1 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:22,960 All right, good evening everyone. It's now 7 o' to our city council meeting for 2 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:28,119 Monday, August 17th, 2026. For all of you that are able to please rise for the 3 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,119 pledge of allegiance 4 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:38,120 to the flag of the United States of America 5 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,120 for it stands nation 6 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:47,520 for all. >> All right, city council members, if 7 00:00:44,239 --> 00:00:53,280 we'll all turn our mics on and up so the audience can hear. Um, Miss Hogan, roll 8 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,120 call, please. >> Council member Dowy 9 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:56,719 » here. >> Council member Houston 10 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,320 » here. >> Council member Friend 11 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 » here. >> Council member Michaelelsson 12 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,440 » here. >> Council member Brown 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,039 » here. >> Council member Ray 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,199 » here. >> Council member Burke has called out this 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,080 evening. >> Motion to excuse. Council member Burke. 16 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:16,320 » I have a first for Miss Dowy and a second for Mr. Brown. Miss Hogan. 17 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:19,360 » Council member Dowy. >> Yes. 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,280 » Council member Houston. Yes. >> Council member friend. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,119 » Hi. >> Council member Michaelelsson. 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,880 » Hi. >> Council member Brown. 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,560 » Hi. >> Council member Ray. 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,159 » Hi. >> All right. JJ is excused tonight. 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,360 » All right. Just a reminder for everyone to please silence their cell phones. And 24 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:49,840 now we'll move into citizen communications for items not on the 25 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,840 agenda. 26 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,799 That's really throwing my game off there. Who's is that? 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:09,039 » It's not. Is it me? All right. Um, hi. My name's Molly Malinowski. I haven't 28 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:13,920 met most of Well, think about half of you. Um, I've lived in Woodland since 29 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:19,440 2014. I am the listing agent for the Donald's 150 acres down there on Wayland 30 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Road. So part of the discussion that you know everybody's having about the 31 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:28,319 development down there. I'm the listing agent for that. Um Donald's are close 32 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:32,800 personal family friends of mine. Um so I make no 33 00:02:30,239 --> 00:02:38,959 um excuses about wanting the best thing for them. Um also as a realtor, like 34 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:43,840 that's part my job. Um I'm not going to sit here and and say otherwise, but I I 35 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:48,000 just wanted to kind of introduce myself to you guys. I was had the opportunity 36 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:51,680 to speak with Melissa, Jason. I was hoping to get you on the phone. I know 37 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Gabe, we've had a couple conversations about this situation and I just wanted 38 00:02:53,519 --> 00:03:01,599 to like show face. This is who I am. I'm happy to have all the conversations 39 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,040 about it. Um, ask all the questions. I've been working on it for over a year 40 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:11,440 and a half. I've learned a lot. I've gained a I feel like a very good 41 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:16,319 education between Kalitz County. Travis has been extremely helpful and 42 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,239 educational. Um, had a few chats with Riley, so 43 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:24,480 um, I don't want to sound arrogant, but I do feel like I've learned a lot, so 44 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,720 I'm happy to answer any questions that I can. Whatever I can answer, I will find 45 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:34,480 out. I wanted to read a little bit from your guys's comprehensive plan update 46 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:39,680 from less than a year ago. You guys wrote in emissions and goals sections 47 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:43,840 that Woodland will experience continued population growth, greater diversity, 48 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:48,959 higher citizen expectations, and increased demand for essential public 49 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:52,480 services. These challenges will be met through the innovative use of 50 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:58,319 technology, internal process improvement, creative programs, and 51 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:03,920 careful planning. So obviously you guys know what your jobs are as as the city 52 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:08,720 council is to plan for growth. Um, and so that's all I think the conversation 53 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:14,879 really needs to be centered around is there's no two ways about the fact that 54 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:20,799 we have a major interstate splitting our town and so growth is inevitable. And I 55 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:28,160 think that it's just the conversations need to be had about how to do that 56 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:33,280 smart. And I think that both my sellers, the developers, at least the ones I'm 57 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:38,560 working with, are all about how can we make this work for everybody? Um, that's 58 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:44,160 really all I wanted to say to you guys today. Plan to be back as much as 59 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:49,280 possible. So, I will stick around and if anybody doesn't have my number and wants 60 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:53,759 my number um for this purpose, I am married so easy. 61 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:56,759 I would be happy to share that with you. Nice. 62 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,000 » Appreciate that, Molly. Questions or comments from council? 63 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:13,840 Anyone else? I don't have anyone else on the agenda here for items not on the 64 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,840 agenda. So, if there's anyone, Miss Butler, 65 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:30,000 » Donna Butler. So, um, as we just heard about the comp plan and needing to plan 66 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:35,120 for growth, the city did that. We've had developments on the west side. It's 67 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:39,520 true. I mean the east side. And there are a lot of homes that have not sold 68 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:45,520 and properties. And so we've covered that for now. And um and I'm glad that 69 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Molly wants to make it work for everyone. Um everyone I've talked to is 70 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:55,199 not interested in big developments in the bottoms. And I I just would like a 71 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:59,840 clarification if I understood this correctly that 72 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:06,560 the developer wanting to develop in the bottoms is the same developer that has 73 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:11,919 developed the right there on Lewis River that we're 74 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:16,160 going to start with apartments and then >> the sandbox. 75 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,880 » Is that what you're referring to? >> I I I'm just wondering if this it's the 76 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:24,720 same developer. And I don't know anybody that I've talked in this town that's 77 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:28,160 happy about that development. And so I would just say that and I think like it 78 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:33,680 was covered pretty well last time that now is not the time with our traffic. Um 79 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:39,680 this could be put on hold and just see what comes down. So thanks. 80 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:46,720 » So to touch on that development if you remember um back I want to say it was 81 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:51,600 2023 because I think I was running back then 82 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:58,639 that it was going through it was housing development then it was if they didn't 83 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:03,680 get the lot sizes and the help me if I'm wrong here Travis um variances it was 84 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:09,199 going to then be the apartments and that's why for the time there was a sign 85 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:15,120 that said 268 apartments were there. Um and then council at a later meeting gave 86 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:19,840 them a variance um slight variances and then that's where they were able to 87 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:25,160 develop call it roughly 75 homes in there now. But yes, that is the 88 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,160 developer. 89 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:33,840 » I just wanted to make one quick correction. um that developer only owns 90 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:38,319 one of the multiple pieces of property and I want to say they own like in the 91 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,199 neighborhood of 15 acres >> you're talking about now down on the 92 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,880 » on the bottoms >> correct yes absolutely 93 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,720 » so they are one of the multiple developers 94 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:53,120 good point >> okay any questions or comments on that 95 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,280 piece miss shop 96 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:05,520 » I am still totally against houses down in the bottoms. With the infrastructure 97 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:11,120 the way it is, we can't get in or out of town. When there's an accident, you're 98 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:15,919 backed up on the freeway. During the flood, we couldn't get out of town. We 99 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:21,280 had to go up the river and cross over at Jacks and go down Vancouver Clark County 100 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:25,479 side. I am totally against it until they do something about their infrastructure. 101 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:29,120 » Thank you, Michelle. 102 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:39,240 Hold on here. Hold on. 103 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,399 increase your rates by 7%. 104 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Any other comments from council? 105 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:26,720 I just I wanted to make clear that um we are all in agreement that not right now. 106 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:33,519 That was something that Melissa kept saying. Um these houses are not going to 107 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:39,360 come up out of the ground. And um so yes, 100% not right now. I live on Park 108 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:44,959 Street, so I I I am going to be just as impacted if not more so than some of you 109 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:48,880 guys. And so I completely agree. I also want to like nobody's excited about 110 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:54,160 this. The things that we love about Woodland um I would hope wouldn't change 111 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,600 because I think the things that we love about Woodland is the fact that it's the 112 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,959 people and the people that we know and the people that we love and we get to 113 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:06,560 control our circles and keep our circles small if we want to. Um 114 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:11,760 I don't disagree that traffic is an issue. Neither do the developers and and 115 00:10:08,959 --> 00:10:16,880 yes, this is a sad thing. I grew up on 160 acre wild rice farm farming pigs 72 116 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:21,200 miles from the closest freeway. I know what a small town is. My graduating 117 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:26,800 class was 58 people. It still holds the record to this day as the largest class 118 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:30,480 since 1920. So I know small town. I understand small town. This has never 119 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,760 been a small town in my opinion. The second that the freeway came through 120 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:40,800 that that wrote the fate. PDX is 25 minutes from us. So, closest hospital 121 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:47,839 where I grew up, hour and a half drive. You have an emergency, good luck. Um, 122 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,760 it's not like that here. And so, I think the sentiment that I also wanted to 123 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:55,839 convey from my sellers is, yeah, we're all in agreement, guys. We're all going 124 00:10:53,279 --> 00:11:01,200 to be crying some tears and mourning the loss of 125 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:05,279 what once was. However, I do have four children that I would love to be able to 126 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:08,240 afford to live in the town that they grew up in. And right now, the way that 127 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:13,200 things are going, that's not a possibility. Basic economics tells us 128 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:18,320 supply and demand is what drives the market. The demand is high, the supply 129 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:22,800 is low. If we increase the supply, it's it's going to give us a shot at maybe 130 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,000 bringing back what was a starter home, which doesn't really exist right now. 131 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:31,040 » Um, >> can I challenge you on that? So, there's 132 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,440 300 new homes going in. >> What has that done to supply and demand 133 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,240 and the price? >> Great question. 134 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:40,640 » So, you're saying is. >> Yeah. So, I here I'll give you I'll give 135 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:44,560 you a real life example of what I think is like a tangible effect of that. So, 136 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:49,440 Dr. Horton has a home right now, three-bedroom, two-b small backyard for 137 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,519 3.90. I had a listing there on Meadowwood, no backyard. I was trying to 138 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:57,440 sell for$425. I had to cancel the listing. the things that are driving 139 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:01,440 down. If I if I'm looking at a house and I've got a house from 1953 that they're 140 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:05,600 asking for 50 or I can go get a brand new house with a 10-year roof warranty, 141 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:09,200 a 10-year foundation warranty for 390. What do you think I'm going to choose? 142 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,639 They also have the best rates. So, although we're all we are calling it the 143 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:16,800 sandbox, I'm I'm assuming that's what we're talking about. 144 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:21,839 » I I don't there's a place for it. There's a need for it. It is driving the 145 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:27,279 those prices down. Like any of us that have sat on a listing for six months 146 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:30,639 know that this new construction is and so I hear what you're saying like six 147 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,920 these homes we're talking if they're selling for $600,000 how is that going 148 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:38,079 to bring back a starter home? Well, I'm going to tell you my house was built in 149 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:42,160 1943. And so if I have there's a $500,000 brand new home, guess what? My 150 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:46,959 house is going to have to be pretty cheap to be able to bring in an an 151 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,000 asking price. Yeah. >> Well, and ask ask the people that are 152 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:57,639 living in there. Most of them, I believe, young couples that couldn't 153 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,639 afford. I know my kids can't 154 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:04,320 » to be able to get into something under 400,000. 155 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:09,920 » Yeah. So, it's it's I think it's like I don't want to misconrue or misrepresent 156 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:16,959 my sellers or even myself. This is a sad thing and I think it's okay to be sad 157 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:20,880 about it. Um, and I and I I just think it's Gabe I feel like has had the 158 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,480 approach of like, yeah, this kind of this kind of sucked. 159 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:28,000 » Um, but I do think that it's it's something that needs to happen and needs 160 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:32,320 to be done, right? Sorry. >> I think what's alarming is the amount of 161 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,240 homes. 1,153 homes is substantial and that is where I 162 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,079 think everyone kind of goes, >> whoa. Yeah, 163 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:44,959 » it's a lot. It's alarming. I think that being so again I think pressing the 164 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:48,880 narrative of like they're not going to come up out of the ground. We're talking 165 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,399 about a 10-year process and the fact of like at the end of this year in December 166 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:55,760 of this year, again, I might be mistaken, but from what I understand, 167 00:13:54,079 --> 00:14:01,199 Kitz County is putting out their comprehensive plan. They are going to 168 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:05,199 allocate 10,000 homes countywide. Of those 10,000, Woodland's going to be 169 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:10,639 expected to provide 2,000. As are you are you? Unless I'm totally off. Am I 170 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:14,959 off? >> So that's the expectation. We can't meet 171 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:20,800 it. We can't meet it. And I'm not saying it needs to be met tomorrow. 172 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:24,240 » Um but it's this look at a map. We know our limitations. We are not going to go 173 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,399 any farther up Lewis River. We are not going to come up Green Mountain Road. 174 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Looking at a map that train track provides the perfect dividing line. And 175 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,800 as you it has been unzoneed. That area has been unzoneed. It has not been 176 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:41,600 agriculture. Yes, it's been used as agriculture, but it's not been zoned for 177 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:46,880 agriculture for a long time. And so that that train track provides that perfect 178 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,839 » dead stop. And I can tell you right now, those farmers on that ground are going 179 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,720 to fight tooth and nail to keep that in a 180 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:55,839 » um so >> so I want to challenge her something. 181 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:58,880 Again, I'm not trying >> No, I this is what I wanted. I wanted to 182 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:05,680 have a conversation >> because again, an investor 183 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,480 » pumping $15 million into land I can go invest in the stock market 184 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,440 today >> very conservatively and make four or 185 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 five%. >> Sure. 186 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,320 » Are you going to put $15 million and you're telling me we're going to sit on 187 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,959 it for 10 years and we won't see homes for that long? 188 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:22,560 » No, I think the first wasn't the first projection for 300. That was the first 189 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,399 » It is. It's 300. >> Um 200. 190 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:30,959 » So that's why when we I mean >> this is where my conversation is. I'm 191 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:35,360 happy to have dialogue but let's >> you know be realistic about what we're 192 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:39,120 seeing here and not thinking that, oh, there won't be houses here. 193 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,880 » We only have three months of inventory for home. If we were to stop listing any 194 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:49,360 houses right now, three months from now, there would be no more houses to sell. 195 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,720 » Lord willing, the market will go down. >> Yeah. 196 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:56,199 » Yeah. >> Agreed. So, 197 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,199 » so yeah, call me. 198 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:05,120 » Excellent. Thank you, Molly. Any other comments or questions from council? 199 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:11,120 » I think we need to to hear the the developers out because people are 200 00:16:08,079 --> 00:16:16,079 coming. The population is growing above us and below us. It's going to happen. 201 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:21,360 So, do we want to be in charge or do we want the county in charge? 202 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,880 And it takes a while to generate the kind of growth that investments 203 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,680 generate. You know, like the S&P 500 averages 204 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,600 between 8 and 10%, but that's when you look back after a period of time. The 205 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:39,680 S&P 500 8% per year or 10% per year. It's up and 206 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:45,759 down as a lot of you know. So to close our minds as a city at this point is way 207 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:52,240 too early because the growth is going to happen. So from my perspective, 208 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:56,880 I want to hear them out because we're going to grow and if we want businesses 209 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:01,600 and our I'll put it gently, our downtown doesn't 210 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:08,559 exist. In fact, the highest amount of commerce 211 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:14,720 that's anywhere near downtown comes from Ace Hardware. 212 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:18,400 Uh, you know, so we need to keep looking at this. In my 213 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:22,559 opinion, it might be too soon to be like, yes, let's charge forward because 214 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,480 we don't know enough. But to say we don't want to know more, we don't want 215 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:30,080 to belly up for a conversation. I think that that's too close-minded. And I 216 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,160 think that puts us in a bad position from the perspective of inevitable 217 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:38,799 growth. >> I would like to throw out appreciate the 218 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:45,039 comments. Um, when you talk about Callis County and City of Woodland, just as a 219 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:54,720 reminder, the legal issues that happened here in 2002, 20 or 2022, 2023 over this 220 00:17:50,720 --> 00:18:02,799 same area of property, um, where the county sued the city of, you know, where 221 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:06,000 steps were being made to, um, expand the urban growth boundary. So, just want to 222 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:12,320 be careful there. something you want to say, Travis? Got it. So, okay. Just a 223 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:16,600 reminder for our community. Okay. Anything else? 224 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,280 » Come on. 225 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,039 » You're fine. 226 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,240 » It's a small change of topic, but it is a big deal in our world. School starts 227 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:34,799 next Wednesday, and we're really excited. Um, so we've created a new 228 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,799 landing page for new families. if you're new to Woodland, where everything's kind 229 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:43,600 of all in one place as far as getting set up for um transportation, 230 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,360 um finding information out about your schools, um school supply lists, all 231 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,960 that good stuff. We've kind of created a new landing page. You'll see back to 232 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:53,840 school um signs throughout the community with a little QR code that'll take you 233 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:58,080 there. So, if you're a new family in Woodland, um hopefully that'll help you 234 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:01,919 get registered and set up for next week. Um we talked about our school budget 235 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,520 last Thursday. That was our workshop. it's going to be approved uh or go 236 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,840 before the board for approval next Thursday. So, if you're engaged in those 237 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:14,559 topics, we welcome you to that. And uh I did get the uh the legal uh memorandum 238 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,000 of understanding today from the city lawyer regarding the SRO. So, we're 239 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,919 moving forward with that partnership and appreciate your continued support and 240 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:26,160 partnership on that. Um just haven't had time to read it through because I just 241 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:30,799 got it, but um we're moving forward full steam ahead. Excited about the school 242 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:34,720 year. Last year our focus um we spoke a lot about excellence in education. Um 243 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,520 we're building on that this year and we're going to be talking a lot about 244 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:42,480 parent partnerships. So as you see Riley reports and updates from the school 245 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:46,000 district those two topics will be the things that you'll be hearing about. So 246 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:52,559 that's it. >> Appreciate you coming up. Just so clear 247 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:59,679 understanding here with the ILA. So it hasn't come to council. We send it over 248 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,679 here. They review it approve it back. 249 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Okay. >> Questions on that? Anyone? 250 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:18,520 » Thank you. >> Anyone online or in the room for items 251 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,520 not on the agenda? 252 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Just one quick to address um councelor Brown's comment about hearing out and 253 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,799 learning more. They were here at the last council meeting and they presented 254 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:42,000 they gave us all the information and all their plans. I feel like we've heard 255 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:47,600 them out well and there were 10 citizens that spoke against it for now. The 256 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:52,480 overwhelming feeling was it's premature. Let's wait and see what happens with the 257 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:57,360 interchange. Is our traffic going to improve? Are they going to get it right 258 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:02,559 with the roundabouts? Are we still going to have a big problem? And so to spend 259 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,240 time with further discussion on this right now, I think it's not a wise use 260 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:09,919 of time. There's other issues to address, but everyone know like, hey, 261 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:15,440 this may be something we're going to be revisiting. It may be something. And as 262 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:20,320 far as those numbers for housing, that was just the number that Khaled 263 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:23,679 County state mandated that Kitz County come up and they just ran picked this 264 00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:29,679 number said hey Woodland let's put it all in Woodland but that could be 265 00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:33,440 challenged and um so anyway just know that it's not like hey let's just wait 266 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,280 and see. >> I hear you. May I may I address that 267 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:42,720 comment? Um, in my opinion, they didn't show us 268 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:47,280 every single bit in and out of their plan. They showed us, 269 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:51,120 » I guess, a significant amount of the early phases of the plan. 270 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,280 » And when it comes to roundabouts, when it comes to exit 21, 271 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:58,559 » it takes money, it takes resources, >> right? 272 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:02,559 » Infrastructure, it takes resources. So we definitely definitely heard last week 273 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:08,400 that we received over 30 million in traffic impact fees from this project 274 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:12,320 which is money that goes toward infrastructure. We also heard from them 275 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:17,280 they'd be willing to pay for part of the infrastructure in the project. So I 276 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:20,400 don't disagree about the premature part. >> Yeah. 277 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,679 » But I do disagree about brick walling it and making it stop. 278 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:26,080 » Right. And I didn't hear economic growth. 279 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:31,120 » Right. And there were just a few that were need to 280 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:34,799 And there were just a couple >> sorry I just want to say there was just 281 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:38,559 a couple that were brick walling it. Most people said let's let's look at 282 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:43,440 this in the future. So let's just put this on the back burner and see. 283 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:51,120 » Okay. Thank you. >> I just want to ask a question Travis. 284 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:56,159 If they give us numbers and then approve people to develop down in the bottoms 285 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:59,600 without it being annexed into our city limits, 286 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:04,480 it will not count. It will not count for our numbers. It would count for city or 287 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:10,000 for county numbers. Correct. And then we see no benefit as far as our parks, our 288 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:15,360 schools, anything if they do that. And so when they these come down in 289 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:21,360 December, they'll have county numbers, not individual city numbers as well, 290 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:26,320 right? So if they have an astronomical number, they could go and approve this 291 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:31,120 to come develop in the bottoms without us even saying yes. Logistically, 292 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:35,840 correct? >> Right. Okay. So, I just wanted to 293 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:40,400 clarify that that I think my biggest concern is I don't want them to get 294 00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:44,080 county approval and us miss out on all of the opportunities for schools and 295 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:49,679 everything else that we are still going to take the impact of. And if then we're 296 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:54,080 going to be hit as citizens within our city and they're not going to have to 297 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:58,960 pay for it. We are. And I don't want my taxes going up for something we're not 298 00:23:56,159 --> 00:24:02,720 bringing in because we're we're afraid. I don't want our city's size to double. 299 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,960 That many homes were almost doubling our city size. I absolutely agree with that. 300 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,960 But with mandates coming down from the state, we also are not going to be 301 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:14,400 eligible if we're not trying to work towards it for some of the grants we 302 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:21,360 apply for as well, I believe. Is that correct, Riley? Travis, 303 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:25,360 that will affect our point system. >> Yes, we do get deducted points for not 304 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:30,640 being GMA compliant. >> Okay. So, I mean, I'm not in agreement 305 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:34,480 of it, but I am playing a little bit of devil's advocate that our city needs to 306 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,400 realize the whole picture and not just the we don't want this many people. 307 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:42,159 Like, there will be repercussions to us as a city if we don't look at the 308 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:47,840 opportunities and really open our eyes up to it and we just shut the door on it 309 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,960 or push it too far down that this county says, "Yeah, you can go build there." 310 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:55,200 And then we've lost out because we've pushed it too far down the road. So, we 311 00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:01,440 just need to think of that also before we say a hard no because that's where I 312 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:05,679 stand is that you can't push it too far. >> So, I would recommend have conversations 313 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,799 with the three county commissioners, understand where their position on this 314 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,840 all is. Um, >> and I do know where their position is 315 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,799 » and they've all been very vocal, right? So, again, I won't speak for them, but I 316 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:21,840 recommend that you reach out to them with my 317 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:26,960 » that um if we did GB wouldn't that put us back in control 318 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:31,919 if we did what she was talking about. So put the ball in our court we did do 319 00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:37,760 go ahead like just say okay we are going to go for this expansion and then 320 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:40,320 doesn't mean we have to necessarily move on it right away but it puts the ball in 321 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:46,000 our court. I just want to make sure I'm understanding that correctly. 322 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:49,679 » That is correct. So, um, at the presentation last time I pointed out 323 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:55,360 that theoretically there's going to be four steps that you could engage in. One 324 00:25:51,919 --> 00:26:01,440 is, um, county updating their comprehensive plan, city updating its 325 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:07,520 comprehensive plan, then potentially doing a developers agreement or some 326 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:12,720 kind of coordination agreement with the property owners, whether that's the 327 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:18,080 developers or current owners. And then the fourth would be an annexation 328 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:22,640 um piece by piece as it comes out of that agreement that you've negotiated. 329 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:28,039 » So it might be in our best interest to look at expansion just so we can 330 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,039 maintain control 331 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,120 here. I'm just getting I'm just asking these 332 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:50,080 questions. I'm not saying yes or no either way. I just want to have this 333 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:55,000 express for the community to hear and so that we're all clear on what that means. 334 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,000 So that's 335 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,840 any other questions or comments? 336 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:12,720 Come on. 337 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:24,080 When it comes to the mic, my friend >> when it comes to impact fees that we 338 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:28,880 would receive from this kind of a project, 339 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:33,360 the city gets those impact fees. I was under the understanding that this whole 340 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:38,559 traffic situation, exit 21, is a state thing that we're waiting on state 341 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:45,200 dollars and stuff. So, correct. Is there is that an app? Is that really a state 342 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:50,320 project, we will need state funding. We will get impact fees after the houses 343 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:55,200 are built. We don't get them beforehand. And so as those dollars come in, I mean, 344 00:27:53,120 --> 00:28:00,559 the next administration, city council can say, "Hey, we'll contribute to the 345 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:04,720 roundabouts and exit 21 if they want. I don't know why 346 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,000 we would want to use our city dollars to pay for that." But again, that's a whole 347 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,200 another conversation. But you're correct. 348 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,200 » Okay. 349 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:22,240 It's a matter of shortterm versus longterm. So if we know that that money 350 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:27,840 is coming into the city, then we can make plans based on what we expect in 351 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:31,840 the future. So, it isn't so much direct in terms of the traffic impact fees 352 00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:36,320 right now, but the fact that we do know we receive those funds and that we've 353 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,760 got a developer that's got quite a bit of muscle in terms of their ability to 354 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:44,760 develop. If they don't develop these homes, they're going to develop 355 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:44,760 industrial soiven 356 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:54,799 they've done several projects in the area. Again, I'm not saying I'm for this 357 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,480 necessarily, but the fact that we've got future $30 358 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,360 million coming in, the fact that we've got a well established developer that 359 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,960 might in fact have a lot of experience working, 360 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:12,399 we could potentially use that from a relationship management perspective to 361 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:18,080 our benefit for the city. And so I feel like we just need to keep our eyes open 362 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:23,039 here and really what is being presented until it's an absolute 363 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,520 You know, supply and demand says why would you say no? 364 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:34,679 are going to grow too. So maybe we won't have to leave town as much to go get 365 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:34,679 resources 366 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,159 except for Domino's Pizza. 367 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,039 put another workshop down for that. Anything else on this? 368 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:08,240 » All right, moving into 369 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:11,120 agenda approval. >> Motion to approve agenda. 370 00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:14,640 » Second. >> I have a first from Miss Dowy, a second 371 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,520 from Miss Michaelelsson. Questions or comments about tonight's agenda? 372 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,320 » Council member Ray. >> Hi, 373 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,480 » Council Member Brown. >> Hi, 374 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,159 » Council Member Michaelelsson. Hi, >> Council Member Friend. 375 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,600 » Hi, >> Council Member Houston. 376 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,919 » Hi, >> Council Member Dowy. 377 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,399 » I >> All right, moving into reports of 378 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:39,679 standing committee's public safety. >> Um, yes, we met tonight at 5:40. Um, in 379 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:44,240 attendance was chief council member Brown, Council Member Houston, and 380 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:49,039 myself. Um, the first topic was National Night Out, but although a lot of 381 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:53,679 surrounding areas canceled theirs due to the smoke, we kept going and it was a 382 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:59,840 success. And were donated by Walmart and were raffled 383 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:05,200 off. So, that was another big hit. Um, let's see. Also, we did not meet last 384 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:14,480 month. So, I have an update on numbers um between 6:15 to date. Um, they have 385 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:18,720 responded to 1,864 calls to service. Um, during that period, they have made 82 386 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:24,480 arrests, averaging just over two and a half arrests a day. Um, we currently 387 00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:31,279 have two open positions and we'll be hosting oral boards on September 10th um 388 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,880 for those two positions and school starts next week and officer 389 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:41,919 Ketta has transitioned to his SRO schedule for the coming school year so 390 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:45,519 that's exciting and we adjourned at 550 >> questions or comments about public 391 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,519 safety 392 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:05,360 I'm Richard. Uh, you talk about the arrests that have been made over the 393 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:10,799 last time or whatever. Are these actual arrests that are being taken up to Kelso 394 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,799 or these just pullovers? And how you doing? 395 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,679 Yeah, we try to be nice when we arrest people. So, we always ask them how 396 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:26,880 they're doing. >> Um, no, it's a combination of like 397 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,159 suspended drivers, DUIs, um, you know, domestic violence, all all the normal 398 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:33,840 stuff. But not every one of them gets booked in jail to be honest. Suspended 399 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,120 driving a lot of times their jail won't even take. So, they're issued a 400 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:39,760 citation, goes to the courts, they still have to appear, it still counts as an 401 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,399 arrest. But, yeah, it's just a combination of all those things. 402 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:47,519 And we always ask how we do >> because that sounds like quite a few 403 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,120 arrests here in Woodland. >> It is I've been hearing this over and 404 00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:55,360 over and over. >> So I was kind of interested is these 405 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,200 actually arrests or these you know pull over and you know 406 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,480 » Yeah. It like I said it's a combination on the right or something. 407 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,880 » Yeah. I mean if it's a traffic violation you happen to have a warrant for your 408 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,640 arrest or you're suspended yet usually ends in an arrest. But it it's also 409 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,440 busier during the summer months. Um it typically slows down because Criminals 410 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,320 like to stay warm and not be out when it's raining and snowing. 411 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,880 » Okay. I just was want to make sure we're not checking a box for something. No, 412 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,559 » they are actually arresting people. >> Yes. 413 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:29,960 » Okay, perfect. >> Thank you, sir. 414 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:37,360 » Any other comments or questions on public 415 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:42,799 human resources? >> Uh, tonight human resources committee 416 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:49,760 met with Mayor Council member and myself 6:05 p.m. Um there is one position open 417 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:53,840 with the city and that is for payroll position um that is currently open. They 418 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:59,840 will be looking at the first batch of resumes on August 31st. 419 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:04,799 And um there's also the two police positions that council member Daddy has 420 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:09,599 already mentioned. Um right now it looks like they're just entry level 421 00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:11,839 applicants. So that's a very very short meeting. 422 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:19,960 It ended at 607. >> Any questions on those positions? 423 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:28,240 » All right. Finance >> uh finance committee met tonight. In 424 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:34,320 attendance were Council Member Houston, Terry Smith, and myself. Also, a very 425 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,520 short meeting. A few updates. The uh annual Washington State Auditor's Office 426 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:42,000 audit will start at the end of this month. We are beginning budget 427 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:47,280 preparation and we'll have more to come on that next month in September. 428 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,800 And we have three active payroll audits through various agencies happening. 429 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,200 We're complying with all the requests on those. Also noted from ours was the open 430 00:34:53,679 --> 00:35:00,640 payroll clerk position. If you are interested in applying it posted on the 431 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:07,320 website and you're welcome to do so at 65 432 00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:07,320 questions on finance. 433 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:14,920 All right. reports of advisory committees 434 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,920 chamber report 435 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,960 in 436 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:26,160 » oh reports of city council my apologies >> um yes I would like to announce that 437 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:31,920 council member Ray is celebrating a big 50th birthday today so happy birthday to 438 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:37,599 him um also I just um have heard nothing but 439 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:43,119 great things about um warm summer nights and all the different and the movie 440 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:49,599 selection just how wonderful it was. So, good job to DWR on that. Um, also 441 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:52,880 something new, um, the seniors are having the opportunity to paint parking 442 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:56,240 spots at the high school this year. So, if you go to the football games or 443 00:35:54,240 --> 00:36:02,000 you're over at the high school, it is incredible. We already have 40 spots 444 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,720 that have been started um with some more um starting maybe tomorrow night. Um, so 445 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,119 we're super excited about this opportunity. The kids are thrilled. Um, 446 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,400 very creative. So, if you're ever in the area of the high school, drive through. 447 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,960 It's the parking spots closest to the football field. So, um, it's really 448 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:24,960 great opportunity for the kids and it's a new tradition we hope to be starting. 449 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:28,680 So, to say that and everybody, good luck getting back to school. 450 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,920 » Congratulations. Any other 451 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,240 meeting? 452 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,720 Any 453 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,079 other items from 454 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,520 all 455 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:27,920 chamber will the Chamber of Commerce lunchons continue once monthly on the 456 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:32,800 second Tuesday of each month at noon. So the next scheduled lunchon will be 457 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:38,079 September 8th, Tuesday. Sign up for the email blast on the chamber website at 458 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:44,400 woodland woodlandwamber.com or send keith woodlandwamber.com 459 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:48,640 email. Um the golf tournament is this Thursday. If people would like to golf 460 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:53,200 chamber holiday bingo is planned for December 10th. Please reach out for 461 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,400 sponsorship opportunities and please contact the Woodland Chamber if you have 462 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,839 any grand opening ribbon cutting or other promotions. They're always looking 463 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,680 for new members and ideas to work together to encourage, promote, and 464 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,560 preserve economic wellbeing and quality of life in our community. 465 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:22,280 If you are interested in golfing, reach out to the chberica. 466 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,119 Come on up. 467 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:50,160 » Good evening. Adonica Simpson with DWR. Um, we have really great things to 468 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:54,880 report. Uh the Woodland Welcome Center has continued to do uh really well. Uh 469 00:38:53,119 --> 00:39:00,880 we had a few slow days because of the smoke that blew in. We noticed a little 470 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:05,440 bit of a lull there, but um we're continuing to really have a lot of 471 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:12,800 interest from our local people. We had 165 locals for the month of July and 472 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:16,800 then 72 tourists. Um the local folks are coming in and 473 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,680 enjoying getting all kinds of different information that we have on hand 474 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:26,560 including uh events that are coming up which we continue to share. Uh we're 475 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,320 promoting all of the local nonprofits. So if anybody is um doing anything 476 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:36,079 special, we make sure that we're aware of that. Uh make sure we can direct them 477 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:42,240 when they come in. Um it's just gone really really well and everyone's very 478 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:46,160 pleased. Uh we I had several come in today and they were getting information 479 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,960 for Mount St. Helens and as they're going out the door, you know, they're 480 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:54,079 always saying, "Boy, this was a really good stop." And it's just nice to hear 481 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,359 that, you know, um hopefully I can get them to start leaving the Google reviews 482 00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:02,720 and all the things to help with the numbers. But um we're seeing it 483 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,040 firsthand and it's really positive. So we have seen folks from u Michigan, 484 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:15,599 California, Las Vegas, the Ukraine, Arkansas, Arizona, Minnesota, New 485 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:20,079 Zealand, Argentina, and Pennsylvania for just a few that I pulled off of our 486 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:25,520 sheets for just the month of July. And then we have a um United States map on 487 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:29,040 the wall and we have pins and they go and they put their pins in where they're 488 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:35,200 from. So, it's kind of fun. They interact with us that way. Um, but the 489 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:39,599 center continues to get new products in from our vendors. they're uh doing 490 00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:45,200 really well. They're very surprised when they come in and they need to restock 491 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:50,640 their goods and um so it's it's really it's really just a great feeling to see 492 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:56,160 people um appreciating the help with just all kinds of different information. 493 00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:00,560 Um today I helped sell a a discovery pass because all of that's online now, 494 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,720 but I just pulled out the laptop and took care of it for her. And so there's 495 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:09,920 always a way to help people one way or the other. And that's really what we're 496 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:16,560 doing. Um, hot summer nights. Uh, really thank you 497 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:22,720 for the compliments. Our volunteers just have worked so hard. Everything really 498 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:29,280 lined up beautifully. Uh, we're kind of blown away. It really just it just went 499 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:36,319 so much bigger than we even anticipated. Um, we doubled our numbers from last 500 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:44,560 year. So, in a total of the five weeks, we had 2,10 people come. And it's just 501 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:52,079 incredible to see that. Um, it was mindblowing to sit there and see all 502 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:57,680 these folks enjoying um the lake, uh, the vendors, the music, uh, just 503 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:02,560 everything. And then we were able to watch people come down from downtown 504 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:07,599 bringing the food that they had purchased from up there. So, you know, 505 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:12,079 there's choices there, but we have to remember that these numbers are people 506 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:16,880 that are coming and perhaps getting gas on their way to the movie. Um, you know, 507 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,680 they're buying things locally before they get there. And, uh, and then just 508 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:29,920 to see the enjoyment in all the famil family's faces. Uh, the last movie was 509 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:35,520 the Goonies. And it was really cool to see just all the people remembering and 510 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:38,800 sharing stories and uh the children of course have no idea what the Goonies is, 511 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,079 but it doesn't matter. They're running around playing in the bubbles and all 512 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,640 the other, you know, things that we have going on. So, we've really built up a 513 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:51,920 lot of activities before the movie so that there's really no lull in the whole 514 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:58,640 afternoon. And I think that really has helped. the advertising's gone well and 515 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:03,599 um it was just amazing to see we had just under 500 people on that last 516 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:09,119 Friday and that was the opening day of the fair. So to have something like that 517 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:14,960 compete with the fair and have those folks local um is pretty pretty awesome 518 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,880 and affordable for people. So it was really cool. I just want to say, Donica, 519 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:22,400 as a vendor there and my kids being there that we're so sad it's over. Like 520 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,930 we've been looking [laughter] forward to every Friday just like the our entire 521 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:32,079 household is bumped and it's over. It [laughter] was so cool. It was so fun. 522 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:36,160 So, thank you for everyone's hard work, your team. 523 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:40,160 » Yeah, it is. It is. It's It's uh definitely a lot of work. And if 524 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:45,760 anyone's interested in volunteering, we're um a lot more organized about our 525 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:49,920 volunteers now. we have a location, you know, we work out of the welcome center, 526 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:56,720 so it's just a lot easier to organize and take care of the planning um and the 527 00:43:53,359 --> 00:44:01,680 staging for these events. So um if anyone has any interest in that's just 528 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:08,240 one example of what we do. So, we're already gearing up for um Halloween and 529 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:12,640 then Winterfest and uh and then of course continuing to work with the 530 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:17,440 welcome center to make sure it's meeting as many needs as possible. So, we do 531 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:23,040 have a lot going on and but we have a lot of fun and we just really 532 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:29,560 um appreciate the opportunity. So, it's a good deal. 533 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,560 » Excellent. Questions, comments for 534 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:33,319 Excuse 535 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:46,720 the mayor. Um, really quickly, upcoming events. There's a planning commission 536 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:51,280 meeting at 700 p.m. This is Thursday. Labor Day will be closed off on 537 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:56,079 September 7th, city council being moved to Tuesday night, September 8th, 7 p.m. 538 00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:01,760 right here. And then there will be a public hearing on the 15th regarding 539 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:06,480 Island Air Drive at 10 a.m. on September 15th and then the 21st will be 540 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:11,200 our second city council meeting um reports tonight really quickly. There 541 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:16,319 was a public records request that came in to the city um here after our last 542 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,200 council meeting and I just want to touch on it really briefly um because it was 543 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:25,200 kind of directed kind of towards me. I had said that I had met with the 544 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,640 developers for dinner and I look at it this way and say, "Hey, I'm an open 545 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:34,560 book. I'll be happy to have a conversation here." So, it was who paid 546 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:40,000 for the dinner, what conversations, and the whole nine yards. And the irony here 547 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:45,040 is we previously have had expense or public records requests come in and they 548 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:48,400 were, you know, extenduating, you know, continuous and there was conversation 549 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:53,680 around and now it's all of a sudden, hey, let's go. So, I thought I would at 550 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:59,440 least share with the community what my involvement has been. So, on June 23rd, 551 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:03,200 I had a missed call from Mr. Luke Sassy for 30 seconds. He was wanting to 552 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:08,640 introduce himself and see if he could get together for a dinner or breakfast. 553 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:14,319 On the 26th, he left me another 32 second voicemail message asking if he 554 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:20,640 could get together with me. I returned his call on the 26th of June at 6:28 555 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,480 p.m. that four minutes introducing myself and said, "Hey, let's meet for 556 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,680 breakfast." That same night, he sent me a text 557 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:32,800 message back that said, "We couldn't swing to get together the next morning, 558 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:39,280 but maybe we could do it another day." On the 28th, two days later, I sent a 559 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:46,720 note to him, a text, and said, "How about working tomorrow, uh, Monday at 5 560 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:51,680 or 5:30?" He sent me a call. didn't leave a voicemail that same night, but 561 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:57,440 then that night at 9:53, he said, "Good evening, 5:00 p.m. tomorrow night. Would 562 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:03,520 work great." I sent a text back at 4:51 a.m. and said, "Perfect. I'll see you at 563 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:09,599 the Oak Tree tonight, the 29th for dinner at 6:20 or at 11:31 a.m. that 564 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,440 same day." He said, "Sounds good. I will see you there." When it comes down to 565 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:21,000 the dinner, here is my City Bank credit card. 566 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,000 I paid $5269 567 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:29,839 for that dinner where there was myself, Sam, Houston, Aaho, Luke, and Ty, and 568 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:34,880 Riley. The $5259 paid out of my own pocket was for Riley 569 00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:39,119 and myself. I'm not And Molly sitting there kind of laughing because people 570 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:43,040 who know me know I will not let people pay for me and I will not pay for anyone 571 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:49,040 else. And I will not use a city credit card or city funds for anything. Nothing 572 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:53,560 against this here because she could laugh. This is how I roll. 573 00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:02,400 » And I said no. So I just would like to have that out there. We will put this 574 00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:09,200 public records request there. But I want people in the room, people online to 575 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:12,200 know that is how Mr. Dinhardt rules and my 576 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:16,839 me 577 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,440 and I guess I should have said what happened at that dinner. I sat down. I 578 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,720 came 15 minutes late and Riley's laughing and Molly is probably laughing 579 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,079 because she heard. I sat down and said just so you know this short meeting 580 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:44,319 because I'm not in favor of this and I don't know what's in this for me and the 581 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:49,200 city of as a resident. So I apologize m I mean you and I I appreciate you. I 582 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,520 appreciate our dialogue you know on various things throughout the community. 583 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,000 So >> I'm thankful for your transparency as 584 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:01,200 well. When I was running cannabis to be up here um he 585 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:07,040 offered to buy for me and was like this is my personal not use city funds unlike 586 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,440 well I don't need to say it don't know so I appreciate that 587 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:16,319 » so that is my mayor's message tonight I appreciate you going through my journey 588 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,760 with me for five minutes [laughter] but with that we will move to our unless 589 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,920 there's somebody who has a question about it 590 00:49:23,909 --> 00:49:30,459 [laughter] I had a salad with dressing and he had a 591 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,040 chili cheeseburg >> [laughter] 592 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,040 » I have 593 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,640 » that night. >> Great question. 594 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:42,904 » I'd like you to go through a poly on that one because I'm I guarantee I did 595 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:46,960 not have that. [laughter] 596 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:51,200 » So, all right, >> moving into consent items. 597 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:56,559 » Motion to approve consent items. >> Uh, any questions or comments from our 598 00:49:53,200 --> 00:50:01,960 meeting minutes from the last meeting? I have a first from Miss Dow, a second 599 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,960 from Mr. Houston. 600 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,040 » Council member Friend. >> I. 601 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,559 » Council member Houston. >> Hi. 602 00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:08,000 » Council member Michaelelsson. >> Hi. 603 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,440 » Council member Dowy. >> I. 604 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,720 » Council member Ray. >> Hi. 605 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,520 » Council member Brown. >> Hi. 606 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:18,559 » All right. Moving to the action items. Approve vouchers August 1st, 2020. 607 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:24,319 » Second. >> I have a first from Mr. Houston and a 608 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:29,200 second from Mr. Friend. Just a comment on uh Couple of the items in there, 609 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,440 checks this month. There is a check to the city or to the Woodland schools for 610 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,240 $153,000 for impact fees. We are a pass through. 611 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:43,359 We don't collect We collect those, but then passing through $88,000 of that is 612 00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:48,319 related to the apartments on street. So, I just wanted people to 613 00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:53,720 have visibility to that. Any questions or comments on any of the 614 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,720 payments or the vouchers? 615 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,440 Council member Brown. >> Hi. 616 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:01,280 » Council member Ray. >> Hi. 617 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,960 » Council member Michaelelsson. >> Hi. 618 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,480 » Council member Dowy. >> Hi. 619 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,079 » Council member Houston. >> Hi. 620 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,720 » Council member friends. >> I. 621 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:16,240 » All right. The time is now 7:50. We'll move into workshop retooling our code 622 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:19,240 enforce code enforcement updates. >> Travis. 623 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,119 Thank you very much. As you mentioned, the planning commission will be meeting 624 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:33,119 this Thursday and we've been working um for I don't know about the last year on 625 00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:38,720 various code amendments and this one is right. So, they will be making a um 626 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,880 they'll be having a workshop make a recommendation for you at the next 627 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,520 available meeting and essentially the highlights of this were dealing with 628 00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:53,200 code enforcement. We wanted some clarification for our code enforcement 629 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:58,960 and some of the items that are clarified are um hours of construction activity 630 00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:04,880 making sure that it's perfectly clear the hours of operation for hours of 631 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:09,520 construction and noise during the week and that there can be no construction 632 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:14,319 activity that creates noise on Thursdays and Saturdays with permission only. So 633 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:21,520 it's Monday through Friday, Saturday with restrictions, Sunday prohibited. Um 634 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:29,280 we also discussed a significant amount of um setting penalties, the rates of 635 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:36,480 penalties and that the current rate is generally $25 for each violation each 636 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:43,359 day and that how slowly that adds up in the case of egregious violations. And so 637 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:49,599 they are um they like the idea of doing a graduated scale of The first 30 days 638 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:57,040 is one rate, then it increases for day 31 through 60, and then day 61 through 639 00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:03,440 90 is a higher higher amount. And that the code specifically says we can start 640 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:07,440 leaning on day 91. So that way, if somebody is just ignoring our notices 641 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:14,720 and it's getting more and more expensive, the more they refuse to uh 642 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:21,760 take action. Um and this none of the changes proposed um will affect how we 643 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:27,200 are handling code enforcement. So the code enforcement officer makes every 644 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:32,319 effort they can to negotiate and create a solution without going to a notice and 645 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:36,880 order. That's kind of our last step in the process and that's when the penalty 646 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,440 starts. So it won't affect how that occurs. 647 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:48,720 Generally those are the big ticket items that are going to um change. 648 00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:52,960 » Do you want to touch on code enforcement versus 649 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:58,720 doing this? I mean because I think this is a win you want to touch on. 650 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:06,000 » Sure. So um one of the things that we did do um that is policy want for guys 651 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:11,040 like me and that is clarifying exactly what is the development code for the 652 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:17,599 purposes of code enforcement because we do not do vehicular stops. We do not do 653 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:24,079 parking in the street or any kind of enforcement. Those are police duties. 654 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:29,920 But if it's storage of vehicles in yards, in front yards, backyards, how 655 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:36,079 long they can store material and what when it becomes a nuisance for the 656 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:41,440 property is where we deal with. So um we've clarified exactly what codes. So 657 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:49,119 building codes, subdivision code, zoning code, um and the various land use codes 658 00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:54,839 have been clarified as a result of this. It doesn't get into any kind of 659 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:54,839 misdemean. 660 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:25,000 This is for commercial. 661 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,640 » I I assume that whatever's decided by planning commission is going to come 662 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,640 forth with an action item for us to review. 663 00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:50,799 » I just want to say I appreciate um and how quickly she takes action. 664 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:55,280 there's enforcement that and then she gives you a response um of what she 665 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:59,440 found. So, I just appreciate that because I know that's not always been 666 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:03,599 the case around here. And so, if any of you find anything in your community that 667 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:08,480 you want to take forth that to know that it's actually getting resolved or you'll 668 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:11,799 have some kind of resolve from it. I appreciate that. 669 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:19,359 » Any other comments or questions from the community members coming out of the 670 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:30,319 All right, with that we will now 7:56 we will leave workshop and go into our 671 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,160 meeting >> motion to end meeting 672 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:37,119 » time is now 7:56. Have a great evening everyone. 673 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,920 » Anyone wants cupcakes or cookies feel free to come up and grab some.