1 00:08:28,955 --> 00:08:31,595 Hello, council. I'll call to call to order our meeting 2 00:08:31,595 --> 00:08:34,675 of Monday, December the 15th and. We're going to start 3 00:08:34,675 --> 00:08:36,955 by standing for the playing of our national anthem. 4 00:09:42,316 --> 00:09:45,236 Councilor Potts going to read the land acknowledgment this afternoon. 5 00:09:51,582 --> 00:09:54,262 For more than 15,000 years, the first nations walked upon 6 00:09:54,262 --> 00:09:56,782 and cared for the lands we now call home. And 7 00:09:56,782 --> 00:10:01,582 if schnawk, hardenishanivaway and many others who are families, friends 8 00:10:01,582 --> 00:10:04,582 and communities the way we are today. The town of 9 00:10:04,582 --> 00:10:08,742 Columbia Technologies, the Lake Simcoe. Nadosaga Treaty of 1818 and 10 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:12,129 the relationship it establishes for the original inhabit. Inhabitants of 11 00:10:12,129 --> 00:10:14,969 Turtle island, we acknowledge the reality of our shared history. 12 00:10:16,359 --> 00:10:19,439 And the current contributions of indigenous people within our community, 13 00:10:19,439 --> 00:10:22,479 we seek to continue empowering expressions of pride amongst all 14 00:10:22,479 --> 00:10:25,479 of the diverse stakeholders in this area. We seek to 15 00:10:25,479 --> 00:10:28,559 do better and to continue to recognize, learn and grow 16 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:36,400 in friendship and community, nation to nation. Thank you. Before 17 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,297 we get into the formal part of the agenda. I 18 00:10:40,297 --> 00:10:43,811 just wanted to speak for a few moments. And that 19 00:10:43,811 --> 00:10:46,948 our COO will add a few comments. More than I 20 00:10:46,948 --> 00:10:50,948 will about our water and our water issues over the 21 00:10:50,948 --> 00:10:55,401 weekend. As I'm sure you know now. I'm pleased to 22 00:10:55,401 --> 00:10:59,281 let everyone here and all of our residents and businesses 23 00:10:59,281 --> 00:11:03,481 know that the boil water advisory for all the effective 24 00:11:03,481 --> 00:11:07,749 areas in Collingwood has now been lifted. The Simple Muskoka 25 00:11:07,749 --> 00:11:11,709 District Health Unit has completed all required testing and is 26 00:11:11,709 --> 00:11:16,149 confirmed that our water is safe for normal use. Our 27 00:11:16,149 --> 00:11:20,116 water treatment plant is fully operational. I know this was 28 00:11:20,116 --> 00:11:23,916 so inconvenient and caused real concern, and I want to 29 00:11:23,916 --> 00:11:29,371 thank residents and businesses for their patients and cooperation. Protecting 30 00:11:29,371 --> 00:11:34,804 public health guided every decision throughout this response. I want 31 00:11:34,804 --> 00:11:39,124 to sincerely thank town staff, and I'll start by narrowing 32 00:11:39,124 --> 00:11:43,244 in on our department. Heads who participated in our emergency 33 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:47,720 operations center. They had not only meetings throughout the weekend, 34 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,360 but had an open chat line where they all could 35 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,225 participate, ask questions. Share thoughts and what was happening on 36 00:11:55,225 --> 00:11:58,975 the ground 24/7. I was fortunate to be part of 37 00:11:58,975 --> 00:12:00,895 that, and I can tell you it was very active. 38 00:12:02,443 --> 00:12:05,483 And there was many staff members behind those department heads 39 00:12:05,483 --> 00:12:08,043 who were also working all weekend. So I want to 40 00:12:08,043 --> 00:12:11,414 start by thanking all of them. I want to thank 41 00:12:11,414 --> 00:12:14,054 Arnold Construction, who worked through the night, Friday night to 42 00:12:14,054 --> 00:12:16,494 locate that water main. Break. It was a tricky one. 43 00:12:16,494 --> 00:12:19,694 And get it repaired. And our partners at the Simcoe 44 00:12:19,694 --> 00:12:23,014 Muskoka. District health unit for their careful and timely work. 45 00:12:24,457 --> 00:12:27,217 And also, let's not forget the many community partners and 46 00:12:27,217 --> 00:12:30,497 volunteers who stepped up to support our residents and businesses. 47 00:12:32,374 --> 00:12:34,654 Collingwood is a community that looks out for one another, 48 00:12:34,654 --> 00:12:38,054 and I'm truly grateful for that. And on behalf of 49 00:12:38,054 --> 00:12:42,454 council and town staff, thank you, and I'll turn this 50 00:12:42,454 --> 00:12:47,327 over to Ocio Skinner. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. It was 51 00:12:47,327 --> 00:12:50,007 a team effort with the community and staff over the 52 00:12:50,007 --> 00:12:54,881 weekend. Some of us feel like it's Monday again. With 53 00:12:54,881 --> 00:12:59,790 the first Monday we worked Friday night. So the event 54 00:12:59,790 --> 00:13:02,470 did first start on Friday afternoon. We noticed that we 55 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:05,150 had a water main break. There was water evident that 56 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:09,270 the intersection of Pretty River Parkway Highway 26 in Hume 57 00:13:09,270 --> 00:13:14,766 street, initially the location wasn't clear, but. There's two large 58 00:13:14,766 --> 00:13:17,926 mains underground that area, and water was surfacing in large 59 00:13:17,926 --> 00:13:20,926 amounts. At three locations around the intersection, so we knew 60 00:13:20,926 --> 00:13:26,848 there was a significant problem. The positive pressure that the 61 00:13:26,848 --> 00:13:30,048 team kept in the pipes kept groundwater contamination from coming 62 00:13:30,048 --> 00:13:34,526 in. So. We were insured. That continued while we were 63 00:13:34,526 --> 00:13:38,126 locating the break. The break was so large, though. That 64 00:13:38,126 --> 00:13:40,606 we had an immediate drop in the system pressure and 65 00:13:40,606 --> 00:13:46,167 the water level in the water tower. Lowered significantly. And 66 00:13:46,167 --> 00:13:49,167 in response, the south area of town was affected as 67 00:13:49,167 --> 00:13:52,287 a Dave B reservoir tried to feed water into the 68 00:13:52,287 --> 00:13:57,510 downtown area. Residents and businesses in Summit View and mountain 69 00:13:57,510 --> 00:14:01,670 craft subdivisions experienced low water pressure and no water and 70 00:14:01,670 --> 00:14:04,590 similar to residents and businesses in the east end of 71 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:09,593 Collingwood. Given that we used a lot of water. In 72 00:14:09,593 --> 00:14:13,513 addressing this, we deeply appreciate all the businesses and homeowners 73 00:14:13,513 --> 00:14:16,633 who minimize their use of water over Friday and Saturday, 74 00:14:16,633 --> 00:14:21,277 allowing our storage facilities to be refilled. The break in 75 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:23,957 the areas with low pressure were reported to the health 76 00:14:23,957 --> 00:14:27,933 unit. The provincial spills action center. And others, and using 77 00:14:27,933 --> 00:14:30,813 appropriate caution around human health. As the mayor mentioned, the 78 00:14:30,813 --> 00:14:34,173 health unit issued the boil water advisory on Friday night. 79 00:14:36,444 --> 00:14:39,804 At that time, town staff thought it could take up 80 00:14:39,804 --> 00:14:44,069 to five days to rectify. So now that we're sitting 81 00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:46,604 here on Monday morning, With just two and a bit 82 00:14:46,604 --> 00:14:50,564 days. Monday afternoon, two and a bit days later, I 83 00:14:50,564 --> 00:14:53,711 think. That the folks who worked on this did it 84 00:14:53,711 --> 00:14:57,922 with lightning speed. We had to find the brake, fix 85 00:14:57,922 --> 00:15:01,482 it, flush the system, take tests across town. Take those 86 00:15:01,482 --> 00:15:05,357 water. Samples down to Mississauga. And bring them to the 87 00:15:05,357 --> 00:15:07,997 lab. And the testing takes about two days as the 88 00:15:07,997 --> 00:15:14,033 cultures need to grow before. The test. Lab attendants can 89 00:15:14,033 --> 00:15:20,940 provide their formal results. So with help from ice water 90 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:23,700 springs, we were also able to hand out water starting 91 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:28,483 Saturday morning. From several locations. And by Saturday, before dinner, 92 00:15:28,483 --> 00:15:30,763 there was an evidence based decision made by the health 93 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:34,643 unit, supported by material from our staff announcing that we 94 00:15:34,643 --> 00:15:37,803 could substantially reduce the geographic area of the boil water 95 00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:40,563 advisory. And I give a lot of folks credit for 96 00:15:40,563 --> 00:15:43,923 that. It was appropriate to put it on the town. 97 00:15:45,235 --> 00:15:47,835 As a health unit did, and it was also appropriate, 98 00:15:47,835 --> 00:15:50,675 given the evidence, to reduce it as soon as practical. 99 00:15:53,344 --> 00:15:59,211 We often talk about asset management. And as town staff, 100 00:15:59,211 --> 00:16:03,131 we probably not as effectively as we should describe how 101 00:16:03,131 --> 00:16:08,468 the work helps us. Avoid immediate crises. With our infrastructure, 102 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:11,148 we do monitor age and condition, as well as the 103 00:16:11,148 --> 00:16:14,708 risk demonstrated by brakes and other patterns. When our teams 104 00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:17,868 go out from water, wastewater and public works, for example. 105 00:16:19,325 --> 00:16:23,005 And we're making excellent strides in our asset management work 106 00:16:23,005 --> 00:16:27,165 as a municipality, council and staff. Have been supporting this 107 00:16:27,165 --> 00:16:31,931 over a number of years. You'll see some construction on 108 00:16:31,931 --> 00:16:35,651 Highway 26 on the blue mountain side of Collingwood where 109 00:16:35,651 --> 00:16:38,451 we are relining one water line so we can address 110 00:16:38,451 --> 00:16:41,171 some water breaks that were happening there in a smaller 111 00:16:41,171 --> 00:16:45,291 line. We have included in our 2026 budget funds for 112 00:16:45,291 --> 00:16:49,600 a dedicated assessment of. A large diameter transmission main that 113 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,800 feeds the Davy reservoir. And new to comsus and we'll 114 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,320 continue with these types of assessments as well as major 115 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,587 upgrades. That are shown in our ten year capital plan. 116 00:17:01,260 --> 00:17:02,820 So some of the work that the town does is 117 00:17:02,820 --> 00:17:05,740 really visible, and you see it and you probably have 118 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:07,820 heard it at this table over the last few meetings 119 00:17:07,820 --> 00:17:11,900 as council has talked about the items that we're addressing 120 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,060 this year. We do have in any given year, about 121 00:17:15,060 --> 00:17:18,660 $100 million of capital work. Some of it is less 122 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:22,580 visible, but it's essential to keep the town running. So 123 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:25,340 we have our experts and our supporting consultants working on 124 00:17:25,340 --> 00:17:28,420 that and that making sure that infrastructure runs. It was 125 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:31,940 demonstrated this weekend. How important that is to our residents, 126 00:17:31,940 --> 00:17:35,806 businesses and visitors. I wanted to thank you, our community 127 00:17:35,806 --> 00:17:38,126 as well, our staff and the many others who helped 128 00:17:38,126 --> 00:17:42,846 us. Get through this weekend of challenges. Thank you for 129 00:17:42,846 --> 00:17:45,966 allowing me to give that more technical part of the 130 00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:50,384 update there. Okay. Thank you. Okay, so we're going to 131 00:17:50,384 --> 00:17:55,343 move on to the adoption of the agenda. Item three. 132 00:17:56,349 --> 00:17:58,229 That the content of the council committee of the whole 133 00:17:58,229 --> 00:18:02,629 agenda for December 15, 2025 be adopted. As amended. Two 134 00:18:02,629 --> 00:18:07,709 amendments proposed addition of the memorandum for item 11.1, Simcoe 135 00:18:07,709 --> 00:18:12,189 county recycling changes and addition of staff report for item 136 00:18:12,189 --> 00:18:15,389 14. Budget discussions continued. Could I have a mover? In 137 00:18:15,389 --> 00:18:18,963 a second, or, please. Councilor Bain seconded by councilor bots. 138 00:18:18,963 --> 00:18:24,311 Comments. All those in favor. And that's. Are you unanimous? 139 00:18:26,492 --> 00:18:32,299 Okay, sorry. Okay. Dr. Nanos. Are there any declarations of 140 00:18:32,299 --> 00:18:37,384 pecuniar interest today, Deputy Mayor? Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. I 141 00:18:37,384 --> 00:18:42,264 have two declarations to provide to council agenda items 7.2 142 00:18:42,264 --> 00:18:49,668 which is 401 Ragland street zoning bylaw amendment. Have a 143 00:18:49,668 --> 00:18:52,708 non pecuniary code of conduct disqualifying interest as the east. 144 00:18:52,708 --> 00:18:55,988 Side of the proposed severed lot about my father in 145 00:18:55,988 --> 00:19:00,268 law's property. At 80, Sanford Fleming Drive. So even though 146 00:19:00,268 --> 00:19:02,548 no decisions are being made today, I will follow the 147 00:19:02,548 --> 00:19:07,188 integrity commissioner's. Recommended protocol remaining at table for presentation but 148 00:19:07,188 --> 00:19:11,024 not participate. If there's any ensuing discuss. Discussion also for 149 00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:16,961 item ten, fees and charges. From a previous declaration. That's 150 00:19:16,961 --> 00:19:20,001 the bylaw I'm going to ask for severing of the 151 00:19:20,001 --> 00:19:25,013 centennial pool and. I'll have a non pecuniary code of 152 00:19:25,013 --> 00:19:28,813 conduct disqualifying interest. As well there for my daughter is 153 00:19:28,813 --> 00:19:34,625 employed at the facility. Are there any others? Okay. If 154 00:19:34,625 --> 00:19:37,145 you find yourself in that position during the meeting, please 155 00:19:37,145 --> 00:19:40,518 let me know. Community announcements and we'll start with the 156 00:19:40,518 --> 00:19:43,838 deputy mayor. Thank you. And on the heels of your 157 00:19:43,838 --> 00:19:49,556 very significant community announcement. That you and CIo skin are 158 00:19:49,556 --> 00:19:55,048 provided. Excellent summary. And I want to echo the thoughts 159 00:19:55,048 --> 00:19:58,848 as you conveyed. I wanted to recognize the environment network, 160 00:19:58,848 --> 00:20:02,528 who this month are celebrating 30 years of operation. I 161 00:20:02,528 --> 00:20:06,528 recall back in 1993 when the organization was established in 162 00:20:06,528 --> 00:20:09,568 no small part as an integral partner of the Collingwood 163 00:20:09,568 --> 00:20:12,808 harbor and remedial action plan. That successfully led to the 164 00:20:12,808 --> 00:20:17,524 hot. Hotspot, the listing of Collingwood harbor in 1994. Another 165 00:20:17,524 --> 00:20:21,284 initial initiative the environment network worked with us on was 166 00:20:21,284 --> 00:20:24,284 the Envira park that has now been renewed as sunset 167 00:20:24,284 --> 00:20:28,311 point. Play space. Over the years, the environment network has 168 00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:32,833 evolved its initiatives, but. Always focused on making our community 169 00:20:32,833 --> 00:20:36,807 more aware in support of the environment. The plans are 170 00:20:36,807 --> 00:20:39,807 to have a formal recognition in the spring and council 171 00:20:39,807 --> 00:20:43,208 will have a chance to join with them, then. For 172 00:20:43,208 --> 00:20:46,168 now, I want to say on behalf of Comingwood, we 173 00:20:46,168 --> 00:20:49,408 are very appreciative. Of their efforts, both past, current and 174 00:20:49,408 --> 00:20:53,747 future. You help make our community more sustainable in many 175 00:20:53,747 --> 00:20:58,981 different ways. Also want to express appreciation again to the 176 00:20:58,981 --> 00:21:01,661 efforts of all the volunteers who are assisting Chris and 177 00:21:01,661 --> 00:21:04,901 Andrea Dop as part of the Christmas Day feast team. 178 00:21:06,931 --> 00:21:09,331 It's the return of the free community Meal project that 179 00:21:09,331 --> 00:21:12,091 is open and welcome to anyone who needs a place 180 00:21:12,091 --> 00:21:14,331 to go, whether they are going to spend the day 181 00:21:14,331 --> 00:21:19,895 alone. Experience food insecurity or simply looking to connect with 182 00:21:19,895 --> 00:21:24,276 others. It's open to all denominations in ages. It will 183 00:21:24,276 --> 00:21:27,476 take place from 1230 to 02:00. P.m. at the legion 184 00:21:27,476 --> 00:21:30,756 390 on Terrorist street. We are so grateful for the 185 00:21:30,756 --> 00:21:33,796 team, bringing people together in the spirit of care and 186 00:21:33,796 --> 00:21:38,063 community. Would also add that an additional thanks to Chris 187 00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:42,329 and Andrea for their efforts. With the 25th annual turkey 188 00:21:42,329 --> 00:21:47,487 dinner giveaway over. The time, it has grown from 25 189 00:21:47,487 --> 00:21:53,290 to a tremendously generous but unfortunately needed 250. Which, starting 190 00:21:53,290 --> 00:21:57,330 at 09:00 a.m. on December 23, they will be available 191 00:21:57,330 --> 00:22:00,210 on a first come, first serve basis at the Mortgage 192 00:22:00,210 --> 00:22:04,250 center, 192 1st street. If anyone is wanting more detail. 193 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:10,090 They can call 705 445-1300 and that's what I have. 194 00:22:10,090 --> 00:22:14,556 Thank you, Councilor Jeffrey. Thank you very much, Mayor Hamlin. 195 00:22:14,556 --> 00:22:19,356 So, firstly, I just want to remind my council colleagues 196 00:22:19,356 --> 00:22:20,996 that the coldest night of the year is going to 197 00:22:20,996 --> 00:22:23,756 be upon us again for February 28, so if you 198 00:22:23,756 --> 00:22:25,956 market in your calendars. I'll get the team set up 199 00:22:25,956 --> 00:22:29,356 and hopefully everybody. Will participate, and we can help some 200 00:22:29,356 --> 00:22:32,916 unhoused youth. And the next. It was a pleasure. To 201 00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:36,785 do. Some pipe drops and presentations at the Silverstick regional 202 00:22:36,785 --> 00:22:40,406 tournament yesterday at the Eddie bush arena. And we had 203 00:22:40,406 --> 00:22:43,086 one calling with team in the finals and they won 204 00:22:43,086 --> 00:22:48,368 their game. And our administrative coordinator, I believe, is her 205 00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:49,928 title. Her son was on the team, so it was. 206 00:22:49,928 --> 00:22:54,686 A pleasure to present. To those champions who were participate 207 00:22:54,686 --> 00:22:58,286 in the international tournament in pellum on January 8. So 208 00:22:58,286 --> 00:23:02,086 congratulations. To coaches, players, and for a game well played. 209 00:23:03,781 --> 00:23:06,257 And then just. I think this is our last. Meeting 210 00:23:06,257 --> 00:23:09,617 before our holiday break, so I would just wish residents 211 00:23:09,617 --> 00:23:13,577 and staff and my colleagues the best. For the season 212 00:23:13,577 --> 00:23:16,457 and I celebrate. Merry Christmas. So merry Christmas. But happy 213 00:23:16,457 --> 00:23:20,737 holidays for everybody else. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Dougherty. 214 00:23:22,397 --> 00:23:26,905 Thank you, mayor. This is just to remind the community 215 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:32,492 that the association and municipalities of Ontario is offering. A 216 00:23:32,492 --> 00:23:38,568 webinar series entitled stronger leaders and stronger communities. And it 217 00:23:38,568 --> 00:23:44,712 offers. Information and guidance for individuals seeking election for the 218 00:23:44,712 --> 00:23:51,529 first time to municipal government. Or even members of council 219 00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:56,769 now who are seeking reelection. The registration was so strong 220 00:23:56,769 --> 00:24:02,128 that. It was sold out. Or I shouldn't even say 221 00:24:02,128 --> 00:24:09,364 sold because it's free, but. It was. Totally subscribed. So 222 00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:16,323 another stream. Of webinars is offered starting in February. And 223 00:24:16,323 --> 00:24:18,763 if you would like more information, you can find it 224 00:24:18,763 --> 00:24:24,717 at the association and municipalities of Ontario. Website. Amo on 225 00:24:24,717 --> 00:24:31,253 ca. And I also would like to wish my colleagues 226 00:24:31,253 --> 00:24:35,412 and staff. And our community the very, very best of 227 00:24:35,412 --> 00:24:41,278 the holiday season. And good luck, good health and prosperity 228 00:24:41,278 --> 00:24:46,496 in 2020. Six. Can't believe I said that. Thank you, 229 00:24:46,496 --> 00:24:52,172 mayor. 2027. Why not? Thank you for all those wishes. 230 00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:56,246 Okay, Councilor Potts. Thanks. Mary Hamlin. I messaged a couple 231 00:24:56,246 --> 00:24:59,286 of messages from the BIA. The BIA would like to 232 00:24:59,286 --> 00:25:04,257 pass. On their sincere appreciation for town staff. This past 233 00:25:04,257 --> 00:25:07,417 weekend. For those that repaired the break to the team, 234 00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:10,497 they kept our office informed of updates as they happen. 235 00:25:10,497 --> 00:25:13,497 So we communicate to our members quickly. So, please, the 236 00:25:13,497 --> 00:25:15,617 town and health unit. We're able to work together to 237 00:25:15,617 --> 00:25:17,617 determine that our downtown was able to open as soon 238 00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:20,777 as possible as this critical time for our small business 239 00:25:20,777 --> 00:25:24,081 community. Also, the final Christmas market is back this Friday. 240 00:25:25,897 --> 00:25:28,817 December 19 at 05:00 p.m. to 08:00 p.m. find the 241 00:25:28,817 --> 00:25:32,097 perfect gift from our downtown merchants and market vendors enjoy 242 00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:35,777 strolling entertainers along the street, taking a free horse and 243 00:25:35,777 --> 00:25:38,857 wagon ride, leaving from town hall and visit sand in 244 00:25:38,857 --> 00:25:41,657 the Big Red slay at 84 here, Ontario street, across 245 00:25:41,657 --> 00:25:44,577 from town hall. Santa will be back there on Saturday, 246 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:47,048 December 20 from noon. To three for his final visit 247 00:25:47,048 --> 00:25:49,568 to Colio before he heads back to the North Pole 248 00:25:49,568 --> 00:25:53,165 to get ready for the big night. And just another 249 00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:55,045 note, just with the weather events we've had in the 250 00:25:55,045 --> 00:25:57,965 last week, like to pass on my appreciation to the 251 00:25:57,965 --> 00:26:02,710 public works team. For the diligent snow removal and road 252 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:07,997 maintenance and sidewalk maintenance. It's gone very noticed. And to 253 00:26:07,997 --> 00:26:11,077 all my colleagues and the residents of the community, happy. 254 00:26:11,077 --> 00:26:16,934 Holidays. And all the best for 2026. Thanks. Thank you. 255 00:26:18,312 --> 00:26:22,592 Councilor ring thank you very much, Mayor Hamlin. No announcements 256 00:26:22,592 --> 00:26:24,272 to make, but I, too, would like to wish all 257 00:26:24,272 --> 00:26:28,632 of council staff and residents of Collingwood happy holidays and 258 00:26:28,632 --> 00:26:36,593 a very merry Christmas. Happy, healthy and prosperous. 2026. Thank 259 00:26:36,593 --> 00:26:41,141 you, Councilor Baines. Following up on that. For those of 260 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,301 you who follow social media, you might have seen all 261 00:26:43,301 --> 00:26:47,701 the postings from the Christmas market last Friday, particularly in 262 00:26:47,701 --> 00:26:51,861 regard to our wonderful museum's booth and the number of 263 00:26:51,861 --> 00:26:53,701 items that they were selling. So I would say to 264 00:26:53,701 --> 00:26:57,181 all, if you have not yet purchased as some of 265 00:26:57,181 --> 00:27:00,221 us haven't. All of your Christmas gifts, or, indeed, any 266 00:27:00,221 --> 00:27:03,697 of them. Attend the Christmas market this coming Friday night. 267 00:27:06,005 --> 00:27:08,125 December the 19th. And you can pick up everything you 268 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:11,805 need for your stockings and under the tree. In addition, 269 00:27:11,805 --> 00:27:15,645 afterwards, you might consider taking in the wonderful Collingwood Blues, 270 00:27:15,645 --> 00:27:19,885 who will be playing at the Eddie Bush arena. And 271 00:27:19,885 --> 00:27:24,765 whilst there, you might purchase 50. 50 tickets. Yours truly 272 00:27:24,765 --> 00:27:27,856 will be selling 50. 50 tickets. I point out to 273 00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:29,576 all of you that if you are lucky enough to 274 00:27:29,576 --> 00:27:32,216 win in the last pots have been somewhere between 900 275 00:27:32,216 --> 00:27:35,536 to one. $100. That's tax free. Well, at least we 276 00:27:35,536 --> 00:27:38,998 don't tell cra. And it could fund the purchase of 277 00:27:38,998 --> 00:27:45,590 those Christmas gifts outside on here, Ontario Street. So. You've 278 00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:47,590 got lots to consider. And I, too, would love to 279 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:50,950 add my best wishes for the holidays and for Christmas 280 00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:54,590 to our staff and to all my colleagues as well, 281 00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:58,350 because I think it's been a challenging and hard working 282 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:01,702 year for all of us. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks 283 00:28:01,702 --> 00:28:06,503 for the gift tips. Councilor Perry. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. 284 00:28:06,503 --> 00:28:09,583 I do have a couple of library announcements. This is 285 00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:13,618 a repeat, but it's starting today. The library will be 286 00:28:13,618 --> 00:28:17,338 looking seasonal with winter. I spy you can pick up 287 00:28:17,338 --> 00:28:20,058 your game card in the children's area, and the search 288 00:28:20,058 --> 00:28:22,818 will take you through both floors of the library. Once 289 00:28:22,818 --> 00:28:25,338 you find all the items, submit a ballot for a 290 00:28:25,338 --> 00:28:28,018 chance to win your own board game. All ages are 291 00:28:28,018 --> 00:28:31,178 welcome to play, and it runs from December 15 to 292 00:28:31,178 --> 00:28:35,859 December 23. And I bring seasoned greetings from the Collingwood 293 00:28:35,859 --> 00:28:39,554 Public Library. As the year comes to a close, we 294 00:28:39,554 --> 00:28:43,474 extend our heartfelt gratitude to our community for your continued 295 00:28:43,474 --> 00:28:47,834 support and encouragement. Engagement. Sorry. Libraries are more than books. 296 00:28:47,834 --> 00:28:51,754 They are places of connection, learning and inspiration. And that's 297 00:28:51,754 --> 00:28:55,838 possible because of our community. This holiday season bring joy, 298 00:28:55,838 --> 00:29:00,498 peace. And time to enjoy a good book. We look 299 00:29:00,498 --> 00:29:03,777 forward to. Welcoming you in the new year as we 300 00:29:03,777 --> 00:29:07,537 continue to grow together. Happy holidays and best wishes for 301 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:13,642 2026. Thank you, Councilor McCullough. Thank you, Mary. Nothing to 302 00:29:13,642 --> 00:29:17,042 add on public announcements, but just to echo my colleagues 303 00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:22,580 statements. Very happy holidays to staff, colleagues and everyone else 304 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,700 with an earshot and all the best for a happy, 305 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:29,964 healthy, prosperous 2026. Well, I don't think I need to 306 00:29:29,964 --> 00:29:32,604 say it again, but thank you, everyone, for saying. It 307 00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:35,244 for me and really looking forward to the end of 308 00:29:35,244 --> 00:29:40,339 this year. And great next year, and I hope everyone 309 00:29:40,339 --> 00:29:44,539 has a great holiday, so thank you. Okay, so next 310 00:29:44,539 --> 00:29:48,099 we are doing deputations, and there are three today. Abby 311 00:29:48,099 --> 00:29:53,715 Westlake will. Be speaking first. Is that? Be online, perhaps? 312 00:29:55,056 --> 00:29:56,736 Oh, you're there. Oh, sir, I didn't see you back 313 00:29:56,736 --> 00:30:06,294 there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for allowing me to 314 00:30:06,294 --> 00:30:13,606 come up and speak today. I had brought forward to 315 00:30:13,606 --> 00:30:17,726 Yvonne Hamlin with regards our concern for Third street and 316 00:30:17,726 --> 00:30:20,606 the safety on that street and had presented a letter 317 00:30:20,606 --> 00:30:23,966 as well, which I'm to read. I'm writing as a 318 00:30:23,966 --> 00:30:26,766 fourth generation resident of Collingwood and a parent who is 319 00:30:26,766 --> 00:30:30,086 deeply concerned about the ongoing safety issues at the intersection 320 00:30:30,086 --> 00:30:34,081 of Third and Third street and cedar. On November 25, 321 00:30:34,081 --> 00:30:36,681 our 16 year old son was traveling west on Third 322 00:30:36,681 --> 00:30:38,801 street when he was struck. By a driver who failed 323 00:30:38,801 --> 00:30:41,961 to stop properly at the Cedar street stop sign. The 324 00:30:41,961 --> 00:30:45,584 collision caused significant damage to his vehicle. Has now been 325 00:30:45,584 --> 00:30:49,464 declared a total loss. This particular vehicle was especially meaningful 326 00:30:49,464 --> 00:30:51,504 to him, as he had purchased it with his own 327 00:30:51,504 --> 00:30:54,984 money and spent considerable time refurbishing both the body and 328 00:30:54,984 --> 00:30:58,664 the engine himself. A tremendous achievement for a young person 329 00:30:58,664 --> 00:31:01,504 of his age, seeing that hard work destroyed. In an 330 00:31:01,504 --> 00:31:05,024 instant has been devastating to him and our family. More 331 00:31:05,024 --> 00:31:07,485 importantly, This is not the first time our son has 332 00:31:07,485 --> 00:31:10,725 been involved in a serious collision with inadequate traffic. Control 333 00:31:10,725 --> 00:31:13,525 in this area. When he was just six years old, 334 00:31:13,525 --> 00:31:16,565 he was struck by a driver at Maple and Third 335 00:31:16,565 --> 00:31:20,045 street. It is deeply troubling that nearly a decade later, 336 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:24,142 similar conditions continue. To put our community. And particularly youth 337 00:31:24,142 --> 00:31:28,662 and pedestrians at risk. The third street corridor experiences heavily 338 00:31:28,662 --> 00:31:33,582 pedestrian traffic, including students, families and local residents. The current 339 00:31:33,582 --> 00:31:35,822 two way stop at third and cedar is no longer 340 00:31:35,822 --> 00:31:39,062 sufficient to manage the volume and behavior of drivers using 341 00:31:39,062 --> 00:31:42,622 this route, as shown by repeated collisions and near misses. 342 00:31:42,622 --> 00:31:46,756 The lack of. Fourway stop creates unnecessary danger. For those 343 00:31:46,756 --> 00:31:49,716 reasons, I am formally requesting that the town of Collingwood 344 00:31:49,716 --> 00:31:53,409 install a four way stop at the intersection of. Third 345 00:31:53,409 --> 00:31:57,009 street and Cedar street. This improvement is overdue and would 346 00:31:57,009 --> 00:32:01,369 significantly enhance safety for drivers, cyclists and pedestrians alike. We 347 00:32:01,369 --> 00:32:03,849 appreciate the town's commitment to road safety and hope this 348 00:32:03,849 --> 00:32:07,489 matter will be reviewed promptly and given the serious condition 349 00:32:07,489 --> 00:32:10,009 consideration it deserves. Our family and many others in the 350 00:32:10,009 --> 00:32:15,148 community believe that proactive action is needed. Before another preventable 351 00:32:15,148 --> 00:32:18,668 accident occurs. Thank you for your attention and concern with 352 00:32:18,668 --> 00:32:22,749 this. I was also given a letter from a girlfriend 353 00:32:22,749 --> 00:32:25,029 and didn't know if that should be read as well. 354 00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:28,941 You can if you'd like. Okay. Just want to tickle 355 00:32:28,941 --> 00:32:38,846 over. I think she submitted 356 00:32:38,846 --> 00:32:47,511 it, so I'm okay at this time, not. To. Yeah. 357 00:32:47,511 --> 00:32:49,969 Thank you very much. Okay, did anyone want to ask 358 00:32:49,969 --> 00:32:53,289 any questions of Abby while she's here? No, we'll be 359 00:32:53,289 --> 00:32:56,449 dealing with the motion later in the agenda. Thank you. 360 00:32:56,449 --> 00:33:01,610 Thank you. Kenneth Hale is our next deputy. On behalf 361 00:33:01,610 --> 00:33:10,967 of the Gergun Triangle Development Institute. Mayors, Deputy Mayor 362 00:33:10,967 --> 00:33:19,670 Council thank you for having me today. On. This agenda. 363 00:33:19,670 --> 00:33:21,550 My name is Kenneth Hale. I'm president of the Georgian 364 00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:27,109 Triangle Development institute. I'm here today to respectfully request a 365 00:33:27,109 --> 00:33:31,589 deferral on the planning fees increase. Through 2026. And I 366 00:33:31,589 --> 00:33:34,549 would first like to start by thanking you for deferring 367 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:37,949 the decision in November to allow us to continue to 368 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:41,669 work with staff in our discussions, and we did. Have 369 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:44,852 a follow up meeting on December 5. And this is 370 00:33:44,852 --> 00:33:47,052 a follow up to that meeting, so I would like 371 00:33:47,052 --> 00:33:52,612 to thank the CIO. And also director Valentine, director Alcoca, 372 00:33:52,612 --> 00:33:56,226 for taking their time to work with us. Next slide, 373 00:33:56,226 --> 00:34:01,470 please. So I've just iterated the request. We're asking that 374 00:34:01,470 --> 00:34:05,190 you defer any decision on a rate increase until 2026, 375 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:09,150 continuing to benchmark the current planning fees with CPI as 376 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:14,511 currently done. Next slide, please. I want to give you 377 00:34:14,511 --> 00:34:16,831 a little bit about who we are at GTI and 378 00:34:16,831 --> 00:34:20,111 build, build. Has been working with us on this presentation 379 00:34:20,111 --> 00:34:22,271 is strictly from GTI. Today we haven't. Had a time 380 00:34:22,271 --> 00:34:24,911 to coordinate on this representation, but they have been in 381 00:34:24,911 --> 00:34:27,591 all of the meetings with staff and are also concerned 382 00:34:27,591 --> 00:34:30,551 about the post rate increases. But as far as GTI 383 00:34:30,551 --> 00:34:34,788 is, we've been around since 1992. Incorporated 1992. And we 384 00:34:34,788 --> 00:34:37,468 are the largest collective group. We represent the largest collective 385 00:34:37,468 --> 00:34:42,502 group of employers in our region. We have members ranging 386 00:34:42,502 --> 00:34:46,862 in all facets of the development and building from the 387 00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:50,582 people in the field to the people at Arnett construction. 388 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:54,624 To. The engineers and the architects and the planners and 389 00:34:54,624 --> 00:34:57,664 the municipality. And most of us live here. Most of 390 00:34:57,664 --> 00:35:00,624 us raise families here. Most of us are here for 391 00:35:00,624 --> 00:35:06,162 the long haul. And we are proud of that, that 392 00:35:06,162 --> 00:35:08,202 we are part of this community. We are proud that 393 00:35:08,202 --> 00:35:11,082 we support this community, and we're here for the long 394 00:35:11,082 --> 00:35:15,688 haul. So thank you. Next slide. So when we were 395 00:35:15,688 --> 00:35:23,735 going through. This. We noticed the town planning review services, 396 00:35:23,735 --> 00:35:27,855 development review services is seeing what we're seeing. In the 397 00:35:27,855 --> 00:35:31,935 industry, a marked decline in the need for development and 398 00:35:31,935 --> 00:35:37,592 bus development services. We note that in the reports, the 399 00:35:37,592 --> 00:35:42,155 Collingwood planning applications for development are down some 23. Percent 400 00:35:42,155 --> 00:35:45,675 this year, and that is following a three year trend 401 00:35:45,675 --> 00:35:49,148 of averaging. A 17 year annual decline. Next slide, please. 402 00:35:50,839 --> 00:35:53,239 Okay. What is not picked up in here? So this 403 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:59,653 is from the 2026 budget in here. And I had 404 00:35:59,653 --> 00:36:03,129 highlighted, but. It's not on the slide. Is that if 405 00:36:03,129 --> 00:36:07,261 we look at the 2025 budget, Under expenses and services. 406 00:36:07,261 --> 00:36:10,696 This is for the growth and development management. We'll note 407 00:36:10,696 --> 00:36:15,416 that the budget for 2025 was $2.26 million, and it's 408 00:36:15,416 --> 00:36:18,456 proposed to go to, if I can read that. 3.281 409 00:36:18,456 --> 00:36:22,496 million dollars in 2026. So that is a marked increase 410 00:36:22,496 --> 00:36:27,273 in the growth and development budget. In 2026 when applications 411 00:36:27,273 --> 00:36:31,616 are down. Next slide, please. What we have here is. 412 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,100 The part of the budget which is dedicated to planning 413 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,590 and review services fees. So. These are the full time 414 00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:45,777 equivalents that. The town uses to provide the services to 415 00:36:45,777 --> 00:36:48,977 the development and building industry, or development industry, and we 416 00:36:48,977 --> 00:36:53,497 know, in 2025, there were 10.5 full time equivalents assigned 417 00:36:53,497 --> 00:36:56,497 to those tasks, and in 2026. It's proposed that that 418 00:36:56,497 --> 00:37:01,321 goes up to 12.7. So we're increasing the recoverable cost. 419 00:37:02,966 --> 00:37:07,375 To the planning and development fees. Next slide, please. So 420 00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:10,215 what we're saying is that there's a demand for town 421 00:37:10,215 --> 00:37:15,088 planning services. There's a continued decline in anecdotally, no one 422 00:37:15,088 --> 00:37:18,288 has a crystal ball of 2026. But I can say 423 00:37:18,288 --> 00:37:21,848 comfortably that the industry wide is playing for further decline 424 00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:26,012 in 26 as far as the need. For development services. 425 00:37:27,885 --> 00:37:30,125 What we notice in this budget is that the budget 426 00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:32,365 is increasing from two point three to three. Point three 427 00:37:32,365 --> 00:37:36,005 million dollars for those services and at the town recoverable 428 00:37:36,005 --> 00:37:40,365 costs. The cost that will be borne by development application 429 00:37:40,365 --> 00:37:42,605 fees is going from ten and a half full time 430 00:37:42,605 --> 00:37:48,922 equivalents to 12.7. Next slide, please. So what is the 431 00:37:48,922 --> 00:37:58,737 pros fanning fee increase? We'd like to note that 432 00:37:58,737 --> 00:38:03,496 the planning fees, although haven't been adjusted since 2010. They 433 00:38:03,496 --> 00:38:05,296 have been, to our knowledge, as noted in the staff 434 00:38:05,296 --> 00:38:10,182 report. A continued CPI index every year. Consumer price index 435 00:38:10,182 --> 00:38:14,102 every year. The town is proposing to triple or more. 436 00:38:14,102 --> 00:38:16,982 Some of the planning fees in here, for example, official 437 00:38:16,982 --> 00:38:21,984 plan amendments and some zoning by law stuff. And the 438 00:38:21,984 --> 00:38:24,664 town is proposing not to implement that all at once. 439 00:38:24,664 --> 00:38:26,784 They're proposing to do. It over a graduated four year 440 00:38:26,784 --> 00:38:31,864 schedule. So in 2026, the first tranche would be 25%. 441 00:38:31,864 --> 00:38:36,224 Of the ultimate proposed increase. So we do recognize that. 442 00:38:36,224 --> 00:38:42,850 Next slide, please. What we fear in the development industry 443 00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:46,370 is that there could be some unintended consequences here. And 444 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:50,010 that is if applications are down year over year and 445 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:54,130 the continuing decline if we increase now. Fees now and 446 00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:58,824 continue to try to recover more cost. From a declining 447 00:38:58,824 --> 00:39:02,622 customer pool. We're going to further exasperate the customer pool 448 00:39:02,622 --> 00:39:06,262 that we have and that is applications that would otherwise 449 00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:11,266 come forward. That probably will not. In 2026. So the 450 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:16,946 offsetting revenue that you might collect from increasing fees. Will 451 00:39:16,946 --> 00:39:19,995 decline because. You're going to have continued further collapse of 452 00:39:19,995 --> 00:39:25,339 your customer base. So that would be an unintended consequence 453 00:39:25,339 --> 00:39:28,259 that we fear that you'll see some. Of those applications 454 00:39:28,259 --> 00:39:30,739 that would otherwise come forward may not come forward in 455 00:39:30,739 --> 00:39:33,819 2026. And it's not just about the fees. It's about 456 00:39:33,819 --> 00:39:37,339 those projects that would bring in more housing. More affordable 457 00:39:37,339 --> 00:39:40,219 housing to the town of Hollywood that we're concerned that 458 00:39:40,219 --> 00:39:44,005 we want to see. That. As we come out of 459 00:39:44,005 --> 00:39:49,954 this downturn. So next slide, please. So, in conclusion, we 460 00:39:49,954 --> 00:39:54,314 are requesting the council continued benchmarking the fees with CPI 461 00:39:54,314 --> 00:40:00,994 through 2026. And defer decision on rate increases until. Through 462 00:40:00,994 --> 00:40:03,754 2026. Thank you. And I'm here to answer any of 463 00:40:03,754 --> 00:40:07,383 your questions. Okay, thanks very much. We do actually have 464 00:40:07,383 --> 00:40:10,543 a report on this later in the agenda, but would 465 00:40:10,543 --> 00:40:13,583 anyone have any questions for Mr. Hale while he's here? 466 00:40:13,583 --> 00:40:16,743 Councilor Paynes, give Mayor Hamlin to Mr. Hale. I think 467 00:40:16,743 --> 00:40:21,588 just questions of clarification. Sure. I'm assuming those fees that 468 00:40:21,588 --> 00:40:25,886 you wish are deferment on are exactly those ones. In 469 00:40:25,886 --> 00:40:29,086 the schedule you showed and are proposed to go from 470 00:40:29,086 --> 00:40:34,942 2.3 to 3.3. As you indicated. In revenue. Yes, go 471 00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:38,667 ahead. Through the mayor to councilor. No, that was the 472 00:40:38,667 --> 00:40:41,827 2026 budget. The fees that I'm. Requesting are as noted 473 00:40:41,827 --> 00:40:48,347 in the original slide staff report, p specifically, the planning 474 00:40:48,347 --> 00:40:52,408 and engineering. Fee increases. Our members have no comment on 475 00:40:52,408 --> 00:40:55,808 the building fee increase. It's the planning fees. That our 476 00:40:55,808 --> 00:40:58,088 members have comment on it is that staff report that 477 00:40:58,088 --> 00:41:00,928 we're wishing a deferral on. Understood. And as a follow 478 00:41:00,928 --> 00:41:03,528 up and the deferment you're looking for is essentially for 479 00:41:03,528 --> 00:41:07,208 the year 2026, tax year. What we're looking for is 480 00:41:07,208 --> 00:41:12,594 that. This be paused until next year. Then revisit it. 481 00:41:12,594 --> 00:41:16,187 What? We prefer not to see. Is it passed, and 482 00:41:16,187 --> 00:41:19,627 then they just get triggered in 2027 rather than 2026, 483 00:41:19,627 --> 00:41:20,907 I think. We need to have a pause to see 484 00:41:20,907 --> 00:41:24,067 how 2026 turns out in terms of number of applications, 485 00:41:24,067 --> 00:41:26,547 the needs for service, and then have this discussion in 486 00:41:26,547 --> 00:41:30,881 a year's time. Understood. Thank you. No further questions. Okay. 487 00:41:30,881 --> 00:41:33,281 All right. Thanks very much for coming. Thank you, everybody. 488 00:41:35,066 --> 00:41:38,306 And the next reputation is on behalf of the Georgian 489 00:41:38,306 --> 00:41:44,804 Bay School. I have here nancy black and janice McDonald. 490 00:41:51,678 --> 00:41:54,598 Good afternoon, Mayor Hamlin, members of council, thank you for 491 00:41:54,598 --> 00:41:57,078 the opportunity to speak. As mentioned, I'm Nancy Black. This 492 00:41:57,078 --> 00:41:59,718 is my partner, Janice, who doesn't get the microphone very 493 00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:04,389 often. But she's here with me. We're here to address 494 00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:09,189 by law number 2025 86. The 2026 fees and service. 495 00:42:09,189 --> 00:42:11,229 Charge by loads you're going to be facing and a 496 00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:16,047 fee classification. Therein. Our club uses the same pool in 497 00:42:16,047 --> 00:42:18,687 the same way to deliver the same community benefit as 498 00:42:18,687 --> 00:42:21,607 other. Groups. Yet we do face, and we are charged 499 00:42:21,607 --> 00:42:24,487 with dramatically different fees now, and even more so with 500 00:42:24,487 --> 00:42:28,027 the proposed changes. We're asking what might sound like special 501 00:42:28,027 --> 00:42:30,307 treatment, and I was going to delete that. Line, but 502 00:42:30,307 --> 00:42:32,987 I thought maybe that's okay to be asking for special 503 00:42:32,987 --> 00:42:38,146 treatment. We are special. And a little different. We'd like 504 00:42:38,146 --> 00:42:40,786 you to align our fees with community impact and with 505 00:42:40,786 --> 00:42:43,706 the town's. Own strategic goals, so it requires only a 506 00:42:43,706 --> 00:42:47,272 bylaw adjustment. For you to change the whole bylaw itself. 507 00:42:47,272 --> 00:42:51,788 But just an amendment to it. Next slide, please. So 508 00:42:51,788 --> 00:42:54,748 what mentioned were the squall three time provincial Masters champions 509 00:42:54,748 --> 00:42:57,548 and bringing some pride to the community. We host events. 510 00:42:57,548 --> 00:43:01,068 We bring visitors to Collingwood who contribute to the economy. 511 00:43:01,068 --> 00:43:04,428 Also in our strategic planning, hopefully through our member development. 512 00:43:04,428 --> 00:43:07,348 We're deeply involved in the community because we really do 513 00:43:07,348 --> 00:43:11,356 work hard. To be model citizens inside and outside the 514 00:43:11,356 --> 00:43:12,676 pool. I'm going to go through the first couple of 515 00:43:12,676 --> 00:43:14,036 slides pretty quickly because I'm going to get to the 516 00:43:14,036 --> 00:43:16,836 meat of our presentation. So, next slide, please. Although I 517 00:43:16,836 --> 00:43:20,116 hope you had a chance to read those regarding community 518 00:43:20,116 --> 00:43:23,876 impact, we have over 140 members, and they're adults, of 519 00:43:23,876 --> 00:43:27,556 course, of all ages, including a paralympic hopeful. Who's training 520 00:43:27,556 --> 00:43:31,404 for the 2028 Olympics. Our club is living proof of 521 00:43:31,404 --> 00:43:36,124 Canada's sport for life model, delivering safe, coached, inclusive adult 522 00:43:36,124 --> 00:43:39,484 fitness with strong social connection. Those are all their tenements, 523 00:43:39,484 --> 00:43:43,084 sometimes weirdly called cradle to grave, which I find is 524 00:43:43,084 --> 00:43:46,975 a weird expression, but you get the idea. Of that 525 00:43:46,975 --> 00:43:50,668 trajectory. We run six workouts a week. And all of 526 00:43:50,668 --> 00:43:53,908 them but an early morning one, have waitlists we consistently. 527 00:43:55,409 --> 00:43:57,449 Fill every lane. Our waitlist is about 30 people, and 528 00:43:57,449 --> 00:43:59,649 we don't try to recruit. We've stopped doing that. We're 529 00:43:59,649 --> 00:44:02,809 telling people, don't even come to us. Demand is high. 530 00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:08,614 Supply lane time is a constraint. Next slide, please. So 531 00:44:08,614 --> 00:44:12,018 wherein is the issue? Is that you have a lot 532 00:44:12,018 --> 00:44:13,858 of things to cover. I get it. I'll try to. 533 00:44:13,858 --> 00:44:16,778 Condense this down to these points, which is this? Youth, 534 00:44:16,778 --> 00:44:19,818 not profit, clubs or rentals pay. $55 an hour currently. 535 00:44:21,888 --> 00:44:25,448 We pay $110 an hour currently, which is 100% more 536 00:44:25,448 --> 00:44:28,728 than that same pool space, so. While we knew this, 537 00:44:28,728 --> 00:44:33,666 and we reluctantly accepted it. We were okay? Not really. 538 00:44:33,666 --> 00:44:35,866 But until we learned that we were now being moved 539 00:44:35,866 --> 00:44:39,426 from the basic category into commercial category, adding another 10% 540 00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:42,066 increase on the plan, 2% increase, which we kind of 541 00:44:42,066 --> 00:44:47,689 knew about. Your own facility. Delegation policy defines commercial users 542 00:44:47,689 --> 00:44:52,369 as organizations whose primary purposes to make a profit. That 543 00:44:52,369 --> 00:44:55,209 is not us. By your own definition, we do not 544 00:44:55,209 --> 00:44:58,563 belong in that category. At a minimum, we request to 545 00:44:58,563 --> 00:45:02,636 remain invasive. And to save you all time, I could 546 00:45:02,636 --> 00:45:05,436 leave there because I feel like that's one. Step of 547 00:45:05,436 --> 00:45:08,965 the things we were hoping to accomplish today. But I'm 548 00:45:08,965 --> 00:45:12,285 still going to talk. As my swimmers well know, there's 549 00:45:12,285 --> 00:45:15,965 always more. But now that this classification, this was brought 550 00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,405 to the forefront, for us to really look at this, 551 00:45:19,812 --> 00:45:23,732 We're asking a bigger question. Why do adults pay double 552 00:45:23,732 --> 00:45:27,246 what the kids pay? For identical use and identical public 553 00:45:27,246 --> 00:45:31,164 benefit in this town. The difference is not based on 554 00:45:31,164 --> 00:45:35,525 usage cost react. It's based solely on age category and 555 00:45:35,525 --> 00:45:41,282 potentially tax structured classification. So. While this practice does exist 556 00:45:41,282 --> 00:45:44,722 in some other Ontario municipalities, because this policy didn't come 557 00:45:44,722 --> 00:45:47,042 out of the blue. But in a town that promotes 558 00:45:47,042 --> 00:45:49,602 healthy act of living and has a disproportionately large adult 559 00:45:49,602 --> 00:45:54,388 and senior population. This. Call it age based price gap. 560 00:45:54,388 --> 00:45:58,308 Works against your own public health goals. Not to deviate 561 00:45:58,308 --> 00:46:02,428 too far. But internationally, countries that have large adult fitness 562 00:46:02,428 --> 00:46:06,668 numbers or their adult population is healthier, like Australia, Sweden, 563 00:46:06,668 --> 00:46:11,165 Denmark, Finland. They actually have tighter policies that align kids 564 00:46:11,165 --> 00:46:14,525 with adults. There isn't a distinction. And so Ontario. While 565 00:46:14,525 --> 00:46:17,085 it's changing, Ontario does sit kind of at the high 566 00:46:17,085 --> 00:46:20,045 end of that spectrum. For adult aquatics, and it shows 567 00:46:20,045 --> 00:46:24,182 because. In our country. I don't have Ontario's jets. 46% 568 00:46:24,182 --> 00:46:26,222 of the population is. As fit, as out of population, 569 00:46:26,222 --> 00:46:28,302 as fit as it should be. So our adults aren't. 570 00:46:28,302 --> 00:46:30,502 As healthy as some of those aforementioned countries that treat 571 00:46:30,502 --> 00:46:34,182 those two entities as one, but they can be here. 572 00:46:34,182 --> 00:46:37,342 Municipal recreation policy should classify users based on community benefit. 573 00:46:38,801 --> 00:46:40,401 Like, not corporate paperwork. And I know that some of 574 00:46:40,401 --> 00:46:41,881 the stuff you have to deal with all the time. 575 00:46:41,881 --> 00:46:44,121 I just realized when I'm saying corporate paperwork or municipal 576 00:46:44,121 --> 00:46:48,040 paperwork, I'm sure you have a lot of it. Master 577 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640 swim clubs typically operate like not for profits, whether or 578 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,720 not they are formally structured in that way. So typically, 579 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,840 profits aren't taken so that fees can go literally into 580 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,800 the pool. Rental competition. Special training, coaches and insurance, just 581 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,874 like it does on the kids club. If the town 582 00:47:03,874 --> 00:47:07,314 believes the corporate structure is relevant, then I ask plainly 583 00:47:07,314 --> 00:47:11,032 if we. Switch to not profit status. Would you align 584 00:47:11,032 --> 00:47:15,066 our fees directly with that youth rate? And if you 585 00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:18,226 don't, then the corporate structures are not really the issue. 586 00:47:18,226 --> 00:47:22,880 Next slide, please. So sort of why this caused pools 587 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,396 have this came up in the executive presentation regarding. Our 588 00:47:27,396 --> 00:47:29,916 potential new pool in town. Pools have pretty high fixed 589 00:47:29,916 --> 00:47:33,876 costs, and they don't change. When prices rise, they change 590 00:47:33,876 --> 00:47:36,516 when the lane sipped empty. So cost recovery is driven 591 00:47:36,516 --> 00:47:40,556 by utilization, not higher fees. We rent year round off 592 00:47:40,556 --> 00:47:44,196 peak times and reliably fill all the lanes. We provide 593 00:47:44,196 --> 00:47:46,356 predictable. And that's kind of a key word here, stable 594 00:47:46,356 --> 00:47:49,447 re. Revenue. And that will matter a lot. It matters 595 00:47:49,447 --> 00:47:51,727 now, but it'll also matter a lot. If we all 596 00:47:51,727 --> 00:47:54,887 get a new pool. So we've repeatedly asked for additional 597 00:47:54,887 --> 00:47:57,087 pool time, including Sunday mornings when the pool does sit 598 00:47:57,087 --> 00:47:59,447 empty. And there are reasons for that, including lifeguarding. However. 599 00:48:00,814 --> 00:48:03,214 It could be a priority to get the pool open 600 00:48:03,214 --> 00:48:06,854 for longer hours because this pool is under opened relative 601 00:48:06,854 --> 00:48:09,254 to other municipal pools? I don't know. That's not a 602 00:48:09,254 --> 00:48:12,943 real word. Please don't anticipate recorded. You can delete that? 603 00:48:12,943 --> 00:48:17,172 Somebody does. It's a good thank you. Just this past 604 00:48:17,172 --> 00:48:20,651 season, this full season. If we had 2 hours of 605 00:48:20,651 --> 00:48:23,691 pool time on Sunday mornings in this season, we would 606 00:48:23,691 --> 00:48:28,531 have denvered $8,140 at the current rates, way more than 607 00:48:28,531 --> 00:48:35,097 you'd produce in sort of these incremental increases. Increasing utilization 608 00:48:35,097 --> 00:48:38,257 generates more revenue than increasing rates, so giving more pool 609 00:48:38,257 --> 00:48:39,977 time to high demand users like us is a win 610 00:48:39,977 --> 00:48:43,097 win. More access for residents, more revenue for the town. 611 00:48:43,097 --> 00:48:44,697 And we don't. Have enough time, this presentation. But if 612 00:48:44,697 --> 00:48:49,113 this bylaw is about money, which. Was part of what 613 00:48:49,113 --> 00:48:51,233 I saw in the rationale points that were sent to 614 00:48:51,233 --> 00:48:55,251 me. But this speaks to then the priorities that you 615 00:48:55,251 --> 00:48:58,731 have regarding who uses a pool and how it's used, 616 00:48:58,731 --> 00:49:00,731 and that's too big of a conversation to get into, 617 00:49:00,731 --> 00:49:03,953 but it does. Have to do with. Our usage is 618 00:49:03,953 --> 00:49:08,892 stable and full. Compared to how the town itself sometimes 619 00:49:08,892 --> 00:49:13,361 might make the pool available. So, next slide, please. We're 620 00:49:13,361 --> 00:49:16,881 proposing a straightforward solution. So one off was to remove 621 00:49:16,881 --> 00:49:21,459 the Georgia based wall from the commercial category and. I 622 00:49:21,459 --> 00:49:22,779 feel like. I hope that we can agree to that. 623 00:49:22,779 --> 00:49:24,379 I don't need to have nods at the head. Because 624 00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:25,979 I know you're going to be discussing it later because 625 00:49:25,979 --> 00:49:32,720 we're looking for. A specific amendment. So one is, let's 626 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,880 start with that. Then the other would be, hey. Hang 627 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,120 on a second. Back to this whole we're a basic 628 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,400 user, then there are other kids, not for profits. Why 629 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,400 do we live in this other world? We're not like 630 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,200 some. Of the basic other renters, which can include a 631 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,103 number of entities. So maybe. You actually devise a category 632 00:49:51,103 --> 00:49:55,423 that's called a community health sport provider. Community sport provider. 633 00:49:55,423 --> 00:49:59,157 Probably is too general, because that could include. A number 634 00:49:59,157 --> 00:50:02,517 of entities, but we are unique in what we offer. 635 00:50:02,517 --> 00:50:05,237 So kind of worst cases that you keep us in 636 00:50:05,237 --> 00:50:08,557 basic better is that you have an impact based rate. 637 00:50:08,557 --> 00:50:10,157 It would be really interesting for you to look at 638 00:50:10,157 --> 00:50:15,424 that, where maybe instead of us paying 100%, More than 639 00:50:15,424 --> 00:50:18,304 the kids pay that we pay 50% more. Like I'm 640 00:50:18,304 --> 00:50:22,335 a reasonable person. I'm reasonable. And as I say those 641 00:50:22,335 --> 00:50:25,295 numbers, I'm saying we're happy. To pay 50% more, and 642 00:50:25,295 --> 00:50:30,373 it's still a little bit. Weird to say that, right? 643 00:50:31,461 --> 00:50:33,661 That the fees aren't in line, that this adult club 644 00:50:33,661 --> 00:50:35,941 that does all these same things. As a kids would 645 00:50:35,941 --> 00:50:39,501 pay. Why? And I haven't had anybody give me an 646 00:50:39,501 --> 00:50:45,826 answer, ever. As to. Why kids programs should be funded 647 00:50:45,826 --> 00:50:49,986 differently than adult programs, or, conversely, why adult programs should 648 00:50:49,986 --> 00:50:53,471 be charged more. I also want to clarify the corporate 649 00:50:53,471 --> 00:50:56,899 structure once and for all. Because this has been dealt 650 00:50:56,899 --> 00:50:58,979 with other communities where they deal with this profit, not 651 00:50:58,979 --> 00:51:01,419 for profit, and who's doing what. If the organization is 652 00:51:01,419 --> 00:51:03,699 benefiting the town and providing a service that you need 653 00:51:03,699 --> 00:51:07,116 and you can't provide. I don't mean be so flippant 654 00:51:07,116 --> 00:51:10,397 about it, but who cares how it's? Set up. I've 655 00:51:10,397 --> 00:51:11,837 been a not for profit. It's truly required for equitable 656 00:51:11,837 --> 00:51:16,748 fees. We will make that change. But Felign should reflect 657 00:51:16,748 --> 00:51:19,948 function and public benefit, not necessarily forms so, next slide, 658 00:51:19,948 --> 00:51:23,738 please. I thought this would be wording that you'd be 659 00:51:23,738 --> 00:51:25,818 familiar with, because I know that. It's important to have 660 00:51:25,818 --> 00:51:30,732 things like whereas, and whereas, and whereas. Because you do 661 00:51:30,732 --> 00:51:33,647 have to outline. Sort of. Why did you get to 662 00:51:33,647 --> 00:51:35,927 your point where you're saying therefore or that and that. 663 00:51:37,875 --> 00:51:40,475 And so I wrote some of these thinking that, okay, 664 00:51:40,475 --> 00:51:42,955 let's prop up. Let's. Prop this up so you can 665 00:51:42,955 --> 00:51:44,915 actually have this. But since I wrote that, I had 666 00:51:44,915 --> 00:51:48,165 to submit. This on last Friday at noon. Some of 667 00:51:48,165 --> 00:51:49,605 them would change. Because at first I'm thinking, fine, just 668 00:51:49,605 --> 00:51:51,405 keep us out of the commercial category. That's not what 669 00:51:51,405 --> 00:51:54,619 we're asking here anymore. Because we'd like you to take 670 00:51:54,619 --> 00:51:56,179 a pretty good look at this, and I don't. Know 671 00:51:56,179 --> 00:51:59,628 how much time I think I'm okay for time. Oh, 672 00:51:59,628 --> 00:52:02,948 perfect for wrap up. There are some words. There is 673 00:52:02,948 --> 00:52:04,508 somewhere in there that we could use. I think Daniel 674 00:52:04,508 --> 00:52:05,988 has access. To it that can put it into your 675 00:52:05,988 --> 00:52:07,588 paperwork so you don't have to rewrite. This kind of 676 00:52:07,588 --> 00:52:12,619 stuff, but through quest of motion, actually. I think that's 677 00:52:12,619 --> 00:52:15,259 it. Well, I want to make sure that we're excluded 678 00:52:15,259 --> 00:52:19,831 from the first, as I mentioned. Sorry. I'm just going 679 00:52:19,831 --> 00:52:21,071 to quickly go into the last one. So, the last 680 00:52:21,071 --> 00:52:25,213 slide, please. The next slide, please. Yeah. Thank you. Sorry. 681 00:52:25,213 --> 00:52:26,733 On this, I'm going to tell you this. I'd like 682 00:52:26,733 --> 00:52:28,053 you to flip at our club. Or we'd like you 683 00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:30,693 to look. At our club as a youth at heart. 684 00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:32,453 So if you're called a youth club, where youth at 685 00:52:32,453 --> 00:52:35,533 Heart Club. We are community health asset. We're a reliable 686 00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:38,573 partner in the pool. In terms of its utilization and 687 00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:40,933 cost recovery. So do I need to recap the items 688 00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:45,569 that we were. Really clear, but thank you. And you 689 00:52:45,569 --> 00:52:47,729 know what? Thank you for explaining how you use the 690 00:52:47,729 --> 00:52:50,209 pool. And the nature of your organization. Thank you. The 691 00:52:50,209 --> 00:52:53,729 fact you could even use more lanes. Yes, we really 692 00:52:53,729 --> 00:52:55,809 could. Yeah, I hear you. Thank you for letting us 693 00:52:55,809 --> 00:52:58,009 speak today. Thank you. And there may be a question 694 00:52:58,009 --> 00:53:01,689 here in this moment. Council thanks, Mayor Hamlin, and thanks 695 00:53:01,689 --> 00:53:05,376 for the presentation that's a very good. Motion. I have 696 00:53:05,376 --> 00:53:07,136 a question. I think this is for staff. When we 697 00:53:07,136 --> 00:53:10,576 talk about the Sunday mornings sitting vacant or sitting. And 698 00:53:10,576 --> 00:53:14,216 this will be through to director Cuban. Understanding is probably 699 00:53:14,216 --> 00:53:16,096 operational, so I don't think there'd be any direction that 700 00:53:16,096 --> 00:53:19,296 would be needed. But is there a possibility? Or what 701 00:53:19,296 --> 00:53:21,096 would it take? Or what is the process to get 702 00:53:21,096 --> 00:53:25,985 that lane time opened? I know. There's staffing, probably. Challenges, 703 00:53:25,985 --> 00:53:28,519 but. What would be the next process to get it 704 00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:32,279 open to those times would be available. Thanks. Yeah. Go 705 00:53:32,279 --> 00:53:35,399 ahead. Thank you, Siri. Mayor Hanlin, I'm going to need 706 00:53:35,399 --> 00:53:37,599 to take this. Back to staff. We'll get a better 707 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,639 understanding and provide to you why it is that. We 708 00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:43,599 do have some time available and how we intend to 709 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:50,637 address that. Thank you, Councilor Dougherty. Thank you, mayor. 710 00:53:53,916 --> 00:53:56,716 I'd like to put forward a notice of motion to 711 00:53:56,716 --> 00:54:02,559 hold the fee increase for this. User group. Until we 712 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,199 have had a chance and staff have had a chance 713 00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:09,079 to take a look at your proposal and recommendations and 714 00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:16,531 then come back. With a possible solution and. I also 715 00:54:16,531 --> 00:54:20,051 would ask council to allow me to waive notice just 716 00:54:20,051 --> 00:54:22,971 based on the timing and that these fees would be. 717 00:54:24,311 --> 00:54:28,004 Going up imminently. Thank you. Thank you. Should we deal 718 00:54:28,004 --> 00:54:32,004 with this now, madam Clerk, or should we hold it? 719 00:54:32,004 --> 00:54:34,244 Thank you, worship. We do have the fees and charges 720 00:54:34,244 --> 00:54:36,564 motion that's coming up, and it could. Be an amendment 721 00:54:36,564 --> 00:54:38,564 to that piece, so I'll just confirm with the treasurer 722 00:54:38,564 --> 00:54:43,311 when that arises. We can confirm. Okay, so we'll hold 723 00:54:43,311 --> 00:54:47,591 it for now. Thank you. Okay. And also councilor Baines. 724 00:54:47,591 --> 00:54:50,071 Thank you. Mayor Hamlin, just a clarification question, if I 725 00:54:50,071 --> 00:54:54,724 might. I've had this discussion just recently with a number 726 00:54:54,724 --> 00:54:57,764 of other groups, and it is a question about the 727 00:54:57,764 --> 00:55:01,684 nonprofit status, or, in your case, the reason that you 728 00:55:01,684 --> 00:55:08,274 haven't applied for that. And secondly. Are you aware of 729 00:55:08,274 --> 00:55:12,114 any other compatriot groups like yours? Seniors leagues, if you 730 00:55:12,114 --> 00:55:18,776 will. That have. Achieved nonprofit status. And results as a 731 00:55:18,776 --> 00:55:21,296 result of that, are they having, quote, more success? I'm 732 00:55:21,296 --> 00:55:23,856 just trying to get that. I think it might be 733 00:55:23,856 --> 00:55:27,376 a consideration of yours to register for a nonprofit status. 734 00:55:30,004 --> 00:55:33,737 Who do I answer through? So we can do that. 735 00:55:33,737 --> 00:55:35,697 So when you say, have they had more success, do 736 00:55:35,697 --> 00:55:37,857 you mean more? Success as a club, because if we 737 00:55:37,857 --> 00:55:39,377 went to not for profit, and we can do that. 738 00:55:41,146 --> 00:55:42,066 We would not have greater. I think you meant success 739 00:55:42,066 --> 00:55:47,133 in getting pool time. Right? Money, actually. Not the. We're 740 00:55:47,133 --> 00:55:49,973 not asking for money, but I guess what the impetus 741 00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:52,613 would be. Imagine the fact that many not for profits 742 00:55:52,613 --> 00:55:55,173 can do exactly, or many clubs can do exactly that. 743 00:55:56,574 --> 00:56:01,125 Apply for not for profit status, run their organization. In 744 00:56:01,125 --> 00:56:03,485 any way. There's no control over how you run your 745 00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:05,725 organization just because you're. Not for profits. So that's where 746 00:56:05,725 --> 00:56:07,925 it's in. You need us to go. Do that. We 747 00:56:07,925 --> 00:56:10,365 can go do that. To comply with what you need. 748 00:56:10,365 --> 00:56:13,165 It doesn't make our organization run any better or do 749 00:56:13,165 --> 00:56:18,785 anything? For anybody. But we're saying if in your bylaw 750 00:56:18,785 --> 00:56:21,865 works, it's a requirement. It's. Something that has been through 751 00:56:21,865 --> 00:56:24,891 all. Your work, and I don't want to do a 752 00:56:24,891 --> 00:56:28,215 workaround on that. We're just saying. Typically. It's not something 753 00:56:28,215 --> 00:56:30,815 that I mentioned that's happened to other communities where it 754 00:56:30,815 --> 00:56:34,116 doesn't. Matter how. You're set up. It matters what product 755 00:56:34,116 --> 00:56:37,076 you're delivering to the community. But if your wording as 756 00:56:37,076 --> 00:56:40,483 such isn't to come back around to that. Then people 757 00:56:40,483 --> 00:56:42,603 go ahead and set themselves up a not for profit 758 00:56:42,603 --> 00:56:46,305 and do the same things. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. 759 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:56,749 Right. Thank you for the questions. Thank you. The next 760 00:56:56,749 --> 00:56:59,469 items on our agenda are public meetings, and we have 761 00:56:59,469 --> 00:57:03,919 two. The first one is for four elm street. And 762 00:57:03,919 --> 00:57:07,465 I have to read for each of them. A lengthy. 763 00:57:09,182 --> 00:57:11,812 Explanation of the process. So I'll start then with the 764 00:57:11,812 --> 00:57:14,532 first one for four elm street. This is owning bylaw. 765 00:57:14,532 --> 00:57:19,827 Amendment. So welcome. This is public planning meeting for a 766 00:57:19,827 --> 00:57:25,347 proposed zoning bylaw amendment for four elm street. No decision 767 00:57:25,347 --> 00:57:28,187 is going to be made this afternoon. Purpose of this 768 00:57:28,187 --> 00:57:31,947 meeting is to introduce and obtain public comments. On the 769 00:57:31,947 --> 00:57:36,387 proposed zoning bylaw amendment. The meeting will begin with presentations 770 00:57:36,387 --> 00:57:39,986 by staff and. The applicant. Members of the public will 771 00:57:39,986 --> 00:57:43,226 then be invited to offer their comments or questions regarding 772 00:57:43,226 --> 00:57:46,506 the proposal. Once the public portion of the meeting has 773 00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:49,906 been completed, no more public comments or questions. Will be 774 00:57:49,906 --> 00:57:53,026 allowed at today's meeting. I will then ask council members 775 00:57:53,026 --> 00:57:56,386 if they have any questions. Once all public can counsel, 776 00:57:56,386 --> 00:57:59,824 their questions and comments have been received. Staff will have 777 00:57:59,824 --> 00:58:04,624 an opportunity to respond or provide clarification if appropriate. All 778 00:58:04,624 --> 00:58:07,944 questions and comments specific to the purpose of the Sony 779 00:58:07,944 --> 00:58:10,984 Balla amendment will be addressed in a future staff report. 780 00:58:12,214 --> 00:58:14,174 It is very important that the town received the correct 781 00:58:14,174 --> 00:58:18,854 names, email addresses and mailing addresses, including postal code of 782 00:58:18,854 --> 00:58:22,507 individuals having an interest in this application. If you plan 783 00:58:22,507 --> 00:58:25,267 to speak to council at this meeting or if you 784 00:58:25,267 --> 00:58:28,307 want to be notified of any future council or committee 785 00:58:28,307 --> 00:58:33,486 meetings concerning the application, you must provide this information. Public 786 00:58:33,486 --> 00:58:36,486 comment and feedback on development proposals are important to the 787 00:58:36,486 --> 00:58:39,566 town of Collingwood and are a core part of a 788 00:58:39,566 --> 00:58:44,282 transparent and inclusive land use planning process. We encourage you 789 00:58:44,282 --> 00:58:48,002 to express comments verbally or in writing. However, please note 790 00:58:48,002 --> 00:58:50,642 that the rights of third parties to appeal zoning by 791 00:58:50,642 --> 00:58:54,202 law, amendment decisions to the Ontario Land Tribunal have been 792 00:58:54,202 --> 00:58:57,242 restricted under the Planning act. If you do not make 793 00:58:57,242 --> 00:59:00,482 a neural submission today or a written submission to council. 794 00:59:00,482 --> 00:59:03,242 Before the council decision, you may not be added as 795 00:59:03,242 --> 00:59:06,437 a party. To an appeal before the Ontario Land tribunal 796 00:59:06,437 --> 00:59:09,117 unless, in the opinion of the tribunal, there are reasonable 797 00:59:09,117 --> 00:59:12,560 grounds to do so. This meeting is being recorded and 798 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,760 streamed on the municipal YouTube channel and broadcast on Rogers 799 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,480 TV. Your name, address, comments and any other personal information 800 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,640 are being recorded. According to the Missile act and the 801 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,320 Municipal Freedom of information and protection of privacy act. The 802 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,600 minutes will be available to the general public. On the 803 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,659 town website. I will ask that planning services also confirm 804 00:59:32,659 --> 00:59:35,659 that notification to the public has been given as required. 805 00:59:35,659 --> 00:59:39,739 By the planning act within their presentation this afternoon. Again, 806 00:59:39,739 --> 00:59:41,939 I would like to remind everyone that no decision will 807 00:59:41,939 --> 00:59:44,419 be made today, and the zoning bylaw amendment will be 808 00:59:44,419 --> 00:59:48,459 considered by council on a future date. And now I'll 809 00:59:48,459 --> 00:59:52,339 turn the microphone over to housing development coordinator to Sousa. 810 00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:55,979 Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. And good afternoon, members 811 00:59:55,979 --> 00:59:59,539 of council staff and members of the public. My name 812 00:59:59,539 --> 01:00:02,019 is Claire de Souza, and I am the housing development 813 01:00:02,019 --> 01:00:05,139 coordinator for the town and one of the planners assigned 814 01:00:05,139 --> 01:00:09,171 this file. Erica Ro. Rose, community planner, is also here 815 01:00:09,171 --> 01:00:11,411 with us this afternoon as we are both working on 816 01:00:11,411 --> 01:00:14,940 this file. Together. Today's public meeting is legislated under the 817 01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:17,780 Planning act and is required as part of the public 818 01:00:17,780 --> 01:00:21,340 process. The purpose of today's meeting is to introduce an 819 01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:24,180 application that was received for a zoning by law amendment 820 01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:27,580 and to hear questions, comments and concerns to assist in 821 01:00:27,580 --> 01:00:32,570 future decision making. Next slide, please. Today's meeting will follow 822 01:00:32,570 --> 01:00:36,410 the town's standard public meeting format. Since Mayor Hamlin has 823 01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:39,290 already provided an introduction. The remainder of the meeting will 824 01:00:39,290 --> 01:00:42,610 consist of confirming the public notice, an overview of the 825 01:00:42,610 --> 01:00:46,050 application review process, an overview of the proposed zoning bylaw 826 01:00:46,050 --> 01:00:49,370 amendment, followed by a review of the proposal from the 827 01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:53,458 agent, and then. We'll be opening the floor to questions, 828 01:00:53,458 --> 01:00:56,738 comments and concerns at the end and address anything. We 829 01:00:56,738 --> 01:01:00,218 are able to today. Otherwise, anything that cannot be answered 830 01:01:00,218 --> 01:01:03,298 will be addressed in a future staff. Report, next slide, 831 01:01:03,298 --> 01:01:08,254 please. Notice of complete application and public meeting was circulated 832 01:01:08,254 --> 01:01:13,014 to internal and external agencies on November 19, 2025 and 833 01:01:13,014 --> 01:01:16,454 was also published in the Collingwood Today online newspaper on 834 01:01:16,454 --> 01:01:19,854 the same date. Additionally, as a courtesy. The notice was 835 01:01:19,854 --> 01:01:23,414 mailed to property owners and condo owners or condo corporations 836 01:01:23,414 --> 01:01:27,797 within 120 meters. Of the property. Next slide, please. This 837 01:01:27,797 --> 01:01:31,237 slide provides a general overview of the town's development review 838 01:01:31,237 --> 01:01:34,357 process. Everything in green has been completed to date, and 839 01:01:34,357 --> 01:01:36,717 the box outlined in red reflects where we are today. 840 01:01:38,196 --> 01:01:41,276 Next steps include a continued review of the application, including 841 01:01:41,276 --> 01:01:45,436 technical reports and receipt of public comments, providing comments to 842 01:01:45,436 --> 01:01:49,396 the applicant and then receiving any necessary modifications from the 843 01:01:49,396 --> 01:01:53,503 applicant. Once all outstanding matters have been addressed, staff will 844 01:01:53,503 --> 01:01:56,383 prepare a recommendation report for the committee of the whole 845 01:01:56,383 --> 01:01:58,983 and council, where a decision will be made on the 846 01:01:58,983 --> 01:02:03,269 application. Following council's decision. If approved, a notice of passing 847 01:02:03,269 --> 01:02:05,429 of the zoning bylaw amendment will be issued and a 848 01:02:05,429 --> 01:02:07,789 20 day appeal period will commence prior to being final. 849 01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,199 The zoning bylaw will not come into force and effect 850 01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,159 or, sorry, the zoning bylaw amendment. Will not come into 851 01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:17,639 force and effect until appeals impacting the 2024 official plan 852 01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:20,439 are dealt. With and the full official plan is in 853 01:02:20,439 --> 01:02:24,084 force. Next slide, please. Now we will get into some 854 01:02:24,084 --> 01:02:27,859 of the details of the application. The property subject to 855 01:02:27,859 --> 01:02:31,219 the proposed application is municipally addressed as four elm street, 856 01:02:31,219 --> 01:02:34,659 which is highlighted in red on the screen. The property 857 01:02:34,659 --> 01:02:38,179 is zero point 83 ha in area and currently contains 858 01:02:38,179 --> 01:02:41,899 a single detached dwelling with an internal additional residential unit, 859 01:02:41,899 --> 01:02:44,859 or ARU. To the north of the property, there is 860 01:02:44,859 --> 01:02:48,499 a mix of commercial and residential uses. Residential uses surround 861 01:02:48,499 --> 01:02:51,299 the property to the east, and commercial uses surround the 862 01:02:51,299 --> 01:02:54,219 property. To the south and west. The purpose of the. 863 01:02:54,582 --> 01:02:57,342 Proposed zoning bylaw amendment is to rezone the subject property 864 01:02:57,342 --> 01:03:01,262 from resort commercial c three zone to a residential second 865 01:03:01,262 --> 01:03:05,742 density exception zone to permit a residential building containing four 866 01:03:05,742 --> 01:03:09,698 dwelling units. The development is proposed to be constructed in 867 01:03:09,698 --> 01:03:13,658 two phases, and the phased construction approach impacts the site 868 01:03:13,658 --> 01:03:18,098 specific exceptions being requested. Phase one will include the construction 869 01:03:18,098 --> 01:03:21,978 of a detached Aru in the rear. Yard. And phase 870 01:03:21,978 --> 01:03:25,098 two will involve the demolition of the existing single detached 871 01:03:25,098 --> 01:03:27,418 dwelling in the front yard. And the construction of a. 872 01:03:28,151 --> 01:03:31,511 Residential building containing two dwelling units and then connecting the 873 01:03:31,511 --> 01:03:35,151 two buildings from phase one and two via a common 874 01:03:35,151 --> 01:03:39,071 corridor, creating one building with four dwelling units. So once 875 01:03:39,071 --> 01:03:41,551 phase one is completed, the structure in the rear yard 876 01:03:41,551 --> 01:03:45,231 will be temporarily considered a detached Aru and a site 877 01:03:45,231 --> 01:03:48,957 specific provision for increased maximum height. Will address a zoning 878 01:03:48,957 --> 01:03:52,437 conformity matter at the end of phase two, the final 879 01:03:52,437 --> 01:03:55,077 development on site. Will be one building with four dwelling 880 01:03:55,077 --> 01:03:59,564 units. Next slide, please. This slide shows the site plan 881 01:03:59,564 --> 01:04:02,724 for the proposed development in its final stage. As you 882 01:04:02,724 --> 01:04:04,644 can see, here on the slide. The result will be 883 01:04:04,644 --> 01:04:07,324 a two story building with four units, two in the 884 01:04:07,324 --> 01:04:10,404 rear and two in the front, connected by a corridor. 885 01:04:10,404 --> 01:04:12,964 Four parking spaces will be provided in the front yard 886 01:04:12,964 --> 01:04:16,204 and a pathway will connect residents from the parking area 887 01:04:16,204 --> 01:04:21,016 to the building. Next slide, please. Under the town's 2024 888 01:04:21,016 --> 01:04:25,973 official plan, the property is designated existing neighborhood. The existing 889 01:04:25,973 --> 01:04:31,173 neighborhood designation permits residential units and low rise and mid 890 01:04:31,173 --> 01:04:36,253 rise buildings, including additional residential units the proposed development meets 891 01:04:36,253 --> 01:04:39,773 the general purpose and intent of the existing neighborhood designation 892 01:04:39,773 --> 01:04:44,712 and low rise built form policies. The existing neighborhood designation 893 01:04:44,712 --> 01:04:47,352 is under appeal, and as such, the proposed zoning bylaw 894 01:04:47,352 --> 01:04:49,472 amendment will not come into force and effect until the 895 01:04:49,472 --> 01:04:52,912 appeals of the 2020 official plan. 2024 official plan are 896 01:04:52,912 --> 01:04:57,364 dealt with. Next slide, please. The subject property is currently 897 01:04:57,364 --> 01:05:01,204 zoned resort commercial, or c three, the proposed zoning bylaw 898 01:05:01,204 --> 01:05:04,444 amendment seeks to rezone the subject property to a residential 899 01:05:04,444 --> 01:05:08,364 second density exception zone to bring the property in line 900 01:05:08,364 --> 01:05:12,564 with the official plan designation and to facilitate the proposal. 901 01:05:12,564 --> 01:05:16,484 Next slide, please. This slide highlights the site specific exceptions 902 01:05:16,484 --> 01:05:22,038 being requested in the residential second density exception zone. The 903 01:05:22,038 --> 01:05:26,158 R two exception zone proposes to establish site specific provisions 904 01:05:26,158 --> 01:05:30,118 for a detached, additional residential unit, including an increased maximum 905 01:05:30,118 --> 01:05:35,678 height of 8.48 meters, where 7.5 meters is permitted. And 906 01:05:35,678 --> 01:05:37,678 this is an increase of just under a meter, so 907 01:05:37,678 --> 01:05:41,054 zero point 98 meters. This exception is being sought as 908 01:05:41,054 --> 01:05:44,054 the proposed development is being constructed in two phases. As 909 01:05:44,054 --> 01:05:47,494 I mentioned, once the first phase is completed and before 910 01:05:47,494 --> 01:05:50,454 the second phase begins, the structure will be considered a 911 01:05:50,454 --> 01:05:54,174 detached ARU once both phases are completed, the development is 912 01:05:54,174 --> 01:05:56,894 finished the building will be one building with four units. 913 01:05:57,995 --> 01:06:00,435 Aside from these exceptions, all other provisions of the zoning 914 01:06:00,435 --> 01:06:06,086 bylaw would apply. Next slide, please. Planning services circulated the 915 01:06:06,086 --> 01:06:09,486 application for technical review on November 19, and since then 916 01:06:09,486 --> 01:06:12,646 we have received standard public comments or, sorry, standard comments 917 01:06:12,646 --> 01:06:16,326 from Enbridge and Rogers, as well as comments from the 918 01:06:16,326 --> 01:06:20,646 town's. Parks, recreation and culture department and building services. Next 919 01:06:20,646 --> 01:06:23,981 slide, please. We have not received any public comments to 920 01:06:23,981 --> 01:06:28,101 date. However, today's meeting is an opportunity to formally hear 921 01:06:28,101 --> 01:06:32,574 from the public. Next slide, please. Following this afternoon's public 922 01:06:32,574 --> 01:06:36,374 meeting. Next steps include a review and consideration of comments 923 01:06:36,374 --> 01:06:41,294 received from today's meeting completion of a technical review, receiving 924 01:06:41,294 --> 01:06:43,854 results from peer reviews, and providing the proponent with all 925 01:06:43,854 --> 01:06:48,614 comments received. Refining the proposed zoning bylaw amendment as necessary. 926 01:06:48,614 --> 01:06:51,933 Preparing a staff report with recommendations to the comm. Committee 927 01:06:51,933 --> 01:06:54,213 of the whole and council council would then render a 928 01:06:54,213 --> 01:06:57,493 decision to approve or refuse the zoning bylaw amendment and 929 01:06:57,493 --> 01:07:00,773 a notice of decision would be circulated to all individuals 930 01:07:00,773 --> 01:07:04,173 and organizations who formally request a notice and would be 931 01:07:04,173 --> 01:07:09,945 published in Collingwood Today Online's newspaper. If the proposed ZBA 932 01:07:09,945 --> 01:07:12,425 is approved, it would not come into force and effect 933 01:07:12,425 --> 01:07:16,465 until the existing neighborhood policies of the 2024 official plan 934 01:07:16,465 --> 01:07:20,334 are in full force in effect. Next slide, please. Should 935 01:07:20,334 --> 01:07:23,574 anyone wish to submit comments or concerns following this afternoon's 936 01:07:23,574 --> 01:07:26,694 meeting, you are welcome to email myself Claire de Sousa, 937 01:07:26,694 --> 01:07:30,694 housing development coordinator at C. De Sousa at Collingwood, CA 938 01:07:30,694 --> 01:07:36,193 or community. Planner Erica Rose at Eros at Collingwood, Ca. 939 01:07:36,193 --> 01:07:39,673 Or you can submit written correspondence to town hall members 940 01:07:39,673 --> 01:07:42,433 of the public can provide written comments up until council 941 01:07:42,433 --> 01:07:45,833 renders a decision. Verbal comments will only be accepted during 942 01:07:45,833 --> 01:07:47,953 a public meeting or at a future committee of the 943 01:07:47,953 --> 01:07:51,113 whole meeting for anyone. Wishing to provide comments today, we 944 01:07:51,113 --> 01:07:53,171 ask that you please add your name to the. Sign 945 01:07:53,171 --> 01:07:56,731 in sheet available at the front here. Next slide, please. 946 01:07:58,139 --> 01:08:00,939 To be notified of future agendas or meetings related to 947 01:08:00,939 --> 01:08:04,979 these applications. You can view them online on our website. 948 01:08:04,979 --> 01:08:07,539 If you would like to receive notice of future meetings 949 01:08:07,539 --> 01:08:10,819 or a decision, please provide your contact details today at 950 01:08:10,819 --> 01:08:13,699 the sign in sheet or email me and request to 951 01:08:13,699 --> 01:08:17,419 be circulated in the future. That concludes my presentation. And 952 01:08:17,419 --> 01:08:19,712 I'll turn. The floor back to the chair, noting that 953 01:08:19,712 --> 01:08:23,607 the applicant's agent is here today for a presentation. Thank 954 01:08:23,607 --> 01:08:29,103 you very much. Would the applicants. Agent. Like to come 955 01:08:29,103 --> 01:08:33,265 forward. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Miriam Vasny. 956 01:08:33,265 --> 01:08:39,082 I'm with plan Mos associates and. We're the agent for 957 01:08:39,082 --> 01:08:44,282 the applicant. Claire did a very comprehensive. Slideshow, so I 958 01:08:44,282 --> 01:08:47,624 did prepare in advance. It consists basically up to two 959 01:08:47,624 --> 01:08:50,024 slides. So if we could have the first slide, this 960 01:08:50,024 --> 01:08:54,709 next slide. Up, please. So this is showing the site 961 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:57,469 plan, existing site plan, and also the existing dwelling. That's 962 01:08:57,469 --> 01:09:01,149 on the property currently, and on the main floor is 963 01:09:01,149 --> 01:09:04,989 the principal residence. And the second floor is an apartment. 964 01:09:04,989 --> 01:09:11,160 Next slide, please. As Claire showed you. This is the 965 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:16,777 proposed site plan. With the two buildings now connected. The 966 01:09:16,777 --> 01:09:22,097 proposed development. Complies with all the r two zoning provisions 967 01:09:22,097 --> 01:09:26,706 as well as your Aru provision. For it doesn't comply 968 01:09:26,706 --> 01:09:31,146 with the ARU provision for a detached ARU, and we 969 01:09:31,146 --> 01:09:34,226 are asking for the exception for that once the building 970 01:09:34,226 --> 01:09:37,946 is complete. Actually, it comes in under what? Is permitted 971 01:09:37,946 --> 01:09:40,106 under the r two zone, which is 12 meters height. 972 01:09:40,106 --> 01:09:44,730 We will be still at the 8.48. And that is 973 01:09:44,730 --> 01:09:46,770 the presentation. I have nothing else to add, unless you've 974 01:09:46,770 --> 01:09:51,076 got some questions. Any questions of the applicant? No, I 975 01:09:51,076 --> 01:09:54,636 think we're good. Thank you. Good. Thank you. Would any 976 01:09:54,636 --> 01:09:57,636 members of the public like to address council about this 977 01:09:57,636 --> 01:10:02,514 application? Claire Thomas. Was there anyone online who would like 978 01:10:02,514 --> 01:10:06,798 to address council? Thank you. We do have a few 979 01:10:06,798 --> 01:10:09,918 people online if you wish to address council regarding this 980 01:10:09,918 --> 01:10:11,838 application. Please press the raise your hand feature at the 981 01:10:11,838 --> 01:10:21,657 bottom of your screen. Okay, so I'll turn this over 982 01:10:21,657 --> 01:10:24,657 now to council. Would anyone on council have any questions? 983 01:10:24,657 --> 01:10:32,562 Or comments deputy mayor. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. Through you 984 01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:41,212 to planner or coordinator. If I could. Sensitive to the 985 01:10:41,212 --> 01:10:48,706 fact that an appeal. To the olt. Could. Have information 986 01:10:48,706 --> 01:10:51,346 that can't be shared, but I just find a little 987 01:10:51,346 --> 01:10:52,906 unusual. So I was hoping to get a little more 988 01:10:52,906 --> 01:10:56,346 clarification of the fact that in this particular case, there 989 01:10:56,346 --> 01:11:00,558 is an appeal going on? We're going to proceed as 990 01:11:00,558 --> 01:11:03,726 we would normally. And get it to the stage that 991 01:11:03,726 --> 01:11:07,521 it has to be held. Until it's determined about the 992 01:11:07,521 --> 01:11:13,143 appeal. So maybe just the clarification. It seems to me. 993 01:11:14,005 --> 01:11:17,365 Like the outcome of the appeal could impact it, but 994 01:11:17,365 --> 01:11:19,685 I'm sure staff have considered that. So could you give 995 01:11:19,685 --> 01:11:22,605 a little more detail in that regard? Yeah, go ahead. 996 01:11:22,605 --> 01:11:24,685 Thank you. And I might pass this over to director 997 01:11:24,685 --> 01:11:29,120 Valentine, who's more involved in the Olt appeal process. Thank 998 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,240 you. And through you chair, the planning act does allow 999 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,560 us to pass zoning bylaws. Which will only come into 1000 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,240 force and effect once the official plan comes into force 1001 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,680 and effect. So. If there's a left turn during one 1002 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,880 of the appeals that could affect this application any zoning 1003 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,680 bylaw amendment passed by council would not come into force. 1004 01:11:49,301 --> 01:11:51,181 In effect, if it didn't align with the new official 1005 01:11:51,181 --> 01:11:55,858 plan. So we're permitted as a municipality to carry on 1006 01:11:55,858 --> 01:11:58,658 with our zoning bylaw amendments, assuming a positive result from 1007 01:11:58,658 --> 01:12:02,530 the appeals, and if. There is a difference between what 1008 01:12:02,530 --> 01:12:05,290 we expect and the results of the appeals. Then those 1009 01:12:05,290 --> 01:12:07,970 zoning bylaws would not come into force and effect and 1010 01:12:07,970 --> 01:12:12,251 would have to be revisited. Thank you. Any other questions, 1011 01:12:12,251 --> 01:12:17,505 Councilor Dougherty? Thank you, mayor. Actually, I have a couple 1012 01:12:17,505 --> 01:12:22,535 of questions. And the first would be. Through you to 1013 01:12:22,535 --> 01:12:30,807 coordinator D'Souza. Because the official plan is under appeal now, 1014 01:12:30,807 --> 01:12:36,556 does it mean that the proponent can't go? Forward. With 1015 01:12:36,556 --> 01:12:40,134 this if we approve the zoning bylaw. They still can't 1016 01:12:40,134 --> 01:12:44,842 move forward. With their project. Go ahead. Through the chair 1017 01:12:44,842 --> 01:12:48,911 to the counselor. Yes, that's correct. The zoning bylaw amendment 1018 01:12:48,911 --> 01:12:52,111 wouldn't be in full force in effect until the appeals 1019 01:12:52,111 --> 01:12:56,687 have been dealt with to the official plan. The zoning 1020 01:12:56,687 --> 01:12:59,007 bylaw would only come into force and effect once that's 1021 01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:03,902 dealt with and then the applicant could then pursue. Building 1022 01:13:03,902 --> 01:13:08,593 permits and everything that follows. Okay. Thank you. And then 1023 01:13:08,593 --> 01:13:12,893 just to follow up. Can you confirm these are all 1024 01:13:12,893 --> 01:13:18,858 rentals? That we anticipate. Yes. Grant. Through the chair. Yes. 1025 01:13:18,858 --> 01:13:21,938 As far as I know, they will. All be rental 1026 01:13:21,938 --> 01:13:23,818 housing, which is part of the reason that I've been 1027 01:13:23,818 --> 01:13:27,498 on this file. As sort of the concierge role to 1028 01:13:27,498 --> 01:13:30,738 encourage more affordable and purpose built rentals in our community. 1029 01:13:32,184 --> 01:13:36,224 Terrific. And speaking as a member of the Affordable Housing 1030 01:13:36,224 --> 01:13:41,083 Task force, this is just exactly the kind of. Infill 1031 01:13:41,083 --> 01:13:45,956 project. That we look for and is going to benefit 1032 01:13:45,956 --> 01:13:51,316 our community greatly, so hopefully those appeals are resolved. Quickly 1033 01:13:51,316 --> 01:13:55,689 so our proponent can move forward. Thank you. Any other 1034 01:13:55,689 --> 01:13:58,329 questions or comments? I think you're good. Thank you very 1035 01:13:58,329 --> 01:14:03,062 much. Thank you. So that ends the public meeting on 1036 01:14:03,062 --> 01:14:08,833 four Elm Street. Okay. 1037 01:14:12,826 --> 01:14:16,466 Sadly, I have to read the same lengthy sadly for 1038 01:14:16,466 --> 01:14:21,158 you, I don't mind reading the same lengthy. Public meeting 1039 01:14:21,158 --> 01:14:24,038 introduction. But this time it's for the next public meeting, 1040 01:14:24,038 --> 01:14:29,497 for 401 Ragland. Street. So welcome to the public meeting 1041 01:14:29,497 --> 01:14:33,017 for 401 Ragland street. This property is located on the 1042 01:14:33,017 --> 01:14:35,617 east side of Ragland and the south side of Ron 1043 01:14:35,617 --> 01:14:39,337 Emo Road. No decision will be made. This afternoon. The 1044 01:14:39,337 --> 01:14:42,657 purpose of this meeting is to introduce and obtain public 1045 01:14:42,657 --> 01:14:46,577 comments on the proposed zoning bylaw amendment. The meeting will 1046 01:14:46,577 --> 01:14:49,794 begin with present. Presentations by staff and the applicant. Members 1047 01:14:49,794 --> 01:14:52,114 of the public will then be invited to offer their 1048 01:14:52,114 --> 01:14:56,456 comments. Or questions regarding the proposal. Once the public portion 1049 01:14:56,456 --> 01:14:59,496 of the meeting has been completed, no more public comments 1050 01:14:59,496 --> 01:15:02,736 or questions will be allowed at today's meeting. I will 1051 01:15:02,736 --> 01:15:05,576 then ask council members if they have any questions once. 1052 01:15:05,576 --> 01:15:09,656 All public and councilor. Questions and comments have been received. 1053 01:15:09,656 --> 01:15:13,336 Staff will have an opportunity to respond. Or provide clarification 1054 01:15:13,336 --> 01:15:17,282 if appropriate. All questions. And comments specific to the purpose 1055 01:15:17,282 --> 01:15:19,642 of the zoning bylaw amendment will be addressed in a 1056 01:15:19,642 --> 01:15:23,184 future staff report. It is very important that the town 1057 01:15:23,184 --> 01:15:27,904 received the correct names. Email addresses and mailing addresses include 1058 01:15:27,904 --> 01:15:32,104 including postal code of individuals having an interest in this 1059 01:15:32,104 --> 01:15:34,944 application. If you plan to speak to council at this 1060 01:15:34,944 --> 01:15:37,624 meeting or if you want to be notified of any 1061 01:15:37,624 --> 01:15:41,384 future council or committee meetings concerning the application being consider. 1062 01:15:41,197 --> 01:15:46,238 Considered, you must provide this information. Public comment and feedback 1063 01:15:46,238 --> 01:15:49,598 on development proposals are important to the town of Collingwood 1064 01:15:49,598 --> 01:15:52,558 and are a core part of a transparent and inclusive 1065 01:15:52,558 --> 01:15:56,989 land use planning process. We encourage you to express comments 1066 01:15:56,989 --> 01:16:00,069 verbally or in writing. However, please note that the rights 1067 01:16:00,069 --> 01:16:04,229 of third parties to appeal zoning bylaw amendment. Decisions to 1068 01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:07,749 the Ontario Land Tribunal have been restricted under the Planning 1069 01:16:07,749 --> 01:16:10,789 act. If you do not make a moral submission today 1070 01:16:10,789 --> 01:16:14,749 or written submission to council before the council decision, you 1071 01:16:14,749 --> 01:16:17,353 may not be. Added to a party as a party 1072 01:16:17,353 --> 01:16:20,833 to an appeal before the Ontario Land Tribunal unless in 1073 01:16:20,833 --> 01:16:23,593 the opinion of the tribunal, there are reasonable grounds to 1074 01:16:23,593 --> 01:16:27,697 do so. This meeting is being recorded and streamed on 1075 01:16:27,697 --> 01:16:31,537 the municipal YouTube channel and broadcast on Rogers TV. Your 1076 01:16:31,537 --> 01:16:35,624 name, address, comments and any other personal information. Are being 1077 01:16:35,624 --> 01:16:38,984 recorded. According to the Municipal act and the freedom municipal 1078 01:16:38,984 --> 01:16:42,624 freedom of information and protection of privacy act, the minutes 1079 01:16:42,624 --> 01:16:44,864 will be available to the general public on the town's 1080 01:16:44,864 --> 01:16:49,277 website. I will ask the planning services also confirm that 1081 01:16:49,277 --> 01:16:52,077 notification to the public has been given as required. By 1082 01:16:52,077 --> 01:16:56,281 the planning act within their presentation this afternoon. Again, I 1083 01:16:56,281 --> 01:16:58,561 would like to remind everyone that no decision will be 1084 01:16:58,561 --> 01:17:02,241 made today and the zoning bylaw amendment will be considered 1085 01:17:02,241 --> 01:17:05,121 by council on a future date, and I will now 1086 01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:09,681 turn it over. To community planner Rose. Welcome. Thank you, 1087 01:17:09,681 --> 01:17:13,881 Mayor Hamlin. And good afternoon. Council staff and members of 1088 01:17:13,881 --> 01:17:16,694 the public. My name is Erica Rose. And I'm the 1089 01:17:16,694 --> 01:17:20,414 community planner assigned to the file for 401 Regglin street 1090 01:17:20,414 --> 01:17:23,294 today's. Public meeting is legislated under the Planning act and 1091 01:17:23,294 --> 01:17:26,374 is required as part of the public process. The purpose 1092 01:17:26,374 --> 01:17:29,054 of today's meeting is to introduce an application that has 1093 01:17:29,054 --> 01:17:32,054 been received for a zoning bylaw amendment and to hear 1094 01:17:32,054 --> 01:17:35,334 questions, comments, and concerns to assist in future decision making. 1095 01:17:36,602 --> 01:17:40,540 Next slide, please. Today's meeting will follow the town standard 1096 01:17:40,540 --> 01:17:44,340 public meeting format, since Mayor Hamlin has already provided an 1097 01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:47,780 introduction. The remainder of the meeting will consist of confirming 1098 01:17:47,780 --> 01:17:52,300 the public notice, an overview of the application review process, 1099 01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:55,620 a summary of the proposed zoning bylaw amendment, followed by 1100 01:17:55,620 --> 01:17:58,990 a review of the proposal from the applicant. And then 1101 01:17:58,990 --> 01:18:01,830 we'll open the floor to questions, comments and concerns at 1102 01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:04,310 the end and address anything that we're able to today. 1103 01:18:05,874 --> 01:18:08,394 Alternatively, anything that cannot be answered will be addressed in 1104 01:18:08,394 --> 01:18:13,924 a future recommendation report to council. Next slide. Please. In 1105 01:18:13,924 --> 01:18:17,004 accordance with the Planning Act, a notice of complete application 1106 01:18:17,004 --> 01:18:20,884 and public meeting was circulated to internal and external agencies 1107 01:18:20,884 --> 01:18:23,844 on November 19, and it was also published in the 1108 01:18:23,844 --> 01:18:27,964 Collingwood Today online newspaper that same date. Additionally, as a 1109 01:18:27,964 --> 01:18:31,644 courtesy, the notice was mailed to property owners within 120 1110 01:18:31,644 --> 01:18:36,635 meters of the subject property. Next slide, please. This slide 1111 01:18:36,635 --> 01:18:39,915 provides a general overview of the town's development review process. 1112 01:18:41,911 --> 01:18:43,991 Everything in green has been completed to date. In the 1113 01:18:43,991 --> 01:18:46,591 box outlined in red reflects where we are. Today at 1114 01:18:46,591 --> 01:18:50,111 the public meeting. Next steps include a continued review of 1115 01:18:50,111 --> 01:18:54,231 the application, including technical reports and receipt of public comments. 1116 01:18:55,756 --> 01:18:58,876 Providing comments to the applicant and then receiving any necessary 1117 01:18:58,876 --> 01:19:03,236 modifications to the proposal once all outstanding matters have been 1118 01:19:03,236 --> 01:19:06,475 addressed. Staff will prepare a recommendation report for the committee 1119 01:19:06,475 --> 01:19:09,195 of the whole and council where a decision will be 1120 01:19:09,195 --> 01:19:13,355 made on the application. Following council's decision, a notice of 1121 01:19:13,355 --> 01:19:16,395 passing will be issued. If the zoning bylaw amendment is 1122 01:19:16,395 --> 01:19:20,393 approved and a 20 day appeal period will commence. After 1123 01:19:20,393 --> 01:19:23,518 prior to a decision being final. If there are no 1124 01:19:23,518 --> 01:19:26,798 appeals, the bylaw will come into force and effect once 1125 01:19:26,798 --> 01:19:30,718 the applicable policies under the town's 2024 official plan are 1126 01:19:30,718 --> 01:19:35,763 no longer under appeal. Next slide, please. The subject property 1127 01:19:35,763 --> 01:19:39,323 is municipally addressed as 401 Ryglin street, which is highlighted 1128 01:19:39,323 --> 01:19:43,483 in red. On the screen. The property is approximately 8.56 1129 01:19:43,483 --> 01:19:47,563 ha in area. Existing uses on the subject property include 1130 01:19:47,563 --> 01:19:50,883 the All Saints Anglican Church cemetery on the west, and 1131 01:19:50,883 --> 01:19:53,283 the balance of the property is vacant on the east. 1132 01:19:55,366 --> 01:19:58,246 Surrounding uses primarily include a mix of industrial uses to 1133 01:19:58,246 --> 01:20:02,522 the north and east, vacant lands to the south. And 1134 01:20:02,522 --> 01:20:05,462 community service uses to the west. The purpose of the 1135 01:20:05,462 --> 01:20:11,422 proposed zoning bylaw amendment is to rezone approximately 5.8 subject 1136 01:20:11,422 --> 01:20:16,142 property from community services to an industrial park exception zone. 1137 01:20:16,142 --> 01:20:19,582 The amendment is intended to facilitate a consent application that 1138 01:20:19,582 --> 01:20:22,342 would sever the subject portion of the land's and enable 1139 01:20:22,342 --> 01:20:26,391 future development of employment uses. The effect of the amendment 1140 01:20:26,391 --> 01:20:30,095 will be further discussed later in this presentation. I will 1141 01:20:30,095 --> 01:20:32,095 note there has been a slight change to the size 1142 01:20:32,095 --> 01:20:35,295 of the area that is proposed. For rezoning. The notice 1143 01:20:35,295 --> 01:20:39,695 states that the area is approximately 5.26 ha in size. 1144 01:20:39,695 --> 01:20:45,079 However, this has been corrected to 5.8 ha. The applicant's 1145 01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:48,559 agent, Colin Travis. From Travis and associates, as well as 1146 01:20:48,559 --> 01:20:51,839 John Kirby, on behalf of the All Saints Anglican Church 1147 01:20:51,839 --> 01:20:54,679 are also in attendance this afternoon and will be speaking 1148 01:20:54,679 --> 01:20:59,892 on the application following this presentation. Next slide, please. This 1149 01:20:59,892 --> 01:21:02,772 slide shows the proposed severance of the subject property, and 1150 01:21:02,772 --> 01:21:06,492 it identifies the area that is proposed for rezoning. The 1151 01:21:06,492 --> 01:21:09,612 area highlighted in green on the left hand side contains 1152 01:21:09,612 --> 01:21:13,692 the all Saints Cemetery, which is appropriately zoned and not 1153 01:21:13,692 --> 01:21:17,212 subject to the proposal. However, the area that's highlighted in 1154 01:21:17,212 --> 01:21:20,589 red on the right hand side represents. The portion of 1155 01:21:20,589 --> 01:21:24,629 the property that is being considered for rezoning the applicant's 1156 01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:27,309 intent. Is to sever and sell that portion of the 1157 01:21:27,309 --> 01:21:32,031 site. To enable future development of employment uses in accordance 1158 01:21:32,031 --> 01:21:35,151 with the property's land use designation under the town's new 1159 01:21:35,151 --> 01:21:39,271 official plan. For clarity, no development is being proposed at 1160 01:21:39,271 --> 01:21:42,631 this time, and the zoning bylaw amendment would simply bring 1161 01:21:42,631 --> 01:21:45,991 the permitted uses on the subject property into conformity. With 1162 01:21:45,991 --> 01:21:51,053 the applicable land use designation. A consent application is being 1163 01:21:51,053 --> 01:21:54,733 processed concurrently with the proposed zoning bylaw amendment and one 1164 01:21:54,733 --> 01:21:57,973 of the recommended conditions of consent is the approval of 1165 01:21:57,973 --> 01:22:01,813 the proposed zoning bylaw amendment, subject to it being in 1166 01:22:01,813 --> 01:22:04,813 full force, in effect, with no appeals. Next slide, please. 1167 01:22:06,348 --> 01:22:09,868 Under the town's 2024 official plan, the property is split 1168 01:22:09,868 --> 01:22:13,988 designated parks and open space and general employment. The parks 1169 01:22:13,988 --> 01:22:16,868 and open space designation applies to the portion of the 1170 01:22:16,868 --> 01:22:20,028 site where the cemetery is located, which is a permitted 1171 01:22:20,028 --> 01:22:24,551 use. And the general employment designation applies to the balance 1172 01:22:24,551 --> 01:22:27,751 of the property, which is currently vacant and considered surplus 1173 01:22:27,751 --> 01:22:31,911 to the cemetery's long term needs. The general employment designation 1174 01:22:31,911 --> 01:22:34,791 is currently under appeal, so. In order for the zoning 1175 01:22:34,791 --> 01:22:39,214 bylaw amendment to come into effect. That designation would have 1176 01:22:39,214 --> 01:22:42,774 to no longer be subject to appeals. Next slide, please. 1177 01:22:44,765 --> 01:22:48,965 The subject property is entirely zoned community services. The proposed 1178 01:22:48,965 --> 01:22:53,885 zoning bylaw Amendment seeks to rezone 5.8 eastern portion of 1179 01:22:53,885 --> 01:22:58,005 the site to an industrial park exception zone to facilitate 1180 01:22:58,005 --> 01:23:01,005 a consent application that would sever the vacant area of 1181 01:23:01,005 --> 01:23:06,079 the property and enable future development uses for. Employment. Next 1182 01:23:06,079 --> 01:23:10,321 slide, please. This slide highlights the site specific exceptions that 1183 01:23:10,321 --> 01:23:14,161 are being requested in the industrial park exception zone. The 1184 01:23:14,161 --> 01:23:16,561 effect of the rezoning is to permit uses that are 1185 01:23:16,561 --> 01:23:21,161 consistent with the general employment designation. Due to recent legislation 1186 01:23:21,161 --> 01:23:26,121 and policy changes at the provincial level, standalone, commercial, institutional, 1187 01:23:26,121 --> 01:23:29,804 and public use. Uses are no longer permitted in employment 1188 01:23:29,804 --> 01:23:35,480 areas. Therefore, The industrial park exception zone proposes to prohibit 1189 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:38,520 the list of uses that are identified on the screen. 1190 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,200 However, the balance of the uses in the parent industrial 1191 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,005 park zone would be permitted. Staff are currently reviewing the 1192 01:23:45,005 --> 01:23:48,205 list of prohibited uses that are being proposed through this 1193 01:23:48,205 --> 01:23:50,765 amendment, and we note that it may be further refined 1194 01:23:50,765 --> 01:23:54,605 as we continue our technical review of the proposal. Any 1195 01:23:54,605 --> 01:23:57,005 changes? To this list will be further discussed in a 1196 01:23:57,005 --> 01:24:03,040 future recommendation report to council. Next slide, please. Planning services 1197 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:08,120 circulated the application for technical review on November 10, 2025. 1198 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,040 Since then, we have received standard comments from Enbridge, Epcore 1199 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,299 and the town's development engineering department. With no concerns on 1200 01:24:16,299 --> 01:24:21,048 the proposed rezoning. Next slide, please. Today. No comments have 1201 01:24:21,048 --> 01:24:24,728 been received from the public on this application. This meeting 1202 01:24:24,728 --> 01:24:27,368 is an opportunity to formally hear from the public, and 1203 01:24:27,368 --> 01:24:30,208 I would encourage anyone to provide comments that you may 1204 01:24:30,208 --> 01:24:33,857 have at the end of this presentation. Next slide, please. 1205 01:24:35,315 --> 01:24:38,715 Following this afternoon's public meeting. Next steps include a review 1206 01:24:38,715 --> 01:24:43,155 and consideration of comments received from today's meeting, completion of 1207 01:24:43,155 --> 01:24:47,395 technical review and providing the proponent with all comments received. 1208 01:24:47,395 --> 01:24:52,235 Refining the proposed zoning bylaw amendment as necessary preparation of 1209 01:24:52,235 --> 01:24:56,629 a staff report with recommendations to committee. Of the Holing 1210 01:24:56,629 --> 01:25:00,058 Council. Council would then render a decision to approve or 1211 01:25:00,058 --> 01:25:03,138 refuse the zoning bylaw amendment and a notice of decision 1212 01:25:03,138 --> 01:25:07,298 would be circulated to all individuals and organizations who formally 1213 01:25:07,298 --> 01:25:10,298 requested notice, and it would also be published in the 1214 01:25:10,298 --> 01:25:15,378 Collingwood Today online newspaper. And finally, the associated consent application 1215 01:25:15,378 --> 01:25:18,278 will be finalized. Subject to this zoning byl. Bylaw amendment 1216 01:25:18,278 --> 01:25:23,703 being approved with no appeals. Next slide, please. Should anyone 1217 01:25:23,703 --> 01:25:27,703 wish to submit comments or concerns following this afternoon's meeting, 1218 01:25:27,703 --> 01:25:31,783 you're welcome. To email myself, Erica Rose, community planner at 1219 01:25:31,783 --> 01:25:35,823 Eros at Collingwood, Ca. Or you can submit written correspondence 1220 01:25:35,823 --> 01:25:39,223 to Town hall. Members of the public can provide written 1221 01:25:39,223 --> 01:25:43,681 comments up until council renders a decision ver. Verbal comments 1222 01:25:43,681 --> 01:25:45,921 will only be accepted during a public meeting or at 1223 01:25:45,921 --> 01:25:48,841 a feature committee of the whole meeting. Next slide, please. 1224 01:25:49,931 --> 01:25:52,851 To be notified of future agendas or meetings related to 1225 01:25:52,851 --> 01:25:56,091 this application. You can view them on our website. If 1226 01:25:56,091 --> 01:25:58,451 you would like to receive notice of future meetings or 1227 01:25:58,451 --> 01:26:02,171 decision, please provide your contact details today at the sign 1228 01:26:02,171 --> 01:26:05,531 in sheet that's located here at the front. And you 1229 01:26:05,531 --> 01:26:08,651 can request to be circulated in the future as well 1230 01:26:08,651 --> 01:26:13,106 that. Concludes my presentation for today, and my understanding is 1231 01:26:13,106 --> 01:26:16,546 that the applicant has a presentation following this. Thank you. 1232 01:26:16,546 --> 01:26:24,431 Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Travis. 1233 01:26:30,222 --> 01:26:32,382 Good afternoon, Madam mayor, members of council. It's nice to 1234 01:26:32,382 --> 01:26:37,787 see you all again. As with the previous presentation, I 1235 01:26:37,787 --> 01:26:41,627 can't provide anything more. Planning staff provided a very comprehensive 1236 01:26:41,627 --> 01:26:45,234 presentation. Shows the outline of the lens that we're seeking 1237 01:26:45,234 --> 01:26:52,041 rezoning. And the nature of that rezoning. Planner Erica Rose 1238 01:26:52,041 --> 01:26:55,081 identified the existing official plan, the one that was approved. 1239 01:26:58,408 --> 01:27:02,528 In late last year and allowed to designate industrial we 1240 01:27:02,528 --> 01:27:05,168 know that the official plan has to be that part 1241 01:27:05,168 --> 01:27:07,888 of the official plan and some of the policies relating 1242 01:27:07,888 --> 01:27:11,168 to the industrial need to be finally approved, and that, 1243 01:27:11,168 --> 01:27:16,632 as with the previous. Application. We would be basically waiting 1244 01:27:16,632 --> 01:27:20,112 for that to be resolved before Olt. In the meantime, 1245 01:27:20,112 --> 01:27:23,996 we have this public meeting. And again, I don't think 1246 01:27:23,996 --> 01:27:26,476 there are any serious technical issues that have been raised 1247 01:27:26,476 --> 01:27:31,433 with this application. If there are planning or planning consultant 1248 01:27:31,433 --> 01:27:33,593 related questions of council, I'd be more than happy. To 1249 01:27:33,593 --> 01:27:37,862 try to answer them. And in the meantime, I have 1250 01:27:37,862 --> 01:27:42,097 with me. Michael Peterson from the church and John Kirby. 1251 01:27:42,097 --> 01:27:45,576 And I think Michael may have a few words. For 1252 01:27:45,576 --> 01:27:49,485 council. To further explain the nature of the other reason 1253 01:27:49,485 --> 01:27:53,867 why we're seeking this rezoning. And the severance that will 1254 01:27:53,867 --> 01:28:03,743 be heard on Wednesday. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Welcome. 1255 01:28:03,743 --> 01:28:05,783 Thank you. Madam Mayor, members of council, my name is 1256 01:28:05,783 --> 01:28:10,239 Michael Peterson. I am the priest and incumbent at All 1257 01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:13,674 Saints Anglican Church. I just want to. Say a few 1258 01:28:13,674 --> 01:28:15,714 words very briefly to explain why we are seeking your 1259 01:28:15,714 --> 01:28:19,816 approval for this process. As I'm sure you're all aware, 1260 01:28:19,816 --> 01:28:24,746 from attending funerals, burial practices in society. Have changed. Radically 1261 01:28:24,746 --> 01:28:29,912 in our lifetimes, there are fewer. Impairments. Most of them 1262 01:28:29,912 --> 01:28:34,897 are cremated remains, and we believe that. The cemetery, at 1263 01:28:34,897 --> 01:28:38,457 the current rate of use, has more than enough existing 1264 01:28:38,457 --> 01:28:44,137 space for several centuries. The reason why we are seeking 1265 01:28:44,137 --> 01:28:46,977 this, seeking your approval to suburb. And so the land 1266 01:28:46,977 --> 01:28:51,115 is essentially. To allow us to continue the good work 1267 01:28:51,115 --> 01:28:53,835 that all Saints does in the community for generations to 1268 01:28:53,835 --> 01:29:00,053 come. As you are probably aware, we maintain two historic 1269 01:29:00,053 --> 01:29:03,013 buildings in Collingwood at our own expense and out. Of 1270 01:29:03,013 --> 01:29:07,873 those buildings. In addition to religious services, we provide. Space 1271 01:29:07,873 --> 01:29:12,004 for groups in the community. We provide drop in spaces. 1272 01:29:13,825 --> 01:29:19,930 For. Disadvantaged people. For lonely people. At our daytime coffee 1273 01:29:19,930 --> 01:29:25,120 hours. We feed several hundred people a month through our 1274 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,640 food ministry, and our hope is ultimately to expand our 1275 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:33,032 food services space in the church. To provide other programs, 1276 01:29:33,032 --> 01:29:35,912 such as hot breakfast programs in the community. And as 1277 01:29:35,912 --> 01:29:38,712 we are an inner city church. We see a lot 1278 01:29:38,712 --> 01:29:40,632 of, we see a lot of business, a lot of 1279 01:29:40,632 --> 01:29:43,912 street people. And we have a heart for the community 1280 01:29:43,912 --> 01:29:51,358 in that regard. So our intention and bring this proposal 1281 01:29:51,358 --> 01:29:55,355 to you is simply as I said. To continue the 1282 01:29:55,355 --> 01:29:57,715 good work that we are doing and that we hope 1283 01:29:57,715 --> 01:29:59,995 to do for generations to come, so I thank you 1284 01:29:59,995 --> 01:30:09,691 for your consideration. Thank you very much. Would there be 1285 01:30:09,691 --> 01:30:12,131 any members of the public who would like to address 1286 01:30:12,131 --> 01:30:16,305 council? There's none in chambers. Would there be any online 1287 01:30:16,305 --> 01:30:21,259 clerk, Thomas? Once again, if there's anybody online that would 1288 01:30:21,259 --> 01:30:24,139 like to address council regarding this application, please. Press the 1289 01:30:24,139 --> 01:30:34,021 raise your hand feature. Now it's time. We'll 1290 01:30:34,021 --> 01:30:38,399 close the public portion of the meeting. Would any member 1291 01:30:38,399 --> 01:30:42,370 of council have any questions or comments? Okay, I'm seeing 1292 01:30:42,370 --> 01:30:45,210 none at this time, so we will now close this 1293 01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:54,927 public meeting. Thank you everyone, for coming. The next item 1294 01:30:54,927 --> 01:31:00,367 on our agenda is 8.1. And the recommendation is that 1295 01:31:00,367 --> 01:31:03,527 the minutes of the council committee of the whole meeting 1296 01:31:03,527 --> 01:31:11,516 held December 1, 2025. Excluding committee of the whole recommendations 1297 01:31:11,516 --> 01:31:15,156 and council meeting held December 8, 2025. He approved as 1298 01:31:15,156 --> 01:31:17,836 presented could I have a mover and a seconder, please? 1299 01:31:19,417 --> 01:31:23,817 Councilor Jeffrey seconded by councilor Baines. Any comments? All those 1300 01:31:23,817 --> 01:31:27,777 in favor and that's unanimous. Thank you. Is there any 1301 01:31:27,777 --> 01:31:33,454 business arising from the previous minutes? Can you see? None. 1302 01:31:33,454 --> 01:31:39,413 The next item is 8.3.1. The recommendation is that the 1303 01:31:39,413 --> 01:31:42,853 committee of the whole recommendations from its meeting held December 1304 01:31:42,853 --> 01:31:47,595 1, 2025. Be hereby approved as presented. There's two items. 1305 01:31:47,595 --> 01:31:53,178 The first one is in 2020. 512. Master servicing plan, 1306 01:31:53,178 --> 01:31:56,498 award of contract, and the second one is reports and 1307 01:31:56,498 --> 01:31:58,818 minutes of other committees and boards. Could I have a 1308 01:31:58,818 --> 01:32:02,458 mover in a seconder, please? Councilor Perry, seconded by. Councilor 1309 01:32:02,458 --> 01:32:07,945 ring comments here. Seeing none. All those in favor? And 1310 01:32:07,945 --> 01:32:13,709 that's unanimous. Thank you. There are two staff reports this 1311 01:32:13,709 --> 01:32:21,109 afternoon. The first one is on p 2025 23 development 1312 01:32:21,109 --> 01:32:29,434 approvals. Process. The recommendation. Yeah. Thanks. The recommendation before us 1313 01:32:29,434 --> 01:32:34,114 is that staff report P 2025 23, development approvals process. 1314 01:32:39,565 --> 01:32:43,834 Also known as dap. And fuse review proposed update to 1315 01:32:43,834 --> 01:32:47,194 building fees, as amended, be received and that the proposed 1316 01:32:47,194 --> 01:32:50,594 update to the building permit fees be effective on January 1317 01:32:50,594 --> 01:32:55,794 1, 2026, per appendix be attached here, too, and schedule 1318 01:32:55,794 --> 01:33:00,914 a to bylaw 20190 00:39 be replaced to align with 1319 01:33:00,914 --> 01:33:03,429 the updated. Fees. I'll get a move in a seconder 1320 01:33:03,429 --> 01:33:07,501 before we have the staff presentation. Moved by Councilor McCulloch. 1321 01:33:07,501 --> 01:33:14,194 Seconded by Councilor Doherty. And. Who'll be speaking to this? 1322 01:33:14,194 --> 01:33:18,788 Director Valentine. Thank you. Thank you, chair. Council will recall 1323 01:33:18,788 --> 01:33:23,708 that staff had advanced proposed fee updates for planning, building 1324 01:33:23,708 --> 01:33:28,708 and development. Engineering activities flowing from the endorsed development process. 1325 01:33:30,061 --> 01:33:33,632 And fees report, also known as the DAP reports. And 1326 01:33:33,632 --> 01:33:36,592 implementing council's direction to follow a growth pays for growth 1327 01:33:36,592 --> 01:33:40,392 philosophy. We brought the proposed fees scheduled to a public 1328 01:33:40,392 --> 01:33:43,592 meeting. You'll recall that was in October of this year, 1329 01:33:43,592 --> 01:33:46,552 and delayed returning to council to allow additional time for 1330 01:33:46,552 --> 01:33:51,472 targeted consultation with the Georgian Triangle Development Institute or GDTI, 1331 01:33:51,472 --> 01:33:55,479 which is our local. Development community advocacy group, as well 1332 01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,439 as Build, which is a similar organization with a larger 1333 01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:03,645 geographic interest in the GTA and beyond. We have received 1334 01:34:03,645 --> 01:34:07,125 a follow up letter from GTDI and build and met 1335 01:34:07,125 --> 01:34:10,245 with both organizations in December and thank them for their 1336 01:34:10,245 --> 01:34:15,091 valuable insights and feedback. This report and the one following 1337 01:34:15,091 --> 01:34:18,571 have been amended to add further context to the fees 1338 01:34:18,571 --> 01:34:23,291 updates document. The feedback collected and summarized the staff recommendation, 1339 01:34:23,291 --> 01:34:27,291 recalling that staff have previous direction from council to implement 1340 01:34:27,291 --> 01:34:30,731 the endorsed app reports. So this is on the building 1341 01:34:30,731 --> 01:34:34,965 services side speaking specifically to this report. GTDI and build 1342 01:34:34,965 --> 01:34:38,565 indicated that they have no concerns with proposed fee update 1343 01:34:38,565 --> 01:34:42,931 we did not receive any other comments from public. Or 1344 01:34:42,931 --> 01:34:47,334 agencies. Therefore, it is staff's recommendation that the proposed building 1345 01:34:47,334 --> 01:34:51,734 services fee comes into effect January 1. 2026 and chair. 1346 01:34:51,734 --> 01:34:55,374 That would conclude my summary for this amended report. CBO 1347 01:34:55,374 --> 01:34:58,134 hog is online. Both her and I will be available 1348 01:34:58,134 --> 01:35:01,174 should there be any questions, and I'll reserve my further 1349 01:35:01,174 --> 01:35:06,036 commentary on the next item for. The planning and engineering 1350 01:35:06,036 --> 01:35:10,356 peace report. Thank you. Any questions or comments on this 1351 01:35:10,356 --> 01:35:15,005 report? Deputy mayor Fryer. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. And as 1352 01:35:15,005 --> 01:35:19,925 director valentine just pointed out, appreciate GTDI has indicated that 1353 01:35:19,925 --> 01:35:22,485 they don't have any concerns with this. The question I 1354 01:35:22,485 --> 01:35:26,083 was going to ask about was on page seven. It 1355 01:35:26,083 --> 01:35:31,790 refers to. The goal of having two years. For the 1356 01:35:31,790 --> 01:35:35,870 building department coverage in the reserve and that it would 1357 01:35:35,870 --> 01:35:39,510 require a change in policy by council. So I wanted 1358 01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:42,990 to ask through you, if I could, to director Valentine. 1359 01:35:42,990 --> 01:35:47,122 When I look at the adequacy of. Reserve report that 1360 01:35:47,122 --> 01:35:50,340 we get annually. And I look at the target balance 1361 01:35:50,340 --> 01:35:54,260 for building department stabilization, which I think is the right 1362 01:35:54,260 --> 01:35:58,835 reserve. To be referring to. It shows two point. Three. 1363 01:36:00,540 --> 01:36:06,546 Basically 2.349 million as the target balance. So is that 1364 01:36:06,546 --> 01:36:09,706 going to have to change in order to meet that 1365 01:36:09,706 --> 01:36:14,209 requirement of two years? Director Valentine, is this something you 1366 01:36:14,209 --> 01:36:17,249 can answer? Thank you, chair. I was going to defer 1367 01:36:17,249 --> 01:36:19,249 that. Or refer to the treasurer, but I see that 1368 01:36:19,249 --> 01:36:22,169 she's not present at this moment, so. Perhaps that's a 1369 01:36:22,169 --> 01:36:24,689 question that we can come back to. The deputy maron. 1370 01:36:24,689 --> 01:36:29,468 Thank you. Okay? Yeah. Okay. He'll get the answer later. 1371 01:36:29,468 --> 01:36:34,581 Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, seeing none. We'll vote 1372 01:36:34,581 --> 01:36:39,992 on this motion. All those in favor? That's unanimous. Thank 1373 01:36:39,992 --> 01:36:46,980 you. Next item. The recommendation is that staff report, p 1374 01:36:46,980 --> 01:36:53,580 2025 24 development approvals, process DAP and fees review proposed 1375 01:36:53,580 --> 01:36:57,020 update to planning and development engineering fees, as amended, be 1376 01:36:57,020 --> 01:37:00,820 received and that the proposed update the planning fees be 1377 01:37:00,820 --> 01:37:04,852 effective on January 1, 2026, per appendix. A attached here 1378 01:37:04,852 --> 01:37:10,272 too, and. That the proposed update to the development engineering 1379 01:37:10,272 --> 01:37:14,392 fees be effective on January 1, 2026, per appendix B 1380 01:37:14,392 --> 01:37:17,992 attached here, too, and that the proposed updates to the 1381 01:37:17,992 --> 01:37:22,408 planning and development engineering fees be included. In the 2026 1382 01:37:22,408 --> 01:37:25,488 town fees and service charges bylaw. So can I get 1383 01:37:25,488 --> 01:37:26,968 a mover? In a second or to get this on 1384 01:37:26,968 --> 01:37:33,552 the floor, please. Councilor Bain, seconded by deputy mayor. And 1385 01:37:33,552 --> 01:37:37,848 now I'll turn it over to director Valentine. Thank you 1386 01:37:37,848 --> 01:37:41,328 again, madam Chair. With respect to this item, the feedback 1387 01:37:41,328 --> 01:37:45,088 that we receive from GTDI. And bills. Their comments certainly 1388 01:37:45,088 --> 01:37:48,928 concentrated on this particular report for the planning and development 1389 01:37:48,928 --> 01:37:53,484 engineering service fees. And you will also note that there 1390 01:37:53,484 --> 01:37:57,924 was no additional feedback from individual developers, consulting firms, agencies, 1391 01:37:57,924 --> 01:38:01,324 or the general public beyond what we received from GTDI 1392 01:38:01,324 --> 01:38:06,164 and build. Both organizations raise questions about the fees and 1393 01:38:06,164 --> 01:38:09,684 how they were calculated. And while the answers to their 1394 01:38:09,684 --> 01:38:14,022 specific concerns are contained in the. Amended staff report. Their 1395 01:38:14,022 --> 01:38:17,727 request was that council. Consider one year delay or deferral 1396 01:38:17,727 --> 01:38:22,567 in implementing the planning and development engineering fees. Recognizing the 1397 01:38:22,567 --> 01:38:27,087 challenging economic conditions facing the development and construction industries, and 1398 01:38:27,087 --> 01:38:31,167 they do anticipate those will continue. Into 2026 and potentially 1399 01:38:31,167 --> 01:38:36,061 further into 2027. You did hear from President Ken Hale, 1400 01:38:36,061 --> 01:38:40,021 representing the GTDI earlier in this meeting, and he articulated 1401 01:38:40,021 --> 01:38:44,174 their position. Quite clearly. You also have access to the 1402 01:38:44,174 --> 01:38:48,856 letters from GTTI and built in your agenda package. A 1403 01:38:48,856 --> 01:38:51,336 deferral is certainly an option that this council may consider 1404 01:38:51,336 --> 01:38:54,496 at your sole discretion. However. With great respect to the 1405 01:38:54,496 --> 01:38:58,096 GDTI and for our ongoing positive relationship, we would like 1406 01:38:58,096 --> 01:38:59,976 to take the opportunity to speak to some of the 1407 01:38:59,976 --> 01:39:04,425 points in their presentation. The demand for planning services is 1408 01:39:04,425 --> 01:39:08,705 not in a continued decline. Application numbers have remained steady. 1409 01:39:08,705 --> 01:39:12,185 An average of 115 applications per year for the last 1410 01:39:12,185 --> 01:39:15,785 three years from 2022 to 2024, as indicated. In the 1411 01:39:15,785 --> 01:39:20,570 amended report. With only 2025 seeing a projected decrease by 1412 01:39:20,570 --> 01:39:27,434 17% from our average. Volume of applications. Planning fee. Revenues 1413 01:39:27,434 --> 01:39:31,994 generated from applications ranged in the area from 145,000 to 1414 01:39:31,994 --> 01:39:36,434 225,000 per year, and the committee of adjustment, which is 1415 01:39:36,434 --> 01:39:39,760 also a type of planning fee. Their revenues ranged from 1416 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,068 30,000 to 50,000 annually. And combined, those do not approach 1417 01:39:45,068 --> 01:39:50,548 covering renumeration for staff efforts to process those applications leading 1418 01:39:50,548 --> 01:39:55,268 to a current taxpayer subsidy of 71% of the costs, 1419 01:39:55,268 --> 01:40:00,868 or approximately $500,000 annual impacts on the property tax levery 1420 01:40:00,868 --> 01:40:03,405 in a year where we have an average vol. Volume 1421 01:40:03,405 --> 01:40:07,741 of applications. Recoverable costs are not based on the budget 1422 01:40:07,741 --> 01:40:12,011 book. Full time employee. It's full time equivalents assigned to 1423 01:40:12,011 --> 01:40:16,491 the development management subservice. Those employees. While they do work 1424 01:40:16,491 --> 01:40:20,811 on development applications, they undertake many tasks that are outside 1425 01:40:20,811 --> 01:40:26,211 that process, such as participating in Ontario Land tribunal appeals, 1426 01:40:26,211 --> 01:40:31,108 fielding inquiries, undertaking internal process improvements. And responding to requests 1427 01:40:31,108 --> 01:40:34,108 of council, it would be, in fact, illegal for us 1428 01:40:34,108 --> 01:40:37,948 as a municipality to recover staffing costs that are over 1429 01:40:37,948 --> 01:40:41,748 and above what is required to directly manage land use 1430 01:40:41,748 --> 01:40:47,189 planning. Applications under the Planning Act. The 2025 and 2026 1431 01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:50,189 budgets, though related, have no direct bearing on the fees 1432 01:40:50,189 --> 01:40:55,069 recommended in the DAC reports, which were calculated in 2024 1433 01:40:55,069 --> 01:40:58,029 to meet the legal requirements under the Planning act and 1434 01:40:58,029 --> 01:41:01,749 industry standard efforts. Analysis was used to determine appropriate fee 1435 01:41:01,749 --> 01:41:05,555 levels with multiple checks and balances along with adjust. Adjustments 1436 01:41:05,555 --> 01:41:11,083 for legislative changes. And internal consistency where consultant recommendations were 1437 01:41:11,083 --> 01:41:15,003 not aligned with similar application types. To be clear, the 1438 01:41:15,003 --> 01:41:19,963 efforts analysis approach to calculating fees. It doesn't matter if 1439 01:41:19,963 --> 01:41:24,203 an organization has one employee or 50 staff dedicated to 1440 01:41:24,203 --> 01:41:28,043 development review. It is the average number of human hours 1441 01:41:28,043 --> 01:41:31,363 requ? Required to process one application of each application type 1442 01:41:31,363 --> 01:41:34,760 that is used to set the fees. Whether there are 1443 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,400 sufficient human resources to cover the work required to process 1444 01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,760 application volumes in an average year. That's a different question, 1445 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,680 which was also addressed by the consultants, but has no 1446 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,600 impact. On the proposed fees, and we can confirm that 1447 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,280 there have been no additions to the staff complement. For 1448 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:55,040 development management. Since the DAP reports. Were completed in 2024. 1449 01:41:57,169 --> 01:41:59,529 Lastly, GDTi notes that some fees will triple. This is 1450 01:41:59,529 --> 01:42:03,009 correct. It is also a symptom of the fact that. 1451 01:42:04,339 --> 01:42:07,099 Staff were not able to find any evidence that Collingwood 1452 01:42:07,099 --> 01:42:12,019 has undertaken a comprehensive fee review for development. Applications, and 1453 01:42:12,019 --> 01:42:16,019 therefore the town lags far behind our competitors as well 1454 01:42:16,019 --> 01:42:20,642 as far behind the 75% cost recovery target. We would 1455 01:42:20,642 --> 01:42:25,282 also emphasize that using efforts analysis approach, not all planning 1456 01:42:25,282 --> 01:42:28,802 fees are proposed to increase some are proposed to decrease 1457 01:42:28,802 --> 01:42:32,422 while others remain the same. To that end, the staff 1458 01:42:32,422 --> 01:42:34,942 recommendation is to proceed with the fees update based on 1459 01:42:34,942 --> 01:42:37,902 the previous direction. Of council to adopt a general growth 1460 01:42:37,902 --> 01:42:41,182 pays for growth philosophy, noting that a number of adjustments 1461 01:42:41,182 --> 01:42:44,861 were made to achieve. What we as staff feel is 1462 01:42:44,861 --> 01:42:48,701 an appropriate balance to take into account legislative shifts. Province's 1463 01:42:48,701 --> 01:42:53,866 goal of increasing housing supply. Internal consistency, current economic conditions, 1464 01:42:53,866 --> 01:42:57,066 and the impacts on both the taxpayer and the development 1465 01:42:57,066 --> 01:43:00,154 community. With your patients. I would just like to highlight 1466 01:43:00,154 --> 01:43:04,567 a few points from the amended staff report. Recognizing that 1467 01:43:04,567 --> 01:43:09,552 the current economic situation. Is less and ideal and ensuring 1468 01:43:09,552 --> 01:43:13,478 that there is reduced sticker shock for the industry. Any 1469 01:43:13,478 --> 01:43:16,238 propose increases to land use planning fees are to be 1470 01:43:16,238 --> 01:43:19,318 phased over a four year period on the flip side, 1471 01:43:19,318 --> 01:43:22,798 any of the proposed decreases would be implemented immediately starting 1472 01:43:22,798 --> 01:43:28,158 January 1, 2026. The proposed fee structure recognizes the community 1473 01:43:28,158 --> 01:43:31,878 benefits generated by development, by setting cost recovery for all 1474 01:43:31,878 --> 01:43:37,323 planning fees at 25% across the board. Sorry. 75% across 1475 01:43:37,323 --> 01:43:42,443 the board, which is a developer discount of 25%, noting 1476 01:43:42,443 --> 01:43:46,323 that our current taxpayer subsidy sits at 71%, meaning that 1477 01:43:46,323 --> 01:43:50,683 developers are only paying 29% of the costs associated with 1478 01:43:50,683 --> 01:43:54,278 processing applications. This does not represent a growth pace for 1479 01:43:54,278 --> 01:43:57,718 growth approach and is resulting in an annual subsidy of 1480 01:43:57,718 --> 01:44:01,878 approximately $500,000 per year on the tax levy. If the 1481 01:44:01,878 --> 01:44:05,158 fee update does not proceed. Or is deferred, the subsidy 1482 01:44:05,158 --> 01:44:09,833 would continue at approximately that level for 2026. Staff were 1483 01:44:09,833 --> 01:44:13,233 certainly cognizant that housing affordability is influenced not only by 1484 01:44:13,233 --> 01:44:16,633 the purchase price, but also by the purchasing power of 1485 01:44:16,633 --> 01:44:22,035 individuals and households, which can be impacted by taxation. And 1486 01:44:22,035 --> 01:44:25,515 that is how our subsidy is collected. We would also 1487 01:44:25,515 --> 01:44:29,075 highlight that development engineering fees are proposed. To be maintained 1488 01:44:29,075 --> 01:44:32,515 at current levels, meaning no increase is proposed. Rather, we 1489 01:44:32,515 --> 01:44:36,115 are altering the timing of the payment of those fees 1490 01:44:36,115 --> 01:44:39,595 so that they align with workload, reduce administrative delays, and 1491 01:44:39,595 --> 01:44:42,728 ensure that applicants are aware upfront of. Their overall financial 1492 01:44:42,728 --> 01:44:47,699 obligations. Another consideration is ensuring that our fees are competitive 1493 01:44:47,699 --> 01:44:52,619 and aligned with neighboring and. Comparative municipalities, noting that the 1494 01:44:52,619 --> 01:44:55,779 town of Blue Mountains Council recently updated its planning and 1495 01:44:55,779 --> 01:44:59,499 development engineering fees and that was subsequent to the finalization 1496 01:44:59,499 --> 01:45:03,499 of our peer review comparison provided by the consulting team. 1497 01:45:03,499 --> 01:45:06,619 Meaning that Collingwood was already behind comparable municipalities in 2024 1498 01:45:06,619 --> 01:45:11,523 and now continues to fall further behind. Finally, as you 1499 01:45:11,523 --> 01:45:15,083 see from today's agenda, for those who are building affordable 1500 01:45:15,083 --> 01:45:18,843 housing, there is already a development charge relief through the 1501 01:45:18,843 --> 01:45:22,323 province's legislation, and if approved, there will be a local 1502 01:45:22,323 --> 01:45:26,243 incentive framework that developers can access to offset the cost 1503 01:45:26,243 --> 01:45:30,203 of fees and charges. This certainly bears mentioning as affordability 1504 01:45:30,203 --> 01:45:33,109 was brought. Up both by the GTDI and by council 1505 01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:37,109 members during our public meetings associated with these fees. That 1506 01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:39,629 concludes the summary of the amended report. We have several 1507 01:45:39,629 --> 01:45:42,829 staff here to assist with answering questions. Including myself and 1508 01:45:42,829 --> 01:45:46,269 director Alcoca. Manager Lial is online and next to me 1509 01:45:46,269 --> 01:45:50,669 we have manager Ayers. Thank you, chair, and happy to 1510 01:45:50,669 --> 01:45:54,038 respond. To questions or comments as needed. Hey, thank you 1511 01:45:54,038 --> 01:45:57,586 for that thorough report. I'll turn this over to council 1512 01:45:57,586 --> 01:46:05,396 then. Any questions, comments? Councilor jeffrey. Thank you, Mihan. So 1513 01:46:05,396 --> 01:46:10,236 I guess my first question is the anticipated 25% of 1514 01:46:10,236 --> 01:46:14,356 increased fees. Coming in for 2026, already contemplated in our 1515 01:46:14,356 --> 01:46:19,640 2026 draft budget. Is this a question for the treasurer? 1516 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,174 Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin, for you to councilor 1517 01:46:23,174 --> 01:46:27,654 Jeffrey. No, the 25% is not included. In the 2026 1518 01:46:27,654 --> 01:46:34,327 draft budget. Okay. Oh, sorry, cao. 1519 01:46:37,563 --> 01:46:40,283 Thank you. I just thought, for clarity, through the chair. 1520 01:46:42,288 --> 01:46:46,751 The potential for increased fees. As well as the potential 1521 01:46:46,751 --> 01:46:54,905 for immediate rebates. Both are not included. And. We're not 1522 01:46:54,905 --> 01:46:56,985 predicting that there would be an overall change in income, 1523 01:46:56,985 --> 01:47:02,166 but this would be starting to restructure. The overall financial 1524 01:47:02,166 --> 01:47:08,455 framework of taxpayer and developer balance. So I just wanted 1525 01:47:08,455 --> 01:47:12,295 to say that we weren't forecasting regardless of your decision 1526 01:47:12,295 --> 01:47:16,655 tonight. Unless I stand corrected by the department or the 1527 01:47:16,655 --> 01:47:20,855 treasurer or that we're certain there would. Be a change 1528 01:47:20,855 --> 01:47:24,215 in revenue that could potentially be applied to the department 1529 01:47:24,215 --> 01:47:28,822 or elsewhere. Okay. I just don't know how you change 1530 01:47:28,822 --> 01:47:36,393 fees. And not predict based on increased activity, why there 1531 01:47:36,393 --> 01:47:39,113 wouldn't be increased. I'm going to ask the treasurer to 1532 01:47:39,113 --> 01:47:42,685 that question. I think she can answer. Treasure. Graham, is 1533 01:47:42,685 --> 01:47:45,485 that a question for you or director Valentine? Okay, thank 1534 01:47:45,485 --> 01:47:51,083 you. Thank you, chair. And perhaps I might have misunderstood 1535 01:47:51,083 --> 01:47:55,283 the CIO's comments, but pending a decision from council today. 1536 01:47:55,283 --> 01:47:58,083 There's still an opportunity, as I understand it, to adjust 1537 01:47:58,083 --> 01:48:03,385 the. Revenue increase the revenue incomes for Lenny's planning applications 1538 01:48:03,385 --> 01:48:07,145 in the 2026 budget and in our report. And of 1539 01:48:07,145 --> 01:48:09,505 course, this is an estimate, because we don't know how 1540 01:48:09,505 --> 01:48:11,545 many applications and of which type will be coming forward 1541 01:48:11,545 --> 01:48:15,775 in 2026. We would estimate. We would be receiving an 1542 01:48:15,775 --> 01:48:22,471 additional 125,000 in 2026. If the 25. Percent increase came 1543 01:48:22,471 --> 01:48:25,446 into effect. As anticipated on January 1. So there is 1544 01:48:25,446 --> 01:48:28,846 an opportunity to adjust the budget by approximately that amount. 1545 01:48:28,846 --> 01:48:33,040 Of increased revenues coming through to planning services. Thank you. 1546 01:48:34,641 --> 01:48:39,585 Thank you. For that response. That's great. I'm a bit 1547 01:48:39,585 --> 01:48:42,342 of. Two minds. And I guess my other question would 1548 01:48:42,342 --> 01:48:45,742 be through to director Valentine, because I was curious. Reading 1549 01:48:45,742 --> 01:48:50,295 about some of the fees that. The consultant had come 1550 01:48:50,295 --> 01:48:56,226 in at, I think, around $847. And staff increased those 1551 01:48:56,226 --> 01:49:01,434 to around 4400. And I know that the consultants report 1552 01:49:01,434 --> 01:49:05,034 was done in 2024, and I'm just wondering. What impacts 1553 01:49:05,034 --> 01:49:09,440 between then and this recommendation would have happened? That would 1554 01:49:09,440 --> 01:49:15,598 impact that decision or that recommendation. Go ahead, director Valentine. 1555 01:49:15,598 --> 01:49:18,238 Thank you, Taryn. Through you and certainly manage your ayers, 1556 01:49:18,238 --> 01:49:21,638 who is deep into the details of this report can 1557 01:49:21,638 --> 01:49:26,988 layer on. The changes since 2024 include legislative changes. So, 1558 01:49:26,988 --> 01:49:30,468 for example, pre consultation, which used to be requirement is 1559 01:49:30,468 --> 01:49:35,296 now voluntary. So in that example, The consultant recommended quite 1560 01:49:35,296 --> 01:49:39,176 a boost in the pre consultation fees, which we didn't 1561 01:49:39,176 --> 01:49:43,576 think would be appropriate for encouraging folks to come through 1562 01:49:43,576 --> 01:49:49,590 a voluntary process. The other component. That has changed, or 1563 01:49:49,590 --> 01:49:52,550 I would say is notable, perhaps, is that there's a 1564 01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:56,797 number of application types which the town. Has not processed 1565 01:49:56,797 --> 01:49:59,597 in the last seven years or more. So when the 1566 01:49:59,597 --> 01:50:03,477 consultants were undertaking their efforts, analysis, there was not very 1567 01:50:03,477 --> 01:50:07,677 much of any data to drive those fees. So when 1568 01:50:07,677 --> 01:50:10,637 we looked at the entire body of what the consultants 1569 01:50:10,637 --> 01:50:14,665 recommended. There were certain fees for almost the same efforts, 1570 01:50:14,665 --> 01:50:18,785 very similar application types that were extremely different. So we 1571 01:50:18,785 --> 01:50:21,585 tried to align those internally so that there was consistency 1572 01:50:21,585 --> 01:50:27,560 amongst the fees as an entire body. Thank you. Councilor 1573 01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,240 Payne. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. I'd just like to offer. 1574 01:50:34,918 --> 01:50:37,958 My thanks and congratulations to Director Valentine and to all 1575 01:50:37,958 --> 01:50:42,597 staff for a very detailed and pointed. Fuel point by 1576 01:50:42,597 --> 01:50:48,438 point explanation. For your recommendation. And it would seem to 1577 01:50:48,438 --> 01:50:54,154 me, to the TDI request to defer. Other than the 1578 01:50:54,154 --> 01:50:59,114 CPI, these increases, in my opinion, I think that just 1579 01:50:59,114 --> 01:51:01,714 compounds the issue of kicking it down the road, so 1580 01:51:01,714 --> 01:51:04,714 to speak, and particularly the sticker shock if, as and 1581 01:51:04,714 --> 01:51:09,332 when it takes effect. So, as unpalatable as that may 1582 01:51:09,332 --> 01:51:12,972 be to some, I think it's appropriate to proceed with 1583 01:51:12,972 --> 01:51:20,204 the staff recommendation. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Council. 1584 01:51:20,204 --> 01:51:29,132 Doherty. Thank you, chair. I am. Equally conflicted. 1585 01:51:31,550 --> 01:51:38,880 On this staff report. I'm very sympathetic to the development 1586 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:48,041 community. Absolutely. But. Any 1587 01:51:48,041 --> 01:51:54,226 lowering of our development applications right now. Is really due 1588 01:51:54,226 --> 01:52:01,827 to complexity. Of factors and. It's not development charges alone 1589 01:52:01,827 --> 01:52:06,434 or planning fees. It's got a lot to do, also 1590 01:52:06,434 --> 01:52:10,349 with market conditions and. I'm not going to put too 1591 01:52:10,349 --> 01:52:14,326 fine a footpoint on it. Because we all know it's 1592 01:52:14,326 --> 01:52:22,771 a very complex market out there. But. The thing that 1593 01:52:22,771 --> 01:52:29,560 really drives my decision. Is the fact that. Our residents 1594 01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:34,036 are picking up. So much of the cost. Of our 1595 01:52:34,036 --> 01:52:42,815 development applications. And. It's not fair. Growth should properly pay 1596 01:52:42,815 --> 01:52:51,195 for growth. My other conclusion. And I hope that I 1597 01:52:51,195 --> 01:52:57,279 will be correct. Is that another complaint? That we hear. 1598 01:52:58,387 --> 01:53:05,423 With regard to. Planning applications is. How slow the processing 1599 01:53:05,423 --> 01:53:12,920 is. So. I am going to assume that. The changes 1600 01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:18,464 that are being proposed. And phased. Will have the effect 1601 01:53:18,464 --> 01:53:25,903 of allowing. The planning department to apply. The correct. Amount 1602 01:53:25,903 --> 01:53:32,526 of resource. To allow applications to be processed more quickly 1603 01:53:32,526 --> 01:53:38,408 and in that way. We are going to assist. The 1604 01:53:38,408 --> 01:53:43,732 development community. In their costs by making these things faster. 1605 01:53:45,838 --> 01:53:54,381 So. I will support. Staff's recommendation. Thank you. Thank you. 1606 01:53:55,240 --> 01:54:01,877 Anyone else like to comment? Deputy mayor. Thank you, Mayor 1607 01:54:01,877 --> 01:54:08,545 Hamlin. Again being sensitive to. The concerns raised by GTdi. 1608 01:54:10,780 --> 01:54:16,152 And very appreciative of the cooperative process. And GTDI has 1609 01:54:16,152 --> 01:54:18,872 always been great in that regard, working with our staff. 1610 01:54:20,155 --> 01:54:23,235 I do believe staff have taken to heart a lot 1611 01:54:23,235 --> 01:54:27,898 of what the input had been coming. And they proposed 1612 01:54:27,898 --> 01:54:33,097 a collection of things with phasing in. Reduction of some 1613 01:54:33,097 --> 01:54:38,390 of the consultants recommendations of fees. Going to the 75% 1614 01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:43,277 level. So I do believe. Made what they think are 1615 01:54:43,277 --> 01:54:50,462 the best recommendations possible. In regards to. Trying to help 1616 01:54:50,462 --> 01:54:54,550 with the impacts overall. I'm supportive of what they've done. 1617 01:54:58,306 --> 01:55:02,857 So I'm going to support the bylaw. To be passed 1618 01:55:02,857 --> 01:55:10,356 and implemented as requested for January 1. I do have 1619 01:55:10,356 --> 01:55:13,476 some questions that are going to be more in the 1620 01:55:13,476 --> 01:55:20,396 budget part of the presentation. But. I just feel like 1621 01:55:20,396 --> 01:55:22,756 there is that situation where if we don't do it 1622 01:55:22,756 --> 01:55:29,096 now, Would we do it again in 2027? I'm going 1623 01:55:29,096 --> 01:55:35,174 to support. The recommendations of staff at this point in 1624 01:55:35,174 --> 01:55:39,321 time and hope that there's other ways. That they can 1625 01:55:39,321 --> 01:55:45,703 assist. The development community going forward. To help alleviate. On 1626 01:55:45,703 --> 01:55:49,744 that particular part of the increase. Thank you. Thank you. 1627 01:55:49,744 --> 01:55:54,491 Would anyone else like to speak? Altra said. This is 1628 01:55:54,491 --> 01:55:57,291 a really hard one because no one wants to add 1629 01:55:57,291 --> 01:56:01,771 additional fees or any fees to anyone, whether they're in 1630 01:56:01,771 --> 01:56:08,269 the building industry or, in fact, our own community. But 1631 01:56:08,269 --> 01:56:14,158 particularly. The building and development industry. Everyone recognizes. Is not 1632 01:56:14,158 --> 01:56:19,911 in a good place right now. But. I am so 1633 01:56:19,911 --> 01:56:23,660 mindful of the fact that. The staff's target is to. 1634 01:56:25,557 --> 01:56:28,997 Have only 75% of the cost of these applications borne 1635 01:56:28,997 --> 01:56:36,273 by. Our. Residential taxpayers. And we're at 29%. We have 1636 01:56:36,273 --> 01:56:39,193 a long way to go, so I think a modest 1637 01:56:39,193 --> 01:56:44,278 increase this year. Is not a bad way to be 1638 01:56:44,278 --> 01:56:48,364 going. We get a chance to review these fees anytime 1639 01:56:48,364 --> 01:56:52,422 we want. So I think. We should anyway. For me, 1640 01:56:52,422 --> 01:56:57,083 I'm going to support the staff recommendation this afternoon. And 1641 01:56:57,083 --> 01:57:01,150 see where we go. Okay, so with that in mind, 1642 01:57:01,150 --> 01:57:03,470 we'll bring this to a vote. All those in favor? 1643 01:57:05,509 --> 01:57:09,510 And that's unanimous. Thank you. The next item is the 1644 01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:17,675 bylaw. Dealing with fees and services. And the. Recommendation is. 1645 01:57:17,675 --> 01:57:22,039 This is at 10.1 bylaw number. We're going to sever 1646 01:57:22,039 --> 01:57:25,159 out the item for the pool fees, so I'm going 1647 01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:28,559 to say. What we're asking to approve is bylaw number 1648 01:57:28,559 --> 01:57:32,479 20 25 86 being a life bylaw to adopt the 1649 01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:38,750 2026 fees and services charge bylaw. Except relating to the 1650 01:57:38,750 --> 01:57:47,318 pool fees. With that. Also, if we sever that out, 1651 01:57:47,318 --> 01:57:50,678 does that take out the request from who knows? This 1652 01:57:50,678 --> 01:57:53,278 the request from the georgian based wall. So it's georgian 1653 01:57:53,278 --> 01:57:59,801 based wall? Yeah. Okay. Everything else other than that. Could 1654 01:57:59,801 --> 01:58:02,121 I have a mover in a seconder? So mover is 1655 01:58:02,121 --> 01:58:07,459 deputy mayor Friar, the secondary is councillor Jeffrey. Any discussion 1656 01:58:07,459 --> 01:58:12,355 on that? All those. Councilor Dougherty. Go ahead. Not the 1657 01:58:12,355 --> 01:58:17,022 pool. Yeah. Well, I was going to comment on the 1658 01:58:17,022 --> 01:58:19,662 pool that I don't think that we need. To take 1659 01:58:19,662 --> 01:58:24,182 out all of the recommended fee changes for the pool. 1660 01:58:24,182 --> 01:58:29,763 It's just. For? Well, no, there's. Deputy mayor Friar has 1661 01:58:29,763 --> 01:58:33,043 a conflict, so we're taking all of it out. Okay. 1662 01:58:33,043 --> 01:58:36,243 For now. Fair enough. Okay. Thing, any other comments? All 1663 01:58:36,243 --> 01:58:42,432 those in favor? That's unanimous. Thank you. So now. The 1664 01:58:42,432 --> 01:58:47,512 recommendation before you is bylaw number 25 86, being a 1665 01:58:47,512 --> 01:58:51,592 bala to adopt the 26 fees. And services charges relating 1666 01:58:51,592 --> 01:58:56,393 solely to the pool fees. Be enacted and passed. Okay, 1667 01:58:56,393 --> 01:59:01,307 move her in a seconder, please. To get this on 1668 01:59:01,307 --> 01:59:06,035 the table. Okay. Councilor McCullough, seconded by Councilor Baines. Councilor 1669 01:59:06,035 --> 01:59:14,901 Dougherty. Thank you very much. So what I would like 1670 01:59:14,901 --> 01:59:19,181 to do is suggest that we just hold the increase. 1671 01:59:21,623 --> 01:59:27,149 On. The squall group. And similar groups that are using 1672 01:59:27,149 --> 01:59:33,680 the pool. Where there is. Fairly significant differential between themselves. 1673 01:59:35,017 --> 01:59:41,781 And as an organization. Organizations. And just individual public users. 1674 01:59:42,905 --> 01:59:48,579 I think we have to list exactly. Yeah, I don't 1675 01:59:48,579 --> 01:59:50,979 think we can do that. General of a recommendation. Maybe 1676 01:59:50,979 --> 01:59:53,459 you have a question for staff about how you might 1677 01:59:53,459 --> 02:00:02,395 scope that. And I could pose that. Can I just 1678 02:00:02,395 --> 02:00:06,795 ask the clerk home if she has a comment? Certainly. 1679 02:00:06,795 --> 02:00:09,595 Thank you. Staff, through your worship to council Dory stuff 1680 02:00:09,595 --> 02:00:12,195 have been talking in the background about what an appropriate 1681 02:00:12,195 --> 02:00:15,275 amendment would look like, and the recommendation is to proceed 1682 02:00:15,275 --> 02:00:18,275 with the fees as proposed and that you provide a 1683 02:00:18,275 --> 02:00:23,107 notice of motion that we waive fees. To the georgian 1684 02:00:23,107 --> 02:00:27,027 squall for a fee based on either the base rate 1685 02:00:27,027 --> 02:00:32,917 or the youth. Rate or 1.5 rate. Until the PRC 1686 02:00:32,917 --> 02:00:36,185 master plan review is done. That's going to be investigating 1687 02:00:36,185 --> 02:00:40,218 this policy. Thank you. Okay, so that will bring that 1688 02:00:40,218 --> 02:00:45,742 up at the appropriate time. I think now is a 1689 02:00:45,742 --> 02:00:52,464 good time. I think now is a good time. Do 1690 02:00:52,464 --> 02:00:54,304 you have that? So we could see it. Those words. 1691 02:00:56,524 --> 02:01:01,550 There's other groups. That we don't want, but we would 1692 02:01:01,550 --> 02:01:04,350 want to lead our most moved. So you would. Waive 1693 02:01:04,350 --> 02:01:12,510 fees for. All. I'm just not understanding. So. Really? My 1694 02:01:12,510 --> 02:01:15,230 suggestion was not to waive fees, but just to hold 1695 02:01:15,230 --> 02:01:21,856 the increase on. These not for profit user groups. Until 1696 02:01:21,856 --> 02:01:29,746 we can rationalize. Those fees versus. Other groups, like the 1697 02:01:29,746 --> 02:01:37,440 clippers. Director, Cuba. What's your comment on this? Thank you 1698 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:42,031 through your worship. I just thought. It would be important 1699 02:01:42,031 --> 02:01:48,016 to caution that. We have nearly a dozen. For profit 1700 02:01:48,016 --> 02:01:52,641 businesses that regularly rent our Rec facilities. Including our arenas 1701 02:01:52,641 --> 02:01:56,761 and our sports fields, and there's actually two commercial users 1702 02:01:56,761 --> 02:01:59,977 at our pool. And in order to consider all of 1703 02:01:59,977 --> 02:02:05,409 these businesses fairly inequitably, And maybe avoid a slippery slope. 1704 02:02:05,409 --> 02:02:10,169 We'd recommend an overall policy review to address recreational facility. 1705 02:02:10,169 --> 02:02:14,103 Fees and how they may be tiered. I also want 1706 02:02:14,103 --> 02:02:16,063 to note that this work will have implications to our 1707 02:02:16,063 --> 02:02:21,663 current council approved facility allocation. Policy, which also prioritizes allocation 1708 02:02:21,663 --> 02:02:27,612 by category. So youth over adults over commercial programming. So 1709 02:02:27,612 --> 02:02:30,412 I think, ideally, we'd recommend that this be referred to 1710 02:02:30,412 --> 02:02:35,252 the recreation portion of the PRC master plan update that's 1711 02:02:35,252 --> 02:02:39,772 currently proposed for 2027. If that is not council's. Desire, 1712 02:02:39,772 --> 02:02:45,757 then perhaps. You were looking at. Reduction fees for the 1713 02:02:45,757 --> 02:02:52,227 school. And potentially the other current commercial user. At the 1714 02:02:52,227 --> 02:02:56,775 pool. Until that work has been done. From the commercial 1715 02:02:56,775 --> 02:03:01,418 rate to the current basic rate. Just offer that. Thank 1716 02:03:01,418 --> 02:03:05,458 you. And can I just ask a question of that? 1717 02:03:05,458 --> 02:03:09,932 And what would you. Do with the fees? For 26. 1718 02:03:11,468 --> 02:03:16,905 What are you suggesting? We could consider just not implementing 1719 02:03:16,905 --> 02:03:21,025 the commercial rate at the pool, specifically, if that should 1720 02:03:21,025 --> 02:03:25,802 be council's. Desire in 2026. Okay, Councilor Dougherty, back to 1721 02:03:25,802 --> 02:03:30,278 you. Thank you. I think we have the ability to 1722 02:03:30,278 --> 02:03:39,644 differentiate between. Not for profits and. True commercial. Entities. I 1723 02:03:39,644 --> 02:03:47,561 don't envision. Reducing. Fees. For all of these groups. If 1724 02:03:47,561 --> 02:03:50,921 they're in the business of doing this for profit, but 1725 02:03:50,921 --> 02:03:56,625 this particular group. That provided a deputation to us earlier 1726 02:03:56,625 --> 02:04:02,880 today. It's a different situation altogether. They're not there for 1727 02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:10,554 the prophet and in the meantime. They're excellent users. Of 1728 02:04:10,554 --> 02:04:14,008 the pool and taking up capacity. In a good way. 1729 02:04:16,255 --> 02:04:23,520 So really my suggestion. To simplify. Perhaps. And Director Cubit, 1730 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:28,531 I think she sort of outlined it, that. We simply 1731 02:04:28,531 --> 02:04:34,063 for this particular group. Only that we reduce their fees. 1732 02:04:35,627 --> 02:04:43,623 To. The. Equivalent. Other user groups. That are enjoying that 1733 02:04:43,623 --> 02:04:49,713 reduced. Fee for? I think it was $59 versus. 100 1734 02:04:49,713 --> 02:04:56,213 and change. So just to. Keep the rate at the 1735 02:04:56,213 --> 02:04:59,536 lower. Keep it at the lower rate. Sorry. Trying to 1736 02:04:59,536 --> 02:05:02,056 make it simple, and I'm not. Okay. Thank you for 1737 02:05:02,056 --> 02:05:06,016 that, councilor baines. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. I have a 1738 02:05:06,016 --> 02:05:09,308 challenge with that. I'm sympathetic to this specific issue, but 1739 02:05:09,308 --> 02:05:10,908 it seems to me this all comes back to the 1740 02:05:10,908 --> 02:05:15,480 definition of commercial versus not for profit. And if the 1741 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:19,325 review of the recreational master plan will address that. Or 1742 02:05:19,325 --> 02:05:22,761 if staff can come back about that. I hate to 1743 02:05:22,761 --> 02:05:25,881 set a precedent for one particular group when other groups 1744 02:05:25,881 --> 02:05:29,361 could benefit from that categorization. If you will, but it 1745 02:05:29,361 --> 02:05:32,677 seems to me. That's the essential point here. And if 1746 02:05:32,677 --> 02:05:36,394 we can buy some time to come back. With staff 1747 02:05:36,394 --> 02:05:40,405 recommendation about that. The challenge is how you fit that 1748 02:05:40,405 --> 02:05:43,685 into the 26 fee increases. I can't address that. Right 1749 02:05:43,685 --> 02:05:47,325 now, but I would worry about establishing a precedent at 1750 02:05:47,325 --> 02:05:51,302 this point for one specific group. Hey. Anyone else like 1751 02:05:51,302 --> 02:05:55,928 to comment on this? Well. 1752 02:06:01,273 --> 02:06:03,433 What I'm not understanding. I think it could just be 1753 02:06:03,433 --> 02:06:09,315 me. But. Are there others? I guess there's a couple 1754 02:06:09,315 --> 02:06:13,795 of choices here. One for 2026. We just moved the. 1755 02:06:14,926 --> 02:06:18,210 Georgian base wall back into the basic. While the review 1756 02:06:18,210 --> 02:06:22,329 is going on, but if we do that, Director. Qubit, 1757 02:06:22,329 --> 02:06:27,361 are we leaving any other group? In a commercial category 1758 02:06:27,361 --> 02:06:33,769 this year. That's been moved up into it. Thank you. 1759 02:06:33,769 --> 02:06:36,329 At the pool, specifically. Yes. Vo two was also a 1760 02:06:36,329 --> 02:06:44,510 commercial renter of that space. Okay, I see. Councilor Jeffrey. 1761 02:06:44,510 --> 02:06:49,433 Thank you. Mary Hamlin. So I'm just wondering. If we 1762 02:06:49,433 --> 02:06:53,151 can refer. This back and get the information before we 1763 02:06:53,151 --> 02:06:56,632 vote on this portion of the bylaw. Is that? I 1764 02:06:56,632 --> 02:06:59,832 guess through to the clerk. Is that potential? It would 1765 02:06:59,832 --> 02:07:03,832 have to be retroactive. To January 1. Whatever changes we 1766 02:07:03,832 --> 02:07:06,792 do, I guess because we aren't going to meet to 1767 02:07:06,792 --> 02:07:10,232 receive that information until the new year. But to me, 1768 02:07:10,232 --> 02:07:13,952 I'd rather have a clear understanding. Of the landscape before 1769 02:07:13,952 --> 02:07:19,214 I vote on it. I'm just trying to understand. What 1770 02:07:19,214 --> 02:07:23,829 is it that. We keep the fees the same as 1771 02:07:23,829 --> 02:07:26,509 until we change it. Is it just the users of 1772 02:07:26,509 --> 02:07:28,949 the group, which is v O two and South Georgian 1773 02:07:28,949 --> 02:07:33,098 Bay squall because. They're the two commercial categories. Or do 1774 02:07:33,098 --> 02:07:36,738 we want all the pool or all the recreational? Facilities 1775 02:07:36,738 --> 02:07:38,738 with commercial like. I think we have to narrow this 1776 02:07:38,738 --> 02:07:45,823 somehow. Yeah. I would ask for stuff to narrow that 1777 02:07:45,823 --> 02:07:48,949 for us because. I think it does all come down 1778 02:07:48,949 --> 02:07:53,149 to just that commercial designation. And if we don't? Institute 1779 02:07:53,149 --> 02:07:57,743 that until we get a report back, then. It would 1780 02:07:57,743 --> 02:08:00,743 be status quo. Yeah, I have a hard time deciding 1781 02:08:00,743 --> 02:08:03,503 this. I totally agree, councilor. Dougherty. Do you have a 1782 02:08:03,503 --> 02:08:08,889 thought on this? Yes. Thank you. So I was coming 1783 02:08:08,889 --> 02:08:13,304 around to the same conclusion that. We need to just 1784 02:08:13,304 --> 02:08:15,944 refer this. It's becoming a little bit more complicated than 1785 02:08:15,944 --> 02:08:20,024 it first. Appeared. I like to refer it back to 1786 02:08:20,024 --> 02:08:27,855 staff. To review specifically. The fees associated with. This commercial. 1787 02:08:28,528 --> 02:08:30,808 Category and see if we can come up with something 1788 02:08:30,808 --> 02:08:37,903 that might be a little bit. More equitable. And so 1789 02:08:37,903 --> 02:08:42,663 that the increase in fees would be retroactive to January 1790 02:08:42,663 --> 02:08:45,852 1. Because, of course, We're not going to be able 1791 02:08:45,852 --> 02:08:51,633 to approve it. Before that time. So I just have 1792 02:08:51,633 --> 02:08:56,332 a clarification. Click. Almost. Can we do retroactive? These. Thank 1793 02:08:56,332 --> 02:08:59,852 you. Thank you. Thanks for your worship, I would agree. 1794 02:08:59,852 --> 02:09:03,092 I would support passing the motion. As provided with the 1795 02:09:03,092 --> 02:09:07,452 notice motion that it be reviewed for further consideration for 1796 02:09:07,452 --> 02:09:11,852 the Georgia squall group and staff information. We would report 1797 02:09:11,852 --> 02:09:15,332 back in January, and then if a council supports a 1798 02:09:15,332 --> 02:09:19,540 decision being made. We can make it retroactive. So under 1799 02:09:19,540 --> 02:09:24,771 that. We would not pass anything to do with pool 1800 02:09:24,771 --> 02:09:28,392 fees today. We would just not implement them until we 1801 02:09:28,392 --> 02:09:34,960 hear back those two. Fees, okay? Does everyone need further 1802 02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:42,092 explanation? Okay, so that's a notice of motion. And then 1803 02:09:42,092 --> 02:09:50,889 request to waive, of course. Right. Yeah. Okay. So. 1804 02:09:52,324 --> 02:09:56,238 I guess we should deal with that. The bylaw just 1805 02:09:56,238 --> 02:10:00,118 for pool fees. Yeah, okay, but this is an amendment 1806 02:10:00,118 --> 02:10:05,044 to that. Inducement. Okay. All right, so what we're going 1807 02:10:05,044 --> 02:10:10,042 to do now? Is what I read out previously, which 1808 02:10:10,042 --> 02:10:13,002 is just the pool fees, and then we're going. To 1809 02:10:13,002 --> 02:10:17,130 do an amendment to that. Technically amendment. We'll do a 1810 02:10:17,130 --> 02:10:19,930 motion to wait notice to say not the fees till 1811 02:10:19,930 --> 02:10:23,170 we hear about. Okay. All right. Did everyone hear that? 1812 02:10:23,170 --> 02:10:28,865 Is that okay? Okay. All those in favor? Okay, unanimous. 1813 02:10:28,865 --> 02:10:35,066 And then. The amendment to that motion, then is. To 1814 02:10:35,066 --> 02:10:42,220 have. To hold the fee increase for the commercial category 1815 02:10:42,220 --> 02:10:47,127 and request staff. To review that category and come back 1816 02:10:47,127 --> 02:10:55,176 with recommendations. That. May see. More a changed or more 1817 02:10:55,176 --> 02:11:00,496 equitable fee structure based on the nature of the organizations. 1818 02:11:00,496 --> 02:11:05,120 Okay. And we've asked for a waiving of motion. Reading 1819 02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:13,345 of notice of motion. Pardon? Yes. Okay. She's seconding waving 1820 02:11:13,345 --> 02:11:17,562 of notice. Okay. Any comment? No. We don't need to 1821 02:11:17,562 --> 02:11:22,492 comment. All those in favor? Okay, unanimous. And then the 1822 02:11:22,492 --> 02:11:26,092 motion itself. All those in favor? Unless there's comments? Yes, 1823 02:11:26,092 --> 02:11:29,626 go ahead. Sure. I thought that I heard the clerk 1824 02:11:29,626 --> 02:11:31,506 say that she would want to add that the fees 1825 02:11:31,506 --> 02:11:36,428 not be posted until staff come back. Not being pulled, 1826 02:11:36,428 --> 02:11:43,006 not be imposed, okay? And just. This is commercial category 1827 02:11:43,006 --> 02:11:47,556 for the pool, correct? Yes. And geo, did you have 1828 02:11:47,556 --> 02:11:50,694 a comment? Thank you. Through the chair. I was going 1829 02:11:50,694 --> 02:11:54,254 to ask for the same clarification commercial category. For the 1830 02:11:54,254 --> 02:12:00,122 pool. Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? Seconder was councilor 1831 02:12:00,122 --> 02:12:05,969 Jeffrey. Yeah. All those in favor? And that's unanimous. Thank 1832 02:12:05,969 --> 02:12:13,038 you. Thank you for coming. All right, next item. Departmental 1833 02:12:13,038 --> 02:12:16,718 updates. Executive director Peg is going to speak to us 1834 02:12:16,718 --> 02:12:23,916 about Simcoe. County recycling changes. Over to you. Thank you, 1835 02:12:23,916 --> 02:12:26,916 Mayor Hamlin. So council in the community would have received 1836 02:12:26,916 --> 02:12:29,316 a memorandum as part of the package, but I am 1837 02:12:29,316 --> 02:12:33,177 going to provide a summary of that information. And a 1838 02:12:33,177 --> 02:12:38,646 couple additional updates. So, effective January 1, 2026, residential recycling 1839 02:12:38,646 --> 02:12:42,166 collection across Simcoe county is going to be transitioning to 1840 02:12:42,166 --> 02:12:46,526 circular materials, which is a not for profit organization which 1841 02:12:46,526 --> 02:12:53,285 has been appointed under Ontario's. Extended producer responsibility framework. The 1842 02:12:53,285 --> 02:12:57,085 county will continue to manage garbage, organics and waste drop 1843 02:12:57,085 --> 02:12:59,925 off services, and there are no changes to those programs. 1844 02:13:01,772 --> 02:13:06,132 Because recycling is currently a county managed service, the transition 1845 02:13:06,132 --> 02:13:08,812 to circular materials is being led by the county of 1846 02:13:08,812 --> 02:13:13,572 Simcoe, with the town of Collingwood supporting and amplifying communications 1847 02:13:13,572 --> 02:13:18,599 locally. The county has implemented quite a robust, phased communication 1848 02:13:18,599 --> 02:13:22,679 strategy to help ensure that residents across the county including 1849 02:13:22,679 --> 02:13:26,959 our own and our businesses are informed of the changes. 1850 02:13:26,959 --> 02:13:32,359 This includes social media, radio, advertising, news releases online resources 1851 02:13:32,359 --> 02:13:36,696 as well as direct outreach and businesses. Have received targeted 1852 02:13:36,696 --> 02:13:42,156 communication through mailers, emails and in person visits. The county 1853 02:13:42,156 --> 02:13:47,596 has reported that in Collingwood, specifically, 177 businesses identified as 1854 02:13:47,596 --> 02:13:52,396 receiving curb side recycling have been contacted directly by county 1855 02:13:52,396 --> 02:13:56,716 staff through in person visits, emails and phone calls. The 1856 02:13:56,716 --> 02:14:00,914 town has shared county updates through our social media. Our 1857 02:14:00,914 --> 02:14:07,271 website newsletters, including our economic development newsletter. Radio municipal digital 1858 02:14:07,271 --> 02:14:11,181 displays and ads within Collingwood today. While also working closely 1859 02:14:11,181 --> 02:14:15,620 with our local bia. We direct residents to the county's 1860 02:14:15,620 --> 02:14:20,839 recycling transition site. And service. Collingwood is also actively responding 1861 02:14:20,839 --> 02:14:24,914 to any questions as they come in. Looking ahead. Communications 1862 02:14:24,914 --> 02:14:29,194 will continue through our radio campaigns. Mobile signage at key 1863 02:14:29,194 --> 02:14:33,371 town entrances. Social media, and we'll continue to post reminders 1864 02:14:33,371 --> 02:14:38,248 after January 1. Operationally, the impact to our town facilities 1865 02:14:38,248 --> 02:14:43,088 is minimal. We have shared bulk recycling bins already. In 1866 02:14:43,088 --> 02:14:46,533 place at key locations. And additional capacity has been added. 1867 02:14:48,164 --> 02:14:51,644 Where we've proactively identified a potential need and staff will 1868 02:14:51,644 --> 02:14:54,844 continue to monitor the usage to determine if larger bins 1869 02:14:54,844 --> 02:14:59,559 are required. The county of Simcoe also recently shared with 1870 02:14:59,559 --> 02:15:04,639 the public their new 2026 tonnage rates which include new 1871 02:15:04,639 --> 02:15:08,479 rates for blue box recyclables. These rates are now posted 1872 02:15:08,479 --> 02:15:13,239 on their website, but it's $200 a ton or $10 1873 02:15:13,239 --> 02:15:16,666 minimum fee. In order to have the most up to 1874 02:15:16,666 --> 02:15:21,586 date information. We continue to encourage those impacted or interested. 1875 02:15:23,045 --> 02:15:27,365 To visit and monitor the county's website at Simco, CA. 1876 02:15:27,365 --> 02:15:29,965 It is a great resource lots of up to date 1877 02:15:29,965 --> 02:15:33,560 information on what's changing, what to expect. They have a 1878 02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:38,960 lengthy, frequently asked questions. There's business specific information and much 1879 02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:43,614 more. We did request a county Simco representative to attend 1880 02:15:43,614 --> 02:15:48,561 council this afternoon. Unfortunately, they were not available, but certainly 1881 02:15:48,561 --> 02:15:51,881 did commit to assist with any follow up questions that 1882 02:15:51,881 --> 02:15:54,921 council may have should we not be able to address 1883 02:15:54,921 --> 02:15:58,721 them. So thank you, Mayor Hamlin, that is. The overview. 1884 02:16:00,023 --> 02:16:05,968 Thank you. Questions, Councilor Jeffrey. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. So 1885 02:16:05,968 --> 02:16:09,741 the questions I've been getting, people want to confirm. Number 1886 02:16:09,741 --> 02:16:11,781 one. It'll be the same as always. It'll be every 1887 02:16:11,781 --> 02:16:16,160 other week. Alternated. With the garbage. Number two I noticed 1888 02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:21,310 in the county. Calendar. Online calendar that recycling is no 1889 02:16:21,310 --> 02:16:26,861 longer included in their calendar for pickup. And the deputy 1890 02:16:26,861 --> 02:16:29,661 mayor was kind enough to follow up for me that 1891 02:16:29,661 --> 02:16:33,461 the new company for recycling will have their own calendar. 1892 02:16:33,461 --> 02:16:35,421 So now our residents will have to go to two 1893 02:16:35,421 --> 02:16:39,301 calendars to ensure. Is there a way that the town 1894 02:16:39,301 --> 02:16:43,498 of Collingwood, at least for our residents, I know. The 1895 02:16:43,498 --> 02:16:46,258 problem is, nobody wants to take responsibility if the other 1896 02:16:46,258 --> 02:16:49,258 person changes their calendar and. Then people have their garbage 1897 02:16:49,258 --> 02:16:51,098 out and it doesn't get picked up or something. I 1898 02:16:51,098 --> 02:16:55,018 don't. Know, but I just know this is really complicated. 1899 02:16:55,018 --> 02:16:57,458 You might seem simple to us, but. For residents. They 1900 02:16:57,458 --> 02:16:59,578 just want to know the basics and they want to 1901 02:16:59,578 --> 02:17:03,258 know how to get the information easily without reading. A 1902 02:17:03,258 --> 02:17:11,471 hole. Thing on the county website. Yes, go ahead. Thank 1903 02:17:11,471 --> 02:17:13,831 you, Mayor through to Councilor Jeffrey. So you are correct 1904 02:17:13,831 --> 02:17:16,551 that the dates and time for pickup for recyclables is 1905 02:17:16,551 --> 02:17:18,871 not changing. It will just be picked up by circular. 1906 02:17:18,871 --> 02:17:22,471 Materials as opposed to the county of Simcoe. In addition, 1907 02:17:22,471 --> 02:17:25,911 happy to look at our calendars. Online or information that 1908 02:17:25,911 --> 02:17:27,911 we might be able to post. At least people may 1909 02:17:27,911 --> 02:17:30,591 have a one stop shop for the dates and times 1910 02:17:30,591 --> 02:17:35,251 or. At least provide whatever the county is promoting. Thank 1911 02:17:35,251 --> 02:17:38,291 you. That would be great. Thank you, Councilor Potts. Thanks, 1912 02:17:38,291 --> 02:17:44,195 Mary. I have a question. Potentially through to director peg. 1913 02:17:45,721 --> 02:17:48,739 Is there ever potentially an opportunity? And I'm thinking of 1914 02:17:48,739 --> 02:17:54,587 the Bia and the downtown businesses that. They could. Have 1915 02:17:54,587 --> 02:17:57,627 a centralized location, whether they're in a partnership with the 1916 02:17:57,627 --> 02:18:00,267 town, to go through, like a third party company to 1917 02:18:00,267 --> 02:18:03,218 be able to collect. And I'll use something like, say, 1918 02:18:03,218 --> 02:18:05,858 Miller's or somebody like that. That's. In the business that 1919 02:18:05,858 --> 02:18:10,516 can actually. Maybe pick up from there. And go and 1920 02:18:10,516 --> 02:18:12,556 how that all works, but I just find it's going 1921 02:18:12,556 --> 02:18:18,372 to be such a. Huge inconvenience. And an overall kind 1922 02:18:18,372 --> 02:18:21,092 of in this together, and it's really unknown, but is 1923 02:18:21,092 --> 02:18:25,252 there any discussions or any potential opportunity that there could 1924 02:18:25,252 --> 02:18:30,012 be a centralized location within the municipality, somewhere where they 1925 02:18:30,012 --> 02:18:34,474 can get stuff to and then. Have it transported from 1926 02:18:34,474 --> 02:18:39,460 there to Lentville. Yes, executive director. Thank your worship. Through 1927 02:18:39,460 --> 02:18:42,660 to councilor Potts. It's a great suggestion. It's something that 1928 02:18:42,660 --> 02:18:45,420 director Valentine and I have had on our radar, and 1929 02:18:45,420 --> 02:18:48,340 it's actually placed in our department heads agenda tomorrow to 1930 02:18:48,340 --> 02:18:50,020 see if there might be an opportunity for us. To 1931 02:18:50,020 --> 02:18:53,467 explore that type of thinking further. Just a follow up, 1932 02:18:53,467 --> 02:18:58,669 if I may. I just look at however many businesses, 1933 02:18:58,669 --> 02:19:02,629 let's say 400, that are all facing the challenges. Of 1934 02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:06,208 the recycling. And I just think if it's something that 1935 02:19:06,208 --> 02:19:08,728 we can make along with some of the other facilities. 1936 02:19:10,058 --> 02:19:14,818 Just to see how that would roll out. Because. This 1937 02:19:14,818 --> 02:19:16,578 does not make any sense at all to me. At 1938 02:19:16,578 --> 02:19:19,578 all. And I just think that if there's anything we 1939 02:19:19,578 --> 02:19:22,018 can do, even for the first year or two. Or 1940 02:19:22,018 --> 02:19:24,138 even the first. Year to roll something out to work 1941 02:19:24,138 --> 02:19:29,425 with the businesses and the other impacted. Areas. I think 1942 02:19:29,425 --> 02:19:33,305 it would be something that. Would be certainly an asset. 1943 02:19:33,305 --> 02:19:36,945 So looking forward to report back, councilor Paynes. Thank you, 1944 02:19:36,945 --> 02:19:41,105 mayor. Hamlin through you again to Ed. Peg, do you 1945 02:19:41,105 --> 02:19:44,065 happen to know getting into the weeds on this. Whether 1946 02:19:44,065 --> 02:19:49,232 circulate Ontario. Sorry, that's the new organization. At any rate, 1947 02:19:49,232 --> 02:19:52,232 whether they have their own trucks or whether they're contracting. 1948 02:19:54,015 --> 02:19:57,015 To someone else, whether it's Miller or whomever, just out 1949 02:19:57,015 --> 02:19:58,855 of interest for that and. Then I'll have another comment. 1950 02:19:58,855 --> 02:20:02,344 Thank you. Yeah, go ahead. Thank your worship. I don't 1951 02:20:02,344 --> 02:20:04,264 want to speak out of turn. I don't have those 1952 02:20:04,264 --> 02:20:08,580 technical details, we can certainly look to find out. I 1953 02:20:08,580 --> 02:20:11,780 understand that circular materials has purchased the bins from the 1954 02:20:11,780 --> 02:20:15,580 county, Simcoe, but I'm. Not sure about the trucks. We 1955 02:20:15,580 --> 02:20:19,104 shall see. But. To my colleague to my right, here's 1956 02:20:19,104 --> 02:20:24,344 comment about that and to critics of municipalities who are 1957 02:20:24,344 --> 02:20:27,384 advancing into areas which is not their core mandate, such 1958 02:20:27,384 --> 02:20:30,824 as what we've just discussed. Here. There's a reason. Because 1959 02:20:30,824 --> 02:20:33,384 other levels of government, for whatever reason, seem to have 1960 02:20:33,384 --> 02:20:36,264 been stepping back from this, and it's left to the 1961 02:20:36,264 --> 02:20:39,195 poor little municipality to pick up the. Pieces. Thank you. 1962 02:20:39,195 --> 02:20:44,862 That's editorial comment. Deputy Mayor Fryer thank you, Mayor Hamlin. 1963 02:20:44,862 --> 02:20:47,462 And I've been listening to this for a year and 1964 02:20:47,462 --> 02:20:50,302 a half and nothing simple about it. It's so much 1965 02:20:50,302 --> 02:20:53,942 more complicated than it really should be, in my opinion, 1966 02:20:53,942 --> 02:20:59,182 and I do believe that Simcoe counties done best effort 1967 02:20:59,182 --> 02:21:03,461 to try to help guide. The change over to be 1968 02:21:03,461 --> 02:21:07,701 as seamless as possible. But unfortunately, the reality is so 1969 02:21:07,701 --> 02:21:09,741 the first thing I wanted to say how much I 1970 02:21:09,741 --> 02:21:13,981 appreciate our staff in Simple county. Staff? Our staff are. 1971 02:21:13,981 --> 02:21:18,838 Working in conjunction. And. They're talking about. They already mentioned 1972 02:21:18,838 --> 02:21:21,198 about a couple of steps they're doing to help out. 1973 02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:28,635 With. The increased. Bin space. In that they're providing direct 1974 02:21:28,635 --> 02:21:34,919 info. To the residents. And providing that conduit to the 1975 02:21:34,919 --> 02:21:37,799 Simcoe county site because they are the waste service. Provider, 1976 02:21:37,799 --> 02:21:40,599 and they're the ones who are responsible for it and 1977 02:21:40,599 --> 02:21:44,860 such. The things that we're just going to also comment 1978 02:21:44,860 --> 02:21:49,758 on, I do believe. The trucks that we're picking up 1979 02:21:49,758 --> 02:21:55,881 are by a company by the name Mtira. Circular materials 1980 02:21:55,881 --> 02:22:00,517 has taken on the contract from the PRo. And an 1981 02:22:00,517 --> 02:22:03,437 emptyer, I believe, is the corporate company that's picking up. 1982 02:22:05,262 --> 02:22:06,862 I'd be great if we can come up with an 1983 02:22:06,862 --> 02:22:15,127 ICI alternative. It's unfortunate that. We had to be in 1984 02:22:15,127 --> 02:22:17,327 this position where it's going to be implemented in just 1985 02:22:17,327 --> 02:22:21,570 a few weeks. But the reality was county was still 1986 02:22:21,570 --> 02:22:26,269 trying to work it out. With circular materials about doing 1987 02:22:26,269 --> 02:22:29,989 the pickups. And the one other thing I'll comment on. 1988 02:22:29,989 --> 02:22:35,666 It does talk about. And director Peg mentioned this, ed. 1989 02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:43,830 Peg mentioned this. Anybody who's taking recycling to the depot. 1990 02:22:45,549 --> 02:22:50,957 At the landfill site. There is a $10 minimum. What's 1991 02:22:50,957 --> 02:22:56,563 supposed to happen. Is. The condominium areas that we had 1992 02:22:56,563 --> 02:23:01,452 who we couldn't do curbside pickup if. They took. They 1993 02:23:01,452 --> 02:23:04,372 were delivering it to the site over these past few 1994 02:23:04,372 --> 02:23:08,115 years. They didn't. Have to pay anything. And technically, they're 1995 02:23:08,115 --> 02:23:11,224 not supposed to have to pay going forward either. But 1996 02:23:11,224 --> 02:23:15,304 it's up to circular materials to provide the alternative for 1997 02:23:15,304 --> 02:23:19,790 them to have a site. To drop off. And to 1998 02:23:19,790 --> 02:23:22,679 our knowledge. We still have not got anything worked out 1999 02:23:22,679 --> 02:23:27,319 on that. So if circular material says it's in Berry, 2000 02:23:27,319 --> 02:23:30,399 the likelihood is that somebody, if they're going to recycle, 2001 02:23:30,399 --> 02:23:33,551 is going to go to the site and. They're going 2002 02:23:33,551 --> 02:23:35,831 to have to pay. And even though they had been 2003 02:23:35,831 --> 02:23:42,062 getting the service, Because. Simple. County couldn't deliver it because 2004 02:23:42,062 --> 02:23:46,740 the curbside pickup wasn't available. So again, I just want 2005 02:23:46,740 --> 02:23:51,800 to thank stuff. It's a complicated thing. Coming forward on 2006 02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:56,509 January the first. And I really appreciate all the efforts. 2007 02:23:56,509 --> 02:23:59,173 I do believe. We're doing the best job we can 2008 02:23:59,173 --> 02:24:01,613 on getting the message out there and trying to come 2009 02:24:01,613 --> 02:24:05,659 up with any alternatives we can, so thank you. Thank 2010 02:24:05,659 --> 02:24:11,543 you. I have a couple of questions. Executive directory. You 2011 02:24:11,543 --> 02:24:15,823 mentioned there were 177 businesses affected. Does this include the 2012 02:24:15,823 --> 02:24:20,560 institutional users, do you think? Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. That's 2013 02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:23,120 something we definitely have to confirm with the county, but. 2014 02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:26,120 Happy to follow up with them. Okay. And it struck 2015 02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:28,920 me that this is a lot less than the membership 2016 02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:34,281 in the bia. This is what's on my mind. If 2017 02:24:34,281 --> 02:24:43,121 this. Is primarily bia members. Assuming. Wondering whether the Bi 2018 02:24:43,121 --> 02:24:46,721 might be the one best suited to a range collection 2019 02:24:46,721 --> 02:24:49,401 for their members. So I'll just leave that with you 2020 02:24:49,401 --> 02:24:54,089 for your thoughts, okay? Any other comments? Yes, councilor Dougherty. 2021 02:24:56,154 --> 02:25:05,343 Thank you. So as everybody. Has already. Expressed. This is 2022 02:25:05,343 --> 02:25:14,061 a major setback. For. Our objective to achieve some sort 2023 02:25:14,061 --> 02:25:20,785 of. Circular economy. And to have a waste management system 2024 02:25:20,785 --> 02:25:26,249 that's more sustainable, so. But we're not alone. It's 444 2025 02:25:26,249 --> 02:25:32,838 municipalities are facing the same complications. And I can provide 2026 02:25:32,838 --> 02:25:37,279 assurance to council that this is. A very high priority. 2027 02:25:38,682 --> 02:25:46,242 For amo to continue. To negotiate. With the province. To 2028 02:25:46,242 --> 02:25:52,621 ensure that. We can. Find a better solution than. What 2029 02:25:52,621 --> 02:25:56,074 we're facing right now. Thank you. Thank you for saying 2030 02:25:56,074 --> 02:25:59,523 that about amo. Because I was just going to say 2031 02:25:59,523 --> 02:26:03,651 the province dropped the ball here. And it was good 2032 02:26:03,651 --> 02:26:08,971 that they covered off our residential users, but there's. So 2033 02:26:08,971 --> 02:26:13,645 many commercial, industrial. Institutional users, so I'm glad Amos on 2034 02:26:13,645 --> 02:26:19,131 this. Thank you for letting us know. Okay. My thought 2035 02:26:19,131 --> 02:26:22,131 was to continue to about 05:00 does anyone need a 2036 02:26:22,131 --> 02:26:27,061 five minute break right? Now. Everyone's good to go. Okay, 2037 02:26:27,061 --> 02:26:30,461 so the next item on the agenda is the consent 2038 02:26:30,461 --> 02:26:35,995 agenda. The recommendation is that council received the general consent 2039 02:26:35,995 --> 02:26:41,195 agenda and note that the information and opinions provided are 2040 02:26:41,195 --> 02:26:43,915 those of the authors and are not verified or approved 2041 02:26:43,915 --> 02:26:50,105 as being correct. There's three items listed. One Tennis Canada 2042 02:26:50,105 --> 02:26:56,865 letter resupport for proposed tennis facility two Ontario Tennis association 2043 02:26:56,865 --> 02:27:02,323 letter resupport for proposed tennis facility. And three, five letters 2044 02:27:02,323 --> 02:27:05,803 regarding support for four way stop control at Cedar and 2045 02:27:05,803 --> 02:27:08,643 Third street. Could I. Get a mover in a seconder, 2046 02:27:08,643 --> 02:27:13,935 please. Deputy mayor, seconded by councilor Perry. All those in 2047 02:27:13,935 --> 02:27:17,455 favor? That's unanimous. Anyone want to pull any of these. 2048 02:27:18,634 --> 02:27:24,225 Okay seeing none. There are, I believe, three motions here. 2049 02:27:25,785 --> 02:27:30,261 This afternoon. So the first one is mine. So I'll 2050 02:27:30,261 --> 02:27:34,301 turn the chair over to the deputy mayor. Of course, 2051 02:27:34,301 --> 02:27:36,301 just to turn back to you, Mayor Hamlin, to read 2052 02:27:36,301 --> 02:27:39,221 it in, and then I will ask for a seconder 2053 02:27:39,221 --> 02:27:41,541 and ask if you want to speak first or last. 2054 02:27:41,541 --> 02:27:45,661 Thank you. Whereas the town of Collingwood community based strategic 2055 02:27:45,661 --> 02:27:51,742 plan prioritizes. Creating a safe and inclusive community, including enhancing 2056 02:27:51,742 --> 02:27:56,582 transportation safety for residents and visitors. Therefore, be a resolve 2057 02:27:56,582 --> 02:28:02,382 that council pass and enact bylaw 2025 87 to authorize 2058 02:28:02,382 --> 02:28:05,022 the installation of a four way stop sign at the 2059 02:28:05,022 --> 02:28:08,986 intersection of Cedar street and Third Street. And further, the 2060 02:28:08,986 --> 02:28:12,786 council request staff to develop a phased approach for additional 2061 02:28:12,786 --> 02:28:19,066 fourway stop intersections prioritizing school zones and community safety zone 2062 02:28:19,066 --> 02:28:22,386 zones and further, that these signs be funded through the 2063 02:28:22,386 --> 02:28:27,604 2026 traffic calming budget. And they'll ask, do you have 2064 02:28:27,604 --> 02:28:31,444 a seconder in mind? Or just turn to the floor. 2065 02:28:34,549 --> 02:28:38,309 So seconded by councilor Baines. And I will then ask, 2066 02:28:38,309 --> 02:28:40,749 do you want to speak? First or last, so you 2067 02:28:40,749 --> 02:28:46,166 go ahead. Thank you. This intersection is one where residents 2068 02:28:46,166 --> 02:28:49,406 have come to this chamber a number of times over 2069 02:28:49,406 --> 02:28:53,056 the. Going on. Eight years I've been sitting here asking 2070 02:28:53,056 --> 02:28:55,951 for a stop sign. This is not the first time, 2071 02:28:55,951 --> 02:28:59,871 and there have been numerous accidents and near misses, and 2072 02:28:59,871 --> 02:29:02,671 I think also, it's been explained to me this is 2073 02:29:02,671 --> 02:29:07,968 a particularly busy intersection. Because it links to our waterfront 2074 02:29:07,968 --> 02:29:11,448 park there. There's lights at First street, obviously, at cedar 2075 02:29:11,448 --> 02:29:19,582 and first, so. It's always particularly busy. I know. There 2076 02:29:19,582 --> 02:29:21,502 are. I think what I hear, it's the most common. 2077 02:29:21,502 --> 02:29:24,062 One of the most common. Complaints I hear from residents 2078 02:29:24,062 --> 02:29:26,382 is why don't we have four way stops everywhere? Because 2079 02:29:26,382 --> 02:29:32,159 it's not intuitive. For people driving to be paying attention, 2080 02:29:32,159 --> 02:29:35,279 which is, I know, a sad commentary on our drivers, 2081 02:29:35,279 --> 02:29:37,759 probably. Including me? No, I didn't need to say that. 2082 02:29:39,522 --> 02:29:41,762 But in any event, what I wanted to say is 2083 02:29:41,762 --> 02:29:45,402 this is a very common ask, and I think this 2084 02:29:45,402 --> 02:29:51,521 is an easy thing for us to address. With asking 2085 02:29:51,521 --> 02:29:53,681 also staff to look forward to the future of how. 2086 02:29:55,511 --> 02:30:00,553 We should address the rest of the community. After Abby, 2087 02:30:00,553 --> 02:30:03,313 who presented here today, mentioned she had written to me, 2088 02:30:03,313 --> 02:30:05,793 and she's written a few times and she wrote to 2089 02:30:05,793 --> 02:30:10,273 me after her, she presented today to say, to update, 2090 02:30:10,273 --> 02:30:13,113 she's, had a petition signed by people in Collingwood, and 2091 02:30:13,113 --> 02:30:15,633 today the number was at 462 and she meant to 2092 02:30:15,633 --> 02:30:18,153 say that, but forgot when she was up there, so 2093 02:30:18,153 --> 02:30:20,089 I'm just. Sharing that. And that's what I wanted to 2094 02:30:20,089 --> 02:30:24,569 say. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go to councilor Potts, 2095 02:30:24,569 --> 02:30:28,231 then. Thanks, Deputy Merrier. Fryer. I'm very supportive of the 2096 02:30:28,231 --> 02:30:33,075 four way stop in this location. The one part. I'm 2097 02:30:33,075 --> 02:30:36,691 challenging. I struggle with. Is a number of us members 2098 02:30:36,691 --> 02:30:39,291 of council have brought in the past six months to 2099 02:30:39,291 --> 02:30:42,091 a year. Brought a lot of different areas forward to 2100 02:30:42,091 --> 02:30:47,348 council. Through the town from residents, and it's always been 2101 02:30:47,348 --> 02:30:51,613 referred and kicked back to the MMTP. And. I look 2102 02:30:51,613 --> 02:30:54,053 at the point of, again, I'm very supportive of this, 2103 02:30:54,053 --> 02:30:56,893 but if I was one or two or three residents 2104 02:30:56,893 --> 02:31:00,373 on other streets who have been sitting patiently, waiting for 2105 02:31:00,373 --> 02:31:06,875 the advice that was given. For. An mtp. To come 2106 02:31:06,875 --> 02:31:09,591 back. I would think that it wouldn't be very comforting 2107 02:31:09,591 --> 02:31:14,781 for them. In the words of Councilor Baines, the precedent. 2108 02:31:16,471 --> 02:31:18,337 That. I just think it's. And again, I'm supportive of 2109 02:31:18,337 --> 02:31:21,137 it, but I would be. Interested to know as far 2110 02:31:21,137 --> 02:31:25,178 as this plan. I just don't think it's fair across 2111 02:31:25,178 --> 02:31:31,410 the town. To approve. Or specifically approve this one just 2112 02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:34,210 location because of the number of deputations when there's. Been 2113 02:31:34,210 --> 02:31:36,050 a lot of deputations come in from a lot of 2114 02:31:36,050 --> 02:31:38,890 different residents. From one end of the town to the 2115 02:31:38,890 --> 02:31:41,570 other. So where does that sit, as far as is 2116 02:31:41,570 --> 02:31:44,530 that going? To be a recommendation to staff is to 2117 02:31:44,530 --> 02:31:47,050 wait for the MMTP, or is this something that would 2118 02:31:47,050 --> 02:31:49,787 be a one off if. You will. So I don't 2119 02:31:49,787 --> 02:31:53,504 know who that goes. Maybe directory Alcoca. Or. I was 2120 02:31:53,504 --> 02:31:56,464 just going to say, councilor Potts, I think I'll direct 2121 02:31:56,464 --> 02:32:02,950 to. Cao Skinner and let her. Decide on response. Or 2122 02:32:02,950 --> 02:32:06,185 to other if you could, please. Thank you very much. 2123 02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:09,560 I am comfortable with this one going right to Director 2124 02:32:09,560 --> 02:32:13,411 Alcoca. Thank you for asking. Thank you, chair. So, to 2125 02:32:13,411 --> 02:32:23,261 everybody else. Yes. We have a stop sign 2126 02:32:23,261 --> 02:32:27,645 policy that we should be following. That's my first point. 2127 02:32:28,546 --> 02:32:31,346 I agree that request, direct request for stop sign should 2128 02:32:31,346 --> 02:32:35,503 follow a systematic approach, and that's why? We have a 2129 02:32:35,503 --> 02:32:38,543 master plan in the works that sets out how we 2130 02:32:38,543 --> 02:32:41,337 go about these things. What kind of warrants do you 2131 02:32:41,337 --> 02:32:43,737 want? What kind of studies? How can we justify it? 2132 02:32:45,352 --> 02:32:47,952 And I would recommend that we follow our own policies 2133 02:32:47,952 --> 02:32:51,872 that we're setting for requesting stop. Signs or traffic lights 2134 02:32:51,872 --> 02:32:56,650 or any other road feature we focus on. Creating the 2135 02:32:56,650 --> 02:32:59,530 road network as a network as a whole, not as 2136 02:32:59,530 --> 02:33:04,050 individual locations. And we really need to follow the engineering 2137 02:33:04,050 --> 02:33:07,415 principles of. Why would a subsign be installed on a 2138 02:33:07,415 --> 02:33:13,395 street rather than. Just by request. Before I go back 2139 02:33:13,395 --> 02:33:15,835 for follow up from councilor, do you want to add 2140 02:33:15,835 --> 02:33:23,295 anything now to. CEO Skinner. No, thank you. I know 2141 02:33:23,295 --> 02:33:29,953 that. There was a safety screening completed as part of 2142 02:33:29,953 --> 02:33:33,313 the Master Mobility and transportation plan, which we fondly call 2143 02:33:33,313 --> 02:33:37,033 the MMPP and it is slated to come back to 2144 02:33:37,033 --> 02:33:40,779 council with the final report. In the first quarter of 2145 02:33:40,779 --> 02:33:45,431 2026. Follow up council yeah. And just to follow. Thanks, 2146 02:33:45,431 --> 02:33:49,671 deputy mayor. So again, in this case, understanding the intersection, 2147 02:33:49,671 --> 02:33:53,693 understanding the history of a lot of things. And I 2148 02:33:53,693 --> 02:33:58,430 will support the motion. For a four way stop there. 2149 02:33:58,430 --> 02:34:03,120 But again, I'm really torn on it just simply because. 2150 02:34:06,191 --> 02:34:09,234 It just seems that. I don't want one intersection or 2151 02:34:09,234 --> 02:34:11,514 one area of town to take a precedent over some 2152 02:34:11,514 --> 02:34:14,994 or take over somewhere else, especially when there has been 2153 02:34:14,994 --> 02:34:17,834 a number of areas where continuously a number of residents 2154 02:34:17,834 --> 02:34:21,314 have come forward with concerns. But I do recognize this 2155 02:34:21,314 --> 02:34:25,390 intersection of seeing and witnessed my entire life here. Things 2156 02:34:25,390 --> 02:34:29,525 that have gone on there and. We'll continue to go 2157 02:34:29,525 --> 02:34:32,285 on, so I will support the mayor's motion on this. 2158 02:34:32,285 --> 02:34:40,311 Thanks. Okay. Anyone else? Okay, I'm going to turn to 2159 02:34:40,311 --> 02:34:44,031 councilor Baines and then councilor Jeffrey and. Then anybody on 2160 02:34:44,031 --> 02:34:47,551 this site. Thank you. Vice chair. Then I suppose to 2161 02:34:47,551 --> 02:34:51,831 director Akoka to follow. Up on my friend's point here. 2162 02:34:51,831 --> 02:34:56,191 Will the MMTP then address specifically as a policy matter? 2163 02:34:57,918 --> 02:35:01,398 On streets in Collingwood, four way stops and when and 2164 02:35:01,398 --> 02:35:10,384 where they would be recommended. Yes. 2165 02:35:12,597 --> 02:35:15,477 Sweet studies. The traffic safety studies will look at every 2166 02:35:15,477 --> 02:35:18,877 intersection, and if they're not specifically looked at already. We 2167 02:35:18,877 --> 02:35:21,797 have a mechanism to look at them, and the idea 2168 02:35:21,797 --> 02:35:28,386 is that if the road requires. Based on traffic counts, 2169 02:35:28,386 --> 02:35:32,386 based on incident reports, based on turning movers. Requires a 2170 02:35:32,386 --> 02:35:35,066 four way stop. Sign, then it's a four way stop 2171 02:35:35,066 --> 02:35:37,386 sign will be installed. But if it does not. Require 2172 02:35:37,386 --> 02:35:40,066 a forward stop sign. Then we will install what is 2173 02:35:40,066 --> 02:35:45,932 required. The two way or something else. Thank you. No 2174 02:35:45,932 --> 02:35:49,889 follow up. Okay. Councilor Jeffrey. Go ahead. Then I suppose 2175 02:35:49,889 --> 02:35:53,769 you have brought that up. I'm assuming then the intersection 2176 02:35:53,769 --> 02:35:57,849 of third and cedar qualify for your definition of a 2177 02:35:57,849 --> 02:36:00,995 four way stop. At the moment. I don't have a 2178 02:36:00,995 --> 02:36:03,715 direct answer for that. I need to have it. Go 2179 02:36:03,715 --> 02:36:13,166 through the process of studying the warrants. Anything further. Councilor 2180 02:36:13,166 --> 02:36:19,362 jeffrey. So. Thank you, Jeff. So I'd ask that these 2181 02:36:19,362 --> 02:36:25,478 be severed out. And I do have a problem going 2182 02:36:25,478 --> 02:36:31,816 outside. Of the process in terms of the stop signs. 2183 02:36:33,752 --> 02:36:37,992 We start assuming personal or council liability for making these 2184 02:36:37,992 --> 02:36:41,683 decisions without. The professional backup. And there's no doubt in 2185 02:36:41,683 --> 02:36:45,923 my mind. I mean, I remember asking director, McDonald when 2186 02:36:45,923 --> 02:36:49,203 he was here. Could we not put a flashing red 2187 02:36:49,203 --> 02:36:52,603 sign or whatever like they have? At county road two 2188 02:36:52,603 --> 02:36:56,814 and 41. And he said, I can't. I can't do 2189 02:36:56,814 --> 02:37:01,974 that because of whatever's in place with. The things that 2190 02:37:01,974 --> 02:37:05,134 legislate us on our streets, just trying to make that 2191 02:37:05,134 --> 02:37:09,302 corner. More visible in terms of getting people to stop 2192 02:37:09,302 --> 02:37:14,135 at that stop sign. So I've been trying since. Before 2193 02:37:14,135 --> 02:37:17,135 the mares time to do something for the corner, but 2194 02:37:17,135 --> 02:37:20,495 I'm just not sure. About going around the process we 2195 02:37:20,495 --> 02:37:24,451 put in place. Otherwise, we're going to have everyone. I 2196 02:37:24,451 --> 02:37:26,131 mean, my daughter in law and son got hit at 2197 02:37:26,131 --> 02:37:32,437 that corner. Ten years ago. So I understand. The emotions 2198 02:37:32,437 --> 02:37:38,422 that go with that. But. I have difficulty on this 2199 02:37:38,422 --> 02:37:43,286 one going around. That staff process. We're going to go 2200 02:37:43,286 --> 02:37:50,101 with councilor Dougherty and then councilor ring. Thank you. Actually. 2201 02:37:51,380 --> 02:37:53,780 I was going to suggest the same thing, that we 2202 02:37:53,780 --> 02:38:00,180 sever the two. I don't like to move outside of 2203 02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:06,363 the process. However, the need at this particular intersection is 2204 02:38:06,363 --> 02:38:11,988 so glaring. That. I can't believe that we'd be making 2205 02:38:11,988 --> 02:38:15,666 any kind of a mistake. By putting a four way 2206 02:38:15,666 --> 02:38:19,266 stop at that intersection, so I absolutely will support that. 2207 02:38:20,891 --> 02:38:27,563 But regarding. Further implementation of four way stops. I really 2208 02:38:27,563 --> 02:38:33,455 would like to continue. To have that referred to the 2209 02:38:33,455 --> 02:38:38,373 Master transportation plan. I think we're going to see that 2210 02:38:38,373 --> 02:38:43,652 in the first quarter, if I can. Ask through you, 2211 02:38:43,652 --> 02:38:48,212 deputy mayor to director Alcoca, first quarter of next year. 2212 02:38:49,758 --> 02:38:53,318 I think for certain we will have the one report. 2213 02:38:54,531 --> 02:38:57,291 That CEO Skinner referred to that they were targeting for 2214 02:38:57,291 --> 02:39:02,091 first quarter, I'm not sure about. The MMTP. So maybe 2215 02:39:02,091 --> 02:39:06,531 through you see Hoskin. Thank you. I will ask Director 2216 02:39:06,531 --> 02:39:08,851 Alcoca. To respond to that one, but I do believe. 2217 02:39:10,550 --> 02:39:13,230 I was speaking about the MMTP, and that's also the 2218 02:39:13,230 --> 02:39:17,276 one you're speaking. About. Yes. The mftv within the first 2219 02:39:17,276 --> 02:39:23,093 quarter? Yes. So therefore, we're not waiting long. And I 2220 02:39:23,093 --> 02:39:31,234 know generally that our community. Is looking for. This master 2221 02:39:31,234 --> 02:39:38,917 plan with great anticipation. Thank you, Councilor Ring. Some of 2222 02:39:38,917 --> 02:39:45,692 the questions were just answered. That I was going to 2223 02:39:45,692 --> 02:39:50,326 have. I know it's a bad intersection because I grew 2224 02:39:50,326 --> 02:39:55,206 up with Cedar street, so I know. Firsthand, but it's 2225 02:39:55,206 --> 02:39:58,486 also on Third street, where there's not a stop sign. 2226 02:39:58,486 --> 02:40:00,686 From Birch street to Spruce street either. There you go. 2227 02:40:00,686 --> 02:40:05,747 Five blocks there. So. Are we going to put a 2228 02:40:05,747 --> 02:40:09,347 four way stop there? And then the residents at Oak 2229 02:40:09,347 --> 02:40:13,493 street say we need one. And then after that. Walnut 2230 02:40:13,493 --> 02:40:19,722 street. We've got a master plan. Study in the works 2231 02:40:19,722 --> 02:40:22,202 right now, and hopefully it is ready for us in 2232 02:40:22,202 --> 02:40:26,298 the first quarter. I'm kind of torn here because it 2233 02:40:26,298 --> 02:40:28,378 wouldn't bother me to put a four way. Stop there. 2234 02:40:28,378 --> 02:40:35,183 But should we not do it right? All at once. 2235 02:40:38,077 --> 02:40:41,117 Especially along Third street that's designated. It's going to be 2236 02:40:41,117 --> 02:40:45,409 designated as a collector. And that's probably the reason why 2237 02:40:45,409 --> 02:40:50,692 there's so few stop signs. Maybe the mmtp is going 2238 02:40:50,692 --> 02:40:55,893 to. Say something different about Third street than we already 2239 02:40:55,893 --> 02:40:59,373 have. I don't know. I could support. The stop signs 2240 02:40:59,373 --> 02:41:01,293 there. I just want to know. We just went through 2241 02:41:01,293 --> 02:41:08,530 the same process with another. Street. That. Neighbors have complained 2242 02:41:08,530 --> 02:41:15,431 about more than once. On, Stanley. And we did the 2243 02:41:15,431 --> 02:41:18,989 traffic studies and found that. They didn't even meet the 2244 02:41:18,989 --> 02:41:23,152 policy to put a stop sign there. So is that 2245 02:41:23,152 --> 02:41:26,378 something we should do here first? Like I said, I 2246 02:41:26,378 --> 02:41:28,338 could support putting a four way there now, but I 2247 02:41:28,338 --> 02:41:33,405 just want to say. That. Is this going to be 2248 02:41:33,405 --> 02:41:37,085 an ongoing thing? Until we get the master plan done, 2249 02:41:37,085 --> 02:41:41,089 I think I could help if I. 'm going to 2250 02:41:41,089 --> 02:41:42,929 turn to councilor McCullough, and I was going to say, 2251 02:41:42,929 --> 02:41:46,169 Mayor Hamlin. Since we didn't have this at Community hall, 2252 02:41:46,169 --> 02:41:47,929 I am going to turn back. To you and let 2253 02:41:47,929 --> 02:41:50,249 you have some further comment, because I am expecting I'll 2254 02:41:50,249 --> 02:41:54,009 do the same with some of the members, too. So, 2255 02:41:54,009 --> 02:41:59,419 councilor McCullough. Thank you, chair. Excuse me. Two points. I 2256 02:41:59,419 --> 02:42:03,739 was going to reference the Stanley street discussion. That was 2257 02:42:03,739 --> 02:42:07,126 quite recent. But in my mind. And where this one 2258 02:42:07,126 --> 02:42:11,440 differentiates itself. Is that there's a history of ongoing incident 2259 02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:14,320 sets at this location, as opposed to a perception that 2260 02:42:14,320 --> 02:42:17,120 it might be dangerous from people who live there. And 2261 02:42:17,120 --> 02:42:19,600 I think those are two very different things. So we 2262 02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:22,080 have an incident. We've had a history of incidents, and 2263 02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:25,680 I think behooves us to take action, and if it 2264 02:42:25,680 --> 02:42:28,840 needs to be changed once we have a master transportation 2265 02:42:28,840 --> 02:42:32,079 plan. And it can be changed or modified or improved. 2266 02:42:32,079 --> 02:42:34,519 That's great, but I think this is different where we 2267 02:42:34,519 --> 02:42:37,399 have neighbors asking for things because of their perception of 2268 02:42:37,399 --> 02:42:40,199 a condition, of a road. Or the safety, so that 2269 02:42:40,199 --> 02:42:45,296 was one point. Yeah. And then slightly off topic but 2270 02:42:45,296 --> 02:42:48,710 related. I have a concern that we'll have the MMT 2271 02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:50,950 in our hands in Q one. And it will have 2272 02:42:50,950 --> 02:42:54,470 lots of recommendations, and I'm not sure that we will 2273 02:42:54,470 --> 02:42:57,710 have the resources or budget to implement those in a 2274 02:42:57,710 --> 02:43:00,910 timely manner. So is that a constraint that we will 2275 02:43:00,910 --> 02:43:03,950 see next year when we go to implement the MMTP. 2276 02:43:05,700 --> 02:43:14,495 Are you directing that question? Okay. Director Alcoca then. That's 2277 02:43:14,495 --> 02:43:18,305 a big question. Yes, there would be a lot of 2278 02:43:18,305 --> 02:43:25,230 recommendations, and part of the discussion. And. The feedback that 2279 02:43:25,230 --> 02:43:29,792 we require from everybody. Will help us set the priorities 2280 02:43:29,792 --> 02:43:32,912 of what to be implemented. First, in terms of recommendation. 2281 02:43:34,457 --> 02:43:43,683 Any follow up account. No, thank you. So, Mayor Hamlin, 2282 02:43:43,683 --> 02:43:45,483 do you want to add some further comments? Yeah, I 2283 02:43:45,483 --> 02:43:49,043 just thought to make it easy. I'll just suggest because 2284 02:43:49,043 --> 02:43:53,238 I'm not opposed to a deferral. Of the two further 2285 02:43:53,238 --> 02:43:58,070 that clauses. So, in other words, my motion today would 2286 02:43:58,070 --> 02:44:01,510 just be resolved that we put the four way stop. 2287 02:44:01,510 --> 02:44:04,350 At cedar in third and that the phased approach and 2288 02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:12,236 the funding be deferred to. The mmtp discussions. Happy with 2289 02:44:12,236 --> 02:44:19,308 that. Through to the clerk, then. Can that be done 2290 02:44:19,308 --> 02:44:23,698 as a friendly amendment? If the second. Secondary approval of 2291 02:44:23,698 --> 02:44:27,802 that, or do we need. To deal with emotion as 2292 02:44:27,802 --> 02:44:34,450 it's been circulated. Should be severed right now. So we 2293 02:44:34,450 --> 02:44:36,650 can deal with first one and then we get the 2294 02:44:36,650 --> 02:44:39,930 other. Ones get the motion to defer them and they 2295 02:44:39,930 --> 02:44:47,596 can be combined together. All right, so. I am going 2296 02:44:47,596 --> 02:44:49,636 to come back to councilor putts and then pick councilor 2297 02:44:49,636 --> 02:44:54,044 ring I think? Looks like. Thanks, Deputy Mary. And this 2298 02:44:54,044 --> 02:44:56,284 is just a follow up through you to director Okoka. 2299 02:44:58,475 --> 02:45:03,960 I don't really know exactly. How the determination. In the 2300 02:45:03,960 --> 02:45:07,846 engineering world comes with traffic counters, but. In that intersection 2301 02:45:07,846 --> 02:45:10,581 as well. I would think. There's a lot of other. 2302 02:45:12,215 --> 02:45:14,135 Things that might come into factor there, like sight lines. 2303 02:45:15,792 --> 02:45:20,459 And stuff as well. Again. Just me thinking. You put 2304 02:45:20,459 --> 02:45:23,219 a traffic counter down, you could have ten cars, you 2305 02:45:23,219 --> 02:45:26,099 could have. 2000 cars. But the history of the intersection 2306 02:45:26,099 --> 02:45:31,364 speaks for itself as far as. Incidents. Are the sight 2307 02:45:31,364 --> 02:45:33,844 lines. Has that been looked into as far as that 2308 02:45:33,844 --> 02:45:36,924 intersection? Because I do know that there are some challenging 2309 02:45:36,924 --> 02:45:39,244 corners on Third street coming on to Third from the 2310 02:45:39,244 --> 02:45:42,444 side streets. So I'm just wondering if that's been taken 2311 02:45:42,444 --> 02:45:45,604 into consideration as well, because I think that in that 2312 02:45:45,604 --> 02:45:50,885 area that plays. A big. Factor. If we decided to 2313 02:45:50,885 --> 02:45:53,445 do anything at this intersection, I will hire a specialized 2314 02:45:53,445 --> 02:45:56,245 consultant to look at. All of those things to look 2315 02:45:56,245 --> 02:46:01,485 at the incident history, traffic, movement, site lines, traffic counts. 2316 02:46:01,485 --> 02:46:04,725 We will specifically look at that intersection. And based on 2317 02:46:04,725 --> 02:46:12,652 that study, We'll have a recommendation, and that is something 2318 02:46:12,652 --> 02:46:15,212 that we probably can offer right away. Now. I can 2319 02:46:15,212 --> 02:46:18,932 initiate that study now if council chooses to direct us 2320 02:46:18,932 --> 02:46:22,194 this way. Can I respond to that when there's a 2321 02:46:22,194 --> 02:46:31,959 minute? Did you have any follow up? I think. I 2322 02:46:31,959 --> 02:46:33,959 don't have any follow up on that. Thanks for those 2323 02:46:33,959 --> 02:46:38,079 comments. I'll stick. With what initially, my support for this 2324 02:46:38,079 --> 02:46:41,662 motion given. The significant concerns in the history of this 2325 02:46:41,662 --> 02:46:46,612 intersection that I would support. Implementing a four way stop. 2326 02:46:47,024 --> 02:46:51,756 Immediately. Thanks. So I will go back before I come 2327 02:46:51,756 --> 02:46:57,765 to you. Councilor Ring. Your comment. Then. Yeah. I just 2328 02:46:57,765 --> 02:47:01,245 wanted to comment on director Alcocas about looking at the 2329 02:47:01,245 --> 02:47:03,965 number of cars. And the turning movements, but I don't 2330 02:47:03,965 --> 02:47:07,504 think that's the whole issue here. And also on the 2331 02:47:07,504 --> 02:47:11,344 incidents. What I've heard from the residents over the years 2332 02:47:11,344 --> 02:47:15,424 is there's incidents that get reported to the opp, but. 2333 02:47:17,021 --> 02:47:18,861 They're very few. Of all the incidents that happens there. 2334 02:47:20,649 --> 02:47:22,049 And I think if we were to ask people what 2335 02:47:22,049 --> 02:47:26,228 they have on their camera, We'd get. A totally different 2336 02:47:26,228 --> 02:47:29,508 and enhanced list. So I don't know. I just know 2337 02:47:29,508 --> 02:47:32,748 this from talking. To staff about this intersection and others 2338 02:47:32,748 --> 02:47:36,909 over the years. Incidents aren't everything, and so if there's 2339 02:47:36,909 --> 02:47:40,669 any way staff can enhance that beyond. The OPP list. 2340 02:47:40,669 --> 02:47:43,589 It would be helpful. Thank you. Yeah, I think that 2341 02:47:43,589 --> 02:47:48,046 highlights just how difficult it is to deal with. A 2342 02:47:48,046 --> 02:47:52,432 specific situation without. The information. I'm going to go to 2343 02:47:52,432 --> 02:47:55,032 councilor ring, and then I'll come to you. CEO Skinner. 2344 02:47:57,037 --> 02:48:03,625 Thank you. Debut mayor prayer. And. As was mentioned by 2345 02:48:03,625 --> 02:48:07,825 Councilor McCullough. I am going to support this. I was 2346 02:48:07,825 --> 02:48:11,483 just wondering. If we're going to open up a lot 2347 02:48:11,483 --> 02:48:16,718 of other intersections along that street. And I do know 2348 02:48:16,718 --> 02:48:20,418 that is a bad corner. I think it's more for. 2349 02:48:22,294 --> 02:48:23,534 Not so much. Before we stop, to be honest with 2350 02:48:23,534 --> 02:48:26,734 you, I think it's what was. Brought up by councilor 2351 02:48:26,734 --> 02:48:28,974 Potts when I lived on Cedar Street. I grew up 2352 02:48:28,974 --> 02:48:31,854 as a kid. That intersection was terrible. You couldn't see 2353 02:48:31,854 --> 02:48:34,054 nothing west unless you got right in the. Middle of 2354 02:48:34,054 --> 02:48:36,054 the intersection. So I think a lot of people are 2355 02:48:36,054 --> 02:48:39,440 jumping that stop sign because. They're just hoping that there's 2356 02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:41,720 nothing covered, because from what they can see, they can't 2357 02:48:41,720 --> 02:48:46,147 see anything coming, so I think. The four ways stop 2358 02:48:46,147 --> 02:48:49,547 will alleviate that which I'm all for, so I will 2359 02:48:49,547 --> 02:48:57,696 support it. Did anyone else switch? To speak to it. 2360 02:48:57,696 --> 02:49:02,676 So we're going to be severing. And does everybody understand? 2361 02:49:04,648 --> 02:49:07,728 Whereas in the therefore part of the motion, that'll be 2362 02:49:07,728 --> 02:49:13,818 the first consideration. And. We have movers, Mayor Hamlin, seconders, 2363 02:49:13,818 --> 02:49:18,945 councilor Baines, and then we'll. Deal with. The second part 2364 02:49:18,945 --> 02:49:22,938 after that. Is everybody comfortable with knowing that that's what 2365 02:49:22,938 --> 02:49:26,311 we're going to vote on? I'm just going to add, 2366 02:49:26,311 --> 02:49:28,951 because everything's being covered that I was concerned with. Which 2367 02:49:28,951 --> 02:49:32,271 was the precedent of it that I'm going to be 2368 02:49:32,271 --> 02:49:36,195 supportive of as well. I think when we get a 2369 02:49:36,195 --> 02:49:39,475 direct request and we get a motion on table that 2370 02:49:39,475 --> 02:49:42,595 puts us into a bit of a liability situation, but 2371 02:49:42,595 --> 02:49:45,641 it does sound. Promising on the fact that we are 2372 02:49:45,641 --> 02:49:51,504 going to be getting to the MMTP. And things about 2373 02:49:51,504 --> 02:49:55,775 the stop signs in the very, very near future. So 2374 02:49:55,775 --> 02:49:57,695 on that then I will call the matter to the 2375 02:49:57,695 --> 02:50:01,647 first part as vote all those in. Favor. And that'd 2376 02:50:01,647 --> 02:50:09,053 be unanimous. So the second part. I believe. We're removing 2377 02:50:09,053 --> 02:50:15,422 the two and further that. I believe Mayor Hamlin said 2378 02:50:15,422 --> 02:50:20,208 that your reference would be. To further study would be 2379 02:50:20,208 --> 02:50:25,841 incorporating. With the MMTP. Sorry. To defer that. To defer 2380 02:50:25,841 --> 02:50:33,706 those two. The mmtp discussion, okay? Yeah, that's a better 2381 02:50:33,706 --> 02:50:39,077 reefer. Can that be done? Reefer. It's a reefer. Okay. 2382 02:50:40,691 --> 02:50:44,811 I said refer. The rest of you are saying refurb. 2383 02:50:44,811 --> 02:50:47,531 I said reefer. And you're. Saying reefer. 2384 02:50:55,832 --> 02:51:05,055 There's a headline. Okay. So on that matter, then. On 2385 02:51:05,055 --> 02:51:09,548 the referral. To keep any confusion out of it. All 2386 02:51:09,548 --> 02:51:12,548 those in favor? And that too, is unanimous. And I 2387 02:51:12,548 --> 02:51:15,232 can turn back to you. Thank you. Thank you very 2388 02:51:15,232 --> 02:51:20,361 much. The next motion is from councilor Jeffrey and altern 2389 02:51:20,361 --> 02:51:23,481 this over to her. Thank you very much, Mayor Hammond, 2390 02:51:23,481 --> 02:51:27,241 so this is lengthy, but members of council had it 2391 02:51:27,241 --> 02:51:32,577 well ahead and with the slate amendments. I will read 2392 02:51:32,577 --> 02:51:35,057 it in. So whereas the town of Collingwood is committed 2393 02:51:35,057 --> 02:51:37,937 within its community based strategic plan under its climate change 2394 02:51:37,937 --> 02:51:41,217 and adaptation pillar to work with partners to take action 2395 02:51:41,217 --> 02:51:44,417 on climate change. And whereas a key action under that 2396 02:51:44,417 --> 02:51:48,217 pillar is to enhance emergency management and stormwater planning, in 2397 02:51:48,217 --> 02:51:50,777 the town to help mitigate and adapt to the impacts 2398 02:51:50,777 --> 02:51:56,127 of. A more volatile climate and external environment. And whereas 2399 02:51:56,127 --> 02:51:59,087 there is little to no budgeted funding in the 2026 2400 02:51:59,087 --> 02:52:04,447 budget to pursue proactive stormwater management mitigation. And whereas Greenland 2401 02:52:04,447 --> 02:52:08,487 Engineering is finalizing phase two of the stormwater management plan 2402 02:52:08,487 --> 02:52:11,727 swmp this month and is the keeper of progressive and 2403 02:52:11,727 --> 02:52:15,010 significant. Modeling key to decision making on the impacts of 2404 02:52:15,010 --> 02:52:18,730 stormwater in the town of Collingwood. And whereas it is 2405 02:52:18,730 --> 02:52:23,930 anticipated that the expected total 100 year flood damages amount 2406 02:52:23,930 --> 02:52:26,810 throughout the town documented in the phase two report of 2407 02:52:26,810 --> 02:52:31,556 the SWMP has been determined to be devastating. And whereas 2408 02:52:31,556 --> 02:52:34,316 there has been overwhelming public and council support at two 2409 02:52:34,316 --> 02:52:39,436 previous public information centers, pics including a strong reaction to 2410 02:52:39,436 --> 02:52:43,436 address all flooding impact areas throughout the town. And whereas 2411 02:52:43,436 --> 02:52:47,316 the cooperator's insurance resilience lab released a call for proposals 2412 02:52:47,316 --> 02:52:51,765 on October 6, 2025, for climate change and adapta. Adaptation 2413 02:52:51,765 --> 02:52:55,605 projects with clear objectives of risk reduction and resilience, economic 2414 02:52:55,605 --> 02:52:59,485 uplift, and municipal leadership with a submission deadline of January 2415 02:52:59,485 --> 02:53:06,365 30, 2026 and final selection announcements February 2026. And whereas 2416 02:53:06,365 --> 02:53:09,565 successful applicants will receive funding for project costs up to 2417 02:53:09,565 --> 02:53:16,343 $250,000. Resilience, lab support and network access, and public recognition, 2418 02:53:16,343 --> 02:53:19,503 as well as access to borrowing. 5 million or more 2419 02:53:19,503 --> 02:53:22,663 of private equity funding, with rate and other parameters to 2420 02:53:22,663 --> 02:53:26,063 be confirmed after completion of a draft term sheet or 2421 02:53:26,063 --> 02:53:29,823 business case, identification of a funding payment stream, and a 2422 02:53:29,823 --> 02:53:33,134 letter of intent refurbish, private cap. Capital financing by no 2423 02:53:33,134 --> 02:53:37,694 later than November 30, 2026. And whereas Greenline engineering is 2424 02:53:37,694 --> 02:53:41,374 offering to complete the required documentation to submit a proposal 2425 02:53:41,374 --> 02:53:44,614 for the town of Collingwood project to the cooperator's. Insurance 2426 02:53:44,614 --> 02:53:49,254 Resilience lab call and whereas the cooperating resilience labs timely 2427 02:53:49,254 --> 02:53:53,909 public information session material provide. Provided in October 2025 aligns 2428 02:53:53,909 --> 02:53:57,949 with addressing required next steps to advance the stormwater mitigation 2429 02:53:57,949 --> 02:54:02,269 solution proposed for flood damage centers FDC number one, number 2430 02:54:02,269 --> 02:54:06,509 two and number three within the SWMP and represents an 2431 02:54:06,509 --> 02:54:10,029 opportunity for the town of Collingwood to significantly mitigate flooding. 2432 02:54:10,029 --> 02:54:13,414 Vulnerabilities in those areas. While at the same time potentially 2433 02:54:13,414 --> 02:54:17,614 providing ARu housing possibilities for properties therein. As a result, 2434 02:54:17,614 --> 02:54:20,814 of the reduced water table and flooding risks. And whereas 2435 02:54:20,814 --> 02:54:24,494 there is no financial impact for the proposal, development submission 2436 02:54:24,494 --> 02:54:28,414 and planning phase represented by the proposed submission. Therefore, be 2437 02:54:28,414 --> 02:54:31,614 it resolved, the council direct staff to coordinate with Greenland 2438 02:54:31,614 --> 02:54:34,891 engineering. At no cost to the town of Collingwood to 2439 02:54:34,891 --> 02:54:37,611 complete and submit a grant application for an amount up 2440 02:54:37,611 --> 02:54:42,931 to $250,000 to the cooperator's resilience lab to enable progress 2441 02:54:42,931 --> 02:54:45,731 on the following, but not limited to development of a 2442 02:54:45,731 --> 02:54:49,731 stormwater funding policy, development of preliminary designs and, if funding 2443 02:54:49,731 --> 02:54:53,142 permits, detailed designs for up to 15 million. Dollars of 2444 02:54:53,142 --> 02:54:56,742 prioritized work, which includes flood damage centers one, two and 2445 02:54:56,742 --> 02:55:00,742 three in the SWMP. Prepare for green municipal fund or 2446 02:55:00,742 --> 02:55:04,782 other grant opportunities. And if the cooperator's proposal is successful, 2447 02:55:04,782 --> 02:55:08,782 it will provide important leveraging to be successful if other 2448 02:55:08,782 --> 02:55:11,822 future grants as well and support staff work on a 2449 02:55:11,822 --> 02:55:15,239 business case within. The long term strategic plan to show 2450 02:55:15,239 --> 02:55:19,679 financial viability to accelerate delivery of stormwater. Master plan recommendations. 2451 02:55:31,932 --> 02:55:35,532 Is there a secondary? Yeah. Thank you, councilor pots. Okay, 2452 02:55:35,532 --> 02:55:41,339 would you like to speak first or. Last. I think 2453 02:55:41,339 --> 02:55:48,294 the motion said it. Could have. I did circulate slime 2454 02:55:48,294 --> 02:55:54,213 deck from. And the call for proposals in particularly slide 2455 02:55:54,213 --> 02:55:59,266 eleven, the project eligibility criteria. But. I think the motion 2456 02:55:59,266 --> 02:56:03,009 and the information sent out said it all. Okay. Thank 2457 02:56:03,009 --> 02:56:05,129 you. Would anyone else like to speak to this councilor 2458 02:56:05,129 --> 02:56:12,910 Dougherty? Thank you. I am delighted to see this motion 2459 02:56:12,910 --> 02:56:17,479 come forward. It is definitely a win win, not just 2460 02:56:17,479 --> 02:56:22,772 for the municipality, but for the insurance sector. And I'm 2461 02:56:22,772 --> 02:56:28,779 also delighted to see that. Greenland Engineering is the organization 2462 02:56:28,779 --> 02:56:35,029 that. We have chosen. To collaborate with. As the keeper 2463 02:56:35,029 --> 02:56:40,722 of the most robust and rigorous modeling system. But I 2464 02:56:40,722 --> 02:56:45,282 do have a question with regard to the selection of 2465 02:56:45,282 --> 02:56:50,922 flood prone areas. Just one, two. And three. We also. 2466 02:56:52,468 --> 02:57:00,519 Have areas farther west. Into the resort area and. Over. 2467 02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:05,720 To wealth, almost to Gray Road, 21 and Long Point 2468 02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:10,511 Road. So, just wondering why. The restriction to those three. 2469 02:57:12,853 --> 02:57:16,813 Is this a question for you? Yeah. Okay, sure. Yeah. 2470 02:57:18,600 --> 02:57:21,459 I think because. It was the most benefit for the 2471 02:57:21,459 --> 02:57:26,515 dollars invested. Out of the recommendations in terms of being 2472 02:57:26,515 --> 02:57:31,171 able to solve. And I think the ability to, I 2473 02:57:31,171 --> 02:57:37,422 think, create. Increased property values in that area and produce. 2474 02:57:39,333 --> 02:57:43,733 Aru in backyards and things, the capability of having an 2475 02:57:43,733 --> 02:57:47,587 impact on that part as well. Originally, I thought we 2476 02:57:47,587 --> 02:57:53,886 would need software to identify. The viability or feasibility of 2477 02:57:53,886 --> 02:57:57,006 that, but the CEO had advised me that we already 2478 02:57:57,006 --> 02:58:00,941 have that. Software in our planning department. That could target 2479 02:58:00,941 --> 02:58:05,969 the properties by zoning. So I know that while cooperators 2480 02:58:05,969 --> 02:58:09,409 have been working with the CAO over quite a period 2481 02:58:09,409 --> 02:58:12,049 of time in terms of us trying to develop something 2482 02:58:12,049 --> 02:58:15,769 going forward, but they've just since developed this call specific 2483 02:58:15,769 --> 02:58:18,129 for projects. So that's where it came out of was 2484 02:58:18,129 --> 02:58:20,409 a lot of work over a few months in terms 2485 02:58:20,409 --> 02:58:26,560 of out of. The swmp. What would be the highest 2486 02:58:26,560 --> 02:58:30,644 impact for the lowest dollars at this time? Any other 2487 02:58:30,644 --> 02:58:39,746 questions? Follow up, if I may. So would it be 2488 02:58:39,746 --> 02:58:48,059 the intention that once we have. Concluded this study. And 2489 02:58:48,059 --> 02:58:51,579 send it through the findings that we would be extending 2490 02:58:51,579 --> 02:58:56,783 any learning into. The other. Flood prone areas of our 2491 02:58:56,783 --> 02:59:01,928 municipality or flood zone areas of our municipality. Director Okoka. 2492 02:59:09,199 --> 02:59:10,959 Well, staff must know if this is going to be 2493 02:59:10,959 --> 02:59:15,420 a benefit to other stormwater work in town. Well, I'll 2494 02:59:15,420 --> 02:59:17,180 just give my take on my motion first, and then 2495 02:59:17,180 --> 02:59:21,018 they can wait for sure, if they wish. For sure. 2496 02:59:21,960 --> 02:59:24,720 So I think I described it in the last resolve 2497 02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:28,120 paragraph in terms of developing a stormwater. Funding policy is 2498 02:59:28,120 --> 02:59:31,091 going to enable us to go forward. In a more. 2499 02:59:33,523 --> 02:59:37,083 Fiscal supported way in terms of the other recommendations as 2500 02:59:37,083 --> 02:59:43,399 well. And I think. The grant opportunities throughout will free 2501 02:59:43,399 --> 02:59:46,639 up our monies going forward in terms of addressing the 2502 02:59:46,639 --> 02:59:52,436 other areas of the swMp. Whatever. Stop. Would like that. 2503 02:59:52,436 --> 02:59:56,484 Okay. Do staff agree with this? I mean, I know 2504 02:59:56,484 --> 02:59:59,444 it's in your motion, but I think. It's relevant to 2505 02:59:59,444 --> 03:00:04,937 have stuff provide some advice to us. Okay, CEO, go 2506 03:00:04,937 --> 03:00:08,993 ahead. Thank you. Through the chair. I actually had a 2507 03:00:08,993 --> 03:00:13,588 couple of items I wanted to mention. So we don't 2508 03:00:13,588 --> 03:00:16,908 have the final report from the stormwater master plan, so 2509 03:00:16,908 --> 03:00:20,308 we don't. Know from a staff perspective. We haven't analyzed 2510 03:00:20,308 --> 03:00:26,604 what the priorities are within that. Report, so. It's mentioned. 2511 03:00:26,604 --> 03:00:29,684 That's flood damage centers one, two and three would be 2512 03:00:29,684 --> 03:00:35,260 included. I had interpreted that to be not limited to 2513 03:00:35,260 --> 03:00:38,060 flood damage centers one, two, and three, because the intention 2514 03:00:38,060 --> 03:00:40,820 of the work, as I understand it, is to figure 2515 03:00:40,820 --> 03:00:44,715 out what are the priorities. And would council be willing 2516 03:00:44,715 --> 03:00:48,995 to borrow money to implement any of these priorities more 2517 03:00:48,995 --> 03:00:54,343 quickly? The company. Is offering the part of this offer. 2518 03:00:55,799 --> 03:00:59,079 Is because the company would like to lend municipalities money. 2519 03:00:59,079 --> 03:01:01,839 Their minimum size is a $5 million loan, and they 2520 03:01:01,839 --> 03:01:06,834 will lend up to $15 million. And as councilor Jeffrey 2521 03:01:06,834 --> 03:01:10,738 had mentioned, We don't know the parameters for those loans 2522 03:01:10,738 --> 03:01:14,258 yet, and I do believe that there's. Quite a few 2523 03:01:14,258 --> 03:01:19,896 investment companies that are now getting. Into. Examining whether infrastructure. 2524 03:01:21,351 --> 03:01:24,551 Can be, in fact, a profit center for them. That 2525 03:01:24,551 --> 03:01:30,284 doesn't mean that's bad. For us necessarily. We are. Municipalities 2526 03:01:30,284 --> 03:01:35,022 as a class. Are a group that usually pays off 2527 03:01:35,022 --> 03:01:37,742 their loans. There may be win wins here, but there 2528 03:01:37,742 --> 03:01:41,419 may not. You may decide that. You don't wish to 2529 03:01:41,419 --> 03:01:46,437 borrow money? The lab is not necessarily a lab in 2530 03:01:46,437 --> 03:01:49,917 the sense that it gives a scientific feeling about it. 2531 03:01:49,917 --> 03:01:52,397 But I think the lab is really looking at solutions 2532 03:01:52,397 --> 03:01:58,596 where there could be win wins related to. Investments in 2533 03:01:58,596 --> 03:02:04,652 preventing flooding. I note that Greenland is noted here as 2534 03:02:04,652 --> 03:02:10,084 doing the application. I had not interpreted that Greenland would 2535 03:02:10,084 --> 03:02:15,053 necessarily do all the work. The work noted here does 2536 03:02:15,053 --> 03:02:19,053 include some modeling and potentially includes some modeling, and Greenland 2537 03:02:19,053 --> 03:02:23,449 is our model keeper, but with the 250,000. If you 2538 03:02:23,449 --> 03:02:25,609 voted for it and we did receive it, I would 2539 03:02:25,609 --> 03:02:28,951 see that we were open to. Tender the pieces, and 2540 03:02:28,951 --> 03:02:31,831 the motion is quite specific around the work that should 2541 03:02:31,831 --> 03:02:35,930 happen with respect to policy development. And figuring out how 2542 03:02:35,930 --> 03:02:38,770 to get something ready for not only this work and 2543 03:02:38,770 --> 03:02:41,450 an understanding of whether it should go forward more quickly. 2544 03:02:43,296 --> 03:02:49,077 But also to understand. The finances because at $5 million, 2545 03:02:49,077 --> 03:02:56,656 250,000 is just over one year of interest. So we 2546 03:02:56,656 --> 03:02:58,216 have to look at this. It sounds like a lot 2547 03:02:58,216 --> 03:02:59,896 of money, but it has to. Be looked at from 2548 03:02:59,896 --> 03:03:03,203 a wise point of view. And I just wanted to 2549 03:03:03,203 --> 03:03:06,443 be also very clear that this work on its own 2550 03:03:06,443 --> 03:03:12,873 would not change. The flood lines that are implemented. By 2551 03:03:12,873 --> 03:03:15,913 NVCA in the case of most of our municipality, that 2552 03:03:15,913 --> 03:03:20,415 there would be subsequent studies required. To adjust those lines. 2553 03:03:20,415 --> 03:03:24,338 This work? Wouldn't help that. But there'd be subsequent studies 2554 03:03:24,338 --> 03:03:27,098 required that were acceptable to that. Group and peer reviews. 2555 03:03:28,683 --> 03:03:31,643 To really open the path for adus. Of course, if 2556 03:03:31,643 --> 03:03:34,283 we reduced flooding, one would hope we do those subsequent 2557 03:03:34,283 --> 03:03:38,965 studies and then also receive those benefits. Thank you. I 2558 03:03:38,965 --> 03:03:42,882 think that covers the question and potentially more. Thank you. 2559 03:03:42,882 --> 03:03:47,070 Did you have any follow up? Any further follow up, 2560 03:03:47,070 --> 03:03:52,668 okay? Are there any other questions? So I wouldn't mind. 2561 03:03:52,668 --> 03:03:55,588 The one thing that had been my mind is because 2562 03:03:55,588 --> 03:03:58,748 we don't have our stormwater management report yet. I wanted 2563 03:03:58,748 --> 03:04:02,601 to make sure that this wasn't. Directing where the priorities 2564 03:04:02,601 --> 03:04:06,177 are before council even looks at it. And I think 2565 03:04:06,177 --> 03:04:08,737 the CEO just covered that off. Can I see the 2566 03:04:08,737 --> 03:04:11,097 motion? Could we see the motion up again. I just 2567 03:04:11,097 --> 03:04:13,457 want to read it. Thank you. Just the end part. 2568 03:04:15,117 --> 03:04:17,957 Just what we're voting on. I love your whereas. But. 2569 03:04:35,938 --> 03:04:45,667 What it says is. Development of primary designs, 2570 03:04:45,667 --> 03:04:51,951 detailed designs, up to 15 million. Of prioritized work, which 2571 03:04:51,951 --> 03:04:57,996 includes flood damage centers one, two and three. So co. 2572 03:04:57,996 --> 03:05:03,200 How do you read that? To you. 2573 03:05:09,117 --> 03:05:13,557 In reading it more carefully, it does say that it 2574 03:05:13,557 --> 03:05:17,404 will include those three. I would be more comfortable if 2575 03:05:17,404 --> 03:05:23,779 it. Included consideration of those three. They do involve some 2576 03:05:23,779 --> 03:05:29,219 of the most expensive preliminary capital costs for the proposed 2577 03:05:29,219 --> 03:05:33,739 work, and together would be over 15 million, most of 2578 03:05:33,739 --> 03:05:37,499 which is in the first project, a first flood damage 2579 03:05:37,499 --> 03:05:45,336 area. Sorry. Just under 15,000,014 and a half. And if 2580 03:05:45,336 --> 03:05:48,518 I could just ask you another question. Because I know 2581 03:05:48,518 --> 03:05:51,118 there's going to be a lot of recommendations, I'm assuming. 2582 03:05:52,565 --> 03:05:55,565 Because, like, I had thought maybe we would. Am I 2583 03:05:55,565 --> 03:05:58,445 right to think maybe we wouldn't? Just pick these three. 2584 03:05:58,445 --> 03:06:02,202 We may pick one. And six and seven, for example. 2585 03:06:03,601 --> 03:06:06,041 Is that a possibility if we amend this a bit? 2586 03:06:07,506 --> 03:06:12,697 Yes. Staff have not reviewed the priorities. We've been talking 2587 03:06:12,697 --> 03:06:15,817 with director Alcoca today about that. So we don't know 2588 03:06:15,817 --> 03:06:18,897 which ones we would put forward as our number one 2589 03:06:18,897 --> 03:06:22,057 priorities. We've done seen a preamble of what may come 2590 03:06:22,057 --> 03:06:29,804 forward. In the. Public. Information centers, but we couldn't tell 2591 03:06:29,804 --> 03:06:31,844 you for sure that number one is the one to 2592 03:06:31,844 --> 03:06:36,719 do. There certainly are some quick ones, quick wins that 2593 03:06:36,719 --> 03:06:43,401 are smaller investments. And likely would also. Priorities. If staff 2594 03:06:43,401 --> 03:06:46,898 had the time to review. So would you consider a 2595 03:06:46,898 --> 03:06:52,225 friendly amendment? So in that second bullet, which concludes consideration 2596 03:06:52,225 --> 03:07:01,470 of flood damage centers one, two and three. Yeah. 2597 03:07:05,034 --> 03:07:14,470 Not to debate with the Cao. But. I don't want 2598 03:07:14,470 --> 03:07:18,310 to exclude damage centers one, two and three. Yeah, exactly. 2599 03:07:28,920 --> 03:07:31,320 As it may be. Centers one, two and three are 2600 03:07:31,320 --> 03:07:36,787 exactly the right ones, but. In case staff's recommendation in 2601 03:07:36,787 --> 03:07:43,312 council. 's. Vote on it. Is one, six and seven. 2602 03:07:43,312 --> 03:07:44,912 I've made up six and seven. I don't even. Know 2603 03:07:44,912 --> 03:07:48,296 if there are seven. Yeah, I'm not sure it's any 2604 03:07:48,296 --> 03:07:52,896 different, really. I think it's just. Wordsmithing. Which I hope. 2605 03:07:54,744 --> 03:07:55,904 And I would want the CEO to be very clear. 2606 03:07:57,318 --> 03:08:00,943 What that change is doing to my. I'm not sure 2607 03:08:00,943 --> 03:08:01,783 it's friendly. I want to make sure. Okay. Do you 2608 03:08:01,783 --> 03:08:04,143 want. To say it again. The CEO will explain what 2609 03:08:04,143 --> 03:08:07,275 she thinks it means. Wording to start with. The very 2610 03:08:07,275 --> 03:08:09,435 beginning. And I took it back. She tried to change 2611 03:08:09,435 --> 03:08:13,874 my motion and suggestion, and I took it back. I'm 2612 03:08:13,874 --> 03:08:17,336 kind of debating with the Cao here. Should council approve 2613 03:08:17,336 --> 03:08:22,260 this, I would be happy. That flood damage centers one, 2614 03:08:22,260 --> 03:08:26,198 two and three were considered. I would not want to 2615 03:08:26,198 --> 03:08:29,238 not consider the other flood damage centers, and I wouldn't 2616 03:08:29,238 --> 03:08:33,309 want to preclude that the recommend. Recommendation will be that 2617 03:08:33,309 --> 03:08:36,629 one, two and three are the ones that would potentially 2618 03:08:36,629 --> 03:08:41,189 go forward. So including requiring the consideration of flood damage 2619 03:08:41,189 --> 03:08:43,389 centers one, two and three is fine. I don't want 2620 03:08:43,389 --> 03:08:48,862 to exclude the others. Requiring. They're considered not requiring their 2621 03:08:48,862 --> 03:08:55,305 prioritized. Yeah, okay. So those can stay there. My understanding 2622 03:08:55,305 --> 03:08:59,100 is. If there's a couple there that are like, $34,000. 2623 03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:01,060 So if we decide we want to do those two 2624 03:09:01,060 --> 03:09:04,420 in terms of with flood damage centers one, two and 2625 03:09:04,420 --> 03:09:10,887 three. Then that's not a horrible thing. Okay. And who 2626 03:09:10,887 --> 03:09:14,352 is the secretary on this? Councilor Potts, are you agreeable 2627 03:09:14,352 --> 03:09:19,032 with that? Okay, any other questions or comments? If everybody's 2628 03:09:19,032 --> 03:09:21,232 spoken I just like to speak last and just really. 2629 03:09:21,232 --> 03:09:24,072 Anybody who in the Collingwood over a lot of years 2630 03:09:24,072 --> 03:09:28,632 has had a flooded basement or anything that goes with. 2631 03:09:30,186 --> 03:09:34,266 Us having to manage the stormwater in our town and 2632 03:09:34,266 --> 03:09:40,303 knowing what the forecasts and more frequent. Storms, more severe 2633 03:09:40,303 --> 03:09:45,255 storms. I think we just have to get going, and 2634 03:09:45,255 --> 03:09:47,815 I think this is a win win for us. Because 2635 03:09:47,815 --> 03:09:50,335 there's no cost to do it if we get a 2636 03:09:50,335 --> 03:09:54,469 grant application or an offer. That we can't settle in 2637 03:09:54,469 --> 03:09:57,027 with. And we don't have to take it, but I 2638 03:09:57,027 --> 03:10:00,027 think it's incumbent upon us. To start pursuing these things. 2639 03:10:01,702 --> 03:10:06,702 Given the cost and no other lender will give us 2640 03:10:06,702 --> 03:10:11,542 $250,000 to start with. It. So whether it's only one 2641 03:10:11,542 --> 03:10:14,810 years of interest or not. We're always told in infrastructure. 2642 03:10:16,159 --> 03:10:19,559 Every amount you put in accumulates over time. So 250,000 2643 03:10:19,559 --> 03:10:23,277 in now will save us. A lot over time. That's 2644 03:10:23,277 --> 03:10:26,997 it. I just would ask for your support, Councilor Paynes. 2645 03:10:26,997 --> 03:10:29,117 Thank you, mayor. Hamlin as someone who backs on the 2646 03:10:29,117 --> 03:10:33,648 Oak street canal. Is a board member of the NVCA 2647 03:10:33,648 --> 03:10:36,568 and as someone actively trying to start a friends of 2648 03:10:36,568 --> 03:10:39,408 the cranberry Marsh, even though it's not in one, two, 2649 03:10:39,408 --> 03:10:42,448 or three, I fully support this, and I'm almost jealous. 2650 03:10:43,669 --> 03:10:45,669 That Councilor Jeffrey was able to find this pot of 2651 03:10:45,669 --> 03:10:50,229 money, but fully supported. Thank you. Yeah, detailed designs can 2652 03:10:50,229 --> 03:10:56,324 hurt. Any other comments? Okay, all those in favor? And 2653 03:10:56,324 --> 03:10:59,484 that's unanimous. Thank you. So we'll try and squeak in 2654 03:10:59,484 --> 03:11:02,724 our last item before the budget, or I should say, 2655 03:11:02,724 --> 03:11:05,684 our break, and then we'll. Have a budget discussion after 2656 03:11:05,684 --> 03:11:11,751 that, which is the motion? From councilor beans. This is 2657 03:11:11,751 --> 03:11:15,271 in response to the province of Ontario wishing to reorganize. 2658 03:11:17,106 --> 03:11:20,986 Or propose a reorganization of our 36 conservation authorities. So, 2659 03:11:20,986 --> 03:11:23,066 will you read in your motion then? I will. Thank 2660 03:11:23,066 --> 03:11:27,752 you. And just full disclosure, because there's a deadline of 2661 03:11:27,752 --> 03:11:33,013 December 22 to register comments on the environmental registry. It 2662 03:11:33,013 --> 03:11:35,093 will ask for a wave of notice. In this regard, 2663 03:11:35,093 --> 03:11:38,613 I think you've already given notice. So we're fine today. 2664 03:11:38,613 --> 03:11:41,843 Thank you for reminding me that I've done that. And 2665 03:11:41,843 --> 03:11:47,130 whereas. Sorry. Councilor Baines. Just the clerk is correcting me. 2666 03:11:48,966 --> 03:11:51,566 We will need to do a weaving before we vote 2667 03:11:51,566 --> 03:11:54,886 on this. Okay, we have a secondered. All those in 2668 03:11:54,886 --> 03:11:58,406 favor? Unanimous. Okay, go for it. Thank you for that. 2669 03:12:00,564 --> 03:12:04,604 Whereas municipalities fund and govern conservation authorities under the conservation 2670 03:12:04,604 --> 03:12:10,164 authorities act, whereas the province proposes consolidating 36 conservation authorities 2671 03:12:10,164 --> 03:12:15,644 into seven regional entities, including merging NVCA into a Huron 2672 03:12:15,644 --> 03:12:22,714 superior regional conservation authority spanning 78 plus. Municipalities. And whereas 2673 03:12:22,714 --> 03:12:28,526 this configuration would create a geographically vast. Administratively complex entity 2674 03:12:28,526 --> 03:12:34,318 dilute local accountability. And pose significant transition costs, delaying service 2675 03:12:34,318 --> 03:12:40,358 delivery and housing approvals. Whereas NVCA has already implemented modernization 2676 03:12:40,358 --> 03:12:44,678 measures aligned with provincial objectives within the current watershed based 2677 03:12:44,678 --> 03:12:48,118 governance model. Whereas the town of Collingwood is currently served 2678 03:12:48,118 --> 03:12:51,773 by two conservation authorities, the Grace sabble, conservation author. Authority 2679 03:12:51,773 --> 03:12:55,293 in the Nautawa Saga Valley Conservation Authority, both of which 2680 03:12:55,293 --> 03:12:59,013 would be negatively impacted by the proposed changes. Therefore, be 2681 03:12:59,013 --> 03:13:01,893 it resolved that the town of Collingwood does not support 2682 03:13:01,893 --> 03:13:07,853 the proposed quote. Huron Superior Regional Conservation Authority boundary configuration 2683 03:13:07,853 --> 03:13:13,461 outlined in the environmental registry. Notice number 25. 1257 and 2684 03:13:13,461 --> 03:13:17,861 does not believe amalgamation is required and that the town 2685 03:13:17,861 --> 03:13:23,181 endorses further provincial evaluation of a more geographically coherent, cost 2686 03:13:23,181 --> 03:13:28,341 effective, and locally accountable watershed based management model that advances 2687 03:13:28,341 --> 03:13:32,285 the government's priorities of efficiency, red tape reduction. And timely 2688 03:13:32,285 --> 03:13:36,525 housing delivery and that the town requests that the ministry 2689 03:13:36,525 --> 03:13:41,645 engaged directly with all affected municipalities. And conservation authorities before 2690 03:13:41,645 --> 03:13:48,165 finalizing any consolidation, excuse me, consolidation boundaries or legislative amendments, 2691 03:13:48,165 --> 03:13:51,205 and further, that this resolution with a letter from the 2692 03:13:51,205 --> 03:13:56,403 mayor. Be. Forwarded to the Environmental Registry of Ontario Consultations 2693 03:13:56,403 --> 03:14:02,563 Ministry of Environment, Conservation and Parks, MPP Saunderson, Amo Conservation 2694 03:14:02,563 --> 03:14:06,963 Ontario and the boards of Grace Obel Sageen Valley, Maitland 2695 03:14:06,963 --> 03:14:13,636 Valley. A sovable bfield. Lake Simcoe Region and Lakehead regional 2696 03:14:13,636 --> 03:14:18,654 conservation authorities. Is there a second or for this motion 2697 03:14:18,654 --> 03:14:25,248 counter? McCulloch. Thank you. Comments or did you want to 2698 03:14:25,248 --> 03:14:28,368 speak first or last? I'll. Sorry, last. Okay, anyone like. 2699 03:14:28,368 --> 03:14:32,248 To speak for. There you go. Deputy mayor supportive of 2700 03:14:32,248 --> 03:14:35,763 the motion? As it's been read. I just wondered, as 2701 03:14:35,763 --> 03:14:40,038 far as circulation goes. If simple county should be included. 2702 03:14:41,894 --> 03:14:45,614 Would that be a friendly amendment? Councilor McCulloch, do you 2703 03:14:45,614 --> 03:14:54,371 agreeable? Also agreed. Okay. Any other comments? Councilor Dougherty. 2704 03:14:57,500 --> 03:15:03,175 Thank you. I also am going to support this motion. 2705 03:15:04,537 --> 03:15:14,362 I can't imagine. How service. Particularly for natural hazards, would 2706 03:15:14,362 --> 03:15:20,037 be improved. When. We have a conglomerate of this many 2707 03:15:20,037 --> 03:15:26,261 conservation authorities over that kind of. A geographic span makes 2708 03:15:26,261 --> 03:15:32,494 no sense. With respect. To the ministry makes no sense. 2709 03:15:32,494 --> 03:15:35,854 So I will support this. Thank you. Thank you. I 2710 03:15:35,854 --> 03:15:38,854 totally agree. With your comments. I'm also wondering if we 2711 03:15:38,854 --> 03:15:42,683 should be including as a copy. All the members of 2712 03:15:42,683 --> 03:15:46,763 provincial parliament who are in this vicinity affected by the 2713 03:15:46,763 --> 03:15:51,262 78 municipalities. I would take that as a friendly amendment 2714 03:15:51,262 --> 03:15:59,357 as well. Okay. Councilor McCoffic. Any other comments? Councilor baines 2715 03:15:59,357 --> 03:16:02,250 over to you for the end. Much of it has 2716 03:16:02,250 --> 03:16:04,770 been stated in this and the earlier, and thanks to 2717 03:16:04,770 --> 03:16:07,850 the clerk, quite frankly. For the edits to a four 2718 03:16:07,850 --> 03:16:11,764 page. What was four pages. But I would just say, 2719 03:16:11,764 --> 03:16:16,804 from a bureaucratic level, this will require a new overarching 2720 03:16:16,804 --> 03:16:22,162 body over. The new seven conservation authorities. And one has 2721 03:16:22,162 --> 03:16:24,602 got to ask the question to the province, how will 2722 03:16:24,602 --> 03:16:29,778 that bodies, that new bodies costs. Be reclaimed, and I 2723 03:16:29,778 --> 03:16:32,218 put it to you. I think this is where it's 2724 03:16:32,218 --> 03:16:35,338 going to. Go that the municipalities, as a member of 2725 03:16:35,338 --> 03:16:39,098 the new seven conservation authorities, somehow are going to have 2726 03:16:39,098 --> 03:16:44,051 to be funding that new upper. Tier overseer, if you 2727 03:16:44,051 --> 03:16:50,260 will, of the seven conservation authorities proposed. From. A practical 2728 03:16:50,260 --> 03:16:55,380 matter to have 78 municipalities in the new conservation Authority 2729 03:16:55,380 --> 03:16:59,660 of Huron Lake superior. Yes, the conservation area of Lake 2730 03:16:59,660 --> 03:17:02,977 Superior would be in with us. As well as the 2731 03:17:02,977 --> 03:17:07,904 Lake Simcoe Regional Conservation Authority, which itself. Was set up 2732 03:17:07,904 --> 03:17:12,548 by. A specific act of the Ontario legislature. Is going 2733 03:17:12,548 --> 03:17:16,906 to be a bureaucratic challenge, to say the least. If, 2734 03:17:16,906 --> 03:17:21,306 as Naro saga and others are saying, if we limited 2735 03:17:21,306 --> 03:17:27,391 it specifically to those conservation areas, In essentially southern Georgian 2736 03:17:27,391 --> 03:17:31,391 Bay, whose watersheds empty either onto Lake Huron or georgian 2737 03:17:31,391 --> 03:17:35,454 bay. That in itself would seem to me to be 2738 03:17:35,454 --> 03:17:42,115 a reasonable, although not necessarily supportable, in my opinion. A 2739 03:17:42,115 --> 03:17:45,993 compromise to what is being suggested here, I think. It's 2740 03:17:45,993 --> 03:17:53,559 just. Bureaucratically challenging to include. Lake superior on one end 2741 03:17:53,559 --> 03:17:57,039 and Lake Simcoe on the other. It's for us in 2742 03:17:57,039 --> 03:18:03,427 between. It's just going to be challenged. Thank you. Kane 2743 03:18:03,427 --> 03:18:07,771 with that. All those in favor? And that's unanimous. Thank 2744 03:18:07,771 --> 03:18:12,843 you. So what we'll do now? We'll take a break 2745 03:18:12,843 --> 03:18:15,683 for 40 minutes and then we'll be back. Thank you. 2746 04:05:43,028 --> 04:05:49,195 Hey, council. We'll resume our council meeting now. We're starting 2747 04:05:49,195 --> 04:05:53,568 with item number 14. And this is the continuation of 2748 04:05:53,568 --> 04:05:59,179 our discussions for the 2026 staff proposed budget. And the 2749 04:05:59,179 --> 04:06:02,139 recommendation before us this evening. I'll read it in that 2750 04:06:02,139 --> 04:06:07,459 staff report t 2025. 22 staff proposed budget draft three 2751 04:06:07,459 --> 04:06:15,471 be received. And that council approved the allocation of $336,648 2752 04:06:15,471 --> 04:06:21,111 related to the 2023 Ontario provincial police reconciliation to the 2753 04:06:21,111 --> 04:06:27,231 2025 fiscal year to be funded from the projected 2025 2754 04:06:27,231 --> 04:06:33,217 operating surplus. And that council approved modest and proportionate increases 2755 04:06:33,217 --> 04:06:37,777 to the general capital levy and special capital levy. Resulting 2756 04:06:37,777 --> 04:06:46,881 in additional funding of $133,203. And $66,777, 2757 04:06:46,881 --> 04:06:51,521 respectively, in order to support. As for renewal, priorities identified 2758 04:06:51,521 --> 04:06:54,961 in the town's asset managed plan and to maintain a 2759 04:06:54,961 --> 04:06:59,441 blended tax rate increase of 2.75%. Could have a mover 2760 04:06:59,441 --> 04:07:02,293 in a seconder, please. Then we'll get it. Just to 2761 04:07:02,293 --> 04:07:04,973 get it on the table. Councilor McCullough. Seconded by councilor 2762 04:07:04,973 --> 04:07:09,460 dougherty. And Councilor Graham, I believe you have a slide 2763 04:07:09,460 --> 04:07:15,982 that you want to go treasure. No demotion tonight. Go 2764 04:07:15,982 --> 04:07:20,530 ahead. No conflict of interest yet. Thank you. Mary Hamlin. 2765 04:07:20,530 --> 04:07:23,970 Yes, I am having the appendix shown on screen while 2766 04:07:23,970 --> 04:07:27,549 I just do a quick introduction. To the staff report. 2767 04:07:29,551 --> 04:07:35,915 This report. Presents staff proposed budget draft three can you 2768 04:07:35,915 --> 04:07:37,995 blow that up a bit for us who have trouble 2769 04:07:37,995 --> 04:07:42,820 seeing it. Thank you. Which reflects all directions received from 2770 04:07:42,820 --> 04:07:47,260 council at the November 12, November 24, December 1, and 2771 04:07:47,260 --> 04:07:51,820 December 8 budget meetings and includes the 1.4 million council 2772 04:07:51,820 --> 04:07:55,270 approved amendments which are shown on screen. And detailed in 2773 04:07:55,270 --> 04:07:58,710 the appendix. So just to explain how the screen works, 2774 04:08:00,684 --> 04:08:03,764 The appendix works on the left hand side. We have 2775 04:08:03,764 --> 04:08:07,044 all of the council amendments to date by the funding 2776 04:08:07,044 --> 04:08:10,284 source so we can see, even though it is 1.4 2777 04:08:10,284 --> 04:08:15,404 million, only 405,000 of those are tax supported amendments that 2778 04:08:15,404 --> 04:08:19,764 council has approved to date. 640,000 of the amendments are 2779 04:08:19,764 --> 04:08:25,881 to be funded through the. Municipal accommodation tax. 325,000 are 2780 04:08:25,881 --> 04:08:28,841 to be funded through reserves, with an additional 35 to 2781 04:08:28,841 --> 04:08:32,201 be funded from taxes. On the right hand side, the 2782 04:08:32,201 --> 04:08:35,761 ten of Collewood levy. It shows where these fit into 2783 04:08:35,761 --> 04:08:38,961 the three different levees, a running total of the total 2784 04:08:38,961 --> 04:08:46,484 levy to get us to 44,000,641. 381,000. It also includes 2785 04:08:46,484 --> 04:08:49,444 at the bottom, the three staff proposed amendments, which I 2786 04:08:49,444 --> 04:08:53,317 will discuss. Soon. I'm not going to read all of 2787 04:08:53,317 --> 04:08:56,597 these amendments because I usually do at every meeting, but 2788 04:08:56,597 --> 04:08:58,677 they're there for council's reference should they have any questions. 2789 04:09:00,553 --> 04:09:03,273 So, as mentioned, draft three also includes two additional staff 2790 04:09:03,273 --> 04:09:09,348 recommendations for council's consideration. These recommendations are focused on accuracy, 2791 04:09:09,348 --> 04:09:13,988 transparency, and long term financial sustainability, particularly as they relate 2792 04:09:13,988 --> 04:09:18,200 to the Tan's asset management plan. Right now, the amp 2793 04:09:18,200 --> 04:09:20,600 shows that the town is not putting enough funding each 2794 04:09:20,600 --> 04:09:23,000 year to maintain our assets at the current level of 2795 04:09:23,000 --> 04:09:26,151 service. To be very clear, the town is not currently 2796 04:09:26,151 --> 04:09:29,631 funding its asset management plan at a sufficient level. The 2797 04:09:29,631 --> 04:09:33,631 plan identifies that maintaining our existing assets with a replacement 2798 04:09:33,631 --> 04:09:38,751 value of approximately 1.1 billion requires average annual funding of 2799 04:09:38,751 --> 04:09:42,631 about $23.6 million. When we look at the current funding 2800 04:09:42,631 --> 04:09:46,672 sources together, including tax. Taxes, rates, grants and fees. We 2801 04:09:46,672 --> 04:09:50,847 are short by roughly $15 million per year. And I 2802 04:09:50,847 --> 04:09:52,447 do want to be very clear on this point that 2803 04:09:52,447 --> 04:09:55,727 the shortfall relates only to assets that the town currently 2804 04:09:55,727 --> 04:09:58,807 owns. It does not include growth projects. It does not 2805 04:09:58,807 --> 04:10:03,367 include new facilities. It's strictly about existing infrastructure when the 2806 04:10:03,367 --> 04:10:07,167 town bills or acquire something new, even if it is 2807 04:10:07,167 --> 04:10:11,290 fully funded by development charges or grants. The moment. It's 2808 04:10:11,290 --> 04:10:13,850 built or put in use the obligation and estimated cost 2809 04:10:13,850 --> 04:10:16,370 to maintain it and replace it for the course of 2810 04:10:16,370 --> 04:10:20,127 its lifetime is added to the asset management plan. That 2811 04:10:20,127 --> 04:10:24,247 places additional pressure on reserves and funding sources above and 2812 04:10:24,247 --> 04:10:29,847 beyond the 23.6 million already identified for existing assets. Growth 2813 04:10:29,847 --> 04:10:32,767 helps with construction, but it does not remove the long 2814 04:10:32,767 --> 04:10:37,593 term maintenance and renewal obligation. Service level adjustments in full 2815 04:10:37,593 --> 04:10:41,033 retirement of assets can, of course, help reduce costs somewhat, 2816 04:10:41,033 --> 04:10:43,833 but they cannot eliminate the gap entirely or make a 2817 04:10:43,833 --> 04:10:47,553 significant impact if service levels are reduced too far. The 2818 04:10:47,553 --> 04:10:50,833 tanned risks, increased asset failures, higher long term cost, and 2819 04:10:50,833 --> 04:10:55,630 an increased risk to public safety. So in this context, 2820 04:10:55,630 --> 04:10:59,470 staff are recommending modest proportionate increases to both the general 2821 04:10:59,470 --> 04:11:03,975 capital levy and special capital levy. These adjustments, as shown 2822 04:11:03,975 --> 04:11:08,375 on screen, generate approximately $200,000 combined in additional capital funding. 2823 04:11:09,825 --> 04:11:12,585 This does not solve the problem, but it represents a 2824 04:11:12,585 --> 04:11:17,465 measured and responsible step towards supporting asset renewal. Without placing 2825 04:11:17,465 --> 04:11:21,824 undue pressure on taxpayers. Staff are also recommending that the 2826 04:11:21,824 --> 04:11:29,784 prior year oppiliation amount of $336,000 be allocated to 2025. 2827 04:11:29,784 --> 04:11:33,144 This utilizes part of the projected surplus and helps reduce 2828 04:11:33,144 --> 04:11:37,742 the tax. Burden in 2026. Together, these changes result in 2829 04:11:37,742 --> 04:11:42,822 a blended tax rate increase of 2.75% for Collingwood residents. 2830 04:11:42,822 --> 04:11:45,742 New and not in the report was with the approval 2831 04:11:45,742 --> 04:11:50,342 of the planning fees increase and recommendation from director Valentine 2832 04:11:50,342 --> 04:11:53,382 Council could also direct staff to include revenue increase in 2833 04:11:53,382 --> 04:11:58,751 2026 at 125. Thousand, which would further lower the blended 2834 04:11:58,751 --> 04:12:03,751 rate to 2.57% in the tan rate to 2.7%. Thank 2835 04:12:03,751 --> 04:12:07,749 you. I'm open to any questions you may have. Thank 2836 04:12:07,749 --> 04:12:12,434 you for that presentation. Who would like to kick things 2837 04:12:12,434 --> 04:12:20,851 off this evening? Okay, debbie. Amir. 2838 04:12:25,193 --> 04:12:29,279 Thank you. Mayor Hamlin and I made reference when. I 2839 04:12:29,279 --> 04:12:34,577 was. I appreciate the update. By the treasurer. That gets 2840 04:12:34,577 --> 04:12:37,057 us all on the same page, I think, and where 2841 04:12:37,057 --> 04:12:42,921 we're at. I wanted to ask about. I came across 2842 04:12:42,921 --> 04:12:46,476 some things when I was looking at. The matter about 2843 04:12:46,476 --> 04:12:52,527 the planning fees. On the update that we got. 2844 04:12:56,729 --> 04:13:00,415 I guess it's actually in the budget book. It shows 2845 04:13:00,415 --> 04:13:03,975 for that particular. On that particular page, I think it's. 2846 04:13:03,975 --> 04:13:05,735 I got the page. Number here. I think it's page 2847 04:13:05,735 --> 04:13:13,294 36. Shows transfers from reserves for $575,000. 2848 04:13:15,888 --> 04:13:20,953 In the 2026 Base budget. And I do see where 2849 04:13:20,953 --> 04:13:24,593 there's purchase. Services have increased quite a bit, so I 2850 04:13:24,593 --> 04:13:28,713 wondered. If I could get it a little more explanation 2851 04:13:28,713 --> 04:13:37,629 about. Those two numbers because. The transfer. And reserves. I'm 2852 04:13:37,629 --> 04:13:41,733 trying to understand overall impact. And I guess I'd like 2853 04:13:41,733 --> 04:13:44,293 to know more about that because there was nothing about 2854 04:13:44,293 --> 04:13:48,796 transfers. And reserves for 2025 budget. But there is this 2855 04:13:48,796 --> 04:13:53,344 substantial amount. In 2026. So, as I said, it's on 2856 04:13:53,344 --> 04:13:56,864 page 36, I think it is, which. Is the growth 2857 04:13:56,864 --> 04:14:01,104 and development management and it's the operating budget details that 2858 04:14:01,104 --> 04:14:05,433 I'm referring to? Is that okay, treasure Graham? That you 2859 04:14:05,433 --> 04:14:09,033 know where I am? Okay. Yeah, go ahead. Thank you, 2860 04:14:09,033 --> 04:14:13,753 mayor. Hamlin. It is a one time use of development 2861 04:14:13,753 --> 04:14:17,233 charges, and it's to fund the master servicing plan work 2862 04:14:17,233 --> 04:14:22,792 that's being done. By the engineering group in infrastructure, so 2863 04:14:22,792 --> 04:14:25,392 it offsets the increase in purchase services for this year. 2864 04:14:27,011 --> 04:14:29,411 So, as you say, it's a one time and it's 2865 04:14:29,411 --> 04:14:35,648 the use of dcs. To offset the MSP. Which is 2866 04:14:35,648 --> 04:14:39,823 the large increase down below. So that's great on that. 2867 04:14:41,472 --> 04:14:43,512 I had also given a heads up that I would 2868 04:14:43,512 --> 04:14:48,296 like to talk about transit today. Because I was thinking 2869 04:14:48,296 --> 04:14:53,088 about. The money that we're bringing in from Matt. And 2870 04:14:53,088 --> 04:14:56,128 that got me thinking about when we had talked about 2871 04:14:56,128 --> 04:14:58,928 it before, about the fact that it's helping in all 2872 04:14:58,928 --> 04:15:02,288 areas that tourism get involved in. And some of that's 2873 04:15:02,288 --> 04:15:06,443 transit, some of that's affordable housing, some of that. Trails, 2874 04:15:06,443 --> 04:15:11,389 et cetera. So I also wanted to ask about. That's 2875 04:15:11,389 --> 04:15:16,150 page 137, I believe. And it's the operating budget details 2876 04:15:16,150 --> 04:15:22,087 there, too. There's a government transfer amount that comes in 2877 04:15:22,087 --> 04:15:27,339 both in the 25 budget and the 26. Budget. And 2878 04:15:27,339 --> 04:15:33,236 I just wondered what that's associated with. And is that 2879 04:15:33,236 --> 04:15:38,340 something that. Is continually coming in on an annual basis, 2880 04:15:38,340 --> 04:15:44,299 so it's $370,000 treasure grant. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. Through 2881 04:15:44,299 --> 04:15:47,059 you to the deputy mayor, that is the provincial gas 2882 04:15:47,059 --> 04:15:49,659 tax funding. That we receive. And yes, we do receive 2883 04:15:49,659 --> 04:15:52,539 it on an annual basis towards the cost of providing 2884 04:15:52,539 --> 04:15:58,492 transit services to our community. Okay. The follow up on 2885 04:15:58,492 --> 04:16:05,331 transit under other municipalities. It's showing an increase of about 2886 04:16:05,331 --> 04:16:12,211 50% from a revenue standpoint to $222,000. From other municipalities, 2887 04:16:12,211 --> 04:16:16,570 and there's reference. In the description. On the previous page 2888 04:16:16,570 --> 04:16:23,031 in the book. About expansion. Of the. Boundary service area, 2889 04:16:23,031 --> 04:16:28,799 I guess. So is there something happening, root wise, that 2890 04:16:28,799 --> 04:16:34,749 is leading to that large. Contribution. From. A larger contribution 2891 04:16:34,749 --> 04:16:39,481 from municipalities and through you. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. Through 2892 04:16:39,481 --> 04:16:45,212 you to the deputy mayor, that amount. Is only. Not 2893 04:16:45,212 --> 04:16:49,592 only. It's significant work done by our transit team, particular 2894 04:16:49,592 --> 04:16:54,152 manager, coal and transit coordinator Sandy Falcon. To get an 2895 04:16:54,152 --> 04:16:57,072 amended agreement with the Tanna Blue Mountain. So this solely 2896 04:16:57,072 --> 04:16:59,992 represents an increase in revenue per shared agreement with Hannah 2897 04:16:59,992 --> 04:17:03,131 Blue mountains. I don't have the budget book open right 2898 04:17:03,131 --> 04:17:05,411 now. I will have to reference where it sells self 2899 04:17:05,411 --> 04:17:09,771 servicing. But perhaps I will just defer to Cao's gunner 2900 04:17:09,771 --> 04:17:14,506 or director Alcoca. But. That is not planned for 2026, 2901 04:17:14,506 --> 04:17:18,171 per my understanding. Who would be the best person to 2902 04:17:18,171 --> 04:17:26,290 answer this? Doctor Okoka. Go ahead. Let me ask you 2903 04:17:26,290 --> 04:17:31,090 to repeat the question and then I may refer to 2904 04:17:31,090 --> 04:17:35,178 Manager call if he's online. If I could, Mayor Hamlin. 2905 04:17:35,178 --> 04:17:40,138 Then I noticed in the description part of the explanation 2906 04:17:40,138 --> 04:17:45,138 about transit. It made reference to the south boundary expansion. 2907 04:17:47,237 --> 04:17:52,037 And when I saw the increased revenue from other municipalities, 2908 04:17:52,037 --> 04:17:54,117 I wondered if there was going to be an expansion 2909 04:17:54,117 --> 04:17:59,922 of routes. My understanding from what treasury? GRaham just said 2910 04:17:59,922 --> 04:18:02,602 is no, that has more to do with the renewed 2911 04:18:02,602 --> 04:18:05,522 agreement with town of the mountains. But I've still wondered 2912 04:18:05,522 --> 04:18:09,425 about the soaks boundary expansion. Yes. Go ahead. Yeah. In 2913 04:18:09,425 --> 04:18:15,849 2026, we're not expanding the south boundary. For the simple 2914 04:18:15,849 --> 04:18:18,369 fact that we don't have the bus to do that. 2915 04:18:19,978 --> 04:18:22,698 And the bus is in procurement and it's unlikely it's 2916 04:18:22,698 --> 04:18:24,778 going to be available. Before the end of the year. 2917 04:18:26,575 --> 04:18:30,839 That's 2026. Okay, so that was dependent on the new 2918 04:18:30,839 --> 04:18:33,239 bus that's coming in, but now it looks like the 2919 04:18:33,239 --> 04:18:36,652 new bus wouldn't be done. Until at the end of 2920 04:18:36,652 --> 04:18:39,546 the year at the best. So that explains with that. 2921 04:18:41,281 --> 04:18:48,394 I had circulated. Further questions to Treasure Graham in regards 2922 04:18:48,394 --> 04:18:51,394 to the OPP billing because I'm struggling a little bit. 2923 04:18:53,627 --> 04:18:57,366 With. What we talked about at the meeting and what 2924 04:18:57,366 --> 04:19:02,318 we've received in the recommendations. If I recall correctly, at 2925 04:19:02,318 --> 04:19:05,438 the previous meeting, it was explained that there had been 2926 04:19:05,438 --> 04:19:13,845 an accrual. For $222,000. For 23 costs. And now with 2927 04:19:13,845 --> 04:19:21,327 the recommended change. I see the 336. So I'm wondering 2928 04:19:21,327 --> 04:19:23,767 if there's some sort of netting there with the previous 2929 04:19:23,767 --> 04:19:27,007 accrual. That had been done. And then I had brought 2930 04:19:27,007 --> 04:19:30,927 up. And Treasurer Graham had given some detail, but I 2931 04:19:30,927 --> 04:19:33,447 was hoping to get a little more clarification. I had 2932 04:19:33,447 --> 04:19:36,327 brought up that if we set up an accrual for. 2933 04:19:37,880 --> 04:19:46,611 23. Last billing. Against 24 expenses. I would have thought 2934 04:19:46,611 --> 04:19:50,451 we'd be looking. That we do the same thing with 2935 04:19:50,451 --> 04:19:54,451 24 costs. That have been reconciled on this latest billing 2936 04:19:54,451 --> 04:20:00,082 that we received, which is for 2026. So. I'm hoping 2937 04:20:00,082 --> 04:20:03,642 I've said that in a plain enough way that treasurer 2938 04:20:03,642 --> 04:20:06,362 Graham knows. Where I'm coming from. Luckily, I know she's 2939 04:20:06,362 --> 04:20:09,482 thought about this. Go ahead, treasure. Graham. Thank you, Mayor 2940 04:20:09,482 --> 04:20:13,482 Hamlin. And thank you, deputy mayor. The OPP annual billing 2941 04:20:13,482 --> 04:20:19,121 statement. Is needlessly complicated. I'll say. To start with. So 2942 04:20:19,121 --> 04:20:23,561 what happened? Why I needed. To include that 264,000 that 2943 04:20:23,561 --> 04:20:26,641 we discussed at the last meeting is when I base 2944 04:20:26,641 --> 04:20:31,401 the 11% cap on 2025 billing. I use the amount 2945 04:20:31,401 --> 04:20:37,399 that we're actually paying. Before. I didn't include the amount 2946 04:20:37,399 --> 04:20:41,074 for the year end adjustment. They are now including the 2947 04:20:41,074 --> 04:20:45,074 year end adjustment in the cap again for 2026, and 2948 04:20:45,074 --> 04:20:47,954 that is the amount that I wish to accrue in 2949 04:20:47,954 --> 04:20:53,554 2025. So you're right. I still included the 265,000 to 2950 04:20:53,554 --> 04:20:57,114 make sure that we are at the exact total billing 2951 04:20:57,114 --> 04:21:02,526 for 2026 of 6.78 $6 million. But now. I'm actually 2952 04:21:02,526 --> 04:21:07,086 deducting 336,000 because that portion, when we look at the 2953 04:21:07,086 --> 04:21:11,046 detailed information on how they calculate. It relates to prior 2954 04:21:11,046 --> 04:21:14,897 period adjustment. So it is a net. Part of me. 2955 04:21:17,150 --> 04:21:23,232 336. Of about $52,000 is the difference that the OPP 2956 04:21:23,232 --> 04:21:29,773 adjustments are impacting 2026 budget. Just a follow up. May, 2957 04:21:29,773 --> 04:21:30,693 may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may Mayor hamlet. 2958 04:21:30,693 --> 04:21:38,860 But if there's. 2024 adjustment. Is that not also requiring 2959 04:21:38,860 --> 04:21:43,110 a prior period adjustment? I think these are better questions 2960 04:21:43,110 --> 04:21:52,386 offline depumer, which. Policies, treasurers using to decide which column 2961 04:21:52,386 --> 04:21:56,934 she's putting funds into. Is beyond what our role at 2962 04:21:56,934 --> 04:21:59,814 council is. I'm happy to let the treasurer answer this. 2963 04:21:59,814 --> 04:22:02,811 One, because I know she has thought about this. But 2964 04:22:02,811 --> 04:22:06,483 I don't know that. This is good for what we're 2965 04:22:06,483 --> 04:22:09,043 doing at this table. Treasure, go ahead. Okay, thank you. 2966 04:22:09,043 --> 04:22:16,499 Mayor Hamlin. So there is $735,000. In the pre adjusted 2967 04:22:16,499 --> 04:22:21,739 calculation for 2026 cost. So to explain it, we received 2968 04:22:21,739 --> 04:22:24,139 what would our billing look like if they decided not 2969 04:22:24,139 --> 04:22:27,299 to do this 11% cost. And in that there was 2970 04:22:27,299 --> 04:22:32,779 a $735,000 adjustment to 2024 recognizing, as we expected there 2971 04:22:32,779 --> 04:22:36,451 would be considering that they did. A significant decrease for 2972 04:22:36,451 --> 04:22:40,987 all municipalities last year, so. Had they not capped it 2973 04:22:40,987 --> 04:22:45,147 at 11%, we would be paying an annual amount of 2974 04:22:45,147 --> 04:22:49,943 7.55. Million. We're not paying that. So in my professional 2975 04:22:49,943 --> 04:22:53,223 opinion, I use the actual amount that we're paying to 2976 04:22:53,223 --> 04:22:56,903 determine which. Amount should be accrued in 2024 and what 2977 04:22:56,903 --> 04:23:00,103 I feel would be supported when we are audited as 2978 04:23:00,103 --> 04:23:03,143 supporting working papers on why it's appropriate to include that 2979 04:23:03,143 --> 04:23:06,063 amount in 2025. Part of me. I said 2024 a 2980 04:23:06,063 --> 04:23:12,552 minute ago, Mayor Hamlin. I do appreciate. And I'm asking 2981 04:23:12,552 --> 04:23:17,464 my questions respectfully. I'd ask the question at the previous 2982 04:23:17,464 --> 04:23:19,624 meeting, and I was just trying to make sure. I 2983 04:23:19,624 --> 04:23:25,298 understood the answer. As treasurer, Graham just said, in her 2984 04:23:25,298 --> 04:23:31,064 professional opinion, this is what she's recommending. And I'm looking 2985 04:23:31,064 --> 04:23:34,744 at things. I'm trying to find things that I hope 2986 04:23:34,744 --> 04:23:38,464 would help because right now I'm struggling with approving this 2987 04:23:38,464 --> 04:23:44,094 budget. I know that we've received. The summary about the 2988 04:23:44,094 --> 04:23:49,879 blended impacts, but when I'm looking at it, It's in 2989 04:23:49,879 --> 04:23:55,039 my opinion, over a 5%, close to 6%. Spending from 2990 04:23:55,039 --> 04:23:59,998 a year over year basis on the operating side. And 2991 04:23:59,998 --> 04:24:02,638 the last two budgets, we've been successful in getting the 2992 04:24:02,638 --> 04:24:10,991 operating side down, and we did substantial change. To. The 2993 04:24:10,991 --> 04:24:13,951 capital levy side because we recognize the need that we 2994 04:24:13,951 --> 04:24:20,730 have there. I'm struggling. I'm trying to find things. So 2995 04:24:20,730 --> 04:24:24,437 I'm going to leave. I have a couple of other 2996 04:24:24,437 --> 04:24:26,517 questions, but I'm going to lead those for right now. 2997 04:24:26,517 --> 04:24:29,877 And let other counselors ask their questions. And just as 2998 04:24:29,877 --> 04:24:32,957 they say, I'm struggling to accept the budget as it's 2999 04:24:32,957 --> 04:24:40,133 presented. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, Councilor Paynes? Thank 3000 04:24:40,133 --> 04:24:44,176 you, Mayor Hamlin. Director Graham here on the hot seat. 3001 04:24:44,176 --> 04:24:50,628 I suppose again. This is, again, sort of. If you 3002 04:24:50,628 --> 04:24:53,588 will, the working man's question about the amp and how 3003 04:24:53,588 --> 04:24:58,348 that relates to this. Whole budget because. We're approximately. Proposed. 3004 04:24:59,720 --> 04:25:04,580 44,500,000 is the general levy to our taxpayers. But you 3005 04:25:04,580 --> 04:25:07,380 stated, as I think you said, if we were to 3006 04:25:07,380 --> 04:25:13,557 fully pay. Either the 2025 or the 2026 Amp. Assessment, 3007 04:25:13,557 --> 04:25:15,637 if you will. It would be 23 million, I think 3008 04:25:15,637 --> 04:25:19,427 you said. Is that correct? In a real world, if 3009 04:25:19,427 --> 04:25:22,547 you added that 23 million to the 44 and a 3010 04:25:22,547 --> 04:25:28,041 half million dollar levy. That'd be a horrendous increase. Okay, 3011 04:25:28,041 --> 04:25:30,361 I'll just finish with my question. So I'm starting to 3012 04:25:30,361 --> 04:25:34,081 think is the province, not looking at municipalities and the 3013 04:25:34,081 --> 04:25:37,921 aMP and coming up with suggested best practices as far 3014 04:25:37,921 --> 04:25:41,081 as the kind of percentage or the kind of money 3015 04:25:41,081 --> 04:25:43,601 that you should be setting aside in the budget. Like 3016 04:25:43,601 --> 04:25:47,321 this. This is economics 101 for me. So I look. 3017 04:25:48,124 --> 04:25:50,364 Forward to your response. Thank you. Thank you. I think 3018 04:25:50,364 --> 04:25:53,444 this is one question we all wondering about. Sure, go 3019 04:25:53,444 --> 04:25:56,391 ahead. I'm going to back up a little bit before 3020 04:25:56,391 --> 04:26:00,551 I make a comment on the province. That 26.3 million 3021 04:26:00,551 --> 04:26:05,437 is not just. Tax related. It's actually a portion of 3022 04:26:05,437 --> 04:26:07,957 it is rate related. So if we were to include 3023 04:26:07,957 --> 04:26:12,357 the 26.3 million. That wouldn't be just to taxes? There's 3024 04:26:12,357 --> 04:26:16,077 a strong portion. I think around 37%, but I can 3025 04:26:16,077 --> 04:26:20,222 confirm that amount is actually. Rate applied. So our water 3026 04:26:20,222 --> 04:26:23,622 and wastewater rates, and that's why the AMP has said 3027 04:26:23,622 --> 04:26:26,222 that our rates are actually too low as well, which. 3028 04:26:27,553 --> 04:26:30,073 We're not proposing an increase during this budget. Our next 3029 04:26:30,073 --> 04:26:33,873 water wastewater rate study, that council has directed staff to 3030 04:26:33,873 --> 04:26:37,073 do is in 2028, and we'll examine the rates at 3031 04:26:37,073 --> 04:26:41,884 that. Point. Of that 26.3 million too. We do get 3032 04:26:41,884 --> 04:26:45,884 to continuous grants from the province that goes. To war 3033 04:26:45,884 --> 04:26:48,764 and the federal government. That does go toward asset renewal. 3034 04:26:48,764 --> 04:26:52,175 It's not enough. But we do get osif and we 3035 04:26:52,175 --> 04:26:54,855 do get the former federal gas tax as well. Ccbt. 3036 04:26:56,691 --> 04:27:00,371 So that 26 point million comes from multiple sources, grants, 3037 04:27:00,371 --> 04:27:07,015 taxes. Rates. And that's pretty much it, really. I do 3038 04:27:07,015 --> 04:27:13,469 think that the province. By implementing this rigorous AMP requirement 3039 04:27:13,469 --> 04:27:17,509 to all municipalities is going to have to recognize that. 3040 04:27:19,298 --> 04:27:24,058 We can't possibly fund 87% of infrastructure across the province 3041 04:27:24,058 --> 04:27:27,258 with the taxes we get. Off of our residents. It 3042 04:27:27,258 --> 04:27:30,858 is not a Collingwood issue. It is a province issue. 3043 04:27:30,858 --> 04:27:37,724 And I'm hoping that there is change. Yeah. Any other 3044 04:27:37,724 --> 04:27:42,405 questions? Yeah, go ahead. So thank you, Mayor Hamlin. So 3045 04:27:42,405 --> 04:27:45,005 I did appreciate the deputy mayor's question on the accruals 3046 04:27:45,005 --> 04:27:47,925 because I had the same questions myself in terms of. 3047 04:27:49,622 --> 04:27:53,369 I know all the financial statement preps I've done. It 3048 04:27:53,369 --> 04:27:55,289 really didn't matter what the expense was that you were 3049 04:27:55,289 --> 04:27:58,329 claiming during the year, you were trying to match expenses 3050 04:27:58,329 --> 04:28:01,169 with revenue. So if it was an expense in 24. 3051 04:28:02,851 --> 04:28:06,313 I had the same question. Why wouldn't. It be being 3052 04:28:06,313 --> 04:28:10,338 carried back as an accrued back. And with that said, 3053 04:28:10,338 --> 04:28:12,618 I am having trouble too and I want to sort 3054 04:28:12,618 --> 04:28:15,178 out in my mind I don't want to talk about 3055 04:28:15,178 --> 04:28:17,778 blended rate anymore. I think we need to talk about. 3056 04:28:17,778 --> 04:28:24,953 Our municipal rate and be really clear on that. So 3057 04:28:24,953 --> 04:28:26,993 I'd like to know where we're at. I think I 3058 04:28:26,993 --> 04:28:35,736 heard you say at 2.7. After. The addition of. The 3059 04:28:35,736 --> 04:28:38,456 go ahead. Do you want to repeat? Thank you. Yeah, 3060 04:28:38,456 --> 04:28:42,804 I would be happy to. Our combined municipals capital and 3061 04:28:42,804 --> 04:28:46,484 general levy. So the three different levees, this is inclusive 3062 04:28:46,484 --> 04:28:52,623 of the 125,000 additional revenue is 2.7%. Do you have 3063 04:28:52,623 --> 04:28:59,336 a follow up? Thank you. No, just trying to look 3064 04:28:59,336 --> 04:29:02,376 for things to get it down. I think given the 3065 04:29:02,376 --> 04:29:07,096 experience, people and. Businesses had this past weekend. I think 3066 04:29:07,096 --> 04:29:10,896 given the state of the economics. And number one, my 3067 04:29:10,896 --> 04:29:13,936 comment to the provinces is they don't understand the reality 3068 04:29:13,936 --> 04:29:18,898 that they run deficits. We do not. So. They need 3069 04:29:18,898 --> 04:29:20,778 to have an understanding that we can't go out and 3070 04:29:20,778 --> 04:29:25,111 spend all that money. And run a deficit. I guess 3071 04:29:25,111 --> 04:29:27,071 in terms of just trying to find something to get 3072 04:29:27,071 --> 04:29:32,984 it down. I think we're doing well enough as a 3073 04:29:32,984 --> 04:29:37,504 municipality compared to a lot of the other municipalities. We 3074 04:29:37,504 --> 04:29:39,824 are in great shape. And I think some of these 3075 04:29:39,824 --> 04:29:43,424 things happen because other municipalities aren't as responsible as what 3076 04:29:43,424 --> 04:29:48,644 we have been financially. And so. I think we just 3077 04:29:48,644 --> 04:29:51,804 have to find a way to get this down somehow. 3078 04:29:53,523 --> 04:29:56,123 Thank you. Well, I agree. I think we're in pretty 3079 04:29:56,123 --> 04:29:58,803 good shape. And I had asked. The treasurer if she 3080 04:29:58,803 --> 04:30:02,163 could come with some comparisons with other municipalities in some 3081 04:30:02,163 --> 04:30:08,483 co county. A lot have settled her right now. Some 3082 04:30:08,483 --> 04:30:13,090 are still working through it. I think they all looked 3083 04:30:13,090 --> 04:30:16,130 at blended rates, if I'm correct. But anyway, could you 3084 04:30:16,130 --> 04:30:19,490 just. Tell us what you found. Thank you. I would 3085 04:30:19,490 --> 04:30:21,170 be happy to. You. So we did a scan. Of 3086 04:30:21,170 --> 04:30:24,730 the environment of our pure municipalities. On Friday, we are 3087 04:30:24,730 --> 04:30:27,930 the third lowest out of the 16. The lowest is 3088 04:30:27,930 --> 04:30:31,410 township as Clearview at 2.6%. And again, this is when 3089 04:30:31,410 --> 04:30:33,289 we were at two. Point 75, which has now been 3090 04:30:33,289 --> 04:30:36,209 lowered with that additional income up to the highest at 3091 04:30:36,209 --> 04:30:40,009 5.5% tan of Colleenwood. Our current rate right now that 3092 04:30:40,009 --> 04:30:45,786 is being proposed. Is significantly lower than the average. Thank 3093 04:30:45,786 --> 04:30:48,546 you. Can you read through them so we know who's 3094 04:30:48,546 --> 04:30:53,186 been approved and who hasn't? Coming in at sure, I 3095 04:30:53,186 --> 04:30:54,786 would be happy to. And again, this was a scan 3096 04:30:54,786 --> 04:30:56,626 that was done on Friday, so hopefully it is still 3097 04:30:56,626 --> 04:31:03,298 the most up to date information. Clearview is 2.6 blended 3098 04:31:03,298 --> 04:31:07,018 still in the staff proposed budgets phase, and mayor budget 3099 04:31:07,018 --> 04:31:12,758 is not anticipated until January eigth. Angela. Tossed. I'm sorry. 3100 04:31:12,758 --> 04:31:15,358 I can't say that. But we all know what I'm. 3101 04:31:15,358 --> 04:31:21,358 Referring to is 2.545% blended. Approved December 4. Colleen wed 3102 04:31:21,358 --> 04:31:27,158 was 2.75 on Friday. Blended with Sega Beach 2.99% blended 3103 04:31:27,158 --> 04:31:33,556 approved around December 5. New Takumfa 3.9 approved. November 4 3104 04:31:33,556 --> 04:31:42,756 Midland 3.15 December 10 Penitentuishing 3.22 December 10 Severn 3.64, 3105 04:31:42,756 --> 04:31:45,756 but discussions are still ongoing as of November 27. From 3106 04:31:45,756 --> 04:31:51,621 what we could find. Bradford West Willenbury 3.71% abandonment period 3107 04:31:51,621 --> 04:31:56,066 is open until December 17. So they have done their 3108 04:31:56,066 --> 04:32:00,925 mayor proposed budget. ESA is 3.87 discussions are still ongoing 3109 04:32:00,925 --> 04:32:07,136 as of December 10. Tiny 3.95 discussions still ongoing. Oro 3110 04:32:07,136 --> 04:32:11,325 madante 3.98. They do two years budget per the note, 3111 04:32:11,325 --> 04:32:16,285 so adopt a 25 26 April 29 Romero 4.5 this 3112 04:32:16,285 --> 04:32:18,285 is the town only, so the blended rate would be 3113 04:32:18,285 --> 04:32:22,918 a little bit less. Adopted on November 7. Tanna Blue 3114 04:32:22,918 --> 04:32:28,118 Mountains again town only is 4.34. Discussions are still ongoing 3115 04:32:28,118 --> 04:32:33,918 as of December 1. Spring water 5.15. It's blended, expected 3116 04:32:33,918 --> 04:32:37,278 to be adopted this month in Isville 5.5. It's blended. 3117 04:32:38,429 --> 04:32:42,020 And say. We could not find any information for Tay. 3118 04:32:42,020 --> 04:32:44,340 It's just that the mayor's budget. Is not expected to 3119 04:32:44,340 --> 04:32:50,481 be tabled until January 21. Okay, well, that's very helpful. 3120 04:32:50,481 --> 04:32:54,647 I know for myself. I think if we apply the 3121 04:32:54,647 --> 04:33:00,607 funds relating to the planning fees that we discussed earlier 3122 04:33:00,607 --> 04:33:05,436 today for us to get to 2.7% blended. I think 3123 04:33:05,436 --> 04:33:09,456 we've done well for our municipality. We're not far off 3124 04:33:09,456 --> 04:33:12,656 of where inflation is, and we are delivering a lot 3125 04:33:12,656 --> 04:33:16,828 of great things in our budget. So that's where I'm 3126 04:33:16,828 --> 04:33:24,968 at. Dep. Deputy thank you, Mayor Hamlin. 3127 04:33:26,804 --> 04:33:31,226 I guess. That's the problem. I keep coming back. To 3128 04:33:31,226 --> 04:33:34,858 in order to get us down. To the 2.7. I 3129 04:33:34,858 --> 04:33:39,695 guess it is right now. We've got $250,000 coming from 3130 04:33:39,695 --> 04:33:44,693 Matt helping out with that. We're spending $390,000 of Matt. 3131 04:33:47,227 --> 04:33:50,547 And that, to me, that's another percent in a bit 3132 04:33:50,547 --> 04:33:54,705 right there of impact. One of the challenges with looking 3133 04:33:54,705 --> 04:33:56,305 at what we just looked at with the rate changes. 3134 04:33:59,104 --> 04:34:01,744 And co. Skinner mentioned this in the media coverage about 3135 04:34:01,744 --> 04:34:05,624 comparing taxes and we really don't know what the other 3136 04:34:05,624 --> 04:34:10,482 communities are doing from a capital. Contribution, standpoint or amp? 3137 04:34:11,969 --> 04:34:14,129 And we've broken it out, and I think that was 3138 04:34:14,129 --> 04:34:17,117 the right thing to do. And that gives us the 3139 04:34:17,117 --> 04:34:20,997 ability to show what is going to amp and what's 3140 04:34:20,997 --> 04:34:25,758 going to operating. I think eventually all municipalities will have 3141 04:34:25,758 --> 04:34:27,758 to do that because I think the follow up for 3142 04:34:27,758 --> 04:34:30,598 the province with requiring amp programs is they're going to 3143 04:34:30,598 --> 04:34:35,274 want to see. What's happening with taxes to contribute towards 3144 04:34:35,274 --> 04:34:40,724 that. That all being said. One of the items that 3145 04:34:40,724 --> 04:34:44,364 I looked at as. A possible something that we could 3146 04:34:44,364 --> 04:34:47,684 do to reduce was I wanted to take another look 3147 04:34:47,684 --> 04:34:52,118 at P 55. And the decision to implement it. So 3148 04:34:52,118 --> 04:34:55,407 what I wanted to ask about. With that, because it 3149 04:34:55,407 --> 04:34:59,047 does show in the explanation of the almost 1.3 million. 3150 04:35:00,557 --> 04:35:06,734 Of payroll change, salary and benefit. Change without the 166. 3151 04:35:08,109 --> 04:35:16,189 It does mention the $157,000 adjustment. For p 50. For. 3152 04:35:18,440 --> 04:35:21,680 Those ones who needed to be brought up to p 3153 04:35:21,680 --> 04:35:25,320 50 appropriately because p 50 had changed over the course 3154 04:35:25,320 --> 04:35:30,516 of the year. And got me thinking about the $166,000 3155 04:35:30,516 --> 04:35:33,396 for the p 55 adjustment, and I did. Ask the 3156 04:35:33,396 --> 04:35:35,916 question earlier today, and I don't know if the information 3157 04:35:35,916 --> 04:35:40,577 is available or not. But I wondered. If we could 3158 04:35:40,577 --> 04:35:43,697 get an idea of how many employees are impacted by 3159 04:35:43,697 --> 04:35:51,146 that 166 adjustment. That is right now approved. And I 3160 04:35:51,146 --> 04:35:57,276 think through you to executive director, Peg. Probably, yeah. Our 3161 04:35:57,276 --> 04:36:00,996 treasurer? Yes. Treasure has an answer, I think. Sure. Because 3162 04:36:00,996 --> 04:36:03,756 it is pay policy related, I'm. Just going to give 3163 04:36:03,756 --> 04:36:06,316 a general, high level answer to it, and I hope 3164 04:36:06,316 --> 04:36:10,156 that's sufficient so to get to p 50, there's actually 3165 04:36:10,156 --> 04:36:15,054 nine pay bands of stuff that are impacted. Out of 3166 04:36:15,054 --> 04:36:17,014 our 15 pay bands that we have, and then to 3167 04:36:17,014 --> 04:36:21,837 get to p 55. There's ten that would be impacted. 3168 04:36:23,805 --> 04:36:25,765 Out of the 15, which makes sense, considering if they're 3169 04:36:25,765 --> 04:36:27,885 not at p 50 there's. Certainly not going to be 3170 04:36:27,885 --> 04:36:31,525 at p 55. So it is a significant amount of 3171 04:36:31,525 --> 04:36:35,165 employees that are not at the p 55 level, and 3172 04:36:35,165 --> 04:36:39,137 that's why it's included in the base budget. P 50. 3173 04:36:39,137 --> 04:36:41,817 Pardon me? P 55 is not included in the base 3174 04:36:41,817 --> 04:36:47,482 budget at all. Sorry. I'm going to put that item 3175 04:36:47,482 --> 04:36:49,442 back on the table and see if I get a 3176 04:36:49,442 --> 04:36:55,951 seconder to reconsider it. I appreciate that there's ten employees 3177 04:36:55,951 --> 04:37:00,758 impacted by it. Sorry. Not ten employees, ten pay bands. 3178 04:37:02,997 --> 04:37:07,426 Ten pay bands. Thank you for correcting that. Sorry. But. 3179 04:37:09,293 --> 04:37:12,333 I just think with the fact that I consider our 3180 04:37:12,333 --> 04:37:17,503 increase to be high. And the fact that. I think. 3181 04:37:20,228 --> 04:37:23,014 The investment. Performance this past year has been very strong, 3182 04:37:23,014 --> 04:37:27,527 but also there's challenges for the taxpayers out there. So. 3183 04:37:28,267 --> 04:37:30,107 I'm going to propose to put that back on the 3184 04:37:30,107 --> 04:37:34,469 table to revote on that. And I would look to 3185 04:37:34,469 --> 04:37:37,469 see if I could get a seconder. Okay. Councilor Potts. 3186 04:37:37,469 --> 04:37:41,928 Is going to second that. And, sir, it's the P 3187 04:37:41,928 --> 04:37:49,151 55. Yes. 166,000. I've already explained the reasonings. Why? So 3188 04:37:49,151 --> 04:37:51,111 I don't think I have to. Say anything more, Mayor 3189 04:37:51,111 --> 04:37:54,231 Hammond. Okay. Would anyone else like to speak to. Would 3190 04:37:54,231 --> 04:37:58,334 anyone like to speak. To this. Councilor Potts. Thanks, Mayor 3191 04:37:58,334 --> 04:38:00,654 Hamlin. So, just threw you to the treasure just for 3192 04:38:00,654 --> 04:38:04,734 clarification. So we have a number of staff within their 3193 04:38:04,734 --> 04:38:07,094 paybands that aren't. Even at p 50 yet is what 3194 04:38:07,094 --> 04:38:10,174 I'm hearing. So it would be p 50 and then 3195 04:38:10,174 --> 04:38:14,717 they would technically jump, wherever they're at now from. P 3196 04:38:14,717 --> 04:38:16,677 30 whatever it is, all the way to p 55. 3197 04:38:18,746 --> 04:38:21,826 P 40 something, whatever, all the way to p 55. 3198 04:38:21,826 --> 04:38:25,946 So that would be a fairly significant increase. If I'm 3199 04:38:25,946 --> 04:38:30,753 understanding it right. Yes. Go ahead, treasure. Graham. To be 3200 04:38:30,753 --> 04:38:35,673 clear, just to help. Hopefully this helps. The average increase 3201 04:38:35,673 --> 04:38:39,873 is just under 2%, so. It isn't a significant increase 3202 04:38:39,873 --> 04:38:42,233 to get to p 50. There's just a lot of 3203 04:38:42,233 --> 04:38:44,713 employee. So it does add up to that amount. But 3204 04:38:44,713 --> 04:38:51,189 per employee itself, It averages about 1.8%. And just follow 3205 04:38:51,189 --> 04:38:55,385 up Mayor Hammond. So on top of. That percentage, there 3206 04:38:55,385 --> 04:38:58,105 would still be also a call or like a cost 3207 04:38:58,105 --> 04:39:00,736 of living as well. That would be included in that 3208 04:39:00,736 --> 04:39:03,795 as well. So depending on what that is, It could 3209 04:39:03,795 --> 04:39:06,995 be if three, four or 5%, depending on what Cola 3210 04:39:06,995 --> 04:39:10,731 comes in at, correct? Yes, go ahead. Cola is in 3211 04:39:10,731 --> 04:39:15,755 the base budget at 2.75% for nonunion. Stuff. And yes, 3212 04:39:15,755 --> 04:39:25,729 that would be an addition. Thank you. Alfred. Thank 3213 04:39:25,729 --> 04:39:29,769 you, chair. I am not going to support this motion. 3214 04:39:32,864 --> 04:39:35,064 First of all, I believe that we have come forward. 3215 04:39:36,484 --> 04:39:43,081 Staff have come forward with a very reasonable budget. Given 3216 04:39:43,081 --> 04:39:49,349 the challenges that we face. In terms of costs. Of 3217 04:39:49,349 --> 04:39:58,044 infrastructure renewal. Costs of operating, et cetera. And in particular. 3218 04:39:59,930 --> 04:40:04,709 I would not support. The notion of endeavoring to reduce 3219 04:40:04,709 --> 04:40:14,464 the budget. By reducing. Earning potential. For some of our 3220 04:40:14,464 --> 04:40:23,657 staff. We owe it to hardworking stuff. To pay. Competitive 3221 04:40:23,657 --> 04:40:27,463 wages. If we do not, we will have a hard 3222 04:40:27,463 --> 04:40:31,903 time attracting good stuff. It's as simple. As that, but. 3223 04:40:33,212 --> 04:40:37,516 I just can't emphasize enough, in my view. I think 3224 04:40:37,516 --> 04:40:45,399 two point. 70. Is very acceptable. Budget when we look 3225 04:40:45,399 --> 04:40:51,968 at. What some of. Our Simcoe county member communities are 3226 04:40:51,968 --> 04:41:01,861 budgeting. For 2026. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor Baines. Thank 3227 04:41:01,861 --> 04:41:05,704 you. I agree and echo my colleague councilor Dorte's comments. 3228 04:41:07,412 --> 04:41:13,372 I think staff. Are our greatest strength, if you will, 3229 04:41:13,372 --> 04:41:15,772 as an organization here in the town, and it's just 3230 04:41:15,772 --> 04:41:20,967 been proven this last weekend. I don't think. It's accessor 3231 04:41:20,967 --> 04:41:24,344 of the tall, I think. It's essentially the norm of 3232 04:41:24,344 --> 04:41:27,224 what our fellow communities are doing. So I would not 3233 04:41:27,224 --> 04:41:33,011 support the deputy mayor's motion in this regard. I'll come 3234 04:41:33,011 --> 04:41:34,811 back to council. I just want to see if there's 3235 04:41:34,811 --> 04:41:40,232 anybody else. Anyone else like to comment on this? I 3236 04:41:40,232 --> 04:41:43,444 think what I'd like to say is. It's always a 3237 04:41:43,444 --> 04:41:46,444 hard one. But let's face it, at Steph who's? Running 3238 04:41:46,444 --> 04:41:50,204 this municipality, and there are other municipalities out there like 3239 04:41:50,204 --> 04:41:52,564 the Missauga beach. I've heard his mayor say a few 3240 04:41:52,564 --> 04:41:55,084 times, our goal is to pay the most because we 3241 04:41:55,084 --> 04:41:57,244 want to have the best staff, but we're not going 3242 04:41:57,244 --> 04:42:01,354 to pay the most. And I think P 55 is 3243 04:42:01,354 --> 04:42:04,314 where our competitors are. We approved a list of comparator 3244 04:42:04,314 --> 04:42:08,091 municipalities a few months ago. And this is where they're 3245 04:42:08,091 --> 04:42:13,869 at. And. We all know what happens when we have 3246 04:42:13,869 --> 04:42:17,629 new staff. We have a loss of continuity. The corporate 3247 04:42:17,629 --> 04:42:23,146 history is lost. We get behind the ball. Things slow 3248 04:42:23,146 --> 04:42:25,866 down because people have to get up to speed. And 3249 04:42:25,866 --> 04:42:30,874 I think this is a modest amount. It won't impact. 3250 04:42:31,043 --> 04:42:34,983 Our tax rates significantly at all. This would be a 3251 04:42:34,983 --> 04:42:38,143 very modest amount. What would it be? Zero, 5% or 3252 04:42:38,143 --> 04:42:42,448 something? To make sure we have the best staff that 3253 04:42:42,448 --> 04:42:46,248 we're entitled to. So those are my thoughts. Capital. Councilor 3254 04:42:46,248 --> 04:42:48,768 Potts. Yeah, thanks. Mary Hamlin. I just wanted to make 3255 04:42:48,768 --> 04:42:53,062 a couple. Of points. And I'm not really interested in 3256 04:42:53,062 --> 04:42:58,707 comparing with any municipality. My priority is Collingwood. And the 3257 04:42:58,707 --> 04:43:05,034 taxpayers at Collingwood. And. When I hear 2.7% is not 3258 04:43:05,034 --> 04:43:07,754 an issue, it may not be an issue to some, 3259 04:43:07,754 --> 04:43:09,354 but there's a lot of people in this community. The 3260 04:43:09,354 --> 04:43:14,509 2.7. 0.1% is too much. So I think looking at 3261 04:43:14,509 --> 04:43:19,011 this, if there's. Any way. Stopping getting to a P 3262 04:43:19,011 --> 04:43:23,792 50. Sounds like there's going to be a pay increase 3263 04:43:23,792 --> 04:43:26,952 anyways, so regardless of that, I think the 2.7 is 3264 04:43:26,952 --> 04:43:30,706 still too high. And I know that there's going to 3265 04:43:30,706 --> 04:43:34,946 be differences of opinions, but I'm not. Convinced that staff 3266 04:43:34,946 --> 04:43:38,066 are leaving Collingwood because of wages. Maybe some, not all. 3267 04:43:40,096 --> 04:43:43,200 So I will continue to support the fact that. I 3268 04:43:43,200 --> 04:43:47,320 will support the deputy mayor's motion on this. And again. 3269 04:43:50,190 --> 04:43:52,590 In these times, we have to look out for the 3270 04:43:52,590 --> 04:43:57,188 taxpayer. They can't put meals on tables. They can barely 3271 04:43:57,188 --> 04:44:00,644 keep the lights on. And we have comments on the 3272 04:44:00,644 --> 04:44:04,575 2.7. Shouldn't be an issue. No problem with that. I 3273 04:44:04,575 --> 04:44:06,615 think really, we're not doing any good justice for our 3274 04:44:06,615 --> 04:44:11,162 taxpayers. That's just. My opinion. Anyone else like to speak? 3275 04:44:11,162 --> 04:44:19,111 Okay, deputy mayor. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. And I want 3276 04:44:19,111 --> 04:44:21,271 to repeat, as I've said quite a few different times, 3277 04:44:23,112 --> 04:44:25,032 When I've put something on the table here like this. 3278 04:44:25,032 --> 04:44:27,832 This is in complete respect to our staff. Our staff 3279 04:44:27,832 --> 04:44:32,422 are wonderful. What it comes down to is the operating 3280 04:44:32,422 --> 04:44:36,401 increase is just too much on the tax base. And 3281 04:44:36,401 --> 04:44:42,476 if the 2.7 had a fairly large. Capital adjustment to 3282 04:44:42,476 --> 04:44:46,939 it, then maybe I'd look at it differently. But. I'm 3283 04:44:46,939 --> 04:44:51,761 struggling. On approving an operating impact that we're approving here. 3284 04:44:53,115 --> 04:44:56,800 And this is one area. That would help with that. 3285 04:44:58,531 --> 04:45:03,113 And as I said, I don't want it to reflect 3286 04:45:03,113 --> 04:45:05,753 back that I think poorly established, because I don't. I 3287 04:45:05,753 --> 04:45:11,478 think they're working hard. So is the taxpayer. To me, 3288 04:45:11,478 --> 04:45:14,918 when you look at it, I'm seeing over 5% operating 3289 04:45:14,918 --> 04:45:18,478 impact, and that's just too much. So I've got to 3290 04:45:18,478 --> 04:45:21,798 look for ways to try to bring that down. Okay. 3291 04:45:21,798 --> 04:45:26,310 Thank you. Councilor Potts, I do agree with you to 3292 04:45:26,310 --> 04:45:29,910 the extent that people are struggling a lot of people 3293 04:45:29,910 --> 04:45:36,330 are struggling. But this tax crease is under. $70 a 3294 04:45:36,330 --> 04:45:40,933 year. And. It comes down to should, in my view 3295 04:45:40,933 --> 04:45:43,893 anyway, is at the local level of government, who has 3296 04:45:43,893 --> 04:45:48,053 no ability to borrow, to run deficits that is totally 3297 04:45:48,053 --> 04:45:51,869 dependent on other levels of government. To supplement what we're 3298 04:45:51,869 --> 04:45:55,429 doing to get where we're going to cover these bare 3299 04:45:55,429 --> 04:45:59,376 necessities that people are not able to meet. And I 3300 04:45:59,376 --> 04:46:01,656 hear you and I feel for our residents who are 3301 04:46:01,656 --> 04:46:06,868 in those positions. But we have to keep going. And 3302 04:46:06,868 --> 04:46:08,988 if maybe the discussion to be had is with our 3303 04:46:08,988 --> 04:46:14,522 provincial counterparts. But. We still have to our budget this 3304 04:46:14,522 --> 04:46:19,491 year. We're going to be resurfacing over 30 sections of 3305 04:46:19,491 --> 04:46:22,891 road. These are important. Things to our community. And, yeah, 3306 04:46:22,891 --> 04:46:27,171 we can focus on $166,000 to staff because it makes 3307 04:46:27,171 --> 04:46:33,731 headlines. But this budget is not about $166,000. It's about 3308 04:46:33,731 --> 04:46:37,051 $100 million worth of capital works and operating to make 3309 04:46:37,051 --> 04:46:43,815 that happen. But I hear you, Councilor McCullough. Thank you. 3310 04:46:46,457 --> 04:46:51,847 Just. I wanted to throw. Some comments in on. The 3311 04:46:51,847 --> 04:46:59,249 subject of staff compensation. I think it's. A very expensive 3312 04:46:59,249 --> 04:47:02,089 way to save money. I think it impacts performance, service 3313 04:47:02,089 --> 04:47:07,329 delivery, dealing with items that we don't see coming. But 3314 04:47:07,329 --> 04:47:11,329 day to day, it puts the burden if staff leave, 3315 04:47:11,329 --> 04:47:14,289 puts the burden on the remaining staff and reduces the 3316 04:47:14,289 --> 04:47:18,839 way that the town can deliver. So that's my comment 3317 04:47:18,839 --> 04:47:22,519 on that piece. It's very tempting to trim operational expenses. 3318 04:47:22,519 --> 04:47:25,319 But there's typically a long term cost to those short 3319 04:47:25,319 --> 04:47:32,000 term savings. And I read circled a couple of items 3320 04:47:32,000 --> 04:47:35,040 that are on the impact of municipal levy, and I 3321 04:47:35,040 --> 04:47:38,440 think? There's some flexibility and some work to be done 3322 04:47:38,440 --> 04:47:41,440 on some more discretionary items. It would not have an 3323 04:47:41,440 --> 04:47:46,114 immediate impact. Yeah. Did you want to raise those? Sorry. 3324 04:47:46,114 --> 04:47:49,954 Yeah, I forgot. You're right. Okay, so, shall we bring 3325 04:47:49,954 --> 04:47:53,754 to a vote, deputy mayor's? Motion. Councilor Jeffrey. Thank you. 3326 04:47:57,146 --> 04:47:59,186 I'd like to respectfully say that I don't think there's 3327 04:47:59,186 --> 04:48:02,026 anybody. Here seeking headlines. I think we're trying to do 3328 04:48:02,026 --> 04:48:04,866 a good job for our residents and all of us 3329 04:48:04,866 --> 04:48:07,826 may see that being done in a different way, but 3330 04:48:07,826 --> 04:48:10,506 I don't think it's really a fair comment. I'm certainly 3331 04:48:10,506 --> 04:48:14,146 that's not my impotent. Well, I use the wrong words 3332 04:48:14,146 --> 04:48:16,586 anyway. We'll just leave it as it is. I totally 3333 04:48:16,586 --> 04:48:19,073 understand. Okay, let's bring this to a vote. All those 3334 04:48:19,073 --> 04:48:27,721 in favor? 1234 and those opposed? Okay, that fails. Okay, 3335 04:48:27,721 --> 04:48:30,401 who would like to. Councilor McCullough, did you have some 3336 04:48:30,401 --> 04:48:34,346 things? You wanted to put on the floor. Thank you, 3337 04:48:34,346 --> 04:48:37,626 mayor. Two items that I circled that fall under the 3338 04:48:37,626 --> 04:48:43,970 municipal levy category of expenses. And I know this is 3339 04:48:43,970 --> 04:48:49,468 sacrosanct, but stick with me. $400,000 is the largest line 3340 04:48:49,468 --> 04:48:53,428 item on that. That is a discretionary council item. That 3341 04:48:53,428 --> 04:48:56,861 was put. On the budget, and I think based on 3342 04:48:56,861 --> 04:48:59,861 some of the discussions we had last week regarding town. 3343 04:49:01,468 --> 04:49:05,308 Municipal capital facilities or cooperative partnerships with housing initiatives and 3344 04:49:05,308 --> 04:49:08,548 being able to provide land at a reduced cost that 3345 04:49:08,548 --> 04:49:11,868 a significant impact could be made to affordable housing through 3346 04:49:11,868 --> 04:49:14,908 that measure, as opposed to on the back of the 3347 04:49:14,908 --> 04:49:19,270 taxpayers. So I think. There's great potential in that piece 3348 04:49:19,270 --> 04:49:21,870 of land that could be contributed at a lower cost. 3349 04:49:23,239 --> 04:49:26,839 To help facilitate affordable housing, and I think that has 3350 04:49:26,839 --> 04:49:31,608 a larger impact than 50 or $100,000. Would. Okay, so 3351 04:49:31,608 --> 04:49:34,048 I think maybe you're asking, what's the value of that 3352 04:49:34,048 --> 04:49:39,301 land? Perhaps. I think one of the items that was 3353 04:49:39,301 --> 04:49:46,920 discussed in that. Would retain ownership of the land and 3354 04:49:46,920 --> 04:49:50,200 provided on a land lease basis, which reduces the capital 3355 04:49:50,200 --> 04:49:53,360 requirement. To start the development there and get it going. 3356 04:49:55,092 --> 04:50:00,523 So what is your motion, then? To the budget. I'll 3357 04:50:00,523 --> 04:50:08,872 need help with wording on this clerk Almas. That an 3358 04:50:08,872 --> 04:50:18,780 alternative? Means of supporting affordable housing. Is explored through. Options 3359 04:50:18,780 --> 04:50:25,735 related to town provided land for affordable housing. Something to 3360 04:50:25,735 --> 04:50:33,756 that effect. Sale. A land lease can be at whatever 3361 04:50:33,756 --> 04:50:37,796 rate per annum that the town decides is relevant. So 3362 04:50:37,796 --> 04:50:41,236 it can be subsidized, it can be free, it can 3363 04:50:41,236 --> 04:50:46,259 be market. So how would that impact, like, if we 3364 04:50:46,259 --> 04:50:49,459 want to vote on something that does, I presume. What 3365 04:50:49,459 --> 04:50:54,121 you're saying is the 400,000 should be reduced. Do you 3366 04:50:54,121 --> 04:51:01,430 have a number in mind? We have to get the 3367 04:51:01,430 --> 04:51:06,970 motion at first. $100,000. 3368 04:51:12,510 --> 04:51:21,057 Would there be a seconder for this? No. Okay, what's 3369 04:51:21,057 --> 04:51:26,317 your next item? Okay, we'll have one more kick at 3370 04:51:26,317 --> 04:51:35,497 the can. I had certain reservations about 3371 04:51:35,497 --> 04:51:38,377 the Georgian Bay accelerator and the way that it was 3372 04:51:38,377 --> 04:51:41,897 funding, we've addressed most of those, but I think, again, 3373 04:51:41,897 --> 04:51:44,977 that's a discretionary item in light. Of the pressure on 3374 04:51:44,977 --> 04:51:50,426 the budget that could be revisited. So, do you have 3375 04:51:50,426 --> 04:51:51,106 a suggestion? 3376 04:52:05,487 --> 04:52:13,058 Now I've reduced by 50%. Okay. 3377 04:52:16,653 --> 04:52:21,053 And that's $130,000 item, I believe. Was that right? Okay. 3378 04:52:21,053 --> 04:52:25,073 And councilor. Ring. Are you seconding that? Okay, we have 3379 04:52:25,073 --> 04:52:29,592 a second. Seconder. I want to be very sorry, mayor. 3380 04:52:29,592 --> 04:52:31,712 I want to be really clear. I wasn't trying. To 3381 04:52:31,712 --> 04:52:35,232 reduce the contribution to affordable housing. I was trying to 3382 04:52:35,232 --> 04:52:42,141 change the delivery of it and use another method. I 3383 04:52:42,141 --> 04:52:43,941 realized that. But we've had five budget meetings, and five 3384 04:52:43,941 --> 04:52:46,381 times people have tried to reduce that money to affordable 3385 04:52:46,381 --> 04:52:55,441 housing. There's a presentation. Yeah. Thank you. 3386 04:52:56,837 --> 04:53:00,083 Okay. Would you like to speak to this to start? 3387 04:53:02,215 --> 04:53:07,445 Or is to reduce the amount. Allocated to the Georgian 3388 04:53:07,445 --> 04:53:11,885 Bay accelerator, which is now $130,000 by 50%. 3389 04:53:19,302 --> 04:53:24,302 Casserbaint. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. Before going down this path, 3390 04:53:26,546 --> 04:53:32,651 I had some concerns about. The dollar request that this 3391 04:53:32,651 --> 04:53:36,331 had, but the implications of such a decision, because it 3392 04:53:36,331 --> 04:53:39,011 could be that if we cut it at 50%, they 3393 04:53:39,011 --> 04:53:41,851 might say, no, we're done then, because we just can't 3394 04:53:41,851 --> 04:53:46,416 deliver. And I'm not sure who on staff's part. Could 3395 04:53:46,416 --> 04:53:48,616 reasonably answer such a question that if we cut it 3396 04:53:48,616 --> 04:53:52,859 by 50%, Essentially, is it all or nothing? And if 3397 04:53:52,859 --> 04:53:57,030 anybody, staff or anywhere, has a response to that, Now 3398 04:53:57,030 --> 04:53:59,630 would be the time to. Perhaps my colleague knows. Thank 3399 04:53:59,630 --> 04:54:03,622 you, Councilor McCullough. Thank you mayor. I don't have a 3400 04:54:03,622 --> 04:54:05,982 direct answer, but I do know there was conversation around 3401 04:54:05,982 --> 04:54:10,222 an overlap. Between our economic development people and that group, 3402 04:54:10,222 --> 04:54:12,942 and that left me a little bit disconcerted. As to 3403 04:54:12,942 --> 04:54:15,462 was that money being applied in the wrong place or 3404 04:54:15,462 --> 04:54:23,615 perhaps being duplicated? I totally shared that view. So I 3405 04:54:23,615 --> 04:54:28,055 was happy with how our final resolution was on that 3406 04:54:28,055 --> 04:54:36,025 because. It wasn't just allocate $130,000. Because. As I see 3407 04:54:36,025 --> 04:54:39,611 it. And I think director Valentine can correct me on 3408 04:54:39,611 --> 04:54:42,613 this. But I think this will be the year for 3409 04:54:42,613 --> 04:54:45,533 the Georgian Bay accelerator. They're either going to fit into 3410 04:54:45,533 --> 04:54:49,613 our programming and show us what they're doing all the 3411 04:54:49,613 --> 04:54:55,174 time. Supporting Collingwood businesses. And so on, or they're not. 3412 04:54:55,174 --> 04:55:00,676 And I see if. They don't step up, that this 3413 04:55:00,676 --> 04:55:03,796 will be the last year for them. I am somewhat 3414 04:55:03,796 --> 04:55:07,396 worried about just cutting them off, not having a lot 3415 04:55:07,396 --> 04:55:11,531 of knowledge about. What businesses they're working with right now. 3416 04:55:11,531 --> 04:55:15,571 But, director Valentine, can you remind us what qualifications we 3417 04:55:15,571 --> 04:55:21,343 put around. Their funding for 2026. Thank you, chair. It 3418 04:55:21,343 --> 04:55:26,270 was Councilor Jeffries. Motion, so I hope I do it 3419 04:55:26,270 --> 04:55:31,175 justice, but. It was to ensure that the 130,000 was 3420 04:55:31,175 --> 04:55:37,564 directed to support Collingwood businesses. To provide quarterly financial reporting 3421 04:55:37,564 --> 04:55:41,444 through to council and to improve coordination between the GBA 3422 04:55:41,444 --> 04:55:48,616 and our economic development division. Yeah, that's it. And director 3423 04:55:48,616 --> 04:55:51,456 Valentine, how do you like. Do you agree with me 3424 04:55:51,456 --> 04:55:58,265 that 26. Will be. Important year for the accelerator. Thank 3425 04:55:58,265 --> 04:56:04,192 you for that question. You can say. I don't know. 3426 04:56:04,192 --> 04:56:09,021 It's okay. It's hard to crystal ball through that, but 3427 04:56:09,021 --> 04:56:14,703 I will say that staff have had reservations. With Collingwood 3428 04:56:14,703 --> 04:56:19,632 being the primary municipal funder. Of an organization that does 3429 04:56:19,632 --> 04:56:25,323 great work, undoubtedly, but is focused across multiple. Regions in 3430 04:56:25,323 --> 04:56:27,603 south Georgia Bay and beyond to Gray and Bruce as 3431 04:56:27,603 --> 04:56:33,654 well. Through their own statistics indicated that. The business is 3432 04:56:33,654 --> 04:56:37,734 supported. In 2025, only 40% were from Collingwood and have 3433 04:56:37,734 --> 04:56:42,591 been challenged to find other funding opportunities. So a decrease 3434 04:56:42,591 --> 04:56:45,911 in funding is supportable by staff, but I think the 3435 04:56:45,911 --> 04:56:48,431 mayor is probably correct. In her crystal ball that if 3436 04:56:48,431 --> 04:56:52,991 that money were to decrease significantly, the accelerator may be 3437 04:56:52,991 --> 04:56:56,271 challenged to make up that money either from other municipal 3438 04:56:56,271 --> 04:57:01,038 contributors or other orders of government. The only other piece 3439 04:57:01,038 --> 04:57:04,918 that staff had thought of that hasn't been mentioned today. 3440 04:57:06,253 --> 04:57:09,813 Is the potential for the accelerator to do a fee 3441 04:57:09,813 --> 04:57:14,791 for service. When businesses approach that are not from Collingwood, 3442 04:57:14,791 --> 04:57:19,485 which could augment. Their revenue intake as well as to 3443 04:57:19,485 --> 04:57:23,622 seek corporate sponsors. So those are other options available to 3444 04:57:23,622 --> 04:57:27,863 the accelerator. So it is certainly a complicated topic. But. 3445 04:57:29,753 --> 04:57:32,433 There is a potential that the accelerator may fold if 3446 04:57:32,433 --> 04:57:34,593 it does not receive the full funding from the town. 3447 04:57:36,373 --> 04:57:44,026 Any other thoughts on this? Okay, we'll bring this to 3448 04:57:44,026 --> 04:57:51,212 a vote. 50% reduction. All in favor? 1234. 3449 04:57:52,816 --> 04:57:59,047 123-4567 opposed. To carries. Okay. 3450 04:58:06,012 --> 04:58:11,559 So. That's half of that is, what, 65? And we 3451 04:58:11,559 --> 04:58:15,119 had 120. What was the other amount that we added 3452 04:58:15,119 --> 04:58:21,013 in? Brought us down to 2.7. Will this make any 3453 04:58:21,013 --> 04:58:23,173 difference to the tax rate? Yeah, go. Ahead. Tell us 3454 04:58:23,173 --> 04:58:25,413 what it will be. I would be happy too. I'm 3455 04:58:25,413 --> 04:58:29,716 keeping a running. Total. So this has decreased the town's 3456 04:58:29,716 --> 04:58:33,876 portion, not the blended rate, the towns portion to 2.55%. 3457 04:58:33,876 --> 04:58:35,836 And for those that are interested in the blended rate, 3458 04:58:35,836 --> 04:58:42,396 it's 2.47%. Okay, awesome. Thank you. Councilor Potts. Thanks, Mayor 3459 04:58:42,396 --> 04:58:49,442 Hamlet. Moving on. I think if it's council's wish to 3460 04:58:49,442 --> 04:58:53,404 maintain. The p 55, then I would table and probably 3461 04:58:53,404 --> 04:58:56,924 separate, but the removal of the 54,000 for human resources. 3462 04:58:58,599 --> 04:59:03,308 And also the economic development coordinator. It's at 120, but 3463 04:59:03,308 --> 04:59:05,392 I think. It would matter. I don't know if there 3464 04:59:05,392 --> 04:59:08,983 was funding for that. But it would be removing those 3465 04:59:08,983 --> 04:59:12,813 two staff resources. Okay. Would there be a seconder for 3466 04:59:12,813 --> 04:59:17,232 that? Deputy mayor. Okay. Do you want to speak to 3467 04:59:17,232 --> 04:59:24,111 why you. Just think looking at it again. Additional staff 3468 04:59:24,111 --> 04:59:28,791 resources. If we're looking at with budget items and trying 3469 04:59:28,791 --> 04:59:32,511 to work things here. And obviously it's council's wish to 3470 04:59:32,511 --> 04:59:36,626 maintain and to move to the P 55. I think, 3471 04:59:36,626 --> 04:59:40,709 given the year coming up, And I think removing those. 3472 04:59:42,441 --> 04:59:45,601 It's just something that I'm putting forward, so I think 3473 04:59:45,601 --> 04:59:48,681 I've exhausted all my reasons why over the last number 3474 04:59:48,681 --> 04:59:53,052 of months. Okay. Thank you. Can I just ask staff 3475 04:59:53,052 --> 04:59:57,412 to comment on the economic development coordinator position, how we 3476 04:59:57,412 --> 04:59:59,572 are going to fund that and what the role of 3477 04:59:59,572 --> 05:00:03,297 that person was. I can speak to how we're funding 3478 05:00:03,297 --> 05:00:06,657 it, but I think I'll look to director Valentine on 3479 05:00:06,657 --> 05:00:11,994 the role. This is funded through the municipal accommodation tax. 3480 05:00:13,529 --> 05:00:16,169 The percentage that relates to the town of Collingwood. So 3481 05:00:16,169 --> 05:00:20,009 this would be an ongoing annual expense, but. Again. Fund 3482 05:00:20,009 --> 05:00:24,449 it through the municipal accommodation tax and not taxes. And 3483 05:00:24,449 --> 05:00:27,809 I'll ask director Valentine. If she doesn't mind, to elaborate 3484 05:00:27,809 --> 05:00:31,944 on the position. So if it's funded through the municipal 3485 05:00:31,944 --> 05:00:35,584 accommodation tax, if we remove that person, would it change 3486 05:00:35,584 --> 05:00:40,264 the tax increase? No, it would not change the tax 3487 05:00:40,264 --> 05:00:44,144 increase. It would decrease the amount of municipal accommodation tax 3488 05:00:44,144 --> 05:00:48,929 that has been allocated. And there is 250,000 that's being 3489 05:00:48,929 --> 05:00:51,929 allocated so far. That's just reducing. The tax base, so 3490 05:00:51,929 --> 05:00:56,332 that would lower that amount. So less reliance on the 3491 05:00:56,332 --> 05:01:00,678 MAT to lower tax. Okay, go ahead and can you 3492 05:01:00,678 --> 05:01:03,518 explain with this person's job is. Thank you. Thank you. 3493 05:01:03,518 --> 05:01:06,758 Chair. And through you both the downtown master plan and 3494 05:01:06,758 --> 05:01:11,135 the tourism master plan. Each suggested that the town would 3495 05:01:11,135 --> 05:01:15,375 require additional resources over and above those available in economic 3496 05:01:15,375 --> 05:01:20,255 development to drive forward those plans. So one resource each. 3497 05:01:20,255 --> 05:01:22,615 We felt that that was an unreasonable request of council. 3498 05:01:22,615 --> 05:01:26,615 And also felt that the two plans have synergies in 3499 05:01:26,615 --> 05:01:30,726 terms of their focus on sustainable tourism. And the vitality 3500 05:01:30,726 --> 05:01:33,246 of our downtown corps, which is also, well, both our 3501 05:01:33,246 --> 05:01:37,828 strategic priorities of this community. So our suggestion was a 3502 05:01:37,828 --> 05:01:42,890 single position. To essentially spearhead. The advancement of both of 3503 05:01:42,890 --> 05:01:45,650 those plans, one that has a life cycle of about 3504 05:01:45,650 --> 05:01:48,210 three years and the other one of 20 plus years 3505 05:01:48,210 --> 05:01:50,490 being the downtown master plan. So that would be the 3506 05:01:50,490 --> 05:01:53,690 focus. Of that individual funded through the mat. Thank you. 3507 05:01:55,391 --> 05:02:00,519 Follow up Maryland for me, of course. To treasure Graham. 3508 05:02:01,660 --> 05:02:07,718 No additional cost from the taxpayer. It's coming under the 3509 05:02:07,718 --> 05:02:10,238 mat. There's no additional cost when it comes to even. 3510 05:02:10,238 --> 05:02:13,598 With wages, benefits, tax, anything along that line, there'd be 3511 05:02:13,598 --> 05:02:17,013 nothing. This would be solely. Everything's funded solely from the 3512 05:02:17,013 --> 05:02:22,253 mat. Go ahead for this position. Yes, you're correct. It 3513 05:02:22,253 --> 05:02:24,453 would be funded solely through the mat. The way that 3514 05:02:24,453 --> 05:02:29,089 council has approved the amendment to date. Thank you. I 3515 05:02:29,089 --> 05:02:32,609 still don't support the additional staff resources, so I'll maintain 3516 05:02:32,609 --> 05:02:38,245 that. Okay. Thank you. And the other position? If I'm 3517 05:02:38,245 --> 05:02:42,611 remembering correctly. That was taking a part time to a 3518 05:02:42,611 --> 05:02:45,931 full time. Could someone speak to what that person does? 3519 05:02:45,931 --> 05:02:49,048 And why we need a full time. Executive director. Peg, 3520 05:02:49,048 --> 05:02:51,248 go ahead. Thank you, worship. Through you to council. So 3521 05:02:51,248 --> 05:02:54,208 the HR support position currently is an eight month contract. 3522 05:02:54,208 --> 05:02:57,688 So the proposal for council's consideration was converting that to 3523 05:02:57,688 --> 05:03:03,795 a full time continuous. Human resources operations in talent management 3524 05:03:03,795 --> 05:03:08,050 has a lot of accountability. In, I'll say our people 3525 05:03:08,050 --> 05:03:11,250 and the investment in the people across the organization adjusting 3526 05:03:11,250 --> 05:03:16,268 this resource is to recognize. The challenges, we'll say, of 3527 05:03:16,268 --> 05:03:19,428 running a modern workforce, and a lot of that responsibility 3528 05:03:19,428 --> 05:03:22,872 falls. Within the HR team. With an eight month contract, 3529 05:03:22,872 --> 05:03:27,929 although we've been blessed to. Get decent applications, and we've 3530 05:03:27,929 --> 05:03:29,649 had some really great people work for the town in 3531 05:03:29,649 --> 05:03:33,449 the past the loss of continuity. With an eight month 3532 05:03:33,449 --> 05:03:35,969 contract is challenging. You train someone as soon as they're 3533 05:03:35,969 --> 05:03:39,289 up to speed, they leave and you're recruiting again. You 3534 05:03:39,289 --> 05:03:42,329 hire someone else. So we thought that the. Cost benefit 3535 05:03:42,329 --> 05:03:48,279 of the additional four months. And benefits. Was an investment 3536 05:03:48,279 --> 05:03:52,999 well made. The role would help with the ERP transition. 3537 05:03:52,999 --> 05:03:56,953 So moving from great plains to a new product. HR 3538 05:03:56,953 --> 05:04:02,869 processes, policy updates, recruitment, training and development. Whole gamut of 3539 05:04:02,869 --> 05:04:05,669 HR practices. And again, we have an eight month contract 3540 05:04:05,669 --> 05:04:09,077 right now. It's just challenging with continuous turnover in those 3541 05:04:09,077 --> 05:04:11,637 positions. And I see Theo Skinner may want to contribute 3542 05:04:11,637 --> 05:04:16,113 to that, okay? Thank you. Through the chair. I just 3543 05:04:16,113 --> 05:04:20,633 wanted to, I was doing my 54 comment that that 3544 05:04:20,633 --> 05:04:25,033 particular item was, I believe, 54,000 in the, in the. 3545 05:04:27,903 --> 05:04:31,480 Difference. And since I am speaking, I would also just 3546 05:04:31,480 --> 05:04:36,293 want to say that. If we don't do the economic 3547 05:04:36,293 --> 05:04:43,482 development coordinator for the downtown work. And. The downtown master 3548 05:04:43,482 --> 05:04:47,562 plan and the tourism work. There's quite a bit of 3549 05:04:47,562 --> 05:04:49,802 work there that I think we'd have to think. Through 3550 05:04:49,802 --> 05:04:54,604 what can move forward. We don't currently have someone to 3551 05:04:54,604 --> 05:04:58,244 deliver those pieces, and Collingwood is pretty special in our 3552 05:04:58,244 --> 05:05:03,260 downtown. We've done over the years, a lot of things 3553 05:05:03,260 --> 05:05:06,620 with the bia's help. And support and in many cases, 3554 05:05:06,620 --> 05:05:11,032 funds. A lot of changes that make this, keep this 3555 05:05:11,032 --> 05:05:14,152 place really special. And I think that piece of investment. 3556 05:05:15,586 --> 05:05:19,425 Is not essential. It's council's discretion, but it is, I 3557 05:05:19,425 --> 05:05:24,153 think, an important one to continuing. This track record of 3558 05:05:24,153 --> 05:05:29,534 unusual success. Okay. Thank you, Councilor Baines. Thank you, Mayor 3559 05:05:29,534 --> 05:05:34,214 Hamlin. Through you to Ed Peg, just on this? 54,000. 3560 05:05:34,214 --> 05:05:37,214 I'm assuming that if we did not or rescinded. This 3561 05:05:37,214 --> 05:05:40,374 54,000 to take it from eight months to twelve months 3562 05:05:40,374 --> 05:05:43,454 that you still have the budget for the eight months 3563 05:05:43,454 --> 05:05:47,261 continuing. It's just the top up from. Eight to twelve 3564 05:05:47,261 --> 05:05:51,716 that the 54 would remove. Go ahead. Thank you. Through 3565 05:05:51,716 --> 05:05:53,676 the merit of councilor Baines. That is correct. So we 3566 05:05:53,676 --> 05:05:59,451 would still have the eight month contract. Another possibility for 3567 05:05:59,451 --> 05:06:03,291 council's consideration would be a twelve month contract that would 3568 05:06:03,291 --> 05:06:08,251 eliminate benefit costs. But allow for position continuity. Thank you. 3569 05:06:09,505 --> 05:06:12,705 So could you just clarify that? What would the cost 3570 05:06:12,705 --> 05:06:17,522 of that be, do you know? That's a third, I 3571 05:06:17,522 --> 05:06:23,392 guess. Is the third benefit. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry, I 3572 05:06:23,392 --> 05:06:27,849 just spoke at a turn. Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. We 3573 05:06:27,849 --> 05:06:30,209 do have about 30% is what we budget for full 3574 05:06:30,209 --> 05:06:33,755 time. And then about 14% because we still have to 3575 05:06:33,755 --> 05:06:36,515 pay CPP and EI and those kind of benefits. It's 3576 05:06:36,515 --> 05:06:40,755 just not the health. And Omars is actually optional for 3577 05:06:40,755 --> 05:06:44,328 part. Time as well. So what would the savings be 3578 05:06:44,328 --> 05:06:47,368 if we did a twelve month contract as opposed to. 3579 05:06:49,321 --> 05:06:56,299 Twelve. Month full time person. It would be about $8,000 3580 05:06:56,299 --> 05:07:05,806 in savings of that 54,000. Okay, thank you. Councilor Potts. 3581 05:07:05,806 --> 05:07:11,121 Councilor? You already spoke, councilor ring. Yes. Thank you, Mayor 3582 05:07:11,121 --> 05:07:15,794 Hamlet. We're talking about two different jobs here. Are we 3583 05:07:15,794 --> 05:07:20,409 going to vote on them separately? We are okay. Because 3584 05:07:20,409 --> 05:07:24,449 I could probably go one either way, but I want 3585 05:07:24,449 --> 05:07:28,433 to make sure because. If it's a package deal, it 3586 05:07:28,433 --> 05:07:32,997 might not go the way I would normally. Okay. Did 3587 05:07:32,997 --> 05:07:34,437 you want to say anything else? Yeah, I was just 3588 05:07:34,437 --> 05:07:39,026 going to say. We got off the first one. The. 3589 05:07:40,606 --> 05:07:47,927 Development. One economic development. I supported the first time. For 3590 05:07:47,927 --> 05:07:50,127 the reasons I'm going to support it again this time. 3591 05:07:51,751 --> 05:07:54,231 We got two master plans that both recommended that we 3592 05:07:54,231 --> 05:07:57,511 had somebody administrate the programs. For each one of them. 3593 05:07:57,511 --> 05:07:59,751 And instead of getting two people, we're going to do 3594 05:07:59,751 --> 05:08:02,928 it. With two, which I think is reasonable. And because. 3595 05:08:04,717 --> 05:08:08,208 It's not. Adding any extra money to the taxpayer. I 3596 05:08:08,208 --> 05:08:10,248 could support it as long as it's being paid through 3597 05:08:10,248 --> 05:08:12,288 Matt. So that's why I voted for the first time, 3598 05:08:12,288 --> 05:08:15,368 and I will support it again this time. Okay? Thank 3599 05:08:15,368 --> 05:08:20,864 you. Mayor thank you, Mayor Hamlin. And on that particular 3600 05:08:20,864 --> 05:08:25,515 position, I'm looking at it differently than it's been explained 3601 05:08:25,515 --> 05:08:32,649 because. The four that group together for the 390,000, which 3602 05:08:32,649 --> 05:08:38,057 was the 2025. Mat that we had to work with. 3603 05:08:39,691 --> 05:08:46,912 We've approved the coordinator out of that. 2027 would still 3604 05:08:46,912 --> 05:08:50,032 have to be decided on, and I'm looking at that 3605 05:08:50,032 --> 05:08:53,512 as quite possibly coming back onto the municipal tax base. 3606 05:08:55,960 --> 05:08:59,940 So. How it will continue to be paid. I'm looking 3607 05:08:59,940 --> 05:09:04,892 at it differently than others, I guess. The other concern 3608 05:09:04,892 --> 05:09:13,066 I have is. We are putting $215,000 in for implementation 3609 05:09:13,066 --> 05:09:16,804 of the plan. So I'd like to think that there 3610 05:09:16,804 --> 05:09:21,037 may be some room there to figure out. As CEO 3611 05:09:21,037 --> 05:09:24,637 Skinner just referred to how to implement some of those 3612 05:09:24,637 --> 05:09:29,769 quick moving things in that first year. And then make 3613 05:09:29,769 --> 05:09:35,632 the decision about the coordinator in 2027. So I'm supportive 3614 05:09:35,632 --> 05:09:39,895 of. Both things that are being put forward. And just 3615 05:09:39,895 --> 05:09:42,655 wanted to explain that I'm looking at the development coordinator 3616 05:09:42,655 --> 05:09:45,575 differently. Yes, it's. In Matt. I understand that, but it 3617 05:09:45,575 --> 05:09:47,855 still means we're spending money. It's just a different alternate. 3618 05:09:47,855 --> 05:09:52,650 It's an alternate revenue source. And it's going to be 3619 05:09:52,650 --> 05:09:56,010 an ongoing expense. And right now, I don't see it 3620 05:09:56,010 --> 05:09:59,690 being covered by 2027, Matt, because we haven't made any 3621 05:09:59,690 --> 05:10:04,937 decisions about that. So those are my comments. Okay. Thank 3622 05:10:04,937 --> 05:10:11,195 you. Councilor Jeffrey thank you, Mayor Hamlin. So just as 3623 05:10:11,195 --> 05:10:15,635 clarification, I know in previous budgets. I've asked about making 3624 05:10:15,635 --> 05:10:19,875 positions contract and HR told me that even if you 3625 05:10:19,875 --> 05:10:22,675 make them contract for twelve months. After two years they 3626 05:10:22,675 --> 05:10:27,136 become full time benefited jobs. So I would just like 3627 05:10:27,136 --> 05:10:30,096 to have some clarity on that as to where the 3628 05:10:30,096 --> 05:10:32,456 benefit would be. To go to twelve months when after 3629 05:10:32,456 --> 05:10:35,424 two years it reverts into. A full time job in 3630 05:10:35,424 --> 05:10:38,726 any event. Executive director Pink. 3631 05:10:46,015 --> 05:10:48,975 Thank you. Chair through to councilor Jeffrey so the position 3632 05:10:48,975 --> 05:10:53,055 does not automatically revert into a continuous full time position 3633 05:10:53,055 --> 05:10:55,775 under ESA. At some point, the municipality would have the 3634 05:10:55,775 --> 05:10:59,095 requirement to provide benefits but we wouldn't offer in a 3635 05:10:59,095 --> 05:11:02,175 contract that would trigger that requirement if we did not. 3636 05:11:02,175 --> 05:11:06,036 Have council approval to do so. Yeah. So I'm just 3637 05:11:06,036 --> 05:11:08,156 wondering why I would have been advised that maybe things 3638 05:11:08,156 --> 05:11:12,764 have changed. Since I asked that question. Go ahead. Is 3639 05:11:12,764 --> 05:11:15,604 that gifter? Sorry. My apologies. Maybe I wasn't clear if 3640 05:11:15,604 --> 05:11:19,884 we have. Long term contracts. We do provide benefits, but 3641 05:11:19,884 --> 05:11:23,204 the intention with the HR support moving to a twelve 3642 05:11:23,204 --> 05:11:25,964 month is that we wouldn't retain the same employee in 3643 05:11:25,964 --> 05:11:33,101 that position long enough that it would. Trigger benefits unless 3644 05:11:33,101 --> 05:11:38,884 we had council approval to do so. Thank you. Okay, 3645 05:11:38,884 --> 05:11:40,324 well, I'm going to bring this to a vote in 3646 05:11:40,324 --> 05:11:43,324 a minute. I'll just address. I want to just offer 3647 05:11:43,324 --> 05:11:49,800 my thoughts about. The person hired. If a person is 3648 05:11:49,800 --> 05:11:54,395 hired. To implement the downtown master plan and the tourism 3649 05:11:54,395 --> 05:11:57,995 master plan through the map funds. This will be a 3650 05:11:57,995 --> 05:12:03,241 decision, of course. Of the Tourism Collingwood board as to 3651 05:12:03,241 --> 05:12:07,796 how. They're going to be using their funding. And they 3652 05:12:07,796 --> 05:12:10,316 could always choose not to have a staff person, but 3653 05:12:10,316 --> 05:12:14,905 then nothing would happen. So I feel fairly certain that 3654 05:12:14,905 --> 05:12:18,705 that position, as staff has indicated so far, would continue 3655 05:12:18,705 --> 05:12:24,437 on as a mat funding funded position. And. If it 3656 05:12:24,437 --> 05:12:28,258 was going to come. On to the general tax base. 3657 05:12:28,258 --> 05:12:30,938 That'll be a decision for council at a future budget. 3658 05:12:30,938 --> 05:12:33,858 Meeting. I don't think we can worry about what's going 3659 05:12:33,858 --> 05:12:37,915 to happen and whether council approve or not approve? A 3660 05:12:37,915 --> 05:12:41,715 position in two years from now, so I just wanted 3661 05:12:41,715 --> 05:12:44,315 to offer my view on that, okay? So we're going 3662 05:12:44,315 --> 05:12:49,235 to sever these. So for the firstly vote on eliminating 3663 05:12:49,235 --> 05:12:55,925 the economic development coordinator. Position. All those in favor? Okay. 3664 05:12:59,087 --> 05:13:03,311 One, two in favor and those opposed? So that fails. 3665 05:13:05,323 --> 05:13:13,660 And the second position. Your memo, your emotion. Was to 3666 05:13:13,660 --> 05:13:20,579 eliminate that position. Okay. And there's been a suggestion from 3667 05:13:20,579 --> 05:13:25,736 our executive director that it become a contract position. So 3668 05:13:25,736 --> 05:13:28,056 I should, I guess, ask if anyone wanted to put 3669 05:13:28,056 --> 05:13:32,280 that amendment on the table. Is that the correct order, 3670 05:13:32,280 --> 05:13:36,634 or do we vote his motion first? Okay. All right. 3671 05:13:36,634 --> 05:13:46,062 Okay, good. All right. So to eliminate. The $54,000. For 3672 05:13:46,062 --> 05:13:49,662 the HR person to go from part time to full 3673 05:13:49,662 --> 05:13:57,452 time. All those in favor? 12345 and those opposed? 1234 3674 05:13:57,452 --> 05:14:04,514 that passes. Okay. All right. Anything else? Deputy mayor. Thank 3675 05:14:04,514 --> 05:14:09,385 you, Mayor Hamlin. And through you to treasure Graham. We've 3676 05:14:09,385 --> 05:14:15,728 made adjustment. For the fact that we approved. Earlier in 3677 05:14:15,728 --> 05:14:21,522 the council meeting, the planning department. First year of phase 3678 05:14:21,522 --> 05:14:26,010 in. For the new fees. We also approved the building 3679 05:14:26,010 --> 05:14:32,615 department. Changes. So I wondered if maybe the 125 takes 3680 05:14:32,615 --> 05:14:35,622 that into account. So I guess that would be my 3681 05:14:35,622 --> 05:14:39,793 question. I would have thought there'd be some impact that 3682 05:14:39,793 --> 05:14:42,353 wasn't already in the budget. Because you weren't doing that. 3683 05:14:42,353 --> 05:14:45,793 Because it hadn't been passed. So is the 125. Include 3684 05:14:45,793 --> 05:14:50,598 boast planning and building department. Yes, go ahead. No, it's 3685 05:14:50,598 --> 05:14:55,393 planning only. The building. A fee increase will help increase 3686 05:14:55,393 --> 05:14:59,196 our building stabilization reserve fund. As we were at the 3687 05:14:59,196 --> 05:15:02,400 end of 2024. We were in a shortfall of our 3688 05:15:02,400 --> 05:15:05,960 targeted balance, which is to fund two years of almost 3689 05:15:05,960 --> 05:15:10,000 $1 million. So each year when I do, my annual 3690 05:15:10,000 --> 05:15:12,360 statement of reserve funds, and I apologize. Because I think 3691 05:15:12,360 --> 05:15:14,760 this question was asked when I was ejected to get 3692 05:15:14,760 --> 05:15:19,749 some water earlier. That target balance is based. On the 3693 05:15:19,749 --> 05:15:23,069 prior year actuals. So this year, when I report on 3694 05:15:23,069 --> 05:15:26,429 my annual statement, it will be a combination of 2025 3695 05:15:26,429 --> 05:15:29,509 actuals of what it actually costs the building department plus 3696 05:15:29,509 --> 05:15:33,269 the 2026 budget, and that will determine what our minimum 3697 05:15:33,269 --> 05:15:35,989 target is to get to the two years right now 3698 05:15:35,989 --> 05:15:40,731 because of the way our building permit revenue. Has seen 3699 05:15:40,731 --> 05:15:45,775 a decline in activity. We are in a shortfall in 3700 05:15:45,775 --> 05:15:48,735 that building civilization reserve fund. So any increase of the 3701 05:15:48,735 --> 05:15:52,295 fees. That were appropriately approved will be going to help 3702 05:15:52,295 --> 05:15:56,703 replenish. That reserve fund. Just as a follow up, if 3703 05:15:56,703 --> 05:16:02,815 I may, Mayor Hamlin, then can you tell me. What 3704 05:16:02,815 --> 05:16:09,183 the quantum is. A year with those increased fees. I 3705 05:16:09,183 --> 05:16:16,741 do not have that information at hand. Look to director 3706 05:16:16,741 --> 05:16:19,301 Valentine as the author of that report to see if 3707 05:16:19,301 --> 05:16:21,741 she could quantify it. If not, I'm happy to work 3708 05:16:21,741 --> 05:16:24,581 with Director Valentine and get back to you in January. 3709 05:16:25,843 --> 05:16:29,043 Chair. I apologize. I don't have that number. It's a 3710 05:16:29,043 --> 05:16:33,363 rate support budget, so. It doesn't impact the operational levy, 3711 05:16:33,363 --> 05:16:41,271 so I wasn't expecting that question tonight. I guess that's 3712 05:16:41,271 --> 05:16:46,491 where I'm struggling. I'm thinking of maybe. Trying to have 3713 05:16:46,491 --> 05:16:51,595 it impact the operating levy because. I understand. We talked 3714 05:16:51,595 --> 05:16:55,944 about needing to have two years there. And hopefully we 3715 05:16:55,944 --> 05:16:58,976 can accumulate that. But that's going to be close to 3716 05:16:58,976 --> 05:17:01,961 two and a half million dollars. That's just going to 3717 05:17:01,961 --> 05:17:05,481 sit there for the what ifs, if no revenue comes 3718 05:17:05,481 --> 05:17:09,202 in. And we already have 1.4 million at the end 3719 05:17:09,202 --> 05:17:15,158 of 2024. So. I was thinking that that might be 3720 05:17:15,158 --> 05:17:21,282 another. Source to help with those changes. So we don't 3721 05:17:21,282 --> 05:17:23,442 have that information, though. So I'm not going to put 3722 05:17:23,442 --> 05:17:30,024 anything on the floor. Unfortunately. The recommendations. 3723 05:17:34,023 --> 05:17:35,823 I'm going to ask for them to be severed because. 3724 05:17:37,486 --> 05:17:39,846 I'm not going to support the special capital levy and 3725 05:17:39,846 --> 05:17:44,493 capital levy increases. I'm the one who brought forward the 3726 05:17:44,493 --> 05:17:47,613 extra increases in the last two budgets for Amp. But 3727 05:17:47,613 --> 05:17:49,653 as I said, that was based on being able to 3728 05:17:49,653 --> 05:17:55,117 get the operating impacts down. And we aren't able to 3729 05:17:55,117 --> 05:18:02,369 do that. I got confidence that I know. Large millions 3730 05:18:02,369 --> 05:18:04,409 of dollars. I already explained that in a couple of 3731 05:18:04,409 --> 05:18:09,233 other meetings. I guess. Estimated about $4 million is going 3732 05:18:09,233 --> 05:18:16,718 into lifecycle reserve for 2025. That wasn't expected. So. I'm 3733 05:18:16,718 --> 05:18:21,798 definitely a proponent for. Getting asset management. In the best 3734 05:18:21,798 --> 05:18:26,627 shape possible. But. When we vote on those two recommendations, 3735 05:18:26,627 --> 05:18:29,147 I'm not going to support the capital change, just because 3736 05:18:29,147 --> 05:18:35,678 the overall impact is too high. Thank you. What is 3737 05:18:35,678 --> 05:18:40,250 the overall impact of those two levees? Treasure Graham. Of 3738 05:18:40,250 --> 05:18:43,330 the two. Capital levy specifically? Or do you mean where 3739 05:18:43,330 --> 05:18:46,730 we're at now, that council? Has reduced this. Actually, both. 3740 05:18:46,730 --> 05:18:48,730 I had both on my mind. So thank you for 3741 05:18:48,730 --> 05:18:53,010 clarifying with the 54,000 reduction, which includes the increase to 3742 05:18:53,010 --> 05:19:01,085 the two levees. We're at. A tax Collingwood rate of 3743 05:19:01,085 --> 05:19:07,460 2.43. And a blended rate of 2.39. The special capital 3744 05:19:07,460 --> 05:19:11,340 levy and the general capital levy have a year over 3745 05:19:11,340 --> 05:19:16,020 year change of $77,000 for the special capital in 153,000. 3746 05:19:20,165 --> 05:19:25,411 For the general capital levy, which. Is just shy of 3747 05:19:25,411 --> 05:19:29,931 half a percent impact. That's close enough. Need it. Okay. 3748 05:19:36,157 --> 05:19:41,936 That's good. Councilor McCullough. Sorry, just a quick clarification question 3749 05:19:41,936 --> 05:19:47,931 for Director Graham. Was the accelerator. Fund reduction factored in 3750 05:19:47,931 --> 05:19:55,725 that as well. Thank you. Any other comments? Councilor Baines. 3751 05:19:59,593 --> 05:20:02,793 I understand and respect that deputy mayor's point about reducing. 3752 05:20:03,953 --> 05:20:12,211 The capital levy. But. In the same response, I suppose 3753 05:20:12,211 --> 05:20:15,091 I would say I cannot an all good conscience vote 3754 05:20:15,091 --> 05:20:18,350 to do. That. At the same time, I realize your 3755 05:20:18,350 --> 05:20:22,411 position, and I hope you realize mine. Because. I just 3756 05:20:22,411 --> 05:20:24,011 want to put as much money as we can afford. 3757 05:20:24,011 --> 05:20:26,451 And I understand your response, but. Just want to let 3758 05:20:26,451 --> 05:20:32,023 you know. Thank you. Yeah, sure. You do, councilor Baines, 3759 05:20:32,023 --> 05:20:34,903 especially after this weekend we've just been through. We have? 3760 05:20:34,903 --> 05:20:38,223 To be ready. And if we need to line every 3761 05:20:38,223 --> 05:20:41,303 water pipe or replace them or whatever needs to be 3762 05:20:41,303 --> 05:20:47,675 done. And I know we're not talking anymore. About. Hiring 3763 05:20:47,675 --> 05:20:50,715 a person to look after our capital assets. But as 3764 05:20:50,715 --> 05:20:55,668 much as we can put into. Maintaining our capital and 3765 05:20:55,668 --> 05:21:00,909 improving it. This is a very modest. Amount. And it 3766 05:21:00,909 --> 05:21:03,909 amounts to, I think it was a 4% increase, which 3767 05:21:03,909 --> 05:21:07,420 is good because. In our last meeting, we drove the 3768 05:21:07,420 --> 05:21:10,020 increase down to zero. So next year, if we were 3769 05:21:10,020 --> 05:21:13,455 to put anything into these categories. You have to start 3770 05:21:13,455 --> 05:21:18,078 at 4% and then add on top. Start at 9%. 3771 05:21:18,078 --> 05:21:20,598 That's what the amount was originally. Right? So this at 3772 05:21:20,598 --> 05:21:26,883 least we're starting it for. Anyway, I have concerns also, 3773 05:21:26,883 --> 05:21:31,202 but. All right. Are there any other comments for tonight? 3774 05:21:33,904 --> 05:21:39,683 Okay. So. I'm going to divide the emotion on the 3775 05:21:39,683 --> 05:21:43,283 table into three. So the first one is. That we 3776 05:21:43,283 --> 05:21:49,518 receive. This third budget draft. Are you moving that? Yes. 3777 05:21:49,518 --> 05:21:55,121 Okay, good. And seconded, Councilor Dougherty. The main motion we've 3778 05:21:55,121 --> 05:21:57,841 got other than seconder? Oh, for all of it. But 3779 05:21:57,841 --> 05:22:02,328 I was going to vote on it separately. Okay, so 3780 05:22:02,328 --> 05:22:06,128 to receive it, all those in favor? Unanimous. Okay. The 3781 05:22:06,128 --> 05:22:10,804 next part was to approve the allocation. Of the opp. 3782 05:22:12,926 --> 05:22:17,206 Okay. Approve the allocation of the $336 related to the 3783 05:22:17,206 --> 05:22:23,064 23 op reconciliation. To the 2025 fiscal year to be 3784 05:22:23,064 --> 05:22:28,626 funded from our operating surplus. All those in favor? That's 3785 05:22:28,626 --> 05:22:34,512 unanimous. Okay. And the council approved modest and proportionate increases 3786 05:22:34,512 --> 05:22:37,872 to the general capital levy and special capital. Levy, resulting 3787 05:22:37,872 --> 05:22:46,432 in additional funding of $133,203 and 66,077 $7 in order 3788 05:22:46,432 --> 05:22:50,632 to support asset renewal priorities identified in the town's asset. 3789 05:22:51,364 --> 05:22:55,677 Management. Management plan. And we'll stop there. All those in 3790 05:22:55,677 --> 05:23:04,271 favor? I thought you just did. I thought I heard 3791 05:23:04,271 --> 05:23:08,031 it. Okay, so what we have here for this art 3792 05:23:08,031 --> 05:23:11,671 then? And so stopping. About before we get to maintaining 3793 05:23:11,671 --> 05:23:15,391 the blended tax rate increase? Go ahead. Thank you. And 3794 05:23:15,391 --> 05:23:20,816 I just. Want to be clear. I'm a proponent for 3795 05:23:20,816 --> 05:23:23,976 taking care of our assets. I didn't say anything about 3796 05:23:23,976 --> 05:23:27,233 that. What happened this weekend is the water, and that 3797 05:23:27,233 --> 05:23:30,793 is user based, it's rate based. It's not municipal tax. 3798 05:23:32,781 --> 05:23:40,329 $200,000 when you're putting 4 million. in the year already 3799 05:23:39,569 --> 05:23:42,947 Is substantial. And then on top of that, we've got 3800 05:23:42,947 --> 05:23:45,547 the unrealized gains that are in the upwards of $7 3801 05:23:45,547 --> 05:23:49,764 million amount. That. I just can't have those kinds of 3802 05:23:49,764 --> 05:23:55,074 investment returns coming. To us and then not turning around 3803 05:23:55,074 --> 05:23:57,714 and trying to help out the taxpayer at the end 3804 05:23:57,714 --> 05:24:01,233 of the day. So I'm not going to support this. 3805 05:24:03,087 --> 05:24:07,880 Okay. Thank you, treasure. Graham. I just wanted to provide 3806 05:24:07,880 --> 05:24:11,936 some clarification. It's not $4 million that's being allocated to 3807 05:24:11,936 --> 05:24:14,496 the lifecycle reserve, so. As I spoke in the prior 3808 05:24:14,496 --> 05:24:20,336 council meeting, the additional investment income is allocated proportionately across 3809 05:24:20,336 --> 05:24:25,776 our discretion. Our obligatory and discretionary reserve funds. The biggest 3810 05:24:25,776 --> 05:24:28,456 portion of that will actually be going to development charge 3811 05:24:28,456 --> 05:24:32,544 reserve funds, which. Does not support asset renewal. I believe 3812 05:24:32,544 --> 05:24:38,619 I calculated a closer amount. It's about 1 million of 3813 05:24:38,619 --> 05:24:43,684 that would be. Going to lifecycle, but not the 4 3814 05:24:43,684 --> 05:24:48,484 million, just to be clear. Thank you for clarifying that 3815 05:24:48,484 --> 05:24:52,587 depth. From there, I'll clarify too. I understand that has 3816 05:24:52,587 --> 05:24:55,907 to do with the investment income, but we put 1.7 3817 05:24:55,907 --> 05:25:01,147 million of general Reserve adjustment over into lifecycle reserve. And 3818 05:25:01,147 --> 05:25:06,171 then I was taking into account the extra. Surplus that 3819 05:25:06,171 --> 05:25:10,011 came in for 2024, and the surplus that was forecast, 3820 05:25:10,011 --> 05:25:13,091 which is a little smaller. Now. So when I accumulated 3821 05:25:13,091 --> 05:25:15,811 all those together, I got closer to $4 million. So 3822 05:25:15,811 --> 05:25:18,411 that's. Where I was coming from when I was using 3823 05:25:18,411 --> 05:25:24,064 my figures. Okay. Anyone else want to speak on this 3824 05:25:24,064 --> 05:25:32,275 part? So, all those in favor? 12345. Those opposed. 3825 05:25:34,345 --> 05:25:38,475 Four that carries. And the blended tax rate increase at 3826 05:25:38,475 --> 05:25:43,796 this point. Jennifer. Treasurer Graham, could you tell us, is 3827 05:25:43,796 --> 05:25:48,973 it still 2.39%? Yes, it is. 2.395. So closer to 3828 05:25:48,973 --> 05:25:52,533 2.4 if we're rounding up. And the resident. The town 3829 05:25:52,533 --> 05:25:56,293 of Collingwood portion only is 2.43. Okay, so we don't. 3830 05:25:56,293 --> 05:25:58,653 Have to vote on that. That's just what we voted 3831 05:25:58,653 --> 05:26:02,719 on tonight. Okay, so that was good hard work we've 3832 05:26:02,719 --> 05:26:06,779 done over these meetings. And I appreciate that. 3833 05:26:13,847 --> 05:26:18,287 Have something to say. Councilor ring. You're not thinking, okay. 3834 05:26:19,085 --> 05:26:23,933 This is my first budget. Under the strong mayor legislation. 3835 05:26:25,672 --> 05:26:29,434 And while. The. Legislation certainly gives the mayor a lot 3836 05:26:29,434 --> 05:26:33,603 of authority. My priority was to make sure that this 3837 05:26:33,603 --> 05:26:38,619 budget would be grounded in our collaborative process. That Collingwood 3838 05:26:38,619 --> 05:26:42,059 knows, which, of course, includes council staff and our public. 3839 05:26:43,422 --> 05:26:47,915 And I was also clear. When I spoke to the 3840 05:26:47,915 --> 05:26:52,435 treasurer in the summer that our residents need stability. Families 3841 05:26:52,435 --> 05:26:56,155 are stretch businesses. Are really feeling it, and so that's 3842 05:26:56,155 --> 05:27:02,269 why. I asked staff to keep any increase to 2.75%. 3843 05:27:03,793 --> 05:27:05,633 While I am so pleased that tonight council has done 3844 05:27:05,633 --> 05:27:11,348 better than that. And 2.39% is a very good number 3845 05:27:11,348 --> 05:27:14,881 for our community. We know this is a difficult year. 3846 05:27:17,630 --> 05:27:20,510 Our growth is very limited. It's the lowest in many 3847 05:27:20,510 --> 05:27:24,110 years, which means we don't. Have additional assessment. We don't 3848 05:27:24,110 --> 05:27:29,654 have additional property taxes. And we're not unique. It's the 3849 05:27:29,654 --> 05:27:34,782 same story across the province. Everyone's dealing with this. So 3850 05:27:34,782 --> 05:27:37,862 I am grateful to staff. They are well aware of 3851 05:27:37,862 --> 05:27:40,582 this. And when they started the budget. Process. I know 3852 05:27:40,582 --> 05:27:44,902 they went through it line by line to reduce, defer 3853 05:27:44,902 --> 05:27:48,622 or eliminate where possible. While still keeping our long term 3854 05:27:48,622 --> 05:27:51,262 priorities and our core services. So thank you to the 3855 05:27:51,262 --> 05:27:55,435 treasurer and her team for. All the discipline and care 3856 05:27:55,435 --> 05:28:02,214 that's gone on. The median. Increase for the median assessed 3857 05:28:02,214 --> 05:28:04,934 home. Increase. I don't even know what it is, do 3858 05:28:04,934 --> 05:28:09,575 you? Know what it'll be now. Treasure. Yeah. Yes, I 3859 05:28:09,575 --> 05:28:17,101 do. It is $62. $61.90 will be the median increase 3860 05:28:17,101 --> 05:28:20,581 on an annual basis. Thank you. So part of this 3861 05:28:20,581 --> 05:28:26,903 increase reflexar continued. Commitment to affordable housing. And although we 3862 05:28:26,903 --> 05:28:32,798 had a few challenges. As councilor ring has pointed out, 3863 05:28:32,798 --> 05:28:36,838 this year we've directed $400,000 of property tax revenue into 3864 05:28:36,838 --> 05:28:39,958 that account. And we've allocated all of the funds from 3865 05:28:39,958 --> 05:28:44,204 the cuthbert. Estate for the same purpose. We know our 3866 05:28:44,204 --> 05:28:47,884 leadership in the affordable housing sector has been recognized by 3867 05:28:47,884 --> 05:28:51,724 the association of municipalities of Ontario, and I'm really looking 3868 05:28:51,724 --> 05:28:54,644 forward to hearing about this report later in our meeting. 3869 05:28:55,955 --> 05:28:58,899 Where we're going to hear about some new. Incentives to 3870 05:28:58,899 --> 05:29:03,483 make an even greater impact. In looking through the budget. 3871 05:29:03,483 --> 05:29:06,363 I am so pleased that we are continuing to make 3872 05:29:06,363 --> 05:29:12,198 important investments in our community. Such as completing the Wilson 3873 05:29:12,198 --> 05:29:16,558 Sheffield Park Fin 26, the dry dog Junction park, and 3874 05:29:16,558 --> 05:29:20,438 the outdoor roof rink. We'll be moving ahead with what 3875 05:29:20,438 --> 05:29:24,518 we're doing to get ourself. Into a good position for 3876 05:29:24,518 --> 05:29:28,559 the recreation center and the art center. Continuing construction on 3877 05:29:28,559 --> 05:29:33,439 our new water treatment plant major road resurfacing program to 3878 05:29:33,439 --> 05:29:37,852 improve over 30 sections of road. Two new fire trucks. 3879 05:29:37,852 --> 05:29:40,012 This is always a good one and so much more. 3880 05:29:41,641 --> 05:29:46,706 Finally. We've been reflecting on the past weekend. And we 3881 05:29:46,706 --> 05:29:49,666 saw the best of Collingwood, didn't we? Neighbors checking in 3882 05:29:49,666 --> 05:29:55,365 on neighbors, businesses, adapting. Residents showing patients and care. And 3883 05:29:55,365 --> 05:29:57,765 this shared sense of responsibilities, what this budget is built 3884 05:29:57,765 --> 05:30:01,085 on. I truly believe that this budget takes care of 3885 05:30:01,085 --> 05:30:05,640 today. Plans responsibly for tomorrow and protects what we've built 3886 05:30:05,640 --> 05:30:08,200 together. We've got a lot of things packed into this 3887 05:30:08,200 --> 05:30:11,754 budget tonight. I really want to thank staff. And all 3888 05:30:11,754 --> 05:30:13,274 of council for the hard work that's got us to 3889 05:30:13,274 --> 05:30:19,184 this point tonight. Okay, so with that. I think we're 3890 05:30:19,184 --> 05:30:24,590 changing seats. Councilor Perry. So we have a motion here, 3891 05:30:24,590 --> 05:30:31,150 that council herein move. Sorry. Okay. Motion to extend. Any 3892 05:30:31,150 --> 05:30:34,510 takers? Deputy mayor seconded by councilor Perry. All those in 3893 05:30:34,510 --> 05:30:41,463 favor. Unanimous. Okay. Now, we're having a motion council move 3894 05:30:41,463 --> 05:30:45,625 into committee the whole session. Move her in a seconder 3895 05:30:45,625 --> 05:30:49,884 for that. Councilor Bain, seconded by councilor Potts. All those 3896 05:30:49,884 --> 05:30:53,484 in favor? Unanimous. And so we'll just take a five 3897 05:30:53,484 --> 05:30:56,924 minute break while councilor Perry becomes chair. Perry and we 3898 05:30:56,924 --> 05:30:57,084 change. These. 3899 05:37:43,005 --> 05:37:52,837 Okay. There we go. Okay. Welcome to. Collingwood Committee of 3900 05:37:52,837 --> 05:37:57,597 the whole meeting for December 15, 2025. And we'll go 3901 05:37:57,597 --> 05:38:05,773 right to staff reports. 15.2.1, p 2025. 30 municipal capital 3902 05:38:05,773 --> 05:38:10,213 facility bylaw and affordable housing incentive pilot program, and I'll 3903 05:38:10,213 --> 05:38:14,813 turn it over to director Valentine. Thank you, chair Perry. 3904 05:38:14,813 --> 05:38:17,933 We have a comprehensive presentation for you today on the 3905 05:38:17,933 --> 05:38:22,877 topic of incentivizing. Affordable housing, so I'll keep my introductory 3906 05:38:22,877 --> 05:38:27,534 remarks relatively brief. The preparation of an incentive program to 3907 05:38:27,534 --> 05:38:31,654 flow benefits to for profit and nonprofit developers or housing 3908 05:38:31,654 --> 05:38:35,854 organizations to support the construction of affordable housing is one 3909 05:38:35,854 --> 05:38:39,654 of the key recommendations of the council endorsed affordable housing 3910 05:38:39,654 --> 05:38:44,374 master plan, and it's been on part of staff's 2025 3911 05:38:44,374 --> 05:38:48,980 work program. Under. The affordable housing support subservice. While there 3912 05:38:48,980 --> 05:38:52,820 are a few different ways to structure incentive programs. The 3913 05:38:52,820 --> 05:38:57,203 master plan. Recommends a municipal capital facilities bylaw, which I 3914 05:38:57,203 --> 05:39:01,083 will trip on over and over again, or MCFB as 3915 05:39:01,083 --> 05:39:06,217 the most effective tool for Collingwood. And our context, and 3916 05:39:06,217 --> 05:39:10,724 it is a stackable form of incentives. With those offered 3917 05:39:10,724 --> 05:39:14,084 from other orders of government. So, after many months of 3918 05:39:14,084 --> 05:39:19,484 research, jurisdictional scanning, background work, legal review and documentation preparation. 3919 05:39:19,484 --> 05:39:24,164 We have a proposal package for council or committee's consideration. 3920 05:39:24,164 --> 05:39:28,084 Which pairs the MCFB with a strategic policy to guide 3921 05:39:28,084 --> 05:39:32,361 implementation of the program. Given the level of funding and 3922 05:39:32,361 --> 05:39:35,041 resources available, we are suggesting that we start with the 3923 05:39:35,041 --> 05:39:38,161 launch of a pilot program as an initial step, but 3924 05:39:38,161 --> 05:39:41,561 we've also set up the parent bylaw. To facilitate program 3925 05:39:41,561 --> 05:39:45,253 expansion in the future. Before handing the floor to coordinator 3926 05:39:45,253 --> 05:39:49,293 Sousa. We wanted to recognize our colleagues in finance who 3927 05:39:49,293 --> 05:39:52,893 have been integral partners in this initiative and will continue 3928 05:39:52,893 --> 05:39:56,693 to support us through program implementation should it be approved. 3929 05:39:56,693 --> 05:39:58,853 And to the affordable housing Task force, who got a 3930 05:39:58,853 --> 05:40:03,213 sneak peek of the draft proposed framework and they provided 3931 05:40:03,213 --> 05:40:06,564 valuable. Insights that have been incorporated into the materials that 3932 05:40:06,564 --> 05:40:09,524 are before you today. We also wanted to share our 3933 05:40:09,524 --> 05:40:13,764 excitement over bringing this incentive framework forward as another key 3934 05:40:13,764 --> 05:40:18,404 milestone in Collingwood's recognized and continued leadership in the affordable 3935 05:40:18,404 --> 05:40:23,044 housing space among small urban municipalities. So chair with those 3936 05:40:23,044 --> 05:40:25,661 remarks. You're a concurrence. So I'd pass the floor to 3937 05:40:25,661 --> 05:40:30,421 coordinator de. Sousa. Thank you. And good evening, chair Perry, 3938 05:40:30,421 --> 05:40:34,301 Mayor Hamlin, and members of council. I'm back to discuss 3939 05:40:34,301 --> 05:40:38,901 the proposed municipal capital facility by law and incentive pilot 3940 05:40:38,901 --> 05:40:43,061 programs that will allow the town to offer financial support 3941 05:40:43,061 --> 05:40:47,200 to enable the creation. of affordable housing so we'll go 3942 05:40:47,200 --> 05:40:49,690 to the next slide please Through the affordable housing master 3943 05:40:49,690 --> 05:40:54,590 plan process. It became quite clear that nonprofits and for 3944 05:40:54,590 --> 05:40:59,110 profit sectors will struggle to build affordable housing without significant 3945 05:40:59,110 --> 05:41:03,335 financial support from all orders of government. The town does 3946 05:41:03,335 --> 05:41:07,695 not currently have a legal framework in place to incentivize 3947 05:41:07,695 --> 05:41:11,535 affordable housing. In a fair and transparent manner. A municipal 3948 05:41:11,535 --> 05:41:15,095 capital facility bylaw is a framework to guide fair and 3949 05:41:15,095 --> 05:41:19,375 transparent provision of affordable or of support to nonprofit and 3950 05:41:19,375 --> 05:41:23,455 for profit housing providers. The Mc. MCFB is also a 3951 05:41:23,455 --> 05:41:27,415 key recommendation from the affordable housing master plan to ensure 3952 05:41:27,415 --> 05:41:31,055 the town can support developers and housing providers that are 3953 05:41:31,055 --> 05:41:35,317 hoping to create affordable housing. Next slide, please. So what 3954 05:41:35,317 --> 05:41:39,677 is an MCFB? An MCFB is a tool legislated under 3955 05:41:39,677 --> 05:41:44,237 the Municipal act that allows municipalities to offer financial incentives 3956 05:41:44,237 --> 05:41:48,277 to for profit and nonprofit housing providers for affordable units. 3957 05:41:49,518 --> 05:41:52,958 The act enables a range of incentives that a municipality 3958 05:41:52,958 --> 05:41:57,318 can provide, including giving or lending money. Giving leasing or 3959 05:41:57,318 --> 05:42:03,038 selling property, guaranteeing borrowing, reducing wholly or partially development charges 3960 05:42:03,038 --> 05:42:06,897 and property taxes. Now, before we get any further, I 3961 05:42:06,897 --> 05:42:09,777 did want to make a distinction between the MCFB and 3962 05:42:09,777 --> 05:42:13,617 the incentive program. So the MCFB is what needs to 3963 05:42:13,617 --> 05:42:17,697 be in place before municipality can start offering financial assistance. 3964 05:42:19,477 --> 05:42:22,117 And it's really a framework that will guide how the 3965 05:42:22,117 --> 05:42:25,317 town is to provide that financial assistance to housing providers. 3966 05:42:26,953 --> 05:42:32,925 The associated incentive. Pilot program will inform how municipal support 3967 05:42:32,925 --> 05:42:39,583 will be made available. To eligible. Projects, including project guidelines, 3968 05:42:39,583 --> 05:42:45,303 eligibility criteria, type of incentives available, application and review process, 3969 05:42:45,303 --> 05:42:49,663 details regarding agreements and reporting, among other things. Next slide, 3970 05:42:49,663 --> 05:42:54,166 please. Now, another common tool that you may be more 3971 05:42:54,166 --> 05:42:56,806 familiar with is a community improvement plan or a Cip. 3972 05:42:58,366 --> 05:43:01,406 This is a similar tool and is actually more popular 3973 05:43:01,406 --> 05:43:04,046 among lower tier municipalities, which is why you might be 3974 05:43:04,046 --> 05:43:08,046 more familiar with it. CIPs and MCFBs generally have the 3975 05:43:08,046 --> 05:43:10,766 same intent and they can do the same things. However, 3976 05:43:10,766 --> 05:43:14,486 they have a few key differences, including that CIPs are 3977 05:43:14,486 --> 05:43:18,246 enabled under the planning act. They require public meetings and. 3978 05:43:18,670 --> 05:43:22,190 They also carry appeal rates, so they're generally less flexible 3979 05:43:22,190 --> 05:43:25,230 than mcfbs, which is the reason that our master plan 3980 05:43:25,230 --> 05:43:28,910 consultants recommended us move forward with an MCFB for this 3981 05:43:28,910 --> 05:43:33,975 added flexibility. Next slide, please. Now, in order to design 3982 05:43:33,975 --> 05:43:36,695 a program that was in line with the town's current 3983 05:43:36,695 --> 05:43:41,815 level of funding and resources staff reviewed other municipalities incentive 3984 05:43:41,815 --> 05:43:46,775 programs across the province, and in 2020, NBLC which was 3985 05:43:46,775 --> 05:43:50,415 our consultants. For our master plan, they prepared a report 3986 05:43:50,415 --> 05:43:53,737 for the region of peel which. Included. A jurisdictional scan. 3987 05:43:55,293 --> 05:44:00,173 Of many municipalities across Ontario that have implemented incentive programs, 3988 05:44:00,173 --> 05:44:04,133 and the report really evaluated their overall strengths. And weaknesses. 3989 05:44:04,133 --> 05:44:07,093 And this report was really the starting point for the 3990 05:44:07,093 --> 05:44:11,851 research that followed. Staff focused our research on three different 3991 05:44:11,851 --> 05:44:16,731 programs across Ontario. The region of Peel's affordable rental Incentives 3992 05:44:16,731 --> 05:44:21,731 Program, or parap City of Peterborough's dual CIP and MCFB 3993 05:44:21,731 --> 05:44:24,891 program and closer to home is the city of Berry's 3994 05:44:24,891 --> 05:44:29,668 CIP program. Next slide, please. We learned a lot from 3995 05:44:29,668 --> 05:44:33,068 our research into these three programs and some of the 3996 05:44:33,068 --> 05:44:36,108 key learnings are provided on this slide, and I'll just 3997 05:44:36,108 --> 05:44:41,135 go over them briefly. We learned that per unit funding 3998 05:44:41,135 --> 05:44:45,655 requirements for projects will vary significantly across different projects. There's 3999 05:44:45,655 --> 05:44:49,655 no magic number that is consistent with all projects. You 4000 05:44:49,655 --> 05:44:52,415 will see in the next slides that the per unit 4001 05:44:52,415 --> 05:44:55,615 funding amount really depends on a variety of factors and, 4002 05:44:55,615 --> 05:45:00,192 of course, on project performance. We. Learned that incentivizing the 4003 05:45:00,192 --> 05:45:03,672 creation of rental housing is much easier to administer than 4004 05:45:03,672 --> 05:45:08,586 ownership. Tenure, and that's the recommended route. We learned that 4005 05:45:08,586 --> 05:45:12,906 it's important to provide flexible incentives rather than fixed incentives. 4006 05:45:14,170 --> 05:45:17,250 An example of a fixed incentive is like the grants 4007 05:45:17,250 --> 05:45:20,490 we have available through our rapid ARU program where we 4008 05:45:20,490 --> 05:45:25,642 provide $10,000 to every eligible applicant who gets approved. When 4009 05:45:25,642 --> 05:45:29,711 we're dealing with higher order incentive amounts, let's say. We 4010 05:45:29,711 --> 05:45:34,080 choose. A fixed incentive of $100,000, you run the risk 4011 05:45:34,080 --> 05:45:38,480 of either over incentivizing. Or underincentivizing a project. So the 4012 05:45:38,480 --> 05:45:44,000 recommendation is to provide flexible incentives where the applicant requests 4013 05:45:44,000 --> 05:45:47,360 a specific amount of money and provides rationale for that 4014 05:45:47,360 --> 05:45:52,167 amount being requested, including financial documentation. And then staff make 4015 05:45:52,167 --> 05:45:56,856 a decision or the evaluation committee makes a decision. Another 4016 05:45:56,856 --> 05:46:00,096 key step is to cap incentive amounts, especially when you're 4017 05:46:00,096 --> 05:46:04,056 offering flexible incentives. You can offer the flexible incentive up 4018 05:46:04,056 --> 05:46:06,496 to a certain maximum in order to not drain the 4019 05:46:06,496 --> 05:46:12,968 reserve fund. It's critical to enable stacking across funding programs. 4020 05:46:12,968 --> 05:46:16,568 So it's likely that any project that receives funding from 4021 05:46:16,568 --> 05:46:20,848 the town will require more funding over and above what 4022 05:46:20,848 --> 05:46:24,808 the town can provide. So it's important to leave your 4023 05:46:24,808 --> 05:46:29,226 program open enough to ensure that someone can easily. Access 4024 05:46:29,226 --> 05:46:34,308 other levels of funding. It's critical or recommended to have 4025 05:46:34,308 --> 05:46:37,868 an annual call for applications. It leads to consistency and 4026 05:46:37,868 --> 05:46:41,588 transparency by reviewing applications at the same time and not 4027 05:46:41,588 --> 05:46:45,749 on an ad hoc basis. And the last point here 4028 05:46:45,749 --> 05:46:49,749 is that most incentive programs that we looked at have 4029 05:46:49,749 --> 05:46:54,963 five plus million dollars available to offer through incentives. Most 4030 05:46:54,963 --> 05:46:58,003 of these programs have received funding from the Federal Housing 4031 05:46:58,003 --> 05:47:02,935 Accelerator Fund or the provincial build faster fund. And really, 4032 05:47:02,935 --> 05:47:05,735 the amount of funding you have available in your program 4033 05:47:05,735 --> 05:47:09,015 will dictate how that program is designed, the types of 4034 05:47:09,015 --> 05:47:12,859 incentives you can offer. And the affordability threshold as well. 4035 05:47:14,732 --> 05:47:17,892 Next slide, please. So I'll just give you an idea 4036 05:47:17,892 --> 05:47:20,652 of the level of funding that. Other programs had. The 4037 05:47:20,652 --> 05:47:24,292 next two slides include a quick overview of the results 4038 05:47:24,292 --> 05:47:26,772 from the region of Peel and the city of Berry's 4039 05:47:26,772 --> 05:47:29,812 programs. So this first slide is the region of Peel. 4040 05:47:29,812 --> 05:47:33,212 As you can see here, the per unit funding amounts 4041 05:47:33,212 --> 05:47:38,524 ranged from. $44,000 per unit on the low end. And 4042 05:47:38,524 --> 05:47:41,884 over $500,000 per unit on the high end. So it 4043 05:47:41,884 --> 05:47:44,284 was actually through my discussions with Peel region that I 4044 05:47:44,284 --> 05:47:46,924 learned that it's really important to cap your incentive amount. 4045 05:47:46,924 --> 05:47:49,684 Or else you can see these really high order per 4046 05:47:49,684 --> 05:47:54,111 unit incentives. And the lower incentive amount you see here 4047 05:47:54,111 --> 05:47:57,831 was delivered by a nonprofit housing provider. So the type 4048 05:47:57,831 --> 05:48:01,751 of applicant. Obtaining the funds can also determine the funding 4049 05:48:01,751 --> 05:48:06,551 required, and the last row here shows that from 2021 4050 05:48:06,551 --> 05:48:11,431 to 2023, Peel's program incented a total of 175 affordable 4051 05:48:11,431 --> 05:48:16,036 units. Utilizing $23 million in funding with an average per 4052 05:48:16,036 --> 05:48:22,423 unit incentive amount of 130,000. Next slide, please. The City 4053 05:48:22,423 --> 05:48:27,183 of Berry had $10 million available for their CIP program. 4054 05:48:28,887 --> 05:48:31,247 A portion of this was from their own reserve fund, 4055 05:48:31,247 --> 05:48:34,207 and many of the additional funds came from both the 4056 05:48:34,207 --> 05:48:38,706 province and the federal government to supplement their program. The 4057 05:48:38,706 --> 05:48:43,466 city released a CIP, not an MCFB, but the findings 4058 05:48:43,466 --> 05:48:47,026 are still applicable here because it was a per door 4059 05:48:47,026 --> 05:48:50,706 grant program, so it's still per unit funding. Again, you 4060 05:48:50,706 --> 05:48:53,946 can see here that the incentives required range from 200,000. 4061 05:48:55,361 --> 05:48:59,041 30,000 and as low as 3000 per unit. Those units 4062 05:48:59,041 --> 05:49:02,881 were actually delivered by the county. Of Simcoe. Next slide, 4063 05:49:02,881 --> 05:49:06,458 please. So those two slides were really meant to give 4064 05:49:06,458 --> 05:49:09,458 you an idea of other programs and the level of 4065 05:49:09,458 --> 05:49:15,258 funding required to incent affordability for the town's proposed pilot 4066 05:49:15,258 --> 05:49:19,498 program. We anticipate having about $1.5 million available in the 4067 05:49:19,498 --> 05:49:24,049 Affordable Housing Reserve fund in 2026. To offer through. The 4068 05:49:24,049 --> 05:49:28,993 incentive program. Given the available funding and the resource levels, 4069 05:49:28,993 --> 05:49:31,473 we propose to start with a pilot program that can 4070 05:49:31,473 --> 05:49:34,673 be expanded in future years if more funding becomes available. 4071 05:49:36,312 --> 05:49:38,232 The program name that we have come up with is 4072 05:49:38,232 --> 05:49:42,552 chip or Collingwood housing incentives pilot program and at a 4073 05:49:42,552 --> 05:49:48,401 high level. It includes capital grants for administrative efficiency. Two 4074 05:49:48,401 --> 05:49:52,921 funding streams to realize more units with limited funds, flexible 4075 05:49:52,921 --> 05:49:56,641 incentives capped at a certain maximum and we will only 4076 05:49:56,641 --> 05:49:59,641 incent affordable rental units. We're not going to be looking 4077 05:49:59,641 --> 05:50:04,295 at ownership. At this time. Next slide, please. The next 4078 05:50:04,295 --> 05:50:07,815 several slides will take you through the proposed chip program. 4079 05:50:07,815 --> 05:50:10,495 So at a high level, we're starting with two funding 4080 05:50:10,495 --> 05:50:14,695 streams. The first proposed stream is an affordable additional residential 4081 05:50:14,695 --> 05:50:18,215 unit stream. Or ARU stream. Under this stream, we are 4082 05:50:18,215 --> 05:50:22,375 proposing to offer flexible capital grants of up to $70,000 4083 05:50:22,375 --> 05:50:26,817 for. Affordable ar use offered for rent. This stream would 4084 05:50:26,817 --> 05:50:29,577 fund a minimum of one Aru per lot. And a 4085 05:50:29,577 --> 05:50:32,777 maximum of three air use per lot to align with 4086 05:50:32,777 --> 05:50:37,417 our zoning bylaw, the stream is geared towards smaller scale 4087 05:50:37,417 --> 05:50:41,177 developers and housing providers that are mainly focusing on infill 4088 05:50:41,177 --> 05:50:45,327 and intensification projects and ever. Since we did go up 4089 05:50:45,327 --> 05:50:49,182 to that four unit. Permitted on residential lots. As of 4090 05:50:49,182 --> 05:50:51,702 right, we're seeing a lot more of those developments happen. 4091 05:50:51,702 --> 05:50:55,049 So. If we can target those developments and see if 4092 05:50:55,049 --> 05:50:57,449 they can make them affordable, we think we could. Get 4093 05:50:57,449 --> 05:51:01,969 realized some units there. The second stream is the affordable 4094 05:51:01,969 --> 05:51:05,129 multi unit rental stream. And this stream is geared towards 4095 05:51:05,129 --> 05:51:08,809 larger scale developments, including buildings that meet the definition of 4096 05:51:08,809 --> 05:51:11,769 apartment under the zoning bylaw so these are buildings with 4097 05:51:11,769 --> 05:51:15,513 five or more. Residential units in them under this stream. 4098 05:51:16,999 --> 05:51:18,959 We propose that we would provide flexible capital grants of 4099 05:51:18,959 --> 05:51:23,279 up to $200,000 for affordable rental units. A minimum of 4100 05:51:23,279 --> 05:51:26,559 one unit within an apartment building must be affordable to 4101 05:51:26,559 --> 05:51:29,879 qualify for the funding and a maximum of five units 4102 05:51:29,879 --> 05:51:33,279 per project will be eligible in an effort to distribute 4103 05:51:33,279 --> 05:51:38,190 funding more evenly across projects. The program. Also has additional 4104 05:51:38,190 --> 05:51:42,030 flexibility to consider other built forms that might not meet 4105 05:51:42,030 --> 05:51:46,430 the definition of an apartment. If there are sufficient funds 4106 05:51:46,430 --> 05:51:50,522 available in our program. Next slide, please. Now, in terms 4107 05:51:50,522 --> 05:51:54,599 of program eligibility, We are proposing that applicants can either 4108 05:51:54,599 --> 05:51:58,869 be for profit or nonprofit housing providers. We propose, though, 4109 05:51:58,869 --> 05:52:03,090 that the evaluation matrix. Will be adjusted to award more 4110 05:52:03,090 --> 05:52:08,016 points to a nonprofit housing provider. For stream one, eligible 4111 05:52:08,016 --> 05:52:11,056 units must meet the definition of Aru per the town's 4112 05:52:11,056 --> 05:52:13,456 zoning bylaw and of course they must be offered at 4113 05:52:13,456 --> 05:52:18,096 affordable rents and for stream two eligible units. Include apartment 4114 05:52:18,096 --> 05:52:21,016 dwelling units that meet the definition of apartment in the 4115 05:52:21,016 --> 05:52:25,821 zoning bylaw, and units can be located. Within mixed use 4116 05:52:25,821 --> 05:52:29,301 buildings or buildings with a mix of a market and 4117 05:52:29,301 --> 05:52:34,164 affordable rents. But only the affordable. Units are eligible for 4118 05:52:34,164 --> 05:52:37,847 the funding. As I mentioned before, the town may consider 4119 05:52:37,847 --> 05:52:40,567 other built forms that don't meet the definition. Of apartment 4120 05:52:40,567 --> 05:52:45,727 dwelling, subject to program uptake and available funding. Next slide. 4121 05:52:47,962 --> 05:52:52,042 Now for affordability. So eligible units must meet the definition 4122 05:52:52,042 --> 05:52:55,322 of affordable and for the purposes of this program, we 4123 05:52:55,322 --> 05:52:59,242 propose to align the definition of affordable with the affordable 4124 05:52:59,242 --> 05:53:03,242 rental rates as determined by the provincial bulletin for the 4125 05:53:03,242 --> 05:53:08,206 exemption of development charges for affordable units the next. Slide 4126 05:53:08,206 --> 05:53:11,366 will provide a glimpse. Glimpse into what this exactly looks. 4127 05:53:13,130 --> 05:53:16,148 Like and what those numbers are set at currently. Affordable 4128 05:53:16,148 --> 05:53:19,508 units must be maintained as affordable for a minimum of 4129 05:53:19,508 --> 05:53:24,068 25 years, and to ensure the units are made available 4130 05:53:24,068 --> 05:53:27,188 to moderate income households, which is our overall target and 4131 05:53:27,188 --> 05:53:30,868 mandate for affordable housing. The town will cap the annual 4132 05:53:30,868 --> 05:53:35,508 tenant household income to $80,000 per year, which aligns with 4133 05:53:35,508 --> 05:53:38,817 the. Household income of the fourth to 6th income deciles. 4134 05:53:38,817 --> 05:53:44,223 Next slide, please. So. This chart here shows two different 4135 05:53:44,223 --> 05:53:48,463 options for setting the affordability threshold. The bolded numbers in 4136 05:53:48,463 --> 05:53:51,623 the bottom row shows the affordable rents that the program 4137 05:53:51,623 --> 05:53:56,082 will require. These align again with the province's affordable rates 4138 05:53:56,082 --> 05:54:00,442 for Collingwood for the purposes of DC exemptions. And we 4139 05:54:00,442 --> 05:54:03,962 wanted to align our program here so that applicants could 4140 05:54:03,962 --> 05:54:06,922 take advantage of the funding. From the town's program, so 4141 05:54:06,922 --> 05:54:10,170 the capital grants we have available. And they could take 4142 05:54:10,170 --> 05:54:13,330 advantage of the DC exemptions that the province is already 4143 05:54:13,330 --> 05:54:16,534 providing. So. This really allows for that stack ability that 4144 05:54:16,534 --> 05:54:21,685 we were hoping for. The top column shows the CMHC 4145 05:54:21,685 --> 05:54:25,405 average market rental data for Collingwood. It's a lot more 4146 05:54:25,405 --> 05:54:28,405 common for other programs to be more aligned with CMHC 4147 05:54:28,405 --> 05:54:31,845 AMR data. However, we wanted to go with the province's 4148 05:54:31,845 --> 05:54:36,310 numbers again to ensure stackability. But as you can see, 4149 05:54:36,310 --> 05:54:39,830 the affordable rates between the two different options are quite 4150 05:54:39,830 --> 05:54:47,068 similar. The program also includes some additional flexibility to revert 4151 05:54:47,068 --> 05:54:52,308 to the CMHC AMR metric if the province ceases the 4152 05:54:52,308 --> 05:54:56,268 production of the bulletin or changes the definition of affordability 4153 05:54:56,268 --> 05:55:00,628 that no longer aligns with our priorities. Now, it's challenging 4154 05:55:00,628 --> 05:55:03,996 to directly compare these. Numbers with our numbers in the 4155 05:55:03,996 --> 05:55:07,996 affordable housing master plan, as those numbers are not categorized 4156 05:55:07,996 --> 05:55:12,556 across unit type. They are categorized across income decile. However. 4157 05:55:13,970 --> 05:55:18,489 We've compared the numbers. And they do align well. The 4158 05:55:18,489 --> 05:55:21,169 range. The affordable range for our master plan is about 4159 05:55:21,169 --> 05:55:25,129 1100 to 1700, so it's all within. It's captured within 4160 05:55:25,129 --> 05:55:29,910 those provincial numbers as well. Next slide, please. Now, in 4161 05:55:29,910 --> 05:55:35,190 addition to affordability, there are several other requirements that projects 4162 05:55:35,190 --> 05:55:38,350 must meet under our proposed program. First of all, they 4163 05:55:38,350 --> 05:55:42,150 must be located in Collingwood. They must be new construction 4164 05:55:42,150 --> 05:55:45,790 resulting in net new affordable units. They must be on 4165 05:55:45,790 --> 05:55:48,830 lands owned by the applicant or affiliated with the applicant. 4166 05:55:49,782 --> 05:55:54,160 They can include mixed use or mixed income buildings. And 4167 05:55:54,160 --> 05:55:56,920 projects that are shovel ready or near shovel ready will 4168 05:55:56,920 --> 05:56:00,000 be scored higher on our evaluation matrix. To ensure we 4169 05:56:00,000 --> 05:56:06,413 can unlock units quicker. Next slide, please. Now, once funding 4170 05:56:06,413 --> 05:56:10,093 agreements are in place, council would direct staff to enter 4171 05:56:10,093 --> 05:56:15,830 into municipal housing project agreements. Which include the following items. 4172 05:56:15,830 --> 05:56:18,070 So the number of housing units to be provided, the 4173 05:56:18,070 --> 05:56:22,350 level of affordability the term of the agreement household eligibility 4174 05:56:22,350 --> 05:56:25,950 for the units, financial assistance being provided by the town 4175 05:56:25,950 --> 05:56:29,270 to the provider, conditions for any future sale of the 4176 05:56:29,270 --> 05:56:33,750 property, annual reporting requirements, consequences, and enforcement. If the agreement. 4177 05:56:34,247 --> 05:56:36,087 Is breached. And then, of course, the agreement would be 4178 05:56:36,087 --> 05:56:41,357 registered on title. Next slide, please. The pilot program is 4179 05:56:41,357 --> 05:56:45,437 proposed to be administered through an annual call for applications 4180 05:56:45,437 --> 05:56:49,957 with an opportunity to extend that window or create additional 4181 05:56:49,957 --> 05:56:54,517 intake windows. Depending on program uptake, applications will be reviewed 4182 05:56:54,517 --> 05:57:00,817 against an evaluation matrix by a predetermined evaluation committee. Once 4183 05:57:00,817 --> 05:57:04,057 applications are recommended for funding, a staff report would go 4184 05:57:04,057 --> 05:57:08,177 to council with that recommendation and council will ultimately decide 4185 05:57:08,177 --> 05:57:12,568 on the funding and then. If the funding is approved, 4186 05:57:12,568 --> 05:57:15,728 they would enact a site specific bylaw for that project 4187 05:57:15,728 --> 05:57:18,888 and direct staff to enter into a municipal housing project 4188 05:57:18,888 --> 05:57:23,311 facility. Agreement with the applicant. Agreements would include all the 4189 05:57:23,311 --> 05:57:26,271 terms and conditions tied to the funding, several of which 4190 05:57:26,271 --> 05:57:28,951 I've already mentioned, and then the agreement would be registered 4191 05:57:28,951 --> 05:57:32,712 on title. Next slide, please. So that should give you 4192 05:57:32,712 --> 05:57:35,857 an overview of the program. We've designed and that we're 4193 05:57:35,857 --> 05:57:38,457 proposing today. But we did want to acknowledge some of 4194 05:57:38,457 --> 05:57:43,360 the limitations we are up against. The average per unit 4195 05:57:43,360 --> 05:57:47,160 incentive amount in most programs across the province is about 4196 05:57:47,160 --> 05:57:52,630 $200,000. Per unit. With a reserve fund of $1.5 million. 4197 05:57:52,630 --> 05:57:57,950 Using the $200,000 average we're looking at maybe seven units. 4198 05:57:57,950 --> 05:58:01,830 However, we do have that additional ARU stream, which will 4199 05:58:01,830 --> 05:58:05,868 incent more units at a lower incentive amount. So you 4200 05:58:05,868 --> 05:58:10,117 could see more through that program as well. The program 4201 05:58:10,117 --> 05:58:13,477 has also been designed to only use a maximum of 4202 05:58:13,477 --> 05:58:17,037 90% of the reserve fund. So that's about 1.3 million 4203 05:58:17,037 --> 05:58:21,445 for 2026 as. To not deplete the reserve fund in 4204 05:58:21,445 --> 05:58:26,034 its entirety. Now, once that maximum is reached, and without 4205 05:58:26,034 --> 05:58:29,154 funding from other orders of government, the town would effectively 4206 05:58:29,154 --> 05:58:32,674 be starting from scratch after year one of the pilot 4207 05:58:32,674 --> 05:58:36,914 program. So in terms of long term consistency, and sustainability 4208 05:58:36,914 --> 05:58:41,146 of the program. That's something to consider. Next slide, please. 4209 05:58:42,304 --> 05:58:47,224 Now following council direction from December 8 at the municipal 4210 05:58:47,224 --> 05:58:50,144 capital facility, by law has been revised to include the 4211 05:58:50,144 --> 05:58:54,504 potential for the sale or lease of municipality owned lands 4212 05:58:54,504 --> 05:58:59,536 prior to launching the incentive program. Staff would report back 4213 05:58:59,536 --> 05:59:03,216 to council on expanding that pilot program to include the 4214 05:59:03,216 --> 05:59:06,776 sale or lease of municipal lands. Specifically the lands at 4215 05:59:06,776 --> 05:59:09,096 the corner of high and Poplar. And this would be? 4216 05:59:11,455 --> 05:59:15,546 An additional incentive stream available through that program. And the 4217 05:59:15,546 --> 05:59:19,346 parameters for the disposition of these lands would align with 4218 05:59:19,346 --> 05:59:23,306 the existing criteria developed under the framework with minor adjustments 4219 05:59:23,306 --> 05:59:27,644 as appropriate, and through further discussion this evening. Next slide, 4220 05:59:27,644 --> 05:59:33,175 please. Given the limitations I've outlined, staff have prepared a 4221 05:59:33,175 --> 05:59:37,535 few options to counsel. The first is the recommended option, 4222 05:59:37,535 --> 05:59:41,975 which is to approve the MCFB and incentive pilot program 4223 05:59:41,975 --> 05:59:45,775 and direct staff to launch the pilot program in 2026 4224 05:59:45,775 --> 05:59:49,705 but also report back on the town. Land divestment options. 4225 05:59:51,695 --> 05:59:54,935 The second option is to approve the MCFB and incentive 4226 05:59:54,935 --> 05:59:58,095 pilot program in principal, but direct staff to hold on 4227 05:59:58,095 --> 06:00:02,036 launching the program until more funds are available. And the 4228 06:00:02,036 --> 06:00:05,596 third is to direct staff to explore alternative uses for 4229 06:00:05,596 --> 06:00:09,276 the reserve fund, including investigating opportunities with the county of 4230 06:00:09,276 --> 06:00:14,196 Simcoe. These options are aimed at balancing the recommendations from 4231 06:00:14,196 --> 06:00:17,116 the master plan. And the overall intent of the reserve 4232 06:00:17,116 --> 06:00:21,792 fund, which is to incent the creation of units. But 4233 06:00:21,792 --> 06:00:24,832 also with the current realities of the level of funding 4234 06:00:24,832 --> 06:00:29,752 and the required funding to achieve affordability next slide, please. 4235 06:00:29,752 --> 06:00:33,832 So, pending council directions, staff would begin action on any 4236 06:00:33,832 --> 06:00:38,731 of the recommendations selected. And should council proceed with option 4237 06:00:38,731 --> 06:00:42,778 one? We would look into developing a program for education 4238 06:00:42,778 --> 06:00:48,194 and promotion, which may include. Public information sessions, press releases, 4239 06:00:48,194 --> 06:00:52,714 social media posts, targeted engagement with the development community to 4240 06:00:52,714 --> 06:00:55,034 ensure we're seeing the level of uptake in our program 4241 06:00:55,034 --> 06:01:01,114 that we're hoping for. So that concludes my presentation. And 4242 06:01:01,114 --> 06:01:05,033 I'd be happy to take any questions. Thank you, coordinator 4243 06:01:05,033 --> 06:01:10,488 D. Souza. I'll look to the gallery. Nobody there. Nobody 4244 06:01:10,488 --> 06:01:17,242 online. Okay. All right. I will read in the recommendation. 4245 06:01:17,242 --> 06:01:20,566 Just bear with me here. It's kind of long. That 4246 06:01:20,566 --> 06:01:26,860 staff report, p. 2025. 30 municipal capital. Facility bylaw and 4247 06:01:26,860 --> 06:01:32,620 affordable housing incentive pilot program dated December 15, 2025, be 4248 06:01:32,620 --> 06:01:38,420 received and that council approve and enact the municipal capital 4249 06:01:38,420 --> 06:01:43,724 facility bylaw. In accordance with section one 10 of the 4250 06:01:43,724 --> 06:01:50,279 Municipal Act. 2001, as amended, and that council approved Collingwood 4251 06:01:50,279 --> 06:01:55,079 Housing Incentive pilot program policy and direct staff to work 4252 06:01:55,079 --> 06:01:59,033 toward launching the pilot program. As soon as practical, including 4253 06:01:59,033 --> 06:02:04,356 preparation of any remaining supporting materials as required. And that 4254 06:02:04,356 --> 06:02:07,716 prior to launching the pilot program, staff be directed to 4255 06:02:07,716 --> 06:02:11,516 report back to council on options. And parameters for the 4256 06:02:11,516 --> 06:02:16,716 sale or lease of town owned lands through the MCFB 4257 06:02:16,716 --> 06:02:22,436 incentive framework and provide recommendations on policy amendments necessary to 4258 06:02:22,436 --> 06:02:26,017 expand the pilot program to. Consider the disposition of the 4259 06:02:26,017 --> 06:02:28,977 municipal lands at the corner of Poplar side Road and 4260 06:02:28,977 --> 06:02:34,963 High Street. For affordable, affordable housing. And that council authorizes 4261 06:02:34,963 --> 06:02:38,643 the director of growth in development and or the treasurer 4262 06:02:38,643 --> 06:02:42,683 to approve and execute funding agreements along with such further 4263 06:02:42,683 --> 06:02:47,963 ancillary documents necessary to implement the pilot program on financial 4264 06:02:47,963 --> 06:02:52,505 terms satisfactory to the town treasure. Treasurer and on legal 4265 06:02:52,505 --> 06:02:55,985 terms satisfactory to the town solicitor. Can I have a 4266 06:02:55,985 --> 06:03:03,232 mover? Councilor Dougherty, seconded by deputy mayor Friar, and I'll 4267 06:03:03,232 --> 06:03:08,202 put it on the floor for questions or comments. I'll 4268 06:03:08,202 --> 06:03:14,398 get you. Vice chair, bains thank you. No, I was 4269 06:03:14,398 --> 06:03:17,118 just thinking that would have been great if it doesn't 4270 06:03:17,118 --> 06:03:24,512 matter. I know. Anyway. If I may, through you two, 4271 06:03:24,512 --> 06:03:29,266 coordinator de Sousa. Absolutely. I'm assuming from all this that 4272 06:03:29,266 --> 06:03:32,666 we take it as a given that before the feds 4273 06:03:32,666 --> 06:03:35,466 or the province would gift us with half a million 4274 06:03:35,466 --> 06:03:37,626 bucks or a million bucks or something. Like that, we 4275 06:03:37,626 --> 06:03:42,506 would need either a CIP or an MCFB in place. 4276 06:03:42,506 --> 06:03:48,441 Certainly the. Mfcb. Before the money could come. Is that 4277 06:03:48,441 --> 06:03:55,243 correct? Through the chair. Yeah. I guess you don't need 4278 06:03:55,243 --> 06:03:59,123 an MCFB in place to get federal funding for housing. 4279 06:03:59,123 --> 06:04:04,409 Necessarily. I think it helps. So I think the way 4280 06:04:04,409 --> 06:04:09,449 that, for example, the Housing Accelerator fund program was designed 4281 06:04:09,449 --> 06:04:13,371 was based on. Your action plan for achieving affordable units. 4282 06:04:13,371 --> 06:04:16,171 And part of our action plan was this, to show 4283 06:04:16,171 --> 06:04:21,246 that we are ready to provide that financial support. To 4284 06:04:21,246 --> 06:04:23,366 applicants. And, hey, it would be great if we had 4285 06:04:23,366 --> 06:04:25,486 some funds to help us do that. So it certainly 4286 06:04:25,486 --> 06:04:29,886 helps, but it wasn't necessarily necessary for those applications. Great. 4287 06:04:29,886 --> 06:04:33,460 Thank you. And a follow up, if I may. Does 4288 06:04:33,460 --> 06:04:42,578 either a ch I p p. Or. I suppose a 4289 06:04:42,578 --> 06:04:46,382 cip. Require either its own board of directors or staff 4290 06:04:46,382 --> 06:04:50,422 going forward. Will we need that, particularly if we receive 4291 06:04:50,422 --> 06:04:53,862 a million bucks or so in gutter dispensers. Will we 4292 06:04:53,862 --> 06:04:58,940 require that sort? Of support and staff resources. Through the 4293 06:04:58,940 --> 06:05:02,956 chair? Not at this time. Especially the pilot program. It's 4294 06:05:02,956 --> 06:05:09,463 really staff led, so. We'll have an evaluation committee. To 4295 06:05:09,463 --> 06:05:12,623 evaluate the applications. But the program at this stage has 4296 06:05:12,623 --> 06:05:16,783 been designed under the assumption that myself and director Valentine 4297 06:05:16,783 --> 06:05:21,867 are the only staff resources. If we received a bunch 4298 06:05:21,867 --> 06:05:24,507 of money and wanted to expand that pilot program to 4299 06:05:24,507 --> 06:05:27,627 look something differently. I think we'd have to explore that 4300 06:05:27,627 --> 06:05:32,397 at that time. Deputy mayor Friar thank you, chair Perry. 4301 06:05:32,397 --> 06:05:35,077 And I got a comment, and then I do have 4302 06:05:35,077 --> 06:05:38,357 a question. But firstly, I would say I fully agree 4303 06:05:38,357 --> 06:05:43,441 with your coordinator, Desos. Statement that all orders of government 4304 06:05:43,441 --> 06:05:47,115 need to be involved. Regarding the high street property. It 4305 06:05:47,115 --> 06:05:50,035 only makes sense to study the possibilities that can work 4306 06:05:50,035 --> 06:05:55,155 in conjunction. With the MCF bylaw, so supportive of its 4307 06:05:55,155 --> 06:06:00,155 inclusion is outlined. Also fully supportive of an affordable housing 4308 06:06:00,155 --> 06:06:05,246 incentive pilot program because. We have had generous support put 4309 06:06:05,246 --> 06:06:12,528 forward by the Welton family. The sunvale homes. The Cuthbert 4310 06:06:12,528 --> 06:06:15,808 State and the Johnson family and those have been monetary 4311 06:06:15,808 --> 06:06:20,373 basis. And staff's proposing to utilize the funds through the 4312 06:06:20,373 --> 06:06:24,137 incentive pilot. The outcome of that pilot will provide council 4313 06:06:24,137 --> 06:06:26,977 and staff with a strong indication of how to move. 4314 06:06:26,977 --> 06:06:32,844 Forward on a more permanent basis. Regarding the $400,000 annual 4315 06:06:32,844 --> 06:06:35,924 tax levy, most of which moves into the reserve, I 4316 06:06:35,924 --> 06:06:38,844 would submit that this is how council is chosen to 4317 06:06:38,844 --> 06:06:42,244 show that our local work is a partnership with the 4318 06:06:42,244 --> 06:06:46,644 contributors, both the monetary ones that we mentioned and those 4319 06:06:46,644 --> 06:06:49,364 developers that choose to do something like roughed in accessory 4320 06:06:49,364 --> 06:06:55,203 uni. Units or apportioning some of their development. Towards affordable 4321 06:06:55,203 --> 06:06:59,847 units. In the scheme of things. Although our affordable housing 4322 06:06:59,847 --> 06:07:05,400 successes may appear to be minimal, To some. They aren't 4323 06:07:05,400 --> 06:07:08,915 to the families that are going to be housed. And 4324 06:07:08,915 --> 06:07:11,155 in the more favorable situation than they would have been 4325 06:07:11,155 --> 06:07:14,801 if we weren't putting these things forward. And perhaps it 4326 06:07:14,801 --> 06:07:18,334 wouldn't have any housing at all. So the question I 4327 06:07:18,334 --> 06:07:21,494 did have, because the high street property is being discussed 4328 06:07:21,494 --> 06:07:26,430 in other ways today. I think it's important that. We 4329 06:07:26,430 --> 06:07:29,150 note, nothing can happen with that property until the road 4330 06:07:29,150 --> 06:07:33,936 is completed in the development beside it. We don't have 4331 06:07:33,936 --> 06:07:36,896 a crystal ball, but we know it'll take some time 4332 06:07:36,896 --> 06:07:44,039 before. That can happen. But you have the opportunity to 4333 06:07:44,039 --> 06:07:47,199 explore the options with what you're putting forward with the 4334 06:07:47,199 --> 06:07:53,758 MCF. I just wanted to clarify. That. If I could, 4335 06:07:53,758 --> 06:07:57,718 through you just explain about the fact that it's going 4336 06:07:57,718 --> 06:08:03,000 to take accessibility. Before that property can be developed. Through 4337 06:08:03,000 --> 06:08:07,130 the chair to the deputy mayor. You're exactly right. The 4338 06:08:07,130 --> 06:08:12,094 property. Is hopefully going to be more development ready soon 4339 06:08:12,094 --> 06:08:17,134 with the adjacent summit view phase three subdivision receiving approvals 4340 06:08:17,134 --> 06:08:22,421 in July. Which gets it one step closer. To construction 4341 06:08:22,421 --> 06:08:26,166 eventually. We don't know when that will be, given current 4342 06:08:26,166 --> 06:08:32,354 market conditions. So as the lands are right now. They're 4343 06:08:32,354 --> 06:08:36,353 not necessarily ready to be built out yet. But the 4344 06:08:36,353 --> 06:08:39,593 idea is that through the municipal capital facility, by law, 4345 06:08:39,593 --> 06:08:45,359 we could add an incentive stream. To dispose of those 4346 06:08:45,359 --> 06:08:49,559 lands, to set an organization up for the future development 4347 06:08:49,559 --> 06:08:53,039 of that site, but. We would acknowledge that that site 4348 06:08:53,039 --> 06:08:56,937 isn't shovel ready. Who knows how long I don't have 4349 06:08:56,937 --> 06:09:03,773 a crystal ball. Councilor Jeffrey thank you very much, Mr. 4350 06:09:03,773 --> 06:09:07,413 Chair. Soldier to coordinator to Susa. I think the stars 4351 06:09:07,413 --> 06:09:09,733 have aligned for us in affordable housing. I think we 4352 06:09:09,733 --> 06:09:12,613 have the right staff, the right council. The right affordable 4353 06:09:12,613 --> 06:09:16,533 housing committee, and we're really doing some outstanding things here. 4354 06:09:16,533 --> 06:09:22,954 So I really. love this report My only question is 4355 06:09:22,954 --> 06:09:26,474 it always comes up with these incentivized programs with limited 4356 06:09:26,474 --> 06:09:29,937 years. If, say, in the case of the region of 4357 06:09:29,937 --> 06:09:32,617 Peel, we did 172 units and they all come. Up. 4358 06:09:34,008 --> 06:09:37,177 Into fair market. At the end of 25 years, what 4359 06:09:37,177 --> 06:09:41,257 is the strategy? Or is there one through this that 4360 06:09:41,257 --> 06:09:45,294 helps? US bridge so that we don't have that. Drop 4361 06:09:45,294 --> 06:09:49,019 in units. Yeah, through the chair to Councilor Jeffrey. That's 4362 06:09:49,019 --> 06:09:52,673 a really good question. And. I don't think I know 4363 06:09:52,673 --> 06:09:58,100 what the strategy is, but. It is something. I've, through 4364 06:09:58,100 --> 06:10:01,780 my research, have seen is that almost every incentive program. 4365 06:10:03,363 --> 06:10:07,323 Has that 25 year term. CMHC also has that same 4366 06:10:07,323 --> 06:10:10,763 25 year term, so it's a really interesting conundrum because. 4367 06:10:12,149 --> 06:10:18,188 Incentivizing units. We've done a lot on a federal level 4368 06:10:18,188 --> 06:10:21,508 across the last few years. So those 25 year terms 4369 06:10:21,508 --> 06:10:26,405 could all be coming up around the same time. And 4370 06:10:26,405 --> 06:10:30,285 then municipalities and other orders of government are faced with 4371 06:10:30,285 --> 06:10:32,885 what happens after that. So I'm not sure if Director 4372 06:10:32,885 --> 06:10:37,950 Valentine has any other thoughts. But yeah. Dr. Valentine, thank 4373 06:10:37,950 --> 06:10:42,590 you, chair, and fully agree with coordinator Jacob's comments. And 4374 06:10:42,590 --> 06:10:44,990 if we had tens of millions of dollars to play 4375 06:10:44,990 --> 06:10:48,190 with. We would continue this program year after year. And 4376 06:10:48,190 --> 06:10:54,030 then, therefore, would stagger those 25 year renewals. I think 4377 06:10:54,030 --> 06:10:59,849 part of. The important consideration is that nonprofits tend to 4378 06:10:59,849 --> 06:11:02,809 be the most likely type of organization that would go 4379 06:11:02,809 --> 06:11:06,769 beyond those 25 years, or potentially even in perpetuity. And 4380 06:11:06,769 --> 06:11:10,569 as coordinator D'Souza mentioned, it would be our recommendation that. 4381 06:11:12,213 --> 06:11:15,653 In the evaluation matrix for this funding, that nonprofits would 4382 06:11:15,653 --> 06:11:18,533 score higher than for profit. So we're doing the best 4383 06:11:18,533 --> 06:11:21,373 with the tools we have to try to maximize or 4384 06:11:21,373 --> 06:11:25,489 partner. With developers that may be looking to longer term 4385 06:11:25,489 --> 06:11:28,529 affordability, and we can always keep our fingers and toes 4386 06:11:28,529 --> 06:11:31,329 crossed. That will come up positive with the feds or 4387 06:11:31,329 --> 06:11:33,489 the province at some point. In the near future and 4388 06:11:33,489 --> 06:11:37,982 be able to offer this program for multiple years. No, 4389 06:11:37,982 --> 06:11:40,222 just thank you very much for that. I think the 4390 06:11:40,222 --> 06:11:42,622 work is great, and I just hope we always have 4391 06:11:42,622 --> 06:11:45,102 our thinking caps on in terms of maybe spreading out 4392 06:11:45,102 --> 06:11:49,022 our investments in ways that maybe they don't all come 4393 06:11:49,022 --> 06:11:56,200 up at once. Thank you. Any other bear, Hamlin. Yeah, 4394 06:11:56,200 --> 06:12:00,394 I'll just also add my thanks. What a bleer. Wonderfully 4395 06:12:00,394 --> 06:12:04,274 delivered program with lots of thought gone into it. So, 4396 06:12:04,274 --> 06:12:06,714 really, thank you to everybody who's been involved in this. 4397 06:12:06,714 --> 06:12:10,751 It's good work. And really, the only thing I wanted 4398 06:12:10,751 --> 06:12:15,035 to add was. Hopefully we're going to have so many 4399 06:12:15,035 --> 06:12:21,164 applicants. And. It would be helpful to have the whole 4400 06:12:21,164 --> 06:12:25,489 list that you think are worthwhile. Available, even though you're 4401 06:12:25,489 --> 06:12:29,394 going to pick a few. Because with that list, it's 4402 06:12:29,394 --> 06:12:32,074 such a good piece of paper, if I can call 4403 06:12:32,074 --> 06:12:35,234 it. That to go to where we think funding could 4404 06:12:35,234 --> 06:12:40,749 be available. And I'm happy to help. But say, look, 4405 06:12:40,749 --> 06:12:43,589 we could be building another 100 units if we had. 4406 06:12:45,295 --> 06:12:47,175 Right, so I think that's really good. I was a 4407 06:12:47,175 --> 06:12:49,895 bit worried we'd be. Oversubscribed when you were talking about 4408 06:12:49,895 --> 06:12:53,064 this, and I thought, no, that's a. Good thing. Very 4409 06:12:53,064 --> 06:12:58,057 good thing. Okay. So anyway, thank you. Councilor Dougherty. Thank 4410 06:12:58,057 --> 06:13:05,579 you. And terrific report. I'm so excited about this initiative, 4411 06:13:05,579 --> 06:13:10,139 and in the scheme of things, we've brought this forward 4412 06:13:10,139 --> 06:13:15,913 pretty quickly. Since our affordable housing task force was created. 4413 06:13:15,913 --> 06:13:18,953 So what was that, three years ago, four years ago? 4414 06:13:18,953 --> 06:13:25,444 So not bad. I did have a couple of questions, 4415 06:13:25,444 --> 06:13:31,349 and one of them is. So if we establish. What 4416 06:13:31,349 --> 06:13:36,127 the affordable rate is. In order to qualify for the 4417 06:13:36,127 --> 06:13:41,760 incentive. Do we put stipulations in place as to the 4418 06:13:41,760 --> 06:13:48,446 annual? The maximum annual. Rent increase. Through the chair to 4419 06:13:48,446 --> 06:13:54,180 Councilor Dougherty. Great question, and yes. So we can. Include 4420 06:13:54,180 --> 06:14:00,149 stipulations around rent increases. In the agreements. I don't think 4421 06:14:00,149 --> 06:14:04,275 we would expect. Housing providers to freeze the rents for 4422 06:14:04,275 --> 06:14:10,769 25 years. So. We would base. The sort of incremental 4423 06:14:10,769 --> 06:14:15,449 rent increase year over year. With whatever the provinces are 4424 06:14:15,449 --> 06:14:19,969 at for I think buildings constructed pre 2018. I think 4425 06:14:19,969 --> 06:14:24,886 that has been a recent change, but yes. We could 4426 06:14:24,886 --> 06:14:28,286 include those stipulations in the agreement to ensure that those 4427 06:14:28,286 --> 06:14:33,679 rents can go up, at least nominally. Follow. Just two 4428 06:14:33,679 --> 06:14:40,712 more questions. The second one. Is. Can we or could 4429 06:14:40,712 --> 06:14:49,606 we? Accept. Private contributions to the fund. And issue tax 4430 06:14:49,606 --> 06:14:57,438 receipts. Because of the nature of. Our bylaw. That might 4431 06:14:57,438 --> 06:15:04,172 be a question for Treasurer Parker. Graham. Sorry. I did 4432 06:15:04,172 --> 06:15:08,460 it again. So many Jennifers. There's a lot of us. 4433 06:15:08,460 --> 06:15:11,720 That's quite okay. Thank you. Thank you. Chair through you 4434 06:15:11,720 --> 06:15:15,520 to canceller Doherty. Yes, we can issue charitable tax receipts 4435 06:15:15,520 --> 06:15:18,400 for funds. Used for that purpose that we received. Thank 4436 06:15:18,400 --> 06:15:23,802 you. That's huge. If we can do that. And then 4437 06:15:23,802 --> 06:15:29,206 my final question is. Because I know that this was 4438 06:15:29,206 --> 06:15:32,326 a situation that was a real conundrum in the city. 4439 06:15:32,326 --> 06:15:37,944 Of Berry. But. What control do we have in place? 4440 06:15:37,944 --> 06:15:42,424 So if we say you must have household income, maximum 4441 06:15:42,424 --> 06:15:48,535 of $80,000 per year. But suddenly, all of a sudden. 4442 06:15:50,496 --> 06:15:53,696 Not all of a sudden, but in some time shortly 4443 06:15:53,696 --> 06:15:58,263 thereafter. That same tenant gets a big pay increase or 4444 06:15:58,263 --> 06:16:01,343 changes jobs, and all of a sudden they're. Making $100,000 4445 06:16:01,343 --> 06:16:06,678 a year. What do we do then? Through the chair. 4446 06:16:06,678 --> 06:16:11,338 Another great question. And. The way the wording is in 4447 06:16:11,338 --> 06:16:17,001 the bylaw right now is that. Housing providers must verify 4448 06:16:17,001 --> 06:16:21,161 tenant income at initial occupancy and then anytime the unit 4449 06:16:21,161 --> 06:16:25,804 is turned over, so anytime. A new tenant has access 4450 06:16:25,804 --> 06:16:30,967 to unit, but also in the annual reporting requirements. Housing 4451 06:16:30,967 --> 06:16:35,488 provider is reporting that. Their units are still meeting all 4452 06:16:35,488 --> 06:16:39,088 of the terms and conditions of the agreement, which includes 4453 06:16:39,088 --> 06:16:44,461 household. Income levels, so. We're not necessarily. I don't think 4454 06:16:44,461 --> 06:16:48,821 we necessarily are allowed to request that tenant. Income is 4455 06:16:48,821 --> 06:16:53,955 verified every single year. But. We certainly are requesting it 4456 06:16:53,955 --> 06:16:58,435 at unit turnover and at initial occupancy, and then through 4457 06:16:58,435 --> 06:17:01,955 annual reporting, the applicant or housing provider is agreeing that 4458 06:17:01,955 --> 06:17:06,150 they are meeting the terms of the agreement. Still. Great. 4459 06:17:06,150 --> 06:17:10,516 Okay. Thank you. Good work. Premier Halen. Yeah, I'll just 4460 06:17:10,516 --> 06:17:12,836 weigh in to say I don't think that. Would be 4461 06:17:12,836 --> 06:17:15,956 grounds for terminating a tenancy that the tenant is earning 4462 06:17:15,956 --> 06:17:19,287 too much. But I just want to throw that in 4463 06:17:19,287 --> 06:17:22,567 there. But also, I think at the county we've. Had 4464 06:17:22,567 --> 06:17:26,087 this discussion, and I think the head of the county's 4465 06:17:26,087 --> 06:17:30,887 housing authority says that once people are earning more income 4466 06:17:30,887 --> 06:17:33,167 than what would be the reason they got in the 4467 06:17:33,167 --> 06:17:36,607 housing they usually like to upgrade their housing, so they 4468 06:17:36,607 --> 06:17:39,335 haven't found that to be a problem. Over time if 4469 06:17:39,335 --> 06:17:47,045 people's income go up. Any other questions? Comments? I'd like 4470 06:17:47,045 --> 06:17:50,784 to echo everybody. This fantastic report. Thank you very much. 4471 06:17:52,122 --> 06:17:55,082 I'd venture to say you're probably going to be an 4472 06:17:55,082 --> 06:17:58,202 envy of a lot. Of municipalities, so be prepared to 4473 06:17:58,202 --> 06:18:03,336 be emailed and your brains picked. Anyhow. I will put 4474 06:18:03,336 --> 06:18:06,713 the recommendation on the floor. For a vote. All those 4475 06:18:06,713 --> 06:18:12,342 in favor? And that's unanimous. Thank you, coordinator to Susan. 4476 06:18:14,349 --> 06:18:23,250 Director Valentine. Okay. On to item 15.2.2. T 2025 21 4477 06:18:23,250 --> 06:18:30,396 development charges bylaw amendment for seasonal structures Treasurer Graham. Thank 4478 06:18:30,396 --> 06:18:34,196 you, Chair Perry. You're welcome. This report responds to direction 4479 06:18:34,196 --> 06:18:38,076 staff received from council at the November 17 meeting, where 4480 06:18:38,076 --> 06:18:41,036 staff were asked to review the financial, legal and policy 4481 06:18:41,036 --> 06:18:46,356 implications of amending the TAN's development charges bylaw to establish 4482 06:18:46,356 --> 06:18:51,188 an exemption for qualifying, temporary or seasonal structures. This request 4483 06:18:51,188 --> 06:18:53,988 was brought forward in response to the Georgian Bay Rackets 4484 06:18:53,988 --> 06:18:57,908 Initiative, a volunteer based group proposing a seasonal, air supported 4485 06:18:57,908 --> 06:19:03,548 dome over existing permitted outdoor tennis courts under the Tan's 4486 06:19:03,548 --> 06:19:07,028 current development charges bylaw. There is no exemption for temporary 4487 06:19:07,028 --> 06:19:11,239 or seasonal structures. Any structure that requires a. Building permit, 4488 06:19:11,239 --> 06:19:14,599 including temporary structures, is subject to development charges based on 4489 06:19:14,599 --> 06:19:19,519 type, use and gross floor area. For nonresidential development such 4490 06:19:19,519 --> 06:19:24,039 as this. The current rate is $326.17 per square meter. 4491 06:19:25,765 --> 06:19:28,765 From a land use and servicing perspective, the site in 4492 06:19:28,765 --> 06:19:32,885 question is already permitted and historically used for outdoor tennis. 4493 06:19:32,885 --> 06:19:36,844 The dome would be erected over existing courts. No new 4494 06:19:36,844 --> 06:19:40,364 municipal water wastewater connections are proposed and washroom needs would 4495 06:19:40,364 --> 06:19:45,324 be met through portable facilities. Functionally, this proposal enables yearand 4496 06:19:45,324 --> 06:19:49,844 use of an existing recreational facility rather than creating a 4497 06:19:49,844 --> 06:19:55,324 more intensive or permanently service use. Staff reviewed development charges 4498 06:19:55,324 --> 06:19:57,836 bylaws across Simpco. County and include at the town of 4499 06:19:57,836 --> 06:20:01,556 Blue Mountains as they are direct neighbor and other municipalities. 4500 06:20:03,164 --> 06:20:06,524 And his findings are detailed in the appendix. While several 4501 06:20:06,524 --> 06:20:12,612 municipalities provide exemptions for temporary structures. They are generally based 4502 06:20:12,612 --> 06:20:15,412 on a continuous duration, such as structures remaining in place 4503 06:20:15,412 --> 06:20:18,212 no longer than six to twelve months. None of the 4504 06:20:18,212 --> 06:20:23,172 comparator bylaws explicitly addressed recurring seasonal air supported domes that 4505 06:20:23,172 --> 06:20:27,706 are erected. And removed annually and put back the following 4506 06:20:27,706 --> 06:20:33,097 year. This creates a degree of amphuite and without clear 4507 06:20:33,097 --> 06:20:37,417 wording, interpretation could ultimately be determined. By the Ontario Land 4508 06:20:37,417 --> 06:20:41,577 Tribunal staff have us legal cancel to review OLt hearings 4509 06:20:41,577 --> 06:20:45,176 for similar cases. And are waiting to hear back. One 4510 06:20:45,176 --> 06:20:50,016 notable exception is the city of Burlington, which explicitly defines 4511 06:20:50,016 --> 06:20:54,096 an exempt seasonal ar supported structures in its DC bylaw. 4512 06:20:54,096 --> 06:20:57,296 This provides a clear and defensible model. Shall cancel. Wish 4513 06:20:57,296 --> 06:21:01,416 to proceed. From a financial perspective, exempting a seasonal dome 4514 06:21:01,416 --> 06:21:04,416 would result in foregone DC revenue that otherwise would have 4515 06:21:04,416 --> 06:21:09,436 been collect. Collected. Out. Permit issuance. However, as mentioned, the 4516 06:21:09,436 --> 06:21:12,436 dome does not create new servicing capacity demands. It covers 4517 06:21:12,436 --> 06:21:16,276 an existing permitted recreational use and in aligns with the 4518 06:21:16,276 --> 06:21:19,596 Tan's community based strategic plan objective to promote healthy and 4519 06:21:19,596 --> 06:21:25,241 active living. Should council direct staff to proceed? The legislative 4520 06:21:25,241 --> 06:21:28,081 steps to amend the DC bylaw would include preparing a 4521 06:21:28,081 --> 06:21:32,441 draft amended bylaw limited to adding a new discretionary exemption. 4522 06:21:33,846 --> 06:21:36,726 Completing the legal review mentioned before for clarity and compliance. 4523 06:21:37,687 --> 06:21:40,927 Confirming whether a public meeting is required and is anticipated 4524 06:21:40,927 --> 06:21:42,687 that it would not be with the changes that have 4525 06:21:42,687 --> 06:21:46,367 been made to the DC act, bringing the bylaw to 4526 06:21:46,367 --> 06:21:50,447 council for passage and approval. Providing notice of passage and 4527 06:21:50,447 --> 06:21:55,258 completing the legislative appeal period. As the impact of the 4528 06:21:55,258 --> 06:22:00,298 change to the bylaw is actually, in essence, reducing dcs 4529 06:22:00,298 --> 06:22:05,299 a full background study is not required through legislation. Staff 4530 06:22:05,299 --> 06:22:08,339 would propose to retain Hempson Consulting, who prepared the current 4531 06:22:08,339 --> 06:22:11,179 bylaw and background study. To assist with drafting the amendment 4532 06:22:11,179 --> 06:22:15,059 and supporting analysis. The estimated cost is a ceiling of 4533 06:22:15,059 --> 06:22:18,699 $5,000 which would be fully funded from the development charge 4534 06:22:18,699 --> 06:22:24,539 administration category with no impact on the tax levy council 4535 06:22:24,539 --> 06:22:27,893 has. Two options. The first is to direct staff to 4536 06:22:27,893 --> 06:22:31,253 proceed with a narrowly scoped DC bylaw. Amendment to exempt 4537 06:22:31,253 --> 06:22:36,584 qualifying temporary or seasonal structures, including. Air supported Dome or 4538 06:22:36,584 --> 06:22:40,965 to maintain the current DC bylaw with no exemption. Staff 4539 06:22:40,965 --> 06:22:44,445 are in the staff report are recommending option one. If 4540 06:22:44,445 --> 06:22:47,765 council supports this direction, staff will return with the draft 4541 06:22:47,765 --> 06:22:51,205 bylaw in January and supporting materials in accordance with legislative 4542 06:22:51,205 --> 06:22:55,071 timelines. Thank you. Thanks, Treasurer Graham. So I'll look to 4543 06:22:55,071 --> 06:23:01,303 the gallery. No. Online clerk no. Okay. I will read 4544 06:23:01,303 --> 06:23:06,943 in the recommendation that staff report t 2025 21 development 4545 06:23:06,943 --> 06:23:11,583 charges bylaw amendment for seasonal structures be received and that 4546 06:23:11,583 --> 06:23:15,743 council directs staff to proceed with preparing an amending bylaw 4547 06:23:15,743 --> 06:23:20,383 to establish a DC exemption for qualifying temporary or seasonal 4548 06:23:20,383 --> 06:23:24,596 structures. Including seasonal air supported domes. Can I have a 4549 06:23:24,596 --> 06:23:31,652 mover? Councilor McCulloch seconded. Mayor hamlin. And any questions or 4550 06:23:31,652 --> 06:23:39,956 comments. Vice chair, Baines. Thank you. Chair through you to 4551 06:23:39,956 --> 06:23:43,701 the treasure. This is not to say that anybody coming 4552 06:23:43,701 --> 06:23:46,541 forward with an application like this in the future, they 4553 06:23:46,541 --> 06:23:51,098 would still pay development charges. On essentially the cement pad 4554 06:23:51,098 --> 06:23:54,962 for the tennis courts themselves. What they wouldn't pay is 4555 06:23:54,962 --> 06:23:58,442 going forward a development charge on the temporary structure of 4556 06:23:58,442 --> 06:24:06,304 the bubble, correct? I should ask Director Valentine. Director Valentine. 4557 06:24:06,304 --> 06:24:09,932 Apologies. Chair, could you please repeat the question? An applicant 4558 06:24:09,932 --> 06:24:13,284 coming forward in the future to build one. Would not 4559 06:24:13,284 --> 06:24:16,284 pay a development chart or would pay a development charge 4560 06:24:16,284 --> 06:24:19,484 on the cement pad upon which the bubble would sit, 4561 06:24:19,484 --> 06:24:21,724 but they would not pay a development charge on the 4562 06:24:21,724 --> 06:24:27,875 bubble itself. That's a trick question. No, it's not. They 4563 06:24:27,875 --> 06:24:30,635 have to pay something for the development of the property 4564 06:24:30,635 --> 06:24:33,995 to put the tennis court or whatever. It is in 4565 06:24:33,995 --> 06:24:39,403 cement. Treasure. Graham. I'd like to return with my answer 4566 06:24:39,403 --> 06:24:46,732 to that. If that development of the tennis court required 4567 06:24:46,732 --> 06:24:51,212 a billing permit, then absolutely the DCs would be applicable. 4568 06:24:51,212 --> 06:24:53,852 I just would like to confirm with the CBO or 4569 06:24:53,852 --> 06:24:57,452 chief building officer if a billing permit would be issued 4570 06:24:57,452 --> 06:24:59,052 for that. I can't say that I know the answer 4571 06:24:59,052 --> 06:25:02,532 to that. With certainty. Okay. But I would be happy 4572 06:25:02,532 --> 06:25:05,815 to find out for you. Thank you. Trick question? No, 4573 06:25:05,815 --> 06:25:07,855 I just don't know. No, but as soon as you 4574 06:25:07,855 --> 06:25:09,375 asked it, I. Thought. Oh, that's going to be a 4575 06:25:09,375 --> 06:25:11,695 tough one. Well, I will wait to hear the response, 4576 06:25:11,695 --> 06:25:18,208 Councilor ring. Thank you, chair. Through you two to the 4577 06:25:18,208 --> 06:25:23,524 treasurer. And then. You've answered, I guess, for the best 4578 06:25:23,524 --> 06:25:25,764 of your knowledge on that right now, would you? Not 4579 06:25:25,764 --> 06:25:29,844 think that the initial cost, I guess there'd be DC 4580 06:25:29,844 --> 06:25:32,364 charge, but I guess that would only depend on whether 4581 06:25:32,364 --> 06:25:36,804 there was a building permit granted. I'm saying the original 4582 06:25:36,804 --> 06:25:40,284 cost to install it the first time would be a 4583 06:25:40,284 --> 06:25:43,380 DC char. Charge. And what they're looking for is exemption 4584 06:25:43,380 --> 06:25:45,420 from every other year after that, because I think without 4585 06:25:45,420 --> 06:25:50,775 the bylaw amendment. Every time. The way our bylaw reads 4586 06:25:50,775 --> 06:25:52,695 now, every time they want to put that back up. 4587 06:25:52,695 --> 06:25:57,215 They're going to be charged. DC charged treasure Graham. Well, 4588 06:25:57,215 --> 06:25:59,175 I do know the answer to this? Because I did 4589 06:25:59,175 --> 06:26:02,487 speak with the CBO. So the way our bylaw reads 4590 06:26:02,487 --> 06:26:05,247 now is when there's a demolition permit issued on a 4591 06:26:05,247 --> 06:26:09,810 property within five years. The DC is exempt. For no 4592 06:26:09,810 --> 06:26:12,290 more than what the demolition credit would be. Meaning? We 4593 06:26:12,290 --> 06:26:15,810 can't go into credit. And owe developers money. So the 4594 06:26:15,810 --> 06:26:18,450 way this would work, if we were to charge development 4595 06:26:18,450 --> 06:26:21,530 charges, the first time they erected the seasonal dome when 4596 06:26:21,530 --> 06:26:25,236 they took it down. The CBO would issue a demolition 4597 06:26:25,236 --> 06:26:28,528 permit and then. When they were to erect it again 4598 06:26:28,528 --> 06:26:31,608 the following year, the demolition credit that they would have 4599 06:26:31,608 --> 06:26:35,739 received. Would cancel any further DC charges. So in essence, 4600 06:26:35,739 --> 06:26:37,939 they would just be paying the one time at the 4601 06:26:37,939 --> 06:26:42,598 first time the dome was erected. Follow up. Just a 4602 06:26:42,598 --> 06:26:45,438 comment because I thought when the presentation was made to 4603 06:26:45,438 --> 06:26:49,653 us by the original, presenter. That was his beef, was 4604 06:26:49,653 --> 06:26:52,133 that it was going to cost him $250,000 in dcs. 4605 06:26:52,133 --> 06:26:53,613 Because every year he's going to have to pay the 4606 06:26:53,613 --> 06:26:56,613 dcs and that's. What he was getting. I thought that's 4607 06:26:56,613 --> 06:26:59,213 what he was getting the exemption for, but. I could 4608 06:26:59,213 --> 06:27:07,324 have been wrong. Deputy mayor. Megan. Okay, mayor hamlin. 4609 06:27:09,968 --> 06:27:13,445 Yeah, just to clarify. Staff will correct me if I'm 4610 06:27:13,445 --> 06:27:17,372 wrong. I'm sure. But I think. What's? Before us. Is 4611 06:27:17,372 --> 06:27:22,587 an exemption from development charges for one of. These bubbles. 4612 06:27:22,587 --> 06:27:25,987 I'll call them so that the applicant would never pay. 4613 06:27:27,162 --> 06:27:31,486 Development charges. If they were bringing one of these structures 4614 06:27:31,486 --> 06:27:35,352 forward. As it would be defined by bylaw, which I 4615 06:27:35,352 --> 06:27:37,152 take. It's why it's going to cost us some money 4616 06:27:37,152 --> 06:27:40,183 to make sure we get a good definition. So it 4617 06:27:40,183 --> 06:27:45,480 isn't too broadly interpreted. Thank you, deputy mayor. And that's 4618 06:27:45,480 --> 06:27:48,520 what I was recollecting. I thought that that's the way 4619 06:27:48,520 --> 06:27:52,919 it was going to work out. I really appreciate the 4620 06:27:52,919 --> 06:27:59,406 report from Treasure Graham. And I'm supportive of the recommendation. 4621 06:27:59,406 --> 06:28:03,046 I do have guarded concerns. And we have a question. 4622 06:28:03,046 --> 06:28:05,206 You've put forward. This is community, the whole so we 4623 06:28:05,206 --> 06:28:07,566 can get the answer for when we're dealing it with 4624 06:28:07,566 --> 06:28:16,072 it in council. Because I'm concerned about. Untended precedent. But 4625 06:28:16,072 --> 06:28:19,588 the report says. Staff is going to work closely with 4626 06:28:19,588 --> 06:28:22,308 legal to try to put the clear wording in place. 4627 06:28:22,308 --> 06:28:26,720 And I think. That's certainly the basis that I'm putting 4628 06:28:26,720 --> 06:28:29,400 my support forward on. And then when we see things 4629 06:28:29,400 --> 06:28:32,201 come back. We'll be able to discern that a little 4630 06:28:32,201 --> 06:28:37,824 bit better. Right. Thank you, Councilor McCullough. Thank you, chair. 4631 06:28:40,128 --> 06:28:42,928 Yeah. I think it's become clear what it is that's 4632 06:28:42,928 --> 06:28:47,576 being approved. And I think from my perspective, it was 4633 06:28:47,576 --> 06:28:50,496 important to understand that this is not triggering expenses for 4634 06:28:50,496 --> 06:28:55,176 the town. It's using existing services on an existing use 4635 06:28:55,176 --> 06:28:58,176 on a property that's zoned appropriately for this use, and 4636 06:28:58,176 --> 06:29:02,256 it's contributing a community rec facility which effectively takes that 4637 06:29:02,256 --> 06:29:05,908 potential future need off the town's book. Books. There's no 4638 06:29:05,908 --> 06:29:10,228 ongoing costs, and it satisfies a demonstrated need within the 4639 06:29:10,228 --> 06:29:15,559 town. So I think it's a win win. Thank you. 4640 06:29:15,559 --> 06:29:19,642 Any other comments, questions? So I'll put the recommendation to 4641 06:29:19,642 --> 06:29:25,168 the vote. All those in favor? And that's unanimous. Okay, 4642 06:29:25,168 --> 06:29:31,026 onto item 15. Oh, I need a motion to extend 4643 06:29:31,026 --> 06:29:34,426 for another hour. Can I have a mover, councilor? McCullough. 4644 06:29:38,092 --> 06:29:42,158 Seconded. Councilor Dougherty. All those in favor? And that's unanimous. 4645 06:29:43,864 --> 06:29:50,752 Okay, item 15.2.3. T 2025 22 amendment to the council 4646 06:29:50,752 --> 06:29:55,712 Community grant policy and Treasurer Graham, it's yours. Again. Thank 4647 06:29:55,712 --> 06:29:59,992 you, chair Perry. This report brings forward a revised council 4648 06:29:59,992 --> 06:30:04,272 community grant and in kind support. Policy for council's consideration. 4649 06:30:04,272 --> 06:30:06,592 The purpose of the policy is to provide a clear 4650 06:30:06,592 --> 06:30:10,241 and structured. Framework that allows council to consider funding request 4651 06:30:10,241 --> 06:30:14,601 consistently, fairly, and transparently, while continuing to support the many 4652 06:30:14,601 --> 06:30:19,401 community organizations and volunteers who enhance life in colleenwed. The 4653 06:30:19,401 --> 06:30:23,161 town recognizes and greatly values the contributions of volunteers, community 4654 06:30:23,161 --> 06:30:26,601 organizations, and local agencies that deliver programs and services. Benef. 4655 06:30:27,121 --> 06:30:32,002 Benefiting our residents. Providing grants or inkind support reflects council's 4656 06:30:32,002 --> 06:30:35,602 commitment to partnering with these groups while also recognizing that 4657 06:30:35,602 --> 06:30:38,402 the town has financial constraints that limit its ability to 4658 06:30:38,402 --> 06:30:42,655 deliver all of these services directly. Each year as part 4659 06:30:42,655 --> 06:30:46,415 of the annual budget process, cancel allocates a defined amount 4660 06:30:46,415 --> 06:30:50,405 of funding for this purpose. Staff were asked to develop 4661 06:30:50,405 --> 06:30:53,245 and refine a policy that helps cancel allocate those funds. 4662 06:30:53,245 --> 06:30:55,445 In a way that is fair, predictable and aligned with 4663 06:30:55,445 --> 06:31:00,362 cancel's priorities. Historically before this policy funding request came to 4664 06:31:00,362 --> 06:31:02,762 cancel at different times throughout the year and through various 4665 06:31:02,762 --> 06:31:07,042 channels, including deputations. Over the past few years, the Tan 4666 06:31:07,042 --> 06:31:10,522 and council have moved towards a more streamlined and structured 4667 06:31:10,522 --> 06:31:16,248 process, and this revised policy builds on that progress. The 4668 06:31:16,248 --> 06:31:19,768 updates reflect and they're included in the appendix and highlighted 4669 06:31:19,768 --> 06:31:22,248 what the changes that staff are proposing for council to 4670 06:31:22,248 --> 06:31:27,700 consider. It reflects feedback from prior years input that from 4671 06:31:27,700 --> 06:31:30,780 a 2025 council survey and best practices used by other 4672 06:31:30,780 --> 06:31:36,900 municipalities. The recommendations updates focus on clarity, equity, and accountability 4673 06:31:36,900 --> 06:31:41,247 in particular. First. A maximum award limit is being introduced 4674 06:31:41,247 --> 06:31:44,847 for cancel to consider no more than 10,000 in funding 4675 06:31:44,847 --> 06:31:48,527 and or 10,000 in inkind support per applicant. This helps 4676 06:31:48,527 --> 06:31:53,763 ensures. Equitable distribution of limited resources and sets clear expectations 4677 06:31:53,763 --> 06:31:58,342 for applicants from the beginning. Second, the policy introduces a 4678 06:31:58,342 --> 06:32:02,422 restriction on additional funding requests for the same program within 4679 06:32:02,422 --> 06:32:06,182 the same fiscal year. Once the funding is awarded, recipients 4680 06:32:06,182 --> 06:32:09,182 may not return through deputations and request more funding. For 4681 06:32:09,182 --> 06:32:12,702 the same initiative. This would help promote fairness of predictability. 4682 06:32:14,756 --> 06:32:19,478 Third, the organizational existence requirement has been removed. To broaden 4683 06:32:19,478 --> 06:32:22,758 eligibility and allows newer or less formal community groups to 4684 06:32:22,758 --> 06:32:26,958 apply while still maintaining accountability through the application and review 4685 06:32:26,958 --> 06:32:31,392 process. And finally, the policy a stronger language to clarify 4686 06:32:31,392 --> 06:32:34,232 that the funding may not be used for general operating 4687 06:32:34,232 --> 06:32:39,203 costs such as salaries. And other operating cost. Requests must 4688 06:32:39,203 --> 06:32:42,843 be tied to specific projects, initiatives, or programs that deliver 4689 06:32:42,843 --> 06:32:47,075 a clear community benefit. I'm happy to answer any questions 4690 06:32:47,075 --> 06:32:51,747 that you may have and. If there's other additional amendments 4691 06:32:51,747 --> 06:32:53,947 that you would like to see, I'm happy to. Take 4692 06:32:53,947 --> 06:32:58,387 that into the feedback and return with a revised policy. 4693 06:32:58,387 --> 06:33:03,144 Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Look to the gallery. No 4694 06:33:03,144 --> 06:33:08,607 online. Thank you, clerk. So I will read in the 4695 06:33:08,607 --> 06:33:13,327 recommendation that staff report 20 25 22 amendment to the 4696 06:33:13,327 --> 06:33:17,567 council community grant policy be received and that council hereby 4697 06:33:17,567 --> 06:33:21,936 adopts the amendments to the council community grant. Policy. As 4698 06:33:21,936 --> 06:33:25,863 detailed in appendix a. Can I have a mover? Councilor 4699 06:33:25,863 --> 06:33:33,093 Doherty seconded. Councilor jeffrey. And councilor Potts. Thanks, chair Perry. 4700 06:33:33,093 --> 06:33:37,750 Just very brief. I fully support. This. I think the 4701 06:33:37,750 --> 06:33:40,510 one thing that I'm quite satisfied with is the maximum 4702 06:33:40,510 --> 06:33:44,030 award limit. I know it gets a little bit challenging, 4703 06:33:44,030 --> 06:33:47,630 and this really puts some kind of guardrails on limits, 4704 06:33:47,630 --> 06:33:51,989 and I think. It offers more of. I guess a 4705 06:33:51,989 --> 06:33:55,309 fair process across the board. As far as for anybody 4706 06:33:55,309 --> 06:33:59,751 that's applying for the funding. It may provide more opportunity 4707 06:33:59,751 --> 06:34:03,111 for more organizations to get funding than taking up the 4708 06:34:03,111 --> 06:34:05,271 pot of what's there. So I'm in full support of 4709 06:34:05,271 --> 06:34:11,297 this and I'm quite happy. With. These changes. So those 4710 06:34:11,297 --> 06:34:15,177 are just my comments. Councilor ring. Thank you very much, 4711 06:34:15,177 --> 06:34:22,301 chair Perry through. You two. Treasurer Graham. The II him 4712 06:34:22,301 --> 06:34:25,141 in favor of all the amendments. But I have a 4713 06:34:25,141 --> 06:34:31,543 question. With just the one that. Was taken out. What 4714 06:34:31,543 --> 06:34:34,863 was the rationale? For taking off the minimum of one 4715 06:34:34,863 --> 06:34:38,657 year an organization has to be before. That makes them 4716 06:34:38,657 --> 06:34:42,231 eligible. There's your Graham. Thank you. Chair, Perry. Through you 4717 06:34:42,231 --> 06:34:45,951 to camp. Fliring the rationale. Was to open it up 4718 06:34:45,951 --> 06:34:52,507 for more organizations to apply. Again, it was a suggestion. 4719 06:34:52,507 --> 06:34:55,307 If we want to reinstate it, that's okay too, but. 4720 06:34:55,307 --> 06:34:59,695 The rationale was. Trying to not limit it to being 4721 06:34:59,695 --> 06:35:03,887 in existence for more than one year. Yeah. Thank you 4722 06:35:03,887 --> 06:35:09,680 very much, and I appreciate that. It's not that big 4723 06:35:09,680 --> 06:35:12,000 a deal. I just wondered what the rationale was. I 4724 06:35:12,000 --> 06:35:14,880 would have thought that maybe an organization should have been 4725 06:35:14,880 --> 06:35:17,800 around at least a year before we start giving grants. 4726 06:35:17,800 --> 06:35:21,360 But if that's the will of everybody else, and I 4727 06:35:21,360 --> 06:35:29,122 will support it. The other question, Mayor Hamlin. Thank you. 4728 06:35:29,122 --> 06:35:31,602 I'm in support of this. I just have a question. 4729 06:35:31,602 --> 06:35:34,162 One of the issues we seem to have run into 4730 06:35:34,162 --> 06:35:38,678 last year is. The particular group would have applied for 4731 06:35:38,678 --> 06:35:43,286 a certain amount. And we were trying to divide it 4732 06:35:43,286 --> 06:35:47,478 up fairly, and so they didn't get enough funds. To 4733 06:35:47,478 --> 06:35:50,198 deliver the program they were seeking money for. And I'm 4734 06:35:50,198 --> 06:35:53,844 wondering if this year. In the application process. There can 4735 06:35:53,844 --> 06:35:58,194 be more information on that provided to council. Thank you. 4736 06:36:00,223 --> 06:36:04,985 Director graham. Thank you, Chair Perry. I agree. That was 4737 06:36:04,985 --> 06:36:07,625 a challenge last year and part of the reason why. 4738 06:36:09,231 --> 06:36:11,071 Staff and through council feedback that we received through the 4739 06:36:11,071 --> 06:36:15,209 survey. To recommend a maximum limit of 10,000 is to 4740 06:36:15,209 --> 06:36:18,129 clearly state at the very beginning that that is the 4741 06:36:18,129 --> 06:36:20,729 most that they can do. I don't believe the intent 4742 06:36:20,729 --> 06:36:25,672 is to fully fund any initiative, it's to contribute. Toward 4743 06:36:25,672 --> 06:36:28,552 a special project that a community group is doing. And, 4744 06:36:28,552 --> 06:36:31,392 in fact, the application that we have right now is 4745 06:36:31,392 --> 06:36:35,072 meant to show other funding sources. I don't think it 4746 06:36:35,072 --> 06:36:37,952 does say already in the policy that it's not meant. 4747 06:36:37,952 --> 06:36:40,472 To be fully funded from the town of Collingwood and 4748 06:36:40,472 --> 06:36:43,472 having that guardrail of the maximum amount. I think would 4749 06:36:43,472 --> 06:36:49,316 temper expectations. From applicants to know that that would be 4750 06:36:49,316 --> 06:36:52,076 the most that they could potentially receive. Okay. Thank you. 4751 06:36:53,722 --> 06:36:58,531 Councilor ring. No, just another quick question on the maximum. 4752 06:37:01,621 --> 06:37:06,280 The maximum can be 20,000, can it not? Be 20,000 4753 06:37:06,280 --> 06:37:16,225 total. Treasurer Graham. You're actually correct with the 4754 06:37:16,225 --> 06:37:19,705 way that it's written with the and or I believe 4755 06:37:19,705 --> 06:37:22,625 it should be or, and the and should be removed. 4756 06:37:22,625 --> 06:37:24,785 That's an excellent catch. Thank you very much. That was 4757 06:37:24,785 --> 06:37:26,745 the attend. I was going to make an amendment because 4758 06:37:26,745 --> 06:37:28,185 the way I read it, they could have up to 4759 06:37:28,185 --> 06:37:32,763 20,000. No, that's an excellent catch. Thank you okay? I 4760 06:37:32,763 --> 06:37:38,263 do read some of the reports. Councilor Potts. Thanks again, 4761 06:37:38,263 --> 06:37:44,669 chair Perry. And just talking about. The maximum limit through 4762 06:37:44,669 --> 06:37:49,123 you to the treasurer. Is there any way that. They 4763 06:37:49,123 --> 06:37:55,105 could put on almost. A minimum. Maximum, so. Basically because 4764 06:37:55,105 --> 06:37:59,183 I think sometimes. With the best intentions of council to 4765 06:37:59,183 --> 06:38:03,429 provide money to be able to help them out. Not 4766 06:38:03,429 --> 06:38:05,989 going to use the word insult, but if somebody asked 4767 06:38:05,989 --> 06:38:09,454 for $5,000 and they get 300. I think it's a 4768 06:38:09,454 --> 06:38:12,174 waste of time and resources and finances. So I think 4769 06:38:12,174 --> 06:38:16,139 I look at. Is there kind of an expectation of 4770 06:38:16,139 --> 06:38:19,619 what they're, here's the maximum. But is there an expectation 4771 06:38:19,619 --> 06:38:22,659 of what? At least, the very least a minimum. I 4772 06:38:22,659 --> 06:38:24,899 don't know if it makes any sense, but just to 4773 06:38:24,899 --> 06:38:26,859 kind of, because if I'm looking at it, I'm going 4774 06:38:26,859 --> 06:38:29,819 well, I'm trying to spread the wealth to ensure that 4775 06:38:29,819 --> 06:38:33,525 all these organizations are looked after. I would want to 4776 06:38:33,525 --> 06:38:35,485 hope that I wouldn't be kind of. I want them 4777 06:38:35,485 --> 06:38:38,005 to feel like they're worth something as well, instead of 4778 06:38:38,005 --> 06:38:42,679 getting a minuscule amount. Treasurer Graham. Thank you, Chair Perry. 4779 06:38:42,679 --> 06:38:45,639 I think that's an excellent idea. We absolutely could update 4780 06:38:45,639 --> 06:38:52,465 the application form. To. Include that in it. We would 4781 06:38:52,465 --> 06:38:55,585 put the maximum you are applying for, noting that you 4782 06:38:55,585 --> 06:38:58,976 may not receive at all what? Is the minimum. That 4783 06:38:58,976 --> 06:39:02,747 you would accept, I suppose. Really? To be able to 4784 06:39:02,747 --> 06:39:05,227 use this funding. So, yes, we can update the application 4785 06:39:05,227 --> 06:39:11,066 to include that. Councilor jeffrey. So. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 4786 06:39:12,799 --> 06:39:15,679 So, further to councilor Ring's question, I was having a 4787 06:39:15,679 --> 06:39:18,519 problem with Yandor because. I thought maybe we were trying 4788 06:39:18,519 --> 06:39:21,039 to find a way. I'm assuming people can still do 4789 06:39:21,039 --> 06:39:25,199 a combination like 5000 in kind and 5000 cash, and 4790 06:39:25,199 --> 06:39:28,319 that really wasn't clarified in there. So I'd like to 4791 06:39:28,319 --> 06:39:31,267 think it was up to a maximum of ten. Thousand. 4792 06:39:32,533 --> 06:39:38,448 Distributed however they want, between if they want. Treasure Graham. 4793 06:39:38,448 --> 06:39:40,928 Thank you, chair Perry. Absolutely. So we'll just make sure 4794 06:39:40,928 --> 06:39:44,088 that that wording. Is more explicit that it's 10,000 is 4795 06:39:44,088 --> 06:39:50,748 a maximum. A combination of inkind. Or financial support. So. 4796 06:39:50,748 --> 06:39:54,967 Just one sec. Just so I'm clear that. We're not 4797 06:39:54,967 --> 06:39:57,856 making an amendment for any of this. It's going to 4798 06:39:57,856 --> 06:40:01,776 be or 10,000, like it's one one or the. Other, 4799 06:40:01,776 --> 06:40:08,667 right? Well, no. I know. It could be five. Thousand 4800 06:40:08,667 --> 06:40:11,107 grant and 5000 in kind, but it's going to be 4801 06:40:11,107 --> 06:40:15,468 a total of 10,000 total of 10,000. Okay. All right. 4802 06:40:15,908 --> 06:40:20,073 Vice chair, bains. Thank you. Chair. Just to follow up 4803 06:40:20,073 --> 06:40:25,083 to councilor Potts question. It's sort of like in the 4804 06:40:25,083 --> 06:40:29,163 application that staff might be asking the applicants something to. 4805 06:40:29,163 --> 06:40:31,683 The tune that if, in the event you are unsuccessful 4806 06:40:31,683 --> 06:40:37,690 at getting the choose a number. $5,000 you're requesting. I 4807 06:40:37,690 --> 06:40:42,460 know what the answer would be. Are you confident? You 4808 06:40:42,460 --> 06:40:46,197 can deliver. Oh, gee, I'm thinking out loud here. The 4809 06:40:46,197 --> 06:40:49,317 program that you are promising to deliver for the lesser 4810 06:40:49,317 --> 06:40:52,074 amount of money. I have to think this through. Sorry. 4811 06:40:55,828 --> 06:41:00,963 Yeah, for another time. So there's a minute and a 4812 06:41:00,963 --> 06:41:01,883 half I'm not getting back. 4813 06:41:13,041 --> 06:41:15,281 Councilor Potts kind of took the words right out of 4814 06:41:15,281 --> 06:41:17,321 my mouth when I saw the maximum. And I didn't 4815 06:41:17,321 --> 06:41:20,681 read it as clearly as councilor ring, but when I 4816 06:41:20,681 --> 06:41:23,121 saw a maximum there. I was quite pleased to see 4817 06:41:23,121 --> 06:41:30,449 that. And looking at it in the bottom end. It'd 4818 06:41:30,449 --> 06:41:33,609 be nice. It's nice to have a minimum, too, because 4819 06:41:33,609 --> 06:41:35,489 I know when I was filling out the form last 4820 06:41:35,489 --> 06:41:38,169 year, there was one that I can't remember the figure, 4821 06:41:38,169 --> 06:41:41,180 but it was almost. Like councilor Pott said, it was 4822 06:41:41,180 --> 06:41:44,624 almost an insult. And I find every year we're getting 4823 06:41:44,624 --> 06:41:47,549 better and better at this. I know. The first year 4824 06:41:47,549 --> 06:41:50,171 we didn't have anything. And it was a bit of 4825 06:41:50,171 --> 06:41:55,993 a nightmare. We're getting it better and better. I know 4826 06:41:55,993 --> 06:41:58,473 I can probably speak for most people at this table 4827 06:41:58,473 --> 06:42:02,193 that it's a stressful time of year doing these grants 4828 06:42:02,193 --> 06:42:05,827 because you're trying to make everybody happy. And the more 4829 06:42:05,827 --> 06:42:09,827 guidance we get from up above, the better. Anyhow, those 4830 06:42:09,827 --> 06:42:13,554 are my comments. So I'll put the recommendation on the 4831 06:42:13,554 --> 06:42:19,876 floor. All those in favor? And that's unanimous. Okay, thank 4832 06:42:19,876 --> 06:42:23,104 you. Thank you, Treasurer Graham. And that's with the correction 4833 06:42:23,104 --> 06:42:27,544 of the and or. Yeah, I just wanted to make 4834 06:42:27,544 --> 06:42:29,304 sure we weren't going to do an amendment on that. 4835 06:42:30,882 --> 06:42:34,479 We'll correct it in the. Right. Okay. Thank you. Be 4836 06:42:34,479 --> 06:42:37,959 corrected in the amended section when it comes to council. 4837 06:42:37,959 --> 06:42:46,841 Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Deputations unregistered. Okay. No deputations, reports, 4838 06:42:46,841 --> 06:42:51,921 minutes of other committees are boards. The recommendation is that 4839 06:42:51,921 --> 06:42:55,001 the following minutes of other committees and boards be received 4840 06:42:55,001 --> 06:43:01,698 and the recommendations contain therein be approved. Calling with public 4841 06:43:01,698 --> 06:43:06,018 Library Board October 23, 2025. The trail is an active 4842 06:43:06,018 --> 06:43:12,136 transportation advisory committee. November 13, 2025. And the Collingwood Public 4843 06:43:12,136 --> 06:43:17,206 Library Board November 27. 2025. Can I have a mover? 4844 06:43:19,080 --> 06:43:22,600 Councilor McCulloch seconded. Deputy Mayor Friar. All those in favor? 4845 06:43:24,309 --> 06:43:31,071 And that's unanimous. Thank you. Old or deferred business. Councilor 4846 06:43:31,071 --> 06:43:36,487 Potts. Okay, all right. Other business. Older, deferred. Oh, no, 4847 06:43:36,487 --> 06:43:42,551 I just did that. Sorry. Other business. Councilor Potts, this 4848 06:43:42,551 --> 06:43:44,551 will be very brief, and it'll be something that I 4849 06:43:44,551 --> 06:43:47,191 would. Like to bring forward in the new year. I 4850 06:43:47,191 --> 06:43:49,111 just thought maybe if I dropped it now and. It 4851 06:43:49,111 --> 06:43:51,391 would give staff some time, but I would like to 4852 06:43:51,391 --> 06:43:55,831 look at the potential of bringing back the shipyard whistle 4853 06:43:55,831 --> 06:43:58,751 to the town of Collingwood so that we could have. 4854 06:44:00,614 --> 06:44:04,043 Something to. Bring us back quite a few years ago, 4855 06:44:04,043 --> 06:44:07,283 and I know that I've seen a documentary. On tv 4856 06:44:07,283 --> 06:44:10,163 last night after the one about Collingwood, that there are 4857 06:44:10,163 --> 06:44:13,442 still some municipalities that do that. And whether it was 4858 06:44:13,442 --> 06:44:16,602 set up somehow, but I would like to just put 4859 06:44:16,602 --> 06:44:19,642 it there to see. If there was any appetite to 4860 06:44:19,642 --> 06:44:29,221 bring that back. West. Councilor McCullough. This isn't. A terribly 4861 06:44:29,221 --> 06:44:31,221 serious comment, but I did say to someone over the 4862 06:44:31,221 --> 06:44:33,141 weekend it would be nice if we had an air 4863 06:44:33,141 --> 06:44:36,101 raid siren so that we could notify the entire town 4864 06:44:36,101 --> 06:44:40,122 all at once. Of something like a water leak. So 4865 06:44:40,122 --> 06:44:44,002 maybe the whistle would do that job. Councilor ring. I 4866 06:44:44,002 --> 06:44:47,425 think it's a great idea and. I certainly support it. 4867 06:44:47,425 --> 06:44:50,911 I'm just wondering, do you know where it is? Or 4868 06:44:50,911 --> 06:44:55,205 just get one. Not sure we're supposed to be chatting 4869 06:44:55,205 --> 06:45:00,760 about it. Or can we? Why? Okay. No, that's fine. 4870 06:45:00,760 --> 06:45:02,960 Go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. 4871 06:45:02,960 --> 06:45:05,320 I think my point was, I don't think you'd be 4872 06:45:05,320 --> 06:45:07,720 looking for the exact. One. And if it was, my 4873 06:45:07,720 --> 06:45:12,765 vision would be something. Whether through the museum. It wouldn't 4874 06:45:12,765 --> 06:45:15,045 have to be three times a day or two times 4875 06:45:15,045 --> 06:45:17,405 a day, because the tremont is not there to go 4876 06:45:17,405 --> 06:45:20,925 to anymore, but back in the day. But I think 4877 06:45:20,925 --> 06:45:24,245 it would be something that would be really bring back 4878 06:45:24,245 --> 06:45:26,325 the history of the shipyard, especially with the naming. Of 4879 06:45:26,325 --> 06:45:31,552 the park. With the shipyard. The dry dock junction and 4880 06:45:31,552 --> 06:45:35,152 just the whole history piece, I think, would be something 4881 06:45:35,152 --> 06:45:39,457 that would be. Extremely valuable. And historical to Collingwood. So 4882 06:45:39,457 --> 06:45:42,601 I wanted to kind of. Drop actually, after the documentary 4883 06:45:42,601 --> 06:45:44,401 last night and seen that there are many policies to 4884 06:45:44,401 --> 06:45:48,355 do that. I want to bring something forward in the 4885 06:45:48,355 --> 06:45:52,663 new year, but allow staff some time. And. To maybe 4886 06:45:52,663 --> 06:45:54,863 potentially come up with how we can move forward on 4887 06:45:54,863 --> 06:45:59,521 that. Yeah, very interesting. Councilor ring. Sorry, I didn't mean 4888 06:45:59,521 --> 06:46:01,401 to cut you off that's. Okay. Just one quick comment. 4889 06:46:03,239 --> 06:46:05,439 The first time they heard that whistle going, I'll tell 4890 06:46:05,439 --> 06:46:07,519 you, all the old guys would be on their bicycles. 4891 06:46:07,519 --> 06:46:11,655 But their lunch. Palestinian. Back to the shipyard. Deputy mayor. 4892 06:46:15,144 --> 06:46:19,024 I thought about a couple of things in regards to 4893 06:46:19,024 --> 06:46:22,523 budget, and I just want to mention them. Here. And 4894 06:46:22,523 --> 06:46:25,785 ask. I wanted to ask through you, if I could, 4895 06:46:25,785 --> 06:46:30,328 to treasure Graham. We have the special capital levy charge, 4896 06:46:30,328 --> 06:46:32,728 and we have the capital charge now. And we have 4897 06:46:32,728 --> 06:46:37,388 the capital charge. Split out. Originally, the special capital levy 4898 06:46:37,388 --> 06:46:41,799 was introduced because we didn't have that split out. Is 4899 06:46:41,799 --> 06:46:45,463 there any reason in your mind why those two. Couldn't 4900 06:46:45,463 --> 06:46:49,839 be brought together. Into one. Spot instead of having two 4901 06:46:49,839 --> 06:46:53,385 spots. And just asking that. And if there is, then 4902 06:46:53,385 --> 06:46:57,675 I'll bring that forward at budget time. To combine those 4903 06:46:57,675 --> 06:47:01,275 two. But there may be reasons why you would like 4904 06:47:01,275 --> 06:47:03,635 to have those two splits. So I won't ask that 4905 06:47:03,635 --> 06:47:06,884 if I could. Thank you, chair Perry. It was actually 4906 06:47:06,884 --> 06:47:10,364 a council direction in the 2025 budget to split it. 4907 06:47:10,364 --> 06:47:13,404 Out to show the history of the special capital. Levy 4908 06:47:13,404 --> 06:47:16,164 was meant to close the funding gap and the general 4909 06:47:16,164 --> 06:47:18,724 capital levy was meant to highlight the amount that we 4910 06:47:18,724 --> 06:47:22,884 were at the town was contributing. Annually to our regular 4911 06:47:22,884 --> 06:47:27,738 capital program. I'm in favor of having one capital levy. 4912 06:47:27,738 --> 06:47:29,898 I think it's clear that we have a lot of 4913 06:47:29,898 --> 06:47:37,120 work to do to close. Our capital. Deficit that we're 4914 06:47:37,120 --> 06:47:39,640 in, and it probably would make a lot of sense 4915 06:47:39,640 --> 06:47:42,160 to residents if it was just called capital Levy and 4916 06:47:42,160 --> 06:47:46,450 didn't have the word special in front of it. Unfortunately, 4917 06:47:46,450 --> 06:47:50,674 we're going to be able to close our gap. Soon 4918 06:47:50,674 --> 06:47:56,454 without. Significant help from the other levels of government, so 4919 06:47:56,454 --> 06:47:58,654 I would be in favor of having just one. Capital 4920 06:47:58,654 --> 06:48:01,974 levy. Thank you. Thanks. And I was just thinking back 4921 06:48:01,974 --> 06:48:04,414 to when we originally created the special. Capital levy. It 4922 06:48:04,414 --> 06:48:07,614 was because we wanted to show that we were starting 4923 06:48:07,614 --> 06:48:12,294 to put effort into increases. But it was because the 4924 06:48:12,294 --> 06:48:15,110 rest. Of the capital levy was combined in the municipal 4925 06:48:15,110 --> 06:48:18,630 levy, so now we've got that out. As treasurer, Graham 4926 06:48:18,630 --> 06:48:22,122 said, we decided to split those out. For this year. 4927 06:48:23,742 --> 06:48:25,782 I'm going to bring that forward. And the last thing 4928 06:48:25,782 --> 06:48:28,342 I'll just mention is I was hoping that we could 4929 06:48:28,342 --> 06:48:32,416 get an outline. On the dollar impact for the water 4930 06:48:32,416 --> 06:48:36,336 and wastewater changes. When we are talking about budget and 4931 06:48:36,336 --> 06:48:44,196 finalization. Okay. Thank you. Councilor Dougherty. Sorry, sale. 4932 06:48:46,227 --> 06:48:49,317 Thank you. I just thought the deputy mayor was talking 4933 06:48:49,317 --> 06:48:53,548 about budget finalization. And I think that, well, there would 4934 06:48:53,548 --> 06:48:59,529 be the mayor's budget. Put forward. And then I guess 4935 06:48:59,529 --> 06:49:01,889 we'll have to have some discussion about if that would 4936 06:49:01,889 --> 06:49:06,893 come up. As another agenda item. Would. Okay. Council can 4937 06:49:06,893 --> 06:49:09,093 make an amendment to it can make an amendment at 4938 06:49:09,093 --> 06:49:14,698 that time. So there would be that amendment process. Available 4939 06:49:14,698 --> 06:49:20,672 for these questions, or we could follow up thereafter. Treasurer 4940 06:49:20,672 --> 06:49:25,227 Graham. Just to add just a little bit more information 4941 06:49:25,227 --> 06:49:29,370 to the CAO's comments. The mayor's budget when it's stable 4942 06:49:29,370 --> 06:49:31,970 doesn't have to be tabled. At a council meeting. I 4943 06:49:31,970 --> 06:49:34,650 think the intention is to. And I could be misspeaking 4944 06:49:34,650 --> 06:49:38,210 is. To have it tabled this week. Once that's tabled, 4945 06:49:38,210 --> 06:49:41,250 there still is 30 days. To make any amendment. So 4946 06:49:41,250 --> 06:49:45,233 if there are further conversations, there still will be. Opportunity 4947 06:49:45,233 --> 06:49:51,149 for cancel to have an opportunity. Okay. Thank you. Councilor 4948 06:49:51,149 --> 06:49:55,009 Dougherty, you had an Amo update. Do you want to 4949 06:49:55,009 --> 06:49:59,145 give us or not? Well, I did. But I want 4950 06:49:59,145 --> 06:50:02,191 to give you. The super short version because I feel 4951 06:50:02,191 --> 06:50:06,373 like. We've mentioned Amo a number of times this evening, 4952 06:50:06,373 --> 06:50:09,213 and some of the work that is ongoing right now. 4953 06:50:10,800 --> 06:50:14,947 But I will say. At our last board of directors 4954 06:50:14,947 --> 06:50:24,190 meeting for 2025. The focus. Was obviously on. Producer responsibility. 4955 06:50:25,559 --> 06:50:29,879 For recycling and all of the issues that have emerged. 4956 06:50:29,879 --> 06:50:34,719 And so that was very high on the discussion and 4957 06:50:34,719 --> 06:50:43,291 priority list. To deal with. Healthy democracy. Project. Is also 4958 06:50:43,291 --> 06:50:48,401 front and center right now. As we head into municipal 4959 06:50:48,401 --> 06:50:55,961 elections in Ontario. We tabled a budget. Our new CEO 4960 06:50:55,961 --> 06:51:03,897 presented strat plan for 2026. And there was also some 4961 06:51:03,897 --> 06:51:08,857 discussion about omers and changes that are underfoot there as 4962 06:51:08,857 --> 06:51:14,447 a result of governance review. And this also is a 4963 06:51:14,447 --> 06:51:20,775 priority. For amo because, of course, Omar's as a pension 4964 06:51:20,775 --> 06:51:26,809 fund also offers great incentives. To join the municipal sector. 4965 06:51:28,775 --> 06:51:33,415 Joel. If you want any details, ask me. Lair. Wonderful. 4966 06:51:33,415 --> 06:51:37,348 Thank you. Councilor Baines. Did you remember what you wanted 4967 06:51:37,348 --> 06:51:45,245 to say yet? No. I've forgotten already. Okay. Any notice 4968 06:51:45,245 --> 06:51:53,562 of motions? No. All right, so item 15.8.1. Rise from 4969 06:51:53,562 --> 06:51:57,402 committee of the whole. The recommendation is that council hearing. 4970 06:51:57,402 --> 06:51:59,642 Rise from committee of the whole. And return to the 4971 06:51:59,642 --> 06:52:03,242 regular council meeting. Can I have a mover? Councilor Pott? 4972 06:52:03,242 --> 06:52:07,602 Seconded. Councilor, ring all those in favor? And that's unanimous. 4973 06:52:07,602 --> 06:52:14,425 Thank you, Mayor Hamlin. Thank you. Palas bylaw is the 4974 06:52:14,425 --> 06:52:20,838 following that bylaw number 2025. 88 being a bylaw to 4975 06:52:20,838 --> 06:52:26,903 confirm the proceedings. Of the meet. Oh, my goodness. That's 4976 06:52:26,903 --> 06:52:35,564 a regular meeting of council held December 15, 2025. Be 4977 06:52:35,564 --> 06:52:41,239 enacted in past this 19th day of December, 2025. Move 4978 06:52:41,239 --> 06:52:44,570 on a second. She says, barely gasping. Councilor Paynes and 4979 06:52:44,570 --> 06:52:48,829 councilor pots, all those in favor? Deputy mayor, you can 4980 06:52:48,829 --> 06:52:58,409 do the adjournment. Okay, all those in favor? 4981 06:52:58,409 --> 06:53:01,169 Okay, we got it. Thanks, guys. Have a merry Christmas.