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All right. Thank you.
Okay.
There's nobody wishing to sever anything from that. Then what I will do is close the motion. Please cast your vote on the consent agenda items.
And that is carried unanimously. Thank you very much.
And at this point in time, I will ask if there's any delegations. Nobody is pre registered. There doesn't appear to be any members of the public in the audience.
So I think we can move on from that one and we will move on to unfinished business 5.1224 operating and capital budget adoption.
Good afternoon, Yourorship and members of Council. My name is Jeremy men, chief financial officer for the city.
And I'm here to present administration's report requesting council's formula approval of the 2024 municipal budget.
Approval of the 2024 municipal budget by council represents the final step in the city's annual budget process and fulfills the requirements under the municipal government act.
The MGA requires council to approve an operating and a capital budget for each calendar year and municipalities to prepare written three and five year plans respecting there anticipated financial operations and capital property additions respectively, which council must review and update on an annual basis.
The forces catch a public library operates under the Library's Act, which requires the library board to prepare an annual budget and provide an estimate of required funds for council's consideration.
The 2024 municipal budget identifies and allocates resources needed to provide for the municipal programs and services that support council's goals and strategic initiatives within the strategic plan.
The 2024 municipal budget was developed in accordance with the operating and capital budget's policy FIN24-C and once approved will provide an operating and a capital budget for 2024.
A three year operating financial plan forecast for years 2025 through 2027 a 10 year capital plan for years 2024 through 2033 and a 2024 appropriation to the forces catch up on public library.
Highlights of the 2024 operating budget include 94.6 million in total operating revenues expenses and transfers.
This includes 23.4 million for utility operations and a 1.3 million appropriations to the forces catch up on public library.
Appendix one to the council report outlines the 2024 operating budget and provides a detailed breakdown of the operating revenues expenses transfers and other items.
Appendix two provides details of adjustments which are reflected in the 2024 operating budget and are based on council motions passed during the budget deliberations along with some adjustments made by administration.
These adjustments include ongoing one time and capital related adjustments which result in approximately 47,000 in net property tax revenue reductions and approximately 76,000 in net utility rate revenue reductions from the operating budget as originally proposed.
Highlights of the 2024 capital budget include 28.7 million in total capital revenues and expenditures.
Appendix three of the council report shows a listing of all capital projects included in the 2024 capital budget.
Total capital expenditures by asset category include 20.4 million in engineering structures, 6.2 million for vehicles machinery and equipment and 2 million for buildings.
Appendix four outlines the 10 year capital plan for years 2024 through 233 that was reviewed by council during the 2024 budget meetings and as per budget policy council is scheduled to perform another review of the 10 year capital plan next June.
Next I'll review the financial impacts arising from the 2024 municipal budget.
The 2024 user fees rates in charges by law which will be presented a council later this meeting includes updated utility rates for 2024.
Residential utility customers can expect an increase of $5.86 or 4.89 to their monthly utility bills compared to 2023.
This is based on an average 14 cubic meter monthly water consumption and includes water sewer and solid waste services.
Regarding municipal property taxes the 2024 operating budget includes 56.5 million in total property tax revenue collected.
This represents a 4.2% tax property tax revenue increase from 2023 and is the estimated impact to residential and non residential property owners for their 2024 municipal property taxes compared to 2023.
The tax increase includes 0.8 million in tax revenue from the estimated growth in property assessments and a 2.3 million increased due to projected spending in 2024.
And please note that property owners may see their 2024 municipal property taxes change by more or less than 4.2% depending on how their properties assessment changes in comparison to the average annual assessment change for the assessment class.
In addition to municipal property taxes the city also collects property taxes in the form of provincial education taxes and the heartland housing foundations seniors housing requisition.
In early spring 2024 the property assessments will be finalized by the city's property assessors.
At this time administration will determine the 2024 property tax rates for council's review and approval within the 2024 property tax by law.
As well as calculated there is any additional property tax revenue growth beyond the estimates used at budget and recommend adjustments to the spring budget as needed.
The administration recommends first that council adopt the three year operating financial plan forecast and approve the 2024 operating budget dated December 12 establishing total operating revenues and expenditures at 94.6 million inclusive of the 23.4 million utilities budget.
Secondly that council adopt the 10 year capital plan and approve the 2024 capital budget dated December 12 establishing total capital revenues and expenditures at 28.7 million.
And lastly that council approve the 2024 forces catch on a public library appropriation at 1.3 million.
And that concludes my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions at this time.
Thank you very much to your presentation. I'll open it up for any questions.
If there's no questions I would entertain motion.
Councillor Abitoye to do a question.
Yes, I did. Thank you, Jeremy, for your presentation.
This is one quick question. So the 4.2% property tax increase that's just for the city doesn't include a Helen House and foundation acquisition and school board acquisition.
Three worshiped accounts for Abitoye that is correct.
Okay, so do we have an idea what that's going to look like.
Three worshiped accounts for Abitoye the property tax or sorry the education property tax acquisition.
Most likely won't be no until the province tables it's budget next March.
And as far as to how that heart land housing foundation we do know that amount and I believe off the top of my head was just a slight increase over last year.
That's correct. Thank you very much, Jeremy.
Okay, thank you, Councillor Kelly.
Merchats are I'm prepared to make the motions if you if you if you approve. Yes, go ahead. You bet.
I move the council adopt the 2025 through 2027 operating financial plan forecast and approve the 2024 operating budget data December.
December 12 23 establishing total operating revenues and expenditures.
And 94 million 600 and 10,259 dollars which includes 23 to some of 23 million 267 856 for the utilities budget.
Thank you. I'll accept that motion. Would you like to speak to your motion?
I have nothing to add. I support the budget.
I like how it was put together this year. I thought the budget was was well done by administration.
I actually thank.
This year, probably from all of Council generated a lot less action and a lot less debate than prior years.
I think that's a good thing. Nonetheless, I do think that 4.3% in the environment we in is solid and I would support it.
Okay, thank you. I'll open that up for discussion and debate.
Okay, not seeing anything on close for the first one.
Nothing to add. Thank you. All right. Thank you. The motion is now closed. Please cast your vote.
That is carried unanimously. Did you want to continue? Certainly.
I move the council adopt the 2024 through to 2033 10 year capital plan and to prove the 2024 capital budget dated December 1223 establishing total capital.
Pardon me, total capital revenues and expenditures at 28,692,000.
Okay, thank you. I'll accept that motion anything further. Just speak to it.
I'm nothing you. Mary catcher. Just echo my comments from motion one.
Okay. Thank you. The motion is open for discussion and debate.
Not seeing any. I'll close the motion. Please cast your vote.
That is carried unanimously. Would you like to continue? Certainly.
I move the council approve the 2024 for Saskatchewan public library appropriation at one million three hundred forty nine thousand nine hundred twenty five dollars.
Thank you. Would you like to speak in favor of it? Briefly. Yes. I thought the library board did a great job of presenting to council.
I took no exception with their budget and and I truly applaud the work they're doing over there and urgent.
Okay. Thank you.
It's open for discussion and debate.
Not seeing any. I'll close the motion. Please cast your vote.
And that is carried unanimously. Thank you very much. And thank you Mr. Eman. So good luck on.
Implementation for January. Thank you. All right. The next item that we have is industrial competitiveness strategy and tool set. Implementation plan Aaron brush Duncan presenting.
Good afternoon, mayor and council. I'm Aaron brush Duncan director of economic development. I'm here today to present our proposed implementation plan.
For the industrial competitiveness strategy that was initially presented to council at the October 2023 committee of the whole meeting.
As we were just before council two months ago, I'm going to streamline this timeline just a little bit on October 18, 2022 council heard information from an industrial property owner.
Regarding the city's competitiveness within the region on October or on November 8, 2022 council passed a motion that directed administration to compile a study that identifies challenges to attracting investment within certain sectors to our industrial lands.
The important point of perspective is to do certain activities that are going to be a big and significant, thinking about the city of the city of the whole meeting.
report was presented for information and administration committed to developing an implementation
plan based on the recommendations within the report, as well as Council's feedback
and then bringing that implementation plan back before the end of 2023.
Just as a reminder, our consultant, EBP, worked with local interested parties and administration
to create recommendations for both financial and non-financial interventions, which could
bolster for sports-eschedulins, international and regional competitiveness.
Each individual intervention will enhance sports-eschedulins' competitiveness, but as a collective,
the recommendations represent a comprehensive strategy for attracting and developing
the target sectors.
Based on feedback received during the October 17, 2023 Committee of the Whole Meeting, an engagement
with Interested Parties, the recommendations within that strategy and tools set have been updated.
These updates can be found on pages 36 to 37 of the, can be found on pages 36 to 37,
and are shown as italicized blue text within Europe index A. There are just a few updates
to the strategy and tools set, I'd like to bring to your attention.
These are specifically in regards to the proposed incentives.
For the Hydrogen incentive, there were only slight modifications, reducing the employment threshold
from 30 employees to 15 to better align with the Heartland incentive program.
For the agricultural processing incentive, the updated strategy recommended a change to major and minor
incentives, depending on that investment amount.
The major ag processing incentive aligns very closely with the Heartland incentive program and the minor
program requires a lower investment, but also provides a lower tax incentive.
Taking into account the feedback from the property owner and council, the updated strategy
and tools set also recommends considering the establishment of a new manufacturing and services
tax incentive that could work to take advantage of spin-off investments from large scale
and industrial projects.
I will be going more on to detail on these proposed incentives later in the presentation.
To date, we have had collaborative discussions with the industrial property owner, internal
process discussions with planning and development, as well as initial meetings with our regional
economic development partners.
Furthermore, the implementation plan has been prepared based on the updated strategy and is now being
presented.
To execute the proposed industrial competitiveness strategy and tools set, administration is proposing
a two-year implementation plan.
The recommendations within the strategy can be divided into three categories, site and organizational
readiness, marketing promotions, and advocacy, and incentives.
Regarding the site and organizational readiness, we plan to engage with our regional partners
and target sector businesses, support the new land use by law process, which will incorporate
best practices and reflect current industrial development trends.
Support the industrial area structure plan update, engaging with local property owner's businesses
and interested parties.
The update will review the current land use designations and explore appropriate actions like
up zoning, should the city wish to increase the amount of land identified for medium or heavy
industry.
The industrial area structure plans update will also review servicing plans for the area.
Most of the updated structure plans recommend increasing the land designation to allow for
more intents and industrial land uses, the servicing needs for the area may change.
To improve the marketing promotions and advocacy, administration will incorporate the results
of the strategy into the city's marketing materials, and 2024, the city's main investor
focus website and best fortsask will be updated as well as a new suite of marketing materials
to promote the advantages of Fort Saskatchewan.
Throughout this process, administration will engage with regional entities to align marketing
efforts.
The strategy also recommends the creation of the three new incentive programs to attract new industrial
investment, the hydrogen incentive program, and agricultural processing and manufacturing incentive,
as well as the manufacturing construction and industrial support services incentive.
The administration is proposing that the city follow the recommendations of VBP and the
strategy for both the proposed hydrogen incentive program and the proposed agricultural processing
incentive.
Regarding the manufacturing construction and industrial support services incentive, that's in development,
those collaborative discussions are ongoing with the property owner.
Administration met with that property owner in November, and the parties agreed that the incentive
proposed should one be designed to generate long-term economic growth for the city and should
not incentivize temporary or low return uses to that incentive should be designed to catalyze
investment in those light and medium industrial areas, and three that the incentive should
be designed to take advantage of potential spin-off investments from large scale-heavy industrial
expansions in the area, and it should include a sunset clause to really promote that quick action.
We all know that it's not truly an implementation plan without a timeline, and you can see here a
general outline of our two-year proposed outline, please note that we plan to bring the incentive
by-laws to council for approval by the end of Q2 of 2024, and expect those to require annual reporting
to council moving forward as well.
As you can see in 2023, we are focusing on engagement as we wrap up the end of the year.
In 2024, we start the industrial area structure plan update, as well as the updates to marketing
materials and the creation of incentives.
In 2025, we'll begin the review of zoning and servicing and additional marketing work.
As we look at these incentives on the screen, you can note that our existing Heartland incentive
by-laws at the top in the blue ink that proposed hydrogen and agricultural processing incentives
are in black, kind of in the middle, and the manufacturing construction and industrial support
services and incentives in the dark gray.
You can see the collaborative piece, which is the one that we anticipate moving forward with
kind of in the middle, with the initial recommendation above and the landowners recommendation below.
The hydrogen tax incentive is designed to align with the Heartland incentive program, which
is a 2.5% incentive with 250 construction jobs or 15 permanent jobs, except with the focus
on hydrogen projects, and with a lower investment requirement to only $10 million instead of the
50 million of the Heartland incentive program.
This is to better meet some of the smaller scale clean energy projects we'd like to attract
to our area.
Those two agricultural processing incentives, the major and minor, were designed to address
the current cost disadvantage for Fort Saskatchewan as described in the industrial competitive
and strategy.
The major agricultural processing credit would mirror the Heartland incentive program, and the
minor agricultural processing incentive would have those same job requirements, but would only
require $20 million investment, and would provide anywhere between a 1.5 and 2% incentive.
As mentioned, the manufacturing construction and industrial support services incentives
is still in development, and we will need to do some financial modeling and discuss options with
both the interested parties in our consultant.
We are currently proposing a $2.5 million minimum investment, but plan to continue working with
a property owner and the consultant to determine the tax exemption percentage and to define specific
eligibility criteria to meet those goals we specified.
Once the details are defined, administration will work with the consultant and our legal advisors
to draft the incentive by-laws, and administration will bring these proposals and incentives
to council for consideration before the end of the second quarter in 2024.
So the city's legal advisors will need to support the creation of these incentive programs,
therefore administration is requesting that council allocate a one-time budget, ask
of $30,000 from the municipal operating projects reserve for the purpose of creating these
thoroughly vetted incentive programs, and so we are, I guess, open two questions.
All right, thank you very much for your presentation.
I'll open it up for questions.
I can start if you like.
So based on the previous slide that you had that had the 80% is go back one more.
Yeah, that one.
So that would be similar to the Heartland one where it would be for a maximum of the 10-year
or five-year construction.
So once it's constructed, and then on the 10th year, then there would be a 100%?
Yes.
Through your wish, yes.
Okay.
So it would be designed to mirror the Heartlands and a program.
Yes.
Okay.
So then basically, if we were to get a lot of them, we flatlined for at least five years, and then
after five years, then we have to look at this as a futuristic, then all of a sudden we would
get a bunch of taxes in year five.
To your worship, yes.
With these programs, we would still be receiving some tax increase, but yes, you would
receive a much larger tax increase once that 10-year period is through.
Okay.
Or until that maximum eligible amount is reached, so it's 10 years or that amount.
Okay.
Thank you.
You may have to explain that a little more after, but Councilor Kelly.
Thank you.
And Erin, thank you for the report.
Just to follow up on the last step.
Let's set a question. The taxes that apply to this industrial proposed industrial development would be M&E taxes, I correct?
That would be some of the taxes, yes.
Some of the tax. I've never understood M&E taxes based on a dollar value of assessed value, and a mill rate is applied to that.
Does that assess value depreciate over time?
Is it a declining balance that the mill rate applies to?
To now.
Mr. Femures, yes, I believe it is.
So, over 10 years, what would be the standard depreciation factor that would apply?
So, let's keep it simple.
A hundred dollars is invested. We can pretend it's a hundred million, but it's a hundred dollars is invested in your one or construction finishes in your one.
By a year nine, is that assessed value then down to 50%, 80% or 10%.
Do we know?
Three years at the council, Kelly, we do have some models, but I don't have that in front of me to confirm those numbers. Mr. Fleming?
I'm just going to say, M&E, M&E taxation is quite complex, and it's been a few years since I've gone through.
They actually have depreciation schedules within the regulations for the different types of equipment.
Like, I think some of them go where there's certain equipment that will take about 20 years to amortize down, and there's different schedules for different types, so I'd have to look it up.
I think it probably possibly, I know where you're going with this, and like what we typically see is these types of things get built.
And yes, there's an amortization process that starts to take place where it gets amortized down, but what you typically find with these companies through the processes of doing turnarounds.
Expansions and whatnot.
The taxation that comes from these places tends to be fairly stable, even though they do have an amortization schedule associated with the different pieces of equipment.
So, I'm not terribly concerned about the amortization in this, but I would have to look up the different schedules, and we could send them to council after the fact to get a definitive answer.
If I may, just to flesh that out a little more, let's look at this slide, it's in front of us.
Let's use a two and a half percent tax incentive for hydrogen, because it's at the top of the list there.
Again, back to a hundred dollars.
The maximum incentive would be two and one half percent of the hundred dollar investment.
And our standard mill rate is approximately one percent, so we could use that up pretty quickly, is that.
It would normally last ten years would it?
And maybe I'm missing something that's really why I'm asking.
Through your worship to council or Kelly, the way these are structured is that it's.
You basically max out at either your.
The 2.5 percent of your eligible capital costs or the 10 years, so it's that way you have a boundary on both sides.
And that's what I thought. Thank you. So, that's my questions. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. Councilor Blizzard.
Thanks for the presentation.
So, the Heartland incentive, because we're matching it, so companies can get both.
They can do the Heartland incentive and are incentive.
Through your worship to council or Blizzard, the Heartland incentive program is a program from the city of Fort Saskatchewan.
Okay. So, it's already ours, but they can do both programs, or is this is this in addition to it, or we're just realigning.
Well, through your worship to council Blizzard, so these programs would be separate from the Heartland incentive program.
And I don't anticipate our, I would.
Work to ensure that they wouldn't be eligible for both.
I think it would be similar to our downtown programs, which once it grant ones incentive, but you can't be eligible for both.
Okay. That's all I have. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions?
If not, I would entertain a motion. Councilor Harris.
I'd be prepared to note that council approve the industrial competitive and the strategy and tool set implementation plan as presented during the December 12, 2023 regular council meeting.
Thank you. Would you like to speak to your motion?
Yeah. I think we're moving in the right direction in terms of having something that's relatively objective in terms of trying to attract you investment to our community.
I think the program processes should be well understood and that hopefully will incent new industrial development in our community.
Thank you. It's open for discussion and debate. Councillor Kelly.
Thank you. I echo Councillor Harris's comments.
I do think that for the city of Fortress Gartron and obviously our region that industrial and heavy industrial is our livelihood or mainstay.
And I do think that council should regularly periodically and regularly review any incentive program to keep competitive.
I support all of this. The conclusions at the end of the report. I'd like every one of them.
So yeah, I'll be voting in favor. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll also be supporting this. I think we need to do something to try and get those lands that we're talking about moving.
And I know we have the discussion and it was said, well, you know, like we've got there's actually some in this queue.
And why aren't they coming here? Well, it's primarily because of our location.
But our location is also a benefit to these companies if we can just get them here.
And they understand how close they are to the people that they would be serving.
I support this. I do understand some people may have concerns at flat lines. That's a little bit.
But once the money starts rolling in our community is really going to be set for the future. So it's a good thing.
All right. Anything on close Councillor Harris. Nothing. Motion is closed. Please cast your vote.
That is carried unanimously. Do you like to continue? Just push your button.
Go ahead. I would move it. Council allocate $30,000 from the Municipal Operating Projects Reserve for the purposes of creating incentive programs as outlined in the December 12, 2023.
Regular Council meeting and industrial competitive and strategy and tool set.
Implementation plan report.
Thank you. Would you like to speak to your motion?
I think we've sent it all. It's a step along the path.
Thank you. It's open for discussion and debate.
Not seeing anything on close.
All right. I'll close the motion. Please cast your vote.
And that is carried unanimously. All right. Thank you very much.
Next item that we had was public minimum for appointments.
And that was part of consent. And I just like to congratulate. I think it's a policing committee.
Got another youth member. So just looking forward to seeing I met him on Saturday and he's very excited about being on there.
Good luck. Next item that we have is by law C11-23 establishing 2024 user fees rates and charges for services.
Again, good afternoon. Your worship members of Council. My name is Jeremy Eman, Chief Financial Officer.
This time I here to present a request for decision. That council give three readings to by law C11-23, which establishes the 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by the government.
The city establishes and collects user fees and charges in accordance with the user fees and charges policy.
And related procedures. The policies guiding principles and key factors provided consistent and transparent approach for reviewing and establishing user fees and charges for business services offered by the city.
Information on the city's user fees and charges established in accordance with the policy.
What's presented to Council for deliberation during the 2024 budget meetings.
By law C11-23 reflects the user fees and charges established through policy and the 2024 budget process, inclusive of adjustments based on decisions made by council.
In order to collect revenue from user fees and charges recognized within the 2024 budget, it is necessary for council to approve this by law.
Following third reading of the by law, the by law and user fee schedule will be posted to the city's website.
Administration's recommendation is that council give three readings to by law C11-23, which establishes the 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by the city of sports schedule.
And that concludes my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Okay. Thank you. Are there any questions?
Councillor Kelly.
Thank you, Jeremy.
I know that the city is a complex animal and there's a lot of moving parts.
But I really wonder when I look at the schedule of fees, if we need that many specific fees to do our job properly.
I'm not proposing a motion here. I'm getting this on the table.
Maybe you guys can give it some thought when you have a moment to streamline in your process a little bit.
If nothing else, it makes setting up our computer system and adjusting it annually for computer fees with two down to about a tenth of the time maybe.
In many cases, the rate differences are my new.
There is so small that I don't think they all acted at the incentive that or the benefit that I suspect is often thought when they're assigned in the first place.
Maybe we could call it our own version of red tape reduction.
And that was less a question. Miracature than a statement.
I do have a question. I don't know who it should be directed to. But during the budget.
When we looked at red and culture and I know I had some questions around the logic and methodology for setting some of the fees.
There was no formal motion given by council last for sure.
But I got the impression that there was going to be some sort of feedback back to council is my impression correct.
And if so, approximately when I'd be given that any thought.
Mr. Dance.
Yeah, the intent was that recreation would do work on their fees and charges based on the new policy in early 2024 for the 25th.
It was a significant amount of input as well that came with their fees that I think you're referring to that would also roll up.
We captured that feedback and it would roll up into their review as well.
So you would see the changes within the 2025 fees and charges within recreation and culture.
You know, independent discussion in advance of that.
John and what they what the methodology or their conclusions or rational might be when those fees are ultimately set.
If there's a desire for council to see it in advance of it coming forward prior to I guess what would be in the budget process.
If there's a committee the whole sometime in mid year that would would help.
They are very complex and they're obviously the largest set of fees that we have with recreation and culture.
So.
Thank you.
I'm going to give that some thought.
Thank you.
I'm not saying any additional questions.
Councillor Noyan.
I'll make the motion.
Excuse me.
That council get first reading to by law C1123 which establishes the 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by the city of Fort Saskatchewan.
Thank you.
Would you like to speak to your motion?
I'm not much other than to say I appreciate how they're laid out in the budget this year.
I think we had had a good discussion with some of the user fees.
And yeah, I'm just going to appreciate how they were placed adjacent to the departmental request and presentations as well.
Thank you.
Motion is open for discussion and debate.
Not seeing anything.
Anything on close?
Nothing on close.
All right.
I'll close the motion.
Please cast your vote for first reading.
That is carried unanimously.
Would you like to continue?
I'm moved that council.
Give second reading to by law C1123 which establishes 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by the city of Fort Saskatchewan.
Thank you.
Anything further to speak in favor?
It's open for discussion and debate.
Not seeing any.
I'll close the motion.
Please cast your vote.
That is carried unanimously.
You may present it for unanimous consent.
I'm move that council provide unanimous consent proceed with third and final reading to by law C1123, which establishes the 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by the city of Fort Saskatchewan.
Thank you. I'll close the motion. Please cash your vote.
That is carried unanimously. You can continue.
I'll move that council to give third reading to by law C1123, which establishes the 2024 user fees and charges for services provided by city of Fort Saskatchewan.
Thank you. Do you have anything further to speak to it?
Nothing.
All right. Thank you very much. It's open for discussion and debate. Not seeing any. I will close the motion. Please cash your vote.
And that is carried unanimously. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Eman. Are there any notice of motions?
Not seeing any. Are there any points of interest?
Not hearing any. Are there any council or inquiries of administration?
Not seeing any. Then we will take a motion to go into confidential closed session.
Councilor Blizzard.
You have to push your button.
Go ahead.
I make a motion that we go into closed session for those items that are.
We are allowed to underfoot.
Thank you. Call the question. Please cash your vote.
That's carried unanimously. So we will go in camera and you are going to have staff stick around for a little bit.
All right.
Thank you very much.
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