1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:02,479 Welcome everyone to our meeting tonight 2 00:00:02,479 --> 00:00:06,639 . If there are any additions or 3 00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:13,683 removals to the agenda. We are 4 00:00:13,683 --> 00:00:17,466 scheduled for an executive session 5 00:00:17,466 --> 00:00:26,002 tonight. It's right? And does that 6 00:00:26,002 --> 00:00:30,561 include hiring new employees for the 7 00:00:30,561 --> 00:00:34,296 garage? 8 00:00:34,296 --> 00:00:35,669 It's a discussion about those issues. 9 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:38,580 Discussion. It's a personnel issue, a 10 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:39,136 personnel issue. 11 00:00:39,136 --> 00:00:41,134 Staff. Very good. 12 00:00:41,134 --> 00:00:43,385 Then I would add just two 13 00:00:43,385 --> 00:00:46,491 discussions so that it is on record that we 14 00:00:46,491 --> 00:00:48,289 are having them. 15 00:00:48,289 --> 00:00:49,674 Are you saying there are two different ones? 16 00:00:49,674 --> 00:00:53,861 Yes, that's what I did. Yes. Any other 17 00:00:53,861 --> 00:00:58,311 additions or removals? Okay, 18 00:00:58,311 --> 00:01:04,191 approval of the...there are two minutes. One 19 00:01:04,191 --> 00:01:08,103 is on Monday, September 14 at 4:40 20 00:01:08,103 --> 00:01:12,015 p.m. And the other one is on September 14 at 21 00:01:12,015 --> 00:01:16,219 6:30 p.m. Is there a motion? 22 00:01:16,219 --> 00:01:17,060 I accept the motion. I 23 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:18,686 second. Is 24 00:01:18,686 --> 00:01:21,715 there any other discussion? Okay, since there isn't 25 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:22,996 one, everyone who is in favor 26 00:01:22,996 --> 00:01:25,083 of the motion, please say yes. 27 00:01:25,083 --> 00:01:28,967 Anyone against it? 28 00:01:28,967 --> 00:01:30,999 Highway Commissioner's Report 29 00:01:30,999 --> 00:01:33,421 Just an update. 30 00:01:33,421 --> 00:01:35,912 We finally managed to cut the grass in the entire 31 00:01:35,912 --> 00:01:38,679 town one last time. I don't think there are any 32 00:01:38,679 --> 00:01:40,779 other places that need to be 33 00:01:40,779 --> 00:01:43,321 cut off that I know of at this time. 34 00:01:43,321 --> 00:01:48,200 Finally completed. The grader is 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,627 waiting for some parts for 36 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:51,928 that blade. And they're supposed to 37 00:01:51,928 --> 00:01:54,069 come and fix it on Friday. Once that's 38 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:55,391 fixed, we can begin with the 39 00:01:55,391 --> 00:02:00,074 winter leveling. 40 00:02:00,074 --> 00:02:06,036 We also received two offers for salt. One from 41 00:02:06,036 --> 00:02:10,003 Cargill, one from Avalanchi. Do 42 00:02:10,003 --> 00:02:11,419 we even dare to ask? 43 00:02:11,419 --> 00:02:13,080 Yes. Yes. I 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,739 'm already seated, go ahead. 45 00:02:14,739 --> 00:02:18,933 Well, Cargill only gave us a 46 00:02:18,933 --> 00:02:26,237 price for plain, untreated salt. And that 47 00:02:26,237 --> 00:02:30,736 was $106.50 per ton. They only 48 00:02:30,736 --> 00:02:32,574 considered us for 400 tons. I don't 49 00:02:32,574 --> 00:02:34,259 know why, but usually 50 00:02:34,259 --> 00:02:35,540 we... 51 00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:36,905 If my memory serves me right, that's a 52 00:02:36,905 --> 00:02:38,428 difference of about 10 dollars. I think 53 00:02:38,428 --> 00:02:40,892 last year it was like 96 or 98 around 54 00:02:40,892 --> 00:02:41,460 there. 55 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:43,476 dollars and that will also be reflected 56 00:02:43,476 --> 00:02:44,240 in the other one. 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,500 Good. I 58 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:47,425 would have thought that with 59 00:02:47,425 --> 00:02:48,939 fuel prices it would be much worse. 60 00:02:48,939 --> 00:02:53,782 Mhm. $106. And 50 cents is 61 00:02:53,782 --> 00:02:57,634 Cargill and then Avalanchi came in with 62 00:02:57,634 --> 00:02:59,401 $110.25. It's still 63 00:02:59,401 --> 00:03:00,251 an increase. 64 00:03:00,251 --> 00:03:01,916 For the untreated. So that's 65 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:03,689 comparable to that. So, how much? 66 00:03:03,689 --> 00:03:06,280 $4 or $3.75 more for 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,479 Avalanchi. 68 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,984 And remind me, we've been working 69 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:12,266 with Avalanchi because they're more 70 00:03:12,266 --> 00:03:13,977 reliable and it's been a better product, 71 00:03:13,977 --> 00:03:14,462 right? 72 00:03:14,462 --> 00:03:15,820 Yes, and everything is stored indoors 73 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:17,180 . 74 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:17,819 That's what I thought. 75 00:03:17,819 --> 00:03:20,155 And I mean, I make a call and if 76 00:03:20,155 --> 00:03:22,183 we run out, if I call 77 00:03:22,183 --> 00:03:24,642 early enough in the morning, 78 00:03:24,642 --> 00:03:28,020 Avalanchi will have it here that afternoon. 79 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:30,416 Because the service is amazing. 80 00:03:30,416 --> 00:03:32,540 I usually try to give them that week 81 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:34,555 or so to see what's in the 82 00:03:34,555 --> 00:03:38,219 warehouse and make sure it's enough for us. Um, 83 00:03:38,219 --> 00:03:41,828 then, $110.25 per Avalanchi for 84 00:03:41,828 --> 00:03:44,961 regular salt and $125.50 for 85 00:03:44,961 --> 00:03:48,665 treated salt, which is $15 per ton more 86 00:03:48,665 --> 00:03:54,118 . And that's all relevant, you know, 87 00:03:54,118 --> 00:03:57,383 that increase. 88 00:03:57,383 --> 00:03:59,044 Were we...using treated salt or 89 00:03:59,044 --> 00:04:00,699 treating it ourselves last year? 90 00:04:00,699 --> 00:04:02,281 We opted for the treated one because it was 91 00:04:02,281 --> 00:04:04,240 almost as cheap. 92 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Buy the spray product. 93 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,000 And what we'll do now is buy; 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,377 I want to buy the untreated one at 95 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:18,320 first until it gets cold. 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,399 OK. Yes I understand. 97 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:21,160 Which will be cheaper. 98 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,921 Furthermore, it does not affect...the property of 99 00:04:24,921 --> 00:04:27,620 others. 100 00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:28,544 Mhm. It does 101 00:04:28,544 --> 00:04:30,745 not affect other people's property 102 00:04:30,745 --> 00:04:34,233 when it is not treated. 103 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:36,091 When the ground is frozen it's 104 00:04:36,091 --> 00:04:37,952 different, isn't it? That's when... 105 00:04:37,952 --> 00:04:40,309 Mhm. Well, no, the activation of the 106 00:04:40,309 --> 00:04:45,360 salt and all that is due to the treatment. Alright 107 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,000 . 108 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,394 So I don't know. Do you want to wait? 109 00:04:49,394 --> 00:04:50,131 Present a motion. 110 00:04:50,131 --> 00:04:54,125 I support that now or... 111 00:04:54,125 --> 00:04:56,045 I mean, everything is relevant with... 112 00:04:56,045 --> 00:04:57,087 We need the salt. It's 113 00:04:57,087 --> 00:04:58,585 not going to go down in price. I 114 00:04:58,585 --> 00:05:01,468 assure you of that. Um, I'll introduce the motion 115 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:03,396 to approve Avalanchi as our 116 00:05:03,396 --> 00:05:04,830 salt supplier. I 117 00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:05,210 second the motion. 118 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:06,440 For this year. 119 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,141 Very good. And she is seconded by George. 120 00:05:10,141 --> 00:05:14,180 Any other conversations or comments? 121 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:15,396 Okay, everyone who supports 122 00:05:15,396 --> 00:05:16,820 the motion, please say yes. 123 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:17,423 Aye. 124 00:05:17,423 --> 00:05:19,385 Anyone against it? Cash, do you have anything 125 00:05:19,385 --> 00:05:19,709 else? That's 126 00:05:19,709 --> 00:05:20,726 all I have. 127 00:05:20,726 --> 00:05:22,331 Very well, approval of the 128 00:05:22,331 --> 00:05:24,333 payment orders from the select board. They are 129 00:05:24,333 --> 00:05:26,231 floating and adrift. They're right 130 00:05:26,231 --> 00:05:27,785 here. Up there. So, if 131 00:05:27,785 --> 00:05:29,679 anyone wants to see how we're 132 00:05:29,679 --> 00:05:33,817 spending their taxes. Um, do we have any 133 00:05:33,817 --> 00:05:41,450 guests tonight? Any 134 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:45,615 comments from the audience? Very well, 135 00:05:45,615 --> 00:05:49,346 new topics. Appoint a person 136 00:05:49,346 --> 00:05:53,120 to complete and submit ballots on 137 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,895 behalf of Clarendon Borough for 138 00:05:56,895 --> 00:06:00,767 the appointment of four 139 00:06:00,767 --> 00:06:04,444 PACIF board directors and one 140 00:06:04,444 --> 00:06:09,687 VERB board director. So we're 141 00:06:09,687 --> 00:06:13,259 looking for nominations for that. 142 00:06:13,259 --> 00:06:15,399 This is just the voting process. 143 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:28,905 So, I say, I...I see here. I just 144 00:06:28,905 --> 00:06:38,008 want to see...And for each of them they 145 00:06:38,008 --> 00:06:42,879 only nominated one...so, for... 146 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,970 PACIF they only nominated four and 147 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:48,923 for VERB they only nominated one. So it's 148 00:06:48,923 --> 00:06:51,027 not a contested contest where you 149 00:06:51,027 --> 00:06:53,131 have to try to figure out who's 150 00:06:53,131 --> 00:06:57,339 who. So, um, I will proceed to 151 00:06:57,339 --> 00:07:00,539 introduce a motion to authorize the 152 00:07:00,539 --> 00:07:03,579 secretary to do so on behalf of 153 00:07:03,579 --> 00:07:05,961 the board. I 154 00:07:05,961 --> 00:07:08,321 second the motion. Any 155 00:07:08,321 --> 00:07:08,740 further comments? 156 00:07:08,740 --> 00:07:09,398 Willing. 157 00:07:09,398 --> 00:07:12,302 I agree. 158 00:07:12,302 --> 00:07:13,606 Very well, everyone who is in favor 159 00:07:13,606 --> 00:07:15,560 of the motion, please say yes. 160 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,413 Anyone against it? George, I'm 161 00:07:18,413 --> 00:07:18,789 voting. 162 00:07:18,789 --> 00:07:20,819 Yes, let me see those instructions. 163 00:07:20,819 --> 00:07:22,100 All this for 164 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:22,999 Yes, I have it. 165 00:07:22,999 --> 00:07:25,142 And I know we just authorized you to 166 00:07:25,142 --> 00:07:27,172 do that, George, but I mean, 167 00:07:27,172 --> 00:07:28,980 based on the fact that there are only 168 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:29,519 four of them. 169 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:32,030 The designated people, that is, me. It's 170 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:33,049 not a big deal. 171 00:07:33,049 --> 00:07:34,358 Unless you have a 172 00:07:34,358 --> 00:07:35,906 major objection against someone you know 173 00:07:35,906 --> 00:07:37,414 there, I think what we're doing is very straightforward 174 00:07:37,414 --> 00:07:38,720 . So, I don't 175 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,570 have any. It gives us a small 176 00:07:43,570 --> 00:07:46,846 clue. Uh, a short uh review of 177 00:07:46,846 --> 00:07:48,940 who each one is. 178 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:49,699 Correct. 179 00:07:49,699 --> 00:07:50,720 Yes that's fine. 180 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,293 And they are all, from what I could 181 00:07:52,293 --> 00:07:54,057 quickly see, 182 00:07:54,057 --> 00:07:56,640 municipal officials from other places. So 183 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,819 , yes. Yes that's fine. 184 00:08:00,819 --> 00:08:02,186 Very good. Does 185 00:08:02,186 --> 00:08:04,800 the president have to sign that? 186 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,260 No, we authorize the secretary. 187 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:06,860 Yes, okay. 188 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:08,987 Yes, it's just one person. The secretary 189 00:08:08,987 --> 00:08:10,599 . Yes. They 190 00:08:10,599 --> 00:08:12,559 should probably keep that 191 00:08:12,559 --> 00:08:14,626 signature under lock and key, because you never know 192 00:08:14,626 --> 00:08:19,992 . And while we're at it, Cash, I want to 193 00:08:19,992 --> 00:08:22,624 congratulate you on your report about salt 194 00:08:22,624 --> 00:08:25,189 , because you held back and didn't use 195 00:08:25,189 --> 00:08:29,679 overly salty language. 196 00:08:29,679 --> 00:08:32,520 Thank you, Wesley Pepper. 197 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:39,379 Oh, how much wisdom. Very good. 198 00:08:39,379 --> 00:08:42,459 So, uh, it was proposed and seconded 199 00:08:42,459 --> 00:08:46,196 by... Did anyone second that? It was 200 00:08:46,196 --> 00:08:46,895 me. 201 00:08:46,895 --> 00:08:47,715 Okay, Donnie. 202 00:08:47,715 --> 00:08:48,214 did it. 203 00:08:48,214 --> 00:08:49,414 Very well, everyone who is in favor 204 00:08:49,414 --> 00:08:51,419 of the motion, please say yes. 205 00:08:51,419 --> 00:08:54,757 Anyone against it? Unfinished business, 206 00:08:54,757 --> 00:09:05,313 anything? Very good. Um Kim, is there anything you'd 207 00:09:05,313 --> 00:09:06,540 like to report? I have 208 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:08,559 nothing planned for tonight. 209 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,912 Okay. Are they ready 210 00:09:10,912 --> 00:09:12,080 ? 211 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,419 Yes. 212 00:09:13,419 --> 00:09:16,223 Okay, on behalf of Bob and me, we've been 213 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:19,183 touring the cemeteries, uh, 214 00:09:19,183 --> 00:09:21,972 as we always do. But we have 215 00:09:21,972 --> 00:09:23,431 identified some trees that 216 00:09:23,431 --> 00:09:25,655 need to be cut down. We've had a 217 00:09:25,655 --> 00:09:29,199 few offers. Some have arrived. 218 00:09:29,199 --> 00:09:32,039 I have an offer. I have a 219 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:35,210 Clarence Chipman Hart section. They are 220 00:09:35,210 --> 00:09:37,497 applying for a Volga grant, which will 221 00:09:37,497 --> 00:09:39,726 probably cover everything, or at least should 222 00:09:39,726 --> 00:09:44,120 cover everything we want to do. 223 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,295 We have another tree, a large old linden tree 224 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:49,280 , which is right on the northern line. I 225 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,963 went to see Mike McLellan and Eric and they 226 00:09:51,963 --> 00:09:54,293 told me to do whatever was 227 00:09:54,293 --> 00:09:57,112 necessary. It was shedding branches 228 00:09:57,112 --> 00:09:59,309 last winter, two branches fell this 229 00:09:59,309 --> 00:10:03,548 spring. So, I got a 230 00:10:03,548 --> 00:10:05,341 quote and an offer from 231 00:10:05,341 --> 00:10:08,559 Ben Kersten. Is that Benjamin Kersten? 232 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,111 And well, $1,500 for removing 233 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:14,702 four trees. It comes out and has four 234 00:10:14,702 --> 00:10:19,299 logs that go up. So let's 235 00:10:19,299 --> 00:10:22,183 talk to Heidi. I have 236 00:10:22,183 --> 00:10:25,027 enough funds in our account, so 237 00:10:25,027 --> 00:10:27,445 let's cut down that tree. You ca 238 00:10:27,445 --> 00:10:28,639 n't drive a truck back there 239 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:30,115 , right? So they have to 240 00:10:30,115 --> 00:10:32,128 scale all of that. I do 241 00:10:32,128 --> 00:10:33,588 n't think he owns a truck. 242 00:10:33,588 --> 00:10:34,006 Oh. Do 243 00:10:34,006 --> 00:10:35,854 n't know. He said he's going to lower it with 244 00:10:35,854 --> 00:10:36,296 ropes. 245 00:10:36,296 --> 00:10:37,728 Oh, okay. So, yes, he does 246 00:10:37,728 --> 00:10:38,302 . 247 00:10:38,302 --> 00:10:39,560 He doesn't have a crane truck. I was going 248 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:40,870 to say that I don't think he has a 249 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:41,379 crane. 250 00:10:41,379 --> 00:10:42,900 He climbs. 251 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:45,494 I mean, yeah, you can get back there. You ca 252 00:10:45,494 --> 00:10:48,094 n't go into the back road with 253 00:10:48,094 --> 00:10:50,494 anything big because you can't 254 00:10:50,494 --> 00:10:51,394 turn around, but 255 00:10:51,394 --> 00:10:52,211 unless you 256 00:10:52,211 --> 00:10:54,027 had something you could back up and 257 00:10:54,027 --> 00:10:55,798 reach for, but he says he'll lower 258 00:10:55,798 --> 00:10:57,179 everything with ropes. 259 00:10:57,179 --> 00:10:59,102 Okay, well, that's a good deal 260 00:10:59,102 --> 00:11:01,820 then for that amount of money. 261 00:11:01,820 --> 00:11:04,588 Yes, I mean, and we have a couple of 262 00:11:04,588 --> 00:11:07,356 others, but we can wait with them, 263 00:11:07,356 --> 00:11:09,769 except I'm applying for a 264 00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:12,395 Voca grant and we should be able to 265 00:11:12,395 --> 00:11:15,021 cover the extra work with that, 266 00:11:15,021 --> 00:11:16,500 so. Alright 267 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:20,973 . Thank you for the report. 268 00:11:20,973 --> 00:11:23,280 Anyone else? 269 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,605 Mr. President, if I may, I would 270 00:11:25,605 --> 00:11:27,868 like to congratulate Kevin and Bob 271 00:11:27,868 --> 00:11:29,691 Underhill on the exceptional 272 00:11:29,691 --> 00:11:33,400 presentation they gave to the people. 273 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,174 What was the date again, Kevin? 274 00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:36,269 September 20th. 275 00:11:36,269 --> 00:11:40,888 A very 276 00:11:40,888 --> 00:11:43,327 beautiful ceremony with some young people 277 00:11:43,327 --> 00:11:46,464 involved with music, which 278 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:51,030 made it even more special. It was one of 279 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:52,903 our city's efforts to 280 00:11:52,903 --> 00:11:55,781 celebrate the country's 250th anniversary. 281 00:11:55,781 --> 00:11:56,680 Well done. 282 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:58,540 Yes. It was good. I've 283 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:00,571 only heard positive things. So 284 00:12:00,571 --> 00:12:02,981 , excellent work. Excellent 285 00:12:02,981 --> 00:12:03,499 work. 286 00:12:03,499 --> 00:12:05,457 Gloria, do you have anything? 287 00:12:05,457 --> 00:12:06,961 No. The elections are coming up in 288 00:12:06,961 --> 00:12:07,517 November. 289 00:12:07,517 --> 00:12:08,015 Yes. 290 00:12:08,015 --> 00:12:09,048 They're sending all the ballots 291 00:12:09,048 --> 00:12:10,383 by mail this week. They have until 292 00:12:10,383 --> 00:12:12,617 October 1st. They haven't sent them to 293 00:12:12,617 --> 00:12:13,922 our town yet. 294 00:12:13,922 --> 00:12:15,560 Oh, they haven't sent them yet? 295 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:17,564 I check every day. Let the 296 00:12:17,564 --> 00:12:18,669 post office know they're on their way 297 00:12:18,669 --> 00:12:20,419 . 298 00:12:20,419 --> 00:12:21,800 That will be fun. 299 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,753 But if you can, bring them back. 300 00:12:24,753 --> 00:12:25,849 Yes, don't send them by mail. 301 00:12:25,849 --> 00:12:27,692 Do not return them by mail. If 302 00:12:27,692 --> 00:12:31,429 possible. 303 00:12:31,429 --> 00:12:33,080 Were you signaling to us, Ed? 304 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,581 Oh, when you guys have a moment, 305 00:12:34,581 --> 00:12:36,003 I have some information if you 306 00:12:36,003 --> 00:12:37,140 want it. 307 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:38,219 Okay, go ahead. 308 00:12:38,219 --> 00:12:39,851 Last time we were looking for tires for 309 00:12:39,851 --> 00:12:40,400 the tractor. 310 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,100 Mhm. 311 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:42,764 Oh, yes. They have them 312 00:12:42,764 --> 00:12:44,535 at Pete's. I don't know what 313 00:12:44,535 --> 00:12:48,563 the big problem is. They weren't 18 4 by 314 00:12:48,563 --> 00:12:52,309 24. They were 12 4 by 24. They had one in 315 00:12:52,309 --> 00:12:54,092 stock. They didn't have one for tomorrow 316 00:12:54,092 --> 00:12:56,506 . They cost $635 each at the 317 00:12:56,506 --> 00:12:59,507 town's price. When you load and 318 00:12:59,507 --> 00:13:02,500 assemble them, it's $200 more. 319 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,859 So, they told you that I gave them 320 00:13:03,859 --> 00:13:05,700 the wrong measurement. 321 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:07,301 Oh, okay. So, do they have them 322 00:13:07,301 --> 00:13:07,648 now? 323 00:13:07,648 --> 00:13:08,820 Yes. 324 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:10,020 Okay. I'll 325 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:11,906 add that. I bought two 326 00:13:11,906 --> 00:13:15,219 used tires to get by. 327 00:13:15,219 --> 00:13:17,799 And they cost $100 each. 328 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:20,292 Even Amazon had them. $520 329 00:13:20,292 --> 00:13:21,750 each. But you need to find 330 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:24,590 someone to install them. Just one point of 331 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:28,287 interest about salt. Remember, if 332 00:13:28,287 --> 00:13:31,116 you add water to that salt to reach 333 00:13:31,116 --> 00:13:33,946 23%, it goes from 17° above zero, when 334 00:13:33,946 --> 00:13:36,627 the salt stops working, to 13 below 335 00:13:36,627 --> 00:13:43,550 zero. It lowers the melting point considerably. 336 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:45,386 Mhm. You need to use less salt 337 00:13:45,386 --> 00:13:47,912 . If you use salt and sand, it would be much 338 00:13:47,912 --> 00:13:50,921 better for our water. We already have a 339 00:13:50,921 --> 00:13:52,597 problem here with the water in Clarendon 340 00:13:52,597 --> 00:13:55,051 . That's not it. Did I 341 00:13:55,051 --> 00:13:56,990 make you understand? That worked well, I 342 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:58,240 thought. 343 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,303 Uh, and going on that point, you know, 344 00:14:00,303 --> 00:14:02,662 I mentioned that maybe we should move on 345 00:14:02,662 --> 00:14:04,785 to the next smaller sieve, 346 00:14:04,785 --> 00:14:06,848 a little finer sand like 347 00:14:06,848 --> 00:14:11,119 everyone else does and mix it in. I think 348 00:14:11,119 --> 00:14:11,198 ... 349 00:14:11,198 --> 00:14:12,998 Add water to the sand? Is that what 350 00:14:12,998 --> 00:14:13,464 you mean? 351 00:14:13,464 --> 00:14:15,019 What did you say? 352 00:14:15,019 --> 00:14:16,845 To get the When you add water, 353 00:14:16,845 --> 00:14:17,900 you said. 354 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,500 Add water to our salt. 355 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:20,500 Make brine. 356 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:22,192 and put it together with the 357 00:14:22,192 --> 00:14:22,560 sand. 358 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,095 Yes. Now, when we put tanks in 359 00:14:25,095 --> 00:14:26,863 the sprinklers or spreaders, when 360 00:14:26,863 --> 00:14:29,787 that comes out, it's fine. Two things happen 361 00:14:29,787 --> 00:14:31,932 . It grips the road better 362 00:14:31,932 --> 00:14:33,047 that way. 363 00:14:33,047 --> 00:14:33,347 Yes. 364 00:14:33,347 --> 00:14:35,154 And the grip comes from the sand. 365 00:14:35,154 --> 00:14:36,361 Yes. 366 00:14:36,361 --> 00:14:39,219 This money, every dollar we invest 367 00:14:39,219 --> 00:14:42,006 in that salt, I know we have to have it 368 00:14:42,006 --> 00:14:44,857 . But let's try to reduce it because, 369 00:14:44,857 --> 00:14:46,477 as I said, sooner or later we won't have 370 00:14:46,477 --> 00:14:48,006 drinking water. 371 00:14:48,006 --> 00:14:49,191 Well, I thought it worked pretty 372 00:14:49,191 --> 00:14:50,377 well last year with the 373 00:14:50,377 --> 00:14:51,876 salt and sand mixture. That worked well. We 374 00:14:51,876 --> 00:14:54,049 did it, it worked. We only used it 375 00:14:54,049 --> 00:14:55,099 once or twice. 376 00:14:55,099 --> 00:14:56,879 Mhm. You 377 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,022 get it better alone because the 378 00:14:59,022 --> 00:15:01,256 darkness of the sand with the salt 379 00:15:01,256 --> 00:15:02,113 will help melt 380 00:15:02,113 --> 00:15:03,666 Mother Nature, the sun shines 381 00:15:03,666 --> 00:15:05,398 on that dark sand. It makes salt 382 00:15:05,398 --> 00:15:07,989 work. You know, it's science 383 00:15:07,989 --> 00:15:10,320 you learned in fifth grade. 384 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,891 But I mean, just... And I guess 385 00:15:12,891 --> 00:15:15,599 your new truck will probably arrive 386 00:15:15,599 --> 00:15:18,521 around February, you know. 387 00:15:18,521 --> 00:15:19,827 You thought it was delayed, didn't 388 00:15:19,827 --> 00:15:21,880 you? That's what people believe. They were supposed to 389 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,888 start on 390 00:15:23,888 --> 00:15:26,961 December 1st. Everything was delayed a couple of 391 00:15:26,961 --> 00:15:31,383 months, right? Okay, going back for a 392 00:15:31,383 --> 00:15:34,452 moment to the subject of roads. 393 00:15:34,452 --> 00:15:37,825 Most of those plates that we 394 00:15:37,825 --> 00:15:38,460 ... 395 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:38,942 Yes... 396 00:15:38,942 --> 00:15:40,791 we had a brief conversation, you and 397 00:15:40,791 --> 00:15:43,659 I talked. So we chose the 398 00:15:43,659 --> 00:15:46,360 upgraded ones that we hope will last. They 399 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,680 won't come here to fix that. 400 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,366 Mjm. It 401 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,078 took them...it's going to take them two weeks to 402 00:15:52,078 --> 00:15:53,746 come and repair a half- 403 00:15:53,746 --> 00:15:54,725 million-dollar machine. 404 00:15:54,725 --> 00:15:56,719 No, they're coming on Friday. 405 00:15:56,719 --> 00:15:58,080 That's what they said on Friday. 406 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,662 Yes, and it broke last week. 407 00:15:59,662 --> 00:16:00,600 They said two weeks. 408 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,859 I had to help them. There will 409 00:16:02,859 --> 00:16:04,160 be one. There is one 410 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,257 , and I was finally able to contact 411 00:16:08,257 --> 00:16:11,425 Ryan this morning. He finally 412 00:16:11,425 --> 00:16:14,508 called me back. What happened is that they have 413 00:16:14,508 --> 00:16:16,462 these centers where women 414 00:16:16,462 --> 00:16:20,438 answer all the calls and stuff. And 415 00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:22,372 it was...he said he apologized and that there was 416 00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:24,058 a direct communication problem 417 00:16:24,058 --> 00:16:26,910 in the matter. 418 00:16:26,910 --> 00:16:28,560 But the parts have been ordered and 419 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,799 will arrive then. Good. OK. 420 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,468 And yes...it's assumed he already received the 421 00:16:33,468 --> 00:16:37,491 pieces in Richmond. They're 422 00:16:37,491 --> 00:16:40,450 scheduled to come on Friday and we're going to install them, 423 00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:42,818 and we also want our 424 00:16:42,818 --> 00:16:45,777 mechanic to show us the turnstile 425 00:16:45,777 --> 00:16:47,819 where the blade rotates. 426 00:16:47,819 --> 00:16:48,180 Yes. 427 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:50,863 Because there are fittings there, about how to 428 00:16:50,863 --> 00:16:55,956 actually adjust those fittings. So you don't have to 429 00:16:55,956 --> 00:16:57,700 call a mechanic to 430 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:00,062 come and do it every time. If we know 431 00:17:00,062 --> 00:17:01,163 how to do it. 432 00:17:01,163 --> 00:17:03,042 What are you doing with 433 00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:05,130 brine production again this year 434 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:05,599 ? We haven't 435 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,482 done it. I mean, we're not 436 00:17:08,482 --> 00:17:11,519 ready for that. 437 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:13,029 I'd just say that someone owns 438 00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:16,535 that dealership up there. And if it's 439 00:17:16,535 --> 00:17:17,956 a call center problem, 440 00:17:17,956 --> 00:17:19,258 find out who owns the 441 00:17:19,258 --> 00:17:20,836 dealership and I bet they'll get it 442 00:17:20,836 --> 00:17:24,969 working for $500,000. Because they do 443 00:17:24,969 --> 00:17:26,611 n't want that to be known among the 444 00:17:26,611 --> 00:17:28,042 people when you talk about it. 445 00:17:28,042 --> 00:17:29,625 I had a good conversation with two 446 00:17:29,625 --> 00:17:30,196 different people. 447 00:17:30,196 --> 00:17:31,190 For the... Oh, you mean the 448 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:31,622 grader? 449 00:17:31,622 --> 00:17:32,433 On the grader. 450 00:17:32,433 --> 00:17:34,451 Lastly, did we ever load those 451 00:17:34,451 --> 00:17:37,950 tires? I 452 00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:40,031 think so. There are two...the grader 453 00:17:40,031 --> 00:17:40,615 has...it has 454 00:17:40,615 --> 00:17:41,845 n't had its tires loaded. 455 00:17:41,845 --> 00:17:43,506 The front ones are loaded because 456 00:17:43,506 --> 00:17:45,168 the dealer recommended not loading 457 00:17:45,168 --> 00:17:46,611 the rear ones and we only loaded the 458 00:17:46,611 --> 00:17:47,630 front ones, right? 459 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:49,740 Correct. Why is that? 460 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:52,758 the torque risk was going to be a 461 00:17:52,758 --> 00:17:56,620 bigger problem on the front table. 462 00:17:56,620 --> 00:17:58,363 When that grader was built, it 463 00:17:58,363 --> 00:18:00,200 was designed with the compactor at the 464 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,657 rear. That compactor 465 00:18:02,657 --> 00:18:04,266 probably weighed half as much as the 466 00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:06,361 tandem dump truck. It was made 467 00:18:06,361 --> 00:18:07,993 to lower, release 468 00:18:07,993 --> 00:18:10,375 hydraulically, compacted road. 469 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,281 You load the tires, where's 470 00:18:12,281 --> 00:18:14,146 the weight? Let's think about this. Where 471 00:18:14,146 --> 00:18:17,045 's the weight? The weight is only in 472 00:18:17,045 --> 00:18:19,284 the tires. It's not in the 473 00:18:19,284 --> 00:18:21,914 machine. It has nothing to do with 474 00:18:21,914 --> 00:18:24,481 torque. I mean, I 475 00:18:24,581 --> 00:18:26,318 've checked. I asked. 476 00:18:26,318 --> 00:18:28,322 The board is only basing its decision on what the 477 00:18:28,322 --> 00:18:30,485 distributor supposedly told us. 478 00:18:30,485 --> 00:18:32,042 Everyone around us has 479 00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:33,641 had the same problem with the same 480 00:18:33,641 --> 00:18:36,091 brand of graders. They are loading 481 00:18:36,091 --> 00:18:39,258 tires. If you want it to dig to 482 00:18:39,258 --> 00:18:40,974 remove the potholes, you have to put 483 00:18:40,974 --> 00:18:42,842 weight on it. It doesn't even do what the 484 00:18:42,842 --> 00:18:45,279 old, worn-out one used to do. 485 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:46,893 The old one was a much 486 00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:49,620 heavier machine. In other words, it had steel. 487 00:18:49,620 --> 00:18:52,641 TRUE. Yes, much smaller 488 00:18:52,641 --> 00:18:54,580 too. 489 00:18:54,580 --> 00:18:56,200 Half the weight. 490 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,039 A question. 491 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:00,502 Carol Austin, speaking of potholes, I 492 00:19:00,502 --> 00:19:03,966 wonder if the board could tell me 493 00:19:03,966 --> 00:19:07,430 why we haven't leveled 494 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:11,219 Quarterline Road all summer. 495 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:15,126 Yes, it has leveled out. There has been 496 00:19:15,126 --> 00:19:16,672 spot leveling where the 497 00:19:16,672 --> 00:19:20,859 holes were. 498 00:19:20,859 --> 00:19:22,823 Could someone perhaps meet 499 00:19:22,823 --> 00:19:25,912 me? Maybe all of you for 500 00:19:25,912 --> 00:19:29,979 a walk along Quarterline Road? 501 00:19:30,084 --> 00:19:32,145 Is this, is this beyond your house 502 00:19:32,145 --> 00:19:33,960 towards the...? 503 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,305 It's the entire Quarterline. 504 00:19:36,305 --> 00:19:37,800 From the ball field? 505 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,260 Yes, the hill is wrong again. They 506 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:42,307 have it on all their 507 00:19:42,307 --> 00:19:44,174 dirt roads because, number one, we don't 508 00:19:44,174 --> 00:19:47,126 level them enough. You know, 509 00:19:47,126 --> 00:19:48,865 I learned about grading from Carl 510 00:19:48,865 --> 00:19:50,703 Lamphere, who was probably the 511 00:19:50,703 --> 00:19:52,392 best man who ever operated a 512 00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:55,041 grader. And he told my brother 513 00:19:55,041 --> 00:19:56,505 and me, "You have to level your 514 00:19:56,505 --> 00:19:58,235 paths approximately every 6 weeks 515 00:19:58,235 --> 00:20:02,023 ." "Just something automatic." And sometimes 516 00:20:02,023 --> 00:20:03,854 you have to level them, wait two 517 00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:05,843 days, wait two weeks and level them 518 00:20:05,843 --> 00:20:07,831 again, because if you have too many 519 00:20:07,831 --> 00:20:09,924 bumps, you're not going to remove them, you're going to leave 520 00:20:09,924 --> 00:20:12,824 something there. If you can't get it to 521 00:20:12,824 --> 00:20:14,548 compact again, it will 522 00:20:14,548 --> 00:20:16,804 reappear. Just like when Cash came by 523 00:20:16,804 --> 00:20:18,732 today with a front-end loader and put down some 524 00:20:18,732 --> 00:20:20,660 free material, which had 525 00:20:20,660 --> 00:20:22,588 softball-sized rocks 526 00:20:22,588 --> 00:20:24,830 that are still in the way. And 527 00:20:24,830 --> 00:20:26,951 when we had just passed by, half of them had already 528 00:20:26,951 --> 00:20:29,017 been taken away by the cars that 529 00:20:29,017 --> 00:20:30,915 passed by because they are things that are 530 00:20:30,915 --> 00:20:33,919 too big. But neither here nor 531 00:20:33,919 --> 00:20:37,152 there. The problem is that the roads are 532 00:20:37,152 --> 00:20:39,606 not level enough. The 533 00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:41,310 grader needs to be on those 534 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:44,593 roads. And you have the washings from which 535 00:20:44,593 --> 00:20:46,722 these deluges, rains, come, which 536 00:20:46,722 --> 00:20:48,851 none of us can avoid, and 537 00:20:48,851 --> 00:20:52,175 everything else. But if 538 00:20:52,175 --> 00:20:53,891 gullies form and you don't address them 539 00:20:53,891 --> 00:20:55,884 immediately to eliminate them, the water 540 00:20:55,884 --> 00:20:58,043 simply continues to flow down the path 541 00:20:58,043 --> 00:21:00,670 . The trenches never form; We have 542 00:21:00,670 --> 00:21:03,066 some large, beautiful ditches where 543 00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:05,592 a car can fit, but the water never reaches 544 00:21:05,592 --> 00:21:08,839 them because it doesn't flow down there. 545 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:09,880 Mr. President. 546 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Mhm. 547 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,240 I would like to thank Jim and Ed for their 548 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,899 continued interest in our journeys. 549 00:21:19,899 --> 00:21:21,824 I think it's important for people to 550 00:21:21,824 --> 00:21:25,245 express themselves. I think that in the future we 551 00:21:25,245 --> 00:21:27,521 may have to include it on the agenda, 552 00:21:27,521 --> 00:21:29,570 following the protocol we have, 553 00:21:29,570 --> 00:21:31,504 given the amount of debate that has 554 00:21:31,504 --> 00:21:33,719 arisen. 555 00:21:33,719 --> 00:21:35,799 One thing leads to another, but we must 556 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:37,826 decide whether to add ballast to those tires 557 00:21:37,826 --> 00:21:39,693 if we want that motor grader 558 00:21:39,693 --> 00:21:43,646 to reach its full potential. Just 559 00:21:43,646 --> 00:21:45,660 think about it. If that machine is 560 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:48,000 designed to carry a compactor 561 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,466 on the back, I bet it weighs about 10,000 562 00:21:50,466 --> 00:21:53,186 pounds. What are 3,000 or 4,000 pounds 563 00:21:53,186 --> 00:21:55,200 of ballast compared to what 564 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,659 the tires will do to that machine? 565 00:21:58,659 --> 00:22:01,799 Think about it carefully. I mean, if 566 00:22:01,799 --> 00:22:03,351 they want that motor grader to work 567 00:22:03,351 --> 00:22:10,429 properly. It's a beautiful machine. 568 00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:13,190 What can be done? Can they take care 569 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:15,540 of adding ballast to those tires? 570 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:18,802 Yes, I already did it. But the distributor 571 00:22:18,802 --> 00:22:22,279 recommended against it. Although I understand about 572 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,680 the warranty and things like that. I was going 573 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,490 to say that the other question I would have 574 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:29,350 regarding this is the issue of the 575 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:32,156 warranty. Because it's still under 576 00:22:32,156 --> 00:22:36,999 warranty. So, figuring it out... 577 00:22:36,999 --> 00:22:37,940 Mhm. 578 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:41,598 All of that. And yes, can you put in 579 00:22:41,598 --> 00:22:44,300 writing in an email whether 580 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,994 we would still be covered? Would we be... 581 00:22:46,994 --> 00:22:47,130 ? 582 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:47,999 The implications of that. 583 00:22:47,999 --> 00:22:50,572 Yes, because I know that... We 584 00:22:50,572 --> 00:22:51,667 will request it in writing. We'll 585 00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:53,129 follow up on that this week. Are 586 00:22:53,129 --> 00:22:54,048 you okay, Cash? 587 00:22:54,048 --> 00:22:54,864 Oh, yes, definitely. 588 00:22:54,864 --> 00:22:57,360 And we'll see if we can achieve something... 589 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,368 That's the best thing, that's the best step to 590 00:22:59,368 --> 00:23:00,599 take. 591 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,970 And then move forward. 592 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:06,177 Yes, the compactor you're talking about, the one in the 593 00:23:06,177 --> 00:23:08,959 back. It's a roller, right? 594 00:23:08,959 --> 00:23:11,442 Yes, I'd say without counting... 595 00:23:11,442 --> 00:23:12,844 like a vibrating roller that 596 00:23:12,844 --> 00:23:15,167 attaches to the rear? Does it just roll 597 00:23:15,167 --> 00:23:16,193 as dead weight? 598 00:23:16,193 --> 00:23:17,723 Flat wheels only. Do you remember the 599 00:23:17,723 --> 00:23:18,866 old compactors they used on 600 00:23:18,866 --> 00:23:19,162 them? 601 00:23:19,162 --> 00:23:20,060 Yes. Yes. 602 00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:22,300 Basically the same idea. It's just 603 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:23,810 deadlift. It's designed to go 604 00:23:23,810 --> 00:23:25,277 behind the machine when you do the 605 00:23:25,277 --> 00:23:25,867 final pass. 606 00:23:25,867 --> 00:23:27,249 Which, in my opinion, seems 607 00:23:27,249 --> 00:23:28,744 important. Instead of leaving it up there 608 00:23:28,744 --> 00:23:29,460 dancing. 609 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:31,704 Absolutely. Because Berlin, or what the 610 00:23:31,704 --> 00:23:33,920 heck is the name of that other town 611 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,352 near Montpelier? They have 612 00:23:36,352 --> 00:23:36,695 one. 613 00:23:36,695 --> 00:23:38,023 Sweep. Sweep. 614 00:23:38,023 --> 00:23:39,123 They have one on the back of 615 00:23:39,123 --> 00:23:40,108 theirs and that's where I saw them for the 616 00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:42,092 first time. So I made a couple of 617 00:23:42,092 --> 00:23:44,242 calls and found out why the machine was 618 00:23:44,242 --> 00:23:46,179 built to carry that. 619 00:23:46,179 --> 00:23:47,460 Mjm. 620 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,679 You know, which makes perfect sense 621 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:50,474 because... 622 00:23:50,474 --> 00:23:52,913 was that attached then? To the 623 00:23:52,913 --> 00:23:53,220 back? It 624 00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:54,469 goes in the back. 625 00:23:54,469 --> 00:23:55,249 Like a trailer? 626 00:23:55,249 --> 00:23:57,890 It's as fixed as a snowplow. And it goes up 627 00:23:57,890 --> 00:24:00,257 and down with hydraulic cylinders. 628 00:24:00,257 --> 00:24:01,476 You can control it directly from 629 00:24:01,476 --> 00:24:02,793 the cabin. So when you're 630 00:24:02,793 --> 00:24:04,647 leveling, it's up. It's like having 631 00:24:04,647 --> 00:24:06,119 a spare axle on a truck. You don't 632 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,458 want it low because you'll lose 633 00:24:07,458 --> 00:24:08,581 traction. You 634 00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:10,780 lower it on the last pass. 635 00:24:10,780 --> 00:24:13,019 But when you look at that from the 636 00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:15,137 center point, for every inch from the 637 00:24:15,137 --> 00:24:17,135 center of the drive axles, that 638 00:24:17,135 --> 00:24:19,434 probably adds a ton per 639 00:24:19,434 --> 00:24:21,734 inch with the weight transfer, 640 00:24:21,734 --> 00:24:26,706 you know? So like I said, loading 641 00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:28,366 those tires isn't going to hurt 642 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:30,738 anything. Use beet juice, not chloride, 643 00:24:30,738 --> 00:24:32,559 so nothing rots. It won't 644 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,589 affect the torque at all. It will just give you 645 00:24:35,589 --> 00:24:38,686 more traction on that tire. The 646 00:24:38,686 --> 00:24:40,289 only place you'll see that weight is 647 00:24:40,289 --> 00:24:42,419 when you weigh the entire machine. 648 00:24:42,419 --> 00:24:44,220 And that's what I think the 649 00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:46,279 distributor was referring to, as I 650 00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:48,530 understand it, is that by putting that 651 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:50,911 extra weight on the tire, you're pushing more 652 00:24:50,911 --> 00:24:53,291 towards the ground, so to speak, and 653 00:24:53,291 --> 00:24:55,285 they're worried that something between the 654 00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:57,151 tire and the 655 00:24:57,151 --> 00:25:00,398 drive gear might break in there. That's right 656 00:25:00,398 --> 00:25:02,684 , that's how I understood it. And 657 00:25:02,684 --> 00:25:04,616 you know, you put weight on that tire, 658 00:25:04,616 --> 00:25:07,080 press hard, it's not going to slip. 659 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,500 I suppose you know what I mean. 660 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,301 From that point of view, I suppose 661 00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:13,008 the blade is already broken because the 662 00:25:13,008 --> 00:25:14,762 solution is some permanent bushings 663 00:25:14,762 --> 00:25:17,355 that go there. Why on earth didn't 664 00:25:17,355 --> 00:25:18,621 they build a half- 665 00:25:18,621 --> 00:25:20,033 million-dollar machine with something that wouldn't 666 00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:20,800 break? 667 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,599 Exact. 668 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,669 Well, I think that's the question about it 669 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:25,007 . 670 00:25:25,007 --> 00:25:26,096 things that I would be 671 00:25:26,096 --> 00:25:27,502 emphasizing a lot. Especially 672 00:25:27,502 --> 00:25:28,638 knowing who owns that 673 00:25:28,638 --> 00:25:30,222 dealership up there. Saying that 674 00:25:30,222 --> 00:25:31,750 a machine was stopped for two weeks, 675 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:34,562 that's not right. It's not what we 676 00:25:34,562 --> 00:25:41,661 paid for. 677 00:25:41,661 --> 00:25:43,781 What are your thoughts, final comment? 678 00:25:43,781 --> 00:25:44,440 Looking 679 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,180 again, I'll get it. I 680 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:47,600 could deal with it. Get in 681 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,344 writing what they suggest 682 00:25:49,344 --> 00:25:51,041 so we can have it and proceed 683 00:25:51,041 --> 00:25:53,980 from there. I mean, like I said, I'll have 684 00:25:53,980 --> 00:25:55,503 the vendor come and meet 685 00:25:55,503 --> 00:25:56,948 with a couple of members of the 686 00:25:56,948 --> 00:25:59,745 software team. And that they send an 687 00:25:59,745 --> 00:26:01,169 email or something like that. 688 00:26:01,169 --> 00:26:02,400 It's a shame we've lost 689 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,915 ground. We thought we had a 690 00:26:03,915 --> 00:26:07,462 new one, but we lost ground. Think about it, 691 00:26:07,462 --> 00:26:08,820 I guess we should have gotten that 692 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:14,180 old contraption working again. 693 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:16,456 Well, maybe we should have some 694 00:26:16,456 --> 00:26:18,619 kind of workshop where we invite Ed and 695 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:20,838 Jim to share all their ideas with us 696 00:26:20,838 --> 00:26:25,306 . That, you know, might be more 697 00:26:25,306 --> 00:26:28,678 beneficial if it were done at the end or in the 698 00:26:28,678 --> 00:26:32,459 middle of a board meeting. It's 699 00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:34,790 , you know, if you want to bring a 700 00:26:34,790 --> 00:26:37,122 motion for that, George, it's up to you 701 00:26:37,122 --> 00:26:39,059 , but I think so, 702 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,229 in the short term. It's just 703 00:26:40,229 --> 00:26:41,249 a suggestion. 704 00:26:41,249 --> 00:26:44,023 If you meet with Kim and get some 705 00:26:44,023 --> 00:26:46,944 information, I'd like to see it in 706 00:26:46,944 --> 00:26:49,220 writing. 707 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:51,520 OK. That's how we have it. 708 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,213 No, I mean, that's why I think they 709 00:26:53,213 --> 00:26:55,100 should be able to put it in writing if 710 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,746 there is one, you know, the 711 00:26:56,746 --> 00:26:59,543 main question is, does it affect the warranty? And 712 00:26:59,543 --> 00:27:02,063 the second one should be a 713 00:27:02,063 --> 00:27:04,554 fairly direct, quick, and simple answer. 714 00:27:04,554 --> 00:27:05,373 That's what you'd think. 715 00:27:05,373 --> 00:27:07,595 That shouldn't be difficult. We're 716 00:27:07,595 --> 00:27:09,586 talking about something simple, it should be. It's 717 00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:10,480 interesting because it's 718 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,332 brief and direct. 719 00:27:11,332 --> 00:27:12,834 I spoke with two different towns and 720 00:27:12,834 --> 00:27:15,249 got almost the same grader. Very 721 00:27:15,249 --> 00:27:17,879 similar. I mean, 722 00:27:17,879 --> 00:27:20,066 different sizes or whatever, and they say to 723 00:27:20,066 --> 00:27:22,491 load the front, that's all. Did 724 00:27:22,491 --> 00:27:23,739 they carry the front line? 725 00:27:23,739 --> 00:27:25,480 That's how it is. 726 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,599 Good. Well. I mean, simply. 727 00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,720 But don't forget you have a 728 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,842 14-foot blade there, which was dragging 729 00:27:33,842 --> 00:27:37,279 material. Correct. Push that out of the 730 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,756 way and you'll lift something, maybe it will 731 00:27:38,756 --> 00:27:40,155 require a couple more passes 732 00:27:40,155 --> 00:27:42,659 to achieve it. 733 00:27:42,659 --> 00:27:44,950 Well, as I said, we can get it 734 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:47,221 in writing and start from there. 735 00:27:47,221 --> 00:27:48,040 Oh, definitely. 736 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,559 That's the starting point. 737 00:27:52,559 --> 00:28:02,020 Very good. Anything else, anyone? Um. 738 00:28:02,020 --> 00:28:06,859 I think that. Let's move on to the topics of the 739 00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:09,627 select board and then we'll get into 740 00:28:09,627 --> 00:28:13,576 some executive sessions. Do you have 741 00:28:13,576 --> 00:28:15,360 any other concerns, Cash? 742 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,504 No, I'm ready. 743 00:28:16,504 --> 00:28:17,440 George? 744 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,900 I'm ready for now. 745 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:21,540 Well. 746 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,372 Cash, the only thing I was going to 747 00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:24,923 follow up on is that I know that at the 748 00:28:24,923 --> 00:28:26,755 last meeting you mentioned a couple of 749 00:28:26,755 --> 00:28:28,588 roads that don't receive state aid and 750 00:28:28,588 --> 00:28:30,468 asked someone about line marking 751 00:28:30,468 --> 00:28:31,971 . I was wondering if we had 752 00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:32,833 any updates. They've been 753 00:28:32,833 --> 00:28:34,104 busy paving. 754 00:28:34,104 --> 00:28:35,423 Yes, so nothing yet. 755 00:28:35,423 --> 00:28:37,449 Yes. 756 00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:39,499 Donny? 757 00:28:39,499 --> 00:28:41,041 Nothing that comes to mind, Mr. 758 00:28:41,041 --> 00:28:43,154 President. I had something in mind but I 759 00:28:43,154 --> 00:28:44,527 forgot it, so it wasn't that 760 00:28:44,527 --> 00:28:45,178 important. It could 761 00:28:45,178 --> 00:28:46,424 n't have been that important. It 762 00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:47,934 wasn't that important. Are you going to 763 00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:48,560 write it down? I know I should have written it 764 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280 down. 765 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Things that come with age. 766 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,039 So, how old are you turning, Don? I'm turning 767 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,440 60 this year. 768 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,580 My God, you're still a young man. 769 00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:00,880 Yes. 770 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,731 No, I have no comment, George. I just 771 00:29:04,731 --> 00:29:06,020 turned 79. 772 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:07,802 Um, so, Mr. President, 773 00:29:07,802 --> 00:29:09,585 I propose we go into 774 00:29:09,585 --> 00:29:11,584 executive session tonight, with no 775 00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:13,636 time limit, because we have quite a lot 776 00:29:13,636 --> 00:29:17,443 to discuss. Um, and two 777 00:29:17,443 --> 00:29:23,010 different staff discussions. And I think 778 00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:25,027 we'll start, um, just so the public 779 00:29:25,027 --> 00:29:26,722 knows what we're doing. Uh, 780 00:29:26,722 --> 00:29:27,714 we're having a discussion with the 781 00:29:27,714 --> 00:29:28,805 city clerk, I think, to 782 00:29:28,805 --> 00:29:31,718 begin with. And then we have, uh, more 783 00:29:31,718 --> 00:29:34,872 deliberations. Um, people have been 784 00:29:34,872 --> 00:29:36,899 looking at the posts. We have been 785 00:29:36,899 --> 00:29:38,304 interviewing a member of the 786 00:29:38,304 --> 00:29:40,429 road maintenance team. Um, so 787 00:29:40,429 --> 00:29:42,425 we'll continue those discussions 788 00:29:42,425 --> 00:29:44,322 tonight after we've conducted two 789 00:29:44,322 --> 00:29:45,699 rounds of interviews. 790 00:29:45,699 --> 00:29:47,621 Yes. Then. 791 00:29:47,621 --> 00:29:48,661 Is that a motion? 792 00:29:48,661 --> 00:29:49,807 That is a motion to enter into 793 00:29:49,807 --> 00:29:51,847 executive session. 794 00:29:51,847 --> 00:29:54,050 Any comments? All those who 795 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,290 support the motion, please say 796 00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:56,516 yes. 797 00:29:56,516 --> 00:29:58,380 Anyone against it?