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Good evening one everyone. It's August

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12th. Um I'm calling the uh on the

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August 12th. Sorry, Mario throw me off.

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I can't even get the first sentence out.

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August 12th, 2026. Um I'm calling the

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meeting to order at 6:34. Um we were

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intending to start at 6 and had to wait

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for quorum. So we are starting a bit

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late. Um, first item is roll call

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>> and trusty Bis is absent. Trusty

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Boosezie.

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>> Trusty Hall

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>> and Mayor Foley.

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>> Okay. And now I will make a motion to

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enter attorney client session to discuss

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collective bargaining negotiations and

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employment history of a particular

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individual. Second.

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>> All in favor? I. So, we should be back

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between 7 and 7:15.

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» Good evening everyone. It is 7:38.

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Um, we appreciate your patience as we

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were in um an a session with our

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attorney attorney client um guidance. At

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7:36, I made a motion to exit exe

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attorney client session and the deputy

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mayor seconded. We all voted in favor to

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exit. That is for the record.

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Um we did open the public meeting

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um before we went into executive session

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and did roll call. So now we'll make a

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motion to return to executive up to

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public session at 7:38. Second.

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>> All in favor?

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fun, right? Aren't you so glad you came?

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Okay. Um, so we have a few items of

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business before our our usual business

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before we have conversation with you.

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We'll come back to you, but very

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quickly, um, there are a couple of

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things I'd like to draw out from the

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department reports, but otherwise, I'd

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like to, um, make a motion to accept

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them as submitted. the department and

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uh committee reports.

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So sh I'll draw out those things and

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then make that motion. Um on the highway

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side paving on Kembell is happening next

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Tuesday. Um we were able to use

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across the county. So the town of Kent

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and the county trucks are going to pave

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that section on Tuesday. Hoping it

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doesn't rain. been a challenge with that

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spot because every time we get it

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prepped to pave normal hopefully take us

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time. Um I wanted to Matt, are you

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comfortable with me officer in charge?

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Are you may I read your um statement

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from your

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>> You can read it or I can read it however

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you want to do it.

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You know, sometimes things are hard and

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sometimes things are really beautiful.

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And we had a really beautiful thing

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happen in the village over the last

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couple of weeks. And um Officer Jackson

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noted it in his monthly report. And I'd

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like it the public to hear it. Every now

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and then, we're reminded that the

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greatest strength of our community isn't

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found in a budget, a program, or a

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government agency. It's found in the

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people who call this village home. I

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want to thank our residents, our

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faithful communities, our police offic,

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excuse me, our police officers, our

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county and state partners who came

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together this month to help a woman

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facing homelessness. When resources were

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limited, you stepped up with compassion.

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was. You simply asked, "How can I help?"

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You offered food, clothing,

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transportation, temporary shelter, and

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encouragement. What could have been a

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story of someone falling through the

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cracks became a story of hope. No one

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person solved this problem. No single

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organization had all the answers. It was

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a true community effort. Helping one

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person won't solve homelessness. But it

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changes a life and it shows our

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character. Simply put, it truly takes a

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village. To everyone who played a role,

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whether your contribution was large or

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small, thank you. Your generosity,

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kindness, and willingness to help a

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complete stranger, reminded us all of

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what makes this village such a special

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Little Jackson.

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company report um since we've been

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having more in that flood season um the fire co fire company does not

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provide routine water pumpout services.

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don't call the fire company. The the

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vehicle the apparatus is not made to

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pump dirty water out of buildings. Um,

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pumpout responses are limited to

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situations involving an immediate threat

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to life, a significant threat to

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property, property, or other extreme

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emergencies. For non-emergency water

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removal, please contact a licensed water

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mitigation company or restoration

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And those are the things I wanted to

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pull out. Anyone else had anything they

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wanted to make comment on from boards or

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committees?

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>> Reservoir level is that%

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but um it's good.

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Smart Task Force I believe has some

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items. Yeah.

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of a brief update on things of where

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we're at. Um but we'll come to like the

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preview um that you'll be hearing more

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soon. So um we saw a number of grants

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from our um NAERTA climate um community

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program. One of them is about $16,000

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that was going to be for the high street

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EV chargers. Um we now have um EV

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chargers that have been installed but

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just not um connected to power that um

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are down by the boat club. Uh those were

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um free to us. Uh so we still had

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$16,000 that we'll use and we are aiming

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to put um EV chargers for the police

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department and and the water department

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to use um at the highway garage. So we

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just need to get quotes. Um, but that's

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our that's our aim for the $16,000 at

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least. Um, so that will come to you all

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the contract modification. And then we

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have this $175,000 grant. Um, that is

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still a challenge to kind of get the

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logistics going, but ultimately it's for

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solar and the EV um the police

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department. Um, so expect to see all

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um over the next few months. Um,

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deadlines that were far away are now

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coming closer. really do.

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bit of my update, a little bit uh kind

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of smart task force, we're really moving

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ahead with the flood grant.

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consultants that are doing both

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analytical piece of looking at what are

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flood risks and what does it look like

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in the future and what are the solutions

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that we can have. And then we have

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another um great organization that will

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be doing a resident um uh webinar um and

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kind of a training and we are thinking

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of doing a survey uh through the climate

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part task force to um collect um

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information from residents about their

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experiences uh and and issues that

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the hard work and Michelle getting time.

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we're working on. Uh so yeah, so that's

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a lay of the land and I'd love to have

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formal pieces to all stand.

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one more update is that had a really

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great meeting last week with um members

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of the best from St. ies code

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enforcement officer judge Jackson and

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some members of the chamber um to

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discuss events at Lake Mary's. So we

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and raise money to support its buildings

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but we also have to make sure that

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there's required public safety and that

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we're meeting building codes etc. So it

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was a super productive session. Um the

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best is drafting um an application

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contract and they're going to run them

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past OS Jackson and the code enforcement

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office to make sure it touches on all of

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the things that need to refer to the

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village you know for this item for tents

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permits etc etc. Um and I also like

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Julian to have a look at that too comes

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in to see what areas of overlap and I

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feel confident that we can um I feel

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confident that we can address some of

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pedestrian and traffic issues that have

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been happening around those events.

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Okay. So, now we're moving into board

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chamber of commerce. So, if we could

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comments, but first just with

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introductions because I I've met you

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briefly. Yeah.

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>> But go ahead. Hi, I'm Laura Bozie

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trustee

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mayor Tweeps Woods

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>> one of our trusties

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earlier we know

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>> Gina Larson I'm the owner with my

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husband here of Brian Monkey home

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>> your windows are really happy it's nice

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to have them in the the center of Main

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>> I enjoy the colors a We love our new

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>> Um, so the chamber recently sent a

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letter asking questions and requesting

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an update on the paid parking program.

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of you who've um been communicating with

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us for your collegiality and cooperative

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tone. And I believe sorry I Kate Borhees

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Ben Vorhees is also online um

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representing the main street committee.

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collegial and being cooperative. It's so

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much more productive for everyone when

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we just talk things through and find

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answers. So, we're grateful. Um, the

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timing of your inquiries inquiries is

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really great because we've got great

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momentum following up on previous

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inquiries and suggestions. Um, and I

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just want to recognize that we can't

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address all of your concerns at once,

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but we are committed to working with you

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through in a in a reasonable manner. Um,

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I am committing to meet with you once a

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month. Um, I think we proposed September

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10th as the

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and then we'll bring into those monthly

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meetings trustees. Andrew has particular

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strengths and data that I don't have.

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Laura has particular strengths.

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Everybody. So if there are times that it

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makes sense to have another trustee with

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us um or staff and one of the most um

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well and then we bring we'll carry the

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recommendations that come out of those

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sessions to the full board for

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discussion. Um so the goals for tonight

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um this isn't a public hearing. This is

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a conversation with the main street

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committee. Um the board will decide if

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we take comments. Um and I'd like us to

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focus on the content of the letter. Um

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there were seven topic areas. Um, some

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of them are already working on and I'm

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going to update you on those areas. Some

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are going to need more consideration and

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discussion before implementations.

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Um, and just it's important to recognize

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that this program sort of goes handin

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glove with the residential parking

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program on our side street. So just

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being cognitive that when we tweak one

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area, it has impacts on that program

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too. So we we need to be thinking of how

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they all fit together.

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Um, and then I want to ask for some some

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explanation of some of your concerns and

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letter. There are things that we don't

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understand will be helpful to have

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feedback on so we know how to how to

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address the questions going forward. Um,

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so I hope that we'll we'll set action

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items for moving forward. Um, I also

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want to set the expectation that our

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primary constituency is our residents.

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Um, Main Street is one element of the

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village and one element that has needs.

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There are lots of elements that had have

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needs. It is a very important element.

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Um it's critical to our thriving economy

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and our community. Um we're also village

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fiduciaries. The paid parking brings in

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about 5% of our general fund income,

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which seems small, but it has impacts

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broadly. Um that's our focus and that's

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what's expected of us from residents and

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taxpayers. And ultimately any code

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changes, anything we discuss that

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requires code changes and some things

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will require tweaking the vehicle and

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traffic um chapter that will all have to

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go to public hearing. Um so there'll be

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a chance for everyone to be engaged in

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that in those at that time. So again um

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we're not going to take any final

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decisions tonight or solve all the

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issues, but we're going to talk. Um so

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first um what's in progress? Um over the

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summer we had um an intern who did a a

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photographic um

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uh inventory catalog of all of the signs

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in the lower village, all the signs on

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Main Street. Um one of the things that

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we feel pretty strongly about is Main

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Street is cluttered and it's just visual

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cacophony and it's hard to see the

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things you need to.

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She made recommendations for removal

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needs. we need to come back as a board

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and and approve the removal of some of

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those signs. Some of the signs don't

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lead to anything anymore. So, getting a

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cleaner slate to work from. So, that is

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in process and we'll be talking about

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that probably in September. This is our

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only meeting this month. Um,

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we've been working on identifying and

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establishing

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specific residential parking area in the

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lower village. that residential parking

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area has existed since 2015, but there

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was never it was never identified which

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places are for residents only. So, we've

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been having conversations with residents

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and think we have narrowed down what

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those streets should be. The board needs

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to have that conversation. That's a code

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change. Um

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the way finding signs are in and do you

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want to we have an example to show you?

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Someone wants to

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>> maybe

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they're all wrapped up together,

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>> but

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keeper so as we go through the meeting,

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you can look at them.

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>> Alex said don't

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just maybe just show it. I'm I'm

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speaking on behalf of my designer did

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not make these. Um but um he has a full

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slack explained all

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» at home.

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>> They're primarily designed for

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>> um walkers and then there are some that

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are car direction.

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>> I think the best thing is

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that's going to be a long way off in the

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background.

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>> It's all right. I think you can get

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these. There are there are two that are

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already that you can see

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>> and the whole the whole the whole plan

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is is online so you can go back and get

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it but they're here. Um we have we've

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had hit a bit of a bump getting bids for

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we want we want these to be really high

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quality and for that that visual

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identity to carry through the village.

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Um, so we're we're stacking um sign

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posts that are high quality and heavy

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and it's taking us a little time to do

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it, but there there it is in process and

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they're coming and it will continue. We

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got permission from Metro North um start

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in the train station and proceed

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throughout the village and be at the

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village

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>> and yes

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» exactly

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>> um

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>> and then the last update to give you is

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um on Park Mobile. So when the signs

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that we have on Main Street are the

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signs that we got for free when we first

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had a contract with Parkable. They're

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not ideal. It's what we could afford at

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the time when when the parking

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best effort to get it off the ground. We

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knew it would need to be modified and

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tweaked and we're in a good place

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because Park Mobile Park mobile is

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rebranding. Um, I've had an initial

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conversation with Park Mobile about um

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making our signs

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uh reducing the number of them, making

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them larger, making them cleaner um and

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easier to read and easier to use. So, I

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was hoping that for today I'd have some

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of the mockups they've done, but I

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haven't yet. I expect them soon. So,

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we're working on lots of the things that

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um chamber and individual merchants and

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others have asked us to do. And it seems

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like it might seem from your perspective

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that we're not that we're not doing

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those things, but it's only because it's

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not visible on a on a daily basis for

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you all. Those things are moving

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forward.

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So, um

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that's where we are. Um, I I have some

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thoughts about

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what can be taken up in the short term

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and what what need to be longer term

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considerations, but given where we are

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right now, we'd love to hear from you.

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>> Yeah. Um, you know, we just want to say

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thank you and we appreciate the open

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dialogue here. We understand, you know,

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the program is only two plus years new

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or so and so there's absolutely going to

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be an evolution in everything. So, we

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just wanted to kind of uh restate the

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things that the chamber is asking for

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right now. Um, which is some of the

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things that you've already addressed,

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which is improving the parking signage.

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I think we know that there are kind of

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multiple signs going on. It gets

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confusing for visitors to see what days

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the parking is. And we hear that too as

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like store owners too, them coming into

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the shops like, "Did I have to pay? How

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do I pay? Oh, you don't have to pay

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today. You know,

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>> and we experienced that at Village Hall,

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too. We have the maps in the front door

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and we, you know, we'll often open the

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door and say, "You don't have to pay

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today." So,

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>> um, and then second is reducing the

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parking fine. Um, right now the $75, we

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took a survey and we have some paperwork

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if you'd like us to share that with you.

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I know we submitted it via email. Um,

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but it just seems very out of line for

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other municipalities in the area. So,

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they're typically around $30, $40. $75

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seems really excessive. Um, so we're

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asking for that to be reduced and maybe

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even consider having an incentive to

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reduce the ticket if it's paid within 24

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hours. We've seen um other towns like

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Greenwich, Connecticut do that. It

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reduces the paperwork for you having to

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follow up if they have a quick easy way

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to pay for that.

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Um, one of the third things is just

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enforcing the five-hour time spots. Um,

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we know that

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residents kind of taking up some of

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those spots. Um, or people just kind of

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like squatting there. Um, we're asking

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that we more actively ticket those

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areas. Um, and perhaps we can ask

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villagers to utilize like driveways and

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residential spots to leave those free

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for people visiting the town. Um, there

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are some 15minute spots on Main Street,

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but we're asking if more could be added

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um for quick pickups and just drop off.

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Um, that's for both merchant and

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villager um utilization.

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Um, right now we also have a 4hour time

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cap. We're asking for the to just remove

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the time limit, which just doesn't seem

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enough um for some of the visitors to

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like come in, wait for a table for a

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restaurant, to go shopping, to go enjoy

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the waterfront for a while, have like

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ice cream at mumoos and everything. So,

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um I think that the same per hour meter

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revenue is less hassle for people to

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have to like move their car to a

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different spot. Um I know you might have

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heard different things in the past.

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Yeah, that was one of the questions I

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think Andrew and I have talked about and

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perhaps you two have had to. So, this

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the process of of getting to paid

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parking is multi-year.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um Emily [laughter] has seen all of it.

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the pre-COVID initiative that that

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finally got actually it's been talked

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about for decades and it's finally been

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[laughter] put put in place. Um

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we have had a range of feedback from

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different kinds of merchants, some being

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food merchants, some being, you know,

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places where folks want to go in and try

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clothes on. We we have really mixed

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feedback about about that. um and the

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idea that a spot is um

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it's it's it's a it's an item to be

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consumed, right? It's a it's a

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for some stores it makes sense to have

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turnover. For other stores, it's

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frustrating to have that turnover. And

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we I feel like we have talked about this

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back and forth. We're certainly open to

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conversation, but it would be really

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helpful to get a better sense of

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where people are on that and what when

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it is helpful and when it isn't. We It

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is not a three-hour limit, it's a 4hour

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limit. Um, and that was reached for a

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number of reasons. One was turnover at

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tables, but also uh discouraging people

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from parking for the day and then not

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having anybody else able to park on me.

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I think we'd like to understand better

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that fair.

532
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>> Yeah.

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And I mean

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the the signitories on the letter

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represent a variety of different

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businesses on Main Street from sit down

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restaurants to kind of quick shops to

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longer, you know, clothing stores. And

539
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so I mean I could understand if people

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signed it because they they agreed with

541
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you overall but maybe they had like you

542
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know but but if but if you know if this

543
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,600
really does represent what everybody

544
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,400
felt like then

545
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,000
>> do you feel like it represents a good

546
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,200
it's a good swath of

547
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,159
>> if I may also say that evolution that

548
00:22:56,159 --> 00:22:59,200
we're all talking about um has changed

549
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320
for a lot of people um and that it's

550
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240
something that isn't working for maybe

551
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,159
people who thought it was working Yeah.

552
00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:08,480
>> Before. So, I think there is a a deep

553
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,039
consensus now that having the limit is

554
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,559
not beneficial.

555
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,559
>> I think Kate might want to chime in too.

556
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:16,400
Um I don't know if you want to unmute

557
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960
her, but yeah, I think that's exactly it

558
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600
is that beyond that people might have

559
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760
thought four hours was enough, but it

560
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,799
really isn't.

561
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,400
>> Well, that was part of again it was part

562
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,840
of the experimentation. This is our best

563
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000
guess. Let's see how it goes. And if the

564
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
feedback from Main Street is it's not

565
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,760
working,

566
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,400
>> one thing I know is that

567
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,120
>> Main Street is is always full on the

568
00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,720
weekends. I mean, obviously January,

569
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,080
it's something different, but yeah,

570
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,559
>> even now in the spring and summer, it

571
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,360
has been full all day, all day long. Um,

572
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,400
and so that's a good thing.

573
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,760
>> Kate, did you have anything you wanted

574
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,640
to add on that?

575
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,320
>> I think you guys are nailing it. It's a

576
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,799
work in progress. Uh, we're feeling like

577
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:58,720
three hours isn't enough. People are

578
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,400
scrambling to get back to their cars and

579
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,960
they would have

580
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,600
>> four hours.

581
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,400
>> Never been three.

582
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,679
It's four.

583
00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:06,559
>> Sorry. I Yeah, four. Um, it might say

584
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,880
three on the website. We should check.

585
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,240
>> Early iterations early iterations were

586
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,559
three with the opportunity to add a

587
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:16,159
four. And that that may be what you're

588
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:18,000
thinking of, but the signage is here

589
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,279
comes Kada too. The signage is all four

590
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:22,559
or should be all four.

591
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:24,240
>> Um, yeah. Yeah. So, it just seems like

592
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240
some folks are are getting stuck

593
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,679
scrambling to get to their car and

594
00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:29,279
they're not done shopping and enjoying

595
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,840
the village. And the consensus is that

596
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,679
if if they're here and they're enjoying

597
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:35,120
the village and they're shopping and

598
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,799
participating, then maybe we should just

599
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:44,080
let them stay. Um so looking further into that would be awesome.

600
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,720
>> I mean, from our perspective, it's the

601
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,320
>> someone's pay park. It's revenue

602
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960
regardless of of who it is parking in

603
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,240
the spot.

604
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,760
So yeah, that's

605
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,039
>> carry on. Sorry to interrupt.

606
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,120
>> No. Um, our last point was something

607
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,880
you've already brought up is just that

608
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,880
open communication and being able to

609
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,880
meet with you monthly. You mentioned we

610
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,559
already have a date on the calendar and

611
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,720
everything.

612
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,559
We can really kind of iron out these

613
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,320
issues and come to, you know, a better

614
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,000
plan right now.

615
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,559
>> And Kate, did we are we solid on

616
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:18,240
September 10?

617
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400
>> Um, I'm checking with Kada, but that

618
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,240
works for me. Um and I think having

619
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,000
these monthly meetings will yeah will be

620
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,919
super productive um a really good

621
00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:27,840
opportunity for us to share what we know

622
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,520
and um try to improve things together.

623
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,520
>> Well maybe then um shifting and I I do

624
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,720
have want to give an opportunity for all

625
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,640
of you to ask questions too but laying

626
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520
out parameters. Um it it seems like from

627
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,640
your letter there are a couple of things

628
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,400
that you can start we can start talking

629
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,320
about right away in September. Um and one is getting a sense of of

630
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,320
reporting and and data and what's

631
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,120
helpful. Um

632
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,720
we see us as the front, but we're not

633
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,919
the people who really make the village

634
00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:00,880
work. Yeah. And I think sitting down

635
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,039
with the court clerk and the accountant

636
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:06,159
and the clerk to to figure out what it

637
00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:07,840
is exactly you're looking for and how

638
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,760
closely we can get to providing it.

639
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600
There's been a lot of evolution from the

640
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840
court since this program began. we

641
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000
having two new justices and a new court

642
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,200
clerk and she has been dragging the

643
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760
institution um into current time and

644
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240
sort of updating technology etc. So we

645
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,559
may have capabilities for reporting now

646
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,400
that we didn't have before. I don't know

647
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,440
that's something we need to talk to

648
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,679
Kelly about. Um so I would say that's one of the ones we can start

649
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,760
addressing right away. Officer in charge

650
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320
Jackson um will be the the the most

651
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,840
valuable person to you in terms of

652
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,840
enforcement. Um, so he is here on

653
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Fridays, so maybe we can schedule a a

654
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,039
Friday session or And then there's the

655
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,840
longer term considerations that have code implications. You've asked

656
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,919
about staff parking

657
00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,559
um the underlying state enabling

658
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,159
legislation

659
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:02,720
allows for the distribution of permit to

660
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,400
people who live on the designated

661
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,360
street. Um and we have not yet found a

662
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,120
way that that is work can can be worked

663
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,360
around. Um we have identified several

664
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,520
areas where parking is usually an option

665
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,760
for um workers. The

666
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,640
sorry uh

667
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,880
parking yeah winter parking yeah

668
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,679
>> the boulevard um metro north and then of

669
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,279
course everything above the lights is

670
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,720
open parking. So, we don't have we don't

671
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600
have a lack of parking in Cold Spring.

672
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,200
What we have a lack of is parking on

673
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,360
Main Street. It's finite and we can't

674
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,600
expand the number of spaces. If I could

675
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,880
chime in to to that

676
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,279
I because I if I could chime in. I think

677
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,400
our the original draft of our letter um

678
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,000
asked for staff parking and then we

679
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,840
worked really hard and talked to a lot

680
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,880
of merchants to truly understand why

681
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760
like what it's being used for. And it

682
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480
seems like what a lot of merchants

683
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,960
really are struggling with is getting

684
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,279
packages in and out of their shops. I

685
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:12,640
wonder if that was the case.

686
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,080
>> Yeah, it's I think that's the hardest

687
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,600
thing. Like if you have a flower

688
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,080
delivery or wine delivery or at times,

689
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,600
you know, one of your best customers is

690
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,200
coming in from Garrison, but they work

691
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,880
in the city during the week and it's a

692
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,120
Friday and shoot, they just can't get

693
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,559
that present that they need to get from

694
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,960
the general shop. And so a solution that

695
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320
we've found, well, TBD, but that we'd

696
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,399
really like to look into is adding a

697
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:37,679
second 15inut parking spot to every

698
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:39,919
block. What's happening is a lot of

699
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:41,600
those 15-minute spots are getting taken

700
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
over by larger delivery trucks or just

701
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,720
are being utilized. And so there's been

702
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
so many times, me included, I was, you

703
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,360
know, running to get pizza for soccer to

704
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,039
bring back to Philipstown Park and

705
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:54,960
realized I couldn't find any 15-inute

706
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,559
spot and I need

707
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,360
>> I needed to get back and I I luckily I

708
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,799
live in the village. So I realized,

709
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,880
okay, I can actually just go and park in

710
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,039
my driveway on Fair Street. I am so

711
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:06,799
blessed. and then I can sprint and get

712
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,640
my pizza and then get out of here. But

713
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,559
that's that's an anomaly, right? We

714
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:11,919
can't assume that everyone has that

715
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:14,240
luxury. And so we're really hopeful that

716
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,120
these added 15 minute spots would help.

717
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,279
I think right now our shop Cold Spring

718
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,000
Ceramics is um towards St. Mary's right

719
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880
up towards 90. And there seem to be

720
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,399
remaining spots most often available

721
00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:31,039
paid metered spots there. And so

722
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,200
hopefully removing some of the spots

723
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,279
further south would still allow for

724
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,039
people to park a little bit fur further

725
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,600
north and still pay um and it wouldn't

726
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,200
be a detriment. I understand we'd have

727
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,640
to restripe and we'd have to do new

728
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,559
signage etc. Hopefully the signage can

729
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:45,919
go hand in hand with the signage work

730
00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:48,720
you're doing and restriping maybe can

731
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,640
fold into the next round of paving that

732
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480
would need to happen anyway. And so in

733
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120
an ideal world it all comes together.

734
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320
So, a couple of things. Um, it's also a

735
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,640
code change. Um, and

736
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960
it's a reduction in the number of

737
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,840
spaces. There's the there's the

738
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,360
scenario, I agree with you, it's often

739
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,600
that Upper Main Street is open, but

740
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,200
there are the scenarios when we're at

741
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,799
capacity, right? We're not at October

742
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,640
right now. Um, in terms of deliveries,

743
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,360
the officer in charge has had and his

744
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,559
officers have had a number of

745
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:29,840
conversations with um, merchants who say

746
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,120
dropped off. They know they've got a

747
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,320
delivery coming. They need to get stuff

748
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,799
out of their own cars into shop. Let us

749
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,440
know. Call Villa Hall. Call the police

750
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,679
department and let us know and we'll

751
00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:41,440
help you. We'll put out cones for you or

752
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,960
help traffic get around you as you're

753
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,640
unloading. um that that is not ever a

754
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,399
problem unless they're on obviously on a

755
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,320
call. The officers are very willing to

756
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,760
help with that. So that should be a

757
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,840
problem that comes that's off the table

758
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,200
and I don't know if it's that people

759
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,360
don't realize that they can call or if

760
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,919
they're nervous to call but that's

761
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:01,520
something that we're open to doing to

762
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,960
keep the traffic flowing. Is that

763
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,520
correct?

764
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,200
>> Yeah, we've done it before.

765
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
>> I love that idea. But 10 times a day, I

766
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,679
mean that would be such a distraction,

767
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:11,440
right? if 10 different shops have to

768
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,919
quickly run in, you know, a case of wine

769
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,720
or grab some flowers or quickly drop off

770
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,039
some ceramics or I don't I don't know

771
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:19,360
that you

772
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,600
>> want to solve all the problems and no

773
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,360
answer is going to solve

774
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,799
>> all the problems, but that's an option

775
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:25,919
available to you. Did you have something

776
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:26,720
you wanted to add there?

777
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,320
>> I was just going to say half of what

778
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,080
you're saying, Kate, is sort of dropping

779
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,120
off

780
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240
>> and it says our internet is

781
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
>> Yeah, it's it's quick. It's it's

782
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,679
continuous and quick under 15 minute

783
00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:41,200
deliveries,

784
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,240
um, pickups, customers coming in to

785
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,320
purchase something that they've they've,

786
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,840
you know, they know Main Street so well.

787
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:54,960
They live in the town of Philipstown to to collect, right? They're not the tourist who's sort of window

788
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,159
shopping and shopping, although they

789
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:57,679
like to do that, too. So, it's just

790
00:31:57,679 --> 00:31:59,679
>> they can pay for parking coming in from

791
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:00,799
Garrison,

792
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,880
>> right? But when it's a quickif 15

793
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,640
minutes, I think, and there's not

794
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,799
parking close to their the shop, it's it

795
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,559
gets a little bit more complicated. And

796
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,320
so, it's providing for people who

797
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,080
currently are in Phillipstown and feel

798
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,799
like outsiders on their own main street

799
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,200
um to to enable those transactions to

800
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,120
happen, which definitely help merchants,

801
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,120
and then to also just help merchants

802
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,880
have access

803
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200
to their, you know, the their storefront

804
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,720
when they need some deliveries. Bigger

805
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,480
deliveries. I love Gina even mentioned

806
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,679
when she was bringing in all her

807
00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:31,360
furniture, you all put cones out for her

808
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,799
and she was able to easily access um her

809
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,640
store to get set up and that's awesome

810
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,399
and like we love love love that you can

811
00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:39,919
do that. I just don't want to burden the

812
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:43,440
police department with 10 calls a day.

813
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,720
May I um Jackson is it do we know which

814
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,480
tickets

815
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,159
happen for someone overstaying a

816
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:54,640
15minute I guess I'm wondering how much

817
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,840
the 15minute parking spaces get um

818
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880
abused and it does feel like I mean I

819
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,519
know that we have number of roving you

820
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:04,960
know parking enforcement but like they

821
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120
have to be in a lot of places they're

822
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,039
not they're I'm sure that they're not

823
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,120
tracking all of the 15 minute all of the

824
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880
time because then

825
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,519
So

826
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:16,960
>> yeah, I guess I'm I'm curious.

827
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,159
>> How do you check 15 minutes?

828
00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:20,240
>> Yeah, like like how well how how well

829
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,000
people are following the

830
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
>> for every 15 minutes. So if you see a

831
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,159
car parked out there now, you're not

832
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:29,679
you're going to notice it in 15 minutes

833
00:33:29,679 --> 00:33:30,799
whether it's there or not.

834
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,000
>> Yeah. But you have to be back there.

835
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,120
>> You don't know if it's already been

836
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,159
there for 15 minutes.

837
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:35,120
>> Well, I mean they could like

838
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
>> or if it's been there for a half hour.

839
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,240
>> No, you can't actually

840
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,269
that is state law.

841
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:43,840
another state.

842
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,399
>> If you observe the car there right now,

843
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:47,840
you have 15 minutes from when you

844
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,440
observe that car to go back.

845
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,120
>> No, I I understand. I guess

846
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880
>> have already been there for 15 minutes

847
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,279
already.

848
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,360
>> No, I guess that's what I'm saying is

849
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,159
that it requires continual

850
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:02,240
>> tracking and so I was curious how much

851
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720
>> how much we're taking there or how much

852
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,159
we have to sense or maybe you all have

853
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:07,360
the sense because you know your eyes are

854
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,879
like looking out on main street all the

855
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:10,320
time. do notice that people are just

856
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,679
like, well, there's no

857
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,919
>> 15 minutes on our side of the street.

858
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:16,560
So, it's a different it's the it's the

859
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,919
opposite side of the street. So, it

860
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:20,399
makes it that problem compounds

861
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:22,720
>> with small deliveries because there's

862
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,359
nothing um I can't speak for everybody.

863
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:28,720
I know for me it's police parking, two

864
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,679
spots maybe, and then all yellow

865
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,760
striping. So, I have several tickets

866
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,639
>> unloading with things in my hands. I've

867
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,399
just said put the ticket on top of the

868
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:41,440
bot

869
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,440
>> and that has definitely happened. So I

870
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,679
mean it's a problem you know we'll

871
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,839
there's lots of different ways I think

872
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:51,040
that um we can get through this

873
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,599
evolution because restriping and all of

874
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,839
that work we know that that's sort of

875
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:58,640
down the line. Um, one thing that I

876
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,000
found, um, was that there are some of

877
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,800
the metered systems that instead of, um,

878
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,200
you know, if they don't have space for a

879
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,960
merchant parking lot, which some

880
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,720
municipalities do, um, they can load

881
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,560
from the backends, and I know that we

882
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480
can do it through our system because I I

883
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880
checked, they can load credits for

884
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,359
people. So, you could like put in a code

885
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:25,440
and still just be in a normal parking

886
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,119
spot. And you know, if each person is

887
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,040
each business or something like that was

888
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,839
allotted a certain amount for

889
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:35,680
themselves, then they could park in an

890
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,040
actual spot and then hopefully quickly

891
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,240
unload rather than, you know,

892
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,000
throw them in, right? And then the same

893
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
problem would happen like if you wanted

894
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,920
to put out poems and people were parked

895
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,280
there and they like fill there. I mean,

896
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,960
if all of these problems have more

897
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680
problems, right? So, I don't know. there

898
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040
might be some piecing together as this

899
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,400
evolves that we can you know think of in

900
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,000
certain ways especially during certain

901
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,920
times of year right

902
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800
>> um and we know our busy season is May to

903
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,400
October

904
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,640
so

905
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,599
>> definitely expanding

906
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:12,880
>> yeah and it's definitely and it is

907
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,520
expanding for sure like you know during the Christmas season um fe

908
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,760
February March I it like I mean that's I

909
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,560
see it fall off

910
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,920
>> chaos season is September, October,

911
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480
November, but the the visitation is

912
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,079
expanding through the year. Did you were

913
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:31,280
you you sounded like you were hopping

914
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,760
in?

915
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,680
>> Uh no, I'm freezing. Oh, sorry. That was

916
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,680
me just like my

917
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,119
>> scattering. Thank you. Um what I was uh

918
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,480
thinking about was the

919
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Have you identified spots 15 minute

920
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,839
spots or proposed 15 minute spots? I

921
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,320
don't think we've gotten to that level.

922
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,960
Uh Kate, I don't know if you have

923
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,480
anything.

924
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800
>> I I didn't. We're happy to. I think I

925
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880
provided you all with a diagram to help

926
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,119
the high street conversation. So, if

927
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,599
that format is useful, we can follow

928
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,320
that format. I I was just curious in

929
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,839
your since it's one of your

930
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:17,280
asks if the if you had identified spots

931
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,560
or if there were

932
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,560
any I guess what I'm trying to get at is

933
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,720
you know the one of the things about the

934
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,440
parking for everyone is that you know

935
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,040
when you want to park you want to park

936
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,480
right in front of where you're going

937
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,680
right and so that's often pretty

938
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,800
difficult on Main Street or even on the

939
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440
side streets where I live where I want

940
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,359
to park in front of my house and

941
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:45,359
sometimes I'm not able and I have a

942
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:48,240
permit, right? So

943
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,680
I there has to be some sort of we have

944
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160
to be realistic about that. Um at the

945
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,359
same time I do think that you know

946
00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:59,359
wanting to hop in and get your bottle of

947
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:02,240
wine or your pizza, whatever, like it

948
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,000
would be more convenient to be able to

949
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,920
just park and be able to do that. I

950
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,240
totally agree. I just wonder like we all

951
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,000
we know we're working with a finite

952
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,119
amount of spaces. So if there's

953
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,880
something that's been identified that we

954
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960
don't see that would be helpful.

955
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Otherwise we're all looking as far as I

956
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,599
know the same Main Street.

957
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,440
>> Absolutely. Yeah, we can get you a

958
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,760
diagram. I think we're asking for two. I

959
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,520
know we're asking for two per block and

960
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,119
we're assuming the second spot is

961
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,119
opposite the first. So on either side of

962
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,040
each block and the specifics of that

963
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,320
location, I think we can be

964
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960
differential. If shop owners can get

965
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,880
onto the side of their block on their

966
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880
block, it makes it much easier to load

967
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,520
and unload our own packages and probably

968
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,680
for our clients as well. But I can Yeah,

969
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
I'm happy to do a draft diagram for your

970
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,640
review

971
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560
>> because we also have to obviously

972
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,560
consider

973
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,280
revenue. Well, revenue, but also

974
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,190
pedestrian movement.

975
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,440
A lot of cutouts are weird because

976
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,880
streets are weird. They're not the

977
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,640
normal size. I mean, we just have a lot

978
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,760
of kind of

979
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,280
>> a lot of variables happening

980
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,839
simultaneously. It's not just like, you

981
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:14,400
know, nicely

982
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
>> carb. It's not a suburb.

983
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,320
>> And tell give you a history of how the

984
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
15minute spots landed where they did.

985
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,560
This may help you and for how we were

986
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,320
thinking about it. And and I want to

987
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,960
make clear that all of this we had

988
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,200
multiple public hearings. We had

989
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,240
multiple, you know, public meetings and public hearings. Um some of these

990
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,359
things you're not going to know until

991
00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:37,440
the program gets going, but there was

992
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,200
extensive conversation about this at the

993
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,640
time. The 15minute spots we purposely

994
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,320
put

995
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,359
near crosswalks to expand the

996
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:49,920
sightelines for cars to see walkers and

997
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,160
walkers to see cars. Um, we also

998
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,599
in in putting it next to that there's so

999
00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,839
there's the crosswalk, then there's a

1000
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:03,200
state mandated 20 ft on either side of

1001
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000
the sidewalk, then a 15-minute spot that

1002
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
also conveniently is about the size of a

1003
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,119
truck because truck deliveries are it's you're thinking about getting the

1004
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,200
stuff out of the truck. We're thinking

1005
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,520
about what happens when when the truck

1006
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,880
is parked and traffic needs to be

1007
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,240
moving. So there, you know, there there

1008
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,400
are multiple sides to this. And it did

1009
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440
create long the 15-inute spots did

1010
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,079
create long locations where trucks can

1011
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,160
pull in and out more easily. Is it

1012
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480
perfect? No. But it's provided more

1013
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,160
options. Um, trucks are always going to

1014
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,160
be a problem because we live in an age

1015
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,520
where everything is delivered. The

1016
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Amazon is, you know, it's not just the Asendico trucks, it's the Amazon

1017
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,760
trucks, right? And that's all through

1018
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,800
the village. And we are a village that

1019
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,359
was not built in anticipation of the

1020
00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:56,240
kind of commerce and lifestyle that we

1021
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,599
live now. So, it's we it's challenge to

1022
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,200
make

1023
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,119
the reality on the ground that

1024
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,160
everyone's wants and need. So, I'll say

1025
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,119
I'm I'm open to the conversation.

1026
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,720
I don't know that I don't know that we

1027
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,400
can do it, but I'm I'm open to you

1028
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,839
proposing things certainly.

1029
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:17,200
>> Can I ask a question on a different

1030
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560
topic or do we want to keep

1031
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,240
>> I think we talked about that point.

1032
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:24,880
Okay,

1033
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,079
>> exactly. Um

1034
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,400
>> I'm curious on the improved signage

1035
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,200
since you hear a lot from visitors. Is

1036
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,920
it do you hear about both Main Street

1037
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,359
and side streets or particularly one or

1038
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:41,119
the other? We'll make a distinction.

1039
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:42,960
>> I would say it's it's everything. I

1040
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,599
mean, people don't know how to get where

1041
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,680
they're going.

1042
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Um,

1043
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640
>> the way Yeah. Yeah. And so I'll often

1044
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,040
like go out and walk out on the street

1045
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,800
and say bathrooms down there,

1046
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,960
mountains over there, boundaries over

1047
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,560
there. Like I'll say just follow this

1048
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,240
road around and take a

1049
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,920
>> like

1050
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,480
I I see but this seems weird. Or they'll

1051
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
start to walk down the residential road

1052
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,400
to go to Foundry and they're like, I

1053
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,680
came back because I thought that wasn't

1054
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,000
right.

1055
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,240
>> Yeah, it's right. Just keep going that

1056
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,520
way. Um yeah, parking.

1057
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,960
>> Sorry, I I should have made that.

1058
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,800
>> No, are you asking if people ask about

1059
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,359
parking?

1060
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:25,760
>> When people say that the parking signs

1061
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,560
are not clear about whether they should

1062
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,160
be paying for it on Main Street, are

1063
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,079
they also saying are you hearing the

1064
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,119
same thing about the residential

1065
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,839
restrictions on the weekends or is it

1066
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,760
more you're hearing about Main Street

1067
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,119
issues?

1068
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,040
>> I would say both. I don't know what it

1069
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,800
is on your block. It could be different.

1070
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Yeah,

1071
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,040
>> I think my personal experience has been

1072
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,359
mostly the main street that they're

1073
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:52,960
asking about.

1074
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,560
>> That's one of the things we

1075
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,079
>> I'm on a corner.

1076
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,520
>> Yeah, I'm on a corner. It's a little

1077
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,160
different. Yeah.

1078
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,359
>> Yeah. True.

1079
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:00,319
>> That's one of the things that we think

1080
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:02,079
about is that, you know, we have

1081
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,800
parking, residential parking on the

1082
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,200
ends. Some folks have given feedback

1083
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,960
that it would be helpful to have more

1084
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,480
residential parking signs in the middle.

1085
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Some people hate that idea. We're not

1086
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:16,400
going to make everybody happy. Um, but

1087
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,720
making it clear that the whole length of

1088
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,680
Church Street is residential parking.

1089
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,119
>> Yeah, I can I I have very strong

1090
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,440
feelings on this particular topic

1091
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,920
because it seems it is curious. Um,

1092
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,190
people

1093
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,839
I mean I I watch people look at a sign

1094
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:39,200
and park anyway.

1095
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,960
>> Yeah. Um and for that I say enjoy your

1096
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,319
ticket. Um

1097
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,560
I have also seen people kind of wonder

1098
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,119
well

1099
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,680
>> the arrows sort of facing like sort of

1100
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,240
awkwardly so does this count as like not

1101
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:57,760
kind of clear

1102
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,000
>> if that includes that. So I mean I think

1103
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,960
there is room definitely room for us to work on that. it it's just you know

1104
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880
figuring out

1105
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,599
how to make it so that it's more clear

1106
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:13,200
but at the end of the day I do think

1107
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
that there are a fair amount of people

1108
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
who just decide

1109
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,119
well you know I'll take my chances which

1110
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,359
>> the other thing to realize is we can put

1111
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,160
up all sorts of signs we can't make

1112
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,440
people read them

1113
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,480
>> so the the block the block from Kemble

1114
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
down to fair. I can't remember how many

1115
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,880
signs we counted. 26

1116
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,160
parking signs.

1117
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560
Park mobile and online apps are used

1118
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,000
everywhere now. Like think about where

1119
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,319
do you go that you don't pay for parking

1120
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:52,480
in dense areas.

1121
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200
We can't we can put signs there. We

1122
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,040
can't make people read them, right? So

1123
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,400
people are going to get people are going

1124
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,200
to get tickets because they either don't

1125
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
see or they choose not.

1126
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,880
And that's just how it is. And it's

1127
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,560
going to upset people to get a ticket. I

1128
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,960
think we can have conversations about

1129
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,400
there there are several of us who are

1130
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,359
open to the conversation about reducing

1131
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:16,640
um the ticket price for sure. Um it for

1132
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,560
one I mean this the staff the court

1133
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,440
clerk would be delighted to not have to

1134
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,000
argue with people about have you know

1135
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,760
deal with people who are upset about a

1136
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,240
$75 ticket. Marjorie spends a good deal

1137
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,560
of her time arguing. Not arguing but

1138
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
listening to people. We listen. We just

1139
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,319
listen

1140
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:36,160
>> um to people who care very loudly about

1141
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,000
their ticket at the door.

1142
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,319
>> Um so

1143
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:42,480
we have to just the reality. We have to

1144
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,839
run some numbers and you know see can we do it? What's the right amount

1145
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:50,720
and when do we do it? And for us from a

1146
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,640
budgeting perspective it would be far

1147
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,040
better to do on the budget cycle. And I

1148
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,119
thank you for recognizing that in your

1149
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,880
letter. We go into budget season in

1150
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680
February. But know that there is we are

1151
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,480
open to those conversations.

1152
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,359
>> Um, and I would like to work with you on

1153
00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:09,280
>> we Kate and I had a discussion today on

1154
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,079
email about what comparables are. And I

1155
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,680
think maybe this is a good point for you

1156
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,119
to hop in and about what we were

1157
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,200
thinking as we saw the number saw the

1158
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,520
locations and numbers

1159
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,319
>> um in terms of the materials

1160
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:25,760
>> and comparability. Yeah.

1161
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920
>> Yeah. Um, first off, I mean, I

1162
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,000
appreciate a hearty dialogue, too, and

1163
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,760
I'm open to the to the conversation. Um,

1164
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,480
I think a lot of things on this, I think

1165
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,400
they fall into I'm getting to your

1166
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,040
question, right? Right. Fall into sort

1167
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,880
of I don't want to be repeating myself,

1168
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,280
but different categories of things we

1169
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,280
can move with and create some momentum

1170
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,200
around immediately, other things that

1171
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,960
are more budget cycle dependent, and

1172
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319
other things that I feel need um deeper

1173
00:46:54,319 --> 00:47:01,109
exploration. I'm kind of wary um about

1174
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,680
taking too many making too many

1175
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400
decisions without a further exploration.

1176
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,480
And so

1177
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,680
that that have been suggested like the

1178
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,480
parking fines for instance. Yes, I think

1179
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,040
generally there's there's a there's a

1180
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,880
an emerging consensus that that's

1181
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,640
something that can be addressed, but I

1182
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,640
don't think you can look at that in

1183
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,200
isolation. You can't break out the

1184
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,599
parking fines from all of the other

1185
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:29,119
jurisdictions that you could look at

1186
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,040
where there are so many other different

1187
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,640
variables that come into play in terms

1188
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,119
of some have free parking and that and

1189
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,079
the fines whilst you may say start are

1190
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:41,599
lower than the $75 say up in Beacon.

1191
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,440
They have free parking but the fines are

1192
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
for if you overstay the 4hour limit.

1193
00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:48,319
not a five hour limit. So if

1194
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,800
you overstay that 4hour limit first

1195
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,119
offense is $50. The second is 100. The

1196
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:54,560
third is 200.

1197
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,160
>> Meaning you that license plate.

1198
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,720
>> Yeah. So

1199
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,240
>> if you look at it from that point of

1200
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,520
view, the fines in beacon are actually

1201
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,400
higher than here because if you

1202
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,720
overstayed three times here, it' be $75.

1203
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:13,280
3 time 75 is less than $450, $350,

1204
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,040
right? So I think that and other

1205
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
questions need a lot more exploration

1206
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,200
amongst all of us before we sort of come

1207
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,880
to some

1208
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,839
conclusions or conclusory actions around

1209
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:32,400
what may need to shift or change. Um

1210
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,200
>> and I also think for me sort of

1211
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,760
contextualizing it within

1212
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,480
the operation of the village um the

1213
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,119
village's annual budget is $4 million.

1214
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:45,599
When I be before I was a board member, I

1215
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,440
love going to Rybeck because parking is

1216
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,200
free. I was, you know, fan of free

1217
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,119
parking. I like that concept. But

1218
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,880
looking at the reality of the village's

1219
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200
finances, an annual budget of $4

1220
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,720
million, lots of needs that it has to

1221
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,319
meet and the parking fees from the the

1222
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:04,079
non- taxpaying portion of the budget,

1223
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,480
say 2 million, it's it's 10% of that

1224
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,319
budget. So that's that's meaningful

1225
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:10,559
numbers in terms of the way the village

1226
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,280
operates. So for me that's all

1227
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,240
>> that you're talking about the you're

1228
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,359
talking about the

1229
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,559
>> the paid parking revenue. Yeah. So

1230
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,040
that's um

1231
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,160
>> that's important to us. And so that

1232
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,800
needs to be balanced against the needs

1233
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,960
that you clearly have and what to

1234
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,400
represent. And I also feel that um

1235
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,839
well I hit one little note here. um you

1236
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:39,440
know there needs there's got to be a

1237
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,839
deeper dive into some of the dynamics

1238
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:45,599
that are being um talked about in terms

1239
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,319
of it's not

1240
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,880
understand what that looks like and I I

1241
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,640
know you hear it from people and that's

1242
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,800
aggravating and and challenging to deal

1243
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,400
with but how many people is that and how

1244
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,480
does it actually how's that reflective

1245
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,800
actually in

1246
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,880
revenues from month to month or how

1247
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,240
actually does

1248
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,160
impact your business. I think in the

1249
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160
June 2024

1250
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,200
letter that you included you you you'd

1251
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,319
cited something about, you know,

1252
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,440
a a Zoom call that Jesse was on, right?

1253
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,440
And you said um

1254
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,040
>> easy and important metrics to gather

1255
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,640
would include monitoring monthly sales

1256
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,319
revenue growth or decline, average

1257
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:27,920
transaction total, and total number of

1258
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,400
transactions per month. So I I would in

1259
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,400
these conversations that we may be able

1260
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,480
to have amongst ourselves, I'd like that

1261
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,079
to be part of the conversation too. So

1262
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,119
that when when when

1263
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,559
the main street committee says that it's

1264
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,319
not beneficial to us, that it's actually

1265
00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,640
borne out in terms of oh there was a dip

1266
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,599
here or the rise here. But again that may not necessarily always be

1267
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,160
attributable solely to the structure of

1268
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,480
parking, right? So we so we got to look

1269
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,800
at it.

1270
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,559
>> Yeah. Yeah. Having you recognize that is

1271
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,520
a giant step forward because in previous

1272
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,000
iterations and when when I mean when

1273
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,240
change happens nobody likes it it's

1274
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,200
difficult but there was a lot of initial

1275
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,240
sort of shock factor that parking is you

1276
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,559
know my sales are down 34% and it's your

1277
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,960
parking is it you know it's like we

1278
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,960
we're dealing with tariffs we're dealing

1279
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,640
with

1280
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,480
a different war then but there's so and

1281
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,599
consumer confidence is down. Yes. You

1282
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,680
can't pin

1283
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,839
also people's business plan. How how

1284
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,400
often are you open and are you open at

1285
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,839
times that people can get to you? Um for

1286
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:43,200
a lot of a lot of businesses don't open

1287
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,960
not a lot of several businesses don't

1288
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,520
open almost at all. Like they're only

1289
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,599
open on Saturday. So our parking is

1290
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:53,599
maybe not as much an issue as your

1291
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:56,160
business plan. So I think Andrew raises

1292
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,920
that and it's it's not an accusation.

1293
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,240
It's just saying you can't look at any

1294
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,240
of these things in isolation. It's a

1295
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:03,680
system that works together.

1296
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,040
>> I mean I think also as part of that

1297
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,880
conversation too is you could have to

1298
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,000
look at things like the enforcement

1299
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,319
window we have paid parking on three

1300
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:13,040
days of the week 24 hours total. other

1301
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,359
towns, Ryan Beck, uh, Pipsy, I think

1302
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:20,480
they have and and Beacon too, you might

1303
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,520
site lower fines,

1304
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,800
have um, parking regulations in force,

1305
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,119
if not throughout the week, if not

1306
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,119
throughout the whole seven days a week,

1307
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,119
certainly 5 days a week. So, that's a

1308
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,680
very different picture in terms of the

1309
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,520
collections they're making from that

1310
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,839
particular structure versus the village,

1311
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:42,640
which I think is, you know,

1312
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Maybe it's it's it's it's

1313
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,559
um fines are an outlier, but the village

1314
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,200
is also an outlier in terms of its its

1315
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,520
size, the amount of available parking

1316
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
and its popularity, I think, too. So,

1317
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,319
>> yeah. And I think we probably could

1318
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:01,040
monitor, you know, some of the social

1319
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,200
chatter and, you know, I do think

1320
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,400
anecdotal like evidence is like, you

1321
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,000
know, valid here when we hear like I got

1322
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,559
a $75 ticket. I'm never coming back to

1323
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:14,960
Cold Spring, you know, or I'm never

1324
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,800
coming back on the weekend and

1325
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040
everything. And I think that's what a

1326
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,160
lot of merchants here have heard from.

1327
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,400
>> Do you ever hear why they got the $75

1328
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,440
ticket?

1329
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,240
>> I mean, maybe it's I'm sure it's like

1330
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,839
overstaying, you know, and but sometimes

1331
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,440
you lose track of time when you're

1332
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,280
having a good time, too. So $75 just

1333
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,680
seems very punitive.

1334
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,319
>> I do. Yeah, there's so so many layers of

1335
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:43,920
this and I think all of the talking

1336
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,800
points we could dig into at length. Um,

1337
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,720
you know, overstaying is certainly one

1338
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,119
and members have talked about a grace

1339
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:52,880
period which other towns sometimes have.

1340
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,400
So, if you get to your car 5 minutes

1341
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,119
late, you don't have that ticket. Um,

1342
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,200
misreading signs is another that's being

1343
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,760
addressed. Um, and we do have data. I

1344
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,680
mean, Kada is an example, poor George,

1345
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,599
of a shop that's open seven days a week

1346
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,760
and she has data and she's been down the

1347
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,240
last year. There shops like mine on

1348
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,079
upper Maine. We're only open four days a

1349
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:13,680
week if I'm doing my

1350
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,680
>> your your um your connection is sort of

1351
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,200
dropping every

1352
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,559
>> hour internet connection.

1353
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:24,160
>> We just got a notice on the screen that

1354
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,440
our internet connection internet

1355
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,720
connection is unstable.

1356
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,640
>> I'll speak a bit more slowly because I

1357
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,240
do think some of these points that are

1358
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,400
coming up. I would I would hate for

1359
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,200
there to be a misconception that the the

1360
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,280
you know if a shop were only to have a

1361
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,800
better business model then that would

1362
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,880
change the revenue streams. I do know

1363
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,119
that a lot of shops that aren't open

1364
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,520
Tuesdays and Wednesdays are not open

1365
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,359
because they cannot afford to pay people

1366
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,599
to sit in the shop that is not shopped

1367
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,760
and so we make those decisions based on

1368
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,920
what's possible. I also know that people

1369
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,480
coming in from Garrison have stopped

1370
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,800
coming in as much because of the parking

1371
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,839
setup that they have sort of been felt

1372
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:03,680
and this is coming you know from a few

1373
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,520
people but one who I'm sure you all know

1374
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,920
quite well who's elderly and is a stable

1375
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,839
of this community. Um they feel

1376
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:12,480
unwelcome. They don't come to lunch like

1377
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,760
they used to because they feel

1378
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,599
unwelcome. And so

1379
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:16,960
>> they know that they have other places

1380
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,480
they can park.

1381
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,119
>> I I think it's it's the spirit. I think

1382
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,680
it's this sorry I just I think it's the

1383
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,160
spirit that's off. So if we assume that

1384
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,920
someone isn't just being you know

1385
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,400
willing themselves not to read a sign or

1386
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,920
thinking that they can just park for

1387
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,839
however long and not get a ticket. And

1388
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:38,559
we can honestly think these people are

1389
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:40,720
good people who are happy to shop

1390
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,160
whether they're part of the community or

1391
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,400
visiting and they've messed up. and

1392
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,680
that's the person getting a $75 punitive

1393
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,400
ticket and it feels so bad. And then

1394
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,240
they look at the comparisons in other

1395
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,720
towns and they see that it's anomalous

1396
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,640
and then we understand that part of it

1397
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,440
not driven by metrics that align us with

1398
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,359
other towns but rather than by financial

1399
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:02,960
need for the village. It becomes really

1400
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,040
complicated to explain it to them. It's

1401
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,319
as if I were to have a babysitter come

1402
00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:10,880
to my house and the going rate around

1403
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,319
here is $16 to $20 an hour. It's harsh.

1404
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:15,839
And I were to say, you know what? I'm

1405
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:17,680
only going to pay you 10 because right

1406
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,920
now that's all I can afford. I'm so

1407
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,920
sorry. It just it doesn't it doesn't

1408
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,920
work. You know, it doesn't work. And so

1409
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,200
I think we need to find a way for the

1410
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,119
number to be something that people can

1411
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:31,359
anticipate is realistic and align to

1412
00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:32,640
other villages.

1413
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,280
>> Can I clarify a point you've made?

1414
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,240
>> Sure.

1415
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:38,480
>> What where I thought you started is not

1416
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,640
where you ended.

1417
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,640
I thought you were describing anxiety

1418
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,440
about paying for parking, but it sounds

1419
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,680
like what you mean is anxiety about the

1420
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,480
ticket. Well, I think for some it's

1421
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,520
both, but certainly the $75 ticket is

1422
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,119
punitive and and no matter, you know,

1423
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:00,319
how Yeah. who you are and what your

1424
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:02,640
intention is, it's it's um something

1425
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,200
that I do think regardless of the income

1426
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,200
that it provides for the village needs

1427
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,040
to be separated out and that metric

1428
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,559
shouldn't be a variable in making that

1429
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:11,760
decision.

1430
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,079
>> Shouldn't be what? A variable in

1431
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,240
determining the rate of the parking fee

1432
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,829
should not be the village's bottom line.

1433
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:23,680
» Sorry, go ahead.

1434
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,680
>> Um

1435
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,520
I I'm glad that after a little while

1436
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,440
into the program, we changed the the

1437
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,880
parking rate. I think that that was the

1438
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,480
right thing to do and I think that that

1439
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,799
was the best that we could do

1440
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:38,799
recognizing that we had like financially

1441
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:40,160
we did have to do a paid parking

1442
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,440
program. I think that was like very

1443
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,720
explicit of a goal of the program, but

1444
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,839
it was the best that we could do to kind

1445
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:49,839
of meet the the visitors where they were

1446
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:52,160
at in terms of of paying. So, I think

1447
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,240
that that was right and and I I hope

1448
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,000
that we can do things to make people

1449
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,760
feel welcome, but I think we are, you

1450
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,119
know, there's still going to be like a

1451
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,599
paid still going to be paid parking on

1452
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,680
Main Street. I don't think anybody's

1453
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,359
suggesting that it's not

1454
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:11,200
>> the village is also a business.

1455
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,520
>> Yeah.

1456
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,559
>> Right.

1457
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,079
>> We are also businesses.

1458
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:15,680
>> We all have to think in those ways and

1459
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,280
we have considered all of those things

1460
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,920
that you've said. I don't and have never

1461
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,319
been under the illusion that

1462
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:25,520
>> this equals that. There are lots of

1463
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,319
components for anything to be successful

1464
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:31,040
and you just have to keep adapting as we

1465
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,319
are like as we're all trying to do. I do

1466
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:36,400
hope that you all will consider though

1467
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,079
that feeling because this is something

1468
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:41,200
that we hear over and over and over. It

1469
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,880
feels unwelcome. Yeah.

1470
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
>> And it does. $75 feels unwelcome.

1471
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,440
>> Certificate price feels like we don't

1472
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,240
want you here. And it sends that message

1473
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,799
and just consider it like it's not you.

1474
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:55,200
It's not not against anything like we're

1475
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,559
all trying to come up with a solution

1476
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,240
together to make what's best for

1477
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,680
everybody. We're considering all of

1478
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,200
these things. We don't think that you

1479
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,359
don't consider them. We know that you

1480
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,119
guys consider them. We know that you're

1481
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,760
working so hard to find so many

1482
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,400
solutions and you know there's not

1483
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,920
solutions, there's trade-offs, right?

1484
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,119
That's

1485
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:14,640
>> Yeah, you're right. There trade-offs.

1486
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:20,240
>> So, we have to keep considering those things together and $75. Um, one

1487
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,319
really comparative place is Camzen,

1488
00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:25,119
Maine, and I actually spoke um with

1489
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:28,400
people from from there in in their um

1490
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,119
village hall today. And they experience

1491
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:33,520
sort of what we experience

1492
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,319
that they have, you know, their normal

1493
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:38,559
5,000 residents, which is more than our

1494
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:41,200
village of 2,000, but it's very close.

1495
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,880
>> And they triple. They go to 16,000 or

1496
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,160
more. They're not even sure how many

1497
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,839
more during, you know, especially during

1498
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:50,880
the summer months. So they have their

1499
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,599
parking program. You know, you start in what would be like our little

1500
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:58,319
village. That's the most expensive to

1501
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:00,720
park and then it slowly gets a little

1502
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,960
bit lower. But their parking is the

1503
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,359
same. They have that, hey, your first

1504
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:09,040
ticket is $25. Pay it within this amount

1505
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,920
of time. If you don't, it's 50. It's 75.

1506
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,680
And then it becomes, hey, maybe you

1507
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,440
didn't know, you didn't read that sign,

1508
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,760
right? You weren't paying attention. you

1509
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,480
any of those things. Um, but you have

1510
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,240
the chance to make it right and here it

1511
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,359
is like do it, get it done, and let's,

1512
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:30,240
you know, let's let's move on. Um, and I

1513
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,400
think it's a really wonderful model. I

1514
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,799
do, and I think it's worth exploring and

1515
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:37,280
taking on those numbers and really

1516
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,559
seeing what we can do with that because

1517
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,880
the result is people saying that they're

1518
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,640
never coming back. And a lot of these

1519
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,440
people are local people and they just

1520
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,119
don't come in. I hear it all day long. I

1521
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:50,559
don't come in on the weekend at all. I'm

1522
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,559
not even, you know, they totally bypass

1523
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:56,000
us. And it's important for us to be

1524
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,520
strong.

1525
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,040
>> I am super open to the idea. Uh we I

1526
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,720
want to make clear that our code

1527
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,000
an increased amount. It's it's by right

1528
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,480
>> 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. So the ticket

1529
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,040
is first 75 and then I and I may not

1530
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,400
have this exactly right, but then Oh,

1531
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,319
you have it in

1532
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:19,040
>> uh 75 100 125,

1533
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,799
>> but it's over a longer period. I'm

1534
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:22,960
intrigued by what you're putting forward

1535
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,400
the idea of pay it faster

1536
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,520
>> for less. um

1537
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,359
>> don't come to court, don't but also

1538
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:32,799
street, right?

1539
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:36,240
>> But also, let's also recognize that it

1540
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,480
it's not a system that anyone likes. But

1541
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,559
we do currently have a system that says

1542
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,920
if you feel that you are unjustly fined,

1543
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,880
you come to the come to the the justice

1544
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,559
and you make your argument and they have

1545
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:52,240
discretion. We set the limits, then they

1546
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,040
decide. And if you're convincing, you

1547
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,200
might get your ticket reduced by the

1548
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,000
justice. So, there is a system in place.

1549
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,200
I don't I don't want to make it sound

1550
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,480
like it's I just want to make sure we're

1551
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,720
clear that it's not all or nothing.

1552
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,920
There is a system in place and some of

1553
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,760
the things that you're suggesting may

1554
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,559
really help.

1555
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,480
>> Yeah, I absolutely understand all those

1556
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,839
things. We're just saying that starting

1557
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,720
point of 75. And I also want to just

1558
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,480
note all of those things that you said

1559
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,720
before that, you know, tariffs, you

1560
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,720
know, this long list. Yeah. has

1561
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,440
compounded. We we are feeling that and

1562
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,960
then we're feeling this on top of it.

1563
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,960
Plus, we just came out of CO like and

1564
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,359
we're still just came out of CO for some

1565
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:33,760
of us. Some of us are newer and you know

1566
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,280
other other circumstances, but

1567
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,640
>> some of us will never come out of that

1568
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,680
trauma.

1569
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,440
>> Never some of us are just feeling it

1570
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,200
now. I mean, there's there's so many

1571
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,920
things to consider, but I also want to

1572
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,880
um I economics just in general, a lot of

1573
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,839
people can't afford almost anything now.

1574
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:51,440
And what if you made that mistake? you

1575
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,119
came and you brought your your, you

1576
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:55,280
know, your family to Main Street and you

1577
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,680
got that ticket that you really can't

1578
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,040
afford and maybe you just wanted to

1579
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,200
stroll for the day, you know, whatever

1580
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,559
it is with your family and then you get

1581
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,760
that $75 ticket. Is that person able to,

1582
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,599
you know, even come back to fight it?

1583
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:11,200
You still have to have the means to do

1584
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,240
all of these things. And we want to be a

1585
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,480
place that is for everyone, right? We

1586
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,920
don't want it to just be investors that

1587
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,520
are coming in and taking over our

1588
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,640
village. We want it to be the families,

1589
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,319
the people that are, you know,

1590
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:26,240
supporting little league and all the

1591
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,680
other things. And a $75 ticket, period,

1592
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,720
as your first ticket does tell anybody

1593
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,960
that we don't want you here. And I just

1594
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,480
hope it's considered.

1595
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,160
>> Can I can I ask a question

1596
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,920
example?

1597
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,520
>> Um,

1598
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,520
how do they how do people know that

1599
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,960
that's the system? Because as the mayor

1600
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,280
noted here, if you get a ticket,

1601
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,200
>> I assume this is the case for most

1602
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,640
places where you would get a ticket, but

1603
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,680
there is a a means to address it and,

1604
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,000
you know, quote unquote fight it.

1605
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,559
>> Appeal.

1606
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:08,079
Thank you. I want to say fight

1607
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,200
appeal.

1608
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:09,599
>> Um,

1609
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:12,099
>> no fighting or try not to fight.

1610
01:04:12,099 --> 01:04:13,839
[laughter] Talk about it in a productive

1611
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:14,640
way.

1612
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,319
>> Problem solved.

1613
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:17,440
>> Problems. [laughter]

1614
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,200
Um, and so I guess what I wonder is I'm

1615
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,559
sure there's people who make mistakes.

1616
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:24,720
I'm not, you know, earlier when I was

1617
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
asking, you know, this person who says

1618
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,319
that they get a $75 ticket and they're

1619
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:31,359
like I I'm sure there's people who make

1620
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:34,319
mistakes. I'm not arguing that I I'm not

1621
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:36,559
questioning the goodness of people's

1622
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:38,480
hearts or minds when they come here. I I

1623
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,200
don't have time for that. But

1624
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,520
what I wonder is

1625
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,359
um

1626
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:49,440
how does Maine tell not Maine but that

1627
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,119
>> how do people there know that they can

1628
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:54,799
>> print on the ticket probably

1629
01:04:54,799 --> 01:04:57,280
>> okay so I mean I well that would be kind

1630
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,799
of an interesting thing right so you get

1631
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:01,440
a ticket if it's not printed on our

1632
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,839
tickets then maybe that's something

1633
01:05:03,839 --> 01:05:05,760
regardless of what the end price is

1634
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,880
going to be

1635
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,880
>> that they know that there is a means to

1636
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,839
address it if they feel that it was, you

1637
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:13,839
know, they messed up and they don't, you

1638
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:16,720
know, they're very reasonable here. You

1639
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,400
just go online and you do it. You don't

1640
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,680
have to physically come back to

1641
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,440
>> But people are paying those tickets is

1642
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,039
what I'm saying. So the numbers that

1643
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:26,960
they're seeing and they have it all. I

1644
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,119
mean, they're really really comparable

1645
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:30,960
to us. Um, the numbers that they're

1646
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,319
seeing is that those people are just

1647
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:34,000
paying for it whether they want they

1648
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,760
think it was wrong or not. They're just

1649
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,440
paying it because they would rather not

1650
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,520
pay the gas that they're paying to get

1651
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,960
back to to do whatever it is.

1652
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,559
>> And you think it's because it's

1653
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:45,599
>> a lower and you're incentivized because

1654
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,440
it because you know that the next day it

1655
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,480
will go up.

1656
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,520
>> So you're like, "Oh, I'm just going to

1657
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,480
do this.

1658
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,119
>> I'm not going to fight it another day to

1659
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:54,240
go fight this."

1660
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,520
>> No. I mean, I think that's very

1661
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,880
interesting. I just wondered how that

1662
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,480
was articulated. how people know that

1663
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,480
and they don't know that there's an

1664
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,000
opportunity here when they get a ticket

1665
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,920
to

1666
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,920
>> I think people do know I I

1667
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,520
>> they do it does it says right on the

1668
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,720
ticket I mean I don't have I don't have

1669
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,319
one in front of us right now but it does

1670
01:06:10,319 --> 01:06:12,000
say on the ticket to dis how how to

1671
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,160
dispute there's a QR code

1672
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,039
>> the I think we've al we've got a giant

1673
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,200
agenda after this and I very much

1674
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,880
appreciated the conversation we could go

1675
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,599
on all night so I think we found a lot

1676
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:25,119
of common ground you feel like we've

1677
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:26,640
found a lot of common ground or some

1678
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,559
common ground anyway I think we found a

1679
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:31,039
lot of common ground,

1680
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:31,599
right?

1681
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:35,359
>> Okay. So, Kate and Kada,

1682
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:38,880
um, let me know about the 10th. Um, and

1683
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,200
we'll take it from there.

1684
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200
>> Okay, that sounds great.

1685
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,240
>> Um, okay. Yep. Yep. That's another

1686
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,400
point. Never mind. All good. All good. I

1687
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,680
appreciate you coming in person. I

1688
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,599
appreciate you coming in person and

1689
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,359
hanging out for the whole conversation

1690
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:57,161
to have a conversation.

1691
01:06:57,161 --> 01:06:58,319
>> [laughter]

1692
01:06:58,319 --> 01:06:59,359
>> have a really good night.

1693
01:06:59,359 --> 01:06:59,680
>> Thank you.

1694
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,799
guys.

1695
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:03,119
>> Thank you.

1696
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,680
>> Okay.

1697
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,520
>> Um

1698
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,920
so Parsonage Street um we know that

1699
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,960
there is there is failed storm storm

1700
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,119
infrastructure. Good night. Good night.

1701
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,480
on uh Parsonage Street. The property

1702
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,480
lines on Personage Street are a little

1703
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,680
wacky and we have a lot of uh private

1704
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,920
homes

1705
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,720
uh roof roof drainage drainage draining

1706
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,319
into our storm drain. So, we need to

1707
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:32,319
figure out where the property lines are.

1708
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:34,319
Um

1709
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:36,960
there it has been bid out by Han. Good

1710
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,640
night, Matt. Thank you. Thank you for

1711
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:39,039
staying.

1712
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:39,680
>> Thank you.

1713
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,960
>> It's bid out by Han. Um

1714
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,240
the although it is the longest. Are you

1715
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,440
trying to say something to me?

1716
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:47,680
>> No.

1717
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,200
>> Okay.

1718
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,559
I'm trying to find out where we are

1719
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,960
though.

1720
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,480
>> The cheapest the cheapest is the

1721
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,680
cheapest by a lot. By 8,000 bucks. Is

1722
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,839
that right? Yeah. Not 7,000 bucks. Um

1723
01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:05,119
the longer time frame, but much less. Um

1724
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:09,839
Matt did ask to be on Rowan's schedule

1725
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:13,280
for surveying um pending the board

1726
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,239
approving the acceptance of that

1727
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:19,269
discussion.

1728
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,920
This is uh sorry I should say that it is

1729
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,279
for the benefit of the public. It is um

1730
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,480
the first step toward repairs on

1731
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:31,359
necessary repairs on Parson Street. You

1732
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:34,400
got it. Yes.

1733
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,630
discussion.

1734
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,520
Like to make a motion.

1735
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,799
>> I make a motion to accept the

1736
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:45,279
engineers's recommendation

1737
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,759
to accept the bid of row and landing

1738
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:51,759
PLLC for surveying services for the past

1739
01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:55,359
improvement project for $4,000 with an

1740
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:58,159
anticipated time frame of six weeks.

1741
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:03,910
Second. All in favor? I thought I

1742
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,920
holding our spot quickly. It's going to

1743
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:11,829
be

1744
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:15,120
um next we are closing out the

1745
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,359
transition of the

1746
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:19,839
court clerk from the former clerk to the

1747
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:25,199
current clerk. Um, and Justice

1748
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,040
Hilbert, I wrote Costello, Justice

1749
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,199
Hilbert has let us know that he will not

1750
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:30,960
belabor all the issues that have had

1751
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,000
getting to the court where it needs to

1752
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,000
be, but frankly

1753
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,480
don't know how, this is what I was

1754
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:37,520
speaking to earlier. I don't know how

1755
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,799
the court is operating with such

1756
01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:40,960
antiquated systems. The transition has

1757
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,600
been a complete overhaul. So, our ask is

1758
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,719
that um consultant Kathy Costello be

1759
01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:49,199
paid for 23.5 hours that she worked in

1760
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:50,960
June and she be allocated an additional

1761
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,600
eight hours to finalize training. Court

1762
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,360
is prepared to have that taken from our

1763
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,760
budget. Um Cathy's guidance is more

1764
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,440
important than anything else the court

1765
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:01,600
need at this time. So, the June, which

1766
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,360
is $50 an hour, the June amount is

1767
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,679
roughly 1,175

1768
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:09,440
and the eight remaining hours is 400.

1769
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,040
Discussion

1770
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Hearing

1771
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,960
none. Would someone like to make the

1772
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,520
motion? I make

1773
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,120
>> I make a motion to authorize the mayor

1774
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,360
to approve payment consulting Cath

1775
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,080
Gastello for 23 and a half hours worked

1776
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,800
in June and budget for an additional

1777
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,640
eight hours finalized just court clerk

1778
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,960
training at a rate of $50 per hour.

1779
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,840
>> All in favor?

1780
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,560
Okay, next I I will probably rely on

1781
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,120
Marjorie and Andrew a bit. I want to

1782
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,840
thank Andrew for taking the time to to

1783
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,880
dig in. It was

1784
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,560
you were we were close to the edge

1785
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,920
there, but you took the time to dig in

1786
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,000
and ask good questions. Um so the cost

1787
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,159
of all of our liabilities,

1788
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:03,360
our liability insurance is included

1789
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,760
um in this bid. We have a new layer of

1790
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,760
insurance which is cyber security. Um

1791
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,600
>> it's renewal.

1792
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,600
>> I'm sorry. Renewal I was thinking it was

1793
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,600
new. Thank you. Renewal that is through

1794
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,360
travelers. Um so that number is included

1795
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,679
in the final here. The total amount of

1796
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:27,669
$132,553.14

1797
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:29,760
which is due in two component two parts

1798
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,199
two payments. Um, I just want to point

1799
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:35,600
out that we have nearly $19 million in

1800
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,600
assets that we need to protect between

1801
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,360
our buildings and our equipment,

1802
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,600
our people. Um, so we are this is not a

1803
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,760
small operation.

1804
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,679
>> Um, discussion. Andrew, do you have any

1805
01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:52,400
comments to make from you?

1806
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,679
There there are a few questions that I

1807
01:11:53,679 --> 01:11:55,520
went over with with the um the

1808
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,800
underwriters and um or the brokers and

1809
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,159
um they answered them all

1810
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:04,000
satisfactorily. Um the one

1811
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,760
the yearto-year difference is an

1812
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,679
increase in premium of about $6,000.

1813
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:10,159
That's primarily

1814
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:12,880
and that's um

1815
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,640
as Margie the clerk pointed out is

1816
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,120
partly due to um a rerate an increase um

1817
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,440
rerating the value of the buildings. um

1818
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,199
the 60 cent increase I believe

1819
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:25,440
>> also you know this is a liability

1820
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:28,159
general liability insurance and the cost

1821
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:30,719
of replacing anything as any homeowner

1822
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:33,199
knows right now the cost of construction

1823
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:36,239
has gone up astronomically so it's cost

1824
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:37,840
of materials

1825
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,120
>> and just uh increased value of home so

1826
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,600
it's inflation plus increased cost of of

1827
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,440
material 6%

1828
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,199
>> and that being said the overall price

1829
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,360
has gone up $6,000 So I think that's a

1830
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,920
pretty pretty fair um price to pay

1831
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,080
>> from year to year for the year policy.

1832
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,840
That's right. And you know cyber

1833
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,239
security too that you know overall

1834
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,960
that's included in the big chunk and

1835
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,040
cyber security went up pretty

1836
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,159
significantly you know you know $800 you

1837
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,000
know but

1838
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,679
>> um that's our risks are higher for

1839
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:18,560
everyone and so cost of insurance is

1840
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,600
>> and that's what I was thinking about

1841
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,800
when I said new I was focusing on

1842
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,120
the recent issues that that we are

1843
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,920
focusing on it's a it's a part of it's a reality on our everyday day life to

1844
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,320
protect our everyday operations to

1845
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,320
protect records and protect functions

1846
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,360
and

1847
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,320
>> frankly it's costs time also

1848
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,120
>> and lots of time

1849
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,080
>> it's lots of time so yeah so

1850
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,960
>> we paid in two pieces pay 50% and

1851
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,440
another 50%

1852
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:52,950
>> do we have a starting resolution number

1853
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,560
» didn't write it down and I promised I

1854
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,280
would I'm sorry I think it's 34 but

1855
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,640
please let me back. So, sorry I'm

1856
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,916
getting glared at.

1857
01:14:02,916 --> 01:14:07,910
[laughter]

1858
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,960
» You [clears throat] don't know what my

1859
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,280
day was like.

1860
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,800
>> Today, don't worry about it. Should

1861
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,280
Would you like us to work with 34? How

1862
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:16,719
would you like us to handle it?

1863
01:14:16,719 --> 01:14:18,320
>> I I think you should put it in

1864
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,199
>> as 34.

1865
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:21,520
>> No, I think you should say tentatively

1866
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,280
34.

1867
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,760
>> I will renumber them.

1868
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,630
>> I'm sorry. Don't look at Mar.

1869
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,560
» Okay. So, would someone like to move

1870
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,120
tentative resolution tentative

1871
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,640
resolution 34?

1872
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,239
>> 34. Is that what you said?

1873
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:40,000
>> I think 34.

1874
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,600
>> I could be wrong. We have to read it for

1875
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,080
the record.

1876
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:42,719
>> Yes, we do.

1877
01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:44,640
>> Okay.

1878
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,640
Resolution number tentatively 34-2026

1879
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,400
village of Cold Spring Board of Trustees

1880
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,600
approving the renewal of general

1881
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,199
ability insurance. The following

1882
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,080
resolution was offered by myself for

1883
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,880
adoption in second 5B

1884
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,120
by the mayor to whereas the village of

1885
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,040
Cold Springs general liability insurance

1886
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,199
policies are due to renew on August 1st,

1887
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,440
2026. And whereas the village has

1888
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,440
received a renewal proposal from the New

1889
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:14,800
York Municipal Insurance Reciprocal

1890
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,480
in the amount of $128,200

1891
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:23,590
and 200 128,21.14

1892
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,120
has received a cyber security liability

1893
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,199
renewal proposal from travelers in the

1894
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:32,480
amount of $4,352.

1895
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:34,159
And whereas the total premium of the

1896
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,000
package of insurance renewals is

1897
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,149
$132,553.14

1898
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:42,239
the period of August 1st 2026 through

1899
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:44,400
August 1st 2027.

1900
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,480
Now therefore, it is hereby resolved that

1901
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:50,000
the village of Cold Spring renews the

1902
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,520
general liability insurance policy

1903
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,120
through the New York Municipal Insurance

1904
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,600
Reciprocal and be further resolved that

1905
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,360
the village clerk treasurer is

1906
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,199
authorized and instructed to execute the

1907
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:00,960
plans documents on behalf of the village

1908
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,400
of Cold Spring. On a roll call. Can I

1909
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,840
make a slight amendment to the

1910
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,000
resolution that the village of Cold

1911
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,679
Spring renews the general liability

1912
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:11,840
insurance policy through New York

1913
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,280
municipal insurance reciprocal and

1914
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,520
travelers.

1915
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,040
We're purchasing our cyber insurance. So

1916
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,280
>> there is a paragraph that the second

1917
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,760
paragraph and has received

1918
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:26,480
>> renewal proposal

1919
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,400
>> a renewal proposal for travelers in the

1920
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,400
amount of 4,000. Is that not

1921
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,679
>> I think it's just in the resolved

1922
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:32,000
section.

1923
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,800
>> Oh, in the resolve part section.

1924
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,320
>> Okay. And I got it. Got it.

1925
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,510
>> Is that amendable to the mover?

1926
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,719
» I I am the second and I am amendable.

1927
01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:49,440
That so um it's a roll call vote.

1928
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,440
>> May I ask a question for understand this

1929
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,280
is do we pay twice a year?

1930
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:53,679
>> Yes.

1931
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:55,840
>> Okay.

1932
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,159
And we pay there's another invoice that

1933
01:16:58,159 --> 01:16:59,760
just came in today that wasn't in the

1934
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,800
packet or travel. We pay travelers

1935
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,159
directly. So that's $4,300.

1936
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,880
>> That's paid off$52 and that's separate.

1937
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,840
So that's

1938
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,480
>> two times that.

1939
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:15,120
>> Thank you.

1940
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,679
>> Okay. So it's a roll call.

1941
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:20,239
>> Trusty Bis is absent.

1942
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:22,320
Trusty Boosezie.

1943
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,199
Trusty Hall.

1944
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,199
>> Yes. Trusty Woods.

1945
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:26,000
>> Hi.

1946
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,760
>> And Mayor Foley.

1947
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,480
>> Hi.

1948
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:34,950
>> Resolution is adopted. 4001.

1949
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,120
» And the next item, I am delighted that

1950
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,840
the tree advisory board. There were four

1951
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,239
um resignations starting with Tony and

1952
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:47,120
then three others. Um people who have

1953
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,199
served a really long time and deserve

1954
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,760
some some time off from that volunteer

1955
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,600
position. and we've had really excellent

1956
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,640
candidates. So, um the acting the

1957
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,760
interim chair Taro Ayataka has

1958
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,320
recommended Jane Demick um and Kathy

1959
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,880
Carnival to sit on the tree advisory

1960
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,360
board discussion

1961
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,920
and then this new this newly excuse me

1962
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,320
this newly constituted group will make a

1963
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,239
recommendation for chair and we appoint

1964
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:18,070
the chair.

1965
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,840
Can we collapse this into a single?

1966
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,360
>> Do we know the term end date?

1967
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,719
>> Oh, yes. There's two different

1968
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:25,600
>> Oh, you're right. There two different

1969
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,080
terms. That's why. Okay. So, I make a

1970
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,440
motion to accept the recommendation of

1971
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,480
interim tree advisory board chair

1972
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,480
Ayataka to appoint village resident Jane

1973
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:36,400
Demick to a seat on the board for a term

1974
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,800
ending 12 2026.

1975
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,159
>> Second.

1976
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:42,000
>> Okay. And I make a motion to accept the

1977
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,760
recommendation of interim tree advisory

1978
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,719
board chair Tero Ayataka. He's really

1979
01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:50,000
insistent on the interim part is interim there

1980
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,080
>> to appoint village resident Katherryn

1981
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,640
Carnival to sit on the board for a term

1982
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,920
ending 12 2027.

1983
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:58,960
>> All in favor?

1984
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,480
>> I

1985
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:06,159
just for the record it's 121 20.

1986
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:07,600
>> It's the day it's the day that the

1987
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,120
village legal year starts the day of our

1988
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,880
reorg.

1989
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,199
Okay. Um,

1990
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,199
sad lady,

1991
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:19,440
we have four proposed to accept the

1992
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:23,520
resignation of Abigail McKini. Um,

1993
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,400
Abigail did a fantastic job while she

1994
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:27,920
was here. We knew that we wouldn't have

1995
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,440
her forever, that she would go off and

1996
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:32,000
do other fantastic things. She was

1997
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,920
headed back to grad school. Um, so just

1998
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,440
give you a bit of this. We're concerned

1999
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,480
that this is we're going into a time

2000
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,000
there are a number of large applications

2001
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,920
coming in. It's been quiet for a while

2002
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,840
now. We have a few large applications

2003
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:53,280
coming in. So, while we um search for a

2004
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,520
permanent replacement, the former board

2005
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,920
secretary Karen Herbert is amendable to

2006
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,679
coming in and helping us through that

2007
01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:02,480
busy time. So between the coverage of

2008
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,640
Marjorie and

2009
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,080
Delana and Karen, we'll we'll get we'll

2010
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,640
get through somehow, but we need this to

2011
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,320
turn around quickly because it is a

2012
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,520
that's a big chunk of the daily work.

2013
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,360
>> So

2014
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,600
>> and and a lot of night work. Marjorie,

2015
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,199
you know, now doing us. She did zoning

2016
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:25,040
board last night. Next week she's got

2017
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,800
planning. Yeah.

2018
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,440
>> Too much for one person if you want.

2019
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:36,390
creativity. [laughter]

2020
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,560
» Abigail,

2021
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,960
>> uh, I make a motion to, uh, accept the

2022
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,040
resignation of village of Cold Spring,

2023
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,880
Abigail Henny from her position as

2024
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,719
secretary to the signing board effective

2025
01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:49,679
Friday, August the 7th, 2026, and

2026
01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:54,560
authorize the advertise advertisement advertisement of the open

2027
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,880
position.

2028
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:03,030
Second, all in favor? Hi.

2029
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,520
» Um, and just the secretary to the zoning

2030
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,679
board that is her that is the title

2031
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,840
under civil service.

2032
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,480
>> Um, okay. The moment that you have been

2033
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:15,920
waiting for.

2034
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:16,640
>> Yeah.

2035
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,640
>> Event coordinator.

2036
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,000
We have before us the

2037
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,199
proposal from the chamber to host the

2038
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,040
Halloween parade between the hours of 4

2039
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,320
and 7:30 on October 24th.

2040
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,000
Um,

2041
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,560
a bit of conversation about this post

2042
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,880
meeting the other day.

2043
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,280
Um, the the chamber has traditionally

2044
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,560
gathered on St. Mary's lawn but not

2045
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,199
asked. Um, and I

2046
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:47,760
>> pretty sure I told them they had.

2047
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,080
>> So that's what I was making sure that

2048
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,199
they did. And I don't know when St.

2049
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:54,320
Mary's will be ready with their

2050
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,000
applications, but I know that this is on

2051
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,880
the St. Mary's radar.

2052
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,960
This may evolve as St. Mary's evolves

2053
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,719
its practices. So we what we are being

2054
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:04,880
asked to approve tonight is not what is

2055
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,800
on the lawn, but the actual parade,

2056
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,719
which we have budgeted for in terms of

2057
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:13,830
public safety discussion.

2058
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,880
Okay, I'd like to make a motion. I make

2059
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,960
a motion to approve Cole Spring Chamber

2060
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,440
of Commerce application to host the

2061
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,040
annual Halloween parade between the

2062
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,679
hours of 4 and 7:30,

2063
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:30,550
October 24th, 2026.

2064
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,480
» You want to read the rest or is that

2065
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:35,199
part? Well, I guess

2066
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:38,719
yeah from St. Mary's bond route 9D and

2067
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:42,159
Main Street to stand second. All in

2068
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:44,800
favor?

2069
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,000
>> I saw Halloween items in the store this

2070
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,040
weekend.

2071
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,120
>> Please let us have the rest of our

2072
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,040
summer.

2073
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,280
>> Okay. Um,

2074
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,360
next is an approval. So, this this is

2075
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,520
the annual Church Street block party,

2076
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:04,550
which is super fun.

2077
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,520
They always do it on the Sunday of Labor

2078
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,920
Day weekend. Block the whole block. I

2079
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,679
did have Lilian and I both had

2080
01:23:11,679 --> 01:23:13,280
conversations with the officer in charge

2081
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,120
about some of his concerns about the

2082
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,960
event. Um the the challenge in the last

2083
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,760
couple of years has not been people

2084
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,600
coming onto the street. It's people

2085
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,480
driving their cars on residents on

2086
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:28,880
Church Street driving their cars on the

2087
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,120
street. So what he has asked for two

2088
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,440
things. He's put used cones in the past.

2089
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:36,080
This year he's going to use barriers.

2090
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,960
Um and he asks

2091
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,960
Lillian through you that the um the

2092
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,320
organizers on Church Street

2093
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,040
create a documentation. You mean a P

2094
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,040
door to door something so that everybody

2095
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,560
knows when the street is closed that's

2096
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,639
closed for you park ahead of time out.

2097
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:58,639
>> Email was sent to Joe Jody. You've

2098
01:23:58,639 --> 01:24:00,560
already done it. um asking her to do

2099
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,760
that and also asking her to reach out to

2100
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,080
the residents of Main Street who parked

2101
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,080
in that back parking lot behind the old

2102
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,040
CE.

2103
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:09,679
>> Yeah.

2104
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:12,080
>> Um because I know through experience

2105
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,600
with the fire company

2106
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,080
>> that they sometimes get forgotten about.

2107
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,800
>> Okay, great.

2108
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,280
>> So Jody has not responded back to me,

2109
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,480
but you know.

2110
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:23,280
>> Well, so so permission granted pending

2111
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,280
confirmation of communication would be

2112
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,030
my proposal.

2113
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,960
Um,

2114
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,920
so, uh, I make a motion to approve the

2115
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,760
request submitted by Jody Curly Egan on

2116
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:36,960
behalf of the residents of Church Street

2117
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,400
to close Church Street on Sunday,

2118
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,360
September 6th, 2026, 12:00 noon through

2119
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:42,880
the evening hours for the neighborhood's

2120
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,920
annual block party pending confirmation

2121
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,040
of communication regarding

2122
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,800
parking for Church Street residents

2123
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,040
themselves and Main Street residents who

2124
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,639
park at Church.

2125
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:58,159
>> Second. All in favor?

2126
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:01,440
And another thing. Okay,

2127
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:04,000
next. Um,

2128
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,920
Mary Malakus painted our tunnel the

2129
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,920
first time in June 2023. Actually, it

2130
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,880
was July 2023 during the storm that she

2131
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,360
was finishing. She painted it once as a

2132
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,840
donation. She repaired it after the um

2133
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,560
after the floods as a donation. She has

2134
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,320
now repainted it a third time post the

2135
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,400
construction to repair the tunnel and

2136
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,120
she's a working artist. We need to pay

2137
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,920
her. Um so she she has build us for her

2138
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,440
time. The project is complete. It looks

2139
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,239
fantastic. $3,600.

2140
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:42,719
Um and this will come as out of the

2141
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:44,800
general village improvement fund.

2142
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,870
Welcome.

2143
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,120
Good. Someone like to make a motion?

2144
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,920
I make a motion. No, go ahead. Uh, we

2145
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,440
approve the payment to artist Mary

2146
01:25:57,440 --> 01:26:01,520
Molakis for the pedestrian tunnel mural

2147
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,480
repairs of $3,600.

2148
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:06,239
>> Second. All in favor?

2149
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,639
>> I I

2150
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:10,719
Okay,

2151
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:13,120
now on to the schedule. So, I tried to

2152
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,440
make this simple. There are a couple of

2153
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,120
typos that we caught after it went out

2154
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,239
to you, but from our discussion in our

2155
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:22,000
last meeting,

2156
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,520
um Michelle was on vacation that week,

2157
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,480
so there were a couple of there were

2158
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:28,080
some things that she caught. So, um Oh,

2159
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,520
you know what I didn't bring? I printed

2160
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,000
out the resolution from John and I

2161
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,600
didn't bring it. Do you have it? You

2162
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,719
have it? Put it in.

2163
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:38,719
>> You can make a motion. Okay.

2164
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:41,440
>> It is 35. I didck the number. So the

2165
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:45,280
last one was definitely 34 and list 35.

2166
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,719
>> So just to talk you through what's

2167
01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:48,639
changed since the last time. Um

2168
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:49,920
everything that's highlighted in bright

2169
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,040
yellow are changes. Um Ann pulled up

2170
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,120
genealogy research. Um we did do some

2171
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,800
research on the motor vehicle incident

2172
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,679
and accident report with the DMV. So $25

2173
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:05,600
is um for that. We made the correction

2174
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,440
on the off streetet parking waiver. It

2175
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:10,960
now says 1,000 per space.

2176
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,040
Somehow I missed the transcription of

2177
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,639
pools, hot tubs, and spas. I don't know

2178
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:17,840
how that happened, but now it's in

2179
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:22,400
buildings, standing board reviews. Um

2180
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,920
Michelle, and I agree with her, thought

2181
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,560
we should clarify that HDRB is escro fee

2182
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,800
for public hearings only.

2183
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,400
Um,

2184
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,960
and her recommendation in looking at

2185
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,080
these escros was that

2186
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,800
as costs have increased per hour of

2187
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,760
attorney time, $1,000 isn't enough for

2188
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,280
most applications. Um, so she

2189
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,920
recommended that we bump to 2500.

2190
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,520
Um, where we have left it low,

2191
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,920
where I am proposing that it is left low

2192
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,639
is under tree advisory board. Um, it's

2193
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,320
very rare that babies give a little

2194
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,560
turning. There have been um there have

2195
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:03,120
been one

2196
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,080
>> What page are you?

2197
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,239
>> I'm on page four. I'm sorry that I'm not

2198
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:07,920
I'm just blathering on. I've looked at

2199
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,280
this things.

2200
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:09,840
>> Yeah.

2201
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,960
>> Um the tree advisory board used the

2202
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,360
village attorney once last year for a

2203
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,840
take down application where there was uh

2204
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,000
friction between neighbors. So, it's not

2205
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,560
as often and it was a a quick

2206
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,120
consultation. So my proposal is 500 for

2207
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,080
their escrow when needed on a case- by

2208
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,320
case basis.

2209
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,040
Um

2210
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,280
they'll also helped clean up some

2211
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,920
language related to water and waste.

2212
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,239
Remember we were talking about

2213
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:42,880
there being people who refuse meters

2214
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,760
versus people who have meters that can't

2215
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,600
be accessed to read and need a manual

2216
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,600
read.

2217
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,960
Um so her recommended language was

2218
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,000
quarterly manual read accessible meter

2219
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,920
and it shouldn't should just say just one rate not in village out the

2220
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,480
village

2221
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:04,639
that needs to be modified and then

2222
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:06,560
quarterly penalty for inaccessible

2223
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,480
slashoutdated

2224
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,040
and on those like some of them are

2225
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,840
literally built behind walls

2226
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,239
etc. there w there is an opportunity for

2227
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:19,360
people to expose them again. Um though

2228
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,960
her recommendation was that as an

2229
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,880
incentive we note that

2230
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,760
um there will be a prorated correction

2231
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,199
once they corre once they fix the the

2232
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:32,800
accessibility.

2233
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:38,229
>> How far back does the go?

2234
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:46,950
It would be that year.

2235
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,080
» It's not like it's one year.

2236
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,679
>> Oh, no. Just like when you when you buy

2237
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:54,800
a house and you close out.

2238
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:59,440
>> Oh, this is But okay, go ahead. Maybe.

2239
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,800
So, so this charge we have to go and do

2240
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,159
a manual read at this house because

2241
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:08,480
either they have intentionally or they

2242
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:10,639
bought a house that somebody blocked

2243
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:12,159
access to the yeah

2244
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:16,480
>> to the meter. So, uh we this is a this

2245
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,360
to incentivize people to move forward

2246
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,120
and get them accessible to us. We charge

2247
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,679
a fee for our guys to to go to those

2248
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:26,000
houses and do a manual read. Her

2249
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,800
suggestion is that is that in that year

2250
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,199
just like as you when you buy a house

2251
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:35,679
you prorrate your quarter what you owe

2252
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:36,880
the buyer and the seller make an

2253
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,280
exchange of of money. Her suggestion was

2254
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,040
that happened for that year

2255
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,440
in a in a prorating transaction. Sounds

2256
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:48,080
like it needs to say for that year

2257
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,800
fiscal year.

2258
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,719
I think I read it as as for however many

2259
01:30:54,719 --> 01:30:56,560
years they've been paying the quarterly

2260
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,280
penalty. That is not what's intended.

2261
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,430
So, let's fix that language.

2262
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:07,920
» Um, usage per rated for that for current

2263
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:13,030
fiscal year.

2264
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,440
» Okay, that's that's Yep. Thank you. Good

2265
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:27,669
catch. That makes more sense.

2266
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:29,920
modifications in water, waste water.

2267
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,120
That's it. We do I have started an

2268
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:37,679
inquiry with um John first and and will

2269
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:39,840
Angelo about how what changes we need to

2270
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,480
make in the code to set appropriately

2271
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:46,560
set um

2272
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,600
font performance fonts and

2273
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,840
calculation that's not determined by the

2274
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,679
crew chief all by himself.

2275
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:55,920
>> So that is that will be we'll return to

2276
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:57,280
that.

2277
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,239
>> So

2278
01:32:00,239 --> 01:32:02,800
the resolution then would be as amended

2279
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:03,520
in session.

2280
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:03,920
>> Yeah.

2281
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,360
>> Okay.

2282
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:10,480
>> Uh resolution number had anything right?

2283
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:13,760
>> Um resolution number 35 2026 updating

2284
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,199
and amending the fee schedule. The

2285
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:17,440
following resolution was offered by

2286
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,080
Trusty Bozy for adoption and seconded by

2287
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,960
second

2288
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,960
>> trusty Woods. Uh whereas the village of

2289
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,040
Cold Spring previously adopted a fee

2290
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,400
schedule for the village whereas the

2291
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,000
village of Cold Spring fee schedule does

2292
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,840
support the fees associated with various

2293
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,760
village services and fines and

2294
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,480
connection with enforcement actions. And

2295
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:36,560
whereas the board of trustees announced

2296
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,360
a meeting on July 22nd, 2026 to present

2297
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,920
a draft of the updated P village P

2298
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,480
schedule. Whereas the updated and

2299
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:46,719
amended village of Colbury PE schedule

2300
01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:51,280
um here directly A as amended in

2301
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:52,800
session.

2302
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,760
Um and is hereby resolved that the

2303
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,239
village of culturing fee schedule uh

2304
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,400
attached as exhibit A is adopted and the

2305
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,080
fees and fines listed therein are

2306
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,920
effective the date of this resolution.

2307
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:14,709
>> Second all in favor

2308
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:18,560
» trusty Bis is absent and trusty Boozie

2309
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,239
>> hi Paul.

2310
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:21,280
>> Hi

2311
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:29,270
>> Trusty Woods. Hi.

2312
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:30,000
» Thank you.

2313
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,760
>> The fee schedule is officially adopted

2314
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,719
by vote of course

2315
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:38,400
final version tomorrow.

2316
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,719
>> Uh no Monday. Okay. Um bills. Who's got

2317
01:33:42,719 --> 01:33:48,470
the bills?

2318
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,320
I can go grab the

2319
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,639
>> number

2320
01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:55,440
on the agenda with the correct amount.

2321
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:56,480
>> Who's saying it?

2322
01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:57,840
>> I don't mean go get

2323
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,000
>> I make a motion to approve bill badge

2324
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,800
number 8576

2325
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:07,430
now to 221,26.36.

2326
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,760
Second favor.

2327
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,560
>> I anything notable on that batch?

2328
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:18,870
>> Insurance

2329
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,560
motion to adjurnn.

2330
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:21,920
>> All in favor?

2331
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,830
>> I

2332
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,239
thank you everybody.