02:22:37,070 Currently we pay about $11,000 annually. 1840 02:22:37,530 --> 02:22:42,410 This upgrade will actually reduce our annual cost by about $3,000. 1841 02:22:43,130 --> 02:22:45,750 And bring it down to a little over $7,000. 1842 02:22:46,570 --> 02:22:54,150 We had to bring it to City Council because the upfront cost for the migration is 26,000. 1843 02:22:58,530 --> 02:22:59,130 So 1844 02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:08,240 this is basically just upgrading the current software that we already have. 1845 02:23:08,540 --> 02:23:10,200 And it's a one time fee. 1846 02:23:12,620 --> 02:23:17,380 So then the next time we renew the contract, it'll be at the $7,000 rate. 1847 02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:18,560 Oh, just do it. 1848 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,040 And so tell, it takes over. 1849 02:23:21,620 --> 02:23:28,200 So what this program is is all of the, because we are initiative is to go digital at 100%. 1850 02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:35,840 percent. It's storing all of those records. It allows us to code each record and set its 1851 02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:41,420 timeline to it. The upgrade also for my understanding what I have been told it allows us 1852 02:23:41,420 --> 02:23:48,060 to create a library which is easily accessible for the public in some cases in research. 1853 02:23:49,580 --> 02:23:55,540 And it eliminates a lot of storage hardware. Yes, it does. This all makes it cloud-based so it gets off 1854 02:23:55,540 --> 02:23:59,940 server. So basically you're looking for some blessing to proceed and back again. 1855 02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:04,860 It's above my spending authority. So we just want to, if you all agree, we'll come back 1856 02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:07,740 with the Result. I'll probably sign it and proceed but bring you my Result. 1857 02:24:07,740 --> 02:24:14,920 We'll ratify it next evening. But the total cost of, with the migration and the annual cost is 1858 02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:22,080 at 33,400, it's $26.00. And at the March meeting, can you come back with any changes that we've 1859 02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:28,100 We're working on a budget amendment already, this is one of them that will be included in it. 1860 02:24:28,260 --> 02:24:31,000 As you recall, we started with the fire ambulance service. 1861 02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:32,480 No, yes, we have a time. 1862 02:24:33,380 --> 02:24:41,360 Without getting too deep into laser fish, do they provide any kind of hard backup? 1863 02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:44,760 Is everything just in the cloud it's done? 1864 02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,780 It is in the cloud, and I would assume they'd back it up. 1865 02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:54,340 There's another cloud in the cloud. 1866 02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:58,740 We're getting rid of the hard copy that's all you know. 1867 02:24:58,980 --> 02:24:59,980 No, remember. 1868 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:09,120 We do have backups here at City Hall. We have one here and one over there and then it goes to the cloud. So we have our internal, but this is taking it to the next level. 1869 02:25:09,180 --> 02:25:11,160 And taking documents off our server. 1870 02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:15,120 Niners, most of the boxes are missing. 1871 02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:19,120 Yes, they did pick up all of the boxes that we had. So. 1872 02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:19,900 Friday, more. 1873 02:25:19,900 --> 02:25:23,240 We're in the process of getting destroyed and scanned. 1874 02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:29,000 So we can move forward. 1875 02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:31,400 Yeah, I feel comfortable with that. Thank you. 1876 02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:38,480 to the Council, we discussed a may act on options for landscaping and drain space maintenance for FYI, 1877 02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:39,480 2324. 1878 02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:44,220 Last year, we brought this item up to go out for bids. 1879 02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:48,200 And we said that we would consider staying with the contract. 1880 02:25:49,340 --> 02:25:56,460 In January, we received a letter from them that we're going to increase it on additional 10%. 1881 02:25:58,540 --> 02:26:04,280 I know that part of me is saying, well, I like to stick with it. 1882 02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:07,880 I do not want to rattle the cage too much, but I think it's time that maybe we should 1883 02:26:07,880 --> 02:26:12,880 go and see what the market has to offer for this operation here. 1884 02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:14,580 Are we always not going to go down? 1885 02:26:14,780 --> 02:26:19,400 I know that, but you know, at least yes. 1886 02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:20,200 and 1887 02:26:22,820 --> 02:26:31,120 the current contract is what is it it is in September of the of 23 yes 1888 02:26:31,120 --> 02:26:37,880 okay so you you're sick the staff wants to go to tell me not to do it but you're 1889 02:26:37,880 --> 02:26:46,480 going to go out for beds or yeah we're in the water I know I agree now that being 1890 02:26:46,480 --> 02:26:49,580 because this has happened before. 1891 02:26:53,500 --> 02:26:57,280 I don't want to get the question. 1892 02:26:57,560 --> 02:26:58,180 I might not want it. 1893 02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:01,380 And I taught you that, don't ever ask a question. 1894 02:27:01,540 --> 02:27:02,240 You don't know the answer. 1895 02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:03,960 We could look into that. 1896 02:27:04,460 --> 02:27:04,900 We did it. 1897 02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:06,680 We analyzed it about seven years ago. 1898 02:27:06,880 --> 02:27:07,560 Eight years ago. 1899 02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:08,760 We could look at it again. 1900 02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:15,430 But like I said, it is a little hesitation. 1901 02:27:16,130 --> 02:27:17,970 But I got to bring it to you all and let you all. 1902 02:27:17,970 --> 02:27:19,070 City 1903 02:27:22,590 --> 02:27:26,130 Council reviewed, discussing the May Act on San Antonio Express to use Northeast 1904 02:27:26,130 --> 02:27:27,250 Harold distribution. 1905 02:27:27,610 --> 02:27:28,130 I promise that. 1906 02:27:28,510 --> 02:27:34,930 Because I have had more than one person who does not want the San Antonio Express 1907 02:27:34,930 --> 02:27:35,490 news here. 1908 02:27:38,150 --> 02:27:48,250 In their contact information, they make it, and peer is though you can decide not to have 1909 02:27:48,250 --> 02:27:49,190 that news date. 1910 02:27:50,650 --> 02:27:58,670 I would say the answer has been mixed reviews and I've had more than one person who's not happy 1911 02:27:58,670 --> 02:28:04,710 that they have reached out, they've said they're not going to deliver it, and they still 1912 02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:05,350 deliver it. 1913 02:28:05,610 --> 02:28:11,850 So, I don't know what actions the council or the city can do. 1914 02:28:12,570 --> 02:28:17,730 I don't want to get rid of it because my sense is that there's a whole lot more people 1915 02:28:17,730 --> 02:28:23,270 that wanted than the few that don't. So what can the city, what, what, what a 1916 02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:29,930 thorny does a city have to, for instance, say, at this, I don't know. I'm just 1917 02:28:29,930 --> 02:28:33,990 telling you this dude, right here. What is this even our, our business? 1918 02:28:34,510 --> 02:28:38,730 Because there's a citizens who have, of course, I understand that, but I mean, we 1919 02:28:38,730 --> 02:28:41,670 don't have, we can't control. We don't know that. We're going to ask this guy 1920 02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:49,490 I'm asking if what authority, what the power does the city have to enforce that or 1921 02:28:49,490 --> 02:28:49,870 force whatever. 1922 02:28:49,890 --> 02:28:54,970 So the delivery of non-subscription, the delivery of non-subscription newspapers 1923 02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:59,810 is a highly protected first amendment activity. 1924 02:29:00,710 --> 02:29:07,390 And to the extent the city wants to pass any regulations or ordinances, it cannot prohibit 1925 02:29:07,390 --> 02:29:12,970 delivery of the people, but it can target, you know, a negative 1926 02:29:15,110 --> 02:29:17,610 externalities of the delivery. So if you have a lot of papers 1927 02:29:17,610 --> 02:29:23,050 moving out, there's literal ordinances. It really depends on what 1928 02:29:23,050 --> 02:29:28,190 city wants to do, but we do have to tread carefully on not directly 1929 02:29:28,190 --> 02:29:33,210 targeting or prohibiting the delivery of non-strish and being okay. So just 1930 02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:36,330 because this is the question that was asked me, and I'm sure I think I know 1931 02:29:36,330 --> 02:29:39,250 answer it, but I'm still going to ask the question. 1932 02:29:39,350 --> 02:29:39,970 You go ahead. 1933 02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:43,870 A person said, I don't want that newspaper on my property. 1934 02:29:45,490 --> 02:29:50,590 And the paper has said, okay, I won't put that newspaper on your property. 1935 02:29:50,890 --> 02:29:53,270 And then the newspaper shows up. 1936 02:29:53,550 --> 02:29:55,030 Is that lettering? 1937 02:29:59,060 --> 02:29:59,960 That is- 1938 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,800 It's an interesting question to answer. If I threw it in the street, it would be literary. 1939 02:30:05,660 --> 02:30:12,460 If I took it off my property, no matter how I felt about it being there and threw it under the street, I am literary. 1940 02:30:13,180 --> 02:30:20,920 That's a good question, especially if they did expressly not, say they don't want the paper. 1941 02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:28,660 I would have to look in that a little bit more, but I would say it would be pretty hard to determine 1942 02:30:28,660 --> 02:30:33,900 what's litter and what's actually delivered paper when you're just looking at it in that kind of 1943 02:30:33,900 --> 02:30:34,180 fashion. 1944 02:30:34,180 --> 02:30:36,180 And then who do you go after? 1945 02:30:36,540 --> 02:30:38,980 The person who threw it in your yard or the newspaper? 1946 02:30:39,580 --> 02:30:41,900 I mean, the newspaper is going to say, I didn't give it to you. 1947 02:30:42,300 --> 02:30:44,440 No, that's what they probably will in the sand. 1948 02:30:44,460 --> 02:30:46,020 Of course, they will end up saying that. 1949 02:30:46,020 --> 02:30:51,060 And the fact is, at what point do we just say, we're not going to spend any more money on this. 1950 02:30:51,300 --> 02:30:52,140 Go throw it away. 1951 02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:54,880 Now, the council wants to use it for your cat letter box. 1952 02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:55,540 Are that? 1953 02:30:55,900 --> 02:31:10,020 But the council wants us looking to options on possibly coming up with an ordinance to maybe assist in that specific issue that you just brought up. 1954 02:31:10,020 --> 02:31:11,700 look, but it's very hard to regulate. 1955 02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:18,900 That's like the quintessential first amendment activity. 1956 02:31:19,260 --> 02:31:23,440 Okay, let me ask you a question, and I agree with you, I thought lettering we could cover that way, 1957 02:31:23,500 --> 02:31:31,360 just for kicks. But bottom line is you got a handful of people saying they don't want to pay for 1958 02:31:31,360 --> 02:31:37,180 correct? Yes. Maybe how many? I don't know. But I can guarantee just like you said, 1959 02:31:37,180 --> 02:31:43,460 there's going to be 20 times as many that want the paper, and why should we spend money 1960 02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:49,640 to work out something, I don't know, this is ridiculous, why we're even discussing this. 1961 02:31:49,660 --> 02:31:50,440 So let's not talk about it. 1962 02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:51,900 Somebody talk to him about it. 1963 02:31:51,940 --> 02:31:53,200 I'm just wondering how we got through it. 1964 02:31:53,580 --> 02:31:53,680 It isn't. 1965 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:54,040 It isn't. 1966 02:31:54,500 --> 02:31:59,100 It is important to certain people, so the term ridiculous is probably not a problem. 1967 02:32:01,600 --> 02:32:07,120 But what I said was, I'll ask, what I'm hearing is, it's really hard to do that. 1968 02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:11,840 Yeah, and so we would have to spend we the city would have to spend a 1969 02:32:12,820 --> 02:32:17,760 My name is a amount of time to get a attorney to give us a 1970 02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:23,640 Four nests that they're probably would be hard to enforce or 1971 02:32:23,640 --> 02:32:29,540 Could be we could be sued because it was unconstitutional and then we spent some more lawyer dollars 1972 02:32:29,540 --> 02:32:33,020 She's been going to the lawyers. Why not just a phone call from the city? 1973 02:32:34,520 --> 02:32:40,320 manager to nor of these terrible management to see what they can do. 1974 02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:41,920 I get it. 1975 02:32:44,680 --> 02:32:46,020 So we've done it. 1976 02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:51,040 So I guess my next action was I'll maybe I'll start making some fun. 1977 02:32:51,160 --> 02:32:56,140 I mean, like I said, like anything else, people have come to me as income to you and 1978 02:32:56,140 --> 02:32:57,600 said, here's my problem. 1979 02:32:57,600 --> 02:33:05,540 And I will tell you, just for the sake of interesting conversation, I did have a person who didn't want it. 1980 02:33:06,200 --> 02:33:10,420 They were not happy with that. That it was still delivered. 1981 02:33:12,060 --> 02:33:21,660 That person gathered up a lot of papers around their area and placed them in front of my mailbox. 1982 02:33:21,660 --> 02:33:25,840 Now, all I did, which is what most of us is throw it away. 1983 02:33:26,340 --> 02:33:26,600 So anyway. 1984 02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:29,480 So my point is there are people who are passionate about this. 1985 02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:32,260 So I hope you put it in recycling and didn't throw it away. 1986 02:33:32,660 --> 02:33:40,980 So where I feel we are now, I don't think the council wants to spend additional lawyer time to worry about this. 1987 02:33:41,300 --> 02:33:43,960 The city manager and I will continue to work on. 1988 02:33:43,980 --> 02:33:45,580 We got to pull the pay for it. 1989 02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:46,820 Okay, that's fine. 1990 02:33:47,360 --> 02:33:54,020 So basically what happened was this person went in the trust fast on everybody's yarns took their paper and put it straight down 1991 02:33:54,020 --> 02:33:56,180 Don't much paper. We've got them off the street 1992 02:33:57,560 --> 02:34:06,920 And it doesn't make a difference. My point is there are people who pass in about that. So actually if I take all the papers that I have stepped in my yard 1993 02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:11,120 I can bring them to your house and you'll throw them away for me. Is that what you're telling us? 1994 02:34:11,500 --> 02:34:14,100 Thank you. We'll call me. I'll go pick them up. I'm pretty sure. 1995 02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:19,280 between Raphael and I. Yeah, we will. I think you are great people. So good. So. You are truly 1996 02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:22,980 here. You've got to get a list of the people that don't want it. So you can go right on third. 1997 02:34:23,620 --> 02:34:30,500 I've done it before. Let's go. I know where we are. And so the next item is also mine. 1998 02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:39,160 As many know, I do a coffee with the mayor. There's been some very good ideas that have come 1999 02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:41,860 that this I believe is a good idea, 2000 02:34:43,980 --> 02:34:52,320 a place to have naming a non-employed volunteer to coordinate 2001 02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:59,660 volunteers within the city, because I know, and I know people here know, there are lots of people who would want to help. 2002 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,800 Do whatever. It might be light at this. It might be Fourth of July. It might be. 2003 02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:04,740 Do you pick it up, Newspapers? 2004 02:35:04,740 --> 02:35:05,540 I do, Newspapers. 2005 02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:16,200 And so what I would like to do is create this non-employed volunteer coordinator, have that person have 2006 02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:24,160 an email that's associated with the city, and then that person be the person who would bring in 2007 02:35:24,160 --> 02:35:53,540 or have the information and then if there's an event like light up or for the job, whatever would do the coordinating of, okay, is anyone out here who wants to help with light up or wants to help with the pool or whatever, and so would be a volunteer position, I do have a person in mind that I have reached out to, who said that she would be willing to do us, she does have actually interesting and have some, 2008 02:35:53,540 --> 02:36:03,200 of promotion experience, it would be a volunteer position, so what I'd like to do is establish 2009 02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:09,800 that position with an email and the person who I have reached out to is Anita Koch and 2010 02:36:09,800 --> 02:36:15,040 she is a resident who has said she would be willing to serve in that capacity. 2011 02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:28,100 And she's higher than she did not have to see how the community, and then once that person gets the information like a position, a job, a written, what they're going to do, 2012 02:36:28,100 --> 02:36:34,700 they're going to interface with the different departments, because these are all different departments that are doing the different items. 2013 02:36:34,700 --> 02:36:40,080 Right. If you get that email, I sent you about the, uh, the, uh, 2014 02:36:40,080 --> 02:36:47,120 placards for the house for, uh, no, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, 2015 02:36:47,320 --> 02:36:52,060 that can be more of an ideal situation for this. No, I, that's why I said, 2016 02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:58,700 I think there are several. So Raphael, can you please get with HR, Natalia, 2017 02:36:58,740 --> 02:37:03,800 whoever's doing that now? And come up with some kind of job description. So we can take a look at 2018 02:37:03,800 --> 02:37:10,580 as soon as possible and move forward with creating the position and maybe talk to legal and make sure that 2019 02:37:10,580 --> 02:37:16,360 that we're cool with everything we're doing because giving somebody a city email got it got to make 2020 02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:23,320 sure we're dotting our eyes and crossing our tees. And I would say my perception of that would be 2021 02:37:23,320 --> 02:37:25,800 It would go through the self-sacrifice. 2022 02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:27,300 Sure. 2023 02:37:27,660 --> 02:37:29,100 And it would be a list of duties. 2024 02:37:29,860 --> 02:37:30,100 I'm sorry. 2025 02:37:30,320 --> 02:37:31,140 A list of duties. 2026 02:37:31,960 --> 02:37:32,560 Not a job. 2027 02:37:33,900 --> 02:37:34,200 Well, yeah. 2028 02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:34,940 Thank you. 2029 02:37:35,140 --> 02:37:35,800 OK, a job. 2030 02:37:36,260 --> 02:37:36,540 But yeah. 2031 02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:39,380 I would say through the city manager, not through the city secretary, 2032 02:37:40,480 --> 02:37:42,800 because when it would go through, if they have issues, 2033 02:37:42,960 --> 02:37:45,180 they need to get with a particular director. 2034 02:37:46,480 --> 02:37:46,860 I can work. 2035 02:37:47,240 --> 02:37:47,460 OK. 2036 02:37:47,540 --> 02:37:48,360 I can work with them. 2037 02:37:48,560 --> 02:37:48,660 All right. 2038 02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:51,400 I just want approval of the concept. 2039 02:37:51,820 --> 02:37:53,300 I love the concept. 2040 02:38:00,940 --> 02:38:23,240 This does go along those that concept is we would like to on the first of March and the fourth of March have and this would be a city event, so we, you know, depending on where we are with this coordinator position, and the city would mail out something to residents. 2041 02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:28,100 to encourage them to come to two meetings, one would be on the fourth of March and the 2042 02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:28,320 evening. 2043 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:35,540 I'm sorry, first of March and the evening, which is Wednesday and a mid-morning on 2044 02:38:35,540 --> 02:38:36,420 the fourth of March. 2045 02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:42,400 For the purpose of having people come and identify themselves as someone who might want 2046 02:38:42,400 --> 02:38:48,280 to volunteer with the city and then provide some information regarding what they have 2047 02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:49,380 in my field of service. 2048 02:38:49,380 --> 02:38:51,920 City. So start it with that. 2049 02:38:52,260 --> 02:38:57,480 Anyone. Cool. Great. That is all. Awesome idea. City Council will discuss to make 2050 02:38:57,480 --> 02:39:02,440 a and may act on assignment of responsibilities and duties for when Chris light up seasons 2051 02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:09,860 and events. And what I love is that followed your volunteer thing because basically we've 2052 02:39:09,860 --> 02:39:19,360 discussed with people throughout the community about the necessity of creating a better 2053 02:39:19,360 --> 02:39:29,760 way to deal with light up here. I think one of the suggestions was having more people volunteering 2054 02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:36,220 to help with things. I think one of the other things that was discussed is perhaps determining 2055 02:39:36,220 --> 02:39:44,860 who has responsibility to do what. And figuring out what organizations are best suited to do 2056 02:39:44,860 --> 02:39:53,180 part of that entire event. And I think that one of the things, I think that this is a big giant subject 2057 02:39:53,180 --> 02:39:59,960 and we're not sure where any one thing is going to go yet. But I think one of the suggestions that was brought up, which I 2058 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,980 One hundred percent in support of is punching this department for the purpose of having a public meeting, where people can come up and tell us what they think needs to happen for this event, which has become. And I think always has been the win-gress event. This is a city event, this is made our city, this is the thing that we are known for, and we need to make it better, and we need to make it more inclusive. 2059 02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:39,040 And I think that beginning with Parks and Rec, allowing them to listen to what the community wants. 2060 02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:48,900 Listen to how this needs to evolve to include and be more inclusive of the other organizations within the city is the first step to make that happen. 2061 02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:59,580 And I think that what we're going to probably find out is that the people that actually actively take part in this year after year. 2062 02:40:59,580 --> 02:41:20,620 And really decorate and really come forward and make this the great event it is are probably going to have an opinion and and one of the opinions that I've heard over and over again is we really need to work on our categories and the reason I can say that their 100% right is when I was 2063 02:41:20,620 --> 02:41:25,900 When Chris wins the president, we've changed the categories because they've been the same forever 2064 02:41:25,900 --> 02:41:32,240 And we did a lot of research and we looked at what different communities had and we 2065 02:41:32,240 --> 02:41:36,780 Changed our we changed the categories and and and and 2066 02:41:36,780 --> 02:41:42,000 And some of them are are good and some of them are Charlie Browniest and not good 2067 02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:47,020 And I think that it will be good to allow the people all the people in the city 2068 02:41:47,020 --> 02:41:55,780 But also the people that really go to bat and make this thing great to tell us where we can go with that in a better direction. 2069 02:41:56,380 --> 02:42:10,040 I also think that and this is something we've heard a lot from people that, again, make this event what it is is having more input on what the actual theme is going to be. 2070 02:42:10,320 --> 02:42:15,620 And that's the perfect thing to bring to Parks and Rec and let them run with that and determine what the citizens want. 2071 02:42:15,620 --> 02:42:22,260 And finally, I think probably the most important thing to this council is getting a handle 2072 02:42:22,260 --> 02:42:29,420 on how we're spending, because we don't have a real live budget process for this whole event, 2073 02:42:29,880 --> 02:42:30,580 and we should. 2074 02:42:30,900 --> 02:42:34,040 We're spending a lot of money, and maybe we're not spending it wisely. 2075 02:42:34,480 --> 02:42:40,880 And I know in the time that the mayor and I talked to a few people about this, one of 2076 02:42:42,420 --> 02:42:50,160 probably I thought really good suggestions was there are better ways to do the map. 2077 02:42:50,920 --> 02:42:56,840 We don't actually, the map doesn't go to print until we've done the voting and that 2078 02:42:56,840 --> 02:43:04,220 costs us a whole lot of money and maybe we can look at having the map done as soon as we 2079 02:43:04,220 --> 02:43:10,600 get the people that apply, therefore everybody who's on the, is going to decorate is 2080 02:43:10,600 --> 02:43:18,220 the map and then push the judging to further down the road and that we can have a QR code 2081 02:43:18,220 --> 02:43:23,100 or something that we can offer so you can go look at the winners but we don't need to have 2082 02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:27,380 a map just for the purpose of showing where the winners are because that map, how much do we 2083 02:43:27,380 --> 02:43:33,300 spend this year at Rafael? A lot, it's a big afternoon, you don't want to say it and I understand. 2084 02:43:33,300 --> 02:43:45,020 But the fact is that Matt costs us more than anything else and if the whole idea of this is to help make money for the volunteer fire department or whatever 2085 02:43:45,020 --> 02:44:00,200 I mean, that's another thing we need to look at is that the whole reason for this event and if that is we're spending way too much money and not making any because we're spending too much and there's ways to save money and ways to make that better and 2086 02:44:00,200 --> 02:44:15,780 Ultimately, I think what I would like to see is that through Parks and Rec, we get the information from the people that live here whose tax dollars were spending to make this happen and find out what they'd like to see it turn into. 2087 02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:26,220 And I'm going to say right now before anybody takes this wrong, nobody wants to stop the women's club from doing the important things they do and always have done. 2088 02:44:26,220 --> 02:44:32,620 like finding the volunteers to do the judging, like being there to greet people when they 2089 02:44:32,620 --> 02:44:38,880 come in for the winner's dinner, like being there to coordinate the meal for the volunteers. 2090 02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:44,800 Now I am going to say, and I said this to the mayor and I said it to you, I don't think they should 2091 02:44:44,800 --> 02:44:54,100 be driving people around. I think the liability of having people driving volunteers around our 2092 02:44:54,100 --> 02:44:59,980 and those people, not being necessarily the greatest drivers, I used to draw. 2093 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:11,460 I think that that's maybe something that we can veer away from and use citizens' patrol or the police can tell us what a better way to do that is. 2094 02:45:11,960 --> 02:45:19,740 I think that it's important that the women's club be vital to making these decisions and be their presence, their presence. 2095 02:45:19,740 --> 02:45:20,320 All right. 2096 02:45:20,560 --> 02:45:26,580 But the decisions need to be made by the city and however the city chooses to designate 2097 02:45:26,580 --> 02:45:30,020 that authority because the city is paying for this. 2098 02:45:30,380 --> 02:45:33,300 And the city, this is important to our city, it's an important event. 2099 02:45:33,580 --> 02:45:40,640 It is what one crest is and we need to make it more of some, we need to make some decisions 2100 02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:45,200 that we can stand behind and we sure as heck need to make some better budgetary decisions. 2101 02:45:45,200 --> 02:46:00,340 I can't follow that, but I would just like to add the, I think that we should wait until the women's club has said they'd like a meeting with the women's club has said that. 2102 02:46:01,360 --> 02:46:03,100 We're not doing anything today. 2103 02:46:03,460 --> 02:46:04,400 We're not doing anything today. 2104 02:46:04,580 --> 02:46:07,680 All I'm saying is we're talking about assigning responsibilities. 2105 02:46:08,640 --> 02:46:13,460 Let's let the women of club tell us what responsibilities they can handle, 2106 02:46:13,460 --> 02:46:17,200 because we all know that as we get more advanced 2107 02:46:17,780 --> 02:46:21,200 that sometimes you can't do as much stuff as you were doing before. 2108 02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:23,720 So let's let them tell us. So are they right? 2109 02:46:24,340 --> 02:46:30,720 I my point is we need to talk to everybody in this community and let them decide 2110 02:46:30,720 --> 02:46:35,100 and through the city manager's office decide how this is going to 2111 02:46:35,100 --> 02:46:36,760 morph into what it needs to become. 2112 02:46:37,420 --> 02:46:40,460 Okay. So there was a follow-up meeting from the 2022 2113 02:46:40,460 --> 02:46:45,740 light up and there were a lot of recommendations, one being that the city needed to meet with the 2114 02:46:45,740 --> 02:46:54,620 women's club and the volunteer fire association to better lay out what each group is doing and also there 2115 02:46:54,620 --> 02:47:01,680 were two commissioners from Parks and Recs there seem to be an agreement and there was discussion 2116 02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:08,660 of things going to Parks and Recs that they haven't maybe taken care of before. So I would think the 2117 02:47:08,660 --> 02:47:15,280 First up is that city meeting with the two groups that have been doing the volunteering over the decades. 2118 02:47:16,820 --> 02:47:23,520 And then once that's done, then Parks and Recs can have a public meeting and have it on their agenda to discuss it. 2119 02:47:23,780 --> 02:47:24,500 I think that's fine. 2120 02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:26,900 I'm just saying it is not with it. 2121 02:47:26,900 --> 02:47:29,420 It's not those two groups that need to make these decisions. 2122 02:47:29,940 --> 02:47:30,800 I want their input. 2123 02:47:30,800 --> 02:47:37,600 I think it's important to have their input, but we need to understand that this is a city of it. 2124 02:47:37,600 --> 02:47:43,420 The city pays for it. The city is in charge. The city cleans it up. The city does everything. 2125 02:47:44,100 --> 02:47:53,740 And we need to walk away from the idea that two little groups of a very small number of people from this city are in control of this event. They're not. 2126 02:47:54,220 --> 02:48:05,600 And I'm sorry. We need to start a new, respect the old. What is it? Silver and Gold or whatever the heck it is? That's important. 2127 02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:10,920 But this is not just like I don't want to go to the EDC and say please can we have some 2128 02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:14,860 porridge we don't need to go to the volunteer fire department and the women's club and say 2129 02:48:14,860 --> 02:48:20,800 please can we do this we need to say everybody please come to the table and we would like you to take 2130 02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:27,900 part in this but we need to decide how that's going to move forward and we don't need to ask 2131 02:48:27,900 --> 02:48:34,560 permission from two very small groups in this city and in determining how we're going to move forward 2132 02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:36,480 And I seconded it. 2133 02:48:36,600 --> 02:48:38,060 It's not a motion, but thank you. 2134 02:48:38,340 --> 02:48:39,180 I appreciate you. 2135 02:48:39,280 --> 02:48:41,220 This is my understanding that both those groups 2136 02:48:41,220 --> 02:48:42,820 would be more than happy and willing to head 2137 02:48:42,820 --> 02:48:43,480 of that conversation. 2138 02:48:43,800 --> 02:48:45,680 So I don't think we're going to get a lot of blowback. 2139 02:48:45,780 --> 02:48:45,860 Right. 2140 02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:47,680 Yeah. 2141 02:48:47,680 --> 02:48:50,300 You'll set up the meetings mayor and then we'll do it. 2142 02:48:50,360 --> 02:48:51,540 Man in the middle. 2143 02:48:51,720 --> 02:48:52,960 The dude in the middle. 2144 02:48:53,160 --> 02:48:54,160 The dude in the middle. 2145 02:48:57,360 --> 02:48:58,020 All right. 2146 02:48:58,380 --> 02:49:02,080 City Council review discuss the meeting and act on renewal 2147 02:49:02,080 --> 02:49:05,840 of the Wind Chris volunteer fire association contract. 2148 02:49:06,320 --> 02:49:09,880 So this is the new contract that we revised last year. 2149 02:49:10,220 --> 02:49:14,460 Yes, there's not any unless Council wants to make some changes to that contract, we're 2150 02:49:14,460 --> 02:49:17,620 just going to bring it back for a resolution in March. 2151 02:49:18,100 --> 02:49:19,760 Are we okay with it? 2152 02:49:19,780 --> 02:49:20,500 Yes, sir. 2153 02:49:20,960 --> 02:49:21,300 Thank you. 2154 02:49:22,220 --> 02:49:23,540 Would you give me a copy of that? 2155 02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:25,300 All right. 2156 02:49:25,720 --> 02:49:26,360 It's 8. 2157 02:49:26,720 --> 02:49:27,220 49. 2158 02:49:27,220 --> 02:49:30,480 And so the Council will be an executive session. 2159 02:49:31,020 --> 02:49:32,560 Councillor, there's right for adjourning. 2160 02:49:32,900 --> 02:49:35,500 The legislation at any time during the course of meetings. 2161 02:49:36,340 --> 02:49:38,360 Discuss any matter, listed below. 2162 02:49:38,820 --> 02:49:41,320 A, percent government vote, five, five, one, zero, seven, one, 2163 02:49:41,620 --> 02:49:43,940 consultation with the attorney discussion on legal issues, 2164 02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:45,880 associated with the NAMBA and Service Contact 2165 02:49:45,880 --> 02:49:47,140 with the Winchrist Fire Department. 2166 02:49:47,540 --> 02:49:50,860 Resume with the Government, five, five, one, zero, seven, four, 2167 02:49:51,240 --> 02:49:53,220 personnel, matter, for discussion of hiring, 2168 02:49:53,220 --> 02:49:59,980 Chris Police, Police Department of Chief of Police, pursuance the police. 2169 02:50:01,600 --> 02:50:11,460 The President, Government 551-087 economic development and 551-071 consultation with the attorney for deliberation discussion on legal issues. 2170 02:50:11,460 --> 02:50:15,560 Associate with Master, Economic, and Senate of Agreement, and RACSBASE, 2171 02:50:15,740 --> 02:50:19,180 Perceo, Government 55107, Transportation with Attorney. 2172 02:50:19,900 --> 02:50:23,180 For deliberation and discussion of legal issues associated with garbage, 2173 02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:25,320 it serves as contract personnel. 2174 02:50:26,220 --> 02:50:32,600 Government, Code 551087, and 551071, Calcitation with Attorney. 2175 02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:34,480 For deliberation and discussion in legal issues, 2176 02:50:34,540 --> 02:50:37,300 associate with King Arthur and Eisenhower Project, 2177 02:50:37,300 --> 02:50:41,040 President, the government, the code 551071, 2178 02:50:41,120 --> 02:50:43,560 consultation with attorney for discussion of Google 2179 02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:45,440 Fiber and Legal Issues associated. 2180 02:50:45,940 --> 02:50:51,000 Pursuing with government code 551 and 074 and 551071, 2181 02:50:52,140 --> 02:50:54,140 consultation with attorney for discussion on legal issues 2182 02:50:54,140 --> 02:50:57,320 associated with renewal of the city manager's contract. 2183 02:50:58,040 --> 02:50:59,300 This is just a question. 2184 02:50:59,700 --> 02:51:04,140 Why can't we have 551071 and bullets underneath? 2185 02:51:04,140 --> 02:51:07,420 what do we have to read five, five, one, zero, seven, one, eighteen tasks. 2186 02:51:07,460 --> 02:51:09,980 As we like to hear you do it. 2187 02:51:10,320 --> 02:51:12,320 Eight fifty one, we'll be adjourned. 2188 02:51:12,620 --> 02:51:14,860 The exact same thing. 2189 02:51:25,260 --> 02:51:28,340 OK, it is nine, fifty, three, 2190 02:51:28,480 --> 02:51:30,320 sending council's back in session. 2191 02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:34,540 We have the next item is the city manager for four. 2192 02:51:36,270 --> 02:51:37,850 Mayor and council members. 2193 02:51:39,070 --> 02:51:45,230 We met you a package and I had a long meeting for every little 2194 02:51:45,230 --> 02:51:53,270 to discuss other than, we had 27 items and as a team we put all our information in there 2195 02:51:53,270 --> 02:51:56,170 and believe we had a successful council meeting tonight. 2196 02:51:57,610 --> 02:51:58,510 I had one question. 2197 02:51:59,450 --> 02:52:04,310 What's the traffic solution signs is that they're writing on them? 2198 02:52:04,550 --> 02:52:09,630 It was under police department but it's as traffic solution signs have arrived and are ready 2199 02:52:09,630 --> 02:52:10,070 to be installed. 2200 02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:12,450 Those are the ones that we have out there, 2201 02:52:12,630 --> 02:52:16,470 speed limits, the 25, the solar panel ones, 2202 02:52:16,610 --> 02:52:19,230 the set 25 miles per hour, 10 miles per hour. 2203 02:52:20,310 --> 02:52:22,550 We're waiting on public works to put them up. 2204 02:52:22,770 --> 02:52:23,470 A little digital. 2205 02:52:23,490 --> 02:52:24,530 We have 25 miles. 2206 02:52:24,850 --> 02:52:25,730 No, no. 2207 02:52:26,090 --> 02:52:28,110 When they say the speed limit that you're driving, 2208 02:52:28,250 --> 02:52:29,970 that's what those are the signs. 2209 02:52:30,350 --> 02:52:32,270 You're going to say 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10. 2210 02:52:32,270 --> 02:52:35,450 If you're going to say a solution too, that's the solution. 2211 02:52:36,110 --> 02:52:38,710 We have a way to say 25 when we stop here. 2212 02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:50,170 I don't even know what to talk about. I'm going. I was going to fire carry today. I'm in a school zone. Our school zone by Roosevelt. A school bus passes me going about 30 to 30. 2213 02:52:50,310 --> 02:53:07,530 I school bus. Oh, y'all zone. On walls. What's it? Not a school bus. It's they put up the science for that it's school zone and people are just flying and I will read down that being said. 2214 02:53:07,530 --> 02:53:11,130 I think we have some, we, the police department, the city 2215 02:53:11,130 --> 02:53:13,410 workers have some authority to stop people. 2216 02:53:13,470 --> 02:53:14,150 Yes, we do. 2217 02:53:14,890 --> 02:53:18,590 And I, you know, I mean, my mind went to, okay, 2218 02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:21,530 if they school, if they school bus, hit somebody 2219 02:53:21,530 --> 02:53:25,710 in a school zone, speeding, I mean, that's just... 2220 02:53:25,710 --> 02:53:26,090 I agree. 2221 02:53:26,510 --> 02:53:29,630 I was, I was in the parking lot, 2222 02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:35,030 mailing something yesterday, and in any, any ISD car, 2223 02:53:35,030 --> 02:53:40,750 with all the markings on it, speeding down the ground, turning into the school. I mean, 2224 02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:46,710 like, I'll do wheels. I can attest to one thing earlier today. I was driving around. 2225 02:53:47,390 --> 02:53:51,110 By the way, this is a city man. Yeah, this is a city man. I'll drive around, 2226 02:53:52,170 --> 02:54:01,790 Cresway coming back, I guess, from east to west. And one of our police officers was park right there 2227 02:54:01,790 --> 02:54:09,550 when Brookest States and there was a school bus that seemed like he was speeding but our police officer 2228 02:54:09,550 --> 02:54:15,050 turned on the lights and I think you know let him know and the bus slowed down and that happened 2229 02:54:15,050 --> 02:54:22,950 literally in front of me. It boggles my mind as school bus. Yes and that is that is that is 2230 02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:24,930 Yeah, I have a authority on one of those. 2231 02:54:25,070 --> 02:54:25,510 Exactly. 2232 02:54:26,030 --> 02:54:27,510 Is it somebody on Google's own? 2233 02:54:27,790 --> 02:54:28,750 It's SAP leaders. 2234 02:54:29,330 --> 02:54:31,570 I just, it's just, it was amazing. 2235 02:54:31,910 --> 02:54:32,170 All right, so. 2236 02:54:32,170 --> 02:54:32,930 No, we're there. 2237 02:54:33,150 --> 02:54:34,650 It's feeding in our school's own. 2238 02:54:34,650 --> 02:54:34,990 Yeah. 2239 02:54:36,050 --> 02:54:37,670 I was just being precise about this. 2240 02:54:37,710 --> 02:54:40,410 Going to get to be a tricky question for the city manager. 2241 02:54:41,170 --> 02:54:42,950 I have a comment for you. 2242 02:54:42,950 --> 02:54:45,030 I really appreciate that. 2243 02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:48,470 That's some repaid you put on your, on your, on your, 2244 02:54:48,470 --> 02:54:55,790 reading that and it covered the majority of information and those are the last four pages 2245 02:54:55,790 --> 02:54:59,950 just kind of glanced over with that summer pretty well covered everything you have. 2246 02:55:01,820 --> 02:55:06,060 All right, general announcements and future agenda items. 2247 02:55:09,430 --> 02:55:18,570 We are going to have, we get a date for that, we want to send these projects, and I'm, we're, 2248 02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:24,550 could buy on this together, is a new member meeting. New resident. New resident, thank you. 2249 02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:25,330 Did we get it? 2250 02:55:26,310 --> 02:55:31,410 No, I think there was, I guess offline, I can send an e-mail to you. 2251 02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:35,710 I think we're going to try to get one of those every quarter. 2252 02:55:37,390 --> 02:55:41,270 And so the fine-tuning period here. 2253 02:55:41,450 --> 02:55:47,850 So the concept would be we have a meeting probably here, people who are new residents can come learn about the city. 2254 02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:51,170 Maybe even show them, go, government, whatever that goes. 2255 02:55:51,170 --> 02:55:51,990 That's my guess. 2256 02:55:51,990 --> 02:55:55,150 Thanks, my God, had the water district here, et cetera, et cetera. 2257 02:55:55,410 --> 02:56:00,710 So March 21st, I'll look at the third, March 3rd, Tuesday of the month. 2258 02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:08,140 I think that's all I have anybody else. 2259 02:56:09,700 --> 02:56:13,220 So we've only been here a little bit, not quite four hours with this. 2260 02:56:13,460 --> 02:56:14,880 So actually I thought this would be later. 2261 02:56:15,160 --> 02:56:20,000 Me too. I lost. I lost a lot of money. I'd like you all know that. 2262 02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:26,640 It was a big agenda. I want to thank the staff for putting all this together and actually you know, I'd like to talk about 2263 02:56:28,520 --> 02:56:29,560 five more 2264 02:56:34,640 --> 02:56:37,020 I think we should all sing a song 2265 02:56:41,900 --> 02:56:42,940 All right 2266 02:56:43,640 --> 02:56:44,160 Second 2267 02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:45,060 Second. 2268 02:56:45,060 --> 02:56:45,620 All right. 2269 02:56:45,640 --> 02:56:46,200 All in favor. 2270 02:56:47,060 --> 02:56:48,060 Thank y'all for your vote. 2271 02:56:48,060 --> 02:56:48,880 I'm 58. 2272 02:56:49,620 --> 02:56:50,260 Thank you.