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Good evening, ladies and

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gentlemen, and welcome to the

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city of winter spring city

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commission budget workshop of

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monday, JULY 14th, 2025.

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>> and kristen, would you call

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the roll, please?

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Mayor kevin mccann present

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deputy mayor kate resnick.

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Commissioner paul diaz

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commissioner victoria bruce

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present commissioner sarah

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baker present commissioner mark

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caruso here city manager kevin

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sweeney present city attorney

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anthony and gargi speer.

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>> if we could stand for a

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moment of silence to be

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followed by the pledge

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, I

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believe that the united states

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of america is my nation and I

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do with all liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> all right.

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I assume there are no agenda

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changes on this one topic for

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the workshop.

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And so then it was a compliment

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to MR. Sweet.

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Thank you for a well done well

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written, well explained.

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It was actually a little

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different layout from past

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years.

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I appreciate your input.

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Maybe holly, thanks for making

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it very clear.

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And although it's I'm not an

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accountant it's it was it makes

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sense and thanks for the layout

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and the detailed explanation.

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>> and with that, let's just

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read I'll turn it over to you.

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thank you, MR. Mayor.

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Commissioners, members of the

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public, thank you for your

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diligent work and engagement

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during this budget process.

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opportunity myself as well as

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the directors to meet with the

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mayor and all of the

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commissioners.

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The briefing prior to the

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budget workshop and where

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things stand.

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I do have a brief slide show

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overview which is a high level

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overview of what we're looking

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at for some revenue assumptions

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and expenditures breakdown for

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the f y 26 budget.

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with us this evening that chief

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track as well as clete sonya

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and brian dunning in to speak a

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little bit more and add some of

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their budget drivers and

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impacts for the f y 26 and kind

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of long term on the general

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fund side, the police budget

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being the largest budget and

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then the utilities being

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another major component.

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could just kind of go through

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after I complete my

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presentation, I'll ask them to

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give an overview of their

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budget request for f y 26 and

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then we can turn it back to

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you, MR. Mayor and the

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I'm happy to go into any

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questions that you MAY have in

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further detail.

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started with the presentation.

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>> patricia

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, thank you.

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>> so each of you should have a

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copy of this again, much of

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this is just broken down into a

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little bit easier to follow

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overview from the extensive

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budget book that everybody

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received as required under the

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charter JULY 1st of this year

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was distributed.

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digest it as well as the public

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as posted on the city website

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and through our one on one

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discussions.

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stage or phase, if you will, of

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the budget process.

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This budget as we talk about

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through will be some

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opportunities for some

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reiterations in particular a

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couple of areas within the

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capital that will have a couple

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of opportunities to make that

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before final adoption.

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>> we're hoping to have some

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finalized numbers on a couple

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of things.

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First off, I'd like to thank

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all of the directors for their

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vigorous efforts this fiscal

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>> it's set out obviously as

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the new city manager, a couple

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of new directors, department

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heads were able to take a fresh

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view of where the budget

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drivers were really go through

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the budget as a whole on a line

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by line zero based and really,

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you know, the message to go

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back in and really look and

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make sure that we're getting

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the most efficiency out of the

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budget and the numbers that

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they're putting forward.

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meetings reiterations where

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things have been changed,

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amended, come back and

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reconsidered.

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directors because this really

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is a team effort.

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countless hours and time to get

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us to here, a lot of

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preparation.

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I specifically want to call out

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the budget team in addition to

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myself led by holly queen, our

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finance director as well as

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michelle rozanski, our budget

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manager.

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And I was the benefits

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administrator as well as brian

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dunnigan, our director of

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administrative services and

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operations really led the the

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true budget team too without

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their support we wouldn't be

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here today and getting this

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budget completed.

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So we'll dive right in.

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The f y 26 budget, as I said,

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was developed through a

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rigorous, responsible process

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that ensures financial

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stability and reflects

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community priorities.

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>> no proposed increase in the

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city's operating millage rate

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remaining at 2.6 to mils.

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That's a a big achievement,

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something I'm proud of.

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team is proud of.

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This was not easy to get to.

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number coming in right?

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Start with the f y 26 budget

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couple of big increases and

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we're talking about fixed costs

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that we don't have much

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discretion on and we'll talk

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about some of those things.

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Well as related to insurance

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and a couple of other drivers

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and really looking at what do

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we have some ability, the

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discretion to be able to go.

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the operating budgets within

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within the general fund,

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there's really was a hard look

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at those expenses and line by

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line item and there's not a

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single increase in those

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operating expenses within

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within those budget.

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the difficulty of getting us to

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a place where we're able to

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recommend keeping the millage

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rate where it's at as as we all

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know the you know, expense

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issues are far exceeding

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revenue that's not unique to

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able to keep pace with that is

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has been a continuous and

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difficult task.

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to be able to do that for the f

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y 26 budget and and present

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this before you today through

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that with that in in respect to

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that the we you know we feel

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that the city remains committed

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to delivering high quality

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services and we feel that we

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can do that given the budget

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that's presented before you.

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growth or wish list items in

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budget that is real essential

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that we feel will provide and

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maintain and deliver the

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services that our residents

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growth in long term vision

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beyond that and some of that

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will take place as we look at

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future conversations around

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strategic plans and direction

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that the commission is looking

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to set in making some of those

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projects that are unnecessary

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sorry projects that are in the

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budget and I say unnecessary in

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the sense of our level service

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in maintaining services and

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some of that has been put on

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hold as we really as a as a

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group and identify particularly

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the commission's direction as

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we look at kind of our

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strategic and master plan

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moving forward.

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based upon an operating millage

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2.62 mils total revenues in

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transfers are projected to

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increase by 25.8%, including

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appropriations from a fund

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balance.

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A total increase of 13.9% is

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The timing of the opera

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project's solid waste rate

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increases tlb the increase

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enterprise srf state revolving

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fund loan proceeds of 5.4

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million as well as increase in

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water, sewer and stormwater

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rates is what's driving some of

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that increase that big

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increase, particularly the big

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increase in the enterprise

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of the call those out

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specifically as it MAY look

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like there's some substantial

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particularly as it relates to

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the water and sewer utility as

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we look at, you know, where

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where is that projection coming

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from or.

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Burstein the realize some of

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the rate changes in that

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revenue being realized but a

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big portion of that is that

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enterprise $5.4 million design

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loan that is made up and

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incorporated into that revenue.

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So on the expenditure side, as

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we progress with addressing our

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wastewater reclamation facility

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infrastructure, it's just shows

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I'm sorry, do I have that's not

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as you know there goes organic

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organization wide sources of

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funds.

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This really just shows a

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breakdown by percentage of

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where where that revenue is

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coming from.

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Charges for service at 31.9%,

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appropriation from funds, 18.9%

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ad valorem tax at 12.5%.

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Inter-government

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inter-government transfers in

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from the state 10.8%.

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Other taxes at 7.3%.

322
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Some loan proceeds at 6.8%

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franchise other revenue sources

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smaller buckets total maybe

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4.4%.

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Franchise fees 3.4% into fund

327
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transfers in 2.6% and licenses

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and permits 1.3.

329
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So you know, a couple of it's

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big reliance on ad valorem as

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well as some of the the state

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revenue shares that we get that

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make that up total proposed

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budget at 79.87 million across

335
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all funds this represents a

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12.8% increase in expenditures

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and a 13.9% increase in the

338
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total budget over the f y 25

339
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budget enterprise fund.

340
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That's again a significant

341
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growth up 53.3% in revenue and

342
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then was we going to the

343
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expenditures you'll see the

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31.6% expenditures again

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primarily due to the utility

346
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and infrastructure capital

347
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projects.

348
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>> the property tax revenue is

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projected to increase by

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538,889, which accounts for a

351
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6% with a 5.9% and 6.6% with

352
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5.9% rollback less than our f y

353
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25 that we're able to work

354
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with.

355
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So you can imagine, you know,

356
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the difficulty when you have

357
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limited revenue increases and

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just over half $1 million and

359
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realize the revenue when it

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comes to ad valorem increase

361
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can be a challenge with dealing

362
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with the other other increase

363
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in costs that we have as a

364
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community

365
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overall budget

366
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expenditure.

367
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>> I mentioned again behind the

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slide here represented there

369
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with the inclusion of the

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appropriations, the fund

371
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balance, the total increase of

372
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13.9%.

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>> this is the organization

374
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organization wide application

375
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of funds and the percentage of

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the total where that's going

377
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again capital outlay.

378
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This budget as you'll see,

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reflects a significant amount

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of investment into our capital

381
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and infrastructure personnel at

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24.7%, services at 12.2% repair

383
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and maintenance rtm 9.1

384
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utilities making up 7.5 or 7

385
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half percent.

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Other five and a half debt

387
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service at 4.7 into fund

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transfers out 2.6% and an

389
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appropriation to the fund a

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1.1.

391
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So it just gives you an idea I

392
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can see that paragraph where

393
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the big portion of where the

394
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application of these funds, the

395
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orange there with that capital

396
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outlay at 32.5% personnel

397
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related expenses about make up

398
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about 60.7% of the general fund

399
00:13:07,529 --> 00:13:10,783
budget as we get you can see is

400
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another highlight of

401
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expenditure highlights which

402
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includes 8% health insurance

403
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premium increase again like to

404
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you know really just shows the

405
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vigilance and effort that was

406
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made.

407
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There's no new positions that

408
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have been added within this fy

409
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26 budget.

410
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We've relooked at in some of

411
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the efforts and communication

412
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that I've made in the last

413
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couple of months with

414
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streamlining and realigning job

415
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duties, particularly at the

416
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director level with the

417
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consolidation of the director

418
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of public works into a combined

419
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public works and utilities

420
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department under the leadership

421
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of clete.

422
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I'm looking at bringing that

423
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and repositioning that position

424
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as a assistant director and

425
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some reallocation of additional

426
00:13:58,313 --> 00:13:59,810
shifts of responsibility is as

427
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it relates to that so that we

428
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can ensure that the duties

429
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themselves are realigned and

430
00:14:03,102 --> 00:14:05,502
we're getting achieving the

431
00:14:05,671 --> 00:14:06,400
most out of the staffing model

432
00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,400
that we have.

433
00:14:08,991 --> 00:14:09,725
I think this is a pretty good

434
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slide breakdown that shows what

435
00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,112
that looks like.

436
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As you can see there, the

437
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employees per 1000 residents

438
00:14:19,180 --> 00:14:20,530
and where that stands pretty

439
00:14:20,530 --> 00:14:23,653
flat line reduction of one fte

440
00:14:23,923 --> 00:14:26,923
overall from 2425 and where we

441
00:14:27,593 --> 00:14:29,593
stand in fy 26.

442
00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:31,280
>> so this is we're running

443
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lean.

444
00:14:32,310 --> 00:14:35,310
I've said that many times.

445
00:14:35,201 --> 00:14:35,852
If you look at comparable

446
00:14:35,852 --> 00:14:36,486
cities throughout the state and

447
00:14:36,486 --> 00:14:38,737
where we stand, our resident

448
00:14:38,737 --> 00:14:41,737
and our our infrastructure in

449
00:14:42,608 --> 00:14:43,159
demand, we're definitely run a

450
00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,159
lean tight ship and we're

451
00:14:46,212 --> 00:14:46,946
fortunate that we have the

452
00:14:46,946 --> 00:14:47,596
employees and staff that we

453
00:14:47,596 --> 00:14:47,747
have to be able to accomplish

454
00:14:47,747 --> 00:14:49,565
that.

455
00:14:49,565 --> 00:14:50,990
But many folks are wearing

456
00:14:50,990 --> 00:14:53,990
multiple hats that you don't

457
00:14:53,686 --> 00:14:54,336
see in a lot of communities and

458
00:14:54,336 --> 00:14:56,505
you know, we're doing the best

459
00:14:56,505 --> 00:14:57,257
with with what we have and I

460
00:14:57,257 --> 00:15:00,493
think we're doing a great job

461
00:15:00,493 --> 00:15:00,926
at that.

462
00:15:00,926 --> 00:15:02,926
Expenditure highlights each

463
00:15:04,698 --> 00:15:05,131
director, as I said at the

464
00:15:05,131 --> 00:15:07,531
beginning, was tasked with

465
00:15:08,417 --> 00:15:08,835
finding even small ways to

466
00:15:08,835 --> 00:15:09,369
reduce their operating

467
00:15:09,369 --> 00:15:11,769
expenditures such as moving

468
00:15:12,405 --> 00:15:12,839
appropriate expenditures to

469
00:15:12,839 --> 00:15:13,456
other more restrictive funding

470
00:15:13,456 --> 00:15:15,856
sources that were captured

471
00:15:16,843 --> 00:15:19,843
within their budget and looking

472
00:15:20,413 --> 00:15:21,470
at other funding allocation

473
00:15:21,470 --> 00:15:24,470
that should be more streamlined

474
00:15:24,417 --> 00:15:25,168
as it relates to some capital

475
00:15:25,168 --> 00:15:28,321
areas and taking those out of

476
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the actual budget themselves

477
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and addressing those as as

478
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capital expenditures.

479
00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:33,142
We'll talk a little bit more on

480
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capital.

481
00:15:36,863 --> 00:15:37,413
You can see there the again, I

482
00:15:37,413 --> 00:15:37,631
mentioned this earlier in the

483
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presentation.

484
00:15:40,202 --> 00:15:40,866
You know, I'm proud of what

485
00:15:40,866 --> 00:15:43,920
we've been able to build here

486
00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:44,471
and really shows that we have

487
00:15:44,471 --> 00:15:44,637
made a real strong concerted

488
00:15:44,637 --> 00:15:46,637
effort.

489
00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:48,376
You can see information

490
00:15:48,376 --> 00:15:50,776
services in general government

491
00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:54,100
on their on the operating

492
00:15:54,197 --> 00:15:56,966
budgets from 25 over to the f y

493
00:15:56,966 --> 00:15:59,966
26 and that change at-1.8% on

494
00:16:00,537 --> 00:16:02,937
the community development side

495
00:16:04,791 --> 00:16:04,991
-9% parks and recreation down

496
00:16:04,991 --> 00:16:06,991
2.6%.

497
00:16:07,270 --> 00:16:09,270
Police 5.2%.

498
00:16:10,196 --> 00:16:13,196
Finance just under one half 4%.

499
00:16:13,466 --> 00:16:15,866
Public works-15 and the

500
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,173
executive office minus six.

501
00:16:19,173 --> 00:16:21,573
>> so overall 4.7% reduction in

502
00:16:22,126 --> 00:16:22,993
our operating expenses for the

503
00:16:22,993 --> 00:16:27,640
f y 26, which again a lot of

504
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:27,614
effort really analyzed and

505
00:16:27,614 --> 00:16:30,670
going through every line item

506
00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:30,500
zero base and really reviewing

507
00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:32,900
the budget expenditures and

508
00:16:34,570 --> 00:16:35,238
making sure that there's no you

509
00:16:35,238 --> 00:16:38,291
know, no no funding in it.

510
00:16:38,291 --> 00:16:38,625
There or questionable or

511
00:16:38,625 --> 00:16:40,625
anything like that.

512
00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:42,745
I mean it's really there's

513
00:16:42,745 --> 00:16:43,597
budget is giving us really what

514
00:16:43,597 --> 00:16:46,666
we need to survive and just

515
00:16:46,666 --> 00:16:47,300
just wanted to stress that but

516
00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:50,300
that's probably rare that you

517
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:52,905
would see any community that's

518
00:16:52,905 --> 00:16:53,540
presenting operating expenses

519
00:16:53,540 --> 00:16:53,974
for every one of those

520
00:16:53,974 --> 00:16:56,374
functions at a reduction.

521
00:16:57,778 --> 00:16:58,328
>> and again, that was a lot of

522
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effort to get us here.

523
00:17:01,699 --> 00:17:02,249
We'll talk about when the chief

524
00:17:02,249 --> 00:17:02,466
gets into his presentation of

525
00:17:02,466 --> 00:17:04,466
the police.

526
00:17:04,735 --> 00:17:05,485
You know, police salaries and a

527
00:17:05,485 --> 00:17:09,850
couple of those as I said,

528
00:17:09,456 --> 00:17:09,889
discretion area expenses

529
00:17:09,889 --> 00:17:12,289
increases health insurance and

530
00:17:12,643 --> 00:17:13,493
a number of those other areas

531
00:17:13,493 --> 00:17:16,563
where we don't have a whole lot

532
00:17:16,563 --> 00:17:17,331
of discretion to be able to

533
00:17:17,331 --> 00:17:20,300
adjust to be able to find that

534
00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:20,533
in other areas as has been a

535
00:17:20,533 --> 00:17:22,533
difficult task.

536
00:17:24,688 --> 00:17:27,880
General fund breakdown by

537
00:17:27,541 --> 00:17:28,175
percentage of the percentage of

538
00:17:28,175 --> 00:17:30,575
utilization from ad valorem

539
00:17:34,265 --> 00:17:37,265
being the largest there at

540
00:17:40,154 --> 00:17:40,571
37.4% utility tax 15.4%

541
00:17:40,571 --> 00:17:42,571
intergovernmental 10.6% are

542
00:17:44,241 --> 00:17:44,958
some franchise fees we have

543
00:17:44,958 --> 00:17:46,958
coming in 10.2% communication

544
00:17:51,465 --> 00:17:52,990
service tax at 6.2%, revenue

545
00:17:52,990 --> 00:17:54,990
sharing at 6% and

546
00:17:54,752 --> 00:17:55,369
appropriations from funds of

547
00:17:55,369 --> 00:17:57,540
5.1 and interphone transfers

548
00:17:57,540 --> 00:18:00,224
and at 3.1 makes up to 100% of

549
00:18:00,224 --> 00:18:00,407
the source on the general fund

550
00:18:00,407 --> 00:18:01,192
.

551
00:18:01,192 --> 00:18:04,361
As you can see, the big

552
00:18:04,361 --> 00:18:05,312
reliance is on our our tax

553
00:18:05,312 --> 00:18:05,963
base, on our local tax, on the

554
00:18:05,963 --> 00:18:09,563
ad valorem tax, making up the

555
00:18:11,652 --> 00:18:12,603
bulk of that 37%.

556
00:18:12,603 --> 00:18:15,603
>> and another way of looking

557
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:18,390
at 25 versus 26 on the

558
00:18:18,843 --> 00:18:19,593
application from a revenue side

559
00:18:19,593 --> 00:18:22,847
of the house and from the

560
00:18:22,847 --> 00:18:23,397
source as well as the

561
00:18:23,397 --> 00:18:26,397
application of how that money

562
00:18:26,667 --> 00:18:27,318
is being expended.

563
00:18:27,318 --> 00:18:30,318
Personnel as I said earlier,

564
00:18:30,671 --> 00:18:31,105
driving not unique to

565
00:18:31,105 --> 00:18:31,239
governmental budgeting in any

566
00:18:31,239 --> 00:18:33,239
way.

567
00:18:34,750 --> 00:18:34,475
Typically I've seen, you know,

568
00:18:34,475 --> 00:18:36,475
communities, municipalities

569
00:18:37,845 --> 00:18:38,797
generally around anywhere from

570
00:18:38,797 --> 00:18:41,797
60 to 75% on average I'd say

571
00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:44,266
probably 70, 72% is personnel

572
00:18:45,236 --> 00:18:48,990
and staff when it comes to the

573
00:18:48,990 --> 00:18:51,990
overall budget as a whole.

574
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,460
Other operating at 9.2% repair

575
00:18:54,814 --> 00:18:57,814
and maintenance are around that

576
00:18:57,982 --> 00:18:58,833
6.5% capital outlay makes up 4%

577
00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:01,268
and this is in the general

578
00:19:01,268 --> 00:19:03,668
government general fund side

579
00:19:03,905 --> 00:19:05,905
I'm sorry supplies 3.5%.

580
00:19:08,175 --> 00:19:10,175
Utilities 3.7% fuel 1.1% and

581
00:19:11,145 --> 00:19:14,145
then grants and aids just 0.3

582
00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:15,750
just under half percent gives

583
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:18,750
the 26.6 million on the general

584
00:19:18,787 --> 00:19:19,637
fund side.

585
00:19:19,637 --> 00:19:22,370
>> general fund fiscal policy

586
00:19:22,891 --> 00:19:23,658
test.

587
00:19:23,658 --> 00:19:24,492
>> each year the general fund

588
00:19:24,492 --> 00:19:27,262
is tested to determine if the

589
00:19:27,262 --> 00:19:27,895
fund complies with the three

590
00:19:27,895 --> 00:19:30,295
internal fiscal policies or

591
00:19:31,465 --> 00:19:31,983
guidelines as follows one that

592
00:19:31,983 --> 00:19:33,983
it's sufficient recurring

593
00:19:34,552 --> 00:19:34,802
revenue exists to pay for all

594
00:19:34,802 --> 00:19:36,802
recurring costs.

595
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:39,691
That's avoiding the use of

596
00:19:39,691 --> 00:19:41,827
nonrecurring revenues and fund

597
00:19:41,827 --> 00:19:42,270
balances to fund recurring

598
00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:44,270
costs.

599
00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:46,764
Those are usually utilized for

600
00:19:46,764 --> 00:19:47,381
savings, if you will, as well

601
00:19:47,381 --> 00:19:49,781
as one time capital

602
00:19:50,651 --> 00:19:53,510
expenditures and are recurrent

603
00:19:53,922 --> 00:19:54,338
recurring costs in any fiscal

604
00:19:54,338 --> 00:19:56,338
year that's sufficient

605
00:19:57,893 --> 00:19:58,526
recurring non recurring revenue

606
00:19:58,526 --> 00:20:00,926
available to fund non-recurring

607
00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:02,130
costs and that the 25% fund

608
00:20:02,130 --> 00:20:04,413
balance policy is being

609
00:20:05,501 --> 00:20:08,253
maintained a fund balance equal

610
00:20:08,253 --> 00:20:08,687
to or exceeding 25% of

611
00:20:08,687 --> 00:20:11,870
personnel and operating costs

612
00:20:12,157 --> 00:20:12,312
of which we are more than

613
00:20:12,312 --> 00:20:12,925
doing.

614
00:20:12,925 --> 00:20:15,325
>> you'll see within your

615
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:16,280
budget for page 31 which lays

616
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,398
out where that stands and what

617
00:20:19,398 --> 00:20:22,967
I would refer to as the

618
00:20:22,967 --> 00:20:23,802
discretionary fund balance and

619
00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:26,802
having just under 2 million, I

620
00:20:26,972 --> 00:20:27,472
think that that alone

621
00:20:27,472 --> 00:20:29,472
illustrates the financial

622
00:20:31,244 --> 00:20:32,110
health of our community.

623
00:20:32,110 --> 00:20:35,480
It's a it illustrates that it's

624
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,800
where a community that is run

625
00:20:39,251 --> 00:20:40,102
fiscally, responsibly and not

626
00:20:40,102 --> 00:20:42,270
not in a position of a crisis

627
00:20:42,270 --> 00:20:42,470
by any means or anything like

628
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:43,400
that.

629
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,522
And you know, that's

630
00:20:43,522 --> 00:20:45,522
illustrated within the

631
00:20:46,575 --> 00:20:46,909
responsible fund balance

632
00:20:46,909 --> 00:20:47,142
following strictly through

633
00:20:47,142 --> 00:20:49,142
these policies.

634
00:20:50,912 --> 00:20:51,430
And in fact that 25% I think is

635
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:53,430
actually technically required

636
00:20:53,699 --> 00:20:56,268
of 20% or three months of

637
00:20:56,268 --> 00:20:56,471
operating 90 days, if you will

638
00:20:56,471 --> 00:20:57,200
.

639
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,752
And we're certainly meeting

640
00:20:57,752 --> 00:21:00,752
above that requirement as well

641
00:21:00,806 --> 00:21:03,806
as having some discretionary in

642
00:21:04,776 --> 00:21:06,928
there and that that comes after

643
00:21:06,928 --> 00:21:07,479
this f y 26 budget of what

644
00:21:07,479 --> 00:21:09,879
we're remaining with after

645
00:21:10,849 --> 00:21:11,267
after those fund balances are

646
00:21:11,267 --> 00:21:13,667
covered within this budget.

647
00:21:15,138 --> 00:21:17,538
So fiscally responsible and

648
00:21:20,643 --> 00:21:24,243
healthy at this stage before we

649
00:21:24,931 --> 00:21:25,430
turn it over to the chief, just

650
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:26,182
a couple of other things.

651
00:21:26,182 --> 00:21:29,340
The fund balance outlook, I

652
00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:32,340
said that is projected to

653
00:21:32,104 --> 00:21:35,104
decrease by 1.35 million due to

654
00:21:35,574 --> 00:21:36,910
those non-recurring capital

655
00:21:36,910 --> 00:21:38,491
enterprise fund equity is

656
00:21:38,944 --> 00:21:39,377
expected to decline due to the

657
00:21:39,377 --> 00:21:40,129
major utility investments of

658
00:21:40,129 --> 00:21:43,129
which we've been planning for

659
00:21:43,181 --> 00:21:46,181
and have had much discussion

660
00:21:47,136 --> 00:21:49,772
regarding and other decrease in

661
00:21:49,772 --> 00:21:50,657
fund balances.

662
00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,809
Primarily as I said, due to the

663
00:21:53,809 --> 00:21:54,443
one time capital investments

664
00:21:54,443 --> 00:21:54,977
that's planned for use of

665
00:21:54,977 --> 00:21:57,377
reserves for long term

666
00:21:57,813 --> 00:21:58,364
infrastructure improvements and

667
00:21:58,364 --> 00:21:58,597
remain in compliance with our

668
00:21:58,597 --> 00:22:00,597
reserve policy.

669
00:22:02,168 --> 00:22:05,137
>> so all all positive and good

670
00:22:05,137 --> 00:22:07,907
things it's a matter of if I

671
00:22:07,907 --> 00:22:10,660
could I'd like to ask the three

672
00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:11,411
directors to present their f y

673
00:22:11,411 --> 00:22:14,411
26 request and drivers and I

674
00:22:14,698 --> 00:22:15,531
think it's a good opportunity.

675
00:22:15,531 --> 00:22:19,200
I don't think in the most

676
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,869
recent we've you know in prior

677
00:22:19,869 --> 00:22:22,221
done too much in this I really

678
00:22:22,221 --> 00:22:23,720
wanted to focus on those three.

679
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,507
The police department is the

680
00:22:25,507 --> 00:22:28,507
largest general fund budget and

681
00:22:29,312 --> 00:22:29,963
then as I said with the

682
00:22:29,963 --> 00:22:30,212
utilities and public works is a

683
00:22:30,212 --> 00:22:32,212
big conversation.

684
00:22:33,149 --> 00:22:33,483
Brian is the director of

685
00:22:33,483 --> 00:22:35,483
administrative services and

686
00:22:36,637 --> 00:22:37,170
operations, has information

687
00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:37,353
services which includes human

688
00:22:37,353 --> 00:22:39,353
resources.

689
00:22:41,457 --> 00:22:41,907
I.T risk management as well as

690
00:22:41,907 --> 00:22:44,307
our parks and recreation

691
00:22:47,797 --> 00:22:48,231
oversight as well as our our

692
00:22:48,231 --> 00:22:48,447
tree landscaping our functions

693
00:22:48,447 --> 00:22:50,447
as well.

694
00:22:52,552 --> 00:22:53,269
So chief turned over to you if

695
00:22:53,269 --> 00:22:56,239
you want to present yourself

696
00:22:56,239 --> 00:22:56,772
thank you.

697
00:22:56,772 --> 00:22:57,207
>> thank you MR..

698
00:22:57,207 --> 00:22:57,940
I appreciate that.

699
00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:00,340
Well good afternoon honorable

700
00:23:00,511 --> 00:23:00,943
mayor, commissioners, staff and

701
00:23:00,943 --> 00:23:01,694
members of the public.

702
00:23:01,694 --> 00:23:04,447
Thank you for the opportunity

703
00:23:04,447 --> 00:23:07,447
to present proposed fiscal year

704
00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:08,668
2026 police department budget.

705
00:23:08,668 --> 00:23:09,102
I'm proud to represent our

706
00:23:09,102 --> 00:23:11,502
department's dedicated men and

707
00:23:12,172 --> 00:23:12,505
women who work daily to keep

708
00:23:12,505 --> 00:23:14,505
our communities safe.

709
00:23:15,258 --> 00:23:15,876
>> our fiscal year 26 budget

710
00:23:15,876 --> 00:23:18,276
supports a focused strategy

711
00:23:18,327 --> 00:23:18,779
built around four priorities.

712
00:23:18,779 --> 00:23:20,779
Those priorities are

713
00:23:21,932 --> 00:23:22,465
maintaining an adequate level

714
00:23:22,465 --> 00:23:22,983
of public safety services

715
00:23:22,983 --> 00:23:24,983
recruiting and retaining

716
00:23:26,136 --> 00:23:26,753
qualified officers, investing

717
00:23:26,753 --> 00:23:29,153
in modern equipment and

718
00:23:29,306 --> 00:23:29,939
technology and improving

719
00:23:29,939 --> 00:23:32,339
overall efficiency and fiscal

720
00:23:33,176 --> 00:23:33,944
accountability.

721
00:23:33,944 --> 00:23:34,611
Before we get into that though,

722
00:23:34,611 --> 00:23:37,363
I'd like to outline where we

723
00:23:37,363 --> 00:23:40,116
have been and where we are now.

724
00:23:40,116 --> 00:23:40,650
>> agencies throughout central

725
00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:40,950
florida have faced an

726
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:41,150
unprecedented staffing

727
00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:43,150
challenges.

728
00:23:44,137 --> 00:23:44,570
>> the recruitment pipelines

729
00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:46,970
are shrinking and competition

730
00:23:48,225 --> 00:23:48,424
for certified officers is

731
00:23:48,424 --> 00:23:48,992
increasing.

732
00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:51,992
All agencies are fighting for

733
00:23:52,362 --> 00:23:54,230
the same top candidates.

734
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:54,865
As you all are aware, in late

735
00:23:54,865 --> 00:23:55,381
2024 we increased our starting

736
00:23:55,381 --> 00:23:57,381
salary adjusted employee

737
00:23:59,553 --> 00:23:59,852
compression and offered

738
00:23:59,852 --> 00:24:00,636
educational incentives.

739
00:24:00,636 --> 00:24:03,606
This was necessary as we face

740
00:24:03,606 --> 00:24:06,606
an unrest that in 30% vacancy

741
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:07,594
rate and the police department

742
00:24:07,594 --> 00:24:07,961
officers were leaving for

743
00:24:07,961 --> 00:24:09,961
neighboring jurisdictions just

744
00:24:11,414 --> 00:24:12,640
for a few thousand dollars more

745
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,484
in salary and a benefit package

746
00:24:14,484 --> 00:24:15,252
that exceeded ours.

747
00:24:15,252 --> 00:24:17,821
I'm glad to report that today

748
00:24:17,821 --> 00:24:18,589
we see a vacancy of only about

749
00:24:18,589 --> 00:24:21,558
5% and hopefully by the end of

750
00:24:21,558 --> 00:24:22,209
this week we could close out to

751
00:24:22,209 --> 00:24:24,609
0% with some offer letters

752
00:24:25,462 --> 00:24:25,879
within central florida

753
00:24:25,879 --> 00:24:27,879
departments have raised

754
00:24:28,832 --> 00:24:29,660
starting salaries to the 60 to

755
00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:31,660
$68,000 range.

756
00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:32,853
Many of those offering

757
00:24:32,853 --> 00:24:35,253
unimaginable sign on bonuses.

758
00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:36,557
Some of these bonuses range

759
00:24:36,557 --> 00:24:38,393
from 5000 to 30,000 just to get

760
00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:39,242
hired.

761
00:24:39,242 --> 00:24:42,195
On top of those incentives are

762
00:24:42,195 --> 00:24:42,613
for education night shift

763
00:24:42,613 --> 00:24:42,846
differential and even

764
00:24:42,846 --> 00:24:44,846
relocation pay.

765
00:24:45,699 --> 00:24:46,249
Unfortunately, the only thing

766
00:24:46,249 --> 00:24:46,983
that this does is incentivizes

767
00:24:46,983 --> 00:24:49,836
qualified officers to leave an

768
00:24:49,836 --> 00:24:50,671
agency for financial gain.

769
00:24:50,671 --> 00:24:53,671
Regretfully, we have seen this

770
00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:54,708
affect our agency as well.

771
00:24:54,708 --> 00:24:57,108
>> the passion for law

772
00:24:57,562 --> 00:24:57,785
enforcement has changed over

773
00:24:57,785 --> 00:24:58,546
the years.

774
00:24:58,546 --> 00:25:01,498
One could argue a reason or

775
00:25:01,498 --> 00:25:01,932
just simply watch the news over

776
00:25:01,932 --> 00:25:02,582
the last ten years.

777
00:25:02,582 --> 00:25:04,734
Finding officers who want to

778
00:25:04,734 --> 00:25:05,510
make a career is becoming

779
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:07,510
harder and harder.

780
00:25:08,539 --> 00:25:09,273
Staying competitive has focused

781
00:25:09,273 --> 00:25:12,543
us to think outside the box.

782
00:25:12,543 --> 00:25:13,177
The proposed budget includes

783
00:25:13,177 --> 00:25:13,460
funding that will maintain our

784
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:14,280
competitiveness while

785
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,428
continuing to provide the

786
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,114
services that are expected from

787
00:25:17,114 --> 00:25:19,114
our community.

788
00:25:20,484 --> 00:25:21,335
>> as residents sees increases

789
00:25:21,335 --> 00:25:21,668
in our day to day cost, we

790
00:25:21,668 --> 00:25:23,668
experience those same

791
00:25:24,504 --> 00:25:25,400
significant cost increases

792
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,440
across our critical equipment

793
00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:29,660
lines and operating expenses.

794
00:25:29,660 --> 00:25:32,660
For instance, body armor that

795
00:25:33,714 --> 00:25:33,881
was purchased in 2020 cost

796
00:25:33,881 --> 00:25:35,881
$1,158.

797
00:25:36,883 --> 00:25:39,283
Today that armor costs $1,997,

798
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,170
which is a 72% increase in

799
00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:42,170
2020.

800
00:25:44,125 --> 00:25:44,342
uniforms to outfit a new higher

801
00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:46,342
cost $335.

802
00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:47,244
That same uniform now cost

803
00:25:47,244 --> 00:25:48,930
$570.

804
00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:49,880
That's a 70% increase.

805
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,480
And something as simple as copy

806
00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:58,139
paper $43 a box is now $66.

807
00:25:58,139 --> 00:25:58,472
That's a 53% increase in a

808
00:25:58,472 --> 00:26:00,472
simple office supply.

809
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,910
I say this because we all feel

810
00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:04,946
the same pressures as everyone

811
00:26:04,946 --> 00:26:05,496
in our community.

812
00:26:05,496 --> 00:26:06,330
>> intelligence led policing

813
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:09,316
has become the wave of the

814
00:26:09,316 --> 00:26:09,967
future and has proven to be a

815
00:26:09,967 --> 00:26:12,803
game changer in combating and

816
00:26:12,803 --> 00:26:13,237
solving crimes.

817
00:26:13,237 --> 00:26:15,237
Likewise, technology based

818
00:26:16,808 --> 00:26:17,340
equipment, patrol vehicles and

819
00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:17,559
safety gear have risen

820
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:19,559
significantly.

821
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:21,562
Despite these increases, we

822
00:26:21,562 --> 00:26:21,996
have worked diligently to find

823
00:26:21,996 --> 00:26:24,396
efficiencies to provide you

824
00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:25,583
with a decrease in our

825
00:26:25,583 --> 00:26:27,983
operating budget while still

826
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:28,703
maintaining service levels.

827
00:26:28,703 --> 00:26:29,236
For the fiscal year 26 budget,

828
00:26:29,236 --> 00:26:31,789
the operating costs for the

829
00:26:31,789 --> 00:26:32,540
police department have been

830
00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:32,757
reduced by a little over 5%

831
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:34,757
last year.

832
00:26:36,344 --> 00:26:36,778
We're pleased to see the

833
00:26:36,778 --> 00:26:37,327
effects of our policing

834
00:26:37,327 --> 00:26:39,963
initiatives and their impact on

835
00:26:39,963 --> 00:26:41,963
our crime rates.

836
00:26:41,999 --> 00:26:42,750
Crime has dropped overall by

837
00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:45,102
15% from the previous year and

838
00:26:45,102 --> 00:26:45,653
additionally we saw a 9%

839
00:26:45,653 --> 00:26:46,270
reduction in violent crimes all

840
00:26:46,270 --> 00:26:48,670
while operating at critical

841
00:26:49,124 --> 00:26:49,557
staffing levels.

842
00:26:49,557 --> 00:26:51,557
Nevertheless, this success

843
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:53,845
comes with a downside.

844
00:26:53,845 --> 00:26:54,279
For years we've been forced to

845
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,679
do more with less.

846
00:26:57,248 --> 00:26:57,799
This approach takes a toll on

847
00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:58,232
the workforce and the staffing

848
00:26:58,232 --> 00:27:00,632
numbers have proved this.

849
00:27:01,603 --> 00:27:02,360
We operate with the lowest

850
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,388
officer programs per resident

851
00:27:04,388 --> 00:27:05,400
rate in seminole county and I'm

852
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,790
pleased to say now we see

853
00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:08,209
staffing numbers shift in our

854
00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:08,977
favor.

855
00:27:08,977 --> 00:27:09,711
I will always strive to provide

856
00:27:09,711 --> 00:27:11,129
the best policing within this

857
00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:11,779
community.

858
00:27:11,779 --> 00:27:12,348
As a resident myself, I

859
00:27:12,348 --> 00:27:15,348
invested in seeing the success

860
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,134
of this agency and the city

861
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:19,134
data shows clearly that the

862
00:27:19,488 --> 00:27:19,938
properly staffing equipped

863
00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:20,238
departments lead to tangible,

864
00:27:20,238 --> 00:27:22,238
measurable, measurable

865
00:27:23,407 --> 00:27:24,760
improvements in public safety.

866
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:24,809
These impact the quality of

867
00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,245
life and harmony of our

868
00:27:27,245 --> 00:27:27,896
community.

869
00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:28,346
This is what makes winter

870
00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:30,746
springs such an attractive

871
00:27:31,182 --> 00:27:31,817
place to live.

872
00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:32,450
The police department's budget

873
00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:34,385
is responsible and forward

874
00:27:34,385 --> 00:27:35,360
thinking.

875
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:35,236
It balances rising cost with

876
00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:37,236
efficiency.

877
00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:38,740
It strengthens officer

878
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:39,374
recruitment and retention.

879
00:27:39,374 --> 00:27:41,774
And most importantly, it

880
00:27:42,845 --> 00:27:43,278
sustains our goal of providing

881
00:27:43,278 --> 00:27:45,678
top notch service while

882
00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:46,448
reducing the fare and presence

883
00:27:46,448 --> 00:27:48,448
of crime.

884
00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:52,369
>> the total proposed f y 26

885
00:27:52,369 --> 00:27:52,587
budget reflects a 4.3% increase

886
00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:53,321
over 25.

887
00:27:53,321 --> 00:27:55,721
This includes payroll and

888
00:27:56,591 --> 00:27:56,925
benefits, operating expenses

889
00:27:56,925 --> 00:27:58,925
and capital improvements.

890
00:27:59,577 --> 00:28:00,120
As mentioned, we reduced our

891
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,412
operating costs by scrutinizing

892
00:28:03,164 --> 00:28:03,698
every line item conducting

893
00:28:03,698 --> 00:28:06,980
internal checks and balances,

894
00:28:07,251 --> 00:28:08,119
negotiating contracts and using

895
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,304
grant funds to the best of our

896
00:28:08,304 --> 00:28:10,304
abilities.

897
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:11,923
This budget is operationally

898
00:28:11,923 --> 00:28:14,375
sound to complete our mission

899
00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:14,592
but lacks any more flexibility

900
00:28:14,592 --> 00:28:15,244
.

901
00:28:15,244 --> 00:28:15,877
Key budget areas that were

902
00:28:15,877 --> 00:28:18,277
discussed earlier our personnel

903
00:28:21,566 --> 00:28:22,000
benefits which is $8.7 million

904
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
operating costs $1.6 million

905
00:28:25,437 --> 00:28:25,653
and capital expenses of

906
00:28:25,653 --> 00:28:26,388
$640,000.

907
00:28:26,388 --> 00:28:28,788
The total police department

908
00:28:29,858 --> 00:28:31,858
budget of $10.9 million.

909
00:28:33,728 --> 00:28:34,163
>> every dollar in this

910
00:28:34,163 --> 00:28:34,597
proposal is aligned with

911
00:28:34,597 --> 00:28:36,997
maintaining services the same

912
00:28:37,232 --> 00:28:37,999
community policing standards

913
00:28:37,999 --> 00:28:38,534
that we've worked hard over the

914
00:28:38,534 --> 00:28:38,683
last several decades to build

915
00:28:38,683 --> 00:28:40,683
trust.

916
00:28:41,186 --> 00:28:41,821
Transparency and partnerships

917
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:42,353
with our residents, business

918
00:28:42,353 --> 00:28:44,753
partners and faith based

919
00:28:45,607 --> 00:28:46,258
community leaders.

920
00:28:46,258 --> 00:28:46,792
As your police chief, I'm

921
00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:49,192
committed to leading this

922
00:28:49,845 --> 00:28:50,279
agency with honesty, integrity

923
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,679
and transparency in every

924
00:28:52,947 --> 00:28:53,499
decision we make from how we

925
00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:53,932
spend taxpayer dollars to how

926
00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:56,332
we serve our residents.

927
00:28:56,902 --> 00:28:59,655
We will reflect on our core

928
00:28:59,655 --> 00:28:59,971
values excellence, integrity,

929
00:28:59,971 --> 00:29:00,922
innovation and respect.

930
00:29:00,922 --> 00:29:04,109
I will fight for our officers

931
00:29:04,109 --> 00:29:04,643
for their safety, for their

932
00:29:04,643 --> 00:29:04,877
well-being and the respect that

933
00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:06,877
they've earned.

934
00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:08,480
>> but I also hold us to the

935
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:08,915
highest standards because

936
00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:09,114
that's what the public

937
00:29:09,114 --> 00:29:11,114
deserves.

938
00:29:11,984 --> 00:29:12,534
We are building a department

939
00:29:12,534 --> 00:29:15,503
that just doesn't respond to

940
00:29:15,503 --> 00:29:15,704
crime but also helps prevent it

941
00:29:15,704 --> 00:29:16,372
.

942
00:29:16,372 --> 00:29:17,105
A department that earns trust

943
00:29:17,105 --> 00:29:19,570
not just compliance and a

944
00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:19,607
department that serves as a

945
00:29:19,607 --> 00:29:22,607
cornerstone of what makes one

946
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:23,295
springs safe, desirable,

947
00:29:23,295 --> 00:29:25,695
complete and free from

948
00:29:26,649 --> 00:29:27,201
tomorrow's fears.

949
00:29:27,201 --> 00:29:29,601
With that, I respectfully

950
00:29:30,652 --> 00:29:31,186
request your support adopting

951
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:32,520
the fiscal year 26 proposed

952
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,920
police department's budgets and

953
00:29:36,792 --> 00:29:37,643
I welcome any questions?

954
00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:40,643
>> you want to just roll

955
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:41,329
through and then we'll come

956
00:29:41,329 --> 00:29:41,547
back for questions.

957
00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:43,547
Okay.

958
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Who's next to

959
00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:52,258
me?

960
00:29:52,258 --> 00:29:52,474
>> good afternoon,

961
00:29:52,474 --> 00:29:53,208
commissioners.

962
00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:56,208
It was good getting an

963
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:56,846
opportunity to meet each one of

964
00:29:56,846 --> 00:29:57,163
you individually over the last

965
00:29:57,163 --> 00:29:59,163
week or so.

966
00:30:00,349 --> 00:30:00,967
And and been able to put a fine

967
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:01,500
point on what we're trying to

968
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,900
accomplish within the public

969
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:04,904
works and utilities department.

970
00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:07,560
I will tell you that in all my

971
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:07,489
years of experience I've worked

972
00:30:07,489 --> 00:30:07,906
on everything from special

973
00:30:07,906 --> 00:30:09,906
district government to

974
00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:11,827
municipalities and counties.

975
00:30:11,827 --> 00:30:14,981
I think winter springs is one

976
00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:15,415
of the most efficient and

977
00:30:15,415 --> 00:30:17,815
dedicated group of individuals

978
00:30:18,768 --> 00:30:19,301
working within the city that

979
00:30:19,301 --> 00:30:19,818
creates opportunities to save

980
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:21,818
money while providing

981
00:30:23,872 --> 00:30:24,640
exceptional service.

982
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,710
The only limitation is is their

983
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:28,244
ability to do so with

984
00:30:28,244 --> 00:30:28,794
additional funding which we're

985
00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:28,944
asking for you to provide

986
00:30:28,944 --> 00:30:30,944
today.

987
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:33,480
Although it is a tight lean

988
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,667
budget, it does meet all of our

989
00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:36,667
operational requirements for

990
00:30:38,939 --> 00:30:39,805
the forecasted fiscal year.

991
00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:40,356
As I mentioned, we did spend a

992
00:30:40,356 --> 00:30:40,523
lot of time developing this

993
00:30:40,523 --> 00:30:42,523
budget.

994
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:46,913
I picked staff springs a lot

995
00:30:46,913 --> 00:30:47,663
not only because of my newness

996
00:30:47,663 --> 00:30:51,133
here to the community but also

997
00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:51,333
a desire, strong desire and

998
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:52,117
philosophy.

999
00:30:52,117 --> 00:30:52,868
I have to make sure that we're

1000
00:30:52,868 --> 00:30:54,304
not spending any more than we

1001
00:30:54,304 --> 00:30:54,637
need to to provide the best

1002
00:30:54,637 --> 00:30:56,637
service delivery possible.

1003
00:30:58,507 --> 00:30:59,141
With that, the budget overall

1004
00:30:59,141 --> 00:31:02,141
for public works and utilities

1005
00:31:02,311 --> 00:31:05,311
is very lean and efficient.

1006
00:31:06,298 --> 00:31:06,633
So let me just go over a few

1007
00:31:06,633 --> 00:31:08,633
top level items.

1008
00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:09,736
The more important items the

1009
00:31:09,736 --> 00:31:10,470
budget is pretty thick.

1010
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:13,339
It takes up a significant

1011
00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:13,873
portion of the budget book

1012
00:31:13,873 --> 00:31:16,273
because we're dealing with

1013
00:31:17,326 --> 00:31:19,726
multiple funds and different

1014
00:31:21,182 --> 00:31:21,948
expenditure accounts.

1015
00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:25,101
For starters, I'm going to go

1016
00:31:25,101 --> 00:31:25,952
over overall staffing changes

1017
00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:29,552
with the elimination is as city

1018
00:31:30,524 --> 00:31:31,740
manager sweetman charged with

1019
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:33,900
the elimination of the public

1020
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:33,644
works director overseeing the

1021
00:31:33,644 --> 00:31:33,826
duties of public works and

1022
00:31:33,826 --> 00:31:34,727
utilities.

1023
00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:37,581
And as part of that, in order

1024
00:31:37,581 --> 00:31:41,181
to be more efficient, the city

1025
00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:42,850
manager and I had developed a

1026
00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:44,485
job description for an

1027
00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:45,889
assistant director of public

1028
00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:47,889
works and utilities.

1029
00:31:49,158 --> 00:31:49,492
That position will take on full

1030
00:31:49,492 --> 00:31:50,900
responsibility for the

1031
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:52,900
stormwater management program

1032
00:31:52,779 --> 00:31:53,313
plus play a key role as the

1033
00:31:53,313 --> 00:31:55,313
capital improvement program

1034
00:31:56,366 --> 00:31:57,000
manager overall capital

1035
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
projects with the exception of

1036
00:32:00,254 --> 00:32:00,787
the wastewater recycling

1037
00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:01,421
facilities, I will still

1038
00:32:01,421 --> 00:32:04,421
oversee that directly to make

1039
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:07,160
sure we're moving forward.

1040
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560
>> we've also added another

1041
00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:10,964
position for fiscal year 26.

1042
00:32:10,964 --> 00:32:11,230
It's an environmental

1043
00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:13,230
compliance officer.

1044
00:32:14,868 --> 00:32:15,302
We would be looking at that

1045
00:32:15,302 --> 00:32:15,585
position as an associate

1046
00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:17,585
engineering position.

1047
00:32:18,788 --> 00:32:19,639
Somebody that's right around

1048
00:32:19,639 --> 00:32:22,809
the city to be newly pd

1049
00:32:22,809 --> 00:32:23,159
individual but they would have

1050
00:32:23,159 --> 00:32:25,159
oversight and responsibility

1051
00:32:26,813 --> 00:32:27,247
ownership if you will, over all

1052
00:32:27,247 --> 00:32:29,647
of our regulatory requirements

1053
00:32:30,417 --> 00:32:31,520
whether it be water, sewer,

1054
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,452
reclaim water stormwater and

1055
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:34,337
paving.

1056
00:32:34,337 --> 00:32:37,690
There'll be a point of contact

1057
00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:38,242
with key representatives within

1058
00:32:38,242 --> 00:32:41,242
all of the regulatory agencies

1059
00:32:42,429 --> 00:32:45,582
such as F.D.A., f d p st johns

1060
00:32:45,582 --> 00:32:46,217
river and others.

1061
00:32:46,217 --> 00:32:48,617
They'll be maintaining those

1062
00:32:49,586 --> 00:32:49,903
relationships currently we have

1063
00:32:49,903 --> 00:32:50,437
consultants provided or

1064
00:32:50,437 --> 00:32:52,437
providing augmented staffing

1065
00:32:53,673 --> 00:32:54,341
services.

1066
00:32:54,341 --> 00:32:57,341
We fully expect those services

1067
00:32:57,794 --> 00:32:58,329
to be eliminated and this

1068
00:32:58,329 --> 00:33:01,329
individual come in and take

1069
00:33:01,698 --> 00:33:02,449
over those responsibilities and

1070
00:33:02,449 --> 00:33:02,682
I would might add that would be

1071
00:33:02,682 --> 00:33:04,682
full time.

1072
00:33:04,718 --> 00:33:05,369
Currently our consultants can

1073
00:33:05,369 --> 00:33:06,220
only to the best of their

1074
00:33:06,220 --> 00:33:09,890
ability provide kind of a part

1075
00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:12,659
time overview, if you will, on

1076
00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:13,610
specific things that come out.

1077
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:16,610
>> we are also reorganizing the

1078
00:33:16,881 --> 00:33:18,881
utilities division department

1079
00:33:19,734 --> 00:33:20,266
into a to create a new division

1080
00:33:20,266 --> 00:33:20,450
for substation maintenance and

1081
00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:22,450
operation.

1082
00:33:23,954 --> 00:33:24,304
We're going to create a lift

1083
00:33:24,304 --> 00:33:24,921
station maintenance operation

1084
00:33:24,921 --> 00:33:27,875
division that will be staffed

1085
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:30,275
by dedicated employees that

1086
00:33:30,744 --> 00:33:31,295
will be responsible for the 57

1087
00:33:31,295 --> 00:33:31,812
live stations that we currently

1088
00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:33,864
have in operation throughout

1089
00:33:33,864 --> 00:33:34,515
the city.

1090
00:33:34,515 --> 00:33:37,515
Our current contractor, our own

1091
00:33:37,968 --> 00:33:38,502
contractor veolia provides of

1092
00:33:38,502 --> 00:33:39,354
services as part of their

1093
00:33:39,354 --> 00:33:42,954
contract and they will be of

1094
00:33:44,842 --> 00:33:45,377
course falling off in SEPTEMBER

1095
00:33:45,377 --> 00:33:46,260
30th with our new contractor

1096
00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:49,260
owner and contractor would add

1097
00:33:49,790 --> 00:33:49,269
in current coming on OCTOBER

1098
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:50,310
1st.

1099
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:53,310
That new contract will not

1100
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:53,651
include live station management

1101
00:33:53,651 --> 00:33:56,651
services that will be brought

1102
00:33:56,803 --> 00:33:57,538
in-house with our staff.

1103
00:33:57,538 --> 00:33:59,938
So we've recreated that

1104
00:33:59,974 --> 00:34:01,974
division utilizing existing

1105
00:34:03,643 --> 00:34:04,395
staff from two of our utility

1106
00:34:04,395 --> 00:34:07,682
crews to create a new division.

1107
00:34:07,682 --> 00:34:08,315
Plus hiring an individual to be

1108
00:34:08,315 --> 00:34:10,968
able to oversee the management

1109
00:34:10,968 --> 00:34:12,968
of those individuals.

1110
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,672
I would note that woodard in

1111
00:34:15,672 --> 00:34:15,924
current contract is actively

1112
00:34:15,924 --> 00:34:17,924
being developed.

1113
00:34:19,276 --> 00:34:20,161
We're taking a lot of time.

1114
00:34:20,161 --> 00:34:20,778
We want to make sure we get all

1115
00:34:20,778 --> 00:34:23,113
the I's dotted and t's crossed

1116
00:34:23,113 --> 00:34:23,664
on that scope of services.

1117
00:34:23,664 --> 00:34:26,640
Our current agreement with

1118
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:26,951
veolia is woefully inadequate.

1119
00:34:26,951 --> 00:34:30,321
It is very ambiguous in some

1120
00:34:30,321 --> 00:34:33,921
detail in what it what our

1121
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:34,625
expectations should be and what

1122
00:34:34,625 --> 00:34:35,509
they should be moving forward.

1123
00:34:35,509 --> 00:34:38,162
So we're taking a lot of time

1124
00:34:38,162 --> 00:34:38,713
and effort with staff as well

1125
00:34:38,713 --> 00:34:41,713
as our consultants at carollo

1126
00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:48,370
to develop a very tight

1127
00:37:43,265 --> 00:37:44,117
completed to date.

1128
00:37:44,117 --> 00:37:46,517
>> we fully anticipate being

1129
00:37:46,785 --> 00:37:50,139
able to provide at the end of

1130
00:37:50,139 --> 00:37:50,789
SEPTEMBER a stormwater master

1131
00:37:50,789 --> 00:37:53,342
plan draft and we'll be

1132
00:37:53,342 --> 00:37:56,942
providing to you a workshop at

1133
00:37:57,290 --> 00:37:57,696
that time to go over that.

1134
00:37:57,696 --> 00:38:00,696
We'll also be introducing what

1135
00:38:01,250 --> 00:38:01,917
some anticipated rates will be

1136
00:38:01,917 --> 00:38:02,652
that you can expect to see

1137
00:38:02,652 --> 00:38:04,721
depending on your adoption of

1138
00:38:04,721 --> 00:38:08,173
that plan at a at the first

1139
00:38:08,173 --> 00:38:08,924
meeting in OCTOBER.

1140
00:38:08,924 --> 00:38:09,558
The rate study will be

1141
00:38:09,558 --> 00:38:11,958
presented to reflect whatever

1142
00:38:12,128 --> 00:38:12,428
the improvement recommendations

1143
00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:14,428
and the operational

1144
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:15,832
requirements of those are.

1145
00:38:15,832 --> 00:38:18,232
During the storm water

1146
00:38:18,868 --> 00:38:19,702
infrastructure program

1147
00:38:19,702 --> 00:38:22,702
presentation at the workshop at

1148
00:38:22,755 --> 00:38:26,209
the end of SEPTEMBER 1st part

1149
00:38:26,209 --> 00:38:26,759
of OCTOBER.

1150
00:38:26,759 --> 00:38:27,176
so since that final

1151
00:38:27,176 --> 00:38:29,176
infrastructure needs assessment

1152
00:38:29,528 --> 00:38:29,780
will not be until late this

1153
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:31,780
fiscal year.

1154
00:38:33,233 --> 00:38:33,766
Staff will be working with the

1155
00:38:33,766 --> 00:38:36,766
city manager and the finance

1156
00:38:37,336 --> 00:38:37,669
director to present a budget

1157
00:38:37,669 --> 00:38:38,870
amendment reflecting the

1158
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:40,870
infrastructure and operational

1159
00:38:41,657 --> 00:38:42,208
costs in line with the adopted

1160
00:38:42,208 --> 00:38:44,877
rates sometime mid fiscal year.

1161
00:38:44,877 --> 00:38:45,427
We really want to have a handle

1162
00:38:45,427 --> 00:38:46,162
on that until we actually

1163
00:38:46,162 --> 00:38:48,631
understand what the rates will

1164
00:38:48,631 --> 00:38:49,482
produce, what you decide you

1165
00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:52,652
wish to see in terms of level

1166
00:38:52,652 --> 00:38:53,519
of service for the next five,

1167
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:56,372
ten, 15 years in terms of the

1168
00:38:56,372 --> 00:38:57,323
stormwater program.

1169
00:38:57,323 --> 00:38:57,756
But we'll be able to staff that

1170
00:38:57,756 --> 00:38:59,756
appropriately provided the

1171
00:39:00,827 --> 00:39:01,476
necessary equipment and it will

1172
00:39:01,476 --> 00:39:04,330
be in line with whatever rate

1173
00:39:04,330 --> 00:39:04,864
revenues that we receive within

1174
00:39:04,864 --> 00:39:07,264
that storm water utility.

1175
00:39:07,516 --> 00:39:08,184
So somewhere around the first

1176
00:39:08,184 --> 00:39:08,902
the end of the first quarter,

1177
00:39:08,902 --> 00:39:11,870
second quarter of next fiscal

1178
00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:14,870
year probably be seeing a

1179
00:39:15,358 --> 00:39:16,910
budget amendment to that that

1180
00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:16,525
is not included in the current

1181
00:39:16,525 --> 00:39:18,925
budget is my point.

1182
00:39:19,579 --> 00:39:20,229
Utilities department.

1183
00:39:20,229 --> 00:39:23,229
The operations budget is in

1184
00:39:23,399 --> 00:39:23,917
line with current expenditure

1185
00:39:23,917 --> 00:39:26,269
needs associated with many

1186
00:39:26,269 --> 00:39:26,685
years of deferred maintenance

1187
00:39:26,685 --> 00:39:27,353
infrastructure maintenance that

1188
00:39:27,353 --> 00:39:30,424
was not accounted for until we

1189
00:39:30,424 --> 00:39:30,653
had our recent rate study

1190
00:39:30,653 --> 00:39:31,374
approved.

1191
00:39:31,374 --> 00:39:34,277
I believe that was in 2023.

1192
00:39:34,277 --> 00:39:35,127
We are in the second of a five

1193
00:39:35,127 --> 00:39:38,998
year rate study will be doing a

1194
00:39:38,998 --> 00:39:39,549
rate review or refresh if you

1195
00:39:39,549 --> 00:39:41,884
will, presenting the results of

1196
00:39:41,884 --> 00:39:42,535
that study with our consultants

1197
00:39:42,535 --> 00:39:45,535
at tell us sometime in

1198
00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:46,456
SEPTEMBER to give you an idea

1199
00:39:46,456 --> 00:39:49,456
of how well we're meeting

1200
00:39:49,626 --> 00:39:50,159
expenditures and and revenues,

1201
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:50,710
it's looking fairly good from

1202
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:53,710
what I've seen so far.

1203
00:39:55,699 --> 00:39:56,566
And I'll leave it at that.

1204
00:39:56,566 --> 00:39:59,535
And then of course, on the 18th

1205
00:39:59,535 --> 00:39:59,953
of last month you were you

1206
00:39:59,953 --> 00:40:00,303
received our utilities

1207
00:40:00,303 --> 00:40:02,303
infrastructure program update

1208
00:40:03,756 --> 00:40:04,407
in which we presented to you

1209
00:40:04,407 --> 00:40:07,661
our plan five years, the ip

1210
00:40:07,661 --> 00:40:08,194
program that included all

1211
00:40:08,194 --> 00:40:10,594
water, sewer and reclaimed

1212
00:40:10,947 --> 00:40:11,381
water excluding the costs

1213
00:40:11,381 --> 00:40:11,797
associated with the two

1214
00:40:11,797 --> 00:40:13,797
wastewater treatment plants.

1215
00:40:15,285 --> 00:40:18,285
This is strictly cip projects

1216
00:40:18,655 --> 00:40:19,406
that are needed outside of the

1217
00:40:19,406 --> 00:40:22,559
fence, if you will, of those

1218
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:22,776
two wastewater treatment plants

1219
00:40:22,776 --> 00:40:24,776
.

1220
00:40:25,545 --> 00:40:26,413
What we presented to you was a

1221
00:40:26,413 --> 00:40:28,665
five year study or a five year

1222
00:40:28,665 --> 00:40:29,299
plan based on current revenue

1223
00:40:29,299 --> 00:40:32,299
sources and needs and our

1224
00:40:32,986 --> 00:40:33,303
ability to be able to fund that

1225
00:40:33,303 --> 00:40:33,503
within current revenue

1226
00:40:33,503 --> 00:40:35,503
limitations.

1227
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:37,724
What we didn't know at that

1228
00:40:37,724 --> 00:40:40,770
time is that we received a

1229
00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:42,477
legislative grant earmark, if

1230
00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:43,563
you will, from the state for

1231
00:40:43,563 --> 00:40:44,314
three different projects.

1232
00:40:44,314 --> 00:40:47,184
We're in the process of

1233
00:40:47,184 --> 00:40:47,383
adjusting that cerp to reflect

1234
00:40:47,383 --> 00:40:49,383
maybe a.

1235
00:40:50,787 --> 00:40:51,422
Well, not maybe, but it will in

1236
00:40:51,422 --> 00:40:51,872
it will accelerate those three

1237
00:40:51,872 --> 00:40:54,272
projects, those being the

1238
00:40:54,824 --> 00:40:54,996
aerators on the water treatment

1239
00:40:54,996 --> 00:40:55,559
plants.

1240
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:57,959
Three the michael blake

1241
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,762
reclaimed water main project

1242
00:40:59,762 --> 00:41:02,762
and also a smaller bowel

1243
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:05,533
project on the line.

1244
00:41:09,873 --> 00:41:10,143
Potable water main in the city

1245
00:41:10,143 --> 00:41:10,941
.

1246
00:41:10,941 --> 00:41:13,827
>> so as I mentioned within the

1247
00:41:13,827 --> 00:41:14,545
budget book the c I p is not

1248
00:41:14,545 --> 00:41:16,980
changed that much since that

1249
00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:17,731
workshop.

1250
00:41:17,731 --> 00:41:20,184
just as an overview, there's

1251
00:41:20,184 --> 00:41:20,634
approximately 31 projects that

1252
00:41:20,634 --> 00:41:23,340
we have identified between

1253
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:26,223
water wastewater and reclaimed

1254
00:41:26,223 --> 00:41:26,757
water totaling around $34

1255
00:41:26,757 --> 00:41:29,157
million in today's dollars.

1256
00:41:31,645 --> 00:41:32,279
Over the next five years we

1257
00:41:32,279 --> 00:41:32,713
anticipate 11 of those

1258
00:41:32,713 --> 00:41:35,113
projects, possibly more with

1259
00:41:35,966 --> 00:41:38,366
this new infusion of

1260
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,370
legislative funding for fiscal

1261
00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:41,672
year 26 totaling about $9.7

1262
00:41:41,672 --> 00:41:44,672
million for next fiscal year.

1263
00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:45,476
Separately, the east and west

1264
00:41:45,476 --> 00:41:45,892
water reclamation facilities,

1265
00:41:45,892 --> 00:41:47,892
wastewater reclamation

1266
00:41:49,646 --> 00:41:52,460
facilities for fiscal year 26

1267
00:41:52,399 --> 00:41:54,799
is budgeted at $25 million.

1268
00:41:55,352 --> 00:41:55,853
That includes a $20 million

1269
00:41:55,853 --> 00:41:56,720
loan from us sorry up.

1270
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,707
A lot of unknowns out there

1271
00:41:59,707 --> 00:42:00,357
right now, but we want to be

1272
00:42:00,357 --> 00:42:02,376
ready in anticipation of that

1273
00:42:02,376 --> 00:42:02,927
going forward.

1274
00:42:02,927 --> 00:42:04,927
>> that concludes really

1275
00:42:06,181 --> 00:42:06,614
everything I have on the

1276
00:42:06,614 --> 00:42:08,614
current fiscal year 26.

1277
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:10,317
But I do have some anticipated

1278
00:42:10,317 --> 00:42:11,185
future look ahead.

1279
00:42:11,185 --> 00:42:14,238
So I'd like to share with you

1280
00:42:14,238 --> 00:42:15,106
I'm currently gathering propose

1281
00:42:15,106 --> 00:42:18,158
a proposal for a 5 to 10 year

1282
00:42:18,158 --> 00:42:19,260
payment management plan.

1283
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:19,860
It's a data driven plan that

1284
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:22,497
will be assessing all of the

1285
00:42:22,497 --> 00:42:22,750
payment conditions throughout

1286
00:42:22,750 --> 00:42:24,750
the city.

1287
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,750
We'll be able to present that

1288
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:30,370
to you in the coming months.

1289
00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:30,771
It will show our very fact

1290
00:42:30,771 --> 00:42:33,524
based data driven assessment of

1291
00:42:33,524 --> 00:42:33,801
all the conditions of our

1292
00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:34,292
streets.

1293
00:42:34,292 --> 00:42:37,128
It'll be based on payment

1294
00:42:37,128 --> 00:42:37,544
management philosophy which

1295
00:42:37,544 --> 00:42:37,795
sometimes can sound

1296
00:42:37,795 --> 00:42:38,530
counterintuitive.

1297
00:42:38,530 --> 00:42:41,600
I don't want to get into the

1298
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,250
weeds on that right now, but it

1299
00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:45,620
will address all of our roads

1300
00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:46,453
over the next five, ten, 15

1301
00:42:46,453 --> 00:42:49,307
years and beyond on a cyclic

1302
00:42:49,307 --> 00:42:50,107
pattern.

1303
00:42:50,107 --> 00:42:50,724
And as long as funding is

1304
00:42:50,724 --> 00:42:53,694
provided, so long as we're able

1305
00:42:53,694 --> 00:42:54,280
to keep it going, I highly

1306
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,462
recommend that whatever

1307
00:42:54,462 --> 00:42:56,862
transportation funds that we

1308
00:42:57,632 --> 00:42:57,845
get, we invest heavily into our

1309
00:42:57,845 --> 00:42:58,583
pavement.

1310
00:42:58,583 --> 00:43:00,635
I think overall our pavement

1311
00:43:00,635 --> 00:43:00,951
condition is fairly good

1312
00:43:00,951 --> 00:43:01,285
compared to other

1313
00:43:01,285 --> 00:43:03,285
municipalities and counties

1314
00:43:04,438 --> 00:43:05,306
I've worked in.

1315
00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:08,759
We will also have a sidewalk

1316
00:43:08,759 --> 00:43:09,310
maintenance plan that will look

1317
00:43:09,310 --> 00:43:12,310
at projected costs over time

1318
00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:13,415
and we'll also defined areas of

1319
00:43:13,415 --> 00:43:15,666
need addressing all ada

1320
00:43:15,666 --> 00:43:18,660
requirements at all crosswalks

1321
00:43:19,153 --> 00:43:19,453
and we'll fold that into the

1322
00:43:19,453 --> 00:43:21,453
as well.

1323
00:43:22,123 --> 00:43:22,858
And then of course we're also

1324
00:43:22,858 --> 00:43:23,307
working on a five year

1325
00:43:23,307 --> 00:43:25,707
equipment replacement plan that

1326
00:43:25,859 --> 00:43:26,511
will cover all police, all of

1327
00:43:26,511 --> 00:43:29,464
our heavy equipment on and off

1328
00:43:29,464 --> 00:43:30,131
road vehicles and equipment

1329
00:43:30,131 --> 00:43:33,301
over the next five years and

1330
00:43:33,301 --> 00:43:33,935
beyond so that we can better

1331
00:43:33,935 --> 00:43:34,486
plan and budget for those

1332
00:43:34,486 --> 00:43:37,486
expenditures as they come up

1333
00:43:37,855 --> 00:43:38,389
instead of reacting when things

1334
00:43:38,389 --> 00:43:39,124
break and we don't to

1335
00:43:39,124 --> 00:43:41,750
anticipate it, we'll have a

1336
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:41,726
good idea of when those things

1337
00:43:41,726 --> 00:43:44,726
need that piece, those pieces

1338
00:43:44,879 --> 00:43:45,130
of equipment need to be

1339
00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:47,130
replaced.

1340
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:51,500
And finally, ultimately long

1341
00:43:51,436 --> 00:43:51,753
term in 2027, all of these are

1342
00:43:51,753 --> 00:43:53,753
2026, 27 year.

1343
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,558
It's my goal to provide the

1344
00:43:56,558 --> 00:43:59,127
community and yourselves with a

1345
00:43:59,127 --> 00:43:59,560
dashboard, an online dashboard

1346
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,560
that's gis based.

1347
00:44:03,247 --> 00:44:04,820
It will have a comprehensive

1348
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:06,835
view of all projects going on

1349
00:44:06,835 --> 00:44:07,602
in the city.

1350
00:44:07,602 --> 00:44:10,772
we can refer members of the

1351
00:44:10,772 --> 00:44:11,539
community to go to that if they

1352
00:44:11,539 --> 00:44:12,274
want to find out when a certain

1353
00:44:12,274 --> 00:44:14,242
roads being paved, where it's

1354
00:44:14,242 --> 00:44:14,893
going to be paved, how much it

1355
00:44:14,893 --> 00:44:17,893
cost, what utility projects are

1356
00:44:18,162 --> 00:44:21,649
going on, etc., etc. That as

1357
00:44:21,649 --> 00:44:21,949
you can imagine will be a very

1358
00:44:21,949 --> 00:44:23,949
comprehensive task.

1359
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:25,770
It's going to all have to

1360
00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:28,606
solicit much help from various

1361
00:44:28,606 --> 00:44:29,157
departments, including finance

1362
00:44:29,157 --> 00:44:32,157
and operations and being able

1363
00:44:32,944 --> 00:44:33,695
to put that together and get it

1364
00:44:33,695 --> 00:44:36,931
in a cogent and sensible format

1365
00:44:36,931 --> 00:44:37,482
where everybody can easily

1366
00:44:37,482 --> 00:44:40,482
understand when they will get

1367
00:44:41,153 --> 00:44:41,903
paid, when their water line

1368
00:44:41,903 --> 00:44:44,156
might be replaced, when do it

1369
00:44:44,156 --> 00:44:47,156
to dissipate being able to

1370
00:44:47,609 --> 00:44:48,260
schedule whatever activities

1371
00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:50,829
they want to schedule, thus

1372
00:44:50,829 --> 00:44:51,546
reducing a lot of costs to our

1373
00:44:51,546 --> 00:44:54,546
public information folks or our

1374
00:44:55,217 --> 00:44:55,434
customer service folks at the

1375
00:44:55,434 --> 00:44:56,202
front desk.

1376
00:44:56,202 --> 00:44:59,154
A lot of this information will

1377
00:44:59,154 --> 00:44:59,922
be readily available, cutting

1378
00:44:59,922 --> 00:45:00,138
down a lot of inquires to the

1379
00:45:00,138 --> 00:45:02,138
front desk.

1380
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:03,308
And that concludes my

1381
00:45:03,308 --> 00:45:03,976
presentation.

1382
00:45:03,976 --> 00:45:04,993
Be happy to answer any specific

1383
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:08,593
questions you have at the end

1384
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,250
of this

1385
00:45:15,971 --> 00:45:17,971
.

1386
00:45:19,941 --> 00:45:21,941
Thank you, kelly.

1387
00:45:24,112 --> 00:45:24,446
Good afternoon, mayor.

1388
00:45:24,446 --> 00:45:24,763
Deputy mayor.

1389
00:45:24,763 --> 00:45:25,430
City commission.

1390
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:27,650
City manager for the record

1391
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:27,483
brian down again director of

1392
00:45:27,483 --> 00:45:27,682
administrative services and

1393
00:45:27,682 --> 00:45:28,551
operations.

1394
00:45:28,551 --> 00:45:31,303
I'd like to provide a high

1395
00:45:31,303 --> 00:45:31,736
level budgetary summary of the

1396
00:45:31,736 --> 00:45:33,736
following city departments

1397
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:37,590
which include human resources,

1398
00:45:39,610 --> 00:45:39,495
risk management, I.T parks and

1399
00:45:39,495 --> 00:45:41,895
recreation or beautification as

1400
00:45:42,164 --> 00:45:42,514
arbor as well as the city's

1401
00:45:42,514 --> 00:45:44,514
three assessment districts.

1402
00:45:46,168 --> 00:45:46,702
Overall, the personnel related

1403
00:45:46,702 --> 00:45:47,336
expenses for the employees that

1404
00:45:47,336 --> 00:45:50,336
are assigned to these divisions

1405
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:53,458
for fy 26 we're proposing a

1406
00:45:53,458 --> 00:45:54,920
6.28% decrease for personnel

1407
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,492
related expenses for these

1408
00:45:56,546 --> 00:45:58,946
employees overall and an

1409
00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:00,649
operating decrease for the

1410
00:46:00,649 --> 00:46:01,820
divisions that are primarily

1411
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:03,482
funded through ad valorem.

1412
00:46:04,530 --> 00:46:04,369
Which would be your H.R.

1413
00:46:04,369 --> 00:46:04,903
I.T.

1414
00:46:04,903 --> 00:46:05,421
Risk management parks and

1415
00:46:05,421 --> 00:46:07,421
recreation and urban

1416
00:46:08,674 --> 00:46:11,740
beautification reduction of by

1417
00:46:11,427 --> 00:46:11,944
approximately 1.15% and the

1418
00:46:11,944 --> 00:46:13,944
capital expenses proposed

1419
00:46:15,814 --> 00:46:18,214
decrease by about 79.5% for

1420
00:46:18,451 --> 00:46:19,301
those divisions.

1421
00:46:19,301 --> 00:46:22,301
Looking at the human resources

1422
00:46:22,554 --> 00:46:25,554
division of the city, looking

1423
00:46:26,442 --> 00:46:29,950
at turnover trends citywide, we

1424
00:46:29,950 --> 00:46:31,263
had a voluntary separation rate

1425
00:46:31,263 --> 00:46:34,717
from AUGUST of 2023 to JUNE of

1426
00:46:34,717 --> 00:46:34,907
2024 reduction from 23.3% to

1427
00:46:34,907 --> 00:46:35,601
13.3%.

1428
00:46:35,601 --> 00:46:38,237
So these are employees that are

1429
00:46:38,237 --> 00:46:38,971
on their own voluntarily

1430
00:46:38,971 --> 00:46:41,971
leaving the city for whatever

1431
00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:43,160
reason to go seek employment

1432
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:43,709
elsewhere.

1433
00:46:43,709 --> 00:46:46,345
In most cases not including

1434
00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:47,630
retirements.

1435
00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:47,613
These are so that that metric

1436
00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:50,282
does not include employees who

1437
00:46:50,282 --> 00:46:50,799
would be planning to retire

1438
00:46:50,799 --> 00:46:53,199
from from the city.

1439
00:46:54,671 --> 00:46:56,205
We have seen a slight increase

1440
00:46:56,205 --> 00:46:56,956
for reporting period from

1441
00:46:56,956 --> 00:47:00,426
OCTOBER 1st to current up to

1442
00:47:00,426 --> 00:47:01,144
about 17.7%, which is a little

1443
00:47:01,144 --> 00:47:01,995
bit higher than we'd like to be

1444
00:47:01,995 --> 00:47:04,646
in that 12 to 15% range, which

1445
00:47:04,646 --> 00:47:04,914
is generally accepted for

1446
00:47:04,914 --> 00:47:06,914
government entities.

1447
00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:08,968
However, when you take out the

1448
00:47:08,968 --> 00:47:10,968
sworn law enforcement

1449
00:47:12,438 --> 00:47:12,989
departures and isolate the rest

1450
00:47:12,989 --> 00:47:13,506
of the government, we're at

1451
00:47:13,506 --> 00:47:15,506
about 11.6% voluntary

1452
00:47:16,542 --> 00:47:17,309
separation.

1453
00:47:17,309 --> 00:47:17,944
So this trend reflects some of

1454
00:47:17,944 --> 00:47:19,896
the challenges that chief tract

1455
00:47:19,896 --> 00:47:20,746
shared in his summary with you

1456
00:47:20,746 --> 00:47:23,599
all that we continue to see

1457
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:24,160
increased voluntary

1458
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,160
separations, particularly on

1459
00:47:27,486 --> 00:47:27,637
the law and law enforcement

1460
00:47:27,637 --> 00:47:28,421
side.

1461
00:47:28,421 --> 00:47:30,821
The department continues to

1462
00:47:31,574 --> 00:47:32,108
support employee wellness,

1463
00:47:32,108 --> 00:47:34,508
safety training and employee

1464
00:47:35,779 --> 00:47:36,479
recognition programs.

1465
00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:36,879
So we have had some measurable

1466
00:47:36,879 --> 00:47:39,279
gains specifically in the

1467
00:47:39,432 --> 00:47:39,966
outcome of some of these safety

1468
00:47:39,966 --> 00:47:40,616
and training programs which

1469
00:47:40,616 --> 00:47:43,469
I'll discuss as it pertains to

1470
00:47:43,469 --> 00:47:43,986
our workers compensation

1471
00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:45,986
experience modification factor.

1472
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:47,289
Imf here in a second.

1473
00:47:47,289 --> 00:47:50,289
Looking at risk management, we

1474
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,294
have seen an 8.4% increase in

1475
00:47:51,294 --> 00:47:53,694
premiums for a general

1476
00:47:54,748 --> 00:47:55,181
liability property worker's

1477
00:47:55,181 --> 00:47:56,320
comp and auto coverage.

1478
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,320
However, we were able to

1479
00:47:59,850 --> 00:47:59,752
essentially keep that cost the

1480
00:47:59,752 --> 00:48:01,588
same this year because we were

1481
00:48:01,588 --> 00:48:02,121
able to more accurately budget

1482
00:48:02,121 --> 00:48:02,455
with receiving that number

1483
00:48:02,455 --> 00:48:04,455
sooner in advance.

1484
00:48:05,708 --> 00:48:06,276
During the budget cycle this

1485
00:48:06,276 --> 00:48:09,276
year compared to last year.

1486
00:48:09,546 --> 00:48:10,800
But I will say that overall

1487
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:10,730
insurance premiums continue to

1488
00:48:10,730 --> 00:48:13,900
be one of the most volatile

1489
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:16,300
costs the city experiences.

1490
00:48:16,670 --> 00:48:17,520
We've seen a 130% increase

1491
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,137
since f y 15 in those areas

1492
00:48:18,137 --> 00:48:20,537
primarily attributed to a

1493
00:48:21,107 --> 00:48:21,841
highly litigious environment.

1494
00:48:21,841 --> 00:48:24,241
Major hurricanes impacting our

1495
00:48:25,411 --> 00:48:28,298
area our region I should say in

1496
00:48:28,298 --> 00:48:30,698
2017, 2022 and 2024 as well as

1497
00:48:31,551 --> 00:48:32,169
potential future increases

1498
00:48:32,169 --> 00:48:32,686
because of statutory salary,

1499
00:48:32,686 --> 00:48:34,686
sovereign immunity increases

1500
00:48:35,238 --> 00:48:37,638
and caps through legislative

1501
00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:38,959
sessions at the state.

1502
00:48:38,959 --> 00:48:41,812
One of the areas where we had

1503
00:48:41,812 --> 00:48:42,145
some positive gains has been on

1504
00:48:42,145 --> 00:48:42,329
our workers compensation

1505
00:48:42,329 --> 00:48:44,329
premiums.

1506
00:48:46,330 --> 00:48:46,667
We've actually reduced our emf

1507
00:48:46,667 --> 00:48:49,667
recently, which is the factor

1508
00:48:50,137 --> 00:48:50,470
that's used to determine our

1509
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:52,470
worker's compensation rates

1510
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:54,707
which is going to allow us to

1511
00:48:54,707 --> 00:48:55,241
help control if not keep some

1512
00:48:55,241 --> 00:48:57,641
of those costs flat,

1513
00:48:58,412 --> 00:48:58,845
particularly when it comes to

1514
00:48:58,845 --> 00:49:01,245
ensuring our law enforcement

1515
00:49:02,115 --> 00:49:02,666
employees which are by far the

1516
00:49:02,666 --> 00:49:03,400
highest risk group of employees

1517
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,935
that we have to insure for

1518
00:49:04,935 --> 00:49:05,869
worker's comp coverage.

1519
00:49:05,869 --> 00:49:08,269
>> moving on to information

1520
00:49:09,556 --> 00:49:12,943
technology, I.T. In itself, we

1521
00:49:12,943 --> 00:49:13,576
did see an increase of about

1522
00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:15,976
10% in non personnel related

1523
00:49:17,130 --> 00:49:17,898
operating expenses for I.T..

1524
00:49:17,898 --> 00:49:20,898
Some of the drivers behind

1525
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:21,485
those increases was a

1526
00:49:21,485 --> 00:49:23,885
consolidation of cellular and

1527
00:49:24,138 --> 00:49:24,588
data plans for under the it's

1528
00:49:24,588 --> 00:49:25,890
budget for general fund

1529
00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:27,890
departments where previous

1530
00:49:28,574 --> 00:49:28,909
practice was that some of these

1531
00:49:28,909 --> 00:49:30,909
departments were budgeting

1532
00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:32,316
their cellular and data plans

1533
00:49:32,316 --> 00:49:33,146
underneath.

1534
00:49:33,146 --> 00:49:36,299
G for example has a computer in

1535
00:49:36,299 --> 00:49:36,734
every single car because he's

1536
00:49:36,734 --> 00:49:39,134
funded through the general

1537
00:49:39,987 --> 00:49:40,621
department and I.T department

1538
00:49:40,621 --> 00:49:41,471
as a general fund function.

1539
00:49:41,471 --> 00:49:43,306
It makes more sense to

1540
00:49:43,306 --> 00:49:43,524
consolidate those dollars under

1541
00:49:43,524 --> 00:49:44,474
one budget.

1542
00:49:44,474 --> 00:49:47,662
It makes for a lot more

1543
00:49:47,662 --> 00:49:48,950
efficiency when it comes to

1544
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:48,945
paying invoices and creating

1545
00:49:48,945 --> 00:49:51,799
ppos rather than have to create

1546
00:49:51,799 --> 00:49:54,340
purchase orders out of multiple

1547
00:49:54,340 --> 00:49:54,568
different departments when

1548
00:49:54,568 --> 00:49:55,200
ultimately they're all funded

1549
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,202
through the same revenue

1550
00:49:55,202 --> 00:49:57,202
source.

1551
00:49:58,589 --> 00:50:01,589
The other cost increase driver

1552
00:50:02,358 --> 00:50:02,693
is subscription based based I.T

1553
00:50:02,693 --> 00:50:04,693
products in softwares.

1554
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:07,215
The days of being able to go

1555
00:50:07,215 --> 00:50:09,615
out and outright purchase

1556
00:50:10,367 --> 00:50:10,587
software for support tools is

1557
00:50:10,587 --> 00:50:11,135
nonexistent.

1558
00:50:11,135 --> 00:50:14,135
Almost all of our software

1559
00:50:14,388 --> 00:50:15,550
tools are subscription based or

1560
00:50:15,550 --> 00:50:18,408
term based that are subject to

1561
00:50:18,408 --> 00:50:19,126
increases either annually or at

1562
00:50:19,126 --> 00:50:19,677
the end of terms when it comes

1563
00:50:19,677 --> 00:50:19,876
to renegotiate or reshot for

1564
00:50:19,876 --> 00:50:21,876
products.

1565
00:50:22,162 --> 00:50:22,880
We're not able to just go out

1566
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,865
and outright buy, purchase and

1567
00:50:25,865 --> 00:50:26,600
own software at a fixed cost.

1568
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,000
It's not something that's

1569
00:50:29,453 --> 00:50:30,221
offered in the I.T.

1570
00:50:30,221 --> 00:50:30,420
Market for the tools that we

1571
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:32,420
need.

1572
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:36,900
Additionally we were required

1573
00:50:37,445 --> 00:50:37,894
to implement a learning

1574
00:50:37,894 --> 00:50:40,294
management software with a

1575
00:50:41,248 --> 00:50:41,882
primary focus on cybersecurity

1576
00:50:41,882 --> 00:50:42,533
that was mandated through some

1577
00:50:42,533 --> 00:50:45,369
recent updates to the florida

1578
00:50:45,369 --> 00:50:46,237
state statutes.

1579
00:50:46,237 --> 00:50:46,971
So that's another example of a

1580
00:50:46,971 --> 00:50:48,923
cost increase that the it

1581
00:50:48,923 --> 00:50:49,674
department is required to take

1582
00:50:49,674 --> 00:50:53,274
on in order to remain compliant

1583
00:50:56,363 --> 00:50:57,320
with statutory demands.

1584
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:57,782
>> the it department continues

1585
00:50:57,782 --> 00:51:00,435
to play a strategic role in

1586
00:51:00,435 --> 00:51:00,751
multiple multiple citywide

1587
00:51:00,751 --> 00:51:01,184
initiatives aimed at

1588
00:51:01,184 --> 00:51:03,521
streamlining not only the

1589
00:51:03,521 --> 00:51:03,971
processes but increasing the

1590
00:51:03,971 --> 00:51:04,405
efficiency at which our

1591
00:51:04,405 --> 00:51:04,722
departments deliver services to

1592
00:51:04,722 --> 00:51:06,722
our residents.

1593
00:51:08,209 --> 00:51:08,809
One of the upcoming focuses

1594
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:11,378
that we're going to be looking

1595
00:51:11,378 --> 00:51:12,129
at is the implementation of an

1596
00:51:12,129 --> 00:51:12,864
ai tool to be integrated into

1597
00:51:12,864 --> 00:51:15,833
the city's website which will

1598
00:51:15,833 --> 00:51:16,266
allow residents to find key

1599
00:51:16,266 --> 00:51:16,785
information on city projects,

1600
00:51:16,785 --> 00:51:18,785
initiatives and general

1601
00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:20,171
inquiries.

1602
00:51:20,171 --> 00:51:20,705
Additional example of some

1603
00:51:20,705 --> 00:51:23,705
functions that I.T department

1604
00:51:23,958 --> 00:51:24,608
will continue to support will

1605
00:51:24,608 --> 00:51:27,444
be ongoing gis upgrades that

1606
00:51:27,444 --> 00:51:27,628
will support citywide

1607
00:51:27,628 --> 00:51:28,379
functions.

1608
00:51:28,379 --> 00:51:30,731
Capital investments into key

1609
00:51:30,731 --> 00:51:31,165
I.T infrastructure replacement

1610
00:51:31,165 --> 00:51:33,565
and components that are

1611
00:51:34,736 --> 00:51:35,285
paramount to the function of

1612
00:51:35,285 --> 00:51:35,703
the organization as well as

1613
00:51:35,703 --> 00:51:37,703
ongoing public safety

1614
00:51:38,657 --> 00:51:40,657
technology enhancements.

1615
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,161
Moving over to the parks and

1616
00:51:43,161 --> 00:51:45,161
recreation side.

1617
00:51:46,531 --> 00:51:47,810
>> what I consider our daily

1618
00:51:47,810 --> 00:51:47,614
operating costs which are going

1619
00:51:47,614 --> 00:51:50,485
to be your parks maintenance

1620
00:51:50,485 --> 00:51:51,850
senior center recreation

1621
00:51:51,850 --> 00:51:53,850
program divisions approximately

1622
00:51:54,138 --> 00:51:56,538
a 10% decrease in those

1623
00:51:56,991 --> 00:51:59,744
operating costs from fy 25 to

1624
00:51:59,744 --> 00:52:00,461
26 total department budget just

1625
00:52:00,461 --> 00:52:02,461
over $3 million with

1626
00:52:04,248 --> 00:52:06,648
approximately a $421,000 in add

1627
00:52:07,401 --> 00:52:08,350
non ad valorem revenue

1628
00:52:08,350 --> 00:52:08,553
projection right now which

1629
00:52:08,553 --> 00:52:10,953
would primarily be generated

1630
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:14,709
from user fees for charges for

1631
00:52:14,709 --> 00:52:14,909
use of services and facilities

1632
00:52:14,909 --> 00:52:15,677
.

1633
00:52:15,677 --> 00:52:19,131
One of the areas that you

1634
00:52:19,131 --> 00:52:22,830
probably noticed a variation in

1635
00:52:22,830 --> 00:52:22,851
this year's budget from 25 to

1636
00:52:22,851 --> 00:52:25,887
26 is in our special event or

1637
00:52:25,887 --> 00:52:26,320
community event division.

1638
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,972
Previously previous practice

1639
00:52:26,972 --> 00:52:29,107
for some of the smaller

1640
00:52:29,107 --> 00:52:29,658
community events we were not

1641
00:52:29,658 --> 00:52:32,658
budgeting any of the revenues

1642
00:52:33,127 --> 00:52:33,779
or any of the expenses for some

1643
00:52:33,779 --> 00:52:34,412
of the smaller events such as

1644
00:52:34,412 --> 00:52:36,812
the hometown harvest for

1645
00:52:36,848 --> 00:52:37,699
example.

1646
00:52:37,699 --> 00:52:39,952
So that meant that once we

1647
00:52:39,952 --> 00:52:40,603
collected all of the revenues

1648
00:52:40,603 --> 00:52:41,520
and spent that money for the

1649
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,452
associated costs with those

1650
00:52:44,106 --> 00:52:44,457
events we would have to come

1651
00:52:44,457 --> 00:52:46,457
back administratively because

1652
00:52:47,810 --> 00:52:48,359
of the way we're structured and

1653
00:52:48,359 --> 00:52:49,194
the budget amendment that would

1654
00:52:49,194 --> 00:52:51,290
have to be approved by the

1655
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:51,796
commission.

1656
00:52:51,796 --> 00:52:54,966
It seemed like that was a

1657
00:52:54,966 --> 00:52:55,366
little bit inefficient process

1658
00:52:55,366 --> 00:52:56,250
to do that.

1659
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:56,985
So what we did is we began

1660
00:52:56,985 --> 00:52:59,538
budgeting for both the revenues

1661
00:52:59,538 --> 00:53:00,880
and the expenses on those

1662
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,488
events starting in fy 26.

1663
00:53:03,476 --> 00:53:06,144
So the methodology is not going

1664
00:53:06,144 --> 00:53:06,678
to change if we for that that

1665
00:53:06,678 --> 00:53:09,678
event specifically I'll use it

1666
00:53:10,465 --> 00:53:11,160
as an example if we bring in

1667
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,416
$15,000 in revenue for the

1668
00:53:14,169 --> 00:53:14,720
hometown harvest, then we'll

1669
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:14,919
have $15,000 in expenses or

1670
00:53:14,919 --> 00:53:16,919
less.

1671
00:53:17,906 --> 00:53:18,456
So we're not going to change

1672
00:53:18,456 --> 00:53:20,992
the philosophy of how we're

1673
00:53:20,992 --> 00:53:21,643
we're managing the funds but

1674
00:53:21,643 --> 00:53:22,760
we're just budgeting for both

1675
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,476
the revenues and expenses

1676
00:53:25,131 --> 00:53:27,131
beginning this year.

1677
00:53:27,899 --> 00:53:28,633
So if you see an increase there

1678
00:53:28,633 --> 00:53:31,633
as far as major public

1679
00:53:32,204 --> 00:53:32,837
enhancements that are in this

1680
00:53:32,837 --> 00:53:35,837
budget, we do have funded

1681
00:53:36,409 --> 00:53:37,420
through the park impact fees

1682
00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:39,442
$100,000 for a lacrosse wall

1683
00:53:40,713 --> 00:53:41,263
out at central winds park,

1684
00:53:41,263 --> 00:53:41,997
which has been something that

1685
00:53:41,997 --> 00:53:44,666
the parks and rec advisory

1686
00:53:44,666 --> 00:53:45,333
committee has asked staff to be

1687
00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:45,485
looking into for a number of

1688
00:53:45,485 --> 00:53:47,485
years.

1689
00:53:47,686 --> 00:53:48,303
In addition, we're looking at

1690
00:53:48,303 --> 00:53:50,303
about $100,000 in ada

1691
00:53:52,708 --> 00:53:53,141
enhancements in the parks to

1692
00:53:53,141 --> 00:53:55,541
increase connectivity to some

1693
00:53:56,195 --> 00:53:56,424
of the amenities that we're

1694
00:53:56,424 --> 00:53:57,450
offering.

1695
00:53:57,450 --> 00:53:57,696
Again, those two initiatives

1696
00:53:57,696 --> 00:53:59,514
would be funded through park

1697
00:53:59,514 --> 00:53:59,848
impact fees.

1698
00:53:59,848 --> 00:54:00,466
Future enhancements

1699
00:54:00,466 --> 00:54:02,866
particularly at central winds

1700
00:54:03,635 --> 00:54:04,169
and other parks should align

1701
00:54:04,169 --> 00:54:06,569
ideally with the recently

1702
00:54:07,523 --> 00:54:08,730
adopted central winds park

1703
00:54:08,730 --> 00:54:10,208
master plan and ideally be

1704
00:54:10,208 --> 00:54:10,642
incorporated into the city's

1705
00:54:10,642 --> 00:54:12,642
comprehensive plan specifically

1706
00:54:14,513 --> 00:54:15,248
the recreation and open space

1707
00:54:15,248 --> 00:54:18,217
element to best position the

1708
00:54:18,217 --> 00:54:18,634
city to be eligible for funding

1709
00:54:18,634 --> 00:54:20,634
in the future.

1710
00:54:22,221 --> 00:54:22,738
New initiatives that the parks

1711
00:54:22,738 --> 00:54:25,138
and recreation department is

1712
00:54:25,324 --> 00:54:25,841
looking at in terms of employee

1713
00:54:25,841 --> 00:54:28,241
training is licensing more

1714
00:54:30,412 --> 00:54:31,790
employees to be trained and

1715
00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:34,532
certified by the state to apply

1716
00:54:34,532 --> 00:54:35,168
chemicals, pesticides and

1717
00:54:35,168 --> 00:54:37,520
fertilizers in our parks to

1718
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:37,953
broaden our workforce.

1719
00:54:37,953 --> 00:54:39,953
Expanding programing offers

1720
00:54:41,307 --> 00:54:41,957
offerings on the recreation

1721
00:54:41,957 --> 00:54:44,410
side include looking at infant

1722
00:54:44,410 --> 00:54:44,926
survival swim programs, stem

1723
00:54:44,926 --> 00:54:45,477
programs and exploring new

1724
00:54:45,477 --> 00:54:47,877
community events, including a

1725
00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:49,265
potential barbecue festival in

1726
00:54:49,265 --> 00:54:51,265
the spring of 2026.

1727
00:54:52,617 --> 00:54:53,569
Central one's park.

1728
00:54:53,569 --> 00:54:56,569
>> moving on to the urban

1729
00:54:56,839 --> 00:54:57,473
beautification ann arbor fund,

1730
00:54:57,473 --> 00:55:00,473
the operating budget for the

1731
00:55:00,727 --> 00:55:01,276
urban beautification division

1732
00:55:01,276 --> 00:55:04,276
which again is funded through

1733
00:55:04,546 --> 00:55:04,980
the ad valorem dollars saw

1734
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:06,980
about a 12.5% decrease.

1735
00:55:08,667 --> 00:55:09,219
A lot of this was attributed to

1736
00:55:09,219 --> 00:55:09,853
allocating some of the expenses

1737
00:55:09,853 --> 00:55:12,853
with that department to the

1738
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:13,572
arbor fund, which is a

1739
00:55:13,572 --> 00:55:16,441
restricted fund that can only

1740
00:55:16,441 --> 00:55:17,176
be used for restricted purposes

1741
00:55:17,176 --> 00:55:19,576
in the fy 26 budget.

1742
00:55:19,828 --> 00:55:22,899
We do have a proposed operating

1743
00:55:22,899 --> 00:55:23,616
expense of the arbor fund of

1744
00:55:23,616 --> 00:55:26,160
$923,000 that's supported by an

1745
00:55:27,319 --> 00:55:31,519
end of year fund balance at the

1746
00:55:35,461 --> 00:55:40,261
end of f y 25 for that it's not

1747
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:41,201
at our 930, 2024 of $1.82

1748
00:55:41,201 --> 00:55:43,201
million.

1749
00:55:44,737 --> 00:55:45,338
Some of the potential upgrades

1750
00:55:45,338 --> 00:55:47,338
citywide include landscaping

1751
00:55:48,190 --> 00:55:48,725
enhancements on state route 434

1752
00:55:48,725 --> 00:55:51,125
collector road median and

1753
00:55:51,161 --> 00:55:51,944
traffic calming enhancements on

1754
00:55:51,944 --> 00:55:54,880
the west side of the city and

1755
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,164
city facility and parkland heat

1756
00:55:55,164 --> 00:55:57,164
scaping renovations.

1757
00:55:58,801 --> 00:55:59,435
The arbor fund does continue in

1758
00:55:59,435 --> 00:55:59,969
this budget to support the

1759
00:55:59,969 --> 00:56:02,369
city's annual tree giveaway

1760
00:56:03,456 --> 00:56:06,920
program as well as right of way

1761
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:06,743
tree replacement programs.

1762
00:56:06,743 --> 00:56:07,292
Moving on to the assessment

1763
00:56:07,292 --> 00:56:10,292
districts, as you well know,

1764
00:56:10,346 --> 00:56:10,713
the city does have three

1765
00:56:10,713 --> 00:56:12,713
special assessment districts.

1766
00:56:15,268 --> 00:56:15,601
They are located at the oak

1767
00:56:15,601 --> 00:56:15,785
forest water assessment

1768
00:56:15,785 --> 00:56:17,785
district.

1769
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:18,405
The task will add lighting and

1770
00:56:18,405 --> 00:56:20,405
beautification district in

1771
00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:22,508
tuscola three, also known as

1772
00:56:22,508 --> 00:56:22,775
the hawks reserve wall

1773
00:56:22,775 --> 00:56:24,775
assessment district.

1774
00:56:26,396 --> 00:56:26,729
Currently we do have a

1775
00:56:26,729 --> 00:56:28,729
consolidated rate study

1776
00:56:30,299 --> 00:56:30,950
underway to evaluate the fees

1777
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:31,234
for all three of those special

1778
00:56:31,234 --> 00:56:33,234
assessment districts.

1779
00:56:34,453 --> 00:56:36,907
It made most sense to have that

1780
00:56:36,907 --> 00:56:37,541
study done concurrent with one

1781
00:56:37,541 --> 00:56:40,541
another for all three districts

1782
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:41,661
so that we could maximize the

1783
00:56:41,661 --> 00:56:42,395
buying power of having a

1784
00:56:42,395 --> 00:56:44,231
consultant come in and look at

1785
00:56:44,231 --> 00:56:44,981
those rates.

1786
00:56:44,981 --> 00:56:47,951
The big increase that you're

1787
00:56:47,951 --> 00:56:51,551
going to see in the top

1788
00:56:51,804 --> 00:56:52,756
assessment expenses is the

1789
00:56:52,756 --> 00:56:56,325
board met back in MAY and we

1790
00:56:56,325 --> 00:56:56,760
presented an idea of potential

1791
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,160
upgrades to look at

1792
00:57:00,130 --> 00:57:00,546
opportunities for enhancements

1793
00:57:00,546 --> 00:57:00,764
throughout the community that

1794
00:57:00,764 --> 00:57:01,631
are due.

1795
00:57:01,631 --> 00:57:04,684
As most of you know, winter

1796
00:57:04,684 --> 00:57:07,840
springs boulevard from tuscola

1797
00:57:07,837 --> 00:57:08,271
road all the way to 426, we

1798
00:57:08,271 --> 00:57:08,504
have center medians throughout

1799
00:57:08,504 --> 00:57:10,504
the corridor.

1800
00:57:11,441 --> 00:57:11,775
there's 23 separate medians

1801
00:57:11,775 --> 00:57:13,775
throughout the corridor.

1802
00:57:14,544 --> 00:57:18,144
A lot of those medians have

1803
00:57:18,315 --> 00:57:19,660
aged out landscaping material

1804
00:57:19,660 --> 00:57:19,516
that that is due to be replaced

1805
00:57:19,516 --> 00:57:21,916
in the near future.

1806
00:57:22,785 --> 00:57:26,473
So we went to the board, gave

1807
00:57:26,473 --> 00:57:27,123
them a a existing inventory of

1808
00:57:27,123 --> 00:57:29,359
their medians as well as their

1809
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:30,110
monument feature entrances

1810
00:57:30,110 --> 00:57:30,727
which are on some of the

1811
00:57:30,727 --> 00:57:33,127
collector roads vista willa

1812
00:57:34,113 --> 00:57:34,548
tuscarora some of the entrances

1813
00:57:34,548 --> 00:57:36,948
into the community shetland

1814
00:57:37,202 --> 00:57:37,951
shetland in how creek drive

1815
00:57:37,951 --> 00:57:38,584
gave them an overview of their

1816
00:57:38,584 --> 00:57:40,984
existing conditions and then

1817
00:57:41,855 --> 00:57:42,472
asked for their input on an

1818
00:57:42,472 --> 00:57:44,872
approach to renovate these

1819
00:57:45,542 --> 00:57:45,788
these monument features and

1820
00:57:45,788 --> 00:57:46,610
medians.

1821
00:57:46,610 --> 00:57:49,780
So the input that we received

1822
00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:50,614
from their board was they'd

1823
00:57:50,614 --> 00:57:52,867
like to see a phased approach

1824
00:57:52,867 --> 00:57:55,267
of about 25% replacement per

1825
00:57:55,836 --> 00:57:58,722
year for the next four years.

1826
00:57:58,722 --> 00:58:02,322
So with that, this budget for

1827
00:58:02,509 --> 00:58:03,430
20 does reflect re re re re

1828
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:03,660
landscaping about five of the

1829
00:58:03,660 --> 00:58:06,600
medians down winter springs

1830
00:58:06,946 --> 00:58:07,397
boulevard and then about two of

1831
00:58:07,397 --> 00:58:09,797
the monument features going

1832
00:58:10,634 --> 00:58:10,901
into the community at those

1833
00:58:10,901 --> 00:58:12,901
specific locations.

1834
00:58:14,738 --> 00:58:15,272
In addition to the landscaping

1835
00:58:15,272 --> 00:58:17,672
enhancements there are some

1836
00:58:18,825 --> 00:58:19,593
additional capital costs that

1837
00:58:19,593 --> 00:58:22,963
are going to be due for the

1838
00:58:22,963 --> 00:58:23,513
make sure we get this one right

1839
00:58:23,513 --> 00:58:26,513
the north fountain that has

1840
00:58:26,567 --> 00:58:27,334
some other potential upgrades

1841
00:58:27,334 --> 00:58:29,553
that need to happen in order to

1842
00:58:29,553 --> 00:58:30,287
preserve the long term

1843
00:58:30,287 --> 00:58:32,687
sustainability of that water

1844
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:34,574
feature.

1845
00:58:34,574 --> 00:58:37,574
Moving on to oak forest

1846
00:58:37,945 --> 00:58:38,362
currently the oak force

1847
00:58:38,362 --> 00:58:40,362
assessment district, their

1848
00:58:42,490 --> 00:58:42,483
revenues seem to be sufficient

1849
00:58:42,483 --> 00:58:44,883
for the operating costs

1850
00:58:45,736 --> 00:58:46,387
associated with maintaining the

1851
00:58:46,387 --> 00:58:47,120
wall as well as their landscape

1852
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,756
features at some of those

1853
00:58:49,756 --> 00:58:50,424
entrances.

1854
00:58:50,424 --> 00:58:53,424
But we are nevertheless going

1855
00:58:53,694 --> 00:58:54,428
to have their fees evaluated

1856
00:58:54,428 --> 00:58:55,162
through the rate study that we

1857
00:58:55,162 --> 00:58:56,997
have ongoing right now through

1858
00:58:56,997 --> 00:58:57,648
mbes.

1859
00:58:57,648 --> 00:59:00,648
And then lastly is tuscola

1860
00:59:00,717 --> 00:59:01,568
three also known as hawkes

1861
00:59:01,568 --> 00:59:04,822
reserve as part of the rate

1862
00:59:04,822 --> 00:59:05,238
study which would identify

1863
00:59:05,238 --> 00:59:07,638
potential funding needed for

1864
00:59:08,709 --> 00:59:09,343
some additional repairs needed

1865
00:59:09,343 --> 00:59:09,493
along some portions of the

1866
00:59:09,493 --> 00:59:11,412
wall.

1867
00:59:11,412 --> 00:59:11,862
And one thing that I think is

1868
00:59:11,862 --> 00:59:14,262
important to point out

1869
00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:15,566
specifically as it pertains to

1870
00:59:15,566 --> 00:59:18,566
hawkes reserve is that they

1871
00:59:18,819 --> 00:59:19,270
they do have their ongoing

1872
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:21,670
maintenance fund that their

1873
00:59:22,957 --> 00:59:23,491
fees paid for, but they do also

1874
00:59:23,491 --> 00:59:26,491
have a outstanding loan that

1875
00:59:26,861 --> 00:59:27,411
they're still paying back to

1876
00:59:27,411 --> 00:59:30,147
the city's general fund that

1877
00:59:30,147 --> 00:59:30,798
was issued upon the creation of

1878
00:59:30,798 --> 00:59:31,549
the district I believe it was

1879
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:33,949
in 2015 that they're still

1880
00:59:34,301 --> 00:59:37,301
repaying back the balance of

1881
00:59:38,171 --> 00:59:38,622
that loan that was issued from

1882
00:59:38,622 --> 00:59:41,220
the city's general fund.

1883
00:59:41,292 --> 00:59:44,892
So with that, that concludes my

1884
00:59:45,362 --> 00:59:48,362
summary and any questions we'll

1885
00:59:49,217 --> 00:59:49,651
keep moving on here.

1886
00:59:49,651 --> 00:59:51,651
>> that's everybody.

1887
00:59:53,121 --> 00:59:53,871
Yes, mayor, that's everybody.

1888
00:59:53,871 --> 00:59:56,871
We're happy to entertain any

1889
00:59:57,458 --> 00:59:58,109
questions and of a couple of

1890
00:59:58,109 --> 01:00:01,579
other just brief updates that I

1891
01:00:01,579 --> 01:00:02,529
can provide if the time allows

1892
01:00:02,529 --> 01:00:04,682
for our bill and make sure the

1893
01:00:04,682 --> 01:00:07,682
commission and of those that

1894
01:00:07,952 --> 01:00:08,153
have questions, why not awesome

1895
01:00:08,153 --> 01:00:09,320
.

1896
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,373
If I can I'll just start with I

1897
01:00:12,373 --> 01:00:12,590
presented christian some

1898
01:00:12,590 --> 01:00:14,590
documentation.

1899
01:00:16,277 --> 01:00:17,270
>> I'd like it for the record.

1900
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:19,580
i think it's something really

1901
01:00:19,580 --> 01:00:20,114
important for residents to

1902
01:00:20,114 --> 01:00:20,748
understand and I don't know

1903
01:00:20,748 --> 01:00:23,148
that even the directors

1904
01:00:23,401 --> 01:00:24,340
understand.

1905
01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:26,340
>> maybe you do.

1906
01:00:27,405 --> 01:00:28,550
I did research the nine I

1907
01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:31,242
stopped at nine because I just

1908
01:00:31,242 --> 01:00:31,876
was finished and this is really

1909
01:00:31,876 --> 01:00:34,876
important for everyone to know.

1910
01:00:35,163 --> 01:00:38,300
The nine counties that make up

1911
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:38,916
central florida, there are 95

1912
01:00:38,916 --> 01:00:40,916
municipal counties they

1913
01:00:48,259 --> 01:00:48,793
represent 5,618,000 people with

1914
01:00:48,793 --> 01:00:51,193
a very minor caveat.

1915
01:00:52,847 --> 01:00:55,247
>> winters springs has the

1916
01:00:56,517 --> 01:00:57,351
lowest military.

1917
01:00:57,351 --> 01:00:59,751
>> the only exception is

1918
01:01:02,223 --> 01:01:02,457
municipal cities with less than

1919
01:01:02,457 --> 01:01:03,308
500 residents.

1920
01:01:03,308 --> 01:01:06,344
And they also don't have a

1921
01:01:06,344 --> 01:01:08,344
police department.

1922
01:01:10,448 --> 01:01:14,480
At one point, lake mary lake

1923
01:01:14,419 --> 01:01:15,369
mary actually is the lowest

1924
01:01:15,369 --> 01:01:18,856
lake mary when you tie in their

1925
01:01:18,856 --> 01:01:19,190
fire fees, they park fees and

1926
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:21,190
their millage rate.

1927
01:01:21,843 --> 01:01:22,590
They are the lowest in nine

1928
01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:24,590
counties.

1929
01:01:25,630 --> 01:01:26,800
Folks, I like to say thank you

1930
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,480
and congratulations for the

1931
01:01:29,651 --> 01:01:30,284
work that you've done.

1932
01:01:30,284 --> 01:01:32,653
I think that this commission

1933
01:01:32,653 --> 01:01:36,507
for a long time has done a

1934
01:01:36,507 --> 01:01:38,907
phenomenal job of doing

1935
01:01:39,561 --> 01:01:41,961
incredible work with little

1936
01:01:43,531 --> 01:01:43,965
work with little money and

1937
01:01:43,965 --> 01:01:46,365
effectively we're doing the

1938
01:01:47,436 --> 01:01:48,270
right thing by our residents

1939
01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:51,270
that we're doing this while

1940
01:01:51,707 --> 01:01:51,990
moving forward massive

1941
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:52,474
infrastructure issues,

1942
01:01:52,474 --> 01:01:54,874
improving our drinking water,

1943
01:01:56,628 --> 01:01:57,279
stormwater issues, wastewater.

1944
01:01:57,279 --> 01:01:59,679
We're supporting our police

1945
01:01:59,814 --> 01:02:02,214
department and staff, giving

1946
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,320
them much deserved raises.

1947
01:02:08,707 --> 01:02:09,341
I'm with the new addition of

1948
01:02:09,341 --> 01:02:12,341
new directors, the new people

1949
01:02:13,110 --> 01:02:13,345
that have come on and those

1950
01:02:13,345 --> 01:02:14,630
that are veterans.

1951
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:16,463
Brian and chief specifically

1952
01:02:16,649 --> 01:02:17,332
and I'll let you kind of come

1953
01:02:17,332 --> 01:02:19,868
back around but you're in a new

1954
01:02:19,868 --> 01:02:20,835
role, a new city manager.

1955
01:02:20,835 --> 01:02:23,889
This city is no longer in a

1956
01:02:23,889 --> 01:02:24,656
reactionary mode.

1957
01:02:24,656 --> 01:02:27,909
I believe that we are starting

1958
01:02:27,909 --> 01:02:28,577
to move forward with plans like

1959
01:02:28,577 --> 01:02:31,630
we were talking about in the

1960
01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:32,564
replacement of police cars and

1961
01:02:32,564 --> 01:02:34,316
this systematic way instead of

1962
01:02:34,316 --> 01:02:35,166
letting 15 cars get to be ten

1963
01:02:35,166 --> 01:02:38,370
years old and we're starting to

1964
01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:40,437
react setting we're setting

1965
01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:42,508
ourselves up to do things

1966
01:02:42,508 --> 01:02:44,908
moving forward that are

1967
01:02:46,178 --> 01:02:47,450
systematic, well-thought out

1968
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:49,498
and they're going to keep us at

1969
01:02:49,498 --> 01:02:53,980
the point that the spear point

1970
01:02:53,686 --> 01:02:56,922
at doing a lot in a fiscally

1971
01:02:56,922 --> 01:02:57,673
responsible way.

1972
01:02:57,673 --> 01:03:00,730
>> bottom line for the

1973
01:03:00,141 --> 01:03:00,575
residents of winter springs, we

1974
01:03:00,575 --> 01:03:02,975
are doing our job.

1975
01:03:04,563 --> 01:03:09,151
We are at the tip of the spear.

1976
01:03:09,151 --> 01:03:09,785
Any nonsense about us

1977
01:03:09,785 --> 01:03:12,237
overspending or not doing the

1978
01:03:12,237 --> 01:03:12,972
right thing financially to our

1979
01:03:12,972 --> 01:03:15,972
residents, we should be the

1980
01:03:16,358 --> 01:03:17,125
example for the state.

1981
01:03:17,125 --> 01:03:20,620
>> I'd be real curious with

1982
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:23,620
time I went through nine

1983
01:03:23,115 --> 01:03:23,766
counties, the 95 municipalities

1984
01:03:23,766 --> 01:03:24,283
going through one at a time

1985
01:03:24,283 --> 01:03:26,283
populations and police

1986
01:03:27,469 --> 01:03:28,203
departments and looking at

1987
01:03:28,203 --> 01:03:31,203
their millage rates and they

1988
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,224
continue.

1989
01:03:32,224 --> 01:03:35,411
We are at the tip of the spear.

1990
01:03:35,411 --> 01:03:36,280
We're doing the right thing and

1991
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,195
I think we should all be proud

1992
01:03:36,195 --> 01:03:38,195
of it.

1993
01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:39,282
With that, I'll open the floor

1994
01:03:39,282 --> 01:03:39,649
.

1995
01:03:39,649 --> 01:03:41,649
>> congratulations.

1996
01:03:42,885 --> 01:03:43,236
And who would like to go first

1997
01:03:43,236 --> 01:03:43,969
with the commissioners?

1998
01:03:43,969 --> 01:03:45,404
And you're looking this way.

1999
01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:47,404
I'll go first.

2000
01:03:48,157 --> 01:03:48,374
just one question for each

2001
01:03:48,374 --> 01:03:49,225
cleat.

2002
01:03:49,225 --> 01:03:49,408
You said there was 56 slip

2003
01:03:49,408 --> 01:03:51,408
stations.

2004
01:03:52,612 --> 01:03:53,128
Is that what you said?

2005
01:03:53,128 --> 01:03:55,128
57 was open.

2006
01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:59,980
How many of those live stations

2007
01:03:59,185 --> 01:04:00,252
are in need of a generator or

2008
01:04:00,252 --> 01:04:03,489
do you know off hand or you can

2009
01:04:03,489 --> 01:04:04,357
get back to me?

2010
01:04:04,357 --> 01:04:07,827
Yeah, I'm just curious to to

2011
01:04:07,827 --> 01:04:08,494
know when we can get them at

2012
01:04:08,494 --> 01:04:10,546
every live station and what the

2013
01:04:10,546 --> 01:04:10,863
budget might be and how long

2014
01:04:10,863 --> 01:04:12,863
that might take.

2015
01:04:14,533 --> 01:04:15,167
The budget does include the

2016
01:04:15,167 --> 01:04:17,567
budget does include a

2017
01:04:18,721 --> 01:04:21,121
replacement plan for backup

2018
01:04:22,808 --> 01:04:23,142
pumps and generators on all

2019
01:04:23,142 --> 01:04:23,793
those live stations.

2020
01:04:23,793 --> 01:04:26,746
Grace as starting with the

2021
01:04:26,746 --> 01:04:29,746
master course lifts the main

2022
01:04:30,215 --> 01:04:30,966
substations were good good that

2023
01:04:30,966 --> 01:04:31,534
was my only question for you.

2024
01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:31,750
It's over at least the next

2025
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:31,985
five years.

2026
01:04:31,985 --> 01:04:33,985
Right?

2027
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:36,620
Okay, great.

2028
01:04:37,674 --> 01:04:37,907
Brian, you you mentioned a

2029
01:04:37,907 --> 01:04:38,340
lacrosse wall.

2030
01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:38,774
>> yes, sir.

2031
01:04:38,774 --> 01:04:40,774
What is that?

2032
01:04:41,644 --> 01:04:42,395
It's a rebound wall.

2033
01:04:42,395 --> 01:04:45,866
So it's it's a stationary wall,

2034
01:04:45,866 --> 01:04:46,416
cinder block with a footer

2035
01:04:46,416 --> 01:04:49,416
that's a permanent fixture at

2036
01:04:49,485 --> 01:04:50,220
the park, potentially where

2037
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:53,220
we'll cross players or soccer

2038
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:54,524
players I suppose could go and

2039
01:04:54,524 --> 01:04:56,924
practice throwing and catching

2040
01:04:57,577 --> 01:04:58,227
lacrosse.

2041
01:04:58,227 --> 01:04:58,661
And you know, it's basically

2042
01:04:58,661 --> 01:05:01,610
like a rebound wall.

2043
01:05:01,414 --> 01:05:03,866
So I don't know if you

2044
01:05:03,866 --> 01:05:04,634
previously remember about ten

2045
01:05:04,634 --> 01:05:07,687
years ago at trotwood we had a

2046
01:05:07,687 --> 01:05:08,221
outdoor racquetball court that

2047
01:05:08,221 --> 01:05:10,573
was behind the tennis courts

2048
01:05:10,573 --> 01:05:13,573
that essentially was in failing

2049
01:05:14,427 --> 01:05:14,744
condition that basically was

2050
01:05:14,744 --> 01:05:15,511
torn down.

2051
01:05:15,511 --> 01:05:18,681
And the pam carroll pavilion is

2052
01:05:18,681 --> 01:05:19,532
now located its place.

2053
01:05:19,532 --> 01:05:20,660
So one of the things some of

2054
01:05:20,660 --> 01:05:22,200
the community members mentioned

2055
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,752
when that feature was removed

2056
01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:26,223
was that some of the cross

2057
01:05:26,223 --> 01:05:26,773
players use that as a rebound

2058
01:05:26,773 --> 01:05:29,773
wall to go practice lacrosse,

2059
01:05:30,944 --> 01:05:31,511
which ultimately does us a

2060
01:05:31,511 --> 01:05:32,129
favor if they're going out to

2061
01:05:32,129 --> 01:05:32,862
one of the parks and doing that

2062
01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:35,332
because that means they're not

2063
01:05:35,332 --> 01:05:35,799
throwing it up against the side

2064
01:05:35,799 --> 01:05:37,550
of one of our buildings.

2065
01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:38,680
>> and how long has that been

2066
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,680
in the works?

2067
01:05:41,954 --> 01:05:42,289
>> well, MR. Gallo is sitting

2068
01:05:42,289 --> 01:05:43,156
in the audience.

2069
01:05:43,156 --> 01:05:46,243
I think he's probably been in

2070
01:05:46,243 --> 01:05:49,843
my ear for at least 5 to 10

2071
01:05:49,912 --> 01:05:50,464
years, but it's been brought up

2072
01:05:50,464 --> 01:05:53,464
recently as recently as last

2073
01:05:53,633 --> 01:05:53,950
year at the parks and rec

2074
01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:54,818
advisory committee.

2075
01:05:54,818 --> 01:05:58,880
I only I bring that up because

2076
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:58,638
I'm I was wondering about the

2077
01:05:58,638 --> 01:06:00,890
lights for the baseball field

2078
01:06:00,890 --> 01:06:01,124
so I know that's a big thing.

2079
01:06:01,124 --> 01:06:03,124
Correct?

2080
01:06:04,811 --> 01:06:05,562
You know, I didn't know or do

2081
01:06:05,562 --> 01:06:08,615
we know if that should take

2082
01:06:08,615 --> 01:06:09,583
precedence over a lacrosse wall

2083
01:06:09,583 --> 01:06:13,153
or can we get you know, in the

2084
01:06:13,153 --> 01:06:13,926
process of both because I know

2085
01:06:13,926 --> 01:06:14,710
helping out babe ruth is a big

2086
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:14,238
deal.

2087
01:06:14,238 --> 01:06:16,238
Right.

2088
01:06:16,523 --> 01:06:16,707
And it means a lot to the

2089
01:06:16,707 --> 01:06:18,707
community.

2090
01:06:20,427 --> 01:06:20,744
So a little bit of context to

2091
01:06:20,744 --> 01:06:22,744
that conversation.

2092
01:06:23,297 --> 01:06:23,847
So there's been two different

2093
01:06:23,847 --> 01:06:26,247
conversations that pertains to

2094
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:27,255
lights specifically at central

2095
01:06:27,255 --> 01:06:28,151
wins.

2096
01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:30,403
The first conversation was on a

2097
01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:33,403
retrofit led conversion of the

2098
01:06:34,580 --> 01:06:34,491
existing infrastructure which

2099
01:06:34,491 --> 01:06:35,342
ultimately the commission chose

2100
01:06:35,342 --> 01:06:38,512
not to move forward with this

2101
01:06:38,512 --> 01:06:38,696
budget year that we're in

2102
01:06:38,696 --> 01:06:40,696
currently.

2103
01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:42,733
And then shortly after that

2104
01:06:42,733 --> 01:06:45,803
that topic there was a group

2105
01:06:45,803 --> 01:06:46,536
from within the community that

2106
01:06:46,536 --> 01:06:49,536
mentioned the need to add

2107
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:50,657
additional lights on to the

2108
01:06:50,657 --> 01:06:53,900
unlit practice fields on the

2109
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:53,233
west side of central one's park

2110
01:06:53,233 --> 01:06:53,977
.

2111
01:06:53,977 --> 01:06:54,411
What I'd say about both of

2112
01:06:54,411 --> 01:06:54,628
those initiatives is two

2113
01:06:54,628 --> 01:06:56,628
things.

2114
01:06:57,275 --> 01:06:57,815
One.

2115
01:06:57,815 --> 01:07:00,215
Parked impact fees definitively

2116
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:01,585
could not find retrofitting

2117
01:07:01,585 --> 01:07:03,985
existing lights because you're

2118
01:07:05,172 --> 01:07:05,389
it's not an acceptable use of

2119
01:07:05,389 --> 01:07:05,823
those funds.

2120
01:07:05,823 --> 01:07:07,823
Theoretically parking impact

2121
01:07:09,393 --> 01:07:10,600
fees could be used or at least

2122
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,514
used in portion to find new

2123
01:07:13,514 --> 01:07:14,247
lights to expand the capability

2124
01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:16,406
of a recreational facility due

2125
01:07:16,406 --> 01:07:17,451
to an increase in growth.

2126
01:07:17,451 --> 01:07:20,520
But I would say that both of

2127
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,520
those initiatives at least are

2128
01:07:23,974 --> 01:07:24,709
significantly more expensive

2129
01:07:24,709 --> 01:07:24,892
than the construction of a

2130
01:07:24,892 --> 01:07:26,892
crosswalk.

2131
01:07:28,412 --> 01:07:28,946
Beyond that, I think what might

2132
01:07:28,946 --> 01:07:31,198
be important for the commission

2133
01:07:31,198 --> 01:07:31,632
to consider in the future is

2134
01:07:31,632 --> 01:07:32,366
obviously the strategic plan

2135
01:07:32,366 --> 01:07:35,366
for central winds park was

2136
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:38,489
recently approved I think in

2137
01:07:38,489 --> 01:07:39,139
DECEMBER of 24 or our central

2138
01:07:39,139 --> 01:07:42,139
winds master plan I'm sorry,

2139
01:07:42,727 --> 01:07:43,440
which included a number of of

2140
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,440
really fascinating

2141
01:07:45,584 --> 01:07:45,770
possibilities for for central

2142
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:46,548
winds.

2143
01:07:46,548 --> 01:07:49,399
But beyond that is the

2144
01:07:49,399 --> 01:07:49,734
commission probably should

2145
01:07:49,734 --> 01:07:51,734
provide some strategic

2146
01:07:53,204 --> 01:07:53,854
direction to the city manager

2147
01:07:53,854 --> 01:07:54,388
and staff on the implementation

2148
01:07:54,388 --> 01:07:57,388
of some of those improvements

2149
01:07:57,641 --> 01:07:58,292
as it pertains to what your

2150
01:07:58,292 --> 01:08:01,292
priorities are as a commission

2151
01:08:01,645 --> 01:08:02,296
and specifically for central

2152
01:08:02,296 --> 01:08:04,148
wins as it pertains to either

2153
01:08:04,148 --> 01:08:04,882
retrofitting lights, adding new

2154
01:08:04,882 --> 01:08:05,299
lights, adding new pavilions,

2155
01:08:05,299 --> 01:08:07,299
building new playgrounds,

2156
01:08:08,569 --> 01:08:09,186
boardwalks and events center

2157
01:08:09,186 --> 01:08:11,586
because without that direction

2158
01:08:12,773 --> 01:08:15,773
you know, the staff really

2159
01:08:16,327 --> 01:08:16,977
shouldn't be trying to

2160
01:08:16,977 --> 01:08:19,300
prioritize which projects you

2161
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:19,680
all want to see done first out

2162
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,750
there at central wins and then

2163
01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:23,467
what I'd say beyond that is

2164
01:08:23,467 --> 01:08:26,467
there's a lot of discussion

2165
01:08:26,937 --> 01:08:27,705
about grant funding through

2166
01:08:27,705 --> 01:08:31,920
different sources for an app as

2167
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,345
a is a is a grant that's passed

2168
01:08:34,345 --> 01:08:36,745
through dep florida recreation

2169
01:08:37,581 --> 01:08:38,233
development assistant program.

2170
01:08:38,233 --> 01:08:38,983
We we could position ourselves

2171
01:08:38,983 --> 01:08:41,983
very well to receive those

2172
01:08:42,370 --> 01:08:42,787
funds but it is absolutely

2173
01:08:42,787 --> 01:08:45,787
paramount that anything that we

2174
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,491
apply for through that program

2175
01:08:46,491 --> 01:08:49,744
and specifically it has to be

2176
01:08:49,744 --> 01:08:50,277
in our comprehensive plan and

2177
01:08:50,277 --> 01:08:52,730
the recreation and open space

2178
01:08:52,730 --> 01:08:53,381
element specifically because if

2179
01:08:53,381 --> 01:08:53,832
it's not, they are going to

2180
01:08:53,832 --> 01:08:53,998
probably disqualify you pretty

2181
01:08:53,998 --> 01:08:55,998
quickly.

2182
01:08:57,101 --> 01:08:57,836
They don't want one off pet

2183
01:08:57,836 --> 01:09:00,836
projects flavor of the week

2184
01:09:00,906 --> 01:09:01,423
projects entities applying for

2185
01:09:01,423 --> 01:09:03,823
grant funding through those

2186
01:09:04,993 --> 01:09:05,977
sources whether it be further

2187
01:09:05,977 --> 01:09:08,730
out or l w c f which is the

2188
01:09:08,730 --> 01:09:09,497
land water conservation fund.

2189
01:09:09,497 --> 01:09:11,433
They want to know that it's

2190
01:09:11,433 --> 01:09:12,167
part of your adopted

2191
01:09:12,167 --> 01:09:15,167
comprehensive plan as a city

2192
01:09:15,637 --> 01:09:16,371
and that it's also probably

2193
01:09:16,371 --> 01:09:19,400
within a strategic plan that is

2194
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:19,691
a little bit more granular than

2195
01:09:19,691 --> 01:09:22,861
just your comp plan if that

2196
01:09:22,861 --> 01:09:23,528
makes sense or maybe how it can

2197
01:09:23,528 --> 01:09:24,596
get us a sponsor like she was.

2198
01:09:24,596 --> 01:09:26,831
>> she did so well with the

2199
01:09:26,831 --> 01:09:27,716
pickleball court sponsor.

2200
01:09:27,716 --> 01:09:30,869
>> you know, I mean there the

2201
01:09:30,869 --> 01:09:31,419
conversation as it pertains in

2202
01:09:31,419 --> 01:09:34,419
all seriousness to to potential

2203
01:09:34,873 --> 01:09:35,640
private grant funding.

2204
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,576
I will tell you there are

2205
01:09:38,576 --> 01:09:39,627
conversations that we are

2206
01:09:39,627 --> 01:09:42,897
having right now and if it's a

2207
01:09:42,897 --> 01:09:43,247
combination of multiple

2208
01:09:43,247 --> 01:09:44,165
different funding mechanisms

2209
01:09:44,165 --> 01:09:47,335
that MAY be able to fund a

2210
01:09:47,335 --> 01:09:47,986
major initiative such as new

2211
01:09:47,986 --> 01:09:49,955
lights out at central wins, I

2212
01:09:49,955 --> 01:09:50,388
will I will tell you we are

2213
01:09:50,388 --> 01:09:52,788
looking at those opportunities

2214
01:09:54,580 --> 01:09:54,709
as well, which sometimes come

2215
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:55,444
with frankly a lot less red

2216
01:09:55,444 --> 01:09:58,113
tape than we're receiving money

2217
01:09:58,113 --> 01:09:58,546
from the state or potentially

2218
01:09:58,546 --> 01:10:00,946
looking at multiple sources.

2219
01:10:01,933 --> 01:10:02,150
So it's great to hear.

2220
01:10:02,150 --> 01:10:02,800
Sure.

2221
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,470
Babe ruth will be happy.

2222
01:10:05,470 --> 01:10:05,704
All right, chief, save the best

2223
01:10:05,704 --> 01:10:07,704
for last.

2224
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:09,725
But you and I are well aware of

2225
01:10:09,725 --> 01:10:12,725
retention and my my biggest

2226
01:10:13,940 --> 01:10:16,940
thing is keeping our officers.

2227
01:10:17,820 --> 01:10:19,934
So what needs do you have as

2228
01:10:19,934 --> 01:10:20,702
far as retention is concerned?

2229
01:10:20,702 --> 01:10:23,702
You know, bringing new officers

2230
01:10:24,156 --> 01:10:24,706
and keeping them here, you

2231
01:10:24,706 --> 01:10:27,706
know, trying to really keep

2232
01:10:28,277 --> 01:10:28,777
them after training because a

2233
01:10:28,777 --> 01:10:28,961
lot of them leave after

2234
01:10:28,961 --> 01:10:29,294
training.

2235
01:10:29,294 --> 01:10:30,128
We lose money there.

2236
01:10:30,128 --> 01:10:32,280
A lot of people don't

2237
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,280
understand the areas that we

2238
01:10:36,168 --> 01:10:36,351
lose pension, salary, uniforms,

2239
01:10:36,351 --> 01:10:37,152
training.

2240
01:10:37,152 --> 01:10:40,189
So what do you what do you

2241
01:10:40,189 --> 01:10:40,855
think about needs?

2242
01:10:40,855 --> 01:10:41,390
>> that's a great question.

2243
01:10:41,390 --> 01:10:43,790
Thank you for that.

2244
01:10:44,677 --> 01:10:45,110
You know, a lot of the

2245
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:47,510
recruitment and retention goes

2246
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:51,984
back to culture as well.

2247
01:10:51,984 --> 01:10:52,617
>> I think if you offer a good

2248
01:10:52,617 --> 01:10:55,170
working environment and a

2249
01:10:55,387 --> 01:10:55,821
culture that people want to

2250
01:10:55,821 --> 01:10:58,173
support, then that helps.

2251
01:10:58,173 --> 01:10:58,723
We will always have the people

2252
01:10:58,723 --> 01:11:01,723
that will leave for financial

2253
01:11:02,394 --> 01:11:04,980
gain when they bring change.

2254
01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:05,614
These are offering ten, 15,

2255
01:11:05,614 --> 01:11:06,165
$20,000 incentives just to sign

2256
01:11:06,165 --> 01:11:06,898
a three year commitment that's

2257
01:11:06,898 --> 01:11:09,552
very hard or difficult to

2258
01:11:09,552 --> 01:11:12,552
compete with some of the

2259
01:11:13,205 --> 01:11:15,730
sheriff's departments around

2260
01:11:15,730 --> 01:11:15,390
the state are offering up to a

2261
01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:17,390
$70,000 incentive.

2262
01:11:19,278 --> 01:11:19,929
That's just unheard of and it's

2263
01:11:19,929 --> 01:11:20,796
not something that will be able

2264
01:11:20,796 --> 01:11:23,665
to compete with as far as our

2265
01:11:23,665 --> 01:11:23,816
salaries go, we're in the right

2266
01:11:23,816 --> 01:11:24,166
place.

2267
01:11:24,166 --> 01:11:25,234
We made it.

2268
01:11:25,234 --> 01:11:27,687
We made a move at the right

2269
01:11:27,687 --> 01:11:31,287
time and the all the other

2270
01:11:31,374 --> 01:11:32,141
cities have followed now we do

2271
01:11:32,141 --> 01:11:34,293
have a little bit of work to

2272
01:11:34,293 --> 01:11:34,827
do, I think and I think MR.

2273
01:11:34,827 --> 01:11:37,827
Manager will speak to this

2274
01:11:38,197 --> 01:11:38,831
maybe tonight with pension

2275
01:11:38,831 --> 01:11:39,565
benefits, but we're moving in

2276
01:11:39,565 --> 01:11:42,565
the right direction and that

2277
01:11:42,868 --> 01:11:43,636
would be the last thing that I

2278
01:11:43,636 --> 01:11:45,604
could say that that we need to

2279
01:11:45,604 --> 01:11:46,339
do or that I would like to see

2280
01:11:46,339 --> 01:11:49,339
happen to help maintain that

2281
01:11:52,228 --> 01:11:52,609
recruitment or retention issue

2282
01:11:52,609 --> 01:11:53,478
.

2283
01:11:53,478 --> 01:11:56,966
But there's some ideas that I

2284
01:11:56,966 --> 01:11:57,617
have that you know, but we

2285
01:11:57,617 --> 01:11:59,435
could talk about that in the

2286
01:11:59,435 --> 01:11:59,669
future as well.

2287
01:11:59,669 --> 01:12:01,669
Great.

2288
01:12:06,608 --> 01:12:07,476
Who would like to go next one?

2289
01:12:07,476 --> 01:12:10,529
I know we all had very thorough

2290
01:12:10,529 --> 01:12:10,997
meetings and had a chance to

2291
01:12:10,997 --> 01:12:11,931
talk to each independently.

2292
01:12:11,931 --> 01:12:15,218
Maybe I could just simply ask

2293
01:12:15,218 --> 01:12:15,868
is it just an open question

2294
01:12:15,868 --> 01:12:18,404
they're putting I don't want to

2295
01:12:18,404 --> 01:12:19,710
put you on the spot.

2296
01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:19,806
Is there anyone in their

2297
01:12:19,806 --> 01:12:22,806
department that feels that this

2298
01:12:22,858 --> 01:12:25,611
project falls short in any

2299
01:12:25,611 --> 01:12:26,279
particular way?

2300
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:26,713
is there something that you

2301
01:12:26,713 --> 01:12:29,113
really felt was important?

2302
01:12:29,982 --> 01:12:30,433
And I know that's loaded and I

2303
01:12:30,433 --> 01:12:30,867
apologize I'll go personally.

2304
01:12:30,867 --> 01:12:32,867
>> yeah, right.

2305
01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:34,687
That you wanted done and yeah

2306
01:12:34,687 --> 01:12:38,273
they're trying to get a patrol

2307
01:12:38,273 --> 01:12:38,424
boat she want to prove it above

2308
01:12:38,424 --> 01:12:40,424
right?

2309
01:12:41,477 --> 01:12:41,911
>> yeah yeah she wants a boat.

2310
01:12:41,911 --> 01:12:42,128
>> yeah right.

2311
01:12:42,128 --> 01:12:44,128
Thanks.

2312
01:12:44,897 --> 01:12:45,648
I'll take that as you're happy

2313
01:12:45,648 --> 01:12:48,701
with the budget as well and

2314
01:12:48,701 --> 01:12:48,918
your department?

2315
01:12:48,918 --> 01:12:49,352
Yeah.

2316
01:12:49,352 --> 01:12:51,352
Nobody's saying anything.

2317
01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:53,456
Thanks, deputy mayor.

2318
01:12:53,456 --> 01:12:53,789
>> in between.

2319
01:12:53,789 --> 01:12:55,789
Oh, look.

2320
01:12:55,824 --> 01:12:56,142
Doing okay?

2321
01:12:56,142 --> 01:12:58,142
>> yeah.

2322
01:12:59,546 --> 01:13:00,279
I have a question on on several

2323
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:03,750
of them but I'll use park

2324
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:04,500
impact 153 as a example so

2325
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:07,500
sources mean income correct and

2326
01:13:07,854 --> 01:13:08,700
applications mean expenses.

2327
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:09,905
Correct.

2328
01:13:09,905 --> 01:13:10,439
So sources we have 20,000 for

2329
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,839
park impacts and applications.

2330
01:13:14,110 --> 01:13:16,110
We have 200,000.

2331
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,230
So that's a difference of

2332
01:13:17,230 --> 01:13:18,364
180,000 that will pull from the

2333
01:13:18,364 --> 01:13:21,964
general fund and I don't know

2334
01:13:22,835 --> 01:13:23,603
please clarify them.

2335
01:13:23,603 --> 01:13:24,437
>> that's going to be coming

2336
01:13:24,437 --> 01:13:27,423
from the fund balance of that

2337
01:13:27,423 --> 01:13:27,974
fund and that's how it is for

2338
01:13:27,974 --> 01:13:29,592
all these others as well.

2339
01:13:29,592 --> 01:13:30,260
Correct.

2340
01:13:30,260 --> 01:13:30,476
>> thank you for that

2341
01:13:30,476 --> 01:13:32,476
clarification.

2342
01:13:37,583 --> 01:13:38,518
Now why is only 20,000 dollars

2343
01:13:38,518 --> 01:13:41,518
anticipated as as income as

2344
01:13:46,843 --> 01:13:47,777
sources for 2026 and so so for

2345
01:13:47,777 --> 01:13:51,164
impact fees we only we do not

2346
01:13:51,164 --> 01:13:51,498
budget those in advance until

2347
01:13:51,498 --> 01:13:53,498
we receive them.

2348
01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:54,784
So the $20,000 is from the

2349
01:13:54,784 --> 01:13:57,784
investments that we expect to

2350
01:13:58,138 --> 01:13:58,538
receive return on the amount

2351
01:13:58,538 --> 01:13:58,988
that's essentially in our

2352
01:13:58,988 --> 01:13:59,323
savings account at the moment.

2353
01:13:59,323 --> 01:14:00,941
>> wonderful.

2354
01:14:00,941 --> 01:14:02,941
Thank you.

2355
01:14:04,811 --> 01:14:06,811
That's clarification.

2356
01:14:08,598 --> 01:14:09,132
>> and in addition, can you

2357
01:14:09,132 --> 01:14:11,532
confirm other government funds?

2358
01:14:11,985 --> 01:14:14,985
>> what exactly that means is

2359
01:14:15,755 --> 01:14:16,172
that debt service and

2360
01:14:16,172 --> 01:14:16,506
government sharing programs

2361
01:14:16,506 --> 01:14:18,506
kind of thing.

2362
01:14:19,292 --> 01:14:19,610
>> so it's basically all of the

2363
01:14:19,610 --> 01:14:20,600
other governmental funds

2364
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,460
outside of general fund.

2365
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:23,964
So general fund is where your

2366
01:14:23,964 --> 01:14:26,364
ad valorem lives other

2367
01:14:27,417 --> 01:14:27,968
governmental funds would be a

2368
01:14:27,968 --> 01:14:30,968
combination of your impact fee

2369
01:14:31,370 --> 01:14:31,804
funds those such as arpa where

2370
01:14:31,804 --> 01:14:32,122
we have a special kind of one

2371
01:14:32,122 --> 01:14:34,122
time revenue source.

2372
01:14:35,392 --> 01:14:38,245
The debt service funds capital

2373
01:14:38,245 --> 01:14:40,645
projects funds anything outside

2374
01:14:43,316 --> 01:14:44,852
of enterprise funds that make

2375
01:14:44,852 --> 01:14:45,510
up general government services

2376
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:47,510
.

2377
01:14:48,922 --> 01:14:50,922
Thank you.

2378
01:14:56,647 --> 01:14:56,963
I'm good and honor deputy.

2379
01:14:56,963 --> 01:14:57,614
All right.

2380
01:14:57,614 --> 01:15:00,584
One thing to you, mayor.

2381
01:15:00,584 --> 01:15:03,454
You were mentioning every city

2382
01:15:03,454 --> 01:15:03,787
but lake mary like mary to me

2383
01:15:03,787 --> 01:15:05,787
is very unique.

2384
01:15:07,358 --> 01:15:09,393
Even altamont somewhat unique.

2385
01:15:09,393 --> 01:15:09,826
But there is a 6535 commercial

2386
01:15:09,826 --> 01:15:12,226
versus residential and they've

2387
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:14,331
got significant commercial so

2388
01:15:14,331 --> 01:15:16,700
they get away with something we

2389
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:17,418
don't and 4,040% of the

2390
01:15:17,418 --> 01:15:20,418
population that we have yeah

2391
01:15:20,471 --> 01:15:21,421
yeah yeah.

2392
01:15:21,421 --> 01:15:23,457
So you know there's that piece

2393
01:15:23,457 --> 01:15:23,790
there.

2394
01:15:23,790 --> 01:15:24,641
All right.

2395
01:15:24,641 --> 01:15:27,611
Budget stuff right I think you

2396
01:15:27,611 --> 01:15:28,329
answer my one conversation

2397
01:15:28,329 --> 01:15:30,381
piece with central was master

2398
01:15:30,381 --> 01:15:31,131
plan.

2399
01:15:31,131 --> 01:15:34,401
I know we had the conversation

2400
01:15:34,401 --> 01:15:34,718
here but we really didn't do

2401
01:15:34,718 --> 01:15:34,936
anything with it.

2402
01:15:34,936 --> 01:15:36,936
Right?

2403
01:15:37,104 --> 01:15:37,304
We just had the conversation

2404
01:15:37,304 --> 01:15:38,472
correct.

2405
01:15:38,472 --> 01:15:41,541
>> so if I recall there was a

2406
01:15:41,541 --> 01:15:42,176
presentation made by the

2407
01:15:42,176 --> 01:15:45,176
consultant as the master plan

2408
01:15:45,445 --> 01:15:46,970
process was winding down

2409
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:46,297
looking for some input from the

2410
01:15:46,297 --> 01:15:48,297
commission.

2411
01:15:48,766 --> 01:15:49,266
I don't think that there was

2412
01:15:49,266 --> 01:15:49,434
any direct input at the

2413
01:15:49,434 --> 01:15:50,401
meeting.

2414
01:15:50,401 --> 01:15:52,953
Not to say that some of you

2415
01:15:52,953 --> 01:15:53,504
maybe didn't interact with the

2416
01:15:53,504 --> 01:15:56,504
consultant at some of the

2417
01:15:56,657 --> 01:15:56,874
public engagement forums that

2418
01:15:56,874 --> 01:15:57,642
they had.

2419
01:15:57,642 --> 01:16:00,394
>> and then the second piece

2420
01:16:00,394 --> 01:16:00,928
that I remember was the

2421
01:16:00,928 --> 01:16:03,328
commission adopting the the

2422
01:16:04,681 --> 01:16:07,451
master plan formally and voting

2423
01:16:07,451 --> 01:16:08,252
to accept accept it.

2424
01:16:08,252 --> 01:16:08,587
But that's kind of only the

2425
01:16:08,587 --> 01:16:10,587
first start, right?

2426
01:16:11,455 --> 01:16:12,189
That's that's the cornerstone

2427
01:16:12,189 --> 01:16:12,739
on it's the building block but

2428
01:16:12,739 --> 01:16:15,309
from there there really needs

2429
01:16:15,309 --> 01:16:15,826
to be more of a robust in-depth

2430
01:16:15,826 --> 01:16:18,226
conversation about what your

2431
01:16:19,313 --> 01:16:19,513
priorities are as a commission

2432
01:16:19,513 --> 01:16:21,513
.

2433
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,350
Where where do you see the

2434
01:16:24,350 --> 01:16:24,652
first opportunities for some of

2435
01:16:24,652 --> 01:16:27,210
those enhancements to take

2436
01:16:27,210 --> 01:16:27,755
place now from a construct

2437
01:16:27,755 --> 01:16:30,755
ability standpoint, some of the

2438
01:16:30,909 --> 01:16:31,459
enhancements obviously if

2439
01:16:31,459 --> 01:16:32,409
you're talking about like like

2440
01:16:32,409 --> 01:16:35,196
a really big bite of the pie

2441
01:16:35,196 --> 01:16:35,947
and this is I'm not telling you

2442
01:16:35,947 --> 01:16:38,800
this would be the first white

2443
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,450
building event center with a

2444
01:16:39,450 --> 01:16:42,450
really big parking lot your

2445
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,454
stormwater element of that plan

2446
01:16:43,454 --> 01:16:45,523
would have to come first

2447
01:16:45,523 --> 01:16:46,157
because there's going to be a I

2448
01:16:46,157 --> 01:16:49,157
a substantial impact on the

2449
01:16:49,811 --> 01:16:50,110
stormwater criteria for the

2450
01:16:50,110 --> 01:16:50,661
park.

2451
01:16:50,661 --> 01:16:51,312
If that were to be your first

2452
01:16:51,312 --> 01:16:51,479
priority was to build the event

2453
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,479
center.

2454
01:16:54,980 --> 01:16:54,299
Let's just say for sake of

2455
01:16:54,299 --> 01:16:56,299
discussion.

2456
01:16:57,985 --> 01:16:58,419
So beyond that I don't think

2457
01:16:58,419 --> 01:17:00,671
commissioner, to your point

2458
01:17:00,671 --> 01:17:01,122
there's really been any more

2459
01:17:01,122 --> 01:17:03,522
in-depth conversation and I

2460
01:17:04,592 --> 01:17:05,443
think it might be appropriate

2461
01:17:05,443 --> 01:17:05,610
and I would defer to the city

2462
01:17:05,610 --> 01:17:06,211
manager.

2463
01:17:06,211 --> 01:17:08,963
Obviously once you all get

2464
01:17:08,963 --> 01:17:09,480
through some of the more

2465
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,880
critical conversations as it

2466
01:17:12,733 --> 01:17:13,268
pertains to stormwater

2467
01:17:13,268 --> 01:17:15,268
wastewater and utility

2468
01:17:16,220 --> 01:17:16,721
infrastructure with some of the

2469
01:17:16,721 --> 01:17:17,555
workshops you've been doing, it

2470
01:17:17,555 --> 01:17:20,124
might be appropriate to do it

2471
01:17:20,124 --> 01:17:20,875
on a workshop specifically for

2472
01:17:20,875 --> 01:17:23,875
some of the public facilities

2473
01:17:24,362 --> 01:17:25,313
with a focus on parks so that

2474
01:17:25,313 --> 01:17:27,248
we can get some ideas from the

2475
01:17:27,248 --> 01:17:27,465
commission of where your

2476
01:17:27,465 --> 01:17:28,650
priorities at.

2477
01:17:28,650 --> 01:17:31,402
And as a staff we can kind of

2478
01:17:31,402 --> 01:17:31,953
share with you our perspective

2479
01:17:31,953 --> 01:17:32,687
on some of the existing

2480
01:17:32,687 --> 01:17:35,390
conditions of some of the

2481
01:17:35,390 --> 01:17:35,254
amenities at your public

2482
01:17:35,254 --> 01:17:36,700
facilities.

2483
01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:39,700
>> so with that, I appreciate

2484
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:39,811
you jumping right into that

2485
01:17:39,811 --> 01:17:42,497
piece so to everybody up here

2486
01:17:42,497 --> 01:17:45,500
but also to you down there and

2487
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:45,667
you city manager, that was one

2488
01:17:45,667 --> 01:17:45,934
of those pieces and I've been

2489
01:17:45,934 --> 01:17:46,785
here long enough.

2490
01:17:46,785 --> 01:17:49,454
We sort of had that

2491
01:17:49,454 --> 01:17:52,454
conversation in 2012 to build a

2492
01:17:52,907 --> 01:17:53,775
maintenance plan.

2493
01:17:53,775 --> 01:17:57,145
We kind of fell away with that.

2494
01:17:57,145 --> 01:18:00,745
I think you and chris caldwell

2495
01:18:00,816 --> 01:18:01,783
were part of building something

2496
01:18:01,783 --> 01:18:02,400
,but I don't think we ever did

2497
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,852
anything with that so far as

2498
01:18:04,852 --> 01:18:05,587
did you say a maintenance plan

2499
01:18:05,587 --> 01:18:08,256
with all of the equipment that

2500
01:18:08,256 --> 01:18:08,907
we have so that way that

2501
01:18:08,907 --> 01:18:12,760
doesn't just get to what you

2502
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:12,310
just said there, come back and

2503
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:13,144
check on.

2504
01:18:13,144 --> 01:18:14,112
>> I'd have to go back and look

2505
01:18:14,112 --> 01:18:16,131
at some of the details of that

2506
01:18:16,131 --> 01:18:16,681
conversation.

2507
01:18:16,681 --> 01:18:16,998
Commissioner, I would say

2508
01:18:16,998 --> 01:18:18,998
overall, just generally

2509
01:18:20,168 --> 01:18:20,886
speaking, looking at the

2510
01:18:20,886 --> 01:18:23,338
conditions of some of your

2511
01:18:23,338 --> 01:18:23,672
primarily public facilities,

2512
01:18:23,672 --> 01:18:25,672
playgrounds in particular,

2513
01:18:27,226 --> 01:18:27,993
we've done a tremendous amount

2514
01:18:27,993 --> 01:18:30,946
of replacement in the last 3 to

2515
01:18:30,946 --> 01:18:31,579
4 years of playgrounds

2516
01:18:31,579 --> 01:18:34,579
throughout the city, the ones

2517
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:35,700
that are still remaining there

2518
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:36,367
are in good shape, but there

2519
01:18:36,367 --> 01:18:38,904
does need to be a conversation

2520
01:18:38,904 --> 01:18:39,654
about replacement, particularly

2521
01:18:39,654 --> 01:18:40,550
of the large playground at the

2522
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:40,906
back of central wins.

2523
01:18:40,906 --> 01:18:43,458
I'd say that that conversation

2524
01:18:43,458 --> 01:18:44,526
is probably tangible in the

2525
01:18:44,526 --> 01:18:47,379
next 2 to 3 years given the age

2526
01:18:47,379 --> 01:18:47,596
of that that playground

2527
01:18:47,596 --> 01:18:49,596
specifically.

2528
01:18:51,166 --> 01:18:51,817
But overall the other amenities

2529
01:18:51,817 --> 01:18:54,270
in the parks, they have been

2530
01:18:54,270 --> 01:18:54,903
maintained very well.

2531
01:18:54,903 --> 01:18:55,653
Some of them are newer.

2532
01:18:55,653 --> 01:18:58,524
Obviously we started out sam

2533
01:18:58,524 --> 01:18:59,357
smith and I think morse park

2534
01:18:59,357 --> 01:19:01,757
back in 2017 2018 with the

2535
01:19:02,427 --> 01:19:03,620
replacement moved on to

2536
01:19:03,620 --> 01:19:06,620
trotwood central wins for the

2537
01:19:06,115 --> 01:19:06,865
sports playground.

2538
01:19:06,865 --> 01:19:09,317
So but overall those those

2539
01:19:09,317 --> 01:19:09,952
amenities are holding up well.

2540
01:19:09,952 --> 01:19:12,352
They are being maintained.

2541
01:19:13,422 --> 01:19:13,973
But you know obviously that

2542
01:19:13,973 --> 01:19:16,973
conversation needs to be an

2543
01:19:17,226 --> 01:19:17,776
ongoing interactive dialog so

2544
01:19:17,776 --> 01:19:18,930
that we don't get ourselves

2545
01:19:18,930 --> 01:19:20,930
into the position.

2546
01:19:20,446 --> 01:19:21,179
We found ourselves back in 2015

2547
01:19:21,179 --> 01:19:23,579
2016 where we have numerous

2548
01:19:24,766 --> 01:19:25,434
playgrounds at city parks that

2549
01:19:25,434 --> 01:19:25,768
all need to be replaced at the

2550
01:19:25,768 --> 01:19:27,768
same time, right?

2551
01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:28,687
So with that logic in mind,

2552
01:19:28,687 --> 01:19:31,456
what I'm looking at here and

2553
01:19:31,456 --> 01:19:32,207
this is due to the manager this

2554
01:19:32,207 --> 01:19:35,460
is what I would consider an

2555
01:19:35,460 --> 01:19:35,894
infrastructure budget to my

2556
01:19:35,894 --> 01:19:37,894
$0.02 because everything from

2557
01:19:38,547 --> 01:19:39,198
cleat you were sharing looks to

2558
01:19:39,198 --> 01:19:39,832
me as we're breaking down all

2559
01:19:39,832 --> 01:19:42,232
the infrastructure that needs

2560
01:19:42,918 --> 01:19:43,668
to be replaced, which if we go

2561
01:19:43,668 --> 01:19:46,856
with the model of the parks,

2562
01:19:46,856 --> 01:19:47,289
it's going to be replaced now

2563
01:19:47,289 --> 01:19:49,689
maintained in the future.

2564
01:19:50,420 --> 01:19:50,826
So that's what this looks like.

2565
01:19:50,826 --> 01:19:53,662
So that's why it's such a

2566
01:19:53,662 --> 01:19:54,313
significant dollar cost.

2567
01:19:54,313 --> 01:19:54,831
It's because we're looking at

2568
01:19:54,831 --> 01:19:56,831
an infrastructure project

2569
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:58,230
budget that personally is yes,

2570
01:19:58,230 --> 01:20:00,230
okay.

2571
01:20:02,204 --> 01:20:02,538
So we are looking at this kind

2572
01:20:02,538 --> 01:20:04,538
of a budget.

2573
01:20:04,890 --> 01:20:05,557
I'm looking at you here for the

2574
01:20:05,557 --> 01:20:06,391
next five years or so because

2575
01:20:06,391 --> 01:20:08,430
of those five years worth of

2576
01:20:08,430 --> 01:20:11,643
projects or is that this for

2577
01:20:11,713 --> 01:20:12,164
the next five years plus five

2578
01:20:12,164 --> 01:20:12,998
years because really continue

2579
01:20:12,998 --> 01:20:15,852
the maintenance of it is the

2580
01:20:15,852 --> 01:20:16,302
maintenance that much cheaper

2581
01:20:16,302 --> 01:20:17,353
more significantly cheaper or

2582
01:20:17,353 --> 01:20:18,938
is this kind of cost as we move

2583
01:20:18,938 --> 01:20:21,938
down much of the infrastructure

2584
01:20:26,429 --> 01:20:27,162
plan on the on the utility side

2585
01:20:27,162 --> 01:20:27,496
will incorporate an element of

2586
01:20:27,496 --> 01:20:29,496
operation and maintenance.

2587
01:20:29,848 --> 01:20:30,107
But typically we're pretty much

2588
01:20:30,107 --> 01:20:30,599
landlocked.

2589
01:20:30,599 --> 01:20:31,133
You don't really need to

2590
01:20:31,133 --> 01:20:33,533
consider that unless you're

2591
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:33,819
expanding your your developable

2592
01:20:33,819 --> 01:20:34,120
area.

2593
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,120
>> okay.

2594
01:20:37,573 --> 01:20:38,324
Thank you.

2595
01:20:38,324 --> 01:20:41,324
My other comment to everybody

2596
01:20:41,377 --> 01:20:44,947
up here, this started with the

2597
01:20:44,947 --> 01:20:47,347
chief actually and finance

2598
01:20:48,617 --> 01:20:49,218
director at the time is

2599
01:20:49,218 --> 01:20:51,218
personnel retirement and

2600
01:20:52,671 --> 01:20:53,305
pension.

2601
01:20:53,305 --> 01:20:55,705
My conversation started when

2602
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,476
the legislature met chief

2603
01:20:59,946 --> 01:21:02,832
correct me if I was 24 was the

2604
01:21:02,832 --> 01:21:03,483
24 year or 23 year I think 23

2605
01:21:03,483 --> 01:21:03,699
when they met and change the

2606
01:21:03,699 --> 01:21:05,699
laws again.

2607
01:21:07,403 --> 01:21:10,657
So I've asked for at least

2608
01:21:10,657 --> 01:21:13,726
going on now to full budgets

2609
01:21:13,726 --> 01:21:14,360
for us to assess and make sure

2610
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,360
that our retirement plan or

2611
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:18,364
pension plan is in line with

2612
01:21:18,364 --> 01:21:18,564
others so that we're

2613
01:21:18,564 --> 01:21:20,564
competitive.

2614
01:21:21,451 --> 01:21:21,984
One thing missing from this

2615
01:21:21,984 --> 01:21:23,936
budget city manager is that

2616
01:21:23,936 --> 01:21:26,936
that is still not complete

2617
01:21:28,191 --> 01:21:28,959
right?

2618
01:21:28,959 --> 01:21:31,611
What for the fairness of our

2619
01:21:31,611 --> 01:21:32,345
staff and maintaining our staff

2620
01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:32,545
as they look around other

2621
01:21:32,545 --> 01:21:33,413
communities?

2622
01:21:33,413 --> 01:21:36,165
Is that something on the table

2623
01:21:36,165 --> 01:21:38,565
for the next budget?

2624
01:21:39,335 --> 01:21:39,886
And I know we're working on

2625
01:21:39,886 --> 01:21:42,221
this one but that's a

2626
01:21:42,221 --> 01:21:43,105
significant piece for me.

2627
01:21:43,105 --> 01:21:46,590
I can speak to that chief and

2628
01:21:46,590 --> 01:21:46,942
you can add in your input.

2629
01:21:46,942 --> 01:21:47,677
So coming in when I first came

2630
01:21:47,677 --> 01:21:50,330
in, obviously I know those

2631
01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:50,980
discussions had been happening.

2632
01:21:50,980 --> 01:21:53,933
Looking at it from my

2633
01:21:53,933 --> 01:21:54,384
perspective coming on the tail

2634
01:21:54,384 --> 01:21:56,784
end of salary adjustments,

2635
01:21:57,437 --> 01:21:57,987
looking at a really a doomsday

2636
01:21:57,987 --> 01:22:00,387
scenario down 17 officers and

2637
01:22:01,458 --> 01:22:02,800
the risk of public safety for

2638
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,800
our community and really trying

2639
01:22:05,161 --> 01:22:05,302
to look at talking with our

2640
01:22:05,302 --> 01:22:07,302
H.R.

2641
01:22:09,310 --> 01:22:09,465
Manager our leadership team

2642
01:22:09,465 --> 01:22:11,865
through exit interviews and

2643
01:22:12,835 --> 01:22:13,670
conversations is what's driving

2644
01:22:13,670 --> 01:22:14,338
a lot of this and certainly

2645
01:22:14,338 --> 01:22:16,372
salary is one component of that

2646
01:22:16,372 --> 01:22:16,823
but we're even seeing that even

2647
01:22:16,823 --> 01:22:19,223
on the younger generation

2648
01:22:19,776 --> 01:22:20,310
taking more of an interest now

2649
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:22,710
in looking at retirement

2650
01:22:23,981 --> 01:22:24,847
benefits and things like that,

2651
01:22:24,847 --> 01:22:25,281
what we've done is we've had a

2652
01:22:25,281 --> 01:22:27,681
number of internal meetings.

2653
01:22:28,452 --> 01:22:31,400
I have executed an agreement

2654
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:31,822
with grace our actuarial

2655
01:22:31,822 --> 01:22:34,222
consultant, to evaluate our

2656
01:22:35,275 --> 01:22:37,275
current retirement system.

2657
01:22:38,962 --> 01:22:39,596
We're talking only on the non

2658
01:22:39,596 --> 01:22:40,230
sworn officers only impacts six

2659
01:22:40,230 --> 01:22:42,630
individuals that are still

2660
01:22:43,367 --> 01:22:43,917
currently employed that are

2661
01:22:43,917 --> 01:22:46,386
pension eligible and then the

2662
01:22:46,386 --> 01:22:47,120
rest are all sworn officers

2663
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,590
that make up our pension plan

2664
01:22:50,590 --> 01:22:51,240
and bring that back again

2665
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,760
internally a number of

2666
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:53,927
conversations that presented

2667
01:22:53,927 --> 01:22:54,712
back to the chief kind of put

2668
01:22:54,712 --> 01:22:57,364
it back on him and say what are

2669
01:22:57,364 --> 01:22:57,898
our top kind of five priorities

2670
01:22:57,898 --> 01:23:00,298
doing an analysis and

2671
01:23:01,368 --> 01:23:02,136
evaluation of what what's

2672
01:23:02,136 --> 01:23:05,289
offered at the state as well as

2673
01:23:05,289 --> 01:23:08,141
what all of the municipalities

2674
01:23:08,141 --> 01:23:09,420
in seminole county are offering

2675
01:23:09,420 --> 01:23:09,610
and what do we think might be

2676
01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:12,579
sort of our top five benefits.

2677
01:23:12,579 --> 01:23:13,129
So we could look at exploring,

2678
01:23:13,129 --> 01:23:16,129
which is the initiative that

2679
01:23:16,483 --> 01:23:17,340
we've undertaken with grace, as

2680
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:19,503
I said, are actuarial consults.

2681
01:23:19,503 --> 01:23:20,137
>> the plan would be to come

2682
01:23:20,137 --> 01:23:23,137
back when they complete their

2683
01:23:23,707 --> 01:23:24,257
evaluation and that's in line.

2684
01:23:24,257 --> 01:23:26,494
It's a big undertaking.

2685
01:23:26,494 --> 01:23:29,494
It's a technical process and

2686
01:23:30,264 --> 01:23:30,681
utilizing them it's also a

2687
01:23:30,681 --> 01:23:32,681
credible evaluation and

2688
01:23:34,151 --> 01:23:34,885
independent source to look at

2689
01:23:34,885 --> 01:23:35,636
looking at those five options,

2690
01:23:35,636 --> 01:23:38,880
you know, those options and

2691
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:38,939
what benefits what we might be

2692
01:23:38,939 --> 01:23:42,426
able to tackle and what I'll

2693
01:23:42,426 --> 01:23:43,100
say is that you're not seeing

2694
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:43,543
in a 26 because none of that

2695
01:23:43,543 --> 01:23:45,913
has happened up until now.

2696
01:23:45,913 --> 01:23:46,463
I think this is really the

2697
01:23:46,463 --> 01:23:47,800
first movement of that needle

2698
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,480
that's to start that

2699
01:23:49,716 --> 01:23:50,601
conversation.

2700
01:23:50,601 --> 01:23:51,201
i don't I know it's been talked

2701
01:23:51,201 --> 01:23:53,653
about and talked about, but you

2702
01:23:53,653 --> 01:23:54,204
know, it doesn't there hasn't

2703
01:23:54,204 --> 01:23:57,204
hadn't really been any real

2704
01:23:57,557 --> 01:23:57,741
moving of that needle and

2705
01:23:57,741 --> 01:23:58,326
direction.

2706
01:23:58,326 --> 01:24:01,326
This engagement with grc will

2707
01:24:01,812 --> 01:24:02,463
get us there to be able to then

2708
01:24:02,463 --> 01:24:05,933
be able to make some fiscal

2709
01:24:05,933 --> 01:24:06,550
decisions and you know what I

2710
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:06,984
would tell our you know, our

2711
01:24:06,984 --> 01:24:09,384
employees and future employees

2712
01:24:09,553 --> 01:24:10,870
I mean, we're committed to to

2713
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:13,870
evaluating and looking at that

2714
01:24:13,674 --> 01:24:14,324
we might be able to adopt some

2715
01:24:14,324 --> 01:24:17,211
of those options in you know,

2716
01:24:17,211 --> 01:24:19,480
in in f y 27 this this will be

2717
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:20,547
done by the end of the calendar

2718
01:24:20,547 --> 01:24:24,180
year just in time for the f y

2719
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:24,735
27 budget process as we go

2720
01:24:24,735 --> 01:24:25,385
through and look at that and we

2721
01:24:25,385 --> 01:24:27,939
can have that conversation at

2722
01:24:27,939 --> 01:24:28,105
that time around what can we

2723
01:24:28,105 --> 01:24:28,706
afford.

2724
01:24:28,706 --> 01:24:28,890
Maybe it's a phased in

2725
01:24:28,890 --> 01:24:30,890
approach.

2726
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:32,326
It might be over one, two, 3 or

2727
01:24:32,326 --> 01:24:34,326
4 fiscal years.

2728
01:24:35,696 --> 01:24:36,147
You know, we don't know yet.

2729
01:24:36,147 --> 01:24:37,140
It's it's premature.

2730
01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:39,967
But I think you know, I think

2731
01:24:39,967 --> 01:24:40,718
we all realize that this is

2732
01:24:40,718 --> 01:24:43,287
necessary and we really need to

2733
01:24:43,287 --> 01:24:43,721
look at making sure that the

2734
01:24:43,721 --> 01:24:43,855
benefits that we're offering

2735
01:24:43,855 --> 01:24:45,855
are.

2736
01:24:46,674 --> 01:24:47,325
Yeah.

2737
01:24:47,325 --> 01:24:48,590
Are competitive and that's so

2738
01:24:48,590 --> 01:24:51,280
that's where that's where that

2739
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,280
stands that has been covered

2740
01:24:54,198 --> 01:24:54,865
through the f y 25 process as

2741
01:24:54,865 --> 01:24:57,919
far as getting us there, the

2742
01:24:57,919 --> 01:25:00,788
completion of that and plans

2743
01:25:00,788 --> 01:25:01,206
for that fy 27 budget for some

2744
01:25:01,206 --> 01:25:01,422
bigger discussions and

2745
01:25:01,422 --> 01:25:01,573
conversations.

2746
01:25:01,573 --> 01:25:03,573
Right.

2747
01:25:04,825 --> 01:25:05,260
So we will work on it.

2748
01:25:05,260 --> 01:25:05,260
Yes.

2749
01:25:05,260 --> 01:25:05,576
Good.

2750
01:25:05,576 --> 01:25:07,576
thank you.

2751
01:25:08,763 --> 01:25:09,497
One more thing and this goes to

2752
01:25:09,497 --> 01:25:12,497
special assessment test call up

2753
01:25:12,967 --> 01:25:15,367
box reserve city attorney.

2754
01:25:17,155 --> 01:25:17,397
I'm looking at this here this

2755
01:25:17,397 --> 01:25:17,491
year.

2756
01:25:17,491 --> 01:25:18,139
Right.

2757
01:25:18,139 --> 01:25:19,890
I received some calls through

2758
01:25:19,890 --> 01:25:20,441
the year to say we hadn't done

2759
01:25:20,441 --> 01:25:20,991
any work on this wall.

2760
01:25:20,991 --> 01:25:23,391
We haven't been maintaining

2761
01:25:25,380 --> 01:25:25,596
this war and again, I was here

2762
01:25:25,596 --> 01:25:26,647
through that.

2763
01:25:26,647 --> 01:25:30,247
You were here through that you

2764
01:25:31,190 --> 01:25:33,988
you go through that correct me

2765
01:25:33,988 --> 01:25:34,422
if I'm wrong, but why should

2766
01:25:34,422 --> 01:25:36,822
they be this low?

2767
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:38,643
Because this this seems like

2768
01:25:38,643 --> 01:25:41,643
something's not if if we

2769
01:25:41,913 --> 01:25:42,113
haven't been doing any work on

2770
01:25:42,113 --> 01:25:42,980
it.

2771
01:25:42,980 --> 01:25:43,714
Brian, you can tell me if I'm

2772
01:25:43,714 --> 01:25:45,366
wrong or right, but something

2773
01:25:45,366 --> 01:25:48,853
doesn't add up from what we

2774
01:25:48,853 --> 01:25:49,254
originally intended to where we

2775
01:25:49,254 --> 01:25:51,254
are today.

2776
01:25:53,124 --> 01:25:56,124
Am I missing something from

2777
01:25:57,950 --> 01:25:57,829
from what I can observe in

2778
01:25:57,829 --> 01:26:00,829
looking at that hawks reserve

2779
01:26:01,516 --> 01:26:03,968
wall, there has been some

2780
01:26:03,968 --> 01:26:04,603
maintenance but some of the

2781
01:26:04,603 --> 01:26:07,300
substantial costs that are

2782
01:26:08,256 --> 01:26:08,924
associated with the wall at

2783
01:26:08,924 --> 01:26:12,760
this point are far beyond just

2784
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:12,293
regular repair and maintenance

2785
01:26:12,293 --> 01:26:13,144
cost.

2786
01:26:13,144 --> 01:26:16,298
There are some areas where the

2787
01:26:16,298 --> 01:26:16,848
footers are foundation is

2788
01:26:16,848 --> 01:26:19,848
starting are starting to fail,

2789
01:26:20,402 --> 01:26:21,690
which obviously poses a risk

2790
01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:24,122
that portions of the wall could

2791
01:26:24,122 --> 01:26:27,920
be in danger of falling.

2792
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,920
We've had other areas where

2793
01:26:31,346 --> 01:26:31,780
we've had homeowners plant

2794
01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:34,180
things along the wall.

2795
01:26:34,433 --> 01:26:37,433
We've had people prune tree

2796
01:26:38,190 --> 01:26:38,536
root prune trees to put in

2797
01:26:38,536 --> 01:26:39,204
swimming pools without permits

2798
01:26:39,204 --> 01:26:42,373
and trees fall down in the

2799
01:26:42,373 --> 01:26:42,925
middle of hurricanes on top of

2800
01:26:42,925 --> 01:26:45,925
the wall, which is interesting.

2801
01:26:46,828 --> 01:26:50,182
So from from what I can see is

2802
01:26:50,182 --> 01:26:50,732
that the operating budget was

2803
01:26:50,732 --> 01:26:53,284
intended for some minor repairs

2804
01:26:53,284 --> 01:26:54,252
tuck pointing things like that.

2805
01:26:54,252 --> 01:26:57,322
But because of the age of the

2806
01:26:57,322 --> 01:26:58,570
wall, not the entire thing but

2807
01:26:58,570 --> 01:27:01,109
in some portions there are some

2808
01:27:01,109 --> 01:27:01,643
significant constructed

2809
01:27:01,643 --> 01:27:02,594
construction related costs that

2810
01:27:02,594 --> 01:27:05,881
MAY need to be explored in the

2811
01:27:05,881 --> 01:27:06,515
future to shore up the the

2812
01:27:06,515 --> 01:27:08,751
structural integrity of the

2813
01:27:08,751 --> 01:27:11,151
wall in certain locations.

2814
01:27:12,521 --> 01:27:12,838
Significant dollars in too

2815
01:27:12,838 --> 01:27:14,838
early to tell.

2816
01:27:16,525 --> 01:27:17,580
>> we're still going through

2817
01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:17,809
the rate assessment with nbfcs.

2818
01:27:17,809 --> 01:27:20,679
We're giving them the areas

2819
01:27:20,679 --> 01:27:23,679
that we've identified that MAY

2820
01:27:24,349 --> 01:27:24,645
need to be have significant

2821
01:27:24,645 --> 01:27:25,317
costs.

2822
01:27:25,317 --> 01:27:28,353
But once we have those those

2823
01:27:28,353 --> 01:27:28,904
projected costs and the

2824
01:27:28,904 --> 01:27:31,256
expenses back nbfcs will be

2825
01:27:31,256 --> 01:27:31,790
able to come back with a

2826
01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:34,190
funding recommendation based on

2827
01:27:35,661 --> 01:27:38,213
the number of homeowners that

2828
01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:38,430
are within the task will have

2829
01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:39,398
three.

2830
01:27:39,398 --> 01:27:42,751
And also keep in mind I believe

2831
01:27:42,751 --> 01:27:43,185
a certain number of those

2832
01:27:43,185 --> 01:27:43,902
homeowners that back up

2833
01:27:43,902 --> 01:27:45,437
directly to the wall do pay a

2834
01:27:45,437 --> 01:27:45,988
little bit more because they

2835
01:27:45,988 --> 01:27:46,722
have the the benefit of

2836
01:27:46,722 --> 01:27:49,722
essentially a fence in their

2837
01:27:49,775 --> 01:27:50,542
backyard and that's very

2838
01:27:50,542 --> 01:27:53,696
similar to what we see over on

2839
01:27:53,696 --> 01:27:54,246
oak course as well for the

2840
01:27:54,246 --> 01:27:54,463
residents that are adjacent to

2841
01:27:54,463 --> 01:27:56,463
tuscola road.

2842
01:27:57,733 --> 01:27:58,284
Those those residents have a

2843
01:27:58,284 --> 01:28:01,284
higher value because of the

2844
01:28:01,537 --> 01:28:03,937
walls presence there city

2845
01:28:05,407 --> 01:28:06,475
manager we keeping them abreast

2846
01:28:06,475 --> 01:28:07,226
of all of this yeah so that's I

2847
01:28:07,226 --> 01:28:09,780
think I was going to actually

2848
01:28:09,780 --> 01:28:12,949
add that as brian said one the

2849
01:28:12,949 --> 01:28:13,282
nbs rate study we're planning a

2850
01:28:13,282 --> 01:28:14,266
a community meeting.

2851
01:28:14,266 --> 01:28:18,370
This one's a little bit more of

2852
01:28:18,370 --> 01:28:18,587
a challenge as I think, you

2853
01:28:18,587 --> 01:28:18,904
know, parks reserve does not

2854
01:28:18,904 --> 01:28:20,904
have an hoa.

2855
01:28:21,874 --> 01:28:22,625
The city is essentially sort of

2856
01:28:22,625 --> 01:28:24,660
serving to some degree kind of

2857
01:28:24,660 --> 01:28:25,510
like that.

2858
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:28,464
And you know, unlike the others

2859
01:28:28,464 --> 01:28:29,214
that have nearly appointed

2860
01:28:29,214 --> 01:28:29,949
board and you know, so they're

2861
01:28:29,949 --> 01:28:32,100
having that discussion from an

2862
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:32,151
advisory that doesn't really

2863
01:28:32,151 --> 01:28:32,968
exist.

2864
01:28:32,968 --> 01:28:35,838
So what we're planning on doing

2865
01:28:35,838 --> 01:28:36,255
is put forth setting that

2866
01:28:36,255 --> 01:28:38,655
conversation up excuse me.

2867
01:28:39,641 --> 01:28:40,590
We want to understand what that

2868
01:28:40,590 --> 01:28:40,726
is looking like.

2869
01:28:40,726 --> 01:28:41,444
And you know, we certainly

2870
01:28:41,444 --> 01:28:44,444
internally have been having the

2871
01:28:44,697 --> 01:28:45,464
conversation.

2872
01:28:45,464 --> 01:28:48,170
But rest assured there will be

2873
01:28:48,170 --> 01:28:48,668
a community meeting in relation

2874
01:28:48,668 --> 01:28:51,937
to this and having and starting

2875
01:28:51,937 --> 01:28:52,489
that discussion when we have a

2876
01:28:52,489 --> 01:28:52,838
little bit more information so

2877
01:28:52,838 --> 01:28:53,272
that at this point.

2878
01:28:53,272 --> 01:28:54,890
>> thank you.

2879
01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:56,890
Thank you.

2880
01:28:58,661 --> 01:29:00,661
Any other questions?

2881
01:29:05,968 --> 01:29:06,836
Open floor seeing none.

2882
01:29:06,836 --> 01:29:07,486
>> MR. Mayor, if I could just

2883
01:29:07,486 --> 01:29:10,486
to just take another minute.

2884
01:29:10,573 --> 01:29:14,260
One thing that in absence of

2885
01:29:14,260 --> 01:29:14,177
leonard who was not here as

2886
01:29:14,177 --> 01:29:14,677
well.

2887
01:29:14,677 --> 01:29:16,546
Director of facilities and

2888
01:29:16,546 --> 01:29:17,379
capital projects and just again

2889
01:29:17,379 --> 01:29:17,914
,to sort of reiterate my

2890
01:29:17,914 --> 01:29:20,914
thinking with some of the

2891
01:29:20,984 --> 01:29:21,784
reorganization and restructure

2892
01:29:21,784 --> 01:29:22,302
think we have the I think you

2893
01:29:22,302 --> 01:29:25,550
MAY touch on that as well.

2894
01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:25,605
I think we have the right

2895
01:29:25,605 --> 01:29:26,455
people, you know, the right

2896
01:29:26,455 --> 01:29:28,508
team in place and the right

2897
01:29:28,508 --> 01:29:28,740
people and the oversight of

2898
01:29:28,740 --> 01:29:30,740
their roles.

2899
01:29:32,812 --> 01:29:33,446
None which of you know, some of

2900
01:29:33,446 --> 01:29:35,846
the restructuring with leonard

2901
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:36,632
and putting our parks and

2902
01:29:36,632 --> 01:29:38,632
recreation urban beautification

2903
01:29:39,385 --> 01:29:39,819
under brian and his his years

2904
01:29:39,819 --> 01:29:42,219
of experience and oversight

2905
01:29:43,206 --> 01:29:43,640
there I think we'll see some

2906
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,400
significant results from that

2907
01:29:47,310 --> 01:29:47,744
in addition to being able to

2908
01:29:47,744 --> 01:29:50,144
utilize leonard and his

2909
01:29:50,997 --> 01:29:53,397
background and experience what

2910
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:55,835
walking into the city was

2911
01:29:55,835 --> 01:29:58,505
somewhat of a real shock to me

2912
01:29:58,505 --> 01:30:02,259
that a city of our size and our

2913
01:30:02,259 --> 01:30:02,709
infrastructure we we don't have

2914
01:30:02,709 --> 01:30:05,109
a facilities capital plan.

2915
01:30:06,279 --> 01:30:06,613
When I say that regarding our

2916
01:30:06,613 --> 01:30:06,963
building and municipal

2917
01:30:06,963 --> 01:30:08,963
infrastructure, millions of

2918
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:10,834
dollars with no plan,

2919
01:30:10,834 --> 01:30:13,234
everything has been reactive.

2920
01:30:13,486 --> 01:30:15,938
We're placing one one window a

2921
01:30:15,938 --> 01:30:16,372
year in this building for

2922
01:30:16,372 --> 01:30:16,890
$2,500 instead of a

2923
01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:18,890
comprehensive evaluation and

2924
01:30:20,777 --> 01:30:20,982
analysis of all of our building

2925
01:30:20,982 --> 01:30:22,982
facilities.

2926
01:30:23,262 --> 01:30:23,797
So what you'll see in this

2927
01:30:23,797 --> 01:30:26,197
budget is a $75,000 number

2928
01:30:27,367 --> 01:30:28,135
coming from fund balance as a

2929
01:30:28,135 --> 01:30:31,270
one time that will do a

2930
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:31,821
comprehensive dive into the

2931
01:30:31,821 --> 01:30:32,472
evaluation of all of our

2932
01:30:32,472 --> 01:30:35,472
municipal buildings so that we

2933
01:30:35,642 --> 01:30:39,290
can start to plan and have an

2934
01:30:39,290 --> 01:30:39,646
idea when it comes to projected

2935
01:30:39,646 --> 01:30:42,460
replacement timelines on what's

2936
01:30:42,399 --> 01:30:42,832
the expected life of everything

2937
01:30:42,832 --> 01:30:45,232
from building envelope roofs,

2938
01:30:46,386 --> 01:30:46,937
windows, mechanical systems as

2939
01:30:46,937 --> 01:30:49,937
well as projected dollar amount

2940
01:30:50,290 --> 01:30:50,840
for those replacement might be

2941
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,410
something that is a projected

2942
01:30:53,410 --> 01:30:54,193
life of 15 years and we were

2943
01:30:54,193 --> 01:30:54,327
able to get 20 out of it or or

2944
01:30:54,327 --> 01:30:56,327
not.

2945
01:30:57,381 --> 01:30:57,931
But that where we stand today

2946
01:30:57,931 --> 01:30:58,381
is extremely reactive and we

2947
01:30:58,381 --> 01:31:00,781
can't operate that way.

2948
01:31:01,635 --> 01:31:02,185
So this budget does

2949
01:31:02,185 --> 01:31:04,421
particularly when it comes to

2950
01:31:04,421 --> 01:31:05,710
the facilities infrastructure

2951
01:31:05,710 --> 01:31:08,141
and this will be a big

2952
01:31:08,141 --> 01:31:08,975
component of of leonard's role

2953
01:31:08,975 --> 01:31:09,426
and his role as director of

2954
01:31:09,426 --> 01:31:11,826
facilities and capital projects

2955
01:31:12,462 --> 01:31:12,913
and spearheading and seeing

2956
01:31:12,913 --> 01:31:15,313
this through because we're

2957
01:31:16,349 --> 01:31:16,900
having extensive conversations

2958
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:17,300
,particularly on the utilities

2959
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:19,700
side and rightfully so.

2960
01:31:20,487 --> 01:31:21,380
But I also don't want to be in

2961
01:31:21,380 --> 01:31:23,474
a position we're having these

2962
01:31:23,474 --> 01:31:24,124
conversations based on lack of

2963
01:31:24,124 --> 01:31:24,358
,you know, maintenance and

2964
01:31:24,358 --> 01:31:26,358
decision making.

2965
01:31:27,528 --> 01:31:28,780
So we need to, you know, we

2966
01:31:28,780 --> 01:31:28,595
often don't talk enough about

2967
01:31:28,595 --> 01:31:30,595
our municipal facility

2968
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:33,316
buildings, you know, as a piece

2969
01:31:33,316 --> 01:31:34,167
of that.

2970
01:31:34,167 --> 01:31:35,919
So I just wanted to highlight

2971
01:31:35,919 --> 01:31:36,860
that because it is in the

2972
01:31:36,860 --> 01:31:36,687
budget.

2973
01:31:36,687 --> 01:31:39,687
It is something you'll see

2974
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:40,370
called out coming from fund

2975
01:31:40,370 --> 01:31:40,707
balance.

2976
01:31:40,707 --> 01:31:43,393
But I do fully believe there

2977
01:31:43,393 --> 01:31:44,244
will be some of the best money

2978
01:31:44,244 --> 01:31:47,815
spent in this budget as we, you

2979
01:31:47,815 --> 01:31:48,249
know, recognizing and seeing

2980
01:31:48,249 --> 01:31:48,999
and having the conversations

2981
01:31:48,999 --> 01:31:51,969
like you know, like I said,

2982
01:31:51,969 --> 01:31:52,620
replacing one window when you

2983
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:54,854
know every window needs to be

2984
01:31:54,854 --> 01:31:55,522
replaced and really the

2985
01:31:55,522 --> 01:31:58,875
reactive ness and not the lack

2986
01:31:58,875 --> 01:31:59,188
of proactive planning for our

2987
01:31:59,188 --> 01:32:00,770
building facilities.

2988
01:32:00,770 --> 01:32:02,846
>> I mean and so when you see

2989
01:32:02,846 --> 01:32:03,397
that in there I just wanted to

2990
01:32:03,397 --> 01:32:06,397
highlight that and I know

2991
01:32:06,750 --> 01:32:07,401
you'll leonard when is excited

2992
01:32:07,401 --> 01:32:09,854
to get that going and in

2993
01:32:09,854 --> 01:32:10,287
addition it really be a

2994
01:32:10,287 --> 01:32:12,687
comprehensive plan that will

2995
01:32:13,874 --> 01:32:14,424
become part of our cip and it

2996
01:32:14,424 --> 01:32:17,424
will also provide an asset

2997
01:32:17,794 --> 01:32:18,446
evaluations of all of the

2998
01:32:18,446 --> 01:32:22,160
assets and be able to quantify

2999
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:22,350
and tag that so you want to

3000
01:32:22,350 --> 01:32:22,733
share that piece.

3001
01:32:22,733 --> 01:32:23,167
Well, thank you.

3002
01:32:23,167 --> 01:32:25,167
I appreciate that.

3003
01:32:26,370 --> 01:32:26,704
You know, I talked about that

3004
01:32:26,704 --> 01:32:29,890
and this is yet another again,

3005
01:32:29,890 --> 01:32:30,324
a for lack of a better term,

3006
01:32:30,324 --> 01:32:31,392
it's a culture change.

3007
01:32:31,392 --> 01:32:33,344
>> and we look at cities like

3008
01:32:33,344 --> 01:32:33,778
oviedo that need that new

3009
01:32:33,778 --> 01:32:36,178
police department and they've

3010
01:32:37,470 --> 01:32:37,664
tried to put it before the

3011
01:32:37,664 --> 01:32:40,640
residents for bond initiatives

3012
01:32:40,935 --> 01:32:41,468
repeatedly.

3013
01:32:41,468 --> 01:32:42,319
They're struggling and that

3014
01:32:42,319 --> 01:32:45,190
even led to a conversation of

3015
01:32:45,190 --> 01:32:45,923
of doing away with the police

3016
01:32:45,923 --> 01:32:48,876
department and going to the

3017
01:32:48,876 --> 01:32:49,643
county.

3018
01:32:49,643 --> 01:32:50,278
What we're trying to do here

3019
01:32:50,278 --> 01:32:52,530
that's culture change of

3020
01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:53,164
planning for the long term and

3021
01:32:53,164 --> 01:32:56,164
not getting ourselves in a

3022
01:32:56,217 --> 01:32:56,951
position where we're we're

3023
01:32:56,951 --> 01:32:59,951
we're we're we're not being

3024
01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:00,655
fiscally responsible.

3025
01:33:00,655 --> 01:33:03,655
We've done a phenomenal job.

3026
01:33:04,225 --> 01:33:04,992
And again in counties I think

3027
01:33:04,992 --> 01:33:08,262
the proof is in the pudding if

3028
01:33:08,262 --> 01:33:08,696
we can continue to move the

3029
01:33:08,696 --> 01:33:11,960
needle and continue thinking

3030
01:33:11,249 --> 01:33:11,465
forward, this culture change, I

3031
01:33:11,465 --> 01:33:12,116
appreciate it.

3032
01:33:12,116 --> 01:33:15,116
Thank you for your leadership.

3033
01:33:15,169 --> 01:33:17,169
Thank.

3034
01:33:19,757 --> 01:33:20,508
Anyone else, MR. Mayor, you go.

3035
01:33:20,508 --> 01:33:22,676
>> no, no, you go.

3036
01:33:22,676 --> 01:33:23,110
Because I got three things and

3037
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:25,110
I do too.

3038
01:33:25,379 --> 01:33:25,813
>> I have several waiting for

3039
01:33:25,813 --> 01:33:26,447
everybody to to complete.

3040
01:33:26,447 --> 01:33:28,847
Commissioner baker, would you

3041
01:33:29,300 --> 01:33:29,734
like that?

3042
01:33:29,734 --> 01:33:31,734
>> please go.

3043
01:33:33,221 --> 01:33:33,772
I guess just to to make sure

3044
01:33:33,772 --> 01:33:36,772
that we're setting the public

3045
01:33:37,225 --> 01:33:37,775
record straight since a work of

3046
01:33:37,775 --> 01:33:40,127
fiction was submitted to the

3047
01:33:40,127 --> 01:33:40,428
clerk for inclusion into the

3048
01:33:40,428 --> 01:33:41,960
public record.

3049
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,960
And my question I guess

3050
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:44,599
probably would be for the

3051
01:33:44,599 --> 01:33:45,433
finance director since you've

3052
01:33:45,433 --> 01:33:48,402
got the experience in kind of

3053
01:33:48,402 --> 01:33:51,402
what what the weighted numbers

3054
01:33:52,257 --> 01:33:53,240
here would be.

3055
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,893
Just to clarify for the public

3056
01:33:55,893 --> 01:33:56,527
record when when someone claims

3057
01:33:56,527 --> 01:33:59,380
that winter springs has the

3058
01:33:59,380 --> 01:33:59,831
lowest millage rate, does that

3059
01:33:59,831 --> 01:34:02,167
actually provide an accurate

3060
01:34:02,167 --> 01:34:05,167
picture of the residents actual

3061
01:34:08,406 --> 01:34:10,910
tax burden

3062
01:34:10,910 --> 01:34:11,159
?

3063
01:34:11,159 --> 01:34:13,194
I'm not sure how to answer that

3064
01:34:13,194 --> 01:34:14,145
question.

3065
01:34:14,145 --> 01:34:17,715
I mean, is that an accurate

3066
01:34:17,715 --> 01:34:18,450
picture of the actual tax

3067
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:21,450
burden be based on the

3068
01:34:22,937 --> 01:34:23,255
valuation of the community that

3069
01:34:23,255 --> 01:34:24,105
they live in?

3070
01:34:24,105 --> 01:34:26,875
Are you're talking about the

3071
01:34:26,875 --> 01:34:27,609
actual tax bill and what that

3072
01:34:27,609 --> 01:34:30,609
individual is paying is direct

3073
01:34:30,878 --> 01:34:31,529
correlation to the you know,

3074
01:34:31,529 --> 01:34:33,582
the assessed value of the home.

3075
01:34:33,582 --> 01:34:34,449
The residents they live in.

3076
01:34:34,449 --> 01:34:38,490
>> well, I mean, just to make

3077
01:34:38,504 --> 01:34:39,237
sure we're comparing apples to

3078
01:34:39,237 --> 01:34:42,230
apples and not apples to

3079
01:34:42,230 --> 01:34:45,393
slogans, I guess maybe we can

3080
01:34:45,393 --> 01:34:48,393
help the public understand how

3081
01:34:50,265 --> 01:34:50,899
do special assessments fees,

3082
01:34:50,899 --> 01:34:53,299
utility rates, surcharges, all

3083
01:34:53,952 --> 01:34:57,739
sorts of of fees and taxes, how

3084
01:34:57,739 --> 01:35:00,592
does that affect the total cost

3085
01:35:00,592 --> 01:35:01,443
to a resident per capita?

3086
01:35:01,443 --> 01:35:04,296
Is that is that reflected in

3087
01:35:04,296 --> 01:35:04,596
that village?

3088
01:35:04,596 --> 01:35:04,830
Right.

3089
01:35:04,830 --> 01:35:06,830
Yeah.

3090
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:09,334
The budget drives drives that,

3091
01:35:09,334 --> 01:35:12,504
but it's not reflected in the

3092
01:35:12,504 --> 01:35:14,504
military which part?

3093
01:35:15,657 --> 01:35:16,292
>> so claiming that water

3094
01:35:16,292 --> 01:35:19,292
springs has a lowest military

3095
01:35:19,961 --> 01:35:20,495
doesn't actually provide an

3096
01:35:20,495 --> 01:35:23,495
accurate picture of what the

3097
01:35:23,683 --> 01:35:24,316
tax burden is to the residents

3098
01:35:24,316 --> 01:35:24,566
that correct it's just ad

3099
01:35:24,566 --> 01:35:26,566
valorem property.

3100
01:35:27,569 --> 01:35:28,419
>> yeah.

3101
01:35:28,419 --> 01:35:31,419
We're talking about the utility

3102
01:35:32,107 --> 01:35:34,460
rates and other fees and raw I

3103
01:35:34,460 --> 01:35:35,327
mean people have a tax burden

3104
01:35:35,327 --> 01:35:35,544
and a tax burden is not just

3105
01:35:35,544 --> 01:35:37,544
the military.

3106
01:35:39,310 --> 01:35:39,648
We continue to hear this

3107
01:35:39,648 --> 01:35:42,480
misinformation of a military

3108
01:35:43,335 --> 01:35:45,688
kind of like it that some some

3109
01:35:45,688 --> 01:35:48,880
kind of a benchmark.

3110
01:35:50,109 --> 01:35:50,959
And again, I, I, I would ask

3111
01:35:50,959 --> 01:35:53,111
the the any of the directors

3112
01:35:53,111 --> 01:35:56,111
and literacy manager I'm sure

3113
01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:57,633
you'll jump in is it accurate

3114
01:35:57,633 --> 01:35:58,367
that there are cities with

3115
01:35:58,367 --> 01:36:00,920
higher millage rates that have

3116
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,320
smaller budgets, maybe even

3117
01:36:04,590 --> 01:36:05,223
fewer fees that would actually

3118
01:36:05,223 --> 01:36:08,223
place less of a financial

3119
01:36:11,781 --> 01:36:12,114
burden on their taxpayers

3120
01:36:12,114 --> 01:36:12,698
?

3121
01:36:12,698 --> 01:36:15,698
I didn't provide those numbers.

3122
01:36:15,967 --> 01:36:18,967
I in several county no.

3123
01:36:20,380 --> 01:36:20,234
From comparable no I don't

3124
01:36:20,234 --> 01:36:21,600
know.

3125
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,600
I mean he went across 90

3126
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,270
communities and you know, or

3127
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:27,262
nine counties I don't know what

3128
01:36:27,262 --> 01:36:30,262
the individual breakdown that I

3129
01:36:30,932 --> 01:36:31,784
think what you're saying paul,

3130
01:36:31,784 --> 01:36:34,453
is that 80% of our population

3131
01:36:34,453 --> 01:36:37,453
or 80% is is residential and

3132
01:36:37,923 --> 01:36:38,774
20% or so is commercial.

3133
01:36:38,774 --> 01:36:39,324
And so the major bearings of

3134
01:36:39,324 --> 01:36:42,177
the expenses on the residential

3135
01:36:42,177 --> 01:36:42,845
is is that what you're saying?

3136
01:36:42,845 --> 01:36:43,696
Well, what I'm what I'm

3137
01:36:43,696 --> 01:36:46,148
actually saying is that it is a

3138
01:36:46,148 --> 01:36:49,100
false narrative to say that

3139
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:49,769
just the military remaining

3140
01:36:49,769 --> 01:36:52,210
flat from one year to the next

3141
01:36:52,210 --> 01:36:52,254
reflects on the tax burden of

3142
01:36:52,254 --> 01:36:52,971
the residents.

3143
01:36:52,971 --> 01:36:55,971
And I think that that's

3144
01:36:56,420 --> 01:36:56,576
intellectually dishonest.

3145
01:36:56,576 --> 01:36:58,976
And we've heard statements

3146
01:37:00,450 --> 01:37:00,580
like, you know, nonsense about

3147
01:37:00,580 --> 01:37:03,580
fiscal conservatism or not, if

3148
01:37:04,150 --> 01:37:07,750
we adopt a flat millage rate

3149
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:08,771
according to this budget.

3150
01:37:08,771 --> 01:37:12,225
but at the same time our

3151
01:37:12,225 --> 01:37:13,920
property tax collections which

3152
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,328
are over half $1 million at at

3153
01:37:15,328 --> 01:37:17,728
this point under florida's

3154
01:37:19,399 --> 01:37:20,249
truth in millage law, the trim

3155
01:37:20,249 --> 01:37:23,302
law is still considered a tax

3156
01:37:23,302 --> 01:37:25,702
increase legally speaking, yes.

3157
01:37:27,173 --> 01:37:29,173
Okay.

3158
01:37:30,442 --> 01:37:34,420
So having said that, you know,

3159
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:34,531
we've had some nice

3160
01:37:34,531 --> 01:37:36,531
conversations and questions

3161
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,717
that have been asked about

3162
01:37:38,717 --> 01:37:41,717
about what we're spending and

3163
01:37:42,505 --> 01:37:42,689
and the revenue that we're

3164
01:37:42,689 --> 01:37:44,689
receiving.

3165
01:37:45,740 --> 01:37:45,492
And that's a good thing that

3166
01:37:45,492 --> 01:37:47,492
we're having these

3167
01:37:48,962 --> 01:37:49,813
conversations I'd like to bring

3168
01:37:49,813 --> 01:37:53,413
up at least three items that

3169
01:37:53,566 --> 01:37:57,166
that we can we can discuss.

3170
01:37:57,353 --> 01:37:57,904
I would I would suggest for

3171
01:37:57,904 --> 01:38:00,904
removal from the actual budget,

3172
01:38:01,474 --> 01:38:02,125
although there are millions of

3173
01:38:02,125 --> 01:38:05,595
dollars in the in the budget

3174
01:38:05,595 --> 01:38:09,195
that could be trimmed to at

3175
01:38:09,349 --> 01:38:10,990
least come in lower considering

3176
01:38:10,990 --> 01:38:13,169
that we're not only asking our

3177
01:38:13,169 --> 01:38:13,920
residents for a tax increase,

3178
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,290
but then we've also just rolled

3179
01:38:17,290 --> 01:38:17,807
past a utility rate increase

3180
01:38:17,807 --> 01:38:20,207
after raising garbage fees

3181
01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:21,111
before that any property tax

3182
01:38:21,111 --> 01:38:21,328
millage increase the year

3183
01:38:21,328 --> 01:38:23,328
before that.

3184
01:38:24,714 --> 01:38:25,349
So I mean we've you know, we

3185
01:38:25,349 --> 01:38:28,349
continue to increase the tax

3186
01:38:28,401 --> 01:38:30,401
burden on residents.

3187
01:38:32,105 --> 01:38:32,922
>> you know, there's there's

3188
01:38:32,922 --> 01:38:33,790
there's a a deeper issue that

3189
01:38:33,790 --> 01:38:36,743
that that we would need to

3190
01:38:36,743 --> 01:38:37,176
confront and one that that

3191
01:38:37,176 --> 01:38:39,176
really transcends individual

3192
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:40,797
line items and a lot of it is

3193
01:38:40,797 --> 01:38:43,850
what the omissions are in the

3194
01:38:43,850 --> 01:38:46,850
budget I've heard now multiple

3195
01:38:47,503 --> 01:38:50,503
times today said that this

3196
01:38:51,391 --> 01:38:52,308
budget has omissions in it.

3197
01:38:52,308 --> 01:38:52,526
There are items that are not in

3198
01:38:52,526 --> 01:38:54,526
this budget.

3199
01:38:55,712 --> 01:38:56,146
They do not tell the full story

3200
01:38:56,146 --> 01:38:58,546
of what we're actually

3201
01:38:59,716 --> 01:39:00,484
inevitably going to spend in

3202
01:39:00,484 --> 01:39:00,634
the next year and in the coming

3203
01:39:00,634 --> 01:39:02,634
years.

3204
01:39:02,836 --> 01:39:03,453
So we don't have that picture

3205
01:39:03,453 --> 01:39:03,987
based on this budget and I

3206
01:39:03,987 --> 01:39:06,740
understand this budget is not

3207
01:39:06,740 --> 01:39:09,426
going to go into the future

3208
01:39:09,426 --> 01:39:09,943
years, but it does go into the

3209
01:39:09,943 --> 01:39:12,343
current fiscal year which

3210
01:39:13,597 --> 01:39:14,264
starts in OCTOBER.

3211
01:39:14,264 --> 01:39:14,597
There are important costs that

3212
01:39:14,597 --> 01:39:16,597
are being deferred.

3213
01:39:17,968 --> 01:39:18,618
I don't want to say ignored,

3214
01:39:18,618 --> 01:39:19,252
but you know, we're not hearing

3215
01:39:19,252 --> 01:39:20,704
that they're going to be

3216
01:39:20,704 --> 01:39:23,704
happening there might be budget

3217
01:39:24,657 --> 01:39:25,209
amendments coming in in the

3218
01:39:25,209 --> 01:39:27,978
following in the coming year.

3219
01:39:27,978 --> 01:39:28,629
Do we have an actual dollar

3220
01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:31,781
amount of how much is not

3221
01:39:31,781 --> 01:39:32,449
included in this budget that

3222
01:39:32,449 --> 01:39:35,518
we're going to have to come

3223
01:39:35,518 --> 01:39:38,789
back as a body in the next

3224
01:39:38,789 --> 01:39:39,522
fiscal year to add usually

3225
01:39:39,522 --> 01:39:42,593
under the premise of if we

3226
01:39:42,593 --> 01:39:43,226
don't pass it, something

3227
01:39:43,226 --> 01:39:46,226
horrible is going to happen.

3228
01:39:46,813 --> 01:39:47,347
How much are is not in this

3229
01:39:47,347 --> 01:39:50,347
budget like a dollar amount.

3230
01:39:50,835 --> 01:39:51,685
>> so I would say that the

3231
01:39:51,685 --> 01:39:55,560
budget accounts for all of the

3232
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,456
anticipated expenses with the

3233
01:39:57,824 --> 01:39:58,459
caveat as was stated by our

3234
01:39:58,459 --> 01:39:59,193
director of public works and

3235
01:39:59,193 --> 01:40:01,829
utilities that it would be

3236
01:40:01,829 --> 01:40:02,162
premature and frankly

3237
01:40:02,162 --> 01:40:04,162
irresponsible to make

3238
01:40:05,732 --> 01:40:06,650
assumptions based on the storm

3239
01:40:06,650 --> 01:40:09,650
water budget, on personnel and

3240
01:40:10,321 --> 01:40:10,854
expenses and projects prior to

3241
01:40:10,854 --> 01:40:13,254
the presentation of the

3242
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,800
committee on $1.5 million

3243
01:40:18,679 --> 01:40:21,790
assessment that's being ongoing

3244
01:40:21,665 --> 01:40:22,416
now for a year and a half for

3245
01:40:22,416 --> 01:40:22,750
us to come up and make

3246
01:40:22,750 --> 01:40:24,750
assumptions and just

3247
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:26,553
arbitrarily say we need x

3248
01:40:26,553 --> 01:40:27,305
amount of people in this

3249
01:40:27,305 --> 01:40:30,305
budget, the prudent thing would

3250
01:40:30,474 --> 01:40:31,124
be to wait for that study as

3251
01:40:31,124 --> 01:40:32,259
was indicated, which is going

3252
01:40:32,259 --> 01:40:35,859
to be presented in the first

3253
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:36,997
meeting OCTOBER at the latest,

3254
01:40:36,997 --> 01:40:39,851
will then tie into ralph us

3255
01:40:39,851 --> 01:40:40,201
rate study which is an

3256
01:40:40,201 --> 01:40:40,918
extremely comprehensive model

3257
01:40:40,918 --> 01:40:43,918
to determine what rates are

3258
01:40:44,404 --> 01:40:44,955
needed in order to address it

3259
01:40:44,955 --> 01:40:45,389
and then have the bigger

3260
01:40:45,389 --> 01:40:47,789
conversation with you folks,

3261
01:40:48,250 --> 01:40:48,575
the commissioners some

3262
01:40:48,575 --> 01:40:49,126
decisions that are going to

3263
01:40:49,126 --> 01:40:51,879
have to be made around

3264
01:40:51,879 --> 01:40:52,512
maintenance of private ponds

3265
01:40:52,512 --> 01:40:53,280
and you know, the like.

3266
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,133
That's just one piece of it.

3267
01:40:55,133 --> 01:40:55,782
So I would say this budget the

3268
01:40:55,782 --> 01:40:58,752
only thing that we be looking

3269
01:40:58,752 --> 01:40:59,720
at is from a budget amendment

3270
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:00,454
as far as you know, looking to

3271
01:41:00,454 --> 01:41:03,900
increase would be the storm

3272
01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:03,641
water.

3273
01:41:03,641 --> 01:41:04,750
When you're talking about

3274
01:41:04,750 --> 01:41:06,475
amendments that's we've had

3275
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:07,762
this conversation I think one

3276
01:41:07,762 --> 01:41:10,514
of the only municipalities and

3277
01:41:10,514 --> 01:41:11,165
frankly archaic is that, you

3278
01:41:11,165 --> 01:41:14,340
know, we don't have control I

3279
01:41:14,340 --> 01:41:14,452
don't have control at the at

3280
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:15,403
the fund level.

3281
01:41:15,403 --> 01:41:18,573
Our budget is as you'll you

3282
01:41:18,573 --> 01:41:19,223
know, as you see presented

3283
01:41:19,223 --> 01:41:22,223
before you as a department

3284
01:41:22,259 --> 01:41:22,693
level control extremely

3285
01:41:22,693 --> 01:41:23,227
inefficient and not very

3286
01:41:23,227 --> 01:41:25,627
effective, which means that

3287
01:41:25,696 --> 01:41:26,364
needs to come back for me to

3288
01:41:26,364 --> 01:41:29,316
sit here and tell you today.

3289
01:41:29,316 --> 01:41:29,734
Absolutely they'll be budget

3290
01:41:29,734 --> 01:41:32,103
transfers and budget amendments

3291
01:41:32,103 --> 01:41:32,737
that will come back to you

3292
01:41:32,737 --> 01:41:33,187
because that's the way we're

3293
01:41:33,187 --> 01:41:33,637
structured and the way we're

3294
01:41:33,637 --> 01:41:36,370
set up to do.

3295
01:41:36,290 --> 01:41:36,587
That's not that's reallocation

3296
01:41:36,587 --> 01:41:38,587
of money.

3297
01:41:40,178 --> 01:41:40,728
We're looking at, you know, 18

3298
01:41:40,728 --> 01:41:43,365
months of planning we could

3299
01:41:43,365 --> 01:41:43,814
never possibly project where

3300
01:41:43,814 --> 01:41:46,214
our priorities are any

3301
01:41:47,468 --> 01:41:48,236
particular budget year.

3302
01:41:48,236 --> 01:41:50,387
In a similar analogy, if you

3303
01:41:50,387 --> 01:41:50,939
young you know, as a homeowner

3304
01:41:50,939 --> 01:41:53,939
would have if you your

3305
01:41:54,910 --> 01:41:54,725
priorities shift and your

3306
01:41:54,725 --> 01:41:57,725
budgeted this year to replace

3307
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:58,847
your ac unit and your roof goes

3308
01:41:58,847 --> 01:41:59,414
you've got to shift priorities

3309
01:41:59,414 --> 01:42:00,265
well you need to move that

3310
01:42:00,265 --> 01:42:02,817
money to cover your roof and

3311
01:42:02,817 --> 01:42:03,490
that's what that's what we do

3312
01:42:03,490 --> 01:42:05,490
here.

3313
01:42:06,337 --> 01:42:07,710
So you know, as a budget total

3314
01:42:07,710 --> 01:42:09,424
as a bottom line budget, no,

3315
01:42:09,424 --> 01:42:10,141
there'll be no change by

3316
01:42:10,141 --> 01:42:12,541
department then and priorities

3317
01:42:13,595 --> 01:42:15,995
absolutely and no different

3318
01:42:17,365 --> 01:42:17,916
than any government budget,

3319
01:42:17,916 --> 01:42:18,532
especially more so here because

3320
01:42:18,532 --> 01:42:20,932
the commission has approved

3321
01:42:21,903 --> 01:42:24,539
those outside of the department

3322
01:42:24,539 --> 01:42:25,723
level budget.

3323
01:42:25,723 --> 01:42:29,194
>> so so at this point any any

3324
01:42:29,194 --> 01:42:32,781
items that we were to remove

3325
01:42:32,781 --> 01:42:35,434
would just go back to our

3326
01:42:35,434 --> 01:42:35,850
general fund, call it savings

3327
01:42:35,850 --> 01:42:36,818
if you will.

3328
01:42:36,818 --> 01:42:39,887
So we had to prioritize in the

3329
01:42:39,887 --> 01:42:40,438
future replacing the ac versus

3330
01:42:40,438 --> 01:42:43,438
the roof like your example

3331
01:42:43,591 --> 01:42:44,125
states, we would have more

3332
01:42:44,125 --> 01:42:44,759
money for that because

3333
01:42:44,759 --> 01:42:47,759
obviously the debt service is

3334
01:42:47,796 --> 01:42:48,346
already there.

3335
01:42:48,346 --> 01:42:48,847
There's some expenses we

3336
01:42:48,847 --> 01:42:49,580
already have to have there's

3337
01:42:49,580 --> 01:42:51,950
some there's some items that

3338
01:42:51,950 --> 01:42:54,950
cannot move and obviously, you

3339
01:42:55,503 --> 01:42:56,540
know, public safety utilities,

3340
01:42:56,540 --> 01:42:58,707
public works those are core

3341
01:42:58,707 --> 01:42:59,574
functions of government.

3342
01:42:59,574 --> 01:43:02,845
But there are a lot of items

3343
01:43:02,845 --> 01:43:03,278
that are here in contained that

3344
01:43:03,278 --> 01:43:03,478
are not functions of

3345
01:43:03,478 --> 01:43:05,478
government.

3346
01:43:06,148 --> 01:43:09,148
They're there, you know, merely

3347
01:43:09,434 --> 01:43:10,252
they are for for our own you

3348
01:43:10,252 --> 01:43:12,652
know, entertainment, if you

3349
01:43:13,689 --> 01:43:14,890
will.

3350
01:43:14,890 --> 01:43:17,250
is it is it fair to say that if

3351
01:43:17,250 --> 01:43:20,250
we went through the budget

3352
01:43:20,896 --> 01:43:23,296
nicely and started trimming

3353
01:43:24,650 --> 01:43:25,283
items, we would probably have

3354
01:43:25,283 --> 01:43:28,283
more money for other priorities

3355
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:29,821
down the line that we MAY have

3356
01:43:29,821 --> 01:43:33,208
to vote on in the coming year

3357
01:43:33,208 --> 01:43:33,942
any any money, any expenditures

3358
01:43:33,942 --> 01:43:36,395
that aren't spent would close

3359
01:43:36,395 --> 01:43:39,995
out to yeah, to fund balance.

3360
01:43:40,810 --> 01:43:40,732
That's an accurate statement.

3361
01:43:40,732 --> 01:43:43,732
The question of whether it's

3362
01:43:43,885 --> 01:43:44,320
needed or not is a bigger

3363
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,530
conversation because I don't

3364
01:43:45,530 --> 01:43:47,106
know what in particular you're

3365
01:43:47,106 --> 01:43:47,957
referencing but the budget

3366
01:43:47,957 --> 01:43:51,109
that's proposed we feel is the

3367
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:51,726
budget that's needed to

3368
01:43:51,726 --> 01:43:54,126
maintain services in our

3369
01:43:55,397 --> 01:43:58,397
operations if we're, you know,

3370
01:43:59,680 --> 01:43:59,919
nickel and diming a supply item

3371
01:43:59,919 --> 01:44:02,587
in a particular budget and you

3372
01:44:02,587 --> 01:44:05,357
know, the commission feels like

3373
01:44:05,357 --> 01:44:05,791
we need to now instead of 500,

3374
01:44:05,791 --> 01:44:06,642
it should be $250.

3375
01:44:06,642 --> 01:44:09,178
I mean that's the commission's

3376
01:44:09,178 --> 01:44:09,344
prerogative to adopt the

3377
01:44:09,344 --> 01:44:09,945
budget.

3378
01:44:09,945 --> 01:44:12,945
This is the proposed budget

3379
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:13,866
that is being recommended and

3380
01:44:13,866 --> 01:44:17,135
we feel we need to run and

3381
01:44:17,135 --> 01:44:17,570
operate this city and I can

3382
01:44:17,570 --> 01:44:19,970
appreciate you attempting to

3383
01:44:21,540 --> 01:44:25,940
minimize the cuts by showing de

3384
01:44:25,940 --> 01:44:25,828
minimus expenses which clear is

3385
01:44:25,828 --> 01:44:28,228
not what I'm referencing

3386
01:44:29,598 --> 01:44:30,265
respectfully, you haven't said

3387
01:44:30,265 --> 01:44:32,918
what it is your reference so

3388
01:44:32,918 --> 01:44:33,552
well you know we're we're

3389
01:44:33,552 --> 01:44:34,102
should we start because it's

3390
01:44:34,102 --> 01:44:36,873
millions of dollars but let's

3391
01:44:36,873 --> 01:44:37,140
just let's just keep it simple

3392
01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:37,923
.

3393
01:44:37,923 --> 01:44:40,393
Let's just talk about and we

3394
01:44:40,393 --> 01:44:40,711
have a little bit of this

3395
01:44:40,711 --> 01:44:42,711
conversation.

3396
01:44:43,346 --> 01:44:45,746
There's a $75,000 expense for

3397
01:44:47,549 --> 01:44:48,284
the U.S. I think you better you

3398
01:44:48,284 --> 01:44:50,235
see I receives public funds and

3399
01:44:50,235 --> 01:44:50,887
has a very large university as

3400
01:44:50,887 --> 01:44:53,887
well, the largest footprints in

3401
01:44:54,440 --> 01:44:54,773
student populations on the face

3402
01:44:54,773 --> 01:44:56,773
of this planet.

3403
01:44:58,361 --> 01:44:58,911
Yet our city is asked to raise

3404
01:44:58,911 --> 01:45:01,911
taxes and increase the burden

3405
01:45:02,481 --> 01:45:05,434
on our residents to give the

3406
01:45:05,434 --> 01:45:07,434
ucf incubator 70 5000 without

3407
01:45:09,405 --> 01:45:13,500
any actual roi to the city.

3408
01:45:13,176 --> 01:45:14,260
That would be something very

3409
01:45:14,260 --> 01:45:14,627
simple that with just a pen

3410
01:45:14,627 --> 01:45:16,579
stroke this body could get and

3411
01:45:16,579 --> 01:45:19,448
say hey look, you know what?

3412
01:45:19,448 --> 01:45:19,782
Let's put that $75,000 back

3413
01:45:19,782 --> 01:45:21,782
into our coffers.

3414
01:45:22,969 --> 01:45:23,803
Let's keep it there in case we

3415
01:45:23,803 --> 01:45:24,654
do have a stormwater issue in

3416
01:45:24,654 --> 01:45:28,124
case we do have something that

3417
01:45:28,124 --> 01:45:30,359
comes up that that would be one

3418
01:45:30,359 --> 01:45:31,127
example.

3419
01:45:31,127 --> 01:45:34,397
And I mean there's there's many

3420
01:45:34,397 --> 01:45:35,248
in the budget like that but

3421
01:45:35,248 --> 01:45:37,266
that would be what I mean would

3422
01:45:37,266 --> 01:45:39,666
would this body consider

3423
01:45:40,536 --> 01:45:41,388
returning that 75,000 and

3424
01:45:41,388 --> 01:45:44,857
moving and moving on from that

3425
01:45:44,857 --> 01:45:47,857
expense that the city has?

3426
01:45:48,628 --> 01:45:48,838
>> can I respond to that,

3427
01:45:48,838 --> 01:45:49,512
mayor?

3428
01:45:49,512 --> 01:45:50,247
I believe we have an agreement

3429
01:45:50,247 --> 01:45:52,650
and we're still in that

3430
01:45:52,650 --> 01:45:52,732
agreement.

3431
01:45:52,732 --> 01:45:53,583
Third year signed last year,

3432
01:45:53,583 --> 01:45:55,935
three year contract so we can

3433
01:45:55,935 --> 01:45:56,850
have that conversation at a

3434
01:45:56,850 --> 01:45:56,702
fair.

3435
01:45:56,702 --> 01:45:58,972
We can have that conversation.

3436
01:45:58,972 --> 01:45:59,689
But we can't do that this year.

3437
01:45:59,689 --> 01:46:02,542
>> yes, we can't because that

3438
01:46:02,542 --> 01:46:03,192
agreement is due to funding and

3439
01:46:03,192 --> 01:46:06,363
it's subject to funding and I

3440
01:46:06,363 --> 01:46:06,996
am suggesting that we do not

3441
01:46:06,996 --> 01:46:07,314
find that line item.

3442
01:46:07,314 --> 01:46:07,547
>> okay.

3443
01:46:07,547 --> 01:46:09,547
Yeah.

3444
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:11,250
That you've been heard.

3445
01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:13,250
>> all right.

3446
01:46:14,737 --> 01:46:18,408
So then let's let's move on to

3447
01:46:18,408 --> 01:46:18,715
to something that is relatively

3448
01:46:18,715 --> 01:46:19,442
egregious.

3449
01:46:19,442 --> 01:46:20,293
I don't know which one I want

3450
01:46:20,293 --> 01:46:21,928
to start with first if I want

3451
01:46:21,928 --> 01:46:25,398
to start with the amount of

3452
01:46:25,398 --> 01:46:26,466
spending in one department or

3453
01:46:26,466 --> 01:46:29,719
if we just want to kind of keep

3454
01:46:29,719 --> 01:46:30,703
it amongst ourselves up here.

3455
01:46:30,703 --> 01:46:32,856
I think many of you know that I

3456
01:46:32,856 --> 01:46:33,390
am a presidential level alumni

3457
01:46:33,390 --> 01:46:34,400
of leadership seven all very

3458
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,893
proud to have gone through

3459
01:46:36,893 --> 01:46:37,443
leadership several when I went

3460
01:46:37,443 --> 01:46:39,843
through leadership summit, all

3461
01:46:41,114 --> 01:46:44,701
that was an expense that I took

3462
01:46:44,701 --> 01:46:45,335
on as a private business owner

3463
01:46:45,335 --> 01:46:48,335
in seminole county with a

3464
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,474
national tax practice because I

3465
01:46:51,474 --> 01:46:51,761
wanted to increase my companies

3466
01:46:51,761 --> 01:46:53,761
roi.

3467
01:46:54,427 --> 01:46:55,178
I looked at that tuition which

3468
01:46:55,178 --> 01:46:58,178
is about $3,500 as a personal

3469
01:46:59,850 --> 01:47:00,240
investment into myself and my

3470
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,240
company.

3471
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:03,570
>> it is it is meant to be

3472
01:47:03,570 --> 01:47:05,970
leadership development for the

3473
01:47:06,824 --> 01:47:07,557
private sector.

3474
01:47:07,557 --> 01:47:09,957
Obviously like most functions

3475
01:47:10,810 --> 01:47:11,478
that operate within these

3476
01:47:11,478 --> 01:47:14,478
chambers of commerce, they tend

3477
01:47:15,233 --> 01:47:18,685
to also get your nonprofits in

3478
01:47:18,685 --> 01:47:18,885
and government representatives

3479
01:47:18,885 --> 01:47:19,536
.

3480
01:47:19,536 --> 01:47:22,536
There's a very big difference

3481
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,600
between someone who works for

3482
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:26,810
the city, a city staff, you

3483
01:47:26,810 --> 01:47:29,810
know, for example yourself, MR.

3484
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:30,447
City manager, my classmate

3485
01:47:30,447 --> 01:47:32,447
turlock.

3486
01:47:32,833 --> 01:47:33,267
We went through leadership

3487
01:47:33,267 --> 01:47:34,100
summit all together.

3488
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:37,100
Sort of big difference between

3489
01:47:40,707 --> 01:47:41,641
someone who is long term with

3490
01:47:41,641 --> 01:47:45,241
the city versus somebody who is

3491
01:47:45,311 --> 01:47:46,864
elected and subject to

3492
01:47:46,864 --> 01:47:49,264
obviously the whims of

3493
01:47:50,917 --> 01:47:51,885
democracy.

3494
01:47:51,885 --> 01:47:54,121
>> the the the the use of

3495
01:47:54,121 --> 01:47:54,955
taxpayer dollars.

3496
01:47:54,955 --> 01:47:57,355
We're talking about $3,500 a

3497
01:47:58,542 --> 01:48:01,542
year for elected officials, you

3498
01:48:02,512 --> 01:48:02,805
know, comparable appointees, if

3499
01:48:02,805 --> 01:48:03,497
you will.

3500
01:48:03,497 --> 01:48:05,933
>> but political, you know, for

3501
01:48:05,933 --> 01:48:06,366
political well elected

3502
01:48:06,366 --> 01:48:08,766
officials to attend leadership

3503
01:48:09,220 --> 01:48:11,555
center on the $3,500 tuition

3504
01:48:11,555 --> 01:48:13,955
that represents 30% increase in

3505
01:48:15,225 --> 01:48:15,659
the commissioners salaries and

3506
01:48:15,659 --> 01:48:16,176
annual compensation that look,

3507
01:48:16,176 --> 01:48:18,176
that's a disproportionate

3508
01:48:19,230 --> 01:48:20,800
fringe benefit.

3509
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,667
So we could say it's minimal.

3510
01:48:23,667 --> 01:48:24,501
We could say, you know, de

3511
01:48:24,501 --> 01:48:27,588
minimus like you were using the

3512
01:48:27,588 --> 01:48:30,340
example of 200 at the expense

3513
01:48:30,340 --> 01:48:30,690
I'm talking about $3,500 to

3514
01:48:30,690 --> 01:48:32,690
benefit somebodies political

3515
01:48:34,444 --> 01:48:35,196
career, not to actually bring a

3516
01:48:35,196 --> 01:48:37,748
benefit to the city, a tangible

3517
01:48:37,748 --> 01:48:38,515
again or why as a business

3518
01:48:38,515 --> 01:48:41,369
owner I said how much you might

3519
01:48:41,369 --> 01:48:42,452
spending on leadership seminar?

3520
01:48:42,452 --> 01:48:45,723
How much do I intend to get in

3521
01:48:45,723 --> 01:48:46,573
in order to my company for that

3522
01:48:46,573 --> 01:48:48,725
dollar that I invested and I

3523
01:48:48,725 --> 01:48:51,725
did I generate clientele from

3524
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:52,746
that because that was what my

3525
01:48:52,746 --> 01:48:52,913
intention was in doing the

3526
01:48:52,913 --> 01:48:54,913
program.

3527
01:48:56,517 --> 01:48:57,368
Like any other marketing

3528
01:48:57,368 --> 01:49:00,421
program, this is not a required

3529
01:49:00,421 --> 01:49:01,172
training.

3530
01:49:01,172 --> 01:49:03,207
It's not tied to any statutory

3531
01:49:03,207 --> 01:49:04,740
or governance mandate.

3532
01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:07,674
The optics and ethics you know,

3533
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:11,532
here are you know, I can go on

3534
01:49:11,532 --> 01:49:11,983
with that but city funds should

3535
01:49:11,983 --> 01:49:12,133
not be subsidizing personal

3536
01:49:12,133 --> 01:49:14,133
resume

3537
01:49:15,136 --> 01:49:15,653
building or networking

3538
01:49:15,653 --> 01:49:17,653
opportunities for politicians.

3539
01:49:18,522 --> 01:49:19,390
Obviously if an elected

3540
01:49:19,390 --> 01:49:19,590
official believes that that's

3541
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:22,590
going to provide them a

3542
01:49:22,643 --> 01:49:23,311
benefit, they are more than

3543
01:49:23,311 --> 01:49:24,450
welcome to, you know, pull out

3544
01:49:24,450 --> 01:49:26,898
their american express card and

3545
01:49:26,898 --> 01:49:27,548
pay leadership seminar the

3546
01:49:27,548 --> 01:49:30,618
tuition for that but not the

3547
01:49:30,618 --> 01:49:31,452
taxpayers of winter springs who

3548
01:49:31,452 --> 01:49:34,939
already have a very large per

3549
01:49:34,939 --> 01:49:38,539
capita tax burden based on on

3550
01:49:38,809 --> 01:49:42,409
on our population size and size

3551
01:49:42,697 --> 01:49:42,963
of our budget to have to go on

3552
01:49:42,963 --> 01:49:43,664
.

3553
01:49:43,664 --> 01:49:44,516
We actually were going to be

3554
01:49:44,516 --> 01:49:46,951
out of time here and want

3555
01:49:46,951 --> 01:49:47,685
commissioner bruce to be able

3556
01:49:47,685 --> 01:49:48,200
to speak to or we've got about

3557
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,637
eight minutes left.

3558
01:49:49,637 --> 01:49:50,788
Your points made.

3559
01:49:50,788 --> 01:49:53,841
You do not believe we should be

3560
01:49:53,841 --> 01:49:55,841
letting elected officials

3561
01:49:57,812 --> 01:49:58,610
participate in this year alone

3562
01:49:58,610 --> 01:50:00,610
class.

3563
01:50:01,700 --> 01:50:01,968
We can schedule that we can

3564
01:50:01,968 --> 01:50:02,684
discuss it.

3565
01:50:02,684 --> 01:50:05,553
I wouldn't be opposed to maybe

3566
01:50:05,553 --> 01:50:06,387
setting some policies on it,

3567
01:50:06,387 --> 01:50:09,257
but but at this point you've

3568
01:50:09,257 --> 01:50:10,208
been hurt and this is a yes.

3569
01:50:10,208 --> 01:50:13,294
I think maybe that might even

3570
01:50:13,294 --> 01:50:13,828
be elected maybe to make a

3571
01:50:13,828 --> 01:50:16,828
motion to have that removed

3572
01:50:16,882 --> 01:50:17,716
from the budget.

3573
01:50:17,716 --> 01:50:17,865
If there's a second, we can go

3574
01:50:17,865 --> 01:50:18,132
there.

3575
01:50:18,132 --> 01:50:18,550
Oh, that's right.

3576
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:20,550
We're not voting.

3577
01:50:21,303 --> 01:50:21,953
It's a workshop.

3578
01:50:21,953 --> 01:50:22,136
So the workshop and the

3579
01:50:22,136 --> 01:50:23,804
workshop.

3580
01:50:23,804 --> 01:50:24,572
So you've been heard.

3581
01:50:24,572 --> 01:50:28,172
We're running out of time here.

3582
01:50:28,226 --> 01:50:28,777
Okay.

3583
01:50:28,777 --> 01:50:28,993
>> you've been hurt.

3584
01:50:28,993 --> 01:50:29,627
Very.

3585
01:50:29,627 --> 01:50:31,496
Can I just ask for a quick.

3586
01:50:31,496 --> 01:50:32,129
Yeah, I'm well, would you mind

3587
01:50:32,129 --> 01:50:35,129
putting all of those thoughts

3588
01:50:35,900 --> 01:50:36,451
down for for budget for people

3589
01:50:36,451 --> 01:50:37,301
and and discussing each of

3590
01:50:37,301 --> 01:50:38,920
those line items that you feel

3591
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:39,787
are unnecessary?

3592
01:50:39,787 --> 01:50:39,955
>> I think that would be really

3593
01:50:39,955 --> 01:50:40,221
helpful.

3594
01:50:40,221 --> 01:50:42,221
No, absolutely.

3595
01:50:43,525 --> 01:50:44,159
And I and I'd love to and we

3596
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:46,940
can have that robust discussion

3597
01:50:46,940 --> 01:50:46,978
on on many items.

3598
01:50:46,978 --> 01:50:50,132
But you know, I have I have

3599
01:50:50,132 --> 01:50:53,132
another that is quite egregious

3600
01:50:53,618 --> 01:50:54,452
as well and it goes more into

3601
01:50:54,452 --> 01:50:58,520
what the objectives would be of

3602
01:50:58,357 --> 01:50:58,623
some of the things that that

3603
01:50:58,623 --> 01:50:59,574
that we do.

3604
01:50:59,574 --> 01:51:02,100
And I and I really do want to

3605
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:05,100
raise serious concerns for the

3606
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:06,414
general public about the level

3607
01:51:06,414 --> 01:51:08,950
of spending that is allocated

3608
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:09,231
to the communications division

3609
01:51:09,231 --> 01:51:09,834
.

3610
01:51:09,834 --> 01:51:10,101
We pride ourselves in being a

3611
01:51:10,101 --> 01:51:12,101
bedroom community.

3612
01:51:13,121 --> 01:51:13,405
We have 90% residential

3613
01:51:13,405 --> 01:51:15,405
basically.

3614
01:51:16,107 --> 01:51:16,708
You know, we you know, the

3615
01:51:16,708 --> 01:51:17,142
mayor just gave us a whole

3616
01:51:17,142 --> 01:51:19,542
lecture about how fiscally

3617
01:51:19,811 --> 01:51:20,845
conservative we are in culture

3618
01:51:20,845 --> 01:51:24,432
,but yet, you know, as vocally

3619
01:51:24,432 --> 01:51:24,633
resistance we are the unchecked

3620
01:51:24,633 --> 01:51:25,400
development.

3621
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,753
You know, why are we spending

3622
01:51:27,753 --> 01:51:30,806
so much money to have a city

3623
01:51:30,806 --> 01:51:31,423
controlled narrative?

3624
01:51:31,423 --> 01:51:33,423
Because when government

3625
01:51:34,292 --> 01:51:34,726
messaging okay, of this

3626
01:51:34,726 --> 01:51:35,361
magnitude, we're talking about

3627
01:51:35,361 --> 01:51:38,213
some pretty serious dollars in

3628
01:51:38,213 --> 01:51:38,864
this budget.

3629
01:51:38,864 --> 01:51:39,381
You're starting to blur the

3630
01:51:39,381 --> 01:51:41,381
lines between public

3631
01:51:42,251 --> 01:51:42,434
information and public

3632
01:51:42,434 --> 01:51:43,101
relations.

3633
01:51:43,101 --> 01:51:46,101
And when taxpayer dollars are

3634
01:51:46,255 --> 01:51:46,972
used to shape perception

3635
01:51:46,972 --> 01:51:49,372
ultimately now we're talking

3636
01:51:50,141 --> 01:51:50,425
about something that

3637
01:51:50,425 --> 01:51:52,425
historically resembles

3638
01:51:54,212 --> 01:51:55,197
propaganda by definition.

3639
01:51:55,197 --> 01:51:58,267
And we can we can we can look

3640
01:51:58,267 --> 01:51:58,684
at the the definition itself,

3641
01:51:58,684 --> 01:52:01,840
you know, just simple

3642
01:52:01,337 --> 01:52:01,987
dictionary search there.

3643
01:52:01,987 --> 01:52:04,387
>> our current budget includes,

3644
01:52:05,457 --> 01:52:07,857
you know about $100,000 for

3645
01:52:08,794 --> 01:52:09,428
video production for pr

3646
01:52:09,428 --> 01:52:09,629
consulting, for rebranding

3647
01:52:09,629 --> 01:52:11,629
initiative.

3648
01:52:12,514 --> 01:52:12,665
So we're trying to rebrand our

3649
01:52:12,665 --> 01:52:14,665
city.

3650
01:52:16,401 --> 01:52:17,530
>> I guess we need pr

3651
01:52:17,530 --> 01:52:17,202
consultants to tell us how to

3652
01:52:17,202 --> 01:52:19,202
spin.

3653
01:52:20,756 --> 01:52:21,189
I mean, that's what it is a pr

3654
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:22,400
consultant, a spin doctor.

3655
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:23,359
>> and we're asking the

3656
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:25,759
taxpayers we're asking the

3657
01:52:26,946 --> 01:52:30,546
taxpayers to have in our budget

3658
01:52:31,417 --> 01:52:32,670
us pay for a depart meant that

3659
01:52:32,670 --> 01:52:35,537
is going to shape a narrative

3660
01:52:35,537 --> 01:52:36,172
to figure out how the people

3661
01:52:36,172 --> 01:52:38,407
should think these are not

3662
01:52:38,407 --> 01:52:39,750
essential services.

3663
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:42,750
They don't fix roads, they

3664
01:52:42,628 --> 01:52:43,179
don't improve drainage, they

3665
01:52:43,179 --> 01:52:46,132
don't make our residents any

3666
01:52:46,132 --> 01:52:46,882
safer basically it's literally

3667
01:52:46,882 --> 01:52:49,635
an expense to drive a narrative

3668
01:52:49,635 --> 01:52:52,788
and I mean just these three

3669
01:52:52,788 --> 01:52:55,788
alone, a 30% pay increase for

3670
01:52:56,458 --> 01:52:58,458
city commissioners funding

3671
01:53:00,829 --> 01:53:01,581
propaganda and on top of that,

3672
01:53:01,581 --> 01:53:04,750
you know, just just looking at

3673
01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:05,401
the deeper issues that are that

3674
01:53:05,401 --> 01:53:08,401
are involved not related to

3675
01:53:08,771 --> 01:53:11,340
public safety, you know, and

3676
01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:12,910
not getting a specific roi for

3677
01:53:12,910 --> 01:53:15,344
the city, for example, like the

3678
01:53:15,344 --> 01:53:15,878
incubator shows that the budget

3679
01:53:15,878 --> 01:53:18,278
still can be leader.

3680
01:53:19,748 --> 01:53:19,915
And I appreciate the city

3681
01:53:19,915 --> 01:53:21,915
manager.

3682
01:53:23,352 --> 01:53:24,420
>> I know what what what went

3683
01:53:24,420 --> 01:53:27,874
in to at least come in at where

3684
01:53:27,874 --> 01:53:28,757
that villages it's still a tax

3685
01:53:28,757 --> 01:53:30,910
increase but I get it and I see

3686
01:53:30,910 --> 01:53:31,444
where we're at as far as that

3687
01:53:31,444 --> 01:53:33,844
millage increase number not

3688
01:53:35,130 --> 01:53:35,882
going up but the tax burden on

3689
01:53:35,882 --> 01:53:38,851
the residents is going up and

3690
01:53:38,851 --> 01:53:39,368
we're asking them to fund a

3691
01:53:39,368 --> 01:53:41,368
fringe benefit for

3692
01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:44,210
commissioners $75,000, no roi

3693
01:53:45,691 --> 01:53:46,225
for the for the for the

3694
01:53:46,225 --> 01:53:48,625
incubator a an entire

3695
01:53:49,795 --> 01:53:52,195
department just for narrative

3696
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:53,332
that is just I mean it's

3697
01:53:53,332 --> 01:53:55,332
shocking honestly.

3698
01:53:56,752 --> 01:53:57,570
So I mean I think that there

3699
01:53:57,570 --> 01:53:57,704
are a lot of discussions to be

3700
01:53:57,704 --> 01:53:58,371
had.

3701
01:53:58,371 --> 01:54:00,740
I don't know how much of this

3702
01:54:00,740 --> 01:54:01,374
is going to make it into our

3703
01:54:01,374 --> 01:54:03,810
city commission agendas or what

3704
01:54:03,810 --> 01:54:04,527
have you.

3705
01:54:04,527 --> 01:54:04,994
But I definitely would like at

3706
01:54:04,994 --> 01:54:05,545
least to bring that to the

3707
01:54:05,545 --> 01:54:08,800
attention of the residents that

3708
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:08,748
there's a lot more in this

3709
01:54:08,748 --> 01:54:09,482
budget that would have to be

3710
01:54:09,482 --> 01:54:12,235
discussed and it's money that

3711
01:54:12,235 --> 01:54:12,869
could specifically go to public

3712
01:54:12,869 --> 01:54:15,269
safety, specifically go to

3713
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:16,890
utilities, specifically go to

3714
01:54:16,890 --> 01:54:19,890
public works, improve our parks

3715
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:20,744
and none of that that I just

3716
01:54:20,744 --> 01:54:21,244
described does that.

3717
01:54:21,244 --> 01:54:23,244
>> thank you, sir.

3718
01:54:24,113 --> 01:54:24,947
Thank you, commissioner bruce

3719
01:54:24,947 --> 01:54:27,183
carl robert, where do you see

3720
01:54:27,183 --> 01:54:27,934
pr in here?

3721
01:54:27,934 --> 01:54:29,903
>> because I didn't see that

3722
01:54:29,903 --> 01:54:34,103
it's in the it's in the budget

3723
01:54:34,774 --> 01:54:37,174
for the public comment

3724
01:54:41,481 --> 01:54:42,415
communication 45,000 is video

3725
01:54:42,415 --> 01:54:45,415
45,000 for video and how much

3726
01:54:45,585 --> 01:54:49,185
for pr public bond player now

3727
01:54:49,256 --> 01:54:49,504
does anyone know what pages is

3728
01:54:49,504 --> 01:54:50,240
on?

3729
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,440
I'm trying to find it for me.

3730
01:54:57,970 --> 01:54:59,970
Couldn't what's that

3731
01:54:59,282 --> 01:55:00,133
maybe is

3732
01:55:00,133 --> 01:55:03,403
center times on a crunch let's

3733
01:55:03,403 --> 01:55:05,803
assume that the commissioners

3734
01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:06,673
correct and it's 45,000 or

3735
01:55:06,673 --> 01:55:07,407
whatever that number was

3736
01:55:07,407 --> 01:55:09,576
$90,000 just in those expenses

3737
01:55:09,576 --> 01:55:12,576
that I earmarked 75,000 for the

3738
01:55:13,130 --> 01:55:13,463
incubator and another

3739
01:55:13,463 --> 01:55:15,863
undisclosed amount depending on

3740
01:55:17,334 --> 01:55:17,667
how many people go for class

3741
01:55:17,667 --> 01:55:19,667
36, 37, 38.

3742
01:55:21,521 --> 01:55:22,720
And so on.

3743
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:22,406
And commissioner bruce, you

3744
01:55:22,406 --> 01:55:24,406
have them recruitment.

3745
01:55:24,441 --> 01:55:25,208
So what is the question?

3746
01:55:25,208 --> 01:55:28,208
>> oh, I was just wondering

3747
01:55:28,262 --> 01:55:28,995
where this public relations

3748
01:55:28,995 --> 01:55:31,995
expense was because maybe we

3749
01:55:32,766 --> 01:55:36,353
can come back and then revisit

3750
01:55:36,353 --> 01:55:36,670
that, will find it and send it

3751
01:55:36,670 --> 01:55:38,670
out to everybody.

3752
01:55:39,556 --> 01:55:39,956
>> it just makes the point

3753
01:55:39,956 --> 01:55:40,173
yeah, right.

3754
01:55:40,173 --> 01:55:40,940
Yeah.

3755
01:55:40,940 --> 01:55:43,393
But if they had all the

3756
01:55:43,393 --> 01:55:45,793
financial numbers so okay,

3757
01:55:47,464 --> 01:55:51,640
other questions here then if we

3758
01:55:51,652 --> 01:55:52,385
are done I would ask for a ten

3759
01:55:52,385 --> 01:55:54,404
minute recess if that's okay

3760
01:55:54,404 --> 01:55:55,239
with everybody.

3761
01:55:55,239 --> 01:55:55,889
Do you have a problem with us

3762
01:55:55,889 --> 01:55:58,625
starting a couple of minutes

3763
01:55:58,625 --> 01:55:58,792
late for the commission

3764
01:55:58,792 --> 01:55:59,710
meeting?

3765
01:55:59,710 --> 01:56:02,862
I think in your book we are

3766
01:56:02,862 --> 01:56:03,980
supposed to public input,

3767
01:56:03,980 --> 01:56:03,413
aren't we?

3768
01:56:03,413 --> 01:56:05,413
That one?

3769
01:56:06,584 --> 01:56:07,334
Yeah, but it's an agenda item

3770
01:56:07,334 --> 01:56:07,551
on the agenda item and we

3771
01:56:07,551 --> 01:56:09,551
didn't change.

3772
01:56:10,404 --> 01:56:10,620
>> so you're marked differently

3773
01:56:10,620 --> 01:56:11,221
.

3774
01:56:11,221 --> 01:56:11,772
We will do that then.

3775
01:56:11,772 --> 01:56:13,290
Ladies and gentlemen, we'll

3776
01:56:13,290 --> 01:56:14,580
open this to public input.

3777
01:56:14,580 --> 01:56:14,224
This is specifically about the

3778
01:56:14,224 --> 01:56:16,224
budget.

3779
01:56:17,744 --> 01:56:20,798
We will then after public input

3780
01:56:20,798 --> 01:56:21,348
will take a ten minute recess,

3781
01:56:21,348 --> 01:56:24,348
will reopen and then there'll

3782
01:56:24,384 --> 01:56:25,253
be another public input.

3783
01:56:25,253 --> 01:56:28,253
This is specifically about the

3784
01:56:28,689 --> 01:56:29,456
budget workshop.

3785
01:56:29,456 --> 01:56:32,456
>> if you want louder more

3786
01:56:32,726 --> 01:56:32,943
comment on the budget workshop

3787
01:56:32,943 --> 01:56:33,810
.

3788
01:56:33,810 --> 01:56:33,961
>> I know right now is your

3789
01:56:33,961 --> 01:56:35,961
time.

3790
01:56:36,780 --> 01:56:37,398
Then we'll start the official

3791
01:56:37,398 --> 01:56:39,650
meeting of parks commission

3792
01:56:39,650 --> 01:56:42,500
meeting ten minutes later.

3793
01:56:46,423 --> 01:56:48,823
>> so anyone MR. Go

3794
01:56:50,745 --> 01:56:51,595
.

3795
01:56:51,595 --> 01:56:53,995
>> good evening art yellow 199

3796
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:54,781
and dana first I wanted to

3797
01:56:54,781 --> 01:56:57,635
start off by thanking and

3798
01:56:57,635 --> 01:56:58,680
congratulating the city

3799
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:00,468
manager, the directors that

3800
01:57:01,722 --> 01:57:02,560
gave the presentation asians,

3801
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,560
especially the finance

3802
01:57:05,643 --> 01:57:06,376
committee that did all the hard

3803
01:57:06,376 --> 01:57:09,947
work and the staff behind the

3804
01:57:09,947 --> 01:57:10,498
scenes and all my time sort of

3805
01:57:10,498 --> 01:57:12,898
attending these budget meetings

3806
01:57:13,734 --> 01:57:14,501
and listening to it.

3807
01:57:14,501 --> 01:57:15,190
>> this is probably the most

3808
01:57:15,190 --> 01:57:16,954
informative and best

3809
01:57:16,954 --> 01:57:19,354
presentations on the budget

3810
01:57:20,941 --> 01:57:21,492
that I've seen so I want to

3811
01:57:21,492 --> 01:57:24,492
thank everyone for that because

3812
01:57:24,745 --> 01:57:25,813
I very much appreciate it.

3813
01:57:25,813 --> 01:57:29,484
And I, I actually came here to

3814
01:57:29,484 --> 01:57:32,436
talk about a pension study that

3815
01:57:32,436 --> 01:57:35,436
was brought to the commission's

3816
01:57:36,223 --> 01:57:36,841
attention last MAY of 24 that

3817
01:57:36,841 --> 01:57:39,241
compared to seven cities

3818
01:57:40,545 --> 01:57:43,915
pension and with the county and

3819
01:57:43,915 --> 01:57:47,515
and the f iris regular class

3820
01:57:47,902 --> 01:57:48,403
and I was happy to hear both

3821
01:57:48,403 --> 01:57:50,403
commissioner resnick and

3822
01:57:51,872 --> 01:57:52,623
commissioner caruso ask about

3823
01:57:52,623 --> 01:57:54,876
that because I think we need to

3824
01:57:54,876 --> 01:57:55,104
take a look at our city

3825
01:57:55,104 --> 01:57:57,104
pension.

3826
01:57:58,680 --> 01:57:59,514
>> we've done a lot on salaries

3827
01:57:59,514 --> 01:58:02,514
and our pension according to

3828
01:58:03,485 --> 01:58:04,102
this study anyway, I think you

3829
01:58:04,102 --> 01:58:06,530
ought to take another look at

3830
01:58:06,530 --> 01:58:06,587
it and we can do better because

3831
01:58:06,587 --> 01:58:08,987
ultimately we worry about

3832
01:58:10,570 --> 01:58:10,592
recruitment of the best people

3833
01:58:10,592 --> 01:58:13,592
and retaining the best people.

3834
01:58:14,780 --> 01:58:14,846
And part of that once we get

3835
01:58:14,846 --> 01:58:17,916
the best people to the city, we

3836
01:58:17,916 --> 01:58:18,867
want to keep them here.

3837
01:58:18,867 --> 01:58:22,336
So we've got the salaries under

3838
01:58:22,336 --> 01:58:22,599
control now we're in the

3839
01:58:22,599 --> 01:58:22,938
ballpark.

3840
01:58:22,938 --> 01:58:23,905
We're very competitive there.

3841
01:58:23,905 --> 01:58:26,257
But when you look at the

3842
01:58:26,257 --> 01:58:27,992
pension, we're not so

3843
01:58:27,992 --> 01:58:28,426
conceivably we can spend two

3844
01:58:28,426 --> 01:58:28,860
years training of police

3845
01:58:28,860 --> 01:58:31,260
officer hypothetically and the

3846
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:32,681
next thing you know they go to

3847
01:58:32,681 --> 01:58:35,681
a sister city because their

3848
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:36,918
pension plan is a lot better.

3849
01:58:36,918 --> 01:58:40,171
So I think we really need to

3850
01:58:40,171 --> 01:58:40,939
look at that.

3851
01:58:40,939 --> 01:58:43,191
>> and the thing that surprised

3852
01:58:43,191 --> 01:58:46,791
me on that is that after 30

3853
01:58:47,278 --> 01:58:48,290
years you continue to put into

3854
01:58:48,290 --> 01:58:48,980
the pension and if you want to

3855
01:58:48,980 --> 01:58:51,449
stay in the city you don't gain

3856
01:58:51,449 --> 01:58:51,983
anything by making that a

3857
01:58:51,983 --> 01:58:54,983
yearly input to the pension.

3858
01:58:55,470 --> 01:58:56,120
So if you have great people you

3859
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:56,571
want to keep them around, it's

3860
01:58:56,571 --> 01:58:58,971
really costing them money.

3861
01:58:59,641 --> 01:59:02,210
So we need to look at that.

3862
01:59:02,210 --> 01:59:03,610
And I also mentioned our cost

3863
01:59:03,610 --> 01:59:06,615
of living allowance is zero in

3864
01:59:06,615 --> 01:59:09,615
there and I think everybody

3865
01:59:09,684 --> 01:59:10,235
else's well, if you look at

3866
01:59:10,235 --> 01:59:13,235
this study you'll see it.

3867
01:59:13,321 --> 01:59:14,880
I want to thank everybody.

3868
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:17,359
It was a great discussion and

3869
01:59:17,359 --> 01:59:17,675
like I and I appreciate it.

3870
01:59:17,675 --> 01:59:19,675
Thank you.

3871
01:59:21,446 --> 01:59:22,113
Thank you, MR. Gallo, anyone

3872
01:59:22,113 --> 01:59:25,713
else that would like to comment

3873
01:59:28,687 --> 01:59:31,687
on the budget, MISS Schaefer

3874
01:59:32,391 --> 01:59:32,924
,

3875
01:59:32,924 --> 01:59:33,174
gina schaefer, the winter

3876
01:59:33,174 --> 01:59:35,174
springs village.

3877
01:59:36,895 --> 01:59:37,746
>> I was going to I don't know

3878
01:59:37,746 --> 01:59:40,515
if I'm even allowed to ask, but

3879
01:59:40,515 --> 01:59:43,515
I figure I'll ask anyway.

3880
01:59:44,603 --> 01:59:45,337
Where last year on the budget

3881
01:59:45,337 --> 01:59:48,337
there was approval for wetlands

3882
01:59:49,124 --> 01:59:51,894
park to be have a wall built on

3883
01:59:51,894 --> 01:59:55,246
it or whatever and I wanted to

3884
01:59:55,246 --> 01:59:55,797
make sure that we're still

3885
01:59:55,797 --> 01:59:58,797
getting that wall built on

3886
01:59:59,368 --> 02:00:02,368
there, which it happened in

3887
02:00:03,438 --> 02:00:03,872
OCTOBER but of last year that

3888
02:00:03,872 --> 02:00:04,230
they started talking about

3889
02:00:04,230 --> 02:00:06,230
that.

3890
02:00:07,876 --> 02:00:08,427
But I want to make sure that we

3891
02:00:08,427 --> 02:00:11,427
are still getting that because

3892
02:00:11,496 --> 02:00:12,247
we do get flooded because we

3893
02:00:12,247 --> 02:00:15,417
have big blue that sits out on

3894
02:00:15,417 --> 02:00:15,679
the wetlands park because of

3895
02:00:15,679 --> 02:00:16,680
the rain.

3896
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:18,680
It's a pump.

3897
02:00:19,540 --> 02:00:19,705
Just to give you an f y, you

3898
02:00:19,705 --> 02:00:22,791
MAY not even know that there's

3899
02:00:22,791 --> 02:00:23,442
a pump out on the the park, but

3900
02:00:23,442 --> 02:00:23,609
it's so that we don't get

3901
02:00:23,609 --> 02:00:25,609
flooded.

3902
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:30,615
So I don't know if you're aware

3903
02:00:30,615 --> 02:00:31,166
of that, but I do want to know

3904
02:00:31,166 --> 02:00:34,166
that we're still getting that.

3905
02:00:34,236 --> 02:00:35,700
And also in the budget last

3906
02:00:35,700 --> 02:00:38,374
year I'm talking about not this

3907
02:00:38,374 --> 02:00:39,800
year but we also did not get

3908
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:41,560
reclaimed water yet which we

3909
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:42,210
are supposed to be piped for

3910
02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:42,644
reclaimed water and that was

3911
02:00:42,644 --> 02:00:45,440
also in the budget.

3912
02:00:46,131 --> 02:00:46,782
So can anybody say if I'm if

3913
02:00:46,782 --> 02:00:50,382
we're getting it and we're not

3914
02:00:50,869 --> 02:00:51,520
getting it or whatever, I think

3915
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,972
we'll have to look into that.

3916
02:00:53,972 --> 02:00:54,473
No, I will ask.

3917
02:00:54,473 --> 02:00:55,207
I've got it notes.

3918
02:00:55,207 --> 02:00:55,374
I know that you and I had

3919
02:00:55,374 --> 02:00:57,374
spoken.

3920
02:00:57,877 --> 02:00:58,527
I have to get answers from

3921
02:00:58,527 --> 02:01:00,997
clete and find out what's going

3922
02:01:00,997 --> 02:01:04,350
on and then contact the the

3923
02:01:04,350 --> 02:01:04,917
specific project that that was

3924
02:01:04,917 --> 02:01:05,567
that was one listed two months

3925
02:01:05,567 --> 02:01:08,337
from yeah, we're going to talk

3926
02:01:08,337 --> 02:01:08,633
about it and what I'm going to

3927
02:01:08,633 --> 02:01:09,205
do.

3928
02:01:09,205 --> 02:01:11,557
Yeah, we're going to do a

3929
02:01:11,557 --> 02:01:11,857
question and answer during

3930
02:01:11,857 --> 02:01:12,191
public input.

3931
02:01:12,191 --> 02:01:13,242
>> right.

3932
02:01:13,242 --> 02:01:15,694
But I didn't think this was a

3933
02:01:15,694 --> 02:01:16,562
question.

3934
02:01:16,562 --> 02:01:17,296
>> I thought we are allowed to

3935
02:01:17,296 --> 02:01:20,650
ask questions in a workshop

3936
02:01:20,650 --> 02:01:20,616
workshop in a workshop which

3937
02:01:20,616 --> 02:01:23,616
this is it's okay input.

3938
02:01:27,123 --> 02:01:27,350
I believe a no I can I beg to

3939
02:01:27,350 --> 02:01:27,673
differ.

3940
02:01:27,673 --> 02:01:27,890
It's a workshop.

3941
02:01:27,890 --> 02:01:29,890
Okay.

3942
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:31,377
It's meant to be interactive.

3943
02:01:31,377 --> 02:01:31,594
Yes.

3944
02:01:31,594 --> 02:01:33,594
Into.

3945
02:01:33,662 --> 02:01:34,630
Do you know what we're talking

3946
02:01:34,630 --> 02:01:34,831
about?

3947
02:01:34,831 --> 02:01:37,983
I can speak specifically in a

3948
02:01:37,983 --> 02:01:38,418
wetland park that's ongoing.

3949
02:01:38,418 --> 02:01:38,751
There is funding.

3950
02:01:38,751 --> 02:01:39,485
it's ongoing.

3951
02:01:39,485 --> 02:01:41,885
Our working with pegasus

3952
02:01:42,550 --> 02:01:42,255
engineering, our storm water

3953
02:01:42,255 --> 02:01:43,105
consultant.

3954
02:01:43,105 --> 02:01:46,705
Some of the issues have been

3955
02:01:46,993 --> 02:01:47,527
around working with the

3956
02:01:47,527 --> 02:01:50,196
regulatory folks about and they

3957
02:01:50,196 --> 02:01:50,730
think there's going to be some

3958
02:01:50,730 --> 02:01:53,130
costs that weren't anticipated

3959
02:01:54,830 --> 02:01:54,617
regarding mitigation bank and

3960
02:01:54,617 --> 02:01:57,700
some other issues that are

3961
02:01:57,700 --> 02:01:57,720
starting to arise.

3962
02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:58,270
But it is absolutely ongoing.

3963
02:01:58,270 --> 02:02:00,670
It's it's continued effort.

3964
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:01,975
They were talking about the

3965
02:02:01,975 --> 02:02:04,975
michael blake yes we claim

3966
02:02:05,344 --> 02:02:08,944
extension yes that is in the

3967
02:02:09,115 --> 02:02:11,868
budget it is budgeted for we

3968
02:02:11,868 --> 02:02:12,718
received a state appropriation

3969
02:02:12,718 --> 02:02:13,360
for 380,000 of which is half of

3970
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,360
our request.

3971
02:02:15,288 --> 02:02:17,288
We requested 760,000.

3972
02:02:18,675 --> 02:02:19,326
A project as a whole is going

3973
02:02:19,326 --> 02:02:21,726
to be probably about 1.3

3974
02:02:21,978 --> 02:02:22,745
million or so on the max end,

3975
02:02:22,745 --> 02:02:25,831
the high end if you will.

3976
02:02:25,831 --> 02:02:26,582
What we're doing is in the f y

3977
02:02:26,582 --> 02:02:27,233
26 budget you'll see in this

3978
02:02:27,233 --> 02:02:30,503
budget as part of the capital

3979
02:02:30,503 --> 02:02:34,103
plan, there is the the required

3980
02:02:34,491 --> 02:02:34,771
match that that the city is

3981
02:02:34,771 --> 02:02:36,771
responsible for.

3982
02:02:37,877 --> 02:02:38,845
In addition, we're also working

3983
02:02:38,845 --> 02:02:41,180
with st john's to try to get

3984
02:02:41,180 --> 02:02:41,815
them so having conversation

3985
02:02:41,815 --> 02:02:44,815
with st john's about matching

3986
02:02:45,802 --> 02:02:46,552
our share of the match so if

3987
02:02:46,552 --> 02:02:49,405
all things play out well we're

3988
02:02:49,405 --> 02:02:49,839
see where we receive the

3989
02:02:49,839 --> 02:02:51,839
380,000 from the state

3990
02:02:53,209 --> 02:02:53,543
appropriation and our share to

3991
02:02:53,543 --> 02:02:54,194
finish that project.

3992
02:02:54,194 --> 02:02:57,460
We're hoping that st john's

3993
02:02:57,460 --> 02:02:57,697
will cover half of that but

3994
02:02:57,697 --> 02:02:58,140
we've also budgeted for our

3995
02:02:58,140 --> 02:03:00,140
portion as well.

3996
02:03:00,267 --> 02:03:00,800
Okay.

3997
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:01,350
>> because it's continually

3998
02:03:01,350 --> 02:03:04,350
ongoing because they said when

3999
02:03:04,404 --> 02:03:04,954
it came from across the street

4000
02:03:04,954 --> 02:03:07,954
from the crossings that we

4001
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:08,858
would definitely be plugged in

4002
02:03:08,858 --> 02:03:09,259
and that happened like a year

4003
02:03:09,259 --> 02:03:11,659
and a half ago.

4004
02:03:12,328 --> 02:03:12,879
So that's why I'm asking and

4005
02:03:12,879 --> 02:03:15,879
it's for my my development

4006
02:03:17,367 --> 02:03:18,201
because we use regular water to

4007
02:03:18,201 --> 02:03:21,471
water our lawns and we have

4008
02:03:21,471 --> 02:03:22,880
always been plumbed for

4009
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,488
reclaimed water and the

4010
02:03:25,675 --> 02:03:25,860
development is over 13 years

4011
02:03:25,860 --> 02:03:27,860
old.

4012
02:03:29,179 --> 02:03:29,412
>> so that's why our project is

4013
02:03:29,412 --> 02:03:31,412
moving forward.

4014
02:03:31,948 --> 02:03:32,482
We are fortunate to receive

4015
02:03:32,482 --> 02:03:32,649
that state appropriation

4016
02:03:32,649 --> 02:03:33,449
funding.

4017
02:03:33,449 --> 02:03:36,886
It's going to be the extension

4018
02:03:36,886 --> 02:03:39,286
from hickory grove connection

4019
02:03:40,674 --> 02:03:41,108
to go to 434 which will include

4020
02:03:41,108 --> 02:03:41,725
point to springs village.

4021
02:03:41,725 --> 02:03:42,142
>> thank you so much.

4022
02:03:42,142 --> 02:03:44,142
Thank you.

4023
02:03:47,130 --> 02:03:47,881
Anyone else specifically before

4024
02:03:47,881 --> 02:03:48,615
we take a ten minute break that

4025
02:03:48,615 --> 02:03:51,452
wants to comment about the

4026
02:03:51,452 --> 02:03:53,452
budget.

4027
02:03:54,621 --> 02:03:55,239
Seeing none we'll start a ten

4028
02:03:55,239 --> 02:03:55,539
minute break so you have to

4029
02:03:55,539 --> 02:03:55,906
adjourn this meeting.

4030
02:03:55,906 --> 02:03:57,906
>> excuse me?

4031
02:03:58,859 --> 02:03:59,155
You're going to adjourn the

4032
02:03:59,155 --> 02:03:59,246
workshop?

4033
02:03:59,246 --> 02:03:59,760
Yeah.

4034
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:00,410
It's not take a recess.

4035
02:04:00,410 --> 02:04:02,546
So you're going to enter?

4036
02:04:02,546 --> 02:04:02,879
Oh, I'm sorry.

4037
02:04:02,879 --> 02:04:03,530
Thank you.

4038
02:04:03,530 --> 02:04:05,482
For the record, we are

4039
02:04:05,482 --> 02:04:05,716
adjourning the workshop and we

4040
02:04:05,716 --> 02:04:06,449
will reconvene.

4041
02:04:06,449 --> 02:04:10,000
We will then start over with