1 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Commission works out to order. First of all, I want to welcome everybody and welcome guests. Thank you for attending. 2 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:57,760 The first thing for discussion is the Christmas parade discussion. As we talk about this, one thing that I want to start out with is just the acknowledgement. 3 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,620 kind of that set my 4 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,280 just my reasoning here for this is that I think we've all been in situations 5 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:17,140 in our employment careers where we work for jobs, work for bosses, sometimes it's just 6 00:02:17,140 --> 00:02:23,980 that they didn't want to hear whatever they didn't want to hear dissension and stuff. 7 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,280 If you had concerns, they weren't really interested in stuff and one thing that has kind 8 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:35,540 struck me is that it's not what we, that's not the kind of thing that I want to do as far 9 00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:41,620 as that, if they are concerned, if there are, you know, just some thoughts that I want all 10 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:47,780 employees to kind of feel for you to share those. And to make those known and stuff, it's not 11 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:56,080 meant to be, to turn into just a debate or to become adversarial. It's just that I think about things 12 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:03,120 like the O-rings on the challenger is that that was a known problem but nobody from below said 13 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,460 anything and then never did go upwards and so then there was a challenger explosion. 14 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:14,380 So from that standpoint we're not dealing with anything like that big but also at the same 15 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:20,460 time I want to stay you know if staff have concerns is that feel free to bring them to me 16 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:25,400 and then I'm not just going to sit on, I'm going to bring those up for the to the commission 17 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,040 to that hear the concerns that are raised and then go from there. 18 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,420 Ultimately, I think we all all staff acknowledges that the decisions that are made in the 19 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:39,840 direction that is given that comes from the commission. 20 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,240 We fully understand that. 21 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,240 We fully support that and understand the process and everything. 22 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:53,240 But we also appreciate the fact that we can have these open discussions to make sure that 23 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,380 making good decisions on behalf and for the community. 24 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:02,880 So I just think it's important for us to kind of start from that standpoint. 25 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,980 And that's my objective here is just to begin if I'm hearing concerns, 26 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,220 I feel that you guys want me to pass them on and not just set up and stop. 27 00:04:13,700 --> 00:04:21,080 So from that one thing I will say is Lieutenant Herko is here to for the police. 28 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,700 Assistant Chief, 29 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:29,060 he is getting married, so that is something that they had already planned. 30 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:36,640 They asked me, I felt like it handled this a little bit, and so I, that is why Chiefs 31 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,680 happened and Chief Heath aren't here enough stuff. 32 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:49,500 So, but gets into too much logistical, I'll let, we'll have Lieutenant Herko discuss, answer any 33 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:56,800 question but I think we should be good. Overall I gave you the notes that were put together 34 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,040 again like I said but don't want to get into debate it was just that we wanted to be able 35 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,360 to voice our concerns to you and so from that standpoint it's just that some things that 36 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:16,040 kind of jumped out at me that I wanted to make note of. Parade route would affect five major 37 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:24,200 intersections that was pointed out. This was stated that it created a greater disruption to 38 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:31,700 normal traffic flow than we experienced during our annual independence day celebration, as presented 39 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:39,240 as kind of discussed if we close the Udwar Ringoed Absent Pike intersection. 40 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,020 I'm thinking about 41 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:52,220 Lee Highway that come in over the bridge from Aperson, where do they go if we had that completely 42 00:05:52,990 --> 00:05:56,700 blocked off and stuff for an extended period of time. 43 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:03,920 So from that standpoint, there's just a few concerns about that, parade route being in 44 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:13,980 the dark that provides, creates a little added specter of safety for anybody walking it, 45 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:20,640 If we open it back up after we're, after we're done, what does that mean for pedestrians 46 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,380 that might be needing to cross roads and that sort of thing? 47 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,720 So there's a few concerns about that. 48 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,720 As far as police and staffing and emergency response, all hands response from police 49 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,400 department, and there's just that a little bit of it because we have a lot of intersections 50 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,180 and traffic to kind of be managing at that point. 51 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:51,260 And so police work, and certainly we would have enough hands on deck to be able to do that. 52 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:58,360 And so those are just some of the issues I'm trying to looking over some of the things I've highlighted. 53 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Essentially we're talking about a, you know, when we have our July, we're just in this space, but we're creating an event space that's about a mile or a long or so. 54 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:18,020 And so that creates a little bit more challenge, and then just also the parking itself. 55 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:22,360 The community church parking lot, not sure that it's going to be available. 56 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:29,240 There, at this time, they've indicated tasks they're not inclined for us to use as parking lot. 57 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:29,960 And just... 58 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:39,280 So that is really like I said, that is really all I really wanted to just kind of share that information. 59 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:46,400 At the end of the day, if the commission is like, this is what we want, this is the date that we want it. 60 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:59,980 Then staff will do our dead level best to have the events, make it, try to do our best to keep it safe for everyone and ensure the safety of everyone. 61 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:05,220 one and put on the best possible event as much as possible. 62 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,000 With that, I'll open it up for discussion. 63 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:12,500 Mass a quick question. 64 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,120 Since, for a second, for safety reasons and everything you've been 65 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,080 heard on that that you know and all the rounds that we've done. 66 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:23,740 What do you suggest is a good route to you? 67 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:34,430 for everything that we are trying to do as a community, 68 00:08:36,830 --> 00:08:41,070 630 in the evening, on a Sunday night. 69 00:08:42,910 --> 00:08:43,790 Saturday night. 70 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:44,950 Saturday night. 71 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,500 Me personally, I think the best is what we did last year. 72 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,180 Thank you. 73 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:52,660 They're just going to do it as Saturday night. 74 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:54,020 I'm church poverty. 75 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:54,820 Yeah. 76 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,140 Because the university. 77 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,940 It's Saturday night. 78 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,540 It's a little property. 79 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:00,680 So, but you asked me what the best route was. 80 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:06,940 And I think last year, with everyone lining up on what is now innovation arrived, can we get 81 00:09:06,940 --> 00:09:12,160 up down the university and then everyone has anything out onto the church and school parking 82 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,400 lots like we did last year. 83 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:20,060 I think that that is the best option, but as the chief, the assistant chief and Lieutenant 84 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:27,660 booth, all of us have discussed, whatever y'all tell us to do, we will get it done, the best 85 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,000 But would Sunday be an option to that Sunday instead of Saturday? 86 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Because after the sun goes down on Sunday, then it would be open. 87 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:40,460 Yeah, I apologize. 88 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,440 I understand you. 89 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:42,400 What's in the business? 90 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,420 The only problem at the school, I think that's... 91 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:46,640 Yeah. 92 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:48,080 Concerns we have. 93 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:51,820 This is part of it. 94 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,280 So I got a couple of suggestions. 95 00:09:54,280 --> 00:10:01,340 And that, you know, I didn't appreciate the bus mayor and what she came up to start this discussion. 96 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:10,800 I still think me personally, the best route is to have people go into the ball field, line them up that way. 97 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:12,920 These times the ball field. 98 00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:18,640 They come out and go left on a little day parkway. 99 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,460 left on some pipe at the red light, and the red dot will be closed, 100 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,280 one line so they couldn't 101 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,780 come all the way over into, because they'd be in the storage line. 102 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:41,400 I know there's a rest, but we can put up barriers and stuff to kind of come down, that short 103 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,360 distance from the ball field to the red light there. 104 00:10:46,820 --> 00:10:53,340 Take a left on AppSumPyke, and go down one side of AppSumPyke, 105 00:10:53,620 --> 00:11:00,900 make a new turn at X on, come back up, and then go back into the 106 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:04,760 ball field at that point. 107 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,860 I don't remember how many people, because the past year, 108 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,220 how long it was. 109 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,540 I think last year was a little bit smaller than anticipated, 110 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,140 because it was below freezing. 111 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:17,580 Yeah. 112 00:11:17,980 --> 00:11:19,000 It was very cold. 113 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:23,580 I've been very vocal about two things. 114 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,500 One, I think we need to combine both events in a one. 115 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,640 I think I think we'd have better crowds. 116 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:35,980 Secondly, I've been very opposed to doing it on a school night, because I think that detracts 117 00:11:35,980 --> 00:11:40,500 from families, Sunday nights or tough, parents are trying to get their kids back in the 118 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:43,220 groove to go to school the next morning. 119 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,200 What if we did it on Thanksgiving night? 120 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,400 You've got families in town, you've got a lot of people in town. 121 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:55,640 They're looking for something to do other than a $20 movie ticket. 122 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:02,280 What if we did a Sunday night, Christmas parade, and combined both into that night? 123 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:04,840 It would avoid Sabbath. 124 00:12:06,620 --> 00:12:09,240 McKee's going to be shut down. 125 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,760 I think traffic should be considerably lighter on Thanksgiving night. 126 00:12:16,660 --> 00:12:18,260 Would that be Thursday night? 127 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,180 The Thursday night? 128 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:19,620 Yeah. 129 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,500 It doesn't. 130 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:24,840 I think a lot of people go out of town. 131 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:31,140 Well, it depends. I mean, all of our family comes to our house. So we've got 25 people looking for something to do. 132 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,160 I just think something to help and they like that is bad choice. 133 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:45,140 Because we do the, our family does the boat parade every single year. 134 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,420 The Friday after Thanksgiving for us, that's a family tradition. 135 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,580 And I think it's a chance to do something very similar here. 136 00:12:55,660 --> 00:13:03,200 I don't just, you know, you were talking about what's for your family and I understand that I see where you're coming from. 137 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Not family, we're doing a lot of traveling. 138 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Oh, thanks, give me, give me, give me back. 139 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:13,840 You know, there's not much of it left so we try very much to get together. 140 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,760 So to me, I mean, y'all do much, I won't. 141 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:19,220 It'd be hard for me to do it on Thanksgiving. 142 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:21,800 Number one, I'm pooped out from cooking and traveling. 143 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:28,180 That's just been personal because I leave Wednesday, we go down and cook, and sometimes 144 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:30,680 I don't get home after I've been down Thursday. 145 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,580 Yeah, I think for our staff on the holiday weekend, 146 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:41,740 but to have to do that, 147 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:44,710 you know, 148 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:47,110 I would not want to personally ask them to do it. 149 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:48,330 I don't think it's given up. 150 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:52,450 The one thing that kind of strikes me, and like I said, 151 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,530 is that nothing art, art, art, 152 00:13:59,530 --> 00:14:08,530 particularly out, doesn't lend itself easily to a parade, a parade, and I know that 153 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:15,850 Christmas parades are great, but that is, in my opinion, half of the challenge is 154 00:14:15,850 --> 00:14:26,070 is that we don't have a clear, easy parade route that really lends itself where people can 155 00:14:26,070 --> 00:14:31,070 park easily and get to the parade route, watch it, and then get back to their vehicle 156 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:31,470 sees. 157 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:39,070 And stuff, you've been talking with you, I've mentioned East Ridge, and so I was looking 158 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:47,710 at that and had a discussion and chiefs out talk with them a little bit about what there's 159 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:55,790 are along that main road and stuff and but it's got all of those side roads to go off 160 00:14:55,790 --> 00:14:59,970 for people park, walk up and sit and watch the parade and then go back. 161 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:06,380 It's a little easier to get out, get back and forth. To me, that's probably one of the biggest challenges 162 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:13,740 is that we have looking at it. It's, it's, you know, where do people park to be able to walk to, 163 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:19,460 wherever we're doing it. So we could block or get the property over here again. 164 00:15:21,140 --> 00:15:24,800 All the businesses around here. They're going to be closed on the weekend. 165 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,140 And I know you said some of the business owners over at 166 00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:33,220 track-trust five shopping center, Vietnam, 167 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:36,980 they're good friends of mine who managed the lost 168 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:39,840 potterals, since they would love for it to have it there 169 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 because it brings business into them. 170 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,140 And it's, you know, they'd love to participate some of these 171 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:47,940 as well. 172 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,180 But I talk to track-trust of five, too. 173 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,880 And they had no objection because, again, 174 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:08,720 I didn't say that somebody said that, I'm just saying that that's when I was talking to you that they might object to it. 175 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:10,480 We haven't even had any conversations. 176 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:19,700 At the end of the day, one thing that we always have to remember, though, is that we're always working with the good graces of any of these businesses and staff. 177 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:24,360 and that we're holding a city event and relying on parking 178 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,420 that they provide to us if they want to. 179 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:32,300 The thing that concerns me is that one incident 180 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:37,240 and stuff if somebody trips and falls or something like that, 181 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:41,520 then we're looking at their looking at potential litigation 182 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,620 and stuff like that. 183 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,860 That is a concern that I don't think you can just dismiss after I was here. 184 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,280 No, but we've had that for a year. 185 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:48,800 Sure. 186 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:59,260 The fourth of July we've had it here for a year, I mean, and I know that we do an entrance policy over here. 187 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:02,000 What do we do on the McKee's property across the street? 188 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:03,740 What do you have? 189 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,000 What is that? 190 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,520 No, I don't know what it's called. 191 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,380 Police agree. 192 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:07,980 Police agree. 193 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:08,640 Yeah, yes. 194 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:09,500 Police agree. 195 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,320 So, you know, I mean, we've been doing it in both of July, just now all the businesses 196 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,400 is, in fact, there's some part of parking lot for hours. 197 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,300 It's probably from about five o'clock until 10 o'clock. 198 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:23,980 When everybody gets to clear that out. 199 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,560 I mean, we've got that. 200 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,520 We've got parking over at first horizon, 201 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,280 and some of those businesses up there. 202 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,320 We've got parking lot, 203 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,180 and you can go up to a high school, 204 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:40,720 middle school, and park there, and walk down. 205 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,240 I mean, there's a lot of places people can park at. 206 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:46,040 But I will tell you, I've been up to clean, 207 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:53,220 And on key street, their Christmas parade, it's the same top as probably East Bridge. 208 00:17:53,480 --> 00:18:00,140 I mean, we went over there at 819, we knew it was Christmas parade, and we parked down 209 00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:02,860 the side street because we can't get to the restaurant. 210 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:07,600 I just think that there's a lot of roads. 211 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:15,360 They have to be concerned with as well as us, but I think if we come up with a different 212 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,960 rate route everybody likes. I don't want to shut down ooloring or I think that's the main 213 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,940 thoroughfare we've got to keep open. 214 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:31,760 Could we talk to some of our office to work with us? Is this a staging area? 215 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:32,920 A lot to lean on. 216 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Well, remember Jack, three years ago, did not want. He said he can't protect the prey people 217 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:46,800 in the prey even at cell days. So that's why I was thinking that we shut down. 218 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:54,040 That's the pocket that lives in poor play and can come up the ball field through the ball field out. 219 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:57,660 Excuse me, but has anyone, do you say that no one's talking to the businesses? 220 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Has anyone talked to the church yet? 221 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:01,820 Yes, and they've sent the notes. 222 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,820 That right now they're not inclined to let us use that particular. 223 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:10,210 This is basically a book 224 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:14,620 for staging, I think. 225 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:18,500 University's good, I think, for my share. 226 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 The thing is having to deal with it the fact that you say private community. 227 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:28,060 And we have to, we'd have to do it before, can't do it Saturday night, but have we done 228 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:33,980 after or sundown, or now most schools are out for the whole week? 229 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,860 Now, not just, when's the Thursday and Friday? 230 00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:42,620 But most schools are going for the whole week, as parents have complainer, how much account, 231 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Georgia schools, surrounding schools, the kids are getting a whole week for, for thanks 232 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,500 given the share. 233 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:54,940 I'm still trying to understand the parade route. 234 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:59,280 So start stage over at the, at the, at the ballfields. 235 00:19:59,600 --> 00:19:59,820 Yeah. 236 00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:00,920 Come up the driveway. 237 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:01,420 Yeah. 238 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:03,060 Take a look. 239 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:03,740 I don't know. 240 00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:04,980 Is that a tenth of a mile? 241 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,460 Down to the intersection. 242 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,640 Take another look. 243 00:20:10,260 --> 00:20:12,640 So in, once you get the intersection, take a look. 244 00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:19,900 And then the parade will hug the westbound lanes going in, you know. 245 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:29,080 either side, it doesn't matter, it wants to get the X on like a U term and come back up, so everybody else can, you know, see it out, call it close. 246 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:29,380 Okay. 247 00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:34,280 The only thing is, is when they go this way, and they do the U term, go on back, and this side can't see the other side. 248 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:39,380 I think this guy down's twin year, and then Pride Blots end up at the Commons. 249 00:20:39,620 --> 00:20:42,160 What we're serving as park and spots for the Pride Blots. 250 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:45,800 And then they're already there for the second part of the event, the Christmas tree lighting. 251 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,120 because that would still lead you to the park. 252 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:50,080 You need to set over there. 253 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:50,340 Yeah. 254 00:20:50,380 --> 00:20:52,420 The cul-de-sac and front of the honor. 255 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:55,800 You just have the floats actually end up at Founders Hall. 256 00:20:56,020 --> 00:20:57,660 And they stage there that way they can attend. 257 00:20:58,100 --> 00:20:59,040 The Christmas tree lighting. 258 00:20:59,460 --> 00:21:00,480 Santa Claus arrives. 259 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:01,580 That's where they park. 260 00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:03,180 We just don't let it. 261 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:05,960 I just know a lot of people want to write down their floats. 262 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:07,500 Get out there. 263 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:08,380 Yeah. 264 00:21:08,380 --> 00:21:08,480 Yeah. 265 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,540 It would be difficult. 266 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,980 And they can go all the way through which her left and leave. 267 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,320 I 268 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:27,020 guess I would just have to be a condition of being in the parade as you don't get to leave that lot until the set time. 269 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,440 Can I offer a suggestion? 270 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,340 So we are the parade. 271 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:39,440 You also have about 50 ROTC cadets and they seem to be always the ones that are like, 272 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,360 where do I pick up the kids? 273 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:46,220 I'm supposed to go over here and I'm now being told to go over here and so we're going to have all these kids here. 274 00:21:46,220 --> 00:21:52,020 What if that's what you guys choose to do because you will have those people that have the animals 275 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:58,560 You know, depending on the weather and you want to get those animals home the kids stuff like that. If we designated 276 00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:04,180 We're gonna shut it off. If you want to keep going, you continue on to 277 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:09,820 Leone and then exit out into a wringle or if you want to turn it state when you have to be designated to 278 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:14,540 All right, we know flow it's three through seven. We're gonna turn in towards found us all 279 00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:16,500 than 8 through 12, we're going to keep going. 280 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:18,100 They just have to designate ahead of time 281 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:19,720 what they're going to do so traffic, no. 282 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:21,300 I think that works. 283 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:25,160 Luckily, we don't have animals anymore in our parades. 284 00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:27,820 I knew we'd just stop the dance in horses, 285 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:29,680 but I didn't know if anyone put like a cow. 286 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,480 The Supreme Council is back on the city on the city. 287 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,540 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 288 00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:39,280 Yeah, you shut up, I'm crazy. 289 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:45,600 It says that I've been in the four that people that have animals, either of their animals have a little 290 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:51,040 basket on the very end by your own contacts or they have their own people more round, scooted up. 291 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,260 No, no. 292 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:59,980 Lieutenant, would they be able to just, if they went right up, swan y'all, up to where the... 293 00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:06,500 back in, could they just pull over there to break down, did we just designate that as the 294 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:09,780 ending spot, where they could break down and then go? 295 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,260 Yeah, we just, we have it. 296 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:15,920 Yeah, we just, just out and off the right, right here at Fortlander's place, and like, hey, 297 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:22,560 you're, this is the list of people that should be pulling off into the back and parking area 298 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,380 to break down or what have you, and that will limit, 299 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,120 because if you tell parents that, okay, 300 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,220 my junior ROTC, this is where they're going to end up, 301 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,900 then you will have 50 cars already parked 302 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:40,220 there waiting to get their children. 303 00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:41,040 That's true. 304 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,620 When I used to believe in one middle school 305 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:45,460 where they picked up my bat, 306 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,260 I know I put my son up there many times, 307 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,060 and crazy into there, 308 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:54,700 I think when I'm back down to the, um, not all of them. 309 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,920 So I just wrote all my back down to where they originated, 310 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,380 Jacques Hatt wrote, and that wrote the show off. 311 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:01,640 And they just pulled in there and stopped. 312 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,980 That's where we used to have it. 313 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,220 And they walked from there on the way down. 314 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,880 There's a nice little wall. 315 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,260 People parked on the sides and everything. 316 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:11,320 And it seemed to work well for a while. 317 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:16,000 And we did the ballpark, which, that was fun, 318 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,060 because you want to use up all the little living park 319 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:19,060 way shooting it down. 320 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,340 But this year, this is the route chosen. 321 00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:28,220 All they have to do is walk in founder's hall to the beautiful 350. 322 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,020 The parking lot. 323 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:37,780 They can pick a, if you're on a float like a baseball team or something, tell them, they don't 324 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:42,040 let the behavioral case just wandered towards the parking lot, 325 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,120 but the only issue there 326 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:51,520 be your disassembly because someone, oh, I didn't, I signed up last minute and I didn't 327 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,260 know about this and we may tell them before you need people along. 328 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:57,740 Well, I want to see the Christmas crew lying and it could just turn into a little bit 329 00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:00,500 issue and that's what she used to do. 330 00:25:00,820 --> 00:25:02,620 Do you tell them they're getting cold with that point? 331 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,220 I'm sorry. 332 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:12,500 And the way that we do are is we find out what spot, what number you are when you get there. 333 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:17,540 don't designate ahead of time because people will show up late and then it just makes it harder 334 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:24,260 for other vehicles to get in place. So it would be a almost spot making a list and trying 335 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:32,160 to get it too. Well, and I think that's more doable than I could even be like a shared Google 336 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,700 sheet so you can get it on your phone. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't put, I would put it on my officers 337 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:42,500 are very good. I would put someone that was more seasoned to be paying attention to something 338 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:48,920 like that. And if I'm in the same position that I was last year where I was lining 339 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:56,840 everybody up, okay, you know, do you plan on pulling into founders all over, no, and then 340 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,440 I just marked that off and I share that as we go. 341 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Some people like the older cars or new sport cars, they may just drive when they go after they get through just going out when you drive the home. 342 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,580 So now changing for mine. 343 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,900 Commission, if you're here to do what the Commission is. 344 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:20,780 If you guys are open to letting us, because I was thinking about what you're about. 345 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:29,360 If we did that on the north side of down and made a new turn down by Exxon and came back this way and went back in. 346 00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:38,780 If you're open to letting us create the route and to something that we can manage a little easier, 347 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:44,980 I mean, if you're open to that, I think, and still have a lengthy parade route, 348 00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:50,320 I think that we might be able to give what you guys are wanting and stuff. 349 00:26:50,540 --> 00:26:53,380 So how long is the parade last last year? 350 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,940 I've been going to it. 351 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:55,340 I'm tired. 352 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:56,000 I was tired. 353 00:26:58,260 --> 00:26:59,740 It was a little bit over now. 354 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,560 And it was not a mile long. 355 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:04,100 How many participants total? 356 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:07,280 I think last year it was 60. 357 00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:10,400 It was cold. 358 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:11,460 It was cold. 359 00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:11,900 It was cold. 360 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:14,880 But I think I'm more than a handful. 361 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,740 Didn't show up because it was. 362 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:18,840 It was the coldest parade I've ever had. 363 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,700 That's one reason I didn't get it. 364 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,460 I walked it, it was very cold. 365 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:30,120 So are we saying set a start in Inspot and y'all decide how to get from point A to B, or? 366 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,600 I think if you guys are open to that, I mean, I think we can come up with something that'll be a little 367 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:45,060 easier to manage, but still have some to have a lengthy, long enough parade route and stuff. 368 00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:50,280 Yeah, I think that's a good suggestion, because I like the idea that if people are parked 369 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:57,840 over in that area and staff and then as seen as we're done, if they're all coming back 370 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,280 this way and going out that direction, that they can kind of pull off to the side, get 371 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,320 their staff together, and then either stay or continue on if they're not going to the 372 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,520 life. 373 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,640 What I like about that, too, is that I'm going to add some pot, I mean, I'm going to go out 374 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,580 while we're going over, if you didn't get some fight, if I get to the keys to war, or if 375 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:24,840 you need to do someplace else, I'll probably probably have ways to have a little David Parkway, 376 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,420 and most of the workers are charged ship after sundown on Saturday, I believe, except for the 377 00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:34,500 truckers, and they roll, I think. 378 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:43,900 Like, after 10, not like, you know, Sunday, but anyway, we know it's important for them so we won't be considered about that, but at least employees still have to get to. 379 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:58,500 And I like that, because if we're not extending out into the intersection itself, then people coming over the bridge from absent direction, then they still have options of which way they could go. 380 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:07,760 And ring gold, and then come from Lee Highway, same thing, is that traffic is going to be unimpeded. 381 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:16,460 Because we're Chris and I were waiting to hear back from Tita and to close that intersection down completely. 382 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,540 I think we're going to be concerning to them. 383 00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:26,240 The side Daisy has it too on a state highway, and Easter is a side Daisy and also it's keeps for you. 384 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,500 I can't remember the state. 385 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,040 You know the state road. 386 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,540 But it's not lying just like us. 387 00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:38,460 But more businesses and stuff. 388 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,560 So what about the date? 389 00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:45,650 That's the second wrinkle in that. 390 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:48,570 Is there a better date that would work? 391 00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:52,330 I think we need to think of him. 392 00:29:52,650 --> 00:29:56,290 Jim McKee has been very vocal, but not one ever, right? 393 00:29:56,790 --> 00:29:57,690 On a Saturday night. 394 00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:58,570 Pillight. 395 00:29:59,250 --> 00:29:59,810 Pillight. 396 00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:16,340 Public comment pre-speached— What time do they go to work over, what time do they go to work across 397 00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:17,280 the trots roll out? 398 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:24,520 But then, you had to understand, too. Waquie is a seven-day Adventist community. 399 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,860 So, they're very strict, I mean, for example, they don't donate things for football night, 400 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,660 for if you're in sports, they'll donate two schools for health and all that, but they 401 00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:41,680 don't play games, anything that's played on a Friday or Saturday, no, it's to boot. 402 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:42,860 So, after Sunday? 403 00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:43,540 So after Sunday? 404 00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:43,660 Until after? 405 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:44,340 Well, yeah. 406 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:45,940 But Sunday is not to Sunday. 407 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,520 No. 408 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,800 Saturday. 409 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:48,940 Saturday. 410 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:49,620 Saturday. 411 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:50,820 Saturday. 412 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:52,940 in the wintertime, Sunday at the 631? 413 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:53,840 Yeah. 414 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,080 So, each time after 631, I was sorry, not. 415 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,000 They can do things. 416 00:30:57,180 --> 00:31:01,380 I said, I had a lot of balls, soft balls, that plays. 417 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:02,220 I'm sorry now. 418 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:03,360 I know they did something. 419 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,380 I'm sorry now. 420 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,140 I thought it was with their school, but I didn't know what it was for sure. 421 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,480 And I think that, once you get to November, December, the sun goes down around 422 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,040 Bob 30. 423 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Because then, quickly. 424 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:20,300 And their discussions that they've that Connie has had, like, sure, she's not here. 425 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:27,380 that Connie has had with me is that as soon as it's sundown on that Saturday on the 21st, 426 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:31,820 because at that point they're shipping everything, all the little Christmas trees, 427 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:41,080 they're going out, close to coast that at that evening. And so that soon sundown goes, 428 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,580 is that that's at that point they're ready to ship things out. 429 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,680 I think the Christmas tree cakes would have already been delivered before that, 430 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:03,740 I'm just going off what she said is that that is when they have a lot of things going. 431 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,680 You would know. 432 00:32:04,820 --> 00:32:06,020 Out the door. 433 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:11,720 So we only have to shut down until nine max for everyone to clear out. 434 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,820 That's not a big delay for them. 435 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:30,090 It's not as much of an impact if we just say we're not closing down the Udwa, the four corners, I think there's a work around with that. 436 00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:31,250 A little bit at that point. 437 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:43,480 The 28th is the following Saturday and then December 5th is Saturday after that. 438 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:56,820 One thing I do want to point out is that Christina has been working on setting the dates for getting 439 00:32:56,820 --> 00:33:00,020 like market vendors and different things like that. 440 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:07,720 And she's not sure whether some of them at this point that she's already had them like Santa 441 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,800 is one instance that she's already had that set and stuff. 442 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,040 So, she'll do a best to get somebody else if it's a different date than what she is originally 443 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,760 set it on. 444 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:21,380 I don't know if we'd want a lot of vendors taking up our space for the price floods 445 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:22,300 but need to go. 446 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:22,740 Sure. 447 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:24,040 I'm there with you. 448 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,100 So, just Christmas tree lily. 449 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:31,140 It's an hour, maybe an hour and 15 minutes for the private cell. 450 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,100 Yeah, you have to operate and then press tree lighting. 451 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,000 People are going to be ready to go. 452 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,080 Thanks for coming. 453 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:39,520 Thanks for coming from the rest. 454 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,880 So 455 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,920 are you still thinking the 21st or are you looking at other things? 456 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,860 I don't really like the 21st, but, you know, that's the one. 457 00:33:56,860 --> 00:34:05,940 I think maybe after I don't, you know, usually Santa Claus comes in sometimes I'm Thanksgiving 458 00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:07,020 morning. 459 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,820 I have a lot of places I haven't come in then. 460 00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:15,860 I guess it's just me, my tradition of not having Santa Claus come in before. 461 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,520 I don't know. 462 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,780 I don't know. 463 00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:21,580 I don't know. 464 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:22,480 I don't know. 465 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,240 I don't know. 466 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:25,860 I don't know. 467 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:26,780 I don't know. 468 00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:26,840 I don't know. 469 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,580 What is Thanksgiving? 470 00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:27,880 What is it? 471 00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:29,960 It is the 26th. 472 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Yeah. 473 00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:30,600 Yeah. 474 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,280 I'm with you, Dave. 475 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Yeah. 476 00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:34,200 I think before Thanksgiving, it's just a little too premature. 477 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:35,500 I'm sorry. 478 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:39,120 You want to get Thanksgiving over with to get in the Christmas spirit. 479 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,420 And that Friday people hit Thanksgiving that morning after that. 480 00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:47,180 Because Easter is just, there's the Saturday after Thanksgiving. 481 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:48,900 There's the 21st. 482 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Easter is just, and there's on the 21st. 483 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,620 They're going to hit it that black Friday. 484 00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:57,060 So that would be, I mean, that's not Christmas decorations as well. 485 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:57,820 Yeah. 486 00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:59,040 It's not Halloween yet. 487 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,660 I got it from the commentator. 488 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,200 I got Halloween Christmas and Thanksgiving. 489 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120 How about 21st would be more accommodating for our staff, 490 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:08,080 that way they could have Thanksgiving weekend, 491 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:09,700 if they are going out of town. 492 00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:14,860 But I'm found whether they're the bigger thing I was concerned about 493 00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:17,900 is moving the parade back to the comments areas. 494 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:19,880 So we could do one larger band. 495 00:35:21,340 --> 00:35:24,180 Well, and I think Chris correct me if I'm wrong. 496 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:26,960 And it's that you guys would be able to do a lot of staging 497 00:35:27,940 --> 00:35:32,200 as on the few days beforehand and stuff 498 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,420 to have everything pretty much ready to set in place 499 00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:41,580 if we're condensing things to the round our events, 500 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:43,040 you know, footprint. 501 00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:46,360 You'll be able to get a lot of things set in place 502 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:52,740 and be staged so that it depending on which day you did it, 503 00:35:52,740 --> 00:36:05,360 that you would be able to, even if it was over that Thanksgiving weekend, is that they could quickly move and move things in a place on say that Saturday to get that done. 504 00:36:06,340 --> 00:36:06,380 Yeah. 505 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,980 One day I would like to use the places for the business that I talked with last year that may concern was the garbage. 506 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:21,140 People filling up the garbage cans. They ask that if if we could provide garbage cans on the property, then they can fill them up. 507 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,420 because they're overflowing, their garbage cans aren't big enough. 508 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,800 I don't know, ex-son and who is at the place right there 509 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200 by the Dollar Tree, by and there, 510 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:34,560 because people fill up their garbage cans. 511 00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:39,240 It's overflowing, and they need a bigger garbage can out there. 512 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:44,460 I mean, we provided cans for last year's Christmas breed, 513 00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,940 and similar to the Freedom Fest we could do that as well. 514 00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:59,230 Well, one thing I'm going to say, and I'm going to quit doing is just assuming silences, 515 00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:01,350 consent, or a scent. 516 00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:07,530 So, good, clear direction from you guys on the date. 517 00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:09,090 It's really what I need. 518 00:37:10,610 --> 00:37:17,190 I think, Alonio, to what you suggested about working out the plan with everyone involved. 519 00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:22,710 My concern is the date, that's the big thing, so what do you want me to ask? 520 00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:25,650 The dates don't be killed for many hours. 521 00:37:26,050 --> 00:37:29,910 I don't think we need to ask Connie to explain. 522 00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:43,990 We are going to all ring the open, and we will not be shut down. Is that impact? And ask for what our truck sir rolls out, because people can get to work. 523 00:37:45,550 --> 00:37:59,190 Yeah. Well, the trucks can't go through down the main street because of the train trussle unless they, well, no, because they have to go through it and return it. They have to come down parkways over the parkway in order to get out that way. 524 00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:00,330 It didn't matter. 525 00:38:00,410 --> 00:38:00,930 It did not matter. 526 00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:05,750 We were rolling because of the sun down and just about that time, it's great stories. 527 00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:08,490 Because they had to load up. 528 00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:11,170 Okay. 529 00:38:11,570 --> 00:38:15,050 You can ask, finally, that, and see what she thinks. 530 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:16,830 The net, the net should be brought up. 531 00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:17,170 Yeah, it does. 532 00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:20,670 I'm opening any suggestion after that. 533 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:21,630 They won't. 534 00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:25,130 We need to take a David up the top of the sun. 535 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:27,190 So we have 20 years open. 536 00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:29,650 When I check with Lee N. Yes? 537 00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:42,410 So are we saying the 21st of the 28th, or are we loosely, or the fifth, or the fifth, I don't want to go later than the fifth because nobody wants to go to Christmas tree lighting after they've already been looking at Christmas trees. 538 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:49,950 I think that I like where we've always said I'm the third, the first Sunday of each December, so we've always done it. 539 00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:51,330 When did we get the last year? 540 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:52,010 One day. 541 00:38:52,610 --> 00:38:53,170 The parade? 542 00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:54,810 The second Sunday. 543 00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:57,230 14th of December. 544 00:38:57,650 --> 00:39:00,230 So, we do it the first Sunday or the December. 545 00:39:00,670 --> 00:39:01,750 We're always used to do it. 546 00:39:02,130 --> 00:39:03,770 We did it the first Sunday of December. 547 00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:07,210 That is school life, though, because they're still in the bush. 548 00:39:07,390 --> 00:39:09,070 You're wanting to do a late night. 549 00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:12,090 Well, yeah, because school is out on this from the 17. 550 00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:17,690 Then, have to be that last weekend in November. 551 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:20,850 So, the kids would be out of school. 552 00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:29,270 The housing county is in school, at least in the two days of Thanksgiving. 553 00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:30,710 I don't have a couple of weeks 554 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,880 off, and as- 555 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:46,600 So check on the 28th and 5th to see my building. 556 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,060 Yeah. 557 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,620 I'll stick with it. 558 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,620 Currently, the 28th is open on the city calendar for the comments because of it being the holiday. 559 00:39:56,300 --> 00:40:01,620 And the fifth is pending already being booked. 560 00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:03,340 Okay. 561 00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:03,560 28. 562 00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:05,860 28 is on what day? 563 00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:06,560 Thank you. 564 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,420 Thank you. 565 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:09,100 Thank you. 566 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,280 I'm a Saturday after Thanksgiving. 567 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:10,840 I don't know. 568 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,660 That would kind of go online with the Black Friday 569 00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:14,880 and Santa Claus coming to town. 570 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:16,660 No, just places and stuff. 571 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,840 So why don't you check with Connie? 572 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:24,840 So, like we've got possibilities for the 28th. 573 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,980 Now, we have to thank anybody so we can have a nice given. 574 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:34,840 So, and then let us know, and then ask us, would you definitely prefer? 575 00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:36,320 No, okay. 576 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,340 We can respond to you individually. 577 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:43,620 So, I can do that. 578 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,900 And the rail. 579 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,860 Thank you, Lieutenant. 580 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,540 For a good idea. 581 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:55,940 All right. 582 00:40:56,380 --> 00:41:00,160 Moving on, the US flag veterans memorial park discussion. 583 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,420 We do have some members, one member, from the, 584 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:14,170 I always get a mixed up VFW, thank you. 585 00:41:15,370 --> 00:41:22,950 And so, I don't know if you've seen the agenda that management summary that I put out and stuff. 586 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:35,190 I proposed basically that we put out the bigger flag for flag day, which is falls on June 587 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:42,570 14th and then independent stay and we just keep the large flag up between flag day, June 588 00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:48,630 14th and independent stay and then take it down afterwards and then again on veteran stay. 589 00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:55,850 So, with that, I'll just kind of open it up to any discussion of what the commission thinks. 590 00:41:56,470 --> 00:42:00,310 What up to the commanders, Smith, back there on meeting. 591 00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:05,990 And he's perfectly fine to keep it at that 20 by 30 flag. 592 00:42:07,610 --> 00:42:10,810 He's trying to keep us from having an extra work as well. 593 00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:13,050 And I appreciate that. 594 00:42:15,730 --> 00:42:22,270 I think the 20-30 flag was a bit of a fly as better than the heavier flag, that was 595 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:26,210 back to the ones of those. 596 00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:31,310 My suggestion was only a starting point for the discussion. 597 00:42:32,270 --> 00:42:36,630 I think correct me if I'm wrong. 598 00:42:37,070 --> 00:42:37,470 I was sorry. 599 00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:45,010 I agree with you, but you correct me if you wanted what was suggested before for safety issues. 600 00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:49,770 are y'all more inclined to keep it 601 00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:52,010 and what y'all were suggested to begin 602 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:55,310 or do y'all think it's feasible to change it 603 00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:56,730 for the larger for these certain days 604 00:42:56,730 --> 00:42:59,690 because it does go close to the ground for half mass. 605 00:42:59,810 --> 00:43:01,010 It does fly, I know. 606 00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:03,750 Or in fact, it's capable of picking a man up 607 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:04,850 when the wind comes strong. 608 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:08,970 Justify that because my son flew it. 609 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:13,050 When he had the help, he would fly up in the air 610 00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:26,070 I think I loved it, you know, but I know Dennis had talked about that safety that he would be in more, that's my concerns, more safety. 611 00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:29,230 Do you have anything to say, sir? 612 00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:44,970 So one point I did, the confirmed size of our platform, so if it's 120 feet, it's all that is the minimum size to fly at 30 foot 5 feet before flying. 613 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:56,790 So that's telling you that whole just makes minimum the height because you should always average according to the maximum size of the height of the line. 614 00:43:57,450 --> 00:44:09,790 But that doesn't take into the mechanics that are built in this, so that it's the minimal for that size, but it may not be the minimal for the best capability for the mechanics inside the black hole and work it. 615 00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:19,350 But if we want to look at it, according to the black hole, the warranty flag is the characteristic flag, which is a 20 to a 30 to a 40 to a 40. 616 00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:27,350 And that is large flag as far as I need to alteration, so let the 30 foot left, let me put flag that usually, you know, 617 00:44:28,310 --> 00:44:36,630 camping world, and Mr. Leonis doing his, is a, or do you wish they also find for that protest, but, 618 00:44:36,910 --> 00:44:44,130 rolling out so, 20 by 38, the nearest flag, is the tip way to top it, is the largest flag, and of course you have flag, 619 00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:47,830 it's also large flag and flag on military installations. 620 00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:56,150 The one below that is usually found on non-Hallody, is the post-like which is a 10-fold 621 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:59,230 by 19-foot-like. 622 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,700 So, the most flag is 17 by 623 00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:49,940 113A, 8 foot, 8 foot look, 8 foot look, 7 foot, so it's a little smaller. Our recommendation is if we're going to fly the air supply again, we're going to get some flag up, because it is the smaller one we put up. It's not that drastically different from a visual standpoint, but it's there. 624 00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:56,240 30 by 50 up on the pole and, you know, it should be select holidays. 625 00:45:56,660 --> 00:45:58,540 We have organizations ourselves, 626 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,480 suitable high school, that can come out of and assist 627 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:12,900 the city if it's needed to raise and lower the flag, but then we look at which holidays 628 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:13,940 are going to choose from. 629 00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:18,720 So, you know, in US flag vote and in military regulations, there's a set number of holidays to 630 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:24,200 why the Lord is flagged on, but it also said that you can fly at a smaller version and 631 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520 a little bit of that one for saving experience. 632 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,740 And since we're not military, we wouldn't have to amount that back. 633 00:46:32,860 --> 00:46:34,040 Yes, but it is recommended. 634 00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:40,260 So for our organization to be up to the American Legion, are our servo-one, regularly, or 635 00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:46,480 bylaws, and servo-one or manual procedure, says the fall of the military, or US Army 636 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,180 to build a ceremony, manuals, and that covers the Yosami flag 637 00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:54,000 and needles, and everything, as well. 638 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,440 If an organization does not have a set standard, 639 00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:03,500 it is recommended to use the Army and Yosami manuals, 640 00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:03,800 et cetera. 641 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,620 So that's where we're making that recommendation 642 00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:11,260 to kind of follow what the military manuals say, 643 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,840 because they're in line with the Yosami flag code, 644 00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:15,480 but fly on those like holidays, 645 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:25,600 We can put the larger one up, and it says, but then again, if I come into watch holiday, 646 00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:31,720 we're going to get an I see on the notes, it's like a for the July, better in the day, 647 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,640 but I would argue Memorial Day is the most important. 648 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,540 And that's tough because it's half, half, half, half, half, half, half. 649 00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:44,340 It's half, half, half from sunrise and zoom, and you're putting it back on full staff. 650 00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:48,840 So there's some extra matter of labor involved to that. 651 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,500 But these days, schools out. 652 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,660 Let's just sit down here. 653 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,280 So unless you've got kids going to summer school, 654 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,140 or have them call out and get paid paid. 655 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,980 Well, Chris is saying normally does it. 656 00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:03,360 I don't know that we really will get to their mess 657 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,560 who would apply like that. 658 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:06,700 But potentially. 659 00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:07,580 Potentially. 660 00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:10,580 I mean, some support if it's not windy, 661 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,780 just to make sure the flag doesn't touch. 662 00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:18,780 But I think the 20 by 30 year round would be the best. 663 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,660 I agree. 664 00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:24,060 Yeah, you guys are the experts in the South. 665 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,060 I think we need to follow your recommendations. 666 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:34,720 And with that commission, what I'd like to do is to set it by resolution that that's what we're doing. 667 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,380 The most sure way to have consistency of what we're doing, 668 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:48,520 So there's not power of personalities and stuff like that saying, hey, we want this big flag or something is that that we have consistent action 669 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:54,760 We know what we're doing. So we'll bring it back in in resolution form to the flag size 670 00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:17,820 I think the poll is different too, it's supposed to be not 250 feet in my room. 671 00:49:18,820 --> 00:49:22,860 So that, I think some of the numbers were risk-spoken size when you threw that. 672 00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:25,360 So higher than 20 feet is the minimum standard. 673 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:25,880 Okay. 674 00:49:26,140 --> 00:49:29,740 For a 30 foot above 50 foot, I don't know. 675 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,240 I know the Athens flag poles of our 50 feet. 676 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,840 I don't know if I did look better about that after the meeting last week. 677 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,820 But they're out of the market to be. 678 00:49:39,260 --> 00:49:41,020 But they're a mechanics inside the flagpole, 679 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,180 or also designed specifically to fly that order flag 680 00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:45,780 or the heart-20. 681 00:49:46,060 --> 00:49:50,220 Is it minimal because of the set quarter higher flagpole? 682 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:51,660 But our recommendation, 683 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,500 and to be able to do, we're doing the air inside, 684 00:49:55,980 --> 00:49:58,680 is to put about 38 points on your round. 685 00:49:59,540 --> 00:50:01,720 20, about 20, about 38. 686 00:50:02,020 --> 00:50:04,520 20, about 30, about 30, about 30, about 30. 687 00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:11,620 Well, as we would say, but when your work is 20, but very deep, when you fall into the U.S. flag vote, 688 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,740 for sending it to the betterment, I think that there's more to the right. 689 00:50:15,060 --> 00:50:20,920 Before we, before I reach down, I'll make sure that I got the right work with him, 690 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:23,020 make sure that I got the exact right dimensions. 691 00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:25,840 Do not hurt in a slight 20, about 30 here. 692 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,940 We're up this 20, about 30, but we're there this 20, about 30 action. 693 00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:34,040 And this gentleman, he did this in the military. 694 00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:36,180 I do that. 695 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:36,520 I do that. 696 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:36,600 I do that. 697 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,340 I do that. 698 00:50:37,340 --> 00:50:40,940 I did a part two different. 699 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,260 I think that's where I got the two. 700 00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:45,000 Because he was talking about the bigger one. 701 00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:48,200 That our public out here was like a pattern to do something. 702 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:48,840 Whatever. 703 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,220 What I read is. 704 00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:51,120 And the reason. 705 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:52,280 I was so large. 706 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,000 Actually, our public was not the size that needed to be in order to fly. 707 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,320 That's why I think the public had some of the issues that they averaged it. 708 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,940 in the windcarts. Is it fair to say that's kind of disliked to refer to it as the 20 709 00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:07,140 about 30, and everybody knows it's the 20 about 30. 710 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:13,700 Okay, 711 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:29,780 thank you for coming, thank you so much. 712 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:39,580 The last item on the agenda for discussion was the consideration of changing department head 713 00:51:39,580 --> 00:51:42,020 or key manager vacation at Croules. 714 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:43,500 Kristen. 715 00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:49,800 So this is a follow-up to the discussion commissioner Johnson started last week. 716 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:56,000 John Michelle and I worked on the proposed accrual schedule that you can see listed there. 717 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:02,180 We feel that this is a good way to kind of do what we're trying to accomplish, and that's 718 00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:04,520 for crew experience leaders for those key positions. 719 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,500 We have not extended the vacation accrual capital. 720 00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:10,080 It still caps at the same number. 721 00:52:10,340 --> 00:52:11,340 Follows the same steps. 722 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,680 It just starts out a little bit higher with smaller increases on the same gears of service. 723 00:52:17,580 --> 00:52:17,640 The other. 724 00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:25,600 And the reason I honestly feel like we should do this again for recruitment, retention. 725 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:29,840 Also, key managers are salary employees. 726 00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:40,540 It's salary employee, just don't clock out at 40 hours. It'll take 60 hours for a month, like that, and it's the hours to comment their goals. 727 00:52:41,260 --> 00:52:46,880 Where the hourly employees, they don't have to say for the education. 728 00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:59,810 So, I know our key managers are putting in the time and doing a lot of extra work when it comes to the city. 729 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:07,720 One of the considerations that we've already been discussing even before this came up is 730 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:15,780 the possibility of expanding Compt Time, Compensatory Time, is that right now if you 731 00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:23,020 have over five years with the city we don't allow it and stuff we just pay out over time. 732 00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:31,400 But I think that is something that I'm not exactly sure what the thinking was when 733 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:45,580 And that was approved and stuff, but, you know, maybe it was to give newer employees the opportunity to get a few more vacation hours and stuff and just the eight hours that starts out. 734 00:53:45,840 --> 00:54:01,380 But one thing I would say is that it kind of works if we've been already having that discussion to open that up for all of the salaries, excuse me, all of the hourly employees to open that up, because I know that some would like to 735 00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:04,320 essentially have that instead, I would imagine, 736 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,840 some would like to use that. 737 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,580 And it works out for us as far as $1 wise. 738 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,840 It makes really not much of a difference. 739 00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:16,380 And that actually works in our favor if we 740 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:18,360 elect them have that as vacation hours. 741 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,880 It's still dependent on, because we're really 742 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,080 talking about two departments. 743 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,920 We're talking about the police and the public 744 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,000 works department primarily. 745 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:35,980 It works in their favor as far as their budget to manage their budget a little bit and then the department 746 00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:45,280 had always still have control of that to meet operational needs and staff is that they're not more obligated 747 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,020 and it is kept at, I believe, 40 hours and staff. 748 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:55,060 So, I know the salary studies complain of part of the hourly people for looking at their salaries 749 00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:02,080 correct. Let's say that again. When the salary study is finished, it looks at the hourly 750 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:07,320 employees as well and it knows what needs to be adjusted just like this. Yes, all employees on 751 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:14,340 that is, yeah. I have concerns with doing an increase on vacation hours just for management. 752 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,700 I mean, I've been an hourly employee most of my life and I know how that would feel to me when 753 00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:26,460 already getting. Management already gets the extra 1.5% for their retention bonus. Now they're 754 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:29,160 also going to recruit a higher rate. 755 00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:36,010 Well the cap is the same for like once you get to 20 years, 756 00:55:36,050 --> 00:55:42,830 for example, but I think kind of the the idea was two things first. We we do not have any trouble 757 00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:49,810 recruiting police officers public works laborers. We we have an abundance of applications and I can't 758 00:55:49,810 --> 00:55:52,530 exactly say the same for the key management positions. 759 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:57,110 The other consideration would just be the level of experience 760 00:55:57,110 --> 00:56:00,210 they're bringing in potentially, whereas the police officers 761 00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:02,970 is potentially maybe more entry level. 762 00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:06,210 If you have somebody who's walking into a leadership position 763 00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:09,090 with 10 years of experience, that could be something 764 00:56:09,090 --> 00:56:10,010 we might want to consider. 765 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,920 Because we have two class spaces found. 766 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:18,120 We've got the key managers and the hourly employees 767 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,380 if you will. And we depend upon our employees. 768 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:27,660 And it is easier to hire those, like you 769 00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:36,520 say, for the police officers or public works. And I know that from a corporate role, three 770 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:44,700 weeks is pretty standard to get when you are in salary, people, people, people. In position. 771 00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:49,560 And so I think it is, I personally think it's a good thing for the city to do. 772 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,020 Yeah, I think we need to stay competitive. 773 00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:58,560 And who are we taking into consideration what other local municipalities? 774 00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:06,760 As far as this, well, I guess I'll say separately what we talked about before with the compensation study. 775 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:12,260 I am actively working to compare all of the local cities and all of that. 776 00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:20,080 But I would say, I think we need to compare ourselves not only to the surrounding municipalities, but also like Commissioner Johnson said like the private sector. 777 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:27,960 And just knowing that I think key managers, especially, you know, maybe a police officer can only go to a city and be a police officer. 778 00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:35,080 But when you're looking at key manager positions, they could go to TVA to, you know, blue cross, whatever. 779 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,240 They have a little bit, I would say, more options as far as where they go as well. 780 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,620 I mean, I do what City of China go. 781 00:57:42,260 --> 00:57:43,620 So City of China, I do actually. 782 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:49,240 And they run on a PTO schedule, but I believe they start 783 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,940 in terms of maybe you can help me with this. 784 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,980 But I think that they start close. 785 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,040 Is it 28 days of PTO? 786 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,640 33 days of PTO, so that I would say is. 787 00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:01,540 Inclusive. 788 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:02,700 OK. 789 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,720 Just to counter argument, aren't we still being competitive 790 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:17,420 If we increase it for all of our employees and not just the management class, I don't think somebody's not going to take a job with us in a management position just because we increased it across the board. 791 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:28,680 I would agree with that. Maybe two considerations for that would be one budgetary considerations when you're talking about filling shifts like with a police department. 792 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,680 You're having to find somebody to cover those shifts. 793 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,820 The second thing would just be the expanded comp time. I think that is something we could definitely bring that for approval. 794 00:58:36,820 --> 00:58:41,220 If we wanted to also take this for approval, we could bring both at the same time and that would 795 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:46,080 allow all I really am pleased to have the benefit of basically accruing more vacation. 796 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,520 So it is sort of the same. 797 00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:54,200 How likely do the other departments of the police and public works have opportunities to earn 798 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,040 comp time? 799 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,800 It probably varies a little bit based on position, but I think that there's, I would say, 800 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:13,800 I'm just thinking of, you know, for Christy and for the court ladies and I mean there's others too, but just they came to mind. 801 00:59:15,820 --> 00:59:20,460 I think I'd be more comfortable if we're doing it at the same time, but we're also going to allow the comp time. 802 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,260 I feel like I don't want to leave our hourly employees thinking that they are so standard. 803 00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:34,000 Well, I think that's what we communicate through HR to them is we are looking at this and the top top limit. 804 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:43,060 Yeah, I think that's a great thing and if you all would be on board with like us bringing back at the next commission meeting both of those things, like you said, 805 00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:51,720 the comp time expanded for hourly employees past five years and then this vacation accrual schedule, I think that would be good. 806 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,120 Yeah, I think that sounds good. 807 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,220 Okay, thank you. 808 00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:58,780 And a lot of the corporate because it's so much time and effort into training, getting 809 00:59:58,780 --> 00:59:59,720 qualified people. 810 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:10,380 So we're talking for them. It's worth holding on to those people. And that's why we're going to favor trying to bring this to us. 811 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:19,570 We're clear on this. And 812 01:00:22,450 --> 01:00:25,590 next step would be commission reports. Anything? 813 01:00:27,130 --> 01:00:27,750 I've got to help. 814 01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:36,330 ready. All right. So three weeks now, trash we saw the dollar dinner or a dollar 815 01:00:36,330 --> 01:00:44,850 pre-store. Laying outside next to absentee. We all drive by daily. Why is it still there? 816 01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:52,270 Have we done anything about giving you a talk to them about picking it up, talking about getting 817 01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:54,670 some type of 818 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:03,080 rotten, not wrong with ticket, but this was the issue last year before as well 819 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,200 because I remember y'all have to go out there and speak to them. 820 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,260 I'm so sorry I've been out a couple weeks with knee surgery, but I'd be happy to have. 821 01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:15,560 No, but you got people that drive by, I don't know, that's, that's what brought me home. 822 01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:16,020 Sure. 823 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:16,960 They're tree right here. 824 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,200 Yeah, I mean, they don't have our A-created code case. 825 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,240 They just look bad for the city. 826 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,400 Yeah, they may have already created a code case. 827 01:01:24,620 --> 01:01:28,600 I just have to check them to see where that's all they need to do is be 828 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,220 going to do a dollar store. 829 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,380 And I noticed there are dumpsters behind the fence and so when you 830 01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:41,020 would check on that, they were supposed to be behind the fence. 831 01:01:44,570 --> 01:01:48,370 I know we ran into a similar situation behind the supercuts, 832 01:01:48,370 --> 01:01:55,750 for house subs and there was really bad flies and everything and yeah it was kind of 833 01:01:55,750 --> 01:02:03,630 concluded. Come to find out it was supposedly firehouse responsibility to have the dumpster 834 01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:10,870 emptied and lung storage short I was able to actually locate the number online for the 835 01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:17,230 over apparently had changed hands of who owned it and I was able to contact them and they were 836 01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:19,170 and what quickly contact proper management. 837 01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:21,550 So it was able to get resolved quickly, 838 01:02:21,690 --> 01:02:23,850 but it's not always that simplistic. 839 01:02:24,210 --> 01:02:26,970 Oftentimes, if there is a change in management or ownership, 840 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:29,010 and it very well may have. 841 01:02:29,330 --> 01:02:31,870 I know I can't really talk about the whole lot, 842 01:02:32,090 --> 01:02:35,610 but I did get an email today from Garrett 843 01:02:35,610 --> 01:02:39,290 and there's discussion about potential change in use 844 01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:40,030 of that building. 845 01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:43,970 And so it could be that that's part of what's going on 846 01:02:43,970 --> 01:02:44,690 with that whole thing too. 847 01:02:44,690 --> 01:02:46,630 Yeah, we've had some challenges with that. 848 01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:50,810 It's not that I'm opposed to it, I like to drink a lot of those into it. 849 01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:54,590 But there's traces laying around on the asphalt. 850 01:02:57,790 --> 01:02:59,950 The other one I have, I've mentioned to Chris. 851 01:03:01,490 --> 01:03:09,730 For lack of better words, there is a gumball top machine that people put a quarter in, and 852 01:03:09,730 --> 01:03:13,710 it gives them food in their hands so they can feed the ducks. 853 01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:17,010 Well, that hasn't worked. I know it three months now, 854 01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:20,090 according to the contact with me about it. 855 01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:22,910 She says you put a quarter in, it will about turn. 856 01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:28,350 I said, well, it's probably full of coins, but I'm surprised we have it out there, 857 01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:31,150 because we can't, I don't know why to keep it up, I guess. 858 01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:36,070 I'm not sure who put it there. I checked with Scotty Wheeler, 859 01:03:36,290 --> 01:03:42,590 who's been here 13 plus years. He's never been involved with removing quarters or 860 01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:45,930 a replenishing supply, so I'm not quite sure. 861 01:03:46,050 --> 01:03:46,570 Let's see what it looks like. 862 01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:47,330 Now that operates. 863 01:03:48,490 --> 01:03:50,970 Practice supply, and then a little girl come running up 864 01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:54,830 for the quarter minute in work, and so on. 865 01:03:54,970 --> 01:03:57,010 So apparently someone's been running a business at the pond. 866 01:03:57,370 --> 01:03:58,210 We have no value. 867 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,150 Or not, maybe the quarter is full. 868 01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:03,510 But did you give her a quarter back? 869 01:04:03,830 --> 01:04:05,130 No, it wasn't the end of the day. 870 01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:08,910 I know what he's talking about, 871 01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:14,210 because I spent my baby's up there, and it was always stuck, you couldn't. 872 01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:21,210 The daycare next to, um, um, uh, good morning, the road. 873 01:04:23,570 --> 01:04:28,050 The daycare is right past the daycare. 874 01:04:28,270 --> 01:04:30,910 There is, that ditch, T.D.D. 875 01:04:30,910 --> 01:04:32,550 never came and cleared that ditch out. 876 01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:41,180 They were supposed to weigh in with season or the wastewater people as I was looking at everything. 877 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,160 I don't ever know, we ever got truly resurrection on all that stuff. 878 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,420 And did you all drag a tire under the straight there? 879 01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:54,260 Because my answer do you were going to do that? 880 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,440 Okay, so go pass that a little bit. 881 01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:02,080 The new building that's been sitting there empty, that's for lease, whatever. 882 01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:10,300 When you look down at the last rock, I'll call it Pith, the last set of words with the 883 01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:16,100 greats on it, the water is the standing in there. It's like it's not slope rod or something. 884 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,500 I'll get you if you drove by today it's going to still have water. 885 01:05:20,540 --> 01:05:23,320 So I don't know why we don't look at that or... 886 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,220 Yeah, I mean that would be through Hamilton County typically because they do the water quality 887 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,240 aspects of the development. 888 01:05:31,660 --> 01:05:35,860 Yeah, TDOT, I know we've tried to have them come and clean the ditches on 889 01:05:35,860 --> 01:05:38,300 to our wringle, try to reshape them. 890 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:45,780 I don't know that they're full-staffed, think they're just trying to find the time and 891 01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:47,000 the manpower to do that. 892 01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:53,940 Yeah, because the first little, where dog wood is, the new set areas there, that first 893 01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:58,080 water that runs out, it just doesn't have any likes to go. 894 01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:01,740 In the second one, it's a little deeper for the ditch, 895 01:06:02,540 --> 01:06:06,180 but again, it backs up because you can't get any 896 01:06:06,180 --> 01:06:07,800 a pipe under the street. 897 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,560 We need an office and call. 898 01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:16,660 I reach out to TDOT and Hamilton County. 899 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,680 And the last thing I have to have is, thank you for taking care 900 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:33,220 or investigating, or the commission, there's a tractor trail that people were ordering food 901 01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:38,720 and it came in, packed full of food, and people would come in, but ow, it's certain how I 902 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:46,880 picked the food up, and the totagope, people say, hey, tractor trailer moved, and there's 903 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:56,000 rear-pandom axles, left a huge indention, and I guess it may be too hot, or I don't know 904 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:01,720 what it was to have even a truck, but Chris and his team has put up no tractor trailers. 905 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,000 So was it Scotty or somebody that tried to? 906 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:12,460 Yeah, we did, I was able to communicate with the company that was doing that, advise them 907 01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:19,140 issue they apologized, did indicate that they can't use that facility any more than need 908 01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:26,200 to find another location and they are waiting for information for me as far as the estimate 909 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:26,640 of repair. 910 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:27,960 Yes. 911 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:29,600 Thank you, Chairman. 912 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,960 Thank you. 913 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,740 I want 914 01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:44,830 to compliment Christina and her crew this weekend for the timbre event. It was probably received 915 01:07:44,830 --> 01:07:50,170 well by the public. It was fun. I think it'll probably be larger next year. Very fun event. 916 01:07:51,490 --> 01:07:54,850 And then I was going to ask, I need the T dot contact. We'll have a theme of T dot. 917 01:07:55,590 --> 01:08:04,030 For who we've been talking to, about shop on May and about that, something very, I'm going to 918 01:08:06,730 --> 01:08:22,170 I think when Eric was here, because Jerry Daniels who owned that shop, it was flooding and stuff, and T.O.T. on that great end of runoff. 919 01:08:23,250 --> 01:08:25,050 They told us the exact opposite. 920 01:08:25,570 --> 01:08:26,170 T.O.T. 921 01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:27,430 Yeah. 922 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:30,450 It was theirs and they weren't, we couldn't touch it. 923 01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:34,890 Yeah. Well, you've been said, hey, well, at our expense to fix the problem, we'll do it. 924 01:08:34,890 --> 01:08:37,130 And they, no, we don't want you to mess with it. 925 01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:38,210 Hmm, so. 926 01:08:38,530 --> 01:08:40,830 Because I don't know, Eric went out there and did stuff. 927 01:08:41,410 --> 01:08:43,310 It's a pretty deep hole for it. 928 01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:44,030 Yeah, it's not been out there. 929 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:45,350 You could easily break an ankle. 930 01:08:46,810 --> 01:08:56,470 They also need to work on, um, we've done it as a courtesy as, but they need to come out and fix 931 01:08:56,470 --> 01:09:00,590 not manny overheard. Before you get in the money with that street on the backside front of the 932 01:09:00,590 --> 01:09:06,750 health department, that room is bad. It's always got far holes in everything else and we went 933 01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:10,790 out and fixed it all the time. Head neighbors in my neighborhood go out and it's not even called us 934 01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:16,350 probably go out and don't see men so they're trying to protect the part of us because how can we 935 01:09:16,350 --> 01:09:23,210 kind of welcome out of the site? It's kind of like we're the redhead stepchild. You know we're at home 936 01:09:23,210 --> 01:09:30,170 back side and they haven't been coming out and to take care of that property. So I get calls 937 01:09:30,170 --> 01:09:35,030 haven't lately though. I've got calls about why I can be fixed the road. I'm not told 938 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:41,750 to call half county called T dot come fixed the road. I have been out there since 1999 and 939 01:09:41,750 --> 01:09:43,530 that's never been paid. 940 01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:55,580 Also there's some limbs that are fallen over. I just noticed that yesterday 941 01:09:55,580 --> 01:10:01,540 When I came with the cables come down because of the wind, if you go around this, you just 942 01:10:01,540 --> 01:10:07,660 drop that on the right side, big branches have come down over the cable and you're saying 943 01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:09,300 that there's still hanging there today. 944 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,660 And where is that location? 945 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:11,840 Hostory. 946 01:10:12,460 --> 01:10:12,700 Yeah. 947 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,400 Interrupted. 948 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,000 Back to church. 949 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,680 And when you go around the corner, it turns into Hostory. 950 01:10:18,580 --> 01:10:18,800 Right. 951 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,560 It's about like four houses on the right, there's some trees there and there's huge branches. 952 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,960 This is not going to be this thing in its kind of getting lower to the ground. 953 01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:32,400 This morning when I went out, it was there. 954 01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:37,980 I haven't checked because I met up this afternoon, but I thought somebody said call on that 955 01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:41,860 because yesterday it was, I don't think it was, I don't think it was, I don't think it was. 956 01:10:41,860 --> 01:10:45,700 The last people that call it was, it's cheaper for those that fix it when the line comes 957 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:47,340 down they don't want to sit in the ground. 958 01:10:48,180 --> 01:10:49,100 Yeah, that's what they call it. 959 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,160 No, it's that issue. 960 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,200 It should either be the county or EPB. 961 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:52,780 Yeah. 962 01:10:53,460 --> 01:11:00,580 The APB came out one time in my neighborhood, and fixed it with it, and that on the back side of our railroad tracks, it was coming down. 963 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,860 And they came fixed it because the poll was going to go over the tracks. 964 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,060 That would have been difficult problem. 965 01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:09,200 But they don't get angry. 966 01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:15,590 All right, morning, nothing further. 967 01:11:16,970 --> 01:11:19,650 I would say that I don't have a lot. 968 01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:27,370 Probably one of the biggest things I've got a due date for the application for the 969 01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:35,730 two-rism grant for those of you that I haven't shared this with is that we can get up to 970 01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:36,910 $100,000. 971 01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:43,890 We have to have a 50-50 match, so whatever we're putting in or whatever we're requesting, 972 01:11:44,170 --> 01:11:45,510 we have to have 50-50 match. 973 01:11:45,850 --> 01:11:53,390 Well, we already have $100,000 asked in our put-in to our budget, so I feel, we should ask 974 01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:59,470 We're another 100,000, that'll allow us to do some all of the way finding signs, but 975 01:11:59,470 --> 01:12:08,330 also could allow us to move forward with larger signs as far as a larger monument sign 976 01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:15,170 up on top of Abs and Pike coming in, it really makes a statement as people coming into 977 01:12:15,170 --> 01:12:16,410 our community and stuff. 978 01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:23,690 So working on that, Michelle's been helping with that, and that's going well. 979 01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:29,170 So I could say, keep my fingers crossed, and that's got to be in by the end of the week. 980 01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:30,290 So I'll have that completed. 981 01:12:31,530 --> 01:12:39,630 Other than that, and I'm not sure, I've given you the applications, the letters of interest, 982 01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:42,550 for the airport board. 983 01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:52,390 My hope on that is or request is that you guys take a look over for those and you will 984 01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:52,870 send that. 985 01:12:53,050 --> 01:12:58,090 We'll just do that the same process that we did for the industrial development board. 986 01:12:58,470 --> 01:13:00,710 Just send me your top five. 987 01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:02,210 I'll take those votes. 988 01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:09,330 And at the next meeting of the City Council, which will be on the 8th of September, 989 01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:13,670 But we'll put that on the agenda for you guys to get them. 990 01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:22,250 So if I can get those back later, no later than the second, which is the Wednesday before 991 01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:27,310 the Memorial Day, that would be greatly appreciated. 992 01:13:27,810 --> 01:13:31,650 So sooner than the better I can get that and get that out of the way and ready to go. 993 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:39,560 I was quite pleased with some of the fairly sharp individuals who put in that, so that's 994 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:39,780 Sorry. 995 01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:40,540 Very good. 996 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,240 And then it's all I have with that. 997 01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:47,780 There's no other items to will adjourn. 998 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,220 All right. 999 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,020 Thank you.