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Commission workshop to order. First of all, I want to welcome everybody and welcome guests. Thank you for attending. The first thing for discussion is the Christmas parade discussion. As we talked about this one thing that I want to start out with is just the acknowledgement kind of set my just

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my reasoning here for

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this is that I think we've all been in situations in our employment careers where we've worked

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for jobs, worked for bosses, sometimes it's just that they didn't want to hear whatever

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they didn't want to hear, disinction and stuff.

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If you had concerns, they weren't really interested in stuff.

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One thing that has kind of struck me is that it's not the kind of thing that I want to do

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As far as that, if there are concerns, if there are, you know, just some thoughts that I want all employees to kind of feel free to share those and to make those known and stuff.

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It's not meant to be a turn in to just a debate or to become adversarial.

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It's just that I think about things like the O-rings on the challenger is that that was a known problem, but nobody from below said anything.

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and never did go upwards and so then there was a challenger explosion so from

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that standpoint we're not dealing with anything like that big but also at the

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same time I want us to you know if staff have concerns is that feel free to

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bring them to me and then I'm not just gonna sit on them I'm gonna bring those

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for the to the commission to that hear the concerns that are raised and and then

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go from there. Ultimately I think we all all staff acknowledge is that the decisions

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that are made in the direction that is given that comes from the commission. We fully understand

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that we fully support that and understand the process and everything but we also appreciate

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the fact that you know that we can have these open discussions to make sure that we're making

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and good decisions on behalf and for the community.

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So I just think it's important for us

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to kind of start from that standpoint.

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And that's my objective here is just to, again,

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if I'm hearing concerns, I feel that you guys

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want me to pass mom and not just set on and stop.

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So from that, one thing I will say is Lieutenant Herko

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is here to fourth police assistant chief heath is getting married so that is

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something that they had already planned they asked me I felt I could handle

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this a little bit and so I that is why chiefs happen and chief heath aren't

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hearing stuff so but gets into too much logistical I'll let will have lieutenant

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in her co-discuss to answer any questions, but I think we should be good.

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Overall, I gave you the notes that we're put together, again, like I said, but don't

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want to get into debate.

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It was just that we wanted to be able to voice our concerns to you, and so from that standpoint,

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it's just that some things that kind of jumped out at me that I wanted to make note of.

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The parade route would affect five major intersections, that was pointed out.

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It's stated that it created a greater disruption to normal traffic flow than we experienced during our annual independence day celebration, as presented as kind of disgust of that.

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All right, if we close the Uduaw Ringold Apsen pike intersection, I'm thinking about folks that are coming up south up Ringold that are coming from Lee highway that are coming over the bridge up on from Apsen where do they go if we had that completely blocked off and staff for an extended period of time so from that standpoint, there's just a few concerns about that parade route.

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being in the dark that provides creates a little added specter of safety for anybody

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walking it if we open it back up after we're after we're done what does that mean for

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pedestrians that might be needing to cross roads and that sort of thing so there's a few

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concerns about that. As far as police and staffing and emergency response all

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hands response from police department and there's just a little bit because we

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have a lot of intersections and traffic to kind of the managing at that

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point and so police were concerned we would have enough hands on deck to be

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able to do that and so those are just some of the issues I'm trying to

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looking over some of the things I've highlighted.

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Essentially, we're talking about a, you know, we,

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when we have our July, we're just in this space,

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but we're creating an event space that's

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about a mile or a long or so.

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And so that creates a little bit more challenge.

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And then just also the parking itself,

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the community church parking lot,

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not sure that it's going to be available.

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they're at this time, they've indicated a test, they're not inclined for us to use a sparking lot, and just some other concerns.

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So that is really like I said, that's really all I really wanted to just kind of share that information.

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At the end of the day, if the commission is like this is what we want, this is the date that we want it, then staff will do our dead level best

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to have the event, make it try to do our best to keep it safe for everyone and ensure

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the safety of everyone and put on the best possible event as much as possible.

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With that, I'll open it up for discussion.

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Massive quick question, since Chancellor, for safety reasons and everything, you've been

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and her love that she known all the routes that we've done.

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What do you suggest is a good route to you?

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For everything that we are trying to do as a community,

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6.30 in the evening, on a Sunday night.

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Saturday night.

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Saturday night.

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Me personally, I think the best is what we did last year.

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But you can't do it as Saturday night on church property.

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Yeah, because the University, it's the 17th school property.

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So, but you asked me what the best route was.

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And I think last year, with everyone lining up on,

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what is now innovation derived, taking it down the university,

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and then everyone exiting out onto the church

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and school parking lots, like we did last year.

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I think that that is the best option.

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But as the chief, the assistant chief,

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and Lieutenant Booth, all of us have discussed.

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whatever y'all tell us to do, we will get it done the best thing that we possibly do.

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But would Sunday be an option to that Sunday instead of Saturday?

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Because after the sun goes down on Sunday, then it would be open.

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Yeah, I apologize.

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I understand what this was going to be Sunday.

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The only problem with the school, I think that was a good one.

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Concerns we had.

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Which I've got November.

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So I got a couple of suggestions and I, you know, I do appreciate the bus mayor and

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what she came up to start this discussion.

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I still think, me personally, the best route is to have people go into the ball field, line

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them up that way.

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They come out and go left a little bit far away, left some pipe at the red light, and

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the red ought to be closed one lane so they couldn't come all the way over into, because

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they'd be in the storage line.

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I know there's a risk, but we can put up barriers and stuff to kind of

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combat that short distance from the ball build to the red light there.

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Take a left on absent pipe and go down one side of absent pipe,

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making you turn at Exxon, come back up, and then go back into the ball build

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I don't remember how many people participated last year, how long it was.

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I think last year was a little bit smaller than anticipated because it was below freezing.

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It was very cold.

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I've been very vocal about two things.

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One, I think we need to combine both events into one.

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I think we'd have better crowds.

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Secondly, I've been very opposed to doing it on school night because I think that detracts

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from families.

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Sunday nights are tough.

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Parents are trying to get their kids back in the groove to go to school the next morning.

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What if we did it on Thanksgiving night?

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You've got families in town, you've got a lot of people in town.

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They're looking for something to do other than a $20 movie ticket.

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What if we did a Sunday night?

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Christmas parade and combined both into that night, it would avoid Sabbath.

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McKee is going to be shut down.

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I think traffic should be considerably lighter on Thanksgiving night.

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Would that be?

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A Thursday night?

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And it doesn't.

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Nothing allowed.

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I mean, all of our family comes to our house, so we've got 25 people looking for something

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to do.

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Because we do the our family does the boat parade every single year of the Friday

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after Thanksgiving for us that's a family tradition and I think it's a chance to do something

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very similar here.

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I don't just you know you were talking about what's

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for your you know your family and I understand that I see where you're coming from.

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much of it left, so we try very much to get together. So to me, I mean, I'll do much

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I won't, but it'd be hard for me to do it on Thanksgiving. Number one, I'm hooked

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out from cooking and traveling. That's just been pressure because I leave on Wednesday

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we go down and cook and sometimes I don't get home after midnight Thursday.

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Yeah, I think for our staff on the holiday weekend, but

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to have to do that, and

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not personally ask them to do it on Thanksgiving.

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The one thing that kind of strikes me, and like I said,

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is that nothing, our particular

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layout doesn't lend itself easily to a parade. I know that Christmas parades are great but

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that is half, in my opinion, half the challenge is, is that we don't have a clear, easy parade

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route that really lends itself where people can park easily and get to the parade route

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not watch it, and then get back to their vehicles easily.

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You know, talking with you, you mentioned East Ridge, and so I was looking at that and

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had a discussion and chief SAP talk with them a little bit about what theirs are along that

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main road and stuff, but it's got all of those side roads to go off where people park, walk

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up and sit and watch the parade and then go back.

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It's a little easier to get out, get back and forth. To me, that's probably one of the biggest challenges is that we have, you know, looking at it. It's, you know, where do people park be able to walk to wherever we're doing it? So, we can block or get the property over here again. All the businesses around here, they're going to be closed on the weekend.

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And I know you said some of the business owners

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was over at tractor supply, shopping center,

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and didn't want it.

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Good friends of mine who managed the lost potroads,

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said they would love for it to have it there

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because it brings business into them.

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And they'd love to participate in some of these as well.

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How to tractor supply too.

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And they had no objection because, again,

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people come into business.

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I didn't say that somebody said that, I'm just saying that that's when I was talking

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to you that they might object to it.

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We haven't even had any conversations.

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At the end of the day one thing that we always have to remember though is that we're always

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working with the good graces of any of these businesses and staff and that we're holding

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a city event and relying on parking that they provide to us if they want to. The thing

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that concerns me is that one incident and stuff, if somebody trips and falls or something

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like that, then we're looking at their looking at potential litigation and stuff like that.

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That is a concern. That I don't think you can just dismiss.

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Yes, we have to always know that we've had that for years. Sure. Fourth of July. We've had it here for years. Sure. I mean, and I know that we do

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Let's entrance policy over here. What do we do on the key property across the street?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know, I mean we've been doing it in most of July, just now all the businesses

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practice for parking lot for hours is probably from about five o'clock until 10 o'clock when they

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like it cleared out. I mean we've got that. We've got parking over at first horizon and some of those

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This is so clear, we got to get parking lot.

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And you can go to a high school, a middle school,

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and park there, and walk down.

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I mean, there's a lot of places people can park.

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But I will tell you, I've been up to Cleveland.

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And on Key Street, their Christmas parade,

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it's the same type as probably East Ridge.

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I mean, we went over there to eat one, then, and we did

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know it was Christmas parade.

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And we parked down a side street.

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because we can't get to the rest of them.

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I just think that there's a lot of roads.

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They have to be concerned with, as well as us.

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But I think if we come up with a different playground

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that everybody likes, I don't want to shut down

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the little area of the road.

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I think that's a major affair with that path.

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Keep open.

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Could we talk to some of our films to work with us?

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Is this a staging area? Is there a lot to lean on?

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Well, remember Jack, three years ago, did not won't he?

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He said he can protect the prey, people in the prey,

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even at sold eggs.

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So that's why I was thinking if we shut down

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that's the pocket in the parkway,

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it hadn't come up to the ballroom.

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Do the ballroom go out and not keep me there?

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Has anyone, do you say they know what's

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talk to the businesses, has anyone talked to the church yet?

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Yes, and the notes is that right now they're not inclined

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to let us use that parking lot.

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This is basically what we're

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staging up.

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University is good, I think, from last year.

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The thing is, having to deal with it,

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the fact that you say private community,

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and we have to do it before you can't do it,

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sorry not, but have we done after or sundown?

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are now most schools are out for the whole week, not just when they're out Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.

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But most schools are going for the whole week, as parents have complained about Hamilton County, Georgia schools,

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surrounding schools, the kids are getting the whole week, but thanks again in the shift.

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I'm still trying to understand the parade route, so start, stage over at the, at the ball fields.

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Yeah. Yeah. Come up the driveway. Yeah. Take a lie. I don't know. Is that a 10th of a mile?

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Down to the intersection. Take another one. So, and once you get the intersection, take a lie and then

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the pray will hug

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Westbound lane going in, you know, either side. It doesn't matter and once they get the X on make a U-turn and come back up

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So everybody else can, you know, see about all of those.

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The only thing is is when they go this way

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and they do the U-turn, going back,

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and this I can't see you inside.

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Okay, they just go down Swinier,

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and then Parade Floats end up at the Commons.

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We reserve those parking spots for the Parade Floats,

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and then they're already there for the second part

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of the Van the Christmas tree lighting.

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Because that would still leave enough power to-

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Wait, do you want the cul-de-sac over there?

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Yeah, the cul-de-sac in front of the auditorium.

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just have the floats actually end up at Founders Hall and they stage there

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that way they can attend the Christmas tree lighting. Santa Claus arrives that's where

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they park. We just don't let... I just know a lot of people want right down their

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floats and get out there. Yeah, it would be difficult. And they can go all the way

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through which are left and leave. They go all the way gas hungry.

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I guess I would

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have to be a condition of being in the parade is you don't get to leave that

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a lot until the set time.

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You know, first suggestion.

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Sure.

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So part of the parade, you also have about 50 ROTC cadets

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and there, they seem to be the always the ones

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that like, where do I think of the kids?

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I'm supposed to go over here and I'm now being told

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to go over here and so we're gonna have all these kids here.

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What it, that's what you guys choose to do

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because you will have those people that have the animals,

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you know depending on the weather they want to get those animals home the kids

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stuff like that. If we designated we're gonna shut it off. If you want to keep

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going you can continue on to Leland and exit out Uruguay Ringo or if you want to

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turn it state but you have to be designated too. All right we know flow it's

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three through seven are gonna turn in towards founders hall but then eight through

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twelve we're gonna keep going. They just have to designate ahead of time what

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they're going to do so traffic knows. I think that works.

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Luckily, we don't have animals anymore in our parades.

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I know we need to stop the dancing horses, but I didn't know if anyone put like a cow.

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I mean, we're bringing cows back out in the city.

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No, we're not going to have a cow.

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Yeah, you should. I don't want to praise it.

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And since I've been in before, the people that have animals,

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either of their animals have little baskets on the rear ends,

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What are your comments? Are they have their own people going around scooping it up?

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No, I'll tell you.

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Lieutenant, would they be able to just, if they went right up,

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swing your up to the, whether it's the back end?

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Could they just pull over there to break down,

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that we just designate that as the ending spot,

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where they could break down and then go?

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Yeah, exactly.

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We could just have an officer right here at four corners,

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place and like hey, this is the list of people that should be pulling off into the back-and-parking

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area to break down what have you. And that will limit because if you tell parents that okay,

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my junior ROTC, this is where they're going to end up, then you will have 50 cars already parked

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They're waiting to give their children.

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That's true.

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When they used to leave them at Udawa Middle School

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is where they picked them up at.

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I know I've picked my son up there many times.

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And praise into there.

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Or they went on back down to the, not all of them.

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So I just wrote all my back down to where they originated

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as Jacques had wrote.

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And that road was shut off.

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And they just pulled in there and stopped.

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That's where we used to have it.

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And they walked from there all the way down.

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It's a nice little wall.

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People parked on the sides and everything and it seemed to work well for a while then we did the

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Ballpark which that was fine because you want to use up all the little living for our way shooting it down

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This is the route Joseph. Yeah, all they have to do is walk in founders hall to the beautiful

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350 exactly

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That kid if you're on a float like a baseball team or something

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I don't let the annual case just wander towards the parking lot, but the only issue there

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would be your disassembly, because someone, oh, I didn't, I signed up last minute, I didn't

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know about this, and when they tell me they're full, you need to keep moving along.

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Well, I want to see the Christmas pre-lying, and it could just turn into a little bit of

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an issue, and that's where she goes.

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You tell them they're getting cold with that point, I'm sorry.

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And the way that we do ours is we find out what spot, what number you are when you get there.

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We don't designate ahead of time because people show up late.

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And then it just makes it harder for other vehicles to get in place.

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So it would be on the spot making a list and trying to get it too.

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Well, I think that's more doable than...

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Then it could even be like a shared Google sheet so you can get it on your phone. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't put I

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Would put it on my officers are very good

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But I would put someone that was more seasoned to be paying attention to something like that

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And if I'm in the same position that I was last year where I was lining everybody up

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Okay, you're

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Do you plan on pulling into founders hall or no, and then I just marked that off and I share that as we go

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Some people like the older cars or new sport cars.

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They may just drive, you know, when they go after they get through just going out

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when you're driving home.

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So now, changing the mind.

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Commission, if you're hoping to do what the commission asked for.

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If you guys are open to letting us, because I was thinking about what you're around,

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if we did that on the north side of down and made a U-turn down by Exxon

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and came back this way and it went back in is that if you're open to letting us create

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the route into something that we can manage a little easier, I mean if you're open to

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that I think and still have a lengthy parade route I think that we might be able to give

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what you guys are wanting and stuff.

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So how long did the parade last last year?

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I didn't go to it.

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Out.

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About a year, a little bit over now.

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And it was about a mile long.

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How many participants total?

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I think last year, it was 60.

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And it was contrast.

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But I think more than a handful didn't show up because it was.

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It was the coldest parade day ever.

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Yeah.

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That's one reason I didn't get it.

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I walked it.

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It was very cold.

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Sir, are we saying set a start and end spot and y'all decide how to get from point A to

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B?

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I think if you guys are open to that, I mean, I think we can come up with something that will

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be a little easier to manage, we'll still have some to have a lengthy, a long enough parade

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route and stuff.

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I think that's a good suggestion.

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Because I like the idea that if people are parked over in that area and staff and then

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as soon as we're done, if they're all coming back this way and going out that direction

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that they can kind of pull off to the side, get their stuff together, and then either stay

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or continue on if they're not going to the line.

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What I like about that route too is they can go out, I mean, they can go out, we're

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going to the road. If you need to get someplace, I can get to the keys to work. Or if you

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need to someplace else over on the highway, you still have a little daily parkway. And most

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of the workers are third shift after sundown on Saturday, I believe. Except for the truckers.

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And they roll, I think. Like after 10?

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But anyway, we know it's important for them so we don't want to consider it that way.

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But at least employees still have a way to get to.

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And I like that because if we're not extending out into the intersection itself,

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then people coming over the bridge from the opposite direction,

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then they still have options of which way they could go.

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And I can turn around and go back up.

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and wringled and then come from Lee Highway same thing is that that traffic is going to be unimpeded and stuff because we were Chris and I were waiting to hear back from TIDA and to close that intersection down completely I think was going to be concerning to them.

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So, the second wrinkle in that is there a better date that would work.

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I think we need to think about it.

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Your McKee has been very vocal, but not won him right on a Saturday night.

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Polite.

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Polite.

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I understand that because, I mean, I understand concern, but workers, he'll be finished if we start 630, he'll be through by.

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What time do they go to work, or what time do the trucks roll out? But then you got to understand, too, my key is it's a seven day Adventist community. So they're very strict. I mean, for example, they don't donate things for

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football night for if you're in sports they'll donate to schools for help and all

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that but they don't play games anything that's played on a Friday or a Saturday

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no it's taboo until after sundown until after well yeah that sundown's not to

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son no Saturday Saturday it's a wintertime sundown at 631 so each time after 631

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And I think that once you get to November, December, the sun goes down around 5.30.

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It goes down quickly.

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And they're in discussions that they've, that Connie has had.

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She's not here, that Connie has had with me is that as soon as sundown on that Saturday

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on the 21st, because at that point they're shipping everything, all the little Christmas

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trees that they're going out from coast to coast, at that evening.

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And so, as soon sundown goes, is that that's at that point they're ready to ship things

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out.

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I would think the Christmas tree cakes would have already been delivered before that before Thanksgiving. Yeah, but that they have a big push then because schools use them.

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I mean into the stores and everything but it buys bottom up for schools and I'm just going off what she said is that that is when they have a lot of things going.

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You would know out out the door. So we only have to shut down until nine max for everyone to clear out because that's not a big delay for them.

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It's not as much of an impact if we just say we're not doing, we're not closing down

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the four corners, I think there's a work around at that, a little bit at that point.

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The 28th is the following Saturday and then December 5th is the Saturday after that.

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One

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thing I do want to point out is that Christina has been working on setting the dates

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for getting like market vendors and different things like that and she's not sure whether

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some of them at this point that she's already had them like Santa is one instance that she's

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already had that set and stuff so she'll do her best to get somebody else if it's a

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different date than what she has originally set it on.

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I don't know if we'd want a lot of vendors taking up our space where the parade floods would need to go.

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So just Christmas tree lilies.

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Maybe an hour, maybe an hour and 15 minutes before the parade itself.

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Yeah, you have a parade and then Christmas tree lighting.

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People are going to be ready to go.

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So it makes things easier.

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Thanks for getting from the restaurants.

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So are you still thinking the 21st or are you still looking at other things?

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I don't really like the 21st but I think maybe after or I don't usually Santa Claus

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comes in sometimes on Thanksgiving morning, a lot of places haven't come in then.

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I'm not I guess it's just me my tradition of not having said a cross come in before

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I need to get with David for the calm the 21st was available I checked

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okay I didn't check the 28 is the 26th yeah I'm with you Dave yeah I'm I think

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before Thanksgiving it's just a little too premature so like you want to get

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Thanksgiving over with to get in the Christmas spirit and that Friday people hit Thanksgiving that morning after this.

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These regions there's the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

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This is the 21st.

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East region and there's on the 21st.

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They were going to hit that black Friday, so that would be rough.

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I mean, they've got Christmas decoration as well.

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Yeah.

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It's not even Halloween yet.

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I got a combination of Halloween Christmas and Thanksgiving.

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I thought 21st would be more accommodating for our staff that way they could have Thanksgiving

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weekend if they are going out of town, but

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I'm fine with either the bigger thing I was

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concerned about was moving the parade back to the commons area so we could do one large

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event.

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Well and I think Chris correct me if I'm wrong is that you guys would be able to do a lot

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of staging on the few days beforehand and stuff to have everything pretty much ready to set

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in place if we're condensing, condensing things to our events, you know, footprint. You'll

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be able to get a lot of things set in place during the stage so that depending on which day

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you did it, that you would be able to, even if it was over that Thanksgiving weekend, is

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that they could quickly move things into place

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on, say, that Saturday to get that done?

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Yeah.

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One thing I would like to is the places

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for business that I talked with last year,

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their main concern was the garbage.

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People filling up their garbage cans,

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they asked that if we could provide garbage cans

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on the property then they can fill them up.

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And so because they're overflowing,

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their garbage cans aren't big enough.

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I know Exxon and who was at the place right there by the Dollar Tree, right in there, because

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people fill up the garbage cans and it's overflowing and they need a bigger garbage can up there.

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I mean we provided cans for last year's Christmas break and similar to Freedom Fest we could

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do that as well.

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So

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one thing I'm going to say and I'm going to quit doing is just assuming silence is

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consent or a scent.

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So good clear direction from you guys on the date is really what I need.

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Okay.

444
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I think allow you to what you suggested about working out the plan with everyone involved.

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My concern is the date.

446
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That's the big thing.

447
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I think we need to ask Connie to explain to her that we are only going to bring her open and we will not be shut down.

448
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Does that impact and ask her what time her truck rolls out because people can get to work.

449
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Yeah, well the trucks can't go through down the main street because of the train

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trussle unless they don't know because they have to go through it and return it.

451
00:37:54,830 --> 00:38:00,250
They have to come down parkway, go to the parkway in order to get out that way to do that.

452
00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:04,630
They're not going to be rolling because the sun down and just about that time with

453
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:08,110
great stories, because they have to lower them.

454
00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:10,880
Okay.

455
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,780
You can ask Connie that and see what she thinks.

456
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,700
And that shouldn't be a problem.

457
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,260
It doesn't.

458
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,280
I'm open to any suggestion after that.

459
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Date wise.

460
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,720
Do we need to check with David at the commons?

461
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:25,880
I'm sorry.

462
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,080
We had the 23rd open.

463
00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:29,400
When I checked with Leon, yes.

464
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,360
So are we saying the 21st or the 28th?

465
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,980
or loosely or I don't want to go later than the fifth because nobody wants to go to Christmas

466
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:45,420
tree lighting after they've already been looking at Christmas trees. Yeah. I think the I like

467
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:49,880
when we've always sent them the third, the first Sunday of each December's how we've always done it.

468
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,440
When did we do it last year? One day. The parade, the second Sunday.

469
00:38:56,100 --> 00:39:03,060
14th of December. So we do it the first Sunday. We always used to do it. We did it the first Sunday

470
00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:07,000
of December could be a school life though because they're still in the

471
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,680
position. You're wanting a late night one. Yeah, because school is out on this

472
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:19,240
around the 17. Then have to be that that last weekend in November. So the kids

473
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:20,340
would be out of school.

474
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,540
The Hamilton County is in school at least the two days of

475
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:45,800
So check on the 28th and 5th to see my building.

476
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:55,460
Yeah, currently the 28th is open on the city calendar for the comments because of it being the holiday.

477
00:39:56,380 --> 00:40:01,400
And the 5th is pending already being booked.

478
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,540
Okay. 28. 28th is on what day?

479
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,000
I think it's better than a week.

480
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:07,300
Thank you.

481
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,100
Is Saturday after Thanksgiving?

482
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:10,700
No.

483
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:12,900
That would kind of go online with the

484
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,720
Black Friday and Santa Claus coming to town

485
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:15,480
in other places.

486
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:15,960
And so.

487
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:19,880
So why don't you check or call me.

488
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:23,760
So like we got a possibility for 28.

489
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:28,060
No, we after Thanksgiving, but it's the weekend

490
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:38,100
And then let us know and then ask us what date we prefer and we can respond individually.

491
00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:39,840
So I

492
00:40:42,270 --> 00:40:44,710
can do that and the rail.

493
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:51,390
Thank you Lieutenant and for a good idea.

494
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,680
All right.

495
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Moving on the U.S. flag veterans memorial park discussion, we do have some members, one member,

496
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880
from the, I

497
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:13,340
always get a mixed up VFW, thank you.

498
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:22,240
And so, I don't know if you've seen the agenda, the management summary that I put out and

499
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:22,540
stuff.

500
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:36,300
I proposed basically that we put out the bigger flag for flag day, which is falls on June 14th,

501
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:45,440
And then Independence Day, and we would just keep the large flag up between Flag Day, June 14th, and Independence Day, and then take it down afterwards.

502
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,260
And then again, on Veterans Day.

503
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:55,540
So with that, I'll just kind of open it up to any discussion of what the Commission thinks.

504
00:41:55,540 --> 00:42:03,800
Let's talk to the Commander Smith after our meeting and he's perfectly fine with keeping

505
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,680
at that 20 by 30 flag.

506
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:11,920
He's trying to keep us from having an extra work as well and I appreciate that.

507
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:22,370
I think the 20 by 30 flag will be good, fly is better than the heavier flag, not respected

508
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:22,870
but.

509
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:23,970
But my

510
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:31,220
suggestion was only a starting point for the discussion.

511
00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:35,700
I think correct me if I'm wrong.

512
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,720
I don't agree with you, but you can correct me if you wanted.

513
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:51,000
What was suggested before for safety issues, are y'all want and climb to keep it at what

514
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,020
I was suggesting to begin, or do you all think it's feasible

515
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:56,600
to change it for the larger for these certain days,

516
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,580
because it does go as close to the ground for half-mask.

517
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:00,860
It does fly, I know.

518
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,620
For a fact, it's capable of picking a man up

519
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:04,520
when the wind comes strong.

520
00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:08,820
Justifying that because my son flew it.

521
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,820
When he had the help, he would find up in the air

522
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:14,780
because he loved it, you know.

523
00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:20,080
But I know Dennis had talked about that

524
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:28,940
That's my concern. It's more safety. Do you have anything to say, sir?

525
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:37,440
So, one question I have, the confirmed size of our flagpole.

526
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,680
So, if it's 120 feet tall, that is the minimum size to fly a 30-foot-up-and-foot flag.

527
00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:51,480
So, that's telling you that pole just meets minimum the height because you should always average

528
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,640
There's a quarter of the pole, the maximum size of the height of the flag.

529
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:00,180
But that doesn't take in the mechanics that are built and answered that.

530
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:09,660
It's the minimum for that size, but it may not be the minimum long for the best capability for the mechanics inside the flag pole to work it.

531
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:19,140
But if you want to look at it, the quarter of U.S. flag pole, the largest flag is the garrison flag, which is a 20 foot by 38 foot flag.

532
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:22,580
And that is Lord's flag as well on any military installation.

533
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:31,380
So like the 30-foot flag, that's usually, you know, a camping world, and Mr. Lyonis doing

534
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:37,040
his, is a, or do you want to say all the fines for that protest, but, and we're looking

535
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,220
at it.

536
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:43,500
So 20 by 38, the garrison flag is, typically the top of them, is the Lord's flag, and of course

537
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:44,020
you have a flag.

538
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,740
It's also Lord's flag as well on military installations.

539
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:58,780
But one below that is usually flown on non-holidays is the post flag which is 10 foot by 19 foot flag.

540
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:50,560
So the post flag is 17 by 11 and 3 eggs, 8-foot, 8-foot, 8-foot, 8-foot, 8-foot, 17-foot. So it's a little bit smaller. Our recommendation is just, if we're going to fly the garrison flag, leave the garrison flag out, because it is the smaller one we put up. It's not that drastically different from a visual standpoint, but it's there. But if we want to put it up on the holidays and change out to put a 30 by 50,

541
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:57,480
up on the poles and you know it should be select holidays we have organizations

542
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:06,900
ourselves put a white school that can come out and assist the city if it's

543
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:12,260
if it's needed to raise and lower the flag but then we look at which

544
00:46:12,260 --> 00:46:16,260
holidays are you gonna choose from so you know in US flag code in the military

545
00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:21,500
regulations there's a set number of holidays to fly the largest flag on but it

546
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:26,100
also said you can fly the smaller version in lieu of that one for safety

547
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:31,020
considerations. And since we're not nullitarian, we wouldn't have to abide by

548
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:36,400
that. Yes, but it is recommended. So for our organization, the BFW

549
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:42,120
and American Legion are our ceremonial regulation or bylaws and ceremonial

550
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:47,160
manual procedure, says to follow the military drill or US Army drill and ceremony

551
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:55,320
manuals and that covers us Army flag manuals and everything as well. If an

552
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:01,260
organization does not have a set standard it is recommended to use the Army

553
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:07,260
drill ceremony manuals, etc. So that's where we're making that recommendation to

554
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:12,500
kind of follow what the military manuals say because they're in line with US flag

555
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:22,820
but fly on those select holidays, we want to do that, we can put the larger one up, and assist, but then again, if they come into

556
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:32,500
which holiday is going to get an IC on the note, it's this flag day for the July better and today, but our

557
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,820
of our new Memorial Day is the most important thing.

558
00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:39,080
And that's tough because it's half masked.

559
00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:42,880
It's half staff from sunrise to noon

560
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,200
and you're putting your back full staff,

561
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,660
so there's some extra manual labor involved with that.

562
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,680
Well, from these days, school's out.

563
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,380
The system out here.

564
00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:55,140
So unless you've got kids going to summer school

565
00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:56,760
or having to call up and get people to make.

566
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,120
Well, Chris is taking only does it, right?

567
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:19,120
I don't know that we really will get over there messing with the flag potentially potentially I mean some some support if it's not windy just to make sure the flag doesn't touch but I think the 20 by 30 year round would be the best.

568
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,240
I agree.

569
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Yeah, you guys are the experts in the South.

570
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,960
I think we need to follow your recommendations.

571
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:34,360
And with that commission, what I'd like to do is to set it by resolution that that's what we're doing.

572
00:48:34,820 --> 00:48:35,080
Okay.

573
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:48,340
The most sure way to have consistency of what we're doing so that it's not power of personalities and stuff like that saying, hey, we want this big flag or something is that then we have consistent action.

574
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:49,340
and we know what we're doing.

575
00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:54,200
So we'll bring that back in resolution form to the flag size.

576
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,520
Yeah, and what about on the two, looking,

577
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,540
you know, we should all be good stewards of funds, right?

578
00:49:01,420 --> 00:49:04,920
If you're looking, you know, 500 to $15 an hour

579
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,860
of difference, and I'll read first of the flag,

580
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:10,200
I mean, that's 20, 20 by 38, and that's 30 by 50.

581
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:11,380
Linda Poe.

582
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,500
First and multiple a year through the city.

583
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,260
I think the polls differ too.

584
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,540
It's supposed to be about 250 feet in my wrong.

585
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:27,300
No, so I think some of the numbers were mis-spoken size when you forget so 120 feet is the minimum standard for a 30 foot by 50 foot.

586
00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:33,660
I don't know how the Athens flag hole is 150 feet.

587
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,360
I don't know if that's the rate of the meeting last week, but they're at 150 feet.

588
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,780
But there are mechanics inside the flag hole we're also designed specifically to fly that larger flag.

589
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:49,720
for the $120,000 is a minimum because it's at least that quarter height of the black hole.

590
00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:55,760
But our recommendation and the VFW, we're dealing with the gear and the size of the

591
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,460
vehicle by $38,000 falling year-round.

592
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,940
20 by $38,000.

593
00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:02,520
20 by $38,000.

594
00:50:02,540 --> 00:50:03,360
20 by $38,000.

595
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:03,720
20 by $38,000.

596
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,800
20 by $38,000.

597
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:05,880
Well, that's what you said.

598
00:50:05,980 --> 00:50:09,060
But when you order it, it's $20,000 by $38,000.

599
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,980
When you fall into the U.S. black hole, percentage of the measurement is high.

600
00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:21,320
Before we go down, I'll make sure that I got the right work with him, make sure that

601
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,900
I got the exact right dimensions.

602
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,260
So I heard in a site 20 by 30.

603
00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:25,640
Yeah.

604
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,900
What reference 20 by 30 with this 20 by 30 actually?

605
00:50:31,420 --> 00:50:33,840
And this gentleman, he did this in the military.

606
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:36,020
I did that.

607
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,760
I was saying there was a discrepancy from what I heard.

608
00:50:39,140 --> 00:50:39,320
Yeah.

609
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,880
I did a part two different.

610
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,500
I think that's where I got the two features because he was talking about the the bigger one

611
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,340
That our public out here was like a potter video something whatever whatever it is

612
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:55,500
And the reason I was so large actually our poll was not the size it needed to be in order to fly

613
00:50:56,300 --> 00:51:01,320
That's why I think public said they had some of the issues that they've had with it and in the wind currents

614
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:07,940
It's a fair to say that's kind of a slang to refer to it as the 20 about 30 and everybody knows it's a 20 about 38. Okay

615
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:39,140
The last item on the agenda for discussion was the consideration of changing department

616
00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:41,260
Harman head or key manager vacation that rules.

617
00:51:42,860 --> 00:51:43,420
Kristen?

618
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,340
Right.

619
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,260
So this is a follow-up to the discussion commissioner Johnson started last week.

620
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,680
John Michelle and I worked on the proposed accrual schedule that you can see listed there.

621
00:51:57,060 --> 00:52:04,400
We feel that this is a good way to kind of do it where trying to accomplish and that's recruit experienced leaders for those key positions.

622
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,540
We have not extended the vacation accrual cap at all.

623
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,220
It still caps at the same number, follows the same steps.

624
00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:17,560
It just starts out a little bit higher with smaller increases on the same gears of service, the other.

625
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:29,880
And the reason I honestly feel like we should do this again for recruitment, retention, also key managers are salary employees.

626
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:35,020
employees and salary employees just don't clock out at 40 hours.

627
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,720
If they take 60 hours for a month, they've got to put in 60 hours to comment

628
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:40,380
their bills.

629
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Where the hourly employees, they don't have to do that to say for

630
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,880
the application.

631
00:52:49,970 --> 00:52:55,530
So, I know our key managers are putting in the time and doing a lot of

632
00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:59,710
extra work when it comes to the city.

633
00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:22,730
One of the considerations that we've already been discussing, even before this came up, is the possibility of expanding comp time, compensatory time, is that right now, if you have over five years with city, we don't allow it and stuff, we just pay out over time.

634
00:53:22,730 --> 00:53:30,670
But I think that is something that, you know, I'm not exactly sure what the thinking was

635
00:53:30,670 --> 00:53:33,510
when that was approved and stuff.

636
00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:39,810
But you know, maybe it was to give newer employees the opportunity to get a few more vacation

637
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:45,050
hours and stuff than just the eight hours that starts out.

638
00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:50,690
But one thing I would say is that it kind of works if we've been already having that discussion

639
00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:54,290
and to open that up for all of the salaries, excuse me,

640
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:57,050
all of the hourly employees to open that up

641
00:53:57,050 --> 00:54:02,010
because I know that some would like to potentially have

642
00:54:02,010 --> 00:54:06,250
that instead, I would imagine, some would like to use that.

643
00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:09,410
And it works out for us as far as dollar-wise.

644
00:54:09,790 --> 00:54:12,270
It makes really not much of a difference

645
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:16,970
and that actually works in our favor if we let them have

646
00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:18,230
that as vacation hours.

647
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:22,970
It's still dependent on, I mean, because we're really talking about two departments.

648
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:27,890
We're talking about the police and the public works departments primarily.

649
00:54:28,930 --> 00:54:34,510
It works in their favor as far as their budget to manage their budget a little bit, and

650
00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:42,530
then the department has always still have control over that to meet operational needs and

651
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:48,610
staff is that they're not more obligated and it is capped at, I believe, 40 hours and

652
00:54:48,610 --> 00:54:54,170
stuff. So I know the salary studies can play a part of the hourly people for us looking

653
00:54:54,170 --> 00:55:01,210
at their salaries. Correct. Say that again. When the salary study is finished, it looks

654
00:55:01,210 --> 00:55:06,530
at the hourly employees as well. Yeah. What needs to be adjusted is like this. Yes. All

655
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:14,270
I have concerns with doing an increase on vacation hours just for management.

656
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:21,430
I mean, I've been an hourly employee most of my life, and I just know how that would feel to me when they're already getting.

657
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:28,330
Management already gets the extra 1.5% for their retention bonus, and now they're also going to recruit a higher rate.

658
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,500
Well, the cap is the same for like once you get to 20 years, for example.

659
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,580
but I think kind of the idea was two things.

660
00:55:39,820 --> 00:55:46,340
First, we do not have any trouble recruiting police officers, public works labors.

661
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:52,360
We have an abundance of applications, and I can't exactly say the same for the key management positions.

662
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,360
The other consideration would just be the level of experience they're bringing in potentially,

663
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,800
whereas the police officers is potentially maybe more entry level.

664
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,360
If you have somebody who's walking into a leadership position with ten years of experience,

665
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,960
that could be something we might want to consider.

666
00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:14,790
Because we have two classifications down.

667
00:56:15,010 --> 00:56:18,610
We've got the key managers and the hourly employees, if you will.

668
00:56:19,210 --> 00:56:22,350
And we depend upon our employees.

669
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:29,870
And it is easier to hire those, like you said, for police officers or public works.

670
00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:44,510
I know that from a corporate world, three weeks is pretty standard to get when you are in salary people in position.

671
00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:49,110
So I think it is an opportunity to continue to do.

672
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:58,310
I think when you just stay competitive, and who are we taking into consideration what other local municipalities?

673
00:56:59,410 --> 00:57:06,530
As far as this, well, I guess I'll say separately what we talked about before with the Compensation Study.

674
00:57:06,790 --> 00:57:11,190
I am actively working to compare all of the local cities and all of that.

675
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:17,510
But I would say I think we need to compare ourselves not only to the surrounding municipalities, but

676
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:23,310
also like Commissioner Johnson said, like the private sector and just knowing that I think key managers,

677
00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:27,870
There's especially, maybe a police officer can only go to a city and be a police officer,

678
00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:34,890
but when you're looking at key manager positions, they could go to TVA, to Blue Cross, whatever.

679
00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:39,230
They have a little bit, I would say, more options as far as where they go as well.

680
00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:40,950
Yeah, they would, city of Chattanooga.

681
00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:47,290
So city of Chattanooga, I do actually, they run on a PTO schedule, but

682
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:50,810
I believe they start, and Thomas, maybe you can help me with this.

683
00:57:50,810 --> 00:57:54,830
But I think that they start close, is it 28 days of PTO?

684
00:57:56,030 --> 00:58:02,090
33 days of PTO, so that I would say is, includes the effect.

685
00:58:02,530 --> 00:58:02,710
Okay.

686
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:10,630
Just a counter-argument, aren't we still being competitive if we increase it for all of our employees and not just a management class?

687
00:58:10,990 --> 00:58:17,110
I don't think somebody's not going to take a job with us in a management position just because we increase it across the board.

688
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:30,520
I would agree with that maybe two considerations for that would be one budgetary considerations when you're talking about filling shifts like with the police department, you're having to find somebody to cover those shifts.

689
00:58:30,980 --> 00:58:34,000
The second thing would just be the expanded comp time.

690
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:38,700
I think that is something we could definitely bring back for approval if we wanted to also take this for approval.

691
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:45,880
We could bring them both at the same time and that would allow all hourly employees to have the benefit of basically accruing more vacation.

692
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,460
So it is sort of is the same.

693
00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:54,580
How likely do the other departments other than police and public works have opportunities to earn comp time?

694
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:01,120
It probably varies a little bit based on position, but I think that there's, I would say some.

695
00:59:01,460 --> 00:59:01,980
Quite a few.

696
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:02,480
Yes.

697
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:09,100
I'm just thinking of, you know, for Christy and for the court ladies and.

698
00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:13,640
I mean, there's others too, but I just think I'm demand.

699
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,920
I think I'd be more comfortable if we're doing it at the same time if we're also going to allow the comp time I feel like

700
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,340
I don't want to leave our hourly employees thinking that they are

701
00:59:24,340 --> 00:59:25,180
substandard

702
00:59:25,180 --> 00:59:31,360
Well, I think that's what we communicate through HR to them is we are looking at this and

703
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,140
the comp time

704
00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:40,780
Yeah, I think that's a great thing and if you all would be on board with like us bringing back at the next commission meeting

705
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:45,940
being both of those things, like you said, the comp time expanded for hourly employees

706
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:51,180
past five years, and then this vacation and cruel schedule, I think that would be good.

707
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,860
Yeah, I think it sounds good.

708
00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:53,920
Okay, thank you.

709
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:58,640
And a lot of the corporate, because we put so much time and effort into training, getting

710
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,980
I think all of that people...

711
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:08,860
It's working for them. It's more of holding on to those people. And that's why we're trying to bring this to us.

712
01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:20,290
We're clear on that. And the

713
01:00:23,170 --> 01:00:30,510
next step would be commission reports, anything from the commissioners. I've got a couple. I'm ready. All right.

714
01:00:30,510 --> 01:00:38,510
So, three weeks now, trashed beside the dollar general or dollar tree store, laying outside

715
01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:46,830
next to absent high. We all drive by daily. Why is it still there? Have we done anything

716
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:54,670
about getting it out? Talk to them about picking it up, talking about getting some type of

717
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,420
We'll run, not run the ticket, but you know.

718
01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:02,900
This was the issue last year, year before as well,

719
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,660
because I remember y'all have got there and speak to them.

720
01:01:06,460 --> 01:01:09,140
So sorry I've been out a couple weeks with knee surgery,

721
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,100
but I'd be happy to.

722
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,300
No, but you got people that drive by every day.

723
01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:13,060
I don't know.

724
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,480
That's what brought me home.

725
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:15,880
I'm not sure.

726
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,220
The whole tree right here, okay.

727
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,000
Yeah, I mean, they may have our eighth grade of code case.

728
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,060
Yeah, and it just looks bad for the city.

729
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,260
Yeah, they may have our eighth grade of code case.

730
01:01:24,260 --> 01:01:28,920
I just have to check with them to see where that's all they need to do is pick it up

731
01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:34,560
Dollar store and I noticed they're dumpsters behind the fence

732
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:49,740
I know we ran it to a similar situation behind the supercuts far house subs and there was

733
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:56,100
It was really bad flies and everything, and yeah, it was kind of concluded.

734
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,980
Come to find out, it was supposedly Firehouse's responsibility to have the dumpster emptied

735
01:02:03,980 --> 01:02:11,800
and lung storage short, I was able to actually locate the number online for the owner, apparently

736
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:17,670
had changed hands of who owned it, and I was able to contact them and they were able to

737
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:22,610
contact property management so it was able to get resolved quickly but it's not always that

738
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:28,130
simplistic oftentimes if there is a change in management or ownership and it very well

739
01:02:28,130 --> 01:02:34,030
may have I know I can't really talk about the whole lot but I did get an email today

740
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:40,410
from Garrett and there's discussion about potential change in use of that building and so

741
01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:44,550
it could be that that's part of what's going on with that whole thing.

742
01:02:44,550 --> 01:02:48,530
You know, we've had some challenges with that bit, not that I'm opposed to it, I can

743
01:02:48,530 --> 01:02:54,350
try to do it if I walk those into it, but there's trash just laying around on the asphalt.

744
01:02:57,310 --> 01:03:04,650
The other one I have, I mentioned to Chris, I'm, for lack of better words, there is a gumball

745
01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:11,450
top machine at the duck pond where people put a quarter in, and it gives them food in their

746
01:03:11,450 --> 01:03:16,830
hands so they can feed the ducks. Well, that hasn't worked. I know in three months now,

747
01:03:16,830 --> 01:03:22,130
according to a lady contacted me about it. She said, you put a quarter in it. We'll

748
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:27,870
about turn. I said, well, it's probably full of coins, but I'm surprised we have it out

749
01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:34,150
there because we can't add a way to keep it up. I'm not sure who put it there. I checked

750
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:40,830
with Scotty Wheeler, who's been here 13 plus years. He's never been involved with

751
01:03:40,830 --> 01:03:46,850
removing quarters or replenishing supplies so I'm not quite sure how that

752
01:03:46,850 --> 01:03:47,310
operates.

753
01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:59,750
So apparently someone's been running a business at the pawn or not

754
01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:04,430
maybe the quarter is full. But did you give her a quarter back? No it wasn't.

755
01:04:14,570 --> 01:04:32,430
The daycare is, right past the daycare, that ditch T-Dot never came clear that ditch out.

756
01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:33,010
number one.

757
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,780
They were supposed to win. Wayne was easier. Wastewater people's most

758
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:43,660
couple look at everything. I don't ever know if we ever got truly

759
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:50,780
resurrection on all that stuff. And did you all drag a tire under the

760
01:04:50,780 --> 01:04:53,940
street there? Because Wayne said you were going to do that.

761
01:04:55,260 --> 01:04:59,880
Okay, so go pass that a little bit. The new building that's been sitting

762
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:08,260
there empty, that's for leaves, whatever. When you look down at the last rock, I'll call

763
01:05:08,260 --> 01:05:13,560
a pit for lack of that award, it's with the grapes on it. The water is standing in there.

764
01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:18,500
It's like it's not slope ride or something. I get you if you drove by it today, it's going

765
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:23,000
still to have water. So I don't know why we don't look at that, or.

766
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,460
Yeah, I mean that would be through Hamilton County, typically, because they do the water

767
01:05:27,460 --> 01:05:34,640
quality aspects of the development yet TDOT I know we've tried to have them come

768
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,760
and clean the ditches on noodle our wringled try to reshape them I don't know

769
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,700
that they're full-step I think they're just trying to find the time and the

770
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:50,640
manpower to do that yeah because the first little where dogwood is the new

771
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:57,760
area there. That first water that runs out, it just doesn't have any place to go.

772
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,640
In the second one, it's a little deeper for the ditch, but again, then it backs up

773
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,240
because it can't get underneath the pipe under the street.

774
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,060
We need some call and a reach out to T. and Hamilton County.

775
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:17,040
Yep.

776
01:06:18,260 --> 01:06:28,980
And the last thing I have is thank you for taking care of or investigating for the commission.

777
01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:34,920
There's a tractor trailer that people were ordering food and it came in packed full of

778
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,300
food.

779
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,260
And people would come in my hours certain time and pick the food out.

780
01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:50,180
And the tie-to-go people said, hey, that tractor trailer moved, and there's rear-pandom axles

781
01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:56,480
left a huge indention, and I guess it made it as too hot, or I don't know what it was

782
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,620
and had even a truck, but Chris and his team has put up no tractor trailers.

783
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,140
So was it Scotty or somebody that tried to...

784
01:07:06,140 --> 01:07:10,820
Yeah, we did, I was able to communicate with the company that was doing that.

785
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:18,380
Advise some of the issue, they apologized, did indicate that they can't use that facility anymore.

786
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:26,520
They need to find another location, and they are waiting for information for me as far as the estimate of repair.

787
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,740
Okay, yes, thank you, Arvind, it's mostly thank you for that.

788
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,200
Thank you.

789
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,520
It's all I have.

790
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,500
So I

791
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:42,680
want to compliment Christina and her crew this weekend for the timber event.

792
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,700
It was wildly received well by the public.

793
01:07:45,700 --> 01:07:46,360
It was fun.

794
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,840
I think it'll probably be larger next year, very fun event.

795
01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:53,580
And then I was going to ask, I need the TDOT contact.

796
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,260
We'll have a theme of TDOT for who we've been talking to about shop on Maine, about that

797
01:07:58,260 --> 01:07:58,960
something great.

798
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,540
I'm going to reach out to them since they said they don't want to fix it and see if I can

799
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:05,140
be persuasive.

800
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,720
That's all I have.

801
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:12,520
I think when Eric was here, because Jerry Daniels

802
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,660
who owned that shop, it was flooding and stuff,

803
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,640
and T.Dot held the city on that great end of the house.

804
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,580
They told us the exact opposite.

805
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:25,860
T.Dot did?

806
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:26,300
Yeah.

807
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,940
Did it was theirs, and then we couldn't touch them.

808
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,580
Yeah, well, you've been said, hey, well, at our expense,

809
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,660
to fix the problem, we'll do it.

810
01:08:34,660 --> 01:08:37,080
And they know we don't want you to mess with it.

811
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,220
So because I know Eric went out there and did stuff.

812
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,160
It's a pretty deep hole for them.

813
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:43,940
It's not been out there.

814
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,080
You could easily burp an ankle.

815
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:47,700
They also need to work on,

816
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,520
we've done it as a courtesy to ask

817
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,360
but they need to come out and fix my neighborhood

818
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,420
before you get in by neighborhood that street

819
01:08:59,420 --> 01:09:02,100
on the back side of the house apartment that

820
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:07,280
is bad. It's always got heart holes and everything else and we went out and fixed it

821
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,960
one more time. Had neighbors in my neighborhood go, I just don't even call just properly

822
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,660
go out and don't seem it, so they're trying to protect the heart. I was because, uh,

823
01:09:15,740 --> 01:09:20,280
Health County will come out. You know, it will come out. It's not. It's kind of like we're

824
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:25,240
the red-handed step child. You know, we're on the back side and they haven't been coming out

825
01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:31,860
and to take care of that property. So I get calls haven't lately though. I've gotten

826
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:34,440
that calls about what can be done to fix the road.

827
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,620
Not telling me to call County County,

828
01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:38,900
call T-DOT, come fix the road.

829
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:41,000
That I have been out there since 1999

830
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,180
and that one's never been paid for section.

831
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Also, there's some limbs that have fallen over.

832
01:09:53,180 --> 01:09:55,900
I just noticed that yesterday when I came

833
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,920
limbs were the cables come down because of the wind.

834
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:01,840
If you go around this, you'll just drive by

835
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,940
on the right side.

836
01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:08,200
big branches have come down over the cable and you're saying it and they're still

837
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,760
hanging there today. And where is that location? High Street. Yeah, you turn it back to

838
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,020
the Udoa Baptist Church and when you go around the corner it turns into

839
01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:21,540
high street. But right, it's about like warehouses on the right, there's the trees

840
01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:27,000
there and there's huge branches and not gonna be that's the thing and it's kind

841
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,960
of like getting lower to the ground. This mortar went out, it went out, it was

842
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:37,340
there. I haven't checked because I've been on this afternoon. But somebody's

843
01:10:37,340 --> 01:10:41,440
calling that because yesterday it was. I don't think it

844
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,300
was the last people that called. It's cheaper than the fix it when the line

845
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:50,360
comes down that don't sit in the garage. Yeah, that's. That's what the issue would

846
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,740
either be the county or EPB. Yeah. The EPB came out one time in my neighborhood

847
01:10:55,740 --> 01:11:01,340
and fix it with it. On the back side, on the railroad tracks, it was coming down, and they

848
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:06,320
came fix it because the pole was going to go over the tracks, and that way they'd definitely

849
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,080
come. But they don't get enough of it.

850
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:20,180
All right, morning, nothing further. I would say that I don't have a lot. Probably one

851
01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:29,540
of the biggest things. I got a due date for the application, for the tourism grant.

852
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:36,880
And for those of you that I haven't shared this with is that we can get up to $100,000.

853
01:11:37,540 --> 01:11:39,840
We have to have a 50-50 match.

854
01:11:40,540 --> 01:11:45,280
So whatever we're putting in, or whatever we're requesting, we have to have 50-50 match.

855
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:50,620
Well we already have $100,000 asked in our put into our budget.

856
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:58,640
So I feel, we should ask for another 100,000 that will allow us to do all of the way finding

857
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:07,360
signs but also could allow us to move forward with the larger signs as far as a larger

858
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:14,400
monument sign up on top of absent pipe coming in, you'd really make a statement as people

859
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:20,100
coming into our community and staff. So working on that, Michelle has been helping

860
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:27,780
with that and that's going well. So like I said, keep my fingers crossed and that's got

861
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:30,200
to be in by the end of the week, so I'll have that completed.

862
01:12:31,460 --> 01:12:39,040
Other than that, not a lot to share, I've given you the applications, the letters of

863
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,220
interest for the airport board.

864
01:12:43,220 --> 01:12:52,240
My hope on that is, or request, is that you guys take a look over those and when you will

865
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,520
send that, we'll just do that same process that we did for the industrial development board

866
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:07,540
just send me your top five. I'll take those votes. And at the next meeting of the City Council,

867
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:13,560
which will be on the 8th of September, we'll put that on the agenda for you guys to get that

868
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:22,600
view. So if I can get those back later, no later than the second, which is the Wednesday before the

869
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,300
a memorial thing that would be greatly appreciated.

870
01:13:27,580 --> 01:13:28,920
So sooner the better I can get that

871
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,260
and get that out of the way and ready to go.

872
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:38,230
I was quite pleased with some fairly sharp individuals

873
01:13:38,230 --> 01:13:39,750
put in and so that's exciting.

874
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:40,090
Very good.

875
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:44,750
And that's all I have with that.

876
01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:47,390
There's no other items, we'll adjourn.

877
01:13:47,890 --> 01:13:48,110
All right.

878
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:48,590
Thank you.