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All right, it's 930. We're going to call the community

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service, protection and economical. Development standing committee to order. The

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traditional acknowledgment, the town of Coberg respectfully acknowledges that we

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are located in the traditional treaty territory of the Mississauga

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and Chippewa nations. Collectively known as Williams Treaty's first nation,

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including. Curve, Lake Hawatha, Alderville, Scoogog Island, Rama, Bozolay and

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Georgina Islands First Nation the town of Coberg respectfully acknowledges

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that the Williams trees First Nation have been Stewarts and

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caretakers of these lands and waters and that today remain

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vigilant. Over their. Health and integrity. For generations to come.

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We are all treaty people. At this time, the introduction

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of the denim items is 3.1. It is there on

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the agenda. It's the notice of motion from the mayor.

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At this time, we're going to. Confirm the agenda. Can

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I have a mover? Councilor Bureau. Your worship. Any questions?

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Or discussion on any items on that. Just so the

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committee is aware that the clerk's department did add that

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correspondence from Gail. Raymont. To the parking issue, so that's

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excellent. I appreciate. Stop doing that. So if there's. No

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discussion. All those in favor? Opposed of any it's carried.

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At this point, are there any disclosure interest from members

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of council. Okay seeing none. We are going to go

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on to community announcements. Are there any announcements? From the

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other members of the committee. No. I just have one

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at this point. And. It's just to, at this time,

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to thank the Highland games. Committee. Volunteers, organizers, everyone involved.

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Obviously, that came out. For their many years in Coberg.

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They've been a fixture in the community since 1963, and

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I just want to acknowledge them. And wish them the

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best luck in their move to port Hoke to a

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larger area and success for many years. And that this

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time. That. Staff sent along a note of thanks as

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well. From the department and all of us at the

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town of Cowork. Okay. Are there any other things? Okay,

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we'll move on. To. There's no delegations, so at this

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time we have an outside. Presentation. From the dbia. Can

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I have a mover on that? And then Mr. Larmer

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will read that. Your worship. Councilor Bureau. Mr. Larmer. I

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guess you're going to be reading that out. I understand.

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Yeah. Through your worship. So the dbi. Sorry? Through you,

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Mr. Chair. The DBI. Has actually added. Just a correspondence

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piece to this. So just to speak to there. They

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couldn't be here. Today. Just. It didn't work with conflict,

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so they just asked that I read it out, just.

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For the standing committee that's okay to proceed. Okay, so

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this is from Heath Herring, and he's the downtown business

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improvement area board chair. And this is just in relation

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to the letter they sent on recommendations on parking for

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downtown Colbert. So I'm running behalf of the downtown business

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approving area board of Management to express our appreciation for

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the town Cobra's ongoing efforts in implementing a new parking

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program while recognizing the strides made. Our members have raised

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many concerns regarding the persistent challenges of downtown parking, which

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we believe continue to act a significant. Barrier for both

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downtown merchants and patrons. During a regular meeting on January

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11, 2024, the DBIA Board of Management passed a resolution

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to provide a recommendation to cover council driven by our

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mandate. To advocate for our members and promote the economic

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fatality of downtown Colbert. As you're aware the downtown corps

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plays a pivotal role as. A driver for community economic

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development, and addressing the challenges associated with parking is crucial

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to fostering a thriving business environment. Therefore. In an effort

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to alleviate these concerns and enhance the overall downtown experience,

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the DBA board of management wished to submit a written

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delegation to covert council's committee at the February 7, 09:30

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a.m. Standing committee we proposed the following recommendations. One, introduce

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a monthly or annual parking pass for downtown business. CIS

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and employees. This measure will provide a cost effective convenience

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solution for those who work and operate businesses in the

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downtown area. Two introduce a 30 minutes grace period for

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patrons running a quick errand or picking up. An order.

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The grace period aims to accommodate short visits to promoting

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a more flexible and customer friendly parking policy. Three implement

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free parking after 04:00 p.m. From Monday to Saturday. And

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free parking on Sundays. Free evening and weekend parking will

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encourage increased patriarch during these periods, contributing to a vibrant

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downtown atmosphere. We strongly recommend that council properly adopts these

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recommendations, effective immediately, to convey a positive message of support

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for the downtown corps by implementing these measures. We believe

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the downtown Colbert demonstrate its commitment to fostering a thriving

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business environment, enhancing the overall experience for both business and

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patrons alike. We appreciate your attention to this matter and

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ask that our recommendation. Be read aloud loud as a

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delegation February 7. Thank you for your continued dedication to

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economic fatality in the downtown culture. Sincerely, Keith Harring. Thank

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you, Mr. Larmer. Are there any questions? Discussion from members

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of the committee. Councilor. Darling, do you have anything? Okay.

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Just the comments. It's my understanding. That from Mr. Larmer

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that his department will be bringing back that overall. Parking.

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Information as council asked in the past. So I think

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this is going to be a part of it. And

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I agree that. With. The I think it's very critically

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important that. We make sure that we do things to

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encourage people to shop in the downtown and make sure

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that we have a vibrant downtown and business community. So

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if there's no other discussion at this time. I'll call

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the vote. All those in favor? You guys moved it

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initially, which is the receiver for information purposes, because it's

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going back. Okay. So, all those in favor? Opposed. If

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any, it's carried. So this time we're going to be

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moving on to the. Cassette agenda. Are there any items.

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That anyone would like to remove from the consent agenda

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or do we have any speakers to any of them,

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Mr. Lemmer, okay? 9.2. Any other items you'd like to

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remove? Just have further discussion. Okay. Sounds good. So at

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this time. Just before we vote on that, I just

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like to thank the staff for getting. Some of these

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items onto the agenda and work. Particularly. Ron Bolt park

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naming. I know the directors worked diligently to get that.

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appropriate, so I just like to show them my appreciation

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of getting that. Onto the agenda. Do any of the

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directors want to speak to any of these items briefly?

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Director Taylor Scott. Thank you, chair. Just briefly, I'll touch

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on the economic Development Annual report that includes the venture

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13 activity as well. So I'm pleased to bring forward.

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The second annual report from the. Economic Development Department. Mr.

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Van Campin sends his regress this morning, but I'm happy.

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Just to give a brief overview of this annual report.

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The report itself is included as attachment one to the

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staff report. There's no recommendation contained. In the report. It's

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very much a good news story, and we respectfully request

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that it be received. For information. I'll just make. A

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few brief highlights and some key takeaways. This annual report

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does build on the department. 's 2023. Economic development strategic

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plan that was specific to all of the development activities

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in that department, including venture 13. And the facility itself.

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staff report and the strategic plan itself. For anyone that

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needs a refresher on what those five initiatives are. So

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just briefly, the five pillars include downtown development. Business retention

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and expansion. Investment readiness. Small business. Innovators and entrepreneurs. And

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workforce development and youth engagement. So everything contained in the

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annual report links back to those five strategic pillars and

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demonstrates all of the work within the department, within active

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and within venture. 13 how those offerings link back to

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these five pillars. So. Whether that's development at Lucas Point

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and facilitating investment readiness. Engaging the youth and workforce through

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the programming, through STEM camps, and whether it's through business.

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Retention and expansion. All the training offering the revenue growth

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series, bringing in speakers from local industries and sharing their

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good news stories with the development industry. So all of

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this and more is contained. In the annual report, you'll

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also see a number of key performance indicators that we

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are currently tracking, and we will be reporting. On growth

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and activity year over year based on those key performance

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indicators, like how many deaths are used at venture 13.

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There's currently 16 available and 15 currently occupied. So tracking

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those measurables and reporting on those year over year, tracking

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attendance and participation at events as well. And looking forward

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to 2024. We'll continue with this strong foundation that Mr.

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Van Campin and his team led last year and is

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scaling up all of those activities. For example, just this

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week. The 2024 March break stem camp. Registration opened, and

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instead of one week, which was held last year and

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which was a great success, we're looking to scale that

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up to three weeks in 2024. Just a small example.

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Of how we see the facility in the department growing.

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And the report wraps up by tying this all back

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to the town's broader strategic plan. So it really hits

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home on the thriving town pillar and also the service

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excellence. And I think. This report, in and of itself

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is an example of service, excellence and telling the story

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of all of our activity that happened in 2023. So

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happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Any questions from

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members of the committee? Just a comment. Okay, councilor bureau.

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Thank you. Because I think that's so informative. Come next

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budget time to understand the different statistics and to see

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that the future moving and economic development. I think that's

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great. So thank you for that. Yes. Thank you for

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putting together that quick synopsis. And appreciate the updates and

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the evolving reporting data back because obviously that's helpful for

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council. In future budgets and where we see where you're

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going. Does anyone want to speak to? The enforcement numbers

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at all. Mr. Larmer. Mr. Lemmer. Will highlight it. Yes.

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So thank you, Mr. Chair to members council. Just this

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is again similar to the director of plane development. Our

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manager, Miss Law enforcement, has created the second annual just

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admissible. Law enforcement licensing services report. It's pretty similar information

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from 2022. Just with the updated stats from 2023, you

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see an increase in activity and compliance and complaints. I

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think one of the ones I just really want to

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highlight because I think it speaks for itself. Is the

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administrative monetary penalty system stats. For 2023, which we started

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about March or April. So we had a little bit

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month delay last year. Just we were trying to onboard

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it, so. Now we're entering our first full year of

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that, so. This is just probably April, May, June, July.

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just what we've diverted from the court systems and we

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push through our system. So out of the 1667 amps,

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tickets issued there is pre Poa part two. Tickets issued

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this just reflects the amps for that year. It tells

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you that there was 337 adjudications and screenings and hearings

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conduct itself. So those represent what would have been put

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through the court process through, adjust the piece. Through those

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provincial offenses processes which are a lot more complicated, I

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say, with administration proxies. And what our system is. I

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believe that individuals are wishing to adjudicate. Their tickets. It's

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happening within weeks and less than a month to actually

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get in front of a hearing officer. Sorry, screening officer,

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to review their tickets, and then not too long after

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that. A similar time frame if they were to peel

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it to the hearing officer itself. So just. Good numbers

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as part of that. And we'll just update in the

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previous, we'll just update the department updates. We'll kind of

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give the stats on some of the misspalies are actually

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looking towards. Us and our managers actually working with them

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to create a similar approach. What we've do doing here

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as well, too. And just lastly, I think it's just

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important to note that the great thing about this report,

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and I thank the manager for putting it forward for

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the public. But also counsel. It also describes these serverless

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agreements and kind of gives the public and council indication

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of how long. Each incident. Is taking and what we

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look to. Standards for customer service and individuals couldn't get

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ideas. Based on offense and the complications of eastern investigations.

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But I think our officers, this council has done. A

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good job to help us, assist us with putting more

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people power in the departments to help. To have that

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better customer service related. And you'll see those numbers and

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the timelines compress and decrease thanks to the leadership of

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our manager. Excellent. Thank you. Are there any questions or

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comments from members of council? Councilor darling. Thank you, Mr.

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Gormer. In reading this, and you're saying your adjudications and

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screening hearings that would have went to poa. Part of

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our. Services. To the communities to try and find efficiencies.

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So I would assume that by these not making it

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to the POa. This is saving a huge amount of

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staff time down the road. Could you comment on that?

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Mr. Lehrman. Yes. Definitely saving a lot of staff time.

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When the tig was issued for part two. Let's say

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those are majority of our tickets, which were previous parking

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offenses under the Provincial Offenses act. When somebody wanted to

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appeal that ticket. They were going probably between 18 to

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20 months to actually get their ticket appealed, and they

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were. Constantly contact her office to see how that's working.

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How do I get resolved all those things now. We're

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doing it within weeks. Also in the POA process, there's

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a lot of work. That we have to work within

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the legislation on timelines, processes, all those things. They're greatly

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reduced now. It's the ticket. We have a screening officer

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with staff member. Takes ten to 20 minutes. Maybe at

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most. And then, depending on how it works out, the

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person usually leads satisfied. And if not, they have another

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step where they can appeal the process. So I would

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say this is saving huge amount of times. In our

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offices just outside of the provincial offense system itself, and

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customer service has been hugely increased. I think council may

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be getting less complaints in regard doing that, and I

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know our office is seeing less complaints related to. That

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process as well, and the courts have thanked us many

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times. You're taking this out of them because we were

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presenting a large amount of adjudications. Or court hearings to

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them, and it's greatly reduced their caseload. And now in

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Northland county they can focus on. The more complicated offenses,

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the more provincial offenses, like speeding of those things. And

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we're not. Jamming up the court systems for some things

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like this. Thank you very much. Virtual armor. Excellent. Any

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other comments or questions from the members. Okay, perfect. Yeah.

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And I'd just like to say. Yeah. Thank you, Mr.

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Larmer, and your department. I think this is a very

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positive, good news story. That. Shows something. That. We're making

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things a little bit more effective. In the town of

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Colbert. And I believe this gets our money to us

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a lot faster in this way as well, which is

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a positive thing, and. We're not losing money for time

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and staffing time. Your worship. Try that one. There we

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go. Through you chair. Thank you. To Mr. Larmer. Have

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we written to any other municipalities within north Orblin county

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and offering our amp services at this time. Is that

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a possibility? I know there's been talks about in the

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past. And are we. In a place now where we

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could actually. Provide. Court services for other municipalities. Mr.

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Larmer. We have in the discussions with the Thomas county

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municipalities in regards to the AmPS process. I won't speak

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for the manager of law enforcement, but we are in

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a unique position. Where our manager actually was one of

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the first municipalities on terror through Oshawa to bring ants

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to systems. So he's an expert and bring it forward.

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A lot of the other misspalities are coming to us

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and saying, want to get started? We want to do

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this. I don't think you know how much work it

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involves and how much dedication. At the start upload, so

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we're trying to navigate them. We have been. Probably almost

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all of them have asked us about it. We've always

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opened our door that we're ready to talk. We're happy

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to enter a degree with you. We have endorsements from

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this council to do that. They're trying out on their

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own. They have the ability to do that, but I

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would say. With council's extra assistance with the staffing, with

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the clerk, that we are more up. To be able

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to take on these agreements and to a system where

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we can to try to drive. Some of their offenses.

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The end goals of getting compliance faster for them as

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well, too, and helping the courts again. Deflate how much

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activity they're seeing as well. Perfect. Thank you through the

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chair to Mayor Cleveland as well. At the CAO meetings,

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we meet regularly. We continue to discuss. Shared services or

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the ability for those municipalities who have particular service areas

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that others do not, that there's an opportunity potentially for

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purchase service. Or agreements in place. So we always highlight

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where those opportunities exist for those municipalities. It would be

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a lot more cost. Effective. With some particular services, potentially

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to get into agreements with other municipalities rather than onboarding

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specific staff. So we continue to highlight those opportunities as

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well. So just wanted council to be aware of that.

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Excellent. Any follow up? Okay, perfect. At this time. We

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will receive. Or take action on the consent agenda items.

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I think I need to move her in a second.

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Councilor bureau. Did I get one? No, I didn't. So,

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Councilor Borough. And your worship, or are you good to

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say that? Okay. All those in favor? It's carried. Now

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we're on to the extracted items. Which we've got the

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one item extracted at this time. I'm looking for a

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mover. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, I'd like to actually talk

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about it, if that's okay. With you chair. I think

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we got to put it on the floor for sorry.

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Through your chair to my council members and to the

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director. I think this may have hit the end of

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the road at this point, and based off some of

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the information that's come forward regarding the firefighters museum, I

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think that there may be a better alternative coming down

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the pipeline in terms of places to go and arrangements

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to be had. And I'm just looking at all the

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issues at hand. In terms of the current allocation of

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that space. And my suggestion at this point is maybe

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that. We set up a meeting instead of continuing down

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this pathway, that we instead set up a meeting. With

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the Firefighters museum to share some information about a potential

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other site and or new allocations. This is 9.2 says

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that we just sort of receive and move forward with

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the current. Arrangement. My concern is that we're sending a

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group of individuals down a path that isn't. Going to

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lead to necessarily a good place. And at this time,

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maybe we should stop. That have an honest conversation with

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them about alternative options so that we can relook at

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the possible uses for the memorial Arena. It's just a

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conversation, a topic. And I'd love to hear from director

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Gertz. At this time and or the council. The reason

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I extracted it is to have this. Conversation on this

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floor so that we can start talking about it. As.

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There have been new. Potential developments recently, which may provide

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a better opportunity for a local fire hall museum. Okay,

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before we go to director goots, I'm just going to

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move the motion that's on the agenda for the time

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being, and then if the mayor has an amendment later.

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He can put that after we have discussion. So I'm

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going to move it. Do I? Have a seconder, your

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worship. So it's on the floor. Director dirt. If you

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could speak to it before we get into more discussion.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the opportunity. To explain

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the I won't repeat much of the information that's in

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the report. But. I did just want to kind of

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shape or highlight the point in time that we're at

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right now. So, as you know from working with me

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over the past couple of years, I'm a planner, like

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to look quite a ways ahead and. We've had very

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successful small peak planner. Not to your level.

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But we've had very effective discussions with the firefighters museum.

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It's been very interesting working with the group. Each member

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of the board brings a unique skill set to the

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table and they work effectively as a team to solve

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issues. We've come a long way. So I don't want

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my staff report kind of at the midpoint of our

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time. To insinuate. That. Anything is. Soured or is not

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working effectively, but. What I am signaling with my report

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is as far as the leeway or discretion that I

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have. As staff negotiator, I have run out of wiggle

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room and. I'm open to additional direction if council sees

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fit. So what I've been working with. To date, council

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hasn't given me a specific range of details to negotiate

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within, but. Since the curling club and the memorial arena

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are on the same site and both are similar buildings,

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sharing a facility I've been working with. The same constraints

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as the Jack Heenan. Arena lease since. That council has

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approved in the past that package of information. So that's

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the introduction and the context for my staff report. I

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look forward to. So if council passes the motion as

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presented, I look forward to further discussions. And negotiations with

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the firefighters museum. We may come. To. An agreement or

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a lease, and I'll come back to counsel. With that

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signed document for endorsement. If it's within the constraints that

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I currently have, I'd be happy to do so, but.

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I didn't want to let a whole year pass without

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an opportunity. For capsule. To make any suggestions or alterations.

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We are at the point where a lot of the

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practical things have been figured out, at least. At a

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basic level. Firefighters museum has been very diligent. Freebiting the

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building, bringing in specialists, getting advice. Asking lots of questions,

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really figuring out what the opportunities of that building are.

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An arena built from in 1950, has a lot more

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in common with a barn than any other building. It's

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an unheated roof and walls, and even the whole floor

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isn't. Even finished. Half of the floor is dirt. So

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when you try to convert that into any modern use.

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It's difficult and expensive. That being said, the zoning of

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the site. Is institutional, which precludes quite a few different

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commercial or other uses. So when we went through the

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RFP process looking for proposals from the community. We didn't

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get a long list of great uses for that building.

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So if it turns out. If the Firefighters museum is

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successful and they figure out a business plan that will

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work for them. In that facility. I'd be happy to

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recommend to council that we lease that to them. At

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the right time. But also. If they determine. You know

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what? This isn't the best facility for us. I'm also

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glad to support that because we certainly don't want to

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force fit anything and paint them into a corner that's

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not appropriate for them. I wouldn't want to do that

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for any charitable organization. So happy to support them along

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the way. But we are at a point where it's

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important to talk about money. So there's a bit of

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context. In the report, Jack Heenan. Lease includes about $20,000

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a year in revenue and based on the 2024 budget,

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The town pays about $50,000 a year for a maintenance

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of the facility. So if Memorial arena lease included another

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$20,000 in revenue, for example, then the town would continue

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to pay about $30,000 in costs for that site. So

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if you are interested, I have a table I could

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put up on the screen that has a few different

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scenarios. If you're interested in seeing that. For context. For

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those who are used to looking at commercial leases. Now,

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this is far from a commercially appropriate site. But just

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so you get a business. Sense. The buildings are both

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about have 25,000 usable space. Usable. As old arena buildings.

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So, as base rent, that's 28.8 cents per square foot.

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So that's what the current agreements have, so it's not

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a lot of money. But it is more than zero.

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So be happy to put that chart up on the

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screen or antsy. Any further questions at this time. Yes,

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we can get the chart up on the screen. I

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think that'd be helpful. For the members. I did. Yeah,

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I'm still on. Just sharing now. While he's doing that,

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are there any questions from the committee at this time?

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Or councilor? Bureau and then, your worship. I know that

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we did this last time and we started negotiating and

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stuff. How much time and. Effort and money has the

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Canadian Firefighter museum put into this so far. Through the

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chair. I haven't asked for that number, but the Firefed

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museum does have access to the building. For investigative purposes,

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and they've run one very successful fundraiser, so I would

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suspect it is. Hundreds of hours. Get a nod from

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will? Absolutely. So hundreds of hours would be the broad

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estimate. And before we go to this, your worship. Yeah,

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I think it's a good question, because. I think one

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of the things is the amount of work and effort

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that has been put forward. By the firefighters museum. Has

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not gone unnoticed. It's one of the reasons why I

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sort of, in my role, as mayor, as I've been

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sort of working through this and speaking with some provincial

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counterparts, And sort of looking at our fire master plan

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and looking at opportunities in the very near future. Because

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of the exemplary work, effort and forethought of this group,

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I've actually been working to find a solution that would

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be better for them than. The current building. Seeing that

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there are a lot of problems, seeing that we're looking

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at close to potentially a million dollars in retrofits to

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make this building appropriate. I just think. That there's better

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ways to spend a million dollars than in retrofitting an

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old building. And so one of the things that I'd

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like to talk about is maybe amending this motion to

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basically have a conversation with both staff and the firefighters

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museum. About some alternative options that may be coming apparent

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in the very near future. In covert. And so in

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no way, shape or form am I looking to shut

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this down in. No way, shape or form am I

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looking to get in the way of the incredible work

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these volunteers have been doing. It's actually as a way

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of maybe finding a better location and a better solution

471
00:31:41,209 --> 00:31:42,924
for them. So that's one of the reasons I wanted

472
00:31:43,209 --> 00:31:45,524
to have this. Conversation today is to take into account

473
00:31:45,849 --> 00:31:48,441
that we're looking at potentially a million dollars. In work

474
00:31:48,486 --> 00:31:50,761
that could be done. We're looking at it. Not necessarily

475
00:31:51,126 --> 00:31:54,081
the best use of this space. And I guess the

476
00:31:54,126 --> 00:31:56,761
question I'd have is to the director of planning what?

477
00:31:56,806 --> 00:31:59,521
Kind of effort would it take to rezone this area

478
00:32:00,406 --> 00:32:03,521
specifically to a residential zone, knowing that we currently have

479
00:32:03,846 --> 00:32:13,542
a residential and housing crisis. Director Taylor Scott. Sure

480
00:32:13,947 --> 00:32:18,906
happy to. Through the chair. So the property is a

481
00:32:18,951 --> 00:32:22,066
major institutional site currently reflective of the current use. It

482
00:32:22,111 --> 00:32:26,408
also has an institutional zoning on the property. It's not

483
00:32:26,533 --> 00:32:31,975
zoned for broad residential uses at this time. When we

484
00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:37,595
look at redevelopment or intensification. That is when, as planning

485
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,635
staff, we look to all the policy documents that guide

486
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,155
our recommendations and our work. That would include the provincial

487
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,755
policy statement, the county official plan, the town's official. Plan,

488
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,115
the growth plan and the zoning bylaw. So we work

489
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,693
through all those documents to inform. What the best use

490
00:32:54,858 --> 00:32:59,502
based on the community structure should be. The policies in

491
00:32:59,547 --> 00:33:08,746
and around redevelopment of a major institutional use. Largely. Land

492
00:33:09,151 --> 00:33:13,453
in the realm of residential. There's a series of criteria

493
00:33:13,778 --> 00:33:18,513
in our official plan. That speak to when an institutional

494
00:33:18,558 --> 00:33:23,083
use ceases to operate. There's a set number of criteria

495
00:33:23,128 --> 00:33:26,454
that we look at. And it's set the path forward

496
00:33:26,659 --> 00:33:30,654
because we know institutional uses like schools cease over time.

497
00:33:32,369 --> 00:33:36,044
They consolidate. They move on. We've seen other instances, for

498
00:33:36,089 --> 00:33:39,524
example, on Durham street. So the official plan is forward

499
00:33:39,689 --> 00:33:43,164
thinking and that it sets out criteria for the next

500
00:33:43,569 --> 00:33:46,022
wave of land use. That comes along. So we look

501
00:33:46,307 --> 00:33:50,686
to those criteria. It's predominantly residential. It could be another

502
00:33:50,851 --> 00:33:57,341
institutional like use. And. There's criteria about servicing, about traffic.

503
00:33:57,666 --> 00:34:01,495
So all these factors then come into play. Once that

504
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:06,664
institutional use ceases. It also would set the path forward

505
00:34:07,109 --> 00:34:13,433
for a rezoning. Because the lands are zoned institutional at

506
00:34:13,838 --> 00:34:18,365
present. Any major redevelopment into the realm of residential would

507
00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:22,885
require rezoning. But that rezoning would be weighed against all

508
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:26,885
of those criteria in our official plan on the redevelopment

509
00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:34,102
of the property. So. It's complex, but at the same

510
00:34:34,107 --> 00:34:37,462
time it's fairly straightforward because of the forward thinking policies

511
00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:41,333
in our official plan. Thank you. Thank you, Director Taylor

512
00:34:41,378 --> 00:34:49,297
Scott, for that. Are there any questions? Or comments from

513
00:34:49,382 --> 00:34:55,037
members of the committee. Councilor, bureau. Yeah, I apologize. I

514
00:34:55,082 --> 00:34:57,917
missed Wednesday, last Wednesday's meeting, so I didn't hear the

515
00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:03,403
update from the firefighters museum. My apologies for that, but

516
00:35:03,488 --> 00:35:11,923
to me. If they're happy. With continuing negotiations. With community

517
00:35:12,408 --> 00:35:14,723
services. I don't see how now would be a good

518
00:35:15,088 --> 00:35:17,963
time to take all the work that's been done with

519
00:35:18,008 --> 00:35:21,609
staff time and their time. And the work that has

520
00:35:21,694 --> 00:35:25,289
been done to stop there and go to another location.

521
00:35:26,368 --> 00:35:28,763
If they're happy with the location that they're in now.

522
00:35:30,292 --> 00:35:33,447
And the negotiations still are in. If one of the

523
00:35:33,452 --> 00:35:34,928
parties said, you know what, it's not going to work,

524
00:35:35,252 --> 00:35:38,429
then. I can see that, but. I think, to be

525
00:35:38,474 --> 00:35:41,766
honest. After putting. How many years has this been going

526
00:35:41,811 --> 00:35:46,547
on too? Like two, maybe three. I think to stop

527
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,147
that work now and to move it to another location.

528
00:35:51,619 --> 00:35:55,263
Is it wrong? Thank you for the comments, councilor bureau.

529
00:35:55,628 --> 00:35:58,743
Your worship. Yeah, just double checking with council bureau. Did

530
00:35:58,788 --> 00:36:00,943
you see the letter that was dated February 2 from

531
00:36:01,308 --> 00:36:04,023
the museum? I did not. Okay, so just. So we're

532
00:36:04,068 --> 00:36:06,223
clear in that letter? We're being made very clear that

533
00:36:06,308 --> 00:36:08,983
in order for this to proceed covert council has to

534
00:36:09,228 --> 00:36:13,706
be prepared for a million dollars in rent forgiveness. I

535
00:36:13,751 --> 00:36:15,746
just want to be very clear that what the expectation

536
00:36:16,071 --> 00:36:19,186
is moving forward is that they're very happy with the

537
00:36:19,231 --> 00:36:22,234
building. On the assumption that we are going to forgive

538
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,874
a million dollars plus in rent. So I just. Want

539
00:36:24,879 --> 00:36:28,003
to be clear. That's the problem. I'm pointing out here.

540
00:36:28,088 --> 00:36:30,203
So there is a problem, and the problem is very

541
00:36:30,248 --> 00:36:34,243
clearly that. As of we are now knowledgeable through the

542
00:36:34,528 --> 00:36:38,356
report and. That this is not going to be a

543
00:36:38,441 --> 00:36:41,156
zero expense to covert. We're looking at approximately a million

544
00:36:41,561 --> 00:36:44,716
dollar expense. And so that's the problem I'm seeing, is

545
00:36:45,041 --> 00:36:48,236
that this isn't. A project that doesn't have massive cost

546
00:36:48,601 --> 00:36:51,922
to it. And again, I'm not saying that. We don't

547
00:36:52,247 --> 00:36:54,162
necessarily spend the money. What I'm saying is that there

548
00:36:54,407 --> 00:36:57,762
are other alternatives that have very recently become available, which

549
00:36:58,127 --> 00:37:02,082
I think are more suited, that would be more appropriate.

550
00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:05,922
And that could have more funding opportunities for a better,

551
00:37:06,287 --> 00:37:10,042
successful agreement. Again, not looking to stop this. Simply taking

552
00:37:10,447 --> 00:37:12,059
all of the great work that's been done. And putting

553
00:37:12,744 --> 00:37:15,059
it in a different lane or an opportunity of a

554
00:37:15,064 --> 00:37:17,699
different lane moving forward so it's not stopping. What it

555
00:37:17,704 --> 00:37:21,619
is is looking at alternative arrangements. Based on very recent

556
00:37:21,704 --> 00:37:24,819
information, we've received that this is not the ideal building

557
00:37:25,464 --> 00:37:28,299
without a million dollars plus in leasehold. Improvements. So that's

558
00:37:28,544 --> 00:37:30,859
where it's coming from. It's not a stopping we do

559
00:37:30,904 --> 00:37:33,397
know there's problems. They've been very clear with their problems

560
00:37:33,762 --> 00:37:36,317
from that letter. And that letter is stating, hey. Just

561
00:37:36,362 --> 00:37:37,877
so council is aware, in order for this to move

562
00:37:38,242 --> 00:37:41,677
forward, we're looking at potentially a million dollars. So that's

563
00:37:41,722 --> 00:37:44,357
where my concern is, saying that, hey, we can't. Be

564
00:37:44,722 --> 00:37:48,109
even. Let's not follow this down if we already know

565
00:37:48,154 --> 00:37:50,029
where it's going and it's a million dollars in forgiveness.

566
00:37:51,182 --> 00:37:54,377
Councilor bureau. I agree with you. A million dollars. When

567
00:37:54,702 --> 00:37:57,377
you say that is a big price. Tag, but if

568
00:37:57,662 --> 00:38:02,189
you look at all the other museums we support, Like,

569
00:38:02,274 --> 00:38:04,189
for instance, the firehouse. We take care of that building,

570
00:38:04,514 --> 00:38:08,864
the Murray Dressler house, the sift and Cook Museum. We

571
00:38:08,909 --> 00:38:12,184
do lots of different things. And to retrofit an arena.

572
00:38:12,549 --> 00:38:13,904
At the time, we knew that it was going to

573
00:38:13,909 --> 00:38:16,864
be such a big project to overhaul, but we also

574
00:38:16,909 --> 00:38:21,241
agreed that. It would be an ideal spot and location.

575
00:38:22,188 --> 00:38:24,823
For that use of the arena. So to me, I

576
00:38:24,828 --> 00:38:29,088
would still like to see that. The talks be gone

577
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:32,448
through our director in the museum and see what they

578
00:38:32,493 --> 00:38:34,808
both come up with. To move forward in the recommendations

579
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:39,207
from there instead of us. Which I'm sure that director

580
00:38:39,452 --> 00:38:42,647
Gertz, who come up with different locations or different. Ideas.

581
00:38:42,652 --> 00:38:46,007
And that would happen in all those meetings. But I

582
00:38:46,052 --> 00:38:48,887
just think we should continue. In the way it's going

583
00:38:49,292 --> 00:38:52,324
now. There's always going to be costs. Always going to

584
00:38:52,329 --> 00:38:55,964
be costs when you're supporting something as a museum. It's

585
00:38:56,009 --> 00:39:01,987
me. The cultural master plan, which. Was to me what

586
00:39:02,032 --> 00:39:04,707
a very well done plan. I think we need to

587
00:39:04,712 --> 00:39:06,627
start following that and. Get back to our roots on

588
00:39:06,632 --> 00:39:09,747
that culture, bringing back the tourism, bringing back all of

589
00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:13,851
that, and I think that area on Furnace Street. Having

590
00:39:14,336 --> 00:39:18,771
that memorial arena done as a firefighters museum is not

591
00:39:18,816 --> 00:39:22,913
only keeping. The heritage part alive, but it's also keeping.

592
00:39:24,101 --> 00:39:28,041
The building. To me. I know it's going to cost

593
00:39:28,446 --> 00:39:32,353
money. We knew that before. And I think just continue

594
00:39:32,758 --> 00:39:38,527
with ongoing negotiations. Thank you, councilor bureaus. So just a

595
00:39:38,572 --> 00:39:41,727
clarity to the clerk, this item here goes to. The

596
00:39:41,772 --> 00:39:44,967
regular council meeting, and then there will be a fulsome

597
00:39:45,292 --> 00:39:51,083
discussion at that regular meeting. Yes. Anything that's recommended here,

598
00:39:51,408 --> 00:39:53,283
this motion or an amendment motion would be referred to

599
00:39:53,528 --> 00:39:56,283
the council for final ratification discussion. It pulled from consent

600
00:39:56,368 --> 00:40:01,235
agenda. Okay, perfect. I'm going to go to councilor darling,

601
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:09,254
and then your worship. Thank you, chair. Just from the

602
00:40:09,299 --> 00:40:12,711
reports, it looks like. There's the lease on the solar

603
00:40:12,796 --> 00:40:17,545
panels on the roof is till 2035. Just thinking. If

604
00:40:17,590 --> 00:40:22,893
we don't progress or proceed. With at this time. With

605
00:40:22,938 --> 00:40:26,133
the firefighters museum that we're looking at approximately a cost

606
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:31,516
of $51,000. Per year times ten or eleven years. Just

607
00:40:31,561 --> 00:40:35,321
to maintain the building. I don't know whether there's exit

608
00:40:35,406 --> 00:40:39,681
clause in the solar panel agreement that would work, but

609
00:40:40,446 --> 00:40:42,401
I just want to make sure that those numbers were

610
00:40:42,486 --> 00:40:47,403
correct. Thank you. Yes. So it's my understanding from director

611
00:40:47,448 --> 00:40:50,923
Gert there is a potential clause to get out of

612
00:40:50,968 --> 00:40:56,703
the panels, but. We haven't necessarily explored. That is my

613
00:40:56,748 --> 00:41:00,119
understanding. Would you like to speak to that? Thank you,

614
00:41:00,164 --> 00:41:03,079
chair. Yes, the solar panel at least does have an

615
00:41:03,124 --> 00:41:05,399
exit clause, but the mechanism is that we would pay

616
00:41:05,444 --> 00:41:07,719
out the profits that the company would have received anyway.

617
00:41:09,326 --> 00:41:13,801
So it would involve estimating the future electricity revenue and

618
00:41:13,886 --> 00:41:18,272
compensating for their losses. So we haven't requested a specific

619
00:41:18,437 --> 00:41:21,872
quote or explore that idea to the penny, but we

620
00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:28,546
did consult with. Some solar industry experts, and they recommended

621
00:41:28,871 --> 00:41:30,706
it would probably be cheaper just to ride out the

622
00:41:30,751 --> 00:41:33,746
lease. With the building vacant and do nothing, then pay

623
00:41:33,831 --> 00:41:37,053
it out. And just while the conversation was going on,

624
00:41:37,378 --> 00:41:41,136
I did highlight. The year eleven on this chart and

625
00:41:41,381 --> 00:41:43,696
I'd be happy chair to walk through a few of

626
00:41:43,741 --> 00:41:48,536
these scenarios with your grace, and that may support some

627
00:41:48,541 --> 00:41:52,096
of the ongoing conversation. But year eleven is supported there,

628
00:41:52,421 --> 00:41:56,615
or as highlighted in this cell. So. If the town.

629
00:41:57,943 --> 00:42:01,676
Continued to operate the building. With its current expenses based

630
00:42:01,721 --> 00:42:07,396
on 2024 revenue, with the deduction of $20,000. Of additional

631
00:42:07,761 --> 00:42:10,996
rent, it would cost us $420,000 over the next eleven

632
00:42:11,041 --> 00:42:20,935
years. So, Mr. Chair, would you prefer me to

633
00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:23,775
go through a few of these and explain these scenarios?

634
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,735
Yes, if you don't mind. And then we will go

635
00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:31,015
to the mayor for his question. Thank you. Thank you.

636
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,735
So I'll work through the chart briefly, just working from

637
00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:38,047
the left. Hand side. To the right hand side. Not

638
00:42:38,412 --> 00:42:42,167
a financial planner. So this isn't necessarily a normal financial

639
00:42:42,532 --> 00:42:44,447
layout of how these concepts are done, but I think

640
00:42:44,732 --> 00:42:49,189
this is a simple way to compare. Some of the

641
00:42:49,554 --> 00:42:53,687
a few alternatives to us. So I'll highlight the columns

642
00:42:53,692 --> 00:42:57,059
that I'm speaking about as I go. So in column

643
00:42:57,384 --> 00:43:01,059
e, which is highlighted, that summarizes the revenue we would

644
00:43:01,464 --> 00:43:06,739
collect if we did a flat rate of $18,200 rent

645
00:43:07,104 --> 00:43:09,379
for 20 years. So that would be, we would collect

646
00:43:09,664 --> 00:43:15,139
a total of $364,000. And based on the comparable rent

647
00:43:15,464 --> 00:43:18,728
that we receive of the jack. Jackhenan arena that. Was.

648
00:43:19,526 --> 00:43:22,241
The floor of my negotiating threshold. I felt like I

649
00:43:22,526 --> 00:43:26,081
couldn't go any lower than that. Without any direction from

650
00:43:26,206 --> 00:43:32,302
council. But bear in mind, inflation and other costs continued

651
00:43:32,307 --> 00:43:36,102
to go up. So if we thought about if we

652
00:43:36,187 --> 00:43:39,342
assume that inflation is 2% on average over 20 years,

653
00:43:39,707 --> 00:43:43,222
or 3% on average over 20 years. If we increase

654
00:43:43,587 --> 00:43:49,237
that base amount of rent of 18,200 by those. Different

655
00:43:49,322 --> 00:43:54,957
percentage rates. We would either collect 442 or 489,000 in

656
00:43:55,282 --> 00:44:00,285
a two or 3% scenario. Director Gersh. Sorry. Your worship.

657
00:44:01,050 --> 00:44:03,805
Are you in the meeting? Okay. Sorry. Just wanted to

658
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:05,885
make sure. Just because we want. To know that for

659
00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:09,451
the minutes if you're going to leave the meeting. Sorry,

660
00:44:09,816 --> 00:44:13,051
director Gers. Continue. Thank you for that clarification. So, on

661
00:44:13,056 --> 00:44:17,321
the bottom here. I've just compared so that you don't

662
00:44:17,326 --> 00:44:19,561
have to do the math mentally each one of these

663
00:44:19,886 --> 00:44:24,321
lines below compares this scenario against the starting point. So

664
00:44:24,606 --> 00:44:28,561
a 2% annual increase we would collect $78,000 more, a

665
00:44:28,606 --> 00:44:33,256
3% annual increase. We would collect $125,000. More. So that's

666
00:44:33,301 --> 00:44:36,896
kind of three different versions of the existing Jack Heenan

667
00:44:37,261 --> 00:44:43,350
lease, I guess. In scenario four and five. Just as

668
00:44:43,675 --> 00:44:46,950
a comparison here, if we charged a dollar per square

669
00:44:47,275 --> 00:44:51,505
foot for the buildings, plus. TMI. Which is a normal

670
00:44:51,550 --> 00:44:53,385
way that you think about commercial leases. Of course we

671
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:57,185
don't. Pay ourselves taxes. So maintenance and insurance and a

672
00:44:57,230 --> 00:45:01,258
2% annual increase. Over 20 years, that would be a

673
00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:07,098
collection of $874,000, which is 510 more than scenario one.

674
00:45:08,083 --> 00:45:11,238
If we do that same scenario, but estimate that the

675
00:45:12,003 --> 00:45:17,290
average. Inflationary increase is 3%. The difference would be collecting

676
00:45:17,335 --> 00:45:23,847
967,000, which is a difference of 603,000. I structured some

677
00:45:23,852 --> 00:45:26,487
of these scenarios kind of to give a bit of

678
00:45:26,572 --> 00:45:29,567
commercial context, even though it's very much not a commercial

679
00:45:29,612 --> 00:45:33,607
site. But there's not a lot of museums looking to

680
00:45:33,852 --> 00:45:37,328
move into arena examples. None of these happening in the

681
00:45:37,373 --> 00:45:43,640
marketplace. There are no comparables. Right. It's that unique. So.

682
00:45:45,464 --> 00:45:48,729
This is all. Given to you in context of some

683
00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:53,094
commercial context, but also. It's compatible with the letter that's

684
00:45:53,139 --> 00:45:56,774
received on the agenda as well from the firefighters museum

685
00:45:57,499 --> 00:46:02,878
about. Their ballpark. Million dollar renovation. So even in these

686
00:46:03,243 --> 00:46:06,838
five different scenarios, the town does have a way to

687
00:46:07,643 --> 00:46:11,358
collect a million dollars of rent with a fairly reasonable

688
00:46:11,723 --> 00:46:16,588
ask of $36,000. I think is a fairly reasonable number.

689
00:46:17,353 --> 00:46:20,028
It does get close to that million dollar rent, but

690
00:46:20,073 --> 00:46:24,763
if we were considering forgiving that rent anyway. It would

691
00:46:24,808 --> 00:46:31,838
be a wash. So if the town is considering being

692
00:46:32,603 --> 00:46:36,449
that generous, So if that ask of a million dollars

693
00:46:36,774 --> 00:46:41,769
of rent forgiveness is considered, none of these scenarios really.

694
00:46:42,134 --> 00:46:44,809
Matter, because we wouldn't collect any of this rent anyway.

695
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,368
That being said, We move one more column to the

696
00:46:54,373 --> 00:46:58,011
right. The bills still come due. The building is still

697
00:46:58,416 --> 00:47:01,532
there. It'll need painting of hydro bills. Need to be

698
00:47:01,856 --> 00:47:04,131
paid. There's lights on the parking lot that the town

699
00:47:04,456 --> 00:47:06,971
needs to maintain. We need to plow and salt and

700
00:47:07,096 --> 00:47:12,100
repave at some point. If the museum moves in, the

701
00:47:12,385 --> 00:47:14,780
roof will need to be well maintained. We can't leak.

702
00:47:16,743 --> 00:47:20,458
On invaluable artifacts if the building were to remain vacant

703
00:47:20,743 --> 00:47:23,378
and there was a small roof leak that developed. Staff

704
00:47:23,463 --> 00:47:25,618
could look at it if it's just leaking on the

705
00:47:25,663 --> 00:47:28,138
dirt. Floor and the water soaks into the floor, it

706
00:47:28,183 --> 00:47:30,898
might not even need to be fixed right. There's different

707
00:47:31,303 --> 00:47:34,938
ways to ride it out. And if this interior use

708
00:47:35,303 --> 00:47:38,777
was a not very sensitive. Use, the maintenance cost could

709
00:47:38,822 --> 00:47:41,297
be lower, but if the interior of the building is

710
00:47:41,382 --> 00:47:44,537
used for a sensitive use. Our obligation is the landlord

711
00:47:44,582 --> 00:47:50,177
is higher, not astronomically higher, but the due diligence. Reasonableness

712
00:47:50,302 --> 00:47:54,623
standard is higher. So, based on the 2024 budget, now.

713
00:47:57,371 --> 00:48:00,726
This is pretty fairly broad forecast, but if we includ.

714
00:48:02,007 --> 00:48:08,152
Included $18,000 of additional revenue. That leaves $32,000 of an

715
00:48:08,197 --> 00:48:09,855
expense based on our budget this year. If we just

716
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:14,247
assume that carries forward for 20 years. We're still incurring

717
00:48:14,332 --> 00:48:21,367
expense of $882,000. On top of a zero rent. That's

718
00:48:21,372 --> 00:48:27,208
the expenses. With the revenue. If the roof needs to

719
00:48:27,493 --> 00:48:31,797
be redone. Once 25,000 square foot building. I have not

720
00:48:32,122 --> 00:48:34,757
quoted what that is, but even on that you've seen

721
00:48:34,802 --> 00:48:37,797
the budget on even very small municipal buildings, like the

722
00:48:38,162 --> 00:48:41,837
concert band building, right? That's a million dollars in capital

723
00:48:41,882 --> 00:48:43,637
for that building over the next 20 years, I think.

724
00:48:43,922 --> 00:48:47,351
Is a small number. So we're looking at $2 million

725
00:48:47,476 --> 00:48:50,937
in expenses. Very broad estimates. These are not based on

726
00:48:51,022 --> 00:48:54,417
quotes or detailed engineering plans, but at least it gives

727
00:48:54,502 --> 00:48:57,057
you a sense of the scale of what we're looking

728
00:48:57,102 --> 00:48:59,417
at, and I think it's. Appropriate to have this. This

729
00:48:59,662 --> 00:49:01,097
is why I wanted to have this check in point

730
00:49:01,142 --> 00:49:05,536
midway through. Negotiations to. See how comfortable council is with

731
00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:10,722
the scale of this plan. Thank you. Chair. Thank you,

732
00:49:10,847 --> 00:49:14,682
Director Gertz. Your worship. Yeah. Motion to amend. I'm. Going

733
00:49:14,687 --> 00:49:16,122
to leave the motion as it sends. The only thing

734
00:49:16,407 --> 00:49:18,242
I'm going to put at the end is further, that

735
00:49:18,647 --> 00:49:24,525
council directs staff. To explore options regarding the solar panels

736
00:49:24,850 --> 00:49:26,805
on the roof at this time. I'm not moving. Forward.

737
00:49:27,450 --> 00:49:29,325
Let's not necessarily decide what we're going to do, but

738
00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:34,557
I would like to know options. Regarding either. Moving them

739
00:49:34,642 --> 00:49:36,397
because obviously we don't necessarily want to get out of

740
00:49:36,402 --> 00:49:37,717
the contract. We don't. Want to be paying that kind

741
00:49:37,722 --> 00:49:39,477
of lump sum, but is there an opportunity to move?

742
00:49:39,722 --> 00:49:42,477
To a new town building and maintain that contract. What

743
00:49:42,522 --> 00:49:44,757
are the opportunities? Here is basically all I'm asking for

744
00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:48,388
at this time to understand. If we were to sort

745
00:49:48,393 --> 00:49:50,908
of think in advance, if this council were to decide

746
00:49:50,953 --> 00:49:53,708
to go through an op adjustment and redesign that area

747
00:49:54,313 --> 00:49:57,028
for residential what are our options to just have a

748
00:49:57,073 --> 00:50:00,588
fulsome discussion, hopefully regarding this. That's the motion. So just

749
00:50:00,633 --> 00:50:02,828
simply to look for options. To get out of the

750
00:50:02,873 --> 00:50:08,753
contract for our solars. Okay. This is just in regards

751
00:50:08,798 --> 00:50:11,433
to the solar panel. This is the only thing. Yeah,

752
00:50:11,718 --> 00:50:13,233
we'll just add that at this point, do we have

753
00:50:13,558 --> 00:50:22,983
a seconder? Councilor bureau? Any discussion. On the item,

754
00:50:23,708 --> 00:50:27,970
councilor. Maybe also, if possible, if we can get an

755
00:50:28,015 --> 00:50:31,510
estimate for the roof cost. In that as well. This

756
00:50:31,595 --> 00:50:34,190
way we have a fulsome understanding of what the exact

757
00:50:34,595 --> 00:50:37,790
potential maintenance cost under everything, and that way we're more

758
00:50:37,875 --> 00:50:42,701
informed, happy to amend. We'll just let Mr. Lamber put

759
00:50:43,066 --> 00:50:48,285
that up there. We're going to make a big decision.

760
00:50:48,370 --> 00:50:50,605
Let's make sure we have all of the facts part

761
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:52,405
of it. I think it's a great situation. Thank you,

762
00:50:52,730 --> 00:51:01,176
chair. Chairman. Darling, do you have any questions in regards

763
00:51:01,181 --> 00:51:03,230
to anything going on? Okay. Your worship. And I just

764
00:51:03,275 --> 00:51:05,630
like to say thank you again to both director Gertz.

765
00:51:06,922 --> 00:51:09,237
He is building quite a reputation in the community as

766
00:51:09,282 --> 00:51:11,957
being a deal maker and as being a planner small

767
00:51:12,322 --> 00:51:15,037
p and I think that that's really appropriate to mention

768
00:51:15,402 --> 00:51:17,317
and to talk about because I think a lot of

769
00:51:17,602 --> 00:51:19,997
these projects are moving along at a great rate because

770
00:51:20,322 --> 00:51:22,477
of the willingness of director Gertz to sort of be

771
00:51:22,522 --> 00:51:25,957
open minded and to not come with a bunch of

772
00:51:26,442 --> 00:51:29,813
sort of. Assumptions. So a special note to him and

773
00:51:29,858 --> 00:51:32,624
also, again, a special thanks. I haven't been out there

774
00:51:32,669 --> 00:51:36,428
working to find new locations for this museum because. The

775
00:51:36,473 --> 00:51:40,769
team behind. The museum is doing an incredible job and

776
00:51:40,814 --> 00:51:42,529
seeing the amount of work they're putting into. This and

777
00:51:42,574 --> 00:51:44,769
seeing the momentum is why I've sort of gotten behind

778
00:51:45,174 --> 00:51:46,529
it myself, and I just want to say thank you

779
00:51:46,814 --> 00:51:47,769
to all the vault.

780
00:51:56,812 --> 00:52:04,477
Is it? Councilor bureau? It's okay. He's got two hats.

781
00:52:04,842 --> 00:52:11,652
Apparently today. So the motion. Is there any further discussion

782
00:52:12,057 --> 00:52:19,486
questions? Director Gertz. You just have some comments. Thank you.

783
00:52:19,531 --> 00:52:22,446
I did highlight the roof as an example, but is

784
00:52:22,451 --> 00:52:24,486
not the only expense of feast. Of infrastructure on the

785
00:52:24,811 --> 00:52:27,486
site. So based on the lease definition that we've been

786
00:52:27,891 --> 00:52:32,286
negotiating with, the firefighters museum. The town would maintain the

787
00:52:32,571 --> 00:52:36,686
building envelope. So roof walls, foundations and the common areas.

788
00:52:36,731 --> 00:52:41,023
Which are the parking areas and land. Landscaping, so I'd

789
00:52:41,068 --> 00:52:44,385
be glad to include. Any other infrastructure costs if council

790
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:47,522
is interested in that information. So noted and so moved.

791
00:52:48,924 --> 00:52:56,623
I think that'd be appropriate. If. The building envelope. As

792
00:52:56,748 --> 00:53:00,206
I would say, as. Per our other agreement.

793
00:53:06,827 --> 00:53:08,822
Once Mr. Farmers got that all up there.

794
00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:26,172
Is that good with the two? We just put the

795
00:53:26,257 --> 00:53:30,812
infrastructure repairs. Cao. Vaughn. Sorry. Just a note as well

796
00:53:31,097 --> 00:53:34,652
that these will be. Estimates. So broader estimates. Right. They

797
00:53:34,697 --> 00:53:42,891
won't be detailed design work. Excellent. So the emotion to

798
00:53:42,936 --> 00:53:46,771
amend is up on the board. If there's any questions,

799
00:53:47,216 --> 00:53:53,275
speak now. If not. Okay. All those in favor? Opposed.

800
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,182
If any, it's carried. Now let's go back to. The

801
00:53:58,707 --> 00:54:01,342
main motion, as amended. Do we need to see the

802
00:54:01,387 --> 00:54:05,236
whole thing in its entirety, or are you guys. Good

803
00:54:05,321 --> 00:54:12,890
with. Okay, sounds good. Any questions? Further discussion. Councilor. Darling,

804
00:54:13,335 --> 00:54:18,593
are you good? Okay. At this time. I'll call the

805
00:54:18,678 --> 00:54:22,593
vote on the motion as amended. All those in favor?

806
00:54:23,398 --> 00:54:33,214
Opposed. If any, it's carried. All right. Your worship. Thank

807
00:54:33,259 --> 00:54:36,374
you. Just. I'd like to note to the municipal clerk

808
00:54:36,579 --> 00:54:38,654
that I would. Like that pulled from the consent agenda

809
00:54:39,219 --> 00:54:41,094
at the regular meeting already? I don't know if I

810
00:54:41,099 --> 00:54:42,494
have to provide notice or if I can do that

811
00:54:42,539 --> 00:54:50,252
in these meetings. Okay, perfect. Okay, at this time, we're

812
00:54:50,257 --> 00:54:53,852
going to move to the notice of motion, and we

813
00:54:53,857 --> 00:55:03,621
have a notice of motion from Mayor Cleveland. If you'd

814
00:55:03,626 --> 00:55:05,461
like to move that onto the floor. And if we

815
00:55:05,466 --> 00:55:09,469
can get a seconder. So the mayor's moved his notice

816
00:55:09,794 --> 00:55:16,233
motion on the floor. Do we have a second? Councilor

817
00:55:16,638 --> 00:55:22,728
bureau. So, discussion on the item. Your worship, I'd like

818
00:55:23,053 --> 00:55:27,433
to first start off by recognizing that this motion. Doesn't

819
00:55:27,478 --> 00:55:30,073
come by myself. While it says the notice of motion

820
00:55:30,078 --> 00:55:32,793
from Mayor Lucas Cleveland, the reality is, I may have

821
00:55:32,838 --> 00:55:35,073
stolen a little bit of thunder from my fellow counselors,

822
00:55:35,318 --> 00:55:37,793
and I. Want to acknowledge that this is an item

823
00:55:38,118 --> 00:55:40,873
that I've been at lengths in discussion with. Both councilor

824
00:55:41,198 --> 00:55:45,633
Darlingwith both councilor bureau, with even yourself, councilor Bercat and

825
00:55:45,678 --> 00:55:47,735
so while this motion may be coming forward, With me.

826
00:55:48,060 --> 00:55:49,975
I want to be very clear that I am not

827
00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:53,055
the one that has necessarily been pushing the envelope on

828
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:57,335
the parking issue. My fellow counsel has been, and it's

829
00:55:57,340 --> 00:55:59,935
been my job as the mayor to simply listen and

830
00:55:59,980 --> 00:56:03,455
hear. It was a bit of a rush job in

831
00:56:03,460 --> 00:56:05,655
terms of getting this together with the report coming from

832
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:10,208
the DbIA. And sort of the new working model. I

833
00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:11,688
knew that this had to get up in front of

834
00:56:11,973 --> 00:56:14,728
council. So these suggestions are sort of a combination of

835
00:56:15,053 --> 00:56:17,648
suggestions that I've heard from across the table from my

836
00:56:17,653 --> 00:56:21,597
other counselors. They're in no way, shape or form locked

837
00:56:21,642 --> 00:56:24,397
in stone. And it was a starting point. From which

838
00:56:24,682 --> 00:56:28,403
I hope today. Will continue that discussion, and then we

839
00:56:28,408 --> 00:56:30,523
can lead to a fulsome discussion as a whole. But

840
00:56:30,528 --> 00:56:32,803
I do want to acknowledge that these ideas are not

841
00:56:33,088 --> 00:56:35,043
mine. These are the ideas that I've been presented from

842
00:56:35,328 --> 00:56:38,043
people like councilor bureau and councilor darling who have actually

843
00:56:38,408 --> 00:56:40,803
spoken. At length with me about some of their concerns.

844
00:56:41,992 --> 00:56:44,387
And primarily all I'm looking to do here, and I

845
00:56:44,392 --> 00:56:46,667
think all council is looking to do is to listen

846
00:56:46,952 --> 00:56:48,467
to what the DBI is saying. And when we went

847
00:56:48,752 --> 00:56:50,707
through those points, today of what the DBI is looking

848
00:56:51,072 --> 00:56:53,267
for. These suggestions, not saying that they need to stay

849
00:56:53,632 --> 00:56:57,707
on would have basically addressed all of those concerns, and

850
00:56:58,072 --> 00:56:59,907
so I think we can do one better. Than what

851
00:57:00,152 --> 00:57:02,798
the DBI is asking, I think. We can look for

852
00:57:03,443 --> 00:57:07,091
our staff to come back with a more. Easy to

853
00:57:07,136 --> 00:57:14,935
use. And simplistic parking system. That doesn't necessitate a reduction.

854
00:57:15,825 --> 00:57:19,980
In revenue, but also takes into account the seasonality of

855
00:57:20,305 --> 00:57:23,740
our community. And that is that in the summertime, everyone

856
00:57:23,825 --> 00:57:26,060
needs parking, and the rest of the year, we've got

857
00:57:26,385 --> 00:57:30,289
lots of parking available. And I think. When you I

858
00:57:30,374 --> 00:57:33,489
know a lot of people tell me that municipalities aren't

859
00:57:33,814 --> 00:57:36,009
business, but I think when we're looking at parking. Parking

860
00:57:36,094 --> 00:57:40,538
is a business. In our municipality. And as such, there

861
00:57:40,863 --> 00:57:44,768
is a time when you want. To provide quality services,

862
00:57:45,173 --> 00:57:47,448
and then there's a time where you want to maximize

863
00:57:47,773 --> 00:57:51,048
potential revenue. And I think the suggestions in this motion.

864
00:57:52,295 --> 00:57:53,530
Are sort of alluding to some of that, but again,

865
00:57:54,135 --> 00:57:58,610
I'm open to suggestions, amendments. And or any other alterations.

866
00:57:58,735 --> 00:58:02,941
Thank you. Councilor. Thank you for bringing this forward, your

867
00:58:03,306 --> 00:58:09,462
worship. You're right. Parking has been an ongoing conversation. I

868
00:58:09,467 --> 00:58:12,302
think since the car was invented, I think, to be

869
00:58:12,307 --> 00:58:14,919
honest, I like a lot of these points. There's some

870
00:58:14,964 --> 00:58:17,839
that I don't, but I do think we need a

871
00:58:17,924 --> 00:58:23,796
fulsome conversation after. The strategic parking plan comes out from

872
00:58:24,641 --> 00:58:27,476
staff, and I think there is definitely good points in

873
00:58:27,481 --> 00:58:29,676
here. And I think the DBI has some good points

874
00:58:30,041 --> 00:58:32,356
in there as well. Some again, I don't agree with.

875
00:58:34,142 --> 00:58:37,417
But I think that once the report comes back to

876
00:58:37,862 --> 00:58:40,937
council, I think that would be the perfect opportunity for

877
00:58:41,622 --> 00:58:45,673
all of us as council to debate that motion. So

878
00:58:46,158 --> 00:58:48,313
as much as I love these, and I know there's

879
00:58:48,358 --> 00:58:51,109
the three or four points, In your motion that I

880
00:58:51,114 --> 00:58:54,229
would like to vote on now in the past, but

881
00:58:54,314 --> 00:58:56,589
I think we need to refer this to that plan.

882
00:58:57,687 --> 00:59:00,882
Be very clear, Councilor Burrow, none of these suggestions would

883
00:59:00,927 --> 00:59:08,720
be necessitated in the voting. What this motion is, is

884
00:59:08,725 --> 00:59:11,240
simply requesting a report from staff using some of these

885
00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:15,080
as a suggested guideline. So I think waiting until the

886
00:59:15,125 --> 00:59:18,511
report. Is again, being a reactive type of government. I

887
00:59:18,556 --> 00:59:22,244
think we need to start being proactive. I think our

888
00:59:22,289 --> 00:59:25,483
community expects us to be taking a leadership role. And

889
00:59:25,528 --> 00:59:30,062
I think that what I've asked for. Is not a

890
00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:33,622
solution. What? I've asked for suggestions from staff based on

891
00:59:33,947 --> 00:59:36,702
these recommendations, so. I think it's actually to sort of

892
00:59:37,027 --> 00:59:39,262
push back. It's actually the perfect time. Because we know

893
00:59:39,307 --> 00:59:42,462
that report is eminent. The staff already have access to

894
00:59:42,787 --> 00:59:44,662
that report and will so within the next few weeks.

895
00:59:46,539 --> 00:59:48,534
And so suggesting that they start putting together a report

896
00:59:49,259 --> 00:59:51,654
about that. Report and what our new parking regime. That's

897
00:59:51,859 --> 00:59:53,294
one of the reasons why I pushed it forward, to

898
00:59:53,299 --> 00:59:55,174
get it on the agenda now is because of the

899
00:59:55,459 --> 00:59:57,734
timing issue. This will allow the staff to have that

900
00:59:58,059 --> 01:00:00,854
appropriate time. When that report comes that they don't have

901
01:00:00,859 --> 01:00:03,454
to, then wait for a motion from counsel. To go

902
01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:07,417
forward on that. So that's the reason for it. Council

903
01:00:07,462 --> 01:00:11,957
bureau. I agree. We need to be proactive rather than

904
01:00:12,362 --> 01:00:16,677
reactive, which I think when we first came back with

905
01:00:17,002 --> 01:00:20,309
these new parking regulations. It was a lot to take

906
01:00:20,354 --> 01:00:24,666
in because there were so many different aspects. To the

907
01:00:24,671 --> 01:00:31,337
whole parking plan. But I still think that if. We

908
01:00:31,382 --> 01:00:34,977
start going line by line over these and adding new

909
01:00:35,462 --> 01:00:38,846
bylaws in it's going to confuse people more. And I

910
01:00:38,851 --> 01:00:41,406
think that's one of the biggest issues that happened with

911
01:00:41,451 --> 01:00:46,828
our parking last year. Is, everybody didn't have the right

912
01:00:46,993 --> 01:00:50,308
information to understand where the waterfront parking was, where the

913
01:00:50,353 --> 01:00:55,108
downtown parking was and. When it would start, when it

914
01:00:55,113 --> 01:00:59,196
didn't because. People are busy and they live their lives.

915
01:00:59,561 --> 01:01:01,836
So I do believe that I would rather like to

916
01:01:02,201 --> 01:01:04,116
instead of piece by piece, I would rather have to

917
01:01:04,121 --> 01:01:07,556
look at the whole parking thing where council then goes

918
01:01:07,641 --> 01:01:09,476
over it. I agree with you. There needs to be

919
01:01:09,841 --> 01:01:14,210
changes, 100%, but I do believe that. We need to

920
01:01:14,695 --> 01:01:17,450
have that report back first, and then we can actually

921
01:01:17,535 --> 01:01:21,767
sit back, take our time. And do it right. Your

922
01:01:22,132 --> 01:01:25,327
worship. Yeah, I'm a little bit lost to councilor because

923
01:01:25,732 --> 01:01:27,967
this is doing it. Right. This is exactly what doing

924
01:01:28,012 --> 01:01:32,767
it right looks like. It's asking the staff to give

925
01:01:32,812 --> 01:01:37,917
us a report. On how we could make it better.

926
01:01:39,242 --> 01:01:41,677
This isn't going line by line. The suggestions that I

927
01:01:41,722 --> 01:01:45,463
put forward are just examples of what to do. That

928
01:01:45,508 --> 01:01:48,783
could further that this new program shall consider, not implement.

929
01:01:49,188 --> 01:01:51,823
Shall consider. It was very specific in the wording because

930
01:01:52,468 --> 01:01:54,423
I want to be very clear that it also says

931
01:01:54,828 --> 01:01:57,943
suggestions from residents business and council members in the report.

932
01:01:58,348 --> 01:02:01,143
So in this motion, it actually would allow the staff

933
01:02:01,468 --> 01:02:04,103
to speak. To each council member and get their input,

934
01:02:04,468 --> 01:02:06,779
it would actually allow. The staff to take the emails

935
01:02:07,104 --> 01:02:09,739
that we get all the time and come back with

936
01:02:10,104 --> 01:02:12,810
the report. And I want to be very clear. We

937
01:02:12,855 --> 01:02:16,090
can simply. If any of these points don't sit well,

938
01:02:16,455 --> 01:02:19,130
we can simply cross them. Out now in the direction

939
01:02:19,495 --> 01:02:21,610
to staff and allow them to come back with a

940
01:02:21,615 --> 01:02:24,770
Folsom. Report. But what you're asking is to put everything

941
01:02:24,855 --> 01:02:27,410
on hold until the report comes back. And I'm just

942
01:02:27,735 --> 01:02:30,530
a little confused as to why when we're not asking

943
01:02:30,855 --> 01:02:33,496
for a decision. We're not going to confuse resident. Residents

944
01:02:33,581 --> 01:02:37,056
because nothing is being done. All that is happening is

945
01:02:37,061 --> 01:02:39,616
we're giving the staff the opportunity to get a head

946
01:02:39,701 --> 01:02:47,235
start on the work. Council. Agree. 100% I agree with

947
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,675
you, but these are just minuscule points to the whole

948
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,082
parking plan. And. This is one of the reasons why

949
01:02:55,407 --> 01:02:57,362
I think that we should refer this to that report.

950
01:02:58,047 --> 01:03:00,322
I'm not saying that any of these are bad. I'm

951
01:03:00,327 --> 01:03:02,602
not saying that we shouldn't. Be debating them. I'm saying

952
01:03:02,967 --> 01:03:06,082
that there's a right time to debate. Them. And I

953
01:03:06,407 --> 01:03:09,642
think that we need that input from staff to come

954
01:03:09,647 --> 01:03:14,192
back as a report which will be happening and. I

955
01:03:14,237 --> 01:03:19,463
do get it. I just think that. We need to

956
01:03:19,748 --> 01:03:24,535
do this as a whole. Instead of just. Specific line

957
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:29,318
by lines. Quick question through the chair to councilor bureau.

958
01:03:29,603 --> 01:03:30,998
What do you think? The report is coming back? With

959
01:03:31,083 --> 01:03:32,718
because it's simply going to be a report that says

960
01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:34,558
either we have a parking problem. We don't have a

961
01:03:34,563 --> 01:03:38,174
parking problem. We have a parking problem, and that's where

962
01:03:38,219 --> 01:03:41,374
you're going to be. Unfortunately, most likely incorrect. We don't

963
01:03:41,379 --> 01:03:43,174
have a parking problem. And that report, that's going to

964
01:03:43,179 --> 01:03:45,214
come back is going to clearly indicate that there is.

965
01:03:45,259 --> 01:03:48,734
Not necessarily. Again, I'm assuming so. Are you? But the

966
01:03:48,739 --> 01:03:52,302
reality is. This report isn't going to have anything to

967
01:03:52,307 --> 01:03:55,302
do with a parking strategy. This report is. Only going

968
01:03:55,307 --> 01:03:57,142
to tell us whether there is an issue with parking

969
01:03:57,427 --> 01:04:00,222
or there isn't an issue with parking. That has nothing

970
01:04:00,547 --> 01:04:02,102
to do with this motion that is on the table.

971
01:04:02,707 --> 01:04:05,102
The motion. That's on the table is about relooking at

972
01:04:05,107 --> 01:04:08,582
the entire parking strategy and having a report from staff

973
01:04:08,947 --> 01:04:10,910
so that we can have the debate. That we both

974
01:04:11,235 --> 01:04:14,851
agree we want to have. So we are. But it's

975
01:04:14,896 --> 01:04:17,131
about this report. We need to put this on the

976
01:04:17,416 --> 01:04:20,211
council. Table now so that it goes to regular council

977
01:04:20,496 --> 01:04:22,491
at the end of the month, so that in March.

978
01:04:23,176 --> 01:04:25,491
Our staff can start working on this report. The timing

979
01:04:25,816 --> 01:04:27,571
of this matters, and that's why this has been put

980
01:04:27,656 --> 01:04:31,531
forward. Now. Now is the right time because now we

981
01:04:31,576 --> 01:04:34,081
talk about it. Now it doesn't happen. It simply goes

982
01:04:34,166 --> 01:04:35,961
on the docket for the end of the month, meaning

983
01:04:36,286 --> 01:04:39,041
at the end of February, this council will then have

984
01:04:39,326 --> 01:04:42,601
a discussion around this. And if this council decides to

985
01:04:42,926 --> 01:04:46,961
then ask for a report again. No changes, no parking,

986
01:04:47,286 --> 01:04:50,041
no anything. Simply a report. We will get that report.

987
01:04:50,366 --> 01:04:53,959
Till at earliest march or April. So now. Is the

988
01:04:54,004 --> 01:04:55,919
actual right time if we want to fix our summer

989
01:04:56,244 --> 01:04:58,519
parking problems, now is when we have to start doing

990
01:04:58,764 --> 01:05:00,719
the foresight. So that's why I'm just being very. Clear.

991
01:05:02,352 --> 01:05:04,707
I'm pushing back because this is exactly the right time.

992
01:05:04,992 --> 01:05:06,627
It's why I rushed. To get this on the docket.

993
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,635
Thank you, worship. Councilor bureau. And then I believe I

994
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,955
saw Councilor Darling's hand. Up. I think we're saying the

995
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,880
same thing, but different. This is going to go on

996
01:05:19,285 --> 01:05:23,760
the council agenda anyways with whatever motion we come up

997
01:05:23,765 --> 01:05:26,959
with. Or it stays the same. So it's all going

998
01:05:26,964 --> 01:05:31,636
to be debated then as well. The question is. Are

999
01:05:31,681 --> 01:05:33,596
we moving this exactly the way it is to the

1000
01:05:33,881 --> 01:05:36,236
council agenda? I'm okay with that if we're going to

1001
01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:38,916
be debating on each parking thing, then I'm not. Doing

1002
01:05:39,281 --> 01:05:41,116
that, but I think we're saying the exact same thing,

1003
01:05:41,361 --> 01:05:43,796
because regardless, it's either going to go for information purposes

1004
01:05:44,081 --> 01:05:46,036
and into the report, or we're going to be debating

1005
01:05:46,801 --> 01:05:51,853
it at February 20 eigth. So either way, again, I

1006
01:05:51,938 --> 01:05:54,733
agree. Do we need to talk about parking? 100%. Do

1007
01:05:55,018 --> 01:05:56,853
we need to figure out the best ways to move

1008
01:05:56,938 --> 01:06:02,271
forward. Absolutely. So to save arguments and time, this is

1009
01:06:02,596 --> 01:06:04,551
going to go on to the agenda, then I'm all

1010
01:06:05,236 --> 01:06:09,691
for it. Yes. Before I go to councilor Darling there.

1011
01:06:10,416 --> 01:06:13,171
Yeah. Basically, any of these items are going to be

1012
01:06:13,176 --> 01:06:16,291
going to the regular council and then obviously from that

1013
01:06:16,616 --> 01:06:20,171
we'll get taken into consideration. Of the overall report that

1014
01:06:20,216 --> 01:06:24,076
Mr. Lermer and his team are already working on. Let's

1015
01:06:24,081 --> 01:06:31,039
go to Councilor Darling. Thank you, chair. The mayor did

1016
01:06:31,124 --> 01:06:33,839
answer some because I'm looking at the timelines here, which

1017
01:06:34,124 --> 01:06:38,724
it says to the next committee. Which is in March,

1018
01:06:39,409 --> 01:06:41,724
and then it'll go back to council for March, the

1019
01:06:41,729 --> 01:06:45,810
end of March. I guess my concern comes in is

1020
01:06:46,175 --> 01:06:50,111
it's getting late in the year. And. Will we have

1021
01:06:50,196 --> 01:06:52,791
time to pass it? And the citizens get to buy

1022
01:06:53,076 --> 01:06:55,471
their $40 passes if we stay with them or if

1023
01:06:55,516 --> 01:07:00,881
we change the passing. Will it give bylaw and all

1024
01:07:00,926 --> 01:07:03,361
the staff time, or are we rushing this for this

1025
01:07:03,766 --> 01:07:08,900
year? I have concerns, but. Just the timelines. I just

1026
01:07:08,985 --> 01:07:11,536
wanted to bring that up. Thank you. I'm going to

1027
01:07:11,621 --> 01:07:13,776
go to Mr. Larmer because I know him and I

1028
01:07:13,821 --> 01:07:17,416
have had discussions about this on when the report's coming,

1029
01:07:18,141 --> 01:07:21,856
and these are just some notes to potentially add to

1030
01:07:22,541 --> 01:07:27,003
that report. And potential information. I know there may be

1031
01:07:27,288 --> 01:07:30,403
some issues with some of them in their implementation, but.

1032
01:07:30,688 --> 01:07:33,925
If I gave Mr. Lamber to speak to that. Yes.

1033
01:07:36,873 --> 01:07:39,308
So through to the committee members. So we have council

1034
01:07:39,953 --> 01:07:44,406
has the current provided. In 2023. Direction to staff that

1035
01:07:44,411 --> 01:07:46,166
we're working on, and there's two reports. Just to clarify,

1036
01:07:46,411 --> 01:07:48,366
the standing committee, there's one that public works is working

1037
01:07:48,451 --> 01:07:51,926
on, which is? The guarding the parking feasibility study. So

1038
01:07:52,251 --> 01:07:54,646
that's coming back to council. The separate one was directed

1039
01:07:55,011 --> 01:07:58,046
by council. Believe it was through notice of the motion

1040
01:07:58,091 --> 01:08:01,378
and what we're working on. Right now. And finalizing was

1041
01:08:01,423 --> 01:08:03,418
the direction to report back an options to create a

1042
01:08:03,423 --> 01:08:07,458
townwide annual resident parking permit, including the improved ease of

1043
01:08:07,503 --> 01:08:11,098
parking for residents and also some additional downtown parking options.

1044
01:08:12,283 --> 01:08:14,558
To make parking in the downtown waterfront area more consistent,

1045
01:08:14,843 --> 01:08:16,758
understandable, and more accessible to all. So we're looking at

1046
01:08:17,083 --> 01:08:20,118
all those options. In regards to that, we also had

1047
01:08:20,163 --> 01:08:23,438
direction for council. Regarding accessible permit purchased a regular fee

1048
01:08:23,723 --> 01:08:28,735
holder for designated accessible parking spaces. Increasing the fine for

1049
01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:31,815
accessible spaces to 450 from the current 300. So we're

1050
01:08:31,820 --> 01:08:34,403
looking at that as well too, on those options. And

1051
01:08:34,448 --> 01:08:36,843
the second one we're looking at is in regards to

1052
01:08:37,448 --> 01:08:41,643
a downtown business employee permit. Any suggestions with comments from

1053
01:08:41,928 --> 01:08:45,563
the BIA, because the DBI back in summer or fall

1054
01:08:45,888 --> 01:08:48,523
last year did provide some additional information on what they'd

1055
01:08:48,528 --> 01:08:50,363
like to see in the downtown. So we're working with

1056
01:08:50,728 --> 01:08:53,974
those well, too. So essentially, we're hoping for this report

1057
01:08:54,339 --> 01:08:58,294
back in March for sure. I agree with councilor. Time

1058
01:08:58,619 --> 01:09:01,787
creeps up on us as well, too, so that's. One

1059
01:09:01,792 --> 01:09:03,587
of the concerns. We want to also get this in

1060
01:09:03,592 --> 01:09:04,907
front of council as quick as we can, especially with

1061
01:09:05,152 --> 01:09:06,667
the notice of motion that council doors to go through

1062
01:09:07,272 --> 01:09:09,667
in this conversation and we know that parking is always.

1063
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,178
A very high level. Discussion here as well as the

1064
01:09:14,463 --> 01:09:17,077
community. But I just want to also say that. We

1065
01:09:17,082 --> 01:09:19,117
did really do in the last two years, two and

1066
01:09:19,442 --> 01:09:21,637
a half years, really robust discussion and look at the

1067
01:09:21,682 --> 01:09:25,277
waterfront area. We had meetings, we had areas. We developed

1068
01:09:25,522 --> 01:09:27,357
a pass where I think our residents are really caught

1069
01:09:27,402 --> 01:09:31,404
on now. With that real trial period then. We reviewed

1070
01:09:31,449 --> 01:09:33,204
it last year too, as well. So I think that's

1071
01:09:33,249 --> 01:09:36,024
important to know. And what some of those comments on

1072
01:09:36,029 --> 01:09:38,184
there is like, I think that we currently have got

1073
01:09:38,509 --> 01:09:40,264
it. Right. Based on what we really talked about, the

1074
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:43,344
waterfront area, and I believe that we can, in this

1075
01:09:43,389 --> 01:09:44,824
report is going to come back that we can look

1076
01:09:45,149 --> 01:09:50,159
at. A similar trial basis or options for the downtown

1077
01:09:50,404 --> 01:09:52,759
area, too, for residents and have that combined as well,

1078
01:09:53,084 --> 01:09:56,119
too, especially with the DBI and what they're experiencing as

1079
01:09:56,164 --> 01:09:58,799
well, too, with parking. So that's what we are going

1080
01:09:58,804 --> 01:10:01,819
to be bringing back. And I'm happy to take all

1081
01:10:01,864 --> 01:10:04,979
of these options that the notice motion has provided back.

1082
01:10:05,624 --> 01:10:08,539
We could also discuss those in the parking report as

1083
01:10:08,904 --> 01:10:10,259
well. I think one of the ones I just want

1084
01:10:10,264 --> 01:10:12,379
to bring the attention to this committee too, is that

1085
01:10:12,744 --> 01:10:15,139
I would maybe have a bit. Of concern on that

1086
01:10:15,424 --> 01:10:17,619
is just regarding that all paid parking the town be

1087
01:10:17,664 --> 01:10:21,410
suspended until new parks trash implanted. I would raise issue

1088
01:10:21,695 --> 01:10:23,570
with that one. Well, we should just continue the status

1089
01:10:23,615 --> 01:10:27,370
quo until we start. To look at everything and review,

1090
01:10:27,695 --> 01:10:29,650
and council has an opportunity to do that, and maybe

1091
01:10:30,015 --> 01:10:33,090
council or. This committee wants to give some advice to

1092
01:10:33,135 --> 01:10:35,010
council or recommendation to council that we put a hard

1093
01:10:35,295 --> 01:10:37,570
timeline on a report back that maybe you say March

1094
01:10:37,895 --> 01:10:39,770
has to come to march and council endorsed that it

1095
01:10:39,775 --> 01:10:41,770
puts more of a time frame. On our staff to

1096
01:10:41,815 --> 01:10:44,050
get back with it, but just be cognizant of council

1097
01:10:44,295 --> 01:10:46,290
that. The last few meetings, especially in January, there has

1098
01:10:46,335 --> 01:10:48,450
been a lot of work that has been given to

1099
01:10:48,535 --> 01:10:51,970
staff from this council, especially when it comes to law

1100
01:10:52,015 --> 01:10:55,570
enforcement. So we are trying our best. But if this

1101
01:10:55,855 --> 01:10:58,170
is a priority of the standing committee to council endorse,

1102
01:10:58,175 --> 01:11:00,410
we will make sure that we get that well before

1103
01:11:00,775 --> 01:11:08,815
the. Summer, spring season. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Larmer. Your

1104
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:11,535
worship. Happy to amend the motion as Mr. Larmer has

1105
01:11:11,580 --> 01:11:15,135
recommended. Happy to remove that. Last notice off the motion

1106
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:16,855
and happy to take that off and to put a

1107
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:19,575
date on if this council. If this committee said, as

1108
01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:21,695
I said, there is nothing that I'm holding on. To

1109
01:11:21,740 --> 01:11:24,415
personally here with these recommendations from Mr. Larmer. I'm open

1110
01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:26,575
to those suggestions. To have that removed from the notice

1111
01:11:26,620 --> 01:11:29,906
of motion, since I believe. You're the second or whoever

1112
01:11:30,031 --> 01:11:31,826
seconded that. It's up to you whether you're okay with

1113
01:11:32,151 --> 01:11:33,986
it as well. So, Mr. Armor, then I would ask

1114
01:11:34,271 --> 01:11:37,506
that through you to Mr. Larmer, that your two recommendations,

1115
01:11:37,791 --> 01:11:40,506
one, that all paid parking be removed. The suggestion and

1116
01:11:40,591 --> 01:11:43,235
further that you add that date. That's sort of moving

1117
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:51,715
along. Everyone clear? With the amendments on it. Any questions

1118
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:58,218
or further discussion. Okay, one more comment. Sorry. I'll put

1119
01:11:58,543 --> 01:12:00,658
the amendment up and I just want to. Is the

1120
01:12:00,663 --> 01:12:05,176
committee going to. Recommend. A timeline for council consider to

1121
01:12:05,181 --> 01:12:08,983
put on staff. Does the report come to council directly

1122
01:12:09,348 --> 01:12:11,903
or does it come to the committee first and the

1123
01:12:11,908 --> 01:12:21,144
next? Okay. Yeah. The way the standing structure is, it

1124
01:12:21,149 --> 01:12:22,984
would come to the committee responsible for that, which is.

1125
01:12:23,029 --> 01:12:25,224
Here. But again, this committee can recommend to go directly

1126
01:12:25,509 --> 01:12:27,864
to council as that piece of it, but. I think

1127
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:29,584
what's going to happen with this? This will have to

1128
01:12:29,589 --> 01:12:31,264
come to council anyways. The end of the month be

1129
01:12:31,349 --> 01:12:33,464
endorsed too. So council can you endorse whether you decide

1130
01:12:33,469 --> 01:12:35,544
to come back to the committee or to council, so

1131
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:37,344
I'm sure there might be. More of a discussion of

1132
01:12:37,429 --> 01:12:41,754
all. Members of council, too, on this. So I think

1133
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,303
regardless. If somebody would have liked to put a timeline

1134
01:12:45,668 --> 01:12:47,903
on it, it would either have to come to the

1135
01:12:48,148 --> 01:12:56,133
beginning of the month. In march. Or.

1136
01:12:59,258 --> 01:13:01,493
Towards the end of March. If it was towards the

1137
01:13:01,538 --> 01:13:05,447
end of March, obviously. Income rate to council. Then obviously

1138
01:13:05,572 --> 01:13:09,047
that would give staff more time, but if the committee

1139
01:13:09,092 --> 01:13:12,674
would like it to come earlier. Just obviously to Mr.

1140
01:13:12,759 --> 01:13:18,065
Lermer's comments on. The workload. So I'll leave that up

1141
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:19,785
to the members of the committee, if they would like

1142
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:28,759
to. Put amendment on that. Councilor Bureau. The regular council

1143
01:13:29,044 --> 01:13:32,919
in March. I think that timeline from February 28 to

1144
01:13:32,964 --> 01:13:36,079
the five days after six days after to get the

1145
01:13:36,204 --> 01:13:44,947
report. And. Okay with.

1146
01:13:47,934 --> 01:13:52,152
That date, okay? Sir. Mr. Larmer, you typing that up

1147
01:13:52,837 --> 01:13:56,032
as an amendment or something? Right now, I figure that's.

1148
01:14:04,257 --> 01:14:06,572
Well, Mr. Larry is just typing that up. Do you

1149
01:14:06,577 --> 01:14:10,747
have any questions, councilor darling? Okay, perfect.

1150
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:00,075
Councilor bureau. You're good with that? As it's written. Okay,

1151
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:01,075
your worship.

1152
01:15:18,750 --> 01:15:21,185
Your worship. Just to clarify, Mr. Larmer, that means that

1153
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:24,305
these recommendations will be part of. The report. Thank you

1154
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:30,886
very much. Thank you so much. That's right. That would

1155
01:15:30,931 --> 01:15:33,766
be considered as part of the overall report. And obviously

1156
01:15:34,491 --> 01:15:39,284
the staff. Would. Make sure they don't contradict other things,

1157
01:15:40,009 --> 01:15:43,614
or so on and so forth. Okay, so there's been

1158
01:15:43,899 --> 01:15:46,214
a lengthy discussion on this, so I'm going to call.

1159
01:15:46,259 --> 01:15:50,094
The vote on this, I guess, is the amendment. So

1160
01:15:50,459 --> 01:15:53,774
the amendment first. We got a mover. And seconder. I'm

1161
01:15:53,739 --> 01:15:56,879
going to call the question. All those in favor? Opposed.

1162
01:15:57,244 --> 01:16:01,214
If any, it's carried. Now back to the main motion,

1163
01:16:01,899 --> 01:16:10,826
as amended. Any questions or concerns on it. Okay. All

1164
01:16:10,911 --> 01:16:15,681
those in favor? And it's carried. At this time, we're

1165
01:16:15,726 --> 01:16:25,370
moving on to department updates. I know director Taylor

1166
01:16:25,695 --> 01:16:28,490
Scott has had to leave us, unfortunately, for some other

1167
01:16:28,775 --> 01:16:32,584
matters, but I know. The CaO has a report. Update

1168
01:16:32,949 --> 01:16:35,304
from her, and then we will go to director Gertz,

1169
01:16:35,629 --> 01:16:40,621
fire chief and Mr. Alarm. If they have reports. Thank

1170
01:16:40,626 --> 01:16:43,661
you to the chair. So under economic development, just wanted

1171
01:16:43,746 --> 01:16:49,826
to highlight an exciting event that is. Coming soon. It's

1172
01:16:49,831 --> 01:16:51,666
a partnered event between the town of Coburg and the

1173
01:16:51,671 --> 01:16:56,626
Northumberland Central Chamber of. Commerce, and it is the celebration

1174
01:16:56,951 --> 01:17:00,106
of the business awards, so very important events in our

1175
01:17:00,151 --> 01:17:03,586
community. It takes place on Friday, March 22 at the

1176
01:17:03,591 --> 01:17:06,786
best western. If you haven't had an opportunity to attend

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01:17:07,471 --> 01:17:10,536
this event. We certainly want to highlight that for the

1178
01:17:10,581 --> 01:17:15,231
community. This event recognizes business excellence in nine different sectors,

1179
01:17:15,956 --> 01:17:17,831
as well as looks at the award of the James

1180
01:17:18,116 --> 01:17:21,631
Crosson Award for lifetime achievement, the mayor's award and the

1181
01:17:21,676 --> 01:17:26,675
Chambers. Chair award as well. So very exciting night. Nominations

1182
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,355
are open and can be completed on the chambers. Website.

1183
01:17:30,368 --> 01:17:33,203
In addition from economic development staff will be attending the

1184
01:17:33,528 --> 01:17:38,363
Economic Developers Council of Ontario's annual conference in Toronto. So

1185
01:17:38,408 --> 01:17:41,523
this forum really brings together economic leaders from around the

1186
01:17:41,528 --> 01:17:45,123
province and looks at the role of collaboration and innovation

1187
01:17:45,448 --> 01:17:49,443
and how economic development staff and departments play a really

1188
01:17:49,528 --> 01:17:52,983
key role. In shaping the future of Ontario's economy. So

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01:17:52,988 --> 01:17:57,069
again, A very important event for Coberg to be participating

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01:17:57,114 --> 01:17:59,629
in and to have our voice heard in terms of

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01:17:59,674 --> 01:18:01,989
how we shape and explore the opportunities that are available

1192
01:18:02,754 --> 01:18:06,715
to us. In the coming years. Moving on to venture

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,950
13. We have had. Some updates. So one of our

1194
01:18:12,315 --> 01:18:14,990
venture zone members have departed, and I do want to

1195
01:18:15,035 --> 01:18:19,470
again highlight that we recognize success where we know that

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01:18:19,755 --> 01:18:23,310
venture 13 is an incubator. It provides an opportunity for

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01:18:23,395 --> 01:18:28,427
folks to build their business footprint. And capacity and sustainability.

1198
01:18:28,792 --> 01:18:31,827
So where we see that members have an opportunity to

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01:18:31,912 --> 01:18:36,187
then become independently operating, this is a wonderful story and

1200
01:18:36,592 --> 01:18:41,606
links right back to that economic development piece. Around healthy

1201
01:18:41,891 --> 01:18:45,765
businesses in our community. We have also got four new

1202
01:18:45,850 --> 01:18:49,701
members starting February 1, so. There's a really great cycle

1203
01:18:49,826 --> 01:18:53,301
happening here. Our desk capacity and other great news story

1204
01:18:53,626 --> 01:18:56,461
is close to 100% occupancy. We only have one desk

1205
01:18:56,826 --> 01:19:00,341
vacant, so this is really. Good news with our venture

1206
01:19:00,346 --> 01:19:04,301
zone members and offices are available for rent, so please,

1207
01:19:04,626 --> 01:19:06,541
if any member of the public is interested. Reach out

1208
01:19:06,826 --> 01:19:09,416
to our staff. They're happy to help. We have some

1209
01:19:09,461 --> 01:19:13,792
new winter programming that will be happening. So. Our really

1210
01:19:13,837 --> 01:19:17,832
popular strike up women's digital conference. The viewing party is

1211
01:19:17,877 --> 01:19:21,072
happening on end of day panel discussion among local women

1212
01:19:21,717 --> 01:19:25,512
in local business. So again, very important event February 23.

1213
01:19:26,584 --> 01:19:30,659
Our Ontario center of Innovation program session is May 5,

1214
01:19:31,024 --> 01:19:34,219
our March break. Stem camp so backed by popular demand.

1215
01:19:34,824 --> 01:19:38,939
The stem camp is incredibly popular. So March 11 to

1216
01:19:39,264 --> 01:19:42,796
15th, that will be happening. Our chamber of Commerce meet

1217
01:19:42,841 --> 01:19:47,665
and greet March 12. And AI in the workplace session

1218
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:51,825
is March 19. So really great suite of programming that

1219
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:54,585
is coming. Down the pipe. And with that, that is

1220
01:19:54,630 --> 01:20:00,415
the economic development and venture 13 update. Excellent. We're going

1221
01:20:00,420 --> 01:20:03,055
to move on. Any questions or comments from members of

1222
01:20:03,060 --> 01:20:07,534
the committee? Okay? Perfect. Just a brief announcement, in case

1223
01:20:07,579 --> 01:20:11,387
I haven't said it enough. We have the civic awards

1224
01:20:11,792 --> 01:20:15,347
open. We are in the civic award reception. We do.

1225
01:20:17,752 --> 01:20:20,187
Have a few categories where we have yet to receive

1226
01:20:20,512 --> 01:20:22,667
a nomination, so I want to make sure that. Everyone

1227
01:20:22,752 --> 01:20:25,667
knows that. If you've got those great volunteers, if you've

1228
01:20:25,672 --> 01:20:28,467
got those great community members out there who haven't been

1229
01:20:28,752 --> 01:20:32,867
recognized for their exceptional contributions as community. Please. Not buy.

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01:20:33,192 --> 01:20:34,707
My office is always open or you can always speak

1231
01:20:34,952 --> 01:20:37,227
to one of the Coberg. Staff here about the process

1232
01:20:37,592 --> 01:20:39,501
to get. Someone nominated for a civic ward. Thank you,

1233
01:20:39,826 --> 01:20:47,227
chair. Excellent. On to director goods. Thank you, chair. I

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01:20:47,232 --> 01:20:51,566
do have a few exciting things going on. Winter is

1235
01:20:51,931 --> 01:20:53,846
we're about midway through, and spring is upon us. Community

1236
01:20:54,211 --> 01:20:56,206
services has a lot of change and exciting things planned

1237
01:20:56,491 --> 01:21:00,806
for 2024. And we're well into implementation plans and working

1238
01:21:00,891 --> 01:21:04,406
with staff on implementing all the important decisions and projects

1239
01:21:04,491 --> 01:21:08,526
from the 2024 budget. The campground has an exciting new

1240
01:21:09,291 --> 01:21:12,826
web sales. So web. Online booking that is working well

1241
01:21:13,511 --> 01:21:17,267
and effective and. Almost all the sites that have now

1242
01:21:17,352 --> 01:21:20,027
opened up are booked and sold, and we're excited. To

1243
01:21:20,032 --> 01:21:24,650
see. Some that new tool to drive tourism to the

1244
01:21:24,975 --> 01:21:29,090
waterfront and the downtown and allow staff to focus on

1245
01:21:29,095 --> 01:21:32,576
some other maintenance activities and customer support. In the off

1246
01:21:33,021 --> 01:21:36,178
season. The marina registrations have also opened. All the seasonal

1247
01:21:36,183 --> 01:21:39,738
bookings have been taken, but there's lots of transient space

1248
01:21:40,103 --> 01:21:42,298
available, but it is filling up very quickly. So I

1249
01:21:42,343 --> 01:21:45,818
do encourage the public and visitors to book those times

1250
01:21:46,463 --> 01:21:50,119
and spots quickly. On our free and public events. We

1251
01:21:50,124 --> 01:21:55,443
have lots of trails and outdoor spaces. Obviously open to

1252
01:21:55,488 --> 01:21:58,083
the public throughout the winter as well. But the rink

1253
01:21:58,408 --> 01:22:01,603
with the outdoor rink with our fairly reasonable winter weather

1254
01:22:01,648 --> 01:22:03,923
we've had lately. The ice is good quality and it's

1255
01:22:04,208 --> 01:22:06,563
busy, but I do encourage people to make use of

1256
01:22:06,568 --> 01:22:10,093
those before the spring weather comes. As far as other

1257
01:22:10,178 --> 01:22:12,773
rooms and facilities we do have as part of the

1258
01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:15,853
2024 budget, some of the user fees have been updated

1259
01:22:16,178 --> 01:22:18,813
and will increase in stages throughout the years. So I

1260
01:22:18,818 --> 01:22:22,652
did want to encourage the public. To make use of

1261
01:22:22,977 --> 01:22:25,292
this opportunity to take as many bookings as they can

1262
01:22:25,577 --> 01:22:28,612
before the rates rise. There's a unique window of opportunity

1263
01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:31,372
here to make use of those facilities at last. Year's

1264
01:22:31,817 --> 01:22:35,777
prices. And one I did want to highlight one special

1265
01:22:36,102 --> 01:22:39,257
project in the downtown, the Albert street washrooms. Project that

1266
01:22:39,262 --> 01:22:42,817
was approved in previous year. Budget is moving along. It's

1267
01:22:42,822 --> 01:22:44,897
been a little slower. Than we had hoped. But the

1268
01:22:45,222 --> 01:22:48,097
doors are installed, so the building now looks ready. But

1269
01:22:48,382 --> 01:22:52,097
there are still some mechanical works underway, and we will

1270
01:22:52,422 --> 01:22:55,798
come back to council. With an opening date as soon

1271
01:22:55,843 --> 01:22:58,078
as we know it, but thankfully, we're now measuring in

1272
01:22:58,443 --> 01:23:01,878
weeks instead of months. There's some hardware, like the accessibility

1273
01:23:02,003 --> 01:23:04,718
door opening hardware that we don't yet have in our

1274
01:23:04,963 --> 01:23:07,278
hands, so we need to get that installed before it's

1275
01:23:07,563 --> 01:23:09,518
fully open to the public, but we're exciting to see

1276
01:23:09,843 --> 01:23:12,118
progress there, and we'd be able to reactivate that building

1277
01:23:12,523 --> 01:23:16,589
in a new way. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Excellent. Any

1278
01:23:16,994 --> 01:23:22,260
questions? Comments from members of council? Perfect. No. Appreciate the

1279
01:23:22,305 --> 01:23:26,226
update on the washrooms, because I know. That's a hot

1280
01:23:26,751 --> 01:23:31,245
topic in the community. And that's excited that that's getting

1281
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:36,956
done. Chief. Thank you, chair. We've completed the hiring process

1282
01:23:37,281 --> 01:23:40,516
for volunteer firefighters. We'll be hiring four in the next

1283
01:23:40,761 --> 01:23:42,756
week or so, and that'll bring our compliment up to

1284
01:23:43,081 --> 01:23:47,202
20, so. We'll have our full compliment again. The posting

1285
01:23:47,527 --> 01:23:50,162
will be going out in two weeks for two career

1286
01:23:50,247 --> 01:23:54,810
firefighters. We also conducted ice water rescue training last weekend

1287
01:23:54,895 --> 01:23:57,490
with half the fire department. We did have a lot

1288
01:23:57,495 --> 01:24:01,450
of bystanders, including the mayor and his son. The weather

1289
01:24:01,775 --> 01:24:04,170
was favorable for our training. And we'll be doing it

1290
01:24:04,495 --> 01:24:07,690
again for the other half department in two weeks. The

1291
01:24:07,775 --> 01:24:09,770
delivery date for the new fire truck will be August.

1292
01:24:11,215 --> 01:24:13,130
I'll put that in pencil, because I'm not sure if

1293
01:24:13,175 --> 01:24:18,117
that's going. To be the actual date. We've also secured

1294
01:24:18,442 --> 01:24:22,437
the OFM live fire training trailer for this county. So

1295
01:24:22,882 --> 01:24:26,357
last year. It was in Hamilton. This year we've secured

1296
01:24:26,442 --> 01:24:28,157
it, so it will be at our fire. Station for

1297
01:24:28,202 --> 01:24:30,917
a week in July, and we'll be conducting live fire

1298
01:24:31,242 --> 01:24:34,943
training with all seven. Departments. And for the year to

1299
01:24:34,988 --> 01:24:39,938
date, we responded to 199 calls for service. That's my

1300
01:24:40,303 --> 01:24:45,863
report. Excellent. Thank you for the update. Any questions or

1301
01:24:46,148 --> 01:24:51,554
comments from members of council? No seeing that. Mr. Larmer,

1302
01:24:51,839 --> 01:24:55,902
do you have anything to update us on? Yeah, I'll

1303
01:24:55,947 --> 01:24:59,422
just briefly give stats from the municipal law enforcement department

1304
01:24:59,547 --> 01:25:01,742
for just the month. Of January. So we're at 92

1305
01:25:01,987 --> 01:25:04,422
calls for service January. So these are calls received from

1306
01:25:05,107 --> 01:25:08,582
the public and acted upon by our officers. And just

1307
01:25:08,627 --> 01:25:10,942
to let everyone know, the officers right now. Are scheduled

1308
01:25:11,307 --> 01:25:14,942
almost a full 24 hours a day on separate shifts.

1309
01:25:15,765 --> 01:25:18,040
So the public can call the bylaw line or the

1310
01:25:18,045 --> 01:25:21,195
main number and get bylaw. And they can proceed with

1311
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,115
their complaint. It will be lodged and will be dispatched

1312
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:26,985
to officers. So just for everyone knows that they can

1313
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:28,865
call any time of the day, report any municipal law.

1314
01:25:29,190 --> 01:25:36,061
Enforcement. Issue. We have issued 157 administrative monitor penalties today.

1315
01:25:36,346 --> 01:25:40,261
So 150. Sorry. As of today's date, 150. Parking, and

1316
01:25:40,266 --> 01:25:44,261
then seven other bylaw and fractions. We've issued 237 licensing

1317
01:25:44,346 --> 01:25:46,821
events, so. We've been quite busy in that department, and

1318
01:25:46,906 --> 01:25:49,181
through amps we've conducted already. 17 screenings in the month

1319
01:25:49,426 --> 01:25:50,861
of January. So our numbers will be up from amps

1320
01:25:50,906 --> 01:25:54,051
that we reported for 2020. Three. And just one last

1321
01:25:54,736 --> 01:25:57,371
highlight I would like to just say is that the

1322
01:25:57,416 --> 01:25:59,771
bylaw department for Koberg is an active participant in the

1323
01:26:00,056 --> 01:26:02,491
Eastern Regional Regulatory hub, which is a group of individuals

1324
01:26:03,136 --> 01:26:06,291
from different ministries, agencies and authorities. They come together every

1325
01:26:06,616 --> 01:26:08,891
six weeks, and our manager sits on that. Discuss top

1326
01:26:08,936 --> 01:26:12,851
of mind issues and commonalities and how regulatory enforcement services

1327
01:26:13,256 --> 01:26:15,712
delivered. And I think this is a good step the

1328
01:26:15,757 --> 01:26:17,592
province has done in order to get a lot of

1329
01:26:17,957 --> 01:26:21,592
like minded municipal law enforcement agencies together to discuss issues.

1330
01:26:22,277 --> 01:26:23,872
So the issues right now is a date that we've

1331
01:26:24,157 --> 01:26:26,912
been part of is building public trust in response to

1332
01:26:27,277 --> 01:26:33,392
protests. Misinformation antigovernment, and sediment addressing sector challenges so involving

1333
01:26:33,477 --> 01:26:37,470
move. Movement of access contained soil and rideshare services, so

1334
01:26:37,795 --> 01:26:40,190
delivering bait products to miners is a big one as

1335
01:26:40,195 --> 01:26:43,190
well, too, which we're working the province to assist for

1336
01:26:43,195 --> 01:26:46,830
that unlicensed. Businesses, so involving illegal online sales of food

1337
01:26:47,115 --> 01:26:49,870
and tobacco, as well as home based businesses and then

1338
01:26:50,555 --> 01:26:54,230
the sharing information portion, receiving referrals, tips related to labor

1339
01:26:54,275 --> 01:26:56,342
trafficking. And then heads up alerts for officer safety and

1340
01:26:56,347 --> 01:26:59,182
best practices. And then in regards to program delivery through

1341
01:26:59,427 --> 01:27:02,182
discussions with the ministries. It's involving creation of new compliance

1342
01:27:02,267 --> 01:27:07,782
programs, policies improving compliance outcomes using behavioral insights. So this

1343
01:27:07,827 --> 01:27:10,862
whole program, or whole participation has the ability to share

1344
01:27:10,987 --> 01:27:15,053
knowledge, resources access training and build capacity for collab. Collaboration.

1345
01:27:15,730 --> 01:27:18,285
And we feel, and as discussed with the manager, this

1346
01:27:18,330 --> 01:27:19,845
is a real valuable asset to the town. To be

1347
01:27:19,850 --> 01:27:22,885
part of this group provincial wide. So that is all

1348
01:27:22,930 --> 01:27:26,323
I have to report. Excellent. Are there any questions from

1349
01:27:26,608 --> 01:27:32,208
members of council? Great seeing none. I believe that is

1350
01:27:32,253 --> 01:27:36,560
all the updates from staff. Perfect. So at this time,

1351
01:27:36,965 --> 01:27:39,951
I'm going to call for adjournment. That's at two minutes

1352
01:27:40,356 --> 01:27:42,111
to eleven. Pretty good.