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and i had been watering the last two
years started with the group

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last year it happened that i was the
only volunteer that came back

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so i watered mondays and wednesdays and
the city had a young

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summer helpers a boy and a girl water on
fridays

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our flowers looked good but they weren't
spectacular and then when i heard they

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weren't coming back i was very
disappointed and i

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asked a couple people well do you think
i could

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do something and so i put an ad in the
paper helped me save the flowers for

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twenty twenty two
and as of now

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i have raised nine thousand six hundred
and

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twenty dollars i believe is the total so
you know that people want our flowers to

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appear again
um i don't think i would have collected

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that much money if i had if there wasn't
a need or a liking having them make our

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city look good
um

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this is great we're on track
thompson's nursery was told that they

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weren't going to get the contract back
and i called them right away when i

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started my

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advertising to
catch donations or get donations and

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they said they would hold their flower
order and they did and we

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have those flowers growing out at
thompson's nursery they're little

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but
they're gonna grow and they're gonna

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look great
but when i worked when i started out i

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called um
a gal that started the flower project in

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saint joe her name was carol tyson
and carol said surely your flowers look

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good but i believe they're too tall you
just don't get the dramatic beautiful

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effect because you have to look up they
should really be kind of at an eye level

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so my concern then too was um maybe to
lower those and get some new brackets i

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checked with a manufacturer in saint joe
he was supposed to call me back with a

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dollar amount today but the city had
kind of what i heard

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from bridget that the city doesn't want
me to go ahead with any new brackets

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we'd just like to see them the way they
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well that's
i know we talked about it

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but
we just we were just worried more

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when it's lower about vandalism
i went to saint joe today to research

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that
um i talked to joe bechtold he's one of

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the guys
they have three gentlemen that have been

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watering their flowers
and they start at five in the morning

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there are three dairy farmers that are
retired and they had time so they would

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get up at five in the morning and water
there they would each take a week in the

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month
um joe said that yes he did see once

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some kids stinging around with them
but he

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told them that if they were going to do
that they were going to water those

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flowers for the rest of the summer
obviously they didn't really want to

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work so they didn't mess with them and i
did check with the city hall at saint

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joe today i talked to a ryan and he said
that they have not had an incident with

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the police department on any vandalism
although that doesn't mean our bars

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won't have individuals that might want
to mess with them

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but
they're they're um i would like ours are

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12 feet high st joe's are 10.
so they do the flower baskets then come

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down about a foot with their leggings
onto the basket

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um i guess i would like
you to think about it i did take some

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pictures i could show you their pole
then one other concerned was that the

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poles would stick out to the city that
it could catch on a truck or something

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no the poles go just like the rods go
just like they are and they have a metal

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they're made of steel and they buckle
around the circle and then

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bolts go through
so they said that they would

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sustain at least a hundred pound
basket on each side and our baskets

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approximately with x number of gallons
of water are 80

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could be up to 80 pounds so i wouldn't
want you to get anything that wasn't

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certified or you know provided a good
guarantee that something wouldn't happen

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to the to the
bracket

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um again i just want to then just tell
you thank you for letting me go ahead

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with the program
um john's been good about helping me

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keep that little toro running the last
couple years

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and i do appreciate that and we are
going to make those flowers look the

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best we can this summer and you know i
thought even if i could

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ask if i could get the gentleman to
build me

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four sets you know i have money in that
kind of that budget that i

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grew
even if we could hang some and then just

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see how they do
and see if it is that more effective

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beautiful ie you know but again that's
up to you and if we want to just leave

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it this summer that's fine maybe we can
review it again next summer

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um
the money that i have left over i will

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just leave in that fund
just to let you know how much i wanted

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this program i have a thousand dollars
that i put into that fund and we would

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only need a couple more hundred dollars
so we would have enough money for the

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flowers for next year already so
you guys would be

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kind of off the hook
because i i st joe is such a beautiful

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community and those flowers just pop
and i would like to see that happen for

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our community especially with the splash
pad and the trails

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good businesses that people will come to
town with price of gas and still covet

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hopefully they'll still spend or maybe
more people will come to our community

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over summer so
thank you for letting me tell me my

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story and um
thank you thanks really very good thank

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you yeah thanks really appreciate your
work

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very good
somebody

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okay anybody else
not on the agenda that wants to speak

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otherwise we'll move on to number three
approval of

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the amended agenda i need a motion to
approve the amended agenda i'll move

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mike makes a motion how about a second
i'll do it all right

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any discussion on it otherwise all those
in favor say aye

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against motion carries
number four consent agenda

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recommendation to approve the consent
agenda

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as presented i need a motion on that
i'll make that motion friend makes a

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motion how about a second
a second shannon seconds it any

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discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

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against promotion carries
number five revolving loan fund

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agreement for khk properties llc
gary keys and greg keys

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you have to hold it down a little longer
there you go

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hello hi hi
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should i
talk do you wanna i could start okay um

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so
at the eda meeting earlier this month

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eda recommended approving a revolving
loan fund

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agreement with
gary and greg for their khk properties

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for the demolition of the keys building
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at that meeting on that monday which was
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there were some adjustments to some of
the language so it had been in your

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packet but pulled out so what you got
this week was just the new agreement

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with uh
you had seen the red line

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i think you saw the red line but it's
now um it's accurate to what it's

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supposed to be and so it's here now
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for council discussion
okay you guys got anything else

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i guess i don't know exactly what you
guys have all heard

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i mean if you're pretty informed i don't
know if there's more for us to discuss

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if you guys have questions
i mean if you want to give just a quick

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brief just for the people that might be
watching or sure anyone here yeah so

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we're

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um through a partnership
from our grandparents actually

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and
most people probably realize there's

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been a lot of environmental
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my grandparents have done quite a bit of
the work already on that but there's

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still more to be done
so what we came to you guys with was the

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requesting
money under the revolving loan fund to

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tear it down um abate some potential
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that um and then
furthermore we're looking to develop the

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property into something you know down
the road but at this point we're just

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looking to acquire it get it torn down
and then from there develop it

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all right thank you
i'm going to read a recommendation then

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to approve
k properties llc for a

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loan from the revolving loan fund
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i need a motion i'll make the motion
brand makes the motion how about a

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second
mic seconds at any discussion

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otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
against motion carries there you go all

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right thank you again thanks guys

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number six resolution
2022-13 a resolution approving

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a special use permit for grafton
integrated health systems

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hello hi
i'm lori schmidt i'm the executive

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director at
grafton um

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can you hear me now okay i'll start over
yeah under our code

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fence heights are maxed out at um
six feet

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in the city code for industrial and
commercial it can be eight feet but

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under a special use permit it can go up
higher than that

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and uh grafton has submitted a special
use permit came to planning last week

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to talk a little bit about the need and
i'll let laurie talk about that in a

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second
and planning did make a

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recommendation to approve the special
use but i'll let laurie explain why they

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need
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so we currently had submitted our
original plan with an eight foot fence

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for
to develop a playground area for

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the children that will be serving if
you're not familiar with grafton we're

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developing
a

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up to 30 bed residential facility for
children with mental health and

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also
intellectual with disabilities or autism

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so these are kids that
you know are our experi we'll be out at

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home and residing in our facility
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anywhere between three and six months
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but
some of them have behaviors

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and some of them are non-verbal but very
capable of running and an eight-foot

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fence creates an obstacle course
as i explained to the planning and

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zoning
and as i've talked to the police

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department about
and some of our staff might be able to

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follow but some of ours might not be
able to jump the fences easily

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and so
a 12-foot fence is what we have in our

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existing facility in berryville virginia
and that has been found to be very

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successful
in preventing

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children from scaling and leaving the
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so it's for our children's health and
safety especially with county road 2 so

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close and with the
semi-traffic going to

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the
distribution air and brewing

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um so with all of that we felt that we
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children couldn't get out as easily
um there's no barbed wire we plan to do

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the landscaping around it we don't want
it to look institutional we want it to

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look very inviting
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and welcoming the last thing we want
people to think is that you have some

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sort of
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prisoner they're caged
in there exactly and we wouldn't want

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anyone to believe that we're caging
children because that's not that's not

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good for anyone
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we plan to put a nice playground in the
in the area here within the fence and we

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plan to we're looking at
putting tiles in the fence it's a small

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length fence not the big chain link
because we don't want their thing the

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bigger chain links are easier to scale
so we do look at that too

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um but there's little tiles we can get
to make it more decorative we found out

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and then we plan to do some greenery
around it and actually try and beautify

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it around it both inside and outside the
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so
with all of that considered i have

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talked to the chief of police chief
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and he was supportive of it
i think he will agree

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it will reduce the calls
and and risk of children leaving

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there will be a gate the only vehicles
that can access inside is with the gate

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opening and that would be our recycling
but at that point children wouldn't be

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out there
or if there was some reason to do any

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work in that area of the building
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i will read the recommendation then
to approve resolution

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2022-13 a resolution allowing
for a 12-foot fence at

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at property located
224 craze mill road

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in the c3 highway commercial district i
need a motion on that

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motion shannon makes motion mike second
it yep

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mike seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

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against motion carries there you go
thank you very much question for you how

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many do you have any
children up there or anyone plan to be

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up there we we've currently acquired our
first of our

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two licenses okay yeah i know that um so
we have our slf

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supervised living facility license in
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dhs is coming out on friday to do
a site inspection for our variance

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license which will allow us to start
taking children

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um and we have completed our hires but
had to bump our orientation for our

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final nursing hires
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9th i think that's a monday so getting
much closer so we plan we're looking at

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mid-may for our first
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admits
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nice yeah so we're very excited it was
exciting and that will bring families

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we'll we expect family therapy so we
want our families to come visit the

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children so that will bring people to
the community so

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we're putting a list of to-do's
so if you have recommendations of

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activities for families let us know all
right thank you thank you thank you um

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leave it on

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all right number seven
ordinance 400 and ordinance allowing for

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community centers in the residential
districts by special use

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yes this is being presented by city
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some of our admin staff
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current zoning use
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community centers are not allowed in
residential districts

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um
there is

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um coming before you the field house
issue which would fall under the

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definition of community center and would
not be allowed at the park because

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that's r1 but in addition and this is an
ongoing issue i keep finding

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about
three years ago

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the school district came to me about
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construction and i realized
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schools weren't allowed in the r1
but our schools are zoned in all r1

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and so
we amended the the city council at that

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time did a text amendment to put schools
as a special use permit well community

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centers i don't know if anyone watched
or was at the school board meeting last

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night they've done their facility
survey and one of the things that's

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a potential referendum question is about
a community center on their campus

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for like indoor community rec et cetera
which wouldn't be allowed for them to

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build on that campus because it's not
allowed right now

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we don't want to permit some uses that
really need some site you know oversight

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on traffic flow on size on all those
items that can cause congestion noise et

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cetera
and so

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we proposed planning last week
they recommend approving this ordinance

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to allow
community centers in the r1 by special

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use so that people have to submit plans
they have to come to you talk to you

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and you can give them advice and
guidance on what is and isn't allowed

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so
all right recommendation then

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to approve ordinance 400 allowing
community centers in residential

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districts by special use permits i need
a motion on that

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we'll make a motion
shannon makes a motion

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mike seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

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against motion carries
all right number eight construction

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committee
community survey and site inspection for

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granite landing
discussion

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ken kramer and audrey nirenhausen
hello hi

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so we're just kind of giving an overview
of what we've done the last few meetings

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right
okay

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do you want to start i'll start
our first meeting we were separated the

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we had the two committees
and then our last meeting we brought it

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together
and we visited

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saint joe and sartell
and then for the library that was for

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the pd
and then we got to see the fire station

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as well in sartell
and then the last one we went to

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kimball and
we have panadal libraries

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and then with that we had some
discussion

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that we've all kind of had different
feedback from community members

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all of us
you know different people talking to

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each one of us
and then the architect recommended doing

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a outside survey or having an outside
third party do a survey so the community

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could be involved so the community could
give

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their take on things
and the survey correct me if i'm wrong

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is
real non-biased

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so it's
there

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they get information from all of us
and then they create the questions in a

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non-biased way to get community members
feedback

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and then from there
we'll decide how to move forward with

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the project
and as as to that

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and i wanted some guidance on this from
all of you so the school district is

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earlier in their discussions than you
all have been in the city has been for

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the last year and a half
so

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the
window's going to be coming on may

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10th for our next meeting oh yeah and
they're going to give us all the

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different layouts that they
you know the committee has said well

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what about these two together and what
about these two together so the goal is

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to have the committee come to you with
or tell wendell and then wendell will

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give a report to you that these are what
the configurations they came up with and

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these are what the committee is
recommending

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so the question is
do we do the survey on whether to do

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anything at all or do we wait and have
the survey be

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okay at may we're hoping to have that at
a special council meeting on may 31st so

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on may 31st the council will say
focus on this con these two together and

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these two together or this one you know
once you've made a overall arching

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is it two departments together is it
three locations whatever you come up

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with then survey on cost estimates etc
so i have a question for you bridget i'm

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sorry to interrupt you can you
are we making sure that all the costs

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that we're incurring
since

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this has begun
this new committee and everything um is

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separated from
the

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actual
project because i want to see like how

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much this is costing the city
and then are we really going to be

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saving money in the end i'm just
ultimately very curious about that

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um
so that in future in future projects we

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can say hey no you know what you guys we
actually tried that before and it didn't

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save us any money it just it just wasted
six months or three months or

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two months so
since september what so what we paid up

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through september and then when this
when we stopped and started this new

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process yes
yeah because it would be

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it would be just whatever is costing us
on this new process that we're doing

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until we start the project back up again
in my sense just to see like are we

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actually going to be saving money or is
it going to just be a wash

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and we just lost three months worth of
work time so

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i'm just
out of curiosity yep so i'm going to

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show up at the next meeting just so i
can vote

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i can't but

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[Laughter]

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um
sure i can i can bring that to the

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council if they if the remaining council
members want to hear that yeah yeah no

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no
no i think that'd be something that we

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should look at yes

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mike i like the idea of a community
survey and it would seem to me it would

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make some sense to have it
after this next meeting so they'd have

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something tangible to look at and see i
know it is really time sensitive do you

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remember what she said it was it really
had to fall perfectly to get it out

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um i did call so
because they had a marketing firm do

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theirs
who's familiar with the cold spring

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record area i did call the the gentleman
that performed the recory one to ask him

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about timing and everything and he said
if if you wanted to do it before you

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even
decide configuration or you wait to

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configuration of them then you do it and
then you do it either way there's plenty

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of time there is okay yeah how is this
getting out to the community what they

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did is a phone survey so they do a
random selection we give them everyone's

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everyone in the city water like do we
base it off of

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we would do it on the on the taxpayers
of cold spring so they would get the

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whole and they would do a random they
got all of the taxpayers of

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um
mccoy school district and i think they

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did 24 were from
residents of cold spring

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and i think it was 18 where wakefield
and 11 11 where richmond and

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rockville 400
and then the rest were the other

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outlying um
townships and they get 400 calls and

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they said that's a plus or minus of 5
so it's

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like any random telephone survey
and those

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i didn't ask them but i i would assume
those are quicker to do you know you get

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the responses back quick and those are
people who answer the phone

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yeah and they only got and five percent
hang up so out of the

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they got 400 responses so okay five
percent

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or cell phones they were doing both they
even they in that survey they said

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what was it
what were the numbers they broke it down

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even like how many households that they
surveyed are just cell phone households

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how many are just landline houses and
how many are both

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so they explained how they cut they got
people with cell phones they got people

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with landlines they got people who own
both

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wasn't the average phone call
approximately 15 minutes yeah some were

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45
and others yeah there were

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it was it i would suggest if you didn't
watch it watch his presentation it was

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very interesting
it just seems that so many people are

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getting spam calls all the time no
and

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you know are people going to pick up or
they're going to come across a spam

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caller i i don't know but they ended up
getting 400 so

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i don't know how many didn't pick up
but they got 400 responses so i don't

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know what the number of total calls 800
people to get 400 right i don't know i

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have to find that out i don't think they
only call them 400. probably or

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something could be they only called 400.
they only called 400 and it was if i'm

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not mistaken four percent
hung up on them the rest of them oh okay

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that's how that's how that works answer
one way or the other forward against

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them whatever some were shorter but
you're right up to 45 minutes was some

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discussions yeah
so

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and i think that cost 16 000 yeah he
gave me a proposal that if we're doing

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it as the after you know when you
already say

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okay fire and police are going to be
together city hall or on this location

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once a decision on
what the makeup of each

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structure would be
it would then be a survey based on that

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and that's 12 000.
so you said so that would only be 16

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people who didn't
partake in the survey out of 400.

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16 people would i there has to be more
people that didn't answer their phone i

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can't imagine it would be
only 16 people out of 400.

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there was a lot of publicity with that
survey though so people may be expecting

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yeah and we would do that to
anticipating it and the architect did

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say that too to put it in the paper we
would put it everywhere

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if they're anticipating that and then
that's different yeah and we would do

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that if that's what you want to do
so i think it would be nice for the

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community to feel like they have a voice
involved yeah that they're involved

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because whenever anyone has said things
to me and i say go to a meeting tuesday

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night
that's exactly that's what i get no i'm

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not going i'm not quite no i'm not going
to that but this way

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they can voice their opinion be part of
it and then they can't and they can be

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anonymous yeah and they can't complain
if it you know they had their voice they

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had their chance
perfect yep you got to take action on

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that no i don't think at this time i
think at may 10th we'll

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we'll have more from we meet that
morning or

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that late afternoon or something like
that

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and i'll have some more information and
then probably at that point discuss with

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you if you want to go on with the survey
in it in which way you want to do it be

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pre-determination of who goes with who
or post because the tenth is when we

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look at the plans for the latest when we
make the recommendation to you

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but you won't get that report until may
31st so

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do we do the survey
based on what the recommendation is

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going to be to you or wait till you make
a decision

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on what
you're probably going to get two or

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three different
configurations so

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do you want it based on those two or do
you want it based on what you decide and

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then we can put dollar numbers on that
as well because if it's

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library and city hall and police are
going here or fire's going here then we

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can do a better estimate on how much
each thing is going to cost

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so i think we would want to do it after
the 31st but definitely advertise that

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we're going to be doing it once you make
that decision i think my thought is one

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of the questions the community would
have is what's the cost

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right
and we can't get that until the 31st out

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of the survey at school they didn't have
dollars and

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he stressed very much that
okay do you want a field house well a

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lot of
i was a very high percentage like 70

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some percent said yes
but what is it gonna cost us

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and they didn't have dollars so when
they when they showed their surveys and

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all their slides
you know was a lot in favor

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but
and then it came down to the money money

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how much is this going to cost us you
know and this this here project is the

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same thing
i will say

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the tours
did a lot for me

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um
i definitely had some questions with our

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police space
and i really think

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talking to other police officers and
things uh

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i was really
surprised in in what's needed

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and uh how things work today versus they
did when i was on the force

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and um
so my mind was changed in in a different

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direction on a lot of things with our
police department

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i do have to say
that i'm very proud of bridget

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[Music]
she is the most conservative one in this

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whole process
she by far

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is not
expecting

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extra space in case
and um so hands to you

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in in your help in this whole process
and stuff

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um i think things are going very well
i think things are coming together i get

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your frustration
on this whole thing i i mean i really do

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but you got to look at it as the
taxpayer side of the two that we didn't

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know anything about this i've been on
these departments

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i still feel that it shouldn't be out of
town it should be in our heart of town

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and that part did not change but
location

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might change that whole thing where we
might end up back out there if it does

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cost
the same

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well so be it
i mean

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at least the citizens and taxpayers of
cold spring

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had their say-so
and we get to put it and we definitely

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want to build something
and we definitely need it

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we just
feel that

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my my feel especially is that when you
put up beautiful buildings and and

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things
i just as soon see them in our heart of

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cold spring where we can show it off way
better than in an industrial park on the

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very edge of cold spring that's our my
main goal

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and um
we'll see what happens it it still might

451
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:11,119
all end up out there in a cheaper thing
and we don't know that and so we

452
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,359
apologize for
taking the extra time

453
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:19,839
and and um
maybe stirring up a hornet's nest

454
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:26,880
whatever you want to call it
but i get it i mean that's fine yeah

455
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,599
so you know it the group is really
working good together don't you agree

456
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:33,599
yeah and
uh i'm glad we came together versus two

457
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,960
separate because there was too many
questions back and forth and everybody

458
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,240
is
listen to each other we respect each

459
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,359
other
uh we walk out we smile we talk and and

460
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:47,920
that's the way it should be
and so

461
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,880
one thing
one thing we did talk about was the

462
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:58,880
concern on the one site you gave me
approval to go negotiate on

463
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,160
this the existing soil borings aren't
really where

464
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,720
any structure that
they weren't doing soil borings when

465
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:08,079
they did them
for a building they were doing them for

466
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:12,400
environmental
and so one thing

467
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:15,760
um we need to know is
what's in the spot where the building

468
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,680
may fit so
um

469
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:21,839
i'm
i probably will get some budget some

470
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:26,480
numbers for you and at the may 10th
um

471
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,800
have two bids to do some soil borings
and have a better location because the

472
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:36,560
architect wants the snowboardings where
all the footings are and we're you know

473
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,800
12 15 feet along the walls to see what's
there because they're that outcropping

474
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,599
is a concern of granite we don't know
where it is some of it was

475
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:50,240
at four feet and some of their soil
boring some was at 12. well

476
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,680
the architect was telling us that if if
it's at four feet with granite here and

477
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,160
sand here
you gotta take down the granite

478
00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:03,040
to to put it to make a building that's
level and safe

479
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:06,560
so that's going to be some issues that
will also

480
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:12,160
make that site either way more expensive
or not but we will need to do the soil

481
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:16,320
borne so at the next meeting
are we going to find out the

482
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:21,119
price of the property then too yet or i
know that price oh you do yep

483
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:25,760
okay
it's 368

484
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:30,880
something
which is the price plus the assessments

485
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,920
that are on the what was the number 368
and change 360 790 something like that

486
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,800
that included the assessment that
includes the assessment

487
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,839
what's the size of that

488
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:52,560
i think i can figure it out i'm gonna
take out a lot take out about 32 000 and

489
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:56,000
then divide it by the number the eight
square feet and that'll tell you

490
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,200
i want to say four and a quarter
something like that per square foot

491
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,920
somewhere around there
so um were there other conforming

492
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,480
conditions
not that i know of seven

493
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,760
does the granite company have any other
conditions no

494
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,880
not at this time but they do when they
do purchase agreements so first that we

495
00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:19,760
weren't ready to talk about those
because we were concerned about the soil

496
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,359
boring so they gave us permission to
access the property to do the soil

497
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:24,359
boards

498
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:30,240
and so i will have those numbers for you
for the may 10th meeting

499
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:34,560
to go do those so that we'll have them
ready by

500
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,560
the may 31st

501
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,119
any other questions
thank you

502
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:44,240
appreciate it
thank you thanks you guys

503
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,560
all right
number nine public works director report

504
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,480
john stevie
along with brian lynch

505
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:07,330
my friend
[Laughter]

506
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,520
good evening mr mayor console hi
um

507
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,440
on my list for approvals tonight is the
dog park fencing

508
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,440
um

509
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,400
as you can see it's it's going to be
directly south of where the projected

510
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,400
hockey rink is supposed to go in pioneer
park um there's kind of a nice little

511
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:30,560
spot where it's wasted space per se with
some trees

512
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:34,720
um
200 feet by 58 foot dog park fence it'd

513
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:40,640
be a four foot high
uh black decorative chain length fence

514
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:45,680
the guy that i got the quote from uh
came out and he said it's about the most

515
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,040
common fence that's used for dog park so
there's some different gates that go

516
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:53,200
into it
a standard four foot gate for people

517
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,319
with the dogs and then they'll put
two six foot gates that'll open to 12

518
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,920
feet for the lawn mowers and stuff like
that

519
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:02,800
as you can see it came in at 2100 under
budget

520
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,119
might be the only one this year in 2022
we don't know yet but i was excited

521
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:12,560
about that
um what's the purpose of the dog park

522
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,920
the dog park is for the purpose of it
the purpose is for people to come there

523
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,560
with their dogs and run around let them
run around

524
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,920
they're exercising roomed in is that
what it is i guess so and for

525
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,040
socialization for dogs well
we were approached i mean the park board

526
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,240
was approached many years ago already
about this and we were

527
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,760
we spent a few years trying to figure
out where it would go and

528
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:40,000
get everybody to agree on it and it was
talked about in frog town and then

529
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,680
nobody really liked that idea with the
amount of parties that are down there

530
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:47,599
and kids and everything else so we
landed a spot by in pioneer park that

531
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,800
seemed to work good
um

532
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:55,359
did you say it was under
2100 under budget yep

533
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:59,920
believe that
that sells me

534
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,800
shall you read the record yeah go ahead
and read the recommendation

535
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,839
all right
to approve the installation of a of a

536
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:12,640
dog park fence at pioneer park from
advanced fence and deck llc at a price

537
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:20,079
of
13 919 and 41 cents and furthermore to

538
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:24,160
be paid out of parks department capital
expenditures line item

539
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:28,480
6413.
i need a motion on that

540
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:33,359
make a motion shannon make some motion
how about a second i'll say gonna make

541
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:37,920
seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye all

542
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:40,720
right against motion carries there you
go

543
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,680
all right um the other thing i had just
some updates

544
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,839
um
brian did call the

545
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:50,079
great planes about a logo on our tower
or our standpipe

546
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,440
um
they quoted roughly six thousand dollars

547
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,359
to do that work
so it's something for you guys to think

548
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,640
about we have some time i mean
i don't know we would need to decide

549
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,119
fairly soon
on it

550
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,839
um
because they will be putting up the

551
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,359
steel in
not that long

552
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,160
you know month or so yeah i mean we can
we can easily bring this back to the

553
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,079
next council meeting or something if we
wanted some time to think about it but

554
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:20,400
he did say too if we if it's something
we're interested in he would have this

555
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,720
guy look at it and then come up with a
better cost

556
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,000
and i mean you'd have to figure out too
what you want on it if it's just the

557
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,800
city logo or if you want something
different on it or whatever

558
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,599
i think personally you want to take
advantage of a

559
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:41,119
80-foot tower
and put something on it yeah um does it

560
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:46,000
cost us anything to have him look at it
and give us an actual bid

561
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:49,920
with the city logo yeah i mean i i
i wouldn't guess it's going to be much

562
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:53,599
more than 500 either way if he's telling
us that because yeah it is a bolted

563
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:58,079
steel tank so so that's pretty
straightforward the way it comes it's a

564
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:03,680
vinyl almost like a sticker yeah and so
it costs him a thousand dollars a panel

565
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:08,319
to cut it out to do everything on it and
each panel depending on where the bolt

566
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:12,240
the lines are in the panel in the
steel panels then he needs to do a new

567
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:16,160
sticker for each one of those
he was seeing probably something more

568
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,040
taking our logo and maybe trying to make
it more vertical just because the lung

569
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:22,800
it's
it's a small diameter tank and you start

570
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,480
wrapping it around your mouth people
don't notice it they can't see it yeah

571
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,760
what is a 12 foot diameter
yeah

572
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:32,720
so we could put a baseball on it well
it's

573
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,040
it's a harvester it's a cylinder
yeah it's not a sphere

574
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:41,599
right yeah no yeah it's just a straight
cylinder up yeah

575
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:46,960
it's only 12 feet or 12 feet diameter
you can make it a big baseball bat yeah

576
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:49,760
that's a skinny one
12 feet

577
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:52,880
it's really not
i mean like you see the north and south

578
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:56,640
tower are there for the storage and
everything else this is more to

579
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:02,000
regulate pressure and give the brewery
some capacity if there is power outages

580
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,000
and things like that but

581
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,839
it's not to feed the whole town so
that's why it is quite a bit smaller

582
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,880
so i mean whatever we can talk about it
you guys we can i can put on my report

583
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:19,040
next meeting and
i'm just thinking yeah if you shrinked

584
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:23,040
on our logo to actually fit it so you
when you wrap it you can actually see it

585
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,839
on that on one side or something it's
going to be so small

586
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:31,920
and i'm not even
sure the tower's 80 feet tall

587
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:35,920
the distribution center up there is
got to be close to 40 feet though i

588
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,880
think it's 45. 45. i'm not sure if
you'll even be able to see it anyway

589
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:43,200
from conroe too much that's kind of what
i was thinking you know i would say more

590
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:47,280
so would face towards north point or
something

591
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:52,800
or not at all
so if yeah

592
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:57,119
so for just yeah i don't know
yeah it's up to you guys

593
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,480
we'll talk about saving the money i'll
probably reach out to this guy and or

594
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,000
brian will and
and get an accurate number

595
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,240
and we can bring it in and bring it up
to the next meeting and see what's what

596
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,800
we
sounds good

597
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,240
so yeah
um outside of that the fishing pier is

598
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,000
installed and available looks good to
use yeah it turned out really well the

599
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:20,559
installation went a lot smoother than we
had planned

600
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:24,319
good so yeah
that's all i have unless you have any

601
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:29,359
questions for me you got anything i
don't thanks john thank you thank you

602
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:33,280
go on to number 10 in city engineer
report brian lynch mr mayor council good

603
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,839
evening
um

604
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,480
start going down the list here just some
project updates the 2021

605
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,920
brewery improvements
they've started doing cleanup work there

606
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:48,000
there's going to be more this week
we made some pipe connections and then

607
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,359
in a couple of weeks we'll be
behind the brewery

608
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:56,400
tying the last pieces of pipe in but we
need the bituminous plants to be up and

609
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,400
running first

610
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,880
then it's just going to be waiting on
components for the lift stations getting

611
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,880
them wired etc

612
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,040
the standpipe like we were talking about
the the foundation is in the pipe is

613
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,760
installed
right now we're just waiting on steel

614
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,440
so they have the foundation is kind of
poured in two parts the next piece

615
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,319
actually has some of the steel cast into
it

616
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:25,599
so we're waiting for that and we've
heard some time in june right now okay

617
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,319
so like everything else we're they're
getting delays

618
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:37,280
um the 2022 improvements us brewery
improvements just working on that design

619
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,280
the soil borings are done

620
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,520
last meeting there was a question about
the sidewalk

621
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,440
and
the curb as well would have to go with

622
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,160
it for the block between red river and
fifth avenue

623
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:58,800
rough cost estimate about 75 000 for
that work alone

624
00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:04,240
so it'd be new curb new sidewalk
taking it out

625
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,240
doing everything associated with that

626
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,839
trying to take into account some of the
smaller quantities because we don't have

627
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,839
a ton of it going on
so that's a

628
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,559
don't quote me on 75 000 it's a ballpark
estimate

629
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:20,640
you know
if we got into it we'd have to you know

630
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,319
i could estimate it a little closer but
it's

631
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:27,280
it's not a insignificant piece
of the project so

632
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:32,319
so
um i think if you know we had talked

633
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:35,440
i don't know if it would be something
that could be assessed or not but then

634
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:39,920
if you'd start doing that then you have
to start looking at

635
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:44,400
um feasibility reports other things like
that in order to comply with state

636
00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:48,319
law
and that would all take time

637
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:52,160
that takes time and then
yeah and you

638
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,440
you would almost have to look at it as a
separate project i don't know if it

639
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:58,559
could be tied with this project or not
that's something we probably have to

640
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:02,400
talk to the attorney about
and if you're doing a separate project

641
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:07,839
you just start introducing
a whole lot of other risk factors in

642
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:11,359
timing of work and other things
you have two contract potentially two

643
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:16,160
different contractors
pointing fingers at one another

644
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:20,400
so that's maybe not the ideal
situation is to do it as a separate

645
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:23,359
project but
and to do it

646
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,720
afterwards
not really possible

647
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,599
i wouldn't recommend it because you
already got new

648
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:34,079
you know you'd have new pavement down do
you really want to go in and

649
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:38,559
kind of tear that you know you'd have to
try and protect the new pavement and

650
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:43,040
so basically
there's not going to be no sidewalk

651
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:46,800
there for 25 more years
it all depends on on if

652
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,079
we decide to get in and do it sooner you
could um

653
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:54,160
that's all entirely i guess the
council's decision as to if we want to

654
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:57,760
do the work i mean the work can be done
under as a straight city cost

655
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:06,880
that you open a whole new can of worms
yeah and also

656
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:11,119
for for assessment purposes as well
there's two corner lots that were

657
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,680
already assessed for sidewalk on the
county road two project

658
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:19,760
so those would be ineligible
for assessments on this project

659
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,800
so you've taken the potential number if
you were to assess it the potential

660
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,800
number from six down to four

661
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,760
i guess if there are areas that you know
if there's a couple of bad panels

662
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:38,480
you know some bad joints those sort of
things you know i think those could

663
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:44,160
maybe be
addressed as a city costa a lot cheaper

664
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,960
but you you know so you have to start
looking at the sidewalk all the gravel

665
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,000
that goes with the sidewalk the curb
gravel under the curb

666
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,200
you're going to start redoing driveway
approaches so it starts

667
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,280
it starts adding up in a hurry
especially when we have sidewalk on both

668
00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:02,800
sides one is currently a six footer the
other is a seven

669
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:08,800
which i'm sure done because there isn't
a boulevard there to give it a little

670
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,800
more space for snow plowing so

671
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:18,640
it adds up in a hurry
what if we just tore those sidewalks out

672
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:22,319
and turn it into grass for the landowner
you know you could do that would you it

673
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:27,359
depends then do you want to put in new
curb or you know

674
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:30,000
you could probably pull them out and
leave the curb

675
00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:37,200
what would the cost difference be brian
if we directional board

676
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:40,000
the pipe through that section of
street

677
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,640
instead of open cutting it and we didn't
touch the top ground so that

678
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:50,480
instead of waiting 25 years to complete
a project like that it's

679
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:54,079
maybe turned back into our closer radar
of the other streets downtown

680
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:58,000
fifth has got to be done one of these
years anyway it's bad i mean it can't be

681
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:01,680
left the way it is
you're gonna d you're gonna dig the

682
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:05,200
intersection because you have to
make a 90 degree turn

683
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:08,400
um
we're already directional boring

684
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:11,119
underneath red river yeah
so you were you weren't going to have a

685
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:16,720
lot of open cut in there in the first
place because of that so that might be

686
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:20,480
it might be an option and you just patch
the locations that you need to or maybe

687
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,160
another option if directional boring is
quite a bit higher which we know it

688
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,079
probably is going to be
instead of

689
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:32,000
replacing that whole whole street maybe
we just put a patch in it

690
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:35,359
you know maybe we just dig what's needed
for that section of pipe through that

691
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:40,160
block and
we repave on top of the pipe only and

692
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,640
not the entire street knowing that
this could be part of our project

693
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,240
in the near future here
i don't know until we find a way to stop

694
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:52,400
those trucks from coming down there it's
just gonna it's not gonna last again i

695
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,400
mean it's

696
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,079
there's a lot of weight coming on that
road

697
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,680
i don't know
yeah those are caught between a rock and

698
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,680
a hard place here

699
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,839
yeah that would be
it'd be an option to look at boring the

700
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,839
whole thing

701
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:18,240
patching or patching what we need
yeah even patching what we need is going

702
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:21,440
to put that road in better shape than it
is

703
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:25,280
it can't get worse
i mean that's an option it's not that

704
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,160
much
lineal feed it's

705
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,240
probably only going to amount to it less
than a three-quarter block

706
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,240
because you got that you got
fifth that's got to get done one of

707
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:43,680
these years you got um and by the time
you get back to drill under two you're

708
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,680
you're probably halfway down the block

709
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,799
do you get we got a few streets out in
that

710
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:53,359
second avenue third avenue everything
around the country store general areas

711
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:58,319
yeah first street south there's a lot of
little little projects and

712
00:54:56,079 --> 00:55:02,079
as far as street projects
but maybe when we did if we were to do

713
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,799
third avenue maybe that would be the
time to go back and do you know get a

714
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,640
bigger sidewalk bent because you'd have
those sidewalks there connected with

715
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:15,359
those maybe that'd be a bigger
right yeah if you if you were to

716
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,559
it still would be tough to go back
because you got it you're not going to

717
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,240
really want to replace the curb if you
put in new pavement on the whole street

718
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,559
right because you'll you'll damage that
edge

719
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,839
but if you were to save it to go with
the larger projects down the road you're

720
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:33,520
going to get a better price on
everything right just a higher quantity

721
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:37,040
makes it more difficult too with that
sidewalk being tight against the curb

722
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,040
line too and no boulevard
so they

723
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:43,359
can't really replace the curb
unless they hand pour it i don't know if

724
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:46,160
they'll be able to get their machine
through there with the sidewalk butted

725
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,640
up to it but
the sidewalk or the curb

726
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:54,480
yeah you would they'd hand pour the curb
in there yeah so the labor cost on that

727
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:59,040
i'm sure is up
um

728
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,760
yeah it's a tough spot
if you do it in the future there's

729
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:05,119
options if you wanted to go to one
sidewalk

730
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:08,640
and you could push the road around a
little maybe to get a boulevard it does

731
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:14,400
open up some options if you were going
to fully reconstruct it

732
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:20,000
so we you thought we could patch it
for the time being and then tie that

733
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:23,599
complete project there in with say third
avenue

734
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:26,000
is that what you're suggesting
yeah that would that would definitely be

735
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:30,480
an option
because the you know if that block is

736
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,480
400 feet i think is a standard city
block and that one might be a little

737
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:37,440
less
350 that one is yeah so

738
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,440
with directional boring underneath red
river that machine has to stay back so

739
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:44,799
far anyway
so not

740
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:49,280
that entire 350 feet is not getting tore
up that machine's going to sit back

741
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:54,079
i don't know 100 feet no more yeah at
least probably 200. so 200 feet so that

742
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,160
technically there'd only be 150 feet of
that stream being poured up

743
00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:01,599
fifth avenue where it's going to come
so you'd have 150 foot patch in there

744
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,880
for
hopefully it's next year we approve

745
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,160
those other projects but right you know
i've talked about that at much

746
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,839
that makes some sense to me you know
then you're only tearing up 150 feet of

747
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,720
new pavement
um

748
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:20,160
that might be the best or even
directional boring you're not

749
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:24,160
going that much farther anyway are you
right probably not and then that's one

750
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,440
of the things that now that we have the
soil borings back we really have to

751
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:30,640
start looking at those profile those
boring profiles and how far back do they

752
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:35,200
have to be
and it's probably

753
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:40,559
probably just as just as cheap
directional boring it is as repaving

754
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,599
that that whole top
right well i mean you would if you

755
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:48,720
repave just the over the pipe you don't
need to be owned by the street yeah so

756
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:52,960
just be a patch
but originally they were going to repave

757
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:58,480
that from kirby curb yeah so
i mean you take that out

758
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:02,480
and directional bore that
it's probably not

759
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,200
not much more is it
and not a whole you're going to dig some

760
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:09,200
up i think we're going to have an air
release manhole in there because it'll

761
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:14,960
probably be a high point
yeah you'll dig up probably for sure the

762
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,960
western hundred feet

763
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,480
to put some stuff in

764
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,880
but yeah you're right the the cost
difference by the time you repave it may

765
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,920
not be a whole lot different from just
boring the entire thing

766
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:37,520
and unless i'm missing something that
sounds like a better plan

767
00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:40,559
yeah i think so i think patching that
area that would be the cheapest i think

768
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:45,440
just
based off my construction knowledge yeah

769
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,520
yeah and knowing that
the piece that would be getting patched

770
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:53,200
wouldn't be our expense anyway yeah and
i think especially if if we really feel

771
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,200
strongly that we want to do something
with the sidewalks there i think it's

772
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,240
probably the best option forward well
then tying it in with a third street

773
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:04,480
third avenue project would make some
sense it would

774
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,720
maybe make the class go down some
yeah

775
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:17,190
so now what so
so now what i can uh we haven't want to

776
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,309
get prices on that or
[Music]

777
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:25,200
we're in the design phase right now so
all i have is a

778
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:28,880
a line on paper that says here's where i
want to put the pipe so it's it's not

779
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:33,520
too late to be doing this no it's still
this is this is the perfect time to

780
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,280
look at okay and so i think the first
thing i'll do is i'll look at

781
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:42,240
how far back do we think we would end up
sitting with the directional drill and

782
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:44,839
does it yeah does it make sense okay all
right

783
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:49,760
thank you
yeah let's do that all right

784
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:54,319
absolutely
um

785
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:58,319
otherwise uh water plant just
moving ahead on interior piping moving

786
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,760
ahead on the roof and then
shortly we'll be doing some uh digging

787
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:08,640
in the
in the yard there for a bunch of piping

788
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,880
and then the industrial pre-treatment um
we pushed the bid so originally we were

789
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:17,040
going to bid this thursday
we pushed it to next wednesday

790
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,559
to give them
bitters a little bit more time there

791
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:25,520
were a couple of big
wastewater projects a 30 and a 50

792
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:29,119
million dollar plant that were going
within 10 days of ours and both of those

793
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:33,359
were ahead of ours
so by giving it a little extra time it

794
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:38,559
gives them a couple more days to look at
it sharpen their pencils

795
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:41,680
we don't rush the contractors
and that didn't change any of our

796
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,960
approval dates we're still looking to
bring it to the may 10th

797
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,359
meeting
okay

798
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,760
so
we've gotten a lot of questions so

799
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:55,520
there's good interest
thank you

800
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,040
so that's all that's it
anybody got anything for brian thank you

801
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:06,160
thank you guys thank you
number 11

802
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,160
police department report chief bloom

803
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,960
smear council

804
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:19,520
not a whole lot for me tonight um one
thing is uh we budgeted for a new

805
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,119
squad camera for the new squad that
showed up um which actually just came in

806
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:28,000
last week so
um it's here it's getting decals on it

807
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,520
put on it right now so i'm just looking
uh the one that's the squad that's

808
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:36,400
getting taken out has it corrupted
that's the sro kind of the the

809
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,960
least used squad um during the school
year so

810
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,760
the camera in that one is currently
corrupted so we need to replace that to

811
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:44,960
go into the new squad
okay

812
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:49,599
recommendation
to approve the purchase of a motorola

813
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:55,839
standard
for re dvr squad camera at a price of

814
01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:01,440
five thousand seven hundred and forty
dollars and furthermore to be paid

815
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:07,440
for out of the police department capital
expenditures line item 6413. i need a

816
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:12,000
motion i'll move on
mike makes a motion how about a second

817
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:17,039
second france seconds at any discussion
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

818
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:20,960
against motion carries there you go
thank you um and then one of the other

819
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,079
things i included the cold spring
community policing agreement uh that's

820
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,960
kind of what we've been talking about
over the last several months finally

821
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,480
have a
finished document um for you guys that

822
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:33,680
was included in the packet for you guys
to review

823
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:39,200
um and then there will be a signing
celebration on may 4th at 6 30 p.m at st

824
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:43,599
boniface church
so um

825
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:46,720
what was the time 6 30 6 30. so anybody
from the community is welcome

826
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,280
um
and hopefully uh there'll be i think

827
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,720
some refreshments and then uh cake
provided at that go on here

828
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:02,160
uh last thing for me is
um

829
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:06,559
the speed truck or did anybody have any
questions about the community agreement

830
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:10,720
what time was it again sorry may 4th at
6 30 pm 6 30 yes

831
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:17,440
all right and that yeah st boniface
church so yeah anybody from the

832
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,720
community is welcome um hopefully we
have a good group there and i don't know

833
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:25,670
if they've reached out to you yet dave
but i know they're gonna have ask you to

834
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:29,119
make a statement at that
[Laughter]

835
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:35,359
so we'll work on
figuring something out for you wow

836
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:39,760
[Laughter]
i don't speak

837
01:03:36,590 --> 01:03:43,119
[Laughter]
um outside of that speed truck is out

838
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,760
and about it's over in richmond right
now but if anybody has any uh problem

839
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,119
areas or any anybody watching has any
place that they would like it for a

840
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:55,200
period of time please let us know
and um we will get that out into the

841
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:59,200
community
all right first street

842
01:03:56,839 --> 01:04:02,880
south it'll be on the list i'm sure
it'll be up there

843
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:07,839
how is that uh speed
that um

844
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:12,720
signed sign up there it's actually it's
good information to have and i've heard

845
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,520
other reports of you know you kind of
that 92

846
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:19,200
compliance rate is kind of what you're
shooting for and actually we stay

847
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,799
usually the a lot of months are kind of
averaging a little above that 93 94

848
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,799
compliance rate so we're right in that
ballpark of where

849
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:31,359
the expectation is okay i think that's
pretty good yeah that's all no it it's

850
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:35,839
it's cool information have we had any
complaints from any residents on that

851
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:40,240
street or like since it's been installed
that we know of

852
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:43,839
nothing drastic um like originally when
the road was done

853
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:47,440
um
when it went from construction to nice

854
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,160
new tar again there was a little bit but
i think it was

855
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,920
cars are going again it took a little
bit to get used to and i haven't heard

856
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:58,079
anything since then the lines the lines
slowed people down

857
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,599
it seems that way it just seems
that everything got tighter in there

858
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:09,839
so and i noticed that too is with
baseball going on now even the cars on

859
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,839
there make you slow down quite a bit

860
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,400
[Music]
all right

861
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,839
other than that that's all i have unless
you guys have questions for me they got

862
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:21,839
anything mike you're gonna
give us a report and you're in snow

863
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:26,400
reports because winter's not over yet is
it

864
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:29,599
so it kind of went to a
priority list and since we're probably

865
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,799
not going to get snow anytime soon we've
been really swamped on our end with in

866
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:37,920
custody and different stuff so i we are
working on that we will get that to you

867
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:41,359
but um it kind of got dropped down to
the bottom of the list for right now

868
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:45,680
it's not urgent right so but no yes we
are working before we get to the

869
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:48,559
ordinance issue i think yeah
thank you

870
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:53,119
any other questions
yeah i got questions

871
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,839
i'm down here to address this i always
miss what day it is i don't care if i'm

872
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:59,920
interrupting
but when it comes down to me being

873
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:04,119
harassed for two years and eric boucher
knew that that uh abby

874
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:47,760
yes the first thing i have thank you mr
mayor and council the first thing i have

875
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:50,960
on is the
um

876
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:56,400
arpa reporting so
as you know last fall when we first got

877
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:59,839
our american
rescue

878
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,960
i don't remember what the p stands for
act

879
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
um

880
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:11,039
the federal government gave us
a total in two payments of 484 000 we

881
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:14,799
got the first one already and the
council at that time approved using all

882
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,079
of arpa to pay for the difference
between what the bonding money was for

883
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:21,280
the treatment plant versus the inner
fund loan that we have so it'll reduce

884
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:24,160
the inner fund loan
the arpa reporting at that time was

885
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,079
going to be
i have to fill out and say we're using

886
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:33,839
it on a water project and then there was
going to be very extensive reporting

887
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:38,079
well they gave out to about 7 000
different jurisdictions a lot of money

888
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:42,400
and a lot of them are small
jurisdictions like ours and so they at

889
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:47,200
the final rule they decided anyone who
has less than 10 million can

890
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:51,200
report that they're taking a one-time
allowance the standard deduction similar

891
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:55,359
to standard deduction for tax returns
you don't have to itemize or anything

892
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,079
and so i'm requesting through this
resolution the authority to take that

893
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:02,160
one-time
standard standard i still have to tell

894
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:07,039
them what we're doing with it
but i don't have to do the extensive

895
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:09,760
reporting that a water treatment
project

896
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:13,200
would and i'm sure some of those
communities that are doing that got

897
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,680
40 and 50 million dollars in our
upgrading plants they're gonna go

898
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:19,600
through much more
extensive reporting than our small

899
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:23,199
little city
and so um the league of minnesota cities

900
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:28,000
did recommend that
to take that election that the council

901
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:32,960
direct staff to take the election and so
that's why i wrote that resolution

902
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:37,759
use that resolution for that request
right recommendation

903
01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:41,279
to approve resolution 2022-12
resolution

904
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:44,719
electing the standard allowance
available under the revenue loss

905
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:50,159
provision
of american rescue plan act that's what

906
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:54,960
it stands for i need a motion
i'll make a motion shannon makes motion

907
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:58,000
how about a second
we'll say gonna mike seconds at any

908
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:03,359
discussion
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

909
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:06,159
against motion carries
i just wanted to give you a little

910
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:11,759
update you know when jess green was here
at the last one and you um approved the

911
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,759
resolution with the um

912
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:17,600
setting that interest rate the things
have gone

913
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:23,040
kind of kablooey with interest rates
um

914
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:28,080
now a 19-year structure like we did the
true interest cross would be at 4.247 so

915
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:30,960
it's right below that 4.25 that you
approved

916
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:37,040
um
their desk thinks that part of that

917
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:41,440
number is because about a week ago in 80
million dollar taxable issuance from a

918
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:45,120
texas community
the the bor the um

919
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:49,679
pricing desk thinks that that kind of
skewed government obligation bonds for

920
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,640
the most part they're hoping that will
come down

921
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:56,719
obviously the fed will be next year next
week so that too may have it

922
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:01,760
um
and so if we get the mpca sign off which

923
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:06,400
we're still waiting for the npca permit
we anticipate they will give it before

924
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:11,199
the bids are awarded on may 10th yeah
the

925
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:14,640
29th is the end of the 60 days and
we've been trying to have correspondence

926
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:18,239
with them that
do they anticipate any issues and so far

927
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,440
it's been
very little response they don't

928
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:25,760
anticipate
hopefully they can turn it around and

929
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:29,280
then stage this time frame
so

930
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:33,679
um at this point there's
some options so if mpca gets us that

931
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:37,760
permit and the pricing comes back and it
may be beyond the parameters you can

932
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:42,719
still award the bonds just like you
would award the bid

933
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:47,360
or we can wait to see
um and have a special meeting between

934
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:51,760
the may 10th and may 24th or wait till
the 24th but there's options still but i

935
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,600
wanted to let you know that that that
true interest is

936
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:59,440
butting up to that level but that
doesn't limit you to still

937
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:02,000
award the bonds even though you made the
um

938
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:05,120
the 4.25
true interest rate

939
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:10,000
we can still go over
as long as we price an award on the same

940
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:14,480
day so
so it's just a little um skewed i did

941
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:19,280
talk to
the brewery about that and

942
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:25,040
uh at this point
everything's fine there is a possibility

943
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:28,880
to add a year to it to get it down for
you know they'd like to

944
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:33,840
pay us a certain number of dollars each
year and that's what we were hoping

945
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:37,360
with a 19 year but with the adjustment
to rates it could bump up a little

946
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:41,360
higher so then we're going to see if pfa
would let us add a year to the bond so

947
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,640
that it brings it down to the the number
they

948
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:48,239
budget for if it doesn't happen it'll be
fine but

949
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:52,400
um so i've let them know too but i just
wanted to bring you both all of you up

950
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:54,880
to date on that
all right

951
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:59,520
and with that all i want to say is thank
you shannon for all your

952
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:02,480
support as one of my five bosses in the
last

953
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:07,280
four and a half years so
thank you and good luck thank you

954
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:11,440
does anybody have anything for bridgette
i'd ask you were going to contact the

955
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,480
landowner or something known by speedway
to see if they were going to be taking

956
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:18,480
care of those yep and we've been playing
phone tags so i don't have an answer

957
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,480
okay thank you

958
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:25,360
all right
go on to number 14 no

959
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,800
no 13.
commission updates planning commission

960
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,640
um
i guess we approved everything tonight

961
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,640
that we were talk you talked about so

962
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,719
did everyone give a little synopsis of
ceta

963
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:44,960
and we're gonna wait for the comp plan
we've got the draft comp plan

964
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,920
they promised us that on monday and we
got it on monday

965
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,719
and i've been going through the comp
plan and

966
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:57,280
noticing a few things that need to
probably be drawn attention to but

967
01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:00,719
it's it's a slog
58 pages on the first

968
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,880
and they apologize for
being late they were supposed to be done

969
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:12,880
in march you did promise it for monday
and we got it on monday yeah but no the

970
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,840
the whole the whole comp plan was
supposed to be done yeah

971
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,960
yeah
and

972
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,040
yeah they apologize and but they have
something they said they were going to

973
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,120
make it right
issues

974
01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:27,600
so
they are going to make that right so

975
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,840
um
eda

976
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:35,600
brian
ada was uh the keys saying the jesus uh

977
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:42,560
we'll tell you that was covered
i mean that took up the whole

978
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:48,560
meeting or at last so that was that
park board

979
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:53,120
meets on may 9th okay and record trail
uh record trail is uh we're

980
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:59,280
getting ready i think they're out for
bid on the project so the county does uh

981
01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:03,920
as the fiscal agent puts out the bid and
i believe they're planning to award

982
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:07,520
they're due back may 12th
and then the

983
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,520
uh

984
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:18,080
county commissioners will award but the
record trail board we'll need to do some

985
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:21,840
um approval as well and so that's
probably gonna be in

986
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,199
mid-may or the first june meeting we
might have to have a special recording

987
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:29,360
meeting depending how everything falls
but then construction hopefully will

988
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:33,040
start june good
day in june

989
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:37,600
yep
good i hope so

990
01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:40,480
that's it for that then
number 14

991
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:44,320
list of bills and additions
recommendation to review and accept

992
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:48,800
payment of the accounts payable
according to the list and supplemental

993
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:52,719
list presented by city staff i need a
motion on that

994
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:56,960
i'll make a motion to pay the bills
shannon makes a motion how about a

995
01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:03,040
second second
any discussion on the bills otherwise

996
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:07,679
and all those in favor say aye aye
against motion carries

997
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:11,679
number 15 general questions and comments
from city council

998
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:15,199
i have none i have none
shannon

999
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:19,600
um i just want to thank
and everybody um that i've worked with

1000
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:26,000
on the council and
administrative and everybody

1001
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:29,120
that is a part of the city staff
i appreciate all of you and the hard

1002
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:34,320
work you do
um i

1003
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:37,120
am very honored to have been
on the city council

1004
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,840
for
so long

1005
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:45,280
long enough or whatever we want to call
it

1006
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,920
um
but i just want everyone to remember um

1007
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:57,600
to be a nice human
and um to think of a

1008
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:02,480
just think of it as a small town
and a big family so

1009
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:07,120
just go from there and
everything should be good

1010
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:12,000
thank you yeah thanks
yeah now i want to thank you too

1011
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:17,440
and i have nothing other than that
okay number 16 motion to adjourn i'll

1012
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:21,679
make that brand makes makes emotions
i'll second it my last time

1013
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:26,239
shannon seconds it
all those in favor say aye all right

1014
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:29,239
again motion carries thank you guys very
much

1015
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:52,320
you