[0:00] Motion will come in from
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[0:04] here.
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[0:29] roll call, please.
[0:33] >> Commissioner Wagner is absent um today.
[0:37] Commissioner Idka.
[0:47] » Commissioner Idka,
[0:50] >> I'm present. Sorry, I'm having
[0:52] technological issues this morning. So, I
[0:54] appreciate your patience. Thank you.
[0:59] Commissioner Linder,
[1:02] >> I'm here.
[1:05] >> Commissioner Satanovich,
[1:07] >> I'm present.
[1:10] >> Commissioner Carmichael,
[1:11] >> present.
[1:12] >> Vice Chair Johnson,
[1:14] >> present.
[1:14] >> Chair Crushau,
[1:15] >> present.
[1:18] Thank you. Uh,
[1:21] we can we get a motion to adopt the
[1:23] agenda?
[1:24] >> Move to adopt agenda. motion. Do we have
[1:27] a second?
[1:27] >> Second.
[1:28] >> All those in favor to adopt the agenda.
[1:30] >> Agenda I
[1:32] >> agenda adopted. Thank you.
[1:35] >> Uh business from the public, this is an
[1:37] opportunity for anyone to give a brief
[1:39] presentation about any land use planning
[1:41] issue or county concern that is not on
[1:44] the agenda.
[1:48] Hearing none, we'll move on to
[1:51] discussion. Work session
[1:54] item number two, 2526 work plan update.
[1:59] >> Yeah, thank you. Good morning,
[2:00] commissioners. For the record, Gail
[2:02] Hendrickson, community development
[2:03] director. So, um, every quarter we've
[2:06] been bringing you the work plan that
[2:08] your uh, planning commission reviews
[2:10] before we submit it for the budget uh,
[2:12] usually in January or February each
[2:14] year. And then we just want to keep you
[2:16] informed of where we're at of the work
[2:18] plan so that there's accountability for
[2:20] the planning staff as well as
[2:22] transparency for the public. Uh a couple
[2:24] of things to point out
[2:27] uh in the uh work plan. We did complete
[2:30] uh several different things with the
[2:32] adoption of goal 16, 17, and 18 earlier
[2:36] this year. That officially
[2:39] completed the comp plan update process.
[2:41] It only took six years, give or take.
[2:45] Um, but especially thank you to David
[2:47] who shephered the last three goals
[2:49] through and, uh, got those, uh, wrapped
[2:51] up for us. So, well done. Um, with the
[2:55] transportation system plan update, uh,
[2:57] which I think is near the end of the
[2:59] work program. We last updated the TSP in
[3:04] 2015, so we're really due for an update.
[3:07] We've applied the past two years for a
[3:09] transportation and growth management
[3:11] grant uh and have not been awarded
[3:13] either year. So this year we are
[3:16] considering applying again for a third
[3:18] time. But it also looks fairly certain
[3:21] that we will be getting some money from
[3:22] ODOT and that ODOT will actually be
[3:26] hiring the consultant and paying for the
[3:28] consultant on behalf of Classic County
[3:30] so we can get the plan updated. And so
[3:32] we do have um some of uh meetings
[3:35] scheduled to review uh consultant
[3:38] proposals later this month I believe or
[3:41] into May um and then hopefully with a
[3:44] start date of July 1st. So, as we're
[3:46] moving through that process, uh, that
[3:48] funding comes through for us, this will
[3:50] be something that we'll be bringing back
[3:52] to your planning commission, giving you
[3:53] updates, and then, uh, looking to you to
[3:55] make a recommendation to the board on
[3:57] whether or not to adopt the
[3:59] transportation system plan once we're
[4:01] completed with it. Uh, I don't want to
[4:04] go too much into my director's report.
[4:07] Um, but really, we are just, um,
[4:10] continuing to plug along at things. We
[4:12] will be bringing in June the goal five
[4:14] updates for the cultural resources and
[4:17] the new rule making. And then yesterday
[4:19] we just got the 2026 legislative summary
[4:23] from Department of Land Conservation and
[4:25] Development. So sometime in the fall,
[4:27] you'll be seeing those legislative
[4:28] amendments that we do annually coming
[4:30] through to your planning commission as
[4:32] well. Um other than that, I will just
[4:35] stop there and see if there's any
[4:37] questions about anything on the work
[4:38] plan. Thank you.
[4:42] Uh, I have a question about the
[4:44] transportation plan and what would be
[4:47] included in the transportation plan
[4:48] updates and specifically about um things
[4:52] that have been talked about for years um
[4:54] such as a truck route around Atoria or
[4:56] also known as a bypass
[5:01] and I know it could be a long shot but
[5:04] maybe it would be important to have it
[5:05] as a part of this plan that u if if it
[5:08] was supported by the committ
[5:11] and others that that should be included
[5:14] in at least looked at as a part of this
[5:16] process.
[5:17] >> Okay. Yeah. So, I will make a note of
[5:20] that uh so that we can pass that along
[5:23] to whatever consultants we do are
[5:25] selected. Um I forgot to add too that we
[5:28] also had the state uh department of land
[5:31] conservation and development review the
[5:32] current transportation system plan and
[5:34] gave us a a long list of items that we
[5:37] need to focus on. I don't remember
[5:39] specifically if the bypass was one of
[5:41] them. I don't think it was, but they did
[5:44] do the code uh the plan audit and then
[5:46] kind of laid out a path for us moving
[5:48] forward. But I'll make sure that gets
[5:50] passed along.
[5:50] >> Okay.
[5:54] » Any other commissioners?
[5:57] >> None. Thank you.
[6:00] » All right. Moving on. Uh project status
[6:04] report. April 2026 project status
[6:06] report.
[6:11] Thank you. Good morning, planning
[6:12] commissioners. My name is David Cook,
[6:13] uh, planning manager with the community
[6:15] development department. Um, a couple
[6:18] updates on the project status report for
[6:21] this month. The first one I'll I'll
[6:23] mention is for ordinance 26-02,
[6:26] which was our digital zoning maps um,
[6:29] ordinance. Um, your commission saw this
[6:32] back in March and we just took it to the
[6:35] board of commissioners for a first
[6:36] reading on April 8th. Um, they seem
[6:39] generally supportive of it and it will
[6:40] be going to its second hearing um on
[6:44] April 22nd with the board and that will
[6:46] be the vote to uh adopt or or not um
[6:50] that order. Um, Commissioner Director Henrikson um took
[6:56] the administrative variance ordinance um
[6:58] 26-05
[7:00] to the uh board of commissioners um last
[7:04] month and was approved and adopted. And
[7:06] so we are starting to use um or starting
[7:10] to be able to use the um code language
[7:13] that your um commission recommended to
[7:16] the board that allowed administrative
[7:18] variances for small deviations to the land use code. So we're we're
[7:22] excited to be able to use that to to try
[7:24] and help people um with uh meeting our
[7:28] standards. Uh couple other small things.
[7:31] We we're still working on the commercial
[7:33] and industrial uh zone audits. um trying
[7:36] to wrap in a pretty comprehensive look
[7:40] at those zones to see how we can make
[7:43] permitting streamlined for um commercial
[7:46] and industrial uses in those zones with
[7:48] it where they are designated to be. So
[7:50] hoping to bring that to your commission
[7:53] in June. Um Director Henrikson also
[7:57] mentioned the goal five uh updates that
[7:59] we're looking to bring in June um as
[8:02] well. So, um, that's all I've got on
[8:04] your project status report, unless you
[8:05] have any questions for me.
[8:07] >> Thank you. Thank you.
[8:10] Any questions?
[8:12] >> No.
[8:12] >> Nope.
[8:13] >> All right. Director's report. April
[8:15] 2026, director's report.
[8:17] >> Okay. So, we had a lot to report on this
[8:20] month. Uh, the fairgrounds strategic
[8:22] plan update continues. We're doing our
[8:25] first public openhouse this Saturday
[8:26] from noon to 2. We will be in the annex
[8:30] building which is between the dairy barn
[8:33] and behind the uh main exhibit hall. So
[8:36] uh I would encourage if you can't be
[8:38] there uh go online clatsoccount.gov take
[8:41] the survey which will be open until
[8:44] April 30th. Uh as of last Tuesday we had 46 respondents in about a 10-day
[8:51] period which I thought was pretty good.
[8:53] So we're hoping to um increase that
[8:55] significantly. Uh but definitely if you
[8:57] can be out there uh again Saturday noon
[9:00] to 2 at the fairgrounds.
[9:02] Uh the housing assistance grant that we
[9:05] received from Department of Land
[9:06] Conservation and Development uh this is
[9:09] going to have their kickoff meeting on
[9:10] April 21st. Uh we'll be meeting with the
[9:13] consultants and DLCD staff to um set up
[9:17] a schedule and a plan for uh completing
[9:20] the grant work. The grant work is going
[9:22] to be focused on uh sites within the
[9:25] unincorporated area and within the
[9:27] cities uh and looking taking a deeper
[9:30] dive into the what we're calling
[9:32] opportunity sites to see what sorts of
[9:34] regulatory infrastructure or natural
[9:37] hazard constraints might be preventing
[9:39] development on these particular sites.
[9:41] and uh just uh the consultant will be
[9:44] putting together um drafts scenarios and
[9:48] uh some market analysis to determine the
[9:50] feasibility of getting those sites
[9:52] developed and that work is expected to
[9:54] be completed in March of 2027. So as we
[9:58] work through that grant process uh we'll
[10:00] be keeping you informed of any important
[10:02] dates or progress.
[10:04] Uh the task force will have its monthly
[10:06] meeting uh on this uh also I believe
[10:10] April 21st whatever that Wednesday is at
[10:12] the end of the month. Um and actually we
[10:16] moved it sorry to May 22nd because there
[10:18] was a conflict uh but we will be uh
[10:21] having some presentations and just
[10:23] discussing uh the housing grant status
[10:26] and uh working with that group. Um FEMA
[10:30] seemed to have a lot of activity uh over
[10:33] the past quarter or month or two. Uh the
[10:37] reports threw out the lawsuit that had
[10:40] been filed by some environmentalist
[10:42] groups in 2023 saying that FEMA was not
[10:44] moving quick enough to implement the
[10:46] buyout. the uh courts throughout the
[10:49] case because they felt that it wasn't
[10:50] ripe uh for a lawsuit at this point
[10:53] simply because FEMA has until September
[10:56] of 2027 to fully implement the
[10:58] biological opinion and so the court
[11:00] dismissed that case. Um there's no
[11:03] update on what it means for the
[11:04] injunction that was filed uh and what
[11:06] the status of that is. So that's still
[11:08] lingering out there somewhere in pending
[11:11] lawsuit land. Um there's also with the
[11:15] uh federal budget funding um challenges
[11:19] that uh some aspects of FEMA's program
[11:23] have not been uh funded or renewed
[11:26] including um some funding related to the
[11:30] new risk maps which we talked about
[11:32] maybe maybe about nine months ago that
[11:35] FEMA was proposing that would have added
[11:37] significantly more acreage especially in
[11:39] the Warrington area and about a thousand
[11:41] new structures in the Warrington ion
[11:42] area. So due to lack of funding for
[11:45] their contractors that implement that
[11:47] program primarily, uh that program's
[11:49] kind of on hold as well right now and so
[11:51] we don't know what will be happening to
[11:53] that in the in the near future. Uh
[11:56] there's also been some federal
[11:58] legislation introduced by Representative
[12:00] Bence uh from Oregon about clarifying
[12:04] the role that the Endangered Species Act
[12:07] plays with the National Flood Insurance
[12:09] Program. The last I had heard, there
[12:11] were no co-sponsors for that bill, and I
[12:13] don't believe that the last time I
[12:15] checked, there have been any hearings or
[12:16] anything scheduled on that, but it was
[12:18] filed.
[12:20] Um, planning commissioner terms. Our
[12:23] application period closes May 3rd. I
[12:26] have Commissioner Carmichael's
[12:27] application and I've got about four
[12:29] others, but um Jeremy and Katie, if you
[12:33] plan to apply uh reapply for reappoint,
[12:38] then we just need you to submit your
[12:39] applications by May 3rd, please. And
[12:42] then depending on uh the number of
[12:44] applicants, the board will probably
[12:45] conduct interviews. Uh they may not. Uh
[12:48] we're still waiting to determine that
[12:50] based on the number of applicants and
[12:51] who applies.
[12:53] Uh we held not we but the county held an
[12:56] elected officials committee meeting back
[12:58] on March 12th over at the fairgrounds.
[13:00] This was a meeting between the board of
[13:02] commissioners and the elected council
[13:04] people from the various cities along
[13:06] with the sheriff and uh representatives
[13:09] legal law enforcement representatives
[13:12] from the city of Atoria and Seaside and
[13:14] the topic was 911 consolidation. Uh so
[13:17] there was quite a big discussion about
[13:19] that. No decisions were made. Obviously,
[13:22] this wasn't a formal meeting to vote on
[13:24] anything, but to lay out the different
[13:26] pathways that could be taken to create a
[13:28] unified 911 system, and then um law
[13:32] enforcement will be working with the
[13:33] county manager's office and the cities
[13:36] to um move that forward during the
[13:38] remainder of this year and into next
[13:39] year.
[13:42] Um, one thing that has been on our work
[13:45] plan for quite a long time, probably a
[13:47] couple years, is the watershed alliance
[13:49] grant. Uh the county did not fund the
[13:52] grant, but the county agreed to provide
[13:55] some inkind services to assist with the
[13:57] grant work and so um probably a year or
[14:01] so had gone by where we hadn't had any
[14:03] updates from the watershed alliance, but
[14:05] we did get one back at the beginning of
[14:07] March. Uh and I've included that
[14:09] information for you in your packet. This
[14:11] was the final report and what the grant
[14:14] was focused on was looking at the
[14:16] impacts of chemical runoff from uh a
[14:21] chemical that I forget the name but uh
[14:25] it is basically a coating that's found
[14:27] on your tires on your vehicles and as
[14:30] that chemical breaks down on the
[14:33] roadways it gets washed into the
[14:34] waterways and so they were studying the
[14:36] impacts of that on um salmon and so
[14:40] those conclusions are found in here.
[14:42] They're going to continue to do uh
[14:45] long-term monitoring of water
[14:46] temperature at various locations
[14:48] throughout the county and public works
[14:49] has been assisting with that in terms of
[14:51] placing temperature gauges. Um so uh I
[14:54] don't know that we'll have any more
[14:55] updates on that, but that's what the
[14:57] outcome of the grant.
[15:00] And then let's see here. Ah yeah, state
[15:03] rulemaking which never seems to cease
[15:05] and desist. Uh so the newest uh state
[15:09] rule making that's coming up that we
[15:11] need to take note of uh is one that is
[15:14] going to look at housing in
[15:17] unincorporated communities. And so
[15:20] Classup County is kind of I think at the
[15:22] forefront of this because our board was
[15:24] very progressive in their housing
[15:26] amendments and we've already made a lot
[15:28] of changes to our unincorporated
[15:30] communities of Arch Cape, Westport,
[15:33] Miles Crossing, Jeff Gardens, um, Napa
[15:36] Swenson to incorporate a lot of
[15:39] different housing types including
[15:40] duplexes, multipplexes, cottage
[15:43] clusters, those types of middle housing
[15:44] units and making those changes, reducing
[15:47] lot sizes, reducing setbacks, things
[15:50] like that, reducing parking. So, uh, the
[15:53] state now has taken this to heart and is
[15:57] going to be looking at uninccorporated
[15:58] communities throughout the state and
[16:00] doing rule making regarding middle
[16:02] housing in those types of communities.
[16:05] uh staff is probably going to be
[16:07] requesting to be placed or at least
[16:09] apply to be on that rulemaking advisory
[16:11] committee uh simply because we've been
[16:13] through this and there may be new things
[16:16] that come out that could um assist the
[16:18] county in its housing efforts as well.
[16:21] So that's kind of a positive thing. And
[16:23] then there's the undersea infrastructure
[16:25] easements and fees which right now has
[16:28] minimal impact in the county but could
[16:31] potentially in the future have more
[16:33] significant impact. And what is
[16:35] happening is that um the department of
[16:38] state lands is increasing its fees that
[16:41] they're charging applicants for new
[16:43] cable landings to renew a cable landing
[16:46] to decommission a cable landing and for
[16:49] the easements. And uh there were some
[16:51] calculations that were provided and I
[16:54] don't know if you had a chance to follow
[16:55] the link but um there these are
[16:57] significant increases. I mean in some
[16:59] cases the application fees are going up
[17:01] 200% um that you are going to be paying
[17:06] by length of cable. Uh and so in some
[17:09] cases in the example they cited it ended
[17:11] up being a $1.8 million fee for the
[17:15] decommissioning. Um so it's it's
[17:18] significant but again of limited impact
[17:20] here but it also apparently affects
[17:23] things not just cable landings but
[17:25] outfalls that will um are on the ocean
[17:28] beach. Uh so if there's any water
[17:31] districts or any of the municipalities
[17:33] have outfalls this could potentially
[17:35] impact them. So that was the reason we
[17:37] brought it to your commission's
[17:38] attention um just so that you're aware
[17:40] of it in case you hear rumblings about
[17:43] it in the future.
[17:45] And uh I think oh a couple of other
[17:47] things um we do we have hired an
[17:50] electrical inspector. He will be
[17:52] starting on June 15th. He's coming from
[17:54] Beaverton. Uh his name is Eric
[17:56] Elmsshauser and uh again he'll be here
[17:59] at the middle of June starting and our
[18:02] recruitment for building official closed
[18:04] on Sunday. So we're in the process now
[18:07] of reviewing the applicants and
[18:09] scheduling interviews. And again, Matt
[18:11] Moore's last day will be June 30th. And
[18:15] then we'll hopefully have a new building
[18:17] inspector or building official on board
[18:19] before then. And other than that, I'm
[18:22] happy to answer any questions you might
[18:23] have.
[18:24] >> How long has Matt How long has Matt been
[18:25] with the county now?
[18:26] >> Oh goodness. You know, I should know
[18:27] this. I want to say
[18:32] nine years, 10 years, maybe a little bit
[18:34] more. Yeah.
[18:35] >> Like he's been here a while. Good while.
[18:37] >> Yeah. Um,
[18:40] let's see who's proposing the one the fees for the decommissioning in the cable land.
[18:46] >> Uh, it's depart Department of State
[18:48] Lands because those landings are
[18:49] occurring on lands owned by the state
[18:51] even if they're submerged.
[18:53] >> Okay. So, that's was that a rule making
[18:56] process? Legislative.
[18:57] >> Yeah, rulem.
[19:02] » All right. So, we won't have a whole lot
[19:03] of say that. We could I mean I suppose
[19:05] the county could weigh in and and
[19:08] provide whatever feedback we want. Would
[19:11] that be something that our planning
[19:12] commission would do or is that something
[19:13] staff or the the
[19:15] >> um we would likely as staff and
[19:17] definitely if the planning commission
[19:19] wanted to weigh in, but we would want
[19:20] probably the letter to come directly
[19:22] from the board of commissioners um with
[19:24] any input from the planning commission
[19:26] that you might want to give. So I
[19:29] believe that they are still at the very
[19:31] beginning of the process. I think that
[19:32] they have had either one or two meetings
[19:35] right now and there's still several more
[19:37] months of meetings to go. And these
[19:39] meetings, these rulemaking advisory
[19:41] committee meetings are all open to the
[19:43] public. Um and then there will be a
[19:45] public comment period once the proposed
[19:47] rules are drafted and posted for um
[19:50] consideration.
[19:53] >> Um can you give us any highlights or uh
[19:56] significant changes to the fairground
[19:58] strategic plan? anything I mean other
[20:00] than show up to the meeting and find
[20:01] out.
[20:02] >> So um for the past couple of months uh
[20:05] David and I have been doing a lot of
[20:07] work with the fair board behind the
[20:09] scenes uh just putting together the
[20:11] questions they want to ask the
[20:13] fairgrounds they want to interview the
[20:15] alternative venues they want to have us
[20:17] look at and then the stakeholders we
[20:19] need to talk to. So now this is really
[20:21] the first time where we're really going
[20:22] public. Um so there's not any
[20:25] recommendations so far at this point. Uh
[20:28] we'll get to that probably in late May,
[20:30] early June. Uh we do have a second open
[20:32] house scheduled in on May 20th, which is
[20:35] a Wednesday evening from 5:30 to 7:30 at
[20:38] the fairgrounds, which is when we would
[20:40] look at any new recommendations that
[20:42] might come out. What we're seeing
[20:44] initially from the surveys that have
[20:46] been turned in, um there's an emphasis
[20:50] on deferred maintenance. Um, the
[20:53] responses we got from the fair board
[20:55] identified the need to expand the
[20:57] kitchen and remodel the one that's right
[20:59] now in the exhibit hall. Adding cooking
[21:02] facilities and restrooms to the annex
[21:04] andor the dairy barn. Um, those are some
[21:07] of the big things. Uh, signage, the need
[21:10] to improve signage because the
[21:11] fairgrounds is a little bit out of the
[21:13] way compared to many other fairgrounds
[21:15] around the state. Um, electrical and
[21:18] security upgrades. Um, and not I would
[21:22] say electrical, but really technology
[21:23] upgrades. Uh, things like the Wi-Fi and
[21:26] having an electronic reader board and a
[21:28] unified PA system so that you can talk
[21:32] to everybody at once throughout the
[21:33] fairgrounds and those types of things.
[21:36] Um, we're also looking at fees compared
[21:38] to other fairgrounds and alternative
[21:40] venues just to get an idea of how we sit
[21:43] in comparison. uh the surveys we've
[21:45] received so far, the majority of people
[21:47] thought our fees were about right for
[21:49] the services that are being provided. Um
[21:52] but we'll look at that and see what
[21:53] comes out of that as well.
[21:54] >> Yeah, I think that's really important
[21:56] work and uh fairgrounds is a tremendous
[21:58] asset to the entire county and we all
[22:02] want to see it be successful. So glad
[22:04] that that's going through.
[22:07] >> That's all I had.
[22:08] >> Okay. Yeah, we did meet uh with 4 last
[22:12] not last Friday but the Friday before
[22:14] and they are looking to do some
[22:16] improvements to their building or
[22:17] possibly replace the building because
[22:19] they need more space and more storage
[22:21] area and so they've got a lot of big
[22:23] plans as well. So probably um in in the
[22:27] next year you'll probably see them
[22:29] coming forward and then um David do you
[22:32] want to talk about uh the public
[22:35] hearing?
[22:36] So, we may actually have to have a
[22:38] meeting in May. We had talked about
[22:39] this, but yeah.
[22:41] >> Yeah. So, um
[22:45] earlier this year, I guess it would have
[22:47] been in February,
[22:50] our department received a conditional
[22:51] use permit application for the Nest
[22:54] Bakery, which is on Sunset Lake and
[22:55] Lewis Road, right there at the corner.
[22:57] Um the um the restaurant was previously
[23:02] approved to have no interior seating. Um
[23:07] because the addition of seating requires
[23:10] off- streetet parking and if you kind of
[23:12] know the area and you know their site,
[23:14] they have zero space to put any off-
[23:16] streetet parking. Um they now want to
[23:19] include some seats in their restaurant.
[23:22] Um and so that necessitates the need for
[23:24] parking. Of course, there is no place to
[23:26] put off- streetet parking
[23:29] except there is public land across the
[23:32] street which is the Sunset Lake Park and boat ramp.
[23:36] um that land is not part of the county
[23:39] park system. It's seated to the public.
[23:41] It's maintained by the public. So, it's
[23:44] been a little
[23:46] strange
[23:47] uh or or not not typical how we would
[23:52] approve a private business to delineate
[23:56] parking spaces on land that's deed to
[23:58] and maintained by the public. Um,
[24:02] so how we're thinking of doing this is
[24:06] um upon a recommendation from your Let
[24:11] me I'll back up a little bit. So we sent
[24:13] this this application out um through a
[24:16] public notice to surrounding property
[24:17] owners. It ended up getting a fair bit
[24:19] of attention in social media and so so
[24:21] we got over 60 public comments on this
[24:23] application. Um, so we've decided to
[24:28] bring the application forward to your
[24:30] commission for for a a review and a vote
[24:34] whether to conditionally approve or or
[24:37] to deny the application. Um, as part of
[24:40] that, there's going to be a
[24:44] um like a a resolution that we would ask
[24:47] for your commission to make a
[24:49] recommendation on to the board of
[24:50] commissioners where the board of
[24:52] commissioners would then decide um if
[24:55] they would grant a certain area within
[24:58] the public land at the park or the
[25:02] creation of a parking lot that would
[25:05] serve not only this restaurant, but
[25:08] would also will just be available to the
[25:10] public. So, it would be kind of like a
[25:12] public park improvement that this
[25:14] business has to pay for and maintain
[25:17] that helps them meet their parking
[25:19] requirement, but is not strictly for
[25:21] their business alone.
[25:24] >> The county doesn't own that parking lot.
[25:26] It's how how do we approve something
[25:29] that's not our
[25:32] >> Well, in probably a weird situation, but
[25:35] >> yeah, it's it's definitely not normal.
[25:37] So, in chatting with with county
[25:39] council, there is case law um that that
[25:44] says basically, you know, land that's deed to the public
[25:49] when when land owner authorization is
[25:53] needed for something occurring on that
[25:54] land, the county has uh the say
[25:59] basically county gets to to to apply for
[26:02] or approve these things.
[26:04] So, I don't understand. Deed to the
[26:06] public, but it's not it's a county, not
[26:10] state of Oregon. It's correct. Deed to
[26:12] the public.
[26:12] >> Y and if you go on to um the county's
[26:16] web maps and put in public the there are
[26:19] several properties like that that were
[26:21] deeded in as parts of plats usually for
[26:23] parks or boat ramps. Um but it's no
[26:26] different than a public street that's
[26:28] not part of a county road system that's
[26:30] maintained by the public, open to the
[26:32] public. It's the same concept. What is
[26:34] that noise?
[26:35] >> The microphone.
[26:42] » Just just curious. Sorry.
[26:44] >> Which one it is?
[26:44] >> So if there's maintenance there
[26:47] and I understand what the public is, but
[26:49] like who who pays for it?
[26:51] >> The the paying for it. So there was in
[26:55] the '9s um approval that was given by
[26:58] the county to a private organization
[27:00] that was proposing with volleyball court
[27:03] and play area and I forget what else.
[27:05] >> Yeah. Whatever features they have there
[27:07] right now.
[27:08] >> Yeah. And then improvements uh to the boat launch have been paid for by
[27:13] private persons.
[27:15] >> Oh,
[27:17] it's I go to the bakery often on the
[27:20] weekends. I mean, and it's whether
[27:22] they're seating inside or not, it's
[27:24] packed. I mean, it it there's a lot of
[27:26] people. And I myself either park over at
[27:29] the park or park along the road, which
[27:31] as you know, there's not really I mean,
[27:33] I have a wide truck and I stick out in
[27:35] the road when I park there. There's But
[27:37] it's pretty flourishing business and and
[27:41] they could probably use some parking.
[27:43] >> Yeah. and and and so as far as the
[27:45] public comments we received um that had
[27:48] issues with the application, parking and
[27:51] traffic in the surrounding area is by
[27:54] far the most
[27:56] uh pressing issue for for people who who
[27:59] have a an issue with the application.
[28:02] >> Well, I I can applaud staff for trying
[28:04] to come up with a creative solution and
[28:06] trying to create a win-win here for the
[28:08] public. If there's a developed parking
[28:09] lot that everybody has access to for
[28:11] there is more facilities there like that
[28:13] boat ramp that people do use um that
[28:16] could provide a benefit to everybody
[28:17] that maybe they pay for the development
[28:20] of a of a and help maintain a parking
[28:22] lot that the public also has the ability
[28:24] to use might be a win for everybody
[28:26] there.
[28:28] >> Yeah.
[28:29] >> Question I would have is if they've
[28:31] already got a conditional use permit to
[28:32] have a business there. Is that correct?
[28:35] How does it differ whether they I mean
[28:37] if you've ever been in there there's not
[28:38] room for much eating maybe
[28:41] five six chairs 10 chairs I don't know
[28:43] but what would be the difference is
[28:46] someone's going there standing up
[28:48] waiting for their coffee and donuts or
[28:49] pastries rather than sitting down
[28:52] because I mean there's still a lot of
[28:54] parking being utilized whether it's
[28:57] designated for it or not.
[29:00] >> Yeah.
[29:01] >> Do you understand what I'm asking?
[29:02] >> Yeah, I understand it. The difference
[29:04] the differences is purely just the
[29:07] wording of our land use code requires
[29:09] off- streetet parking for places based
[29:13] on the number of seats that you're
[29:14] providing. So if I had to guess the the
[29:17] idea there was if there are no seats
[29:19] people are more like coming and going.
[29:22] Therefore maybe they park their car for
[29:24] two, three, five minutes and then they
[29:26] up and go. But if you can sit down, you
[29:28] park for 30 minutes. That has to be the
[29:31] idea behind it.
[29:36] So look forward to that next month.
[29:39] >> Yeah.
[29:42] >> You have anything else that you wanted
[29:43] to discuss?
[29:44] >> Have anything Wayne?
[29:45] >> Oh, good to of the order. I I would like
[29:47] to bring up something and this is a an
[29:50] annual workg group meeting that Bruce
[29:52] Moffett, our NRCS district
[29:55] conservationist, is is having. Uh this
[29:58] is on the 22nd of April at the library
[30:02] here, meeting room 007,
[30:06] uh Asteria Public Library, 4 to 5:30. Uh
[30:10] and the reason I bring it up is that
[30:13] there are there are things happening at
[30:16] the NRCS funding level that he's
[30:18] concerned about. There's some major
[30:20] changes as he points out. He's looking
[30:23] for suggestions
[30:25] that relate to significant changes in
[30:28] how we allocate funding and where we are
[30:30] funding. And that pains to a lot of us,
[30:34] especially me, we have we have
[30:36] consistent funding from NRCS for
[30:39] property improvements and wetlands and
[30:42] riparian zones. So, he would like to get
[30:45] as much input as possible from people
[30:48] interest or people involved. So again,
[30:51] that's the 22nd at the public library, 4
[30:54] to 5:30 in room 007.
[30:58] Thank you.
[31:00] >> Is that um for funding that's affecting
[31:02] the uh soil and water conservation
[31:04] district or
[31:05] >> most likely it affects all the funding
[31:07] and how it's how it's the rule making
[31:10] and how it's allocated and what you have
[31:12] to do to accommodate the funding that's
[31:15] affecting me directly and funding that
[31:18] we've had.
[31:18] >> Okay. Right. Thank you.
[31:23] » Anything else for good of the order?
[31:28] » Um, not really good of the order, but
[31:30] like I said, I told everybody I'm
[31:32] probably going to miss the next two
[31:33] meetings having some medical stuff done,
[31:35] so I will probably not be here for the
[31:37] next two months.
[31:41] Put it on the
[31:43] agenda.
[31:45] >> Okay,
[31:45] >> anybody else?
[31:47] All right, then we can adjourn. Thank
[31:49] you. You