1 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:22,200 Okay, Joey, we're live. 2 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,880 » Thank you, Jen. 3 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Good meeting time, guys. >> How's it going? 4 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:36,680 » Thank you. Good evening and welcome to the 5 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Grove Park Summit Council meeting, September 2nd. 6 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:46,280 In attendance we have Mrs. Grady, here. Mrs. Miller is absent. 7 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,640 Mr. Goza. >> Present. 8 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,920 » Uh Mr. Mitchell. 9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,920 » Here. >> Mr. Halonen. 10 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,800 » Here. >> Mr. Shields. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,440 » Present. >> Mayor Kelly. 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,600 » Here. >> Solicitor Krolak. 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,560 » Here. >> Borough Manager, Jen Basilega. 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,080 » Here. >> And Chief Kevin O'Connell. 15 00:01:04,199 --> 00:01:08,560 » Here. >> We're going to stand for a moment of 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:13,560 meditation. I'd like to lead you all. 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Salute our flag and we will have our two leaders and our secretary. 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,440 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,080 of America. With liberty and justice for all. 20 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,880 » Thank you. 21 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:48,480 The only one on the agenda is our own container public meeting that we 22 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:52,080 And Jen, would you like to direct us on this? 23 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:56,200 All council members are ready to hold on this week. 24 00:01:53,880 --> 00:02:01,000 » If there was any public comment? >> Do we have any public comment on this? 25 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,440 » And just for the record, notice was provided in the newspaper 26 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,400 twice. We we don't have this on our agenda to 27 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,679 vote on tonight though. Do we need to add it to our agenda before we approve 28 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,920 the agenda? >> I have it up on the top here agenda 29 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,000 should we vote on here or >> It's just here at the public meeting but 30 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,800 do we need to have it under old business in order to vote on it? 31 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,959 » Yes. >> And I apologize. Obviously that was my 32 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,800 fault. I thought we could just vote on the top here. Yes. 33 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,440 And so we'll add this to old business. >> Yes. 34 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,640 » Okay. Okay. 35 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,959 The next item on our agenda is the approval of the agenda. Do we have a 36 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,400 motion to approve the agenda? >> I'll make the motion to approve with the 37 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,480 addition of ordinance 1-2026 to old business. 38 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,200 » I'll second that. >> Thank you. On the question. 39 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,160 All in favor. >> Aye. 40 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,680 » Aye. >> Who's abstaining? 41 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:08,360 Next the approval of the minutes of our August 15th 42 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:13,640 and 2026 Borough Council meeting and our August 26th, 2026 43 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,880 work session. Do we have a motion to approve? 44 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:21,720 » I'll make a motion. >> Thank you, Jean. Do we have a second? 45 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,880 On the question. All in favor. 46 00:03:23,239 --> 00:03:27,920 » I vote aye. >> Aye. 47 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,640 » Who Who seconded that? >> I don't know. 48 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,800 » Jerry? >> I didn't 49 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,000 » I only got Jean as the first who seconded that. 50 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,880 » I'll second it. >> Okay. 51 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,480 Thank you. All right. I apologize. Go ahead. 52 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,200 » Okay. Thank you. The next is our public comment. Go 53 00:03:43,959 --> 00:03:47,400 ahead. >> Good evening. 54 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Good. >> Next is our police report 55 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:05,440 from our chief. >> Um in August um obviously one of the 56 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 biggest things in town was the blessing of the bikes thing. 57 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Um they staffed it with three additional officers um along with our uh full 58 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,799 officers that were working that day. And then we had assistance from South Avenue 59 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,480 and Waverly during the race itself. Um we had really no no issues. It went 60 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,240 over really well. I know it was very well received. Um 61 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,760 as far as crowd control there was no the alcohol there was no public drunkenness 62 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:34,120 anything like that. Um We definitely have to iron out some of 63 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:39,800 the rules with who's serving it next time um because there was issues with 64 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:45,680 verifying age of people that were of age 21 years old or older. 65 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:51,560 The the proper uh vessels that the alcohol is supposed to be in. So 66 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:55,880 it wasn't uh it was just a a hurdle we had to jump the day of and and navigate 67 00:04:53,320 --> 00:05:02,000 kind of that. So it it went well. Um there were some minor hiccups but 68 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:05,800 I think it'll work better in the future. Um 69 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:09,120 » I think for the turnout we had that day it was a overkill for the whole event. 70 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,919 » Yeah. It was >> And it was run so well. 71 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:16,760 » It was all behind the scenes stuff that that still needed to be tweaked for 72 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:19,520 future but definitely something that I need to keep an eye on for for future 73 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,880 events. >> yeah. 74 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,880 » No major issues. No there was no like I said there was no uh 75 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:28,919 it was a breast cancer uh fundraiser so people weren't there 76 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,520 highly lit. They were having a good time having a beer watching the band. So it 77 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,680 was it was a good time. It was a good time. It was well received. 78 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Um no there was no major issues. Um we're having a department meeting 79 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:45,680 in town in house with the mayor uh September 10th that's next Thursday for 80 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:50,240 our department. Um Let's see. I was at the back to school 81 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:54,120 carnival last Thursday. I'm at the high school talking about 82 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,600 e-bike safety with the Abington business and the school 83 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,160 district in there. 84 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,920 We had our PSP audit which audits our clean 85 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,640 or you basically our criminal histories of who who are running license plates, 86 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,880 all those sorts of things, anything why we're running them. We passed it. 87 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:15,720 I'd like to give a shout out to Officer Kaiser. He does a great job with that. 88 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:21,120 He's our TAC officer. So he too really does a a good job with that. 89 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:24,720 Another shout out to our DPW, Brian or yeah, Ryan Kehoe and Jay Miller. We had 90 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:29,560 our office staff kind of knows an incident in front of the borough 91 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:33,760 building last week. There required some use of the DPW. 92 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,840 See me after for details, I guess. It was 93 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,440 not safe for work stuff. But yeah, it was it was very well for those two 94 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:47,160 stepping up and helping us out there with that. Griffin Pond, I believe is on 95 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,360 the agenda tonight. I'm not sure to talk about that. I guess I'll I'm 96 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,720 going to stick around. So I'll just kind of save that for the end of the 97 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,480 That's another thing. My last thing I'll come to is once again 98 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,560 staffing continues to be the biggest hurdle I have. 99 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,080 You know, you'll look our overtime was down greatly in August and that was 100 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,520 because we have our new hire Justin Wilkie working in the slot that I was 101 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,600 in. So when I came up and did obviously made openings. So Justin's in there. 102 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,360 He's he's firing on all cylinders. He's been a great addition to our department 103 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,400 helping out with our rifle qualifications and all sorts of things. 104 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:26,040 It still leaves that opening on the other side filled by part-timers that 105 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,840 just are not getting filled throughout. 106 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,960 So that's one thing with part-timers which 107 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:38,320 troubled. The also troublesome thing is the SRO staffing for a while. 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:45,360 The person we hired that was supposed to be working that has kind of taken other 109 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,800 uh is working more heavily in their other 110 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,440 department and hasn't been available for the 111 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:57,160 shifts. So, that's the trouble with the part-time staffing for that. 112 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:01,760 So, we're have on we're on plan B. Um we're working on getting somebody else 113 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:05,240 in there, but it's been a struggle, for sure. 114 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Yeah, we we we have been up there since school has been in. Yeah, no, 115 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,880 everything's as is. You know, we're we're we're leaving the car up there. 116 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,720 We're walking through several times a day. 117 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Um it was a little bit of a fiasco since St. Gregory's was closed for Seal 118 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Coating last week. So, we're up there directing traffic, but it it's been 119 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,600 steady as she goes. We're we're still up there. We just 120 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:29,000 still have that uh dedicated officer before that school. 121 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,000 school right now. 122 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:36,120 » Uh Chief, um on the agenda on old business is Clark Street road contract. 123 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Do you have an opinion on that or is it something 124 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,599 » I got to I got to hang around for the whole meeting here, so I'll have a 125 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:45,960 little comment on on that. Um Clark Street, I've been here the whole 10 126 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:50,040 years we've had that contract. Um it's been uh 127 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,120 no extra hassle for us to have the coverage up there. 128 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Um I'd love to see the continued coverage 129 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,240 up there. They've been great to work with. Uh they've been a nice addition to 130 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,640 our department. Um it it really hasn't 131 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:07,120 seen too much of a decline for for us in functionality, so. 132 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,839 » And we think we're going to have an executive session in a minute. 133 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,520 » I I I think that's as fast as we can give a bit of an update 134 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,200 on the agenda, but then to get into some of the negotiation stuff, we should 135 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,920 probably go into executive session. And you're going to stay for 136 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,240 » Yeah, I'll stay tonight. You can talk. >> Oh, thank you. 137 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Appreciate that. 138 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Thanks. Anybody else have any questions for our 139 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Chief? 140 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,240 And this is when we usually excuse you, but we appreciate you staying. 141 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:43,480 » Hang on. No problem. >> Thank you very much, too. 142 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Okay. Uh the next 143 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:53,400 is in polls. We don't have any. I do have treasury reports. The motion 144 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,920 to >> They're not available. The um treasury 145 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,760 report and vendor report will be for next one. 146 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:04,120 Um Kevin was just here yesterday, which was the 1st, and it wasn't available. 147 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,520 So, we'll have both next time. >> Thank you, Jen. 148 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,520 » Mhm. 149 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:14,080 » Okay. Next is our vendor payments to be ratified. Say it. 150 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,240 We have a motion to pay the bills. >> No, uh they're the same. We won't have 151 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,800 that till next time, too. Treasury's and vendor. 152 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,040 » Oh, that's perfect. Thank you, Jen. >> Sure. 153 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,600 » Old business, we have our first green police contract. 154 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:44,760 » So, in in the packet is the proposal that 155 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:50,600 was sent to them. It's based on what I discussed at our at our work session. Um 156 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,760 I did converse a little bit today with Bill Egan there, 157 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,520 and I can share a little bit more about what we 158 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:02,480 discussed in executive session. >> Okay. 159 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Very good. Thank you, Judge. 160 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Next we got animal police and I need a uniform at 205 funding allocation for 161 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,120 2027. >> Sure. 162 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:23,440 » Council needs to vote for Jerry to sign that. 163 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,440 » Okay. 164 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,320 » I'll make a motion to approve the 2027 MLO. 165 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,400 » I'll second. >> I'll motion, 166 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,040 » Any questions? All in favor? 167 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:41,000 » Aye. >> Aye. 168 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 » Favor is carried. Thank you. 169 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,280 The next item on our agenda is our pet fees. 170 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,320 This is >> So, I had a chance to review what's 171 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,160 currently in the place. It's important since 2016. 172 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:00,080 I had a chance to speak with John prior to discuss this prior to the meeting. 173 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,480 This is called This is our Um 174 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:08,600 My recommendations are the ordinance that's currently in place 175 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:11,880 does not cover all of the issues that these are dealing with currently with 176 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,200 pet fees. So, Chief advised talking about what you're dealing with. 177 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,720 » Yeah, I mean well >> Specifically what pertains to like the 178 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,960 » So, we live in an area where like we have a lot of responsible pet owners. If 179 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:27,160 people generally their dog gets out, they're out looking for it. If not, we 180 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,240 take a dog or a dog and drive and put it on our Facebook page or community page. 181 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Somebody says, "Hey, that's my neighbor's dog." And we get it home. 182 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Maybe 10 times a year that we don't find the owner, it's nighttime, whatever, 183 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,800 that we have to take the dog to the impound. 184 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,960 And we have to pay the the fee, whether it's a stray or whether the owner 185 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,800 doesn't claim it or whatever. So, part of the issue that we're having now 186 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,120 is that the bureau allotted so much money there 187 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,640 and you know, we had one hoarding house that 188 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,200 kind of was uh humane officer came and took nine cats, 189 00:12:58,839 --> 00:13:04,080 I believe, out of there. Well, that ate up our budget right there. We know who 190 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,240 the person is. These weren't stray animals. These were people that were 191 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,920 caring for. Then another incident last week where 192 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,760 uh somebody tried to take the cats up to the impound. The impound refused them 193 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,880 because they were they fall. Uh 194 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,280 so, then he just drove to a random street up on Claremont and dropped them 195 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,440 out on the front porch because he said Herbert Claxon has money. 196 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:26,800 You know, our department investigated it. We figured out who he is. So, we 197 00:13:24,839 --> 00:13:29,480 know know this guy is. I feel like we should be able to they shouldn't be able 198 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,280 to tax people who come into eat that cost that we should be able to tax them 199 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,720 to eat to kind of go after these people to pass these these these costs along to 200 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,360 that because the people are certain now getting the system, right? It's not 201 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:44,320 going to take long to do that. I know we were dealing with issues with 202 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,920 um people were saying they were going to be 203 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,400 summoned to actually lay in road or something. So that that kind of got 204 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,760 ironed out, but there's still really no way for us to verify. If somebody takes 205 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,800 a dog up in a different pond, I believe we're still if a citizen takes a dog up 206 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,040 there and they say, "Oh yeah, I found it on Summit Avenue." They're just marking 207 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,640 it down as Clark Summit and we're getting billed for it. There's no way to 208 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,520 verify. The dogs they don't ever check in the dogs to make sure for me to vet 209 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:12,160 it and say, "Oh yeah, that dog actually is from Summit Avenue or wherever." 210 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,520 So just think there needs to be a better 211 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:20,440 way for us to be accountable with our money going up there and then um 212 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,480 legally going after people who are are neglecting their animals who are not 213 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,720 taking them up there and then we're having to pay the cost of it. 214 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,320 » Do we do we have any ordinances on the books that allows us to pass that cost 215 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,400 on? >> There is an ordinance on the books, but 216 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:39,400 it's very vague as to specific circumstances. It doesn't cover the 217 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:44,440 gamut. So for example, if someone was 302 and the animals were removed from 218 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:47,560 their home, um I'm not sure if this ordinance would cover that. It'd be a 219 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:53,120 stretch to say so. Um the one definition section here that 220 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,360 talks about police officers seizing an animal is for animals who are at running 221 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,880 at large in the borough. Um so if they're just a stray dog, something 222 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:05,800 along those lines. Um but it doesn't cover kind of what I believe the police 223 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,960 department is currently seeing going on. >> There is nothing in writing that 224 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,240 covers that, right? >> No, correct. There is none. 225 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,960 » We just We just make donations to them. It's kind of an informal 226 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:20,480 » We need We We discussed it and we have an informal agreement that we would take 227 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,440 care of five We would cover the cost of five surrenders. 228 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,920 » How much is a year generally? >> In the surrenders, like 50 bucks or 229 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,200 something? >> Oh, no, $120. 230 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,040 » But But they really They really do it as an obligation. 231 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,120 » Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Cuz well, I think we used to we used to give a $500 232 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,720 donation >> Right. 233 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,320 » uh years ago, and then it became, "Well, no, there's no more donation. You're 234 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,960 actually going to get charged for the animals." 235 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:49,160 We agreed to a limit of five. And that that that's where we are now. 236 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,480 And then this year, especially, we really got it. Like I said, with that 237 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,880 having said with the hoarding hoarding situation, 238 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,480 that took us over right away. >> Of course. 239 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,880 They They don't understand. 240 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Everybody says they're from Clark Summit, but where do they pay their 241 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,720 taxes? >> Right. And they do try. They're 242 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,440 conscious of that. I do know that. I found an old email that Virginia did 243 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:17,640 explain to them that there are seven boroughs and townships that make up 244 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Clark Summit. So, that is an attempt that they do make. They're aware of 245 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,839 that, but it doesn't always mean that that's the way it's going to work. So. 246 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:31,000 » Yeah. Yeah. >> And it's the So, the only time we would 247 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,560 be on the hook is if our police took it up there. So, it's not like any resident 248 00:16:32,839 --> 00:16:37,480 or if they if they found it I don't know if they have to They have like 249 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,320 dog catchers or something like that to find stray dogs? Or 250 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,160 » The only No, Scranton is the only area that has animal control around us here. 251 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:49,320 So, they are like We are animal control for Clark for 252 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,920 So, yeah, no, the way I understand it is if if if Bob Shields finds a dog on 253 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,680 uh with the way and takes it up to different parts, Clark Summit Borough 254 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,839 pays that week. >> Oh, really? 255 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,000 » Just like anybody. That's the way I understand it, yeah. It gets billed 256 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,480 against the borough. >> I believe they're not taking surrenders, 257 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,439 so it would be You can't surrender >> take my dog up there. 258 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,439 » Yeah, surrender, right. But if >> But 259 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,360 » But that's Say you find it on >> Right. 260 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,920 » wherever other town, because South Abington does not pay. 261 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:18,640 So, if you find it on their and say, "Oh, I found this on uh 262 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,920 uh >> whatever street." 263 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,240 » Whatever street in the borough. >> How is it that 264 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,360 we are treated like it's an obligation, but South Abington is not paying? How is 265 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,000 that >> Good question. 266 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:32,360 » They don't respond to this. I think our citizens, I don't know. They They don't 267 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,920 respond to those calls. Our department does. 268 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,920 » Is there any way we can turn it around? >> Yeah. 269 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,800 » If that works for South Abington, and I don't want the the poor dogs to get put 270 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,040 in a bad or cats to be put in >> Right. So, should it That would be sad 271 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,560 if it's just stray animals. >> I mean, they they tried to turn us away 272 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,680 when I tried to take those cats that day. 273 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,840 They said, "You guys don't You guys are only allowed so much money." It was 274 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,360 pulling teeth to get them to take those cats. 275 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:00,480 » Well, then >> And what would happen? We're in a 276 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,520 pickle, and then I mean, what does the residents do then? 277 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,960 » What happens to South Abington Township if the police won't respond to the call 278 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,960 about animals? 279 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,400 » So, these poor residents and dogs run around a lot. 280 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:16,520 » They wait until they run in Clark's Summit. 281 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,600 » That's what Griffin Pond told me. He said that was the initial concern was 282 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,920 that they said, "Oh, well, you're South Abington. You guys don't pay." 283 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,480 I literally had to go there in my collection uniform. 284 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Talk to them. 285 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,720 Beg them. Beg them to take it. 286 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:42,480 » Maybe we're going to have to change that ordinance and say things. I don't know. 287 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:45,680 » The ordinance currently allows us to collect those fees from the owner. It's 288 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,080 just putting a matter of identifying that owner of those animals. So, in the 289 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,120 instance of you know, nine cats being dropped off at 290 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,800 the front door, we don't have any recourse to recover 291 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 those fees. >> I see. 292 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Yeah, I think I think I like like Do you normally make a donation for what? Five? 293 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:06,280 I think five is like an average here. This is just uh 294 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Like I said, one one person with nine sent us over. 295 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,800 » And I mean, again, I I just I mean, the concern I mean, the 296 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:17,760 cost of of doing an ordinance and noticing it, I mean, it's if we're if 297 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,240 it's usually $500, do we really need to It's just reduce worse than squeegee. 298 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,200 » I get it. >> We're better off just doubling our 299 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,440 budget and maybe we don't pay it all in the 300 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:31,160 following year most years. I do. 301 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:34,880 These are huge sums. We just just have to budget on the service. 302 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,400 » Is this year out of the ordinary because of that hoarding situation at all? 303 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,760 » I think yeah, we're >> Okay, I I think so. That's why I got the 304 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,320 phone call. >> Yeah, yeah. 305 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:46,160 » Just because they said, "Hey, >> We knew the two people. It's not If we 306 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:50,920 take a dog up there a lot of times or cats are rare, but if we take a dog up 307 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:54,800 there a lot of times it's We never hear a resolution whether it somebody came 308 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:59,320 and got it or or what. So, 309 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,320 I don't know what happens there, but 310 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,760 definitely happens. Um with our holding service. 311 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,280 » Maybe this year this year is just a a unique year. If it happens again next 312 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,520 year, then maybe we can look at visiting it. 313 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,800 » But we we certainly should look to try to recover what we can in these 314 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,440 instances under whatever ordinance we have. 315 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:23,400 » Yes, so there's a there's a fine that's associated plus the cost of 316 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,760 the donation to the different counties or whatever it may be. So, there's a 317 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,880 fine on top of whatever the cost may be as well. 318 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,320 » Okay, good point. >> Are you getting 319 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,560 » We do So, we cited them with a summary citation. That's why 320 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,520 Can we get recovery that way? 321 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,040 You know, I don't know if there's a summary citation. What's that? 322 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 » I guess we can talk about that after, but potentially, yeah. 323 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,040 » what I mean? >> Yeah. I think you 324 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,000 » It'd be part of the judgment. >> Yeah. 325 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,160 » They actually know the two people. >> So, I'll I'll talk to you after. 326 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,600 I would agree I would agree with Bob on that. I don't I don't think a new 327 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,120 ordinance for the more trouble of drafting and publishing and whatnot is 328 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,640 worth it. Just try to operate with what we have. 329 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,000 » Because what was our total this year January? 330 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:09,200 I think that was it was it was over $1,800 this year. But like I said, it's 331 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,680 definitely an anomaly this year. Definitely. 332 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,840 » Oh, yeah. >> But, just like I just wanted to bring it 333 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,560 to everybody's attention, just in case we wanted to move forward with anything 334 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,920 or change anything. >> Surely. 335 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Oh, yeah. We kind of just watching. 336 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,160 » Sounds good. >> People are following the place here. 337 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:34,800 » Sure. >> Thank you. 338 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Next Saturday, our 9/11 memorial will be Uh Jenny and I talked about this today. 339 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:47,040 And uh 340 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:50,200 Abington has a football game on 9/11, and Josh just said it isn't holiday 341 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,520 time. >> It is, right. 342 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,840 » So. >> Yeah. 343 00:21:51,920 --> 00:22:01,720 » Uh So, we kind of decided that we would do this memorial at 9:00 on the 11th. 344 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:06,240 At our pocket park. And 345 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:12,480 we're going to have somebody from our Lady of Sorrows Church 346 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:14,680 will do that. Uh an addiction for it. And 347 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,120 we just want to speak with first responders 348 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:23,680 having some students from the high school that 349 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:29,160 from the band, someone that could sing God Bless America. We'd like to have 350 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:35,560 some of our firemen that would be able to come through. And also our police 351 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:42,680 department can do a really beautiful dedication. We're also going to have uh 352 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:46,280 a wreath made for the memorial. And uh 353 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,600 we will place that on the memorial that day, too. 354 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,040 » And so, those >> And we'll also deposit on your You'll 355 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,400 let the family >> brothers will be there. 356 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:59,000 » The brothers will be there. They confirmed they would be there. They did 357 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:02,000 also confirm that they would like to uh to pay for the 358 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,600 um for the uh the the memorial that's going 359 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:09,240 up. They did send an email saying that also. 360 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,080 Okay. We'll coordinate how we'd like to do that. 361 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,760 » Is that work scheduled? 362 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,520 » Oh, it's been it already started. I last night uh 363 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:22,240 I went by and took a few shots. They broke ground. They're right in front of 364 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:26,120 the tree. If you're on the sidewalk looking at the 365 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,560 looking at the pocket park of trees right there, it's beautiful. And they're 366 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:34,160 they have it right there. I talked to the master gardeners. They cuz they they 367 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,200 have uh the high sunflowers up right now. So, what they're going to do is 368 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:44,360 they're just going to have something the the fence goes 3 and 1/2 ft to 4 and 1/2 369 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:47,400 ft. And uh they're going to do plantings that are 370 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,280 uh not going to cover it. >> In in in in future 371 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,240 » In the future. Next year. Right. And then they said they would even put more 372 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:58,600 plantings around it, too. Uh yeah, they were terrific. They were terrific. So, 373 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,440 they they're very happy to work with the borough to make sure that that 374 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:06,720 is highlighted. >> I think I think everybody is really 375 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:12,280 working together as a team and secure make this a beautiful beautiful event. 376 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:17,000 It is 25 years and it certainly well deserved. 377 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:21,160 We definitely want to make it over the top. 378 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,880 » And so, we will be planning on 9:00 on September 11th on that Friday if any 379 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,920 council members are you want to let me know who will will be 380 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,000 attending. Of course, I could always send the email out a clip. 381 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,800 » Yeah, we'd like to have a follow-up committee meeting 382 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,200 also, you know, to be there 383 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,080 » and see what the fire and it's probably when the 384 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Hazleton see if any volunteer firefighters would be able to attend. 385 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,560 That would maybe close the office for an hour maybe to be there. That that kind 386 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:53,080 of thing just to show support and respect. 387 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:57,200 » Okay. We're going to continue working on it 388 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,440 and make sure that everything has been goes perfectly. 389 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,520 » Thank you for your very hard work. Jane for all your good hard work on this, 390 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,520 too. 391 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Okay, does anybody have any questions on the 911 392 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,640 or suggestions or anything like that? >> Is there going to be a listing 393 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,560 or >> Oh, yeah. 394 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:21,200 » I will let um Christine Lee with the Times now. 395 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Um and um 396 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,840 I'm not sure really who our our contact is now. Besides him, for the Abington 397 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Journal. >> gone, but he was still working. 398 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,360 » For the journal, is he gone? >> I think he was laid off. 399 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,120 » Oh, he was. I didn't know that. Well, I could always reach out to him or whoever 400 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,560 at the journal. >> Abington Journal. 401 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:40,400 » And I was thinking maybe I'd put it on our billboard. 402 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,600 » Oh, yeah. >> And on our Facebook page and then I put 403 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,840 it like personally on the community page cuz the community page won't post post 404 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,680 anything from the Clarks Summit Borough. So, I just put it on my page. 405 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,840 » It's because the Well, the Abington Journal uh is out at the beginning of 406 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,440 the month. >> Oh, yeah, so that will make a 407 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:03,360 difference, I think. >> because we do have the email for Liz. 408 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:06,000 She said anything that we get pictures, articles, she's willing to put them in, 409 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,640 too. >> Definitely. 410 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:16,560 » So, we will certainly whatever pictures and information we have will get to her 411 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,560 so she can put it in in the next week. 412 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,280 » So, I'll use whatever I have at 413 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:26,680 my disposal to get the word out. >> Right. 414 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Okay. Next item on our agenda is our West Grove Street Bridge sidewalk. 415 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,040 » So, um the school district is not going to 416 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:40,480 be in the West Grove proposal to be maintaining the maintenance of that the 417 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:45,120 bridge on West Grove Street. Um so, they would have to have DPW maintain clean 418 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,640 that for the winter time for the liability purposes. 419 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Um so, I'm not sure what the 420 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:57,120 » The is there, but we we don't have any equipment in place with the school 421 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:01,400 district now to assist us in that maintenance of that bridge. 422 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,400 » And I I did follow up with Dr. Shafer on that topic, and 423 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:10,320 ba- basically what I gather is uh the maintenance that the school district now 424 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:14,680 employs is a contracted service. They're not district employees. And 425 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,280 the contractor just doesn't want to do it. It's not in their contract, and they 426 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:20,120 don't want to do it. >> Oh. 427 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,480 » So, that's really what it comes down to. Um 428 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,480 but you know, it is what it is. Quite frankly, 429 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,280 we haven't maintained the north side of the bridge for years, um and we probably 430 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:35,200 should have. Uh so, we just have to go and do it. 431 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:41,000 » It's been slowly deteriorating, so this is where we are right now. So, 432 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:45,040 » But we need to the DPW believes we need to purchase equipment in order to 433 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:49,480 » because we don't have anything that small to uh 434 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,440 for a snow thrower. We need something that's going to be able to powerful 435 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:57,520 enough to go over the fence. >> Right. So, we definitely say it's there 436 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,720 or exactly those two. >> So, they're going to they're going to 437 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,000 request that budget, and >> Okay. 438 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000 » Jay is aware of that. 439 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,200 » Just keep moving in that direction with that, Andrew. 440 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:14,640 » As long as we have the proper machinery, we can take care of it. 441 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,640 It will be no problem. 442 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,520 » And new business and >> We have to we have to cover the 443 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,480 ordinance that's >> Yes, the open container ordinance. 444 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,200 » Oh, okay. >> Take a vote for that. 445 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:32,360 » Yes. >> I'll make a motion that we approve 446 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:36,400 ordinance number 1-2026. >> I'll second it. 447 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,880 » Question. All in favor. 448 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,240 » Aye. >> Aye. 449 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,760 » All opposed. >> Nay. 450 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,160 » No. >> Okay. 451 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,600 Okay. >> 4-2. 452 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,040 » Then that then >> Uh can I ask one or can I make one 453 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,520 suggestion? Is there any reason in our event 454 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:02,120 um our our special event application process policy that we could not charge 455 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:06,320 a fee for anyone requesting the exemption that now exists inside of 456 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,040 this ordinance to allow us to recover the money we spent to publish it over 457 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,240 time? Is there any reason we couldn't do that? 458 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,000 It's just a policy we set, right? >> You can you could you can certainly do 459 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,600 as well as it takes time out of 460 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,400 » Yeah. I mean we we we passed this because the majority of us believe it's 461 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,240 in our best interest to do it and it's going to make it a lot easier next time 462 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,560 round. But we could also charge a nominal fee to 463 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,880 you know, make sure that it's uh it'll pay for the ordinance itself over time 464 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,720 and um make sure that anybody applying for 465 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400 it is serious about what they're doing. >> option. I like it. 466 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,040 » I I we don't have to discuss that. And it's not on our agenda to set that 467 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,360 policy. I just want to raise that cuz it occurred to me that 468 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:52,000 we could do that. That's all. >> And I'm sorry, we're charging a fee for 469 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:57,480 » If somebody submitted an event uh application where they requested 470 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,000 an exemption to the container 471 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,520 » I understand. Okay. >> manner of application would require a 472 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,760 fee. >> Yep. 473 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Thank you. Next item is our solicitor's report. 474 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,480 » Can I just cover our old business? >> Yes. 475 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,880 » Thank you. That's a good report. 476 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,240 We have no correspondence. And 477 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,280 we're going to uh 478 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:38,080 We're going to go into executive session now. Do you want to do that now, Joshua? 479 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,640 » Yeah, I think we should. Do we um we adjourn first and then go into 480 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,840 executive session? >> Yeah. 481 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:47,520 » Okay. Uh we had known 482 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:51,880 We had one prior personnel and contract negotiation. We had one 483 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,320 prior and no substitute. >> One substitute. Yeah, one substitute. 484 00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:01,240 » Okay, just one prior meeting. So, uh 485 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,400 we will adjourn and then go into our executive session. 486 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,200 » And the purpose of the record we're going into executive session for 487 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,920 personnel matters, lawful purposes, and for contract negotiations. 488 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,880 » I'll make a motion. >> Second. 489 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,040 » Continue, John. >> See you all. 490 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,680 » See you, John. >> Take care. 491 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760 » Okay. 492 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,080 I am just making sure we are off line. 493 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,840 » It looks like we're still on the YouTube up at the top, John. 494 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,840 » Like I said, see how it's got the green? 495 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920 » Okay, let's see. 496 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360 » We are 497 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400 » What happens now that we can go?