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Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Members of council and members of the public, thank you for joining us here. This is our special council meeting. It's a planning public meeting and today's date, of course, is August 26, 2026, where has the summer gone? It is now 530ish 530 pm. And so council is going to commence with our special council meeting. And we do have two very important items on here tonight, and we will get to those shortly.

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We have some members in the audience as well tonight, so we welcome that as always.

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So, if members of Council, I do want to acknowledge that Councillor Beillan does send

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his regrets tonight.

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He's unable to attend, but I'm sure he will watch this meeting at another time to

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catch himself up on the content.

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Councillor, at this time, I'm going to look at our approval of the agenda.

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Be it resolved.

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The Council of the Tunch will clear it be here by approval of the agenda.

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They did August 26th, 2026, as presented mover, Mr. MacArthur, Mr. Baraderek.

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Thank you very much. Any questions on the agenda? Seeing none, I'll call the motion

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all of favor. That carries unanimous. Thank you. At this time, I'll ask for council.

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Is there any declarations of computer interest in regards to the items on today's agenda?

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Seeing none, if anything comes up here in the meeting, please bring it forward at that time.

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So council, we're going to move to our public meeting, which is on number three.

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We do have the first item that will be presented and preceded by our Deputy Mayor Paul Vance

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Stavron, who will of course carry the meeting for the public meeting portion.

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So at this time, I'll turn the meeting over to Paul Vance Stavron.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And we will now initiate the public meeting portion of tonight's agenda.

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We invite you to comment on the applications being presented tonight into and engage

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the process with us.

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If you wish to be notified of the decision of the Corporation of the Township of Clearview on an application being discussed this evening, please complete a public delegation form and submit the form to the deputy clerk and our forms are sitting.

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There we go.

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There we go.

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The views expressed in the public comments are solely those of the individuals providing them and do not reflect the opinions of the township, its agents or its employees.

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It is not possible for the township to verify the accuracy of all information provided by members of the public.

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The township, therefore, assumes no responsibility for any inaccurate information that may be contained within the public comments.

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If you have information that might correct clarify or refute any statements contained within the public comments,

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please forward it to the township planning department.

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Please be advised at your comment or request to be notified of the public record.

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Your communication in any personal information therein will be made available to the public unless you expressly request its removal.

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If a person or public body would otherwise have an ability to appeal to the decision of the township of Clearview to the Ontario Land Tribunal,

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but the person public body does not make an oral submission at a public meeting or make a written submission before the proposed official plan,

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The person or public body is not entitled to appeal to the decision.

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If a person or public body does not make oral submission at a public meeting or make

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written submission to the council for clear view before the proposed official plan or

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zoning by law amendment is adopted or passed, the person or public body may not be

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added as a part of the hearing of an appeal for the Ontario Land Tribunal.

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Unless it's in the opinion of the Tribunal, there are reasonable grounds to add

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the person or public body as a party.

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The following public meeting will involve a brief presentation by our planning staff, an opportunity

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for the applicant or their agent to present their application, a period for public comments

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or questions and an opportunity for questions by the planning committee.

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So we will now begin the public meeting with respect to item 3.1 zone in the by-law amendment

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on for file 2026-033.

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The applicant is the venue and they'll very send you

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and is regarding property located at 793-273 county road 124

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and clear view.

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And our planning staff will now start with a brief presentation

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concerning the application.

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I believe it's Nick here the man tonight.

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All yours.

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Go ahead.

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Thank you, Chair.

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As indicated, my name is Nick Emily.

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I'm a community planner here at the Township Clearview.

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and I'm here to facilitate or assist in facilitating public meeting for a zoning by-law amendment

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application, 2,026 and ZB-09, just as a bit of a housekeeping, I'm going to provide a bit more

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of a high level overview of, as my presentation will provide, the application with the

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applicant that they're going to solve providing at brief presentation following, following

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both presentations, I'll be available to answer any questions from Councillor members of the

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the Western portion of the township, the located just north of Cairo 9 and south of

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6, 7 side road. They maintained front of John to Cairo 124 and just to note that they

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are directly west of the subject lands is the boundary with Miss Valdeer Gray Highlands

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with county one kind of road 124 being that boundary.

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Next slide. The purpose of the zoning

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about that while I'm in the application that's currently before Council tonight seeks to amend

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zoning on a portion of the subject lens,

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presently zoned as air cultural,

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to a air cultural related industrial exception zone

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to an AGI exception zone.

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The request to exceptions of that exception zone

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seek to alter the following provisions of the zoning bylaw,

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so they seek to limit or restrict the uses

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on that portion of the landscape's zone,

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strictly to a flower mill facility use,

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as well as add the following additional altar provision,

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which be the combined total minimum parking space requirement

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for the air-culture-related use, i.e. the flower mill is 19 spaces, which includes one barrier

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free parking space. The effect of the application is to emit a flower mill facility as an air

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culture-related use on the subject lands with sites for civic provisions. Next slide. As a part

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of the complete application package that was submitted, I believe in late June, the applicant did

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submit a number of additional materials. This included a cover letter, a conceptual site plan,

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of the reposal justification, a plain justification report, a draft zoning bylaw, a traffic opinion

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letter, a hydrogeological confirmation letter, permit drawings of the building itself, as

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Next slide. This is an aerial imagery of the subject lands. In terms of surrounding land uses, it's primarily air cultural, so air cultural residential uses and mainly air cultural, as indicated directly to the west is the Miss Valley Gray Highlands and again mainly air cultural uses on those portions of the lands.

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The subject lands are primarily used for air cultural use in cells. Primarily cash crop. There is one existing single touch dwelling as well as an air cultural building.

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And within the southwestern corner of the property, there is also a kind of a forced treat area.

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In terms of the official plan to policy, as well as zoning by-law policy,

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the subject lands are designated to hold these air cultural, if in the township,

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of clear-views official plan document.

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They are zone air cultural, as well as environmental protection.

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The EP zone is limited more to the forest area in the southwestern corner of the site.

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And there is a small portion of the front edge of the property that is regulated by the conservation authority as well.

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In terms of notice and circulation, this was given to the Planning Act.

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This was completed in August 5th.

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It was done via mailing of notification to all properties within 120 meters of the subject lens,

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as well as posting of notification signage on the front edge of the property.

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Details of the application is where materials have been made available to the public,

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So they are available online to view, under our current project

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website, and have also been circulated relevant

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comment agencies and internal departments.

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In terms of public comments, so all comments have received prior

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to the current agenda deadline for tonight's meeting.

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We're appended to the sort of public media agenda,

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believe under Appendix E. And any comments that are

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seen this evening or following that will form part of my

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pending recommendation report on the application.

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In terms of overall review process,

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the application was received on June 28th,

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oh, in 2026, I should say that's some typo.

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It was deemed complete on July 15th.

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Notice was given on August 5th,

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and tonight is the public meeting.

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Following tonight's public meeting,

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we will bring a recommendation report

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and Bala back to a subsequent council meeting for approval.

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And then here's my contact information

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for anyone in the audience or viewing online.

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If they want it, if any questions, let's contact me.

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Please feel free to. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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So I believe Amy Pellie will be presenting on behalf of the applicants tonight.

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General, she's all yours.

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So you'll be still telling them to advance your screen as you request.

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Awesome. Thank you.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

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Members of Council. My name is Carly Murphy.

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And I'm a planner with Powell Planning and Associates

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to see it's retained by the land owner of 793273 County Road 124 to evaluate the merits of

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the zoning by law amendment application. Next slide please.

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So this evening, this presentation

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will introduce the zoning by law amendment application as well as the subject applications

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consistency and conformity with both provincial and municipal policies. Next slide please.

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The purpose of this presentation is really to provide an overview of a subject application,

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which seeks planning approval to permit a flower and milk facility as an agricultural

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related use on the subject lands, and then I'll provide an overview of the comprehensive,

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provincial, county, and municipal policy analysis that was undertaken.

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Next slide please.

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So the subject lands are designated agricultural and zoned agricultural and environmental

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protection zone. There's an existing dwelling in a farm building on the property and the

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lands are used primarily for agricultural uses. The surrounding areas also predominantly

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used for agricultural uses with a wooded area located to the west. Next slide, please.

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The proposed Flower Mill Facility is considered an agricultural related use and that's permitted

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in the agricultural designation, subject to the passing of the zoning Bible amendment. The

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A direct application, therefore, proposes to rezone

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a portion of the property from agricultural

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to agriculturally-related industrial exception zone,

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specifically to permit the Flower Mill Facility

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as a site-specific permit at use.

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Next slide, please.

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So a comprehensive policy analysis

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was undertaken of applicable planning legislation

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and provincial municipal and county policies,

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which was also further detailed

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in the planning justification report

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of a submitted with the application.

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Next slide, please.

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The subject application is a guard for provincial interest

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under the Planning Act, which include protecting

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prime agricultural resources.

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The proposed fire mill facility is supported

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by provincial policy as the proposed use

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helps to protect prime agricultural areas.

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We'll also support economic opportunities

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to the agricultural sector as a compatible agricultural

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related use.

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Next slide, please.

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Agriculture-related uses are also permitted within prime agricultural areas under the

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provincial planning statement. The proposed fire mill facility supports the diversification

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of agricultural uses while protecting the agricultural land base and environmental features

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on the subject lands. Overall the application supports a healthy and viable rural area in

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the township and the county and the continued preservation and enhancement of the agricultural

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system, which is consistent with the policies of the PPS.

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Next slide, please.

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The subject application also conforms with the

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Synco County Official Plan policies.

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The lands remain protected for long-term agricultural use by keeping them within

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the agricultural designation.

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Well, the proposed agricultural-related use supports the

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agricultural sector and helps diversify the county's

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agricultural economy.

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Next slide, please.

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The Township's official plan policies permit agriculture-related uses, which are consistent with provincial and county policies as well.

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The proposed Flower Mill Facility will directly provide form-related products in the area as its primary activity,

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while being compatible with the surrounding agricultural operations to the subject lands.

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The establishment of agricultural related uses is encouraged to support the continued

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viability and long-term sustainability of the agricultural sector.

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The proposed firemilth facility can be permitted through a site-specific zoning

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bylaw amendment and conformity with the policies of the official plan.

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Next slide, please.

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The zoning bylaw amendment application is therefore being brought forward to ensure that

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zoning compliance in accordance with the existing direction of the official plan for agriculture

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related uses. The subject application proposes to re-zone the portion of the list.

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Major cultural to agriculture-leaved-related industrial exception zone to permit the Fire Emile facility as a site specific use, as well as establish the parking requirements.

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All other applicable zoning provisions are complied with.

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Next slide, please.

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A careful analysis concludes that the application is supported by provincial, county, and municipal policy direction.

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It maintains the agricultural designation and protects the agricultural resources of the province, the county and the township,

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while also supporting the viability and long-term sustainability of the agricultural sector.

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The subject application is consistent with the PPS, it conforms to the county and the township's official plan policies,

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and it respects the standards of the zoning bylaw.

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The subject application ultimately represents good planning that's in the best interest of the public.

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And thank you and I'm happy to address any questions that Mayor and members of Council may have.

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Thank you, Carly. First I want to apologize. And my notes said that Amy was going to be doing presentation and had her name on it.

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So, but anyway, some of my apologies.

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That's okay.

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Anyways, if you don't mind just staying there because we can ask questions.

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It's your anybody in the audience who would like to make a comment ask a question or address

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committee with respect to this application.

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Questions maybe directed to or responded to by the applicant their agent or staff, but should

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be addressed through the chair.

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That's me.

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Please remember to complete a submit your delegation form.

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Is there anybody who wishes to ask questions?

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Go on once.

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Anybody want to ask questions?

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Place.

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Three times.

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No public questions.

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I'll go to our council next to the members of our committee.

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Councillor Walker, I'll start at your, you're in this thing.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I was just a couple.

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First of all, I'm looking at the concept plan, and I see the driveway is highlighted

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inside the view zone.

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Is there upgrades to that driveway to be made, and if so, who monitors that change

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with that environment protections zone?

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Through you, Mr. Chair.

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We actually, there is a driveway extension proposed, but we actually did locate it outside of the environmental protection zone to ensure that it would comply with the zoning by law.

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My next question is, I don't see anything on the concept plan again with regards to any talk about water and septic system.

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using the existing that's there or because a flower mill will not take a lot of water and I just don't know, so I'm just asking about water exactly.

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Through you, Mr. Chair, we did submit a hydrological or a hydrological report with the subject application.

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That confirms that the existing well capacity is sufficient for the proposed use, and that there would be no adverse impacts on local groundwater resources,

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or any neighboring models.

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Thank you.

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That's it.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Walker.

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Councillor Duning.

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Thank you.

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I'll be due to the end.

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You're going to get one of the last ones.

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Councillor Walker.

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That's right.

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Councillor McArthur.

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I did that.

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I'm looking over there.

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I think in a way here.

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Councillor McArthur.

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Thank you chair.

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First of all, I don't see any silos or

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green bins in the concept plan.

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It's also just kind of wondering what the scale

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of the operation might be?

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Three, Mr. Chair, be.

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The intent is to submit a site plan application,

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following the zoning by-law amendment,

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if the zoning by-law amendment is approved,

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which would basically detail the specific site designs

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in terms of scale.

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It's very, it's smaller scale.

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It's going to be an operation that's between

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the hours of nine to five typically on an eight-hour schedule there will be a minimum of two

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employees on site at a time max on the four employees and there will be a limited traffic to the

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site so it's a very small-scale operation in terms of what could be on the lands.

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Okay and yeah you answered my second question then you're saying two to four employees is what

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we're thinking right now. Yes. So 19 park in spot should be way more than enough.

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Yes, so their zoning buy law required quite a large amount of parking when you look at it

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I think it was something like 75 spaces with speaking with the landowner

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They just determined that they didn't need that many spaces

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So we've accommodated two parking spaces for trucks

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There should only be one track used on a normal basis, but two spaces just in case they're required as well as a barrier

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free parking space, which would be required, and then the 19 spaces should be able to accommodate

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both employees and visitors in the instance that they're there. But it's not expected

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that this use would have very many visitors associated with it.

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Okay, thank you. Thank you. Councillor Broderick. Any questions?

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Okay. You're worth it. You get the second last question.

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Sure. I'm going to, if I may, I'd like to go to the staff, and I'm going to steal a question

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for you, only because I've been thinking about this too that Paul brought up a good point

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just before the meeting, from theking about. Our work to develop on-farned reverse-fied

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use, is this something that could be considered as part of an on-farned reverse-fied use

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if we were able to get the zoning bylaw and acted and included that? Is this what our text right

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I would show that, I'm asking either of this stuff, go ahead.

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Through the church, the mayor.

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So actually, it is not an on-of-armony for use,

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so it is a identifying artificial plan

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as an air cultural related use.

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So there is a little bit of a difference to it.

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And on-of-armony, besides, it doesn't necessarily

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need to be absolutely related, it's associated with,

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whereas an air cultural use such as this

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does have to relate specifically to the air cultural use

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kind of on the property and to the surrounding area.

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So it would fall under that provision, and that's why the AG industrial zone is being proposed for the property.

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So, and in terms of the official plan policies, it does permit a file on mail specifically through a minor by law, which is currently being considered seen in.

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Right? The reason I'm thinking that it would only because given the property that's available,

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the amount of product that would be produced to run the mill, you're going to have to bring materials in to be processed.

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So this is going to be a processing or processed, driven agricultural use for sure.

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But it would be outside of what would normally be approved.

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So this proposal and has good merits.

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I'm just concerned that if we move forward with our existing ideals

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to bring forward on-farned versus use,

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that this would already be approved.

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So if you're suggesting this is just a little bit of a problem,

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And on farm diversified use, this is an actual agricultural use and needs to be identified as such. Is that really the just of it?

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Through the chair. That's correct. So in terms of the direction policy through the official plan document, it does identify it as being an air culture related use, which is permitted through a site specific amendment, which is the process or kind of going for currently.

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In terms of the new zoning by-law process moving forward, it is possible that it had to

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review it if this type of use we permitted as an as a right use under the air cultural

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zone, specifically not as in on Farmers 5, but as its own air cultural related use in

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that. But at this point time without the implementation of the new Zoning by-law document,

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the Zoning by-law is required.

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Okay. If I may one further ask, and that's just to come back, circle back to Councillor

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walker suggestion. The driveway obviously will have to be upgraded just to be clear to carry

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the amount of traffic of inputs coming in and finish product going out. So certainly the

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driveway will have to be improved. It does appear in the EP on our mapping so we would want

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to make sure that that's associated with good conversation between our staff and your procedure

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to make sure that it is clearly outside of E.P.

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Is that comfortable?

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Everybody's good.

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Thank you.

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There you go.

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Thank you.

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Stand by your thunder, but that's OK.

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No, you're doing a great job.

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I'll use.

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Carly, quick question.

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And I think we'll be dealing with an official application.

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But do we have any concerns?

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And I know it's not a planning issue.

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But to talk about fire and explosion protection for a business like this.

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Are they concerned about that at all or for the dust and stuff like that?

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There are more specific studies that are required again through the site plan application.

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At this time, we haven't submitted like a noise odor-dust type of study.

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I can pass it over to staff if that's okay, Nick.

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Was that identified as a requirement for the site plan application?

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I just can't remember.

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I'll flip my head.

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Yeah, so as in a case with the site plan approval process, we will review in greater detail

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of the specifics of the proposal, and also I know through the building permit process in terms

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of the type of building use that's going in there that will be assessed in terms of fire,

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safety, and a sort of sprinkler systems that are required. So there's kind of two methods

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that we be reviewing it under. Thank you. Having worked on a feedman once upon a day,

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I know what dust can do, so I want to protect them. My next question is to the sand do's.

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I'd like to ask them. I said, make sure, once you get this all done, that you get in touch

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with us so we can have our economic development

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labor, our Kelly and ourselves come and visit your place

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because we love to come and visit.

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OK, so keep that in mind.

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We love coming to see what you're doing.

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So why?

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I'm going to warn you.

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There's going to a lot of people because 124 gets close to a lot

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of times in the winter.

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So you,

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anyways, thank you very much for that.

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That's great.

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And good job.

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This concludes this file.

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In this amendment to file 2026-033 regarding property located 793273 county road 124, we

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think all who attended and provided comments for their interest in this matter.

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All input received with regards to this proposal will be fully considered by the staff and

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the recommendation by Council and their decision with respect to this application.

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The report regarding this proposal would be prepared for Council who will make a decision

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concern this matter at a future meeting.

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At this time, we do have another item to deal with, but I will be turning the chair back over to the mayor because he will be handling this portion of the meeting.

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All right, thank you very much, Deputy Mayor.

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Excellent work, as always.

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Thank you very much for returning the chair.

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Council, we do have the next item on our agenda item number four, which is a report called PB034-2026.

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It's in regards to the ask from this council for the Stainer Settlement area boundary expansion phase one status update.

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We have our staff available to help us answer some questions.

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I believe we have a consultant online.

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There is.

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Hi there.

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Good to see.

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I'm glad you there.

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I knew you were there.

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Is that two people online?

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Oh, there is.

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There's two.

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All right.

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Nice to have you, gentlemen.

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So, Derek.

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Derek Abbott, our chief of this department, Derek and I'm going to put it right over to you

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to bring forward your presentation.

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Great.

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Thank you, Your Worship.

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So this report is as a result of mayoral decision 26-08, so Council at its meeting on May 25,

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2026 earlier this year endorsed the mayoral decision, which has Council to consider a

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to phase approach to the Stainer Settlement Area boundary expansion and a preferred boundary expansion

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area. And as a result of that, Council approved technical studies to commence immediately

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for the preferred boundary and that these technical studies be completed in a later than

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90 days from Council's approval. We have since reached our 90 days and are providing council

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with an update on the work completed two dates and outlining where we are in the process

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as we move forwards towards our statutory public meeting, which is scheduled to be held

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on September 14th. One thing I will emphasize that we are not asking Council to make any

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decisions on the proposed amendment this evening. So the draft official plan amendment that was

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attached to my staff report remains in draft form and will continue to be informed by the

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technical work that's underway, as well as any input we receive from the public agencies,

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these Indigenous communities and Council throughout the consultation process.

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As you will note, on the screen, we do have members of our consulting team with us and one

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that's here in attendance that is available to walk Council through a brief presentation

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on the work that's been completed to date and outlined in the next steps.

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So I would like to introduce, we have Steve Weaver and Patrick Casey, both from GSP group

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And off-camera, but in attendance is Jeff Langelaw from Burnside Engineering, who provide council with that pre-presentation that's on your screen now and give a progress status update and be available for any questions that council may have.

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So further ado, Steve and Patrick, floor is yours.

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Thank you very much, Derek.

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Steve Patrick and Jeff. Thank you for joining us. Who wants to lead this? Is this you, Steve?

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Yes, I'll take the lead here. If you can hear me.

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Yes, go right ahead sir. We got you.

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Perfect. Before you go, I apologize the error on the title slide is mine.

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There's a reason I had council meeting Monday on my mind. Should say Wednesday.

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Of course. So I apologize for that.

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Good to correct the date there. Thanks Patrick.

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Yes, I'll kick things off and then I'll turn it over to Jeff to present some of the

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results of the servicing fees.

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I'll describe next steps. Thank you. The reason for the update tonight is outlined by your director is provided an update on the status of the studies that were directed by council resolution in May and share with you the preliminary findings of those studies.

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And then, as I mentioned, talk about the next steps for the Official Plan Amendment, OPA4, as well as some related county official plan amendment considerations.

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Next slide.

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As mentioned, there were some studies discussed at the meeting on May 25th in terms of the phase one of this process for the Stainer Settlement Area Boundary Expansion, with three key initiatives identified to support that.

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The first is a servicing feasibility study which Jeff and his team are focused on and we'll be the subject of the next few slides.

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The other is the agricultural impact assessment, which is a requirement of the provincial planning statement for a sedimentary boundary expansion to demonstrate that any potential impacts to agricultural land, farm operations and any minimum distance separation requirements

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or MDS requirements for livestock operations have been assessed and addressed and then the

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last is a strategy for engaging with First Nations and Indigenous communities.

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So I'll pause there and I will turn it over to Jeff, who's there with you in person to give

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you an update on the servicing feasibility study.

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Thank you very much.

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Jeff, welcome.

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You got a green light there?

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I do now.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Your worship, members of Council and staff, my pleasure to be here in supporting this

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port program, participating.

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So I will touch on the work that we've done today related to the servicing

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feasibility associated with the expansion of this

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container settlement boundary, primarily focused on water capacity and waste water capacity.

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So currently there's approximately 5,300 people, service and stainer, and looking forward

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the projected needs based on the available land area and assumed land uses that were developed

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in partnership with staff had full build out. We would say an additional 21,000 people within

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the existing settlement boundary and room for another 14,000 in the areas proposed to be added

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through the settlement expansion for a total additional population of just over 35,000 people.

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Combined, that brings the total to 4686 people.

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I need to interrupt you right there.

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Just so everyone understands that is not happening overnight.

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Chris could be upwards of 30 to 40 years before that actually happens.

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So, but the objective here is to look at this study and find the right number that matches the ability of our infrastructure.

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So, that, Jeff, thank you for that clarification and you are on track with that.

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In terms of our study focuses on what we call app build out.

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So, when all the land is developed to the new boundaries that are proposed, what infrastructure

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would be required,

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because, you know, significant pieces of infrastructure need to be built,

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00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,700
and you don't want them to be too small further down the road when you need them, because the infrastructure

464
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,780
does last 15, 75 years, right?

465
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:36,260
So, as the growth catches up, you don't want to have to pull out a sewer that's too small

466
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:39,680
to put a bigger one in, when you should look a little further down ahead.

467
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,300
So, our numbers are focused on that, and line, and then later, I expect it'll be discussion

468
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,760
about the rate of growth and exactly where the various developments will happen in water

469
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,060
order.

470
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,080
But, today, it's about the end story.

471
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:56,760
So, on the water supply and storage side, there's currently four wells in the standard.

472
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000
It can provide approximately 3,240 meters

473
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,500
cube per day of water and storage facilities

474
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,560
on airport road that provides 7,100 cubic meters

475
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,700
of water storage.

476
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,560
Curl andurc construction is a significant new capacity

477
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,940
increase to the water supply.

478
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,740
So there's four new wells going in and 4,000 cubic meters

479
00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:18,980
of storage at the Conduct Park project located

480
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:21,720
on the east side of the township,

481
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,960
approximately eight kilometers from Stainer.

482
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:25,860
But it will convey water to Stainer.

483
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:34,900
And, when we look at the needs in the future, we need an additional supply of 10,825 cubic meters.

484
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,640
We don't quite know where that's coming from yet, but that's how much we think we would need.

485
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,900
And also additional water storage for approximately 8,000 cubic meters.

486
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:45,420
So, next slide.

487
00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:55,710
So, with all that anticipated growth and development, it is anticipated that we would need additional,

488
00:34:55,710 --> 00:35:02,070
and or of size water managed to service those new lands and new people associated with that

489
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:07,530
for the purpose of a paranalysis. We have assumed that the additional water would come from the

490
00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:13,110
vicinity of the Klondike Park road facility but today there hasn't many work to investigate exactly

491
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:18,130
how much more can come from Klondike or areas near Klondike but that's our assumption for the analysis

492
00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:24,610
and as far as additional water storage we're anticipating it's likely to be near the existing water storage

493
00:35:24,610 --> 00:35:29,270
on airport road, and so our modeling of the future water mains is based on those assumptions

494
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:32,710
to see if that is sort of a plausible servicing solution.

495
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:38,670
That's anticipated that would remain with these new lands that can also be a single water

496
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:39,530
pressure zone.

497
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:48,180
On the wastewater side, one of the challenges that the existing system in Stainer was not

498
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:53,740
really designed to handle the lands that are being added to the settlement boundary, so that

499
00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:57,040
is very obviously difficult to convey the waste water that would be generated.

500
00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:05,760
We also expect the SPS-2, which is, I think it's the bottom-ended moat, while it has

501
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,420
currently as in capacity and plan for expansion, the forecasted needs would exceed its capacity.

502
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:19,320
To service the new lands, which are generally clustered in the south and west of the existing

503
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,460
the south and the east of the south of Boundary and north and east of the south of Boundary.

504
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,460
We anticipate when they're all in all developed that we need three pump stations to

505
00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:34,360
service those areas essentially conveying wastewater to the north east corner of the

506
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,640
expanded south of Boundary.

507
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:44,700
We anticipate that we'll essentially be trunk sewers running across the side road.

508
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:49,880
It's side road 21 to the east and then essentially north, along centerline road in Cairo

509
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,040
Road 7, you'll get through the development as that permits, but that's the general flow

510
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,320
of it, and three pump stations along that corridor.

511
00:36:58,530 --> 00:37:02,330
It's illustrated a little bit of a graphic, where we're coming on the fancy graphics for

512
00:37:02,330 --> 00:37:07,590
the reports, but this is the basic diagram of how it would flow, I think, south-west and

513
00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:15,950
south west goes to 6, it goes to 5, blanch the south east, come in, run north on that

514
00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:23,290
to centerline row Cairo 7, to SPS4, which would be conveyor the wastewater to treatment facility,

515
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:26,470
a location of that facility as you had to be determined.

516
00:37:32,660 --> 00:38:01,600
On the wastewater treatment side, currently one wastewater treatment plan located in Stainer with capacity of 2,500 meters cube per day, and the township has made agreements with the SEGA Beach to direct an additional 50,000, sorry, 5,000 meters cube to wastewater to the SEGA Beach, essentially in two steps. The works are already constructed, essentially they can be up to 2,500 up that 5,000, and there would need to be an upgrade to the pumping station to go to the next level.

517
00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:06,480
of 5,000, but the force made some pump stations are already there to do that.

518
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,900
The flow to the current standard planter approximately 70% of its actual capacity in terms

519
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,300
of actual flow over rating.

520
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:22,410
And I noted that it works for a place for SPS2 with the additional lands that are being

521
00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:22,750
added.

522
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:30,090
And the existing lands, the additional treatment needs are 11,545 cubic meters per day.

523
00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:32,330
So that's above the capacity of stator in the existing

524
00:38:32,330 --> 00:38:33,230
recycled agreement.

525
00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:36,090
Obviously, it's a specific amount of waste water.

526
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:39,950
And we would identify the, you would need to do a schedule

527
00:38:39,950 --> 00:38:43,330
CEA to figure out to create an expansion like that

528
00:38:43,330 --> 00:38:44,450
or a new waste water facility.

529
00:38:46,270 --> 00:38:46,490
All right.

530
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:53,110
So essentially, the summary.

531
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:59,110
So we do anticipate that had build-out when every piece of land

532
00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:01,910
is developed to the expanded boundary on within on the current

533
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:07,590
boundaries. It's approximately 41,000 people. To service that, we would need to identify

534
00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:13,270
additional supply of 10,800 meters cubed of water supply, as I noted, the source is not

535
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:18,670
yet. No one for that. And EA's would likely be required, at least under the current regulation,

536
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:25,070
to construct, to get permission to design those facilities. The water storage is a little

537
00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:29,930
more straightforward. Could I even be pre-approved by my PSCHP under the current EA requirements?

538
00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:42,010
The wastewater collection components, the force main sewers and pumping stations can likely be pre-approved from a classier perspective if they're located on development lines or existing municipal corridors.

539
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:44,130
It's a little faster to implement.

540
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:52,070
And then the wastewater treatment, as I noted, we will have to identify the ultimate destination in the matter of treatment, which would require a classier.

541
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:59,670
So that is the highlights of the work done today, and then we're working on the fancy figures

542
00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:03,110
and supporting reports to go with the calculations that have been completed.

543
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:07,170
So I think that I turn that back over to Steve now, and he'll finish up the presentation.

544
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:09,710
And I'll be taking questions at the end.

545
00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:11,630
All right, we'll take questions at the end then.

546
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:12,330
Thank you.

547
00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:13,310
I think that's fine.

548
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:13,650
Okay.

549
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:14,770
We do that in that way.

550
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:15,850
We can keep it rolling.

551
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:16,950
Keep it rolling.

552
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:17,190
All right.

553
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:18,210
Thank you.

554
00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:18,650
All right.

555
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:21,110
if that's good with Council and keep your notes handy.

556
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:23,590
Steve will take it back to you, go ahead.

557
00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:26,530
Thank you, Mayor measures, and thanks Jeff,

558
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:29,330
for covering the servicing summary.

559
00:40:29,630 --> 00:40:31,470
I mentioned earlier in the presentation

560
00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:36,230
that one of the three key initiatives supporting this boundary change

561
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:38,250
is the agricultural impact assessment

562
00:40:38,250 --> 00:40:41,430
has required in accordance with provincial policies.

563
00:40:42,010 --> 00:40:44,530
And in fact, the province has an agricultural impact

564
00:40:44,530 --> 00:40:47,870
assessment guideline that has been followed

565
00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:49,130
in preparing the study.

566
00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:52,830
And the study I'm seeking here on behalf of the study authors

567
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:55,090
is to install the associates.

568
00:40:55,930 --> 00:40:57,290
There are planners and agronomists,

569
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:01,470
so specialized in the areas of agricultural impact

570
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:04,690
and soils review and MDS calculations.

571
00:41:06,270 --> 00:41:10,970
So I've worked closely with Rob through his process of Rob

572
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:13,290
stole of producing his report.

573
00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:16,630
And that draft report is now on the project web page,

574
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:21,430
as well for more information, but just to share the highlights of that, the agricultural

575
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:26,950
impact assessment looked at two primary areas, a primary area, and a secondary area.

576
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:33,270
The primary area is the expansion lands themselves, so those lands are shown in the mapping

577
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:40,630
a complete little port and on the project website, the land to the north east of the existing

578
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:56,650
and the land to the southeast, and then under the provincial guidelines, we're also required to look at potential agricultural impacts within any farmlands within 1.5 kilometer radius of those primary study there area land.

579
00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:08,750
So that has been looked at as well to assess what types of farm operations are in the surrounding area and whether they have any livestock and whether there are any sub-access associated with those livestock operations.

580
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:15,810
And in fact, five agricultural operations have been identified within the proposed expansion

581
00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:17,170
area.

582
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:24,310
So one of the impacts of the expansion was that those operations would come into the boundary.

583
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:29,290
It doesn't necessarily mean that they can't continue with those operations.

584
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:35,370
They couldn't continue with the existing farm operations that they have until, if and when

585
00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:41,830
decide that their land is going to be made available for development with the long-term

586
00:42:41,830 --> 00:42:47,550
purpose of the expansion being to position that land for urban land uses such as residential

587
00:42:47,550 --> 00:42:55,490
housing and other supporting uses. In addition to that there's a number of livestock operations

588
00:42:55,490 --> 00:43:03,970
in the surrounding 1.5 kilometer area, but the information we had at the time of developing the

589
00:43:03,970 --> 00:43:08,870
draft report and developing this presentation and indicated that only two of those in fact

590
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:16,330
of MDS setback arcs that potentially affect the proposed expansion lands. We're still detailing

591
00:43:16,330 --> 00:43:23,810
with the agricultural consultant exactly how much of an impact that has on the proposed

592
00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:28,790
settlement area expansion. Initial information looks like it doesn't have a major impact,

593
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:30,110
but it does have some impact.

594
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:33,770
And then secondly, how we can address those impacts.

595
00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:37,550
There are a few different options of how to deal with that.

596
00:43:38,650 --> 00:43:41,790
That said, there is one of the methods required

597
00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:45,370
under the provincial guidelines to obtain information

598
00:43:45,370 --> 00:43:48,910
about these farms is to consult directly with the farmers.

599
00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:53,130
And that I would reach occurred early on in the process

600
00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:56,350
as we've been working on this since late May.

601
00:43:56,350 --> 00:44:03,730
And we've just been receiving, as recently as today, some additional information about existing livestock operations.

602
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:09,830
So there will be some updates to the agricultural impact assessment draft report that's available.

603
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:18,810
And ultimately that report will be finalized once we have all the information from the applicable study area and the farms that could be affected.

604
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:21,090
And next slide.

605
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:28,010
In terms of first nations and indigenous consultation, this is outlined in the staff report.

606
00:44:29,130 --> 00:44:36,130
I notice has been sent out to the contacts and we confirm those contacts with the county of Simcoe as well,

607
00:44:36,910 --> 00:44:38,710
regarding the proposed official plan amendment.

608
00:44:39,550 --> 00:44:47,350
So far we haven't received any responses, but there is some time here for indigenous groups to review the information and respond.

609
00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:50,270
and identify whether they have any interest in these matters.

610
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:56,770
And then, once we do have, if we do get some response from any of the indigenous communities.

611
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,360
The engagement process with those indigenous communities based on their responses and their areas of interest.

612
00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:19,140
And just to note here, this is one part of a multi-part process in terms of land going from agricultural to urban to developed land.

613
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,480
And that, as the mayor outlined, is a long-term process.

614
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:47,780
So along the way, there are many other opportunities for not only First Nations and Indigenous communities but the public at large to participate in that process including through further steps in the secondary planning process as well as as individual development applications are proposed and come forward for those lands over the fullness of time and next slide.

615
00:45:47,780 --> 00:46:06,760
So, just shifting gears here on our next steps, the draft official plan amendment, as mentioned, has been posted online and circulated to the county and other agencies for review and comment and a statutory public meeting under the Planning Act.

616
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:15,780
Asmen's scheduled for Monday, September 14th, the notice of that meeting has gone out with all the particulars and just to be more specific about that.

617
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,380
The public meeting on September 14th is specifically for township official plan number four.

618
00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:36,000
And next slide just summarizes that in addition to the township official plan amendment because settlement area boundaries, including those for Stainer are set out in the county official plan as well.

619
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:45,220
There is an amendment required to the county official plan, also to note that the county is the approval authority for the Township's Official Plan Amendment.

620
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:54,540
So adoption of the Official Plan Amendment by the Township would be followed by forwarding that to the county for their review.

621
00:46:55,780 --> 00:47:05,980
I got a bit ahead of myself there, but with the county official plan amendment, they are required under the Planning Act to have their own public meeting for the Official Plan Amendment.

622
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,680
And if you go to the next slide,

623
00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:14,170
there's some process considerations with that.

624
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:18,530
The Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing at the provincial level is the approval authority

625
00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:21,570
for an amendment to the county official plan.

626
00:47:23,050 --> 00:47:30,630
And under the Planning Act, the county must give the ministry at least 90 days of review time

627
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:35,410
with the official plan amendment before giving notice of its public meeting.

628
00:47:35,410 --> 00:47:42,290
So that 90 day period has started, it was the county submitted their draft official

629
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:47,310
plan amendment to the province on July 17th, which means they cannot give notice of their

630
00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:49,830
public meeting until October 15th.

631
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:57,150
So the public meeting that the county will hold will be sometime after October 15th.

632
00:47:57,150 --> 00:48:06,750
and next slide. The Planning Act does require that the County Public Meeting be held no

633
00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:12,090
earlier than Wednesday, November 4th, based on that timing and the Provincial Review of

634
00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:18,310
Requirements. After the County Hold, its Public Meeting, they can then adopt a related county

635
00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:24,970
official PIMM amendment at any time thereafter and forward that to the province for their

636
00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:28,570
consideration of approval and next slide.

637
00:48:29,230 --> 00:48:34,350
The approval of the county official plan is then in turn subject to the Ministry of

638
00:48:34,350 --> 00:48:43,390
approval process and the Ministry may approve reviews or approve with modifications, the county

639
00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:50,690
official plan amendment and they post their review period and decision on the environmental

640
00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:53,170
bill rights on the Ontario Registry.

641
00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:56,070
and will ultimately issue a written decision.

642
00:48:57,010 --> 00:49:01,910
Following that, there is an appeal period for the county of OPA, which it runs for 20 days,

643
00:49:03,490 --> 00:49:07,970
but the appeals are very limited because it's a provincial decision.

644
00:49:10,090 --> 00:49:16,330
The 20-day appeal periods physically applies to the county's decision with respect to the township of OPA,

645
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:22,170
and if there are no appeals, the township of OPA comes into effect on

646
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:27,110
the last, after the last day of profiling of the appeals.

647
00:49:27,490 --> 00:49:33,010
If there are appeals, then there was a refer to the Ontario Land Tribunal to be dealt with there.

648
00:49:35,060 --> 00:49:40,920
So that covers the summary of the work completed to date, as well as the next steps.

649
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,340
And Patrick, Jeff and I are available for questions at this time.

650
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Thank you.

651
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:49,080
All right, thank you very much.

652
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,360
And I would suggest the staff perhaps are also available for questions too.

653
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,640
So thank you.

654
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,800
All right, members of Council.

655
00:49:55,420 --> 00:49:57,880
Jim, any questions to the staff on the work so far?

656
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,460
Paul, you'd like to start?

657
00:49:59,660 --> 00:50:00,340
OK, go right ahead.

658
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Sure, thank you.

659
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,920
Quick question, gentlemen.

660
00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:03,280
I'm about to.

661
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,360
It says two operations in this second area

662
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,300
were affecting the proposed expansion

663
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,420
and both of those were livestock operations.

664
00:50:12,220 --> 00:50:13,940
Is that the only type of operation

665
00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:15,300
we're concerned with?

666
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,320
Or do we concern with intensive cash crop operations?

667
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:28,880
I'm visualizing all the livestock operations in the area, but cash crop is definitely a

668
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,120
bigger bite right now.

669
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Steve or Patrick, do you want to respond to that question, Mr. Good question?

670
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:49,420
The livestock operations have definitely more of a direct impact because there's specific

671
00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:55,680
provincial formulae for calculating required setback distances if you're

672
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,760
re-designating land from agriculture to other uses and that setback distances

673
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:06,860
based on the type of land use. So it's a larger setback for urban land uses.

674
00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:13,860
So in this case, the proposed change of some land from agricultural to urban

675
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:17,800
triggers the need to do these minimum distance separation calculations.

676
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:26,320
And there are a couple of operations that have set back distances that overlap with the area that's proposed to be designated as urban.

677
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:43,800
So, when we say impact, we mean that either the urban boundary would have to be drawn to avoid those areas or there will need to be some special justification or policy treatment in the official planet amendment to specifically ensure that

678
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:49,440
setbacks are maintained from those livestock operations or other measures they're taken so that

679
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,380
we don't have incompatible land uses with the odors and other aspects of livestock

680
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,360
housing specifically.

681
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:04,800
But you're right on point that there are other types of agricultural impacts as well associated with urban expansion.

682
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,860
The obvious one is that land will eventually be taken out of farm production.

683
00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:27,140
Again, that is more up to the landowner once the official plan amendment is in place and there are other steps that need to be completed, including the infrastructure being developed planning applications that need to be filed and the details of the development need to come forward, much of which is

684
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:40,820
In terms of timing for development. So in the interim in the short term, they're able to continue operating as they do today. There's no direct immediate impact to an existing farm operation.

685
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:54,460
And then the other types of impacts that are looked at in the agricultural impact assessment report are things like, well, if some of the lands starts to develop what would be the impacts to say farm equipment that moves around the area on the existing roads.

686
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,720
or noise and dust and other normal farm operations that you see out on the landscape.

687
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:08,380
That's where there are more detailed studies that need to be done as the land developed.

688
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,400
So, just like when you see applications like the one you heard earlier tonight,

689
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:16,900
there are certain technical studies that come forward in support of those applications

690
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:19,100
and are required as part of a complete application.

691
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,240
and there's traffic studies, there's noise and dust,

692
00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:23,680
and I need to add ability studies,

693
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:26,600
and then the experts in those types of fields

694
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,080
recommend measures that need to be taken to ensure

695
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,380
that we don't set up a situation where development

696
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:35,620
is happening in an area where it's going to generate

697
00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:37,920
a lot of complaints about normal farm operations

698
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:39,260
in the vicinity.

699
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,360
There are certain mechanisms that are then used,

700
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,800
like phasing of the development or warning clauses

701
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,500
in purchase and sale agreements to advise purchasers of the farm operations in the area

702
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,500
and the impacts from that that they should expect.

703
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,400
But the details of those measures aren't being established at this stage, so that those

704
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,500
happen later when the land is actually being proposed for development.

705
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:09,060
So lots of consider there, but hopefully that gets into some of the specifics as to the

706
00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:13,360
types of impacts that the agricultural impact assessment report is looking at.

707
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,200
Thank you.

708
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,480
You all good? Thank you. Other members of Council.

709
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,480
Do you have any questions? Mr. MacArthur? I see you go ahead.

710
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:24,820
Yeah, this is probably for Mr. Jeff Langlock.

711
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:31,160
Just wondering, the airport road water main was just redone there a few years ago.

712
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:37,500
Is there any idea whether it's size to help?

713
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:44,180
Or size accordingly for this expansion or if there would be another redo 30, 40 years down there.

714
00:54:44,180 --> 00:54:44,920
So,

715
00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:56,200
we did look at that specifically, we run the model with these additional, you know, assuming

716
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,640
that people were all present in heating water, so it does not look like that may

717
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:05,680
need to be operated in terms of diameter capacity based on our initial analysis, and similarly

718
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:12,520
the water main KBR to down, also looks like it would be adequate for the projected growth, based

719
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,040
on the assumptions that we know right now, so in both cases they're not going to be obsolete

720
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:24,800
So probably down the road, either upgrade those

721
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,020
or we'll be looking for a third water source probably in the area.

722
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,900
Yeah, so there's two sort of glass line steel tanks

723
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:36,140
out on the airport facility.

724
00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:39,420
And I think there are approximately 7,000 cubic meters.

725
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,860
And we need 1,000, so it's essentially, in my mind,

726
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:45,780
who would simply twin that facility.

727
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,420
Right, so there would be four tanks there using the same water.

728
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:57,660
It's really about the volume of water stored for firefighting, that's the biggest thing to address with that storage, and the main is big enough to convey the flows through.

729
00:55:57,860 --> 00:56:03,080
The extra size, because the flow rate doesn't go up that much from what we assume, it's just the duration is longer.

730
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:10,680
So, anyways, it looks good in terms of, you know, they'll be there for their normal life and not replaced.

731
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,780
We do envision there would be water-made loot, essentially across 20,

732
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:20,080
several 21, kind of creating that loop along the side of any side,

733
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:21,760
to help distribute water sources.

734
00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:25,950
Thank you very much, Councillor McArthur.

735
00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:26,930
Those are good questions.

736
00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:30,550
If I can just do a little follow-up on that point before I go to Councilor Dineen,

737
00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:35,910
when we do calculations, perhaps even Dan might be able to assist.

738
00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:40,070
We do calculations about fire, you know, fire, you know, service.

739
00:56:40,990 --> 00:56:44,230
We also take in the capacity of the actual pipes.

740
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:52,230
Like the project at Councillor MacArthur brought up was a significant investment by this community

741
00:56:52,230 --> 00:57:00,270
to improve the pipe between the urban center of Stainer and our reservoirs down on local airport

742
00:57:00,270 --> 00:57:01,370
road county 42.

743
00:57:02,290 --> 00:57:07,830
But the actual size of the pipe increased our capacity for storage because the pipe itself

744
00:57:07,830 --> 00:57:09,290
is now much larger.

745
00:57:09,290 --> 00:57:19,170
So, I think that we need to understand that while pumping capacity is actually the primary thing when you're dealing with a major fire pumping capacity,

746
00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:25,870
but the actual volume of water in the system is sitting in reserves because it's in the pipes.

747
00:57:26,430 --> 00:57:31,310
There's a lot of pipes that are actually acting as reservoirs. Is that right? Is that a good philosophy?

748
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:35,770
I would like to be partially accurate.

749
00:57:36,110 --> 00:57:38,190
Thank you.

750
00:58:26,060 --> 00:58:26,300
Yes.

751
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:43,940
Absolutely.

752
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,260
The storage tanks are everything for sure.

753
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,460
And so we're very blessed in the standard community with the two that we have.

754
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Our event leisure set recently improved and then the new pipe is also a big improvement to connect us.

755
00:58:58,420 --> 00:59:05,040
And then the project at KPR at is a very significant water reservoir that's being built.

756
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:10,060
along with the actual pipe itself there that connects perhaps eight kilometers of pipe.

757
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,760
So I think that there's a good argument to be said that we will have supply,

758
00:59:17,020 --> 00:59:18,660
given all the factors that are available,

759
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:26,960
and to continue the calculations as we slowly build out to this population number that we're looking at.

760
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:30,940
I mean, there's no sense in acknowledging that we're going to do that tomorrow.

761
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:38,280
It's a matter of make plans to build those pipes as we go and so I think that's that's part of it

762
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,080
And working with a development community to help pay for these things is important part of it.

763
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:43,700
So thank you.

764
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:45,280
Dan, did you have anything you want to add on that?

765
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:46,020
Since I brought it up.

766
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,060
Okay, thank you very much.

767
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,200
I'm going to go to the question by Councillor Denino.

768
00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:49,940
Thank you.

769
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:52,960
Probably don't even have to ask now.

770
00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:53,380
Oh well.

771
00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:56,980
But so through your worship to Jeff.

772
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Today's supply storage, that we're supposed to have for the amount of people that are using it.

773
01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:19,260
Sorry, for every, for every, for every water source, we're required to keep two days worth of storage.

774
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:26,560
So, that issue has come up in the past with the topic, principally in relation to supply

775
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,140
that's prepared from the town of Collinwood Pipeline, it was kind of where that two-day

776
01:00:30,140 --> 01:00:30,740
storage.

777
01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:38,380
You know, guideline comes from generally that wouldn't be the real way to apply for a system that

778
01:00:38,380 --> 01:00:39,280
has its own storage.

779
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:44,360
Like that was more through the nature of the agreement through Collinwood Tech than our

780
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,100
are typical approach to water storage.

781
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,220
It's much more cohesion derived from the anticipated population

782
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,060
for a big that is.

783
01:00:53,540 --> 01:00:55,660
Population says it's this big a fire flow.

784
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,260
You'd be able to apply it for this long.

785
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,060
And that goes into storage.

786
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,840
That's the majority of what's in there.

787
01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:04,320
There is a emergency storage and equalization storage.

788
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,100
We won't get into that.

789
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:06,980
We need more.

790
01:01:08,180 --> 01:01:10,020
And the grid news is that that pipeline

791
01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:11,640
is likely going to be able to convey it.

792
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,120
particularly, we put a sort of a new boundary man around to help move it around the area.

793
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,940
And it doesn't matter where the storage is located.

794
01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:26,060
To some extent, it does, as I noted, when it's a fire loss of pressure, through the pipe

795
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:28,200
is a function of length and diameter.

796
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:33,280
So, but we've run it through the model that we have at the township water system, with the assumptions

797
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:39,760
we've said of more water coming from KBR and more stored at airport road and the forecast

798
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,940
that flows, viral flows, available, viral flow, and pressure, looks acceptable.

799
01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:48,420
Yeah, so it's just the amount of storage is just determined by the users.

800
01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:52,240
And of course all the new developments have new pipes which help convey the water through

801
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,880
and that will be sized to more detail.

802
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:54,860
They all come forward.

803
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,320
Okay, thank you.

804
01:01:58,460 --> 01:01:59,220
Yeah, thank you.

805
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:07,380
We're just adding, I think, to Councillor Dunne's point, to the connection of the two

806
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,060
systems,

807
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:19,060
one system, but the connection of KPR and the airport road, the connection of that and trying to

808
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:27,120
loop them together, give you better flow with the storage. That's more critical than having

809
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:33,400
the two day storage that was assumed as part of the if there was a connection to

810
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:43,240
the

811
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:50,240
Just clarification to our clerk to understand that we've got a meeting posted for September 14th.

812
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,140
That's part of our regular meeting.

813
01:02:54,140 --> 01:02:59,960
I thought we would be doing this under a planning meeting, but we're doing this under a regular council meeting.

814
01:03:00,740 --> 01:03:03,820
Through your worship to the deputy mayor, this is an important matter.

815
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:05,220
It's a strong mayor decision.

816
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,040
So we are putting it for front at our regular meeting in September.

817
01:03:09,740 --> 01:03:12,140
We are getting low on council meetings before the next term.

818
01:03:12,140 --> 01:03:17,180
we need to move forward. So staff know that that's coming on as a public meeting during the regular meeting.

819
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,540
It's always on the agenda, you see it. We just normally don't have any items,

820
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,400
but this is a priority for the municipality. So then a question you just brought up.

821
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:31,220
I know the mayor loses his strong mayor powers. Is it a continuation of his strong mayor powers

822
01:03:31,220 --> 01:03:36,760
to continue this application? Through your worship to the deputy mayor, we still have to

823
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,660
the guidelines under the Planning Act and we still have to hold a public meeting and we still

824
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:44,920
had to follow the statutory notice period for that.

825
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,020
Thank you.

826
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:47,820
Thank you.

827
01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:48,740
Very good.

828
01:03:49,180 --> 01:03:50,040
Other other questions?

829
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,360
Mr. Broderick?

830
01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:52,140
Mr. McArthur?

831
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,080
Mr. Walker?

832
01:03:53,980 --> 01:03:54,100
All right.

833
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,740
I would have a couple if I can.

834
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,060
And since you're here, Jeff, I appreciate we're going to go right back to water again.

835
01:04:02,060 --> 01:04:08,740
In your notes, in your presentation, to talk about the NMCEA would be required for an alternate

836
01:04:08,740 --> 01:04:09,660
water source.

837
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:18,080
Looking at the investment that the township's already made in the KPR site, there were four

838
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:25,520
wells that were investigated on that site and identified as all four of them are identified

839
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:26,760
as individual sources.

840
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:33,980
As I understand the project right now, we are going to be accessing two of those wells of the four.

841
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,380
So is that a correct statement?

842
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,360
We're using two of the four in the project that we're building right this minute.

843
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,680
My recollection is they're all being built.

844
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,480
They're certainly all permanent to be constructive.

845
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:47,520
Yes.

846
01:04:48,500 --> 01:04:54,760
In the approval for the Minister of Environment, they may not be needed on day one in terms of you don't need to turn them all on.

847
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,940
because it's just more capacity than you need in the very near future.

848
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,040
That's where I think that stands, I could confirm that.

849
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,900
Yeah. As again, as I understand it, we're going to be building all the pump.

850
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:14,260
They're all of the wells, but we're not going to be turning to the pumps,

851
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:20,200
or KPR 3 and 4 until the time that we have that expansion requirement.

852
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:28,380
So, like we'll have the ability to do it, but it's a matter of a little future investment that will be needed to make that happen.

853
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Yeah, I would need my hunches. Again, they would probably use them.

854
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:42,220
I expect they will rotate through all of them, right? In terms of trying to make sure they're all ready to go if they're needed as opposed to just using two and leaving two to sit.

855
01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:46,100
It probably kind of want to exercise them essentially right and rotate through.

856
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:46,620
Yeah.

857
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:48,040
I could check with the construction team.

858
01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:49,120
Let's check what I've asked.

859
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,660
He's watching that project.

860
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,460
He might be there if it goes so that I am.

861
01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:54,420
Yeah.

862
01:05:54,420 --> 01:05:54,460
Yeah.

863
01:05:54,460 --> 01:05:55,260
I think your worship.

864
01:05:56,900 --> 01:06:01,860
That's a Jeff Nail that the all four are going to be put in production.

865
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,280
I call it.

866
01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:11,060
The volume that it's going to produce isn't going to be needed right away until more build out is done.

867
01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:18,200
But Jeff's correct, there's going to be a rotation between the four on an as-needed basis

868
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:26,560
with lots of built-in redundancy. If one of those five ten years from now needs to be worked on,

869
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,740
we have three other ones there to take its place.

870
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,840
There'll all be producing water on a rotational basis on an as-needed basis,

871
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:51,520
The volume or the frequency, I guess, will increase as it has needed as building hopefully ramps up here in the next year or so.

872
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:59,780
Yeah, certainly, again, this goes back to the design of this whole project is that it will gradually move forward.

873
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:02,420
I mean, we're going to have to get the infrastructure in place.

874
01:07:02,420 --> 01:07:10,230
And then the planning and building department will be very busy receiving applications to build more homes.

875
01:07:10,710 --> 01:07:18,070
And as those more homes come online, and as more people move to our community, there will be more demand on the water system.

876
01:07:18,790 --> 01:07:25,130
So I think it's very wise of how we're spending this money to build this system, to have the four wells available.

877
01:07:26,270 --> 01:07:27,090
I recall talking.

878
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:46,380
Jeff, it wasn't you. It was another one about how the capacity volume that we would need, even to reach the 4,000 units in that neighborhood, could be achieved with two wells, and that was the conversation we had that we could achieve it.

879
01:07:46,820 --> 01:07:56,480
But you're right. That would put huge demand on those two wells all the time. So, by cycling through, Dan, as you're suggesting, that's a little news to me, but I'm happy to hear it.

880
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:06,000
because it does demonstrate that we have the capacity to have redundant systems, as well as to keep those other wells functioning well correctly.

881
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:17,580
Perhaps. So anyway, thank you very much for that. So that MCEA with that, is that a step that we would have to engage to as part of this process.

882
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:23,460
If we can have to do that and go through that process as well, even though we have approved water source.

883
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:28,180
So the Cape Air Facility, like I said in early step, that's all been completed in the past.

884
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,560
Right. I can't remember how many years ago now, but seven years ago or something like that?

885
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:33,080
Yeah.

886
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,720
That facility was approved under the year. It was an addendum to the standard year.

887
01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:51,540
And so now, it's through the future facilities, such as a reservoir or a new, well, at a new site or a new wastewater all would have requirements to satisfy the requirements of the missile class EA.

888
01:08:51,540 --> 01:08:57,060
There are proposed changes to that that are actually anticipated in the new year.

889
01:08:57,340 --> 01:08:57,400
Okay.

890
01:08:57,540 --> 01:09:00,080
Under the current framework, they would require it.

891
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,480
It's anticipated that if it rolls out, like we think it's going to roll out.

892
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:08,200
Some of them may be pre-approved as we move forward, and it should get easier out of her.

893
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,100
Okay.

894
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:14,560
All I can ask there is to make sure you keep Council informed of that, but this is who's

895
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:14,800
long.

896
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:15,560
So that's great.

897
01:09:16,020 --> 01:09:17,020
Can I ask another question?

898
01:09:17,140 --> 01:09:17,900
I'm looking for other members.

899
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,600
I have another question then.

900
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,960
going to switch over to the wastewater treatment plant agreement, we have a terrific agreement with

901
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,920
our partners in the town of Osaga Beach.

902
01:09:28,780 --> 01:09:34,160
You referred to the pumping station, is that SCS-2, is that what that is?

903
01:09:34,340 --> 01:09:36,900
The one that's probably pumping public works building?

904
01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:38,240
That's okay.

905
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:43,400
So SCS-2, it does have the capacity to meet the requirements that we have currently

906
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,240
build in the current settlement area.

907
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:54,800
Upgrade to that facility because of the inputs that could come there, is that been sort of

908
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,000
fought out as far as how extensive that could be?

909
01:09:59,260 --> 01:10:07,820
Are we thinking of another 30 foot dig into that soil or is that an above ground mid-ground

910
01:10:07,820 --> 01:10:08,700
sort of project?

911
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:16,760
So I do believe there'll be either significant upgrades to the SPS2 or an alternate, like

912
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,980
a new replacement, that's larger, required in the future.

913
01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:25,540
The one that is constructed is ready to deal with the first half of the number that's

914
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:30,480
supposed to go to a second, and the pipes are ready for the full agreement.

915
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,460
They would need to be an upgrade to the pumpings.

916
01:10:33,820 --> 01:10:37,980
Within the existing building, essentially, replacing pumps to go to the second stage.

917
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:41,880
So it's a relatively modest upgrade to get to the agreement that was anticipated.

918
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,600
Go on beyond that.

919
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,800
we haven't really looked into that yet,

920
01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:47,560
whether there is room to cram more,

921
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,860
or with where the other development is,

922
01:10:49,860 --> 01:10:52,100
which is actually downhill from where that is.

923
01:10:52,620 --> 01:10:53,400
It's hard to be cram.

924
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:56,760
So there's a lot of gravity there that helps it.

925
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,100
It might be a blend of the two,

926
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,680
but we'll sort that out in the future.

927
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:01,840
But it will be more popping capacity for certain.

928
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,800
I'm kind of thinking of whether we need to sort of take another look

929
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,760
at the site there, do we need?

930
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:13,060
Like, what we need more real estate around that current building

931
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:18,340
to build out or are we comfortable in the size of the building we have right now there to

932
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:24,440
do the works internally. I'm just seeking a construction project here to add on to that

933
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:28,760
wastewater treatment, volume that we're going to need when we make this settlement boundary

934
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:36,020
expansion. Are we going to need more space there and this is another large project that

935
01:11:36,020 --> 01:11:44,100
be facing. Dan, maybe that's for you. Jeff may be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but

936
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:49,600
as he pointed out, that the force means going to a Sega Beatrice sized appropriately.

937
01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:52,540
I think there is space in

938
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,360
the pump house that's out of the pump house. It's the wet well,

939
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:07,860
the sewage goes into. I think that's the general theme of that is if we need a little bit

940
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:13,140
room, we don't know all that here. But I think the building itself, I think you just add either

941
01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:19,540
larger pump or more pumps to it with an additional storage area. I think what I understood

942
01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:20,960
it to be constructively.

943
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,560
I think for the original service area, I think there was hope that it would be expanded at that

944
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:32,780
site, but because the new area is essentially downhill, it's like, can you get it back into the existing

945
01:12:32,780 --> 01:12:37,780
one without a being deeper? We haven't quite got the detail done on that yet. So it's presented

946
01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:42,820
conservatively, and that we need to, you know, it will work if you build a new one. Can we

947
01:12:42,820 --> 01:12:47,380
optimize it and leverage or borrow what's there?

948
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,880
It's ready to pump 25, easily upgraded to 5,000.

949
01:12:56,020 --> 01:13:00,520
But those ultimate numbers are well beyond that, right? So why do you expect your

950
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,020
of the organization, eventually went all that

951
01:13:03,020 --> 01:13:03,660
group materialized.

952
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,540
Exciting stuff, I know.

953
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,100
It did.

954
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,360
Again, I try to think long-term, as far as into the future,

955
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,600
what kind of expenses the committee could be facing,

956
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,960
what we're looking at.

957
01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:18,260
So I look at it.

958
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,060
We have a really good investment in this particular SCS-2,

959
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,820
RSPS-2, and the fact that we have real estate around it,

960
01:13:25,820 --> 01:13:27,480
if we had to do an extra wet well,

961
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:29,800
we already have space to do that.

962
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:34,180
we can incorporate that into that site without too much issue.

963
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,060
And it can be engineered and it can be built

964
01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:42,580
given the resources that we have available to us.

965
01:13:43,260 --> 01:13:44,940
All right, so that's good for that.

966
01:13:44,980 --> 01:13:48,100
And I think that that agreement, Mr. Ferguson and I

967
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,480
had a talk about that agreement some months ago,

968
01:13:50,660 --> 01:13:55,320
about the fact that it'll be many years until we reach that point,

969
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:56,980
where we have to renegotiate that agreement.

970
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,120
The good news is that the pipe that connects us

971
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,200
from Stainer to the Vasagovic wastewater

972
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,880
to the plant will handle the capacity.

973
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,760
So we don't have to open up those pipes again,

974
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:07,340
which is great.

975
01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:09,640
So we're really in a good spot there.

976
01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:12,640
So I'll look to my council if there's other questions.

977
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:13,780
No further?

978
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:15,020
All right.

979
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,880
Can I just ask a question and a staff regarding the first

980
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,780
nations and indigenous consultations?

981
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:26,040
We just confirm, did we receive any responses

982
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:34,100
Steve or Patrick, did we receive any responses on that or are we still going to engage consultations

983
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:37,700
with them to seek their inputs on this?

984
01:14:38,900 --> 01:14:46,340
As of our last discussions with your staff, there haven't been any responses yet, but

985
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:53,640
there is some time here between now and the September 14th meeting, so we'll continue monitoring

986
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,080
and following up. Okay, I think we've got an answer on.

987
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,420
We haven't received anything, but they have been emailed as well as mailed regular mail, the notice, but we haven't received anything yet.

988
01:15:09,860 --> 01:15:15,320
Okay, so we're still engaging in making sure that we have those consultations. That's good. All right, that's great.

989
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:21,660
And I guess the last thing is back to the county issue, which Derek, this might be for you, if I can.

990
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:28,820
Moving this whole project as a recommendation from this council, as we go to a full council meeting and get the public input.

991
01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:35,180
And we get that report, and we take OP A4, and we move it over to the county, and then the

992
01:15:35,180 --> 01:15:38,860
province of Ontario is removing the county authority to make these type of decisions anyway.

993
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:49,340
So are we facing a roadblock, do you think, or are we going to be looking at changes to the

994
01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:56,940
county system given their timeline of when they give up the authority to make those decisions

995
01:15:56,940 --> 01:16:00,980
on planning matters. Derek, what do you think?

996
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,260
Through your worship, it's a great question.

997
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,960
And one I've been in connection with Nathan Westendorf there.

998
01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:16,860
He and as well as other staff have informed me that the county will still have their decision

999
01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:19,200
making authority, come November 4th.

1000
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,840
I think it's just those are those three municipalities in his fill Bradford and Newtek

1001
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,920
that will operate kind of as a single tier municipality and not require county as approval

1002
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:34,160
authority. So following the election and on that date that the province did set out county,

1003
01:16:34,380 --> 01:16:37,880
the county of Simcoe is still our approval authority for planning act decisions.

1004
01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:42,240
What remains in question is what county council will look like?

1005
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,360
Come November 4th. I know the numbers are dwindling and when they will actually

1006
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:52,120
have their next county council meeting, but we're in constant communication with the county

1007
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:59,660
even Nathan and his team to sort this out and just want to point out that in no way does our

1008
01:16:59,660 --> 01:17:05,280
decision affect their decision, like they will still formulate their own planning rationale,

1009
01:17:06,180 --> 01:17:09,800
but it doesn't necessarily mean that the county is going to automatically approve it,

1010
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,800
but they will still have to go through their approval process to amend their county official plan.

1011
01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:19,380
All right. Thank you for sharing that with everyone here. Appreciate that.

1012
01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:22,040
One more time, is there any further questions?

1013
01:17:22,580 --> 01:17:24,440
So we take the mic a lot here.

1014
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,860
Okay, you're all good?

1015
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,940
Well, listen, thank you very much staff.

1016
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,460
Thank you very much to our consultants.

1017
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,120
Thank you to Burnside, Jeff, to have you guys here.

1018
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,480
This is certainly a positive step forward to to get us to this point.

1019
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,840
Madam Clerk, the advertisements are out to advise the public about a public meeting

1020
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,520
where we hope to have anybody who's interested in this particular issue.

1021
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:57,580
to come forward for the 14th, we will certainly endeavor to make that meeting agenda not as heavy.

1022
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,800
Madam Clerk, hint hint.

1023
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,900
Well, it's just, it's a tough one because we have so many other departments we have to deal with at the same time.

1024
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:09,540
It's just, it's going to be a big decision and an opportunity.

1025
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,360
Thank you very much for that. Okay.

1026
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,100
So if there's nothing further, we do have a small recommendation here, which is just to receive this.

1027
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:20,920
So again, I want to thank our staff and our consultants and Burnside Engineering, etc.

1028
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:23,660
And thank you, Council, for all these terrific questions.

1029
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,400
Recommendation says, be it resolved that Council of the Township will clear, be hereby.

1030
01:18:27,580 --> 01:18:30,400
Receive report, PB034-2026.

1031
01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:36,260
This is the Stainer Settlement Area Boundary Expansion Phase 1 Status Update, stated August 26,

1032
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:41,300
2026 for Information, moved by the Deputy Mayor of Seconded by Mr. Walker.

1033
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:42,400
Thank you very much, sir.

1034
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:44,580
Any questions on that motion?

1035
01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:49,900
Thank you very much.

1036
01:18:50,140 --> 01:18:50,660
All right, Council.

1037
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,240
This is a special meeting, but we do have the

1038
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,740
Confermetory by law for this meeting as we do.

1039
01:18:56,340 --> 01:18:59,760
It says we have resolved that by law 2559,

1040
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,740
being a by law to confirm the proceedings of the August 26-26

1041
01:19:03,740 --> 01:19:04,660
Council meeting.

1042
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,080
If you presented and read the first second at the time of

1043
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,340
Finally passed the 26th day of August 26,

1044
01:19:09,540 --> 01:19:10,100
Councilor Denise.

1045
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,660
Thank you very much.

1046
01:19:11,660 --> 01:19:16,860
Councillor McArthur. Thank you. And the bylaws have been read. Any questions? Seeing none

1047
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:22,400
all in favor? Bylaw Carey's. Thank you. Council we're out there motion to adjourn for

1048
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:28,480
our special meeting. We're going to call it 49 by the time we get there. 649. Maybe we should

1049
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:33,760
all by a ticket. Councillor Broderick. Deputy Mayor, would you like to move that motion

1050
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,640
to adjourn? All those in favor. Thank you very much. Very good folks. Thank you very much

1051
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:40,840
for joining us.