[0:01] Next item is considered approval of the
clerky shares 2026
[0:09] uh state advancement.
[0:18] So moved second motion and second. Any
discussion? Those in favor say I. I. Any
[0:25] opposed? Motion carried.
Next item is to consider approval of the
[0:30] Clark County Sheriff's 2026 fees budget.
Motion
[0:36] » second. Motion is second. Any
discussion?
[0:40] Those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
Motion carried. Next item is approval of
[0:48] the Clark County Sheriff's Tax Bond.
[0:55] Have a motion. Is there a second?
Second.
[0:58] Motion and second. Any discussion?
Those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
[1:11] » Next item is U.
Is there approval of order M salaries
[1:19] for the Clark County Sheriff's Office?
Motion to work. Second. Motion.
[1:23] [clears throat]
Second. Any discussion? Those in favor
[1:27] say I. Any opposed? Motion carries.
[1:33] Last item is setting the salary of our
new finance officer, Paul Brown. Um he
[1:42] is in training right now so that when
Fran leaves, he will take over.
[1:48] Motion to approve. Second. So we have a
motion, a second. Any discussion on
[1:53] that?
Those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
[1:58] Motion carried. Next items is just
information only. Uh it's just the
[2:04] Winchester Park uh your meeting and
agendas for October 27th 24th.
[2:11] Uh the community fund.
I have questions for Daniel on the parks
[2:16] board. This this splash pad sponsorship
options. Can you explain that just a
[2:22] bit? I know that different individuals
and organizations sponsored the kids to
[2:27] go there when it first opened up and I
was reading are they wanting to charge
[2:32] more? Is that what this boils down to or
what?
[2:35] » No, they were looking for different
options. The discussion was is about
[2:39] continuing that moving forward because
ultimately having the splash pad open
[2:43] and you have to have it staffed. It's it
cost
[2:46] » Yeah, it there was a cost associated
with it with the water and everything.
[2:50] So they're looking at potential getting
sponsors to keep it free potentially. Uh
[2:56] they're just evaluating this and they
get people companies to sponsor for a
[3:00] weekend time or or
>> but it says but but it would include
[3:04] more than just the admission fee. It
would include those those other items.
[3:09] Is that
>> No, it's going to cover the admission
[3:11] fee.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[3:13] » But it talked about operating expenses
and some other things.
[3:17] » Well, that's just saying that's what it
cover. I mean that's that's why we're
[3:20] generate trying to generate revenue.
Parks budget doesn't have the money to
[3:25] sustain the cost of of the new splash
pad.
[3:29] » Okay.
So on that subject
[3:34] judge I notic going through the minutes
this week
[3:39] regarding the splash park looks like
there was some water backing up in the
[3:43] houses Daniel from Have they resolved
that now? It's in the state that you all
[3:48] addressed.
>> Well, it was well when we addressed it,
[3:51] we were informed of the situation that
was going on. So, basically what had
[3:55] happened was is that uh there was some
water backing up uh over in the
[4:00] apartments. Uh the health department was
caused, but then everyone was called out
[4:04] to it. But, uh ultimately what happened
was is that the they had WB come out and
[4:11] look at water loss and we were losing I
mean thousands and thousands of gallons.
[4:17] U but it doesn't seem to be what was
causing the issue for the back up over
[4:24] at the apartment complex. But uh they
were evaluating where it was they ran
[4:29] stain lines and what they think happened
is is when they were putting the fence
[4:32] line in is that one of the posts were
driven into the into the water line and
[4:37] so they were going to be having the
contractors out and so forth to look at
[4:41] it. So,
but it's all under, you know, all under
[4:46] the
>> You said we were losing again
[4:51] though, but nothing was
>> Well, I mean, it was on the parks
[4:55] department. I mean, it was from the
splash pad.
[4:57] » Okay. on their meter. They have their
meter
[5:01] fence post
[5:10] that it was just the preliminary stuff
that we received. So, I'm sure we'll
[5:13] have more of this.
[5:20] The next uh item of information was the
awards
[5:26] for the Clark County Community Fund
and the last one was the Clark County
[5:33] Wes transit report for November 25.
[5:40] Next item on the agenda is manager
comments.
[5:47] Uh first of all, I just want to give a
shout out to the fire department, county
[5:51] fire department for having a bunch of
gifts for a gift drive that we do during
[5:55] this time of year uh for our
communities. Uh also want to give a
[5:59] shout out to the [clears throat] animal
shelter. They have come up with a
[6:02] ability to make uh cat houses and have
handed out a bunch and it was just a
[6:06] really great idea. I just want to throw
that out. Uh I wanted to give
[6:10] condolences to Dicky Everman uh which is
the head of the opioid abatement uh
[6:15] committee. uh his wife wanted to pass
and I just wanted to give him a shout
[6:19] out on that. A couple quick questions.
Um just just on one I know we have
[6:25] different committees. Is is there a
reason that we do not have a committee
[6:28] for like for instance the corner, the
jail, that kind of thing. Is there do we
[6:33] do it in the past? Have we done it in
the past? I just didn't know if we
[6:36] wanted to be able to help them to
understand each each area a little bit
[6:40] better. uh kind of maybe have a pulse on
that to be able when they come with
[6:44] needs and we have a better understanding
of someone on that.
[6:49] We've done that in the past.
>> We had to deal with the committee at one
[6:54] point.
>> That was basically for those special
[6:56] issues that come up all at once. So
>> yeah, but we've never had one for office
[7:02] » and they are constitutional officers.
So, I mean, they pretty much control,
[7:07] you know,
it's a thought. I mean, we can ask him
[7:10] if they think it would help, but
I know that quarter mentioned that he
[7:15] would like to have that just so that we
would know when he comes, you know, like
[7:19] just working on the fire department
committee. I understand that a little
[7:22] more when they come and ask for a tool
why they need it. And so, I just didn't
[7:25] know if we wanted to have someone on
that would be willing to sit on that
[7:30] committee.
[7:35] Well, at least I know that the corner
has mentioned he like it. So, can I make
[7:39] a motion that we start a committee uh
for the coroners department?
[7:45] I'll second that.
>> The corner here and you would you like
[7:51] to address that? Well, I am open to that
cuz I'm open to to more brains and more
[7:57] eyeballs on on the on the corner's
office itself and it it may help us move
[8:05] forward and be able to get uh needed
equipment or or programs moving forward
[8:11] that we need volunteers.
volunteers. Say that again.
[8:17] If you need volunteer
style,
[8:21] too.
[8:26] So, yeah, that that would be welcome to,
like I said, get a couple more Marines
[8:31] going and get their input and then maybe
they uh understand a little more the the
[8:37] direction of the corner's office and
what we do. And we'd have to judge point
[8:43] what you got. So we can vote on that and
judge right.
[8:46] » How many members do you think you want?
>> I guess we could follow along with what
[8:54] other committees there are like two
magistrates and a a civilian committee
[9:01] member. We could do that. I've not
thought of anybody for the civilian
[9:04] member yet.
So that which mag which magistrates
[9:09] we're going to be in I'll serve
[9:17] I'll serve also throughout the rest of
the year. Thank you all.
[9:22] And then also I've got a
a gentleman I know he used to be a grant
[9:28] writer for the Kentucky State Police
procurement.
[9:31] uh he so graciously uh offered to he's
helping look for any grants that may be
[9:37] out there to help
with uh equipment, vehicles,
[9:44] uh whatever that may be out there
>> when he served as a civilian.
[9:50] [clears throat]
>> He's uh he's not really from Winchester,
[9:53] so but uh he said he'd be willing to
help uh with trying to find grants. Now,
[10:00] he wouldn't write the grant or anything,
but uh he'll find those that are out
[10:05] there.
>> Let's do this. Let's go ahead and have a
[10:08] preliminary meeting with this man,
myself, and let's we'll kind of come up
[10:12] with something.
How about that?
[10:14] » That's fine.
>> Thank you. I have an order in the next
[10:18] meeting of establishing the committee
and date, time that it's going to meet,
[10:23] and who's going to be on it.
>> Okay. And then [clears throat] we'll
[10:27] have probably a civilian by that time.
>> Thank you,
[10:40] » Judge. I just wanted a couple.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.
[10:44] » Any more discussion on that?
[10:49] » Okay. Any further discussion on that?
Those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
[10:57] Motion carries.
All right. Now,
[11:03] judge, I just wanted to comment on what
a great ceremony the fire department put
[11:10] on last week at the Terry Drive station.
They did I think six
[11:17] were either sworn in new firefighters or
there were three or four promotions. I
[11:22] think three promotions. team's not here
this morning, but I thought it worked
[11:26] out really well. Plenty of room. They
didn't
[11:30] have a nice cake. It wasn't really
rushed last year. Pad was able to be
[11:35] there.
I thought it was a really good setting
[11:39] for it.
I thought it worked out maybe a little
[11:43] better than doing it in the court
meeting so that they didn't feel rushed
[11:46] and family had time to take a lot of
pictures and so forth. So, but uh I
[11:51] thought that uh went very well and
some good promotions there that uh I
[11:58] think the department's doing well. Uh
and the only other thing I just wanted
[12:02] to welcome Mr. Brown to our county
government
[12:06] and welcome him. Congratulate for coming
on board with us and there's anything we
[12:11] can do.
[12:17] Uh first I want to correct what I said
at our at our meeting earlier about the
[12:22] 8:30 time at the meeting when we move it
forward. Uh that wasn't the original
[12:27] proposal but it was approved. So it
wasn't a special meeting and as as the
[12:31] meeting before Christmas won't be
special meeting. So I stand corrected on
[12:35] that. Uh do we have any updates on two
different things? And I know they're
[12:40] both kind of kind of hanging out there
about the CET building and the sheriff's
[12:44] move and then where we stand on the the
sewer project. I know that that money
[12:48] has to be spent and and the CE closure.
I'm not is there anyone on the court who
[12:54] would give us give myself and the public
an update on both of those or both or
[12:59] either of those projects?
>> Well, on the sewer project, I'm hoping
[13:02] to have a more comprehensive update for
the whole fiscal board. What I'd like to
[13:07] do is maybe have judge put that on
agenda. If not the next meeting, then
[13:11] our first meeting in January,
probably the first meeting in January,
[13:16] there's at least one piece of
far litigation that was filed in the
[13:23] last couple of months and some other
negotiations. I will say that the single
[13:28] largest easement, which is several
thousand ft, was signed this past week
[13:33] and that property owner was paid. Uh so
that was a pretty big milestone for us.
[13:40] But hope hopefully we'd like to get it
on the agenda, maybe the first meeting
[13:43] in January and have Stephanie BL, our
engineer, be here if she's available
[13:48] answering the engineering
design type questions.
[13:54] And then in regard to the sheriff's
office in CEP,
[13:59] uh myself, Judge Mer Davis, uh Miss
Wilson, Sheriff
[14:06] wanted to met there were some outlying
questions in regards to layout of the
[14:12] building, how it was going to be
utilized, and so forth. And I think
[14:15] there's a plan in place that they're
going to be drawing up and uh bringing
[14:20] to the court for consideration and
approval. Is that correct?
[14:25] » Hopefully next meeting.
>> Next meeting. So I think those logistics
[14:30] are
>> we decided how we're going to pay for
[14:31] all this. I mean there's none of it in
the budget for any of this stuff. So we
[14:35] need to decide how we're going to pay
for the move and the utilities and I'm I
[14:42] haven't been apprised of any of that. So
when we talk about that, I'd like to
[14:45] have that discussion as well.
>> Yeah, I think that's all going to be
[14:48] included in in the proposal of what they
can do. They're looking at their
[14:52] finances and seeing, you know, for the
utilities regardless the utilities uh
[14:57] are in the general fund. We're going to
have to pay those utilities out one way
[15:01] or another since the CE funding stopped.
So
[15:07] um just a couple of questions for the
judge. I mean, we we've put Janet on
[15:12] this part time to help with payroll.
There's there's are we assured there'll
[15:16] be no issues with payroll when Janet
leaves and everyone will get paid and
[15:21] we're training people to take over and
accept [clears throat] accepting
[15:25] applications in that whole process.
She's been accepting applications. Uh
[15:30] she's been working, I believe,
separating out the the duties of the of
[15:35] the payroll. So, uh, she assures me that
everything will we have a backup in
[15:41] place. I believe that Mary Levens is our
backup, I think, and Jan's been working
[15:48] with her. I think she's even talked to
uh the deputy judge on some duties, I
[15:55] think. So, as long as there's a plan in
place and our people get paid and then
[15:59] there was a h issue with heat. Now, I
went up to look at that radiator this
[16:03] morning that we need to have someone go
look at that radiator up in the uh
[16:06] office on the landing. It's It's got a
terrible leak or something. There's It's
[16:10] not right. So, if we can have them have
someone go look at that radiator. It's
[16:14] not something's not right. I mean, looks
like it's got a leak.
[16:17] » It's got pink stuff that's come out of
it and falling down the something's
[16:21] wrong with that. I don't know what it
is, but that's that could be part of the
[16:24] issue with it not eating enough anyway.
But that need to get whoever looks at
[16:28] our boiler system to go look at that
particular radiator. Maybe which one is
[16:31] it up there?
>> Mary Bee's office.
[16:34] » Mary Be's office. In her office had that
radiator. Something's bad wrong with it.
[16:37] It's got
>> It was the same stuff oozing out of it.
[16:41] Like I guess maybe it's the antifreeze
or the coolant or whatever it is that
[16:44] runs through there. So that needs to be
addressed.
[16:47] » That's an
um I guess that's all I've got
[16:55] in regards to the payroll. I know some
of that in our last meeting we had
[17:00] discussed
uh about moving some of those things
[17:04] over temporarily to Mary B.
>> Uh have you had discussion with her in
[17:09] regards to because we said that we're
going to be shifting more responsibility
[17:12] that we need to compensate her
temporarily while she's acting in those
[17:17] taking on those additional
responsibilities and I thought we were
[17:20] going to have an order or something this
meeting to be able to address that. Have
[17:24] you had that conversation yet, Judge?
[17:29] Do we know what amounts or how many
hours? Have we thought about all that? I
[17:34] mean, I thought you were working on
that.
[17:38] » That's
conversation talk about all that.
[17:43] » I I do have one more comment though
before before we do. Uh how are we with
[17:50] our road department employees? I know
snow will start flying here usually
[17:53] first of January. We already had a bunch
of early snows, but are we fully staffed
[17:58] to get roads cleaned or we short staffed
or how do we stand on that? Because I
[18:03] know folks in the capital want the roads
cleaned and salted and uh seem like
[18:08] we're short up there, I think. But I
think with that part time that that we
[18:12] hired at the last meeting that he got
pretty well staffed. I know we got a
[18:16] full pen assault, but I believe he's got
one fellow. We remember in the last
[18:20] meeting we hired. But I thought that I
thought that still didn't bring this up
[18:23] to show.
>> Yeah, I thought he was just I think
[18:26] there was three or four short salt.
>> Well, he's full.
[18:29] » There's plenty of salt up there.
>> Yeah, I don't know if they used any of
[18:32] these snow to do. Did they put solder to
scrape on these L?
[18:36] » They used I think 70 80 yards last time
or ton.
[18:42] » Okay, that's that's all I got.
>> He had 2,000 tons of full structure.
[18:48] But we defin but back to my initial
comment there. We did definitely have an
[18:53] order on it. Our next meeting for Mary B
uh if she we will take on those
[18:58] additional responsibilities.
>> What we all negotiate after put that in
[19:02] the order we'll consider.
>> Correct. And then the uh
[19:08] something else. Oh, on the uh director
of human resources, how many resumes
[19:13] have we were seeing and do we need to
implement a process on when we're going
[19:18] to cuz we probably ought to start moving
pretty [clears throat] quickly interview
[19:22] process. I know we kind of mentioned
about doing a special call meeting to
[19:26] where you can all be at and have them
come in interview and that way we can
[19:30] all ask questions and so forth. Do we
know how many ress we received? Judge,
[19:34] » the last number I heard was somewhere
between 15 to 20.
[19:39] Very good. Well, we can send those out
and start
[19:44] start evaluating see you can those are
not qualified to start with before we
[19:49] even go there.
>> We have about 25
[19:52] maybe 10 that you want to look at.
[laughter]
[19:56] » That's not a surprise, is it?
>> So, but that's average. But yeah, you
[20:01] have a good group to pull from.
>> Obviously, it's not on today's agenda,
[20:04] but could maybe we get copies of those
this morning. Do you want them all or
[20:08] you just want me to pull out the
>> ones?
[20:13] Crayon. Don't
>> Okay.
[20:19] » Appropriate.
>> Okay. I'll send them out to you today.
[20:22] » I pulled them off from Indie and the
website this morning. So, those will be
[20:26] the latest and you'll probably keep
getting them.
[20:28] » Can I get a paper copy this morning? I
know you're busy.
[20:31] » Well, I haven't um I can try. Yeah, I
can try to pull out the 10. I just
[20:36] haven't had a good chance to
[clears throat] go through with the
[20:39] judge and look at the follow up. So,
>> and then the uh last thing I want to say
[20:44] is that uh want to commend everybody
that had something to do with the the
[20:48] Christmas parade. It turned out very
good, very well attended. And also uh
[20:53] thank you to all the individuals that
chipped in and uh donated their time and
[20:58] efforts on the Christmas tree. Uh they
didn't have to do that. We appreciate
[21:02] them jumping in and doing all that work.
So,
[21:06] That's all I have. Do you want to
finish? I'm that I just I just I forgot
[21:10] to vote my vote on
finish.
[21:13] » And just one one last thing before I'm I
did talk to Mary Levens about the
[21:18] additional duties and what I recommended
to her with the average of 4 hours times
[21:24] my rate because she's doing that work
that you pay me to do. So I don't know
[21:28] if four hours is what she thought was
fair. Is it more?
[21:31] » I mean I don't really have a clue. I
was, you know, like I explained to you
[21:34] when I left, I thought I was going to be
doing it. So, I really didn't look at it
[21:38] as just x amount of hours, you know, and
I was told he was going to talk to me
[21:43] and I haven't talked to him. So,
>> work to make sure. Just one question.
[21:48] What are we going to do? We have before
next meeting that we're going to be
[21:51] approving all this. How are we going to
work through that?
[21:53] » Uh, well, like we talked, but you
weren't at the last meeting.
[21:56] » Sorry. I'm going to do the preliminary
doing all the up, you know, getting the
[22:00] entries in and making sure everything
the rates and everything needs to be
[22:03] changed, the onboarding, the new hires,
and uh making sure that all gets done
[22:07] because that's an ongoing situation.
Every day you may have something. And
[22:11] then once that's done, she will do the
processing and making sure the treasurer
[22:15] has all the reforcement she needs, the
fund, and all that kind of stuff. And
[22:19] then I'll do that backup. Once she
[clears throat] once that's done, I'll
[22:22] go in and do the termination, start the
new payroll, and we'll keep doing it
[22:26] that way. So, the problem will be the
processing is not that difficult. It's
[22:31] if she has problems, then she has to
call ADP and she can only do that from
[22:36] in here. She It's, you know, I've got to
do that.
[22:45] Mr.
I want to echo uh Magister Miller
[22:51] brought up wanting to Everman. um her
and her husband had done a remarkable
[22:58] job of uh helping folks seeking recovery
in our community and I had went to a the
[23:06] picnic at the
college park back here in the fall and
[23:11] um she was there and
tied to almost every one of the recovery
[23:17] groups in the county and what she done
was remarkable and it's a sad loss. for
[23:24] our community.
Um, judge, I had sent an email this week
[23:29] and I didn't get a response back um,
regarding the CSX bridge, the paperwork
[23:34] that um, we took up on 115.
Have you signed that? Have you sent that
[23:40] in? What we what I did? Uh, I forwarded
that on over to the county attorney and
[23:46] he had recommended that we go through
the old contract and the new contract
[23:50] word for word and we got that finished
couple days ago and what we're going to
[23:56] do is give you guys I guess we go back
to you and let you see the changes
[24:03] and when can we get that done these poor
folks.
[24:07] Um, that was something the county
attorney recommended to us back in uh,
[24:11] March when we decided that we weren't
going to apply for that loan. That's
[24:15] been nine months. And
they had reached out to me and asked me
[24:19] if I could check in with you to see if
we can get those signatures and get that
[24:24] turned in.
[24:27] At this point, it's been 5 weeks since
we initially looked at it. I don't have
[24:31] anything else to do. My job is to see if
it's in the deal proper properly or not.
[24:36] I
take that in consideration
[24:41] determined it was I don't know how long
ago sometime
[24:48] » so I mean we make I mean we've already
made a motion for him to sign it. What
[24:54] should you?
>> Well, I mean, we have identified, you
[25:00] know, I mean, from our ability, we've
identified what has been taken out
[25:06] and it looks like it's everything that
pertains to basically the word grant.
[25:14] That's what we voted on.
[25:18] » That was November 10th. Yeah. Get that
signed.
[25:24] » So if if you're okay with it, then we'll
sign it and send it. I mean, that was
[25:28] the motion the order, right?
>> Yeah. Let's just sign it.
[25:33] [clears throat]
[25:39] » That's all I
[25:42] about the Bull Springs Road thing. We're
still uh hanging on that and u uh
[25:49] they've been out there and plowed that
road and there were some pieces that
[25:53] start to break up. We've got pictures
along the side of the road that's
[25:58] that just wasn't done well. And so we're
back to this whole issue about that
[26:02] thing. And you know, as far as I'm
concerned, uh you I can't see how we can
[26:08] we could pay that. Uh first off, I don't
know that we followed the process for a
[26:13] bit. And then if he uh uh indicated that
he was certified and he was not, then it
[26:22] seems to me he got the job under false
pretenses
[26:26] and then the work wasn't performed uh
satisfactorily or or at least the way
[26:31] it's supposed to have been done. So uh
you I don't know where we go from here,
[26:36] but uh you know, I can't see us being
able to pay that. that we just beat just
[26:41] about for anybody if we pay for
something like that.
[26:47] So I just uh do you have any anything
you think you said that that the state
[26:52] had said that they were okay with this
certification or no?
[26:57] » I think uh I think this is probably a
subject for close session.
[27:02] » Okay.
Okay.
[27:04] » And we could do that next time we Yes,
let's do that.
[27:11] That's all I have. No, no, I want to
mention the cat houses. U Addie and them
[27:16] just doing a fantastic job that she's
given out 150 of those that she's found
[27:22] a way that they take plastic tote
styrofoam coolers and cut a hole in them
[27:27] and put straw in there and they just set
them outside for people to come get
[27:32] them. and uh that that that really going
above and beyond as she always does and
[27:37] always short-handed as she always is. So
just another shout out to Addie. That's
[27:43] all.
[27:46] Next item on the agenda is a journ.
However, the uh it says the next regular
[27:52] meeting will be December 23rd. There is
a special meeting December 16th at 8:30
[27:58] in the morning to do the second reading
of the U budget. This is Tuesday morning
[28:06] the 16th. What is that?
Let me let me ask judge and I I'll
[28:12] correct this to you and the county
attorney. I mean, we need to make a
[28:15] motion to go into close session to
discuss that issue this morning. I want
[28:19] to put this thing off, but we're But
there still is a jeopardy here.
[28:28] Regularly scheduled meeting. You can
certainly do it this morning if it's a
[28:32] pleasure. board
[28:36] meeting
I'll make the motion going
[28:56] and that's what I believe it's going to
lead to
[29:01] I'll make that motion A second.
[29:17] All right.
We are in low session.