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All right, today everyone

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ready to go, good

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to go.

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All right, it is 703 and I will call the regular meeting to order. First order of business is the roll call. Councilmember Diaz. President. Vice Mayor Ania. President. Mayor Juan. Here. Councilmember Trupeano. I'm here. Councilmember Tillman. Here. We have a quorum. Thank you. Next is the pledge of allegiance.

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It's very

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fun, like for which it stands, one nation, and the other gender.

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Thank you.

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All right, next is item three, public comment on non-agenda items.

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If anyone is interested in making a comment on something that's not on the agenda now is your time.

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I do not have any cards, but you're welcome to raise your hand if you would like in the room.

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If not, then I'm not going to do a special call out.

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So I'm giving you guys that this is it, if you want.

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Is that, do we have anyone online?

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There's no one online raising their hand.

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Thank you.

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Last call.

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All right.

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I will close public comment on the next is the consent calendar.

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Does anyone have anything that they would like to pull from the consent calendar?

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Seeing none, public comment on the consent calendar.

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Anyone online?

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None either.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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I'll close public comment on the consent.

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I'll move for approval of the consent calendar.

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Second.

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Second.

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Would you please call the roll.

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Councilmember Diaz.

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Yes.

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Councilmember Truppiano.

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Yes. Councilmember Tillman.

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Vice Mayor Anya.

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Mayor Wan.

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Motion carries 5-0.

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Thank you.

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Next is reports, Mr. City Manager.

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Would you like to kick us off?

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Thank you, Mayor.

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A few items, some dates coming up.

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The last concert from the series this summer.

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Features pride and joy will be this Saturday.

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August 22nd, 6 p.m. We're hosting a town hall meeting on August 26th from 6 to 8 p.m.

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right here in Hoyer Hall. It will be live streamed and that link should have gone up today for that meeting.

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Also, the very next day in this room is the Emergency Operations Plan Community Meeting,

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which will also be live streamed. Again, that's Thursday, August 27th. That'll be at 7 p.m.

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And the chief will be hosting that along with our consultant for the development of the EOP.

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Now, for that, the next City Council meeting will be the regular date of September 1st.

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And while we're on the topic of events and meetings and fun,

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thanks to everybody who came out to National Night Out earlier this month,

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great event, nice turnout, nice to see everybody out there at the Court

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Nerd at City Hall, and of course, thank you to the police department and the

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chief for coordinating the event and our maintenance staff and public works for

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getting everything prepped ready and hauling all the stuff around. So the

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committee could enjoy that evening. So looking forward to doing it again next year.

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The chief may pull double duty as a short order.

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Yes, yes. My hot dog was a little overdone, but yeah, I'm not going to complain.

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And then one last fun announcement.

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So every year the Knights of Columbus paid tribute to police and firefighter personnel

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with a blue mass and awards ceremony celebrating a distinguished blue night.

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And the chief informer today that this year's recipient from our clinic

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The state and police department is the administrative sergeant Richinea,

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so he'll be recognized as the 2026 Blue Knight Award recipient.

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Sergeant Ania was selected by the members of the department to receive this recognition

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and the following details were cited for the reasons for the nomination.

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His community involvement,

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constant positive leadership, assistant to officers, assistance to officers, excuse me.

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Proactivity as a sergeant, being a team player, assisting co-workers and commitment to the department and also the community.

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We will invite sergeant Ania to attend a future council meeting where we can recognize him much like we did the officer last year, but

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very excited to announce that he is the Blue Knight recipient for this year.

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And that concludes my report.

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Thank you.

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Is that gonna be at St.

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France's?

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St. Magnes and one will have be.

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Took me all the figure that out.

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It will be same location as last year

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on September 13th following the 1130 Mass.

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It's following.

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The 1130 Mass?

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So probably, probably 1230.

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And you said that concluded your report?

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Okay, thank you.

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All right, that is 5A.

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City Council and community reports are located within the agenda packet so we move on to the amendment item six hold it hold it hold it I

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Have a correction on my report August 18th today. I only met with the city manager once

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It says I've did it twice the first meeting was with the chief of police. Okay, I'd like to have that from the record

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Thank you

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Okay, item 6a, there are a series of ordinances, and I will say I believe these are primarily related to language conflicts and updates to bring them more current.

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We don't always update our ordinances every year, and so this is a good opportunity to do so.

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There are several that span multiple different topics.

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My understanding is that there is some language even now, some language corrections within the packet.

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So what we'll do tonight is discuss these ordinances and then continue them to a date in the future.

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Ordinances require two readings.

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This doesn't count as the first.

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Okay, so would you like to kick us off with item 6a?

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Thank you, Mayor and Council, so I'll be presenting six ordinance updates and one new ordinance.

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These are, I'll speak in general since we're covering so many just to kind of set the table.

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All of these are a direct result of staff feedback, primarily related to operations that occur within these ordinances.

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And they were out of a, you know, a team effort of staff that came together to identify a handful of ordinances that were kind of pinch points for staff and for our community.

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So that's the nexus for why these things are being brought forward.

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And we will, I'll be presenting each ordinance individually, opportunity for discussion and we will be tabling it so

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so that it can be properly formatted for future consideration and adoption under those guidelines.

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So we'll get into number one.

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Number one addresses municipal code section 5.04370, which is rental dwellings.

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It's to amend the Clayton Municipal Code eliminating the business license tax and single family residential dwelling units.

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One of the things to consider in this is that the council can also consider, although it's not written here but it can be amended to modify the ordinance so that if should the council choose to remove residential dwelling units as a fee for the business license that it can be added by a future council by the movement of the council rather than going through an elective voting process.

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by the public. So that's something to consider as you review this.

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So the primary motivation for this is in context of the city's desire for affordable housing.

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And to eliminate really which is a minimal fee that the city has been collecting which amounts

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It sounds to roughly $1,200 a year speaking with staff and doing some research.

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It does not appear that the intent of this was to essentially tax individual homeowners that may have a rental or an ADU that would be providing these living accommodations to our residents, but it's kind of evolved into that.

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And so, staff believes that it's in the best interest of the city to eliminate that aspect of the code.

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By eliminating last year, as an example, 1285 was the revenue that was collected through individual residents' taxation through the business license process.

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Is there any questions?

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questions for staff.

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So we had ten of these about seven. Seven. The juice is not worth

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the squeeze. Mayor, did you want to open the public hearing? They were listed each individually

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so I didn't know how you wanted to handle public comment and opening the public.

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I would do public comment individually for each item so open each public hearing.

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Public hearing and then take public comment and then continue to September 1st.

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Okay, great. All right, so let's open the public hearing there were no questions for staff public comment on this item this ordinance

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proposal, I guess

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Do you have any?

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Okay, no public comment online. So I guess I'll close

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public comment and bring it back. Does anyone have any discussion on this item?

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Okay, then we can go ahead and continue the public hearing until September 1st, which

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will be our next meeting.

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And to just get clarification, did you want us to, as the chief mentioned, if you

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delete the $127 for single family, if a future council wants to somehow bring that back,

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it would have to go to the ballot because of Prop 218.

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So, if you want to retain that flexibility, we could add language for future council members

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to bring back the 127 fee. If you don't care because it is a nominal amount that has

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been collected, then we can just continue as written.

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It's precisely 127 that the option to bring back no more no less.

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In theory, you could bring back less, but you couldn't bring back more than 127.

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Okay, is there a preference on the council for this?

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I would just as soon. Let it go, but all right, no, thank you. Okay, thank you. Okay, so that we have continued item 6A to September 1st. We would open the public hearing for item 6B, and I will turn it back over to the chief. Thank you, Mayor. So this report deals with. Code section 718-06.

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six, zero which is alarm systems, it's amending the municipal code to clarify the fee schedule applicable to excessive false alarms.

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This recommendation is to clarify language that was confusing to staff, essentially directing staff that any late fee would be set at $50.

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However, that's in conflict with existing language within the municipal code that shows that there's an escalation of fees based on

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number of violations. So this clarification of language in 9.18.060 enforcement, subsection

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B, simply eliminates that reference to the $50 and references the above paragraph which

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actually shares the appropriate level of fees that would be ascribed to a late fee. It does

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It does not remove any grace so that that language still exists as you can see in Section B3 during any 30-day period or no more than 4 any year.

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Once that threshold is passed, then the late fee would take effect.

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This amendment to the ordinance does not change any of that, just simply to reference the appropriate escalation of fees.

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Questions for staff?

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Yes, I have, I used to be the state regulator over this industry.

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And this was the number one issue throughout the state of California.

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What, how many freebies do they get in the way?

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How many initial false alarm before the fees kick in for responding?

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Yes, no good question.

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So it's three in a 30 day period or three in a 30 day period or four in a 12 month period.

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And what sort of experience do we have here in Clayton?

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I know we were at downtown here a couple of weeks ago, when the wind was really blowing,

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and there was a false alarm at the Clayton Club, and officers responded.

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And so I just wanted with the historical number we have on a monthly basis,

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if that's a reasonable.

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It really impacts just a couple of year, primarily businesses.

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I'm not familiar with any individual residential impacts, but it's primarily businesses that this would impact.

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And we only, I think, assess only the penalty fee on a couple of businesses a year.

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It's not a large number.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, the only other question that I had is, is this calendar year, fiscal year, 12-month period?

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And the reason why I'm asking is it reads second or third violation within one year from what period from the first violation.

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And then 12 months from there, I'm just trying to figure out when the clock starts.

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Yeah, so the way we've applied it from what I understand is on the calendar year.

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Okay, wait, really?

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That's not what the ordinance says.

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So item V, so item A is I would say.

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It can be read multiple ways, but in context of item B, item B is, it says verbatim in a 30-day period and then no more than four in a 12-month period.

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And that to me is pretty explicit for a rolling period.

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So I would take item B and A in conjunction and say that the year, because it does not rule out a rolling period in item A.

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I would contribute them both to be a rolling period,

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to be consistent within the reading.

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That's how I would read it.

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Yeah, no, I understand that.

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I was referencing what the way I believe it had been

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historically applied.

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Yeah, and I have no issue with that level of accounting.

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And we should change the language to reference

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a 12-month period everywhere it says year in both A and B,

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if we want to have consistency.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're right now in conflict and the rule of statute of construction would say that you would read it so they don't conflict, but

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Do we could be more explicit to make it more clear in item A? I think item B is fine

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And I think it just needs to be clear to if it's primarily businesses when their clock starts

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Yeah, and who's I mean so that they can keep track of it themselves, right? So that that was why I was asking the question

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All right.

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I have a question.

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Sure.

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I haven't read this in a long time, but it used to be 20 years ago or more.

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Oh, it's saying.

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If they had an alarm, they were fined after three alarms or whatever, but if they had the

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alarm company come out to correct it and fix it, it goes back to zero.

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We're not doing that anymore, right?

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I'm not aware of that.

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Okay.

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That's fine.

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Yep.

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And the other one is, is there any penalty for especially businesses that refuse to come out at night to check their business?

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Are you speaking if we had a false alarm?

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No, there weren't a business, so the guy won't come out.

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Not that I'm aware of.

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Okay, and also, is it in the section about it goes off after 20 minutes, or can it ring all night?

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It could ring all night, but typically, again, from my experience in this, and again, thankfully this is a fairly rare occurrence.

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Is we communicate directly with the alarm company, and then we don't continue to respond.

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If we're getting an indication that the alarm is just continuing to ring, we'll secure, or do our best to secure, check the premise, and then we let dispatch know that we will not be responding.

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Thank you.

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That was good.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Other questions for staff?

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If not, a public comment.

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Any public comment on this item?

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Okay.

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No public comment in the room or online.

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I'll bring it back.

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Any further discussion on 6B, other than the cleaning up of some of the language?

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All right.

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that we will continue this item 6B until our meeting September 1st.

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All right, moving on to item 6C.

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I'm sorry mayor, could we just get a motion on that?

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On the continuous September 1st.

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We just have motion for the continuing?

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Correct.

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Well, we didn't do it for item A.

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I thought we did.

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No, we did not.

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Oh, then if I, if we would like to get motions on all of the items,

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we can continue them.

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Okay, so let's, can I just ask a question?

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I think we're opening a public hearing for each item but we're not closing it, we are continuing it.

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We're continuing it.

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Are we going to vote for all of them at one time or are we going to do it individually now?

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I think we are treating them individually so we will vote to continue each item individually.

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Okay. So being that we neglected item 6A, let's go back to item 6A for a moment. And if there's a motion to continue item 6A, how many commotion we continue item 6A?

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Seconded.

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All right. Can we call the roll?

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Councilmember Diaz.

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Yes.

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Councilmember Truppiano.

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Yes. Councilmember Tillman.

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Aye.

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Vice Mayor Anya.

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Yes.

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Mayor Wan.

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All right. Motion carries 5-0.

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All right.

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All right, now that 6A has been dispensed, we will go to 6B again, and we've already had our discussion in public comment, so I think we are looking for a motion of continuance.

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I'll move to continue item 6B.

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I'll second it.

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Council Member Diaz.

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Council Member Trupiano.

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Yes. Council Member Tillman.

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Aye. Vice Mayor Ania.

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Yes. Mayor One.

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Motion carries 5-0.

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All right.

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Point of clarification again, and we're continuing all of these to September 1st.

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That is our intent, yes.

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Thank you.

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We're going to vote on it, but I'm hoping that we all deal with it right.

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I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but that is the intent.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Moving on to public hearing for item 6C.

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I will open the public hearing and turn it over to the Chief.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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This is to amend Clayton Municipal Code Section 104020 Recreational Vehicle Definition to clarify that non-motorized trailers drawn by a motor vehicle are included within the definition of a recreational vehicle.

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Staff has identified on multiple occasions that there are vehicles that are being parked on our residential roadways that are not obtaining recreational vehicle permits.

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So basically vehicles are being stored, these trailers are being stored with the only alternative to market with the 72 hours of vehicles part for a length of time.

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This really, again, is a clarification of language and to include the most appropriate definition for what those vehicles entail.

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And as you can see in the proposed ordinance amendment is that this would be defined or

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to include and trailers without mode of power designed to be drawn by a motor vehicle for

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carrying property passengers or for human habitation, including both enclosed and

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un-enclosed trailers.

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So that way, if completely encapsulates that definition and provides some clarity,

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both to the public and to staff that would be enforcing this.

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Questions for staff?

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Inforcement is complaint driven?

294
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Correct.

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Thank you.

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So I have one question, maybe more than one.

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So garden trailers, that seems to fall under this as well.

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Is that the intent?

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So there is an exception.

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So, in subsection, sorry, excuse me, just for a second, let me find that.

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I think it's probably embedded within A, but it seems like it's talking about commercial

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trailers, but some people have them for non-commercial uses.

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Yes, so those, I'm sorry, I'm not finding the exact section.

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But there is an exemption there for commercial vehicles that are working.

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So somebody who has a garden trailer, and going and doing maintenance on a home, that would not fall under under this regulation.

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Would a garden share it for personal use, fall under?

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Yes, it would.

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And that is the intent.

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Yes, I just want to make sure that we're not capturing more than we want to.

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Yes, I agree.

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It's in the staff report, right before fiscal impact, the paragraph right above that one.

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The amendment does not alter the chapters existing exclusions and subsection A. Is that what you mean?

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Okay.

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Okay. Any other questions for staff?

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All right. I will open public comment. Anyone have any public comment on this item?

316
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Okay. None in the room and none online.

317
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Bring it back. Is any other discussion that we'd like to have on this?

318
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If not, then a motion for continuance would be great.

319
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Move forward, we continue the public hearing on item 6c.

320
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I'll second.

321
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Council member Diaz?

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Yes.

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Council member Trippiano?

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Yes.

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Council member Tillman?

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Aye.

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Vice Mayor Anya?

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Yes.

329
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Mayor One.

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Aye.

331
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Motion carries 5-0.

332
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Excellent.

333
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All right.

334
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Next is item 6d.

335
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D, D is in Delta, I will open the public hearing and turn it over to the chief.

336
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Thank you.

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So item 60 is amending Clayton Municipal Code Section 11-04060 city parks, amplified sound to include blue-to-the-speakers

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among exempt personal devices and to permit terminology to align with permits currently issued by the city.

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So, this original ordinance was adopted in 1991.

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Bluetooth speakers were not a thing at that time, so we've corrected language there to add what most people have at these types of events, which are personal Bluetooth speakers.

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And then we removed activity permit, the city does not issue activity permits, so is language that doesn't really apply to currently issued permits.

342
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and to clarify that, that would be through a noise permit or a special event permit.

343
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So a very simple amendment.

344
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Thank you. Questions for staff?

345
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All right. I did have one question. This language does seem fairly prescriptive.

346
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Like we're describing certain specific things.

347
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Would it be more efficient to be more general so that we're not technology tied in the ordinance?

348
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And the whole point of this, I believe, is personal sound stuff, personal speakers,

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for personal use that don't travel more than 10 feet is what we're trying to exempt.

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Whether it's Bluetooth or any other new emerging technology, I think if we're broad, I think

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we capture the intent.

352
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It does say similar devices.

353
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I know, but it also says all like portable radios and tape players

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So it's fine. It's not wrong. You might want to go old school. You never know

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But if you if we say something like

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Personal equipment that does not travel more than 10 feet

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You've pretty much covered all new technology and you never have to do this again. So just a thought. Is that, are we open to that?

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Just trying to save the next 20 years. There will be a new technology theoretically so.

359
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Okay, no problem. I can, I can simplify the. No problem. All right. No other questions. I will open public comment. Any public comment on this item? There's no public comment.

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in the room or online, I just say that so that we have it on the record.

361
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All right, I will close public comment and bring it back to council.

362
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Looking for a motion.

363
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Before motion, I just have one small edit since you are changing the ordinance.

364
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Since you removed activity permit and made it noise permit, it should be a noise permit instead of an.

365
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It's all, it's just grammar,

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do you see it?

367
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Okay, that's all.

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Sounds good.

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All right.

370
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All right, is there a motion for continuance?

371
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I've got it open, I'll do it.

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I'll make the motion to continue item 6D

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to our September 1st meeting.

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I'll second that motion, all right?

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Would we please call the roll?

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Council member Diaz.

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Council member Trupeano?

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Yes, Council member Tellman?

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Aye.

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Vice Mayor Anya?

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Yes.

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Mayor Wan?

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Aye.

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Motion carries 5-0.

385
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All right, moving right along.

386
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We are now on item 6E.

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I will open the public comments, or sorry, public hearing.

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I'm glad, and turn it over to the Chief.

389
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Thank you, Mayor.

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This item 6E is proposing a mending Clayton Municipal Code Chapter Section 1208, site obstructions at intersections,

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specifically sections 1208-010 through 1208-040, to extend site line protections to pedestrians,

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Americans established a maintenance based standard for vegetation within the site triangle and updated outdated city engineer reference to city manager or design.

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So this addresses a couple things or what we propose staff proposes the two components, the main components of this ordinance were adopted in 1969 and in 1975 respectively.

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That was the last time that this was looked at.

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Those are vintage.

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They are vintage, yes.

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Anyways, so the address a couple things.

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So one is that there is no consideration for how would a

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sightline impact pedestrian traffic.

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And as we all know, that's a significant safety issue,

401
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especially in our city where we have a lot of kids and parents

402
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walking to and from school and people enjoying downtown in our

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trails.

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So pedestrians has to be part of that

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consideration whenever we're evaluating sight lines. The other is the broad characterization

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of vegetation, specifically trees. As we all know, a tree can be this big around or

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it can be this big around. And so this language addresses whether it materially obstructs

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those sight lines. In other words, is it properly maintained? Is there a sight line that can

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be seen through another way of looking at this is a bus stop pole is about the size, you

410
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know, two inches or two and a half inches.

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Are we talking about a tree that's the exact

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same size and considering that being an obstruction when a bus stop pole is no more obstruction than

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in that. So it allows for reasonableness to assess the sight lines and it changes the designation for

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evaluating these from city engineer to the city manager and or their designate. So really the people that are on the ground that are

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doing the work as far as evaluating things, working with the public, whether it's public work staff, public works director,

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or myself or our other staff member can make an accurate assessment without having to engage the services of a city engineer of which we do not have, so it's a contract service, so also to provide some cost savings there.

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Specifically, it's in section 1208010, the removal of trees, and I'll get later in the section where we add that back in.

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and the adding in of pedestrian as far as the evaluation criteria, and the adding of language that says trees may be maintained within the required visibility triangle provided that tree trunks, branches and foliage are maintained so not to obstruct visibility for vehicles and pedestrians approaching the intersection.

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Section 12-08020 adds the ability to be determined by the city manager or designee as not materially

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obstructing visibility.

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And then under 120-030 under notice to remove right to appeal, again, it designates the

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city manager or designee.

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And then under 1208-040, it again references city manager designee, puts in the appropriate

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reference section, and removes city engineer.

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Thank you.

426
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All right.

427
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Questions for staff?

428
00:35:51,610 --> 00:35:52,490
Yes, I do.

429
00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:52,970
Thank you.

430
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:59,970
Today, when I met with the city manager, we discussed the specific intersections of center

431
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March Creek, and Main Street and going across from the Grove Park to the Corral.

432
00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:11,850
How does this affect that? Because those are wide open.

433
00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:15,830
However, there are really hazardous places to cross.

434
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:18,670
Does this have a direct impact on this?

435
00:36:19,330 --> 00:36:22,410
As I understand, it wouldn't necessarily have a direct impact on that at all.

436
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:23,790
Thank you.

437
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:26,510
And then I just have one question.

438
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So this may mean that a tree may just need some maintenance where you're removing some limbs from the bottom of the tree without removing the entire tree, is that correct?

439
00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:38,790
That's correct.

440
00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:39,110
Okay.

441
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:40,390
Thank you.

442
00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:43,960
Other questions for staff.

443
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,740
All right.

444
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I will open public comment on this item.

445
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I do have one quick point.

446
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:51,120
Sorry.

447
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,580
I thought about it right when you were starting to say.

448
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:54,900
So I'm

449
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trying to figure out how I want to ask this.

450
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:07,430
the ordinance is clearly for residents and things in the city.

451
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:12,810
What about city-owned things or things of the city maintenance staff are responsible for?

452
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:15,030
Clearly, you're not going to find yourselves.

453
00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:19,950
But a lot of the sight lines are at intersections where it's in the L&D.

454
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I guess we could use the tool and encourage residents to use that to let you guys know that that needs to be trimmed down.

455
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because that's where I see a lot is in the intersections that we have in the city and different streets.

456
00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:33,890
Okay, thank you.

457
00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:39,250
Yeah, I've actually reached out to, I think yourself and others and for those areas.

458
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I think we have, and the residents have more eyes to present those things.

459
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So to the extent that we see it, I think it's just helpful.

460
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:48,090
Yeah, I've done the same.

461
00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:49,030
Okay, thank you.

462
00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:55,830
Okay, public comments on item 6E.

463
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Seeing none in the room and none online close public comment

464
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Any further discussion

465
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All right looking for a motion of continuance

466
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I'll move to continue. I don't succeed

467
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second

468
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Would we please call the roll

469
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Councilmember Diaz. Yes, Councilmember Truppiano. Yes, Councilmember Tillman. Hi vice mayor and yet. Yes mayor one

470
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Okay.

471
00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,430
Motion carries 5-0.

472
00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:29,390
All right.

473
00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:32,290
We are moving on to item 6-F.

474
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:37,210
I will open the public hearing and turn it over to our chief.

475
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:38,530
Thank you, Mayor.

476
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:48,070
Six-F is creating a new municipal, Clayton Municipal Code, Chapter 17.70, special event permits

477
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:54,310
to establish a permit process for events requiring closure of a public right away or diversion of

478
00:38:54,310 --> 00:39:03,650
traffic distinct from administrative temporary use permits under chapter 16 points, 17.69, excuse me.

479
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:08,550
So this creates an entirely new chapter in our municipal code.

480
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:20,390
It is modeled off temporary use permits, but it is to allow staff to separately and independently address these types of events.

481
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:30,130
Special events, as proposed by this ordinance, would be any event that requires the closure of the street or change of right away.

482
00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:50,170
For example, October Fest, a parade, those kind of things where additional planning is required specifically by part of the police department and public works to arrange to make those logistical arrangements and requires a different approach to safety and security for those types of events.

483
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:55,590
This allows staff that have to process these applications.

484
00:39:55,590 --> 00:40:01,730
One is to have separate applications, so we have a much more streamlined process.

485
00:40:02,010 --> 00:40:05,750
Currently, the existing application process like covers everything.

486
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:08,470
And so that's difficult for the public.

487
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:13,610
They don't know what part do I need to fill out, what part I need to create a lot of confusion.

488
00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:29,290
that confusion then rolls downhill to staff who then need to help the community navigate that and then it creates just additional paperwork that we're all having to navigate and making sure that we have the appropriate things checked off and fulfilled.

489
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:32,770
This simplifies that by adding this ordinance.

490
00:40:37,850 --> 00:40:43,390
Specifically, and it also adds a violation section, which is incredibly important.

491
00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:54,250
It's consistent with the rest of our municipal code where we require permits to undertake certain type of events or buildings or projects.

492
00:40:55,450 --> 00:41:10,270
Currently, this section does not have a penalty section, this adds in that section, and specifically with special events when we're talking about closure of roadways and diversion of right of way.

493
00:41:10,270 --> 00:41:20,730
If there's a violation on the part of the event organizer, that could lead to significant safety risks to the public.

494
00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:28,030
And this allows the city to have some remediation to that and enforceability of that with some teeth to it.

495
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,450
The sections, I won't read the entire ordinance.

496
00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:41,250
However, it does cover the purpose, which I've delineated there for the anything that

497
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:43,250
affects the traffic or right away.

498
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:50,450
It does specify the type of events that would fall under the special event permit,

499
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:54,290
and it makes provisions for violations.

500
00:41:55,290 --> 00:41:57,050
And I'm open for questions.

501
00:41:59,010 --> 00:42:00,450
Questions for staff?

502
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:02,490
I just had one question, Chief.

503
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:06,950
So there is no fiscal impact by changing this.

504
00:42:07,410 --> 00:42:09,150
Correct, we're not changing a fee structure.

505
00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:09,850
We're not-

506
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:10,110
Okay.

507
00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:12,890
Yep, it aligns with what currently is in place.

508
00:42:13,150 --> 00:42:16,290
It just allows us to bifurcate the two types of events.

509
00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:17,410
Got it, thank you.

510
00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:20,250
Other questions?

511
00:42:20,890 --> 00:42:25,730
The only other question that I had is the timeline for it.

512
00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:30,310
So do these permits also have to be done 45 days ahead of the event?

513
00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:36,990
Yes, okay the same same timelines would would be involved okay. I didn't see it in this one

514
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:41,170
I saw it in the temporary use one, but it's not in this one unless I'm missing it.

515
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:44,770
I can go back and and confirm

516
00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:46,890
because I believe that there's

517
00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:52,230
previous chapters that specify timelines, but I can confirm that okay. Thank you.

518
00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:57,350
Is that timeline no later than, is it also in no earlier than?

519
00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:03,870
I would have to pull up the exact language if you can give me a minute, I can take a look at it, but it basically provides a guideline for staff.

520
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:06,530
So we can provide exceptions to that.

521
00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:21,450
If it's an event that we're familiar with or doesn't require a heavy lift, we can work with the public and I think that's the spirit of what we engage with the community in, but we ask for 45 days so that everybody has an opportunity to review this properly.

522
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:24,070
And then the only other question I had are examples of violations.

523
00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:26,110
I'm sorry.

524
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:27,430
Violation examples?

525
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:29,810
Can you give us some violation examples?

526
00:43:30,090 --> 00:43:30,210
Yes.

527
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:37,870
For example, if under a special event permit, the event organizers required to have security and they don't.

528
00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:40,550
Or the security does not fulfill their responsibilities.

529
00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:47,850
Or if they're to provide volunteers at a particular location that deals with the event and

530
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:52,430
And they're not there and that causes some issue, either additional work by staff,

531
00:43:52,970 --> 00:43:58,010
law enforcement, or causes some type of incident we now have the ability to enforce that.

532
00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:59,170
Thank you.

533
00:43:59,890 --> 00:44:10,050
And this, what Councilmember Chabiano is asking, is it consistent with the language in all of our other fee schedules so that they don't conflict?

534
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:22,830
Yes, so this would be consistent with our temporary use permit and other, other similar type permitting processes that have a penalty clause.

535
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:29,890
So the language was taken out of our existing ordinance to put in here, or existing municipal code, excuse me.

536
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:33,020
Okay, sounds good.

537
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,760
Any other questions or staff?

538
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,440
All right. Public comment on this item 6F.

539
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:48,200
Look at this. It's the first question.

540
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,280
You have three minutes. Thank you. So reading over this.

541
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,520
I have some concerns regarding residents' first amendment right to assembly. This ordinance would include, let's see here, it's kind of small on my phone. Any other organized assembly of persons that assembles or travels in unison for any purpose upon any city sidewalk. So, would that mean that a small gathering of individuals

542
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,960
individuals who are protesting, let's say on the sidewalk in front of the Grove Park

543
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,100
would be in violation of this if they did not receive a permit.

544
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,200
Does that mean that how many individuals would that include?

545
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,260
Is there a minimum number, would that mean that three individuals who decided to get together

546
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:55,580
and go for a walk and happen to be discussing something political or something religious could

547
00:45:55,580 --> 00:46:00,860
would be in violation of this, if they didn't obtain a permit, if they were, let's say,

548
00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:06,960
walking slowly, three abreast across the sidewalk and impeding individuals from being able

549
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,840
to walk in the sidewalk.

550
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:18,380
It's just the specificity combined with the vagueness of this makes me concerned that, although

551
00:46:18,380 --> 00:46:24,700
the spirit of the ordinance might be interpreted one way, that later individuals or other police

552
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:30,020
These chiefs or council members might be able to interpret this in a different way that

553
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:33,980
inhibits people's right to free speech or free assembly.

554
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:43,780
I'm hoping that on September 1st, I have a more organized thing to say, but that's just

555
00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:44,620
my initial thoughts.

556
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,300
Thank you.

557
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:53,300
I would have one comment, but I will turn it over if, well, actually, no, that's not what

558
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:53,780
I'm supposed to do.

559
00:46:53,780 --> 00:46:55,980
Is there any other public comment on this item?

560
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,800
Any public comment online?

561
00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:05,170
I jumped again.

562
00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:07,450
None.

563
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:11,650
Okay, no additional public comment.

564
00:47:11,650 --> 00:47:14,610
Then I will close public comment on 6F.

565
00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:18,370
Would we like to discuss anything additional

566
00:47:18,370 --> 00:47:20,930
relating to this proposed ordinance?

567
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,380
I would like to highlight one of the line items here.

568
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:39,040
And it is the detail of what events require a special event permit that would cause this.

569
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:47,940
Under item 17.7.0.0 to I as in Iceland, I guess.

570
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:56,580
What it talks about, the thing that gives me comfort here because I'm a big first amendment

571
00:47:56,580 --> 00:47:57,000
person.

572
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,960
So I would be really aghast if we were impeding that.

573
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:08,680
But what it does do is it talks about the conditions by which these may be required and

574
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:16,240
it lists them and they involve the closure or impeding of the public right of way.

575
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,280
And so if an activity does not require a closure of the public right of way, if it does not

576
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:41,360
not require a diversion of traffic, if it is consistent with the normal or usual traffic controls and it is not likely to impede or obstruct or impair interfere with the free use of a public right of way, then this would not apply.

577
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:50,300
So I think what we're really talking about is if you're blocking people from using the right of way,

578
00:48:50,300 --> 00:49:00,220
then it is appropriate to involve staff to say, hey, let's allow you to do that in a way that is consistent with public safety.

579
00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:03,480
I think that's the intent, and that's how, that is my rating,

580
00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:10,990
and we can talk about this again after we continue the ordinance.

581
00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:17,610
So, if there's no other discussion, if the chief would like to make any comment, you're welcome, but you're not required.

582
00:49:18,890 --> 00:49:23,450
My comment would be very consistent with that, and I appreciate the concern being raised.

583
00:49:23,590 --> 00:49:24,930
We want to be very sensitive to that.

584
00:49:25,090 --> 00:49:37,910
It's something that is paramount to protecting the liberties and rights of our community regardless of someone's perspective or what they want to say, and the police department fully supports that.

585
00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:47,830
And what was mentioned here is exactly that, that if it's essentially not using technical term,

586
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:52,190
but if it spills into the right of way where it causes issues for traffic or travel,

587
00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:58,350
or what would otherwise be an area of conveyance, then that's where that we would need,

588
00:49:58,470 --> 00:50:01,670
we would want to be involved and we would want the ordinance to support that,

589
00:50:01,950 --> 00:50:05,090
so that the appropriate safety measures could be put in place.

590
00:50:05,090 --> 00:50:10,870
But somebody using the sidewalk to demonstrate or express their opinion would not fall

591
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:14,750
under that, under this, unless it had exceeded that capacity.

592
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:18,450
It exceeded what capacity?

593
00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:25,170
In other words, it obstructed the roadway, obstructed the right of way.

594
00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:27,690
As the ordinance lays out.

595
00:50:27,950 --> 00:50:31,810
So, then, to, if Mr. Flores, okay, thank you.

596
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:32,950
I don't want to claim a gate.

597
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:37,830
So, to his example, if there are people who are protesting and they're walking

598
00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:39,330
in the street, this would apply to them.

599
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:39,850
Correct.

600
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:40,290
Okay.

601
00:50:42,290 --> 00:50:43,690
Not allowed to block the street.

602
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:50,110
but they could plan in advance and get a special permit and then block the street.

603
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:51,190
Okay. Correct. Yes.

604
00:50:55,570 --> 00:51:01,350
Sorry. All right. We've already done public comment. So looking for a motion

605
00:51:01,350 --> 00:51:04,590
of continuance for item 6F. For

606
00:51:07,570 --> 00:51:12,130
continuance of item 6F. All right. I'll second. Would you please

607
00:51:12,130 --> 00:51:17,610
call the roll. Councilmember Diaz. Councilmember Trupiano. Yes. Councilmember Tellman.

608
00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:18,090
Aye.

609
00:51:18,370 --> 00:51:19,190
Vice Mayor Nia.

610
00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:19,770
Yes.

611
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:20,390
Mayor 1.

612
00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:22,190
Motion carries 5-0.

613
00:51:22,570 --> 00:51:22,970
All right.

614
00:51:24,350 --> 00:51:28,410
Moving on to item 6G, 6G.

615
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:33,970
I would open the public hearing and turn it over to our chief.

616
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:35,050
Thank you, Mayor.

617
00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:35,990
Item 6G.

618
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,290
This is to re-numerate or re-number.

619
00:51:41,290 --> 00:51:57,150
Clayton Municipal Code 1770 Temporities permits to 17.69 amending sections, 17.69010 and 17.69020 to distinguish

620
00:51:57,150 --> 00:52:03,290
temporary use permits from special event permits and remove parades and block parties as conditionally

621
00:52:03,290 --> 00:52:14,090
terminated temporary uses in adding section 1769070, violation penalty to establish infraction penalty for violations of temporary use permits.

622
00:52:14,410 --> 00:52:29,790
So temporary use permits was previously 17.70 due to the gap within the municipal code, we felt it appropriate to re-number that so that it all made sense so that it would now become 1769.

623
00:52:30,430 --> 00:52:59,390
And then we amended, we recommend amending the language in the ordinance to remove reference to the closure of streets and the type of events that would require the closure of streets of the right away, adds clarifying language, temporary use permits are to be used for events that do not require the full or partial closure of any public right away diversion of traffic or changes to the normal or usual traffic regulations or controls.

624
00:52:59,390 --> 00:53:03,370
And as I spoke about earlier, this is to simplify this process.

625
00:53:03,590 --> 00:53:07,930
Make a much more streamlined and straightforward, both for the public and for staff.

626
00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:16,810
The removal of parades, block parties, as the listed permitted uses under this ordinance.

627
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:28,010
And then add the violation penalty section 1769070, which would be consistent with special use permits or special events.

628
00:53:28,010 --> 00:53:29,330
Excuse me, permits.

629
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:32,330
We'll take your questions.

630
00:53:33,210 --> 00:53:34,210
Questions for staff?

631
00:53:35,250 --> 00:53:37,250
This seems very consistent with the prior.

632
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:40,610
It'd be kind of odd to not do this one when we did the other.

633
00:53:40,810 --> 00:53:42,870
However, renumeration is the right word.

634
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:43,270
So,

635
00:53:46,610 --> 00:53:48,010
all right, no questions for staff.

636
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:50,150
I will open public comment.

637
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:52,790
Anyone have any public comment on renumeration?

638
00:53:55,820 --> 00:53:57,980
There's no public comment in the room nor online.

639
00:53:58,460 --> 00:54:00,760
So I will close public comment, bring it back.

640
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,560
If there's no discussion, that emotion for continuance would be great.

641
00:54:04,940 --> 00:54:12,640
I just have one thing, so what be, why was parades removed?

642
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:17,360
Under that section, under temporary sprints.

643
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,180
It's additionally permitted uses.

644
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,500
Yeah, so that would now fall under special events.

645
00:54:22,780 --> 00:54:28,320
Okay, because it would require the adjustments to the roadway or right of way.

646
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,500
Thank you.

647
00:54:31,850 --> 00:54:32,270
All right.

648
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:35,870
A motion for continuance.

649
00:54:36,090 --> 00:54:40,190
I'll move from vote to continue item 6G.

650
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:41,630
I'll second.

651
00:54:42,270 --> 00:54:43,450
All right, would you please call the roll.

652
00:54:43,870 --> 00:54:44,970
Council member Diaz.

653
00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:45,230
Yes.

654
00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:46,710
Council member Trupeano.

655
00:54:46,990 --> 00:54:48,210
Yes. Council member Tillman.

656
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:48,610
Aye.

657
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:49,710
Vice Mayor Anya.

658
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:50,070
Yes.

659
00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:50,770
Mayor Wan.

660
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:51,250
Aye.

661
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:52,570
Motion carries 5-0.

662
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:53,790
Okay.

663
00:54:54,130 --> 00:54:59,270
That concludes the parade of ordinance continuances.

664
00:54:59,650 --> 00:54:59,970
Do you see anything?

665
00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:04,130
All right.

666
00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:07,050
Oh, yes, no, no, we continued it.

667
00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:08,510
We were continuing, okay.

668
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:19,570
All right, so item 7a is resolution for a revised city standard street name signs.

669
00:55:20,110 --> 00:55:21,650
Would you like to kick us off?

670
00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:22,710
I will kick it off.

671
00:55:23,330 --> 00:55:31,630
So, if you remember a few months ago, our police department helped us identify a number of maintenance issues that needed to be taken care of.

672
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:41,110
crosswalks, missing signs, the bot stots in front of fire plugs, a litany of different

673
00:55:41,110 --> 00:55:41,350
things.

674
00:55:41,570 --> 00:55:43,610
One of the items was missing street signs.

675
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:50,110
And so we discussed that evening briefly about landing on a permanent design and style

676
00:55:50,110 --> 00:55:52,910
of street sign before we started ordering them.

677
00:55:53,630 --> 00:56:00,010
So Craig, our public works director, has been working with a company and he's brought

678
00:56:00,010 --> 00:56:04,750
We've got some examples to share with you and hopefully this evening we can land on a design.

679
00:56:05,350 --> 00:56:14,650
If we can, then we will move forward with all the faded, broken stolen street signs and get those ordered and re-installed.

680
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:16,570
So I'll turn it over to Mr. Blythe.

681
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:23,350
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

682
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:25,690
I'm Craig Blythe, Director of Public Works.

683
00:56:26,050 --> 00:56:31,930
The item before you tonight is a proposed update to the city's standard plan S-TAC 1-8 for street name signs.

684
00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:37,810
And before getting into the specific changes, I wanted to provide a little context about

685
00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:40,450
this standard and why we have it.

686
00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:45,930
Street name signs are considered official traffic control devices because drivers rely

687
00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:49,590
on traffic signs to communicate information quickly and consistently.

688
00:56:50,290 --> 00:56:59,030
There is a regulatory framework governing how these signs are designed and installed.

689
00:56:59,030 --> 00:57:04,230
At the federal level, the federal highway administration publishes the manual on uniform

690
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:08,870
traffic control devices commonly referred to as the MUTCD.

691
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:15,610
The purpose of this document or standard is uniformity, whether someone is driving

692
00:57:15,610 --> 00:57:21,650
in Clayton or another community, traffic control devices are recognizable, legible, and can

693
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:23,950
communicate information in a consistent way.

694
00:57:23,950 --> 00:57:30,470
In California, CalTrans implements the MUTCD and calls it California and UTCD.

695
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:39,730
And this document that CalTrans implemented became effective in January of this year, so January 2026.

696
00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:55,350
The city's current street name sign standard dates back to 2008, and like the city manager said earlier this year, city staff completed a traffic sign maintenance review and identified a number of faded missing or

697
00:57:55,350 --> 00:57:57,470
or otherwise deficient signs throughout the city.

698
00:57:58,230 --> 00:58:00,390
As we begin preparing to replace those signs,

699
00:58:00,650 --> 00:58:03,310
staff reviewed existing street name sign standards

700
00:58:03,310 --> 00:58:06,670
again against our current traffic control requirements.

701
00:58:07,450 --> 00:58:09,790
What is proposed is not a wholesale change

702
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:11,550
to the appearance of Clayton signs.

703
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:14,910
We are keeping the recognizable brown background

704
00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:17,530
and white lettering while modernizing

705
00:58:17,530 --> 00:58:19,250
the materials lettering and fabrication.

706
00:58:20,410 --> 00:58:24,070
The biggest change is moving from an unreflective brown background

707
00:58:24,070 --> 00:58:27,430
to a retro-reflective brown background and white lettering.

708
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:33,150
This will significantly improve visibility at night and during low light conditions.

709
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:39,050
In addition to helping motorists and pedestrians, better traffic identification can assist police,

710
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:44,270
fire, EMS, and other public safety personnel when responding to emergencies.

711
00:58:46,450 --> 00:58:53,590
We're also proposing to replace the existing PT Barnum style lettering with the FHWA standard alphabet.

712
00:58:53,590 --> 00:58:58,510
and use the proper upper and lower case lettering consistent with current standards.

713
00:58:59,230 --> 00:59:04,090
The revised standard gives public work some flexibility to select the appropriate lettering

714
00:59:04,090 --> 00:59:09,810
size alphabet series and sign dimensions based on the roadway, the speed, the street,

715
00:59:10,090 --> 00:59:12,450
and applicable MUTCD requirements.

716
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:20,550
Finally, we're proposing to eliminate the existing rustic jagged edge treatment and move to a conventional

717
00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:21,770
smooth edge design.

718
00:59:21,770 --> 00:59:26,910
The rustic edge is primarily ornamental and adds a fabrication cost.

719
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:34,290
Based on current pricing, moving to the smooth edge design is expected to reduce the fabrication cost by 33% each sign.

720
00:59:36,270 --> 00:59:49,690
If approved, the 13th street name sign locations identified during our May Maintenance review would be the first locations replace under the new standard representing approximately 26 street name signs.

721
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:57,070
Existing signs that are still in good condition would remain in place and would not be replaced simply because a standard is changing.

722
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:59,970
Funding for this work is already included

723
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:27,940
In the adopted budget, and no additional appropriation is required. Staff recommends that the city council adopt resolution number 35, 20, 26, approving the revised standard plan S-18. Let's see, into my presentation, but here are some examples. We'll start with the old. You can see jagged edge. What the heck? Not reflective. Hard to see it now. We have a, we have a number of these throughout the city.

724
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:31,640
And put on your sunglasses for this one.

725
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,100
This is the new reflective brown reflective white with a border.

726
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,500
Shining.

727
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,540
So a lot easier to read, especially for our emergency personnel in responding to any emergencies.

728
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:46,720
This isn't the sign that's going to go on every street corner.

729
01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:50,060
This is an example of what a compliant sign looks like.

730
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,180
So as the road, the speed of a street is lower, letters can be smaller.

731
01:00:57,180 --> 01:01:05,760
As the speed of the road is faster than letters can be letters should be larger as cars are passing at a faster speed and need more time to see it

732
01:01:08,260 --> 01:01:11,320
So I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have

733
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,360
Questions for staff

734
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:24,590
The only one that perplexes me. How did it get the name PT Barnum is that mean is there is this going to be some sort of a circus?

735
01:01:24,590 --> 01:01:25,490
There are what

736
01:01:26,930 --> 01:01:29,330
I'm not sure that's within the scope of our discussion

737
01:01:29,330 --> 01:01:39,730
Well, it's referenced in the report that was the that was the font referenced in the city standard approved by council in 2008 better than windings

738
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:49,310
This is an exactness I get right. It's an example of the new recommended standard sign

739
01:01:49,310 --> 01:01:53,150
What what is the name of that font? It's called highway gothic

740
01:01:53,810 --> 01:01:58,030
And it's a standard and it's a standard font used across the state

741
01:01:58,030 --> 01:02:05,530
no no fans of hellbedica here. Sorry now this is really nice. Craig I do have a

742
01:02:05,530 --> 01:02:12,130
question for you so particularly in the downtown I noticed signs like that

743
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:17,910
are directional for the Clayton Historical Museum or so I don't see those on

744
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:28,010
the list are those the brown and you know I love 3-1-1 or see click fix can I

745
01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:37,030
I'd take pictures and then upload it there, or would you prefer a list of other directional signs in the downtanks?

746
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:39,490
I noticed some of those are really faded and-

747
01:02:41,790 --> 01:02:45,450
I think it would be better to send it through the workflow so they can handle it within a little.

748
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:50,930
So the first step in this was engaging council and approving the new standard.

749
01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:56,210
Now that if we approve the standard, then we can take meaningful steps to start replacing

750
01:02:56,210 --> 01:03:02,050
seen replacing faded signs that the first focus would be the traffic study performed in May.

751
01:03:02,590 --> 01:03:11,370
That's going to be the first batch I would say to replace so we can close that out for council and make some progress towards sign replacement.

752
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:26,960
I just wanted to say it looks great, it's a long time coming and speaking of public safety, it will really help the ambulance service who sometimes takes 35 minutes to come to Clayton.

753
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:33,740
Because there's not enough of them in our county and they come from other areas and they look at those street signs

754
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,140
Even though they're supposed to be they have a map, but they don't have the time. They're in a hurry

755
01:03:38,140 --> 01:03:43,220
That's gonna be really nice and the same for our fire station. We often have

756
01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:47,100
Firemen assigned here that are just here for a day or two

757
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:52,100
Because they can't fill it with regular people that want to be assigned here all the time

758
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:55,520
And they're also looking at those signs and they're hard to see

759
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,420
They've told me about it before, so that's a welcome to our town.

760
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:10,130
I just have two things, one, several years ago we jumped the gun a little bit when we

761
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:16,030
were doing our traffic lights and we installed signs that said lights, time, two speed limit,

762
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:19,610
and that was our intent, but we never did that, so hazard.

763
01:04:21,230 --> 01:04:26,430
So we could not get the technology to work correctly, but we still have the signs.

764
01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:30,850
So as we're doing this, if we want to remove those, that would be great.

765
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:34,990
Second, what are we doing with the old signs?

766
01:04:37,890 --> 01:04:40,810
They're currently in the sign graveyard.

767
01:04:41,170 --> 01:04:42,130
Are we going to dispose of them?

768
01:04:42,770 --> 01:04:45,790
I would recommend that we recycle them.

769
01:04:46,130 --> 01:04:46,850
Can I have one?

770
01:04:48,810 --> 01:04:50,770
Or can we auction them off?

771
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:51,990
Maybe somebody would.

772
01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:53,490
It's like a souvenir.

773
01:04:54,010 --> 01:04:57,590
If we were going to dispose of them, then sure.

774
01:04:57,590 --> 01:05:01,950
But if we're going to actually get some benefit, then we should do that first.

775
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:05,330
You can find it on eBay maybe next Tuesday.

776
01:05:05,890 --> 01:05:09,210
I mean, we need revenue, I say.

777
01:05:09,590 --> 01:05:13,070
If that is available, then that would be wonderful.

778
01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:17,710
If they were just going to go into the dumpster, then feel free to let me know,

779
01:05:17,830 --> 01:05:19,630
and I'll visit the dumpster afterwards.

780
01:05:24,010 --> 01:05:25,690
All right, thank you very much.

781
01:05:25,690 --> 01:05:31,310
Those do look quite snazzy, so where are we?

782
01:05:32,010 --> 01:05:33,390
Any other questions for staff?

783
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,500
Public comment on this item.

784
01:05:42,510 --> 01:05:44,970
All right, no public comment in the room, nor online.

785
01:05:45,410 --> 01:05:50,610
So I will close public comment, and this one we are not continuing.

786
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:56,810
So I think we are looking for a motion to approve the new standard,

787
01:05:56,810 --> 01:06:01,450
As described, is there a motion to approve the new standard?

788
01:06:01,710 --> 01:06:13,110
I'll make a motion that we adopt resolution 35-2026, approving the Revise City Standard Plan S-18, street name signs.

789
01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:13,910
Second.

790
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:16,370
All right, would you please call the roll.

791
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:18,230
Council member Diaz?

792
01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:18,510
Yes.

793
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:19,770
Council member Trupeano?

794
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:20,250
Yes.

795
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:21,370
Council member Tillman?

796
01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:21,770
Aye.

797
01:06:22,070 --> 01:06:22,870
Vice Mayor Anya?

798
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:23,290
Yes.

799
01:06:23,410 --> 01:06:23,770
Mayor One.

800
01:06:24,070 --> 01:06:24,190
Aye.

801
01:06:24,270 --> 01:06:25,450
Motion carries 5-0.

802
01:06:25,450 --> 01:06:29,730
All right, that concludes item 7a, next is item 7b.

803
01:06:30,070 --> 01:06:34,630
This is a reclassification of, actually,

804
01:06:41,350 --> 01:06:42,230
all right.

805
01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:52,460
All right, this is 7b, the reclassification of a position within the staff, I believe our city manager will kick us off.

806
01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:53,620
Sir, thank you.

807
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,760
So there are three recommendations and three resolutions attached to this.

808
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:05,540
one item. First and foremost, as you're all aware, a few years ago, we made a switch

809
01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:09,740
to HDL to be our business license vendor.

810
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,460
We have had some complications. I know personally

811
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:27,720
Councilmember Diaz had some struggles with HDL. I worked with a few business folks, you

812
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:42,380
We do as well, Mayor One, when council member Trupiano was there, she and I worked with a handful of businesses that could not accomplish just getting their business license renewed.

813
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,720
There were some struggles.

814
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:53,580
We've had numerous people on the third floor, and let's just say we're not happy with HDL and the service and the answers that they were providing.

815
01:07:53,580 --> 01:08:00,420
It occupied a lot of time from our community development technician, our admin services director and myself.

816
01:08:00,940 --> 01:08:04,120
It has not been a good program.

817
01:08:04,820 --> 01:08:10,280
So we have given HDL notice that we are going to exit that contract.

818
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:18,600
And the item this evening is a reclassification of the community development technician to a community development specialist.

819
01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:46,440
Essentially, those duties at HDL was performing will be absorbed into the city operation as it once was prior to engaging HDL, so that if people need help, they need assistance, they can come to city hall, the community development specialists will work with them, assist them, get them what they need, they have questions, we can answer those questions and just facilitate a much better customer experience and provide folks what they want.

820
01:08:47,020 --> 01:08:54,080
The other issue that we were seeing with HDL because they were the more money they collect, the more they make.

821
01:08:54,900 --> 01:09:00,220
So we were seeing instances where they were trying to double dip for a variety of reasons on certain businesses,

822
01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:03,340
of sending a lot of folks.

823
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:11,380
So we want to treat our business community with kindness and respect, and so bringing this in-house will do that.

824
01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:19,300
There are a couple of changes that we have to do if council agrees with my recommendations

825
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:25,440
of this reclassification number one adopting a new salary schedule and reporting that to

826
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,300
CalPERS as required.

827
01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:33,580
The increase in this position at top step is just under $2,000 a month.

828
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:44,320
We are currently paying HDL over $30,000 a year, so by making this change, essentially year one we'll be saving a little over $6,000.

829
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:57,560
So providing better service, getting this accomplished by bringing it in a house and eliminating the rising cost of what HDL could bring in.

830
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,440
This also aligns with council's goal of the positions of being at 85% of median.

831
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,400
This salver scale that's in your staff report achieves that.

832
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:13,200
And it's shown in your attachment for what would be the new updated salary schedule.

833
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:19,400
And the third piece is an amendment to the miscellaneous memorandum of understanding.

834
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:25,300
The MOU would just be simply changing community development tech to community development specialists.

835
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:28,520
So that's the only amendment that would happen within the MOU.

836
01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:32,760
With that, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

837
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,820
Questions for staff?

838
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:43,440
So in the staff report, the background, it says the city has terminated the contract with HDL,

839
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,160
but we haven't terminated it yet.

840
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,180
We've just given that notice.

841
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:48,920
We've notified them, okay.

842
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,180
And I think that we signed that in October 20.

843
01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:56,160
Yes, so we have some transition time between now and October.

844
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:03,520
Okay, that's just so it's a nice smooth transition, because we normally do renewals in June or July as it or, yeah.

845
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,120
Oh, it is year-round?

846
01:11:06,420 --> 01:11:10,000
Oh, I always get it January is a big month.

847
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,240
January is a big month, okay, because I must be in that second.

848
01:11:13,820 --> 01:11:15,160
Okay, thank you, that's it.

849
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:17,220
So, other questions for staff?

850
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:23,100
No, question is just I want to compliment Chris on the staff to address a problem that has

851
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:35,780
It's created so many issues, I know some of us have involved directly, but out there, there's a number of people that call on a regular basis that we're throwing their hands up in the air and trying to get their license renewed, and we want them to be in compliance.

852
01:11:36,340 --> 01:11:38,040
Thank you, on their behalf.

853
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:53,080
Thank you, thank you very much.

854
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:58,260
Questions and answers and not have to wait for a contract company to call them back?

855
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:07,400
Are you telling me that the proposal to outsource didn't save money, make it better, and get more revenue like was promised?

856
01:12:07,780 --> 01:12:10,300
That's exactly what I'm saying, no way.

857
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:15,500
Council Member Tongue.

858
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,660
Thank you, I just have a couple of questions.

859
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:26,740
The city's new web platforms e-commerce site you're saying is going to be used to collect the business license application fees.

860
01:12:26,740 --> 01:12:29,380
Is that up and running and working currently?

861
01:12:29,860 --> 01:12:31,240
It is in process.

862
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:31,960
Okay.

863
01:12:32,420 --> 01:12:32,600
Yes.

864
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,620
When will it be ready?

865
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:35,540
Before October.

866
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:36,240
Okay.

867
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,520
That's why we have, that's why we've built in the runway for the next couple of months.

868
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,240
Okay.

869
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,600
They're finishing up.

870
01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:54,060
It's called pads and that's kind of, that is the module that will do business license, facility rentals and some of those other needs that we have.

871
01:12:54,260 --> 01:12:54,480
Okay.

872
01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:00,620
Great. And while we still have HDL, or even as you guys were considering doing this,

873
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:06,280
do we know how many businesses still do not, are out of compliance, don't have their licenses, etc.?

874
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:12,200
They can provide, they've agreed to provide all the data to us.

875
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,840
So whether it's a current business or an expected non-compliant business,

876
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,400
we can get that data from them.

877
01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:19,840
Okay.

878
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:21,840
And then our person will follow up.

879
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,220
Okay.

880
01:13:22,220 --> 01:13:29,980
Okay, and then there was something else someone said that made me think of a question and I can't remember it now, maybe it'll come back to me.

881
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:37,840
Just one clarification, so the $6,000 Delta that you identified in software, that's not fully loaded though, right?

882
01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:41,280
So, no, no, that's just, that's not a salary, correct.

883
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:49,400
So, I mean, I just want to make sure there is a purge impact here, and that's not nothing for the $6,000.

884
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:55,960
It's, yeah, it's small because it's an existing employee who's just pay raise it's a marginal increase.

885
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:03,660
Yes, correct, but okay, just keeping clarifying that's the salary number, not the fully loaded number.

886
01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:10,880
Yes, and I think when we originally signed that agreement with HDL, I'm glad you asked that question,

887
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:17,960
Councilmember Tillman, because I think we asked for a guarantee that they would transfer

888
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:23,440
all files, documentation, number of businesses, those out of compliance.

889
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:28,760
This was an extended discussion that I had with them because I said everyone exits contracts

890
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,740
eventually so how do we get our data back?

891
01:14:30,820 --> 01:14:31,080
You did.

892
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,120
You did.

893
01:14:32,340 --> 01:14:36,320
And they included provisions within the contract to do so.

894
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:36,840
Yes.

895
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:38,320
All right.

896
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,260
I remember.

897
01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:46,540
You have a question. All right. What is the time split between the duties adding on these additional duties?

898
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:53,920
So I'm going to assume that they are not that they have the bandwidth to take this on, but what will be the division time split?

899
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,200
So this is

900
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,960
He's it's kind of

901
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
Swiss Army knife of positions because this is the person who does code enforcement, does the over-the-counter work with permits and kind of assist our senior planner with that permit process. So he's already doing a lot of counter work. So we're kind of encapsulating those two together. And once pads is fully operational, people don't have to come in. They'll be able to do it online. They'll be able to use the system through our website.

902
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:47,500
and so the occasion of him, most of his time is going to be making sure that the notices have gone out, that they have renewed, reaching out to those folks that have not renewed to let them know, hey, here's your first warning and so on and so forth.

903
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:55,880
So, there will be an increase in kind of a shift in his duties, but we're thinking that

904
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,660
it's going to compile with his current counter duties at the same time.

905
01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:04,060
And then I think there's going to be a ramp up at the beginning to get people, because

906
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:09,620
again, we're shifting the system on all of our folks, and it's going to take a little bit

907
01:16:09,620 --> 01:16:11,020
to get them onto the platform.

908
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:13,920
Once they're on the platform, the renewal should be.

909
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:20,400
And so his dedicated time at the counter for just business license will diminish too.

910
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,560
Okay, thanks.

911
01:16:23,020 --> 01:16:26,780
It'd be like the restaurants to have the QR code right there that you could just self serve.

912
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,380
All right, cool.

913
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,500
Okay, no other questions for staff?

914
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:35,540
Public comment on this item?

915
01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:42,030
No public comment in the room, nor online.

916
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:45,970
So I will close public comment for items 7B.

917
01:16:45,970 --> 01:16:55,070
And bring it back, if there's no other further discussion, then I think we need a mo, we're looking for a motion for the three resolutions.

918
01:16:55,530 --> 01:17:04,690
I'll move approval of adoption of resolution number 36-2026, approving the reclassification of the community development

919
01:17:04,690 --> 01:17:15,410
technician to community development specialist, resolution number 37-2026, amending the miscellaneous employees memorandum of understanding.

920
01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:24,510
and Resolution No. 382026, adopting an amended Clayton salary schedule effective August

921
01:17:24,510 --> 01:17:33,630
18 today, 2026, in conformance with CalPERS requirement to provide a public, excuse me,

922
01:17:33,850 --> 01:17:36,730
provide a publicly available salary schedule.

923
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,220
I'll second that.

924
01:17:40,900 --> 01:17:42,520
Would we please hold the roll?

925
01:17:42,860 --> 01:17:44,040
Council member Diaz?

926
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:44,720
Yes.

927
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,060
Council member Trupiano?

928
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:46,540
Yes.

929
01:17:46,540 --> 01:17:47,580
Council Member Tillman.

930
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:47,980
Aye.

931
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,340
Vice Mayor Anya.

932
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:49,660
Yes.

933
01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:50,420
Mayor Wan.

934
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:50,820
Aye.

935
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,180
Motion carries 5-0.

936
01:17:52,820 --> 01:17:55,360
All right, that concludes item 7-B.

937
01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:57,860
Next is item 7-C.

938
01:17:58,620 --> 01:18:01,100
This is the designation of a voting delegate

939
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,820
and alternate delegate for the League of Counts cities,

940
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,460
2026 annual conference in Anaheim

941
01:18:07,460 --> 01:18:09,260
towards the end of September.

942
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,200
Is there a description?

943
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:23,240
The only description is the general assembly meeting is on the last day Friday morning there is one, there will be one item to vote on during that meeting.

944
01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:30,220
And so it is just, we have three council members attending this conference.

945
01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:39,140
Council member Tillman, vice mayor Ania and council member Diaz, I believe and correct me if I'm wrong, vice mayor Ania won't be there that Friday morning.

946
01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:45,480
So Council Member Diaz and Council Member Tillman will be available.

947
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,660
So I will turn it over to you for discussion and selection of the voting delegate.

948
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,340
Are we separating this with the actual thing that we're voting on?

949
01:18:54,440 --> 01:18:55,440
Are we talking about that at the same time?

950
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:58,240
I think it's in the staff report, it's talking about at the same time.

951
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:02,240
Okay, great.

952
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,240
Any questions for staff?

953
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:10,030
Public comment on this item?

954
01:19:10,030 --> 01:19:10,830
All

955
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:21,780
right, no public comment in the room, nor online, so I'll close public comment on item 7c and bring it back for discussion.

956
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:28,960
Does anyone want to raise your hand to be the voting delegate or the alternate?

957
01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:34,540
There are two choices given that Vice Mayor Ania is not going to be in attendance.

958
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,240
So you guys could flip for it.

959
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:43,000
I will offer my services to be there because I plan on being there for the full conference.

960
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:43,680
Okay.

961
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,040
As the voting delegate.

962
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,980
Okay, and I concur, that makes more sense.

963
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:56,800
I will actually be sitting on the Resolutions Committee and debating it the prior day, which is what happened

964
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:02,180
the last time with my presidential appointment, and there were some shenanigans that occurred with

965
01:20:02,180 --> 01:20:05,720
what we read in the packet versus what was discussed on the floor.

966
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,920
So, yes, I will be the alternate and I think he should be the delegate.

967
01:20:11,020 --> 01:20:15,500
Sounds great. Does anyone have any other recommendations? There's really only one.

968
01:20:17,500 --> 01:20:23,980
Down to. My niece is getting married. I'll wait no, we're not there yet.

969
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,520
We're still discussing. Still discussing? Okay, so that's good. Now I think, I mean it's Disneyland,

970
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:31,480
Land, you don't want to go?

971
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,740
That's not a, there's some conflicts going on at that time.

972
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,540
Okay, so then I think we, that seems pretty cool, reasonable.

973
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:48,760
Now the actual thing that's being discussed, does anyone have any comment on that?

974
01:20:50,420 --> 01:20:52,400
Would you like to share it with a group?

975
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:56,720
I'm glad Councilmember Tillman is going to be looking at this resolution because I think

976
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,660
It's in my opinion, it's a long time coming.

977
01:21:00,220 --> 01:21:19,140
With this resolution does, it's a resolution to support the establishing of a working group to evaluate a state constitutional amendment or another initiative to restore local housing and land use authority, bringing it back to the cities.

978
01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:28,020
cities, which Cal cities has not taken a stand, even though there's 419 cities, I wonder

979
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:32,280
how many cities want to restore it back to local use.

980
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,600
Cal cities has not done anything about that.

981
01:21:36,340 --> 01:21:41,900
So finally the city of Torrance and another city, there's a few cities.

982
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:50,020
Can you lay, there's a few cities now that want to do the working group to try to get Cal cities to move on?

983
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,180
Am I saying that correctly, Councilman Tillett?

984
01:21:55,180 --> 01:22:02,320
What's in the packet is a resolution that was submitted by the City of Marietta, and they have letters of concurrence from banning Calamesa,

985
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:08,620
Canyon Lake, Marano Valley, Norco, Torrance, and then a couple of mayors from specific cities.

986
01:22:08,620 --> 01:22:13,360
So, after that, they want to refer to the housing, community, and economic development committee.

987
01:22:14,060 --> 01:22:19,400
So, a lot can happen between now and then, but yeah, their letters of support are all in the document.

988
01:22:23,210 --> 01:22:28,570
I mean, this is like the smallest of baby steps I've ever seen, but that's fine, I suppose.

989
01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:32,970
I mean, you would think that CalCities represents cities, but this is actually the first time that I've seen it.

990
01:22:33,070 --> 01:22:34,270
So, that's great.

991
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:38,150
The step in the right direction will be at the smallest possible one, I think.

992
01:22:39,130 --> 01:22:47,410
So I think as a council, we would say to the voting delegates, we would be in favor of forming a committee to talk about stuff.

993
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,160
Yeah, we did that already.

994
01:22:57,780 --> 01:22:59,800
Does anyone dying to make public comment?

995
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,440
Yeah, we did, we did do it though.

996
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,900
I thought we did it on the delegate part, not on the second part.

997
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:07,700
It's just one part.

998
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:10,680
So that's why I said, like, are we doing it together?

999
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:16,220
there. But if anyone is dying to make public comment, like we can make an exception.

1000
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,280
You can make as many comments as you'd like.

1001
01:23:21,260 --> 01:23:27,740
You know, our housing element, our housing element is good to 2032, is that it?

1002
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,080
So we should start planning now because that's how long it takes the HDD to approve it.

1003
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:32,540
Is it 2031?

1004
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:40,440
Okay, so that gives us five years to get our legal California cities to try to get an

1005
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:55,640
amendment to that or legislators, because what a lot of people don't know and claim, do you know how much we spent to get our certification on a contract, 430,000?

1006
01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:02,340
four hundred and say four hundred thousand dollars. That could have went well to

1007
01:24:02,340 --> 01:24:07,940
balance it our budget, but we hired a consultant when the end didn't

1008
01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:16,100
produce. It was Senator Grayson. I was for his didn't Grayson. Senator Tim

1009
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:23,580
Grayson that we went to that helped us get that done. So I'm looking forward to

1010
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:28,480
or league of cities to do it much more in this case for us.

1011
01:24:28,700 --> 01:24:29,720
It'll help us a lot.

1012
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:30,840
Thank you.

1013
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:38,130
Well, we've already done public comment.

1014
01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:40,390
And so I think that we've expressed,

1015
01:24:40,850 --> 01:24:44,990
the council has expressed the collected desire

1016
01:24:44,990 --> 01:24:46,870
in favor of doing this thing.

1017
01:24:47,230 --> 01:24:50,310
And so we've selected or nominated, I guess,

1018
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:51,330
the voting and alternate.

1019
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:53,790
So I think we need a motion on those things.

1020
01:24:54,150 --> 01:24:55,910
If anyone would like to make a motion.

1021
01:24:56,930 --> 01:24:57,590
So moved.

1022
01:24:58,770 --> 01:24:59,450
Second.

1023
01:25:00,070 --> 01:25:01,830
Would you please call the roll.

1024
01:25:04,350 --> 01:25:05,470
Council member Rdias.

1025
01:25:05,770 --> 01:25:05,890
Yes.

1026
01:25:06,190 --> 01:25:07,270
Council member Trupiano.

1027
01:25:07,490 --> 01:25:07,650
Yes.

1028
01:25:08,010 --> 01:25:08,990
Council member Tillman.

1029
01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:10,490
Vice Mayor Ania.

1030
01:25:10,770 --> 01:25:10,930
Yes.

1031
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:11,810
Mayor Wan.

1032
01:25:12,150 --> 01:25:12,250
Aye.

1033
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:14,010
Motion carries 5-0.

1034
01:25:14,430 --> 01:25:14,810
Excellent.

1035
01:25:15,170 --> 01:25:17,730
That concludes item 7-C.

1036
01:25:18,250 --> 01:25:19,850
Next is item 8.

1037
01:25:20,050 --> 01:25:20,610
Adjournment.

1038
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:21,850
It is 8-25.

1039
01:25:22,710 --> 01:25:23,450
We're done.

1040
01:25:26,780 --> 01:25:27,300
8.