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AUGUST 20th, 25th.

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The order

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or roll call tristan

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chairperson stephen gilday.

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Present board member maurice

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capra here, board member art

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geller here for member jonathan

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ober here.

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Board member joanne kreps here

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and board attorney.

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>> I'm over here.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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I'd like to ask everybody to

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rise for a moment of silence,

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please

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MR. Mayor, would you sign the

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pledge of allegiance, please?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the united states of america

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for which it stands one nation

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under GOD, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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For all

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All right.

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Deputy chief.

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How are you tonight?

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I'm great.

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>> how are you guys?

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Wonderful.

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Do we have any changes to the

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agenda?

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Yes.

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I'm happy to report that we

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will remove five of one as it

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came into compliance late this

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afternoon.

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>> wonderful.

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And I would also like to make a

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recommendation if the board so

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desires to move 5o2 in front of

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500 as we don't have anybody

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from 500 here at this time and

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several people for 5o2.

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No objection.

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All in favor?

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Right.

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Yeah, no problem.

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Okay.

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MAY I ask that all code

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enforcement officers and other

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individuals giving testimony

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this evening please come up to

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the podium on you're going to

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give testimony and announce

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your name, position or your

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name and address.

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And before speaking.

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And at this time, if you plan

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to come up, if you would stand

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and be sworn in, no.

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Can I have you raise your right

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hand and then do you swear and

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affirm to tell the truth the

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whole truth and nothing but the

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truth?

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>> awesome.

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Can I also just make a note of

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anybody in the audience?

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If you're going to speak, could

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you just write your name down

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on this little border here just

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to make sure I have it spelled

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correct in the minutes for me?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Thank you.

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>> you guys are humming along.

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No typos and everything look

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good.

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Good job.

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Thank you.

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Triple j.

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All right.

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Did any one else read the

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minutes from tuesday, JULY

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28th, 2026.

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>> sorry to your person.

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We actually have to elect a

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vice chairperson for the

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remainder of this year.

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Since miguel was our vice chair

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we do have to just select

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someone else just in case.

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>> okay.

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What happens if we don't select

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someone?

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Can we postpone it to the next

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meeting?

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Potentially.

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It's really just the vice

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chairperson there in case the

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chairperson can't be here for

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whatever reason the vice

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chairperson can then run the

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meeting.

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It's just one of those

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safeguards that we have in

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place for that in case

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something happens.

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>> yeah, our main reasoning,

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our hesitancy is miguel really

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good.

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He's very thorough and every

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time we always learn something

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from coaches.

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>> what can we can we point to

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interim for him?

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I mean I mean, if he comes back

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then he would take it now or do

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we have to redo it for an issue

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with that?

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>> how does that work?

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I think that would be fine.

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Do we know if he's thinking of

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coming back or we have an

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application of file?

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He has shown interest.

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It's just in regards to the

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commission has not reappointed

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him yet.

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>> sure.

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And I got a response there on

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it.

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Yes, got that.

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I'll be back.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, we can table it for next

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time or postpone it next time

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if you would like.

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Or we can appoint an interim

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like we wouldn't for good for

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the evening.

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>> let's postpone until next

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time.

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Do we ever have an excuse me?

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Do we ever have an opportunity

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where this board would have to

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meet prior to the next meeting?

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>> not from my understand less.

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It's a complete emergency, you

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know, in regards to safety and

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hazards and things.

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But like I don't I've never had

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that happen.

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>> yeah that's that's correct.

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If there was an emergency and

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we needed to get the board

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together, we could do so.

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>> that's why I was asking

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about a typical term.

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But just at that point we could

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look at that point if there's

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an emergency, those of us who

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come to that meeting would be

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able to elect somebody at that

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point.

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>> I mean, again, it's only if

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the chair person can't make it.

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be could we do that if the

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chair couldn't make it, we

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could all show up and then

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elect somebody that night.

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Then I'm good with it.

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So then I would formally move

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to table the yeah for me move

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to the table the election of to

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the next meeting.

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Second.

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Second.

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All in favor?

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I.

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All right.

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>> now back to where I was

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thinking.

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>> okay.

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Just kidding.

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Just on your job has anybody

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reviewed the minutes from the

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the JULY meeting?

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JULY 28th, 2026?

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Yes.

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No, they were painful.

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Sorry.

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Do you and do you have any

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changes, any issues or do you

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have a motion to approve?

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I didn't see anything that I

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noted was incorrect.

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So I would make a motion to

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approve the minutes from JULY

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2026 second nothing.

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We have a second roll call.

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Chairperson gilday.

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Yeah.

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Board member keppra board

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member obama.

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All right.

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Board member cripps like board

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member gallo.

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All right.

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I know continued cases, no

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repeat cases 500.

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We are going to move five out.

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One is in compliance.

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That brings us to five vote to

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item five or to please.

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>> good evening.

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For the record, my name is

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carlos to follow.

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Code compliance division of

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city warner springs.

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>> I bring before you

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presentation 2026 cv 000927 and

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I ask the board to accept this

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presentation into evidence and

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one second.

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All those technical good okay

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for the case address is 1219

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sworn st for violations of city

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ordinance 13 dash two b 13 dash

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two c 13 dash two d and 9-374.

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Okay, I got it.

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thank you.

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Definition as presented.

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Definition as presented.

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Definition as presented and in

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definition as presented.

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>> case summary JUNE 3rd, 2026

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code compliance division

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received a citizen complaint

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regarding multiple code

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violations at the reference

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property on JUNE ninth a follow

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up inspection was performed

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observed building materials

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overgrowth, yard debris damage

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or dead trees, waste within the

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front area of the property.

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The screening as a site barrier

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is in disarray and address

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numbers on the property

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building and both sides of the

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mailbox not legible or missing

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exhibits one through 12th JUNE

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10 to 26 and notice of

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violation was mailed to the

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registered property owner by

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usps certified mail with return

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receipt requested posted at the

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property where the alleged

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violation existed and posted at

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city hall exhibit 13 exhibit

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Exhibit two.

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Exhibit three.

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Exhibit four.

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Exhibit five six.

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Exhibit 11 and exhibit 12.

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>> probably can't see too well,

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but there is a medium sized

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tree that has broken in half.

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Top section has fallen over but

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the other section remains

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planted into the ground.

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>> there is another tree in the

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back you'll see in a different

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exhibit.

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Notice of violation posting

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case summary JUNE 29, 2026

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property ownership was updated

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on seminole county appraiser as

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of JUNE 15th 2026 followup

300
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inspection was performed to

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verify the violations remain on

302
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the property JULY 14 to 2026

303
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and also violation was mailed

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to the register property owner

305
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by usps certified mail return

306
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receipt requested JULY 17, 2026

307
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and notice of violation was

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posted at the property and

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posted at city hall exhibits 14

310
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through 21

311
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exhibit 1415 1617.

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There's a you might not be able

313
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to pick it up but there's

314
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another large tree on the left

315
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side behind the green tree.

316
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There's a brown dead tree and I

317
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think it's pine if I'm not

318
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mistaken.

319
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Exhibit 18, exhibit 19.

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So at 2021 case summary JULY

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24th 2026, a follow up

322
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inspection was performed served

323
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that the property remain in

324
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violation.

325
00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:43,890
Notice of colbourne hearing was

326
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sent by us usps certified mail

327
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return receipt requested posted

328
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at the reference property and

329
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at city hall exhibits 22

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through 29

331
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23 24, 25, 26

332
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supposed to be 26 27, 28.

333
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That's the other large tree I

334
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was talking about on the rear

335
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side of the property stop

336
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recommendation stop recommends

337
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the code enforcement board find

338
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the property in violation of

339
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one spring city ordinance 13

340
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dash two be 13 dash two c 13

341
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dash two d and city ordinance

342
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9-374 to be corrected and the

343
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property barn to compliance on

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or before SEPTEMBER 24th 2026

345
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30 days and consider imposition

346
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of a daily fine up to 250 per

347
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violation per day in the event

348
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the requirements of the order

349
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have not been met by the date

350
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set forth for compliance by a

351
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code enforcement board.

352
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Can you pull up the day of

353
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photos

354
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?

355
00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:05,700
>> oh, there should be a set of

356
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I think 13 or 14 photos

357
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.

358
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>> so the front area the right

359
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away has grown significantly

360
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since the last inspection site

361
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barrier still in disarray and

362
00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:23,277
in fact even worse condition.

363
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And it was before tree remains

364
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in the front yard and that's

365
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starting to grow.

366
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>> building materials of the

367
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various debris still remains

368
00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:46,584
siberian still falling apart,

369
00:12:46,584 --> 00:12:47,918
pallet still remains leaning on

370
00:12:47,918 --> 00:12:50,918
the structure and other yard

371
00:12:51,889 --> 00:12:53,889
debris.

372
00:12:58,646 --> 00:12:58,896
That tree still remains

373
00:12:58,896 --> 00:13:00,896
some

374
00:13:02,266 --> 00:13:05,866
overgrowth to the rear side of

375
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the property yard to bring in

376
00:13:08,806 --> 00:13:09,600
the front area of the property

377
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.

378
00:13:09,657 --> 00:13:12,657
I think that was it.

379
00:13:13,444 --> 00:13:13,661
Okay, that concludes our

380
00:13:13,661 --> 00:13:14,328
presentation.

381
00:13:14,328 --> 00:13:14,528
>> does the board have any

382
00:13:14,528 --> 00:13:16,528
questions?

383
00:13:16,697 --> 00:13:17,300
What type of dialog have you

384
00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:19,300
had the owners?

385
00:13:21,102 --> 00:13:22,530
>> none.

386
00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:25,530
>> I actually received a return

387
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,273
mail not that long ago but I

388
00:13:26,273 --> 00:13:29,273
have no communication, email or

389
00:13:29,343 --> 00:13:31,996
phone by the new owners.

390
00:13:31,996 --> 00:13:32,981
>> no new owners.

391
00:13:32,981 --> 00:13:35,834
>> did they buy this as is or

392
00:13:35,834 --> 00:13:36,500
was this under under

393
00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,500
construction?

394
00:13:40,121 --> 00:13:40,655
>> so I would presume as is

395
00:13:40,655 --> 00:13:41,205
since the permit can't be

396
00:13:41,205 --> 00:13:41,856
transferred over to the new

397
00:13:41,856 --> 00:13:44,750
owner unless they go through

398
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the same steps.

399
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:52,660
So as of JULY I mean JUNE 15th

400
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,I have to go back to that.

401
00:13:55,437 --> 00:13:55,887
As of that date when the

402
00:13:55,887 --> 00:13:56,438
ownership changed, I didn't

403
00:13:56,438 --> 00:13:59,407
cite the property right away

404
00:13:59,407 --> 00:14:00,580
just to give some time to see

405
00:14:00,580 --> 00:14:03,328
maybe the jump on something but

406
00:14:03,328 --> 00:14:03,644
nothing was moving so the new

407
00:14:03,644 --> 00:14:03,862
owners were cited

408
00:14:03,862 --> 00:14:05,862
appropriately.

409
00:14:07,199 --> 00:14:09,199
Okay.

410
00:14:10,168 --> 00:14:10,936
Was this a foreclosure?

411
00:14:10,936 --> 00:14:11,152
>> not to my understanding at

412
00:14:11,152 --> 00:14:13,152
the time.

413
00:14:14,523 --> 00:14:15,190
The original notice was given

414
00:14:15,190 --> 00:14:17,525
the owner was in process of

415
00:14:17,525 --> 00:14:18,376
still trying to get the permits

416
00:14:18,376 --> 00:14:21,646
in place for the as he were

417
00:14:21,646 --> 00:14:22,197
doing the first notice of

418
00:14:22,197 --> 00:14:22,431
violation he received as a

419
00:14:22,431 --> 00:14:24,431
separate matter.

420
00:14:25,484 --> 00:14:26,251
But it was for a expired permit

421
00:14:26,251 --> 00:14:29,504
which he ended up getting it

422
00:14:29,504 --> 00:14:30,272
issued back to him again.

423
00:14:30,272 --> 00:14:33,272
>> but then shortly after he

424
00:14:33,325 --> 00:14:35,325
sold the property.

425
00:14:36,394 --> 00:14:36,928
Is anyone living in this house?

426
00:14:36,928 --> 00:14:37,145
>> oh, no.

427
00:14:37,145 --> 00:14:37,812
Okay.

428
00:14:37,812 --> 00:14:40,232
Not that I can see.

429
00:14:40,232 --> 00:14:40,466
No.

430
00:14:40,466 --> 00:14:41,216
Okay.

431
00:14:41,216 --> 00:14:44,216
So it's not a rental?

432
00:14:44,786 --> 00:14:45,220
No, it's pretty much a

433
00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:47,620
construction site right now.

434
00:14:49,508 --> 00:14:50,580
>> it's nothing going in and

435
00:14:50,580 --> 00:14:50,226
out of that property, I

436
00:14:50,226 --> 00:14:52,127
believe.

437
00:14:52,127 --> 00:14:52,761
Anybody who wants to testify

438
00:14:52,761 --> 00:14:53,300
here would probably say the

439
00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,300
same.

440
00:14:56,732 --> 00:14:57,490
>> okay.

441
00:14:57,490 --> 00:14:59,490
Thank you.

442
00:15:00,736 --> 00:15:04,336
And here is there a respondent

443
00:15:09,478 --> 00:15:09,895
here for the the owner now the

444
00:15:09,895 --> 00:15:11,895
owner's not here?

445
00:15:13,565 --> 00:15:14,517
No.

446
00:15:14,517 --> 00:15:17,787
and the owner has not responded

447
00:15:17,787 --> 00:15:18,300
or accepted any of the service

448
00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:20,300
on mail?

449
00:15:21,691 --> 00:15:22,458
>> yeah, there was a return and

450
00:15:22,458 --> 00:15:22,791
I have to look for it, but

451
00:15:22,791 --> 00:15:24,791
nothing was claimed.

452
00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:26,512
>> so you haven't got any phone

453
00:15:26,512 --> 00:15:28,912
calls from the owner?

454
00:15:29,748 --> 00:15:30,416
>> no.

455
00:15:30,416 --> 00:15:30,633
The owner is g investments.

456
00:15:30,633 --> 00:15:32,633
Okay.

457
00:15:32,985 --> 00:15:33,620
Because the owner is g

458
00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:36,200
investments and we've had

459
00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:40,260
multiple cases like this in the

460
00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:40,893
past where some bank or

461
00:15:40,893 --> 00:15:41,629
investment company owns a

462
00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:44,629
property and they just don't

463
00:15:45,414 --> 00:15:45,748
respond to the bank pay for it.

464
00:15:45,748 --> 00:15:47,748
>> yeah.

465
00:15:49,302 --> 00:15:52,710
So the latest from postal

466
00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:54,471
services AUGUST 17th of 2026

467
00:15:55,741 --> 00:15:56,392
return notice it never was

468
00:15:56,392 --> 00:15:56,609
signed for it was returned back

469
00:15:56,609 --> 00:15:58,609
to sender.

470
00:15:59,462 --> 00:16:00,413
Okay.

471
00:16:00,413 --> 00:16:03,650
And we have folks that are

472
00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:03,717
willing to give testimony on

473
00:16:03,717 --> 00:16:06,717
this to the internal revenue

474
00:16:06,753 --> 00:16:07,521
service property.

475
00:16:07,521 --> 00:16:11,121
You could come up and state

476
00:16:13,727 --> 00:16:16,127
your name and address.

477
00:16:17,897 --> 00:16:19,897
What are you?

478
00:16:20,967 --> 00:16:21,143
So ellen paul I live at 1201

479
00:16:21,143 --> 00:16:23,143
street.

480
00:16:24,471 --> 00:16:24,621
I one second will help you out

481
00:16:24,621 --> 00:16:26,621
there.

482
00:16:29,777 --> 00:16:30,210
It was on this.

483
00:16:30,210 --> 00:16:32,210
Sorry about that.

484
00:16:36,650 --> 00:16:36,866
Thank you

485
00:16:36,866 --> 00:16:37,584
.

486
00:16:37,584 --> 00:16:40,837
You can fill that out after.

487
00:16:40,837 --> 00:16:42,837
Yeah.

488
00:16:43,907 --> 00:16:44,590
This has been going on for four

489
00:16:44,590 --> 00:16:44,242
years.

490
00:16:44,242 --> 00:16:46,242
Okay.

491
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:50,710
We're going on the fifth year

492
00:16:50,881 --> 00:16:53,881
the people decided to rather

493
00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:56,300
than tear it down and build a

494
00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,855
new house, they decided to

495
00:16:58,855 --> 00:16:59,673
renovate.

496
00:16:59,673 --> 00:17:02,730
apparently the contractor my

497
00:17:03,127 --> 00:17:05,127
understanding was from

498
00:17:05,879 --> 00:17:06,630
clearwater they had no more

499
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:09,199
than two people working on this

500
00:17:09,199 --> 00:17:09,349
house for two years or four

501
00:17:09,349 --> 00:17:11,349
years.

502
00:17:13,187 --> 00:17:13,937
Then it went down to one person

503
00:17:13,937 --> 00:17:16,307
and they would bring in stuff

504
00:17:16,307 --> 00:17:19,677
and they the yard was just

505
00:17:19,677 --> 00:17:20,770
piled with a dumpster and stuff

506
00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:22,770
everywhere.

507
00:17:23,765 --> 00:17:26,165
That was finally removed.

508
00:17:27,969 --> 00:17:28,185
>> as you can see, the yard is

509
00:17:28,185 --> 00:17:28,836
very unsafe.

510
00:17:28,836 --> 00:17:31,836
It's a health hazard there.

511
00:17:32,223 --> 00:17:32,757
Children in the neighborhood

512
00:17:32,757 --> 00:17:35,192
that ride their bicycles by

513
00:17:35,192 --> 00:17:35,960
going to school.

514
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,130
There are rats running out of

515
00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:39,897
the house to the neighbors that

516
00:17:39,897 --> 00:17:43,167
are on that side of the street.

517
00:17:43,167 --> 00:17:43,935
They're dealing with rats.

518
00:17:43,935 --> 00:17:46,700
I'm sure the raccoon family is

519
00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:46,247
living in their maybe the

520
00:17:46,247 --> 00:17:46,621
coyotes.

521
00:17:46,621 --> 00:17:48,621
I don't know.

522
00:17:50,508 --> 00:17:54,950
But there's all kind of there

523
00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:54,946
was a dead rabbit that had been

524
00:17:54,946 --> 00:17:55,163
I think the coyote got it in

525
00:17:55,163 --> 00:17:57,163
the driveway.

526
00:18:00,685 --> 00:18:03,738
So anyway, the back of the

527
00:18:03,738 --> 00:18:04,589
house is completely open and

528
00:18:04,589 --> 00:18:07,659
it's been open for four years.

529
00:18:07,659 --> 00:18:07,893
So anything can run in and out

530
00:18:07,893 --> 00:18:09,893
of there.

531
00:18:11,463 --> 00:18:11,679
It's I'm sure people mold it

532
00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:13,679
this property.

533
00:18:15,250 --> 00:18:15,467
It just needs to be demolished

534
00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:16,417
.

535
00:18:16,417 --> 00:18:18,269
I don't know if the city can

536
00:18:18,269 --> 00:18:20,269
demolish it.

537
00:18:22,524 --> 00:18:23,392
It's awful.

538
00:18:23,392 --> 00:18:23,942
You know, I think four years is

539
00:18:23,942 --> 00:18:26,595
long enough for the neighbors

540
00:18:26,595 --> 00:18:26,744
to have to suffer looking at

541
00:18:26,744 --> 00:18:27,579
it.

542
00:18:27,579 --> 00:18:29,514
And I'm sure if it was across

543
00:18:29,514 --> 00:18:30,640
from your property you would be

544
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,640
as frustrated as we are.

545
00:18:33,652 --> 00:18:36,521
So I appreciate you listening

546
00:18:36,521 --> 00:18:36,738
to my rambling, but we're just

547
00:18:36,738 --> 00:18:38,738
over this.

548
00:18:40,626 --> 00:18:41,376
Anything you can do to speed up

549
00:18:41,376 --> 00:18:44,376
the process would be greatly

550
00:18:44,412 --> 00:18:45,364
appreciated.

551
00:18:45,364 --> 00:18:47,700
Mean I'm sorry I didn't hear

552
00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:48,483
where you're dressed.

553
00:18:48,483 --> 00:18:48,667
>> are you a neighbor, I'm

554
00:18:48,667 --> 00:18:50,667
assuming.

555
00:18:51,420 --> 00:18:52,870
Yes.

556
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:52,471
I live across the street.

557
00:18:52,471 --> 00:18:52,704
Three doors down.

558
00:18:52,704 --> 00:18:53,210
Okay.

559
00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:55,210
Thank you.

560
00:18:55,907 --> 00:18:59,695
And I'm go by it every day.

561
00:18:59,695 --> 00:19:00,145
In fact, I even walk on the

562
00:19:00,145 --> 00:19:00,695
other side of the street

563
00:19:00,695 --> 00:19:02,548
because I don't know what's

564
00:19:02,548 --> 00:19:02,765
going to come out and bite you.

565
00:19:02,765 --> 00:19:04,765
Okay.

566
00:19:06,402 --> 00:19:06,735
Thank you.

567
00:19:06,735 --> 00:19:08,735
Appreciate it.

568
00:19:09,405 --> 00:19:11,805
Is there anyone else?

569
00:19:14,326 --> 00:19:16,863
Hi, I'm paula jobe and I live

570
00:19:16,863 --> 00:19:19,863
right next door at 1217 swan.

571
00:19:23,486 --> 00:19:24,300
In their 30 years seen for

572
00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:24,720
owners come and go.

573
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,472
>> now we're on the fifth.

574
00:19:26,472 --> 00:19:30,720
I understand as a builder that

575
00:19:30,459 --> 00:19:30,576
lives down the road on northern

576
00:19:30,576 --> 00:19:32,576
.

577
00:19:33,463 --> 00:19:34,197
My husband and I are very, very

578
00:19:34,197 --> 00:19:34,847
high and taking pride on

579
00:19:34,847 --> 00:19:38,170
ownership of our house and we

580
00:19:38,170 --> 00:19:41,504
try very hard to have our lawn

581
00:19:41,504 --> 00:19:42,455
and our house just so.

582
00:19:42,455 --> 00:19:43,306
>> luckily I live on the side

583
00:19:43,306 --> 00:19:45,141
where there's a hedge and a

584
00:19:45,141 --> 00:19:45,691
fence, whereas we have

585
00:19:45,691 --> 00:19:46,443
neighbors that live red cross

586
00:19:46,443 --> 00:19:48,878
straight that have to see it

587
00:19:48,878 --> 00:19:50,878
every single day.

588
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:53,699
>> the issue is I worked or I

589
00:19:53,699 --> 00:19:54,216
know the owners of the past

590
00:19:54,216 --> 00:19:56,786
owners and I know what happened

591
00:19:56,786 --> 00:19:56,936
and I know why they sold the

592
00:19:56,936 --> 00:19:57,753
house.

593
00:19:57,753 --> 00:19:58,604
I also know that they told that

594
00:19:58,604 --> 00:20:01,740
whoever is going to buy the

595
00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:01,225
house has to demolish the

596
00:20:01,225 --> 00:20:01,909
house.

597
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:04,309
There was extensive mold

598
00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:08,940
because for four years nobody

599
00:20:08,865 --> 00:20:09,315
lived in there and was open and

600
00:20:09,315 --> 00:20:10,149
they were sorely disappointed.

601
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:13,149
But they certainly found the

602
00:20:13,219 --> 00:20:14,554
house quick enough to purchase

603
00:20:14,554 --> 00:20:18,154
and live away from from swan

604
00:20:18,825 --> 00:20:19,593
street.

605
00:20:19,593 --> 00:20:22,593
>> we've never my husband I've

606
00:20:22,946 --> 00:20:23,597
never had rats until recently

607
00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:26,320
and we've never had raccoons

608
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,667
until recently.

609
00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:27,283
Our bird feeders are completely

610
00:20:27,283 --> 00:20:27,600
gone because of all the rats

611
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600
that come.

612
00:20:30,471 --> 00:20:34,400
We had rats nesting in our

613
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,808
patio this past spring.

614
00:20:34,808 --> 00:20:37,160
>> it's just been very hard.

615
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,760
Now our front lawn, which I

616
00:20:41,264 --> 00:20:41,815
think I would love to say that

617
00:20:41,815 --> 00:20:42,315
we probably have won the best

618
00:20:42,315 --> 00:20:42,949
lawns, you know, in the

619
00:20:42,949 --> 00:20:45,349
neighborhood just because my

620
00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:46,287
husband put so much time in it.

621
00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:49,287
The weeds, the seeds, the

622
00:20:49,423 --> 00:20:49,873
branches those trees have

623
00:20:49,873 --> 00:20:52,273
fallen on the fences.

624
00:20:53,243 --> 00:20:53,417
The trees have fallen from the

625
00:20:53,417 --> 00:20:54,128
front.

626
00:20:54,128 --> 00:20:57,180
And as was seen in the

627
00:20:57,180 --> 00:20:57,831
pictures, there is a actually a

628
00:20:57,831 --> 00:20:57,981
large oak tree that broke and

629
00:20:57,981 --> 00:20:59,981
fell.

630
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,180
Well, there's one that's fell

631
00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:01,451
into our yard too that we had

632
00:21:01,451 --> 00:21:03,851
to take care of.

633
00:21:04,538 --> 00:21:05,406
>> so the thing is, is that

634
00:21:05,406 --> 00:21:07,657
with this new builder I was so

635
00:21:07,657 --> 00:21:11,345
happy to see that a new owner

636
00:21:11,345 --> 00:21:11,996
had come in to the scene

637
00:21:11,996 --> 00:21:15,165
because for four years we had

638
00:21:15,165 --> 00:21:15,699
to deal with the past owner and

639
00:21:15,699 --> 00:21:18,990
getting permits after permits

640
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:19,604
after permits to extend four

641
00:21:19,604 --> 00:21:20,454
years of construction.

642
00:21:20,454 --> 00:21:22,840
That never worked out for them.

643
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,591
So with the new owner back in

644
00:21:23,591 --> 00:21:26,661
JUNE that bought the house, I

645
00:21:26,661 --> 00:21:26,877
was like, oh please just mow

646
00:21:26,877 --> 00:21:27,961
the lawn.

647
00:21:27,961 --> 00:21:29,713
>> at least the old owner had a

648
00:21:29,713 --> 00:21:29,847
service that came every week to

649
00:21:29,847 --> 00:21:30,482
mow.

650
00:21:30,482 --> 00:21:32,882
>> there's nothing been done.

651
00:21:33,550 --> 00:21:36,921
And I just walked the sidewalk

652
00:21:36,921 --> 00:21:37,471
this morning and the grass is

653
00:21:37,471 --> 00:21:39,871
actually attaching itself from

654
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,224
side to side over the sidewalks

655
00:21:40,224 --> 00:21:40,991
.

656
00:21:40,991 --> 00:21:41,425
And in our block right now

657
00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:41,609
they're putting a new

658
00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:43,609
sidewalks.

659
00:21:44,596 --> 00:21:45,162
They're digging out the old

660
00:21:45,162 --> 00:21:45,714
ones and putting in new ones.

661
00:21:45,714 --> 00:21:48,114
The cracked and broken.

662
00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:49,150
And I can't wait until they get

663
00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:49,750
on this side because of the

664
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:52,404
fact that they're going to fix

665
00:21:52,404 --> 00:21:53,710
what's been broken and all the

666
00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:56,340
hopefully all the weeds and the

667
00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:56,891
bushes and the shrubs and it's

668
00:21:56,891 --> 00:21:57,410
just it's just an ongoing

669
00:21:57,410 --> 00:21:59,410
thing.

670
00:21:59,977 --> 00:22:00,412
So with a new owner, my husband

671
00:22:00,412 --> 00:22:01,379
was like, okay, great.

672
00:22:01,379 --> 00:22:03,398
>> somebody is going to do

673
00:22:03,398 --> 00:22:04,480
something.

674
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,340
And it's just gotten worse.

675
00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:08,300
And with the heat and the rain

676
00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:08,653
,it's just as you have seen in

677
00:22:08,653 --> 00:22:11,653
the pictures just so overgrown,

678
00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:13,709
so as alan said to, you know,

679
00:22:13,709 --> 00:22:16,578
if we can get this move in,

680
00:22:16,578 --> 00:22:16,895
something happening, we would

681
00:22:16,895 --> 00:22:17,545
surely appreciate it.

682
00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:17,980
Thank you for your time.

683
00:22:17,980 --> 00:22:18,597
Thank you.

684
00:22:18,597 --> 00:22:20,597
Mm hmm.

685
00:22:32,927 --> 00:22:35,927
Thank you, everybody for your

686
00:22:36,515 --> 00:22:36,848
time just to hear our concerns

687
00:22:36,848 --> 00:22:37,482
on the neighborhood.

688
00:22:37,482 --> 00:22:39,482
>> I'm delia pigott.

689
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520
I live at 1220 swan street.

690
00:22:43,422 --> 00:22:44,490
I'm directly in front of 1219.

691
00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:47,543
So I get to see this every

692
00:22:47,543 --> 00:22:49,543
single day.

693
00:22:50,212 --> 00:22:50,629
I have been in winter springs

694
00:22:50,629 --> 00:22:51,280
for five years.

695
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,830
One of the things that

696
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:54,230
attracted me to that

697
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:55,317
neighborhood specific actually

698
00:22:55,317 --> 00:22:56,168
was just how the prior to

699
00:22:56,168 --> 00:22:59,380
ownership that we have in our

700
00:22:59,380 --> 00:22:59,688
neighborhood there was a lot of

701
00:22:59,688 --> 00:23:00,220
students, a lot of kids that

702
00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:02,220
ride their bikes.

703
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:03,859
That was one of the things and

704
00:23:03,859 --> 00:23:06,511
of course all the trees and the

705
00:23:06,511 --> 00:23:07,363
nature around us.

706
00:23:07,363 --> 00:23:10,363
>> that's what attracted me to

707
00:23:10,616 --> 00:23:11,500
winter springs currently been

708
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,450
four years going on.

709
00:23:14,737 --> 00:23:14,953
All of us have pride in our

710
00:23:14,953 --> 00:23:15,621
neighborhood.

711
00:23:15,621 --> 00:23:17,657
We all kind of compete nicely

712
00:23:17,657 --> 00:23:21,257
just to keep our best yards.

713
00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:22,595
>> we have respect for the

714
00:23:22,595 --> 00:23:25,470
trash that goes out there at

715
00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:25,898
night and for the last four

716
00:23:25,898 --> 00:23:29,670
years we have not seen any

717
00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:29,819
effort from whether it's the

718
00:23:29,819 --> 00:23:32,889
owners or the new owners to

719
00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:33,322
even match or have the minimum

720
00:23:33,322 --> 00:23:35,722
standards of the community.

721
00:23:36,809 --> 00:23:37,443
>> the other thing too is that

722
00:23:37,443 --> 00:23:40,112
it causes concerns because as

723
00:23:40,112 --> 00:23:43,499
ellen said, there's a lot of

724
00:23:43,499 --> 00:23:44,217
open places and spaces in that

725
00:23:44,217 --> 00:23:47,217
in that in that housing.

726
00:23:47,704 --> 00:23:48,554
Previously while they were

727
00:23:48,554 --> 00:23:49,188
working on it, there were a lot

728
00:23:49,188 --> 00:23:52,580
of people that were staying

729
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:52,809
there overnight at two weeks at

730
00:23:52,809 --> 00:23:54,944
a time, three weeks and there

731
00:23:54,944 --> 00:23:55,495
were different faces coming and

732
00:23:55,495 --> 00:23:58,495
going from time to time.

733
00:23:59,820 --> 00:23:59,249
No one drove, no one had a

734
00:23:59,249 --> 00:24:01,249
license.

735
00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:02,435
They just kind of sat there for

736
00:24:02,435 --> 00:24:02,586
2 or 3 weeks and then they

737
00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:03,486
left.

738
00:24:03,486 --> 00:24:06,273
So we have been dealing with

739
00:24:06,273 --> 00:24:07,230
this for over four years and

740
00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:10,230
we're just here in solidarity

741
00:24:10,393 --> 00:24:10,743
trying to see if we can get

742
00:24:10,743 --> 00:24:11,578
this some support done.

743
00:24:11,578 --> 00:24:14,300
Even the owners, they're not

744
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:14,631
even here.

745
00:24:14,631 --> 00:24:15,480
We live there in the

746
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:15,482
neighborhood and we have to

747
00:24:15,482 --> 00:24:17,216
deal with it everyday.

748
00:24:17,216 --> 00:24:20,804
So we're asking for some sort

749
00:24:20,804 --> 00:24:21,300
of resolution to get this going

750
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:21,655
.

751
00:24:21,655 --> 00:24:24,655
Thank you for your time.

752
00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:26,708
Thank you.

753
00:24:29,512 --> 00:24:31,948
Is there anyone else wishing to

754
00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:33,948
speak?

755
00:24:35,819 --> 00:24:37,819
Okay.

756
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:40,824
Can you confirm from carlos the

757
00:24:40,824 --> 00:24:43,260
one one did this owner take

758
00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:44,227
ownership?

759
00:24:44,227 --> 00:24:47,281
>> I think you said you think

760
00:24:47,281 --> 00:24:47,598
it was JUNE.

761
00:24:47,598 --> 00:24:49,598
JUNE 15th.

762
00:24:54,972 --> 00:24:57,972
I believe you two can

763
00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:00,644
because

764
00:25:00,644 --> 00:25:00,827
does the board have any other

765
00:25:00,827 --> 00:25:00,999
questions?

766
00:25:00,999 --> 00:25:02,999
Yes.

767
00:25:08,850 --> 00:25:08,836
Carlos carlos, what addressed

768
00:25:08,836 --> 00:25:09,169
did we send these notices to

769
00:25:09,169 --> 00:25:11,169
the new owner?

770
00:25:12,523 --> 00:25:15,523
>> I sort of registered owners

771
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:18,428
are listed gbg investments llc

772
00:25:18,428 --> 00:25:20,428
1215 northern way.

773
00:25:24,668 --> 00:25:26,668
Okay

774
00:25:29,207 --> 00:25:29,623
.

775
00:25:29,623 --> 00:25:31,623
Let's see.

776
00:25:33,177 --> 00:25:35,577
Inspector the photo the

777
00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:36,880
residence or at least one that

778
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,316
I remember mentioned the safety

779
00:25:39,316 --> 00:25:40,680
potential safety issues.

780
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,680
Is this something the city's

781
00:25:43,221 --> 00:25:45,621
got to worry about?

782
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,976
>> I, I can't fathom on you

783
00:25:47,976 --> 00:25:50,211
know what ifs but I mean there

784
00:25:50,211 --> 00:25:50,645
is substantial business

785
00:25:50,645 --> 00:25:53,450
building materials out there

786
00:25:54,532 --> 00:25:54,733
lumber, metal, metals and

787
00:25:54,733 --> 00:25:56,733
everything.

788
00:25:58,519 --> 00:25:59,137
>> like she said before, the

789
00:25:59,137 --> 00:25:59,354
back is pretty much open, is

790
00:25:59,354 --> 00:26:01,354
not secured.

791
00:26:01,606 --> 00:26:02,373
Anything that was supposed to

792
00:26:02,373 --> 00:26:02,590
be there as a site barriers and

793
00:26:02,590 --> 00:26:04,590
just disarray.

794
00:26:05,126 --> 00:26:05,877
Nothing's really preventing

795
00:26:05,877 --> 00:26:06,428
anybody from going on to that

796
00:26:06,428 --> 00:26:09,428
property and venturing into it.

797
00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:09,815
>> there's no swimming pool

798
00:26:09,815 --> 00:26:10,131
though, right?

799
00:26:10,131 --> 00:26:12,131
>> nope.

800
00:26:13,635 --> 00:26:14,602
An open lot that I can no, no.

801
00:26:14,602 --> 00:26:17,772
The fact that they can go into

802
00:26:17,772 --> 00:26:20,342
that house, a child or any body

803
00:26:20,342 --> 00:26:20,859
that's to me is the safety

804
00:26:20,859 --> 00:26:22,859
issue right there.

805
00:26:25,346 --> 00:26:27,582
>> so the rear gate is ajar is

806
00:26:27,582 --> 00:26:28,367
open.

807
00:26:28,367 --> 00:26:28,800
Sometimes I see it more is open

808
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,952
more than other days.

809
00:26:30,952 --> 00:26:34,552
But it's never been secured for

810
00:26:35,423 --> 00:26:39,100
a while I guess for our or our

811
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,100
lawyer, our league, our legal,

812
00:26:42,464 --> 00:26:44,464
legal, legal.

813
00:26:46,551 --> 00:26:47,102
>> if this was an empty pool,

814
00:26:47,102 --> 00:26:49,755
you know, a swimming pool

815
00:26:49,755 --> 00:26:50,305
situation, we could request as

816
00:26:50,305 --> 00:26:53,305
a board to do something.

817
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:54,526
It is.

818
00:26:54,526 --> 00:26:57,780
Does this safety thing apply in

819
00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:57,963
this case that we can do

820
00:26:57,963 --> 00:26:59,963
something?

821
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:02,351
>> yeah, it's kind of a I would

822
00:27:02,351 --> 00:27:05,620
say kind of an edge case

823
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:06,271
typically to have the city to

824
00:27:06,271 --> 00:27:09,442
go in and abate the property,

825
00:27:09,442 --> 00:27:10,693
it has to be pretty significant

826
00:27:10,693 --> 00:27:12,728
to find it to be like a health

827
00:27:12,728 --> 00:27:13,595
hazard.

828
00:27:13,595 --> 00:27:16,565
It usually has to be quite

829
00:27:16,565 --> 00:27:17,299
significant like a pool that is

830
00:27:17,299 --> 00:27:20,686
open that the child or someone

831
00:27:20,686 --> 00:27:21,436
could walk into and drown or

832
00:27:21,436 --> 00:27:23,890
some sort of body of water that

833
00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:24,890
is like breathing of

834
00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:26,890
mosquitoes.

835
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:28,727
Definitely the rats and other

836
00:27:28,727 --> 00:27:32,980
vermin are, you know, an issue

837
00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:35,368
and might be a safety concern I

838
00:27:35,368 --> 00:27:36,318
suppose whether it would rise

839
00:27:36,318 --> 00:27:39,172
to that level is up to the

840
00:27:39,172 --> 00:27:39,839
board and then I'll just know

841
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:40,790
that the city has requested to

842
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:43,359
go in and do the abatement at

843
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,793
this time if that's something

844
00:27:43,793 --> 00:27:46,193
they're looking to explore.

845
00:27:46,962 --> 00:27:47,279
>> I'll defer to them.

846
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:47,596
okay.

847
00:27:47,596 --> 00:27:47,931
Thank you.

848
00:27:47,931 --> 00:27:49,931
Of course.

849
00:27:53,936 --> 00:27:56,936
Is that something that thanks

850
00:27:57,306 --> 00:27:58,257
to deputy chief pressley for

851
00:27:58,257 --> 00:28:00,911
the record, it's not out of the

852
00:28:00,911 --> 00:28:01,543
question.

853
00:28:01,543 --> 00:28:02,212
What we're asking for tonight

854
00:28:02,212 --> 00:28:04,848
is a finding of fact that

855
00:28:04,848 --> 00:28:05,715
they're in violation.

856
00:28:05,715 --> 00:28:06,248
There are some steps that we've

857
00:28:06,248 --> 00:28:08,648
discussed internally that we

858
00:28:08,984 --> 00:28:09,752
can take.

859
00:28:09,752 --> 00:28:10,387
But for this evening, you know,

860
00:28:10,387 --> 00:28:12,787
we're obviously requesting that

861
00:28:13,556 --> 00:28:16,556
finding of fact that some

862
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:16,961
violation there are some things

863
00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:17,177
that takes a little more

864
00:28:17,177 --> 00:28:17,611
investigate of work to

865
00:28:17,611 --> 00:28:17,944
determine the rodents and

866
00:28:17,944 --> 00:28:19,944
things like that.

867
00:28:21,315 --> 00:28:21,514
We haven't seen any of those

868
00:28:21,514 --> 00:28:23,514
personally.

869
00:28:25,535 --> 00:28:28,287
So you know, if we can show the

870
00:28:28,287 --> 00:28:28,838
health hazard safety hazard, we

871
00:28:28,838 --> 00:28:31,838
can definitely go that route.

872
00:28:32,726 --> 00:28:33,393
But we don't feel that we have

873
00:28:33,393 --> 00:28:36,290
the evidence to support that in

874
00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:36,346
our case this evening.

875
00:28:36,346 --> 00:28:36,580
Excuse me.

876
00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:38,580
Okay.

877
00:28:39,216 --> 00:28:39,550
Excuse me.

878
00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:39,766
MAY I?

879
00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:41,766
Please.

880
00:28:43,954 --> 00:28:47,641
If we were to have a finding of

881
00:28:47,641 --> 00:28:48,826
fact, can the city go?

882
00:28:48,826 --> 00:28:51,879
Can we have the city go in and

883
00:28:51,879 --> 00:28:52,212
at least clean up?

884
00:28:52,212 --> 00:28:52,712
>> no.

885
00:28:52,712 --> 00:28:52,929
With mowing or any.

886
00:28:52,929 --> 00:28:54,929
No.

887
00:28:54,998 --> 00:28:55,732
The finding of fact is to incur

888
00:28:55,732 --> 00:28:58,284
the daily fines if they don't

889
00:28:58,284 --> 00:28:58,935
come into compliance after our

890
00:28:58,935 --> 00:29:01,335
recommended 30 days that we

891
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:03,390
give them.

892
00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:06,627
If that's what the board does,

893
00:29:06,627 --> 00:29:09,627
this evening, we have another

894
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:10,731
tool that you'll never see as

895
00:29:10,731 --> 00:29:13,131
an intent to remedy.

896
00:29:14,501 --> 00:29:15,236
so if we still continue to get

897
00:29:15,236 --> 00:29:17,821
no response from the property

898
00:29:17,821 --> 00:29:20,821
owner, there's a 15 day notice.

899
00:29:21,192 --> 00:29:22,580
For example, if the city's

900
00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:22,777
going to go in and mow the

901
00:29:22,777 --> 00:29:25,312
grass and clean up some of the

902
00:29:25,312 --> 00:29:26,180
junk, the construction debris,

903
00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:29,650
we can issue a 15 day notice

904
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:30,518
post that if it's not cleaned

905
00:29:30,518 --> 00:29:33,271
up then we can go in and do

906
00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:36,271
that without any board action.

907
00:29:37,458 --> 00:29:40,611
>> if council if we have the

908
00:29:40,611 --> 00:29:44,211
pool situation and they come in

909
00:29:44,499 --> 00:29:48,990
and we're looking to to resolve

910
00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:48,820
a safety issue on such a case,

911
00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,220
it's in the past.

912
00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:54,358
To my recollection we've done

913
00:29:54,358 --> 00:29:54,993
that and it's that time shorter

914
00:29:54,993 --> 00:29:55,310
than that 30 days recommended.

915
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:57,310
Hmm.

916
00:29:58,996 --> 00:29:59,630
The fact that we're speaking

917
00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:02,630
the safety concerns here, can

918
00:30:05,436 --> 00:30:06,287
we can we alter that in this

919
00:30:06,287 --> 00:30:09,657
case and be on on good footing

920
00:30:09,657 --> 00:30:09,991
to do it with a time frame less

921
00:30:09,991 --> 00:30:10,425
than 30 days?

922
00:30:10,425 --> 00:30:12,425
>> yeah, absolutely.

923
00:30:13,695 --> 00:30:14,245
You all are provided with a

924
00:30:14,245 --> 00:30:16,614
fair amount of discretion about

925
00:30:16,614 --> 00:30:17,482
the time frames and the fines.

926
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:20,635
The time frame just has to be

927
00:30:20,635 --> 00:30:21,569
reasonable and the fine just

928
00:30:21,569 --> 00:30:24,422
can't be more than $250 per

929
00:30:24,422 --> 00:30:25,290
violation.

930
00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:25,523
But within that you have a lot

931
00:30:25,523 --> 00:30:27,523
of wiggle room.

932
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:29,143
So if you think that less than

933
00:30:29,143 --> 00:30:31,413
30 days is appropriate in this

934
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:32,460
case, then then that would

935
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:35,460
we're talking about the safety

936
00:30:35,717 --> 00:30:38,717
issues we have for violations.

937
00:30:39,704 --> 00:30:39,854
>> you can split them up if you

938
00:30:39,854 --> 00:30:40,706
want.

939
00:30:40,706 --> 00:30:43,475
It doesn't have to be the same

940
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:43,675
time or fine for each violation

941
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:44,626
.

942
00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:45,177
>> if you want to be more

943
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,612
inclined to consider that if

944
00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:47,462
there was representation here

945
00:30:47,462 --> 00:30:48,790
for the other side on the fact

946
00:30:48,790 --> 00:30:50,479
that there's been no

947
00:30:50,715 --> 00:30:51,490
interaction.

948
00:30:51,490 --> 00:30:53,490
All right.

949
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:56,820
That's my feeling.

950
00:30:58,607 --> 00:30:59,242
And but I personally I've heard

951
00:30:59,242 --> 00:31:02,242
enough that they're consider a

952
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:03,712
motion of someone like the

953
00:31:03,712 --> 00:31:03,896
present one if there's no more

954
00:31:03,896 --> 00:31:04,780
questions.

955
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:07,132
I will I do have another

956
00:31:07,132 --> 00:31:07,347
question or discussion if we

957
00:31:07,347 --> 00:31:08,199
could.

958
00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:11,170
So what would the board be

959
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:11,328
thinking would be the time

960
00:31:11,328 --> 00:31:13,328
frame?

961
00:31:13,856 --> 00:31:14,606
I mean I'm I think just to give

962
00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,606
them 30 days is ridiculous when

963
00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:21,376
they have not even responded or

964
00:31:21,547 --> 00:31:22,281
actually turn their nose up at

965
00:31:22,281 --> 00:31:22,615
any violation letters that were

966
00:31:22,615 --> 00:31:23,248
sent to them.

967
00:31:23,248 --> 00:31:25,840
They're just showing that

968
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,484
they're not they're not

969
00:31:28,971 --> 00:31:29,505
interested and for those

970
00:31:29,505 --> 00:31:32,505
reasons, why give them more

971
00:31:32,875 --> 00:31:33,420
time just to sit there and do

972
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:33,525
nothing?

973
00:31:33,525 --> 00:31:35,525
I completely concur.

974
00:31:40,132 --> 00:31:40,783
Chief, how much time I how much

975
00:31:40,783 --> 00:31:43,853
time do you think it will

976
00:31:43,853 --> 00:31:44,504
actually take for somebody to

977
00:31:44,504 --> 00:31:45,540
come in to clear out those

978
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:48,700
safety violations if if they

979
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:48,557
were to start tomorrow, how

980
00:31:48,557 --> 00:31:50,810
much time will it take?

981
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:51,660
>> I mean, I guess be

982
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,914
determined by the size of the

983
00:31:54,914 --> 00:31:56,914
crew.

984
00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:01,683
I mean, if we take into

985
00:32:01,771 --> 00:32:02,822
consideration a cleanup crew of

986
00:32:02,822 --> 00:32:06,920
4 or 5 people, I mean I would

987
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:06,626
imagine you get a majority of

988
00:32:06,626 --> 00:32:06,960
it done in a day.

989
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,960
>> okay.

990
00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:10,679
So then you.

991
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:12,949
Yeah, that's what I wanted.

992
00:32:12,949 --> 00:32:13,700
That's what I needed to know.

993
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,869
I needed to know from your

994
00:32:16,869 --> 00:32:19,269
perspective what a reasonable

995
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,457
timeframe would be to to clean

996
00:32:21,457 --> 00:32:21,657
it up.

997
00:32:21,657 --> 00:32:23,657
Right.

998
00:32:24,144 --> 00:32:24,577
A tree crew can cut down a tree

999
00:32:24,577 --> 00:32:26,577
in a day.

1000
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:30,310
Right?

1001
00:32:32,101 --> 00:32:32,952
Yeah, it would.

1002
00:32:32,952 --> 00:32:35,505
Would the department be averse

1003
00:32:35,505 --> 00:32:36,156
to less than 30 days?

1004
00:32:36,156 --> 00:32:38,556
No, not at all.

1005
00:32:39,409 --> 00:32:41,409
Okay.

1006
00:32:43,697 --> 00:32:47,267
In that case, chair, I would

1007
00:32:47,267 --> 00:32:47,801
move to find that based on the

1008
00:32:47,801 --> 00:32:50,201
testimony, the photographs and

1009
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:53,840
the evidence that was presented

1010
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,440
by the officer show that there

1011
00:32:58,712 --> 00:33:02,312
are in fact violations of water

1012
00:33:02,582 --> 00:33:04,982
springs city ordinance 13 tach

1013
00:33:06,637 --> 00:33:09,370
to subparagraph for winter

1014
00:33:09,506 --> 00:33:10,123
springs city ordinance 13 tac

1015
00:33:10,123 --> 00:33:12,523
to subparagraph see where

1016
00:33:13,611 --> 00:33:16,110
springs city ordinance 13 tac

1017
00:33:17,782 --> 00:33:20,782
two subparagraph the and what

1018
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:26,700
is spring city ordinance 9-374

1019
00:33:27,641 --> 00:33:28,750
and that those sections of the

1020
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:30,475
code have been violated.

1021
00:33:31,346 --> 00:33:34,346
I move that respondents be

1022
00:33:34,715 --> 00:33:35,266
given until to today.

1023
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:37,666
Today is AUGUST 25th.

1024
00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:45,843
Until SEPTEMBER seven.

1025
00:33:45,843 --> 00:33:47,843
About that reasonable.

1026
00:33:49,229 --> 00:33:49,430
Well I think that's more than

1027
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:50,970
reasonable.

1028
00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:52,850
Two weeks is it two weeks.

1029
00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:53,167
Yeah that's two weeks.

1030
00:33:53,167 --> 00:33:53,384
Yeah.

1031
00:33:53,384 --> 00:33:55,353
Yeah.

1032
00:33:55,353 --> 00:33:57,753
I thought SEPTEMBER 7th, 2002

1033
00:33:59,841 --> 00:34:03,210
six to comply to comply if the

1034
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:03,861
fair in the event that the

1035
00:34:03,861 --> 00:34:06,714
respondent does not correct the

1036
00:34:06,714 --> 00:34:07,265
violations in the event the

1037
00:34:07,265 --> 00:34:07,482
respondent fails to comply by

1038
00:34:07,482 --> 00:34:09,482
that date.

1039
00:34:13,470 --> 00:34:15,870
Finally, amount of 250 hours

1040
00:34:17,558 --> 00:34:20,612
per day per violation shall be

1041
00:34:20,612 --> 00:34:21,262
imposed shall be imposed until

1042
00:34:21,262 --> 00:34:24,262
the compliance is reported and

1043
00:34:24,833 --> 00:34:25,367
verified by the city's code

1044
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:25,567
enforcement to the city's code

1045
00:34:25,567 --> 00:34:27,567
enforcement.

1046
00:34:29,153 --> 00:34:29,304
may I ask you to make one

1047
00:34:29,304 --> 00:34:29,487
liner?

1048
00:34:29,487 --> 00:34:31,487
Yes.

1049
00:34:32,758 --> 00:34:36,358
Can you include with that that

1050
00:34:36,728 --> 00:34:40,328
in addition to the the evidence

1051
00:34:40,899 --> 00:34:43,299
that there's potential safety

1052
00:34:43,869 --> 00:34:44,850
issues as well, you do that?

1053
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:45,153
Yeah.

1054
00:34:45,153 --> 00:34:47,806
Then let me amend that to say

1055
00:34:47,806 --> 00:34:50,206
that the violations constitute

1056
00:34:51,576 --> 00:34:52,311
a serious threat to the public

1057
00:34:52,311 --> 00:34:52,977
health, safety and welfare.

1058
00:34:52,977 --> 00:34:55,631
And in the event respondent

1059
00:34:55,631 --> 00:34:56,499
does not correct the violations

1060
00:34:56,499 --> 00:34:58,834
by the date of this order, code

1061
00:34:58,834 --> 00:34:59,484
enforcement board MAY ask the

1062
00:34:59,484 --> 00:35:02,484
city commission and the city

1063
00:35:02,938 --> 00:35:03,472
commission MAY authorize the

1064
00:35:03,472 --> 00:35:06,472
city to make reasonable repairs

1065
00:35:06,742 --> 00:35:07,750
which are required to bring the

1066
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:07,509
company property into

1067
00:35:07,509 --> 00:35:09,909
compliance and charge the

1068
00:35:10,862 --> 00:35:11,613
violator with a reasonable cost

1069
00:35:11,613 --> 00:35:14,983
of those repairs along with the

1070
00:35:14,983 --> 00:35:17,383
fines imposed pursuant to

1071
00:35:18,937 --> 00:35:19,873
chapter 162 for factors or

1072
00:35:19,873 --> 00:35:21,623
whether the fine he recommended

1073
00:35:21,623 --> 00:35:21,908
to be 150 gallons per day per

1074
00:35:21,908 --> 00:35:23,908
violation violation.

1075
00:35:24,893 --> 00:35:25,127
So that's four.

1076
00:35:25,127 --> 00:35:27,127
Okay.

1077
00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:29,749
All right.

1078
00:35:29,749 --> 00:35:33,119
>> and I just want to point out

1079
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,888
for some discussion on this

1080
00:35:35,888 --> 00:35:36,322
that I, I think I counted 13

1081
00:35:36,322 --> 00:35:38,722
days to the monday.

1082
00:35:39,158 --> 00:35:39,375
Yeah.

1083
00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,375
Okay.

1084
00:35:43,362 --> 00:35:44,120
You want to make it SEPTEMBER

1085
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,247
8th and make a temporary that's

1086
00:35:44,247 --> 00:35:46,247
two weeks.

1087
00:35:47,216 --> 00:35:47,850
Yeah, that's two weeks.

1088
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:50,250
I think that's fair.

1089
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:50,736
That would be my suggestion.

1090
00:35:50,736 --> 00:35:52,736
Okay.

1091
00:35:54,607 --> 00:35:58,207
Now the only thing that I'm

1092
00:35:58,294 --> 00:35:58,460
thinking about is modifying the

1093
00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:00,460
motion.

1094
00:36:02,181 --> 00:36:02,699
I don't know that the the three

1095
00:36:02,699 --> 00:36:04,699
prohibitions are certainly

1096
00:36:06,169 --> 00:36:08,569
worth the mailbox numbers.

1097
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:10,824
I don't think so much so I

1098
00:36:10,824 --> 00:36:14,177
would modify it to say for that

1099
00:36:14,177 --> 00:36:17,130
for that last violation for

1100
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:19,365
nine that cash dash 374 that

1101
00:36:19,365 --> 00:36:22,365
that fine be $50 a day.

1102
00:36:23,770 --> 00:36:24,620
I don't think we could justify

1103
00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:25,138
$250 a day for somebody not

1104
00:36:25,138 --> 00:36:27,138
putting numbers up.

1105
00:36:29,192 --> 00:36:30,160
Mm hmm.

1106
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120
I mean, do we need that second?

1107
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,800
We do.

1108
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,734
I just wanted to let any any

1109
00:36:37,734 --> 00:36:38,484
discussion happen before we.

1110
00:36:38,484 --> 00:36:40,770
>> well, I'll second it.

1111
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:41,220
I'll second it and then you can

1112
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:41,187
have a discussion.

1113
00:36:41,187 --> 00:36:41,404
Okay.

1114
00:36:41,404 --> 00:36:43,404
Yeah.

1115
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:44,557
If you want.

1116
00:36:44,557 --> 00:36:44,992
Okay.

1117
00:36:44,992 --> 00:36:45,325
That's that's there.

1118
00:36:45,325 --> 00:36:47,325
I think.

1119
00:36:47,461 --> 00:36:49,861
I think we're good.

1120
00:36:51,331 --> 00:36:51,848
No further discussion.

1121
00:36:51,848 --> 00:36:53,848
Tristan brockwell, please.

1122
00:36:54,518 --> 00:36:55,385
We have a motion in a second.

1123
00:36:55,385 --> 00:36:57,404
>> I just want to actually

1124
00:36:57,404 --> 00:36:58,589
double verify the motion.

1125
00:36:58,589 --> 00:37:02,189
>> so we're doing a $250 a day

1126
00:37:05,929 --> 00:37:09,282
for the 313 dash two b, c and d

1127
00:37:09,282 --> 00:37:09,516
and then 54 ordinance 9-374.

1128
00:37:09,516 --> 00:37:09,733
Correct.

1129
00:37:09,733 --> 00:37:09,949
Okay.

1130
00:37:09,949 --> 00:37:11,949
Beautiful.

1131
00:37:12,602 --> 00:37:12,736
And giving them until SEPTEMBER

1132
00:37:12,736 --> 00:37:12,919
8th.

1133
00:37:12,919 --> 00:37:13,153
14.

1134
00:37:13,153 --> 00:37:13,570
Beautiful.

1135
00:37:13,570 --> 00:37:15,570
All right.

1136
00:37:16,957 --> 00:37:17,458
That totals to about $800 a

1137
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:20,458
day, if I'm not mistaken.

1138
00:37:20,844 --> 00:37:21,378
>> I just wanted to make sure I

1139
00:37:21,378 --> 00:37:21,812
had that all down because I was

1140
00:37:21,812 --> 00:37:21,978
trying to get it while you were

1141
00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:22,329
saying.

1142
00:37:22,329 --> 00:37:22,746
>> yes, ma'am.

1143
00:37:22,746 --> 00:37:23,781
All righty.

1144
00:37:23,781 --> 00:37:26,181
Roll is chairperson gallo.

1145
00:37:27,335 --> 00:37:27,868
>> I sorry.

1146
00:37:27,868 --> 00:37:28,350
>> apologize, chairperson

1147
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:28,936
gilday.

1148
00:37:28,936 --> 00:37:31,372
It's because I have you both

1149
00:37:31,372 --> 00:37:31,806
together.

1150
00:37:31,806 --> 00:37:32,239
>> I apologize.

1151
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,239
Hear my name?

1152
00:37:34,475 --> 00:37:34,925
Chairperson gilday.

1153
00:37:34,925 --> 00:37:35,342
>> all right.

1154
00:37:35,342 --> 00:37:37,342
Board member gallo.

1155
00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:39,664
Hi.

1156
00:37:39,664 --> 00:37:40,398
Four member capra board member

1157
00:37:40,398 --> 00:37:42,798
ober board member kreps.

1158
00:37:44,234 --> 00:37:44,552
>> hi.

1159
00:37:44,552 --> 00:37:45,503
Okay.

1160
00:37:45,503 --> 00:37:48,690
That that does it mean that

1161
00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:49,558
it's going to happen overnight?

1162
00:37:49,558 --> 00:37:52,526
Just so you know and we don't

1163
00:37:52,526 --> 00:37:53,294
know what that person is going

1164
00:37:53,294 --> 00:37:56,564
to do and so it could linger

1165
00:37:56,564 --> 00:37:56,764
some more but at least the ball

1166
00:37:56,764 --> 00:37:57,498
is rolling.

1167
00:37:57,498 --> 00:37:59,898
Hopefully that'll open some

1168
00:38:03,104 --> 00:38:03,855
eyes and get things moving and

1169
00:38:03,855 --> 00:38:04,288
some things will happen in your

1170
00:38:04,288 --> 00:38:04,509
favor hopefully sooner than

1171
00:38:04,509 --> 00:38:06,509
later.

1172
00:38:06,741 --> 00:38:07,740
So all right.

1173
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:07,625
Thank you.

1174
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:07,842
Thank you for coming.

1175
00:38:07,842 --> 00:38:09,842
Sorry.

1176
00:38:10,595 --> 00:38:13,595
What you're going through there

1177
00:38:14,349 --> 00:38:16,349
right now?

1178
00:38:16,484 --> 00:38:19,484
We'll move backwards to item

1179
00:38:20,355 --> 00:38:20,889
500.

1180
00:38:20,889 --> 00:38:21,839
>> good evening.

1181
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,576
For the record, my name is

1182
00:38:24,576 --> 00:38:25,528
carlos defalco.

1183
00:38:25,528 --> 00:38:28,528
Compliance with city want to

1184
00:38:30,399 --> 00:38:31,149
springs bring case 2026 c00

1185
00:38:31,149 --> 00:38:34,149
0535 across the board to accept

1186
00:38:34,302 --> 00:38:34,519
this presentation into evidence

1187
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:35,453
.

1188
00:38:35,453 --> 00:38:37,706
Address is 530 south mass road

1189
00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:38,356
for violations of city

1190
00:38:38,356 --> 00:38:40,756
ordinance 20 dash four three

1191
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:44,827
for a six authorized commercial

1192
00:38:45,997 --> 00:38:46,748
vehicles and residential area

1193
00:38:46,748 --> 00:38:48,784
or areas sorry one two springs

1194
00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:50,784
ordinance 13 dash two

1195
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:52,254
subsection b prohibitions.

1196
00:38:52,254 --> 00:38:54,254
definition as presented

1197
00:38:58,544 --> 00:38:58,977
definition as presented case

1198
00:38:58,977 --> 00:38:59,494
summary MARCH 17th while

1199
00:38:59,494 --> 00:39:01,494
investigating an inoperable

1200
00:39:03,181 --> 00:39:03,848
commercial vehicle on the right

1201
00:39:03,848 --> 00:39:04,182
of way of south mass road, the

1202
00:39:04,182 --> 00:39:06,182
vehicle registration was

1203
00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:06,824
verified to the reference

1204
00:39:06,824 --> 00:39:07,486
property.

1205
00:39:07,486 --> 00:39:08,153
>> I arrived at the residence

1206
00:39:08,153 --> 00:39:09,672
to contact the owner but the

1207
00:39:09,672 --> 00:39:10,122
property was gated from my

1208
00:39:10,122 --> 00:39:10,639
position I observed another

1209
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,390
commercial vehicle in the

1210
00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:17,379
property rear yard exhibits one

1211
00:39:17,379 --> 00:39:18,147
through two MAY 5th 2026.

1212
00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:20,882
A formal follow up inspection

1213
00:39:20,882 --> 00:39:21,250
was performed to observe

1214
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:21,650
additional commercial vehicles

1215
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:24,500
on the property with

1216
00:39:24,403 --> 00:39:24,703
accumulation of outdoor storage

1217
00:39:24,703 --> 00:39:26,703
and debris.

1218
00:39:27,473 --> 00:39:28,600
Courtesy notice was sent by

1219
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:28,174
usps regular first class

1220
00:39:28,174 --> 00:39:29,959
mailing.

1221
00:39:29,959 --> 00:39:30,692
Exhibits three through four MAY

1222
00:39:30,692 --> 00:39:33,920
11th, 2026 a courtesy notice

1223
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:37,620
was posted at the reference

1224
00:39:37,432 --> 00:39:39,832
property violations remain on

1225
00:39:40,469 --> 00:39:43,469
the property exhibit five I

1226
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:44,773
exhibit one at this time this

1227
00:39:44,773 --> 00:39:48,373
was one vehicle and the rear

1228
00:39:50,980 --> 00:39:51,514
side that vehicle to this day

1229
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:54,514
has remained in that position

1230
00:39:57,820 --> 00:39:58,210
in that condition exhibit

1231
00:39:58,210 --> 00:40:00,210
three.

1232
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:02,441
MAY 5th we see three commercial

1233
00:40:02,441 --> 00:40:04,841
vehicles one obviously the

1234
00:40:05,895 --> 00:40:08,895
drive the driveway is being

1235
00:40:08,965 --> 00:40:09,699
utilized on the rear has a

1236
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:12,699
second vehicle which has been

1237
00:40:13,386 --> 00:40:13,536
there since the time of this

1238
00:40:13,536 --> 00:40:14,453
photo.

1239
00:40:14,453 --> 00:40:17,206
So now we have two remaining

1240
00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:17,874
commercial vehicles on the

1241
00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:20,810
property at all times minus the

1242
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:23,210
one in the driveway.

1243
00:40:23,863 --> 00:40:24,313
There's some accumulation

1244
00:40:24,313 --> 00:40:26,713
beyond the carport area.

1245
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,837
There is some mangled metals,

1246
00:40:30,837 --> 00:40:33,237
cinderblocks, tires just stays

1247
00:40:36,726 --> 00:40:37,460
underneath the tree under

1248
00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:40,460
exhibit five, not really good

1249
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:41,881
shot, but you still see the two

1250
00:40:41,881 --> 00:40:44,451
vehicles there just pan off to

1251
00:40:44,451 --> 00:40:44,835
the right side of the first

1252
00:40:44,835 --> 00:40:45,518
vehicle.

1253
00:40:45,518 --> 00:40:47,370
You'll see the the box of the

1254
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:47,574
other vehicle on JUNE 9th,

1255
00:40:47,574 --> 00:40:48,338
2026.

1256
00:40:48,338 --> 00:40:51,174
>> a follow up inspection was

1257
00:40:51,174 --> 00:40:51,841
performed verified violations

1258
00:40:51,841 --> 00:40:52,575
remain on the property and also

1259
00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:55,429
violation was sent by usps

1260
00:40:55,429 --> 00:40:55,979
certified mailing with return

1261
00:40:55,979 --> 00:40:58,979
receipt requested posted at the

1262
00:40:59,132 --> 00:41:02,132
property in a city hall

1263
00:41:02,619 --> 00:41:02,883
exhibits 6 to 7 JUNE 30th,

1264
00:41:02,883 --> 00:41:03,387
2026.

1265
00:41:03,387 --> 00:41:03,921
A follow up inspection was

1266
00:41:03,921 --> 00:41:05,338
performed to verify the

1267
00:41:05,338 --> 00:41:07,738
violations remain on the

1268
00:41:08,392 --> 00:41:09,420
property exhibits eight JULY

1269
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:12,420
24th 2026 a notice of hearing

1270
00:41:12,112 --> 00:41:12,612
was sent by usps certified

1271
00:41:12,612 --> 00:41:13,460
malware return receipt

1272
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:14,982
requested posted at the

1273
00:41:14,982 --> 00:41:15,532
property near city hall

1274
00:41:15,532 --> 00:41:17,932
violation remains on the

1275
00:41:18,168 --> 00:41:20,568
property exhibits nine through

1276
00:41:28,111 --> 00:41:28,429
13 exhibit six exhibit seven

1277
00:41:28,429 --> 00:41:30,429
exhibit eight.

1278
00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:32,132
Now we have a third vehicle

1279
00:41:32,132 --> 00:41:35,732
panned off to the left hand

1280
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,472
side I believe I can't see from

1281
00:41:38,472 --> 00:41:39,340
here but I believe this slide

1282
00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:42,492
is from JUNE 3rd and this one

1283
00:41:42,492 --> 00:41:44,892
is from JULY 24th.

1284
00:41:46,164 --> 00:41:49,164
So that vehicle still remains

1285
00:41:49,316 --> 00:41:49,850
it appears the debris have been

1286
00:41:49,850 --> 00:41:52,250
either removed or relocated.

1287
00:41:53,638 --> 00:41:54,173
There are some missing at the

1288
00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:54,805
time from the first initial

1289
00:41:54,805 --> 00:41:57,205
inspection, but the rest

1290
00:41:57,659 --> 00:41:59,659
remains.

1291
00:42:01,429 --> 00:42:02,200
I did notice some multiple or

1292
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,730
canisters or propane tanks.

1293
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:04,548
I can't tell exactly what they

1294
00:42:04,548 --> 00:42:05,294
MAY be.

1295
00:42:05,294 --> 00:42:05,852
They're off by the carport

1296
00:42:05,852 --> 00:42:07,852
area.

1297
00:42:08,686 --> 00:42:09,220
There's additional two right

1298
00:42:09,220 --> 00:42:12,220
there, including that red one.

1299
00:42:12,907 --> 00:42:13,858
The fence was observed after

1300
00:42:13,858 --> 00:42:16,911
the fact so I did not cite them

1301
00:42:16,911 --> 00:42:17,795
for that.

1302
00:42:17,795 --> 00:42:18,646
But in the near future of that

1303
00:42:18,646 --> 00:42:20,881
still remains that it's a whole

1304
00:42:20,881 --> 00:42:23,281
different case right there.

1305
00:42:23,735 --> 00:42:26,735
Notice of hearing and staff

1306
00:42:27,388 --> 00:42:27,939
recommendation and staff

1307
00:42:27,939 --> 00:42:28,472
recommends the code enforcement

1308
00:42:28,472 --> 00:42:31,472
board find the property in

1309
00:42:31,842 --> 00:42:33,879
violation of city ordinance 20

1310
00:42:33,879 --> 00:42:34,763
dash 434 and city ordinance 13

1311
00:42:34,763 --> 00:42:35,197
dash two b to be corrected in a

1312
00:42:35,197 --> 00:42:37,597
property brought to compliance

1313
00:42:38,330 --> 00:42:38,583
on or before SEPTEMBER 24th

1314
00:42:38,583 --> 00:42:40,583
2026 30 days and consider

1315
00:42:41,954 --> 00:42:42,603
imposition of a daily fine of

1316
00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:45,603
250 per violation per day and

1317
00:42:45,674 --> 00:42:46,524
then event the requirements of

1318
00:42:46,524 --> 00:42:47,175
the order to have not been met

1319
00:42:47,175 --> 00:42:50,280
by the date set for compliance

1320
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,960
by the code enforcement board.

1321
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,296
>> can you pull up the data for

1322
00:42:56,785 --> 00:42:58,785
photos please?

1323
00:43:00,488 --> 00:43:00,889
>> so this was taken this

1324
00:43:00,889 --> 00:43:02,889
morning.

1325
00:43:07,596 --> 00:43:08,330
The vehicle has to right there

1326
00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:11,330
and those canisters or tanks

1327
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,360
are still there.

1328
00:43:20,459 --> 00:43:21,259
So there

1329
00:43:21,259 --> 00:43:23,659
they appear as they

1330
00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:25,557
try to organize that space with

1331
00:43:25,557 --> 00:43:27,557
the accumulation.

1332
00:43:27,833 --> 00:43:32,330
But we still got car parts and

1333
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:34,870
other stuff there.

1334
00:43:35,570 --> 00:43:35,674
Yard debris was noticed after

1335
00:43:35,674 --> 00:43:37,944
the initial inspection, but

1336
00:43:37,944 --> 00:43:40,913
that has been there for about I

1337
00:43:40,913 --> 00:43:41,881
think 2 or 3 weeks now.

1338
00:43:41,881 --> 00:43:44,951
>> now it's very hard to see

1339
00:43:44,951 --> 00:43:45,367
what in between the building

1340
00:43:45,367 --> 00:43:46,135
and the tree.

1341
00:43:46,135 --> 00:43:46,669
I can't tell if that's a

1342
00:43:46,669 --> 00:43:49,690
commercial vehicle or an

1343
00:43:49,621 --> 00:43:50,289
enclosed trailer, but at the

1344
00:43:50,289 --> 00:43:52,941
height of it I'm going to

1345
00:43:52,941 --> 00:43:53,693
assume as a commercial vehicle

1346
00:43:53,693 --> 00:43:54,260
it's right in that area where

1347
00:43:54,260 --> 00:43:56,260
she's circling at.

1348
00:43:59,815 --> 00:44:03,415
But again, I can only speculate

1349
00:44:04,404 --> 00:44:04,937
and that's it.

1350
00:44:04,937 --> 00:44:05,237
>> that concludes our

1351
00:44:05,237 --> 00:44:05,705
presentation.

1352
00:44:05,705 --> 00:44:08,157
Do you have any questions?

1353
00:44:08,157 --> 00:44:09,141
What kind of dialog?

1354
00:44:09,141 --> 00:44:12,111
>> I had one and it was a

1355
00:44:12,111 --> 00:44:13,262
relative of the owner.

1356
00:44:13,262 --> 00:44:15,815
>> it was a son who advised

1357
00:44:15,815 --> 00:44:16,186
that they were away I believe

1358
00:44:16,186 --> 00:44:18,186
was vacation.

1359
00:44:19,502 --> 00:44:20,453
I'm not too sure they needed

1360
00:44:20,453 --> 00:44:23,639
some time so they was given an

1361
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:24,900
extension and they said he was

1362
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:25,410
going to clear everything up.

1363
00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:27,493
I did notify them about the

1364
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:27,851
commercial vehicles being a

1365
00:44:27,851 --> 00:44:28,678
violation.

1366
00:44:28,678 --> 00:44:31,948
I guess it was some sort of

1367
00:44:31,948 --> 00:44:32,316
business that they had at one

1368
00:44:32,316 --> 00:44:33,490
time or another.

1369
00:44:33,490 --> 00:44:35,601
I'm not too sure they said he

1370
00:44:35,601 --> 00:44:35,819
was taking they will take care

1371
00:44:35,819 --> 00:44:36,686
of it.

1372
00:44:36,686 --> 00:44:38,722
But obviously as of today is

1373
00:44:38,722 --> 00:44:39,389
still has not been moved.

1374
00:44:39,389 --> 00:44:42,389
So and that's the only

1375
00:44:42,542 --> 00:44:43,476
communication I've had since

1376
00:44:43,476 --> 00:44:46,512
because is that the property is

1377
00:44:46,512 --> 00:44:47,320
occupied.

1378
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,416
Yeah.

1379
00:44:47,416 --> 00:44:47,959
All right.

1380
00:44:47,959 --> 00:44:49,849
Looks like it's occupied

1381
00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:50,439
residentially not it's not a

1382
00:44:50,439 --> 00:44:50,979
business they're running out of

1383
00:44:50,979 --> 00:44:51,512
there.

1384
00:44:51,512 --> 00:44:53,703
>> I have not seen any

1385
00:44:53,703 --> 00:44:56,103
advertising as a business.

1386
00:44:57,307 --> 00:44:57,824
I can only assume maybe

1387
00:44:57,824 --> 00:44:58,775
delivery services or something.

1388
00:44:58,775 --> 00:45:01,628
But that is being as a

1389
00:45:01,628 --> 00:45:02,680
residential property for a

1390
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,680
living.

1391
00:45:04,497 --> 00:45:05,365
>> okay.

1392
00:45:05,365 --> 00:45:05,631
>> when did you talk with that

1393
00:45:05,631 --> 00:45:07,631
relative?

1394
00:45:08,518 --> 00:45:09,353
What?

1395
00:45:09,353 --> 00:45:09,603
>> that was back in JUNE, if

1396
00:45:09,603 --> 00:45:11,603
i'm not mistaken.

1397
00:45:12,573 --> 00:45:12,837
I will have to look at my notes

1398
00:45:12,837 --> 00:45:13,110
.

1399
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:14,157
>> okay.

1400
00:45:14,157 --> 00:45:16,926
I think it was the beginning of

1401
00:45:16,926 --> 00:45:17,811
the beginning or mid-JUNE and I

1402
00:45:17,811 --> 00:45:20,447
think an extra 2 or 3 weeks was

1403
00:45:20,447 --> 00:45:20,869
given to them.

1404
00:45:20,869 --> 00:45:21,632
Okay.

1405
00:45:21,632 --> 00:45:23,751
And that has not been no

1406
00:45:23,751 --> 00:45:26,151
changes whatsoever from there.

1407
00:45:26,603 --> 00:45:28,603
>> okay.

1408
00:45:30,874 --> 00:45:32,874
Questions.

1409
00:45:34,945 --> 00:45:35,712
No respondents here.

1410
00:45:35,712 --> 00:45:38,866
Anything down from you folks as

1411
00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:39,417
you guys can expect?

1412
00:45:39,417 --> 00:45:41,585
Who's asking for respect?

1413
00:45:41,585 --> 00:45:44,585
Is there a respondent present?

1414
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,261
>> not that I can tell from

1415
00:45:50,261 --> 00:45:52,261
what I know.

1416
00:45:53,715 --> 00:45:54,482
Question no questions.

1417
00:45:54,482 --> 00:45:57,340
>> if somebody wants to present

1418
00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:57,368
a motion I do have a question.

1419
00:45:57,368 --> 00:45:57,685
I'm sorry.

1420
00:45:57,685 --> 00:45:59,685
Go ahead.

1421
00:46:00,872 --> 00:46:01,589
You said there were checks.

1422
00:46:01,589 --> 00:46:01,864
>> I guess they are propane

1423
00:46:01,864 --> 00:46:02,270
tanks.

1424
00:46:02,270 --> 00:46:04,270
Okay.

1425
00:46:05,393 --> 00:46:06,600
Yeah, I was so even know that

1426
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,812
right now I don't know exactly

1427
00:46:07,812 --> 00:46:08,345
the use of I'm allowed to have

1428
00:46:08,345 --> 00:46:09,130
them so that's consider outdoor

1429
00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:11,866
storage is no different from a

1430
00:46:11,866 --> 00:46:12,443
previous case we have one over

1431
00:46:12,443 --> 00:46:14,843
now they're storing multiple.

1432
00:46:15,486 --> 00:46:16,220
I don't know if that's

1433
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:19,220
pertaining to their business if

1434
00:46:19,591 --> 00:46:20,324
they have a business but the

1435
00:46:20,324 --> 00:46:22,994
first time I made observation

1436
00:46:22,994 --> 00:46:23,645
on it I did not see one and

1437
00:46:23,645 --> 00:46:24,378
then a second inspection I saw

1438
00:46:24,378 --> 00:46:27,480
multiple so I don't exactly

1439
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:27,749
know the use for them.

1440
00:46:27,749 --> 00:46:28,682
I don't know if it's personal.

1441
00:46:28,682 --> 00:46:29,801
I don't know if it's commercial

1442
00:46:29,801 --> 00:46:31,801
for the business.

1443
00:46:33,871 --> 00:46:34,639
I don't know.

1444
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:38,900
Just out of curiosity, can you

1445
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:38,543
look up to see if there's a

1446
00:46:38,543 --> 00:46:40,543
business permit for 530

1447
00:46:44,782 --> 00:46:45,213
southwest road

1448
00:46:45,213 --> 00:46:45,565
?

1449
00:46:45,565 --> 00:46:46,330
Unfortunately cannot because I

1450
00:46:46,330 --> 00:46:46,430
don't have access to our

1451
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:48,430
business license.

1452
00:46:49,338 --> 00:46:49,665
I don't have it off the civic

1453
00:46:49,665 --> 00:46:50,104
portal.

1454
00:46:50,104 --> 00:46:50,322
>> not on this computer,

1455
00:46:50,322 --> 00:46:51,840
unfortunately.

1456
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,840
Okay.

1457
00:46:56,211 --> 00:46:56,645
>> maybe your deputy chief

1458
00:46:56,645 --> 00:46:56,978
presley might have that

1459
00:46:56,978 --> 00:46:58,978
information if needed.

1460
00:47:03,101 --> 00:47:06,101
>> he's about to walk in.

1461
00:47:06,988 --> 00:47:10,588
And welcome to our city clerk.

1462
00:47:11,493 --> 00:47:11,932
>> I'm sorry I did not hear the

1463
00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:12,477
question.

1464
00:47:12,477 --> 00:47:15,247
>> so the question was do you

1465
00:47:15,247 --> 00:47:16,810
is there any way we know if

1466
00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:19,668
there is a business permit are

1467
00:47:19,668 --> 00:47:22,668
licensed at 530 south mass road

1468
00:47:23,155 --> 00:47:23,822
so he's want to know if you

1469
00:47:23,822 --> 00:47:24,656
have the ability go in and go

1470
00:47:24,656 --> 00:47:28,256
can you go with this that

1471
00:47:29,945 --> 00:47:32,898
donation in a btr yeah your

1472
00:47:32,898 --> 00:47:33,532
yeah I apologize for the

1473
00:47:33,532 --> 00:47:34,199
residential one that you can

1474
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,952
look up from this computer I

1475
00:47:36,952 --> 00:47:37,272
only see permit so I apologize

1476
00:47:37,272 --> 00:47:37,719
on that.

1477
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,719
>> apologize no.

1478
00:47:40,873 --> 00:47:41,440
Where is to get you some kind

1479
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:41,874
of we need to get you

1480
00:47:41,874 --> 00:47:44,274
connectivity to the city.

1481
00:47:48,564 --> 00:47:50,564
>> yeah if you

1482
00:48:00,493 --> 00:48:00,721
if the court

1483
00:48:00,721 --> 00:48:01,794
doesn't mind.

1484
00:48:01,794 --> 00:48:04,230
>> can I also ask a question of

1485
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:05,980
the city?

1486
00:48:05,980 --> 00:48:08,510
>> so I just wanted to clarify

1487
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:08,801
about the commercial vehicles

1488
00:48:08,801 --> 00:48:12,401
is the main issue that there's

1489
00:48:12,488 --> 00:48:13,156
multiple on the property or are

1490
00:48:13,156 --> 00:48:13,555
they do they fall into what are

1491
00:48:13,555 --> 00:48:14,306
the categories that are like

1492
00:48:14,306 --> 00:48:16,325
too large to be at a

1493
00:48:16,325 --> 00:48:16,992
residential property?

1494
00:48:16,992 --> 00:48:17,626
Both I think they're just

1495
00:48:17,626 --> 00:48:20,260
storing multiple even having

1496
00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:20,997
just one I think exceeds the

1497
00:48:20,997 --> 00:48:21,238
size.

1498
00:48:21,238 --> 00:48:21,473
>> gotcha.

1499
00:48:21,473 --> 00:48:23,473
Okay.

1500
00:48:27,704 --> 00:48:29,704
Thanks

1501
00:48:31,407 --> 00:48:33,407
.

1502
00:48:35,311 --> 00:48:38,800
In answer to for you, you did

1503
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:38,715
stated just that you you only

1504
00:48:38,715 --> 00:48:41,715
had one conversation and that

1505
00:48:42,703 --> 00:48:43,144
was not with the owner but with

1506
00:48:43,144 --> 00:48:43,700
the owner's son.

1507
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,700
Correct.

1508
00:48:46,289 --> 00:48:46,606
Okay.

1509
00:48:46,606 --> 00:48:48,424
Okay.

1510
00:48:48,424 --> 00:48:50,424
So okay.

1511
00:48:54,881 --> 00:48:56,881
Thank you

1512
00:49:14,434 --> 00:49:15,385
.

1513
00:49:15,385 --> 00:49:18,385
>> any attempts to contact you

1514
00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:22,410
the to clarify any of this if

1515
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:22,693
they have tried to reach out to

1516
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:25,963
me and leave a voicemail, then

1517
00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:26,563
I would assume not only one

1518
00:49:26,563 --> 00:49:26,964
time I had a conversation with

1519
00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:27,293
them.

1520
00:49:27,293 --> 00:49:29,293
Okay.

1521
00:49:29,733 --> 00:49:30,684
Thank you.

1522
00:49:30,684 --> 00:49:31,100
I do not see a vtr for that.

1523
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:32,636
Thank you.

1524
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,636
Thank you.

1525
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,760
Anything else

1526
00:49:41,294 --> 00:49:41,614
you can keep it?

1527
00:49:41,614 --> 00:49:43,614
Yeah.

1528
00:49:45,882 --> 00:49:50,820
I'm trying to think of a time

1529
00:49:51,922 --> 00:49:53,607
frame

1530
00:49:53,607 --> 00:49:54,115
.

1531
00:49:54,115 --> 00:49:54,483
There wasn't much

1532
00:49:54,483 --> 00:49:56,483
communication.

1533
00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:00,828
It's been since mid-JUNE and

1534
00:50:05,486 --> 00:50:07,888
this is a new case

1535
00:50:07,888 --> 00:50:08,270
.

1536
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:08,632
Correct.

1537
00:50:08,632 --> 00:50:10,632
Off the couch?

1538
00:50:10,975 --> 00:50:11,859
Yeah.

1539
00:50:11,859 --> 00:50:14,912
I would still be in 30 days.

1540
00:50:14,912 --> 00:50:15,729
Yeah, I would do.

1541
00:50:15,729 --> 00:50:16,160
This is not a big deal.

1542
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,381
Yeah.

1543
00:50:16,381 --> 00:50:18,381
All right.

1544
00:50:19,734 --> 00:50:20,241
And his place, it's thought

1545
00:50:20,241 --> 00:50:20,594
that would be something.

1546
00:50:20,594 --> 00:50:22,594
yeah.

1547
00:50:26,207 --> 00:50:29,861
Um, okay, so I move to find

1548
00:50:29,861 --> 00:50:30,595
that the photographs and

1549
00:50:30,595 --> 00:50:32,995
testimony from officer dafoe

1550
00:50:34,465 --> 00:50:37,318
show there are in fact findings

1551
00:50:37,318 --> 00:50:39,718
that the respondent at 530

1552
00:50:41,289 --> 00:50:41,823
south morse road is in

1553
00:50:41,823 --> 00:50:44,223
violation of winter springs

1554
00:50:45,276 --> 00:50:47,312
city ordinance 20 dash four

1555
00:50:47,312 --> 00:50:50,312
three subsection a six and

1556
00:50:51,366 --> 00:50:53,766
winter springs city ordinance

1557
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:58,500
13 dash two subsection be of

1558
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,375
the city code I move can you

1559
00:51:01,375 --> 00:51:02,440
just restate the ordinance

1560
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:02,317
number for that first one the

1561
00:51:02,317 --> 00:51:04,950
commercial vehicles.

1562
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:04,611
Yeah.

1563
00:51:04,611 --> 00:51:06,611
Ordinance resetting winter

1564
00:51:08,183 --> 00:51:10,583
springs city ordinance 20 dash

1565
00:51:11,336 --> 00:51:11,703
434 subsection a six.

1566
00:51:11,703 --> 00:51:12,280
Correct.

1567
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:12,400
Yeah that's good.

1568
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:12,741
Okay.

1569
00:51:12,741 --> 00:51:14,741
Yeah.

1570
00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:16,400
Thank you.

1571
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,640
I move to order that the

1572
00:51:27,970 --> 00:51:28,771
respondent be given until the

1573
00:51:28,771 --> 00:51:31,171
SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 to correct

1574
00:51:32,541 --> 00:51:33,175
the violation in the event that

1575
00:51:33,175 --> 00:51:36,175
respondent fails to comply by

1576
00:51:36,745 --> 00:51:40,945
this date a fine in the amount

1577
00:51:42,852 --> 00:51:45,852
of $100 per day shall be

1578
00:51:46,422 --> 00:51:48,822
imposed per violation until

1579
00:51:49,375 --> 00:51:50,900
compliance is reported to and

1580
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:52,409
verified by city code

1581
00:51:57,616 --> 00:51:57,918
enforcement 100 I would second

1582
00:51:57,918 --> 00:51:58,152
that motion.

1583
00:51:58,152 --> 00:52:00,152
Okay.

1584
00:52:01,303 --> 00:52:01,718
Any discussion?

1585
00:52:01,718 --> 00:52:03,718
Okay.

1586
00:52:04,573 --> 00:52:05,124
Roll call.

1587
00:52:05,124 --> 00:52:07,524
Chairperson gilday all right.

1588
00:52:09,112 --> 00:52:09,544
Or member gallo I form keppra I

1589
00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:09,940
for member of bear.

1590
00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:11,940
All right.

1591
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:16,750
Board member krebbs okay.

1592
00:52:18,204 --> 00:52:20,204
All right.

1593
00:52:22,275 --> 00:52:23,242
Come.

1594
00:52:23,242 --> 00:52:26,596
That brings us to the end of

1595
00:52:26,596 --> 00:52:29,596
hearing some cases where there

1596
00:52:30,266 --> 00:52:30,700
is there any other information

1597
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:31,430
detail questions, comments,

1598
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:31,266
concerns.

1599
00:52:31,266 --> 00:52:33,266
Yes, sir.

1600
00:52:33,469 --> 00:52:35,469
Go ahead.

1601
00:52:37,423 --> 00:52:38,157
At the last two commission

1602
00:52:38,157 --> 00:52:40,557
meetings there has been

1603
00:52:41,511 --> 00:52:42,229
discussion about the

1604
00:52:42,229 --> 00:52:44,629
appointment of a special

1605
00:52:45,799 --> 00:52:48,799
magistrate to replace the code

1606
00:52:49,686 --> 00:52:51,621
enforcement board at a cost to

1607
00:52:51,621 --> 00:52:52,380
the city of approximately

1608
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:52,906
$10,000 per year.

1609
00:52:52,906 --> 00:52:55,541
That was the amount that they

1610
00:52:55,541 --> 00:52:57,541
claim to.

1611
00:52:59,329 --> 00:53:02,329
We've been through this before

1612
00:53:02,565 --> 00:53:05,565
during my tenure and personally

1613
00:53:06,953 --> 00:53:07,704
and I'm not saying this because

1614
00:53:07,704 --> 00:53:10,674
I'm a member of this code board

1615
00:53:10,674 --> 00:53:10,824
and have been for a number of

1616
00:53:10,824 --> 00:53:11,658
years.

1617
00:53:11,658 --> 00:53:14,895
But I'm saying it because there

1618
00:53:14,895 --> 00:53:16,646
is a tremendous difference

1619
00:53:16,646 --> 00:53:19,460
between a special magistrate

1620
00:53:20,701 --> 00:53:21,251
and a code board.

1621
00:53:21,251 --> 00:53:23,651
This code board serves

1622
00:53:24,705 --> 00:53:25,438
voluntarily and we've volunteer

1623
00:53:25,438 --> 00:53:28,709
because we take pride in this

1624
00:53:28,709 --> 00:53:29,476
community and we have a love

1625
00:53:29,476 --> 00:53:32,929
for this city and we're not out

1626
00:53:32,929 --> 00:53:33,697
to punish people.

1627
00:53:33,697 --> 00:53:35,833
We're out to educate people and

1628
00:53:35,833 --> 00:53:36,340
to help bring people back into

1629
00:53:36,340 --> 00:53:36,700
compliance.

1630
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,700
There have been many, many

1631
00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:43,530
times when people have come

1632
00:53:43,924 --> 00:53:44,541
before this board with

1633
00:53:44,541 --> 00:53:46,941
difficulties and we've given

1634
00:53:48,195 --> 00:53:50,595
them extended opportunities to

1635
00:53:51,982 --> 00:53:52,516
correct violations and we've

1636
00:53:52,516 --> 00:53:55,270
bent over backwards and gone

1637
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:59,373
out of our way to help people

1638
00:53:59,373 --> 00:54:02,927
at times there MAY seem to be

1639
00:54:02,927 --> 00:54:05,927
disparities in how we assess

1640
00:54:07,114 --> 00:54:10,584
fines and how we do things, but

1641
00:54:10,584 --> 00:54:11,402
there is always thought and

1642
00:54:11,402 --> 00:54:13,802
fortitude in our decision

1643
00:54:13,838 --> 00:54:14,789
making.

1644
00:54:14,789 --> 00:54:17,842
We take many, many we take

1645
00:54:17,842 --> 00:54:19,842
multiple factors into

1646
00:54:20,678 --> 00:54:21,395
consideration including

1647
00:54:21,395 --> 00:54:23,795
cooperation with the code

1648
00:54:25,165 --> 00:54:27,165
enforcement debater, including

1649
00:54:28,936 --> 00:54:29,370
how people present themselves,

1650
00:54:29,370 --> 00:54:31,770
including the attitude that

1651
00:54:32,223 --> 00:54:32,790
they come to or that they don't

1652
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:33,700
even show up to the board.

1653
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:35,700
Correct.

1654
00:54:36,995 --> 00:54:40,595
So all of these factors become

1655
00:54:41,165 --> 00:54:44,190
part of how we assess fines.

1656
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:44,653
I don't know that any special

1657
00:54:44,653 --> 00:54:47,530
magistrate would have the

1658
00:54:48,423 --> 00:54:48,756
compassion that we do towards

1659
00:54:48,756 --> 00:54:50,756
our fellow citizens.

1660
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,295
I don't know that they come to

1661
00:54:53,295 --> 00:54:56,295
this with the same concern

1662
00:54:56,348 --> 00:54:57,150
caring that we do.

1663
00:54:57,150 --> 00:54:59,251
We come here as volunteers

1664
00:54:59,251 --> 00:54:59,801
because we love the community.

1665
00:54:59,801 --> 00:55:02,201
Special magistrate is getting

1666
00:55:03,288 --> 00:55:06,410
paid to do a job and I know

1667
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:09,410
that there have been concerns

1668
00:55:10,529 --> 00:55:13,529
that for for our personal

1669
00:55:14,182 --> 00:55:14,800
safety that perhaps a

1670
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,200
respondent would try to

1671
00:55:18,486 --> 00:55:20,886
retaliate and take action

1672
00:55:20,956 --> 00:55:21,790
against us in the many, many

1673
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:25,260
years and I've been sitting on

1674
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:25,577
this board, I completed nine

1675
00:55:25,577 --> 00:55:27,577
full years.

1676
00:55:29,165 --> 00:55:29,598
I was off for a year and now

1677
00:55:29,598 --> 00:55:31,998
I'm back on again.

1678
00:55:32,585 --> 00:55:33,235
So in the 11 years that I've

1679
00:55:33,235 --> 00:55:35,471
been sitting on this board, I

1680
00:55:35,471 --> 00:55:38,471
have never once been threatened

1681
00:55:38,957 --> 00:55:39,341
or felt intimidated by any

1682
00:55:39,341 --> 00:55:41,341
respondent.

1683
00:55:43,546 --> 00:55:46,615
So I think I, I really believe

1684
00:55:46,615 --> 00:55:50,215
that this board should take a

1685
00:55:50,602 --> 00:55:51,453
vote should take a vote and to

1686
00:55:51,453 --> 00:55:54,923
stay in a stance to encourage

1687
00:55:54,923 --> 00:55:57,593
the city to maintain the code

1688
00:55:57,593 --> 00:55:57,860
enforcement board in lieu of a

1689
00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:59,860
special magistrate.

1690
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:05,401
And I would make that a motion.

1691
00:56:05,401 --> 00:56:05,619
It is if this board so desires

1692
00:56:05,619 --> 00:56:06,385
.

1693
00:56:06,385 --> 00:56:06,702
Let's do it as a motion and

1694
00:56:06,702 --> 00:56:08,702
make it official.

1695
00:56:08,988 --> 00:56:12,740
Yeah, but before we do that,

1696
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:12,892
before we do that, I would ask

1697
00:56:12,892 --> 00:56:15,292
chief pressley what the

1698
00:56:19,782 --> 00:56:20,549
department's viewpoint is.

1699
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:23,549
>> that's hard for them because

1700
00:56:23,736 --> 00:56:24,486
it's going yeah, yeah, I have

1701
00:56:24,486 --> 00:56:25,220
no I mean I obviously have an

1702
00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:27,657
opinion but it's not my

1703
00:56:27,657 --> 00:56:28,541
decision.

1704
00:56:28,541 --> 00:56:31,694
This topic has come up in the

1705
00:56:31,694 --> 00:56:32,280
past with most of the members

1706
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,280
on this board.

1707
00:56:34,681 --> 00:56:35,531
You know when there were rumors

1708
00:56:35,531 --> 00:56:38,568
or discussions about going to a

1709
00:56:38,568 --> 00:56:39,118
special magistrate.

1710
00:56:39,118 --> 00:56:41,518
Safety is a concern.

1711
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:43,673
I mean, I'm a police officer

1712
00:56:43,673 --> 00:56:43,890
and a police officer for almost

1713
00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:45,890
31 years.

1714
00:56:46,843 --> 00:56:47,377
There's cases around the

1715
00:56:47,377 --> 00:56:50,377
country where, you know, board

1716
00:56:50,546 --> 00:56:51,398
members of all different types

1717
00:56:51,398 --> 00:56:54,167
of boards have been hurt and

1718
00:56:54,167 --> 00:56:57,336
and you know, I don't think me

1719
00:56:57,336 --> 00:56:57,737
personally it's not an issue of

1720
00:56:57,737 --> 00:56:59,737
any unfairness.

1721
00:57:01,608 --> 00:57:02,420
There's some potential

1722
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:04,442
efficiency things that might

1723
00:57:05,712 --> 00:57:06,263
make it a little more efficient

1724
00:57:06,263 --> 00:57:08,899
if it's during business hours

1725
00:57:08,899 --> 00:57:09,666
for city staff.

1726
00:57:09,666 --> 00:57:09,999
You know, that's kind of my

1727
00:57:09,999 --> 00:57:11,999
take on it.

1728
00:57:12,552 --> 00:57:13,303
But ultimately at the end of

1729
00:57:13,303 --> 00:57:14,370
the day it's not my decision.

1730
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:16,437
You know, it's the

1731
00:57:16,889 --> 00:57:17,858
commissioner's decision.

1732
00:57:17,858 --> 00:57:18,760
So we we we and I appreciate

1733
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,760
your opinion.

1734
00:57:21,362 --> 00:57:21,812
I mean, I, I really do and I

1735
00:57:21,812 --> 00:57:24,212
thank you for it.

1736
00:57:25,298 --> 00:57:25,866
I thank you also for all the

1737
00:57:25,866 --> 00:57:26,320
hard work that you do on your

1738
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:26,299
behalf.

1739
00:57:26,299 --> 00:57:28,299
>> sure.

1740
00:57:28,869 --> 00:57:31,939
And we'll continue to do that

1741
00:57:31,939 --> 00:57:32,489
regardless of, you know and you

1742
00:57:32,489 --> 00:57:35,489
know, you talk about being

1743
00:57:35,943 --> 00:57:38,943
compassionate and I mean, I

1744
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:43,613
can't express enough of what my

1745
00:57:44,101 --> 00:57:44,364
staff does before it even gets

1746
00:57:44,364 --> 00:57:46,364
here today.

1747
00:57:47,605 --> 00:57:47,804
I mean, there's so many chances

1748
00:57:47,804 --> 00:57:48,538
.

1749
00:57:48,538 --> 00:57:50,938
We're so accommodating and

1750
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:52,560
obviously regardless of the

1751
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,560
outcome, we'll continue to do

1752
00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:56,347
that for sure.

1753
00:57:56,347 --> 00:57:57,414
>> absolutely.

1754
00:57:57,414 --> 00:58:00,184
We we know we know that even in

1755
00:58:00,184 --> 00:58:02,584
law enforcement, the chief's

1756
00:58:02,837 --> 00:58:03,454
position has always been I'm

1757
00:58:03,454 --> 00:58:03,988
not here to punish.

1758
00:58:03,988 --> 00:58:04,822
I'm here to educate.

1759
00:58:04,822 --> 00:58:07,570
Sure, it's the same thing with

1760
00:58:07,570 --> 00:58:07,491
the traffic stop.

1761
00:58:07,491 --> 00:58:08,142
Somebody gets stopped.

1762
00:58:08,142 --> 00:58:11,142
It's not to punish them.

1763
00:58:11,229 --> 00:58:11,523
It's to educate them as to what

1764
00:58:11,523 --> 00:58:12,196
goes on.

1765
00:58:12,196 --> 00:58:15,330
Sometimes if fine is necessary,

1766
00:58:15,330 --> 00:58:15,899
sure.

1767
00:58:15,899 --> 00:58:19,170
But I don't know that the

1768
00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:19,820
special magistrate would would

1769
00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:20,400
come with the same kinds of

1770
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,400
concerns.

1771
00:58:22,824 --> 00:58:23,441
So you know, if I would make a

1772
00:58:23,441 --> 00:58:25,841
motion that this board

1773
00:58:26,310 --> 00:58:28,710
officially request from the

1774
00:58:29,964 --> 00:58:30,715
city commission that we

1775
00:58:30,715 --> 00:58:34,680
continue as a board and that

1776
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:34,585
any ideas of a special

1777
00:58:34,585 --> 00:58:36,437
magistrate be dropped.

1778
00:58:36,437 --> 00:58:36,755
I was second that.

1779
00:58:36,755 --> 00:58:38,755
All right.

1780
00:58:40,408 --> 00:58:40,578
A discussion discussion,

1781
00:58:40,578 --> 00:58:42,578
please.

1782
00:58:44,211 --> 00:58:45,960
I, I, I totally agree with you.

1783
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:45,930
But I think when you send that

1784
00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:48,516
to a commission, you need to

1785
00:58:48,516 --> 00:58:48,667
send the reasons why we believe

1786
00:58:48,667 --> 00:58:50,667
that.

1787
00:58:51,202 --> 00:58:52,170
I mean, you know, you can sit

1788
00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:55,140
up here with a robot and say I

1789
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:55,340
and that's what you're going to

1790
00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:56,190
get.

1791
00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:59,260
You know, here you get people

1792
00:58:59,260 --> 00:58:59,877
who listen to whatever is

1793
00:58:59,877 --> 00:59:02,113
happening even in someone's

1794
00:59:02,113 --> 00:59:02,998
life.

1795
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,234
I mean, you know, there's a lot

1796
00:59:06,234 --> 00:59:06,784
of different things and

1797
00:59:06,784 --> 00:59:07,636
sometimes and we've even had

1798
00:59:07,636 --> 00:59:10,606
people who are in the process

1799
00:59:10,606 --> 00:59:11,356
of of reaching compliance but

1800
00:59:11,356 --> 00:59:13,391
they're not there yet when they

1801
00:59:13,391 --> 00:59:14,142
come here.

1802
00:59:14,142 --> 00:59:17,128
I mean, what do you do?

1803
00:59:17,128 --> 00:59:21,116
You say, well, you know, so I

1804
00:59:21,116 --> 00:59:21,750
yeah, I think we should have a

1805
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:24,750
explanation and there yeah as

1806
00:59:25,537 --> 00:59:25,804
well I, I agree with

1807
00:59:25,804 --> 00:59:27,804
commissioner krebs.

1808
00:59:29,441 --> 00:59:29,674
I and I, I think I'm speaking

1809
00:59:29,674 --> 00:59:31,674
for myself.

1810
00:59:33,545 --> 00:59:34,179
I would be very comfortable

1811
00:59:34,179 --> 00:59:37,179
with rabbi caprio speaking to

1812
00:59:37,450 --> 00:59:38,990
the commission and giving them

1813
00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:40,453
the results of our vote because

1814
00:59:40,453 --> 00:59:41,103
everything you said I totally

1815
00:59:41,103 --> 00:59:44,573
agree with and I couldn't say

1816
00:59:44,573 --> 00:59:44,890
it any better than what you

1817
00:59:44,890 --> 00:59:45,224
just said yourself.

1818
00:59:45,224 --> 00:59:47,224
That's true.

1819
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:48,178
So that would that would be my

1820
00:59:48,178 --> 00:59:50,178
request.

1821
00:59:51,814 --> 00:59:51,963
I agree and I will happily do

1822
00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:53,963
that.

1823
00:59:55,301 --> 00:59:55,717
In fact, public performances

1824
00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:56,585
for public disclosure.

1825
00:59:56,585 --> 00:59:59,338
I have a meeting with the city

1826
00:59:59,338 --> 00:59:59,772
manager tomorrow morning and

1827
00:59:59,772 --> 01:00:00,106
discuss this very topic.

1828
01:00:00,106 --> 01:00:02,106
Okay, good.

1829
01:00:03,175 --> 01:00:06,775
Thank I am this issue reared

1830
01:00:07,163 --> 01:00:10,633
its head a few times and I know

1831
01:00:10,633 --> 01:00:11,266
the last time it was driven

1832
01:00:11,266 --> 01:00:13,736
specifically by one of the

1833
01:00:13,736 --> 01:00:14,270
commissioners I don't know if

1834
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:17,270
more have gotten hold or

1835
01:00:17,957 --> 01:00:20,626
whatnot, but um, I, I concur

1836
01:00:20,626 --> 01:00:21,277
with the reasons that you have

1837
01:00:21,277 --> 01:00:24,877
stated here and that that's I

1838
01:00:25,164 --> 01:00:28,534
think the crux of why I feel I

1839
01:00:28,534 --> 01:00:32,734
mean the way I do it's quite

1840
01:00:32,939 --> 01:00:33,773
frankly if we're going to have

1841
01:00:33,773 --> 01:00:37,600
the cases that people are just

1842
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:37,927
going to blow it off and

1843
01:00:37,927 --> 01:00:40,763
totally get a wake up call, you

1844
01:00:40,763 --> 01:00:41,514
know what?

1845
01:00:41,514 --> 01:00:43,967
Maybe maybe it's your team or

1846
01:00:43,967 --> 01:00:44,501
you talking to them and

1847
01:00:44,501 --> 01:00:45,168
sometimes they end up here

1848
01:00:45,168 --> 01:00:48,138
because they want to listen to

1849
01:00:48,138 --> 01:00:48,855
that and just get in here is

1850
01:00:48,855 --> 01:00:51,624
like I MISS A lot of money.

1851
01:00:51,624 --> 01:00:52,275
Maybe I better get going.

1852
01:00:52,275 --> 01:00:54,627
Sometimes the ones that don't

1853
01:00:54,627 --> 01:00:55,378
show up, it's going to take

1854
01:00:55,378 --> 01:00:58,978
take the fine to get going.

1855
01:00:59,650 --> 01:01:00,160
Yeah, but there's an awful lot

1856
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,319
of folks that do come here that

1857
01:01:03,319 --> 01:01:04,170
yes, that I think it's not that

1858
01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:06,707
they're trying to get away with

1859
01:01:06,707 --> 01:01:07,590
something.

1860
01:01:07,590 --> 01:01:07,807
I'm trying to blow both of you

1861
01:01:07,807 --> 01:01:09,807
guys off.

1862
01:01:10,277 --> 01:01:10,777
How many how many cases just on

1863
01:01:10,777 --> 01:01:11,940
insurance alone have we heard

1864
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:13,940
over the years?

1865
01:01:13,747 --> 01:01:15,747
Sure.

1866
01:01:17,650 --> 01:01:18,618
I mean you pick a reason we we

1867
01:01:18,618 --> 01:01:21,989
we we seem to have heard it and

1868
01:01:21,989 --> 01:01:22,539
I think you're going to MISS A

1869
01:01:22,539 --> 01:01:24,791
lot of that where compassion

1870
01:01:24,791 --> 01:01:25,558
does have a role that's going

1871
01:01:25,558 --> 01:01:25,758
to be out the window with the

1872
01:01:25,758 --> 01:01:27,758
magistrate.

1873
01:01:29,346 --> 01:01:32,946
But I remember the one lady

1874
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,784
that we had the elderly woman

1875
01:01:33,784 --> 01:01:33,934
that I mean, she ran out of

1876
01:01:33,934 --> 01:01:35,934
money.

1877
01:01:36,736 --> 01:01:37,404
Yes.

1878
01:01:37,404 --> 01:01:39,940
Probably living off the social

1879
01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:40,708
security and she just asked can

1880
01:01:40,708 --> 01:01:43,677
I just, you know, wait till I

1881
01:01:43,677 --> 01:01:44,111
get my money here to finish

1882
01:01:44,111 --> 01:01:44,861
what she had?

1883
01:01:44,861 --> 01:01:45,195
I mean, what how would a

1884
01:01:45,195 --> 01:01:47,195
magistrate treat that?

1885
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,480
I don't know.

1886
01:01:51,435 --> 01:01:51,968
>> we do have a motion in a

1887
01:01:51,968 --> 01:01:52,185
second on the facts, right?

1888
01:01:52,185 --> 01:01:53,530
Yeah.

1889
01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:54,888
If didn't mean to do an

1890
01:01:54,888 --> 01:01:55,323
official vote and my

1891
01:01:55,323 --> 01:01:55,956
understanding is that the

1892
01:01:55,956 --> 01:01:58,956
motion is to request the

1893
01:01:59,900 --> 01:01:59,777
commission to consider keeping

1894
01:01:59,777 --> 01:02:00,210
the board as a code board and

1895
01:02:00,210 --> 01:02:02,610
not a special magistrate.

1896
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:03,381
>> correct?

1897
01:02:03,381 --> 01:02:03,598
>> correct.

1898
01:02:03,598 --> 01:02:04,482
Okay.

1899
01:02:04,482 --> 01:02:06,116
So okay with me doing a vote

1900
01:02:06,116 --> 01:02:07,840
now, are you with one more

1901
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,454
thing is that the we the motion

1902
01:02:10,454 --> 01:02:14,540
is to have rabbi capra take

1903
01:02:14,208 --> 01:02:14,408
that personally to the

1904
01:02:14,408 --> 01:02:14,558
commission.

1905
01:02:14,558 --> 01:02:15,192
Okay.

1906
01:02:15,192 --> 01:02:18,145
And then the city manager.

1907
01:02:18,145 --> 01:02:18,796
Yeah.

1908
01:02:18,796 --> 01:02:18,946
>> representing our the board

1909
01:02:18,946 --> 01:02:19,129
here.

1910
01:02:19,129 --> 01:02:21,129
Okay.

1911
01:02:22,733 --> 01:02:23,367
So you want me to include as

1912
01:02:23,367 --> 01:02:25,403
for morris carper to be

1913
01:02:25,403 --> 01:02:25,837
representative of the boards

1914
01:02:25,837 --> 01:02:26,170
voice sort of situation.

1915
01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:28,170
>> okay.

1916
01:02:29,256 --> 01:02:30,208
If I can add that onto that.

1917
01:02:30,208 --> 01:02:30,958
>> well yeah, that would be my

1918
01:02:30,958 --> 01:02:33,111
I guess my additions to my

1919
01:02:33,111 --> 01:02:33,978
amendment here.

1920
01:02:33,978 --> 01:02:37,332
>> that's what I'll do as an

1921
01:02:37,332 --> 01:02:37,565
official role call for the

1922
01:02:37,565 --> 01:02:37,766
record, please.

1923
01:02:37,766 --> 01:02:39,766
Please.

1924
01:02:41,152 --> 01:02:41,903
Chairperson gill do I or I

1925
01:02:41,903 --> 01:02:44,238
gallo I remember keppra a board

1926
01:02:44,238 --> 01:02:45,890
member ober all right.

1927
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:47,489
>> more member reps by

1928
01:02:47,926 --> 01:02:48,143
unanimous.

1929
01:02:48,143 --> 01:02:48,460
Okay.

1930
01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:50,412
Okay.

1931
01:02:50,412 --> 01:02:53,412
One more piece of business.

1932
01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:54,932
Go ahead, please.

1933
01:02:54,932 --> 01:02:57,332
>> she personally while you're

1934
01:02:57,686 --> 01:03:00,686
there, I understand you might

1935
01:03:01,573 --> 01:03:04,573
be getting close to retirement

1936
01:03:05,343 --> 01:03:08,329
and I just wanted to personally

1937
01:03:08,329 --> 01:03:08,863
say thank you for your 30 plus

1938
01:03:08,863 --> 01:03:09,470
years of service to the

1939
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:11,470
community.

1940
01:03:12,784 --> 01:03:13,318
Every time I see you or hear

1941
01:03:13,318 --> 01:03:16,318
you, I learn something new.

1942
01:03:16,471 --> 01:03:18,471
You're you're fair.

1943
01:03:20,275 --> 01:03:20,809
You are everything I would want

1944
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:20,942
a law enforcement officer to

1945
01:03:20,942 --> 01:03:22,942
be.

1946
01:03:24,295 --> 01:03:24,963
so I just want to say thank you

1947
01:03:24,963 --> 01:03:25,113
and thank you to your wonderful

1948
01:03:25,113 --> 01:03:27,113
staff.

1949
01:03:28,650 --> 01:03:28,867
There are some and you will be

1950
01:03:28,867 --> 01:03:30,867
truly missed.

1951
01:03:31,536 --> 01:03:31,853
Thank you, art.

1952
01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:33,853
Not yet.

1953
01:03:35,324 --> 01:03:36,191
It's not a rumor.

1954
01:03:36,191 --> 01:03:39,545
I will be retiring mid OCTOBER

1955
01:03:39,545 --> 01:03:39,879
after almost 31 years with the

1956
01:03:39,879 --> 01:03:40,780
winter springs police

1957
01:03:40,780 --> 01:03:42,780
department.

1958
01:03:43,382 --> 01:03:44,320
My wife and I are very excited

1959
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,100
about that and thank you very

1960
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:46,835
much for those very kind words

1961
01:03:46,835 --> 01:03:47,570
and I really appreciate it and

1962
01:03:47,570 --> 01:03:50,570
I appreciate all the support

1963
01:03:50,956 --> 01:03:51,506
not just to you but all the

1964
01:03:51,506 --> 01:03:54,506
members through the years that

1965
01:03:54,576 --> 01:03:54,894
are on this board that have

1966
01:03:54,894 --> 01:03:55,940
supported the police

1967
01:03:55,940 --> 01:03:55,778
department.

1968
01:03:55,778 --> 01:03:58,630
Can't do it without you guys.

1969
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:58,964
Well, mid-OCTOBER 3032 that

1970
01:03:58,964 --> 01:04:00,964
I'll be here.

1971
01:04:04,169 --> 01:04:04,369
>> yeah, you sound like my boss

1972
01:04:04,369 --> 01:04:06,369
.

1973
01:04:06,405 --> 01:04:08,405
Okay.

1974
01:04:10,676 --> 01:04:11,376
Thank you.

1975
01:04:11,376 --> 01:04:11,827
We don't need a roll call.

1976
01:04:11,827 --> 01:04:12,440
Your your awesome.

1977
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,440
Yeah.

1978
01:04:14,897 --> 01:04:15,231
So okay, so anything else?

1979
01:04:15,231 --> 01:04:17,231
I'm sorry.

1980
01:04:18,268 --> 01:04:18,484
Yeah.

1981
01:04:18,484 --> 01:04:20,484
Okay.

1982
01:04:21,771 --> 01:04:21,987
And I will say that to our new

1983
01:04:21,987 --> 01:04:23,987
city clerk.

1984
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:26,309
I we had to send the people

1985
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:28,309
home tonight.

1986
01:04:29,179 --> 01:04:32,548
So aaron, I had several dancers

1987
01:04:32,548 --> 01:04:33,416
and people come in and get

1988
01:04:33,416 --> 01:04:34,184
ready, so we'll try to see if

1989
01:04:34,184 --> 01:04:36,736
we can get them back next time.

1990
01:04:36,736 --> 01:04:39,136
But but welcome aboard.

1991
01:04:39,489 --> 01:04:39,806
And we're happy to be working

1992
01:04:39,806 --> 01:04:40,790
with you.

1993
01:04:40,790 --> 01:04:43,542
>> I do have one more thing to

1994
01:04:43,542 --> 01:04:44,510
go ahead, please.

1995
01:04:44,510 --> 01:04:47,630
For those of you who are not

1996
01:04:47,630 --> 01:04:50,733
aware a icon in the city has

1997
01:04:50,733 --> 01:04:50,900
passed and that would be susie

1998
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:51,834
coffman.

1999
01:04:51,834 --> 01:04:52,520
>> can I can I ask you to

2000
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,520
repeat that?

2001
01:04:55,238 --> 01:04:55,789
I didn't hear you and I said an

2002
01:04:55,789 --> 01:04:58,642
icon of the city past.

2003
01:04:58,642 --> 01:04:58,959
Okay.

2004
01:04:58,959 --> 01:04:59,175
Susie coffman.

2005
01:04:59,175 --> 01:05:01,175
Okay.

2006
01:05:05,882 --> 01:05:06,516
And she actually began the the

2007
01:05:06,516 --> 01:05:09,516
the senior center that building

2008
01:05:09,902 --> 01:05:10,370
was just last year named after

2009
01:05:10,370 --> 01:05:12,370
her.

2010
01:05:13,774 --> 01:05:16,726
There's a room in there.

2011
01:05:16,726 --> 01:05:16,876
Her husband was very active

2012
01:05:16,876 --> 01:05:18,876
also.

2013
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:21,465
And so we we really lost a

2014
01:05:21,465 --> 01:05:22,315
legend in a place.

2015
01:05:22,315 --> 01:05:24,768
And for those who don't know

2016
01:05:24,768 --> 01:05:26,768
dolly parton died.

2017
01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:32,622
Yeah she did and anything else

2018
01:05:33,527 --> 01:05:35,979
now that's okay note to end on

2019
01:05:35,979 --> 01:05:36,313
an all right this regular code

2020
01:05:36,313 --> 01:05:38,313
enforcement meeting board

2021
01:05:39,966 --> 01:05:40,301
meeting is now adjourned.

2022
01:05:40,301 --> 01:05:42,301
Thank you.

2023
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:48,740
Thanks all