1 00:00:00,460 --> 00:00:02,940 So, we're going to do a possible line, we'll repeat. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,040 So, you know, we'll try to maximize that. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,840 And we will always just protein is forbidden. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,160 And so it's not expensive. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,700 Yeah, I don't know about. 6 00:00:15,340 --> 00:00:16,620 Put two coders. 7 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:17,760 Like the cat drink. 8 00:00:18,940 --> 00:00:20,980 So, this is the case that we can't get the protein. 9 00:00:21,220 --> 00:00:23,140 So, the most expensive can buy. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,740 Yeah, it's one of the important things we'll see what the power is to do. 11 00:00:56,740 --> 00:00:57,720 The whole way through. 12 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,840 It is Christine. 13 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,780 It's a Christina. 14 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:00,420 Okay. 15 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:01,220 What's your name? 16 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:02,540 She and me on the hand. 17 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:03,820 We have a different person. 18 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:05,900 Okay. 19 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:14,090 Oh, gosh. 20 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:16,030 I teach. 21 00:02:16,990 --> 00:02:17,270 All right. 22 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:20,330 We're having some technical difficulties, but we're back. 23 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:22,790 So we call this meeting to order. 24 00:02:23,010 --> 00:02:23,610 And please rise. 25 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:23,990 Join me. 26 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:31,800 I'm going to introduce you to the United States of America. 27 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:40,160 And it's very, very, very close to science, one nation under God, and it is a little, with liberty and justice from. 28 00:02:42,990 --> 00:03:00,890 You do, Carl, Carl, okay, Christian is here calling me, Michael is here, Christian, or calling Robinson is online, here, there are no verses here, Nathan is excused, but then is sitting in front of this morning. 29 00:03:01,870 --> 00:03:08,410 Mr. Jackson, Mr. Sherry Dickerson, there she is, brought us here, Glendellus, 30 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:12,600 at this time, 31 00:03:12,820 --> 00:03:20,580 Greg is here, got them to work and well, I'm, well, okay, I'm Kathy is here, Leslie Bond, 32 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:28,200 I saw all mine, here I heard, thank you. Rachel Anderson, I saw it was on mine, councilperson, 33 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,700 And that's just... 34 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:30,000 Yes. 35 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:31,980 Okay. 36 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:32,980 Okay. 37 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:33,760 Look at this here. 38 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Sarah Martinez has excused. 39 00:03:37,460 --> 00:03:38,240 So I'm worried. 40 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,840 So I'm worried. 41 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,040 I've just gone. 42 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:45,290 You know, hard times. 43 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:46,570 I'm going to like to the website. 44 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:49,090 That's what I mean. 45 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:52,030 I'm trying. 46 00:03:53,410 --> 00:03:55,690 And then Wendy is out there. 47 00:03:57,660 --> 00:04:01,280 Are there any modifications to the agenda? 48 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Yes, there are, both of our presentations have cancelled out for this morning. 49 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,700 Jill is fighting COVID and David Henry. 50 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:24,370 They did feel that their 80-year financing was at a point to be brought out yet. 51 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:29,470 David's boss said, you know, the preferable debt back for a little bit. 52 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:32,290 So, both of the presentations have cancelled. 53 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:33,230 Okay. 54 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:34,730 What would that be? 55 00:04:34,930 --> 00:04:35,670 Any other modifications? 56 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:38,110 Okay. 57 00:04:38,110 --> 00:04:42,090 Can I have a motion to approve the agenda excluding the presentations? 58 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:45,870 I should approve the agenda, including the presentations. 59 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:48,450 Okay. 60 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:49,310 All right. 61 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:56,820 Next we need to have a motion to approve the minutes. 62 00:05:12,190 --> 00:05:16,050 Okay, we will move to public comment. 63 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:18,050 Thank you for our wonderful work today. 64 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:19,010 Public comment? 65 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:20,050 Oh, no. 66 00:05:20,830 --> 00:05:21,510 No, I'm not. 67 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:22,070 I'm not working by. 68 00:05:22,330 --> 00:05:22,730 I'm not working. 69 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:25,730 Sorry, I got a lot of public involved. 70 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:27,230 Okay. 71 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:30,710 Here in no public comment, we'll move on to old business. 72 00:05:31,470 --> 00:05:33,910 Jim's been working on violent amendments. 73 00:05:34,130 --> 00:05:34,410 Yes. 74 00:05:34,650 --> 00:05:35,690 And Andrew packet? 75 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:55,380 Yes. 76 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:02,800 He's through the change. 77 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,280 But look at basically through this going through. 78 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,080 Initially, we were looking at a couple of things. 79 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,040 What got us started in this is one. 80 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Clare flight, we need to change. 81 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:21,680 Territaker's organization from the North Olympic Regional 82 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 to the Sergeant's Veterans Support. 83 00:06:25,660 --> 00:06:31,460 And then the other was including that we had 84 00:06:31,460 --> 00:06:32,720 Olympic housing trust. 85 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:36,740 And Catherine Morgan had left only cat. 86 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:42,040 And then had moved over to a little Olympic housing trust, which I think is a great deal. 87 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,860 It's kind of a path of energy that they could probably be able to see a lot more of them 88 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:50,080 in Colorado County and doing a lot more action. 89 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:57,040 How we need, like I say, that that was, we had the discussion about including them in a representative, 90 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,340 we want to make sure that we are inclusive of organizations that are doing 91 00:07:01,340 --> 00:07:07,040 and they are really one that is doing the last-trust community front-trust models. 92 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,260 So those were just the two under, you know, just some housekeeping type issues. 93 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,460 But we want to get a representative from the District Council Trust. 94 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:26,500 And then at the last meeting, it was kind of concerning alternatives. 95 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:34,320 And I look through, some of our committees do, some of our committees don't have alternate. 96 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,720 I think we've never had an issue passing, 97 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:47,120 passing that sort of thing. 98 00:07:50,780 --> 00:07:55,000 It's a catch point too, if you know, 50, 50, whatever the community wants to do. 99 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:03,600 I mean, you know, with them dead, I know MRC just brought a motion forward that they had 100 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,440 a member that stepped down and the alternate, I mean, to try and try and try to get 101 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,420 through to the alternate. 102 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,520 So they had to bring it to the VLCC to have the alternate removed and then, you know, go back 103 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,440 through the process. 104 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,520 I think you get into a lot of, if you start going through, then, you know, from a tendency 105 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:31,220 record, not sort of saying, but I would have been in here for committing discussion. 106 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:39,990 I am D.E.S. maybe you should just where we're looking at right here. 107 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:46,900 I have a B. I'm paid one. 108 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:51,420 Members are presenting the one positive of a mental. 109 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,860 Well, and then it says, shall not have limits on the length of their terms, but then yet on D 110 00:08:57,860 --> 00:09:02,760 in the next page, it says a pearl full term shall be three years in length in no longer. 111 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,820 For the following members, she'll be appointed to a term of three years, and that is the 112 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:13,340 North Peninsula Building Association, the Square Relators Association, 113 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:18,740 the Port 114 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:26,980 large. And so now he is referencing C? Yes. And I think I would not put a D here. 115 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Okay. 116 00:09:32,770 --> 00:09:40,090 So D is the next one about appointment. And then you're removing D. So E is now alternate. 117 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:43,730 Yes. He will go back and then move back up. 118 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,880 And then I also removed out E that, you know, 119 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,980 we'll point somebody from the staff now that we have. 120 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,820 I didn't do all that we do because we're less good. 121 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,500 You should try to write yourself into the by-laws. 122 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:15,900 So the culture nets need to at any time be the organizations, 123 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,660 organizations that send the letter to you and the chair at any time to identify 124 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:25,180 or is there like a certain time of year you want that done? 125 00:10:26,020 --> 00:10:29,560 I think it's just a little bit of a changey because I mean, one of the issues that 126 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:34,160 go through unless you're with, like I said, if you're a 127 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,400 quality of transit, for instance, that they have city council 128 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,040 members and commissioners, but both everybody that they have, the 129 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:49,380 alternates and that have gone through the very process and not any 130 00:10:49,380 --> 00:10:52,880 alternative that any alternate that's coming through here will have to go 131 00:10:52,880 --> 00:11:02,880 through HR, your screen, and then go to the commissioners for approval. 132 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Okay. So, for example, once this gets approved, we would need the city of 133 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,640 pre-angeles to go through that process when they're all turned it. 134 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:21,260 I think more than the city opened, the city staff was all been, as all the background checks 135 00:11:21,260 --> 00:11:22,340 on them. 136 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:29,420 You know, I think it's more the non-governmental organizations that would be required. 137 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:31,520 It seems like it probably should be everyone. 138 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:36,440 I mean, if everyone has to go to the city, it's already gone through the counties over there. 139 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,500 Gone through that process, so that's not your way. 140 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,900 But they would go, they'll be approved by the commissioners. 141 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:48,120 So the point of having an alternate is, if I can't make a meeting, I send this person, right? 142 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,800 And we should send that person, and that person is not going to be able to vote. 143 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:56,800 No, the first person would be able to vote. 144 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,440 So, that was an alternate. 145 00:11:59,080 --> 00:11:59,300 Okay. 146 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,020 So, cut it. 147 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:03,680 That's kind of it. 148 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:10,000 But the issue that you've read into is that if things are going, you know, a couple of months 149 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,660 And then you have somebody that is coming in new, then you may be backing up and starting 150 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:20,440 over because somebody doesn't understand, you know, where is what the history is. 151 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:29,700 It's a reasoning for limiting NPBAs in two real-term association at large to three 152 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,300 or terms when all the others are not limited. 153 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,860 Maybe it's great that part. 154 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,940 It's really hard. 155 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:50,500 I think we have a lot of continuity from the private sector and that may be when this year 156 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:54,440 three years from get up and I'm not ready to have you go away. 157 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:55,560 Yeah. 158 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:55,620 Right. 159 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,980 We have to go away. 160 00:12:57,380 --> 00:12:57,560 Great. 161 00:12:58,340 --> 00:12:59,400 It was just renewed. 162 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,900 But I know it was the animal solution device. 163 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:10,520 But I know with the animal solution advisory committee. 164 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,040 It's all under even the committee members at large. 165 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:21,520 It's not that we have a long list of people waiting to serve 166 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:27,130 when they have the expertise that we need. 167 00:13:27,490 --> 00:13:29,990 Why not? I didn't really believe it's just the realtor's interest. 168 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:36,890 And there's a building that has stepped up and had someone, and I don't know why I would limit it. 169 00:13:37,890 --> 00:13:40,890 There's no provision on consecutive terms though. 170 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:43,410 So we have no longer a full term? 171 00:13:43,410 --> 00:13:46,730 I know, well a term is three years and no longer. 172 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:50,550 But you can do a second term of three years and no longer. 173 00:13:50,890 --> 00:13:52,130 Yeah, so if there's no, you're right. 174 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,170 No, it doesn't. 175 00:13:55,190 --> 00:13:57,950 It doesn't really say that it just says in order to preserve 176 00:13:57,950 --> 00:14:00,290 continuity terms being set for failing. 177 00:14:00,850 --> 00:14:02,890 Let me preface that our intent... 178 00:14:03,970 --> 00:14:06,230 It's what it doesn't say if you're planted. 179 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:11,850 But you're going to work that has just been period up to work three years ago. 180 00:14:12,070 --> 00:14:14,610 Yeah, you're going to work three years ago longer. 181 00:14:16,130 --> 00:14:18,830 Because that's no longer referring to the term white. 182 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:20,570 Exactly, not the individual survey. 183 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:22,790 Look, this is the answer to that matter. 184 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:24,230 But you're going to be the other way. 185 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:30,110 But for that matter, I think I would move it again too. 186 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:33,490 Is anyone tracking the community? 187 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:36,130 people, I'm to the committee. 188 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:38,710 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think 189 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:43,850 great was you can't I, you can't, you can't, 190 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:45,550 you can't, you can't, because those have no 191 00:14:45,550 --> 00:14:47,010 way for their class. 192 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:50,190 Well, but if you want community, if you want 193 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:52,630 the villagers and the housing people, which they 194 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:57,410 are involved in this, then should they just be within that. 195 00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,550 So you're saying, remove the sentence. 196 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,980 The front of C, the front of C, and can you shoot them in no less? 197 00:15:04,540 --> 00:15:13,740 Yeah, that they are, you know what, and if somebody doesn't, you know, like, say, Greg decides to retire or something like that. 198 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,420 And they point somebody new, and that person will go through and be approved. 199 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:19,100 But you know, what did they would say? 200 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:24,720 You know, when you need three years trying to figure out who is and who is it, up for 201 00:15:28,210 --> 00:15:30,770 the art part of the housing, you know, within the cloud. 202 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:44,800 prefer that we not limit the terms of any numbers. I'm going to make what 203 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:54,660 see on page two into what is causing me to twitch. The R versus a B and a 204 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:55,360 number. 205 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Over to the air and some people are on the ground I guess. You go R. T to U. 206 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:18,280 Well, actually, I do R, and then put that whole paragraph as R because those three are going to be by the associations for three years. 207 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:22,680 I'm not sure if your association is always going to say, here's my person for three years, 208 00:16:25,530 --> 00:16:28,290 this whole part feels close. 209 00:16:28,810 --> 00:16:34,090 Well, how is it? How is it? I don't see any difference between the EEC as an example. 210 00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:44,290 How did our re-liter representatives get chosen? 211 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:49,310 We asked them if they would not need them. 212 00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:50,290 They would not need them. 213 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:53,130 They would not need them. 214 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:05,300 This won't be considered next meeting stage. 215 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,020 This is F.B. 216 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,900 We need to have you make some changes. 217 00:17:14,860 --> 00:17:15,380 So 218 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,900 then we have the alternate tably cleared that up sufficiently. 219 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:29,580 Because I say that you would put 220 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,600 everything going to just you're going to put it all the way down to the road. 221 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:38,640 And everybody is going to have to decide. 222 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,080 I'm also going to do that. 223 00:17:44,410 --> 00:17:49,250 And as far as I understand another committee's all the alternate scope through the same process. 224 00:17:49,490 --> 00:17:50,690 It doesn't matter who they will. 225 00:17:55,750 --> 00:18:03,030 And then you fill out one page, or you fill out the whole packet to finish on what it is. 226 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:08,870 Were there any other changes that you made? 227 00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:14,050 Well, like I said, what I didn't, but because what I did add is it. 228 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:16,470 And those are just an almost two pages. 229 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:22,950 But now what it will be is that, like I say, it all under V, everybody will have an alternate there. 230 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,900 I think you mentioned me something about a poor changing, did that? 231 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,200 No. 232 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,860 You don't change it. 233 00:18:41,630 --> 00:18:42,070 No, I didn't. 234 00:18:42,790 --> 00:18:43,190 You don't change it. 235 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:43,790 I'm a majority. 236 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:45,010 Okay. 237 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,720 Is there other items that you would like to see changed? 238 00:18:56,790 --> 00:18:57,930 We will not go then. 239 00:18:57,930 --> 00:19:00,390 Then we will have maybe able to. 240 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:04,470 Since we have to introduce someone meeting and do it the next. 241 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:06,270 And you're so weird. 242 00:19:06,530 --> 00:19:07,510 So we're out a couple of months. 243 00:19:08,910 --> 00:19:09,390 So 244 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:15,330 how can make changes in a bring it back next month? 245 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:23,360 Yeah, maybe a couple of us could talk with him about how we're reading a few of these. 246 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:27,660 I would suggest that Tim circulated to at least two people on that. 247 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,440 Second sentence, we're all right. 248 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,660 There we go. 249 00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:36,460 You don't have to care about your lead rod. 250 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,520 I sure can. 251 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:38,280 There we go. 252 00:19:38,620 --> 00:19:41,580 Maybe you have a slide bar about how we're reading that. 253 00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:43,720 What was thought behind that? 254 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,680 I don't think 255 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:54,950 you're about vacation. 256 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:57,130 That was a problem. 257 00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:59,610 Guys, I just got back from vacation. 258 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,140 Okay. Okay. 259 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:08,600 Well, moving on to no new business. 260 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:16,720 You have an update for us? I do. You know, a couple of things. 261 00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:22,740 We paid out, received invoice for $162,000 for a 262 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:25,800 squeds fit for a Peninsula Behavioral Health 263 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,560 fifth and fourth, that project is going along rather nicely 264 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,900 to look at probably the end of the month. 265 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,880 We complete, so probably we're going to cut each somewhere. 266 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,380 Sherrius, are Sherrius. 267 00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:43,060 Wendy is on, and it can't say how many units. 268 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,060 That's five. 269 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:52,080 I did that in an additional bedroom there, and then the central heat there is all been 270 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,360 we've done, a lot of the lighting all before we filled in the kitchen at a one-three 271 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,020 area. 272 00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:05,680 But they're looking at the end of the month for that to be done. Kind of I know 273 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Wendy is also needy into Apple Health application. They were waiting, they're using the same third party cost analyst. 274 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:27,440 Housing authority uses to come through and do the numbers and see where they're at. 275 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:37,360 I have heard from, you know, where I imagine Sarah Anani or in the same situation, the housing 276 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:42,180 trust fund closest, I believe, the 18th of September in that neighborhood. 277 00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:48,040 So I think everybody's scrambled there's none, 278 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:52,140 there's very limited money 279 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,560 in the majority 280 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,600 of the funds that were allocated, we spent last year on it, so we're looking at a long session 281 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:10,240 next year, we probably have more money allocated to things, we're looking at, 282 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,560 we received 283 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:20,180 a couple of call-in-it set out, some stuff about mobile home work. 284 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:31,520 $2.7 million, charging $775 per 285 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:41,620 in-squim right next to the state-wing, so there's 23 mobile 286 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:50,440 homesites, and they're all single-white, and then 11 RV sites into 775 bucks per month. 287 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:52,240 Is it really a new look at this? 288 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,740 One point nine one eight. 289 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,480 It's got to be for sale for a long time, because it doesn't have, I mean, it's 290 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,740 pod holes and everything getting into that site hat. 291 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:06,660 And I want to say, Commissioner Johnson, and I looked at that one point, and 292 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:14,100 cap rate just to need the work on by that. So did they raise the rates there? Yes. So what 293 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:19,100 were they before? I mean, what were they used to do? I don't know what they were before, but I 294 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:27,340 know they are as of September 1st. They raised it. They're raising it to 775 a month. Yeah. And 295 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:33,770 it's a category of calculations. Yeah. And that's kind of what they're trying to do, but it's not worth 296 00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:36,250 what they're asking for. 297 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:44,870 And it's kind of one of those things they're with, it's a look at 298 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:47,430 you're kind of going, okay, is this the highest of this use? 299 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:52,990 What's kind of? I was needed use. 300 00:23:53,210 --> 00:23:54,770 Yeah, we'd just place our house. 301 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,240 The gentleman that's selling it, he's had quite a few up for sale. 302 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,620 And I think he was also trying to sell him a gold. 303 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:10,320 Yeah. 304 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,220 And I don't think they sold that, did they? 305 00:24:12,220 --> 00:24:13,020 No, they pulled it. 306 00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:16,620 So over off of the West End of Port Angeles, 307 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,460 he was trying to sell that mobile home part two. 308 00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:21,600 And the numbers didn't work here. 309 00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:23,260 I mean, like I say, 310 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,800 that's higher than what you're paying at, 311 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,940 lie on your meadows down there. 312 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,840 And it's, you know, you're not even in the same. 313 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,840 What is not in your medals? 314 00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:41,380 $6.95 is what it was, but I think that there, I've even heard that at the last real 315 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:46,880 little meeting in the square, and that they dropped down to some $5.95 in there, and they're 316 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,200 trying to get people in there, and because they're just not moving fast. 317 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:59,960 And they bought out Hendrickson and they bought out West Older, and they were raising the 318 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:07,380 We're going to advance there to try, but they weren't going more than the 695 that they would charge in 11 or 319 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:14,440 775. You know, that's kind of like the person out in forks that was charging $1,000. 320 00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:22,660 That's fine. That's just, you know, you would lose everybody in there at that kind of money. 321 00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:32,220 So, the tremendous carry costs on that level of rentals and it's only 25% done, there's still 150 empty lots. 322 00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:39,160 And then I don't understand why they don't take that down and make that into it. 323 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:46,890 I do a way with a senior of the 55 and over, just turn that into, you know, fill it out. 324 00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:58,070 You can, you know, but I don't know that a lot of people that go into those have gone into them, but without knowing, you know, where's you and is, you know, what kind of rate can they range? 325 00:25:58,130 --> 00:26:06,330 They lower it from 6.95 to 5.95. Does that apply to all lots or only the ones that have not left yet? 326 00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:07,930 I don't know if I'm going to say it yet. 327 00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:10,010 It started at 800. 328 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:14,570 Because I am looking that they were down to 60. 329 00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:15,810 All of it, not for you. 330 00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:17,030 No, no. 331 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:17,830 It's all. 332 00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:19,830 Because again, it's a Denver investor. 333 00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:24,620 Because they've changed three times. 334 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,420 I don't know if they've changed three times. 335 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,460 The original of the novel was from Silverdale. 336 00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:33,080 And then sold it to... 337 00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:35,820 It's probably three times, yeah. 338 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:40,900 Yeah. 339 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,280 of the name of the mobile home quartet. 340 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,380 It's emerald something by fair amount. 341 00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:53,640 Yeah, there was someone that was looking a bunch 342 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,200 of local investors were looking at buying it, 343 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,620 but it has a lot of environmental issues with the big tank 344 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:02,960 there that needs to be removed. 345 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,520 And that wasn't on the market. 346 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,920 That was a private sale. 347 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:14,560 So they don't spend the seller wouldn't come down to a reasonable price 348 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,620 considering all the environmental issues that are there. 349 00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:22,260 I don't know what you mean. 350 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,140 They also, in order to make that work, 351 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,140 you have to expand and out. 352 00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:29,340 You may have, they have a lot of empty locations 353 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:31,340 where you could put tiny homes. 354 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,280 But there's been a lot of... 355 00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:39,210 I'm going to tell you that. 356 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:39,930 Yeah, no, no. 357 00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:44,570 It's because I need people for wanting to move into it. 358 00:27:48,550 --> 00:27:48,770 Yes. 359 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,240 Back to those smaller, long parks. 360 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:55,880 Sounds like there are potentially several 361 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:02,220 for sale across the county and, you know, some significant rent increases, is there anything 362 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:03,220 that this is 363 00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:09,610 going to be doing to, 364 00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:20,680 you know, if someone decides that there's a higher 365 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,520 there you use it. 366 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,960 We've got one, you know, 30 or 40 people on this, you know, if we put it several of those 367 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,580 parts 368 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:40,880 over this, with regard to those private transactions, but if anyone has any thoughts 369 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,910 about that, take care of that. 370 00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:51,290 And that certainly seems to be one of the best pressures in one of our biggest potentials. 371 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,840 He's 372 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:09,640 worked then, and he's in an IML with Victoria O'Brien, a brilliant, a few types. 373 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:20,780 And she is Northwest, a Northwest co-operative that works with the landlords or the tenants to acquire the property. 374 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:24,080 And they provide the technical support to make that happen. 375 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,780 I know this morning in Washington State Department, 376 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,340 their daily bulletin that came out, and they had, 377 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240 I certainly have to afford it to be, 378 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,910 they're talking about important information, 379 00:29:39,910 --> 00:29:44,350 information, and tips on submitting notice of opportunity to keep the purchase. 380 00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:48,730 And that's really, I mean, I think what we need to be doing is being able to see 381 00:29:48,730 --> 00:29:56,170 if we can work with the tenets of these parks to acquire. It's kind of like when Oxbow 382 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:59,970 came for sale out in forks, that now with worse... 383 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:06,920 The legislature's last deal that they have to offer to the tenants before they can put it out to deal with. 384 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:15,300 Right. From what I understand from the investors, the reason why we're seeing so many go in the market is because of this new change in law. 385 00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:19,840 They don't want to deal with it, so they're trying to sell before a lot of these things. 386 00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:27,800 You win a lot, becomes effectively, because I think that's right. You have to put it out, so all the owners can buy the property. 387 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,880 I mean, I see it as too full, I mean, I don't disagree that maybe we should explore 388 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:40,020 how do we facilitate because it seems like a technically, it's a heavy lift for a group 389 00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:44,240 of people to come together and form a co-op, basically, to do this purchase idea. 390 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,840 But then the flip side of this is what are the range of disincentives that are contributing 391 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,000 to this push to kind of sell and get out of that? 392 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Why is it no longer a good business to be in? Because if I think we continue on a slippery slope, if we don't address 393 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,480 sort of 394 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,300 Those forces that are you know these changes used to be in main sense to do it 395 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:16,040 Why is it now not so then is it strictly regular torturer or their other factors? 396 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,060 Contrary that 397 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,200 That's a question that I'd like to know 398 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:49,080 because I can handle other things we could do like on the land use level, or maybe there's other things, you know, I can, we've all heard stories of, you know, people used to ransom while I don't anymore, because you get someone, you know, I can you can't get rid of them, they do damage, et cetera, and so they end up getting out of the business, so, you know, the efforts to try to help one side of this equation can link apart from the other side, which can reduce our overall stock. 399 00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:58,800 Well, I think a lot of what machine was the purchasing of them is that you have a huge 400 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,500 demographic that's landlocked and you know what they can't move from where they are. 401 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:07,100 So they're really kind of, I mean it's a good investment. 402 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,200 That's what a collective communities is the one that bought Hendrix, they bought West 403 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,440 Older, they have lavender meadows because the people can't go anywhere and that's kind 404 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,720 but then they're buying it, and 775, for I know else, if you put down a ticket, look at it, 405 00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:28,600 and I know it's what I'm talking about. It's not a, you know, that you're going to price 406 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,860 everybody out of there. I mean, you know, whether it sells or not, at 775, you're going to lose 407 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:39,500 a majority of people. Because a lot of people don't have a choice. Nope. If they have a, the only 408 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:44,480 thing they own is a single wide mobile that's many years old. Nobody's going, and they certainly 409 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,440 I can't move it. 410 00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:46,040 Right. 411 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:52,600 That's been the issue as they don't have any means to move these things and even place 412 00:32:54,820 --> 00:33:01,240 like the ones that I'm experiencing where we are paying subsidies, the landlords have not 413 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:08,240 maintained the property, and half the time I go in and I say, this is not habitable, so 414 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,180 this person can't stay there anymore, but we don't have an alternative of where to move 415 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:14,940 them out too. I mean, 416 00:33:17,290 --> 00:33:21,270 so we do that in that case. They just stay there. They soon? 417 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:27,490 We've actually moved people out and found different places for them, but it's almost impossible 418 00:33:27,490 --> 00:33:32,670 because you don't have the housing stock here. So it takes us some time to find, you know, 419 00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:39,610 it might take us three months, but we move them out of that space. You know, I've had one 420 00:33:39,610 --> 00:33:46,850 We've done water samples out of the taps and made them clean up their taps. 421 00:33:49,340 --> 00:34:03,360 I mean, the conditions of the mobile parks and the maintenance of the systems and the properties that are there has been very minimal. 422 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,060 They have been the cash cow. 423 00:34:05,060 --> 00:34:10,380 We just shove money in and they don't do any maintenance on on the properties. 424 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,040 So 425 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:19,900 Yeah, they do is what so now I want to go out from my perspective is now 426 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:26,300 They want to sell them because there has not been any maintenance on them and it be to the new buyer 427 00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:33,760 It's because they have to bring them all up to the current standards. It's going to be it's going to be a lift 428 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,000 You know, that's what happened in forks is the one trailer park out there and they'll 429 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,860 wait up. 430 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,900 You know, it had been so bare minimum maintenance on it, everything else, so we're 431 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:48,760 with the new landlord came in there that he had to take it to a thousand holders just 432 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,960 to get the infrastructure. 433 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,240 You know, backing to any kind of shape that was, you know, passing health department. 434 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:57,860 So, to go on. 435 00:34:57,860 --> 00:34:58,760 Thank you very much. 436 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,260 When we're all fingering with our plans, the folks who want to create every and being out of the structured 437 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:16,780 block of land and it's capitalism, it's still profit, it's just that we're getting so many referrals for 438 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:26,500 Mincie and these folks are all getting to create a 50-month and 14, they can't afford seven, seven, five, they can't. 439 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:34,160 I would love to see some kind of a regulation, although that goes over well in our community. 440 00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:42,600 I have seen 40 trailer cords for these modular home areas are designated as being a hand inside 441 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:50,700 and not they can't be used for Airbnb or some kind of creation of a rental where they can get it 442 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:54,460 $300 a night for the places that are renting. 443 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:56,600 You make short-term rental. 444 00:35:57,420 --> 00:35:57,880 Yeah. 445 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,560 Because it's killing our housing in Wom County. 446 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,120 Yeah, throughout the whole country. 447 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,020 So, Tiffany. 448 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,420 Would you do some research for us? 449 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:14,680 And learn what other communities are doing so that we can focus on the solution side of this committee and bring it back to us next month. 450 00:36:15,460 --> 00:36:20,220 I think it's important that they also, at least one of these that we're talking about is within the city of Swim. 451 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:24,460 And then I'm not sure if everything is in the city limits or not. 452 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:31,300 So there might be some things we would do with those families and municipalities. 453 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:34,300 Yeah, it's been looking into another place. 454 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,180 Wait, let me tell you a bit of a second. 455 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:38,140 Let me tell you a bit of a second. 456 00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:39,900 Let me tell you a bit of a second. 457 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,500 If you go back to your question, I think another thing's heard before. 458 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,720 Your thoughts are fine. 459 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Your thoughts are fine. 460 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,460 Your thoughts are fine. 461 00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:55,860 But it's almost like a patient and that's not she needs to do this, using not to all to protect you, but like you, so I didn't stop saying that. 462 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Because it was interesting when, when was looking at the overlay, and that she's not all in here this morning, so I don't know where we were out with it. 463 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,760 But the senior step, we're coming forward and we're not so much. 464 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:21,400 They don't seem so much about the raising of feed, as the fact that they were looking to 465 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,700 they thought that they were looking to drive them out, and then read as well off the property. 466 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,940 That kind of good, I mean, I think it's kind of a little above, because like going to 467 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:38,380 send with idle wheels, you're not going anywhere, you know, with every green. 468 00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:45,440 Those people aren't going anywhere, because you know, what those are, probably 73s, you know, 469 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,140 676 is that you're not putting, you're not moving anywhere. 470 00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:52,280 I mean, if you try to pick them up and move them, then they're all wrong. 471 00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:00,060 So, you know, if, you know, if what they're recognizing is that, you know, trying to maintain 472 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:06,460 existing housing stock, you know, if we could define this broadly is what, you know, one of 473 00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:10,680 most important goals as a community, 474 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:17,920 that we know that as we just been talking about, 475 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:25,920 most people are stuck there and don't really have the choice. We know that there's multiple 476 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:33,560 properties for sale that aren't necessarily moving quickly. Is there any opportunity to 477 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:39,740 do some analysis with any, you know, any local developers to look at our 478 00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:44,200 Bellany kind of public public partnerships that might make sense that we 479 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:52,260 could focus on what you know right now to be at risk. That's right in front of 480 00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:57,640 our face to see if there's some different way to, you know, if there's an 481 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,620 opportunity there is, you know, something like that of a possibility, 482 00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:04,220 is it designed? 483 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,640 Well, you know, thinking out of the boxes, we do have grants coming up for 484 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,060 HTF that are for housing preservation, and we might be able to put a small team of people 485 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:25,140 together and write one of the things that we can figure out, the costs per infrastructure 486 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:33,760 and partner with one of these landlords, and help them, or your landlord. 487 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:42,460 or either way, even if they retain their property, but were able to help them bring it up to 488 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:50,620 standards, so they can take care of some of those extra spots that they can't rent because 489 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:57,740 a lot of the people have trailers that they've purchased, which actually don't fall under anything 490 00:39:57,740 --> 00:39:59,880 I can subsidize. 491 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:13,200 Because if they purchase their trailer and they're renting a lot from Ukraine, I can't do anything with that, because I pay rents. 492 00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:24,660 I don't know, but I mean, I know that we're looking for some potential opportunities for the modular A.D. use. 493 00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:31,080 that the generation has been working on. 494 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:35,100 I don't know if there's enough volume across all of these, 495 00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:39,980 but obviously the vast majority of these trailers are mobile homes 496 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,940 are either past their safe life or will be soon. 497 00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:48,040 We're looking for market opportunities, 498 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,600 it's a bad situation for everybody. 499 00:40:53,040 --> 00:41:15,240 If there's a team that we can fit together or I don't know, if there's a simple to look at working with the development community to figure out what is there any kind of an opportunity and if so, what does that look like and how could public dollars potentially be brought to bear to support maintaining and improving that housing stock? 500 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:19,680 No, potentially expanding the client on a deal like 501 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,480 I feel like there should be something every person. 502 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,840 I also think you're on to something in that if the public is 503 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,320 somehow engaged in investment in that process, the public can then 504 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,880 articulate the requirements for the private order to accept that investment, 505 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,920 which then means you could then limit how you deal with 506 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:49,240 increases, you could deal with, short-term rentals, etc, because that's the boss of getting 507 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:56,100 this public investment. I think you're in more difficult ground if we have a private 508 00:41:56,100 --> 00:42:01,020 entity that's on take private business and then suddenly wants to change their business model. 509 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,880 And then we, the government, expect them to do what they've been doing because that's been 510 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,820 for our benefit and the community's benefit, but they would have, and try to say we can't change 511 00:42:11,820 --> 00:42:18,140 business model. And most we're going to give them some incentive that helps them address those 512 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:24,500 registered tax rate for those because they need to succeed, et cetera. I think the public 513 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:30,820 credit partnership would be a really interesting one to talk about. The other option is, 514 00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:35,300 and this has been talked about 10 or 15 years ago, West, 515 00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:40,140 Pamtee, and I about, you know, whatever 516 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:55,080 If the housing authority or another entity purchases the property and then starts working with the tenants on their replacing units and finding ways to do that 517 00:42:57,710 --> 00:42:59,430 deal with the infrastructure, etc. 518 00:43:00,130 --> 00:43:03,650 It just was one of those things or no one wanted to jump in and do that. 519 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:08,350 and then maybe now, but that work we probably 520 00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:10,430 prior to partnership could be very official, 521 00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:14,550 but maybe kind of spreading the good and the bad to both. 522 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,770 Well, that certainly seems like one potential route to me, 523 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:21,710 and also it seems like a natural to investigate 524 00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:30,550 whether community land trust, it seems like it could be tailor-made, 525 00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:53,550 you know, really to support a community like and address mobile home park, particularly if there's some opportunity over the course of the next 10 years to make investments or overhauls and some of the infrastructure that's there that just seems like it would be a win for everybody and there's 526 00:43:54,950 --> 00:44:00,230 And that's where I say conferences were to notice the opportunity to compete and they were 527 00:44:00,230 --> 00:44:01,990 looking at the community's plan to us. 528 00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:07,390 They were looking at non-profits, local government, local housing authorities, you know, 529 00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:12,690 those sort of public private relations that have to go in on, that's looking back. 530 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:16,570 That was Congress that was talking about this from the opportunity to compete. 531 00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:22,170 And that's probably one of those areas that, you know, if like Sharon was just talking about 532 00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:27,090 looking at how do we go to HTF, how's the trust fund? 533 00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:29,950 And say, this is what we're looking to do. 534 00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:33,030 But we're looking to put this into, you know, 535 00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:38,210 trend, a led trust, as you know, instead of, you know. 536 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:42,230 So how does this group organize over the next couple of months 537 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:48,150 for how does something organize to maybe do a little bit more 538 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:56,130 analysis and, you know, think about, you know, if there's one or more potential alternatives 539 00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:59,710 that seem viable to lay those out. 540 00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:07,580 What next steps might look like so that the figure can discuss whether that's a direction that is worth pursuing or not. 541 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:14,160 And I feel like after this group has done so much work, last couple years trying to figure out a process. 542 00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:18,080 And, you know, really made some substantial initial investment. 543 00:45:19,420 --> 00:45:26,940 And I would like to think it's really a good time right now, just, you know, really sort of focus attention and a slightly different direction. 544 00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:36,020 And this seems like a very timely and important opportunity that if we can figure out a model maybe 545 00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:38,300 and something that can be replicated. 546 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,220 So, I can't think it, but first of all, I don't disagree with that at all. 547 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,220 I think a committee can sit down. 548 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920 I always work in real numbers, which is a terrible thing, right? 549 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:57,080 And I always, when I take a look at public private, I think about the private side, you know, and 550 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,300 whatever the screwp is, we need the private side to be there if you're actually going to look at how we 551 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:08,260 coalesce and come together because I'm trying to think of why I want this private side person. 552 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:13,920 Now, I might invest, but I don't know that a lot of other people would, so that's the whole issue. 553 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,420 You have to expect them to receive a return on investment if they are going to participate. 554 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,000 Great. 555 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,020 They don't expect them not to. 556 00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:26,040 Well, that's the benefit of having a couple of different models. 557 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:28,820 You know, they're going to come back different places to look. 558 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,220 Because maybe one model fits the situation here, maybe it doesn't fit in their officer. 559 00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:36,940 No, no, no. 560 00:46:36,980 --> 00:46:42,020 I can't, again, it's all, I mean, I don't disagree. 561 00:46:42,020 --> 00:46:48,160 I think we all, you and I both said they're in the middle of the little park and the people coming in 562 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,240 who are in fixed income, but raising rates is, you know, the disastrous to them, you know. 563 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,840 But the same token I'm looking at, you know, affordable housing at 80 to 120% 564 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:07,400 who if we don't have any housing for, by the way, and they're in the low income 60% doesn't satisfy that need. 565 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,800 So where does that come from? 566 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:15,300 You know, if there's another issue, I haven't figured out where that, that 80 done and 20% of 567 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:20,300 this county, how we're going to build that, I mean maybe opportunity fund, but other than that, 568 00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:25,320 I don't see any other way, so, you know, so we've got a couple of holes, so I mean it's kind of maybe 569 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:33,360 maybe right, we need to think about, this is one group, this is another group, yeah, and maybe break it apart and 570 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,720 think about it, you know, in discrete little sections. 571 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:43,800 So I guess I really just see these mobile home parks going on for sale as a unique dynamic. 572 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:51,240 You know, there's obviously a lot of turnover and ownership or there is the desire for 573 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,540 some turnover and ownership. 574 00:47:52,900 --> 00:48:00,640 We've seen a really changing dynamic at those parks in terms of the way that their rental fees 575 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:09,380 are increasing and in ways that have been unusual and unexpected and knowing that there are 576 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:18,500 several for sale. To me that just says that that is worth a specific focus. It's only 577 00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:25,580 one piece of overall picture for sure, but it's a really important piece that's easy to overlook 578 00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:27,860 and the opportunity is now right now. 579 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,660 And maybe there won't be a model that makes sense. 580 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:33,960 But there is. 581 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,200 I sure would like to understand whatever it is. 582 00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:37,140 So. 583 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,500 But that group needs to also do the vetting. 584 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:42,480 I mean, I appreciate what Grave's saying. 585 00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,520 If someone's saying, oh, here's the model. 586 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:45,800 And you're going to get 750. 587 00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:48,380 And you're calling me this other lender. 588 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Meadows has 500. 589 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,500 So there's something going on here. 590 00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:54,140 Maybe someone just hope he did. 591 00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:59,000 So find a greater full lot here to go by it, I don't know if it has been, let's say when 592 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,900 you look at Idol Wheels, it's been what's calling Greg, a year now, probably, 593 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,280 at least 594 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,980 six months a year, it's been on the market, if I don't worry about it, yeah, and they started 595 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:18,260 I think I think so. 596 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,020 How has it? 597 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,560 Jones, the South. 598 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,380 Are you going to say something? 599 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:34,100 I was just going to kind of recap if what I heard is correct because it sounded to be like 600 00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:41,120 Mark passed for subcommittee to work on the mobile home park and people that had the public 601 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,240 and private interest and need to volunteer. 602 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:44,600 I heard that too. 603 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,820 Thank you. I did it right now. 604 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,680 You're the committee he's chair right? 605 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,260 I'm inside. 606 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:52,060 That's right. 607 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:52,900 I'm going to be up. 608 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,540 Right. 609 00:49:57,860 --> 00:49:58,680 Thank you. 610 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,220 Oh, right. 611 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,820 Mark? Rod? We need the private sector on that, in a real turn, too, by the way. If you don't mind reaching out, 612 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:21,900 because that input is going to be critical. And there's a couple of local investors that all they do is look at these type of projects. 613 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:29,460 And one used to be a commercial banker, and I think getting him involved would be pretty helpful. 614 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,980 Just be really helpful. 615 00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:32,380 Who was that? 616 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:32,760 Oh, Jesse. 617 00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:33,440 Okay. 618 00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:34,240 Who? 619 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:35,660 Jesse Mom. 620 00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:38,320 If you were to manage to do this. 621 00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:40,000 First discussion with them. 622 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,380 We'll have a couple of discussion with them and he said, 623 00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:45,920 What are you going to hear us in about one of the concerns that she's seeing? 624 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:46,580 Great. 625 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,040 You need someone who's in that argument. 626 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:57,140 Well, I will work with Tim to pull this group together and try and get into the set as it is possible. 627 00:50:58,140 --> 00:51:11,800 I also think there would make sense to invite Kathy Morgan to make sure that there's a community of land trust perspective there and help us understand whether that's an actual opportunity or what I'm making up in my head. 628 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:19,240 Am I right that it's either or it's either the land trust or it's an investor or private investor? 629 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:32,520 Because they both seem to fill the same role, the owners of the real property, not the improvements, and they might rise it out. 630 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,020 So, seems like we go with the private investor, maybe the public portion is doing the infrastructure. 631 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:42,480 Right improvements, potentially. 632 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,780 Very, very good. 633 00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:46,380 Calling that's exactly how I was thinking about it. 634 00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:54,260 Obviously, if it doesn't make sense for private sector, then it would be important to know that. 635 00:51:54,340 --> 00:52:02,960 If it would make sense given some infrastructure investments, then it would be helpful to know that. 636 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:07,000 And if it just absolutely is it going to make sense at all, 637 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:16,700 whether a land trust model might make sense would be helpful to know, and maybe there's other things in between, but thus seem to be a minimum like kind of the two ends of the spectrum. 638 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:27,400 Any investors going to look at what? Conditions are existing to get involved with the project, whether it's a land trust or private. 639 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:43,760 The development is a response to population, and so people jump into the development if they're an opportunity, but the population growth is what creates the demand. 640 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,440 That demand is influenced by regulations which increase risk and cost. 641 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,720 So, as risk and cost increase, 642 00:52:55,860 --> 00:52:59,500 you begin to narrow investors will link to jump into that 643 00:52:59,500 --> 00:52:59,760 in. 644 00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:08,180 And then that risk and cost to replace new things with those added costs and risk brings 645 00:53:08,180 --> 00:53:10,180 the risk of the market up behind it. 646 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,980 So, something that is affordable today, suddenly is worth more because everything that 647 00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:20,940 to do new, gives us sucking notes, and follow up underneath it. 648 00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:30,560 So that regulatory environment is the critical thing, I think, in the big picture that influence us all this. 649 00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:35,290 Yeah, sure is, made a couple of comments. 650 00:53:35,650 --> 00:53:46,430 She has a walk, a RFC Northwest, is a cooperative ownership for the tenants, and she says that 651 00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:53,630 President twice for him in an equity housing cooperatives, so for them to find their kind of 652 00:53:53,630 --> 00:54:01,070 similar what I mean I were talking about with Victoria and Cassie Morgan has volunteered to serve. 653 00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:02,510 I apologize. 654 00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:03,830 Thank you. 655 00:54:03,830 --> 00:54:04,210 Okay. 656 00:54:04,210 --> 00:54:04,750 I apologize. 657 00:54:05,710 --> 00:54:06,430 I apologize. 658 00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:10,110 Okay. 659 00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:12,950 Thank you. 660 00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:13,050 Thank you. 661 00:54:13,110 --> 00:54:14,450 Thank you. 662 00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:16,050 Thank you. 663 00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:16,410 Thank you. 664 00:54:16,410 --> 00:54:20,470 And we'll look forward to hearing more about that in the future. 665 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:23,710 Anything else before we return? 666 00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:25,890 Community. 667 00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:28,390 Anything else? 668 00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:30,050 I know. 669 00:54:31,390 --> 00:54:36,730 So I was asked to give an update on the homeless task force five year plan. 670 00:54:37,690 --> 00:54:42,490 We are in the process of vetting a consultant to help develop. 671 00:54:42,490 --> 00:54:49,850 And that plan is going to dovetail into this plan for the housing. 672 00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:53,850 So we haven't led the contract yet. 673 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:59,150 We have had our first two meetings and set the agenda. 674 00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:02,720 Our due date is October. 675 00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:08,600 We want to discover update. 676 00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:10,180 Kind of update. 677 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,840 Thanks to Ethan. He's catalogued all of our programs that we're working on right now. 678 00:55:16,780 --> 00:55:20,880 We have a few-weir program that started January 1 for building permits for infallousing 679 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,660 and other portable types of housing. 680 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:32,000 And we've currently, as of today, I guess, we have $140,700 and $700 and things. 681 00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:36,430 How many about it? 682 00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:39,090 I'm in a unit. 683 00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:40,250 How many units? 684 00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:43,560 Applications. 685 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,440 Yeah. 686 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,820 14. 687 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:45,820 Some of those, some of those. 688 00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:46,780 It's like what's this? 689 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:57,570 So, do you think that's the difference we're invested in? 690 00:55:58,250 --> 00:56:06,850 I think it is definitely something that it's not exactly like creating, how is it 691 00:56:06,850 --> 00:56:08,610 but it's definitely making housing more achievable. 692 00:56:10,270 --> 00:56:14,250 We have so many programs right now that are going to stack on top of each other that I think 693 00:56:14,250 --> 00:56:16,590 it's starting to really, for starting to see the numbers in the pipeline. 694 00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:19,700 So we're starting 695 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:25,420 to address one of our 696 00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:31,990 corporate plans, our really kicking off two, 697 00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:33,070 we're getting some investors. 698 00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:38,610 And at the sub-dimensional level, interested in putting those on the ground. 699 00:56:39,850 --> 00:56:41,170 So they're picking up their plans. 700 00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:42,690 The city is already approved. 701 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:46,170 So you don't have all the other issues and utilizing those. 702 00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:54,170 Yeah, and we have some investors looking into, we worked with the architect and the engineer for the plans and 703 00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:59,690 you know, ways to make those plans even more affordable to construct. 704 00:57:01,130 --> 00:57:06,910 So, you know, it's just, you know, whether it's the treatments inside or what have you like making it so that it goes from 705 00:57:06,910 --> 00:57:10,310 to $250,000, you know, to $250,000, you know, $250,000, you know, 706 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,860 $250,000. 707 00:57:14,860 --> 00:57:23,930 material, so you can't meet the new code if you don't do, which is cost, it's also stream 708 00:57:23,930 --> 00:57:29,610 going through the new process, which is a bit, that's our real big focus right now. 709 00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:32,090 You know, we have all these programs, how do we make it even easier? 710 00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:34,010 Getting it right all the way 711 00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:37,760 through. 712 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:48,480 We do have more programs in 2022, it's Milwaukee trails that I'm 14th straight, nearly 713 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,140 I'm a little bit scared of my trail out there. 714 00:57:50,140 --> 00:57:53,020 I'm a walking that has terrible 715 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:01,600 houses. 716 00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:07,420 Just seeing the plans that we have, 717 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,100 and those sorts of things, they're like, 718 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:24,430 maybe North Point. 719 00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:33,070 For public comment, any other public comment. 720 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,460 My name's Danny Cyker. 721 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,140 I'm down here. 722 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,220 Just a comment. 723 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,800 The question that you asked, 724 00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:50,240 Commissioner Johnson about is to sneak in a difference. 725 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,600 I think it's really important for us to assess 726 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,340 housing affordability has been a death by a thousand cuts. 727 00:58:56,340 --> 00:59:03,440 right it's not any single thing that's made this so difficult to attain so I do want to give 728 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:08,320 the city credit for this sort of thing but it's going to take a thousand bandage to get 729 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:14,700 this done so please do continue on that those things help regulations anything we can do 730 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:18,720 with that side of things streamlining helps you know the amount of months that things stick 731 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,560 in the process that's huge expenses that just add up so I just encourage thank you for that 732 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,680 And keep pushing. 733 00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:26,060 Thank you. 734 00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:26,800 Thank you. 735 00:59:52,370 --> 00:59:54,050 I'm going to have an ashabag with my interest. 736 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:55,030 Thank you. 737 00:59:55,370 --> 00:59:55,510 Thank you. 738 00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:55,770 Thank you. 739 00:59:58,190 --> 00:59:59,310 That's what I've got. 740 01:00:05,110 --> 01:00:15,810 I will send you a note about why the meeting had it, your portion was that bad.