1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,759 all right good evening everybody uh welcome to the town of cocher Committee 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:11,880 of the whole meeting for September 16th 2024 I shall call this meeting to order 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:15,559 first order of business is to set an agenda for the evening can I get a 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:20,880 motion to adopt the agenda from one of my colleagues up 5 00:00:18,119 --> 00:00:25,160 here councelor Reid also move the adoption the agenda as presented all 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:30,759 right all in favor of the agenda as presented that is passed unanimously 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:34,239 next item is the approval of the prev minutes looking for somebody have done 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:38,320 it okay mayor janang uh happy to approve the minutes 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:43,120 of our last meeting all right we have a motion to approve the minutes all in 10 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:47,600 favor carried unanimously and that leads us right into delegations our first 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:51,520 delegation is Rocky View foundation and Mr Chris bro is gonna be speaking with 12 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:05,720 us good evening uh my name is uh Chris R and as 13 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:10,119 CEO uh I am honored to represent Rocky view Foundation uh an organization 14 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:14,240 dedicated to providing affordable housing Solutions in the Rocky View 15 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:19,159 region today I want to provide you with a bit of an update on some of the 16 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:22,880 progress we've been making on a few projects uh share some of the challenges 17 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:28,720 that we're facing in affordable housing in this region uh recount a couple 18 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,920 stories and uh discuss some of our uh plans for the future 19 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,320 uh for those of you that might not be that familiar Rocky view Foundation is 20 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:45,240 the housing management body for the Rocky View region that includes Cochran 21 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:52,240 arre uh Crossfield a can Biser and Rocky View County uh this past year was an 22 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:58,479 exciting year for us uh just over a year ago uh we opened our third supportive 23 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:05,119 living seniors Lodge in arry uh abriel Place uh we Pur just a uh uh Hampton in 24 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:11,959 that had closed down during covid uh and was able to transition that into 93 um 25 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:18,480 senior uh living Lodge units uh adding to our portfolio which is now over 233 26 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:23,680 units and uh in addition to that is 84 apartment units uh for 27 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:30,239 seniors also in 2023 uh we took over the delivery of the rental assistance 28 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:36,239 benefit program uh for uh um on of the government of Alberta uh we were able to 29 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:42,760 see the uh client base increase from 60 to 70 people to now over 130 people uh 30 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:47,599 and uh increase of several hundred to 1.1 million in funding uh from The 31 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Province uh we continue to want to see that grow as it's a incredible program 32 00:02:49,959 --> 00:02:58,159 for our residents uh and then we've also uh had the chance in 2023 and 2024 to 33 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:03,840 pursue new funding opportunities for new projects uh we're we're still hopeful on 34 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:12,680 a few of them we were successful in uh a small Grant from cmhc for a project in 35 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:17,720 brag Creek uh if you are uh on Media or news at all nowadays affordable housing 36 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:23,200 is obviously uh something that is there all the time uh and uh oftentimes uh 37 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,760 sometimes it's simplified I just want to raise awareness of some of the 38 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:32,080 challenges that we see on a day-to-day basis uh from people walking in through 39 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:37,439 our doors or or phoning uh the first thing uh is rental market pressures uh 40 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:43,200 this is obviously a big part of the the of what we see and that is uh a large 41 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,439 part due to vacancy rates uh in 2020 in our region vacancy rates for rentals was 42 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:53,000 about 6.6% uh in 2023 it's 43 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:57,480 2.6% uh and it's probably even tighter now most economists agree that you're 44 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,799 you're probably in that five to eight% is the best neutral Market keeps 45 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:05,560 landlords engaged in the market and keeps uh enough pressures off the rental 46 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:11,519 rates to ensure that the the rates aren't skyrocketing for tenants uh so 47 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:14,640 with that being at 2.6% or even tighter uh it's added a lot of pressure to the 48 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:21,320 rental market uh another area we see uh quite 49 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:26,560 common is uh income versus housing cost this is talked a lot about in media uh 50 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,000 and uh in Alberta alone 22% of households are in core housing need 51 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:36,680 that's talked about a lot what that means is uh about if for low to Middle 52 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:40,919 inome families economists agree about 30% or less should go towards housing 53 00:04:39,039 --> 00:04:47,680 anything more then budget constraints begin to uh come in and uh really 54 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:53,840 tighten things up uh and so uh that uh 22% means that uh they're spending more 55 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:57,840 than 30% uh in housing we all see people come in with 40 50 or 60% of their 56 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:03,560 income going towards housing uh we also seeing the challenge 57 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:11,560 of an aging population uh the majority of our rental uh stock uh in our region 58 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:16,560 is not senior specific uh with a ideal dream of Aging in place this uh hinders 59 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,440 that as there's not enough um barrier free or Universal Design uh in our 60 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Marketplace for rental specifically for our um for our seniors and then of 61 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:33,400 course something that's talked about a lot is uh just uh not enough housing 62 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:37,400 though uh in Cochran and and ay and in this region there's lots of development 63 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:42,759 which is fantastic unfortunately Supply is not keeping up with 64 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:47,919 demand uh as I talk to my team about this uh often we can look at uh look at 65 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:53,360 these things but behind all the percentages are people and behind all 66 00:05:50,759 --> 00:06:00,199 the statistics are stories uh and I want to just share a few with you uh uh that 67 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:05,199 we we get to uh make a difference with I'm not going to share all these stories 68 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:09,280 um sufficient to say that we get to see uh resident and tenant feedback and even 69 00:06:07,479 --> 00:06:14,240 more so some families that come back and talk to us about just the different 70 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:18,520 outcomes uh that they're seeing in in their loved ones lives uh we're seeing 71 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:23,360 uh you know improv mental health and improve uh uh physical health we're 72 00:06:20,919 --> 00:06:27,639 seeing connections to communities we're seeing a a increase in Independence and 73 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,400 these are just incredible outcomes and we get to be take a part of every day 74 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:38,919 um but the most important thing that we do provide is a home and that's a big 75 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:44,520 part for those incomes uh want to just quickly draw you draw your attention to 76 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:51,199 this uh this story uh we had an individual who had grown up in uh Ro 77 00:06:47,479 --> 00:06:55,039 Alberta in this region uh he had worked hard uh had family in the area until 78 00:06:53,199 --> 00:07:01,199 they all moved away the siblings and all that was married uh worked all his life 79 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:06,039 uh his his uh wife unfortunately passed away and he continued to work into it 80 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:12,560 into his 70s uh and got to a point where he couldn't work anymore uh and uh and 81 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:16,479 unfortunately uh uh he he had to uh stop working and he had to rely solely on uh 82 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,560 his government pensions uh it was about springtime when 83 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,759 he realized the government pensions was going to cover his rent that had just 84 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:29,680 increased and so he um he had to make a hard decision he decided that he was 85 00:07:27,479 --> 00:07:34,400 going to move from uh the place that he had to move out of and move into his car 86 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:40,639 for the summer uh and the fall and hopefully save up some money and um make 87 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:47,080 a plan uh once the temperature started dropping uh and that happened and in the 88 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:50,720 fall uh it didn't get any easier uh if he uh he had he faced the two biggest 89 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:56,400 problems that we see in housing in our area is if he could find a place 90 00:07:53,159 --> 00:08:01,240 availability you couldn't afford it and uh but uh just through some uh some 91 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:06,360 circumstances he got in contact with one of our our lodges and talked to our team 92 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:10,759 there and he he phoned up and he asked that that first you know dreaded 93 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,759 question do you have anything available and and we did have units available and 94 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:19,639 he asked the second most dreaded question what's it cost and our team got 95 00:08:17,879 --> 00:08:24,280 to take him through the uh rank gear to income model that we have the affordable 96 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:29,000 uh affordability model uh and he quickly realized that he could he could afford 97 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:32,399 this place uh he came down quickly took a tour of the place fell in love right 98 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:37,560 away within a few short weeks he had moved out of his car and into our into 99 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:42,599 our one of our lodges and uh jumped into the community jumped into the activities 100 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,320 uh great realized his new neighbors uh had couldn't get to uh some of their 101 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:51,200 medical appointments and to some of their their shopping appointments and so 102 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,640 the car that he had been living in Prior uh to that point he was Now using for 103 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:00,240 his new neighbors to drive them around to pay it for it uh and um you know it's 104 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:05,320 just one one of many stories that that I could share of just the of making a 105 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:09,720 difference and and the life impact and uh as we look as we look forward is we 106 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:14,200 want to tell more of those stories because sometimes those stories don't 107 00:09:10,839 --> 00:09:19,600 turn out super well uh and as we as we want to tell some of those stories more 108 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:24,560 stories in the future uh kind of a two uh two uh parts of our plan moving 109 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:30,440 forward is a capital main maintenance plan uh this plan is really just to make 110 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:35,160 sure that our existing uh uh assets really continue uh to have be high 111 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:39,079 quality and be sustainable into the future so we're putting together 112 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:46,640 comprehensive plan to make sure that happens uh and the the next plan is to 113 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:51,680 um develop more uh units to develop more communities uh to build Partnerships 114 00:09:49,079 --> 00:09:55,920 pursue funding opportunities uh and look at acquiring more 115 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:00,000 units uh affordable housing is not just about 116 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:04,079 providing shelter it's about creating opportunities for a better life uh the 117 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,040 work we do at uh Rocky view Foundation is crucial for building stronger more 118 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:13,399 resilient communities if you hear anything tonight 119 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:17,800 uh hear this we don't do it Al we don't do it alone our story that we shared 120 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:22,480 here and the stories that we could share is not just Rocky view Foundation 121 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:26,680 stories uh it is the stories of uh Cochrans and and all the communities and 122 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:32,760 municipalities we partner with I want to uh say really clearly tonight we thank 123 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:37,000 you for your continued support um and uh just your uh this community support and 124 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:43,800 the communities that we serve support to to see uh stories like this happen uh I 125 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:47,360 believe that um that together we are making a lasting difference in the lives 126 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,160 of many and we're building a future a brighter future for Alberta I want to 127 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,800 thank you for uh taking the time for hearing this 128 00:10:54,079 --> 00:11:00,680 presentation all right thank you very much for your presentation let's move 129 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:05,120 into questions who is First Council flis Chris I just want to say thank you 130 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:09,600 on behalf of council for all the hard work you put in Chris has just been 131 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:14,880 there a short time and as a rep for this committee I see him in action trying to 132 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:19,720 modernize the group and um get funding in place and I know it's not an easy 133 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:25,959 task but suddenly he's an expert took over from the CAO who um retired 134 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:29,399 recently and is doing a fabulous job unfortunately we didn't get the funding 135 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:35,279 for our big Hill Lodge but we're going to keep working on it not yet my 136 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:39,560 question is um around the um rental assistance program carran has really 137 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:44,440 high rents and I'm wondering what how many people are accessing it and what 138 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:48,040 the weight list is like uh so I should have had those exact numbers with me I 139 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:53,399 apologize I can get those numbers to you and you can report on that uh but we 140 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:58,920 have um approximately 170 people on our weight list uh right now um and to be 141 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:03,320 honest it probably grows every day yeah yes I know it's a challenge we uh have a 142 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:08,920 lot of people in need and the funding's gone up but still not quite as high as 143 00:12:05,079 --> 00:12:13,639 it needs to be not at all no thank you councelor Wilson thank you thanks 144 00:12:11,959 --> 00:12:16,800 for the presentation Chris I just had a couple questions not knowing as much 145 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:22,320 about your organization as councelor flowers does which is an understatement 146 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:26,519 um just uh briefly I guess ballpark how how are you funded in percentage wise is 147 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,720 it how much from the community how much from The Province and then also just 148 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Cochran specific I never realized Evergreen Manor was 149 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:37,240 part of the portfolio and Cochran I knew about Big Hill Lodge what's the uh 150 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,199 current plan for I don't know life cycling those out I know the big hill 151 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:45,360 Lodge a little bit because we talk about it so much but Evergreen Manor is it the 152 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,720 same situation there yeah uh so the majority of our funding comes through 153 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:53,720 our rents um I don't have the exact percentage I think about 70% of our 154 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:58,079 funding comes through our rents uh we uh the next largest percentage of funding 155 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,920 comes through our our requisition uh and that's through our municipality 156 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:06,199 uh we also get um a lodge assistance program funding uh for for the lodge 157 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:14,399 program uh from the government of Alberta that's um for eligible units 158 00:13:08,959 --> 00:13:21,160 it's $20 uh $20.50 per day uh per unit uh which has increased uh just recently 159 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:26,120 uh so that's that's important and um your second question was C specific the 160 00:13:23,959 --> 00:13:30,120 two the two um different places in cochr you mentioned in the slides yeah how are 161 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:34,240 they doing life cycle wise and and what what's the plan I suppose yeah so 162 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Evergreen is is in in Fairly good shape uh we're contining to Lobby the 163 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,880 government for Capital repairs and maintenance that is a government-owned 164 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:46,920 building which we operate uh we are always uh lobbying the 165 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:53,560 government for those funds and those finances we haven't seen a lot of 166 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:57,199 um uh additional funding for that uh I just want to be careful here you know I 167 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:02,120 work work with with different levels of government so I don't want to uh trash 168 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:05,639 anybody but uh yeah we we we need more funding for for those things uh and 169 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:09,480 that's really uh preventative maintenance so we can get ahead we don't 170 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,519 want a a roof leaking we want a roof repaired when it and replac when it 171 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:20,000 needs to be repaired or Windows or whatever so uh big hill uh is um uh 172 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,720 we're we're looking at a a replacement plan for that uh currently and been 173 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:29,240 working on that for number of years we're hopeful this last round of funding 174 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:34,399 through the government of Alberta uh for HPP which is the affordable housing uh 175 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:40,079 partnership program uh there were 66 million there was 75 projects applied 176 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:46,440 for it uh eight projects got applied or got approved 52 went to just two 177 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:53,240 projects um so uh yeah there was a lot of funding uh available in this La last 178 00:14:48,839 --> 00:14:57,360 round uh but we're continuing to uh yeah apply and and try to you know see what 179 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:02,360 different models we can look at as well uh if it if we can't get HP GP 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,320 money okay thank you you brought me one more question with with something like 181 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:10,040 the big hill Lodge when it's being when we're looking to build the next one is 182 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,199 that municipality provides the land and Alberta Government funding sources you 183 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:19,079 just mentioned provide the capital for the actual uh building itself is that 184 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:23,040 the model yeah so the model nowadays is is you know uh it would be all three 185 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,800 levels of government so we would look at getting some cmhc uh funding as well 186 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,639 there'd be some Municipal funding in there you know through through a land 187 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,800 grant or something like that and HPP funding so HPP so government 188 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Alberta funds uh up to a third of the project and that's it so um there is a 189 00:15:38,199 --> 00:15:46,639 uh a large amount remaining to to get uh funded there I'll say okay thank thank 190 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:50,639 you for for that you just brought me up to speed with what some on the table 191 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:55,720 probably probably already know and thank you for the presentation appreciate it 192 00:15:52,199 --> 00:15:59,160 thank you over to councelor fedo uh thank you I just have one question uh we 193 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:03,160 know that obviously our funding was denied are you uh are you trying any 194 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:07,360 other creative ways to kind of approach this situation um or is it just kind of 195 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:10,519 apply and and continue on or are there other you kind of mentioned that there 196 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,800 are other things that you're looking at can you kind of maybe elaborate a little 197 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:17,759 bit on that yeah so so we have to be Innovative 198 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,759 in in this space nowadays um I would say our our biggest challenge in in any type 199 00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:26,440 of project is funding um and the the big announcements of federal or provincial 200 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:30,480 governments of millions or billions of dollars uh that's a lot harder to 201 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:34,639 actually get in our hands so uh being Innovative is is obviously our our 202 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,639 approach we have to be Innovative so we're looking at different Partnerships 203 00:16:36,839 --> 00:16:42,519 um you know different models that we could uh Revenue models that we can 204 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:47,920 maybe maximize our funding so we can Debt Service more so um yeah there's no 205 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:51,839 no answer today but yeah we're continuing to review and research and we 206 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,120 do a lot of reading at you know what's working in different jurisdictions to 207 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:00,600 know if there's a way that we can pull some of that knowledge and wisdom on 208 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,600 onto our side 209 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:08,640 mayor janun yeah thank you U appreciate the presentation this afternoon um 210 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,199 councelor Wilson and fedo brought up a couple of things that I was wanting to 211 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:17,760 touch on and that's funding model and I'm focusing my my comments tonight 212 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,559 mainly on the big hill Lodge um it's no secret around this rumor in our 213 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,240 community this is something we needed years ago and I know that you you share 214 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,799 that sentiment and that we're not adversaries in this we're we're 215 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:32,799 collaborating to try and get this done together um um I think um councilor 216 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Wilson you touched on a good point so the operating costs are shared amongst 217 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:43,679 the partners of the foundation but what I learned recently uh was that capital 218 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:49,160 is something that you don't requisition for and that even if um Cochran or the 219 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:52,760 viic lodge would have been successful in the grant funding from The Province it 220 00:17:50,679 --> 00:17:57,840 wouldn't have covered the entire amount of the capital build so that shortfall 221 00:17:55,799 --> 00:18:02,679 whatever that would would be is either going going to have to be raised through 222 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:09,640 fundraising which will take a period of time or there could be a capital 223 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:14,320 requisition to the communities that's so um my question is and I think I've 224 00:18:11,159 --> 00:18:19,400 answered my own question is how can we as a community help and if it's and it's 225 00:18:17,159 --> 00:18:23,760 kind of a heads up to my colleagues that as we enter budget and we see the Rocky 226 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,640 VI Foundation line item and that is operating only and I don't have the 227 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:32,200 number off the top of my head but if we are to see Big Hill Lodge in the near 228 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:37,000 future I think we're going this is my opinion I think we're going to have to 229 00:18:34,919 --> 00:18:41,400 um get on board with a capital requisition which might actually mean we 230 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:45,960 convince our partners in Rocky view Foundation the other communities to get 231 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:51,799 on board with us or find an Innovative way of doing it alone with the couple so 232 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:56,240 um I guess it's more of an education and I just is is that an accurate um train 233 00:18:54,760 --> 00:19:02,400 of thought from could have said it better myself okay no no that's that's 234 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:08,400 entirely true and um you know uh the the provincial funding does does lack when I 235 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:13,280 say it's a third um it it's a third up to a threshold and so because the costs 236 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:19,440 have gone up and the the model for the HPP Grant it's more like 25 to 27% of 237 00:19:17,159 --> 00:19:25,600 the project not a third of the project so um yeah so yeah innovative ways and 238 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:29,480 looking at at requisitioning Capital and and um you know partnering with our 239 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:33,640 other communities is yeah exactly what we need to do well and I I think it's a 240 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:38,159 it's a heads up to my colleagues too that if we are we could wait and see if 241 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:43,799 we're going to get the provincial funding then identify the shortfall in 242 00:19:40,919 --> 00:19:49,080 the build and that's going to take x amount of time to fund raise for um it's 243 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:54,280 my thought that we try and get that requisition for capital in place before 244 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,679 um or at the same time as we're being granted funding so that we're on board 245 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,520 and we know where the funding is coming from and we can get the L built as soon 246 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:06,760 as possible rather than having to Now find a funding mechanism so um my 247 00:20:04,679 --> 00:20:11,159 promise I guess to you and the community is that I will work with our my mayor 248 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,760 colleagues and councils and other the other communities in the Rocky B 249 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:18,559 foundation and with yourself to try and convince the others that this is a a 250 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:23,919 plan that we should all be paying into no matter where your Lodge might be next 251 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:28,400 um we heard BR Creek I'm sure there's more needs in aery as they continue to 252 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:31,080 grow or the other communities so yeah agree appreciate your support thank you 253 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:36,320 thank you okay councelor Reed yeah thanks 254 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:40,799 Chris for your presentation um just picking up on what the mayor was saying 255 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:45,000 so if I recall correctly then so Cochran contributed to the new Lodge in in 256 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:53,159 Aidry uh there was not Capital requisition we had Capital uh some 257 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Capital Savings uh for that uh and that was done mainly through debt servicing 258 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:03,440 so um the uh we had a cc of more mortgage approved for it uh which is a 259 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:08,960 50-year low interest uh affordable housing mortgage uh which was approved 260 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:12,120 by by all the councils yeah my the second question had to do with along the 261 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,320 line of innovation so you're talking about Innovative opportunities as it 262 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,240 relates to financing what about the the construction itself um there's some 263 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:23,640 members of council and and administration we had an opportunity to 264 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:26,760 see a project that was built in Toronto um and while it doesn't sound very 265 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:32,760 attractive in terms of ccans but it was built out of ccans and um having seen 266 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,919 their project I was really really impressed with how the quality of the 267 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:42,640 program and the housing that was made available to to these families Not only 268 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:46,279 was it the U promotion of it when we were there was how quickly they 269 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:49,039 FastTrack it I think they built it like Ian Drew might know better than I but I 270 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,679 think it was like six or eight months they built this whole structure um and 271 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:57,679 it really was quite attractive and I thought that you know maybe that rather 272 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,120 than just looking at the standard kind of building the you know building 273 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:04,480 another you know bricks and morar kind of building that there might be other 274 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:08,600 innovative ways that are both faster and More costeffective in terms of being 275 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:12,240 Innovative and I'm not sure if that is on your on your radar in terms of 276 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:16,200 looking opportunities in terms of construction as opposed to just not 277 00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:19,559 shouldn't say just financing opportunities but you know what I mean 278 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,360 like being Innovative outside of the box in terms of the construction itself no 279 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:28,200 absolutely I appreciate the comment and um in in a former life I I worked in 280 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,320 another affordable housing division I the the pro project you're probably 281 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:37,279 talking about got a rapid Housing Initiative through cmhc yeah to um do 282 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,960 these so I've done modular housing you turn projects around in in eight to 12 283 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,919 months where you know you're you're putting stuff up super quick and you're 284 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:49,080 seeing you know changes right away it's yeah no that's that's definitely another 285 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:54,039 area that we're looking at and uh the the rapid housing there's no current um 286 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,880 CC announcement coming down the pipe but there're you know every few years they 287 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:01,960 bring that back out so yeah that's I think I think again for your important 288 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:07,400 work and presentation tonight Council M Fen thank you very 289 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:12,279 much uh Mr Ro it's a pleasure to meet you um I had uh volunteered uh on the 290 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:18,320 rocky Foundation a time or two and so had a pleasure working with with Carol 291 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:22,000 and was always impressed by um how well the rocky Foundation is is managed and 292 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:25,320 the important service that you fill so congratulations and thank you for for 293 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:31,240 stepping up to the helm I know you will not be bored in this role absolutely so 294 00:23:28,919 --> 00:23:34,760 my colleagues have done have like uh kind of highlighted uh the big hill 295 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:38,880 Lodge and of course we were disappointed not to be able to get uh that Grant to 296 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:44,039 uh advance that solution of replacing the the lodge um but one of the and you 297 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:47,960 did highlight uh in your presentation there and I certainly see the growing 298 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:53,120 need for more of the manor uh type of solution and so um is there a solution 299 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:59,279 in play to perhaps develop more manners uh within your sphere absolutely yes uh 300 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:04,440 um no no no announcements but uh you when 301 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:09,039 it comes to projects like this um uh you know big hill or affordable housing 302 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:13,880 manners um all these different projects um you know my my take on it is get as 303 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:17,760 many irons in the fire uh because you don't know where the funding is going to 304 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:21,279 come so uh we we have projects a lot of them are just in their initial stages 305 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,919 but you know talking um you know about land acquisition or or you know land 306 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:29,279 grants and different communities we have land in Brad Creek uh you know looking 307 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:33,840 at how we can do more uh even in different areas here in Cochran so uh 308 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:40,080 yes it's definitely on our radar and uh when I said we uh we want to um do more 309 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:44,440 build more uh that's is obviously um big Hills is a big part of that and a big 310 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:49,039 focus on that but that's not the the only one we want to continue to uh uh 311 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:53,240 you develop as many opportunities as we can and I haven't had a chance to 312 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,880 tourers to see it yet but the the renovated hotel in uh Aidry I mean 313 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:02,240 congratulations on that I know you came in through that but um and to my 314 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:06,159 colleagues point like I thought really thought that was an Innovative solution 315 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,440 and yeah so I'm glad to hear you're just keeping open ears and to all the 316 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:13,679 different type of opportunities might be out there um so then I guess uh kind of 317 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,440 reflecting on the mayor's point that you know if we want to if the municipality 318 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:21,520 wants to be ready uh to support this growing need and our demographics and 319 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,440 our stats are all pointing to this a growing need that we have to take 320 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,679 seriously sooner rather than later um and the mayor had Ed edified that we 321 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,880 might need to start uh suppor supporting a capital 322 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:36,039 requisition um so my question kind of comes through is over the years I've 323 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:41,039 seen the rock view uh Foundation requisition has always been like minimal 324 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,039 increases which uh from a taxpayer's point of view it's I think always 325 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,679 reflected that we're getting like full value for every dime out of those 326 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,399 requisitions but are you looking at a different strategy on both your 327 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:55,720 operational requisition and then uh perhaps also uh advocating for a capital 328 00:25:54,399 --> 00:26:00,080 requisition as well are we are we going to be seeing perhaps a change in 329 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:05,120 strategy there uh yes yeah we'll be we'll be looking at a two-prong approach 330 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:10,840 to the requisition for sure one one is uh that's just as you are aware being uh 331 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:15,679 you know connected with Rocky View uh Foundation uh one is board approval one 332 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:19,399 is the C the capital side has to be approved by every municipality so uh 333 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,600 there's a bit of a different approach to that but yes so that's what we're 334 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:26,320 looking at as well okay excellent yeah and it it uh it fits a need um we keep 335 00:26:25,399 --> 00:26:30,120 you know we always go through the economic Cycles when you're like man why 336 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,279 didn't we address affordable housing when we had the chance and then the 337 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,720 cycle switches and you know focus on it so much anymore but I think um you know 338 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,520 we we really do need to start looking ahead uh especially you know uh growth 339 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,039 pressures the housing pressures you know across the country but also in 340 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,799 particular in the Cochran context when we're seeing such high growth pressures 341 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,360 and that affordability press really seems to be increasing so um I guess all 342 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,240 of it that to say you know thank you for stepping up into the role I'm sure we'll 343 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,960 keep you busy and I'm looking forward to to uh partnering and and helping assist 344 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,320 you with as many wins as we can get appreciate that thank you thank you all 345 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,640 right councelor Wilson thank you for indulging me one more time as I sit here 346 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,960 thinking about the financing we were talking about it still didn't quite add 347 00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:18,039 up for me um I agree with what councelor mcaden just said about helping you any 348 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:23,240 way we can with with the big hill Lodge so so actually um having a new Big Hill 349 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:27,840 Lodge come to fruition if I understand it right the best case scenario for us 350 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:35,159 would be a one-third cmhc so Federal contra bution a one3 provincial or HPP 351 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:41,519 so yeah um I don't want to get into the weeds here but I would I'm a finance guy 352 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:48,840 so I'd love to but um uh yeah so their threshold HPP so government of Alberta 353 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:53,600 255,000 per unit um so uh that's uh and then 33% of that so our per unit cost 354 00:27:52,159 --> 00:28:00,279 because cost of construction have gone up is well over 255,000 now so um the 355 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:05,120 last alst costing we got it was close to 400,000 so you can see the shortfall 356 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:12,120 there uh cmhc is all about debt servicing uh so uh there's no uh one 357 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:18,760 component to it we could um technically uh get approved up to probably uh 90 95% 358 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:24,679 uh financing uh the difficulty with that is that's huge debt servicing so um uh 359 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,960 yeah but they they're yeah that's and that's not fund that's not grants that's 360 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:32,640 that's mortgage yeah thank you and then the other part that I 361 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:37,279 um I guess we we didn't talk about was the the actual land itself is that so in 362 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,000 the airry example the municipality didn't have to contribute any land 363 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,360 because it was already there you're turning an old building into it in 364 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Cochran's context it's more likely that we'd be also looking at land from the 365 00:28:45,399 --> 00:28:50,360 Cochran perspective if we that's what we're supplying essentially that's one 366 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:55,000 of the things yes yeah yeah that's the plan okay okay thank you for clarifying 367 00:28:52,799 --> 00:29:01,360 all that for me appreciate it okay anything else from Council any 368 00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:06,000 from Administration would uh would a presenter like to add any final words no 369 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:12,159 thank you all right thank you very much it's been great so next up on the agenda 370 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:17,519 is the Willows land use Amendment and we have joining us uh Miss Anna Caro Deputy 371 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Mayor Nagel I just wanted to advise Council that um the live streaming is 372 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,600 currently not working it's an issue between YouTube and our um contracted 373 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,159 service provider so it's nothing that we can actually um do anything about we are 374 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:35,600 recording um and so therefore the meeting will be uploaded uh later on 375 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:39,440 once the service is available okay so we're not procedurally required to pause 376 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,880 the meeting or anything no there's no requirement for the meeting to be live 377 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:47,200 streamed just that it's available to the public to attend okay excellent thank 378 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:52,679 you right carry on okay good evening Deputy Mayor mayor 379 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:57,679 and members of council this evening I am here to present an update to bylaw 18 380 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,679 2024 which is a land use amendment in the community community of the 381 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:07,519 Willows this application again is for a land use Amendment which will amend 382 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,640 mapping in the land use bylaw the application may also require amendments 383 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,519 to the Willows of River Heights neighborhood plan as one of the land use 384 00:30:12,919 --> 00:30:18,760 Concepts the applicant is seeking Council feedback on involves infilling a 385 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,159 wetland which policy in the neighborhood plan originally intended to 386 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:30,640 preserve this application was originally submitted in June of 2023 and in October 387 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:34,720 of 2023 the applicant held a public open house to answer questions and gather 388 00:30:32,679 --> 00:30:38,640 initial feedback from residents in April of 2024 the 389 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,880 application went forward to the committee of the whole for 390 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:48,200 information uh on April 22nd the application received first reading with 391 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,760 a public hearing date set for May 13th at the public hearing Council 392 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,480 received a presentation from the applicant as well as presentations from 393 00:30:53,679 --> 00:31:00,880 members of the public feedback received from the public prompted the to create a 394 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,240 second land use concept for consideration by Council which is the 395 00:31:02,679 --> 00:31:08,320 purpose of this second Committee of the whole meeting the applicant is 396 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:12,600 requesting Council feedback on both the original land use concept and the New 397 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:15,600 Concept both of which will be detailed in this 398 00:31:13,639 --> 00:31:20,960 presentation Council feedback will inform which concept the applicant 399 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,960 brings forward to second and third 400 00:31:21,399 --> 00:31:28,200 reading this application relates to lands in Willows West which are outlined 401 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,399 on the community map here the these are some of the last lands in the Willows to 402 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,200 be developed and will facilitate completion of the 403 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,320 community development in the Willows is Guided by the River Heights area 404 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:44,360 structure plan approved in 2011 which provides highlevel policy guidance for 405 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:47,360 how the community will be developed and the Willows of River Heights 406 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,519 neighborhood plan approved in 2012 the purpose of a neighborhood plan 407 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:54,760 is to provide an overarching plan for the community in more detail than is 408 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,840 provided at the area structure plan level and provide policy guidance for 409 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:05,000 subsequent application the subject lands in Willows West did 410 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,760 already receive land use in 2014 and some amendments to the land use took 411 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,960 place in 2018 and 2022 in response to changing market and 412 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,480 environmental conditions the applicant is now requesting further amendments to 413 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,679 the land use which is the purpose of this 414 00:32:19,399 --> 00:32:24,799 application this is the current land use concept from The Willows of River 415 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Heights neighborhood plan and indicates the land use that was originally planned 416 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:32,240 for the community the concept shows two Wetlands to be 417 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,840 preserved in the neighborhood including one off of River Heights Drive which is 418 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:41,960 in the subject area for this application with high density multi-unit housing 419 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,960 proposed to surround the 420 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:48,000 Wetland as mentioned when the Willows neighborhood plan was written in 2012 421 00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:53,519 two Wetlands were identified to be protected and retained as environmental 422 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:58,559 Reserve titled Wetland 80 and Wetland 91 which are shown on this map image from 423 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:04,519 2012 Wetland 80 was classified as a class 4 Wetland and Wetland 91 a class 3 424 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:08,279 Wetland with Wetland 80 indicated as the largest and most productive wetland in 425 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:12,279 the plan area at the time of writing the neighborhood 426 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,159 plan as the communities of the Willows River Crest and River Heights have 427 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,559 advanced and Urban Development has occurred surrounding the wetlands water 428 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,799 flow to the wetlands has been reduced both wetlands are in the same 429 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:28,360 catchment area and fed through surface water so with reduced water flow they 430 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:33,399 are rece with the reduced water they are receiving they have been drying 431 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,480 up uh the water levels do fluctuate depending on 432 00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:39,799 precipitation understanding the current environmental conditions the applicant 433 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,360 sought Alberta environment's approval to infill Wetland 80 to provide further 434 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,360 residential development in the 435 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,360 community this is the land use concept that was presented to council at the 436 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,919 original Committee of the whole meeting as well as first reading and the public 437 00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:01,440 hearing the concept proposes to develop medium density housing in the center of 438 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:05,559 the plan area with park space integrated on both sides which will provide 439 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:10,200 Pathways amenity space and a physical buffer between existing residences in 440 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,159 the Willows and the new proposed development this concept also red 441 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:19,560 designates a few small Parcels in the south of the plan area down 442 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,480 here uh which will help support the planned alall link 443 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:27,240 realignment this proposal is predicated on the infill of wetland 80 which is 444 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,440 within the area currently zon community service 445 00:34:28,919 --> 00:34:34,359 I did want to note that the original application you saw included a segment 446 00:34:32,839 --> 00:34:38,839 of affordable housing which was to receive funding through the 447 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,560 cmhc the funding is now no longer available so while this concept adds the 448 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,280 opportunity for more housing options in the community there's no longer an 449 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,280 affordable housing 450 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,560 component the Alberta Wetland policy dictates that any activity that may 451 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,680 impact a wetland requires either a Water Act approval or a code of practice 452 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,599 notice this means that in order to proceed with 453 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,320 any development on the future environmental Reserve lands that contain 454 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:11,160 Wetland 80 Water Act approval from Alberta environment must be 455 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:16,280 obtained The Province granted approval to infill Wetland 80 for the purpose of 456 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:20,720 residential development on May 18th 2023 the approval was informed by a 457 00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:24,200 wetland assessment and impact report that was prepared for the applicant in 458 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,760 2022 the Wetland impact assessment report used in the province's approval 459 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:36,359 identified and classified on-site Wetlands evaluated the wetlands assessed 460 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:40,359 potential impacts to the wetlands as a result of development in Willows West 461 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:44,560 and described mitigation actions if this land use concept is 462 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,640 supported by Council the applicant is proposing to provide replacement of 463 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,440 wetland 80 through an inl payment based on the Wetland value established in this 464 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:59,800 report with the removal of the community service parcel contain meaning the 465 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:03,920 former Wetland the applicant is proposing to integrate new public park 466 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:08,079 and amenity space uh as Illustrated in the draft concept shown on this 467 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,480 slide although the Wetland is currently on privately owned land it has been 468 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,640 informally used by residents as a skating rink in the winter months the 469 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,079 applicant is proposing a floodable sports 470 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,960 amenity uh in the new park space which can be a safe and publicly accessible 471 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,960 skating rink for the community that is not currently present and would not 472 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,480 otherwise be available there is also a public 473 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,520 playground proposed in the west portion of the plan area which provide would 474 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:38,240 provide another additional new amenity the park space located on the 475 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:42,599 east side of the plan area will serve as a buffer between the existing residen uh 476 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,480 residences in the Willows and the proposed medium density 477 00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:51,400 residential the pathway shown in these Concepts would also provide connectivity 478 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,400 through the plan area and 479 00:36:52,319 --> 00:36:57,920 neighborhood again the details of land use concept one were all presented to 480 00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:02,040 council at the public Hearing in May of this year at the public hearing Council 481 00:37:00,839 --> 00:37:05,800 received a presentation from the applicant detailing the history of the 482 00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:09,920 wetlands and the reasoning behind the development proposal as well as 483 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,280 presentations from residents for which opinion was overwhelmingly in support of 484 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:19,280 preserving Wetland 80 Council heard from 24 members of the 485 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:22,880 public who spoke to the environmental recreational and social value Wetland 80 486 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,800 brings to the community main themes from the public 487 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:31,640 presentations included the loss of habitat and species that infilling the 488 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,000 Wetland would result in that the Wetland was a primary selling future when 489 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,520 purchasing homes in the area and removing it would change the area 490 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:44,200 residents bought into that the proposal to remove the Wetland goes against 491 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:47,960 existing Town policy and the perception that removing the Wetland will decrease 492 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:53,040 surrounding property values uh and result in a decreased 493 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:56,280 sense of privacy sense of privacy there were also concerns over drainage and how 494 00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:59,440 removing the Wetland would impact surrounding development 495 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,720 in response to this feedback the applicant provided a second land use 496 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,960 concept for consideration by Council this 497 00:38:06,839 --> 00:38:13,599 evening uh the applicant is seeking feedback on both this and the original 498 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,599 land use concept to inform uh which concept to bring forward for a second 499 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:20,640 and third reading this proposal retains Wetland 80 500 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:25,400 which is intended to become environmental Reserve when the lands are 501 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:29,520 subdivided the municipal government act dictates that all environmental Reserve 502 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:34,319 Land must be left in its natural state or be used as a public park if this 503 00:38:32,319 --> 00:38:37,599 concept were to be approved by Council the Wetland would remain in its natural 504 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,319 state and the ER lands would be transferred to town ownership when 505 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,920 subdivision occurs while residents currently access 506 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,599 the private lands that contain the Wetland for skating in the winter for 507 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:51,480 safety purposes the town would not permit skating when the lands become 508 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:55,000 public and no surrounding infrastructure Forest skating rate could be developed 509 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,920 due to the ER designation this land use concept 510 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,240 proposes medium density housing around the Wetland to the west and south with 511 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:06,920 with park space in the northeast corner of the subject 512 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:11,119 lands this option provides more flexibility in housing form than the 513 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:15,400 current rmx land use and retains the Wetland as a natural feature but does 514 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:19,280 not include the park space behind existing residences that concept one 515 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:23,200 provides to compensate for the removal of the 516 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:28,560 Wetland concept 2 also rezones the utility Corridor to the West at to 517 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:34,640 community service and three small Parcels again these ones the same as 518 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:37,599 concept one uh to help ACC accommodate the planned alink 519 00:39:40,359 --> 00:39:46,280 realignment this slide presents a summary of the impacts of both landies 520 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,440 concept one and two through concept one Wetland 80 and 521 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,920 the surrounding habitat will be permanently revie removed with 522 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:59,240 compensation being provided through inlo payment through concept two the Wetland 523 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,680 will continue to exist but the surrounding conditions will likely 524 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:07,480 result in it no longer serving a wetland function over time while Wetland 80 has 525 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,680 been informally used as a skating rink it has been on private property and if 526 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:17,400 it were to be if it were to remain and be designated as ER skating would not be 527 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:21,280 permitted the amenity Concepts proposed within the neighborhood plan provide as 528 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:24,880 floodable Sports amenity which can act as a safe and publicly accessible 529 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:29,440 skating rink in the winter months the plan also proposes an additional 530 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:33,880 playground that currently does not exist the new land uses within concept 531 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,440 one add park space behind all of the existing residences in the Willows 532 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,640 whereas in concept two there's residential zoning adjacent to most of 533 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,440 the existing properties concept one allows more 534 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:50,160 opportunity for diverse housing options and concept 2 offers the opportunity for 535 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:54,319 some medium density housing but fewer units and in a more constricted space 536 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:58,640 which limits design opportunities the location of park space 537 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,240 in concept one allows for added Pathways and connectivity through the plan area 538 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,119 and in concept two there would be fewer Pathways with the majority of Green 539 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:08,359 Space being located in the center of the plan 540 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:13,000 area the resulting impacts of the current land use versus the impacts of 541 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:16,240 land use in concept 2 are not materially different so they're not shown for 542 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,800 comparison on this slide but I will be touching on it 543 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:27,720 shortly Administration also completed an analysis on how each of these land use 544 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,760 Concepts aligns with existing town policy the current Municipal development 545 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,599 plan sustainability plan Council strategic plan and River Heights area 546 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:41,760 structure plan were all evaluated for policy relevant to this 547 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,920 application all of the documents have policy which relate to providing a 548 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,760 diverse housing mix physical connectivity and pedestrian pathway 549 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:54,000 systems providing a variety of recreational opportunities and the 550 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:58,400 preservation of ecologically significant areas including 551 00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:01,839 wetlands this table to the right outlines how each of the land use 552 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:06,680 Concepts responds to policy guidance compared to the current land 553 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:11,319 use concept one increases housing diversity compared to the current uh 554 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,599 zoning by rezoning the area to medium density housing and expanding the 555 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:19,160 current developable land base concept two would increase housing 556 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,720 diversity by a smaller degree as there is a much more limited space and not as 557 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,559 much opportunity to provide different housing 558 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:30,240 forms concept one enhances connectivity in the neighborhood with the new design 559 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,720 and orientation of park space while concept 2 would provide the same amount 560 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,800 of connectivity as the land use that's currently 561 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:42,160 approved concept one enhances Community amenities by providing a new allseason 562 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:46,319 amenity space and a new playground because concept 2 wouldn't 563 00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:50,160 allow for public skating once the Wetland transitions to environmental 564 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:54,319 reserve the neighborhood would be losing an amenity space they were previously 565 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:59,079 taking advantage of with the removal of wetland 80 566 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,800 concept one is decreasing alignment with policy advocating for Environmental 567 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,800 Protection acknowledging that the province is the body responsible for 568 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:11,280 making development decisions on Wetlands concept 2 maintains current 569 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:16,000 policy alignment for environmental preservation as Wetland 80 will remain 570 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:19,160 as Reserve Land following subdivision and left in its natural 571 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:25,760 state as so this slide will provide one last summary of the three land use 572 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:29,480 scenarios that are to be considered by Council 573 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:34,200 this is the approved land use that currently applies to the plan area under 574 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:38,599 the current zoning Wetland 80 would be retained and transition to ER and the 575 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:43,440 surrounding area would be developed as residential mix housing when the wet uh 576 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:47,079 Wetland transitions to town ownership there will be no authorized skating in 577 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:52,359 the winter months land use concept one proposes to 578 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:57,119 infill Wetland 80 and comprehensively develop the area as medium density 579 00:43:54,599 --> 00:44:01,599 housing there will be an additional Park and for Seas an amenity space that will 580 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,119 not otherwise exist additional pathway connections and the rezoning of the 581 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,160 small Parcels to the South to accommodate the ult link 582 00:44:08,359 --> 00:44:14,720 realignment land use concept 2 would retain Wetland 80 and the surrounding 583 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,960 area would be developed under the residential medium density Zone the 584 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,680 applicant has advised that there will be little to no difference in the number of 585 00:44:20,359 --> 00:44:28,319 units provided under rmx versus rmd but the rmd zoning provides more flexibility 586 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:32,200 in the design and orientation of units as with the current land use 587 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:38,079 skating would not be permitted in the winter months and like land use concept 588 00:44:35,319 --> 00:44:42,839 one concept two red designates those few small Parcels in the south of the plan 589 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,839 area for the alter link 590 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,800 realignment uh next steps for this application include council's 591 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,640 consideration of second and third reading following council's feedback 592 00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:56,280 from this meeting the applicant will proceed with their chosen option which 593 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:00,960 will be reviewed by Administration and brought back to council for a decision 594 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,520 once land use has been uh established subdivision will occur followed by 595 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:09,920 development and building permits and then construction completion estimated 596 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,920 for 2026 to 597 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:16,920 2027 that concludes my presentation I will now be joined by Mark kinsky our 598 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,319 director of community growth to answer any 599 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,680 questions uh thank you for the presentation before we head into 600 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,359 questions can I just clarify uh what administration is looking for from 601 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,480 Council since we don't normally make decisions 602 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,200 uh in these meetings yeah thank you for the question 603 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:38,200 uh Deputy Mayor eagel what we're really looking for is a commentary for members 604 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:42,520 of council as to a preferred uh concept that will inform uh the applicant's 605 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:47,040 decision on which concept to proceed with in the second and third reading if 606 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:53,760 uh Council would like to provide their uh opinions and discussion okay great uh 607 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:57,359 who would like to share their opinion mayor 608 00:45:54,599 --> 00:46:01,480 janang happy to kick off the commentary and I appreciate your question Deputy 609 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:06,200 Mayor about how to proceed uh this is kind of unknown territory for us and how 610 00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:10,200 we provide feedback and um my first comment is I really like this approach I 611 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,640 appreciate that we've heard something at a public hearing it might be uh well we 612 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:19,720 we heard from as you say 24 U people in our community that are 613 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:24,000 really upset with the with a proposal and then uh to working with the 614 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:27,640 applicant and coming back with options and using the committee the whole this 615 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:32,880 way I think is is really really good approach so I appreciate that um I was 616 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:37,240 going to get into a bit of commentary around like one of the options Council 617 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:42,920 has is to do nothing which is to leave as is but you touched on that at the 618 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:49,960 very end so I appreciate that um one question I have is in regards to um the 619 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:54,040 Ala link realignment if concept two were to proceed does that allow for that 620 00:46:52,240 --> 00:47:00,520 realignment because I believe that impacts other communities to the South 621 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:05,559 through the chair that is correct so yes the Ala link is taken care of through 622 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,960 the chair yes concept to would address uh the land use changes required that 623 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:15,680 would help increase alignment with the alic uh relocation all right thank you 624 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:22,040 um I guess um what I like about the approach that's being taken with Concept 625 00:47:17,319 --> 00:47:25,960 2 is the preservation of the Wetland and what I think wasn't clear in the public 626 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,800 hearing and I think there might be a misconcept ception with some of the land 627 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:35,599 owners in the area is if Council were to choose the option to do nothing 628 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:40,319 something is still happening there um so I I just wanted to put that out in the 629 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:44,559 public commentary that uh um regardless of what decision we make and I guess if 630 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:51,160 it's to do nothing there are going to be some or there is going to be some 631 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:54,440 development in that area um the and this this is more of a comment than a 632 00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:57,599 question obviously but as with most decisions that we are faced with there's 633 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:02,520 no right and there's no no wrong here there's pros and cons to each and I 634 00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:08,440 guess while I would lean to the environmental aspect of this of concept 635 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:11,960 to in preserving the Wetland it's not the ideal setting to preserve the 636 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:16,400 Wetland into the future because of some of the development that's already 637 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:21,119 occurred that ship is sailed and the waters that can be directed into a 638 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:27,000 natural Wetland through Alberta environment are restricted to natural 639 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:31,400 sources not runoff from communities am I correct on that uh through the chair 640 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:36,319 that is correct original so we could be in a in a position down the road where 641 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,960 we choose concept to preserve the wet land everybody's happy today but the wet 642 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:45,480 land dries up and we're left with a different problem into the future uh 643 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:52,319 through the chair that is correct okay all right I at this point I I appreciate 644 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,400 the approach and I'm leaning towards the I don't know if that's what you're 645 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:59,359 looking for as a pro and a thumb up or down on which concept I'm leading 646 00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:03,000 towards concept to uh through the chair uh yes that is correct Mong we're really 647 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:06,839 looking for commentary that can help shape the decision by the applicant on 648 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,599 uh which direction they would like to proceed for second and third reading so 649 00:49:08,799 --> 00:49:15,359 thank you for your uh your Insight councelor Wilson thank you uh 650 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,559 the mayor asked my first question which was there's no alternative way to get 651 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:23,040 water into the Wetland simply because of provincial legislation that's what I 652 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,240 just heard that it's essentially going to dry up it sounds like I know 653 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,280 obviously we can't predict the future but it uh the way it's been trending 654 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:34,680 since 2012 is a slow evaporation of the wet Wetland does that seem reasonable to 655 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,559 think that it is going to dry up uh through the chair based on some of the 656 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:42,040 reports that we reviewed we believe there is an indication uh that the 657 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:46,240 Wetland is uh moving in the direction and failing uh especially in relation to 658 00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:50,880 other Wetlands we've seen uh in the vicin in the vicinity thank you and you 659 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,680 just confirmed with the mayor that there is no way to direct water to the Wetland 660 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,839 that's outside of our control that's an Alberta regulation uh through the chair 661 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:04,240 uh there are some very specific regulations about how to direct water 662 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:09,280 into a wetland but as the uh mej ask the question directing storm 663 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:13,760 water directly into the Wetland without significant additional uh investment and 664 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,480 Remediation efforts uh is not appropriate I believe the applicant had 665 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:23,280 PRI tried previously and been directed to stop by Alberta environment as 666 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:27,520 well those are very disappointing answers not not that we control much of 667 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:31,359 any of that it sounds like but it's disappointing nonetheless to me and so 668 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:34,880 as I said here then I I appreciate the mayor just pointing out that there's 669 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,559 three options before us no option includes nothing happening there and 670 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,839 absolute status quo because there's already Zoning for houses to go in there 671 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:48,079 and so my next question is between what's the existing Lan use and concept 672 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:52,119 2 I had a little trouble it looked like it was virtually the same except for the 673 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:57,000 housing type might be slightly different and the reason I'm asking this is I try 674 00:50:54,200 --> 00:51:00,280 to when I'm making suggestions or or when I'm making decisions up here I've 675 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:04,280 I've got two hats on I've got the entire Community hat on and I've got the what 676 00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:08,559 if I were a resident living right there hat on that I'm thinking about and with 677 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:13,280 the if I was living right there is is it fair to say that the housing type I 678 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:16,040 think I heard is likely to be more mixed and possibly more attractive to the 679 00:51:14,839 --> 00:51:20,880 neighbors that are currently living there with Concept 2 rather than current 680 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:25,520 land use is that too simple to say through the chair councel Wilson uh the 681 00:51:22,839 --> 00:51:29,640 medium density land use to provide a gr a greater range of alternativ to inform 682 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:34,359 uh the development of the site so that is uh that is correct however densities 683 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:39,880 due to the uh fiscal restrictions of the site are unlikely to vary significantly 684 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:44,599 uh between the two different land uses right I did hear that okay and so in in 685 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,520 a nutshell for me if I've understood it all correctly if I'm a resident living 686 00:51:46,359 --> 00:51:54,480 there the two choices I have before me are um would I like a park or would I 687 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:58,839 like a wetland that's likely to dry up but we're not sure the the two things 688 00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:03,319 that sit before us right now and that's not real attractive I I suppose if I 689 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:06,920 live there I would say um I would I would probably appreciate the the park 690 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,319 option but I heard loud and clear from the public hearing that there is a large 691 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:17,559 number of people that would like it to remain in its environmental State and so 692 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:22,480 um listening as I do I I would say that concept 2 appeals more to me right now 693 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,280 which is what we're sitting here trying to determine so I guess that's my two 694 00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:30,319 cents if if I me through the chair just because because I just listening to this 695 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:34,480 questioning I think um my recollection of the public hearing is as well that 696 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:39,880 there's really um some sensitivity from existing residents and I think 697 00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:44,839 reasonably as to what their um interface would be with this property um after a 698 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,680 potential change and um I haven't heard in the dialogue with Council which is 699 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:54,200 the only reason I I raise this and I look for um Mark to confirm this is that 700 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:58,440 um in land use concept two a significant amount of those properties would have 701 00:52:55,839 --> 00:53:04,799 direct interface with the residential development where is in land use concept 702 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:08,720 one um I think that there is a green space or a public space that would serve 703 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:12,520 as an interface there so I just point that out as a distinction that I think 704 00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:16,000 would be meaningful if again if I think councelor Wilson like you said if I put 705 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:20,079 my resident hat on there there's a pretty big difference between backing 706 00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:23,839 onto a park versus backing directly onto another residential development as well 707 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:28,160 so that's just a um something that I wanted to um share I don't know Mark if 708 00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:33,480 you have any anything to add to that through the chair uh CEO mik DK that is 709 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:38,920 correct there could be development that would uh back on to existing residents 710 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:43,760 uh under either the existing or concept 2 of course all of the uh setback 711 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:47,319 requirements with in the existing land use bylaw would still uh would still 712 00:53:45,799 --> 00:53:51,319 comply but they would no longer back on to an undeveloped parel that's an 713 00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:54,240 excellent point I'm glad the CEO brought that up again that was what I was 714 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:58,359 thinking if I was a if I was a resident living there and I had all this 715 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:02,319 information in front of me the concept one would be my preference knowing 716 00:54:00,359 --> 00:54:06,160 everything that we know I'm not sure if everybody that was at the public hearing 717 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:12,000 understood the consequences I'm I'm not sure um what I do know is that the 718 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:18,200 overwhelming maybe all the entire everybody in the gallery um seem to 719 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:24,240 propose the or support the um leaving it in its natural state and so um hopefully 720 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:27,359 there's there's some more thought about this from the local residents I guess 721 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,040 the only other the other thought going through my head right now is that in a 722 00:54:28,839 --> 00:54:35,040 zoomed out more Cochran approach what what is better for Cochran it does seem 723 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:39,319 that concept one with the increased connectivity and perhaps extra amenities 724 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:46,359 is better for the community as a whole but um a lot to weigh and I I suppose I 725 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:52,000 would still land toward lean towards um concept two provided tonight although 726 00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:56,400 like I said I I'm pretty gray on this I'll I'll let the others talk it out 727 00:54:53,760 --> 00:55:02,200 here it's a l it's a lose lose it does sound like to me over to councelor foro 728 00:55:00,359 --> 00:55:06,559 uh thank you through Mr Jericho to Mr kazinski I just wanted to talk about the 729 00:55:04,359 --> 00:55:13,040 interface uh so you said the interface from the existing plan the current land 730 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:16,880 use to concept 2 is is the same is that what I kind of 731 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:21,599 heard uh through the chair councelor Fido uh yes the interface between the 732 00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:26,480 existing residents and a uh residential medium density District as well as a 733 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,880 residential uh MX District would be relatively similar the closest that we 734 00:55:28,799 --> 00:55:33,559 probably have within our land use yeah like the current land use that's we've 735 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:38,039 has already been approved it's going to be the same as what's being in concept 736 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:41,880 to there is a slight difference the uh through the chair the land use that is 737 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:45,960 being requested is uh residential medium density uh for a portion of it and it is 738 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:51,119 currently residential mixies okay um sorry mixed with with 739 00:55:49,319 --> 00:55:55,799 this New Concept was there any public engagement done with it has this gone 740 00:55:53,039 --> 00:56:01,160 back out to uh the residents or is it just you know something that was 741 00:55:57,559 --> 00:56:05,520 designed from the developer side or just trying to gain kind of where the 742 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,920 residents fit into in the picking of these two 743 00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:19,440 plans uh through the chair 2 councelor fedo the new land use concept didn't go 744 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:23,200 out for um public engagement as it was responding directly to the feedback that 745 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,760 the applicant received from the public at the public 746 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,480 hearing um the land use is still the same 747 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:34,200 surrounding the Wetland so the change is just retaining the Wetland versus 748 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:39,680 infilling the Wetland so no there wasn't direct public 749 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:43,119 engagement on this concept specifically um emails did go out to the public 750 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,640 informing them of this meeting so that they can be advised and up to date on 751 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,760 the current changes okay so I'll give you my opinion I would vote to uh leave 752 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:53,760 it the same at the current landies for right now until we can uh hear from the 753 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:59,119 residents so that they also have an opportunity to give their opinion on 754 00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:03,440 what plan possibly might uh be better or impact them less I'm not willing to uh 755 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,119 give an opinion on concept one or concept two until iosi engage with the 756 00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:15,240 residents counselor flowers it is a dilemma there's no right 757 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:20,599 answer I guess there's not going to be any skating on any of the options 758 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:26,520 right uh through the chair counc of flowers uh in concept one the applicant 759 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:30,160 is proposing uh to construct a new uh for season amenity that would include 760 00:57:28,359 --> 00:57:34,240 basketball carts uh during the summer months and then a floodable skating rink 761 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:39,079 uh in the winter which would provide skating amenity but then we would lose 762 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:43,440 the Wetland with the goal being the Wetland um being preserved I know that's 763 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,480 what the people want and the petition that was signed that that's really what 764 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:54,119 people want so I I don't think they're going to be happy with um the end result 765 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:58,799 but I do think the option two is um the best choice considering everything that 766 00:57:55,799 --> 00:58:04,000 we've had in front of us and um I'm hoping that somehow the Wetland Will 767 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,880 Survive and with new technology and new ways of dealing with the environment 768 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,520 somehow we can save it and make sure that it's there 769 00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:19,520 forever councilor Reed yeah it is quite a dilemma um you know wetlands are an 770 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:24,640 important U diminishing return or resource in terms of our any community 771 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:29,319 and critically important um I guess from my perspective I I 772 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:34,079 I think it you know it's the as the mayor kind of suggested it's a choosing 773 00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:39,200 between two evils so to speak um for me I I would prefer a concept one I think 774 00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:44,760 if if I were a resident in that area having this additional information and 775 00:58:41,319 --> 00:58:49,319 being what it is um with the concern that that wet land will dry up 776 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:53,480 inevitably it would be my take on it that what uh concept one would 777 00:58:50,880 --> 00:59:00,119 definitely be appropriate in terms of the um Pathways the recreational use the 778 00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:04,640 uh proximity of other homes to the current homes I I just think you know as 779 00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:09,319 Council Wilson said if you look back up what's best for for all of Cochran and I 780 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,920 think I you know I feel that way for the residents of this community having this 781 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,079 additional information that would be the that's where I would go concept 782 00:59:16,839 --> 00:59:24,400 one Council mcf um yes thank you very much uh first question just for 783 00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:30,559 clarification uh in all three of the options uh proceed or um concept one or 784 00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:35,119 two uh all of them have spoken to the alter link alignment correct there is a 785 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:39,559 solution for alter Link in all three uh through the chair uh counselor mcfaden 786 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,760 uh in the in the event that neither concept one nor concept two were 787 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:47,839 supported then uh there's still ability for the alter link transmission line to 788 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:52,520 go through however would not um support the land use change um that would help 789 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:56,640 enable that there is an option uh of course to work with the applicant if 790 00:59:54,119 --> 01:00:02,400 they desired to still proceed with second or third reading of the land use 791 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:08,240 change solely for the uh two Parcels impacted by the uh alter link 792 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:12,400 realignment okay so okay so staying in the current land 793 01:00:10,359 --> 01:00:16,039 use the uh we're going to have to work with the applicant to find a a solution 794 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:20,039 for the alter link realignment still is that correct through the chair that is 795 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:24,400 correct okay all right I just want to understand that and so um just thinking 796 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:30,680 back it was on Council when uh the Willows application first came 797 01:00:26,839 --> 01:00:34,359 um to council chambers and um one of the the highlights and I remember to this 798 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:40,359 day was how important the preservation of this Wetland uh really was to the 799 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:46,520 community um even way back when so uh I wasn't uh surprised at all that when the 800 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:51,880 proposal to uh remove the wetlands uh came forward um that we had such uh 801 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:56,359 substantial public interest in preserving the wetlands it's a really 802 01:00:53,400 --> 01:01:01,480 important feature to our residents um and supportingly I think what 525 folks 803 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:06,799 uh signed the petition and we had such extensive uh public hearing on this item 804 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:11,960 that uh I think you know is loud and clear that we value keeping the wetlands 805 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:16,079 here um I certainly uh hear and have heard since the very beginning that uh 806 01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:20,520 their ability to preserve themselves in their current state is at risk but um 807 01:01:18,839 --> 01:01:26,440 what I really heard from the residen is they really want to keep um the Green 808 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:31,760 Space of that and so I think even if uh the Wetland changes in its nature due 809 01:01:28,839 --> 01:01:36,480 to the buildout around it um as a green space it is still highly valuable to the 810 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:41,319 residents um and I think a lot of um the residents the folks that participated in 811 01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:45,400 the process um you know did hear the the potential of different types of uh 812 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,880 amenities to that whether it was keeping it in the natural Green Space or the 813 01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:55,240 different amenities and connectivities uh that the developer has proposed um 814 01:01:52,359 --> 01:01:59,760 but um you know for my lens I think the community is spoken very loudly that 815 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:05,440 they wanted to keep that and so that's a priority for me um my challenge I think 816 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:10,400 back to yourselves and the developer is to come up with as much of a a 817 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:14,520 mitigating strategy and a buffer between the existing uh homes and the new ones 818 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:18,359 that are going to be built out you'd identify that there is going to be you 819 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:23,359 know the required setbacks there so I would really ask that we get um you know 820 01:02:21,319 --> 01:02:28,799 creative in considering how we can mitigate negative impacts there um 821 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:33,960 but I also um wanted to flag that I highly agree with councelor fedo that I 822 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:39,480 actually I view this as a substantial change the uh application and um I think 823 01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:44,319 we really do need to ensure that we build in an opportunity for public 824 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:48,480 feedback on this change and so if that requires a second public hearing I would 825 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:52,359 certainly support this I I feel this is a substantial enough change that it does 826 01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:58,920 warrant allowing the public to communicate um their feelings on this so 827 01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:02,599 that's my at this time and uh echoing councelor fco's thoughts um I'm looking 828 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,920 forward to being able to hear back from our residents what they think of the 829 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:10,520 proposed changes thank you so I believe everybody on Council has had an 830 01:03:08,839 --> 01:03:15,160 opportunity to speak I'm going to weigh in before doing round two of comments um 831 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:19,799 so can you please clarify what the difference is between uh rmd and rmx for 832 01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:22,640 myself and anybody else who's watching the 833 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:26,279 presentation uh through the chair I'd be happy to uh deputy mayor uh Council 834 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:31,000 Nagel uh so some of the primary differences 835 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:36,640 between rmx zoning and rmd Zoning is there is a ability to go to an extra 2 836 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:43,440 meters higher in Building height and the rmx zoning allows up to a maximum of 65 837 01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:49,480 units per hectare whereas rmd zoning has a range of about 35 uh units per Hector 838 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:53,200 to 60 or to 95 units per Hector so rmx actually falls right directly in the 839 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,240 middle uh as I mentioned previously due to some of the physical constraints of 840 01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:00,599 the lot sizes um in the land and the nature of how it 841 01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:05,240 uh remains for the development of the rmd it is unlikely to result in 842 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,640 significant increase in the number of units or density uh within the rmd 843 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:13,240 zoning uh also based on conversations that we've had with the applicant that's 844 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:17,359 really to provide additional uh flexibility in how they design uh how 845 01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:23,520 they design their development on the site which could enable uh more units um 846 01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:28,119 being adjacent to each other uh with a shared party wall than would be 847 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:33,680 permitted in an RM RX landies and the higher height was that in rmx or rmd the 848 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:37,720 higher height is in rmd and also comes with the ability for if the applicant 849 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,960 went to that height uh for the Development Authority to request uh 850 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:46,039 additional setbacks okay um having seen and being 851 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:50,119 part of a number of public hearings over the past I guess year and a half in this 852 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,640 General vicinity I think people want us to pack less houses in not more and so 853 01:04:52,400 --> 01:05:00,359 I'm definitely on the housing style in favor of option three nothing uh with 854 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:03,279 regards to the actual Wetland I agree with something I think Council M faten 855 01:05:01,799 --> 01:05:06,640 was touching on that just a natural space even if it is drying up I think 856 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:11,680 people just are happy with the natural space but uh I would also just suggest 857 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:15,039 that this um this kind of indicates a failure in our general policy which I 858 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:21,079 think this group has never really worked on is uh our Wetland policy if we if we 859 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:24,079 zoned or past councils zoned to protect this Wetland and then what was built 860 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,680 around it has destroyed the Wetland that means our Wetland Conservation has has 861 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:30,880 failed and now the developer is telling us well what you approved actually 862 01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:34,720 didn't protect the white land so I think in future applications we need to be um 863 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,480 looking for a different policy that actually ensured that Wetlands we trying 864 01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:44,000 to protect are being protected because obviously we did not protect this one um 865 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:50,400 okay so I'm an option three kind of guy uh mayor J yeah thank you I just wanted 866 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:54,799 to clarify something we're hearing about public engagement and uh at all I'm not 867 01:05:53,319 --> 01:05:58,920 trying to suggest that we we don't listen to the public I think we're we're 868 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:04,760 all here we've had the public hearing is what's generating uh this discussion um 869 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:10,119 my question is and I think I know the answer but if the applicant were to do 870 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:14,400 nothing or change nothing the current land use there is no obligation 871 01:06:11,799 --> 01:06:19,000 whatsoever to do any public hearing or any public engagement because that was 872 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:23,200 that ship sailed years ago when that application was first brought before the 873 01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:26,079 council at that time uh through the chair that is correct there isn't public 874 01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:33,119 engagement required with the current approval in place so choosing to do 875 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:37,599 nothing is there is absolutely no public engagement in that so really what we're 876 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:42,400 faced with tonight is or at second reading is concept one is what the 877 01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:50,720 public hearing was about and it was about filling in the land or into the uh 878 01:06:46,240 --> 01:07:00,000 Wetland concept two is a re design I guess of the of the current 879 01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:05,520 approved land use is that a a fair assessment of other than the changing 880 01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:10,680 from rmx to rmd and the ELA link uh realignment there's relatively nothing 881 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:14,279 changing from status quo uh through the chair that's correct uh Marin the only 882 01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:18,240 thing I would add is that there would have been public engagement when the 883 01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:22,599 land use was put in place originally in either 2014 or 2018 when the current 884 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:28,000 approved land use uh was approved right so I my the Crux of my 885 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:36,480 question is going to be that if Council were to choose option or concept two uh 886 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:42,240 and want more public engagement um is that an option does what what is how 887 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:45,119 does that work uh through the chair uh a second public hearing is not 888 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,559 legislatively required as the changes made to the application or indirect 889 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:52,200 response to the feedback heard from the public hearing however Council does have 890 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:56,160 the ability to request another public hearing should they desire okay thank 891 01:07:55,319 --> 01:08:00,039 you okay and I believe Drew Mr Hinman 892 01:07:57,799 --> 01:08:04,400 wanteded to hop in yeah um thank you Deputy Mayor Nel I just wanted to share 893 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:09,119 uh with Council and pick up on some of the comments that the mayor was saying I 894 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:15,440 think uh land use concept number two is in direct response to the feedback that 895 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:18,960 came at the uh public hearing I think uh the community spoke indicated the 896 01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:24,279 importance of this Wetland and that space in 897 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:28,159 particular um and wish to retain that so in terms of the developer responding and 898 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:32,560 why one of the additional reasons we're bringing this before Council and 899 01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:39,679 providing this in this form is Council needs to understand if the um applicant 900 01:08:36,679 --> 01:08:43,920 had decided to not proceed with land use concept 2 they could have proceeded to 901 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:49,239 they have a stripping and Grading application in right now they could have 902 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:54,799 proceeded with that stripping and Grading application and began working on 903 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:58,799 that property we have residents who are very uh passionate about their 904 01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:03,679 communities came to an open house or to a public hearing heard about the 905 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:08,040 potential of losing a wetland spoke voice their concerns administration's 906 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:15,199 very feels it's very important to bring this information forward so if that did 907 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:18,839 occur that um uh equipment was going out on site the residents in that Community 908 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:22,640 had a clear understanding of what was going to happen on that property and 909 01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:26,239 didn't feel like oh okay now we're losing the Wetland I thought we had 910 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:32,679 spoken so hopefully provides a little bit of context of why this is here and 911 01:09:28,839 --> 01:09:38,799 the manner in which it is here again um there are uh some important decisions uh 912 01:09:35,799 --> 01:09:42,239 that this will come back at a uh future uh council meeting for second and third 913 01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:47,679 reading but we felt it was important to have this discussion and get council's 914 01:09:44,759 --> 01:09:51,560 feedback okay thank you uh councelor Wilson thank you those those comments 915 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,080 around the table really help formulate what what I'm thinking and that's that 916 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:59,880 if there is a way to get to another public hearing I think that would be 917 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:04,199 very useful to me um from My Lens concept one is the preferred outcome 918 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:08,239 here if I if I were a neighbor living there I don't live far from there anyway 919 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:12,120 as a Cochran resident concept one seems to be the preferred one to me but I 920 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:17,000 heard loud and clear from the gallery that um they want they didn't want that 921 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,880 um what I'm worried about is that that Gallery didn't understand the 922 01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:24,159 consequences before them um and with everything laid out on the table here I 923 01:10:22,199 --> 01:10:28,120 would love to hear from people again which of these options they would like 924 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:32,640 because to me one seems Superior and that's the one we're not choosing so um 925 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:37,000 if there's a way to get to a public hearing I just heard that potentially 926 01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:42,800 there would be if we uh went with land use concept too I think that's the way I 927 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:49,840 would like to go um would like to hear what others have to say about that 928 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:54,719 opinion um councelor fedo uh through Mr D Mr kazinski um I just uh wanted to 929 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:59,719 point out a couple things yes I realized that um obviously the developer could 930 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:03,280 just go through and proceed um but keep in mind that a lot of people that have 931 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:09,480 purchased homes in the Willows would have already know what to expect um when 932 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:15,239 they purchase back in 2018 2014 a lot of them already knew the plan right then 933 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:18,480 the plan has shifted to concept one um so then all of a sudden a bunch of 934 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,440 people that's where people were upset because what they originally bought into 935 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:26,199 had changed now I believe that we're coming forward with another concept 936 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:30,360 which I think actually if it goes maybe out to the public and to the community 937 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:34,440 you actually might actually receive quite a bit of support and and a little 938 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:39,239 cheering going on that you're actually looking at and protecting uh that 939 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:43,520 Wetland the thing that I have a problem with is that just not having any public 940 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:47,280 hearing and we sit around the table and we're making that decision tonight and 941 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:51,560 not allowing those people to come back um that's just that's that's just not 942 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:54,920 good in my opinion um I won't approve anything without a public hearing so 943 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,000 let's please have a public hearing and allow people with the opportunity to 944 01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:00,239 come back and speak share their opinion and you just might be surprised that 945 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,920 it's not going to be negative it actually might be positive but not 946 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,639 allowing them to talk at all I don't think is the right way uh to approach 947 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:10,840 this and if anything you're just going to get a bunch of push back and blowback 948 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:15,000 from the community that once again council is not really hearing the people 949 01:12:12,639 --> 01:12:19,560 that live there and uh that's not how I want to 950 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:22,239 proceed okay councel Reed yeah I just want to pigy back on what council Wilson 951 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:27,080 was saying so if I understood you correctly Council has the authority and 952 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:30,679 it won't contravene any processes or violate any any of our bylaws in terms 953 01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:35,360 of being able to have a second public hearing on on these proposed changes is 954 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,239 that correct uh through the chair based on the conversations we've had 955 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:43,560 internally it's my understanding that no we're not violating any pro processes if 956 01:12:40,639 --> 01:12:48,760 we request a second Public Act yeah I would support uh that request I know we 957 01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:51,320 can't vote tonight but if it were to if Administration is looking for feedback I 958 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,639 think that there is some kind of consensus that that that might be the 959 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:59,239 way to go forward in terms of being able to hear further from our residents given 960 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:02,280 what they now know or what we now know and they will then have available to 961 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:06,000 them as in a way of additional information uh through the chair Council 962 01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:10,080 read I could add I think the uh for council's benefit one thing to keep in 963 01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:16,400 mind with this is that the site during the in the area structure plan was also 964 01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:20,920 zoned for uh residential mixed use or mixed dwelling development which in the 965 01:13:18,639 --> 01:13:24,960 multi-use development in the previous uh land use bylaw was the highest density 966 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:29,040 Zoning for the site so there would have been that information available at the 967 01:13:26,639 --> 01:13:33,120 time of purchase by the residents that the site was always uh intended for 968 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:38,760 highdensity development which these land uses are 969 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:43,120 below I would feel it's important to identify okay thanks for proving that 970 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:47,920 information any further comments from Council anything else from 971 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:52,199 Administration anything else from our presenters okay great thank you very 972 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:56,159 much do you have everything you need from us I guess is my last question to 973 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,679 you uh through the chair I I believe we have the information that we need to 974 01:13:57,159 --> 01:14:01,520 proceed and we'll have to take this away have some discussions with the applicant 975 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:05,600 on how they'd like to proceed with the application okay thank you thank you 976 01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:08,719 okay next up on the agenda we've been here for an hour and 15 minutes does 977 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:16,080 anybody need a quick watch we're going to take uh six minutes come back 978 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:16,080 7:20 I just like round numbers 979 01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:41,880 well my computer's clock is faster than that clock in here so we may as well not 980 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:47,639 sit around in awkward silence um let's get back to it our next agenda item is 981 01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:53,120 community growth uh Mark kin krinski is going to be giving us a presentation and 982 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,120 introducing a few other people as 983 01:14:53,760 --> 01:15:00,080 well good good evening again uh Deputy Mayor and 984 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,639 members of council thank you for having me and the rest of my management team 985 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:08,840 here for the presentation of community growth 2024 midye report I'm joined 986 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:12,239 today by the community growth leadership team representing the respective 987 01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:17,440 departments Justin parin manager of safety codes Robel Clair manager of 988 01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:21,360 planning services and Nicole Hannah the recently recruited manager of Economic 989 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:25,320 Development before I dive into the midyear report I want to ask you to 990 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:29,760 please join me in welcoming Nicole uh as the new manager within uh Community 991 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,520 growth of Economic Development Nicole is a born and raised Alberton whose first 992 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:37,040 job was working on a local Ranch uh this experience solidified Cochran as a 993 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:41,440 special Community for Nicole as she pursued her career and life Ambitions in 994 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,719 addition to her Grassroots Western Heritage experience Nicole has 995 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:48,080 significant municipal government Economic Development and Business 996 01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:52,440 Development experience they will be invaluable in helping nurture grow and 997 01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:57,480 evolve Cochran's economic potential now and into the future most recently Nicole 998 01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:01,000 was employed as a business strategist at the City of Calgary and before that as 999 01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:05,280 an instructor at Sate where she developed Implement managed and 1000 01:16:02,639 --> 01:16:09,520 sustained an Innovative and experiential learning opportunity for the faculty of 1001 01:16:07,159 --> 01:16:13,320 hospitality and trism management academic academically Nicole has a 1002 01:16:11,719 --> 01:16:16,639 masters of food and resource economics from the University of British Columbia 1003 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,120 a bachelor of Economics from the University of Alberta and an 1004 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:23,520 architecture and building science diploma from 1005 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:30,560 Sate welcome Nicole so as you're well aware Community 1006 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:34,159 growth has three departments within it planning Services Economic Development 1007 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:40,480 and safety codes for 2024 to 2026 Community growth 1008 01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:45,800 uh established three primary objectives uh in the 2024 to 2026 budget process 1009 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,360 those were in Vision coch in 2050 to ensure that in Vision coch in 2050 our 1010 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:53,400 Municipal development plan is in alignment with council's strategic plan 1011 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:57,560 and continues to advance on schedule and on budget 1012 01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,639 uh this will provide the community with the benefit of a structured and 1013 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:04,360 sustainable plan for growth and ensure the community's vision is realized the 1014 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,120 second objective was to support and Foster Innovation and Entrepreneurship 1015 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:11,800 in Cochran with the Cochran station incubator program and other initiatives 1016 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:16,080 such as Smart Start that help entrepreneurs and local businesses 1017 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:20,760 Thrive innovate and contribute to posit positively to our community's economic 1018 01:17:18,719 --> 01:17:24,040 growth the third objective was to implement risk mitigation strategies and 1019 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:28,280 resourcing plans to ensure organizational RIS resiliency and 1020 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:32,679 business continuity and to maintain an Advan efficient and effective service 1021 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:37,199 levels that can consistently be relied upon by our partners in the development 1022 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:42,280 community and citizens of Cochran all these objectives are either in progress 1023 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:45,679 or on schedule for completion and uh or complete which you uh will hear more 1024 01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:50,239 about from each of my managers in the respective departments in this mid in 1025 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,320 this midyear report for their areas please join me in welcoming Rob O Clair 1026 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:57,280 manager of planing Services who will walk you through the mid year report for 1027 01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:01,360 planning services and uh we'll do questions for each component at the end 1028 01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,360 thank 1029 01:18:02,730 --> 01:18:09,719 [Music] you thank you Mark good evening Deputy 1030 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:13,040 Mayor and Council my name is Rob O Clair and I am the manager of planning 1031 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:18,280 services and I'm pleased to be here tonight to share my midyear RBA 1032 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:24,639 information with you 2024 has been a busy year for 1033 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:29,960 planning um as of the end of June we have received 137 development permit 1034 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:35,040 applications and are on track to complete approximately 270 uh 1035 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:41,920 development permits by the end of the year this is a 150% increase from 1036 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:46,800 2023 we have seen significant increase in secondary Suites which are projecting 1037 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:52,320 or which are projected to increase as the year progresses we are ant 1038 01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:58,080 anticipating over 100 Suite applications we have also completed 3 47 1039 01:18:55,719 --> 01:19:02,239 certificate of compliance applications and anticipate completing appr 1040 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:08,440 approximately 700 increasing the amount of compliance applications seen in 1041 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:14,040 2023 at midyear 2024 we have already Sur surpassed the number of council reports 1042 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:19,679 from 2023 we are uh on track to bring approximately 100 reports to council by 1043 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:25,080 Year's end this is the third year of increased reports to 1044 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:28,920 council all this work has been completed by a total of nine staff which is a 1045 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:33,400 decrease in Staffing levels from the previous two 1046 01:19:31,159 --> 01:19:37,440 years the municipal government act dictates the allowable time that a 1047 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:42,360 Development Authority must one deem an application complete which is 20 days 1048 01:19:40,199 --> 01:19:47,719 and two provide a decision back to the applicant which is 60 days planning 1049 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:51,920 Services uses this criteria to track how well we do against these 1050 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:56,159 timelines as of midye we are hitting our Targets on approximately 72% of our 1051 01:19:54,239 --> 01:20:00,880 applications for both deem complete and date of 1052 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:05,560 decision this speaks to the influx of work within the planning Services as as 1053 01:20:03,719 --> 01:20:10,679 I stated in the previous slide as well as the reduction of resources that we 1054 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:16,040 have seen in the previous two years we have seen 11 subdivision 1055 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:18,760 applications which is already 79% of the amount we saw in 1056 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:26,920 2023 uh these comprise of 440 new residential lots and two commercial Lots 1057 01:20:25,719 --> 01:20:30,280 additionally we have seen the advancement of 460 dwelling units 1058 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:34,080 through multif family and secondary Suite development permit 1059 01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:38,440 applications this year we are forecasting the advancement of 1060 01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:43,040 approximately 1,800 dwelling units through the subdivision development and 1061 01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:47,880 permit phases of the development Continuum these are now ready to or 1062 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:51,960 ready for the Final Phase of development in the development Continuum which is 1063 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:57,000 building permits just some accomplishments in 1064 01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:02,639 2024 we have completed the rolling Trails Area Redevelopment plan which was 1065 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:07,480 Cochran's first ever ARP submission to cmrb we we have completed the growth 1066 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:12,199 study which will be presented at coun uh to Council in 1067 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:17,480 Q4 we have completed the phase two of Engagement and launched the draft plan 1068 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:21,840 for Envision Cochran 2050 the final draft will be coming to council later 1069 01:21:19,639 --> 01:21:21,840 this 1070 01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:29,480 year we completed the First Street Road closure with con with the consolidation 1071 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:35,159 plan being completed or anticipated to be completed by Q4 we have onboarded uh 1072 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:41,080 myself the new manager of planning services and created more structure and 1073 01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:41,080 better alignment through our planning 1074 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:48,159 process our outdated technology has created significant impacts on our 1075 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:53,520 application timelines as well as our deem complete and decision date uh 1076 01:21:50,639 --> 01:21:58,360 compliance rates additionally the reduction in our staff is contributing 1077 01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:02,600 towards business continuity employee satisfaction and customer service 1078 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,600 related 1079 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:09,199 risks looking at next steps we are looking into Technology Solutions which 1080 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:14,199 will ultimately help application timelines introducing more structure to 1081 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:17,480 our processes to increase consistency and 1082 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:22,080 productivity uh looking at succession planning and investments into continuous 1083 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:29,120 education thank you that concludes my portion of the presentation I will now 1084 01:22:26,639 --> 01:22:33,080 hand it over to Nicole H to go through her portion of the presentation thank 1085 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:44,280 you thank you rob Council excellent to meet you my name is Nicole hen uh I the 1086 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:48,639 new manager of Economic Development I'm excited to be working back here in 1087 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:52,880 Cochran Economic Development supports entrepreneurship innovation in order to 1088 01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:57,280 contribute to a Vibrant Community here in Cochran the the department offers 1089 01:22:55,440 --> 01:23:01,239 Support Services to existing local businesses while also broadening 1090 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:05,840 Cochran's sustainable economic growth through business retention investment 1091 01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:08,199 attraction tourism development and Regional 1092 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:18,239 collaboration how much this year as of July 24th 2,230 business business 1093 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:25,080 licenses have been approved this is an increase of 58 more than 2023 is total 1094 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:29,199 non-residential licenses have the strong strongest growth at 1095 01:23:26,679 --> 01:23:35,800 5.4% increasing year-over-year business licenses are projected to set a 1096 01:23:31,719 --> 01:23:40,800 record in 2024 with a 5 per increase and again still continued growth overall 1097 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:45,800 we've seen a 14% increase in total licenses since 2020 which is 1098 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,920 approximately 281 additional business licenses that have been 1099 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,000 added Cochran has collaborated with economic development partner innovate 1100 01:23:54,120 --> 01:24:01,239 cochr to deliver a $950,000 prairie scan Grant 1101 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:05,800 with funding over the next 3 years along with the town's contribution 30 1102 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:10,080 different mentors coaches and experts from the community have contributed to 1103 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:15,760 programs with over 260 hours of volunteer time programming has continued 1104 01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:22,400 to advance in the incubator establishing roundt founder roundtables five weekly 1105 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,400 expert sessions and one-on 1106 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:30,760 ones to date 21 organizations have participated in business and Innovation 1107 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:35,159 programs funded or supported by the town of Cochran Cochran business incubator 1108 01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:40,360 currently has eight companies in Residence and our Smart Start program 1109 01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:43,840 which was launched in the spring will graduate all seven participants this 1110 01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:48,440 fall in the upcoming October the community Innovation 1111 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:53,000 ecosystem successfully trained six participants in partnership with Unbound 1112 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:58,880 thinking and innovate Cochran and the town itself three of eight companies 1113 01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:02,880 have had their first Revenue 62% of those in the incubator currently had 1114 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:07,119 Revenue prior to entering to the program and 25% of those companies have hired 1115 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,119 their first 1116 01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:15,520 employee these are definitely not my accomplishments but they will be uh 1117 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:19,440 Community growth has filled the vacant position of manager of Economic 1118 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:23,280 Development and work has already started on advancing an updated Economic 1119 01:25:21,239 --> 01:25:26,800 Development strategy which includes opportunities to explore or 1120 01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:31,840 postsecondary Partnerships within Cochran this expands on The Bold 1121 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:36,360 workshops and xyc design presentation on hidden density from the previous year 1122 01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:40,920 Economic Development has ensured sustained momentum for critical Economic 1123 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:44,760 Development initiatives despite significant employee 1124 01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:48,840 turnover we have decreased safety incidences since the integration of 1125 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:53,679 Station security as part of the short-term station sustainment plan we 1126 01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:57,159 will be meeting later this month to kind of continue on with this 1127 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:05,159 planning emerging risks we have ongoing challenges with business continuity and 1128 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:09,880 resourcing with the transfer of resources from Economic Development to 1129 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:14,840 customer service admin along with the integration of the visitor information 1130 01:26:11,639 --> 01:26:19,679 system center and the responsibilities as now part of our short-term station 1131 01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:24,400 sustainment plan additionally we've identifi identified some challenges in 1132 01:26:21,639 --> 01:26:28,360 data collection and process Improvement with limited Staffing Resources 1133 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:32,719 currently one full-time staff member handles all of our business licenses for 1134 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,719 the 1135 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:41,600 town next steps economic development in collaboration with Cochran tourism will 1136 01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:46,639 create a joint tourism strategy with an organizational Focus together we will 1137 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:51,199 explore current state allowing us to accurately identify the most effective 1138 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:55,920 policies and actions for bringing up the advancement of Cochran tourism and 1139 01:26:53,600 --> 01:27:00,440 economic development mment we are working closely with innovate Cochran to 1140 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:05,440 meet all reporting criteria for our Prairie scan Grant and we have a project 1141 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:09,320 Charter in place for the incubator leading up to our first reporting 1142 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:14,400 deadline in January of 2025 recommendations for the creation of 1143 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:18,920 a Cochran station operation and programming committee which will ensure 1144 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:24,639 a greater alignment and encourage ongoing corporate collaboration will 1145 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:29,560 provide Clarity and assigned resources and responsibilities to the correct 1146 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:34,520 subject matter expertise to maintain operate and sustain the station 1147 01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:39,000 programs as part of our short-term station sustainment plan increasing 1148 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:43,040 workspaces at the station is underway with an intent to bolster activity uh 1149 01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:48,080 for the downtown location that is it for me up next is 1150 01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:57,600 Justin thank you Nicole good evening Deputy Mayor and council members uh my 1151 01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:02,159 name is Justin parin and I'm the manager of the safety codes area the town of 1152 01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:06,199 Cochran is an accredited municipality under the safety codes Council of 1153 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:10,440 Alberta the safety codes leg legislation provides us the ability to employ safety 1154 01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:14,800 codes officers permit issures to administer the provincially adopted 1155 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:19,480 codes and standards here in Alberta we issue permits and inspect work to ensure 1156 01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:23,639 Code Compliance is met for new construction and Renovations within the 1157 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:28,840 Cochran's Municipal boundaries both residential and non-residential 1158 01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:32,639 with the continued growth within the town permits and inspections are 1159 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:36,280 trending to exceed last year's totals and overall construction value 1160 01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:41,679 investment in the community is expected to be an all-time high continued support 1161 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:46,440 for capacity in our area helps our team continue to provide our legislative 1162 01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:46,440 services to the 1163 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:53,679 community we have maintained our quality management plan or qmp compliance Target 1164 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:57,119 for permit issuance and inspection schedule 1165 01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:01,800 uh targets supported by continued process Improvement efficiencies and 1166 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,800 Staffing 1167 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:08,719 capacities continued investment in our business unit has reduced our Reliance 1168 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:12,040 on contract Service all while trending towards record sending perent Revenue 1169 01:29:10,679 --> 01:29:14,920 due to the amount of construction investment within the 1170 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:25,080 community within the first half of 2024 we have reduced our contract Service 1171 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:29,520 cost completed multi successful recruitments maintained our qmp 1172 01:29:27,239 --> 01:29:33,800 compliance Target supported our employees continuing education goals and 1173 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:38,119 focused on customer service and communication Improvement through 1174 01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:38,119 ongoing website 1175 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:46,280 improvements business continuity Still Remains as a risk and code 1176 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,280 non-compliances are trending 1177 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:53,360 upwards as we look ahead we are focusing on succession planning and continuous 1178 01:29:51,719 --> 01:29:57,480 education initiatives for staff development and and career growth 1179 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:02,360 looking into ways to that allow us to utilize our permitting software to Aid 1180 01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:06,920 other business units and focus on a code requirement education initiative to 1181 01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:11,040 support owners contractors understanding of provincial code 1182 01:30:08,679 --> 01:30:14,920 requirements um thank you for your time I'll pass this back to mark for final 1183 01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:24,119 thoughts thank you so uh all these are all these objectives together so cochr 1184 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:27,360 continues to be a community of choice uh for investment by the development 1185 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:31,560 Community as evidenced by the record setting volume and pace of activity in 1186 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:34,920 Cochran over the first half of this year as you have heard we are on Pace to for 1187 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:38,360 a record setting year for development in Cochran uh Community growth is 1188 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:42,119 projecting new records for development permits building permits inspections 1189 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:46,719 reports to council and annual construction value which is exceeded 220 1190 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:50,480 Million by midye and projected to exceed 300 million by the end of the year we're 1191 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,199 also maintaining positive momentum at the station expansion of support for 1192 01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:57,719 entrepreneurship and innovation with the recent prair can grant we received 1193 01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:03,040 completion of the inaugural Community Innovation ecosystem program and 1194 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:08,320 initiative initiation of smart start looking forward uh to the 1195 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:13,440 remainder of 2024 and into 2025 Community growth will be focusing on the 1196 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:18,719 following areas uh and the and for the remainder 2024 and the 2025 2027 budget 1197 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:21,760 exercise which is which is looking for additional resources exploring 1198 01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:27,320 Technology Solutions and process improvements investigating opportunity 1199 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:31,600 ities uh to generate Revenue as well as advancing plans and strategies that 1200 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:36,239 align with vision C in 2050 and improve customer service and service lines with 1201 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:40,400 that I'm happy to answer any questions that you may 1202 01:31:37,639 --> 01:31:42,920 have all right I believe Council Reed was first of the 1203 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:50,639 buch yeah I had a a comment uh a question of clarity and then a question 1204 01:31:48,679 --> 01:31:54,239 itself so I'm really pleased to hear what I heard about the investment 1205 01:31:52,119 --> 01:31:58,639 Council made in terms of the safety area that that sounds uh that it's trending 1206 01:31:56,199 --> 01:32:03,320 in the right direction and I'm just looking for uh Clarity around I'm 1207 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:08,080 uncertain if we were if we were just pitched a pre-budget request for staff 1208 01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:12,400 and technology or if it's just a an are we experiencing a challenge in terms of 1209 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:16,719 finding and hiring good people and not having enough time to effectively assess 1210 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:22,639 a technology that is already currently budgeted so are we looking is this a 1211 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:25,880 pre-budget request is that that we're hearing the first pitch of 1212 01:32:24,440 --> 01:32:29,600 uh through the chair I I wouldn't say a pre-budget request but it is a just a 1213 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:36,159 heads up of what community growth is looking for uh moving forward correct 1214 01:32:33,119 --> 01:32:40,639 okay um and then with the economic development and the incubation Center uh 1215 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:45,199 what were the measures of success Beyond just graduation what what 1216 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:50,400 are the measures of success for the incubation Center uh through the chair 1217 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:55,320 uh councilor read some of the measures for success as defined by pris scan are 1218 01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:59,480 a minimum number number of uh science Technology and Engineering and math 1219 01:32:57,239 --> 01:33:04,920 positions created as well as a number of hqp so high quality professional 1220 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:09,119 positions uh created through the through the program uh so what we're working on 1221 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:13,320 right now is the completion of the project chart as'll identify how we'll 1222 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:18,719 work with our other partners to deliver the sueda programs of uh Community 1223 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:23,239 Innovation ecosystem the incubator and Smart Start to deliver uh on those 1224 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,800 positions I'm wondering if it's possible to get a one page document just indicate 1225 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:30,520 what the measures of success are and what they were with this graduating 1226 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:33,560 class that would be I would appreciate that I think that might be worthwhile in 1227 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:38,280 terms of our community given the investment that council's made on that 1228 01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:42,119 in that invest uh incubator Center uh through the chair we'd be happy to 1229 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:48,520 prepare something for thank you okay councelor foro uh through Mr 1230 01:33:45,159 --> 01:33:52,119 jerich to Mr krinski um I think that there was a comment and it says in here 1231 01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:56,719 that there was a decrease of Staff uh from the past two years I guess I'm just 1232 01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:59,679 curious are people moving on for other opportunities or is there a reason for 1233 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:03,119 that decrease I guess I'm a little surprised that this is kind of the the 1234 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,560 first time that council's being made aware especially when we know how busy 1235 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:12,440 the planning department actually is uh through the chair uh councelor 1236 01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:16,800 foro uh the resources reallocated to an area of Greater impact uh within the 1237 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:20,719 organization and uh was uh something that was done in discussion with myself 1238 01:34:18,440 --> 01:34:24,800 and understanding of the opportunity to address a greater need and then I know 1239 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:29,239 that that I was brought up about licensing that I believe there's only 1240 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:32,679 one person doing licensing but um and I and I'm assuming that's at the station 1241 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:36,040 that there's one person doing licensing at the station is that kind of where it 1242 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:40,080 was related to uh through the chair Council fedo yes we have uh one resource 1243 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:43,000 uh currently assigned to business licensing because I do know that there 1244 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:47,400 was some staff down there but there was some shifting of Staff some people left 1245 01:34:45,159 --> 01:34:50,679 I'm just curious as to and that was quite a while ago a few months ago so 1246 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:54,800 I'm just curious as to why we don't have other people down there quite yet to be 1247 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:58,960 able to help out because obviously some people it's not like they they have 1248 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:02,040 budgeted money for their jobs right so is it the fact that we just haven't been 1249 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:05,000 able to find Qualified staff or I'm just trying to get a handle on what's 1250 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:09,560 happening with the Staffing comp component yeah uh through the chair uh 1251 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:13,920 the comment was specific to uh the Staffing within Community growth and uh 1252 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:18,280 Economic Development so the previous resources uh in economic development 1253 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:22,560 that were re allocated were not responsible for business licensing uh 1254 01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:26,040 they had primarily visitor information center functions which have actually 1255 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:29,719 been transferred to another group in customer service and admin who is 1256 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,960 helping support us by taking on those functions um as well as trying to help 1257 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:38,400 support them with their business continuity as well by ensuring we have a 1258 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:41,880 sufficient Staffing level in both areas okay and I was kind of uh similar to 1259 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:46,159 councilor Reed I was just kind of curious what the budget asked was kind 1260 01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:50,960 of looking like and also whether or not you believe um safety codes needs to 1261 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:55,040 have additional resources I I look at it this way um wearing a completely 1262 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:58,520 different hat that I have uh there there's some interesting things going on 1263 01:35:56,639 --> 01:36:02,600 when it comes to development right now and I do believe that it's it's hard to 1264 01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:07,040 keep up with all the stuff going on when you have a limited amount of people 1265 01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:10,520 doing checks and balances and and that to me becomes a little bit scary because 1266 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:14,920 once things are built you're not taking them down so I'm just curious from the 1267 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:19,119 group of view is it do you need more people on the planning side do you need 1268 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:23,719 more people on the Safety Code side um or what kind of is that balance um are 1269 01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:27,119 you kind of thinking yeah through the ch councelor FCO uh I think one of the 1270 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:31,360 messages we're hoping to convey is the support from Council uh for safety codes 1271 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:35,119 and the work of our partners and administration and helping us develop a 1272 01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:41,480 resourcing plan has had a positive impact um on their ability to uh handle 1273 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:45,440 a significant increase in volume uh and we do appreciate that uh from all 1274 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:48,960 participants uh on the planning side of course we are seeing significant 1275 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:53,639 increases in volume which also comes with increases the complexity uh as the 1276 01:36:51,239 --> 01:36:58,080 municipality grows over time and uh additional resources definitely help us 1277 01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:03,880 uh achieve a higher quality uh of development for uh for the municipality 1278 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:08,960 while maintaining uh uh alignment with expectations of members of the community 1279 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:11,360 as including the development community and if and if you have challenges in the 1280 01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:14,880 planning department have you thought about just like kind of slowing down I I 1281 01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:18,560 know that that's not exactly an easy thing to be able to go to people because 1282 01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:23,159 then you make somebody else angry within the process but I'm I'm just curious is 1283 01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:27,520 there you know that that thought to just take take a deep breath pause and just 1284 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:30,679 I'm not saying cancel anything but just take a deep breath and maybe slow things 1285 01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:33,159 down so that we're not rushing because when you're rushing and everything's 1286 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:37,920 getting done all at once I go back to what I said before the end product is uh 1287 01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:42,480 what ends up suffering right so uh through the chair Council Deco I 1288 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:46,239 think uh in my experience uh over the past year I think we've tried to balance 1289 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:49,520 uh ensuring that we meet the expectations of the development 1290 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:53,599 Community as well as particularly our MGA uh requirements for for timelines 1291 01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:57,280 that we're constantly endeavoring to achieve while also making sure we 1292 01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:01,960 prioritize uh mental health and well-being um of our resources and take 1293 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:06,880 a long-term business continuity look to ensure that we are not uh either 1294 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:12,280 jeopardizing the quality uh of the work that we do uh or uh the ability for us 1295 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:17,520 to maintain continuity of the service levels that have been established 1296 01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:20,960 previously so I believe we're are taking a balanced approach okay thank you 1297 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:27,719 that's all the questions that I have for now coun f 1298 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:32,920 um yeah thank you um very much I wanted to say first off uh kudos to yourself 1299 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:38,119 and to your team um what I see throughout your report here is just 1300 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:41,760 increase in efficiency and improve Service delivery to uh our residents so 1301 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,239 thank you very much uh to you and your team and all your team members for the 1302 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,880 great work it's much appreciated um and while I can appreciate counc goes I was 1303 01:38:48,679 --> 01:38:54,920 like let's make sure we're doing it right I know there are a lot of 1304 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:58,920 pressures on you um to make sure you are delivering these services in as timely 1305 01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:02,760 manner as possible so you know any delay in getting a housing permit affects 1306 01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:06,400 somebody's ability to move in and find a new home affects the business that 1307 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:11,520 surrounds that those type of things so um yeah so first of all Kudos uh to that 1308 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,800 um a lot of information presented there and I was kind of tempted to put a break 1309 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:19,360 on after each of your presenters so I could uh drill down um but we didn't so 1310 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:24,159 we'll have to see how many of my notes I could go back to if that's all 1311 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:29,679 right what I did here overall um was uh your challenges which I I 1312 01:39:27,639 --> 01:39:33,639 appreciate you identifying and and as our colleagues have identified is it a 1313 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:38,800 is it a pre-budget Lobby in which case well done um but you'd identified the 1314 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:43,159 business uh continuity uh as a challenge across the board I feel and so what is 1315 01:39:41,159 --> 01:39:47,400 that business continuity is that just a staff turnover or what is that actually 1316 01:39:44,599 --> 01:39:51,920 speaking to uh through the chair uh counselor mcfaden I think there are a a 1317 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:57,080 couple of opportunities uh we currently have some fairly outdated software that 1318 01:39:54,040 --> 01:40:01,960 we uh manage our planning Services Department through so it's not just uh 1319 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:06,679 Staffing levels but of course uh additional staff allows us to succession 1320 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:11,960 plan and ensure that we have additional uh backup and support for 1321 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:18,159 unforeseen uh absences whether that be leave or um moving off from the 1322 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:22,760 organization so which do have impacts uh of course okay on maintaining levels 1323 01:40:20,599 --> 01:40:25,080 sorry okay and so when I did hear that that 1324 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:29,000 if I understood the presentation correctly that currently understaff in 1325 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:34,679 both planning and economic uh development um not in safety codes but 1326 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:38,719 what is your strategy for understaffed and so and I not sure if I heard in your 1327 01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:44,480 presentation that those resources have been allocated elsewhere in the res in 1328 01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:49,119 the in the organization but did I hear that correctly that we've been taking 1329 01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:53,000 for your team to put those resources to other parts of the organization or are 1330 01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:57,719 those resources being reallocated within your Department uh through the chair I 1331 01:40:55,480 --> 01:41:01,760 wouldn't say per per se taking as I was involved in all of those conversations 1332 01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:05,320 but have been reallocated to areas uh of Greater need I I would also draw 1333 01:41:03,639 --> 01:41:10,440 attention to us having a unique opportunity with uh two new members of 1334 01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:13,800 uh coch Administration with the manager of planning services and a manager of 1335 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:18,159 Economic Development so I believe it's important to involve them in that uh 1336 01:41:16,199 --> 01:41:22,239 resourcing plan once they have an opportunity to identify uh what the 1337 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:26,480 greatest challenges are and how best to overcome them to make sure that is in 1338 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:30,920 alignment with uh with their style of management and approach so um there is 1339 01:41:29,599 --> 01:41:35,480 of course a need and I think we've dealt with challenges this year with a couple 1340 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:38,560 of absences in our management team but uh I don't believe that we've put 1341 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:41,920 ourselves at a critical level the Highlight is more the plan that we've 1342 01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:46,679 put in place I think with safety codes has been effective and is yielding very 1343 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:50,960 positive uh results which we are Midway through implementation of uh of that 1344 01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:55,599 plan uh which did request additional resources in future years as well so 1345 01:41:53,679 --> 01:42:00,360 it's important for me in your in your strategy that as your um your staff is 1346 01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:04,679 delivering we're seeing at the numbers here in your report um that part of your 1347 01:42:03,159 --> 01:42:10,440 HR strategy also ensures that we're not burning good people out um and so I'd 1348 01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:16,679 like to make sure that I see these great faces year after year and not like here 1349 01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:21,280 and G on um so then the other piece I saw and I think you spoke a little bit 1350 01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:24,840 to it was around uh you've got new managers coming on you want to give them 1351 01:42:22,679 --> 01:42:30,599 some space to kind of develop their own strategies but has there been a change 1352 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:34,840 in service level Focus around um at the station around uh supporting the tourism 1353 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:38,560 and the information booth I know I've got I received a lot of comments about 1354 01:42:36,679 --> 01:42:42,480 that and that it is a missed resource in our community um can you talk to me 1355 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:47,199 about what your strategy is there yeah through the chair uh Council mcfaden uh 1356 01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:50,440 in the short-term sustainment plan we believe that we actually were able to 1357 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:56,000 provide a more sustainable level of service by the transfer of resources to 1358 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:59,960 area which provided more consistent um service levels uh we were sta very lean 1359 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:06,320 historically with the visitor information center uh to the point where 1360 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:12,520 it was difficult if uh if possible uh to provide coverage for um for vacations 1361 01:43:09,719 --> 01:43:16,440 and leaves of absences this has provided uh more sustainability I believe in in 1362 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:20,360 both teams uh in terms of the moving forward plan for cckr and tourism we're 1363 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:23,960 actually looking to be uh develop a strategy that's more comprehensive 1364 01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:27,760 working with all Partners in the the uh Cochran Community not just Cochran 1365 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:33,239 tourism but also see our partners with Cochran Chamber of Commerce and Council 1366 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:36,440 Administration to develop a long-term uh Cochran tourism strategy over the course 1367 01:43:35,599 --> 01:43:43,360 of 2025 we'll be looking to uh Charter um 1368 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:47,159 the work to start working with them and uh put some pend of paper working with 1369 01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:50,560 all participants to develop a long-term plan that will frame some of the 1370 01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:54,560 priorities but in the a term there have already been uh initial conversations 1371 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:58,239 with myself and uh the executive director of CAU and tourism as well as 1372 01:43:56,599 --> 01:44:02,040 the new manager of Economic Development who stepped in and uh uh started 1373 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:06,080 fostering a positive working relationship with that organization as 1374 01:44:03,639 --> 01:44:10,400 well okay uh from My Lens I think it is really important that we find a way to 1375 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:14,199 uh have that face face engagement for the tourism visitor information all 1376 01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:17,440 those pieces um I think that's a party for me and I think I've certainly been 1377 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:20,440 hearing that it's missed and certainly folks have identified the inconsistency 1378 01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:24,440 that was going through in your Staffing challenges but for my side that is a 1379 01:44:22,679 --> 01:44:29,199 priority to make sure we are having that face Toof face engagement um at the 1380 01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:33,480 station um I think my last question for now and I do appreciate all your 1381 01:44:30,599 --> 01:44:39,520 responses in regards to the is it the Prairie can grant that's where the chair 1382 01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:43,639 Council make F Prairie's can right that's what I meant to say thanks for 1383 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:49,840 that um prairies can grant of just under a million bucks is that the one that was 1384 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:55,000 uh in partnership with um innovate Cochran uh the council in mcf that is 1385 01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:59,199 correct okay all righty um yeah and again I just wanted to say I really 1386 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:02,880 appreciate um these reports and the details in your metrics uh I really 1387 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:07,719 appreciate being able to see the service levels there um the only thing I think I 1388 01:45:06,119 --> 01:45:12,760 know it's buried in here and you you did capture it in your presentation but um 1389 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:18,599 it might just be me but it would be great to see both um I see these reports 1390 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:23,560 as reporting on your core workor but if there could be maybe a different report 1391 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:27,719 that also highlighted um your lishments against supporting uh council's 1392 01:45:25,639 --> 01:45:32,719 priorities if that makes sense all right thank you for your time 1393 01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:35,880 and again Kudos uh to you and your team I hope everybody's proud of the work 1394 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:41,840 they do for coner thank you okay councelor clars thanks for all 1395 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:47,560 the information the updates it's a very busy area important and um so much 1396 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:52,199 growth and so many changes to deal with that um we have a lot of questions 1397 01:45:49,679 --> 01:45:56,840 tonight I was really uh happy to hear about the increase s the applications 1398 01:45:54,080 --> 01:46:01,159 for secondary Suites so I think that's one solution to affordable housing and 1399 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:04,840 um people are seeing it in they're following through but I'm wondering what 1400 01:46:02,679 --> 01:46:11,000 the challenges are and is there any programs available to help people get 1401 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:15,040 educated on how to do that or to um programs to help them make it happen uh 1402 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,840 through the chair Council fathers I'm actually going to ask my manager of 1403 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:23,199 planning services to help out with this one because he see secondary sweets on a 1404 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:26,119 on a very consistent basis and I uh C Planning Commission as well 1405 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:33,760 Rob thank you through the chair to councelor filers um we have 1406 01:46:31,239 --> 01:46:39,360 pre-application processes where anyone can ask questions of the planning team 1407 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:43,280 of specific requirements or um anything to do with the land use bylaw in terms 1408 01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:49,119 of secondary Suite applications so we are absolutely there to coach anyone 1409 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:54,560 through that process I know it can be an extensive process for sure um but uh the 1410 01:46:52,199 --> 01:46:59,080 jobs of the planners are to be there as the point person to guide them through 1411 01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:04,000 that that application process good to hear Do we have any rules about how many 1412 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:08,520 can be per block I can't remember uh through the chair to councelor flowers 1413 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:17,159 we do have uh in the land use bylaw there is um there is a clause uh sorry 1414 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:21,639 it's it's in the land use pyo but doesn't it doesn't actually say a 1415 01:47:19,159 --> 01:47:26,960 specific number it is more of a an Administration uh discretion of of how 1416 01:47:24,719 --> 01:47:32,880 many of what percentage of the block face of of how much of that can be 1417 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:38,920 secondary Suites uh so we do have a me mechanism there I believe the number is 1418 01:47:36,679 --> 01:47:42,480 uh I can't tell you off the top of my head I'd have to look at the land use 1419 01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:47,199 bylaw uh but there is a mechanism for that for sure but uh basically what 1420 01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:50,560 happens in in those situations is we would refer the secondary Suite 1421 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:54,400 applications to the Cochran Planning Commission for their review uh because 1422 01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:59,679 then they become the Development Authority on those on those 1423 01:47:56,480 --> 01:48:05,560 applications good to hear thank you for that um what other question do I have I 1424 01:48:03,159 --> 01:48:11,920 I too was concerned about the um visitor information center such as um Council 1425 01:48:09,159 --> 01:48:15,199 mcfaden was talking about um I've heard things that people aren't are having 1426 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:19,520 trouble getting answers to their questions and that it's not not 1427 01:48:17,159 --> 01:48:24,880 consistent so I too would really like to see a plan in place for improving that 1428 01:48:22,199 --> 01:48:28,520 service and making sure it's adequate uh through the chair of council 1429 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:33,320 flowers we can assure you that we are looking at strengthening that and uh I 1430 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:37,520 do want to give uh kudos to our uh our partners and customer service and admin 1431 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:41,960 who I believe have uh provided uh some great excellent uh customer service and 1432 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:46,199 we to give a little bit of assurance we've uh even been hosting some training 1433 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:50,920 sessions where we provide opportunities for Cochran tourism uh to share uh 1434 01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:55,679 opportunities and about what you can do in Cochran for visitors who are looking 1435 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:59,599 for the face tof face uh interaction however also looking to the Future and 1436 01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:04,639 asking ourselves how best do people want to receive information uh as a visitor 1437 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:08,880 and whether that is face to face and and where the trends are changing so I know 1438 01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:13,560 cochr tourism has a lens on that as well as our manager of Economic Development I 1439 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:18,800 appreciate that people are filling in and I always think face to face is the 1440 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:24,400 best especially someone outside the community um what else um oh and the 1441 01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:27,679 commit comme to assist with the programming at the station I think 1442 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:31,560 that's a really great idea we talked about that way back at the beginning and 1443 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:37,760 I don't think it ever happened but to bring in experts and have other um views 1444 01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:42,840 on the programming I think is excellent I think that was um all that I 1445 01:49:40,679 --> 01:49:47,000 had thank you very much okay um last question for me 1446 01:49:45,639 --> 01:49:50,599 something I brought up with Mr derot earlier but I want to bring up our 1447 01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:54,560 meeting today um with on the topic of growth it's our off-site Levy bylaw is 1448 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:58,119 the thing that's of most concern to me just making sure we're keeping up with a 1449 01:49:55,639 --> 01:50:03,480 plan for our capital and paying for it uh do we know when council's going to 1450 01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:07,119 have an update on updating our offsite Levy bylaw I'm not sure if this team 1451 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,560 would be the appropriate people but the growth topic is the appropriate time to 1452 01:50:08,599 --> 01:50:15,199 bring it up uh through the chair uh the offsite Levy bylaw is being run by a 1453 01:50:13,159 --> 01:50:18,480 partner of mine actually the uh director of engineering and Asset Services so I 1454 01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:23,719 would be remiss to try and comment on their behalf but uh okay perhaps uh Mr 1455 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:28,840 Heyman has a an update or we can provide another one for Council later for the uh 1456 01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:34,119 benefit of council uh we are working on that it'll likely be uh in the first 1457 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:39,320 quarter of uh 2025 you will get the update with the updated values uh again 1458 01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:42,760 there's been a lot of focus uh we work in in partnership with our finance team 1459 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:47,239 and they're working on uh obviously we're all working on budget so uh that's 1460 01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:51,360 the timeline that we're looking for to have those in front of council okay 1461 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:54,800 early in the New Year okay yeah and I just want to bring that up because as 1462 01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:57,520 your your report mentioned tonight we're um growing very very quickly and we need 1463 01:50:56,199 --> 01:51:01,520 to make sure we're planning adequately to pay for Capital to accommodate all 1464 01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:04,920 that growth that's it for me anything else from Council anything else from 1465 01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:10,599 Administration anything else from our pres presenters thank you for your time 1466 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:14,400 okay thank you and that I believe is the close of the public portion of this 1467 01:51:12,079 --> 01:51:19,639 meeting we do have an in camera this evening can I get a motion to on camera 1468 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:27,159 for one of my colleagues coun faten makes the motion all in favor 1469 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,159 and we are in camera