1 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,920 All right, we're going to call this 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,759 regular city council meeting of July 3 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:13,840 8th, 2026 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,000 uh to order at 6:01 p.m. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,680 We will start with our moment of 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,199 silence. Please arrive if you are 7 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:45,350 willing and able. 8 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,719 All right, we'll proceed into our 9 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:48,399 pledges. 10 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:51,200 I pledge algiance to the flag of the 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:59,910 United States 12 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,480 and justice for all 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,469 the Texas flag 14 00:01:06,479 --> 00:01:08,320 one state 15 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:12,230 one and indivisible. 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,720 » Thank you all. We'll do our roll call to 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,200 establish quorum. Uh, council member 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,439 Crystal Richardson. 19 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,830 >> Council member Chris Garber. 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,070 » I [laughter] 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,759 council 22 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:32,400 pass 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,439 >> and mayor 24 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,000 >> here. Thank you. 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 >> We'll move into our proclamation. Uh, 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,520 haven't note that council member Richard 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,880 too. 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,920 not to call your office. [laughter] 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Um, 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,240 >> I have 603. Uh, 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,159 >> oh, [laughter] 32 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:54,799 you're right. My phone. 33 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:56,320 >> We'll move into our proclamations and 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,960 presentations. July 2026 is National 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Park and Recreation Month in the city of 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Wood Creek. Uh, please note that we have 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,799 several parks in the city. Please uh 38 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:06,320 make an attempt to go out and enjoy them 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,000 when you can. We have Augusta Park, 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,920 which is where the two August meet near 41 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:12,480 Brook. We have Creekide Park which is at 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,920 playground. We have the Triangle Park 43 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:15,680 where we have our gazebo. And we have 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,840 Veterans Memorial Plaza which is at the 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,120 entrance with the flags. 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,800 We will move into our public comment 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,720 portion of the meeting. Please remember 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,959 the rules. We do not allow profanity, 49 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:29,200 personal attacks, or threats. You will 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,480 have three minutes to speak. 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,720 We will start with the in-person 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 comments. And we do have one written 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,800 comment. Our city secretary will be 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,319 reading our written comments from now 55 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:41,680 on. 56 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,360 >> The agenda item suits. 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,680 >> Okay, perfect. And um we will be timing 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,800 the written public comment in order to 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,480 make sure we can read at a pace where 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,879 people can understand. If you don't 61 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:56,239 mind, I'm going to take a moment to make 62 00:02:56,239 --> 00:03:06,309 the note about that during that item. 63 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:07,920 » All right. First on the public comment 64 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,830 list, we have Miss Stewart. 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Hello. 66 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,920 >> Hello. 67 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,040 >> Good evening. Good evening. 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,640 >> Hello. I'm kind of soft spoken. Can you 69 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:19,519 hear? 70 00:03:19,519 --> 00:03:19,840 >> Yeah. 71 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,480 >> All right. All right. Uh my subject 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,080 tonight is uh reinstating a budget item 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,080 funding for speed cushions on the east 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,840 end creek drive. Uh, dear council, I'm 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,319 writing to urge you to reinstate budget 76 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:36,239 funding from speed cushions on the east 77 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:38,640 end of Woodry Drive. Slowing down 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,799 traffic in this area of public safety 79 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:43,840 necessity. Two specific locations 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,840 require traffic calming to prevent 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,040 accidents. Near 16 Creek Drive, there's 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,519 a blind curb. It severely restricts 83 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:53,599 visibility with vehicles are backing out 84 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,879 of the driveways down near 7 Wood Creek 85 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:59,280 Drive which is where I live at. Inbound 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,120 speeding cars appear without warning 87 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,599 causing numerous close calls. Installing 88 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,799 cushions near 16 wood creek by upstream 89 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:08,640 from there will force drivers to slow 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,519 down before this blind curve. Uh and 91 00:04:11,519 --> 00:04:14,000 then near Wood Five Wood Creek Drive 92 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,799 which is the golf course spot. 93 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:18,799 Uh the golf cart crossing here is 94 00:04:18,799 --> 00:04:20,799 dangerous. Carts must navigate like an 95 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:23,600 L-shaped path that's keeping them in the 96 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,080 roadway longer. Furthermore, heavy shade 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,919 makes the carts difficult to see during 98 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:30,320 the day. Speed cushions before this 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,040 crossing by going eastbound are 100 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,680 essential to slow oncoming traffic down 101 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,479 so drivers can save the gear. I feel 102 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:40,560 like you can kind of guess who's for one 103 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,040 there because sometimes it's hard to see 104 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,840 the cars crossing. uh investing these 105 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:48,000 speed cushions is a proactive lowc cost 106 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,240 measure to protect residents, drivers, 107 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,919 and golfers alike. Thank you for 108 00:04:51,919 --> 00:05:01,830 prioritizing our community safety. Yeah. 109 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:08,629 Next on our list, we have Miss Liver. 110 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,280 Thank you. 111 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,160 First of all, my thanks go to the 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,160 council 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,080 veneer and our staff who work so hard to 114 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,479 make Wood Creek a very special place to 115 00:05:22,479 --> 00:05:27,039 build. I have been in Wood Creek 22 116 00:05:27,039 --> 00:05:30,479 years and I must say they've been the 117 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:33,280 greatest years of my life. 118 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:38,320 Woodri was just not old retired doctor. 119 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,039 It's changed. Our demographics have 120 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:44,800 changed. All the empty lots are gone. 121 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,479 Most 122 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:49,919 >> we're a growing city where people want 123 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:54,000 to live. Families, young families with 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 two of the cutest ones you've ever seen 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,600 from across the street. But and I think 126 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,720 of them when I think of the reason we're 127 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,039 here tonight and that's asking you to 128 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:08,639 please reinstate funding for the I like 129 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:12,710 to call them traffic. 130 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:19,520 The reason being um we have um a busy 131 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,560 road drive being one of the main streets 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:29,520 in Woodbury and um people sometimes are 133 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,840 speeding. I don't know if they're just 134 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,840 passing through or they actually live 135 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:38,560 here, but um the street cushions would 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,560 really be effective if it placed 137 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,280 near my home at 1600 drive and then 138 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:49,199 probably there uh where the land and 139 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:50,960 Michael 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,639 um and if they if people who are 141 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,880 entering Wood Creek, whether they're 142 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,840 visiting or residents, when they see 143 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:02,639 that they know that this is a community 144 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,360 that prioritize its safety for its 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 citizens, its squirrels, its little 146 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,360 farms. 147 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,960 >> I've buried many of the squirrel 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,400 on the tree drive and perhaps 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,759 I'm more cognizant of that because if 150 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:22,560 you know me, I still love to mow. I 151 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,759 still love to pull weeds whether in my 152 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:29,759 uh yard or down to entry. And so I see a 153 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:34,080 lot of uh fastm moving traffic and I 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,960 would really really appreciate it if you 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 would reconsider 156 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,319 uh the funding and add funding for 157 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:45,280 additional speed pushes on your driving. 158 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,039 Thank you so much. 159 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:54,710 >> I'd also like to resubmit a 160 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,479 petition. Thank you. 161 00:07:56,479 --> 00:08:00,720 >> Yeah. uh that was re was was actually 162 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,280 submitted last year, but almost everyone 163 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,120 who lives 164 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,520 from the beginning of Woodbury Creek up 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,800 to where I think Brent lives signed and 166 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 is invaluable. Thank you so much. 167 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,240 >> Thank you, ma'am. Your time. Appreciate 168 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,720 you. 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:26,070 >> All right. Next up, we have Mr. Hayes. 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Good evening, elected officials of Wood 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,240 Creek and the citizens of Wood Creek. My 172 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,440 name is Richie Hayes. I live at 12 Wood 173 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,680 Creek Drive and I inviting y'all to 174 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,680 reinstate the money for these speed 175 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:42,800 bumps. I want to point out a few things 176 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,399 that maybe have been overlooked. 177 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,160 On the weekends, we have a lot of golf 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,320 course traffic. 179 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,160 I understand we have a sign posted that 180 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,959 says 25 mph radar enforce. 181 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:01,120 It's not being enforced very well from 182 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,880 what I see. I've been passed backing out 183 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,800 of my driveway and starting forward 184 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,600 towards 12 numerous times by cars 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,120 and I'm asking y'all to please rethink 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,839 this because somebody's going to get 187 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:21,279 hurt and I do not want to see that. 188 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:30,389 Thank you for your time. 189 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:36,310 » Next up, we have Mr. Pulley. 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,240 » Yes, my name is Brett Pley. I want to 191 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,680 thank you guys again for all the hard 192 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,680 work you do up here on the council, you 193 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,920 know, representing our community. Again, 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,480 um that being said, I'm concerned with the idea of this budget. you know, 195 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,760 this is something that we thought was 196 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,240 kind of a done deal. Space three, we've 197 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,560 been told it's coming and waiting. We 198 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,800 thought, okay. Um, and for some reason, 199 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,800 that thing got pulled. And I I respect 200 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,120 the the debate about that and concerned, 201 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,360 but I I think it's clear that we really need that speed there. We really 202 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,959 want you to put that back in in the 203 00:10:06,959 --> 00:10:09,120 budget if you can. Uh, you know, one of 204 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,959 the things that's a really dangerous for 205 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:12,640 whatever strip. And I do a lot of 206 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,000 walking through here. You can't tell it 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,160 from the big belly anchor, but um I do 208 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,079 walking and walking through that. That 209 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:21,519 is one of the most dangerous stretches 210 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:24,560 for me. When I come to on cycle, I'm 211 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,160 like I got to be super careful because 212 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,079 this is if I'm going to get it, this is 213 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:29,440 going to be that little stretch of area 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,079 that I'm going to get hurt. And it's I 215 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:33,360 don't know what it is about it, but it 216 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 just is people are going fast trying to 217 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,360 get to the highway. They forget that 218 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,880 we're a neighborhood. You've got 219 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,200 families walking that area. You've got 220 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 kids on bikes. You've got promo 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 bicycles. You've got uh you know a 222 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,839 neighborhood that's trying to enjoy 223 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:49,360 their neighborhood. And I think it's 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,519 critical that you reinstate that, you 225 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:53,360 know, for the sake of our neighborhood. 226 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,720 And and [clears throat] we were relying 227 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,640 upon that. We thought we had a process 228 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 that we've worked through for years, 229 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Chris, and some of the others I serve 230 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:02,959 with on the council and I thought we had 231 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:05,120 that in place. I thought we were okay. 232 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,200 So, I'd like you to rethink that and 233 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,440 reinstate that speed cushion. And I 234 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,120 think the way to do it is just bring it 235 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,720 back as a regular agenda item and then 236 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,320 do it as a budget amendment. But we're 237 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,160 begging you, you know, to fulfill that 238 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,320 promise that you made to us that we were 239 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 going to get some relief over there. And 240 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,240 so we had one discussion. We worked with 241 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,079 engineers. We worked with a ton of 242 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:30,959 people. These folks as well as people 243 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:32,480 that couldn't be here today all behind 244 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,959 us and they're behind you. And we want 245 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:36,640 to get that back in the budget. So, 246 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,720 please do what you got to do to make 247 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,120 that happen sooner than later. Again, 248 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,440 thank you so much and keep up good work. 249 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Thanks. [clears throat] 250 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,440 >> Thanks, sir. 251 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,120 >> All right. I believe that concludes our 252 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,240 public comment period. Uh we will move 253 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,200 into our consent agenda. Do I have a 254 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,800 motion to approve? 255 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,240 >> We approve agenda. 256 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,760 >> We have a motion to approve the consent 257 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,440 agenda. Seconded by council member 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,279 Bailey, made by Rosco. 259 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:08,720 All in favor, please raise your hand and 260 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,600 say I. 261 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,320 >> I. 262 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,829 >> Unanimous. Consent agenda passes. 263 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:19,200 We'll move into the reports. Um, our 264 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,160 city administrator is out of town, but 265 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,839 going to call and zoom in with us 266 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:31,030 here. 267 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,310 Sorry, we don't have Thank you so much. 268 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,560 » Can y'all can y'all hear me? 269 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:38,880 >> Yeah. 270 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,839 we got him. 271 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:42,079 >> Okay. Um just going to be real quick. 272 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:44,480 You know, the sheriff's uh report, he's 273 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,399 been active. Um he got several tickets. 274 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:51,360 Um as you noticed, there's uh he's after 275 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,680 the ebikes, so he's keeping an eye out 276 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:58,240 for that. And um hopefully that'll 277 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,639 come to a head at some point. Um 278 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:04,959 code enforcement uh we had a pretty good 279 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:09,279 busy month of June. Uh we had uh 11 280 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:12,560 vegetation dangerous growth. Um most of 281 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:15,360 them were empty lots, but uh those of uh 282 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 all but two have been as of last week, 283 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,880 all but two of them were open. Um or all 284 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,320 but two of them were resolved. Um we had 285 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,040 seven trailers, one was left unresolved. 286 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,079 We had one trash um you know, junk 287 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:31,760 accumulation that's been taken care of. 288 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,320 And then also there was an open burning 289 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,680 um um note that we sent out and that's 290 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:42,320 been resolved. uh engineering update. Um 291 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,000 the Wood Creek private drive 292 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,760 reconstruction, the bids are in Civcast 293 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 and they're out for bids are due on July 294 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,360 29th. Um they're targeting the August 295 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,320 12th council meeting um to for the bid 296 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,279 award. Uh with construction anticipated 297 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:01,920 in September, 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,880 uh drainage site for the Westwood Brook 299 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,760 Hollow. Um they just got their task 300 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 order uh approved task order in and 301 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,440 they're working on um next Tuesday we 302 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,920 have uh the next steps which is just 303 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,920 kind of a coordination of all that needs 304 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,959 to happen uh with the location and 305 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:24,320 easement um with the full set of 306 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,839 preliminary plans due around October. 307 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:30,480 Um, also I've talked with the golf 308 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,199 course um um contractor that's redoing 309 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:37,279 the cart pass. He's going to we're going 310 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:39,040 to work together with him on the cart 311 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,920 path that's in that area as well. So 312 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,320 that that's going pretty well. And then 313 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,240 city hall updates is pretty quiet. The 314 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,920 main thing is we've had a bunch of tree 315 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,839 trimming and um removal permits since 316 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:54,800 June 1st or July 1. Is it July? June 317 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,320 1st. Anyways, we've we've been busy. So, 318 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 uh, that's about it. Pretty short and 319 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,639 sweet. 320 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:03,199 >> Thank you. 321 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:05,120 sir. Thank you. 322 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,079 >> Um, next on the agenda, we move into our 323 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:11,199 regular agenda. Um, it's the item 324 00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:12,880 concerning our audit and financial 325 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,240 statements. We're going to start with a 326 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,360 presentation on this and then we'll um 327 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,440 go with a motion. So, I believe J is 328 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:27,519 online with us now. I just like the 329 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:31,910 What? 330 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,760 » We won't be able to project that and 331 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,959 have them online. That's why I was 332 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:38,079 asking if we were using that. 333 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:39,839 >> And by the way, the microphones are not 334 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:42,720 hot yet, so y'all don't have to speak 335 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:51,110 into them. 336 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,079 » No. Uh, everyone. So, in your packet, 337 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:56,480 um, is the full 338 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,360 report on your desk or sorry in your 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,759 pack full audit on your desk is the 340 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,880 report portion only. Um we received this 341 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,800 after the agenda was posted fairly 342 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,199 recently actually and then additionally 343 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:11,360 council members on your desk at least 344 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,320 four of you had a letter that you needed 345 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,000 to fill out and send to them. 346 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,680 >> Um so if you could make sure to do that 347 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,360 before you leave tonight so we can get 348 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,880 that to them. That was something we were 349 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,120 delinquent on. Um, 350 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,120 >> okay. Jeremy, whenever you're ready, 351 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,079 we're going to start with your 352 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:30,639 presentation and if we could let him 353 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:32,720 finish speaking before we start asking 354 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 questions and then we can move into the 355 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,240 question portion after we have a motion 356 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 on the table. 357 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,399 >> I appreciate that. Can everyone hear me? 358 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,079 All right. 359 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:42,880 >> Yes. 360 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,519 >> Okay, cool. Uh, thanks mayor and um, and 361 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:47,120 thanks council for having me here today 362 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 and allowing me to join join remote. 363 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,880 It's kind of a last minute thing. I just 364 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,959 had something come up that um you know I 365 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:55,120 couldn't afford the the commute time 366 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,120 from San Antonio, but I appreciate the 367 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,560 flexibility and the the capabilities 368 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,320 that the the council has to let me 369 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,480 remote in. 370 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,720 Um so everyone got uh the the thick 371 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,000 bound uh document um is basically your 372 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,120 financial statements for the city of 373 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:10,559 Wood Creek for the fiscal year ended 374 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,199 September 30th, 2025. I'll cover a very 375 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:15,280 high level of the the financial 376 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,400 highlights uh that I I I feel are are worth mentioning, but I'm I'm happy 377 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,772 to go over any details. So, um again, if 378 00:17:22,772 --> 00:17:23,600 [clears throat] there's any questions, 379 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,760 I'll I'll I'll dive in as as much as 380 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,640 y'all want uh to go over. Starting on 381 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,480 page one, um a few pages in is our 382 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,400 independent auditors report. I do want 383 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,400 to mention this is a draft. Um there 384 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,799 still can be changes if if if there 385 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:40,880 needs to be, but it's in draft mode 386 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,440 until uh council accepts the audit. So 387 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,440 once council accepts the audit, we can 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,360 go ahead and finalize it and provide it 389 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:51,919 to Jim and he can distribute however he he needs to. 390 00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:54,320 So uh again starting on page one is our 391 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,559 independent auditors report. This is 392 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,640 actually only uh two or three pages that 393 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,720 belongs to us, the independent auditors. 394 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Basically states what we're engaged to 395 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 do. First uh paragraph is the most 396 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,960 important and that's our opinion. Um we did audit the accompanying financial 397 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,559 statements for the governmental uh 398 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,480 activities. Each major fund and the 399 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,559 aggregate remaining fund information for 400 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:15,919 the city of Wood Creek for the fiscal 401 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:18,799 year end is September 30th, 2025. 402 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,400 We find the financial statements as 403 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,160 presented are in compliance with 404 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,360 generally accepted accounting 405 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,880 principles. That's the highest opinion 406 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,240 you can get from an independent 407 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,240 accounting firm. Basically states 408 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,320 there's no modifying um statements or 409 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 departures from GAAP. um in the 410 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,160 statements you have in front of you. So 411 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,559 it's a clean opinion. 412 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,640 Uh the basis for our opinion is is 413 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,400 basically stating that we gathered 414 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,080 evidence in accordance with our auditing 415 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,919 standards required and those are the 416 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:45,679 general generally accepted auditing 417 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:47,039 standards of the United States. Those 418 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:48,880 are the standards we followed to do our 419 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,720 audit. We did have a change in 420 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,400 accounting principle that was required 421 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,400 for the fiscal year and it's called 422 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,880 gazsby statement number 101 over 423 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,200 compensated abses. those have been that change has been implemented in your 424 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,120 financial statements. So um uh that we 425 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,120 that was needed to comply with US 426 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,320 generally accepted accounting 427 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,000 principles. 428 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,480 The next few pages is basically more uh 429 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,480 boilerplate language on who's 430 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,679 responsible for these financial 431 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:18,400 statements and that's management of the 432 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,880 city. Our responsibilities is just to 433 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,640 issue an opinion and gather evidence in 434 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,909 accordance with our standards. 435 00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:30,880 Going through the report on page 17 is 436 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,640 our balance sheet over the governmental 437 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,640 funds. These are the funds that the city 438 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,600 manages um on a month-to-month basis and 439 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,559 Jim manages on a day-to-day basis. Um 440 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:43,600 but there's major funds that are are 441 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,919 more highly active and then there's 442 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:47,919 other governmental funds. We have a back 443 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:49,600 schedule that that still presents all 444 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,400 the uh non- major funds but we aggregate 445 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,400 them in a single column here on page 17. 446 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,240 So, your major funds for the fiscal year 447 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,799 were the general fund, the debt service 448 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:03,039 fund, the capital projects fund, and the 449 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,160 new drainage fund. Um, previously we had 450 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,400 the ARP fund, but through discussions 451 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,799 with management, um, we had to rename 452 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,350 that to the drainage fund. 453 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,280 Uh, your total assets for the fiscal 454 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,679 year was 1.1 million in the general 455 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:24,000 fund. Um, of that 995,000 is is embedded 456 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,840 in your cash and investments at Texas 457 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,080 class and and um your your local bank. 458 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Your overall fund balance for the 459 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,240 general fund was 1.1 million. Uh 276,000 460 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,559 of that was assigned for capital uh 461 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,360 projects and the remaining 832 is 462 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,400 unassigned for ongoing city operations. 463 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Um I will say that 832 amounts to about 464 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,200 15 months of operating reserves. So, 465 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,720 it's a very healthy fund balance for the 466 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,760 general fund. 467 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Um, the rest of the major funds, uh, 468 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,679 I'll I'll highlight their ending fund 469 00:20:57,679 --> 00:20:59,360 balance for the fiscal year, and it's 470 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,280 pretty comparable to the cash balance. 471 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,039 So, again, very liquid, um, uh, health 472 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:07,679 for each of the funds presented here. Um 473 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:09,679 total fund balance for the uh debt 474 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:13,039 service fund was 89 uh,000 and that's 475 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,120 restricted for debt service requirements 476 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,360 um on your your new note or I'm sorry 477 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:21,120 your new tax uh bond. [snorts] Uh 478 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,559 capital projects fund was is 518,000 479 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,000 and that's restricted for capital 480 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,240 projects in accordance with your bond uh 481 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,039 proceeds. And then your drainage fund is 482 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,400 assigned um based off y'all's um ARP 483 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,799 funding for future journey projects. and 484 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:39,440 that was 471,000 485 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,200 and that includes not only the corpus of 486 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,280 the art funds but also interest earned 487 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440 on on that sitting in the Texas class. 488 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,789 So it amounts to 471,000 489 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:53,120 couple pages on page 19 is our income 490 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,039 statement for the governmental funds. 491 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:56,559 I'll just cover the general fund because 492 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:58,640 that's the the most activity it was in 493 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840 that one. Um, our total revenues for the 494 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,799 general fund was 885,000. 495 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,919 Of that, roughly 750,000 of that is in 496 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:09,760 uh taxes. So, it's either property 497 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,400 taxes, your heavy heavy revenue source, 498 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,080 and then you also get some sales and 499 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 franchise taxes. 500 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Total operating expenditures was 642 and 501 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,679 that was all in the general government 502 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:24,880 um of of the general fund. Uh overall, 503 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,880 we did increase our general fund fund 504 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,320 balance by 170,000. Again, good year for 505 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,280 the general fund. Uh debt service uh did 506 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,000 have a net increase of 70,000. Our 507 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,400 capital projects dipped about 431 and 508 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,880 that was due to some completed some 509 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440 ongoing construction projects that the 510 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,520 capital projects fund was funding. And 511 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,360 then our drainage funds increased by 512 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:48,799 20,000 and that's all the interest 513 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:54,549 earned during the year. 514 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:56,559 The rest of the the bound document is 515 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,280 more uh detailed notes to the financial 516 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,480 statements. It gives a little more 517 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,720 descriptive language on the balances 518 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,000 themselves. I wasn't going to highlight 519 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 any of those unless there was one that 520 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,159 y'all um that caught y'all's eye and I 521 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:10,559 can go into further detail on those if 522 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,120 you'd like. 523 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,640 >> Does this conclude your your 524 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,559 presentation portion 525 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,039 >> for the bound document? Yes. Uh do you 526 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:20,960 want me to go into the the report that 527 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 you was handed out today? 528 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,880 >> Yeah. Do you mind? And then we'll just 529 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,880 then we'll do the the item and then we 530 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,640 can open up some questions. 531 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,880 >> Sure. So the the the item that was 532 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,240 passed out to you um earlier today. Um 533 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,679 again, sorry that wasn't included in 534 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:37,360 your bond pack or your your board packet 535 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,440 to to look at beforehand, but I'll I'll 536 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,520 cover I'll cover the the highlights of 537 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,760 this and if there's any questions um 538 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 I'll happy to answer them. Um so this is 539 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,840 our required communication with those um 540 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,440 charging governance or the city council 541 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,440 of of the city of Wood Creek. Basically 542 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,159 states how the audit went. Um there was 543 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:58,960 again a new accounting policy adopted um 544 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,000 starting on page one of the document. 545 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,240 There was a new uh accounting uh 546 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,480 standard uh implemented that was gazby 547 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 number 101 again on competences. 548 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,360 There's some estimates embedded in the 549 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,279 financial statements. We evaluate those 550 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:16,320 and management's estimate estimates and 551 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,679 uh they're comparable consistent with 552 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:19,600 the years prior. No no huge changes 553 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120 there. There was some um no there was 554 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,279 some difficulties encountered um in 555 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:26,640 performing the audit and that was just 556 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,279 getting the trial balance um timely. As 557 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,679 you know we we did miss the March 31st 558 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:35,039 uh mandated state deadline. Um and so 559 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:36,799 that was the difficulties the only 560 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:38,400 difficulties in performing the audit was 561 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159 just getting the trial balance and 562 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:44,159 getting the audit started. um timely. 563 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:46,000 There were some corrected u 564 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,840 misstatements. There were no uncorrected 565 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,840 misstatements in the financials. U 566 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,200 management has made all the audit 567 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,440 adjustments which amounted to about 20 568 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000 journal entries um in the fiscal year. 569 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 And I've attached those um towards the 570 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,760 back end of the um the letter here. We 571 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,159 didn't have any disagreements um with 572 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:07,520 management um or or uh if we did, we 573 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,600 would have to disclose that to you. 574 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,120 managers provided us everything we 575 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,760 needed to conduct our audit. 576 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,279 And then y'all did comply with the 577 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,279 public funds investment act. And that's 578 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,279 um basically making sure that you're up up to date on your investment 579 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,360 policy, your train uh your investment 580 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,039 officers are are getting their training 581 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,919 that they need and comply with that that 582 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:29,840 um investment act and that you're not 583 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,240 investing anything um that's not allowed 584 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,549 in the investment act. 585 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,960 on page three is kind of the the 586 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,360 highlight of this um this letter and 587 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,200 that's our material weaknesses. These 588 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,120 didn't change from the prior year when 589 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,080 we came to you in December of last year. 590 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Um there was some some some issues with 591 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,919 the bank reconciliations again this year 592 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:55,520 and just getting those timely done. So 593 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,120 we just recommend that the bank wrecks 594 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,600 get uh more timely uh managed and we 595 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,679 think the that with the new bookkeeper 596 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:03,919 that that that process is already in 597 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:07,360 place. But during the year it wasn't um 598 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:08,880 wasn't in place and that's what that 599 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,640 that's why it warranted the comment 600 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,720 here. 601 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,600 Also reconciliation of accounts again we 602 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,000 had 20 journal entries uh over the 603 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,840 city's um fund fund statements and so 604 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,720 having the city um reconcile those on a 605 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,679 monthly basis or more periodic basis um 606 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:29,120 would give you a true picture of the 607 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,880 financial position of the of the city. 608 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,679 So, um, getting those, um, fixed up and 609 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:36,080 getting the bookkeeper to to, uh, manage 610 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,559 those reconciliations would would go a 611 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:43,440 long way. And that's all I have for the audit, um, presentation. I'll 612 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,039 take any questions you have on anything 613 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,760 I discuss or the audit process in 614 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760 general. 615 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,279 >> Do we have a motion on the table for 616 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:58,470 item number one on the regular agenda? 617 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960 I move that we 618 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,880 accept 619 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,159 um the audited or receive 620 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:09,919 just accept that we accept the audited 621 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:11,440 basic financial statement and 622 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,200 supplemental schedules and independent 623 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,000 audit report by ABIP BC for fiscal year 624 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,480 ended September 30th 2021. SEI motion 625 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,520 made by Mayor Carton Rasco and seconded 626 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,600 by council member Richardson as stated 627 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,919 in the packet to accept the audit. Do we 628 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:35,360 have any questions or comments at this 629 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,950 time? 630 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,559 Is that yes? 631 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,200 Um 632 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,440 could you look at page nine? 633 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Sure. 634 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Which part? The one in the packet. The 635 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,440 balance one. Do you have 636 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:03,520 >> the one that was in the agenda? 637 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Not this new one that we just ended up. 638 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,360 Um 639 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,080 some of these are just maybe there 640 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,960 because it's acting so many other things 641 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,000 done. But uh on the note it says 642 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,200 revenues uh total 1.448 643 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,799 which is an increase of 18 percentage. 644 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,960 Um you can look at one [clears throat] 645 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,279 of above 1.448 646 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,840 compared to 1.48 647 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240 and that's not 18%. 648 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 It's actually 2.9%. 649 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,240 And so that note actually came over from 650 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,399 the 2024 651 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:50,240 audit. 652 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,200 So 2024 audit it was an 18% 653 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 um difference 654 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,559 increase but 655 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:06,480 it's not 18% here. Okay. Um 656 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,279 the next 657 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,880 >> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree that that 658 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,720 number should be 2.8%. 8%. 659 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,840 >> Yes. 660 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,279 >> Yeah. 661 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,760 >> Okay. Um 662 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,159 so 663 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:25,919 the same note um it says there's 52,000 664 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:29,360 or just the next note which is a 665 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080 decrease 52,000. 666 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,919 It's due to reduced professional 667 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:37,520 services. Um that line is directly from 668 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,480 2024 audit 669 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,480 but um those fees were actually 670 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,039 the professional fees were 41,000 higher 671 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,360 actual to actual 672 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,279 and um so I think some of these mills 673 00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,679 need to be adjusted 674 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:04,000 to what actually happened some of were 675 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,520 adjusted 676 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,440 requirement. 677 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,559 Okay. on page 10. 678 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,710 Um 679 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,399 this says second paragraph 680 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:23,520 it says general fund was 832,000 681 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,909 of total 1.1 682 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:34,549 on the prior year 683 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:41,510 it says the general fund was 377,000 684 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,159 Uh later on it goes on to say that the 685 00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:48,559 in paragraph three 686 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,480 u the go bond series 2023 687 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840 it's 89,000 for debt service and a 688 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,389 remaining balance of 832,000 689 00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:02,559 on a side. 690 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,799 But in 2024, 691 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,399 that remaining balance was said to be 692 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:11,200 377,000. 693 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,679 So that is a $454,000 694 00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:19,279 change. And so sometimes you'd think a a 695 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,720 fund would go down, but this is going 696 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200 up. Now, there's a number that keeps 697 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,520 popping up. It's 426,000. 698 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Uh that is an adjustment 699 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,360 and this may be what's going on now. 700 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760 That's on page 701 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,440 43. 702 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,200 >> Can I can I address your number 10 real 703 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,000 quick? 704 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,200 >> Yes. Okay. 705 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 >> Okay. So that third paragraph, the 832. 706 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440 So this is just describe that that's the 707 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360 amount that's unassigned for future use. 708 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,720 So that that directly ties um to page 709 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,919 uh I think it's 17. 710 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:03,760 So you can see the the components of 711 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760 your fund balance. You have some that 712 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 are committed, assigned, restricted, and 713 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,240 unassigned. If you look at the far right 714 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,399 column, it's just summarizing those 715 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:18,159 in that paragraph. So, so the 832 716 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:20,720 was related to what was out what was the 717 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 fund balance for future use at the end 718 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440 of 2025. 719 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,799 And I think the difference that you're 720 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,080 mentioning the 450 that was because we 721 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,880 had a prior period adjustment related to 722 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,039 the 4 that the ART funds 723 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,600 >> that you mentioned the 426 that that's 724 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,279 those were the ART funds that weren't 725 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,039 realized and we realized them in the 726 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,360 current year. 727 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Can you explain uh because there's also 728 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,279 a place what's called unearned 729 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:55,120 or deferred revenue is 730 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,159 >> okay what you're talking about there. 731 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,320 Okay. So 732 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,519 when the fire audit says it was 733 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,399 um 377,000 734 00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:12,789 that was just 735 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,720 » that didn't include that that that 736 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 didn't include that that did not include 737 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,720 the unearned revenue of 426 that was in 738 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960 the ARP fund. 739 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,240 >> Okay. So 740 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,039 >> yeah. Yep. 741 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,919 >> And so we realized that revenue in the 742 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:29,279 current year. 743 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,279 >> Well, I guess it was a prior period 744 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,120 adjustment. So we realized it in the 745 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,039 prior year. It should have been it 746 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:36,399 should have been realized in the prior 747 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:37,200 year. 748 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,679 >> Yeah. 749 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:40,870 >> Okay. 750 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,600 Um the next sentence, general 751 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,200 funds. 752 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,310 Um, 753 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,159 again, this is kind of a lack of text 754 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:57,279 being updated. It says the actual 755 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,080 expenditures are 95,000 756 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,760 less and that's due to salaries general 757 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,360 office expense mini court but in 758 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,200 actuality 759 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,000 um salaries were down by so this is 760 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,520 95,000 761 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,639 3500 office was over by 9,000 762 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,200 and the median court was 5,000 budgeted 763 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,440 that's only that's down a,000 of 764 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,040 dollars. So what really happened there 765 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,639 was 766 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,200 the increase 767 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,200 the budget was high 768 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,399 by about 80,000 on a contract services 769 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:48,079 line but um the actual to actual was 770 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,960 41,000. 771 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440 So these might seem picky block and 772 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000 still an honor should be accurate. So 773 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,359 >> I gotcha. And you're referring to the 774 00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:58,800 general fund budgetary highlights, 775 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,119 correct? That's where you're at. 776 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,480 >> General fund budgetary highlights 777 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,119 that. 778 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:05,440 >> Okay. 779 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,359 >> Yeah, we we we worked with Jim on this 780 00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:10,160 to to provide us information on what 781 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160 caused the difference in the actual 782 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,599 versus budget. And um so we'll have to reook at that and and give 783 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,839 a better explanation on what what caused 784 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:22,320 the difference between actual and budget 785 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,960 final budget. 786 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,800 >> Um the same goes for the next line 787 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,800 147,000 788 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,200 actual revenues. Um that really had to 789 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,520 do with franchise fees taxes services 790 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,720 and some other income. Um and I just 791 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,910 have one more main area to go over 792 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,280 now which page on capital assets. Let's 793 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,599 just keep on page 10. Um it says that 794 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:02,960 there is an increase of 533,000. 795 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,040 Um 796 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,560 but our revenue and expense report shows 797 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,119 459,000 798 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,640 which your numbers are probably more 799 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,599 correct but how where do you find those 800 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,240 um capital improvement numbers and is 801 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,599 there a place where it's it's summarized 802 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,839 because 803 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:29,359 >> okay yeah 804 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,960 >> if if you go to page uh sorry It's in 805 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:44,950 the footnotes. If you go to page 31, 806 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,839 so that 533,000 807 00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:49,680 if you look at this table that shows 808 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480 your your capital assets for 809 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560 governmental activities, if you look at 810 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,000 the bottom where it says governmental 811 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,880 activities, capital assets, comma, net, 812 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,240 it's the difference between your 813 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,880 increases and decreases. 814 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,520 So the 802,000 815 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,040 426 816 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520 which includes the actual cost of 817 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480 constructions and capital improvements 818 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,200 as as well as dep less depreciation on 819 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,920 your existing assets and then the 820 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,720 subtraction the subtraction is is your 821 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,599 disposal of assets and completion of 822 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:27,040 your projects which equals the 269 241. 823 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,359 So the sum of those two or the net of 824 00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:32,160 those two is your 533 825 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,400 185. 826 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,119 >> But is there a place where they are 827 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,960 identified? 828 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,910 Um let's say 829 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,200 okay in our reports we we identify 830 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,280 safety enhancement 831 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,480 we identify drainage. Is there anywhere 832 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,599 in your report where it isolates 833 00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,640 what has been approved? 834 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,800 >> I'm sorry. In my report that what is 835 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,240 what 836 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,760 >> which 837 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,040 items of what capital improvements 838 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680 specifically are? 839 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,440 >> No, no, no. We're not required. we in 840 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,400 the in the MDNA section which is your page 10 over capital assets we can 841 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,400 add some language in there to describe 842 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,599 it but it's not required to to be 843 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:28,240 presented we the we do have a schedule 844 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,240 that details out what your capital 845 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,560 projects are and what each of these 846 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,359 buckets on page 31 are what what what 847 00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:37,280 land you have what construction in 848 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200 progress building improvements machinery 849 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,599 equipment we have details behind all 850 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,520 that and what they're still being 851 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,400 depreciated fund. Um, and that's just an 852 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640 Excel schedule, but we we have the data 853 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,079 behind it, but we're not required to 854 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,800 disclose the details um within the the 855 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,440 document. It's up to management. If they 856 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,280 want to disclose some more information, 857 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,240 they can. 858 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,359 >> Okay. 859 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:00,640 >> Yeah. 860 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,720 >> Um there's 861 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,599 differentiation. That was a question. 862 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,079 uh the new roads don't seem to be 863 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,560 negotiated but there's something right 864 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,480 about oh the modified approach where you 865 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,000 maintain the roads to kind of the 866 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,880 condition when they were first built and 867 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,200 you don't have to do separate 868 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,800 depreciation 869 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,079 but on those modifications 870 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:33,430 is that capitalized or expense 871 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,119 » it it depends 872 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,359 I would say they're probably capitalized 873 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:38,720 because they're extending the life of 874 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,960 the of the asset of the road, 875 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,200 >> but it just depends on the the the each invoice, you know, and we looked at 876 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,040 every invoice, so 877 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,839 >> Okay. Um 878 00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:57,520 I think that's all the questions. Thank 879 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,560 you. 880 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:58,960 >> Okay. 881 00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,359 >> So, 882 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:02,160 >> hopefully I answered them. 883 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,760 >> Yeah. Thank you, Council Member Bailey. 884 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160 I have notes that we have on page nine 885 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480 and these two corrections to make and 886 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960 then some possible corrections. I'm 887 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,280 unclear on that under the general fund 888 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200 budgetary highlights that you just plan 889 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,960 to get back with Jim again and verify 890 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,480 that information. 891 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,800 >> Yes. 892 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,680 >> Is that a good summary for you? Any 893 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,160 >> Yeah. 894 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,320 >> Okay. A little bit of the description, 895 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,760 the text. 896 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,440 >> Okay. Um any other questions or concerns 897 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480 from other council members? Um, I will 898 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,720 open the floor to Jim, but before we do 899 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,040 that, I just wanted to take a moment to 900 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,119 recognize that this was Jim's first 901 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:43,200 fiscal year um as the city manager in in 902 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,680 its entirety and there was a pretty 903 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,000 hefty return to reserves under his 904 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,320 stewardship and I'm personally very 905 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,400 grateful for that. He managed our budget 906 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,119 well. Um, of course, some of some of it 907 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:58,319 was due to just other things outside of 908 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:01,119 his control, but it's always u rewarding 909 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,760 to see the city administrator returns 910 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,000 money to reserves rather than all of us 911 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400 collectively overspending. So, I just 912 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,400 wanted to highlight that. Um, and then 913 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,760 Jim, he is online. Jim, did you have 914 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,200 anything to add or um comment on this 915 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,468 portion of the meeting? 916 00:41:22,478 --> 00:41:22,640 » [clears throat] 917 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,440 >> No, I'm good. Just want to thank Jeremy 918 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,520 and his team for all the hard work they 919 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,880 did fighting through our our issues, but 920 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,880 um it went pretty smooth and we're ready 921 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,000 to move forward come October, 922 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,400 get on a normal schedule. 923 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,800 >> Yeah. And so one of the highlights again 924 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,800 of um Jeremy mentioned it this evening, 925 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,720 but we do have a new accountant who 926 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,359 works for us regularly. we struggled 927 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:51,200 with two previous accountants. Um, and 928 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,359 so that that is actually helping us kind 929 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:55,680 of keep pace better. And then we will be 930 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,599 ready to start our audit as Jen just 931 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,440 mentioned in October as soon as this 932 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400 budget's closed. So we should be in good 933 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,640 standing from now on moving forward and 934 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,920 we should be able to make that March 935 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319 deadline more regularly now. So 936 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,720 >> what's the name of the account? 937 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,240 >> They work for the clear cash flows but 938 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,560 is mentioned. What's his 939 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,400 >> uh Charles Williams is the one working 940 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,240 uh under Clear Cle clear clear career 941 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,599 doing that for us. He's he's on top of 942 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:24,720 it. 943 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,880 >> Yeah. 944 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200 Consent for all that one. Um all right, 945 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,119 y'all. Uh are we ready to vote? Any 946 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,040 other comments? 947 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,079 Um, so just to be clear, because this 948 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:37,839 was a draft and there were some possible 949 00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,440 edits, will it need to come back to 950 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,359 council again or will this we would just 951 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:45,119 accept this? Understanding that it'll 952 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,510 come back with edits as a final. 953 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,359 » If it were up to me, I I mean, it's up 954 00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:53,440 to y'all. We can come back and present 955 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,839 again um and [clears throat] give you 956 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:57,680 more time to review and we can have a 957 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,359 meeting before and just go over any 958 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:02,480 questions you may have and and changes. 959 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640 But the the changes that were here 960 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,160 aren't aren't um material. I don't want 961 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,160 to use the wrong word, aren't 962 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,960 significant enough um to to warrant not 963 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,560 approving, but I understand if you want 964 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,800 to table this and and wait till we get 965 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,960 the the language in there and then um 966 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,599 come back to you and and issue again. I 967 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,319 mean, I understand that. I I leave it up 968 00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:25,760 to council. 969 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,920 >> Okay. If I could make a request that we 970 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,400 approve with the event the edits as 971 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,599 suggested. um only because we do have a 972 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,359 rather large grant that we're trying to 973 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:38,800 get that um us approving would need to 974 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,319 happen before the end of the month. 975 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:40,960 >> Mayor Mayor, 976 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,280 >> sir, 977 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,680 >> I move to approve with items. 978 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,880 >> Thank you. So, it's a 979 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,520 >> second 980 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,680 >> an amendment seconded by Council Member 981 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,280 Richardson. 982 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,599 So, approve with edits. 983 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,720 >> Do second. 984 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:55,839 >> Council member Richardson. 985 00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:57,040 >> All right, we'll take a vote on the 986 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,040 amendment first. All in favor of the 987 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,400 amendment of approval. Question. Um, 988 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,150 when would we see the edits of box and 989 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,680 » tomorrow morning? I can get them over to 990 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,119 Jim. Tomorrow morning. 991 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,520 >> Yeah. [laughter] Okay. All right. 992 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,829 >> Yeah. 993 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:19,920 » And again, like we've had this draft 994 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,640 prepared. Um, and if there's any any 995 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,480 time that they can get distributed out 996 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,720 to to whoever and we can meet and make 997 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,800 these edits beforehand, I'm I'm happy to 998 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560 do that. I'm happy to meet ahead of 999 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,000 time. Um, it's it's up to y'all. Yeah. 1000 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:40,480 And next year, maybe maybe that's the the route of changes. Hey, maybe we we have a little audit committee 1001 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,720 meeting uh with some of y'all and go 1002 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,720 over everything um and make sure 1003 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,840 everyone's okay so that um 1004 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480 [clears throat] there's no none of these 1005 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,400 changes happening uh kind of last 1006 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640 minute. So, 1007 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,240 um all of our council members do have an 1008 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,440 opportunity to meet with our city 1009 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,280 administrator in advance of meetings at 1010 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,119 any point in time and some of them have 1011 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,359 set meetings. So, as we move forward 1012 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:03,119 every year, it would be good to utilize 1013 00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:04,960 that meeting for these kind of 1014 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,640 assessments. We don't have to have 1015 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,200 gotcha moments in the council meetings 1016 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,200 regularly. We can't address small things 1017 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,240 like this, especially if there are no 1018 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,880 corrections and there's no um dispute 1019 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,200 over policy or anything like that. All 1020 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,240 right. Um any other [clears throat] 1021 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,920 comments on the amendment will hold a 1022 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,440 vote. 1023 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,280 All in favor of the amendment to approve 1024 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,560 with edits, please raise your hand and 1025 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,960 say I. I. And then that passes 1026 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,119 unanimously. 1027 00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,200 I move on to the main motion which would 1028 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,359 read accept of the audited basic 1029 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,599 financials statements and supplemental 1030 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,280 SC auditors report by AFPC for the 1031 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,760 fiscal year ended September 30, 2025 to 1032 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,910 approve with edits. 1033 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,000 All in favor raise your hand and say I. 1034 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,720 >> I. 1035 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,839 >> Unanimously approved. 1036 00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:01,349 Thank you. Thank you journey. Thank you. 1037 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,400 » We will um send out communication from 1038 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,079 him as soon as we have it for everyone. 1039 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:09,760 >> Moving on to item number two in the 1040 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,720 agenda. This is related to the H County 1041 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,560 Central Appraisal District proposed land 1042 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,560 purchase. 1043 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:25,190 Do we have a motion on the table? 1044 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,760 I move that we approve resolution number 1045 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,589 2026-07-08-01 1046 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,599 supporting H county simple appraisal 1047 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,920 districts proposed land purchase and 1048 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,920 construction of new facility to provide 1049 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,079 services to the taxing units and 1050 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,319 taxpayers of Pace County pursuant to 1051 00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:46,079 Texas property tax code section 6.0 zero 1052 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,990 lifetime. 1053 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,520 » Council member Richardson made the 1054 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,359 motion as stated in the packet. Mayor 1055 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:56,079 Bert Morasco seconded. 1056 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:57,920 Um I have a brief statement here to 1057 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,480 read. Um one, the purchase of 1058 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,240 construction will come from the CAD 1059 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,040 budget and not the city's budget. Two, 1060 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,119 the resolution is a formally required by 1061 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,760 statute and the tax code to authorize 1062 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,920 the CAD to move forward. And three, the 1063 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,680 city council must make a factual finding 1064 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,200 that the proposed new facility is to 1065 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,880 expand operations and promote the cat 1066 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,400 operations to serve both the city and 1067 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,880 county residents and thereby promoting 1068 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,280 the general welfare. 1069 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,800 Um, we did not present a no response to 1070 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,440 this. Um, it was the only time they 1071 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,040 needed the resolution was if we were 1072 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,119 approving it. Um, so do y'all have any 1073 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,880 questions about this item? 1074 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920 >> I didn't want saw it. I didn't want it. 1075 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,839 >> Uh, essentially they are saying they 1076 00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:45,760 need to build another facility and this 1077 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480 will levy taxes to do so, but it comes 1078 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,280 out of their portion of the taxes. 1079 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,240 >> Um, and 1080 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,160 I don't want to get into the weeds too 1081 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,599 much because I can't speak for other 1082 00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,760 cities. Some cities might not move 1083 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,400 forward with this because they felt that 1084 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,880 it came out a little bit late in the 1085 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,359 year and so they had more questions. Um, 1086 00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:12,160 I don't personally have those questions. 1087 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,240 Um, of course, if you all had them, you 1088 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,839 have the opportunity to not pass this, 1089 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,920 but essentially they only need a portion 1090 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,520 of all the cities in their jurisdiction 1091 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:28,230 to approve to move forward. So, 1092 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,640 no other comments. All right. All in 1093 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,880 favor of approving the resolution number 1094 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,710 2026-07-08-01, 1095 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:38,400 please raise your hand and say I. 1096 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,680 >> I. 1097 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,608 >> Unanimously approved. Thank you all. 1098 00:48:44,608 --> 00:48:47,109 [clears throat] 1099 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:48,559 » In the morning, we need to send that 1100 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:49,520 over to them because they have a 1101 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,079 deadline. All right, we move on to item 1102 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,920 number three. This is a discussion about 1103 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,880 planting seven new trees. Do I have a 1104 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,390 motion on the table? 1105 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,960 Uh, a motion to approve the purchase and 1106 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520 installation of seven new trees from the 1107 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,400 city of Wood Creek to be installed by We 1108 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,280 Love Trees because cost not to exceed 1109 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,000 $6,000 from the 2026 2027 1110 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,240 trees and parks budget line item 1111 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,670 10-10-554 1112 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,800 designated for fall 2026 1113 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,200 planting. A second. 1114 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,359 >> Council member Gormick seconded. Motion 1115 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,440 made by council member Swedberg as 1116 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160 stated in the packet. Do you mind if I 1117 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,559 present this item on this? 1118 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,079 >> Okay. Um [clears throat] first off, um 1119 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,720 our city administrator has asked an 1120 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,960 amendment to change the budget line 1121 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,640 item. um we have a tree fund 1122 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,000 >> and so we just kind of in our 1123 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,160 discussions of this moving up to it um 1124 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,240 sort of forgot that we have an entire 1125 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,800 fund designated for this purpose. So I 1126 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,720 would ask that in this meeting we would 1127 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,520 amend to say tree fund instead of the 1128 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,839 trees and parks budget line item at some 1129 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:08,240 point. We don't have to issue that now. 1130 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,280 Um letter A has actually already been 1131 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,200 approved by council. This is sort of 1132 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,040 just the final approval because we asked 1133 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000 the trees and parks board to uh decide 1134 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,800 the uh type of tree and this was 1135 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,119 actually their second designation. they 1136 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,440 originally picked or I don't remember 1137 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,040 the complete history but at some point I 1138 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,880 think it was supposed to be a sycamore 1139 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,000 but arborist on the board recommended 1140 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,480 not because sycamores prefer more water 1141 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,760 than this area would provide and so he 1142 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,079 recommended the cedar m because they are 1143 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,800 more resilient and this area will 1144 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,920 receive less water. Um, so that's the 1145 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,160 history on item A in Dece or actually it 1146 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,720 might have been November. Um, they voted 1147 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,040 to say a cedar elm and like I said, 1148 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,400 council has actually already approved 1149 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,079 the funding for the planting of that. 1150 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,000 This would just be the final approval. 1151 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,040 Um, item B is new and um, something I'd 1152 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,559 like to recommend if council would like 1153 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,480 to send that portion to the trees and 1154 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,760 parks board for a direct recommendation 1155 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,880 since they haven't commented on that, would be great. Also, city 1156 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,119 administrator uh Mr. Burton wanted um to 1157 00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:19,440 discuss the concept that the veterans 1158 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640 memorial plaza might be better served by 1159 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,119 only memorializing veterans there. 1160 00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:26,880 That's up for discussion and debate by 1161 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,559 council and of course the tree board of 1162 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,960 how we install trees where, but I wanted 1163 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,200 to make sure his opinions on that were 1164 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,319 noted tonight. And then items C and D 1165 00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:38,960 are related to the road reconstruction 1166 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,000 of Western Wood Drive. Both property 1167 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,520 owners 1168 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:49,760 have expressed um interest and favor this and specifically the Cypress 1169 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,559 Falls side was on board and essentially 1170 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,319 requested this instead of losing a tree 1171 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:56,960 and the Cypress Point side has stated 1172 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,119 that they are supportive of this um and 1173 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:00,880 that they would actually be interested 1174 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,400 in cost sharing but have reserved giving 1175 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,640 a final um total on that because it's 1176 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,640 for one it's a whole board but also um 1177 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,280 they were kind of waiting to see what um 1178 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,440 the city plan might look like, 1179 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,760 especially the cost of it. Okay. 1180 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,440 >> Mayor, can I ask you a direct question? 1181 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,240 Um 1182 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,640 >> could you distinguish between Cypress 1183 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,800 side and Cypress 1184 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,400 Oh, I'm in the cycles one. 1185 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,680 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1186 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,839 >> So, the lodge area is Cypress Falls. 1187 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:30,880 >> Yes. Yeah. So they own one side of the 1188 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,040 culvert where a large tree is being 1189 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,640 taken out and then Cypress Point is 1190 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,920 actually the land owner on the other 1191 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,480 side Hog Creek and there's um I think 1192 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040 three trees being taken down there. 1193 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,680 >> Um and so this is kind of just our 1194 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,319 commitment to replace trees that we take 1195 00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:49,760 down for construction. We have an 1196 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,680 overall city policy in favoring that 1197 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,640 kind of thing. Actually it's an 1198 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,040 ordinance. So this is us kind of acting 1199 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,680 in good faith in our own construction. 1200 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,119 That makes sense. 1201 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:02,240 Mayor, mayor, sir. Um, I wish to discuss 1202 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,160 the suggestion of a cedar elm at the 1203 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,440 Brook Meadow Street Island location. Um, 1204 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,280 I have cedar elms in my backyard and 1205 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,960 they have a strong tendency to drop the 1206 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520 limb in large and small. So, I did some 1207 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,200 research to see if that is true for 1208 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,599 cedar elms in general or just those in 1209 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,400 my backyard. The research says that yes, 1210 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,319 as a cedar is a good tree for street 1211 00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,559 islands as they are highly adaptable, 1212 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,480 resilient native trees that tolerate 1213 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,040 tough compacted soils, restricted root 1214 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,240 spaces found in Texas road islands. But 1215 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,480 because they grow quite large, often 1216 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,040 reaching up to 70 ft, confined road 1217 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,200 islands might restrict root systems over 1218 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,920 time or lift surrounding roadway if not 1219 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,960 provided adequate room. And to quote the 1220 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,599 we love trees website, in small road 1221 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,400 islands in Texas, these trees face added 1222 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640 stressors, constricted root zones 1223 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,160 combined with extreme heat and 1224 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,640 unpredictable weather swings frequently 1225 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,040 result in sudden living drop where 1226 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,160 heavier branches fail without warning. 1227 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,559 So, the research confirmed my concern 1228 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,160 and then I did some research on what 1229 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,079 other trees might best suit this small 1230 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,240 little roadway location. And the 1231 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,480 following four trees consistently showed 1232 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,960 up on all the lists. Texas mountain 1233 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,079 wool, a slow growing evergreen featuring 1234 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,640 fragrant purple spring blooms and 1235 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,960 compact canopy perfect for tight tough 1236 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,280 spaces. There are already two volunteers 1237 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,319 at this location, though poorly placed 1238 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:31,040 near the edge. Um, Mexican plum, a 1239 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,040 native ornamental offering beautiful 1240 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,960 white spring blossoms and attractive 1241 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,359 bark. I should mention that the that I 1242 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:39,040 have several of these and they have 1243 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,480 three to four inch spikes on the 1244 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,240 branches, though I do support the idea 1245 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,599 of planting fruit trees in the 1246 00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:46,559 community. Desert willow thrives in full 1247 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:48,800 sun with high drought tolerance 1248 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,000 producing trumpet shaped flowers. Texas 1249 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,800 red bug thrives statewide with bright 1250 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480 pink spring flowers and handles 1251 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,640 reflected heat well. In my yard, I have 1252 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,319 several of all of the above except for 1253 00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:02,319 the desert willow. 1254 00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:04,240 Based on my experience with my trees and 1255 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:05,760 the research I've done regarding street 1256 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,760 trees in Texas, I would recommend 1257 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,240 council chooses the desert willow to 1258 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,160 complement the other plantings and 1259 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,800 volunteers at the Brook Meadow location. 1260 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,400 Specifically, I think council should 1261 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,040 choose the cultivora, 1262 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,559 which is a seedless variety for large 1263 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,480 fragrant magnolia magenta blossoms. 1264 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,880 Being seedless seedless helps reduce 1265 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960 maintenance for this area compared to 1266 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200 other cultivars. Overall, the desert 1267 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,040 willow is a tough and pretty tree 1268 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,470 perfectly suited for this location. 1269 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,319 » May I just say they're not pretty in the 1270 00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:43,280 winter. 1271 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,319 >> True. They do. 1272 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:44,800 >> I will. 1273 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,240 >> They're just like sticks. 1274 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,920 >> They also grow very wide and low. So 1275 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,119 this area is a little like I'm not 1276 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,520 disagreeing that would in theory be a 1277 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,680 good pick. I am concerned about the 1278 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:03,119 width of 20 ft at only 20 ft high. 1279 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,359 So that's they grow like 1280 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:07,680 >> so I think that that would actually 1281 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,040 impede the street pretty significantly. 1282 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,920 >> Desert. 1283 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,480 >> Yes. Because they grow wide and low. 1284 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,640 >> Yeah. So they would be good for like 1285 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,000 that street island in Wood Creek Drive 1286 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000 because it has a wide width, but they 1287 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,280 like the one that's planted at the 1288 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,200 gazebo is actually planted too close to 1289 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,680 the gazebo. The arborist commented on 1290 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,559 that as well. 1291 00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,160 >> Yeah, I was just trying to state my 1292 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,720 concern about the the wind drop if I 1293 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,720 experience it. anytime you have a 1294 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,480 slightly strong wind. 1295 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,319 >> So I, you know, especially since it's a 1296 00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:44,960 roadway, I want to take make sure that 1297 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,160 we're cons considering that option. Um, 1298 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,920 if I could, I'd also like to talk about 1299 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,200 Memorial Park. I do appreciate um Jim's 1300 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,040 idea. Um, so kind of take that in. I 1301 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,720 wrote this well before Jim mentioned 1302 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:00,160 this, but I wanted to talk about the 1303 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,440 orchid trees in Memorial Park. Um, 1304 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,079 they're beautiful spring blue trees. 1305 00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,000 Yep, I'm in right place. And I've had 1306 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,920 them personally, which may not be an 1307 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,920 issue for the city if they are planted 1308 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,480 in a location where consistent mowing 1309 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,359 will occur as they tend to throw seeds 1310 00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:22,480 like crazy. Actually, the tree is funded 1311 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040 on how it throws seeds. The dry seed 1312 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,520 pods literally pop and throw their seeds 1313 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240 35 to 50 feet away. I've actually been 1314 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,880 hit in the face by these seeds. I 1315 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,200 planted mine in a wide deep garden 1316 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,400 border. Um, one of my annual tasks is to 1317 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,240 pull out the volunteers of this tree 1318 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720 mates. They are they look delicate, but 1319 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,760 they are truly Texas. A 2-in volunteer 1320 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,040 can have an 8 in tap routt. So, I would 1321 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,480 only recommend that if council decides 1322 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,960 to go with orchid trees that they plant 1323 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,119 them in the Greek grass section of a 1324 00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:59,359 moral park. But if they're plant if the 1325 00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:01,599 planted to plant 1326 00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:03,599 in the existing garden beds, I would go 1327 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,440 with the red. 1328 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,160 >> Yeah. No, on that one, we were going to 1329 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,040 let our arborist kind of decide this the 1330 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,760 place, but u we lost like a whole cops 1331 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,160 of trees over there a few years back. 1332 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,720 There was a mistake in direction from a 1333 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,799 member of the tree board and they took 1334 00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,240 out a bunch of trees they shouldn't 1335 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,839 have. Um and so 1336 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:27,440 uh she was chairperson at the time 1337 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,040 actually. But uh and so in in my mind 1338 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,440 this I would hope that they would try to 1339 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,640 go kind of in that area um to where a 1340 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,040 bunch of trees were taken out 1341 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,400 >> in the winter. 1342 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:40,720 >> Yeah. 1343 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,440 >> Wonderful. I'm just thinking of parents 1344 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,960 during the year. 1345 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,040 >> Yeah. But we would rely they the 1346 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,640 intention was not to go in the existing 1347 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,760 beds and we would rely on a professional 1348 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,760 to say this is a safe place to plant 1349 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,520 this or you know we have to look for 1350 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,960 lines as well. 1351 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,319 >> Right. 1352 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:00,880 >> Can we can we discuss the part about the 1353 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,200 veterans versus non veterans? 1354 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,319 >> If y'all feel like you need 1355 00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:08,559 >> Well, it's it's called Veterans Memorial 1356 00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:10,319 Park. There's a there's a 1357 00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:12,960 >> a monument there to 1358 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680 >> the circuses. there's the black poles. 1359 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:21,119 Um, and and I just wonder there not a committee [clears throat] of 1360 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:24,960 veterans that that manage that or would 1361 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,599 go to approve anything that's going on 1362 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:32,000 in there. So, so it's like, okay, so, so 1363 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,400 I'm not sure who would complain um if if 1364 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,799 we were memorializing, 1365 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:42,640 you know, city leaders, city members um 1366 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,680 in that way, in that place um that also 1367 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,640 needs treats. But, um but that's just my 1368 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,319 thinking on it's like, well, I mean, 1369 00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:52,720 council would ultimately make the 1370 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,240 decision whether to put trees there, 1371 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,760 whether they're veterans or not. We 1372 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,240 don't know whether um Miss Britner um or 1373 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,200 Mr. Winter were veterans. I mean, we 1374 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,119 probably find that out, but but even if 1375 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:07,520 they weren't, is this, you know, it 1376 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,880 seems like the most 1377 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,839 logical place to do, you know, special 1378 01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:17,040 memorials. Um and there is a need in 1379 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,640 that location. So, it's just I just 1380 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,720 wanted to sort of bring that up and 1381 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,319 >> see what people think about. 1382 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:24,880 >> If I may also, u Mr. renter. Actually, 1383 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,839 the member of Wow. James left, but Wow. 1384 01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:30,240 Um, the weeders of Wood Creek takes care 1385 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,160 of the entrance for us for free and he 1386 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,680 was one of the members that used to go 1387 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,920 work there. So, it was sort of like a 1388 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,839 kind of an homage to that work he did 1389 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,720 there. Um, and this idea started for me 1390 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,920 right after his passing, which is 1391 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,079 actually some time ago now, almost two 1392 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,559 years, maybe two years. Um and then when 1393 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,480 Miss Britner also passed away because of 1394 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,880 her lengthy service in the city, I just 1395 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,960 wanted to recognize her as well. Um she 1396 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,760 served on a council for a long time and 1397 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,559 mayor for several. 1398 01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:04,559 >> So um you know I think you know we could 1399 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,119 take each of these as an amendment. I 1400 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:08,960 would request the first amendment to be 1401 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,359 about the budget to come this would come 1402 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:14,799 from the tree fund specifically. Sir, 1403 01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:19,359 >> I manage that the funding 1404 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:24,640 is from to become from the tree fund. 1405 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,119 >> Thank you. So you would to confirm you 1406 01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,040 mean you would strike trees and parks 1407 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,640 budget 1408 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,000 line item and instead put like in with 1409 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,760 the number and say tree fund. 1410 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,440 >> Would you like me to fully state that? 1411 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,680 >> No, it's okay. I just wanted authors. 1412 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,680 Okay. So seconded by council member 1413 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,319 Richardson. motion made by council 1414 01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:49,040 member Gart [clears throat] and then um 1415 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,480 we'll go ahead and vote on that just to 1416 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,920 keep this clean if you don't mind. All 1417 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,440 of you heard of that budget change raise 1418 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:58,000 your hand say I unanimously I on the 1419 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,079 amendment. Um and then if you just take 1420 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,040 each letter you know I hope you all 1421 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,920 approve these all of them. Um obviously 1422 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,559 they're up for discussion. Um because of 1423 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:11,839 the way this is stated, you can make 1424 01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:13,280 adjustments, but if you make 1425 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,119 adjustments, it likely needs to come 1426 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,440 back because that was not publicly 1427 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,760 noticed. So, for example, if you want to 1428 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,680 reconsider the Cedar Elmont letter A, we 1429 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,359 would either need to send the new 1430 01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:27,680 request to trees and parks or for it to 1431 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,359 come back at a future council meeting. 1432 01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:30,880 By the way, the public is adequately 1433 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,799 noticed on that change. 1434 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:38,720 Question, if I may. Um, 1435 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,280 it says proposed selections on our 1436 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,040 agenda. 1437 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,559 So, can't council change something 1438 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,150 that's proposed. 1439 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,119 And [clears throat] we're also not 1440 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:53,200 changing the 1441 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,720 value or a number. We're we're saying 1442 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,000 >> proposed is a blue car. We want a green 1443 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,720 car. 1444 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,319 >> That is not allowed on to 1445 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,799 So, you've got a very specific list of A 1446 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:12,400 through D. Um, it does say proposed 1447 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,799 elections, but here they are. And so, 1448 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:17,280 the question is, adequate notice to the 1449 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,318 public under the Open Meetings Act. And, 1450 01:03:22,318 --> 01:03:22,960 [clears throat] 1451 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,640 you know, if you had a discussion to 1452 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,119 formulate what the options will be and 1453 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:31,200 that was broadly drafted, then then 1454 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,799 you'd have a little bit more discretion. 1455 01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:35,520 But here you've got a very specific list 1456 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,440 that follow specific list and to the 1457 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,359 extent that you know it's if it's if 1458 01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:46,240 it's a dimminimous or a very minor 1459 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,839 change it might be okay under adequacy 1460 01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:54,319 of notice but the best practice is to 1461 01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:58,559 either go with what action is proposed 1462 01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:02,319 and vote up or down on it or bring it 1463 01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:04,160 back to a future agenda which can 1464 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,319 certainly be done. You can direct staff 1465 01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:08,720 say this is what we want. This is the 1466 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,520 direction back and approve it with 1467 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,880 adequate notice to the public 1468 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,960 >> and I will say on letter A in particular 1469 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,400 that's from a report from the tree 1470 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,119 board. So that wasn't something I 1471 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,200 personally generated. 1472 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,880 My con Yeah. My concern is that we love 1473 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,280 trees actually doesn't recommend this 1474 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,400 very tree and we're hiring we love 1475 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,640 trees. So it kind of 1476 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,200 >> So my amendment would be 1477 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,400 um item A and B be sent to the tree 1478 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,319 board 1479 01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:47,839 for review and recommendation. 1480 01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:48,000 The 1481 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,480 >> second. All right. We have a amendment 1482 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,920 to send A and B to the tree board for 1483 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,520 recommendation. We have a second from 1484 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,400 council member Bailey. 1485 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,400 Any further discussion on those two? 1486 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,400 >> They would have um the notes from the 1487 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,400 meeting with the discussion. 1488 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,000 >> Yes, 1489 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,079 that was true. This meeting? Yeah, 1490 01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:08,880 >> from this native. 1491 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,640 >> Yeah. Is that 1492 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,720 >> But I mean just I'm sorry. 1493 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,160 >> I just have a quick question. As far as 1494 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,960 the cedar elm and the risk of the limbs 1495 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,520 dropping, is that minimized by regular 1496 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,390 maintenance by an arborist? 1497 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,520 » Not my experience. 1498 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:27,839 >> So, 1499 01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:29,440 >> okay, I understand. But I'm going to 1500 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,920 share what I in my research that I did 1501 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,359 in the last couple days. Um, cedar elms 1502 01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:38,880 have very brittle wood. So wind tends to 1503 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,760 break it ver versus other trees that 1504 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,480 tends to have more flexible wood. I 1505 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,839 guess I mean that's based on the 1506 01:05:45,839 --> 01:05:48,160 research I did and that's kind of what 1507 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,920 we love trees. So actually a website 1508 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,359 that I was doing this research from. 1509 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:55,839 Well, as far as serum goes, you know, I 1510 01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:57,920 was I was in on those meetings, 1511 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,880 discussions and going back and forth and 1512 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,079 Sycamore and Serum and it's that the 1513 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:05,920 focus I think of the treeboard at the 1514 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,280 time was well, we need something that 1515 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,559 goes tight because it's a fairly narrow 1516 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:12,079 stretch and you don't want you don't 1517 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:13,760 want the the traffic block. You don't 1518 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,839 want traffic vision blocked, but you 1519 01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:19,039 want something that's trunk 1520 01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:22,000 >> and leaves. Um, and so it fit that 1521 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,760 description, but there wasn't a real 1522 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,920 there wasn't conversation about sort of 1523 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,839 the downside of one because I we had a 1524 01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:31,200 bunch of CR still and they do smile. Um, 1525 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:39,920 and it's a win. I mean, so so would regular birth care help? 1526 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,319 >> Um, yeah. But would it solve it? Would 1527 01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:44,240 it I I don't I don't know, but I don't 1528 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,839 think so. I still ask the question is 1529 01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:50,319 deciduous versus evergreen a question 1530 01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:52,480 that we want to consider as we look at 1531 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,280 these trees 1532 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,119 cuz all the rest of them look good in 1533 01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:57,920 the winter. 1534 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,400 >> Do you have a citation for the we love 1535 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,680 trees? 1536 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,760 >> I don't sorry 1537 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,280 >> okay because I'm on their website right 1538 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,200 now and I don't mean 1539 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,480 >> any of that 1540 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,799 >> put in quotes and I just pulled it and 1541 01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:13,760 put it into my notes 1542 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,799 >> so Am I alone on the disc? 1543 01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:18,799 >> No, you're not alone. I didn't mean to 1544 01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:24,160 glaze over it. I just I think it's best we rely on 1545 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,680 professionals 1546 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,359 and all, you know, for this in 1547 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,839 particular. And we can always also add 1548 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:36,160 on a consultation with we love trees in particular 1549 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,680 um if that was a concern of y'alls and 1550 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:45,119 they could give a a more indepth answer 1551 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:46,960 for the for the tree board if y'all 1552 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,720 wanted as part of that. Yeah. 1553 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,119 >> Okay. 1554 01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:52,640 >> Because I was one of the ones who said 1555 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,520 see around the 1556 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,630 >> first 1557 01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,520 street. 1558 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,200 >> They're they're all over our city and 1559 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,480 they line their streets already. 1560 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:12,477 >> I've got too many. 1561 01:08:12,487 --> 01:08:17,669 » [clears throat and cough] 1562 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,279 » Do you have any other comments on 1563 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,159 sending A and B to the tree board and 1564 01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:24,400 offering a consult with we love trees 1565 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,070 for them? 1566 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,319 All right. All in favor of that mot, 1567 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:33,040 please raise your hand and say I. Um, 1568 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,440 all five passes 1569 01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:38,319 unanimously. Um, that leaves item C and 1570 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:42,480 D. Um, much like item A, this wasn't 1571 01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:45,679 directly generated from me. I offered 1572 01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:48,319 the opportunity of a possible tree 1573 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,799 replacement and the discussions with 1574 01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:54,319 these individuals. Cypress Falls or Miss 1575 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:56,960 Hasty in particular appreciated the bald 1576 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,040 Cypress 1577 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,920 petition specifically. Um I will say 1578 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,600 that the board chairperson of uh Cypress 1579 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,759 Point made some other suggestions and um 1580 01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:12,560 Mr. Filming um however when I looked 1581 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,199 those up they don't meet kind of like 1582 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:17,759 our city standards for um the kind of 1583 01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:21,359 trees we prefer to plant by policy. So 1584 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,199 um I did not proceed with some of the 1585 01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,159 things he mentioned but um he did he 1586 01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:28,480 basically said yeah you know whatever is 1587 01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,679 in the creek you know replace I'm 1588 01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:35,040 quoting sorry Ed if you're listening but 1589 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,679 um so what was selected here were trees 1590 01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:40,640 that are already located in that area 1591 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,560 sycamore 1592 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,880 >> and because we have a policy of uh 1593 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,279 promoting diverse canopy instead of 1594 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,640 three of the same it was you know 1595 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,080 promoted to be three different 1596 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,840 >> we don't need any amendment that's 1597 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,239 already part of it 1598 01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:00,080 >> unless you guys want to do something 1599 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,320 else and then I would recommend that you 1600 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,400 bring it back to council so you have 1601 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,760 proper compliance or send it to the tree 1602 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,910 board 1603 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,719 » any further discussion on CN 1604 01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:16,719 all in favor of moving forward with 1605 01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:19,760 those as stated please raise your hands 1606 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,960 and say I 1607 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:21,360 >> I 1608 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:26,080 >> unanimously passes. We send the sheet as 1609 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,480 that just occurred. But we have to go 1610 01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,800 back and redo all of the main motion 1611 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,239 together with all of these amendments. 1612 01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:34,880 So C and D have been approved. A and B 1613 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,120 would be sent to the tree board and then 1614 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,640 we'll do the main motion with those 1615 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,320 amendments. So I'll read that now. Are 1616 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,560 you ready? All right. So, the motion as 1617 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,880 amended will state to approve the 1618 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,640 purchase and installation of seven new 1619 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,080 trees in the city of Wood Creek to be 1620 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,159 installed by We Love Tree cost not to 1621 01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:53,760 exceed $6,000 from the 2026 2027 tree 1622 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,040 fund designated for fall 2026 planting 1623 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,360 with A and B to be sent to the tree 1624 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,199 board or consult 1625 01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:04,960 in addition with we love trees. I added 1626 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,360 that it's not an official per amendment 1627 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,600 though. and then C and D would be 1628 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,320 approved as is. 1629 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,000 All in favor of the amended motion, 1630 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,480 please raise your hands and say I. 1631 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,159 >> Unanimously passes with those 1632 01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:24,709 amendments. 1633 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:26,400 All right, we'll move on to item number 1634 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,040 four. Um, this has actually been 1635 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,800 postponed because we do not have the 1636 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,800 report from the trees and parks board. 1637 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,600 They requested a secondary meeting to 1638 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,080 discuss the topic because they wanted to 1639 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,239 go out and personally spend a little bit 1640 01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:42,159 more time on this and do a little bit 1641 01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:43,679 more research on their own before they 1642 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,840 issued a report to us. So, we will not 1643 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,249 be taking up item number four. 1644 01:11:51,259 --> 01:11:52,560 [clears throat] We'll move on to item 1645 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,920 number five which is related to a 1646 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,920 schedule for routine mat maintenance 1647 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,000 contract review and policy review for 1648 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,679 the city. 1649 01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:02,400 Sir, 1650 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,480 >> I move that council direct staff and or 1651 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:05,920 city attorney to make the following 1652 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,920 edits and return the draft resolution to 1653 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,719 council for approval. The edits are to 1654 01:12:10,719 --> 01:12:12,800 remove the third and final resolved 1655 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,360 section from this resolution and any 1656 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,600 creation of a threshold higher for 1657 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,679 submission of an item to council's 1658 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,480 agenda or council's final approval on 1659 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:25,520 any item on council's agenda legally 1660 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,040 required by state law and remove the 1661 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,840 entire section regarding policy and any 1662 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,840 reference in the document pertaining to 1663 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000 such specifically the whereas statement 1664 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,560 about excessive and redundant policy 1665 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,360 review, leaving only the sections named 1666 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,840 infrastructure and asset maintenance and 1667 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,679 contract services. And that the 1668 01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:47,520 resolution makes clear that only those 1669 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,360 two sections are being addressed by this 1670 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,679 draft resolution, including in the 1671 01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:59,110 whereas and results section. 1672 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,120 » Motion fails for lack of a second. Do we 1673 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:08,950 have a secondary motion on the table? 1674 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,000 I move that we approve resolution number 1675 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,910 2026-07-08-02 1676 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,760 establishing schedule for routine 1677 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,400 maintenance contract review and policy 1678 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:25,910 review for the city review. 1679 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,440 » Seconded 1680 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:30,000 by council member Richardson. motion 1681 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,080 made as stated in the packet. Do you 1682 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,229 mind if I introduce? 1683 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:36,560 » Sorry. 1684 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,719 >> Do you mind if I introduce this? 1685 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:41,199 >> So, uh, this item is something we've 1686 01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:44,320 kind of long talked about. Um, it kind 1687 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,040 of concretes some of our maintenance 1688 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,000 schedules so that um, especially if we 1689 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,080 have any turnover and change of staff. 1690 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,560 Hopefully that never happens, but as 1691 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,800 things do happen, people do wish to 1692 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,199 retire eventually. um this would give a 1693 01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:01,280 clear road map for people moving 1694 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,760 forward. Um the policies themselves 1695 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,400 um they are set so I'll just take kind 1696 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,960 of take it by section. Um we discussed 1697 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,520 in a meeting and set the the numbers for 1698 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,360 procurement and fine balance. The 1699 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,199 investment policy is governed by state 1700 01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:20,320 law. So that means that um the other 1701 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,880 ones are kind of set after each council 1702 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,920 is redone. So at November we have an 1703 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,840 election and so that new council will 1704 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,480 get to set their policies if they wish. 1705 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:34,560 Um and then the setting of paper of 1706 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,560 record that's kind of a standard process 1707 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,239 we do that every single year at the same 1708 01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:42,640 time. um the records retention policy um 1709 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,000 we you know that is under kind of what's 1710 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,719 require I mean that's a city secretary 1711 01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:51,280 item and the state sort of regulates it 1712 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,316 but this is in compliance with that um 1713 01:14:55,316 --> 01:14:58,320 [clears throat] then moving on with our 1714 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,360 um advisory bodies we ask that they do 1715 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,600 this annually that's in the code but by 1716 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,679 including this in this kind of calendar 1717 01:15:05,679 --> 01:15:07,520 it gives us one place to look for all of 1718 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,400 this of um subcommittees and ad hoc 1719 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,800 workg groups. Um that's something that 1720 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,199 we we dissolve either with an election 1721 01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:18,800 or when the business is vent or we can 1722 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,239 work on them during the budget season 1723 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:21,840 like if we know we're going to be 1724 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,840 forming like for example when we form 1725 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,520 the road committee for the road bond 1726 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,920 that kind of stuff. Um the comprehensive 1727 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,320 master plan has a plan you know so I'm 1728 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,520 not going to read this whole thing to 1729 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,840 you. Um the the only like the liaison 1730 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,440 policy 1731 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,280 uh is something that you know we're kind 1732 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,640 of like like sort of using that might 1733 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,440 eventually not be on here. Um temporary 1734 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:48,080 water restrictions we set in in that 1735 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,040 actual resolution. So that mimics that 1736 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,440 um moving on to the infrastructure and 1737 01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,520 asset maintenance. These are things that 1738 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,560 we have been doing out of like kind of 1739 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,600 just memory. They have there's never 1740 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,000 been a consistent stated schedule on any 1741 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,400 of these things. And so they were based 1742 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,600 like for example the rainwater 1743 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,440 collection system that's based on the 1744 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:10,800 recommendations from the people that 1745 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,199 installed it and people that work in 1746 01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,679 that field. They need to be checked out 1747 01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:18,719 every couple of years. Um the website 1748 01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:20,560 review that's something that I take in 1749 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,760 all my staff personally and um so that's 1750 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,840 h we do that in January. In fact we've 1751 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,760 done a few of them now. So that will 1752 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,120 probably um at least happen once a year. 1753 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,800 Um but obviously if there are changes 1754 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:33,920 needed in the meantime, we would do 1755 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,000 that. The golf park crossing, that 1756 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,159 number is based on what we watched since 1757 01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:40,480 we last painted them. So it's been about 1758 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,000 three years since we last painted them 1759 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,080 and they need to be painted again. So 1760 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,000 that's where that number came from. The 1761 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,480 playground wood chips. Um basically this 1762 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:51,120 just sets out a plan to regularly manage 1763 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,600 them and measure them. The ride ofway 1764 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,040 trees trimming was something we just 1765 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,800 sort of did every two years. and so we 1766 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,400 had to cycle it into the budget, but 1767 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,040 this now concretes that I would like to 1768 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,800 make a minor edit to strike starting 1769 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,760 year 2026 because it's it's not needed. 1770 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,800 Um the way this was originally lined out 1771 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,120 changed. I added that next review time 1772 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,360 column to give more clear direction so 1773 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,400 people didn't have to sit there and do 1774 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,880 the math. So the starting year 2026 is 1775 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,400 actually um a new point. Now, the 1776 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,719 contract services um that's actually 1777 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:24,320 where that change came into place 1778 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,880 because council has sort of a standing 1779 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,719 motion that we would in theory review 1780 01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:31,600 these every 3 years and but that motion 1781 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,960 is very very very old. Um the overall 1782 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,120 goal of this policy is not only to make 1783 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,679 things explicit and clear for any staff, 1784 01:17:39,679 --> 01:17:41,840 any council member, any member of the 1785 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,320 public about when we promise to do these 1786 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,880 things. It's also to create continuity 1787 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,080 in our leadership so that we have um 1788 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,560 kind of a very clear direction for the 1789 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,679 city on an annual to like every two-year 1790 01:17:55,679 --> 01:17:58,640 basis and we're not kind of changing 1791 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,400 direction repeatedly. So by clearly 1792 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,840 expressing that we're going to review 1793 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,840 our audit services every three years 1794 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760 like this, it doesn't become a 1795 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,159 relationship where we make may feel like 1796 01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:12,000 they've done something wrong or we're 1797 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,000 not serving us well. It's a policy that 1798 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,679 we've written in the Greek poo. Same 1799 01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:18,000 with our uh legal representation. At 1800 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,600 five years, council would take up the 1801 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,679 item, talk about it, see if we want to 1802 01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:26,560 go out for um you know, uh proposals. 1803 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,239 Thank you. I couldn't remember it was 1804 01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:30,400 bit of proposal, but it doesn't become a 1805 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,800 relationship where, you know, we imply 1806 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,320 that we're unsatisfied. It's just kind 1807 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,080 of a routine schedule of maintenance is 1808 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,159 the goal for this. I tried to capture 1809 01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,920 everything. Of course, if I miss 1810 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,320 something, um, you know, that might need 1811 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,000 to be taken up. The only policy that's 1812 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,760 not in here is this policy itself. Um, 1813 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,719 so that explains that. Does anyone have 1814 01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:58,310 any questions for me about it? 1815 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,880 » Any other comments or concerns? 1816 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,040 >> All right. All in favor? Yes, sir. 1817 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,760 >> I'd like to comment, please. 1818 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,920 To start, remember this is not simply a 1819 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,320 schedule that is being posted on a 1820 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,960 office wall as a reminder to anyone as 1821 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,880 to when it might be good to review the 1822 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,840 listed policies. No, this is a policy 1823 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,159 obscinely restricting anyone from 1824 01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:24,640 considering updating outside of this 1825 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,520 arbitrary timeline. 1826 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,600 Anyone is already free to create their 1827 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,440 own schedule for themselves as to when 1828 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,120 might be a good time to review the 1829 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,159 listed policy. Everyone is free not to 1830 01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:38,400 present up to policy for council 1831 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,080 consideration based on their own 1832 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,640 schedule. This resolution is designed to 1833 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,800 prevent council members who wish to take 1834 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,600 up reviewing or updating council policy 1835 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,000 from submitting and or improving any 1836 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,960 such improvements to their policy. 1837 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,840 Council, I will ask you to consider who 1838 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,640 this resolution serves as it certainly 1839 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,320 does not serve council and their 1840 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,480 legislative duties. It serves to 1841 01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,640 restricts council's ability to serve the 1842 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,199 city and its citizens as well as it 1843 01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:09,360 violates open meeting act and the 1844 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,560 attorney general's opinion on such the 1845 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,400 mayor's mindset regarding council 1846 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,719 carrying out their official duties is on 1847 01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:19,040 full display again. She thinks that our 1848 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,800 legislative responsibilities are 1849 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,840 excessive and redundant. This policy 1850 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,840 attempts to supersede or alter our 1851 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,320 conduct of meetings policy by creating 1852 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,800 additional hardships and barriers and 1853 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,560 additional bureaucracy on auton 1854 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,960 council's ability to respond in a timely 1855 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,000 manner to situations as they arise. 1856 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,480 Council needs to remain nimble and free 1857 01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,360 to address issues as they see fit. The 1858 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,600 intent of this policy is to make it more 1859 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,000 difficult to present items on council's 1860 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,840 agenda. I mean, what the heck? a 1861 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,880 unanimous vote before even allowing an 1862 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,260 item to land on the agenda 1863 01:20:54,260 --> 01:20:54,960 [clears throat] 1864 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,360 and then creating an additional high 1865 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,000 threshold of a supermajority vote to 1866 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,239 approve that item when no state law 1867 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:05,440 requires such thresholds. 1868 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:08,400 The resolution states stated threshold 1869 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,040 of requiring a unanimous vote in order 1870 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,600 for council to submit an item related to 1871 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,400 any listed issue violates the open 1872 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,199 meetings act in that while council is 1873 01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:22,159 free to create a policy governing their 1874 01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:25,199 agenda preparation. The net effect of 1875 01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:28,080 such policies cannot preclude a council 1876 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,480 member from placing an item on their 1877 01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:33,199 agenda for public discussion. Also, the 1878 01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:35,440 attorney general's opinion as to the 1879 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:37,760 opens meeting that as it relates to 1880 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,080 council's ability to place items on 1881 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,560 council's agenda is that it is important 1882 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,840 to ensure that policy requires no more 1883 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,880 than two council members to agree to 1884 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,600 place an item on the agenda. Attorney 1885 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,560 General number DN-228193. 1886 01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,159 As a result, an item can only be removed 1887 01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,000 from the agenda by the council member 1888 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,239 who placed it on the agenda or by a 1889 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:07,280 majority vote of council at an open 1890 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:13,280 meeting. This re resolution goes far, beyond that. Imagine if council were 1891 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,040 to create a policy that required a 1892 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,960 unanimous vote for any item that the 1893 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,719 mayor may wish to submit to council's 1894 01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:20,960 agenda and that in order for the mayor's 1895 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,600 item to pass required a supermajority 1896 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,719 vote. If that sounds shocking to you, 1897 01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:28,800 and you are not opposed to the mayor 1898 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,320 attempting to obstruct council's 1899 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,320 official duties and their ability to 1900 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,560 place items on their own agenda with 1901 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,800 this ridiculous resolution, I would ask 1902 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,000 that you review your reaction. If you 1903 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,880 are horrified by my hypothetical 1904 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,880 restriction regarding the mayor, how can 1905 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,719 you not be glorified by the mayor's 1906 01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:48,639 attempt to restrict the very legislative 1907 01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:51,040 body that is given the responsibility to 1908 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,600 legislate? We are an aldermatic form of 1909 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,639 government. 1910 01:22:54,639 --> 01:22:56,880 A beautiful, sometimes cumbersome, 1911 01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,440 elegant form of democracy. Council is 1912 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:02,080 the governing body. Council's agenda is 1913 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,239 named such for a reason. It is not 1914 01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:05,920 called the mayor's agenda. It is 1915 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,080 council's agenda. Council is a 1916 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,000 legislated branch of this government. 1917 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,800 Legislative and policymaking power rests 1918 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,199 exclusively with the full city council. 1919 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,280 The mayor is the chief executive 1920 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,000 officer. the mayor execute council's 1921 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,239 action as well as prepares the proposed 1922 01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:24,320 budget and is the emergency manager. 1923 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,639 Nothing in those state listed duties of 1924 01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:29,280 a mayor is about creating policy. That 1925 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,679 responsibility rests entirely on 1926 01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:33,920 council's shoulders. 1927 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,520 If council does move forward with 1928 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,840 approving this resolution as presented, 1929 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,880 let's consider what effect that has on 1930 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,960 council's ability to address situation 1931 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,840 and changes as they present themselves. 1932 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,239 For instance, the city administr 1933 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,080 administrator recently presented to 1934 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,639 council an interesting idea that council 1935 01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:54,719 seemed to support which would require 1936 01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:57,440 council to update the liaison policy and 1937 01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,920 create the city clerk as the new leaison 1938 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,760 for advisory boards and remove the mayor 1939 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,080 from that role. This resolution would 1940 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,320 could prevent anyone, council members, 1941 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,560 the mayor or staff from presenting an 1942 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,719 updated liaison policy on council's 1943 01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:13,280 agenda without first obtaining the toma 1944 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,280 violating requirement of a unanimous 1945 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,840 vote. Imagine one member of council 1946 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,760 could prevent the update to the liaison 1947 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,239 policy even though a majority of council 1948 01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,159 may support the change or even a 1949 01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:26,719 supermajority as this policy describes. 1950 01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:29,520 This resolution states the first time an 1951 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,360 update to the liaison policy could be 1952 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,840 considered is in 2028. 1953 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,159 Remember this resolution would go into 1954 01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:39,600 effect immediately upon passage. 1955 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,760 You may be thinking to yourself, but 1956 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,360 council would understand that an update 1957 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,280 to the VAN policy would need to come 1958 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,360 before council. Therefore, it is obvious 1959 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,199 that a unanimous vote would be would 1960 01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:51,679 occur. But remember that council is not 1961 01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:53,440 allowed to discuss the content of a 1962 01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,520 proposed future business item being 1963 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,159 presented. Coun a council member may 1964 01:24:58,159 --> 01:24:59,760 simply state they wish could bring an 1965 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,080 update to the leaison policy or any 1966 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,080 policy during the future business 1967 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,239 portion of an agenda and council would 1968 01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:09,040 be voting on allowing that item to onto 1969 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,480 the agenda. And yet one nay vote would 1970 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:14,400 prevent that item being considered by 1971 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,800 the rest of council when if council was 1972 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,800 allowed to consider the item it may have 1973 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,040 passed. So giving the power to one 1974 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,880 member of council to preclude other 1975 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,719 members of council from being able to 1976 01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,040 add an item to council's agenda would be 1977 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,280 a disservice to the majority of council 1978 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,360 good leg legislative practice and 1979 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,239 frankly violates TOMA. Again, the net 1980 01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:36,960 effect of city policies cannot prevent a 1981 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,440 council member from placing an item on 1982 01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:42,400 their agenda for public discussion. 1983 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,800 Interestingly enough, I submitted an 1984 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,639 item and received a required second 1985 01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:48,800 months ago to update the conduct of 1986 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,480 meetings policy which includes the 1987 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,960 agenda preparation guidelines. And if 1988 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,800 council were to adopt this resolution 1989 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,719 before you as presented, it would 1990 01:25:56,719 --> 01:25:58,480 prevent my item from coming before 1991 01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,480 council. The reason I am bringing this 1992 01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,480 update to the count conduct of meeting 1993 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:04,320 relates to this very issue I am 1994 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,239 addressing which is that I see that the 1995 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,560 mayor is interpreting policy 1996 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,400 restrictions should only be applied to 1997 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,159 council members when policy clearly 1998 01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:15,120 states that is the item not the who 1999 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,679 restrictions apply to. I'm not sure that 2000 01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:19,360 council intended that council members 2001 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,440 would have a more difficult time placing 2002 01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:24,239 items on their own agenda than anyone 2003 01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:25,920 else being wish to place items in front 2004 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,239 of council. I certainly did not intend 2005 01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:29,840 the policy to be applied like that when 2006 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,639 I voted I. The mayor certainly does not 2007 01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:34,480 apply these policy restrictions to her 2008 01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,960 own items which she wishes council to 2009 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,600 consider. It should be noted that I have 2010 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,440 submitted items that I ultimately 2011 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:43,199 withdrew because the mayor created 2012 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:45,280 additional steps and requirements not 2013 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,600 listed in our submission policy in order 2014 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,840 for my item submission to be 2015 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,880 on the agenda. So I remove submitting. 2016 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,880 That is not how this should work. Nor 2017 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,440 should my mayor consider herself an 2018 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:01,280 adversary to council legislative 2019 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,440 responsibilities to consider and 2020 01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:07,120 entertain ideas beyond her own. Again, 2021 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,120 this is the same issue. Council's 2022 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,679 ability to place items on their council 2023 01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:14,800 agenda and respond to situations, 2024 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,440 changes, and new ideas. Council's 2025 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,040 legislative duty should not be 2026 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,199 obstructed in this manner and it should 2027 01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:23,600 not be imposed by an arbitrary schedule 2028 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,800 and extreme threshold that is seen in 2029 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,040 this resolution. There is another aspect 2030 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,719 to this schedule that I wish to bring to 2031 01:27:30,719 --> 01:27:32,880 your attention which is that some of the 2032 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,239 policies listed are scheduled for two 3 2033 01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:39,040 and 5 years before allowed to be 2034 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,880 considered by this or any future 2035 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,280 council. Council's terms are for two 2036 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,080 years though staggered. Imagine someone 2037 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,080 running for council on a particular idea 2038 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,239 of updating one of these policies and 2039 01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:52,480 the citizens elect that person to 2040 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:54,880 office. There is a likelihood if this 2041 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,880 resolution is adopted as president 2042 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,520 presented that they could be prevented 2043 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,840 from ever being able to represent the 2044 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,480 citizens and present the policy update 2045 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:06,880 to council. Remember, this resolution 2046 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,360 attempts to create a unanimous vote 2047 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,679 threshold to even consider an any of the 2048 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:16,239 policy items listed. 2049 01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:18,080 But let's break it down to the basics. 2050 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,480 As it currently stands, in order for a 2051 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,120 council member to sit and submit an item 2052 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,280 to council's agenda, they must first 2053 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,199 request a second from another council 2054 01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:29,840 member before during the future business 2055 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,239 portion of an regular council meeting. 2056 01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,239 And then the submitted item will be 2057 01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:36,880 placed on council's agenda between 3 to 2058 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,199 6 months in the future after meeting 2059 01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:40,719 certain requirements such as meetings 2060 01:28:40,719 --> 01:28:42,480 with the city administrator if the item 2061 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:45,440 proposes to spend money etc. By not 2062 01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:48,080 adopting this resolution as presented 2063 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,280 all that still stands. This resolution 2064 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,719 restricts 30 restricts 36 issues from 2065 01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:57,280 being taken up outside of this arbitrary 2066 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,120 schedule. It creates a total of 2067 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,760 violation by requiring more than two 2068 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,159 members approving placing an item on 2069 01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:06,159 council's agenda. It creates the 2070 01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:08,159 possible violation of preventing a 2071 01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:10,239 member of council being able to submit 2072 01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:12,400 items to council's agenda. And it 2073 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,800 creates a supermajority vote to approve 2074 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,520 such review or updates where no such 2075 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,000 threshold is legally required. It 2076 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,320 attempts to strike at the very heart the 2077 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,400 bedrock principle of council's ability 2078 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,040 to legislate and control their agenda. 2079 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,560 Let the mayor or staff place the 2080 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,400 schedule on their walls as reminders to 2081 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,880 themselves as to when it might be a good 2082 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,600 time to review and take a look at 2083 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,679 updating the policies listed, but leave 2084 01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:39,920 in the dumpster outback any attempts at 2085 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,080 restricting council's ability to respond 2086 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,639 to real life. There appears to be a 2087 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:46,800 motive of efficiency in this resolution. 2088 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,719 I would argue that it is more efficient 2089 01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:50,960 for this legislative body to get things 2090 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,040 right and working for the citizens of 2091 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,280 our fair city than to simply allow an 2092 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,719 issue to go unreed for years. Sometimes 2093 01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:00,560 getting it right involves trying things 2094 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,400 out and seeing what works and seeing 2095 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,120 what doesn't work. Why would anyone 2096 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,520 consider good practice to restrict their 2097 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,840 own ability to learn and make things 2098 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,159 better? It's amazing this policies 2099 01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:14,239 policy is being presented by a former 2100 01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:15,840 educator. 2101 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,920 I do not believe that it is good 2102 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,159 leadership to set up a situation where 2103 01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:22,400 everyone fails because they place 2104 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,040 arbitrary additional restrictions on any 2105 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,920 attempts to correct or even simply 2106 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,719 review their own work. Life and the 2107 01:30:30,719 --> 01:30:32,480 changes that come with them do not abide 2108 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:35,280 by arbitrary schedules, nor do new ideas 2109 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,679 and perspectives about issues. Sometimes 2110 01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:39,199 you have to try something out for a bit 2111 01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:40,800 before you realize there are elements of 2112 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,360 it that do not work. Council needs the 2113 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,760 flexibility to easily address those 2114 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,760 non-working elements or changes in 2115 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,239 perspective unobstructed. It should not 2116 01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:51,760 be the mayor's decision as to what 2117 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,480 qualifies as excessive and redundant 2118 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:57,280 review and updating of policies. 2119 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,679 Council's action should remain with the 2120 01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:03,120 legislative body who to decide on base a 2121 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,560 case-bycase basis. Simply put, this is 2122 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,623 bad policy in its current state. 2123 01:31:10,623 --> 01:31:12,000 >> [clears throat and cough] 2124 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,880 >> Mayor, yeah, if possible, um, maybe some 2125 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,639 clarifications might help. Um, for the 2126 01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:20,800 record, standard, 2127 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,280 city attorney, factually in my 2128 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,560 experience, usually a resolution is a 2129 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,600 directive to staff on administrative 2130 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,000 matters. And usually with contracts, 2131 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,159 contract administration, 2132 01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:37,600 routine review, having a tickler system 2133 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,480 to kind of bring things back to council. 2134 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:44,560 Um, a resolution is a mere uh statement 2135 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,600 of this administration's 2136 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,880 um approach, directive. 2137 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,159 Um, it is not the same thing as city 2138 01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:59,040 code. the resolution as drafted. 2139 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,960 I did review it. I didn't catch any 2140 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,080 issues. I think that's 2141 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,560 with all due respect to Council Member 2142 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,080 Grummer. 2143 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,360 He's real good at analyzing things and 2144 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,600 spotting issues. 2145 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,719 I I think there's a little bit of overly 2146 01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:21,920 broad concern based on hypotheticals. 2147 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,280 The resolution is preempted by state law 2148 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,639 in numerous ways. Uh first the Texas 2149 01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:30,960 Constitution, you can't bind future 2150 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,480 administrations. 2151 01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:35,760 You can revisit your own motions and 2152 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,600 orders. Um, for example, state statute 2153 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,679 in the financial provisions in the local 2154 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:45,040 government code, chapter 111, 2155 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:49,280 a bank depository contract has to go out 2156 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,440 for um solicitation 2157 01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:56,560 every 5 years. You you're not change 2158 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,600 this resolution does not change state 2159 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,679 law. It does not change the open 2160 01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:04,960 meetings act. It's 2161 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,080 more of a 2162 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:13,920 best practices approach with the intent 2163 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,480 of capturing concepts like contract 2164 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:18,880 management, revisiting things. It's more 2165 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,679 of a of a 2166 01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:24,320 aspirational approach. It's not 2167 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,320 something that's drafted to prohibit 2168 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,600 this body from addressing things that 2169 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,360 have to be addressed. So, um the the 2170 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,480 resolution is is fine in my legal 2171 01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:42,080 opinion as to legal form. 2172 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,120 Um and it's up to the local governing 2173 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,199 body to make its local rules. 2174 01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:50,960 So, I hope that helps. 2175 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:56,080 >> Nice. If I may, since it was my item, um 2176 01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:01,360 I I do want to kind of um highlight some 2177 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:05,120 large or strong wording used. So, this 2178 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,000 does not prevent a council member from 2179 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,040 submitting an item. What it says is this 2180 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,440 is the timeline for when certain items 2181 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:16,400 will come back up. So, there is no 2182 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,880 prohibited motion there. every November, 2183 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,320 for example, the council rules and 2184 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,760 meeting procedure would come back up and 2185 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,920 a council member could submit the item 2186 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,040 in advance with a second and then the 2187 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,040 reconsideration would come onto the 2188 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,239 agenda and in my mind by asking for the 2189 01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:36,400 unanimous approval that was protecting 2190 01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,199 the entire body. That was my intent 2191 01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:42,560 because you all would then collectively 2192 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,639 decide if you wanted to bring back up 2193 01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:47,360 that policy again. And actually there 2194 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:52,239 was a a history here. So not a future um 2195 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:54,480 hypothetical that occurred. We actually 2196 01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:56,400 took up the council rules and meetings 2197 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,880 procedure policy I think three or four 2198 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,880 times in a a two month period one time 2199 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,520 uh with council squabbbling over details 2200 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,320 in it. And while I respect that process, 2201 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,480 that was very, very difficult for staff 2202 01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,719 and the administrative team leading the 2203 01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:15,120 city at the time because it repetitively 2204 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,400 changed how our meetings ran like back 2205 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,560 to back to back. And so that was part of 2206 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,520 that. Um, so that that isn't being 2207 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:24,960 changed. You all would still have the 2208 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,480 right to bring things up. It would just 2209 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,480 require all of y'all agreeing to do that 2210 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:30,320 after you've already agreed to pass 2211 01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,000 something. That's the other thing is 2212 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,760 this. These are not new policies. I 2213 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,520 haven't snuck anything in there. These 2214 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,920 are things that y'all all voted on. For 2215 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,000 example, the county council meetings and 2216 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,480 rules and procedure policy you all 2217 01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:45,679 unanimously approved just in January, 2218 01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:47,840 >> right? So to already be bringing that 2219 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,159 back up in three months, I felt 2220 01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:52,800 personally was a little disrespectful 2221 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,120 towards council. The only reason that 2222 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,080 item isn't on an agenda already is 2223 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,080 because council member Gummer expressed 2224 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,760 that he would not be in this meeting 2225 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,440 today. Right. So the next possible 2226 01:36:05,440 --> 01:36:07,520 meeting he could have had it was in 2227 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,520 August because at the timeline of when 2228 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,440 we'd submitted we were already 2229 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:14,159 publishing the June agenda and he was 2230 01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,639 told that agenda was full with other 2231 01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:18,800 administrative items. So he was not 2232 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,120 rejected. He expressed at that time the 2233 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,760 next time would be August. I have with 2234 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,040 him communicated with another item. He 2235 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:28,960 declined to have it placed because he 2236 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,239 wanted to wait until the entire 2237 01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:32,000 comprehensive plan process was in 2238 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,000 process for the survey questions to come 2239 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,639 back up. He did revoke a surveillance 2240 01:36:36,639 --> 01:36:39,040 policy item. We all had that discussion 2241 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,520 with Stan in a meeting actually where 2242 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:45,440 the reason I asked for him to have an a 2243 01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:48,000 an additional obstacle as he called it 2244 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,239 is I asked for the policy to be legally 2245 01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:52,480 reviewed and I highlighted that part of 2246 01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:54,400 it was an ordinance and part of it was a 2247 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,880 resolution and that neither portions 2248 01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,520 were prepared in those formats and I 2249 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,480 requested that he break them out. I also 2250 01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,080 cautioned on the use of government 2251 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,840 surveillance or public surveillance 2252 01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,719 terminology and as we presented in that 2253 01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:10,480 meeting that was not the appropriate 2254 01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,040 terminology for the security cameras we 2255 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,800 were attempting to assault. So I am 2256 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,800 explaining myself there because I don't 2257 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,159 appreciate the um misconception of my 2258 01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,400 actions. Also I just reviewed the 2259 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,960 council liaison policy and actually we 2260 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,679 revoked we repealed the council liaison 2261 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:30,400 policy. Um what's in place now is 2262 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,560 actually just says I'm the liazison 2263 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,480 which as I communicated in that meeting 2264 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:36,639 I would still be serving in those roles. 2265 01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:38,480 I just wouldn't necessarily be attending 2266 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:40,320 the meetings. I would be watching them 2267 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:41,920 and I would still be the representative 2268 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,480 between the two boards. So that's not 2269 01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:49,440 actually um an issue there either. Um 2270 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:50,880 you know I I don't think there's 2271 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,560 anything wrong with this policy. 2272 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,360 Obviously I brought it up. Um, I um 2273 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,440 firmly reject the concept that this 2274 01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,920 wouldn't apply to me because if I needed 2275 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,000 to bring up any of these policies, I 2276 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,560 would have to follow this policy. So, I 2277 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,960 don't circumvent it. For every item I 2278 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,520 bring to you all, I get a second. The 2279 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,000 only items that I don't do that with are 2280 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,679 not things I'm a sponsor for, meaning 2281 01:38:15,679 --> 01:38:17,760 they're administrative tasks that 2282 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,920 maintenance the function of our city or 2283 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,920 they're coming from other boards or 2284 01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,280 other entities. Um and so those you know 2285 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,679 most of that if anything has been new 2286 01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:29,440 has been brought forward with the second 2287 01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:32,800 as well. So, isn't it 2288 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,440 >> I just wanted to say that 2289 01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:38,960 I read this more in the the light of 2290 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,080 what our our attorney said is that it 2291 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,920 struck me from the beginning as things 2292 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,320 that had always been important to me in 2293 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,960 administration of government and that's 2294 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,239 better practices not 2295 01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:56,880 missing deadlines, legal deadlines and I 2296 01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,520 and and contract agent 2297 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,159 but that's our our responsibility 2298 01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,719 and I just I didn't see anything in this 2299 01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:14,629 that would restrict us from coming back. 2300 01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:17,440 Um well there are a few things already 2301 01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:19,760 that I'd like to see changed. I'd like 2302 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,760 to see golf cart crossing paintings 2303 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,119 more often than every three years. 2304 01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:30,880 That's just not often enough. Um, I'd 2305 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,639 like to see the audit services changed. 2306 01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:37,360 Uh, not limited three years. We 2307 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,239 continued our audit year this year 2308 01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:43,840 because it was necessary for the pro 2309 01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,679 progress. I think this is way too far 2310 01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:51,360 and I would like for council member to 2311 01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:55,600 restate his original motion. I was 2312 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,880 trying to understand all the facets of 2313 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,480 it. You know, I didn't have the 2314 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:05,040 opportunity to um say that. 2315 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,639 >> Well, you did have an opportunity. 2316 01:40:06,639 --> 01:40:08,719 Second, you didn't feel like there was 2317 01:40:08,719 --> 01:40:09,840 enough time, 2318 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,960 >> but I I mean, if I may, 2319 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:18,400 um to me, the conversations here 2320 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,679 sort of we we agree that you know, a a 2321 01:40:21,679 --> 01:40:24,320 schedule is a good thing. It seems like 2322 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,679 the main sticking point is requiring a 2323 01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:31,040 unanimous vote um and a supermajority 2324 01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:36,880 vote um where I I personally don't think 2325 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,400 that the the schedule or the resolution 2326 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:44,400 um would suffer by just removing that 2327 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,440 one clause. And I would offer an 2328 01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:50,719 amendment that um the clause on 2329 01:40:50,719 --> 01:40:53,280 requiring unanimous vote 2330 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,199 um for discussion um be scripted. 2331 01:40:57,199 --> 01:40:58,880 >> Second. 2332 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,880 >> All right. Amendment on the table 2333 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,159 strikes under the third resolve 2334 01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:06,080 require a unanimous vote from the 2335 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,600 governing body to take up for 2336 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,119 discussion. 2337 01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:10,800 >> Second. 2338 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,480 >> That's that's great. I don't have a 2339 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:13,679 problem with that amendment. I would 2340 01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:15,280 like to speak to my intentions that 2341 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,199 someone chose to spoke for for me 2342 01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:20,239 tonight. Again, it's was just to protect 2343 01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:22,880 you all so that we don't have one or two 2344 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,320 council members submitting things 2345 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,800 repetitively or wanting to reconsider 2346 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,159 things after you all have voted. 2347 01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:33,360 So that was it 2348 01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,440 >> and that was an amendment. 2349 01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:38,560 >> I would amend second by council. 2350 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,560 >> Oh yeah, I didn't hear that. Thank you. 2351 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,960 >> Thank you. And that is based on reality 2352 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,920 because over the course of the last five 2353 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,320 years that has said occurred at least 2354 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,600 three different times. 2355 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:50,639 >> What has occurred 2356 01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:53,360 >> where a single 2357 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,360 this is not a hypothetical this occurred 2358 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:56,239 here 2359 01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:58,719 >> where policies were brought back 2360 01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:00,639 repetitively 2361 01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:02,880 um because a single council member was 2362 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,440 not and it wasn't a single person 2363 01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:07,280 either. This was three to four different 2364 01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,760 people bringing back policies every 2365 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,000 single meeting to tweak and tweak and 2366 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,520 tweak because they didn't get their way 2367 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,080 in the previous meeting. So, we spent 2368 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,119 probably about six hours total on one 2369 01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:21,760 policy um ping ponging back and forth 2370 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,239 again in another one. 2371 01:42:24,239 --> 01:42:27,679 I know that you might find no problem 2372 01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:29,920 with that, but I can tell you from 2373 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,119 working with three different 2374 01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:34,239 administrative staffs now that our staff 2375 01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:37,600 does not appreciate when our council 2376 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,040 cannot give them a clear directive and 2377 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,679 stick to it. It becomes very difficult 2378 01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:46,560 to manage this city. We have lost two 2379 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,000 previous city administrators over these 2380 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,040 kind of things. If I'm being completely 2381 01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:54,719 honest, obviously they also left for 2382 01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:58,239 other reasons, but these were huge 2383 01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:00,960 complaints from them. So my goal with 2384 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,800 this was to create a protection for all 2385 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,159 of us and our time and you guys have 2386 01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:11,119 struck that point. So that's address. I 2387 01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:13,119 just wanted to speak for myself instead 2388 01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:16,159 of having somebody um speak for me which 2389 01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:18,960 I don't find appropriate. 2390 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,719 You have spoken twice. Does anyone else 2391 01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:23,040 have any comments? You actually issued 2392 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,440 an original motion, spent over 6 minutes 2393 01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:27,199 speaking the first time. Does any other 2394 01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:28,560 council member have an additional 2395 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,639 comment before Chris Gmer speaks for 2396 01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:35,830 what he perceives to be his second time? 2397 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,560 » No. All right, Council Member Germit, 2398 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,320 >> you have the floor again. 2399 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,159 >> Over the last 5 years of service on 2400 01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:44,239 council, I can easily sum up what I've 2401 01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:46,560 stood up for and my goals as a 2402 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,320 representative of the citizens of this 2403 01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,960 fair city. that is that the beautiful 2404 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,520 and elegant system the state has handed 2405 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,679 down to us as an aldermatic form of 2406 01:43:55,679 --> 01:43:57,600 government here in Wood Creek is 2407 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,000 preserved and protected and even 2408 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,560 encouraged to become an exemplary 2409 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,679 example of democracy in action. I have 2410 01:44:05,679 --> 01:44:07,920 run on the very ideal of a government 2411 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,400 that works for the people. Believe me 2412 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,199 when I say I've gained no pleasure in 2413 01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:16,400 calling out where, when, and whom of us 2414 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,800 fail to uphold these others. I 2415 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,800 understand well the experiences of being 2416 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,600 called out for my own failings. 2417 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,760 I have spent these last five years 2418 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,320 researching, questioning, and fighting 2419 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,159 for the system of government by which 2420 01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:33,440 the citizens are best represented. It is 2421 01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,600 better to have a team of these five 2422 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,600 elected council members exploring the 2423 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,840 best path forward in representing the 2424 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,840 people than it is for one person to 2425 01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,840 attempt to make all the decisions. 2426 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,920 Regardless of how smart an individual 2427 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,639 may be, a single person has a hard time 2428 01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:51,440 finding their blinding spots or those 2429 01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:53,280 perspectives that they have not yet 2430 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,639 considered. Whereas five council members 2431 01:44:56,639 --> 01:44:59,280 of diverse perspectives, experiences, 2432 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,199 and ideas is more likely to find 2433 01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:04,320 solutions otherwise not considered. 2434 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,480 I want to apologize to the mayor for it 2435 01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,880 may seem to some that I have been giving 2436 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,960 her a hard time since she has taken this 2437 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:16,480 on this role as mayor. It is not because I don't think she is 2438 01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:18,960 capable and intelligent and fit for the 2439 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,600 role as mayor. Actually, it is quite the 2440 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,400 opposite. It is because I have such high 2441 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,480 standards for her, having known her 2442 01:45:26,480 --> 01:45:29,280 these many years, serving next to her, 2443 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,520 that I know she is more than capable of 2444 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,600 doing better for working towards 2445 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,760 representing the best of our community. 2446 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,480 It is because I care that she succeeds 2447 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,880 in her role that I may appear to push 2448 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,239 her harder. A long time ago, I 2449 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:46,159 approached a teacher of mine and told 2450 01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:48,080 her that I felt she was singling me out 2451 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,400 more than anyone else in the class and 2452 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:52,320 holding me to a higher standard than she 2453 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,560 was holding the other students. Her 2454 01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,119 response has always stayed with me. She 2455 01:45:57,119 --> 01:45:59,199 told me it is because she knows that I 2456 01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:02,000 am capable. That is why she is has a 2457 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,639 higher standard of criticism for me. If 2458 01:46:04,639 --> 01:46:06,719 she did not believe that I was capable, 2459 01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:09,280 she wouldn't waste her time. I hold 2460 01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,840 grace for all of us to grow and learn 2461 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,920 and become better at representing this 2462 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,320 beautiful messy democracy we find 2463 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,719 ourselves in. But I will also hold the 2464 01:46:18,719 --> 01:46:21,679 sword to fight for council's fundamental 2465 01:46:21,679 --> 01:46:25,119 ability to fully realize, discuss, 2466 01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:27,520 change their minds to create better 2467 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,440 solutions and to allow messy 2468 01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:31,840 disagreements to happen as part of that 2469 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,920 process. 2470 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,719 Things do not become better simply by 2471 01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:39,679 placing them on a shelf unexamined. They 2472 01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,920 need to be held up under scrutiny, 2473 01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,320 questioned, and called out. That doesn't 2474 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,960 mean you do not value it. It means you 2475 01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,040 value it more because you are willing to 2476 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,840 put in the effort. There is a pervasive 2477 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,760 mindset of us versus them in our 2478 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,159 community. But I will point out that very mindset also includes the go 2479 01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:00,880 along to get along which seems to float 2480 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,960 around in the air around here. 2481 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,840 That do not question mindset means you 2482 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,480 do not care whether the something truly 2483 01:47:08,480 --> 01:47:10,639 works or not because you place your own 2484 01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:12,880 feelings of belonging ahead of what 2485 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,520 actually might be right. I will admit I 2486 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,199 have fallen prey to this pervasive 2487 01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:20,239 settling. And what I mean pervasive is 2488 01:47:20,239 --> 01:47:22,719 that get along don't make waves mindset 2489 01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:25,280 expresses itself constantly around us 2490 01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,440 including such statements as come back 2491 01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:30,080 to the table to anyone who is different 2492 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,119 points of view than those at the table. 2493 01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:35,520 This mindset is the very process of 2494 01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,360 othering those who may disagree with 2495 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,920 your perspective and this othering 2496 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,560 creates you are either with us or you 2497 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,520 are outsider one of them. This mindset 2498 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,600 and its expression is immediately 2499 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,320 created the us versus them divisiveness 2500 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,639 that so many of this administration has 2501 01:47:52,639 --> 01:47:55,280 attempted to fuse in the past. It also 2502 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,280 attempts to invalidate someone's level 2503 01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,080 of commitment and voice on an issue. We 2504 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,040 are actually in this together. 2505 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,040 Being a mayor or a council member is not 2506 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,880 an easy thing to do in a small town such 2507 01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,520 as ours. But please let us not make a 2508 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,000 disagreement or a mistake become the 2509 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,480 only identifier of a person. While our 2510 01:48:14,480 --> 01:48:16,080 mayor presented this ridiculous 2511 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:17,920 resolution in front of us is a huge 2512 01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,400 mistake. I do not hold this one misstep 2513 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,040 as a sum of who she is. These service 2514 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:26,239 roles almost require that we will get 2515 01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:28,719 things wrong sometimes. And that is kind 2516 01:48:28,719 --> 01:48:31,360 of my whole point here. We need to allow 2517 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,679 ourselves the ability to learn to 2518 01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:35,840 correct things and to work to make 2519 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,239 things better. The resolution as 2520 01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:40,320 presented assumes that we are living in 2521 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,480 a non-changing world. That council has 2522 01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:44,239 previously made the best version of 2523 01:48:44,239 --> 01:48:47,280 policy ever to exist and no improvements 2524 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,440 can or should be made and that council 2525 01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:52,080 cannot learn anything new or adapt to 2526 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,239 any new new situation that may present 2527 01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:57,760 itself. That is unrealistic. 2528 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,760 It is one of the bedrock principles of 2529 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,719 council's process to review, discuss, 2530 01:49:02,719 --> 01:49:04,960 question the full implications, 2531 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,600 identify, and weigh the pros and cons 2532 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,600 and the context of something in order to 2533 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,840 create the best fit for our community. 2534 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,760 Though I sometimes wishfully entertain 2535 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,440 that I could wave a wand and there would 2536 01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:17,600 never be a conflict, I know that as 2537 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,400 often that very conflict that we should 2538 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,119 be exploring, differing perspectives can 2539 01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:25,520 create innovative solutions. to hamper 2540 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,199 that would to leave possibilities 2541 01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,679 undiscovered. Council should continue 2542 01:49:29,679 --> 01:49:31,360 preserving and protecting their 2543 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,520 legislative duties and responsibilities 2544 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,000 from any additional restrictions not 2545 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,159 already given to us by state and federal 2546 01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:40,560 law. We should all stand up and protect 2547 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,040 our obligations regardless of whether or 2548 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,159 not someone else finds our process 2549 01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:49,199 objectionable, messy, inefficient, 2550 01:49:49,199 --> 01:49:52,719 excessive, or redundant. 2551 01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:54,639 Council member Banning requested to read 2552 01:49:54,639 --> 01:49:56,880 your um failed motion. Would you please 2553 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:04,149 do so? 2554 01:50:04,159 --> 01:50:07,440 » I move that council directs staff andor 2555 01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:09,920 the city attorney to make the following 2556 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,639 edits and return the draft resolution to 2557 01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:14,960 council for approval. 2558 01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,239 The edits are to remove the third and 2559 01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:20,239 final result section from this 2560 01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:23,199 resolution and any creation of a 2561 01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:26,000 threshold higher for submission 2562 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,560 of any item to council's agendas or 2563 01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,360 council's final approval on an item on 2564 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,520 council's agenda than legally required 2565 01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,719 by state law and remove the entire 2566 01:50:36,719 --> 01:50:39,440 section regarding policy and any 2567 01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,520 reference to in the document pertaining 2568 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,080 to such specifically the whereas 2569 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,239 statement about excessive and redundant 2570 01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:49,040 policy review, leaving only the sections 2571 01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,119 named infrastructure and asset 2572 01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:54,080 maintenance and contract services and 2573 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,000 that the resolution makes clear that 2574 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,000 only these two sections are being 2575 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,239 addressed by this draft resolution 2576 01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:01,840 including the warehouse and resolved 2577 01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,199 sections. 2578 01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:04,960 >> Do we have any further That's not a 2579 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,440 motion. Um he did not make an amendment. 2580 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:09,360 He was responding to your question. Miss 2581 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:10,159 Leard, 2582 01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:12,400 >> just very quickly, I I believe that 2583 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,040 council member Rasco's 2584 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,000 amendment addresses many of the things 2585 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,679 that council member 2586 01:51:21,679 --> 01:51:23,920 just outlined 2587 01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,880 in the ability to bring back 2588 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,119 items to council without the unanimous 2589 01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:34,239 approval of such. That's true. 2590 01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:35,760 >> All right. Any other additional 2591 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:40,159 discussion on this item? Hearing 2592 01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:41,599 none, you will all have the opportunity 2593 01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:43,280 to vote. All in favor of passing this 2594 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,280 resolution with the amendment to strike 2595 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,639 require unanimous vote from the 2596 01:51:46,639 --> 01:51:48,480 governing body, please raise your hand 2597 01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:49,119 and say I. 2598 01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:50,560 >> You still need to vote on the amendment 2599 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:51,199 first. 2600 01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:53,760 >> Oh, apolog No, really? I thought that 2601 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:55,040 Oh, apologies. 2602 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,639 >> Yeah. So, we'll vote on the amendment. 2603 01:51:56,639 --> 01:51:59,520 All in favor of the amendment to strike 2604 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:00,960 require unanimous vote from the 2605 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,320 governing body, please raise your hand 2606 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:03,199 and say I. 2607 01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:04,400 >> I. 2608 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,560 >> So, that is a unanimous vote, I believe. 2609 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,360 I Yeah. And then on the full main 2610 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,360 motion, it would be to approve 2611 01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:15,750 resolution number 2026-07-08-02 2612 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,280 establishing a schedule for routine 2613 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,880 maintenance contract review policy 2614 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,800 review for the city of Lake Creek with 2615 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,480 the amendment to strike under the third 2616 01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:24,960 resolve require unanimous vote from the 2617 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,800 governing body to take up this for 2618 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,119 discussion. Please raise your hand and 2619 01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:31,199 say I. 2620 01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:35,040 >> Three eyes. It passes. Nay. Nay. 2621 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:41,910 >> Two nays. 2622 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,880 And I apologize because um I made a 2623 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,639 statement that this policy isn't 2624 01:52:46,639 --> 01:52:50,159 addressed but it is in the end. I was 2625 01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:51,679 meaning that it's not addressed in the 2626 01:52:51,679 --> 01:52:55,398 chart and I'm sorry about that 2627 01:52:55,398 --> 01:52:56,400 [clears throat] 2628 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,280 >> question on procedure. 2629 01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,400 Does this prevent previously approved 2630 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,199 items from coming on to? It doesn't 2631 01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:06,639 prevent them. It would come up in 2632 01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:08,719 November after the election, heard this 2633 01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:11,199 policy, unless a council member wanted 2634 01:53:11,199 --> 01:53:13,360 to bring it up and have a second. 2635 01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,040 >> And then your your item can come back in 2636 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,679 August. What this says is that it would 2637 01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:21,679 require a super majority vote to pass 2638 01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:23,199 it. [clears throat] 2639 01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:25,119 >> No, we struck that. 2640 01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:29,599 >> No, we struck unanimous vote for 2641 01:53:29,599 --> 01:53:32,719 my was 2642 01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:37,280 >> Yeah. Uh Jeff made sorry 2643 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,040 required unanimous vote for discussion 2644 01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,280 to be stricken. 2645 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:42,320 That's it. 2646 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:47,119 >> What I said was that the clause 2647 01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:49,119 >> the clause requiring the unanimous vote 2648 01:53:49,119 --> 01:53:49,760 for 2649 01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,719 >> me. That's not what was stated but we 2650 01:53:52,719 --> 01:53:55,119 can retract and go back if there is 2651 01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:57,840 confusion here. What was stated was the 2652 01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,080 clause and then you 2653 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,480 >> only read that section. I was motion to 2654 01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:04,080 be considered silent. 2655 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,920 >> I hear you. I'm just explaining that 2656 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,679 when I restated it, none of that was 2657 01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:09,440 ever corrected. When I stated what the 2658 01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:12,719 amendment was, nobody corrected that. 2659 01:54:12,719 --> 01:54:15,679 >> So you're to be clear trying to strike 2660 01:54:15,679 --> 01:54:17,520 the entire resolve section. 2661 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,719 >> That was my intent. 2662 01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:19,199 >> Okay. 2663 01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:23,189 >> And that's what I regret. 2664 01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:25,760 » Okay. So 2665 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,920 we will reconsider the amendment first. 2666 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:31,520 So everyone's clear. You're striking 2667 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,320 that entire section. All in favor of 2668 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,239 striking the third resolve in its 2669 01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:38,159 entirety, please raise your hand and say 2670 01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:38,880 I. 2671 01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,320 >> I. 2672 01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,199 >> Unanimous I. All in favor of passing the 2673 01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:45,199 policy with that entire sectional 2674 01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:46,880 struck, please raise your hand and say 2675 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:47,520 I. 2676 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:48,480 >> I. 2677 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,560 >> Three eyes. Passes. Nays. Two. 2678 01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,040 >> All right. Um, I would like to have 2679 01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,880 discussion about your item at a later 2680 01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,679 time, Mr. marked and whenever we are 2681 01:54:59,679 --> 01:55:01,679 both maybe of cooler heads and not 2682 01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:04,159 having um been in a meeting with 2683 01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:07,840 everyone for 8 or till 8:00 right 2684 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,239 >> mayor if I make a quick comment 2685 01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:12,639 >> there are always emergency situations 2686 01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:14,880 where you know something can be brought 2687 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:19,440 to council there always situations 2688 01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:24,000 um that may require revisiting a policy 2689 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,440 or a code for example the state 2690 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,480 legislature passes new rules and you 2691 01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,119 need to amend your local rules there. So 2692 01:55:33,119 --> 01:55:36,080 there's there's always situations 2693 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,280 um I'm reading the policy to be a 2694 01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,920 baseline for example on road 2695 01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:44,560 um 2696 01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:45,119 >> regulations 2697 01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:46,639 >> regulation 2698 01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:50,560 devices you know the three years is is 2699 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:54,560 again that's a minimum a baseline. It 2700 01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,360 doesn't necessarily preclude 2701 01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,239 if there's an engineering study or if 2702 01:56:00,239 --> 01:56:02,800 there's if there's a compelling need to 2703 01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,040 bring something back. It's just to 2704 01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:09,119 revisit it every 3 years or whatever. 2705 01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:12,480 And but there's but you can address 2706 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:16,480 emergency repairs. you can address um 2707 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:20,239 any needs that the city has 2708 01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:22,480 that if there's 2709 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,920 a legitimate need it can it can be uh 2710 01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,360 directed to staff or there's a way to 2711 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,880 get there is what I'm saying. So so 2712 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,119 again you're you're not boxed in 2713 01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:38,480 completely you there is some discretion 2714 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,920 obviously u based on the totality 2715 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,840 surface. So my question is a legal one 2716 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,440 in that it states. So the question is I 2717 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,840 submitted several months ago. 2718 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:51,920 >> No, in June, 2719 01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,960 >> May. I got my second in May. I actually 2720 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:59,350 submitted it in April 2721 01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:03,760 and I got my second in May or and 2722 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,639 council agreed to allow me to present 2723 01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:09,280 onto the agenda and update to the 2724 01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:11,440 conduct of meetings. 2725 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,280 Council member Grimmer, that is not on 2726 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:14,000 his agenda. 2727 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,159 >> I'm asking a legal question in regards 2728 01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:20,159 to the resolution we just passed. 2729 01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:23,360 The the the question is does the 2730 01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,199 structure of this resolution where it 2731 01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:28,719 says the update to 2732 01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:31,679 conductive uh update to the policy of 2733 01:57:31,679 --> 01:57:34,880 conductive meetings is no longer allowed 2734 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,080 until this dates much in the future 2735 01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,719 prevent my item that I've already been 2736 01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:44,080 approved to submit. 2737 01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:45,520 It's been sitting waiting for months 2738 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,920 before it land on agenda. which are 2739 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,440 >> these state facts. That is not true. 2740 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:54,320 >> I literally looked it up before I any of 2741 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:58,709 this. 2742 01:57:58,719 --> 01:58:00,560 » But he just said he just said this be 2743 01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,159 your minimum standard. Something that 2744 01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:03,840 has to come back earlier than what's on 2745 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,199 here. It [clears throat] comes back 2746 01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:06,320 earlier than what's on here. 2747 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,040 >> That's the question. This is not it's 2748 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,199 not stated as minimum standard. 2749 01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:14,000 >> The answer is this resolution does not 2750 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,480 expressly prohibit that. Thank you. 2751 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,280 >> Now the body 2752 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:22,880 makes its own rules and you can revisit 2753 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,360 rules whenever the body decides to 2754 01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,480 revisit rules pursuant to its 2755 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:33,440 procedures. Um so the the agenda item 2756 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:36,080 here is this resolution and the answer 2757 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:40,719 is no. It's not that restrictive. Um it 2758 01:58:40,719 --> 01:58:43,199 it's a presumptive 2759 01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:45,360 >> um baseline. 2760 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:46,239 >> So I 2761 01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:48,639 >> as I already told you earlier, your 2762 01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:51,040 thing will come up in August. The only 2763 01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,360 reason it didn't come up in sooner is 2764 01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,119 because you were told the June agenda 2765 01:58:55,119 --> 01:58:57,679 was full and you communicated you did 2766 01:58:57,679 --> 01:58:59,520 not intend to be here for this meeting 2767 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,760 >> and and we really need to focus on 2768 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,480 >> the agenda. Yeah. I ain't saying I'm 2769 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,800 just clarifying that this you're 2770 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,840 understanding everyone's understanding. 2771 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:10,800 >> Thank you. 2772 01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,080 >> Yes. 2773 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,599 >> Yeah. 2774 01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:19,430 Don't fall through the cracks. 2775 01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:23,119 » That's the way I look. 2776 01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:25,840 >> Are we done? Is everyone their piece? 2777 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:29,040 Thank you. We have a individual here 2778 01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,800 who's um represented for items six and 2779 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,119 seven. We will call our executive 2780 01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:36,880 session to consult and receive and seek 2781 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,840 advice from attorney pursuant to section 2782 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,159 551.071 2783 01:59:42,159 --> 01:59:44,000 of the Texas government code regarding 2784 01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,679 legal requirements and procedures for 2785 01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:47,520 issuance of building permits pursuant to 2786 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,760 chapter 151 of the city's code of 2787 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,679 ordinances including but not limited to 2788 01:59:51,679 --> 01:59:53,760 instances of applicant hardship and 2789 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,159 related legal considerations. 2790 01:59:56,159 --> 02:00:00,870 at 801. 2791 02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:04,000 Um, executive s 2792 02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:07,040 >> recording progress. 2793 02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,480 >> We're reconvening at 8:24. No action was 2794 02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,040 taken during the executive session. We 2795 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,840 do have uh a written public comment to 2796 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,760 read and then we do have the individual 2797 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:19,360 applying for the variance here. We'll 2798 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:20,880 read the written public comment first. 2799 02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:22,400 That's okay. and then we'll do the the 2800 02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:23,280 inerson. 2801 02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:24,480 >> Okay. 2802 02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,719 >> I should start timer. Sorry. 2803 02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:27,119 >> Sorry. 2804 02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:29,280 >> Um this individual submitted a total of 2805 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,719 three comments actually. So I we are the 2806 02:00:32,719 --> 02:00:35,040 we're going to start using the timer and 2807 02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:36,960 uh the city secretary will be reading 2808 02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,679 them. 2809 02:00:39,679 --> 02:00:44,320 >> Thank you to remove any u political 2810 02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:49,920 issues with this process. All right. Um 2811 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,920 go ahead. I notice number seven on our 2812 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:53,520 council's regular agenda deals with the 2813 02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,080 spokes law. If this is in any way deals 2814 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,679 with installation of an above ground 2815 02:00:57,679 --> 02:00:59,360 pool, please read by below objection 2816 02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,360 into the record. At the time this item 2817 02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,360 comes up for council's consideration as 2818 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,679 I'm unwilling to take a chance on 2819 02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:06,960 something that so much affects the 2820 02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:08,560 appearance of my neighborhood and the 2821 02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,239 value of our homes. I remain completely 2822 02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:11,679 opposed to these above ground pools. 2823 02:01:11,679 --> 02:01:13,199 Know that I want restrictions that may 2824 02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:14,960 go with them. The ordinance should be 2825 02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:16,880 left as is with no amendments whatsoever 2826 02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,040 in a trust of my opposition to any above 2827 02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:20,960 ground pool ordinance previously sent to 2828 02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,440 the city secretary. You and others will 2829 02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,440 be read by her at any city council 2830 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,599 meeting concerning these pools. Sorry, I 2831 02:01:27,599 --> 02:01:29,520 have practice law for over 15 years and 2832 02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,159 I've seen many unintended consequences 2833 02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:33,679 of situations like this where just a 2834 02:01:33,679 --> 02:01:35,199 small opening was left for someone to 2835 02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:37,119 later utilize like this drought 2836 02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:38,800 temporarily passing and someone putting 2837 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:40,960 in one of these pools before another one 2838 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:42,480 comes along. Thank you for your time and 2839 02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,440 your service. Lou Joseph and Elizabeth 2840 02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,440 23. 2841 02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,199 Please note our opposition to any city 2842 02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:50,800 ordinance in any shape or form which 2843 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,639 authorize any above ground swimming pool 2844 02:01:52,639 --> 02:01:54,880 construction. One, city already has an 2845 02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:56,719 ordinance in place prohibiting any above 2846 02:01:56,719 --> 02:01:58,960 ground pool construction in order that 2847 02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:00,719 it was passed for a very good reason. 2848 02:02:00,719 --> 02:02:02,480 Two, currently there are critical draw 2849 02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:04,159 restriction signs from the eastern 2850 02:02:04,159 --> 02:02:06,480 groundwater conservation district around 2851 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,880 Wood Creek requesting 30% less water 2852 02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,360 use. Three, Jacobsville aquaer is so 2853 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:12,960 depleted that the pool can't be used by 2854 02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:17,760 the public anymore and our aquifer already stressed out as well. 2855 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:19,520 Lastly, above ground pools are 2856 02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:21,280 unattractive and adversely affect 2857 02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:23,599 property values. We also ask the city 2858 02:02:23,599 --> 02:02:25,040 secretary to read this objection into 2859 02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:26,480 the record of any city meeting 2860 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:27,920 concerning any above ground pool 2861 02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,000 ordinance as well as reading it to any 2862 02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:31,840 assembled audience there if possible. 2863 02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:32,800 Thank you for your time and 2864 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,040 consideration this matter. Our aquafer 2865 02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:36,960 property values and the preservation of 2866 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,360 them are very important to us. Very 2867 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,040 truly 2868 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:43,760 Joseph. 2869 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:46,000 Okay. And dear city secretary, please 2870 02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:47,599 read our belove unconditional opposition 2871 02:02:47,599 --> 02:02:49,280 to the assembled public and into the 2872 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,440 record of any proceeding involving any 2873 02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:52,960 proposed above ground pool ordinance 2874 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:54,639 seeking to authorize the construction of 2875 02:02:54,639 --> 02:02:56,000 above ground pools in the city of Wood 2876 02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,000 Creek. Please read this objection into 2877 02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,520 public comment section to any city 2878 02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:00,880 council meeting including but not 2879 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,320 limited to city council meeting 2880 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:06,639 scheduled for 892023 and 823 2023. if 2881 02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:08,000 there are in any way connected with 2882 02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,440 construction and or installation of 2883 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,360 above ground pools or on the agenda of 2884 02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,119 any other proceeding involing such above 2885 02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:15,119 ground pools. One, our city has already 2886 02:03:15,119 --> 02:03:16,639 have in place an ordinance prohibiting 2887 02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:18,400 any above ground pool construction and 2888 02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:19,679 we're certain that it was passed for 2889 02:03:19,679 --> 02:03:21,520 reasons that were good then as well as 2890 02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,199 still doing good now. If it ain't broke, 2891 02:03:23,199 --> 02:03:25,440 don't fix it. Two, climate change and 2892 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,040 oils dry out. We're currently in drought 2893 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,040 restriction emergency with signs all 2894 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,639 over Wood Creek asking us to lower our 2895 02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:33,199 water usage by 40%. Jacob's well is 2896 02:03:33,199 --> 02:03:35,280 close and our own training aquifer is 2897 02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,119 already stressed out as it is. We don't 2898 02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:38,960 want these pools even if that's 40% 2899 02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,360 figured lower. We know the people near 2900 02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,599 Wood Creek who are now having to water 2901 02:03:43,599 --> 02:03:45,119 having to have water trucked in because 2902 02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:46,880 their walls have already jumped. Three 2903 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,040 above ground pools are Pandora's box, a 2904 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:50,639 can of worms that should never be opened 2905 02:03:50,639 --> 02:03:51,360 for any reason. 2906 02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,119 >> That's it. 2907 02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:55,280 >> Question. Weren't these three different 2908 02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:55,760 people? 2909 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:57,520 >> He 2910 02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:57,920 Okay. 2911 02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,880 >> Yeah. in the thing it says, "Please read 2912 02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:04,480 any future past 2913 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:05,599 they've ever submitted." So, 2914 02:04:05,599 --> 02:04:08,000 >> yeah. And then when I So, statement of 2915 02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:11,119 fact, um, swim spas are not above ground 2916 02:04:11,119 --> 02:04:16,080 pools per our code. Um, so when I did 2917 02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:19,119 inform him of that, he did not retract 2918 02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:21,440 his comment. So, we proceeded with 2919 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,080 reading it as it was submitted in 2920 02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,000 addition to his other comments for his 2921 02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,000 request. 2922 02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:29,840 All right, we're going to move into item 2923 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:32,960 number seven regarding the request for 2924 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,480 the installation of a swim school and 2925 02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:36,239 allowing the permit process to commence 2926 02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:39,360 for 74 Champion Circle. 2927 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:44,149 Do I have a motion? 2928 02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:46,000 to approve a request for the 2929 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:47,840 installation of the slope spa and allow 2930 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,679 the permitting process to commence for 2931 02:04:49,679 --> 02:04:59,109 74 champions. 2932 02:04:59,119 --> 02:05:03,199 Motion fails for lack of second 2933 02:05:03,199 --> 02:05:05,360 a different motion or 2934 02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:08,159 >> Well, I wanted to hear from the 2935 02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:08,960 resident. 2936 02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,440 >> I I apologize. 2937 02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:12,960 No, I'm sorry. Yeah, I 2938 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,480 >> I know you were doing a motion and then 2939 02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:16,639 she talks and then 2940 02:05:16,639 --> 02:05:18,480 >> I I just tell her she could speak before 2941 02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:20,159 we typically with the items going to 2942 02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:21,679 have a motion to open it up and I 2943 02:05:21,679 --> 02:05:23,360 apologize. Please, if you would like to 2944 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:24,800 issue a comment now, that would be 2945 02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:27,199 appropriate. Well, I'm just grateful to 2946 02:05:27,199 --> 02:05:28,960 be here and it's been an honor to sit 2947 02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,840 and watch y'all do your job and I'm 2948 02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:34,880 thankful to be in the city with such 2949 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:37,840 great leaders and so thank you for 2950 02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:40,719 having me and hearing me and I am here 2951 02:05:40,719 --> 02:05:44,639 to request a variance to the moratorum 2952 02:05:44,639 --> 02:05:47,679 that I wasn't aware of. I just wasn't 2953 02:05:47,679 --> 02:05:50,159 aware of it. I would have bought the 2954 02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:52,480 swim spa if I was aware of it. I mean, I 2955 02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:55,599 wouldn't have done that. Um, but uh I 2956 02:05:55,599 --> 02:05:59,199 did for my healing and I've been 2957 02:05:59,199 --> 02:06:01,679 watching it sit there for 6 weeks when I 2958 02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:04,639 should have been in it healing and I 2959 02:06:04,639 --> 02:06:06,719 look forward to healing with it. I hope 2960 02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:08,400 and pray that you will grant the 2961 02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:11,920 variance. Uh I do uh have several 2962 02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:15,520 medical conditions that I believe this 2963 02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:19,119 will cure. So 2964 02:06:19,119 --> 02:06:21,360 I'm not going to use your water or our 2965 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,760 water. I'm having the water uh hauled in 2966 02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,800 and uh I don't do any topping off of the 2967 02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,360 uh feeding of the swim spa with rain 2968 02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:34,480 water collection or have it trucked in 2969 02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:36,880 as well. I don't want to be this this 2970 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,639 stuff the spot and it's going on granite 2971 02:06:40,639 --> 02:06:42,672 so it's not going on concrete 2972 02:06:42,672 --> 02:06:43,679 [clears throat] 2973 02:06:43,679 --> 02:06:46,480 and um 2974 02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,840 and I just believe that that I've healed 2975 02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,320 with this swim spot and I have a 2976 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,320 doctor's prescription. 2977 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,800 >> That's a good question that I haven't 2978 02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:00,960 actually found out about yet. Is this 2979 02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:02,239 any ground? 2980 02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:05,840 >> It It's And I have a deck around it and 2981 02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:09,199 it's lovely. I think 2982 02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:10,800 >> it's 2983 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,760 a five ground spa. Swimming spa. 2984 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,599 >> It's not a pool. 2985 02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:18,159 >> But you're digging a big hole. 2986 02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:20,079 >> No, no, not digging a hole. It's going 2987 02:07:20,079 --> 02:07:22,239 to have a granite slab to be placed on 2988 02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:26,870 and then a decking around it. 2989 02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:29,199 Okay, we do need a motion before we get 2990 02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:32,400 into Q&A, please. Um, so if we could 2991 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,400 have a motion on the table. 2992 02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:38,239 >> Thank you for hearing me. 2993 02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:40,320 And my name is Laura. I didn't introduce 2994 02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,159 myself. 2995 02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:44,880 Thank you. 2996 02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,040 And this is my first home, so I'm I'm 2997 02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,599 learning all kinds of things about home 2998 02:07:49,599 --> 02:07:53,679 ownership and and this city. So, and 2999 02:07:53,679 --> 02:07:55,520 your rules. 3000 02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:57,360 specified. 3001 02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:59,440 >> Thank you. So, um, council, we do need a 3002 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,440 motion to either approve or deny the 3003 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,880 variance. Um, we I don't know what the 3004 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:06,880 proper rules on not taking it up at all, 3005 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,560 but I would request that we either 3006 02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,920 approve or deny the variance. 3007 02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:16,480 I move that we take action to approve 3008 02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:20,719 request for installation of a swim spa 3009 02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:24,159 and allow the the permitting process to 3010 02:08:24,159 --> 02:08:29,280 commence for 74 champions. 3011 02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:30,719 >> We have a second. 3012 02:08:30,719 --> 02:08:31,520 >> I'll second. 3013 02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:32,960 >> So we have a second for discussion 3014 02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:34,880 purposes. Council member Bailey made the 3015 02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:36,960 motion as stated in the packet. Council 3016 02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:40,320 member Richardson is a second. Um so 3017 02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:43,280 clarifying details uh swim spas or at 3018 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:45,040 least this one in particular and 3019 02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:46,719 typically it's all above ground. They're 3020 02:08:46,719 --> 02:08:49,599 basically really really large hot tubs. 3021 02:08:49,599 --> 02:08:53,840 Um and I will caution you though that 3022 02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:58,400 your um your impervious coverage you 3023 02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:02,239 barely got the swim spa under it. I do 3024 02:09:02,239 --> 02:09:04,239 not believe additional debt being would 3025 02:09:04,239 --> 02:09:06,480 be covered. And so if they choose to 3026 02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:08,320 approve your variance tonight, you would 3027 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:09,679 need to work with city administrator 3028 02:09:09,679 --> 02:09:12,000 Burton on that concept because you might 3029 02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:13,679 not be able to install the decking you 3030 02:09:13,679 --> 02:09:16,400 wish. And if they do choose to approve 3031 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,320 your variance tonight, you would still 3032 02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:20,000 have to go through the permit 3033 02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,920 application process where you would need 3034 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,719 to approve the rainwater collection and 3035 02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:29,280 that is a large enough um system to 3036 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:31,920 support filling something like this. Um, 3037 02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:34,800 so all of that documentation would need 3038 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:37,920 to be as as part of the permit process 3039 02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,320 should they approve the variance. The 3040 02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,800 first step tonight is just the variance 3041 02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,360 and we would need a direct statement on 3042 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,320 that. This is not necessarily 3043 02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:51,679 sufficient enough in my opinion, but um 3044 02:09:51,679 --> 02:09:53,920 so I would request that it be amended to 3045 02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:58,079 reference the variance in Virginia 3046 02:09:58,079 --> 02:10:02,480 if you choose to pass. to amend her 3047 02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:03,119 motion. 3048 02:10:03,119 --> 02:10:04,000 >> Okay. 3049 02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:07,840 >> Yes. Because the the packet 3050 02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,239 um doesn't necessarily directly 3051 02:10:10,239 --> 02:10:12,400 reference the variance and I'm I'm just 3052 02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:15,119 concerned about 3053 02:10:15,119 --> 02:10:19,040 um about that. 3054 02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:19,760 >> Sorry. 3055 02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,000 >> I move to amend to specifically 3056 02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,440 reference a variance. 3057 02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:30,629 Second. 3058 02:10:30,639 --> 02:10:32,880 in the it would be to approve or deny 3059 02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:36,320 the hearings would be the amendment. 3060 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:37,679 >> Do y'all have any discussion or 3061 02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:39,040 questions? 3062 02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:41,280 >> I'd like to say that if you if you don't 3063 02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:46,239 mind, may I say something? Uh the guy 3064 02:10:46,239 --> 02:10:48,719 who's going to come and fill it up says 3065 02:10:48,719 --> 02:10:52,079 that he can write a letter that shows 3066 02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:55,040 that he will be in charge of keeping it 3067 02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:58,400 filled. you would have to provide um the 3068 02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:00,880 initial purchase of the water. That's 3069 02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,040 what we've required in the past. So, 3070 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:04,800 that we understand they might not fill 3071 02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:06,880 at that exact time, but you would have 3072 02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,520 to essentially have that in place. 3073 02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,639 >> Um a maintenance contract 3074 02:11:12,639 --> 02:11:14,719 >> or the refill would definitely benefit 3075 02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:17,280 you in regards to the city administrator 3076 02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:18,639 approving the application. 3077 02:11:18,639 --> 02:11:19,440 >> Yes. 3078 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,840 >> Um none of that was provided tonight 3079 02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:24,560 though for the record. 3080 02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:26,000 Yeah, that's excuse [clears throat] me. 3081 02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:28,880 I'm sorry. That that's really my issue 3082 02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:31,520 is that um 3083 02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:35,520 you know the spa was purchased and 3084 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,079 delivered and 3085 02:11:38,079 --> 02:11:40,560 um and you come to us with you know 3086 02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:44,960 legitimate issues. Um but you know our 3087 02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,719 the the reason that you have to follow 3088 02:11:46,719 --> 02:11:50,239 varants is because our job is to enforce 3089 02:11:50,239 --> 02:11:52,800 the policies of the city. um we haven't 3090 02:11:52,800 --> 02:12:00,719 approved um even a hot tub you know in a few years we did one one cool um 3091 02:12:00,719 --> 02:12:03,040 and the the medical documentation on 3092 02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:08,960 that one one person was um was extensive 3093 02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:11,840 >> well I've had the MRIs and the CAT scans 3094 02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,760 and all of that that I can provide I 3095 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:15,040 just didn't think that that should be 3096 02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:18,480 necessary I mean I really didn't but I'd 3097 02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:19,920 be happy to provide it 3098 02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:22,560 >> all I'm saying is that you for us to 3099 02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:26,079 approve the variance. Um, we had to say 3100 02:12:26,079 --> 02:12:28,719 it's it's so compelling that we're 3101 02:12:28,719 --> 02:12:30,400 willing to break the rules that we have 3102 02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,199 set for ourselves. Um, and your 3103 02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:36,000 application to me, I mean, it's just in 3104 02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:38,079 my opinion, the application, you know, 3105 02:12:38,079 --> 02:12:41,280 isn't strong enough for for me to to 3106 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:42,639 feel like it's there. I mean, it's not 3107 02:12:42,639 --> 02:12:45,040 that you can't go back and come back 3108 02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:47,679 with with strong. I mean, just like like 3109 02:12:47,679 --> 02:12:50,159 the the contract for the water being 3110 02:12:50,159 --> 02:12:54,239 trucked in, the design of the rainwater 3111 02:12:54,239 --> 02:12:56,960 system that's going to to top it off. 3112 02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:00,079 >> Um, you know, I I don't know about them. 3113 02:13:00,079 --> 02:13:01,440 Well, I don't know, you know, physical 3114 02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,079 therapist or, you know, orthopedic 3115 02:13:04,079 --> 02:13:06,639 surgeons or or whatever. you know that 3116 02:13:06,639 --> 02:13:09,040 you know if you if if I had better 3117 02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:11,760 documentation that yeah this is really 3118 02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:13,599 important and there's no other way you 3119 02:13:13,599 --> 02:13:16,800 can do it like going to the YDA or or a 3120 02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,719 physical therapist that you know might 3121 02:13:18,719 --> 02:13:23,440 provide um you know that service um then 3122 02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:25,679 I mean it'd be easier for me to to say 3123 02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:27,040 okay let's go ahead and break the rule 3124 02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:30,400 that that's my opinion on my one vote 3125 02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:35,327 and I'm sorry I feel that way but that is 3126 02:13:35,327 --> 02:13:35,840 >> [clears throat] 3127 02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:37,440 >> Council, if I may, you do have the 3128 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:39,280 option if you'd like to postpone us for 3129 02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:41,440 further documentation as well. Just in 3130 02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:42,880 hearing that comment, that is a 3131 02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:45,119 possibility. 3132 02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:47,199 There's nothing wrong with that. Does 3133 02:13:47,199 --> 02:13:48,639 anyone else have any additional 3134 02:13:48,639 --> 02:13:50,800 questions for the applicant or 3135 02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:52,960 additional comments or concerns? 3136 02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:55,119 >> Do you know offand how many gallons it 3137 02:13:55,119 --> 02:13:56,800 takes to fill? 3138 02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:02,870 >> About 2,000. 3139 02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:03,280 and 3140 02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:05,920 >> and I have it planned to be delivered as 3141 02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:08,000 soon as it's 3142 02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:11,840 moved and set up on the pad that's being 3143 02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:13,360 built. 3144 02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:15,280 >> I will say typically water truck 3145 02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:17,760 providers don't do less than a,000 uh 3146 02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:19,920 refill. Occasionally they'll come out 3147 02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:23,119 for something like 3 to 600. So again, 3148 02:14:23,119 --> 02:14:25,840 should should you wish should council 3149 02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:27,360 postponed and you wish to provide 3150 02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:29,040 additional documentation or should your 3151 02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:30,560 variance be granted and you move into 3152 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:32,560 the permit process, it would really 3153 02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:35,280 benefit you to have more of that stuff 3154 02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,119 documented, you know, like the size of 3155 02:14:37,119 --> 02:14:38,719 your rainwater collection, your contract 3156 02:14:38,719 --> 02:14:40,159 with your water provider saying they 3157 02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:41,679 would fill lesser amounts than a 3158 02:14:41,679 --> 02:14:44,960 thousand. And so I mean, if I could echo 3159 02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:48,400 what he rascow said is that um in seeing 3160 02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,320 this application 3161 02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:55,440 um there is a burden of the applicant to make a 3162 02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,840 compelling case to grant a variance. 3163 02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,079 That's standard policy that's nothing to 3164 02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:02,960 do with you or this situation if that 3165 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,079 makes sense. And so what I have heard or 3166 02:15:06,079 --> 02:15:08,880 what I am hearing now is that um there 3167 02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:10,639 is not necessarily right now a 3168 02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:15,679 compelling case um meaning um a 3169 02:15:15,679 --> 02:15:18,400 long-term disability that would take a 3170 02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:20,320 permanent installation 3171 02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:24,079 or um you know the the plans for the 3172 02:15:24,079 --> 02:15:25,679 rainwater collection would have been 3173 02:15:25,679 --> 02:15:29,199 very helpful or um the the literal 3174 02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:31,599 contract with your water provider. these 3175 02:15:31,599 --> 02:15:33,599 were things these would be things that 3176 02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:36,400 would make for a more compelling case. 3177 02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,639 Um because the variance is basically we 3178 02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:41,360 have rules and so you're asking us to go 3179 02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:43,840 around these rules and it's sort of like 3180 02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:47,119 a burden of proof on your part if that 3181 02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:47,599 makes sense. 3182 02:15:47,599 --> 02:15:50,800 >> Well, it's all ready to go. It's ready 3183 02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:54,000 to be done. The the the the crew is 3184 02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,320 ready to to build the pad and the 3185 02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,880 rainwater collection and install the the 3186 02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:02,239 jacuzzi. It's all ready to be and I I 3187 02:16:02,239 --> 02:16:04,560 need to be healing in it yesterday. 3188 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,679 >> Do the plans that you submitted include 3189 02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:08,480 >> those? 3190 02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:11,520 >> Well, it could happen it it can happen 3191 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:14,480 as soon as y'all give me the okay to 3192 02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:16,480 >> doesn't work. No, you have to come first 3193 02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:19,440 and then and then we say, "Okay, that's good." 3194 02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:21,119 >> I mean, we can't we can't I mean, I 3195 02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:25,360 can't I can't I can't do for you what we 3196 02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:27,679 haven't done for a lot of other people 3197 02:16:27,679 --> 02:16:29,920 in this drive. 3198 02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:33,200 um with just on the on the promise that 3199 02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:36,080 yeah, I'll bring something back to you, know, after I get it done, after I 3200 02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,160 get it everything set, I I mean, it's 3201 02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:40,960 like if if if we had it now and had more 3202 02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:42,479 to to work with, 3203 02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:44,399 >> you know, you and this is this doesn't 3204 02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:47,760 say that it will never come back before 3205 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:49,120 the council. You never have another 3206 02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:51,200 chance. It's just that we in my opinion 3207 02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:56,960 the application is just incomplete and it's like like it would be it would 3208 02:16:56,960 --> 02:16:58,559 be 3209 02:16:58,559 --> 02:17:00,080 it would just be tough for me to say 3210 02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:02,479 okay I'll take your word for it. Right. 3211 02:17:02,479 --> 02:17:05,439 So um 3212 02:17:05,439 --> 02:17:08,000 sorry but 3213 02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,080 >> does anyone else on council have 3214 02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:12,960 anything they'd like to share or say? 3215 02:17:12,960 --> 02:17:16,080 Just I if anything I'd like to see 3216 02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:18,080 further documentation 3217 02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:20,800 of medical. 3218 02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:25,589 You got it. I'll get it. 3219 02:17:25,599 --> 02:17:28,639 So right now we have an amendment to 3220 02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:31,120 address variance specifically. That's 3221 02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:32,960 what it said. Does specifically 3222 02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:34,639 reference gay varian? 3223 02:17:34,639 --> 02:17:37,359 >> If we could vote on that amendment. Now, 3224 02:17:37,359 --> 02:17:40,160 I would request we vote that down if you 3225 02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:42,399 don't mind and that we either approve or 3226 02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:44,000 deny the variance and issue that 3227 02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:47,200 amendment or postpone for further 3228 02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:48,639 documentation. One of those three 3229 02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:51,920 options I think would be more clear for 3230 02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:56,309 staff and for the applicant. 3231 02:17:56,319 --> 02:17:57,920 So 3232 02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:01,599 you want an amendment to deny the 3233 02:18:01,599 --> 02:18:03,920 dariance or approve the variance 3234 02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:07,599 >> or a secondary like a new motion where 3235 02:18:07,599 --> 02:18:10,080 we a postpone is a standalone motion. It 3236 02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,080 would intercept the conversation and 3237 02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,519 stop it. All of it would end. Postponing 3238 02:18:15,519 --> 02:18:17,920 means done tonight. Come back at the 3239 02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:21,359 next meeting with XYZ. So we have to 3240 02:18:21,359 --> 02:18:23,439 take up this amendment that says 3241 02:18:23,439 --> 02:18:25,760 paraphrasing addressing a variance. I 3242 02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:27,599 would ask that y'all vote that down and 3243 02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:29,519 if you intend to approve or deny you 3244 02:18:29,519 --> 02:18:31,679 make that amendment 3245 02:18:31,679 --> 02:18:34,319 >> or someone issued a motion in postponing 3246 02:18:34,319 --> 02:18:40,230 for further documentation. 3247 02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:41,920 » Sir council member Ger 3248 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:42,960 >> I just want to make sure I'm 3249 02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:44,319 understanding the process. We have an 3250 02:18:44,319 --> 02:18:46,960 amendment to add the variance words. 3251 02:18:46,960 --> 02:18:49,599 Then we have the main motion as stated 3252 02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:53,359 on the agenda. You're asking for all of 3253 02:18:53,359 --> 02:18:55,280 that to make. 3254 02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:59,040 >> No. No. Vote vote on the amendment 3255 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:00,319 up or down. 3256 02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:03,359 >> Um and then offer 3257 02:19:03,359 --> 02:19:03,920 >> possibly 3258 02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:06,559 >> a different amendment maybe or 3259 02:19:06,559 --> 02:19:07,840 >> Okay. The reason why 3260 02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:09,280 >> I could just make it clear 3261 02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:10,800 >> I would suggest to vote this amendment 3262 02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:14,000 down was because it it's added wordage 3263 02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:15,920 that's not necessary if that makes 3264 02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,200 sense. It's just all you all we really 3265 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:22,960 need is vote to approve the request for 3266 02:19:22,960 --> 02:19:25,840 variance or vote to deny the request for 3267 02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:28,719 variance or motion to postpone until 3268 02:19:28,719 --> 02:19:30,479 further documentation. 3269 02:19:30,479 --> 02:19:32,000 >> So we'll go ahead and take up the 3270 02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:34,240 amendment to add variance verbage. All 3271 02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:35,840 in favor, please raise your hand and say 3272 02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:37,920 I. 3273 02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:40,559 No eyes. Motion fails. Please raise your 3274 02:19:40,559 --> 02:19:43,599 hand and say nay. If we do not support 3275 02:19:43,599 --> 02:19:45,920 >> nay. 3276 02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:48,720 >> Two nays. Do we have an abstent? Anyone 3277 02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:49,760 abstaining? 3278 02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:51,280 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 3279 02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:52,080 >> I'm not sure. 3280 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:53,520 >> Are you on the motion? 3281 02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:57,040 >> No, this variance would be 3282 02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:59,040 >> So there were no eyes. I'm just assuming 3283 02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:02,080 everybody else would be mad. So we yeah 3284 02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:04,960 you either have to I n they or fain and 3285 02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:07,840 an F saying is a yes unless you have a 3286 02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:10,800 real reason not to be offending meaning 3287 02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:12,880 you it's money going to you or something 3288 02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:16,080 >> I vote against 3289 02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:23,359 >> let's take a roll call you're against abstain so that becomes a yes 3290 02:20:23,359 --> 02:20:25,120 >> I'm in 3291 02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:26,960 clarification previous city attorney 3292 02:20:26,960 --> 02:20:29,840 said we cannot abstain unless we have a 3293 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:31,439 legal reason to do. So 3294 02:20:31,439 --> 02:20:35,280 >> there is an argument for that. 3295 02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:38,000 >> Is that true? 3296 02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:39,200 >> Your understanding? 3297 02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:41,200 >> Yes, I I agree with that. 3298 02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:41,920 >> Okay. 3299 02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,479 >> So unless you have a legal reason, we're 3300 02:20:44,479 --> 02:20:46,240 going to go with Stan's agreement here 3301 02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,479 on that. 3302 02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:49,680 >> Okay. So 3303 02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:51,439 >> a legal reason would be that you're 3304 02:20:51,439 --> 02:20:53,280 going to use her swim or this is going 3305 02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:57,040 on your property or she paid you money. 3306 02:20:57,040 --> 02:21:00,640 >> A real conflict of interest. 3307 02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:04,560 So, I missed the opportunity to move. 3308 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:09,670 >> No, no, all we're voting on. 3309 02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:11,680 All the amendments said was add variance 3310 02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:12,560 words. 3311 02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:13,040 >> Okay. 3312 02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:14,800 >> Paraphrase. So, I'm asking you all to 3313 02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:16,399 vote that down because that is not a 3314 02:21:16,399 --> 02:21:17,920 helpful amendment right now to the 3315 02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:21,520 motion. We and we would make a new one 3316 02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:24,960 of some version, please. So, we will 3317 02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:26,880 start over with a roll call just to make 3318 02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:29,439 this clear so everyone knows. Council 3319 02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:31,600 member Richardson. 3320 02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:33,680 >> Council member Gmer. 3321 02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:34,800 >> Council member Bailey. 3322 02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:35,280 >> Nay. 3323 02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:37,439 >> Council member Slicker. 3324 02:21:37,439 --> 02:21:39,280 >> Mayor. 3325 02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:41,840 >> Okay. That amendment says that's what I 3326 02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:45,280 got. Okay. First, 3327 02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:47,840 >> um, 3328 02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:50,640 so the motion on the table right now is 3329 02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:52,800 to approve a request for installation of 3330 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:55,520 the swim and allow permitting process to 3331 02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:58,790 commence. 3332 02:21:58,800 --> 02:22:02,160 We can vote on that or you can add the 3333 02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:04,399 words about the variance in particular. 3334 02:22:04,399 --> 02:22:07,359 That was just a request for me. Or a new 3335 02:22:07,359 --> 02:22:13,590 motion can be made to postpone. 3336 02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:15,040 » Okay. 3337 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:19,040 I move that we postpone this decision 3338 02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:23,040 allowing the applicant time to provide 3339 02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:28,399 more detail on the physical preparation 3340 02:22:28,399 --> 02:22:37,830 of the spa and medical need 3341 02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:40,080 administrative question 3342 02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:43,120 that doesn't require any varian 3343 02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:47,200 >> we will wait in this case. 3344 02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:48,960 >> Um, so council member Bailey's motion 3345 02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:50,960 was to postpone his decision to allow 3346 02:22:50,960 --> 02:22:53,359 applicant more time to provide 3347 02:22:53,359 --> 02:22:55,760 documentation 3348 02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:58,399 on the installation 3349 02:22:58,399 --> 02:23:00,319 and medical meeting. Yes. 3350 02:23:00,319 --> 02:23:04,160 >> Okay. Seconded by Mayor Pton Rasone. 3351 02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:08,319 Um, do we have any further discussion? 3352 02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:09,920 Um, 3353 02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:12,880 I would be happy to work with you via 3354 02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:16,000 email, help you understand what that 3355 02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:18,399 looks like and city administrator Burton 3356 02:23:18,399 --> 02:23:20,880 can also help on that front. Um, we did 3357 02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:23,120 not establish a timeline on this and as 3358 02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:26,080 it's stated now, it's just when she 3359 02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:30,000 feels her materials have been submitted. 3360 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:32,240 So, if that's okay with council, we'll 3361 02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:36,469 move forward with that understanding. 3362 02:23:36,479 --> 02:23:39,040 So, you don't have a deadline right now 3363 02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:41,200 and your variance will still be honored. 3364 02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:42,800 You don't have to resubmit and pay 3365 02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:46,080 again. Um, but the council is requesting 3366 02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:48,080 additional information from you 3367 02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:50,800 concerning the medical need. So, the 3368 02:23:50,800 --> 02:23:54,560 doctor's prescription wasn't enough. 3369 02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,439 It's not that it's not you want to see 3370 02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:00,000 the X-rays and the results from the 3371 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:04,479 different MRIs and things like what 3372 02:24:04,479 --> 02:24:07,520 we're I would love to talk to you about 3373 02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,200 this outside of a public meeting where 3374 02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,120 we're not discussing your health in a 3375 02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:13,680 recorded meeting if you don't mind. 3376 02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:16,399 >> But if you are open to that discussion, 3377 02:24:16,399 --> 02:24:19,359 I won't deny you it here. It just I out 3378 02:24:19,359 --> 02:24:21,439 of your privacy and respect for you, I 3379 02:24:21,439 --> 02:24:22,399 don't think that that would be 3380 02:24:22,399 --> 02:24:25,359 appropriate. That's fine. I'm willing to 3381 02:24:25,359 --> 02:24:27,120 do whatever you need me to do. 3382 02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:29,920 >> Okay. Um I would I would like to discuss 3383 02:24:29,920 --> 02:24:31,439 this with you at a meeting outside of a 3384 02:24:31,439 --> 02:24:32,479 public hearing. 3385 02:24:32,479 --> 02:24:34,720 >> So was it denied or did 3386 02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:37,040 >> it's been postponed until you provide 3387 02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:39,280 additional applicant information 3388 02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:41,680 regarding the installation. 3389 02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:43,120 Specifically, what I'm hearing is 3390 02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:46,720 related to the water concerns and 3391 02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:49,280 further medical documentation justify 3392 02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:53,520 any long-term disability or need. 3393 02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:56,640 >> So, the long-term uh health conditions 3394 02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:58,399 that I have, you need more information 3395 02:24:58,399 --> 02:25:00,640 on that because I have short-term and 3396 02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:01,439 long-term. 3397 02:25:01,439 --> 02:25:03,520 >> Yes, ma'am. What we have here today 3398 02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:06,800 appears to be kind of a shortterm 3399 02:25:06,800 --> 02:25:10,479 >> incident, right? Uh, so that was what I 3400 02:25:10,479 --> 02:25:13,200 heard expressed was the concern that 3401 02:25:13,200 --> 02:25:15,359 this is a short-term need that perhaps 3402 02:25:15,359 --> 02:25:17,280 could be satisfied without the permanent 3403 02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:19,520 installation of a water using device. 3404 02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:20,479 >> Right? 3405 02:25:20,479 --> 02:25:23,040 >> If you have a long-term disability that 3406 02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:24,640 would 3407 02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:27,280 give a more compelling argument for a 3408 02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:28,880 water installation device, it's 3409 02:25:28,880 --> 02:25:31,120 permanent or semi-permanent being 3410 02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:33,760 installed at your home, then that would 3411 02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:36,479 help your case. 3412 02:25:36,479 --> 02:25:41,510 >> I'll get that to you. Okay. 3413 02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:43,040 » Yes. Yes. 3414 02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:44,319 >> I just 3415 02:25:44,319 --> 02:25:46,000 >> Okay. 3416 02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:47,920 >> All right. The motion on the table is to 3417 02:25:47,920 --> 02:25:49,520 postpone this decision to allow the 3418 02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,399 applicant more time to provide the 3419 02:25:52,399 --> 02:25:55,120 documentation on the installation and 3420 02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:57,359 medical need. Do we have any further 3421 02:25:57,359 --> 02:26:00,880 discussion tonight in council? 3422 02:26:00,880 --> 02:26:02,080 All right. Hearing none, we'll go ahead 3423 02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:03,840 and hold a vote on that motion to 3424 02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:05,520 postpone. All in favor, please raise 3425 02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:08,000 your hand and say I. 3426 02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:11,680 Four I one n a motion passes to 3427 02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:15,126 postpone. 3428 02:26:15,136 --> 02:26:16,880 [clears throat] 3429 02:26:16,880 --> 02:26:18,560 All right. Thank you. Thank you so much. 3430 02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:22,880 As you heard a long way. 3431 02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:26,479 >> Let's uh put together at a later time to 3432 02:26:26,479 --> 02:26:28,640 work on your additional application 3433 02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:30,560 materials and Mr. Burton can also help 3434 02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:32,399 you if I'm not available. 3435 02:26:32,399 --> 02:26:34,000 >> Thank you very much. Good morning. Thank 3436 02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:37,510 you. 3437 02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:38,880 All right, guys. We're going to move 3438 02:26:38,880 --> 02:26:40,800 into council considerations for future 3439 02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:43,439 business. And I' I've mentioned this 3440 02:26:43,439 --> 02:26:44,960 before, but if you guys would like your 3441 02:26:44,960 --> 02:26:46,560 stuff included in the slides, you can 3442 02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:49,120 always email me beforehand. Um, all I 3443 02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:50,800 have right now are I would like to 3444 02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:52,479 propose a rainwater collection incentive 3445 02:26:52,479 --> 02:26:56,080 for smallcale and landscape watering. 3446 02:26:56,080 --> 02:26:58,800 Seconded by council member Richardson. 3447 02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:01,120 Um, tonight I heard a reconsider for 3448 02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:04,319 speed cushions in the budget from the 3449 02:27:04,319 --> 02:27:05,200 public. 3450 02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:06,640 that one. I second. 3451 02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:09,760 >> Uh okay. So, Mayor Pton Rasa will be 3452 02:27:09,760 --> 02:27:12,240 sponsoring that item and uh council 3453 02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:14,080 member Gerard has seconded that 3454 02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:15,840 consideration. 3455 02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,160 >> Um when I say speaker, should I like 3456 02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:19,760 safety enhancement phase three? 3457 02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:22,399 >> Uh I would say safety enhancement phase 3458 02:27:22,399 --> 02:27:24,240 three. 3459 02:27:24,240 --> 02:27:27,040 um what was in the budget 3460 02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:29,280 >> and that's what they were requesting 3461 02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:31,120 come up and we'll have a separate item 3462 02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:34,399 for it this time instead of it being 3463 02:27:34,399 --> 02:27:36,319 um part of a larger item 3464 02:27:36,319 --> 02:27:40,399 >> and uh I will honor the modifications if 3465 02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:42,479 it's okay in working with Mayor Proasco 3466 02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:44,560 the modifications that council members 3467 02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:47,040 expressed uh wanting in that plan the 3468 02:27:47,040 --> 02:27:50,560 last time but we'll bring back in 3469 02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:53,359 >> question well we're not be talking about 3470 02:27:53,359 --> 02:27:56,319 details. I just can the details of it be 3471 02:27:56,319 --> 02:27:59,040 broken up so obviously could maybe it 3472 02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:03,760 can change into this but that later 3473 02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:07,200 it's in that safety enhancement. 3474 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:11,990 >> It is kind of remember 3475 02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:15,040 actually nothing was specified. It was 3476 02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:16,640 just safety enhancement phase three and 3477 02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,800 then what was proposed was what citizens 3478 02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:20,880 had brought to us because the whole 3479 02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:23,120 point was we were just approving to add 3480 02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:25,200 it to the budget and approving staff to 3481 02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:26,640 be able to work on the plan and consult 3482 02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:28,880 with engineers to bring forth a plan for 3483 02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:30,800 council consideration. 3484 02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:33,359 >> But council did make modifications 3485 02:28:33,359 --> 02:28:36,240 during the meeting and I will honor 3486 02:28:36,240 --> 02:28:37,920 those if you don't mind. We'll adjust 3487 02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:42,950 what was presented. 3488 02:28:42,960 --> 02:28:44,960 No additional considerations for future 3489 02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:46,880 business. I remember Council Member 3490 02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:50,160 Gmer, you um made an announcement on a 3491 02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:51,600 previous meeting about something related 3492 02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:53,920 to taxes. Were you still interested in 3493 02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:55,680 uh getting your second on that during 3494 02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:57,840 the appropriate allocated time for 3495 02:28:57,840 --> 02:29:00,640 policy? 3496 02:29:00,640 --> 02:29:02,240 >> Seems I don't remember at the moment. 3497 02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:03,520 No. 3498 02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:08,240 >> Was it um like a further income? 3499 02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:09,520 >> Oh, it was. 3500 02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:11,840 >> Yes. the possibility. 3501 02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:16,399 >> Okay. Um I plan on our possibility of 3502 02:29:16,399 --> 02:29:20,160 a general homestead exemption 3503 02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:23,439 tax exemption. 3504 02:29:23,439 --> 02:29:26,000 >> Yeah. 3505 02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:27,439 >> That was on the last. 3506 02:29:27,439 --> 02:29:28,160 >> Thank you. 3507 02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,080 >> Yeah. It was made as an announcement. 3508 02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:33,280 >> Oh yeah. The announcements weren't on my 3509 02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:38,790 class. So, I was just trying to 3510 02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:40,640 » do a second. 3511 02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:42,560 >> I don't know. 3512 02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:45,830 >> Um, 3513 02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:50,389 okay. 3514 02:29:50,399 --> 02:29:54,399 » And then the the item that um custom 3515 02:29:54,399 --> 02:29:58,240 permer was speaking about that was that 3516 02:29:58,240 --> 02:30:00,399 may have been on this agenda. 3517 02:30:00,399 --> 02:30:01,840 >> It's already submitted. 3518 02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:03,040 >> Okay. 3519 02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:04,160 That doesn't have to be resub. 3520 02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:06,399 >> It doesn't. It was submitted in May on 3521 02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:09,520 the 17th. Uh the agenda was posted on 3522 02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:12,240 the 27th for June. So, and it was 3523 02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:14,640 already in process at that time in full. 3524 02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:18,479 He was um asked if it could go on July. 3525 02:30:18,479 --> 02:30:20,479 He said he'd be out of town. So, it 3526 02:30:20,479 --> 02:30:21,600 could come in August. 3527 02:30:21,600 --> 02:30:22,240 >> Okay. 3528 02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:28,389 >> It's already 3529 02:30:28,399 --> 02:30:29,120 » Sorry, [clears throat] that wasn't 3530 02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:32,160 directed to you. No, it's not. It is 3531 02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:32,880 7:00. 3532 02:30:32,880 --> 02:30:34,960 >> Yeah. Uh, all right. Now, we're going to 3533 02:30:34,960 --> 02:30:36,640 move into announcements hearing. No 3534 02:30:36,640 --> 02:30:38,640 future business. Uh, one announcement. 3535 02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:41,359 We have a repotting lot 144 and lot 146 3536 02:30:41,359 --> 02:30:43,520 of the re 3537 02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:45,280 of the repot and extension of Wood Creek 3538 02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:48,160 section 2 establishing lot 144A county 3539 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:50,000 Texas notice of a public hearing set for 3540 02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,640 July 15, 2026 at 5:00 p.m. During the 3541 02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:54,160 regular planning and zoning commission 3542 02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:56,000 meeting, they will need to issue a 3543 02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:58,319 report that would then come to us. So 3544 02:30:58,319 --> 02:31:00,720 this is your notice. You could tune into 3545 02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:03,280 that meeting to be informed by them 3546 02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:04,880 directly. And then planning and zoning 3547 02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:06,560 is also planning a public hearing for 3548 02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:10,319 MH1 noting expected August 19th, 2026. 3549 02:31:10,319 --> 02:31:12,560 That's related to the manufacturer 3550 02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:14,319 manufactured housing code. The state is 3551 02:31:14,319 --> 02:31:16,880 requiring from us. Our next council 3552 02:31:16,880 --> 02:31:18,720 meeting is August 12th with the final 3553 02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:20,560 budget workshop. Please come with all of 3554 02:31:20,560 --> 02:31:23,600 your final budget stuff for that meeting 3555 02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:26,640 because we'll be launching straight into 3556 02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:28,640 Sep, you know, like that's it and then 3557 02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:30,160 September has to be posted. So, 3558 02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:31,920 >> I'm sorry you're saying that the regular 3559 02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:34,640 meeting plus budget work. 3560 02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:37,040 >> Yeah, it will be primarily a budget 3561 02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:38,720 workshop. I 3562 02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:41,680 >> is the goal. That is um in the future 3563 02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:44,319 it's it's very beneficial for all 3564 02:31:44,319 --> 02:31:46,880 council to uh take into consideration 3565 02:31:46,880 --> 02:31:48,960 the budget calendar when submitting 3566 02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:50,880 items and understanding that the months 3567 02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:53,040 of July and August 3568 02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:55,280 10 and June really even tend to be very 3569 02:31:55,280 --> 02:32:00,319 heavy budget stuff. So anyway, all 3570 02:32:00,319 --> 02:32:03,040 right, moving on. Uh that would adjourn 3571 02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:06,240 our meeting. I have a motion to adjurnn. 3572 02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:09,439 >> Uh meeting at 8:56. 3573 02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:12,680 >> Thank you.