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It is 630. We'll call the
meeting of the Clinton Township

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Board to order. Will everyone
please rise for the Pledge of

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Allegiance?

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I pledge allegiance.

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To the flag of the United
States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands?

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One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Roll call. Please, miss Meltzer
here.

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Trustee Wade.

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Trustee Matuzak here.

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Trustee Kress.

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Present.

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Uh, supervisor Gieleghem here.

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Trustee King present. Treasurer
Aiello present.

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Clerk Meltzer here.

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That brings us to, um, approval
of the agenda. Miss Meltzer,

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looks like we have a total of
nine items. Uh. Any changes?

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No changes. I'll make a motion
to approve as presented.

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I'll support.

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There you go. Yeah. Just to let
folks know we have a new

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system. We forget to turn our
mics on. No. It's on. We not

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actually have to turn them on.

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So, um, so we have a motion. Is
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approve the agenda? Yes. Okay.

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Moved in and supported. Um, a
roll call, please.

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Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello.

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Yes.

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Trustee Wade. Yes. Trustee
Matuzak. Yes. Trustee Kress.

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Yes. Supervisor. Gieleghem.

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Yes. Trustee. King. Yes. Motion
passes.

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Okay. Item number one. The
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there's a total of eight items.

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Move.

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Adoption of the consent agenda
as printed.

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All support.

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Moved and supported any
discussion. Roll call please.

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Trustee Matuzak. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello. Yes. Trustee Wade. Yes.

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Trustee Kress. Yes. Supervisor.

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Gieleghem.

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Yes.

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Trustee. King. Yes. Clerk
Meltzer. Yes. Motion passes.

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Item number two. Introduction
of applicant for appointment to

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the Clinton Macomb Public
Library Board. Uh, Miss most.

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Dear board members, there is
one opening on the Clinton

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Macomb Library Board of
Trustees. The partial term

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expires April 30th, 2028.

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Attached for your review are
the applicants. Are the

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applications for the following
applicants appointment can

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Kress Julius Arcona, Jill
Shackelford. Per the policy

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guidelines and invitation has
been extended to the applicants

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to attend the September 8th,
2026 board meeting, where an

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opportunity will be given to
make a three minute

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introduction. Thank you for
your attention in this matter.

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Sincerely, Paul Gieleghem,
supervisor.

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Okay. Uh, yeah. It's my
understanding all three of the

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applicants are here this
evening. Um, so, uh, in any

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order you'd like, um, I can
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three minutes.

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I think we have an order of
Kress sarcoma and Shackelford.

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Which appears to be
alphabetical, so we'll stick

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with that. Ken, you're up.

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Good evening. I was going to
let the ladies go first, but,

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uh. Good evening, Township
supervisor. Uh, trustee.

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Trustees, treasurer and clerk.

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My name is Ken Kress. I live at
39825 East River Court in

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Clinton Township. Of course.

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And I'm asking for your
appointment to the Clinton

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Township Public Library Board
as the Clinton Township

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representative. This
appointment would replace

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Cheryl Cannon, who was very
instrumental in establishing

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this library. A little about my
background and why I would

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appreciate your approval to
join this board. My background

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is in education, where I was a
teacher for 28 years. I was a

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business marketing and US
history teacher. I was also the

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National Honor Society advisor
for 25 years, and I was also

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the senior class sponsor. When
I retired from teaching in

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2017, I needed something to do.

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Or at least my wife told me I
better find something to do. So

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living a quarter mile from the
main branch, I heard they were

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hiring a part time facilities,
and at the time it was a pretty

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impressive title. You were the
assistant to the director of

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facilities for the Clinton,
Clinton Macomb Public Library.

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Now I experience in facilities
was limited to what I knew in

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maintaining my own home. But
what I did have was a good and

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work ethic that enabled me to
learn and excel in this

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position. I changed light
bulbs, climbed tall ladders,

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painted, cleaned lavatories,
vomit. I'm not proud of that,

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but I kept Thomas the train
running. I cleaned up the

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grounds and I handled all the
aspects related to running the

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upkeep of three different
buildings North, south, and the

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main branch. Each of these
buildings has its own

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personality, and the staff who
work there and the clients they

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serve. I have dealt with
landscapers, snow, flowers,

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trash haulers, recyclers and
businesses of all kinds. I can

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restart an HVAC system and I
can get elevators running

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again. I set up for programs
from concerts to blood drives

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to condo meetings and of
course, the annual state of the

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township. After six and a half
years in this position, with

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the final six months, I was the
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And then I retired. People
said, oh, are you retiring? I

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said, no, I've already retired.

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This was just part time. A year
after leaving, I was called

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back to help solve an issue at
our South branch, where I

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worked an additional six months
with the issue, which is no

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longer an issue. So I guess we
were successful. Why should I

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be appointed to the library
board? Because I have a

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commitment to this library. The
branches and the populations

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that they serve for both
Clinton Township and Macomb

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Township. If you drive by any
of the branches, you will see

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residents reading books,
participating in children's

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programming, attending a
presentation, or just using a

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room to study.

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Ken, we're we're past three.

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I'm sorry. So with the
indulgence of the board, we'll

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ask you to wrap up.

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I'm sorry. I will really in the
summer, we have a cooling

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center, and in the winter we
have heating. I worked

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extensively with Larry Neal and
the library director, and I

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already know many of their
current board members. Um, so I

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should be able to work with
them. And again, this library

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is an important component of
our library or of our township,

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and I hope to keep it that way.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ken.

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I apologize for going over.

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No worries. No worries. Mr.

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Arcona.

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Good evening and thank you for
this. Good evening. Second, and

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thank you all for this
opportunity to introduce myself

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to the board. My name is Julie
Savona. Um, and I'm really

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excited to be considered for
the Clinton Macomb Library

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Board of Trustees. Uh,
throughout my life, libraries

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have played a significant role.

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As a kid, my family visited
libraries all the time. In high

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school, I worked for the Fraser
library. Um, and a fun fact

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when I left the library, they
replaced me with my mother, who

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ended up retiring from the
library 17 years later. And

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another fun fact is my daughter
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Um, so it kind of runs in our
blood. Uh, after high school, I

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left my job at the library to
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Um, spending the next 25 years
working at a studio and then

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running my own business, um,
while raising my family in

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Clinton Township, where I've
been a residence for the last

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12 years. Um, as a parent, I
continued the effort that my

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mom started and that I made
sure that libraries played a

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big role in my family's lives,
just as they had in mind. I'm

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proud to say that the Clinton
Macomb Public main branch is my

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home library, as my kids refer
to it. Um, we visit all types

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of libraries year round, but,
um, I remember walking through

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the main branch with my kids
when they were little, and we

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all just looked around in awe
of all the resources and things

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that were offered to us during
these years. I was also an

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active member of their school
PTO and helped develop PBIs

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programs, ran events, raised
money, and was an active part

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of improving services we
provided to the school and the

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teachers. In 2020, I started
working for the City of

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Sterling Heights in their Parks
and Recreation department. Um,

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where? There I fell in love
again with working with the

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local community. I spent the
the next four years helping

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launch their new community
center, and then the last two

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years at their senior center.

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And that brings us to today,
uh, when I saw an opening on

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the board, I jumped at the
chance to be a part of it. I

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believe now more than ever,
that libraries need to be

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protected from budget cuts and
closures. I'm excited about the

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opportunity to be part of a
board that can help a library

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run more efficiently and
provide new and improved

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procedures and environments to
the residents in the Clinton

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Macomb area. Throughout my time
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it was clear that problem
solving, especially when a

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community is involved, it's not
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And there and that's where
boards like this are vital to

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making an impact. I would love
the chance to serve on the

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board to help grow and maintain
this amazing resource for

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others in and beyond our
community, and thank you for

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allowing me this time to
introduce myself, and I really

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appreciate appreciate your
consideration. Thank you.

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Thank you, thank.

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You, thank you so much. And
Miss Shackelford.

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Good evening. Thank you,
Township, for allowing me to

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present myself and to introduce
myself to you. My name is Jill

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Shackelford. I am a resident of
Clinton Township now, but grew

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up in Macomb. A graduate of
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Um, after high school, I went
to college at Florida A&M

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University in Tallahassee,
Florida, where I earned my

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Doctor of Pharmacy degree. So
currently I'm practicing as a

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pharmacist with Walgreens. Um,
I've always is a child of

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educators who retired from the
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I grew up going to the Mount
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libraries have always been a
part of my history, a part of

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who I am. I love reading, um,
and now that I have children of

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my own, everywhere that we've
been, I, we were in Florida for

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a long time. We were in Boston
for a long time. But everywhere

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I've been, we've always gone to
the library. So I believe in

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the programs. I believe in the
opportunities. I believe that

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what it prevents for for the
community and for for families

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to a place for them to go to, a
place for them to go, places

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for them to grow, um, for kids
to learn, for them to get

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tutoring services, um, provide
services for um individuals

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looking for employment. So the
library provides a lot of

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opportunities. So when I saw
this opening for the board, um,

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I thought, well, hey, why why
not put myself out there? Why

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not, you know, allow myself to
give back to the community and

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to, um, give my resources,
which, you know, may not be an

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education background, but I
mean, with pharmacy, we deal

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with laws, we deal with
regulations. So there's a lot

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of different things that I feel
like I can bring to the table.

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So, um, I appreciate this
opportunity. I was still always

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support our library, still
bring my family there with my

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kids there. Um, and work with
all the programs and

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opportunities that that it
gives. So I'm just excited to

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possibly have this opportunity
to serve on the board and to

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continue to operate, um, this
fine establishment for our

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community. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Miss Shackelford.

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So, uh, board members, um, this
is a great problem to have, but

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it is no doubt a problem
because it is going to be a

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very difficult decision to make
this appointment. Um, the

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policy of the board is to hear
from the applicants, um, at a

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meeting and make the subsequent
appointment at the following

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meeting. So, uh, we appreciate
your interest. We appreciate

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your, um, speaking tonight,
telling us a little bit about

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yourselves and, um, and, of
course, your interest in

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serving our community as a
member of the board for the

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library. Thank you. Appreciate
it. Motion to receive and file

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the, uh, uh, comments.

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I'll make that motion a
receiving file.

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I'll second.

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That..

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Any further discussion? Roll
call, please.

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Treasurer Aiello.

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Yes.

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Trustee Kress. Yes. Trustee.

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Wade. Yes. Trustee Matuzak.

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Yes. Supervisor. Gieleghem.

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Yes. Trustee. King. Yes. Clerk
Meltzer. Yes. Motion passes.

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Okay.

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And that brings us to, uh, item
number three, a recommendation

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for appointment of applicant to
the EDC.

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There are three terms open on
the Economic Development

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Corporation. There is one full
term that will expire July

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10th, 2029, and two partial
terms, one expiring July 10th,

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2027 and one expiring July
10th, 2028. The committee holds

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terms of six years in adherence
to Michigan statute. The

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supervisor brings forth the
applicant listed below for

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introduction and approval. The
appointment, William Shoemaker,

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term July 10th, 2029. The
application for appointment is

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attached for a year. Review for
policy guidelines and

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invitation has been extended to
the applicant to attend the

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September 8th, 2026 board
meeting, where an opportunity

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will be given three minutes to
address the board. Thank you

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for your time and consideration
this matter. Sincerely, Paul

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Gieleghem, supervisor.

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Okay, Will. Um, same as before
with the last agenda item.

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Three minutes to introduce
yourself to the board.

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Okay.

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Well.

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Thank you for having me here
today. And good evening. Thank

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you for giving me the
opportunity to officially

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introduce myself. My name is
William Shoemaker, and I'm

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excited to consider for the
Economic Development Committee

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because I profoundly care for
the well-being and integrity of

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our community. I've a master's
in Public Administration

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student at Oakland University
with a keen interest in serving

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and responsible steward and
local government. I also work

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as a security professional at
PNC Corporate Office in Troy,

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Michigan. Through my
occupation, I've had the

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privilege of working alongside
banking executives who not only

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manage the financials of
businesses and individuals, but

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also give back to the community
through nonprofits and

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philanthropic initiatives.

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Additionally, my past work at
the Warren Ascension Hospital

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as a volunteer and an air
registration staff member has

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acutely made present to me my
inherent duty to stand for

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those who cannot stand for
themselves. As an aspiring MBA

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student who is about to
graduate this upcoming

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December, I would love to do
the same right here in our

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community. I firmly believe
that solidarity through shared

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collaboration, a willingness to
listen, and the ability to see

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others perspectives, especially
in tough situations, and

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working towards a compelling
vision that delivers impactful

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results in the community,
establishes the bedrock of

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change that is trust. As a
father and as somebody who has

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worked my hands in construction
and has spent years studying

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public administration and
healthcare related coursework,

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mostly pre-medical studies,
while trying to become a

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doctor. At one point, I have
developed a deep passion for

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the core values of responsible
leadership a resilient hard

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work ethic, and the academic
acumen to think critically and

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strategically. I would love to
use my experience in

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leadership, collaborative
teamwork, and problem solving

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to faithfully serve our beloved
community with integrity,

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professionalism, creativity,
and hard work. Thank you for

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taking the time to consider me.

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I would be very excited to
serve here at Clinton Township.

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Thank you.

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Thank you all.

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Okay.

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Um, so, uh, I, I want to
mention, um, the positions of

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committees are posted on the
website. Um, we are seeking a

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lot of different community
members that have the interest

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in presenting their expertise
and their experience. Uh, we

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greatly appreciate the work
that our committees do. And,

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um, this one happens to have
more openings than applicants

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that have applied. So when the
staff alerted me to Will's

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application, um, I didn't know
who he was. Uh, considering

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this is a supervisor's
appointment with, uh, the

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board, uh, and can, uh, excuse
me, board confirmation. Um, uh,

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I after the conversation, I was
glad to, uh, submit him for

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appointment. Uh, so we can, uh,
postpone this at the pleasure

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of the board until the next
meeting. Or we could move

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forward with the appointment
this evening. Uh, miss Meltzer.

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Um, I think we've heard an
impressive, uh, explanation of

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who he is. Background. And at
this time, I'd be open to

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making a motion to appoint him
tonight at.

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The meeting. Okay.

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And I would note that his
background check is included in

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the packet.

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Okay.

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So motion and support. Um, any
further discussion? Roll call.

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Please. To receive the letter
and to approve the appointment

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of Mr. William Shoemaker to the
EDC until July 10th of 2029.

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Thank you, Miss Meltzer.

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Okay.

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Did you say.

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Roll call? Roll call. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry.

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Uh Meltzer. Clerk Meltzer. Yes.

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Trustee Kress.

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Yes.

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Trustee. Wade.

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Yes.

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Trustee Matuzak.

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Yes.

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Supervisor. Gieleghem.

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Yes.

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Trustee King. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello. Yes.

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Motion passes. Okay.

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Congratulations.

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Yes.

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And board members. Um, I was
remiss. Um, wanted to let you

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know before we move on to the
next agenda item. We're joined

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this evening by Miss Lisa
Wilson, who is the elected

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official, uh, for Clinton Dale
Community Schools, one of their

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board members. And we
appreciate her attendance in

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the audience tonight.

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Very much.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Uh, that brings us to, uh, item
number four. Uh, presentation

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of the audited financial
statements in which we have

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our, um, auditing firm from
Plante Moran. Uh, as well as

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our accounting and finance
team. So, uh, without, uh, Miss

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Meltzer, I don't think we have
a letter. I think we just have

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the packet. Right.

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So.

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Yeah, we can. I mean, they can
proceed. I generally they start

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their presentation.

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I think we can just. Yep. Move
forward.

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Unless you want.

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Me a gentleman. You have the
floor.

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Great.

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Good evening. Very happy to be
here. Ali Hijazi, partner with

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Plant Moran. Uh, with me here
today is Cameron Lavergne. Uh,

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audit manager, uh, on the
audit. And we're here to

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present the results for the
township's March 31st, 2026,

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uh, audits. Uh, we have
prepared a slide deck to walk

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through the summary of the the
results, but just thought I'd

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provide a few opening comments
before we jump into the the

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details of the presentation. So
our audit consists of really

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three audits. We audit the
township's financial

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statements, we audit your
compliance with your federal

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spending, and we audit the
separately issued financial

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statements for the police and
fire pension plan. So those are

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the that's the scope of our
work. And I get the pleasure of,

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uh, communicating that there
are clean, unmodified opinions

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on all of the audits that we've
conducted, which is exactly

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what you want to see from your
external audit firm. It means

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the financial statements that
we've audited are presented in

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accordance with the
requirements of the generally

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accepted accounting principles.

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It means that you've complied
with your federal spending that

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we audited, and really is the
highest level of assurance that

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we can issue in these audits.

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So it's exactly what you want
to see from your external, um,

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auditors. Before I turn it over
to Cameron to walk through some

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of the financial highlights, I
did want to just take a moment

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to thank the Township board for
your partnership. The staff,

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especially the finance, um,
department and their

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leadership. And, uh, ushering
this audit process from start

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to finish, but also the
participation of all the

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township's department heads,
employees, staff, um, the

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departments of the three full
time elected officials. It's a

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very collaborative, transparent
process, and we appreciate the

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collaboration. You know, we we
do our best to kind of, uh,

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throw you off your, your game.

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But, uh, you know, you don't
hold that against us. So we

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really appreciate it. And with
that, I'll turn it over to

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Cameron to walk through the
financial results.

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Thanks, Ali. As Ali mentioned,
I'll be walking through the the

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detailed slides here. So let me
scroll down to our next one.

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Um, this slide covers the
trends in general. General fund

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revenue from 2025 to 2026. And
then also presents budgeted

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amounts for the next four
years. What you'll note based

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on this slide is that there is
a decrease in total revenue

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from 2025 to 2026. Um, that was
largely driven by that other

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category there, that orange one
at the bottom, that category

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includes such items as cable
franchise fees, inspection fees

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and things of similar nature.

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You'll note that property tax
revenue increased from the

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prior year from about 3.1
million to 3.2 million, um,

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consistent with a 5% increase
year over year. And you'll

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notice a projected increase
from 2027 to 2030. In a similar

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fashion, um, another source of
revenue that I'll highlight

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here, uh, state sources, which
includes your state shared

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revenue payments, uh, increased
from 2025 to 2026. Uh, though

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you'll note a projected
decrease over the next four

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years, highlighting some state
budgetary, uh, measure changes

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that are anticipated here in
the next few years. The next

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slide highlights the general
fund expenditures. So trends

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from 2025 all the way to 2030
projected. You'll see an

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increase in expenditures from
21.4 million to 21.9 million

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from 2025 to 2026. And a slight
projected increase in the 2027

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budget year. Uh, largely driven
by an increase in expenditures

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in the clerk's department with
an upcoming, um, congressional

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election that is going to
require some work there. Um,

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you'll also notice a projected
decrease in expenditures from

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2028 to 2030, um, largely due
to the, um, retiree health care

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and MERS pension plan, uh,
contributions beginning to

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decrease in that time frame.

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Uh, moving on to this slide,
which covers the general fund

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fund balance, the equity of the
general fund, uh, you'll notice

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that there was an increase to
the fund balance, um, from 2025

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to 2026. Um, you'll also
notice, um, a projected

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decrease over the next few
years that's largely, uh, I

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mean, it is a relationship
between revenues and

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expenditures. So with revenues
being less than expenditures

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over the next few years, you'll
see that that decrease that I

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highlighted there. Um,
important to to highlight the

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the continued importance of
intentionality and care that is

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crucial to making decisions
that will be, you know, putting

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the township in a in a strong
financial position going

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forward. Our next slide here
moves on to a different

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governmental fund, the police
fund. And it presents the fund

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the fund's revenues and
expenditures from the same time

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horizon as as the previous
slides. Uh, you'll notice the

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bars on this chart representing
the revenues, while the the

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lines behind that would
highlight the the different

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expenditure categories. Um, in
terms of, expenditures, you

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would see an increase in public
safety expenditures year over

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year, um, largely attributable
to double contributions that

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are being made to the
township's police and fire

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pension plan. Um, in an efforts
to improve the funding position

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there. And you'll also notice
budgeted increases. Um, related

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to those contributions from
2028 to 2030, noting that would

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be an additional 0.5 as opposed
to a double contribution in

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those periods. You'll also
notice on the revenue side of

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things, an increase in property
tax revenue year over year. Um,

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consistent with the trends that
we had discussed in the general

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fund. This slide highlights the
police funds fund balance or

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equity. Um, you'll notice the
increase or a slight decrease

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from 2025 to 2026 in this area.

464
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:39,524
Um, the difference between
these two bars on this chart,

465
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:43,728
the blue versus the orange, um,
you'll notice, um, the total

466
00:27:43,728 --> 00:27:46,731
fund balance being the blue
chart and the orange being the

467
00:27:46,731 --> 00:27:49,267
available fund balance. The
difference between those being

468
00:27:49,267 --> 00:27:52,971
the timing of when the township
collects your property tax, um,

469
00:27:52,971 --> 00:27:55,840
payments from residents and
just the, the impact that that

470
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,943
would have on the fund balance
there, what's available to be

471
00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:07,952
spent. Next slide will look a
lot like the last one though.

472
00:28:07,952 --> 00:28:12,157
This one discusses the fire
fund revenues and expenditures

473
00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:13,725
over the same time horizon.

474
00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:18,029
You'll notice an increase in
public safety expenditures from

475
00:28:18,029 --> 00:28:21,199
2025 to 2026. Once again, that
reflects those double

476
00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:24,469
contributions being made to the
police and fire pension system

477
00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:28,173
during those periods. And then
8.5 contribution. Additionally,

478
00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:32,577
from the 2028 to 2030 period,
um, you may notice the the

479
00:28:32,577 --> 00:28:35,747
increase in capital outlay. So
capital expenditures in that

480
00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:40,385
2029 projected year, reflecting
planned purchases of fire

481
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:43,154
trucks and other, um,
firefighting equipment there

482
00:28:43,154 --> 00:28:52,997
during that period. This slide
presents the fire fund trend in

483
00:28:52,997 --> 00:28:57,368
fund balance from 2025 to
projected to 2030. Um, the same

484
00:28:57,368 --> 00:28:59,904
principles on the total fund
balance and the available fund

485
00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:06,611
balance piece. You'll notice a
a projected trend upwards from

486
00:29:06,611 --> 00:29:13,218
34.5 million in 2025, projected
to be 50.3 million by 2030. In

487
00:29:13,218 --> 00:29:21,659
terms of total fund balance for
the fire fund. Next slide

488
00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:25,597
highlights the township's water
and sewer fund. Uh, showing

489
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:31,436
trends in revenues and expenses
from 2025 to 2026, as well as

490
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:35,140
what's budgeted for 2027. Uh,
the orange bars there will be

491
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:38,309
your your revenues, while your
teal and blue bar will be your

492
00:29:38,309 --> 00:29:43,381
expenses. Um, positive
operating income. Um, during

493
00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:48,920
the last two years, projected
also to 2027, one item to note

494
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,522
very bottom of the chart there.

495
00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:53,892
There are certain amounts
included for not included above

496
00:29:53,892 --> 00:29:59,030
that do reflect payments made
on existing debt, as well as

497
00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:04,435
capital purchases over the
2020, 2025 to 2027 years that

498
00:30:04,435 --> 00:30:07,105
you can see there at the
bottom, ranging from 15.2

499
00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:17,315
million up to 16.9 million
projected for 2027. The next

500
00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:20,518
schedule highlights the the
township's debt service

501
00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:24,455
schedule, um, differentiating
between what is township issued

502
00:30:24,455 --> 00:30:26,925
debt versus what is, uh, debt.

503
00:30:26,925 --> 00:30:30,328
That is the responsibility of
the township issued by certain

504
00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:33,998
drain authorities, um, for
capital projects that are

505
00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:37,135
benefiting multiple different
communities. You'll see a net

506
00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:42,440
reduction in the total debt
balance of $3.9 million from

507
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,177
the prior year. Um, consistent
with paying down existing debt.

508
00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:48,479
And I'll turn it over to Allie
to highlight the last slide

509
00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:52,817
that we have here.

510
00:30:52,817 --> 00:30:57,055
Thanks, Cameron. So we always
conclude our presentation to

511
00:30:57,055 --> 00:31:01,092
talk about the township's long
term liabilities associated

512
00:31:01,092 --> 00:31:04,295
with pension and retiree health
care. And I just want to maybe

513
00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:08,399
reiterate a couple things that
Cameron mentioned. You know,

514
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:13,438
one is that, you know, your
revenue sources, property taxes

515
00:31:13,438 --> 00:31:17,242
and state shared revenue. A lot
of that is on the state. Shared

516
00:31:17,242 --> 00:31:20,378
revenue is somewhat outside of
your control. We've seen that

517
00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:23,615
over the last couple of
decades. Um, and then property

518
00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:26,484
taxes, the way that works in
the state of Michigan, there's

519
00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:30,054
there's some constraints around
that increasing beyond an

520
00:31:30,054 --> 00:31:33,424
inflationary amount due to
unless you're in a community,

521
00:31:33,424 --> 00:31:36,427
has lots of new development. So
depending on if you're

522
00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:41,199
comparing communities, um, the
amount of available new

523
00:31:41,199 --> 00:31:45,470
development, uh, has a material
impact on how much new property

524
00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:48,106
tax revenue you can realize an
excess of inflation. So if your

525
00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:50,742
costs go beyond inflation and
you don't really have a lot of

526
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:52,877
new development room for new
development, you know, your

527
00:31:52,877 --> 00:31:56,381
property tax revenue is kind of
constrained to inflationary

528
00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:59,584
increases, which is what
Cameron was pointing out

529
00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:02,353
related to the property tax
revenue increases being just

530
00:32:02,353 --> 00:32:06,824
consistent with inflation. So
then when you get to these long

531
00:32:06,824 --> 00:32:10,094
term liabilities, what this
slide is showing is the

532
00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:13,531
township's three, um, the two
pension plans and the retiree

533
00:32:13,531 --> 00:32:17,068
health care plan. The first
column shows for the most

534
00:32:17,068 --> 00:32:20,338
recent reporting period, the
first column shows the

535
00:32:20,338 --> 00:32:22,707
fiduciary net position or how
much have we set aside for

536
00:32:22,707 --> 00:32:27,278
these obligations, what the
total liability is. And that

537
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,180
third column, what is unfunded.

538
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:32,083
So what liabilities have we
incurred that we haven't set

539
00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:35,920
aside funds for. Uh, and so
that that total row at the

540
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,659
bottom shows an $80.4 million
unfunded liability, which is

541
00:32:41,659 --> 00:32:44,896
what the township would need to
fund to be fully funded across

542
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:47,732
these three plans. So a little
bit of context or historical

543
00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:51,536
context I think is helpful
here. So on the um, if you look

544
00:32:51,536 --> 00:32:55,039
at like that third column, the
retiree health care plan. So

545
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,877
back in 2018, that was when
actually the accounting rules

546
00:32:59,877 --> 00:33:02,680
required that liability to get
booked on the township's full

547
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,183
balance sheet. Uh, that was
never really a requirement

548
00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:08,353
before. It was only just a
footnote disclosure. Um, so

549
00:33:08,353 --> 00:33:11,556
back at that time, the
township's funding percentage

550
00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:16,027
for retiree health care was
about 42%. Just to give you

551
00:33:16,027 --> 00:33:19,731
some perspective there. And the
township made a conscious

552
00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:23,568
decision to fund more than what
was actually required to get

553
00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:28,973
that funding level up. So where
it is now, 95% is something I

554
00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:31,909
think the township should feel
really good about, because

555
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:34,579
retiree health care for a lot
of communities back in 2018

556
00:33:34,579 --> 00:33:37,115
might have been zero. Maybe
some communities would have

557
00:33:37,115 --> 00:33:39,117
only been paying kind of what
they were incurring on an

558
00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,052
annual basis. So a lot of
progress there, and I think

559
00:33:41,052 --> 00:33:43,621
that's worth reflecting on. Uh,
for the General Employees

560
00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:47,625
pension plan, similar, um,
additional contributions were

561
00:33:47,625 --> 00:33:50,628
made to get that funding
percentage up. That wouldn't

562
00:33:50,628 --> 00:33:57,101
would have been sub 60% to 95%.

563
00:33:57,101 --> 00:33:59,937
So the trend has been very
positive there on the fire and

564
00:33:59,937 --> 00:34:04,175
police pension plan. That has
varied some. You can see the

565
00:34:04,175 --> 00:34:07,678
numbers are bigger in that
plan. So there's been a lot of

566
00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:12,550
um, contributing factors. But I
think 68% is uh is respectable

567
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:15,186
for where it is today. But I
think the township's decision

568
00:34:15,186 --> 00:34:18,389
to do some additional funding
beyond the actual required

569
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,092
contributions is also
consistent with trying to get

570
00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:24,395
our funding percentages up,
which is which is prudent. The

571
00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:27,532
contribution requirement in
that plan is a little higher.

572
00:34:27,532 --> 00:34:30,134
So as Cameron mentioned, that
goes down when you look at the

573
00:34:30,134 --> 00:34:33,404
projection, the projection
period. But I think continuing

574
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:37,809
to remain focused on this
unfunded liability is um, is

575
00:34:37,809 --> 00:34:40,344
really what's going to allow
the township the flexibility

576
00:34:40,344 --> 00:34:45,016
down the line to make other
strategic investments, um, that

577
00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:48,953
are consistent with, with your
mission and values. So, um, so

578
00:34:48,953 --> 00:34:51,589
don't take your eye off the
ball on this $80 million

579
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:56,394
liability. But but really great
progress. Um, so far and

580
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:59,197
looking forward to seeing that
continue and continuing to

581
00:34:59,197 --> 00:35:03,468
report this, this positive
story. So with that, um, that

582
00:35:03,468 --> 00:35:07,672
brings us to the conclusion of
our prepared slide deck. We're

583
00:35:07,672 --> 00:35:09,674
happy to take any questions.

584
00:35:09,674 --> 00:35:12,343
I have a question. Yes, sir.

585
00:35:12,343 --> 00:35:13,578
Trustee Wade.

586
00:35:13,578 --> 00:35:18,082
Um, it's a three part question,
so kind of bear with me.

587
00:35:18,082 --> 00:35:24,489
On page two where it says
federal sources. It looks like

588
00:35:24,489 --> 00:35:27,291
we're getting money the first
two years, and then the

589
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:30,695
following four years. We're
not. And then when you go to

590
00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:33,698
page five with the police
revenue.

591
00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:35,032
Yep.

592
00:35:35,032 --> 00:35:38,669
Where it says federal sources,
we continue getting money every

593
00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:43,407
year. And then when you go to
page seven to the fire fund, we

594
00:35:43,407 --> 00:35:48,246
get federal money for a couple
years and then it stops. But

595
00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:51,983
what's the difference in. those
funding or are we losing money.

596
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,619
or you just don't know what the
amount is going to be?

597
00:35:54,619 --> 00:35:56,988
Yeah, I think it depends on
what the funding sources is. Do

598
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,356
you want to take that.

599
00:35:58,356 --> 00:35:59,957
One?

600
00:35:59,957 --> 00:36:03,594
So in general fund and in fire
fund, it's going to be grant

601
00:36:03,594 --> 00:36:06,297
revenue. And we don't know what
the grant revenue will be in

602
00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:09,600
those years. So in projected
years we don't show anything

603
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,972
for police. Um, it's probably
I'm not sure what the what the

604
00:36:14,972 --> 00:36:18,176
38,000 is. My police.

605
00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:19,710
Um.

606
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:21,979
I'm not sure what that is. Off
the top of my head, it's

607
00:36:21,979 --> 00:36:25,650
38,000. I'm not sure I'd have
to look and see what it is, but

608
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:27,718
that's why. Because with
federal money, when we. We

609
00:36:27,718 --> 00:36:30,188
never know what grants we're
going to have coming in. So we

610
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,455
don't budget for it.

611
00:36:31,455 --> 00:36:35,393
Okay. So those zeros could be
populated with money.

612
00:36:35,393 --> 00:36:36,460
We just.

613
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:37,261
They most likely will be. I
just don't know.

614
00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:38,429
What it is. Okay.

615
00:36:38,429 --> 00:36:38,963
Yeah.

616
00:36:38,963 --> 00:36:41,666
All right. Okay.

617
00:36:41,666 --> 00:36:49,707
Well you know what to that
point, um, so if we go to the

618
00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:58,816
general fund, uh, the federal
money, uh, the 25 and 26, if

619
00:36:58,816 --> 00:37:02,954
you could speak to that,
because I believe it's the

620
00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:04,188
infrastructure funds.

621
00:37:04,188 --> 00:37:06,257
No, it wouldn't be. Not in
general fund. The

622
00:37:06,257 --> 00:37:09,427
infrastructure funds are all
reflected in the capital

623
00:37:09,427 --> 00:37:11,829
improvement fund. Okay. And
that was already received in

624
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:14,832
prior years. Okay. So these
would have been some grants

625
00:37:14,832 --> 00:37:17,168
that we got. I don't remember
off the top of.

626
00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:19,570
My head, I would suspect
probably mostly road funding.

627
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:22,740
Um, not federal grants. No. The
federal grants.

628
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:23,841
That wouldn't come into us.

629
00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:25,176
That would.

630
00:37:25,176 --> 00:37:27,211
Have that would have gone into
the county. So. Right. Yeah. So

631
00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:28,546
that.

632
00:37:28,546 --> 00:37:30,715
Yeah, this would have been some
of the grants that we got. It

633
00:37:30,715 --> 00:37:33,284
could have been some election
grants. I don't remember if we

634
00:37:33,284 --> 00:37:37,221
had any in 25, but it's going
to be smaller grants like that

635
00:37:37,221 --> 00:37:38,823
that add up to this.

636
00:37:38,823 --> 00:37:43,728
So 25 is 232,000 and 154,000.

637
00:37:43,728 --> 00:37:47,732
In uh 26 budget year. So that
does sound like election

638
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:48,432
grants.

639
00:37:48,432 --> 00:37:49,767
But yeah, it could. be okay.

640
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,168
But yeah.

641
00:37:51,168 --> 00:37:52,303
Great.

642
00:37:52,303 --> 00:37:54,972
Thank you. Any further
questions from the board

643
00:37:54,972 --> 00:38:00,344
members? Okay. I have just a
couple because I always do

644
00:38:00,344 --> 00:38:10,855
this. Sure. The, um, the fact
that the expenses exceed

645
00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:17,862
revenue in the general fund,
that is largely due to this

646
00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:23,934
unfunded liability and making
the prepayments. So not just

647
00:38:23,934 --> 00:38:28,139
what we were required to pay by
making double payments to catch

648
00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:32,310
up on those unfunded
liabilities. Because it's a

649
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:37,648
promise to our employees that
we've hired to say, there's

650
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:40,584
this pension system that's
available for you and there's

651
00:38:40,584 --> 00:38:43,721
retiree health care that is
available for you. And so we

652
00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:47,325
want to make sure that we have
the funds to meet that

653
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:51,195
obligation that previous boards
in this board has committed to.

654
00:38:51,195 --> 00:38:52,530
Is that correct?

655
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:54,031
That's correct. They've already
earned it. So now you're.

656
00:38:54,031 --> 00:38:59,670
Funding it. So that's why it's
reflected. exactly the, um,

657
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:04,909
unfunded liability in the
police and fire pension fund.

658
00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:12,450
Um, there's always a number of
different figures to determine

659
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:16,120
the actual funding percentage.

660
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,354
Yeah.

661
00:39:17,354 --> 00:39:24,095
So there's based upon our
actuary report, there is based

662
00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:30,601
upon, by the way, the actuary
report is a smooth number. Yep.

663
00:39:30,601 --> 00:39:35,406
Which then calculates this over
time. And then there's the

664
00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:40,177
state requirement I believe
it's public Act 202.

665
00:39:40,177 --> 00:39:41,512
That's exactly right.

666
00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:45,549
Which then requires us to come
up with a certain number, which

667
00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:50,488
is a snapshot in time. And then
there's a Gatsby rule. Which

668
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:51,688
one is this?

669
00:39:51,688 --> 00:39:54,692
This one. Thank you for
bringing that up. This one is

670
00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:59,563
the Gatsby accounting rule
framework for measuring that

671
00:39:59,563 --> 00:40:00,831
liability.

672
00:40:00,831 --> 00:40:03,367
So it's not based upon our
assumptions. It's not based

673
00:40:03,367 --> 00:40:06,070
upon the actuary assumptions or
the state assumptions, but

674
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:10,174
rather a set of assumptions
created by general accounting.

675
00:40:10,174 --> 00:40:11,608
Yeah.

676
00:40:11,608 --> 00:40:14,478
It's management's assumptions,
but it's not the assumptions

677
00:40:14,478 --> 00:40:17,214
that are used to determine your
contribution or what the

678
00:40:17,214 --> 00:40:18,215
actuaries would follow.

679
00:40:18,215 --> 00:40:19,416
Okay.

680
00:40:19,416 --> 00:40:21,752
And also the state's
calculation is the state wants

681
00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:24,488
to see the number with their
assumptions for everybody, so

682
00:40:24,488 --> 00:40:25,156
they can compare.

683
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:26,356
Right?

684
00:40:26,356 --> 00:40:28,859
Correct. So there's three
valuations that you get. We

685
00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:29,960
report the accounting one.

686
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,562
Got it okay.

687
00:40:31,562 --> 00:40:36,434
I always like to bring that up
because the pension board

688
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:39,103
operates on a set of
assumptions. That's right. And

689
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:42,840
those assumptions are sort of
based upon historical

690
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,278
perspective. And it's smooths
that over time. So it's a more

691
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:50,281
accurate reflection as to what
the actual funding percentage

692
00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:51,548
is.

693
00:40:51,548 --> 00:40:54,151
Yes. Every valuation has its
purpose, and the one the board

694
00:40:54,151 --> 00:40:57,822
uses is appropriate for their
policy setting.

695
00:40:57,822 --> 00:41:01,859
I would gather that the actual
funded percentage is probably a

696
00:41:01,859 --> 00:41:07,398
little higher with, um, the
smooth figures.

697
00:41:07,398 --> 00:41:12,369
I thought you might ask that
question. So for, um, for

698
00:41:12,369 --> 00:41:15,906
police and fire pension, based
on the actuarial value of it's,

699
00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:20,244
it's 68.2 instead of it's a
little bit higher but not much.

700
00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:21,578
Okay.

701
00:41:21,578 --> 00:41:25,583
But we have made the commitment
to double those contributions.

702
00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,218
We did for this current year.

703
00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:30,955
And for uh, we do last last
year in this year. Yes, yes.

704
00:41:30,955 --> 00:41:34,658
And then an additional half for
the projected years.

705
00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:36,026
Okay.

706
00:41:36,026 --> 00:41:39,763
Yeah. But another consideration
of those assumptions are market

707
00:41:39,763 --> 00:41:41,131
returns. Is that correct?

708
00:41:41,131 --> 00:41:41,832
Yes.

709
00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:45,436
So market tanks are funded.

710
00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:46,437
Percentage could tank.

711
00:41:46,437 --> 00:41:47,471
Yes.

712
00:41:47,471 --> 00:41:49,106
Putting us at risk.

713
00:41:49,106 --> 00:41:50,474
Yes.

714
00:41:50,474 --> 00:41:53,410
So well that's the reason for
the actual value why they use a

715
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:57,781
smoothed uh return so that it's
you don't see the big

716
00:41:57,781 --> 00:42:00,317
fluctuations that you see with
the accounting rules.

717
00:42:00,317 --> 00:42:01,919
Yes. Okay.

718
00:42:01,919 --> 00:42:11,028
Um, and then is it fair to, uh,
suggest that we are a mature

719
00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:14,798
plan? Yes. Which generally
means being an older community.

720
00:42:14,798 --> 00:42:18,702
We actually have more people
retired collecting from the

721
00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:21,739
system than we have people
working. Paying into the

722
00:42:21,739 --> 00:42:24,942
system. Is that correct? That's
correct. Okay. So that funded

723
00:42:24,942 --> 00:42:31,348
percentage is, um, an important
number, but a commitment that

724
00:42:31,348 --> 00:42:34,518
you believe it's responsible to
make now?

725
00:42:34,518 --> 00:42:35,586
Yes.

726
00:42:35,586 --> 00:42:37,187
To double those contributions.

727
00:42:37,187 --> 00:42:38,222
Yes.

728
00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:39,356
Okay.

729
00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:40,658
Yeah. We need to get that
funding level up. It's

730
00:42:40,658 --> 00:42:43,027
continued to decline. And at
some point if we don't do

731
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:46,297
something, the state's going to
require us to. Yep. That's the

732
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:49,433
purpose of the PA 202 to make
sure your funding level isn't

733
00:42:49,433 --> 00:42:50,768
dropping.

734
00:42:50,768 --> 00:42:52,703
Or the state's going to bail
out the communities that were,

735
00:42:52,703 --> 00:42:54,271
um, fiscally irresponsible.

736
00:42:54,271 --> 00:42:55,339
Let's not be there.

737
00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:56,407
We've seen that before.

738
00:42:56,407 --> 00:42:57,707
But.

739
00:42:57,707 --> 00:43:04,381
Um, okay. And then, um, I want
to go to the debt. Most of the

740
00:43:04,381 --> 00:43:09,753
debt is not necessarily related
to township debt, but

741
00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:13,991
obligations that we have, which
is part of a water and sewer

742
00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:17,728
system where we are connected
to the county. The county's

743
00:43:17,728 --> 00:43:21,565
connected to all of the other
counties. So it becomes a

744
00:43:21,565 --> 00:43:26,737
regional system. And it's that
maintenance that is probably

745
00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:29,974
responsible for the majority of
the debt that the township has.

746
00:43:29,974 --> 00:43:35,012
Yeah. That's correct. 37.6
million of it is county issued

747
00:43:35,012 --> 00:43:37,982
debt. County drain drainage
district issued debt.

748
00:43:37,982 --> 00:43:39,249
Okay. Yeah.

749
00:43:39,249 --> 00:43:42,219
All right. And then just one
other question. And that is we

750
00:43:42,219 --> 00:43:46,657
know that the court we're a
part of a court district 41 B

751
00:43:46,657 --> 00:43:52,363
District Court. Um, which used
to operate at a surplus and is

752
00:43:52,363 --> 00:43:57,368
now operating at a deficit,
which then places us in the

753
00:43:57,368 --> 00:43:59,937
position, along with Mount
Clemens and Harrison Township,

754
00:43:59,937 --> 00:44:01,939
is having to pay that debt.

755
00:44:01,939 --> 00:44:03,273
Correct?

756
00:44:03,273 --> 00:44:06,610
Um, whatever shortfall they
have, we're required to pick it

757
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:07,811
up, right?

758
00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:08,145
Yes.

759
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:09,545
That is.

760
00:44:09,545 --> 00:44:12,116
At least our share of it. which
we're about 72% of the overall.

761
00:44:12,116 --> 00:44:13,884
That's correct. Three
communities combined.

762
00:44:13,884 --> 00:44:15,152
Yes.

763
00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:17,955
Okay. That used to come out of
the police fund, did it not?

764
00:44:17,955 --> 00:44:21,525
It did until because the
surpluses went into the police

765
00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:24,561
fund. So we took the deficit
out of the police fund until

766
00:44:24,561 --> 00:44:28,599
that surplus was used up. It is
now used up. And I think in

767
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:32,002
this fiscal year is once when
it was used up. And the general

768
00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:34,505
fund has taken over that
subsidy.

769
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:35,739
Yep.

770
00:44:35,739 --> 00:44:37,908
So that's a big hit to the
general fund moving forward.

771
00:44:37,908 --> 00:44:39,843
Um, okay.

772
00:44:39,843 --> 00:44:43,781
All right. That concludes my
questions. Any other questions

773
00:44:43,781 --> 00:44:44,180
from.

774
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:45,716
The board?

775
00:44:45,716 --> 00:44:47,885
Um Trustee Matuzak.

776
00:44:47,885 --> 00:44:49,987
My annual question.

777
00:44:49,987 --> 00:44:52,222
Yes.

778
00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:57,494
Belle Isle Conservatory
Conservancy, the executive

779
00:44:57,494 --> 00:45:03,300
director made off with $40
million. And while I understand

780
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:08,639
the audit doesn't look to see
if anyone's embezzling any

781
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,342
funds, you do look to see the
procedures are in place.

782
00:45:12,342 --> 00:45:16,647
We do. And if we thought there
was an opportunity for somebody

783
00:45:16,647 --> 00:45:19,316
to do that on their own, we
would be required to report

784
00:45:19,316 --> 00:45:21,618
that. So when we look at your
internal controls over cash

785
00:45:21,618 --> 00:45:24,121
work in the Treasurer's office,
that is something we are

786
00:45:24,121 --> 00:45:26,256
looking for regardless of
whether it happened or not.

787
00:45:26,256 --> 00:45:28,659
We're just looking for the
opportunity. We did not

788
00:45:28,659 --> 00:45:30,494
identify any situations like
that.

789
00:45:30,494 --> 00:45:32,096
I appreciate that fact.

790
00:45:32,096 --> 00:45:37,968
Of course. Okay.

791
00:45:37,968 --> 00:45:39,703
What motion are we looking for.

792
00:45:39,703 --> 00:45:41,004
Here?

793
00:45:41,004 --> 00:45:43,474
Motion to receive and file the
presentation from Marianne on

794
00:45:43,474 --> 00:45:46,510
the audited financial
statements for Clinton Township.

795
00:45:46,510 --> 00:45:49,179
I'll second that.

796
00:45:49,179 --> 00:45:55,652
Okay. Moved in. Supported. Any
further discussion? Roll call,

797
00:45:55,652 --> 00:45:57,187
please.

798
00:45:57,187 --> 00:45:58,255
Trustee Matuzak.

799
00:45:58,255 --> 00:45:58,789
Yes.

800
00:45:58,789 --> 00:45:59,490
Treasurer Aiello.

801
00:45:59,490 --> 00:45:59,956
Yes.

802
00:45:59,956 --> 00:46:00,858
Trustee Wade.

803
00:46:00,858 --> 00:46:01,391
Yes.

804
00:46:01,391 --> 00:46:02,459
Trustee Kress.

805
00:46:02,459 --> 00:46:03,060
Yes.

806
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,061
Supervisor. Gieleghem.

807
00:46:04,061 --> 00:46:04,394
Yes.

808
00:46:04,394 --> 00:46:05,129
Trustee.

809
00:46:05,129 --> 00:46:05,996
King. Yes.

810
00:46:05,996 --> 00:46:07,798
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Motion
passes.

811
00:46:07,798 --> 00:46:08,932
Thank you, thank you.

812
00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:11,034
Thank you, Plant Moran. And
thank you. Finance and

813
00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:13,737
Accounting team for the
diligent work that you do

814
00:46:13,737 --> 00:46:24,381
throughout the year. Uh, and
particularly with this audit.

815
00:46:24,381 --> 00:46:28,585
Item number five, request
approval of the temporary

816
00:46:28,585 --> 00:46:33,090
structure permit for nice and
naughty. Uh, address on Hall

817
00:46:33,090 --> 00:46:34,491
Road.

818
00:46:34,491 --> 00:46:39,463
So the petitioner sent in a
letter basically stating the

819
00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:43,867
temporary structure permit
application, um, to the

820
00:46:43,867 --> 00:46:46,937
building department earlier and
as well as the site plan and

821
00:46:46,937 --> 00:46:49,606
signed approval from the
property owner. Those are all

822
00:46:49,606 --> 00:46:53,210
contained in this. And the
event description is the event

823
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:56,513
is a fall festival. The outdoor
portion will take up to 53 by

824
00:46:56,513 --> 00:47:00,117
53 foot set of parking spaces.

825
00:47:00,117 --> 00:47:03,954
No drivable areas of the Allied
or any street will be used. We

826
00:47:03,954 --> 00:47:08,859
plan to use 2 to 3 canopy tents
ten by 1010ft each, and we'll

827
00:47:08,859 --> 00:47:13,430
have a free standing rig for
aerial acrobat performers. I'm

828
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:17,334
unsure the exact dimensions of
the aerial rig, but I'm told

829
00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:21,605
that it will take up no more
than 15 by 15ft, and it's

830
00:47:21,605 --> 00:47:23,040
approximately 12ft tall.

831
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,276
Performers will not be
displaying any nudity or

832
00:47:26,276 --> 00:47:28,378
anything. Otherwise explicit.

833
00:47:28,378 --> 00:47:32,649
There will be small carnival
style games, no inflatables or

834
00:47:32,649 --> 00:47:36,386
other semi-permanent
installations, all tabletop

835
00:47:36,386 --> 00:47:39,756
sized and easily removed. At
the end of the event, we will

836
00:47:39,756 --> 00:47:43,861
not be charging for admission
nor charging to play games.

837
00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:47,197
Games will have small
non-monetary prizes. We, for

838
00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:52,402
example, coupons, condoms,
sample size massage oils. There

839
00:47:52,402 --> 00:47:54,004
will be no outdoor sales.

840
00:47:54,004 --> 00:47:57,608
Amplified sound will be minimal
and will not cross any of the

841
00:47:57,608 --> 00:47:59,843
thresholds defined in code.

842
00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:03,547
Please let me know anything if
I can do to make this process

843
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:07,284
smooth. Thank you. Chris
Flagger, Director of Operations

844
00:48:07,284 --> 00:48:10,454
at Nissan Naughty.

845
00:48:10,454 --> 00:48:12,623
Mr. flag, you're in attendance.

846
00:48:12,623 --> 00:48:14,191
If we could step forward.

847
00:48:14,191 --> 00:48:15,491
Sir.

848
00:48:15,491 --> 00:48:19,296
Questions from the board. Well,
first of all, I want to give

849
00:48:19,296 --> 00:48:24,902
you the opportunity to, um,
give us as clear picture as

850
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:27,771
possible on what is going to be
taking place at this event.

851
00:48:27,771 --> 00:48:29,773
Sure, absolutely. So, uh.

852
00:48:29,773 --> 00:48:31,909
Good evening. My name is Chris
Pfleger. I'm the director of

853
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:35,045
operations for the Nice and
Naughty stores. Um, the outdoor

854
00:48:35,045 --> 00:48:39,349
portion of this event, uh, as
as the letter said, no outdoor

855
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:43,186
sales or anything else in that
neck of the woods. So, uh, my

856
00:48:43,186 --> 00:48:47,858
site plan depicts, uh, three
canopy tents, ten foot by ten

857
00:48:47,858 --> 00:48:50,360
foot canopy tents. I'm unsure
at this stage whether we'll end

858
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,264
up using 2 or 3 at those canopy
tents will be an informational

859
00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:59,536
booth about the store's loyalty
program, and we 1 to 2 carnival

860
00:48:59,536 --> 00:49:02,272
games, uh, carnival style
games. We're thinking about,

861
00:49:02,272 --> 00:49:05,542
like, a ring toss and a ping
pong ball toss. I do want to be

862
00:49:05,542 --> 00:49:09,146
clear, owing to the nature of
our business, nothing outdoor

863
00:49:09,146 --> 00:49:12,482
will be explicit or obscene in
any way, so I don't I we don't

864
00:49:12,482 --> 00:49:16,553
anticipate to have any, any
body part style items. No, no

865
00:49:16,553 --> 00:49:19,222
adult toys. Nothing like that
visible on the outside of the

866
00:49:19,222 --> 00:49:22,492
building. Um, the aerial
performers have a freestanding

867
00:49:22,492 --> 00:49:25,696
rig. I did also, I believe,
include in the in the message

868
00:49:25,696 --> 00:49:28,598
their certificate of insurance,
which does name our store as

869
00:49:28,598 --> 00:49:31,234
the insured as well. Um, if I
did not, please let me know I

870
00:49:31,234 --> 00:49:34,771
have that. I will send it to
you. Um, the aerial performers

871
00:49:34,771 --> 00:49:38,275
will be doing. They have a
freestanding, uh, Lyra rig. So

872
00:49:38,275 --> 00:49:41,478
it's a ring rig. So it'll be
there'll be spinning, there'll

873
00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:45,749
be dancing, silks, that kind of
thing. They also have, uh, what

874
00:49:45,749 --> 00:49:47,985
they call ambient flow
performers. So folks that will

875
00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:51,455
be walking around, um, both in
the demarcated outdoor area and

876
00:49:51,455 --> 00:49:55,592
inside the store, uh, with
things like, again, ribbons

877
00:49:55,592 --> 00:49:57,427
fans that they're going to be
kind of dancing and moving

878
00:49:57,427 --> 00:50:00,130
around with. That's that's
pretty much the extent of what

879
00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:04,601
we'll be doing in the outdoor
portion.

880
00:50:04,601 --> 00:50:08,972
I Trustee Kress and Trustee
Matuzak. Yeah.

881
00:50:08,972 --> 00:50:10,040
Um.

882
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,176
Do you consider this a family
friendly event?

883
00:50:13,176 --> 00:50:17,280
Uh, so we are we're calling it
an adult only event. That's how

884
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,352
we're billing it. I do intend
to have. We have staff at the

885
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:23,520
games and things like that.

886
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,189
Checking IDs as we would for
customers coming into the

887
00:50:26,189 --> 00:50:31,428
store. But that said, I do want
to, uh, again, emphasize that

888
00:50:31,428 --> 00:50:34,564
nothing outdoors will be will
be obscene or explicit adult

889
00:50:34,564 --> 00:50:36,800
material. So I don't know how
to how to classify that.

890
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,971
For instance, you're talking
about, um, uh, playing games,

891
00:50:40,971 --> 00:50:44,307
right? Uh, with non-monetary
prizes such as coupons and

892
00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:51,114
condoms and massage oils. So
what's to stop an anxious child

893
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:55,919
from participating? Um, I know
it's not roped off. It's just

894
00:50:55,919 --> 00:50:57,521
freestanding tents. What?

895
00:50:57,521 --> 00:51:00,223
What's your plan as far as to
to excluding children?

896
00:51:00,223 --> 00:51:03,460
Sure. So we will have we will
have staff stationed outside at

897
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:06,530
one of those canopy tents and
checking IDs for anyone who

898
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:09,266
appears that they may not be of
age, similar to the way that we

899
00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:10,466
did would in the store.

900
00:51:10,466 --> 00:51:14,137
And it also says performers
will not be displaying any

901
00:51:14,137 --> 00:51:17,974
nudity or anything otherwise
explicit. Now that's the

902
00:51:17,974 --> 00:51:20,343
performers themselves. What
about staff?

903
00:51:20,343 --> 00:51:23,213
Oh absolutely not. No, we don't
allow our staff to have to

904
00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:25,582
display any nudity or any body
parts or anything like that.

905
00:51:25,582 --> 00:51:26,482
Okay.

906
00:51:26,482 --> 00:51:28,385
As far as wardrobe, I mean, is
it a.

907
00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:32,689
So our staff typically wear
business casual standard retail

908
00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:35,692
attire. So they'll be wearing a
t shirt or a polo. They'll be

909
00:51:35,692 --> 00:51:37,961
in khakis or jeans, something
in that neck of the woods.

910
00:51:37,961 --> 00:51:41,932
Okay. In addition to the aerial
performer, it says here that

911
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:45,502
you're going to have, um, it
says aerial performer,

912
00:51:45,502 --> 00:51:49,239
freestanding freestanding
rigging with fire performance.

913
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,143
What exactly is the fire
performance and has the fire

914
00:51:53,143 --> 00:51:54,410
department signed off.

915
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:57,814
On that? Sure. So I have not
gotten anything from from the

916
00:51:57,814 --> 00:51:59,182
fire department at this stage.

917
00:51:59,182 --> 00:52:01,318
I set my application in. I was
told to show up here. So that's

918
00:52:01,318 --> 00:52:03,820
that's the kind of the process
that I've taken thus far. Um, I

919
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:07,324
do also want to emphasize that,
uh, as I, as I said in the

920
00:52:07,324 --> 00:52:12,129
application, um, I wasn't sure
what kind of fire stunts might

921
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:14,931
be allowed. I'm perfectly happy
to cut that. If the if the

922
00:52:14,931 --> 00:52:18,535
board doesn't deem that
appropriate. Um, but what our

923
00:52:18,535 --> 00:52:21,738
performers do, they so they do
fire eating and they do fire

924
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:24,407
dancing. So, um, it would be
kind of, you know, small

925
00:52:24,407 --> 00:52:26,743
handheld pieces being moved
around the body of the

926
00:52:26,743 --> 00:52:27,878
performers.

927
00:52:27,878 --> 00:52:30,247
And what are the hours of
operation for these towns.

928
00:52:30,247 --> 00:52:33,150
For the for the event? Uh, 6 to
9 p.m..

929
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:36,319
Okay. Um, I apologize, I don't
remember your title. What is

930
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:36,953
your title?

931
00:52:36,953 --> 00:52:38,221
Director of operations.

932
00:52:38,221 --> 00:52:43,393
Um, have you had this sort of,
um. Um, happening? Go on. At

933
00:52:43,393 --> 00:52:44,728
any of your other locations?

934
00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:47,964
Not yet. So we will be doing it
at all five locations over the

935
00:52:47,964 --> 00:52:50,700
coming couple of weeks. Uh, we
start next week in Saginaw, but

936
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:52,669
we have not none. None have
occurred thus far.

937
00:52:52,669 --> 00:52:55,372
Okay. And I see you've got
permission. Is this from the

938
00:52:55,372 --> 00:52:55,939
building owner?

939
00:52:55,939 --> 00:52:56,639
Yeah.

940
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:57,840
The property owner. Correct?

941
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,344
Yeah. Um, do you have the
consent of your neighbors? Um,

942
00:53:01,344 --> 00:53:04,147
have you talked to your
neighbors? For instance, the

943
00:53:04,147 --> 00:53:07,117
Mexican restaurant next door
and, um, no.

944
00:53:07,117 --> 00:53:09,686
I have not. No, I wasn't aware
that was necessary.

945
00:53:09,686 --> 00:53:12,055
No, I'm just curious if they're
if they're in support of your

946
00:53:12,055 --> 00:53:12,856
event.

947
00:53:12,856 --> 00:53:14,491
I have not sought their
consent.

948
00:53:14,491 --> 00:53:15,025
Okay.

949
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:15,759
All right.

950
00:53:15,759 --> 00:53:18,228
Thank you.

951
00:53:18,228 --> 00:53:20,397
Trustee Matuzak.

952
00:53:20,397 --> 00:53:21,697
Excuse me for not knowing this.

953
00:53:21,697 --> 00:53:24,067
Is there a brick and mortar? Do
you have a brick and mortar

954
00:53:24,067 --> 00:53:25,335
shop here?

955
00:53:25,335 --> 00:53:28,371
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, at in
front of that location? Yeah.

956
00:53:28,371 --> 00:53:34,477
In front of that location. So
it's position between Juan

957
00:53:34,477 --> 00:53:36,947
Miguel's and Advance America?

958
00:53:36,947 --> 00:53:38,715
Yeah. I'm trying to figure that
out on the map.

959
00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:41,351
Yeah. Or the or the the the
packing track or advance. I

960
00:53:41,351 --> 00:53:43,286
forget now which one is
directly on the other side of

961
00:53:43,286 --> 00:53:44,587
the store, but. Yes. Okay.

962
00:53:44,587 --> 00:53:48,391
All right. I would think, um,
it would be important to check

963
00:53:48,391 --> 00:53:53,496
in with your neighbors about
how they feel about this when

964
00:53:53,496 --> 00:53:57,234
we approve festival sorts of
things, they're usually in a

965
00:53:57,234 --> 00:54:00,904
churchyard where it's the
church, and there's maybe

966
00:54:00,904 --> 00:54:05,175
houses around it, but it's
usually in a smaller location.

967
00:54:05,175 --> 00:54:11,781
Uh, Juan Miguel's when it's, uh,
Cinco de Mayo, we allow them to

968
00:54:11,781 --> 00:54:16,920
put a tent up. So it's not that
different for me, but I'm. I

969
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,658
don't know, this one. It's like.

970
00:54:21,658 --> 00:54:27,664
I can see people coming to Juan
Miguel's who may not like what

971
00:54:27,664 --> 00:54:31,968
you're doing, and I would argue
that that's their problem. I

972
00:54:31,968 --> 00:54:33,536
don't think you're going to do
anything.

973
00:54:33,536 --> 00:54:35,538
Obviously, that's going to be
my stance as well. I mean, that

974
00:54:35,538 --> 00:54:40,043
is the nature of of the adult
business. We are very aware

975
00:54:40,043 --> 00:54:42,012
that there is always going to
be somebody in our vicinity

976
00:54:42,012 --> 00:54:44,748
who's not not thrilled with
what we're doing. I really make

977
00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:47,417
every effort to be fully
compliant with, you know, with

978
00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:50,153
all ordinances and every
township where we operate. Um,

979
00:54:50,153 --> 00:54:52,722
you know, doing these events
has been an interesting

980
00:54:52,722 --> 00:54:54,624
experience because I'm
operating in five different

981
00:54:54,624 --> 00:54:57,060
municipalities. Everyone has
their own, you know, their own,

982
00:54:57,060 --> 00:55:00,830
uh, ordinances, obviously, but
I have been making every effort

983
00:55:00,830 --> 00:55:03,566
to ensure that everything is
compliant. So, yeah, I

984
00:55:03,566 --> 00:55:06,503
recognize there may be, you
know, someone who objects, um,

985
00:55:06,503 --> 00:55:08,605
but that's where we are.

986
00:55:08,605 --> 00:55:12,075
And your staff is prepared to
sort of deal with people who

987
00:55:12,075 --> 00:55:13,410
may hopefully.

988
00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:16,079
Again, that's that is part of
that is part of being in the

989
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,447
adult business. It does happen.

990
00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:20,917
Sometimes people stand outside
or come in the store and and

991
00:55:20,917 --> 00:55:25,221
complain or, you know, say mean
things to us. Uh, I could share

992
00:55:25,221 --> 00:55:28,925
a litany of rude things that
other business owners or cities

993
00:55:28,925 --> 00:55:31,094
have said to me over the years.

994
00:55:31,094 --> 00:55:32,729
Um, but yes, our staff is.

995
00:55:32,729 --> 00:55:35,332
But. your your purpose is to
de-escalate that as.

996
00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:36,632
Opposed to. Very much so. Yeah.

997
00:55:36,632 --> 00:55:38,868
I mean, we we want to be good
neighbors. We want to be good

998
00:55:38,868 --> 00:55:41,237
stewards of the, of the area
that we occupy. We want to be

999
00:55:41,237 --> 00:55:43,340
good, you know, residents of
the communities that we operate

1000
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:44,674
in.

1001
00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:49,145
Okay. And I will say that, uh,
the Macomb County Pride Fest in

1002
00:55:49,145 --> 00:55:54,017
downtown Mount Clemens had that
sort of rigging aerial show,

1003
00:55:54,017 --> 00:55:55,585
the big circle.

1004
00:55:55,585 --> 00:55:58,355
I believe I could be mistaken,
but I believe it's the same.

1005
00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:00,657
It's the same. I was going to
say it's probably the same

1006
00:56:00,657 --> 00:56:02,459
thing. It was really quite
beautiful. Yeah.

1007
00:56:02,459 --> 00:56:04,894
The way they the manager of the
Clinton location met them at.

1008
00:56:04,894 --> 00:56:09,366
The aerial work, and their fire
was just what I would describe

1009
00:56:09,366 --> 00:56:13,903
in my day and age as a fire
baton, you know, um, that we

1010
00:56:13,903 --> 00:56:16,906
used to have in high school
football games. So. All right.

1011
00:56:16,906 --> 00:56:19,576
Thank you very much. Absolutely.

1012
00:56:19,576 --> 00:56:21,144
Miss Meltzer.

1013
00:56:21,144 --> 00:56:24,214
Thank you, mister supervisor
Suarez, thanks for bringing

1014
00:56:24,214 --> 00:56:27,584
this forward and complying with
our rules and ordinances and

1015
00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:31,020
respecting that. Um, so it
looks like it's just going to

1016
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:33,990
be a three hour event. Is this
kind of like a pilot project,

1017
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:36,359
something that you guys are
trying out? I know you said

1018
00:56:36,359 --> 00:56:39,429
you're going to also perform in
other your other locations.

1019
00:56:39,429 --> 00:56:43,066
Will it be for that amount of
time as well and with the same

1020
00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:44,333
format?

1021
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:46,369
Correct? Yes. So in all five
locations, we're essentially

1022
00:56:46,369 --> 00:56:47,871
copy pasting the same event.

1023
00:56:47,871 --> 00:56:49,839
The only thing that's going to
be changed in and out are what

1024
00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:52,675
performers will be there just
for kind of locality reasons.

1025
00:56:52,675 --> 00:56:56,012
Um, so I don't know if I would
call this a test event, but

1026
00:56:56,012 --> 00:56:59,082
this is we're kind of using it
as like the the centerpiece of

1027
00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:02,786
our fall marketing kickoff. So,
um, I'm pretty new with nice

1028
00:57:02,786 --> 00:57:04,921
and naughty. I've only been in
this position about six months,

1029
00:57:04,921 --> 00:57:07,690
so we're playing around with
how we want to do events and

1030
00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:10,994
promotions and marketing going
forward. So assuming, you know,

1031
00:57:10,994 --> 00:57:13,229
Township approves everything
and then the event goes, well,

1032
00:57:13,229 --> 00:57:15,665
I can foresee us doing
something outdoors maybe once

1033
00:57:15,665 --> 00:57:18,735
or twice a year. But that's
that's pretty conjectural.

1034
00:57:18,735 --> 00:57:22,505
Okay. And then when when. Have
you been there when they've had

1035
00:57:22,505 --> 00:57:23,573
Cinco de Mayo. Bye.

1036
00:57:23,573 --> 00:57:24,373
No, I have not.

1037
00:57:24,373 --> 00:57:27,310
Done so. You've not heard, um.

1038
00:57:27,310 --> 00:57:31,181
Do they? You don't know if that
location ever asked you guys or

1039
00:57:31,181 --> 00:57:34,250
informs you guys of the event
that they're taking going to

1040
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:35,618
take place?

1041
00:57:35,618 --> 00:57:37,987
And my understanding is, again,
I haven't been a part of it. I

1042
00:57:37,987 --> 00:57:40,657
have I've spoken a lot with the
manager of the Clinton Township

1043
00:57:40,657 --> 00:57:43,393
location about that. My
understanding is they've never

1044
00:57:43,393 --> 00:57:45,662
sought her her consent in any
way.

1045
00:57:45,662 --> 00:57:48,865
For and there's been no
problems with, with any of the

1046
00:57:48,865 --> 00:57:52,368
events that they've had on that
property for your business.

1047
00:57:52,368 --> 00:57:53,036
No.

1048
00:57:53,036 --> 00:57:54,137
Not not to my knowledge.

1049
00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:55,337
Certainly.

1050
00:57:55,337 --> 00:57:59,342
Okay. Yeah. Um, okay. Um, there
was one other question

1051
00:57:59,342 --> 00:58:03,179
regarding the fire. Um, I would
like our we do have our fire

1052
00:58:03,179 --> 00:58:06,483
chief here today. Um, I was
hoping not to put him on the

1053
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:10,553
spot, but if I can ask, do you
have any concerns or do you

1054
00:58:10,553 --> 00:58:14,891
need to verify exactly what
this fire display is going to?

1055
00:58:14,891 --> 00:58:18,161
How big it will be, what the
potential danger is before we

1056
00:58:18,161 --> 00:58:21,664
can make a decision to approve
or or not. This request.

1057
00:58:21,664 --> 00:58:23,833
Sorry, Mr.. Supervisor board.

1058
00:58:23,833 --> 00:58:26,636
Uh, obviously, the
documentation was.

1059
00:58:26,636 --> 00:58:27,936
Provided.

1060
00:58:27,936 --> 00:58:30,440
Was rather lacking in regards
to the fire portion of the of

1061
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,376
the performance. I did have a
general conversation with the

1062
00:58:33,376 --> 00:58:35,612
fire Marshal of potentiality.

1063
00:58:35,612 --> 00:58:38,114
Uh, the concern was any fire
activity taking place,

1064
00:58:38,114 --> 00:58:40,917
obviously under the, uh, the
tents or in the location such

1065
00:58:40,917 --> 00:58:44,654
as that. And then, uh, with the
fire marshal, uh, actually with

1066
00:58:44,654 --> 00:58:48,591
the conversation as well, that
if the fire batons as was

1067
00:58:48,591 --> 00:58:50,760
described is what we kind of
looked, a little bit of

1068
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,463
research had been past
practice, uh, having a fire

1069
00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:57,400
extinguisher available and a
area that does not allow public,

1070
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,903
the aforementioned children and
those other concerns into the

1071
00:58:59,903 --> 00:59:03,806
display or the activity area
that would be deemed to be

1072
00:59:03,806 --> 00:59:06,209
sufficient in regards to the
ability to control. That would

1073
00:59:06,209 --> 00:59:10,780
be most like a small fire and
keeping, um, textiles and up

1074
00:59:10,780 --> 00:59:13,483
and type of fuels, obviously
things for safety away from

1075
00:59:13,483 --> 00:59:14,984
the, the performance site.

1076
00:59:14,984 --> 00:59:18,354
So but, but they cannot have
that fire underneath the

1077
00:59:18,354 --> 00:59:20,189
portion of the tent. Is that
correct.

1078
00:59:20,189 --> 00:59:21,624
That'd be correct. And fire
Marshal will certainly

1079
00:59:21,624 --> 00:59:23,760
verbalize that as a concern. I
would agree with that as well.

1080
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,463
Just we'll have a congregation
of folks there as well, as well

1081
00:59:27,463 --> 00:59:29,966
as the the area under the tent
would be unsafe..

1082
00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:34,237
So that aerial, um, machine,
whatever, that's basically

1083
00:59:34,237 --> 00:59:36,873
where the fire is going to be
like above.

1084
00:59:36,873 --> 00:59:37,973
So, yeah.

1085
00:59:37,973 --> 00:59:40,743
So, um, that's one of the
reasons I mentioned some

1086
00:59:40,743 --> 00:59:43,446
flexibility in kind of how many
canopy tents we will be, we

1087
00:59:43,446 --> 00:59:47,050
will be using if, if we would
be having fire performances,

1088
00:59:47,050 --> 00:59:49,485
then that would be essentially
taking one of the places of the

1089
00:59:49,485 --> 00:59:52,388
canopy tents shown in that site
map. So we would have the rig,

1090
00:59:52,388 --> 00:59:55,191
the aerial rig in one spot. I'm
not certain if they would be

1091
00:59:55,191 --> 00:59:57,794
doing any fire on the rig or
not. Again, there's no that's

1092
00:59:57,794 --> 00:59:59,329
that's a freestanding
structure. There's nothing

1093
00:59:59,329 --> 01:00:00,964
above it. There's no textiles.

1094
01:00:00,964 --> 01:00:04,233
Um, and then one of the other
kind of spaces that I, that

1095
01:00:04,233 --> 01:00:06,803
I've listed as canopy tent
would instead be taken up by,

1096
01:00:06,803 --> 01:00:10,540
by one of the fire performers
keeping in that zone again. No,

1097
01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:12,976
no roof over top of them, no
canopy, nothing of that sort.

1098
01:00:12,976 --> 01:00:16,112
Okay. So should there be should
it be a windy day which has

1099
01:00:16,112 --> 01:00:20,883
happened lately? Um, and
somehow a flame gets on one of

1100
01:00:20,883 --> 01:00:25,955
the tents. Um, you're saying a
fire extinguisher in the ready

1101
01:00:25,955 --> 01:00:28,124
would likely take care of that
problem?

1102
01:00:28,124 --> 01:00:29,759
Uh, handled immediately? Yes.

1103
01:00:29,759 --> 01:00:32,095
And windy day will certainly be
a concern. And with due

1104
01:00:32,095 --> 01:00:33,362
diligence being taken.

1105
01:00:33,362 --> 01:00:36,265
But do we need to make sure
there's somebody there to do

1106
01:00:36,265 --> 01:00:39,669
that? Like who? Who? Chris Wood
in your store. Manage that. Do

1107
01:00:39,669 --> 01:00:42,538
they. Do they know how do you
use a fire extinguisher?

1108
01:00:42,538 --> 01:00:44,207
I appreciate that question.

1109
01:00:44,207 --> 01:00:47,110
It's not something that's come
to my mind, but um, so I will

1110
01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:49,512
be having as I said, there will
be a staff member station out

1111
01:00:49,512 --> 01:00:50,813
in that portion of the event.

1112
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:53,516
So I can certainly make sure
that the station where they're

1113
01:00:53,516 --> 01:00:56,052
set has a fire extinguisher
available, that they're trained

1114
01:00:56,052 --> 01:00:59,722
on the use of that of that
item. Um, I believe that people

1115
01:00:59,722 --> 01:01:01,658
are trained on the use of that
whenever they're there higher.

1116
01:01:01,658 --> 01:01:03,393
But again, I'm with the
company, so that'll be

1117
01:01:03,393 --> 01:01:06,529
something I can do due
diligence wise. Um, as to when,

1118
01:01:06,529 --> 01:01:10,333
I should also note that the the
company performing the the

1119
01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:14,671
event, um, has they have, have
they have wind procedures. So

1120
01:01:14,671 --> 01:01:17,240
if the wind is above a certain
level then they would cancel

1121
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,408
fire performances regardless.

1122
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:20,610
Okay. Good to know. All right.

1123
01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:23,379
I don't have any other
questions. And, um, I don't

1124
01:01:23,379 --> 01:01:25,715
know if anybody else does. I
can. make it. Okay.

1125
01:01:25,715 --> 01:01:31,754
Uh, so the purpose of the event
is for general marketing. Is

1126
01:01:31,754 --> 01:01:35,892
that correct? Correct. How do
you plan to advertise the

1127
01:01:35,892 --> 01:01:39,595
event? So the of whom do you
plan to advertise it?

1128
01:01:39,595 --> 01:01:43,566
Yep. So the event is being
advertised in store. It's being

1129
01:01:43,566 --> 01:01:46,035
advertised on social media and
it's being advertised on

1130
01:01:46,035 --> 01:01:47,070
billboards.

1131
01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:49,806
Um, billboards. Correct. Okay.

1132
01:01:49,806 --> 01:01:53,710
Having trouble understanding
ten by ten tents and an aerial

1133
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:57,780
performance. Those ten by ten
tents. Obviously the aerial

1134
01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,849
performance is going to be
outside of those tents.

1135
01:01:59,849 --> 01:02:06,255
Correct. Is there some type of
like contraption or is there

1136
01:02:06,255 --> 01:02:09,392
like a, um.

1137
01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:11,027
Actually see this.

1138
01:02:11,027 --> 01:02:13,162
If you want to lend.

1139
01:02:13,162 --> 01:02:20,837
Some for the rigging is like
big poles and with things it's

1140
01:02:20,837 --> 01:02:23,339
like when you go to the circus,
it's like a circus tent and

1141
01:02:23,339 --> 01:02:26,142
things are attached to the top,
and then there's a big ring and

1142
01:02:26,142 --> 01:02:31,314
people spin in the ring and
turn over in the ring and have

1143
01:02:31,314 --> 01:02:35,618
silk, long silk sashes that
they manipulated and roll up

1144
01:02:35,618 --> 01:02:38,387
and roll down and that sort of
thing. But it's basically a

1145
01:02:38,387 --> 01:02:41,491
metal structure. It's quite
tall. And we have it all, but

1146
01:02:41,491 --> 01:02:44,827
it's quite tall. But all of
their various equipment is

1147
01:02:44,827 --> 01:02:48,431
attached to it, and it's
separate from this would not

1148
01:02:48,431 --> 01:02:49,565
fit under attack, correct?

1149
01:02:49,565 --> 01:02:50,833
Yeah.

1150
01:02:50,833 --> 01:02:56,672
Right. So while you know the
township generally requires a

1151
01:02:56,672 --> 01:03:02,245
tent permit ten by ten tents,
we don't require a permit, but

1152
01:03:02,245 --> 01:03:07,650
I don't know if we have an
ordinance that speaks to tall,

1153
01:03:07,650 --> 01:03:10,753
uh, metal structures.

1154
01:03:10,753 --> 01:03:12,288
I couldn't find one in the
code.

1155
01:03:12,288 --> 01:03:19,395
I looked so, you know, this is
kind of unprecedented here. Um,

1156
01:03:19,395 --> 01:03:24,133
does your company have any
affiliation with a similar

1157
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:28,871
event that took place in
Sterling Heights on the

1158
01:03:28,871 --> 01:03:32,642
property of the mall? No. Uh,
the former Lakeside?

1159
01:03:32,642 --> 01:03:34,243
No, I don't know anything about
that.

1160
01:03:34,243 --> 01:03:39,148
Okay. It was brought to my
attention that they had one of

1161
01:03:39,148 --> 01:03:43,519
these aerial performances as
well. A company similar to

1162
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:49,192
yours. And it's 5000 things
were pretty risque.

1163
01:03:49,192 --> 01:03:51,928
I couldn't speak to that. I
could I could maybe make some

1164
01:03:51,928 --> 01:03:55,097
guesses. Uh, but I couldn't
speak to that. We are not

1165
01:03:55,097 --> 01:03:57,700
affiliated with that group.

1166
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:03,539
Okay. Um, Trustee Kress.

1167
01:04:03,539 --> 01:04:07,310
Um, as far as advertising goes,
I know you said billboards and,

1168
01:04:07,310 --> 01:04:09,412
you know, online presence.

1169
01:04:09,412 --> 01:04:14,784
Will there be any signage on
Hall Road or anybody waving

1170
01:04:14,784 --> 01:04:18,054
signs or anything at all like
that on the median or on the

1171
01:04:18,054 --> 01:04:18,520
side of.

1172
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,555
The road? No.

1173
01:04:19,555 --> 01:04:20,256
Okay.

1174
01:04:20,256 --> 01:04:24,360
Thank you.

1175
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,495
Uh oh.

1176
01:04:26,495 --> 01:04:28,631
I Trustee Wade.

1177
01:04:28,631 --> 01:04:33,936
Uh. Real quick. Are you going
to have an ambulance and a fire

1178
01:04:33,936 --> 01:04:37,940
personnel assigned to the event
or. Chief? Do you have to have

1179
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:43,579
somebody on the grounds? If
that's taking place at fire?

1180
01:04:43,579 --> 01:04:44,714
Uh.

1181
01:04:44,714 --> 01:04:46,515
Due to the lack of the
ordinance and the ability to

1182
01:04:46,515 --> 01:04:50,019
speak with the fire marshal and
the lack of concern of any

1183
01:04:50,019 --> 01:04:54,457
outside of the tent area. Uh,
not a direction to have fire

1184
01:04:54,457 --> 01:04:58,027
apparatus on scene of the day
of the event. I cannot speak to

1185
01:04:58,027 --> 01:05:00,229
the ambulance being stationed
there. Not sure if that

1186
01:05:00,229 --> 01:05:01,664
arranges to meet or not.

1187
01:05:01,664 --> 01:05:02,365
Okay.

1188
01:05:02,365 --> 01:05:03,432
Do you.

1189
01:05:03,432 --> 01:05:05,434
Do you intend on having an
ambulance there or.

1190
01:05:05,434 --> 01:05:08,271
No, that's not currently part
of my plan. I didn't see that

1191
01:05:08,271 --> 01:05:10,773
anywhere in the coding, so I
didn't plan for that. If it is

1192
01:05:10,773 --> 01:05:12,875
part of the ordinance, I'd be
happy to do it.

1193
01:05:12,875 --> 01:05:13,409
Okay.

1194
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:13,808
All right.

1195
01:05:13,808 --> 01:05:15,544
Thank you.

1196
01:05:15,544 --> 01:05:18,748
Uh, Trustee King.

1197
01:05:18,748 --> 01:05:22,351
Um, has the other
municipalities that you've done

1198
01:05:22,351 --> 01:05:25,688
this in. Has this been. Uh, I
mean, anecdotally.

1199
01:05:25,688 --> 01:05:31,294
Or is statistically, has this
been, uh, accepted or have you

1200
01:05:31,294 --> 01:05:33,696
gotten good feedback or
response from the residents?

1201
01:05:33,696 --> 01:05:34,996
They're all over the map now.

1202
01:05:34,996 --> 01:05:37,566
Again, the events themselves
have not taken place yet in the

1203
01:05:37,566 --> 01:05:40,803
other municipalities. So it's
all in the planning stage. Um,

1204
01:05:40,803 --> 01:05:43,372
I can only speak to the
reception I've gotten from

1205
01:05:43,372 --> 01:05:46,742
essentially the other the other
townships themselves, which has

1206
01:05:46,742 --> 01:05:50,579
been all over the board. Um,
I've it's hard to kind of

1207
01:05:50,579 --> 01:05:55,084
summarize generally, but, um, I
can say that, uh, we operate in

1208
01:05:55,084 --> 01:05:58,854
Woodhaven. They, they have
disallowed the event entirely.

1209
01:05:58,854 --> 01:06:01,958
Um, we operate in a couple of,
uh, areas of Grand Rapids.

1210
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,627
They're very friendly to the
event. They've kind of just

1211
01:06:04,627 --> 01:06:06,896
they've kind of checked off
everything we submitted. So

1212
01:06:06,896 --> 01:06:09,999
it's a little bit all over. I
think, uh, we operate in

1213
01:06:09,999 --> 01:06:13,436
Saginaw. Um, I when they I sent
them my permit, they said, you

1214
01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:16,372
don't even need a permit for
this. It's too small scale. So

1215
01:06:16,372 --> 01:06:18,441
it's been a little bit of
everything.

1216
01:06:18,441 --> 01:06:21,644
Thank you.

1217
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:22,811
Clerk Meltzer.

1218
01:06:22,811 --> 01:06:25,381
I would like to make a motion
to approve the request

1219
01:06:25,381 --> 01:06:28,751
conditional upon receiving, um,
the township being additionally

1220
01:06:28,751 --> 01:06:33,055
insured for $1 million per
incident. Um, in whatever the

1221
01:06:33,055 --> 01:06:38,361
attorney might require. Um,
but, um, as presented, I would

1222
01:06:38,361 --> 01:06:39,829
like to make a motion to
approve.

1223
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:40,363
I would.

1224
01:06:40,363 --> 01:06:41,663
Support.

1225
01:06:41,663 --> 01:06:46,802
Um, can you can you make that
contingent upon, uh, sign off

1226
01:06:46,802 --> 01:06:48,904
by the fire department?

1227
01:06:48,904 --> 01:06:52,375
I think he already did. You say
you had to sign off or. There's

1228
01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:53,709
nothing in there?

1229
01:06:53,709 --> 01:06:57,613
Well, a review of the
performance could be submitted

1230
01:06:57,613 --> 01:07:00,216
to the fire department, and
they could assess risk. And

1231
01:07:00,216 --> 01:07:01,483
then say.

1232
01:07:01,483 --> 01:07:05,354
I think they already did that
based on what was submitted.

1233
01:07:05,354 --> 01:07:07,556
It's a little more of a robust
description this evening as

1234
01:07:07,556 --> 01:07:10,292
what we had prior to with the
documentation. So I can bring

1235
01:07:10,292 --> 01:07:13,329
this back to the fire marshal
for for the sign off, if you

1236
01:07:13,329 --> 01:07:15,531
will, or any concerns that he
may verbalize.

1237
01:07:15,531 --> 01:07:16,765
It would be necessary.

1238
01:07:16,765 --> 01:07:18,968
I can certainly get a full
description of the performance

1239
01:07:18,968 --> 01:07:20,068
from.

1240
01:07:20,068 --> 01:07:21,404
From the performers themselves
and pass it along.

1241
01:07:21,404 --> 01:07:23,039
I think it'd be beneficial.

1242
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:25,307
Again, the conversation was on
the general terms based on the

1243
01:07:25,307 --> 01:07:26,742
information that was provided.

1244
01:07:26,742 --> 01:07:30,880
Okay. Okay. As a motion maker
and supporter, I was I can't

1245
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,316
just say, hey, I'm amending
this. I can ask for a friendly

1246
01:07:34,316 --> 01:07:35,584
or I could offer an amendment.

1247
01:07:35,584 --> 01:07:39,588
You guys are saying you're
amenable to that being added?

1248
01:07:39,588 --> 01:07:48,130
Okay. So consider it as a
friendly amendment. Um. Roll

1249
01:07:48,130 --> 01:07:54,637
call. Um, well, public public
participation. We do have a

1250
01:07:54,637 --> 01:08:00,342
hand up. Uh, one thing I want,
uh, don't embarrass this board.

1251
01:08:00,342 --> 01:08:01,677
Of course. Okay.

1252
01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:05,681
Again, my intention is to be is
to be compliant, to be a good

1253
01:08:05,681 --> 01:08:07,516
neighbor, good member of the
community. We certainly want to

1254
01:08:07,516 --> 01:08:08,250
step over a.

1255
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:09,418
Lot, and they have been good.

1256
01:08:09,418 --> 01:08:12,054
You guys have done a great job
in our community.

1257
01:08:12,054 --> 01:08:14,190
Saying that the store exists.

1258
01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:16,859
Huh. I understand the storage
exists.

1259
01:08:16,859 --> 01:08:17,393
Yeah.

1260
01:08:17,393 --> 01:08:18,560
Yeah.

1261
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,796
And it existed before we took
it over. Even it was a

1262
01:08:20,796 --> 01:08:22,698
different one in that same
location.

1263
01:08:22,698 --> 01:08:25,468
Okay. Public participation.

1264
01:08:25,468 --> 01:08:32,341
Mister Buschell.

1265
01:08:32,341 --> 01:08:37,113
And the structure. I would
point out, in our township, we

1266
01:08:37,113 --> 01:08:40,950
have CJ Barrymore's. They build
permanent things and all kinds

1267
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:43,052
of wild stuff. I have never
seen them before. The planning

1268
01:08:43,052 --> 01:08:47,323
Commission and their tax
record. Even when they put in

1269
01:08:47,323 --> 01:08:51,360
multi-million dollar cement
properties, their taxes haven't

1270
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,362
gone up. So I can't even
believe you're worried about

1271
01:08:53,362 --> 01:08:56,532
this on this particular thing
that the store has been there.

1272
01:08:56,532 --> 01:08:59,001
There's been no complaints. Uh,
yeah.

1273
01:08:59,001 --> 01:09:01,637
Mister Buschell Barrymore's is
not on the agenda.

1274
01:09:01,637 --> 01:09:05,441
I'm just saying. But you have
to compare there again in the

1275
01:09:05,441 --> 01:09:08,210
township. The township had a
problem with allowing things in

1276
01:09:08,210 --> 01:09:11,147
one place, and then another
person wants it and they have

1277
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:15,017
to sue to get it. So it's just
a matter of. Yeah, fairness. It

1278
01:09:15,017 --> 01:09:16,585
might be fairness and quality.

1279
01:09:16,585 --> 01:09:22,124
So. Okay. Any further public
participation? Roll call

1280
01:09:22,124 --> 01:09:22,992
please.

1281
01:09:22,992 --> 01:09:25,327
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Trustee
Matuzak.

1282
01:09:25,327 --> 01:09:25,794
Yes.

1283
01:09:25,794 --> 01:09:26,729
Trustee Wade.

1284
01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:27,263
Yes.

1285
01:09:27,263 --> 01:09:27,963
Trustee Kress.

1286
01:09:27,963 --> 01:09:29,398
No.

1287
01:09:29,398 --> 01:09:31,000
Supervisor. Gieleghem.

1288
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,067
Yes.

1289
01:09:32,067 --> 01:09:33,135
Trustee King.

1290
01:09:33,135 --> 01:09:34,203
No.

1291
01:09:34,203 --> 01:09:35,271
Treasurer Aiello.

1292
01:09:35,271 --> 01:09:35,804
Yes.

1293
01:09:35,804 --> 01:09:37,406
Motion passes.

1294
01:09:37,406 --> 01:09:43,512
Okay. Thank you. Sir. Um, item
number six. Request approval to

1295
01:09:43,512 --> 01:09:46,482
place banners for annual
Goodfellow Spaghetti dinner.

1296
01:09:46,482 --> 01:09:50,386
Dear board members, the Clinton
Township Goodfellas will be

1297
01:09:50,386 --> 01:09:53,989
hosting our annual pasta dinner
on Wednesday, October 7th, 2026

1298
01:09:53,989 --> 01:09:58,460
from 3 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the
Mirage Banquet Center. We are

1299
01:09:58,460 --> 01:10:01,463
requesting permission to post
banners and signs to advertise

1300
01:10:01,463 --> 01:10:04,133
our event, which benefits the
children of Clinton Township.

1301
01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:08,571
Last year, we provided toys to
541 children in need. We would

1302
01:10:08,571 --> 01:10:11,006
like your permission to put
these signs and banners up in

1303
01:10:11,006 --> 01:10:14,410
strategic locations in the
township. 7 to 10 days prior to

1304
01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:17,146
the dinner. Like in past years,
we will seek property owner

1305
01:10:17,146 --> 01:10:20,149
permission prior to
installation and all signs and

1306
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:22,718
banners will be removed within
the following three days of the

1307
01:10:22,718 --> 01:10:28,157
event. We would also request to
have the dinner promoted on the

1308
01:10:28,157 --> 01:10:31,894
various electronic signs
throughout the township,

1309
01:10:31,894 --> 01:10:35,097
including the two signs on
Gratiot Fire Stations number

1310
01:10:35,097 --> 01:10:38,000
one and five, as well as the
marquee signs at the fire

1311
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,036
station and Township civic
center. We value our past

1312
01:10:41,036 --> 01:10:43,339
cooperation with the Township
Board of Trustees, and look

1313
01:10:43,339 --> 01:10:44,506
forward to working with you.

1314
01:10:44,506 --> 01:10:46,842
Once again, thank you for your
continued support of our

1315
01:10:46,842 --> 01:10:49,778
organization. Sincerely, Ruth
Cummins, president for the

1316
01:10:49,778 --> 01:10:52,715
Clinton Township. Good fellows..

1317
01:10:52,715 --> 01:10:54,283
Discussions from the board.

1318
01:10:54,283 --> 01:10:56,418
I'd like to make a motion to
approve the request.

1319
01:10:56,418 --> 01:10:57,253
I'll second.

1320
01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:58,120
That.

1321
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,690
Moved and supported. Any
discussion.

1322
01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:03,292
A question.

1323
01:11:03,292 --> 01:11:05,961
Uh Trustee Matuzak.

1324
01:11:05,961 --> 01:11:08,797
I mean, we do this every year,
and it's a fine thing to do.

1325
01:11:08,797 --> 01:11:12,935
I'm sort of wondering why it's
not part of the consent agenda.

1326
01:11:12,935 --> 01:11:15,571
I mean, this seems very routine
to me.

1327
01:11:15,571 --> 01:11:19,275
It helps to advertise and, you
know, just be good stewards.

1328
01:11:19,275 --> 01:11:21,977
And I think it's a way to let
the public know.

1329
01:11:21,977 --> 01:11:26,248
That's fine. Just asking. Thank
you.

1330
01:11:26,248 --> 01:11:30,552
Okay. Further discussion. We
have a motion in support. Roll

1331
01:11:30,552 --> 01:11:31,587
call please.

1332
01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:33,489
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Trustee
Kress.

1333
01:11:33,489 --> 01:11:33,955
Yes.

1334
01:11:33,955 --> 01:11:34,790
Trustee Wade.

1335
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:35,324
Yes.

1336
01:11:35,324 --> 01:11:36,392
Trustee Matuzak.

1337
01:11:36,392 --> 01:11:37,092
Yes.

1338
01:11:37,092 --> 01:11:38,560
Supervisor. Gieleghem. Yes.

1339
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,264
Trustee King. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello. Yes. Motion passes.

1340
01:11:42,264 --> 01:11:46,568
Item number seven. Adoption of
Township. Ordinance Number 507,

1341
01:11:46,568 --> 01:11:54,043
which is the codification of
ordinances. Um, the, uh. Uh,

1342
01:11:54,043 --> 01:11:58,314
public hearing and publishing
was, uh, um, approved last

1343
01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,883
week. So this is for final
approval.

1344
01:12:00,883 --> 01:12:05,988
Final adoption in publish of
ordinance 507 for the

1345
01:12:05,988 --> 01:12:07,323
codification of ordinances.

1346
01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:08,924
I'll make a motion to approve.

1347
01:12:08,924 --> 01:12:10,492
I'll second that.

1348
01:12:10,492 --> 01:12:15,831
Moved and supported any further
discussion. Roll call please.

1349
01:12:15,831 --> 01:12:19,168
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello. Yes. Trustee Wade.

1350
01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,102
Yes.

1351
01:12:20,102 --> 01:12:20,836
Trustee Matuzak.

1352
01:12:20,836 --> 01:12:21,670
Yes.

1353
01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:22,338
Trustee Kress.

1354
01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:23,839
No.

1355
01:12:23,839 --> 01:12:24,907
Supervisor. Gieleghem.

1356
01:12:24,907 --> 01:12:25,974
Yes.

1357
01:12:25,974 --> 01:12:26,575
Trustee King.

1358
01:12:26,575 --> 01:12:27,576
Yes.

1359
01:12:27,576 --> 01:12:28,777
Motion passes.

1360
01:12:28,777 --> 01:12:32,047
Item number eight. Request
approval for the US Alliance

1361
01:12:32,047 --> 01:12:35,150
for Elections Excellence. Grant
application.

1362
01:12:35,150 --> 01:12:37,219
To your Board of Trustees,
please see the grant

1363
01:12:37,219 --> 01:12:40,022
committee's recommendation for
approval of the US Alliance for

1364
01:12:40,022 --> 01:12:44,827
Election Excellence grant in
the amount of $15,000, there is

1365
01:12:44,827 --> 01:12:47,363
no matching requirement in the
money will be used to purchase

1366
01:12:47,363 --> 01:12:50,566
ten Franklin voting booths at
an estimated cost of

1367
01:12:50,566 --> 01:12:55,838
$12,090.10, as well as 200
secrecy folders in the amount

1368
01:12:55,838 --> 01:13:00,743
of $863.33. Any remaining
ballots can be used toward

1369
01:13:00,743 --> 01:13:03,912
election payroll for election
workers. Please see the

1370
01:13:03,912 --> 01:13:06,982
attached photos of product,
vendor and estimated cost.

1371
01:13:06,982 --> 01:13:09,318
Thank you for your attention to
this request. Sincerely, Kim

1372
01:13:09,318 --> 01:13:10,786
Meltzer Clinton Township Clerk.

1373
01:13:10,786 --> 01:13:13,756
I'd also like to just remind
that I didn't mention it. This

1374
01:13:13,756 --> 01:13:17,726
has not been awarded yet, so
this is to apply for that which

1375
01:13:17,726 --> 01:13:20,929
I did submit the application,
but I have not gotten

1376
01:13:20,929 --> 01:13:23,132
confirmation of receipt.

1377
01:13:23,132 --> 01:13:27,836
I would make that motion to
submit this grant.

1378
01:13:27,836 --> 01:13:28,904
I'll second that.

1379
01:13:28,904 --> 01:13:34,810
Moved in supported discussion.

1380
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:37,446
Roll call please.

1381
01:13:37,446 --> 01:13:41,183
Trustee Matuzak. Yes. Treasurer
Aiello. Yes. Trustee Wade.

1382
01:13:41,183 --> 01:13:41,717
Yes.

1383
01:13:41,717 --> 01:13:42,785
Trustee Kress.

1384
01:13:42,785 --> 01:13:43,485
Yes.

1385
01:13:43,485 --> 01:13:45,421
Supervisor. Gieleghem. Yes.

1386
01:13:45,421 --> 01:13:45,988
Trustee. King.

1387
01:13:45,988 --> 01:13:46,855
Yes.

1388
01:13:46,855 --> 01:13:48,657
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Motion
passes.

1389
01:13:48,657 --> 01:13:52,428
And item number nine. Increased
compensation for Deputy Clerk

1390
01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:54,530
for additional statutory
duties.

1391
01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:57,166
To members of Clinton Township
Board. As a result of

1392
01:13:57,166 --> 01:13:59,902
additional statutory
requirements adopted into state

1393
01:13:59,902 --> 01:14:02,638
election law. It is estimated
that the Deputy Clerk is

1394
01:14:02,638 --> 01:14:06,241
currently working an additional
64 hours of uncompensated hours

1395
01:14:06,241 --> 01:14:09,077
during the midterm election
year. As a result, I'm

1396
01:14:09,077 --> 01:14:12,114
respectfully asking the board
to approve the following one.

1397
01:14:12,114 --> 01:14:14,583
In addition to salary, the
Deputy clerk will be allowed to

1398
01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:18,053
submit for compensation for
hourly compensation at the

1399
01:14:18,053 --> 01:14:22,825
current rate of pay for up to
an additional 64 hours in 2026,

1400
01:14:22,825 --> 01:14:27,262
for a cost not to exceed a
total of $3,400. Two such

1401
01:14:27,262 --> 01:14:29,898
additional compensation is
expressly excluded from

1402
01:14:29,898 --> 01:14:32,601
consideration in the
calculation of final average

1403
01:14:32,601 --> 01:14:36,138
compensation, or FAC, for
pension calculation purposes,

1404
01:14:36,138 --> 01:14:39,475
and three for any additional
hours work directly related to

1405
01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:42,678
elections that would normally
qualify for comp time. The

1406
01:14:42,678 --> 01:14:45,948
opportunity to utilize such
comp time extend into the

1407
01:14:45,948 --> 01:14:47,883
following non election year.

1408
01:14:47,883 --> 01:14:50,052
Thank you for your attention to
this matter. I appreciate your

1409
01:14:50,052 --> 01:14:52,154
support. Recognize the
importance of this request.

1410
01:14:52,154 --> 01:14:55,858
Sincerely, Kim Meltzer Township
Clerk.

1411
01:14:55,858 --> 01:15:01,129
I'd like to make a motion to
approve as stated.

1412
01:15:01,129 --> 01:15:03,265
I'll support.

1413
01:15:03,265 --> 01:15:07,569
Moved and supported discussion
questions. Question. Um.

1414
01:15:07,569 --> 01:15:08,837
Trustee Matuzak.

1415
01:15:08,837 --> 01:15:15,277
Uh, I saw a document earlier
that listed the amount we're

1416
01:15:15,277 --> 01:15:17,880
talking, the total amount of
money we're talking about. It's

1417
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,047
not in this letter.

1418
01:15:19,047 --> 01:15:23,519
3400 is the cap. And this
letter in this letter, it is

1419
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,788
the one I just read. It said
that it capped not to exceed

1420
01:15:26,788 --> 01:15:28,056
3400.

1421
01:15:28,056 --> 01:15:32,094
Okay. So that's the entire cap
we're talking about. Yes.

1422
01:15:32,094 --> 01:15:34,997
Anything above and beyond that
would could be utilized in the

1423
01:15:34,997 --> 01:15:39,601
form of compilers. And those
compilers could be, um, taken

1424
01:15:39,601 --> 01:15:40,636
into the next year.

1425
01:15:40,636 --> 01:15:42,271
Which I think is a great idea.

1426
01:15:42,271 --> 01:15:44,873
We should take those comp hours
into the next year. It's hard

1427
01:15:44,873 --> 01:15:49,177
to get away during an election
year.

1428
01:15:49,177 --> 01:15:53,482
Trustee Kress uh, through the
chair to the clerk. Is this,

1429
01:15:53,482 --> 01:15:58,954
um, combining what used to be a
different position, like two

1430
01:15:58,954 --> 01:16:00,856
different job titles together?

1431
01:16:00,856 --> 01:16:04,927
No, um, this is not I mean, we
were unsuccessful in getting

1432
01:16:04,927 --> 01:16:08,430
that position filled. Um, thank
you for awarding it. This board

1433
01:16:08,430 --> 01:16:13,302
did approve that, but we did
not. Um, after interviews, um,

1434
01:16:13,302 --> 01:16:17,973
we did have one offer, but it
was rejected. And, um, so we do

1435
01:16:17,973 --> 01:16:22,377
not have a position that filled
that is filled. This is the

1436
01:16:22,377 --> 01:16:25,981
first time in a very long time
that we do not have an

1437
01:16:25,981 --> 01:16:29,751
election. A third party that
is, that can support us during

1438
01:16:29,751 --> 01:16:32,387
a federal and state election.

1439
01:16:32,387 --> 01:16:37,526
This is a huge, heavy lift. So
this deputy is going to have to

1440
01:16:37,526 --> 01:16:41,697
do a lot of extra work, um, to
manage this as well as the rest

1441
01:16:41,697 --> 01:16:43,031
of the team.

1442
01:16:43,031 --> 01:16:44,332
Okay.

1443
01:16:44,332 --> 01:16:47,869
So I'm sorry, just to clarify
your answer. So there, there

1444
01:16:47,869 --> 01:16:53,208
there is an additional, uh,
position or additional title

1445
01:16:53,208 --> 01:16:55,978
that we just can't fill. Is
that. the the gist.

1446
01:16:55,978 --> 01:16:58,547
Of it? Yes. Okay. All right.

1447
01:16:58,547 --> 01:16:59,781
Um.

1448
01:16:59,781 --> 01:17:02,851
I just like to say that that,
uh, Kimberly Irvine does a

1449
01:17:02,851 --> 01:17:05,420
fantastic job, and I don't
think that the clerk's office

1450
01:17:05,420 --> 01:17:10,759
could function without her. Um,
I'm concerned that that that

1451
01:17:10,759 --> 01:17:15,030
we. I think this is a carryover
from from, uh, issues from

1452
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:19,301
before where we didn't find
somebody or we didn't have

1453
01:17:19,301 --> 01:17:22,604
somebody. And, um, that's it.

1454
01:17:22,604 --> 01:17:25,140
Thank you.

1455
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:28,977
For the discussion. Questions.

1456
01:17:28,977 --> 01:17:32,614
We have a motion and support
roll call, please.

1457
01:17:32,614 --> 01:17:33,248
Treasurer Aiello.

1458
01:17:33,248 --> 01:17:34,750
Yes.

1459
01:17:34,750 --> 01:17:35,884
Trustee Matuzak.

1460
01:17:35,884 --> 01:17:36,351
Yes.

1461
01:17:36,351 --> 01:17:37,419
Trustee Wade.

1462
01:17:37,419 --> 01:17:38,453
Yes.

1463
01:17:38,453 --> 01:17:40,155
Trustee Kress.

1464
01:17:40,155 --> 01:17:41,690
No.

1465
01:17:41,690 --> 01:17:42,758
Supervisor. Gieleghem.

1466
01:17:42,758 --> 01:17:43,392
Yes.

1467
01:17:43,392 --> 01:17:44,893
Trustee. King.

1468
01:17:44,893 --> 01:17:45,961
Yes.

1469
01:17:45,961 --> 01:17:48,096
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Motion
passes.

1470
01:17:48,096 --> 01:17:51,867
Okay. Thank you. Board. That
brings us to, uh, public

1471
01:17:51,867 --> 01:17:54,703
comment. Captain. Thank you.

1472
01:17:54,703 --> 01:18:05,113
Sir. Mr. Buschell.

1473
01:18:05,113 --> 01:18:09,451
The board has. And so this is
something for the whole board

1474
01:18:09,451 --> 01:18:13,689
because, uh, under these, uh,
public comment questions

1475
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,892
submitted in written format,
the proper administrative

1476
01:18:16,892 --> 01:18:22,798
department is going to answer
the questions. And, uh, the

1477
01:18:22,798 --> 01:18:25,701
answer that I got, which you
all got, like I said, you use

1478
01:18:25,701 --> 01:18:28,103
each had copies of the permits
that were issued for the, for

1479
01:18:28,103 --> 01:18:30,238
this property before and after.

1480
01:18:30,238 --> 01:18:33,975
Well before years before they
got a site plan and after was

1481
01:18:33,975 --> 01:18:39,481
and uh, it is still listed and
according to, according to the

1482
01:18:39,481 --> 01:18:43,652
answer that we got from our
experts, because this property

1483
01:18:43,652 --> 01:18:47,355
does not have an address, it's
still vacant property. It's

1484
01:18:47,355 --> 01:18:49,458
listed as vacant just because,
you know, even though it is an

1485
01:18:49,458 --> 01:18:52,227
ongoing business that the
township does a lot of business

1486
01:18:52,227 --> 01:18:56,932
with, it is fully stocked and
even overstocked most days. But

1487
01:18:56,932 --> 01:19:00,602
it is listed as vacant. On top
of that, the property record

1488
01:19:00,602 --> 01:19:05,407
that you all were given from
the township assessor. Not only

1489
01:19:05,407 --> 01:19:09,144
is it listed as vacant, it's no
list of what type of road sign

1490
01:19:09,144 --> 01:19:11,513
you know. These are all just
checkoff boxes on the State

1491
01:19:11,513 --> 01:19:15,150
farm. What type of road it's
on, what utilities are

1492
01:19:15,150 --> 01:19:18,220
available, any drainage? You
know, none of this is

1493
01:19:18,220 --> 01:19:21,423
available. On top of that, the
answer stated that all of a

1494
01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:28,897
sudden now masonry walls are
not required for, uh, storage

1495
01:19:28,897 --> 01:19:31,967
areas in industrial areas
unless they're, you know,

1496
01:19:31,967 --> 01:19:35,337
adjacent to a residential,
which this property is at the

1497
01:19:35,337 --> 01:19:39,040
rear across the railroad tracks
are some very highly taxed

1498
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,710
homes. Each home is paying way
more taxes than this particular

1499
01:19:41,710 --> 01:19:45,981
property. And there again,
Township Attorney McGrail has

1500
01:19:45,981 --> 01:19:48,950
noted that, you know, the board
has to ask her the question.

1501
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:51,520
She will not answer any of
these questions unless the

1502
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,658
board member asks her. And I
guess I would ask tonight that

1503
01:19:56,658 --> 01:19:58,827
unless you're all willing to
take all of our addresses away.

1504
01:19:58,827 --> 01:20:02,664
So we're all vacant properties,
which is according you have to

1505
01:20:02,664 --> 01:20:06,868
realize that they really go by
the parcel number, not the

1506
01:20:06,868 --> 01:20:09,004
address. That is the most
ridiculous answer I've ever

1507
01:20:09,004 --> 01:20:11,706
seen. As most of you know, I've
been involved in taxes.

1508
01:20:11,706 --> 01:20:16,378
Property taxes for over 45
years and was part of the

1509
01:20:16,378 --> 01:20:20,615
Headley Amendment and proposed
laid, uh, these answers I am

1510
01:20:20,615 --> 01:20:24,052
you know, they're your board
answers. It's your policy. You

1511
01:20:24,052 --> 01:20:26,555
each get a copy of it. You each
had a copy of the permits. You

1512
01:20:26,555 --> 01:20:31,026
realize the footage of the
fencing, which was illegal

1513
01:20:31,026 --> 01:20:34,696
because it was fencing and not
masonry wall. The footage of

1514
01:20:34,696 --> 01:20:37,833
how many was put in way before,
you know, two and a half years

1515
01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:41,536
before you ever went for a site
plan. Uh, covers way more than

1516
01:20:41,536 --> 01:20:42,837
the back part of the property.

1517
01:20:42,837 --> 01:20:46,308
Trust me. The only, you know,
permit on this property after

1518
01:20:46,308 --> 01:20:51,646
the site plan was to adjust the
gates in the front. I think

1519
01:20:51,646 --> 01:20:54,449
it's a shame that we are paying
such. Everybody's been, you

1520
01:20:54,449 --> 01:20:58,186
know, they're paying their
taxes on their property. We all

1521
01:20:58,186 --> 01:21:02,257
would love this board if you if
this board is accepting because

1522
01:21:02,257 --> 01:21:06,161
there's no address there. It's
a vacant property. Please take

1523
01:21:06,161 --> 01:21:09,231
away all the addresses in the
township. It'd be only fair to,

1524
01:21:09,231 --> 01:21:10,799
you know, to your electors.

1525
01:21:10,799 --> 01:21:15,570
Thank you.

1526
01:21:15,570 --> 01:21:20,408
Seeing no further public
participation, um, trustee

1527
01:21:20,408 --> 01:21:21,409
King.

1528
01:21:21,409 --> 01:21:23,078
Mr. supervisor, may I speak as
a resident?

1529
01:21:23,078 --> 01:21:24,445
Certainly.

1530
01:21:24,445 --> 01:21:29,584
Thank you. Um. I'm not trying
to admonish this board or speak

1531
01:21:29,584 --> 01:21:32,287
rudely to anyone here because
everyone has their votes and

1532
01:21:32,287 --> 01:21:36,958
they do it for a particular
reason. What I am frustrated

1533
01:21:36,958 --> 01:21:40,695
about is that a couple of
months ago, we did have some

1534
01:21:40,695 --> 01:21:43,899
residents that came here and
some families that wanted to do

1535
01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:50,572
a camp overnight, and we found
every which reason as a board

1536
01:21:50,572 --> 01:21:52,974
as a whole, right? Because I'm
not going to single anyone out.

1537
01:21:52,974 --> 01:21:57,913
We all when we vote, we vote as
one. Right? But we found so

1538
01:21:57,913 --> 01:22:01,449
many reasons why they couldn't
move forward and camp overnight

1539
01:22:01,449 --> 01:22:05,720
at Prince Drewry Park. However,
we extended a lot of mental

1540
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,457
gymnastics and flexibility
tonight to be able to let an

1541
01:22:09,457 --> 01:22:13,728
adult store nothing against
adult stores, but to have some

1542
01:22:13,728 --> 01:22:19,200
type of festival with fire and
all other types of things. I'm

1543
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,736
not saying that they're going
to be irresponsible, and I'm

1544
01:22:21,736 --> 01:22:24,306
not saying that they don't have
a right to be able to do what

1545
01:22:24,306 --> 01:22:26,775
they would like to do. I just
wish that we would have offered

1546
01:22:26,775 --> 01:22:30,312
some flexibility to our
residents. Um, who came and

1547
01:22:30,312 --> 01:22:34,149
wanted to add something that
just about any family, any

1548
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:37,786
person could, could hopefully
have adjoined enjoyed. That's

1549
01:22:37,786 --> 01:22:38,753
it.

1550
01:22:38,753 --> 01:22:40,922
Yeah. Mr. Buschell yep.

1551
01:22:40,922 --> 01:22:43,058
Thank you.

1552
01:22:43,058 --> 01:22:45,794
Thank you.

1553
01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:48,930
Uh, motion to adjourn is in
order.

1554
01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:51,599
I'll second that.

1555
01:22:51,599 --> 01:22:55,370
Roll call please.

1556
01:22:55,370 --> 01:22:56,004
Trustee Matuzak.

1557
01:22:56,004 --> 01:22:56,938
Yes.

1558
01:22:56,938 --> 01:22:57,639
Treasurer Aiello.

1559
01:22:57,639 --> 01:22:59,607
Yes.

1560
01:22:59,607 --> 01:23:00,141
Trustee Wade.

1561
01:23:00,141 --> 01:23:00,642
Yes.

1562
01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:01,676
Trustee Kress.

1563
01:23:01,676 --> 01:23:02,277
Yes.

1564
01:23:02,277 --> 01:23:03,278
Supervisor. Gieleghem.

1565
01:23:03,278 --> 01:23:03,611
Yes.

1566
01:23:03,611 --> 01:23:04,011
Trustee.

1567
01:23:04,011 --> 01:23:04,678
King. Yes.

1568
01:23:04,678 --> 01:23:05,981
Clerk Meltzer. Yes. Motion