1 00:02:48,500 --> 00:03:05,800 I'd like to call this meeting, the Clay County Commission to order. We will begin with our invocation. President Rudy Garcia will lead us. Please come forward. Make sure the light is on and the mic is ready and then proceed. Hi. Good afternoon. Rudy Garcia with the Church of Jesus Christ of Light. Are they saying thank you for having me here? 2 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:20,170 Our dear Heavenly Father, we're grateful to be here this evening as we commence this Clay County commissioners business meeting and grateful for these leaders who sacrificed their 3 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:24,910 time and their talents and their efforts to lead and guide this part of 4 00:03:24,910 --> 00:03:29,750 Daivinyard. We're grateful for their sacrifices, for their good hearts, and 5 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:33,870 their desire to serve, and to support the community in which we live in. 6 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:38,730 Dear Father, we pray that the proceedings this evening will be inspired, that 7 00:03:38,730 --> 00:03:43,210 decisions will be made that will be according to thy will and the needs of the 8 00:03:43,210 --> 00:03:48,990 area and the members who live in this great community. We're grateful for all 9 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:54,550 those who live here for the businesses, for the schools and the religious organizations 10 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:59,990 that are in the area. Please, we pray that that will bless each of those that live 11 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:05,170 in the area that they will feel I love and be grateful for the blessings that they have. 12 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:10,210 Again, we pray for inspiration and guidance as we proceed through this meeting this evening 13 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:13,930 and we humbly ask for these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. 14 00:04:15,550 --> 00:04:17,430 Please join me in the play. 15 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:25,170 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for 16 00:04:25,170 --> 00:04:32,390 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 17 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:33,670 Thank you. 18 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,100 Please call the roll. 19 00:04:41,610 --> 00:04:42,290 Commissioner Nolte. 20 00:04:43,090 --> 00:04:43,650 Commissioner Wittington. 21 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:44,070 Here. 22 00:04:44,330 --> 00:04:45,130 Commissioner Lawson. 23 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:45,550 Here. 24 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:46,510 Commissioner Wagner. 25 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:46,910 Here. 26 00:04:48,050 --> 00:04:48,650 Chair. 27 00:04:49,970 --> 00:04:50,570 Chair. 28 00:04:51,730 --> 00:04:52,090 Chair. 29 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:52,530 Chair. 30 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,320 Next item on this evening's agenda is the approval of the agenda. 31 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,100 Commissioner Johnson moved to approve tonight's agenda. 32 00:05:03,580 --> 00:05:05,860 Motion been made for the approval of this evening's agenda. 33 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Are there any questions or comments? 34 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,660 Seeing none, you'll recognize the close. 35 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:12,140 I close. 36 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:12,780 You call the roll. 37 00:05:14,970 --> 00:05:15,970 Commissioner Johnson. 38 00:05:16,430 --> 00:05:16,630 Yes. 39 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:17,510 Commissioner Thompson. 40 00:05:18,170 --> 00:05:18,350 Yes. 41 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:19,330 Commissioner Carpenter. 42 00:05:19,930 --> 00:05:20,090 Yes. 43 00:05:20,090 --> 00:05:21,530 Yes. Commissioner Whittington. Yes. 44 00:05:21,890 --> 00:05:22,990 Commissioner Lawson. Yes. 45 00:05:23,250 --> 00:05:24,190 Commissioner Wagner. Aye. 46 00:05:24,610 --> 00:05:26,110 Motion passes 6-0. 47 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:34,150 Members, are there any members of the public who would like to comment to the commission on any issues of importance to them? 48 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:40,540 Seeing none. That brings us to our consent agenda administrator. 49 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:47,160 The consent agenda allows the commission to act upon items considered to be routine and approved in one motion. 50 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,780 These may include items that have been reviewed by the commission in a prior session. 51 00:05:50,780 --> 00:05:54,780 There will be no separate discussion unless a commission request that an item be removed 52 00:05:54,780 --> 00:05:57,160 from the consent agenda and considered separately. 53 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,740 There are two items on the agenda this evening under consent. 54 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,480 The first item is approval of the minutes from the July 25th business meeting. 55 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:13,440 In resolution 2024-226 is approving the employee's payments from July 27th to August 2nd. 56 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:20,520 there are 175 invoices that total $299,504 and 87 cents. 57 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,260 Thank you. 58 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:25,340 Are there any questions or comments related to the consent agenda? 59 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:28,660 Seeing none, Commissioner Johnson. 60 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Move to approve tonight's consent agenda. 61 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Motion been made for approval of the evening's consent agenda for the discussion. 62 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,500 Seeing none, you are recognized to close. 63 00:06:37,780 --> 00:06:37,960 I close. 64 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Please call the roll. 65 00:06:40,380 --> 00:06:41,400 Commissioner Johnson. 66 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Yes. 67 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:50,600 Commissioner Thompson, Commissioner Carpenter, Commissioner Weithington, Commissioner Lawson, Commissioner Wagner, motion passes, 6-0. 68 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:59,040 That brings us to the seating's regular agenda. There is one item on the seating's regular agenda that is 2024-227, administrator. 69 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:08,060 Resolution 2024-227 is approving invoice payments for the Clay County Prosecutor's Office from July 27th to August 2nd. 70 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:11,340 There are 12 invoices totaling $9,255. 71 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:12,900 $1.59 cents. 72 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:17,790 Any questions? 73 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:21,010 Seeing none, is there a motion, Commissioner Johnson? 74 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:24,250 Move to approve 2024-227. 75 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:27,590 Emotions been made for approval of 2024-227. 76 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:28,750 Further discussion? 77 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:31,670 Seeing none, you will recognize the close. 78 00:07:32,130 --> 00:07:32,390 I close. 79 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:33,150 Please call the roll. 80 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:35,370 Commissioner Johnson. 81 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:36,070 Yes. 82 00:07:36,350 --> 00:07:36,970 Commissioner Thompson. 83 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:38,170 I request myself. 84 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:39,590 Commissioner Carpenter. 85 00:07:39,870 --> 00:07:39,990 Yes. 86 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:41,030 Commissioner Willington. 87 00:07:41,750 --> 00:07:41,950 Yes. 88 00:07:42,330 --> 00:07:43,050 Commissioner Lawson. 89 00:07:43,390 --> 00:07:43,590 Yes. 90 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:44,490 Yes, Commissioner Wagner. 91 00:07:44,690 --> 00:07:44,770 Aye. 92 00:07:45,030 --> 00:07:47,050 Motion passes, five in favor, one recusal. 93 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:50,980 It brings us to discussion items. 94 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,600 We have two discussion items on this evening's agenda. 95 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:57,820 The first one being Chapter 90, Parks, Updates, Administrator. 96 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:05,060 Yes, as the Commission may recall, a couple of weeks ago, our interim parks director presented 97 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:10,300 to the Commission of Weather, lengthy report on recommended changes and additions to Chapter 98 00:08:14,060 --> 00:08:28,260 there was some discussion, great feedback by the commission and so Director Davis is here again this evening to recap some of the information that we're recommending to change based upon the conversation that the commission had at the last meeting. 99 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,940 Thank you, please proceed. 100 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:45,680 We'll go through one ordinance tonight and that's 90.28 and that's page 34 and 35 of your 101 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:52,500 packet just to get to that. Last week or last time we discussed there was some questions 102 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:58,560 over the curfew ordinance and after some discussions with the sheriff's office we've come 103 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:06,680 to conclude to scrap that and incorporate it more into the park closings is basically 104 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:14,340 an all or nothing if we close the area, all ages, hour restrictions. So 90.28 would 105 00:09:14,340 --> 00:09:19,560 cover that park closings. We did add that the County Administrator and Parks Director 106 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:27,600 have authority to establish hours and close certain areas. And it also by simply posting 107 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,320 of signs with those such hours as we need to do. 108 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:35,920 We also did add a section that the sheriff, the fire chief, or an emergency management 109 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,720 director and an emergency may temporary close as a designated area or a portion of a 110 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,260 designated area when necessary, necessitated by public health or public safety reasons. 111 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,360 And that's basically the changes I can go through everything else if you want to again, 112 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,540 or if you have questions on this. 113 00:09:55,540 --> 00:10:00,840 are there any questions from the commissioners either on what was just the 114 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,440 section just covered or any other part of this chapter? 115 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:11,700 Seeing none, do you 116 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:17,840 just looking for consensus that we are approving of the of this chapter change? 117 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:21,900 Correct. We'd like some direction from the commission if you would like us to 118 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:27,580 bring it back. Chapter 90 with these revisions from the previous draft for 119 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:29,820 for your consideration for adoption at the next meeting. 120 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:34,000 That being said, if there are no questions for discussion, 121 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,900 is there consensus to move forward on that? 122 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,300 Seeing a lot of head nods and thumbs up, 123 00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:43,360 nobody has any concerns at this moment to express. 124 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:45,740 All right, well, it sounds like we have consensus, 125 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:47,800 so thank you very much for the presentation. 126 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:51,480 Next item on discussion would be update 127 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,540 on senior tax relief program administrator. 128 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:22,340 Yes, the commission is aware the county commission adopted an ordinance late last year for the county's senior real estate property tax credit program and the governor did signed a bill just recently that did do some clarifications with regarding that so we will be coming back to you all with some recommended changes to our ordinance so that we're in compliance with that. 129 00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:24,720 But we wanted to take the opportunity this evening. 130 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Administrative Services Officer Jacobs is here to give you an overview not only of those changes and what you might see in the changes to the ordinance coming forward, but also what staff's been doing and working on and what the plan is to roll out this for our senior property owners in January. 131 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Secretary. 132 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,220 Please proceed. 133 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Good evening. 134 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,140 Deanna Jacobs administrative services officer, 135 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:56,000 the senior real estate tax property tax credit 136 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,300 program. 137 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:57,480 I don't know why I can't say that. 138 00:11:57,540 --> 00:11:59,060 I type it 100 times a day. 139 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Brief overview as county administrator indicated the original bill was signed in July of 2023. 140 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:19,680 This commission adopted the ordinance and November of 23 and at that point staff began working on how we can make this work and get it implemented. 141 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:33,220 In July of 24 the Governor signed Senate Bill 756 that modified portions of the current law which as the administrator indicated will require some modifications. 142 00:12:34,060 --> 00:12:38,240 The changes to the current law indicate that you no longer have to have a Social Security 143 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,260 Retirement eligibility. 144 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:43,560 The base year does not predate the adoption of the program. 145 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Counties have expressed authority to adopt reasonable procedures to carry out the purpose 146 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,080 and intent. 147 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,240 We cannot limit, counties cannot limit the definition of or scope of eligible credit, amount 148 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,060 or eligible taxpayer, such as a cap on the assessed value or income. 149 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,140 and an adopted ordinance does not preclude it from being amended or superseded by petition. 150 00:13:07,660 --> 00:13:11,100 Those are some of the new things that don't really impact our current ordinance. 151 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:18,360 However, these new items do, and that would be that if the tax liability declines will 152 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,120 low out of the base year, the lower amount will become the new base year from that time forward. 153 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Our ordinance indicates that it will go down, but it will come back up to the original base year. 154 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,980 The base year shall be increased, reflect real property tax liability attributable to new 155 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:40,260 construction and improvements, only the incremental amount that changes the assessed value. 156 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:43,020 The assessors are really excited about that part. 157 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,960 The property, if the property is annexed into a taxing jurisdiction which they did not owe 158 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:56,400 real property on their base year, then the base year will be increased, reflect that tax 159 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:56,820 liability. 160 00:13:56,820 --> 00:14:00,200 All of these items will need to be adjusted in our current ordinance. 161 00:14:02,430 --> 00:14:03,810 So what's that mean for us? 162 00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:09,030 We have to amend the Clay County ordinance to reflect those changes and we plan to bring 163 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:10,990 that to you in August 22nd. 164 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:17,450 We've been working with various departments and Lucas from the assessor's office has been 165 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:20,090 really wonderful in helping us with some of that language. 166 00:14:20,830 --> 00:14:26,310 And we need to continue to hone our logistics and the implementation of the program in getting 167 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:35,150 the word out. Big, big obstacles in those things. The first one is finding a company that 168 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:41,650 can actually calculate our taxes accurately and to implement this program. The first 169 00:14:41,650 --> 00:14:47,010 year the program is simple because they're all starting with the same base year. After 170 00:14:47,010 --> 00:14:52,670 that it gets more complicated. We've reached out to our current vendor and some other vendors 171 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:59,830 across the state. No one has actually said they can do it. However, as of yesterday afternoon, we did 172 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,080 We received information from the company that would be an increased or an improvement, an upgrade to our current. The project cost for that would be $3.8 million. If you include the additional cost of project hosting, first year support, public access hosting, it increases the cost of $4.5 million. And they still can't tell us that they can do the taxes, but they've got a program for us. 173 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:36,100 So we're going to continue to look and push our current vendor to see if they can do what 174 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:41,760 we need them to do and to make all of the individual adjustments that need to be made 175 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,480 to the taxes. 176 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:47,890 This is what we envision the tax bills to look like. 177 00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:50,750 They will have four columns. 178 00:15:51,290 --> 00:15:53,550 One will be the initial taxing liability. 179 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:56,730 The second will be the base year. 180 00:15:56,730 --> 00:15:59,350 the third will be the credit, the credit, 181 00:15:59,590 --> 00:16:02,230 and then the last will be what is actually owed. 182 00:16:05,060 --> 00:16:07,060 So we decided that we would bring to you 183 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:07,900 a couple of examples. 184 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:09,260 We pulled two properties. 185 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,880 One is in the North Kansas City School District. 186 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,080 The other one is in the Liberty School District. 187 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,800 To just give you an example of what a tax bill 188 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,400 or a tax credit might look like for an individual. 189 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:27,200 We used real tax years just so there was no question 190 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,140 about the amount of the tax that was applied. 191 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,860 These are numbers from previous years. 192 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,260 In this case, the base year is the year prior to the year 193 00:16:38,260 --> 00:16:41,560 in which you become eligible, 62 or older, and you apply. 194 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:43,220 That's really important that we make sure 195 00:16:43,220 --> 00:16:46,960 that our citizens understand they have to apply for it, 196 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:53,160 for them to be eligible for this and for it to be applied to their taxes. 197 00:16:53,160 --> 00:17:00,060 services. You can see that we have listed out the different agencies that are the taxing 198 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:04,240 jurisdictions. And what's important on this particular one is the two at the bottom. 199 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,100 The state tax, which is the Blind Pension Fund, and then the North Kansas City School 200 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:17,660 debt, both of those are considered constitutionally protected. So they are not eligible for this 201 00:17:17,660 --> 00:17:23,040 program. Those two taxes will continue to increase. You can see the difference between 202 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:30,580 the new adjusted balance and what the base year was from $5.89 to $6.74 and $13.70 to $15.68. 203 00:17:32,020 --> 00:17:39,540 These, however, will stay the same and that's where the individual is going to get their tax 204 00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:39,720 break. 205 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:49,200 So if you look at this, you can see that the program eligible taxes are $4,200. The unadjusted 206 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:56,180 tax liability is $4,300 resulting in $159 savings for that year. 207 00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:57,940 That is this tax bill. 208 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Second example. 209 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:08,880 Similarly, broken down, you will see the debt levy and the state tax are not together. 210 00:18:09,380 --> 00:18:13,180 I don't want citizens to think that they will be always together. 211 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:19,020 So they may show up other places, but they will say debt levy or the state tax. 212 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:26,760 The base year is 1968, the balance due is 2164. 213 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:34,220 If you look at this, you can see that the eligible taxes are 2164, if they had not been 214 00:18:34,220 --> 00:18:39,620 in the program, it'd be 2782 and this person saved $617. 215 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:45,220 So there's going to be a lot of variance in the amount of money that individuals save. 216 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,820 And unfortunately, based on the questions that we're getting, there's a lot of confusion 217 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,580 about what their tax bill is going to look like. 218 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,080 A lot of them believe it is going to be exactly the same 219 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,340 as it was in 2024 or their base year 220 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,600 because they don't understand that there are, 221 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:05,480 in this case, two taxes, but any debt obligation 222 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,820 or the state tax are not eligible for this 223 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:10,700 because they're constitutionally protected 224 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:12,160 and this is a statute. 225 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:15,020 So that's going to be really important for staff 226 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:16,440 to get the word out on that 227 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,040 and try and help people understand 228 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,980 and it's not going to be exactly the same in all likelihood. 229 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:24,200 How are we going to do that? 230 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,200 Any way that we can. 231 00:19:26,940 --> 00:19:29,000 We're going to try and get a hold of all of the news, 232 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,040 the radio, social media. 233 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:33,800 We're going to shout it. 234 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,140 I think we're going to give Commissioner Lawson the megaphone. 235 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,680 We are going to various meetings throughout the community 236 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,680 and we are going to send flyers to various churches 237 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,860 organizations throughout the county if we can find an email, we'll send them a 238 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:57,420 flyer. Post these things that lodges like an Elk's Lodge or VAW or VAVW Lodge. 239 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:02,860 Credit unions, teacher credit unions, law enforcement or public service credit 240 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:06,960 unions, anywhere that we feel that it might reach persons who would be 241 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,540 interested in this program. 242 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:15,320 Here's a list for those at home to see where we're 243 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,200 going to be for public presentations. This is just the list that we have at this point 244 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,040 in time. If anybody reaches out to us and wants a presentation, we are going to do our 245 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,560 best to accommodate that and go out and get, again, get the word out and hopefully with 246 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,800 your assistance. And any one that would like to join us and help us do that, we'd appreciate 247 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:42,200 it. In addition, we're going to be taking applications on site. We have chosen the senior 248 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:49,300 center because it is January, February and March in Missouri and we don't know what 249 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:50,440 the weather is going to be in. 250 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Our belief was that a senior center would be best equipped to handle anyone that might 251 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,780 have challenges getting in and out of a building or around during that time of the year. 252 00:21:04,660 --> 00:21:11,260 This is the flyer each of you should have had one at your seat and this is what we are 253 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:15,340 still working on, there are some minor tweaks that we need to do to it, this is the front. 254 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:21,440 And then as you open it up, the information is on the inside of the eligibility, what 255 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,240 documents you might need to apply, where you need to apply, and then directly cross from 256 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,820 that, the application sites, and that's where how it folds in. 257 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:37,420 If you open it up, then you've got the frequently asked questions, and then a list of presentation 258 00:21:37,420 --> 00:21:44,060 session or informational sessions that will are listed there for anybody to attend that 259 00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:44,940 would like to. 260 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,840 And then the QR code on the back. 261 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:54,540 This is our family of flyers. 262 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,960 They're kind of jumbled up there together but you have an example in front of you. 263 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:05,300 The first one is the little flyer that we hope to put in the tax bills and send out to every 264 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,080 household so that we're trying to reach absolutely everybody. 265 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,900 Then, you have that one sheet that has the information on the public presentation sessions 266 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,540 and the application dates. 267 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:18,620 That's something that could be put on a bulletin board. 268 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 You don't have to worry about it flipping and turning it over and that kind of thing and 269 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,520 then you have the flyer. 270 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:26,640 So those are at this current time. 271 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:35,840 Those are our flyers and we will adjust them as necessary as additional things come forward. 272 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:45,080 Thank you for the presentation. I'd like to point out that I think we as a commission 273 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:51,520 have done a good job in putting this together and particularly Commissioner Lawson who 274 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,160 led our task force to put this together, so I want to thank her particularly, but I think 275 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:03,200 all commissioners participated in this, so I think that I think we can be reasonably proud 276 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,280 of the effort we've put forward and I think we are well serving our citizens, particularly 277 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,200 our seniors, with this program. So, with that Commissioner Lawson? 278 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:18,360 Yeah, first of all, I want to say you did a hell of a job on this. This is, it answers 279 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:24,600 the questions, doesn't go into big, hairy detail, but it answers the questions. I think it 280 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,800 will put a lot of people's mind at ease. And the fact that you've already got all of these 281 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:37,080 different dates set up that's phenomenal you know we too often government does 282 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,700 something and then they never follow up on it you know it just left out there 283 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:47,100 well you should have come in or you should have done it this is wonderful I'm 284 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:58,540 highly impressed and real real pleased with the way you did this I am I think you 285 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:02,460 We were all sweating bullets and trying to get this thing set up. 286 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:10,660 I thought that our current software company said, we will be able to do this for you 287 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:14,600 for nothing, were they just bulleness or what was the deal? 288 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:20,800 That does not appear to be the case at this point, it would be 4.5 million because that's 289 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:20,980 for the premium. 290 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:28,040 Totally, so we're going to have in order to do all this and our software and everything 291 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:34,260 that's necessary for it. We're going to be looking at 4.5 mil. Commissioner that's only 292 00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:39,700 if you choose that company. We are going to explore every other avenue to be able to be a little 293 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:45,280 more cost effective. Oh good. It doesn't seem like it's it's really cost effective to to spend money 294 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:51,280 that we could be saving others. Yeah. Boy. That's I was so excited when they said oh we'll do it for 295 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:58,960 nothing. I thought, oh, we're home free. So I should have known, right? But anyway, thank you. 296 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,460 Always hope. Yeah, I will, I will come to every single one of those. I'm just tickled to death 297 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:08,960 that you're, you're doing what you're doing. I appreciate it. Really appreciate you. 298 00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:18,510 Commissioner Wagg, oops, sorry. Commissioner Wagg, there we are. I am sorry, but there we are. 299 00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:19,270 We've cleared times in charge. 300 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:20,210 I guess. 301 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:22,970 I want to add my voice to thanks. 302 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:24,770 This is a lot of great work that you've done. 303 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:29,170 And I think more work and better work 304 00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:31,010 than we've seen out of some other counties 305 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:32,130 that have this very same. 306 00:25:32,150 --> 00:25:35,130 But I'm not going to name any of those counties tonight. 307 00:25:35,790 --> 00:25:38,250 But do have a couple of questions. 308 00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:42,990 One is actually coming off of the question 309 00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:45,250 that our fellow commissioner asks. 310 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:55,990 So, I did expect there'd be some financial hit to this, but I guess my question is not 311 00:25:56,710 --> 00:26:00,210 knowing exactly where that will end up. 312 00:26:00,750 --> 00:26:08,230 Do we have some idea of a plan of financing that, whether that is one time out of next year's 313 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:14,170 budget, spreading that over years, don't know until we actually hear back what's kind of the 314 00:26:14,170 --> 00:26:20,490 thought. Good question and we don't know at this point in time. I will tell you right 315 00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:25,210 now I was I had sticker shock and probably fell out of my chair when data gave me 316 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:31,470 the 4.5 million dollar number. We had anticipated some costs associated with 317 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:36,310 but nothing and and again to be clear the current software that we use so this 318 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:41,290 isn't just changing our software so that it can you know recalculate the 319 00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:47,550 relief program it is we have to upgrade because it's an essence what we currently have is basically 320 00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:52,010 antiquated and they're wanting us off that platform yeah and yes we all know that happens with 321 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:56,890 software quite frequently but I agree I think staff is doing their due diligence reaching out to 322 00:26:56,890 --> 00:27:03,930 other counties saying what are you using and they are working on a backup plan plan B that it means if 323 00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:09,130 we don't have it set up in a new software for next year when we're preparing the tax bills that we 324 00:27:09,130 --> 00:27:13,230 We will do it manually on those that are eligible for the tax credit. 325 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:17,030 List out some filing cabinets and start filling a full of papers. 326 00:27:17,470 --> 00:27:21,730 So I don't know if along those lines it's even possible as you talk to some of these 327 00:27:21,730 --> 00:27:27,390 counties but I wonder if there's a joint RFP opportunity that maybe spreads some of those 328 00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:27,970 dollars down. 329 00:27:28,210 --> 00:27:28,330 Right. 330 00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:33,010 We may be looking at some kind of short-term financing for this or you know until we pick 331 00:27:33,490 --> 00:27:37,610 the actual software and really get down to the nuts and bolts of it and then we can look 332 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:41,610 at what are the financial options that we have to cover the cost? 333 00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:47,810 Fair enough. Then the only other question was kind of taking that debt-lovy question, 334 00:27:48,030 --> 00:27:56,290 maybe a little bit further. So Kansas City, for example, is in its seventh year of its 20-year 335 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:05,710 bond plan, geo bond plan, where it is raising every year. Does that work the same way as the 336 00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:10,590 school districts, levy example, because presentively, they'll raise it. 337 00:28:10,670 --> 00:28:12,370 There's another bond that goes out that year. 338 00:28:12,670 --> 00:28:17,170 So anything that may have been voter approved that would have allowed for 339 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:22,850 some sort of debt issuance, wherever it is, you're still going to pay for those rises. 340 00:28:23,610 --> 00:28:24,310 That's correct. 341 00:28:25,090 --> 00:28:27,110 That's our interpretation of this point, yes. 342 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:34,410 That's what I would assume or else we get, or the state gets sued, but that's their problem. 343 00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:39,190 But okay that does will all be listed out separate so you'll be able to see what 344 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:44,110 portion of that is the debt binding. Yeah and I guess I would suggest based on the 345 00:28:44,110 --> 00:28:50,150 schedule you've given and again I agree great a great schedule as you go I think 346 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:56,590 that probably makes some sense to the degree that you can individualize those sorts 347 00:28:56,590 --> 00:29:01,610 of things to whatever community that you're in. So if you're in Kansas City you've 348 00:29:01,610 --> 00:29:03,390 You've got to deal with this, but if you're in liberty, 349 00:29:03,670 --> 00:29:04,510 you're going to deal with this. 350 00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:10,230 I think that may be a little bit of extra handholding, 351 00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:12,490 but I think it's probably worth doing, 352 00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:15,330 so that people understand to your point 353 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:18,650 that things just don't freeze and you don't have to worry 354 00:29:18,650 --> 00:29:22,170 about them again and life goes on and those obligations 355 00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:23,470 go on, so anyway. 356 00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:25,070 Wonderful, wonderful job. 357 00:29:25,210 --> 00:29:25,850 Thank you very much. 358 00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:27,370 Thank you, Mr. Carpenter. 359 00:29:27,370 --> 00:29:28,310 Mr. Carpenter. 360 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:30,130 Thanks, yeah. 361 00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:30,970 No questions. 362 00:29:31,210 --> 00:29:32,510 Just wanted to say thanks as well. 363 00:29:32,790 --> 00:29:35,070 I'm not just for today, but in the pamphlets great. 364 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:37,370 But going all the way back to the beginning of this process, 365 00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:41,030 you know, there's been a lot of complexities and ambiguities 366 00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:46,410 for the beginning, and just one express my gratitude to you 367 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:50,990 for helping us navigate all of those over the last year. 368 00:29:51,550 --> 00:29:53,810 And I know there are more ahead with the implementation 369 00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:56,170 and all the logistical pieces of that. 370 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:59,010 So thank you for all your work on it. 371 00:29:59,130 --> 00:29:59,970 I know it's been a couple of minutes. 372 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:20,980 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Withington. Yeah, I just want to say thank you also and I'll help share this on social media and everything and just want to say thank you for your leadership on this Joanne. If it wasn't for you, we had some commissioners who wanted us to sign a letter of intent. So for you, we wouldn't have got this done. So appreciate your leadership. 373 00:30:23,420 --> 00:30:31,320 And I would like to say that this is this is not my product. This is the product of your staff. This is the product of the clerk and the clerk. 374 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,420 Collector and assessor and the media team is definitely a team effort. 375 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:41,720 This would never have come together without the team that you have before you both here 376 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,560 and at home. 377 00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:46,240 I did have a couple other questions, if you don't mind. 378 00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:52,900 One of them is if someone improves their property substantially, then that will trigger another 379 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:53,460 event. 380 00:30:54,540 --> 00:31:00,200 Would that in any increase, would that be based on the increment of what the improvement 381 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 it was and not the overall value of the property or how would that work. 382 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Law indicates it would be based on the incremental improvement and that would be added to the base 383 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,300 year. 384 00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:12,940 However, there are some logistics on trying to figure out how that would happen. 385 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,560 It seemed like kind of a complicated question. 386 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:20,940 I know that the spirit of it obviously tells us where I believe we need to go, but then 387 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:24,780 putting that into practical effect is a little more tricky. 388 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,180 So, one of the things working with the assessor and the team that did it, I think, is 389 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:35,800 mentioned is, you know, the statute really didn't define what construction. And so we believe 390 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,760 the intent is if somebody does something to their property because they have to put up a ramp 391 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,800 or making it accessible and are doing some new construction from that perspective, you 392 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,820 know, we believe that that shouldn't adjust, right, the value. However, we're kicking around 393 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:58,260 the idea that if the addition, the new construction is 100 square feet or greater added on to the 394 00:31:58,260 --> 00:32:03,900 home, then that would be our threshold that you would have to basically add on a word. 395 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Now, we're still working through the logistics on that and what that looks like. 396 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:08,860 Okay. 397 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:16,260 I agree totally about the, any improvements that increase mobility because of, you know, 398 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,960 inability to actually access it's sort of American with disabilities kinds of issues. 399 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:24,640 The other we talked about the cost of the software. 400 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,740 where do we have any kind of a handle on what the ongoing cost would be clearly they 401 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:37,280 would be much less and we are you are going to be exploring other options but do we have 402 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,220 any just sort of general idea of what the annual maintenance of that software might also 403 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:42,700 include. 404 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:47,520 I mean, I guess I realize that it's going to go back out for a review and you don't necessarily 405 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,660 have that information but assume there will be some additional cost that we need to be 406 00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:52,260 aware of. 407 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:59,460 They did indicate in their email that they would keep the maintenance cost at $195,000 for the first five years. 408 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,600 I don't know if there were additional costs that would be associated with that on a yearly basis. 409 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:09,940 And we, you know, again, doing cost-benefit analysis, I'm sure we paid maintenance now for the existing software. 410 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,180 So really, what's the delta of the increase on the annual cost versus what we've been playing? 411 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,400 And we'll bring all that to you once we have a final recommendation. 412 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,700 So you have a full financial picture of what this is going to look like. 413 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:27,640 And I assume that would be the case. I just wanted to bring it up so that we would all have it have an awareness of that. 414 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320 Are there any more questions or comments on this issue? 415 00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:39,460 Seeing none. That would conclude where we at there we are. I would include this part of the discussion. 416 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:47,300 So that moves us on to the onters, excuse me on the reports. Auditor's cash basis administrator. 417 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:53,560 Yes, included in your agenda packet is the auditor's cash basis monthly report as a 418 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,020 band of July. So certainly if you have any questions about that information please reach 419 00:33:58,020 --> 00:33:59,000 out to the auditor. 420 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:06,690 Okay. That brings us to County Administrator 421 00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:13,510 comments administrator. Just a couple items. First of all and the county is taking applications 422 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:18,390 is online, you can go to the county's website at www.claycountymod.gov. 423 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:23,770 We are opening up for registration for the next citizen academy that will be kicking 424 00:34:23,770 --> 00:34:27,850 off this fall and so I encourage any citizen that is interested in participating. 425 00:34:28,050 --> 00:34:29,950 Please go to our website and fill out the application. 426 00:34:30,670 --> 00:34:32,750 The county is also taking applications. 427 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:38,630 We have vacancies on two boards, the tourism board and also the domestic violence board. 428 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:42,570 And so if anyone is listening and is interested, there's information on our website about 429 00:34:42,570 --> 00:34:47,890 those boards and if they would like to be considered for that, you know, please go and fill out the application. 430 00:34:48,730 --> 00:34:53,790 And then finally, I know Commissioner Nalti is looking for a commissioner that might be 431 00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:59,770 interested in starting on the EDC's Midwest Small Business Board and so if you are interested in 432 00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:05,390 filling that position on the EDC board, please let Commissioner Nalti know. And finally, 433 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:10,030 the commission's next meeting is next Thursday, August the 15th, the 6 o'clock here in the chambers. 434 00:35:11,330 --> 00:35:15,030 Thank you. That brings us to Commissioner Comments. 435 00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:17,470 Commissioner Woodington, we'll start with you if you don't mind. 436 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:19,670 Very well. Commissioner Lawson. 437 00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:23,990 We'll hold on a sec. Let me get back there. 438 00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:26,150 There we are. 439 00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:27,610 I had to say something. 440 00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:31,290 You know, no, I do want to have a shout out. 441 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:34,550 Karney has just named a new police chief. 442 00:35:35,330 --> 00:35:40,510 His name is Mark Thomas and Mark has been kind of filling in since March. 443 00:35:40,510 --> 00:35:46,770 But they have gone ahead and I think Mayor Pope put force that name and the 444 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:51,990 alderman agreed with that and he's a gentleman with a lot of experience and 445 00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:56,090 I think he's going to do great for Carney. I remember when we first moved to 446 00:35:56,090 --> 00:36:03,850 Carney there was one policeman and it was officer Frank and man you didn't 447 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:09,750 mess with him. The kids were scared to death of him. He was a big man and he just 448 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:15,930 didn't put up with anything but he kept that place just in line. The kids were 449 00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:22,810 good, the town was safe and so now looking at it as grown and all the officers 450 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:27,590 they have, I you know I really commend this gentleman for taking the job on 451 00:36:27,590 --> 00:36:32,410 because it's not a small job anymore but just wanted to give him a pad on the 452 00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:36,670 back for getting the job and keeping carny safe we hope. 453 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Commissioner Wagner. Just very quickly thanks to those that exercised their 454 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,840 right to vote earlier this week not everybody does it and not everybody around 455 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,860 the world gets the opportunity so thanks to those who do that for those who 456 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:59,960 prevailed congratulations for those that did not that's okay better luck next 457 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,600 time. Thank you. 458 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,460 Mr. Johnson, Commissioner Thompson, Commissioner Carpenter. 459 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,220 Well, I just want to jump on actually Commissioner Lawson's comments from last week about the Olympics. 460 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,560 I've been enjoying watching the Olympics. 461 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,560 Everybody has, I ran track and high school and USA track and field is having a banner. 462 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,140 You're maybe the best in the history of the country, so go USA. 463 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,460 And in fact, you all probably saw. 464 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,680 We had a local guy, Quincy Hall, from right down south, I think. 465 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:39,040 one gold in the 400 and I used to run the 400 not as fast as Quincy, but anyway it's been 466 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,420 great week for America, great couple of weeks and going to keep watching, celebrate it. 467 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:44,060 Thanks. 468 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:50,920 I just have a couple of things, one is I do encourage commissioners to, as we have our boards 469 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,440 and commission vacancies come up and they are posted, I do welcome your recommendations and 470 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:03,860 And if you have someone that you've encouraged to put forth their nomination, please let me 471 00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:04,080 know. 472 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,720 So I can make sure that I pull up those, I will be getting those applications obviously. 473 00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:15,120 But if there's someone that you are interested in, I certainly welcome the input of commissioners 474 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,820 when it comes to making those nominations. 475 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,820 So please feel free to reach out to me in that case. 476 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,720 I also want to echo what Commissioner Wagner said. 477 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,600 that is, thank you for those who participated in our Democratic Republic, that is something 478 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:35,260 that Commissioner Wagner rightly pointed out. It is not a universal, it is not universally 479 00:38:35,260 --> 00:38:40,780 recognized as something that everybody on this planet can do. It just I think underscores 480 00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:48,140 what an incredibly special country we have. And if you don't participate, I hope that you 481 00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:51,220 we will consider participating in the next election, 482 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,540 be an informed voter and perform your civic duty 483 00:38:55,540 --> 00:39:01,420 because if we don't, I think we are the worst forward. 484 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:03,940 I think I remember a quote that those who don't vote 485 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:08,320 are destined to be ruled by those who do. 486 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,440 And so please make sure that your voice is heard. 487 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:15,120 With that, we are adjourned. 488 00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:15,520 Thank you.