[4:47] and i had been watering the last two
years started with the group
[4:52] last year it happened that i was the
only volunteer that came back
[4:56] so i watered mondays and wednesdays and
the city had a young
[5:02] summer helpers a boy and a girl water on
fridays
[5:05] our flowers looked good but they weren't
spectacular and then when i heard they
[5:10] weren't coming back i was very
disappointed and i
[5:15] asked a couple people well do you think
i could
[5:18] do something and so i put an ad in the
paper helped me save the flowers for
[5:23] twenty twenty two
and as of now
[5:28] i have raised nine thousand six hundred
and
[5:31] twenty dollars i believe is the total so
you know that people want our flowers to
[5:37] appear again
um i don't think i would have collected
[5:41] that much money if i had if there wasn't
a need or a liking having them make our
[5:45] city look good
um
[5:49] this is great we're on track
thompson's nursery was told that they
[5:54] weren't going to get the contract back
and i called them right away when i
[5:59] started my
[6:02] advertising to
catch donations or get donations and
[6:07] they said they would hold their flower
order and they did and we
[6:11] have those flowers growing out at
thompson's nursery they're little
[6:16] but
they're gonna grow and they're gonna
[6:18] look great
but when i worked when i started out i
[6:22] called um
a gal that started the flower project in
[6:27] saint joe her name was carol tyson
and carol said surely your flowers look
[6:32] good but i believe they're too tall you
just don't get the dramatic beautiful
[6:36] effect because you have to look up they
should really be kind of at an eye level
[6:44] so my concern then too was um maybe to
lower those and get some new brackets i
[6:52] checked with a manufacturer in saint joe
he was supposed to call me back with a
[6:58] dollar amount today but the city had
kind of what i heard
[7:03] from bridget that the city doesn't want
me to go ahead with any new brackets
[7:07] we'd just like to see them the way they
are
[7:11] well that's
i know we talked about it
[7:14] but
we just we were just worried more
[7:18] when it's lower about vandalism
i went to saint joe today to research
[7:23] that
um i talked to joe bechtold he's one of
[7:26] the guys
they have three gentlemen that have been
[7:30] watering their flowers
and they start at five in the morning
[7:34] there are three dairy farmers that are
retired and they had time so they would
[7:38] get up at five in the morning and water
there they would each take a week in the
[7:43] month
um joe said that yes he did see once
[7:47] some kids stinging around with them
but he
[7:50] told them that if they were going to do
that they were going to water those
[7:54] flowers for the rest of the summer
obviously they didn't really want to
[7:57] work so they didn't mess with them and i
did check with the city hall at saint
[8:02] joe today i talked to a ryan and he said
that they have not had an incident with
[8:08] the police department on any vandalism
although that doesn't mean our bars
[8:12] won't have individuals that might want
to mess with them
[8:16] but
they're they're um i would like ours are
[8:20] 12 feet high st joe's are 10.
so they do the flower baskets then come
[8:26] down about a foot with their leggings
onto the basket
[8:30] um i guess i would like
you to think about it i did take some
[8:35] pictures i could show you their pole
then one other concerned was that the
[8:41] poles would stick out to the city that
it could catch on a truck or something
[8:45] no the poles go just like the rods go
just like they are and they have a metal
[8:51] they're made of steel and they buckle
around the circle and then
[8:56] bolts go through
so they said that they would
[9:00] sustain at least a hundred pound
basket on each side and our baskets
[9:06] approximately with x number of gallons
of water are 80
[9:11] could be up to 80 pounds so i wouldn't
want you to get anything that wasn't
[9:18] certified or you know provided a good
guarantee that something wouldn't happen
[9:24] to the to the
bracket
[9:27] um again i just want to then just tell
you thank you for letting me go ahead
[9:31] with the program
um john's been good about helping me
[9:34] keep that little toro running the last
couple years
[9:39] and i do appreciate that and we are
going to make those flowers look the
[9:43] best we can this summer and you know i
thought even if i could
[9:48] ask if i could get the gentleman to
build me
[9:52] four sets you know i have money in that
kind of that budget that i
[9:57] grew
even if we could hang some and then just
[10:00] see how they do
and see if it is that more effective
[10:05] beautiful ie you know but again that's
up to you and if we want to just leave
[10:10] it this summer that's fine maybe we can
review it again next summer
[10:15] um
the money that i have left over i will
[10:18] just leave in that fund
just to let you know how much i wanted
[10:22] this program i have a thousand dollars
that i put into that fund and we would
[10:26] only need a couple more hundred dollars
so we would have enough money for the
[10:30] flowers for next year already so
you guys would be
[10:35] kind of off the hook
because i i st joe is such a beautiful
[10:40] community and those flowers just pop
and i would like to see that happen for
[10:46] our community especially with the splash
pad and the trails
[10:50] good businesses that people will come to
town with price of gas and still covet
[10:56] hopefully they'll still spend or maybe
more people will come to our community
[11:00] over summer so
thank you for letting me tell me my
[11:04] story and um
thank you thanks really very good thank
[11:08] you yeah thanks really appreciate your
work
[11:11] very good
somebody
[11:18] okay anybody else
not on the agenda that wants to speak
[11:23] otherwise
[11:26] oh
[11:34] otherwise we'll move on to number three
approval of
[11:37] the amended agenda i need a motion to
approve the amended agenda i'll move
[11:43] mike makes a motion how about a second
i'll do it all right
[11:48] any discussion on it otherwise all those
in favor say aye
[11:52] against motion carries
number four consent agenda
[11:56] recommendation to approve the consent
agenda
[11:59] as presented i need a motion on that
i'll make that motion friend makes a
[12:03] motion how about a second
a second shannon seconds it any
[12:08] discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
[12:12] against promotion carries
number five revolving loan fund
[12:16] agreement for khk properties llc
gary keys and greg keys
[12:27] [Music]
[12:32] you have to hold it down a little longer
there you go
[12:37] hello hi hi
uh
[12:40] should i
talk do you wanna i could start okay um
[12:43] so
at the eda meeting earlier this month
[12:48] eda recommended approving a revolving
loan fund
[12:52] agreement with
gary and greg for their khk properties
[12:57] for the demolition of the keys building
there were some
[13:02] at that meeting on that monday which was
the day before last city council meeting
[13:07] there were some adjustments to some of
the language so it had been in your
[13:10] packet but pulled out so what you got
this week was just the new agreement
[13:14] with uh
you had seen the red line
[13:17] i think you saw the red line but it's
now um it's accurate to what it's
[13:21] supposed to be and so it's here now
um
[13:24] for council discussion
okay you guys got anything else
[13:29] i guess i don't know exactly what you
guys have all heard
[13:32] i mean if you're pretty informed i don't
know if there's more for us to discuss
[13:35] if you guys have questions
i mean if you want to give just a quick
[13:38] brief just for the people that might be
watching or sure anyone here yeah so
[13:43] we're
[13:46] um through a partnership
from our grandparents actually
[13:51] and
most people probably realize there's
[13:53] been a lot of environmental
issues concerns
[13:57] my grandparents have done quite a bit of
the work already on that but there's
[14:01] still more to be done
so what we came to you guys with was the
[14:04] requesting
money under the revolving loan fund to
[14:08] tear it down um abate some potential
environmental concerns and things like
[14:14] that um and then
furthermore we're looking to develop the
[14:18] property into something you know down
the road but at this point we're just
[14:21] looking to acquire it get it torn down
and then from there develop it
[14:27] all right thank you
i'm going to read a recommendation then
[14:32] to approve
k properties llc for a
[14:37] loan from the revolving loan fund
of up to 85 000
[14:42] i need a motion i'll make the motion
brand makes the motion how about a
[14:45] second
mic seconds at any discussion
[14:49] otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
against motion carries there you go all
[14:54] right thank you again thanks guys
[14:58] number six resolution
2022-13 a resolution approving
[15:03] a special use permit for grafton
integrated health systems
[15:08] hello hi
i'm lori schmidt i'm the executive
[15:12] director at
grafton um
[15:26] can you hear me now okay i'll start over
yeah under our code
[15:31] fence heights are maxed out at um
six feet
[15:36] in the city code for industrial and
commercial it can be eight feet but
[15:40] under a special use permit it can go up
higher than that
[15:43] and uh grafton has submitted a special
use permit came to planning last week
[15:48] to talk a little bit about the need and
i'll let laurie talk about that in a
[15:51] second
and planning did make a
[15:55] recommendation to approve the special
use but i'll let laurie explain why they
[15:59] need
okay um
[16:01] so we currently had submitted our
original plan with an eight foot fence
[16:06] for
to develop a playground area for
[16:09] the children that will be serving if
you're not familiar with grafton we're
[16:12] developing
a
[16:15] up to 30 bed residential facility for
children with mental health and
[16:21] also
intellectual with disabilities or autism
[16:25] so these are kids that
you know are our experi we'll be out at
[16:29] home and residing in our facility
um
[16:33] anywhere between three and six months
typically
[16:37] but
some of them have behaviors
[16:41] and some of them are non-verbal but very
capable of running and an eight-foot
[16:47] fence creates an obstacle course
as i explained to the planning and
[16:52] zoning
and as i've talked to the police
[16:55] department about
and some of our staff might be able to
[16:59] follow but some of ours might not be
able to jump the fences easily
[17:03] and so
a 12-foot fence is what we have in our
[17:06] existing facility in berryville virginia
and that has been found to be very
[17:11] successful
in preventing
[17:14] children from scaling and leaving the
facility
[17:18] so it's for our children's health and
safety especially with county road 2 so
[17:22] close and with the
semi-traffic going to
[17:26] the
distribution air and brewing
[17:32] um so with all of that we felt that we
really needed to make sure that the
[17:36] children couldn't get out as easily
um there's no barbed wire we plan to do
[17:41] the landscaping around it we don't want
it to look institutional we want it to
[17:45] look very inviting
and
[17:47] and welcoming the last thing we want
people to think is that you have some
[17:51] sort of
you know
[17:54] prisoner they're caged
in there exactly and we wouldn't want
[17:58] anyone to believe that we're caging
children because that's not that's not
[18:01] good for anyone
so
[18:03] we plan to put a nice playground in the
in the area here within the fence and we
[18:08] plan to we're looking at
putting tiles in the fence it's a small
[18:13] length fence not the big chain link
because we don't want their thing the
[18:17] bigger chain links are easier to scale
so we do look at that too
[18:21] um but there's little tiles we can get
to make it more decorative we found out
[18:25] and then we plan to do some greenery
around it and actually try and beautify
[18:29] it around it both inside and outside the
fence line
[18:33] so
with all of that considered i have
[18:36] talked to the chief of police chief
bloom
[18:38] and he was supportive of it
i think he will agree
[18:45] it will reduce the calls
and and risk of children leaving
[18:50] there will be a gate the only vehicles
that can access inside is with the gate
[18:55] opening and that would be our recycling
but at that point children wouldn't be
[18:58] out there
or if there was some reason to do any
[19:01] work in that area of the building
all right
[19:06] i will read the recommendation then
to approve resolution
[19:12] 2022-13 a resolution allowing
for a 12-foot fence at
[19:18] at property located
224 craze mill road
[19:23] in the c3 highway commercial district i
need a motion on that
[19:28] motion shannon makes motion mike second
it yep
[19:31] mike seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
[19:36] against motion carries there you go
thank you very much question for you how
[19:40] many do you have any
children up there or anyone plan to be
[19:44] up there we we've currently acquired our
first of our
[19:48] two licenses okay yeah i know that um so
we have our slf
[19:52] supervised living facility license in
place
[19:56] dhs is coming out on friday to do
a site inspection for our variance
[20:01] license which will allow us to start
taking children
[20:05] um and we have completed our hires but
had to bump our orientation for our
[20:10] final nursing hires
to may
[20:14] 9th i think that's a monday so getting
much closer so we plan we're looking at
[20:19] mid-may for our first
um
[20:22] admits
yeah
[20:24] nice yeah so we're very excited it was
exciting and that will bring families
[20:28] we'll we expect family therapy so we
want our families to come visit the
[20:32] children so that will bring people to
the community so
[20:36] we're putting a list of to-do's
so if you have recommendations of
[20:40] activities for families let us know all
right thank you thank you thank you um
[20:45] leave it on
[20:50] all right number seven
ordinance 400 and ordinance allowing for
[20:55] community centers in the residential
districts by special use
[21:00] yes this is being presented by city
staff myself and
[21:04] some of our admin staff
in the
[21:09] current zoning use
table
[21:13] community centers are not allowed in
residential districts
[21:17] um
there is
[21:20] um coming before you the field house
issue which would fall under the
[21:23] definition of community center and would
not be allowed at the park because
[21:27] that's r1 but in addition and this is an
ongoing issue i keep finding
[21:33] about
three years ago
[21:36] the school district came to me about
some
[21:40] construction and i realized
that
[21:43] schools weren't allowed in the r1
but our schools are zoned in all r1
[21:48] and so
we amended the the city council at that
[21:52] time did a text amendment to put schools
as a special use permit well community
[21:57] centers i don't know if anyone watched
or was at the school board meeting last
[22:01] night they've done their facility
survey and one of the things that's
[22:06] a potential referendum question is about
a community center on their campus
[22:11] for like indoor community rec et cetera
which wouldn't be allowed for them to
[22:16] build on that campus because it's not
allowed right now
[22:19] we don't want to permit some uses that
really need some site you know oversight
[22:25] on traffic flow on size on all those
items that can cause congestion noise et
[22:31] cetera
and so
[22:35] we proposed planning last week
they recommend approving this ordinance
[22:40] to allow
community centers in the r1 by special
[22:43] use so that people have to submit plans
they have to come to you talk to you
[22:48] and you can give them advice and
guidance on what is and isn't allowed
[22:52] so
all right recommendation then
[22:57] to approve ordinance 400 allowing
community centers in residential
[23:02] districts by special use permits i need
a motion on that
[23:07] we'll make a motion
shannon makes a motion
[23:10] mike seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
[23:15] against motion carries
all right number eight construction
[23:20] committee
community survey and site inspection for
[23:25] granite landing
discussion
[23:29] ken kramer and audrey nirenhausen
hello hi
[23:41] so we're just kind of giving an overview
of what we've done the last few meetings
[23:45] right
okay
[23:48] do you want to start i'll start
our first meeting we were separated the
[23:55] we had the two committees
and then our last meeting we brought it
[23:58] together
and we visited
[24:01] saint joe and sartell
and then for the library that was for
[24:04] the pd
and then we got to see the fire station
[24:07] as well in sartell
and then the last one we went to
[24:11] kimball and
we have panadal libraries
[24:15] and then with that we had some
discussion
[24:19] that we've all kind of had different
feedback from community members
[24:23] all of us
you know different people talking to
[24:26] each one of us
and then the architect recommended doing
[24:30] a outside survey or having an outside
third party do a survey so the community
[24:35] could be involved so the community could
give
[24:38] their take on things
and the survey correct me if i'm wrong
[24:42] is
real non-biased
[24:45] so it's
there
[24:48] they get information from all of us
and then they create the questions in a
[24:53] non-biased way to get community members
feedback
[24:57] and then from there
we'll decide how to move forward with
[25:00] the project
and as as to that
[25:06] and i wanted some guidance on this from
all of you so the school district is
[25:10] earlier in their discussions than you
all have been in the city has been for
[25:14] the last year and a half
so
[25:18] the
window's going to be coming on may
[25:23] 10th for our next meeting oh yeah and
they're going to give us all the
[25:27] different layouts that they
you know the committee has said well
[25:31] what about these two together and what
about these two together so the goal is
[25:34] to have the committee come to you with
or tell wendell and then wendell will
[25:39] give a report to you that these are what
the configurations they came up with and
[25:44] these are what the committee is
recommending
[25:46] so the question is
do we do the survey on whether to do
[25:49] anything at all or do we wait and have
the survey be
[25:53] okay at may we're hoping to have that at
a special council meeting on may 31st so
[25:57] on may 31st the council will say
focus on this con these two together and
[26:03] these two together or this one you know
once you've made a overall arching
[26:07] is it two departments together is it
three locations whatever you come up
[26:11] with then survey on cost estimates etc
so i have a question for you bridget i'm
[26:17] sorry to interrupt you can you
are we making sure that all the costs
[26:21] that we're incurring
since
[26:25] this has begun
this new committee and everything um is
[26:30] separated from
the
[26:33] actual
project because i want to see like how
[26:38] much this is costing the city
and then are we really going to be
[26:43] saving money in the end i'm just
ultimately very curious about that
[26:48] um
so that in future in future projects we
[26:52] can say hey no you know what you guys we
actually tried that before and it didn't
[26:57] save us any money it just it just wasted
six months or three months or
[27:03] two months so
since september what so what we paid up
[27:07] through september and then when this
when we stopped and started this new
[27:10] process yes
yeah because it would be
[27:14] it would be just whatever is costing us
on this new process that we're doing
[27:19] until we start the project back up again
in my sense just to see like are we
[27:24] actually going to be saving money or is
it going to just be a wash
[27:29] and we just lost three months worth of
work time so
[27:35] i'm just
out of curiosity yep so i'm going to
[27:39] show up at the next meeting just so i
can vote
[27:45] i can't but
[27:50] [Laughter]
[27:55] um
sure i can i can bring that to the
[27:57] council if they if the remaining council
members want to hear that yeah yeah no
[28:02] no
no i think that'd be something that we
[28:05] should look at yes
[28:09] mike i like the idea of a community
survey and it would seem to me it would
[28:12] make some sense to have it
after this next meeting so they'd have
[28:17] something tangible to look at and see i
know it is really time sensitive do you
[28:22] remember what she said it was it really
had to fall perfectly to get it out
[28:27] um i did call so
because they had a marketing firm do
[28:31] theirs
who's familiar with the cold spring
[28:34] record area i did call the the gentleman
that performed the recory one to ask him
[28:39] about timing and everything and he said
if if you wanted to do it before you
[28:44] even
decide configuration or you wait to
[28:47] configuration of them then you do it and
then you do it either way there's plenty
[28:51] of time there is okay yeah how is this
getting out to the community what they
[28:55] did is a phone survey so they do a
random selection we give them everyone's
[29:01] everyone in the city water like do we
base it off of
[29:05] we would do it on the on the taxpayers
of cold spring so they would get the
[29:09] whole and they would do a random they
got all of the taxpayers of
[29:13] um
mccoy school district and i think they
[29:17] did 24 were from
residents of cold spring
[29:20] and i think it was 18 where wakefield
and 11 11 where richmond and
[29:26] rockville 400
and then the rest were the other
[29:29] outlying um
townships and they get 400 calls and
[29:33] they said that's a plus or minus of 5
so it's
[29:37] like any random telephone survey
and those
[29:41] i didn't ask them but i i would assume
those are quicker to do you know you get
[29:45] the responses back quick and those are
people who answer the phone
[29:49] yeah and they only got and five percent
hang up so out of the
[29:53] they got 400 responses so okay five
percent
[29:57] or cell phones they were doing both they
even they in that survey they said
[30:01] what was it
what were the numbers they broke it down
[30:05] even like how many households that they
surveyed are just cell phone households
[30:10] how many are just landline houses and
how many are both
[30:13] so they explained how they cut they got
people with cell phones they got people
[30:16] with landlines they got people who own
both
[30:19] wasn't the average phone call
approximately 15 minutes yeah some were
[30:23] 45
and others yeah there were
[30:27] it was it i would suggest if you didn't
watch it watch his presentation it was
[30:31] very interesting
it just seems that so many people are
[30:35] getting spam calls all the time no
and
[30:39] you know are people going to pick up or
they're going to come across a spam
[30:42] caller i i don't know but they ended up
getting 400 so
[30:46] i don't know how many didn't pick up
but they got 400 responses so i don't
[30:50] know what the number of total calls 800
people to get 400 right i don't know i
[30:55] have to find that out i don't think they
only call them 400. probably or
[30:59] something could be they only called 400.
they only called 400 and it was if i'm
[31:04] not mistaken four percent
hung up on them the rest of them oh okay
[31:09] that's how that's how that works answer
one way or the other forward against
[31:13] them whatever some were shorter but
you're right up to 45 minutes was some
[31:18] discussions yeah
so
[31:21] and i think that cost 16 000 yeah he
gave me a proposal that if we're doing
[31:26] it as the after you know when you
already say
[31:30] okay fire and police are going to be
together city hall or on this location
[31:34] once a decision on
what the makeup of each
[31:37] structure would be
it would then be a survey based on that
[31:41] and that's 12 000.
so you said so that would only be 16
[31:45] people who didn't
partake in the survey out of 400.
[31:51] 16 people would i there has to be more
people that didn't answer their phone i
[31:54] can't imagine it would be
only 16 people out of 400.
[31:58] there was a lot of publicity with that
survey though so people may be expecting
[32:03] yeah and we would do that to
anticipating it and the architect did
[32:06] say that too to put it in the paper we
would put it everywhere
[32:10] if they're anticipating that and then
that's different yeah and we would do
[32:13] that if that's what you want to do
so i think it would be nice for the
[32:18] community to feel like they have a voice
involved yeah that they're involved
[32:22] because whenever anyone has said things
to me and i say go to a meeting tuesday
[32:26] night
that's exactly that's what i get no i'm
[32:29] not going i'm not quite no i'm not going
to that but this way
[32:32] they can voice their opinion be part of
it and then they can't and they can be
[32:36] anonymous yeah and they can't complain
if it you know they had their voice they
[32:40] had their chance
perfect yep you got to take action on
[32:43] that no i don't think at this time i
think at may 10th we'll
[32:47] we'll have more from we meet that
morning or
[32:50] that late afternoon or something like
that
[32:52] and i'll have some more information and
then probably at that point discuss with
[32:56] you if you want to go on with the survey
in it in which way you want to do it be
[33:00] pre-determination of who goes with who
or post because the tenth is when we
[33:05] look at the plans for the latest when we
make the recommendation to you
[33:09] but you won't get that report until may
31st so
[33:12] do we do the survey
based on what the recommendation is
[33:16] going to be to you or wait till you make
a decision
[33:19] on what
you're probably going to get two or
[33:21] three different
configurations so
[33:25] do you want it based on those two or do
you want it based on what you decide and
[33:29] then we can put dollar numbers on that
as well because if it's
[33:32] library and city hall and police are
going here or fire's going here then we
[33:36] can do a better estimate on how much
each thing is going to cost
[33:40] so i think we would want to do it after
the 31st but definitely advertise that
[33:44] we're going to be doing it once you make
that decision i think my thought is one
[33:48] of the questions the community would
have is what's the cost
[33:52] right
and we can't get that until the 31st out
[33:56] of the survey at school they didn't have
dollars and
[34:00] he stressed very much that
okay do you want a field house well a
[34:05] lot of
i was a very high percentage like 70
[34:09] some percent said yes
but what is it gonna cost us
[34:14] and they didn't have dollars so when
they when they showed their surveys and
[34:18] all their slides
you know was a lot in favor
[34:24] but
and then it came down to the money money
[34:29] how much is this going to cost us you
know and this this here project is the
[34:33] same thing
i will say
[34:37] the tours
did a lot for me
[34:42] um
i definitely had some questions with our
[34:47] police space
and i really think
[34:52] talking to other police officers and
things uh
[34:56] i was really
surprised in in what's needed
[35:01] and uh how things work today versus they
did when i was on the force
[35:06] and um
so my mind was changed in in a different
[35:11] direction on a lot of things with our
police department
[35:17] i do have to say
that i'm very proud of bridget
[35:21] [Music]
she is the most conservative one in this
[35:24] whole process
she by far
[35:28] is not
expecting
[35:31] extra space in case
and um so hands to you
[35:38] in in your help in this whole process
and stuff
[35:42] um i think things are going very well
i think things are coming together i get
[35:48] your frustration
on this whole thing i i mean i really do
[35:55] but you got to look at it as the
taxpayer side of the two that we didn't
[35:59] know anything about this i've been on
these departments
[36:03] i still feel that it shouldn't be out of
town it should be in our heart of town
[36:09] and that part did not change but
location
[36:13] might change that whole thing where we
might end up back out there if it does
[36:18] cost
the same
[36:22] well so be it
i mean
[36:25] at least the citizens and taxpayers of
cold spring
[36:29] had their say-so
and we get to put it and we definitely
[36:33] want to build something
and we definitely need it
[36:39] we just
feel that
[36:42] my my feel especially is that when you
put up beautiful buildings and and
[36:47] things
i just as soon see them in our heart of
[36:51] cold spring where we can show it off way
better than in an industrial park on the
[36:56] very edge of cold spring that's our my
main goal
[37:00] and um
we'll see what happens it it still might
[37:03] all end up out there in a cheaper thing
and we don't know that and so we
[37:08] apologize for
taking the extra time
[37:13] and and um
maybe stirring up a hornet's nest
[37:17] whatever you want to call it
but i get it i mean that's fine yeah
[37:24] so you know it the group is really
working good together don't you agree
[37:28] yeah and
uh i'm glad we came together versus two
[37:32] separate because there was too many
questions back and forth and everybody
[37:36] is
listen to each other we respect each
[37:39] other
uh we walk out we smile we talk and and
[37:43] that's the way it should be
and so
[37:47] one thing
one thing we did talk about was the
[37:50] concern on the one site you gave me
approval to go negotiate on
[37:56] this the existing soil borings aren't
really where
[38:00] any structure that
they weren't doing soil borings when
[38:03] they did them
for a building they were doing them for
[38:06] environmental
and so one thing
[38:10] um we need to know is
what's in the spot where the building
[38:14] may fit so
um
[38:16] i'm
i probably will get some budget some
[38:19] numbers for you and at the may 10th
um
[38:24] have two bids to do some soil borings
and have a better location because the
[38:29] architect wants the snowboardings where
all the footings are and we're you know
[38:34] 12 15 feet along the walls to see what's
there because they're that outcropping
[38:38] is a concern of granite we don't know
where it is some of it was
[38:43] at four feet and some of their soil
boring some was at 12. well
[38:48] the architect was telling us that if if
it's at four feet with granite here and
[38:52] sand here
you gotta take down the granite
[38:56] to to put it to make a building that's
level and safe
[39:00] so that's going to be some issues that
will also
[39:04] make that site either way more expensive
or not but we will need to do the soil
[39:08] borne so at the next meeting
are we going to find out the
[39:13] price of the property then too yet or i
know that price oh you do yep
[39:19] okay
it's 368
[39:24] something
which is the price plus the assessments
[39:28] that are on the what was the number 368
and change 360 790 something like that
[39:34] that included the assessment that
includes the assessment
[39:40] what's the size of that
[39:45] i think i can figure it out i'm gonna
take out a lot take out about 32 000 and
[39:50] then divide it by the number the eight
square feet and that'll tell you
[39:54] i want to say four and a quarter
something like that per square foot
[39:59] somewhere around there
so um were there other conforming
[40:04] conditions
not that i know of seven
[40:08] does the granite company have any other
conditions no
[40:11] not at this time but they do when they
do purchase agreements so first that we
[40:15] weren't ready to talk about those
because we were concerned about the soil
[40:18] boring so they gave us permission to
access the property to do the soil
[40:21] boards
[40:24] and so i will have those numbers for you
for the may 10th meeting
[40:28] to go do those so that we'll have them
ready by
[40:31] the may 31st
[40:36] any other questions
thank you
[40:39] appreciate it
thank you thanks you guys
[40:47] all right
number nine public works director report
[40:50] john stevie
along with brian lynch
[41:01] my friend
[Laughter]
[41:07] good evening mr mayor console hi
um
[41:11] on my list for approvals tonight is the
dog park fencing
[41:15] um
[41:18] as you can see it's it's going to be
directly south of where the projected
[41:22] hockey rink is supposed to go in pioneer
park um there's kind of a nice little
[41:26] spot where it's wasted space per se with
some trees
[41:29] um
200 feet by 58 foot dog park fence it'd
[41:32] be a four foot high
uh black decorative chain length fence
[41:38] the guy that i got the quote from uh
came out and he said it's about the most
[41:42] common fence that's used for dog park so
there's some different gates that go
[41:47] into it
a standard four foot gate for people
[41:50] with the dogs and then they'll put
two six foot gates that'll open to 12
[41:54] feet for the lawn mowers and stuff like
that
[41:57] as you can see it came in at 2100 under
budget
[42:00] might be the only one this year in 2022
we don't know yet but i was excited
[42:04] about that
um what's the purpose of the dog park
[42:10] the dog park is for the purpose of it
the purpose is for people to come there
[42:13] with their dogs and run around let them
run around
[42:18] they're exercising roomed in is that
what it is i guess so and for
[42:23] socialization for dogs well
we were approached i mean the park board
[42:27] was approached many years ago already
about this and we were
[42:30] we spent a few years trying to figure
out where it would go and
[42:33] get everybody to agree on it and it was
talked about in frog town and then
[42:38] nobody really liked that idea with the
amount of parties that are down there
[42:41] and kids and everything else so we
landed a spot by in pioneer park that
[42:45] seemed to work good
um
[42:49] did you say it was under
2100 under budget yep
[42:53] believe that
that sells me
[42:58] shall you read the record yeah go ahead
and read the recommendation
[43:01] all right
to approve the installation of a of a
[43:05] dog park fence at pioneer park from
advanced fence and deck llc at a price
[43:11] of
13 919 and 41 cents and furthermore to
[43:17] be paid out of parks department capital
expenditures line item
[43:22] 6413.
i need a motion on that
[43:26] make a motion shannon make some motion
how about a second i'll say gonna make
[43:30] seconds at any discussion on it
otherwise all those in favor say aye all
[43:35] right against motion carries there you
go
[43:38] all right um the other thing i had just
some updates
[43:42] um
brian did call the
[43:45] great planes about a logo on our tower
or our standpipe
[43:49] um
they quoted roughly six thousand dollars
[43:51] to do that work
so it's something for you guys to think
[43:54] about we have some time i mean
i don't know we would need to decide
[43:59] fairly soon
on it
[44:01] um
because they will be putting up the
[44:04] steel in
not that long
[44:07] you know month or so yeah i mean we can
we can easily bring this back to the
[44:10] next council meeting or something if we
wanted some time to think about it but
[44:14] he did say too if we if it's something
we're interested in he would have this
[44:18] guy look at it and then come up with a
better cost
[44:23] and i mean you'd have to figure out too
what you want on it if it's just the
[44:26] city logo or if you want something
different on it or whatever
[44:30] i think personally you want to take
advantage of a
[44:34] 80-foot tower
and put something on it yeah um does it
[44:38] cost us anything to have him look at it
and give us an actual bid
[44:43] with the city logo yeah i mean i i
i wouldn't guess it's going to be much
[44:47] more than 500 either way if he's telling
us that because yeah it is a bolted
[44:51] steel tank so so that's pretty
straightforward the way it comes it's a
[44:55] vinyl almost like a sticker yeah and so
it costs him a thousand dollars a panel
[45:01] to cut it out to do everything on it and
each panel depending on where the bolt
[45:05] the lines are in the panel in the
steel panels then he needs to do a new
[45:10] sticker for each one of those
he was seeing probably something more
[45:14] taking our logo and maybe trying to make
it more vertical just because the lung
[45:18] it's
it's a small diameter tank and you start
[45:21] wrapping it around your mouth people
don't notice it they can't see it yeah
[45:24] what is a 12 foot diameter
yeah
[45:27] so we could put a baseball on it well
it's
[45:30] it's a harvester it's a cylinder
yeah it's not a sphere
[45:35] right yeah no yeah it's just a straight
cylinder up yeah
[45:38] it's only 12 feet or 12 feet diameter
you can make it a big baseball bat yeah
[45:44] that's a skinny one
12 feet
[45:48] it's really not
i mean like you see the north and south
[45:51] tower are there for the storage and
everything else this is more to
[45:54] regulate pressure and give the brewery
some capacity if there is power outages
[45:59] and things like that but
[46:02] it's not to feed the whole town so
that's why it is quite a bit smaller
[46:09] so i mean whatever we can talk about it
you guys we can i can put on my report
[46:13] next meeting and
i'm just thinking yeah if you shrinked
[46:16] on our logo to actually fit it so you
when you wrap it you can actually see it
[46:20] on that on one side or something it's
going to be so small
[46:25] and i'm not even
sure the tower's 80 feet tall
[46:29] the distribution center up there is
got to be close to 40 feet though i
[46:33] think it's 45. 45. i'm not sure if
you'll even be able to see it anyway
[46:37] from conroe too much that's kind of what
i was thinking you know i would say more
[46:40] so would face towards north point or
something
[46:45] or not at all
so if yeah
[46:49] so for just yeah i don't know
yeah it's up to you guys
[46:55] we'll talk about saving the money i'll
probably reach out to this guy and or
[46:59] brian will and
and get an accurate number
[47:02] and we can bring it in and bring it up
to the next meeting and see what's what
[47:05] we
sounds good
[47:07] so yeah
um outside of that the fishing pier is
[47:10] installed and available looks good to
use yeah it turned out really well the
[47:14] installation went a lot smoother than we
had planned
[47:17] good so yeah
that's all i have unless you have any
[47:21] questions for me you got anything i
don't thanks john thank you thank you
[47:27] go on to number 10 in city engineer
report brian lynch mr mayor council good
[47:32] evening
um
[47:34] start going down the list here just some
project updates the 2021
[47:38] brewery improvements
they've started doing cleanup work there
[47:42] there's going to be more this week
we made some pipe connections and then
[47:45] in a couple of weeks we'll be
behind the brewery
[47:49] tying the last pieces of pipe in but we
need the bituminous plants to be up and
[47:53] running first
[47:56] then it's just going to be waiting on
components for the lift stations getting
[47:59] them wired etc
[48:03] the standpipe like we were talking about
the the foundation is in the pipe is
[48:07] installed
right now we're just waiting on steel
[48:11] so they have the foundation is kind of
poured in two parts the next piece
[48:15] actually has some of the steel cast into
it
[48:18] so we're waiting for that and we've
heard some time in june right now okay
[48:23] so like everything else we're they're
getting delays
[48:28] um the 2022 improvements us brewery
improvements just working on that design
[48:34] the soil borings are done
[48:37] last meeting there was a question about
the sidewalk
[48:42] and
the curb as well would have to go with
[48:45] it for the block between red river and
fifth avenue
[48:50] rough cost estimate about 75 000 for
that work alone
[48:55] so it'd be new curb new sidewalk
taking it out
[49:00] doing everything associated with that
[49:04] trying to take into account some of the
smaller quantities because we don't have
[49:07] a ton of it going on
so that's a
[49:11] don't quote me on 75 000 it's a ballpark
estimate
[49:15] you know
if we got into it we'd have to you know
[49:18] i could estimate it a little closer but
it's
[49:21] it's not a insignificant piece
of the project so
[49:27] so
um i think if you know we had talked
[49:31] i don't know if it would be something
that could be assessed or not but then
[49:33] if you'd start doing that then you have
to start looking at
[49:37] um feasibility reports other things like
that in order to comply with state
[49:42] law
and that would all take time
[49:46] that takes time and then
yeah and you
[49:50] you would almost have to look at it as a
separate project i don't know if it
[49:53] could be tied with this project or not
that's something we probably have to
[49:56] talk to the attorney about
and if you're doing a separate project
[50:00] you just start introducing
a whole lot of other risk factors in
[50:05] timing of work and other things
you have two contract potentially two
[50:09] different contractors
pointing fingers at one another
[50:14] so that's maybe not the ideal
situation is to do it as a separate
[50:17] project but
and to do it
[50:21] afterwards
not really possible
[50:25] i wouldn't recommend it because you
already got new
[50:28] you know you'd have new pavement down do
you really want to go in and
[50:32] kind of tear that you know you'd have to
try and protect the new pavement and
[50:36] so basically
there's not going to be no sidewalk
[50:39] there for 25 more years
it all depends on on if
[50:45] we decide to get in and do it sooner you
could um
[50:48] that's all entirely i guess the
council's decision as to if we want to
[50:52] do the work i mean the work can be done
under as a straight city cost
[50:59] that you open a whole new can of worms
yeah and also
[51:04] for for assessment purposes as well
there's two corner lots that were
[51:09] already assessed for sidewalk on the
county road two project
[51:12] so those would be ineligible
for assessments on this project
[51:18] so you've taken the potential number if
you were to assess it the potential
[51:21] number from six down to four
[51:28] i guess if there are areas that you know
if there's a couple of bad panels
[51:33] you know some bad joints those sort of
things you know i think those could
[51:36] maybe be
addressed as a city costa a lot cheaper
[51:42] but you you know so you have to start
looking at the sidewalk all the gravel
[51:46] that goes with the sidewalk the curb
gravel under the curb
[51:50] you're going to start redoing driveway
approaches so it starts
[51:53] it starts adding up in a hurry
especially when we have sidewalk on both
[51:57] sides one is currently a six footer the
other is a seven
[52:00] which i'm sure done because there isn't
a boulevard there to give it a little
[52:05] more space for snow plowing so
[52:09] it adds up in a hurry
what if we just tore those sidewalks out
[52:13] and turn it into grass for the landowner
you know you could do that would you it
[52:21] depends then do you want to put in new
curb or you know
[52:23] you could probably pull them out and
leave the curb
[52:30] what would the cost difference be brian
if we directional board
[52:34] the pipe through that section of
street
[52:38] instead of open cutting it and we didn't
touch the top ground so that
[52:42] instead of waiting 25 years to complete
a project like that it's
[52:46] maybe turned back into our closer radar
of the other streets downtown
[52:52] fifth has got to be done one of these
years anyway it's bad i mean it can't be
[52:56] left the way it is
you're gonna d you're gonna dig the
[52:59] intersection because you have to
make a 90 degree turn
[53:03] um
we're already directional boring
[53:06] underneath red river yeah
so you were you weren't going to have a
[53:09] lot of open cut in there in the first
place because of that so that might be
[53:14] it might be an option and you just patch
the locations that you need to or maybe
[53:18] another option if directional boring is
quite a bit higher which we know it
[53:22] probably is going to be
instead of
[53:26] replacing that whole whole street maybe
we just put a patch in it
[53:30] you know maybe we just dig what's needed
for that section of pipe through that
[53:33] block and
we repave on top of the pipe only and
[53:37] not the entire street knowing that
this could be part of our project
[53:42] in the near future here
i don't know until we find a way to stop
[53:46] those trucks from coming down there it's
just gonna it's not gonna last again i
[53:50] mean it's
[53:52] there's a lot of weight coming on that
road
[53:58] i don't know
yeah those are caught between a rock and
[54:00] a hard place here
[54:05] yeah that would be
it'd be an option to look at boring the
[54:08] whole thing
[54:12] patching or patching what we need
yeah even patching what we need is going
[54:16] to put that road in better shape than it
is
[54:19] it can't get worse
i mean that's an option it's not that
[54:23] much
lineal feed it's
[54:28] probably only going to amount to it less
than a three-quarter block
[54:32] because you got that you got
fifth that's got to get done one of
[54:35] these years you got um and by the time
you get back to drill under two you're
[54:40] you're probably halfway down the block
[54:44] do you get we got a few streets out in
that
[54:47] second avenue third avenue everything
around the country store general areas
[54:51] yeah first street south there's a lot of
little little projects and
[54:56] as far as street projects
but maybe when we did if we were to do
[55:00] third avenue maybe that would be the
time to go back and do you know get a
[55:04] bigger sidewalk bent because you'd have
those sidewalks there connected with
[55:08] those maybe that'd be a bigger
right yeah if you if you were to
[55:13] it still would be tough to go back
because you got it you're not going to
[55:16] really want to replace the curb if you
put in new pavement on the whole street
[55:20] right because you'll you'll damage that
edge
[55:24] but if you were to save it to go with
the larger projects down the road you're
[55:28] going to get a better price on
everything right just a higher quantity
[55:32] makes it more difficult too with that
sidewalk being tight against the curb
[55:34] line too and no boulevard
so they
[55:38] can't really replace the curb
unless they hand pour it i don't know if
[55:42] they'll be able to get their machine
through there with the sidewalk butted
[55:44] up to it but
the sidewalk or the curb
[55:48] yeah you would they'd hand pour the curb
in there yeah so the labor cost on that
[55:52] i'm sure is up
um
[55:56] yeah it's a tough spot
if you do it in the future there's
[56:00] options if you wanted to go to one
sidewalk
[56:03] and you could push the road around a
little maybe to get a boulevard it does
[56:07] open up some options if you were going
to fully reconstruct it
[56:11] so we you thought we could patch it
for the time being and then tie that
[56:17] complete project there in with say third
avenue
[56:21] is that what you're suggesting
yeah that would that would definitely be
[56:24] an option
because the you know if that block is
[56:28] 400 feet i think is a standard city
block and that one might be a little
[56:31] less
350 that one is yeah so
[56:35] with directional boring underneath red
river that machine has to stay back so
[56:39] far anyway
so not
[56:42] that entire 350 feet is not getting tore
up that machine's going to sit back
[56:47] i don't know 100 feet no more yeah at
least probably 200. so 200 feet so that
[56:52] technically there'd only be 150 feet of
that stream being poured up
[56:55] fifth avenue where it's going to come
so you'd have 150 foot patch in there
[57:00] for
hopefully it's next year we approve
[57:02] those other projects but right you know
i've talked about that at much
[57:06] that makes some sense to me you know
then you're only tearing up 150 feet of
[57:11] new pavement
um
[57:15] that might be the best or even
directional boring you're not
[57:18] going that much farther anyway are you
right probably not and then that's one
[57:22] of the things that now that we have the
soil borings back we really have to
[57:25] start looking at those profile those
boring profiles and how far back do they
[57:29] have to be
and it's probably
[57:32] probably just as just as cheap
directional boring it is as repaving
[57:37] that that whole top
right well i mean you would if you
[57:41] repave just the over the pipe you don't
need to be owned by the street yeah so
[57:46] just be a patch
but originally they were going to repave
[57:50] that from kirby curb yeah so
i mean you take that out
[57:55] and directional bore that
it's probably not
[58:00] not much more is it
and not a whole you're going to dig some
[58:04] up i think we're going to have an air
release manhole in there because it'll
[58:06] probably be a high point
yeah you'll dig up probably for sure the
[58:11] western hundred feet
[58:15] to put some stuff in
[58:21] but yeah you're right the the cost
difference by the time you repave it may
[58:25] not be a whole lot different from just
boring the entire thing
[58:31] and unless i'm missing something that
sounds like a better plan
[58:35] yeah i think so i think patching that
area that would be the cheapest i think
[58:39] just
based off my construction knowledge yeah
[58:43] yeah and knowing that
the piece that would be getting patched
[58:46] wouldn't be our expense anyway yeah and
i think especially if if we really feel
[58:51] strongly that we want to do something
with the sidewalks there i think it's
[58:55] probably the best option forward well
then tying it in with a third street
[58:58] third avenue project would make some
sense it would
[59:02] maybe make the class go down some
yeah
[59:11] so now what so
so now what i can uh we haven't want to
[59:15] get prices on that or
[Music]
[59:20] we're in the design phase right now so
all i have is a
[59:23] a line on paper that says here's where i
want to put the pipe so it's it's not
[59:26] too late to be doing this no it's still
this is this is the perfect time to
[59:31] look at okay and so i think the first
thing i'll do is i'll look at
[59:35] how far back do we think we would end up
sitting with the directional drill and
[59:39] does it yeah does it make sense okay all
right
[59:43] thank you
yeah let's do that all right
[59:47] absolutely
um
[59:51] otherwise uh water plant just
moving ahead on interior piping moving
[59:56] ahead on the roof and then
shortly we'll be doing some uh digging
[1:00:00] in the
in the yard there for a bunch of piping
[1:00:05] and then the industrial pre-treatment um
we pushed the bid so originally we were
[1:00:10] going to bid this thursday
we pushed it to next wednesday
[1:00:16] to give them
bitters a little bit more time there
[1:00:18] were a couple of big
wastewater projects a 30 and a 50
[1:00:22] million dollar plant that were going
within 10 days of ours and both of those
[1:00:27] were ahead of ours
so by giving it a little extra time it
[1:00:31] gives them a couple more days to look at
it sharpen their pencils
[1:00:36] we don't rush the contractors
and that didn't change any of our
[1:00:40] approval dates we're still looking to
bring it to the may 10th
[1:00:43] meeting
okay
[1:00:45] so
we've gotten a lot of questions so
[1:00:48] there's good interest
thank you
[1:00:53] so that's all that's it
anybody got anything for brian thank you
[1:00:58] thank you guys thank you
number 11
[1:01:02] police department report chief bloom
[1:01:08] smear council
[1:01:12] not a whole lot for me tonight um one
thing is uh we budgeted for a new
[1:01:17] squad camera for the new squad that
showed up um which actually just came in
[1:01:21] last week so
um it's here it's getting decals on it
[1:01:26] put on it right now so i'm just looking
uh the one that's the squad that's
[1:01:30] getting taken out has it corrupted
that's the sro kind of the the
[1:01:33] least used squad um during the school
year so
[1:01:37] the camera in that one is currently
corrupted so we need to replace that to
[1:01:40] go into the new squad
okay
[1:01:43] recommendation
to approve the purchase of a motorola
[1:01:47] standard
for re dvr squad camera at a price of
[1:01:54] five thousand seven hundred and forty
dollars and furthermore to be paid
[1:01:58] for out of the police department capital
expenditures line item 6413. i need a
[1:02:05] motion i'll move on
mike makes a motion how about a second
[1:02:09] second france seconds at any discussion
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
[1:02:14] against motion carries there you go
thank you um and then one of the other
[1:02:19] things i included the cold spring
community policing agreement uh that's
[1:02:22] kind of what we've been talking about
over the last several months finally
[1:02:25] have a
finished document um for you guys that
[1:02:29] was included in the packet for you guys
to review
[1:02:31] um and then there will be a signing
celebration on may 4th at 6 30 p.m at st
[1:02:37] boniface church
so um
[1:02:40] what was the time 6 30 6 30. so anybody
from the community is welcome
[1:02:45] um
and hopefully uh there'll be i think
[1:02:49] some refreshments and then uh cake
provided at that go on here
[1:02:56] uh last thing for me is
um
[1:03:00] the speed truck or did anybody have any
questions about the community agreement
[1:03:04] what time was it again sorry may 4th at
6 30 pm 6 30 yes
[1:03:13] all right and that yeah st boniface
church so yeah anybody from the
[1:03:16] community is welcome um hopefully we
have a good group there and i don't know
[1:03:19] if they've reached out to you yet dave
but i know they're gonna have ask you to
[1:03:22] make a statement at that
[Laughter]
[1:03:27] so we'll work on
figuring something out for you wow
[1:03:31] [Laughter]
i don't speak
[1:03:36] [Laughter]
um outside of that speed truck is out
[1:03:41] and about it's over in richmond right
now but if anybody has any uh problem
[1:03:45] areas or any anybody watching has any
place that they would like it for a
[1:03:49] period of time please let us know
and um we will get that out into the
[1:03:53] community
all right first street
[1:03:56] south it'll be on the list i'm sure
it'll be up there
[1:04:00] how is that uh speed
that um
[1:04:04] signed sign up there it's actually it's
good information to have and i've heard
[1:04:10] other reports of you know you kind of
that 92
[1:04:14] compliance rate is kind of what you're
shooting for and actually we stay
[1:04:17] usually the a lot of months are kind of
averaging a little above that 93 94
[1:04:21] compliance rate so we're right in that
ballpark of where
[1:04:24] the expectation is okay i think that's
pretty good yeah that's all no it it's
[1:04:28] it's cool information have we had any
complaints from any residents on that
[1:04:33] street or like since it's been installed
that we know of
[1:04:37] nothing drastic um like originally when
the road was done
[1:04:41] um
when it went from construction to nice
[1:04:45] new tar again there was a little bit but
i think it was
[1:04:48] cars are going again it took a little
bit to get used to and i haven't heard
[1:04:51] anything since then the lines the lines
slowed people down
[1:04:55] it seems that way it just seems
that everything got tighter in there
[1:05:02] so and i noticed that too is with
baseball going on now even the cars on
[1:05:06] there make you slow down quite a bit
[1:05:09] [Music]
all right
[1:05:12] other than that that's all i have unless
you guys have questions for me they got
[1:05:15] anything mike you're gonna
give us a report and you're in snow
[1:05:19] reports because winter's not over yet is
it
[1:05:23] so it kind of went to a
priority list and since we're probably
[1:05:28] not going to get snow anytime soon we've
been really swamped on our end with in
[1:05:30] custody and different stuff so i we are
working on that we will get that to you
[1:05:34] but um it kind of got dropped down to
the bottom of the list for right now
[1:05:39] it's not urgent right so but no yes we
are working before we get to the
[1:05:42] ordinance issue i think yeah
thank you
[1:05:47] any other questions
yeah i got questions
[1:05:51] i'm down here to address this i always
miss what day it is i don't care if i'm
[1:05:54] interrupting
but when it comes down to me being
[1:05:57] harassed for two years and eric boucher
knew that that uh abby
[1:06:42] yes the first thing i have thank you mr
mayor and council the first thing i have
[1:06:46] on is the
um
[1:06:49] arpa reporting so
as you know last fall when we first got
[1:06:53] our american
rescue
[1:06:57] i don't remember what the p stands for
act
[1:07:00] um
[1:07:03] the federal government gave us
a total in two payments of 484 000 we
[1:07:09] got the first one already and the
council at that time approved using all
[1:07:13] of arpa to pay for the difference
between what the bonding money was for
[1:07:16] the treatment plant versus the inner
fund loan that we have so it'll reduce
[1:07:19] the inner fund loan
the arpa reporting at that time was
[1:07:23] going to be
i have to fill out and say we're using
[1:07:26] it on a water project and then there was
going to be very extensive reporting
[1:07:31] well they gave out to about 7 000
different jurisdictions a lot of money
[1:07:37] and a lot of them are small
jurisdictions like ours and so they at
[1:07:40] the final rule they decided anyone who
has less than 10 million can
[1:07:44] report that they're taking a one-time
allowance the standard deduction similar
[1:07:49] to standard deduction for tax returns
you don't have to itemize or anything
[1:07:53] and so i'm requesting through this
resolution the authority to take that
[1:07:57] one-time
standard standard i still have to tell
[1:08:00] them what we're doing with it
but i don't have to do the extensive
[1:08:03] reporting that a water treatment
project
[1:08:08] would and i'm sure some of those
communities that are doing that got
[1:08:11] 40 and 50 million dollars in our
upgrading plants they're gonna go
[1:08:14] through much more
extensive reporting than our small
[1:08:17] little city
and so um the league of minnesota cities
[1:08:21] did recommend that
to take that election that the council
[1:08:26] direct staff to take the election and so
that's why i wrote that resolution
[1:08:30] use that resolution for that request
right recommendation
[1:08:34] to approve resolution 2022-12
resolution
[1:08:38] electing the standard allowance
available under the revenue loss
[1:08:43] provision
of american rescue plan act that's what
[1:08:48] it stands for i need a motion
i'll make a motion shannon makes motion
[1:08:52] how about a second
we'll say gonna mike seconds at any
[1:08:56] discussion
otherwise all those in favor say aye aye
[1:09:00] against motion carries
i just wanted to give you a little
[1:09:04] update you know when jess green was here
at the last one and you um approved the
[1:09:08] resolution with the um
[1:09:11] setting that interest rate the things
have gone
[1:09:15] kind of kablooey with interest rates
um
[1:09:20] now a 19-year structure like we did the
true interest cross would be at 4.247 so
[1:09:25] it's right below that 4.25 that you
approved
[1:09:29] um
their desk thinks that part of that
[1:09:34] number is because about a week ago in 80
million dollar taxable issuance from a
[1:09:38] texas community
the the bor the um
[1:09:43] pricing desk thinks that that kind of
skewed government obligation bonds for
[1:09:47] the most part they're hoping that will
come down
[1:09:50] obviously the fed will be next year next
week so that too may have it
[1:09:54] um
and so if we get the mpca sign off which
[1:09:59] we're still waiting for the npca permit
we anticipate they will give it before
[1:10:04] the bids are awarded on may 10th yeah
the
[1:10:07] 29th is the end of the 60 days and
we've been trying to have correspondence
[1:10:13] with them that
do they anticipate any issues and so far
[1:10:17] it's been
very little response they don't
[1:10:19] anticipate
hopefully they can turn it around and
[1:10:23] then stage this time frame
so
[1:10:26] um at this point there's
some options so if mpca gets us that
[1:10:31] permit and the pricing comes back and it
may be beyond the parameters you can
[1:10:35] still award the bonds just like you
would award the bid
[1:10:39] or we can wait to see
um and have a special meeting between
[1:10:45] the may 10th and may 24th or wait till
the 24th but there's options still but i
[1:10:49] wanted to let you know that that that
true interest is
[1:10:53] butting up to that level but that
doesn't limit you to still
[1:10:57] award the bonds even though you made the
um
[1:11:00] the 4.25
true interest rate
[1:11:03] we can still go over
as long as we price an award on the same
[1:11:07] day so
so it's just a little um skewed i did
[1:11:13] talk to
the brewery about that and
[1:11:17] uh at this point
everything's fine there is a possibility
[1:11:22] to add a year to it to get it down for
you know they'd like to
[1:11:26] pay us a certain number of dollars each
year and that's what we were hoping
[1:11:30] with a 19 year but with the adjustment
to rates it could bump up a little
[1:11:35] higher so then we're going to see if pfa
would let us add a year to the bond so
[1:11:39] that it brings it down to the the number
they
[1:11:42] budget for if it doesn't happen it'll be
fine but
[1:11:45] um so i've let them know too but i just
wanted to bring you both all of you up
[1:11:50] to date on that
all right
[1:11:53] and with that all i want to say is thank
you shannon for all your
[1:11:57] support as one of my five bosses in the
last
[1:12:00] four and a half years so
thank you and good luck thank you
[1:12:05] does anybody have anything for bridgette
i'd ask you were going to contact the
[1:12:09] landowner or something known by speedway
to see if they were going to be taking
[1:12:12] care of those yep and we've been playing
phone tags so i don't have an answer
[1:12:15] okay thank you
[1:12:19] all right
go on to number 14 no
[1:12:24] no 13.
commission updates planning commission
[1:12:27] um
i guess we approved everything tonight
[1:12:30] that we were talk you talked about so
[1:12:35] did everyone give a little synopsis of
ceta
[1:12:39] and we're gonna wait for the comp plan
we've got the draft comp plan
[1:12:43] they promised us that on monday and we
got it on monday
[1:12:46] and i've been going through the comp
plan and
[1:12:49] noticing a few things that need to
probably be drawn attention to but
[1:12:54] it's it's a slog
58 pages on the first
[1:13:02] and they apologize for
being late they were supposed to be done
[1:13:07] in march you did promise it for monday
and we got it on monday yeah but no the
[1:13:10] the whole the whole comp plan was
supposed to be done yeah
[1:13:15] yeah
and
[1:13:16] yeah they apologize and but they have
something they said they were going to
[1:13:20] make it right
issues
[1:13:22] so
they are going to make that right so
[1:13:26] um
eda
[1:13:28] brian
ada was uh the keys saying the jesus uh
[1:13:33] we'll tell you that was covered
i mean that took up the whole
[1:13:37] meeting or at last so that was that
park board
[1:13:43] meets on may 9th okay and record trail
uh record trail is uh we're
[1:13:51] getting ready i think they're out for
bid on the project so the county does uh
[1:13:56] as the fiscal agent puts out the bid and
i believe they're planning to award
[1:14:01] they're due back may 12th
and then the
[1:14:05] uh
[1:14:08] county commissioners will award but the
record trail board we'll need to do some
[1:14:14] um approval as well and so that's
probably gonna be in
[1:14:19] mid-may or the first june meeting we
might have to have a special recording
[1:14:23] meeting depending how everything falls
but then construction hopefully will
[1:14:26] start june good
day in june
[1:14:31] yep
good i hope so
[1:14:35] that's it for that then
number 14
[1:14:39] list of bills and additions
recommendation to review and accept
[1:14:42] payment of the accounts payable
according to the list and supplemental
[1:14:46] list presented by city staff i need a
motion on that
[1:14:50] i'll make a motion to pay the bills
shannon makes a motion how about a
[1:14:54] second second
any discussion on the bills otherwise
[1:14:59] and all those in favor say aye aye
against motion carries
[1:15:05] number 15 general questions and comments
from city council
[1:15:09] i have none i have none
shannon
[1:15:12] um i just want to thank
and everybody um that i've worked with
[1:15:18] on the council and
administrative and everybody
[1:15:22] that is a part of the city staff
i appreciate all of you and the hard
[1:15:27] work you do
um i
[1:15:30] am very honored to have been
on the city council
[1:15:36] for
so long
[1:15:40] long enough or whatever we want to call
it
[1:15:44] um
but i just want everyone to remember um
[1:15:48] to be a nice human
and um to think of a
[1:15:54] just think of it as a small town
and a big family so
[1:15:59] just go from there and
everything should be good
[1:16:05] thank you yeah thanks
yeah now i want to thank you too
[1:16:09] and i have nothing other than that
okay number 16 motion to adjourn i'll
[1:16:14] make that brand makes makes emotions
i'll second it my last time
[1:16:19] shannon seconds it
all those in favor say aye all right
[1:16:23] again motion carries thank you guys very
much
[1:17:50] you