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Parks and recreation month celebrate the vital role parks and recreation professionals play in building healthier

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stronger and more connected communities. We're pleased today to recognise parks and recreation

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professionals who made it all possible for us here at clay

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county park justin spears is here with us with awesome

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service members to read today. >> clay county parks and

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recreation areas preserve the county's cultural historical and

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ecological resources while providing families with opportunities to connect with nature and enjoy a high quality

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of life and whereas access to parks and recreation promotes

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physical health through active lifestyle and supports well-being by reducing stress, strengthening relationships and

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providing opportunities for children and adults to experience and enjoy the outdoor and whereas parks and recreation

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programs educational activities including community events like youth sports and environmental education are essential to the

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healthy development of children and/or as designated parks and recreation areas also promote economic prosperity through

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increased property values increased tourism, the attraction and retention of businesses and crime reduction

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and whereas in july 2026 parks and recreation month celebrates

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the power of and highlights where parks and recreations unite people and strengthen communities and advance

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community well-being through connection, play, nature and

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belonging and inclusive public spaces that build resilience and

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foster community pride whereas parks and recreation professionals are vital to thriving communities providing

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and maintaining accessible welcoming and sustainable parks,

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facilities and programs that enrich the quality of life for

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all residents. Therefore be it resolved that the board of county commissioners does hereby

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proclaim july 2026 as parks and recreation month in clay county,

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in doing so we honour the dedicated clay county parks and recreation employees and support staff whose daily efforts to

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maintain and enhance the county's parks and recreation facilities create lasting opportunities for residents and

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visitors to connect, play and build a stronger community.

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duly adopted by the board of county commissioners, this

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14th day of july 2026, do we have a motion?

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all in favour? [applause]

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>> first off I want supporting , without you we wouldn't be able to do what we do for the community.

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to our county manager thank you as well and the support staff we rely on on a day-to-day basis. Most of all I want to thank my

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wonderful staff as to -- introduce each and every one of

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them and let's go from there. First we have erin.

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end. They oversee that complex and do a great job there. We also have lisa and liz who

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are part naturalist and there they had -- stewardship of the

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natural resources of clay county.

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we have miss connor who's our recreation coordinator, oversees all of our programs and thank you for what you do.

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to far left with emily who's new coordinator.

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what she's done is nothing short of fantastic so thank you for what you've done. Also mr. Eric the manager,

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without him, our parks would not try in the way they do today so

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thank you for supporting that. Thank you for your support of

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parks and recreation. This saturday I. Have to do a

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promo, we have nice event that we're doing at 2:00.

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to prevent. Please come out. We also have a tournament at the regional sports complex on

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trails and natural resources. If you have not, check our

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website or social media or facebook or instagram pages.

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thank you. [applause] sheriff's

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office? Then we have mr. Dingle from the

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clerk's office, nothing about there? All right thank you guys for being here.

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moving on to the approval of minutes I'll entertain a motion.

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>> motion to approve the board of county commissioners meeting

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on june 23rd 2026. >> second. >> a motion and a second all those in favour say I I.

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motion passes unanimously. Moving on to our first public

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comment portion of today's meeting, this portion of the agenda is designed to allow citizens an opportunity to bring

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matters to the attention of the board. At this time the board is not going to engage in debate or

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answer questions but you may email and steph will address

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your questions or you may email your district commissioner. Public comment cards are currently located at the back of

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the should be submitted to the clerk to the far left of the dais. Please limit your comments to

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3 minutes. Before addressing the board, please state your name and address. I would like to open the first public comment.

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at today's meeting. We have one card, mr. Joe

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tierney. My apologies if I mispronounced it. >> good evening.

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last thursday, one of our pilots had a hard landing and the plane

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ended up landing upside down. We call 911 and the

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first responders showed up and it was an awesome display of

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coordination. The fire and rescue crew from station 24 did a fantastic job getting the pilot out of the

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aeroplane very quickly and then transported him to the hospital. The clay county sheriffs responded especially deputy

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elias and deputy sterling and they took charge of a bunch of

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pilots standing around watching us out of the way and control this completely. It was awesome.

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even commissioner renninger who I'm not sure how this happened but he reached out to me and let me know that an air ambulance

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was ready to go if needed. It was not needed.

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the network of responders who were available to assist was

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very impressive. From the 911 called until the pilot was on the way to the hospital was probably about

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45 minutes total. It's nice to know we have this kind of coverage here in clay county.

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I just want to thank everybody that was involved.

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thank you. >> thank you, that's great. Any other public comments? Moving on to the agenda to our

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consent agenda items three through nine today, do any

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commissioners, would they like to pull any items?

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hearing none I'll entertain a motion.

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>> moving to approval. >> second in the motion. >> I have a motion of a second for the approval of the consent

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agenda items three through nine. Any further discussion all in

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favour say aye. Any opposed?

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carries unanimously moving on to item number 10, our discussion and updates, the progress report on the abundant transportation

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program and other capital projects by our capital projects

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team. >> good evening.

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update the progress of teammate over the last -- for project

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number 1, the pine tree lane, the county's team continue the

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status meeting, anderson continue to continue the installation of the drainage structure, pipes, subbase, base

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material, curving, sidewalk and medium work along the north side of the project. The project 74% paid out on 106%

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of the time used. Extension of time is anticipated

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due to weather delays as well as conflicts along the adjacent

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properties. For project number 2 from us 17

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to peters creek, the county's team superior continued about monthly status meeting, superior completed the installation

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concrete island for the west to northbound right turn lanes just west of the crossing and continued construction of the

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clay cut-off wall at pond c2 while moving the clay material

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from point site  to two pond sie three as of june 23rd, all work

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within the right of way at us 17 and county road 29 intersection

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has been completed. The signal maintenance of that intersection has been thrown over to the contractor.

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the project is on schedule with 83% paid out and 77% of the time

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used. Project three be through to the roundabout at county road 29 be, achieve substantial completion

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on may 19th with 83% paid out while the project's schedule duration remains in dispute the contract or in the county met on

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june 15th for the final inspection. The project was not accepted due to minor repairs such as placing

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some sidewalk in couple cracks in the sidewalk. For project number 5, the design team completed the pond analysis

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and provided comments back to the saint john management district based on their request for additional information

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related to the permit modification that was submitted. Responses were under review by the district they accept the

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responses and approved the permit, team will update the modification number provided by the district with mitigation

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bank in advance of submitting the permit modification to the army corps. For project six a the first time

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a letter discrepancies found by -- discussed the last update

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being coordinated with the army corps. The team started preparing closeout documentation for this

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project. Once the permit is received, plans will be signed sealed and the package will be delivered to

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the county. Projects three a four and 6b are all complete. In support this work w continues

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to work with project management and inspection services as

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of july 7 the program expanded 161 million and on the county

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website, the bond transportation dashboard will be discontinued or replaced with the static bond transportation historical

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storyboard. That concludes the update for the bond transportation program. Do you have any questions?

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>> any questions for the commissioner? >> I have a question. On page 3, project 3b cracks in

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the sidewalk, is it compact underneath the sidewalk?

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correct could be caused by a loader driving over it or it

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could be just -- f. Wave cracks on brand new sidewalks --

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>> the point of the cracks of the sidewalk, the item before dot, the replacement was required so the subcontractor

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was actually installing the side drives up on the sidewalk, corrects the sidewalk so places the side pair can now have to go

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contract to come back and repair the sidewalk that got damaged. So even though it was looking good before they had to come

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repair the side could still have to fix the sidewalk that got

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damaged. >> thank you. >> the question I have is when would you say is maybe a target

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date for the full completion of the btp project in terms of --

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it's done? >> we talk about the work, I'm

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sure that's what you're interested in. Projects one and two that are still left yet to go, more

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towards this fall if you would kick those will be finished and as those project finish up, the less still pending would be the

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impairments for project five and six a and the last piece is what we call a wrapper per ports. There'll be a wrap up report for

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each one of the projects as an example project for for its complete and it's roughly 600-page report and then as each

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of the reports will be completed those will be overall summary reports for the overall program and those will follow up but we

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have to get to the end of the construction and any pending issues that -- with each one of the individual projects.

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>> is there a warranty on this? >> each project has a two year

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warranty and it's established they fail completion of each one of the individual projects as each one of the projects finish.

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that project's warranty already started. So when the overall program is going to be finished I would say

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the reporting by the hopefully the end of this calendar year,

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>> I have a question. >> yes, ma'am,. >> on project five, based on your update, there are all of

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these -- just to give you approval for the permit can you

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clarify -- ml confused, -- it's my understanding you actually

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have to get permission before you can complete the project but you're giving us a timeline for the end of the year for

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completion. So talk to me about what that looks like. >> for projects five and six a,

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were completing with our portion of the project, these are to the project, the intent we is to have a project design and permit

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and fully prepared for the next push, if you would with richard,

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looking at the future traffic forecast and when those projects would actually need to go into actually construction.

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but the entire project would be designed and shelf ready so

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project five is the eastern extension of the work that is currently going on with the british expansion on 220 as well

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as the intersection and I guess if you would as county continues

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to grow west, that's where the work is going and looking at the

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additional mile to actually, which would be the next section. But you'll have basically a shovel ready project.

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and then six a, which is this section of county road 315 that

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connects with us 17 and also connects with cathedral parkway which now gives you a cross county connection from 17 and

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all the way up. That would be the next section which would be permitted, designed for four-lane with new

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roundabout at 315, 315 be with storm sewers, storm management

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system, storm water ponds and sidewalks, back lanes and so on and again it would be a shelf ready project.

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>> so I guess the point of clarity, was there is scope

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change on these two? Because I can't imagine we're talking about these two projects that were never slated to

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actually have construction be part of the project?

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>> during the program, backing up all the way to five plus

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years ago when -- had said the roads were looking to perform

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work on, as the work -- as each one of the roadways were

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envisioned on what type of work we could do with the money, that

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was both concerned with the ponds as well as ten other

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different funding sources. It was developed through the program on how much of each one of the roads would actually be

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designed and constructed and what extent some operational

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approved, like you've seen on county road 2009 or the actual

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development of a road to support the existing and future traffic.

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that was all in conjunction with the designers the engineer's

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input from the county engineer on which project and how to

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develop each one of the projects based on a concept or an idea, we want to make improvements to these roads.

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>> so when you present this -- once this is presented

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completed, it will be once the designer complete, not necessarily constructions. >> yes.

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>> that's clear, thank you. >> follow up question with a 315 project six a, this might be more of a question.

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we talked a lot about how dot prefers projects that are

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obviously roads because the roadway touches 17, does it put us in the mix? Does it help?

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>> it does. It's one of the criteria to be on the top, be considered in a todo list, it does touch -- for

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a few years when I first started we had a road on their, interior

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road going to be a very important connector between

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county road 216 and sandridge dot -- they finally said --

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that's yours. So when we mark it and present to a team, that well you see 218, we do have about a mile and

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a half of extensional that's shovel ready get ready to go to

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work as part of the btp design portion. We always say 2301. We're not going to build the 301

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unless you have us 301 under, it does get a lot of consideration.

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220 will go from the back under presentation as it goes to two

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county road -- the connection is complete. We want to see connectivity for their funds to be spent on a

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regional basis, not a micro local basis.

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>> I think I have a follow up. Was your answer to my question

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concerning skill a yes or no? [laughing]

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when these plans were conceived, projects five and six a, were

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originally construction projects or was there a change in scope

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let us know -- >> the scope was put together,

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again character with intent to do work, being designed,

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purchasing a property right away to make the road expansion

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operational improvement was necessary but the intent was to look at each one of those roads and identified what really needs

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to be done and from there start developing the plans.

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>> okay. >> any other questions on btp?

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going to transition to capital projects, the other half.

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>> see what happens when we go quick through the agenda, we get to ask a lot of questions. >> on the transportation side,

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the report from six directors, justin pierce, parks and

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recreation director, public works director jane price, facility operations and maintenance division director

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and sitting to my right, capital projects director.

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project to report was compiled by veronica our capital projects

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cost control specialist. General terms of all the county capital projects was consistent 262 projects the total budget

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portfolio and workday is valued at $216,460,490 with a spin rate

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of $158,413,529, split across 25 different departments. To date, the fiscal year total budget capital projects

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department managing 86 of those 157 projects across 13 different

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departments or roughly $102,151,487 in the operational

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department. Of that 15 of those projects are completed this fiscal year. For the overall status of the

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public safety bond, so far to date the county spent

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24.1 million of the 65 million in bond. For a quick rundown running down in numerical order, highlights

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some of the public safety projects or fire station if you would fire station number 1 construction 66% complete, 39%

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paid out, forecast completion is all this year.

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fire stations 13, 15, 16 and 21 are all at 90% design complete,

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specifically for fire station 15, developers started clearing

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and grubbing the site in preparation for construction.

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forecast completion for the station 15 is summer 27.

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once the fire station 20 is operational complete.

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second fire station 80% complete and 57% paid out with forecast completion later this summer. Fire station 24, construction is

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well underway with 27% complete, 11% paid out with forecast

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completion spring 27. The contractor completed the

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installation of. >> interpreter:, security fencing and field office construction drilling.

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the old bay was demolished and building foundation were placed

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along with the utilities and preparation for repla

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replacement s. -- 90% completed in 17% forecast for completion

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summer 27 well sleep radio antenna construction is 95% complete and the demolition of the old tower was completed at

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70%, then spread out with forecast completion later this year in the fall. Next up, protocol project is

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economic development building. The project include designing

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permitting building of the new two story 34000 square foot

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building next door building is now finished, staffed and fully

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operational. Ribbon cutting ceremony planned for july 28th. The project was completed about

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two months late -- later than planned but finished by $400,000

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under budget. A note of excellence for the team last month kick this project was selected by a a bc

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for association, those with contractors award in excellence construction for both the general and the speciality

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contractors picked this award celebration is a collaboration in term for the entire project team, recognising the sending

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contribution to both the contractor, the county, architect and the engineer. The award will be conferred at

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the celebration on august seventh. Next up, omega park, project -- this project will change the

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parks utility services from the existing failing on site septic

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tanks to using clay county utility authority services for water and sewer utilities provided along county road 218.

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the sewer portion of the project was completed in june. Decommissioned and the old septic tank system underway as

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well as installing water lines and preparing to transition to

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water connections. Last note on the library, the

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third public hearing -- public meeting for the library

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scheduled for this thursday july 16th from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m.

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at the centre located at 835 plantation parkway pick

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alternative to our county engineer for roadway project

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updates. >> thank you. Will start with county road 220, which the intersection 220

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henley is 90% complete, getting a lot of punch list item from

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the residents, disturbing request and signage alterations that we're looking into and it works very well very efficient

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intersection now. The four laning of the road back towards the bridge approach is completed to joe jones and that

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should be open -- joe jones has been reopened and traffic is

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underway there. The bridge is still on schedule for an october, mid-october opening.

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it's 90 plus percent complete with dot punch list items

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remaining -- they're very minor characters one crack that you

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just have to repair as part of building the concrete pier we're

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going to be one thing -- traffic shift real soon the next couple

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of weeks. The roundabout that is there will not be a true road where you can go around it for about

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two to three weeks it's going to be single lane traffic as they complete the tie end. That should be -- shouldn't take

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very long, should be done probably by middle of august, maybe three to four week project but there will be restrictions,

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in other words you can't make a u-turn, a full 360, it will only

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be through traffic. The road -- operating on

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thursday morning at 10:00 k. Last week and is working well.

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hopefully the traffic out there we'll see a bit more efficiency

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in folks. Also sent a picture like you saw the boardwalk that had to be constructed to preserve somewhat

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lens as they had a requirement of the saint johns river water

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main district permit. We have been busy, it's been three weeks since I've been here and in that time we resurfaced

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complete doctors like draft ... Portion of doctor ulrich -- the

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plastic striping will be put on there in the next few weeks. They moved over to the bay area, there's this neighbourhood in

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there they're working on and then as we come to look ahead,

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remobilizing and get to the early to mid august time frame.

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in the same time. , we're going to move around a

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little bit. Or asphalt paving system, overall paving system, this isn't paving roads that look

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like the interstate, it's a rural road where you expect low

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traffic volumes, low traffic -- they were able to complete since the last three weeks, black creek drop, becky street,

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waterway, a portion of shed road, round road, holly hill

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road, opie road and grove road. Less three roads never heard of

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to go to drive through three counties to get to empiric there

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down county roads saint road 21, almost county line there was a

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big lift for the public works -- crews to get out there 17 times

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a year. Thereof the list now. They are fantastic. They turned out very well.

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will have a project in downtown keystone, near the high school,

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that's underway, lot of dot or a lot of utilities in that area

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that we're having to deal with. Flipping over the fdot to us 17,

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board of d.o.t. Roads, black creek to oak street cog verbatim what is going on from the dot upgrade, contract to work on the

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removal of the old pedestrian poles.

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those were there the 209 intersection. Didn't say the rest of the story.

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dtp finished at 209 and 17, the construction is not finished.

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you have about another six months of that and as you can

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tell, it's coming together, we warned you there was a very

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different configuration there. You're starting to see the

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makings of the island that will prevent traffic separation,

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making a safer north and south turn of 209.

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you won't be able to cross over, taking one more conflict out of

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the way. Country works resume intersection of russell road 17 this week, this was now and once

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completd they'll move back from there. If you've been in downtown, they're not finished with the

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medium work they're. The crew will complete at 17 and

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209 and then shift downtown and complete what's going on around

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-- I. Guess it would be center and walnut street.

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so the intersection is 60% complete. They did get a time extension, they got some rain, their

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completion date is november 16. So that's -- they did have days

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added for weather for exchange road 16, that's going well, they

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continue to work on it I noticed they did finish -- don't know if it will meet the county attorney's d.o.t. Specifications

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but they did improve the return from 2009, to state road 16 w

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west. 218 at 16, they did shift the

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intersection slightly to allow for trailer and larger trailers and larger vehicles to get through there without running

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off the pavement. It's an improvement, may not be

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a solution but it is an improvement. The work is scheduled to be complete in the coming up by the

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end of the year late december. They're working in green code,

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they resurface one lane from the railroad tracks to 16, 217 this

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week. I think that covers it, looking ahead, work will begin in the next two weeks and we've got

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some pretty efficient work going on with that group and I think we have a couple of proposals to finish out this year and maybe

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get a couple more streets and then we had for next year.

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>> ryder road, only going right now from 17 and eventually --

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once they move construction towards the church more got.

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[indistinct] >> right now there's a lot of underground work, underground work and storm drain going on in

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the road, doesn't even look like a road down there now. I showed you a picture of how the folks that are using the

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impact have to travel from the library over. So it's a bit of a demolition course there.

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the work on the roundabout is the first step in that that actually completed in august. My best guess would be by fall,

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october pick once they get an underground in place, going to want to get that paved stabilised and close off at the

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west end of the athletic field, east end of the church parking lot and have the apartment and church enter, will

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have to make sure there's access to the apartments as well. Those will be from town center boulevard, I'll get a real date

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on that. >> many compliments to

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complaints one was equipment, I think it was the first day

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equipment parking resolved, the other complaint is why we do it when csx was doing their work on the rail lines.

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>> the best I can tell you is csx doesn't really share a lot of information on where they're going next.

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that seems a simple operation flagging railroad crew cut

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24 million people consist of them can flag, so that's the

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entire state. City are out there, we offered

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to postpone doctors resurfacing and that it was like look like

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we'll get out there in two weeks and we won't be back there for

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25 years. There was no scheduling

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whatsoever. >> to take away a lot of compliments, there's one lane traffic for quite a while on the

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drive while they pave, but I think the residents, weather

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that fairly well and were very appreciative. >> I went through it a couple times, it was definitely alarmed

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and we got very few calls back we got a lot more calls where

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the railroad tracks were. There were a few people that were worried but I was surprised that they did do --

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>> pleasantly surprised. >> there was a couple times where it was paved they don't do it that way now they paved an

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own operation so they had a failure that that even added to

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some of the one lane. >> just as a conversation I had

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with roller operators, very pleasant people to work with so

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my compliments. >> richard, I got a text before

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we were walking into the meeting that someone from fox talked to

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someone in your office and they were telling them that phase two

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of the resurfacing had been cut for budget reasons but that was

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news to me. Do you know anything about that?

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>> if you didn't cut it or I should say this, it is scheduled

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-- actually scheduled as our first purchase order because we don't want to stop can I go through paperwork and restore it

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pursuant to basically as soon as the budget is -- we will issue

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those streets and we won't stop. >> okay, that's what I thought

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too. >> you would have had to told us to do that. That part of the budget is --

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>> what you said about mobilisation made a lot of sense. It makes a lot more sense to

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make our dollars stretch. >> so far they're doing very

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well this year. We had about four or $500,000

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under one of them that we had been able to hopefully get

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moving and finish this year. Fox meadow, the idea that it would be the last project in 2025-26 and the first project of

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2027-28 and no delay. >> thank you I appreciate it.

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>> I have some comments, I guess a couple questions.

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so first, the 220 bridge, I will say from the community, we hear you loud and clear, we want that roadway open just as bad as you

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do pierre can you talk about just for backstory for the public on what happened with the drainage and why it's kind of

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like where we're at where we're at.

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>> first it's unscheduled. They have until december to get it done. So it's on schedule here could

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we have something in florida that I'm not used to and it's a

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state issue. We have liquidated amateur spec

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however you have to have the opposite, finish early, you

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rewards, we don't allow that here. So if you get someone that does expenditure industrial and

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industrial drive and finishes 90 days early like they did they're, they can go do something else because it's not

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clay county d.o.t. Said you get a thousand dollars a day for finishing early. So we tried, we pushed every

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button we can calculate just don't have a chequebook to write to him and say okay get $10,000 a day or whatever, finishing

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late, but you don't get 10,000 for finishing early. So there's no incentive unless there's contractors with work

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backed up. >> that's what I was getting at, the drainage. >> on the drainage part, the

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drainage part is not adding to the schedule whatsoever,

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drainage part is we discovered during the project, again it's

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-- keep in mind, this bridge which restricted in 1991, so

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we've been driving on it restricted infrastructure for 33

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years 34 years. Underneath that with types, that

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was just as old or older and were actually able to do it

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through million bucks and over them to pay for the repairs. Those are part of the project -- not part of the project but the

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project area that we're facing while it's closed didn't add any

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days whatsoever. >> other than that the area from

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night box to the bridge could be a completely new road and that's

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where we're at now. Going to be cut a couple of weeks of it, there's one renter, one resident that lives back

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there, we are working with him to give him maybe a week of

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unpaid access where he's -- we can do that that will speed up

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the resurfacing of that part of the road. >> and then the second thing, the radar road roundabout in may

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-- ma hearing you correctly in terms of, you'll be able to go through the roundabout, just not around it?

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>> correct. If you forget something at home depot, you'll have to go down. >> so you don't foresee --

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obviously we're getting close to school starting so that's a very high traffic area high school right there.

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so it's going to be operational, it's just you can't really use

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it. >> we would want that to probably -- since you brought that up, that will -- we will

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get gear for that to be finished by august 11th.

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that would be business. The roundabout will become a real roundabout, not a decoration.

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>> commissioner renninger. >> back to 23, you're

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questioning -- the permitting issue change on the 220 bridge

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from water management district to army corps of engineers.

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in fact posing a bit of a problem.

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>> the other thing is keep in mind, that draws we were doing,

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building from 2018 and the other thing you have to always consider and this is why even though we praised the project is

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done or the design plans are there, is the right of way

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acquisition. Took us over a year, two years

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to get 151 square feet from dollar general and that was just

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a temporary easement so they could harmonise their driveway

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and $547,000 later with literally took that long and every other parcel was settled. So that's -- with project coming

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up the central that is going in from lava plain to landing

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boulevard we're not allowed to bid that until -- certified that

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the right of way is in hand, utilities are relocated, plants

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are relocated. The environmental permits are in place under railroad -- we couldn't even bid it until a

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dollar general finally got satisfied. Doing all that they forgot the sidewalk -- now they don't have

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pedestrian access to the brand new was the --

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definitely a 24-30 month delay there. Dot hasn't forgotten. They have a few dollar generals

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to deal with the future. We don't forget about others.

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the right of way is a big deal commissioner. The permitting could the middle of that was an injunction that

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did hurt us to. >> as a comment to give you an

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idea, starting out with the program, we're talking with odot

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and we had 242 properties where we're going to touch on after

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acquiring everything, they left and said you're never getting

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any physical work done in the five years it takes us that time just to get the right of way squared away.

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so I took that as a challenge. >> I provided about eight photos

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for eldridge I don't know whether.

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so reached out to superior under cleaning up and when did they say, it was like the first week of august?

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>> that's what they're telling us. >> did they tell us what air? >> no.

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we have all the pictures and got that.

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>> anything else? Thank you.

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>> item number 11 is active and upcoming formal solicitations.

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>> good evening, purchasing manager. Briefing the active and upcoming formal solicitations.

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for item solicitations we have out, we have rfp number 2526-85.

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that's the public private partnership to design build and finance public safety complex, that is currently under

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evaluation, evaluation committee reviewing the proposals and it's scheduled to go to the august 25th board meeting.

425
00:48:15,092 --> 00:48:15,092
we have bid number 25-26, 95, clay county fairgrounds

426
00:48:19,964 --> 00:48:19,964
hurricane group repairs this will be for the arena.

427
00:48:25,236 --> 00:48:25,236
five bids were received and scheduled for the july 28th

428
00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:29,473
board meeting. Bit number 25-26-89 nice marina

429
00:48:34,512 --> 00:48:37,815
lake shore boat ramp repair redevelopment and improvements, three bids were received and that will come to the 20th board

430
00:48:41,819 --> 00:48:41,819
meeting as well peaked at number and new public works

431
00:48:49,026 --> 00:48:51,329
construction seven bids were received and that is scheduled for the july 28 board meeting. Bid number 25-26-97 is the eoc

432
00:48:58,469 --> 00:48:58,469
hvac demolition and replacement. Bids will open on july 28th and

433
00:49:04,842 --> 00:49:04,842
then -- order due july 28th, and this is scheduled for the august

434
00:49:10,481 --> 00:49:10,481
25th board meeting. At the upcoming bids for july

435
00:49:15,019 --> 00:49:18,623
and august, and this is in no certain order, we have the fairgrounds water improvements. Fire station 17 shower addition

436
00:49:23,427 --> 00:49:27,164
calculate county wide sidewalk and concrete repairs. The jail recreation yard waterproofing roof repairs, the

437
00:49:34,038 --> 00:49:34,038
unclaimed disposition services. The impact study,

438
00:49:40,211 --> 00:49:40,211
washington avenue repair, that's a theme project.

439
00:49:45,249 --> 00:49:45,249
annual roadway pavement marking services and the pavement

440
00:49:49,887 --> 00:49:49,887
assessment. Any questions?

441
00:49:54,525 --> 00:49:57,494
>> jessica, you may have said it but I didn't hear you. How many bids did we get -- our proposal did we get on the

442
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:05,736
patron? >> we received three or four. I can go back and look. >> it's four.

443
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:12,710
>> as a background question, how does the public, what system do

444
00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:22,487
we use. >> we use the open group system. It's free to the public on our purchasing website and any of

445
00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:30,261
the suppliers have issues can we contact them directly and we walk them through how to register.

446
00:50:33,731 --> 00:50:34,999
>> I get that question frequently. How do I bid on a contract? Opengov?

447
00:50:42,473 --> 00:50:42,473
yes, sir,. >> any other questions?

448
00:50:47,578 --> 00:50:50,447
>> thank you. >> thank you jessica. >> going to move down one more block here, item 17 direction

449
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,523
discussion of appointments to the clay county housing finance authority. Applications were received from

450
00:51:00,791 --> 00:51:04,262
the following individuals seeking the reappointment. Roger repstruction and james ryan representing

451
00:51:10,043 --> 00:51:10,043
finance. >> did we reappoint?

452
00:51:17,117 --> 00:51:17,117
>> I have a motion and a second all in favour say aye.

453
00:51:22,022 --> 00:51:25,926
any opposed? Item 18 calculators for documentation was our bid opening tabulations and you can

454
00:51:29,296 --> 00:51:29,296
find that in your backup and I will go down to our last public

455
00:51:47,581 --> 00:51:51,385
comment section of the meeting, members of the public want to address the commission? There are scars located in the

456
00:51:54,621 --> 00:51:54,621
back if you would like to address the commission.

457
00:52:01,762 --> 00:52:01,762
or right, hearing none we will move on from that.

458
00:52:07,901 --> 00:52:11,138
county attorney. >> nothing in particular, our office is still working on some projects, many of you including

459
00:52:16,043 --> 00:52:18,044
commissioner condon. So if there's anything in particular you're looking for, I know commission -- talked about

460
00:52:27,954 --> 00:52:31,758
e-bikes. >> we'll talk about that later. >> county manager. >> chair and commissioners, two

461
00:52:33,827 --> 00:52:33,827
items for you. In the back in our media room

462
00:52:38,832 --> 00:52:38,832
back there, this is her last day here she worked for the county

463
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:46,840
since 2005 for the past 20 years she started out as an it

464
00:52:51,078 --> 00:52:53,781
technician and mis. She most recently finished up as a communications coordinator that is here.

465
00:52:56,950 --> 00:53:00,353
she's absolutely dedicated to her job, just a phenomenal team member. She's moving out to us to move

466
00:53:02,355 --> 00:53:05,125
closer to family. So you cannot blame her for that. I just want to tell her in the

467
00:53:07,194 --> 00:53:07,194
next chapter of her career, we exextend sincere appreciation ..

468
00:53:15,702 --> 00:53:15,702
I can see her blush already. [applause]

469
00:53:22,442 --> 00:53:26,246
>> last but not least, budget workshop. Thursday july 23rd from 9:00 a.m. To 1300 here in the

470
00:53:31,451 --> 00:53:31,451
bcc boardroom, we extended it there, a different approach this

471
00:53:37,157 --> 00:53:38,292
year. Each department that will be coming up to breathe their budgets along the lines of a

472
00:53:41,562 --> 00:53:45,398
port coquitlam on on thursday morning each one of you will receive the slides for tomorrow morning we're going to go over

473
00:53:48,869 --> 00:53:51,605
the -- been going over the slides and tomorrow is our last review of those in the department level and we'll send

474
00:53:54,908 --> 00:53:57,711
them to you all. Then we have individual meetings scheduled if you want to go over those slides.

475
00:54:01,082 --> 00:54:01,082
>> I'll be bringing the snacks. >> we will have a slight break

476
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:10,290
there for -- >> there may be some snacks.

477
00:54:15,796 --> 00:54:15,796
>> food makes people happy. >> we know that.

478
00:54:20,267 --> 00:54:20,267
[laughing] any questions?

479
00:54:24,405 --> 00:54:27,274
>> thank you, sir,, that brings us to the 5:00 time certain. Item number 12 on the agenda. First public hearing on

480
00:54:32,045 --> 00:54:34,614
ordinance and resolution to amend the capital improvement plan and resolution for other budget adjustments in jarud.

481
00:54:43,523 --> 00:54:43,523
>> good evening, in jarud, before you is an amendment to

482
00:54:49,363 --> 00:54:52,833
our budget, this is an amendment that is as brief. We're recognising revenue into several funds across our budget

483
00:54:58,838 --> 00:54:58,838
and namely for our general fund, we are increasing our reserves

484
00:55:04,044 --> 00:55:07,247
underlying. So pending any questions, that's our budget brief. >> this is a public hearing so

485
00:55:10,517 --> 00:55:13,520
I'm going to open the public hearing anybody would like to speak on item number 12 budget amendment, you can come to the

486
00:55:18,292 --> 00:55:20,027
podium piercing numbe I'm going to close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission. Are you going to talk about two

487
00:55:24,498 --> 00:55:28,168
and three as well? A nice separate items for you? Okay, so we're just voting on these three separately.

488
00:55:32,773 --> 00:55:32,773
>> need to vote on all separate. >> so addressing item number 1,

489
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:39,079
which is the cip approval of the amendment.

490
00:55:44,017 --> 00:55:44,017
>> I mean to approve item numbe. >> I second the motion.

491
00:55:49,056 --> 00:55:49,056
>> I have a motion and a second all those in favour say aye.

492
00:55:54,461 --> 00:55:54,461
opposed carries unanimously. Item number 2 is also part of

493
00:56:00,634 --> 00:56:03,103
the resolution. >> move to approve. >> I have a motion in the second all in favour say aye.

494
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:11,712
any opposed? Item number 3 is the operating adjustments. I'll entertain a motion.

495
00:56:15,316 --> 00:56:16,750
>> move. >> second. >> all in favour say aye. None opposed thank you very m

496
00:56:25,792 --> 00:56:28,695
much. Item number 13 is a modification to developer agreement between clay county and the crossings of

497
00:56:31,832 --> 00:56:31,832
island community development district regarding 1845 town

498
00:56:36,503 --> 00:56:36,503
center boulevard for the clay county sheriff's office county

499
00:56:41,942 --> 00:56:45,779
attorney. >> s, this item was included at this place under the time certain for the budget amendment because it was contingent of approval on the budget but it's

500
00:56:50,817 --> 00:56:50,817
simply a modification to an original agreement for utility

501
00:56:56,289 --> 00:56:56,289
services. Require additional services

502
00:57:00,894 --> 00:57:04,564
that. [indistinct] >> delete or not have to vote on this c- >> we can vote but no public hearing.

503
00:57:07,534 --> 00:57:11,071
>> alternate motion. >> move to approve. >> second. >> motion for approval and a

504
00:57:13,306 --> 00:57:16,043
second. >> all those in favour say aye. Any opposed? Item 13 carries unanimously item

505
00:57:21,281 --> 00:57:21,281
number 14 is a public hearing regarding annual rate resolution

506
00:57:25,619 --> 00:57:25,619
for solid waste disposal assessment for 26 and 27.

507
00:57:32,192 --> 00:57:32,192
>> this is the annual assessment brought before you for disposal

508
00:57:37,197 --> 00:57:37,197
services. It is to remain the same at $96

509
00:57:41,735 --> 00:57:41,735
for this upcoming annual year and if you have any questions,

510
00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:46,506
we do need a public hearing for. >> opening the public hearing.

511
00:57:51,678 --> 00:57:51,678
if you'd like to speak on item number 14.

512
00:57:58,284 --> 00:58:00,988
seeing none I will close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission. >> I move to approve that we

513
00:58:05,025 --> 00:58:05,025
leave the solid waste disposal assessment the same.

514
00:58:09,429 --> 00:58:12,666
>> checking the motion. >> motion and a second, all those in favour say aye. Any opposed carries unanimously.

515
00:58:17,271 --> 00:58:17,271
just for the public, that's a standard operating procedure

516
00:58:22,009 --> 00:58:25,245
there's no increase, it's just to formal approval to put it on the trim notice that's why we have to do that here moving on

517
00:58:28,615 --> 00:58:31,551
to item number 15, the public hearing regarding the annual rate resolution for solid waste and recovered materials

518
00:58:35,322 --> 00:58:35,322
collection services, 26-27. >> likewise this is for the

519
00:58:41,361 --> 00:58:41,361
annual assessment, this is for collection and likewise is to

520
00:58:45,632 --> 00:58:45,632
remain the same at $260 -- $262 as the annual assessment.

521
00:58:54,441 --> 00:58:58,245
>> okay, I would like to open the public hearing for item number 15 pick anybody wishes to address the commission?

522
00:59:01,548 --> 00:59:03,717
seeing none I'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission. >> , the contract we have with

523
00:59:11,291 --> 00:59:11,291
fcc allows for a change if the conditions are present for

524
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:23,070
recycled materials, I hope we have the option to change a

525
00:59:27,941 --> 00:59:27,941
contract any recycling would be in our best -- better advantage

526
00:59:33,346 --> 00:59:33,346
for -- I think mr. Talents researched that and have some

527
00:59:40,086 --> 00:59:40,086
comments. >> for mr. Chair, director of

528
00:59:44,758 --> 00:59:44,758
environmental services, as you know the decision was made

529
00:59:49,063 --> 00:59:52,967
through our bid process at the beginning of our current collection program and with the contract for fcc to forgo

530
00:59:59,106 --> 00:59:59,106
kerbside recycling services due to cost.

531
01:00:03,343 --> 01:00:03,343
so at that time, cost to process was about three times as much as

532
01:00:09,883 --> 01:00:09,883
the cost to dispose for that material and there was no

533
01:00:14,388 --> 01:00:14,388
guarantee that that rate would stay the same.

534
01:00:19,426 --> 01:00:21,728
that metric is still much the same. The numbers have changed a bit but it's still the same.

535
01:00:30,337 --> 01:00:30,337
the difference -- the processing cost difference per ton between

536
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:36,309
what we pay to dispose of a ton of household trash versus what

537
01:00:41,181 --> 01:00:41,181
we would pay to process a ton of household recycles, the

538
01:00:47,287 --> 01:00:47,287
difference in cost, it would cost $145 more per ton to

539
01:00:54,094 --> 01:00:57,397
processing than it does to dispose. That alone equates to over $530,000 a year estimated, and

540
01:01:03,604 --> 01:01:03,604
that is not all of the cost involved in recycling, that's

541
01:01:07,608 --> 01:01:07,608
just a comparison between processing and disposal.

542
01:01:14,081 --> 01:01:14,081
>> in order to keep fees the same as previous years, we can't

543
01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:19,653
go down our road recycle, we have to change it to collection

544
01:01:25,959 --> 01:01:29,563
fees for everyone. So it's still, the decision we made two or three years ago is still a valid decision that's

545
01:01:32,766 --> 01:01:35,269
the only point I want to bring up here. >> your recommendation is we continue kerbside pickup as we

546
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:40,540
have in the past. >> yes. , I don't recommend we change the.

547
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:45,012
>> thank you. That's all I have. >> commissioner I appreciate you going down that road, that's

548
01:01:47,847 --> 01:01:50,316
doing your due diligence which is really good. I think the number remember was like $90, you were saying now

549
01:01:54,721 --> 01:01:54,721
it's up to 140. >> comparing those two directly,

550
01:02:02,028 --> 01:02:02,028
yes, it only grows because that's processing versus

551
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:09,002
disposal. In that car could also cost us more to transport recyclables as to transport garbage and it cost

552
01:02:17,011 --> 01:02:17,011
-- the collection cost, which aren't part of --

553
01:02:21,715 --> 01:02:21,715
>> correct me if I'm wrong but historically, the county used to

554
01:02:26,954 --> 01:02:26,954
get profit from recycling, it wasn't.

555
01:02:31,491 --> 01:02:34,828
>> we did get some. >> correct. >> never recovered cost but it didn't cost us -- it was more --

556
01:02:39,466 --> 01:02:39,466
it covered the processing cost until about six months before

557
01:02:47,241 --> 01:02:47,241
prior -- six months or a year prior to us, making the dec

558
01:02:57,284 --> 01:02:59,619
decision. >> go ahead. >> motion to approve the collection cost for fees

559
01:03:03,490 --> 01:03:03,490
remaining the same. >> item number

560
01:03:08,829 --> 01:03:12,366
fifteenmac I. Have a motion and a second to approve. All in favour. Any opposed motion carries

561
01:03:16,070 --> 01:03:18,539
unanimously. Thank you. Moving on to item number 16, this is our first public hearing

562
01:03:22,075 --> 01:03:22,075
for consideration of the draft community development block

563
01:03:26,914 --> 01:03:26,914
grant cdbg consolidated plan for 2026-2030 and for the draft

564
01:03:32,419 --> 01:03:32,419
annual action plan of 2026. >> jodi, clark county grants

565
01:03:40,227 --> 01:03:42,696
compliance manager. So this is the first public hearing for consideration for the community block grant.

566
01:03:47,734 --> 01:03:51,605
we looked at two different parts of the plant versus consolidated plan they are high level. The second would be the annual

567
01:03:55,175 --> 01:03:55,175
action plan which would be the first year of that five-year

568
01:04:01,181 --> 01:04:01,181
plan. This is a community block grant

569
01:04:05,652 --> 01:04:05,652
sponsored by hud and the overview -- this will be our

570
01:04:10,023 --> 01:04:10,023
second consolidated plan or in the fifth year of the first

571
01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:14,328
plan, and the purpose of the consolidated plan is to

572
01:04:18,933 --> 01:04:18,933
establish a broad high level national objective that create

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01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:23,270
the framework that the whole five-year plan will be based on.

574
01:04:30,310 --> 01:04:30,310
the consolidated plan doesn't speak to specifics, but rather

575
01:04:35,482 --> 01:04:39,153
at a high level. The annual action plan, it has two fold purpose, one is to establish the actual funding

576
01:04:43,790 --> 01:04:47,261
allocation for those national objectives that have been determined and established in the consolidated plan and also

577
01:04:51,899 --> 01:04:51,899
to establish specific projects. Let's first look at the

578
01:04:58,272 --> 01:05:01,842
consolidated plan. This year when we looked at this five-year plan, we took an approach that was a little

579
01:05:04,845 --> 01:05:07,681
different than the first time. We had five years under our belts, we were able to look at lessons learned and the

580
01:05:13,620 --> 01:05:16,690
engagement of the community over the last five years. So what we did was wanting to consider first of all the county

581
01:05:21,228 --> 01:05:24,164
strategic priorities which have been outlined in the county strategic plan. We also wanted to look at

582
01:05:29,103 --> 01:05:32,406
maximum flexibility and those national objectives so that as the county grows over the course of the next five years, the plan

583
01:05:35,776 --> 01:05:35,776
can grow along with it. We got a lot of feedback in the

584
01:05:40,847 --> 01:05:40,847
last five years around the idea of more county wide impact and

585
01:05:46,019 --> 01:05:46,019
county wide focus for the funding -- for this project.

586
01:05:50,957 --> 01:05:50,957
so what you will see is projects that do have less individual

587
01:05:57,498 --> 01:06:00,834
focus and more of a community county wide focus. And also again, to align with the county strategic plan, a lot

588
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,776
of those projects have been approved and are essentially shovel ready from the perspective of the board

589
01:06:13,347 --> 01:06:16,483
approval. So we wanted to do that pick one all of those things were considered, the proposed project

590
01:06:22,122 --> 01:06:22,122
categories which are national objectives and the allocation

591
01:06:26,627 --> 01:06:29,330
percentages that we are proposing over the course of the five years are outlined on the slide which would be

592
01:06:34,067 --> 01:06:34,067
infrastructure at 60%, parks and public facilities at 25%

593
01:06:40,174 --> 01:06:40,174
community partnerships and non-profit expansion at 10% and

594
01:06:45,879 --> 01:06:45,879
administration at 5% so that in a nutshell is the consolidated

595
01:06:52,486 --> 01:06:52,486
plan, you have a draft of the actual plan available, so if you

596
01:06:58,525 --> 01:07:02,296
have any questions on the consolidated plan I can take those before we move into the annual action plan.

597
01:07:11,605 --> 01:07:15,442
>> are don't have questions, just have some comments. So five years ago, we were awarded the cdbg grant, county

598
01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:23,884
had never been awarded one before. If it weren't primarily for my district clay county wouldn't be

599
01:07:28,722 --> 01:07:28,722
awarded. So I have a bit of an issue with

600
01:07:34,094 --> 01:07:37,331
the approach of putting the majority of the cdbg money towards sidewalks when most of my district doesn't have

601
01:07:42,836 --> 01:07:42,836
sidewalks. So I am not sure, other than

602
01:07:48,175 --> 01:07:50,510
that however really feel about the action plan. I don't love it, but of the first public hearing, so we will

603
01:07:54,948 --> 01:07:54,948
see what kind of feedback we get and when we vote, maybe we can

604
01:08:02,322 --> 01:08:02,322
see what we can tweak. But I understand the county

605
01:08:09,062 --> 01:08:12,599
strategic plan, and I understand that there's four commission districts. We have done work in all of

606
01:08:16,103 --> 01:08:18,839
those districts with cdbg over the past five years so that's not the situation at all, but if it weren't for the lower income

607
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:25,679
areas of my district we wouldn't qualify anyway, so I'm not sure

608
01:08:32,352 --> 01:08:36,056
that's really appropriate to make it do more sidewalks and more of the already developed areas of the county.

609
01:08:40,026 --> 01:08:40,026
but anyway, I am not prepared tonight to suggest changes

610
01:08:47,434 --> 01:08:50,271
because I respect the public hearings that have happened so far, the public meetings, I want to let the process play out.

611
01:08:57,044 --> 01:08:57,044
then I also heard some rumblings that there was some interest

612
01:09:05,352 --> 01:09:05,352
from outside organisations to try to use cdbg money towards

613
01:09:10,023 --> 01:09:13,494
affordable housing and while I commend that I think that if we're going to visit that, that scope needs to be very narrowed,

614
01:09:20,701 --> 01:09:24,004
because commissioner, you reminded us on a number of occasions that affordable -- affordable is to us is not

615
01:09:28,208 --> 01:09:28,208
affordable to the next person necessarily, so there are some

616
01:09:33,714 --> 01:09:36,950
affordable projects -- housing projects that have been funded under our housing and finance that I don't think are

617
01:09:43,857 --> 01:09:47,160
affordable at all. I think that those projects, it's because of the percentage difference.

618
01:09:49,763 --> 01:09:52,533
so if you're selling these homes at half a million dollars and these homes at 350,000, they mean the percentages to qualify

619
01:09:58,105 --> 01:10:01,341
for these affordable housing grants but that's not affordable and that's not what cdbg is intended for so those are just

620
01:10:06,146 --> 01:10:10,083
my comments about some rumblings that I heard, but again it's the first public hearing. >> through the chair if I may.

621
01:10:15,356 --> 01:10:15,356
I'll let jody talk a bit more since she brought forward the

622
01:10:19,626 --> 01:10:23,330
housing. If I didn't mention the doctor did reach out, I know she couldn't be here today but she did ask about that she reached out by a couple of community

623
01:10:29,036 --> 01:10:32,306
members about could this be used for affordable housing and specifically could this be used for tiny house and affordable

624
01:10:38,078 --> 01:10:39,747
housing? Based on that I did ask jody to do a bit of research, she can explain to you what's allowed or

625
01:10:43,016 --> 01:10:46,620
not allowed in which category that would fall under because if that's a desire from the board to go, it would be -- if you can

626
01:10:52,826 --> 01:10:52,826
speak to that and then longer term, at that time probably need

627
01:10:58,899 --> 01:11:01,502
to be addressed but I just wanted to throw that out to get some constituents did reach out to doctor burke and she did

628
01:11:03,904 --> 01:11:03,904
reach out to me and asked the questions.

629
01:11:08,209 --> 01:11:10,511
>> tiny homes and tiny home communities are unallowable expense under the cdbg plan, it covers everything from site

630
01:11:17,685 --> 01:11:17,685
prep, infrastructure that would be required to accept a, sewer,

631
01:11:22,389 --> 01:11:22,389
all of that, those types of things, to design to

632
01:11:27,260 --> 01:11:27,260
construction. So it does, it will cover that

633
01:11:31,665 --> 01:11:31,665
under this current, the way this current consolidated plan is

634
01:11:37,070 --> 01:11:40,074
structured, the infrastructure part of that would be what would be covered here. If that would be the direction

635
01:11:44,578 --> 01:11:44,578
of the commissioners to do something like that, we would

636
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:49,650
need to submit this annual action plan if approved with a

637
01:11:53,754 --> 01:11:56,924
contingency and then we would need to do some central amendment change if we were going to change it to

638
01:11:59,226 --> 01:12:02,763
construction, it's a different category that isn't addressed as one of the national objectives that are outlined in this

639
01:12:06,233 --> 01:12:06,233
particular consolidated plan so that can't be done.

640
01:12:13,807 --> 01:12:17,644
>> any other comments or questions? >> I was just going to say, from that aspect, tiny homes are not

641
01:12:20,614 --> 01:12:20,614
allowed in our current code, but the minimum square footage is

642
01:12:24,785 --> 01:12:24,785
700 square feet in our current land development code.

643
01:12:37,631 --> 01:12:37,631
>> I attended two of the public meetings, and where does the

644
01:12:43,971 --> 01:12:47,208
public comment come in on the consolidated plan or annual plan? >> it will come in on both, I'll

645
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:49,310
put the same -- it's a little challenging to separate some of

646
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,384
those comments as to which went to which part. Since they were presented together, my plan was to put the

647
01:13:01,789 --> 01:13:01,789
comments in total in both the survey that has been presented

648
01:13:08,562 --> 01:13:08,562
and has been available to the public is specifically on the

649
01:13:12,633 --> 01:13:16,070
consolidated plan. So the survey results will be under consolidated plan specifically.

650
01:13:18,639 --> 01:13:18,639
>> the reason I ask this, both meetings are extremely large or

651
01:13:24,411 --> 01:13:24,411
not large, predominant military presence and both those

652
01:13:29,449 --> 01:13:32,786
meetings, and quite honestly the military spread is a huge population in clay county and spread throughout the county.

653
01:13:37,658 --> 01:13:37,658
so I don't know how -- do you want to comment about the plan

654
01:13:43,964 --> 01:13:45,332
now to. >> I'll go ahead and we'll take a look at the proposed annual action plan.

655
01:13:49,737 --> 01:13:49,737
so this outlines more specific recommended projects under those

656
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:58,479
national objectives that are outlined in the consolidated plan. This would be year 1 of 5 years

657
01:14:02,283 --> 01:14:02,283
and the award estimate from year one is $1,057,772 and in the

658
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:12,560
projects that have been proposed in those national objectives

659
01:14:19,099 --> 01:14:23,003
would be primarily sidewalk installation and/or improvement, so these would then be determined at address level,

660
01:14:27,708 --> 01:14:27,708
which we have a list of pre-approved sidewalk, sidewalk

661
01:14:33,147 --> 01:14:33,147
intersections, that were approved by the board earlier in

662
01:14:37,818 --> 01:14:40,754
the spring so that if this is approved, we have a list to be able to move forward with and they are from areas around the

663
01:14:50,297 --> 01:14:50,297
county in everyone's district and just as an example of some

664
01:14:54,802 --> 01:14:54,802
of the projects that are on that list, it would be high impact

665
01:15:01,041 --> 01:15:01,041
areas county road 218, ten, jefferson avenue, so they do go

666
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:06,680
around the county and also then 88 upgrades intersections and

667
01:15:11,819 --> 01:15:11,819
there's a list of intersections, a couple or aurora and ursa, so

668
01:15:21,228 --> 01:15:21,228
again, they're spread around are intersections that require some

669
01:15:26,233 --> 01:15:26,233
ada compliance work. In the area parks and public

670
01:15:31,906 --> 01:15:31,906
facilities, the focus would be primarily on parks.

671
01:15:36,811 --> 01:15:40,681
these parks are and the ones that would be covered by cdbg, would be those that earn low moderate income areas.

672
01:15:44,852 --> 01:15:44,852
again one of the things that is in coordination with the

673
01:15:49,089 --> 01:15:49,089
strategic plan is ada compliance in the park system so these

674
01:15:53,093 --> 01:15:53,093
dollars could be used to fund those types of projects to bring

675
01:16:00,334 --> 01:16:00,334
more accessibility for all residents to those parks, in

676
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:09,844
some areas there are great facilities but they're not easily accessible for folks that have challenges so these dollars

677
01:16:13,314 --> 01:16:13,314
can be used to rectify that. Then we have community

678
01:16:19,286 --> 01:16:21,588
partnerships and non-profit expansion. This includes neighbourhood cleanups, community partnership

679
01:16:25,593 --> 01:16:25,593
portion, those have been part -- a core part of the current cdbg

680
01:16:30,831 --> 01:16:30,831
project and those would continue and those would focus, most

681
01:16:38,238 --> 01:16:38,238
generally are in the high range, tanglewood and bel air

682
01:16:43,811 --> 01:16:46,413
middlebrook area and those become partnerships with the community because we have neighbours and neighbourhoods

683
01:16:50,383 --> 01:16:50,383
and county staff and volunteers along with nonprofits in those

684
01:16:54,988 --> 01:16:54,988
areas that all get together to execute the community cleanups.

685
01:16:59,627 --> 01:16:59,627
in addition in this area, under this focus, we would have the

686
01:17:07,568 --> 01:17:11,505
potential for non-profit expansion, so this would be an organisation or organisations that would be selected through

687
01:17:18,212 --> 01:17:18,212
whatever mechanism the word finds appropriate to select

688
01:17:23,050 --> 01:17:23,050
those entities for non-profit expansion dollars and the

689
01:17:27,788 --> 01:17:31,625
allocation of those funds, of that million plus dollars looks like this pick would be $634,663 towards infrastructure in year

690
01:17:42,303 --> 01:17:42,303
one, $264,443 towards parks in year one.

691
01:17:48,642 --> 01:17:51,111
$105,777 for community partnerships and non-profit expansion and then administration at $52,889.

692
01:18:01,522 --> 01:18:04,091
questions on the specifics of the plan. >> I have a couple comments. With the annual plan and the

693
01:18:08,996 --> 01:18:08,996
non-profit expansion, listed to nonprofits explicitly and I

694
01:18:13,801 --> 01:18:17,170
don't think we should explicitly list any nonprofits. I think that should be open for application interpretation when

695
01:18:22,109 --> 01:18:22,109
the time comes. So I would like to see that

696
01:18:26,246 --> 01:18:29,950
removed. And just as a side, I was going to get a kick out the administration customer gets 5%

697
01:18:32,953 --> 01:18:32,953
of the federal grant -- one of my previous lives with

698
01:18:37,891 --> 01:18:41,862
university of florida university system, they were pre-negotiated administrative costs of approvals of 6070% of every

699
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:46,200
dollar went to administration and it baffled me how they got

700
01:18:51,505 --> 01:18:54,275
that approved through the federal government. But we get 5%, so it's a make over cost.

701
01:18:59,479 --> 01:18:59,479
and that's for these, all her great benefit she get in

702
01:19:04,418 --> 01:19:07,788
paycheque and all that kind of stuff, her contribution to this grant, what was the number? 52,000 for a whole year -- for

703
01:19:12,893 --> 01:19:15,829
all the people working under grant, part of our salary as part of the administration as well, so it probably doesn't

704
01:19:19,967 --> 01:19:19,967
cover the actual cost of administration but that's what

705
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:26,240
we're allocated 5%. Any way, like I said, I don't

706
01:19:33,380 --> 01:19:33,380
like to see -- I. Would like to have it open until all

707
01:19:37,751 --> 01:19:37,751
nonprofits, making a bit -- >> we'll make that change and

708
01:19:42,423 --> 01:19:42,423
get an updated draft for the final public hearing.

709
01:19:49,563 --> 01:19:49,563
>> any other comments? >> I have two more pieces.

710
01:19:58,038 --> 01:19:58,038
the schedule, we did six public meetings this time, which is

711
01:20:03,744 --> 01:20:03,744
more than we have done in the past.

712
01:20:08,282 --> 01:20:08,282
we did get a meeting at every district.

713
01:20:14,388 --> 01:20:14,388
to commissioner condon in your area, because it's large, we did

714
01:20:19,393 --> 01:20:19,393
have a good turnout. We had a very strong veteran

715
01:20:27,601 --> 01:20:27,601
presence, veteran council members, veterans themselves and

716
01:20:31,605 --> 01:20:31,605
business owners that serve a non-profit directors that serve

717
01:20:37,545 --> 01:20:41,115
that community. So they were a strong presence at every one of the meetings this time.

718
01:20:43,517 --> 01:20:43,517
public comment is still open and remains open through the end of

719
01:20:48,522 --> 01:20:48,522
the day, not sure exactly whether that's midnight or 5:00,

720
01:20:56,196 --> 01:20:56,196
but I will take it to midnight. It doesn't shut anything doesn't

721
01:21:01,202 --> 01:21:01,202
shut off but anything that is received through midnight on

722
01:21:06,874 --> 01:21:06,874
july 18th, which is saturday will be part of this public

723
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,383
comment. So then, what is the -- what is coming next? Where are we and what are our

724
01:21:21,188 --> 01:21:21,188
next steps? So all the public meetings have

725
01:21:25,358 --> 01:21:25,358
concluded, we do have the public comment.

726
01:21:30,264 --> 01:21:30,264
still open through july 18, and the next steps are all of the

727
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:39,707
public comments and survey results will be consolidated. We will put those into the packets and the next set of

728
01:21:43,744 --> 01:21:43,744
drafts that will be part of the second public hearing will have

729
01:21:48,081 --> 01:21:52,019
the change that commissioner renninger has suggested to the annual action plan and then the public comments will be included

730
01:21:56,590 --> 01:21:56,590
in those packets. At that point there will be a

731
01:22:01,027 --> 01:22:01,027
second public hearing and then a vote for approval or discussion

732
01:22:07,101 --> 01:22:07,101
on change, however you all want what you want to make happen

733
01:22:11,806 --> 01:22:11,806
with this plan. That will be on the

734
01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:15,810
28th of july. >> I have one other comment.

735
01:22:20,414 --> 01:22:20,414
it came from the library meeting that we had, we had an

736
01:22:24,618 --> 01:22:24,618
individual who had a shoe stored I think it was in five points or

737
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:33,660
someplace, moved it to blanding and he and his wife showed up at the meeting and they live in. >> they live in jacksonville but

738
01:22:41,268 --> 01:22:41,268
his business is online and he was so complimentary -- he said

739
01:22:46,006 --> 01:22:46,006
he never got anything in jacksonville, but since he moved

740
01:22:50,311 --> 01:22:54,281
his business to clay county he's been -- he's part of the chamber, so he learned about the chamber, he came to this

741
01:22:58,051 --> 01:22:58,051
meeting, he was complimentary of clay county and how they treated

742
01:23:02,289 --> 01:23:02,289
their businesses. He actually told me that, he was

743
01:23:08,929 --> 01:23:08,929
very pleased with his move to clay county, so good job jody.

744
01:23:14,368 --> 01:23:14,368
>> thank you. >> I'm good if there are no

745
01:23:20,541 --> 01:23:22,442
other questions. >> thank you very much. >> going to open the public hearing on item number 16.

746
01:23:25,446 --> 01:23:25,446
I do have a card on this item from jessica.

747
01:23:30,284 --> 01:23:30,284
come on a familiar face cat clay county

748
01:23:39,126 --> 01:23:39,126
veteran of the year. >> good evening my name is jess,

749
01:23:45,599 --> 01:23:45,599
I am representing clay veterans, appreciated the opportunity to

750
01:23:52,105 --> 01:23:55,643
speak. A few comments so I don't ramble. I have reviewed the draft of the

751
01:23:58,578 --> 01:23:58,578
five-year plan, and I found it to be well written, unlike the

752
01:24:04,751 --> 01:24:04,751
first five-year plan it provides great flexibility being able to

753
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:13,727
support emergent projects because we are not locked in as hard. Also thank you to jody and her

754
01:24:16,563 --> 01:24:19,800
team for all of the public meetings you have put out and put the time together. I would like to focus on a

755
01:24:22,936 --> 01:24:26,640
portion of the plan for the neighborhood enhancement and nonprofit capacity building. Saint johns county operation

756
01:24:32,646 --> 01:24:35,983
lifeline, the application for the community development block grant was approved for funding. And governor ron desantis

757
01:24:41,288 --> 01:24:41,288
signed the budget which included $200,000 appropriation for the

758
01:24:46,994 --> 01:24:46,994
veterans academy and st. John's community skills center.

759
01:24:51,865 --> 01:24:51,865
said that saint johns county is just a little bit ahead of what

760
01:24:55,903 --> 01:24:55,903
we are doing or what we would like to do.

761
01:25:00,140 --> 01:25:00,140
veterans council in trenton and clay veterans asked a similar

762
01:25:04,878 --> 01:25:04,878
project that expands access be considered in the plan.

763
01:25:11,618 --> 01:25:11,618
community facilities provide more than a space, they serve as

764
01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:17,090
a centralized location residents connect with information

765
01:25:21,328 --> 01:25:21,328
services and one another. For many individuals, finding

766
01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:25,399
the right resource can be challenging.

767
01:25:29,670 --> 01:25:29,670
a accessible facility can help people learn about available

768
01:25:33,674 --> 01:25:36,811
services can connect with nonprofit organizations and government agencies and participate in programs that

769
01:25:38,979 --> 01:25:38,979
support health, independence and overall quality of life.

770
01:25:44,351 --> 01:25:46,987
thank you so much. >> you have one more minute. >> I have one more minute? All right here it goes.

771
01:25:50,991 --> 01:25:50,991
as you guys develop your community block grant the

772
01:25:55,329 --> 01:25:55,329
five-year plan, we appreciate it in the planning process includes

773
01:25:59,533 --> 01:26:02,670
opportunities for residents to share information about community grant projects. We had our first caregiver

774
01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:08,209
luncheon today, and specifically there are caregivers for

775
01:26:13,881 --> 01:26:13,881
veterans, it was the first one we ever had in the community.

776
01:26:18,018 --> 01:26:18,018
and the looks in their eyes, it was emotional.

777
01:26:24,491 --> 01:26:24,491
there are a few other caregivers that are not specific, we need a

778
01:26:30,864 --> 01:26:34,768
place for groups like that to meet. I want to make sure that community services, veteran

779
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:39,439
services and nonprofits work more closely together.

780
01:26:44,111 --> 01:26:44,111
>> thank you jess. Any other comments, public

781
01:26:48,582 --> 01:26:48,582
comment on item number 16? Seeing none I will close the

782
01:26:53,153 --> 01:26:53,153
public hearing. This is the first public

783
01:26:57,190 --> 01:27:00,060
hearing, we don't have to take a vote on this one tonight but I will come back at our next meeting.

784
01:27:02,563 --> 01:27:02,563
thank you very much. Moving on to the end of the

785
01:27:07,134 --> 01:27:07,134
agenda now, commissioner comments.

786
01:27:12,173 --> 01:27:15,776
commissioner condon? >> I just have a couple. You probably saw the email but I thought it was really cool so,

787
01:27:23,016 --> 01:27:23,016
the boys & girls club that operates after school programs

788
01:27:27,054 --> 01:27:27,054
all over the county, they have one at the high school, they are

789
01:27:34,128 --> 01:27:34,128
working in partnership with this company called waterworks,

790
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:39,300
taking these mobile tech jobs simulators around this week,

791
01:27:49,343 --> 01:27:49,343
different places, they had eight stops, one at clay crescent

792
01:27:54,982 --> 01:27:54,982
heights high school was one, and the students actually get to try

793
01:27:59,920 --> 01:27:59,920
out trades, they get to try out like plumbing and welding, they

794
01:28:04,024 --> 01:28:04,024
had a virtual reality thing. I just think it's really awesome

795
01:28:13,166 --> 01:28:13,166
that there is a partner in our community that is willing to

796
01:28:18,939 --> 01:28:21,842
bring a bit more than just telling young people they need to get into trades, and talking with some of our local business

797
01:28:28,582 --> 01:28:28,582
owners, I had heard they are struggling to hire enough

798
01:28:34,054 --> 01:28:34,054
employees, and I know that you probably have seen the notes but

799
01:28:40,427 --> 01:28:40,427
northeast builders association is building a regional job

800
01:28:46,166 --> 01:28:46,166
training apprenticeship program center in jacksonville in

801
01:28:51,939 --> 01:28:54,709
august, and we will get invited for the ribbon cutting and that kind of thing, but they have said they have 100% job

802
01:29:00,881 --> 01:29:00,881
placement, really high wages. I think it is important, for our

803
01:29:05,652 --> 01:29:05,652
jobs is to connect those employees and business

804
01:29:11,692 --> 01:29:11,692
opportunities in our area, and commercial development will

805
01:29:16,063 --> 01:29:16,063
become more important to us as we move to our tax reform which

806
01:29:22,069 --> 01:29:22,069
I support tax reform but we have to figure out how to fund basic

807
01:29:27,841 --> 01:29:29,977
services. Anyway just thought it was kind of cool that we are looking at potential young people in our

808
01:29:34,515 --> 01:29:37,918
community finding skills to have jobs to stay in our community. Just wanted to update you on that.

809
01:29:39,987 --> 01:29:39,987
otherwise have a great week. >> thank you commissioner co

810
01:29:45,492 --> 01:29:47,428
condon. >> since the last time we were all together, the five of us were in orlando for the florida

811
01:29:54,034 --> 01:29:54,034
association of counties summer workshop, and I just have to say

812
01:30:01,942 --> 01:30:01,942
one that it is always refreshing to connect with other

813
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:06,080
commissioners across the state and get their perspectives on

814
01:30:10,417 --> 01:30:13,721
things. This workshop or series also did not disappoint, I also want to highlight again, a special

815
01:30:19,260 --> 01:30:21,962
congratulations to commissioner condon for winning her election, that is really exciting. I know you will do us proud.

816
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:26,600
the second comment tonight, as was said in the update, the oak

817
01:30:33,007 --> 01:30:33,007
creek library design unveiling conversation continues.

818
01:30:38,145 --> 01:30:38,145
this is the meeting that was rescheduled from the

819
01:30:42,449 --> 01:30:42,449
18th of june, and so it will be as you stated this thursday, six

820
01:30:47,187 --> 01:30:47,187
to 7:00 p.m., the phase athletic center, the phase two athletic

821
01:30:52,793 --> 01:30:52,793
center. There are two, with the winding

822
01:30:57,597 --> 01:30:57,597
staircase, that is the one, on the second floor.

823
01:31:02,703 --> 01:31:05,873
the third thing, it kind of spurs from the conversations that we had again during the update that ed gave us, I am

824
01:31:10,944 --> 01:31:10,944
very curious, I think courtney this one is for you, what it

825
01:31:14,948 --> 01:31:14,948
will take to get incentives in our construction complex for

826
01:31:19,987 --> 01:31:19,987
early completion. And I'm also curious to know

827
01:31:24,558 --> 01:31:28,262
what does the history tell us concerning which would be more cost effective? Is it completion bonuses or

828
01:31:32,066 --> 01:31:32,066
liquidated damages? Because that seems to be where

829
01:31:36,704 --> 01:31:36,704
there is some -- do you have any guidance on that?

830
01:31:40,875 --> 01:31:40,875
>> we do have contracts that have incentives in them, not

831
01:31:46,079 --> 01:31:46,079
sure about that particular contract.

832
01:31:50,551 --> 01:31:50,551
most of our contracts do have liquidated damages and then some

833
01:31:55,655 --> 01:31:59,326
of them do have incentives. >> so that is an isolated incident where there wasn't an incident to complete the project

834
01:32:05,566 --> 01:32:07,701
early? >> I'm not sure. It depends on the rfp and what was negotiated before it came to

835
01:32:13,340 --> 01:32:15,409
us. I think we would have to get with the purchasing team in connection with the rfp if that

836
01:32:19,246 --> 01:32:19,246
is something that the board is interested in, so that would be

837
01:32:25,752 --> 01:32:25,752
something to talk to them about. But I do know with the

838
01:32:29,890 --> 01:32:29,890
transportation program we did do that in our contract.

839
01:32:34,761 --> 01:32:36,463
>> right. The lasting impression that I got from the update was you have contractors who are more

840
01:32:42,269 --> 01:32:46,073
incentivized to delay a project than to complete it early, maybe I misunderstood but that was what I got from richard's

841
01:32:52,779 --> 01:32:56,650
comments. So I don't know -- did any of our projects trigger the early completion clause of those

842
01:33:01,322 --> 01:33:01,322
agreements? >> yes, on the transportation,

843
01:33:07,094 --> 01:33:10,431
there were incentives for them to complete at certain stages and also liquidated damages, a lot of times they canceled out.

844
01:33:14,368 --> 01:33:14,368
we do have projects where they received incentives.

845
01:33:18,706 --> 01:33:18,706
I don't know this particular project, why it didn't have

846
01:33:23,777 --> 01:33:27,348
incentives, I just assumed that it wasn't part of what we contracted them for, or bid out at that time.

847
01:33:33,086 --> 01:33:33,086
>> there is basically incentives, also there is also

848
01:33:38,225 --> 01:33:38,225
the prospect of your early completion incentives and your

849
01:33:44,198 --> 01:33:44,198
liquidated damages zeroing out, such that there is a zero sum

850
01:33:48,202 --> 01:33:51,005
game there, is what I just heard you say. Help me understand? >> so I'm trying to think at the

851
01:33:57,278 --> 01:34:00,481
bottom there were certain goals based on plans, if they were able to get the plans at a certain point they got

852
01:34:04,017 --> 01:34:07,821
incentives, then you have construction, and also weather delays and time delays, but we had charts --

853
01:34:12,693 --> 01:34:12,693
>> we are basically giving it back at that point... Okay.

854
01:34:17,731 --> 01:34:21,568
>> I think it was hard when we were trying to do the incentives from the board standpoint is you know, doing early completion,

855
01:34:27,608 --> 01:34:31,412
what amount of money are we willing to give them or provide them for early completion, versus just a contract.

856
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:36,550
>> wait a minute, early completion is an incentive so

857
01:34:40,888 --> 01:34:40,888
they get dollars there, but then the liquidated damages portion

858
01:34:45,826 --> 01:34:45,826
of the contract gets triggered and there are more dollars?

859
01:34:50,131 --> 01:34:50,131
it is one dimensional, right? It is coming from us --

860
01:34:54,735 --> 01:34:58,305
>> know the liquidated damages they are paying us for projects to complete. >> so it washes out?

861
01:35:06,380 --> 01:35:09,917
>> the incentive, this is what you have to balance, you do a contract calculated on a contract, $13 million, and then

862
01:35:13,787 --> 01:35:16,457
you want to give them an incentive to maybe complete in a couple of months early, and I remember because it was being

863
01:35:22,529 --> 01:35:25,533
called the carrot, what can we give them? What is the board willing to put out there in extra money to have

864
01:35:31,772 --> 01:35:31,772
that incentive? >> I will just say there

865
01:35:40,347 --> 01:35:43,650
shouldn't have to be evaluated on a per project basis, it won't be the same for every single one.

866
01:35:45,586 --> 01:35:45,586
it is difficult to determine, we may want to look into that we

867
01:35:49,857 --> 01:35:52,092
can. Most of our construction projects we don't have the incentive, but we do have

868
01:35:54,862 --> 01:35:58,532
liquidated damages on everything. >> on most we do not have incentives but we do have

869
01:36:01,368 --> 01:36:04,238
liquidated damages on all of them? >> yes, ma'am,. >> and the liquidated damages

870
01:36:07,775 --> 01:36:10,844
based on the roadway project, yes. For the building being evaluated on what were the actual damage

871
01:36:14,548 --> 01:36:17,951
be to the county if it's not completed on time. >> is there a standard incentive matrix or is that totally up to

872
01:36:22,990 --> 01:36:22,990
who writes the contract? >> for the transportation, it

873
01:36:28,529 --> 01:36:28,529
was developed through wgi, it was a different formula.

874
01:36:34,902 --> 01:36:38,172
>> and that's I think the big thing too, that all five of us would have to think about, how much more are you willing to

875
01:36:42,243 --> 01:36:42,243
pay? We are trying to be conse

876
01:36:49,983 --> 01:36:52,452
conservative. >> then there's two other things, it's not allowed under federal rules.

877
01:36:55,756 --> 01:36:55,756
if it's a federal contract, depending on the grant funding

878
01:36:59,927 --> 01:36:59,927
and the board has to consider, so you have a bitter that says I

879
01:37:04,364 --> 01:37:07,367
will do a project with $10 million, the next one says I will do it for ten and a half, by the time you give incentives

880
01:37:12,706 --> 01:37:14,408
it's $11 million. Would it really be in the best interest of the taxpayers because he did not get the best

881
01:37:17,010 --> 01:37:17,010
value, he may got it faster but those are things the department

882
01:37:21,015 --> 01:37:23,750
has to lay out and that's why this gets really complicated and that's why I think the county has moved towards liquidated

883
01:37:27,754 --> 01:37:29,824
damages. You say you will do a project, you will say you will get it done on x a day, if you go past

884
01:37:34,361 --> 01:37:34,361
x a day. >> during the process, I

885
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,238
understand all the points. I don't have a problem, again I go back to the update we received pointed to there is

886
01:37:48,776 --> 01:37:48,776
more of an incentive, if there aren't any incentives to get the

887
01:37:54,248 --> 01:37:57,351
project completed, then where is the rub? One of the questions that came was how long will it take for

888
01:37:59,986 --> 01:38:03,790
these projects to be completed? I am thinking like why are they dragging their feet? Is there a number of updates

889
01:38:07,661 --> 01:38:07,661
that we have received over the last several years where the

890
01:38:12,365 --> 01:38:12,365
project stalls because they are disputing terms, and then you

891
01:38:17,704 --> 01:38:17,704
have the added wrinkles of weather and all the things,

892
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:25,646
inherent to a construction project. So I am looking to discern what makes the most sense, if you are

893
01:38:31,084 --> 01:38:31,084
saying okay, we got all of these I call them landmines, you don't

894
01:38:37,091 --> 01:38:37,091
want to trip up anything that will cause problems, but I heard

895
01:38:41,128 --> 01:38:41,128
a problem and I was looking for a solution.

896
01:38:45,165 --> 01:38:45,165
so I don't have an issue with what sounds to me like

897
01:38:53,006 --> 01:38:56,944
negotiating a tightrope and just leaving that alone, but I am curious to know where is the balance?

898
01:39:06,353 --> 01:39:06,353
when the constituents are asking us, when projects will be

899
01:39:10,457 --> 01:39:13,961
completed, and we keep telling them well, it was originally supposed to be completed in august now we are looking at a

900
01:39:17,164 --> 01:39:20,634
december timeline, is it enough that our response is not only do we have to wait but the county will get some of their money

901
01:39:23,937 --> 01:39:26,206
back? I think that is really the essence of the conversation and I think that is for them to

902
01:39:29,443 --> 01:39:33,047
decide, as I am hearing the feedback in this conversation. But it's not lost on me that the question tonight, as I heard it

903
01:39:41,721 --> 01:39:41,721
was, we are not really dangling the carrot to your point to get

904
01:39:46,993 --> 01:39:46,993
these projects completed on time or early.

905
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,103
>> on that particular project there is federal funding so you wouldn't have it anyways. >> that is an answer to the

906
01:40:00,307 --> 01:40:03,610
question -- >> I don't know how we came up with the number of weeks, the contractor asked for a certain

907
01:40:09,049 --> 01:40:11,552
number of days, maybe that is something we should evaluate if they were really able to finish it, if they could have finished

908
01:40:17,291 --> 01:40:17,291
it much earlier but yet we gave them three more months, I don't

909
01:40:23,163 --> 01:40:27,101
know the answer to that. >> we also rely on the engineer records and architects. We evaluate that along with the

910
01:40:31,539 --> 01:40:31,539
liquidated damages they also suggested that.

911
01:40:36,910 --> 01:40:36,910
>> that begs the question what do you mean the proposed

912
01:40:41,448 --> 01:40:43,984
recommendation, you guys go in and evaluate? So it becomes a conversation piece not necessarily something

913
01:40:48,222 --> 01:40:48,222
you accept? >> if we agree with it or not.

914
01:40:52,659 --> 01:40:55,095
the engineer records and the architect are the experts on how long it should take based on the data.

915
01:40:58,732 --> 01:40:58,732
but for instance on fire station 24, we had a hard deadline so we

916
01:41:03,103 --> 01:41:03,103
could not use the recommended date, we had to finish by this.

917
01:41:10,978 --> 01:41:10,978
>> okay. That is clear.

918
01:41:15,982 --> 01:41:15,982
yeah. I think you have answered my

919
01:41:21,255 --> 01:41:21,255
questions. And has given me more to think

920
01:41:25,726 --> 01:41:25,726
about but very helpful, thank you.

921
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:33,400
wow. Those are my thoughts.

922
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:42,977
>> mr. Renninger? >> just to amplify commissioner condon comments about where works, I tend to be on the

923
01:41:51,284 --> 01:41:55,222
exhibit with the drops everything kind of I put together a turbine engine by the way with my artificial

924
01:42:02,129 --> 01:42:02,129
intelligence goggles. Now I am a certified airplane

925
01:42:07,601 --> 01:42:11,472
mechanic. [laughter] no, it was really good. Good exposure for young people to different careers, they don't have the opportunity in their

926
01:42:14,675 --> 01:42:14,675
normal lives. It's like referring back to my

927
01:42:19,513 --> 01:42:23,049
days when people came to college and I said, what is your ultimate goal? And they would say I don't know,

928
01:42:24,918 --> 01:42:27,721
and I would say what are you doing here if you don't know? You're wasting your time and my time.

929
01:42:30,023 --> 01:42:30,023
it did not happen so much in my field which was the trades,

930
01:42:37,765 --> 01:42:37,765
automotive mechanics, diesel mechanics, child care and all

931
01:42:42,035 --> 01:42:45,505
that kind of stuff. General education area, students go to college, they don't know why they are there.

932
01:42:48,809 --> 01:42:48,809
it's not productive. This gives students an exposure,

933
01:42:53,013 --> 01:42:53,013
we used to have high school fairs where we would bring high

934
01:42:57,550 --> 01:42:59,987
schools to our facilities and let them touch real tools and all that. It's a really helpful effort.

935
01:43:04,157 --> 01:43:04,157
more importantly, this project was initiated for dual county

936
01:43:11,065 --> 01:43:11,065
schools so the conversations I had, they were kind of pushed

937
01:43:15,936 --> 01:43:19,439
away. That is why they are concentrating in clay county schools. Once again the exposure to clay, the welcoming position of clay

938
01:43:25,546 --> 01:43:28,749
is much greater and clay county schools. I thought that was interesting. I have a couple things.

939
01:43:35,389 --> 01:43:35,389
one of our primary duties is safety and security, this week

940
01:43:40,794 --> 01:43:43,697
we had to talk a little bit about fire safety. We had a mortality, a death in a fire this past weekend.

941
01:43:48,736 --> 01:43:48,736
it is still being investigated but nonetheless, we did escape

942
01:43:53,774 --> 01:43:53,774
the july fourth home fires, as we understand we did not have

943
01:43:58,045 --> 01:44:01,181
any home fires which is very common over the holidays, but we did have some kind of structure shed fire where we lost an

944
01:44:06,219 --> 01:44:09,256
individual on saturday night I think it was. I want to ask the public to be vigilant with fire safety.

945
01:44:14,929 --> 01:44:14,929
traffic safety, just so you k know, sending an announcement

946
01:44:19,933 --> 01:44:19,933
about an annual southern slow down effort by fhp to slow

947
01:44:25,806 --> 01:44:29,042
people down on the highways. If you see a lot of blue lights, they may be ours and they may be somebody else's, but

948
01:44:32,546 --> 01:44:32,546
nonetheless, july 13th through 18th, in florida, alabama,

949
01:44:39,419 --> 01:44:42,956
georgia south carolina and tennessee, operation southern slow down so don't get caught this weekend.

950
01:44:46,827 --> 01:44:46,827
and then e-bike safety. We had several deaths in the

951
01:44:53,901 --> 01:44:53,901
county. Our goal is to you know first of

952
01:44:58,039 --> 01:45:00,541
all we need regulations for the e-bikes. We don't have them right now. The legislature passed a statute

953
01:45:07,114 --> 01:45:07,114
that was... The governor vetoed it.

954
01:45:15,756 --> 01:45:17,925
we don't. And the real tragedy of that bill I think was they had a work group in that bill, an initial

955
01:45:26,333 --> 01:45:30,037
look at e-bike safety, it wasn't all encompassing but they had a work group in there. So that was vetoed as well.

956
01:45:33,474 --> 01:45:33,474
in lieu of that, I will try to get an e-bike safety pamphlet,

957
01:45:43,250 --> 01:45:46,853
and I talked to clay county school systems that are willing to distribute it as well, and if we can get something built out

958
01:45:51,859 --> 01:45:51,859
we were working with the health department and clay county

959
01:45:56,063 --> 01:45:56,063
sheriff's office, and our own departments to come up with

960
01:46:01,167 --> 01:46:01,167
those pamphlets or a folder, or a flier, something just to make

961
01:46:07,441 --> 01:46:09,843
parents aware that these are not toys. It is a form of transportation, okay?

962
01:46:13,547 --> 01:46:13,547
if you are using these vehicles for transportation there are

963
01:46:18,285 --> 01:46:18,285
certain hazards and rules that you can apply to mitigate those

964
01:46:25,159 --> 01:46:26,927
hazards. Parents I think sometimes think they are toys. And I know commissioner sgromolo

965
01:46:32,132 --> 01:46:35,369
and I observed for young 12-year-old boys in the middle of the road doing wheelies on e-bikes, and they can wreak

966
01:46:42,276 --> 01:46:42,276
havoc catastrophic results. We want to try to get parents

967
01:46:46,747 --> 01:46:49,716
aware that there are some restrictions. The last thing I have is something I think I have talked

968
01:46:54,621 --> 01:46:54,621
to you about, it is going to do away with copper line phones by

969
01:47:01,094 --> 01:47:02,996
2029. And I don't know, there are certain states that are suing at&t.

970
01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:09,870
the spc, this was going to happen sooner or later. And they removed the restrictions from removing all

971
01:47:15,342 --> 01:47:18,846
these lines, so at&t is leading the charge, they will try to remove these lines quicker, sooner than later.

972
01:47:23,984 --> 01:47:23,984
and I would say for 70% 80% of us, it really doesn't matter

973
01:47:28,388 --> 01:47:28,388
because we use fiber optics and we use internet, but there are

974
01:47:32,492 --> 01:47:32,492
maybe some people in the county that this is the only form of

975
01:47:37,230 --> 01:47:40,500
communication, so when you talk about 911 and there are no phone for you to call, you know, how serious is this in clay county?

976
01:47:48,008 --> 01:47:50,277
I don't know. But I think it is something we have to be aware of, next two or three years, some people may

977
01:47:55,716 --> 01:47:59,520
lose all forms of communication in their home. >> it's a really big deal. It is a huge deal in my area.

978
01:48:03,891 --> 01:48:03,891
I will tell you why, this will surprise you, fox meadow, very

979
01:48:10,397 --> 01:48:13,233
little cell phone service in the back of the neighborhood. Remember when they changed the cellular so the guy could build

980
01:48:15,402 --> 01:48:18,672
a cell tower on his private land but he hasn't finished construction for whatever reason, that is his business,

981
01:48:21,842 --> 01:48:25,645
but those residents are greatly wanting a cell tower out of there because for that very reason.

982
01:48:28,115 --> 01:48:28,115
even at our own park, they had conversations with the chief

983
01:48:34,554 --> 01:48:34,554
because they have the a and b at the fox meadow community park,

984
01:48:39,125 --> 01:48:39,125
but they said they cannot use -- they cannot use the pulsepoint,

985
01:48:44,998 --> 01:48:47,734
if they call 911 to use the pulsepoint to tell them how to use the a and, it doesn't always work because they don't have

986
01:48:51,905 --> 01:48:55,609
great service. It is a big deal. I talked to different providers and then the interesting thing,

987
01:48:59,813 --> 01:49:02,983
troy and I got down this path with the broadband thing several years ago and it kind of dropped off everybody's radar, is the

988
01:49:08,688 --> 01:49:08,688
towers, the cell towers are not owned by the big carriers

989
01:49:12,860 --> 01:49:12,860
anymore, so at&t and verizon, they don't go to put these in,

990
01:49:17,630 --> 01:49:17,630
they rent tower space. So it is a very complicated

991
01:49:23,303 --> 01:49:24,604
issue. I don't know what the solution is but you are right. >> the element of this I hadn't

992
01:49:30,610 --> 01:49:30,610
realized is some of the older elevators have copper wire phone

993
01:49:36,850 --> 01:49:40,354
lines, and fire alarms. So that is something we have to look at. I don't know if we will have

994
01:49:42,456 --> 01:49:45,392
elevators at old but it is something we need to be aware of or should be aware of and just take a look at it, what is the

995
01:49:49,763 --> 01:49:52,700
impact of copper lines going away? Because we all know it is happening, it is going to happen

996
01:49:55,802 --> 01:49:55,802
sooner than later. And I think that is all.

997
01:50:02,342 --> 01:50:02,342
hope everybody has a good week. That is all I have, thank you.

998
01:50:07,013 --> 01:50:08,849
>> thank you commissioner renninger. As everybody said, the summer event, it is always extremely

999
01:50:16,023 --> 01:50:16,023
valuable to hear what is going on in the state with other

1000
01:50:20,093 --> 01:50:20,093
county commissions, the state wide level.

1001
01:50:24,564 --> 01:50:28,068
attending a breakout out there about data centers and it was a very informative, one of the big takeaways of the breakout that I

1002
01:50:32,940 --> 01:50:32,940
took from was that commissioner in georgia who talked about all

1003
01:50:37,644 --> 01:50:37,644
kinds of levers at a local commissions can pull to protect

1004
01:50:41,815 --> 01:50:44,117
their community. I look forward to sharing those nuggets with staff as we continue to look at our

1005
01:50:48,788 --> 01:50:48,788
ordinance for that, and once again two shout outs, number 1

1006
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,229
thank you to commissioner renninger and commissioner condon, whether you realize it or not you were a mentor from

1007
01:50:59,967 --> 01:51:03,403
afar and in continued education, I finally got my commissioner certification from the university of florida, I think

1008
01:51:10,257 --> 01:51:13,393
people don't understand the breadth of information that we have to be exposed to as commissioners, somebody the

1009
01:51:16,796 --> 01:51:20,400
other day said my knowledge base is a mile wide but it is only an inch deep, that is kind of the way we have to approach so many

1010
01:51:24,371 --> 01:51:28,041
different topics, so that was exciting. Congratulations again betsy calculated the first clay county

1011
01:51:31,211 --> 01:51:33,513
commissioner ever to be in leadership. That is a very big deal and here is why, when you do this job

1012
01:51:38,518 --> 01:51:38,518
correctly in my opinion as all of us work so hard to do,

1013
01:51:44,825 --> 01:51:44,825
lobbying tallahassee, working with tallahassee to protect

1014
01:51:49,329 --> 01:51:53,199
clay county is one of the biggest things that we do. And the florida association of counties is our arm as

1015
01:51:57,437 --> 01:51:57,437
commissioners in tallahassee to fight for local control.

1016
01:52:01,808 --> 01:52:01,808
and by you winning that election and clay county having that

1017
01:52:06,146 --> 01:52:08,949
voice on the state stage is a really big deal. And I am really happy you are representing us there and having

1018
01:52:12,986 --> 01:52:16,523
the future speaker, we are setting ourselves up to be in a very good spot to continue to protect clay county, so I am

1019
01:52:20,493 --> 01:52:20,493
excited about that. And then that night, friday got

1020
01:52:25,499 --> 01:52:25,499
to attend with commissioner renninger and burke, the

1021
01:52:29,569 --> 01:52:29,569
firefighter graduation for the class of 2026 -- 01, just always

1022
01:52:35,042 --> 01:52:35,042
cool seeing the rookies get to the finish line and kind of like

1023
01:52:40,614 --> 01:52:44,517
the harry potter sorting hat, what station they will go to. Where they want to go you can tell and they get excited when

1024
01:52:46,953 --> 01:52:50,390
they get their first station assignment, and really it was so cool seeing the support of families, whether it was kids

1025
01:52:54,427 --> 01:52:58,098
dressed up as firefighters, whether it was their son or daughter you know, cousin, really cool clay county event.

1026
01:53:02,602 --> 01:53:02,602
thanks again to the church for opening their doors to hold

1027
01:53:08,742 --> 01:53:08,742
those events, and fourth of july was different it was different.

1028
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:13,480
the 250th, you can really feel the pride in the community, it