[0:00] Welcome everyone to our meeting tonight
[0:02] . If there are any additions or
[0:06] removals to the agenda. We are
[0:13] scheduled for an executive session
[0:17] tonight. It's right? And does that
[0:26] include hiring new employees for the
[0:30] garage?
[0:34] It's a discussion about those issues.
[0:35] Discussion. It's a personnel issue, a
[0:38] personnel issue.
[0:39] Staff. Very good.
[0:41] Then I would add just two
[0:43] discussions so that it is on record that we
[0:46] are having them.
[0:48] Are you saying there are two different ones?
[0:49] Yes, that's what I did. Yes. Any other
[0:53] additions or removals? Okay,
[0:58] approval of the...there are two minutes. One
[1:04] is on Monday, September 14 at 4:40
[1:08] p.m. And the other one is on September 14 at
[1:12] 6:30 p.m. Is there a motion?
[1:16] I accept the motion. I
[1:17] second. Is
[1:18] there any other discussion? Okay, since there isn't
[1:21] one, everyone who is in favor
[1:22] of the motion, please say yes.
[1:25] Anyone against it?
[1:28] Highway Commissioner's Report
[1:30] Just an update.
[1:33] We finally managed to cut the grass in the entire
[1:35] town one last time. I don't think there are any
[1:38] other places that need to be
[1:40] cut off that I know of at this time.
[1:43] Finally completed. The grader is
[1:48] waiting for some parts for
[1:49] that blade. And they're supposed to
[1:51] come and fix it on Friday. Once that's
[1:54] fixed, we can begin with the
[1:55] winter leveling.
[2:00] We also received two offers for salt. One from
[2:06] Cargill, one from Avalanchi. Do
[2:10] we even dare to ask?
[2:11] Yes. Yes. I
[2:13] 'm already seated, go ahead.
[2:14] Well, Cargill only gave us a
[2:18] price for plain, untreated salt. And that
[2:26] was $106.50 per ton. They only
[2:30] considered us for 400 tons. I don't
[2:32] know why, but usually
[2:34] we...
[2:35] If my memory serves me right, that's a
[2:36] difference of about 10 dollars. I think
[2:38] last year it was like 96 or 98 around
[2:40] there.
[2:41] dollars and that will also be reflected
[2:43] in the other one.
[2:44] Good. I
[2:46] would have thought that with
[2:47] fuel prices it would be much worse.
[2:48] Mhm. $106. And 50 cents is
[2:53] Cargill and then Avalanchi came in with
[2:57] $110.25. It's still
[2:59] an increase.
[3:00] For the untreated. So that's
[3:01] comparable to that. So, how much?
[3:03] $4 or $3.75 more for
[3:06] Avalanchi.
[3:07] And remind me, we've been working
[3:10] with Avalanchi because they're more
[3:12] reliable and it's been a better product,
[3:13] right?
[3:14] Yes, and everything is stored indoors
[3:15] .
[3:17] That's what I thought.
[3:17] And I mean, I make a call and if
[3:20] we run out, if I call
[3:22] early enough in the morning,
[3:24] Avalanchi will have it here that afternoon.
[3:28] Because the service is amazing.
[3:30] I usually try to give them that week
[3:32] or so to see what's in the
[3:34] warehouse and make sure it's enough for us. Um,
[3:38] then, $110.25 per Avalanchi for
[3:41] regular salt and $125.50 for
[3:44] treated salt, which is $15 per ton more
[3:48] . And that's all relevant, you know,
[3:54] that increase.
[3:57] Were we...using treated salt or
[3:59] treating it ourselves last year?
[4:00] We opted for the treated one because it was
[4:02] almost as cheap.
[4:04] Buy the spray product.
[4:07] And what we'll do now is buy;
[4:10] I want to buy the untreated one at
[4:12] first until it gets cold.
[4:18] OK. Yes I understand.
[4:19] Which will be cheaper.
[4:21] Furthermore, it does not affect...the property of
[4:24] others.
[4:27] Mhm. It does
[4:28] not affect other people's property
[4:30] when it is not treated.
[4:34] When the ground is frozen it's
[4:36] different, isn't it? That's when...
[4:37] Mhm. Well, no, the activation of the
[4:40] salt and all that is due to the treatment. Alright
[4:45] .
[4:46] So I don't know. Do you want to wait?
[4:49] Present a motion.
[4:50] I support that now or...
[4:54] I mean, everything is relevant with...
[4:56] We need the salt. It's
[4:57] not going to go down in price. I
[4:58] assure you of that. Um, I'll introduce the motion
[5:01] to approve Avalanchi as our
[5:03] salt supplier. I
[5:04] second the motion.
[5:05] For this year.
[5:06] Very good. And she is seconded by George.
[5:10] Any other conversations or comments?
[5:14] Okay, everyone who supports
[5:15] the motion, please say yes.
[5:16] Aye.
[5:17] Anyone against it? Cash, do you have anything
[5:19] else? That's
[5:19] all I have.
[5:20] Very well, approval of the
[5:22] payment orders from the select board. They are
[5:24] floating and adrift. They're right
[5:26] here. Up there. So, if
[5:27] anyone wants to see how we're
[5:29] spending their taxes. Um, do we have any
[5:33] guests tonight? Any
[5:41] comments from the audience? Very well,
[5:45] new topics. Appoint a person
[5:49] to complete and submit ballots on
[5:53] behalf of Clarendon Borough for
[5:56] the appointment of four
[6:00] PACIF board directors and one
[6:04] VERB board director. So we're
[6:09] looking for nominations for that.
[6:13] This is just the voting process.
[6:15] So, I say, I...I see here. I just
[6:28] want to see...And for each of them they
[6:38] only nominated one...so, for...
[6:42] PACIF they only nominated four and
[6:45] for VERB they only nominated one. So it's
[6:48] not a contested contest where you
[6:51] have to try to figure out who's
[6:53] who. So, um, I will proceed to
[6:57] introduce a motion to authorize the
[7:00] secretary to do so on behalf of
[7:03] the board. I
[7:05] second the motion. Any
[7:08] further comments?
[7:08] Willing.
[7:09] I agree.
[7:12] Very well, everyone who is in favor
[7:13] of the motion, please say yes.
[7:15] Anyone against it? George, I'm
[7:18] voting.
[7:18] Yes, let me see those instructions.
[7:20] All this for
[7:22] Yes, I have it.
[7:22] And I know we just authorized you to
[7:25] do that, George, but I mean,
[7:27] based on the fact that there are only
[7:28] four of them.
[7:29] The designated people, that is, me. It's
[7:32] not a big deal.
[7:33] Unless you have a
[7:34] major objection against someone you know
[7:35] there, I think what we're doing is very straightforward
[7:37] . So, I don't
[7:38] have any. It gives us a small
[7:43] clue. Uh, a short uh review of
[7:46] who each one is.
[7:48] Correct.
[7:49] Yes that's fine.
[7:50] And they are all, from what I could
[7:52] quickly see,
[7:54] municipal officials from other places. So
[7:56] , yes. Yes that's fine.
[8:00] Very good. Does
[8:02] the president have to sign that?
[8:04] No, we authorize the secretary.
[8:06] Yes, okay.
[8:06] Yes, it's just one person. The secretary
[8:08] . Yes. They
[8:10] should probably keep that
[8:12] signature under lock and key, because you never know
[8:14] . And while we're at it, Cash, I want to
[8:19] congratulate you on your report about salt
[8:22] , because you held back and didn't use
[8:25] overly salty language.
[8:29] Thank you, Wesley Pepper.
[8:32] Oh, how much wisdom. Very good.
[8:39] So, uh, it was proposed and seconded
[8:42] by... Did anyone second that? It was
[8:46] me.
[8:46] Okay, Donnie.
[8:47] did it.
[8:48] Very well, everyone who is in favor
[8:49] of the motion, please say yes.
[8:51] Anyone against it? Unfinished business,
[8:54] anything? Very good. Um Kim, is there anything you'd
[9:05] like to report? I have
[9:06] nothing planned for tonight.
[9:08] Okay. Are they ready
[9:10] ?
[9:12] Yes.
[9:13] Okay, on behalf of Bob and me, we've been
[9:16] touring the cemeteries, uh,
[9:19] as we always do. But we have
[9:21] identified some trees that
[9:23] need to be cut down. We've had a
[9:25] few offers. Some have arrived.
[9:29] I have an offer. I have a
[9:32] Clarence Chipman Hart section. They are
[9:35] applying for a Volga grant, which will
[9:37] probably cover everything, or at least should
[9:39] cover everything we want to do.
[9:44] We have another tree, a large old linden tree
[9:46] , which is right on the northern line. I
[9:49] went to see Mike McLellan and Eric and they
[9:51] told me to do whatever was
[9:54] necessary. It was shedding branches
[9:57] last winter, two branches fell this
[9:59] spring. So, I got a
[10:03] quote and an offer from
[10:05] Ben Kersten. Is that Benjamin Kersten?
[10:08] And well, $1,500 for removing
[10:11] four trees. It comes out and has four
[10:14] logs that go up. So let's
[10:19] talk to Heidi. I have
[10:22] enough funds in our account, so
[10:25] let's cut down that tree. You ca
[10:27] n't drive a truck back there
[10:28] , right? So they have to
[10:30] scale all of that. I do
[10:32] n't think he owns a truck.
[10:33] Oh. Do
[10:34] n't know. He said he's going to lower it with
[10:35] ropes.
[10:36] Oh, okay. So, yes, he does
[10:37] .
[10:38] He doesn't have a crane truck. I was going
[10:39] to say that I don't think he has a
[10:40] crane.
[10:41] He climbs.
[10:42] I mean, yeah, you can get back there. You ca
[10:45] n't go into the back road with
[10:48] anything big because you can't
[10:50] turn around, but
[10:51] unless you
[10:52] had something you could back up and
[10:54] reach for, but he says he'll lower
[10:55] everything with ropes.
[10:57] Okay, well, that's a good deal
[10:59] then for that amount of money.
[11:01] Yes, I mean, and we have a couple of
[11:04] others, but we can wait with them,
[11:07] except I'm applying for a
[11:09] Voca grant and we should be able to
[11:12] cover the extra work with that,
[11:15] so. Alright
[11:16] . Thank you for the report.
[11:20] Anyone else?
[11:23] Mr. President, if I may, I would
[11:25] like to congratulate Kevin and Bob
[11:27] Underhill on the exceptional
[11:29] presentation they gave to the people.
[11:33] What was the date again, Kevin?
[11:35] September 20th.
[11:36] A very
[11:40] beautiful ceremony with some young people
[11:43] involved with music, which
[11:46] made it even more special. It was one of
[11:51] our city's efforts to
[11:52] celebrate the country's 250th anniversary.
[11:55] Well done.
[11:56] Yes. It was good. I've
[11:58] only heard positive things. So
[12:00] , excellent work. Excellent
[12:02] work.
[12:03] Gloria, do you have anything?
[12:05] No. The elections are coming up in
[12:06] November.
[12:07] Yes.
[12:08] They're sending all the ballots
[12:09] by mail this week. They have until
[12:10] October 1st. They haven't sent them to
[12:12] our town yet.
[12:13] Oh, they haven't sent them yet?
[12:15] I check every day. Let the
[12:17] post office know they're on their way
[12:18] .
[12:20] That will be fun.
[12:21] But if you can, bring them back.
[12:24] Yes, don't send them by mail.
[12:25] Do not return them by mail. If
[12:27] possible.
[12:31] Were you signaling to us, Ed?
[12:33] Oh, when you guys have a moment,
[12:34] I have some information if you
[12:36] want it.
[12:37] Okay, go ahead.
[12:38] Last time we were looking for tires for
[12:39] the tractor.
[12:40] Mhm.
[12:41] Oh, yes. They have them
[12:42] at Pete's. I don't know what
[12:44] the big problem is. They weren't 18 4 by
[12:48] 24. They were 12 4 by 24. They had one in
[12:52] stock. They didn't have one for tomorrow
[12:54] . They cost $635 each at the
[12:56] town's price. When you load and
[12:59] assemble them, it's $200 more.
[13:02] So, they told you that I gave them
[13:03] the wrong measurement.
[13:05] Oh, okay. So, do they have them
[13:07] now?
[13:07] Yes.
[13:08] Okay. I'll
[13:10] add that. I bought two
[13:11] used tires to get by.
[13:15] And they cost $100 each.
[13:17] Even Amazon had them. $520
[13:20] each. But you need to find
[13:21] someone to install them. Just one point of
[13:24] interest about salt. Remember, if
[13:28] you add water to that salt to reach
[13:31] 23%, it goes from 17° above zero, when
[13:33] the salt stops working, to 13 below
[13:36] zero. It lowers the melting point considerably.
[13:43] Mhm. You need to use less salt
[13:45] . If you use salt and sand, it would be much
[13:47] better for our water. We already have a
[13:50] problem here with the water in Clarendon
[13:52] . That's not it. Did I
[13:55] make you understand? That worked well, I
[13:56] thought.
[13:58] Uh, and going on that point, you know,
[14:00] I mentioned that maybe we should move on
[14:02] to the next smaller sieve,
[14:04] a little finer sand like
[14:06] everyone else does and mix it in. I think
[14:11] ...
[14:11] Add water to the sand? Is that what
[14:12] you mean?
[14:13] What did you say?
[14:15] To get the When you add water,
[14:16] you said.
[14:17] Add water to our salt.
[14:19] Make brine.
[14:20] and put it together with the
[14:22] sand.
[14:22] Yes. Now, when we put tanks in
[14:25] the sprinklers or spreaders, when
[14:26] that comes out, it's fine. Two things happen
[14:29] . It grips the road better
[14:31] that way.
[14:33] Yes.
[14:33] And the grip comes from the sand.
[14:35] Yes.
[14:36] This money, every dollar we invest
[14:39] in that salt, I know we have to have it
[14:42] . But let's try to reduce it because,
[14:44] as I said, sooner or later we won't have
[14:46] drinking water.
[14:48] Well, I thought it worked pretty
[14:49] well last year with the
[14:50] salt and sand mixture. That worked well. We
[14:51] did it, it worked. We only used it
[14:54] once or twice.
[14:55] Mhm. You
[14:56] get it better alone because the
[14:59] darkness of the sand with the salt
[15:01] will help melt
[15:02] Mother Nature, the sun shines
[15:03] on that dark sand. It makes salt
[15:05] work. You know, it's science
[15:07] you learned in fifth grade.
[15:10] But I mean, just... And I guess
[15:12] your new truck will probably arrive
[15:15] around February, you know.
[15:18] You thought it was delayed, didn't
[15:19] you? That's what people believe. They were supposed to
[15:21] start on
[15:23] December 1st. Everything was delayed a couple of
[15:26] months, right? Okay, going back for a
[15:31] moment to the subject of roads.
[15:34] Most of those plates that we
[15:37] ...
[15:38] Yes...
[15:38] we had a brief conversation, you and
[15:40] I talked. So we chose the
[15:43] upgraded ones that we hope will last. They
[15:46] won't come here to fix that.
[15:49] Mjm. It
[15:50] took them...it's going to take them two weeks to
[15:52] come and repair a half-
[15:53] million-dollar machine.
[15:54] No, they're coming on Friday.
[15:56] That's what they said on Friday.
[15:58] Yes, and it broke last week.
[15:59] They said two weeks.
[16:00] I had to help them. There will
[16:02] be one. There is one
[16:04] , and I was finally able to contact
[16:08] Ryan this morning. He finally
[16:11] called me back. What happened is that they have
[16:14] these centers where women
[16:16] answer all the calls and stuff. And
[16:20] it was...he said he apologized and that there was
[16:22] a direct communication problem
[16:24] in the matter.
[16:26] But the parts have been ordered and
[16:28] will arrive then. Good. OK.
[16:30] And yes...it's assumed he already received the
[16:33] pieces in Richmond. They're
[16:37] scheduled to come on Friday and we're going to install them,
[16:40] and we also want our
[16:42] mechanic to show us the turnstile
[16:45] where the blade rotates.
[16:47] Yes.
[16:48] Because there are fittings there, about how to
[16:50] actually adjust those fittings. So you don't have to
[16:55] call a mechanic to
[16:57] come and do it every time. If we know
[17:00] how to do it.
[17:01] What are you doing with
[17:03] brine production again this year
[17:05] ? We haven't
[17:05] done it. I mean, we're not
[17:08] ready for that.
[17:11] I'd just say that someone owns
[17:13] that dealership up there. And if it's
[17:16] a call center problem,
[17:17] find out who owns the
[17:19] dealership and I bet they'll get it
[17:20] working for $500,000. Because they do
[17:24] n't want that to be known among the
[17:26] people when you talk about it.
[17:28] I had a good conversation with two
[17:29] different people.
[17:30] For the... Oh, you mean the
[17:31] grader?
[17:31] On the grader.
[17:32] Lastly, did we ever load those
[17:34] tires? I
[17:37] think so. There are two...the grader
[17:40] has...it has
[17:40] n't had its tires loaded.
[17:41] The front ones are loaded because
[17:43] the dealer recommended not loading
[17:45] the rear ones and we only loaded the
[17:46] front ones, right?
[17:47] Correct. Why is that?
[17:49] the torque risk was going to be a
[17:52] bigger problem on the front table.
[17:56] When that grader was built, it
[17:58] was designed with the compactor at the
[18:00] rear. That compactor
[18:02] probably weighed half as much as the
[18:04] tandem dump truck. It was made
[18:06] to lower, release
[18:07] hydraulically, compacted road.
[18:10] You load the tires, where's
[18:12] the weight? Let's think about this. Where
[18:14] 's the weight? The weight is only in
[18:17] the tires. It's not in the
[18:19] machine. It has nothing to do with
[18:21] torque. I mean, I
[18:24] 've checked. I asked.
[18:26] The board is only basing its decision on what the
[18:28] distributor supposedly told us.
[18:30] Everyone around us has
[18:32] had the same problem with the same
[18:33] brand of graders. They are loading
[18:36] tires. If you want it to dig to
[18:39] remove the potholes, you have to put
[18:40] weight on it. It doesn't even do what the
[18:42] old, worn-out one used to do.
[18:45] The old one was a much
[18:46] heavier machine. In other words, it had steel.
[18:49] TRUE. Yes, much smaller
[18:52] too.
[18:54] Half the weight.
[18:56] A question.
[18:57] Carol Austin, speaking of potholes, I
[19:00] wonder if the board could tell me
[19:03] why we haven't leveled
[19:07] Quarterline Road all summer.
[19:11] Yes, it has leveled out. There has been
[19:15] spot leveling where the
[19:16] holes were.
[19:20] Could someone perhaps meet
[19:22] me? Maybe all of you for
[19:25] a walk along Quarterline Road?
[19:30] Is this, is this beyond your house
[19:32] towards the...?
[19:33] It's the entire Quarterline.
[19:36] From the ball field?
[19:37] Yes, the hill is wrong again. They
[19:40] have it on all their
[19:42] dirt roads because, number one, we don't
[19:44] level them enough. You know,
[19:47] I learned about grading from Carl
[19:48] Lamphere, who was probably the
[19:50] best man who ever operated a
[19:52] grader. And he told my brother
[19:55] and me, "You have to level your
[19:56] paths approximately every 6 weeks
[19:58] ." "Just something automatic." And sometimes
[20:02] you have to level them, wait two
[20:03] days, wait two weeks and level them
[20:05] again, because if you have too many
[20:07] bumps, you're not going to remove them, you're going to leave
[20:09] something there. If you can't get it to
[20:12] compact again, it will
[20:14] reappear. Just like when Cash came by
[20:16] today with a front-end loader and put down some
[20:18] free material, which had
[20:20] softball-sized rocks
[20:22] that are still in the way. And
[20:24] when we had just passed by, half of them had already
[20:26] been taken away by the cars that
[20:29] passed by because they are things that are
[20:30] too big. But neither here nor
[20:33] there. The problem is that the roads are
[20:37] not level enough. The
[20:39] grader needs to be on those
[20:41] roads. And you have the washings from which
[20:44] these deluges, rains, come, which
[20:46] none of us can avoid, and
[20:48] everything else. But if
[20:52] gullies form and you don't address them
[20:53] immediately to eliminate them, the water
[20:55] simply continues to flow down the path
[20:58] . The trenches never form; We have
[21:00] some large, beautiful ditches where
[21:03] a car can fit, but the water never reaches
[21:05] them because it doesn't flow down there.
[21:08] Mr. President.
[21:09] Mhm.
[21:11] I would like to thank Jim and Ed for their
[21:15] continued interest in our journeys.
[21:19] I think it's important for people to
[21:21] express themselves. I think that in the future we
[21:25] may have to include it on the agenda,
[21:27] following the protocol we have,
[21:29] given the amount of debate that has
[21:31] arisen.
[21:33] One thing leads to another, but we must
[21:35] decide whether to add ballast to those tires
[21:37] if we want that motor grader
[21:39] to reach its full potential. Just
[21:43] think about it. If that machine is
[21:45] designed to carry a compactor
[21:48] on the back, I bet it weighs about 10,000
[21:50] pounds. What are 3,000 or 4,000 pounds
[21:53] of ballast compared to what
[21:55] the tires will do to that machine?
[21:58] Think about it carefully. I mean, if
[22:01] they want that motor grader to work
[22:03] properly. It's a beautiful machine.
[22:10] What can be done? Can they take care
[22:13] of adding ballast to those tires?
[22:15] Yes, I already did it. But the distributor
[22:18] recommended against it. Although I understand about
[22:22] the warranty and things like that. I was going
[22:25] to say that the other question I would have
[22:27] regarding this is the issue of the
[22:29] warranty. Because it's still under
[22:32] warranty. So, figuring it out...
[22:36] Mhm.
[22:37] All of that. And yes, can you put in
[22:41] writing in an email whether
[22:44] we would still be covered? Would we be...
[22:46] ?
[22:47] The implications of that.
[22:47] Yes, because I know that... We
[22:50] will request it in writing. We'll
[22:51] follow up on that this week. Are
[22:53] you okay, Cash?
[22:54] Oh, yes, definitely.
[22:54] And we'll see if we can achieve something...
[22:57] That's the best thing, that's the best step to
[22:59] take.
[23:00] And then move forward.
[23:03] Yes, the compactor you're talking about, the one in the
[23:06] back. It's a roller, right?
[23:08] Yes, I'd say without counting...
[23:11] like a vibrating roller that
[23:12] attaches to the rear? Does it just roll
[23:15] as dead weight?
[23:16] Flat wheels only. Do you remember the
[23:17] old compactors they used on
[23:18] them?
[23:19] Yes. Yes.
[23:20] Basically the same idea. It's just
[23:22] deadlift. It's designed to go
[23:23] behind the machine when you do the
[23:25] final pass.
[23:25] Which, in my opinion, seems
[23:27] important. Instead of leaving it up there
[23:28] dancing.
[23:29] Absolutely. Because Berlin, or what the
[23:31] heck is the name of that other town
[23:33] near Montpelier? They have
[23:36] one.
[23:36] Sweep. Sweep.
[23:38] They have one on the back of
[23:39] theirs and that's where I saw them for the
[23:40] first time. So I made a couple of
[23:42] calls and found out why the machine was
[23:44] built to carry that.
[23:46] Mjm.
[23:47] You know, which makes perfect sense
[23:49] because...
[23:50] was that attached then? To the
[23:52] back? It
[23:53] goes in the back.
[23:54] Like a trailer?
[23:55] It's as fixed as a snowplow. And it goes up
[23:57] and down with hydraulic cylinders.
[24:00] You can control it directly from
[24:01] the cabin. So when you're
[24:02] leveling, it's up. It's like having
[24:04] a spare axle on a truck. You don't
[24:06] want it low because you'll lose
[24:07] traction. You
[24:08] lower it on the last pass.
[24:10] But when you look at that from the
[24:13] center point, for every inch from the
[24:15] center of the drive axles, that
[24:17] probably adds a ton per
[24:19] inch with the weight transfer,
[24:21] you know? So like I said, loading
[24:26] those tires isn't going to hurt
[24:28] anything. Use beet juice, not chloride,
[24:30] so nothing rots. It won't
[24:32] affect the torque at all. It will just give you
[24:35] more traction on that tire. The
[24:38] only place you'll see that weight is
[24:40] when you weigh the entire machine.
[24:42] And that's what I think the
[24:44] distributor was referring to, as I
[24:46] understand it, is that by putting that
[24:48] extra weight on the tire, you're pushing more
[24:50] towards the ground, so to speak, and
[24:53] they're worried that something between the
[24:55] tire and the
[24:57] drive gear might break in there. That's right
[25:00] , that's how I understood it. And
[25:02] you know, you put weight on that tire,
[25:04] press hard, it's not going to slip.
[25:07] I suppose you know what I mean.
[25:09] From that point of view, I suppose
[25:11] the blade is already broken because the
[25:13] solution is some permanent bushings
[25:14] that go there. Why on earth didn't
[25:17] they build a half-
[25:18] million-dollar machine with something that wouldn't
[25:20] break?
[25:20] Exact.
[25:21] Well, I think that's the question about it
[25:23] .
[25:25] things that I would be
[25:26] emphasizing a lot. Especially
[25:27] knowing who owns that
[25:28] dealership up there. Saying that
[25:30] a machine was stopped for two weeks,
[25:31] that's not right. It's not what we
[25:34] paid for.
[25:41] What are your thoughts, final comment?
[25:43] Looking
[25:44] again, I'll get it. I
[25:46] could deal with it. Get in
[25:47] writing what they suggest
[25:49] so we can have it and proceed
[25:51] from there. I mean, like I said, I'll have
[25:53] the vendor come and meet
[25:55] with a couple of members of the
[25:56] software team. And that they send an
[25:59] email or something like that.
[26:01] It's a shame we've lost
[26:02] ground. We thought we had a
[26:03] new one, but we lost ground. Think about it,
[26:07] I guess we should have gotten that
[26:08] old contraption working again.
[26:14] Well, maybe we should have some
[26:16] kind of workshop where we invite Ed and
[26:18] Jim to share all their ideas with us
[26:20] . That, you know, might be more
[26:25] beneficial if it were done at the end or in the
[26:28] middle of a board meeting. It's
[26:32] , you know, if you want to bring a
[26:34] motion for that, George, it's up to you
[26:37] , but I think so,
[26:39] in the short term. It's just
[26:40] a suggestion.
[26:41] If you meet with Kim and get some
[26:44] information, I'd like to see it in
[26:46] writing.
[26:49] OK. That's how we have it.
[26:51] No, I mean, that's why I think they
[26:53] should be able to put it in writing if
[26:55] there is one, you know, the
[26:56] main question is, does it affect the warranty? And
[26:59] the second one should be a
[27:02] fairly direct, quick, and simple answer.
[27:04] That's what you'd think.
[27:05] That shouldn't be difficult. We're
[27:07] talking about something simple, it should be. It's
[27:09] interesting because it's
[27:10] brief and direct.
[27:11] I spoke with two different towns and
[27:12] got almost the same grader. Very
[27:15] similar. I mean,
[27:17] different sizes or whatever, and they say to
[27:20] load the front, that's all. Did
[27:22] they carry the front line?
[27:23] That's how it is.
[27:25] Good. Well. I mean, simply.
[27:29] But don't forget you have a
[27:31] 14-foot blade there, which was dragging
[27:33] material. Correct. Push that out of the
[27:37] way and you'll lift something, maybe it will
[27:38] require a couple more passes
[27:40] to achieve it.
[27:42] Well, as I said, we can get it
[27:44] in writing and start from there.
[27:47] Oh, definitely.
[27:48] That's the starting point.
[27:52] Very good. Anything else, anyone? Um.
[28:02] I think that. Let's move on to the topics of the
[28:06] select board and then we'll get into
[28:09] some executive sessions. Do you have
[28:13] any other concerns, Cash?
[28:15] No, I'm ready.
[28:16] George?
[28:17] I'm ready for now.
[28:20] Well.
[28:21] Cash, the only thing I was going to
[28:23] follow up on is that I know that at the
[28:24] last meeting you mentioned a couple of
[28:26] roads that don't receive state aid and
[28:28] asked someone about line marking
[28:30] . I was wondering if we had
[28:31] any updates. They've been
[28:32] busy paving.
[28:34] Yes, so nothing yet.
[28:35] Yes.
[28:37] Donny?
[28:39] Nothing that comes to mind, Mr.
[28:41] President. I had something in mind but I
[28:43] forgot it, so it wasn't that
[28:44] important. It could
[28:45] n't have been that important. It
[28:46] wasn't that important. Are you going to
[28:47] write it down? I know I should have written it
[28:48] down.
[28:50] Things that come with age.
[28:51] So, how old are you turning, Don? I'm turning
[28:54] 60 this year.
[28:56] My God, you're still a young man.
[28:58] Yes.
[29:00] No, I have no comment, George. I just
[29:04] turned 79.
[29:06] Um, so, Mr. President,
[29:07] I propose we go into
[29:09] executive session tonight, with no
[29:11] time limit, because we have quite a lot
[29:13] to discuss. Um, and two
[29:17] different staff discussions. And I think
[29:23] we'll start, um, just so the public
[29:25] knows what we're doing. Uh,
[29:26] we're having a discussion with the
[29:27] city clerk, I think, to
[29:28] begin with. And then we have, uh, more
[29:31] deliberations. Um, people have been
[29:34] looking at the posts. We have been
[29:36] interviewing a member of the
[29:38] road maintenance team. Um, so
[29:40] we'll continue those discussions
[29:42] tonight after we've conducted two
[29:44] rounds of interviews.
[29:45] Yes. Then.
[29:47] Is that a motion?
[29:48] That is a motion to enter into
[29:49] executive session.
[29:51] Any comments? All those who
[29:54] support the motion, please say
[29:55] yes.
[29:56] Anyone against it?