1 00:12:09,320 --> 00:23:29,250 OK. To that. Mhm Uh, All right, we're good. Hello 2 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:31,630 everybody. This is Gina Blackman Taylor. I am calling 3 00:23:31,630 --> 00:23:34,219 this meeting of the Bond Oversight Committee on April 4 00:23:34,219 --> 00:23:40,270 21, 2026 to order at 11:36 a.m. Apologize for the 5 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:44,650 slight delay to start. Uh, let's do roll call. I am 6 00:23:44,650 --> 00:23:53,800 here. Uh, Chris G. Thank you, Chris. Al Lopez present 7 00:23:53,969 --> 00:24:00,790 present virtually. Hello, Sally Acord, I saw you. Yeah 8 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,750 I'm here. Oh, there you are. Um, Jessica Allen, I 9 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:13,910 saw you. I'm here. Hello. Hi, David Flatt. Thank you 10 00:24:14,270 --> 00:24:20,469 Margarita Gmboa Harris. OK, absent. Uh, James Halsey 11 00:24:20,469 --> 00:24:28,459 is absent. Nikia Jackson Hale present. Hello. Um, Walter 12 00:24:28,459 --> 00:24:32,280 Jones, present, thank you, sir. Steven Silver Krauss 13 00:24:33,069 --> 00:24:37,339 present. Thank you, Yvette Williams, thank you, and 14 00:24:37,339 --> 00:24:41,300 we are joined by Truste President Stevens and still 15 00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:45,859 our liaison, yes, ma'am Stevens, yes, welcome. Uh 16 00:24:46,099 --> 00:24:52,369 of note is that, um. Uh, our other David has, uh, resigned 17 00:24:52,369 --> 00:24:58,609 from, uh, the committee, so we are, um. Uh, David 18 00:24:58,609 --> 00:25:02,619 Flippo, sorry, I lost his name for a second. So, um 19 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:08,119 we are down that position as well as he was the finance 20 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,540 um, liaison. I have asked, uh, Chris to, uh, no, sorry 21 00:25:14,619 --> 00:25:17,180 I've asked Chris to step in for design, so we'll get 22 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:20,239 to that part when we get to the, um, liaison representatives 23 00:25:20,410 --> 00:25:22,380 but we are going to be in need of someone that is 24 00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:25,459 willing to, uh, be the finance liaison. So if that 25 00:25:25,459 --> 00:25:28,849 is a position that interests you, um, please let me 26 00:25:28,849 --> 00:25:33,170 know, um. Sorry, did I have a question? Did I hear 27 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:38,270 a beep? I heard a beep. I heard a ping. We'll get 28 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:43,069 to that in a second. So we're going to get to 1011.01 29 00:25:43,069 --> 00:25:47,300 opening items. Uh, let us go to the flag salute. Mr 30 00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:49,569 Jones, would you mind leading us in the flag saluteute 31 00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:20,060 We are now, we this is that's the way we learned in 32 00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:25,750 school, right? That's yes, but it, it is all nicely 33 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:28,150 written out here on our agenda so we can take a look 34 00:26:28,150 --> 00:26:31,489 at it individually should we, should we choose and 35 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,719 and see that there is in fact no comma. So we will 36 00:26:34,719 --> 00:26:39,439 now move to 1.02, the adoption of the agenda, uh, as 37 00:26:39,439 --> 00:26:42,280 this is an action item, we can have discussion first 38 00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,079 then we'll take public comment, and then I will entertain 39 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,699 a motion. So do we have any discussion on this issue 40 00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:52,050 Do we have any public, oh, did you, is that a reason 41 00:26:52,099 --> 00:26:56,939 uh, do we have any public comment on this issue? OK 42 00:26:57,099 --> 00:27:01,319 seeing none, I will entertain a motion moved. Uh, who 43 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,140 I'm sorry, who was that? That was Steven. We got a 44 00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:08,180 second from, uh, Mr. Flatt. So all in favor, please 45 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:14,099 say aye aye opposed. Hearing none, the motion carries 46 00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:18,459 that agenda is approved. We will move on to 2.01. This 47 00:27:18,459 --> 00:27:22,280 is another action item, approval of the minutes. Um 48 00:27:22,459 --> 00:27:25,020 we will, I will entertain discussion for a moment 49 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:28,180 if anyone wants to take a look. If you have not had 50 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:33,280 a chance to already, we'll give a couple minutes. I 51 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,160 wanted to say something about the minutes from the 52 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,699 last meeting. Yes, Miss Helen. Um, so I sent an email 53 00:27:39,699 --> 00:27:43,880 to, I forget who I sent the email to, but I was having 54 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760 technical difficulties in attempting to log in online 55 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,349 and wasn't able to log in until I think 30 minutes 56 00:27:50,349 --> 00:27:53,589 after the meeting had begun, um, but I just wanted 57 00:27:53,589 --> 00:27:57,359 to note that I had been present. OK, um, and you are 58 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 actually still marked present on this, on the minutes 59 00:28:00,719 --> 00:28:05,000 Do you want it not? Is that OK, so you're, you don't 60 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,810 need to make a change to this? No, I just wanted to 61 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:09,839 make sure that that was, that was in there correctly 62 00:28:09,969 --> 00:28:13,349 Sorry. OK, no, no problem. Thank you, Miss Ellen. So 63 00:28:14,099 --> 00:28:16,160 do we have any other discussion items for this one 64 00:28:17,439 --> 00:28:21,479 No, the other one, there you go. Red should be stop 65 00:28:21,709 --> 00:28:26,359 Blue should be go, but anyway. I would make a motion 66 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,020 that we adopt the minutes, uh, from Tuesday, March 67 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:32,380 17th without correction. OK, thank you, Chris. I will 68 00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:35,060 entertain that motion for just a moment. Uh, sorry 69 00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:38,020 who was that second? Second from Steven. Yeah, uh 70 00:28:38,339 --> 00:28:40,930 I'll take the one from Nikia. Then I heard that voice 71 00:28:40,930 --> 00:28:44,180 first. However, I do need to, uh, take a quick break 72 00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,239 and see if there was public comment on this issue 73 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:49,219 There was not, so we have a motion on the floor from 74 00:28:49,219 --> 00:28:52,180 Chris, a second from Nikia. All in favor, please say 75 00:28:52,180 --> 00:29:00,020 aye. Aye, aye, aye. great opposed. Hearing none, motion 76 00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:05,380 carries. So that is the minutes, um, moving on to 77 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:08,140 2.02. This is where we can talk more fully about our 78 00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,619 chair and liaison representatives. So first we'll 79 00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:12,699 uh, go through our list and then I will let you know 80 00:29:12,699 --> 00:29:18,319 what our, um, what our openings are. So L for construction 81 00:29:19,689 --> 00:29:22,660 Nothing to report on this time. Thank you. Thank you 82 00:29:22,819 --> 00:29:27,400 Al. David, on site selection and land use. Nothing 83 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,790 to report at this time. Thank you, David. Yvette for 84 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:38,199 community relations. It's Yvette Williams, um. I was 85 00:29:38,199 --> 00:29:41,719 in Portland for the last, um, 2 weeks. My daughter 86 00:29:41,719 --> 00:29:44,439 had surgery, so I didn't get to follow up with our 87 00:29:44,439 --> 00:29:47,910 chief of communications, Kirsten. We did have an, uh 88 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,150 informal conversation though around identifying. The 89 00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:55,140 contact person and communications that according to 90 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:58,589 our bylaws I should be working with, um, so I will 91 00:29:58,589 --> 00:30:01,290 follow up with her to see if we, uh, can get that 92 00:30:01,290 --> 00:30:04,589 meeting scheduled so that we can get that resolved 93 00:30:04,949 --> 00:30:09,790 Um, I also had intended to, um, attend, uh, two of 94 00:30:09,790 --> 00:30:15,089 the meetings, um, uh, regarding the master plan, um 95 00:30:15,109 --> 00:30:18,589 and, uh, I could not having to go to Portland, but 96 00:30:18,589 --> 00:30:21,930 I am attending to this week. And I know they have 97 00:30:21,979 --> 00:30:25,939 um, uh, have been, uh, very busy with a very busy 98 00:30:25,939 --> 00:30:30,180 schedule, um, uh, and I did wanna just ask, um, if 99 00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:33,660 you don't mind, Chief, if you are the minutes being 100 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:36,459 attended, have you gotten any feedback from our consultants 101 00:30:36,459 --> 00:30:39,939 as far as, as far as, um, the attendance? Have we 102 00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:44,170 seen an improvement is basically what I'm asking. Brandon 103 00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:45,719 McLaughlin, Chief Facilities for the Record, yeah 104 00:30:45,770 --> 00:30:48,680 I was gonna cover that in 2.04, but, um, absolutely 105 00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:52,250 um, I wanna say last Thursday up in WAFA, an article 106 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:53,650 just came out this morning, I believe it was in the 107 00:30:53,650 --> 00:30:57,050 hundreds, um, up there, um, Boulder City also had 108 00:30:57,130 --> 00:30:59,560 I believe, over 80, um, in attendance out there a 109 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,359 couple of weeks ago, um, so word's getting out a lot 110 00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:06,189 better and it's in particular. Um, some of the hard 111 00:31:06,189 --> 00:31:08,189 to reach communities, um, we're seeing good turnout 112 00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:10,739 um, and growing, and so, uh, we're, we're really excited 113 00:31:10,739 --> 00:31:14,030 about the strategy has been. Thank you. That's, uh 114 00:31:14,069 --> 00:31:18,010 my report. Thank you anyone has any questions of me 115 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:20,920 Well, uh, if anyone has any questions of, of that 116 00:31:20,969 --> 00:31:23,089 but Chris, you also attended one. Is this, do you 117 00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:24,949 wanna talk about it now or wait until Brandon brings 118 00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:28,189 it up? Brandon. Great. Great, thank you. Thank you 119 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:30,329 And then, well, right back to you, Chris, on design 120 00:31:30,569 --> 00:31:33,750 So this is what I was, uh, uh, talking about earlier 121 00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:37,689 I misspoke. So with Rob Gordonson's departure, we 122 00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:42,834 do not. Have a design liaison, um, when I put out 123 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:45,155 that offer last month I had still hadn't heard anything 124 00:31:45,194 --> 00:31:48,594 so Chris has offered to step up in this role, um, at 125 00:31:48,594 --> 00:31:52,255 least for now we, as we're talking about some of our 126 00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:55,714 board members overall, we are hoping to fulfill our 127 00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:58,795 bylaws with some of those categories that would be 128 00:31:58,795 --> 00:32:01,834 staff selections. I, uh, Valerie was kind enough to 129 00:32:01,834 --> 00:32:04,064 send where our openings were, but I, it does seem 130 00:32:04,064 --> 00:32:06,994 as if an architect or and or a financial person would 131 00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:10,069 be two of the. Um, specialties that we would want 132 00:32:10,069 --> 00:32:13,089 to look at, um, that can be a further conversation 133 00:32:13,469 --> 00:32:16,650 But for now, Chris and design, uh, do you have anything 134 00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:19,729 for us today? Um, the only thing I have on this section 135 00:32:19,729 --> 00:32:24,369 is I need to go back and research because in the 90s 136 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,760 After we did the bond rollover. Legislatively, we 137 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,760 had an interim committee and design was a component 138 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,900 of that. We recommended at that time that schools 139 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,469 include daylighting in their automatic construction 140 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,180 And I don't know where somebody was asking me where 141 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:40,270 that exists. So I don't know if the district's ever 142 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,239 um, Adopted anything or if you are aware of any regs 143 00:32:44,239 --> 00:32:46,920 if not I'll continue to try to research that part 144 00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:50,479 just as a go forward concept because it came up at 145 00:32:50,479 --> 00:32:53,760 Chaparral last week um with regard to the redesign 146 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,400 of the new school and the lighting and and so on and 147 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520 so forth on how to bring in the day lighting so that 148 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,719 was the only thing that I have comment wise thank 149 00:33:00,719 --> 00:33:06,099 you. Do you have any response to that, Mr. McLaughlin 150 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,569 Brandon McLaughlin, for the record, I'm, I'm not familiar 151 00:33:08,569 --> 00:33:11,810 with where those policies or regs may be and legislatively 152 00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:14,609 um, we're happy to research that. Uh, I'd say best 153 00:33:14,609 --> 00:33:18,280 practice and our director for design management would 154 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,209 also back up. We know daylighting improves educational 155 00:33:21,209 --> 00:33:23,209 outcomes and so that's part of our standard slate 156 00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:26,430 of designs currently. And there were no regs. It was 157 00:33:26,430 --> 00:33:29,329 an interim committee recommendation that I don't recall 158 00:33:29,329 --> 00:33:32,109 if it was adopted legislatively or not. So don't, I 159 00:33:32,109 --> 00:33:34,069 don't wanna waste staff's time digging through that 160 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,189 I'll continue to look, but if you've incorporated 161 00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:40,469 that in your design now, I will feel comfortable saying 162 00:33:40,469 --> 00:33:42,829 that publicly, but I didn't feel comfortable saying 163 00:33:42,829 --> 00:33:48,229 that publicly at the time. Thank you Chris. That concludes 164 00:33:48,229 --> 00:33:52,439 2.02. So we'll move on to 2.03 report by the Clark 165 00:33:52,439 --> 00:33:54,800 County Board of School Trustees liaison President 166 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:02,209 Stevens. Um, I'm actually waiting on our CFO to give 167 00:34:02,209 --> 00:34:04,250 me some information that I really wanted to provide 168 00:34:04,329 --> 00:34:08,770 I know that we have, uh, the board approved a $600,000 169 00:34:08,770 --> 00:34:11,209 bond, I believe it is to go before the debt commission 170 00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:15,100 Am I, do I have it right? Is it $600? 600 million 171 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,540 600 million. Sorry, and that's to the board for resolution 172 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:21,580 approval so far. Oversight panel for school facilities 173 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:24,820 meets May 11th regarding that. Yes, uh, so that'll 174 00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:27,290 be going to the debt commission and then my, uh, my 175 00:34:27,379 --> 00:34:29,959 the other thing that I understand is that we recently 176 00:34:29,959 --> 00:34:34,580 sold some bonds, uh, and, and saved the district a 177 00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:37,310 few million if I recall, you know, as part of our 178 00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:41,340 ongoing process, we look at our old bonds that are 179 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:44,090 existing. If we can get a better interest rate on 180 00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:47,209 those bonds, we will buy those bonds back. The current 181 00:34:47,209 --> 00:34:50,489 rate to give us savings when we issue the new funds 182 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,969 So what you'll see a refunding bond that goes to pay 183 00:34:53,969 --> 00:34:56,489 off old debt, and at the time that we're doing that 184 00:34:56,489 --> 00:34:59,290 again, we have interest savings on what we're purchasing 185 00:34:59,290 --> 00:35:04,129 back. Yeah, so one of the, the things that, um, the 186 00:35:04,129 --> 00:35:07,010 team has done a phenomenal job at is paid very close 187 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:10,050 attention to the market. And understanding when the 188 00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:12,689 right time, the timing is everything and so they've 189 00:35:12,689 --> 00:35:14,969 done a phenomenal job they've they've presented that 190 00:35:14,969 --> 00:35:18,229 to us, uh, at our one of our most recent board meetings 191 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,350 and so, um, the team's doing a really great job, um 192 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,570 in being fiscally responsible with these bonds and 193 00:35:23,570 --> 00:35:26,570 the, the issuance of them. So, uh, just wanted to 194 00:35:26,570 --> 00:35:29,689 give you guys a kudos and, and let you guys know that's 195 00:35:29,770 --> 00:35:34,320 that's what we've been seeing so. Thank you. Um, yes 196 00:35:34,469 --> 00:35:37,560 Chris, thank you, uh, thank you, uh, Truste, uh, Madam 197 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,110 President, to Rodney, what is that, when you do, um 198 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,360 the interest savings that come about, what, where 199 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,679 do you, are you required to apply them back? Is there 200 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:51,560 a special account or, uh, anything related to fund 201 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,229 315 we're gonna use in our fund in that fund. OK, thank 202 00:35:55,229 --> 00:35:58,679 you. Do we have any other questions for President 203 00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,500 Stevens? Hearing none, thank you and thank you for 204 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:05,719 the kudos. It is really nice to know when you're talking 205 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,500 about this amount of dollars that there's such stewardship 206 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,739 in terms of trying to get um as many benefits as we 207 00:36:12,739 --> 00:36:16,139 can out of that. Um, so that concludes 2.03. We'll 208 00:36:16,139 --> 00:36:21,260 move on to 2.04, Mr. McLaughlin. Brandon McLaughlin 209 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,189 for the record, uh, I already gave a lot of my update 210 00:36:24,189 --> 00:36:27,669 with, uh, Chris's design update. No, no love lost 211 00:36:27,669 --> 00:36:31,459 though, it's fine. Um, the facility master plan, uh 212 00:36:31,469 --> 00:36:33,989 stakeholder engagement and community forums continue 213 00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:39,229 Uh, we are, uh, conducting 36, I believe, um, stakeholder 214 00:36:39,229 --> 00:36:41,310 advisory and community forums. We're about midway 215 00:36:41,310 --> 00:36:44,729 through them, um, and deliberately by design, about 216 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:48,070 50% of them, the first half here have been more exploratory 217 00:36:48,149 --> 00:36:50,929 Hey, here's the options, here's the data. Um, with 218 00:36:50,929 --> 00:36:53,050 community members in the second stage will be more 219 00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:55,600 about here's the things we heard and here's what we're 220 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,050 offering up and based upon what we heard, so refinement 221 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,250 of those options based upon what the initial wave 222 00:37:01,250 --> 00:37:04,199 of community feedback has been. So, um, to answer 223 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,409 your and reiterate your question earlier, yes, we 224 00:37:06,409 --> 00:37:09,540 are having great attendance at these. Uh, I think 225 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,629 I would task everyone in this room. We are all responsible 226 00:37:12,629 --> 00:37:14,899 to get our communities out there. I think if there's 227 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:17,600 words being said that a certain community isn't making 228 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,479 out to it, we have some of the greatest, I think, public 229 00:37:20,479 --> 00:37:22,719 outreach firms as a part of this team effort, and 230 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,639 so they can only take the message so far. It's, it's 231 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,639 incumbent on me. It's incumbent upon people on the 232 00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,479 dice that, uh, we let our neighbors know and if they 233 00:37:30,479 --> 00:37:32,639 have a vested interest or want to care about this 234 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040 we can invite them to the community meetings that 235 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,350 we are aware of. So, um, we continue to enter into 236 00:37:38,350 --> 00:37:40,330 this next wave where really it's about refinement 237 00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:42,709 of those draft options, preliminary draft options 238 00:37:42,709 --> 00:37:45,510 we continue to talk about, uh, and futures that don't 239 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:47,429 yet exist for some of our school buildings, whether 240 00:37:47,429 --> 00:37:50,419 that be as public education buildings or some other 241 00:37:50,419 --> 00:37:53,550 community benefit, um, so a lot of those discussions 242 00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:56,510 have been healthy and actually been very collaborative 243 00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:58,750 around what some of those other uses of our buildings 244 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:01,590 may want to become, um, so we're just grateful for 245 00:38:01,590 --> 00:38:03,669 the community members that have come out and spoken 246 00:38:03,669 --> 00:38:05,959 about this and really it's been a good. Though this 247 00:38:05,959 --> 00:38:08,459 is about the buildings, um, it really has been opening 248 00:38:08,459 --> 00:38:10,659 the doors and the eyes about things outside of the 249 00:38:10,659 --> 00:38:13,570 building and frankly within the building that have 250 00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:16,340 nothing to do with the building though, um, so we 251 00:38:16,340 --> 00:38:19,340 try to focus it, but very much it's been a good tool 252 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:22,139 to maybe leverage some, um, things that just need 253 00:38:22,139 --> 00:38:25,469 to be said, um, and so we're grateful for, for those 254 00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:28,760 conversations, but. Um, also, we're able to redirect 255 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,840 some of those comments, clarifications to long-standing 256 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,419 beliefs, thoughts, um, around maybe what's true today 257 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:37,040 So, um, I just wanted to give a simple update about 258 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 the FMP that, that they are being well attended and 259 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,100 we're grateful for this next wave of them to start 260 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,790 um, on the 27th next week that what we're calling 261 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:53,760 2.2, the, the share back tour. 2.2. So the 2.2 share 262 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,679 back tour hasn't begun yet, right? We have, uh, 3 263 00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:02,159 or 4 more events, um, it's part of the 2.1 series 264 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,909 of public engagement, um, through this week and then 265 00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:08,520 next Monday starts the 2.2, the, the second wave of 266 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,919 engagement. OK, um, was that, yeah, was that a question 267 00:39:12,919 --> 00:39:17,229 online? Uh, Nikia, was that you? You had a question 268 00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:20,449 or a comment or so I just, yeah, I just had a comment 269 00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:23,649 So I did go to the website earlier this week and the 270 00:39:23,649 --> 00:39:27,429 QR code that was on the website was not working for 271 00:39:27,689 --> 00:39:30,370 people to go to be able to sign up for those sessions 272 00:39:30,449 --> 00:39:33,850 So I did point that out to communications. So they 273 00:39:33,850 --> 00:39:36,610 did resolve that. So it should not be an issue now 274 00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:40,639 for people that are wanting to sign up to attend. Thank 275 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:46,129 you, Nikia. Um, yes, Ms. Williams. Push button on 276 00:39:46,129 --> 00:39:49,989 and off. Um, I need a tech up here to push my buttons 277 00:39:50,169 --> 00:39:54,870 Um. I have a question and this is, this is beyond 278 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:58,449 you know, I'm always forward thinking, right? Um, so 279 00:39:58,449 --> 00:40:01,489 we're capturing some really I think valuable information 280 00:40:01,489 --> 00:40:04,649 you basically raised raised the point Brandon, when 281 00:40:04,649 --> 00:40:07,250 you mentioned, you know, they're speaking about things 282 00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:10,469 outside of the building. Uh, but important feedback 283 00:40:10,469 --> 00:40:13,139 that we're getting, are we capturing that feedback 284 00:40:13,139 --> 00:40:17,379 in some way that will help to benefit us and our, our 285 00:40:17,379 --> 00:40:21,360 charge, um, around things such as, are you hearing 286 00:40:21,899 --> 00:40:24,379 I work a lot with kids, so I'm, I'm around a lot of 287 00:40:24,379 --> 00:40:28,219 the student population and so they share information 288 00:40:28,219 --> 00:40:31,659 and so the students that are attending, uh, probably 289 00:40:31,659 --> 00:40:33,979 are giving those kinds of feedback because we've tried 290 00:40:33,979 --> 00:40:36,379 to be pretty clear with them on what the purpose of 291 00:40:36,379 --> 00:40:41,500 these meetings are for, um. But if they're raising 292 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:45,729 things like outside of what this contract or this 293 00:40:45,739 --> 00:40:49,310 this work is, which is the master plan, such as maybe 294 00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:52,889 they're talking about let's just say uh security their 295 00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:55,830 their their cameras and their security system doesn't 296 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:58,750 work, it sucks. I mean, you know, that's how they 297 00:40:58,750 --> 00:41:02,429 talk. I'm talking like they speak so so are we going 298 00:41:02,429 --> 00:41:06,159 to be able to get. Are you, will your, will the consultant 299 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,810 be able to provide you with some of this kind of feedback 300 00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:12,770 information that would help inform better inform us 301 00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:16,169 in our, in our work and in our projections of future 302 00:41:16,169 --> 00:41:19,449 work and uh budget and, and all of that to be able 303 00:41:19,449 --> 00:41:22,129 to deal with some of these issues that maybe we weren't 304 00:41:22,129 --> 00:41:25,860 quite aware of. Yeah, it's actually a very timely 305 00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:27,699 discussion. Uh, we don't know what the deliverable 306 00:41:27,699 --> 00:41:30,540 would look like quite yet, but, um, just like probably 307 00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:34,179 many of you saw as a part of the strategic plan effort 308 00:41:34,179 --> 00:41:36,899 as a district-wide strategic plan, there was a 40-page 309 00:41:36,899 --> 00:41:38,939 document that was widely published about here's what 310 00:41:38,939 --> 00:41:42,060 we've heard, um, so very much we're, we're thinking 311 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:44,899 about what that document may look like in this work 312 00:41:44,899 --> 00:41:46,939 because I think, yeah, there would be a good, this 313 00:41:46,939 --> 00:41:50,719 would be a nice inflection point to really. Um, capitalize 314 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,120 on what it is we heard in this first wave moving forward 315 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,439 and what we're gonna do about it. That way if I'm 316 00:41:55,439 --> 00:41:57,560 a community member, it's not just my words empty on 317 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,040 a, on a hall or on a page that I left in some library 318 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,479 somewhere, it's, no, here's what they said and here's 319 00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:06,399 what they're actually doing with it. And so, um, before 320 00:42:06,399 --> 00:42:08,560 I conclude that, I will say there has been a lot of 321 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,159 student participation and frankly, no offense to all 322 00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:12,919 the adults in the room, the students stay focused 323 00:42:12,919 --> 00:42:16,610 better than the adults, so. They don't say my security 324 00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:19,860 camera sucks, resoundingly, they say, I love my artificial 325 00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:22,659 turf field. If I had like a, a tick box for every 326 00:42:22,659 --> 00:42:25,800 time I heard the things not to do with the building 327 00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:27,780 but enhances their student experience, that would 328 00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:30,100 be, that would be one that stands out, is we will 329 00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,449 love purposeful outdoor spaces. So, we're hoping to 330 00:42:33,449 --> 00:42:35,625 capture some of. That, um, within it, but they've 331 00:42:35,824 --> 00:42:38,625 some of the student groups have had fantastic responses 332 00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:41,735 to that column D of what else should we be considering 333 00:42:42,024 --> 00:42:43,665 Hey, have you guys thought about improving the courtyard 334 00:42:43,665 --> 00:42:45,415 of my building? Leave the rest of it alone, but we 335 00:42:45,415 --> 00:42:47,405 just want somewhere to go outside of these four walls 336 00:42:47,824 --> 00:42:49,614 Um, that's the type of stuff we want to capture and 337 00:42:49,705 --> 00:42:51,504 and we'll try to produce that in the next couple of 338 00:42:51,504 --> 00:42:57,060 weeks. Great, thank you. Important information. Yes 339 00:42:57,169 --> 00:43:00,060 Chris, um, thank you. Yeah, I think they got off to 340 00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:03,060 a slow start, not that the, the company that we hired 341 00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:05,060 or you all hired, they've done a phenomenal job, and 342 00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:08,479 I have to say. Very well informed, good presentation 343 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,639 excellent discussion. Uh, Rick was at our last one 344 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:14,760 at SHAP, and, and I just, uh, it made me feel that 345 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,719 if the public took time to engage, they would feel 346 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,909 much more comfortable about what the district's doing 347 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,239 I'd heard criticisms, you know, 2 people here, 3 people 348 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,280 there, then we heard MAPA, SHAP, and a couple other 349 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,040 ones. So I think it's mountingly starting to get into 350 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,239 people's minds. Um, I know I'm gonna go, go to one 351 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:40,209 in May, but, um, in, in. The real world, we, I don't 352 00:43:40,209 --> 00:43:42,449 want people to be afraid and that you can't control 353 00:43:42,449 --> 00:43:44,879 the press, but the way the press was initially rolling 354 00:43:44,879 --> 00:43:48,649 out the workshops and the meetings was as if every 355 00:43:48,649 --> 00:43:51,050 school was going to be closed in Clark County and 356 00:43:51,050 --> 00:43:54,610 how dare you waste money and it just was not. What 357 00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:57,610 that's typical of some of the press in in in reality 358 00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:00,830 so I'm glad to hear that there's actual documentation 359 00:44:00,830 --> 00:44:03,449 that we can show the people have been actually engaged 360 00:44:03,449 --> 00:44:06,669 and have made certain recommendations, um, and so 361 00:44:06,669 --> 00:44:09,550 forth. Some things we heard, um, I heard, and I don't 362 00:44:09,629 --> 00:44:12,510 I have to remember that Fremont was supposed to have 363 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,669 been a K-8 and someplace that changed, but I remember 364 00:44:15,669 --> 00:44:18,060 the public had wanted that. And I don't know where 365 00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:20,780 that disconnect came in, but that's just something 366 00:44:20,780 --> 00:44:23,699 to file that might come back up at some point to say 367 00:44:23,699 --> 00:44:26,159 what did, why did, why did they ignore what the public 368 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,100 recommended at that time versus what was there. The 369 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,260 facility is great, it's up the street for me, but 370 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,979 I, I, I went to the meetings and the parents were 371 00:44:33,979 --> 00:44:37,899 very, very adamant about what they wanted. But mostly 372 00:44:37,899 --> 00:44:41,540 it was don't move our kids out of here. Um, so that 373 00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:45,719 was just part one. Part two, it came up at our. At 374 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:51,429 SHP last week has ASAC. Has the district actually 375 00:44:51,429 --> 00:44:54,870 returned all students back to their neighborhood schools 376 00:44:55,750 --> 00:45:00,879 Through Through, um, zoning. In other words, because 377 00:45:00,879 --> 00:45:03,639 it's going to come up with the west side, um, and 378 00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:06,719 I talked briefly to Senator Neil at the time, you 379 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719 don't want to lose the, the, the recommendations and 380 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600 the neighborhood field that was recommended from the 381 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,399 original DSEG, for example, and that conversation 382 00:45:15,739 --> 00:45:19,540 Came up in our small group is have we now at least 383 00:45:19,540 --> 00:45:22,620 could we comfortably say all kids within their school 384 00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:24,540 zone, that's where they, their neighborhood is and 385 00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:26,919 that's where they're they would normally be assigned 386 00:45:27,179 --> 00:45:29,780 rather than their them being assigned to a school 387 00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:32,860 where they're already bussed to. And so I don't know 388 00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:35,199 the answer to that, but that's another thing to maybe 389 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,840 think about with staff because that may come back 390 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,639 up at some point in time as well. Hogarth's an example 391 00:45:43,129 --> 00:45:46,540 They're bus to my neighborhood miles away. Yeah. And 392 00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:49,459 if, so if, if you're going to do, if we're going to 393 00:45:49,459 --> 00:45:51,780 do something as a district, that should be a number 394 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:54,300 one goal is to return those kids to their neighborhood 395 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,020 schools before you look at where they're being bussed 396 00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:59,540 to, I guess is really what I'm trying to say. Thank 397 00:45:59,540 --> 00:46:03,199 you. Yeah, I think we can follow up on a lot of that 398 00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:06,120 I, I will say as a result of some of the public comment 399 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,679 we heard, um, in March, we did begin to explore some 400 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,000 of that, and yeah, there's a very, very low that are 401 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,540 still opting to attend their out of neighborhood zone 402 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:18,679 areas, but that's something, yeah, the facility master 403 00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,719 plan may start to peek into, and yeah, many of them 404 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,399 are choosing to stay within their more neighborhood 405 00:46:24,399 --> 00:46:27,050 schools at this point, so. If that's culturally what's 406 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:29,610 going on, maybe we just have a recommendation. Maybe 407 00:46:29,610 --> 00:46:33,830 we acknowledge that if that's the case, but truly 408 00:46:34,449 --> 00:46:36,649 the recommendation had been done as we phased out 409 00:46:36,649 --> 00:46:40,060 of the DSEG was all kids should really be zoned for 410 00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:42,629 their school in their neighborhood and. Then you work 411 00:46:42,629 --> 00:46:46,300 on where your population is causing the need for additional 412 00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:49,699 overcrowdings and so on and so forth without the bussing 413 00:46:49,699 --> 00:46:51,790 component if you've returned them at least to their 414 00:46:51,790 --> 00:46:55,110 neighborhood school and so that was the conversation 415 00:46:55,110 --> 00:46:58,489 that I think we'd want to make sure that we were promoting 416 00:46:58,979 --> 00:47:02,229 um, at least that came up in our resoundingly in the 417 00:47:02,229 --> 00:47:06,959 group I was working with. Thank you. Yes, Yvette. Just 418 00:47:06,959 --> 00:47:11,260 piggybacking off of Chris's comments, um. I think 419 00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:14,500 just going back to what the community has always said 420 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:17,219 they wanted, particularly on the west side, is they 421 00:47:17,219 --> 00:47:19,899 want high performing schools and so if this, if the 422 00:47:19,899 --> 00:47:22,100 plan, if the whole purpose of the baster plan I guess 423 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,020 is what I'm saying to wrap this up in a nice little 424 00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:28,260 bow, if that's the plan is to create a, a destination 425 00:47:28,659 --> 00:47:31,739 uh, for students at their school, then each school 426 00:47:31,739 --> 00:47:34,419 should be a destination school then they shouldn't 427 00:47:34,419 --> 00:47:38,280 need to be bussed and so going to what you're saying 428 00:47:38,419 --> 00:47:43,030 and so I think, um. I think with good planning and 429 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,090 and we'd be able to do that and provide them with 430 00:47:45,090 --> 00:47:47,320 a a fantastic school so they don't have to go to a 431 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,129 gray elementary um from the west side because they 432 00:47:51,129 --> 00:47:55,010 have a that kind of program in their neighborhood 433 00:47:55,209 --> 00:47:57,959 at their neighborhood school so that was it. I just 434 00:47:57,959 --> 00:48:02,679 wanted to kinda tie that together. Thank you. Do we 435 00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:06,500 have any other further comment from online or in person 436 00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:11,389 Um, I will say I appreciate these conversations. I've 437 00:48:11,389 --> 00:48:15,250 long been a, a, a big proponent of a, of a town hall 438 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:19,070 uh, sort of conversation. I find that in general when 439 00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:21,750 people are able to get their questions answered if 440 00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:24,750 they feel a bigger trust in the process versus the 441 00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:27,429 public comment that happens in a meeting that we're 442 00:48:27,429 --> 00:48:31,620 required to. Sort of be uh neutral about so to be 443 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:34,739 able to have a feedback and a conversation where then 444 00:48:34,739 --> 00:48:39,100 people are able to see their comments and suggestions 445 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,580 being incorporated into future decision making is 446 00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:44,899 a really positive thing um I also appreciate your 447 00:48:44,899 --> 00:48:49,270 nod to talking about that I know from from. The school's 448 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:52,760 point of view, the idea of being siloed in terms of 449 00:48:52,909 --> 00:48:55,939 hey, this is our our conversation about construction 450 00:48:55,939 --> 00:48:58,669 and facility master plan, and it's not necessarily 451 00:48:58,669 --> 00:49:00,429 about some of these other things, but knowing that 452 00:49:00,429 --> 00:49:03,070 the public will take advantage of any opportunity 453 00:49:03,070 --> 00:49:07,330 to sort of interact with, with uh. With people from 454 00:49:07,330 --> 00:49:10,610 CCSD, I'm really glad that the trustees have continued 455 00:49:10,610 --> 00:49:13,449 their sort of dream reach outs and the way that these 456 00:49:13,449 --> 00:49:17,250 incorporate so the way in which any of these outreaches 457 00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:20,169 to the community continue to try and share whatever 458 00:49:20,169 --> 00:49:23,070 information you get that is pertinent to other departments 459 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:25,439 if they get information that becomes pertinent to 460 00:49:25,439 --> 00:49:28,239 facilities that there continues to be hopefully informa 461 00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:31,090 information sharing on the back end because the public 462 00:49:31,090 --> 00:49:35,350 doesn't necessarily. Make those same kind of distinctions 463 00:49:35,350 --> 00:49:40,070 that are in the departments um and my only other question 464 00:49:40,070 --> 00:49:43,110 when it comes to this is I know one thing that we 465 00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,709 tried to do in the past was really engage the SOTs 466 00:49:46,709 --> 00:49:49,729 as a method of reaching out to some of the most engaged 467 00:49:50,110 --> 00:49:53,110 parent communities and and teacher communities at 468 00:49:53,110 --> 00:49:56,780 each of these schools. I don't know if the outreach 469 00:49:56,780 --> 00:50:01,489 plan has commu has. Involved a deliberate outreach 470 00:50:01,489 --> 00:50:04,129 through the SOT channels. I don't know if that's a 471 00:50:04,129 --> 00:50:07,169 question that you can answer, um, but if not, I would 472 00:50:07,169 --> 00:50:11,570 hope that, um, we do incorporate using those those 473 00:50:11,570 --> 00:50:15,739 channels to sort of reach out, uh, in that way. Do 474 00:50:15,739 --> 00:50:18,540 you know if they've reached out deliberately to SOTs 475 00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:22,110 Brandon McLaughlin, we have not utilized the SOT pathway 476 00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,649 though I will say a vast majority of our, uh, stakeholder 477 00:50:25,649 --> 00:50:28,340 advisories, as well as our community forums are intended 478 00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:32,459 by SOT members. Uh, and why that is, is the SOTs have 479 00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:34,739 a clear and distinct route. We wanna make sure that 480 00:50:34,739 --> 00:50:37,120 they stay focused on what their route is, and that's 481 00:50:37,739 --> 00:50:40,179 operational management with in partnership with the 482 00:50:40,179 --> 00:50:43,770 school principal and so. I think infusing things like 483 00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:47,090 facilities into it though it's germane to it, uh, I 484 00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:50,750 think merely just derails that conversation between 485 00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:54,929 parents and, and the principal, but again, all of 486 00:50:54,929 --> 00:50:57,530 those members are free to attend the community forums 487 00:50:57,530 --> 00:51:00,409 and a vast majority of them are on stakeholder advisory 488 00:51:00,409 --> 00:51:03,010 groups, so I'm certain that voice is coming through 489 00:51:03,010 --> 00:51:06,350 loud and clear. Um, yeah, and it's not so much it's 490 00:51:06,350 --> 00:51:11,439 more of. Having sat on SOT for several years, having 491 00:51:11,439 --> 00:51:15,350 also been a part of the PTA, um, including leaning 492 00:51:15,350 --> 00:51:17,830 that, those are, those are the groups that involve 493 00:51:17,830 --> 00:51:21,020 those stakeholders and are often a communication conduit 494 00:51:21,110 --> 00:51:24,229 so I have just found that in our experience in reaching 495 00:51:24,229 --> 00:51:27,709 out, the closer you can get to the population you 496 00:51:27,709 --> 00:51:30,830 want to respond. And and those are the people that 497 00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:33,350 reach out to their community and say hey make sure 498 00:51:33,350 --> 00:51:38,110 you're doing this um I think it's it's more of a of 499 00:51:38,110 --> 00:51:41,389 a communication strategy and how we outreach to those 500 00:51:41,389 --> 00:51:44,389 schools beyond just Facebook or or emails or one of 501 00:51:44,389 --> 00:51:47,479 those other things if we. If we have a communication 502 00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:50,540 strategy that includes reaching out to SOTs and or 503 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,860 PTAs slash PTOs, that that is another method of just 504 00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,560 getting the word out about the existence of these 505 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,600 meetings more than just what's on Facebook or what 506 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,629 comes from the district themselves. Um Any other comments 507 00:52:06,629 --> 00:52:12,280 on 2.04? Do you have any other topic under that, Mr 508 00:52:12,290 --> 00:52:17,310 McLaughlin? All right, we shall move on to 2.05. Take 509 00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:22,159 it away, Mr. Fouts. Rodney Fels, for the record, uh 510 00:52:22,290 --> 00:52:24,830 there's not much to report this month of February 511 00:52:25,409 --> 00:52:27,929 Uh, as I've stated, our last issuance took place in 512 00:52:27,929 --> 00:52:31,370 March, which we'll be reporting next month. Uh, Essentially 513 00:52:31,409 --> 00:52:35,770 we're at $4.4 billion in resources. We have expense 514 00:52:35,770 --> 00:52:41,449 to date just under $4.2 billion with $303 million 515 00:52:41,489 --> 00:52:45,239 which is encumbered. Uh, if you take those two numbers 516 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,040 together, that comes to just under $4.5 billion. So 517 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,280 our current cash flow is $232 million. However, again 518 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,139 as I state, when you take in those encumbered funds 519 00:52:57,479 --> 00:53:01,040 we would actually be in the negative with about $71 520 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,320 million. Again, because the funds are encumbered, that 521 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,679 doesn't mean that we spent those funds. It just shows 522 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:13,800 that we have that obligation for the future. Yes, Chris 523 00:53:13,979 --> 00:53:18,020 Rodney, when, when do you unencumber? How long do 524 00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:20,979 you keep that encumbered number on a facility like 525 00:53:20,979 --> 00:53:25,239 say you've finished Doris Hancock, when do you then 526 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:29,010 close that out and start your new clean? Well, essentially 527 00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:31,540 in a construction contract, we're going to encumber 528 00:53:31,540 --> 00:53:34,939 the full amount of that contract. So once we pay that 529 00:53:34,939 --> 00:53:37,540 final pay up, that amount should have already been 530 00:53:37,540 --> 00:53:40,050 expensed the majority of it and been unencumbered 531 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:43,219 as we go along and make those payments. However, the 532 00:53:43,219 --> 00:53:45,939 last piece of that wouldn't occur until we actually 533 00:53:45,939 --> 00:53:49,139 close that payment out. And if obviously if we can 534 00:53:49,659 --> 00:53:51,739 get some kind of surprise where we have some savings 535 00:53:51,739 --> 00:53:54,459 in the contract or whatever, we will then realize 536 00:53:54,459 --> 00:53:58,580 those savings, uh, back to the fund as well. OK, so 537 00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:01,620 you can reallocate once you've done that unencumbered 538 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,580 component. And that's there in case when you do your 539 00:54:04,580 --> 00:54:06,520 final, you've done a walkthrough and then you went 540 00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:10,060 oh, they didn't have, um, sinks on the 2nd floor at 541 00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:14,679 the high school on, yeah, anyway, and then you can 542 00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:18,600 use that that encumbered amount to fix that problem 543 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239 Well, actually it should already be encumbered for 544 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,840 the problems that exist because we have to do a punch 545 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,959 list and that punch list is to go out and say, please 546 00:54:26,959 --> 00:54:28,879 take care of these items that we've found that needs 547 00:54:28,879 --> 00:54:32,270 to be taken care of. Uh, essentially, when they have 548 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:34,429 completed all those tasks and everybody's satisfied 549 00:54:34,429 --> 00:54:36,270 with the work they have, then that's when we're gonna 550 00:54:36,590 --> 00:54:38,860 sign off on the final pay up and make the final payment 551 00:54:38,989 --> 00:54:40,939 And the principals weigh in on the punch list too 552 00:54:40,989 --> 00:54:45,199 if I recall correctly. And then if it was a design 553 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:48,129 flaw, then you notify staff internally that they screwed 554 00:54:48,129 --> 00:54:50,800 up as the architects and didn't have sinks for the 555 00:54:50,979 --> 00:54:54,530 janitor to be able to do whatever they do or something 556 00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:57,139 along those lines. Is that correct? Yeah, our principals 557 00:54:57,139 --> 00:55:00,209 contribute to that punch list, but rightfully so that 558 00:55:00,209 --> 00:55:03,070 actually resides with the architect and engineer, but 559 00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:06,580 we seek that input from the principal for sure. Because 560 00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:09,459 sometimes they know programming wise what triggers 561 00:55:09,459 --> 00:55:12,340 things versus what an architect or engineer might 562 00:55:12,340 --> 00:55:15,969 even be looking for thank you. Thank you. Do we have 563 00:55:15,969 --> 00:55:20,760 any other? Yes, Mr. Jones. How long do we hold retention 564 00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:25,739 Essentially we keep the retention until we get to 565 00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:29,459 that last, get to the last pay up, then we release 566 00:55:29,459 --> 00:55:31,590 the last bit of retention and take care of those as 567 00:55:31,590 --> 00:55:36,050 well at the same time. So do we hold it for, say for 568 00:55:36,050 --> 00:55:38,860 instance on the punch list we will, we will get the 569 00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:40,969 retention from the beginning of the contract based 570 00:55:40,969 --> 00:55:43,100 upon what the contract value is and then set it aside 571 00:55:43,419 --> 00:55:48,350 OK, thank you. Thank you, Walter. Do I have any comments 572 00:55:48,350 --> 00:55:54,870 from or questions from online? Um, I, the, um, I have 573 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:59,070 no questions on, on this document in particular, um 574 00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:01,469 and if you want I can put it under a future agenda 575 00:56:01,469 --> 00:56:03,300 item, but I was hoping that maybe we could get that 576 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:07,189 more expanded, um, school by school, uh, capital summary 577 00:56:07,189 --> 00:56:12,370 report, um, for next meeting. It's been. A while, so 578 00:56:12,370 --> 00:56:16,290 it'll be nice to overlook that school by school document 579 00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:22,360 again. Um, all right, that concludes 2.05. We can 580 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,520 move on to 2.06. This is regulation 7112 review. This 581 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,159 is for possible action. So, um, I know there's a lot 582 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,840 of numbers. I even when I was trying to describe all 583 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,159 this to everyone, I, it can get lost in the numbers 584 00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:40,149 but let, uh, um, Brandon, would you like to give a 585 00:56:40,149 --> 00:56:42,520 summary of how we've gotten to this point so far, or 586 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,790 would you like me to start that off? Madam Chair, you 587 00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:50,659 can start. I shouldn't have made that an either or 588 00:56:50,669 --> 00:56:52,830 I should have just gone to you. I'll learn my lesson 589 00:56:52,830 --> 00:56:56,250 for the for the future. So as we are reviewing our 590 00:56:56,250 --> 00:56:58,469 regulations and policies that affect bond Oversight 591 00:56:58,469 --> 00:57:01,949 Committee, um, several years back, uh, regulation 592 00:57:01,949 --> 00:57:04,909 7112, uh, came to our attention. I believe this was 593 00:57:04,909 --> 00:57:08,070 even back when Mr. Goins was our chair, so this is 594 00:57:08,070 --> 00:57:10,399 going back quite some time. Uh, through different 595 00:57:10,399 --> 00:57:13,600 chairs and through different facility heads, um, at 596 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,479 the time Ms. Williams and I were a part of a, of a 597 00:57:16,479 --> 00:57:20,159 group that, that worked to get some of this language 598 00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:24,729 changed then. This may have been, was it last year 599 00:57:24,729 --> 00:57:26,919 or 2 years ago that we brought this up? You brought 600 00:57:26,919 --> 00:57:30,889 this up initially to the board of, uh, bond oversight 601 00:57:30,889 --> 00:57:34,889 committee to review. Now this is going into the final 602 00:57:34,889 --> 00:57:39,169 review process where it can then move into where it 603 00:57:39,489 --> 00:57:41,790 becomes recommended to the board of school trustees 604 00:57:42,439 --> 00:57:45,560 Uh, so, uh, right, and so our action item today is 605 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,919 to make a recommendation as to going along that process 606 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,280 I just wanna make sure that I understand what you're 607 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,850 asking this bond committee to do. Yes, uh, I'll try 608 00:57:56,850 --> 00:57:59,330 to synthesize a little bit of that of what I, I need 609 00:57:59,330 --> 00:58:01,939 to cover with this. So, um, district regulation and 610 00:58:01,939 --> 00:58:04,649 policies are put forward in align with the governance 611 00:58:04,649 --> 00:58:07,239 policies of how those are brought forward. It's basically 612 00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,530 a compact between the superintendent and her staff 613 00:58:09,530 --> 00:58:11,969 and the board. Um, so you guys are recommending a 614 00:58:11,969 --> 00:58:14,250 body to the board of school trustees in that regard 615 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,649 And so yes, we started down this path in 2022, some 616 00:58:17,649 --> 00:58:21,669 workshopping, uh, we brought this forward for discussion 617 00:58:21,879 --> 00:58:27,070 and it actually dates back to June of 2024. Um, we're 618 00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:29,800 very much in alignment with most of the markings you 619 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,399 see here are reflective of some of the feedback we 620 00:58:32,399 --> 00:58:35,040 heard from both with the workshopping. This group 621 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,239 did as well as, um, ahead of that. Um, so really today 622 00:58:39,250 --> 00:58:41,879 this has been workshopped with you guys in June of 623 00:58:41,879 --> 00:58:45,270 2024. Our executive leadership team of the district 624 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:48,239 has reviewed and approved these recommendations and 625 00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:53,449 so with your guys' um, Nod to this today. We'll then 626 00:58:53,449 --> 00:58:55,750 include that recommendation as a part of what we recommend 627 00:58:56,169 --> 00:58:58,570 on behalf of district staff to the board, um, at a 628 00:58:58,570 --> 00:59:01,709 forthcoming, uh, school board of trustees meeting 629 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,889 Uh, the process for this is it gets read as a notice 630 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:07,969 of intent at one meeting, no less than 30 days after 631 00:59:07,969 --> 00:59:10,169 that, it goes for final action, which is on a consent 632 00:59:10,169 --> 00:59:14,260 agenda item. So, um, tentatively, I believe the second 633 00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:18,699 meeting in May, we anticipate this being a notice 634 00:59:18,699 --> 00:59:21,300 of intent where I will read very consistent with what 635 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,320 I share with you here today, and then barring any 636 00:59:24,439 --> 00:59:28,909 um, crazy action not taken on the item, and that's 637 00:59:29,020 --> 00:59:31,899 absolutely a possibility, but, um, barring approval 638 00:59:31,899 --> 00:59:34,979 there, we would then solicit this the tail end of 639 00:59:34,979 --> 00:59:39,179 June, if not the July meeting for final action as 640 00:59:39,179 --> 00:59:43,379 a consent agenda item. So. Uh, as we get into the 641 00:59:43,379 --> 00:59:47,879 regulation, um, none of this should really be a surprise 642 00:59:47,969 --> 00:59:50,620 A lot of it is just cleaning up common practices we 643 00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:54,250 already do and are already prioritizing workarounds 644 00:59:54,340 --> 00:59:57,060 so it's really just making, um, our current practices 645 00:59:57,060 --> 01:00:02,199 in align with the regulations. So, um, item one, simply 646 01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:04,939 clarifying the district's capital master plan and 647 01:00:04,939 --> 01:00:08,070 really distinguishing the CIP. Separate and apart 648 01:00:08,070 --> 01:00:11,050 from the capital or the facility master plan, there 649 01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:14,209 are two different mechanisms of how we track work 650 01:00:14,989 --> 01:00:17,389 Um, the second paragraph down, we include the age 651 01:00:17,389 --> 01:00:20,060 of the facility as a decision point, whether to renovate 652 01:00:20,060 --> 01:00:23,989 or replace. Uh, we roll down to Roman numeral number 653 01:00:23,989 --> 01:00:28,030 2, item A. Uh, the facility's division hasn't existed 654 01:00:28,030 --> 01:00:32,129 since, I don't know, I think 2019, 2018, I think, last 655 01:00:32,669 --> 01:00:37,639 um, so updating the title of the unit. Um, then adding 656 01:00:37,689 --> 01:00:40,570 I know we've commonly spoken about the we conduct 657 01:00:40,570 --> 01:00:44,590 facility assessments on 20% of our inventory every 658 01:00:45,129 --> 01:00:48,219 year. That way over 5 years' time, all of our facilities 659 01:00:48,219 --> 01:00:51,010 are assessed, and so that's just codifying a lot of 660 01:00:51,010 --> 01:00:53,610 that practice that we're already doing, given current 661 01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:59,229 staffing allocation. Uh, if we turn to page 2. It 662 01:00:59,229 --> 01:01:02,810 really speaks again to the 50 year lifespan we anticipate 663 01:01:02,810 --> 01:01:07,610 our buildings to have. So we don't want to necessarily 664 01:01:07,610 --> 01:01:10,010 replace our buildings if they're not 50 years or older 665 01:01:10,010 --> 01:01:11,750 because we didn't get the useful life out of them 666 01:01:12,370 --> 01:01:15,050 If they're less than 50 years old and close to that 667 01:01:15,050 --> 01:01:17,409 0.6, well, that means they're potentially a great 668 01:01:17,409 --> 01:01:22,229 candidate for renovation or extensive repairs. Um 669 01:01:22,270 --> 01:01:26,590 we also then in item 2 here on page 24, we talk about 670 01:01:26,590 --> 01:01:29,709 the program analysis shall consider facility age, percent 671 01:01:29,709 --> 01:01:32,260 of students enrolled versus program capacity, and 672 01:01:32,260 --> 01:01:34,810 whether portable classrooms are required to accommodate 673 01:01:35,149 --> 01:01:37,389 the current educational specifications. So it's kind 674 01:01:37,389 --> 01:01:41,030 of adding that anecdotal or qualitative side to how 675 01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:44,330 it is we prioritize capital dollars. More often than 676 01:01:44,330 --> 01:01:46,570 not we hear, how can you replace this when you've 677 01:01:46,570 --> 01:01:48,639 got this other thing over here with all these portables 678 01:01:48,689 --> 01:01:50,929 right? And so it speaks exactly to that, how do we 679 01:01:50,929 --> 01:01:54,969 get seats in brick and mortar spaces ahead of maybe 680 01:01:54,969 --> 01:02:02,919 other priorities. We then go to page 3, this is item 681 01:02:02,919 --> 01:02:07,620 C, number 1, item A, and you'll see this twice actually 682 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:12,679 um, the weight of critical systems that have the potential 683 01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:15,479 to interrupt instruction are prioritized and weighed 684 01:02:15,479 --> 01:02:18,350 heavier, because we don't want to interrupt that daily 685 01:02:18,350 --> 01:02:21,800 instruction, so it gives a greater weight to vital 686 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,719 systems such as the HVAC system, the roofing system 687 01:02:24,830 --> 01:02:27,760 plumbing systems, electrical systems. And exterior 688 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,919 envelope. So those are our high priority areas where 689 01:02:30,919 --> 01:02:34,600 if those one of those four things are the issue, they 690 01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:39,080 they weigh into the priority a bit differently. Uh 691 01:02:41,209 --> 01:02:46,969 again, you see the anecdotal area in item C1D, speaking 692 01:02:46,969 --> 01:02:50,810 to the amount of portable classrooms, percentage of 693 01:02:50,810 --> 01:02:53,409 students enrolled versus program capacity, how, how 694 01:02:53,409 --> 01:02:55,870 utilizes the building as well as the facility age 695 01:02:57,270 --> 01:03:00,629 Item E, we also gave the nod to many of our students 696 01:03:00,629 --> 01:03:03,469 don't have the luxury of having their parents be their 697 01:03:03,469 --> 01:03:06,989 primary careers or uh caretakers, so acknowledging 698 01:03:06,989 --> 01:03:09,110 guardians within it was an important acknowledgement 699 01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:13,120 from some of our school personnel. Uh, last but not 700 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:19,310 least, um, item, I believe this was E, I'm on page 701 01:03:19,310 --> 01:03:22,830 4. It's in continuation, um, but the region superintendent's 702 01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:26,790 input, um, they may bring items forward to the bond 703 01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:28,659 Oversight Committee and school board of trustees, and 704 01:03:28,659 --> 01:03:31,790 oftentimes already they're just working directly with 705 01:03:31,790 --> 01:03:35,030 me as region leaders, um, with our facilities team 706 01:03:35,030 --> 01:03:37,909 about any public community input or exemptions that 707 01:03:37,909 --> 01:03:40,459 they're seeking. Um, so we're just codifying what 708 01:03:40,459 --> 01:03:43,750 that current process is as well. So I'll stop there 709 01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:46,669 for any questions, but yes, we are seeking recommendation 710 01:03:46,669 --> 01:03:48,459 to present this to the board of school trustees at 711 01:03:48,459 --> 01:03:51,570 their next scheduled meeting. Thank you, Mr. McLaughlin 712 01:03:51,689 --> 01:03:55,290 Um, Chris, thank you, very helpful because I wasn't 713 01:03:55,290 --> 01:04:01,530 around on in 24. So on page, um, around section. I'm 714 01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:05,649 sorry, Section 2A, the facilities over 40 years of 715 01:04:05,649 --> 01:04:09,290 age, how does, can you give me an example of how that 716 01:04:09,290 --> 01:04:14,320 works? You, how do you get to 20%? Do you look at 717 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,120 all, all the buildings on a campus? Do you look at 718 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,560 some of the buildings on the campus? Some may be older 719 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,560 than others? How, how does that 20% work? No, that's 720 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,040 a good question. Uh, it's 20% of our active sites 721 01:04:26,149 --> 01:04:31,419 We have 442 sites, I believe. Um, so we'll go to 20% 722 01:04:31,419 --> 01:04:33,419 of those throughout the year and we assess the entirety 723 01:04:33,419 --> 01:04:36,020 of that facility, but we only do that every 5 years 724 01:04:36,139 --> 01:04:40,340 OK, so it's the total site or the site in total is 725 01:04:40,419 --> 01:04:42,540 is considered because sometimes you can have older 726 01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:45,209 buildings and younger buildings on the same site. That 727 01:04:45,209 --> 01:04:48,699 doesn't figure in yet. On this component. It does 728 01:04:48,709 --> 01:04:52,070 and it speaks to, I believe the, the area that's in 729 01:04:52,070 --> 01:04:54,219 C, but that's already a preexisting process and the 730 01:04:54,219 --> 01:04:57,370 example on page 4, there is Boulder City High School 731 01:04:57,629 --> 01:05:01,989 where you've got Western High School being correct 732 01:05:01,989 --> 01:05:05,129 here, um. Yeah, the, the FCIs are very across all 733 01:05:05,129 --> 01:05:07,129 those buildings, and I'd venture to guess many of 734 01:05:07,129 --> 01:05:09,600 those FCIs are actually out of date because it's just 735 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,250 an example purpose, but that it's, it's illustrate 736 01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:15,449 exactly that you've got 0.5, you've got 0.05, and 737 01:05:15,449 --> 01:05:18,689 that's the items that then get presented to the BOC 738 01:05:18,689 --> 01:05:21,209 here when you have those sorts of inconsistencies 739 01:05:21,409 --> 01:05:25,530 OK. And then the all facilities over 40 years old 740 01:05:25,929 --> 01:05:28,129 I think Wendell Williams and I. I added that language 741 01:05:28,129 --> 01:05:30,510 to my bond rollover back in the day so that we were 742 01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:33,189 looking at older facilities and not just keeping up 743 01:05:33,189 --> 01:05:36,030 with growth where they got the newer facilities at 744 01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:39,270 the expense of the older areas. So that's still there 745 01:05:39,469 --> 01:05:42,629 Um, can you give us an example of historical significance 746 01:05:42,750 --> 01:05:45,149 My only understanding is Good Springs is the only 747 01:05:45,149 --> 01:05:47,570 one with any kind of a historical designation, but 748 01:05:47,870 --> 01:05:50,550 maybe Boulder City is. I don't know. Do we have a 749 01:05:50,550 --> 01:05:55,320 list of. Anybody that fits that sentence, to my knowledge 750 01:05:55,389 --> 01:05:58,080 there's only two campuses that have historical designations 751 01:05:58,169 --> 01:06:01,520 so it's Good Springs, as well as 2 or 3 buildings 752 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,479 rather on Las Vegas Academy's campus. Academy, yeah 753 01:06:04,590 --> 01:06:08,689 the, the main hall, the existing library, and Frasier 754 01:06:08,689 --> 01:06:11,929 are all on. Either national or state designation, OK 755 01:06:11,979 --> 01:06:15,379 and so the remodel or that's or the replacement portion 756 01:06:15,379 --> 01:06:18,060 of LVA, for example, that's happening right now, you 757 01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,979 do keep the historical significance of the front of 758 01:06:20,979 --> 01:06:23,639 the building and, and the art deco and all that part 759 01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:26,860 of it, right? Brandon McLaughlinn? Yes, we have actually 760 01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:29,620 given multiple presentations to the Las Vegas Historical 761 01:06:29,620 --> 01:06:31,939 Preservation Society and continue to meet with Bob 762 01:06:31,939 --> 01:06:35,290 Stallhl and Senator Bryant. Because yes, we are now 763 01:06:35,290 --> 01:06:39,370 entering phase 2B design, which is the historic renovation 764 01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:42,649 of Main, Frasier and the library. So that's right 765 01:06:42,649 --> 01:06:46,110 at the forefront of where we're. OK, good. Um, second 766 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:54,469 portion is. Question on page 2, sub 2 program analysis 767 01:06:56,030 --> 01:06:59,040 The way it reads, it's as if every campus has portables 768 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:06,370 I'm going to suggest there and. Um, on in CD to add 769 01:07:06,370 --> 01:07:09,409 the term, if any, because it just, if you're looking 770 01:07:09,409 --> 01:07:13,419 longer term for some of this, you might want to. Because 771 01:07:13,419 --> 01:07:15,739 some people reading it would assume, oh, every school 772 01:07:15,739 --> 01:07:18,810 has portables, and that's not necessarily true. Just 773 01:07:19,399 --> 01:07:23,560 for thought. And then in C1A, do we consider solar 774 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,360 under electricity? Is that considered a component 775 01:07:29,409 --> 01:07:31,590 I mean, yes, solar generates electricity. I don't 776 01:07:31,590 --> 01:07:35,530 wanna underestimate that, but the statement of this 777 01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:38,010 was more intended for what has the potential to close 778 01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:41,489 the school. And so in my mind, solar, if a solar panels 779 01:07:41,489 --> 01:07:44,129 out, that doesn't, that's not gonna affect the operation 780 01:07:44,209 --> 01:07:47,689 OK, I see what you're at. And then let's see. And 781 01:07:47,689 --> 01:07:50,530 then in C, annual operating costs by changing from 782 01:07:50,530 --> 01:07:58,149 will to May, then what happens? What do you mean? Well 783 01:07:58,209 --> 01:08:01,239 it says expresses a cost per square foot and will 784 01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:04,600 be used to adjust priority. If you adopt this change 785 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,070 may be used to adjust the priority. And if it, what 786 01:08:09,070 --> 01:08:15,199 happens if it isn't used to adjust the priority. I 787 01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:17,310 don't, I'm trying to understand why you're going from 788 01:08:18,169 --> 01:08:20,930 strict to unstrict and then what the impact of that 789 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:23,970 is. I think this is, and, and I'd have to go back 790 01:08:23,970 --> 01:08:27,169 on, uh, uh, when this recommendation was brought forward 791 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,529 which group of ours, uh, brought it forward. I wanna 792 01:08:29,529 --> 01:08:33,259 say this has been here for quite a while and. Um, more 793 01:08:33,259 --> 01:08:36,950 often than not, I'd say this enters the conversation 794 01:08:36,990 --> 01:08:39,370 but it doesn't necessarily drive the prioritization 795 01:08:39,509 --> 01:08:42,350 A lot of these other pieces will, and so instead of 796 01:08:42,350 --> 01:08:44,910 violating one of our regulations, it's just one component 797 01:08:44,910 --> 01:08:46,620 of many. It just gives you a little more flexibility 798 01:08:47,390 --> 01:08:50,740 OK, that, that makes sense. And I think those are 799 01:08:50,740 --> 01:08:54,060 my questions. Thank you. Thank you. If I can just 800 01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:56,720 to capture what it is your recommendation was, so 801 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,419 on that this examination shock consider statement 802 01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:02,689 right? You're saying and portable classrooms, comma 803 01:09:02,859 --> 01:09:06,109 if any, comma, required, and the same thing in CD 804 01:09:06,109 --> 01:09:09,870 if you adopt that language. Thank you. Thank you, Ms 805 01:09:10,049 --> 01:09:16,469 Williams. Thank you, madam. Um. Couple of things. One 806 01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:19,608 first off, I wanna just say express my excitement 807 01:09:19,608 --> 01:09:23,849 about seeing the portable classrooms specifically identified 808 01:09:23,849 --> 01:09:28,290 in, in this policy. So thank you for that. Um, in 809 01:09:28,290 --> 01:09:33,729 section one, overall, I, I guess what I'm, what I'm 810 01:09:33,850 --> 01:09:40,108 I'm, I'm, Missing here would like to, to maybe, um 811 01:09:41,168 --> 01:09:45,640 maybe I'm just, Over sensitive and maybe maybe I shouldn't 812 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,359 be concerned but as you know many of our schools are 813 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:53,700 very different than each other and have facilities 814 01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:57,879 I know we travel, uh, the work that we do with the 815 01:09:57,879 --> 01:10:01,759 district, um, with our out outside organization, we 816 01:10:01,959 --> 01:10:05,479 we do a lot of events as you know uh we that's our 817 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,120 purpose is to travel from school to school as part 818 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,620 of that leadership role. Um, and so these kids actually 819 01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:16,700 see all the different schools and how theirs looks 820 01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,129 different than those, and many have expressed, oh 821 01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:22,339 I wanna go to this school. This is a nice school. My 822 01:10:22,339 --> 01:10:24,740 school doesn't have, but I don't see that addressed 823 01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:30,299 here in this opening kind of statement here. Um, around 824 01:10:30,299 --> 01:10:34,729 that at all, um, I know we have, of course our priority 825 01:10:34,729 --> 01:10:37,520 is to make sure that kids are educated in a safe place 826 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,319 and, and have the necessary needs they have to learn 827 01:10:40,939 --> 01:10:44,959 but how do, how are we going to address an issue of 828 01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:48,620 of some schools, especially when they're older versus 829 01:10:48,620 --> 01:10:56,720 those newer schools that have more. More options, um 830 01:10:56,879 --> 01:11:00,359 more access to, uh, opportunities that maybe some 831 01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,000 of the other kids may not have at their school because 832 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,359 of the age of that, that, that building structure 833 01:11:07,759 --> 01:11:11,479 So I guess I'm talking about compa compare comparing 834 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,160 a school to another. How does that weigh in at all 835 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,129 and does it and should it. Um, you know, being able 836 01:11:19,129 --> 01:11:22,500 to provide, for example, I remember I don't want to 837 01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:24,939 call out schools because I don't, I don't, it's not 838 01:11:24,939 --> 01:11:27,680 necessary, but I remember one school, uh, we went 839 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,979 to and the kids noticed that they had, um, Um, lounge 840 01:11:32,979 --> 01:11:36,660 areas for their students to go with, with the big 841 01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:40,180 pillows and kind of a sit in more like around mental 842 01:11:40,180 --> 01:11:43,069 health. They wanted to have something like that at 843 01:11:43,069 --> 01:11:45,569 their school. They didn't have the space for it or 844 01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:48,850 uh, to do something like that. So just using that 845 01:11:48,850 --> 01:11:53,990 as an example. So for clarification before you jump 846 01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:57,290 there, are you talking more programming that goes 847 01:11:57,290 --> 01:12:00,069 on to a school versus a facility component? I'm talking 848 01:12:00,069 --> 01:12:03,990 about a facility component. They can't offer those 849 01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:07,109 kinds of opportunities or access to those kind of 850 01:12:07,109 --> 01:12:09,279 opportunities because there's building. Won't allow 851 01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:12,560 for that so it's a, it's a space issue but, and, and 852 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,040 so I, I'm just wondering how are we going to address 853 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,799 that, especially if we wanna create all these schools 854 01:12:17,799 --> 01:12:21,479 of destination or my school of choice is my neighborhood 855 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,959 school if we're not looking at those kind of things 856 01:12:24,959 --> 01:12:30,859 as well. I'll, I'll say if I can brand it, it's, it's 857 01:12:30,859 --> 01:12:34,419 Keeping Up with the Joneses, Walter excluded, um, but 858 01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:38,180 that's the, the thing we very often hear. I will point 859 01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:43,540 to where we customarily rely upon for that is item 860 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:52,140 Uh, 2 B. Uh, 2, where it talks about program analysis 861 01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:56,810 and so where, when we, when we do facility improvements 862 01:12:56,899 --> 01:13:00,740 there's 2, call them trains. There's condition-based 863 01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:02,529 improvements, and there's adequacy-based improvements 864 01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:05,700 Condition is the condition of these systems and components 865 01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:10,089 need to be replaced. The adequacy means we don't have 866 01:13:10,089 --> 01:13:13,890 all the bells and whistles of a common, um, say more 867 01:13:13,890 --> 01:13:17,759 modern prototype. And so right now, a lot of our emphasis 868 01:13:17,759 --> 01:13:20,129 has continued to be condition-based. We want all of 869 01:13:20,129 --> 01:13:22,859 our schools to just be at a baseline, but. If we were 870 01:13:22,859 --> 01:13:25,580 afforded the luxury of either increased bond dollars 871 01:13:25,580 --> 01:13:28,700 or a breather where we don't have HVACs down, we would 872 01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:30,939 then probably transition to a lot more adequacy-based 873 01:13:30,939 --> 01:13:33,020 improvements, but there's a balance between the two 874 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:35,740 You can't just strictly say, oh, that's that school's 875 01:13:35,740 --> 01:13:38,009 running fine. It doesn't need all the bells and whistles 876 01:13:38,049 --> 01:13:41,089 and so, um, that's something we, as we prioritize 877 01:13:41,089 --> 01:13:43,140 dollars need to be just conscientious of. Is this 878 01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:46,129 an improvement that's based upon adequacy or based 879 01:13:46,129 --> 01:13:49,000 upon conditions, and both can be in a healthy relationship 880 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,000 with one another. I'd like to really see that kind 881 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,259 of more and maybe that's where we use that word may 882 01:13:58,180 --> 01:14:00,779 You know, but be able to at least address that in 883 01:14:00,779 --> 01:14:04,549 here in our policy because when we look at the re 884 01:14:04,549 --> 01:14:07,180 revisions of this policy, if you look at that, you 885 01:14:07,180 --> 01:14:09,299 see how long it's been since we've even addressed 886 01:14:09,299 --> 01:14:14,000 this policy and so it might be nice to incorporate 887 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,740 a sentence or something related to that, um, so that 888 01:14:18,939 --> 01:14:23,779 in those instances then we can add that into the discussion 889 01:14:23,890 --> 01:14:27,330 And weigh that into our decision making on what we're 890 01:14:27,330 --> 01:14:30,830 going to do at that school. So, like I said, paragraph 891 01:14:30,970 --> 01:14:36,370 or was it Section 2B2, paragraph 2 within that 2B2 892 01:14:36,569 --> 01:14:39,370 Where, where am I? Page 2, it's about 2/3 of the way 893 01:14:39,370 --> 01:14:42,250 down. Yeah, where it says program analysis. Yep. So 894 01:14:42,250 --> 01:14:44,600 then the second paragraph down it says, second paragraph 895 01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:48,129 adequacy. OK, I got you. I got measured as the cost 896 01:14:48,129 --> 01:14:52,049 to build or upgrade space. And I'll underline to accommodate 897 01:14:52,049 --> 01:14:56,129 current curriculum standards, and it says curriculum 898 01:14:56,180 --> 01:14:58,250 I don't love that word choice, so maybe in hindsight 899 01:14:58,410 --> 01:15:01,049 that would have been better to change, but this is 900 01:15:01,049 --> 01:15:04,290 where we'd say in alignment with current educational 901 01:15:04,290 --> 01:15:07,689 specifications. So, uh, can we change that maybe instead 902 01:15:07,689 --> 01:15:12,310 of curriculum to program standards? This is your guys' 903 01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:14,560 recommendation if that's what you'd like to see. I 904 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,560 mean, at least it gives us a little more, um, freedom 905 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,649 to curriculum is more instructional, whereas program 906 01:15:22,649 --> 01:15:26,040 could, could include facilities for consistency of 907 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,279 term. Would you guys adopt saying educational specifications 908 01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:32,359 because that's, we try to layer into that in other 909 01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:35,549 instances here as well. Educational specifications 910 01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:39,770 ed specs. That's a very common, uh. Um, term used 911 01:15:39,770 --> 01:15:42,200 throughout the architectural and design planning industry 912 01:15:43,930 --> 01:15:48,129 Well, this might actually, I mean, because when we 913 01:15:48,250 --> 01:15:50,770 one of the other ones that we're gonna get to is that 914 01:15:50,770 --> 01:15:54,970 7121. I'm wondering if, if that's where we really 915 01:15:54,970 --> 01:15:58,129 can look at maybe some of that additional language 916 01:15:58,209 --> 01:16:00,970 I had a lot of questions on that one too if we're 917 01:16:00,970 --> 01:16:03,470 just limiting it to outdoor space because I have hot 918 01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:06,169 kitchens for example on that one. But if I'm well 919 01:16:06,939 --> 01:16:09,180 If I'm understanding uh because I wanna try and get 920 01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:11,540 to one I wanna try and get to uh whether or not we 921 01:16:11,540 --> 01:16:13,939 can feel comfortable making a recommendation because 922 01:16:13,939 --> 01:16:16,660 as you and I've talked about we've we've been in this 923 01:16:16,660 --> 01:16:21,120 one for quite some time so if the feeling that program 924 01:16:21,259 --> 01:16:25,740 analysis and program adequacy are not clear enough 925 01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:29,899 terms to sort of capture that or be a mechanism for 926 01:16:29,899 --> 01:16:32,979 kind of capturing that that's your, that's your feeling 927 01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:36,979 is that the languages it's written. Doesn't give a 928 01:16:36,979 --> 01:16:43,100 strong enough weight or consideration to it. I'm gonna 929 01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:46,740 point out language wise, if you look above, you use 930 01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:50,439 the term current educational specs, so it makes sense 931 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,819 to delete curriculum standards and insert that language 932 01:16:53,819 --> 01:16:56,939 if that's recommended. I'm not sure if you need the 933 01:16:56,939 --> 01:17:00,220 word current in either place because that's kind of 934 01:17:00,220 --> 01:17:05,339 movable depending on. The site, the principal, the 935 01:17:05,339 --> 01:17:09,819 SOT, what they offer as educational specs on a particular 936 01:17:09,819 --> 01:17:12,180 campus. So that's just food for thought, but if you're 937 01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:14,600 going to mirror that language, then I would say that 938 01:17:14,899 --> 01:17:18,709 use the ed specs versus the curriculum. I will push 939 01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:20,629 back on that though. There is a separate regulation 940 01:17:20,629 --> 01:17:23,549 that we'll get to eventually, I'm sure, um, regarding 941 01:17:23,549 --> 01:17:25,990 that the district shall adopt educational specifications 942 01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:28,950 to ensure a degree of predictability and continuity 943 01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:30,990 across campuses. So, so then you probably wanna keep 944 01:17:30,990 --> 01:17:33,950 current continuity. That's a good one. Current specs 945 01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:36,870 then I'd like that one too, continuity. And then my 946 01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:39,669 other, so on that one, so we can go back to that one 947 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:42,750 but there were a couple of other, um, that I just 948 01:17:42,750 --> 01:17:47,729 wanted to get to real quick, uh, was, uh. Um, B, um 949 01:17:47,779 --> 01:17:53,040 Roman numeral 2, uh, B2, uh, program analysis which 950 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,100 we were talking about, um, where you're adding the 951 01:17:57,100 --> 01:18:00,020 language, the program analysis may consider facility 952 01:18:00,020 --> 01:18:04,569 age. I'd like to see that change to analysis will 953 01:18:04,569 --> 01:18:06,930 consider facility age percent of student enrolled 954 01:18:06,930 --> 01:18:10,250 versus program capacity portable classrooms required 955 01:18:10,250 --> 01:18:12,890 to accommodate the current educational specifications 956 01:18:13,180 --> 01:18:16,290 My other question for you on this, in particular when 957 01:18:16,290 --> 01:18:22,839 it comes to portable classrooms, um, how are we. In 958 01:18:23,229 --> 01:18:26,430 in these considerations, are you giving it weight 959 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,879 Are each going to be weighted and, and, and, and if 960 01:18:29,879 --> 01:18:34,319 so, is that going to be based on percentage of portables 961 01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:39,839 versus building classrooms, um, or number? I mean 962 01:18:39,919 --> 01:18:45,950 how are we determining, uh, that inadequacy? It's 963 01:18:45,950 --> 01:18:48,689 what you guys recommend if you guys want it to be 964 01:18:48,689 --> 01:18:52,569 a percentage based or weighted, what do we wanna capture 965 01:18:52,569 --> 01:18:58,020 it as? I just, I've just, right, right now when, yeah 966 01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:00,500 when we look at say just the Southwest High School 967 01:19:00,500 --> 01:19:03,580 area, for example, right, we know that Desert Oasis 968 01:19:03,580 --> 01:19:05,939 has double digit portables. We know Sierra Vista has 969 01:19:05,939 --> 01:19:09,580 double digit portables that weighs into it. We kind 970 01:19:09,580 --> 01:19:12,700 of anecdotally and quantitatively know that there's 971 01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:15,259 a lot of portables there, so it, it weighs into it 972 01:19:15,299 --> 01:19:17,700 It doesn't have increased weight, though it speaks 973 01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:20,580 to the story of why that schools are overcrowded, but 974 01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:24,569 seeing relief in, in the coming years. So I don't 975 01:19:24,569 --> 01:19:27,770 know, to, to Ms. Junkuliani's question earlier, Will 976 01:19:27,770 --> 01:19:30,609 versus May, I think it allows some flexibility is 977 01:19:30,609 --> 01:19:35,890 would be my only emphasis on here. Yeah, I like Will 978 01:19:36,620 --> 01:19:39,089 OK, and you're using this, you're using says at this 979 01:19:39,089 --> 01:19:44,470 CD, so you might want to mirror the will in this section 980 01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:47,959 as long as you have it in the C area. Yeah, I just 981 01:19:47,959 --> 01:19:50,290 don't want it to be left out that that we may do it 982 01:19:50,290 --> 01:19:54,830 or we may not. You know, I, I just, we will, we will 983 01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:58,189 take this into consideration, and we're gonna, and 984 01:19:58,189 --> 01:20:04,089 we will add it to our, uh, analysis. Instead of May 985 01:20:04,430 --> 01:20:07,229 And I, I feel very strongly about that one only because 986 01:20:07,229 --> 01:20:10,870 of, um, the struggles we've had with, um, with portables 987 01:20:10,939 --> 01:20:16,000 We've done better. I give you that, but we still um 988 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,200 have a have issues with that, um, and then, um, when 989 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:26,640 it comes to prioritization, um, one A, um, you, you 990 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,040 have in here that you're weighing the replacement 991 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,240 value of each of the facilities blah blah blah blah 992 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:36,680 blah, um, I didn't see, um, in here and I'm and and 993 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,819 this could be maybe I'm just being a little, um. Overly 994 01:20:40,819 --> 01:20:43,990 cautious, um, but I didn't see portables in there 995 01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:48,339 at all, uh, as far as our will are portables included 996 01:20:48,589 --> 01:20:52,979 so if a portable. Electricity went out or the heat 997 01:20:52,979 --> 01:20:55,459 or the air conditioning went out or the heating went 998 01:20:55,459 --> 01:20:57,540 out or whatever, there was a problem with that portable 999 01:20:57,899 --> 01:21:01,459 would that then be included in this? Is that part 1000 01:21:01,459 --> 01:21:04,819 of this prioritization, even if it's a portable classroom 1001 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,299 or does this only apply to building classrooms? It 1002 01:21:08,299 --> 01:21:11,479 doesn't preclude it and it doesn't, to your point 1003 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:13,979 specifically include it, but it's not excluded. So 1004 01:21:13,979 --> 01:21:16,160 it's anything that can threaten instruction, which 1005 01:21:16,290 --> 01:21:24,729 tend to be those four core areas. OK. OK, um, All 1006 01:21:24,729 --> 01:21:26,319 right, I'll leave that alone because that can get 1007 01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:30,770 very complicated. Um, and then lastly, again, on, I 1008 01:21:30,770 --> 01:21:33,169 think you brought that up, Chris, I think, I'm not 1009 01:21:33,169 --> 01:21:38,450 sure, on 1, D, where we have this examination, we'll 1010 01:21:38,450 --> 01:21:40,899 consider facility H, blah, blah, blah. But then it 1011 01:21:40,899 --> 01:21:48,180 conflicts. So 50 years, um. Yeah, so we need to be 1012 01:21:48,180 --> 01:21:50,979 consistent. you're talking about, go back to here 1013 01:21:51,689 --> 01:21:55,729 So. Yeah, with the 40 years. So they're using 50. Hmm 1014 01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:59,060 So, I don't know, I forgot to ask about, Is that what 1015 01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:01,700 you're asking? The inconsistency of the 40 years and 1016 01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:08,700 the 50 years. I think it's that when you're talking 1017 01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:14,020 about the age of the the the screening all facilities 1018 01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:19,140 over 40 years that's a screening process is how I 1019 01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:25,640 read that and then. The FCI of greater 0.6 will support 1020 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,919 a replacement recommendation if the facility is 50 1021 01:22:28,919 --> 01:22:32,120 years or older. So one is a recommendation process 1022 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,189 and one is a screening process is my understanding 1023 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,790 But Brandon, do you read that differently? No, that's 1024 01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:43,100 consistent. So that's how we want to keep so you took 1025 01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:47,189 it between 40 and 60 and you landed on 50. Well, no 1026 01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:50,350 50 years is our projected lifespan, but to Ms. Blackton 1027 01:22:50,350 --> 01:22:52,790 Taylor's point, yes, 40 years is when we start to 1028 01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:55,629 see those inconsistencies, so it becomes a screening 1029 01:22:55,629 --> 01:22:57,390 mechanism because it usually doesn't. Oh, I see. OK 1030 01:22:57,580 --> 01:22:59,870 Usually doesn't point to the whole story. OK. OK. And 1031 01:22:59,870 --> 01:23:02,089 then we move up to the 50 because that's what we're 1032 01:23:02,089 --> 01:23:04,350 making, actually making these, those changes. Right 1033 01:23:04,509 --> 01:23:10,549 OK, I got you. OK. Um, I think that was, 00, and then 1034 01:23:10,549 --> 01:23:13,509 my last question on the last page, we're, we're looking 1035 01:23:13,509 --> 01:23:17,240 at this, uh, map of Bonnanza. Um, does this, does 1036 01:23:17,319 --> 01:23:21,359 uh, uh, I'm Bonanza too at Western, does Western have 1037 01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:26,950 any portables on their campus? Uh, I would have to 1038 01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:29,390 confirm that for you. They, they may, and I don't 1039 01:23:29,390 --> 01:23:31,620 want to mislead you, but so, so my question is then 1040 01:23:32,490 --> 01:23:34,830 then in this map, if there were portables, we're not 1041 01:23:34,830 --> 01:23:37,910 seeing it on this map. When I worked at Western in 1042 01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:43,000 2017, they had portables. I'm just curious because 1043 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,759 if we're looking at maps to make decisions and we're 1044 01:23:45,759 --> 01:23:50,640 not showing portables, then it kind of skews. You're 1045 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,399 saying you would like an example like that actually 1046 01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:56,229 shows portables as well because that's part of the 1047 01:23:56,229 --> 01:24:00,240 instructional facility. I see what you're saying. And 1048 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,080 and and then it does raise the issue because now you're 1049 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,600 seeing like for example some of the schools you named 1050 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,950 where we see portable, portable port it's like a portable 1051 01:24:08,484 --> 01:24:11,375 Well this is, I, but I believe this example is just 1052 01:24:11,375 --> 01:24:17,404 showing how an FCI comes about portables, not into 1053 01:24:17,404 --> 01:24:21,484 the FCI. It drives our capacity analysis but not our 1054 01:24:21,484 --> 01:24:24,524 FCIs because that's what we came up against when we 1055 01:24:24,524 --> 01:24:26,714 were trying to have this conversation about portables 1056 01:24:26,714 --> 01:24:29,765 in the past was that because portables are not permanent 1057 01:24:29,765 --> 01:24:34,415 facilities, they don't fall under the FCI calculations 1058 01:24:35,149 --> 01:24:38,910 Which is why we've looked to add portables as a part 1059 01:24:38,910 --> 01:24:42,549 of the consideration elsewhere because we couldn't 1060 01:24:42,549 --> 01:24:47,390 do it as a part of the FCI. Where is there a way that 1061 01:24:47,390 --> 01:24:51,580 we can show our portables still when we're looking 1062 01:24:51,580 --> 01:24:53,990 at you tell me that how, how do you want to capture 1063 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:56,629 it? I mean, I, I would like to be able to see portables 1064 01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:58,669 because then I could wouldn't have to ask that question 1065 01:24:58,750 --> 01:25:01,890 I can look at a map and I can say, oh, we've got a 1066 01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:05,709 portable park. I venture to guess the FCI on nearly 1067 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:09,479 all of our portables would be one. Because they're 1068 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,000 pretty, I say relatively inexpensive and to repair 1069 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,839 them is pretty extensive and you, you know, as much 1070 01:25:15,839 --> 01:25:19,580 as anybody, they are, are pretty old assets usually 1071 01:25:19,759 --> 01:25:22,180 uh, we've bought a couple in the last couple of years 1072 01:25:22,319 --> 01:25:25,200 but by and large it wouldn't really indicate anything 1073 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,979 different to us than what we currently already know 1074 01:25:27,790 --> 01:25:29,910 I think I'm happy to capture however you wanna see 1075 01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:32,470 it. I think for me in terms of the sample of what's 1076 01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:36,669 in an FCI, this is an adequate picture of that. I 1077 01:25:36,669 --> 01:25:39,709 think what's more important is, as we see reporting 1078 01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:44,990 data based on this, that we continue to capture portables' 1079 01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:48,810 information. So this isn't a sample of what sort of 1080 01:25:49,509 --> 01:25:53,430 Reporting we would be getting on these topics in my 1081 01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:56,669 opinion this is just an illustration as a part of 1082 01:25:56,669 --> 01:26:01,509 this regulation that gives an example of how FCI works 1083 01:26:01,509 --> 01:26:07,229 in a very, very basic way, but I, to me what reports 1084 01:26:07,229 --> 01:26:10,470 and what oversight gets generated because of this 1085 01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:16,450 policy is, is more valuable. I'm not sure how much 1086 01:26:16,450 --> 01:26:20,649 we'll be referencing this as a, as a just a to me 1087 01:26:20,649 --> 01:26:25,370 I see this as a as a a sample page that's on a that 1088 01:26:25,370 --> 01:26:27,560 might be on a on a quiz or something, but this is 1089 01:26:27,770 --> 01:26:30,569 this is static information. These are not incorrect 1090 01:26:30,569 --> 01:26:35,330 FCI numbers. This is just a, just a sample. OK, well 1091 01:26:35,450 --> 01:26:37,930 in fairness, and, and then I'm done with my questions 1092 01:26:38,009 --> 01:26:40,609 but in fairness, I still would prefer to be able to 1093 01:26:40,609 --> 01:26:44,160 see that, um, on there, but. Uh, with maybe a footnote 1094 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,240 or something that those are portables and we know 1095 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,339 that it's not part of the FCI, but I would prefer 1096 01:26:50,339 --> 01:26:52,799 that's just my opinion. Others have their own opinion 1097 01:26:52,839 --> 01:26:55,319 but I wanna express mine. I think an accommodation 1098 01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:57,879 could be made because this is just a sample that you 1099 01:26:57,879 --> 01:27:00,319 put in an asterisk and say portable is not included 1100 01:27:00,319 --> 01:27:03,859 or not, not pictured. Then that way it doesn't assume 1101 01:27:03,859 --> 01:27:09,549 one way or another. Our portables are included in 1102 01:27:09,549 --> 01:27:13,049 the and that portables are included in the analysis 1103 01:27:13,930 --> 01:27:19,680 Thank you. OK, um. And then, well, not yet. Um, do 1104 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,520 we have anybody online that would like to discuss 1105 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:28,640 this? Anybody else on the dais, I'd, I'd prefer this 1106 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,959 is an action item, so I'd like to know if there's 1107 01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:37,529 any public comment on this. There's not. OK, I'm I'm 1108 01:27:37,529 --> 01:27:39,930 hesitant because we, I know we're still at quorum 1109 01:27:39,930 --> 01:27:43,169 even with Mr. Jones having stepped out, um, but I'd 1110 01:27:43,169 --> 01:27:47,450 like to hesitate before, um, actually making a motion 1111 01:27:47,450 --> 01:27:55,029 on this. Just take an extra moment. I mean, I will 1112 01:27:56,740 --> 01:28:01,209 So I just to be clear in terms of these suggestions 1113 01:28:01,209 --> 01:28:06,910 that were made today, Mr. McLaughlin, that. Your team 1114 01:28:07,089 --> 01:28:10,649 could potentially consider some of this language in 1115 01:28:10,649 --> 01:28:13,490 terms of updating it, or is there no intent to alter 1116 01:28:13,490 --> 01:28:15,930 any of this language at this point because of where 1117 01:28:15,930 --> 01:28:20,520 this process is, and this was more clarification. Um 1118 01:28:20,609 --> 01:28:22,129 I'll have to work with the superintendent's office 1119 01:28:22,129 --> 01:28:25,330 on that because I'll, I'll have to work on the superintendent's 1120 01:28:25,330 --> 01:28:28,169 office on that because these are again staff recommendations 1121 01:28:28,169 --> 01:28:31,370 on behalf of the superintendent, and these are good 1122 01:28:31,370 --> 01:28:35,189 inputs to, to receive, but. Um, very much I'll have 1123 01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:37,310 to see if it's consistent with what we as a district 1124 01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:39,990 are, are recommending on, and we're grateful for you 1125 01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:42,709 guys' participation, but I don't want it to be misportrayed 1126 01:28:42,709 --> 01:28:45,330 that you guys are representing the staff recommendation 1127 01:28:45,330 --> 01:28:48,169 though we hope it's all consistent. So I think in 1128 01:28:48,180 --> 01:28:51,259 in terms of that in our expectation as a bond oversight 1129 01:28:51,259 --> 01:28:54,410 committee, I wanna be clear that like we, we're able 1130 01:28:54,549 --> 01:28:57,564 oh great, Mr. Jones, um, that we are able. Able to 1131 01:28:57,865 --> 01:29:00,424 make those concerns known, make those suggestions 1132 01:29:00,424 --> 01:29:02,865 known, but we will be voting on whether or not to 1133 01:29:02,865 --> 01:29:06,415 approve this language sort of as is with consideration 1134 01:29:06,415 --> 01:29:09,944 of those of those potential changes. If those changes 1135 01:29:09,944 --> 01:29:14,104 do not get made, I think then my understanding is 1136 01:29:14,104 --> 01:29:16,665 that your position at this point would be to not recommend 1137 01:29:16,665 --> 01:29:22,770 if, if it's, if those changes are not are. That's 1138 01:29:22,770 --> 01:29:26,209 a good question. are absolutely integral to whether 1139 01:29:26,209 --> 01:29:28,740 or not you make that recommendation for clarification 1140 01:29:28,890 --> 01:29:32,410 the superintendent's office staff have recommendations 1141 01:29:32,649 --> 01:29:35,569 It comes to us as an advisory board. We, in addition 1142 01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:39,629 can make recommendations and then they. Choose, don't 1143 01:29:39,629 --> 01:29:43,169 choose, change it completely, but I, I don't think 1144 01:29:43,169 --> 01:29:46,910 it, it doesn't change anything. We're just clarifying 1145 01:29:46,910 --> 01:29:49,790 language a little bit more closely in my opinion. Right 1146 01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:53,270 I'm just saying that this does not have to come back 1147 01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:56,910 to us to make another recommendation, yes, Yvette 1148 01:29:58,069 --> 01:30:06,580 I don't think so. Um What I see before us is staff's 1149 01:30:06,580 --> 01:30:10,120 recommendations, and we've entered into a conversation 1150 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,939 as to their recommendations to us that they, that 1151 01:30:12,939 --> 01:30:15,919 they're recommending. Um, they could still make their 1152 01:30:15,919 --> 01:30:18,799 own recommendations to the trustees as staff, the 1153 01:30:18,799 --> 01:30:21,509 superintendent, but we as a committee can make our 1154 01:30:21,509 --> 01:30:24,799 own recommendations. It could be that we totally agree 1155 01:30:24,799 --> 01:30:27,919 100% with everything just as written, and that could 1156 01:30:27,919 --> 01:30:30,680 be our recommendation that we support this document 1157 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,819 as presented to us, or we can make our recommendation 1158 01:30:33,919 --> 01:30:37,399 with our changes. And so there could be our still 1159 01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:40,250 our recommendation could be made today if we're ready 1160 01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:43,879 to do that as a committee. Uh, with our, um, with 1161 01:30:43,879 --> 01:30:47,439 our recommendations, our changes, our tweaks, our 1162 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:52,120 tweaks, thank you, and staff still could present if 1163 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,140 they disagree, can still pre present their recommendations 1164 01:30:56,399 --> 01:30:59,439 but the committee is still making their recommendation 1165 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,330 We're still a separate body from staff. Oh, I, I understand 1166 01:31:03,330 --> 01:31:05,609 that this is, uh, that's what I was just trying to 1167 01:31:05,609 --> 01:31:08,689 clarify. So we can move forward today on this. We're 1168 01:31:08,689 --> 01:31:11,660 not, we don't have to hold anything up or move anything 1169 01:31:11,660 --> 01:31:16,450 forward. We can, if we all agree or disagree or, um 1170 01:31:16,540 --> 01:31:19,740 I think the committee, uh, I can try a motion and 1171 01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:22,740 then we see if I get it or not. Well, that, yeah, that's 1172 01:31:22,740 --> 01:31:25,540 where I think it gets a little bit confusing, but 1173 01:31:25,580 --> 01:31:28,049 um, we have, we've already asked for public comment 1174 01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:30,609 We do not have public comment, so we are ready. To 1175 01:31:30,609 --> 01:31:33,410 entertain a motion if Chris, you wanna get us started 1176 01:31:33,410 --> 01:31:37,450 on this, OK, I'll, I'll make an effort. Um, I would 1177 01:31:37,450 --> 01:31:42,240 move that we approve the revision. I recommend the 1178 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,370 revisions, uh, additional revisions to regulation 1179 01:31:45,370 --> 01:31:59,299 7112. With the following. On page 2. B2 program analysis 1180 01:31:59,700 --> 01:32:07,160 change the word may to will so it matches with CD 1181 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,580 The second part of the motion would include rewriting 1182 01:32:13,580 --> 01:32:18,490 the paragraph program adequacy by deleting curriculum 1183 01:32:18,490 --> 01:32:22,299 standards and inserting educational specifications 1184 01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:34,149 That on page 3 of 4 C. D And I, and I missed that 1185 01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:40,740 2 B to insert the words if any. Uh, insert the words 1186 01:32:40,740 --> 01:32:46,850 if anywhere after portable classrooms in D. And in 1187 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:51,319 item B2, I, I'm misstating that. So those two should 1188 01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:58,509 be if any after the words portable classrooms. And 1189 01:32:58,509 --> 01:33:00,750 then I might just make a suggestion that would be 1190 01:33:00,750 --> 01:33:04,470 the changes that I, I saw that we've discussed. They're 1191 01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:09,270 fairly motion. That's my motion. And included in that 1192 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:13,569 motion is that staff in their discussion with the 1193 01:33:13,850 --> 01:33:18,069 superintendent's office explore whether or not regional 1194 01:33:18,069 --> 01:33:22,419 superintendents could gather program offerings. So 1195 01:33:22,419 --> 01:33:25,779 so that they know by school what is being offered 1196 01:33:25,779 --> 01:33:27,859 in a particular school so that when somebody says 1197 01:33:27,970 --> 01:33:29,899 oh, well, they got that over there and they got that 1198 01:33:29,899 --> 01:33:33,529 over there, that could complement what's going on 1199 01:33:33,580 --> 01:33:36,859 Because if, what I want to make sure is if we're recommending 1200 01:33:36,859 --> 01:33:40,410 an upgrade to this, the school district is contemplating 1201 01:33:40,410 --> 01:33:44,779 changing some from pre-K6 to pre-K8. You have program 1202 01:33:44,779 --> 01:33:48,779 changes that can shift. Some of what's included in 1203 01:33:48,779 --> 01:33:51,919 here, I want to make sure that we are complementary 1204 01:33:51,919 --> 01:33:55,339 to what's there rather than excluding anything potentially 1205 01:33:55,339 --> 01:33:59,220 down the road. OK. That motion then got a lot more 1206 01:33:59,220 --> 01:34:01,649 unwieldy, Chris. OK, so let me just do the initial 1207 01:34:01,649 --> 01:34:05,379 motion which is those 4 changes that I mentioned. So 1208 01:34:05,379 --> 01:34:08,459 Chris's motion just to clarify so everyone knows what's 1209 01:34:08,459 --> 01:34:12,919 on the, on the table is to approve recommendation 1210 01:34:12,919 --> 01:34:16,990 to the board of school trustees. With the following 1211 01:34:16,990 --> 01:34:21,689 suggestions that in 2, I want to restate this. So 1212 01:34:21,689 --> 01:34:29,850 in 2 procedure B2 that in the program analysis, the 1213 01:34:29,850 --> 01:34:34,330 program analysis will consider facility age, percent 1214 01:34:34,330 --> 01:34:36,850 of students enrolled versus program capacity, and 1215 01:34:36,850 --> 01:34:40,129 portable classrooms, if any, required to accommodate 1216 01:34:40,129 --> 01:34:43,049 the current educational specifications in the paragraph 1217 01:34:43,049 --> 01:34:46,189 below that to change. Curriculum standards to educational 1218 01:34:46,189 --> 01:34:53,609 specifications in paragraph 1 sorry 1D that we add 1219 01:34:53,609 --> 01:34:58,250 in if any to portable classrooms. Those are those 1220 01:34:59,310 --> 01:35:03,100 yes, those that is the 4 changes, the four tweaks 1221 01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:05,390 recommended as a part of that. Can I make a suggestion 1222 01:35:05,390 --> 01:35:08,669 too? Uh, so Mr. Jones, you would like to amend Chris's 1223 01:35:10,859 --> 01:35:14,830 Instead of um staff recommend uh recommend staff and 1224 01:35:14,830 --> 01:35:18,149 other community members may contact the regional superintendent 1225 01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:20,709 shouldn't that be the trustee instead of the regional 1226 01:35:20,709 --> 01:35:27,220 superintendent? Um, so you're suggesting perhaps maybe 1227 01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:31,100 an and or the region superintendent and or trustee 1228 01:35:31,180 --> 01:35:35,459 I would say the trustee. That would be my suggestion 1229 01:35:37,250 --> 01:35:42,890 I would rather add than what than replace um but Chris 1230 01:35:42,890 --> 01:35:45,729 do you accept that alteration sure you can do and 1231 01:35:45,729 --> 01:35:50,799 or trustee and then ok in section E. So that is our 1232 01:35:50,799 --> 01:35:55,529 55 changes. I think the trustee might want to weigh 1233 01:35:55,529 --> 01:35:58,580 in. I'd like to weigh in on that really quickly. So 1234 01:35:58,580 --> 01:36:02,459 this regulation is a district regulation. That's why 1235 01:36:02,459 --> 01:36:06,100 it says staff. The trustees are, uh, well, the 7 of 1236 01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:09,540 us are elected. Uh, the other 4 are appointed. We 1237 01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:15,950 are already. Um, public servants, so in my opinion 1238 01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:19,459 it doesn't need to be in a district policy. It's a 1239 01:36:19,459 --> 01:36:22,180 given that our constituents can reach out anytime 1240 01:36:22,180 --> 01:36:24,500 they want. Um, I don't know that I would add that 1241 01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:27,580 to a district policy. Mr. Jones, just a recommendation 1242 01:36:27,580 --> 01:36:29,939 on my part. How would you like to react to that? Well 1243 01:36:30,020 --> 01:36:32,899 I was more because if you're talking about a regional 1244 01:36:32,899 --> 01:36:37,580 superintendent, but I think about tiny to make a recommendation 1245 01:36:37,580 --> 01:36:40,259 and getting access to them is, is quicker to get to 1246 01:36:40,259 --> 01:36:42,839 the trustee than it would be to a regional superintendent 1247 01:36:43,540 --> 01:36:46,419 Yeah, but we don't, so another thing to add to that 1248 01:36:46,419 --> 01:36:50,035 is we only have one employee that employee. As a superintendent 1249 01:36:50,194 --> 01:36:52,875 we don't, we don't have access to the regional as 1250 01:36:52,875 --> 01:36:55,274 well, um, because that's not our employees, so we 1251 01:36:55,395 --> 01:36:58,395 we don't go to them and tell them what to do or ask 1252 01:36:58,395 --> 01:37:02,834 them this or that we go to the soup, so, um, that 1253 01:37:02,935 --> 01:37:05,395 that is why it's the verbiage is in there like and 1254 01:37:05,395 --> 01:37:10,395 this is, this is May, so I think, um, I have a comment 1255 01:37:10,395 --> 01:37:13,084 from remember that we're in the middle of a motion 1256 01:37:13,154 --> 01:37:15,535 so yes, can I have the comment from online please 1257 01:37:16,075 --> 01:37:24,910 I don't know who it is. Nikia It was me and I actually 1258 01:37:24,910 --> 01:37:29,629 like the and or option. I think if we are passing 1259 01:37:29,629 --> 01:37:34,029 a motion, I'd rather have the option available now 1260 01:37:34,029 --> 01:37:38,029 so that people kind of have the choice. So if the 1261 01:37:38,029 --> 01:37:43,750 only employee is the superintendent. The trustees 1262 01:37:44,049 --> 01:37:48,049 are able to access the superintendent more easily 1263 01:37:48,049 --> 01:37:53,089 to have these discussions. So I would like to add 1264 01:37:53,089 --> 01:37:59,049 the and or. Thank you, Ms. Jackson Hill. Yes, reminder 1265 01:37:59,049 --> 01:38:04,140 that we're in the middle of a motion. Yes. OK, but 1266 01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:07,979 I just wanna just say this, um, the trustees are going 1267 01:38:07,979 --> 01:38:10,140 to be the bottom line, they're the ones that are gonna 1268 01:38:10,140 --> 01:38:13,419 approve this policy. If the trustees don't wanna, don't 1269 01:38:13,419 --> 01:38:15,899 want that, they'll just make that amendment if you 1270 01:38:15,899 --> 01:38:18,580 guys wanna move forward with that, um, you know, with 1271 01:38:18,580 --> 01:38:22,979 that and or, um, my opinion is, um, the trustees will 1272 01:38:22,979 --> 01:38:26,879 get involved regardless on any issue. So I think if 1273 01:38:26,890 --> 01:38:29,379 if community has an issue, they're gonna go to their 1274 01:38:29,379 --> 01:38:32,939 trustee about this anyway. And the trustee will, will 1275 01:38:32,939 --> 01:38:36,060 move forward with those discussions with the superintendent 1276 01:38:36,060 --> 01:38:38,939 on it. And so I, I kind of agree with our, with, um 1277 01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:42,259 with our, um, trustee board president on that issue 1278 01:38:47,709 --> 01:38:51,589 Uh, sorry, let me think of my thought. Mr. Jones, would 1279 01:38:51,589 --> 01:38:55,209 you like to still maintain this suggested alteration 1280 01:38:55,209 --> 01:38:57,870 to the well, the reason why I reckon the reason why 1281 01:38:57,870 --> 01:39:01,259 I say the trustee because. Most of the parents don't 1282 01:39:01,259 --> 01:39:04,290 even know who the area superintendent is. I understand 1283 01:39:04,299 --> 01:39:06,459 but that was the reason why I said the trustee. They 1284 01:39:06,459 --> 01:39:09,100 know more about, they see more of a picture of a trustee 1285 01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,100 at the school than they're gonna see an area superintendent 1286 01:39:11,180 --> 01:39:13,740 and I understand President Stevens is concerned as 1287 01:39:13,740 --> 01:39:17,930 well as what is echoed by Yvette, um, but I don't 1288 01:39:18,020 --> 01:39:22,720 I, any of these recom these tweaks are just a part 1289 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,649 of a recommendation that we are making. To staff to 1290 01:39:26,649 --> 01:39:29,330 change it. And again, this becomes not something that 1291 01:39:29,330 --> 01:39:32,250 we are hoping that is planned to come back to us. This 1292 01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:38,310 is our feedback back to the employees. So I think 1293 01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:41,580 I, I have a suggestion. I don't think we even need 1294 01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:44,979 the first sentence. I, I, I don't wanna get even more 1295 01:39:44,979 --> 01:39:49,490 into, into the weeds of this. So I'd like to try and 1296 01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:52,339 but it's preclusive. Why do I have to have permission 1297 01:39:52,339 --> 01:39:55,419 and a regulation that I want to complain that a school 1298 01:39:55,419 --> 01:39:58,850 should be replaced and I'm only limited to go to the 1299 01:39:58,859 --> 01:40:01,500 the, uh, regional superintendent? That's what this 1300 01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:05,859 says. So rather than create that, maybe you just start 1301 01:40:05,859 --> 01:40:08,459 your sentence with the CIP working group we'll review 1302 01:40:08,459 --> 01:40:11,520 the draft replacement program. If a parent or a family 1303 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,660 member or a guardian or a kid doesn't think that the 1304 01:40:14,660 --> 01:40:18,819 CIP replacement is happening to their school, why 1305 01:40:18,819 --> 01:40:22,299 are we putting it in a regulation which limits who 1306 01:40:22,299 --> 01:40:27,660 they can talk to? That's a good point. So maybe we 1307 01:40:27,660 --> 01:40:29,859 just take that sentence out and then just leave it 1308 01:40:29,859 --> 01:40:33,649 with the CIP. Because it doesn't presume whether it's 1309 01:40:33,649 --> 01:40:36,209 a complaint or a non-complaint if you take that sentence 1310 01:40:36,209 --> 01:40:38,919 out. Does that make sense, Brandon, or not? I think 1311 01:40:38,919 --> 01:40:41,629 the idea of having it there was that they it actually 1312 01:40:41,770 --> 01:40:45,209 gave a permission structure for parents and community 1313 01:40:45,209 --> 01:40:48,160 members to get involved because it is not assumed 1314 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,379 in this process that they are that they have a voice 1315 01:40:51,379 --> 01:40:55,220 in that. As an option then to me I have every right 1316 01:40:55,220 --> 01:40:57,629 to go to my trustee and complain about any damn thing 1317 01:40:57,629 --> 01:40:59,810 I want to if they respond to me fine if not, then 1318 01:40:59,810 --> 01:41:02,609 I'm gonna take them out next time. So, um, you know 1319 01:41:02,669 --> 01:41:06,549 it's kind of like why are we precluding only if you're 1320 01:41:06,549 --> 01:41:08,709 complaining about the replacement do you get to go 1321 01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:12,799 to the superintendent regional superintendent. That 1322 01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:15,819 to me begs the question, what is that and I think 1323 01:41:15,819 --> 01:41:18,509 it's that matter of permission. Like you're giving 1324 01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:21,790 you don't need permission. No, you don't need permission 1325 01:41:21,870 --> 01:41:24,270 but I think we're in a situation where people don't 1326 01:41:24,270 --> 01:41:26,029 necessarily assume that that is an option that they 1327 01:41:26,029 --> 01:41:30,549 have. And that's why I said and or superintendent 1328 01:41:31,129 --> 01:41:35,450 so that people know their options. Instead of trustee 1329 01:41:36,140 --> 01:41:40,240 instead of trustee and oh sorry, the, the regional 1330 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,600 and trustee and or so that they know their options 1331 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,959 they can go to both, they can go to one. So let, OK 1332 01:41:48,259 --> 01:41:50,819 let's get because I, I, I think we are getting really 1333 01:41:50,819 --> 01:41:53,379 far into the weeds. I wanna make sure, Chris, what 1334 01:41:53,379 --> 01:41:55,810 is your motion right now? Is it still those tweaks 1335 01:41:55,810 --> 01:41:58,740 or you want to remove that sentence? I'm gonna suggest 1336 01:41:58,740 --> 01:42:02,049 that we do the motion with my tweaks, with the 4 tweaks 1337 01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:04,069 then we come back and deal with Walter's question 1338 01:42:04,250 --> 01:42:06,830 So that we actually don't muddy the waters any further 1339 01:42:07,129 --> 01:42:10,649 Let's maybe deal with this motion first. Um, OK, so 1340 01:42:10,649 --> 01:42:14,410 at this point you are the 14, you are, as your motion 1341 01:42:14,450 --> 01:42:20,209 you are rejecting Mr. Jones's, um, adjustment, and 1342 01:42:20,209 --> 01:42:24,609 no, I'm for this motion. You are rejecting his, his 1343 01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:26,790 he didn't have a second, so there's nothing to reject 1344 01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:29,990 at this point. Oh yeah, you're second in mine. So 1345 01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:31,990 no, I was asking if you were willing to mend your 1346 01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:34,549 agenda, your motion. You are not willing to amend 1347 01:42:34,549 --> 01:42:36,790 your motion. So the original motion that Chris has 1348 01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:41,189 stands that you are still seconding that, that motion 1349 01:42:41,299 --> 01:42:44,750 OK, so all in favor of making this recommendation 1350 01:42:44,750 --> 01:42:47,700 to the board of school trustees with the 4 tweaks 1351 01:42:47,700 --> 01:42:50,979 that we've already clarified. Please say aye, aye 1352 01:42:51,709 --> 01:42:58,379 aye. Opposed Hearing none, the motion carries. Thank 1353 01:42:58,379 --> 01:43:01,020 you. So now we will continue to start conversation 1354 01:43:01,020 --> 01:43:06,779 with a 7112 and consider an additional conversation 1355 01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:12,500 regarding the prioritization of needs. And I'm not 1356 01:43:12,500 --> 01:43:15,339 sure that we actually need to make a motion on this 1357 01:43:15,339 --> 01:43:18,120 as much as we consider it as a part of the conversation 1358 01:43:18,379 --> 01:43:22,899 where we, where we speak to staff and say that we 1359 01:43:22,899 --> 01:43:26,419 think that there can be room in this language to make 1360 01:43:26,419 --> 01:43:32,419 it more one to consider whether or not. It is dictating 1361 01:43:32,419 --> 01:43:35,399 a policy to the community and removing rights that 1362 01:43:35,399 --> 01:43:39,040 they would have otherwise. And if it's not, if considered 1363 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,000 more of a suggestion that we consider expanding the 1364 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,720 language to whom they can make a request. I, I have 1365 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,830 a question, um, to our liaison, uh, Madam President 1366 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,319 would it make sense? Could, would you reference just 1367 01:43:50,319 --> 01:43:54,270 in the discussion. To the other trustees that some 1368 01:43:54,270 --> 01:43:57,549 discussion centered around letter E and that we suggested 1369 01:43:57,549 --> 01:44:00,109 that they may contact their regional superintendent 1370 01:44:00,470 --> 01:44:03,589 the superintendent, or their trustee, and then blah 1371 01:44:03,589 --> 01:44:06,149 blah blah, and at least reference that for discussion 1372 01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:11,259 versus us doing a motion at this point. So what I'm 1373 01:44:11,259 --> 01:44:14,850 gonna, sorry. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take 1374 01:44:15,149 --> 01:44:19,069 take your recommendation, what you. Vote on as a committee 1375 01:44:19,529 --> 01:44:23,279 to the board. So whatever you guys vote on as your 1376 01:44:23,279 --> 01:44:25,529 recommendation, that's what we'll discuss. I did make 1377 01:44:25,529 --> 01:44:28,160 some notes. Like, for example, I did put a note, I 1378 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,390 even put Chris G next to it because it, it was a decent 1379 01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:35,770 point, and it makes me think like, how many regulations 1380 01:44:35,770 --> 01:44:41,060 do we have where we specifically say. Community parents 1381 01:44:41,060 --> 01:44:45,220 guardians, like if that's not a consistent theme, maybe 1382 01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:47,979 it doesn't belong, but that's, that's a good discussion 1383 01:44:47,979 --> 01:44:51,180 point. So like I am taking notes. I am listening, but 1384 01:44:51,180 --> 01:44:53,779 at the end of the day the, the, the main point will 1385 01:44:53,779 --> 01:44:56,200 be whatever you vote on as a committee as the recommendation 1386 01:44:57,830 --> 01:45:02,089 I can't. What I don't want to do is get into individual 1387 01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:07,669 um, discussion points with the board because that's 1388 01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:12,669 not, yeah, you got it. So I think to, to that end 1389 01:45:12,669 --> 01:45:20,990 there is potentially room to. Make a motion that if 1390 01:45:20,990 --> 01:45:24,790 we agree as a body that we would like to expand the 1391 01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:32,600 language of step 3. Section 1, subsection E to be 1392 01:45:33,419 --> 01:45:35,939 that we're not dictating the language of that, but 1393 01:45:35,939 --> 01:45:41,109 that we are urging greater consideration of, of that 1394 01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:44,740 clause. I think that is where we might have room to 1395 01:45:45,979 --> 01:45:48,689 To continue making a recommendation. I have somebody 1396 01:45:48,689 --> 01:45:53,129 online. Is that Jessica? Yeah, it's me. I, I guess 1397 01:45:53,129 --> 01:45:55,330 I just don't understand why we're hemming and hawing 1398 01:45:55,330 --> 01:45:58,930 over all this um verbiage, um, because, because it's 1399 01:45:58,930 --> 01:46:01,839 not like a lot of the verbiage that we've been. Looking 1400 01:46:01,839 --> 01:46:07,790 at is um majorly impactful. Um, I, I feel like we're 1401 01:46:07,790 --> 01:46:10,669 wasting a lot of time on this, and I, I, I don't know 1402 01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,000 I'm, I'm just really confused. So maybe there's people 1403 01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,479 out there in the community who are watching this who 1404 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,040 will be equally confused about why this even matters 1405 01:46:18,399 --> 01:46:21,959 Um, not to be rude, I appreciate everybody who's putting 1406 01:46:21,959 --> 01:46:24,399 in suggestions and things. I just don't understand 1407 01:46:24,399 --> 01:46:28,160 why we're spending so much time on May and Wills and 1408 01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,330 all this other stuff when in reality, I don't know 1409 01:46:32,410 --> 01:46:34,209 I, I, I feel like maybe we're focusing on the wrong 1410 01:46:34,209 --> 01:46:36,850 thing right now. I understand your point, um, Miss 1411 01:46:36,850 --> 01:46:38,830 Ellen, and I thank you for bringing it up. I think 1412 01:46:39,129 --> 01:46:41,970 for me, and this is my perspective, and, and maybe 1413 01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:44,740 this will help, is that when we come to the language 1414 01:46:44,740 --> 01:46:47,569 of policy and regulation, one that is one of the major 1415 01:46:47,569 --> 01:46:50,089 areas of purview for the bond oversight committee 1416 01:46:50,450 --> 01:46:55,419 so in terms of. Examining the process of how things 1417 01:46:55,419 --> 01:46:59,700 get decided is, becomes important if this language 1418 01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:06,040 is what dictates how staff and um Uh, how staff works 1419 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,799 with the community with the bond oversight committee 1420 01:47:08,799 --> 01:47:12,839 and with the board of school trustees in making these 1421 01:47:12,839 --> 01:47:17,839 decisions. So as an example, just to, to go back several 1422 01:47:17,839 --> 01:47:21,640 years, there was no mention of portables in any of 1423 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:25,584 this language and so portables were routine. not a 1424 01:47:25,584 --> 01:47:29,535 part of the consideration process or not a not a dictated 1425 01:47:29,535 --> 01:47:32,625 form of this of the communi of the decision making 1426 01:47:32,625 --> 01:47:36,024 process so they may have informally considered how 1427 01:47:36,024 --> 01:47:40,024 many portables were on a campus, how they were used 1428 01:47:40,185 --> 01:47:43,345 whether or not that was a factor in deciding whether 1429 01:47:43,345 --> 01:47:47,109 or not to renovate or replace the school. By adding 1430 01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:50,490 in this language, we wanted to create a mechanism 1431 01:47:50,490 --> 01:47:55,009 by which a temporary facility had an impact on decision 1432 01:47:55,009 --> 01:47:57,709 making when it came to replacements or renovations 1433 01:47:58,009 --> 01:48:01,649 So without that language in the policy or the regulation 1434 01:48:01,649 --> 01:48:05,529 that dictated the work of staff, then, or, or at least 1435 01:48:05,529 --> 01:48:08,950 looked to try and create a requirement in that area 1436 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,000 It wouldn't guarantee that that was a part of the 1437 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,160 consideration. So I think that's where some of this 1438 01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,850 language stuff and I, I, I understand and I hear that 1439 01:48:18,850 --> 01:48:22,080 idea of being in the weeds because I, I can feel, you 1440 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,759 know, how, how complicated it can be to sort of group 1441 01:48:25,759 --> 01:48:29,879 decide on, on individual words and language. Um, I 1442 01:48:29,879 --> 01:48:33,200 think the concern is that without having this in that 1443 01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,680 regulation or the policy is what happens if we don't 1444 01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:41,310 have that mechanism. So I think while I understand 1445 01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:47,479 that. The tediousness of some of this language specification 1446 01:48:47,569 --> 01:48:51,089 I think ultimately the import is if we don't have 1447 01:48:51,089 --> 01:48:55,189 regulations that comport to actions that we want taken 1448 01:48:55,370 --> 01:48:59,649 and it becomes custom as we will see with 7121 to 1449 01:48:59,649 --> 01:49:03,209 sort of just grant waivers or ignore those regulations 1450 01:49:03,209 --> 01:49:06,089 or policies, then we get into a position where the 1451 01:49:06,089 --> 01:49:10,410 work that we're doing is, is not as effective as it 1452 01:49:10,410 --> 01:49:15,830 could be. And it's ideally this was an this is a policy 1453 01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:20,390 from 2001 ideally this is a policy that outlives all 1454 01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:22,990 of our time on the bond oversight committee and gives 1455 01:49:22,990 --> 01:49:26,839 a, a framework by which future members of this committee 1456 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,790 can bring up, uh, concerns about replacements. Does 1457 01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:34,350 that help? Yeah, definitely, and I totally understand 1458 01:49:34,350 --> 01:49:37,509 why we want to talk about portables and add that um 1459 01:49:37,509 --> 01:49:42,350 into the, the regulations and things. Um, I just, I 1460 01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:46,589 feel like Like you said, like, maybe we're digging 1461 01:49:46,589 --> 01:49:50,899 a little too deep, um, for like, What we should be 1462 01:49:50,899 --> 01:49:54,419 accomplishing today. I don't know, I, I, I, I just 1463 01:49:54,419 --> 01:49:59,100 feel like we've spent so much time um on something 1464 01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:01,180 that I know that people in the administrative office 1465 01:50:01,180 --> 01:50:04,580 have worked really hard on, um, and I know that everybody 1466 01:50:04,580 --> 01:50:09,649 has good intentions. I just I don't know, maybe. Help 1467 01:50:09,810 --> 01:50:12,089 I feel like we're spending too much time on it. I 1468 01:50:12,089 --> 01:50:14,120 appreciate that feedback, Miss Helen, and, and I, I 1469 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:18,069 am ready to move on, but we're going to, yes, Yvette 1470 01:50:19,029 --> 01:50:23,109 I just want to add, uh, one of the reasons why, uh 1471 01:50:23,390 --> 01:50:26,750 um, this is, this regulation, both these regulations 1472 01:50:26,750 --> 01:50:30,149 are so important to me. Um, when I got on the bond 1473 01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:31,910 oversight committee, I guess it's been what, I don't 1474 01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:36,910 know, 78 years, it's been a while, um, we didn't have 1475 01:50:37,069 --> 01:50:42,330 we weren't, when we looked at, uh, repairs of facilities 1476 01:50:42,350 --> 01:50:45,069 replacements, some schools were getting repairs while 1477 01:50:45,069 --> 01:50:47,350 other schools were getting replacements. There was 1478 01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:51,950 a lot of inequity. And, uh, because we weren't addressing 1479 01:50:52,259 --> 01:50:55,859 uh, the issue of portables, I will talk about Matt 1480 01:50:55,859 --> 01:50:58,979 Kelly for example. Matt Kelly Elementary School had 1481 01:50:58,979 --> 01:51:03,910 a ton of portables some work, some didn't, um, and 1482 01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:07,500 this is what I think really, uh, I think, uh, put 1483 01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:12,220 a fire under my hat, uh, was seeing some of the inequities 1484 01:51:12,312 --> 01:51:15,352 Especially with a lot of our older schools who had 1485 01:51:15,352 --> 01:51:18,671 a ton of uh portables like I said earlier, uh, like 1486 01:51:18,671 --> 01:51:21,321 I said to staff, really appreciate the work they've 1487 01:51:21,321 --> 01:51:24,071 done getting rid of uh we've gotten rid of a ton of 1488 01:51:24,071 --> 01:51:26,751 portables where they've been reassigned, put it like 1489 01:51:26,751 --> 01:51:29,771 that because our new our newer areas that are booming 1490 01:51:29,771 --> 01:51:32,711 where we're overstaffed, we're having to use those 1491 01:51:32,711 --> 01:51:35,111 because we're overstaffed, but they were a lot of 1492 01:51:35,111 --> 01:51:38,034 them were being. And used in the older schools and 1493 01:51:38,083 --> 01:51:41,284 and they were just there year after year after year 1494 01:51:41,284 --> 01:51:45,394 after year and so that's why we pushed so hard uh 1495 01:51:45,394 --> 01:51:48,204 in this work to try to deal with these portables and 1496 01:51:48,204 --> 01:51:51,403 make sure that the portables had weight when staff 1497 01:51:51,403 --> 01:51:54,833 was considering um what they were going to do with 1498 01:51:54,844 --> 01:51:57,644 with these sites going forward so I hope that helps 1499 01:51:57,644 --> 01:52:03,875 clarify. Um, at least my, my intention, um, I, I, I 1500 01:52:03,925 --> 01:52:05,815 I understand, and I, I would like to move forward 1501 01:52:05,815 --> 01:52:07,576 on this because we do have other things we have to 1502 01:52:07,576 --> 01:52:10,735 get through. This is Chris. I'm going to make a suggestion 1503 01:52:10,735 --> 01:52:13,295 and I appreciate Walter bringing it up because words 1504 01:52:13,295 --> 01:52:15,976 do matter and with no disrespect, regulations have 1505 01:52:15,976 --> 01:52:19,645 the weight of being basically a law to implement stuff 1506 01:52:19,655 --> 01:52:24,810 so that that does make intent. Very important. So 1507 01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:26,830 whether we spend time, I, and I get what you were 1508 01:52:26,830 --> 01:52:29,189 saying, Jessica, to the layperson it's gonna be like 1509 01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:31,910 why are we debating this stuff? It's all in how you 1510 01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:34,229 interpret it. And if it's not in writing, it doesn't 1511 01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:37,709 exist. So if you as a parent want to argue about X 1512 01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:40,390 Y, and Z, and if it's not in regulation, you can be 1513 01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:42,580 blown off just because, well, it doesn't address it 1514 01:52:42,580 --> 01:52:45,310 in the reg. So let's come back to what Walter's saying 1515 01:52:45,569 --> 01:52:48,209 Maybe we just say we voted, we made our recommendations 1516 01:52:48,209 --> 01:52:51,810 on language change. As you present that to the superintendent's 1517 01:52:51,810 --> 01:52:54,330 office, would you at least have them take a look at 1518 01:52:54,330 --> 01:52:58,180 as the, uh, as our liaison's going to in letter E 1519 01:52:58,689 --> 01:53:04,549 removing the first sentence. Or adding and or trustee 1520 01:53:04,729 --> 01:53:09,549 to that and or because at this point the way it reads 1521 01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:12,109 if you're going to request a replacement consideration 1522 01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:15,859 it doesn't meet the requirements of this regulation 1523 01:53:16,169 --> 01:53:18,810 then the only person they as a community person that 1524 01:53:18,810 --> 01:53:23,509 you can res allegedly report to. Is the the regional 1525 01:53:23,509 --> 01:53:25,979 superintendent. Nobody knows who the heck that is 1526 01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,470 as a, as a general rule. So it just seems preclusive 1527 01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:34,250 Or 3, just get rid of letter E and. And you don't 1528 01:53:34,250 --> 01:53:37,839 deal with it at all. So those, I would just say that 1529 01:53:37,839 --> 01:53:40,620 we just make a suggestion that staff present those 1530 01:53:40,620 --> 01:53:43,979 3. Possibilities for them to consider as they review 1531 01:53:43,979 --> 01:53:49,149 our tweaks. So to that end, because, well, it would 1532 01:53:49,149 --> 01:53:51,830 be because we are deciding as a body whether or not 1533 01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:55,080 to make this recommendation because that is to trust 1534 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,990 that is to President Stevens's point, which is that 1535 01:53:58,189 --> 01:54:01,589 an individual we need to make that recommendation 1536 01:54:01,589 --> 01:54:05,390 as a voting body say without objection to the board 1537 01:54:05,709 --> 01:54:08,390 would you consider having this language be discussed 1538 01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:10,750 by staff? You don't have to do it as a formal motion 1539 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,649 Otherwise I don't believe that it might it bears the 1540 01:54:14,649 --> 01:54:18,330 weight of the full committee. It becomes what we need 1541 01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:21,680 to understand that the majority accepts that proposal 1542 01:54:21,790 --> 01:54:26,529 I'll then see if they accept the idea. OK, so Chris 1543 01:54:26,529 --> 01:54:33,890 has made a motion that I'm only making a suggestion 1544 01:54:34,549 --> 01:54:38,500 That staff when they present our changes explain that 1545 01:54:38,500 --> 01:54:41,910 we had this discussion with some potential changes 1546 01:54:42,220 --> 01:54:46,540 OK, I think we're, and if the board doesn't object 1547 01:54:47,930 --> 01:54:49,379 then you don't have to do it by motion. What do you 1548 01:54:49,379 --> 01:54:51,979 want, Walter Walter make his own motion. Well, yeah 1549 01:54:52,060 --> 01:54:53,979 I wouldn't make a motion because it was the same thing 1550 01:54:53,979 --> 01:54:56,140 that Ms. Williams went over with when she said some 1551 01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,220 schools don't have adequate what other schools have 1552 01:54:58,580 --> 01:55:00,459 and that's basically what it falls back on when it's 1553 01:55:00,459 --> 01:55:02,459 saying you have to go talk to certain wards to get 1554 01:55:02,459 --> 01:55:05,959 it done. I understand, but here a motion if we can 1555 01:55:05,959 --> 01:55:09,399 change the language. But, so here's, here's my, my 1556 01:55:09,399 --> 01:55:12,459 issue is that we had a motion on this recommendation 1557 01:55:12,759 --> 01:55:16,640 and when Chris made that motion. There was they we 1558 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:20,609 chose not to include that as a part of the recommendation 1559 01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:24,750 Gina, I just was gonna take it up as a secondary. I 1560 01:55:24,759 --> 01:55:26,520 I hear what you're saying. I don't want you guys to 1561 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,910 commit an open meeting law, so I'm gonna say you're 1562 01:55:28,910 --> 01:55:30,959 outside of the agendas of this. I hear what you're 1563 01:55:30,959 --> 01:55:33,799 saying and I am more than happy to say a lot of words 1564 01:55:33,799 --> 01:55:36,799 when I present this next week. OK, I think we need 1565 01:55:36,799 --> 01:55:40,950 to move on at this point. So we are moving on from 1566 01:55:41,229 --> 01:55:43,350 we've made a motion, we've approved that motion. We're 1567 01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:49,529 moving on from 2.07. We are now moving to, sorry, 2.06 1568 01:55:50,660 --> 01:55:55,600 Moving to 2.07, this is regulation 7121 review. I 1569 01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,490 do want to give an update before we start this conversation 1570 01:55:58,939 --> 01:56:00,779 because one of the things that we noticed when we 1571 01:56:00,779 --> 01:56:03,580 talked about this last month was how woefully out 1572 01:56:03,580 --> 01:56:06,339 of date some of this information was to the point 1573 01:56:06,339 --> 01:56:08,850 where at one point we had, I had even made the comment 1574 01:56:08,970 --> 01:56:11,979 the suggestion that we could possi possibly not use 1575 01:56:11,979 --> 01:56:16,229 this regulation. When as an executive committee we 1576 01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:19,819 met and discussed the actual language about this, it 1577 01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:24,009 it, it became very clear, very, very quickly that 1578 01:56:24,669 --> 01:56:26,859 between the executive committee that we were not in 1579 01:56:26,859 --> 01:56:30,910 a position to, to make this sort of as we've seen 1580 01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:37,169 from 71. 12, that it is very challenging to make granular 1581 01:56:37,169 --> 01:56:40,209 level, uh, recommendations on this as a, as a large 1582 01:56:40,209 --> 01:56:44,649 committee. So when we consulted with Brandon on our 1583 01:56:44,649 --> 01:56:47,669 options for what to do. One of our options became 1584 01:56:48,009 --> 01:56:50,490 and this is why it is an action item where we can 1585 01:56:50,490 --> 01:56:54,069 make a recommendation to the board of school trustees 1586 01:56:54,290 --> 01:56:59,529 that they request the superintendent to review this 1587 01:56:59,540 --> 01:57:03,229 this regulation with staff and direct them to be able 1588 01:57:03,229 --> 01:57:05,790 to make the changes that will then be brought forward 1589 01:57:05,790 --> 01:57:12,560 to us the way in which 712117112 would happen. So 1590 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:16,160 what we are discussing today is whether or not we 1591 01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,509 want to make a, not, not the specifics of this, whether 1592 01:57:19,509 --> 01:57:21,759 we are making a recommendation to the board of school 1593 01:57:21,759 --> 01:57:27,120 trustees to ask the superintendent to pursue the changes 1594 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,379 to this regulation. Given in and keeping in mind that 1595 01:57:30,379 --> 01:57:32,899 last month when we talked about this we have found 1596 01:57:32,899 --> 01:57:36,700 that this policy has routinely resulted in waivers 1597 01:57:36,700 --> 01:57:42,060 and has since uh in in practice has has been so outdated 1598 01:57:42,060 --> 01:57:45,189 that it is, it is not effective in its current state 1599 01:57:45,580 --> 01:57:47,779 so that is the conversation that we are talking about 1600 01:57:47,779 --> 01:57:51,839 right now, um. So I will open it up to discussion 1601 01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,640 I'm sorry, yes, um, I'm not, I'm not quite sure I'm 1602 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,479 understanding what are we, what are, what are, what 1603 01:57:57,479 --> 01:58:00,859 are you asking of us? Um, so you're going to present 1604 01:58:00,859 --> 01:58:07,080 to us 7121, and, and, and this is to, to make a recommendation 1605 01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:12,509 Um, to the board of trustees that they instruct staff 1606 01:58:12,509 --> 01:58:20,009 or superintendent to have staff review 7121 and make 1607 01:58:20,009 --> 01:58:23,770 some kind of recommendation about new policy around 1608 01:58:24,009 --> 01:58:27,569 or or revise this policy to present to the bond oversight 1609 01:58:27,569 --> 01:58:30,689 committee so we would then be getting that recommendation 1610 01:58:30,810 --> 01:58:34,129 uh, that recommendation from staff to us bond. Side 1611 01:58:34,129 --> 01:58:36,410 commit, we would look at it and then our recommendation 1612 01:58:36,410 --> 01:58:39,290 would then go to the board of trustees. Correct. That 1613 01:58:39,290 --> 01:58:42,009 is correct because when we talked about this last 1614 01:58:42,009 --> 01:58:44,850 month and we looked to try and get facilities direct 1615 01:58:44,850 --> 01:58:49,169 input on that, that became the process by which we 1616 01:58:49,169 --> 01:58:52,009 had to do it last month. No, that is totally fine 1617 01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,970 So I was being charged with what we are being charged 1618 01:58:54,970 --> 01:58:57,390 with is whether or not we are going to make a recommendation 1619 01:58:57,390 --> 01:59:01,649 to the board of school trustees for them to. Request 1620 01:59:01,649 --> 01:59:04,370 of the superintendent to ask facilities to review 1621 01:59:04,370 --> 01:59:07,589 this policy, this regulation, excuse me, yes, Chris 1622 01:59:08,830 --> 01:59:11,629 I guess I'm because you're right. What when we discussed 1623 01:59:11,629 --> 01:59:14,270 with you, myself and Al, we were like we don't even 1624 01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:17,549 know what this is, so staff has not made any changes 1625 01:59:17,549 --> 01:59:20,689 to this. How, why are we, why are we reviewing it 1626 01:59:20,689 --> 01:59:24,109 then? We are not. We need to be able to, it is on 1627 01:59:24,109 --> 01:59:27,069 our agenda to move this to board of school trustees 1628 01:59:27,069 --> 01:59:30,330 because without that we are not in a. Position to 1629 01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:33,419 request staff to make the changes themselves and so 1630 01:59:33,419 --> 01:59:37,000 staff will take into consideration the new CEO non-functional 1631 01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,890 grass, the use of the term turf, all those other components 1632 01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:44,740 that are there, discuss it and bring it back because 1633 01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:47,439 overparking we talked about it one of the meetings 1634 01:59:47,899 --> 01:59:51,009 and if there's need for the muni. With civil governments 1635 01:59:51,009 --> 01:59:53,410 to give you some waivers that come in on parking, those 1636 01:59:53,410 --> 01:59:56,850 types of things, so they'll flush it out if the trustees 1637 01:59:56,850 --> 01:59:59,270 refer or the superintendent refers it back to staff 1638 01:59:59,370 --> 02:00:02,529 and then this will come back to us, correct? And staff 1639 02:00:02,529 --> 02:00:06,970 is also they have the ability to involve how they 1640 02:00:06,970 --> 02:00:10,009 want bond oversight in the in the creation of that 1641 02:00:10,009 --> 02:00:15,270 policy. Is that, is that more clear? OK. Do we have 1642 02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:21,620 any other discussion when it comes to online? Are 1643 02:00:21,620 --> 02:00:26,459 we still at Quorm? Correct. All right, I'd like to 1644 02:00:26,459 --> 02:00:29,339 make, if there's no further discussion, uh, is there 1645 02:00:29,339 --> 02:00:31,299 any, there's no further discussion, but let's ask 1646 02:00:31,299 --> 02:00:35,180 for public comment, please. Is there? Thank you. OK 1647 02:00:35,259 --> 02:00:39,680 go ahead. Um, I, I'd like to make a motion that, um 1648 02:00:40,229 --> 02:00:43,870 uh, that the bond oversight committee is making a 1649 02:00:43,979 --> 02:00:46,859 uh, recommendation to the board of trustees to instruct 1650 02:00:46,859 --> 02:00:51,479 the superintendent to have staff review policy regulation 1651 02:00:51,479 --> 02:00:58,040 regulation 7121. Um, uh, for revision, uh, and, um 1652 02:00:58,209 --> 02:01:00,850 and brought forward, brought back to the bond oversight 1653 02:01:00,850 --> 02:01:04,370 committee for our recommendations. Thank you, Ms. Williams 1654 02:01:04,649 --> 02:01:06,930 Thank you, Mr. Flatt. We have a motion and we have 1655 02:01:06,930 --> 02:01:11,470 a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye, aye, aye 1656 02:01:11,549 --> 02:01:15,520 aye opposed. Hearing none, let the record show that 1657 02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,759 Mr. Jones had stepped out for that particular vote 1658 02:01:17,879 --> 02:01:22,669 please. Thank you. All right, that closes 2.06. We're 1659 02:01:22,669 --> 02:01:26,790 going to move on to 2.07 future agenda items that 1660 02:01:26,790 --> 02:01:31,990 we have not already, um, discussed or talked about 1661 02:01:32,069 --> 02:01:34,950 Do we have any items that we would like to discuss 1662 02:01:35,910 --> 02:01:44,120 Or propose All right, then we will move on. Do we 1663 02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,799 have any, uh, well, we have no motion, but do you 1664 02:01:46,799 --> 02:01:50,790 have any public comment on 2.07? OK, thank you. We 1665 02:01:50,790 --> 02:01:54,950 are going to move on to, uh, number 3, 3.01. This 1666 02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:58,470 is the public comment period. So a member wishing 1667 02:01:58,470 --> 02:02:00,549 the public on matters that were not a part of the 1668 02:02:00,549 --> 02:02:03,149 agenda. Valerie, do we have any public comment in 1669 02:02:03,149 --> 02:02:08,830 this section? All right, we will move on to 4.01 adjournment 1670 02:02:09,279 --> 02:02:12,870 Um, I have a motion to adjourn from Christie. Do we 1671 02:02:12,870 --> 02:02:17,629 have a second? A second from Mr. Flatt. Uh, all in 1672 02:02:17,629 --> 02:02:22,990 favor, please say aye opposed. Aye hearing none. Uh 1673 02:02:23,069 --> 02:02:25,740 can we also make a note that Mr. Jones was not present 1674 02:02:25,740 --> 02:02:27,910 for the adjournment vote? Thank you very much. That 1675 02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:29,509 concludes this meeting of the Bond Oversight Committee 1676 02:02:29,509 --> 02:02:31,129 meeting at 1:15 p.m. Thank you.