1 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:48,440 It being 6:00 p.m., I will call this meeting to order as the mayor pro tem 2 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,000 for the town of Clayton. I ask that you stand as you are able for the pledge of 3 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,760 allegiance and remain standing for the invocation. 4 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:04,680 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 5 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:10,920 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,920 justice for all. 7 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:20,720 » Let us pray. Lord, we thank you for this day and for 8 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:23,920 another opportunity to continue the work at hand. 9 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:28,600 We thank you for the town of Clayton and for all who live here. 10 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:33,000 Yes, we pray for our town, our mayor, each council member, town manager, and 11 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,440 every staff member who serve our community. 12 00:03:34,519 --> 00:03:39,600 Continue to give us wisdom to make fair choices 13 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,920 that would be the best for our town and each resident. Help us to work together 14 00:03:41,959 --> 00:03:47,680 with peace and unity as we seek common goals. 15 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Bless this meeting tonight that we will be pleasing unto you and 16 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,360 bring you glory. For it is in Jesus name we pray. Amen. 17 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,360 » Do we have any adjustments to the agenda? 18 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,160 » Uh yes, we'd like to add a closed session pursuant to General Statute 19 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:14,560 143-318.11.A.3 for a legal matter and five for a real 20 00:04:11,959 --> 00:04:14,560 estate matter. 21 00:04:16,280 --> 00:04:19,519 » Any other adjustments? 22 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:27,160 I have those adjustments noted and I can entertain a 23 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,240 motion to adopt the agenda. >> Motion. 24 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,560 » Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any 25 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,040 further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say I. 26 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:42,160 » I. >> Opposed like signed. Motion carries. 27 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Up next is your consent agenda. 28 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:48,400 » Motion to approve. >> Second. 29 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,360 » We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? 30 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Hearing none, all in favor say I. Opposed like signed. 31 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Motion carries. Up next we have Mr. Shelton presenting 32 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,080 our most recent episode of Clayton for you. 33 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,360 » Mayor Pro Tem, Town Council. Tonight we bring another episode of 34 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Clayton for you. Um tonight's episode is about 811 call 35 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:26,320 before you dig. Uh coming up is August 11th, which is National Call Before You 36 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Dig Day. And our star of the video is in the audience. She probably doesn't want 37 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:34,080 any attention, but she's back there, Ms. Lynette. So uh 38 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,080 we'll get this keyed up. 39 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:44,560 » Today on Clayton for you, we're talking about something small that makes a big 40 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:48,720 difference. [music] Calling 811 before you dig. Whether you're planting a tree, 41 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:53,240 installing [music] a fence, or starting a home project, there's one step you 42 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,600 should never skip. August 11th is National 811 Day, and it's a great 43 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:01,200 reminder to keep your project [music] safe and on track. 44 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:05,480 » Calling 811 is a free and easy way to protect yourself, your property, and 45 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:10,480 your [music] community. When you contact 811 at least 3 days before digging, 46 00:06:08,114 --> 00:06:12,720 [music] local crews come out to mark underground lines like water, sewer, 47 00:06:12,699 --> 00:06:17,360 » [music] >> electric, communications, and gas. 48 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:22,040 Those markings show you where it's safe to dig and where it's not. 49 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:26,280 Hitting a utility line can cause serious injuries, [music] costly repairs, and 50 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:30,800 even service outages for your neighborhood. In fact, across the 51 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:36,000 country, a utility line [music] is damaged every few minutes because 52 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:40,080 someone did not call before digging. Once your property is [music] marked, 53 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:44,040 you can move forward with your project. Just be sure to dig carefully and avoid 54 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,040 those marked areas. >> It's a simple step that helps keep 55 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:53,360 everyone [music] safe. So, before you break ground, remember to call 811 or 56 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:57,840 submit a request online. Learn more about safe digging at nc811.org. 57 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,360 » Thank you, guys. >> Great message. 58 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,840 » And in case you're wondering, those hydrants had to be flushed anyway, so 59 00:07:06,919 --> 00:07:13,840 that water needed to be poured out. >> I want to see you digging with the 60 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,840 shovel next time. 61 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Good job on that. Thank you. Good message. 62 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:25,600 From there, we jump all the way to item number 10, public comment. So, at this 63 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,680 time, I will open the floor for public comment. 64 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Anyone wishing to speak may come to the podium. Please state your name and 65 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,919 address for the record. Per the instructions published in the agenda, 66 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,080 each speaker has 3 minutes to offer comment. Thank you. 67 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:47,000 » Hey, good evening, my mayors. My name is Mike Edwards Twining. I live 68 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,960 at 40 Red Crabapple Court here in Clayton. 69 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,480 And I appreciate the opportunity to speak to you tonight. 70 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:59,440 I'd like to address what I believe is a significant transportation issue that 71 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:02,880 deserves attention now before it becomes a much larger and more expensive 72 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,480 problem. With the retail expansion along Business 73 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Highway 70 or Clayton Boulevard, specifically the construction of a new 74 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Target department store and a Costco warehouse adjacent to the existing 75 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Walmart, it is clear that traffic volumes will 76 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,960 increase substantially in this corridor. This is not a concern about future 77 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,560 traffic alone. The congestion already exists today. And 78 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:34,000 these new developments will only compound an issue that many Clayton 79 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:38,440 residents deal with every weekday. Anyone who travels that stretch of road, 80 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,880 especially between 3:00 and 6:30 on a weekday afternoon, 81 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,920 knows what I'm talking about. It's already congested. And it's a daily 82 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:51,680 reality. The addition of two major destination 83 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:57,200 retailers will only intensify those delays, creating longer travel times, 84 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:01,720 more difficult access for local businesses, 85 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:06,720 and increased safety concerns. Rather than waiting until this corridor 86 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:13,960 becomes gridlocked, I urge you to please take a proactive approach. Since the DOT 87 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:19,720 has full maintenance responsibility for Clayton Boulevard, I respectfully ask 88 00:09:16,839 --> 00:09:26,200 the Town Council to formally petition North Carolina DOT to evaluate and 89 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:30,080 prioritize a roadway widening project. Specifically, 90 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:35,360 I recommend adding one additional travel lane in each direction from 91 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:41,960 approximately 900 ft west of Town Center Boulevard to approximately 700 ft west 92 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:45,720 of the Culvers restaurant. If appropriate, 93 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:51,400 I also encourage the town to explore an encroachment agreement with the DOT if 94 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:56,800 that provides a more timely path toward improving this corridor. 95 00:09:53,560 --> 00:10:01,120 Good planning means anticipating growth, not simply reacting to it after 96 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:05,960 residents are already experiencing unacceptable congestion. 97 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:10,920 The rapid pace of development should be matched by equally thoughtful 98 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:16,240 transportation planning. Roads, intersections, and traffic capacity 99 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:20,520 should keep pace with the growth. Waiting until this corridor becomes a 100 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:26,440 traffic bottleneck is not in the public interest. Taking action now will help 101 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:31,520 preserve mobility, improve public safety, support our local businesses, 102 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,960 and demonstrate that Clayton is committed to responsible, coordinated 103 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:41,839 growth. Will you, our town council, commit to 104 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:47,040 formally requesting and advocating that the DOT widen this highway before 105 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:51,080 today's congestion becomes tomorrow's gridlock? 106 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Thank you for your time, your service to our community, and your consideration. 107 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Have a good evening. 108 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,200 » Thank you very much, sir. 109 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:13,839 » Hey, Micah Patterson, 215 Vincent Ridge Lane. I've been up here multiple times 110 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,480 at this point. You guys probably know me a little bit by now that I've been 111 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,480 talking multiple times about the flood camera issue. Here with a couple of 112 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,960 friends of mine today that will be able to talk a little bit more than I can 113 00:11:22,839 --> 00:11:26,839 because they haven't done it before. Um, 114 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:31,640 it's a good thing to be able to do this, obviously, but um, 115 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,640 what more can I can on some of these issues, you know, there's so many 116 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,600 citizens, there's the pros and cons of these cameras. Of course, they can be 117 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:44,200 used to help stopping crimes and catching criminals. 118 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:48,440 Um, but for a lot of people, it's pretty much tracking without a warrant 119 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:53,840 constantly every single vehicle that passes by. The Supreme Court recently 120 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:59,320 ruled almost a couple years ago in the case of Chatrie versus the United States 121 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:04,600 that collecting geofence data pretty much from your GPS on your phone of 122 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:09,360 every single person in a small area was deemed unconstitutional under the Fourth 123 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Amendment. I'm hoping here soon, of course, that the Supreme Court would be 124 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:17,120 able to do something like that for these technologies that there can at least be 125 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:23,000 guardrails in place like requiring a warrant for obtaining data on these 126 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:28,240 plates. Because it's more of the mosaic issue where 127 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:31,600 you can sit on a public road and kind of write down whatever plates that you see 128 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,560 on the vehicle passes by, and that's just one person. It's in a public view 129 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:40,640 where it makes sense, but for a connected system to be all around the 130 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:45,280 entire country, it's not just in our little town. It shares that data with 131 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:49,600 this company that goes across the globe essentially. 132 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:53,920 By compiling all that information over hundreds of miles in different areas, 133 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:58,520 you could effectively find and track the movements of every single person that's 134 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:01,200 going on, and that data can be kept for a permanent, you know, a long amount of 135 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,880 time. So, 136 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:08,000 again, just airing concerns about this. You know, I've advocated before, at 137 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:12,520 least previously, that we can at least just get an audit at first to see what 138 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,120 is going on with these cameras so that that way they are being used responsibly 139 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,520 and that we are not having issues like other places have been having in the 140 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,120 country. Thank you, guys. >> Thank you, sir. 141 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:35,520 » Hello, my name is Nicholas Picorello. I live at 308 Waterford Drive. 142 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,400 My issues today come up with the flock cameras also 143 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:42,840 with a concern of safety for the community with data collection. 144 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,840 As person before me noted, 145 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:50,800 it's owned by people that are not even part of the United States. 146 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Owned by very rich powerful people, which can 147 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,920 uh of course be used on a federal level 148 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,880 eventually. Could be used for things in the future 149 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,040 we're not sure about. We need to understand this more before it's 150 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,320 introduced to our community. And also they're located in locations 151 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:12,080 which I think are very concerning, such as two are next to the hospital on 152 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:17,720 on Veteran Parkway, and then there's another one near the 153 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:22,280 what's it called? The Neuse River Trail on I believe it's Covered Bridge Road. 154 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Which can be concerning to me cuz you can even go on a walk with your family 155 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:29,880 with your family or with friends, have a good time, and 156 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:33,920 without having your data being collected, 157 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,240 license plate. And the entire idea, which I understand, is being proactive 158 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,839 about crime. But the entire problem I personally have 159 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,800 with this is we're giving up freedoms in exchange for safety, 160 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:50,080 which yes, of course safety's nice, but freedom is more beautiful than that. 161 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,040 There's been multiple cases in the past outside of 162 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Clayton, but I don't it could extend over here one day of police using it 163 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:04,440 to track exes, personal family members, and I 164 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:08,560 want these people to feel safe without a concern 165 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:13,880 that they'll have someone just watching over their daily life. 166 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:17,280 So, I just want I just want to uh I just want to bring attention to y'all 167 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:20,160 this matter that people do people do feel unsafe with this. But I appreciate 168 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,880 everything y'all do. I believe y'all are very nice people, but it's just my 169 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,000 personal opinion that I believe that there needs to be more looked into this. 170 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. 171 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,240 Anyone else wishing to speak this evening? 172 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Okay. 173 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,400 I will go ahead then and close public comments and move on to staff reports 174 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:53,840 starting with the town manager. >> No report this evening. 175 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:56,360 » Town attorney? Town clerk? 176 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,440 » No report. >> Other staff? 177 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Okay. Thank you all. Uh the next item on the agenda then is a 178 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:09,240 closed session and that is to discuss a legal matter and a real estate matter 179 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:14,680 and at this time I will ask for the room to be cleared. Thank you. 180 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Oh, my apologies. Motion. We need a motion to go into closed session for 181 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,600 both of those. I didn't have it in my notes originally 182 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,960 cuz I wasn't in the uh agenda. I will entertain a motion. 183 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,360 » I make a motion we go into closed session. 184 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,400 » We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? 185 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Hearing none, all in favor say I. Opposed like sign. Motion carries and 186 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,480 now we can clear the room. Thank you all. 187 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,840 » Mhm.