[6:51] Call to order. Please stand for the
pledge of allegiance.
[6:58] I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to theublic
[7:30] On item four, approve agenda.
Any changes, questions?
[7:38] » Seeing none, motion.
>> I move to approve.
[7:42] » Second.
>> Roll call.
[7:44] » Commissioner Kern.
>> Yes.
[7:45] » Commissioner Trujillo.
>> Yes.
[7:47] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes.
[7:49] Line item five, approve regular meeting
minutes from August 25th, 2026.
[7:57] Any changes, commissioners?
>> Seeing none, motion.
[8:03] » Move to approve.
>> Second.
[8:05] » Roll call.
>> Yes.
[8:07] » Commissioner Truill.
>> Yes.
[8:09] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes. Line item six. Recognize visitors
[8:14] online. We have Hina Giggles.
Cynthia Trillo, IT administrator.
[8:24] Reetta Trillo, chief deputy clerk.
[8:29] » Oh, Eric Ballser, Vica subdivision.
>> Dora Ballser, Eric's daughter.
[8:43] Alonso Ortiz, Koffax County Treasurer.
[8:49] Lesley Fernandez,
Red Tone Pickle Ball Club.
[8:57] » Annie Brown, finance coordinator,
manager's office.
[9:01] » Julie Martinez, manager's office.
>> Michael Mise, manager's office.
[9:08] » Scott Week with field survey. And item
number 11,
[9:13] » Joseph Martinez, chief deputy assessor.
[9:19] Art San Roman rat pickle ball.
Valerie Sakora, Rat Pickle Ball.
[9:29] » Heidi Brisco, Road Department.
>> Roger Smith, Kfax Gazette.
[9:38] » Thank you for being here with us today.
Line item seven, public comments. for
[9:44] anything that is not on the agenda
limited to three minutes.
[9:55] Seeing none, we'll move on. Blind item
eight discussion act discussion action
[10:01] approve
August 2026 expenditures.
[10:09] Commissioners, any questions?
>> I have none.
[10:14] I have none either. Seeing none, motion.
>> Move to approve.
[10:18] » Second.
>> Roll call.
[10:21] » Commissioner Kern.
>> Yes.
[10:22] » Commissioner Truhill.
>> Yes.
[10:24] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes. Line item nine. Discussion action.
[10:28] Resolution number 2026-71.
[10:34] Budget adjustments.
>> Good morning, commissioners. Um, we had
[10:39] one budget adjustment for Filmont.
um increase for their radios. They're
[10:45] upgrading all their radios in their
trucks and their handhelds. And they are
[10:50] also going to um purchase a new
inventory for their fire department to
[10:56] keep track of all their assets.
>> Oh, okay. A computer. Yeah.
[11:01] » Software.
>> It's a It's a software. It's a new
[11:03] software.
>> Okay.
[11:05] » Which I hope every department
adopts stuff.
[11:10] » Okay.
I hope they all adopt the same software.
[11:15] » Yes,
>> because if not, it's going to be an
[11:17] issue tracking.
[11:21] » No questions.
>> Okay,
[11:23] » questions.
>> No questions. Motion.
[11:26] » Move to approve resolution 202671.
>> Second.
[11:31] » Roll call.
>> Commissioner Karn.
[11:33] » Yes.
>> Commissioner Trufio.
[11:34] » Yes.
>> Chairman Tatum.
[11:36] » Yes. you might go ahead and send that
out, which one it is, to all the fire
[11:40] departments and the cost related to it.
Okay, if you would please, ma'am.
[11:45] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh, line item 10,
[11:49] discussion, action. Raton Pickle Ball
Club request for approval to use KFax
[11:56] County Event Center on available dates.
[12:05] Hello commission. I'm Lesie Fernandez.
We have Bal Sakora and Art San Roman
[12:11] also just recently off the court this
morning uh to come and ask your
[12:17] permission to continue our winter use of
the event center uh for our pickle ball
[12:26] club. The county has graciously uh been
involved in this for I think four years
[12:33] since the city
um pulled their venue out from under our
[12:39] feet. Uh the county filled a need that
we really had and um both the commission
[12:47] and Fred Martinez with the maintenance
uh were have been wonderful the last
[12:53] several years. As you know, the
bathrooms were being redone and so we
[12:59] couldn't be in there for a while and
then with the uh lack of snow and cold
[13:06] weather last winter, our club really
didn't need to be in uh the event
[13:11] center. We played outside. We have
outdoor courts up at the tennis at the
[13:17] tennis complex at the high school.
This year, we're asking uh for your
[13:23] permission to once again use the indoor
venue uh on days where it's not
[13:30] previously booked for events.
In the past, we've had great
[13:35] communication with maintenance as to
what those events were and when they
[13:43] were, and we clear our u equipment out,
and we're very glad to clean the floor,
[13:50] do whatever we need to do uh for that
event or for the maintenance people. Mr.
[13:57] Munice has contacted uh Val Sakura uh
about [clears throat] perhaps being able
[14:04] to do this again uh this winter and we
we believe we're actually good stewards
[14:11] for the building. Um we're there every
day that we can be every morning from
[14:17] about 7:30 to 10 max. Um, in the past
we've found uh frozen pipes uh for the
[14:26] bathroom and and let the county know. Uh
we've found the door open, let the
[14:31] county know. So we feel that we and and
we also clean. Uh so we feel that we are
[14:38] a benefit a little bit to the county. Uh
not nearly as much as you guys are a
[14:43] benefit to us. Uh so we are we're a club
of about oh probably 125 people. Um but
[14:53] we would have anywhere between
uh 4 and 12 on any given morning.
[15:00] Uh we thank you guys whatever your
decision is. Uh but we would ask uh for
[15:06] that permission and I'm certainly open
to any questions and I urge anybody with
[15:13] the county who's interested in coming
and trying this sport especially old
[15:18] softball players
uh that might be interested or softball
[15:23] umpires
um to to come join us or just if you
[15:28] want to see what you guys are providing,
what the county is providing uh for a
[15:33] group of local uh residents, county
residents, and believe me, it's a it's a
[15:39] huge boon for us um because we love what
we do and you guys make it possible in
[15:45] the winter.
>> Okay. Thank you, commissioners.
[15:50] Question.
>> Thank you, Mr. Fernandez. Um I I don't
[15:55] have a problem with it. I think it's
great and um I think that's what the
[15:59] event center is for is to support our
communities. Um, I believe we had an
[16:04] agreement of some sort last time, didn't
we, Leslie? Or
[16:08] » something about new people.
>> I think we did. Yeah.
[16:11] » Uh, Mr. Garnet, I'm not sure.
>> Not sure I have copied that anywhere.
[16:19] It was with
not even sure which which manager it was
[16:25] with.
>> I think it was with me. [laughter]
[16:28] » It might have been with me when I was
there. I I believe that's
[16:33] » absolutely no problem.
[16:37] » Yeah, that that would be my only thing.
[16:42] » Each person.
>> Yes,
[16:44] » we brought them up here. It may have
been
[16:49] I will do a waiver of liability for
everyone who
[16:55] just
>> that would be my only my only concern
[17:00] and request
>> for you or do you want an actual written
[17:05] email about
[17:08] » if we could find the old agreement um
you know I think that would be good but
[17:14] definitely the liability releases and I
totally support it.
[17:18] » You bet.
>> Commissioner Trill,
[17:22] » I have no issues with pickle ball using
>> Yeah, like they've been good stewards
[17:25] and it's good to have people in and out
of the building.
[17:27] » Yeah, I remember
been a while, but something about y'all
[17:32] advertised and welcomed new members
throughout the county or something and
[17:37] included them. And I remember the
waiver, but I don't remember the
[17:42] agreement. I I think we had one.
>> We did.
[17:46] » What I recall it was pretty simple.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[17:51] » Others from the county come come play.
>> Of course. Simone had talked about
[17:56] getting that
Springer hasn't. Um and we have people
[18:01] like me uh that live in the county uh
that that come in. There's several of
[18:06] us. So it's used by by your
constituents.
[18:12] » Thank you.
>> Thank you. Yeah. I know Angel Fire has
[18:15] one then.
>> Angel Fire has several courts. Simone's
[18:18] putting one in and Maxwell's putting one
in the skull new build.
[18:24] » That's cool. Yeah. All right.
No further discussion. Motion.
[18:32] » Um I would move to approve
the use of the event center for Rat
[18:38] Pickle Ball Club. um signing the
previous agreement and with liability
[18:43] releases.
>> I'll second.
[18:47] » Well, roll call.
>> Commissioner Kern,
[18:50] » yes.
>> Commissioner True,
[18:51] » yes.
>> Chairman Tatum,
[18:53] » yes.
>> Line item 11, discussion, claim of
[18:57] exemption number 11, Lucas
Papernick.
[19:06] » Uh, good morning. Um, this exemption has
been reviewed and approved by the county
[19:10] attorney and Scott Whis is also present
for any questions.
[19:15] This one's only for discussion.
>> Commissioners,
[19:20] » and Mr. Chairman,
>> I'm sorry. Uh, excuse real quick, Mr.
[19:24] Chairman. Uh just one thing on this uh
and that is uh and I when we were
[19:29] discussing it uh and that is that on the
description it says uh at one place it
[19:37] says various in terms of part of the
legal description that just need will
[19:41] need to be filled in before it gets
filed with the clerk's office
[19:45] with the specifics.
[19:50] » That's all. Daniel, that was one of my
questions also. I believe on the
[19:54] application under sections it says
multiple. Are you referring the same
[19:58] thing?
>> Yeah, that's that's what I was referring
[20:00] to.
>> Yes. Okay. Yeah, I would like that to be
[20:03] filled in to whatever sections are are
in being affected. Other than that, I
[20:08] don't have a problem with it.
[20:12] And then uh I noticed on there the
person who signed the the notoriization
[20:18] part of it is not actually the person
who's doing the or the name on the first
[20:24] page. If you look to page five,
I don't know if that there's a separate
[20:31] power of attorney or or something like
that.
[20:42] I'm looking at that.
Are you talking about Heather
[20:46] Mononttoya?
Is that one or
[20:50] » it's Lucas? What whatever his name is.
And if you go to the notary page, it's
[20:55] not Lucas who's who attested to it.
[21:02] It's somebody else.
and I'm pulling it up.
[21:08] » Yeah, if you could. Unfortunately, the
we don't have page numbers, so I'm I'm
[21:12] I'm trying to find which page you're
talking about.
[21:17] » The notary page.
[21:28] » Yeah,
that's the page. So, Gary J. Goffin is
[21:34] the one who attested to the notary.
Is that
[21:40] » Yeah. in Santa Fe. But
>> yeah, so Jerry Gay Goffin would be the
[21:44] person who signed up above that
signature right there just above the
[21:48] word Santa Fe.
>> But isn't this a claim of exemption for
[21:54] Lucas,
however you say the last name?
[21:59] Pepper.
>> Pepper.
[22:04] » So, shouldn't Shouldn't Lucas Pepper be
attesting to this document?
[22:14] That's a really good catch. And uh
I should have flipped back up and I
[22:20] apologize for that.
You are correct.
[22:28] Yeah. So Julie, Julie, we just need to
work with them to make sure first of all
[22:32] like said uh fix the various but then
the other thing is uh or multiple the
[22:37] multiple on the sections but then also
um make sure that we've got the right
[22:43] person swearing find out who Gary Coffin
is why Gary Coffin was the one signing
[22:48] or whether or not it should be Lucas
Peppa signing
[22:53] » or some kind of power of attorney.
Right.
[22:55] » Yeah.
[23:01] That's the only discussion I had.
[23:07] » Anything further next?
Uh, pending corrections. Well,
[23:15] I'm confused here on this because this
process
[23:21] is um
I I I've gone through your subdivision
[23:27] manual here and there's nowhere in here
it says it defines what a subdivision is
[23:34] and then there's these
certain ones that are not
[23:39] subdivision does not include in the list
13 items and this is a number 11.
[23:47] And then you go all the way down till
you're in 7.6 which is the exception
[23:51] rule and it says approval required.
It tells you you have to get approved to
[23:58] do a subdivision in the county
but then you have to either go through
[24:03] the subdivision rules.
>> You need to speak into the mic.
[24:09] So you define what subdivision is and
I'm doing the number 11.
[24:16] That's one of those in under subdivision
it says subdivision do not include and
[24:21] you line out 13 things.
And you go down to 7.6 and it says
[24:26] exceptions approval required. It's
unlawful for any person to buy land in
[24:31] the county weather meteor whatever. But
then there's two items A or B. A if you
[24:37] go through all the subdivisions or B
file and obtain approval exception
[24:42] defined as in 2M before and then 1 7 8 9
12 13 then right after that the
[24:53] definitions provision defined on these
other ones which number 11 are not
[24:58] required under these regulations. So why
are we if I'm I'm questioning why it has
[25:03] to come to the board to be reviewed,
looked over, discussed when it doesn't
[25:08] have to be approved.
And there's no other place in the total
[25:13] ordinance
that even tells you you have to file
[25:16] this.
[25:20] So
I mean I'm trying to I'm a surveyor.
[25:25] Sorry. Scott We shield survey. I'm the
one that did this survey
[25:30] and in the past the prior ordinance
everything had to come to the county and
[25:35] then when Miss Karns was county manager
they went through and they said certain
[25:40] ones didn't have to be approved as it
shows
[25:45] when I deal with other county like
Charles County they have a planning and
[25:48] zoning officer you go to him he looks at
it approves it sign it record it and
[25:54] done same way in San Miguel
So my question to you then why is this
[26:01] one why was this one put on the agenda?
[26:06] » So sir what you will what you will see
is that this was put on the agenda for
[26:09] discussion only not for action.
>> So you do read the ordinance correctly.
[26:14] This does not require the approval of
the commission. However the commission
[26:17] has requested to review all claims of
exemption that go through. So therefore
[26:21] this is up for discussion only today.
But it's not on your there's nothing in
[26:26] the law. Everything has to become for
the commission. It's not in the shed.
[26:30] There's an ordinance that I'm following.
>> I understand that. There's I mean it's
[26:35] it's it's strictly permissive that it
that it comes before the commission for
[26:39] discussion.
>> No,
[26:42] » we could discuss anything we would like
you want, but I'm saying if it doesn't
[26:46] need approval, there's no reason for it
to become the board. it on here as a
[26:52] discussion only
>> and but it doesn't it doesn't really
[26:57] need your signature. It doesn't need
approval.
[27:00] » Correct.
[27:04] » I'll let Daniel answer that.
>> Yeah. It I mean it doesn't it doesn't
[27:07] require the commission approval,
>> right? So you correct
[27:12] » or anything else.
>> You're you're correct on that, sir.
[27:15] However, again, the as a matter of
internal
[27:19] uh SOP
uh the commission's request to see all
[27:23] of these
uh before they get recorded in the
[27:28] clerk's office. And frankly, today is a
really good example of the reason why,
[27:31] right? Is that is that first of all, we
we do have an issue with the with the
[27:36] legal description on this one uh where
it is defective and would not be it
[27:41] would be rejected by the county clerk's
office if you if it was attempted to be
[27:45] recorded.
And uh
[27:48] » the legal description the legal
description is on the plat.
[27:51] » I I understand that sir.
>> On that one little line.
[27:56] » I I understand that sir. That's this is
part of the claim of exemption. You're
[27:59] talking about the claim of exemption.
You're not talking about the plat at the
[28:01] moment. You're talking about the claim
of exemption. Then the second thing is
[28:05] that that there is a uh a legitimate
question that came up in terms of why it
[28:09] is that Gary Coffin was the one who
attested.
[28:16] And so and so Ms. Martinez and I will
follow up on that uh and uh and and take
[28:23] a look at that and you know frankly the
the additional set of eyes uh is helpful
[28:27] in this process.
[28:32] I'm just I guess what I'm why I'm asking
questioning because the ordinances are
[28:36] not clear and they need to be updated
and corrected so that because you look
[28:41] at other county or Union County it says
all things have to come to the
[28:45] commission all subdivision.
This one does not.
[28:51] It's very vague.
>> I I do agree with you sir that we should
[28:55] probably update do do another review and
update that uh that ordinance. Uh and
[29:00] that is that is a project that I think
uh Miss Martinez and I have identified
[29:05] as something to work on. Uh you are
correct. But in the meantime, until it
[29:09] is updated, like I said, this is the
standard operating procedure that has
[29:12] been uh selected by the county.
>> Well, I I just
[29:20] Okay. I I disagree.
But
[29:26] as for the signature, that's the lawyer
for Mr. Papernac.
[29:31] That's what I signed. He did. He filled
out the forms. He signed it. Adam,
[29:36] I don't know if it has to be the person
owning the land. It doesn't say has to
[29:39] be the land owner.
It has to be signed. I signed the last
[29:44] one.
So again, clarity is not very well in
[29:49] the ordinances and and these documents.
>> Uh you are you're correct, sir. The the
[29:55] short I I will say that the uh while the
attorney can certainly sign on behalf of
[30:01] his client. Uh it would have been nice
if the short form that is provided in
[30:08] the signature in the uh in the notary
block. Uh and those short forms are are
[30:15] contained in statute. I believe it's
14-14A-15
[30:19] if I remember correctly. Uh one of them
the the second short form in that list
[30:25] is in representative capacity. So if it
had if it had indicated that he was
[30:30] signing in representative capacity, I
think that would have resolved any
[30:33] questions that might have come up.
[30:39] » Okay, that's that's my question. Why is
this being discussed when it doesn't
[30:44] need approval, doesn't need signatures?
[30:49] » You've made your point, sir.
>> Thank you.
[31:01] » And Miss Martinez, you and Daniel,
please review this and let's get it
[31:06] straight. And as far as I'm concerned,
it can all come before the commission.
[31:11] » Yes, sir.
>> Thank you, ma'am.
[31:13] » Mhm.
>> All right. Moving on. Light item 12.
[31:18] Discussion action. Claim of exemption
number nine, Eric H and Margaret Bowser.
[31:26] » Um, I'm requesting approval for this
claim of exemption. Um, this exemption
[31:29] meets all requirements and has been
approved and uh reviewed by the county
[31:33] attorney. And then, uh, Eric Bowser is
also present for any questions.
[31:38] Commissioner K.
>> No questions.
[31:41] » Commissioner Trill, family relations
have been verified.
[31:46] » Yes, sir.
>> Yeah, I have no problem.
[31:48] » Okay. Motion.
>> I move to approve plane move exemption
[31:52] number nine, Eric H and Margaret
Fallser.
[31:57] » I'll second. Roll call.
>> Commissioner Karn,
[32:00] » yes.
>> Commissioner Trill,
[32:02] » yes.
>> Chairman Tatum,
[32:03] » yes. Thank you. Line item 13,
discussion, action, review of submitted
[32:10] letter of interest and possible
appointment, a new member to the lodgers
[32:17] tax board.
>> Good morning, commissioners. Um, Tina
[32:21] Gyos reached out again to inform her
interest in being a lodger tax member
[32:27] again. She was a former member before
and served a few years with us. And uh
[32:32] in your packet, you should have received
her letter of interest
[32:38] and she is also online for any questions
you may have for him.
[32:42] » Okay.
>> Commissioners,
[32:46] » um no questions. I Tina was on there
before and did a good job, so I would
[32:49] support it.
>> Well, I know Tina, I support her and my
[32:54] only request is we make sure that all
this is in the actual online portal as
[32:59] well.
>> Okay.
[33:01] Uh, how many does that give you?
>> So, we have Kimi as a owner or operator
[33:09] of a short-term rental. Um, Myra, a
owner operator of Vermejo Park Ranch.
[33:15] Tina as a owner operator of Cold Beer.
Tyler Davis as a resident who represents
[33:22] the general public in the unported area
of the county. So, that leaves us one
[33:28] more position open for a short-term
rental owner and then we should be full.
[33:34] » Okay. Thank you.
>> U
[33:38] motion.
>> I move to approve the appointment of
[33:42] Tina Gyos to the largest tax board.
>> I'll second. Roll call.
[33:46] » Commissioner Kern.
>> Yes.
[33:48] » Hugh.
>> Yes.
[33:49] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes.
[33:51] » Mr.
>> Mr. Chairman, if you would um just for
[33:55] the record, obviously I would like to
add that uh attorney Daniel Ivy Sto is
[34:00] online and Audrey Arm.
>> Thank you.
[34:11] » Line item 14 discussion action logers
tax promotional Lamar billboards
[34:18] contract renewal 2026.
Yes, I was just bringing this back with
[34:23] a few questions that you guys had. Um I
think in your packet
[34:29] you could see
that the Wild Divide submitted their
[34:33] numbers. Um of course they can't exactly
pinpoint exactly
[34:40] um exact numbers that came from the
billboard, but just from the area where
[34:45] the billboard sit. Um,
also I if you guys have any other
[34:52] questions
I can answer.
[34:55] » I believe Commissioner Trujillo had
asked what quality the signs are still
[35:00] in.
>> Are the pictures you sent current or
[35:05] past?
>> Um,
[35:07] » one was really hard to
>> Yeah, the gun was in the way of one of
[35:11] them. Um they did request that they be
changed out at least every two years
[35:17] because after one year they start
getting sunfaded.
[35:21] Um so that would leave us
>> next year we would have to replace them
[35:25] if not sooner. Um I did ask her about
changing the locations too and she said
[35:30] she could get us quote on changing the
locations too on I40.
[35:34] » Okay. I just that one you had to look
across and
[35:39] » where they took the picture and that was
a pretty poor view. But anyway, that was
[35:45] my only concern with it.
>> That's the view you have when I mean I
[35:50] drove I know I couldn't see it.
>> So
[35:54] » I if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman, I I'm
not in favor of this. Uh the data that
[36:00] we received was from the Wild Divide,
not Lamar. So, it had to do with
[36:04] websites. There's still a 5% increase
and uh the overall cost of it. And we're
[36:12] not changing the billboard.
So, I mean, I'd rather change the
[36:18] billboard,
what's on it, and spend the money
[36:22] because you can't read it or move the
board. Um,
[36:29] that's that's my
>> Oh, I wouldn't want to change it until I
[36:34] seen where the board would be. Uh, the
one was clear and present.
[36:41] » The other one
I didn't see any beneficial use out of,
[36:47] but Commissioner K. No, I would agree
with both of your statements and um
[36:55] you know maybe we explore different
locations. You can get different
[36:59] available locations and prices on those.
We look at that.
[37:03] » Okay.
[37:09] » Okay. Motion
>> move to table spending further
[37:14] information.
>> Second.
[37:18] All right, I'm tabled.
Thank you.
[37:23] Roll call.
>> Commissioner Kern,
[37:26] » yes.
>> Commissioner Trillo,
[37:27] » yes.
>> Chairman Tatum,
[37:29] » yes.
Line item 15, discussion action certific
[37:35] certificate of property tax rates in
Mills, Kfax County tax year 2026.
[37:44] Morning, sir.
>> Good morning, commissioners. Good
[37:46] morning, chairman. Good morning, Madame
Clerk. Madame County Manager. The 2026
[37:52] property tax rate have been received and
reviewed. Overall, there are no
[37:56] significant or unusual changes from
2025.
[37:59] Residential rates decreased across our
tax districts, while non-residential
[38:05] rates remained the same. For the county
operational portion, the residential
[38:10] rate decreased from 9.131
to 8.959 mills for 2026.
[38:17] To address the reason for that decrease,
the property tax division calculates the
[38:21] residential operational rate using the
yield control formula. As our
[38:26] residential tax base increased, yield
control limits the amount of revenue
[38:32] growth that can come from existing
property while accounting for allowable
[38:36] inflation and new construction.
That calculation resulted in the
[38:41] residential rate decreasing to 8.959
mills. The county non-residential
[38:48] operational rate remains at the 11.85
which is the maximum allowed by statute.
[38:57] Thank you, Commissioners.
[39:01] » Questions? Commissioner
>> Joe, thank you very much for what you uh
[39:06] stated with there on the yield control.
I appreciate it.
[39:09] » Thank you.
>> Um I just wanted to confirm with the
[39:11] county manager that the revenue uh
generated by the tax rates will match
[39:17] what's in the budget adopted.
>> So when we adopt the budget, we use the
[39:21] previous year's um rates. That's the
requirement. That's how the format is
[39:26] set up. The change between the new mill
rate versus what we used when we created
[39:34] the budget is $85,593
decrease, which is a 1.2% decrease.
[39:41] So that's we did budget 7,183
in property tax revenue and now with the
[39:48] change the estimate is 7,97.
[39:53] » Thank you.
[39:59] » Anything further?
>> Seeing none. Motion
[40:05] » move to approve. Second. [clears throat]
>> Roll call.
[40:09] » Karn.
>> Yes. Commissioner Truhe.
[40:11] » Yes.
>> Chairman Tatum.
[40:12] » Yes.
>> Line item 16, discussion, action,
[40:17] transfer of vehicle and radio from Kfax
County Office of Emergency Manager to
[40:25] Miami Volunteer Fire Department.
Commissioners, any questions, comments?
[40:33] » No, I don't have a problem with it.
>> Okay, no problem. Gather. It's going to
[40:38] be a fuel hauler. I understand that
motion.
[40:42] » Move to approve. Second.
>> Roll call.
[40:46] » Commissioner Kurt.
>> Yes.
[40:48] » Commissioner Truill.
>> Yes.
[40:50] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes. [clears throat] Line item 17
[40:54] discussion. Action resolution number
2026
[40:59] set-2
fireworks band.
[41:06] Any comments? Hasn't
[41:11] gotten any better.
>> Amen.
[41:16] » Yeah, m Mr. Chairman, if I just may real
quick, this is normally we would have
[41:20] stopped putting the fireworks ban on at
this time of the year, but because of
[41:25] we're continued in drought and it
continues to be very warm. Um it it
[41:30] continues to come on and uh you will
likely continue to see this once a month
[41:36] until such time as the uh fire marshall
tells us that uh that the situation has
[41:42] changed sufficiently and I've had to put
this on.
[41:46] » Thank you.
Yeah, it's not getting any better. All
[41:50] you got to do is look at all the water
restrictions every community in this
[41:55] county is going under. Unfortunately.
[41:59] » Motion.
>> Move to approve resolution 2026-72
[42:04] fireworks ban. Second.
>> Roll call.
[42:07] » Commissioner Karn.
>> Yes.
[42:09] » Commissioner Trillio.
>> Yes.
[42:10] » Chairman Tatum.
>> Yes. Line item 18 managers docket.
[42:17] » Chairman commissioners. I'd like to ask
Heidi to come forward. um she's going to
[42:22] be presenting
um a a look or excuse me a map for you
[42:28] to take a look at with the under the new
mapping project. I believe you will be
[42:31] extremely pleased.
[42:36] I'm very excited about this project. Um
there has been a couple of errors that
[42:41] have been discovered but the engineers
in the process of fixing them. But these
[42:47] maps not only have all the county roads
on them, but they also have the
[42:53] commission districts broken down and
insets for like the Farley area, the
[42:59] Raton area. In the previous maps, they
you couldn't really read them, but they
[43:04] put insets so that you can look at them
and and actually see the road numbers.
[43:14] They've also compiled a list
of the roads, the road names, um how
[43:21] many u miles they are, the width, the
type of service, and how many crashes.
[43:29] They've also broken it down to where
it's got the list of bridges. Thank you.
[43:35] It's got the list of of state bridges on
on the roads as well. So, I'm very
[43:41] excited about this.
>> Good deal.
[43:45] And once we get the updated corrected
maps, I'll make sure that each one of
[43:50] you receive a a copy.
>> And you've tiny uh you have a picture
[43:56] database, too, don't you? With
>> I'm sorry.
[43:59] » You have a picture database with all the
uh cattle guards and everything else. Is
[44:05] that correct?
>> Yes.
[44:08] » This is great. And it was North Central
that helped with this. North Central Ga
[44:13] the funding and engineering analytics is
the firm that we went with.
[44:19] » Great.
>> Thank you all for every all the hard
[44:22] work you're doing.
>> This was one of my pet project. So I'm
[44:26] glad it's
>> orange down yellow.
[44:32] » Oh wow. You can
>> read it.
[44:35] » You can actually see Marino Valley on
this one. And you can see the lower
[44:40] quadrant of Commissioner Karns. And
oh yeah, this up here on Raton.
[44:49] I don't can't see the numbers, but okay,
there it is.
[44:54] » Mhm.
>> Wow. We also have smaller of these maps
[45:01] that are going to be laminated and put
in each vehicle uh county road
[45:07] apartment vehicle
kind of as a a flip through so the guys
[45:13] can have access to an updated map.
[45:19] » I think we should laminate copies for
the sheriff's department as well.
[45:23] » That's a very good idea.
mission.
[45:28] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[45:31] » I want one. Yeah. For each commissioner
and then I'd like a big one, too. Every
[45:37] time I'm talking to y'all, I have it on
the back of a door.
[45:42] And with the current
road descriptions, and y'all talk faster
[45:48] than I can flip. Sorry.
>> No. Hey, that's all right. That's your
[45:52] job.
And uh but
[45:56] I would call it much improved
>> considering the map that we are using is
[46:02] dated 2000.
>> Oh yeah.
[46:05] » Have that one in my briefcase because
it's amazing how many times I have to
[46:12] stop.
And I did have one question and I didn't
[46:17] look.
There was two or three of the roads that
[46:22] we had listed under one name, but the
sign said something else.
[46:28] » That is also something else that I'm
working on.
[46:31] » Correct.
>> Um cuz we do have some roads that do not
[46:35] have numbers. Yes,
>> they have names but no numbers. They'll
[46:39] have to come before the commission in
order to get the names.
[46:43] » And
as far it is very confusing. Yes, ma'am.
[46:48] » We're going to have to work on that.
>> And I may have the wrong row. Forgive me
[46:53] if I did. But like one of them starts
out saying Blosser Road, then it turns
[47:00] into another road into the same road and
then it goes back to Blosser Road. Are
[47:06] y'all correct in that mess?
>> We're trying to.
[47:09] » Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. That
That just drives me nuts. I'm like,
[47:14] "Okay, where' I make a wrong turn?" and
and
[47:18] » but I think it what was it that Tanaha
loop or something like that that made
[47:25] no sense to me but anyway I'm sure at
the time it did but
[47:32] Commissioner Kern what do you think
>> no questions it's a definite improvement
[47:37] um it might also be beneficial for the
fire department to have coffee
[47:41] » oh yeah
>> sure
[47:44] » because on what we have responded out of
district. Okay, I know I'm on the right
[47:51] highway. Everybody look for a piece of
orange tape lapping on a gate or a side
[47:57] road that not marked.
>> Correct.
[48:00] » Yeah, that's a very good idea. Police,
fire, and
[48:06] » M. This has been in the works for oh
gosh, at least over a year. Yes. You
[48:10] know, meeting with engineering analytics
and everything.
[48:13] » Okay.
>> I'm I'm very proud of this.
[48:17] And by accident, I was headed the same
way as Glenn the other day. So, we
[48:23] toured four or five roads together.
I was going to look at partially for a
[48:29] different reason and partially for the
same, but uh that was we had an
[48:35] interesting trip. I'm not sure what part
of them are frustrated with
[48:42] uh I'll get with him later. There was
one on a new house that was just wilder
[48:48] and thunder.
Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it.
[48:52] » Thank you,
>> manager.
[48:57] » I was able to reach out to PHI Cares,
which is the um medical service.
[49:06] I will have them presenting to the
commission on September 21st. There are
[49:11] two options. the county can choose to
pay a certain rate which would cover all
[49:16] county residents that are not under
Medicaid. They would be able to use the
[49:22] flight system for no pay and no
deductible. Um they have to be a
[49:26] resident of County of Kfax and be flown
out from Kfax to um wherever they're
[49:32] flown. And then there's an option to pay
for indigent only or excuse me for
[49:37] inmates only. So when they do come
forward to present, they will have two
[49:42] different contracts for the commission
to consider.
[49:47] Um I have signed two special event
permits for cold beer for two events in
[49:52] Filmont, September 12th and September
18th.
[49:57] is
[50:00] the
the September 12th event,
[50:05] excuse me, September 10th is a
pre-dinner reception and a meet and
[50:10] greet for a fly fishing invitational.
And the September
[50:15] 18th is a pre-inter reception, a meet
and greet for the New Mexico Historical
[50:21] Society Conference. Both will be held at
Filmont.
[50:26] On September 24th, we will be having a
presentation of financial software for
[50:32] all staff that's going to be affected.
Um it's a 2hour presentate two to three
[50:38] hour presentation and we will keep the
commission apprised after that
[50:42] presentation.
Uh Heidi was able to locate the process
[50:47] to vacate um roads and so Heidi and I
will start working on uh the vacation of
[50:55] road A6 and hopefully we could get that
done within the next month all the steps
[51:01] and then have it brought forward to the
commission.
[51:04] Uh Glenn was able to interview an
employee or a potential, excuse me, an
[51:10] applicant for the road department and I
believe he's found a successful
[51:14] applicant. Um Danielle will be working
on scheduling the background check and
[51:19] all the other requirements.
[51:23] We have issued a purchase order to J3
Roofing Systems for $131,588.
[51:31] This was a decrease of the original that
was brought forth to the commission, a
[51:35] decrease of $7,300.
Um, the reason I'm bringing it up is
[51:40] there is a leak at the judicial center
and it looks like it's a re a leak in
[51:45] the HVAC drain. Uh Mosark is working on
that today or today or Thursday and uh
[51:53] we'll work with J3 to let them know what
the fix will be. But J Mosarch will be
[51:58] putting on a temporary fix until we get
J3 on the project.
[52:04] And we have also I have also scheduled a
personnel policy review with staff on
[52:09] September 14th.
We need to take a look at some changes
[52:14] that were presented in the new personnel
policy um that we would hope to uh
[52:20] remediate at the next meeting and then
um bring forward all changes by the
[52:27] October the first meeting in October.
And finally, I um engineering analytics
[52:34] sent the minutes for the Tanaha crossing
project and Commissioner Kern has asked
[52:39] for them to present at the next meeting
to get you all an update. So, we'll have
[52:44] them on the next agenda.
And finally, I will be out of the office
[52:49] on September 28th, which is Monday.
And that's all I have.
[52:55] Oh, one more thing. I do have one more
thing. I apologize. Uh, regarding solid
[53:00] waste leans filing, uh, 91 leans have
been filed. We've had several people
[53:06] come forward saying that they no longer
live at the property. They have it's
[53:09] been vacant for years. Um, so we're
working through that process. Uh, two
[53:14] leans that were filed have been paid in
full. And Miss Martinez's next step is
[53:20] to start filing on the mobile homes. And
there's 21 mobile homes that have been
[53:25] identified. So, she'll be working on
filing those leans because they're a
[53:28] little bit different than the regular
leans.
[53:31] And that's about it. Um, she really
hasn't heard [clears throat] from other
[53:36] people that have been filed on. Um, so
the leans exist. We just haven't
[53:41] received any
um correspondence there from it.
[53:48] » Uh, did she get anywhere with the
dumpsters on B4?
[53:55] She did. Um the chains were long enough.
They just weren't being secured
[54:00] correctly.
Uh she did go out there, she secured
[54:03] them. I just It's just going to be a
matter of checking on them. And
[54:07] hopefully residents realize the way to
properly chain them. But yes, the chains
[54:11] are long enough.
>> Yeah, I checked them. But part of the
[54:15] problem, too, is they had a secure bolt
on half of them. Bears pop them up and
[54:22] open them. They need to have a flap over
to keep them latched.
[54:28] » I will have her speak to you after the
meeting.
[54:30] » Okay, sounds good. Uh,
well, that was on my commission docket,
[54:36] but I wanted y'all to have your request
for the handbook by the end of this
[54:42] week.
Uh, so it gave us time to review it.
[54:47] But, uh, the employee handbook,
>> oh,
[54:51] » I was hoping to have y'all's review and
thoughts by the end of this week to get
[54:57] of us adequate time to go over what
y'all's requests were,
[55:04] but we can delay final if needed, I
guess.
[55:09] Okay, that's all I have. Uh,
commissioners, y'all have any further
[55:15] questions for the manager? Yeah, I I I
do. Um, Cheryl, you said about the
[55:21] closure of A6.
That's
[55:27] » We're not We're not closing A6. 62.
Maybe
[55:31] » A6.
>> Oh my gosh.
[55:32] » Oh,
[55:35] okay.
>> My fault. A62.
[55:40] and on on the
fire department inventory is is uh
[55:48] hanging in my mind and everything. It I
don't know if maybe we could visit with
[55:53] Filmont and learn a little bit more
about this particular software they've
[55:56] chosen. Um, if it's something that
[clears throat]
[56:01] I I I need to go back to I I think it's
paramount that all of the departments if
[56:06] they're going to use an inventory
software that we all use the same one
[56:10] and maybe we can do it like we do the
dispatch that each fire department pays
[56:16] a little bit into the purchase of the
software and that way we we assure that
[56:22] we're all using the same software. Um,
so I don't know if maybe you or you and
[56:27] Penny could look at that and and visit
with James about that and and um explore
[56:33] that a little bit more.
>> So the financial software that we're
[56:36] receiving a presentation on has asset
tracking and all of whe whatever the
[56:43] departments use
[56:47] that might be for their own purpose. we
will have to put their items into this
[56:52] software so that we are tracking it. Um
I appreciate that Filmont is tracking
[56:58] their assets. However, it's the county's
responsibility to track assets for all
[57:03] of the fire departments. So again, the
the product that we we are reviewing
[57:10] does have fixed asset module and
everything will be uploaded for the fire
[57:15] departments into this particular
software. Well, our Triadic has a
[57:22] » They do that asset tracking in it. And
what what new financial thing are we
[57:29] looking at?
>> It it's called Tyler Technologies, the
[57:32] ERP system.
[57:38] » Sorry, excuse me. So, the fire
departments are required to give their
[57:42] assets to the state fire marshals. They
are trying to use a better software
[57:47] system to keep track of their own stuff
using their own FPF money to make it
[57:51] easier on them to put a label and a
tracking system. The way I understand it
[57:56] from James is he can send us an Excel
spreadsheet and we can upload it into
[58:00] any of our software inventory. Also,
instead of doing it twice, once I get
[58:08] it, I put it on a list, but he can also
track his own stuff as it comes in. When
[58:13] they order stuff that doesn't come, you
know, we don't always know when they get
[58:18] their stuff. We see the PO and we see
the invoice, but he's trying they're
[58:23] trying they have so much to keep track
of at Belmont. They're trying to make it
[58:28] easier to keep track of their inventory
individually. And I know they have asked
[58:33] all the fire departments to use the same
software to kind of do it for the state
[58:37] fire marshall's office not to make it
easier when they report to them. But
[58:43] ours does like Cheryl said we can input
into any system whether it's Tyler
[58:48] Triotic Cassell whatever we go with if
we ever change then it is able the
[58:54] software that they are looking into to
pay for with their own FPF funds can
[58:58] integrate into any software we have
[59:03] because in the past
they have hired companies to come and
[59:08] inventory their stuff. Well, they just
want to do it themselves instead of
[59:11] paying an outside source to come in and
label everything for them.
[59:18] » If that helps, Commissioner Kern.
>> Well, yeah, it does. And I understand
[59:22] all that. And I'm just
[59:27] want to make sure everybody uses the
same thing because if not, it's going to
[59:30] make your job a lot lower.
I think as long as we can upload it, as
[59:37] long as they use Excel weave, it's it's
always you can convert it into our
[59:41] software.
I have over 14 years of asset tracking.
[59:47] Uh when I left here the first time, the
system was perfect and I under not
[59:53] perfect, I should say it was caught up.
Everything was captured. I went to each
[59:58] uh fire department. We did an asset
inventory. We got everything uploaded
[1:00:02] into Triadic.
I think we had a company come in that
[1:00:07] helped do the asset tracking and then
it's my understanding that that uh
[1:00:12] tracking system was destroyed. It was
lost. And I don't know the status of
[1:00:18] assets at this time, but I do know how
to track what we've purchased in the
[1:00:23] past year, the past two years. and I
will be able to teach Penny how to ass
[1:00:29] to track assets whether we use triadic
or not. And I know that Justin has been
[1:00:34] helping her as well. But moving forward,
we're going to get a good grip on
[1:00:38] capital asset tracking is that's a very
um important process for the county and
[1:00:44] that can always um turn into audit
findings.
[1:00:49] » I know. Sorry. Go I know when Miss
Apodaka was still here, she was doing
[1:00:54] that. And you're correct. When you left,
it was balanced to the tea. And then the
[1:01:00] next individual, they their computer got
destroyed and we ended up starting from
[1:01:05] scratch again. And so, or not from
scratch, but it was it was kind of it
[1:01:12] was a nightmare. And but Miss Abdaka had
it all balanced and everything as well.
[1:01:17] What happened after that, I have no
idea.
[1:01:21] And the commission is required by
statute to certify annually
[1:01:27] um sign off on asset inventory.
Um
[1:01:33] so
>> it is definitely on the list.
[1:01:36] » Yep. So now that fiscal year 26 is
closed, Penny and I will be printing
[1:01:41] reports um of all assets purchased from
July 2025 through June 26, and we're
[1:01:47] going to get them into Triotic. I'm
pretty sure well I I know that Justin
[1:01:52] was able to get those um assets into
triotic for the previous year so that we
[1:01:59] were able to present for the audit.
[1:02:03] » Yeah, I know when uh well I'll just
throw you park fire under the bus since
[1:02:09] that's but uh we requested
an asset list.
[1:02:19] It doesn't exist.
Finally, I found an old one and I am
[1:02:25] handdoing it. You know how many pieces
are on a truck and well, yeah, you
[1:02:31] would. So would you. Uh, and that was
often a computer
[1:02:38] that they quit using 15 years before I
came on and Amado was able to pull the
[1:02:45] documents off of it.
But uh hand itemizing is a thrill. But
[1:02:52] they had it listed four years before
where two members from the county came
[1:02:58] with the fire marshal at that time and
scanned every piece of equipment label
[1:03:06] blah blah blah blah
doesn't exist.
[1:03:13] So, in this, you know, Traic's good,
spreadsheets good. Uh, we need some kind
[1:03:20] of backup
and
[1:03:24] but I'm still working on one. I turned
in a few pickup loads of stuff to Nate
[1:03:29] that we marked off that he pulled his
hair out over, which I would have too.
[1:03:36] I had a DOS computer
still there.
[1:03:42] probably a collector's item. But anyway,
stuff like that. We've taken a ton of
[1:03:48] stuff off that turned into Nate. But uh
yeah, it's crazy. We need some backup
[1:03:56] system to where it, you know, if this
one goes flat, we still got it somewhere
[1:04:03] and [clears throat]
all that.
[1:04:05] Yes. Thank you,
[1:04:11] manager.
That Commission Commissioner K.
[1:04:16] » Yeah. Just one other comment um on the
those individuals that we're talking
[1:04:22] about the solid waste and the leans and
that as you well know if if
[1:04:26] [clears throat] the house or the
dwelling is inhabitable,
[1:04:30] » yes,
>> they have to pay it whether somebody
[1:04:32] lives there or not. And um I don't know
that all residents understand that, you
[1:04:39] know, and that's part of our ordinance
of and and that's determined by our
[1:04:43] assessor and um so they may have to
follow up on that. Just a clarification
[1:04:48] for those. When the assessor's office
mails out notice of values,
[1:04:54] the classification is also protestable
during that 30-day period. So, you could
[1:05:00] contest the value or you could contest
whether it's classified as residential
[1:05:04] or non-residential property during that
time.
[1:05:08] » Thank you, Joe. You're welcome.
>> Thank you.
[1:05:11] » Um,
then the only other thing I have on my
[1:05:14] docket, I don't know,
kind of mixing dockets here. So,
[1:05:18] [laughter]
>> yeah, we're off.
[1:05:20] » We're we're crossing, but I'll just go
ahead and finish up. Um, I know we we
[1:05:25] had talked at the last meeting about the
youth heartline building and I know you
[1:05:28] just got back, Cheryl, but um would like
to initiate uh an appraisal on that
[1:05:34] building because they are interested in
purchasing it.
[1:05:38] » Yeah.
[1:05:41] » An appraisal on what building?
>> The [clears throat] we called it the
[1:05:46] annex. The one over here on Third
Street, the youth heartline is
[1:05:49] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[1:06:04] That's all I have.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you,
[1:06:07] » Commissioner Trill.
>> Yeah, I u bringing some issues with some
[1:06:12] solid waste and I want to thank the
county manager and and Julie for
[1:06:16] addressing those issues, especially out
in Cavernis.
[1:06:19] Um yeah, you seen that they were they
were bad. My phone was blowing up. It
[1:06:24] was like back when Tri-State used to be
here. What it [snorts] was like, but it
[1:06:28] was uh Thank you for cleaning all that
up. Those rolloffs are now uh being
[1:06:32] removed since it's after Labor Day. Um I
do want to spend send a special thank
[1:06:37] you to all the volunteer firefighters.
I've also recently heard from a lot of
[1:06:41] their families. Um, and I've I've I've
passed this along to Nate and the county
[1:06:46] manager as well of uh there's some
morale, you know, I mean, there there's
[1:06:52] probably at least three two to three
fires a day in Kfax County from
[1:06:56] lightning strike. Um, I asked Daniel if
he could look into see if there's
[1:07:01] anything that we could possibly do as a
county um for the volunteer
[1:07:06] firefighters. And then I also passed
along an idea of uh to a couple state
[1:07:13] senators of maybe some kind of property
tax incentive. Um not so you know enough
[1:07:20] to to at least say thank you a little
bit.
[1:07:24] Um on the 21st on Monday I will have to
attend via Zoom. Uh I will be traveling
[1:07:31] that day. Uh Monica Beta with North
Central will will be here giving a
[1:07:36] presentation on the rock program uh with
their prior house in their current house
[1:07:42] uh currently in commissioner Karn's
district being completed and then I
[1:07:46] think there's there's also some in the
works for Maxwell next and I believe
[1:07:51] spring or after that.
Um, I was going to ask the county
[1:07:56] manager either the next meeting or
meeting after, depending on what the
[1:08:00] agendas look like, if we could get a
grant update, kind of any grants that we
[1:08:05] have outstanding, making sure we're
drawing them down, uh, at least
[1:08:09] quarterly. And then um I would like to
ask Daniel, I mean I know it's probably
[1:08:16] already kind of said from earlier, but
if we could take a look at the, you
[1:08:20] know, the subdivisions and
>> and all that other stuff, we could put
[1:08:24] that on your list to to get it cleaned
up. So,
[1:08:29] » uh I can I can do that. Also, by the
way, I do have uh I've been doing some
[1:08:32] research on the volunteer firefighters.
Uh I'll be setting around some some of
[1:08:37] the results of that.
>> Okay.
[1:08:39] » Uh yeah, this week. So,
>> well, thank you very much. I appreciate
[1:08:43] you.
That is all I had.
[1:08:52] » I guess uh
one other thing, if the county manager
[1:08:57] knows if we opened it up to the pickle
ball people, if we could open it back to
[1:09:01] the
>> No, it's not not Hackisack, but the
[1:09:06] » cornhole
>> cornhole people. They will be here next
[1:09:11] meeting to make a request.
>> Perfect.
[1:09:13] » Yes.
>> Thank you.
[1:09:19] » All right. Uh employee handbook was on
my list. I was hoping to have everything
[1:09:26] by the end of this week, but
y'all can have it to us by
[1:09:33] early next week. I guess that'll be all
right. Uh, I want to start seeing
[1:09:39] quarterly lodgers tax financials
and where we're at, what's owed, what's
[1:09:46] going on.
Uh, I had A71 on my list, but we
[1:09:53] discussed that prior.
Uh,
[1:09:58] I am putting together a deal on Rogers
tax and
[1:10:06] I will send it to Daniel for him to send
to y'all for ads attract so forth.
[1:10:14] Um,
you know, we always include, and the
[1:10:19] state of New Mexico does too, that the
only emergency services are police and
[1:10:27] fire.
We're forgetting who we work with. our
[1:10:32] EMTs, our ambulance service,
and I think I brought this up before,
[1:10:39] the Association of Counties has taken
this to legislature,
[1:10:45] but I think every county
and village and city and volunteer
[1:10:53] needs to also send a resolution to the
state house to include them.
[1:10:59] » [clears throat]
>> They are an intricral part of our
[1:11:02] community.
Uh our fire department responds to
[1:11:07] assist them in loading and helping.
Uh we are primarily volunteers
[1:11:16] and I have no problem with that.
But they need assistance also and it's
[1:11:22] becoming a larger and larger problem in
every small county
[1:11:30] incor unincorporated and incorporated
villages but Maxwell no longer has one I
[1:11:37] believe.
uh you know
[1:11:41] it's getting rough and the state in my
opinion needs to step up and add them to
[1:11:49] the list of emergency
services
[1:11:55] and I would like to see a push for that.
Other than that, I got all mine answered
[1:12:02] ahead of time, but I would like to take
a moment. Uh, we will not be in session
[1:12:09] and everyone needs to remember 911.
the police, the firefighters, the EMTs,
[1:12:18] the ambulances, the military, and all
the civilians that gave their lives
[1:12:24] trying to save people
and to get them out.
[1:12:31] And I if I'd have thought sooner, we it
should have been on the agenda. I
[1:12:36] apologize for that. But
in closing, I would really like to
[1:12:41] recognize all of those people
and we're taking care of their country,
[1:12:48] their family, and their city. But with
that motion to adjurnn,
[1:12:57] » second roll call.
>> Commissioner Kern,
[1:13:00] » yes.
>> Commissioner Trude,
[1:13:01] » yes.
>> Tatum,
[1:13:02] » yes.
If any of you would like, we're going to
[1:13:06] go out to the building and have a tour.
If y'all
[1:13:12] would uh like to see the event center
and all the modifications.