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So Matt, when you have anything to say, 47 00:02:28,634 --> 00:02:32,133 just turn your camera on so we can see your smiling face 48 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:35,867 and your broken leg and your broken leg and toes. 49 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:39,100 Open discussion. 50 00:02:40,567 --> 00:02:43,667 Does anybody have anything from the audience of any items 51 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:45,300 that aren't, are not on the agenda? 52 00:02:48,367 --> 00:02:51,834 I see none. So we'll move on to the Consent Agenda. 53 00:02:52,667 --> 00:02:54,166 The Consent Agenda is 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,767 the minutes from our June 16th meeting, 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,734 which are included in our packet. 56 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:03,000 Hopefully everybody read those? 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,066 Do I have a most, do I have anybody 58 00:03:07,066 --> 00:03:09,100 that has any questions concerning the minutes? 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,233 If not, do I have a recommendation for approval? 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,333 Make a motion to approve. Do I have a second? Second. 61 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:23,233 All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed say the same. 62 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:28,066 Okay. They are approved. Okay. 63 00:03:29,467 --> 00:03:31,634 The next thing on the agenda are plans. 64 00:03:32,467 --> 00:03:35,066 The first plan is Park Home Furniture at 65 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:36,700 Shiloh Commercial Park. 66 00:03:37,266 --> 00:03:40,100 It's a preliminary final land development plan. 67 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:44,066 And we have Who's here or, oh, 68 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:46,100 - I'm here again. 69 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:49,567 - Take it away. - Okay. 70 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:53,734 Yes, I'm Mark Trudy with Penn Tier Engineering from and also 71 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:55,500 and Pet Tier Engineering. 72 00:03:55,500 --> 00:04:00,066 And we just want to present the final land development plan 73 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:01,567 for Park Home Furnishings. 74 00:04:02,834 --> 00:04:04,834 I think Sharon's gonna get it up on the screen 75 00:04:04,834 --> 00:04:05,867 here. I'm getting there. 76 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:07,266 - Oh, are you doing it or you want 77 00:04:07,266 --> 00:04:08,467 me to do it? You want whichever. 78 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:11,734 - But yeah, we, we presented this 79 00:04:11,734 --> 00:04:15,567 as a sketch plan oh back I think earlier, 80 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:17,266 very earlier this year. 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,700 And we've been through the process 82 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:23,000 with the shallow commercial park subdivision 83 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:26,867 and are now just, you know, creating the lot 84 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:28,867 for the park on the furnishing store. 85 00:04:29,867 --> 00:04:34,767 And so this is pretty much the landed off the plan for that. 86 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:39,300 I'll just go type a record plan 87 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,467 or layout plan first. 88 00:04:40,867 --> 00:04:43,467 We can, we can touch base on that Lindsay. 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,734 Yeah, this is, this is out shuttle commercial park. 90 00:04:45,867 --> 00:04:49,266 It'll be lot six from dozen last month. 91 00:04:49,734 --> 00:04:51,634 Phase two fiber subdivision plan. 92 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:56,734 And this is from on phase 93 00:04:56,734 --> 00:04:57,834 two fiber subdivision. 94 00:04:57,867 --> 00:05:01,567 This was East TR road extension that comes up 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,266 and curs around to a cul-de-sac. 96 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:08,033 And the home to suite hotel is being built up in this corner 97 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:09,333 of the side currently. 98 00:05:10,367 --> 00:05:12,700 And Park, 99 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:15,734 park Home Furnishings a proposed in is like a 40, 100 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:21,333 I think it's 40,800 square foot furniture showroom store. 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,500 This really will not be a store that has like 102 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:26,567 bringing stuff for delivery. 103 00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:28,033 This more just showrooms. 104 00:05:28,233 --> 00:05:30,934 And then Park Home Furniture has a warehouse that they 105 00:05:31,433 --> 00:05:32,767 get all of their, or bring all 106 00:05:32,767 --> 00:05:36,300 of their furniture deliveries from on here. 107 00:05:38,367 --> 00:05:40,567 This is in the commercial district. 108 00:05:40,767 --> 00:05:43,834 We're coming off of East TRO Road and 109 00:05:45,033 --> 00:05:47,467 whenever we present the sketch plan, we talked to staff 110 00:05:47,467 --> 00:05:49,300 and I think it was either the planning commission 111 00:05:49,367 --> 00:05:53,567 or the council meeting, the sketch plan about trying 112 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,934 to work along with the form based Zoning. 113 00:05:57,233 --> 00:06:00,567 And rather than having all the parking out front, trying 114 00:06:00,567 --> 00:06:02,934 to push some of the parking to the back of the site. 115 00:06:03,567 --> 00:06:07,066 And because originally there were three double bay load 116 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:10,066 double bays of parking in the front 117 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:12,500 and the store was slid back further. 118 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:16,133 So we worked with the staff with our client 119 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:19,934 and put a bay of parking in the back 120 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:21,634 in this area here. 121 00:06:22,667 --> 00:06:27,333 And also the required parking was about, 122 00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:30,767 was about 90 86. 123 00:06:30,834 --> 00:06:32,533 It was 86, 80 86. 124 00:06:32,667 --> 00:06:37,000 And, and we, the client didn't need to build that many, 125 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:40,367 so we did a parking study basically just using the 126 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:43,634 information from their other two stores that, you know, 127 00:06:45,133 --> 00:06:47,867 the average of those two, you know, was about 128 00:06:48,533 --> 00:06:51,066 needing 47 spaces, 48 spaces. 129 00:06:51,133 --> 00:06:55,834 But the, the highest store had about 60 spaces on here. 130 00:06:56,367 --> 00:07:00,700 But we are ending up with, 131 00:07:01,066 --> 00:07:02,066 I don't have the number here. 132 00:07:02,133 --> 00:07:06,000 I think it was 71 from 82 to 76. 76. Yeah. 133 00:07:06,467 --> 00:07:09,100 And those six spaces that 134 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:11,834 even we aren't building now, 135 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:13,567 but if they have to be built, 136 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:15,500 we'll be back in this area here. 137 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:17,934 There's a space provided for them. 138 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:21,133 The back area, like the client could use that back here. 139 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:24,533 Parking, there's a lot of employee parking back here. 140 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:29,100 There is a customer pickup in the back of this area here 141 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:33,834 and s some spaces back for them to go to walk in that area. 142 00:07:34,834 --> 00:07:37,066 The main entrance is, you know, right, 143 00:07:37,367 --> 00:07:40,066 right here at the store, at the front center of the store. 144 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:45,367 And I'm trying to think what else to do 145 00:07:45,367 --> 00:07:47,834 that we looked at the staff that wanted 146 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:50,333 to know about the circulation for trucks. 147 00:07:50,433 --> 00:07:53,634 If you want to go to that now we are looking at it, 148 00:07:54,233 --> 00:07:56,500 we still want to provide access for trucks 149 00:07:56,634 --> 00:08:00,734 and also with the trash facility in the back here. 150 00:08:00,734 --> 00:08:02,300 And Lindsay calls that up. 151 00:08:02,567 --> 00:08:03,567 That was an exhibit that we 152 00:08:04,033 --> 00:08:08,834 provided for staff of just 153 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:11,133 so showing like for the, for the larger trucks, 154 00:08:11,266 --> 00:08:15,333 this is a loading dock area where they would come in here 155 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,934 and then back in and then go back out 156 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 and the, the parking area and, 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 and always was sized for that. 158 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:27,467 And also then for, for refuge refuse trucks, kind 159 00:08:27,467 --> 00:08:29,033 of the same thing of them being able to come 160 00:08:29,033 --> 00:08:31,734 through the site and they would pull in here 161 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:35,066 and then just do a three point turn and back out and exit. 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,100 So there is more than adequate amount of space 163 00:08:38,867 --> 00:08:40,367 for the truck circulation in there. 164 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:43,066 Furniture stores don't really have a lot 165 00:08:43,233 --> 00:08:46,100 of parking on there. 166 00:08:46,033 --> 00:08:48,533 Like he may end up having some tent sales out front 167 00:08:49,066 --> 00:08:50,467 with some of the spaces in there, 168 00:08:50,634 --> 00:08:54,300 but it's, it's a very workable site. 169 00:08:55,333 --> 00:08:57,834 The stormwater for the site is going to, 170 00:08:58,634 --> 00:09:02,000 is it regional basin that's being reviewed 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,934 and approved on the Clear site Ley Farms. 172 00:09:07,467 --> 00:09:09,367 We should be getting approval on that here very shortly 173 00:09:10,033 --> 00:09:12,533 and that's where the stormwater will be going from the 174 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 site on there. 175 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:18,700 And if you want to go, 176 00:09:18,767 --> 00:09:21,266 I mean just other things just be probably landscaping. 177 00:09:21,266 --> 00:09:24,066 Go over that briefly and I'll go that in the utilities 178 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,934 and see if you have any questions. 179 00:09:39,066 --> 00:09:41,300 Yeah, just on the landscaping, there's, 180 00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:45,066 there's just typical parking bay requirements 181 00:09:45,133 --> 00:09:49,300 or park perimeter parking requirements for any 182 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:50,500 of the parking spaces. 183 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:54,834 And then there's s screening requirements for any 184 00:09:54,834 --> 00:09:57,000 of the spaces facing a public right of way, 185 00:09:57,033 --> 00:09:59,500 which we are doing here. 186 00:09:59,734 --> 00:10:03,100 You know, combination of shrubs and trees. 187 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:04,934 This, this is a little bit more dense 188 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:06,333 as per that requirement. 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,033 And then hitting all the islands and, 190 00:10:09,266 --> 00:10:12,467 and also adding a little bit of screening in the back 191 00:10:12,734 --> 00:10:13,767 for the loading area 192 00:10:14,367 --> 00:10:16,734 and just back in that area just to, 193 00:10:17,634 --> 00:10:19,033 that's more of a service area. 194 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:21,033 So you did wanna provide some screening there? 195 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,567 Sidewalk access, A couple things to note, 196 00:10:25,634 --> 00:10:28,533 and this goes back to when we originally started the 197 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,533 shallow commercial park. 198 00:10:31,734 --> 00:10:34,934 Original subdivision was staff ultimately wanted a 199 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:37,834 connection to the premier theater site. 200 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,266 And as we worked through different lots 201 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:45,033 and this lot came on board and we looked at it and, 202 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:48,567 and this one actually seems to work the best 203 00:10:48,867 --> 00:10:51,100 and gives a better location of closer 204 00:10:51,266 --> 00:10:55,367 to the theater entrance area, which is down this area 205 00:10:56,133 --> 00:10:59,233 of this sidewalk will go through to the entrance 206 00:10:59,734 --> 00:11:02,233 and also go down here to a set of steps 207 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:04,533 and down to the property line. 208 00:11:05,233 --> 00:11:08,033 So if the connection is ever, you know, could be made 209 00:11:08,734 --> 00:11:10,033 to the theater site, 210 00:11:10,133 --> 00:11:13,066 we are also given a construction easement for 211 00:11:13,066 --> 00:11:15,266 that connection if that would ever need to be made 212 00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:18,834 with either the current theater owner if 213 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:20,734 that property redevelops at some time. 214 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:24,066 Could you go to the utility plan now? 215 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:41,133 Okay. Maybe zoom in Tad if you could Yeah. 216 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:42,367 - Go 217 00:11:47,266 --> 00:11:48,033 getting there. 218 00:11:49,867 --> 00:11:54,066 - Okay. Okay. Yeah, the, the mechanical room 219 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:56,100 for the building is back in this corner. 220 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:59,033 - There you go, mark. - Yeah, right there. 221 00:11:59,734 --> 00:12:01,500 And so we, we tried 222 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,500 to get all the utilities back in that area. 223 00:12:05,033 --> 00:12:09,133 Right now there is a storm drain on the property line 224 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:12,834 that basically take taking some of the offsite drainage 225 00:12:12,834 --> 00:12:15,467 and the drainage from this site on there. 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,533 And then we are bringing the sanitary 227 00:12:20,033 --> 00:12:23,233 and then the, there's fire and domestic water service 228 00:12:23,433 --> 00:12:25,567 and gas service all along there. 229 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:29,767 And so basically everything is five feet on center. 230 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,834 By the time you look at the separations, 231 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:33,533 there'll be somewhere around four feet 232 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:36,266 or so between most of those utilities from, 233 00:12:36,667 --> 00:12:39,333 from the outer side, outer diameter of the pipe. 234 00:12:40,133 --> 00:12:42,000 And since we're doing that, we, 235 00:12:42,233 --> 00:12:45,467 we also could not get the electric back in this corner too. 236 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:48,233 And we did talk to West Penn Power. 237 00:12:48,266 --> 00:12:52,233 There is an existing power line that runs back 238 00:12:53,433 --> 00:12:54,734 on the property here 239 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:59,066 and they said it is feasible to come down off of 240 00:12:59,066 --> 00:13:03,734 that one pull here and go underground to a transformer 241 00:13:03,734 --> 00:13:06,033 and then bring that into the building. 242 00:13:06,166 --> 00:13:11,100 So we, we try to make as much room as possible trying 243 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:13,033 to get the children's back to this corner 244 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,533 and that involved, you know, bringing the electric from one 245 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:20,867 of the existing pools In general. 246 00:13:21,133 --> 00:13:23,066 That's, you know, an overall summary. 247 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:26,100 So if you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them. 248 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,467 - Tad, do you have any questions? I do not. 249 00:13:32,734 --> 00:13:33,734 Sa 250 00:13:34,467 --> 00:13:38,867 - I had was looking at the other park home facilities. 251 00:13:39,133 --> 00:13:41,367 They were all sort of one story. Yeah. 252 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,000 So this one will have two stories, right? It's just one. 253 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,233 - Well it is just show, it's be one story. 254 00:13:46,567 --> 00:13:50,000 Just the showrooms are all very large Right. 255 00:13:50,033 --> 00:13:51,300 Large ceilings and on. 256 00:13:51,767 --> 00:13:53,634 - Yeah. So is there gonna be two levels to the No, 257 00:13:53,734 --> 00:13:54,734 - I think it's only be one - Level. 258 00:13:54,734 --> 00:13:55,867 Yeah, it's gonna be just one. Yep. 259 00:13:57,433 --> 00:14:01,333 - Thank, no, no questions. I have one. 260 00:14:03,066 --> 00:14:08,100 Okay. This is gonna be out the side 261 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:09,467 of the building's gonna face Shiloh? 262 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:11,467 Yes. Is that correct? The front 263 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:15,033 of the building's gonna face well, well 264 00:14:15,033 --> 00:14:16,033 - No, sorry. 265 00:14:16,033 --> 00:14:17,367 The, the front of the building's gonna face Shiloh. 266 00:14:17,367 --> 00:14:18,500 This is the front right here. 267 00:14:18,667 --> 00:14:19,700 - Okay. So it 268 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,100 - Is, and actually what they wanted to do, I, 269 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:25,634 I wish I had one of the Chicago commercial part, this 270 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:28,000 entrance almost lines up 271 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:33,266 with the East Trott Road intersection at, at Chicago Road. 272 00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:36,300 Visibility wise, they wanted that view in 273 00:14:36,867 --> 00:14:38,467 to the front of the store. 274 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:43,333 - Okay. Alright. So that property, 275 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:49,066 how geographically does is, is 276 00:14:49,066 --> 00:14:51,533 that higher than when 277 00:14:51,533 --> 00:14:54,133 because the drainage is gonna be back on the CLA farm? 278 00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:58,000 - Yeah, I mean, but this is still higher than the CLA farm. 279 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:59,634 Okay. So yeah, all this is higher. 280 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:03,066 - So basically all the storm water's gonna run 281 00:15:03,133 --> 00:15:04,266 away from child 282 00:15:05,033 --> 00:15:06,033 - Yes. 283 00:15:06,033 --> 00:15:07,266 - Towards Claire. - Yeah. 284 00:15:07,333 --> 00:15:09,500 I mean for, for this subdivision, 285 00:15:10,367 --> 00:15:12,100 all the drainage is coming down 286 00:15:12,233 --> 00:15:15,467 and either going down, what is Kelly Lane 287 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:19,634 or there's a backside on the north side of the hotel 288 00:15:20,467 --> 00:15:21,567 going cross lot 289 00:15:22,033 --> 00:15:24,033 and those would then go down 290 00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:26,367 through the clear, clear property. 291 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:29,133 All this is above, above the clear property. Okay. 292 00:15:29,333 --> 00:15:30,634 So everything and then church property is 293 00:15:30,634 --> 00:15:33,333 above this property so they, it's kind of tiered down. 294 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:34,333 Alright. 295 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:37,467 - Okay. That's the only question I have. 296 00:15:37,467 --> 00:15:41,066 Everything else looks fine. I don't have any questions. 297 00:15:42,433 --> 00:15:46,500 Do you have anything Matt? He said no. Okay. 298 00:15:47,767 --> 00:15:51,066 Alright, staff, do you have any comments? 299 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:54,300 - We reviewed the plan and went through the comments. 300 00:15:54,634 --> 00:15:56,000 Feels like all of the comments are 301 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,066 fairly satisfied at this point. 302 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:01,467 Just the basics that we typically have outstanding prior 303 00:16:01,467 --> 00:16:02,767 to recommending approval. 304 00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:06,033 - Okay. My other comment is, 305 00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:12,033 do we need to include in the recommendation? 306 00:16:14,333 --> 00:16:17,266 'cause it looks as though 82 parking spaces are required. 307 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 - Yeah, that's a really good question. The, 308 00:16:21,266 --> 00:16:24,033 - Now they have a proposal that they would increase 309 00:16:24,934 --> 00:16:27,033 2 82 if needed, 310 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,233 but they're only gonna build 76. 311 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,567 - It's, it's written into our Ordinance 312 00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:36,000 that you may put less parking. 313 00:16:36,567 --> 00:16:38,500 I guess it wouldn't hurt to, to say yeah, 314 00:16:38,533 --> 00:16:40,533 approve the reduced parking. 315 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,533 Okay. They can reduce the parking, but as Mr. 316 00:16:43,533 --> 00:16:46,367 Torretti pointed out, they have re reserved a space. 317 00:16:46,934 --> 00:16:50,033 Should those, should those park parking spaces be needed? 318 00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:53,033 They have the place reserved to put them in. Okay. 319 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,266 They just do not think they 320 00:16:55,266 --> 00:16:56,567 need them and they don't want to. Okay, 321 00:16:56,634 --> 00:16:58,033 - I just want to clarify that 322 00:16:58,133 --> 00:17:00,934 to make sure we're not missing anything in the approval. 323 00:17:01,033 --> 00:17:03,000 - Yeah, there it's, they're increase 324 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,500 or they're decreasing parking by less than 10%. 325 00:17:05,634 --> 00:17:08,066 Okay. And there's a, a statement in the Ordinance 326 00:17:08,066 --> 00:17:09,734 that allows that to happen. 327 00:17:09,834 --> 00:17:13,033 Okay. But just to be on the safe side, it would be okay to 328 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,233 recommend approval of that request. 329 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:16,333 Okay. 330 00:17:17,333 --> 00:17:20,033 - Do I have anybody that wants to make 331 00:17:20,467 --> 00:17:21,934 a motion for approval? 332 00:17:26,033 --> 00:17:29,934 I'll make a motion for approval all. Do I have a second? 333 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:35,266 I'll second it. Okay. We need to make that note though. Yep. 334 00:17:36,567 --> 00:17:40,867 Do you have all I like 335 00:17:40,867 --> 00:17:42,266 to note this one. 336 00:17:42,767 --> 00:17:46,567 - Okay. - You read all that crap. Okay. 337 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,734 So Clark Township planning 338 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,000 - Commission meeting today is 339 00:17:51,166 --> 00:17:53,934 July 21st, 2026. 340 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:58,000 I move to recommend to counsel to approve 341 00:17:58,567 --> 00:18:01,066 the park home furniture at Shiloh Commercial Park. 342 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:04,300 Preliminary slash final land development plan dated 343 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:07,000 June 22nd, 2026 344 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:10,233 and last revised July 13th, 2026. 345 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:12,867 Subject to the following conditions. 346 00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:17,100 Number one, within 90 days from the date of approval 347 00:18:17,033 --> 00:18:19,700 by counsel, all conditions must be satisfied. 348 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:22,000 Final signatures must be obtained 349 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,100 and the plan must be recorded 350 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,500 with its Centre County Recorder of deeds office. 351 00:18:26,367 --> 00:18:30,066 Failure to meet the 90 day recordation time requirement will 352 00:18:30,066 --> 00:18:31,533 render the plan null and void. 353 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:35,066 Number two, pay all outstanding review fees. 354 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:38,266 Number three, address to dissatisfaction 355 00:18:38,266 --> 00:18:41,033 of the Township engineer any outstanding plan 356 00:18:41,033 --> 00:18:42,467 review from staff. 357 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,233 Number four, fully comply 358 00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:48,533 with the college Township code section 180 dash 12 359 00:18:49,567 --> 00:18:51,834 Number five, post as approved 360 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,000 by the Township engineer prior to recording. 361 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:58,734 Number six, record approved declaration of stormwater access 362 00:18:58,734 --> 00:19:01,567 and maintenance easement prior to recording. 363 00:19:02,233 --> 00:19:04,000 Number seven, provide proof 364 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,066 of national pollutant discharge elimination system approval. 365 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:10,033 Number eight, provide intent 366 00:19:10,033 --> 00:19:12,700 to serve letter from university area joint authority. 367 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:15,100 Number nine, provide intent 368 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,233 to serve letter from College Township water authority. 369 00:19:17,867 --> 00:19:20,000 Number 10, provide evidence 370 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,033 of exemption from sewage planning. 371 00:19:22,834 --> 00:19:26,300 Number 11, work with the College Township Zoning officer 372 00:19:26,467 --> 00:19:28,533 and Centre County 9 1 1 373 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:31,100 to establish proper addressing prior to recording. 374 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,133 Number 12, record the Shiloh Park, 375 00:19:34,433 --> 00:19:37,066 the Shiloh Commercial Park phase two final subdivision plan 376 00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:40,734 prior to recording number 13. 377 00:19:40,867 --> 00:19:43,467 - Number 13 will be 378 00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:51,700 allow parking to be reduced 379 00:19:52,166 --> 00:19:56,367 to 76 spaces versus 82 380 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:59,934 since the plan has 381 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:05,867 reserved an area for the six additional parking spaces. 382 00:20:06,767 --> 00:20:08,533 - Great. And number 14, 383 00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:11,300 all conditions must be accepted in writing within seven days 384 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:14,066 from the date of the conditional approval letter 385 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,333 from the Township engineer. 386 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:18,867 I'll take a vote. All those in favor? 387 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:23,934 - All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed? 388 00:20:25,634 --> 00:20:30,000 You got an approval. Thank you. Thank you. 389 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:33,333 You get 13. Got it. Okay, good. Thank you. 390 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:39,133 Okay. Okay, 391 00:20:39,333 --> 00:20:43,467 the next thing on the agenda is Oak Hall Equestrian 392 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:45,867 facility land development. 393 00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:53,567 This is preliminary final land 394 00:20:53,567 --> 00:20:56,033 development plan dated 395 00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:59,767 June 22nd, 2026 revised 396 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:03,300 July 13th, 2026. 397 00:21:03,567 --> 00:21:06,767 And Mark, are you up again? Yeah, you're a busy man tonight. 398 00:21:09,834 --> 00:21:13,734 Okay. We'll let you go and then we will have questions. 399 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,634 - Okay. I guess, Linda, can you get back 400 00:21:15,634 --> 00:21:17,634 to the overall plan first 401 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:19,700 and then we'll, we'll start then we'll get to this one. 402 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,834 Just don't do the context. 403 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:26,634 Yeah, this property is on 404 00:21:28,867 --> 00:21:33,066 road on the, it's out in the suburbs of Will call right 405 00:21:33,066 --> 00:21:34,033 before the quarry there. 406 00:21:34,834 --> 00:21:37,233 And it's along, 407 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:40,000 basically the quarry property is right up here. 408 00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:43,300 This is the sharp curve that goes around it. 409 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:48,266 And I think this used 410 00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:50,033 to be a veterinarian's office at one time. 411 00:21:50,033 --> 00:21:52,333 That property back there, if I recall, you know, 412 00:21:52,767 --> 00:21:55,233 before it was bought, sold a few years ago. 413 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:59,066 Anyways, right now 414 00:22:00,166 --> 00:22:02,000 the property owner does have forces. 415 00:22:03,467 --> 00:22:06,934 He does have an outdoor equestrian re key. 416 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,533 Then if you want to zoom in, Lindsay, 417 00:22:09,634 --> 00:22:11,533 see show must be proposed 418 00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:19,233 is and oh, both 419 00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:20,467 for road is out here. 420 00:22:20,467 --> 00:22:23,000 That on the right side of the screen here, 421 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,066 this is coming off the driveways. 422 00:22:26,066 --> 00:22:27,333 This is the house that's there. 423 00:22:28,734 --> 00:22:30,033 There is a shed 424 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:34,467 and there is a barn right here. 425 00:22:34,834 --> 00:22:38,867 And what they're proposing is a indoor riding rink. 426 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:42,066 It's a bank bond, it's gonna be tucked into the bank, 427 00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:44,233 you know, half of it's gonna be tucked in. 428 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:46,700 Is that sloping sea sloping up pretty 429 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:48,000 steep in that area there. 430 00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:53,567 And they want to build a interior riding rink in that area. 431 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,266 All this really they're doing there is the 432 00:23:02,033 --> 00:23:03,734 providing storm water management. 433 00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:06,300 If gonna go to the next page, the, the right rate, 434 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,767 that boat is about almost 1000 square feet. 435 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:11,734 That, and so 436 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:18,500 they have some underground stormwater facilities 437 00:23:19,066 --> 00:23:20,133 right in this area. 438 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:23,000 And they also have a underground 439 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:26,467 system right here too. 440 00:23:27,266 --> 00:23:30,066 And what they want to do, this is a nice yard area 441 00:23:30,433 --> 00:23:32,000 for the house. 442 00:23:32,133 --> 00:23:36,500 They didn't wanna, they turn this into a basin, so they are, 443 00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:38,934 they, it's more expensive, 444 00:23:38,934 --> 00:23:42,500 but they wanted to pretty much just put the, 445 00:23:42,667 --> 00:23:45,033 put storm water underground where they could instead 446 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,467 and, and do that. 447 00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:52,033 Other than that, the only other thing that's really 448 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,266 being required is asking for a sidewalk easement. 449 00:23:56,834 --> 00:24:00,734 And so maybe Lindsay did some analysis of that 450 00:24:00,734 --> 00:24:03,700 and she can probably talk about the rating 451 00:24:03,834 --> 00:24:06,033 for this more than what I can, so, 452 00:24:07,033 --> 00:24:08,033 - Sure. 453 00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:11,133 So, you know, we have a sidewalk matrix that we use to 454 00:24:12,734 --> 00:24:15,300 score the priority of a sidewalk. 455 00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:18,934 This one on the list of, I think it can go up to 456 00:24:20,767 --> 00:24:21,767 - Seven and less. 457 00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:26,000 - Well, so, but what does the score go up to? 18. Oh, 458 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 - The score itself, right? 459 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,300 - Yeah, so it can go up to about 20, this scored to four. 460 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,233 Okay. That there is a, 461 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:39,767 there is a recommendation in the pedestrian facilities 462 00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:42,300 master plan for determining whether 463 00:24:42,433 --> 00:24:46,033 or not a project is feasible financially. 464 00:24:46,467 --> 00:24:50,567 And the, the rating doesn't, the, the rating 465 00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:54,100 of Ford doesn't really apply even to that formula. 466 00:24:54,834 --> 00:24:57,734 So we are, and since it's outside of the growth boundary 467 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,567 there, it's not connecting any transit facilities. 468 00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,934 It's not connecting to any existing facilities 469 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,567 or any unserved neighborhoods 470 00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:09,700 or shown as a reservation on our official 471 00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:10,767 map or anything like that. 472 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:15,000 We are recom the staff is okay with the request 473 00:25:15,133 --> 00:25:16,266 to waive the sidewalk. 474 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,634 - And - Then if you had to go back to the overall plan 475 00:25:20,433 --> 00:25:25,100 with this location would be right 476 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,266 along this steep curve. 477 00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:29,467 This, this slope comes up immediately from the roadway. 478 00:25:30,567 --> 00:25:34,634 And also there is a bridge there that ultimately have 479 00:25:34,634 --> 00:25:37,100 to be crossed and it is not pedestrian friendly. 480 00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,233 Also this mil race right here. 481 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:44,367 And so if you had to put it here, you, you end up probably 482 00:25:44,367 --> 00:25:47,767 with like a 10 foot high retaining wall along most of 483 00:25:47,767 --> 00:25:49,867 that area to put it right in there. 484 00:25:50,133 --> 00:25:52,333 And there are no sidewalks anywhere else. 485 00:25:53,066 --> 00:25:55,533 And like I said, there's an existing bridge right here. 486 00:25:55,667 --> 00:25:58,767 The quarry is right beyond here, the oak call quarry. 487 00:25:58,834 --> 00:26:01,133 So not in a good location and, 488 00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:04,066 and per the rating, you know, 489 00:26:04,066 --> 00:26:06,066 we we're requesting consideration for that waiver. 490 00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:14,567 - Ted, do you have any questions? I was just 491 00:26:14,567 --> 00:26:16,000 curious though, that's Spring Creek. 492 00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:19,100 Is that Spring Creek going through there or is that 493 00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:22,100 - Right now this has just been no race, 494 00:26:22,467 --> 00:26:23,700 I think Spring Creek. 495 00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:28,734 - So I spring creek's on the other side of the road. 496 00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:31,300 The other side. Okay. So the, I have actually 497 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:33,867 Joe Humphrey's house is right there. 498 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,567 - Yeah, exactly. And his was down at back 499 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,066 - And I'm a friend with his daughters 500 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,100 and I was just curious how will 501 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,033 that have any impact on the stream? It looks 502 00:26:43,033 --> 00:26:45,233 - Like the storm water major's being pretty well 503 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,233 considered on the ground storage 504 00:26:47,233 --> 00:26:50,233 - Storm waters down the, the, the house or the barn 505 00:26:50,467 --> 00:26:52,467 and the indoor riding stable, 506 00:26:52,667 --> 00:26:54,100 it's being built into the slope. 507 00:26:54,266 --> 00:26:56,133 So it isn't like they're grading, trying 508 00:26:56,133 --> 00:26:59,300 to grade a flat site on a steep, on a steep slope. 509 00:26:59,767 --> 00:27:01,233 So they're working with the site there. 510 00:27:01,567 --> 00:27:04,567 Try to minimize as much of disturbance as they can for that. 511 00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:10,066 And, and don't, don't have to be ENS controls as needed 512 00:27:10,133 --> 00:27:11,767 for, for that. 513 00:27:12,367 --> 00:27:15,500 But other than that, everything else would be in controlled. 514 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:19,000 There'll be risk controls for, for that grading, 515 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,867 but it's going back into the slope there. 516 00:27:21,066 --> 00:27:23,333 So probably just be hitting rock 517 00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:25,066 and trying to get, get through the rock in 518 00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:26,266 that area is what I'm assuming. 519 00:27:28,266 --> 00:27:30,367 - Okay, thank you. So, 520 00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:33,767 - So I have some mixed opinions on this. 521 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,533 Yeah, I I, I disagree with my colleagues on the need 522 00:27:37,634 --> 00:27:38,634 for sidewalk there. 523 00:27:38,767 --> 00:27:41,767 I do believe this area is becoming more 524 00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:46,934 traversed by non vehicle pedestrians, particularly 525 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,367 cycling enthusiasts. 526 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:52,533 I have also seen, 'cause I I live very close. 527 00:27:52,533 --> 00:27:54,700 Well you and I we're neighbors, so you know, this area 528 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:57,467 I have increasingly seen people, 529 00:27:58,066 --> 00:28:01,333 younger people especially on foot in and around that area. 530 00:28:01,634 --> 00:28:04,233 I mean this high school is not too far from there. 531 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,100 I guess some people are going there for exercise or whatnot. 532 00:28:08,867 --> 00:28:10,467 I had, you know, sort 533 00:28:10,467 --> 00:28:12,333 of contemplated running that road myself. 534 00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:17,333 Right. So it's a, it is a geographically, 535 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:21,000 I I understand that it is, you know, 536 00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:24,634 not an easy, it's, it is a very severe curve. 537 00:28:24,834 --> 00:28:27,867 It's, it can give you whiplash even if you try driving more 538 00:28:27,867 --> 00:28:29,333 than 25 miles per hours on it. 539 00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:32,867 Right. So I understand that the technical challenges of it, 540 00:28:33,367 --> 00:28:34,734 but I dispute the idea 541 00:28:34,734 --> 00:28:37,300 that it's not being used in a pedestrians 542 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:39,734 by pedestrians going through that area. 543 00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:41,767 I see it all the time and you know, like there's 544 00:28:41,767 --> 00:28:43,934 that house up there with the school bus 545 00:28:43,934 --> 00:28:45,000 and there's kids coming up 546 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,333 and down that road all the time now. 547 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,233 So I, I don't know, I'm just gonna, I just, 548 00:28:49,734 --> 00:28:51,500 I anecdotally I'm gonna dispute 549 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:52,500 - That. 550 00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:56,867 Okay. Yeah. Peggy, no, I, I don't, 551 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,300 I don't have anything, any questions. 552 00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:03,133 Okay. No. Okay. I have some questions on the storm water. 553 00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:05,100 - Okay. - Okay. 554 00:29:05,133 --> 00:29:08,066 If you take a look at page two 555 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,266 of the plan 556 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:19,033 or if we go to, yeah, 557 00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,133 I'm just gonna use page two of the plan. 558 00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:25,467 Okay. And look at where the 559 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,634 bank form is supposed to go. 560 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:34,734 You have a, it goes from 1100 feet 561 00:29:35,233 --> 00:29:38,066 all the way down to about 562 00:29:39,166 --> 00:29:40,300 say 10 60. 563 00:29:41,266 --> 00:29:44,066 So that's about a 40 foot drop in breed. 564 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:48,033 - Yeah. - Which means all the water comes down the hill. 565 00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:50,100 - Yeah. - Okay. 566 00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:54,467 Which means it can go either all the way down the hill, 567 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,266 across the street, into the creek, 568 00:29:57,734 --> 00:30:00,133 into the properties on the other side of the street. 569 00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:06,266 The detention pond. That's gonna be underground. 570 00:30:07,367 --> 00:30:09,533 - Yeah. - Okay. Slow release. 571 00:30:10,734 --> 00:30:12,934 - Yeah. It, it basically will be infiltrating 572 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:14,634 to the ground. Yes. Okay. 573 00:30:15,133 --> 00:30:20,066 - Now does it catch and is it a catch and then release or? 574 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:24,266 - I'd probably have to check it there. 575 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,367 I I think it's in, it's an infiltration base 576 00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:28,000 and I mean if an underground 577 00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:30,867 that it'd be going into the ground and, 578 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,700 but it's also holding it, it has pipes that 579 00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:36,000 - It it does infiltration and detention. 580 00:30:36,066 --> 00:30:39,567 - Yeah, - Exactly. Okay. So it's gonna be slow release. 581 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Yeah. Okay. 582 00:30:41,367 --> 00:30:45,500 Not and okay, also the piping coming down, 583 00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:48,467 is that a lane that's gonna go up there where 584 00:30:48,467 --> 00:30:49,734 that other piping is? Yeah, 585 00:30:49,734 --> 00:30:50,734 - Yeah. 586 00:30:50,734 --> 00:30:53,467 I I If you could go go to that stormwater plant that 587 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,767 the gradient plan, I think that's five. 588 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,066 - Okay, - Next one, five. 589 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,100 - Yeah, there - We go. 590 00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:15,700 - So that's also gonna catch water coming down this. Yeah, 591 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,133 - We have a swale around that goes down, 592 00:31:17,567 --> 00:31:18,767 there's an inlet here 593 00:31:20,333 --> 00:31:24,767 and that's gonna catch the water there. 594 00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:28,500 The roof system and all the roof drains 595 00:31:29,166 --> 00:31:33,066 are going to go down into 596 00:31:33,667 --> 00:31:35,734 - The, the catch basin - There. Yep. 597 00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:39,767 - And the trench does that, where does that go? 598 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,300 - That's the same thing. 599 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:44,767 That's basically as a infiltration trench. 600 00:31:45,467 --> 00:31:46,834 Ultimately the release from these, 601 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,066 like a basin has an outlet structure. 602 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,333 The release from these goes down 603 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,033 right here, I think along the right of way if I recall, 604 00:31:57,033 --> 00:32:00,066 but Right, right there is where the outlet structure is. 605 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,100 - Okay. So, alright. 606 00:32:03,266 --> 00:32:06,300 - So they, it is like a storm water. 607 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:10,533 I can, a basin has a outlet structure to infiltrates, 608 00:32:10,567 --> 00:32:14,266 but when it gets too high, that is the area 609 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:15,567 that it can get released. 610 00:32:16,033 --> 00:32:20,266 And that is the same thing here to here to there. Okay. 611 00:32:20,266 --> 00:32:24,333 And there and there's existing square in that area. Alright. 612 00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:29,333 - Alright. And we still, 613 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,266 that hasn't been approved yet 614 00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:34,066 or does that to go through the, 615 00:32:34,734 --> 00:32:36,467 what code does that to go through Donna? 616 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,300 - The storm water? Yeah, it'll, it, it'll be an NPDS as well 617 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:42,367 as an ENS plan. 618 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:47,533 - Okay. So basically we still have to get proof of evidence 619 00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:52,467 that the EENS is approved by Conservation District yet. 620 00:32:52,467 --> 00:32:54,467 - Correct. That they're usually months behind. 621 00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:57,066 - And the stormwater access 622 00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:59,700 and maintenance agreement, we don't 623 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:00,834 have approval for that yet. 624 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,367 - No, we, we pretty much wait till Stormwater's approved 625 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:07,000 because, so we get the latest plan 626 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,533 is attached to the agreement. 627 00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:10,266 - Okay. So we still have those 628 00:33:10,567 --> 00:33:11,567 - Approvals yet. 629 00:33:11,567 --> 00:33:12,066 Yeah, that's typical. 630 00:33:12,767 --> 00:33:15,066 - Okay. Alright. 631 00:33:15,166 --> 00:33:19,500 Does anybody in the audience have any questions? Mr. Chair? 632 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,133 Don't forget Matt. Oh, Matt, do you have anything? 633 00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:26,300 No, I'm good, thank you. All right. He's on drugs. Okay. 634 00:33:27,567 --> 00:33:29,567 - I - Do. Okay. Could you come to the podium, 635 00:33:29,734 --> 00:33:32,033 state your name and then 636 00:33:33,033 --> 00:33:35,033 raise any questions you may have. Okay, 637 00:33:35,033 --> 00:33:36,033 - Thank you. 638 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:43,233 - Alright. My name is Gail Biddle 639 00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:47,567 and I own the farm next across their lane 640 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:50,000 that the Sahakian property. 641 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,634 My concern of course is the water runoff. 642 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:00,867 Well we've lived, we are a generational family living 643 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000 on our family farm. 644 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:07,266 And so for years when Ralph Neff would've been one 645 00:34:07,266 --> 00:34:09,066 of the original owners we were, we used 646 00:34:09,066 --> 00:34:10,567 to help him farm the farm. 647 00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:12,834 And we're very familiar with 648 00:34:12,867 --> 00:34:15,033 how steep the grade is on that road. 649 00:34:17,266 --> 00:34:19,333 So it's very concerning. 650 00:34:19,834 --> 00:34:22,266 And then when you take all those trees away, 651 00:34:23,066 --> 00:34:25,934 now you've got this space 652 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:28,133 for water to just run. 653 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,634 And I realize you were discussing the plan 654 00:34:33,734 --> 00:34:38,066 to hold everything in place, but it's still a big concern. 655 00:34:39,233 --> 00:34:42,333 I am Joe Humphrey's niece, so I'm very concerned 656 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,133 for his property. 657 00:34:46,066 --> 00:34:50,333 And of course Spring Creek growing up with my Uncle Joe. 658 00:34:51,033 --> 00:34:53,634 Spring Creek's a very important part of our life. 659 00:34:55,433 --> 00:34:58,033 And we live in the stone house next to him. 660 00:34:58,266 --> 00:35:00,066 And so the creek runs behind. 661 00:35:00,867 --> 00:35:03,533 So as it is a very important part of our life. 662 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,867 So that's a very big concern. 663 00:35:07,834 --> 00:35:10,266 What could runoff could go into the crick 664 00:35:10,767 --> 00:35:15,033 because on the other side of that hill next 665 00:35:15,033 --> 00:35:19,000 to the quarry, it borders the crick their property. 666 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,467 So, you know, is the changing of 667 00:35:24,066 --> 00:35:25,333 that whole side hill 668 00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:29,700 and the top is that going to also change some water flow 669 00:35:30,233 --> 00:35:33,867 coming down on the other side into the prick? 670 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,567 So that is a concern. 671 00:35:38,667 --> 00:35:43,500 And also down along, 672 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,700 I guess it would be their, their road. 673 00:35:48,567 --> 00:35:51,934 But when that, where that steep road is, 674 00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:54,000 it comes down off the hill, well that was, 675 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,533 that will run right into the corner of my property. 676 00:35:57,333 --> 00:36:00,266 So I'm concerned about that runoff coming into my field. 677 00:36:00,734 --> 00:36:03,333 Okay. And so that's a big concern. 678 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 I would certainly wanna be assured that that was addressed 679 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:11,367 and would not be a problem for me. 680 00:36:13,033 --> 00:36:14,233 - Okay. - Okay. 681 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,100 - Thank you Don. Do we have our Township engineer here 682 00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:23,100 and they've been talking with the engineer so 683 00:36:24,133 --> 00:36:25,900 - Well Yeah, the assistant engineer 684 00:36:25,934 --> 00:36:27,166 has reviewed the storm water. 685 00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:29,500 He feels it, it meets the requirements. 686 00:36:29,867 --> 00:36:33,467 It still is going through DEP review 687 00:36:33,834 --> 00:36:38,166 and whether they come up with any new comments or not, 688 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,867 but I mean, the way the project is designed, 689 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:44,066 it is supposed to take care of that. 690 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:47,900 - Okay. - Like says, I'll go back 691 00:36:47,934 --> 00:36:50,266 and since I, I'm not as familiar with it is 692 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,033 the person worked work on. 693 00:36:53,233 --> 00:36:56,734 But actually your may I just check to make sure ultimately 694 00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,233 that the driver, like you said, that that does come down 695 00:36:59,867 --> 00:37:02,367 and we do catch that water coming 696 00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:04,233 - Down because it's right on the corner of my property 697 00:37:04,333 --> 00:37:05,734 and it's, it's, it's a perfect, 698 00:37:06,033 --> 00:37:07,700 it's the perfect thing to Yeah, 699 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:08,700 - Right under my field. 700 00:37:09,467 --> 00:37:11,266 I know we, we do have inlet there from the, 701 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:12,433 from the under storm. 702 00:37:12,533 --> 00:37:14,734 Our system just gotta make sure that 703 00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:16,500 that captures everything going down. 704 00:37:17,033 --> 00:37:19,834 Right. We have to sum that a little bit lower 705 00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:22,834 to caught with great elevation. 706 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:25,133 - And my other questions, is the barn, is 707 00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:28,000 that gonna have horse stalls or is an indoor rising 708 00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:29,133 - Ring? 709 00:37:29,233 --> 00:37:31,033 It is in the riding lane. Okay. 710 00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:33,734 - So there'll be, there won't be no stalls in it, 711 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,367 it's just gonna be an indoor riding, is that correct? And 712 00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:38,867 - Then there's doors, like overhead doors all 713 00:37:38,867 --> 00:37:41,066 along this side here? Yeah. 714 00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:43,433 - Okay. - And it's not gonna be open 715 00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:44,900 to the public either. No's 716 00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:45,900 - Private. 717 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:49,333 - It's private. - Private. Okay. Great. Thank you. 718 00:37:50,767 --> 00:37:54,367 - Yep, you're welcome. Okay. 719 00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:59,634 Since this is a preliminary file 720 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:03,100 and you've heard all the concerns 721 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,700 and all that, do I have a recommendation for approval? 722 00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:12,700 Anybody wanna volunteer? 723 00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:17,700 Probably once or twice. 724 00:38:18,133 --> 00:38:22,133 - Could we, could, could it be postponed for the addressing 725 00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,634 of these concerns before it comes for approval again? 726 00:38:26,867 --> 00:38:30,900 - Well, basically the stormwater DEP has to come back 727 00:38:31,233 --> 00:38:35,500 and in our recommendation here, there has to be an approval 728 00:38:35,734 --> 00:38:37,133 and evidence 729 00:38:37,133 --> 00:38:41,033 that all the stormwater management has been approved by DEP. 730 00:38:42,066 --> 00:38:45,467 Okay. Also, the ENS control has 731 00:38:45,467 --> 00:38:47,000 to be approved by the conservation. 732 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,100 If they don't get those approvals, 733 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:53,300 then our approval goes away. Isn't that correct? 734 00:38:53,467 --> 00:38:58,033 - Right. - So basically the concerns that were voiced here 735 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:01,033 are now being worked on. 736 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:03,367 If there's comments from DEP 737 00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:08,100 or anything else, then the develop the developer 738 00:39:08,166 --> 00:39:11,834 or the engineers for the property owner would have 739 00:39:11,934 --> 00:39:14,734 to make the necessary changes to the plan. 740 00:39:15,367 --> 00:39:17,700 The plan would've to come back in for approval. 741 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,734 'cause that would be either a minor or major. 742 00:39:21,533 --> 00:39:24,300 - Yeah, depend, depending on the nature of the any changes, 743 00:39:24,634 --> 00:39:26,000 it could be a major, 744 00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:28,233 but it would, if it is, I think, you know, 745 00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:30,734 we're comfortable enough to say 746 00:39:30,734 --> 00:39:34,500 that we've addressed those comments or, or those concerns. 747 00:39:34,934 --> 00:39:36,734 Those are the kind of concerns we look at 748 00:39:36,767 --> 00:39:38,000 when we're doing the review. 749 00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:44,000 But sometimes things come up we we're not aware of. 750 00:39:47,834 --> 00:39:49,100 - Do we want to table this 751 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:51,266 or do you want to make an approval? 752 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,767 I'm asking the committee. Matt, do you have any 753 00:39:58,767 --> 00:39:59,767 - Opinion on that? 754 00:39:59,767 --> 00:40:01,634 No, I, I'd be, well I'd be willing to make an approval, 755 00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:04,100 but I don't have the, I mean, to make a motion for approval. 756 00:40:04,166 --> 00:40:05,166 I just don't have the sheet. 757 00:40:05,166 --> 00:40:08,634 So, and somebody allowed to read it in my place. 758 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,667 - Okay. Do I have a second to what Matt's saying? 759 00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:18,834 I have a second from Peggy. Okay. Matt. I'll read it. 760 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,667 - Thank you. - Okay. 761 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:27,000 This is from College Township Planning Commission dated 762 00:40:27,567 --> 00:40:30,834 July 21st, 2026. 763 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,567 Motion by Matt, seconded by Peggy. 764 00:40:34,734 --> 00:40:37,066 Recommend to counsel for approval. 765 00:40:38,033 --> 00:40:41,834 The the oak call at Christian Facility 766 00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:46,834 Planning or preliminary final land development plan dated 767 00:40:46,934 --> 00:40:48,433 June, 2226, 768 00:40:49,166 --> 00:40:52,000 last revised July 13th, 26. 769 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,133 Subject to the following conditions, 770 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:58,000 within 90 days from the date of approval by counsel, 771 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:00,166 all conditions must be satisfied. 772 00:41:00,166 --> 00:41:03,433 Final signatures must be obtained, plan must be recorded 773 00:41:03,433 --> 00:41:06,000 with the Centre County Recorder of deeds. 774 00:41:06,133 --> 00:41:08,066 Failure to meet the 90 day 775 00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:11,266 recording time requirement will render a plan 776 00:41:11,266 --> 00:41:15,333 and all void, pay all outstanding review fees, address 777 00:41:15,367 --> 00:41:17,634 to the satisfaction of the Township engineer 778 00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:19,300 any outstanding plan. 779 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:23,133 Review comments from staff fully comply 780 00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:24,333 with the college Township. 781 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:29,066 Section code section 180 dash 12 post shorty 782 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,000 as approved by the Township engineer prior to recording. 783 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,934 Record approved declaration of stormwater access 784 00:41:36,934 --> 00:41:40,567 and maintenance easement prior to recording the plan. 785 00:41:41,367 --> 00:41:43,934 Provide evidence of the erosion 786 00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:47,266 and sediment control consistent from 787 00:41:48,033 --> 00:41:49,767 consistency from the 788 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:54,333 Centre County Con Conservation District. 789 00:41:56,734 --> 00:42:00,100 Recommend to counsel Okay. 790 00:42:00,533 --> 00:42:04,233 Approval of the Sidewalk Waiver recommended by staff. 791 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,834 All conditions must be accepted in writing within seven days 792 00:42:08,834 --> 00:42:11,700 from the date of the conditional approval letter from 793 00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:12,834 the Township engineer. 794 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,300 Okay, that's the motion on the table. 795 00:42:19,133 --> 00:42:22,333 All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. 796 00:42:22,634 --> 00:42:24,300 Aye. All opposed? 797 00:42:25,133 --> 00:42:27,533 - Aye. - Okay. The votes four to one. 798 00:42:27,567 --> 00:42:32,033 It's approved as of this point. 799 00:42:36,133 --> 00:42:37,867 - Thank you. - Yep, you're welcome. Thank you. 800 00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:51,467 Okay, the next thing on the agenda is a 801 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,100 minor re revision 802 00:42:54,233 --> 00:42:57,233 to a preliminary final land development plan 803 00:42:58,133 --> 00:43:01,333 for the Villages villas at Happy Valley. 804 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:06,300 Do I have anybody here that are, is going to 805 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,934 outline this preliminary revision? 806 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:12,000 - Yeah, I can start off 807 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,133 but Theo Wing is here to 808 00:43:15,333 --> 00:43:17,066 provide you more information. 809 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,100 This is a minor plan. 810 00:43:19,634 --> 00:43:22,000 Typically the planning commission doesn't see minor plans, 811 00:43:22,166 --> 00:43:24,500 but if there is a reason that staff feels 812 00:43:24,533 --> 00:43:26,500 that it should come in front of planning commission 813 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,233 or counsel, the Zoning officer can use his discretion 814 00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:31,333 and bring that in front of you. 815 00:43:31,634 --> 00:43:34,066 Okay. So that's where we are tonight. So 816 00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:43,567 - Did you wanna state your name and 817 00:43:43,867 --> 00:43:44,867 - Yeah. 818 00:43:44,867 --> 00:43:49,133 P ku I am, I'm working with this, 819 00:43:49,166 --> 00:43:51,867 my own consulting company called las 820 00:43:53,133 --> 00:43:58,066 and I'm working as well with ha Baker engineers who prepared 821 00:43:58,066 --> 00:44:01,834 to plan and with Alter, 822 00:44:02,033 --> 00:44:04,066 which is a landscape contracting company. 823 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:05,634 And then of course the owners. 824 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,634 So should I go ahead and grab this? 825 00:44:08,634 --> 00:44:12,100 - Yeah, - This is just 826 00:44:12,166 --> 00:44:13,867 the existing plan. 827 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,867 If you, the first page here, 828 00:44:19,133 --> 00:44:20,367 - Lemme get the full screen. 829 00:44:20,734 --> 00:44:21,767 - Yes sir. Okay. 830 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,133 - So there's an existing plan 831 00:44:24,133 --> 00:44:25,500 that's recorded at the courthouse. 832 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,100 And we have a small section of this property 833 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,767 that the owners want to put in a pickleball court, a patio, 834 00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,834 a pergola, and a drill and a fire pit. 835 00:44:38,033 --> 00:44:40,066 So if you go down to the next page, 836 00:44:43,567 --> 00:44:45,834 so the, the area, there's a volley sand 837 00:44:45,834 --> 00:44:47,133 volleyball court here currently. 838 00:44:48,367 --> 00:44:51,300 So they want to basically put the pickleball court in 839 00:44:51,634 --> 00:44:52,734 this general location. 840 00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:56,066 It's on the corner of, I believe this is driverless. 841 00:44:56,433 --> 00:45:00,233 There's a car dealership across the road 842 00:45:01,066 --> 00:45:03,533 and then there's a neighborhood on the backside here. 843 00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:07,033 And then these are just, this is the existing facility 844 00:45:07,033 --> 00:45:09,033 that's already there, that's already 845 00:45:09,033 --> 00:45:10,700 been recorded at the courthouse. 846 00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:12,700 You go to the next page. 847 00:45:15,834 --> 00:45:20,033 So the owners want to put in a, 848 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,266 a court, a single court, they want 849 00:45:23,266 --> 00:45:26,133 to have a walkway coming from the, the parking lot 850 00:45:27,133 --> 00:45:29,700 and a pa a patio here. 851 00:45:29,734 --> 00:45:33,567 It's stamped concrete. This is the pergola. 852 00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:37,467 It's, I believe it's, I wanna say it's in 853 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,133 that view. 854 00:45:39,734 --> 00:45:43,500 It looks like it's about, I wanna say 12 by 12. 855 00:45:44,266 --> 00:45:47,467 And this has, this will be submitted for the 856 00:45:48,333 --> 00:45:50,834 building permit if we get approval for you guys. 857 00:45:51,634 --> 00:45:55,133 And then this is the stone fire pit 858 00:45:55,133 --> 00:45:56,266 and then there's some grills here. 859 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,634 There's pretty fairly minimal grading coming down. 860 00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:04,000 So you can see the existing contours kind of and light. 861 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,066 Great. Come here. So we're just basically putting some small 862 00:46:07,166 --> 00:46:09,634 swales next to it, A 863 00:46:09,634 --> 00:46:12,367 little a catch area. 864 00:46:13,233 --> 00:46:16,233 The drain that then drains water comes off 865 00:46:16,266 --> 00:46:21,066 of here in the court through this small trench area 866 00:46:21,066 --> 00:46:22,266 that then flows down 867 00:46:22,867 --> 00:46:27,834 and kind of say drains to the surface 868 00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:29,100 and then into the inlet. 869 00:46:30,033 --> 00:46:34,100 There's a detention basin kind of up above here 870 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:38,367 that's existing that the water will mostly drain into 871 00:46:39,266 --> 00:46:42,734 besides the, you know, whatever infiltrates. 872 00:46:43,166 --> 00:46:45,000 And then the, for retaining, 873 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,934 the only thing we really have here is these limestone 874 00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:50,000 boulders, which also also act as seating. 875 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:53,500 There's a, a chain link fence around it 876 00:46:54,834 --> 00:46:56,233 and some more seating. 877 00:46:56,233 --> 00:46:58,266 So that's pretty much the extent of it. 878 00:46:58,734 --> 00:47:00,867 The, the engineers, I don't know if 879 00:47:02,033 --> 00:47:04,066 anyone from Hall Baker's on the line or not. 880 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,266 Let's see. No, no. Okay. 881 00:47:07,266 --> 00:47:09,467 They did all the stormwater calcs to make sure 882 00:47:10,033 --> 00:47:12,934 that it wasn't gonna add too much to the basins. 883 00:47:12,934 --> 00:47:14,266 And I think they already submitted it 884 00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:16,367 to you guys for review. 885 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,533 I don't know if we have any. I haven't 886 00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:20,500 seen, I think Jerry did. Oh, okay. 887 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:21,867 - And the plan's been under review. 888 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,367 Our comments are due, I believe next Friday. Yeah. 889 00:47:24,367 --> 00:47:25,567 So you'll receive those. 890 00:47:26,467 --> 00:47:28,767 But yeah, the storm water is currently being reviewed. 891 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,767 - Okay. So that's about the extent of it. 892 00:47:35,066 --> 00:47:36,300 I don't know. Okay. 893 00:47:36,433 --> 00:47:39,567 - You got questions? So, so basically this is just 894 00:47:40,133 --> 00:47:43,567 to take the volleyball courts out that aren't used, 895 00:47:45,667 --> 00:47:49,467 put in a pickleball court, put in a patio, put in a fire pit 896 00:47:50,166 --> 00:47:54,066 and put some sidewalks from the existing 897 00:47:55,233 --> 00:47:58,066 apartments or townhouses to get there. 898 00:47:59,066 --> 00:48:02,066 And there will be some catch basins 899 00:48:02,233 --> 00:48:05,100 and then drainage back to the detention pond. 900 00:48:06,867 --> 00:48:10,467 And once you guys look at the plans 901 00:48:10,734 --> 00:48:13,567 and also everything else, then that's up 902 00:48:13,567 --> 00:48:15,000 to staff where you could do the 903 00:48:15,033 --> 00:48:16,033 - Approval. 904 00:48:16,033 --> 00:48:16,634 Yes. 905 00:48:17,767 --> 00:48:19,567 - Does anybody have any questions on that? 906 00:48:20,567 --> 00:48:22,000 It just came to our attention 907 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,934 to make sure we know what's going on 908 00:48:25,233 --> 00:48:28,700 and really there's nothing for us to approve here 909 00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,767 'cause it's, we've been staff's prerogative to approve. 910 00:48:33,367 --> 00:48:36,033 - Exactly. We're just bringing it to your attention 911 00:48:37,367 --> 00:48:40,100 and we're looking for input. 912 00:48:40,467 --> 00:48:43,734 Our next step will be to 913 00:48:44,867 --> 00:48:46,033 post the property 914 00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:52,100 and that will allow the residents to be notified of the plan 915 00:48:52,734 --> 00:48:55,634 because it's a minor, we don't typically require that. 916 00:48:56,233 --> 00:48:59,700 But you know, as per discussions we had at the staff level, 917 00:48:59,734 --> 00:49:02,634 that was the way forward recommended. So, 918 00:49:03,567 --> 00:49:07,533 - And basically the villas surrounds the pickleball courts, 919 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,734 if I remember the geographics 920 00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,066 - E the two, what is the development? 921 00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:17,000 - There's a, there's a development. What is that? 922 00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,333 If you're looking at that to the immediate left of the, the 923 00:49:22,033 --> 00:49:24,934 proposed pickleball court that runs into residential. 924 00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:28,934 - Okay. Just - Down here if it's appropriate. 925 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:30,233 I don't know if I could ask Mr. 926 00:49:30,934 --> 00:49:34,100 Twang, if you could maybe describe 927 00:49:34,233 --> 00:49:38,533 to the planning commission a little bit of what you plan 928 00:49:38,533 --> 00:49:42,266 to do to sort of shield this help with the sound issues 929 00:49:42,834 --> 00:49:43,934 and the site issues. 930 00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:48,133 That's, that's generally the reason 931 00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:51,000 because pickleball is getting a bad rap 932 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,367 around the US right now. 933 00:49:52,734 --> 00:49:55,333 Yeah. So that's why we wanted 934 00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:59,000 to get the planning commission's eyes on this as well, just 935 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,700 to see if they had any other suggestions. 936 00:50:00,734 --> 00:50:02,033 But be appreciated. 937 00:50:02,133 --> 00:50:04,066 If you could explain it, you know, 938 00:50:04,066 --> 00:50:05,266 nothing's showing in this plan, 939 00:50:05,333 --> 00:50:07,367 but explain what you intend to do 940 00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:09,500 to help mitigate potential issues. 941 00:50:09,767 --> 00:50:12,033 - Yeah, I think that the main concern is the noise. 942 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:13,634 Typically, 943 00:50:18,033 --> 00:50:20,166 you know, I don't, I'm not a hundred percent sure of the 944 00:50:20,834 --> 00:50:24,033 plant things themselves with an evergreen screen would, 945 00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:27,567 it would more scatter the sound. 946 00:50:28,033 --> 00:50:32,567 I would say maybe not reduce the, the, the decibels, 947 00:50:32,667 --> 00:50:36,500 but we would be happy, you know, to put in a, 948 00:50:36,834 --> 00:50:39,000 an evergreen screen if that's something that you guys 949 00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:40,100 - Want. 950 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:41,333 Yeah. Because the plan doesn't show any screening. 951 00:50:42,567 --> 00:50:46,333 The plan doesn't show like a, that shows a fence 952 00:50:46,467 --> 00:50:50,300 but there's no screening on the fence to in, to 953 00:50:51,266 --> 00:50:54,000 dampen the sound once it's posted. 954 00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,834 I'm sure you that the other neighbors are gonna probably 955 00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,700 say, you know, sound isn't going to be, 956 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,133 there's no lighting on this. 957 00:51:03,634 --> 00:51:07,634 Right. Yeah. Okay. So it's gonna be day use only. Yes. 958 00:51:07,834 --> 00:51:09,867 So basically I think the sound 959 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,634 and the noise is going to be what's brought up. 960 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,000 So there may be shielding or, 961 00:51:16,133 --> 00:51:20,266 or something that you may get at a later approval 962 00:51:21,166 --> 00:51:23,500 as a minor from staff. 963 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:28,100 - Are, are those adjacent buildings and residential? 964 00:51:28,166 --> 00:51:30,000 Are they, how many stories are those? 965 00:51:32,166 --> 00:51:34,834 - Three, - Two or three? They have two. The 966 00:51:34,834 --> 00:51:35,834 - Neighborhood next door. 967 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,767 Yeah. Yeah. There's single family homes. 968 00:51:37,767 --> 00:51:40,300 - Single family. Yeah. - Oh, that way, okay. Yeah, 969 00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,066 - Because the is - The ones, I'm sorry, 970 00:51:43,066 --> 00:51:44,367 the ones over here are two stories though. 971 00:51:44,367 --> 00:51:46,867 Like these are two stories at tenant that are here. Yeah, 972 00:51:46,934 --> 00:51:48,133 - The sound is gonna travel up. 973 00:51:48,266 --> 00:51:51,000 Yeah. Right. So the people, the higher you are, 974 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,033 the louder it's gonna get up. 975 00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:55,934 - So we did, if you recall the, 976 00:51:57,867 --> 00:52:01,000 the country club plan when they were proposing pickleball 977 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,767 courts, the council thought about 978 00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:07,100 or we believe we did send to the Borough 979 00:52:07,834 --> 00:52:10,867 some mitigation efforts that they could consider when 980 00:52:11,033 --> 00:52:12,500 that goes in on their end. 981 00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,066 Since we've reviewed the plan concurrently with the Borough. 982 00:52:15,467 --> 00:52:18,533 So with the response letter, we're gonna add a few 983 00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:19,700 of those suggestions in. 984 00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:24,066 - Okay. Could the pickleball court be moved like within this 985 00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,100 like not, 'cause right now is it a one for one kind 986 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:30,333 of just transfer from the cent volleyball courts? 987 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000 So could it, could it be sort of considered 988 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,834 to possibly move a little further away since 989 00:52:36,066 --> 00:52:38,367 you have that location? Or maybe 990 00:52:38,634 --> 00:52:40,133 - There's not a lot of room there. I 991 00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:41,133 - Know, I know. 992 00:52:41,133 --> 00:52:42,033 It's just like how tight? 993 00:52:42,033 --> 00:52:43,533 Yeah, because the way it is right now, 994 00:52:43,734 --> 00:52:45,333 I mean like if you look at it, it's like right there 995 00:52:45,634 --> 00:52:47,767 that's like almost like a sound chamber kind like a, 996 00:52:48,467 --> 00:52:50,266 - I mean if you go up 997 00:52:50,266 --> 00:52:54,100 and look at where the volleyball occurred is now, okay, 998 00:52:54,634 --> 00:52:55,700 it's right there. 999 00:52:56,166 --> 00:52:59,834 There's no room to move it left right 1000 00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:01,734 front or back. 1001 00:53:02,133 --> 00:53:04,100 It's almost like a replacement. 1002 00:53:04,834 --> 00:53:08,033 And it's not a hundred percent replacement volleyball court 1003 00:53:08,367 --> 00:53:11,934 because they're also gonna put a patio and a fire pit in. 1004 00:53:12,133 --> 00:53:16,266 So it's really a new use of land 1005 00:53:16,266 --> 00:53:17,500 that's not being utilized 1006 00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:19,500 - Basically. 1007 00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,934 I mean from visiting there it looks like it's mostly used 1008 00:53:22,934 --> 00:53:25,033 for like kids that go like play with the sand. 1009 00:53:25,166 --> 00:53:26,834 Yeah. The next tennis. 1010 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000 But I, I don't know, I'm not watching it all the time. 1011 00:53:29,233 --> 00:53:33,333 But yes, we, the one thing we did change was the rotation. 1012 00:53:34,066 --> 00:53:36,734 'cause the volleyball courts were like this, which you would 1013 00:53:37,166 --> 00:53:39,867 technically be staring this, this is north 1014 00:53:40,166 --> 00:53:42,000 so you'd be staring into the sunset. 1015 00:53:42,734 --> 00:53:44,266 So we wanted to rotate a little bit 1016 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,867 and that kind of helps direct the sound. 1017 00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:51,867 Most of the sound's gonna be traveling like this typically 1018 00:53:52,066 --> 00:53:54,000 'cause you hit the paddle that way or that way. 1019 00:53:54,266 --> 00:53:56,300 So it's gonna be going up here or down there. 1020 00:53:56,934 --> 00:54:00,100 Mostly I think that we'll say 1021 00:54:01,033 --> 00:54:02,100 the homes are kind 1022 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,767 of like more in this general area over here. 1023 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,033 And then of course you have these, the tenants there. If 1024 00:54:09,033 --> 00:54:10,533 - You have, if you see Burnell Park, 1025 00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,133 the pickleball courts there, 1026 00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:14,567 the gates are just a suggestion. 1027 00:54:14,667 --> 00:54:16,300 Take a look at what they do at Burnell Park. 1028 00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:18,700 The, they're very, very tall gates 1029 00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,233 with padding. Shout out. 1030 00:54:22,433 --> 00:54:24,300 - That's one of the recommendations in 1031 00:54:24,433 --> 00:54:25,500 the mitigation factors. 1032 00:54:25,834 --> 00:54:28,000 Yeah. With the planning commission states tonight. 1033 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,634 We'll put in our comment letter. Okay. 1034 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,233 - Yeah. - I actually have a couple questions. 1035 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,266 - Go ahead. - First of all, 1036 00:54:35,333 --> 00:54:40,066 is there gonna be any time limits Is the, when did the, 1037 00:54:40,066 --> 00:54:41,066 that court can be used? 1038 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,300 I mean I look pretty close to, you know, 1039 00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,834 to Dale view pickleball court sometimes people are out there 1040 00:54:46,834 --> 00:54:47,934 at seven o'clock in the morning. 1041 00:54:49,367 --> 00:54:51,567 - Yeah, I think we would, we would basically try 1042 00:54:51,567 --> 00:54:54,233 to follow whatever is recommended in your noise Ordinance. 1043 00:54:55,233 --> 00:54:57,867 I think it's like maybe nine to 1044 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,133 eight or something like that. 1045 00:55:00,867 --> 00:55:03,066 Post it on the, go ahead 1046 00:55:03,066 --> 00:55:06,567 and post that on, on the signage, on the pickleball court 1047 00:55:06,734 --> 00:55:07,867 and talk with the owners 1048 00:55:08,066 --> 00:55:10,834 and the operators there to manage that. 1049 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,834 And then we're gonna put in posts that use 1050 00:55:16,033 --> 00:55:18,266 the paddles, soft paddles 1051 00:55:18,266 --> 00:55:22,000 and the soft balls to try to reduce the decibel levels. 1052 00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:25,066 I don't know if there's anyone that's gonna be out there en 1053 00:55:25,066 --> 00:55:27,100 forcing it, but it, it'll be posted 1054 00:55:29,066 --> 00:55:30,767 - Outdoor, outdoor paddle ball. 1055 00:55:32,033 --> 00:55:33,634 The standard is, it's the hard, 1056 00:55:33,634 --> 00:55:35,300 it's harder than the indoor one. 1057 00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,300 - Yeah, I I think they said that you can go with the, 1058 00:55:38,433 --> 00:55:43,300 the soft, all the soft paddle just to reduce decal levels. 1059 00:55:43,767 --> 00:55:47,066 'cause I know it's an issue in other neighborhoods outdoors, 1060 00:55:47,634 --> 00:55:51,000 but I, I don't know how that works in Yeah. In comparison. 1061 00:55:51,367 --> 00:55:53,033 - Okay. Question two, is there, 1062 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:56,266 is there a homeowner's association in this development? 1063 00:55:58,266 --> 00:55:59,367 - I need to double check that. 1064 00:55:59,867 --> 00:56:04,133 I know the owners now are renting. 1065 00:56:05,133 --> 00:56:06,333 - Yeah, I think that's a, that's a 1066 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:07,867 singularly owned property. 1067 00:56:07,867 --> 00:56:11,867 Yeah, that's a, that's a rental. Yeah. That's not condoed. 1068 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,166 - It's, yeah. - Okay. 1069 00:56:13,166 --> 00:56:16,066 So there, there there'd be no input from people running it? 1070 00:56:16,133 --> 00:56:18,000 Nope. As far as the noise is concerned. No, 1071 00:56:21,166 --> 00:56:22,166 - That's correct. 1072 00:56:22,567 --> 00:56:23,634 - Not yet. - Okay. 1073 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,934 - When it is posted, they would have the opportunity. Yeah. 1074 00:56:27,266 --> 00:56:28,266 Matt, we're gonna have, 1075 00:56:29,166 --> 00:56:33,033 - Okay - Matt, just to let you know, we're gonna put up one 1076 00:56:33,033 --> 00:56:34,934 of our typical land development review 1077 00:56:35,467 --> 00:56:37,233 signs on the property. 1078 00:56:37,467 --> 00:56:39,700 So then that'll kind of notify the neighbors. 1079 00:56:40,066 --> 00:56:42,700 That was a comment too if there is an HOA 1080 00:56:42,734 --> 00:56:45,000 or a condo association to notify them. 1081 00:56:46,133 --> 00:56:48,100 But you know, we're gonna try to get 1082 00:56:48,133 --> 00:56:50,467 to get the word out with the sign. 1083 00:56:50,867 --> 00:56:53,533 - Yeah. That's a pure rental area where 1084 00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:57,500 the pickleball court's supposed to be developed 1085 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:03,500 but the neighboring development is condoed 1086 00:57:04,567 --> 00:57:07,100 and there's probably a homeowner's association in that. 1087 00:57:10,367 --> 00:57:13,467 - Okay, thank you. Yeah. And I have one question. 1088 00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:15,700 I assume that these, this court actually 1089 00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:16,867 it's a single court, correct? 1090 00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:19,467 It is, will be limited to residents 1091 00:57:19,467 --> 00:57:21,634 of the it is nit villas. It's 1092 00:57:21,634 --> 00:57:22,634 - Not common. 1093 00:57:22,634 --> 00:57:23,033 Yeah. 1094 00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,333 - So the Happy Valley villas at 1095 00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:26,333 - Happy Valley. 1096 00:57:26,333 --> 00:57:29,467 Yep. Okay. 1097 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:35,033 Alright. Okay. 1098 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,533 New business. We have none. 1099 00:57:39,133 --> 00:57:40,867 - Thank you. Thanks - Theo. Thank you. 1100 00:57:42,734 --> 00:57:45,266 - And now we'll go to Old business 1101 00:57:46,133 --> 00:57:48,100 Center Regional Planning agency, 1102 00:57:48,133 --> 00:57:50,467 the future land use MAP update. 1103 00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:56,367 And we had the first meeting 1104 00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,066 about six weeks ago. I say 1105 00:57:59,533 --> 00:58:01,233 - Maybe two May 5th. Yeah, 1106 00:58:01,667 --> 00:58:02,667 - Well that's close. 1107 00:58:02,667 --> 00:58:06,300 - That was the joint meeting. Yeah, we've been to six 1108 00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:07,700 of 'em so it's hard to Yep. 1109 00:58:07,767 --> 00:58:10,467 Seems like Yeah, we, we've been busy. 1110 00:58:10,634 --> 00:58:13,066 So my name's Pam Adams, regional planning 1111 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,767 director from Centre Region COG. 1112 00:58:16,166 --> 00:58:18,100 And basically tonight we're going 1113 00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,333 to show you a presentation. 1114 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:23,033 You have received a recap memo. 1115 00:58:23,133 --> 00:58:26,333 So as Ed was pointing out, we had a joint meeting 1116 00:58:26,333 --> 00:58:28,533 where the elected officials, your council 1117 00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:33,734 and planning commission participated in a facilitated 1118 00:58:33,734 --> 00:58:36,233 discussion on the future land use map. 1119 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,133 We've written a recap memo of what we heard, 1120 00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:45,100 we've reviewed it with staff 1121 00:58:46,333 --> 00:58:49,700 and now we're asking you, is this what you also heard? 1122 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,767 And we'll go through things related to now 1123 00:58:53,767 --> 00:58:57,100 what we're saying is that your draft future land use map, 1124 00:58:57,133 --> 00:59:00,567 there'll be three places where I'm gonna pause so 1125 00:59:00,567 --> 00:59:01,934 that you can answer questions. 1126 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:05,333 But you're always welcome to ask questions as we go. 1127 00:59:05,467 --> 00:59:09,734 But in your recap memo there is sort of the, the background 1128 00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:13,266 and process what we found from the open house. 1129 00:59:13,333 --> 00:59:15,100 If you recall there was an open house 1130 00:59:15,367 --> 00:59:17,100 prior to the joint meeting. 1131 00:59:17,934 --> 00:59:21,467 We've also had a open house prior 1132 00:59:21,467 --> 00:59:24,934 to the general forum meeting in June in which we got some 1133 00:59:24,934 --> 00:59:27,734 more feedback from college Township residents. 1134 00:59:28,133 --> 00:59:31,233 And then we've identified some areas that you've identified 1135 00:59:31,233 --> 00:59:32,634 for as future land use. 1136 00:59:33,233 --> 00:59:35,266 We've talked about long-term sewage planning. 1137 00:59:35,266 --> 00:59:37,467 If you recall there were some properties 1138 00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:39,133 that have unlocked septic 1139 00:59:39,266 --> 00:59:41,233 and have particular challenges that we want 1140 00:59:41,233 --> 00:59:43,066 to talk about recommendations. 1141 00:59:44,634 --> 00:59:49,100 And then in the packet there is a fact sheet, 1142 00:59:49,133 --> 00:59:52,233 if you remember sort of the projections on the back, 1143 00:59:52,667 --> 00:59:55,467 the red cap report community results. 1144 00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:58,233 So now I'm going to go through that. 1145 00:59:59,166 --> 01:00:04,066 If you go to the next slide, we'll sort of give an overview 1146 01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:05,066 of what we're gonna talk about. 1147 01:00:05,233 --> 01:00:07,333 So I was sort of walking you 1148 01:00:07,333 --> 01:00:09,033 through what's in your recap memo 1149 01:00:09,634 --> 01:00:13,767 and if you noticed on your table there's a, 1150 01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:17,033 this community results is the current one. 1151 01:00:17,133 --> 01:00:18,767 This one includes the open house 1152 01:00:18,767 --> 01:00:20,033 results from the general forum. 1153 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:21,066 So the one that's in your packet, 1154 01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:23,467 you can just throw out it's base. 1155 01:00:23,567 --> 01:00:26,233 It's very similar. But this one is the one I'm gonna be 1156 01:00:26,266 --> 01:00:28,533 talking about with the slides tonight. 1157 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:33,467 And we're going to also talk about the criteria 1158 01:00:34,266 --> 01:00:36,734 for future growth and shared land uses. 1159 01:00:36,834 --> 01:00:41,634 So for the recap memo summary, you can read through that. 1160 01:00:41,734 --> 01:00:45,066 But I just wanna make sure that your sense of what 1161 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,700 happened at the joint meeting was again, we presented data 1162 01:00:48,767 --> 01:00:51,567 that talked about the red cap report so 1163 01:00:51,567 --> 01:00:56,100 that in 2023 there's a regional development capacity report. 1164 01:00:56,066 --> 01:00:59,066 That report is analyzing. 1165 01:00:59,233 --> 01:01:01,867 We do this every five years to look at the 1166 01:01:02,533 --> 01:01:05,133 capacity within the regional growth boundary sewer service 1167 01:01:05,266 --> 01:01:09,333 area to make sure we have capacity for the projections 1168 01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:13,133 for Growth Centre Region has capacity 1169 01:01:13,233 --> 01:01:14,834 for the projected growth, 1170 01:01:15,333 --> 01:01:19,567 but we can't determine the build rate the markets. 1171 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:24,266 So College Township has taken the proactive approach, 1172 01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:27,033 rightfully that if 1173 01:01:27,066 --> 01:01:29,333 and when we need to expand the regional growth boundary, 1174 01:01:29,367 --> 01:01:31,533 we've identified future growth areas. 1175 01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:33,734 So we will show those as far as 1176 01:01:33,734 --> 01:01:36,066 what College Township has identified during that meeting 1177 01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,533 as future growth areas in order to 1178 01:01:40,266 --> 01:01:43,100 look at expanding the regional growth boundary sewer service 1179 01:01:43,133 --> 01:01:46,934 area, we are recommending that we look at a certain criteria 1180 01:01:47,634 --> 01:01:50,000 and I'm gonna ask for feedback on that criteria. 1181 01:01:50,634 --> 01:01:54,066 And then also the report does identify long-term 1182 01:01:54,166 --> 01:01:55,467 sewage planning issues. 1183 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,033 That basically is in several areas 1184 01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:02,000 of the Centre Region in which older properties 1185 01:02:02,033 --> 01:02:05,266 with unlocked septic might be running out 1186 01:02:05,266 --> 01:02:07,133 of room on their space to be able to do that. 1187 01:02:07,166 --> 01:02:09,233 So that's something that in 2027 1188 01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,133 after the comprehensive plan is approved, 1189 01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,100 that's probably gonna be another big project 1190 01:02:14,133 --> 01:02:16,000 that we'll start working on as far as 1191 01:02:16,433 --> 01:02:17,867 long-term sewage planning. 1192 01:02:19,734 --> 01:02:22,567 All right, so first before we get into the future growth 1193 01:02:22,567 --> 01:02:25,500 areas, let's talk about the open house results. 1194 01:02:26,634 --> 01:02:29,100 So first we have five big ideas 1195 01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,266 and the first big idea 1196 01:02:30,266 --> 01:02:32,834 that we heard from participants at the 1197 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:35,867 open houses is fostering housing variety. 1198 01:02:36,133 --> 01:02:39,634 And if you click the next button, it sort of circles 1199 01:02:39,634 --> 01:02:41,467 what the, the highlights are. 1200 01:02:42,367 --> 01:02:46,266 And again, what you see when you look at this first one is 1201 01:02:46,266 --> 01:02:50,066 that there is pretty much consistency amongst all of them. 1202 01:02:50,133 --> 01:02:51,233 But the two that kind 1203 01:02:51,233 --> 01:02:54,367 of pop out are supporting attainable housing production 1204 01:02:54,367 --> 01:02:58,066 funding and maintaining long-term housing occupancy. 1205 01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,100 So that's sort of showing where some of the properties are. 1206 01:03:01,133 --> 01:03:04,000 But because really all of them are getting, you know, 1207 01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:07,066 a fairly good distribution is showing 1208 01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:09,133 that really housing is multifaceted, right? 1209 01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:11,934 You're, you're participants who took this, 1210 01:03:12,367 --> 01:03:15,834 did this activity, recognize that for the next one, 1211 01:03:15,834 --> 01:03:19,100 if you click again, the next big idea is 1212 01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:20,066 connecting beyond cars. 1213 01:03:20,233 --> 01:03:22,066 And again, this is star just so you know, 1214 01:03:22,066 --> 01:03:25,333 like the text in the old one is a little different from this 1215 01:03:25,333 --> 01:03:27,367 one because we saw that 1216 01:03:28,066 --> 01:03:31,233 what we're seeing is the last one there again, a lot 1217 01:03:31,233 --> 01:03:34,066 of consistency across all of them. 1218 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:37,367 But the one that pops out is investing in 1219 01:03:37,367 --> 01:03:39,834 and preserving existing infrastructure. 1220 01:03:40,367 --> 01:03:44,100 So what you're hearing is from the participants is improve. 1221 01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,700 What we already have is invest in our existing communities 1222 01:03:48,567 --> 01:03:51,233 for the third big idea, which is partnering 1223 01:03:51,233 --> 01:03:52,333 for a thriving future. 1224 01:03:52,934 --> 01:03:57,033 So on the back of that, what pops out here is 1225 01:03:58,066 --> 01:04:00,367 enable regional growth through infrastructure 1226 01:04:00,567 --> 01:04:05,300 and coordination, which is part of this process 1227 01:04:05,433 --> 01:04:08,000 that we're doing for the Centre Region Comprehensive plan. 1228 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,834 And it supports that, you know, partnering 1229 01:04:10,834 --> 01:04:13,367 and working with our neighbors is an important piece of it. 1230 01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:18,467 Recognizing that the growth infrastructure 1231 01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,133 and environmental issues don't stop at municipal boundaries. 1232 01:04:22,567 --> 01:04:26,734 The fourth big idea, advancing purposeful community design. 1233 01:04:27,266 --> 01:04:29,266 This one, I did not circle one 1234 01:04:29,266 --> 01:04:31,233 because you can really see that there's a lot 1235 01:04:31,233 --> 01:04:33,934 of consistency supporting all of these. 1236 01:04:34,367 --> 01:04:38,066 But basically ones that mostly pop 1237 01:04:38,066 --> 01:04:40,467 to the top if you look at the top priority in second are 1238 01:04:40,834 --> 01:04:43,233 reinvestment and making better use 1239 01:04:43,233 --> 01:04:44,567 of existing infrastructure. 1240 01:04:44,734 --> 01:04:47,567 Again kind of relates to that transportation piece 1241 01:04:47,934 --> 01:04:49,533 of improving what we already have. 1242 01:04:50,867 --> 01:04:53,767 And then lastly, the big idea 1243 01:04:53,767 --> 01:04:55,567 of cultivating environmental stewardship. 1244 01:04:55,667 --> 01:04:58,533 This is the one that there was sort of some clear winners, 1245 01:04:58,533 --> 01:05:01,333 if you wanna say not or any of them are winners or losers. 1246 01:05:02,133 --> 01:05:05,133 But this one residents really wanted to balance 1247 01:05:05,867 --> 01:05:07,934 that future growth with conservation 1248 01:05:07,934 --> 01:05:11,467 and they place the high value on protecting water resources 1249 01:05:12,266 --> 01:05:14,634 and those important environmental assets. 1250 01:05:14,834 --> 01:05:18,934 So that those are the results that we heard 1251 01:05:18,934 --> 01:05:21,233 during the open house and those are important to remember 1252 01:05:21,233 --> 01:05:24,000 as we go through this comprehensive plan. 1253 01:05:24,634 --> 01:05:27,033 Alright, so those are the priorities 1254 01:05:27,033 --> 01:05:28,867 that we heard from the open house results. 1255 01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,066 And if you recall we had that open house 1256 01:05:32,233 --> 01:05:36,066 and then we facilitated a discussion with the council 1257 01:05:36,433 --> 01:05:37,533 and planning commission 1258 01:05:37,567 --> 01:05:39,767 and we walked through you 1259 01:05:40,233 --> 01:05:42,233 at College Township have been doing a lot 1260 01:05:42,233 --> 01:05:44,133 of work at the Dale Summit area 1261 01:05:45,133 --> 01:05:47,033 and working on Form Based Code. 1262 01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,100 So you are in a very good position to be talking about 1263 01:05:50,634 --> 01:05:53,367 where you would like to see future growth when 1264 01:05:53,367 --> 01:05:54,367 and if that would happen. 1265 01:05:55,033 --> 01:05:59,000 So here is your draft future land use map 1266 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:01,066 and this matches 1267 01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:02,934 and what we've worked with staff, 1268 01:06:03,266 --> 01:06:06,634 what you saw at the meeting representing your work 1269 01:06:06,634 --> 01:06:08,066 that you've been doing on Dale Summit. 1270 01:06:08,467 --> 01:06:12,734 And what we have go up here 1271 01:06:12,867 --> 01:06:17,634 and do this as well is your map, your piece 1272 01:06:17,634 --> 01:06:19,734 of the map will show these future land 1273 01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:22,700 Future growth areas. 1274 01:06:24,266 --> 01:06:26,500 And basically that is what we heard at the meeting 1275 01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:29,000 that you're interested in identifying future growth areas. 1276 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,533 And I'll just read what that says. 1277 01:06:32,266 --> 01:06:35,000 Future growth areas, designate locations 1278 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,700 beyond the regional growth boundary 1279 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:37,867 and sewer service area 1280 01:06:38,133 --> 01:06:41,033 that may accommodate longer term residential 1281 01:06:41,033 --> 01:06:44,033 and employment growth, including higher density 1282 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,500 and more intensive uses. 1283 01:06:45,834 --> 01:06:48,066 Should future conditions warrant expansion 1284 01:06:48,066 --> 01:06:50,634 of the regional growth boundary and sewer service area. 1285 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,100 And should infrastructure 1286 01:06:52,166 --> 01:06:55,700 and public utilities be extendable to support such growth. 1287 01:06:58,700 --> 01:06:59,867 So it's important to note 1288 01:06:59,867 --> 01:07:01,567 that those are future growth areas, right? 1289 01:07:01,567 --> 01:07:03,367 You're saying when it's time 1290 01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:06,100 to expand the regional growth boundary sewer service area, 1291 01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:08,266 you're directing the growth to those. 1292 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,300 So again, this sets the stage as I mentioned 1293 01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,333 with those on lot septic tanks that we've identified 1294 01:07:14,333 --> 01:07:15,500 as some sewage problems. 1295 01:07:16,133 --> 01:07:18,367 And then this future growth area, that's 1296 01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:22,266 where we'll be looking at what our next plan 1297 01:07:22,266 --> 01:07:23,300 for the sewage area. 1298 01:07:23,734 --> 01:07:25,700 Right now it's act 5 37 plan, 1299 01:07:26,066 --> 01:07:27,834 what those priorities should be. 1300 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,066 So I'll pause there to see if 1301 01:07:31,634 --> 01:07:33,634 this future land use map represents 1302 01:07:33,734 --> 01:07:34,867 what you heard at the meeting, 1303 01:07:35,133 --> 01:07:36,567 if you have any questions on it. 1304 01:07:45,066 --> 01:07:48,467 Because what we're gonna ask is that you are saying 1305 01:07:48,467 --> 01:07:50,233 that this represents what you heard 1306 01:07:50,333 --> 01:07:53,700 and that then it would go to counsel for their approval. 1307 01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:56,834 So if it matches what you're in agreement with 1308 01:07:56,834 --> 01:07:57,734 and you don't have any questions, 1309 01:07:57,734 --> 01:07:58,767 that would be the next step. 1310 01:08:00,233 --> 01:08:03,367 - If, - If you look at the future growth areas is 1311 01:08:05,133 --> 01:08:08,233 if you look at the 50 acres, that's up 1312 01:08:09,266 --> 01:08:11,333 where innovation park is, right? 1313 01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:14,000 The extension of innovation park out. 1314 01:08:15,166 --> 01:08:19,233 So it is like a triangle square kind 1315 01:08:19,233 --> 01:08:20,367 of thing. 1316 01:08:21,634 --> 01:08:26,000 If you look at the 43 acres where that is 1317 01:08:27,634 --> 01:08:27,867 is 1318 01:08:33,367 --> 01:08:34,467 trying to get the, 1319 01:08:37,734 --> 01:08:42,367 it's Benner Pike, so it's back in, 1320 01:08:44,133 --> 01:08:48,767 it's before the rock view area I believe 1321 01:08:51,634 --> 01:08:54,700 - The area that's up to the right there of the screen. 1322 01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:56,367 Yeah. That's the area 1323 01:08:56,533 --> 01:08:59,033 that we identified in the Dale Summit area plan 1324 01:08:59,233 --> 01:09:02,066 to eventually expand upon that rock view land 1325 01:09:02,066 --> 01:09:03,133 that's currently owned by rock view. 1326 01:09:03,133 --> 01:09:05,333 Yeah. Yeah. And that goes to our boundary. Yep. 1327 01:09:06,133 --> 01:09:09,100 - And then the last one is, 1328 01:09:10,900 --> 01:09:14,100 that's also the rock view number three, 1329 01:09:14,900 --> 01:09:16,300 - Correct? That's the rock view 1330 01:09:16,700 --> 01:09:17,700 - Property. 1331 01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:17,767 That's 415 acres. 1332 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,033 That's on the college town College Avenue side. 1333 01:09:21,834 --> 01:09:24,700 So you got Benner Pike, you got Rock View here, 1334 01:09:25,166 --> 01:09:28,333 rock View here, and then Rock View goes all the way down 1335 01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:32,033 the slope where all the nice trees are 1336 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,934 as you go out College Avenue. 1337 01:09:35,066 --> 01:09:36,533 It's past the transfer station. 1338 01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:40,500 - Correct. - To the left and the right 1339 01:09:41,066 --> 01:09:44,333 'cause that's both owned by the prison 1340 01:09:44,467 --> 01:09:48,000 and it's in College Township if you ever want 1341 01:09:48,066 --> 01:09:52,133 to take a ride, it's, and isn't there also a farm up there? 1342 01:09:54,634 --> 01:09:56,500 Did, isn't there a farm up there somewhere 1343 01:09:56,667 --> 01:09:57,934 - On the rock view land? 1344 01:09:58,300 --> 01:10:00,467 - Well before the rock view land. Oh 1345 01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:02,100 - Should we? 1346 01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:03,533 - Oh yeah, yeah. - Should 1347 01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:04,533 - Farm. 1348 01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:04,834 Yeah. Thank you. Okay. 1349 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,033 - So yeah, I think that's what we've heard. 1350 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,033 - Yeah. Which is the number two. 1351 01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:13,734 Number two, the 43 acres is the shoey farm. 1352 01:10:14,266 --> 01:10:18,266 - Yeah. Okay. - Okay. Yeah, I, I misspoke there. 1353 01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:21,634 So yeah, we have the area at the end of innovation park. 1354 01:10:21,834 --> 01:10:23,634 Yep. We have the shoey farm 1355 01:10:23,734 --> 01:10:25,634 and we also have the rock view land. 1356 01:10:25,734 --> 01:10:26,734 Yep. 1357 01:10:29,166 --> 01:10:33,834 - And then the, the sewer plan that was some of the houses 1358 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,033 that are out, out towards hou out past Houserville, 1359 01:10:38,500 --> 01:10:40,367 they'd run out towards Rock Road. 1360 01:10:40,900 --> 01:10:43,467 Correct. Where they're all still on septic, 1361 01:10:44,066 --> 01:10:46,100 that and everything. 1362 01:10:46,567 --> 01:10:49,867 There's septic that's going into, 1363 01:10:50,033 --> 01:10:52,734 there's a water line going into the Clearwater 1364 01:10:52,734 --> 01:10:53,867 conservation area. 1365 01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:56,333 And are they also going to, 1366 01:10:56,333 --> 01:11:00,700 they're also going on sewer line, right? 1367 01:11:01,066 --> 01:11:03,066 - Yeah. The Clearwater Project. Yes. Yeah. 1368 01:11:03,433 --> 01:11:05,934 - So that's where the sewer ends 1369 01:11:06,166 --> 01:11:09,000 and all those houses that go out towards Rock Road 1370 01:11:09,066 --> 01:11:10,867 and then Trout Road Right. 1371 01:11:11,033 --> 01:11:13,934 They're all, they're still septic and they could be failing 1372 01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:17,033 'cause they're 50 to 50 plus years old. 1373 01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:22,867 And that was identified as a possible sewer problem 1374 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,634 that the college Township may have. 1375 01:11:25,066 --> 01:11:30,033 - Right. And Ferguson Patton half Moon Harris, they, 1376 01:11:30,033 --> 01:11:33,100 we all, there's more than just this one. 1377 01:11:33,133 --> 01:11:35,000 And, and there might be others in College Township. 1378 01:11:35,033 --> 01:11:38,934 So when we actually do the full study, we'll be making sure 1379 01:11:38,934 --> 01:11:41,033 that we're, we're looking at other of those. 1380 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,700 But yes, this one in College Township is the one 1381 01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:45,500 that we brought up as we, we are aware 1382 01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:47,467 of it from the sewer enforcement officers, 1383 01:11:47,467 --> 01:11:50,700 but we just definitely want to make sure that that is, 1384 01:11:51,233 --> 01:11:53,066 that's coming next in 2027. 1385 01:11:53,734 --> 01:11:57,066 I will note that this recap report is in this agenda packet 1386 01:11:57,166 --> 01:11:59,033 and that we are putting it on our website 1387 01:11:59,033 --> 01:12:00,266 after we meet with the pc. 1388 01:12:00,266 --> 01:12:03,000 If this in case we had to make any edits, 1389 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,567 but then we'll be putting it on our website so 1390 01:12:04,567 --> 01:12:05,900 that the public can see it also. 1391 01:12:06,333 --> 01:12:07,333 Okay. 1392 01:12:08,166 --> 01:12:12,033 - Does anybody have any questions, Ted? 1393 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,100 - Well, I, I would say I appreciate this update. 1394 01:12:17,367 --> 01:12:20,767 This is very, you know, especially with the housing concerns 1395 01:12:20,767 --> 01:12:22,500 and connection between or beyond cars, 1396 01:12:23,900 --> 01:12:25,367 I don't really have any questions, but I do like 1397 01:12:25,367 --> 01:12:26,533 that this is great information. 1398 01:12:26,734 --> 01:12:28,166 I, this is very, very valuable. 1399 01:12:29,233 --> 01:12:30,433 - Matt, I'm gonna have you go 1400 01:12:30,433 --> 01:12:32,300 seconds 'cause I've been forgetting yet. 1401 01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:36,634 - Sort echo Tad. Just very nice presentation, nice graphics 1402 01:12:36,934 --> 01:12:38,634 and really easy to understand. 1403 01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:46,000 - Thank you for helping create this valuable resource. 1404 01:12:47,634 --> 01:12:48,634 Peggy, 1405 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,567 - It's a, it was a good presentation. 1406 01:12:50,767 --> 01:12:54,567 A lot of information well organized and very useful 1407 01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:57,300 - And thank you very much. 1408 01:12:57,634 --> 01:12:59,266 I think you hit all the highlights 1409 01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:01,300 that came out of that joint meeting. 1410 01:13:04,266 --> 01:13:06,433 I think you guys did some really good work here. 1411 01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,500 - Excellent. It's been a good activity, 1412 01:13:09,533 --> 01:13:11,033 but I'm not done with my presentation 1413 01:13:11,367 --> 01:13:12,900 'cause that's what we heard at the recap. 1414 01:13:12,934 --> 01:13:14,266 But there's two more things that I would 1415 01:13:14,266 --> 01:13:15,367 like to talk about that's, 1416 01:13:15,367 --> 01:13:16,867 - Well, we just wanted to give - You a Yep. 1417 01:13:16,867 --> 01:13:18,767 That I want. I paused so that we KU goes now. 1418 01:13:18,767 --> 01:13:22,100 Yeah, I appreciate it. 'cause that lets us now send it off 1419 01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:24,166 to council so that, that's what we are looking for 1420 01:13:24,166 --> 01:13:25,533 to make sure we've captured it. 1421 01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:28,066 One of the things that's coming out 1422 01:13:28,066 --> 01:13:30,100 with the discussions on future growth areas 1423 01:13:31,367 --> 01:13:32,834 is if we're going to grow, 1424 01:13:32,900 --> 01:13:35,433 we wanna make sure we're growing in the right places 1425 01:13:35,634 --> 01:13:37,634 and you've identified growth areas. 1426 01:13:38,066 --> 01:13:41,433 And so we are recommending that part 1427 01:13:41,433 --> 01:13:46,033 of this comprehensive plan for all consideration really is 1428 01:13:46,033 --> 01:13:48,133 that we have criteria for when it's time 1429 01:13:48,934 --> 01:13:50,100 for the sewer service area 1430 01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:51,867 and regional growth boundary to be expanded, right? 1431 01:13:51,867 --> 01:13:55,000 We're identifying these in the comprehensive plan, 1432 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:58,300 but when it's actually time should one, 1433 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,100 we should be looking at the capacity, right? 1434 01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:02,533 We're gonna continue to do that red cap report. 1435 01:14:03,166 --> 01:14:04,900 We want to making sure 1436 01:14:04,900 --> 01:14:08,333 that we're looking at infrastructure planning as we go so 1437 01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:10,667 that we're confirming it's cost effective and 1438 01:14:10,734 --> 01:14:13,634 and being able to be done in a timely manner, right? 1439 01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:17,333 So that transportation piece of it needs to keep happening 1440 01:14:17,433 --> 01:14:18,500 that we're planning it 1441 01:14:18,567 --> 01:14:22,100 and thinking of things in our CIP as we see growth continue, 1442 01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:24,467 demand verification. 1443 01:14:24,467 --> 01:14:27,233 Is there demand such as, you know, housing, we know 1444 01:14:27,233 --> 01:14:29,233 that there's a big need for housing, so 1445 01:14:29,634 --> 01:14:31,000 that could get a priority 1446 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,467 for expanding the regional growth boundary. 1447 01:14:33,934 --> 01:14:37,634 It also could be a potential job economic hub, right? 1448 01:14:37,634 --> 01:14:40,266 Something that there's a demand in this region for. 1449 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,634 And then there's regional coordination 1450 01:14:42,634 --> 01:14:44,133 that we wanna make sure we're doing things 1451 01:14:44,133 --> 01:14:45,700 consistently through the region. 1452 01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:48,767 And for your regional growth areas, 1453 01:14:49,066 --> 01:14:52,033 or sorry, your future growth areas, we recommend working 1454 01:14:52,033 --> 01:14:53,100 with Benner Township 1455 01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,567 because those properties are also in Benner Township. 1456 01:14:56,634 --> 01:14:58,767 So that's something we've talked to with Lindsay 1457 01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:01,300 and staff here that we're gonna make sure we talk 1458 01:15:01,300 --> 01:15:02,634 to the folks at Benner Township. 1459 01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:06,100 And then as we know from the community input 1460 01:15:07,033 --> 01:15:08,734 from not just your open house, 1461 01:15:08,734 --> 01:15:11,133 but all of them that the environmental clearance is really 1462 01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:13,066 important to make sure that if 1463 01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,634 and where we're building, we wanna make sure we're 1464 01:15:15,634 --> 01:15:17,367 protecting our water resources and such. 1465 01:15:17,867 --> 01:15:20,066 So I don't know if I'm missing anything. 1466 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,233 So I keep that in mind. 1467 01:15:21,233 --> 01:15:23,367 And then I just want to show the criteria for 1468 01:15:23,367 --> 01:15:26,533 what the environmental criteria are. 1469 01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,533 And a lot of this is already built in, 1470 01:15:29,533 --> 01:15:32,734 but we want to continue to, you know, strengthen this 1471 01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,700 and see if we're missing anything. 1472 01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:37,300 But we wanna make sure that we're looking at steep slopes 1473 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:40,066 that we're not building on those riparian buffers are 1474 01:15:40,066 --> 01:15:41,634 important for our waterways. 1475 01:15:42,066 --> 01:15:45,000 Agriculture soils are important to continue 1476 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,567 to Preserve those prime agricultural soils. 1477 01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:49,367 Not building on floodplains. 1478 01:15:49,634 --> 01:15:53,834 We know we have this kars and geological formations 1479 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,100 and that we have to make sure we're building correctly 1480 01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:59,066 for those, not building on wetlands, woodland 1481 01:15:59,066 --> 01:16:00,266 and habitat considerations. 1482 01:16:00,567 --> 01:16:02,734 And again, looking at this infrastructure, 1483 01:16:03,567 --> 01:16:05,033 what our capacity is 1484 01:16:05,367 --> 01:16:08,133 and where it needs to be so that we're making sure 1485 01:16:08,133 --> 01:16:11,333 that we're not getting high congestion and bottlenecks 1486 01:16:11,834 --> 01:16:14,033 and then existing development patterns. 1487 01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,000 We wanna make sure we're continuing to build 1488 01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,767 with the right character with our neighbors. 1489 01:16:19,433 --> 01:16:21,000 So that's what we have. 1490 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,867 And so I don't know if you have any input, 1491 01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:24,867 and again, this won't be the last time you see this. 1492 01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:27,834 This is gonna be a part of the comprehensive plan. 1493 01:16:27,934 --> 01:16:30,266 So we wanted to share this with you. 1494 01:16:30,367 --> 01:16:33,066 And if there are things that you're like, we're missing this 1495 01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:36,066 or we're forgetting something, I just will give you a chance 1496 01:16:36,066 --> 01:16:37,834 to let me know if there's anything that 1497 01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:42,133 you would recommend we consider or take a look at. 1498 01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:45,867 - I think this is my own opinion, 1499 01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:48,634 and I'm not talking for the whole planning commission, 1500 01:16:48,867 --> 01:16:50,767 but just looking at your criteria up there. 1501 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,934 If you look at what you identified as future growth areas, 1502 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,734 we already know there's demand up in the university site 1503 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,700 where Pam Health is going. 1504 01:17:06,834 --> 01:17:10,233 They're also looking at a RL to go up there. 1505 01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:14,000 We know we're running a water service up there. 1506 01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:16,100 We know that there's gonna be sewer up there. 1507 01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,100 So that would be a perfect criteria 1508 01:17:20,667 --> 01:17:23,333 because we know there's growth, we know there's demand. 1509 01:17:24,033 --> 01:17:28,834 So that would fit right in to make sure that area 1510 01:17:29,333 --> 01:17:32,066 is included in a future growth area. 1511 01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:38,734 That parcel number two, the 43 acres, that's part 1512 01:17:38,734 --> 01:17:42,367 of Dale Summit, which I know is important 1513 01:17:42,467 --> 01:17:44,233 to the Township at this point with 1514 01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:47,066 the Form Based Code and those kind of things. 1515 01:17:48,433 --> 01:17:50,734 There may be some environmental things there 1516 01:17:50,834 --> 01:17:52,000 that have to be looked at. 1517 01:17:52,667 --> 01:17:56,066 I'm not so sure. But then when you go to 1518 01:17:57,433 --> 01:18:02,100 the future growth for the rock view land, 1519 01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,500 that's gonna be very difficult. 1520 01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:06,333 I don't know if that's immediate 1521 01:18:06,734 --> 01:18:09,367 because we don't even know if the state's gonna sell it. 1522 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,700 So, you know, future growth map, 1523 01:18:13,266 --> 01:18:15,066 I think the Dale Summit ISS very important. 1524 01:18:15,266 --> 01:18:17,133 I think the university land's very important 1525 01:18:17,834 --> 01:18:22,500 and then we would have to meet all the other criteria 1526 01:18:22,634 --> 01:18:26,233 that staff has put together with wetlands, environmentals, 1527 01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:29,066 the soils and all that. 1528 01:18:29,166 --> 01:18:33,266 So I see where you're going in the right direction. 1529 01:18:34,867 --> 01:18:36,934 Does anybody else have anything to say? Matt? 1530 01:18:36,934 --> 01:18:37,934 You have anything? 1531 01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:42,934 - Yeah, what's Carson? - That's we, that's Sink Hall 1532 01:18:44,066 --> 01:18:45,066 - Basic. 1533 01:18:45,066 --> 01:18:45,900 Okay. 1534 01:18:46,734 --> 01:18:48,033 - Limestone. Limestone. 1535 01:18:48,033 --> 01:18:50,333 That falls apart when you build on it. Yeah. 1536 01:18:52,433 --> 01:18:56,133 - Okay. Thank you. - Peggy, do you have anything? 1537 01:18:56,667 --> 01:18:58,000 Not anything, Sal. 1538 01:19:00,700 --> 01:19:03,700 I I think that was a very good presentation. The 1539 01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:04,700 - Great beginning. 1540 01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:07,734 All right, so then the, this is kind of the wrap, 1541 01:19:07,834 --> 01:19:09,266 wrap up for the recap memo. 1542 01:19:09,867 --> 01:19:12,500 And what we'll be doing is working next with council, 1543 01:19:12,567 --> 01:19:14,100 taking it to them, and again, 1544 01:19:14,166 --> 01:19:16,500 doing it at all six of the municipalities. 1545 01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:20,100 And that future land use map will be getting to the, 1546 01:19:20,166 --> 01:19:21,533 the final point, it'll go 1547 01:19:21,533 --> 01:19:23,333 to the Centre Region Planning Commission. 1548 01:19:24,133 --> 01:19:28,266 You'll see it again in the package as a regional map, 1549 01:19:28,367 --> 01:19:29,533 not just College Township. 1550 01:19:30,767 --> 01:19:33,066 Then there's the writing of the comprehensive plan, 1551 01:19:33,066 --> 01:19:35,333 which we're starting to work on with all the feedback 1552 01:19:35,333 --> 01:19:37,467 that we've been getting over the past couple years 1553 01:19:37,533 --> 01:19:39,033 with the big ideas, the goals. 1554 01:19:39,667 --> 01:19:41,266 Then the third piece 1555 01:19:41,266 --> 01:19:44,066 that we're tackling is Shared Land uses. 1556 01:19:44,066 --> 01:19:47,934 And so I want to just give a brief two slide overview of 1557 01:19:47,934 --> 01:19:49,867 that, because there will be more coming 1558 01:19:49,867 --> 01:19:51,834 where we will be asking things of you. 1559 01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:54,767 And so what College Township 1560 01:19:54,767 --> 01:19:55,767 and Patent Township, 1561 01:19:56,066 --> 01:19:58,867 you currently have a shared land use agreement 1562 01:19:58,900 --> 01:20:00,500 where college provides for industrial 1563 01:20:00,734 --> 01:20:02,367 and patent provides for multifamily. 1564 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:03,700 So you're used to this, 1565 01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:07,100 but what we are looking at is for the full region, 1566 01:20:07,634 --> 01:20:09,767 for example, half Moon Township does not 1567 01:20:09,767 --> 01:20:11,100 provide for multifamily. 1568 01:20:11,667 --> 01:20:13,033 So we need to bring in 1569 01:20:13,567 --> 01:20:16,033 and look at it for the region as a whole, 1570 01:20:16,033 --> 01:20:17,066 which we've been doing 1571 01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,533 with the Centre Region Comprehensive Plan, sort of 1572 01:20:20,033 --> 01:20:22,033 planning together as a region. 1573 01:20:22,634 --> 01:20:24,066 But we want to look 1574 01:20:24,033 --> 01:20:27,000 and move towards codifying this so 1575 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,133 that all the municipalities can really make sure 1576 01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:32,100 that they're legally protected in that way. 1577 01:20:32,133 --> 01:20:34,934 So by looking at Shared Land uses, 1578 01:20:34,934 --> 01:20:38,467 we're currently at the staff level talking about what types 1579 01:20:38,634 --> 01:20:40,133 of lands we should be sharing. 1580 01:20:40,634 --> 01:20:42,100 But it provides flexibility, 1581 01:20:42,233 --> 01:20:44,000 it helps coordinate infrastructure. 1582 01:20:44,166 --> 01:20:45,700 So this lists some 1583 01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:48,500 of the reasons why we're looking at Shared Land uses, 1584 01:20:48,734 --> 01:20:51,000 but really we're trying to document 1585 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:54,066 and strengthen what we're already doing on this Centre 1586 01:20:54,066 --> 01:20:55,567 Region Comprehensive plan, 1587 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,834 but with an actual written agreement. 1588 01:20:59,667 --> 01:21:02,266 And on the next slide, it just shows some of the things 1589 01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:05,133 that at staff level we are talking about. 1590 01:21:06,033 --> 01:21:10,000 There's been law cases, court cases about residential uses. 1591 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,300 Again, back to the fact 1592 01:21:11,300 --> 01:21:13,634 that Half Moon doesn't provide for multifamily. 1593 01:21:13,934 --> 01:21:15,133 We need to look at those. 1594 01:21:15,233 --> 01:21:17,934 So we're looking at making sure we're sharing 1595 01:21:17,934 --> 01:21:20,000 those land uses. 1596 01:21:20,033 --> 01:21:22,533 Data centers have been a hot topic these days. 1597 01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:24,867 So that's one. And then 1598 01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:27,233 whenever you have these larger data centers, 1599 01:21:27,734 --> 01:21:31,100 even mid-sized ones, you have energy generating facilities. 1600 01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:35,233 So we're gonna look at those industrial adult businesses, 1601 01:21:35,734 --> 01:21:37,467 area stadium and amphitheater. 1602 01:21:37,467 --> 01:21:40,300 Obviously College Township provides for that, 1603 01:21:40,934 --> 01:21:43,033 but not all the other municipalities do, 1604 01:21:43,066 --> 01:21:44,066 but we could share that. 1605 01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:47,734 Right? We also have the casino and the hospital, 1606 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,266 but Patent Township also has some hospital uses. 1607 01:21:51,266 --> 01:21:53,000 So these are examples. 1608 01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:55,066 It's not like we're sharing all land uses. 1609 01:21:55,166 --> 01:22:00,100 The idea is to identify some of them, document them, 1610 01:22:00,133 --> 01:22:01,133 and understand the process. 1611 01:22:02,066 --> 01:22:05,266 The process would basically be as things, if things needed 1612 01:22:05,266 --> 01:22:06,867 to change or new things came in 1613 01:22:06,867 --> 01:22:08,100 and we're gonna share them, it would be 1614 01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:10,500 A-C-R-P-C discussion. 1615 01:22:10,567 --> 01:22:14,367 So that's the type of process, but we'll provide more. 1616 01:22:14,634 --> 01:22:18,734 I just wanted to give a little bit of an overview of a topic 1617 01:22:18,734 --> 01:22:20,834 that's gonna be coming back with more detail 1618 01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:23,000 for your approval and recommendation to counsel. 1619 01:22:26,634 --> 01:22:28,066 - Does anybody have any questions? 1620 01:22:30,066 --> 01:22:33,500 I I have one question for you. Okay. 1621 01:22:34,467 --> 01:22:38,300 On these future land growth areas, 1622 01:22:44,166 --> 01:22:46,533 we know, I'm just gonna use an example. 1623 01:22:46,667 --> 01:22:51,533 That's a live example, A A RL. Okay. 1624 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,000 Where they want to have a secure campus 1625 01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,100 over time, move all their operations to one location, 1626 01:23:01,333 --> 01:23:03,300 and that means there's gonna be 1627 01:23:03,367 --> 01:23:05,033 vacancies in other townships. 1628 01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:11,300 Okay. So if 1629 01:23:11,367 --> 01:23:15,700 we say, how do you get future, 1630 01:23:16,033 --> 01:23:17,000 a future land map 1631 01:23:17,333 --> 01:23:21,867 and an approval for a growth area, does 1632 01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:26,300 that mean everybody in COG needs to approve that? 1633 01:23:28,133 --> 01:23:30,867 - Yeah. So - This, because it can get very protective, 1634 01:23:31,634 --> 01:23:35,533 because if you're gonna have vacancies, you are gonna say, 1635 01:23:35,867 --> 01:23:37,000 no, I don't want this 1636 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,934 because I may be losing rental properties 1637 01:23:42,266 --> 01:23:45,100 or commercial tenants or whatever. 1638 01:23:45,734 --> 01:23:48,533 Even though if you don't do that, 1639 01:23:49,033 --> 01:23:52,700 then a RL may not be able to get DOD contracts 1640 01:23:53,500 --> 01:23:55,266 because of security purposes. 1641 01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:00,100 So it's a, a tough road to go down, 1642 01:24:00,367 --> 01:24:02,000 but I understand where you're going, 1643 01:24:03,266 --> 01:24:06,500 but you also have this, you know, 1644 01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:08,000 we gotta protect our own turf. 1645 01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:12,333 - Yes. So I don't think you're specifically 1646 01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:13,767 asking about the A RI. 1647 01:24:13,767 --> 01:24:14,767 No, I'm not. Okay. Yeah, I'm, 1648 01:24:14,834 --> 01:24:15,934 I'm using, so you're talking about the, 1649 01:24:16,233 --> 01:24:17,567 - I'm using that as an example, 1650 01:24:17,734 --> 01:24:18,734 - Right? 1651 01:24:18,734 --> 01:24:20,000 We we're learning a lot about that process. 1652 01:24:21,634 --> 01:24:24,133 The regional growth boundary service service area is 1653 01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:26,033 definitely something that a lot 1654 01:24:26,033 --> 01:24:27,567 of people feel strongly about. 1655 01:24:27,834 --> 01:24:30,567 And like that it protects the farmlands 1656 01:24:30,567 --> 01:24:32,867 and preserves things, but we're trying 1657 01:24:32,867 --> 01:24:37,000 to make sure people also understand that it is not meant 1658 01:24:37,033 --> 01:24:38,100 to never move. 1659 01:24:38,634 --> 01:24:40,100 And that's why we have the minor process 1660 01:24:40,367 --> 01:24:43,266 and the, the process that allows for it to be expanded. 1661 01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:47,066 And so by di identifying criteria 1662 01:24:49,133 --> 01:24:53,467 and instead of just always reacting to where growth is 1663 01:24:53,567 --> 01:24:54,934 by the developers coming in. 1664 01:24:54,934 --> 01:24:57,066 So there's a process to update them, 1665 01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:59,500 but we really should be looking at 1666 01:24:59,734 --> 01:25:01,533 where we want growth to be. 1667 01:25:01,567 --> 01:25:03,000 It doesn't mean it's happening tomorrow. 1668 01:25:03,033 --> 01:25:04,233 Like Rockview is an example. 1669 01:25:04,233 --> 01:25:06,634 These other ones, it's not happening tomorrow, 1670 01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,300 but we are getting tight within 1671 01:25:10,333 --> 01:25:11,433 our regional growth boundaries. 1672 01:25:11,433 --> 01:25:13,700 So we should be starting to talk about future growth areas. 1673 01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:18,033 It does go to the Centre Region Planning Commission. 1674 01:25:18,667 --> 01:25:21,767 And my sense is it goes to General Forum as well 1675 01:25:21,767 --> 01:25:23,467 because it needs to be approved. 1676 01:25:23,667 --> 01:25:26,667 But I, we've been mentioning 1677 01:25:26,767 --> 01:25:29,133 that College Township is looking at future growth areas, 1678 01:25:29,567 --> 01:25:30,634 nobody else's. 1679 01:25:30,634 --> 01:25:33,266 And I think that's in some ways appropriate. 1680 01:25:33,367 --> 01:25:35,500 If everybody was gonna say they were growing, 1681 01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:37,533 then we really need to narrow that down. 1682 01:25:37,533 --> 01:25:40,233 Right? It, it, we don't want to just open the, 1683 01:25:40,333 --> 01:25:44,433 the gates per se because of the beauty of Happy Valley 1684 01:25:44,533 --> 01:25:46,734 and the farmlands, but we should, 1685 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,533 ID be identifying some future growth 1686 01:25:48,533 --> 01:25:52,700 areas For planning, you know? 1687 01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:54,133 Right. It's long-term planning 1688 01:25:54,066 --> 01:25:56,000 and that's gonna be a discussion. 1689 01:25:56,467 --> 01:26:01,000 I, and so far in the, you know, when we were going out 1690 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,567 to the different municipalities, sometimes they've asked 1691 01:26:03,567 --> 01:26:04,700 what are other people doing? 1692 01:26:04,867 --> 01:26:07,533 I will say State College Borough is looking at their 1693 01:26:07,767 --> 01:26:10,233 rezoning growing up, and so they're looking 1694 01:26:10,433 --> 01:26:11,934 to take more capacity. 1695 01:26:12,066 --> 01:26:13,333 So they're wondering what 1696 01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:16,233 that impact will be on other municipalities as well. 1697 01:26:16,467 --> 01:26:18,066 And, and we do have to watch that, right. 1698 01:26:18,066 --> 01:26:21,266 If so, we don't have a lot 1699 01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:23,300 of vacant properties over time, 1700 01:26:23,634 --> 01:26:25,367 but that's something that will be one 1701 01:26:25,367 --> 01:26:27,333 of the tasks that come with this. 1702 01:26:28,934 --> 01:26:31,233 - I the only reason I'm asking that is 1703 01:26:31,233 --> 01:26:35,000 because I know living here for 30 plus years, 1704 01:26:36,066 --> 01:26:37,500 you do have territorial 1705 01:26:40,066 --> 01:26:42,000 type P. 1706 01:26:42,066 --> 01:26:43,266 Yeah. Territorial. 1707 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,533 I, I don't want to give up something even though it's 1708 01:26:46,934 --> 01:26:48,867 for the betterment of the whole community. 1709 01:26:49,033 --> 01:26:51,367 - Yep, yep. 1710 01:26:51,467 --> 01:26:53,100 We'll try to keep focusing on, 1711 01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:56,433 most residents live in state college. 1712 01:26:56,700 --> 01:27:00,066 Yeah. They don't always identify in one municipality. 1713 01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,667 - So Yeah, we don't, we don't care if it's College 1714 01:27:02,667 --> 01:27:04,166 Township, Ferguson or whatever. 1715 01:27:04,900 --> 01:27:08,066 Whatever's good for the whole right area should be 1716 01:27:08,066 --> 01:27:09,066 good for the community. 1717 01:27:10,033 --> 01:27:13,900 And that's what I, I don't see that all the time. Okay. 1718 01:27:18,934 --> 01:27:20,266 Does anybody else have any comments? 1719 01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:22,166 Matt, do you got anything? 1720 01:27:25,834 --> 01:27:30,133 - No. - Huh? Nope. 1721 01:27:30,133 --> 01:27:33,100 I guess nobody does, but now are you 1722 01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:34,333 - Now I am done. 1723 01:27:34,433 --> 01:27:35,734 Thank you for your time. 1724 01:27:36,133 --> 01:27:38,867 - Does anybody else have any comments or questions? 1725 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,266 That was a great presentation. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. 1726 01:27:43,066 --> 01:27:45,433 I wish you luck making sure everybody's happy. 1727 01:27:45,700 --> 01:27:47,900 Yeah, I need it. 1728 01:27:51,133 --> 01:27:54,734 A good start. Yeah. Really good. 1729 01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:01,333 All right. The next thing on the agenda 1730 01:28:04,634 --> 01:28:07,900 is, Matt, do you want to give the council report? 1731 01:28:08,033 --> 01:28:10,934 Did you watch the tape? I have it summarized if you did. 1732 01:28:13,066 --> 01:28:14,333 - No, I'll do it. - All right. 1733 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,467 - Two, feel free to staff or members feel free to jump in. 1734 01:28:19,767 --> 01:28:23,333 On June 18th, the shadow commercial part, 1735 01:28:23,900 --> 01:28:26,667 phase two final subdivision plan was approved. 1736 01:28:27,634 --> 01:28:30,000 They also talked a little bit about Form Based Code. 1737 01:28:30,867 --> 01:28:33,000 An interesting thing that doesn't really pertain this a 1738 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,367 hundred percent, but there's a lot 1739 01:28:34,367 --> 01:28:36,667 of noise about Brandywine Drive. 1740 01:28:37,266 --> 01:28:41,433 So they're going to Brandywine pedestrian signal project. 1741 01:28:41,934 --> 01:28:45,000 So they're looking to put in two advanced warning signs 1742 01:28:45,634 --> 01:28:50,133 and six crosswalk signs with, that's been about $42,000. 1743 01:28:51,066 --> 01:28:54,266 Unique thing is that the school district is kicking in 25%. 1744 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,900 So the council approved that with the, with the budget not 1745 01:28:58,900 --> 01:29:00,166 to exceed 45,000. 1746 01:29:01,367 --> 01:29:05,066 Anybody have any questions on that? Nope. Okay. 1747 01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:08,533 July 16th at a Public Hearing for the signs amendment 1748 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,033 and also for the, the sdo, the trees, 1749 01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:17,033 the Signs Science Stadiums, CORINA'S Event Center, the 1750 01:29:17,567 --> 01:29:20,567 Centre Region Planning Commission actually heard a bunch of 1751 01:29:20,567 --> 01:29:24,533 that tabled it without any specific actions. 1752 01:29:26,033 --> 01:29:28,100 Council and staff seemed to think that a lot 1753 01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:31,634 of the questions that the CRPC had were actually sort 1754 01:29:31,634 --> 01:29:34,467 of in the Ordinance that they did, you know, they missed 1755 01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:36,033 or didn't quite understand. 1756 01:29:36,166 --> 01:29:40,233 So they, they voted to approve that 1757 01:29:42,133 --> 01:29:44,033 the tree was sort of self-explanatory. 1758 01:29:44,533 --> 01:29:47,000 There weren't not many arborists on, on our group. 1759 01:29:48,667 --> 01:29:51,066 The final thing you'll find interesting that they come up 1760 01:29:51,066 --> 01:29:53,834 with a plan for the staff to, I mean, for council 1761 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,000 to review Form Based Code. 1762 01:29:55,433 --> 01:29:58,533 So they're gonna have like their regular council meeting. 1763 01:29:58,667 --> 01:30:01,500 And then that night, I think Lindsay, they're gonna get 1764 01:30:02,266 --> 01:30:05,700 the information for the work sessions that they're having. 1765 01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:07,767 They're gonna have a total, I think of five work sessions. 1766 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,100 So they're, they're doing a nice job of spacing their 1767 01:30:11,133 --> 01:30:13,300 work format, code workout from 1768 01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:16,066 their regular council meetings. 1769 01:30:16,700 --> 01:30:17,700 And that's all I have. 1770 01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:22,500 - Okay. The only other thing that I had is, 1771 01:30:24,367 --> 01:30:28,567 it was in the manager's report, carrie's working 1772 01:30:28,634 --> 01:30:31,567 with the Department of Economic and Community Development. 1773 01:30:33,266 --> 01:30:34,867 This is looking for grants 1774 01:30:34,934 --> 01:30:39,100 or loan programs for the revitalization of the mall 1775 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,767 for a possible acquisition. 1776 01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:45,066 She has continued to work on that for the last two 1777 01:30:45,066 --> 01:30:49,000 and a half years, looking at some things 1778 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:53,100 that may help if there is an acquisition or whatever. 1779 01:30:53,767 --> 01:30:57,700 Because that, if you look at Dale Summit, that's one area 1780 01:30:57,734 --> 01:31:00,634 that hasn't really continued 1781 01:31:00,667 --> 01:31:03,233 to develop like we hope it would've. 1782 01:31:04,734 --> 01:31:07,867 They're also looking at a possible, possible area 1783 01:31:08,133 --> 01:31:11,634 to lease some space within the Township. 1784 01:31:12,266 --> 01:31:16,500 This is for startup companies that have, are ready 1785 01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:21,133 to move out of the incubator buildings up on campus 1786 01:31:22,033 --> 01:31:23,700 to go to their next level. 1787 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,133 We don't have any of those things right now in the area. 1788 01:31:29,667 --> 01:31:33,066 So we're looking at, can we do something through 1789 01:31:33,533 --> 01:31:34,700 College Township 1790 01:31:34,700 --> 01:31:39,700 or the IDA to help people find some space to move into. 1791 01:31:40,567 --> 01:31:42,533 And she's also looking at going 1792 01:31:42,533 --> 01:31:45,567 through the Appalachian Regional Commission for some kind 1793 01:31:45,567 --> 01:31:48,233 of grants that may help with planning 1794 01:31:49,166 --> 01:31:52,066 in the Dale Summit area for economic 1795 01:31:52,900 --> 01:31:55,033 growth initiatives. 1796 01:31:55,700 --> 01:31:58,233 Did I summarize that pretty good? Oh, did I? 1797 01:31:59,834 --> 01:32:03,533 That's it on that. Carrie, do you have anything to add? 1798 01:32:04,033 --> 01:32:06,300 - No, but you know, happy to talk to anybody 1799 01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:09,333 that's interested in some of that business incubator work 1800 01:32:09,467 --> 01:32:12,133 or the Department of Community and Economic Development. 1801 01:32:12,467 --> 01:32:14,533 - And the other thing I forgot to say that Carrie 1802 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,634 and the IDA is gonna be sending out questionnaires 1803 01:32:18,667 --> 01:32:21,834 of about 18 questions to about 300 companies. 1804 01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:23,567 - Yep. A business service. 1805 01:32:23,700 --> 01:32:26,066 - And that should go out somewhere in August. 1806 01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:28,033 Her goal is August 1st, 1807 01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:29,700 but that's up to the printers I guess. 1808 01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:35,133 So that is that. 1809 01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:42,100 We got a copy of the Zoning bulletins. 1810 01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:45,767 We got a copy of the update 1811 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,000 for the Subdivision and Land Development Plans. 1812 01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:53,734 And hopefully you read those and looked at those. 1813 01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:56,700 And our next meeting is scheduled 1814 01:32:56,700 --> 01:33:00,367 for August 4th, 2026. 1815 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,000 And nobody else has anything looking 1816 01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,000 for a motion for adjournment? 1817 01:33:07,166 --> 01:33:10,300 Motion to Adjourn. We got a motion. We have a second. 1818 01:33:10,433 --> 01:33:14,033 All in favor A absolutely. See ya. 1819 01:33:14,300 --> 01:33:15,533 - Thank you. See ya. 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