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meeting will officially open for
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one option that may or may not happen

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the

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stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for

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We have the uh review of minutes from 64
78 and 85. What's the pleasure of the

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board?
>> Madam chair, move to approve uh the

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three uh minutes as as presented.
Second.

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» Any discussion? All those in favor?
>> I oppose. It's unanimous.

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» Oh, okay. So,
uh, next order of business is, um, we

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have three poll requests. They're all
hearing, so you'd like to come up.

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» Is there uh, one you'd like to start
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» Uh, well, we'll start by uh, let's see.
The first one, we've got Fitch Road. If

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you could just give your names, please.
>> Sure.

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» Yeah. Erica Troa representing National
Grid Electric. Colton Marshall National

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Grid.
>> Thank you. Yes. So, we'll do uh Fitz

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Road first.

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» Uh yeah. So, there's a new midspan pull
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existing pull eight on Fitch Road. Um
this is to install a new feeder monitor.

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» Sorry, what did you think? What monitor?
>> Feeder monitor. Monitor. Yep.

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board have any well it's a public
hearing so I'll see if there's anybody

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who has any questions or comments in
favor of this request

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close that opposed
close that what's the pleasure of the

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>> madam chair I move that we approve the

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uh pole location on pitch road
>> is there a second

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» second
>> any discussion all those In favor,

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» unanimous. Next one would be uh West
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» Um this similarly uh is going to be a
binsspan pole between existing pole 13

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and 12-50.
Um and this is going to have a a uh it's

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called a recloser. It's basically a a
circuit wide um circuit breaker for the

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electrical feeder. Um and similarly the
the next one is as well. So midspan pole

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it's going to have its own
infrastructure on it.

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» Okay. Again it's a public hearing. So
what else? Is there anybody to speak in

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favor?
That closed. Anyone to speak against?

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Move that closed. That's the pleasure of
the board.

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» Madam Chair, I move we approve uh the
poll location on West Boilston Street.

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» Second. Any discussion?
>> All those in favor? I

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» opposed. It's unanimous. And then we
have Flag Street.

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» Yep. Last on Flag Street is again a
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and P 7. P 6S50.
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infrastructure uh to isolate the
existing recloser on P six. So it'll

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have some infrastructure up on the top
of the pole.

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» Okay. Again, it's a public hearing. Is
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it? Move that close. Against.
Move that close. What's the pleasure of

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the board?
>> Madam Chair, I move we approve the

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utility pool location on Flag Street.
>> Is there a second?

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» Second.
>> Any discussion? All those in favor?

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» I.
>> It's unanimous. Thank you.

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» Thank you so much.

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The board has a um license application
for a new taxi license. Would you like

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to come forward?
>> I don't see them here.

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» They're not here.
>> No.

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» Um I know that the chief did um
comment on the uh vehicle

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and had no objections. Um, does the
board want to move forward?

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» Chair, I'll make a motion that we just
table it to the end of the meeting. Give

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him a give him a chance. Maybe he can
make it.

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» Do you do you know if they're going to
Are they supposed to be here?

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» Yeah.
>> Oh, okay. All right. So, um,

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Mr. Bailey has moved that we table it
till the end of the meeting.

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» Any other discussion? All those in
favor? Oppos? It's unanimous. So, vote

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off on that.
And then we have uh Aqualine Utility

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Inc. Um
this is for the um line utility holding

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the issue of the bonds blah blah blah.
So what's the pleasure of the board?

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That's it's just an assignment sign

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that we ended the contract with

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restructuring

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» same

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Right.
>> So what's the pleasure of the board?

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» Madam Chair, I move that the uh board
authorize

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uh
changing the entity of Aqua Line Utility

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Incorporated to Aqua Line Utility
Holdings for the purpose of the contract

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that the town has.
>> Is there a second?

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» Second.
>> Any discussion?

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Uh the only discussion I have is does
the whole board have to sign that

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document?
>> No, I think

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» just maybe Mr. Call maybe amen to
authorize the chair to sign the uh

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» All those in favor?
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And then we have uh Walnut Street uh lot
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» here.
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» Come forward.

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» Again, if you could please give your
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» I'm Kyle
>> John Bernier. Northeast Energy.

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» Okay.
And my understanding is you're going to

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be doing some work on the church and
that you're going to use

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» request to place the roof and it's right
along the um parking along uh that right

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side. So looking to temporarily use that
space as a safety precaution and use of

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dumpster and materials.
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that the duration of
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» Two weeks.
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And we don't have any set in stone
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would be, you know, suitable.
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» Yeah. Just presently right now we're
doing the sidewalks in that area as

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well. So um perhaps would be a good idea
to uh meet with the DPW superintendent

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to um to work that all out as far as
when they're going to finish the

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construction on the sidewalks. I mean, I
think they have like twothirds of it

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done. Maybe
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» I know it. I know it. So, I mean,
because you don't want to, you know, set

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a date and have those not be completed.
So, we'd like to see everything

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coordinated so that everybody's
>> we have to do that.

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» So, um does anyone on the board have any
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» Uh I have a question. Well, maybe to go
through the town solicitor, but uh is

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there a way to
have the town indemnified?

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» I'm sorry, what was that last part? He's
just being asking the solicitor.

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» I was asking council solicitor how we
would go about securing the town's

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interest and indemnify us from
liability for authorizing the use uh

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named on an insurance policy. Maybe
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separate, you know, dification. You were
awesome. Thank you.

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» Agree. But even in that agreement, you
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specifically named as an insured on
their liability

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» additionally insured.
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know, any contractor.
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» We do that.
>> Okay. Thank you, Bill.

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» Um, any other questions?
What's the pleasure of the board? U

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madam chair make a motion we authorize
the use of the uh parking lot or the

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portion of the parking lot as shown on
the drawing uh subject to coordination

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with the DPW superintendent the chief of
police and providing uh the insurance

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certificate naming the town as additions
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» second
>> any other discussion all those in favor

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» just one minor point is on this sketch
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the dumpster at the rear of the lot.
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» How are you going to access that?
>> So at the front end of it. So uh can I

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bring you this picture?
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» So we were thinking about
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so we would have this whole area blocked
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dump. I meant to pick it up, but you do
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this whole area, please.
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» I'm all set.
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favor?
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» Thank you so much. Good luck. Again, you
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» Perfect. Thank you.
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» Okay.
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request. Pleasant view. Dustin, you want
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» Good evening.
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» Just give your name, please.
>> Uh, Dustin Whitaker, owner of Pleasant

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View Waste Removal in Ports in Clinton.
Um, so I'm coming before the board

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tonight just to um give a brief brief
history of the Touch Truck Show. It's a

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Halloween themed um we call it a truck
or treat. Uh we started the event in

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2023.
Uh we had about 150 to 200 kids walk

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through that year. It's increased every
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the event consists of industry leaders
in trucking, excavating, bulldozing. Uh

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we have Lifelike come in and land in the
fields up at the uh the high school. We

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have the sheriff's department there. Um
it it's it's quite a good show. We we've

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got a couple of uh food trucks up there.
Um it started off as a fundraiser for

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wheat. Um we've continued that theme. Um
we're going to continue that theme this

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year as well. We're looking for non-p
perishable food items for wheat. Um this

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year we're adding a uh we're requesting
cash donations to a um a facility called

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on-site uh on-site academy which
specializes in PTSD for first

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responders. Um so any cash donations
that come in are going to get donated

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100% to on-site. Um, I'm coming before
the board to ask for help with uh police

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details. Um, any any kind of financial
relief that we can get on police

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details. Um,
the first year we had, I believe, two

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police details, one for traffic control
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year two and year three we've had just
one police detail for the traffic

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control. Um, we're trying to get local
other local towns, Bolton, Berlin,

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Sterling, Lancaster. We're trying to get
a a police officer and a cruiser from

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each of those towns. Um, we're hoping to
get a couple more um police cruisers

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from Clinton as well as the traffic
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the first year, the police relief
association absorbed the cost for that.

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Uh, the second year, Whitney Oil
absorbed the cost for that. The third

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year, Pleasant View absorbed the cost
for that. Uh, like I said, we're just

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looking for any help in in offsetting
that cost basically.

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» Um, I did talk to Chief Coin yesterday.
Um, told him I was coming up in front of

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the board tonight as well. So, between
police relief association, if you guys

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are willing to help with a donation or
the chief absorbent in his budget, you

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know, whatever whatever can be
facilitated, I guess, is is what I'm

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looking for.
>> Well, I mean, we also have the civic

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fund. we can have a donation of the
civot funding.

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» Okay.
>> Um so I mean I I have no problem I'd be

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more than glad to accept a motion to uh
>> Madam Chair, I'd make a motion that uh

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we authorize $500 from the civic fund to
the the organization and the police

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detail could get paid out of that.
>> Okay. As far as coordinating an onduty

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cruiser or an officer to be part of the
show, I'd encourage you to uh enter into

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a conversation with the chief to see if
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interest because my grandkids love going
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>> there's no conflict there. Everybody

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loves it.
>> Yeah. But I'm advocating now for my my

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family members. But it's a great
opportunity for kids to

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» Yeah. They love big trucks.
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» Loud trucks.
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» I think it's a great event for the town.
>> Appreciate it. Thank you.

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» You've done a great job with it. So that
that the motion is to authorize $500

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from the civic fund. Um
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» Second.
>> Any other discussion?

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» I I just I just wanted I didn't see a
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» Uh so it's October 24th. It's a
Saturday, 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. It's

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uh 75 West Boilster Street, across from
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» Question.
>> Rain date of the next day, the 25th.

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» Uh I I would just also like to echo what
Bill had to say. Um it's great fun for

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the for the kids and you know, I know
that there's a lot of people that show

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up for it. It's a fun day. So, um, I
think it's terrific and thank you for

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putting it together.
>> Yeah, I couldn't I couldn't have done it

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without my awesome team. They've been
they've been great with it. So,

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» that's that's terrific.
>> Thank you.

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» So, uh, motion's been made and there's a
second to give a $500 donation from the

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civic fund. Any other discussion? All
those in favor?

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» I I.
>> It's unanimous.

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» Appreciate it. Thank you.
>> Best of luck. Let's hope the weather's

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good.
>> It's always good.

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» It'll be a pleasant view.

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Okay. Um, the next uh agenda item is a
one-day liquor license for the BFW

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outside event. Is there anyone here from
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Uh, well, the request is that it's end
of summer barbecue. The date is

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September 26th from 12 to 8:00 p.m. And
the place is 10 Allen Street, the back

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parking lot.
So, uh, they have done this many years.

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So, um, I know there's no one here, but
it's kind of a consistent affair. So,

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um, what's the pleasure of the board?
>> Madam Chair, I make a motion that we

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approve uh the BFW and the summer uh
liqu.

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» Is there a second?
>> Second.

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» Any discussion? All those in favor?
>> That's unanimous.

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Uh, PAV Golf Tournament donation
request. Uh, this is the Oh my goodness.

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This is the 33rd annual PAV Golf
Classic.

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Saturday, September 12th. Tea times
begin at 8:00 a.m.

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and it's at the Berlin Country Club.
So, they are asking uh for a donation. I

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know that we've in the past, I'm sure,
have given them something. So, um

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» I don't know if you
>> I'm sorry.

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» I'm not sure how much.
>> Okay.

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» So, I guess I'll accept the motion that
whatever we've given them in the past,

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we would um match whatever we've done in
in the past.

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» I'll accept that motion.
>> Okay.

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» Is there a second?
>> You know, we have the the reserves set

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amount we've been given. Okay. Yeah,
I'll go with that. It was But

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» any on the discussion? Honestly, the
discussion is that after we find out

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whatever the donation was in the past
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» we'll match the same this year.
>> I don't I be honest. I don't think we

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did.
>> I don't

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» I say that because um Mr. Farra I was
talking to him about this and I he had

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give him an example letter. I just
thought I'm nodding my head here. I

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don't think
>> Okay. So, you helped him formulate this

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Bernie?
>> Well, I gave him someone else and we

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plagiarized it. Yeah, I I didn't read I
didn't read it that much.

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» Um I mean it says a $100 whole
sponsorship is a popular.

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» Yeah.
>> So um in their letter,

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» Madam Chair.
>> Yes.

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» If I may, maybe I'm off
over the edge, but I'd amend the motion

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to authorize a $500 contribution
to the PAV golf class if there isn't

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already a history of a different amount.
Is there a second?

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» I'll second.
>> Any other discussion? All those in

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favor? I
>> I Well, I hope they have a great sunny

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day.
>> Giving away all those sunny days.

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» I know it. Huh?
Okay. The Clinton landfill

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um
containment basin clean

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out bid award. Only one bid was
submitted.

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Um, it's a motion to award the bid in
the amount of $210,000.

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» And who was the uh
>> I'm looking at it right now.

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» I don't have that.

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I don't even see it.
The bit went to for the

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» I think it's onyx.
>> Onyx. Onyx is

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» onyx.
>> Onyx.

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» Okay.
>> Onyx.

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Did you?
>> Yes. Right here. Right here. Okay. So

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it's a
Onyx company from

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Actton Mass.
What's the pleasure of the board?

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» I have a question about the bidding
process at $210,000.

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Does only receiving one bid uh
fit the procurement act stuff about

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minimum number of bids and that type of
thing. Can we award a contract with only

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one bid? I believe so.
>> Yeah.

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» If it's a qualified bidder or
>> Yeah. Yeah. Can

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» I make a motion that we award uh the
$210,000 bid for the pace and clean out

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to Onyx Corporation?
>> Is there a second?

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» Second.
>> Well, it certainly looks on on the

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document here, Bill. They have done
other local

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Chapi Shbury.
Yep. So, looks like they have a good

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reputation. So,
is there a second? There was a second

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there.
>> Any other discussion?

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» All those in favor

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» um
>> is it in the SharePoint?

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» Okay, we have um

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allocation expenditures review.
>> I have the auditorium

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request.
You do? I know. I've got mine on to

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here.
>> All right. Okay.

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» What have you got? All right. That's
down below.

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» All right.
>> Oh, right. Okay.

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» Yeah.

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Guess this is just um
the runoff of where we are um at this

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point. So if anyone has any
discussion

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uh they'd like to bring forward
I don't see that

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» I'm sorry file is it labeled something
>> it was added

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» today
>> today

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» today I was kind of late
>> it should be under N9

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» if it's not we can print off a copy
>> well I guess I I have a question for

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you. Um um Mr. solicitor. Um can we go
back if in one case what we have given

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um
awarded to town employees for their

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working during um co
and uh could we go back and revisit that

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if we
have certain departments that we did not

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allocate
compensation for them if because there

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is still money in that uh line item. A
substantial amount of money.

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» Yeah. I mean, you can you can amend the
the agreement. It just has to be, you

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know, substantially the same scope and
within substantially the same purpose,

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which here you can make that argument
that it is. I mean,

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» it's a gray area whenever you do these
amendments

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» when you go back, you know, because
obviously we're getting toward the, you

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know, toward the end of the uh
expenditure period. So, but here if

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you're going to if it's got it's the
same purpose, you know, it's a little

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bit different scope cuz now you're broad
scope. But,

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» well, I mean, when we first did it
originally, I think there was only uh

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four departments that we had given
something to. Um so in that time that

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that that did occur there was a lot of
discussion about you know extending it

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to other departments
and um it didn't happen at that

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particular time but so I guess my
question is is

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» but sorry so but you would be taking
money from some money that was allocated

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to another under another agreement or
another project right? No.

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» Okay. There's still money left in
>> correct a substantial amount of money

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left
>> that was allocated that was for that

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» reason that
>> right premium pay for uh God I can't

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even read it. premium pay for eligible
employees during co.

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» So at the time um Angela who was the
assistant had uh was doing the work on

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it and she had inserted an amount of
330,000

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and um we still have uh
over 150 plus left. So um the

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consideration
is can we go back and rethink

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of are there additional people town
employees that we would like to

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compensate if they were working with you
know in that time frame that we

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compensated those other departments.
So we would be looking at the same exact

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time frame that we compensated the other
departments

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» for the same reason too.
>> Correct. Yeah. Correct.

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» I'll have to take I'll take I mean I'm
familiar with all the actual regulations

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but
>> Okay.

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» We can take a look at that.
>> Okay.

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» But it sounds like it' be it'd be the
same purpose.

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» Correct. you know, maybe we're
increasing the scope to include

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additional employees maybe that were
missed initially just because

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but if it's employees that fall into the
same, you know, probably as a decision

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earlier, I think we have we have a good
>> Okay. So, will you have that information

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for us for the next meeting?
>> Okay.

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» And there may be, you know, there may
there may be no specific answer. We just

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may have to, you know, convince
ourselves that it's within the same

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scope and substantial for the same
purpose. So, we're going to do it

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because it would be right with the same
the employees that did it. They came

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into work during that whatever. I don't
know what um period they used last time

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that three-ear co period. I'm not really
sure. I don't I have no idea. But just

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to be clear, so there's no um I work for
the town. I would not campaign.

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» So, I work for the only department.
Thanks, Breny.

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» Yeah. I know. Well, I Well, you know how
things get. You know, you think we

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conspired to work this but how how would
this comes out? I did work during the

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vet. not get any money out of this. So,
I've already saved money again.

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» Madam Chair, yes.
>> Just in the interest of uh time,

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» could we request that the chair and the
town administrator work on a plan to

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implement if the opinion comes back that
we're it's permissible?

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» Um
I'm happy to work on anything as so

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directed, but um Madame Chair, can I
just make a a comment to Mr. Gibbons?

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Um, so the sheet that had tracked all of
the ARPA projects, um, as far as what I

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can tell, was last, um, produced or
updated by the former town administrator

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in April. And in the columns
about the status, it says complete on

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this particular one. So, I think what we
need to determine is if it was

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overbudgeted
um and then it was just whatever and

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again I wasn't here so I'll rely on
everybody's historical um context if it

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was overbudgeted and then the four
departments or what have you were paid

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out and that's why there's a balance. I
don't know what I don't know and we're

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gonna have to find out is if
there really is more people that that

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fell into those departments and those
categories that should get it or if it's

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just those folks were paid out and
there's a balance because there's

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balances on a lot of the projects.
>> Um if somebody purchased a vehicle for

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example and it was budgeted I'm making
this up at 40,000 maybe it came in at

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35. So there's like smaller ones, but um
>> to your point, there's a substantial

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amount there. We should investigate it.
>> Well, what had happened was when Angela

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did her background work on this as an
example, she brought in sheets for us,

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the board of selectment, and I think you
remember this, Julie,

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» that um were number one what other
communities had done

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» and what amounts they use for
compensation. And so she had like an

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example that one community, I'll just
say Milbury,

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» okay,
>> Milbury had decided to compensate all of

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their employees
and set an amount of money that they

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were going to give to all of their
employees across the board and other

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communities
um chose to only give to certain

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departments. So I think when that 330
was set up, she was looking at if the

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town decided to compensate all their
employees at the time that that's what

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what you were looking at. As I recall,
Julie remember when she I probably still

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have those spreadsheets at home, but
that's where we kind of like she had put

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everything together and so that's where
I think she came up with that 330.

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So, um, and then when the board decided
to just give certain departments, that's

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where that huge lump of money.
>> That makes sense. Yeah.

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» So,
>> but because she had done a pretty fair

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amount of work on
>> trying to show us at least what other

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communities were doing
>> and had none. So,

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» Right.
>> Yeah. I might have some people too

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because we certainly certainly talked
about

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» well I mean we certainly talked about it
>> for sure. We did it multiple times too

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like it was kind of a multi-
you know meeting uh discussion

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probably over the span of like six
months a year. So wow, there are

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probably like touch points
>> over. So I can try and figure out maybe

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pinpoint a few meetings where we really
nailed it. But yeah, some of it's

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probably an estimate and then it was
almost like to Mary what Mary just said

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like there various options proposed to
try to figure out what would work best

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for Clinton. So
>> and I I don't know maybe Jolisa she

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might still have some of those files in
her office.

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She did have some stuff for old home day
and

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» I'm sorry.
>> She did have some stuff for old home day

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in some nice little um binders and it
was all organized. I haven't seen

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anything about Okay.
>> but I can check more.

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» Sure. Okay.
>> All right. So, Bob, we'll see what we

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can come up with for the 23rd.
>> Take a look see.

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» Yeah. It would be nice if we could find
some of her.

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I I'll look to see if I I still have
>> And would you be looking to expand to

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additional departments?
>> Uhhuh.

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» That weren't compensated.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> Well, I believe we only compensated

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four.
>> Okay.

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» Police, fire, board of health, and the
um cafeteria workers.

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» But we budgeted signi significantly
more.

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» Correct. because Angela's was the one
who put inserted that amount and she was

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going by, you know, if the town decided
to do all of the employees.

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» My point is that it was budgeted for all
the employees.

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» Correct.
>> Or a significant

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» correct
>> significantly more employees than and

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» what we actually Yeah. Right. So it was
budgeted but then the board restricted

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those employees that would be receiving
the benefit

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» and those were the full departments I
believe Julie right police fire

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» board of health and the cafeteria
workers

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and
>> they all take up different amounts.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» There was a calculation.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» Okay.
All right. Moving on. Um, we have a

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request from the boosters hall of fame
that they had last year. They're going

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to do it again this year. Um,
and the date for that is

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1010
from 5 to 9.

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Uh, what's the pleasure of the board?
Madam Chair, I move that we approve the

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request from the from the Boosters Hall
of Fame utilize the town hall.

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» Is there a second?
>> I'll second.

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» Any discussion?
>> So with these three requests, they they

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um is there a usage fee?
>> Yes. Well,

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no,
>> not for these ones. So when when uh when

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anyone uses the town hall after hours,
do we have a custo I don't if you know

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do we have a custodian here?
>> Yes. If a custodian is needed then we

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00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:09,440
charge the custodial fee. If they're
town departments we don't charge them

427
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,320
rental.
>> Okay. So we that's why it's getting we

428
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,360
don't
>> but they do pay. Okay.

429
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,519
» Any other discussion? All those in
favor?

430
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:29,200
» Oppos?
uh putting youth

431
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:34,880
cheer. We're looking to use
uh town hall on.

432
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:39,120
So they come after there's the high
school cheerleaders that are currently

433
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,919
using the town hall auditorium for
practice

434
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:47,159
and the youth cheer the littleer ones
come after.

435
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:56,399
Oh, this is just for their practices cuz
I'm looking there's no date here.

436
00:33:54,399 --> 00:34:00,640
» Yeah, it's the season. This will be the
last year that the cheer has to use the

437
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,919
auditorium cuz they'll move with the new
school.

438
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:08,720
» Oh, nice.
But I mean, you know, they put,

439
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:12,000
» you know, there's mats down and stuff
like that. Yeah.

440
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,639
» And we we had two meetings with both
groups to make sure that we were all on

441
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:20,399
the same page.
>> Okay.

442
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:24,320
Does anybody have any other questions?
>> What's the pleasure of the board? Madam

443
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:28,320
» chair, I move that we approve Clinton
youth cheers use of the town hall

444
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,879
auditorium.
>> Is there a second?

445
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:35,359
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

446
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,359
All those in favor?
>> Opposed? Unanimous.

447
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:44,359
We have uh requests from the um the
conservatory

448
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:50,119
um
Oh, well, they are here.

449
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,119
» Yep.

450
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:58,640
» Well, you girls were patient. You waited
long enough, right? You were the first

451
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:03,520
ones in the room.
If you could just give your names,

452
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,160
please. I'm Connie Drexler. I'm the uh
director and Donna on the board there.

453
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:14,400
» Oh, nice to meet you.
>> So, we are planning a we're a nonprofit

454
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:19,760
organization uh the conservatory. Uh we
have actually a lot of students here

455
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:23,920
from Clinton, but we actually right now
uh rehearse in Lancaster and we just

456
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,440
wanted to give a Christmas concert here
on the 16th, December 16th.

457
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:38,640
And we think we've talked to everybody
and and uh we also like to make sure

458
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,320
hopefully it gets advertised because it
should be a good family concert. M

459
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,920
» Mhm.
>> We've given lots of Christmas concerts

460
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,440
in the past and really looking forward
to being in your beautiful hall and

461
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,640
especially the acoustics are really nice
now.

462
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:51,920
» Mhm.
>> So

463
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,640
» they are.
>> Yeah.

464
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,960
» It's a beautiful hall.
>> It is a beautiful hall and it's a real

465
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:03,040
stage which is enough room because we
have it mainly we'll we'll probably have

466
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:08,160
some solist but it will be mainly we
have a youth orchestra and we have a a a

467
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,000
fiddle group. Mhm.
>> So I think a lot of people here Celtic,

468
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,760
a lot of Celtic music which people love
here uh Clinton and then we have a a

469
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,640
choir also.
>> Mhm.

470
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:23,119
» And uh we can all fit in the stage I
think hopefully.

471
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,680
» So you're it's on December 16th from
6:30 to 8

472
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,920
» probably something like that.
>> Well that's what it says here. Um we

473
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,760
» but you have a setup time right
>> set up and rehearsing. Yes.

474
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:37,119
» Okay.
Okay.

475
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Uh what's the pleasure of the board?
Madam chair, I move that we approve the

476
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:45,440
use of the town hall for the their uh
student Christmas concert and rehearsal.

477
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,040
» Is there a second?
>> Second.

478
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,920
» Any discussion? Just like to say it's
great that you work with the youth and

479
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,200
it's great for
>> Well, we love it. And this is one of our

480
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,599
students here, Abby,
>> and she's played with us for quite a few

481
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,240
years now.
>> Is she going to be participating?

482
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,880
» Yes, she's going to be playing.
>> Wonderful.

483
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,880
» She's really good at that fiddle, so
come join us.

484
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,640
» Terrific.
>> Lot of fun. Any other discussion? All

485
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:11,280
those in favor?
>> I

486
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,079
» have a wonderful night. Okay. Thank a
lot of people show up.

487
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,720
» All right.
>> Thank you. Um

488
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,720
» ideas of how we can advertise it cuz um
when I spoke to the custodian, they said

489
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:29,280
she said, "Oh, people always asking
about Christmas concerts here." And uh

490
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:33,760
so I don't know how we
>> feel free to send anything to the town

491
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:37,520
administrator's office. Yes, we will be
happy to get that out for you.

492
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:41,000
» We have a lot of students from Clinton
actually.

493
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
» Wonderful.

494
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,480
» Okay.
So, our next order of business is the

495
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:50,640
second reading for the speed
stabilization.

496
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:53,520
And this again is just a formality. We
have to do it at least three times.

497
00:37:52,079 --> 00:38:00,320
» And thank you to Phil for printing it
out.

498
00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:06,240
And uh as we all know it's in um for the
school and I think it's a great idea and

499
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,680
uh with the pleasure of the board.
>> Madam Chair, I make a motion that we

500
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:17,440
approve uh the SP stabilization fund uh
policy and wave the third reading and

501
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:22,400
finalize it tonight. I'll
>> second that.

502
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:29,640
» Uh just a clarification, Mr. Solicitor,
can we do that?

503
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:29,640
Can we forgo the third reading?

504
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:40,720
» It it is a general school committee
policy for developing policy, but it's

505
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,359
not a burden on it's not a requirement
of a board of selection.

506
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,520
» I love this,
>> right? We can we can wave this board's

507
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,960
need to have a third reading. school
committee rule that we're

508
00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:00,640
» they they already voted twice. They did
theirs two readings. Sorry.

509
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:06,079
» Um and then typically it's three, but to
Mr. Conny's point

510
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,480
» requirement by this board for adopting
policy,

511
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,599
» right?
>> So,

512
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:16,320
» okay.
>> They can still wait.

513
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:22,079
» They can do exactly your way.
>> They'll be thrilled for it over and over

514
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,760
again. I'm I'm okay with that uh bill if
if you uh

515
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,720
» Well, that's the motion.
>> That's your motion. Is there a second?

516
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,640
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

517
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,359
» All those in favor?
>> I

518
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:39,440
» opposed. It's unanimous.
>> Steve will be thrilled.

519
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:47,240
» Um the next um
item is the Strand Marquee bid award. Uh

520
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,240
to award or not?

521
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Madam Chair, members of the board on
background, uh the town received a

522
00:39:53,040 --> 00:40:03,280
$100,000 ARPA grant from the state for
the Strand Marquee. Um after the uh

523
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:09,200
termination of lease with the prior
lease holder at the Strand, um a revised

524
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:15,119
invitation to bid was submitted was uh
released in July. bids came back on

525
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:22,240
August 5th and the lowest qualified bid
uh is for $140,292

526
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:27,520
in excess of the grant, the state ARPA
grant. Um

527
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:32,079
it uh last Thursday the strand
subcommittee met um part of the the

528
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:38,560
meetings materials were a proposed
amendment to the strand agreement um

529
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:44,720
that would um change the um
percentage of contribution by the um the

530
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:50,880
other party in the agreement Mr. Mr.
merit um and also proposed to utilize

531
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:57,599
$70,000 of town ARPA funds for the M
marquee project. That um proposal was

532
00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:03,359
not viewed favorably at the strand
committee meeting. Um and so it would be

533
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,119
to this it would be up to this board to
um

534
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:14,160
to make a determination as to whether
they wish to utilize

535
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:20,319
um strand funds town ARP funds for the
marquee. Um if not then we don't have

536
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:24,200
committed funds and cannot proceed.
>> What's the pleasure of the board?

537
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,359
» I move not to use the to just man I And
I wasn't on the board at the time that I

538
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:36,319
appreciate all the effort that went into
to but the plan and the hope of keeping

539
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:41,040
this historic building around, but it
just for a number of factors and I won't

540
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,599
bore everybody. It just it just didn't
go through. It didn't happen. And and to

541
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,920
just put a marquee up with with nothing
behind it, it would just it just

542
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,880
you know, even though you can say it's
grant money as our money, it's still tax

543
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:56,319
money. It's a waste in my opinion. It's
just end up being a waste of money when

544
00:41:54,319 --> 00:42:01,280
you're not going to have anything marque
that says but and so yeah I appreciate

545
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,200
but I my motion is not to not to expend
the money.

546
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:08,640
» Is there a second?
>> Madam chair for purposes of discussion I

547
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:14,200
second the motion. Um
>> open for discussion

548
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,200
» for discussion. I uh

549
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:22,800
is it clear that we could do this if we
so choose. We can reallocate

550
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:27,119
the ARPA money to use
for something that was not part of the

551
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,880
original strand.
>> I I think it could be construed in the

552
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:35,200
language of the agreement that this
would be consistent with the agreement.

553
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:39,119
It was for improvements to uh for use of
the facility as a theater performance

554
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:43,599
venue and mares are uniquely associated
with that that activity. Um really the

555
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:49,200
question the purpose of the amendment
that was proposed was to change the um

556
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,319
proportion that was the owner's
contribution to the project. the owner

557
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:56,560
is not in position to
>> where did that concept come from the

558
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:00,800
reducing the owner's contribution.
>> It came through discussions with the

559
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:04,960
owner with the committee um and with
staff on how we might somehow be able to

560
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:11,280
salvage this uh salvage use of some of
these funds for for the for the project.

561
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Um and so then you're bringing that
proposal to this.

562
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:21,359
Madam Chair, I'm I'm concerned with the
idea of I don't see how you could

563
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,119
execute this in time to
>> my most recent conversation with the

564
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,800
contractor. They indicated that they
could. However, the cover project is

565
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,560
showing us there's always the risk of
something coming up. So, but but they

566
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,599
they were they indicated that they could
get if if we started this week that they

567
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,119
should they they said they almost
certainly can get it done by the end of

568
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,119
the year.

569
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:51,119
» Is there a from the feedback from the
committee um

570
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:56,720
this is a big expense for someone who
might want to lease it? Do they feel

571
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,760
like that is beneficial to a future
lease?

572
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:05,200
um
>> improvement to to it. And I guess the

573
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:09,040
second part of that is
>> we don't use it. We it's not like

574
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:13,280
» that was asserted that that was asserted
but I I don't recall there being much

575
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,440
conversation on that point. Okay. Either
way, is that is that a fair

576
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,079
characterization?
>> I couldn't what what Julie just said

577
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:24,160
that was there any discussion about
whether this would be a potential

578
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:27,359
benefit to some future user?
>> Well, not if we don't know what's going

579
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:31,760
in there. you know, the marquee could
say, you know, condos for sale, you

580
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,520
know, I mean, and there's nothing and we
as we I only attended that one meeting,

581
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,720
but you know, even if you put this this
marquee out there and even if you

582
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:42,960
invested that other 300,000, it's still
not leasable. It's not the way it is.

583
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:47,680
And and that's kind of where I'm at is
you I hate to say we're giving the money

584
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:51,920
back, but you just pour it in there and
the the owner is only now we're going to

585
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:56,319
put up what 30% so 30 grand and then we
put all this money into his building and

586
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,599
then what it just again I I I don't
fault the effort. It just it just to me

587
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:04,400
didn't
>> Well, just to go forward too, I mean

588
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:09,040
with the discussion from the other night
>> was it was quite evident uh to the

589
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:15,119
committee um and we did have a
contractor on the committee that let's

590
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:20,000
just say that we took
75,000 from the AR money to put new

591
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:26,560
handicap
uh restrooms in and

592
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:31,920
the question was posed directly to him.
Um, obviously you'd have to get specs.

593
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:39,599
You'd have to go out to bid. Could that
work be completed and the the time

594
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:43,200
allowed? And quite frankly, he said no.
So

595
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:48,480
the other money that you would be
investing, I think the only thing we

596
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:54,800
agreed to was the engineering uh costs
that were $32,500.

597
00:45:51,520 --> 00:46:02,400
Okay. Get the the code and things like
that. I know I have it somewhere, but um

598
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:08,319
I don't think there was a real appetite
for

599
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:13,119
uh as as Brendan said, the marquee uh
because we knew that there was very

600
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:19,839
little if nothing that was going to be
done on the inside.

601
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:26,800
So, um, I have to say, and I said it the
other night, I am have no intention of

602
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,880
putting $70,000 into the marquee because
I just don't see that anything else is

603
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:37,440
coming. And I don't think it's going to
come for a long time, if it comes at

604
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:44,480
all. Um, I mean, that building has been
put up for lease for years. The owner

605
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:51,680
had no appetite to sell the building.
Um, that was always a difficult cell in

606
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:57,440
the first place because it needed a
substantial amount of work and

607
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,760
I don't know of anyone that's going to
put a million plus into something they

608
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,880
don't own.
And um,

609
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:12,160
if you own the building, of course,
you've got you've got something that you

610
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:18,400
own and you can make nice. And there's a
lot to that building, not just the

611
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:23,440
theater. So, um, and I I I know I
expressed it to the owner that, you

612
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:28,160
know, he had a lot of time to think
about selling that building. I know he

613
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:36,160
was encouraged by the real estate
company to sell it very early on as

614
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:42,000
opposed to continue to try to lease it.
And I think it showed over the last four

615
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:48,160
years that it was a difficult sell
and uh people weren't knocking down the

616
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:54,720
doors to come and lease that place. I
think it's a shame, but um he's the

617
00:47:51,920 --> 00:48:00,400
owner and that's the decision he made.
But to get down to the 11th hour and

618
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:07,520
change the whole concept of what the
town had agreed upon in the beginning,

619
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:13,280
um I'm just not comfortable with it. So
that's and I know people um you know, a

620
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:19,359
lot of people said to me, "Oh, I I want
it to be a movie theater." uh you know

621
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:23,920
but I mean even the people who had the
gentleman who had leased it they had

622
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:29,760
very little intention of making it a
movie theater again they were going to

623
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:33,760
do other venues and that in itself would
have been a huge disappointment to the

624
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:39,839
Clinton people.
I know that. And um the second

625
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:48,720
individual uh that was only in the last
month, he also was not interested in the

626
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:54,400
movies. So um but go ahead. No, no. I
just wanted you mentioned like it was

627
00:48:50,800 --> 00:49:00,240
like kind of like a hard sell, but um
>> I think to your point of like it was a

628
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:03,839
hard sell for people who want to lease,
>> you know, like I think

629
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:07,520
» probably I don't want to speak for
anyone, but just wanted to clarify that

630
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:13,599
point. You know, I think a lot of people
like you said encouraged the sale

631
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:18,559
because I I think every single person
that showed interest was concerned. I

632
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:24,640
always tell people when they ask me
about it, it's like renting a home and

633
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:30,079
renovating the kitchen and then not
owning it. Like, it's just a really

634
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:36,880
» difficult thing for people to want to
invest in. And I guess it's tough with

635
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:41,599
the marquee because
for me because a lot of people have and

636
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:45,599
consultants that have come in even with
the downtown renovation

637
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:52,640
uh revitalization
um have said like that's kind of the

638
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:58,000
keystone of it. Um, and
there's something to be said about like

639
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:03,920
curb appeal for attracting other
businesses to Clinton, you know, when

640
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:08,880
there's not kind of a rundown vacant
movie theater. Um, it's a real it's a

641
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:13,119
real tough tough choice to make because
you got vacant property. You know, I

642
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:18,240
guess it's like I I'm struggling with
this a bit because

643
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:24,720
I don't want to generalize, but in my
years on the board, you kind of hear

644
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:31,119
like the owner, you know,
are do we have like motivated owners who

645
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:38,800
own property on this street to maintain
or to find people that will kind of like

646
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:43,200
help bring new businesses to the town to
help kind of, you you know, broaden the

647
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:49,680
tax base and, you know, bring more
people to or be a good location for the

648
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:53,680
people who live in in Clinton. So, I'm
struggling a bit with kind of like the

649
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:59,599
landlords on High Street
and their kind of care of their property

650
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:02,559
as it pertains to the Clinton community
and the whole

651
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,400
struggling with
>> I moved to town more than a quarter

652
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:10,240
century ago and a quarter century ago
there was a lot of deferred maintenance

653
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:14,960
both public and private. Um and over the
last 25 years, we've seen a lot of

654
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:20,160
investment on both sides. Um but yeah,
there's still there's still pockets of

655
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,839
um insufficient
>> Yeah.

656
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:27,359
» uh care.
>> Yeah. And and I didn't mean to disparage

657
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:31,520
people who have put investment into
>> Oh, no. I didn't take it down.

658
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,440
» Yeah. cuz I you know we can certainly
appreciate it but like you you know I

659
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:40,160
walk my dog down there every night and
it's just hard to see those stay vacant

660
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:45,359
for 10 plus years because I'm sure they
need maintenance. They're not ready to

661
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:51,359
to bring new business and it's don't
think it will help with

662
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:56,000
marquee being
Yeah.

663
00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:01,680
I also don't think spending money on a
entity that is

664
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:06,000
really hard to see the future of that
and I'm okay with it not being movie

665
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:11,280
theater. I think movies are really a
real risky business. It's hard to make

666
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:15,520
money doing that. I can I can see why
they want to diversify their offering

667
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:20,319
there or the people who are leasing it
because I think that is in my research

668
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:25,760
what other movie theaters have done to
try to make sure they stay in business

669
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:30,160
you know I mean I'm sure the people if
you can make money off of movie theaters

670
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:34,960
someone else might have you know swooped
in and and uh taken over that lease but

671
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:38,960
and we all know from the former owners
how much of a challenge that is so I

672
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:43,760
don't want to put on our nostalgia
glasses and say it's going to all be

673
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:48,960
movie theaters forever, but you know, I
applaud them for like trying to rethink

674
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:52,480
it, but right now it's hard to see that
future.

675
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,839
» The only thing I can offer for your
consideration and with the decision

676
00:52:53,920 --> 00:53:03,839
obviously is the decision of the board.
Um whe you know, this is an opportunity

677
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:09,760
to stabilize a prominent visual landmark
in our downtown. Um, you know, it's not

678
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,520
typical that that is publicly funded.
Um, not certainly in communities of our

679
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:17,040
size. If you're city of Worcester or
Providence or something like that, you

680
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:21,680
maybe you have other funding sources.
This is an opportunity to do that. Um,

681
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,680
and if we choose not to, we choose not
to. Um, and if we choose to move

682
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:33,359
forward, we are under a very tight
timeline. But, uh, that's the only other

683
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:40,880
nugget of consideration.
Madam Chair, if any um uh

684
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:46,000
if the owner of the property were
willing to stand by the original

685
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:50,240
agreement that was with the prospective
tenants of 50% investment in his own

686
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,359
property,
>> y

687
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:57,839
» I would be more inclined to support
going forward with this this proposal.

688
00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:03,599
» Okay. But if he doesn't even have the
faith in in uh revitalizing the

689
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:08,800
property, even though it's not a burden
on the Clinton residential taxpayers,

690
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:14,640
it's our money and I don't think we
should be investing it in a private

691
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:22,480
enterprise that we have no idea of
what's going to happen there. uh if if

692
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:27,119
he were inclined to to be a 50 50%
contributor,

693
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:31,520
I'd be more inclined to see the town uh
use this money rather than give it back

694
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:35,680
to the state. Um
>> if that's if that were the case, I don't

695
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:41,599
I can't speak for on his behalf tonight
and we'd also have to revisit the

696
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:44,480
amendment to make sure that that was
that that it worked that way. That

697
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,800
wasn't the the amendment that was
drafted up.

698
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:51,040
» Right. I understand that. But it
indicates to me a lack of commitment by

699
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:56,880
the property owner to the future. I
believe that the strand whether it gets

700
00:54:53,599 --> 00:55:01,760
used for movies or entertainment or cod
comedy or any of those types of

701
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:06,720
activities I've seen in facilities just
like this in a number of towns in New

702
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:12,559
England. Um
I think it's a cornerstone. It's a

703
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:18,319
critical part of keeping downtown
moving forward and not backwards.

704
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:24,800
But I don't see the commitment from the
property owner or an inclination to I

705
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:29,280
mean he's kick kissing off whatever
amount of money we would have uh

706
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:32,800
contributed if he would put in the same
amount.

707
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:39,280
» Yeah. So if I understand you the the
50/50 was for the town ARPA. So if I'm

708
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:44,640
asking for 70 $70,000 from town ARPA
>> for this in contingency, it would have

709
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:46,319
to be $35,000 from the AR,
>> right?

710
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:48,559
» Okay.
>> Um

711
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:52,480
» well,
>> just for me to be inclined to consider

712
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,520
it that it's also the timeline, Phil,
>> I know this

713
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,640
» there is is I don't know who's saying
this could be done by what is it

714
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,079
December?
>> No, November 30th. It has

715
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:06,000
» November 30th. The work has to be
complete. No, it has to be built by it

716
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:08,880
has to be built by December 31st.
>> Has to be

717
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:12,880
» What's the November 30th date?
>> That that's in the original agreement so

718
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,920
that we'd have time to do all our
bookkeeping at the end. We didn't think

719
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,480
we'd be in a situation,
>> right?

720
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:24,400
» And and these are public bids.
>> We already have these

721
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:27,799
» for the bathroom.
>> Just for the mar

722
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:32,640
the 192,000 is
>> that was just a breakdown that they did.

723
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Um,
>> oh, that would that that's that's a

724
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:42,799
placeholder um uh possible use of funds
roster that we worked up. That's not

725
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:50,079
those are just estimates. And I think we
realize that absent of the repair of the

726
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:53,200
stage 4, the time and and possibly any
changes to egress with new egress doors

727
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,799
that there's not there's not time to
build a platform.

728
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,400
» Um,
>> so so what we're really talking about is

729
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:01,920
just the marquee.
>> Yes. And the town's going to put

730
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:06,319
$170,000.
>> No, the town The town will put $70,000

731
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:10,000
of the ARPA funds.
>> Yes. But there's also a a grant that the

732
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:15,280
town has control over.
>> Yes. So that that's

733
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:20,000
» So the town's going to invest $170,000.
>> Yes. 100,000 of which cannot be used in

734
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:23,839
any other way.
>> Understood. But it's still a a

735
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:29,119
commitment that the town is making on a
piece of a privately owned piece of

736
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:34,160
property that has lackluster support
from its own property owner and he's

737
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:39,839
going to contribute
$7,000.

738
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,960
» If I did your math correctly, um
yeah, that's what would have been

739
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,400
proposed. But if if it was to be 50%,
it' be 35,000.

740
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,920
» But it was only 10%.
>> Okay.

741
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,440
» 10% of the 70,000.
Yes.

742
00:57:50,400 --> 00:58:00,400
» Okay. So, um I'm going to shut off
discussion. So, um there's been a

743
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:05,200
motion, a second. What's the uh pleasure
of the board? All those in favor just

744
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,280
the motion was to not spend money.
>> I'm sorry.

745
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,440
» My motion was to not spend money.
>> Right. Not spend money.

746
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:15,839
» I just want to keep talking for a
second. I just want to make sure. Yeah.

747
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:24,480
Um, just to clarify for people out
there, the motion on the floor is to not

748
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:29,599
spend uh use $7,000 from the ARPA funds.
>> All those in favor?

749
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:33,920
» I all those in favor of not using the
ARPA money,

750
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:36,400
» not any of it, right? 170,000.
>> Like in other words, we're not it's

751
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,079
whether I don't whether it comes out of
the ARPA funds or out the other 100,000

752
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,400
basically to not go through with the
project. Okay. All those in favor

753
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:53,119
» I
>> opposed I nay. So it's three to one.

754
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:58,960
» Okay. Thank you.
M just clarification. Um Phil, if you

755
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:02,559
just hang on one second. So do we have
now that there's a change but we did

756
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,319
talk about the the ARPA funds to be used
for the engineering and code and all

757
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,760
that. Do we have to rewrite the
agreement and then vote on that? Because

758
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:13,359
the agreement is written for the whole
project, right? So yeah, but the the

759
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,480
architecture and engineering fees, it
was code analysis and distant

760
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,920
conditions. That in itself only added
up, I think, to $13,000.

761
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:22,559
» So that that's the amount we're talking
about using from our

762
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,640
» I thought it was the total. It wasn't
engineering. It was just like on the

763
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:31,520
sheet here added up to 325.
>> Sure. But that was for an allocart um

764
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:34,480
menu of architectural services including
schematic design, design development. We

765
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,000
won't be doing any of that. We're just
doing existing conditions and a code

766
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:43,440
analys. So, do we have to drop an
agreement a different agreement and vote

767
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:46,880
on to to authorize the town to to
>> Well, go ahead. We'll have a

768
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:51,200
conversation with the owner 50% then it'
be 6,500.

769
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:54,640
» You if if that's not if that's not a
problem at that at that point, I don't

770
00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:01,599
even care.
We can't agree in 6500. Um, but if it

771
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:06,559
were to be the that we would pay he
would pay 1300 and we would pay 11,700

772
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,559
that amend that amendment to the
agreement would have to come before you

773
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,680
at your next meeting.
>> Okay, that's that's Thank you.

774
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:20,160
» Thanks Ben.
>> Thanks.

775
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:26,559
» Okay. And then um they had the do not
block on M Street and um I had a request

776
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:32,720
that we just delay that because of now
the um all the construction that's going

777
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:36,960
on up in that area just to delay it for
to our next meeting.

778
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:43,480
» Okay.
And um

779
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,480
she

780
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:52,559
Okay. This is the um
the gas storage tank license temporary

781
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:56,480
heating
that middle school project. Can you talk

782
01:00:55,359 --> 01:01:01,440
on this bill?
>> I'm not

783
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:06,160
» not quite sure, Madam Chair.
>> They have a temporary storage of um

784
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:12,880
propane outside of the middle school. I
think it's 100 gallons. Um

785
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:18,000
we we voted on it in November last year.
it comes up as expiring again in

786
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:22,559
November. So, we just want to extend it
for the life of

787
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:25,760
» Okay. So, that's okay.
>> So, move now.

788
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:30,880
» Is there a second?
>> Second.

789
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:34,480
» Good thing you're here, Jula.
>> Is there any discussion? All those in

790
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:38,559
favor? I
>> oppose. It's unanimous. Ah, you're

791
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:42,920
wrong, Karen.
>> I am. Um

792
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:55,200
so um Mr. Bailey you will be happy to
know my computer is dead so my extensive

793
01:01:51,920 --> 01:02:00,079
report out I just had to recreate
>> in handwriting mode which will make it

794
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:05,680
much shorter. Um so good evening
everyone. Um just some updates for the

795
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:11,119
board. Uh we had our first department
head meeting. I think that was a couple

796
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:16,400
of weeks ago. Um it was long. It was 90
minutes but it was a great first um

797
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:24,400
department head meeting um since I
started here in July. Great exchange of

798
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:29,599
ideas. Um I did um
I it came out that there's some training

799
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:37,119
that um some of the department heads or
their um support staff need on um the

800
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:42,079
foyer system um as well as civic floss
apparently. Um, there was some training,

801
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:48,640
I don't know when, maybe a number of
years ago on how department heads could

802
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:53,920
add information or update information on
their individual department pages. Um,

803
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,960
there's some new staff, there's people
that don't remember it. So, I'm working

804
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:04,799
on scheduling a training for Civic Plus
um to come out and work with folks on

805
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:09,359
how to do that and also um an online
training for the Freedom of Information

806
01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:13,119
Act. Um, so those are two things we
identified right away that um we could

807
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:18,240
use some training on. So I'm going to
organize that. Um, also our new

808
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:22,640
assistant town administrator, Nicole
Valentine, will be starting here in

809
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:28,160
Clinton on September 28th. Um, that will
coincide with our second department head

810
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:32,400
meeting. So um, just going to get it
right in there and meet everybody. I

811
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:38,240
think it's a great opportunity. Um, so
we're excited to have Nicole join us.

812
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:44,160
Um, also the Clinton Fire Department and
Police Department are putting together a

813
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:50,319
911 um 25th anniversary memorial
ceremony event which is going to be on

814
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:55,920
911 which is Friday um starting at 8:30
in Central Park. And we really hope that

815
01:03:53,200 --> 01:04:00,000
um the community comes out. I've asked
um staff to take a few minutes and go

816
01:03:57,839 --> 01:04:05,680
out there. Um so there'll be some
remarks and a wreath um that will be

817
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:10,480
laid in the park. So, um, just wanted to
thank PJ and and members of Clinton Fire

818
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:19,200
and the police department for putting
this very special, um, program together.

819
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:25,200
Um, also just wanted to mention, um, I
did ask Phil if he would put together a

820
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:31,119
dashboard or a crosswalk of his projects
because they're numerous. Um, so that

821
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:35,520
when I have questions or if the board
has questions on the status of different

822
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:39,599
projects, um, I've asked him to update
that quarterly, it is in your

823
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:43,200
SharePoint. Um, just take a look at it
when you have time. If there's any

824
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:47,280
specific questions, I'm certainly happy
to follow up. Um, we can have him come

825
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:50,720
to a different meeting and step people
through it or if there's any details

826
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:55,039
that you want, but I at least want to
sort of track um, because there's so

827
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:58,640
much that he's working on and it's
getting a little confusing. So, I

828
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,400
figured that would be a helpful tool to
me that might be helpful to the board as

829
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:07,680
well.
Um, I also wanted to let you know that

830
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:15,119
um I've been attending
um these group meetings. Um it's now

831
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:20,880
morphed into the Wuset Watershed
Coalition, which is kind of a take and

832
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:26,079
spin off of um the Quabin Watershed
Coalition. Um essentially

833
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:31,440
um actually Mr. Ward reached out to me
from West Boilston. um he and some other

834
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:36,319
folks from uh town administrators and
town managers from all the communities

835
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:44,640
that touch the uh Wuset Reservoir are
coming together um to talk about how

836
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:50,160
Quabin um is putting has put together um
their watershed coalition to really talk

837
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:55,920
to Governor Healey and others about
creating some parody on what people are

838
01:05:53,359 --> 01:06:02,240
getting for pilots um for being the
stewards of the land that's owned by the

839
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:08,720
state in our communities. Um so I've
been listening on on that. Um there was

840
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:14,319
a um
so Governor Healey actually um has some

841
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:18,799
listen listening sessions that are
happening this month. Um there's going

842
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:22,799
to actually be one in Sterling. I think
there's one in Orange. There's going to

843
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:28,799
be a couple that will be online. um
myself and David Baird are going to um

844
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:35,200
attend and listen in but essentially the
governor established a commission on

845
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:41,280
pilot for stateowned land and hence the
listening sessions across the state. Um

846
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:46,720
these are going to actually be hosted by
DLS and

847
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:54,880
essentially um some of the members of
this new watershed coalition of Wuset

848
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:58,559
um wrote a letter to the governor to say
we love that you're in support of Quabin

849
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:04,559
and that you're doing these listening
sessions but could you kind of expand

850
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:11,680
your scope um and include you know Wuset
as well um that we have the same issues

851
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:17,359
that Quapen does. Um, you know, due to
the scale of the Door, sorry, DCR

852
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:22,799
ownership of town land, this has an
impact on our communities. Um, new

853
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:27,039
growth, revenue, um, current pilot
funding formulas and local costs

854
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,119
associated with stewarding that land are
all over the place in different

855
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:36,480
communities. So essentially just wanted
to bring it to your attention that we

856
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:40,559
are trying as a collaborative to
sort of wave a flag to Governor Healey

857
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:44,880
and say we're interested just like
Quabin. Um can you make sure that you're

858
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:51,039
considering us when you're doing these
pilot um sessions across the state and

859
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:55,680
to just get it on the state's radar that
we also would like to get some more

860
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:59,359
funding um for being such good stewards
um of of the reservoir. So, I just

861
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:06,079
wanted to let you know that I'm
participating. Um, like I said, myself

862
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:10,000
and David Baird will be um listening to
these listening sessions and

863
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:14,880
participating and talking about what our
experience has been. And hopefully we

864
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:18,880
can make some headway and make some
noise and and try to get the attention

865
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:27,279
at the state that we can get some relief
here in town.

866
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:30,679
And that is all I have this evening.
You can clap.

867
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:35,759
» You're smiling.
>> That's wonderful because these guys want

868
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:40,880
to get home to watch the Patriots.
>> As do I. Mary Rose, I have to tell you.

869
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:43,600
I like my football and chicken wings,
too.

870
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:48,400
» I know. That's what the TV was for.
>> Oh, yeah. That's why we're building the

871
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:55,679
TV. We put the
>> I know.

872
01:08:49,520 --> 01:09:00,960
» Um listen, uh we haven't had um
the individual come back or he hasn't

873
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:04,440
showed up for his um
>> delivery license.

874
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:13,440
Taxi. Was it a taxi license?
>> Yeah, a taxi license.

875
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:17,279
Um,
does the board want to go forward with

876
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:21,920
it because he has been cleared by the
chief

877
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:25,400
vehicle and
it's a Subaru.

878
01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:31,719
» He said the chief said it was in good
condition.

879
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:43,120
» Is this a new or just a renewal? It's a
new No, it's a new one. Yeah, just Yep.

880
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:49,440
I think we only have
>> Yeah, I saw it. I just um Sorry, I just

881
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:52,560
didn't want to bring it up.
>> Oh,

882
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:56,960
» I think there's only one or two other
>> other delivery. Yeah, I was going to say

883
01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:02,320
I know I know the one we renew
everywhere.

884
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:08,560
» Madam Chair, where it's been signed off
by the uh chief, I'd be inclined to move

885
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,000
forward with the granting the license.
So, that's a motion. Okay. Is there a

886
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:16,440
second?
>> Second it.

887
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,440
» Any discussion?

888
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:22,600
» All those in favor?
>> I opposed unanimous.

889
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:32,640
» So then we have um traffic committee
recommendations. Um the board met on the

890
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:39,679
I think Lisa is going to
>> Yeah, perfect timing. come up and um

891
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:44,719
what what uh Lisa did for us at the
meeting which was phenomenal and she's

892
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:49,679
agreed to uh do it for us in the meeting
so people can basically see what we're

893
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:54,600
talking about and the board of selectman
can see it.

894
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,600
Um

895
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:18,080
Just for everybody know, Lisa Profett
works at the DPW department,

896
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:23,920
long-term employee. So, um she pretty
much pretty much knows every street in

897
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:30,159
the town of Clinton. So, uh so the first
uh agenda item that we addressed was uh

898
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:38,000
no parking on Allen Street. And that
would be from um

899
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:45,360
Stone Street to Main Street, High
Street, excuse me. Um

900
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:52,960
and this has been before the board uh
several times. Again, the the committee

901
01:11:49,040 --> 01:12:00,000
um unanimously, the fire chief, police
chief, DPW, superintendent

902
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:03,280
um unanimously uh are in favor of doing
it.

903
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:10,320
» I think it was from this from this
corner to high

904
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:14,719
» I right. Yeah, the high. So, it's stone.
So,

905
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:19,280
what's the pleasure of the board?
Madam Chair, I move we approve the

906
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:22,000
recommendation of the traffic committee.
Is there

907
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,560
» parking on that side of Allen Street?
>> A second.

908
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:29,679
» Any discussion?
>> Yeah, I have a a question. So, um this

909
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,000
is just cuz we don't want people parking
on the street.

910
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:38,400
» Correct. And right there, they don't
even have any frontage. They aren't even

911
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:42,400
supposed to be parked there. Those cars,
there's no

912
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,960
» typically. So, no frontage equals no
parking.

913
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:51,840
» Correct.
on any across there they have frontage

914
01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:56,560
so they're not in violation of anything
these people there there's absolutely no

915
01:12:53,679 --> 01:13:03,360
frontage there you know and then you go
down further

916
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:08,159
» I guess what I'm trying to say is
is this like

917
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,679
what we're going to institute like
throughout Clinton

918
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,400
» no just
street yeah this street I mean versus

919
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:19,520
like any other.
>> Yeah. I mean, this is where there's

920
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:23,920
issues and problems that exist.
>> And at a meeting, we had two residents,

921
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:28,400
the resident in that house and the
person across the street

922
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:33,360
who the gentleman across the street has
had even noted that uh he's had times

923
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:36,159
where there's been flatbeds and that he
can't even get out of his driveway.

924
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,480
So,
>> and what has the owner said?

925
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,719
» I'm sorry.
>> And what has the owner said?

926
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:46,560
I don't think they've gotten any kind of
response,

927
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,800
» but we have contacted them and said we
are going to make

928
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:52,400
» building inspector has been down there
many times. The police

929
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:58,960
» I'm just trying to find a history here.
>> The police chief has been down like this

930
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:04,080
cuz I mean parking feels like an issue,
a hot bed issue like all over Clinton.

931
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,400
» Well, this issue
complain.

932
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:08,800
» Yeah. I mean, I think it was an issue
when you were on the traffic committee.

933
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:12,480
Yeah.
>> Kind of like undecided.

934
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,239
» Yeah. So,
>> any other questions?

935
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:18,159
» Yeah. I got to be honest with you,
Julie. I want I'm kind of I'm saying the

936
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,280
same thing you are. My and I'm okay with
the no parking, but my my and I know

937
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:25,280
this is not for the traffic committee,
but this building particular, the cars

938
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,760
are out on the road, and I don't know
how many cars they're they're permits

939
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:32,159
for, but it seems that they put cars on
the road cuz they're probably over on

940
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:36,800
the cars that should be there. And I
don't know who enforces that. I I really

941
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:38,880
don't. But, you know, it is a problem
because, you know, like say the

942
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,880
residents are coming because they're
parking all out in the road.

943
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:46,560
I I think it's two things. I think one
I'm okay with putting the no parking up,

944
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:49,360
but I'm also think there's going to be
some enforcement as to the number of

945
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:53,040
cars they can have cuz if they got so
many cars they can't even put them on

946
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:56,480
their own lot, then there is a problem.
>> Yeah, that's what you're going to take

947
01:14:54,239 --> 01:15:00,480
up on the uh traffic.
>> Yeah, I guess I I guess I know who's

948
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:04,880
going to do that. Okay.
>> I guess that's what I'm trying to say to

949
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:10,239
you. like if a couple people complain
and just like so where

950
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,800
» but it is a mess. It's I I don't
>> It's not not only that, just the lot

951
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:19,679
itself, but many times when you go on by
there, there's flatbeds, stops the

952
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,640
traffic. I mean, it's and you know, I
mean, it's it's not a good situation

953
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:28,960
down there, and it hasn't been. And
again, um I think when the our public

954
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:32,880
safety people are are saying that, you
know, they're a little frustrated

955
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:39,199
because they've been requesting for
these uh no parking signs for quite a

956
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:45,520
while. Um, I think it's kind of our
obligation to uh to help them out with

957
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:50,320
this situation. And so I guess the only
reason I would vote against this was

958
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:56,640
because it just feels isolated to this
one particular spot versus like a

959
01:15:53,920 --> 01:16:01,760
overall
>> approach to

960
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:04,320
parking issues in
vote the same way I

961
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:08,239
» Well, no, I just I disagree with you
because I think this is why we have a

962
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:14,159
list of all these different issues that
came before the traffic committee and

963
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:18,560
you know, we're trying to um um trying
to solve them and and you know that was

964
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,199
the the ultimate goal and and these are
the requests that we're bringing back to

965
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:27,960
the board to select them.
>> So I guess for them to act on parks in

966
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,960
front of my house just

967
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:37,199
it's a public road. It's a public spot.
I've complained to the traffic committee

968
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:41,360
where I get like a no parking.
>> Well, I think that's I mean people park

969
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:47,440
in front of people's houses, Julie. I
mean, this is uh four businesses that

970
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:52,640
are going on in this one establishment
here and I obviously

971
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:56,480
um there's cars there all the time and
and you know it's

972
01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:01,520
» that illegal.
>> Yeah,

973
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:06,159
» Madam Chair, I'm a year ago or plus or
minus when this came forward once before

974
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:12,400
I was saying exactly what you're saying,
Julie. Uh, I was concerned about the

975
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:17,440
idea that we were focusing on one street
and one problem. We have the same

976
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:21,600
problem all over town. We had it down on
uh Green Street. We had it on I can't

977
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:25,520
think of the name of the street up by
the car wash uh the side street there.

978
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:30,080
» Roma.
>> Roma. Uh,

979
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:35,920
» thank you. we've got this problem and we
and I was opposed to the idea of just

980
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:41,199
taking this one because um we heard more
about it than any of the other problem

981
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:48,560
areas. But I travel that street two or
three times a day. My property is across

982
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:54,400
across High Street from Allen Street and
uh this is not this picture is showing

983
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:59,679
nothing. That parking lot in front of
the blue building is packed. the the

984
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:05,760
cars on top of each other. I don't know
how they satisfy the requirements that

985
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:09,600
Mr. Bailey's going to fix for us. Um,
but it's packed and the street it's a

986
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:14,400
main thoroughare. It's not a side
street. It's not primarily a residential

987
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:19,360
street and there's a lot of traffic on
it and it's very congested down there.

988
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:25,440
there. This is showing a couple of cars
half half off the pavement, half on, but

989
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:29,760
many times I go down and the the street
is it one whole side of the street is

990
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:34,320
blocked by cars all over the place down
there. So, um

991
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:40,239
» So, should this be a licensing issue?
>> It it can be it can be modified by the

992
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:44,480
subcommittee Mr. Bailey's working
diligently on to solve all these

993
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:49,360
problems, but it's it's more than that.
It's it's commercial property and

994
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:54,880
residential property and it's a busy
street and it's very congested. I drive

995
01:18:52,320 --> 01:19:00,000
trucks down that street and it's it's it
is

996
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:05,040
it's burdensome on not just the
residents and not just the uh people on

997
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:09,520
the street. It's that's a primary street
going back and forth from main to high.

998
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:14,080
Um,
so I'd be supportive and certainly open

999
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:17,760
to reconsider if it turns up and makes
other problems like they just turn

1000
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,360
around a park on the other side of the
street, but um

1001
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:25,760
» I mean
get around rules and that's why that's a

1002
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:27,920
point I'm trying to make.
>> Okay, so

1003
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:33,120
» be surprised if that happens.
>> Okay, so just to keep it going, um

1004
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:37,360
there's a motion on the floor. There's a
second. Uh any other discussion? All

1005
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,679
those in favor? I
>> I opposed.

1006
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,360
» Ready?
>> Oh, I thought I voted. Yeah.

1007
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:48,880
» Oh, yeah. I'm good.
>> Right in here. Okay. 3 to one. Motion

1008
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:54,400
carries. Um
uh the next thing was um we had some

1009
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:57,679
concerns for on Burland Road.
>> Um

1010
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:00,560
» Nelson.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1011
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:02,159
» Nelson was taken care of.
>> Okay.

1012
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,880
» Yeah. They just didn't finish that
because of the construction. So, that

1013
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:10,000
should be done from
>> Right. Sand knows what to mean,

1014
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:16,000
» right? Sand Court was taken care of.
>> So, the next one would be um we had some

1015
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:23,520
a concern, the chief had a concern from
um a resident on Merlin Road, but uh you

1016
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:30,320
know, he assured us that uh he does
patrols. He has cruisers there and um

1017
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:37,760
the speed limit is posted. It's 30 m an
hour and uh we will he said he will

1018
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:42,960
continue to uh to do his due diligence
and make sure that they have the um

1019
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:45,760
cruisers up there and and uh make sure
we keep the traffic under control.

1020
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,280
» Sorry,
>> it's a difficult situation.

1021
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:55,640
» Speed. What's the traffic?
>> Speed. It was speed concern or traffic

1022
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:55,640
speed. Yep.

1023
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:07,120
And um then we have our next item was uh
railroad railroad safety council uh info

1024
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:13,199
for Sterling Street crossing. Now we
tried unsuccessfully to get the railroad

1025
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:14,719
to put the um
uh

1026
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:20,560
» the gate or
>> the gates, but the railroad said it's

1027
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:25,760
too expensive. So, if we wanted to do
it, they were saying the town would have

1028
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:32,080
to foot the bill for it. So, um the
superintendent has ordered all new

1029
01:21:28,719 --> 01:21:38,239
signage uh to alert people. As you can
see, there's really not much there right

1030
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:44,640
now. So, um I think we should continue
to I think go after the railroad. And

1031
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:51,040
um
we all know that trains at certain times

1032
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:55,440
come through that particular area and
they're moving pretty quick.

1033
01:21:52,960 --> 01:22:01,600
» They a couple of years ago when they
started the upgrade on on the tracks and

1034
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:06,080
the bridges. Uh I stopped and spoke to
one of the heads of construction right

1035
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:10,880
down there over on that side. There was
a bridge they raised. Um and he said the

1036
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:16,639
reason they were investing that kind of
money and what they were doing was

1037
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:22,480
because they need they want to uh
increase the height of the trains going

1038
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:26,639
through the frequency of the trains and
the speed of the trains. He was crystal

1039
01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:28,400
clear that that bridge right there. See
how they raised it all up.

1040
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,880
» Sure.
>> That's a huge investment on the railroad

1041
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:38,719
track. And it's also that they can move
the trains faster and bigger uh right

1042
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,080
through town. And he was crystal clear
that

1043
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:48,719
» um and I believe in the last couple of
years we've had two or three uh serious

1044
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:52,880
accidents right at that crossing. And in
my experience as a kid growing up and

1045
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:54,480
down, I don't recall there ever being
other ones.

1046
01:22:53,679 --> 01:22:59,760
» Sure.
>> Only since the upgrade and the speed and

1047
01:22:56,639 --> 01:23:06,400
the size of the trains. So, I don't know
how we can

1048
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:11,760
pressure the the railroad uh to put
a better traffic controls down there,

1049
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:15,280
but even just a letter from council. I
know the rail roads are independent,

1050
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:21,360
autonomous.
>> We we wrote we I wrote a letter, you

1051
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:25,120
know, after most recent accidents.
>> That's that's when they came pushed with

1052
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,440
the gays asking to get back together
with the gays.

1053
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:34,239
They're their house as much. They don't
need a gate there. Not withstand the

1054
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:39,040
accident. We even run the higher speeds
through there, but they they block.

1055
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:44,239
» So, we have to wait till someone dies
>> that

1056
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:47,600
» this is a rare it's difficult to
>> do. We have any idea what the cost would

1057
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:51,520
be?
>> I feel

1058
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:55,760
we could find out.
>> Yeah. I mean, I just, you know, is there

1059
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,639
any way that we could say to them, we
don't want you going through this town

1060
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,239
at those kinds of speeds?
>> No.

1061
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:05,440
» Good luck with that.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, we're

1062
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:09,600
caught between a rock and a hard place.
>> So, to your point, I think to your

1063
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,760
point, I think we we can at least look
into what the cost would be. I mean,

1064
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,199
» yeah,
>> I get it. if they don't want to pay for

1065
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,760
it, you know, like you said, you do we
wait, you know, just I don't know what

1066
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,480
it's going to cost, but if it's,
>> you know, we've we spent money on other

1067
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:24,320
things and if it's going to save a life
in in this case, you just wait and I

1068
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:26,960
again maybe it's is and I don't know if
we also put it in, do we get caught for

1069
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,760
the maintenance every year? It may be
just too much, but

1070
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:33,280
» looking at least what it cost probably
wouldn't wouldn't be.

1071
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:37,520
» But I think for the time being, I think
the new sun that's going out, I think

1072
01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:41,679
it's all ordered already, right, Lisa?
>> I believe so.

1073
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:45,040
» Yeah. So, um, at least that's going to
be an effort on the town to to make

1074
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:49,920
sure. So,
>> I'd like to see if we could get a a

1075
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:54,040
motion to approve, uh, the purchase of
those signs, the signage.

1076
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,840
» I'll make that motion. I'll second it.

1077
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,000
» To purchase them without a cost or
>> Well, there's a cost obviously DPW is

1078
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,400
going to
>> Okay. I thought we were talking about

1079
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,440
getting an estimate, but you want to go
right purchasing.

1080
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:15,760
» No, we're going to get an estimate on
>> on the gates.

1081
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:19,920
» Gates, but um the superintendent has
ordered um

1082
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:22,080
» some sign. Okay. I'm just Okay. So,
you're talking about signage,

1083
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,480
» right?
>> Just signage and then get an estimate on

1084
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:26,719
this,
>> right?

1085
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:31,520
» Okay. Sorry. I'm
>> So, this would be So, um my

1086
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:36,080
understanding is bought that we have to
get approval from the board for these

1087
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:38,320
things.
signs

1088
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:45,040
» to put signs put
>> the signs and stuff.

1089
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:49,440
» Correct. So motion was made. Second. Any
other discussion? All those in favor?

1090
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:56,560
» I opposed. It's unanimous.
>> Madam Chair, I'd like to obtain more

1091
01:25:52,159 --> 01:26:01,120
information about that crossing. And
I don't remember when the tunnel got

1092
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:05,840
filled in, but from that date till now,
I I'm curious if there were ever any

1093
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:11,679
other traffic accidents other than the
>> I I'll go back up the last

1094
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:16,239
correspondence. I can I can but I don't
deal with

1095
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:20,239
» but I have a record of that find out the
cost. And we can see from the timeline

1096
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:25,840
if there's been other incidents.
>> I don't think there were any. And and

1097
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:32,639
since they upgraded,
there's been at least two. Um

1098
01:26:29,679 --> 01:26:36,480
I don't know how we railroad, but that
just that information alone would if I

1099
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,199
were their lawyer, I'd be a little
concerned.

1100
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:45,600
» Well, you know what concerns me more
than vehicles? these kids on those

1101
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:49,840
motorized bikes, they're all over town
and they're flying and they're not

1102
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:54,320
they're not very responsible when
they're on those things and I'm I'm

1103
01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:58,560
always fearful down in that area that
god forbid, you know,

1104
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:04,880
but
I mean it's not a good situation, that's

1105
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:10,480
for sure. So, we have the um no parking
situation on Green Street and the board

1106
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:16,400
came up, the traffic committee board
came up with the concept they'd like to

1107
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:23,120
where that corner turns there. um take
away five packing spaces

1108
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:27,199
so that you take away at that corner the
hazard of

1109
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:31,760
I think it was right there the spot
right there to the to the end

1110
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:37,040
» from here to
>> yeah from here to up right where the

1111
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:41,520
turn is.
>> So both sides of the street

1112
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,600
» no that the side where the vehicles are
parked.

1113
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,639
» Okay. I thought I saw a no parking sign
up right there.

1114
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:49,199
» But there is
>> there's one right there.

1115
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:53,600
» Other places for them to park, but they
just choose dot to park.

1116
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:59,600
» But it is very hazardous as you can see.
That's a pretty sharp turn there.

1117
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:02,960
» And it's for a car, it's one thing, but
that service those buildings,

1118
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:10,920
» it makes it a lot harder.
>> Right. So the proposal is to take away

1119
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,920
five parking spaces and put no parking.

1120
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,880
I make that motion.
>> Okay. Is there a second?

1121
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,960
» Second.
>> Any discussion? All those in favor?

1122
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:28,239
» I
>> opposed. It's unanimous.

1123
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:32,880
And also at the same area, um they had
as you can see it right there. What's

1124
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:39,600
happening? It's like
those uh crosswalks right there. What

1125
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:45,760
happens is people when they're moving in
or they're moving out, they have their,

1126
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:51,120
you know, moving vans there and there's
no way you can get by them. So, it's

1127
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:58,679
it's really become a hazard there. So,
the recommendation was to put signage on

1128
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,679
the sides of the sidewalks

1129
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:05,199
» that says what? So
>> remove these remove them from the middle

1130
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:09,040
» and just put them
>> on the sides

1131
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:12,000
» because it's really becoming a parking
um nightmare. I mean a traffic

1132
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,360
nightmare.
>> So like forever or just during when

1133
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,000
people move.
>> Well, no. We'd like to do it. I mean

1134
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:20,880
because you can't they're
>> not.

1135
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,040
» Yeah. They're in and out all the time as
people.

1136
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:28,480
» Okay. So that's consistently,
>> you know, and then you've got people

1137
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:31,600
dropping off things and so uh so that's
the recommendation just to put them on

1138
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:35,920
the side as opposed to in the middle of
the road.

1139
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:37,760
» That's a motion, Madam Chair.
>> Is there a second?

1140
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:44,000
» Second.
>> Any discussion? All those in favor?

1141
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:50,400
» Opposed? It's unanimous. And then we had
a request for additional street lights

1142
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:56,080
on Lancaster Road. And then um well
we'll go that one first. So the chief

1143
01:29:53,120 --> 01:30:03,600
has had asked the uh traffic committee
to hold off on it until he did more

1144
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:08,400
patrols because um Mr. Budrey said that
and see the problem is to some of that

1145
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:14,800
land is Bolton property
but um he said that every other pole has

1146
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:20,480
a street light. So, the chief said that
he'd like to be able to send some

1147
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:25,120
patrols at night and make an evaluation
and then on our next traffic meeting,

1148
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:30,480
which we have set um dates that we're
going to meet every quarter. So, um

1149
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:37,520
we're going to
just hold off on it. And then the next

1150
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:41,840
one was um uh speed limit signs which
have been installed.

1151
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:48,560
So, um
we'll we'll hope and I guess the chief

1152
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:55,440
as well is going to make sure that um
they're working. So,

1153
01:30:52,159 --> 01:31:00,239
and the next one was um
traffic signal to slow traffic at the

1154
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:06,560
intersection of Hamilton Street and East
Street. Uh so what they would like to do

1155
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:10,560
is to if you make that turn they'd like
to put arrows

1156
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:16,719
to
um make them aware that that turn is

1157
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:23,199
there a sharp turn right there.
That was the solution I came up with.

1158
01:31:20,719 --> 01:31:26,239
It's a tough situation.
>> Um

1159
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:30,080
» like the big ones.
>> The problem being what people drive

1160
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:34,560
right through into the driveway.
>> Yeah. Well,

1161
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:40,320
» who's seems that is that people live
there? Yeah. Concerned about it.

1162
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:44,719
» Well, yeah, that was Yeah, concerns that
>> perhaps I would think it must be that

1163
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:51,520
house right there. But, um, the only
solution and viable solution was to put

1164
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:55,679
the arrow signs so that people realize
that they've got to slow down and that

1165
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:58,719
turn is coming up.
>> Okay.

1166
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:01,040
» Try anything, you know. So,
>> yep.

1167
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,719
» What's the pleasure of the board?
>> Move to authorize the installation of

1168
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:10,960
directional arrows.
>> I'll second 345 East Street.

1169
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:15,360
» Any other discussion? All those in
favor?

1170
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:19,520
» I oppos. It's unanimous.
And uh

1171
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:26,080
the next two issues are kind of the
same. It was um commercial vehicles

1172
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:30,800
parked in R1 and R2 zones and trailers
parked in the street. And it's kind of a

1173
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:36,639
tough situation because you're talking
about if it was just like a small van,

1174
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:40,159
say if a person had a company or a
business, you know, when you have those

1175
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:46,800
small vans and stuff, you have to park
them somewhere. And um the chief uh

1176
01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:53,120
police chief had said that the only
thing that you could do uh would be to

1177
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:57,800
go to town meeting and have a
>> an article. Yeah. The chief talle

1178
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:09,600
» Yeah.
>> that you can't park commercial vehicles

1179
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:13,520
on private property.
>> No. on the side of the road. You talking

1180
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:17,199
about down,
>> right?

1181
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:21,520
» They park down there. The chief saying
now he has no authority to do anything

1182
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:24,400
about that.
>> But you

1183
01:33:23,679 --> 01:33:30,960
research,
>> but it's okay to park private vehicles

1184
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:38,320
on the street in those areas.
I'm hypothetically uh if if you're a

1185
01:33:34,639 --> 01:33:40,719
contractor, a small twoman band, uh and
you own a pickup truck with commercial

1186
01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:43,040
plates.
>> Yeah.

1187
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:47,760
» You can't park in front of your house,
but your neighbor can.

1188
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:52,320
» No, I'm just talking He's just talking
like he's more talking the trailer. You

1189
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:58,000
can't leave not the not the trailer
itself, you know, 18. You can't leave a

1190
01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:03,199
trailer on the side the side of the road
without the cap.

1191
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:08,560
That's that was mine. We only had one
conversation.

1192
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:12,000
» I guess we're not we're not proposing
taking action right now, right?

1193
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:15,159
» No, I don't know. This was just to to
bring up

1194
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,520
» one conversation. So, I have no idea.
Yeah, I'm thinking about landscapers

1195
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:25,520
with
>> land that came up in the discussion as

1196
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:30,480
well that you know how can you prohibit
you know if it's just a a small I mean I

1197
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:35,120
know there's one truck in town it's I
think the sign on signage on the side

1198
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:43,120
says pest control and it's like one of
those small van vans. Okay. So, I mean,

1199
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:47,520
» and we're talking we my conversation
with the Jeep was minus wasn't about

1200
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,280
that. It was like the long tractor
trailer.

1201
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:54,639
» Yeah. Just
>> not not a small delivery construction.

1202
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:58,560
» Well, that's that wasn't the request.
The request was anonymous.

1203
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:03,760
» Yeah. And I'll I mean if you want to
read a synopsis, it's large work vans,

1204
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:08,719
trailers, landscaping vehicles, and
other commercial vehicles um can

1205
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:14,000
obstruct sight lines and reduce
available parking for residents and and

1206
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:18,000
noise. So it wasn't tractor trailers. It
was more

1207
01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:22,800
» smaller type of commercial plates that
were parking on the street. And I think

1208
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:28,000
the chief said, you know, there's no
real way to differentiate those from a

1209
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:32,639
regular passenger.
>> Yeah.

1210
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:38,719
» I'm talking about just
not those are just like any other

1211
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:44,280
» specifically it was Grove, Beacon,
Richmond, Summit Park, and Winter as

1212
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,280
examples.

1213
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,560
Okay.
>> We still have We still have the one on

1214
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:51,280
for Church Street. I mean for School
Street, right?

1215
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,880
Yes.
>> Okay.

1216
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:58,960
» Yeah.
>> And Oak Street.

1217
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:02,719
» Yeah. We didn't um The only thing I
remember talking about Oak Street where

1218
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:05,199
they were going to put the sign from the
corner of Oaken Crown.

1219
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:11,120
» Yeah. We're going to
>> sing. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

1220
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:15,520
» I forgot you had your slideshow.
>> There it is. There it is. It's

1221
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:22,000
» ready to go. So, the recommendation was
to put a no parking sign

1222
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:25,040
right in that area right over here on
the side here.

1223
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:28,000
Um,
>> from the sidewalk I mean from the

1224
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,199
crosswalk
>> from the crosswalk right there. Yeah.

1225
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:36,000
» Which is what the chief said from the
corner you can't park 20 ft anyway.

1226
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:40,000
» So, it was just to remind you cuz that
20 ft would include the crosswalk. So,

1227
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,960
just remind people not to and and that
we solve it.

1228
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:47,440
» Yeah. But you can't. So they just put
that one parking sign up to the here to

1229
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:51,440
corner from 20 ft back and there you go.
>> It' be like sign city soon.

1230
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:56,159
» Yeah.
>> Well, you know this the traffic around

1231
01:36:53,760 --> 01:37:00,400
town is horrendous. I mean is
>> How do we normally do it to a corner? Do

1232
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:05,760
we normally just paint?
>> Like didn't we just do this over here on

1233
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:08,639
» Was it paint and a sign?
>> I don't know. Can we just do it on

1234
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,960
school street with that new
>> Yeah,

1235
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:15,840
» I think the sign was on the building.
>> Sign on the building.

1236
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:17,119
» I thought the 20 ft from the corner was
sort of a lot.

1237
01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:21,280
» It is,
>> right? That's what I thought. Yeah.

1238
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:26,480
» I think it's just a reminder.
>> Parking there all the time.

1239
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:31,360
» So, what do you take them?
>> That's what I would expect.

1240
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:36,320
» I would I think the police need a
signed.

1241
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:40,840
It's just like people get sign blind
like throwing signs everywhere.

1242
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:47,840
» So anyways, that that was the
recommendation of the traffic committee

1243
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:51,679
was to put a new parking sign would be
at 168 Oak.

1244
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:54,560
» So 20 ft from the corner, right?
>> Corner. Yeah.

1245
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,560
» Motion to approve the traffic committee
recommendation.

1246
01:37:55,679 --> 01:38:02,000
» Second.
>> Any discussion? All those in favor?

1247
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:05,679
» I I
Julie, do you vote I? Yes.

1248
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:10,159
» And what was the other one?
>> School street from the the corner up up

1249
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:13,440
to
>> the corner of school in Union up to

1250
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:18,000
school in um
>> Yeah, I don't have that on here.

1251
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:24,920
» Bernie, but they have it um
>> do we have it up there? Um

1252
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,920
» yeah, there it is.

1253
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:33,560
» Took a wrong turn. Bernie,
>> I think I've ever been there.

1254
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,560
» I went through THE PARKING LOT.

1255
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:40,360
I'M LIKE, IS THAT a question?

1256
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:45,280
» You quit talking.
>> I know. Jeez, Lisa. I know you're

1257
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:49,280
speedy.
>> Yeah. So, Julie, they did paint it all

1258
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:52,639
the way up up to where the the driveway
is behind the building, but they didn't

1259
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:55,440
go all the way up to the to uh
>> is that Pleasant Street?

1260
01:38:53,760 --> 01:39:00,239
» Yeah, it is.
>> So, the the traffic committee was to do

1261
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:03,679
I think it was just one side. I'm not
sure if it was both sides or one, but up

1262
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:06,639
to Pleasant Street because when the
trucks come down off the Union, they

1263
01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:09,280
can't make that corner and then they
can't get the corner to the back part of

1264
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:14,360
the building where the loading docks
are.

1265
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,360
» Mhm.

1266
01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:22,000
» I mean, that's that's what
>> Yeah. So, the request was to put the to

1267
01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:27,920
follow the um no parking up to the top
of the street to Pleasant Street, right?

1268
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:31,040
» For the big trucks coming through.
>> Yeah. Because it

1269
01:39:29,119 --> 01:39:34,480
» see now that that picture is taken
before they fixed the sidewalk. So they

1270
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:37,840
can't park on the sidewalk. So now
they're out in the road

1271
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:41,040
» just a little bit on the left is to turn
into get behind the building. I know

1272
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,520
it's it's it's tough.
>> This is like just cherrypicking

1273
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:50,960
different spots all over and just
>> Well, you have to kind of determine

1274
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:54,960
where you're having real traffic issues
and uh

1275
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:58,400
» and they I mean this is a new
development, correct?

1276
01:39:56,719 --> 01:40:02,400
Yeah. And they have parking in the back.
They just too just hard. There already

1277
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,000
been an accident there.
>> Yeah.

1278
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:06,320
» Where the car truck couldn't get around
the corner.

1279
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,880
» That's It doesn't look like
>> I mean if the trucks can't get in.

1280
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,639
Sorry, Bill. Don't mean to interrupt
you. My apologies. Go ahead. Go ahead.

1281
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:13,840
No. Fine.
>> No, I'm just saying like Yeah. If

1282
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:18,480
there's trucks coming in, they can't
turn. Like I

1283
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:22,320
» am kind of for that, not just random
kind of

1284
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:26,400
» You don't like this anymore? No. I
>> When the trucks are coming this way,

1285
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:30,800
they
Lisa could show us. Uh,

1286
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:34,719
» Bernie, didn't the truck get stuck
there? Is that why this came out?

1287
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:37,119
» Oh, no. One hit car is right there on
the right hand side.

1288
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:41,840
» If you go through under the t under the
bridge,

1289
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:43,920
» there's the entryway into the parking
lot. Right. Right up there where the

1290
01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:46,719
arrow is.
>> Yeah.

1291
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:50,960
» Right there. That doesn't look
>> like a difficult corner for them to

1292
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:55,679
make, but it really is. The trucks are
are twisted,

1293
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:58,639
tip, not tipping over, but it's a real
tough corner for 40 foot.

1294
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,280
» It does look
>> truck to make it through into that

1295
01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:07,560
corner
>> and cars packed all over the place don't

1296
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,560
make it any easier.

1297
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:16,800
I would be like think because of that
like the safety the the businesses

1298
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:20,800
around there if they can't kind of
>> because if you picture those cars on the

1299
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:24,159
left parking out on the street now
>> it makes it a lot

1300
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:31,040
» Yeah. I mean these are the repercussions
of

1301
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:35,840
» the traces made by certain boards.
>> So the what's the pleasure of the board

1302
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:39,360
that uh support the request for the no
parking signs? Can we just clarify exam?

1303
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:42,480
What is it from?
>> It's

1304
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:46,639
» Union all the way to Pleasant
>> right

1305
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:49,760
» on the right side or on both sides?
>> I thought it was on both sides.

1306
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:53,280
» I think they did say both. I thought I
would go with one, but they said just to

1307
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:56,400
Bill's point then just put them all on
the other side of the road in the same

1308
01:41:54,560 --> 01:42:01,280
in the sidewalk. So both sides.
>> So it' be right there Jo right where the

1309
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:04,960
fence is
where where it ends right there.

1310
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:08,239
» Mhm.
I do feel like that is kind of like a

1311
01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:11,920
dangerous
patch of route between Pleasant Street

1312
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:17,840
turning onto it, turning off of it,
turning into there. So that's why I

1313
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:21,520
would be in favor based on the trucks.
>> Madam Chair, I make a motion that we

1314
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:28,960
approve the traffic committee
recommendation to

1315
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:32,159
buy parking on School Street from
um Union Street to Pleasant Street.

1316
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:35,520
» Second.
>> Second. Any discussion? All those in

1317
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:42,360
favor?
>> I

1318
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:42,360
» opposed. Unanimous. Okay,

1319
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:51,840
that's it. I believe
have a committee. Um,

1320
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:57,600
committee reports. Do we Lisa? Thank you
so much. This is fantastic. I think it's

1321
01:42:54,080 --> 01:43:01,520
very helpful to the board and obviously
to the people out there. They know what

1322
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:04,760
we're talking about now. So what do you
think Bob?

1323
01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:13,159
» Presentation great to see it.
>> Yeah.

1324
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:13,159
I didn't even know I know

1325
01:43:14,719 --> 01:43:20,000
» don't take that turn.
>> Thank you very much. That was so

1326
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:26,719
helpful.
>> Yeah. Um hopefully this is what will

1327
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:30,800
continue in the future if Lisa is still
willing to do it.

1328
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,000
I don't know. She's just not saying
anything.

1329
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:36,560
» No, she's was looking too.
>> You need to move me to the beginning of

1330
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:41,360
the meeting.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

1331
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:46,480
» Okay. Uh committee reports. Does anybody
have anything? Um I I'm not on the

1332
01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:53,119
committee, but I would like to uh say
that I hope this weekend is it looks

1333
01:43:49,920 --> 01:44:00,000
like great weather for old home day and
uh we're so proud of the fact that uh

1334
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:03,920
Proxim Ruck has taken it on and uh we
wish them all the very best this weekend

1335
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:09,360
and hope many many people come out and
it's very successful for them.

1336
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:15,199
Madam Chair, under committee reports,
it's not really a report, but I'd like

1337
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:18,320
to renew a request to establish uh
government affairs subcommittee.

1338
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:21,040
» Sure.
>> Thank you.

1339
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:24,080
» Would you like to serve on that?
>> Yeah, absolutely.

1340
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:28,000
» Okay. Would you like to do the
committee? Put the committee together?

1341
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:34,239
» I'd be very happy to do that.
>> Okay, that's your assignment.

1342
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:38,960
» Thank you. Finally putting me to work.
>> Okay. committee announcements. You've

1343
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:46,080
already given us that, Karen. Thank you
very much. And we hope that uh a lot of

1344
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:52,239
people do come out for that
on the 11th.

1345
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:55,679
That's at 8:30, right? Yep. 8:30.
>> Yes.

1346
01:44:54,000 --> 01:45:01,119
» All right. So, we'll be going into
executive session and when we come out,

1347
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:06,800
it'll just be to adjourn. And so I'll
accept the motion to go into

1348
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:12,159
executive session.
>> So move

1349
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:16,080
» under chapter 3A section 21A.
>> Second

1350
01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:19,520
» to apply with the open meeting law. And
uh it recalls a roll call.

1351
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,440
» Brendan Bailey I.
>> Bill Connley I.

1352
01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:27,360
» Mary Dickot I.
>> Julie Pruz I. And then um when we come

1353
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:32,639
back out, we'll be going into executive
session

1354
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:38,320
under um Mass General laws 38 section
21A for the purpose to conduct executive

1355
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:45,199
collective bargaining sessions with the
uh Clinton uh Department of Public

1356
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:50,920
Works. Um roll call required.
>> Brenda Bailey. I Bill Connley. I

1357
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:50,920
» Dickot I.

1358
01:45:51,920 --> 01:46:02,440
» Oh, Julie P. Sorry. So, we'll be going
out, coming in, going out, coming in.

1359
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:02,440
So, we are now in executive session.