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Senate, I will call the meeting to order. If we could take the roll, that would be great.

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Thank you, Mayor Council Member Diaz. Yes, President. Council Member Tillman here. Council Member Tupiano. I'm here. Vice Mayor Nia, Mayor Wong. I am here.

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And for the record, all council members are present and we do have a quorum.

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Thank you. Next up is the pledge of allegiance.

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Thank you.

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First up on the agenda is public comment on non agenda items.

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If anyone has a comment on something not on the agenda, now is your time.

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I do have one speaker card, Mr. Flores.

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There's a button on the mic if you press it,

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it'll turn the red light on and you're good to go.

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Thank you.

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Hello, council members. May your vice mayor,

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my name is Gabriel Flores.

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I've been a Clayton resident for five and a half years.

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Recently, I was researching a very specific topic

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using the Clayton City website and other public resources.

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And unfortunately, throughout my hours and days of research,

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I came to the conclusion that the city is suffering from a transparency issue.

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Furthermore, based on my experience, I would say that the city has, in fact, become less

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transparent, specifically when the last few years, older city council meeting minutes were

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more detailed than better transcribed, in my opinion.

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I think it's reasonable that the people of Clayton understand why the representatives vote

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the way they do.

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The current form, a governmental communication does not allow for this kind of transparency.

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I was forced to watch hours long videos in order to hear the thoughts of my representatives.

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It was nearly impossible for me to find when an initiative passed or when it was implemented,

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often I relied on luck or just picking through a video or agenda at random and hoping that I was close.

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Now I believe that we pay for a service to manage the city website,

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I think, on the website where the previous meetings are available to watch,

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there is a search function that does not work.

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just getting it to work would go far and increasing the availability of public information.

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As it stands, having previous meetings available without providing a means to search through them,

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in an effective way is almost useless to the average Clinton resident.

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Generally, and for my own mental well-being, I choose to defer to Hamlin,

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and his razor when it comes to these sort of things.

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But if someone were actively trying to mighty governmental processes,

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well, technically abiding by transparency regulations,

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our website would be a fairly good example of how one might do that.

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I think it's reasonable to say that with today's technology those who are charged with government governance should meet the people where they are and provide as many means for communication as possible.

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I do not only speak for myself when I say that it is absolutely critical for an engaged community to be able to understand what is happening as questions and expect answers.

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Again, I reached out to the City Council for their opinions about a specific topic through email.

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There's resulted in one informative phone call, one forwarded email to the police chief,

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one insult, one non-answer, and one no response.

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I think the council can and should do better.

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I think the city can do better.

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It's what the people of Clayton deserve.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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There are anyone else with public comment on non-agenda items?

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with that I will close public comment and move on to our next item.

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I'm going to change the order a little bit. Next would be the consent counter.

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But we do have a few guests here to receive a proclamation.

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So I hope you don't mind if I do the proclamation first and move it in the order.

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So I'm going to pass item four right now and move forward to item five A.

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This is the presentation of a proclamation recognizing March 2026, I know it's April, but we skipped our last meeting in March, so we deferred it just a bit, as American red cross month. So it is in a rears.

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I have a proclamation to read for you, and then I think we have one to give you. If that's okay.

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All right, see if I could write read.

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So whereas March is American Red Cross Month when we recognize the compassion of people in the

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city of clean and renew our commitment to lend a helping hand to our neighbors in need.

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And whereas American Red Cross volunteers have set up to deliver relief and care across the

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country and around the world, bringing out the best of humanity in the times of crisis,

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as Claire Barton founder of the American Red Cross did over 140 years ago.

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And whereas the volunteers, blood and platelet donors, and supporters shine a beacon of hope

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and people's

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Mark is ours, delivering shelter, food and comfort during disasters, providing critical blood donations for hospital patients, supporting service members, veterans and their families, saving lives with first aid, CPR, AED and other skills, or delivering international aid and reconnecting level on separated by global crises.

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And we're as with 1,140 volunteers in Contrucost County, the American Red Cross assisted or

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responded to 101 disasters assisting 190 families, and through our Soundy alarm program, the American

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Red Cross installed 770 smoke alarms, making 241 homes safer, and trained 425 students through

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youth preparedness programs.

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Whereas Contra Costa County residents donated 18,299 units of

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life-saving blood, hosted 530 blood drives, and trained 12,164

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citizens in First Aid, CPR, AED, and Aquatics.

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And provided 463 case services to military members and their families

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and provided humanitarian aid internationally.

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And whereas this worked uplift our community is made possible by those who selflessly answer

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the call to help whenever and wherever it is needed. We hereby recognize this month

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of March in honor of their remarkable service and we ask everyone to join in their commitment

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to care for one another. Now therefore I, Jacqueline, on behalf of the Clayton City Council,

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do hereby proclaim March 2026 as Red Cross Month and I encourage all citizens of Clayton

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to reach out and support its humanitarian mission.

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In witness, I have, well, that there's a one this thing, sure.

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proclamations over here, did you want to say a few words?

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All right, well, first off, Mayor Juan and Council members,

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thank you for having us today.

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And I recognize that we are no longer in March,

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but nevertheless important.

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And I am Justin Miller, I'm your regional CEO

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for the Northern California Coastal region of the Red Cross.

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I oversee 15 counties in Northern California, but Contra Costa County is one that holds a very near end to your place to me, and specifically Clayton, because I'm also resident here in Clayton.

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So, again, thank you.

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You know, I don't have a speech prepared, but we often tell folks, the number one reason people don't support us is they weren't asked.

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And so, just with your help, continuing to make that ask, for folks to donate their time, their talent and their treasure,

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whether it's rolling up a sleeve to donate blood,

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whether it's making a generous financial contribution,

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whether it's helping us get prepared.

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These are the things that matter and are going to set us up.

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So when that next big thing happens we're able to respond

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and we're able to really take care of our communities.

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So really, again, thank you.

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I appreciate your support and look forward to just

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engaging even more in this wonderful community.

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Thank you.

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We know that.

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When you're my guy, you're actually have no product.

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I was using tax.

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Three words about this.

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I'm making a stick together.

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I don't think I'm doing it.

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I don't think I'm doing it.

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was it?

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Thank you very much.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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All right, that was item 5A.

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And I see that Shifu Shart has joined.

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Thank you, you made it a perfect timing.

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Yes, that is serendipitous.

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So our next item is item 5B.

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And this is a presentation of a proclamation honoring

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Constra Costa County Fire Protection District Chief Louis Prashar for his service leadership and dedication to the community upon his retirement.

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They let you retire?

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So, wait.

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What the impact in it here?

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It's hard for five days.

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So should we hold off on the proclamation?

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This is consulting services, perhaps?

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Okay, so we have a proclamation for you in recognition of your retirement. I'm going to read it at you.

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All right, so we're as fire chief Louis Bershard has dedicated more than 18 years of exemplary service to the country cost of county fire protection district,

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demonstrating unwavering commitment to public safety, leadership, and the well-being of the residents of country cost of the county.

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And we're as chief Bershard has served with distinction, earning the respect and trust of the community, the board of supervisors, the county administrative and administrators office, and the men and women of the fire district.

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And whereas during his tenure as fire chief, the district experienced significant organizational

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and operational advancements, including the annexation of the East Country-Constrict

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Fire Protection District, and the Rodeo Hercules Fire Protection District, established a contract

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for service with the city of Penal, and providing leadership to reinstate fire station 11 in the

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city of Claim. And whereas Chief Brushar, championed critical initiatives to strengthen emergency

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response capabilities, including the establishment of a fire fighting hand crew program,

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the launch of a seasonal aerial firefighting helicopter program, the implementation of

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an apparatus replacement program, and increasing staffing in both operations and fire prevention.

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And we're going to seek for Shard, championed critical initiatives to strengthen emergency response

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capabilities. Wait, no, I did that already. Hold on. We're going to under his leadership,

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The district undertook the rebuilding of fire stations expanded and modernized the regional fire dispatch center, increased 9-11 dispatcher staffing, strengthened and expanded ambulance services, and introduced numerous health and wellness initiatives for personnel.

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And we have chief for Shard played a vital role in advancing wildfire preparedness and resilience

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through significant mitigation projects and the formation of more than 40 fire-wives communities.

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And we're as the district achieved a substantial improvement in its insurance services office rating, the ISO rating,

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reaching a uniform class, two to why rating.

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All right, reflecting enhanced service quality and protection for residents, and whereas chief

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Rashard has led with integrity and professionalism through complex operational challenges,

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historic wildfire seasons, and a period of remarkable growth, always prioritizing the safety

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of both residents and fire personnel.

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Whereas his retirement on March 30, 2026, really, right, marks the conclusion of a distinguished

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career in the beginning of a well-deserved new chapter.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that the CDU claim here by honors and recognizes fire chief

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Louis Bershardt for his outstanding service leadership and dedication to the community and

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be it further proclaimed that we extend our deepest gratitude and appreciation to Chief Bershardt

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and congratulate him on his retirement, wishing him continued health happiness and fulfillment

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in the years ahead.

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We also have a proclamation.

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Would you like to say a few words about your retirement?

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Okay, it's on.

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Mayor Juan, members of the City Council staff, thank you very much.

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I appreciate all the accolades as you know.

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I didn't do most of that.

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We have an amazing team at Con Fire that is very motivated and passionate about the profession

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that they're in and protecting the public and serving

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in the manner that they do.

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And so every once in a while I would just sort of light a spark,

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but they would take it from there if you know what I mean.

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So I'm humbled by your words and know that they mean the world to me

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because they represent what Confire has become.

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And I think what Confire will continue to be in the future.

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And a huge part of our success as a fire protection district

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is the relationships that we have both internally, labor, management, with our members, with

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our elected body, the county administrators office, but also with the cities that we serve.

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As you know, it's a unique relationship to have a special district be part of your primary

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emergency services delivery system and that's not necessarily completely unique, but it's

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Also, not always the same throughout the state, city departments versus fire protection districts.

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And the relationship that we have with the city of Clayton, I think has helped us get to a point where we've had a lot of success in protecting the public, not just in...

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One Clayton, but throughout Contra Costa County, and our jurisdiction, it used to be that Clayton was sort

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of the end of the tracks for Confire, and you were at the end of our network. And now you're kind

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of in the middle of our network with the annexation of East Contra Costa Fire. So it sometimes

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is easier for me knowing that boundaries are even less important now through the annexations.

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and that we can focus on providing service and being as efficient as we can.

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So I appreciate all the support that you've given me throughout the years.

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It means the world to us, to host for you to host the annual firefighter memorial on September 11th

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in Clayton at Fire Station 11.

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It's not lost on me that this coming September 11th is going to be the 25th anniversary of September 11th.

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and we're looking forward to having a very meaningful memorial

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again this year in Clayton.

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So I appreciate everything that you've done for us.

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And as I said, that relationship and that partnership

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and I know that that will continue, regardless of whoever

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takes my spot permanently at the end of my four to six week role

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here as a retired to do it to it.

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So again, thank you.

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I really appreciate it and wish you and Clayton and Confire

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all the best in the years to come.

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I know it'll be successful.

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Thank you.

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I just want to say, when I first moved to where I live,

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there was a significant fire, just a couple,

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like a month or two after I moved in.

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And we were worried because we were like on the edge.

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But the helicopters that came and dropped,

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dropped the barrels into the lake right near the house

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I'm just kept flying, doing circles out there.

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It was amazing to watch.

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And if I could really quick, just a couple of points, we have a new helicopter coming

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in on May 1st, and by new, I mean, actually ran new coming in.

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So that'll be from May 1st through October 31st, it's still deployed out of Byron at the

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present moment.

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But it's a little bit faster and it carries a little bit more water than what we had over the last two years, and it's new.

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So it'll be much more mechanically reliable.

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Coming up in May and you'll receive, you know, it should be in June, our new communication center will be done.

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It's almost done and we keep having delays because of AT&T or PG&E and other issues that have moved the construction project back

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two weeks at a time, if you will.

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So, in June, you will have a state of the art,

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18, $20 million communication center that's servicing

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the predominance of Contra Costa County.

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So, there'll be a bit of a ribbon cutting ceremony

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and would invite you to attend that and see the inside

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of this new center that dispatches all of your ambulances

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and fire apparatus throughout most of Contra Costa County.

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Excellent.

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All right.

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We have a proclamation for

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you.

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So I look forward to thank you very much, Jim, I'll take that to you, let's take it to you.

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Thank you.

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All

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right,

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that concludes item five, a, and five, b.

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I will return us back to our regular schedule agenda on the consent calendar, which is item four.

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Does anyone have anything that they would like to pull from the consent calendar?

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Any way item 4,

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c, and 4,

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e, e is an echo, e is an echo, all right. Let me ask everyone.

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Yeah.

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I don't have D enough.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So the consensus counter is getting smaller.

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All right.

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Does anyone have anything to pull for A or B?

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Okay.

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So let's take them in order.

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Item C.

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So.

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Comments.

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Number D is.

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Yeah.

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The only thing that I'm interested in that that has always been an item where we've got

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a number of people from the residential community up there.

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Do we have any input from them?

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Mayor Kousman, we did not have any input from them or comments from them at all.

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But they were notified appropriately.

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This is correct.

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Yep.

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No news is good news.

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All right.

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Anyone else have anything for item C?

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Nope.

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Okay, cool.

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This is one small thing.

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First of all.

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Yep.

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That I let the clerk know and that was just the very bottom the type of the footnote has a

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Oh, it's got the O3 resolution number instead of O4, so she's going to fix that.

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Okay. Great.

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No other items for C, okay.

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Item D del 2 or.

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I have D. I didn't know if Jim was going because I think he's got E.

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So I had a really good conversation with our city manager today.

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because I was just questioning why we were doing another fee-study schedule of a fee-study

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after we just did one in 2003.

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And what's that?

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23.

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What did I say?

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Yeah.

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2023.

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Sorry.

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Thank you.

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And Chris, do you mind just explaining kind of what we talked about like why we're doing this again three years later?

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So there's a couple of reasons.

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Some of the fees in our estimation when I say

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our the three of us have talked about.

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Some of the fees that there's duplication.

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There's a couple of fees that don't have a nexus associated with them.

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It's just a fee without a reason behind the fee.

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So that's part one.

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Part two is we need to clean up our planning and development fee.

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schedule. There are some issues and struggles with what we currently have and we want to make sure that we are.

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We have the appropriate fees associated with the work that we are doing.

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And the third part of this is we have several new fees that we need to implement and rather than us.

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I guess at what those fees should be, we really want to make sure that we bring somebody

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into evaluate those fees, make sure that we are legal, they're appropriate before we

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go through the whole implementation process.

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The other part of this work that NBS will be doing is a cost allocation plan, and essentially

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what that will do will look at our entire operation, and make sure that we are accounting for

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supplies labor time in the correct areas.

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So, for example, if you have a maintenance worker who's doing work in various locations,

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who want to make sure work counting for that.

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And we do that internally controlled right now.

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But what we also need to do is the people who supervise them.

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The public works director, part of my time,

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could be part of Dennis' time, part of Jennifer's time is the accountant

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who's managing those finances, that we are counting for their time and the cost associated

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with each one of those districts so that it's not just hitting the general fund,

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but that is allocated correctly and legally so that the LMD is paying their share, the growth

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park, a district is paying their share and that it has been vetted and it's not a swag by staff

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so that it's legal and we can represent that which in our estimation should free up general

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fund money because we will have more allocation to those numerous other special funds that

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we have.

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Thank you.

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And do we anticipate it's as extending the contract to September 30th that it will take

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that long as that arrest.

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So, currently, they're working on the fixed schedule now. They've already begun that work. Then they're going to go back and do the cap, the cost allocation plans, sorry. And there may be some other fine tuning of the fees after they complete that cost allocation plan work. So, in some sense, we did it a little bit backwards, but we also knew that we wanted to get some of these new fees implemented as well.

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as making sure that we're getting rid of the duplication and confusion associated with some

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of the other ones that Chris mentioned.

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And then, Bill Kriss, then it to us will.

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Correct.

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Let's say.

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Left to adopt the entire fee schedule and I'll, all the shenanigans.

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Thank you.

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I have a follow-up question based off of the information that we just heard.

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For the LMD portion of that, since that is going on the ballot this year, how much do

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to participate in this is talking about the staff, the allocation piece of it, do we need

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to increase the LMD,

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the amount that each homeowner needs to pay for the LMD, but we have

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to increase that to cover that. That's what I'm getting at, and how does that timing work?

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The short answer is that we would not change the assessment, that's the A word that I was looking

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for thank you. The assessment for the LSD based on either the fee study or the allocation plan.

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And so I think that becomes becomes really key. It's really a separate piece from that.

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But what it does do, Council Member Tillman, as it does, take what that assessment is into account

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in terms of the cost of staff that are being appropriated to it, so that at the end of the day,

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We actually have a, it's, think of it as one pie, and you're just slicing the pie based on

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what the actual work is.

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And that's, that's the work that they do, the analysis they do in the background on the

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cost allocation plan.

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So it's, it really is just taking that pie, whatever size pie that is for the LMD, for example,

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that, that'll just, that piece of the pie will be, I've taken it allocated fairly to appropriately

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as compared to all the other elements as well.

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Okay, I'll take that for now, but I'm going to dig when we get into later in Agenda.

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There's something that doesn't comport with how I'm thinking about this, but I do have a couple of questions on this.

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So just to clarify, we are originally signed an agreement with NBS for 18,000 to do the cap, right?

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We just want to make sure I'm reading the report correctly.

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So, yeah, I mean, that's, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay, cool.

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And so the additional 42 that we're asking for now

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is for the fee study.

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Okay,

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and we put that first and order,

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even though it had not been assigned originally.

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So, are we already doing work on the fee study now?

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There has been some data collected from staff to them,

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But we're awaiting this contract amendment in order to actually begin that work formally.

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So I guess 18,000 for a cap seems high.

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And I'm not really sure what the going rate is, but an accountant can do a cap pretty

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easy, a time study with the staff is pretty sure for it.

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But that's fine.

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I mean, if we want to do it, that's okay.

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But the 40, and additional 42, especially given some of the materials that we're talking about later in the meeting,

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what is the benefit for us in terms of overall dollars on the fee study portion in particular?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I remember the last time that we did the study, there's a lot of discussion around it,

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and we tried to structure it so that we wouldn't have to do a new study very frequently,

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So we put risers on the items so that we didn't have to go back and pay consultants to do a study for us again.

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Now, I think that we should reset that periodically, but it just seems soon, especially given some of our other constraints.

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So is the 42,000 worth it right now?

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And I'll defer also to either Chris or to our city attorney.

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There were some problems in that existing feast study beyond what's missing,

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but the next piece that Chris mentioned earlier,

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the separation under Prop 218 between a fee and a tax is...

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Really an important component to this. And there was enough ambiguity in a number of those fees that were established in three years ago, that we were at some risk of somebody challenging those fees and in fact the entire fee schedule, based on some of those, some of that lack of nexus for it to be a fee.

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When you add to that the duplication that existed in the existing fee study, that added a

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additional layer where we were perhaps double dipping on some fees, and that's what really

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called our attention and highlighted the need to make that change, the potential for double dipping,

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which would have been then one of those being more or less treated as attacks. So I think we wanted

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to be prudent in this so that we're not found liable somehow, some point in the path in the future

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for perhaps double dipping on our fees.

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And I think that becomes an important consideration.

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The last piece of that is, with the new fees we were looking at,

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I think there were enough of a need for good strong data analysis

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to be able to give us those based on the actual cost

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and having them do the analysis.

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And the last piece I'll say is, if you compare our fees,

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schedule as it's currently constructed, compared to what other cities have, it's very confusing.

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It's not well-formatted. And part of that work that they're going to be doing is helping

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compare the structure and the organizational structure of the fee schedule so that it becomes

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a much more useful document compared to other, and it'd be more comparable to other cities.

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Not in terms of the fees themselves, but just the structure of the schedule.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I just, it's hard to get a handle on the number. It seems, especially given some

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of the situation, but I mean, what I accept the way you're saying is important. This is the

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question of prioritizing the order. Okay. Anyone else have any comment on item D?

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I just have another question, please. Under the fiscal impact, it reads the cost of the fee study will

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built into future permit and rental fees, can you, can you explain that?

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So it's a cost of doing business and as such it could be factored into the actual fee schedule

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itself. It's similar to how we can also pass on the charges for certain proprietary

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software that people need for let's say building permits. If we were to have a, as we'll

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talk about later on, some kind of permit tracking system, the cost of that system is another

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cost of doing business, as directly related to their permit activity, and you could pass

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it along, fee studies the same way, it could be passed along.

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Isn't this, are we, are we treating this as one time in nature,

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that that's a policy decision

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by the council ultimately, because we're building essentially for future payments,

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you are

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assuming a certain level of cost in the future for future fee studies on some schedule, right?

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That's the only way that you could build it in.

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So, the cadence I'm used to with fee studies and other jurisdictions I've worked in is three to five years.

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As a pretty standard cadence for these, is that the assumption here?

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That would be the assumption I would have had in making that a sign.

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And we do need to look at it more frequently than we have in the past, people are challenging fees more frequently.

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And I would recommend the time frame that Dennis just mentioned as well.

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Something we'll want to keep updating.

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Okay, maybe I mean, maybe when this comes back, as a matter of policy, we also include the schedule so that it's clear what our intention is.

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Okay. Any other comment on item D?

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Okay. Item E, Jim, you had, uh, that's about the cue.

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This is an area that I've always been, uh,

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for Plex by, uh, particularly as it relates to the, uh,

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Stormwater Pollution Prevention System.

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And I just like a little more elaboration on it, and, uh,

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clarification, because I, it gets tossed, it gets tossed around so, uh,

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frequently and everybody gets that look on their face like what is it what are we talking

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about?

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So all of the water that runs off of our hills and streets ends up in the back.

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At some point, traveling through a variety of pieces of conduit and streams and creeks, as it enters the bay.

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Many, many years ago, the Bay Area decided all the governments, full cities and counties, would join together to come up with under the Clean Water Act, would come up with a set of standards and for cities and counties to follow.

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in terms of managing their own potential pollution

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and discharges into the bay and into the Pacific Ocean.

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That system and the agreement that we have

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with the federal government under the Clean Water Act

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is this NPDES thing national pollution discharge, something.

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And so that's the agreement.

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The Project Clean Water for Contracost the County

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is who we directly relate to.

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And so that's the jurisdictional body that, for example,

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now I'm going to, which is really weird.

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But I'm going to these meetings on Project Clean Water.

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And really what they're trying to do is do the best they can

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with the resources they have.

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The $29 assessment, which is the, it's a capped assessment

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for each house unit, is the max that they can get.

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They've tried valid initiatives and other things in the past to try to increase that amount,

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but they just utilize those resources as much as they can as well as then seeking grants

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to develop policies to address new and existing pollution sources that are around.

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I'll just share with you one is that there are some jurisdictions that will not affect

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Clayton, but there's a growing concern about mercury contamination in the Bay waters.

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And so in the coming year, Project Clean Water will be addressing that, and sources here, again not Clayton, not Clayton related at all, but mostly in West County that are sources of mercury pollution.

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And so there's a constant amount of policy as well as training work and whatnot that goes into this system to maintain it.

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The $29 is a rather modest fee, and it just needs to be renewed every year.

455
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:24,040
that's that's why it's in front of you today. This is a standard item we do every year.

456
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:29,740
You alluded to that. It's it's what we keep doing in order to keep even that little

457
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:33,760
bit of money flowing into the project clean water program.

458
00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:39,440
I question so so is there a net we say all cities in county so is there some sort of a network

459
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:49,340
of pipes or drainage that, okay, and it doesn't, it doesn't conflict with the other

460
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:49,940
sanitation.

461
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,680
Yeah.

462
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Good question.

463
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:59,700
Yeah, so you can go to, if you look in a manhole cover, it'll often have a stamp on

464
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:07,520
their letter S, which is sewer, yeah, and then the other one is SW, which is stormwater.

465
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,060
And so that's the distinguishing factor.

466
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,760
You can walk most streets even here in Clayton

467
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,420
and see those different manhole covers

468
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:18,220
that are go at two separate systems.

469
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:21,000
So the sanitation stuff that goes out

470
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,360
your sink and down your toilet and out the sewer,

471
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:28,700
that goes over to Central San, over at 4 and 680.

472
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,220
And all those are separate pipes from what goes into

473
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:39,980
the from your your gutter curb into the storm drains on your streets. That goes in a

474
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:47,380
separate system of pipes and streams that eventually take it into the bay. You've

475
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:52,020
clarified a lot for that and I'll be looking for those markings on the man for covers.

476
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,640
I couldn't. I quite frankly didn't understand how it, you know, the two of those things

477
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,940
Cross or did not cross.

478
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,460
They love you.

479
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,240
It was very critical.

480
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,200
They do that cross.

481
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:02,720
Yeah.

482
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:04,640
Thank you very much.

483
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,300
The old Ghostbusters don't cross the streams.

484
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Thank you.

485
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:10,750
All right.

486
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:11,470
I have a question.

487
00:39:11,470 --> 00:39:12,270
Any other questions?

488
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:12,790
Yeah.

489
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:13,030
Go ahead.

490
00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:13,510
Thank you.

491
00:39:14,850 --> 00:39:16,590
So just two quick questions.

492
00:39:16,770 --> 00:39:22,050
So when it said, and I think, Council Member Diaz kind of was asking us.

493
00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:27,350
It says establishing the E.R.U. assessment rate.

494
00:39:27,350 --> 00:39:36,230
So it has been a recurring annual, so it's not something brand new it requires an annual establishment though

495
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:40,590
That's that's why the technical language that we got you requires an annual establishment

496
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:50,490
It's a question and then does this in any way effect kind of that separate bucket where we've got a stormwater assessment district

497
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:56,150
It does not it's so it's separate

498
00:39:56,750 --> 00:39:59,030
Okay, thank you.

499
00:39:59,330 --> 00:39:59,970
Okay, so my question.

500
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:19,220
The question is, it reads in here about the documentation and reporting that you have to do? Are we? You don't have to get into the weeds on it. I just want to know, are the Clayton cleans up and the day of service where people are in the creeks and they're cleaning up on the trails, etc. Are you counting that?

501
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:25,880
So, that is not one of the reporting requirements or those kinds of events, it really is much more.

502
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:30,580
We have these trash capture devices inside the storm grains.

503
00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:37,700
And we have to constantly report not only that we've cleaned them out, but what we find when we clean them out.

504
00:40:38,620 --> 00:40:41,700
And so that's the kind of reporting that's being talked about there.

505
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,480
And so we do collect those reports.

506
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,980
We do forward those to the county.

507
00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:51,140
they are collected and aggregated across the county from each jurisdiction, but it's

508
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:56,220
that's the kind of reporting that we do this point for the city of Clayton, that's the

509
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:56,800
major effort.

510
00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,580
If it's not for this one and it's for the actual district, can you double check that?

511
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Because I know previous years when we were doing the Clayton Cleanseup and solely doing

512
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,840
that, you were able to use that reporting, I don't know which one of those it was going

513
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,200
to.

514
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,600
Okay, I'll check with it.

515
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
And if I find any historical stuff, I'll send it to you.

516
00:41:17,140 --> 00:41:17,520
All right.

517
00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:21,980
Any other questions or comments on item E,

518
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:23,840
the consent calendar?

519
00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:26,600
No, okay.

520
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,740
And no one had anything on F, right?

521
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:31,080
Oh, F.

522
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,160
I just had a quick question on F.

523
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:40,400
And so when is the next general plan

524
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,980
to do for the city of Clayton General Plan?

525
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:44,580
General Plan?

526
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,020
No, I don't think there's a requirement

527
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:46,480
to up to here.

528
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:50,040
It's an acceptance of the 2025 General Plan implementation.

529
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,780
And so is it updated every year or no?

530
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,160
No, the General Plan is not updated,

531
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,140
but there are elements of the General Plan that

532
00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:01,860
do need to be implemented.

533
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:08,420
We need to be making progress towards filling the General Plan.

534
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,420
Okay, and this one is specifically towards housing.

535
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,740
Oh, this one is just okay, because then it's an end housing element annual progress report.

536
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,460
Okay, so it's related to housing.

537
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Thank you.

538
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Yeah, this is the change that HCD requested that planning commission approve that we are now doing.

539
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,680
No, that's something else.

540
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,260
Yes, I know.

541
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,600
I asked earlier, completely different.

542
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,300
I got my HCD requirements.

543
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:41,420
This is the large spreadsheet with the microscopic lines.

544
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:43,280
There you go.

545
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,300
All right.

546
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:44,820
That's right.

547
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,060
I remember this one.

548
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:47,580
OK.

549
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,500
Any other questions on item F?

550
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:53,500
All right.

551
00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:56,180
Public comment on consent calendar.

552
00:42:57,580 --> 00:42:59,920
Seeing none, we'll close public comment.

553
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,320
Is there a motion for all of the items?

554
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:11,530
Mr. here I will move approval of the consent calendar all items I'll second it

555
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,480
If we could call the role

556
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:22,570
Council member DS yes council member Tillman I Council member Truppiano yes vice mayor Nia yes mayor one

557
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,580
Hi

558
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Yes have it and the motion passes with the vote of 50 thank you that closest item for before we move on to next item

559
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,640
I see, I just wanted to mention to Mr. Flores,

560
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,020
I think the meeting that you were looking for is on June 4th, 2019.

561
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,980
If you look at that meeting, you'll find the rationale.

562
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,400
All right. Okay. Excellent.

563
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,840
And also, can I just, I know we're not supposed to respond during public comment,

564
00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:00,080
but can we at least provide Mr. Flores an update that our whole website is being redesigned,

565
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,840
user-friendly, we've hired a company.

566
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:03,880
Can we just do that?

567
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,900
We can talk to them off one.

568
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,020
Okay, good, good, good.

569
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:11,440
Just, I know the search function is a bit small.

570
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:12,120
I agree.

571
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:12,960
Thank you.

572
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:13,860
It's still searching.

573
00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:19,840
Okay, item 5C city beautification and project update.

574
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:24,980
Staff is going to kick us off.

575
00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:29,450
Do you have it?

576
00:45:01,420 --> 00:45:04,200
I surprised you.

577
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:13,290
I'm glad you found the meeting though.

578
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:45,020
Well, let's take a two minute recess. So staff could get their things together and we could do our things. So two minutes.

579
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:48,770
Recording stopped.

580
00:45:54,020 --> 00:46:02,500
All right, we're back from our brief recess. I believe staff is going to kick us off on the city beautification and project update.

581
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,360
Thank you, Mayor.

582
00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:10,380
Before I get started, I just want to recap a couple of things or not recap it.

583
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:11,380
Point out a couple of things.

584
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,400
This is not an entire list.

585
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,860
This is partial of what we have coming up in the next few weeks.

586
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:27,040
We have a, ever expanding, growing list of maintenance issues, landscaping issues throughout the city.

587
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,880
in our districts and our parks on our trails that we are addressing currently and we will

588
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,660
be expanding that. I think the one important thing to recognize is this didn't happen

589
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:47,760
in the last three months. This has been neglected items for years and we recognize that

590
00:46:49,420 --> 00:46:57,320
And we are doing our best to correct the issues that we will talk about this evening.

591
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,720
On top of that, we are still trying to hire a public works director

592
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:09,680
to help create a system where we don't lag and fall behind in the years to come.

593
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:15,860
We want to fix this and get on a system where we are rotationally addressing these things

594
00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:19,980
throughout the city on and on. It's almost like the Golden Gate Bridge Painting. You start here,

595
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,100
get to the end, turn around, do it again. Same thing with some of these items. We need to be

596
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:31,740
looking at them annually, repairing them annually, and having a robust work plan that keeps us

597
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:41,440
on schedule so we don't fall behind. So with that kind of overview of where we are, we debate

598
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:48,600
in landscape areas, fire protection, general updates, roadway improvements and major projects

599
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,820
that we have on the horizon.

600
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:59,400
So we debate, you probably have noticed Clayton Road was hit heavily in the last couple

601
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,140
of weeks with our contract service from Clayton Station to Fire Station 11.

602
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,740
We still have Marsh Creek to Regency Hillside adjacent to the Mount Diablo Elementary.

603
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:21,080
That's on the list that these still needs to be done and peacock creek, which is a whole project on

604
00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:23,800
kind of itself that we have to address.

605
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,520
We'll talk about that.

606
00:48:25,820 --> 00:48:31,140
In the coming weeks, Oakhurst Drive, the trail edges with the flail mower to get the weeds knocked

607
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:37,180
down to give it the buffer off of those trails, open space adjacent to residents that started

608
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:37,840
this week.

609
00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:45,840
That is more fire reduction in the land that we own that back up to properties.

610
00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:49,900
So that is begun and we will continue to do that.

611
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:55,360
I'll pause for a second and say the work that we're talking about here, Dennis is working

612
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,880
with our contractors to get an order of operations and a schedule of where we're going

613
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200
so that we can put it online, sure, and on social media,

614
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,800
let people know when we're doing those that fire work,

615
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,820
when we're working on Clayton Road,

616
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:11,680
Oakhurst, whatever area we will be in.

617
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:13,860
One, we want to let people know that we're doing the work.

618
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Number two, we want them to understand that there may be traffic

619
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,660
control in those areas, so be aware that work is happening.

620
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,340
So we protect the folks that are out on the street.

621
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:26,640
And you're going to publicize that,

622
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:28,820
like on the website, the schedule.

623
00:49:28,820 --> 00:49:36,470
Well, after we get those main thoroughfares done, we'll move into the interior streets and the

624
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:40,650
medians within some of those neighborhoods and do more detail work in those areas.

625
00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:46,270
So did I hear you correctly, do we not have a schedule yet?

626
00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:57,010
We're scheduling two or three weeks at a time, mostly in response to specific issues that we're

627
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:59,970
finding at the same time, so use it.

628
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,620
Is there a master schedule? No. There is not. But what we are doing is we're putting people with the highest

629
00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:14,940
need and in the thoroughfares as we can. And so that's the goal is to work up a master schedule

630
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:24,920
as we go further into the spring and summer. How many separate contract firms are we working

631
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:35,600
on weed abatement just one and do they I mean are they able to provide

632
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,160
a work plan that they are doing we meet every other week to work out the

633
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:48,340
plan for the next two weeks and that way we have better control over where

634
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:51,900
we're doing the work yeah that makes sense on ad hoc bases but I'm thinking

635
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:56,140
we're holistically like shouldn't there be a work plan with 100% of the

636
00:50:56,140 --> 00:50:58,580
inventory and then we can see where we've knocked off.

637
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:04,240
That would be a beautiful thing there to have a general work plan that they work for us.

638
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,700
We can tell them to just do it, right?

639
00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:08,830
Do the plan?

640
00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:14,750
Yeah, like you, they know the assessment area or this or not or are we telling them on a week

641
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:15,390
by week basis?

642
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:19,250
We're telling them on a week by week basis, which assessment area is to work in.

643
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:23,930
We're also trying to be financially prudent about where we're putting them so we're

644
00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:29,150
maximizing the different revenue sources we have in order to do this work.

645
00:51:31,110 --> 00:51:34,910
And it is one firm, but we are asking them to bring us another crew.

646
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:36,810
So they have multiple crews within the firm.

647
00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:43,970
So, and if they can't provide that, we're prepared to get another firm to do other work and work and concert.

648
00:51:44,330 --> 00:51:48,190
But like we talked earlier today about continuing like a grid system.

649
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:51,890
I think the one thing we've been asking for is a council.

650
00:51:51,890 --> 00:51:59,290
I told you this earlier is just as public schedule so people know, okay, I'm not happy right now

651
00:51:59,290 --> 00:52:05,110
But somebody's coming in my neighborhood in two weeks. Yeah, I'm in good before before before gets done right

652
00:52:05,630 --> 00:52:07,230
You know third quarter

653
00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:15,810
I mean, I know it's not something that happens overnight, but as part of any of this that has to be like a work product

654
00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:20,630
Because otherwise you're always going to get the questions and they don't always be chasing

655
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:23,910
All right, so I would just make that recommendation.

656
00:52:24,570 --> 00:52:27,630
Well, and we're not prepared to do a grid right now.

657
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:29,530
That's going to be a grid, you know what I'm saying?

658
00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:33,590
And, you know, being down an important staff person

659
00:52:33,590 --> 00:52:36,350
is hindering some of our ability to do some of this.

660
00:52:36,690 --> 00:52:40,190
And that's something that the new, hopefully new public

661
00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:42,790
works director does when they get on board.

662
00:52:43,310 --> 00:52:46,050
And I can tell you we found the annual plan

663
00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:50,410
from previous leadership, that's 100% wrong.

664
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:53,950
And there are addressing things at the wrong time of year.

665
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:59,570
And so what they had been doing was not helping our operation.

666
00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:05,610
So we're trying to go back and fix and trying to move things forward at the same time.

667
00:53:07,550 --> 00:53:13,310
And I don't disagree with anything that we've said, an annual plan, there should be an annual plan,

668
00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:18,510
there should be a monthly plan, there should be a weekly plan, period, and the annual and

669
00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:24,130
the monthly should be distributed to the masses, so people know exactly what's happening.

670
00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:29,070
The weekly plan should be directed towards staff, so they know what they're doing that

671
00:53:29,070 --> 00:53:35,230
week, and we're migrating into that, but obviously it has not come to...

672
00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:36,370
Yeah, no, it makes sense.

673
00:53:36,530 --> 00:53:42,230
I think there's a lot of things that they didn't start for, they did not happen overnight,

674
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:44,430
So they won't get addressed overnight.

675
00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:50,210
However, I think my recommendation would be as part

676
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:53,730
of any good project management to treat it like a project.

677
00:53:54,210 --> 00:53:55,930
And itemize all the things that are open,

678
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:57,910
even though you may not get to them today tomorrow

679
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:59,410
or in a month or whatever.

680
00:54:00,010 --> 00:54:05,270
But as long as there's like a ongoing major item list,

681
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:11,650
and then you can report out on it saying item 41 still

682
00:54:11,650 --> 00:54:13,710
as it started, but we know that it's there.

683
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:17,930
That will help give comfort to the residents

684
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:20,990
to know that these things are in flight.

685
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:24,130
So I would recommend getting the, at least to inventory

686
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:28,670
in a publishable state,

687
00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:32,250
so that at least there is a plan for a plan.

688
00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:37,260
Okay, sorry, go ahead.

689
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:42,760
Before you go off that page, I have a quick question.

690
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Can you give an example of the interior street medians?

691
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Are you talking about those that are adjacent to the sidewalk on in neighborhoods?

692
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:52,840
Yes.

693
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,400
Okay.

694
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Those areas, and then there's certain spots like above...

695
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,920
Council on filth and law for unup that street. There is a median in the middle of that street. So there are some of those have hazard that are not being addressed on a regular basis. So that's what I'm real

696
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,220
I just want to be sure wasn't only those and that it's actually no issue of that or

697
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:23,320
Duacins to side walks, causing issues for some of the residents to have to take care of. Yes, okay. Great. Thank you

698
00:55:28,220 --> 00:55:33,920
So, per contract cost to fire protection district, we have to be completed by June 1.

699
00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:41,240
So, that's why we've started that fire, a bait weed abatement project now so that we are complete.

700
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,620
By the deadline, all city parcels will be cut back to guidelines.

701
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:56,860
One of the things that kind of made us a little unhappy is we had rain.

702
00:55:56,860 --> 00:56:05,980
We had sun, it got hot, and then it rained again, and all this stuff started growing again, and it's like, that is the worst for controlling weed abatement.

703
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:15,840
So, there are some things that we need to look at in the future, and some of the things that were on the calendar that I said were completely wrong.

704
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,740
When to put down free emergent, when to spray, when to do those things.

705
00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:27,920
And to be 1,000% frank, honest and transparent, I don't think we did much of it anyways.

706
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,980
Even though it was trying to be done at the wrong time of year.

707
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:40,500
So looking at ways to prevent weed growth, we did the test area on Clayton Road with the steaming

708
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:50,580
to see what happens next year and to see if that is an actual benefit and helps control those weeds in those areas we will see.

709
00:56:50,580 --> 00:56:53,840
So hopefully it does and we have another tool in the toolbox.

710
00:56:58,820 --> 00:57:06,240
So some general improvements, the grass replacement in Grove Park, the financing is going

711
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,980
to remain in place until our first concert.

712
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:15,140
We have some lovely young folks in our town that like to ride bicycles through that park

713
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:20,300
and skit on the grass and we'd like to keep it protected for as long as we can.

714
00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:25,160
Peacock Creek, replace irrigation in the median.

715
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,840
I think Pennsylvania, or vice mayor in the end, has a comment.

716
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:30,840
I just wanted to say about the Grove Park.

717
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,480
It's 100% better.

718
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,240
100%.

719
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,580
The trees are all trend.

720
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:43,400
You can actually see cars coming from Marsh Creek,

721
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,780
if you're trying to turn left on the Marsh Creek from Main Street.

722
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:49,780
I don't even a wife in the car anymore to tell me go.

723
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,960
No comment on that.

724
00:57:53,580 --> 00:58:02,660
Anyway, it's 100% better and you can actually see through there and it's lighter and that's an excellent proof.

725
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,400
Excellent.

726
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:04,780
Appreciate that.

727
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:06,860
The other thing.

728
00:58:07,580 --> 00:58:16,760
The other improvement in growth park is there's an area that grass will not grow and it's just dirt and it's.

729
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:22,560
The area behind the splash pad that always takes on water in turns into a mud hole all year long

730
00:58:23,420 --> 00:58:29,700
We're going to pour curvy in there so to push the water into the drain instead of creating the mud pit

731
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:35,140
And then the mud gets tracked on the concrete and the splash pad and so we're resolving those issues at the same time

732
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:38,360
And that should happen in the next month-ish

733
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:44,940
And the only thing I just want to say with the group. It does look amazing and the grass

734
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:51,420
facted an amazing job, I don't know what he did there, but some power washing of our streetlights,

735
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:59,320
the gazebo there, I know the water fountains we've talked about need to be replaced, but a little

736
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:06,320
power washing of the tables to before the first concert and then throughout would be helpful. Thanks.

737
00:59:07,780 --> 00:59:15,180
Peacock Creek, what we discovered is all the vegetation was dying and looked horrible,

738
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:16,240
looks horrible.

739
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:23,080
There is an irrigation break up there sometime ago, and the decision was made just to shut

740
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,420
the water off.

741
00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:31,120
And not repair the irrigation, and so that's why we have mass shrubbery death, flowers,

742
00:59:31,460 --> 00:59:32,960
plants, and some trees.

743
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,180
Some of the trees have come back, not all of them.

744
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:40,500
Our crew has replaced all the irrigation to make sure that it is working correctly.

745
00:59:41,380 --> 00:59:48,800
They now understand that with current correction, we don't shut water off and not repair it.

746
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,740
Shut it off, repair it, turn it back on.

747
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:51,920
That is our process.

748
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,680
They've removed the dead vegetation and weeds and they're working on that.

749
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,560
We will be doing some replanting this spring.

750
00:59:59,560 --> 00:59:59,980
But...

751
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:13,580
Also, some trees, the fall, because that's when the best time is to plant them when we want them to be successful. So, there is work being done to fix that median, that entrance way. So, it is much more presentable.

752
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:17,420
I have a question on that, excuse me, for you go. What's the funding source for that?

753
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:20,400
LMD. LMD. Thank you.

754
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:29,360
Fins repair downtown. I was looking at upgrading the fencing that we have downtown, because right now we have

755
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,520
chain link in the variety of places.

756
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:35,980
The estimate I got almost made me cry.

757
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,440
So we won't be doing that right now.

758
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:41,500
But there are some areas of fence repair.

759
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,320
So we'll have that done.

760
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:48,360
One of those areas is by the big cold, not cold,

761
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,420
a sack of cold.

762
01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:49,780
Cold work.

763
01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:50,360
Thank you.

764
01:00:50,420 --> 01:00:51,040
The other sea word.

765
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,860
Down by the benches on the trail.

766
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,080
The trail goes around it.

767
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,920
somebody's peeled the fence completely all the way back so we'll have that section replaced

768
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,060
and there's some other stuff where areas we need to tighten it up.

769
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,460
So making that look appropriate.

770
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:14,260
True trimming has been going on as Councilmember Ania mentioned, they spent a couple days in

771
01:01:14,260 --> 01:01:20,620
the grove, trimming those trees back, hopefully helping the grass grow and not be shaded

772
01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:22,000
all the time.

773
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:25,880
The village of mark is going to do a painting project so we had them cut the trees back

774
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,560
off of the market.

775
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,940
So that they could paint and the trees weren't rubbing against their building.

776
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,440
And then earlier, or not earlier, last month, tree trimming was done on the trails to get the

777
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,840
canopy up so people could walk through there safely.

778
01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:45,040
I have two questions on that.

779
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:45,780
Okay.

780
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,340
How often will that tree trimming on the trails be going forward?

781
01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:58,310
On the tree trimming, we've taken more on a health safety perspective, health of the tree

782
01:01:58,310 --> 01:02:00,810
public safety, so we don't have things falling on people.

783
01:02:01,550 --> 01:02:03,670
So we've taken much more of that kind of approach.

784
01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:11,770
The more aesthetic kind of work that needs to happen in some cases is kind of done more

785
01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:15,390
on an ad hoc basis, and so we've looked at that and tried to do that.

786
01:02:15,530 --> 01:02:20,330
So we don't have a general plan, but we really have really tried to take kind of a health

787
01:02:20,330 --> 01:02:22,630
safety perspective on the tree trimming.

788
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:44,410
Okay, and then for the tree trimming throughout the community, portion, my request would be if you can ask the contractor to trim them lower than the actual name of the street that's coming up, because to your point, as soon as they do it and by the time they drag down the street, it's already grown up again, it's a waste of their time, because you can't see the street signs.

789
01:02:44,410 --> 01:02:44,830
Yeah.

790
01:02:45,830 --> 01:02:45,870
Yeah.

791
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:47,390
So I'm going lower or higher.

792
01:02:47,810 --> 01:02:51,130
Trim them lower, even lower than what they're doing, because they're trimming them.

793
01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:55,890
And then they're bare, for example, I'm just going to use going up Eagle Peak, because

794
01:02:55,890 --> 01:02:57,290
this is going my house now.

795
01:02:57,810 --> 01:02:59,930
You go up Eagle Peak, you cannot see the Keller Ridge sign.

796
01:03:00,290 --> 01:03:03,690
I know it's there because I live there, but there are people who are coming past me

797
01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:04,350
walk.

798
01:03:04,690 --> 01:03:05,230
They're in the middle.

799
01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:08,930
They don't know that Keller Ridge is coming up, and then they cut you off because they

800
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:10,070
don't, they can't see the streets sign.

801
01:03:10,070 --> 01:03:10,470
Got it.

802
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:11,890
Because the bush is this high.

803
01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:12,450
Yeah.

804
01:03:12,450 --> 01:03:12,870
Oh, the full.

805
01:03:13,010 --> 01:03:13,730
It's the shrubs.

806
01:03:14,410 --> 01:03:15,170
Yeah, shrubs.

807
01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:15,570
That's it.

808
01:03:15,930 --> 01:03:16,530
I figured it out.

809
01:03:16,610 --> 01:03:17,210
Wait too high.

810
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:18,310
You've got the trees.

811
01:03:18,670 --> 01:03:20,130
You're thinking about the shrubs.

812
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:24,650
And that's the kind of work we actually are still using our maintenance staff for to do

813
01:03:24,650 --> 01:03:32,570
the shrub training shrub thing that way we're using the tree contractor for the real specialized big stuff.

814
01:03:32,570 --> 01:03:33,930
If you can ask the maintenance staff to please.

815
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:34,770
We'll do that.

816
01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:37,030
They try the streets too.

817
01:03:37,490 --> 01:03:38,770
So if you can't see a sign.

818
01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:39,270
Yeah.

819
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:46,270
Well, they do, they do it just below the sign, but that's a month later, yeah.

820
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:52,210
So, to your comment though, on the ad hoc nature, can I would just say,

821
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:58,350
as a personal matter,

822
01:03:59,410 --> 01:04:06,390
ad hoc stuff means it doesn't get done later, because there's always going to be something.

823
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:09,810
So, even though we may not want to do it very frequently,

824
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:13,390
the way that I would address that is

825
01:04:14,650 --> 01:04:17,330
have a schedule where it gets reviewed

826
01:04:17,330 --> 01:04:21,330
at least at some minimum interval, whatever you establish,

827
01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:25,130
it could be a year or two years or whatever,

828
01:04:26,290 --> 01:04:30,390
but at least it's on the list so that it doesn't get missed.

829
01:04:30,850 --> 01:04:34,490
Because if it's at-hawk, and let's say it's a long,

830
01:04:35,590 --> 01:04:47,690
scheduled task that you only do one to every three years. If you miss it, that's another it could be like another three years. If it's not on the schedule. That's why every like to me a good.

831
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:54,630
The way that you manage these activities is everything's on the schedule. You don't have to do them all the time, but at least you know, okay, someone's got to look at it.

832
01:04:54,850 --> 01:04:59,830
You look at it, evaluate it, and then it's done. And maybe you take no action, but at least.

833
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,100
It was reviewed. So, that way, you can never say it got missed. So, that would be my recommendation for anything at

834
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:11,320
Hawk. I mean, I'm a process guy and I don't, like, at Hawk is, it gets missed.

835
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:23,600
Well, and you can also purchase preventative maintenance software where it alerts you when it's due. So, you don't have to manually keep track of it, whether it's monthly, quarterly, annually.

836
01:05:24,140 --> 01:05:26,600
everything on a list means nothing it's missed yeah

837
01:05:38,090 --> 01:05:42,410
so special thanks to our

838
01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:46,130
police department I asked them to do me a solid and as they were out on

839
01:05:46,130 --> 01:05:51,450
patrol day and night make a list of things they see that is that needs to be

840
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:59,450
attended to. Two weeks later they came back with I don't know how many pages the

841
01:05:59,450 --> 01:06:05,030
list was whether it was extensive and it's not all on here but we have a 143

842
01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:10,730
segments of curb that we need to paint. 12 street signs that need to be replaced like name

843
01:06:10,730 --> 01:06:18,170
of streets that are faded or stolen or whatever. 38 segments of bots dots, those are the

844
01:06:18,170 --> 01:06:24,230
fun little bots that are glued in the street. 65 blue reflectors, those mark the fire hydrant

845
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:31,630
location, so it helps fire see them with their approaching, especially at night. 15 roadway markings,

846
01:06:31,630 --> 01:06:39,130
The limit lines the crosswalks are either faded or not existing because it's been so long

847
01:06:39,130 --> 01:06:46,830
since anybody's attended to them. And then 17 faded or damaged street signs of stop crossing

848
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:58,390
whatever it might be. So this is again another list that we just got last week. We need to develop

849
01:06:58,390 --> 01:07:06,130
plan of who can do this work over the next few months, so I'm

850
01:07:06,130 --> 01:07:08,810
going to be contracted out, can we do some of it in-house?

851
01:07:09,010 --> 01:07:13,690
That's what our next determination is, and how we get this all

852
01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:14,410
corrected.

853
01:07:16,030 --> 01:07:17,250
I'm sorry, Nia, has a comment.

854
01:07:17,330 --> 01:07:19,990
I have a couple of comments on me.

855
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:22,370
The road signs and the street signs.

856
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:26,530
They must have been up for 40 years that I know those colors

857
01:07:26,530 --> 01:07:27,210
are terrible.

858
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:31,450
If they, I know why they did it, they wanted to make the town a western.

859
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:35,690
It's not western anymore, and it's to be marked.

860
01:07:36,350 --> 01:07:42,450
I would be in favor of having reflective road signs and street signs as we go along.

861
01:07:42,850 --> 01:07:46,370
Not all, once, but as we replace them.

862
01:07:46,690 --> 01:07:48,570
Some color that would look nice.

863
01:07:49,970 --> 01:07:54,010
And I don't know how the rest of the council feels about that, but you can't even read those signs.

864
01:07:54,510 --> 01:08:00,170
You can't even read the city limit when you're coming into town, and it's just something

865
01:08:00,170 --> 01:08:05,310
that happened over time. I'm a long favorite of changing that color.

866
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:13,120
I wouldn't say I'm in favor of intending how much it costs, but I agree. I agree. I'd

867
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,540
just saying that that would really boost our town.

868
01:08:17,900 --> 01:08:21,960
If you would like what we can do is bring back some samples and some prep, because as we

869
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,800
place them like to to your point. We don't need to do the entire city at one time, but as

870
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,460
we're in place and kind of move through, we can go with the overall signs, but we don't have

871
01:08:31,460 --> 01:08:33,020
the number. We all room.

872
01:08:33,220 --> 01:08:37,140
We used to come somewhere around here as the other company.

873
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:44,960
On the 143 segments, the group is that primarily red that has faded. Yeah, because they are

874
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,620
pink in a lot of the areas.

875
01:08:47,060 --> 01:08:47,880
Yes, if you're lucky.

876
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:54,040
Yeah, yeah, I think it's good or a chat. Yeah, and I'm not familiar with the

877
01:08:54,740 --> 01:09:01,780
blue reflectors of the firehives. Is that something requirement? Because I haven't, I haven't noticed any.

878
01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:07,080
Because they're all gone. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, that's why I haven't seen it.

879
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,080
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

880
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:17,340
Yeah, some are roadway. Yeah. It's a bot. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can, that's what I teach to kids when

881
01:09:17,340 --> 01:09:21,220
every time there's a blue reflector, that means there's a fire ahead of there.

882
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,420
So I do think the most important thing here is the last thing you said,

883
01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:30,560
though Chris, which is who's going to do the work?

884
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:32,820
Do we hire an outside company?

885
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,220
And what is it going to cost us?

886
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,340
So are you going to come back to us?

887
01:09:38,860 --> 01:09:39,860
You're like hell now.

888
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:42,180
We're going to move it forward and do it.

889
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,620
Yes, you can execute as fast as possible.

890
01:09:44,900 --> 01:09:45,500
That's the plan.

891
01:09:45,900 --> 01:09:46,480
That would be good.

892
01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:56,940
And I would throw, and if you have it on another slide, I apologize, but the street lights are a bismal-hall-hall-hall.

893
01:09:57,420 --> 01:09:59,920
Peace is missing, they're not black anymore.

894
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:10,880
There are, and something that's maybe doggy, urine, resistance, paint, because that's what happens, right?

895
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:16,340
That's how the pink gets evaded, but the street lights are also really bad.

896
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:23,040
You know, this list here and why I listed the help of the police department, because these are safety issues.

897
01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:28,300
You know, whether you can't see the street sign coming up and it's going to cause a traffic collision, because oh,

898
01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:34,020
the last decade, they swore over or not knowing there's a fire hydrant and grid curves and

899
01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:40,940
all those things. So this is, you know, we really want to get this addressed, damage stop signs,

900
01:10:41,380 --> 01:10:47,120
not okay, stop signs that have the reflectors but the reflectors are broken down or whatever,

901
01:10:47,180 --> 01:10:53,160
we need to, those are all safety issues. And so this is a critically important part of this

902
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,260
process but because it's health and safety it's the top priority.

903
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:00,220
I have an

904
01:11:00,220 --> 01:11:03,760
quick, when you talk about safety and what about mirrors because there's a

905
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,120
number of places I've seen where mirrors will be very helpful when you're

906
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:13,860
exiting a particular street and the traffic is you know coming down to the

907
01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:21,800
great next speed. Yeah we would probably need to do a list of traffic engineer for

908
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:27,020
that. But what I would ask is if there are certain

909
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:29,200
intersections that you're you're much more familiar

910
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,840
I've got. And I'll send them to you. Send them to us and we can

911
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:38,080
yeah, we can look at that. The only thing I was going to say is I'm not

912
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,320
opposed to moving forward, but I would like to know how much all of

913
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:46,580
this costs us. I think we should know. Do it. So we need to know how

914
01:11:46,580 --> 01:11:50,500
much this is. Well, yeah, I'm happy to show the information, but

915
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:54,240
And if the contract exceeds what my authority is, it'll definitely have to come back.

916
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,280
But I think it would be great for the residents to know too.

917
01:11:57,460 --> 01:11:58,760
Like we did all of the safety stuff.

918
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,980
That was one of the priorities that we had when we did goal setting a couple of years ago.

919
01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:04,880
I think they need to know what their dollars went to pay for.

920
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:05,380
Yeah.

921
01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:06,080
I'm happy to report.

922
01:12:06,460 --> 01:12:06,600
Yeah.

923
01:12:06,740 --> 01:12:07,480
Can I ask?

924
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:11,340
Until we address at least all of these and there's probably more.

925
01:12:11,500 --> 01:12:16,000
Can there just be a regular segment in your report that goes up?

926
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:17,060
The city manager report?

927
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:17,420
Yeah.

928
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:17,940
Oh, no.

929
01:12:17,940 --> 01:12:24,720
I mean, even in the council report, or the council, sorry, the city manager, but we believe

930
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,660
that.

931
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:26,140
No.

932
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:27,740
The city manager report.

933
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,800
So can you report out on this each time on the status and how we're doing?

934
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,040
I think that'd be helpful.

935
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,840
Roadway improvements.

936
01:12:44,420 --> 01:12:49,080
We have the contract, which you guys approved, I believe, the last meeting for $50,000

937
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,920
to do pot hole and street repair.

938
01:12:51,920 --> 01:13:03,020
So that is now in place if you recall the the past practices been buying a bag of cold patch it home depot and pound it into the ground in the next time it rains

939
01:13:03,780 --> 01:13:11,420
It just blows back out again, and it's we're like the dog chasing a tail the one in front of me. What's that the one in front of my house is now coming in

940
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,580
That's on the main

941
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:16,760
yep

942
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:26,800
So, this way they will actually cut it, hot patch it, roll it, do it correctly so we get some time out of it.

943
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:34,060
Payment project. We're still moving forward with that summer fall. We're on that timeline.

944
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,760
The design we should have or do we do have. There it is. Got it yesterday.

945
01:13:41,420 --> 01:13:46,980
We will release the bid, hopefully by mid-May, we'll have that bid and it'll be to you

946
01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:51,880
June 2nd for approval of a contract and a timeline to get the paving project completed

947
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:56,300
before or during fall of 2026.

948
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,180
Just a quick question on that.

949
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,180
So there is no chance and I know this is like something to none.

950
01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:07,640
But I'm going to ask, no chance to do Main Street before the 4th of July parade.

951
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:08,680
No.

952
01:14:09,340 --> 01:14:09,680
No.

953
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:11,020
Okay.

954
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:12,240
Okay.

955
01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:14,320
Because we were talking about summer.

956
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:15,160
Now we're fall.

957
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:16,720
Thanks.

958
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,600
So these are the segments that you approved last fall.

959
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:31,800
Marsh Creek between El Molino and that should be Clayton Road.

960
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,820
Mount Air Parkway between Marsh Creek and Mount Air Circle with the road diet

961
01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:44,060
striping, which is reducing the lanes, the bite, putting the bike lanes in to slow people

962
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:49,420
down, harm and drive between Mitchell Canyon and Tiff and Drive, North Mitchell Canyon,

963
01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:58,380
road between Clayton, North, Northern End, Eagle Peak, between Oakhurst, to Keller Ridge,

964
01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:59,860
Oakhurst East.

965
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:08,180
Elportal between Regency and El Pueblo and Main Street between Oak and Marsh Creek. So that was what was approved.

966
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:16,860
That's what we sent to the designer and that's what we have received back is the design work and the cost estimate.

967
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:25,560
And so the next step is Bids. We'll see what the Bids come in. We know we have this much money and hopefully the Bids match that much money.

968
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,640
If we're under, is there something we can add?

969
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:37,260
I don't know, if it's over, we'll have to discuss how we address that by pulling more

970
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:40,760
money to make the difference or cutting a project.

971
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,760
That'll be the discussion at that time for Council to decide how to move forward with that.

972
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,440
So, some major projects, downtown pedestrian improvements,

973
01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:59,660
the rapid flashing beacon system,

974
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:07,460
table top raised intersection, and the raised crosswalk, we are at 90 percent plan.

975
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,520
So, our hope is we'll have a new public work structure in a few weeks.

976
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,340
They'll take that on if we don't have that public work

977
01:16:16,340 --> 01:16:16,800
director.

978
01:16:17,540 --> 01:16:21,060
Our plan will be to bring somebody in and only to move

979
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:23,380
these projects forward so they're not sitting stagnant.

980
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:29,260
In my only question around that is, so years ago now,

981
01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:33,000
we approved what we called the Dunton Pedestrian Project.

982
01:16:33,020 --> 01:16:37,100
I think there were five crossways, which were flashing signs,

983
01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:40,960
raised crosswalks, flashing stop signs,

984
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,380
because we added the fifth one, right by which is Vinnie's

985
01:16:45,380 --> 01:16:48,420
Chakari and now, by the post office, do you, what's

986
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:51,000
said, I mean, it was years ago.

987
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,920
Do you know where that project?

988
01:16:54,740 --> 01:16:57,680
It was fun from, it might have been Measure J.

989
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,240
I know, it was through CCTA.

990
01:17:00,140 --> 01:17:02,860
Like it was a real long time ago.

991
01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:04,840
That's the, isn't that the stuff on this slide?

992
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:09,000
It was a crosswalk, so it was between the grove and the

993
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,060
Oh, that is that happening?

994
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:19,960
Oh, okay.

995
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:20,420
Oh, okay.

996
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:21,680
Sorry.

997
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:22,160
I didn't.

998
01:17:22,740 --> 01:17:24,200
Well, how come mine's different?

999
01:17:24,660 --> 01:17:25,020
One page.

1000
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:25,980
You've got to go.

1001
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:26,700
That's a job.

1002
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:27,740
Oh.

1003
01:17:27,740 --> 01:17:28,180
Or down?

1004
01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:31,260
Oh, there it is.

1005
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:31,680
Sorry.

1006
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,140
I scrolled ahead too far.

1007
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:34,460
I apologize.

1008
01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:35,660
I apologize.

1009
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:37,140
Yeah.

1010
01:17:37,140 --> 01:17:37,640
So,

1011
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:44,600
as I said, this will go to the new public door extracur if for some reason this doesn't

1012
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:50,300
pan out, we'll bring an interim and we'll keep this stuff going, because you're right, it's been

1013
01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:52,920
sitting for a minute or two.

1014
01:17:57,490 --> 01:18:03,210
Councilmember, on the major projects and help me understand better these raised and rectangular

1015
01:18:03,210 --> 01:18:09,810
rapid flashing beacons. And I noticed you have two intersections that are of concern, where

1016
01:18:09,810 --> 01:18:19,090
people are very close to getting hit by vehicles. And that's the Main Street and Mars Creek

1017
01:18:19,090 --> 01:18:26,730
and Center Street and Mars Creek. Tell me, these are going to be those, like you see in Walnut

1018
01:18:26,730 --> 01:18:32,990
Creek, they have a crosswalk where you push a button and then yellow lights come on and people

1019
01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:35,250
and though that somebody's coming across there.

1020
01:18:35,290 --> 01:18:36,890
These are in the crosswalk part, right?

1021
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:38,350
Yeah, they're all in the ground.

1022
01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:40,830
So that when you hit the button,

1023
01:18:41,210 --> 01:18:43,250
they flashed to alert people that

1024
01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:44,770
there's a good restaurant trying to cross.

1025
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:47,570
If I was got it, we ran over myself here

1026
01:18:47,570 --> 01:18:50,870
just before daylight saving times came.

1027
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:54,870
And the Marsh Creek Road in Main Street

1028
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:56,370
is a raised table top.

1029
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:59,250
So it actually is, the trap is like,

1030
01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:02,630
it's a big speed bump that you cross.

1031
01:19:03,450 --> 01:19:10,450
So it's slow people now and makes them stop, but also alerts people driving that there are pedestrians.

1032
01:19:11,010 --> 01:19:13,690
The kids on the e-bikes could use it as a ramp. That would be awesome.

1033
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,120
I would.

1034
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:26,460
Pedestrian proven it's all ADA accessible pathway between 4 Oaks Lane and Pine Hollow.

1035
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:31,640
This is something that came up in a couple of discussions and other meetings.

1036
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:40,200
That plan was put into place and its CSG was working on the design and it's at 60 percent.

1037
01:19:40,380 --> 01:19:49,060
They sent it to me a week or so ago and it was to use Measure J funds and a TDA grant to

1038
01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:55,320
fund that the total price of putting that pathway in is 200K.

1039
01:19:57,950 --> 01:19:59,470
How soon can we do it?

1040
01:20:01,770 --> 01:20:12,930
As soon as I get back to CSG and finalize the plans, then we'll have to notify the homeowners because we do have a couple of houses there that have encroached on the easement with their beautification.

1041
01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:21,010
And so we need to let them know that this is coming and so before we go in there, we would like them to move back to the line.

1042
01:20:21,010 --> 01:20:27,610
This is the area that I think Mr. Sinkay was very passionate about when he had come to meetings.

1043
01:20:28,270 --> 01:20:33,790
I actually think this would be a great improvement for especially young students as they go to school.

1044
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:48,050
So this is the, this is precisely the type of project where it is completely appropriate to use one time fund because it creates a sidewalk that is going well.

1045
01:20:48,050 --> 01:20:52,050
This says, ADA accessible, I'm just going to assume it's a sidewalk for us.

1046
01:20:53,790 --> 01:21:00,710
It creates an asset for the city that all the future students from that direction can use.

1047
01:21:01,470 --> 01:21:07,290
So, to me, that's incredibly appropriate for as a one-time cost.

1048
01:21:07,870 --> 01:21:10,110
So, the faster that this can be done, the better.

1049
01:21:13,370 --> 01:21:16,050
Sometimes there's a residence that...

1050
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:20,210
It can be very resistant in that area.

1051
01:21:20,930 --> 01:21:23,130
If it's our property, they're encroachied on.

1052
01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:24,890
Can we just clear it?

1053
01:21:25,690 --> 01:21:27,130
Where is that going to take a court process?

1054
01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:31,030
That's what it says.

1055
01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:31,270
That's what it says.

1056
01:21:31,650 --> 01:21:32,870
That's what it was like in it mean.

1057
01:21:33,290 --> 01:21:38,410
It wouldn't take a court process, but we should provide appropriate notice to allow them to clear

1058
01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:39,190
it and remove.

1059
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:40,690
I don't know what is.

1060
01:21:41,050 --> 01:21:46,570
If it's just, it's, it's, plants and flowers and, yeah, to allow them to be, it's not a building.

1061
01:21:47,210 --> 01:21:47,610
It's plants.

1062
01:21:47,610 --> 01:21:52,610
it sounds like so that they can potentially move it and relocate it to their own property.

1063
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:58,150
And my only question you said there was a $200,000 price tag.

1064
01:21:58,690 --> 01:22:01,610
I think the grant at the time was like 65,000.

1065
01:22:02,650 --> 01:22:03,830
Is that still the case?

1066
01:22:04,610 --> 01:22:06,690
Do we still have some money coming in?

1067
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:07,810
Okay.

1068
01:22:08,050 --> 01:22:08,710
I hope we do.

1069
01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:09,990
We have some exploring to do.

1070
01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:10,930
What's that?

1071
01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:12,590
We have some exploring to do on that.

1072
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:23,740
Cardenate Trail repair from the Storm Damage, that is with CSG, you approve that contract

1073
01:22:23,740 --> 01:22:29,100
a couple of meetings ago so that they can start that design work and develop the scope

1074
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:29,800
of work.

1075
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:36,360
Then let us know all the fun permits that we're going to have to acquire to do the work in

1076
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,240
the stream bed.

1077
01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:42,240
That's the one where we got some funding for Antima, so good on us and now we need to actually

1078
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,620
put it to good use. Yes. Okay.

1079
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:54,400
So, wait, let me see is there more. There's no more. Okay. So, as a good PM,

1080
01:22:56,690 --> 01:23:03,390
every single one of these should have dates. So, I know you don't have them now and a lot of them will be TBD,

1081
01:23:03,970 --> 01:23:09,150
but if there's no date, like either of the next major milestone or the completion date,

1082
01:23:09,730 --> 01:23:15,530
then the next thing should be a date for when that is going to happen. So, either an actual date or a date

1083
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:20,530
That way, it can, like, the residents and everyone could see all of these things are flowing.

1084
01:23:21,090 --> 01:23:27,030
We know when I'm not going to bug you about it because it's not due until it becomes due.

1085
01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:28,410
So.

1086
01:23:28,410 --> 01:23:29,450
And a cost.

1087
01:23:30,450 --> 01:23:30,930
Costs.

1088
01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:31,770
Costs is due.

1089
01:23:33,630 --> 01:23:34,110
Yes.

1090
01:23:34,370 --> 01:23:36,010
We can, we can work on that.

1091
01:23:36,730 --> 01:23:43,510
And in conclusion of that, this is a small bite of what we're working on.

1092
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:48,890
there's more than needs to be done. There are other items that are, I don't want to say low

1093
01:23:48,890 --> 01:23:55,440
hanging fruit but there are things that we need to address that didn't make the list but we're aware of.

1094
01:23:57,030 --> 01:24:04,850
I spent a couple of days, two weeks ago just driving with a note pad and

1095
01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:09,210
Hotels, curbs, sidewalks, trees, shrubs.

1096
01:24:09,650 --> 01:24:11,770
Like while you're driving, you're...

1097
01:24:15,070 --> 01:24:16,190
Audio notes, yeah, they're here.

1098
01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:18,930
I stop, pulled over, made the notes,

1099
01:24:19,210 --> 01:24:20,470
and then continued to drive.

1100
01:24:21,230 --> 01:24:22,290
I'm true, just making sure.

1101
01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:23,090
I don't believe you.

1102
01:24:23,630 --> 01:24:24,350
Safety first.

1103
01:24:25,050 --> 01:24:25,530
Just making sure.

1104
01:24:25,670 --> 01:24:26,810
I had my helmet on.

1105
01:24:28,690 --> 01:24:31,510
So like I said, there is a whole other list of things

1106
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:35,150
at the one off little pieces here, there, everywhere.

1107
01:24:36,150 --> 01:24:40,870
one of the things, if you notice over at Endeavor Hall, there used to be all those concrete

1108
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:49,950
parking blocks that were all busted to heck. The majority of them were busted, chunks of concrete laying there.

1109
01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:57,950
Those have been removed, rebar has been removed, so they're no longer trip hazards, they're no longer going to, you know.

1110
01:24:58,770 --> 01:24:59,930
If you go to any part figure

1111
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:04,640
There's no parking pad at every, you just park within the lines.

1112
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:15,700
So eliminating trip hazards is critical for us. That also allows that parking lot to be utilized as a runable space for other activities that we want to do.

1113
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:22,280
We don't have tripping hazards down the middle of it, so it was a win-win. So that was accomplished last week.

1114
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:34,220
So, there's just ongoing things that we are addressing as needed and the final piece, and this has been something I think you guys have been talking about.

1115
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:45,380
Long before I started working here is 311 having the ability for our residents to take a picture, geolocate and report.

1116
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:52,040
whatever, a tree, a bush, a pothole, whatever, and that comes into us, we are ready to launch that tomorrow.

1117
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,760
That is one of the new modules is our part of our new website, and I'll get into that during my city manager report,

1118
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:04,560
but I felt it important to mention that as part of this presentation that we finally have that implementation

1119
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:11,420
so that we will have a workflow. Those are items that when they come in with there, now they will be trackable.

1120
01:26:11,420 --> 01:26:17,420
There will be a sign to a staff person, that staff person will then report when they've completed the work.

1121
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:21,900
So there should be a close circle on all of these things.

1122
01:26:22,820 --> 01:26:24,260
So that's good news.

1123
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,860
That it works 100% correctly.

1124
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:30,360
But it's part of the implementation.

1125
01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:40,660
And it's only going to work as well as our public works director utilizes that tool to assign work on a weekly basis and make sure that they're tracking

1126
01:26:40,660 --> 01:26:42,580
of what's happening.

1127
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,980
So which of, do you, go, I'm going to add it on to,

1128
01:26:46,980 --> 01:26:50,420
before it leaves the Endeavor Hall parking lot.

1129
01:26:51,220 --> 01:26:53,160
One of the things that was pointed out, particularly

1130
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,300
because it's the poor lighting over there,

1131
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,940
is that little garden, and I think I sent you a photograph

1132
01:26:57,940 --> 01:26:59,780
of it, and I found it, I'll reset it.

1133
01:26:59,780 --> 01:27:01,980
But there's a little garden, I guess,

1134
01:27:02,060 --> 01:27:07,700
or a little tree area on the exiting from the gate

1135
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:09,280
that goes into the parking lot.

1136
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,600
And at night, particularly, it's a hazard.

1137
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,340
People are potentially going to trip and fall

1138
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,340
because that area is not part of a pavement.

1139
01:27:20,820 --> 01:27:22,680
And I don't know what they're suggest.

1140
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:24,420
It just needs to be looking at.

1141
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:27,240
Since you're removing some of those part of parking blocks.

1142
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,760
I know I know what you're talking about.

1143
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,500
Which of these items, especially on the major projects,

1144
01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:40,620
do you need that exceed your authority

1145
01:27:40,620 --> 01:27:42,600
to just do that you need approval for?

1146
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,780
Because I think when we last budget on it,

1147
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:47,500
me, you know, we had talked about some of these things,

1148
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,420
but not all.

1149
01:27:49,380 --> 01:27:51,780
And, you know, the ask was,

1150
01:27:51,780 --> 01:27:55,380
bring us something that we can approve so that you can go do work.

1151
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:58,300
So, which of these fit that bill?

1152
01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:00,560
Any? At this point? Or is it still TVD?

1153
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,120
We have a timeline.

1154
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:14,360
We're doing the papers.

1155
01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:15,720
And all of that.

1156
01:28:15,860 --> 01:28:17,240
We're going to have to contract that bill.

1157
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:19,520
Oh.

1158
01:28:19,900 --> 01:28:20,200
All right.

1159
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:27,800
Can you do it again? I can do it again. One take. Okay, so when it's ready, you'll bring it.

1160
01:28:27,820 --> 01:28:31,540
When it's ready, we'll bring it back and you'll approve the contract and the full scope of the plan.

1161
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:33,380
Yeah, sounds good.

1162
01:28:34,660 --> 01:28:41,280
All right. Is that conclude your presentation? Is there any other questions for staff?

1163
01:28:44,380 --> 01:28:54,380
I have just one request for the safety piece for not for folks, oak, street, coming, the ramp.

1164
01:28:55,660 --> 01:28:59,320
A lot of people go up that the wrong way and I know you said that you're going to have that flashing beacon,

1165
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,200
but you also have something that's brighter that tells people not to go up that way.

1166
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,680
It says it do not enter, but people still go up the ramp from the Bachi courts out of town.

1167
01:29:09,220 --> 01:29:11,400
Wait, they go the wrong way on one way.

1168
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:11,420
Right.

1169
01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:12,660
Yes.

1170
01:29:12,980 --> 01:29:13,520
Seems dangerous.

1171
01:29:13,860 --> 01:29:14,260
It's very.

1172
01:29:15,580 --> 01:29:15,640
Ask.

1173
01:29:16,020 --> 01:29:16,820
Ask the chief.

1174
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:18,380
They're probably is.

1175
01:29:18,940 --> 01:29:19,860
But it.

1176
01:29:19,860 --> 01:29:22,360
It already says do not enter, but they do it anyway.

1177
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,540
And I'm wondering if if the if don't do spikes.

1178
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,400
If the if the.

1179
01:29:29,980 --> 01:29:30,440
I don't know.

1180
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,140
PD your engineer or somebody can look at that.

1181
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:35,160
Just to there there needs to be something else that's done there.

1182
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:35,440
Yeah.

1183
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,360
Every Friday night somebody does it.

1184
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:38,500
And then the car's coming down the ramp.

1185
01:29:38,500 --> 01:29:42,260
to flash at them in Hong and we scream from the bunch of courts to tell them to stop.

1186
01:29:42,980 --> 01:29:46,960
Sometimes they hear us, and sometimes they don't, and they end up on Clayton Road, facing traffic,

1187
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:52,280
and then figure it out and have to do a U-turn into the parking, like they have to come in the wrong way

1188
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,220
to get right here.

1189
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:54,620
Chief.

1190
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,260
There's a lot to do, yes.

1191
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,700
We will take a look.

1192
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,580
I was going to say Chief, now you know.

1193
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,880
Friday nights, after Bouchy. I couldn't even imagine that would be a thing.

1194
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,500
It's every Friday. When I've been at Bouchy.

1195
01:30:11,290 --> 01:30:13,390
That's not what you shouldn't do that.

1196
01:30:14,450 --> 01:30:17,910
Okay, I'm not sure, do we need public comment on this item?

1197
01:30:18,690 --> 01:30:22,990
All right, public comment on item 5C. The city, beautification and project update.

1198
01:30:24,150 --> 01:30:30,310
Seeing none, I will close public comment and that concludes that. Thank you very much for the update, helpful.

1199
01:30:31,330 --> 01:30:32,130
Okay, I

1200
01:30:34,630 --> 01:30:39,190
don't say support City Manager for it.

1201
01:30:39,450 --> 01:30:41,670
All right, I'll be brief this evening.

1202
01:30:43,070 --> 01:30:44,750
Quick update, public works director.

1203
01:30:46,270 --> 01:30:47,590
We've done the first round of reviews.

1204
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:51,490
We'll be bringing eight candidates for next week for interviews.

1205
01:30:52,030 --> 01:30:57,510
We're trying to move quickly on this position because we've been without it for just a minute.

1206
01:30:57,510 --> 01:31:06,630
And so that's, and we had a total of 57 applications thus far, 12 of them at the MQs,

1207
01:31:06,730 --> 01:31:10,350
and we whittle that down to bring 8 in for the interview.

1208
01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:13,170
So that's, that's looking hopeful.

1209
01:31:13,750 --> 01:31:21,510
Website update, we are in the middle of bringing modules online, which is part of Civic Plus.

1210
01:31:23,930 --> 01:31:35,530
PRA requests, 311 that I mentioned, activation, there's a couple other modules that we are rolling out and we'll be announcing those in the coming weeks.

1211
01:31:36,430 --> 01:31:41,750
Skylar's done a nice job leading this charge, yes, that gentleman back there at the beautiful beard.

1212
01:31:42,930 --> 01:31:50,770
So thank you to him and while we're talking about Skyler, we attended his graduation from the

1213
01:31:50,770 --> 01:31:59,430
Contra Costa Leadership Academy last week and he, so now we have, we have greater expectations

1214
01:31:59,430 --> 01:32:03,190
from him, we're going to clap, we're going to clap

1215
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:11,070
and this week, the graduates will be presenting

1216
01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:16,710
at the Public Management Association meeting, and one of the presenters is our very own

1217
01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:17,250
Skyler.

1218
01:32:18,990 --> 01:32:24,010
So I have high expectations of him making us look good in front of the other cities, so

1219
01:32:24,010 --> 01:32:24,750
he'll do well.

1220
01:32:25,850 --> 01:32:28,550
That concludes my report for this evening.

1221
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,600
I have a question relative to the public works.

1222
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,820
Is PE designation professional engineer not a requirement?

1223
01:32:39,820 --> 01:32:40,340
Not a requirement.

1224
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:42,480
Yep.

1225
01:32:44,150 --> 01:32:46,210
If you know a guy.

1226
01:32:46,250 --> 01:32:52,570
No, but yeah, I know, but usually our most public works managers have a professional engineer's

1227
01:32:52,570 --> 01:32:52,870
rating.

1228
01:32:53,950 --> 01:32:58,830
So, there's two, we did do that initially and it didn't work out for us, so we reduced it

1229
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:02,710
to a public works director and any specialized engineering stamp that we'll need.

1230
01:33:03,090 --> 01:33:06,170
We have CSG on contract to do that.

1231
01:33:06,910 --> 01:33:13,090
So cities either have one that is both, larger cities will have a public works director

1232
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:15,870
and a city engineer.

1233
01:33:18,550 --> 01:33:18,770
Excellent.

1234
01:33:20,350 --> 01:33:20,770
All right.

1235
01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:22,770
Item 6b city council reports.

1236
01:33:23,010 --> 01:33:25,870
They can be found in the agenda packet.

1237
01:33:26,910 --> 01:33:30,390
So next item is item 7a.

1238
01:33:30,410 --> 01:33:32,590
This is introducing an ordinance to amend.

1239
01:33:32,670 --> 01:33:33,690
This is the one-time order.

1240
01:33:34,270 --> 01:33:36,690
To amend the clean municipal code.

1241
01:33:38,450 --> 01:33:40,390
A lot of subsections for housing.

1242
01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:44,190
Please take us away.

1243
01:33:44,510 --> 01:33:45,250
Thank you.

1244
01:33:46,090 --> 01:33:48,630
Good evening, Mayor One.

1245
01:33:49,150 --> 01:33:50,010
In council members.

1246
01:33:51,550 --> 01:33:53,550
I'm actually going to share my screen.

1247
01:33:53,790 --> 01:33:55,150
Did I think of my still panelists?

1248
01:33:57,900 --> 01:33:57,940
Okay.

1249
01:34:00,610 --> 01:34:02,510
A pair of little PowerPoint

1250
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,700
for you.

1251
01:34:06,940 --> 01:34:08,240
Let me go ahead and expand that.

1252
01:34:09,420 --> 01:34:12,060
I forgot to say I need to open the public hearing.

1253
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:13,860
Yes.

1254
01:34:24,810 --> 01:34:25,590
Okay.

1255
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:28,870
Thank you.

1256
01:34:31,090 --> 01:34:35,470
So this evening we are here to receive the Planning Commission Resolution

1257
01:34:35,470 --> 01:34:43,150
number 0 4 2026 with a recommendation that the City Council of the City of Clayton had

1258
01:34:43,150 --> 01:34:58,390
the ordinance amending the Clayton Municipal Code Section 1736.079 of chapter 1736, which are the general regulations of Title 17 of the City of Clayton's Municipal Code.

1259
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:16,100
This is specific language that would allow certain residential housing as by right with specific affordable housing language, and defining by right as it relates to certain affordable housing element opportunity sites.

1260
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:29,460
The recommendation this evening from staff is to receive the project overview, conduct a public hearing, except written in spoke in testimony and close the public hearing.

1261
01:35:31,540 --> 01:35:38,520
So, the background on this, as I'm sure everyone is well aware, on January 2023, the City Council

1262
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:45,600
certified the final ERA, EIR, and in January 24, the City Council adopted amendments

1263
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,500
to the official zoning map and municipal zoning code thereafter.

1264
01:35:50,580 --> 01:35:55,600
The housing element update and the zoning amendments were afforded to the state department

1265
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,200
of housing and community development agency in Sacramento.

1266
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:04,300
And since then, the city has made two amendments to the municipal code at the request of

1267
01:36:04,300 --> 01:36:06,460
HCD related to the housing element update.

1268
01:36:07,660 --> 01:36:13,420
Now, the most current amendments that are before you are refinements of a previous amendment

1269
01:36:13,420 --> 01:36:19,360
that was brought not too long ago in January and was approved by the city council.

1270
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,740
They were also forwarded to the housing and community development department,

1271
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,780
and they have brought back additional comments that they have asked for.

1272
01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:34,460
and specifically there are three items and they are sites that are identified to accommodate the short

1273
01:36:34,460 --> 01:36:41,100
falls in the regional housing needs assessment that they be allowed by right when at least 20% of the

1274
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:49,020
homes are dedicated to affordable housing to ensure that regional requirements prevail in cases where

1275
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:57,760
a base zone has lower densities than the required minimums and three the term by right needs to be

1276
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:04,100
in the code, as it relates to housing, and is required by state standards to be supported

1277
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:09,820
by our code. So it needs to be in there where it previously was not. It was just basically

1278
01:37:09,820 --> 01:37:14,980
reference to, and assumed that by and right was as the state intended.

1279
01:37:18,010 --> 01:37:20,590
Now, this slide in the

1280
01:37:20,590 --> 01:37:26,870
And the power point is the amendment to the title 1736-079.

1281
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:35,270
The three sections that were requested by the HCD are in three different shades of blue and

1282
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:37,110
the black and is also underlying.

1283
01:37:38,670 --> 01:37:43,750
But I wasn't going to read this unless you want me to, okay, thank you.

1284
01:37:45,380 --> 01:37:52,560
And so, I am available for questions that ends my presentation.

1285
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,280
Is this going to end?

1286
01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:00,140
You asked me that every day.

1287
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,140
We were up when I was up at the early morning.

1288
01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:05,880
We got California City's meeting in Sacramento.

1289
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,160
I must have talked to at least a dozen city representatives.

1290
01:38:09,820 --> 01:38:10,920
All had their plans approved.

1291
01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:14,120
Is there a gremlin up there that doesn't like Clayton?

1292
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:19,760
There has to be there has to be there's gotta be some sort of a why believe in living

1293
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,780
Singled out is absolutely

1294
01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:27,760
Appalling and I don't know how we find out what's going on, but this this has been going

1295
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,540
You know, we're gonna be celebrating another birthday with this thing

1296
01:38:31,540 --> 01:38:32,840
But we do unfortunately

1297
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,240
It's probably not now. I think we should probably

1298
01:38:38,260 --> 01:38:43,580
Get get it approved. Okay, I would just want to make my objection known

1299
01:38:43,580 --> 01:38:48,780
This is this is something's going on there. We need to find out at some point. Thank you.

1300
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:54,080
Well, I had a very frank conversation with HCD about this. I said.

1301
01:38:55,300 --> 01:38:57,700
Tell us what you want here.

1302
01:38:58,660 --> 01:39:03,300
And this is the wording that they said. So when I send this in tomorrow,

1303
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,760
I am going to ask them to provide some sort of interim.

1304
01:39:07,420 --> 01:39:08,800
Do you have to wait for the second reading?

1305
01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:09,900
Well,

1306
01:39:12,980 --> 01:39:24,260
there's a part of the conversation that I had with them, they want to see it, they want to make sure that we're taking action on it, but yes, it would be the second reading before it goes and passes through their official workflow.

1307
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,020
So this language was provided by them.

1308
01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:28,940
That is correct.

1309
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:30,040
In an email?

1310
01:39:30,740 --> 01:39:30,860
Yeah.

1311
01:39:30,860 --> 01:39:31,800
Like in a written form?

1312
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:32,860
Yes.

1313
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:33,940
Like actual evidence?

1314
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:35,700
Yes.

1315
01:39:35,700 --> 01:39:35,860
Okay.

1316
01:39:41,180 --> 01:39:47,680
So we just hope this is it, right? We don't want to jinx ourselves, but it is, you know.

1317
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:55,140
These are those things that we have zero control of, and we're at their mercy without you.

1318
01:39:55,180 --> 01:39:57,120
Let's hold all these until we get it.

1319
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,980
So I just think that, you know, we're...

1320
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,160
No full, there's been no other requests other than this one, so we're always doing our best to comply. Absolutely.

1321
01:40:08,620 --> 01:40:22,360
Okay. I did have one question, just as a clarifying matter, I think, as a legal matter. So this latter, actually I have two questions. The latter, there's three sections of the code that are being amended on the bottom one.

1322
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:29,940
Am I the reading this correctly that says by right means example is that how I should be reading it?

1323
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:33,360
Yes, okay, so anything by right means no, so you go.

1324
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,240
Okay cool and then in the first section this says

1325
01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:50,310
this portion is when there is a shortfall in the lower income rena component then this applies

1326
01:40:50,310 --> 01:41:07,150
is the converse also true, if there is not a shortfall in the rena for the lower, sorry, for the lower income bracket of the rena requirement that then this would not apply.

1327
01:41:07,970 --> 01:41:09,110
Is that also true?

1328
01:41:10,010 --> 01:41:15,880
There is a shortfall. That's why this language is in there. I'm sorry.

1329
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,560
There already is a shortfall identified, which is why this language is in.

1330
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:24,400
There's a shortfall in what we approve for lower income zoning.

1331
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,780
It's I think it's from previous sites if I recall.

1332
01:41:30,380 --> 01:41:35,040
It's it's carry over sites from other from past housing elements.

1333
01:41:35,860 --> 01:41:41,180
So this this language is applicable presuming that housing development has 20%

1334
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:43,980
affordable at lower incomes.

1335
01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:49,780
Okay, maybe like let's let's bring it up a level.

1336
01:41:50,860 --> 01:41:57,840
If, yeah, let's take clean off the, off the top, but if there were no short, short, short,

1337
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:00,180
fall, then this would not apply.

1338
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:01,640
That would have not been necessary.

1339
01:42:02,620 --> 01:42:07,020
So we could have this language in here, and if there's no short fall, then this provision wouldn't

1340
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:07,500
kick in.

1341
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:07,960
Correct.

1342
01:42:08,460 --> 01:42:08,640
Okay.

1343
01:42:08,820 --> 01:42:09,980
That was my question.

1344
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:10,960
Let me go up.

1345
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,500
That's all I got.

1346
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:12,480
Anyone else have questions?

1347
01:42:14,420 --> 01:42:14,580
Okay.

1348
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:15,560
Public comment?

1349
01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:17,800
Oh, wait, I think there,

1350
01:42:20,090 --> 01:42:20,750
that's something else.

1351
01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:20,970
Okay.

1352
01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:23,770
We're going to sing none.

1353
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:24,930
I will close public comments.

1354
01:42:25,850 --> 01:42:29,250
I think you, I already opened the public hearing.

1355
01:42:29,630 --> 01:42:30,650
Took public comment.

1356
01:42:33,310 --> 01:42:38,450
Now it's, we conducted the public hearing, accepted any testimony.

1357
01:42:39,290 --> 01:42:40,750
I will close the public hearing.

1358
01:42:41,950 --> 01:42:46,310
And now we need emotion.

1359
01:42:48,250 --> 01:42:50,010
Would anyone like to move this one again?

1360
01:42:50,850 --> 01:43:02,810
I'll make a motion to introduce what it's functionally the type the title of the subject.

1361
01:43:05,930 --> 01:43:11,830
I'll make a motion to introduce an ordinance amending the Clayton Municipal Code Subsection.

1362
01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:14,050
Do I have to read the whole thing?

1363
01:43:14,650 --> 01:43:18,110
I do, okay, 17.36.079,

1364
01:43:18,370 --> 01:43:21,030
to chapter 17.36 general regulations

1365
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:24,810
of title 17 zoning to add specific language,

1366
01:43:25,150 --> 01:43:26,570
allowing certain affordable housing

1367
01:43:26,570 --> 01:43:28,570
by right and defining by right.

1368
01:43:30,050 --> 01:43:30,530
I'll second.

1369
01:43:35,860 --> 01:43:36,940
Councilmember DS?

1370
01:43:37,460 --> 01:43:38,160
Yes.

1371
01:43:38,540 --> 01:43:39,500
Councilmember Tillman?

1372
01:43:39,740 --> 01:43:39,880
I.

1373
01:43:40,660 --> 01:43:41,520
Councilmember Tupiano?

1374
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:42,160
Yes.

1375
01:43:42,420 --> 01:43:43,200
Vice Mayor Nia?

1376
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:43,640
Yes.

1377
01:43:43,820 --> 01:43:44,400
Mayor Juan?

1378
01:43:44,700 --> 01:43:45,100
Aye.

1379
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:48,110
Yeah, I have it in the motion, is the doctor with the vote of 5-0.

1380
01:43:51,740 --> 01:43:52,360
No question.

1381
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:52,880
Thank you.

1382
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,400
Craig, I want to ask you.

1383
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:06,480
If we get more affordable apartments in town that you're aware of, does that reduce our count?

1384
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,780
And I'm talking about diamond tariffs.

1385
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:12,280
Those are now affordable.

1386
01:44:13,810 --> 01:44:18,230
In fact, the county is placing people there.

1387
01:44:18,930 --> 01:44:25,910
The way I understand it is that there's a, in this, during this period, we're

1388
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:28,990
booked for 570 new housing units.

1389
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:38,770
So just because it's changed from one, one type, income level to another, does not change

1390
01:44:38,770 --> 01:44:41,490
the amount of housing that we need to provide.

1391
01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:43,430
Is that answer your question?

1392
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:49,430
you have to write, would it, would it change in the future like in five years that we have to do this again?

1393
01:44:51,110 --> 01:44:52,630
I have found it then.

1394
01:44:54,860 --> 01:44:56,700
Where are you saying it's supposed to be new housing?

1395
01:44:57,260 --> 01:44:57,540
New.

1396
01:44:58,060 --> 01:44:58,420
New.

1397
01:44:59,540 --> 01:44:59,720
Okay.

1398
01:45:00,780 --> 01:45:14,280
Okay. Thank you. All right. Now I'm moving on to item 8A. This is reviewing the F-206 budget status, consider approval, F-207 budget revisions and reserve options.

1399
01:45:17,130 --> 01:45:20,590
Who's kicking us off? Mr. Zanir.

1400
01:45:21,630 --> 01:45:29,290
Thank you very much. So we have provided the council and the members or the community who are here.

1401
01:45:29,290 --> 01:45:38,590
of revised presentation for today in order to address a concern that the budget status update

1402
01:45:38,590 --> 01:45:40,990
for 26th the end of year calculations.

1403
01:45:40,990 --> 01:45:47,670
I was not comfortable with those that were provided last week, so I'm going to bring those

1404
01:45:47,670 --> 01:45:54,910
back at a future meeting just the end of year calculations were wrong, I want to make them

1405
01:45:54,910 --> 01:45:55,310
right.

1406
01:45:56,030 --> 01:45:57,770
I want to make them as accurate as I can.

1407
01:45:57,770 --> 01:46:04,090
there are rather complex calculation and so I didn't feel comfortable presenting those today.

1408
01:46:05,230 --> 01:46:12,170
In this in this particular venue, just noting that the other statistics in terms of what we had

1409
01:46:12,170 --> 01:46:18,290
for an adopted budget, what we had for an adjusted budget and where we are as of March 31st,

1410
01:46:18,290 --> 01:46:21,830
they're all accurate. It is a question just of those year-end

1411
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:25,690
numbers that weren't quite correct.

1412
01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:32,810
So that still leaves us some proposed budget revisions for FY27 to talk about today.

1413
01:46:33,210 --> 01:46:40,590
The status of the fund balance and reserves, as well as the options for 27 budget augmentations,

1414
01:46:40,750 --> 01:46:42,490
we'll still cover all of those today.

1415
01:46:43,090 --> 01:46:48,690
And then the recommended actions at the end would be to provide some direction on potential

1416
01:46:48,690 --> 01:46:58,850
Reserved funded budget augmentations for FY27 and then the plan would be to come back on April 21st to review those

1417
01:46:58,850 --> 01:47:08,230
year-to-date and end of your budget statuses for you once I can get comfortable with those numbers and then also consider approval of the budget

1418
01:47:08,230 --> 01:47:16,930
Revisions that you might also make tonight with those augmentations for 27 as well as the ones that we'll be presenting the seeding

1419
01:47:18,500 --> 01:47:25,140
So, starting with fiscal year adopted general fund budget with suggested revisions.

1420
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:34,680
What I show here is the adjusted budget that we're recommending would reduce the deficit

1421
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:44,380
for fiscal year 27 from $670,000 down to $345,000.

1422
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,740
We worked really hard to try to get it lower than that,

1423
01:47:46,740 --> 01:47:50,520
But this was the best we could do.

1424
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,080
And in the final column to the right,

1425
01:47:53,260 --> 01:47:59,940
I showed the differences about $28,000 in less revenue.

1426
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,520
A reduction in salary and benefits of almost 200,000,

1427
01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:08,180
a reduction in service and supplies of 160,000.

1428
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,440
And so that gets what makes up the difference

1429
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:15,100
between what was adopted a year ago in June.

1430
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:18,960
And we're making the recommendations today.

1431
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:27,980
In the packet at attachment B was all the detail for all how all that broke down and what those specific changes are for FY27.

1432
01:48:30,980 --> 01:48:35,500
Some of those are just to kind of look at in in large kind of chunks.

1433
01:48:36,780 --> 01:48:39,000
Some of those revenue sources are no longer available.

1434
01:48:39,340 --> 01:48:42,420
We've commented before about the ending of our PTTF.

1435
01:48:42,420 --> 01:48:53,520
as from the successor agency that was earlier this year, finally brought to an end, and so those resources are going to be available.

1436
01:48:54,600 --> 01:49:08,440
Revenue growth is slowing, and when I talk about revenue here, both in, we're seeing it in sales tax and we're seeing it in the growth rate of property tax are both slowing.

1437
01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:14,660
And, you know, we've always calculated or assumed about a 3% growth rate on those.

1438
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:22,260
It's probably down around 2,7, 2,6%, 2,6% year-over-year that we're looking at now.

1439
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:27,860
And so that's a little bit of a concern, especially in those two areas, because we don't

1440
01:49:27,860 --> 01:49:30,660
have any other funding sources other than those.

1441
01:49:30,860 --> 01:49:33,700
And so it really begins to create that.

1442
01:49:33,700 --> 01:49:47,180
A lot of the uncertainty we're seeing in the world today, whether it's oil pricing, people shifting away from buying commodities and buying other goods and buying experiences like restaurants,

1443
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:53,040
is really slowing down as people are having to put more into their gas tank.

1444
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,260
So that has some concern for us.

1445
01:49:57,260 --> 01:49:59,920
the reworking of position.

1446
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,220
That we've done over the past year is creating ongoing savings, but those costs are still increasing.

1447
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,540
And so, you know, we see that being played out in the general fund.

1448
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:18,800
And then in 27, the IT subscription costs are going to drop significantly due to the civic plus.

1449
01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:29,100
And we had outlined that prior for you as a council and to the public around the cost savings associated with eliminating a whole bunch of software tools that we will no longer need,

1450
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:31,980
because we've brought it all under one umbrella

1451
01:50:31,980 --> 01:50:36,300
and got significant discounting on pricing for that.

1452
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,780
Just a couple of mentions about LMD,

1453
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:43,140
other special revenue funds, the other four million dollars

1454
01:50:43,140 --> 01:50:46,400
that are the city council's results of four.

1455
01:50:47,220 --> 01:50:49,360
They're going to continue to be balanced in 27.

1456
01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:53,040
So we spent a lot of time focusing on reducing

1457
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,720
that deficit in the general fund from 67,

1458
01:50:56,660 --> 01:51:02,520
$667, $667,000 down to the $345, but all those other ones will continue to be balanced

1459
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:10,140
going forward, and looking at those, the budget changes inside of those are pretty minimal.

1460
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:11,600
We haven't done a lot.

1461
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:16,320
We didn't feel like we needed to do a lot of changes for those other special revenue funds

1462
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:17,600
or the LMD.

1463
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:25,700
Moving to fund year-end reserves, this is a breakdown, and these are the numbers that were

1464
01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:30,020
provided as part of the audit for each of the few last few years.

1465
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:34,040
But when you break those down into the different components sections,

1466
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,340
they all get rolled up in the aquifer.

1467
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:42,040
But here, we broke them out into the general fund, LMD,

1468
01:51:42,260 --> 01:51:46,460
as well as then kind of the aggregate of all the other special revenue funds.

1469
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,220
You see those total amounts.

1470
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,700
So if you look at fiscal year 25,

1471
01:51:51,700 --> 01:52:09,300
You see where at 6.9 million dollars in the general fund, about three and a half thousand dollars in the LED and about ten and a half million in the all the other special revenue funds combined.

1472
01:52:10,820 --> 01:52:14,860
And that's numbers are down slightly but not dramatically.

1473
01:52:14,860 --> 01:52:24,140
I think they continued to hold a lot of value there, and these, as Mr. Lothus mentioned earlier,

1474
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,000
a lot of times these are just the result of not spending money.

1475
01:52:29,940 --> 01:52:34,840
And this isn't necessarily an intentional practice to put money in the bank,

1476
01:52:35,380 --> 01:52:41,300
but when you don't spend money on things like deferred maintenance, and you don't spend money on keeping things up,

1477
01:52:41,300 --> 01:52:48,220
and you keep, you have low salaries and you end up saving money at the end and that goes into a reserve fund.

1478
01:52:48,860 --> 01:52:54,060
And we know the value of having a savings account and having a reserve to rely on for emergencies.

1479
01:52:55,480 --> 01:53:03,520
And so the real question here and you've made a policy statement about 40% of revenue as a target reserve fund.

1480
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:10,680
I think that's a really admirable and much larger than in any other jurisdiction I've ever worked in as a policy.

1481
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:16,160
I've known other jurisdictions have more money than that, but as a policy, that's a pretty

1482
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:16,820
high policy.

1483
01:53:17,580 --> 01:53:22,480
So you've got some room here to consider other possibilities.

1484
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:30,980
We did some thinking about amongst staff, amongst leadership, thinking through what would

1485
01:53:30,980 --> 01:53:37,460
some of those kinds of things look like, and this is a list of potential one time budget requests

1486
01:53:37,460 --> 01:53:44,820
that could be thought of as a good use of reserve funding that we just showed in the last chart

1487
01:53:44,820 --> 01:53:51,900
and some general cost estimates, but you know $100,000 on a sidewalk safety program,

1488
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:59,500
making sure the trip and fall hazards, some of the route damage that's being caused to our

1489
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:06,480
sidewalks, eliminating as many of those as possible to reduce the risk of injury and to make

1490
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:11,280
actually the city more walkable, just as a, as a, as a, as a nice benefit.

1491
01:54:12,620 --> 01:54:18,260
The exterior paint, we're about to spend a chunk of money here on the interior of the library,

1492
01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:22,380
but one possibility would be to look at the exterior paint of this building.

1493
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,480
We gave a rust estimate of 125,000.

1494
01:54:28,460 --> 01:54:30,140
Expanding the baseball fields,

1495
01:54:32,340 --> 01:54:34,960
which could potentially be less than the half a million dollars,

1496
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:42,680
if we work with local folks who would donate their time and material to help build out those

1497
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:48,500
ball parks, baseball fields, which would allow more young people to participate in the sports

1498
01:54:48,500 --> 01:54:55,520
programs and enjoy that and families and whatnot. So this would, I think this would get us

1499
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,920
two additional one, one additional dimension. Sorry, one additional.

1500
01:55:04,420 --> 01:55:09,320
So, Lily has developed a plan. They approach the city a few years ago.

1501
01:55:10,740 --> 01:55:18,340
To go diagonal, and you can double. I met with him to talk, because we talked about possible stadium lights.

1502
01:55:18,900 --> 01:55:29,160
And they said, don't do lights. We'd rather have you invest money in an additional field, because that'll multiply how many more games and teams we can support.

1503
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:35,080
Little League in this community is doing fantastic, they're well over 600 kids this year,

1504
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:36,800
so that's amazing.

1505
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,160
They are willing to partner with us both financially and with sweat equity in developing

1506
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:45,540
this field and putting boots on the ground.

1507
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:51,240
The only thing they ask in return is if we move forward with this plan is that one specific

1508
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,340
field they would have first right to during the league season.

1509
01:55:57,620 --> 01:56:06,400
Does this taking account both of the, both of the little, both of the organizations that have youth-based fall in town?

1510
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:07,420
There's two, right?

1511
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:08,720
There are two.

1512
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,420
So, is it just one that's offering the partner?

1513
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,940
That's the only one I've spoken to thus far.

1514
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:21,460
I don't think the other organization has the numbers or the finances at this time,

1515
01:56:21,620 --> 01:56:23,660
but I will invite them to the table.

1516
01:56:23,660 --> 01:56:25,720
And you should not make that assumption.

1517
01:56:27,660 --> 01:56:32,540
And then there's also the adult soccer group that has contacted me.

1518
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:37,020
I happen to know the person who's interested in the lower fields and doing some renovations.

1519
01:56:38,900 --> 01:56:39,160
So maybe.

1520
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:48,000
So also on this list is some tech and officer safety equipment for the police department.

1521
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,560
Firearms and things like that have expiration dates.

1522
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:57,340
So, and so we ought to be cognizant of that.

1523
01:56:57,420 --> 01:57:00,840
This is one estimate for some of these.

1524
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,800
Additional some signage for endeavor hall.

1525
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,340
So you can see it from the corner of Oak and Center Street.

1526
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,340
Instead of just on Center Street there,

1527
01:57:11,620 --> 01:57:12,520
might be really helpful.

1528
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,040
And I guess it will prevent anybody from going up the Oak Street

1529
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:16,520
off ramp.

1530
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:20,900
But at least they'll know where endeavor hall is when they're going

1531
01:57:20,900 --> 01:57:27,740
the other direction. Then looking at a potential five-year service contract for eight more

1532
01:57:27,740 --> 01:57:35,520
cameras for the for grove and CCP. We do, as you are well aware, have a fair amount of

1533
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:42,080
vandalism, kind of just stupid stuff happening at these parks. Sorry if that offends anybody,

1534
01:57:42,820 --> 01:57:48,020
but it's just kind of, you know, kicking boards out of the gazebo and stuff like this that

1535
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:50,560
really would be helpful to have cameras

1536
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,880
and some of those resources to be able to

1537
01:57:54,540 --> 01:57:56,660
hopefully prevent the stuff from happening.

1538
01:57:57,340 --> 01:57:59,680
But if not, at least give us a sense

1539
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:01,800
about who the person might have been

1540
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,160
and how do we find them and hold them responsible.

1541
01:58:04,940 --> 01:58:08,440
So this is about responsibility as much as anything else.

1542
01:58:09,180 --> 01:58:11,180
But we've got an estimate on that

1543
01:58:11,180 --> 01:58:14,220
and would probably save us at least some money

1544
01:58:14,220 --> 01:58:15,600
and hopefully in repairs.

1545
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,560
City Hall security updates.

1546
01:58:19,900 --> 01:58:23,240
So there was an assessment done by professional assessment,

1547
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,560
professional public safety firm that looks

1548
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:31,360
at City Hall and other public buildings and identifying

1549
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,700
things where we're very open city hall as you know,

1550
01:58:34,700 --> 01:58:35,420
which we like.

1551
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,500
We all like that, but we don't have easy ways

1552
01:58:39,500 --> 01:58:43,300
to, for example, even contact the police department,

1553
01:58:43,300 --> 01:58:47,260
which is one floor below where a lot of the staff work,

1554
01:58:47,660 --> 01:58:48,800
which is quite open.

1555
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,460
And so some things like safety buttons

1556
01:58:52,460 --> 01:58:58,100
that would call the emergency folks downstairs

1557
01:58:58,100 --> 01:59:01,160
and help us get responses for those things.

1558
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,440
So that there's some adjustments that are there.

1559
01:59:06,140 --> 01:59:09,400
The chief is here to address more particular questions

1560
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:10,520
you might have on that.

1561
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:19,380
Another one of the items that is something that we don't really have a current funding source for is the emergency operations plan.

1562
01:59:20,700 --> 01:59:27,800
And the last one was done in 2018 since then we've passed a new hazard mitigation plan for as far as the general plan.

1563
01:59:28,740 --> 01:59:38,020
But we haven't updated the actual city emergency operations plan and staff has changed and what happens there.

1564
01:59:38,020 --> 01:59:41,740
and then that responding to the things that issues identified

1565
01:59:41,740 --> 01:59:45,200
and the hazard mitigation plan will be key on that.

1566
01:59:45,820 --> 01:59:47,580
GIS, it's already in the CIP,

1567
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:52,040
but we really need to get a contractor to collect

1568
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,400
and organize some of the layers.

1569
01:59:53,780 --> 01:59:57,060
Somebody who was working with the former city engineer

1570
01:59:58,100 --> 01:59:59,980
have been working with...

1571
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:21,220
With them, he had done a lot of work, preliminary work, ground work, collecting things. He's made a proposal for $18,000 to not only put all those items in a usable shape, but also do a needs assessment with staff so we could figure out what are the other GIS needs that we have for layers that would be most useful. So something that's out there.

1572
02:00:21,220 --> 02:00:26,980
Then we also know kind of one time are going to be those budget deficits that we've identified

1573
02:00:26,980 --> 02:00:36,180
or will be identifying for 2627 and 28. Those could be used could use one time funding request.

1574
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:41,660
There's also a small number of ongoing budget requests that we've identified.

1575
02:00:42,620 --> 02:00:46,080
One is the expansion of library hours.

1576
02:00:46,940 --> 02:00:53,520
If we wanted to add a net news six hours to the existing 40 hours, it would be about $70,000.

1577
02:00:54,500 --> 02:01:01,520
If we wanted to add another 12 hours to the library schedule, and there's a set schedule when those 12 hours go.

1578
02:01:02,660 --> 02:01:10,380
So it's expanding the number of hours, not the number of days, just to answer that.

1579
02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:18,260
But that would be 111,000, and then adding 16 hours would be $230,000.

1580
02:01:19,220 --> 02:01:25,540
A different piece of the tech and officer safety for the police department is the

1581
02:01:25,540 --> 02:01:28,720
body-worn cameras are now at end of life.

1582
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:34,840
They're failing a number of our failing, and they're past their warranty date.

1583
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:38,580
And so, as well as adding vehicle camera system,

1584
02:01:39,700 --> 02:01:42,820
chief went and identified a package deal

1585
02:01:42,820 --> 02:01:45,700
to include and consolidate all of those contracts,

1586
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:50,080
and it would come out to about $37,000, $38,000.

1587
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,760
And that would lock us in for 10 years.

1588
02:01:54,020 --> 02:01:55,820
Toward the end of that, it goes up slightly.

1589
02:01:55,900 --> 02:01:59,780
It goes up to like $45,000 in the out years.

1590
02:02:00,220 --> 02:02:03,580
But it's a pretty sweet deal, at least in the early years,

1591
02:02:03,580 --> 02:02:06,760
by combining a bunch of contracts we're saving quite a bit.

1592
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:07,860
He could talk more about that.

1593
02:02:08,140 --> 02:02:11,420
And then the last ongoing item is a permit tracking software.

1594
02:02:12,940 --> 02:02:15,540
It's very difficult in this organization

1595
02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:18,560
without a permit tracking software

1596
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,400
to track progress on permits.

1597
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:24,560
But the thing that's really killing us on this

1598
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,920
is that we don't have a very good way

1599
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,140
to then take the hours that Craig

1600
02:02:29,140 --> 02:02:31,600
and others are working on projects and permits

1601
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:37,980
and turning that into a billable hours to charge back to the person seeking the permit.

1602
02:02:38,740 --> 02:02:41,200
And so we had the conversation about the fee schedule earlier.

1603
02:02:41,540 --> 02:02:45,920
This is the other side of that that once we get the fee set at the correct level.

1604
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:52,580
This is the way to be able to track progress toward permits and then do the billable hours for them.

1605
02:02:53,180 --> 02:02:58,680
So for this week, $6,000 would get us two seats a year in a cello.

1606
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:06,120
And we're looking just at a satellite, it's kind of the, it's the large, what is it?

1607
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:12,460
The Cat and Lack version, we'd love to find something simpler, less expensive and we're continuing to quest after that.

1608
02:03:12,700 --> 02:03:20,540
There may even be an opportunity within Civic Plus to add this, but as a round number as a placeholder, this is probably as good as we can do.

1609
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:24,140
So those were some suggestions we came up with.

1610
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:29,880
You may have a whole bunch of your own that you're, you know, desire, you would like to do as well.

1611
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,580
But I just have some questions on the one that you went over.

1612
02:03:33,780 --> 02:03:34,340
Yeah, okay.

1613
02:03:34,340 --> 02:03:36,500
I don't know if it's a proper time to ask it.

1614
02:03:36,820 --> 02:03:38,200
Do you want me to wrap up real quick?

1615
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:39,040
There's the last slide.

1616
02:03:39,260 --> 02:03:40,040
And then we can go to question.

1617
02:03:40,180 --> 02:03:40,780
Yeah, I got my question.

1618
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,520
What I really want to emphasize is this though.

1619
02:03:44,180 --> 02:03:46,560
That still, this is not changing.

1620
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:51,600
the overall financial position remains really sound and really stable here in Clayton.

1621
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:59,920
This is, this is, you know, we're actually very insulated from a lot of what's happening

1622
02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:00,860
in other jurisdictions.

1623
02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:06,900
You may be aware of neighboring cities that are having real financial struggles where people

1624
02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:14,020
are talking about layoffs and that's significant and we are not in that position.

1625
02:04:14,020 --> 02:04:19,740
We do have reserves and it's a really question about how those reserves get used, right?

1626
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:32,980
And so, you know, if we, if we look at 27, we could take that deficit and cut it in half with the recommended adjustments that we provided you in detail at attachment B.

1627
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:36,440
Fundbalanced reserves remain strong.

1628
02:04:37,900 --> 02:04:39,340
We can't emphasize that enough.

1629
02:04:39,340 --> 02:04:44,200
We know how we got here the question is what do we do want to do go on forward?

1630
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:51,460
I think as a city and so the fun balance at the end of twenty six is likely to be around six million dollars

1631
02:04:51,460 --> 02:04:58,040
But that reserve policy minimum is two point two eight on on that for that for the share and for next year

1632
02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:59,980
It's slightly different a little

1633
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:07,100
Lower reserves and a little bit hot, the minimum would go up because our revenues go up.

1634
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:15,160
So that becomes key. And then we found about $2.7 million in one time and about between

1635
02:05:16,380 --> 02:05:23,860
$10275,000 in ongoing expenses that you might want to consider funding from some of those

1636
02:05:23,860 --> 02:05:25,980
Now I'm done.

1637
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:30,460
Okay, well, I'm going to address my last question now.

1638
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:32,540
And that's when you came to the fund balance.

1639
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:36,260
And you say revenues appear to be stronger in

1640
02:05:36,260 --> 02:05:36,800
Outer years.

1641
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,400
Is that what you said?

1642
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,200
Actually, what I was saying about the current

1643
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:42,880
Economic conditions, conditions.

1644
02:05:43,220 --> 02:05:48,340
I think I'm a little nervous in the short term about revenues

1645
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,700
just because of the sources for them.

1646
02:05:52,600 --> 02:06:01,060
I won't say, I think our growth rate for revenues at between two and a half and three percent.

1647
02:06:01,380 --> 02:06:02,840
I'm hoping we get there.

1648
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:04,820
I'm hoping we're going to be able to get to two and a half.

1649
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:07,140
I'm afraid they might be a little lower than that.

1650
02:06:07,140 --> 02:06:08,540
I'm not trying to scare anybody.

1651
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:12,220
I'm not trying to, but I'm also not sugar coating it either.

1652
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:17,880
So you're hitting on a point that had been brought up by at least one or two other individuals.

1653
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:23,800
in terms of the fact that we've authorized a utilization of 40 percent of the reserve.

1654
02:06:24,140 --> 02:06:27,660
Right. It doesn't appear that we're even coming anywhere near that. Correct.

1655
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:28,700
That is correct.

1656
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:36,900
So, and yet they get, as we use them, aren't they being replenished?

1657
02:06:37,460 --> 02:06:37,760
They're not?

1658
02:06:39,380 --> 02:06:43,760
They're not. They're some interest being drawn because they're invested.

1659
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:52,040
And we're in treasury bills and they're running around 3.8% to 4% gains on their value.

1660
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:58,380
But we take that money and we allocate it into the budget on a quarterly basis.

1661
02:06:58,740 --> 02:06:59,860
We don't take it out of the fund.

1662
02:07:00,020 --> 02:07:04,460
We leave it there so it's continuing to accrue interest and good.

1663
02:07:05,140 --> 02:07:13,040
But we've from a booking standpoint, we've booked it into the budget and we allocated it out based on the source of those funds.

1664
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:20,360
And so, to say it's growing, not unless you get something new, a big new source of money.

1665
02:07:21,060 --> 02:07:22,320
So, and those aren't coming anymore.

1666
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:29,760
So, ARPA is not happening again, you know, those kinds of chunks that were put into reserves

1667
02:07:30,500 --> 02:07:35,540
by this council, and wisely so, if you didn't have something to spend it on, might as well

1668
02:07:35,540 --> 02:07:41,860
save it for when you're ready, so it's, but it's not growing in that big sense.

1669
02:07:41,860 --> 02:08:08,760
Okay, well right now, yes, we're going through a very challenging time nationally on on on revenues, but at some point, I mean, I don't I don't Mister want and supervises a rather large entity, what do you see on on the horizon out there is there going to be some turn and at some point revenues will increase and and replenish the things that we have spent money on.

1670
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,940
No, you don't see it.

1671
02:08:11,700 --> 02:08:17,100
I mean, if I could really predict it, I probably wouldn't be in this trial.

1672
02:08:19,220 --> 02:08:26,020
But, you know, it's kind of a clean toss, but I would say, if you look at our source of funding,

1673
02:08:26,740 --> 02:08:27,840
yes, it's generally property tax.

1674
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:29,300
Properly tax.

1675
02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:30,300
Give it.

1676
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:30,740
Yeah, give it.

1677
02:08:30,740 --> 02:08:32,000
He freezes your rear cap.

1678
02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:35,160
They're strong inflationary pressure.

1679
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:41,800
inflation usually only matches one way. It exceeds revenue growth, so unless something

1680
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:48,540
very significant change into the California landscape, we'd probably face certain challenges.

1681
02:08:49,740 --> 02:09:00,960
Okay, now let me get to some of these specific things as opposed to overall. Back to the police

1682
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:01,580
firearms.

1683
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:09,220
To find that, do the officers have their own firearms or is the police department giving

1684
02:09:09,220 --> 02:09:13,040
them firearms or utilizing department-owned firearms?

1685
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,680
Thank you.

1686
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:20,200
Mayor, Council, staff.

1687
02:09:21,020 --> 02:09:29,440
So on for firearms, we purchased the duty firearms, which we issued to officers back in 2014.

1688
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:37,200
So they're currently 12 years old, so they've exceeded their life expectancy, and they're still,

1689
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:41,680
we still maintain them, we still make sure they're safe and all that, but there's a certain

1690
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:43,080
life expectancy to the firearm.

1691
02:09:43,740 --> 02:09:45,960
So we're at the point now where those have to be replaced.

1692
02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:52,280
Okay, and I guess my question is, when did we switch from having the officer provide their own

1693
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,640
firearm versus the city providing it?

1694
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:59,960
a long time ago in the 30 years ago, the city provides a line, a 19-9.

1695
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:10,940
City provided mine in 1990. Yeah, okay. And that's typically historically when most agencies started doing that.

1696
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:23,740
We still have a policy where police officers can provide their own firearm under certain parameters. However, we saw an obligation to make a duty firearm available to officers.

1697
02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:31,980
Should there be an issue? Should there be something where their firearm goes out of commission? We have a duty to make sure that we have sufficient firearms for all officers.

1698
02:10:31,980 --> 02:10:37,340
I understand, I see me tactical here, would it amplify on that alone?

1699
02:10:37,380 --> 02:10:38,140
Sure, no problem.

1700
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,000
So a couple of things we need to address.

1701
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:45,720
One is we had a year, a couple years ago we updated our ballistic

1702
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,600
helmets to the most current models and safety standards.

1703
02:10:49,480 --> 02:10:55,120
One of the gaps we identified is that we don't have proper face protection

1704
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:57,260
for those ballistic helmets.

1705
02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,140
So we identified that as a need.

1706
02:10:59,140 --> 02:11:06,220
So that's one of the issues the other is spike strips for ending pursuits, safely ending pursuits.

1707
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:11,240
We currently have one mechanism, possibly two mechanisms that we have in place.

1708
02:11:11,780 --> 02:11:13,200
They're carried in the supervisor vehicle.

1709
02:11:13,540 --> 02:11:17,980
We don't have those available to all the officers and their rather cumbersome.

1710
02:11:18,500 --> 02:11:24,960
So this is to update that, upgrade that so that every officer has that capability in their patrol vehicle.

1711
02:11:26,140 --> 02:11:30,400
And then also, yeah, those are the safety items.

1712
02:11:31,140 --> 02:11:35,940
What's the mobile data for low mileage police vehicle?

1713
02:11:36,180 --> 02:11:39,540
Yeah, so we currently we have another police vehicle

1714
02:11:39,540 --> 02:11:43,380
to 2019 when we purchased our new vehicles,

1715
02:11:43,620 --> 02:11:49,060
we used some of the equipment out of that to equip the brand new patrol vehicle.

1716
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:51,740
This vehicle is still viable.

1717
02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:54,180
I think it has something around 40,000 miles.

1718
02:11:54,180 --> 02:12:00,520
still an excellent shape, so we've identified a need to equip it with a mobile data computer

1719
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:05,220
and mount, and make sure that it's a fully functional patrol vehicle, so we need it, so

1720
02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:10,240
should we have vehicles go down or have one involved in a collision or something like that?

1721
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:17,500
Okay, and then the other area is the grove and community park cameras. You're going to put it

1722
02:12:17,500 --> 02:12:21,880
because right now the community park doesn't have any cameras, the correct correct. Okay, so

1723
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,700
And then the ones that are at the Grove Park,

1724
02:12:25,220 --> 02:12:27,860
those are outdated, something not working,

1725
02:12:28,140 --> 02:12:30,920
no replacement parts, and all those things that go in.

1726
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:33,440
Yeah, so the Grove, I'll address that first.

1727
02:12:34,020 --> 02:12:35,220
The cameras are working.

1728
02:12:36,140 --> 02:12:38,360
We have identified that they're insufficient, though,

1729
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:42,100
in order to either conduct follow-up investigations

1730
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:47,860
or to accurately identify issues going on in the park.

1731
02:12:48,380 --> 02:12:50,820
There's no technology overlay on the camera.

1732
02:12:50,820 --> 02:12:58,260
other essentially dumb cameras and it takes significant amount of staff time if we have an incident

1733
02:12:58,260 --> 02:13:02,140
that occurs, let's say over a weekend or something like that and we're investigating

1734
02:13:02,140 --> 02:13:08,260
that we have it's basically one for one we have to have an officer sit there and go hour by

1735
02:13:08,260 --> 02:13:17,940
hour going through video feed which is very cumbersome and not dependable in the long term.

1736
02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:20,860
So we identified that as a very productive, right?

1737
02:13:20,860 --> 02:13:22,060
Yeah, and not productive, yes.

1738
02:13:22,660 --> 02:13:26,260
So we identified that as a significant gap,

1739
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:31,480
especially given the prominence of the Grove Park in our community.

1740
02:13:32,060 --> 02:13:34,340
And then the other is a Clayton Community Park.

1741
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:37,600
It's a valuable asset in our community.

1742
02:13:38,140 --> 02:13:42,560
And we have currently, we have no ability to either monitor

1743
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,640
or to go back and investigate if something were to occur

1744
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:52,300
at that or to see what type of traffic is going in and out, and that's a significant exposure.

1745
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:58,580
Yeah, because that has appeared on a number of problem areas back in the past, the well before,

1746
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:00,440
both Chris and you over here.

1747
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:03,520
I know that there's been issues up there and that would be very helpful.

1748
02:14:04,660 --> 02:14:09,480
The last thing I had is on the updating of the emergency operations plan.

1749
02:14:09,820 --> 02:14:11,560
Glad to hear that finally happen.

1750
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:19,480
That's one thing where it's one of those books that are on the shelf and never gets looked at.

1751
02:14:20,460 --> 02:14:26,500
And there's some real critical issues and based upon the just the evolution of time and where we are today.

1752
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:28,420
So compliments on that.

1753
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:28,780
Thank you.

1754
02:14:32,130 --> 02:14:33,950
Other questions on the...

1755
02:14:33,950 --> 02:14:35,130
Did you conclude your presentation?

1756
02:14:37,860 --> 02:14:38,400
I'm sorry.

1757
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:45,200
Yeah, I think what we were looking for perhaps tonight and depending on how you'd like to proceed.

1758
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:53,120
You will recall back to the budget hearing where we had an attachment that allowed you to share with us,

1759
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:58,700
give us some direction on which of these or other items you would like to add.

1760
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,560
We can collect those, see that there's consensus, and then we can add those in and bring them back

1761
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:11,800
with a final set of budget adjustments that would include all of these at the April 21 meeting.

1762
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:22,720
Skylar's got that spreadsheet queued up and ready to go. If you want to, but this list is available,

1763
02:15:22,860 --> 02:15:26,340
Skylar's ready to do that. If we want to switch over that, that was what I was going to suggest

1764
02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:28,860
would be our next step for the process.

1765
02:15:28,860 --> 02:15:39,190
to help me understand on the expenditures, salaries and benefits, you have 190,000 less.

1766
02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:40,750
Is that being less?

1767
02:15:41,950 --> 02:15:46,030
On the expenses, it's 190,000 less in expenditures.

1768
02:15:46,250 --> 02:15:48,530
How did we come to this?

1769
02:15:48,730 --> 02:15:53,330
Well, I think part of that is the result of some of those staff changes that we've made,

1770
02:15:53,970 --> 02:15:58,190
where we had had some other assumptions that we saved money in a number of those.

1771
02:15:58,190 --> 02:16:00,070
And so that's really how we got that.

1772
02:16:00,950 --> 02:16:01,310
Thanks.

1773
02:16:02,110 --> 02:16:04,270
I just have a couple of things.

1774
02:16:05,430 --> 02:16:05,550
Okay.

1775
02:16:05,730 --> 02:16:06,710
Are you done?

1776
02:16:10,030 --> 02:16:14,290
So looking at library exterior paint.

1777
02:16:15,150 --> 02:16:18,150
I've never, you know, I've been sitting on the library foundation.

1778
02:16:18,270 --> 02:16:20,310
Board of Directors for four years.

1779
02:16:20,410 --> 02:16:22,070
Nobody's ever mentioned the exterior.

1780
02:16:22,830 --> 02:16:26,730
But we have a phase two and a phase three of our refresh.

1781
02:16:26,730 --> 02:16:28,750
that is completely unfunded.

1782
02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:31,130
So I would just throw that out there

1783
02:16:31,130 --> 02:16:35,090
that rather than paint the outside, use some money

1784
02:16:35,090 --> 02:16:38,750
because we have about, it's almost a million dollar gap.

1785
02:16:39,910 --> 02:16:42,810
If we were to implement everything that the county

1786
02:16:42,810 --> 02:16:45,910
and the architect are recommending in phase two and three.

1787
02:16:46,110 --> 02:16:47,050
Phase one is covered.

1788
02:16:47,550 --> 02:16:49,030
Hopefully we're gonna be starting.

1789
02:16:50,430 --> 02:16:53,650
I hate to say September, but we're hoping.

1790
02:16:53,650 --> 02:17:00,090
should be. Yes. And that is in part from money that the city is put in the foundation and the living

1791
02:17:00,090 --> 02:17:07,430
trust that the library has. The other thing is I felt we talked at one point about facility

1792
02:17:07,430 --> 02:17:13,430
rental software and I didn't see that on the list. That's part of civic plus. Oh, it is part

1793
02:17:13,430 --> 02:17:22,210
of civic plus. Okay. Check. And then the extended hours for the library and I know we've brought

1794
02:17:22,210 --> 02:17:27,330
this up several times before because it is an ongoing request every year.

1795
02:17:27,550 --> 02:17:32,630
People don't like that it's closed on Sunday and Monday and certain nights.

1796
02:17:33,710 --> 02:17:42,390
But I just think it's where we've always hesitated, correct me if I'm wrong, is that

1797
02:17:42,390 --> 02:17:50,230
to use the reserves, we need an ongoing funding source and to me that's almost better use

1798
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:57,930
with our 1% sales tax that we've been talking about so that it's sustainable and to pull it

1799
02:17:57,930 --> 02:18:03,890
out of reserve. I just I would hate to add the hours and then have to take them back if we

1800
02:18:03,890 --> 02:18:11,870
didn't have money in succeeding years. So I don't know how everybody feels about that and I know

1801
02:18:11,870 --> 02:18:16,870
we do have a pending request from the library right now, correct?

1802
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:25,510
we do. They sent it to me last late last week. I agree with you. My recommendation is this is

1803
02:18:25,510 --> 02:18:31,630
something that would be fantastic for this community to implement and extend the hours. I mean,

1804
02:18:31,710 --> 02:18:38,910
we know how heavily use this library is, but I would also recommend that we don't do that unless we have

1805
02:18:38,910 --> 02:18:44,350
additional ongoing funding to help support that versus getting to a point maybe three, four years

1806
02:18:44,350 --> 02:18:46,390
down the road where you go, just kidding.

1807
02:18:46,710 --> 02:18:48,350
We have to pull those hours away from you now

1808
02:18:48,350 --> 02:18:51,970
because we don't have the ongoing funds to support it.

1809
02:18:52,270 --> 02:18:52,790
No, good.

1810
02:18:53,470 --> 02:18:56,450
So a couple other things on my list, I'll wrap up here,

1811
02:18:58,050 --> 02:19:01,010
is I'd like to see us run the fountain every weekend.

1812
02:19:01,490 --> 02:19:04,350
I feel like I'm a broken record on the fountain.

1813
02:19:05,090 --> 02:19:06,230
And it is important.

1814
02:19:07,410 --> 02:19:09,950
I think it's a beautification project.

1815
02:19:10,390 --> 02:19:12,890
I think it looks absolutely stunning.

1816
02:19:12,890 --> 02:19:20,570
When it's on I was very disappointed. It wasn't on for Easter and I'm hoping we can have a separate discussion about that

1817
02:19:20,570 --> 02:19:28,590
But and I know that there's cost involved in running it every weekend and so maybe reserve funding is not the best

1818
02:19:28,590 --> 02:19:30,370
You know be something more sustainable

1819
02:19:31,870 --> 02:19:35,850
We talked about the baseball field and

1820
02:19:38,330 --> 02:19:44,090
The other one I had on my list, I'm hoping at some point, or we're going to come back,

1821
02:19:44,530 --> 02:19:48,510
we said this at the conclusion of all of our budget meetings last year

1822
02:19:48,510 --> 02:19:52,430
that we were going to come back and have a completely separate discussion

1823
02:19:53,530 --> 02:19:56,670
about sidewalk, repair, and paving.

1824
02:19:57,330 --> 02:19:59,770
We were not exactly sure what are paving.

1825
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:16,880
I think we had two different reports, one a little better, one a little bit worse. And then are we going to have that separately at some point, because we're good for 26, but not for 27, or 28,

1826
02:20:18,940 --> 02:20:18,940
right?

1827
02:20:21,460 --> 02:20:27,130
Yes, because we need to establish what we're going to do if we're going to stay with the every other year

1828
02:20:27,620 --> 02:20:29,940
Paving project or we're going to do every year

1829
02:20:30,740 --> 02:20:34,600
What are we willing to address in terms of that's why that $100,000

1830
02:20:36,260 --> 02:20:40,940
In the chart is to do some repairs, but it's mainly to also to do

1831
02:20:41,940 --> 02:20:47,980
Exploration of what we need to do throughout the city. We know we have non-compliant curb cuts in some areas

1832
02:20:50,260 --> 02:20:55,180
accessibility determining sidewalks that are damaging to be repaired. Are they our

1833
02:20:55,180 --> 02:20:59,740
responsibility? Is it the homeowner adjacent? Was it caused by our trees? So there's

1834
02:20:59,740 --> 02:21:06,660
some some work to be done around that area. But yeah, it certainly needs to come back and

1835
02:21:06,660 --> 02:21:13,020
be a discussion item. I would hope that we have a wonderful staff person. I keep saying that,

1836
02:21:13,020 --> 02:21:17,920
but that is the goal is to bring somebody on who,

1837
02:21:18,020 --> 02:21:19,640
this is their wheelhouse, so to speak,

1838
02:21:19,980 --> 02:21:22,460
and can lead this and make recommendations

1839
02:21:22,460 --> 02:21:26,140
to count the best way that utilize our funding

1840
02:21:26,140 --> 02:21:28,480
and an ongoing basis for both of those.

1841
02:21:29,020 --> 02:21:31,440
Because that 100,000 is just a study.

1842
02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:33,200
That's not even doing the work, right?

1843
02:21:35,500 --> 02:21:37,100
Probably close to the study.

1844
02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:39,680
There may be some residual to do some work,

1845
02:21:40,420 --> 02:21:41,800
but it's to my, you know,

1846
02:21:42,480 --> 02:21:47,720
We know pieces and parts, fine hollow, needs to be done, and our trees are destroying that.

1847
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:48,820
We have that on them.

1848
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:52,960
But how many miles of sidewalk do we have that we don't know?

1849
02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:55,720
That's kind of what we need to address.

1850
02:21:57,900 --> 02:21:58,140
All right.

1851
02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:00,280
That's all I had on my list.

1852
02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:04,640
I'm in the signage and in Denver Hall would be a nice to have, but to me,

1853
02:22:04,780 --> 02:22:05,560
8,000 dollars.

1854
02:22:05,780 --> 02:22:06,260
I don't know.

1855
02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:09,600
We'd have to look at the rest of our priorities.

1856
02:22:11,980 --> 02:22:24,200
The one thing I neglected to bring up is that you might want to go to public comment before you start considering what to put on that chart so that if you want to get some feedback for the public

1857
02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:30,200
Yeah, before you start kind of giving us direction on on possible funding programs

1858
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:38,240
I want to see if there's questions or I wanted to amplify on the running of the pump there

1859
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:46,720
of the waterfalls that we have yet, have we ever defined what it costs for our to run that

1860
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:47,740
thing?

1861
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:52,980
Because that's been one of those items that have been always, well, I think it's this.

1862
02:22:53,900 --> 02:22:59,140
So we went back, I shouldn't say wait, Dennis and Jennifer went back and looked at,

1863
02:22:59,140 --> 02:23:05,480
days that we actually ran it, looked at those bills for PG&E, which is an interesting

1864
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:12,320
process because rate fluctuates throughout the day right down to the the brass

1865
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:17,980
tasks it's four hundred dollars for eight hours for eight hours. Well that's a

1866
02:23:17,980 --> 02:23:21,680
heck of a lot less than the three hundred dollars an hour that in a former

1867
02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:24,900
occupant of your office used to tell us okay.

1868
02:23:28,970 --> 02:23:31,330
So if you were to run it every weekend

1869
02:23:31,330 --> 02:23:37,190
plus I think we figured out twelve holidays you're looking at about fifty thousand

1870
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:38,630
$1,000 a year to run that fountain.

1871
02:23:39,490 --> 02:23:39,590
Yeah.

1872
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:40,990
$400?

1873
02:23:41,550 --> 02:23:41,710
$400?

1874
02:23:42,170 --> 02:23:42,510
Correct.

1875
02:23:47,630 --> 02:23:48,630
Any other questions for staff?

1876
02:23:49,310 --> 02:23:50,110
I have some.

1877
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:58,640
I have a quick question about the, it's on the ongoing budget.

1878
02:23:58,700 --> 02:23:59,720
Request slide.

1879
02:24:01,540 --> 02:24:07,500
Chief had mentioned, and I think you did in your, I think, denested in, in your report,

1880
02:24:08,140 --> 02:24:08,840
or your presentation.

1881
02:24:09,900 --> 02:24:13,220
The, and it was at the end of life that were locked in for 10 years.

1882
02:24:13,220 --> 02:24:15,760
Did I get that right at the 30, almost $38,000?

1883
02:24:16,980 --> 02:24:21,300
I guess what I'm trying to understand is if it's an ongoing budget request,

1884
02:24:21,320 --> 02:24:22,740
is this an annual cost?

1885
02:24:22,820 --> 02:24:23,920
I don't understand.

1886
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:26,260
So they're going to replace every year.

1887
02:24:26,380 --> 02:24:28,100
They wouldn't all just be replaced all at once.

1888
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:29,800
No, I'm happy to address that.

1889
02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:31,520
It's confusing.

1890
02:24:33,300 --> 02:24:36,960
So I actually have something to reference because it's confusing.

1891
02:24:37,900 --> 02:24:40,960
So let me pull that up here.

1892
02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:42,700
And that sounds like it's an annual licensing.

1893
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:44,180
It is.

1894
02:24:44,580 --> 02:24:45,880
So there's several components to it.

1895
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:48,140
So currently we have, let's see here,

1896
02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:51,500
if I got this right, we currently have three contracts

1897
02:24:51,500 --> 02:24:52,800
with axon.

1898
02:24:53,020 --> 02:24:56,220
They're three independent, all-acquart contracts.

1899
02:24:57,280 --> 02:24:59,820
They expire, they have to be renewed in 2029.

1900
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,380
So we have to, that's a horizon for us, right, event horizon for us.

1901
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:11,240
That totals currently, what we're currently paying is about $35,000 a year for our current

1902
02:25:11,240 --> 02:25:16,320
technology package, that's storage, equipment, all that kind of stuff.

1903
02:25:18,140 --> 02:25:24,120
In 2029, all those things will have to be replaced, which becomes very expensive because

1904
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:29,480
paying whatever those costs will be at that time and have to renew those contracts.

1905
02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:37,460
The approach in the past has been to all a cart those different components for example

1906
02:25:37,460 --> 02:25:44,900
body camps. We purchased those body camps in 2019. They're two generations old now and they're

1907
02:25:44,900 --> 02:25:50,460
no longer serviceable. So, and they're not under warranty. And even if a part breaks on them we

1908
02:25:50,460 --> 02:25:54,180
have to buy a whole new camera of which they're phasing out anyways.

1909
02:25:56,020 --> 02:26:01,960
The same our casers which we purchased a few years ago were in the same boat in other words.

1910
02:26:02,140 --> 02:26:08,620
We own those properly and a few years we're going to have to completely overhaul that and

1911
02:26:08,620 --> 02:26:12,640
also with the accompanying components of that.

1912
02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:18,840
And then we have our storage and then our fleet cameras which are in our vehicles, we also

1913
02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:24,980
purchase those allocart so in a few years we're gonna have to wholesale replace

1914
02:26:24,980 --> 02:26:32,520
those as well because they wear out of a time. By purchasing again allocart brand new

1915
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:38,590
body cams which need to be it's a critical thing at this point. That would

1916
02:26:38,940 --> 02:26:46,700
require our costs to be about $37,000 a year. I'm sorry $39,000 a year buying

1917
02:26:46,700 --> 02:26:53,220
those allocard. That's what our load would be on an annualized basis. By consolidating all

1918
02:26:53,220 --> 02:27:00,580
the contracts into one contract, aligning all those time periods and securing that pricing

1919
02:27:00,580 --> 02:27:07,400
for ten years. Over the next five years, we would reduce our annual cost by $2,000 and have

1920
02:27:07,400 --> 02:27:13,940
new equipment. That equipment, as part of that contract, would be automatically refurbished for

1921
02:27:13,940 --> 02:27:16,340
us during that 10-year period.

1922
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:22,920
So several different intervals, but essentially we'd get new body cams today, and then in five

1923
02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:25,780
years we'd get brand new body cams at no additional cost.

1924
02:27:25,820 --> 02:27:27,340
That's already built into the contract.

1925
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:33,980
Same way with the fleet cameras, same with our taser weapons as well.

1926
02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:41,260
So it's way of consolidating everything into one contract, and it would actually save us about

1927
02:27:41,260 --> 02:27:46,740
$10,000 over the next five years, and then that would be kind of absorbed into the previous

1928
02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:53,160
or the next five years, and it's all locked in at today's pricing.

1929
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:54,640
Thank you.

1930
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:56,220
What happens at the end of time?

1931
02:27:56,980 --> 02:27:59,160
So at the end of the 10, we would look at a renewal.

1932
02:27:59,900 --> 02:28:01,080
Do we get new equipment?

1933
02:28:02,140 --> 02:28:02,300
Yeah.

1934
02:28:02,380 --> 02:28:06,100
So at that time, there's a couple of different ways to go about it.

1935
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:11,100
At that time, if we said, you know what, we don't want to go into a renewal-type contract,

1936
02:28:11,800 --> 02:28:13,000
we would still keep the equipment.

1937
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:14,460
The equipment would be ours.

1938
02:28:15,260 --> 02:28:16,580
But it doesn't, the life is not.

1939
02:28:16,740 --> 02:28:19,740
The life is not there, and then we'd have to look at buying new equipment.

1940
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:23,200
Anyways, at some point, depending on how quickly those fell off.

1941
02:28:23,420 --> 02:28:29,440
We would still have to renew the data storage component of that, because otherwise you have

1942
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:32,580
a piece of equipment you can't use, right, and you have to have that data storage.

1943
02:28:38,820 --> 02:28:44,560
Have you completed the encryption function of all the radios?

1944
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:47,320
Yes, that was completed several months ago.

1945
02:28:47,460 --> 02:28:49,420
Along with the rest of the county.

1946
02:28:49,780 --> 02:28:51,240
Thank you.

1947
02:28:51,260 --> 02:28:53,060
That was I'm done with the chief.

1948
02:28:53,380 --> 02:28:55,660
Thank you.

1949
02:28:56,860 --> 02:29:04,360
And then the other question that I had is on the one-time budget request piece,

1950
02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:08,580
I won't go into each of them, but I am curious in general,

1951
02:29:10,960 --> 02:29:12,660
how much of how much of the

1952
02:29:12,660 --> 02:29:17,960
reserves are we using for operational, like, that are ongoing operational expenses?

1953
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:21,460
Are there any?

1954
02:29:21,460 --> 02:29:23,220
And I'm thinking contractors, anything.

1955
02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:24,280
Right.

1956
02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:30,140
So I think when we created that list, we really did truly mean for the longer list to be one

1957
02:29:30,140 --> 02:29:36,100
time expenses, all basically all in costs for whatever that is, whether it's the

1958
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:39,500
the sidewalk plan, whether it's the other things,

1959
02:29:39,700 --> 02:29:43,220
the baseball field, we would see those as all in.

1960
02:29:43,480 --> 02:29:44,660
And those are estimates.

1961
02:29:45,080 --> 02:29:47,980
I mean, I'm gonna give you my normal caveat,

1962
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:50,240
which is that number definitely isn't right,

1963
02:29:50,820 --> 02:29:54,060
but it's a placeholder for what it will be

1964
02:29:54,060 --> 02:29:56,720
and you'll get to see what it actually is

1965
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:59,020
when we come back for a contractor or whatnot.

1966
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,200
So, you know, I think that we really did try to separate out the one-time versus the ongoing, and that's why we created the two slides.

1967
02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:14,480
As a way to really try to faithfully represent what's one-time, truly one-time.

1968
02:30:14,880 --> 02:30:21,000
Okay, so then a different way to ask it, have any of the reserves been used for ongoing operational costs to date?

1969
02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:23,660
To balance the budget.

1970
02:30:23,660 --> 02:30:24,160
Yes.

1971
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:27,710
Right.

1972
02:30:28,010 --> 02:30:28,950
And then

1973
02:30:35,700 --> 02:30:41,360
on the expanding the baseball fields one, I know it's a wish, but where exactly

1974
02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:42,140
is that going?

1975
02:30:45,340 --> 02:30:47,200
Are we at CCP up or field or lower field?

1976
02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:47,640
Lower.

1977
02:30:48,480 --> 02:30:48,860
Okay.

1978
02:30:49,760 --> 02:30:55,780
So, Lillie has not shared the plan with me, but they actually had a plan developed.

1979
02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:56,820
Okay.

1980
02:30:56,880 --> 02:31:01,540
What it looks like that, a cost estimate from a few years ago, according to them, they approached

1981
02:31:01,540 --> 02:31:05,840
the city manager said no, we're not interested, so they put it away.

1982
02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:09,060
The folks I met with spring break is this week.

1983
02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:09,800
They're gone.

1984
02:31:10,140 --> 02:31:15,260
So we're going to reconnoiter next week, get the plans, and continue that dialogue of what

1985
02:31:15,260 --> 02:31:16,160
that looks like.

1986
02:31:16,740 --> 02:31:22,580
Their cost estimate from a couple of years ago was 400,000, but they felt, again, reduced

1987
02:31:22,580 --> 02:31:28,200
with sweat equity and having members of little league that are in the trades being able

1988
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:28,960
to assist.

1989
02:31:28,960 --> 02:31:39,020
So my placeholder was 500, I feel we can do it for much less, especially if we can partner with the community on a community build for that park.

1990
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:41,900
The, you know, the grasses existing.

1991
02:31:42,580 --> 02:31:53,720
We're talking about some fencing water fountains, dugouts, pitching, or a batting cages, and cutting the infield and moving some irrigation so that you don't have sprinkler heads in the infield.

1992
02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:58,540
So, it's not like you're developing and grading and starting from ground zero.

1993
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:03,920
So, I think it's a very viable option, but there's more to come on that, too.

1994
02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:05,620
I just couldn't picture it.

1995
02:32:05,620 --> 02:32:07,560
That's why I was curious more than anything.

1996
02:32:08,060 --> 02:32:16,080
And then I think my last question is, can you tell me, after they finished doing the study for the sidewalks,

1997
02:32:16,360 --> 02:32:18,400
whoever does this, then what, then what?

1998
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:24,860
Then we would have a list of what needs to happen, so kind of two pieces.

1999
02:32:25,300 --> 02:32:30,800
If it's our city responsibility, getting an engineer's estimate on what that cost

2000
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:34,400
bringing that back to council, what would you like to do?

2001
02:32:34,940 --> 02:32:41,900
If it is frontage of private ownership and they're responsible, it would be up to code enforcement

2002
02:32:41,900 --> 02:32:47,100
to provide those notices of, hey, this is a trip hazard, it's not accessible or passable,

2003
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:49,640
and notifying them and going down that process.

2004
02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:53,300
Okay, and so I know that when your predecessor,

2005
02:32:53,500 --> 02:32:56,240
the interim city manager was here right before,

2006
02:32:56,580 --> 02:32:58,560
right about the time you were coming on,

2007
02:32:58,880 --> 02:33:01,560
he was talking about a sidewalk policy,

2008
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:04,360
working with the residents, a pilot program,

2009
02:33:04,920 --> 02:33:06,580
did anything happen with that?

2010
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:07,240
Did it die?

2011
02:33:07,420 --> 02:33:11,520
I believe, Larry presented it to the council on council said,

2012
02:33:11,800 --> 02:33:11,960
no.

2013
02:33:11,960 --> 02:33:14,040
Don't do it, okay, I don't remember.

2014
02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:15,020
Okay, sorry.

2015
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:16,440
Thank you.

2016
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:20,670
Other questions for staff?

2017
02:33:21,750 --> 02:33:22,690
All right, public comment.

2018
02:33:23,750 --> 02:33:25,790
If you have public comment on this item, now is the time.

2019
02:33:25,950 --> 02:33:27,830
This is item eight A, I do have one speaker card.

2020
02:33:27,850 --> 02:33:31,310
If anyone else would like to have a comment on this item.

2021
02:33:31,890 --> 02:33:32,490
Feel free.

2022
02:33:32,930 --> 02:33:34,270
Mr. Hayden, you're up.

2023
02:33:40,110 --> 02:33:40,710
Thank you, Mayor.

2024
02:33:40,830 --> 02:33:41,150
Council.

2025
02:33:42,230 --> 02:33:47,250
I'm here to address the one time reserve funding request.

2026
02:33:48,070 --> 02:33:52,970
And I got involved in this looking at some particular needs.

2027
02:33:52,970 --> 02:33:55,330
we've got on what I consider on urgent basis.

2028
02:33:55,810 --> 02:34:01,790
It's an outgrowth of the FireWives program that Council Member Tillman initiated some time

2029
02:34:01,790 --> 02:34:06,910
ago to try to help each of the individual homeowners reduce their exposure to fires.

2030
02:34:07,690 --> 02:34:13,190
And with the upcoming fire season coming with the warm weather that's expected and the

2031
02:34:13,190 --> 02:34:18,710
growth that's expected, we think Clayton certainly will be exposed to fire.

2032
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:25,390
If not this year, certainly next year, and we have to make sure that we properly advise

2033
02:34:25,390 --> 02:34:32,290
our residents on what to do if there does become a major wildfire that approaches our city

2034
02:34:32,290 --> 02:34:32,750
limits.

2035
02:34:33,250 --> 02:34:36,390
And I think we need to learn from paradise and Santa Rosa.

2036
02:34:36,710 --> 02:34:42,470
You need to have those plans well thought out and executed and everyone on board with the

2037
02:34:42,470 --> 02:34:43,170
same plan.

2038
02:34:43,170 --> 02:34:53,030
And initially, when I saw this list of budget requests, I didn't see any unique request for an emergency evacuation plan.

2039
02:34:53,490 --> 02:34:58,070
And I have called Dennis a couple of times and asked him if one existed.

2040
02:34:58,570 --> 02:34:59,970
And we didn't...

2041
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,940
We weren't under the impression that a current one does exist, and then he did upgrade the list

2042
02:35:05,940 --> 02:35:12,980
tonight with the funding request and did add in the update of the 2019 city emergency operations

2043
02:35:12,980 --> 02:35:19,540
plan. And I would certainly hope that an emergency evacuation plan would be part of that plan.

2044
02:35:19,940 --> 02:35:24,180
Because we have to make sure we get the fire department, the police department, everyone

2045
02:35:24,180 --> 02:35:30,640
on board to how to quickly react to a potential threat that our city is exposed to and

2046
02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:32,600
work with our neighboring communities.

2047
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:39,240
I understand there is a county effort underway to do some overall regional planning so

2048
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:45,020
that we can properly utilize very efficiently the resources necessary for all of our communities

2049
02:35:45,020 --> 02:35:47,480
if we're facing a similar fire threat.

2050
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:54,160
So I want to make sure we do get approval to move this up in staff priority and get

2051
02:35:54,160 --> 02:36:00,300
get an urgent need then for the development of an emergency response plan for Clayton and

2052
02:36:00,300 --> 02:36:08,140
get the communities involved and certainly develop a good, quick communication plan on how

2053
02:36:08,140 --> 02:36:08,960
to get the word out.

2054
02:36:08,960 --> 02:36:15,340
Dennis did share with me some excellent new upgrades that's going to be available in the

2055
02:36:15,340 --> 02:36:20,280
near future on how we can get warnings out to our community and this is the type of warning

2056
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:23,300
I would expect to utilize that type of system.

2057
02:36:23,300 --> 02:36:29,680
So, I just want you to make sure that that's on the list of the use of reserve funding

2058
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:34,520
because that's an urgent community need that I think we need to address and the council

2059
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:38,700
certainly needs to set that aside and direct the staff to work on that activity.

2060
02:36:40,100 --> 02:36:41,220
Thank you.

2061
02:36:41,440 --> 02:36:42,100
Thank you.

2062
02:36:43,560 --> 02:36:45,700
Any other public comment on this item?

2063
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:52,060
Seeing none, I will close public comment and bring it back for discussion.

2064
02:36:54,700 --> 02:37:01,860
One of the ways I want to frame this is, does this actually represent a funding request, or

2065
02:37:01,860 --> 02:37:06,900
is this more of an informational thing so that we could take note and then come back at

2066
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:07,600
another time?

2067
02:37:07,780 --> 02:37:11,240
Because I don't feel like you're asking for approval of any specific thing.

2068
02:37:12,300 --> 02:37:14,360
Not asking for approval, asking for direction.

2069
02:37:14,620 --> 02:37:19,820
If you want to, one of us to include it in the budget adjustment for 27, that's what we

2070
02:37:19,820 --> 02:37:21,840
That was a good time to do that.

2071
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:24,960
So we are asking for direction.

2072
02:37:25,500 --> 02:37:29,700
Again, we'd bring back anything you get consensus for.

2073
02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,760
We'd bring that back with the package on the 21st

2074
02:37:34,900 --> 02:37:35,780
for approval.

2075
02:37:38,660 --> 02:37:40,840
I don't want to have anything to do.

2076
02:37:41,020 --> 02:37:42,680
There's I have a few comments that I was hoping

2077
02:37:42,680 --> 02:37:43,540
I can make, but

2078
02:37:45,620 --> 02:37:48,000
I don't.

2079
02:37:48,220 --> 02:37:50,300
OK, so in regards to some of these one-time requests,

2080
02:37:51,900 --> 02:37:59,100
consumer to what consumer to be on was saying on the exterior paint of this building.

2081
02:38:01,180 --> 02:38:05,200
Is that on a schedule of like how often we paint our buildings?

2082
02:38:07,350 --> 02:38:08,410
Probably not. I

2083
02:38:08,410 --> 02:38:09,530
yeah that's almost rhetorical.

2084
02:38:11,970 --> 02:38:15,830
So I will echo what I said earlier, all of the things

2085
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:19,110
these regular maintenance items, just be honest schedule.

2086
02:38:21,430 --> 02:38:23,230
Because just like everyone's house,

2087
02:38:23,310 --> 02:38:24,710
you have to repaint your house once in a while,

2088
02:38:24,830 --> 02:38:25,770
you have to repaint your buildings.

2089
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:28,910
We should essentially establish what that time frame is

2090
02:38:28,910 --> 02:38:30,710
and then just do it on the time frame.

2091
02:38:31,350 --> 02:38:33,770
I think that's a better way to handle it.

2092
02:38:35,610 --> 02:38:37,750
I don't know if anyone here recalls the last time

2093
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:39,830
this building was painted, I certainly don't,

2094
02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:44,350
but I'm not sure what the useful life on exterior

2095
02:38:44,350 --> 02:38:49,410
pain is either. So those are the kind of questions that we would want before we say

2096
02:38:49,410 --> 02:38:51,170
at least for myself.

2097
02:38:56,590 --> 02:39:01,950
Something I think the way that we position this I think is very

2098
02:39:01,950 --> 02:39:08,170
important. And if we're talking about one time funding, I think it's very important

2099
02:39:08,170 --> 02:39:16,590
that we isolate the funding out of the general fund. So if like for whatever I don't

2100
02:39:16,590 --> 02:39:28,650
We want to do a, when you look at, if we say we want to do XYZ in 27, when you look at the end of 27 in the journal fund, you shouldn't see these coming through the journal fund.

2101
02:39:29,130 --> 02:39:32,950
Like, because I know it is journal fund money, that's fine.

2102
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:39,810
But if there's a way to isolate the activity so that when you look at,

2103
02:39:45,260 --> 02:39:47,400
I forget what the schedule is in the act for.

2104
02:39:47,400 --> 02:39:59,980
But when you look at it, these will obviously create a large deficit in FY27, right, but I think that would be misleading, unless you understand that we are true.

2105
02:40:03,340 --> 02:40:11,580
So I don't know what the prescribed way to do it would be, but I think it would be very useful for the community to have these set aside.

2106
02:40:11,780 --> 02:40:20,140
So we say, like, these are the projects that we are taking on, whatever they happen to be, so that it's clear that this is not a part of our regular ongoing operations.

2107
02:40:20,820 --> 02:40:28,800
So you guys can think about how you want to do that. I don't need to know, but I think we do have a fund with projects in it.

2108
02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:31,480
And I think that's what you're talking and that sounds exactly like what you're talking about.

2109
02:40:31,480 --> 02:40:35,840
It would just be a good way to isolate it so that it's very clear to the community what we're actually doing

2110
02:40:35,840 --> 02:40:41,860
Because part of this is not only doing the things that we're supposed to do, but demonstrating that we're actually doing them

2111
02:40:41,860 --> 02:40:43,720
And that would be a good way to do what I think

2112
02:40:44,560 --> 02:40:47,720
Okay, so that's what I was kind of like my main point

2113
02:40:53,510 --> 02:41:00,560
The rest of these things I mean is in one of the slides

2114
02:41:01,720 --> 02:41:07,900
We say that staff is identified 2.69 million in one-time funding requests.

2115
02:41:12,180 --> 02:41:14,740
The things on this page don't add up to 2.7 million.

2116
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:21,420
That included the deficit that we pulled out that we changed to TBD.

2117
02:41:21,780 --> 02:41:23,120
At the 2026,

2118
02:41:27,160 --> 02:41:32,880
we're not staying with that, but for the total where I did state that,

2119
02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:38,640
That what that didn't include at that time the calculation for the that included the 950

2120
02:41:38,640 --> 02:41:43,320
No, I mean, I yeah, I know that okay, but it shouldn't say this number here then

2121
02:41:45,080 --> 02:41:49,000
Right, okay, so I was just like I'm doing that and I'm like that doesn't match

2122
02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:50,000
okay

2123
02:41:52,760 --> 02:41:55,220
The for the sidewalk study

2124
02:41:56,740 --> 02:41:58,780
Which it's a lot of money for a study.

2125
02:42:01,880 --> 02:42:04,760
I don't know how to ask this in in a

2126
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:07,340
Does it increase our liability to know?

2127
02:42:08,360 --> 02:42:09,520
Should we not know?

2128
02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:15,920
No, you should have a plan and you should be working towards that plan.

2129
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:19,200
It doesn't mean that once we identify it, we have to do it all at once.

2130
02:42:19,420 --> 02:42:26,380
But if we identify it and we know and we are doing incremental work and correct me if I'm wrong.

2131
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:29,100
But that's the way and previous.

2132
02:42:29,500 --> 02:42:31,880
My answer is that's how we address it.

2133
02:42:31,940 --> 02:42:36,280
If you have a known issue and you do not take action, it's a lot different than if you have an unknown

2134
02:42:36,280 --> 02:42:44,960
issue and do not take action, but please don't mind, cities have millions of miles of roadway

2135
02:42:44,960 --> 02:42:50,560
and sidewalks and nobody can fix it, but they all have 88 transition plans. They have

2136
02:42:50,560 --> 02:42:56,900
these kinds of studies in place and you have to allocate funds annually to address it.

2137
02:42:58,100 --> 02:43:04,100
Doesn't mean you have to do it all next year. I mean if you're testifying and someone says did

2138
02:43:04,100 --> 02:43:09,940
know about this, and I didn't know about that particular item, but we do have a plan to address

2139
02:43:09,940 --> 02:43:10,620
all items.

2140
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:14,960
There's a lot better answer than, yeah, I knew about that one, and I chose not to do it.

2141
02:43:15,300 --> 02:43:16,140
So you tell me,

2142
02:43:19,280 --> 02:43:23,720
it's good to have the plan, but I would encourage on these to have the funding

2143
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:26,580
to implement the plan as quickly as possible.

2144
02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:32,840
It won't absolve you of all liability if we know about it and have a plan to fix it five

2145
02:43:32,840 --> 02:43:33,540
years later.

2146
02:43:34,840 --> 02:43:39,320
Okay, but I guess my question is more like, is it more

2147
02:43:39,320 --> 02:43:40,920
defensible to not know?

2148
02:43:43,720 --> 02:43:48,240
Well, when there's a dangerous condition, one of the elements, is

2149
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:49,420
did you know about it?

2150
02:43:49,420 --> 02:43:51,360
That's so I think that's to your point.

2151
02:43:51,620 --> 02:43:52,620
That is the point I'm trying to make.

2152
02:43:53,020 --> 02:44:00,740
Yeah, if we already know about it and part of this is prioritizing the level, then...

2153
02:44:00,740 --> 02:44:05,500
Well, I mean, we could assume that there is a level of known unknowns,

2154
02:44:07,740 --> 02:44:09,320
and so one of the

2155
02:44:09,320 --> 02:44:15,960
criteria for why we'll be attaching is if did you know about it? And so if we didn't know

2156
02:44:15,960 --> 02:44:21,420
about that particular one, we could truthfully answer, we did not know about it. I think that

2157
02:44:21,420 --> 02:44:29,280
puts us in a better position. If we happen to know about it, then we should take action. That's

2158
02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:29,800
what I'm saying.

2159
02:44:29,980 --> 02:44:35,660
So I don't know if the study itself actually helps us unless we're prepared to address it.

2160
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:43,580
Well on top of that, then my concern is the study is 100,000, we're estimating what is

2161
02:44:43,580 --> 02:44:50,040
the overwhelming cost of repairing and then do we come up with a plan that's like a five-year

2162
02:44:50,040 --> 02:44:59,260
plan or a 10-year plan and if something happens in between, it's something that's been

2163
02:44:59,260 --> 02:44:59,960
I'll do it.

2164
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,980
So that one, I'm a little questionable on because I think it presents risk and we don't really have the means to address what it would find.

2165
02:45:10,320 --> 02:45:10,880
So that's me.

2166
02:45:11,060 --> 02:45:19,520
I get what you're saying. If someone trips on a sidewalk and breaks their skull open and we didn't know about it, that doesn't mean we just go.

2167
02:45:19,740 --> 02:45:20,900
No, it does not.

2168
02:45:21,900 --> 02:45:24,040
But the way it depends on knowing.

2169
02:45:24,500 --> 02:45:25,440
You know.

2170
02:45:29,160 --> 02:45:36,470
So, yes, I think we all agreed that public safety is key.

2171
02:45:37,030 --> 02:45:40,770
I think that we know that because several people have mentioned it to us, we've seen

2172
02:45:40,770 --> 02:45:44,610
it ourselves driving around, that there are buckled sidewalks, etc.

2173
02:45:44,830 --> 02:45:46,010
We know that these exist.

2174
02:45:46,830 --> 02:45:51,170
I would prefer that we know where they are and put a plan in place to address them.

2175
02:45:51,310 --> 02:45:55,110
And I frankly, I'm not going to say I don't care how much it costs because I do, but

2176
02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:56,030
we need to fix them.

2177
02:45:56,030 --> 02:45:59,990
So I don't like that it's a hundred thousand dollars. I hope it actually comes in less than that

2178
02:46:00,970 --> 02:46:04,230
If we're gonna be using three one one and having people identify things for us

2179
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:07,850
Maybe that cuts down on that cost two before this is actually implemented

2180
02:46:09,070 --> 02:46:12,470
But not doing something is not an option for me. We we have to do this

2181
02:46:13,210 --> 02:46:15,650
That's my two cents on that one line item

2182
02:46:15,650 --> 02:46:21,430
I don't know for really pulling it aside walk safety program. That's why I asked then what what happens after we get the information

2183
02:46:21,430 --> 02:46:24,330
But we have to do something about all of those roots

2184
02:46:24,330 --> 02:46:31,090
driving here before you get to Mars Creek Road, there is a part of the sidewalk that is

2185
02:46:31,090 --> 02:46:36,870
like this when you're sitting, when you're driving by, probably people don't realize it

2186
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:42,110
unless you're walking over but you can, it's buckled. That should walk over every day, it should

2187
02:46:42,110 --> 02:46:51,570
be fixed this week. Right, it's a problem. But I do think that there is some risk in identifying

2188
02:46:51,570 --> 02:47:00,890
And then not fixing, because we have no idea what the price tag of doing all this work might be.

2189
02:47:00,890 --> 02:47:06,850
And I kind of like the three-one-one self-reporting system where people are saying,

2190
02:47:07,090 --> 02:47:08,990
Hey, this is a nuisance in my neighborhood.

2191
02:47:09,950 --> 02:47:11,510
It needs to be fixed.

2192
02:47:14,770 --> 02:47:22,970
My concern is when negligence attaches in the liability, because we haven't, because we were informed.

2193
02:47:22,970 --> 02:47:31,830
So, well, everyone's going to do that. If we don't have one deal on availability, to fix that, when I get that report that this sidewalk segment is a trip hazard.

2194
02:47:31,930 --> 02:47:33,030
Well, then we know.

2195
02:47:33,290 --> 02:47:37,710
So, once we know, then we can, you know, if we don't have the available funding for that.

2196
02:47:39,410 --> 02:47:51,870
But incurring a $100,000 fee to, you know, that one seems less, it has some cons to it.

2197
02:47:51,870 --> 02:48:01,900
So, beyond just the cost, so everything else I think I was okay with.

2198
02:48:02,480 --> 02:48:12,040
The one thing is does the items that you identified earlier, Chris, on the other presentation

2199
02:48:12,040 --> 02:48:20,180
for the other major projects, those aren't here, but isn't those going to be using someone

2200
02:48:20,180 --> 02:48:23,980
to like like decide walk, let's say.

2201
02:48:26,220 --> 02:48:28,310
So the the the the Mitchell Canyon sidewalk.

2202
02:48:29,720 --> 02:48:31,420
That's going to use one time dollars.

2203
02:48:31,900 --> 02:48:34,240
It's going to happen in twenty seven if you cross your fingers.

2204
02:48:34,440 --> 02:48:35,200
That's right.

2205
02:48:35,900 --> 02:48:37,040
But it's not on this part.

2206
02:48:37,540 --> 02:48:39,200
So that was addressed.

2207
02:48:39,900 --> 02:48:42,820
And the CIP it's listed with measure j funds.

2208
02:48:45,260 --> 02:48:46,880
And transportation fund.

2209
02:48:47,500 --> 02:48:49,350
So the other I'm so the the.

2210
02:48:49,350 --> 02:48:53,170
But there shouldn't be an overlap if there's a separate funding.

2211
02:48:53,310 --> 02:48:53,570
Right.

2212
02:48:53,570 --> 02:48:57,970
The only one that we may have to bring back is the card may trail.

2213
02:48:58,630 --> 02:49:00,110
We don't know what that number is yet.

2214
02:49:00,250 --> 02:49:03,930
So that may be something that we bring back and say we need additional funding for that piece.

2215
02:49:09,350 --> 02:49:13,870
Well, and then again, all I can say is I have no problem with any of the list.

2216
02:49:13,990 --> 02:49:20,530
But the library exterior painting, I'd like to really see a spend the money on the inside, not the outside.

2217
02:49:20,530 --> 02:49:29,910
And I pass by the library every day, I really, I mean, and we've got, you know, you're

2218
02:49:31,270 --> 02:49:35,770
getting a fat, you know, Geneva Moss was here earlier, thousands of people come, this

2219
02:49:35,770 --> 02:49:43,610
is like our community center, and to me, the interior, way more important, and we just

2220
02:49:43,610 --> 02:49:50,750
do not have funding sources for all of phase two, and I don't think we have any for phase

2221
02:49:50,750 --> 02:49:51,170
three.

2222
02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:53,010
So, I'd rather...

2223
02:49:53,010 --> 02:49:54,290
How short is phase two?

2224
02:49:54,890 --> 02:49:58,810
Well, phase, Chris, you have the most recent numbers we did.

2225
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:59,750
Phase one.

2226
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:10,900
We have a gap of $20,000. That's nothing. Phase two is about $400,000. The main component in phase two is reconfiguring

2227
02:50:10,900 --> 02:50:18,160
the circulation desk up front, putting some different drop, or not drop. Scanners and that kind

2228
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:25,720
of thing for self-checkout and that total for that entire front areas, $110,000.

2229
02:50:25,720 --> 02:50:31,020
Yeah, I think I concur with.

2230
02:50:31,020 --> 02:50:41,720
So maybe could you come back to us with the phase two in the phase three number for the library refresh and we'll see like we're using

2231
02:50:43,020 --> 02:50:47,960
171,000 now or we hope to buy September.

2232
02:50:47,960 --> 02:50:57,540
It was in the 26th, we might have to move that to the 27th, and then what we could use in 27 and 28.

2233
02:50:58,840 --> 02:51:01,160
And I'm good with all the, oh, sorry.

2234
02:51:01,340 --> 02:51:01,920
I got it.

2235
02:51:01,980 --> 02:51:02,200
All right.

2236
02:51:03,360 --> 02:51:04,360
I'm good with all the things.

2237
02:51:04,420 --> 02:51:05,880
I'm good with all the police stuff.

2238
02:51:06,580 --> 02:51:07,000
I don't know.

2239
02:51:07,280 --> 02:51:08,320
I think that's the same.

2240
02:51:08,880 --> 02:51:09,180
Yeah.

2241
02:51:10,340 --> 02:51:10,560
Yeah.

2242
02:51:11,440 --> 02:51:14,060
There's one of the savings from next year's budget.

2243
02:51:14,060 --> 02:51:16,340
Again, it's got it down to 345.

2244
02:51:17,700 --> 02:51:18,040
That's all.

2245
02:51:18,080 --> 02:51:25,880
Remember that we have a rebate coming from climate tech, which is close to $300,000.

2246
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:26,700
It's that.

2247
02:51:26,700 --> 02:51:27,940
That can pardon.

2248
02:51:28,340 --> 02:51:28,540
It's that.

2249
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:29,540
For the federal government.

2250
02:51:30,440 --> 02:51:36,800
And that you're just about even up the 2027 budget if it keeps on track.

2251
02:51:36,800 --> 02:51:39,440
The things on the list,

2252
02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:48,120
I agree with Council Member Trippiano about the library.

2253
02:51:48,860 --> 02:51:52,600
The law enforcement stuff, I think she'd be in the police budget.

2254
02:51:53,180 --> 02:51:54,900
Who should be budgeted items?

2255
02:51:55,340 --> 02:51:58,940
And I know it's not in there for the new one, but it's going to cost more.

2256
02:51:59,460 --> 02:52:01,440
But those are all police things that are required.

2257
02:52:02,180 --> 02:52:04,950
So it would get budgeted in the department budget.

2258
02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:05,450
budget.

2259
02:52:06,190 --> 02:52:06,810
Yeah, yeah.

2260
02:52:06,910 --> 02:52:14,110
I mean for the equipment and stuff, I think on that because it's single purpose, now I'm

2261
02:52:14,110 --> 02:52:18,590
going against what I said earlier about project funding, but it does seem like one of those

2262
02:52:18,590 --> 02:52:24,090
things where you are dedicating it to a specific purpose for field use.

2263
02:52:25,270 --> 02:52:29,530
It's not the same as the sidewalk project or the library thing.

2264
02:52:29,610 --> 02:52:30,790
It's completely different than that.

2265
02:52:30,830 --> 02:52:33,830
So I think we would integrate that right in the next budget.

2266
02:52:33,830 --> 02:52:40,850
And the emergency operations plan, that's also going to be part of that telephone plan for the police to

2267
02:52:40,850 --> 02:52:45,750
or the automated phone that will tell people, there's a fire or emergency somewhere,

2268
02:52:46,190 --> 02:52:47,490
please go out this road.

2269
02:52:47,950 --> 02:52:51,750
So some of that's in the civic plus program we have with mass notifications.

2270
02:52:52,190 --> 02:52:56,990
But I think on the emergency operation plan, it would be a professional services contract that would

2271
02:52:56,990 --> 02:52:58,770
be signed for somebody to develop the plan.

2272
02:52:59,030 --> 02:53:02,230
Again, would be in the PD's Department budget.

2273
02:53:02,230 --> 02:53:05,230
And just one thing about the sidewalks.

2274
02:53:07,310 --> 02:53:17,790
In the city that I was a councilman, but a long time ago, we had a company, we hired, they did the exact same thing, was an under $1000, though.

2275
02:53:19,270 --> 02:53:24,470
But that list they prioritized because they're professional people.

2276
02:53:25,130 --> 02:53:28,690
So we went down as much as we could each year to pay for it.

2277
02:53:28,690 --> 02:53:33,070
And somebody did have an accident on one that was on her list.

2278
02:53:33,750 --> 02:53:38,990
It turned a cane to the city and said this, and we showed him the list.

2279
02:53:39,170 --> 02:53:44,870
It's prioritized by this company, and if you want to take us to court go ahead, but I don't

2280
02:53:44,870 --> 02:53:47,770
know of any judge while a city is trying.

2281
02:53:47,850 --> 02:53:55,010
They can't do all of it, and he said, oh, you guys did make that list, and I said, no, it was

2282
02:53:55,010 --> 02:54:01,850
company feel free to call him. Never heard from him again. Because we're making the effort to do it.

2283
02:54:03,730 --> 02:54:09,470
Because anybody can suit anybody for anything. Anyway, that's just my thesis.

2284
02:54:09,650 --> 02:54:14,630
I do have one other question just before we conclude on the baseball field.

2285
02:54:15,290 --> 02:54:20,050
I do think it's a great idea. I know the little league has always wanted a partner with us on that.

2286
02:54:20,050 --> 02:54:31,750
Is that also a potential revenue source for us by renting it out like we'll sum of that by adding another field offset?

2287
02:54:34,410 --> 02:54:42,910
Yeah, there is revenue to be made during the season and any other user that wants to use that field, whether it's soccer, baseball, kickball, whatever, yes.

2288
02:54:44,410 --> 02:54:50,690
The preliminary conversation tonight was literally was not about free use of the field,

2289
02:54:51,170 --> 02:54:56,890
but if they're going to be the partner in that, having the first right to that field and

2290
02:54:56,890 --> 02:54:57,290
free field.

2291
02:55:00,340 --> 02:55:11,600
I think that's a great discussion. I'm not sure if that's a lie, but it's fine.

2292
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:14,220
I think he knows that the contract was in the back of the house.

2293
02:55:14,260 --> 02:55:16,880
And our field was first put in.

2294
02:55:17,140 --> 02:55:17,780
I was here.

2295
02:55:18,380 --> 02:55:22,820
That field was built like that to handle not just little e,

2296
02:55:23,140 --> 02:55:25,620
but bay-bruth and kids older.

2297
02:55:26,080 --> 02:55:29,060
And it has to be a certain size that we had

2298
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:32,780
tournaments here that were actually paid for by baseball

2299
02:55:33,740 --> 02:55:34,380
organizations.

2300
02:55:34,840 --> 02:55:36,360
Because we had a beautiful ballpark.

2301
02:55:37,360 --> 02:55:39,680
And if we put a field somewhere else,

2302
02:55:39,680 --> 02:55:45,620
that's going to cut off that right field line, left field line, maybe that backstop could be

2303
02:55:45,620 --> 02:55:54,620
movable. So if another organization wants to use it that has 1678, 18-year-old, it'll be a legal

2304
02:55:54,620 --> 02:56:00,560
field. I don't know if we could do that, but maybe you could look at that, but we get the plans.

2305
02:56:04,280 --> 02:56:08,520
Tournament, you won't be doing bigger kids in tournaments out there. If you don't have, we don't have

2306
02:56:08,520 --> 02:56:10,120
the proper facilities to run tournaments.

2307
02:56:11,480 --> 02:56:13,100
We don't even have outfield fences.

2308
02:56:13,840 --> 02:56:15,300
And that's true for turning points.

2309
02:56:15,720 --> 02:56:16,580
That's true for me.

2310
02:56:16,880 --> 02:56:20,100
Yeah, but you've got to be expected to go with.

2311
02:56:20,540 --> 02:56:20,680
OK.

2312
02:56:20,960 --> 02:56:24,600
And just speaking of sports, the last thing I just

2313
02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:27,120
thought about, I didn't have on my original list,

2314
02:56:27,820 --> 02:56:30,400
is the folks that have the contract at the gym

2315
02:56:31,000 --> 02:56:35,680
isn't that contract coming up for renewal in 27?

2316
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:39,080
I think our city manager is engaged with the discussion.

2317
02:56:39,240 --> 02:56:39,740
Oh, you are.

2318
02:56:40,900 --> 02:56:41,400
It's great.

2319
02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:43,540
Thank you.

2320
02:56:45,950 --> 02:56:46,090
Okay.

2321
02:56:46,490 --> 02:56:49,030
Any other, do you have what you need?

2322
02:56:49,170 --> 02:56:50,190
Does anyone have any more?

2323
02:56:50,190 --> 02:56:50,470
Yeah.

2324
02:56:50,530 --> 02:56:56,950
The only other thing I'd say is anything that is safety-related, so I know for years, people were

2325
02:56:56,950 --> 02:57:00,530
had concern about the path that's outside of Mount Eauble Elementary School.

2326
02:57:00,730 --> 02:57:01,410
Where are we right now?

2327
02:57:04,790 --> 02:57:06,890
Wherever we are, it's one of these directions.

2328
02:57:07,510 --> 02:57:15,030
Yeah. It's over there. It's up there. No, it's that way. Yes, above that, that there's no fence there.

2329
02:57:15,630 --> 02:57:20,510
So if we're just thinking about, I haven't been up there lately, but people complain that it's just a drop off.

2330
02:57:20,850 --> 02:57:23,290
That the safety railing that should be up there is missing.

2331
02:57:24,170 --> 02:57:27,830
So anything that we are, I'll, I'll make a list and I'll send it to you.

2332
02:57:28,130 --> 02:57:32,390
But anything that a safety related is what I'm going to be adding on there, whether it's to Keith's point.

2333
02:57:32,390 --> 02:57:38,650
I'm sorry, Mr. Hayden's point of evacuation procedures, et cetera.

2334
02:57:38,810 --> 02:57:42,430
I will leave that to the experts, but anything that is safety-related, I'm going to add

2335
02:57:42,430 --> 02:57:45,490
to the list, because I have a lot of emails over the years that people were complaining

2336
02:57:45,490 --> 02:57:50,930
about things in this general area in downtown to keep safer, especially around the school.

2337
02:57:51,550 --> 02:57:55,910
Yeah, I think that area, I'm not sure if it applies to that particular section of the pathway

2338
02:57:56,850 --> 02:58:01,850
with the cliff, but I know that there is a complication that, you know,

2339
02:58:01,850 --> 02:58:06,810
Once you start touching things that aren't ADA compliant, then you need to bring them ADA compliant.

2340
02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:09,850
So touching those could be

2341
02:58:12,930 --> 02:58:14,290
costly, I would say.

2342
02:58:15,250 --> 02:58:20,550
So it's always a trade-off in that one. Definitely like with the railroad tracks on the tap there.

2343
02:58:20,550 --> 02:58:23,850
Yeah, go that far and necessarily just the drop off that there is no,

2344
02:58:24,910 --> 02:58:28,530
that there's no fence. They're used to be, and it's not there anymore.

2345
02:58:28,530 --> 02:58:29,750
Did they're used to be different?

2346
02:58:30,010 --> 02:58:31,970
According to people who have written to us,

2347
02:58:32,090 --> 02:58:33,350
that is what I don't know,

2348
02:58:33,630 --> 02:58:34,910
because I've never walked around that.

2349
02:58:35,810 --> 02:58:37,490
I mean, it's been a little while for me

2350
02:58:37,490 --> 02:58:40,930
since my kids were in school there, but I don't.

2351
02:58:41,110 --> 02:58:43,870
I mean, yeah, I could have just been mismermering.

2352
02:58:45,370 --> 02:58:45,450
OK.

2353
02:58:46,210 --> 02:58:47,990
Any other thoughts to share with that?

2354
02:58:49,230 --> 02:58:50,990
Do you have what you need or do you need?

2355
02:58:51,190 --> 02:58:52,270
Can I summarize it real quick?

2356
02:58:52,350 --> 02:58:53,090
I make sure I got it right.

2357
02:58:53,390 --> 02:58:57,010
So it seems like people are buying large, OK,

2358
02:58:57,010 --> 02:58:58,830
with the bulk of the list.

2359
02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:02,690
The couple things that were specified

2360
02:59:02,690 --> 02:59:06,230
was the library exterior paint, X-ray on that,

2361
02:59:06,570 --> 02:59:08,890
and go and talk about the funding for phases

2362
02:59:08,890 --> 02:59:12,530
two and three of the interior work that we're doing.

2363
02:59:13,010 --> 02:59:14,010
But they'll put it on the schedule.

2364
02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:16,870
And put it on the schedule, yes, yes.

2365
02:59:17,090 --> 02:59:19,170
But the exterior painting is scheduled, yes.

2366
02:59:20,210 --> 02:59:22,930
That I'll work on all the schedules for all the pieces.

2367
02:59:23,730 --> 02:59:26,150
And then on the sidewalk safety program,

2368
02:59:26,150 --> 02:59:32,270
I think what we're really talking about here is there's some way in which we get an inventory

2369
02:59:32,270 --> 02:59:37,370
of that, whether it's through 311 or some other system, so we know what the priority safety

2370
02:59:37,370 --> 02:59:43,030
projects are and that we do that, but not necessarily engage in a full contract and study.

2371
02:59:43,230 --> 02:59:44,550
Can I make a request?

2372
02:59:45,650 --> 02:59:50,570
Is there a way that you could succinctly summarize the point that I'm trying to make with regard

2373
02:59:50,570 --> 02:59:55,050
to the liability question, like, and send it to Council.

2374
02:59:55,830 --> 02:59:58,670
Like, just the potential risk that there is.

2375
02:59:59,110 --> 02:59:59,510
Okay, thank you.

2376
03:00:00,690 --> 03:00:02,610
So those were the changes.