[0:05] It's joining the flesh leeches. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [0:10] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation [0:15] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:21] » Good morning, everyone. [0:27] We'll start in on the agenda and it's to approve the minutes of Monday, June [0:32] 15th, 2026. [0:37] Second. The motion is moved, Barker seconded. [0:42] All in favor, any discussion? Second. All in favor, say aye. [0:46] » Aye. >> Any opposed? Passes 5-0. [0:52] » I'll give that a second and reconsider that after. [0:55] » We have some miscellaneous motions. Uh Looks like the first one we have to [1:03] essentially change uh resolution number [1:08] » Yeah. >> from from last week. [1:11] » Yeah. >> Looks like it should have been [1:14] resolution 2026-979 [1:17] instead of 978. So, I will move to rescind paragraph seven [1:26] in the June 15, 2026 minutes. And the paragraph reads, [1:32] "Peterson moved to approve resolution number 2026-978, [1:38] a resolution of Coffey County, Kansas establishing a reinvestment housing [1:43] incentive district within the county, adopting a plan for the development of [1:48] housing and public facilities in such district, approving a development [1:53] agreement and making certain findings in conjunction therewith. [1:57] 75 reinvestment housing incentive district and Aboudrar seconded motion [2:03] passed. So, I move to rescind. >> I'll second that. [2:09] » Thompson second. Any discussion? [2:12] All in favor say I. >> I. [2:15] » [clears throat] >> Anybody opposed? That passes 5-0. [2:19] And now to get the correct resolution [clears throat] [2:22] number, I will move [2:25] to approve resolution number 2026-979, [2:30] a resolution of Coffey County, Kansas, establishing a reinvestment housing [2:34] incentive district within the county, adopting a plan for the development of [2:38] housing and public facilities in such district, approving a development [2:43] agreement, and making certain findings in conjunction therewith. [2:48] 75 investment housing incentive district. [2:52] » I'll second. >> Okay, so I moved. [2:55] » Okay. >> McCurry seconded. [2:58] Any discussion? All in favor say I. [3:01] » I. >> Anybody opposed? [3:03] That passes [clears throat] 5-0. We'll get that corrected. [3:08] We have a payroll notice. I would entertain a motion to authorize [3:14] and direct the chairman to sign the Coffey County payroll notice for Kayla [3:18] Rhodes, emergency management deputy [3:21] director/radiological officer, step change, [3:26] completion of IPP, wage classification from 60-3 to 60-4, [3:34] wage from $31.14 to $31.94, [3:39] effective June 1, 2026. [3:47] » I'll make the motion. [3:50] » I'll second it. [3:53] Okay, McCreary moved, I will draw second it. [3:57] Any discussion? [4:00] All in favor say I. >> I. [4:02] » Anybody opposed? Passes 5-0. [4:08] » [clears throat] >> We have another payroll notice. [4:13] I would entertain a motion to authorize and direct the chairman to sign the [4:16] Coffee County [clears throat] payroll notice for Todd Hendricks. [4:20] Coffee County Lake Lake Patrol new hire wage classification 10-1 [4:27] wage $16.21 effective June 23rd, 2026. [4:35] » I'll move. >> I'll second. [4:38] » Thompson moved, McCreary seconded. Any discussion? [4:43] All in favor say I. >> I. [4:45] » Anybody opposed? Passes 5-0. Yes. [4:51] Completes the miscellaneous motions. It's 9:05 and [4:55] ready for our first agenda item, Tourism and Visitors Board. [5:01] 2027 budget request. >> All right. Good morning. [5:04] » Good morning. >> Jenny. [5:06] » So, uh just to give you guys a little bit of uh updates what we've been doing [5:10] with the uh Coffee County Tourism and Visitors Board. [5:14] Um our board since I came on last year has [5:18] been uh fairly active. We've been meeting just about quarterly um as per [5:23] their request um to discuss uh [5:28] you know, uses for the transient guest tax fund and other [5:31] um things where the Tourism Board might be uh helpful with our county. [5:36] Um I'll just kind of give you an update on [5:38] the transient guest tax fund. Uh [5:42] since January 1st, 2026, we've had a income from state from the transient [5:49] guest tax fund for of $11,161. [5:54] Um and this year the [5:57] uh tourism and visitors board has approved um funds outgoing of about [6:02] $6,264. [6:05] That leaves us a total in that fund of $52,567. [6:11] So, we have had a little bit of outgoing this year. Um most of that has been um [6:16] the board has approved um some funds for [6:21] um some events that they felt would be bringing in people from outside of the [6:25] county. So, we do have a form now if somebody wants to request some of those [6:29] funds, um they fill that out and then I send that out to the board for approval [6:33] or denial or sometimes they have questions from whoever's asking for the [6:37] funds. So, we go through that process. Um [6:41] but I think it's I think it's been going pretty well. [6:44] Um We did meet [6:47] last month. I'm trying to No, the [6:51] beginning of this month. >> Just a couple weeks. [6:53] » Yes, okay. We met on June 3rd. >> [laughter] [6:55] » My months are just going pretty fast. Um to discuss [7:01] kind of recommendations for expenditures for 2027. [7:05] Um pretty similar to what they suggested for uh this last year. Um We've got a a [7:13] letter. I'm not sure if you want me to read the letter. I think you [7:16] guys might have gotten copies of the proposed letter. [7:20] Um it's just one of these, but um they submitted uh recommendations for [7:26] expenditures of the transient guest tax revenues for the calendar year 2027. [7:31] These recommendations were discussed and approved by the board during their [7:34] regular meeting held on June 3rd, 2026. Um based on their assessments of [7:41] priorities, that tourism and visitors board recommend. The train they [7:45] discussed tax revenues be allocated towards the following key areas, [7:50] local and regional tourism and marketing promotions. [7:54] They believe investing in targeted marketing campaigns across various [7:58] platforms to promote Coffee County as a desirable destination including efforts [8:03] to erase awareness of attractions, events, and unique characteristics among [8:08] potential visitors within Kansas and our surrounding states. [8:12] They also want to see continued support of community events [8:16] by providing support which could include financial assistance, promotional [8:20] resources, or logistical aid to [clears throat] community events that [8:24] are specifically designed to attract or have a proven track record of attracting [8:30] significant visitor attendance from outside of Coffee County. [8:34] And then also just kind of another bucket of other activities with a direct [8:38] positive impact on tourism could be funding projects or initiatives [8:42] that directly contribute to improving the visitor experience and increasing [8:47] visitation to Coffee County. This could include but not limited to [8:52] supporting visitor information services, enhancing tourism related signage or [8:57] infrastructure, providing funding or community members to attend tourism [9:02] related training. We did have one of our tourism board we [9:07] helped pay for her to go to the state tourism conference this last year. So, [9:11] things like that if we can help get people to some of those [9:14] trainings I think would be good. And other efforts clearly aimed at fostering [9:19] tourism growth. Um [9:22] So, that's kind of our recommendation. I think last year you [9:26] guys just voted to approve that recommendation. [9:31] There wasn't kind of a specific dollar ask with that. [9:38] Didn't know if there was any questions or anything with the tourism board. [9:46] » I have no questions. >> Okay. [laughter] [9:50] » It's been doing a lot. >> Yeah, I think [9:53] » It's moving forward doing a lot more seems like more active than it ever has [9:56] been. >> I would agree. [9:58] » That's good. We've got a good group and I think it [10:01] does sometimes those just small amounts to help pay for some advertising or for [10:06] an event or um I think one of them we helped pay for [10:10] like the insurance cost like event insurance or something like that. Um [10:15] seems to have a pretty good impact on those events where we know people are [10:19] putting in a lot of hard work to organize them, so. [10:23] Um the other thing I had and um [10:28] it doesn't have to be approved today, but I wanted to bring this to you guys. [10:30] Something else that's come up in several of our meetings with our uh tourism and [10:35] visitors board, we've talked about the transient guest tax rate for Coffee [10:39] County. Um currently the the transient guest tax rate um we get to decide this [10:46] a county can decide it or even cities within a county can can decide what they [10:51] want their rate to be. Um currently Coffee County's is at 3% which uh has [10:57] been effective since April 1st, 1998 um that's I believe when that was [11:03] last updated. Um [11:07] in looking at comparisons, you can print out kind of the transient guest tax [11:11] rates for the state. Um looking at some of our surrounding [11:15] counties, I know Franklin County's there's is at 6%, Osage County's at 6%, [11:22] uh Woodson County's at 6%. A lot of our surrounding counties are either at five [11:26] or six. There's a few that are at two or three which are where ours are at, but [11:31] some of the more active were definitely around six. [11:35] Um and then also for like some cities that are kind of in our area, Shinnston [11:39] sits at 6% and Cory is all the way up at 8%. I know they have a lot of hotels [11:44] there. Um Garnett sits at 6%, Iola sits at 6%, [11:49] um what the the tourism board is [11:51] recommending that Coffee County increase the transient guest tax from 3% to 5%. [11:58] Um I know we're not taking in a a ton of [12:03] revenue from um the transient guest tax. Like I said, [12:07] we're looking at Oh, what did I expect? [12:11] Um somewhere [clears throat] around four to [12:15] six thousand dollars a quarter. Um but again, we have been turning around and [12:19] trying to use those funds to promote people coming here that would have a [12:23] direct positive impact on our um motels that we have, our Airbnb's. So, trying [12:28] to get more people to come here um [12:31] to increase those stays. So, that was their recommendation. I did um [12:37] send Angie a resolution draft. Um [12:40] if you guys want to take that into consideration or think it over and maybe [12:44] we could discuss it again next week. Um if that's something [12:48] you guys would like to [12:52] discuss. Um the other thing in the resolution I [12:56] did put, and this was after going back through our previous resolutions for the [13:02] tourism and visitors board, um is a suggested change to [13:07] the um appointments. [13:10] So, what I was looking at, our previous um [13:15] resolution that has required positions. So, currently we've got um county [13:20] commissioner on the board, myself, chamber of commerce director, and two uh [13:25] just community members. Technically, in the bylaws, it says the [13:30] required positions are a representative of the Board of County Commissioners or [13:36] Coffee County Economic Development Department, one position. A [13:40] representative of the Coffee County Chamber of Commerce, [13:44] a representative of the hotel and motel industry, which must be reside in Coffee [13:49] County, and then um two optional at-large positions that [13:55] are community members. Um [13:58] So, technically, according to our bylaws, [14:01] we're not we don't have a direct representative of the hotel or motel [14:06] industry, and we've got myself and a commissioner on there. [14:10] My suggestion to change the language of the bylaws [14:14] just a little bit would be um Tourism and Visitors Board Composition. [14:20] Um still have no more than five voting members. [14:25] We would have a representative of the Board of County Commissioners, [14:29] a representative of the Chamber of Commerce, [14:32] a representative of the hotel or motel industry, and then two optional at-large [14:37] positions. The change would be to add an ex-officio [14:42] non-voting member. So, Coffee County Economic Development would serve as [14:46] ex-officio non-voting member of the board, would serve as the liaison [14:51] between the board, the county, and the community. Um she'll be responsible [14:54] [clears throat] for facilitation of meetings and administrative [14:57] coordination, which is what I do anyway. I typically, you know, I take in the [15:02] funding requests, I organize the meetings. [15:05] Um But, I think this way we can still keep [15:09] the representation on the board. Um [15:13] » So, you'd be changed from a voting to a non-voting [15:15] » Yes. >> position. [15:16] » So, basically, I would feel comfortable with that since [15:19] I'm organizing everything anyway. A lot of times I'm the person between [15:23] whoever's asking for funding and the board. [15:26] Um That would just be my suggestion. [15:30] Um if we change that, I could still stay on as admin, but [15:35] we wouldn't be losing representation representation from the county, and we [15:40] could look at adding somebody from you know, [clears throat] hotel, motel, [15:43] or Airbnb, which I think would be a good fit. [15:46] » And right now you don't have that position filled up for the for the [15:49] hotel. >> There's nobody in that position. We have [15:51] five people. Um [15:54] But we have myself and a commissioner, two community members, and chamber. [15:59] » How many are you looking to just one or two? [16:02] » So, we would still keep five members on the board, but we would need to add [16:06] someone from the hotel or motel industry, which our bylaws say we're [16:10] supposed to have anyway, and just move myself to ex officio. [16:14] » Okay. So, would there be anybody that fit fit that [16:19] with looking at the the county? >> I think we could find somebody. [16:23] Um Sherry and I have already kind of had [16:25] that conversation. I haven't reached out to them yet, cuz I wanted to see what [16:28] you guys have thought about this word, but I think there's several [16:31] people who might be interested. >> That'd be good to have somebody [16:34] represent their side of it too. >> So, I figured since we're we're talking [16:39] about the resolution for the guest tax rate, we could just throw that [16:43] in there as well. So, [16:46] um my recommendation would be to [16:49] have you guys uh Angie can get that in your packets for next week. Um give you [16:54] guys some time to think about that, and then um we can discuss and [16:58] approve if you guys so choose. Does that sound good? [17:03] » [clears throat] >> Casper, could you [17:05] uh between now and then could you reach out to somebody to see if if [17:08] » Yeah. If there's some interest? [17:10] » Yeah. >> Yeah. I'd be happy to do that. [17:12] Cool. Um that is all I have for tourism and [17:17] visitor board. [17:19] Thank you guys. >> Sounds good. [17:21] » Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. [17:26] » Okay. >> All right. [17:27] » It's not quite 9:20 or do you have everybody here, Christy? You're [17:31] » Yes, this is Kelsey Knight today. >> Okay, so we have conservation district [17:36] 2027 budget request. [clears throat] [17:39] » And the budgets are in your notebooks. >> Budgets are in the books. [17:43] » Yes, I apologize. I didn't put them in here. [17:47] Um For those who don't know me, I'm Christy [17:50] Vote. I work for the Coffee County Conservation District. Um and also with [17:55] us is Kelsey Porter. She is the district conservationist for NRCS. That's um [18:02] in uh [18:05] USDA service centers here in the county. The conservation district is a public [18:11] entity. Um we get our funding from the county commissioners as well as the [18:16] state of Kansas. Um but we are also a partner um with the NRCS or Natural [18:23] Resource Conservation Service that's housed in USDA. Um [18:29] Oh, sorry. I'm on page >> Page 56. [18:31] » Yes, okay. Well, there's two. [18:33] » For 10. >> Yeah, there are there are two budgets. [18:35] » One's for general fund and one's for [18:40] the conservation district. >> What are the entries we're looking at? [18:42] » Uh you're looking at >> 34 and [18:45] 56. >> Yeah, 34. [18:47] » So 34. [18:50] Sorry. >> Thank you. No, you're good. [18:55] And through our partnership, we provide um technical or we excuse me, we provide [19:00] clerical assistance as well as educational outreach opportunities and [19:04] then um NRCS's side, they offer us the technical assistance to to our [19:10] cost-share programs. And um they work with us in a whole host of other [19:15] different ways. Um if you look back at our [19:20] office in the last 10 years, we had seven employees in our office. And as [19:25] budget cuts have come along, um we are currently in [19:31] down to just Kelsey and I in the office. So, if there's farmers and producers [19:35] needing technical assistance, um [19:39] it's us. Um we do have assistance coming from [19:43] Greenwood and um Wilson County, but we just learned that [19:48] the technician in Wilson County is retiring in July. So, we are just down [19:53] to one person that is able to to offer that to us. [19:57] Um I'm coming The reason for such a large increase, we typically stay at a [20:02] 3% increase, is because we are seeking assistance to [20:06] hire at least somebody part-time. Um we feel this is important um [20:12] to get somebody trained >> fill that position. [20:15] » to help fill that position that is um is lacking. Um [20:19] we're hoping the hiring freeze is going to lift. Um we can get um we've had a [20:25] candidate here in Coffee County County that would be ready to step in um and [20:30] apply for that federal position, but we just need a little help just trying to [20:35] get us that direction. [20:38] Um just to kind of give you some dollars um on the federal side, we're [20:42] technically um looking at like 30 projects rolling in for about 338,000. [20:48] That's just this year. Um CRP annually we're running at 628,000 [20:55] is what they're getting this year. Um and that's over 10,000 acres of CRP in [21:00] the county. Um state cost share, we get over $30,000 [21:05] from the state that we administer the um [21:09] a little over 30 here in Coffee County that the commissioners allocate for us [21:13] to to use for our land owners. We mirror those cost share projects or [21:18] cost share programs the same as the state, so there's no confusion or [21:22] overlap with our um producers. [21:26] Um but when you look at it, um [21:30] the numbers come down to we have [21:34] Coffee County will impact CRP here is fifth in the state of Georgia with the [21:37] number of contracts. So, we have [21:42] over what? We're looking at [21:46] Sorry, I lost my my spot. Um the [21:51] contract that we have, we have um it takes the amount of hours to do one [21:57] contract that's a half an acre versus somebody that has a contract of 200 [22:01] acres. So, going out this year, we're looking at 120 field reviews to do, plus [22:08] um another 60 contracts or more that have been re-enrolled or um signed up [22:14] uh for for a new uh contract. So, numbers are [22:19] there, manpower is not, and that's where we're coming just to seek some [22:22] assistance. And we get the the approval to have an opening in our county, we'll [22:27] reduce that, but we're just needing some assistance to get us by in this pinch. [22:33] So, I just thought it was important to come up. Usually, we just go with a 3% [22:38] um increase in our budget, but we felt that [22:41] it was needed this year. Do you guys have any questions, concerns [22:49] that we need to have to address? [22:52] » [clears throat] >> You say needed this year, you're talking [22:55] about next budget year? >> Yes, in Yeah, yeah, it for 2027. We have [23:00] enough that we're we're able to make it, but we're definitely for 2027, that's [23:06] where we're needing some assistance. And hopefully we're able to make that hump [23:11] um in the the next year not to come back [23:15] and ask for that much more. So. [23:21] I just felt it was important and I I know you guys have a lot to do and um we [23:26] just wanted to come up and share with you [23:29] our justifications for that. >> Exactly. [23:33] » So, but thank you guys for your time. And and again, I'm not trying to rush [23:37] you. If you have any questions or concerns [23:40] um or anything you'd like to see us do differently, [23:43] let us know. Um always happy to have conversations. [23:49] » Sounds like your personnel has been cut drastically over the last 20 years. [23:52] » Yeah, it has. I mean, we look around to the dark office. [laughter] [23:58] » Work hard to get all the federal money >> that you can. [24:01] » That we we're trying. Um and you know, and [24:06] as producers, you guys know that I mean the restraints that are there. I mean [24:11] » Yeah. >> they're getting tighter and tighter, but [24:14] we're trying to make do the best we can. >> You guys are doing a good job. [24:18] » Well, we appreciate your time. And if you have any questions, you know where [24:22] to find us. >> Yes. [24:23] » All right. Thanks, guys. >> Nice to see you too. [24:31] » How are you? [24:46] » [snorts] [24:48] » What are you saying we're going to do? >> We have to wait. [24:51] » Till 9:35. [24:55] Oh. Well, it's uh [24:58] It's not 9:40, Jody, but uh we have to wait till 9:35 before we do [25:04] our bid opening. That's 10 minutes, so we could probably go ahead and take you, [25:09] interview you right now. That would work, okay? [25:12] » Interview me now? >> Yeah. Okay. [25:15] » Sure, I can talk to you. >> How are you, Jody? [25:18] » I'm good. How are you, Steve? >> Good. So, you're back to kind of have a [25:22] vacant hospital board position that uh expires [clears throat] [25:27] the end of the year, right? So, this is for [25:30] 6 months. Anyway. [25:33] » Anyway. >> You want to You want to tell us a little [25:35] bit about yourself again? >> I can. So, I'm Jody Thomas and I'm from [25:40] Waverly. Um [25:43] I have um over 40 years in health care [25:48] background. I worked at Coffee County Hospital for 18 years [25:53] and then I left hospital. I worked for a health care software company in Kansas [25:58] City that I worked with over 50 different [26:01] hospitals throughout the United States and the Cayman Islands. I got to go [26:06] there, too. Um [26:09] and I [26:13] Health care is hard, but I enjoy health care. I always have and [26:19] I feel like I like to put what I have into what I know and how I can help, [26:25] too. Um so, in 2022, [26:29] I retired, so it's a nice to just still have that [26:34] piece of health care and I had two kids born at Coffee County. We've been here [26:38] for over 40 years, so I just feel like I have a stake in the game, too and I'd [26:43] like to bring more to it. [26:49] » So, I guess you semi-answered it, but why do you want to [26:54] serve on the hospital board? >> Well, I served on for 9 years. [26:59] Um My term ended in December of this year, [27:03] and I [27:07] It helps me be a part of health care to still understand what the struggles and [27:12] trials and tributes are of health care. Um [27:16] I feel like I I know a lot of the people that still work at the hospital, and I [27:22] just I just feel like with my knowledge and stuff, I I still [27:26] can bring something to health care, to our [27:29] hospital. >> Do you know what challenges the hospital [27:34] board faces? >> I understand being a lot about like the [27:40] finances and stuff that's going on and what's going on up in Topeka and, you [27:45] know, up at up federally and stuff. Those Those are the [27:50] biggest challenges is to know where you need to go to help dig. But, you know, [27:55] our leadership that we have at the hospital today are [27:58] so good to help keep the [28:02] board apprised on what's what's going on in our world. [28:10] » Can you commit to regularly attending meetings, reviewing materials [28:14] beforehand, and participating actively? >> Absolutely. [28:20] » Um [28:27] So, with the board as a board member, um you have to make decisions that uh not [28:32] everyone agrees with. Um how do you approach difficult or [28:37] unpopular decisions? >> Right. Yeah. You have to agree to [28:41] disagree as a board member. It's just like any of you guys that, you know, You [28:45] to agree to disagree and and state your case and um bring forward what your your [28:50] beliefs and and thoughts are. And listen to what others have to [28:57] » How about transparency? What what does that mean to you in in public service? [29:03] » I think over the over the past few years the [29:07] hospital has and and the board have been very transparent within the community [29:13] bringing information to you guys to open up information. The only way you can [29:17] understand is if you understand all that that transparency is [29:21] down and you can understand more about what's going on. [29:27] » What about conflicts of interest? Do you have any conflicts of interest serving [29:32] on the hospital board? >> I do not. [29:39] » So, any other questions? >> I believe so. You could cover everything [29:43] pretty well. >> Do you think there are any other [29:45] questions we should ask you that we haven't? [29:50] » I don't think so. >> [laughter] [29:51] » I think you did pretty good job covering everything. [29:55] » One of the biggest complaints I hear the community about the hospital [30:01] is the billing department. I [30:05] that's always the first topic of conversation when the hospital gets [30:10] brought up. Um [30:13] people go to get their services, take them 6-7 months to get their first [30:18] bill. First time they get their bill, it says you're going to lawsuit. [30:23] What do you think the hospital can do to fix the billing department? [30:28] » Well, I >> It's been an issue for a long time ever [30:31] since it was outsourced. >> Yeah, a long time. [30:35] Um this has been something that's been for years and years. I know that. [30:39] I feel like with [30:42] a lot of it kind of depends on your software, your electronic health record, [30:48] how that all comes to play. So, when you get a bill out the door, it all [30:53] starts when you register at the front desk. So, going through the [30:58] process, if you don't have the if you've got fingered just one character in the [31:03] social security number or your insurance number, that can throw [31:08] everything off and do like things because you've got somebody back here at [31:12] the end that's got to scrub that stuff. So, [31:15] part of that is is problematic and if you don't have the most up-to-date [31:20] software to help bring that those bills through, [31:24] that makes a difference, too. And I do know that there was a problem [31:28] um at one point with [31:32] um I was getting a call after a month after [31:35] I gotten a had my appointment and that was that was [31:40] way too soon. I wasn't delinquent. It's just that was a delay in the process and [31:45] I think those things are getting better. Um [31:49] » So, a lot of times these little [31:53] late billing getting calls after the bill's paid [31:57] this has got to the point where it's run some of the customer base from the [32:00] hospital off. They've they've moved elsewhere. They've [32:04] gone to other doctors. How do you get that customer base back to support the [32:08] hospital? >> Well, I think we just do it through [32:11] transparency and helping people understand. I know there's been meetings [32:14] in the past to help understand even through the community how that kind of [32:18] the billing goes and stuff like that. So, I think we just have to keep [32:22] keep moving forward with that. [32:24] » I think you've got a wonderful facility there. You've got some people up there [32:28] that are just fine employees. You've got a good [32:32] facility. It's It There's always that anchor of [32:35] that billing department at the that that causes the rift with [32:39] » [clears throat and cough] >> Yeah. [32:40] » But I'm not But I'm not so sure that that's not a [32:43] problem with all hospitals to a certain extent, Mike. [32:46] » Well, I mean, I I know all of them. >> No, no, no. I Talk to me about this one. [32:49] » No, no, no. I know that What I'm saying is that [32:52] my experience in the last 2 or 3 years was [32:57] I I'll just use St. Luke's for instance. That billing may not come out for 5 or 6 [33:01] months and then all of a sudden And that's just from my my experience. [33:06] » Okay. Uh [33:07] I think some of this is with a 25-bed hospital there could be more of a [33:11] personal touch to it instead of just all computer programs and random numbers and [33:16] things like that. >> can call the person. [33:18] » They They might still I understand that sitting in a meeting and I I still think [33:22] there needs to be a personal touch to other than billing sent out the door [33:26] just from a computer. >> Yeah. [33:28] » And you said with transposing a social security number, those things need to be [33:33] looked at. Just [33:34] » I mean, I I agree. And there's just it just happens. You [33:38] know, it doesn't happen all the time. But I agree with you, Mike, too. But [33:43] like you said, it does happen and it works because I've seen it. I've I've [33:47] did the give me the patience for that. >> But we're still not St. Luke's though as [33:51] small as we are. >> No, no, but my point was was that was it [33:56] I I used St. Luke's just because that's who I was [33:59] familiar with. I'm just saying that 6 or 7 months down the road I still still was [34:04] getting bills and that had to do with Medicare. Uh that that was my point. [34:08] » Oh, with Medicare that's a whole >> But [34:10] » [clears throat] >> but take that one. [34:11] » That's true. >> And even with myself with the county [34:14] insurance with I don't I haven't had a real complaint about the county [34:18] insurance after all the bumps that that went through going through a bankruptcy [34:22] and everything. It's working good for me now. But [34:26] that has been part of the problem for me is is when they decide trying to decide [34:31] who's responsible for how much. You know, what whether they're going to [34:36] pay or whether they're not and that's been some of my experience. [34:40] » The concerns about that stuff all need to be brought forward. I mean, I can't [34:43] answer all of those questions. It has to be a group, you know, within the board [34:47] meeting or whatever to discuss the problems. And if community brings it [34:51] forward, anybody's welcome to come and sit in to the meeting. [34:55] Um, if they have a complaint, they can call Ray at you know, call anybody at [34:59] the hospital to discuss it. >> Well, they're not here to throw you [35:02] under the bus by any means. We're here to discuss the hospital. But that's just [35:06] that that's out there. I mean, that's in the community. That's the billing [35:11] department has made a lot of people mad at this hospital and it's run them [35:15] off. >> And for a lot of years, there wasn't a [35:19] very good billing system at the hospital cuz people didn't think they had to [35:22] really, you know, make sure that their payments were taken care of and stuff, [35:26] too. I think we have another problem with reconditioning from last year, too. [35:31] » And and there's a fine line between people thinking that that [35:37] I get the bill and then I get talked about collections, but you've got to try [35:41] to move that through the system because some of these people, obviously, some of [35:46] them will never pay. You know, we know we've seen what the [35:49] numbers are on self pay, but regardless, they need to be pursued to try to [35:54] collect what money >> We do that for we got to keep them going [35:57] for sure. >> Oh, yeah, right, right. That's what I'm [35:59] saying. I mean, it's a fine line between people thinking [36:03] they're they're being sought after too hard and [36:06] a lot of those people are never going to pay till they're pushed, you know. [36:10] » And and that's what I've heard is, you know, [36:13] we give them $4.2 million this year for a budget for [36:18] '27. And and I get these people that come up [36:21] that do faithfully pay their bills and they're mad because it's like, why am I [36:25] giving them tax money to the hospital? It's needed, don't get [36:30] me wrong. We need the hospital, but there's just a lot of people [36:34] in this society have a lot of questions about the billing department. It's [36:39] » And those people need to be directed to come and talk to Stacy and Ray to see [36:45] what the problem might be. >> Yeah, yeah, and then that's my [36:47] suggestion. I don't run the billing department. I don't know. You need to go [36:52] » Do we Do we have any other questions for >> No, I've got [36:55] The north end of the hospital, everything seems to be working really, [36:58] really good. The south end in the actual hospital [37:02] department, morale seems to be not the best in the world. How would you [37:07] suggest improving that? >> Well, I think we have to understand what [37:13] or what the morale problem is. Is it leadership? Is it I mean, they need to [37:17] address their managers. Like, you know, walk through this [37:21] um that [37:23] » through the process >> command [37:25] » Yeah. >> You know, start with your manager. If [37:27] that doesn't work, then you go to the next step, but [37:30] you know, that'll have to be handled like [37:33] in appropriate in appropriate way. And sometimes you can't please everybody. [37:38] So >> Okay. [37:42] Any other questions? I think so. [37:46] » All right. >> All right. [37:47] » Thank you for coming. >> guys. [37:48] » Thank you very much. >> Appreciate it, Jerry. [37:51] » Thank you. >> Thanks very much. [37:52] » [clears throat] >> We're done. [37:56] » So, you want to have some questions, too? [37:58] » I don't have anything to do. This is my husband right now. [38:00] » No, I didn't know I was allergic. Thank you, guys. Thank you. [38:07] » Okay, now we'll move on to our bid opening [38:10] for the water softening system. Do we have any bids to open? [38:17] » I haven't received any. [38:22] » I've got one coming in. [38:26] » Okay. [38:29] So no one has any bids. [38:32] » Nope. >> [clears throat] [38:35] » I know what my email >> If I recall correctly, they were due by [38:42] last Friday at >> I don't recall. [38:44] » 5:00 in the clerk's office here. [38:48] I I will tell you I received a number of emails asking for [38:57] plans and design plans, which that wasn't a part of the original bid, so I [39:01] couldn't answer except for the bid [39:06] information as is what it is, so that may have been [39:11] an obstacle. I don't know that. [39:14] But if it needs to go back out, that's [39:17] something that probably needs to be a part of that bid. [39:24] » Do you have any inquiries being lined up at [39:31] » At least three, if not four. Um [39:34] my impression from those groups that sent me emails is they may [39:40] not be companies that actually would bid, but they are [39:46] a place where they'll put the information out. I don't know exactly [39:50] what what what they're called. Do you remember, [39:52] Tom? Cuz I forward those to the Tom. [40:00] » The The The emails came from a company [40:04] that sends out bids people across the United States is [40:08] what it was. [40:12] But I don't remember how many out of one of [40:16] additional information. [40:20] » So, it wasn't from companies that [40:25] » Not Not that I could tell. There may have been one that was a company that [40:28] was interested, but they wanted specific design plans. [40:33] And that's not what was included as part of [40:36] the bid. >> I mean, you're talking here about [40:38] somebody that was going to sell us one right off the bat. They didn't bid it. [40:45] Pardon me? Who was going to sell us one right off [40:48] the bat? >> Sucks. [40:50] » Did they say >> They called me already. [40:52] » From McElroy? [clears throat] >> McElroy's, I mean, they just The [40:56] engineer found us the software that they thought we [41:01] needed, the engineers did. And McElroy's could put it in, I [41:04] suppose. >> [clears throat] [41:06] » And I don't know whether I'm just going to send this text out and [41:09] ask why they didn't bid on it, but I don't know. [41:12] » Yeah, if there's something that we can correct, we'll get to fix it. [41:15] » That'd be great. >> Yeah. [41:17] » Yeah. [41:20] » Cuz they were sounding like definitely interested. [41:22] » Yeah, it was kind of like they were ready to move on it when we were [41:25] discussing all that. [41:32] » I've never received a bid. >> Yeah. [41:35] » Yeah, I don't remember receiving a bid. [41:38] » [clears throat] >> Yeah. [41:44] » So, do we want to extend the bid time on it for another 2 weeks and try again? [41:50] » Yeah, we just need to re- [41:54] go back to that original [41:58] » [clears throat] >> motion and then [42:02] re-vote on the motion and extend it with a new 30-day deadline. [42:07] » You need to add on there that uh whatever they're requesting or what were [42:12] asking about. >> Hopefully. We just Yeah. [42:16] » Um Let me see if I can [42:19] Maybe if you put >> I mean if that was an obstacle [42:23] you know, then maybe [42:26] Yeah, I'll stick that in the biz, so we can uh [42:31] get them to [42:45] You told me said you did text Mac or Wade to see [42:49] What is the goal? >> Okay. [43:22] » Did you find [43:25] motion? >> Yeah. [43:27] » Okay. [43:37] Excuse me. >> [snorts] [43:41] » For example, one of the questions that that's not anything I can answer, but [43:48] basis of design or performance requirements [43:57] Um [44:00] specifications regarding software capacity flow requirements, [44:05] connection sizes those are things that [44:10] are [44:13] one of the questions that was asked was which is reasonable, but [44:16] obviously I can't >> Most of those should be in the original [44:20] specs of for that building. [44:28] Mac of Maine's should be able to help us with doing the bid specific for it [44:33] because of Do you have any recommendation [44:35] » on it? >> And we thought that the original bid had [44:38] all that information, but apparently [44:42] it resulted in >> [snorts] [44:44] » more questions. So [44:47] » Al Cole says is he believed that Mac of Maine's was bidding planning to [44:51] bid on it. That's all he knows. He's going to reach [44:54] out to them. Can you say that? [44:56] » Say that again, Tom. >> Cole says that Mac of Maine's were [44:59] planning on bidding on it. >> Okay. [45:01] » Maybe the Pony Express is better to help them. [45:09] » So this is just giving them maybe a few weeks to do that. [45:18] And so So that was a [45:23] an advertisement for bids, legal notice. [45:30] » We have to redo that. >> I was going to say we want to just [45:33] change it. >> Extend the bid on it. [45:37] » My my question is, I mean, do we want to do the same bid procedure, the same [45:43] legal notice, or do we add to it the what the questions were, you're letting [45:49] them know how to get get their hands on whatever plans or [45:54] » Well, I mean, couldn't they couldn't they come in and look [45:59] and see what information they need? >> That's what I'm That's what I'm [46:02] wondering. I mean that's not for what you asked. [46:05] » Because well What can they [46:08] What can they have done that before? >> Or they can reverse engineer and get [46:13] that information on their own. >> Yeah. [46:22] » Maybe they feel they've already made their offer. [46:25] » I just hesitate to put the same information out there if nobody [46:29] » It'll generate the same >> outcome the same response. Yeah. [46:33] » If we can maybe pass this until the end and Tom and I [46:39] can see if we can get >> Okay. [46:41] » some some more details And I'd like to be able to tell you what you [46:46] need to put in it but that's not my not my area. What's the [46:51] » Yeah, it'd be nice to get moving along with it too. They're struggling with [46:55] dealing with this issue all the time sounds like. [46:58] It'd be nice to get something done. >> What day can you We can do it here for [47:04] once. >> There's May 4th or May 11th and I don't [47:07] mind the [47:13] » Okay. And we'll [47:16] » Cole will be able to look at Cole will be able to help me with what [47:21] they're asking for what he brought. >> Have you answered some of their [47:24] questions? The phone? [47:27] » Yeah. >> Right. [47:30] Oh, okay. I'm talking about the the the bidders [47:32] » What should we put in the bid if we could do something like that? [47:37] » You always have to ask. >> Should we use his name as a contact? [47:41] People seeking information for the bid? >> We should ask him maybe. I don't know. [47:46] » We can check with him. So the [47:50] the goal was to have an even playing field [47:53] across the board. So whatever happens for one needs to be able to happen for [47:58] all so that that's whatever information comes in [48:01] [clears throat] that's why I couldn't just send [48:03] somebody asked a specific question regarding something that's missing and [48:07] then they get additional information and the others don't then it's not an equal [48:12] playing field so that's that's the goal here. That's true that they're all free [48:17] to ask these questions. [48:20] Okay we'll revisit at the end of the meeting and [48:25] figure out how to proceed to go. [48:29] Okay we can go ahead and take our [48:33] take a break right now. Um [48:37] Just return at 10:00. [48:58] All right it's 10:00 we're back in session. [49:03] 10:00 appointment we have with Gerald and Kraus about property damage. [49:09] You want to come on up here? [49:12] Do you have my meter now since I've been using that thing? Okay I'm Jerry Kraus. [49:18] I live at 2215 US Highway 75 [49:23] and on April 14th of this year I was sitting up actually reading and when the [49:30] Sheriff's Department called me and said that somebody had went through my fence [49:35] along 75 instead of turning to go on to 75 they went through my fence and [49:40] destroyed it and I had been up already outside with [49:45] my dogs cuz they were throwing a fit and then I heard a guy go by really fast but [49:51] I thought it was on 75 not on my frontage road. Well, it was on my [49:55] frontage road. And uh eventually what happened was the [49:59] guy was fleeing from the the sheriff's department. [50:03] And they went out there. He went through the 75 fence, then he went through [50:09] taking two wires with him all the way to the next [50:13] quarter mile fence, a quarter mile past that. Strong wire all the way through [50:18] that. Went through that fence. Did a U and came back and hit [50:25] these H's and gates that literally we had installed 10 days before that from [50:30] Paul Blair. That bill was 50-some hundred dollars [50:34] just to do that. And um [50:39] I assumed and that and the sheriff's department all kind of let me believe [50:44] that this man was the one that did this all. [50:47] Well, I could not figure it out. Paul Blair [50:50] came out. Him and I were looking at this. We could not figure out how this [50:55] guy that was in the north northeast section, 40 acres, [51:01] and how he came back and he hit the gates on the north side of this T, which [51:06] had H's, gates, gates, gates, gates, so we could get everybody rotated. [51:14] And um and so he was stuck there, this [51:18] criminal. And um [51:21] when we finally got subpoenaed on um June 10th to go in, I'd been asking and [51:29] asking for paperwork. I wanted help on trying to either get Enterprise, cuz the [51:35] car was a rental car. We were trying to get somebody to pay for some of this [51:39] damage. Nobody would help me. Nobody would give [51:42] me paperwork, nothing. Finally, that day they gave me [51:45] paperwork. In the paperwork I see there's eight people that [51:50] responded. I knew there was a ton of cars out in my pasture that day. They [51:55] had to go from 22nd Road all the way across my ground field which consisted [52:00] of 15 brand new babies that weren't even 2 weeks old and their mothers. [52:06] And then each one of these had 15 and their babies. And I take very good [52:12] care of my cows. And I don't want them killed. [52:16] And I was very upset when I saw that many people out in my field. [52:21] And then come find out in their paperwork it shows not only was [52:27] the Mis- Mitsubishi involved in it, there was a 27 [52:33] 2017, I think it was, car that actually [52:37] belonged to I'm sure [52:41] our sheriff's department. [52:44] So now Paul Blair and I decided we figured out how all the gates, all the [52:51] the pole post, which was a 5-in post, all got bent northeast because this was [52:59] guy was on the north side. How could he hit it from the south [53:03] and go through that? There was no way. But we saw all the tracks and everything [53:07] else. And now I know that the sheriff's department is the one that actually did [53:11] all that damage. I want retribution for the $3,400 [53:17] that I'm out on that. I will go for the the guy that's in jail or prison, [53:23] whatever he is at, for the rest of it. But this I feel like [53:29] this is the third time in 2 years and 2 months that we have had massive damage [53:35] on our properties. Maybe y'all don't know about March 30th [53:39] of 2025 when they ran through the property along 75 and wiped out 450 [53:47] ft of it and had me come up there at 3:00 in the morning, told me that [53:52] hydroplaned, but the thing was I was already up again that morning cuz I get [53:56] up about 2:30. And it was light mist and rain. He [54:01] barely missed a big culvert which he would have got killed in. [54:07] Totaled the car and wiped out 450 ft of that. Which they [54:13] did pay, the county did pay. Your insurance paid that. [54:18] And the year before that was when the two young men got killed [54:24] on the highway right north of there. And we had all kinds of debris, big [54:29] tires, everything else that got thrown into our pasture. [54:34] We called the sheriff's department again. [54:36] Nobody ever came out to help pick up that mess. We picked it up ourselves. [54:42] So, I [clears throat] am asking to see if you guys would help us out on [54:47] this. I I am really upset with um [54:52] I I feel like we've we've went over bounds on chasing people. [54:59] There are several of us neighbors that live on 75 and we are very concerned [55:04] that someday somebody's going to be killed because I understand the sheriff [55:08] needs to to chase a car. I understand that, but I don't believe at 100 mph. [55:15] Because somebody will get killed eventually. [55:21] And um Wade, he's representing, you know, [55:28] I I I want this guy and I would prefer Wade to have this guy as this guy [55:33] actually in the subpoena had told the other [55:36] attorney that he was um >> I just [55:41] So, the danger zone we're in right now is we [55:45] have an active criminal case. And when we have an active criminal [55:50] case, where it's still moving through the system, [55:55] there are certain rules and responsibilities. One of those [55:59] responsibilities, especially from the prosecution side, is [56:05] to not have extrajudicial statements made [56:09] that >> [clears throat] [56:12] » could influence. So, this is on YouTube. Someone will come back, and I don't want [56:17] there to be an issue with the case moving forward. We've had that [56:20] conversation. I'm I'm understanding that because under [56:27] » [clears throat] >> Kansas Rule of Professional [56:29] Responsibility Rule number 3.8, which ties to special responsibilities of the [56:35] prosecutor, I'm required, and [56:38] I just need to make sure it's stated, and you can do with it what you want. [56:42] But, prosecutor in a criminal case shall, [56:47] except for statements that are necessary to inform the public of the nature and [56:50] extent of the prosecutor's action, and that serve a legitimate law enforcement [56:56] purpose, refrain from making extrajudicial comments that have a [57:01] substantial likelihood of heightened public condemnation [57:05] of the accused, and exercise reasonable care to prevent investigators, law [57:10] enforcement personnel, employees, or other persons [57:14] assisting or associated with the prosecutor in a criminal case from [57:18] making an extrajudicial statement that the prosecutor would be prohibited from [57:23] making under uh Rule 3.6. And then in the comments, [57:27] it ties to uh [57:30] other other persons. [57:33] I understand your frustration. We've talked about it. I don't [57:38] I >> And I could bring up what you said, but [57:42] I will not bring it up. >> I [57:44] appreciate that. >> Hm? [57:46] » I said we appreciate that. >> Yeah. [57:49] » So, you know, if it's a concern like this, we won't we won't do anything to [57:53] jeopardize this case, you know. >> And you know, um [57:59] I'm concerned about what I lose. I I am. >> Totally would be, too. And the shoes. [58:03] » I'm starting to get really tired of what's happening in our county. [58:08] And I I like the cops. I want them to be there. [58:12] But I'm going to ask you point-blank, who [58:15] would have paid my cows if they would have ran over my cows and calves that [58:19] day? Who would have? [58:23] Can any of you say? Would you guys have? [58:28] Would the county have paid? >> Well, [clears throat] I guess it'd be a [58:31] case-by-case deal. In my That's what I would think. But [58:36] I don't know what the legal >> Because right now, I'm not getting paid [58:39] by anybody. >> All right. [58:41] You haven't Have Have you been able to collect any of the other money from [58:45] » From nothing. >> from the other So, the rental car [58:48] insurance would not have [58:49] » Because because nobody will look into this. I'm the only one that looked into [58:55] it and found out that the car was rented by a girl in which [59:00] » No. >> I asked them point-blank, why don't you [59:03] She says the car was stolen, but she called it in at 3:29 a.m. He went [59:08] through my fence at 3:15 a.m. She got a phone call. All you have to do is [59:12] subpoena her. Get her phone records. Find out where she got the phone message [59:18] that she had to call in to the cops that it was stolen at 7:00 the night before. [59:23] I don't believe that. I believe she loaned it to him. [59:27] But, because I don't have any help of getting that knowledge, [59:31] I can't go after Enterprise. If I had that knowledge, Enterprise would be [59:35] responsible for everything. [59:39] » So, do you have any expectation of when this [59:43] might go to court or be done with court? Wait, I Well, it's it's hard to predict [59:47] when it'd be done. >> It's It's moving through the system um [59:52] in I guess it's a case that [59:56] for lack of better wording is in its infancy and [1:00:00] I I'm not sure where it's going to go. I'd like to have it resolved, but I [1:00:04] don't get to make that decision. If they want to have a trial, [1:00:11] we're months and months out. So, [1:00:17] I just want to make sure that I'm I'm doing what I can for Ms. Kraus [1:00:22] and and her husband. I know she doesn't feel that way, but I [1:00:27] I don't I don't control the the tone and tempo and pace of of the system. [1:00:33] That's uh That's That's outside [1:00:36] I guess it's within my control, but it's outside of my control at the same time. [1:00:40] » Well, then would it be fair, Jerry, talk to me a little bit about it after [1:00:46] the solution of the wheels of justice get done, we revisit this here if you [1:00:51] have not been compensated for all your losses and that's the commission, we [1:00:55] could look back in on that and see if what we can do at that point. [1:00:59] » That's what I'd be comfortable >> with if [1:01:02] » And I would have appreciated the sheriff's department telling me that [1:01:06] they were the ones that ran into it. >> Jerry, is is your uh homeowner's [1:01:11] insurance does it cover anything? >> No. Fence 250 ft from my house. [1:01:16] That's the only thing. They will only cover fence 250 ft from [1:01:21] my house. >> That's it. [1:01:23] » I did not know that. Because because they told me if I went [1:01:28] through them, they would have to go through [1:01:30] Fight Enterprise. But [1:01:34] but they called me up and said, "Hey, we don't do that. So, we're not Fight [1:01:38] Enterprise because we won't pay it." So, nobody is Nobody's helping me. [1:01:43] Nobody's helped me find anything out. And um I'm doing all my investigating on [1:01:50] my own. And like I would I would like to see the [1:01:55] dash cameras of all the cops. [1:01:58] That's what I would like. [1:02:04] So, I guess I made my point here. >> I understand your frustration and [1:02:09] getting hit three times in 2 years is pretty [1:02:13] » That's quite a bit. >> You'd like to think your odds are going [1:02:16] to get better. You should >> [clears throat] [1:02:18] » Oh. >> Well, and Paul Blair could not believe [1:02:20] he built this all and 10 days later is completely demolished. [1:02:26] And that's what it looks like now. That's what it did I had not even taken [1:02:31] a picture of it before. I do have all the damage if you want [1:02:36] those pictures, but uh but [1:02:41] and Wade, you've done a good job. I'm not I'm not mad at you. [1:02:45] Um I'm just I'm aggravated at the system. [1:02:50] And I feel like the person that got the damage [1:02:53] doesn't get any help. >> Yeah. [1:02:57] » Thank you. [1:03:00] » Thank you. >> Jerry, when this is [1:03:03] brought to an end judiciously with him, please come back. [1:03:07] » Okay. >> And we'll revisit this again. [1:03:10] » Okay. [1:03:14] » Okay. [1:03:18] Thanks, David. [1:03:26] Excuse me. Thank you. [1:03:31] » Emergency Management Director Amber Presley, department update. [1:03:40] » Good morning. >> Good morning. [1:03:43] » This will be short and sweet. I have a lot. [1:03:47] » What's that, Floyd? [1:03:52] » Uh I did reach out to Stan Luke about uh all the resources that the county has to [1:03:57] offer during any kind of emergencies or situations, and um [1:04:02] I haven't heard back yet, but uh I'll keep trying to get with him. [1:04:07] Uh [1:04:09] as far as weather, we didn't have too much, but a lot of rain and [1:04:14] lightning this weekend. Lyon County, I noticed was in a flood warning for one [1:04:18] of their creeks, but so far we don't have any watches or warnings or [1:04:22] advisories for flooding as of right now. And it could change. Um we were in a [1:04:28] flood watch over the weekend, but it got canceled because they didn't get all the [1:04:31] rain that they thought we would get. Um [1:04:35] some places in Kansas got 4 in, and we didn't, though. [1:04:40] Um I did check John Redmond to see their lake levels to make sure [1:04:45] that we were sitting good there. They're not quite even halfway through [1:04:49] in between commerce conservation and the flood stage, but they are 12 ft above [1:04:54] normal. So, [clears throat] and but they're not [1:04:56] releasing much. I think there's one one of the little gates open, not [1:05:00] releasing a whole lot, so I think they're feeling pretty confident with [1:05:03] everything, so. But I like to keep an eye on that. Um [1:05:07] towers, so towers are progressing. Um all towers [1:05:12] are up. Uh, all the fiber is ran, all the [1:05:15] generators are hooked up. They still have some civil work to do at all [1:05:19] locations. Um, all the fences around the towers are [1:05:23] done and mainly the work is being done on the [1:05:26] interior of the building and then the um, the racks that go in that have all [1:05:32] the radio stuff and all the um, internet communications, all all [1:05:36] those things. Um, [1:05:39] they did Uh, [1:05:41] the contractor did have some people that they lost to go work on stuff at [1:05:48] FIFA at the World Cup. So, that set us back a little bit that [1:05:52] they aren't getting everything done as much as they needed. [1:05:56] Um, it was like FIFA's putting a hold on all kinds of things, but [1:06:01] » [clears throat] >> um, so we're kind of looking at pushing [1:06:04] back our completion date to probably August where we were thinking we were [1:06:07] going to be done done in July. So, August looks like our new completion [1:06:12] date on the towers. Um, I participated as SimCell for the [1:06:18] Wolf Creek drill last Wednesday. Um, [1:06:21] I played the entire county. Uh, dispatch also got involved. They [1:06:26] participated by taking notifications from Wolf Creek as they would do in a [1:06:30] real event or in a drill where they everybody was participating. Um, that [1:06:35] gets them some practice on taking those [1:06:38] notification forms and it also gives the Wolf Creek communicators practice in [1:06:42] talking to dispatch. So, um, that's a good practice. [1:06:47] Still don't have any um, drills or exercises this year. We [1:06:51] plan on doing uh, Wolf Creek training [1:06:55] sometime late summer, maybe into the fall a little bit. [1:07:00] And that's all I have. >> Is that what was going on Wednesday up [1:07:03] at the building at Beaver Junction? >> Yes. Yeah. The National Guard goes up [1:07:07] there and stations and um [1:07:11] sometimes they go up there and just do training and sometimes they participate [1:07:14] in those exercises. So, they'll go up there and set up like it was a real [1:07:19] event and run through the motions and then [1:07:22] take everything down. >> I didn't see any military or National [1:07:26] Guard vehicles in the parking lot, which really fooled me. That's kind of [1:07:29] » Oh. >> one of the most memorable ones there. [1:07:31] » Yeah. Usually National Guard. [1:07:36] Any questions, issues? Comments? [1:07:41] I think Okay. >> Nothing. [1:07:43] » Okay. All right. Oh, we did get the um backup power bid [1:07:48] in. Mark voted in for me last week. And we should be ready to roll. That'll [1:07:54] run the 18th, 25th, and the 2nd. And then there's a [1:07:58] holiday that week, so I put the due date on the following Monday, which is July [1:08:03] 5th. So, then uh we'll open the bids and I'll [1:08:07] look over them with everybody um [1:08:10] with Adam and um [1:08:14] and Austin. We'll kind of look at what we like and then we'll bring it to [1:08:18] you on the 13th with a recommendation. What we like. [1:08:23] Do when I come with that, do I bring all the bids or just the one that we decided [1:08:27] on? Cuz I know you guys probably would like [1:08:30] to look at the bid prices and what else [1:08:34] » mind seeing all the bids. >> Okay. [1:08:35] » I just thought you meant >> Okay. [1:08:37] » Okay. >> Yeah, I can do that. I can put together [1:08:39] all the bids together and the companies and everything. And [1:08:42] then if you want to look at them specifically, I can give them to you. [1:08:45] But, I'll still come with a recommendation for what we like. [1:08:49] » Let's put it on the agenda for the first >> For next week? Uh no, the 13th. [1:08:55] Oh. Okay. >> That's when you're auditing those [1:08:57] computers. [1:09:00] » So, y'all all can me out of the way first. Yeah. [1:09:04] » Well, we don't plan to have her in the meeting today, so [1:09:06] » Okay. All right. I know. [1:09:10] Right after approval of the minutes. [1:09:15] Yes. Okay. Thank you guys. [1:09:17] » All right. Thank you. [1:09:22] Heidi planning and zoning [1:09:27] comprehensive plan project >> Good morning commissioners. [1:09:32] » Good morning. >> So, as you are aware, we've been working [1:09:36] on the plan since beginning of middle of last year. They kind of kicked it off [1:09:41] about July and did all of the town hall meetings and did the focus groups. Then [1:09:45] they started writing the plan. We've been slowly getting the document and due [1:09:50] to circumstances beyond both of our controls, we're not as far along as I'd [1:09:55] like to be right now. So, what I'm asking us to do today is to [1:09:59] look at a possible extension because the right now the contractual completion [1:10:04] date would be September 30th of this year. [1:10:07] To be honest, we have about at least seven more chapters to review, but then [1:10:13] we got to go back and look at goals and goals and objectives in each chapter and [1:10:18] talk about the public hearing for this for this planning board plus the ones [1:10:23] for you guys plus communications. So, I don't think we can get that done [1:10:27] in three months. Being realistic on that, the way that [1:10:31] we're reading the document and going over it and making changes is great. I'm [1:10:36] glad that we're taking the time to do that, but it's going to take us more [1:10:39] time than three months. So, my um [1:10:42] suggestion would be to extend it to the end of the year and then we see where [1:10:46] we're at there. Um [1:10:48] I have kind of been talking to the board about maybe doing possible other [1:10:52] meetings on top of it where we're not just doing comp plan. There's other [1:10:55] projects that can come up between now and then, too. So, we can specially do [1:10:59] that and then do at least a chapter on the comp plan. They've been kind of [1:11:03] agreeable to that. But, so I've been trying to help [1:11:06] push it through that way. And I know that the document is getting longer now. [1:11:10] So, the next chapters that we're going to come up on are going to be like 30 [1:11:14] plus pages on their own. [1:11:17] So, um that's a lot to get through for you to read as well. So, I have brought [1:11:21] a motion with me today. [1:11:27] Did you guys just look at um [1:11:31] I did prepare a letter. You want to highlight for me one of your [1:11:35] copies. If you guys decide to [1:11:39] go with the motion It It is a draft letter, of course, if [1:11:43] it's not what we want. Um Keith did ask that he [1:11:48] be on it and sign it along with the chairman of the new board. [1:12:01] What's one of the motions she just read? >> You got substantial [1:12:06] in there. That'd be anticipated or something to give us leeway if we [1:12:11] have to extend it in the end on the first of the year or [1:12:14] first of the year. >> Okay. [1:12:17] So, you said it's on the new board. >> That's what he's [1:12:22] talking about. >> I didn't hear you. [1:12:23] » It's just having it where it's anticipated date or something where in [1:12:28] case cuz I sit in on them. I didn't make the last one with the harvest and [1:12:32] everything, but it's really bogging down on them with a lot of questions, [1:12:37] corrections. >> They worked hard on it. [1:12:39] » They've been working really hard at it. And just so we talked earlier [1:12:44] with Martin's that and Wade was in on that [1:12:49] We had a date, but it is anticipated that if we needed more time, we could [1:12:54] take more time. [1:12:58] » The reason why I'm putting something in writing and having the board and Marvin [1:13:03] sign it is the original contract the end date [1:13:09] or substantial completion date of September 30th. If it wasn't completed [1:13:13] by that time, we at the commission's request, we built a [1:13:17] penalty phase into it, which is >> I think this takes care of that. [1:13:21] » This takes care of that. >> That That was my understanding from [1:13:24] Marvin's concern. If they didn't get it done by that date, [1:13:28] then they'd be responsible for a penalty. So, [1:13:31] as everything that's been said it is exactly true. [1:13:35] Taking taking their time to deal with this and not [1:13:39] push it through. And then you have [1:13:42] I was a part of one of the earlier meetings where [1:13:46] for lack of better wording, but there was frustration on the part of the [1:13:50] planning board because they're volunteers and [1:13:55] multiple meetings to get this thing pushed through by that that due date. [1:13:59] That's not fair to the volunteer board members. So, that For For those reasons, [1:14:03] this is a request that's being made. So, [1:14:07] » if we approve this extension, then I mean, the compensation does not change, [1:14:12] right? I mean, they're still [1:14:14] It eliminates the penalty phase, but the compensation remains the same. [1:14:18] » Correct. >> Okay. [1:14:20] » I need to correct me. I may be wrong on this, but I thought [1:14:23] Marvin's was supposed to come down to some of these work sessions personally [1:14:27] instead of doing it on the Zoom. >> So, [1:14:30] due to the unforeseen circumstances on their end, too, they've picked up some [1:14:36] more work. That's not our concern. [1:14:41] But, uh So, one of them is going to be able to [1:14:45] attend. Um they are claiming to come to at least the [1:14:51] land use sections. I feel like the land use section should be done in person and [1:14:55] the golden objectives plus the public hearing presentation. [1:14:59] They are going planning to come. It's just [1:15:03] schedule has The one that would be doing that would [1:15:07] be Keith and he has been on other projects, not just ours. So, [1:15:12] that's why Mason's been the one doing it on their behalf. But, they do plan for [1:15:17] those to be in person. [1:15:23] » So, on this motion that you were talking about the word substantially, [1:15:27] do we need to reword that? >> Yes, sir. [1:15:29] » Should it stay or [1:15:33] We used to put it in time for a word. [1:15:39] It's just going to be all right there. [1:15:42] It's your job. Okay, I'm sorry. [1:15:46] » No, it's okay. It's on the bottom line there. [1:15:50] With this motion that might work, you know. [1:15:53] I was reading on their letter. >> Oh, okay. [1:15:56] » Okay, so that's just a draft. With the noise, I haven't It's not set in stone. [1:16:01] Just wanted to bring that with it so that I could get your [1:16:04] opinions and advice of how to have it written so that you can get it out. [1:16:07] » One other thing, Heidi, this is not taking a shot at you, but with Morbiz, [1:16:12] when we made this a deal, we looked at some other people in the Kansas City [1:16:16] area and we were afraid that we'd be put on the back burner for other people [1:16:20] coming in. And I know that they had some [1:16:23] circumstances there and I think to me it's feeling like maybe we're kind of [1:16:28] getting pushed off the burner to another one. [1:16:31] » We were before. We aren't now. [1:16:34] » Okay. >> No, they are They're very responsive to [1:16:37] our requests that are being made and they're very responsive on the changes [1:16:40] we want made. I'm keeping them month to month, so that way I'm not giving the [1:16:45] board too much at a time cuz I feel like that'd be a lot of information overload [1:16:49] if I gave them two chapters plus have the old [1:16:52] um draft that they were looking at before. So, we [1:16:56] are going at a very good pace. >> Well, I'm talking about Marvin and their [1:17:01] overload that they're seeming to have. >> They're They're able to They're managing [1:17:06] it better now. >> Okay. [1:17:07] » A couple months ago, it's a little bit of a struggle, but [1:17:11] they're They're doing better now. >> Good. [1:17:13] » So, yes. >> The other night, I felt that the Zoom [1:17:16] with Russ and with Marvin [1:17:20] it it worked pretty close to them being in the room. Not not maybe not as good [1:17:24] as Todd, but it it it seemed to work pretty good the other night. [1:17:28] There's times that with lag between [1:17:33] the Zoom, the computers, and everything, some things get missed and have to be [1:17:36] repeated. It's not the best to hear in there. [1:17:40] The one last meeting I was at, we couldn't see what was his name? [1:17:44] » Mason, yeah. He was having >> And Mason was a huge talking on black [1:17:47] screen on a black screen. >> Well, then at the end of last meeting, [1:17:50] we were having issues with our camera. >> Yeah, I [1:17:53] » So, >> messed up the whole meeting. There's a [1:17:55] lot of money that's been laid out there thinking they were going to be there in [1:17:58] person. So, that's where I'm coming from. [1:18:06] So, wait, did Did you have any recommendations on the motion? [1:18:11] We good the way it is? I mean, [1:18:15] I think it's fine for what what you're wanting to do right now. I [1:18:20] think it it could always be worked a little bit, but [1:18:27] in essence, it covers the substantial completion date that September 30th [1:18:31] extends that to December 31st, and if there are any [1:18:36] issues, it be re-addressed at that time. [1:18:42] So, go ahead and use it. [1:18:45] Take this with >> I think it's fine. [1:18:48] » Okay, I would entertain the motion based upon the recommendation of the planning [1:18:53] and zoning director and approval as to form by the county attorney [1:18:58] to authorize and direct the chairman of the Coffee County Commission [1:19:02] to sign the letter of extension to extend the existing contract with [1:19:07] Marvin Planning Consultants to complete Coffee County's comprehensive plan and [1:19:12] estimate to be substantially complete on or before December 31st, 2026. [1:19:20] » I'll make a motion. [clears throat] I'll second that. [1:19:22] » Okay, Curry moved. >> Thompson seconded. [1:19:26] » Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. [1:19:30] » Aye. >> Any opposed? Passes 5-0. [1:19:34] » Okay, I'll go ahead and make that correction on the letter and [1:19:38] then we'll bring it back up to the next meeting. [1:19:41] Thank you. >> Thank you, lady. [1:19:59] All right. [1:20:02] Well, we have a few things to [1:20:06] or community assistance block grant. [1:20:16] » Okay, everything that I've got is going to be going that way. [1:20:23] » She's not on the Did she back out or is it [1:20:28] Yeah. >> Yes, she's there. [1:20:30] » 10:50 That's the part your [1:20:33] » Right after Heidi. >> Oh, it's not on the end of the bar. [1:20:37] » Oh, on the screens? >> Yeah. [1:20:38] » Okay. >> Oh. [1:20:41] No. [1:20:53] » She saw it on earlier. I don't know what happened. [1:20:56] She said it's on the speeder. >> I'll put it [1:21:00] » It's on the printer. >> Yeah. [1:21:05] » It was on the one I looked at last night. [1:21:08] » On the internet? >> It was. [1:21:11] » That's what I thought. [1:21:37] » It's fascinating. >> Yeah, it was on the [1:21:43] What's that last night? [1:21:47] » [clears throat] [1:21:57] » Do you want me to call Amelia to come on up? [1:22:00] » If she can come up earlier, that would be fine. [1:23:09] » The number you have dialed [1:23:28] » How are you doing, Tony? >> Best day ever. [1:23:31] » All right. [1:23:34] » How about you? >> Same. [1:23:37] » There you go. [1:23:41] » Just gets better and better. >> So you [1:23:44] » All right, start. [1:23:49] » Second day of summer and for the next 4 or 5 days the highs [1:23:53] only going to be in the 70s. I've never seen it this cool in the [1:23:58] summer. [1:24:01] » But that's all right. 90 and 100 degree days are coming. [1:24:21] » Wait, and you are running a bit ahead, so [1:24:28] So yeah, really if you want good [1:24:34] So do we have to actually meet as a uh board of health? [1:24:39] » Um >> For this or what do we [1:24:40] » I mean it's for our WIC um update agreement, so it's [1:24:46] the medical side that we have to do [1:24:50] » Do we officially need to do anything? I mean [1:24:53] As a board of health, do we need to officially go in and [1:24:56] » I suppose you probably should. >> Okay. [1:24:58] » Um yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't have that [1:25:01] ready. I didn't read that. [1:25:05] And here's the I know that it was sent over, but [1:25:09] I did highlight the changes on the handout. [1:25:12] » Okay. >> You're welcome. [1:25:16] » Hey, we're going to I will move to [1:25:20] » Convene at 4:35, right? [1:25:23] » Yeah. Yeah. [1:25:26] I would move to convene as a board of health [1:25:32] at [snorts] 10:36 a.m. [1:25:37] I'll second. Okay. I move to 10:36. [1:25:41] Any discussion? All in favor? Say aye. [1:25:45] » Aye. >> Any opposed? [1:25:47] Passes 5-0. Okay. [1:25:49] » I have a >> We are adjourned. [1:25:51] » And I thank you for taking the time to meet today. Um so, I went ahead and [1:25:56] printed off our previous one from 2022. So this is our WIC um Women, Infants, [1:26:01] and Children program agreement. So currently [1:26:05] Ryan County Care Arc, um they are the I guess you could call parent for the [1:26:11] county, so they do all of the federal, the primal, the reporting, and all that [1:26:14] in our region. So that's the current Kids as Great [1:26:17] Start Management System. Um They have been managing our WIC [1:26:21] clients for over 20 years. They just have to have an updated [1:26:25] agreement every so often. Our last agreement was from 2022 to 2023. So [1:26:30] that's the first attachment and I did highlight the changes. [1:26:34] Some of our responsibilities have changed. [1:26:38] We are no longer billed by hours for the monthly registered dietitian [1:26:44] expense. So that comes directly from the WIC funds that they receive. So we're no [1:26:49] longer billed that. We [1:26:54] no longer have to employ a registered nurse for them to do like the heights [1:26:59] and the weight once we move to the health department basically [1:27:02] the nurses well. And then we no longer have to employ the [1:27:07] clerical person. So that would be like the check-in [1:27:10] individual. The ones that will distribute the cards. [1:27:15] The ones that work. And then we no longer have to reimburse [1:27:20] for their fiscal officer's time. That's all from their um [1:27:25] grant funds as well. And then same with the registered [1:27:28] dietitian. We'll put it on their grant. [1:27:32] So the second one is the actual updated agreement. [1:27:37] So this one is presented to you guys to make sure you guys don't have any [1:27:39] questions or concerns and for authorization to go ahead and sign the [1:27:44] agreement. So I'll turn it back over. [1:27:48] And that will be for 2026 to 2027 grant cycle. [1:28:00] And the reason why we haven't held the WIC [1:28:05] program within Coffee County, why it's contracted out to Glynn County is just [1:28:09] because the registered dietitian portion. [1:28:12] Um for the individuals who need recertified [1:28:16] or initial certification for WIC services, um there has to be a [1:28:20] registered dietitian that performs those assessments. [1:28:24] And unfortunately, we are a rural community and lack [1:28:29] um the availability of registered [1:28:31] dietitians. [1:28:36] But they do come on site. Um there was a little bit of a funding [1:28:42] um shortage on the federal side. They did cut funds [1:28:46] temporarily um in 20 25, so they did have to do them [1:28:51] virtually, but they are back on site doing the services. [1:28:56] Any questions? >> This has worked out well in the past? [1:29:00] » Oh, yeah, absolutely. [1:29:04] » Any other questions? [1:29:08] I don't know if we can approve this. >> It's like something we need. [1:29:12] » Yes. >> Do you have an idea about how many [1:29:14] people this serves in our county? >> Um I do not, but I can get those numbers [1:29:19] for this year and send it over to you guys. [1:29:29] I mean I I'm not even going to give you an [1:29:31] estimate because we don't see all of the patients. So typically, whenever they [1:29:34] come in for their WIC appointments, they come upstairs to see us for their [1:29:37] immunization appointment. >> Yeah. [1:29:39] Okay. >> Yeah. [1:29:40] » Just kind of curious. >> Yes, I can get those numbers. [1:29:43] » Pretty substantial, though, I would guess. [1:29:45] » Um I think you guys would be surprised on [1:29:48] the numbers. [1:29:51] They're They're pretty busy down there. >> Yeah. [1:29:53] I mean, I would Yeah. [1:29:57] All right. I will I will move to approve the Women, Infant, Children Program [1:30:03] Agreement {slash} budget between Care Arc and Emporia and the Coffee County [1:30:08] Health Department effective October 1, 2026 [1:30:14] through September 30, 2027 to ensure that the eligible citizens of [1:30:20] Coffee County are provided with wick services. [1:30:24] I'll second. >> Kevin Drawl seconded. [1:30:28] » I move and can't drawl second. >> Any discussion? [1:30:33] All in favor say aye. >> Aye. [1:30:35] » Anybody oppose? >> Passes 5-0. [1:30:39] » So that is approved. >> All righty, we get a copy of that [1:30:43] agreement once it's fully executed. >> Sure. [1:30:49] Give it to Angie at least. >> Okay, sounds good. [1:30:52] » Okay, so you don't have anything else as far as Board of Health? [1:30:56] » No, nothing else. [1:30:59] » Okay, well I will I will move to adjourn as a [1:31:02] Board of Health at 10:42 a.m. and reconvene as a Board of County [1:31:08] Commissioners. I'll second that. [1:31:11] » Okay, Commissioner Thompson seconded. >> Uh any discussion? All in favor say aye. [1:31:17] » Aye. >> Passes 5-0. [1:31:20] Okay. >> All right, that's all I have for today. [1:31:22] Thank you for your time. >> All right, thank you very much. [1:31:24] Appreciate you coming out. >> Thank you. [1:31:29] » Okay. [1:31:34] So let's continue here. You guys are still signing and stuff, [1:31:38] right? Let's continue here. [1:31:41] » [clears throat] [1:31:46] » You know what I mean? [1:31:54] Clayton, are you still working on the water software thing? [1:31:59] » I'm working on it. Yes. Um so what I've suggested [1:32:03] Tom is going to get a copy of the [1:32:09] room where this particular water softener will be placed, so they have [1:32:15] what what it looks like in that room. And then there was a brochure that River [1:32:21] City sent out when I ordered one of the requests to [1:32:26] them from whoever this entity was. So attach that that brochure, the design [1:32:34] plan, and then keep everything else the same. Bring that back. [1:32:39] Update the notice, and then those will be the documents that will be available [1:32:43] to anybody who wants to request information. That way [1:32:50] it's fair across the board. That seems to be [1:32:53] internally consistent with what some of the requests were for. What does that [1:32:58] room look like? What what space is available? I don't know how big these [1:33:02] things are, but maybe that makes a difference in what what they'll put as [1:33:07] part of their bid. And then the scope of what [1:33:10] the brochure is that is kind of the design [1:33:16] for these water softeners. I don't know what else to do. [1:33:24] So he's working on that right now. >> Okay. [1:33:35] » Are you all done signing? [1:33:38] » I have everything I need and I'm done. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [1:33:42] » Well, [1:33:47] I want to do round table real quick before we do budget work session. [1:33:55] Thank you. Do you have to say for round table? [1:34:01] I'm just handing these out. The uh [1:34:05] Coffee County Cancer Support Group came by my office. I think they [1:34:09] thought they were on the agenda for today. [1:34:12] I indicated to them, and this is maybe me speaking out of turn. [1:34:20] I was already providing some diversion money to the Cancer Support Group. [1:34:25] Um >> [clears throat] [1:34:26] » I think nobody will deny it's a noteworthy cause and and group, the [1:34:30] effort that they uh [1:34:32] put forward. But, if [1:34:35] my understanding is correct from what you've indicated previously, that that's [1:34:39] not a good utilization of taxpayer money. [1:34:43] Diversion money is not taxpayer money, and that's why I [1:34:47] contribute to them. Um [1:34:50] so, she wanted me to hand these out to each [1:34:54] of you. This is matters for you to do with. Do with it what you what you want. [1:34:59] » Okay. [1:35:04] All right. Thanks. Anything else? [1:35:08] » I actually got a couple things. >> What? [1:35:12] » Well, so one one is on the North property. [1:35:17] » Uh-huh. >> I have the as I indicated last week, I [1:35:20] have the completed uh three-person appraisal [1:35:25] appraiser opinion of value, which includes not only the residence, but the [1:35:30] uh agricultural property, and then that final figure. [1:35:34] That has not been provided to each of you. [1:35:38] Uh and that's done intentionally. The only thing that [1:35:41] you've seen so far is the agreement that contemplated what the scope of work was. [1:35:47] Just And that's for those two out there as well. [1:35:52] What we're waiting on was the completed full appraisal from Jeff Clark, which I [1:35:56] received on either Friday or Saturday. I can't remember which one. It It's [1:36:02] probably 30 30 pages, maybe. Maybe just a little bit [1:36:07] less than that. That That has been completed. So, [1:36:12] now we're at the stage where you need to figure out how you want to [1:36:17] move forward. Um [1:36:21] You You probably need to consider setting a a reserve then [1:36:26] um because I have the advantage of having the the documents to [1:36:30] to talk about, I think, for [1:36:34] purposes of setting sort of the structure on how you want to [1:36:39] move forward. You may consider [1:36:44] uh It It may be something that we need to [1:36:47] talk about as a consultation with with your [1:36:51] attorney to move forward. We don't have to do that right now. You can maybe chew [1:36:56] on that and then from there, [1:36:59] all of the all of the information at some point will have to be disclosed. [1:37:04] But, right now, so that somebody does not have a competitive advantage to move [1:37:09] forward, um because that [1:37:13] you want this to be just like anything else and you've done this before. [1:37:18] You go back in time when you were uh [1:37:22] selling other property, you came up with a [1:37:25] a a a figure [1:37:28] and that figure, for for this purpose, you need to set up [1:37:34] your your reserve and you don't want that reserve [1:37:38] disclosed publicly because if all you're going to do is set a reserve and do it [1:37:42] publicly, then you might as well just say here's what what your figure is [1:37:46] because if it goes out to an auction or on the market, then [1:37:51] somebody already knows what your what your bottom line is. So, that that's [1:37:56] sort of the the point of that, but you need to know [1:37:59] sort of what you're working with and what you have uh regarding these [1:38:03] appraisals. The appraisal is [1:38:07] a benefit to you as a board so that it doesn't look [1:38:10] like from the outside looking in, maybe it will anyways, I don't know, [1:38:15] um that you just pulled a number out of the [1:38:17] air. It actually is a number that has been that is by professionals in that [1:38:23] industry who uh came up with the those numbers. So, [1:38:27] then somebody wants to assign blame or scrutiny to you later on down the road, [1:38:32] then it's [1:38:34] the [clears throat] these are figures that are used in the courtroom. These [1:38:37] are figures that are reasonable and uh would withstand that that scrutiny if it [1:38:44] comes. Benefit to the board, so that's it. [1:38:48] That's number one. Number two, I have two [1:38:52] um executive sessions that I need to [1:38:55] request. One is I need to provide you an update [1:39:00] regarding ongoing litigation against the county. [1:39:04] Um that's number one. Number two [1:39:08] would be similar except for in case potential litigation against the county. [1:39:13] And those are two issues that I'm not going to talk about [1:39:18] in the open. You need to be um advised of what what's happening [1:39:22] regarding each scenario. >> I will. [1:39:27] » This one e- each of them 10 minutes. >> Before we do that, real quick, can she [1:39:33] call? Do you have enough [1:39:37] update on uh wholesale 12? >> Yeah, I think [1:39:40] » It's short update. >> Okay, it has to be long. [1:39:43] » Yeah, I have to be. You want [1:39:45] » give that to us real quick before we move into this other stuff. Maybe also [1:39:49] » Um last Wednesday I went up and took her letter took letter up to him [1:39:54] talked to him and it was it was very well received. Um they have the same [1:39:59] basic philosophy that we do we need to secure water out of Mountain Reservoir [1:40:03] for the to secure future public water supply 12 in the region. [1:40:08] They're very much willing to press forward. They're in the middle [1:40:11] they want to send a letter back with support uh for a mutual meeting. [1:40:16] Richard Hines their lawyer will be reaching out to Wade to talk about the [1:40:19] legal issues we need to get worked out. The only worry they have is the same one [1:40:23] we did is making sure that we all agree on the verbage so no uh future [1:40:27] commission or board water board have to worry about what we've done. [1:40:32] So but it was it was terrifically received. So [1:40:35] uh they did receive a little update as far as what it would look like the [1:40:38] general outline from Men West and Engineering. Uh I'll [1:40:42] be working with Jenny to work with them to bring them the information back up so [1:40:46] we can give you that same same information so people see we can keep [1:40:50] everybody on the same page. Any questions? [1:40:54] » Very good. >> Oh no it was it was terrific. It was [1:40:58] really up beating. >> I appreciate the update. [1:41:02] » [clears throat] >> Thank you. [1:41:03] » Thanks Carl. [1:41:07] » Okay. [1:41:10] Move back to executive session. You said 10 minutes, right? [1:41:15] » 10 minutes for each. >> I would entertain a motion to enter into [1:41:20] executive session uh for 10 minutes to include each of the [1:41:25] commissioners and county council at Wade who second [1:41:29] to discuss matters deemed privileged in the attorney-client relationship [1:41:34] regarding legal advice uh regarding ongoing litigation against [1:41:39] county under the Kansas Open Meetings Act [1:41:42] KSA 75-4319 B2 [1:41:48] and to resume in the commission chambers at [1:41:53] uh 11:05. [1:41:56] So >> Second. [1:41:58] » Parker moved. >> McCrary seconded. [1:42:03] » Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. [1:42:06] » Aye. >> May oppose? [1:42:08] » Passes 5-0. So we return at 11:05. [1:42:19] » And I'm just making you give us some I'll just make you give us a couple [1:42:22] minutes more. >> Oh, okay. [1:42:24] » Yeah, good idea. [1:42:28] » No action taken following that executive session. [1:42:34] We'll get a enter I'd entertain a motion to enter into executive session for 10 [1:42:39] minutes to include each of the commissioners and [1:42:42] county counselor Wade Due II to discuss matters deemed privileged in the [1:42:46] attorney-client relationship regarding legal advice [1:42:51] uh regarding potential leak litigation against county under Kansas Open [1:42:56] Meetings Act KSA 75-4319 B2 [1:43:02] to resume in the county in the commission chambers at [1:43:09] » 11:18 >> 11:19 [1:43:14] 11:19 >> I'll move. [1:43:17] » Oh, did you move? >> No, I I moved. [1:43:20] » So McCrary moved, Parker seconded. Any discussion? [1:43:25] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye. [1:43:26] » May oppose? >> Passes 5-0. [1:43:34] » Yes, at 11:19. [1:43:50] » Back in open session. No action taken [clears throat] [1:43:54] following that executive session. [1:44:06] Do you have anything else on the round table waiting for me to do? [1:44:10] » I I think [clears throat] we may >> [cough] [1:44:13] » after a while may go ahead and do the attorney client [1:44:19] concern up north. [1:44:22] » Okay. I'm going to go and [1:44:25] see if I can get the documents from Palm on the [1:44:28] the water softener so that can can re-advertised. [1:44:34] And just so you know, I mentioned last week the issue regarding the the air [1:44:40] handler and actuators and updates. The estimate came in under $10,000. [1:44:49] So [1:44:51] I plan on going ahead and giving the green light [1:44:55] to to make that happen. Otherwise, if you don't do that [1:45:02] somewhere in the very near future is a $250,000 [1:45:06] uh replacement and this [clears throat] will extend the life of what you have [1:45:10] currently. So [1:45:13] » That's good. [1:45:18] » Okay. Tom, do you have anything? >> Yeah, um [1:45:22] I think this is doing budgets and stuff and everything. I [1:45:25] would like some time maybe guys are in and care or anything. [1:45:30] An update from the jail and sheriff's department on how [1:45:34] much money we're taking out of the federal prisoners. That was supposed to [1:45:37] offset and then on the bond issue, see where we're at. [1:45:41] What we're going to have to decide to come up with money for payment if [1:45:45] anything's being made towards that yet. [1:45:50] Just being updated a little bit on that. Kind of help us [1:45:54] I was thinking about that last week myself and [1:46:01] Well, I mean since he switched switched to Benchmark, wasn't that just to save [1:46:07] quite a bit of money? the kitchen. Yeah. [1:46:09] » Yeah. >> Yeah, there was a lot of money [1:46:12] » [clears throat] >> Yeah, that's $13 a meal that [1:46:17] every or whatever it was. I had those figures. [1:46:20] Yeah, so. [1:46:27] » All right. >> You got anything on the top? [1:46:30] » I think that's all I got. >> All right, okay. [1:46:32] » Uh only thing I've got, uh Darren did get back with me and the tenant at the [1:46:37] airport is willing to go ahead and lease that at the rate. I don't know if we may [1:46:41] have to get more definite definite acreage. 25 to 55 acres was his initial [1:46:47] thought. So, when we get that, I suppose we'll need [1:46:50] to give those something in the contract as [1:46:53] far as [1:46:56] Just what I had in mind. That's all I got. [1:47:01] » Okay. >> Mike? [1:47:03] Only thing I really got was same thing kind of Wade's talking about the [1:47:07] airport, that industrial park and then Heidi said it's progressing pretty good, [1:47:11] the platting of it. Um here's She talked to me [1:47:16] a couple weeks ago and [1:47:20] apparently the architect or engineer, whoever plotting it out wanted to name [1:47:25] for that subdivision. So, I think preliminarily [1:47:30] the name Prairie Grass Industrial Park was established for that little airport. [1:47:37] And then she hit me up last week about naming the road because she had asked [1:47:41] name for the road so EOC could issue calls addresses for each one of them. [1:47:47] And I sent her back a suggestion of Meadowlark Street or Meadowlark Lane. [1:47:54] » Would it tie Could it tie into Meadow? >> Or to Meadowlark Lane? [1:47:57] » It doesn't have >> So, I didn't know if you [1:48:00] » It's [clears throat] small. >> Yeah. [1:48:03] » Yeah, that one's over to the east, so. >> But it sounds like it's progressing [1:48:08] pretty good. That ought to be It'll be pretty quick. [1:48:10] » Good. >> So. [1:48:12] » Cuz this has been going on for like a about a year. [1:48:15] » About a year. >> Yeah. [1:48:17] » Good deal. >> Yeah. [1:48:18] » Good. >> Yeah, it's almost the park will have [1:48:20] legal descriptions for those building sites and [1:48:23] » Good. >> an official industrial park. [1:48:25] » Good. >> So. [1:48:26] » By the county. >> And we've got some infrastructure [1:48:28] already out there, so that's a good thing. [1:48:30] » Yeah, he's working towards the water. >> Yeah. Yep, that's the next big obstacle. [1:48:36] » Okay. >> Sounds good. [1:48:38] » Steve? >> Yeah, the only thing I've got I've [1:48:41] » [clears throat] >> I would like to make a motion to appoint [1:48:46] Jody Thomas to fill the position [1:48:50] » Oh, I'm sorry. Let me guess somebody else. [1:48:53] » She just left. She just left. [1:48:59] » She does >> Poke your head in there and see if [1:49:02] » And she's from >> Are any of them [1:49:04] » I don't know. >> Somebody that [1:49:06] Everything good? Has keyboarding skills like I talked about. [1:49:19] » [clears throat] >> Thank you. [1:49:23] » That's all right. >> I'm sorry, Andy. [1:49:24] » That's all right. >> [clears throat] [1:49:28] » Steve has a motion he wants to make. >> I'd like to make a motion to appoint [1:49:33] Jody Thomas to the position of [1:49:41] Coffee County Hospital Board to fill or to uh fill out the position [1:49:47] » on the expired term. >> On that expired term as of 12/31/26. [1:49:54] Does that sound right? I posted it online. [1:49:59] » I think so. >> On expired term. [1:50:04] » As of 12/31/26. >> Yes. [1:50:09] Immediately. >> Yes. [1:50:11] So, what is that? 6 months? Yeah, that's 6 months roughly. [clears throat] [1:50:14] » On an expired term. [1:50:18] Expiring [1:50:22] 12/31/26. Oops. [1:50:26] Okay, we're good. >> Expired December 31st, 2026. [1:50:36] And that's the only one open on that board, isn't it? [1:50:38] » Yeah, that That'll That'll come back. So. [1:50:41] » And that's forward. >> Last 6 years. [1:50:43] » So, you're making I'll second that. [1:50:45] » Oh, yes. Yes, wait. >> I'll I'll second. [1:50:57] » Days so. [1:51:01] Any discussion on that motion? [1:51:06] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye. [1:51:08] » Anybody oppose? Passes [1:51:17] Now, that's all I got. Have we [1:51:21] officially been notified about the planning board? [1:51:25] » Yeah. >> So, we got around this way. [1:51:27] » a letter of resignation. I guess that's [1:51:30] what pushed by them. >> [clears throat] [1:51:33] » Okay, so we have one vacancy again on the planning board. [1:51:39] » And there's a new [1:51:41] applicant. >> Applicant. [1:51:42] » I got paid also this week. >> Yeah. [1:51:45] » I say see if we can interview the applicant next next meeting. [1:51:49] » Okay. >> And uh [1:51:54] That's what we [1:51:56] Cuz I don't see any reason to go out [1:52:02] advertise any longer on that cuz that's already been out quite a bit. [1:52:06] » Yes, it's been out there a while. >> We did interview two other people plus [1:52:11] we'll have one next week. If anybody else applies between now and [1:52:16] then. [1:52:24] Anything else, Steve? >> No, I don't have anything else. [1:52:26] » Um I don't have anything additional to add. [1:52:33] Wade is uh [1:52:38] trying to gather up something so we can make a motion on the water softener [1:52:42] again and then probably also [1:52:47] discuss something more further. >> But in the meantime, we can look at [1:52:51] budget stuff, I guess. Oh, Angie, I never asked you if you had [1:52:56] any ideas. >> Um I don't believe I do right now. Uh [1:53:05] We are missing a few budgets, not very many, but um one of the [1:53:09] hardest. So I don't know if we submitted those, but [1:53:12] we'll just do what we can and and we'll [1:53:17] make sure that we get any changes or whatever. [1:53:22] And I can mark things down. >> How about the [1:53:29] Oh, hopefully Andy, do you have anything you want to [1:53:32] say? Any comments? [1:53:34] » Sure. [1:53:37] And you made notes. >> Oh, you actually have something? [1:53:40] » Yes. >> I was just going to I just thought since [1:53:43] you're there, I'd ask. >> Okay. [1:53:45] » Sorry. >> It's all right. [1:53:46] » Yes, you like Mark Twain said, "If you get what you ask for, you might get it." [1:53:51] » Yeah, so what you got? >> I'm just going to go back to [1:53:54] having been a recent recent patient out here at the hospital and also worked a [1:53:59] few years in health care. The billing question thing we were talking about uh [1:54:04] I was reading the paper the other night and there were like four [1:54:09] columns of 10 filings in the court system for overdue [1:54:14] bills. That's the >> [clears throat] [1:54:16] » a hassle that every small hospital that I ever worked at, which was Concordia, [1:54:20] Parsons, Iola, everybody has that issue. So that's part [1:54:26] of what they're fighting with the billing problems there is that they have [1:54:30] a whole bunch of self-pay, no-pay people. [1:54:34] You know, I had my stuff done in really April and [1:54:40] already have my bill and they were very helpful at the [1:54:43] billing office. So I was surprised because I'd heard yes, all the stories [1:54:48] about it that I needed to set up a payment system since with no income I I [1:54:53] couldn't get paid check for a while. But but they were very helpful and got me [1:54:59] with the people I needed to be. So I think things are better, they're not [1:55:02] perfect by any means, but uh I think there's been a lot of improvement with [1:55:07] the current CFO billing system. I the bill, when I look at it, it's [1:55:14] doesn't provide a lot of information that I'd like to see there as a previous [1:55:18] practitioner, but as far as details >> Details, yes. [1:55:21] » He They talked about that the last meeting I went to, and if you were to [1:55:26] call up there and speak correctly, they will give you a MRI [1:55:30] » I didn't get a bill >> Right. [1:55:31] » I found a request, yes, that's right. [clears throat] [1:55:34] » But most bills most bills will have that detail in it and you don't have to go [1:55:39] making extra efforts to track them down, but uh [1:55:43] good point though. Okay. Um so >> And that was And that was brought up at [1:55:47] the last meeting on on on the Catholic board [1:55:50] » The board meeting, yeah. >> Yeah. [1:55:52] » Good. Okay. Yeah, that was where my only thoughts as a follow-up of my speaking [1:55:57] for myself like Steve, you know, having dealt directly with [1:56:00] » And I said St. Luke's and I realize that's a larger hospital, but I I guess [1:56:03] my point was was that if if it's like that, it seems like in every [1:56:09] » Every All hospitals >> All hospitals [1:56:11] » In the smaller hospitals in general, all suffer with a high number of people with [1:56:15] no insurance. >> Yeah. [1:56:17] » And you know, I worked for about 8 and 1/2 years helping at a clinic up in [1:56:20] Shawnee Kansas. You know, you think of Johnson County as [1:56:23] affluent >> Uh with the [1:56:25] » as it is, a clinic it is still there. I'm just not there. [1:56:29] Um that was for people with no or poor insurance. For $40 a visit, they could [1:56:35] come in and see a practitioner for health care. And And but they had to [1:56:39] pay, you know, had to pay the bill. >> Because if you go into emergency room, I [1:56:43] mean >> You're looking at $1,000 or more or more [1:56:46] or several thousand. >> And they've got And they've got to [1:56:49] They've got to take care of that person. >> Yeah, they have Yeah, because of the [1:56:52] HIPAA requirements and all of the you know, you've got to provide care or you [1:56:56] can't turn HIPAA away. Anything else? Well, that was my [1:56:59] » of the things I thought of. >> Okay. [1:57:02] Careful what you ask for. That's >> Thank you. [1:57:05] » Yeah, Mark. >> I'm kidding. [1:57:08] » No, he was just making us aware She [1:57:13] She went and talked to him before the meeting and and he is making [1:57:19] some kind of determination that non-taxpayer funds [1:57:24] » Okay. >> So, going through this budget stuff. [1:57:32] » So, on the wage increase you guys did not [1:57:36] We you had it in there last year, but we took it out because we were trying to [1:57:40] get reduced [1:57:42] » Okay. >> things down. So, I went ahead and put it [1:57:44] back in but you can remove it if you choose. [1:57:48] So, that's why it's back there. [1:57:54] » But that has to come from somewhere, so >> Right. [1:57:58] » Is that something we want to wait for a draft to come through with her study? [1:58:04] They'll come They'll They'll probably be after the auditor, so [1:58:08] So, we'll be doing the audit doing the budget stuff before the draft. [1:58:13] » Okay. >> We'll just have to anticipate I don't [1:58:16] think it'll make that big a difference anyway. [1:58:20] So, the commission and nothing in the spring [1:58:22] » I reduced it a little bit just because I'm looking at [1:58:28] what happened then. I felt like I could take it off a little bit. [1:58:31] » Okay. >> If you want to put the wage the same [1:58:34] » Yeah, so we're [1:58:38] we're down, so >> That's good. [1:58:43] » Any questions on the commissioner part of it? [1:58:49] » This is for general wage increases. >> That's just for the budget for missions, [1:58:55] including all the other stuff you see there, but [1:59:00] advertisements, fuel, [1:59:04] uh [1:59:07] lodging, leases, personal services after the year. [1:59:12] » [clears throat] >> Wages, training expense. [1:59:16] We don't have a whole lot. [1:59:22] JSD [1:59:26] So, that's up a thousand. [1:59:30] » Yeah. [1:59:35] » I assume a lot of that has to do because of [1:59:41] number three. Maybe insurance costs. [1:59:44] » Insurance. >> Uh insurance. [1:59:47] » Utilities, maybe. I don't know. [1:59:51] » We're planning to replace some fixtures and do garage door work in [1:59:55] 2027. [2:00:12] Any questions there or anything? [2:00:20] » And Jay, I think I asked you sometime about the utilities. [2:00:24] When was the uh I mean uh >> Oh. [2:00:28] Oh. >> Uh [2:00:30] » Didn't I give that to you already? >> The evaluation? [2:00:34] » The evaluations on on utilities. >> That just came out not long ago, didn't [2:00:37] it? >> Yeah, I thought I gave it [2:00:38] » I'll get it to you. >> Maybe I didn't. I'm sure I did. [2:00:41] » I I I haven't seen it. >> You know? [2:00:44] » Uh >> I could have just all We have them. [2:00:48] » Oh, wait. Okay. I didn't know if that was later on. [2:00:50] » 1st. >> Do you have your season then? [2:00:52] » Oh, yeah. Um and I think Bruce I don't know. [2:00:57] I think we just kept on rolling. >> [clears throat] [2:01:02] » Yeah, that's what I was [2:01:05] » Um >> I couldn't remember if it came out the [2:01:07] last year or >> Well, it's [2:01:10] » July. >> When you first put in the position and [2:01:13] Casey, I think we might have missed getting that for the first time. [2:01:18] No big deal, though. [2:01:28] » So, in the clerk's office, yeah, the increase $4,100. [2:01:34] » Yeah. [2:01:37] » Is there anything specific on that? >> No, just [2:01:42] any increases or steps or >> salaries. [2:01:45] » Yeah. [2:01:51] » Any questions, sir? [2:02:01] Election department. [2:02:05] » So, I just want you to know that not next year, but the year after [2:02:14] our software for our election system is going to increase dramastically. [2:02:21] Our our contract we've had with ES&S has been in place for a number of years and [2:02:27] we were informed that that is going to be expiring. [2:02:31] So, we will see some big numbers coming for [2:02:35] that. And the the state covered a lot of the cost last time, but now they're [2:02:39] going to be putting it on us. [2:02:42] » For 27 or for 28? >> Uh 28. So, [2:02:46] I just [clears throat] want to kind of just put it in your mind [2:02:48] » Sure. So, no state help? [2:02:51] » Not Not I don't know if we'll get any at all. [2:02:55] If we do, it will be very minimal. [2:03:09] » And then precinct is just basically personnel. [2:03:14] The personnel services on the election in the end. [2:03:25] Any questions, sir? [2:03:29] » Yeah, you're good. >> Treasurer. [2:03:41] Election precinct there [2:03:48] How do you do this quicker? Pay that balance. [2:04:01] 10,816. [2:04:09] I got 12,660. [2:04:14] The last year's budget. >> 11,000. [2:04:18] » 12,660. >> On the treasurer? [2:04:23] » Yes. >> Last year's 370s 716. [2:04:28] This year 381 576. >> I got 10,860. [2:04:34] » That's treasurer. >> 381 576. Okay, I'm I was having a little [2:04:39] moment with that. [2:04:52] » Contracts will actually went down. Capital outlay went down and personal [2:05:00] services went up so [2:05:06] » [clears throat] >> Any questions, sir? [2:05:12] » [snorts] [2:05:15] » We have Chamber of Commerce. [2:05:27] » Same. >> Same on that. [2:05:33] Well, what's it the same? >> Chamber. [2:05:35] » Yeah, 150 for the >> 150. [2:05:39] That's one with the The number was more last year but uh [2:05:46] I think it's the way they filled out the form. [2:05:48] » Yeah. [2:06:24] » Any questions on the Chamber? [2:06:28] » I mean we don't have a little Chamber set thing right now. [2:06:37] » Stephen, wait. [2:06:40] In the past, I just want to know that you were talking about the tourism and [2:06:46] part of that up to possibly five. >> In the past, it's some of the chamber [2:06:53] comes from tourism. [2:06:57] » Do you recall that? >> I'm sorry, I don't. [2:07:01] » But I mean, it wouldn't be a very big chunk if it did, but but I didn't know [2:07:05] if that [2:07:09] » Mark, I can't remember. Oh, well. It's just [2:07:13] Sorry. [2:07:16] Yes. [2:07:19] » [clears throat] >> Ask that what Ask that again. [2:07:23] » In In the past, I mean, several years ago, [2:07:26] I didn't know if part of the the chamber [2:07:32] budget budget some of the county funds. I didn't know if some of that came from [2:07:36] the bed tax. [2:07:42] » I don't know because the chamber just We just started supporting the chamber like [2:07:46] 2 years ago, 3 years 2 or 3 years ago. >> I can't uh [2:07:52] Yeah, I can't remember. >> Yeah, I don't want to [2:07:55] I don't want to take anything away from the tourism and you know, what I'm [2:07:59] getting cuz >> I think we're going down the right [2:08:02] direction. >> I agree with you on that right now. [2:08:05] » [clears throat] >> Mark, I can't remember. [2:08:07] » Okay. >> So, this [2:08:10] this year >> Up? [2:08:11] » Mhm. [2:08:15] » That's good to hear. >> Yeah, that's good to hear. [2:08:17] » Yeah. [2:08:19] » It had been down. [clears throat] >> It was [2:08:21] 3 years ago that it was >> dropped a big [2:08:24] » dropped a chunk. >> You a big chunk. [2:08:26] » Yeah. >> Okay, Kansas legal Sorry, I'm probably [2:08:30] way behind you guys, but legal services 500 increase. [2:08:35] That's probably a No problem. [2:08:39] » Yeah. >> That was tied [2:08:41] » Yeah. >> Anybody has any concerns? [2:08:44] » Yes. [2:08:48] » Are we Are we lacking the >> Yeah, we have those two. [2:08:53] » Oh, we're lacking Kaylee Kemp. >> He said [2:08:55] » Yeah, he said that he >> He doesn't do with him not about that, [2:08:58] but in the discussion he said he was about that at that time. [2:09:01] » Yeah. >> Okay. [2:09:03] Register of deeds. [2:09:09] » Yeah, I know she has an little bit of an increase. [2:09:14] So, there'll be some possible changes coming in that [2:09:17] area at some point. So. [2:09:20] » What Which one is that? >> 11. [2:09:22] » 11. 10,000. [clears throat] [2:09:25] 700. >> Yeah, that's right. [2:09:29] » Which is not huge in the magnitude. [2:09:33] All right, good. [snorts] [2:09:39] I would say that the majority of these increases are [2:09:42] personal services. >> Yeah. [2:09:53] » I might get that. [2:09:57] So, wellness program. [2:10:02] Yeah, this is wellness for this year. >> Okay, no. No. [2:10:08] We need to remove that one. There won't be one there. [2:10:11] » Okay. >> We had a department in general, we moved [2:10:14] it back to its own fund so Amelia could monitor that. So, that one will come [2:10:19] off. You You draw a line through that on your index. [2:10:22] » No. >> Yeah. [2:10:24] » And wellness number >> General family law. [2:10:26] » Chapter 12. >> [clears throat] [2:10:30] » The 13th District Court. [2:10:37] Municipal Court. >> Never good. [2:10:39] » Writ of habeas corpus. >> What? [2:10:43] » District Court you guys really can't do anything about. [2:10:57] » Thank you. >> Thank you, AJ. [2:10:58] » I gave you all >> All right. [2:11:00] » 25 and >> 26. Thank you. [2:11:02] » Now, you can see [2:11:09] » So, it went up about 23 million. >> Yep. [2:11:16] Nothing there. [2:11:32] Yeah. [2:11:35] » So, scratch 12 and >> Yeah. [2:11:43] » District Court. Mhm. [2:11:50] So, District Court >> went up $47. [2:11:54] » History $47. Yeah. [2:12:00] » That's non-qualifiable. [2:12:04] I don't have any more. [2:12:10] What is this? [2:12:13] Mhm. [2:12:19] » Okay. [2:12:26] » So this wing, this chapter you have asphalt, you have [2:12:31] equipment. There's three pages. [2:12:37] But there's like two budgets. And this is that extra [2:12:42] department in general that burden bridge uses for [2:12:49] » Asphalt unchanged. Oh, I guess that is. [2:12:53] Two and a half million. [2:12:58] Equipment maintenance 50,000. [2:13:20] It'll be okay with the asphalt and equipment. [2:13:25] I wouldn't send for you crazy here. We're not saying these are set in stone [2:13:30] that we're okay with. We're just looking at them. We're looking at them right [2:13:33] now. We have any questions or whatever. This [2:13:36] is the time that we're going to have some cuz everything seems to be going [2:13:39] up. >> Yeah. [2:13:40] » And we're going to have some questions or I'm going to have some questions on [2:13:45] » I'm keeping everything in mind. But the cost of doing business is not a [2:13:49] problem. I mean, D, I know that. [2:13:51] » Well, I'm just saying >> But I'm saying also we took a butt [2:13:54] kicking with the people about their increased prices. [2:13:57] » Of their taxes. >> I know that, but I'm just saying that [2:14:00] the cost of cost of doing business continues to [2:14:03] » I understand that. I'm not a dummy. >> I know that, Todd. I didn't say that. [2:14:10] » So well, basically, if we have any questions now on anything, then we'll go [2:14:14] ahead and go back. Well, bring bring them in here before the auditor comes on [2:14:19] the 13th of July. Try to get our answers [2:14:24] any questions we have answered before then. [2:14:27] And then then when we work with them, then we'll have to figure out [2:14:31] Hopefully hopefully we don't have to work too hard. [2:14:34] » And and it actually would be helpful if there's one you have a question on now, [2:14:38] I can mark it so we can go back to it. That would be [2:14:42] helpful because otherwise we're just you're kind of telling me [2:14:48] okay on this one, okay on this one. Doesn't mean it's set in stone cuz it's [2:14:52] not set in stone until the auditor gets here, but [2:14:54] » I see what you're saying. >> It would be helpful to say, "Ah, let's [2:14:57] call that in later." And then I'll mark it. [2:15:00] » Okay. >> So. [2:15:02] » Okay, courthouse budget. >> Okay. [2:15:06] So, last year I budgeted what I budgeted because we [2:15:11] were going to be paying for utilities and all kinds of things for the jail [2:15:16] or the law enforcement center out of this. [2:15:18] And based on where we're at as of May um is how I came up with my number for [2:15:25] 2027. Um [2:15:28] so that's that's how I came up with that. [2:15:34] » So So, the 82,000 over increase [2:15:40] » Yeah. [2:15:50] » When you said paying for the jail >> Right. We Yeah, cuz see, we started with [2:15:55] the brand new building and we had no history on how much it's [2:15:59] going to cost or anything to run. >> Mhm. [2:16:02] » So, we budgeted what we budgeted and based on how we've been running for the [2:16:07] past 5 months is I what I projected for the rest of [2:16:11] this year then to come up with a number for 2027. [2:16:15] » Got you. >> I'm at 15. [2:16:22] » Current house general. [2:16:25] » Mine I don't have any county support on this that the 82,000. [2:16:30] » No, no. It's the 1.8. >> 1.8? [2:16:33] » Yeah, it's the difference between last year and this year's budget. [2:16:41] » Last year was a guess and this is [2:16:49] » [clears throat] >> four months for the different ones. [2:17:02] I guess basically that one. It is what it is, I guess. [2:17:08] Cuz we didn't know last year for sure. >> Yeah, cuz last year was an unknown. [2:17:19] » Wellness [2:17:22] and >> and we gained [2:17:23] » Did it actually go down? >> Mhm. [2:17:35] » Angie, back up 15 there. >> Mhm. [2:17:39] » What else department? >> Yep. [2:17:40] » On that back page it's got insurance / loans $40,000. [2:17:48] Down there about halfway. >> Mhm. [2:17:53] » Is that actually a loan payment? >> I think that's what we put in there [2:17:57] for last year's budget. [2:18:01] Oh. [2:18:05] » Kind of goes back to what Tom mentioned a little bit about how much has been [2:18:08] received for the bond team which is going to be due for the jail. [2:18:12] » Right. Right. >> So. [2:18:15] » And these bonds for the jail and the courthouse were tied together or were [2:18:19] they separate? >> No. Uh the bonds for the jail should be [2:18:25] being paid out of the >> Sheriff's office. [2:18:27] » Sheriff's jail, yeah. >> But they were issued as separate bonds [2:18:30] or is it one? No, it's >> [laughter] [2:18:34] » Yeah, it's [clears throat] one. >> It's just the project that's in two [2:18:36] phases. >> Okay. [2:18:41] » Okay, that's what I was questioning if that 40 or so of bond for the jail or [2:18:44] » No, cuz that's going to be like a million dollars. [2:18:48] » And I had a question I asked Richard um a month or two ago [2:18:54] and I was concerned about the shortage of maybe revenue from the from [2:18:59] the inmates [2:19:01] and he said the amount of interest that was made on investments is [2:19:07] pretty good. So, I mean we ought to have some kind of cushion there. So, that's [2:19:10] going to help out. >> Yeah. [2:19:14] » It's good news. That's not to say in the future things I [2:19:19] mean they might start >> creating revenue. [2:19:22] » Yeah. >> Yeah. [2:19:23] » But I don't know where we stand for sure on the on the jail at the moment until [2:19:26] we get some better figures. >> I like what Tom mentioned earlier even [2:19:32] though deal with the the meals is going to be [2:19:36] » Yeah, but >> make a fair amount. [2:19:38] » I'm just curious how that's all going to shake out. [2:19:40] » Yeah. >> Yeah. [2:19:41] » Yeah. >> Should make a [2:19:44] » But well, speaking of this, I don't know if you need you guys to see the Anderson [2:19:48] County paper. I don't know what it's called. [2:19:52] The commissioner [clears throat] stepped up and said either close the jail [2:19:55] » Fill it or sell it. >> Yeah. so [2:19:58] if they shut it down, we're going to get some people there, but they were [2:20:02] complaining about all the new jails in the area. [2:20:06] » I read that. >> They were taking people in there for [2:20:09] places like that before. >> Yeah. [2:20:11] Is that a new jail over there? >> Mhm. [2:20:13] » No, they refurbished there. >> just refurbished it. [2:20:16] » Well, it's it's been like 10 or 15 years, I think, [2:20:20] but they >> Okay. I couldn't remember. There's so [2:20:22] many There's a lot There's a There's a lot of new jails [2:20:25] » going up around, but >> Yeah, but then they need some more. [2:20:28] » [laughter] >> Oh, that's bad. [2:20:31] But But But they were counting on inmates to help. [2:20:33] » Yeah, that's right. That's right. >> And now I don't think there's not as [2:20:36] many, so [2:20:39] is my understanding, anyway. [2:20:42] So, general capital outlay [2:20:47] at 50,000. >> Which way do you want? [2:20:50] » Uh Beach Haven, 17. [2:20:54] Is there a reason going up 50,000 on that? [2:20:57] » Um >> Just Just [2:21:03] » I'm not [2:21:06] sure. >> That just That just goes into the [2:21:10] capital improvement fund. >> No, it's in the general. So, like if [2:21:14] anything major to the building happens, that's where we pay generally out of the [2:21:18] general fund capital outlay. >> Okay. [2:21:21] » You put an asterisk by that one. >> Okay. [2:21:24] I'll put an asterisk I'll go back and review that one. [2:21:31] » I guess we'll If it's going in that fund though, then [2:21:36] at least we're not committing to spend it if that's right. [2:21:39] » Right. Right. No. >> It's only 50,000, too. [2:21:42] » Yeah. >> Cuz that fund is we depleted in the [2:21:44] » Is that fund that We depleted it somewhat. [2:21:47] » Yeah. Right. Right. >> Oh, yeah, it is. That's right. [2:21:51] » What? >> you for reminding me, Steve. [2:21:54] So, we [clears throat] used to budget like a [2:21:56] million something in this one, 1.25. >> For capital outlay, and then we would [2:22:02] transfer out to the capital improvement plan. [2:22:05] And I thought I would maybe increase it a little because you still need to fund [2:22:08] that plan. We've got to keep that that plan funded. [2:22:12] » Because that particular one has been deleted. [2:22:14] » Yes. >> So, [2:22:15] » Yeah. We didn't have it in 2025. You guys took it completely out because we [2:22:20] have >> trying to keep things down. [2:22:22] And then last year we put 750, and I thought, "Well, maybe I'll just bump it [2:22:26] up a little bit." And then that's what I >> are we doing in it as of now? [2:22:31] » As of the capital improvement plan? We're we're going to fall short if we [2:22:34] don't over the next few years keep trying to [2:22:37] put more money in there. Yeah, I've got I can pull that plan up. [2:22:41] » We're pretty close then. >> Yeah. [2:22:44] » [clears throat] >> Yeah. And I I've kind of planned it out [2:22:49] for 7 years instead of the five because I like to pull it up a little bit more [2:22:55] looking at that plan. >> Mhm. [2:22:58] » I don't know. I got I can pull it up here. [2:23:00] » Do you have this >> fund sheet? Did you have that still? [2:23:04] » [clears throat] >> Mhm. [2:23:06] » What's what in this one again? >> I haven't gotten to [2:23:09] » 5.7 or something. [2:23:13] » Yeah, there's [2:23:17] 5.7 and [2:23:27] that'll fund it for [2:23:43] still about 2028. That's 3 years. >> That's 5.7. [2:23:52] » So, we really need to focus on getting some money in there. [2:23:57] So, we're not even funded for 5 years right now. [2:24:07] » Okay, that's 19 [2:24:14] 16 Oh, 18. It was unchanged. Sorry. [2:24:24] Tech training equipment. [2:24:29] » Next one's Conroy 8. Conroy 80. >> Oh, that's what it is. That's what it [2:24:35] is. [2:24:50] Is this Conroy Associates [2:24:54] They've got somebody else in there now that's [2:24:58] that's managing but he's still [2:25:01] He just got He's still still uh He had that all in his own. [2:25:07] God, I think it's still ongoing. >> Okay. [2:25:09] » That There's new There's new uh [2:25:15] Conroy was acting [2:25:18] uh [clears throat] director there. [2:25:20] He's still the treasurer but they've got someone else in there that's that's [2:25:25] that's that's acting in there. Uh [2:25:42] » When you do this, they're requesting the same as last year. [2:25:45] » They're coming back to you guys, yeah. >> Yes, that's what I'm [2:25:49] interpreting so far. [2:25:54] » [clears throat] [2:25:57] » Without saying too much, I think that >> We're still playing some catch-up. [2:26:01] » It's in the process. >> It's in the process, so [2:26:04] I guess what I'm saying is that that budget appears to be on down here. [2:26:11] » Correct. I mean, it's Or that's my feeling on it. [2:26:18] » So [2:26:21] So there's several different requests within this, right? I mean, there's one [2:26:25] for each each of the senior centers, there's one for East Central [2:26:30] Kansas area aging senior on aging. >> Right. They [2:26:34] The Council on the Aging take the budget request from the [2:26:38] different entities, and then they present that as [2:26:43] » That one sheet on >> That one sheet on the back, and then [2:26:45] they disperse that and then they disperse that out to [2:26:49] » Each each individual >> Each individual. [2:26:52] Isn't that right, Andy? [2:26:54] » Yes. >> The aging [2:26:57] Council on the Aging is the main entity, and then they sub [2:27:01] They >> Well, we pay them that 50,500. [2:27:06] And then we pay Burlington >> Right. Right. Right. [2:27:15] » So which has them all totaled, the Central Kansas or is there something [2:27:19] else that has them totaled together? >> Uh it's the second page. [2:27:24] It's the second where she totaled all the [2:27:27] cities. And then [2:27:30] East Central is separate, so it's 50,500 and then the 68,455, which is a total of [2:27:36] 118,955. [2:27:39] » And I mean maybe I'm wrong. [2:27:57] Oh, 11. [2:28:07] 17 100,000 [2:28:12] 80,000 >> So, on the very front page is [2:28:17] uh has my name and Sewer Genie. And the second page shows county support [2:28:22] request. >> Right. [2:28:24] » And that's what we're looking at. Do you not have that? [2:28:28] » Yeah, there's a lot of pages in there. >> I know, cuz she put them all in there. [2:28:31] » That's the only one I've got. >> That's what? [2:28:34] » That's total money into the AG. It's not on there. [2:28:37] » No, that's that's just for the city. >> Senior centers. [2:28:40] » So, that's 68,055, exactly. [2:28:43] And then the last four pages in that packet is the Council on Aging [2:28:50] and Nutrition. [2:28:56] One's for 25,005 and one's for 25,000. >> Okay. [2:29:01] » And we gave the 50,500 to Ottawa. The East Central Aging. They they [2:29:08] distribute the food. >> Right. They distribute [2:29:10] » And there was an issue with the food a long time ago, so that's why it got [2:29:13] separated. [clears throat] >> I see. [2:29:15] Is this a Meals on Wheels program? >> Yes. [2:29:17] » Yes, and then the uh [2:29:19] what they uh they have a different uh [2:29:22] sites in the county and they'll pick up provide meals [2:29:27] this uh on specific days. [2:29:31] So, as far as the East Central Kansas Area Agency [2:29:43] Those budgets are unchanged from last year, right? The nutrition and the [2:29:49] » It looks like they did the same for us these two years. [2:29:53] Which surprising cost of groceries in there. [2:29:56] » But but looking at the [2:30:01] looking at the individual senior centers, I was [2:30:05] I'm having trouble I think there's some increases in there. [2:30:12] Minor increases if there are any. [2:30:19] Nearway, they increased 1,000. [2:30:26] Waverly increased [2:30:31] 13 to 1400. >> Yep. [2:30:46] » And they all seem to be modest increases anyway. [2:30:58] » Yep. [2:31:18] » Gridley stayed the same. [2:31:28] » [clears throat] [2:31:40] [clears throat] >> Yeah. [2:31:44] » It went up to $1,000. >> $1,000? [2:31:47] » $1,300 it was selling >> Yeah. [2:31:49] » About $1,300 selling it? [2:31:53] And utilities is the same? >> Um whatever it was the subject of the [2:31:57] email that said >> Okay. [2:32:02] And utilities looks like it's insurance and repairs and maintenance, exactly? [2:32:06] » Yeah. >> It's probably across the board that [2:32:10] would mean >> Yeah. [2:32:13] » And whatever it was that $1,300 [2:32:18] increase. [2:32:25] Utilities. [2:32:31] Do you want to discuss the interest? >> Yeah. [2:32:40] » Any questions on any of those? [2:32:53] And then you total these insurance and rent. [2:32:56] » I don't have utilities yet. Are you tracking that? Are you tracking [2:33:00] that now? >> As soon as you [2:33:01] » Oh, yeah. Okay. [2:33:08] » And then we move on to [2:33:14] number 10. Also, we don't have cost yet. [2:33:20] » No. >> And has she Have you been in contact [2:33:24] with her? >> Uh I emailed but I hadn't heard anything [2:33:27] so I'm going to reach out, call, or something. [2:33:31] » And she's uh [2:33:34] I see quite a bit on Thursday so >> Okay. [2:33:40] » What's she wanting to [2:33:48] She had called me last week. County Resource Council. [2:33:52] You don't have anything from them on this. [2:33:54] » Nope. I got to find out who I got to contact [2:33:57] on this. [2:34:01] » I found out seven months ago from the previous [2:34:11] Which one was that one? >> County [2:34:13] » Resource Council. Oh, well, we originally talked about Tasha. We don't [2:34:17] have anything from them. But, she's been trying to find out who to contact [2:34:22] on the County Resource Council. [2:34:26] I don't know if Janet Waltmire's a contact on that or not. [2:34:32] » Well, I was going to check with Waltmire's [2:34:35] office but she wasn't here the other day so [2:34:38] she might be here today. >> She's not here today. [clears throat] I [2:34:41] don't think they do anything anymore but [2:34:44] check. >> Yeah. [2:34:46] » Yeah. Um so, you don't have utilities [2:34:50] » Not yet. I just want to remind them about my [2:34:53] name. >> Juvenile Detention. [2:34:59] This is the same. >> Yep. [2:35:02] » Yep. [2:35:06] Your reports. [2:35:09] This is the same. Same as the last one. >> Yep. [2:35:12] » And then from two years ago. [2:35:18] Technology [2:35:27] » Who? You got a dollar? >> You got a dollar? [2:35:30] » No, down uh [2:35:33] » 21 >> Down 21 road. [2:35:35] » 21 road. >> Yeah. [2:35:36] » No. >> No, no, no, no. [2:35:38] » Hey, hey. >> Hey, don't short them there. [2:35:41] » Yeah. >> You need that cut to money. You might [2:35:44] need that for me. >> You adjusted to $1? [2:35:50] » Sure you can't get rid of that 20. [2:35:59] Uh Council for the Arts. [2:36:04] It's cuz it looks like they lost their longevity pay. [2:36:09] » You went from 2,400 >> to 600. [2:36:13] » Time out on that. >> Technology technology [2:36:17] » I'm going to step back for a minute and make a call. [2:36:19] » All right. [2:36:24] » Yeah, I believe it. [2:36:32] » Well, just adding some in there now, so [2:36:36] and they don't have a new one spinning around there after [2:36:38] » Right. [2:36:42] » Council for the Arts had an increase 3,000. [2:36:46] » Great. >> Yeah. [2:36:49] » 6 [2:36:54] Professional expenses bringing performers, events, and activities to [2:36:59] the communities received an increase in charges due to [2:37:03] the world's economy together tariffs [2:37:07] goods and services, which results in unwanted side [2:37:12] effects are seen in higher consumer prices. [2:37:18] Community stipends have remained the same for numerous years, [2:37:23] as has the funding awarded. Council for the elders, your [2:37:27] consideration of switches has been very much appreciated. [2:37:54] Any questions, Council for the elders? [2:38:27] Sheriff. [2:38:42] » [snorts] [2:39:03] » I mean 5 million. That's a quarter of a million [2:39:07] dollars. >> Okay. [2:39:30] » It's like most of those are personal services. [2:39:37] What's the budget for personal services? Is it 3%? [2:39:43] » How much for this year? >> Yeah. [2:39:46] » Um 2.896 >> I'm sorry? [2:39:48] » 2.896 >> What about for budget when they the [2:39:52] letter went out for budgeting for for next year? [2:39:58] Wasn't there something in the letter? >> 3.5%? [2:40:01] » What did it say? 3.5? >> 3 or 3.5 [2:40:05] One of the two, not both. >> I know that everybody has an increase in [2:40:10] personal services and I can't hardly remember. [2:40:12] » Yeah. [2:40:14] » What was told? >> Yes. [2:40:17] » So all the students will see increases this year. [2:40:29] Did we uh have to pay anything back from that vehicle on the highway that was [2:40:32] totaled? [2:40:36] » I don't know. >> Okay, thank you. [2:40:40] » I can find out. [2:40:44] » You know that was talked about paying for that vehicle and then getting [2:40:47] reimbursed. [2:43:06] » [snorts and clears throat] >> Do you want me to read it again? [2:43:09] » Vehicle repairs and maintenance. And then we got vehicle expenses. [2:43:15] And then we've also got vehicle tires and parts. [2:43:28] » Well, so when we sat when we had to break out [2:43:31] of these individual line items like this, [2:43:34] we tried to make line items that would fit for everyone. [2:43:39] And then we had departments come back and [2:43:43] say they wanted it named something else or wanted it to be something else that [2:43:47] they needed to see things listed out. So, that's why you're going to see some [2:43:52] of that. >> Just cuz we need it. Well, there's one [2:43:56] that says vehicle expenses $285,000. We got several others that seem to be [2:44:00] redundant and that's that's an increase of $285,000 plus another $40,000 plus [2:44:05] another $85,000. [2:44:09] » I don't disagree, but [2:44:28] » And commodities, is that groceries? >> Um [2:44:33] typically it's anything you can touch. [2:44:37] So, office chairs, uh office supplies, [2:44:42] things like that. What commodities generally are. [2:44:52] » 31 [2:45:17] » What's the difference between the two fuel? [2:45:21] Uh expenses. [2:45:24] » I got now. I have to ask them what they [2:45:28] I have to ask them if they have something else. [2:45:32] Different fuel usage, I don't know. I would have to ask them. [2:45:42] I guess they have like road fuel in one and something else on another, I don't [2:45:46] know. [2:45:52] I guess they got a bunch too. Question, so [2:45:57] » something this afternoon? [2:46:11] » Probably vehicle expenses, purchasing a vehicle and capital outlay. [2:46:16] That's capital outlay. And then you have vehicle fuel. [2:46:21] And then commodities [2:46:25] Repairs and maintenance and I have listed as [2:46:27] and contractual and then [2:46:39] » And then the cruiser There's a fuel here expense of 25,000. [2:46:43] And then down here is fuel expense of 140,000. [2:46:47] » Okay. [2:47:07] » [clears throat] [2:48:16] » Extradition is four times as high. >> How do you compare that? It's like when [2:48:21] you need other than obtaining extra items out of [2:48:25] our own municipality that we're bringing in [2:48:27] » I don't know. [2:48:31] » Pick them up in other states, bring them back. [2:48:34] So, the transport secure transport expense. [2:48:38] » I mean to be that much of an increase. [2:48:42] » What was the >> What is that? [2:48:45] » From 5,000 to 20,000. >> 15,000. [2:48:50] » I think that probably has to do with the number of people [2:48:53] over the last couple years who have been [2:48:57] extradited. >> The expectation of having [2:49:00] » Well, we had to go to Arizona, New Mexico, [2:49:06] Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, and Cleveland. And I'm not [2:49:12] saying just I'm over a period of time that I'm [2:49:15] remembering. We've gone to Vermont, we've gone to [2:49:18] California. It's a [2:49:21] » Right. >> It just [2:49:23] depends on on the year. I don't know how you can [2:49:27] truly project that. [2:49:31] And then that's on the back end, once somebody is [2:49:35] convicted, I request reimbursement for the extradition costs, but [2:49:42] » It's like transferring them to federal or state prison then or [2:49:45] something. >> Um no, they [2:49:49] Let's say somebody has a criminal charge, they leave the jurisdiction [2:49:54] before their court date, then it doesn't just go away. They end [2:49:58] up having to >> [clears throat] [2:50:00] » come back and and face responsibility at some point. [2:50:05] » [clears throat] >> It has to be [2:50:06] to extradite out of state, it has to be a felony offense. So, [2:50:11] certain felony offenses and depending on what it is and what I know about the [2:50:16] individual, I'll request either Kansas and surrounding or nationwide [2:50:22] extradition. [2:50:26] » So, you get reimbursement on some of that, is that right? [2:50:29] Oh, you request reimbursement. >> I request reimbursement. [2:50:33] » Okay. Okay. [2:50:35] Does it always come through? [2:50:38] » Not always. I mean, it ends up being a a cost at times that's turned over to [2:50:44] collections and then the the court system has their own collection system. [2:51:03] I think it would depend on a given year. Like one year it might be low. [2:51:08] A good example would be juvenile defense attorney. [2:51:12] I usually ask for $10,000 and in some years it's [2:51:18] well below that and 2 years ago it was 40 some thousand and [2:51:25] it had to be that based on the type of offense and level of offense that we [2:51:30] were dealing with. [2:52:30] » And your reduced commodities would consist of [2:52:33] » Anything that you could physically touch. Yeah. [2:52:36] So, I'll just under Oh, under [2:52:43] number is, but >> There's that under number like $1,000 or [2:52:47] something and then it goes to capital outlay. [2:52:50] » Okay. And that would be considered a large [2:52:52] » Okay. >> [clears throat] [2:53:05] » BRB. [2:54:07] » Well, I guess Yeah. [2:54:11] I don't know. I think they're not connected to the same network. [2:54:14] it. Projector [2:54:27] » I'm [2:54:31] Oh. [2:55:00] Okay, I'm going [2:55:22] » So, that's still on the shelf. [2:55:33] Thank you for the question. Can I come back to [2:55:43] Transportation snacks. >> Crayons. [2:55:50] » It's still $5,000 tuition and that. [2:55:58] It was like it's based on [2:56:16] » I'm ready [2:56:22] » Yeah. [2:56:25] » I'm going to go over the school budget. [2:56:37] Total operating expenses. Okay. [2:56:43] Yes. [2:56:48] And then we have assets. And some land assets. [2:56:56] And did she say something about wanting to buy a new van or something that she [2:56:59] was looking for? Well, they they're always rotating and [2:57:04] then it it can't all just stay on the black bus [2:57:08] that we [2:57:11] She's got a 25,000 proposed increase this year. [2:57:14] » Yeah. >> So, in her letter it says uh [2:57:20] their request uh they're requesting an approximate 9% [2:57:23] increase in the county subsidy. >> Yeah. [2:57:26] » Per KDOT, the amount of funding requested statewide greatly exceeded the [2:57:31] funds available. >> Right. [2:57:33] » Which resulted in Coffee County Transportation's operating budget being [2:57:37] underfunded. >> Yeah. [2:57:39] » So. [2:57:42] They have a million dollars in assets. [2:57:47] A lot of assets. [2:58:08] And this is a pretty vital service to our county taxpayers. [2:58:12] A lot of taxpayers. >> There is a lot of damage. [2:58:22] Is there any way you can write that down for me CDs down there that she's got [2:58:25] listed as well as the [2:59:17] » Yeah, I just >> So they're like you're about personal [2:59:21] services to make that both of that and then [2:59:34] good portion of that I guess and then [2:59:40] And it's only 3.2% increase so [2:59:49] So the zone just went up $34,000 [2:59:54] in fees and they lost [2:59:58] » [clears throat] >> It was $704,000. [3:00:05] If they were to fold or what Yeah. [3:00:18] » [snorts] [3:01:27] » So when you're jail, what does the prescription scope from 8,000 to zero? [3:01:40] » That's that's a tough question. [3:01:43] » Yeah. >> I figured there's some sort of program. [3:01:47] » I mean [3:01:52] like zero, but uh [3:01:55] just curious. [3:02:04] » [clears throat] [3:03:10] » With the new jail, how come our building supplies went from $100 to 10,000? [3:03:31] Say that again, Todd. >> Uh it's on the second page. [3:03:35] » What are you doing at the top? >> It says uh building supplies. [3:03:38] » Okay, I see it. I see it. Yeah, thanks. [3:04:02] » Oh, yeah. [3:05:15] » Inmate Inmate medical [3:05:19] 028 130,000 130,000 [3:05:24] » Mhm? >> All right, inmate [3:05:27] on the [3:05:31] Inmate medical I'm not sure what that is. [3:05:38] 26 6000 and then 27 130,000 [3:05:44] I'm I'm 40,000 new ground from some place else, so [3:05:54] » Oh, even even the one below it's got 38,100. [3:05:58] So, there's 168,000 >> 168,000 I mean, I'm just curious what [3:06:02] that represents. >> I don't know. [3:06:09] » Maybe it was moved from [3:06:17] » Registrations and meetings there, they had zero in '26 and they want 4,100 for [3:06:21] '27. And contract services [3:06:26] decreased from 110,000 to 65,000. >> Kind of makes you wonder if some of that [3:06:32] stuff is moved >> moved around. That's what That's what [3:06:35] I'm wondering. >> Sure, some of it is, yeah. [3:07:23] After you guys get through the way and [3:07:27] if you would like go ahead and [3:07:34] Do you want to You got the water softener information? [3:07:38] I'm looking at it here. We can do that next second session once [3:07:42] you get through the way there. [3:07:48] Then we can decide how much further I'm going [3:07:50] this this week we will take it more next week. [3:08:10] Also, next week we're doing vouchers. [3:08:14] » Yes, vouchers. [3:08:50] » [clears throat] [3:10:18] » Where's everybody at? [3:10:21] » [clears throat] >> I guess I'm going to wait. [3:10:23] » I guess I'm going to wait at the lake, I guess. [3:10:26] » Yeah. [3:10:34] » We got I mean [3:10:38] » If I try to move forward with that. [3:10:42] » You guys can stop on the budget today then. [3:10:45] » Um [3:10:51] I guess we're at the halfway point. Yeah, we're probably close to the [3:10:54] halfway. Um next week we're doing warrants and [3:10:58] vouchers. How much is on the agenda right now? [3:11:02] » Um [3:11:06] I'm going to lie. Yeah, [3:11:09] Heidi with reviewing possible approval for a case. [3:11:13] Planning word interview. And then budget work session and [3:11:16] questions after this. So, if you want me to [3:11:20] limit what's on, we'll do that. >> Yeah, cuz we need to [3:11:24] » Unless there's an emergency. >> Well, and if we have [3:11:27] questions on some of these budgets Do what? [3:11:30] » A half page. >> A half a whole page. [3:11:33] » Yeah. >> Depends on how long that one is. [3:11:34] » Yeah. >> Major halves and quarters. [3:11:39] Yeah, so if we could see if we can protect a little bit of time for [3:11:43] » Okay. >> vegetables. [3:11:45] » How did you get all We'll do checks and balances first. I [3:11:48] just have to have that done next week and then we'll do vegetables. [3:11:52] » So, we're solving it. We've done the carbon dioxide. [3:11:56] Yes. [3:11:59] You can go and stay and work on this afternoon. [3:12:04] Sure. [3:12:08] I just might work out your agreement. >> Yes. [3:12:21] » Okay, so as far as this water softener, what do [3:12:25] we need to do that? [3:12:34] » I'm not sure. [3:12:40] Uh the water softener, [3:12:42] check your stuff. >> You have everything you need. Here you [3:12:44] go. >> Should start assembling around uh [3:12:49] I don't have one copy of this. I don't have one of these. [3:12:55] It's still more for you than Not so relevant, but what you'll see is [3:13:02] That's the original bid with couple of things that probably need to be changed [3:13:06] including the date. So, pick a date. [3:13:10] When When you want that through? [3:13:13] Here's a picture of a map or a diagram from the interior [3:13:19] where it would be in the mechanical room. [3:13:23] It's two different maps. An actual [3:13:28] picture in the area that's being proposed. [3:13:34] And then [3:13:39] an example [3:13:42] Well, I'll just pull out the the relevant sheets. [3:13:47] Eco water systems commercial water softening sort of their their handouts [3:13:51] for sure and then specific items that are highlighted that give the [3:13:58] examples for uh flow rate and pressure. [3:14:07] Nominal nominal resin tank diameter, [3:14:11] height, inlet outlet height, overall height, brine tank diameter, brine tank [3:14:17] height, service all concepts. I don't I can read it off, [3:14:22] but I have no idea what that means. Um [3:14:26] operational flows, flow rate, pressure. It's highlighted on the sheet, so [3:14:33] Hopefully that will be enough. Um and then the only other thing is [3:14:39] that there is a I don't know if it needs to be [3:14:44] written in here [3:14:47] anywhere. Um [3:15:02] Service coming in is a 4-in copper line and I don't know if that makes a [3:15:07] difference or or not. So, if you can [3:15:11] just take a look. I think that the bid sheet with those attachments hopefully [3:15:17] will answer some of those questions. [3:15:23] » So, they request this and then >> So, anybody who's interested, this will [3:15:27] be available here in the clerk's office and then it'll get sent to [3:15:32] Ronald True Love down in uh [3:15:35] the economic development. She'll post it on the county website under the bid [3:15:40] advertisement section. That's where a number of the [3:15:45] emails that I was receiving were I think being generated from cuz they go in and [3:15:49] see the bid advertisement. [3:15:57] And then it has the bid under the [3:16:01] bid advertisement. It has general parameters what they're looking for and [3:16:04] references in paragraph two, for example, or in the [3:16:07] project description. The system will be installed in the Coffee County Law [3:16:12] Enforcement Center in the mechanical room 184. Well, [3:16:16] that's probably why that's generated questions [3:16:20] about well, what's mechanical room 184 look like? [3:16:24] Now, there's it's [3:16:27] So, that [3:16:28] » [clears throat] >> has at least a [3:16:31] picture of the mechanical room. [3:16:38] » Well, I mean, I think if anybody needs more information than what you're [3:16:41] supplying there, then they can look. I mean, that's going to be [3:16:45] » They can come and check it out. >> Yeah, they can check it out. [3:16:48] » Yeah. >> it out. [3:16:50] You know, I would expect it. If I'm just bidding it, I want to anyway. [3:16:54] » Yeah. >> I mean, that is just common [3:16:59] sense and common courtesy. [3:17:06] Did you even put in more information in these books [3:17:09] for us? >> Um I will if I can get some more budget [3:17:13] » Okay. >> to include that. But if you want to take [3:17:14] it, you can and I can set up a time >> I'll just wait and then get it the next [3:17:18] or not let's finalize this next meeting or what? [3:17:20] » No, no. It'll be in another >> Well, I'm so tired. [3:17:24] » Uh oh, bad my aunt. >> Yeah. [3:17:27] » Okay. >> [clears throat] [3:18:01] » Do you do you still have a word document this cover sheet that we [3:18:06] can modify or adjust it? [3:18:10] » I can actually see it. Did you email it to me, do you think? [3:18:13] » I I don't know actually. I don't remember where [3:18:17] where it came from. I I can tell you it didn't come from me. [3:18:20] Did you email it? I have no memory of that part, yes. [3:18:25] Yeah, but that's the one we That would be the one we need to [3:18:29] change the the date. That includes [3:18:35] additional >> These are [3:18:37] » documents that need to be part of this, too. [3:18:40] Bid advertisement. And it may be of value to include a [3:18:46] a sentence that says [3:18:49] reach out to the county to us to request [3:18:55] an inspection of the reviewing of the proposed site or something like that. [3:18:59] That way [3:19:07] » [snorts] [3:19:14] » So, we're going to republish it again. It [3:19:18] also need to go two times, three times. [3:19:25] » I don't remember when that was sent. That was originally published. [3:19:30] » Do you mean to go check with the case people cuz I don't show anything here? [3:19:34] She might have. I'm okay. [3:20:08] » Is there a date on that top one of those? [3:20:10] » She took both of them. >> I think she took both. [3:20:40] This is June 3rd. [3:21:00] » See? [3:21:03] What is this? [3:21:16] Okay. It came from Lisa. [3:21:21] I'm getting them to mix those shoes. [3:21:27] » Soak that grain three times four. [3:21:46] » Okay. [3:21:51] » So, what kind of wording you want on the motion? [3:21:55] Like what we had before or [3:21:59] we need to modify it any? [3:22:06] » Um the only thing that you might add is now [3:22:10] you're including [3:22:16] drawings and a picture of the mechanical room and just an example [3:22:23] of [3:22:27] from whatever that company is. [3:22:36] He got water. [3:22:40] And then that'll all go as part of somebody requests a big big packet and [3:22:45] then they can get a copy of that. [3:23:02] Oh, if you want and I did find out the question about [3:23:06] McElroy's. [3:23:09] They they thought what they had previously [3:23:13] turned in would qualify and [3:23:16] they were informed that it did not cuz they didn't [3:23:20] turn it in pursuant to the the application process. [3:23:27] » Okay. That's what I figured might have happened there is I figured it would [3:23:30] surely still be anonymous. >> Yeah, it was. [3:23:33] » Good. >> So [3:23:36] » So [clears throat] you actually have a a bid [3:23:38] » I don't know if I have the right one. >> Yeah, you're going to get one [3:23:42] » Yeah, un- unfortunately they were advised that [3:23:45] would not uh qualify cuz they didn't follow the procedures. [3:23:51] » But we at least have somebody that's interested in for sure. [3:23:53] » Yep. >> Okay, sir several things here. Num- [3:23:58] number one >> [clears throat and cough] [3:24:01] » as long as I can get the actual advertisement to bid by the [3:24:07] middle of the afternoon today, well couple of hours [3:24:11] I can get it in this week's paper and if you wanted to run it three times [3:24:17] then uh the last run would be on July 9th [3:24:21] which means that you could make the bids due 5:00 p.m. Friday, July 10th. [3:24:28] If you wanted to go that fast on it. Or if you wanted to push it off a week, [3:24:32] just push it off a week. >> That the 10th is is fine. [3:24:38] Once Angie has the document I think it's just a matter of [3:24:43] changing the dates, adding the information, printing it off, signing it [3:24:47] and then it being sent to [clears throat] uh [3:24:51] sent to you cuz you have the rest of the packet. [3:24:54] And then sent out to Rhonda and Economic Economic Development [3:24:59] to upload it. >> It's [clears throat] already been [3:25:01] advertised once so that deal that should be adequate. You know, basically giving [3:25:05] two weeks notice even though that would be three notices. [3:25:10] » I feel it is. [3:25:15] » And July 10th? >> Yeah. [3:25:18] » [sighs] [clears throat] [3:25:23] » Okay, and then [3:25:30] » So basically I guess motion [clears throat] be the same as before, [3:25:33] just change the bid due date. [3:25:37] » Yeah. >> [clears throat] [3:25:41] » And change And then change some of the wording on [3:25:43] the actual invitation to bid. >> What are you changing it to? [3:25:48] » Well, whatever. That you'll be able to [3:25:52] be able to see the >> What did you say with that what will be [3:25:56] included? >> I just have something [3:26:01] reach out to request an opportunity to view [3:26:07] the proposed location or something to that effect. [3:26:49] » And then you want to publicly open and read it July 13th? [3:26:55] » Yes. Yes. >> At [3:26:58] 9:05 and that way then you can move on with Emily. [3:27:07] » We We just We just sent somebody else in. [3:27:12] » Um well, we were going to do Emily and [3:27:17] » Yeah. >> Amber. [3:27:19] No. >> You did the interviews? [3:27:22] I mean, we're going to Well, we could >> That's next Monday. [3:27:26] » Right. Okay. >> Um but now the 13th, we put them on on [3:27:30] the calendar. That was [3:27:36] » [clears throat] >> Oh, yeah, Amber. At [3:27:38] » At 10:00. [3:27:41] » So, we could do her 9:00. [3:27:45] 7:00. >> Yeah. Open these bids and then go right [3:27:49] into Amber. >> Yeah. [3:27:52] Okay. [3:27:55] And then 5:00, we'll say. [3:28:08] » Okay. [3:28:16] I'll go ahead and make this motion and then [3:28:18] um then we can get on to the next executive [3:28:22] session and and be done. [3:28:28] So, I'd entertain a motion to that based upon the recommendation of [3:28:33] the sheriff to approve the request for authorization [3:28:37] to solicit sealed bids for the Quadplex Water Softening System project. Bids [3:28:43] will be due by 5:00 p.m. Friday, July 10th. [3:28:52] » I'll second that. >> I have Curry moved. [3:28:55] » Thompson seconded. Any discussion? [3:28:59] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye. [3:29:02] » Anybody oppose? Passes 5-0. [3:29:12] Okay. Yeah, and then yeah, make sure I get the [3:29:16] wording for that invitation [3:29:19] by I need it by 3:00 probably. >> I'll get it to you before then. [3:29:24] » Okay. Thanks. Okay, now what kind of wording do we [3:29:27] need for this executive session? [3:29:32] » This will be uh [3:29:36] attorney-client [3:29:40] legal advice and consultation regarding [3:29:49] moving forward with the [3:29:59] Good stuff. [3:30:13] That appears to be [3:30:16] official business, so [3:30:26] So, legal advice and consultation regarding moving forward [3:30:31] how to move forward with the [3:30:39] proposed sale and listing of the North property. [3:30:52] I'm saying 1 3 4 Old Highway 50. >> That would be good. [3:31:13] » How many minutes? [3:31:17] » I'd start with 20. >> 20? [3:31:20] » Let me see. >> 15? [3:31:22] » What? [3:31:26] » Let's Let's do 15. We'll see what [3:31:29] happens. [3:31:40] Okay, entertain motion to enter to executive [3:31:44] session for 15 minutes to include each of the commissioners and county [3:31:48] counselor Wade B II to the second to discuss matters deemed privileged in [3:31:52] the attorney-client relationship regarding legal advice and consultation [3:31:56] regarding regarding moving forward [3:32:02] with the proposed sale and listing of the north property located at 1 2 3 4 [3:32:07] Old Highway 50, Peabody, Kansas under the open [3:32:11] Kansas Open Meetings Act KSA 75-4319b [3:32:19] to to resume in the commission chambers at [3:32:24] 1 24. [3:32:28] » So >> Second. [3:32:31] » Gabe Parker moved. >> I'm sorry, Epting second. [3:32:34] » Yeah. >> Any discussion? All in favor say aye. [3:32:39] » Aye. >> Any opposed? 5-0. [3:32:43] We'll be back at 1:24. >> Under the same name. [3:32:49] » 1:19. One of them now? [3:33:05] 1:24 we're back in open session. [3:33:17] You want to wait for Steve? [3:33:20] Um Yeah, he shouldn't be but a second. [3:33:27] We're winding down. >> You got it, huh? [3:33:30] » Yes. [3:33:33] I'll need that back, though. [3:33:41] » This is >> Oh, that's next week. [3:33:44] » That's what you were going to do with me. [3:33:46] » Okay. [3:33:56] » [cough] >> Okay, so last one. [3:33:59] » We're all here now. [3:34:02] Based on the the last executive session, um at this point the only update would [3:34:08] be [3:34:11] I'm going to reach out to Cameron Roth Bar None Roth Land Brokers to set up an [3:34:18] initial meeting to discuss potential terms and [3:34:23] conditions related to bringing Cameron Roth on to [3:34:30] advertise and assist with the sale of the north property. [3:34:36] » Through a public auction? >> Through a public auction, yes. [3:34:42] Okay. [3:34:46] Anything else on that subject? Anything else at all? [3:34:52] Next week we'll uh So, we'll [3:34:56] issue warrants and vouchers and uh go through the rest of the budget stuff [3:35:01] initially and we have any questions about we might [3:35:05] bring in some department heads or whoever if we have some [3:35:08] I think we have time for questions and answers there. [3:35:12] Um and we'll keep [3:35:16] complying with the law with [3:35:19] Okay. Unless anybody has anything else, I guess we'll adjourn at 1:27. [3:35:29] » Yeah.