1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,560 Motion will come in from 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,080 all over but there's a lot of people 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:04,640 here. 4 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,960 >> Call this meeting call this meeting to 5 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,480 order. 6 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,509 Please rise 7 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:16,560 aliance to the flag of the United States 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,680 of America and to the republic for it 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,960 stands. One nation 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,600 indivisible with liberty justice for 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,680 all. 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,679 right, 13 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:33,360 roll call, please. 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,760 >> Commissioner Wagner is absent um today. 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:47,750 Commissioner Idka. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,320 » Commissioner Idka, 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,079 >> I'm present. Sorry, I'm having 18 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:54,719 technological issues this morning. So, I 19 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,349 appreciate your patience. Thank you. 20 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,399 Commissioner Linder, 21 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:05,519 >> I'm here. 22 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:07,520 >> Commissioner Satanovich, 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,159 >> I'm present. 24 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:11,680 >> Commissioner Carmichael, 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,240 >> present. 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,080 >> Vice Chair Johnson, 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,640 >> present. 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,840 >> Chair Crushau, 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,159 >> present. 30 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:21,439 Thank you. Uh, 31 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:23,759 we can we get a motion to adopt the 32 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:24,799 agenda? 33 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:27,040 >> Move to adopt agenda. motion. Do we have 34 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,680 a second? 35 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,320 >> Second. 36 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,320 >> All those in favor to adopt the agenda. 37 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:32,240 >> Agenda I 38 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,439 >> agenda adopted. Thank you. 39 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,920 >> Uh business from the public, this is an 40 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,520 opportunity for anyone to give a brief 41 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 presentation about any land use planning 42 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,000 issue or county concern that is not on 43 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,630 the agenda. 44 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Hearing none, we'll move on to 45 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,079 discussion. Work session 46 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:59,200 item number two, 2526 work plan update. 47 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,799 >> Yeah, thank you. Good morning, 48 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,159 commissioners. For the record, Gail 49 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:03,759 Hendrickson, community development 50 00:02:03,759 --> 00:02:06,799 director. So, um, every quarter we've 51 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,800 been bringing you the work plan that 52 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,640 your uh, planning commission reviews 53 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:12,400 before we submit it for the budget uh, 54 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 usually in January or February each 55 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,879 year. And then we just want to keep you 56 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,720 informed of where we're at of the work 57 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 plan so that there's accountability for 58 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,160 the planning staff as well as 59 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,720 transparency for the public. Uh a couple 60 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,360 of things to point out 61 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,640 uh in the uh work plan. We did complete 62 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,239 uh several different things with the 63 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:36,239 adoption of goal 16, 17, and 18 earlier 64 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:39,440 this year. That officially 65 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,760 completed the comp plan update process. 66 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,599 It only took six years, give or take. 67 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:47,760 Um, but especially thank you to David 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,680 who shephered the last three goals 69 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,920 through and, uh, got those, uh, wrapped 70 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,120 up for us. So, well done. Um, with the 71 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,920 transportation system plan update, uh, 72 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:59,280 which I think is near the end of the 73 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,080 work program. We last updated the TSP in 74 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,120 2015, so we're really due for an update. 75 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,360 We've applied the past two years for a 76 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,120 transportation and growth management 77 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,360 grant uh and have not been awarded 78 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,560 either year. So this year we are 79 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,400 considering applying again for a third 80 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,040 time. But it also looks fairly certain 81 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,879 that we will be getting some money from 82 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:26,400 ODOT and that ODOT will actually be 83 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,400 hiring the consultant and paying for the 84 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,239 consultant on behalf of Classic County 85 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:32,640 so we can get the plan updated. And so 86 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,760 we do have um some of uh meetings 87 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 scheduled to review uh consultant 88 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,440 proposals later this month I believe or 89 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 into May um and then hopefully with a 90 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,799 start date of July 1st. So, as we're 91 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:48,959 moving through that process, uh, that 92 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:50,879 funding comes through for us, this will 93 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:52,159 be something that we'll be bringing back 94 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:53,680 to your planning commission, giving you 95 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,760 updates, and then, uh, looking to you to 96 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,519 make a recommendation to the board on 97 00:03:57,519 --> 00:03:59,200 whether or not to adopt the 98 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,040 transportation system plan once we're 99 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,640 completed with it. Uh, I don't want to 100 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,040 go too much into my director's report. 101 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,239 Um, but really, we are just, um, 102 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:12,640 continuing to plug along at things. We 103 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,879 will be bringing in June the goal five 104 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,120 updates for the cultural resources and 105 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,840 the new rule making. And then yesterday 106 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:23,199 we just got the 2026 legislative summary 107 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:25,120 from Department of Land Conservation and 108 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,280 Development. So sometime in the fall, 109 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,960 you'll be seeing those legislative 110 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,960 amendments that we do annually coming 111 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,479 through to your planning commission as 112 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:35,360 well. Um other than that, I will just 113 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,120 stop there and see if there's any 114 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,720 questions about anything on the work 115 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,469 plan. Thank you. 116 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:44,160 Uh, I have a question about the 117 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,120 transportation plan and what would be 118 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,880 included in the transportation plan 119 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,000 updates and specifically about um things 120 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,320 that have been talked about for years um 121 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 such as a truck route around Atoria or 122 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,030 also known as a bypass 123 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 and I know it could be a long shot but 124 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,520 maybe it would be important to have it 125 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,720 as a part of this plan that u if if it 126 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,039 was supported by the committ 127 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:14,080 and others that that should be included 128 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,639 in at least looked at as a part of this 129 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:17,919 process. 130 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:20,720 >> Okay. Yeah. So, I will make a note of 131 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,280 that uh so that we can pass that along 132 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,680 to whatever consultants we do are 133 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,720 selected. Um I forgot to add too that we 134 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,120 also had the state uh department of land 135 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,880 conservation and development review the 136 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,960 current transportation system plan and 137 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 gave us a a long list of items that we 138 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,440 need to focus on. I don't remember 139 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,759 specifically if the bypass was one of 140 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:44,479 them. I don't think it was, but they did 141 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:46,960 do the code uh the plan audit and then 142 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,639 kind of laid out a path for us moving 143 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:50,000 forward. But I'll make sure that gets 144 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:50,960 passed along. 145 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,550 >> Okay. 146 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,039 » Any other commissioners? 147 00:05:57,039 --> 00:06:00,629 >> None. Thank you. 148 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:04,240 » All right. Moving on. Uh project status 149 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,960 report. April 2026 project status 150 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,029 report. 151 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:12,160 Thank you. Good morning, planning 152 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,680 commissioners. My name is David Cook, 153 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,440 uh, planning manager with the community 154 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,639 development department. Um, a couple 155 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,120 updates on the project status report for 156 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,199 this month. The first one I'll I'll 157 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:26,240 mention is for ordinance 26-02, 158 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,360 which was our digital zoning maps um, 159 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,720 ordinance. Um, your commission saw this 160 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,120 back in March and we just took it to the 161 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,560 board of commissioners for a first 162 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,039 reading on April 8th. Um, they seem 163 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:40,960 generally supportive of it and it will 164 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,479 be going to its second hearing um on 165 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:46,319 April 22nd with the board and that will 166 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:50,639 be the vote to uh adopt or or not um 167 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:56,000 that order. Um, Commissioner Director Henrikson um took 168 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,800 the administrative variance ordinance um 169 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,560 26-05 170 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,560 to the uh board of commissioners um last 171 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,800 month and was approved and adopted. And 172 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,080 so we are starting to use um or starting 173 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 to be able to use the um code language 174 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 that your um commission recommended to 175 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,479 the board that allowed administrative 176 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:22,639 variances for small deviations to the land use code. So we're we're 177 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,400 excited to be able to use that to to try 178 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,560 and help people um with uh meeting our 179 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,840 standards. Uh couple other small things. 180 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,360 We we're still working on the commercial 181 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,880 and industrial uh zone audits. um trying 182 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,080 to wrap in a pretty comprehensive look 183 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,360 at those zones to see how we can make 184 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,639 permitting streamlined for um commercial 185 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,720 and industrial uses in those zones with 186 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,880 it where they are designated to be. So 187 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,039 hoping to bring that to your commission 188 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:57,599 in June. Um Director Henrikson also 189 00:07:57,599 --> 00:07:59,680 mentioned the goal five uh updates that 190 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,160 we're looking to bring in June um as 191 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,319 well. So, um, that's all I've got on 192 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:05,599 your project status report, unless you 193 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:07,520 have any questions for me. 194 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,560 >> Thank you. Thank you. 195 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,479 Any questions? 196 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:12,960 >> No. 197 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,759 >> Nope. 198 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,919 >> All right. Director's report. April 199 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:17,759 2026, director's report. 200 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:20,720 >> Okay. So, we had a lot to report on this 201 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 month. Uh, the fairgrounds strategic 202 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,120 plan update continues. We're doing our 203 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,960 first public openhouse this Saturday 204 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,160 from noon to 2. We will be in the annex 205 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,039 building which is between the dairy barn 206 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,320 and behind the uh main exhibit hall. So 207 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,000 uh I would encourage if you can't be 208 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,360 there uh go online clatsoccount.gov take 209 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,240 the survey which will be open until 210 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:51,200 April 30th. Uh as of last Tuesday we had 46 respondents in about a 10-day 211 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,040 period which I thought was pretty good. 212 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,360 So we're hoping to um increase that 213 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,680 significantly. Uh but definitely if you 214 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,000 can be out there uh again Saturday noon 215 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,399 to 2 at the fairgrounds. 216 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:05,040 Uh the housing assistance grant that we 217 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,480 received from Department of Land 218 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,040 Conservation and Development uh this is 219 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 going to have their kickoff meeting on 220 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,519 April 21st. Uh we'll be meeting with the 221 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:17,519 consultants and DLCD staff to um set up 222 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:20,560 a schedule and a plan for uh completing 223 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,880 the grant work. The grant work is going 224 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,680 to be focused on uh sites within the 225 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,600 unincorporated area and within the 226 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,560 cities uh and looking taking a deeper 227 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,240 dive into the what we're calling 228 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 opportunity sites to see what sorts of 229 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,279 regulatory infrastructure or natural 230 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,200 hazard constraints might be preventing 231 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,920 development on these particular sites. 232 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,560 and uh just uh the consultant will be 233 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:48,320 putting together um drafts scenarios and 234 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,640 uh some market analysis to determine the 235 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,320 feasibility of getting those sites 236 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 developed and that work is expected to 237 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,160 be completed in March of 2027. So as we 238 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,240 work through that grant process uh we'll 239 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,160 be keeping you informed of any important 240 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,160 dates or progress. 241 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Uh the task force will have its monthly 242 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,080 meeting uh on this uh also I believe 243 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,640 April 21st whatever that Wednesday is at 244 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,399 the end of the month. Um and actually we 245 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,480 moved it sorry to May 22nd because there 246 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,360 was a conflict uh but we will be uh 247 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 having some presentations and just 248 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,480 discussing uh the housing grant status 249 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,399 and uh working with that group. Um FEMA 250 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,120 seemed to have a lot of activity uh over 251 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,200 the past quarter or month or two. Uh the 252 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,320 reports threw out the lawsuit that had 253 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,240 been filed by some environmentalist 254 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,959 groups in 2023 saying that FEMA was not 255 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:46,399 moving quick enough to implement the 256 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:49,279 buyout. the uh courts throughout the 257 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:50,959 case because they felt that it wasn't 258 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:53,839 ripe uh for a lawsuit at this point 259 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:56,160 simply because FEMA has until September 260 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,480 of 2027 to fully implement the 261 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,720 biological opinion and so the court 262 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,040 dismissed that case. Um there's no 263 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,480 update on what it means for the 264 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,959 injunction that was filed uh and what 265 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:08,720 the status of that is. So that's still 266 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 lingering out there somewhere in pending 267 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,440 lawsuit land. Um there's also with the 268 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,600 uh federal budget funding um challenges 269 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,279 that uh some aspects of FEMA's program 270 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:26,880 have not been uh funded or renewed 271 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,399 including um some funding related to the 272 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:32,720 new risk maps which we talked about 273 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,360 maybe maybe about nine months ago that 274 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,680 FEMA was proposing that would have added 275 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,680 significantly more acreage especially in 276 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,519 the Warrington area and about a thousand 277 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:42,959 new structures in the Warrington ion 278 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:45,440 area. So due to lack of funding for 279 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,519 their contractors that implement that 280 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:49,760 program primarily, uh that program's 281 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,680 kind of on hold as well right now and so 282 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:53,839 we don't know what will be happening to 283 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:56,640 that in the in the near future. Uh 284 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,160 there's also been some federal 285 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,880 legislation introduced by Representative 286 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Bence uh from Oregon about clarifying 287 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,200 the role that the Endangered Species Act 288 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,120 plays with the National Flood Insurance 289 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Program. The last I had heard, there 290 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,600 were no co-sponsors for that bill, and I 291 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,360 don't believe that the last time I 292 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,880 checked, there have been any hearings or 293 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,560 anything scheduled on that, but it was 294 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,639 filed. 295 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,839 Um, planning commissioner terms. Our 296 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:26,000 application period closes May 3rd. I 297 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,279 have Commissioner Carmichael's 298 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:29,519 application and I've got about four 299 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:33,680 others, but um Jeremy and Katie, if you 300 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:38,079 plan to apply uh reapply for reappoint, 301 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:39,600 then we just need you to submit your 302 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 applications by May 3rd, please. And 303 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,160 then depending on uh the number of 304 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,839 applicants, the board will probably 305 00:12:45,839 --> 00:12:48,959 conduct interviews. Uh they may not. Uh 306 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:50,480 we're still waiting to determine that 307 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,839 based on the number of applicants and 308 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:53,920 who applies. 309 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Uh we held not we but the county held an 310 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,399 elected officials committee meeting back 311 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,639 on March 12th over at the fairgrounds. 312 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:02,240 This was a meeting between the board of 313 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,240 commissioners and the elected council 314 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,560 people from the various cities along 315 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,920 with the sheriff and uh representatives 316 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,079 legal law enforcement representatives 317 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:14,560 from the city of Atoria and Seaside and 318 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,839 the topic was 911 consolidation. Uh so 319 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,360 there was quite a big discussion about 320 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,399 that. No decisions were made. Obviously, 321 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:24,320 this wasn't a formal meeting to vote on 322 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,240 anything, but to lay out the different 323 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,560 pathways that could be taken to create a 324 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,480 unified 911 system, and then um law 325 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,920 enforcement will be working with the 326 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,000 county manager's office and the cities 327 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,240 to um move that forward during the 328 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,760 remainder of this year and into next 329 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,240 year. 330 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,600 Um, one thing that has been on our work 331 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,440 plan for quite a long time, probably a 332 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 couple years, is the watershed alliance 333 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,560 grant. Uh the county did not fund the 334 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,200 grant, but the county agreed to provide 335 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,519 some inkind services to assist with the 336 00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:01,360 grant work and so um probably a year or 337 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,440 so had gone by where we hadn't had any 338 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,279 updates from the watershed alliance, but 339 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,120 we did get one back at the beginning of 340 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,279 March. Uh and I've included that 341 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:11,920 information for you in your packet. This 342 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,480 was the final report and what the grant 343 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,959 was focused on was looking at the 344 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:21,760 impacts of chemical runoff from uh a 345 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,360 chemical that I forget the name but uh 346 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,760 it is basically a coating that's found 347 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,639 on your tires on your vehicles and as 348 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,199 that chemical breaks down on the 349 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:34,800 roadways it gets washed into the 350 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 waterways and so they were studying the 351 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,639 impacts of that on um salmon and so 352 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:42,720 those conclusions are found in here. 353 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 They're going to continue to do uh 354 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,720 long-term monitoring of water 355 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,079 temperature at various locations 356 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:49,760 throughout the county and public works 357 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,680 has been assisting with that in terms of 358 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,880 placing temperature gauges. Um so uh I 359 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:55,920 don't know that we'll have any more 360 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,760 updates on that, but that's what the 361 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,079 outcome of the grant. 362 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:03,199 And then let's see here. Ah yeah, state 363 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:05,760 rulemaking which never seems to cease 364 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,519 and desist. Uh so the newest uh state 365 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:11,440 rule making that's coming up that we 366 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,639 need to take note of uh is one that is 367 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:17,279 going to look at housing in 368 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:20,399 unincorporated communities. And so 369 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,880 Classup County is kind of I think at the 370 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,800 forefront of this because our board was 371 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,160 very progressive in their housing 372 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,800 amendments and we've already made a lot 373 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,959 of changes to our unincorporated 374 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:33,040 communities of Arch Cape, Westport, 375 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Miles Crossing, Jeff Gardens, um, Napa 376 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,120 Swenson to incorporate a lot of 377 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,959 different housing types including 378 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:43,040 duplexes, multipplexes, cottage 379 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,880 clusters, those types of middle housing 380 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 units and making those changes, reducing 381 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,240 lot sizes, reducing setbacks, things 382 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,519 like that, reducing parking. So, uh, the 383 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:57,120 state now has taken this to heart and is 384 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,880 going to be looking at uninccorporated 385 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 communities throughout the state and 386 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 doing rule making regarding middle 387 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,279 housing in those types of communities. 388 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:07,680 uh staff is probably going to be 389 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,759 requesting to be placed or at least 390 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:11,759 apply to be on that rulemaking advisory 391 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:13,839 committee uh simply because we've been 392 00:16:13,839 --> 00:16:16,399 through this and there may be new things 393 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,880 that come out that could um assist the 394 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,360 county in its housing efforts as well. 395 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,279 So that's kind of a positive thing. And 396 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,199 then there's the undersea infrastructure 397 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:28,079 easements and fees which right now has 398 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:31,360 minimal impact in the county but could 399 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,279 potentially in the future have more 400 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:35,680 significant impact. And what is 401 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,480 happening is that um the department of 402 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,279 state lands is increasing its fees that 403 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:43,920 they're charging applicants for new 404 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,800 cable landings to renew a cable landing 405 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 to decommission a cable landing and for 406 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,839 the easements. And uh there were some 407 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:54,000 calculations that were provided and I 408 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,360 don't know if you had a chance to follow 409 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,759 the link but um there these are 410 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,920 significant increases. I mean in some 411 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,759 cases the application fees are going up 412 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:06,000 200% um that you are going to be paying 413 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,439 by length of cable. Uh and so in some 414 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:11,520 cases in the example they cited it ended 415 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,520 up being a $1.8 million fee for the 416 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,720 decommissioning. Um so it's it's 417 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,880 significant but again of limited impact 418 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,199 here but it also apparently affects 419 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:25,120 things not just cable landings but 420 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:28,559 outfalls that will um are on the ocean 421 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,360 beach. Uh so if there's any water 422 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:33,520 districts or any of the municipalities 423 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,280 have outfalls this could potentially 424 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,120 impact them. So that was the reason we 425 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,320 brought it to your commission's 426 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,960 attention um just so that you're aware 427 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,039 of it in case you hear rumblings about 428 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:45,200 it in the future. 429 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,760 And uh I think oh a couple of other 430 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,480 things um we do we have hired an 431 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,000 electrical inspector. He will be 432 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,160 starting on June 15th. He's coming from 433 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Beaverton. Uh his name is Eric 434 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Elmsshauser and uh again he'll be here 435 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,559 at the middle of June starting and our 436 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,880 recruitment for building official closed 437 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200 on Sunday. So we're in the process now 438 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,280 of reviewing the applicants and 439 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,760 scheduling interviews. And again, Matt 440 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,120 Moore's last day will be June 30th. And 441 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,280 then we'll hopefully have a new building 442 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,360 inspector or building official on board 443 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,160 before then. And other than that, I'm 444 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,600 happy to answer any questions you might 445 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,000 have. 446 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,760 >> How long has Matt How long has Matt been 447 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,640 with the county now? 448 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,919 >> Oh goodness. You know, I should know 449 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:32,310 this. I want to say 450 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,400 nine years, 10 years, maybe a little bit 451 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,200 more. Yeah. 452 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,600 >> Like he's been here a while. Good while. 453 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,960 >> Yeah. Um, 454 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,480 let's see who's proposing the one the fees for the decommissioning in the cable land. 455 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,240 >> Uh, it's depart Department of State 456 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Lands because those landings are 457 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,440 occurring on lands owned by the state 458 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,280 even if they're submerged. 459 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,000 >> Okay. So, that's was that a rule making 460 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,679 process? Legislative. 461 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:01,990 >> Yeah, rulem. 462 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,440 » All right. So, we won't have a whole lot 463 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,520 of say that. We could I mean I suppose 464 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,960 the county could weigh in and and 465 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,039 provide whatever feedback we want. Would 466 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:12,080 that be something that our planning 467 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,280 commission would do or is that something 468 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,200 staff or the the 469 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,919 >> um we would likely as staff and 470 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:19,120 definitely if the planning commission 471 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,720 wanted to weigh in, but we would want 472 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,320 probably the letter to come directly 473 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,880 from the board of commissioners um with 474 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,640 any input from the planning commission 475 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,200 that you might want to give. So I 476 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,200 believe that they are still at the very 477 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,640 beginning of the process. I think that 478 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,360 they have had either one or two meetings 479 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,280 right now and there's still several more 480 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840 months of meetings to go. And these 481 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,520 meetings, these rulemaking advisory 482 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,120 committee meetings are all open to the 483 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,039 public. Um and then there will be a 484 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,520 public comment period once the proposed 485 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,400 rules are drafted and posted for um 486 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,360 consideration. 487 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,400 >> Um can you give us any highlights or uh 488 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,080 significant changes to the fairground 489 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,720 strategic plan? anything I mean other 490 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,919 than show up to the meeting and find 491 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:02,880 out. 492 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,919 >> So um for the past couple of months uh 493 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:07,440 David and I have been doing a lot of 494 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,280 work with the fair board behind the 495 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 scenes uh just putting together the 496 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,919 questions they want to ask the 497 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:15,440 fairgrounds they want to interview the 498 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,440 alternative venues they want to have us 499 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,039 look at and then the stakeholders we 500 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:21,440 need to talk to. So now this is really 501 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,960 the first time where we're really going 502 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600 public. Um so there's not any 503 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,080 recommendations so far at this point. Uh 504 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 we'll get to that probably in late May, 505 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,559 early June. Uh we do have a second open 506 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:35,120 house scheduled in on May 20th, which is 507 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,159 a Wednesday evening from 5:30 to 7:30 at 508 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:40,400 the fairgrounds, which is when we would 509 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,240 look at any new recommendations that 510 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,559 might come out. What we're seeing 511 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:46,880 initially from the surveys that have 512 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,080 been turned in, um there's an emphasis 513 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,120 on deferred maintenance. Um, the 514 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,520 responses we got from the fair board 515 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,440 identified the need to expand the 516 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,760 kitchen and remodel the one that's right 517 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,000 now in the exhibit hall. Adding cooking 518 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 facilities and restrooms to the annex 519 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520 andor the dairy barn. Um, those are some 520 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,159 of the big things. Uh, signage, the need 521 00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:11,840 to improve signage because the 522 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,280 fairgrounds is a little bit out of the 523 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,120 way compared to many other fairgrounds 524 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,400 around the state. Um, electrical and 525 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,159 security upgrades. Um, and not I would 526 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:23,919 say electrical, but really technology 527 00:21:23,919 --> 00:21:26,320 upgrades. Uh, things like the Wi-Fi and 528 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,880 having an electronic reader board and a 529 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 unified PA system so that you can talk 530 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,440 to everybody at once throughout the 531 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000 fairgrounds and those types of things. 532 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,480 Um, we're also looking at fees compared 533 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,320 to other fairgrounds and alternative 534 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,520 venues just to get an idea of how we sit 535 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 in comparison. uh the surveys we've 536 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,840 received so far, the majority of people 537 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,440 thought our fees were about right for 538 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,080 the services that are being provided. Um 539 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,440 but we'll look at that and see what 540 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,880 comes out of that as well. 541 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,400 >> Yeah, I think that's really important 542 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,960 work and uh fairgrounds is a tremendous 543 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,400 asset to the entire county and we all 544 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,720 want to see it be successful. So glad 545 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,120 that that's going through. 546 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,240 >> That's all I had. 547 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,080 >> Okay. Yeah, we did meet uh with 4 last 548 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,320 not last Friday but the Friday before 549 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,159 and they are looking to do some 550 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:17,679 improvements to their building or 551 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:19,760 possibly replace the building because 552 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,520 they need more space and more storage 553 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 area and so they've got a lot of big 554 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,520 plans as well. So probably um in in the 555 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,679 next year you'll probably see them 556 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:32,799 coming forward and then um David do you 557 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:35,120 want to talk about uh the public 558 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,720 hearing? 559 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,240 So, we may actually have to have a 560 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,840 meeting in May. We had talked about 561 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 this, but yeah. 562 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,679 >> Yeah. So, um 563 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:47,760 earlier this year, I guess it would have 564 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,159 been in February, 565 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:51,679 our department received a conditional 566 00:22:51,679 --> 00:22:54,159 use permit application for the Nest 567 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:55,760 Bakery, which is on Sunset Lake and 568 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,919 Lewis Road, right there at the corner. 569 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:02,960 Um the um the restaurant was previously 570 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,200 approved to have no interior seating. Um 571 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,000 because the addition of seating requires 572 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,880 off- streetet parking and if you kind of 573 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,320 know the area and you know their site, 574 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,799 they have zero space to put any off- 575 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,760 streetet parking. Um they now want to 576 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 include some seats in their restaurant. 577 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,640 Um and so that necessitates the need for 578 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320 parking. Of course, there is no place to 579 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,120 put off- streetet parking 580 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,159 except there is public land across the 581 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:36,400 street which is the Sunset Lake Park and boat ramp. 582 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,039 um that land is not part of the county 583 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,360 park system. It's seated to the public. 584 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,080 It's maintained by the public. So, it's 585 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,159 been a little 586 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:47,760 strange 587 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,960 uh or or not not typical how we would 588 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,400 approve a private business to delineate 589 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880 parking spaces on land that's deed to 590 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,960 and maintained by the public. Um, 591 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,720 so how we're thinking of doing this is 592 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,279 um upon a recommendation from your Let 593 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,600 me I'll back up a little bit. So we sent 594 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080 this this application out um through a 595 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,679 public notice to surrounding property 596 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:19,760 owners. It ended up getting a fair bit 597 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520 of attention in social media and so so 598 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,919 we got over 60 public comments on this 599 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:28,640 application. Um, so we've decided to 600 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,880 bring the application forward to your 601 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,799 commission for for a a review and a vote 602 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:37,200 whether to conditionally approve or or 603 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,559 to deny the application. Um, as part of 604 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:44,880 that, there's going to be a 605 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760 um like a a resolution that we would ask 606 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,520 for your commission to make a 607 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,880 recommendation on to the board of 608 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,880 commissioners where the board of 609 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,919 commissioners would then decide um if 610 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:58,960 they would grant a certain area within 611 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,559 the public land at the park or the 612 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,360 creation of a parking lot that would 613 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,400 serve not only this restaurant, but 614 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,559 would also will just be available to the 615 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:12,640 public. So, it would be kind of like a 616 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,240 public park improvement that this 617 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,679 business has to pay for and maintain 618 00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:19,200 that helps them meet their parking 619 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600 requirement, but is not strictly for 620 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,960 their business alone. 621 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,880 >> The county doesn't own that parking lot. 622 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,039 It's how how do we approve something 623 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,080 that's not our 624 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200 >> Well, in probably a weird situation, but 625 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,279 >> yeah, it's it's definitely not normal. 626 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,279 So, in chatting with with county 627 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:44,480 council, there is case law um that that 628 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,919 says basically, you know, land that's deed to the public 629 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:53,120 when when land owner authorization is 630 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,640 needed for something occurring on that 631 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,360 land, the county has uh the say 632 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,559 basically county gets to to to apply for 633 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,799 or approve these things. 634 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,720 So, I don't understand. Deed to the 635 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,400 public, but it's not it's a county, not 636 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,400 state of Oregon. It's correct. Deed to 637 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:12,880 the public. 638 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,400 >> Y and if you go on to um the county's 639 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,440 web maps and put in public the there are 640 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,360 several properties like that that were 641 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,919 deeded in as parts of plats usually for 642 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:26,640 parks or boat ramps. Um but it's no 643 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,240 different than a public street that's 644 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,240 not part of a county road system that's 645 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,159 maintained by the public, open to the 646 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:34,480 public. It's the same concept. What is 647 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,520 that noise? 648 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,789 >> The microphone. 649 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,080 » Just just curious. Sorry. 650 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,799 >> Which one it is? 651 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,600 >> So if there's maintenance there 652 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,360 and I understand what the public is, but 653 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,919 like who who pays for it? 654 00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:55,440 >> The the paying for it. So there was in 655 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,240 the '9s um approval that was given by 656 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,799 the county to a private organization 657 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,039 that was proposing with volleyball court 658 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,679 and play area and I forget what else. 659 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:07,360 >> Yeah. Whatever features they have there 660 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,080 right now. 661 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,679 >> Yeah. And then improvements uh to the boat launch have been paid for by 662 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:15,360 private persons. 663 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,360 >> Oh, 664 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,480 it's I go to the bakery often on the 665 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,720 weekends. I mean, and it's whether 666 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,240 they're seating inside or not, it's 667 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,480 packed. I mean, it it there's a lot of 668 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,120 people. And I myself either park over at 669 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,679 the park or park along the road, which 670 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:33,360 as you know, there's not really I mean, 671 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,039 I have a wide truck and I stick out in 672 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,600 the road when I park there. There's But 673 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,039 it's pretty flourishing business and and 674 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,440 they could probably use some parking. 675 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,200 >> Yeah. and and and so as far as the 676 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400 public comments we received um that had 677 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600 issues with the application, parking and 678 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000 traffic in the surrounding area is by 679 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,559 far the most 680 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,679 uh pressing issue for for people who who 681 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,399 have a an issue with the application. 682 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:04,720 >> Well, I I can applaud staff for trying 683 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,240 to come up with a creative solution and 684 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,159 trying to create a win-win here for the 685 00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:09,600 public. If there's a developed parking 686 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600 lot that everybody has access to for 687 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,279 there is more facilities there like that 688 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,320 boat ramp that people do use um that 689 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,919 could provide a benefit to everybody 690 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,159 that maybe they pay for the development 691 00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:22,640 of a of a and help maintain a parking 692 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,720 lot that the public also has the ability 693 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,880 to use might be a win for everybody 694 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,399 there. 695 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:29,440 >> Yeah. 696 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,039 >> Question I would have is if they've 697 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:32,559 already got a conditional use permit to 698 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,520 have a business there. Is that correct? 699 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,679 How does it differ whether they I mean 700 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:38,960 if you've ever been in there there's not 701 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440 room for much eating maybe 702 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840 five six chairs 10 chairs I don't know 703 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 but what would be the difference is 704 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,000 someone's going there standing up 705 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,919 waiting for their coffee and donuts or 706 00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:52,240 pastries rather than sitting down 707 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,080 because I mean there's still a lot of 708 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,679 parking being utilized whether it's 709 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:00,159 designated for it or not. 710 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:01,200 >> Yeah. 711 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,399 >> Do you understand what I'm asking? 712 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:04,480 >> Yeah, I understand it. The difference 713 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,360 the differences is purely just the 714 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,919 wording of our land use code requires 715 00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:13,279 off- streetet parking for places based 716 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:14,960 on the number of seats that you're 717 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,600 providing. So if I had to guess the the 718 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,919 idea there was if there are no seats 719 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:22,000 people are more like coming and going. 720 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Therefore maybe they park their car for 721 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,480 two, three, five minutes and then they 722 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,240 up and go. But if you can sit down, you 723 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200 park for 30 minutes. That has to be the 724 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,630 idea behind it. 725 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760 So look forward to that next month. 726 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,399 >> Yeah. 727 00:29:42,399 --> 00:29:43,600 >> You have anything else that you wanted 728 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,640 to discuss? 729 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,919 >> Have anything Wayne? 730 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:47,760 >> Oh, good to of the order. I I would like 731 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,399 to bring up something and this is a an 732 00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:52,640 annual workg group meeting that Bruce 733 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200 Moffett, our NRCS district 734 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,399 conservationist, is is having. Uh this 735 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:02,480 is on the 22nd of April at the library 736 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,320 here, meeting room 007, 737 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,399 uh Asteria Public Library, 4 to 5:30. Uh 738 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:13,679 and the reason I bring it up is that 739 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:16,720 there are there are things happening at 740 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880 the NRCS funding level that he's 741 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880 concerned about. There's some major 742 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,760 changes as he points out. He's looking 743 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760 for suggestions 744 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,640 that relate to significant changes in 745 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,799 how we allocate funding and where we are 746 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,880 funding. And that pains to a lot of us, 747 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,880 especially me, we have we have 748 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,440 consistent funding from NRCS for 749 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240 property improvements and wetlands and 750 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120 riparian zones. So, he would like to get 751 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,720 as much input as possible from people 752 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,360 interest or people involved. So again, 753 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,799 that's the 22nd at the public library, 4 754 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,320 to 5:30 in room 007. 755 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,080 Thank you. 756 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,159 >> Is that um for funding that's affecting 757 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:04,399 the uh soil and water conservation 758 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:05,679 district or 759 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:07,679 >> most likely it affects all the funding 760 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:10,480 and how it's how it's the rule making 761 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,080 and how it's allocated and what you have 762 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,520 to do to accommodate the funding that's 763 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,000 affecting me directly and funding that 764 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,960 we've had. 765 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,909 >> Okay. Right. Thank you. 766 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:28,870 » Anything else for good of the order? 767 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,559 » Um, not really good of the order, but 768 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,000 like I said, I told everybody I'm 769 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,279 probably going to miss the next two 770 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,600 meetings having some medical stuff done, 771 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840 so I will probably not be here for the 772 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,120 next two months. 773 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Put it on the 774 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,200 agenda. 775 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,600 >> Okay, 776 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,679 >> anybody else? 777 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:49,519 All right, then we can adjourn. Thank 778 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,320 you. You