1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,925 Being of the Board of Directors for the 2 00:00:02,685 --> 00:00:04,565 Grateful Fire Protection District order, please stand 3 00:00:04,565 --> 00:00:08,805 for the Pledge of Ligi I 4 00:00:09,345 --> 00:00:12,445 Pgi to flag of the United States of America 5 00:00:13,105 --> 00:00:15,205 and to the republic for which stands? 6 00:00:15,705 --> 00:00:20,405 One Nation under God, individual liberty and justice. 7 00:00:21,305 --> 00:00:23,765 Please remain standing for a moment of silent reflection. 8 00:00:29,135 --> 00:00:30,205 Thank you. May be seated. 9 00:00:35,275 --> 00:00:37,405 Okay, roll call Adrian. 10 00:00:38,155 --> 00:00:40,765 Here, Patty. Here. Paige 11 00:00:42,555 --> 00:00:43,555 Here. 12 00:00:44,065 --> 00:00:46,725 And Dick is not here yet. Hold please. He is. He is. 13 00:00:46,745 --> 00:00:49,165 Oh, he is walking through the door. He made it. 14 00:00:49,265 --> 00:00:50,845 So Dick is here. 15 00:00:51,635 --> 00:00:54,525 Move your chair. John. And Alan's here. 16 00:00:55,465 --> 00:00:58,085 All right. Hello sir. 17 00:00:58,215 --> 00:00:59,845 Hello. So we have a full board tonight. 18 00:01:03,225 --> 00:01:04,845 You know, when make the grand entrance. Cody, 19 00:01:11,995 --> 00:01:13,165 talk to my chauffeur. 20 00:01:16,185 --> 00:01:17,845 He was born and raised in Aspen 21 00:01:18,185 --> 00:01:20,925 and you'd never show up on time in Aspen. 22 00:01:27,205 --> 00:01:29,565 I apologize for being late. Thank you. 23 00:01:30,175 --> 00:01:32,565 We're glad you're Here. We're glad you're here. Dick. 24 00:01:35,865 --> 00:01:38,765 You got it? We have an audience. 25 00:01:40,715 --> 00:01:42,485 When does church service start? 26 00:01:44,755 --> 00:01:46,765 Okay, we'll go on 27 00:01:46,765 --> 00:01:48,445 to the next item is the identify participants 28 00:01:49,445 --> 00:01:50,525 in the conference call. 29 00:01:51,875 --> 00:01:52,875 John. 30 00:01:53,195 --> 00:01:58,125 Okay. We have Bill Smith, 31 00:01:58,835 --> 00:02:02,125 Dino Ross, Eric Davis, Jonathan Baker, 32 00:02:02,815 --> 00:02:06,125 Kevin Alvy, Paige. 33 00:02:06,655 --> 00:02:08,005 We've got Paige. That's it. 34 00:02:08,395 --> 00:02:11,205 Okay, thanks. John. Do you have any additions? 35 00:02:11,205 --> 00:02:12,645 Relations to agenda Chief? 36 00:02:12,955 --> 00:02:14,165 None. Okay. 37 00:02:15,785 --> 00:02:18,645 Go on to item one, consent agenda. 38 00:02:19,235 --> 00:02:22,485 This consists of item a minutes of July 8th, 2026, 39 00:02:22,485 --> 00:02:25,925 special meeting B, minutes of August 11th, 2026, 40 00:02:25,925 --> 00:02:29,725 regular board meeting, August, 2026, financial reports 41 00:02:30,645 --> 00:02:32,805 D August, 2026, accounts payable reports 42 00:02:32,945 --> 00:02:36,525 and E August, 2026, Lexipol policy review. 43 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:39,245 Would anybody like to pull anything for further discussion? 44 00:02:41,465 --> 00:02:44,605 Not hearing. Anybody want to entertain a motion 45 00:02:44,705 --> 00:02:47,085 to pass the agenda? 46 00:02:47,525 --> 00:02:49,565 Consider agenda as presented. I'll 47 00:02:49,565 --> 00:02:51,165 Make a motion to pass the consent agenda. Second. 48 00:02:51,475 --> 00:02:54,805 Okay. Motion for Maddy and second from Asia. 49 00:02:54,945 --> 00:02:58,645 Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. 50 00:03:00,225 --> 00:03:01,005 You're on page. 51 00:03:05,395 --> 00:03:08,685 Okay, we're good? Yep. Aye. Okay. Thank you. 52 00:03:10,225 --> 00:03:13,165 All right. Item am two on the agenda as public comment. 53 00:03:13,545 --> 00:03:15,445 If anybody would like to speak, this is time to do it. 54 00:03:15,445 --> 00:03:19,565 You have three minutes. Oh, 55 00:03:19,565 --> 00:03:20,605 we actually got an audio tonight. 56 00:03:20,605 --> 00:03:25,165 Nobody wants to speak. Okay, we'll go on then 57 00:03:25,165 --> 00:03:26,765 to item three. 58 00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:28,805 This is a badge. Presentation is all introduced. 59 00:03:28,945 --> 00:03:29,965 Yes. Packet for that. 60 00:03:30,055 --> 00:03:34,565 Thank you. So doing things a little different here in 61 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:38,085 a badge ceremony to try to get 62 00:03:39,955 --> 00:03:41,325 some people badged up. 63 00:03:41,325 --> 00:03:44,845 And so tonight I appreciate everybody being here 64 00:03:45,145 --> 00:03:46,765 and welcome everybody. 65 00:03:47,505 --> 00:03:49,485 And we get the privilege of formally 66 00:03:50,285 --> 00:03:52,645 recognizing four members who have already been serving 67 00:03:53,265 --> 00:03:56,645 our organization and our communities in 68 00:03:56,645 --> 00:03:58,125 their respective positions. 69 00:03:58,495 --> 00:04:01,445 Lieutenant Mac McKowski engineer Robert Fields 70 00:04:01,945 --> 00:04:05,885 and firefighter paramedics, Joseph Billings and Dasha Stowe. 71 00:04:06,385 --> 00:04:08,925 So the badge is being Pite Bear. 72 00:04:09,105 --> 00:04:12,085 One of the fire services most during, during symbols, 73 00:04:12,765 --> 00:04:17,365 the Maltese cross its history is, is 74 00:04:17,995 --> 00:04:20,685 rich and traced back to the, the Knights of St. 75 00:04:20,685 --> 00:04:23,805 John who risks their lives rescuing others from fire. 76 00:04:24,425 --> 00:04:27,685 And over time, the Maltese cross has become associated 77 00:04:27,795 --> 00:04:31,405 with courage, sacrifice, protection, and service. 78 00:04:32,065 --> 00:04:35,165 And today it reminds us of the trust that comes 79 00:04:35,165 --> 00:04:37,205 with wearing the badge and our responsibility 80 00:04:37,505 --> 00:04:39,365 to answer when others are in need. 81 00:04:40,325 --> 00:04:43,245 Although tonight's ceremony formally 82 00:04:43,765 --> 00:04:46,565 recognizes these positions, it does not mark the beginning 83 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:48,485 of their service for what they've been doing. 84 00:04:49,205 --> 00:04:51,485 Each of these individuals has already been carrying 85 00:04:52,245 --> 00:04:53,645 the responsibility of their roles 86 00:04:53,705 --> 00:04:55,965 and demonstrating their commitment to CRFR 87 00:04:55,965 --> 00:04:58,965 and our district citizens and the communities that we serve. 88 00:04:59,525 --> 00:05:02,005 Lieutenant McKowski has accepted the responsibility 89 00:05:02,005 --> 00:05:06,805 of leading crews, making critical decisions as expected 90 00:05:06,805 --> 00:05:08,005 of a company officer. 91 00:05:08,805 --> 00:05:11,365 Engineer Fields has served in a position that 92 00:05:11,955 --> 00:05:14,325 demands technical knowledge, sound judgment, 93 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:17,245 and responsibility of safely getting our personnel 94 00:05:17,455 --> 00:05:19,605 where they need to be for an emergency. 95 00:05:19,985 --> 00:05:21,725 And firefighter paramedic Billings and 96 00:05:21,865 --> 00:05:26,405 and Stowe serve their roles, require their roles of 97 00:05:28,035 --> 00:05:30,405 technical knowledge, clinical judgment, 98 00:05:30,695 --> 00:05:32,405 compassion and composure. 99 00:05:32,585 --> 00:05:35,925 And each of these positions plays an integral role 100 00:05:35,985 --> 00:05:37,245 in CRFR success. 101 00:05:37,965 --> 00:05:40,565 So tonight's badge pinning is an opportunity 102 00:05:41,025 --> 00:05:44,045 to honor the work that they have already performed, the 103 00:05:44,565 --> 00:05:46,285 responsibilities they have accepted 104 00:05:46,905 --> 00:05:48,365 and the trust they have earned. 105 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:51,725 These badges represent more than ranks or title 106 00:05:52,145 --> 00:05:55,885 and they symbolize service, accountability, leadership, 107 00:05:55,905 --> 00:05:58,645 and commitment to the mission and values of CRFR. 108 00:05:58,945 --> 00:06:01,005 So on behalf of CRFR, congratulations 109 00:06:01,005 --> 00:06:04,085 to L Lieutenant Matt McKowski, engineer Robert Fields, 110 00:06:04,085 --> 00:06:06,085 firefighter paramedic, Joseph Billings 111 00:06:06,085 --> 00:06:08,045 and firefighter paramedic Asha Stoke. 112 00:06:09,105 --> 00:06:11,285 May you continue to wear these badges with pride. 113 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:15,165 So as we come up tonight, bring whoever's pinning you up 114 00:06:15,205 --> 00:06:17,085 with you and we'll give you the badge 115 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:20,325 and we will pin you, run you through the oath of office. 116 00:06:20,425 --> 00:06:21,805 So Lieutenant Mackey, 117 00:06:39,865 --> 00:06:41,725 All right, Raise your right hand. 118 00:06:41,785 --> 00:06:43,485 Repeat after me. I state your name. 119 00:06:43,865 --> 00:06:44,885 I'm Matthew Kowski 120 00:06:45,035 --> 00:06:47,005 Will faithfully support the Constitution 121 00:06:47,005 --> 00:06:48,565 of the United States, will faithfully 122 00:06:48,565 --> 00:06:50,645 Support the Constitution of the United States 123 00:06:50,985 --> 00:06:53,085 And of the state of Colorado, and of 124 00:06:53,085 --> 00:06:54,085 The state of Colorado. 125 00:06:54,345 --> 00:06:56,485 And the laws may pursuant thereto 126 00:06:56,825 --> 00:06:58,645 And the laws may pursuant thereto 127 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:01,765 And will faithfully perform the duties and 128 00:07:01,765 --> 00:07:02,845 Will faithfully perform the 129 00:07:02,845 --> 00:07:05,365 Duties as lieutenant as Lieutenant 130 00:07:05,465 --> 00:07:07,605 of Colorado River Fire Protection District as 131 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:11,325 Colorado of Colorado Fire Protection Protection District. 132 00:07:11,325 --> 00:07:12,205 Congratulations. 133 00:07:37,215 --> 00:07:38,165 Phone looks so nervous. 134 00:08:22,385 --> 00:08:23,385 That's all 135 00:08:26,345 --> 00:08:27,345 Robert. 136 00:08:27,345 --> 00:08:27,405 Robert Fields, 137 00:08:33,925 --> 00:08:34,625 who gets the 138 00:08:35,045 --> 00:08:36,425 One two together? 139 00:08:38,915 --> 00:08:39,915 Sorry about the other. 140 00:08:41,555 --> 00:08:44,065 Raise your name, repeat after me. I state your name. 141 00:08:44,425 --> 00:08:47,225 I Albert Fields will faithfully support the Constitution 142 00:08:47,225 --> 00:08:49,025 of the United States will faithfully support 143 00:08:49,025 --> 00:08:50,385 The Constitution of the United States 144 00:08:50,765 --> 00:08:53,105 and of the state of Colorado, and of the state of Colorado. 145 00:08:53,525 --> 00:08:57,085 And the laws may pursuant there too, and laws pursuant 146 00:08:57,985 --> 00:08:59,645 and will faithfully perform the duties 147 00:09:00,105 --> 00:09:02,565 and will faithfully perform the duties as an engineer 148 00:09:02,825 --> 00:09:03,885 of Sorry. 149 00:09:04,385 --> 00:09:06,685 Go ahead. As engineer of Colorado River Fire 150 00:09:06,685 --> 00:09:08,205 Protection District of Colorado River Fire 151 00:09:08,205 --> 00:09:08,645 Protection 152 00:09:43,865 --> 00:09:44,325 Joe Billings, 153 00:09:59,775 --> 00:10:00,775 Raise your right hand. 154 00:10:02,225 --> 00:10:03,725 Iye State, your name I Mr. 155 00:10:03,745 --> 00:10:06,005 Bowies will faithfully support the Constitution 156 00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:07,525 of the United States faithfully. 157 00:10:07,525 --> 00:10:09,365 Support the Constitution of the United States 158 00:10:09,665 --> 00:10:12,365 and of the state of Colorado, and of the state of Colorado. 159 00:10:12,745 --> 00:10:14,685 And the laws made pursuant thereto 160 00:10:14,945 --> 00:10:16,605 and the laws made pursuant thereto 161 00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:18,565 and will faithfully perform the duties 162 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:20,285 and will faithfully perform the duties 163 00:10:20,505 --> 00:10:21,725 as firefighter paramedic. 164 00:10:21,865 --> 00:10:22,885 As firefighter paramedic 165 00:10:23,225 --> 00:10:25,045 of the Colorado River Fire Protection District 166 00:10:25,185 --> 00:10:26,965 of Colorado River Fire Protection District. 167 00:10:40,715 --> 00:10:41,135 Thanks 168 00:11:01,845 --> 00:11:02,845 Asha. 169 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,045 Okay, stand up your head please. 170 00:11:19,155 --> 00:11:22,005 Alright. Your hand. I state your name. 171 00:11:22,485 --> 00:11:25,565 I, Josh Stone Will faithfully support the Constitution 172 00:11:25,645 --> 00:11:26,885 of the United States will 173 00:11:26,885 --> 00:11:29,445 Faithfully support the constitution of the United States 174 00:11:29,865 --> 00:11:31,125 And of the state of Colorado, 175 00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:32,565 And of the state of Colorado. 176 00:11:33,225 --> 00:11:35,245 And the laws may pursuant there too. 177 00:11:35,385 --> 00:11:36,805 And the laws may pursuant there 178 00:11:36,805 --> 00:11:37,805 Too. 179 00:11:37,805 --> 00:11:39,525 And will faithfully perform the duties and will 180 00:11:39,525 --> 00:11:40,725 Faithfully perform the duties 181 00:11:41,025 --> 00:11:42,685 As firefighter paramedic. As 182 00:11:42,685 --> 00:11:44,325 Firefighter paramedic Of the 183 00:11:44,525 --> 00:11:45,605 Colorado River Fire Protection 184 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:48,005 District of Colorado River Fire Protection District. 185 00:12:27,545 --> 00:12:29,965 Before we let y'all go, I'd like to stand up 186 00:12:29,965 --> 00:12:31,325 and have all of you come by 187 00:12:31,325 --> 00:12:33,205 and shake hands with the four fleets. 188 00:12:33,805 --> 00:12:35,285 I think it's so important that we recognize 189 00:12:35,705 --> 00:12:36,805 the great people. 190 00:12:36,825 --> 00:12:37,825 We have 191 00:12:38,705 --> 00:12:39,705 100%. 192 00:12:40,905 --> 00:12:44,325 Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. 193 00:12:44,325 --> 00:12:47,765 Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. 194 00:12:49,455 --> 00:12:51,965 Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. 195 00:12:53,395 --> 00:12:54,165 Good job guys. 196 00:13:02,375 --> 00:13:04,245 Thank you for being here. We're not gonna make you stay 197 00:13:04,245 --> 00:13:05,365 to the other boring parts of this. 198 00:13:05,365 --> 00:13:06,885 If you want to go, certainly welcome. 199 00:13:06,985 --> 00:13:09,565 You're welcome to stay. If you want to go, you can go. 200 00:13:10,405 --> 00:13:14,525 I think you should make them stay. They got a gift. 201 00:13:14,525 --> 00:13:15,485 They can stay. They're doing a good job. 202 00:13:16,305 --> 00:13:17,365 We shouldn't torture 'em now. 203 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:19,605 Thank you everybody. Appreciate 204 00:13:19,795 --> 00:13:20,795 Guys, thank you. 205 00:13:21,895 --> 00:13:23,285 Thank you for the board of directors. 206 00:13:25,935 --> 00:13:26,935 Think It's letting 207 00:13:27,675 --> 00:13:28,675 Yeah. 208 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:29,285 And let's, let's do it some more. 209 00:13:29,395 --> 00:13:32,205 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 210 00:13:34,435 --> 00:13:36,245 Okay. Presentation over. 211 00:13:36,245 --> 00:13:38,485 We're gonna go with item five or four on the agenda. 212 00:13:38,975 --> 00:13:41,165 Legal counsel updates. That's you, Dino? 213 00:13:43,385 --> 00:13:45,605 Yes sir. Being miss me And Mr. 214 00:13:45,885 --> 00:13:48,765 Chairman, the only thing that I believe 215 00:13:48,765 --> 00:13:52,285 that we've been working with chief staff on is the Lexi 216 00:13:52,385 --> 00:13:55,485 called Flexible policies that board approved. 217 00:13:57,425 --> 00:14:00,445 And that was Michelle and our Associate Attorney hearing. 218 00:14:02,075 --> 00:14:04,785 Other than that, we really haven't had much going on, 219 00:14:05,155 --> 00:14:06,185 which is a good thing. 220 00:14:07,495 --> 00:14:09,745 Same. We're not the legislative session yet, 221 00:14:10,445 --> 00:14:12,385 so everything's good for my, 222 00:14:17,755 --> 00:14:18,755 Any questions for Dino? 223 00:14:21,765 --> 00:14:23,655 Nope. Okay. Seeing none, Dino. Thank you. 224 00:14:27,045 --> 00:14:28,655 Okay, fire chief report item five. 225 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:31,255 So I am opening it up 226 00:14:31,255 --> 00:14:34,615 because I didn't actually get one into this board packet 227 00:14:34,615 --> 00:14:37,055 because I was gone for that. 228 00:14:37,115 --> 00:14:41,695 So I apologize for not having a board report in this board. 229 00:14:41,695 --> 00:14:46,535 Packet was able to take some time off 230 00:14:46,535 --> 00:14:48,695 and that's where I was at for my wife 231 00:14:48,695 --> 00:14:50,415 and i's 25th wedding anniversary. 232 00:14:50,555 --> 00:14:51,765 That's why it didn't get one. 233 00:14:52,385 --> 00:14:55,645 And tonight's board packet, you have new business items 234 00:14:55,705 --> 00:14:58,325 of review and approve the 2027 budget calendar 235 00:14:58,825 --> 00:15:01,525 and appoint director Tillman as the budget officer. 236 00:15:02,345 --> 00:15:05,765 Review current EMS rates and pro projections. 237 00:15:05,795 --> 00:15:06,845 When we go over that it, 238 00:15:07,125 --> 00:15:10,365 I think we last raised him in 2022 going into 2023. 239 00:15:10,665 --> 00:15:12,645 And we wanna make sure that we keep that in the forefront 240 00:15:12,705 --> 00:15:15,245 of, is it something we want to look at so we don't have 241 00:15:15,245 --> 00:15:17,685 to do big raises all the time 242 00:15:17,865 --> 00:15:21,445 or big raises when we do do them. 243 00:15:22,705 --> 00:15:24,365 And then three, review various vendors 244 00:15:24,505 --> 00:15:25,565 for financial software. 245 00:15:25,565 --> 00:15:27,125 This is just introducing to the board. 246 00:15:27,125 --> 00:15:31,125 We're not gonna ask any, any action items for, for that. 247 00:15:31,125 --> 00:15:32,525 Just to introduce the board to it. 248 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,565 I know we talked about it a little bit at the last month 249 00:15:34,815 --> 00:15:36,685 board meeting and John will go a little more in depth. 250 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:39,525 And then we have old business item include review 251 00:15:39,705 --> 00:15:41,725 of station 61 progress report. 252 00:15:43,185 --> 00:15:45,285 So last, the last week of August, 253 00:15:45,685 --> 00:15:48,285 CRFR received our valuations for 2027 254 00:15:48,385 --> 00:15:51,645 and I was actually expecting them to be lower than 255 00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:53,525 where we were going into 2026. 256 00:15:54,565 --> 00:15:56,565 I was actually pleasantly surprised 257 00:15:56,565 --> 00:15:58,125 to see it slightly above where we're at. 258 00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:00,125 We'll call it level because 259 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:01,245 that's essentially where we're at. 260 00:16:01,265 --> 00:16:03,645 But when you look at what we had to get back for credits 261 00:16:03,645 --> 00:16:06,205 and everything like that last year, we're not gonna have 262 00:16:06,205 --> 00:16:08,085 to do that again going into 2027. 263 00:16:08,265 --> 00:16:11,285 So for overall, I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised to see 264 00:16:11,285 --> 00:16:13,965 where we were at with our valuations 265 00:16:14,105 --> 00:16:18,885 and we look forward to presenting the first budget 266 00:16:19,185 --> 00:16:21,885 to the board of directors at next month's board meeting. 267 00:16:23,025 --> 00:16:26,445 And then the next one is, is is a hard one 268 00:16:27,665 --> 00:16:29,125 for all of the organization. 269 00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:31,165 I don't know if you have all heard yet or not, 270 00:16:31,545 --> 00:16:35,605 but Chief Carroll took a promotional opportunity 271 00:16:35,825 --> 00:16:38,565 for a division chief of training with Aspen Fire 272 00:16:39,145 --> 00:16:44,005 and effective September 11th this week she will 273 00:16:44,425 --> 00:16:47,685 no longer be with CRFR and that leaves a big hole with CRFR 274 00:16:47,945 --> 00:16:49,525 and, and we're sad to see her go, 275 00:16:50,745 --> 00:16:52,525 but we're also excited for her 276 00:16:52,625 --> 00:16:55,485 to take a promotional opportunity with Aspen Fire 277 00:16:55,505 --> 00:16:56,965 and build their training division up 278 00:16:57,595 --> 00:16:59,445 because it's a new position 279 00:16:59,445 --> 00:17:01,725 that they've never had within their department. 280 00:17:02,185 --> 00:17:05,445 And so I think Chief Carroll's success reflects her 281 00:17:05,445 --> 00:17:06,725 dedication, her leadership, 282 00:17:06,725 --> 00:17:08,165 and her commitment to the fire service. 283 00:17:08,825 --> 00:17:12,205 And it also speaks highly of all the CFR line personnel 284 00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:15,365 who have worked alongside her and shared knowledge with her 285 00:17:15,745 --> 00:17:18,365 and mentored her or prepared her for this next chapter. 286 00:17:18,545 --> 00:17:21,205 So although we're sad to see her go 287 00:17:21,205 --> 00:17:23,885 and we are working on filling the hole, we're also proud 288 00:17:23,945 --> 00:17:25,965 to see the success that she has 289 00:17:25,965 --> 00:17:29,045 and wish her the best in her new experience. 290 00:17:29,865 --> 00:17:31,325 Moving to Aspen Fire, 291 00:17:31,495 --> 00:17:33,485 Seems like we have quite a few relationships 292 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:34,565 with Aspen Fire somehow 293 00:17:36,105 --> 00:17:37,105 We, we do. 294 00:17:37,265 --> 00:17:38,605 Yes. It's a small, 295 00:17:38,675 --> 00:17:40,805 it's a small world in the fire service for sure. 296 00:17:41,705 --> 00:17:43,965 And then in, in closing, I'm appreciative 297 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:45,845 of memberships all in attitude 298 00:17:45,945 --> 00:17:47,845 and work ethic to responses training 299 00:17:47,905 --> 00:17:49,605 and the betterment of CRFR. 300 00:17:50,485 --> 00:17:51,485 Questions for me? 301 00:17:52,225 --> 00:17:55,815 Any questions for chief? Thank you Chief. 302 00:17:56,455 --> 00:17:58,985 They're just getting even for taking me, bringing me 303 00:17:58,985 --> 00:17:59,985 Down here. 304 00:18:02,115 --> 00:18:07,065 There you go. I don't 305 00:18:07,065 --> 00:18:08,465 know who's more honor you or Dick, 306 00:18:08,485 --> 00:18:08,705 but 307 00:18:13,495 --> 00:18:14,905 Okay, we're going on to item six. 308 00:18:15,005 --> 00:18:16,825 New business five items. 309 00:18:16,915 --> 00:18:21,545 We're gonna go to item 8 1 27, budget planning 310 00:18:21,545 --> 00:18:23,265 and preparation, which includes appointment 311 00:18:23,765 --> 00:18:27,465 of administrative director chairman to the 2027 budget 312 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:30,105 budget officer and review 313 00:18:30,105 --> 00:18:31,985 of the 2027 budget planning calendar. 314 00:18:33,205 --> 00:18:35,545 So this is part of our budgeting process every year, 315 00:18:36,015 --> 00:18:37,465 develop a budgeting calendar. 316 00:18:38,965 --> 00:18:42,025 PJ has done that and it's presented right here to you. 317 00:18:42,025 --> 00:18:45,345 And then we also adopt PJ as our budget director 318 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,625 Or we can appoint chief. 319 00:18:50,705 --> 00:18:52,785 I was gonna ask like do you, do you accept, 320 00:18:52,805 --> 00:18:53,805 Do you really want that? 321 00:18:54,395 --> 00:18:56,745 Don't accept like, can I turn it down? 322 00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:01,025 She doesn't want that because she still end up doing it 323 00:19:01,025 --> 00:19:02,065 because I have it all wrong. 324 00:19:03,485 --> 00:19:05,625 Can we do both the appointment of administrator 325 00:19:05,805 --> 00:19:10,675 and approve the budget plan calendar in both in one motion 326 00:19:10,695 --> 00:19:12,155 or is it a few separate motions, 327 00:19:12,945 --> 00:19:13,945 Do you know? 328 00:19:16,035 --> 00:19:17,435 I take 'em in separate motions 329 00:19:17,675 --> 00:19:18,715 'cause they go to different things. 330 00:19:19,185 --> 00:19:22,595 Okay. So who wants to appoint 331 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,995 Director Tillman as a budget officer? 2027 332 00:19:27,795 --> 00:19:28,795 I appoint. 333 00:19:29,865 --> 00:19:32,835 Okay, I see Dick Beaches. Okay. 334 00:19:33,145 --> 00:19:35,755 Okay. We have a motion by Dick, a second by Adrian. 335 00:19:36,255 --> 00:19:38,875 Any further discussion? All in favor? 336 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:43,415 Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you page. 337 00:19:43,845 --> 00:19:47,415 Okay, motion passes unanimously. Congratulations. 338 00:19:48,185 --> 00:19:52,535 Thank you. You're welcome. Are you excited? Super excited. 339 00:19:55,325 --> 00:19:59,295 Okay. Next item is to approve the budget calendar 340 00:19:59,915 --> 00:20:01,295 or any discussion on that. 341 00:20:04,255 --> 00:20:05,255 Entertain a motion to, 342 00:20:05,255 --> 00:20:06,815 we approve the clutch calendar as presented. 343 00:20:06,815 --> 00:20:08,255 Yep. That would be great if we could do that. 344 00:20:08,485 --> 00:20:11,135 Make sure I had some 2026 dates 345 00:20:11,275 --> 00:20:13,495 and not 2025 and 346 00:20:14,775 --> 00:20:15,775 Somebody wants to make that motion 347 00:20:16,435 --> 00:20:17,435 10 times. 348 00:20:18,235 --> 00:20:20,175 Oh yes. I'll make a motion to accept the second. 349 00:20:21,285 --> 00:20:24,175 Okay. Motion for mad a second from Dick. 350 00:20:24,715 --> 00:20:28,585 Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. 351 00:20:30,605 --> 00:20:32,945 Aye. Okay. Motion passes. You Unanim plea. 352 00:20:35,875 --> 00:20:38,945 Thank you pj. We're looking forward to all the stuff. 353 00:20:38,945 --> 00:20:41,505 You're gonna bless this but coming down the pike here 354 00:20:41,725 --> 00:20:43,105 And then we have elections next year. 355 00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:44,295 Good news. Oh great. 356 00:20:47,315 --> 00:20:49,125 Okay. Okay, go on to item 357 00:20:51,165 --> 00:20:52,525 B, review and discussion. 358 00:20:52,525 --> 00:20:54,965 Current EMS rates and projections. 359 00:20:55,705 --> 00:21:00,405 Is that you chief or is that okay? 360 00:21:00,605 --> 00:21:01,605 I mean, chief wants to take it. 361 00:21:03,475 --> 00:21:04,925 He's The, he knows this. 362 00:21:05,865 --> 00:21:10,725 So like chief said it, it's been going into 20, at the end 363 00:21:10,725 --> 00:21:13,245 of 2022, going into 2023 is the last time we kind 364 00:21:13,245 --> 00:21:15,765 of revisited this ambulance fee schedule. 365 00:21:15,785 --> 00:21:17,685 And so we just kind of wanted to put it back on the radar, 366 00:21:18,475 --> 00:21:19,925 look where we're at with everything and, 367 00:21:19,985 --> 00:21:21,485 and kind of evaluate is it time to 368 00:21:22,585 --> 00:21:24,245 do another fee increase for that? 369 00:21:24,265 --> 00:21:27,525 And so I printed you guys out, kind of a lot 370 00:21:27,525 --> 00:21:30,845 of different data that I was looking at to kind 371 00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:32,805 of help make some of these determinations with that. 372 00:21:33,145 --> 00:21:36,685 So I'll kind of walk you guys through that very top table. 373 00:21:37,225 --> 00:21:39,485 So that's just kind of our ambulance cost 374 00:21:39,485 --> 00:21:40,645 versus revenue analysis. 375 00:21:40,705 --> 00:21:44,245 So MTS cost, that's our medical transport service cost. 376 00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:46,765 And so that is the number that we submit 377 00:21:46,785 --> 00:21:51,765 to the Medicaid supplemental billing process every year. 378 00:21:51,765 --> 00:21:53,965 And so that number is actually audited through the state 379 00:21:53,965 --> 00:21:57,325 through that process saying, yep, that's what it costs to 380 00:21:58,395 --> 00:22:02,125 operate your medical transport service organization. 381 00:22:02,145 --> 00:22:05,485 So that separates out what is just from the fire side. 382 00:22:06,105 --> 00:22:08,805 But isn't the SRP just Colorado Medicaid? 383 00:22:09,185 --> 00:22:13,205 Yep. Medicaid But so we have not, I mean Medicaid 384 00:22:13,205 --> 00:22:15,045 outside of Colorado, if we have visitors sometimes. 385 00:22:15,045 --> 00:22:16,725 Right. So is that this is just the number 386 00:22:16,745 --> 00:22:18,165 for Colorado Medicaid. Oh, 387 00:22:18,235 --> 00:22:21,285 Well, so the MTS cost looks at our entire 388 00:22:21,515 --> 00:22:22,965 operating cost for, so not 389 00:22:22,965 --> 00:22:23,965 Just SRP? 390 00:22:23,965 --> 00:22:27,445 Yep. Okay. Overall cost. 391 00:22:27,465 --> 00:22:30,325 And, and there is a little bit of discrepancy in there 392 00:22:30,325 --> 00:22:33,925 because the MTS costs look at a fiscal year of, 393 00:22:35,385 --> 00:22:38,725 was it July to the end of June for that versus all 394 00:22:38,725 --> 00:22:40,085 of our data is a calendar year. 395 00:22:40,105 --> 00:22:44,485 So there is a little bit of, of discrepancy in that, 396 00:22:45,105 --> 00:22:47,485 but, but overall, just something for the board to be aware 397 00:22:47,485 --> 00:22:49,765 of when we look at transports over the past three years, 398 00:22:49,775 --> 00:22:53,205 we've actually been really level on our overall transports. 399 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:55,285 Yeah. With that. 400 00:22:55,285 --> 00:22:57,245 Does that, I'm sorry, that line concludes the base 401 00:22:57,245 --> 00:22:58,725 level plus the mileage. 402 00:23:00,145 --> 00:23:03,805 12 76, 12 79, 12 80. Where, where at? 403 00:23:04,185 --> 00:23:05,445 You said transport's the cost of 404 00:23:05,805 --> 00:23:06,805 Transport? 405 00:23:06,805 --> 00:23:07,485 Nope. Nope. So that's, that's our total transport. 406 00:23:07,485 --> 00:23:09,085 That's the number of transport, number of 407 00:23:09,165 --> 00:23:10,165 Transports number. 408 00:23:10,165 --> 00:23:11,165 Okay. That's why there's no dollar sign there. Yep. 409 00:23:11,565 --> 00:23:12,805 So that's the number of transport. 410 00:23:12,945 --> 00:23:16,085 So we're really within four transports over a three year 411 00:23:16,085 --> 00:23:18,085 period, which is kind of uncanny when you look at it. 412 00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:20,325 Yeah, that, that number right below there, 413 00:23:21,105 --> 00:23:24,285 that's the calculated cost of our transports. 414 00:23:24,285 --> 00:23:27,125 When we look at that. So you can see in 2023 415 00:23:28,655 --> 00:23:31,125 we're about 4,400 in the past two years that we've seen 416 00:23:31,125 --> 00:23:33,805 that climb about a thousand dollars each each year. 417 00:23:34,225 --> 00:23:36,165 And that goes back and it kind of correlates to 418 00:23:36,165 --> 00:23:38,685 that MTS costs since 2023 to 2025. 419 00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:41,365 That's about a 50% increase in our operating costs of 420 00:23:41,365 --> 00:23:42,285 that MTS program 421 00:23:43,595 --> 00:23:46,485 overall ordinary collections. 422 00:23:46,485 --> 00:23:49,645 So that, that's just what we collected that year 423 00:23:49,665 --> 00:23:51,085 for the services that we rendered 424 00:23:51,085 --> 00:23:52,725 through our normal billing processes. 425 00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:55,645 And then right below that collections per transport, 426 00:23:55,645 --> 00:24:00,485 that's just averaging out what we did as far as on average 427 00:24:00,545 --> 00:24:02,125 of those a hundred and 428 00:24:02,425 --> 00:24:06,805 or 1,280 transports, when we do all the math, 429 00:24:06,805 --> 00:24:09,205 that's about $546 per transport. 430 00:24:10,165 --> 00:24:12,285 I I will say one of the interesting things 431 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:15,045 that we did see when we were doing this analysis is in 2025 432 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:18,485 was the year that we switched up our CQI process 433 00:24:18,585 --> 00:24:19,845 and started outsourcing that. 434 00:24:20,505 --> 00:24:21,645 And between 2024 435 00:24:21,845 --> 00:24:23,205 and 2025, we did see 436 00:24:23,965 --> 00:24:26,365 a fairly significant jump in our EMS revenue. 437 00:24:26,505 --> 00:24:31,285 And so that as an indicator that that CQI process is helping 438 00:24:31,315 --> 00:24:34,245 with our cost recovery efforts on that. 439 00:24:34,245 --> 00:24:35,485 So that was kind of an interesting thing 440 00:24:35,485 --> 00:24:36,965 to look at when we pulled out the data on that 441 00:24:38,125 --> 00:24:40,005 supplemental payments, you can see those have kind 442 00:24:40,125 --> 00:24:41,805 of steadily increased. 443 00:24:41,865 --> 00:24:43,965 We just got our numbers from last week 444 00:24:43,985 --> 00:24:45,765 and that was $412,000. 445 00:24:45,765 --> 00:24:48,765 So that was about 300 or about a hundred thousand dollars 446 00:24:48,765 --> 00:24:50,405 more than what we actually budgeted this year. 447 00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:52,445 So that was a nice surprise with that. 448 00:24:52,905 --> 00:24:55,085 And then our total transport revenue costs 449 00:24:56,035 --> 00:24:59,325 over those three years, when we look at that overall, 450 00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:01,725 so when we look at our total cost recovery just from our 451 00:25:01,725 --> 00:25:03,165 billing process of what we bill 452 00:25:03,825 --> 00:25:07,405 and receive from Medicare, Medicaid, commercial insurance, 453 00:25:07,405 --> 00:25:08,685 private payers, all of that, 454 00:25:09,015 --> 00:25:12,525 we're recuperating about 13.1% in 2025. 455 00:25:12,525 --> 00:25:14,365 So you can see that's kind of slowly gone down from about 456 00:25:14,365 --> 00:25:17,445 16% to 13.5 to 13%. 457 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:21,205 If we think back at 458 00:25:21,425 --> 00:25:24,045 to 2022 when we were looking at this methodology, 459 00:25:24,065 --> 00:25:25,765 and one of the things that kind of threw a wrench in my 460 00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:28,285 planning is in 2022 we were really using methodology of, 461 00:25:28,305 --> 00:25:30,325 hey, if we could collect 20% 462 00:25:30,325 --> 00:25:32,445 of those MTS costs, what would that look like? 463 00:25:33,285 --> 00:25:36,925 Looking at these numbers and this data, it's not realistic 464 00:25:36,985 --> 00:25:40,445 to target a specific MTS data number for us. 465 00:25:41,245 --> 00:25:43,405 Which kind of jumps us down back into the, 466 00:25:43,505 --> 00:25:47,085 the pie chart there that that's our pay or breakdown. 467 00:25:47,185 --> 00:25:48,185 So 468 00:25:48,665 --> 00:25:50,965 Is there any, anything that says why these payment 469 00:25:50,965 --> 00:25:53,845 revenues are going down? Is there any, 470 00:25:54,545 --> 00:25:58,965 So the, the, the payment revenue has been pretty steady 471 00:25:58,985 --> 00:26:00,125 and and slowly increasing. 472 00:26:00,195 --> 00:26:01,885 It's just the cost of doing doing business 473 00:26:02,425 --> 00:26:03,725 has increased those substantially. 474 00:26:03,795 --> 00:26:05,805 What, what's, you know, you look at the, your amount 475 00:26:05,805 --> 00:26:08,125 of transports have been pretty much the same every year, 476 00:26:08,905 --> 00:26:12,725 but your, your cost overall substantial Yep. 477 00:26:12,865 --> 00:26:13,925 Up each year. Yeah. 478 00:26:13,925 --> 00:26:15,325 Insurance reimbursement doesn't 479 00:26:15,325 --> 00:26:16,405 look at cost of inflation though. 480 00:26:16,405 --> 00:26:18,805 And they haven't changed their reimbursements so long. 481 00:26:19,395 --> 00:26:21,965 Yeah. They were trying to take 'em away for our, 482 00:26:21,985 --> 00:26:23,925 our rural like add-ons and 483 00:26:24,035 --> 00:26:25,365 Yeah, all the rural add-ons. 484 00:26:28,025 --> 00:26:31,045 So the kind of the kind of why while the, 485 00:26:31,145 --> 00:26:34,725 the 20% MTS it sounds good in my head and on paper 486 00:26:35,325 --> 00:26:37,245 and all of that stuff, but when we look at this pie chart, 487 00:26:38,275 --> 00:26:41,525 71% of our payer source is Medicare, Medicaid 488 00:26:42,105 --> 00:26:46,205 and their various different programs that we do with that. 489 00:26:46,505 --> 00:26:48,485 And so when we look at that, that's a fixed price. 490 00:26:48,485 --> 00:26:50,325 It doesn't matter what we set our rates at, that's 491 00:26:50,325 --> 00:26:53,645 what the government is gonna pay us for that 22% 492 00:26:53,645 --> 00:26:55,765 of our revenue from that is commercial insurance. 493 00:26:55,785 --> 00:26:58,165 And that's really where we see the impact from any potential 494 00:26:58,165 --> 00:26:59,325 rate increase on that. 495 00:26:59,425 --> 00:27:03,045 So that's why for me, if, if we wanted to try 496 00:27:03,045 --> 00:27:06,325 to target 20% MTS, it would just, we would have astronomical 497 00:27:06,995 --> 00:27:09,765 billing rates that, that we would have have to pursue. 498 00:27:10,625 --> 00:27:12,045 And it would be pretty impartial 499 00:27:12,045 --> 00:27:13,285 to anything that we're looking at. 500 00:27:15,305 --> 00:27:19,245 If we go back down that the, the table below the pie chart, 501 00:27:19,785 --> 00:27:21,565 you can see what our current rates are at, 502 00:27:21,795 --> 00:27:24,285 what would it would look like if we did a 20%, a 30% 503 00:27:24,285 --> 00:27:25,565 and a 40% increase. 504 00:27:26,625 --> 00:27:29,965 We use the same methodology that Medicare and Medicaid use 505 00:27:29,965 --> 00:27:31,765 and the same methodology that we used as far 506 00:27:31,765 --> 00:27:34,165 as differentiating how much of an increase 507 00:27:34,165 --> 00:27:37,205 between B-L-S-A-L-S-A-L-S two, all that kind of stuff. 508 00:27:37,225 --> 00:27:40,365 And then calculating the mileage, figuring out 509 00:27:40,365 --> 00:27:41,565 what the BLS rate is. 510 00:27:41,865 --> 00:27:46,365 And then it's about a 19% increase for a LSA 71% increase 511 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:48,485 for a LS two and and so on and so forth. 512 00:27:48,485 --> 00:27:52,285 About 2% of that is mileage when we look at that. 513 00:27:52,285 --> 00:27:55,325 So that kind of gives the board a little bit of an idea 514 00:27:56,065 --> 00:27:58,445 of some rough estimates of where all of this would be. 515 00:27:58,465 --> 00:28:00,325 So if we did a 20% increase, 516 00:28:00,355 --> 00:28:03,925 we'd see potentially about a $33,000 increase in revenue. 517 00:28:04,885 --> 00:28:07,165 Nothing significant or nothing substantial. 518 00:28:07,165 --> 00:28:09,685 And none of these numbers are, are gonna pro produce 519 00:28:09,685 --> 00:28:12,965 that even if we go to a 40% increase, excuse me, 520 00:28:12,965 --> 00:28:15,285 we're looking at about $64,000 in 521 00:28:16,205 --> 00:28:17,365 potential increased revenue. 522 00:28:18,945 --> 00:28:20,285 And at the end of the day, like chief said, 523 00:28:20,285 --> 00:28:21,565 I think it's something that, that we want 524 00:28:21,565 --> 00:28:23,005 to keep on the, on the radar. 525 00:28:23,065 --> 00:28:25,405 We don't want to do giant increases. 526 00:28:25,405 --> 00:28:27,445 All of this money does add up at the end of the day 527 00:28:27,935 --> 00:28:30,645 after two or three years of, you know, even if it's 528 00:28:31,215 --> 00:28:33,885 extra $50,000 over a couple of years, that 529 00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:36,405 that does add up with that. 530 00:28:36,945 --> 00:28:40,645 And then the other thing that I, I'd like to ask the board 531 00:28:40,645 --> 00:28:43,805 to, to consider as we move forward with this in the, 532 00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:46,565 in the coming months is looking at, so every year 533 00:28:47,085 --> 00:28:49,925 Medicare does an ambulance inflation factor with that. 534 00:28:49,925 --> 00:28:51,045 They look at the inflation rates 535 00:28:51,045 --> 00:28:53,205 and adjust their Medicare rates accordingly. 536 00:28:54,745 --> 00:28:57,485 One of my thoughts is, so we don't have to revisit this 537 00:28:57,585 --> 00:28:59,645 as frequently is when those Medicare 538 00:29:00,315 --> 00:29:03,005 inflation factor ambulance inflation factors come out, 539 00:29:03,625 --> 00:29:07,045 is it possible to just automatically increase our rates by 540 00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:10,485 that same percentage to at least adjust for some of 541 00:29:10,485 --> 00:29:13,005 that inflation and whatnot? 542 00:29:16,505 --> 00:29:18,765 So with that, I'll open it up to some questions for 543 00:29:19,035 --> 00:29:22,405 that you guys have and see what, see what I can field and, 544 00:29:22,905 --> 00:29:24,885 And be before just ano ano you 545 00:29:24,995 --> 00:29:26,285 that question you asked about, 546 00:29:26,415 --> 00:29:30,405 about the revenues we receiving when we did this last time. 547 00:29:30,905 --> 00:29:34,005 It initially our pay rate was about a 60 40 split 548 00:29:34,345 --> 00:29:38,245 of the Medicare and now as we're about 70 30. 549 00:29:38,705 --> 00:29:40,045 And so that also is part 550 00:29:40,045 --> 00:29:43,045 of those reasons you're not seeing those revenues go up like 551 00:29:43,045 --> 00:29:45,805 they are Alan because we're only getting a certain amount 552 00:29:45,805 --> 00:29:47,325 of money from those Medicare Medicaid. 553 00:29:47,545 --> 00:29:50,605 And so as as that split goes up, we'll see that as well. 554 00:29:52,025 --> 00:29:54,965 What's your recommendation as far as the increase what, 555 00:29:54,965 --> 00:29:57,005 what staff like to see? 556 00:29:57,985 --> 00:29:59,685 You know, I think, well, 557 00:29:59,845 --> 00:30:02,245 well when we talk about percentages, it seems a lot. 558 00:30:02,325 --> 00:30:05,605 I think that 30% increase is, is reasonable with 559 00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:09,285 what we're seeing and and experiencing. 560 00:30:11,015 --> 00:30:14,325 We've been at the 40%, it's only gonna recoup 20 bucks. 561 00:30:15,385 --> 00:30:18,685 We do 1,280 calls next this year. It's 20 bucks per call. 562 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:20,405 Yeah. But part 563 00:30:20,405 --> 00:30:22,685 of the increase isn't just like our recovery. 564 00:30:22,865 --> 00:30:23,925 It is developing 565 00:30:23,945 --> 00:30:25,605 and kind of continuing to, you know, 566 00:30:25,945 --> 00:30:28,365 inform the federal government despite their lack 567 00:30:28,365 --> 00:30:31,365 of like paying attention that the cost of doing business 568 00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:33,925 that is going up 8.4 million now for the same number 569 00:30:33,925 --> 00:30:34,925 of calls is going up. 570 00:30:34,945 --> 00:30:36,085 So if we don't raise our rates 571 00:30:36,145 --> 00:30:38,405 and we are like, oh, well CRF is still doing it for, 572 00:30:38,625 --> 00:30:42,325 you know, less than $1,100 for a BLS call, they, 573 00:30:42,325 --> 00:30:43,565 they don't see any need to do that. 574 00:30:43,695 --> 00:30:45,485 Right. So there is some, I think 575 00:30:45,485 --> 00:30:47,805 that 30% is reasonable even though it's 576 00:30:47,805 --> 00:30:49,005 nominal like revenue. 577 00:30:49,395 --> 00:30:53,885 Yeah. Yeah. And, and not that this factors into anything. 578 00:30:54,505 --> 00:30:56,245 The legislation that was passed 579 00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:58,165 through the house in the state senate last year 580 00:30:58,165 --> 00:31:00,925 and then vetoed by Governor Polis, the, 581 00:31:00,925 --> 00:31:04,165 the no surprise billing act for EMS in that bill, 582 00:31:04,165 --> 00:31:08,605 they did put a cap of insurance would be required to pay up 583 00:31:08,605 --> 00:31:10,885 to 325% of the Medicare costs. 584 00:31:10,945 --> 00:31:13,005 And when I do those calculations, 585 00:31:13,075 --> 00:31:16,565 that would be a 56% increase in, in our fees to get 586 00:31:16,565 --> 00:31:19,805 to 325% of the medi Medicare costs. 587 00:31:24,205 --> 00:31:26,265 We making this decision tonight or is it 588 00:31:26,265 --> 00:31:28,665 No, No, we're just, we're just bringing it 589 00:31:28,665 --> 00:31:29,945 to the board for discussion. 590 00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:33,345 Okay. And then e probably in November we'll come 591 00:31:33,345 --> 00:31:34,745 to you with a decision. 592 00:31:36,405 --> 00:31:38,465 The MTS recovery at the bottom. 593 00:31:41,005 --> 00:31:43,225 You got your fingers crossed under the price. 594 00:31:44,335 --> 00:31:45,425 Yeah. I mean 'cause that, 'cause 595 00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:48,185 that's the other thing is is I believe Medicaid, the state 596 00:31:48,185 --> 00:31:50,185 of Colorado Medicaid, they decreased all payments 597 00:31:50,185 --> 00:31:52,345 by 2% this year. 598 00:31:52,485 --> 00:31:55,585 So, we'll we'll see another, again, 599 00:31:55,585 --> 00:31:57,105 that's about $10 a transport, 600 00:31:57,925 --> 00:31:59,825 but it all, it all adds up. Yeah. 601 00:32:00,645 --> 00:32:05,055 Is there any way that we can collect any more 602 00:32:06,045 --> 00:32:08,095 without suing the people that, 603 00:32:10,915 --> 00:32:14,015 Not, not that I'm aware of that, that I can think 604 00:32:14,015 --> 00:32:15,855 of without Yeah. 605 00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:17,855 Dragging 'em through the ringer and Yeah. 606 00:32:18,155 --> 00:32:20,495 The only one you can actually follow up on is that 22%. 607 00:32:20,495 --> 00:32:22,815 Right? Yeah. That's the, that's the only group of payers 608 00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:23,895 that you could follow up on and, 609 00:32:23,915 --> 00:32:25,495 and even like, you know, suggest that 610 00:32:25,685 --> 00:32:26,685 Yeah. 611 00:32:27,855 --> 00:32:29,215 Don't have insurance. You don't have 612 00:32:29,345 --> 00:32:31,855 Total of 24% between the self pays 613 00:32:31,855 --> 00:32:33,095 and the commercial insurances. Yeah. 614 00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:34,655 Green and orange. They're all, 615 00:32:34,655 --> 00:32:35,695 you're gonna get more out of 616 00:32:36,835 --> 00:32:38,495 and that's the number that keeps shrinking. 617 00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:41,285 That number of insurance 618 00:32:41,285 --> 00:32:43,165 and self pays are the one that keeps shrinking 619 00:32:43,165 --> 00:32:45,405 and the Medicare medicaid keeps increasing. 620 00:32:45,925 --> 00:32:47,525 A percentage of that keeps increasing. 621 00:32:47,955 --> 00:32:49,765 Yeah. And self pay, even if they pay half of 622 00:32:49,765 --> 00:32:51,605 what we charge them, that's more than Medicaid would pay. 623 00:32:51,955 --> 00:32:54,885 Yeah. It's not even worth going after anything. Yeah. 624 00:32:56,225 --> 00:32:58,125 But if I'm, so what about the, 625 00:32:58,225 --> 00:33:00,765 and annually if you were looking at that you'd, 626 00:33:00,785 --> 00:33:03,845 if we raised our rates annually to like with the insurance 627 00:33:04,355 --> 00:33:07,325 then do we get to a point where we're just like, 628 00:33:07,325 --> 00:33:09,365 those fees get to those astronomical levels? 629 00:33:09,465 --> 00:33:10,925 Or would it be so slow that it wouldn't, 630 00:33:11,685 --> 00:33:13,685 I think with where our numbers are at, so, 631 00:33:14,825 --> 00:33:18,645 and using that like 325% threshold. 632 00:33:18,845 --> 00:33:20,525 'cause I know there is legislation in other states 633 00:33:20,555 --> 00:33:24,245 that yeah, that mandate that at a 30% increase 634 00:33:24,245 --> 00:33:26,765 that would put us at 270% of Medicare. 635 00:33:28,145 --> 00:33:32,245 So in theory if Medicare's going up by a similar percentage, 636 00:33:32,465 --> 00:33:36,125 we would always should be around that 270%. 637 00:33:36,345 --> 00:33:38,045 So we just always be following them at this point. 638 00:33:38,145 --> 00:33:39,485 If we just do the 30 right now 639 00:33:39,825 --> 00:33:40,825 It Yeah. 640 00:33:40,825 --> 00:33:43,925 At that, at that point I do think that the, you know, the, 641 00:33:43,945 --> 00:33:47,405 the annual inflation adjustment, that that doesn't mean 642 00:33:47,405 --> 00:33:49,365 that we still wouldn't look at it every, every few years 643 00:33:49,365 --> 00:33:52,565 and make sure that hey our, do it more 644 00:33:52,565 --> 00:33:54,925 of a deep dive analysis like this to say, Hey is this, 645 00:33:55,665 --> 00:33:58,045 is this still tracking or do we need to look at another bump 646 00:33:58,185 --> 00:34:00,645 or, or anything like that. 647 00:34:00,945 --> 00:34:03,845 Lot of times it's a lot easier to go each year 648 00:34:04,745 --> 00:34:06,005 you still try to do a major bump 649 00:34:06,205 --> 00:34:08,085 'cause you're back got behind you. 650 00:34:08,345 --> 00:34:10,285 The people aren't gonna pay, aren't gonna pay their, 651 00:34:10,855 --> 00:34:13,405 don't increase anything or increase it by 50%, 652 00:34:13,505 --> 00:34:14,885 but just, it's not gonna happen. 653 00:34:15,145 --> 00:34:18,085 Yep. I don't think it's an unreasonable proposal though 654 00:34:18,225 --> 00:34:21,405 to propose that percentage increase annually and then try 655 00:34:21,405 --> 00:34:23,365 and like we've done to do maybe a, 656 00:34:23,565 --> 00:34:25,725 a bigger percentage bump if we're that far behind. 657 00:34:25,755 --> 00:34:27,605 Yeah. Or if legislation's allowing for that 658 00:34:27,605 --> 00:34:30,285 to extra recoup than we can up there. 659 00:34:30,385 --> 00:34:31,385 But Yeah. 660 00:34:33,495 --> 00:34:35,805 Under the patient and self pay, 661 00:34:35,985 --> 00:34:38,645 do we ever have anybody that does not? 662 00:34:38,865 --> 00:34:43,805 Do we have like a collection or where do we put that? 663 00:34:44,345 --> 00:34:47,525 Who pays in? Do we just write that off? Yep. 664 00:34:47,625 --> 00:34:50,765 So so ultimately that eventually gets written off. 665 00:34:52,205 --> 00:34:53,365 Taxpayers basically pay for it. 666 00:34:53,515 --> 00:34:55,285 Yeah. By time you go 667 00:34:55,285 --> 00:34:56,885 after 'em for collections you spent more money 668 00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:58,085 trying to collect the money. 669 00:34:58,275 --> 00:35:00,005 It's negative at the end anyway. 670 00:35:01,555 --> 00:35:06,045 Yeah, that one question for Dino that John 671 00:35:06,045 --> 00:35:08,485 and I were talking about, would we, 672 00:35:09,025 --> 00:35:11,005 for a resolution in the future, do you know, 673 00:35:11,335 --> 00:35:15,205 would we be able to put that ambulance inflation factor into 674 00:35:15,205 --> 00:35:16,445 that fee schedule built in? 675 00:35:16,445 --> 00:35:18,245 Or is that something we'd have to go to the board to 676 00:35:18,985 --> 00:35:20,005 on an annual basis 677 00:35:20,015 --> 00:35:22,725 after they release that ambulance inflation factor? 678 00:35:27,115 --> 00:35:29,375 You know, I, in theory you could put 679 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:30,535 an escalator in there. 680 00:35:32,175 --> 00:35:36,815 I think it's kind of more a question of transparency 681 00:35:37,665 --> 00:35:39,925 to the community on what you're doing. 682 00:35:40,585 --> 00:35:42,925 If you're comfortable with one resolution 683 00:35:42,955 --> 00:35:44,565 that puts an escalator in there, 684 00:35:44,595 --> 00:35:46,805 then legally I think you could do it. 685 00:35:48,615 --> 00:35:51,145 Okay. Or if we wanted to worry about transparency, 686 00:35:51,175 --> 00:35:54,225 just like tag that agenda where we would do that 687 00:35:54,225 --> 00:35:55,505 after those numbers come out. 688 00:35:55,505 --> 00:35:58,185 Because when, when did those come out? Second quarter. 689 00:35:58,695 --> 00:36:00,025 Yeah. Yeah. 690 00:36:00,145 --> 00:36:01,785 'cause I think it's the start of their fiscal year when 691 00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:02,825 they update it all, so, 692 00:36:03,925 --> 00:36:06,185 So it might be our third quarter then. 693 00:36:06,185 --> 00:36:07,865 Yeah. By that time. 694 00:36:07,885 --> 00:36:09,865 But we could still just put a note on there just as a, 695 00:36:10,475 --> 00:36:11,705 these rates changed here 696 00:36:11,805 --> 00:36:13,985 and prior resolution, now we're at this level, whatever. 697 00:36:14,105 --> 00:36:15,425 Just a brief statement would be helpful 698 00:36:15,525 --> 00:36:17,385 for transparency like Dino mentioned for 699 00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:18,385 Sure. 700 00:36:18,405 --> 00:36:20,505 If, if we're gonna do an escalator clause, 701 00:36:20,695 --> 00:36:23,665 then we should tie it, what I typically tie it 702 00:36:23,665 --> 00:36:28,265 to is the Denver, Aurora, Lakewood CPI that's issued 703 00:36:28,265 --> 00:36:30,905 by the US Labor statistics. 704 00:36:31,975 --> 00:36:35,025 What labor statistics, what division? 705 00:36:36,285 --> 00:36:40,025 That's kind of the local CPI index. 706 00:36:40,045 --> 00:36:41,825 That's typically all that sort. 707 00:36:43,085 --> 00:36:44,545 You'll wanna tie it to something 708 00:36:44,605 --> 00:36:46,025 so you have a basis for the, 709 00:36:47,095 --> 00:36:50,665 Well do you know what the Medicare ambulance inflation 710 00:36:50,665 --> 00:36:52,025 factor work that's official? 711 00:36:52,025 --> 00:36:55,025 Like, or is that just a hypothetical number? 712 00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:00,815 You know, I'm not familiar with Medicare's adjustments 713 00:37:00,915 --> 00:37:03,855 so I can't, can't say whether that's a good one to look to, 714 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:06,695 but it, it may very well work as well. 715 00:37:07,085 --> 00:37:09,135 Yeah, maybe present both. Yeah. 716 00:37:09,275 --> 00:37:10,335 If that one is accurate, 717 00:37:10,335 --> 00:37:11,695 then at least we'll be keeping in touch. 718 00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:13,375 I don't, I don't, I mean the take 719 00:37:13,375 --> 00:37:14,895 Off so I can try to make It to price. 720 00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:19,575 It might be a little lower CPI for Colorado. Yeah. To them. 721 00:37:22,855 --> 00:37:24,175 I don't know how often they do it, 722 00:37:24,175 --> 00:37:28,135 whether it's an annual adjuster, do you know? 723 00:37:28,365 --> 00:37:31,495 Yeah. It's an annual adjustment that they do on that 724 00:37:31,715 --> 00:37:32,715 For Medicare. 725 00:37:32,715 --> 00:37:35,415 Yeah. Bye guys. 726 00:37:35,635 --> 00:37:39,095 Now if that's something that's available you're comfortable 727 00:37:39,095 --> 00:37:40,935 with, yeah. 728 00:37:41,075 --> 00:37:42,415 If you could put it in the resolution, 729 00:37:43,715 --> 00:37:46,175 you may wanna also put it on your fee schedule so 730 00:37:46,175 --> 00:37:47,255 that it's obvious. 731 00:37:48,085 --> 00:37:49,935 Okay. People there are looking at it 732 00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:52,495 that this is an annual adjustment that's gonna occur. 733 00:37:54,725 --> 00:37:57,695 Perfect. Can't believe 734 00:37:57,695 --> 00:37:59,415 that was three years ago when we talked about this the first 735 00:37:59,415 --> 00:38:00,735 time before technically. 736 00:38:00,755 --> 00:38:04,655 And that we did talk about that 20% and it's, it's crazy. 737 00:38:05,005 --> 00:38:06,375 Doesn't seem like that long ago 738 00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:08,015 that we just made the increase 739 00:38:08,595 --> 00:38:09,895 and here we are bringing it back. 740 00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:12,095 I know when he said 22 and it was like 22. 741 00:38:12,175 --> 00:38:13,455 I thought we just did that, but 742 00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:15,895 Yeah, We did not just do that. 743 00:38:15,995 --> 00:38:19,735 Yep. Okay. Any other questions regarding this issue? 744 00:38:21,725 --> 00:38:26,095 Alright, we go on to item C under new business review 745 00:38:26,095 --> 00:38:28,855 of various vendors for financial, for financial software. 746 00:38:28,895 --> 00:38:30,015 I imagine that's you John, huh? 747 00:38:30,635 --> 00:38:32,575 We will, I'll, I'll start us off here. 748 00:38:32,715 --> 00:38:36,245 So John's been working hard on this along 749 00:38:36,245 --> 00:38:37,485 with PJ in the background. 750 00:38:37,745 --> 00:38:39,245 As we look at this, I know we, 751 00:38:39,335 --> 00:38:40,965 we've mentioned it in our last board report, 752 00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:43,125 but John's been doing the vast majority 753 00:38:43,265 --> 00:38:45,645 of looking at these softwares and, and he 754 00:38:45,645 --> 00:38:47,245 and PJ have been having conversations. 755 00:38:47,335 --> 00:38:49,405 Again, we're not bringing this to the board 756 00:38:49,405 --> 00:38:52,685 of directors asking for any decision tonight. 757 00:38:52,995 --> 00:38:54,445 It's just something to review 758 00:38:54,745 --> 00:38:56,325 and to be able to ask questions 759 00:38:56,705 --> 00:38:58,765 and to see if there's anything else you would like 760 00:38:58,765 --> 00:39:00,325 to see out of what we're presenting. 761 00:39:01,265 --> 00:39:02,265 So John, 762 00:39:03,105 --> 00:39:05,245 So what we're doing is we're looking at 763 00:39:06,035 --> 00:39:07,205 replacing QuickBooks. 764 00:39:07,205 --> 00:39:11,445 We've been using QuickBooks since, since Rifle Fire 765 00:39:11,505 --> 00:39:14,885 and Burning Mountains Fire Times 20 years. 766 00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:19,085 QuickBooks is a great program for small business, 767 00:39:20,585 --> 00:39:23,245 one or two people needing access to it and everything. 768 00:39:24,025 --> 00:39:26,125 As we've grown, it's just gotten more 769 00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:29,485 and more cumbersome to deal with, to deal 770 00:39:29,485 --> 00:39:30,925 with different pieces of it. 771 00:39:33,815 --> 00:39:36,755 So we're looking at, looking at what the possibilities are 772 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:40,915 for us to replace that and streamline some of our processes. 773 00:39:41,135 --> 00:39:44,155 We figure we probably wait, we probably, I won't say waste, 774 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,995 but we probably spend between 500 775 00:39:47,135 --> 00:39:50,475 and 800 hours a year doing budgeting 776 00:39:51,565 --> 00:39:52,675 throughout the hallway 777 00:39:52,855 --> 00:39:55,915 and everything with Division Chiefs putting in their 778 00:39:55,915 --> 00:39:57,635 numbers, PJ 779 00:39:57,855 --> 00:40:01,475 and Chief Sackett putting in their numbers and everything. 780 00:40:01,815 --> 00:40:05,115 And it, during that period of time every month as our, 781 00:40:06,175 --> 00:40:09,555 as our financials change, that has to be downloaded 782 00:40:10,385 --> 00:40:12,235 into the spreadsheets and brought up 783 00:40:12,375 --> 00:40:15,395 and everything changes all the time there 784 00:40:16,605 --> 00:40:19,315 doing multiple budget scenarios. 785 00:40:19,545 --> 00:40:24,275 Each one of 'em has to be carefully moved forward. 786 00:40:25,455 --> 00:40:28,475 So we started looking this year at some different options 787 00:40:28,815 --> 00:40:30,955 for software. 788 00:40:31,505 --> 00:40:33,395 OpenGov was the first one we looked at. 789 00:40:37,305 --> 00:40:39,955 They, they've got a, their, 790 00:40:39,965 --> 00:40:42,235 their government software that that's what they do. 791 00:40:43,115 --> 00:40:45,795 SAP does government as well as Tyler. 792 00:40:47,765 --> 00:40:50,515 Tyler Technologies. They all do government software. 793 00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:51,635 That's their forte. 794 00:40:52,615 --> 00:40:55,115 As p as we put in here, one of the problems 795 00:40:55,115 --> 00:40:58,555 with QuickBooks is it's designed as a generic thing. 796 00:40:59,295 --> 00:41:01,835 So some of that stuff, PJ has 797 00:41:01,835 --> 00:41:03,955 to go in every month on the board reports 798 00:41:04,495 --> 00:41:06,155 and change headings and everything 799 00:41:06,155 --> 00:41:10,235 because it's not really profit and loss for government. 800 00:41:10,415 --> 00:41:12,715 We don't, we operate at a loss. 801 00:41:13,455 --> 00:41:15,515 We, we get tax dollars to cover that. 802 00:41:15,655 --> 00:41:17,675 So there's a lot of little things there that, 803 00:41:17,785 --> 00:41:19,275 that don't, don't happen. 804 00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:22,395 So right now, currently we're paying about 805 00:41:23,725 --> 00:41:28,435 7,000 a year for QuickBooks for us to expand so 806 00:41:28,435 --> 00:41:31,835 that everyone in the hallway could have access to view that 807 00:41:31,835 --> 00:41:34,685 and have real time access would be about another 808 00:41:34,685 --> 00:41:36,005 $9,000 a year. 809 00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:39,325 Bringing us up to about 15,000, 16,000 a year 810 00:41:40,025 --> 00:41:41,045 for that access. 811 00:41:42,675 --> 00:41:46,925 OpenGov came in with a 40,000 a year for their software 812 00:41:47,465 --> 00:41:50,285 and a $70,000 implementation fee. 813 00:41:50,705 --> 00:41:52,325 Why are they so much higher than everybody else? 814 00:41:53,155 --> 00:41:54,965 Well, that, that's actually lower. 815 00:41:55,505 --> 00:41:58,085 Oh, is it It it was significantly higher 816 00:41:58,085 --> 00:41:59,085 Than time. 817 00:41:59,085 --> 00:42:02,245 It was, the implementation fee was 118,000. Yeah. 818 00:42:02,745 --> 00:42:05,565 So Yeah, we almost stopped the process at that point. 819 00:42:05,675 --> 00:42:10,085 Yeah. But we continued on with SAP, 820 00:42:10,145 --> 00:42:11,845 we looked at their, their stuff. 821 00:42:12,195 --> 00:42:16,085 They've got a $28,000 implementation fee 822 00:42:16,185 --> 00:42:18,005 and 26,000 per year. 823 00:42:18,875 --> 00:42:21,045 That does not include an HR module. 824 00:42:21,185 --> 00:42:22,965 And that's one of the things we'll never have in 825 00:42:23,505 --> 00:42:26,245 in QuickBooks is we'll never have an HR module there. 826 00:42:28,265 --> 00:42:30,805 And then Tyler Technologies, we looked at theirs, 827 00:42:31,025 --> 00:42:33,005 theirs is 19,000 a year 828 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:36,405 and it includes an HR module. 829 00:42:36,625 --> 00:42:40,445 So we can, we can track the person from the time they submit 830 00:42:40,445 --> 00:42:43,685 their application all the way through the process 831 00:42:43,815 --> 00:42:45,925 until they retire or leave the 832 00:42:45,925 --> 00:42:47,965 organization. So we can track 833 00:42:47,965 --> 00:42:49,685 Annually that 69,000. 834 00:42:50,325 --> 00:42:51,685 Hmm. That 6,900 835 00:42:52,315 --> 00:42:55,965 That, and that piece is a $6,900 annually. Annually. 836 00:42:56,035 --> 00:42:57,045 Like when with whatever 837 00:42:57,155 --> 00:42:58,155 Yeah. 838 00:42:58,155 --> 00:43:00,805 Which is included in that 19, that's included in 839 00:43:00,805 --> 00:43:02,125 that $19,000. 840 00:43:05,345 --> 00:43:07,885 So I, I just separated that out 841 00:43:07,885 --> 00:43:09,885 because like I said, SAP did not have 842 00:43:09,885 --> 00:43:11,045 that in there at the time. 843 00:43:12,395 --> 00:43:15,485 Tyler's implementation fee is twice out of SAPs. 844 00:43:16,635 --> 00:43:18,765 What Are the implementation fees? Like? 845 00:43:18,765 --> 00:43:20,285 What are those, what does that include? 846 00:43:20,465 --> 00:43:21,885 Is it just training for all setting 847 00:43:21,885 --> 00:43:25,085 Users, setting, setting up the, the cloud-based server, 848 00:43:26,455 --> 00:43:30,645 populating it, and then doing training. So 849 00:43:31,215 --> 00:43:33,445 Populating all of our account numbers Yeah. 850 00:43:33,505 --> 00:43:37,245 And titles and pulling all of that stuff. Yeah. 851 00:43:39,285 --> 00:43:43,185 So I know that 852 00:43:43,995 --> 00:43:47,985 Tyler has figured into that 256 hours of training, 853 00:43:48,995 --> 00:43:52,145 which I think is a little, a little heavy 854 00:43:52,665 --> 00:43:55,625 considering, considering what we've gotten. 855 00:43:55,845 --> 00:43:57,385 And that's gonna be one of the things we're gonna talk 856 00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:58,665 and discuss with them yet. 857 00:43:58,685 --> 00:44:01,105 But these are, this is the first round of numbers 858 00:44:01,265 --> 00:44:03,305 that we've gotten from the vendors. 859 00:44:07,055 --> 00:44:10,225 Each of the, each of the proposed software packages has a, 860 00:44:10,565 --> 00:44:13,985 has an annual cost increase built into the contract of 861 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:15,465 between three and 6%. 862 00:44:16,475 --> 00:44:18,795 I think OpenGov was 3% 863 00:44:19,775 --> 00:44:24,755 and SAP was, i, I can't remember exactly, 864 00:44:24,895 --> 00:44:27,315 but SAP was like 6%. 865 00:44:27,445 --> 00:44:30,475 Tyler was 5% or, or vice versa there. 866 00:44:30,815 --> 00:44:32,085 So they've each got an annual 867 00:44:33,165 --> 00:44:34,605 increase in the cost of the software. 868 00:44:38,605 --> 00:44:43,545 So all we're looking for from, from the board tonight is 869 00:44:45,005 --> 00:44:46,385 any questions you guys have? 870 00:44:46,745 --> 00:44:50,105 Anything you wanna see us bring back? Next meeting? 871 00:44:50,895 --> 00:44:53,585 Next meeting. We're gonna be getting close to, close 872 00:44:53,585 --> 00:44:57,785 to needing to sign a contract with one of these to, just so 873 00:44:57,785 --> 00:45:00,785 that we've got it all online and everything for January 1st. 874 00:45:00,925 --> 00:45:04,225 We won't be able to do any of the budget process this year 875 00:45:04,225 --> 00:45:05,465 with this software just 876 00:45:05,465 --> 00:45:07,265 because we, it won't be set up, 877 00:45:07,325 --> 00:45:09,585 we won't have a year's worth of data in it. 878 00:45:10,245 --> 00:45:13,185 But then we start January 1st, next year, 879 00:45:16,495 --> 00:45:18,915 we we're able to then have 880 00:45:18,915 --> 00:45:22,075 that information in there into the budgeting part 881 00:45:22,075 --> 00:45:26,115 of their package by September and going forth. Which one, 882 00:45:26,115 --> 00:45:28,475 Which one of you and PJ have been most impressed with 883 00:45:28,535 --> 00:45:32,705 so far as far as you able to work with the system? 884 00:45:33,045 --> 00:45:36,505 We, we've got some questions on both SAP and Tyler. 885 00:45:37,265 --> 00:45:40,385 I think right now we've put OpenGov on the back burner. 886 00:45:41,635 --> 00:45:43,785 Think so, just, 887 00:45:45,415 --> 00:45:47,345 just kind of that sticker shock. 888 00:45:49,445 --> 00:45:52,745 But we're, we're still working on, we've, we've got a list 889 00:45:52,765 --> 00:45:55,265 of some things that we definitely need to see. 890 00:45:55,915 --> 00:45:56,945 We've kinda had a little bit 891 00:45:56,945 --> 00:45:59,705 of a problem getting time together to see this stuff, 892 00:45:59,805 --> 00:46:03,705 but either one of 'em I think is gonna do the, 893 00:46:03,805 --> 00:46:05,025 do the job for us 894 00:46:06,335 --> 00:46:07,335 When it comes time. 895 00:46:07,335 --> 00:46:08,825 I think if, you know, if you guys would give us a 896 00:46:08,825 --> 00:46:11,225 recommendation, who do you feel would be the best option? 897 00:46:11,965 --> 00:46:13,345 Oh, we'll, we'll definitely give you 898 00:46:13,345 --> 00:46:14,905 what we feel is our best option, 899 00:46:14,965 --> 00:46:16,745 but we're just wanting to, wanting 900 00:46:16,745 --> 00:46:19,625 to know if there's anything that you guys need from us if 901 00:46:22,255 --> 00:46:24,265 This is different than the budgeting software 902 00:46:24,405 --> 00:46:25,705 or program that you guys were talking 903 00:46:25,705 --> 00:46:27,145 about previously? Or is this the same? 904 00:46:27,365 --> 00:46:28,785 No, this is, this is what we're talking about. 905 00:46:28,785 --> 00:46:32,025 This has it built, this has the budgeting software built in 906 00:46:32,575 --> 00:46:35,465 QuickBook, QuickBooks has budgeting software built in. 907 00:46:35,725 --> 00:46:39,665 But again, it's designed for a business that 908 00:46:42,915 --> 00:46:46,425 Isn't, isn't trying to project medical billing costs 909 00:46:46,645 --> 00:46:48,065 or medical billing income. 910 00:46:48,335 --> 00:46:50,065 Yeah. Taxes and everything else. 911 00:46:50,245 --> 00:46:53,385 It, it's more of a, that structured approach. 912 00:46:53,385 --> 00:46:56,065 Whereas these take into account their, 913 00:46:56,485 --> 00:47:00,185 and we can, we can work with each individual section of it. 914 00:47:00,375 --> 00:47:02,945 Yeah. Plus the other thing we can do with this is we can, 915 00:47:04,205 --> 00:47:06,025 we can track different programs. 916 00:47:06,125 --> 00:47:09,585 So like if we buy software, it all goes under IT 917 00:47:10,145 --> 00:47:11,185 software budget this year. 918 00:47:11,375 --> 00:47:14,745 Yeah. In the future with, with a more robust system, 919 00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:17,625 we can say, okay, well we've got this software for 920 00:47:18,435 --> 00:47:20,985 fleet maintenance, we've got this software for training, 921 00:47:21,075 --> 00:47:22,985 we've got this software for operations 922 00:47:23,845 --> 00:47:25,145 and we can break that out 923 00:47:25,145 --> 00:47:26,825 and we can look at those costs 924 00:47:26,925 --> 00:47:28,905 of each program a little better as well. 925 00:47:32,095 --> 00:47:34,365 Would it be possible to kind of just do some math 926 00:47:34,465 --> 00:47:37,045 and for like, it may not be completely accurate, 927 00:47:37,045 --> 00:47:39,045 but you know, QuickBooks is maybe not the best 928 00:47:39,145 --> 00:47:40,485 for EMS and fire. 929 00:47:40,675 --> 00:47:43,005 That makes sense. But like how much time on task it's, 930 00:47:43,265 --> 00:47:48,085 you know, eating up so you know, the smaller, you know, 931 00:47:48,085 --> 00:47:49,485 $15,000 cost. 932 00:47:49,585 --> 00:47:52,125 But maybe if it's, you know, people are adding, you know, 933 00:47:52,145 --> 00:47:55,325 200 additional hours or however many hours to make it work 934 00:47:55,425 --> 00:47:58,125 and get the information versus maybe, you know, once you 935 00:47:58,125 --> 00:47:59,605 and PJ get a chance to look at it closer 936 00:48:00,225 --> 00:48:02,605 if the other two options don't require all 937 00:48:02,605 --> 00:48:03,645 that extra time on task. 938 00:48:04,595 --> 00:48:06,205 Well that, and that's what, like we say, 939 00:48:06,205 --> 00:48:09,885 that's why we're looking at looking at this is to try to try 940 00:48:09,885 --> 00:48:13,245 to shrink down that, that budget process time. 941 00:48:13,435 --> 00:48:15,125 Yeah. Maybe if you can come up with just like an estimate 942 00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:18,625 of what you, you know, QuickBooks is costing us outside 943 00:48:18,625 --> 00:48:21,305 of just the software fees and all the user fees. 944 00:48:21,305 --> 00:48:24,125 Yeah, that would be interesting. 945 00:48:25,425 --> 00:48:27,365 And unless OpenGov just like does everything 946 00:48:28,325 --> 00:48:31,105 one button, I don't know if it's worth it, 947 00:48:31,975 --> 00:48:35,065 Like if there's a catch meow of what we would look for. 948 00:48:36,645 --> 00:48:37,705 Yes. But, so 949 00:48:37,705 --> 00:48:42,465 It's like pul, I just, dang it, I have a hard time with 950 00:48:42,465 --> 00:48:45,465 that when the annual costs 951 00:48:45,465 --> 00:48:48,385 of the software are doubled, what the other two are. 952 00:48:48,455 --> 00:48:50,825 Well if it's costing us $20,000 in extra, you know, 953 00:48:50,825 --> 00:48:52,785 person hours annually for QuickBooks. 954 00:48:52,785 --> 00:48:54,465 Yeah. At the end of the day it's a wash 955 00:48:56,075 --> 00:48:57,425 Tyler and SAP would be saving. 956 00:48:57,525 --> 00:49:01,865 So I agree. But yeah, that's it. 957 00:49:02,545 --> 00:49:03,945 Questions. Okay. I 958 00:49:03,945 --> 00:49:08,025 have any questions for John? 959 00:49:09,745 --> 00:49:13,065 I have a couple questions. Go for it. Paige. 960 00:49:15,565 --> 00:49:18,275 Right now how many users do we have 961 00:49:18,345 --> 00:49:20,635 that have access to QuickBooks? 962 00:49:21,535 --> 00:49:23,555 Two internally and two externally. 963 00:49:24,505 --> 00:49:28,845 So we've got PJ and Courtney have access to it internally 964 00:49:29,785 --> 00:49:34,645 and then Christina and at GBO Consulting 965 00:49:35,185 --> 00:49:39,245 and one of her employees have, have access to it 966 00:49:39,985 --> 00:49:41,245 to go through 967 00:49:41,545 --> 00:49:45,125 and do, do a mandatory G 968 00:49:46,465 --> 00:49:49,605 pardon me, mandatory GL entries help us with getting 969 00:49:49,605 --> 00:49:54,045 that data down from QuickBooks into those, into 970 00:49:54,045 --> 00:49:55,245 that spreadsheet and everything. 971 00:49:56,605 --> 00:50:01,025 So how many, how many total users under any 972 00:50:01,085 --> 00:50:03,185 of these three proposed new 973 00:50:04,265 --> 00:50:06,945 softwares would you be proposing would have access 974 00:50:07,005 --> 00:50:08,065 to our financials 975 00:50:09,115 --> 00:50:12,105 Under the ty, under Tyler or SAP? 976 00:50:15,315 --> 00:50:17,445 Full access to our financials would be, 977 00:50:17,655 --> 00:50:20,205 would be the two to four. 978 00:50:20,205 --> 00:50:23,405 Whether it again PJ 979 00:50:23,745 --> 00:50:28,245 and Courtney as well as we'll probably have that 980 00:50:29,215 --> 00:50:31,045 third person overlooking the stuff 981 00:50:31,045 --> 00:50:34,125 because of all the complexities of the EMS billing 982 00:50:34,185 --> 00:50:36,685 and everything for bringing those journal entries in 983 00:50:36,745 --> 00:50:38,885 for EMS billing and payroll. 984 00:50:40,125 --> 00:50:41,805 Those would have full access. 985 00:50:42,255 --> 00:50:46,725 There would probably be five to six that would have 986 00:50:47,315 --> 00:50:48,565 read only access. 987 00:50:49,705 --> 00:50:53,205 Myself, chief, chief Buggati where we can go in 988 00:50:53,465 --> 00:50:56,125 and say where am I at with my budget this year 989 00:50:56,345 --> 00:50:58,205 so far up to date. 990 00:50:59,145 --> 00:51:01,405 And then some of the other features 991 00:51:01,405 --> 00:51:03,965 that we haven't looked at yet 992 00:51:04,595 --> 00:51:07,125 that would give people access to this software. 993 00:51:09,075 --> 00:51:10,725 They've got a whole PO process. 994 00:51:11,945 --> 00:51:15,525 So we may have, we may have lieutenants set up 995 00:51:15,735 --> 00:51:19,205 where they can in input a PO that 996 00:51:19,835 --> 00:51:22,245 then has everything itemized out 997 00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:24,005 where it's gonna be charged to. 998 00:51:24,025 --> 00:51:26,725 If it's over their spending limit, it rolls up 999 00:51:26,725 --> 00:51:29,885 to their bc If it's over the BC spending limit, it rolls up 1000 00:51:29,885 --> 00:51:34,325 to division chief or fire chief for approval. 1001 00:51:35,505 --> 00:51:37,805 We don't know whether we're gonna use how much of 1002 00:51:37,805 --> 00:51:39,245 that we would use or not. 1003 00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:43,245 So I can't, I can't say how many 1004 00:51:43,245 --> 00:51:44,845 of those people we would have doing the 1005 00:51:46,315 --> 00:51:47,565 down at the PO level. 1006 00:51:47,585 --> 00:51:50,165 But like I say it, it'd still be limited to 1007 00:51:51,745 --> 00:51:54,205 the administrative staff, the higher, 1008 00:51:54,305 --> 00:51:57,925 higher administrative staff that would be. So 1009 00:51:58,305 --> 00:52:02,925 My, what my ask is, is I am, 1010 00:52:03,865 --> 00:52:06,805 I'm, I'm not trying to say 1011 00:52:06,805 --> 00:52:08,885 that a new software isn't needed, 1012 00:52:09,945 --> 00:52:14,845 but at first glance the numbers just don't make sense 1013 00:52:15,025 --> 00:52:17,445 for what I'm hearing we need this for. 1014 00:52:18,065 --> 00:52:20,965 And so I guess what my ask is is that 1015 00:52:22,465 --> 00:52:26,245 at the next board meeting, there's just a much more 1016 00:52:27,835 --> 00:52:31,405 substantiated presentation 1017 00:52:31,675 --> 00:52:36,085 because when I'm looking at this we're, 1018 00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:41,005 because it is my total annual, total annual with nine users 1019 00:52:41,145 --> 00:52:43,365 for QuickBooks at 15,800, 1020 00:52:43,995 --> 00:52:46,485 what I'm hearing is we don't actually have 1021 00:52:46,485 --> 00:52:47,725 nine users right now. 1022 00:52:48,785 --> 00:52:52,005 So, and I guess I'm just very concerned at 1023 00:52:52,145 --> 00:52:54,805 how many people would have access. 1024 00:52:57,605 --> 00:53:02,365 I would think that for this additional cost, especially 1025 00:53:02,395 --> 00:53:06,925 with ai, that once we build the the budget once 1026 00:53:07,625 --> 00:53:09,325 it would be incredibly easy. 1027 00:53:10,185 --> 00:53:12,005 You know, probably not on first try, 1028 00:53:12,505 --> 00:53:13,925 but it would be very easy 1029 00:53:14,105 --> 00:53:17,085 to run different scenarios once it's built out on the 1030 00:53:17,085 --> 00:53:18,325 first try. 1031 00:53:18,545 --> 00:53:20,565 So I'm not saying no, 1032 00:53:20,625 --> 00:53:23,285 and I'm certainly not trying to say that I understand 1033 00:53:24,155 --> 00:53:28,925 your process, but just if this was private sector, 1034 00:53:29,305 --> 00:53:30,525 the vote would be a no. 1035 00:53:31,385 --> 00:53:35,445 It, it just, I wouldn't have enough information right now 1036 00:53:35,585 --> 00:53:37,045 to say that this makes sense. 1037 00:53:38,025 --> 00:53:41,965 So my ask would be that at the next board meeting 1038 00:53:42,435 --> 00:53:45,965 that there's just a, a better way to quantify 1039 00:53:46,425 --> 00:53:50,685 as I believe Addie said, just what, what the man hours are 1040 00:53:50,685 --> 00:53:54,005 that we're actually trying to achieve it. 1041 00:53:54,345 --> 00:53:57,085 It just, it seems like we've got some missing pieces there. 1042 00:53:57,915 --> 00:53:59,605 Yeah. And, and and I understand that 1043 00:53:59,665 --> 00:54:02,845 and that that's why we wanted to present this right now to, 1044 00:54:03,425 --> 00:54:05,685 to get people thinking about it so that we knew 1045 00:54:05,685 --> 00:54:06,965 what, where we needed to go. 1046 00:54:06,965 --> 00:54:09,725 And that was one of the things we were, we've been waiting 1047 00:54:09,785 --> 00:54:12,885 to see a budget presentation on these, these pieces 1048 00:54:12,985 --> 00:54:17,485 of software to make sure that we're in that, oh hey, 1049 00:54:17,485 --> 00:54:21,645 it's not gonna be five to 800 hours, it's gonna be two 1050 00:54:21,645 --> 00:54:24,045 to 300 hours a year or 1051 00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:25,525 Yeah, Yeah. 1052 00:54:27,275 --> 00:54:29,335 Yep. No, that, that makes total sense. 1053 00:54:30,715 --> 00:54:33,815 And I could totally appreciate efficiencies 1054 00:54:33,915 --> 00:54:36,135 and I could totally appreciate being able to track 1055 00:54:36,775 --> 00:54:38,215 throughout the budget year. 1056 00:54:39,155 --> 00:54:41,495 And so, you know, just if we could have 1057 00:54:41,495 --> 00:54:44,095 that quantified maybe a little bit better, I, I think 1058 00:54:44,095 --> 00:54:46,415 that would help the board better understand 1059 00:54:47,515 --> 00:54:50,295 how we would be using this ask 1060 00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:53,215 to really help move the department forward. 1061 00:54:55,005 --> 00:54:57,305 Perfect. Okay. You can do that page, 1062 00:54:58,365 --> 00:54:59,865 Not a problem. Okay. 1063 00:55:00,435 --> 00:55:01,625 Thank, thank you so much. 1064 00:55:03,045 --> 00:55:06,105 Any questions for John? Thank you John. 1065 00:55:06,235 --> 00:55:08,945 We're gonna move on then we're gonna go on to 1066 00:55:13,005 --> 00:55:15,305 old business item seven on the agenda 1067 00:55:16,225 --> 00:55:18,025 station 61 progress update. 1068 00:55:18,415 --> 00:55:21,585 Yeah, so it's, it's ongoing 1069 00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:23,985 with Station 61 since our last board meeting, 1070 00:55:24,045 --> 00:55:26,545 the full permitting process has been completed. 1071 00:55:26,925 --> 00:55:29,945 And so we're, we're happy that that, that that happened 1072 00:55:31,135 --> 00:55:32,945 currently since the last board meeting, 1073 00:55:33,725 --> 00:55:35,745 the full building slat has success. 1074 00:55:35,745 --> 00:55:37,305 We've been placed in 1075 00:55:38,405 --> 00:55:40,945 and completing all the major concrete work. 1076 00:55:41,605 --> 00:55:46,425 And then the next part of the process upcoming will be 1077 00:55:48,425 --> 00:55:51,185 starting that still erection process 1078 00:55:51,725 --> 00:55:54,145 be happening over the month of September 1079 00:55:54,285 --> 00:55:56,345 and October for that. 1080 00:55:56,585 --> 00:55:58,105 I think you said you were there 1081 00:55:58,365 --> 00:56:00,465 and some of the block work is already there. 1082 00:56:00,465 --> 00:56:03,465 Some blocks for the, for the hose are in the, 1083 00:56:03,965 --> 00:56:05,065 in the elevator. 1084 00:56:05,445 --> 00:56:09,185 Are are there. So I haven't driven by in, in, 1085 00:56:09,205 --> 00:56:12,505 in over a week so haven't really seen it 1086 00:56:12,525 --> 00:56:14,825 but if you look at the pictures John, you wanna scroll down 1087 00:56:15,685 --> 00:56:20,065 and at this point the from from Wimber the project is 1088 00:56:20,065 --> 00:56:24,325 healthy in the stage and budget is is on point for 1089 00:56:24,325 --> 00:56:25,725 where we're supposed to be at. 1090 00:56:26,665 --> 00:56:28,525 But this is part of that process of 1091 00:56:28,525 --> 00:56:30,725 that slab pouring last month. 1092 00:56:30,725 --> 00:56:32,685 There wasn't, there was just the foundation 1093 00:56:32,745 --> 00:56:35,085 and the stem walls that were were poured in there. 1094 00:56:35,385 --> 00:56:37,685 And if you keep going down John, keep scrolling down 1095 00:56:37,685 --> 00:56:39,205 through there you see all the 1096 00:56:39,205 --> 00:56:40,405 different work that has happened. 1097 00:56:40,915 --> 00:56:42,245 This actually happened 1098 00:56:42,475 --> 00:56:45,605 that slab war happened last week is when that happened. 1099 00:56:46,705 --> 00:56:50,765 So it's, I guess starting from my standpoint, it looks like 1100 00:56:51,415 --> 00:56:53,685 we're making some very good progress. 1101 00:56:55,265 --> 00:56:56,885 Do we know how, where we are on timeline? 1102 00:56:57,965 --> 00:57:00,605 Yeah. So as of well currently no 1103 00:57:00,925 --> 00:57:03,645 because I wasn't at the last OAC OAC meeting 1104 00:57:04,065 --> 00:57:05,845 but I know we were behind by, 1105 00:57:06,675 --> 00:57:09,645 with the inspection schedule we were behind 1106 00:57:09,665 --> 00:57:13,485 by about 12 days at the last, at the last meeting. 1107 00:57:13,625 --> 00:57:17,365 We have since had some, some conversations on what 1108 00:57:17,365 --> 00:57:19,045 that looks like to get that back up 1109 00:57:19,305 --> 00:57:21,965 and I think we're, we're headed in the right direction. 1110 00:57:22,585 --> 00:57:23,965 Are you getting any more progress outta 1111 00:57:24,595 --> 00:57:25,965 inspections or is that still 1112 00:57:26,145 --> 00:57:28,845 That's those are those conversations that are ongoing 1113 00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:31,005 as we As we talk. As we speak, yeah. 1114 00:57:31,005 --> 00:57:32,525 Yeah. That's interesting 'cause that's something I've 1115 00:57:32,525 --> 00:57:35,485 heard through the grapevine outside of any of us 1116 00:57:35,595 --> 00:57:39,525 that there's been quite a few delays like up to three weeks, 1117 00:57:39,525 --> 00:57:41,605 which I guess 12 working days could be three 1118 00:57:41,605 --> 00:57:43,725 weeks because of that. Yes. That's 1119 00:57:43,725 --> 00:57:44,725 Been happening for years too. 1120 00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,965 Well yes I know but it's just very frustrating. 1121 00:57:47,425 --> 00:57:50,285 It is Very frustrating. 1122 00:57:50,445 --> 00:57:51,725 I just can't believe they didn't invite us 1123 00:57:51,725 --> 00:57:53,005 to sign our names in the concrete 1124 00:57:54,905 --> 00:57:57,805 Or wise Feel confident 1125 00:57:57,805 --> 00:57:59,245 that we're on the right road Yes. 1126 00:57:59,305 --> 00:58:00,645 To get that corrected. Yep. 1127 00:58:01,065 --> 00:58:03,925 That's good. Okay, we're gonna move on then. 1128 00:58:05,105 --> 00:58:08,565 Go on Item eight agenda, the quarterly grant tracker update. 1129 00:58:09,905 --> 00:58:14,005 So we do, that's quarterly so that next will be November. 1130 00:58:14,795 --> 00:58:16,605 Okay. That's not in this board meeting. Alright, 1131 00:58:16,875 --> 00:58:17,875 That asks court. 1132 00:58:18,235 --> 00:58:19,965 Okay, makes sense. 1133 00:58:20,435 --> 00:58:22,365 Then we'll move on to item nine division reports. 1134 00:58:22,385 --> 00:58:26,165 So we'll stop, stop start with ENS and special services. 1135 00:58:26,765 --> 00:58:27,365 I don't see Chief 1136 00:58:27,365 --> 00:58:28,805 Buggati here. Does somebody else like to give that? 1137 00:58:28,995 --> 00:58:30,925 Yeah, he is deployed at this point. 1138 00:58:32,465 --> 00:58:34,445 You can see there in his report. 1139 00:58:34,675 --> 00:58:37,765 There's been a lot going on across the board. 1140 00:58:38,045 --> 00:58:40,005 You can see how much we bill for Wildland 1141 00:58:41,515 --> 00:58:44,725 Roberts was qualified as a task force leader 1142 00:58:44,745 --> 00:58:46,725 and can supervise multiple resources, 1143 00:58:47,445 --> 00:58:49,005 multiple resource types on fires. 1144 00:58:49,465 --> 00:58:53,285 Hunter Finger qualified it as an engine boss supervised two 1145 00:58:53,285 --> 00:58:54,765 to six personnel on wildlife fire 1146 00:58:54,765 --> 00:58:57,165 and be qualified as a crew boss. 1147 00:58:57,555 --> 00:59:00,485 Able to supervise five to 25 personnel on fire. 1148 00:59:00,585 --> 00:59:03,085 So I'm glad to see that all 1149 00:59:03,085 --> 00:59:04,925 of them have been busy and have been deployed. 1150 00:59:05,385 --> 00:59:08,005 The WFM actually just got back from the, 1151 00:59:08,145 --> 00:59:09,965 the Gold Mountain fire in Colorado 1152 00:59:10,545 --> 00:59:13,605 and then you can see that fleet has been very busy as well. 1153 00:59:13,675 --> 00:59:15,405 They've actually done a really good job 1154 00:59:15,425 --> 00:59:17,965 of getting some apparatus back in service that we've had 1155 00:59:17,985 --> 00:59:21,365 to go down and get it back in service in a timely manner. 1156 00:59:21,905 --> 00:59:26,365 And then again Eric, he is starting his fall schedule 1157 00:59:26,585 --> 00:59:31,485 for everything that he does across all of our stations. 1158 00:59:31,945 --> 00:59:33,445 So he's been very busy as well. 1159 00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:37,445 Any question for Chief Gotti's report? 1160 00:59:39,915 --> 00:59:44,765 Eric, again, we'll go on. Go on to operations. EMS Chief. 1161 00:59:45,955 --> 00:59:48,205 Yeah, thank you. I mean, crews continue 1162 00:59:48,205 --> 00:59:49,765 to knock it out out of the park as we, 1163 00:59:49,785 --> 00:59:51,725 we don't expect anything less of them anymore. 1164 00:59:52,745 --> 00:59:55,405 We continue to to see the call volumes. 1165 00:59:55,405 --> 00:59:56,405 Luckily we did have a little bit 1166 00:59:56,405 --> 00:59:58,125 of rain over the last few weeks so 1167 00:59:58,125 --> 01:00:00,525 that has helped a little bit with that. 1168 01:00:00,525 --> 01:00:02,845 It doesn't mean that we don't still see some of those fires 1169 01:00:02,865 --> 01:00:04,885 or, and stuff like that, 1170 01:00:04,905 --> 01:00:07,645 but they, they continue to show the resolve 1171 01:00:07,665 --> 01:00:09,685 and perform exceptionally well, making sure 1172 01:00:09,685 --> 01:00:11,165 that they're taking care of our community for us. 1173 01:00:11,265 --> 01:00:13,005 So kudos to them for all 1174 01:00:13,005 --> 01:00:14,445 of their hard work and their dedication. 1175 01:00:14,945 --> 01:00:16,765 As chief talked about in his board report, 1176 01:00:17,405 --> 01:00:20,685 chief Carroll has resigned with CRFR, moving on to 1177 01:00:21,425 --> 01:00:23,845 the training division chief position with Aspen Fire 1178 01:00:23,945 --> 01:00:28,005 and her contributions over the past 10 years have helped 1179 01:00:28,005 --> 01:00:29,685 shape CRFR as we know it today. 1180 01:00:30,545 --> 01:00:33,685 And she's definitely less left in lasting impact on this 1181 01:00:33,685 --> 01:00:38,485 organization and we wish her the best of luck with that. 1182 01:00:39,545 --> 01:00:41,885 Acting battalion Chief Carlson engineer Lister, 1183 01:00:41,885 --> 01:00:45,605 they have been extremely involved in the academy planning 1184 01:00:45,705 --> 01:00:48,525 and instructional process from from the get go with that. 1185 01:00:48,525 --> 01:00:53,165 And so in an effort to decrease disruption from the 1186 01:00:53,165 --> 01:00:54,805 recruit academy, we're gonna pass those 1187 01:00:55,165 --> 01:00:56,245 responsibilities onto them. 1188 01:00:56,245 --> 01:01:00,525 They've graciously accepted, accepted that challenge 1189 01:01:01,105 --> 01:01:03,685 and we're thankful for those two individuals for stepping up 1190 01:01:03,745 --> 01:01:08,125 and can, can continue and, and produce some great recruits. 1191 01:01:08,445 --> 01:01:11,005 Those guys are just started their fourth week today. 1192 01:01:11,005 --> 01:01:14,685 They're out doing some SCBA confidence stuff out in the 1193 01:01:14,685 --> 01:01:17,725 modular behind you guys and they're knocking it outta the 1194 01:01:17,725 --> 01:01:19,005 park and I mean just the progression 1195 01:01:19,005 --> 01:01:20,685 that we're seeing even from a morning session 1196 01:01:20,705 --> 01:01:22,165 to an afternoon session is awesome. 1197 01:01:22,815 --> 01:01:27,405 Super excited to see those individuals get online here. 1198 01:01:28,185 --> 01:01:30,965 The end of November, November 20th will be the 1199 01:01:30,975 --> 01:01:32,725 graduation ceremony that afternoon. 1200 01:01:32,755 --> 01:01:35,485 It's a Friday, so we'll definitely put 1201 01:01:35,485 --> 01:01:37,005 that on your guys' radar for the next couple 1202 01:01:37,005 --> 01:01:38,005 of board meetings as well. 1203 01:01:38,065 --> 01:01:39,725 So love to see you guys there for 1204 01:01:39,725 --> 01:01:43,015 that. Any questions for me? 1205 01:01:43,295 --> 01:01:45,175 Thinking, I was thinking you were gonna give us a report 1206 01:01:45,195 --> 01:01:47,895 on hose hose nozzle technology tonight. 1207 01:01:49,085 --> 01:01:52,575 Well, that, that, that is Cody's baby. 1208 01:01:52,795 --> 01:01:56,455 He, he loves the hoses and appliances and all that stuff 1209 01:01:56,455 --> 01:01:59,775 and man he's, he, he knows that stuff inside and out. 1210 01:02:00,795 --> 01:02:02,655 So they use this room as part of academy 1211 01:02:02,795 --> 01:02:04,095 and so that's part of the setup here. 1212 01:02:04,355 --> 01:02:06,095 You can see some of the, the boards 1213 01:02:06,095 --> 01:02:07,615 and stuff with the classroom rules 1214 01:02:07,835 --> 01:02:11,415 and each recruit has their own sandbag for, for when they do 1215 01:02:12,205 --> 01:02:14,415 different, different workouts or march 1216 01:02:14,475 --> 01:02:15,695 or anything along those lines. 1217 01:02:15,715 --> 01:02:18,535 So a lot of this room has been set up for, for the academy 1218 01:02:18,795 --> 01:02:20,525 And that's some of the stuff that you're seeing in here. 1219 01:02:20,545 --> 01:02:21,885 What's the reason for the home plate? 1220 01:02:24,105 --> 01:02:27,165 So that's, you wanna explain that? 1221 01:02:27,165 --> 01:02:28,285 Sure. Or you want me, want 1222 01:02:28,285 --> 01:02:31,205 Me to, so the home plate is there, 1223 01:02:31,205 --> 01:02:33,165 there's a whole essay on it about how 1224 01:02:33,965 --> 01:02:35,685 the home plate is always 17 inches. 1225 01:02:35,945 --> 01:02:37,605 It doesn't matter if you're little league 1226 01:02:38,025 --> 01:02:41,325 or playing in majors, it's always 17 inches. 1227 01:02:41,825 --> 01:02:44,725 So on day one we gave them a home plate 1228 01:02:45,185 --> 01:02:46,965 and they have to keep it with them at all times. 1229 01:02:47,625 --> 01:02:51,045 And the rule is that they can never change the standard. 1230 01:02:51,115 --> 01:02:52,685 It's always gonna be 17 inches. 1231 01:02:53,785 --> 01:02:55,365 So there's a whole lot more to it for that 1232 01:02:55,955 --> 01:02:58,685 Sure is, I saw the last time you had the home 1233 01:02:58,685 --> 01:02:59,925 plate on the patch. 1234 01:03:00,675 --> 01:03:03,045 Yeah. And we're actually gonna do that this, this week 1235 01:03:03,105 --> 01:03:04,965 or they've got some time on Friday 1236 01:03:04,965 --> 01:03:06,925 that they're gonna be painting their home plate 1237 01:03:07,065 --> 01:03:09,445 and they've been working on the design for it. 1238 01:03:09,875 --> 01:03:13,005 Nice. Yeah, I still have the challenge coin for that, 1239 01:03:13,065 --> 01:03:14,805 but it is an annoying shape. 1240 01:03:15,315 --> 01:03:18,165 It's a very, It's 1241 01:03:18,165 --> 01:03:20,085 An shape that weighs 25 pounds 1242 01:03:20,145 --> 01:03:23,205 and I try to steal it all the time. It's very difficult. 1243 01:03:23,725 --> 01:03:27,845 I believe it. It's always the very It's a conversation 1244 01:03:27,845 --> 01:03:28,965 starter though when you pull out your coins. 1245 01:03:29,275 --> 01:03:32,565 Where'd you get that one exclusive? We 1246 01:03:32,565 --> 01:03:33,565 Got some. 1247 01:03:33,565 --> 01:03:36,525 Those points do mean a lot. Thank you. 1248 01:03:37,235 --> 01:03:40,045 Okay, we're gonna go on to Prevention Chief. 1249 01:03:44,705 --> 01:03:45,965 Not a lot happened. 1250 01:03:46,205 --> 01:03:47,405 I mean we've been working hard 1251 01:03:47,505 --> 01:03:51,805 but there's not a lot of new stuff coming up this month. 1252 01:03:52,595 --> 01:03:55,205 I've been working with Garfield County to 1253 01:03:57,995 --> 01:04:01,965 politically correctly say that we're helping the, 1254 01:04:03,945 --> 01:04:07,725 the Liberty School to help fix some safety 1255 01:04:07,765 --> 01:04:08,885 concerns that they have. 1256 01:04:10,545 --> 01:04:12,645 And so they're in the process 1257 01:04:12,785 --> 01:04:15,325 of doing a remodel probably next summer. 1258 01:04:16,105 --> 01:04:19,285 And so we got them convinced that they need 1259 01:04:19,285 --> 01:04:21,925 to put a good working fire alarm in school 1260 01:04:22,905 --> 01:04:24,165 and so they did that. 1261 01:04:24,345 --> 01:04:26,725 And so the last couple weeks we've been working 1262 01:04:26,835 --> 01:04:28,125 with them to get that done. 1263 01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:31,645 So we now have a new working fire alarm in school when 1264 01:04:31,645 --> 01:04:33,045 they, when they started school. 1265 01:04:33,285 --> 01:04:37,085 'cause they didn't have one basically before. Are they, 1266 01:04:37,305 --> 01:04:38,765 Are they in the old Newcastle school 1267 01:04:38,885 --> 01:04:39,885 Building? 1268 01:04:39,885 --> 01:04:42,485 They are in the, what was called the Newcastle Mall. 1269 01:04:43,035 --> 01:04:46,285 It's actually the Apple Tree Mall, sorry. Oh, that one. 1270 01:04:46,535 --> 01:04:50,205 Apple Tree Mall. Yeah. And so they were in there. 1271 01:04:50,745 --> 01:04:52,445 That's the majority of the rooms 1272 01:04:52,505 --> 01:04:53,565 and they have another building 1273 01:04:53,595 --> 01:04:55,445 that they have some kindergarten rooms in. 1274 01:04:56,025 --> 01:04:58,805 So like I said, we're working with them to get 1275 01:04:58,995 --> 01:05:01,685 that cleaned up and make it safer for those kids. 1276 01:05:02,565 --> 01:05:07,045 That's been a goal of mine since I've came here from Aspen. 1277 01:05:07,145 --> 01:05:08,885 And so we're finally getting there. 1278 01:05:09,025 --> 01:05:11,405 So that's, I might be able to mark that one off 1279 01:05:11,405 --> 01:05:12,605 of my bucket list one of these days. 1280 01:05:13,785 --> 01:05:15,965 But anyhow, so that is moving forward. 1281 01:05:16,365 --> 01:05:17,805 They are gonna remodel next year 1282 01:05:17,865 --> 01:05:19,645 and the building will be a sprinkler system 1283 01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:24,565 and upgrades to safety in the hallways and things like that. 1284 01:05:24,785 --> 01:05:26,805 So we're working towards that. 1285 01:05:26,945 --> 01:05:28,365 So that's, that's a good thing. 1286 01:05:30,055 --> 01:05:31,645 Other than that, we've been working 1287 01:05:32,375 --> 01:05:34,925 throughout the county last, last week 1288 01:05:35,685 --> 01:05:37,365 actually lowered the burn restrictions 1289 01:05:37,505 --> 01:05:40,085 to stage one instead of being in stage two. 1290 01:05:40,085 --> 01:05:42,445 We've been in stage two for almost two months now, 1291 01:05:43,375 --> 01:05:45,885 which is quite a while for us around here. 1292 01:05:46,025 --> 01:05:50,365 So the fuel moistures are, have not gotten 1293 01:05:50,665 --> 01:05:54,005 or gotten wetter, so they're still pretty dry out there. 1294 01:05:54,905 --> 01:05:56,605 But everything else is kind of changing. 1295 01:05:56,745 --> 01:06:00,365 The evenings are cooler, the humidity is staying up higher, 1296 01:06:00,985 --> 01:06:02,605 so things are a little safer right now. 1297 01:06:02,665 --> 01:06:04,125 So we're gonna monitor what's 1298 01:06:04,125 --> 01:06:05,205 going on for the next couple weeks. 1299 01:06:05,765 --> 01:06:07,045 A little of rain, which is incredible. 1300 01:06:07,275 --> 01:06:09,405 Yeah, the rain was absolutely fabulous. 1301 01:06:10,105 --> 01:06:12,925 So we're monitoring that to see what happens. 1302 01:06:13,365 --> 01:06:15,085 We've already had calls for people wanting 1303 01:06:15,145 --> 01:06:16,645 to activate their burn permits 1304 01:06:17,145 --> 01:06:20,645 and we're not issuing any burn permits until we get out 1305 01:06:20,645 --> 01:06:21,765 of stage one anyhow. 1306 01:06:22,505 --> 01:06:25,325 So normally we start after Labor Day, 1307 01:06:25,385 --> 01:06:27,725 but not now we're waiting. 1308 01:06:28,355 --> 01:06:30,765 Okay. So that's where we're at with that. 1309 01:06:32,065 --> 01:06:34,565 And then just some things been going on. 1310 01:06:34,705 --> 01:06:39,125 We were at Hayday sealed hay days a couple weeks ago 1311 01:06:39,825 --> 01:06:41,645 and had a great, great showing there. 1312 01:06:41,945 --> 01:06:45,085 And we are doing Burning Mountain days this weekend 1313 01:06:45,345 --> 01:06:47,245 and then we have our open house coming 1314 01:06:47,245 --> 01:06:48,805 up the following weekend. 1315 01:06:49,425 --> 01:06:51,605 So a lot of things happening this month 1316 01:06:51,625 --> 01:06:53,085 around here, especially in September. 1317 01:06:55,325 --> 01:06:57,565 I liked the chief video for our open house. 1318 01:06:57,595 --> 01:07:00,165 That was pretty good. That was all 1319 01:07:00,165 --> 01:07:01,925 Kevin Atkins, you did a great job. 1320 01:07:02,065 --> 01:07:04,125 You did. That's really well done. 1321 01:07:05,145 --> 01:07:06,965 That's all I have unless you have some questions for me. 1322 01:07:07,685 --> 01:07:11,525 Questions for Chief Moon? Thank you Lauren. 1323 01:07:12,475 --> 01:07:15,005 Okay, we're gonna go on to it. And Data John. 1324 01:07:17,745 --> 01:07:21,445 Lot of stuff with changing access to programs. 1325 01:07:22,195 --> 01:07:24,885 Lexipol iss doing a whole new update on their system, 1326 01:07:24,985 --> 01:07:28,205 so it's gonna be a new, new design for everybody. 1327 01:07:29,145 --> 01:07:31,285 Do some work on the access we do there. 1328 01:07:31,305 --> 01:07:36,085 Trying to streamline our access with Vector Solutions 1329 01:07:36,185 --> 01:07:40,165 so that it's using the same username and password as email 1330 01:07:40,505 --> 01:07:43,015 and Lexipol and everything. 1331 01:07:43,015 --> 01:07:45,695 Trying to get that so that we've, rather than having 1332 01:07:46,235 --> 01:07:48,735 20 passwords, usernames 1333 01:07:48,735 --> 01:07:51,415 and passwords, we only have to have 19. 1334 01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:53,815 No. Trying to get that. 1335 01:07:54,515 --> 01:07:56,855 That's evident in how much time it takes 1336 01:07:56,875 --> 01:07:59,335 to set up a new user. 1337 01:07:59,675 --> 01:08:01,895 And that's what I did a lot of the last month. 1338 01:08:01,965 --> 01:08:04,215 Just getting all the new people 1339 01:08:04,235 --> 01:08:06,495 for the academy set up in all the different places 1340 01:08:06,505 --> 01:08:07,895 where they had to be set up. 1341 01:08:09,785 --> 01:08:11,015 Other than that, any questions 1342 01:08:12,715 --> 01:08:13,715 Mr. 1343 01:08:13,715 --> 01:08:16,085 For John? Okay, thanks John. 1344 01:08:17,065 --> 01:08:19,005 No, see PJ here. Who wants to do finance? 1345 01:08:19,425 --> 01:08:22,205 So yeah, she actually, it's in there where she's going. 1346 01:08:22,935 --> 01:08:25,245 She's on her way to the Grasshopper. 1347 01:08:25,245 --> 01:08:27,405 Austin Narrows complex fire. You 1348 01:08:27,405 --> 01:08:28,405 Getting deployed too, huh? 1349 01:08:28,405 --> 01:08:29,525 Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's 1350 01:08:29,525 --> 01:08:30,685 where she's headed to right now. 1351 01:08:30,905 --> 01:08:34,845 Trying to get to Where is that to, it's in Nevada. Okay. 1352 01:08:34,865 --> 01:08:37,165 So she's trying to get to Green River by tonight 1353 01:08:37,405 --> 01:08:39,205 'cause she can't pa travel past 10 o'clock 1354 01:08:40,305 --> 01:08:43,485 so she can have a less travel day tomorrow. 1355 01:08:44,105 --> 01:08:46,125 But you can see some of the stuff she's been doing 1356 01:08:47,275 --> 01:08:48,325 over the past month. 1357 01:08:48,485 --> 01:08:50,205 I, I know her and administrative 1358 01:08:50,915 --> 01:08:53,565 support assistant Valencia did a lot 1359 01:08:53,565 --> 01:08:55,845 of time at the beginning of the academy getting people 1360 01:08:55,845 --> 01:08:57,085 entered and going over all 1361 01:08:57,085 --> 01:08:58,405 the benefits and everything like that. 1362 01:08:58,405 --> 01:09:01,365 So Courtney did a great job with making that happen 1363 01:09:01,435 --> 01:09:02,645 with all of the recruits. 1364 01:09:03,265 --> 01:09:07,125 And, and Courtney has also been working on updating 1365 01:09:07,665 --> 01:09:10,685 our apparatus and license plates with Garfield County 1366 01:09:10,845 --> 01:09:13,645 and that turned into a, a project is it fair 1367 01:09:13,645 --> 01:09:15,365 to say a project in and of itself? 1368 01:09:16,435 --> 01:09:19,045 Yeah. So they've all been very busy 1369 01:09:19,065 --> 01:09:20,845 and we appreciate everything they've done. 1370 01:09:21,105 --> 01:09:22,845 Any questions on PJ's report 1371 01:09:24,565 --> 01:09:25,565 Questions? 1372 01:09:26,695 --> 01:09:29,565 Thank you Chief. Alright, 1373 01:09:31,495 --> 01:09:32,405 we'll go on to local 1374 01:09:32,495 --> 01:09:36,615 49 51. Who's gonna present that? 1375 01:09:37,305 --> 01:09:39,255 Thank you Ms. 1376 01:09:39,255 --> 01:09:40,735 Bill. Hopefully you can all hear me. Yep. 1377 01:09:41,125 --> 01:09:42,975 Okay. Bill, take a away. 1378 01:09:44,135 --> 01:09:46,335 I, I apologize I couldn't be there and I apologize. 1379 01:09:46,535 --> 01:09:48,695 I did not have the written document sent out 1380 01:09:48,695 --> 01:09:50,135 to the good time. 1381 01:09:51,315 --> 01:09:52,935 Not much has changed on our report. 1382 01:09:54,215 --> 01:09:58,575 GIS project is still waiting for analysis to be assigned 1383 01:09:59,795 --> 01:10:04,255 and John is continuing to work with putting more data in, 1384 01:10:04,485 --> 01:10:06,655 getting a little more streamlined for 1385 01:10:06,655 --> 01:10:08,095 what they need for the project. 1386 01:10:09,635 --> 01:10:12,815 We have, I've collected a little more information on the 1387 01:10:12,815 --> 01:10:15,095 wage study from Eagle River 1388 01:10:15,435 --> 01:10:18,055 and Aspen waiting on a few more pieces there. 1389 01:10:18,435 --> 01:10:20,895 And then that project should be assigned here real soon, 1390 01:10:23,285 --> 01:10:24,775 just being the Labor Day weekend. 1391 01:10:25,795 --> 01:10:28,495 You may have noticed we did not do MDA fill the boot, 1392 01:10:29,035 --> 01:10:30,055 but we are looking for, 1393 01:10:30,995 --> 01:10:34,975 to get the MDA coordinated position filled for 49 51. 1394 01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:39,655 And we have the same sentiment as 1395 01:10:40,775 --> 01:10:43,895 CRFR in losing chief car. 1396 01:10:44,995 --> 01:10:49,255 Mr. Carroll was, has been the secretary for local 49 51 1397 01:10:49,835 --> 01:10:51,375 for the past several years 1398 01:10:51,595 --> 01:10:54,855 and that's gonna be, that's gonna be our goal to fulfill. 1399 01:10:56,465 --> 01:10:58,215 Other than that, do you have any questions for me? 1400 01:10:58,795 --> 01:11:02,375 Any questions for Bill? Thank you, bill. I appreciate it. 1401 01:11:03,485 --> 01:11:05,615 Okay, we'll go on to good news and accomplishments 1402 01:11:06,595 --> 01:11:07,595 Second. 1403 01:11:07,595 --> 01:11:11,135 And that's, that's okay. So I actually took this picture 1404 01:11:11,305 --> 01:11:12,735 today and I wanna 1405 01:11:12,735 --> 01:11:16,005 Bring this up because this happens very, 1406 01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:19,845 very seldom for what we do. 1407 01:11:21,045 --> 01:11:23,605 I was walking down the hallway when this gentleman came in 1408 01:11:23,705 --> 01:11:27,605 and said, Hey, I want to thank you guys for what you do 1409 01:11:27,625 --> 01:11:28,885 and for what you did for me. 1410 01:11:30,675 --> 01:11:32,405 Long story short, he, 1411 01:11:34,225 --> 01:11:35,805 he had a car pull out in front 1412 01:11:35,805 --> 01:11:38,045 of him while he was on a motorcycle on Airport Road 1413 01:11:38,865 --> 01:11:41,285 and one, he's lucky to be alive, 1414 01:11:42,025 --> 01:11:46,805 but he very specifically remembered Robert Fields and, 1415 01:11:46,905 --> 01:11:48,405 and what Robert did for him. 1416 01:11:48,585 --> 01:11:50,405 And as you can see, Robert's a little sweaty. 1417 01:11:50,445 --> 01:11:54,405 I he, he was out working out at the time preparing himself 1418 01:11:55,145 --> 01:11:57,405 for just everything that we do on a regular basis. 1419 01:11:57,505 --> 01:12:01,565 And he came in and it was, it was very emotional for that, 1420 01:12:01,665 --> 01:12:03,725 for that gentleman in this wheelchair to thank Robert 1421 01:12:03,725 --> 01:12:06,725 because he very specifically remembered Robert 1422 01:12:06,825 --> 01:12:08,485 and I wish Robert's on shift tonight 1423 01:12:08,485 --> 01:12:10,165 and I was gonna bring you back in here for this, 1424 01:12:11,025 --> 01:12:12,965 but they're out on a call so we can't, 1425 01:12:13,745 --> 01:12:16,085 but it was, it was super cool to see the conversation. 1426 01:12:16,745 --> 01:12:18,085 One of the guys lucky to be alive, 1427 01:12:18,085 --> 01:12:21,645 but what he remembered the most, other than being 1428 01:12:21,785 --> 01:12:23,285 how much it hurt when he got moved was 1429 01:12:23,285 --> 01:12:24,285 how Robert treated him. 1430 01:12:25,065 --> 01:12:27,125 And so just wanted to recognize him for that 1431 01:12:27,125 --> 01:12:28,965 because it's pretty cool to see 1432 01:12:29,025 --> 01:12:30,245 to stand back and watch that. 1433 01:12:30,525 --> 01:12:31,765 I know Oren's not here right now, 1434 01:12:32,025 --> 01:12:33,725 but it's something you just don't see very often. 1435 01:12:34,185 --> 01:12:35,645 So I wanna recognize him for that 1436 01:12:35,825 --> 01:12:38,085 and his, his treatment of that patient that day. 1437 01:12:38,825 --> 01:12:39,825 So thank you. 1438 01:12:40,505 --> 01:12:44,765 That's awesome. Anything else? 1439 01:12:45,145 --> 01:12:47,845 That's it. Okay, we're gonna go on then 1440 01:12:47,845 --> 01:12:49,045 to board member comments. 1441 01:12:50,195 --> 01:12:51,605 Dick, do you wanna start us off tonight? 1442 01:12:53,345 --> 01:12:56,605 I'm starting my second week of my 90th 1443 01:12:57,065 --> 01:12:58,845 or my ninth decade, 1444 01:13:00,935 --> 01:13:03,365 which I reached week and a half ago. 1445 01:13:03,445 --> 01:13:05,765 I reached the age of nine. Oh happy birthday. 1446 01:13:05,785 --> 01:13:08,645 And I plan to be around for at least two more years 1447 01:13:08,745 --> 01:13:10,365 to give you all hell 1448 01:13:11,665 --> 01:13:13,165 We would expect nothing less. 1449 01:13:13,885 --> 01:13:17,725 Absolutely. Yeah. Oh and children Bera, 1450 01:13:19,315 --> 01:13:22,685 welcome to the we lad from the 1451 01:13:23,125 --> 01:13:24,605 Emal back. 1452 01:13:26,385 --> 01:13:29,525 Yes. Ready? 1453 01:13:31,525 --> 01:13:33,885 I just wanna say thank you as usual. I don't wanna leave 1454 01:13:33,885 --> 01:13:35,925 it on a downer after all that good news and stuff, 1455 01:13:35,945 --> 01:13:38,845 but I don't think it really is gonna 1456 01:13:38,845 --> 01:13:40,005 change much in how you guys do stuff. 1457 01:13:40,105 --> 01:13:42,565 But you, the policy that was included in our board packet 1458 01:13:42,595 --> 01:13:46,965 this week or this month is the 8 0 4. 1459 01:13:47,595 --> 01:13:50,285 Just want to kind of highlight maybe just like if anyone 1460 01:13:50,285 --> 01:13:54,005 reads the minutes, that's that AI is a nice fun tool 1461 01:13:54,545 --> 01:13:56,525 and it's very dangerous when we're talking about patient 1462 01:13:56,525 --> 01:13:57,885 care reports in my opinion. 1463 01:13:58,825 --> 01:14:02,045 So I'd just like to maybe spread the word that 1464 01:14:02,645 --> 01:14:04,005 I would challenge you guys that the amount 1465 01:14:04,005 --> 01:14:05,805 of oversight under the human oversight 1466 01:14:05,825 --> 01:14:08,685 and the acceptable use it would be just as quick 1467 01:14:08,685 --> 01:14:12,485 to write your own report without AI assist in my opinion. 1468 01:14:14,545 --> 01:14:17,885 And I think we're on a dangerous pre, pre precipice 1469 01:14:17,955 --> 01:14:20,605 with the AI component and I know that everyone's going to it 1470 01:14:20,605 --> 01:14:23,125 and it won't make a bean a difference if one Luddite sticks 1471 01:14:23,125 --> 01:14:24,525 out and says, Nope, it's not good stuff. 1472 01:14:24,585 --> 01:14:27,485 But I just would like maybe the word to that's 1473 01:14:28,625 --> 01:14:30,165 please pay attention. 1474 01:14:31,075 --> 01:14:33,165 That stuff is scary and 1475 01:14:35,005 --> 01:14:36,005 It's kind of scary. 1476 01:14:36,005 --> 01:14:37,975 We're not depending on our own thinking anymore, are we? 1477 01:14:38,675 --> 01:14:40,855 No we aren't. That's What's scary about it. 1478 01:14:40,875 --> 01:14:43,055 So it's just that that's, that's kind of what we do. 1479 01:14:43,125 --> 01:14:45,735 That patient care right There also isn't just for that guy 1480 01:14:45,795 --> 01:14:46,855 who came back and said this, 1481 01:14:46,855 --> 01:14:48,535 that it's all the work we do afterwards 1482 01:14:48,555 --> 01:14:49,615 for our patients also. 1483 01:14:49,995 --> 01:14:53,295 And that writing a narrative is kind of like a skill. 1484 01:14:53,395 --> 01:14:55,655 It takes some effort and you have to learn how to do that. 1485 01:14:55,795 --> 01:14:58,535 And I don't know if you've ever done AI emails 1486 01:14:58,595 --> 01:14:59,735 or ai, anything else like that. 1487 01:14:59,795 --> 01:15:00,815 It does not sound like you. 1488 01:15:01,035 --> 01:15:02,295 And there is like a reason why 1489 01:15:02,295 --> 01:15:03,575 we're writing those reports ourselves. 1490 01:15:03,595 --> 01:15:07,215 So the policy concerns me and it's like to voice that here 1491 01:15:07,275 --> 01:15:08,855 and I know that it's probably not gonna change anything 1492 01:15:09,055 --> 01:15:11,295 'cause everyone's enamored with ai, 1493 01:15:12,235 --> 01:15:16,695 but it's scary. Let's pay attention. 1494 01:15:17,505 --> 01:15:19,375 Thank you Ed Adrian. 1495 01:15:20,285 --> 01:15:24,375 Well I would like to agree with Addie on the ai. 1496 01:15:24,815 --> 01:15:29,655 I am very nervous. Just anything regarding ai, 1497 01:15:29,895 --> 01:15:30,895 I, I'm not sure, 1498 01:15:32,075 --> 01:15:36,015 but I would like to thank everyone for their continued 1499 01:15:36,865 --> 01:15:40,975 dedication, all the reports and time and everything. 1500 01:15:41,075 --> 01:15:43,935 You guys just never cease to amaze me. 1501 01:15:46,005 --> 01:15:48,115 Thank you Adrian. Paige, 1502 01:15:53,155 --> 01:15:54,695 I'm sorry I wasn't able to be there. 1503 01:15:54,955 --> 01:15:56,215 I'm here with my niece. 1504 01:15:56,495 --> 01:15:59,815 I had promised her we would go horseback ride. 1505 01:16:01,195 --> 01:16:03,855 That's awesome. You have a place to do it. Yep. 1506 01:16:05,485 --> 01:16:07,455 Then she cuts Out. Thank you Paige. 1507 01:16:09,455 --> 01:16:10,775 I agree with, with Patty. 1508 01:16:11,135 --> 01:16:13,215 I I think that we're coming to a point where we, 1509 01:16:13,715 --> 01:16:15,495 And talk to you soon. 1510 01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:17,895 Alright. Thank you Paige. 1511 01:16:18,745 --> 01:16:22,815 We're, we're depending on a machine to think for us 1512 01:16:23,075 --> 01:16:24,535 and that that's scary 1513 01:16:24,675 --> 01:16:27,895 and we're losing our individualism with that. 1514 01:16:28,475 --> 01:16:32,275 And so it's, it's something we need to limit. 1515 01:16:32,515 --> 01:16:34,715 I think also wanna plug our 1516 01:16:36,435 --> 01:16:37,835 September 19th open house. 1517 01:16:39,325 --> 01:16:42,675 Usual. It's gonna be full house of people there 1518 01:16:43,095 --> 01:16:45,595 and a lot of things look at, show the community 1519 01:16:45,595 --> 01:16:47,635 what we do and good food. 1520 01:16:48,255 --> 01:16:50,395 And I, I imagine the chiefs gonna be throwing burgers, 1521 01:16:50,715 --> 01:16:52,115 burgers and hot dogs again. 1522 01:16:52,585 --> 01:16:54,355 Something along those lines. Okay. 1523 01:16:55,315 --> 01:16:57,555 I, I plan on helping you out with that. Perfect. 1524 01:16:57,555 --> 01:17:00,995 Thank you. And look forward to seeing everybody there. 1525 01:17:01,585 --> 01:17:03,615 With that, everybody have a good night.