1 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:29,450 All right, call the meeting to order. Start with us, move to the flag. 2 00:00:29,450 --> 00:00:35,010 The graduations to the flag of the United States of America 3 00:00:35,010 --> 00:00:39,250 is the Republic of Roots of Stans, one nation under God, 4 00:00:39,910 --> 00:00:42,510 indivisible of liberty and justice for our 5 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:47,740 copy of the minutes. 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,540 Here, here, here, here, here, here. 7 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 This is from this to the last one, right? 8 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Yeah. 9 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,300 And a little bit of detail. 10 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Yeah. 11 00:01:06,940 --> 00:01:11,320 I'd like to go ahead and roll over. 12 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:13,080 Yeah, I see that. 13 00:01:14,540 --> 00:01:14,960 Okay. 14 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,420 I think it is. 15 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:18,100 So that's something that's weird. 16 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:23,030 1, 9, 17 00:01:41,890 --> 00:01:45,850 2, 3, 4, 5, 4. 18 00:01:45,850 --> 00:01:46,550 We'll get a motion. 19 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:49,270 Okay, so, yeah, I'm sorry. 20 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:51,950 So, what a favorite. 21 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:53,190 I like that. 22 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Old business, 23 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:52,050 public hearing was last month. 24 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:56,130 Since 25 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,100 the last time, we were here, we went to the plant for it. 26 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:19,400 and the 24 decided to table it to see what the CBA said, which is kind of why I don't want to have to go here with you guys. 27 00:03:20,180 --> 00:03:33,940 And so they, they've made it, whether to move forward, whether can do a conditional subject too, but Scott said no worries, but we answer. 28 00:03:33,940 --> 00:03:45,140 So since we were here, I have a little bit more information that I had when I presented 29 00:03:45,140 --> 00:03:46,480 the last time. 30 00:03:48,380 --> 00:04:00,000 We did a straight plan here on up, which shows parking and can you have parking, what 31 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,560 I have to be more specific about what the sign is going to look like. 32 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:21,880 And so I have end based on comments, 33 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:31,400 the Alma has decided to make some revision on the 34 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,880 hours for the business, making it more seasonal. 35 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,620 So in the winter it's going to close earlier so it's not going to have lights long on, 36 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:48,560 longer and things like that. So I'm going to have a new site on that but I don't plan 37 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,280 more, take care of that. 38 00:04:52,660 --> 00:04:57,400 And the hours were probably going to address that in the special 39 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:08,620 program. Yes. So we can have what she has, what she's proposing. Okay. Well, we are saying 40 00:05:08,620 --> 00:05:21,460 that is going to be until 8 o'clock in May, June, July, August, September, and then when 41 00:05:21,460 --> 00:05:29,360 it starts to get dark earlier, then the, I think, the 6 o'clock, so for the rest of 42 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:37,960 it's going to be six and so it's basically standard time of six they're like 43 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:46,580 savings eight so May to September eight. May to September eight and then October 44 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:53,560 through April six and you know when we first went to the planning board planning 45 00:05:53,560 --> 00:06:00,640 said, give us your wish, give us your long periods so we wouldn't have to come back to planning 46 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:09,860 if they wanted to stay an hour longer. So it's not like this is, this is the longest. It's not going 47 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:22,860 to be, I don't know that they're going to run 10 hours in the summer and so what's the start 48 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:34,880 time. Ten. Ten a.m. Yeah. Again, that is based on the wish list of, you know, year-round, 49 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,600 seven days a week, and it may not be seven days a week, and I'm going to need a day of 50 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:48,400 rest, I'm going to thank you. So, I just handed out this chart from the town of Claremont 51 00:06:48,400 --> 00:07:00,700 use. And the, and highlighted is for eating and drinking establishment in all the zones. 52 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:09,680 And the point of having that is there was no zone that the town set ahead of time 53 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:17,140 we won't consider any area. So, you know, there are other spots where you can see the line 54 00:07:17,140 --> 00:07:26,200 if it's blank that means no. The majority are of the special permit and site plan which is 55 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:34,180 what we're doing. That she is going to argue with her, right? She's going to argue. Now I have 56 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:40,980 mentioned that the last meeting of that. But was there a question about whether or not? Well there was 57 00:07:40,980 --> 00:07:46,220 something that had been said and that you had misunderstood that you could only have one use 58 00:07:46,220 --> 00:08:03,720 on property, and I'm probably misunderstood that, but one use, I mean, there are, you can have home occupations, you can have, you know, you can get a special use permit, so you can have more than that. 59 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 You can have multiple uses, you just need a permit. 60 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,540 And I probably misunderstood what I just thought, well, I'm going to address that. 61 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:11,460 Okay. 62 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:20,160 So, I had thrown out at the last meeting that ALMA's business, and one of the other changes 63 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:27,180 that we're being proposed is that ALMA's really be a take-out business, not a sit-down 64 00:08:27,180 --> 00:08:30,180 in general, so people pull in and get food leaky. 65 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,780 And so, it's very similar to what Q2Go is. 66 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,760 And at the last planning board meeting, 67 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:43,020 they said, well, wait a minute, Q2Go is in the difference out. 68 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,540 Well, I looked up Q2Go's sound, 69 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,660 and it is actually a split sound. 70 00:08:50,380 --> 00:08:53,880 Residential let limited business break, which didn't include 71 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:01,640 her shop or a little take-out thing and her house, and it was already, already is what 72 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Suarez is up. And so, and if you just look at where I've got the two places marked, I realize 73 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:21,600 the scale is very small, but you'd go, Alamos, it's very similar in terms of how close it 74 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:28,920 is to 9G and yes, almus is not partially. 75 00:09:29,740 --> 00:09:34,600 Their shop, again, was on the other side of the sum. 76 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:36,380 It was actually in the RAsum. 77 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,840 And then somebody said, well, the winery was across the street. 78 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,940 Well, technically, the winery was considered agro culture. 79 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,460 And because they grow there on grapes and things like that, 80 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:59,000 agriculture is, of course, a lot of views. So anyway, since we last met you, some changes 81 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:13,440 to ours, basically being a takeout operation. And, um, to take out only? Yep. Now, there's 82 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:20,200 a table and that they have there, the people come, order, they can sit at the table while 83 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,920 they're waiting for the food to come. 84 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Play with the chicken. 85 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Yeah, that's right. 86 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:25,980 Play with the chicken. 87 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,260 And that's a good point. 88 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,860 Has everybody mind their place? 89 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,860 Do you know what I'm looking at? 90 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:35,100 Oh, you all know what it looks like. 91 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:37,540 So, yeah. 92 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:38,500 Play with the chicken. 93 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Oh, great. 94 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:50,520 And so it does have a natural kind of, you know, shielding for neighbors, and... 95 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,920 So that would be slightly interview? 96 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,820 Yeah, that's going to be slightly fun. 97 00:10:54,140 --> 00:11:01,860 So the... how many things do I have at that brief thing? 98 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:10,140 So the nature of their business, they want to do it at home because the business is not going to be... 99 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:13,420 to be like there's going to be a standing on me for customers. 100 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:17,280 They, you know, on average, I think we were 101 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,740 estimating about 20 customers maybe a day. 102 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,800 Some days, a little bit, more some days, 103 00:11:23,980 --> 00:11:25,400 a lot of a little bit less. 104 00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:29,040 It is not going to affect traffic patterns 105 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:35,040 or, you know, the nature of the area. 106 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,920 It's a small, long and tough operation 107 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,320 where if she's home, she's going to the house when there's no one there. 108 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:47,340 If she's at a park, she doesn't have that much of it. 109 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:56,820 And so it works well for a mom and pop operation to have it there and it has. 110 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:07,220 And we have covered most of the things. 111 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:09,020 Why was he anything best? 112 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,600 In a couple of questions. 113 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:34,580 You've just brought out so that the potentially would go inside the house so someone comes. 114 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:41,980 How would they contact them to make sure that it's not some form of a nuisance or getting away 115 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:43,940 if you're trying to get someone's wrong. 116 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:46,540 How, like, where is everyone when you start yelling? 117 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:52,560 I mean, what form of how do they let you know that there's a phone number? 118 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:55,380 Yeah, I say they call. 119 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:59,520 There should be a phone number kind of posted to say we're not here. 120 00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:00,400 Call this number. 121 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:00,840 Yes. 122 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:01,620 Perfect. 123 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,380 And we did try to take into account since the last time we were there safety issues. 124 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:14,840 We, with the parking, it's going to say you know that they have to fill into the parking. 125 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,760 There is the handicap, there's going to be the handicap space as well as the other three. 126 00:13:20,180 --> 00:13:25,140 There's going to be a small time that says, don't back out, pull out of front ways. 127 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,780 So we're trying to take into account any possible safety issue as well. 128 00:13:32,780 --> 00:13:42,960 That's a question. As far as you were mentioning about 20 people a day, what is the busy time of the day? 129 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:52,140 Okay, you know, is that really something to be something when you, you know, I mean, I can't help but know what I'm doing. 130 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,540 You know what I'm doing? 131 00:13:54,540 --> 00:13:57,300 Usually it's more like 12 o'clock. 132 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,280 It's very much time. 133 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,360 And then you eat at hours? 134 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:04,800 Maybe it starts to slow down a bit. 135 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:08,500 I've asked somebody like, maybe you want to do both. 136 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,980 So there's not much for you. 137 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Is there still what usually they would come one time like 5 or 6 or 7? 138 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,580 Some people call it as a read I had from like 12. 139 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:26,140 It says, oh, I'm going to be there like 20 or 30 minutes. 140 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:29,320 And they would order what they wanted to write down. 141 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:31,200 And so we get it prepared up. 142 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:32,520 That's how I'm going to do this. 143 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:40,520 I guess one of the main reasons I'm asking that is for specifically I can even name that. 144 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,940 is it necessary? 145 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,400 Do you think if you close the 7 people just come early, especially if you just have to 146 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,660 work the extra hours, which is the nuisance for you too, you know? 147 00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:57,140 Why not? I'm not suggesting close the 7, but why not close the 7? 148 00:14:58,140 --> 00:14:59,900 And then those customers will probably come early. 149 00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:28,610 I feel we have ordered some in good shutdown for the night. What season? Meaning for the day. I suppose, you know, until eight. Oh, for this summer is different. The water was not getting. It was back during winter or on. That's when the people's. You want to see people coming. As much during spring and summer as yes, they come and go. 150 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:41,170 I don't actually don't know what to do with that because it varies the time for that one during the spring and summer. 151 00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:48,670 But would you say there's like five people between seven, eight, green, and yellow average, ten, giving the idea? 152 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:54,430 It's been so long, so I think that it wasn't going to come up. 153 00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:59,330 and then maybe until eight only Friday and Saturday. 154 00:16:59,910 --> 00:17:02,370 Yeah, there's plus a lot of people, I think, 155 00:17:02,610 --> 00:17:04,730 it's a market for living. 156 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:06,810 And a lot of times, if you say eight, 157 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:08,490 we'll come in 7-15. 158 00:17:08,750 --> 00:17:10,510 If you say 7, we'll come in 6-4. 159 00:17:11,070 --> 00:17:12,770 So it helps you too. 160 00:17:12,990 --> 00:17:15,030 So it's one hour less a day after work 161 00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:17,550 about working for a woman. 162 00:17:17,910 --> 00:17:18,830 And then, okay. 163 00:17:19,070 --> 00:17:21,430 My last question is on the... 164 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:26,130 And I know this will be more planning to work on the little periods, too. 165 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:38,230 Where you're partying is now, because I did go look, is it, and I'm assuming the final apartment was this, too. 166 00:17:38,370 --> 00:17:45,130 But is it going to be easy to back up in this direction to get out with the food truck being so close? 167 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:46,990 Yeah, so this is all brass. 168 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:48,390 Oh, here it is. 169 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:48,990 That's here. 170 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:49,550 Yeah. 171 00:17:49,730 --> 00:17:50,510 So I'm going to take a look at that. 172 00:17:50,850 --> 00:17:51,890 I don't know. 173 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:55,230 Because it just looks like there's a few tracks 174 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:58,350 much closer to the road than it appears here. 175 00:17:58,850 --> 00:18:00,850 So this is from the road. 176 00:18:01,130 --> 00:18:03,050 And this is all brass here with brass. 177 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:06,270 The parking is going to be on the other side of the driveway. 178 00:18:06,270 --> 00:18:07,730 So I'm going to be able to run here. 179 00:18:08,570 --> 00:18:08,810 Yeah. 180 00:18:09,150 --> 00:18:11,990 And then to be able to come back for your mirrors, 181 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:24,950 So the parking is basically not going to, it's not going to be that close to the food truck, the stacking up will be an issue. 182 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:31,570 And then I assume that's something to fire the parking. 183 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:37,630 I saw something where they said the fire department said they could be the trucking that turned around. 184 00:18:37,970 --> 00:18:42,150 And he was actually going to try to come tonight, but he must have been like this, he forgot. 185 00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:50,750 But he sent a letter saying that they don't need to be, because it's so close to the road. 186 00:18:51,310 --> 00:18:56,510 The fire truck would access from the road, not from the driveway. 187 00:18:56,510 --> 00:19:04,630 way. So yeah. And I have to say this is really a way more 188 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:11,510 good. They're going so much to do cooking and they it's like 189 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:21,610 a dream for them. And it's a little more, but they want to do it. 190 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:24,810 So they do have a department of health. 191 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:25,850 We've got a letter. 192 00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:26,490 Yeah. 193 00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:27,490 Thank you, Bill. 194 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:27,970 Yeah. 195 00:19:32,290 --> 00:19:35,170 And then how is, I know it's offside human. 196 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:36,870 There's no one's eating on the side. 197 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:42,350 And how is the trash handle as far as just going to be dry? 198 00:19:42,610 --> 00:19:43,870 It's going to take it. 199 00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:46,410 And it's going to keep you there's two garbage. 200 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:50,730 And then the van may keep going to take it away. 201 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:53,410 so it's not going to sit on the carpet. 202 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:56,050 No, don't stir, don't have to stir, 203 00:19:56,590 --> 00:19:58,130 truck meetings to get in. 204 00:19:59,010 --> 00:20:00,250 So on the day of the day, 205 00:20:00,410 --> 00:20:01,670 this is just going to be really difficult. 206 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,800 It's not going to be much structured. 207 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,580 It's not going to be much structured. 208 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:12,040 And then I need to do a blue carpet. 209 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Are there some things that let people know 210 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,380 that it's eating this month? 211 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,540 A lot of them, because I know there's a nice gazebo 212 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:23,740 that you may get the idea to start walking to sit there. 213 00:20:23,740 --> 00:20:32,680 We, you know, the, um, again, we were thinking that if they come or have a place to sit down 214 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,440 while they're waiting for the food to go. 215 00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:36,960 And then- 216 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,720 This is your seatbelt. 217 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,340 Just have seatbelts or a table. 218 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,520 There's a table. 219 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,200 So could we remove the table? 220 00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:48,120 You know, I'm a lazy person, and I like to sit down, but I suppose I can sit in my 221 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:48,300 car. 222 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,940 Well, that's what I was thinking. 223 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:55,820 Oh, okay, I was thinking like a gazebo. 224 00:20:55,940 --> 00:20:57,700 That's more of a gazebo. 225 00:20:58,420 --> 00:21:00,280 Yeah, and it's movable. 226 00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:02,860 Yeah, I was thinking a gazebo word that you had to venture 227 00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:03,620 around the inside. 228 00:21:04,420 --> 00:21:07,220 It's just, yeah, it's just moving out of the middle table. 229 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,920 Because that, to me, would encourage people to sit down. 230 00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:11,480 Yeah. 231 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:13,860 Especially being right next to the food truck. 232 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:27,140 So 233 00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:39,830 I'm looking at the notes so it's a significant increase of traffic and pollution how would we address that? 234 00:21:40,030 --> 00:21:44,210 That's going to be more planning board anyway. 235 00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:18,890 That's why we're here, that's why we're here for the Firmament noise coming from 236 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:32,800 Congress. So no speakers. Okay, I was going to ask. There was maybe going to have a radio 237 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:43,960 in the food truck, but it was commented that a neighbor wouldn't want to hear radio. 238 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:53,220 out. So there is a noise ordinance in clear and right ready. So way it kind of, I mean 239 00:22:53,220 --> 00:23:03,680 just as a general, the sound you hear me now, the body with my voice, that is what the 240 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,960 noise should be at the property line. 241 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, if you have it in the truck, I, so I mean, you know, when 242 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,580 I was younger, I probably had it way too long. 243 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Sorry. 244 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:45,740 And we'll add that in the firm, though. There's going to be like no live music, no external speakers. 245 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,240 We're not going to put anything but noise ordinance because that's already in the zoning laws. 246 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:59,200 So, you know, if one of the neighbors makes a complaint, then we'll address that. 247 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,080 Not with the permit. 248 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,220 That would be just a separate issue altogether. 249 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:04,320 But we're still going to have that in here. 250 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,540 I mean, you know, we're going to discuss it. 251 00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:16,820 Let's see. 252 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:17,840 Public health concern. 253 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,980 You have a, you have the permit. 254 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:29,040 people wondering around that would be more for the planning board as far as any kind of 255 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:41,650 fencing or natural landscape to determine cigarette lives trash. They can address that you're 256 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:44,570 going to take care of the trash every day. Their 257 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,660 comments from the board? I'm just wondering about 258 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:12,640 like signage and such. So I mean, I guess the truck in 259 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,360 wake kind of works as like signage identifying the business 260 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,340 right? I mean, you realize, 261 00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:23,050 I guess, you know, 262 00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:26,450 there's no signage for, you know, part here or something 263 00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:28,090 just something, you know, it can be, you know, 264 00:25:28,170 --> 00:25:30,910 something, you know, kind of, you know. 265 00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:37,270 So we were thinking, you know, a small and then so it's, 266 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:41,330 you know, this is where you enter, this is where you park. 267 00:25:41,330 --> 00:25:49,670 with an open plug they can take a down or keep up this little sign by the parking 268 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:55,170 that's you know turn around pull out frontways you're not backing out onto the 269 00:25:55,170 --> 00:26:02,350 road so and we have to be a handicap sign for the handicap parking this 270 00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:08,030 And did I exceed the two mills because I don't understand the two handicapped parking spaces? 271 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:08,950 I think not. 272 00:26:09,290 --> 00:26:10,350 I thought it was one. 273 00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:10,770 Yeah. 274 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:13,870 I think don't fish two, double, double, double. 275 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:16,910 We have for a band so that they can get out. 276 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:24,050 Because originally for some of the places in our space, so we're saying that's one plus two. 277 00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:24,670 Yeah. 278 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:27,150 Three on the handicapped side for you. 279 00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:33,700 So there were a couple of questions that I have in an email. 280 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:42,500 Now one was what happens to the permit if new owners take over the residence and the 281 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,320 permit does stay with the residents. 282 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,300 If it's not, the permit isn't given to the owners, it's given to the address. 283 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,960 So I don't know who was asking that. 284 00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:52,600 That was me. 285 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,880 Can I be written in any of the way or is that just the way it is? 286 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,200 That's just the way it is. 287 00:26:57,340 --> 00:27:03,280 So if you have a business there, a home business that you sell your house to the business goes 288 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:09,520 with the house. However, it is a special permit, so it can be reported if there's issues. 289 00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:18,670 Is that addressed to your question, can I have a minute or wait and you know what you're 290 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:25,650 saying about it? I mean at any time it's a special permit, so at any time it can be halted, 291 00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:31,350 stopped. You know, if there's any issues or if they've decided that they want to change it, 292 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:33,790 that they have to come back here and get the permit updated. 293 00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:36,630 So they can't just say, oh, okay, we've got a permit. 294 00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:38,570 Let's have cables and chairs and have a restaurant. 295 00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:41,650 That still needs to be done through the permit. 296 00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:43,930 The 297 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:53,900 question, does it set a precedent 298 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,700 for anyone to put a food truck on their residential property? 299 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,120 And the answer to that is no. 300 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:01,740 I know what you mentioned here, though, 301 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,380 but even that didn't set a precedent. 302 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,400 Every special permit is done on a case-by-case basis, 303 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:11,640 no matter how many you have had in town. 304 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,920 But I also came for me and I think that was worth it poorly. 305 00:28:15,340 --> 00:28:20,720 I think my concern was more of a precedent of allowing commercial operation in residential 306 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,020 areas, especially given across the street is a vacant lot that the bank owns as the house 307 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:27,220 is crafting sinking. 308 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,100 And the last thing I want to see is the bank getting ideas, oh we can sell this property to the 309 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,560 business and get more money just like that. 310 00:28:35,260 --> 00:28:35,420 Yeah. 311 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:41,280 Those people are still paying their taxes, they're developing for a day to honor all those 312 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,620 lots. 313 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,560 But the point is, anybody who drives that up for a commercial operation, that's the last 314 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:54,240 thing I'm going to say, so I mean, I can't tell you exactly how things happen with stuff 315 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,700 like that. 316 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,440 It's kind of generalized, it's generalized, but the thing that it is, if I'm a business 317 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,540 and I come in and the bank says, hey, you can put a commercial business here, I'm going 318 00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:09,440 look and it's going to be R.A. as residential. Sure, agriculture. Nobody's going to spend 319 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,140 that kind of money on vacant land and hope they're going to get a commercial business in there. 320 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:22,800 Yeah, so many. It's open for us. Yes. Well, they can, if they do, what could happen is they would come 321 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,000 here first before they purchase it, of course, and try to get a special permanent ahead of time. 322 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,920 And we hadn't done that before. But it's the same process. I mean, you're not going to see it 323 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:41,580 a classic, you know, commercial plastic enterprise industry, so I understand that. I mean, this 324 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:48,200 is a small business that they're applying for, you know, it is an eatery. 325 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Again, it's a special 326 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,320 So, 327 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:13,060 at the planning board meeting, the person who runs the Germantown Farmers Market, so because 328 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:22,060 almost half of them is the food service there, and other places. So, mom, leaves, 329 00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:31,080 Rosel, many different locations, but they spoke, she spoke of how respectful, quiet, clean 330 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:37,240 they are at the farm's market so she's not a clever resident, correct? 331 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:39,540 Are 332 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:57,150 you in an email with a guy that has put a bit of anything 333 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:08,650 further? 334 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:10,410 No, that's all right. 335 00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:11,130 Barry? 336 00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:11,650 No. 337 00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:15,170 All right. 338 00:31:15,890 --> 00:31:17,470 Are we ready to put a tool vote? 339 00:31:21,050 --> 00:31:21,790 Are you ready to vote today? 340 00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:23,150 I'm ready to vote. 341 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:23,710 Okay. 342 00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:24,490 Any other questions? 343 00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:25,910 No. 344 00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:27,410 Anything further? 345 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:28,290 No. 346 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:31,500 Okay. 347 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:37,200 And the public comment is closed, so anything that you add 348 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840 cannot be part of the meeting. 349 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,060 We didn't have to go in this post. 350 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,860 It was closed last meeting, do you think? 351 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Well, that was a public meeting. 352 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,420 That was a visit, you know what I'm actually talking about. 353 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:52,220 But if there's anything else you'd like addressed, 354 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:55,920 you're allowed to talk here. 355 00:31:56,020 --> 00:31:57,440 It's just, it's not going to be part of the record. 356 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,720 It'll be on the recording, but it does not 357 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:07,000 not become part of the meeting minutes or part of the public comment was open last month. 358 00:32:07,180 --> 00:32:09,540 That was the public meeting that was in the record. 359 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:11,840 Well, I don't think you were here. 360 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,220 I was not right now. 361 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:21,400 Obviously, it's press concerns and I'll just say quick, you know, I know issue with family 362 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:30,500 or the business or sports mall business just have an issue with a eerie right next 363 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:31,060 my house. 364 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:41,180 It's going to be added in noise just for operation and extra traffic and I like the 365 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:48,340 privacy and my client and I'm concerned about the impact on my house value increasing 366 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:56,600 I don't have any issues with the business, I just don't really want it in my front yard. 367 00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:05,300 I don't know where you guys live, but I would hope that you could take it into your own personal 368 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:05,840 considerations. 369 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,780 How would you feel if this operation was raised to your house? 370 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,080 You know? 371 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,700 Or any other resident that matter? 372 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:15,240 That's all I got. 373 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,060 Do 374 00:33:27,770 --> 00:33:29,710 you guys have any questions that you want to ask? 375 00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:34,530 We can go into session if there's questions you don't want to ask in front of them. 376 00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:37,870 The public bring them in. 377 00:33:38,270 --> 00:33:44,710 I personally don't know if it might be helpful for you to answer the initial questions. 378 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:54,830 Yeah, no I definitely, I feel like I've been updated 379 00:33:54,830 --> 00:34:01,710 And they feel like we're, I have to just, I mean, I do understand, you know, both sides. 380 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:08,770 But again, this is just a special permit, so it's whether or not she's allowed to do 381 00:34:08,770 --> 00:34:13,490 it, plus some of the rules as far as like screening and even parking, that that's all covered 382 00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:14,450 by the planning board. 383 00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:21,370 And we can send recommendations or any suggestions that we have, but that falls on the plan board. 384 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:30,410 Which, again, you've got a suit that you know, but you're not ready 385 00:34:35,050 --> 00:34:37,650 if you guys want to have a seat back in the gallery 386 00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:07,380 I'm just thinking more, you know, especially residential during the week and then that would be all you around 387 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,320 where they could shut down earlier with the dark, 388 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,740 which I think the conversation with 389 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:19,900 that they were going to shut down was going to start, because they didn't see it still. 390 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,240 Yeah, 391 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,700 it was at the end, so they could Thursday, 392 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:38,200 so just with those average then there's no effectively 393 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:57,380 So the planning board will dictate what they need to do, but they have to put shades on some of the theme of the product. 394 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,660 So some of the ceremonies, so there's no light pollution for all of the instruments. 395 00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:30,230 So, lighting to be determined by a man in the world and not to exceed hours of operation when we 396 00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:39,820 take out only and we eat him. 397 00:37:51,550 --> 00:37:54,510 Chairs are benches only, no tables, no 398 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,960 light music, no 399 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:17,150 special permit, we're 400 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,560 calling 401 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,880 event, I 402 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,460 know outside speakers, especially 403 00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:37,590 event permit, 404 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:46,350 I'm just thinking if they have 405 00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:51,770 a family meeting or something, you know, if it happened before, if they had a family meeting 406 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,280 So 407 00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:15,710 you said the head to trash receptacles are those dumpsters? 408 00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:20,450 Garbage, garbage, garbage, yes. 409 00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:23,770 with pickup or... 410 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:29,190 No, he's going to take it away, take it off the ground. 411 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:30,250 Take it to the dump every day. 412 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,260 Signage will be playing, 413 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:46,960 there's already... 414 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Well, there's already in the zoning, there's already stuff for signage. 415 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:57,840 And then do we have to address the minor nature? 416 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,140 So 417 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,460 the question on the table is whether it's going to be considered a minor or a major home 418 00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:25,180 occupation. 419 00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:30,820 So home occupations are suffering in two categories. 420 00:40:53,790 --> 00:41:04,030 was there any assistance in determining whether it's a minor or a major, or was it just based on what you think you discussed? 421 00:41:04,030 --> 00:41:06,710 And you have no outside out, right? 422 00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:10,290 All the health is your family, you can move. 423 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:21,850 I mean, my reading of that minor versus major, basically minor is almost like you wouldn't 424 00:41:21,850 --> 00:41:23,410 know it's there otherwise, right? 425 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:28,290 So I'm doing the service, the service, they're in the truck, I think it's a major. 426 00:41:28,430 --> 00:41:33,150 Yeah, I'm thinking it's a major home occupation, because there will be a permanent trail. 427 00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:35,070 And there's visible impacts. 428 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:37,410 Yes, there are visible impacts. 429 00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:38,930 So the 430 00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:15,510 definition of a home occupation major is there shall be no external storage of vehicles, 431 00:42:15,790 --> 00:42:22,350 trailers, equipment, goods, or materials for more than five consecutive days in any given month 432 00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:29,510 unless such storage is permanently screened by either vegetation or fencing as directed by the 433 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:35,410 planning board to screen it from adjacent properties and help preserve the residential character of the 434 00:42:35,410 --> 00:42:42,050 property. Two major home occupations are permitted one home occupation sign for 435 00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:47,270 property displayed as specified in the sign code. There will be no other 436 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:52,510 commercial displays, signs, advertising banners, lighting effects, or projections 437 00:42:52,510 --> 00:42:56,950 displayed on the property. Three such home occupations are not changed 438 00:42:56,950 --> 00:43:01,570 residential character of the residents, nor create a new sense in particular in 439 00:43:01,570 --> 00:43:06,850 regard to noise, parking, traffic, over smoke, vibration, dust, heat, or glare. 440 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:10,310 Writing and 441 00:43:10,310 --> 00:43:15,890 boarding stable, town of Claremont page 53 of 102 zoning code, 442 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:22,980 and I'm going to pull it up because 443 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:26,520 that I picked that up, pulled it up, pulled it up, pulled it up, something else. 444 00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:29,990 Oh, yeah, that's 445 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:32,890 There's more, you just better notice that I get off the ship. 446 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:34,550 I think I get off the ship. 447 00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:06,120 So I feel this would be a major home occupation. 448 00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:09,900 So 449 00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:32,900 that's very, uh, you hear people's, 450 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:39,700 But Pamela referred in to me so I am very indebted to you for that. 451 00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:41,700 I wish I don't know what I considered my stuff. 452 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,860 It's hard enough just to find someone. 453 00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:46,640 I've heard you have a show up. 454 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,360 It's surprising how hard it is to find someone. 455 00:57:50,260 --> 00:57:53,260 But no, he is true or they're amazing. 456 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,220 So I'm going to try for a moment. 457 00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:58,940 What's the amount you get over here? 458 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,960 Yeah, I think they're all backed up, too. 459 00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:02,800 Yeah, of course. 460 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,080 There's only one thing to get to you next spring. 461 00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:05,740 Is that correct? 462 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,460 Yeah. 463 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,660 I don't think people, three people, come out. 464 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:11,460 And I think they're going to have a few copies. 465 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,700 Unless I've covered them in all three copies. 466 00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:14,560 It's on responsive. 467 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,300 They are. 468 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,760 And then finally they have responses. 469 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,880 Instead, either two of them were, and said, 470 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:20,880 well, I'm so sorry. 471 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,300 I'm just, well, I don't know how old. 472 00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:26,400 One of them actually puts the next door, 473 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,440 you know, looking for, 474 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,420 And he was probably to me saying, oh my God, this is a job. 475 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,440 I don't want to take a long time to respond. 476 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,260 I don't know if you know that. 477 00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:36,880 To me. 478 00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:42,600 Which I bailed out three weeks later after calling a few times. 479 00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:45,240 Wow, it's difficult. 480 00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:49,340 And this time here too. 481 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:52,940 Everyone running to get things done. 482 00:58:53,820 --> 00:59:01,260 It's really good, I've been with her, you get the leaks, you get all the stuff that she 483 00:59:01,260 --> 00:59:01,440 got. 484 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,800 Yeah. 485 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,700 So I realized you're going to have to try and fix some of the summer to keep it out of 486 00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:08,360 your brain. 487 00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:08,980 Yeah. 488 00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:14,340 It's good to have, I don't know why, that's why I should have been doing it for a long time. 489 00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:14,680 Yeah, right. 490 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:16,360 It's business. 491 00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:17,420 Yeah. 492 00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:19,600 And then can you make a lot of money? 493 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,140 Yeah, surely. 494 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,080 So, out here is special. 495 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,560 It means the trades are occurring. 496 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,080 Yes. 497 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,160 I just want to sign it up and then sign it up under there. 498 00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:32,000 So, we can't add and put a second store. 499 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,420 There's probably room for a few more. 500 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,220 Car elevator. 501 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:36,560 That one's pretty much. 502 00:59:37,460 --> 00:59:38,520 You just want to get down there. 503 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,280 You don't like the tower? 504 00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:43,220 So, a room. 505 00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:43,840 Okay. 506 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,960 And then I add my sequence in there so you can put some story in it. 507 00:59:47,980 --> 00:59:49,160 Okay, car out of here. 508 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:50,020 You have to do that. 509 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,660 Yeah, I can't go about what I showed you. 510 00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:54,660 No. 511 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,480 You don't want to catch it when you're in a car. 512 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,540 Hey, you never know. 513 01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:12,620 And then you're going to give that to you tonight. So, yeah, you can email on the call tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Stop it on the 6-8-1. Wonderful. Cool. Thank you all again. I appreciate it. Thank you. 514 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:19,720 Thank you. 515 01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:29,820 You're 10 seconds. That's important. 516 01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:35,960 Is there any other group business? 517 01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:39,240 No. 518 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,220 And I get a motion. 519 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,820 So I'll make a motion to close that in. 520 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,080 Great. 521 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:44,700 One favor? 522 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,280 Aye. 523 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,140 So carried. 524 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,240 You're impressed. 525 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:06,680 Right. 526 01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:07,880 That's what I swear. 527 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,460 I thought this was nice and good. 528 01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,100 So I don't know if I'll never feel in the air.