[5:12] as the mayor of the town of Clayton, I'd [5:13] like to call this Clayton Town Council [5:15] meeting to order. Uh, I'd like to ask [5:17] you to stand for the pledge of [5:18] allegiance, which tonight will be led by [5:20] the Scouting America Troop 58. So we [5:22] welcome you to the Clayton Town Council [5:24] meeting and remain standing forward the [5:27] invocation and also for an observance [5:30] for a moment of silence for the Wilson [5:32] Mills Mayor Fleeter Bird who passed away [5:34] on Sunday August the 16th [5:42] to the flag of the United States of [5:45] America and to the republic for which it [5:48] stands. One nation under God, [5:50] indivisible, with liberty and justice [5:53] for all. [6:12] Most gracious and heavenly father, we [6:14] pause to give you thanks for the many [6:15] blessings of this day. And we ask Lord [6:17] now that you be with us as we proceed [6:19] with the business for the town of [6:20] Clayton. For it's in Jesus name I pray. [6:22] Amen. [6:33] Are there any adjustments to the agenda? [6:35] >> No adjustments. [6:41] » All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain [6:42] a motion to adopt the agenda as [6:44] presented. Motion to adopt. Second. [6:47] >> We have a motion and second to adopt the [6:49] agenda as presented. Any further [6:51] discussion? All in favor say I. [6:54] >> I. [6:54] >> Opposed like sign. Motion carries. Up [6:58] next is your consent agenda. [7:02] >> Motion to adopt. [7:03] >> Second. [7:04] >> We have a motion and a second to adopt [7:06] the consent agenda. Is there any further [7:08] discussion? [7:10] All in favor say I. [7:11] >> I. [7:12] >> Oppose like signs. And motion carries. [7:16] Up next under administrative items is [7:18] the Clayton for you. [7:32] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor Council. Tonight [7:34] we have the pleasure to bring you [7:35] another episode of Clayton for You. [7:37] Tonight's episode is on annexations and [7:39] what that means for the town. [7:44] You may hear the word annexation during [7:46] a town council meeting, but what does it [7:48] actually mean for a property and the [7:50] people who live nearby? In this episode [7:52] [music] of Clayton for You, we're [7:54] breaking down what annexation is and [7:56] what changes when a property becomes [7:58] part of [music] the town of Clayton. [8:00] >> Annexation is a process of bringing [8:01] existing property that is outside [8:03] Clayton's town limits into the [music] [8:04] town limits. In most cases, it starts [8:06] with the property owner petitioning the [8:08] town to annex their property. Annex [8:10] properties benefit from access to town [8:11] [music] services and infrastructure, [8:13] including opportunities for electric, [8:15] water, and sewer service. They also are [8:18] subject to [music] town property taxes [8:19] and all town ordinances and regulations. [8:22] There are two types of annexations, [8:24] contiguous and non-ontiguous. A [8:26] contiguous annexation involves [8:27] properties that directly touches [8:29] Clayton's existing town limits, while a [8:31] non-ontiguous annexation involves [8:33] property that is separate from the main [8:35] or primary [music] town limits. That [8:37] distinction is especially important with [8:38] non-ontiguous annexations [music] [8:40] because bringing one property into [8:41] Clayton does not change the services or [8:43] jurisdiction for the properties around [8:45] it. [music] For example, an address that [8:47] falls within the jurisdiction of the [8:49] Johnson County Sheriff's Office would [8:51] remain [music] in that jurisdiction even [8:53] if a neighboring property is annexed. [8:55] >> That's a quick look at how annexation [8:57] works in the [music] town of Clay. You [8:59] can follow annexation requests and other [9:01] town business [music] by attending town [9:03] council meetings or watching live on [9:05] YouTube. [9:08] Thank you, sir. Perfect. Thank you. [9:17] Up next, under introduction and special [9:19] presentations will be a retirement [9:21] recognition for Mr. Robert Mai. So, good [9:24] evening. [9:26] Tonight [9:27] we have the opportunity to recognize a [9:29] very special member of the Clayton Town [9:31] [clears throat] of Clayton [9:33] family as he's preparing to retire and [9:37] uh following an extraordinary career of [9:39] professional leadership and public [9:40] service. He's built a career defined by [9:43] integrity and commitment to doing things [9:45] the right way. Clayton has been [9:47] fortunate to benefit from that [9:49] experience as he has helped guide our [9:52] town through a period of tremendous [9:54] evolution and change. Much of his work [9:57] has happened behind the scenes, but its [10:00] impact can be seen throughout our [10:01] organization and across our community. [10:04] Tonight, we'd like to take a few minutes [10:06] to reflect on that remarkable career and [10:09] celebrate a lifetime of service to the [10:11] people of North Carolina. At this time, [10:14] I'd like to invite town manager Rich [10:15] Capola to share a few remarks. [10:18] >> Robert, if I could ask you to go stand [10:20] at the podium there, sir. I know you [10:23] love this kind of stuff. [10:27] » So, thank you, Mayor. Um, it's been a [10:29] privilege working alongside Robert here [10:31] the last several years. Uh, I've been [10:32] able to witness firsthand Robert's [10:34] knowledge, professionalism, dedication, [10:37] uh, and and just overall zest for for [10:40] the world of finances here at the town [10:41] of Clayton. Uh since 2009, Robert has [10:44] served as our finance director, [10:46] overseeing every ma every major aspect [10:48] of the time town's financial as uh [10:50] operations. That includes budgeting, [10:52] accounting, investments, debt [10:54] management, purchasing, financial [10:56] reporting, and compliance. Uh to fully [10:59] appreciate Robert's contributions, I [11:01] think everybody here needs to really [11:03] think about what it looked like 17 years [11:04] ago when Robert started. Uh since then, [11:07] our population has more than doubled. Uh [11:09] we've seen extremely uh large uh service [11:14] demands put on our all the different [11:15] services across the board. Uh we've had [11:18] expanded infrastructure demands [11:19] including a small $280 million what [11:22] Robert has routinely referred to [11:24] generational project with our Sam's [11:25] branch water reclamation facility which [11:27] he was instrumental in getting uh off [11:29] the ground. Uh and we've made [11:31] significant investments to be able to [11:32] prepare for the future here in the town [11:33] of Clayton. Uh through that growth, [11:36] Robert has provided the steady financial [11:37] leadership that helped keep Clayton [11:40] fiscally strong, transparent, and [11:43] prepared for the opportunities and [11:44] challenges that came with being one of [11:46] the fastest growing communities in our [11:48] region. [11:49] Under his leadership, the town has [11:51] repeatedly earned national recognition [11:53] from the Government Finance Officers [11:55] Association for Excellence in Financial [11:57] Reporting and Budgeting, something I [11:58] know Robert is very proud of and this [12:00] organization as a whole is. Those awards [12:03] are certainly something to celebrate, [12:04] but they also reflect the standards that [12:06] Robert has consistently brought to the [12:08] finances here at the town of Clayton. [12:10] Uh, responsible stewardship of the [12:11] public funds is is of the utmost [12:13] importance to us, and that commitment to [12:15] transparency and accountability shows in the work that Robert has provided [12:20] over the years. Robert has become a very [12:21] trusted resource to our employees, our [12:23] department directors, our elected [12:24] officials, finance professionals, and [12:26] public administrators alike. uh he's [12:29] always been willing to share his [12:30] knowledge, explain these complex issues [12:32] and putting some investment back into [12:34] the people that he works with uh to help [12:36] us understand some very very complex [12:38] math sometimes. [12:40] Uh we will certainly remember all the [12:42] balanced budgets and the clean audits, [12:44] the award-winning financial reports, the [12:46] strong financial systems, and the many [12:47] projects, investments he made possible. [12:49] Uh but just as importantly, we want to [12:51] remember the guidance, the wisdom, the [12:53] experience that he's shared with us all [12:54] along the way. Um, Robert, for me [12:58] personally and from the organization, I [12:59] want to thank you for all of your your [13:01] commitment to this town, uh, seeing us [13:04] through some of the most challenging [13:06] times, but also having some of the most [13:08] rewarding impact on the organization as [13:10] a whole. Uh, so on behalf of town of [13:12] Clayton, I would like to thank you for [13:14] all you've done and for the people you [13:16] served throughout your career. Thank [13:17] you. [13:18] >> Awesome. Thank you, Rich. So, Robert, [13:22] tonight we've heard about an [13:23] extraordinary career spanning more than [13:25] four decades and the impact that you've [13:27] had here in Clayton and throughout North [13:29] Carolina. But we're here not only [13:31] tonight to recognize your retirement, [13:33] but we're here to recognize a lifetime [13:36] of service. For decades, you've [13:38] dedicated your talents and experience to [13:41] public service in North Carolina. And [13:43] throughout that time, you have been [13:45] entrusted with an enormous [13:47] responsibility. Making sure that public [13:49] resources are managed wisely and that [13:52] government operates responsibly and [13:54] transparently on behalf of the people it [13:57] serves. Clayton has been has Clayton has [14:01] benefited tremendously from that [14:02] commitment. Your guidance has helped our [14:05] community make important investments in [14:07] its future and build a strong financial [14:09] foundation for the years ahead. [14:12] And tonight, that lifetime of service is [14:15] being recognized by the state of North [14:16] Carolina. [14:18] The Order of the Longleaf Pine is [14:20] awarded by the Governor of North [14:22] Carolina, and it's widely regarded as [14:24] one of the highest state honors for [14:26] exemplary service and exceptional [14:28] contributions to North Carolina and its [14:30] communities. [14:31] Robert, it is my honor, a great honor, [14:35] to announce that Governor Josh Stein has [14:37] bestowed upon you the Order of the [14:39] Longleaf Pond. [14:59] » [applause] [15:00] >> Thank you. [15:04] So on behalf of the governor of the [15:05] state of North Carolina, the town [15:07] council, and the town citizens of [15:09] Clayton, North Carolina, [15:10] congratulations. It's my privilege to [15:12] present to you the order of the long [15:14] leaf pine. [15:33] And we also want to excuse me uh say a [15:37] special thank you to Robert and his [15:38] family uh for all that you have allowed [15:41] him to do and been so supportive of his [15:43] actions. What a true difference uh that [15:46] he has completely made with time. So on [15:49] behalf of time we thank all of your [15:52] family and your friends. All right. And [15:54] at this time because I know you can't [15:56] wait to get in front of that microphone [15:57] and say I'm going to give the floor to [16:00] you. All right. [laughter] All right. [16:01] Thank you. [16:05] All right. Um Mr. Mayor, Council Rich, [16:09] uh it's been a true honor, [16:12] been a great ride. Came here in February [16:14] 2009. I remember one of the first things [16:16] we did out of the gate was we had our [16:18] first GL bond offering. Mr. Mayor, you [16:20] probably remember we went up on that [16:21] trip to New York and met with Moody's [16:23] and S&P. Uh that was quite a quite an [16:26] experience. And uh you know since then [16:29] things just taken off. Um I've really [16:32] loved everything I do as a finance [16:34] director. I've taken that role very [16:36] seriously. Um felt like I've always been [16:38] a good steward of the town's finances [16:41] and it its assets. Um, probably one of [16:45] the biggest things I'm most proud of is [16:47] probably the collaborative effort we did [16:49] to get the Sams branch project off the [16:51] ground and see that to fruition. That [16:53] was uh quite a challenge. That was one [16:57] of those I call I always refer to the [16:59] generational construction project. [17:01] Little bit south of $300 million. That [17:03] was that was a big one. Um, but again, [17:06] I'm very appreciative of all the support [17:09] I've received over the years. Uh my [17:11] staff, these are a great group of [17:13] people, very knowledgeable, dedicated, [17:16] professional. Um without them, you know, [17:20] I wouldn't have got been able to do some [17:22] of the things I've been able to do. Um [17:25] so I'm very appreciative. This this is [17:27] like uh icing on the cake, so to speak. [17:31] Uh didn't expect that. Um but I'm I'm [17:35] very appreciative and uh it's been a [17:37] hell of a ride. Um, and uh, you know, [17:41] it's bittersweet. I'm going to miss [17:43] everybody. Uh, but it is time to move on [17:46] to the next uh, chapter, so to speak, [17:49] which is retirement. [laughter] [17:52] So, again, I appreciate everybody's uh, [17:54] recognition and it it's it's very [17:56] heartfelt. Thank you so much. [18:01] >> Thank you, Robert. We uh, we appreciate [18:03] that. Uh, I want to take a point of per [18:06] personal privilege right now to let you [18:08] know just how much your service to the [18:11] town of Clayton and to me as a mayor has [18:13] been. You know, when uh back in the late uh '9s, that would be 1996, [18:21] the uh town of Clayton was not in very [18:23] good financial standing. And as a [18:27] council member at that time, we were [18:28] called into the local government [18:30] commission by the state of North [18:31] Carolina. And it was not a pretty [18:33] picture. Uh but some good things [18:36] happened from that. And one good thing [18:38] that happened from that was a lady who [18:39] worked for local government commission. [18:40] Her name was Nancy Medlin. And when she [18:42] was asked would she consider coming to [18:44] Clayton and being our finance director [18:46] and help us get Clayton back on the [18:48] right track, she agreed. And from that [18:51] point on, that's when she later uh found [18:55] Robert Mai. And when Nancy retired, we [18:57] had Robert. So, I continued to breathe [19:00] easily and did not have heart [19:01] palpitations, right? Because I knew we [19:03] were going to be in good hands. And I'm [19:05] sure that we're going to be in good [19:06] hands moving forward. But I just want [19:08] you to know how much it means to me and [19:11] really to all the Clayton's and [19:12] especially in today's environment to to [19:15] model the way on how finances should be [19:18] conducted in a municipality. And I thank [19:20] you for that. [19:23] [applause] [19:28] Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank [19:30] you. [19:46] All right. So, up next on the agenda [19:48] will be a public hearing. It's the town [19:50] pub conventional reszoning 2026-081-RZ. [19:56] This is continued from the July 20th [19:58] meeting [20:00] and the public hearing does remain open. [20:31] Good evening, [clears throat] mayor, [20:32] members of council. Conrad, planning [20:34] director for the town of Clayton. Um, [20:36] before you is a a request for three [20:40] properties to be reszoned to public [20:42] facilities, PUB. Um the couple slides [20:46] are from your prior presentation that [20:47] were delivered by Lori Bryant, our [20:49] planner one. Um and I've added some [20:51] additional slides to the presentation. [20:53] I'll spend a little more time on. So [20:54] I'll just kind of do a recap for benefit [20:56] of um just a refresher. So there are [20:59] three parcels that were recently [21:01] processed for annexation. um they are [21:04] townowned and in interest of [21:07] consolidating the town owned properties [21:08] into the PUB zoning district um this is [21:11] a reasonzoning request to fulfill that desire. Um so there are three uh [21:17] these three are totaling um 143 acres. [21:21] They're located off of Short Johnson. [21:24] Let me see. [21:26] This one is off of um Veterans Parkway [21:28] and Shore Johnson Road. And this [21:29] property to the north is the upcoming [21:32] public safety center for PD and for fire [21:35] department. [21:37] Parcel one and parcel two are currently [21:39] undeveloped as you can see with the [21:41] aerial off of Jack Road. This is a [21:43] terminus of Corbett Road and this is the [21:45] extent of the Clayton planning area. [21:48] This area right here is was annexed. Um [21:50] it was in the county's jurisdiction but [21:53] with annexation we now are going to be [21:56] required to reszone it. So hence the two [21:58] PUB um requests for this facility. This [22:03] property was reszoned to PUB um a couple [22:05] months ago. So this is in alignment with [22:07] that request. Also [22:13] the properties were noticed [22:15] um for the planning meeting, the [22:17] planning board meeting. So we have the [22:18] same public noticing um policy for the [22:21] planning board that we use for town [22:23] council. So, we uh sent property owner [22:25] letters to 300t radiuses for both both [22:28] these properties [22:29] and we have the our our signs are posted [22:34] on the property. So, this is along I [22:36] want to say this looks like um Jack [22:38] Road, [22:39] some of the terminuses of Corbett and [22:42] Essex Lane and also Short Johnson right [22:44] here. Sorry if my flashlight is [22:48] distracting there, but I like to use it. [22:51] Um so moving on [22:56] here are the three the the two [22:58] properties on Jack Road and Corbett [23:00] Road. You can see their existing and [23:03] their proposed PUB [23:06] and then parcel 3 existing and proposed [23:16] with respect to the future land use map. [23:18] Um parcel one and parcel two are looking [23:22] to um a revision from prior dis [23:26] discussion was we wanted to update these [23:28] to be feature land use map designation [23:30] of agricultural slash [23:33] I'm sorry be recreation and open space. [23:37] So that would be this feature land use [23:39] map designation [23:40] for these two properties. [23:44] Um therefore that's why you would find a [23:46] motion for inconsistency um for these [23:48] two properties. Um by you all adopting a [23:51] motion of inconsistency allows us to [23:53] change the future land use map to be [23:54] recreation and open space. [23:58] There's no need to change the future [24:00] land use map for this proposed resoning. [24:03] So it would be staying the same um [24:05] consistent with the property adjacent to [24:07] the north that was also zone PUB. So [24:10] this would be medium density residential [24:11] with neighborhood center. [24:17] Now for the update since council's [24:19] meeting on the July the 20th. [24:23] So with respect to the neighborhood [24:25] meeting um the UDO is looking we're [24:27] looking to update the language in the [24:29] current UDO to indicate some [24:31] clarification when and when and if and [24:34] how the town would initiate a [24:35] neighborhood meeting. So at the time of [24:39] the this project coming forth for [24:41] consideration, staff's direction was to [24:44] not conduct a neighborhood meeting. Um [24:46] resulting from the public hearing of the [24:48] planning board process. Um staff decided [24:50] to hold at council's direction the [24:52] neighborhood meeting and that meeting [24:54] was held on August 10th. So shortly [24:57] following the direction from council, [24:59] staff went ahead and moved forward with [25:01] um the notifications that were sent. We [25:04] expanded that geography to include [25:06] several of the property owners outside [25:08] of the normal 300t radius. So we've sent [25:11] notices of the neighborhood meeting to [25:12] about 331 property owners. That would [25:15] include both those in um Short Johnson [25:18] Oh, I'm sorry. This would be the folks [25:20] off of Corbett Road and and Jack and [25:22] Jack Road. [25:24] So, the meeting was held here in the [25:26] council chambers on August 10th at 6 [25:28] p.m. Um, we had about 22 signed in [25:33] attendees, a good number of [25:34] participants. Um, we were able to obtain [25:38] um [25:40] the park study that was provided um [25:43] earlier to council that highlighted some [25:45] of the concepts that were intended or [25:48] conceptualized for Jack Road and Corbett [25:51] Road property as well as um poster board [25:54] showing the comprehensive transportation [25:55] plan um which shows an extension of [25:58] Corbett Road connecting to Jack Road and [26:00] also the terminus court road at some [26:02] point to connect to government code. [26:06] So these materials were provided um for [26:08] the public to observe. It generated some [26:09] good conversation with staff. We also [26:12] printed out some materials including the [26:14] entire list of the table 4.25 of the UDO [26:17] which shows all the list all the [26:19] principal uses that would be allowed in [26:21] the PUB zoning district. [26:24] Some good questions were raised. Um [26:26] would Corbett Road be extended? Um, [26:29] could the CTP be modified, amended to [26:32] reflect any changes to the existing [26:34] road? Um, is there an opportunity for [26:36] public input um for later development? [26:40] Um, more pointedly, would is this going [26:42] to be a wastewater treatment plant? [26:45] And what uses would be allowed on the [26:47] properties? kind of speaking of the town [26:49] was to uh suddenly put up um a use that [26:53] was not intended to I don't know to [26:55] [clears throat] to occur on that on that [26:57] project or sell the property to a [26:59] private developer for a more intense [27:01] development. Um [27:05] more than happy to answer some of these [27:07] questions um in the staff report and the [27:09] presentation. And um Corbett Road is [27:12] conceptualized to be a CTP. The [27:14] alignment of that road and how it plays [27:16] out future plans for the town. Um [27:20] I have some of the excerpts and maybe we [27:22] can talk about that in my next slides. [27:28] So um some of the answers were for [27:30] parcel 3. Um this was the property up by [27:35] um by Shore Johnson Road and Veterans [27:37] Parkway. It was communicated this [27:38] property would serve as an extension of [27:41] the upcoming public safety center for [27:43] the Clayton Fire and PD. Um really the [27:46] site plan there shows us having a [27:48] driveway connecting the property to [27:50] Short Johnson. So the obtaining of this [27:52] property allows that connectivity to [27:54] both Veterans Parkway and Short Johnson [27:56] Road. [27:58] Not a lot of discussion at the [27:59] neighborhood meeting about this pro of [28:01] this parcel. More discussion did occur [28:04] with parcels one and two. So the staff [28:07] communicated the adopted CTP and park [28:10] review study. And I could add that when [28:13] the CTP was adopted, it was a standard [28:15] of protocol to assume that when those [28:17] private developers were to come or [28:19] obtain property, then we would acquire [28:21] right away for the roads that are [28:22] designated on the CTP, which is the comp [28:25] transportation plan. Um, in this case, [28:28] it's likely that we didn't anticipate [28:30] the properties on Jack Road and Coral [28:32] Road to be obtained by the town. So, if [28:34] this was a private development that was [28:36] seeking to annex and obtain services [28:39] from the town, then we would definitely [28:41] be requiring this road, this right away [28:43] to be placed to connect um to Jack Road. [28:48] Given that the town has that um [28:52] approved in the CTP and we own the [28:55] property, there is possibility that we don't have any commitments to [29:00] that extension of the road. It's a [29:02] possibility to amend the CTP, but that's [29:05] not um subject at discussion right now. [29:08] That's just something for uh for us to [29:10] consider it later on down the road [29:11] should we want to do that. Um that would [29:13] require town council separate action to [29:15] amend the CTP. Um there is no express we [29:19] expressed that there are no projects [29:20] known to date. So uncommitted with [29:23] respect to extending Corbett Road other [29:25] than what's designated on the CTP, but [29:27] also not committing to any um awareness [29:30] of current projects outside of what was [29:32] provided with the park study. Um and [29:36] also communicated that the existing [29:38] plans are conceptual only. They're not committed to really this is [29:42] a standard process that we experience [29:44] with private development where there's a [29:46] sought to do a conventional resoning [29:48] from one district to the other. we're in the same um boat there. [29:53] What was communicated was there would be [29:55] a public process for future development [29:58] of the property into a park um as well [30:01] as any capital improvements that would [30:03] occur on the properties um for [30:05] allocation of funding would require a [30:07] council's review and approval submitt [30:09] through our own review process of [30:12] prioritizations of capital improvement [30:14] projects. So administration would be [30:15] involved in that process but it would be [30:17] a public process um that would come [30:19] before to the public to know what was [30:22] going to be occurring on those [30:23] properties at a future date. [30:28] [snorts] [30:29] The the current transportation plan that [30:31] was approved by council or adopted by [30:33] council just last year does show that [30:36] extension of corporate road and jack [30:38] road. project key number 36. And there's [30:41] also an extension of Corporate Road to [30:42] Government Road, project key number 37. [30:45] [clears throat] [30:47] And the road improvements and extensions [30:49] are yet to be determined. Just as if we [30:51] had a private developer that was looking [30:53] to reszone this property, we would [30:55] inform them about these future plans on [30:57] the property as well. [30:59] Um, this is a [31:02] look at the the busy CTP that we have, [31:05] but there's a highlight that shows [31:08] number 37 and 36 that I just um [31:11] discussed, [31:14] and I'll go ahead and point those out. [31:15] So, this is the southern part of the [31:17] town, [31:19] and here's a blow up of the those two [31:21] extensions that are shown on the [31:23] comprehensive transportation plan. [31:26] And this would provide connectivity um [31:28] going all the way up to Amelia Church [31:34] which would be shown um if I can show [31:35] that right here. I don't like right [31:37] there. So connecting [31:40] oops connecting down here. I should [31:42] probably have too much fun with this. [31:44] [laughter] [31:46] Okay. Um so some some great um other [31:49] discussion was with regards to the parks [31:51] review study that was provided in 2020 [31:54] on July 2026. Um there was a work [31:58] session where the park study was [31:59] provided to the council and there's some [32:02] conceptual park and recreation [32:03] programming and the park study [32:05] identifies identifies nature trails [32:07] greenways and trails open space [32:10] playground nature play native plant [32:12] gardens community gardens like [32:14] pollinator gardens and meadows mountain [32:16] biking and pump tracks maintenance area [32:19] storage dog park disc golf shelter and [32:22] picnic areas parking shelter and [32:24] restrooms. Um, but these improvements to [32:26] the property have are yet to be [32:28] determined. They're really conceptual. [32:30] So, here's [snorts] a concept of that [32:32] design that is in the park study. That's [32:36] um as a concept. So, this helps us [32:39] visualize what might occur. In talking [32:42] with our engineering department, um, if [32:44] we were to align Corbett Road to Jack [32:47] Road and we were to maintain this, uh, [32:49] park concept, the idea would probably be [32:51] to push it to one side of the property [32:54] versus going directly down the middle. [32:56] Um, but yet to be determined right now. [32:58] The timing of the road to be placed is [33:01] also subject to discussion. So if it's a [33:04] park or if it if the town commits to [33:06] having it a park when that project when [33:09] the road gets built or not um is up to [33:12] future future discussion. [33:15] What we do know is that the CTP shows [33:17] corporate road and we do know that the [33:18] park study has this um and again [33:21] non-committal but just as a concept [33:23] there were other properties identified [33:25] throughout town and this happened to be [33:26] one of those that was ident that was um [33:29] related to this project. [33:35] » [snorts] [33:36] >> So um a matter of zoning um uses in the [33:39] UDO42 [33:41] uh table 4.25 [33:43] lists several uses or principal uses and [33:46] are designated in this table with a P. [33:48] That means a use permitted by right. [33:52] When a use is permitted by right, that [33:54] use does not require further town [33:56] council action. So that's something that [33:58] a project can move forward with um [34:00] administrative reviews. So if this was a [34:03] private developer, they would reszone [34:04] the property and come back to council or [34:07] they wouldn't have to come back to [34:08] council. But in this case, for the [34:09] allocation of spending of money, it [34:12] would be going back to council since [34:14] we're a public entity. Um, in any case, [34:16] the you the permitted use table also has [34:20] use has standards for specific principal [34:22] uses and it's important to know that [34:25] these standards cannot be modified [34:26] through a conditional reasoning. [34:29] [snorts] So, in the example of a [34:31] wastewater treatment plant, which was [34:33] brought up at the neighborhood meeting, [34:36] um went ahead and did a quick analysis [34:38] that shows [34:40] that type of use falls within a major [34:43] utility per the definitions of the UDO. [34:47] And you can see that the UDO table has a [34:49] row that shows all the principal uses [34:51] and the columns are the zoning [34:53] districts. And if there's a blank space [34:56] in there, it's not permitted. If there's [34:58] an S, it would be a special use permit. [34:59] If it was a C, it would be a conditional [35:01] reszoning. If it's a P, then it's a [35:03] permitted use. And so when you look at [35:05] the major utility, it would be a [35:07] permitted use in the light industrial [35:10] districts, the heavy industrial [35:12] district, and also in the public [35:14] facilities district. So on the furthest [35:17] right there is a UDO standards 4.3.134. [35:22] And that gives us the use specific [35:25] standards for a major utility. So this [35:29] definition just kind of tells you where [35:31] the waste treatment plant would fall in [35:33] a utility major and then the use [35:35] specific standards that would be [35:37] applicable to that use and the town [35:39] would be abiding by these standards [35:40] should this occur. [35:44] So right there you can see um letter A, [35:46] it talks about the distance from a [35:48] residentially zoned lot would be 300 [35:50] foot. [35:58] Going back to the history of where we're [35:59] here and that concludes the neighborhood [36:01] meeting component of the pro of my [36:03] presentation. Um planning board [36:05] unanimously recommended approval of [36:07] these motions. There are two separate [36:09] motions for the two different um kinds [36:11] of consistency for the projects [36:14] with parcels one and two um having the [36:16] feature land use map update to be [36:18] recreation and open space. [36:21] And in your consistency statement [36:22] sheets, these are getting designated [36:24] with the color red and blue so you can [36:26] understand which one um to apply for or [36:29] to make the motion for. [sighs] [36:33] And again, it's a it's a conventional [36:35] reasonzoning plans show concepts. Timing [36:39] of those implementation of those plans [36:41] is unknown. There is a participatory [36:43] process for those pro for those [36:46] properties to be built with pound funds. [36:48] And I'm available for any questions [36:50] council may have. [36:52] >> All right. Thank you, Conrad. Any [36:53] questions or comments? [36:57] >> All right. Thank you, sir. This is still [36:59] noted as a public hearing and the public [37:01] hearing is still open. If anyone wishes [37:03] to speak on this matter, please step [37:05] forward and state your name. [37:10] >> Good evening. [37:11] >> Uh Jason Meadows, 1285 Corbett Road. So [37:14] immediately abuing uh parcel one. Um [37:19] yeah, I just have I have trouble kind of [37:21] getting along with this um unknown. I [37:24] think we're at a private developer up [37:26] here pursuing a conventional reszoning. [37:29] Um that's generally looked at in a [37:31] negative light. Um just saying we don't [37:34] know what it's going to be. Not [37:35] consistent with the future land use map. [37:38] Can't commit to whether there's going to [37:39] be a road there. Not going to commit to [37:41] a park or any use restrictions. [37:44] Um this seems incredibly premature. [37:47] Without a plan, why reszone? Um, if you [37:51] have to reszone, then let's put some [37:53] conditions on this and make it [37:55] palatable. Uh, it just it it doesn't sit [37:58] well to [38:00] throw, you know, a park would be great, [38:04] but a park is not even a handshake [38:06] agreement. A park is just a talking [38:08] point. Um, there's a whole host of other [38:10] uses that are allowable. One that we, [38:14] you know, probably hit on the worst, [38:16] which would be a wastewater treatment [38:17] plant. We understand you probably won't [38:18] do that. Maybe we don't need that. Um, [38:22] but on the same token, if we don't need [38:25] that, then why not strike it off the [38:27] list? So, if this needs more time for [38:30] the town to come up with what they [38:32] really want to do here, we're willing to [38:34] wait. Most of us have uh have lived [38:37] there for quite a while. I'll probably [38:39] be one of the newest residents next to [38:40] this uh property, but um it just feels [38:44] premature and unnecessary at this point [38:46] until you guys have a little bit better [38:47] sense of what you'd like to do. Uh but [38:50] you know, eventually I understand, you [38:52] know, the comprehensive plan would need [38:53] to be revised. If there is a park here, [38:55] it makes sense to take the road off. [38:58] But, uh in general, you know, we [39:00] appreciate the neighborhood meeting. I [39:01] hate that we had to get it the way we [39:03] got it, but um it is what it is. Uh that [39:06] was all positive and and good [39:08] conversation, but I just think there's [39:09] too many unknowns to to continue to push [39:12] forward um with really no no need for [39:16] the rush that we see from our end. So we [39:19] just appreciate your consideration to [39:21] either further refine this or put some [39:23] use restrictions on it or allow us to [39:25] just continue to uh let this evolve over [39:27] time. Thank you. [39:29] >> Thank you. [39:32] >> Anyone else? [39:37] All right. No one else wishing to speak. [39:38] I'll close the public hearing and turn [39:40] it over to council for their discussion. [39:48] » Mr. Casey. So my understanding is we're [39:51] reszoning this obviously because town of [39:53] Clayton land and so we wanted to just be [39:55] public like we've done all the other [39:57] parcels. [39:58] um you know, [40:01] you would not recommend or ever want to [40:03] have to go through a whole another [40:04] wastewater treatment facility and know [40:06] we don't need to do one. Um so with that [40:09] being said, I mean even if we [40:10] conditionalized it and said it's not [40:12] going to be used for a wastewater [40:13] treatment facility. I know one council [40:15] can't find another. Would that just mean [40:18] we would just have to if you [40:19] hypothetically again it's there's no way [40:22] in probably my lifetime it'll it'll ever [40:24] be anything like that. Hopefully, it's a [40:26] park and I think that's obviously that's [40:27] the intent. But I mean, if we did [40:30] conditionalize that, would it just [40:32] require another council to take that [40:34] condition off the table? I don't know. [40:35] That's a question for Jim or or what. [40:39] >> I I can comment on that, Councilman [40:41] Casey. [40:42] >> Thank you. Sorry. [40:43] >> So, the if we were to reinitiate this as [40:45] a conditional resoning, we would need to [40:48] go through the process again. We can't [40:50] swap conventional to conditional during [40:52] the process. to answer your question. [40:58] » Yeah, that I think [clears throat] your [41:00] question is it is it permanent once it's once [41:05] it's conditioned and um it another [41:08] council could change it? Absolutely. [41:13] It'd be another it'd be an amendment [41:14] process or a re or reasonzoning process. [41:19] >> Okay. So with that being said, I mean I respect the comment, but I guess even [41:24] if we conditionalize it is not going to [41:25] be a wastewater treatment facility. I I [41:27] don't I mean it's not I think it's [41:30] beside the fact because it would [41:32] potentially, you know, who knows what 20 [41:35] years ago now what their council has in [41:38] mind, but I mean they could just [41:40] conceivably just change it, you know, [41:42] just undo what we've done. Um, and [41:45] obviously we've already told you a [41:47] thousand times there's no intent for it [41:48] to be anything like a wastewater [41:50] treatment facility or anything like [41:52] that. So I hope that makes you feel a [41:54] little bit better, but [41:56] I'm sorry, but um I'll give you my [41:59] address if it ever comes to be a [42:00] wastewater treatment while I'm up here. [42:01] You can come uh uh talk to me. But [42:04] anyway, uh I'm have no other questions. [42:08] >> Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Uh I was [42:10] just going to say um so before anything [42:12] does get built there, there will be [42:14] another [42:16] decision on our part and another chance [42:18] to contribute before anything happens. [42:20] So even if somewhere when we're going to [42:23] propose building a wastewater treatment [42:24] plant there, which hopefully not, um [42:28] then you know we will still have some [42:31] discretion or whoever is on the council [42:32] at that point will be able to um hear [42:36] from the people and make sure that [42:37] they're not doing something that is ill [42:38] advised. [42:39] >> Absolutely. And I think that really the [42:41] intent will always be to have public [42:43] input on what's going to take place on [42:45] that acreage when it comes to developing [42:47] it as a park property. Right. [42:50] But it is true in the state of North [42:52] Carolina, one council is not legally [42:54] bound by another. So that's general [42:58] statute for North Carolina. It doesn't [43:00] have anything to do with what we're what [43:02] we can do. It just dictates what we can [43:04] do. [43:06] Mr. Casey. [43:07] >> Yeah. One other comment, too, and I and [43:08] I appreciate, you know, obviously you [43:10] dove dove into it and they're very [43:12] concerned. I'll say I've been up here [43:13] long enough now and I'm not a veteran by [43:16] no means, but I I've seen it enough that [43:17] like, you know, that's a a valuable [43:21] piece of land and, you know, any [43:23] developer would be foaming at the mouth [43:24] to get their hands on it to develop it. [43:26] And um, you know, I I think you you [43:29] know, for the people that live in that [43:30] area, um, you know, it's I think [43:33] hopefully you're you know, it's exciting [43:35] that here it's going to be a park or [43:37] something like that, not you know, [43:39] potentially another development. Um, so [43:41] anyway, just want to throw that two [43:42] cents in cuz a lot of people that come [43:44] here and they they they they're upset or [43:47] they, you know, they have feedback, they [43:50] they'd love for the town, they always [43:51] say, "Well, I wish the town would buy [43:53] it." And in this situation, we actually [43:55] did buy that land. And, you know, as [43:57] we've been discussing, you know, what [43:59] our intentions are for it. It's not [44:00] anything that um unfortunately some [44:03] other people you know you know get [44:05] frustrated about or disgruntled about um [44:08] in some of the areas other areas of of the area. But anyway, thank you. Now [44:12] I'll completely be quiet. [44:16] >> Anyone else? Miss Archer. [44:18] >> Uh yes, thank you for everyone who [44:20] attended the neighborhood meeting. I saw [44:22] there was 20ome folks there and [44:24] appreciate uh the town notifying the 300 [44:27] or however many folks to let everybody [44:29] know that this was happening. So um and I thought from the neighborhood [44:33] meeting minutes that people asked very [44:35] good questions and uh as far as the [44:38] commenter this evening and I also [44:39] received your email. I understand the [44:42] desire for certainty. Personally, I [44:44] would love additional certainty as well. [44:45] I like the current proposal that to have [44:48] a connector road in there as well as a [44:50] park and that would be my hope that that [44:52] would come to fruition. Um, in terms of [44:54] certainty, you had mentioned you about [44:56] parcel one which I believe could have [44:58] been developed to residential large lot [45:00] standards which you would have had, you [45:03] know, minimal input on how that would [45:05] have unfolded as well. I I do think [45:07] having this be a town-owned parcel will [45:09] give the neighbors a better result [45:11] potentially, I hope, uh, compared to [45:14] residential development that could have [45:15] occurred there. But on in that term, in [45:18] terms of all that, I agree with the [45:19] comments that have already been made [45:20] that I do think that there will be [45:22] future opportunities for public input as [45:24] these plans come to fruition. So, thank [45:26] you and and thank you for participating. [45:31] » Anyone else? [45:36] All right. [45:39] Hearing no other um comments, I'll [45:41] entertain a motion. [45:45] » Mr. Mayor, I can go ahead and make a [45:47] motion. [45:49] >> Yes, sir. [45:53] And this motion would be for adoption of [45:56] ordinance 2026-07-03 [46:02] with motion one and two and and the [46:05] consistency statement. And would I read [46:08] both of those motions into the record? [46:11] Okay. [46:18] Uh I see. So, we're recommending two [46:20] separate motions. Okay, I'm getting [46:22] there. I'm getting there. So, [laughter] [46:25] uh here is motion number one. And I make [46:27] a motion to approve the town PUB [46:30] conventional reszoning ordinance [46:32] 2026-07-03 [46:34] for parcel 3 identified as [46:36] NCIN16581-15-2514 [46:41] based on the consistency with the future [46:43] land use map goals, policies, andor [46:45] strategies in the adopted 2045 [46:47] comprehensive growth plan in that it is [46:50] consistent with the future land use map [46:52] designates the property as medium [46:54] density residential with a neighborhood [46:56] center overlay. LA goal LU1 which aims [46:59] to preserve Clayton's character while [47:00] allowing for growth and development in [47:02] appropriate areas. Goal SI7 which seeks [47:06] to ensure the capacity of emergency [47:07] services as the population increases. [47:10] This action is reasonable and in the [47:12] public interest in that the [47:13] comprehensive growth plan strives to [47:15] ensure sufficient capacity of civic and [47:17] emergency related services as the [47:19] population grows. the requested resoning [47:22] permits uses that allow for expansion [47:24] and continuation of civic and emergency [47:26] related services. [47:30] » Second. [47:31] >> We have a motion and a second for [47:33] approval. Is there any further [47:35] discussion? [47:36] >> All in favor say I. [47:38] >> I. [47:38] >> Oppose like sign. Motion carries. [47:44] » Mr. Mayor, I would like to go ahead and [47:45] make motion number two. [47:47] >> Yes, sir. which would be approval [47:49] inconsistent with the 2045 comprehensive [47:52] growth plan. I make a motion to approve [47:54] the town QB conventional reasonzoning [47:57] ordinance 2026-07-03 [48:01] identified as parcels 1 and two of the [48:03] request and NC pins [48:06] 164700-85-1743 [48:10] and 164700-94-1412 [48:14] respectively. [48:16] While the proposed resoning is generally [48:18] consistent with the adopted 2045 [48:20] comprehensive growth plan in that it is [48:22] consistent with goal LU1 which aims to [48:25] preserve Clayton's character while [48:27] allowing for growth and development in [48:28] appropriate areas. Goal PR1 which [48:31] supports the development of Clayton as a [48:33] regional destination for recreation and [48:35] trailbased tourism. It is inconsistent [48:38] in that the property identified as [48:39] parcel one is designated as agricultural [48:42] and rural rural residential in the [48:44] future land use map which primarily [48:46] envisions residential development on the [48:48] subject property. The property [48:51] identified as parcel 2 in the undesated [48:54] is undesated in the future land use map. [48:57] This action is reasonable and in the [48:59] public interest in that the [49:00] comprehensive growth plan strives to [49:02] enhance recreational opportunities. the [49:05] requested reszoning permits uses that [49:07] allow for the connection of park systems [49:09] and encourage tourism. [49:14] All right, we have a motion. Do I hear a [49:16] second? Second. [49:18] >> We have a motion and a second for [49:19] approval of the second motion. Is there [49:21] any further discussion? [49:23] All in favor say I. I. [49:26] >> Oppose like sign. And the motion [49:28] carries. All right. Thank you all very [49:30] much. [49:36] Up next on the agenda is the [49:37] reimbursement resolution for the general [49:39] fund capa capital investment program. [49:47] » Oh, I'm sorry. [49:49] No. [49:54] » Oh, I'm sorry. It's the I'm sorry, [49:55] Robert. I'm so excited to get to get, [49:58] you know, get you back up here again. My [50:00] apologies. Under new business, the next [50:03] item on the agenda is East Main Street [50:05] Sidewalk Connector BL000050, [50:08] award of contract. [50:11] Hi, Shannon. [laughter] [50:13] >> That's just what my agenda says. It [50:15] doesn't necessarily mean [50:16] >> Yes. Good evening, mayor, members of the [50:19] town council, and town manager. I'm [50:20] Tucker Creech, uh, project manager with [50:22] the town, and I'll be presenting this on [50:25] behalf of Shannon tonight. Before you [50:27] tonight is a bid recommendation for the [50:29] East Main Street Sidewalk Connector [50:31] BL000050 [50:33] and East Main Street public parking lot [50:35] along with a resolution authorizing [50:37] contract award and execution. [50:40] This project includes sidewalk [50:41] improvements along the East Main Street [50:43] corridor, including installation of new [50:45] sidewalks on both sides of the roadway, [50:47] drainage and hydraulic improvements, [50:49] traffic signal modifications, and [50:51] pavement markings. The sidewalk [50:53] connector was selected for funding by [50:54] Campo through the FHWA local assistance [50:57] program lap on May 30th, 2022. The [51:01] project was initially awarded $650,000 [51:04] at a 70% federal and 30% local cost [51:06] share and approximately $534,839 [51:11] remain for the construction phase. The [51:13] town has submitted a supplemental [51:14] funding request to Campo for $1,393,999 [51:20] proposed at a 50% federal and a 50% [51:23] local cost share. The request remained [51:25] subject to Campo review and approval. [51:27] The East Main Street public parking lot [51:29] was bid concurrently as an alternate. If [51:31] approved, the parking lot is locally [51:33] funded. Bids were publicly opened on [51:35] July 23rd, 2026. Fred Smith Company [51:39] submitted the lowest responsive [51:40] responsible bid of $1,194,900 [51:44] for the East Main Street sidewalk [51:46] connector and 222,200 [51:49] for the East Main Street public parking [51:50] lot bid alternate. Construction duration [51:52] for this is 240 calendar days and award [51:55] of the sidewalk connector contract is [51:57] contingent upon a Campo approval of the [52:00] supplemental funding request. The bid [52:02] package was reviewed by the engineer of [52:04] record and the town's procurement and [52:06] contracts manager. Both recommend award [52:08] of the contract to Fred Smith company as [52:10] the lowest responsive responsible [52:12] bidder. Staff respectfully requests that [52:15] town council adopt the resolution [52:16] conditionally awarding the East Main [52:18] Street sidewalk connector construction [52:20] contract and awarding the East Main [52:22] Street public parking lot construction [52:24] contract to Fred Smith Company, [52:26] authorizing the town manager or his [52:28] designate to execute the construction [52:30] contract and any associated change [52:31] orders necessary to complete the project [52:34] within the approved budget. I'm happy to [52:36] answer any questions the council may [52:37] have. [52:38] >> Thank you, Tucker. Any questions or [52:41] comments? Mr. Case, [52:43] >> hey. Hey, Tucker. Uh, sorry, I had a [52:45] couple questions. So, um, obviously I'm [52:48] familiar with this project and it's been [52:50] uh drugg along for quite a while, but [52:54] are we also making some improvements [52:55] over there by the railroad too and the [52:57] signaling signal? Is that is this [52:59] capturing that too? The signal uh where [53:03] um [53:05] uh where it intersects to by the post [53:07] office as well or is this [53:08] >> central street? [53:09] >> Yeah, central street. Yeah, this is [53:11] separate separate. [53:12] >> All right. I just want I just getting [53:14] those two confused. And then then that's [53:15] okay. So the next question I did have [53:17] then is um regarding the phasing of [53:19] this. I know that there's that parking [53:21] lot you're talking about. Um is that [53:23] going to be is the intent to have that [53:26] parking lot kind of situated first and [53:28] then do the road improvements to best as [53:31] possible or [53:32] >> Yes, sir. So the the parking lot will [53:34] take place at the beginning on the front [53:36] end of the project and while the parking [53:38] lot is being built, those spaces will [53:39] not be destroyed until that parking lot [53:42] is ready to be used. [53:44] >> Okay. Thank you. [53:45] >> Yes, sir. [53:47] Anyone else? [53:51] » All right. Thank you, sir. [53:52] >> Yes, sir. [53:52] >> Great job. Thank you, Tucker. [54:01] » Yeah. Yeah, I need a motion. I'll [54:03] entertain a motion. [54:05] >> I make a motion to [54:11] uh make a motion to um approval of [54:14] contract and agreement and then I um do [54:17] I have to make these motions separately [54:18] or can I make them all together? [54:21] or I need [54:22] to make them separately? [54:23] >> Contact. [54:24] >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve [54:27] contract and agreement for the East Main [54:30] Street sidewalk connector BL000050. [54:33] >> Second. [54:34] >> We have a motion and a second for [54:36] approval of the contract agreement. Is [54:37] there any further discussion? [54:39] >> All in favor say I. [54:41] >> I. [54:42] >> Opposed. Motion carries. [54:44] >> And then I'll make a motion to adopt [54:46] resolution 2026-50 [54:49] for the East Main Street sidewalk [54:51] connector. [54:53] >> Second. We have a motion and a second [54:56] for the adoption of resolution number [54:57] 2026-50 [54:59] for the East Main Street sidewalk [55:01] connector. Is there any further [55:02] discussion? All in favor say I. [55:05] >> I. [55:06] >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. [55:13] Now up next is a reimbursement [55:14] resolution for the general fund capital [55:16] improvement program. [55:27] Good evening, Mayor, members of council. [55:29] Uh tonight we're asking council to [55:31] approve a uh reimbursement resolution [55:33] for the general fund capital improvement [55:35] program, an amount not to exceed $70 [55:37] million. If uh council recalls back when [55:41] Davenport did their affordability [55:43] analysis, that 5-year period from 2027 [55:47] to 2031, [55:49] uh there was projected about $65.8 [55:51] million in new debt issuance. So, we're [55:54] adding a little bit of inflation factor [55:55] there. This will give the town [55:57] flexibility to reimburse itself for any [56:00] uh I'll refer to as soft costs, [56:02] engineering, design, so on before we [56:05] actually enter into a finance agreement [56:06] for a project. But by having this in [56:09] place, that allows us to reimburse ourel [56:11] for that. Um, so again, we're asking [56:14] council to approve that. Any questions? [56:16] I'll be happy to uh answer. [56:19] >> Questions or comments. [56:22] >> All right. Thank you, Robert. I'll [56:25] entertain a motion. [56:29] Mr. Mr. Mayor, I will make a motion for [56:32] adoption of the resolution for the [56:36] general fund capital improvement program [56:38] reimbursement. [56:39] >> Second. [56:40] >> We have a motion and a second for [56:42] adoption of the resolution. Is there any [56:44] further discussion? All in favor say I. [56:47] >> I. [56:48] >> Opposed. Motion carries. [56:51] >> Thank you. [56:51] >> Yes, sir. Thank you. Up next are budget [56:54] amendments. [56:57] >> Okay. Good evening again. Uh tonight we [56:59] have four budget amendments. Three of [57:01] them are for new capital project bud [57:04] budget ordinances and one is an [57:06] amendment to an existing capital project [57:08] budget ordinance. Uh the first one is [57:10] the uh capital project budget ordinance [57:13] to renovate and uh restore the Robertson [57:17] Muar building. Uh we're allocating $2 [57:20] million for that project. uh 1.3 million [57:23] of town funds, payo funds, and the [57:26] remaining $700,000 is the uh grant award [57:29] we received from the re recent [57:31] legislative action. [57:34] Uh the second uh capital project [57:37] ordinance is for the uh East Main Street [57:40] pedestrian connector, which is the [57:42] project you just awarded the contract [57:43] for. Um, that's a $2.3 million total [57:47] cost project and not quite a 50/50 split [57:51] because there's some ineligible costs in [57:53] there that DOT won't reimburse. Uh, but [57:56] basically it's a million2 contribution [57:58] from the town and about a million one [58:00] from uh the TIP program. [58:04] The uh third capital project budget [58:06] ordinance is uh this is our capital [58:10] improvement program reserve. This is the [58:12] uh five pennies that council has [58:15] committed to fund the CIP program. Uh [58:18] right now that stands at about $6.1 [58:20] million and represents three years [58:23] worth. It represents 2024, 2025, and [58:27] 2026. That five that five penny reserve. [58:30] We're putting that into a capital [58:32] separate capital project uh fund. Help [58:36] us be able to keep track of that better [58:38] as we move forward. and uh when we need [58:40] it, we'll move money out of that fund to [58:43] the applicable [58:45] capital project that it's associated [58:47] with. [58:48] Uh the last one is an amendment to our [58:51] uh existing uh general governmental [58:55] program initiative fund. And what we're [58:57] doing there is taking uh $300,000 that [59:00] we had allocated in there for sidewalks [59:02] and improvements and we're going to [59:04] transfer that over to the East Main [59:05] Street uh pedestrian project to help [59:08] fund the town's contribution for that. [59:13] So, it's just a realignment in the [59:14] budget. We'll pull that out and transfer [59:16] that money over. [59:20] Any questions on any of those [59:23] >> questions or comments? [59:27] All right. Thank you, Robert. Um, any [59:30] further discussion? [59:33] If not, I'll entertain a motion. [59:38] » Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion [59:40] to adopt the ordinance for the budget [59:43] amendments. [59:46] » Second. [59:47] >> We have a motion and a second for the [59:49] adoption of the ordinance for the budget [59:51] amendments. [clears throat] Is there any [59:52] further discussion? All in favor say I. [59:56] >> oppose like sign. Motion carries. Thank [59:59] you. Thank you. [1:00:03] » I'll now open the floor for public [1:00:04] comment. Anyone wishing to speak, please [1:00:06] step forward and state your name for the [1:00:08] record. [1:00:20] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of [1:00:21] council. My name is Mike Edwards [1:00:23] Twining. I live at 40 Red Crab Epo Court [1:00:25] here in Clayton and appreciate the [1:00:28] opportunity to follow up on the comments [1:00:30] I made at your last meeting regarding a [1:00:32] significant transportation issue that [1:00:34] deserves your attention and action now [1:00:37] before it becomes a much larger and more [1:00:40] expensive problem. With a retail [1:00:42] expansion along Clayton Boulevard, [1:00:44] specifically the construction of a new [1:00:46] Target department store in a Costco [1:00:48] warehouse adjacent to the existing [1:00:50] Walmart, it is undeniably clear that [1:00:53] traffic volumes will increase [1:00:55] substantially in that corridor. [1:00:58] Congestion already exists today and [1:01:00] these new developments will only [1:01:02] compound this issue. Anyone who travels [1:01:06] that stretch of road, especially between [1:01:08] 3:00 and 6:30 on a weekday afternoon [1:01:11] feels my pain. They know what I'm [1:01:12] talking about. But before I go any [1:01:14] further, I would like to thank council [1:01:16] member Casey and planning director [1:01:18] Almeido for taking the time to speak [1:01:21] with me after that last council meeting [1:01:23] and for our follow-up email [1:01:25] conversations. I genuinely appreciate [1:01:28] the dialogue and the opportunity to [1:01:30] better understand what the town and DOT [1:01:33] are considering. So, thank you, [1:01:35] gentlemen. Adding an extended right turn [1:01:38] lane to access that new retail area is [1:01:41] part of the plan, and I certainly [1:01:43] understand how that could help traffic [1:01:44] getting into the new development. But [1:01:47] respectfully, I believe that makes only [1:01:50] a dent in a much larger problem. It [1:01:53] doesn't address the congestion that's [1:01:55] already happening on Clayton Boulevard [1:01:57] or the additional traffic the new [1:02:00] Target, Costco, and other retail [1:02:02] development will bring. Other measures [1:02:05] are being discussed to address [1:02:07] congestion. I certainly hope those [1:02:09] measures work, but given the growth [1:02:11] we're seeing, we also need to think [1:02:13] about additional capacity. I've seen [1:02:16] this movie before. The concern here is [1:02:19] that we already know how the movie can [1:02:21] end. Look at Capitol Boulevard between [1:02:24] Wake Forest and Raleigh. It serves much [1:02:26] the same purpose for that area that [1:02:28] Clayton Boulevard serves for us. A major [1:02:32] route in and out of town. Growth [1:02:34] continued, traffic increased, and road [1:02:38] improvements didn't keep pace. The [1:02:41] result, years of stopand go traffic. I [1:02:45] don't want Clayton Boulevard to become [1:02:47] our version of Capitol Boulevard. We [1:02:49] shouldn't wait until we're sitting in [1:02:51] bumper-to-bumper traffic every day, [1:02:53] watching the backups skid longer and the [1:02:55] delays get worse to finally decide we [1:02:59] needed more lanes earlier. [1:03:02] This is a safety issue, an economic [1:03:04] issue, and a quality of life issue. So, [1:03:07] I'm asking the town council to please [1:03:10] formally petition NC DOT to make adding [1:03:14] a travel lane in both directions on this [1:03:16] stretch of Clayton Boulevard a priority. [1:03:19] The growth isn't coming, it's here, [1:03:22] [clears throat] and now is a time to [1:03:24] make sure Clayton Boulevard is ready to [1:03:26] handle it. I believe Clayton residents [1:03:29] deserve better than to spend the next 10 [1:03:31] to 15 years sitting in traffic waiting [1:03:33] for the road to catch up. Don't you? [1:03:37] Thank you for your time, your service to [1:03:38] our community, and your consideration. [1:03:41] Good evening. [1:03:42] >> Thank you so much. [1:03:55] » I'mma tell you, Bruce is going to insist [1:03:57] on ladies first. [1:04:05] Good evening, town of Clayton. It's Kam [1:04:08] Fulwood from the Johnston County Public [1:04:10] Health Department again with your [1:04:11] quarterly update. I just wanted to make [1:04:14] sure that everybody in Clayton knew that [1:04:16] we had a medical facility, which is your [1:04:19] public health department. We have [1:04:21] services for adult health. Uh we have a [1:04:24] child health clinic. We have [1:04:25] epidemiology. Um we have health [1:04:28] promotion programs. We have an on-site [1:04:30] lab. We just want to make sure that [1:04:32] everybody who needs medical care in our [1:04:34] county can access it with no barriers. [1:04:37] We also want to make sure that our [1:04:39] rising seventh graders and 12th graders [1:04:41] are getting their vaccines for back to [1:04:43] school. We're taking appointments and [1:04:45] making appointments every day. So, let's [1:04:48] make sure that those who would like the [1:04:49] vaccine, they can access that. We also [1:04:53] have a chronic pain self-management [1:04:55] class that we're actually working with [1:04:57] your parks and wreck to offer. and we [1:04:59] are uber excited and uber thank you. Uh [1:05:02] we want to say thank you so much for [1:05:04] that opportunity. Um and that'll be [1:05:06] coming up here shortly. We have a [1:05:08] virtual smoking sessation class. So if [1:05:11] anyone who is interested in quitting [1:05:13] smoking um who's over 18, we would like [1:05:15] for you to participate if you like if it [1:05:17] fits into your schedule. We also have a [1:05:21] um community resource fair that is [1:05:24] coming up September the 11th if anyone [1:05:27] would like to stop by our behavioral [1:05:29] health division and pick up some [1:05:30] information and resources as it relates [1:05:33] to uh community resources, mental [1:05:36] health, and general health. We would [1:05:37] love for you to swing by. Um there may [1:05:40] be some food available. [1:05:44] [laughter] [1:05:45] Um, and we also have a diabetes [1:05:47] prevention program that will be starting [1:05:49] at the beginning of September. Believe [1:05:51] it or not, uh, we want to make sure that [1:05:54] we don't have everybody become, um, type [1:05:56] 2 diabetic. So, any way that you can [1:05:59] prevent that, uh, please take advantage [1:06:01] of that free program. Um, I also want to [1:06:05] mention that we do have access to the [1:06:07] 988 suicide and crisis lifeline. So, if [1:06:12] any of our residents in our county are [1:06:14] um you know, needing some resources as [1:06:16] it relates to mental health and suicide, [1:06:19] 988 is the number they would call. Thank [1:06:22] you so much. [1:06:23] >> Thank you so much for the updates. [1:06:37] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council [1:06:39] members. I'm Bruce Neglin with the the [1:06:41] president of the Clayton Historical [1:06:42] Association. I'll take a break for just [1:06:44] a second. [1:06:55] » Thank you. [1:07:03] Congratulations, [1:07:10] Robert, by the way. I I enjoyed working [1:07:12] with you when I was working for the [1:07:13] town. [1:07:15] Although we had our disagreements, you [1:07:16] were usually always right. So, [1:07:18] [laughter] [1:07:19] what could I do, right? But anyway, um [1:07:22] we are having a celebration, America 250 [1:07:25] celebration of uh of uh America and uh [1:07:30] in our little part here of America in [1:07:32] Clayton in Johnston County. It's the [1:07:34] America 250 Heritage Festival [1:07:37] celebrating Clayton's story on September [1:07:39] 12th, um from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. [1:07:44] And it's going to be at Town Square. And [1:07:46] first before anything else, I wanted to [1:07:47] mention that uh um Amy Sharon has been [1:07:51] just a gem to work with and getting uh [1:07:54] all the things worked out for there. So [1:07:56] I wanted to say say we appreciate that a [1:07:58] lot. The goal of this is to uh present [1:08:01] to the community a [1:08:05] I don't want to say a recreation because [1:08:06] it's not it's not even a replication but [1:08:09] something similar to show what a village [1:08:12] in the mid70s [1:08:15] would have been like in the area that [1:08:18] eventually became a 100 years later [1:08:20] Clayton North Carolina. And uh so we're [1:08:23] going to have all sorts of different uh [1:08:25] activities. We have about 15 uh [1:08:29] demonstrators. Uh that doesn't sound [1:08:31] right, does it? But it sort of sounds [1:08:33] right, but not really. I guess [1:08:35] demonstrations, let's put it that way. [1:08:37] Uh blacksmith, um beekeeping, historic [1:08:40] tools, candle making, uh Native American [1:08:43] display, uh some North Carolina [1:08:46] folklore, uh um let's see, this is only [1:08:50] a draft version, so I'm [laughter] [1:08:53] still making changes. Uh we're going to [1:08:54] learn about colonial clothing and um uh [1:08:58] we're going to have a birds of prey uh [1:09:00] demonstration too. So I think it's a red [1:09:03] tail hawk that's going to be be on the [1:09:05] thing. We're going to also have some [1:09:06] traditional foods including Brunswick [1:09:09] stew right there in the parking lot. Um [1:09:12] kids will be able to learn how to make [1:09:13] rag dolls. Um we're going to have some [1:09:16] period music and toys and games. Um, [1:09:19] we're going to have uh an emperic an [1:09:22] African apothecary. How do how did uh [1:09:26] those folks uh heal each heal [1:09:29] themselves? And uh and turns out it's a [1:09:31] lot like the way the life white folks [1:09:33] did, too. But um uh we're going to also [1:09:36] have a spinning wheel spinning cotton [1:09:38] and all that kind of stuff to show how [1:09:39] that works. And uh we're just real [1:09:42] excited about that. The other thing that [1:09:44] we're going to be doing is having um uh [1:09:48] Has anybody ever heard of an ordinary? [1:09:52] Back in the day, it was uh kind of like [1:09:55] a tavern, but it was almost more like a [1:09:57] gathering space um where uh folks uh who [1:10:02] were who were traveling would stop and [1:10:05] they would be lodging as well as care [1:10:08] for their horses. Um, [1:10:11] and of course a tavern and you had to [1:10:13] have that and um and other things like [1:10:16] that, but it was also like a town [1:10:18] gathering spot where uh people learn the [1:10:21] news of the day and and what was going [1:10:23] on everywhere else. Um, we're going to [1:10:26] have a little our own recreation of [1:10:29] Gregory's ordinance, which actually was [1:10:31] a real place uh at the east end far east [1:10:35] end of uh Front Street uh close by near [1:10:39] in the area of Highway 42 in Front [1:10:42] Street. Um [1:10:44] and um uh so we're going to have one of [1:10:47] those in order to be able to [1:10:52] um debut a commemorative [1:10:56] beer um Gregory's Ordinary uh that uh [1:11:01] Deep River is doing for us uh that will [1:11:03] be available from that day to the rest [1:11:06] through the rest of 2026. [1:11:10] So uh is that the right way? 2026. [1:11:12] Anyway, and um so it was also the spot [1:11:16] of our own little regulator uh uprising [1:11:20] where some a bunch of residents, a [1:11:22] number of residents in the area uh were [1:11:25] upset at the king's taxes and the uh way [1:11:29] some of his figures and subjects were uh [1:11:32] were not were were behaving with in [1:11:35] their eyes mismanaging and that kind of [1:11:37] thing. And uh of course those uprisings [1:11:40] led ultimately to our uh independence. [1:11:44] Um and let's see. So we're also going to [1:11:47] have Camp Flintlock here with us. Um uh [1:11:50] they're going to do a drum and fore, [1:11:52] have a musket demonstration, have a [1:11:54] colonial store, so you get to see other [1:11:56] things like that. And then the the thing [1:11:58] that I'm really excited about in [1:12:00] addition to all the other stuff that [1:12:02] we're doing is we're going to have two [1:12:04] readings of the Declaration of [1:12:05] Independence that day. and listening to [1:12:09] one person read the declaration could be [1:12:11] a little tedious and for the person as [1:12:13] well as for the listeners. So, we're [1:12:15] going to shake it up and have multiple [1:12:17] people reading uh the declaration both [1:12:20] times. And uh we're going to extend [1:12:23] invitations to each of you if you're [1:12:25] available to come out and uh read a few [1:12:28] lines of the declaration. So, we hope [1:12:29] that everybody will come out for that. [1:12:32] And what else do we need to say? We [1:12:33] still need some volunteers. Um, so [1:12:36] anybody can reach me if you want to join [1:12:38] us that day. And I do want to thank our sponsors uh Duke Energy Foundation [1:12:44] signed on real early with us and we [1:12:46] appreciate that. A major uh uh grant for [1:12:50] that from them and um Hometown Realy HTR [1:12:54] and the town of Clayton as well and the [1:12:57] Clayton Historical Association. So, uh, [1:13:00] we appreciate all that you all do [1:13:02] daytoday and hope that you'll come out [1:13:04] on September 12th for the America 250 [1:13:08] Heritage Festival, uh, celebrating [1:13:10] Clayton's story at Town Square. So, [1:13:13] >> sounds very exciting. [1:13:15] >> It's going to be I like it. [1:13:16] >> Yeah. Well, good. [1:13:17] >> Thank you. [1:13:18] >> Are you going to be in town? [1:13:19] >> I think so. On September 12th. I got to [1:13:21] look at that calendar. I would love to. [1:13:22] >> And then mark it up. [1:13:24] >> Yes. Okay. Good deal. Thank you. Thank [1:13:27] you, Bruce. Anyone [1:13:31] else? [1:13:34] All right. No one else wishing to speak. [1:13:35] I'll close public comment. [1:13:41] Uh now we'll jump down to staff reports [1:13:43] beginning with the town manager. [1:13:47] Uh two quick items. One, I did want to [1:13:49] uh address the the questions about [1:13:51] Clayton Boulevard. uh it's a few years [1:13:54] old and so we were going to have to [1:13:56] check with DOT in terms of the status [1:13:58] but uh one of their the plan that they [1:14:00] had had for that corridor was to convert [1:14:02] it to a reduced conflict intersection. [1:14:04] So if anybody's driven on NC Highway 55 [1:14:07] in the Holly Springs area in western [1:14:08] Wake County effectively uh it reduces [1:14:12] the number of actual leftovers or full [1:14:14] access intersections. uh from a safety [1:14:17] perspective, it eliminates uh some of [1:14:19] the most uh uh uh detrimental uh [1:14:23] movements that could cause accidents. Uh [1:14:26] but also from a traffic flow, it allows [1:14:27] you to get a lot more capacity up and [1:14:29] down the road with the existing lanes [1:14:31] that are there um as opposed to having [1:14:34] to just continue to add lanage. Um it's [1:14:37] been a few years. I do know that some of [1:14:38] those conversations uh kind of revived [1:14:40] slightly when we were discussing the [1:14:41] Hebner property with them and and the [1:14:43] turn lanes that ultimately ended up [1:14:44] being required, but uh we can certainly [1:14:47] look at what their plan was to that. I [1:14:49] don't believe it was in the the late [1:14:50] most recent stip, but I'll certainly um [1:14:54] work with staff to have conversations to [1:14:55] see how we can bring that back to the uh [1:14:57] back to the top. Uh the second item I [1:15:00] wanted to give you all a quick update on [1:15:02] um I think might have been two meetings [1:15:04] ago. We had some residents come uh from [1:15:06] the Carolina Overlook area with some [1:15:07] concerns with regards to uh storm water [1:15:09] runoff and and retaining walls uh out [1:15:12] there. Um since then, I just wanted to [1:15:15] uh give you all an update. Our staff [1:15:16] have been out there several times. I [1:15:18] believe several of you have been out [1:15:19] there meeting with uh various residents [1:15:21] as well as um we've met with the [1:15:23] developer multiple times. I've spoken [1:15:25] with them directly as well. uh PY has [1:15:27] been uh committed to uh resolving or [1:15:30] addressing the issues. I know talking to [1:15:32] our staff. Um part of this has been um [1:15:35] for a couple of those rain events that [1:15:36] we had. You know, one of the notes I [1:15:37] have here was that we did receive 5 in [1:15:39] of rainfall in a 72-hour period. That is [1:15:41] a very overwhelming storm, particularly [1:15:44] when it comes to these uh intermittent [1:15:45] measures that are designed for erosion [1:15:47] control while construction project is [1:15:49] underway. Uh and so uh that has uh [1:15:52] probably uh added to uh the the the the [1:15:56] cons the impact or at least exasperated [1:15:58] it for the time being for the phase of [1:16:00] construction that we're in. Um you know [1:16:03] some of the other items there um uh the [1:16:06] last inch of asphalt has not been placed [1:16:09] on. That is a typical construction [1:16:10] technique for us. Uh that goes on [1:16:12] effectively when most of the home [1:16:14] building is already complete. That way [1:16:15] we're not damaging brand new pavement. [1:16:17] Um the converse of that is when we get [1:16:19] these large rain events because that [1:16:21] last inch of rainfall is not there. All [1:16:23] of the rain that hits the roadway cannot [1:16:24] make its way into the catch basin. So [1:16:26] effectively it bypasses and it collects [1:16:28] and and makes a much larger um mar you [1:16:32] know larger amount of quantity of water [1:16:34] that that that collects uh lower down in the drainage area. So u those couple [1:16:40] things um added to you know the fact [1:16:42] that the lots had not been built yet. [1:16:44] So, we've got bare dirt that that that [1:16:45] allows for more runoff to come off, more [1:16:48] erosion. Um, all of those items uh [1:16:51] believe our staff uh have worked with PY [1:16:53] to get them addressed. Um they they've [1:16:56] added a lot of check dams. U basically [1:16:58] uh ways to slow the water down as it's [1:17:01] coming, so less erosion again and [1:17:03] hopefully more infiltration as it's [1:17:04] coming. Um so fence was added along all [1:17:08] the fronts and rears of the undeveloped [1:17:10] lots. So again, that should hopefully [1:17:12] reduce the amount of rain coming uh [1:17:14] excuse me, drainage uh leaving the [1:17:16] leaving those sites [1:17:18] as well as they added some silt bags in [1:17:20] the roadway catch basins and removed [1:17:22] some of the hardware cloth that was that [1:17:24] was diverting water away from the catch [1:17:25] basins and getting into those systems. [1:17:27] So um from a erosion control perspective [1:17:31] um those are I think I've mentioned it [1:17:33] to you all before but uh just as a [1:17:34] reminder um the measures that are [1:17:37] approved with those types of uh uh [1:17:39] permits um they are performance-based so [1:17:43] as rain patterns may or may not change [1:17:44] during a season or construction phases [1:17:46] change. our staff do do meet routinely [1:17:49] with developers out in the field to [1:17:51] require them to either do maintenance of [1:17:53] or in some cases addition to whatever [1:17:56] was previously approved uh to to address [1:17:58] any issues while they're while they're [1:18:00] working. And so uh I know our staff has [1:18:02] had several com conversations with them [1:18:05] and and required some additional [1:18:06] measures and uh PY has been um willing [1:18:09] to put all those in and and operate [1:18:11] excuse me and maintain them uh moving [1:18:13] forward. Um, with regards to walls, um, [1:18:17] all of those retaining walls do require [1:18:19] professional engineers, uh, to not only [1:18:20] design them, but to also inspect them, [1:18:22] uh, as well as give us final acceptance. [1:18:24] Um, they've gone back to their engineers [1:18:26] to make sure that any of these walls [1:18:28] that have had that have seen a [1:18:30] significant amount of runoff that was [1:18:31] not maybe originally intended just [1:18:34] because of the phase in this [1:18:35] construction like I mentioned. Uh, but, [1:18:37] uh, as of right now, they are continuing [1:18:39] to to to monitor those and any [1:18:41] actionable items. Uh the note I've got [1:18:42] here is that any action items that were [1:18:44] recommended uh by the licensed engineer [1:18:46] uh have been or will be completed. So u [1:18:49] just want to give you an update on that. [1:18:51] Um you know the the [1:18:54] this is going to sound bad. The sooner [1:18:56] they're able to complete their [1:18:57] construction out there hopefully the the [1:18:59] less uh uh likelihood there's going to [1:19:02] be to have any of these events that are [1:19:03] going to be affecting either the [1:19:04] retaining walls themselves or any of the [1:19:06] neighboring lots or or roadways around [1:19:08] them. So we will continue to monitor it. uh staff will be out there [1:19:13] uh under major rain events like we are [1:19:15] typically as already and um certainly [1:19:19] provide any additional uh updates as [1:19:22] that comes forward. So um but just [1:19:25] didn't want to leave that out there and um let you know that we're on it. [1:19:31] That's it for me tonight. [1:19:32] >> All right. Thanks, Rich. Town attorney, [1:19:36] >> town clerk, [1:19:37] >> no report. [1:19:38] >> Other staff [1:19:50] Mr. Mayor, council, uh, wanted to take [1:19:52] an opportunity to, uh, let you guys know [1:19:55] about a special event we're having on [1:19:57] September 14th, uh, in partnership with [1:19:59] the Clayton Center. It will be a um [1:20:03] event that begins at 7 pm, runs to 8:30, [1:20:06] and one of the biggest portions of that [1:20:08] will be the viewing of a documentary on [1:20:11] the Robertson Mule building. Um that [1:20:14] documentary, uh I know none of you guys [1:20:16] have had a chance to see it yet, but [1:20:17] we're very excited to be able to [1:20:18] premiere it that night. It captures the [1:20:20] building at a very, um unique point in [1:20:23] its history. It's the end of one era and [1:20:26] the beginning of another. And um it [1:20:30] really sells the um potential of what [1:20:33] that place could be and we're very [1:20:35] excited to be able to show that to you [1:20:37] guys and the community. We have the [1:20:39] Robertson family coming in to view it. [1:20:41] Uh all those that participated, the [1:20:43] stakeholder groups, the boards uh will [1:20:45] be coming in that night. Uh, [1:20:47] additionally, we'll have Jacob's [1:20:48] Engineering coming in to give the uh, [1:20:51] adaptive reuse study presentation so uh, [1:20:54] the public can kind of see, you know, [1:20:56] what are the possibilities for the [1:20:58] building and then we will um, have a few [1:21:02] giveaways and an opportunity for public [1:21:04] feedback at the end of the event. But we [1:21:06] just wanted to have you guys that on [1:21:08] your calendar. It's September 14th at [1:21:10] 7:00 p.m. in the Clayton Center. [1:21:14] We hope to see you. [1:21:16] Thank you. [1:21:22] Yep. It's already on our calendar. Thank [1:21:24] you. [1:21:26] Uh other business, mayor and council [1:21:28] comments. Mayor Pro March. [1:21:31] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um thank you for to [1:21:33] the Girl Scouts for being here this [1:21:35] evening. It was really lovely to chat [1:21:36] with all of you and I really see each of [1:21:39] you as a future leader in our town. you [1:21:41] asked fantastic questions and I can tell [1:21:44] you're thinking about your community and [1:21:45] your heart is in the right place. So, [1:21:47] thank you for being here and taking time [1:21:49] to speak with us as well. Um, and then [1:21:51] just in general looking out in the room, [1:21:53] it's so awesome. There's so many [1:21:54] familiar faces here and so glad for [1:21:57] everybody that came to speak on [1:21:58] something or represent an issue that you [1:22:00] believe in. Good to see you all out [1:22:02] there from health to parks to roadways. [1:22:05] And then I wanted to speak and I didn't [1:22:06] catch your name. I'm sorry. I was not [1:22:08] writing fast enough. Transportation [1:22:10] fella. Yes, Mike. Um, and I know I [1:22:13] believe you came to our last council [1:22:15] meeting as well and I really appreciated [1:22:16] your comments about Clayton Boulevard [1:22:18] and I wanted to throw out there uh that [1:22:20] we do have that Clayton transportation [1:22:22] plan and it is available online and that [1:22:25] was a lengthy process to come up with [1:22:27] that document. there was a large [1:22:29] stakeholder and steering committee that [1:22:32] gave a lot of input to that. And one [1:22:35] idea that's in there, and I don't know [1:22:37] the status of it currently, but it [1:22:39] pertains to what you're talking about at [1:22:41] Clayton Boulevard that really caught my [1:22:43] attention at the time, is there's kind [1:22:45] of two philosophies for dealing with [1:22:47] that road. And one is, as we all would [1:22:50] make sense to us logically, add more [1:22:52] lanes, get more cars through more [1:22:54] quickly so we're not sitting in the [1:22:56] road. and the Girl Scouts and I were [1:22:58] talking about, you know, the the traffic [1:23:01] and the consequences of the growth and [1:23:03] how it clogs up the roads and things [1:23:05] like that. The philosophy that the [1:23:07] consultant presented to us as part of [1:23:09] that plan was actually having redundancy [1:23:12] and it involved fortifications being [1:23:15] made to old 70 and certain improvements [1:23:20] on that street. and they actually ran [1:23:22] the models and they compared adding [1:23:25] lanes to Clayton Boulevard versus having [1:23:28] redundancy so you get an alternative. [1:23:31] Um, and they presented a really in my in [1:23:34] my opinion compelling case for that [1:23:36] because you think of for example if if [1:23:38] all the traffic is concentrated on [1:23:40] Clayton Boulevard and there's an [1:23:41] accident there, you potentially shut [1:23:43] down that entire road. Whereas, if you [1:23:46] have redundancy, if you have an [1:23:48] alternative that is fortified, that [1:23:49] maybe has additional lanes or at least a [1:23:51] turn lane or right turn lanes or things [1:23:54] like that, that it's a much more [1:23:56] efficient idea. And so, I don't really [1:23:59] know where that stands. And then I [1:24:01] remember the other obstacle that was [1:24:03] involved with that was it was maybe a [1:24:06] little bit more of a forwardthinking [1:24:08] idea or novel idea than what our DOT [1:24:11] would generally have accepted or wanted [1:24:15] to do. I'm trying to say that as [1:24:17] politely as I possibly can. But um [1:24:19] anyway, I just would encourage I'm I'm [1:24:21] really glad you brought it up. it's [1:24:23] going to motivate me to go back to the [1:24:24] plan and find those pages and bring it [1:24:27] here and maybe there's something we can [1:24:29] do politically or in the broader scope [1:24:31] to revive that idea or get it [1:24:33] popularized if you know the people that [1:24:36] are smarter than I am actually think [1:24:37] it's a good idea. Thank you for [1:24:39] listening. [1:24:40] Um, I just want to add to that because [1:24:42] you took the words right out of my mouth [1:24:44] that that old 70 U possibility. It [1:24:47] sounded like a great idea to your point. [1:24:49] If there's a wreck and even if there's [1:24:51] not a wreck, people may choose to take [1:24:53] that way and it allows more flow on that [1:24:56] road that that takes flow off of 70. So, [1:24:58] I thought that was pretty innovative [1:25:00] idea. And I also enjoyed talking to the [1:25:03] Girl Scouts. I was very impressed with [1:25:05] your questions. They were thoughtful [1:25:07] questions. It's clear you had thought [1:25:08] about those. It was just not what is it [1:25:11] like to be a town council person. It was [1:25:13] about litter. It was about conservation. [1:25:17] It was about growth. So I I was very [1:25:20] impressed by your thoughtful questions [1:25:22] and for sure as uh my colleague said, [1:25:25] you guys are our future leaders and I'm [1:25:27] excited to see what you pay attention to [1:25:29] and um if you watch our meetings on [1:25:31] YouTube. So thank you uh for coming. And [1:25:34] I quickly wanted to add um to our town [1:25:37] manager's statement. I am one of the [1:25:39] council folks who went out to Carolina [1:25:41] Overlook after um the video and talked [1:25:44] to a lot of people and um I appreciate [1:25:47] them coming out and talking and what I [1:25:49] talking to me and sharing their [1:25:50] concerns, but what I also appreciate is [1:25:53] how fast the town jumped on it and how [1:25:55] quickly they reached out to Carolina [1:25:57] Overlook and PY and the response from PY [1:26:02] has been um rapid and they have [1:26:05] addressed every concern we've had and [1:26:07] I've also heard from homeowners out [1:26:09] there who have said they've seen changes [1:26:11] and they saw um action out there pretty [1:26:14] quickly and just know that it's ongoing [1:26:17] and the conversations I did say to a [1:26:20] couple of people that called just [1:26:21] because you're not seeing immediate [1:26:23] action sometimes doesn't mean that the [1:26:25] conversations aren't happening because I [1:26:26] can assure you and based on what our uh [1:26:29] town manager said the conversations are [1:26:31] ongoing and there were conversations [1:26:33] actually today um I know for a fact that [1:26:36] happened. So continue to let us know and [1:26:39] we love your feedback and just know that [1:26:41] it is going directly to the source and [1:26:43] the and and PY and the town and our [1:26:45] staff are reacting. So thank you for [1:26:47] that. [1:26:50] >> Awesome Mr. Case. [1:26:52] >> Thank you. Um I wanted to add to Miss [1:26:55] Archer and uh Miss uh Anderson. Thank [1:26:58] you. Um, not lost for words tonight, but [1:27:01] Mike, you know, you brought up some good [1:27:03] points about um, you know, the the [1:27:06] Clayton Boulevard. Uh, Miss Archer and I [1:27:08] were um on the steer the liaison on the [1:27:10] steering committee for the uh, [1:27:12] comprehensive transportation plan. And, [1:27:14] you know, I'm not as eloquent, but if [1:27:17] the DOT had it their way, they'd [1:27:18] probably make it a sixlane road. And [1:27:20] what we don't want is, you know, this [1:27:23] Clayton Boulevard to be a thorough fair [1:27:26] for everybody that's wanting to go from [1:27:28] point A to point B. Uh, and if I [1:27:30] remember correctly, when we did that, [1:27:32] uh, CTP, uh, our vision was it to be, [1:27:35] you know, a [clears throat] a road [1:27:37] that's more kind of integrated into the [1:27:39] town and all these ancillary roads, you [1:27:41] know, the bypass and some of this other [1:27:43] stuff. The people that are trying to go [1:27:44] through Clayton, they take those [1:27:46] alternate routes. So, you know, we don't [1:27:48] want, you know, Clayton Boulevard to be [1:27:50] a a sixlane road. We want it to be a uh [1:27:53] a place where people are intentionally [1:27:55] driving to go somewhere, hopefully going [1:27:57] somewhere in Clayton and not going to [1:27:59] Smithfield or Wilson Mills or somewhere [1:28:01] else like that. But I appreciate your [1:28:03] feedback and um to Miss Archer's point, [1:28:05] I mean that that's a very extensive and [1:28:07] that CTP was done about 2 years ago. Um [1:28:10] and a lot of smart people way smarter [1:28:12] than me were in the room and had a lot [1:28:13] of good ideas and um you know it is an [1:28:16] evolving process and we may need your [1:28:17] help some when you know that six lane [1:28:20] road or whatever eight lane road they [1:28:21] try to put there at some point in time [1:28:24] um maybe tries to happen. But anyway [1:28:26] want to thank you for that. Other two [1:28:28] other comments um obviously um for the [1:28:31] people that go to public schools uh [1:28:33] schools start back on Monday. So, I know [1:28:36] uh former council member did this, but [1:28:37] if we could just I know our public [1:28:39] safety and our staff is on on point and [1:28:42] prepared, but if we could just maybe [1:28:43] drive around the the uh schools in town [1:28:46] and just to make sure you there's [1:28:48] nothing that's blaring or obvious or any safety issues or concerns with what [1:28:53] our responsibility is or if there's [1:28:54] something maybe that's been overlooked [1:28:56] by the county, we could reach out to [1:28:57] them or the school system. So, anyway, [1:29:00] excited about that. I'll um I don't know [1:29:02] if my daughter is, but um school is [1:29:05] starting whether we like it or they like [1:29:07] it or not next week. Um last thing is [1:29:10] and I didn't get the chance to do this [1:29:11] cuz I was really looking to roast Robert [1:29:13] uh during his retirement. And Robert, I [1:29:15] must say you have made finance [1:29:19] not very exciting and very boring ever [1:29:22] since I've been here. And anytime I see [1:29:24] you coming up to talk about something, I [1:29:26] always make sure I need to get a cup of [1:29:28] coffee. But you know what? You do a damn [1:29:30] good job at it and I would not be able [1:29:33] to do what you do and you know you're a [1:29:36] great person. You tell great stories and [1:29:38] you're just all around a good guy. Enjoy [1:29:40] your retirement. Have fun. Don't think [1:29:43] about us. If we call you, please answer [1:29:45] though cuz we're probably going to have [1:29:46] a question or we're going to need some [1:29:48] help. But have a great retirement, man. [1:29:50] And congratulations. Really really [1:29:53] I appreciate that very much. [1:29:54] >> Yeah. Thank you. [1:29:55] >> Very kind. [1:29:56] >> Okay. I just like to say a few words [1:29:59] myself. I want to thank all of those [1:30:01] that came out and gave your public [1:30:02] comments. I really appreciate you taking [1:30:04] the time out and you have been heard. [1:30:06] That's that's one of my favorite [1:30:07] sayings, but we do appreciate those are [1:30:10] guests that observing tonight. We thank [1:30:12] you for coming as well. I do want to [1:30:14] give a shout out to the Girl Scouts. I [1:30:16] didn't get a chance to come talk to you [1:30:17] personally, but woman power. So stand [1:30:19] tall, seek your dreams, and you can get [1:30:22] there. Whatever you desire, you can do that. And I too would like to [1:30:26] say a few words to Mr. Robert. [1:30:30] I want to say that you leave behind a [1:30:31] legacy of hard work and your care. Mr. [1:30:34] Robert, I'm talking to you. Is he there? [1:30:37] Talking to you. But I want to thank you [1:30:39] and I have observed your work abilities [1:30:41] and the things you have done for the [1:30:43] town of Clayton. I appreciate that. So I [1:30:45] want to say to you, I wish you joy, [1:30:48] health, and peace in your years to come [1:30:51] and cheers to you for your next chapter. [1:30:54] We appreciate all that you do. Thank [1:30:56] you. [1:30:57] >> Thank you. Very appreciate. [1:30:59] >> And I forgot to thank Robert, so I'm [1:31:01] going to do that now. Um I had it all [1:31:03] written down what I was going to say. Um [1:31:05] I wanted to thank you for your attention [1:31:07] to detail and as the mayor said, your [1:31:10] always transparent response to anything [1:31:13] we ask you. you've left us in goodstead [1:31:16] with your records and your um [1:31:19] accountability piece and and I as a town [1:31:22] council person appreciate that and it's [1:31:24] going to serve the person who comes in [1:31:26] to try to fill your shoes well. Thank [1:31:29] you for everything you've done. [1:31:30] >> Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. [1:31:34] You did. [1:31:35] >> Okay. Um so this is what happens as [1:31:40] mayor when you allow your council [1:31:42] members to speak first. because I just [1:31:45] have to say I just want to reiterate [1:31:48] what my council members have said. We're [1:31:50] so excited to have all of you here [1:31:52] tonight and thank you for what you do [1:31:55] for our community. Uh the one thing that [1:31:57] hasn't been said or acknowledged and I [1:31:59] wasn't privy to conversations with these [1:32:01] two and with you all. But I want you to [1:32:03] get this. Uh the first time in Clayton's [1:32:06] history, the very first time in [1:32:08] Clayton's history that this governing [1:32:11] board is women. The majority are women. [1:32:14] It has and you can and and when we [1:32:17] break, you can look at all these [1:32:18] pictures up here on the right. You're [1:32:19] going to see there's a bunch of men and [1:32:21] one or two women. Most of those women [1:32:23] were always staff. Uh at some point, one [1:32:26] woman may have been elected to a council [1:32:28] member with a bunch of men. But this is [1:32:30] the first time in Clayton's history that [1:32:32] women on the town that women are the [1:32:34] majority on the town council. And it [1:32:36] doesn't mean that the Porter doesn't do [1:32:37] a great job because he and I both do. [1:32:39] But I'm just saying I think that really [1:32:41] speaks volumes to women in leadership, [1:32:43] right? So, thank you all for being here [1:32:45] tonight. Uh, I want to send out a [1:32:48] congratulations to Joe Stallings cuz Joe [1:32:51] is going to be our new deputy town [1:32:53] manager. He's our former uh, director of [1:32:56] economic development and I am sad to see [1:32:58] him leave that position. Uh, but he will [1:33:01] be extremely well suited for this new [1:33:03] job and congratulations to you. to make [1:33:07] a correction. He's not going to be He is [1:33:10] >> He's not going to be what? [1:33:11] >> Our our new deputy town manager. He is [1:33:13] our new deputy. [1:33:14] >> I was I was thinking I was referring to [1:33:17] he wasn't going to be in economic [1:33:18] development anymore, but uh I I think he [1:33:21] can cook two pots on the same stove, so [1:33:24] I'm not worried at all. No pressure. [1:33:28] Um, and I also want to uh express uh on [1:33:34] behalf of the town of Clayton our [1:33:35] deepest sympathies to the town of Wilson [1:33:37] Mills who lost Mayor Fleeter Bird uh on [1:33:40] Saturday. And Mayor Bird was an [1:33:43] exceptional leader. She was a kind and [1:33:45] gentle spirit. I never heard her raise [1:33:48] her voice. Always listened to her make [1:33:51] her point. Cool, calm, and collected. [1:33:54] and the world is a better place because [1:33:57] of her. The town of Wilson Mills um was [1:34:00] a great loss for them and I want to [1:34:03] acknowledge that during our meeting that [1:34:05] uh how much the town of Clayton [1:34:07] appreciates the relationship that we [1:34:09] have with the little old town of Wilson [1:34:11] Mills and while they may be a small town [1:34:13] they are really filled with good [1:34:15] everyday people. So, our sincerest [1:34:18] sympathies to Lita and her family and to [1:34:22] the town of Wheels and Mills. All right. [1:34:26] And that's all that I have. So, uh, with [1:34:29] that, I would like to I will entertain a [1:34:32] motion to go into close session, uh, to [1:34:34] discuss a legal matter and to discuss [1:34:36] the purchase of real property. [1:34:38] >> Mayor, Mayor, could we add to that a [1:34:40] personnel matter under section A6? and a [1:34:43] personnel matter under section A6. [1:34:46] >> Motion. [1:34:49] >> We have a motion and a second to go into [1:34:51] close session. Any further discussion? [1:34:53] All in favor say I. [1:34:54] >> I. [1:34:55] >> Opposed? Motion carries. Please clear [1:34:57] the room. Thank you. [3:11:31] There anything else to come before this [3:11:33] council? Hearing nothing, I'll entertain [3:11:35] a motion to adjurnn. [3:11:36] >> Motion. [3:11:37] >> Second. [3:11:38] >> All in favor say I. [3:11:40] >> I. [3:11:40] >> Motion carries. Good night. Thank you.