[0:18] Good evening one everyone. It's August
[0:20] 12th. Um I'm calling the uh on the
[0:24] August 12th. Sorry, Mario throw me off.
[0:27] I can't even get the first sentence out.
[0:29] August 12th, 2026. Um I'm calling the
[0:32] meeting to order at 6:34. Um we were
[0:35] intending to start at 6 and had to wait
[0:36] for quorum. So we are starting a bit
[0:39] late. Um, first item is roll call
[0:44] >> and trusty Bis is absent. Trusty
[0:47] Boosezie.
[0:49] >> Trusty Hall
[0:53] >> and Mayor Foley.
[0:55] >> Okay. And now I will make a motion to
[0:57] enter attorney client session to discuss
[1:00] collective bargaining negotiations and
[1:02] employment history of a particular
[1:04] individual. Second.
[1:06] >> All in favor? I. So, we should be back
[1:09] between 7 and 7:15.
[1:18] » Good evening everyone. It is 7:38.
[1:22] Um, we appreciate your patience as we
[1:25] were in um an a session with our
[1:27] attorney attorney client um guidance. At
[1:31] 7:36, I made a motion to exit exe
[1:35] attorney client session and the deputy
[1:38] mayor seconded. We all voted in favor to
[1:40] exit. That is for the record.
[1:44] Um we did open the public meeting
[1:47] um before we went into executive session
[1:50] and did roll call. So now we'll make a
[1:52] motion to return to executive up to
[1:54] public session at 7:38. Second.
[1:57] >> All in favor?
[2:01] fun, right? Aren't you so glad you came?
[2:05] Okay. Um, so we have a few items of
[2:08] business before our our usual business
[2:11] before we have conversation with you.
[2:14] We'll come back to you, but very
[2:15] quickly, um, there are a couple of
[2:18] things I'd like to draw out from the
[2:19] department reports, but otherwise, I'd
[2:22] like to, um, make a motion to accept
[2:24] them as submitted. the department and
[2:27] uh committee reports.
[2:30] So sh I'll draw out those things and
[2:32] then make that motion. Um on the highway
[2:36] side paving on Kembell is happening next
[2:38] Tuesday. Um we were able to use
[2:42] across the county. So the town of Kent
[2:45] and the county trucks are going to pave
[2:47] that section on Tuesday. Hoping it
[2:50] doesn't rain. been a challenge with that
[2:53] spot because every time we get it
[2:54] prepped to pave normal hopefully take us
[2:58] time. Um I wanted to Matt, are you
[3:01] comfortable with me officer in charge?
[3:03] Are you may I read your um statement
[3:06] from your
[3:08] >> You can read it or I can read it however
[3:09] you want to do it.
[3:11] You know, sometimes things are hard and
[3:13] sometimes things are really beautiful.
[3:15] And we had a really beautiful thing
[3:17] happen in the village over the last
[3:18] couple of weeks. And um Officer Jackson
[3:20] noted it in his monthly report. And I'd
[3:23] like it the public to hear it. Every now
[3:26] and then, we're reminded that the
[3:28] greatest strength of our community isn't
[3:29] found in a budget, a program, or a
[3:31] government agency. It's found in the
[3:32] people who call this village home. I
[3:35] want to thank our residents, our
[3:36] faithful communities, our police offic,
[3:39] excuse me, our police officers, our
[3:41] county and state partners who came
[3:43] together this month to help a woman
[3:45] facing homelessness. When resources were
[3:47] limited, you stepped up with compassion.
[3:49] You didn't ask whose responsibility it
[3:51] was. You simply asked, "How can I help?"
[3:54] You offered food, clothing,
[3:55] transportation, temporary shelter, and
[3:57] encouragement. What could have been a
[3:59] story of someone falling through the
[4:00] cracks became a story of hope. No one
[4:03] person solved this problem. No single
[4:04] organization had all the answers. It was
[4:06] a true community effort. Helping one
[4:09] person won't solve homelessness. But it
[4:10] changes a life and it shows our
[4:12] character. Simply put, it truly takes a
[4:14] village. To everyone who played a role,
[4:16] whether your contribution was large or
[4:18] small, thank you. Your generosity,
[4:20] kindness, and willingness to help a
[4:21] complete stranger, reminded us all of
[4:24] what makes this village such a special
[4:26] place.
[4:28] Little Jackson.
[4:30] Um I wanted to note that the fire
[4:33] company report um since we've been
[4:36] having more in that flood season um the fire co fire company does not
[4:41] provide routine water pumpout services.
[4:44] If your basement is flooded with water,
[4:46] don't call the fire company. The the
[4:48] vehicle the apparatus is not made to
[4:50] pump dirty water out of buildings. Um,
[4:53] pumpout responses are limited to
[4:55] situations involving an immediate threat
[4:56] to life, a significant threat to
[4:58] property, property, or other extreme
[5:00] emergencies. For non-emergency water
[5:02] removal, please contact a licensed water
[5:04] mitigation company or restoration
[5:06] company.
[5:10] And those are the things I wanted to
[5:12] pull out. Anyone else had anything they
[5:14] wanted to make comment on from boards or
[5:17] committees?
[5:18] >> Reservoir level is that%
[5:22] but um it's good.
[5:32] Okay. Um
[5:35] Smart Task Force I believe has some
[5:37] items. Yeah.
[5:38] >> Yeah. I um I'll give you all just kind
[5:41] of a brief update on things of where
[5:43] we're at. Um but we'll come to like the
[5:46] preview um that you'll be hearing more
[5:49] soon. So um we saw a number of grants
[5:52] from our um NAERTA climate um community
[5:56] program. One of them is about $16,000
[5:59] that was going to be for the high street
[6:01] EV chargers. Um we now have um EV
[6:05] chargers that have been installed but
[6:07] just not um connected to power that um
[6:10] are down by the boat club. Uh those were
[6:13] um free to us. Uh so we still had
[6:17] $16,000 that we'll use and we are aiming
[6:19] to put um EV chargers for the police
[6:23] department and and the water department
[6:24] to use um at the highway garage. So we
[6:26] just need to get quotes. Um, but that's
[6:28] our that's our aim for the $16,000 at
[6:31] least. Um, so that will come to you all
[6:34] the contract modification. And then we
[6:35] have this $175,000 grant. Um, that is
[6:39] still a challenge to kind of get the
[6:41] logistics going, but ultimately it's for
[6:43] solar and the EV um the police
[6:46] department. Um, so expect to see all
[6:48] those coming
[6:50] um over the next few months. Um,
[6:52] deadlines that were far away are now
[6:53] coming closer. really do.
[6:57] Um and then just the update, a little
[7:00] bit of my update, a little bit uh kind
[7:03] of smart task force, we're really moving
[7:05] ahead with the flood grant.
[7:06] >> Yeah. Um we have really great
[7:08] consultants that are doing both
[7:10] analytical piece of looking at what are
[7:12] flood risks and what does it look like
[7:14] in the future and what are the solutions
[7:15] that we can have. And then we have
[7:16] another um great organization that will
[7:19] be doing a resident um uh webinar um and
[7:26] kind of a training and we are thinking
[7:28] of doing a survey uh through the climate
[7:30] part task force to um collect um
[7:33] information from residents about their
[7:34] experiences uh and and issues that
[7:37] they're seeing.
[7:38] >> Thank you to you and Marjorie for all of
[7:40] the hard work and Michelle getting time.
[7:42] >> Yeah. Yeah, we have some reporting that
[7:44] we're working on. Uh so yeah, so that's
[7:48] I guess that's just like a little bit of
[7:50] a lay of the land and I'd love to have
[7:52] formal pieces to all stand.
[7:57] » Anyone else have anything
[8:00] one more update is that had a really
[8:03] great meeting last week with um members
[8:08] of the best from St. ies code
[8:10] enforcement officer judge Jackson and
[8:14] some members of the chamber um to
[8:17] discuss events at Lake Mary's. So we
[8:19] want
[8:22] and raise money to support its buildings
[8:24] but we also have to make sure that
[8:25] there's required public safety and that
[8:28] we're meeting building codes etc. So it
[8:30] was a super productive session. Um the
[8:32] best is drafting um an application
[8:36] contract and they're going to run them
[8:37] past OS Jackson and the code enforcement
[8:40] office to make sure it touches on all of
[8:43] the things that need to refer to the
[8:45] village you know for this item for tents
[8:48] permits etc etc. Um and I also like
[8:51] Julian to have a look at that too comes
[8:53] in to see what areas of overlap and I
[8:56] feel confident that we can um I feel
[8:59] confident that we can address some of
[9:00] the
[9:02] pedestrian and traffic issues that have
[9:03] been happening around those events.
[9:12] Okay. So, now we're moving into board
[9:14] business,
[9:16] our
[9:18] chamber of commerce. So, if we could
[9:20] start, I'm gonna I have some some
[9:23] comments, but first just with
[9:24] introductions because I I've met you
[9:25] briefly. Yeah.
[9:26] >> But go ahead. Hi, I'm Laura Bozie
[9:30] trustee
[9:32] mayor Tweeps Woods
[9:37] trustee
[9:38] >> one of our trusties
[9:40] earlier we know
[9:42] >> Gina Larson I'm the owner with my
[9:45] husband here of Brian Monkey home
[9:49] >> your windows are really happy it's nice
[9:53] to have them in the the center of Main
[9:55] Street
[9:56] >> I enjoy the colors a We love our new
[9:58] location.
[10:00] >> Um, so the chamber recently sent a
[10:03] letter asking questions and requesting
[10:05] an update on the paid parking program.
[10:08] Um, I first want to say thank you to all
[10:10] of you who've um been communicating with
[10:13] us for your collegiality and cooperative
[10:16] tone. And I believe sorry I Kate Borhees
[10:18] Ben Vorhees is also online um
[10:22] representing the main street committee.
[10:24] So, thank you all of you for being
[10:27] collegial and being cooperative. It's so
[10:29] much more productive for everyone when
[10:30] we just talk things through and find
[10:33] answers. So, we're grateful. Um, the
[10:35] timing of your inquiries inquiries is
[10:37] really great because we've got great
[10:39] momentum following up on previous
[10:42] inquiries and suggestions. Um, and I
[10:45] just want to recognize that we can't
[10:47] address all of your concerns at once,
[10:50] but we are committed to working with you
[10:52] through in a in a reasonable manner. Um,
[10:55] I am committing to meet with you once a
[10:57] month. Um, I think we proposed September
[11:00] 10th as the
[11:03] and then we'll bring into those monthly
[11:05] meetings trustees. Andrew has particular
[11:08] strengths and data that I don't have.
[11:09] Laura has particular strengths.
[11:11] Everybody. So if there are times that it
[11:12] makes sense to have another trustee with
[11:14] us um or staff and one of the most um
[11:18] well and then we bring we'll carry the
[11:20] recommendations that come out of those
[11:22] sessions to the full board for
[11:24] discussion. Um so the goals for tonight
[11:27] um this isn't a public hearing. This is
[11:29] a conversation with the main street
[11:31] committee. Um the board will decide if
[11:33] we take comments. Um and I'd like us to
[11:36] focus on the content of the letter. Um
[11:38] there were seven topic areas. Um, some
[11:41] of them are already working on and I'm
[11:43] going to update you on those areas. Some
[11:46] are going to need more consideration and
[11:48] discussion before implementations.
[11:50] Um, and just it's important to recognize
[11:52] that this program sort of goes handin
[11:54] glove with the residential parking
[11:55] program on our side street. So just
[11:58] being cognitive that when we tweak one
[12:00] area, it has impacts on that program
[12:02] too. So we we need to be thinking of how
[12:04] they all fit together.
[12:06] Um, and then I want to ask for some some
[12:09] explanation of some of your concerns and
[12:11] letter. There are things that we don't
[12:12] understand will be helpful to have
[12:13] feedback on so we know how to how to
[12:14] address the questions going forward. Um,
[12:17] so I hope that we'll we'll set action
[12:21] items for moving forward. Um, I also
[12:24] want to set the expectation that our
[12:26] primary constituency is our residents.
[12:28] Um, Main Street is one element of the
[12:31] village and one element that has needs.
[12:34] There are lots of elements that had have
[12:35] needs. It is a very important element.
[12:38] Um it's critical to our thriving economy
[12:41] and our community. Um we're also village
[12:45] fiduciaries. The paid parking brings in
[12:48] about 5% of our general fund income,
[12:50] which seems small, but it has impacts
[12:53] broadly. Um that's our focus and that's
[12:56] what's expected of us from residents and
[12:57] taxpayers. And ultimately any code
[13:00] changes, anything we discuss that
[13:03] requires code changes and some things
[13:05] will require tweaking the vehicle and
[13:06] traffic um chapter that will all have to
[13:10] go to public hearing. Um so there'll be
[13:12] a chance for everyone to be engaged in
[13:14] that in those at that time. So again um
[13:18] we're not going to take any final
[13:19] decisions tonight or solve all the
[13:21] issues, but we're going to talk. Um so
[13:25] first um what's in progress? Um over the
[13:30] summer we had um an intern who did a a
[13:35] photographic um
[13:38] uh inventory catalog of all of the signs
[13:42] in the lower village, all the signs on
[13:44] Main Street. Um one of the things that
[13:46] we feel pretty strongly about is Main
[13:48] Street is cluttered and it's just visual
[13:50] cacophony and it's hard to see the
[13:52] things you need to.
[13:54] She made recommendations for removal
[13:56] needs. we need to come back as a board
[13:58] and and approve the removal of some of
[14:00] those signs. Some of the signs don't
[14:01] lead to anything anymore. So, getting a
[14:03] cleaner slate to work from. So, that is
[14:06] in process and we'll be talking about
[14:07] that probably in September. This is our
[14:10] only meeting this month. Um,
[14:13] we've been working on identifying and
[14:15] establishing
[14:16] specific residential parking area in the
[14:18] lower village. that residential parking
[14:20] area has existed since 2015, but there
[14:23] was never it was never identified which
[14:25] places are for residents only. So, we've
[14:28] been having conversations with residents
[14:29] and think we have narrowed down what
[14:31] those streets should be. The board needs
[14:33] to have that conversation. That's a code
[14:35] change. Um
[14:38] the way finding signs are in and do you
[14:40] want to we have an example to show you?
[14:44] Someone wants to
[14:45] >> maybe
[14:48] they're all wrapped up together,
[14:51] >> but
[14:55] keeper so as we go through the meeting,
[14:57] you can look at them.
[14:59] >> Alex said don't
[15:03] just maybe just show it. I'm I'm
[15:05] speaking on behalf of my designer did
[15:07] not make these. Um but um he has a full
[15:12] slack explained all
[15:17] » at home.
[15:19] >> They're primarily designed for
[15:23] >> um walkers and then there are some that
[15:25] are car direction.
[15:26] >> I think the best thing is
[15:29] that's going to be a long way off in the
[15:30] background.
[15:30] >> It's all right. I think you can get
[15:32] these. There are there are two that are
[15:34] already that you can see
[15:35] >> and the whole the whole the whole plan
[15:37] is is online so you can go back and get
[15:40] it but they're here. Um we have we've
[15:43] had hit a bit of a bump getting bids for
[15:45] we want we want these to be really high
[15:48] quality and for that that visual
[15:50] identity to carry through the village.
[15:52] Um, so we're we're stacking um sign
[15:56] posts that are high quality and heavy
[15:59] and it's taking us a little time to do
[16:00] it, but there there it is in process and
[16:02] they're coming and it will continue. We
[16:04] got permission from Metro North um start
[16:06] in the train station and proceed
[16:08] throughout the village and be at the
[16:10] village
[16:11] >> and yes
[16:17] » exactly
[16:19] >> um
[16:22] >> and then the last update to give you is
[16:24] um on Park Mobile. So when the signs
[16:29] that we have on Main Street are the
[16:30] signs that we got for free when we first
[16:32] had a contract with Parkable. They're
[16:34] not ideal. It's what we could afford at
[16:36] the time when when the parking
[16:40] best effort to get it off the ground. We
[16:43] knew it would need to be modified and
[16:44] tweaked and we're in a good place
[16:47] because Park Mobile Park mobile is
[16:49] rebranding. Um, I've had an initial
[16:52] conversation with Park Mobile about um
[16:56] making our signs
[16:58] uh reducing the number of them, making
[17:00] them larger, making them cleaner um and
[17:03] easier to read and easier to use. So, I
[17:05] was hoping that for today I'd have some
[17:08] of the mockups they've done, but I
[17:09] haven't yet. I expect them soon. So,
[17:11] we're working on lots of the things that
[17:14] um chamber and individual merchants and
[17:17] others have asked us to do. And it seems
[17:20] like it might seem from your perspective
[17:22] that we're not that we're not doing
[17:23] those things, but it's only because it's
[17:24] not visible on a on a daily basis for
[17:27] you all. Those things are moving
[17:28] forward.
[17:30] So, um
[17:34] that's where we are. Um, I I have some
[17:38] thoughts about
[17:40] what can be taken up in the short term
[17:42] and what what need to be longer term
[17:44] considerations, but given where we are
[17:46] right now, we'd love to hear from you.
[17:48] >> Yeah. Um, you know, we just want to say
[17:51] thank you and we appreciate the open
[17:53] dialogue here. We understand, you know,
[17:56] the program is only two plus years new
[17:59] or so and so there's absolutely going to
[18:03] be an evolution in everything. So, we
[18:05] just wanted to kind of uh restate the
[18:08] things that the chamber is asking for
[18:10] right now. Um, which is some of the
[18:13] things that you've already addressed,
[18:16] which is improving the parking signage.
[18:18] I think we know that there are kind of
[18:20] multiple signs going on. It gets
[18:22] confusing for visitors to see what days
[18:26] the parking is. And we hear that too as
[18:28] like store owners too, them coming into
[18:30] the shops like, "Did I have to pay? How
[18:32] do I pay? Oh, you don't have to pay
[18:34] today. You know,
[18:35] >> and we experienced that at Village Hall,
[18:36] too. We have the maps in the front door
[18:37] and we, you know, we'll often open the
[18:39] door and say, "You don't have to pay
[18:40] today." So,
[18:42] >> um, and then second is reducing the
[18:44] parking fine. Um, right now the $75, we
[18:48] took a survey and we have some paperwork
[18:51] if you'd like us to share that with you.
[18:53] I know we submitted it via email. Um,
[18:56] but it just seems very out of line for
[18:58] other municipalities in the area. So,
[19:02] they're typically around $30, $40. $75
[19:05] seems really excessive. Um, so we're
[19:09] asking for that to be reduced and maybe
[19:11] even consider having an incentive to
[19:14] reduce the ticket if it's paid within 24
[19:17] hours. We've seen um other towns like
[19:19] Greenwich, Connecticut do that. It
[19:21] reduces the paperwork for you having to
[19:23] follow up if they have a quick easy way
[19:25] to pay for that.
[19:27] Um, one of the third things is just
[19:29] enforcing the five-hour time spots. Um,
[19:33] we know that
[19:35] residents kind of taking up some of
[19:37] those spots. Um, or people just kind of
[19:40] like squatting there. Um, we're asking
[19:43] that we more actively ticket those
[19:47] areas. Um, and perhaps we can ask
[19:49] villagers to utilize like driveways and
[19:52] residential spots to leave those free
[19:54] for people visiting the town. Um, there
[19:58] are some 15minute spots on Main Street,
[20:01] but we're asking if more could be added
[20:04] um for quick pickups and just drop off.
[20:06] Um, that's for both merchant and
[20:10] villager um utilization.
[20:13] Um, right now we also have a 4hour time
[20:17] cap. We're asking for the to just remove
[20:20] the time limit, which just doesn't seem
[20:22] enough um for some of the visitors to
[20:24] like come in, wait for a table for a
[20:27] restaurant, to go shopping, to go enjoy
[20:29] the waterfront for a while, have like
[20:32] ice cream at mumoos and everything. So,
[20:35] um I think that the same per hour meter
[20:38] revenue is less hassle for people to
[20:40] have to like move their car to a
[20:42] different spot. Um I know you might have
[20:44] heard different things in the past.
[20:47] Yeah, that was one of the questions I
[20:48] think Andrew and I have talked about and
[20:50] perhaps you two have had to. So, this
[20:53] the process of of getting to paid
[20:56] parking is multi-year.
[20:57] >> Yeah.
[20:58] >> Um Emily [laughter] has seen all of it.
[21:02] the pre-COVID initiative that that
[21:04] finally got actually it's been talked
[21:06] about for decades and it's finally been
[21:08] [laughter] put put in place. Um
[21:11] we have had a range of feedback from
[21:14] different kinds of merchants, some being
[21:16] food merchants, some being, you know,
[21:18] places where folks want to go in and try
[21:20] clothes on. We we have really mixed
[21:23] feedback about about that. um and the
[21:26] idea that a spot is um
[21:31] it's it's it's a it's an item to be
[21:34] consumed, right? It's a it's a
[21:38] for some stores it makes sense to have
[21:40] turnover. For other stores, it's
[21:42] frustrating to have that turnover. And
[21:44] we I feel like we have talked about this
[21:46] back and forth. We're certainly open to
[21:48] conversation, but it would be really
[21:49] helpful to get a better sense of
[21:54] where people are on that and what when
[21:56] it is helpful and when it isn't. We It
[21:58] is not a three-hour limit, it's a 4hour
[22:00] limit. Um, and that was reached for a
[22:04] number of reasons. One was turnover at
[22:06] tables, but also uh discouraging people
[22:10] from parking for the day and then not
[22:13] having anybody else able to park on me.
[22:17] I think we'd like to understand better
[22:19] that fair.
[22:21] >> Yeah.
[22:22] And I mean
[22:24] the the signitories on the letter
[22:28] represent a variety of different
[22:29] businesses on Main Street from sit down
[22:31] restaurants to kind of quick shops to
[22:34] longer, you know, clothing stores. And
[22:36] so I mean I could understand if people
[22:39] signed it because they they agreed with
[22:41] you overall but maybe they had like you
[22:44] know but but if but if you know if this
[22:47] really does represent what everybody
[22:49] felt like then
[22:50] >> do you feel like it represents a good
[22:52] it's a good swath of
[22:53] >> if I may also say that evolution that
[22:56] we're all talking about um has changed
[22:59] for a lot of people um and that it's
[23:02] something that isn't working for maybe
[23:04] people who thought it was working Yeah.
[23:06] >> Before. So, I think there is a a deep
[23:08] consensus now that having the limit is
[23:11] not beneficial.
[23:12] >> I think Kate might want to chime in too.
[23:14] Um I don't know if you want to unmute
[23:16] her, but yeah, I think that's exactly it
[23:18] is that beyond that people might have
[23:21] thought four hours was enough, but it
[23:23] really isn't.
[23:24] >> Well, that was part of again it was part
[23:26] of the experimentation. This is our best
[23:27] guess. Let's see how it goes. And if the
[23:30] feedback from Main Street is it's not
[23:32] working,
[23:33] >> one thing I know is that
[23:36] >> Main Street is is always full on the
[23:39] weekends. I mean, obviously January,
[23:40] it's something different, but yeah,
[23:42] >> even now in the spring and summer, it
[23:44] has been full all day, all day long. Um,
[23:47] and so that's a good thing.
[23:50] >> Kate, did you have anything you wanted
[23:51] to add on that?
[23:52] >> I think you guys are nailing it. It's a
[23:54] work in progress. Uh, we're feeling like
[23:56] three hours isn't enough. People are
[23:58] scrambling to get back to their cars and
[24:00] they would have
[24:00] >> four hours.
[24:01] >> Never been three.
[24:02] It's four.
[24:03] >> Sorry. I Yeah, four. Um, it might say
[24:06] three on the website. We should check.
[24:08] >> Early iterations early iterations were
[24:12] three with the opportunity to add a
[24:14] four. And that that may be what you're
[24:16] thinking of, but the signage is here
[24:18] comes Kada too. The signage is all four
[24:21] or should be all four.
[24:22] >> Um, yeah. Yeah. So, it just seems like
[24:24] some folks are are getting stuck
[24:26] scrambling to get to their car and
[24:27] they're not done shopping and enjoying
[24:29] the village. And the consensus is that
[24:31] if if they're here and they're enjoying
[24:33] the village and they're shopping and
[24:35] participating, then maybe we should just
[24:36] let them stay. Um so looking further into that would be awesome.
[24:44] >> I mean, from our perspective, it's the
[24:46] >> someone's pay park. It's revenue
[24:48] regardless of of who it is parking in
[24:50] the spot.
[24:52] So yeah, that's
[24:53] >> carry on. Sorry to interrupt.
[24:55] >> No. Um, our last point was something
[24:57] you've already brought up is just that
[24:58] open communication and being able to
[25:00] meet with you monthly. You mentioned we
[25:02] already have a date on the calendar and
[25:04] everything.
[25:06] We can really kind of iron out these
[25:08] issues and come to, you know, a better
[25:12] plan right now.
[25:14] >> And Kate, did we are we solid on
[25:16] September 10?
[25:18] >> Um, I'm checking with Kada, but that
[25:20] works for me. Um and I think having
[25:22] these monthly meetings will yeah will be
[25:24] super productive um a really good
[25:25] opportunity for us to share what we know
[25:27] and um try to improve things together.
[25:31] >> Well maybe then um shifting and I I do
[25:35] have want to give an opportunity for all
[25:36] of you to ask questions too but laying
[25:38] out parameters. Um it it seems like from
[25:41] your letter there are a couple of things
[25:42] that you can start we can start talking
[25:44] about right away in September. Um and one is getting a sense of of
[25:50] reporting and and data and what's
[25:52] helpful. Um
[25:55] we see us as the front, but we're not
[25:56] the people who really make the village
[25:57] work. Yeah. And I think sitting down
[26:00] with the court clerk and the accountant
[26:03] and the clerk to to figure out what it
[26:06] is exactly you're looking for and how
[26:07] closely we can get to providing it.
[26:09] There's been a lot of evolution from the
[26:11] court since this program began. we
[26:13] having two new justices and a new court
[26:16] clerk and she has been dragging the
[26:19] institution um into current time and
[26:21] sort of updating technology etc. So we
[26:24] may have capabilities for reporting now
[26:26] that we didn't have before. I don't know
[26:28] that's something we need to talk to
[26:29] Kelly about. Um so I would say that's one of the ones we can start
[26:33] addressing right away. Officer in charge
[26:35] Jackson um will be the the the most
[26:38] valuable person to you in terms of
[26:39] enforcement. Um, so he is here on
[26:43] Fridays, so maybe we can schedule a a
[26:46] Friday session or And then there's the
[26:49] longer term considerations that have code implications. You've asked
[26:53] about staff parking
[26:55] um the underlying state enabling
[26:58] legislation
[27:00] allows for the distribution of permit to
[27:02] people who live on the designated
[27:04] street. Um and we have not yet found a
[27:07] way that that is work can can be worked
[27:11] around. Um we have identified several
[27:13] areas where parking is usually an option
[27:17] for um workers. The
[27:21] sorry uh
[27:24] parking yeah winter parking yeah
[27:26] >> the boulevard um metro north and then of
[27:29] course everything above the lights is
[27:31] open parking. So, we don't have we don't
[27:34] have a lack of parking in Cold Spring.
[27:37] What we have a lack of is parking on
[27:39] Main Street. It's finite and we can't
[27:41] expand the number of spaces. If I could
[27:43] chime in to to that
[27:46] I because I if I could chime in. I think
[27:49] our the original draft of our letter um
[27:52] asked for staff parking and then we
[27:56] worked really hard and talked to a lot
[27:57] of merchants to truly understand why
[28:00] like what it's being used for. And it
[28:03] seems like what a lot of merchants
[28:06] really are struggling with is getting
[28:08] packages in and out of their shops. I
[28:11] wonder if that was the case.
[28:12] >> Yeah, it's I think that's the hardest
[28:14] thing. Like if you have a flower
[28:15] delivery or wine delivery or at times,
[28:18] you know, one of your best customers is
[28:19] coming in from Garrison, but they work
[28:21] in the city during the week and it's a
[28:22] Friday and shoot, they just can't get
[28:25] that present that they need to get from
[28:26] the general shop. And so a solution that
[28:28] we've found, well, TBD, but that we'd
[28:32] really like to look into is adding a
[28:34] second 15inut parking spot to every
[28:37] block. What's happening is a lot of
[28:39] those 15-minute spots are getting taken
[28:41] over by larger delivery trucks or just
[28:43] are being utilized. And so there's been
[28:46] so many times, me included, I was, you
[28:49] know, running to get pizza for soccer to
[28:51] bring back to Philipstown Park and
[28:53] realized I couldn't find any 15-inute
[28:54] spot and I need
[28:56] >> I needed to get back and I I luckily I
[28:59] live in the village. So I realized,
[29:00] okay, I can actually just go and park in
[29:02] my driveway on Fair Street. I am so
[29:05] blessed. and then I can sprint and get
[29:06] my pizza and then get out of here. But
[29:08] that's that's an anomaly, right? We
[29:10] can't assume that everyone has that
[29:11] luxury. And so we're really hopeful that
[29:14] these added 15 minute spots would help.
[29:17] I think right now our shop Cold Spring
[29:19] Ceramics is um towards St. Mary's right
[29:22] up towards 90. And there seem to be
[29:24] remaining spots most often available
[29:28] paid metered spots there. And so
[29:31] hopefully removing some of the spots
[29:33] further south would still allow for
[29:35] people to park a little bit fur further
[29:37] north and still pay um and it wouldn't
[29:39] be a detriment. I understand we'd have
[29:41] to restripe and we'd have to do new
[29:42] signage etc. Hopefully the signage can
[29:44] go hand in hand with the signage work
[29:45] you're doing and restriping maybe can
[29:48] fold into the next round of paving that
[29:50] would need to happen anyway. And so in
[29:52] an ideal world it all comes together.
[29:55] So, a couple of things. Um, it's also a
[29:58] code change. Um, and
[30:02] it's a reduction in the number of
[30:04] spaces. There's the there's the
[30:07] scenario, I agree with you, it's often
[30:09] that Upper Main Street is open, but
[30:11] there are the scenarios when we're at
[30:13] capacity, right? We're not at October
[30:14] right now. Um, in terms of deliveries,
[30:18] the officer in charge has had and his
[30:21] officers have had a number of
[30:22] conversations with um, merchants who say
[30:29] dropped off. They know they've got a
[30:31] delivery coming. They need to get stuff
[30:32] out of their own cars into shop. Let us
[30:34] know. Call Villa Hall. Call the police
[30:37] department and let us know and we'll
[30:39] help you. We'll put out cones for you or
[30:41] help traffic get around you as you're
[30:42] unloading. um that that is not ever a
[30:46] problem unless they're on obviously on a
[30:48] call. The officers are very willing to
[30:50] help with that. So that should be a
[30:51] problem that comes that's off the table
[30:53] and I don't know if it's that people
[30:55] don't realize that they can call or if
[30:57] they're nervous to call but that's
[30:59] something that we're open to doing to
[31:01] keep the traffic flowing. Is that
[31:02] correct?
[31:03] >> Yeah, we've done it before.
[31:05] >> I love that idea. But 10 times a day, I
[31:07] mean that would be such a distraction,
[31:09] right? if 10 different shops have to
[31:11] quickly run in, you know, a case of wine
[31:13] or grab some flowers or quickly drop off
[31:16] some ceramics or I don't I don't know
[31:19] that you
[31:19] >> want to solve all the problems and no
[31:21] answer is going to solve
[31:23] >> all the problems, but that's an option
[31:24] available to you. Did you have something
[31:25] you wanted to add there?
[31:26] >> I was just going to say half of what
[31:28] you're saying, Kate, is sort of dropping
[31:30] off
[31:31] >> and it says our internet is
[31:34] >> Yeah, it's it's quick. It's it's
[31:36] continuous and quick under 15 minute
[31:39] deliveries,
[31:41] um, pickups, customers coming in to
[31:44] purchase something that they've they've,
[31:46] you know, they know Main Street so well.
[31:47] They live in the town of Philipstown to to collect, right? They're not the tourist who's sort of window
[31:54] shopping and shopping, although they
[31:56] like to do that, too. So, it's just
[31:57] >> they can pay for parking coming in from
[31:59] Garrison,
[32:00] >> right? But when it's a quickif 15
[32:02] minutes, I think, and there's not
[32:04] parking close to their the shop, it's it
[32:06] gets a little bit more complicated. And
[32:08] so, it's providing for people who
[32:10] currently are in Phillipstown and feel
[32:12] like outsiders on their own main street
[32:14] um to to enable those transactions to
[32:17] happen, which definitely help merchants,
[32:19] and then to also just help merchants
[32:21] have access
[32:22] to their, you know, the their storefront
[32:25] when they need some deliveries. Bigger
[32:26] deliveries. I love Gina even mentioned
[32:28] when she was bringing in all her
[32:29] furniture, you all put cones out for her
[32:31] and she was able to easily access um her
[32:34] store to get set up and that's awesome
[32:36] and like we love love love that you can
[32:38] do that. I just don't want to burden the
[32:39] police department with 10 calls a day.
[32:43] May I um Jackson is it do we know which
[32:48] tickets
[32:50] happen for someone overstaying a
[32:52] 15minute I guess I'm wondering how much
[32:54] the 15minute parking spaces get um
[32:57] abused and it does feel like I mean I
[33:00] know that we have number of roving you
[33:03] know parking enforcement but like they
[33:04] have to be in a lot of places they're
[33:07] not they're I'm sure that they're not
[33:09] tracking all of the 15 minute all of the
[33:11] time because then
[33:12] So
[33:15] >> yeah, I guess I'm I'm curious.
[33:16] >> How do you check 15 minutes?
[33:18] >> Yeah, like like how well how how well
[33:20] people are following the
[33:24] >> for every 15 minutes. So if you see a
[33:26] car parked out there now, you're not
[33:28] you're going to notice it in 15 minutes
[33:29] whether it's there or not.
[33:30] >> Yeah. But you have to be back there.
[33:32] >> You don't know if it's already been
[33:33] there for 15 minutes.
[33:34] >> Well, I mean they could like
[33:35] >> or if it's been there for a half hour.
[33:37] >> No, you can't actually
[33:40] that is state law.
[33:43] another state.
[33:43] >> If you observe the car there right now,
[33:46] you have 15 minutes from when you
[33:47] observe that car to go back.
[33:49] >> No, I I understand. I guess
[33:51] >> have already been there for 15 minutes
[33:52] already.
[33:53] >> No, I guess that's what I'm saying is
[33:55] that it requires continual
[33:58] >> tracking and so I was curious how much
[34:02] >> how much we're taking there or how much
[34:04] we have to sense or maybe you all have
[34:06] the sense because you know your eyes are
[34:07] like looking out on main street all the
[34:08] time. do notice that people are just
[34:10] like, well, there's no
[34:11] >> 15 minutes on our side of the street.
[34:13] So, it's a different it's the it's the
[34:16] opposite side of the street. So, it
[34:17] makes it that problem compounds
[34:20] >> with small deliveries because there's
[34:22] nothing um I can't speak for everybody.
[34:25] I know for me it's police parking, two
[34:28] spots maybe, and then all yellow
[34:31] striping. So, I have several tickets
[34:35] >> unloading with things in my hands. I've
[34:38] just said put the ticket on top of the
[34:40] bot
[34:41] >> and that has definitely happened. So I
[34:43] mean it's a problem you know we'll
[34:45] there's lots of different ways I think
[34:47] that um we can get through this
[34:51] evolution because restriping and all of
[34:53] that work we know that that's sort of
[34:55] down the line. Um, one thing that I
[34:58] found, um, was that there are some of
[35:02] the metered systems that instead of, um,
[35:06] you know, if they don't have space for a
[35:09] merchant parking lot, which some
[35:10] municipalities do, um, they can load
[35:14] from the backends, and I know that we
[35:16] can do it through our system because I I
[35:18] checked, they can load credits for
[35:20] people. So, you could like put in a code
[35:23] and still just be in a normal parking
[35:25] spot. And you know, if each person is
[35:29] each business or something like that was
[35:31] allotted a certain amount for
[35:33] themselves, then they could park in an
[35:35] actual spot and then hopefully quickly
[35:39] unload rather than, you know,
[35:42] throw them in, right? And then the same
[35:44] problem would happen like if you wanted
[35:45] to put out poems and people were parked
[35:47] there and they like fill there. I mean,
[35:49] if all of these problems have more
[35:50] problems, right? So, I don't know. there
[35:53] might be some piecing together as this
[35:57] evolves that we can you know think of in
[36:00] certain ways especially during certain
[36:02] times of year right
[36:03] >> um and we know our busy season is May to
[36:06] October
[36:08] so
[36:10] >> definitely expanding
[36:11] >> yeah and it's definitely and it is
[36:12] expanding for sure like you know during the Christmas season um fe
[36:17] February March I it like I mean that's I
[36:21] see it fall off
[36:22] >> chaos season is September, October,
[36:25] November, but the the visitation is
[36:28] expanding through the year. Did you were
[36:30] you you sounded like you were hopping
[36:31] in?
[36:31] >> Uh no, I'm freezing. Oh, sorry. That was
[36:35] me just like my
[36:37] >> scattering. Thank you. Um what I was uh
[36:41] thinking about was the
[36:44] Have you identified spots 15 minute
[36:48] spots or proposed 15 minute spots? I
[36:51] don't think we've gotten to that level.
[36:54] Uh Kate, I don't know if you have
[36:56] anything.
[36:58] >> I I didn't. We're happy to. I think I
[37:00] provided you all with a diagram to help
[37:02] the high street conversation. So, if
[37:05] that format is useful, we can follow
[37:07] that format. I I was just curious in
[37:10] your since it's one of your
[37:13] asks if the if you had identified spots
[37:17] or if there were
[37:20] any I guess what I'm trying to get at is
[37:24] you know the one of the things about the
[37:26] parking for everyone is that you know
[37:29] when you want to park you want to park
[37:31] right in front of where you're going
[37:32] right and so that's often pretty
[37:35] difficult on Main Street or even on the
[37:38] side streets where I live where I want
[37:41] to park in front of my house and
[37:43] sometimes I'm not able and I have a
[37:45] permit, right? So
[37:48] I there has to be some sort of we have
[37:51] to be realistic about that. Um at the
[37:54] same time I do think that you know
[37:57] wanting to hop in and get your bottle of
[37:59] wine or your pizza, whatever, like it
[38:02] would be more convenient to be able to
[38:04] just park and be able to do that. I
[38:05] totally agree. I just wonder like we all
[38:08] we know we're working with a finite
[38:10] amount of spaces. So if there's
[38:13] something that's been identified that we
[38:14] don't see that would be helpful.
[38:16] Otherwise we're all looking as far as I
[38:18] know the same Main Street.
[38:21] >> Absolutely. Yeah, we can get you a
[38:23] diagram. I think we're asking for two. I
[38:25] know we're asking for two per block and
[38:27] we're assuming the second spot is
[38:29] opposite the first. So on either side of
[38:31] each block and the specifics of that
[38:33] location, I think we can be
[38:34] differential. If shop owners can get
[38:36] onto the side of their block on their
[38:38] block, it makes it much easier to load
[38:40] and unload our own packages and probably
[38:43] for our clients as well. But I can Yeah,
[38:45] I'm happy to do a draft diagram for your
[38:47] review
[38:48] >> because we also have to obviously
[38:50] consider
[38:52] revenue. Well, revenue, but also
[38:55] pedestrian movement.
[38:59] A lot of cutouts are weird because
[39:01] streets are weird. They're not the
[39:02] normal size. I mean, we just have a lot
[39:04] of kind of
[39:07] >> a lot of variables happening
[39:09] simultaneously. It's not just like, you
[39:11] know, nicely
[39:14] >> carb. It's not a suburb.
[39:16] >> And tell give you a history of how the
[39:18] 15minute spots landed where they did.
[39:20] This may help you and for how we were
[39:22] thinking about it. And and I want to
[39:24] make clear that all of this we had
[39:26] multiple public hearings. We had
[39:29] multiple, you know, public meetings and public hearings. Um some of these
[39:34] things you're not going to know until
[39:35] the program gets going, but there was
[39:37] extensive conversation about this at the
[39:39] time. The 15minute spots we purposely
[39:42] put
[39:44] near crosswalks to expand the
[39:47] sightelines for cars to see walkers and
[39:49] walkers to see cars. Um, we also
[39:54] in in putting it next to that there's so
[39:57] there's the crosswalk, then there's a
[39:59] state mandated 20 ft on either side of
[40:03] the sidewalk, then a 15-minute spot that
[40:06] also conveniently is about the size of a
[40:08] truck because truck deliveries are it's you're thinking about getting the
[40:15] stuff out of the truck. We're thinking
[40:17] about what happens when when the truck
[40:19] is parked and traffic needs to be
[40:20] moving. So there, you know, there there
[40:22] are multiple sides to this. And it did
[40:24] create long the 15-inute spots did
[40:27] create long locations where trucks can
[40:30] pull in and out more easily. Is it
[40:32] perfect? No. But it's provided more
[40:34] options. Um, trucks are always going to
[40:38] be a problem because we live in an age
[40:40] where everything is delivered. The
[40:41] Amazon is, you know, it's not just the Asendico trucks, it's the Amazon
[40:45] trucks, right? And that's all through
[40:47] the village. And we are a village that
[40:50] was not built in anticipation of the
[40:53] kind of commerce and lifestyle that we
[40:56] live now. So, it's we it's challenge to
[40:59] make
[41:01] the reality on the ground that
[41:03] everyone's wants and need. So, I'll say
[41:06] I'm I'm open to the conversation.
[41:09] I don't know that I don't know that we
[41:10] can do it, but I'm I'm open to you
[41:12] proposing things certainly.
[41:15] >> Can I ask a question on a different
[41:17] topic or do we want to keep
[41:20] >> I think we talked about that point.
[41:24] Okay,
[41:24] >> exactly. Um
[41:26] >> I'm curious on the improved signage
[41:28] since you hear a lot from visitors. Is
[41:31] it do you hear about both Main Street
[41:33] and side streets or particularly one or
[41:37] the other? We'll make a distinction.
[41:41] >> I would say it's it's everything. I
[41:42] mean, people don't know how to get where
[41:45] they're going.
[41:47] Um,
[41:49] >> the way Yeah. Yeah. And so I'll often
[41:52] like go out and walk out on the street
[41:55] and say bathrooms down there,
[41:58] mountains over there, boundaries over
[42:00] there. Like I'll say just follow this
[42:02] road around and take a
[42:04] >> like
[42:05] I I see but this seems weird. Or they'll
[42:08] start to walk down the residential road
[42:10] to go to Foundry and they're like, I
[42:12] came back because I thought that wasn't
[42:13] right.
[42:14] >> Yeah, it's right. Just keep going that
[42:16] way. Um yeah, parking.
[42:19] >> Sorry, I I should have made that.
[42:20] >> No, are you asking if people ask about
[42:22] parking?
[42:23] >> When people say that the parking signs
[42:25] are not clear about whether they should
[42:28] be paying for it on Main Street, are
[42:30] they also saying are you hearing the
[42:32] same thing about the residential
[42:35] restrictions on the weekends or is it
[42:37] more you're hearing about Main Street
[42:39] issues?
[42:41] >> I would say both. I don't know what it
[42:43] is on your block. It could be different.
[42:44] Yeah,
[42:46] >> I think my personal experience has been
[42:49] mostly the main street that they're
[42:51] asking about.
[42:52] >> That's one of the things we
[42:54] >> I'm on a corner.
[42:56] >> Yeah, I'm on a corner. It's a little
[42:57] different. Yeah.
[42:58] >> Yeah. True.
[42:59] >> That's one of the things that we think
[43:00] about is that, you know, we have
[43:02] parking, residential parking on the
[43:04] ends. Some folks have given feedback
[43:07] that it would be helpful to have more
[43:10] residential parking signs in the middle.
[43:12] Some people hate that idea. We're not
[43:14] going to make everybody happy. Um, but
[43:16] making it clear that the whole length of
[43:18] Church Street is residential parking.
[43:21] >> Yeah, I can I I have very strong
[43:25] feelings on this particular topic
[43:27] because it seems it is curious. Um,
[43:31] people
[43:35] I mean I I watch people look at a sign
[43:37] and park anyway.
[43:39] >> Yeah. Um and for that I say enjoy your
[43:42] ticket. Um
[43:46] I have also seen people kind of wonder
[43:48] well
[43:51] >> the arrows sort of facing like sort of
[43:53] awkwardly so does this count as like not
[43:56] kind of clear
[43:57] >> if that includes that. So I mean I think
[44:00] there is room definitely room for us to work on that. it it's just you know
[44:06] figuring out
[44:08] how to make it so that it's more clear
[44:11] but at the end of the day I do think
[44:13] that there are a fair amount of people
[44:15] who just decide
[44:18] well you know I'll take my chances which
[44:23] >> the other thing to realize is we can put
[44:25] up all sorts of signs we can't make
[44:28] people read them
[44:29] >> so the the block the block from Kemble
[44:34] down to fair. I can't remember how many
[44:36] signs we counted. 26
[44:40] parking signs.
[44:44] Park mobile and online apps are used
[44:46] everywhere now. Like think about where
[44:48] do you go that you don't pay for parking
[44:50] in dense areas.
[44:52] We can't we can put signs there. We
[44:55] can't make people read them, right? So
[44:57] people are going to get people are going
[44:58] to get tickets because they either don't
[45:01] see or they choose not.
[45:03] And that's just how it is. And it's
[45:04] going to upset people to get a ticket. I
[45:06] think we can have conversations about
[45:08] there there are several of us who are
[45:10] open to the conversation about reducing
[45:13] um the ticket price for sure. Um it for
[45:16] one I mean this the staff the court
[45:18] clerk would be delighted to not have to
[45:21] argue with people about have you know
[45:24] deal with people who are upset about a
[45:25] $75 ticket. Marjorie spends a good deal
[45:28] of her time arguing. Not arguing but
[45:30] listening to people. We listen. We just
[45:33] listen
[45:34] >> um to people who care very loudly about
[45:36] their ticket at the door.
[45:38] >> Um so
[45:40] we have to just the reality. We have to
[45:42] run some numbers and you know see can we do it? What's the right amount
[45:47] and when do we do it? And for us from a
[45:50] budgeting perspective it would be far
[45:52] better to do on the budget cycle. And I
[45:55] thank you for recognizing that in your
[45:57] letter. We go into budget season in
[45:58] February. But know that there is we are
[46:01] open to those conversations.
[46:04] >> Um, and I would like to work with you on
[46:07] >> we Kate and I had a discussion today on
[46:09] email about what comparables are. And I
[46:12] think maybe this is a good point for you
[46:13] to hop in and about what we were
[46:17] thinking as we saw the number saw the
[46:19] locations and numbers
[46:21] >> um in terms of the materials
[46:24] >> and comparability. Yeah.
[46:25] >> Yeah. Um, first off, I mean, I
[46:27] appreciate a hearty dialogue, too, and
[46:30] I'm open to the to the conversation. Um,
[46:33] I think a lot of things on this, I think
[46:36] they fall into I'm getting to your
[46:38] question, right? Right. Fall into sort
[46:41] of I don't want to be repeating myself,
[46:42] but different categories of things we
[46:45] can move with and create some momentum
[46:47] around immediately, other things that
[46:49] are more budget cycle dependent, and
[46:50] other things that I feel need um deeper
[46:54] exploration. I'm kind of wary um about
[47:01] taking too many making too many
[47:03] decisions without a further exploration.
[47:06] And so
[47:08] that that have been suggested like the
[47:09] parking fines for instance. Yes, I think
[47:12] generally there's there's a there's a
[47:17] an emerging consensus that that's
[47:18] something that can be addressed, but I
[47:20] don't think you can look at that in
[47:22] isolation. You can't break out the
[47:25] parking fines from all of the other
[47:27] jurisdictions that you could look at
[47:29] where there are so many other different
[47:31] variables that come into play in terms
[47:32] of some have free parking and that and
[47:35] the fines whilst you may say start are
[47:38] lower than the $75 say up in Beacon.
[47:41] They have free parking but the fines are
[47:43] for if you overstay the 4hour limit.
[47:46] not a five hour limit. So if
[47:48] you overstay that 4hour limit first
[47:50] offense is $50. The second is 100. The
[47:53] third is 200.
[47:54] >> Meaning you that license plate.
[47:56] >> Yeah. So
[47:58] >> if you look at it from that point of
[48:00] view, the fines in beacon are actually
[48:03] higher than here because if you
[48:06] overstayed three times here, it' be $75.
[48:08] 3 time 75 is less than $450, $350,
[48:13] right? So I think that and other
[48:17] questions need a lot more exploration
[48:19] amongst all of us before we sort of come
[48:23] to some
[48:24] conclusions or conclusory actions around
[48:27] what may need to shift or change. Um
[48:32] >> and I also think for me sort of
[48:35] contextualizing it within
[48:37] the operation of the village um the
[48:40] village's annual budget is $4 million.
[48:43] When I be before I was a board member, I
[48:45] love going to Rybeck because parking is
[48:47] free. I was, you know, fan of free
[48:49] parking. I like that concept. But
[48:51] looking at the reality of the village's
[48:52] finances, an annual budget of $4
[48:55] million, lots of needs that it has to
[48:58] meet and the parking fees from the the
[49:02] non- taxpaying portion of the budget,
[49:04] say 2 million, it's it's 10% of that
[49:06] budget. So that's that's meaningful
[49:08] numbers in terms of the way the village
[49:10] operates. So for me that's all
[49:13] >> that you're talking about the you're
[49:14] talking about the
[49:15] >> the paid parking revenue. Yeah. So
[49:18] that's um
[49:21] >> that's important to us. And so that
[49:24] needs to be balanced against the needs
[49:26] that you clearly have and what to
[49:28] represent. And I also feel that um
[49:34] well I hit one little note here. um you
[49:37] know there needs there's got to be a
[49:39] deeper dive into some of the dynamics
[49:41] that are being um talked about in terms
[49:45] of it's not
[49:48] understand what that looks like and I I
[49:50] know you hear it from people and that's
[49:52] aggravating and and challenging to deal
[49:54] with but how many people is that and how
[49:58] does it actually how's that reflective
[50:00] actually in
[50:02] revenues from month to month or how
[50:04] actually does
[50:06] impact your business. I think in the
[50:08] June 2024
[50:10] letter that you included you you you'd
[50:13] cited something about, you know,
[50:16] a a Zoom call that Jesse was on, right?
[50:19] And you said um
[50:21] >> easy and important metrics to gather
[50:23] would include monitoring monthly sales
[50:24] revenue growth or decline, average
[50:26] transaction total, and total number of
[50:27] transactions per month. So I I would in
[50:30] these conversations that we may be able
[50:32] to have amongst ourselves, I'd like that
[50:34] to be part of the conversation too. So
[50:36] that when when when
[50:39] the main street committee says that it's
[50:40] not beneficial to us, that it's actually
[50:42] borne out in terms of oh there was a dip
[50:44] here or the rise here. But again that may not necessarily always be
[50:49] attributable solely to the structure of
[50:52] parking, right? So we so we got to look
[50:54] at it.
[50:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. Having you recognize that is
[51:00] a giant step forward because in previous
[51:03] iterations and when when I mean when
[51:06] change happens nobody likes it it's
[51:08] difficult but there was a lot of initial
[51:11] sort of shock factor that parking is you
[51:14] know my sales are down 34% and it's your
[51:16] parking is it you know it's like we
[51:18] we're dealing with tariffs we're dealing
[51:20] with
[51:22] a different war then but there's so and
[51:26] consumer confidence is down. Yes. You
[51:29] can't pin
[51:31] also people's business plan. How how
[51:33] often are you open and are you open at
[51:36] times that people can get to you? Um for
[51:39] a lot of a lot of businesses don't open
[51:43] not a lot of several businesses don't
[51:44] open almost at all. Like they're only
[51:47] open on Saturday. So our parking is
[51:51] maybe not as much an issue as your
[51:53] business plan. So I think Andrew raises
[51:56] that and it's it's not an accusation.
[51:57] It's just saying you can't look at any
[52:00] of these things in isolation. It's a
[52:02] system that works together.
[52:03] >> I mean I think also as part of that
[52:05] conversation too is you could have to
[52:06] look at things like the enforcement
[52:08] window we have paid parking on three
[52:10] days of the week 24 hours total. other
[52:13] towns, Ryan Beck, uh, Pipsy, I think
[52:17] they have and and Beacon too, you might
[52:20] site lower fines,
[52:23] have um, parking regulations in force,
[52:26] if not throughout the week, if not
[52:29] throughout the whole seven days a week,
[52:31] certainly 5 days a week. So, that's a
[52:33] very different picture in terms of the
[52:35] collections they're making from that
[52:37] particular structure versus the village,
[52:39] which I think is, you know,
[52:42] Maybe it's it's it's it's
[52:45] um fines are an outlier, but the village
[52:48] is also an outlier in terms of its its
[52:51] size, the amount of available parking
[52:53] and its popularity, I think, too. So,
[52:56] >> yeah. And I think we probably could
[52:58] monitor, you know, some of the social
[53:01] chatter and, you know, I do think
[53:03] anecdotal like evidence is like, you
[53:06] know, valid here when we hear like I got
[53:10] a $75 ticket. I'm never coming back to
[53:12] Cold Spring, you know, or I'm never
[53:14] coming back on the weekend and
[53:16] everything. And I think that's what a
[53:19] lot of merchants here have heard from.
[53:22] >> Do you ever hear why they got the $75
[53:24] ticket?
[53:25] >> I mean, maybe it's I'm sure it's like
[53:28] overstaying, you know, and but sometimes
[53:31] you lose track of time when you're
[53:33] having a good time, too. So $75 just
[53:37] seems very punitive.
[53:39] >> I do. Yeah, there's so so many layers of
[53:42] this and I think all of the talking
[53:43] points we could dig into at length. Um,
[53:46] you know, overstaying is certainly one
[53:48] and members have talked about a grace
[53:51] period which other towns sometimes have.
[53:52] So, if you get to your car 5 minutes
[53:54] late, you don't have that ticket. Um,
[53:57] misreading signs is another that's being
[53:59] addressed. Um, and we do have data. I
[54:01] mean, Kada is an example, poor George,
[54:03] of a shop that's open seven days a week
[54:05] and she has data and she's been down the
[54:07] last year. There shops like mine on
[54:10] upper Maine. We're only open four days a
[54:12] week if I'm doing my
[54:13] >> your your um your connection is sort of
[54:17] dropping every
[54:21] >> hour internet connection.
[54:22] >> We just got a notice on the screen that
[54:24] our internet connection internet
[54:25] connection is unstable.
[54:26] >> I'll speak a bit more slowly because I
[54:28] do think some of these points that are
[54:30] coming up. I would I would hate for
[54:32] there to be a misconception that the the
[54:35] you know if a shop were only to have a
[54:37] better business model then that would
[54:38] change the revenue streams. I do know
[54:40] that a lot of shops that aren't open
[54:43] Tuesdays and Wednesdays are not open
[54:45] because they cannot afford to pay people
[54:47] to sit in the shop that is not shopped
[54:49] and so we make those decisions based on
[54:51] what's possible. I also know that people
[54:53] coming in from Garrison have stopped
[54:56] coming in as much because of the parking
[54:58] setup that they have sort of been felt
[55:01] and this is coming you know from a few
[55:03] people but one who I'm sure you all know
[55:05] quite well who's elderly and is a stable
[55:07] of this community. Um they feel
[55:09] unwelcome. They don't come to lunch like
[55:12] they used to because they feel
[55:13] unwelcome. And so
[55:15] >> they know that they have other places
[55:16] they can park.
[55:18] >> I I think it's it's the spirit. I think
[55:21] it's this sorry I just I think it's the
[55:23] spirit that's off. So if we assume that
[55:26] someone isn't just being you know
[55:29] willing themselves not to read a sign or
[55:32] thinking that they can just park for
[55:33] however long and not get a ticket. And
[55:35] we can honestly think these people are
[55:38] good people who are happy to shop
[55:40] whether they're part of the community or
[55:42] visiting and they've messed up. and
[55:44] that's the person getting a $75 punitive
[55:47] ticket and it feels so bad. And then
[55:50] they look at the comparisons in other
[55:52] towns and they see that it's anomalous
[55:54] and then we understand that part of it
[55:56] not driven by metrics that align us with
[55:59] other towns but rather than by financial
[56:01] need for the village. It becomes really
[56:02] complicated to explain it to them. It's
[56:05] as if I were to have a babysitter come
[56:08] to my house and the going rate around
[56:10] here is $16 to $20 an hour. It's harsh.
[56:14] And I were to say, you know what? I'm
[56:15] only going to pay you 10 because right
[56:17] now that's all I can afford. I'm so
[56:19] sorry. It just it doesn't it doesn't
[56:21] work. You know, it doesn't work. And so
[56:23] I think we need to find a way for the
[56:27] number to be something that people can
[56:29] anticipate is realistic and align to
[56:31] other villages.
[56:32] >> Can I clarify a point you've made?
[56:35] >> Sure.
[56:36] >> What where I thought you started is not
[56:38] where you ended.
[56:40] I thought you were describing anxiety
[56:42] about paying for parking, but it sounds
[56:45] like what you mean is anxiety about the
[56:47] ticket. Well, I think for some it's
[56:50] both, but certainly the $75 ticket is
[56:53] punitive and and no matter, you know,
[56:57] how Yeah. who you are and what your
[57:00] intention is, it's it's um something
[57:02] that I do think regardless of the income
[57:05] that it provides for the village needs
[57:07] to be separated out and that metric
[57:09] shouldn't be a variable in making that
[57:10] decision.
[57:11] >> Shouldn't be what? A variable in
[57:14] determining the rate of the parking fee
[57:16] should not be the village's bottom line.
[57:21] » Sorry, go ahead.
[57:23] >> Um
[57:25] I I'm glad that after a little while
[57:29] into the program, we changed the the
[57:31] parking rate. I think that that was the
[57:32] right thing to do and I think that that
[57:34] was the best that we could do
[57:36] recognizing that we had like financially
[57:38] we did have to do a paid parking
[57:40] program. I think that was like very
[57:41] explicit of a goal of the program, but
[57:44] it was the best that we could do to kind
[57:47] of meet the the visitors where they were
[57:49] at in terms of of paying. So, I think
[57:52] that that was right and and I I hope
[57:56] that we can do things to make people
[57:58] feel welcome, but I think we are, you
[57:59] know, there's still going to be like a
[58:01] paid still going to be paid parking on
[58:03] Main Street. I don't think anybody's
[58:05] suggesting that it's not
[58:09] >> the village is also a business.
[58:11] >> Yeah.
[58:11] >> Right.
[58:12] >> We are also businesses.
[58:14] >> We all have to think in those ways and
[58:15] we have considered all of those things
[58:17] that you've said. I don't and have never
[58:19] been under the illusion that
[58:22] >> this equals that. There are lots of
[58:25] components for anything to be successful
[58:28] and you just have to keep adapting as we
[58:31] are like as we're all trying to do. I do
[58:34] hope that you all will consider though
[58:36] that feeling because this is something
[58:38] that we hear over and over and over. It
[58:41] feels unwelcome. Yeah.
[58:42] >> And it does. $75 feels unwelcome.
[58:45] >> Certificate price feels like we don't
[58:47] want you here. And it sends that message
[58:50] and just consider it like it's not you.
[58:52] It's not not against anything like we're
[58:55] all trying to come up with a solution
[58:56] together to make what's best for
[58:58] everybody. We're considering all of
[58:59] these things. We don't think that you
[59:01] don't consider them. We know that you
[59:03] guys consider them. We know that you're
[59:05] working so hard to find so many
[59:07] solutions and you know there's not
[59:10] solutions, there's trade-offs, right?
[59:11] That's
[59:13] >> Yeah, you're right. There trade-offs.
[59:14] >> So, we have to keep considering those things together and $75. Um, one
[59:20] really comparative place is Camzen,
[59:22] Maine, and I actually spoke um with
[59:25] people from from there in in their um
[59:28] village hall today. And they experience
[59:31] sort of what we experience
[59:33] that they have, you know, their normal
[59:36] 5,000 residents, which is more than our
[59:38] village of 2,000, but it's very close.
[59:41] >> And they triple. They go to 16,000 or
[59:44] more. They're not even sure how many
[59:46] more during, you know, especially during
[59:47] the summer months. So they have their
[59:50] parking program. You know, you start in what would be like our little
[59:55] village. That's the most expensive to
[59:58] park and then it slowly gets a little
[1:00:00] bit lower. But their parking is the
[1:00:02] same. They have that, hey, your first
[1:00:05] ticket is $25. Pay it within this amount
[1:00:09] of time. If you don't, it's 50. It's 75.
[1:00:11] And then it becomes, hey, maybe you
[1:00:13] didn't know, you didn't read that sign,
[1:00:15] right? You weren't paying attention. you
[1:00:17] any of those things. Um, but you have
[1:00:20] the chance to make it right and here it
[1:00:24] is like do it, get it done, and let's,
[1:00:27] you know, let's let's move on. Um, and I
[1:00:30] think it's a really wonderful model. I
[1:00:32] do, and I think it's worth exploring and
[1:00:34] taking on those numbers and really
[1:00:37] seeing what we can do with that because
[1:00:40] the result is people saying that they're
[1:00:42] never coming back. And a lot of these
[1:00:44] people are local people and they just
[1:00:47] don't come in. I hear it all day long. I
[1:00:49] don't come in on the weekend at all. I'm
[1:00:50] not even, you know, they totally bypass
[1:00:52] us. And it's important for us to be
[1:00:56] strong.
[1:00:57] >> I am super open to the idea. Uh we I
[1:01:01] want to make clear that our code
[1:01:04] an increased amount. It's it's by right
[1:01:08] >> 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. So the ticket
[1:01:10] is first 75 and then I and I may not
[1:01:13] have this exactly right, but then Oh,
[1:01:14] you have it in
[1:01:16] >> uh 75 100 125,
[1:01:19] >> but it's over a longer period. I'm
[1:01:20] intrigued by what you're putting forward
[1:01:22] the idea of pay it faster
[1:01:26] >> for less. um
[1:01:27] >> don't come to court, don't but also
[1:01:31] street, right?
[1:01:32] >> But also, let's also recognize that it
[1:01:36] it's not a system that anyone likes. But
[1:01:38] we do currently have a system that says
[1:01:40] if you feel that you are unjustly fined,
[1:01:43] you come to the come to the the justice
[1:01:46] and you make your argument and they have
[1:01:48] discretion. We set the limits, then they
[1:01:52] decide. And if you're convincing, you
[1:01:55] might get your ticket reduced by the
[1:01:57] justice. So, there is a system in place.
[1:02:00] I don't I don't want to make it sound
[1:02:01] like it's I just want to make sure we're
[1:02:02] clear that it's not all or nothing.
[1:02:04] There is a system in place and some of
[1:02:07] the things that you're suggesting may
[1:02:09] really help.
[1:02:10] >> Yeah, I absolutely understand all those
[1:02:12] things. We're just saying that starting
[1:02:13] point of 75. And I also want to just
[1:02:16] note all of those things that you said
[1:02:18] before that, you know, tariffs, you
[1:02:20] know, this long list. Yeah. has
[1:02:22] compounded. We we are feeling that and
[1:02:25] then we're feeling this on top of it.
[1:02:26] Plus, we just came out of CO like and
[1:02:28] we're still just came out of CO for some
[1:02:31] of us. Some of us are newer and you know
[1:02:33] other other circumstances, but
[1:02:35] >> some of us will never come out of that
[1:02:36] trauma.
[1:02:37] >> Never some of us are just feeling it
[1:02:39] now. I mean, there's there's so many
[1:02:41] things to consider, but I also want to
[1:02:43] um I economics just in general, a lot of
[1:02:46] people can't afford almost anything now.
[1:02:49] And what if you made that mistake? you
[1:02:51] came and you brought your your, you
[1:02:53] know, your family to Main Street and you
[1:02:55] got that ticket that you really can't
[1:02:57] afford and maybe you just wanted to
[1:03:01] stroll for the day, you know, whatever
[1:03:03] it is with your family and then you get
[1:03:04] that $75 ticket. Is that person able to,
[1:03:07] you know, even come back to fight it?
[1:03:09] You still have to have the means to do
[1:03:11] all of these things. And we want to be a
[1:03:14] place that is for everyone, right? We
[1:03:16] don't want it to just be investors that
[1:03:17] are coming in and taking over our
[1:03:19] village. We want it to be the families,
[1:03:22] the people that are, you know,
[1:03:24] supporting little league and all the
[1:03:26] other things. And a $75 ticket, period,
[1:03:29] as your first ticket does tell anybody
[1:03:32] that we don't want you here. And I just
[1:03:34] hope it's considered.
[1:03:36] >> Can I can I ask a question
[1:03:40] example?
[1:03:41] >> Um,
[1:03:43] how do they how do people know that
[1:03:47] that's the system? Because as the mayor
[1:03:50] noted here, if you get a ticket,
[1:03:55] >> I assume this is the case for most
[1:03:57] places where you would get a ticket, but
[1:03:58] there is a a means to address it and,
[1:04:03] you know, quote unquote fight it.
[1:04:06] >> Appeal.
[1:04:06] Thank you. I want to say fight
[1:04:08] appeal.
[1:04:09] >> Um,
[1:04:09] >> no fighting or try not to fight.
[1:04:12] [laughter] Talk about it in a productive
[1:04:13] way.
[1:04:14] >> Problem solved.
[1:04:16] >> Problems. [laughter]
[1:04:17] Um, and so I guess what I wonder is I'm
[1:04:21] sure there's people who make mistakes.
[1:04:22] I'm not, you know, earlier when I was
[1:04:24] asking, you know, this person who says
[1:04:26] that they get a $75 ticket and they're
[1:04:28] like I I'm sure there's people who make
[1:04:31] mistakes. I'm not arguing that I I'm not
[1:04:34] questioning the goodness of people's
[1:04:36] hearts or minds when they come here. I I
[1:04:38] don't have time for that. But
[1:04:41] what I wonder is
[1:04:43] um
[1:04:45] how does Maine tell not Maine but that
[1:04:49] >> how do people there know that they can
[1:04:53] >> print on the ticket probably
[1:04:54] >> okay so I mean I well that would be kind
[1:04:57] of an interesting thing right so you get
[1:04:58] a ticket if it's not printed on our
[1:05:01] tickets then maybe that's something
[1:05:03] regardless of what the end price is
[1:05:05] going to be
[1:05:06] >> that they know that there is a means to
[1:05:08] address it if they feel that it was, you
[1:05:11] know, they messed up and they don't, you
[1:05:13] know, they're very reasonable here. You
[1:05:16] just go online and you do it. You don't
[1:05:18] have to physically come back to
[1:05:21] >> But people are paying those tickets is
[1:05:23] what I'm saying. So the numbers that
[1:05:25] they're seeing and they have it all. I
[1:05:26] mean, they're really really comparable
[1:05:29] to us. Um, the numbers that they're
[1:05:30] seeing is that those people are just
[1:05:32] paying for it whether they want they
[1:05:34] think it was wrong or not. They're just
[1:05:35] paying it because they would rather not
[1:05:37] pay the gas that they're paying to get
[1:05:39] back to to do whatever it is.
[1:05:40] >> And you think it's because it's
[1:05:42] >> a lower and you're incentivized because
[1:05:45] it because you know that the next day it
[1:05:47] will go up.
[1:05:48] >> So you're like, "Oh, I'm just going to
[1:05:49] do this.
[1:05:50] >> I'm not going to fight it another day to
[1:05:53] go fight this."
[1:05:54] >> No. I mean, I think that's very
[1:05:55] interesting. I just wondered how that
[1:05:56] was articulated. how people know that
[1:05:58] and they don't know that there's an
[1:06:00] opportunity here when they get a ticket
[1:06:02] to
[1:06:03] >> I think people do know I I
[1:06:05] >> they do it does it says right on the
[1:06:07] ticket I mean I don't have I don't have
[1:06:08] one in front of us right now but it does
[1:06:10] say on the ticket to dis how how to
[1:06:12] dispute there's a QR code
[1:06:14] >> the I think we've al we've got a giant
[1:06:17] agenda after this and I very much
[1:06:19] appreciated the conversation we could go
[1:06:20] on all night so I think we found a lot
[1:06:23] of common ground you feel like we've
[1:06:25] found a lot of common ground or some
[1:06:26] common ground anyway I think we found a
[1:06:28] lot of common ground,
[1:06:31] right?
[1:06:31] >> Okay. So, Kate and Kada,
[1:06:35] um, let me know about the 10th. Um, and
[1:06:38] we'll take it from there.
[1:06:41] >> Okay, that sounds great.
[1:06:43] >> Um, okay. Yep. Yep. That's another
[1:06:46] point. Never mind. All good. All good. I
[1:06:50] appreciate you coming in person. I
[1:06:51] appreciate you coming in person and
[1:06:53] hanging out for the whole conversation
[1:06:55] to have a conversation.
[1:06:57] >> [laughter]
[1:06:58] >> have a really good night.
[1:06:59] >> Thank you.
[1:06:59] guys.
[1:07:00] >> Thank you.
[1:07:03] >> Okay.
[1:07:05] >> Um
[1:07:07] so Parsonage Street um we know that
[1:07:09] there is there is failed storm storm
[1:07:12] infrastructure. Good night. Good night.
[1:07:15] on uh Parsonage Street. The property
[1:07:18] lines on Personage Street are a little
[1:07:20] wacky and we have a lot of uh private
[1:07:23] homes
[1:07:25] uh roof roof drainage drainage draining
[1:07:28] into our storm drain. So, we need to
[1:07:30] figure out where the property lines are.
[1:07:32] Um
[1:07:34] there it has been bid out by Han. Good
[1:07:36] night, Matt. Thank you. Thank you for
[1:07:38] staying.
[1:07:39] >> Thank you.
[1:07:39] >> It's bid out by Han. Um
[1:07:42] the although it is the longest. Are you
[1:07:46] trying to say something to me?
[1:07:47] >> No.
[1:07:47] >> Okay.
[1:07:49] I'm trying to find out where we are
[1:07:50] though.
[1:07:52] >> The cheapest the cheapest is the
[1:07:54] cheapest by a lot. By 8,000 bucks. Is
[1:07:57] that right? Yeah. Not 7,000 bucks. Um
[1:08:01] the longer time frame, but much less. Um
[1:08:05] Matt did ask to be on Rowan's schedule
[1:08:09] for surveying um pending the board
[1:08:13] approving the acceptance of that
[1:08:16] discussion.
[1:08:19] This is uh sorry I should say that it is
[1:08:21] for the benefit of the public. It is um
[1:08:25] the first step toward repairs on
[1:08:28] necessary repairs on Parson Street. You
[1:08:31] got it. Yes.
[1:08:34] discussion.
[1:08:38] Like to make a motion.
[1:08:41] >> I make a motion to accept the
[1:08:42] engineers's recommendation
[1:08:45] to accept the bid of row and landing
[1:08:47] PLLC for surveying services for the past
[1:08:51] improvement project for $4,000 with an
[1:08:55] anticipated time frame of six weeks.
[1:08:58] Second. All in favor? I thought I
[1:09:03] holding our spot quickly. It's going to
[1:09:05] be
[1:09:11] um next we are closing out the
[1:09:15] transition of the
[1:09:17] court clerk from the former clerk to the
[1:09:19] current clerk. Um, and Justice
[1:09:25] Hilbert, I wrote Costello, Justice
[1:09:27] Hilbert has let us know that he will not
[1:09:29] belabor all the issues that have had
[1:09:30] getting to the court where it needs to
[1:09:32] be, but frankly
[1:09:34] don't know how, this is what I was
[1:09:36] speaking to earlier. I don't know how
[1:09:37] the court is operating with such
[1:09:38] antiquated systems. The transition has
[1:09:40] been a complete overhaul. So, our ask is
[1:09:43] that um consultant Kathy Costello be
[1:09:46] paid for 23.5 hours that she worked in
[1:09:49] June and she be allocated an additional
[1:09:50] eight hours to finalize training. Court
[1:09:53] is prepared to have that taken from our
[1:09:55] budget. Um Cathy's guidance is more
[1:09:57] important than anything else the court
[1:09:59] need at this time. So, the June, which
[1:10:01] is $50 an hour, the June amount is
[1:10:03] roughly 1,175
[1:10:05] and the eight remaining hours is 400.
[1:10:09] Discussion
[1:10:11] Hearing
[1:10:13] none. Would someone like to make the
[1:10:14] motion? I make
[1:10:17] >> I make a motion to authorize the mayor
[1:10:19] to approve payment consulting Cath
[1:10:21] Gastello for 23 and a half hours worked
[1:10:24] in June and budget for an additional
[1:10:26] eight hours finalized just court clerk
[1:10:30] training at a rate of $50 per hour.
[1:10:34] >> All in favor?
[1:10:37] Okay, next I I will probably rely on
[1:10:40] Marjorie and Andrew a bit. I want to
[1:10:43] thank Andrew for taking the time to to
[1:10:45] dig in. It was
[1:10:48] you were we were close to the edge
[1:10:50] there, but you took the time to dig in
[1:10:51] and ask good questions. Um so the cost
[1:10:56] of all of our liabilities,
[1:11:00] our liability insurance is included
[1:11:03] um in this bid. We have a new layer of
[1:11:07] insurance which is cyber security. Um
[1:11:11] >> it's renewal.
[1:11:13] >> I'm sorry. Renewal I was thinking it was
[1:11:15] new. Thank you. Renewal that is through
[1:11:17] travelers. Um so that number is included
[1:11:21] in the final here. The total amount of
[1:11:23] $132,553.14
[1:11:27] which is due in two component two parts
[1:11:29] two payments. Um, I just want to point
[1:11:33] out that we have nearly $19 million in
[1:11:35] assets that we need to protect between
[1:11:37] our buildings and our equipment,
[1:11:41] our people. Um, so we are this is not a
[1:11:45] small operation.
[1:11:47] >> Um, discussion. Andrew, do you have any
[1:11:49] comments to make from you?
[1:11:52] There there are a few questions that I
[1:11:53] went over with with the um the
[1:11:55] underwriters and um or the brokers and
[1:11:58] um they answered them all
[1:12:00] satisfactorily. Um the one
[1:12:04] the yearto-year difference is an
[1:12:05] increase in premium of about $6,000.
[1:12:07] That's primarily
[1:12:10] and that's um
[1:12:12] as Margie the clerk pointed out is
[1:12:14] partly due to um a rerate an increase um
[1:12:19] rerating the value of the buildings. um
[1:12:21] the 60 cent increase I believe
[1:12:23] >> also you know this is a liability
[1:12:25] general liability insurance and the cost
[1:12:28] of replacing anything as any homeowner
[1:12:30] knows right now the cost of construction
[1:12:33] has gone up astronomically so it's cost
[1:12:36] of materials
[1:12:37] >> and just uh increased value of home so
[1:12:41] it's inflation plus increased cost of of
[1:12:45] material 6%
[1:12:47] >> and that being said the overall price
[1:12:49] has gone up $6,000 So I think that's a
[1:12:51] pretty pretty fair um price to pay
[1:12:55] >> from year to year for the year policy.
[1:12:58] That's right. And you know cyber
[1:12:59] security too that you know overall
[1:13:02] that's included in the big chunk and
[1:13:04] cyber security went up pretty
[1:13:07] significantly you know you know $800 you
[1:13:10] know but
[1:13:12] >> um that's our risks are higher for
[1:13:15] everyone and so cost of insurance is
[1:13:18] >> and that's what I was thinking about
[1:13:19] when I said new I was focusing on
[1:13:22] the recent issues that that we are
[1:13:25] focusing on it's a it's a part of it's a reality on our everyday day life to
[1:13:29] protect our everyday operations to
[1:13:32] protect records and protect functions
[1:13:34] and
[1:13:35] >> frankly it's costs time also
[1:13:38] >> and lots of time
[1:13:39] >> it's lots of time so yeah so
[1:13:42] >> we paid in two pieces pay 50% and
[1:13:44] another 50%
[1:13:47] >> do we have a starting resolution number
[1:13:52] » didn't write it down and I promised I
[1:13:54] would I'm sorry I think it's 34 but
[1:13:57] please let me back. So, sorry I'm
[1:14:00] getting glared at.
[1:14:02] [laughter]
[1:14:07] » You [clears throat] don't know what my
[1:14:08] day was like.
[1:14:11] >> Today, don't worry about it. Should
[1:14:12] Would you like us to work with 34? How
[1:14:15] would you like us to handle it?
[1:14:16] >> I I think you should put it in
[1:14:18] >> as 34.
[1:14:19] >> No, I think you should say tentatively
[1:14:21] 34.
[1:14:23] >> I will renumber them.
[1:14:25] >> I'm sorry. Don't look at Mar.
[1:14:30] » Okay. So, would someone like to move
[1:14:32] tentative resolution tentative
[1:14:35] resolution 34?
[1:14:36] >> 34. Is that what you said?
[1:14:38] >> I think 34.
[1:14:40] >> I could be wrong. We have to read it for
[1:14:41] the record.
[1:14:42] >> Yes, we do.
[1:14:42] >> Okay.
[1:14:44] Resolution number tentatively 34-2026
[1:14:48] village of Cold Spring Board of Trustees
[1:14:50] approving the renewal of general
[1:14:53] ability insurance. The following
[1:14:55] resolution was offered by myself for
[1:14:58] adoption in second 5B
[1:15:00] by the mayor to whereas the village of
[1:15:03] Cold Springs general liability insurance
[1:15:05] policies are due to renew on August 1st,
[1:15:07] 2026. And whereas the village has
[1:15:09] received a renewal proposal from the New
[1:15:11] York Municipal Insurance Reciprocal
[1:15:14] in the amount of $128,200
[1:15:18] and 200 128,21.14
[1:15:23] has received a cyber security liability
[1:15:27] renewal proposal from travelers in the
[1:15:29] amount of $4,352.
[1:15:32] And whereas the total premium of the
[1:15:34] package of insurance renewals is
[1:15:36] $132,553.14
[1:15:40] the period of August 1st 2026 through
[1:15:42] August 1st 2027.
[1:15:44] Now therefore, it is hereby resolved that
[1:15:48] the village of Cold Spring renews the
[1:15:50] general liability insurance policy
[1:15:51] through the New York Municipal Insurance
[1:15:53] Reciprocal and be further resolved that
[1:15:55] the village clerk treasurer is
[1:15:57] authorized and instructed to execute the
[1:15:59] plans documents on behalf of the village
[1:16:00] of Cold Spring. On a roll call. Can I
[1:16:04] make a slight amendment to the
[1:16:05] resolution that the village of Cold
[1:16:08] Spring renews the general liability
[1:16:09] insurance policy through New York
[1:16:11] municipal insurance reciprocal and
[1:16:15] travelers.
[1:16:17] We're purchasing our cyber insurance. So
[1:16:21] >> there is a paragraph that the second
[1:16:23] paragraph and has received
[1:16:25] >> renewal proposal
[1:16:26] >> a renewal proposal for travelers in the
[1:16:28] amount of 4,000. Is that not
[1:16:30] >> I think it's just in the resolved
[1:16:31] section.
[1:16:32] >> Oh, in the resolve part section.
[1:16:34] >> Okay. And I got it. Got it.
[1:16:38] >> Is that amendable to the mover?
[1:16:43] » I I am the second and I am amendable.
[1:16:46] That so um it's a roll call vote.
[1:16:49] >> May I ask a question for understand this
[1:16:51] is do we pay twice a year?
[1:16:53] >> Yes.
[1:16:53] >> Okay.
[1:16:55] And we pay there's another invoice that
[1:16:58] just came in today that wasn't in the
[1:16:59] packet or travel. We pay travelers
[1:17:02] directly. So that's $4,300.
[1:17:06] >> That's paid off$52 and that's separate.
[1:17:08] So that's
[1:17:09] >> two times that.
[1:17:12] >> Thank you.
[1:17:15] >> Okay. So it's a roll call.
[1:17:17] >> Trusty Bis is absent.
[1:17:20] Trusty Boosezie.
[1:17:22] Trusty Hall.
[1:17:23] >> Yes. Trusty Woods.
[1:17:25] >> Hi.
[1:17:26] >> And Mayor Foley.
[1:17:27] >> Hi.
[1:17:30] >> Resolution is adopted. 4001.
[1:17:34] » And the next item, I am delighted that
[1:17:39] the tree advisory board. There were four
[1:17:41] um resignations starting with Tony and
[1:17:44] then three others. Um people who have
[1:17:47] served a really long time and deserve
[1:17:49] some some time off from that volunteer
[1:17:51] position. and we've had really excellent
[1:17:53] candidates. So, um the acting the
[1:17:56] interim chair Taro Ayataka has
[1:17:59] recommended Jane Demick um and Kathy
[1:18:02] Carnival to sit on the tree advisory
[1:18:04] board discussion
[1:18:07] and then this new this newly excuse me
[1:18:09] this newly constituted group will make a
[1:18:12] recommendation for chair and we appoint
[1:18:14] the chair.
[1:18:18] Can we collapse this into a single?
[1:18:21] >> Do we know the term end date?
[1:18:23] >> Oh, yes. There's two different
[1:18:24] >> Oh, you're right. There two different
[1:18:25] terms. That's why. Okay. So, I make a
[1:18:28] motion to accept the recommendation of
[1:18:29] interim tree advisory board chair
[1:18:32] Ayataka to appoint village resident Jane
[1:18:34] Demick to a seat on the board for a term
[1:18:36] ending 12 2026.
[1:18:38] >> Second.
[1:18:40] >> Okay. And I make a motion to accept the
[1:18:42] recommendation of interim tree advisory
[1:18:43] board chair Tero Ayataka. He's really
[1:18:46] insistent on the interim part is interim there
[1:18:50] >> to appoint village resident Katherryn
[1:18:52] Carnival to sit on the board for a term
[1:18:54] ending 12 2027.
[1:18:57] >> All in favor?
[1:18:58] >> I
[1:19:00] just for the record it's 121 20.
[1:19:06] >> It's the day it's the day that the
[1:19:07] village legal year starts the day of our
[1:19:11] reorg.
[1:19:12] Okay. Um,
[1:19:15] sad lady,
[1:19:17] we have four proposed to accept the
[1:19:19] resignation of Abigail McKini. Um,
[1:19:23] Abigail did a fantastic job while she
[1:19:26] was here. We knew that we wouldn't have
[1:19:27] her forever, that she would go off and
[1:19:29] do other fantastic things. She was
[1:19:32] headed back to grad school. Um, so just
[1:19:35] give you a bit of this. We're concerned
[1:19:39] that this is we're going into a time
[1:19:42] there are a number of large applications
[1:19:44] coming in. It's been quiet for a while
[1:19:45] now. We have a few large applications
[1:19:47] coming in. So, while we um search for a
[1:19:53] permanent replacement, the former board
[1:19:55] secretary Karen Herbert is amendable to
[1:19:57] coming in and helping us through that
[1:19:59] busy time. So between the coverage of
[1:20:02] Marjorie and
[1:20:04] Delana and Karen, we'll we'll get we'll
[1:20:08] get through somehow, but we need this to
[1:20:10] turn around quickly because it is a
[1:20:12] that's a big chunk of the daily work.
[1:20:15] >> So
[1:20:17] >> and and a lot of night work. Marjorie,
[1:20:19] you know, now doing us. She did zoning
[1:20:21] board last night. Next week she's got
[1:20:25] planning. Yeah.
[1:20:26] >> Too much for one person if you want.
[1:20:29] creativity. [laughter]
[1:20:36] » Abigail,
[1:20:38] >> uh, I make a motion to, uh, accept the
[1:20:40] resignation of village of Cold Spring,
[1:20:43] Abigail Henny from her position as
[1:20:44] secretary to the signing board effective
[1:20:46] Friday, August the 7th, 2026, and
[1:20:49] authorize the advertise advertisement advertisement of the open
[1:20:54] position.
[1:20:56] Second, all in favor? Hi.
[1:21:03] » Um, and just the secretary to the zoning
[1:21:05] board that is her that is the title
[1:21:07] under civil service.
[1:21:09] >> Um, okay. The moment that you have been
[1:21:14] waiting for.
[1:21:15] >> Yeah.
[1:21:16] >> Event coordinator.
[1:21:18] We have before us the
[1:21:22] proposal from the chamber to host the
[1:21:25] Halloween parade between the hours of 4
[1:21:27] and 7:30 on October 24th.
[1:21:30] Um,
[1:21:32] a bit of conversation about this post
[1:21:34] meeting the other day.
[1:21:36] Um, the the chamber has traditionally
[1:21:39] gathered on St. Mary's lawn but not
[1:21:42] asked. Um, and I
[1:21:45] >> pretty sure I told them they had.
[1:21:47] >> So that's what I was making sure that
[1:21:50] they did. And I don't know when St.
[1:21:53] Mary's will be ready with their
[1:21:54] applications, but I know that this is on
[1:21:56] the St. Mary's radar.
[1:21:58] This may evolve as St. Mary's evolves
[1:22:00] its practices. So we what we are being
[1:22:02] asked to approve tonight is not what is
[1:22:04] on the lawn, but the actual parade,
[1:22:06] which we have budgeted for in terms of
[1:22:08] public safety discussion.
[1:22:13] Okay, I'd like to make a motion. I make
[1:22:16] a motion to approve Cole Spring Chamber
[1:22:18] of Commerce application to host the
[1:22:21] annual Halloween parade between the
[1:22:23] hours of 4 and 7:30,
[1:22:25] October 24th, 2026.
[1:22:30] » You want to read the rest or is that
[1:22:32] part? Well, I guess
[1:22:35] yeah from St. Mary's bond route 9D and
[1:22:38] Main Street to stand second. All in
[1:22:42] favor?
[1:22:44] >> I saw Halloween items in the store this
[1:22:48] weekend.
[1:22:49] >> Please let us have the rest of our
[1:22:51] summer.
[1:22:53] >> Okay. Um,
[1:22:55] next is an approval. So, this this is
[1:22:57] the annual Church Street block party,
[1:22:59] which is super fun.
[1:23:04] They always do it on the Sunday of Labor
[1:23:07] Day weekend. Block the whole block. I
[1:23:09] did have Lilian and I both had
[1:23:11] conversations with the officer in charge
[1:23:13] about some of his concerns about the
[1:23:15] event. Um the the challenge in the last
[1:23:18] couple of years has not been people
[1:23:21] coming onto the street. It's people
[1:23:23] driving their cars on residents on
[1:23:26] Church Street driving their cars on the
[1:23:28] street. So what he has asked for two
[1:23:31] things. He's put used cones in the past.
[1:23:33] This year he's going to use barriers.
[1:23:36] Um and he asks
[1:23:38] Lillian through you that the um the
[1:23:42] organizers on Church Street
[1:23:46] create a documentation. You mean a P
[1:23:49] door to door something so that everybody
[1:23:51] knows when the street is closed that's
[1:23:52] closed for you park ahead of time out.
[1:23:54] >> Email was sent to Joe Jody. You've
[1:23:58] already done it. um asking her to do
[1:24:00] that and also asking her to reach out to
[1:24:03] the residents of Main Street who parked
[1:24:06] in that back parking lot behind the old
[1:24:08] CE.
[1:24:09] >> Yeah.
[1:24:09] >> Um because I know through experience
[1:24:12] with the fire company
[1:24:13] >> that they sometimes get forgotten about.
[1:24:16] >> Okay, great.
[1:24:16] >> So Jody has not responded back to me,
[1:24:19] but you know.
[1:24:20] >> Well, so so permission granted pending
[1:24:23] confirmation of communication would be
[1:24:25] my proposal.
[1:24:29] Um,
[1:24:30] so, uh, I make a motion to approve the
[1:24:33] request submitted by Jody Curly Egan on
[1:24:35] behalf of the residents of Church Street
[1:24:36] to close Church Street on Sunday,
[1:24:38] September 6th, 2026, 12:00 noon through
[1:24:41] the evening hours for the neighborhood's
[1:24:42] annual block party pending confirmation
[1:24:45] of communication regarding
[1:24:49] parking for Church Street residents
[1:24:50] themselves and Main Street residents who
[1:24:53] park at Church.
[1:24:54] >> Second. All in favor?
[1:24:58] And another thing. Okay,
[1:25:01] next. Um,
[1:25:04] Mary Malakus painted our tunnel the
[1:25:07] first time in June 2023. Actually, it
[1:25:11] was July 2023 during the storm that she
[1:25:14] was finishing. She painted it once as a
[1:25:17] donation. She repaired it after the um
[1:25:21] after the floods as a donation. She has
[1:25:24] now repainted it a third time post the
[1:25:28] construction to repair the tunnel and
[1:25:30] she's a working artist. We need to pay
[1:25:33] her. Um so she she has build us for her
[1:25:35] time. The project is complete. It looks
[1:25:37] fantastic. $3,600.
[1:25:40] Um and this will come as out of the
[1:25:42] general village improvement fund.
[1:25:44] Welcome.
[1:25:48] Good. Someone like to make a motion?
[1:25:53] I make a motion. No, go ahead. Uh, we
[1:25:55] approve the payment to artist Mary
[1:25:57] Molakis for the pedestrian tunnel mural
[1:26:01] repairs of $3,600.
[1:26:04] >> Second. All in favor?
[1:26:06] >> I I
[1:26:08] Okay,
[1:26:10] now on to the schedule. So, I tried to
[1:26:13] make this simple. There are a couple of
[1:26:15] typos that we caught after it went out
[1:26:17] to you, but from our discussion in our
[1:26:20] last meeting,
[1:26:22] um Michelle was on vacation that week,
[1:26:23] so there were a couple of there were
[1:26:24] some things that she caught. So, um Oh,
[1:26:28] you know what I didn't bring? I printed
[1:26:29] out the resolution from John and I
[1:26:32] didn't bring it. Do you have it? You
[1:26:33] have it? Put it in.
[1:26:36] >> You can make a motion. Okay.
[1:26:38] >> It is 35. I didck the number. So the
[1:26:41] last one was definitely 34 and list 35.
[1:26:45] >> So just to talk you through what's
[1:26:46] changed since the last time. Um
[1:26:48] everything that's highlighted in bright
[1:26:49] yellow are changes. Um Ann pulled up
[1:26:53] genealogy research. Um we did do some
[1:26:57] research on the motor vehicle incident
[1:26:58] and accident report with the DMV. So $25
[1:27:01] is um for that. We made the correction
[1:27:05] on the off streetet parking waiver. It
[1:27:07] now says 1,000 per space.
[1:27:10] Somehow I missed the transcription of
[1:27:13] pools, hot tubs, and spas. I don't know
[1:27:14] how that happened, but now it's in
[1:27:17] buildings, standing board reviews. Um
[1:27:22] Michelle, and I agree with her, thought
[1:27:23] we should clarify that HDRB is escro fee
[1:27:26] for public hearings only.
[1:27:28] Um,
[1:27:30] and her recommendation in looking at
[1:27:32] these escros was that
[1:27:36] as costs have increased per hour of
[1:27:38] attorney time, $1,000 isn't enough for
[1:27:41] most applications. Um, so she
[1:27:45] recommended that we bump to 2500.
[1:27:47] Um, where we have left it low,
[1:27:51] where I am proposing that it is left low
[1:27:53] is under tree advisory board. Um, it's
[1:27:56] very rare that babies give a little
[1:27:58] turning. There have been um there have
[1:28:02] been one
[1:28:03] >> What page are you?
[1:28:04] >> I'm on page four. I'm sorry that I'm not
[1:28:06] I'm just blathering on. I've looked at
[1:28:07] this things.
[1:28:09] >> Yeah.
[1:28:09] >> Um the tree advisory board used the
[1:28:12] village attorney once last year for a
[1:28:15] take down application where there was uh
[1:28:17] friction between neighbors. So, it's not
[1:28:20] as often and it was a a quick
[1:28:22] consultation. So my proposal is 500 for
[1:28:25] their escrow when needed on a case- by
[1:28:28] case basis.
[1:28:30] Um
[1:28:33] they'll also helped clean up some
[1:28:35] language related to water and waste.
[1:28:37] Remember we were talking about
[1:28:40] there being people who refuse meters
[1:28:42] versus people who have meters that can't
[1:28:45] be accessed to read and need a manual
[1:28:47] read.
[1:28:49] Um so her recommended language was
[1:28:52] quarterly manual read accessible meter
[1:28:56] and it shouldn't should just say just one rate not in village out the
[1:28:59] village
[1:29:02] that needs to be modified and then
[1:29:04] quarterly penalty for inaccessible
[1:29:06] slashoutdated
[1:29:08] and on those like some of them are
[1:29:11] literally built behind walls
[1:29:13] etc. there w there is an opportunity for
[1:29:16] people to expose them again. Um though
[1:29:19] her recommendation was that as an
[1:29:20] incentive we note that
[1:29:24] um there will be a prorated correction
[1:29:27] once they corre once they fix the the
[1:29:31] accessibility.
[1:29:32] >> How far back does the go?
[1:29:38] It would be that year.
[1:29:46] » It's not like it's one year.
[1:29:50] >> Oh, no. Just like when you when you buy
[1:29:51] a house and you close out.
[1:29:54] >> Oh, this is But okay, go ahead. Maybe.
[1:29:59] So, so this charge we have to go and do
[1:30:02] a manual read at this house because
[1:30:06] either they have intentionally or they
[1:30:08] bought a house that somebody blocked
[1:30:10] access to the yeah
[1:30:12] >> to the meter. So, uh we this is a this
[1:30:16] to incentivize people to move forward
[1:30:19] and get them accessible to us. We charge
[1:30:21] a fee for our guys to to go to those
[1:30:23] houses and do a manual read. Her
[1:30:26] suggestion is that is that in that year
[1:30:28] just like as you when you buy a house
[1:30:31] you prorrate your quarter what you owe
[1:30:35] the buyer and the seller make an
[1:30:36] exchange of of money. Her suggestion was
[1:30:39] that happened for that year
[1:30:43] in a in a prorating transaction. Sounds
[1:30:45] like it needs to say for that year
[1:30:48] fiscal year.
[1:30:50] I think I read it as as for however many
[1:30:54] years they've been paying the quarterly
[1:30:56] penalty. That is not what's intended.
[1:30:59] So, let's fix that language.
[1:31:03] » Um, usage per rated for that for current
[1:31:07] fiscal year.
[1:31:13] » Okay, that's that's Yep. Thank you. Good
[1:31:15] catch. That makes more sense.
[1:31:27] modifications in water, waste water.
[1:31:29] That's it. We do I have started an
[1:31:33] inquiry with um John first and and will
[1:31:37] Angelo about how what changes we need to
[1:31:39] make in the code to set appropriately
[1:31:44] set um
[1:31:46] font performance fonts and
[1:31:49] calculation that's not determined by the
[1:31:51] crew chief all by himself.
[1:31:53] >> So that is that will be we'll return to
[1:31:55] that.
[1:31:57] >> So
[1:32:00] the resolution then would be as amended
[1:32:02] in session.
[1:32:03] >> Yeah.
[1:32:03] >> Okay.
[1:32:05] >> Uh resolution number had anything right?
[1:32:10] >> Um resolution number 35 2026 updating
[1:32:13] and amending the fee schedule. The
[1:32:15] following resolution was offered by
[1:32:17] Trusty Bozy for adoption and seconded by
[1:32:20] second
[1:32:20] >> trusty Woods. Uh whereas the village of
[1:32:22] Cold Spring previously adopted a fee
[1:32:25] schedule for the village whereas the
[1:32:26] village of Cold Spring fee schedule does
[1:32:28] support the fees associated with various
[1:32:29] village services and fines and
[1:32:31] connection with enforcement actions. And
[1:32:34] whereas the board of trustees announced
[1:32:36] a meeting on July 22nd, 2026 to present
[1:32:39] a draft of the updated P village P
[1:32:41] schedule. Whereas the updated and
[1:32:44] amended village of Colbury PE schedule
[1:32:46] um here directly A as amended in
[1:32:51] session.
[1:32:52] Um and is hereby resolved that the
[1:32:55] village of culturing fee schedule uh
[1:32:58] attached as exhibit A is adopted and the
[1:33:00] fees and fines listed therein are
[1:33:02] effective the date of this resolution.
[1:33:05] >> Second all in favor
[1:33:14] » trusty Bis is absent and trusty Boozie
[1:33:18] >> hi Paul.
[1:33:20] >> Hi
[1:33:21] >> Trusty Woods. Hi.
[1:33:29] » Thank you.
[1:33:30] >> The fee schedule is officially adopted
[1:33:33] by vote of course
[1:33:36] final version tomorrow.
[1:33:38] >> Uh no Monday. Okay. Um bills. Who's got
[1:33:42] the bills?
[1:33:48] I can go grab the
[1:33:50] >> number
[1:33:52] on the agenda with the correct amount.
[1:33:55] >> Who's saying it?
[1:33:56] >> I don't mean go get
[1:33:57] >> I make a motion to approve bill badge
[1:34:00] number 8576
[1:34:02] now to 221,26.36.
[1:34:07] Second favor.
[1:34:09] >> I anything notable on that batch?
[1:34:12] >> Insurance
[1:34:18] motion to adjurnn.
[1:34:20] >> All in favor?
[1:34:21] >> I
[1:34:25] thank you everybody.