[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] That piece of property, I don't know how to get it on that. [1:38] Is this only going to be dealable by whom? [1:42] That, that would be pulling up right now. [1:44] We need to see [1:49] it. [2:08] We need to go ahead. [2:11] When, when, when, [2:49] when. [2:49] For shit. [2:51] We're good. I mean, you can start. [2:53] If you need to, and he's probably working on that to be fine. [3:11] Mr. Able. Mr. Campbell. [3:16] Mr. Martin. [3:18] Mr. Verales. [3:21] Mr. Doug. [3:22] Here. [3:23] Chair, declare the form. [3:24] We do have a form. [3:25] We can't conduct visits. [3:26] This time we'll ask for the approval of the minutes for last meeting. [3:30] You have been putting it in your package. [3:31] Did you buy any additions? [3:33] Our corrections to the minutes. [3:35] Move to approve. [3:37] Mr. Campbell. [3:37] Mr. Doug. [3:39] Mr. Doug. [3:41] Mr. Able, Mr. Campbell, Mr. Martin, Mr. Dougher, Mr. Dougher, we have a bit of approval from [3:51] last meeting. [3:52] This time, is it an old business on the floor for this time? [3:56] Being done, we'll have to go ready for the new business. [3:58] This is a request from level construction for a variance for the CD and 4C standards, for [4:04] I don't even assess your buildings located at 806 National Highway being taxed by none of [4:09] one. [4:09] Group B are so one. [4:11] They certainly have a presentation, please. [4:14] Yes, sure. [4:15] Thank you, Chairman. [4:16] This, as you stated, comes before the four zone of appeals for a balance request and it's [4:23] going to be directly related to placement of an accessory structure of the location [4:29] site location for that. [4:30] This is proposed accessory structure to cover operational equipment for Columbia power that is located in front of the National Highway. [4:44] And deeper puzzle is to construct a temporary accessory structure on top of that area sitting in your pack. [4:58] Temporary, now temporary according to applicant is, could be two to three years, so temporary placement, that's correct. [5:09] As fully constructed, it meets the primary build materials for building and that particular zone. [5:16] However, as an accessory structure is placed in the first layer, directly in front of not directly in front, but in front of the primary structure. [5:25] on site. It is relevant and imperative that that get covered because of the capacity in which [5:35] that equipment operates and provides service to the city of Columbia. It's a protective measure [5:41] for freezing those lines that are existing there. I think there's some discrepancy and I'll let [5:49] the in the report that you've seen and what was submitted to us versus the placement of [5:55] this. When I reviewed this it came in as this middle and I located the suspected side according [6:06] to this middle. And Austin, if you will pull it around to that elevated pad that you had [6:14] their first. It's the big elevated pad. That's it. Okay. So the large elevated pad with the equipment [6:22] on top as you see there is approximately 40 feet from the road, but I've been told since by [6:28] the applicant that it's concerning the encased electrical boxes rat to the left of that picture, [6:38] which places it further from the road, still an accessory structure in front of the primary. [6:44] But the review was done on elevated pad, not on the... [6:51] This has changed, do you think? [6:54] Possibly does, because suggestion of staff, [6:57] submitted to staff was the condition of landscape treatment foundation, [7:03] but I was basing off the elevation of the slab there. [7:10] That does change it, I don't know that you would have any place to [7:14] place the landscaping at the foundation unless they have room to work with it [7:20] right in this particular location where the boxes are. [7:27] So we would have to [7:28] look at that once it gets to build in permit because that is the request of [7:33] of staff is the approval of this based on our subject to the condition of foundation landscaping [7:46] because it is in fronting National Highway as such. So if you have any questions I would [7:55] I had to answer them, but that's the essence of the review and whether it was Mamestate or [8:04] the applicant, the applicants submitted documents that indicated that area. [8:07] So whenever viewed, I was looking specifically at the elevator slab. [8:11] Anybody have them come in or stay up. [8:18] We'll just pick that up to the surface. [8:20] Got them. [8:20] Oh, do you have them? [8:21] Make a presentation? [8:22] Your name for the reference. [8:24] Bob, I love them. [8:26] We just need to, they just need to cover up right there where you see the power box. [8:30] They need to put a top on it. [8:33] Who's going to put, uh, need drugs. [8:35] There were something there, so they could raise them up. [8:38] They're in the summer where they won't close in during the winter. [8:43] We just have to adjust the doors to where they need to, where they feel it, but it's [8:48] own the drawings there. [8:49] What it is now, another net that's all it is to, and I'm going to go back, back in the [8:55] side, but front, back in the side, this side over here will be just be your garage doors [9:02] as they just need them to up, up for the air, the back sides, and once it will have to just [9:06] make sure that the doors will open up, pay us down. [9:12] Questions of the afternoon? [9:17] Move to the further. [9:19] I'm motioned to the further. [9:20] I hear a second. [9:25] Well, quick, quick, quick. [9:26] Here, Mr. Archibald, you didn't have any conditions on this video. [9:30] That was about to ask. [9:33] If you move to approve, based on the condition, it will require landscaping at the foundation [9:39] upon building permit. [9:42] I don't know if you still want to consider that condition due to the change of the location. [9:48] It's possible we could get still foundational landscape and we met them all at the front [9:53] because of the location and they might not even be able to do that. [10:00] But that's something that I suggested is a condition of the approval. [10:04] So I don't know if the location change made any difference on that condition or not. [10:08] So why is your question about that, um, how does temporary, does the landscape mean that much? [10:16] I'll just, [10:21] well, temporary is based on the time, right, um, that's subjective, temporary here. [10:28] In this case is possibility of two to three years. [10:31] We have no approximate deadline for that temporary, yes, of this structure. [10:36] So the condition was suggested as a result of the accessory structure being in front of the primary structure in fronting a main thoroughfare and treatment foundation treatment is required per the zoning ordinance, whether temporary or not, there's no call out or differentiation on the temporaryness or the permanent permanence of the structure. [11:05] when it comes to foundational landscaping. [11:09] That was the reason. [11:11] So to answer your question, [11:13] temporary to me is less than the approximate time of two to three years. [11:19] Temporary would be more in my opinion, [11:23] a 30-day, 60-day, [11:25] not extending out two to three years. [11:28] And possibly even more, it just depends a lot on [11:32] other sat work and other construction that's going to be taking place at Columbia Power. [11:38] So that's what the temporaryness of this project is. [11:43] I'm going to talk to my motion. [11:46] They are moving through with the addition of the bus. [11:50] That's critical. [11:51] If possible. [11:53] To the end, Mr. Lowe, do you have a question? [11:55] Yeah, that's what we talked about there. [11:57] We don't know where you put that up around that or not. [11:59] We've got that more stuff that's what's out there. [12:06] That's correct. That's correct. The permit phase. We will look at the landscaping at that point. I'll be working with Mr. Lowell. I'll do the plan review as well. [12:15] It'll go through building as such too. So with the building permit phase, this one that can be addressed if it is possible. [12:23] Jim, I have a question, but I think you have a motion, do I need to wait till you have a [12:28] second? [12:28] As my question, thank you. [12:30] I'm sorry. [12:31] I'm sorry. [12:34] We've talked about the placement, I'm curious that this is probably more aesthetic. [12:38] Can you share a little bit about the materials that this will be constructed of? [12:43] It might be in your notes, but I can. [12:46] I don't think it was covered in my notes. However, it's a hearty plank, satty, and then you've got the [12:54] garage door placement, and from understand in Mr. Lovell, that's going to be on the front facing [13:00] National Highway and the back. So the primary built-in materials are acceptable in our allowed, in that particular zone, [13:08] and they've presented as such to meet those standards. [13:11] It'll be the same color, key of other buildings on that property. [13:17] So it won't stand out. [13:20] It'll actually fit within context of the built-in materials. [13:24] It's just the placement and due to the entire structure is hardy plain. [13:32] That's correct. [13:34] So the only thing visible that you possibly will even have [13:37] is a slab edge, and our hopes for the landscape treatment around the foundation will take care of that if that's possible for the very future. [13:45] And question, probably more to staff, does this establish any sort of precedence for us going forward with future applicants? [13:59] And now, this is a public works entity, but what are we looking at in regards to that? [14:10] Yes, ma'am. [14:11] I think the Board is only in appeals has the ability to review each and every case individually [14:17] without a precedent set. [14:19] There's a history and it will always be there with every case that you decide on. [14:24] I don't think it gives direction, whether I'm sorry. [14:28] what you just did one more time. [14:31] Yes, I will. [14:32] So, as far as the President, Board's Honor Appeals [14:36] has arrived to be concerned about sitting in a president. [14:40] Individual case by case faces that is correct. [14:44] And the President is, I guess, can be viewed [14:49] as such as history of what you've rolled on, [14:52] but it does not lock you or any other member of the zoning. [14:58] board into 8. [15:00] Decision on the next similar situation that comes. Y'all are viewing each individual criteria and individual [15:09] basis. I have a question about that. I've got a question. After two or three years, [15:16] Walt will be done to the five. Mr. Lovell, I don't know if you. I just, we have, we have [15:26] prior knowledge that there's other development that's going to be taking place. And it's, [15:33] I'm not for sure of the area of that lot, it hasn't come to any board or any but [15:40] but we do have prior knowledge that there is future city coming to the city. [15:45] Columbia power that's correct yes and they are apart of the city however they are [15:58] dependent of the city as well. So it's but the future development that takes your [16:03] request in the prior knowledge is mainly sat development. I think it's [16:10] concerning the entirety of the property but that that has not been reviewed [16:15] development wise. We've did pre-outs and stuff but that's here. [16:18] There's a number of [16:22] lots of other places facing the road. [16:26] He aren't correct that you see whether you see where the equipment is the gray in the and the brown and gray [16:38] Austin can be far more that [16:41] Okay, right there. Yes, that's what's got to be covered. Okay, that's all it's gonna be covered up is that right there in the background there [16:49] Okay, and it's just it's a 10 foot wide [16:53] 24 feet long [16:55] Don't leave it [16:57] And I'm just curious, why does it have to be contained? [17:01] Did you close the shows up last year, and they didn't have a twin-foot of water left. [17:04] It's bring heel last year. [17:06] Oh, okay. [17:08] Okay. [17:08] At [17:11] here you, we're, okay. [17:15] And this is probably just more a statement for the future. [17:20] As developments take place on that property. [17:24] I know it's more of an operational type, [17:28] And I imagine the chain link fence is for security that it would be nice to see a little more aesthetic there going forward if that's going to remain on our throw fair, you know, I can it would be nice to see a [17:44] more aesthetically pleasing, fencing, security, so I don't know if you all, in conversations [17:51] with Columbia power, if they were interested in some, I'm pretty- [17:55] We already had that conversation, and that's something that'll be worth- [18:00] Hopefully we won't work in, and it's great, and a little more meaningful there. [18:05] I don't know, Mr. Archibald. We were in a meeting yesterday, and that was brought up. [18:08] you were in that meeting from C.P.W.S about doing that same thing, doing an improved [18:15] fence along the front, and then fencing that all the way around, does kind of create [18:22] somewhat of a challenge though because they are protected under Homeland Security Axe being [18:27] a sensitive site, so there is going to have to be some further discussion about not using [18:33] barbed wire, I think that's a requirement for homeland security, but something that may come [18:39] up in discussion, but they are wanting to do an aesthetically pleasing fence because they're [18:46] doing significant upgrades to this entire property, part of their future goals. [18:51] Especially now that they're cornered. [18:54] I'm pleased to hear that, and I think there are ways that you can aesthetically improve [18:59] and they'll maintain your security. [19:01] They have even that measure of license. [19:03] Thank you. [19:04] Thank you. [19:05] Yeah, I'm a motion. [19:08] We have a second. [19:10] Please roll call. [19:11] Mr. Able. [19:14] Mr. Campbell. [19:16] Ms. Martin. [19:18] Mr. Dugger. [19:19] I'm motion carries. [19:20] Guys, I just. [19:21] Well, I'm paying now this year. [19:23] We just. [19:24] All we do now is I'm just getting this year for this. [19:26] the family power, they may have to put this out to be it, so it could be anybody that [19:31] be it, but it's what they're going to go by. [19:35] OK. [19:36] OK. [19:37] OK. [19:37] Thank you. [19:39] Thank you. [19:41] Thank you. [19:41] Thank you. [19:42] Thank you. [19:43] Let's go. [19:44] Let's go. [19:44] Let's go. [19:45] Let's go. [19:57] I think we have been blessed. [19:59] I haven't, I still agree how chairman, but none of year, I think we could elect him to [20:06] throw another year. [20:08] Do you want to hear a second? [20:09] A second. [20:10] I'd like to invite me to the second roll call, but please. [20:13] Mr. Able's, Mr. Campbell, Ms. Martin, I, Mr. Dugger. [20:19] Thanks for that. [20:20] Thank you. [20:20] No, we're in opposition. [20:21] Thank you very much. [20:22] It's honored to serve. [20:23] Okay. [20:25] We'd have any other questions. [20:26] About education, we had a few of us do the RF, that is our education, [20:37] we have a real call any kind of comments about education. [20:41] Maybe enough, I did not attend the power of tune. [20:47] As far as, would you ask me a question? [20:52] Education for... [20:53] Not sure. [20:54] Okay. No, no future education, I'm more of a 10 to the power of 10 is as far as 10 enough, just fine, who I was there. [21:05] Yes, that's correct. [21:10] Before we end the end of the year. [21:15] That's correct, yes. [21:16] All right. Okay, maybe y'all can send me a link or something like that. [21:24] Good. [21:27] Miss Richardson had reminded me we also liked a vice chair. [21:32] Do we do that? [21:36] I'd like to nominate Adiables. [21:40] Are you willing? [21:44] Okay. [21:49] Mr. Ables. Mr. Campbell. Mr. Martin. Mr. Dougher. [21:58] Mr. Chair. [22:02] I will make sure Jimmy is here. [22:04] Never made it. [22:07] All right. [22:08] I was listening. [22:12] I was going to be like. [22:13] We got to go. [22:16] And I think for the update on the education, everybody has some hours this year at the requirement. [22:25] So we can get all of this and everybody's got to be someone else. [22:29] Once again, congratulations on the success of that last option. [22:32] How do you deal with South City? [22:34] Yeah, thank you. [22:34] Pretty good. [22:35] Do you want to begin? [22:36] Next year. [22:36] If you plan for us. [22:37] Did that satisfy or did we need hours beyond that? [22:51] We have motion to adjourn and properly. [22:56] We are adjourned. [23:10] 1. [23:16] 1. [23:17] 1. [23:17] 1. [23:18] 1. [23:18] 1. [23:19] 1. [23:21] 1. [23:22] 1. [23:23] 1. [23:27] 1.