1 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:46,760 It's 2 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:54,080 4 o'clock. I'll call the Columbia Municipal Planning Commission meeting to order. We'll start with the roll call. 3 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Here. It's beautiful. 4 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,220 Here. 5 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Here. 6 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:22,650 Present. I have a quorum, present. I'd like to welcome everyone here tonight. Looks like a 7 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:27,370 small audience and fairly small agenda so maybe we'll all get home at a 8 00:04:27,370 --> 00:04:32,490 decent time but thanks for coming. We'll start with the approval of, I'm sorry, 9 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:36,770 the acknowledgement of official communication from City Council on annexations 10 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:41,730 and zones. Now yes, Mr. Chairman, so you did have four ordinances at the February 11 00:04:41,730 --> 00:04:47,070 13th meeting. These are all the ordinance retaining to your last round of 12 00:04:47,070 --> 00:04:54,210 zoning text amendments. Those did pass first consideration. Would point out though that we will 13 00:04:54,890 --> 00:05:00,690 be seeing that pushed out an extra month due to some notification, public notice notifications 14 00:05:00,690 --> 00:05:07,290 that we need to adhere to. And so that may not come in fact until April or May. 15 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,940 And those are all 16 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:15,880 that. Thank you, Mr. Felner. Any questions? Staff on that. Next time it's going to be approval of 17 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,520 minutes of last month's meeting, there's a copy in the package for everyone to have reviewed 18 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,400 and if any amendments or anything need to be made, please do we state it's not our 19 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,060 interruption. 20 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:34,180 So moved, except as presented, motion, second, any other discussion, we'll call the vote 21 00:05:34,180 --> 00:05:34,620 on the minutes. 22 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Aye. 23 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,700 Mr. Sloan? 24 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:45,000 Aye. 25 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,300 Good to go. 26 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:46,780 Aye. 27 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Minutes are approved. 28 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:50,720 Next time it's going to be the review of bonds and letters of credit. 29 00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:54,900 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All letters of credit are in order in the process of being updated. 30 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:56,480 Thank you, Mr. Harper. 31 00:05:57,500 --> 00:06:02,980 I have one item on our consent tonight. I'll read it out loud and I always ask if there's any one 32 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:08,000 to be pulled out for discussion. We can do so and in this particular case, I do have a question 33 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,680 of staff on it so I guess it will be open for discussion. So item number one is going to be a request 34 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,280 from Alan O'Leary for final plat approval approval with the surety of the amount of 190,000 dollars 35 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:23,380 of Williamsport landing phase 3 consisting of 28 lights off Williamsport Pike at Oak Springs 36 00:06:23,380 --> 00:06:29,400 Drive being a 12.66 acre portion of Tax Map 88, RSO 51.05. 37 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:36,900 I guess my, I guess starch, since it is just a consent item, just a quick question of staff. 38 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:43,620 In reading the DRC report and the response to the DRC comments, there was a report or statement 39 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:49,560 in there from CPWS stating that I think it's maybe just for an FYI but I just want to make 40 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,220 sure that we maybe note on the record that we've taken into consideration and at least 41 00:06:53,220 --> 00:06:59,920 reviewed that, that the applicant is negotiating or trying to at least do some negotiations with 42 00:07:00,460 --> 00:07:06,040 I'm sorry CPWS is trying to negotiate with the applicant pertaining to some easements needed for 43 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:12,220 the water expansion that the water department is trying to achieve going forward and I don't know 44 00:07:12,220 --> 00:07:17,440 that's even an item that we can consider on any of our vote in this matter, but, you know, 45 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,500 I just wanted to at least bring that, you know, up and maybe get some direction from staff on that 46 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:27,480 too while I noted in the plan in the DRC reports. That's correct. Thank you for pulling that out. 47 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:34,060 It was noted in the technical report or the DRC comments. Climbing power and mortar systems 48 00:07:34,060 --> 00:07:39,440 wishes to note the CPWS has submitted the property owner a good faith offer based on a 49 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,140 praised fair market value to acquire easements along the rear of the property for a water transmission 50 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:51,600 main. It's part of CPWS's long term water supply program. The easement will affect residential 51 00:07:51,600 --> 00:08:00,520 lots 81 and 82. They also noted that they're currently in negotiations for the same. The, of course, 52 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,920 the preliminary flat came through a final flat came through. It was reviewed, went through technical, 53 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,840 So met the standards put in previously approved preliminary 54 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,700 plans. So all the standards have been adhered to by the applicant. 55 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,740 But that was a note that Columbia Power did wish to present in their comments. 56 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,680 I don't know exactly where they're at in the negotiations with the property on 57 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,620 at this point, but the final plat that's presented to not the planning commission 58 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:40,280 does meet in adhere to the standards currently. There's no easement that's been placed, 59 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:47,000 therefore no accountability was made for the easement. They're on the final platelets 60 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,140 presented to the planning commission. And all those discussions would have come forth 61 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:54,940 after this preliminary plat and all was even again, and, you know, approved, you know, 62 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,500 sometime back anyway. That's correct to my knowledge. That's correct, yes sir. 63 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,840 and so maybe for city attorney or whatever. 64 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,580 Just do we note that the comment is there, 65 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:08,700 but it's not a criteria item of which we could, 66 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:10,560 I think we could base any decision upon 67 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,700 since the question plaque forms to our ordinance. 68 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,420 Is that an accurate assumption? 69 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:16,820 Right, okay. 70 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Then I will do we note that that is a comment there 71 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,560 and I hope the conversations continue. 72 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:23,320 That being said, I'll make the motion 73 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,040 to approve subjectivity technical comments. 74 00:09:27,530 --> 00:09:27,650 Second. 75 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:32,010 I have a motion and a second by Mr. McBrune, further discussion. 76 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:33,810 Seeing none, we'll call the vote. 77 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Aye. 78 00:09:41,330 --> 00:09:41,410 Aye. 79 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:41,950 Mr. Stone. 80 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:42,610 Aye. 81 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:44,730 Aye. 82 00:09:45,230 --> 00:09:46,410 Item passes. 83 00:09:46,850 --> 00:09:48,670 Raise us to our discussion items tonight. 84 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:51,290 Item number one, I'll read it. 85 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:55,410 The request from Greg Gamble to Rezone Property attacks him at 90. 86 00:09:55,410 --> 00:10:02,850 parcel 7.12 being a 5-acre tract at River Road and Taylor Bend from PUD planning to 87 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:07,610 development to a CD-5 Urban Center Character District with revocation of the 88 00:10:07,610 --> 00:10:14,610 water's edge at Taylor Bend PUD. I've seen here that this applicant has requested 89 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:19,690 this be withdrawn. Yes sir, is it correct? They have officially withdrawn this. They have 90 00:10:19,690 --> 00:10:24,770 indicated that they will be looking to resummit this at a later date and 91 00:10:24,770 --> 00:10:30,030 in a different application type, but it is off of the document. 92 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:31,250 All right. 93 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:35,590 I do see that there was a speaker signed up with this item, particularly being withdrawn. 94 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:41,810 I don't know that there's any necessity to bring up discussion from public comment with 95 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:43,350 it being withdrawn from Plenty Public Vote. 96 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:51,190 So that being said, I think I'm going to move on to the next item, which is going to be item 97 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:56,370 Section 2, request from, that's not about right, what's the draw on which to do anything? 98 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:57,190 Yes, sir. 99 00:10:57,570 --> 00:11:03,850 Item number 2 is going to be a request from Olivia DuPoi, DuPoi for preliminary put, master 100 00:11:03,850 --> 00:11:09,310 plan approval with architectural design regarding construction of a 45,000 square foot commercial 101 00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:16,890 building in the honey farm crossing PD subdivision, being a 7.49 acre portion of tax map 51, parcel 102 00:11:16,890 --> 00:11:22,790 58 at Nashville Highway and Honey Farmway, and I see a note as well that the applicant is requesting 103 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,350 a deferral on this item. 104 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:28,150 Mr. Brown deferred, Mr. Brass, he's been working with them on this project. 105 00:11:28,590 --> 00:11:29,170 Thank you. 106 00:11:30,450 --> 00:11:31,410 Thank you, Mr. Gates. 107 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:37,550 We typically do a biweekly check-in meeting with the Walmart team, particularly with the 108 00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:44,410 architect and the site engineer, and with this project, there's been several renditions 109 00:11:44,410 --> 00:11:51,610 that we have reviewed and staff does feel very comfortable with the overall site plan in terms of meeting our zoning ordinance. 110 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:57,250 Nevertheless, the primary reason for this deferral has to do with the architectural elevations. 111 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:05,950 There were some last minute changes that Walmart corporate had made in reducing some glazing. However, they did add brick along the rear elevation. 112 00:12:06,610 --> 00:12:13,050 And in discussing with the architect this morning about the project, she had stated that they are confident that they will be at the April meeting. 113 00:12:13,050 --> 00:12:18,470 However, they did want the corporate team to be here to be able to answer any additional 114 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:18,890 questions. 115 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:22,290 So that is a primary reason for the deferral, is the architecture. 116 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:28,250 Let's have a question on, I think I can ask a question as long as it's pertaining to 117 00:12:28,250 --> 00:12:29,030 the deferral. 118 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:30,270 That's right. 119 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:30,850 All right. 120 00:12:30,990 --> 00:12:32,490 I guess this is going to be a draw. 121 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:33,550 So I don't even know. 122 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:34,090 Good afternoon. 123 00:12:34,090 --> 00:12:36,230 This is part of public comment. 124 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:42,590 I guess open discussion because I have spoken with the Walmart corporate folks a couple 125 00:12:42,590 --> 00:12:49,110 times. And I just wanted, is there purpose of being here next month to explain what 126 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:53,470 their variances are going to be or their requests for variances? 127 00:12:54,310 --> 00:13:02,150 It is. The deviation requests are really primarily the glazing on the building and they are 128 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:07,170 aware it is a planning development. And so they just want to be able to answer any questions 129 00:13:07,170 --> 00:13:08,650 is there anything that may come up? 130 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:12,530 In addition to that, there was a proposal for signage 131 00:13:13,130 --> 00:13:15,290 with a monument sign and also a proposal 132 00:13:15,290 --> 00:13:16,570 for a freestanding sign. 133 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:18,870 A staff did discuss with the applicant 134 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:21,630 that a monument sign is what we would be looking for 135 00:13:21,630 --> 00:13:23,670 in similar precedent to pasture probals. 136 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:26,370 And in the latest and greatest rendition, 137 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:28,210 they did show a monument sign there. 138 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:31,130 I think that a lot of it started with us 139 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:33,430 to let them know that they needed to have somebody here 140 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:40,250 that. Yeah, initially the architect was not able to attend. There was some adverse weather 141 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:45,250 where they were coming from. And so we did feel that there was any questions that were going 142 00:13:45,250 --> 00:13:50,310 to be asked. You know, there was no one here to represent them for that. All right. Well, 143 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:54,810 I actually have another question on that. But before I go to that, let me get back to, okay, 144 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:59,250 so this one is requesting a deferral that it's the previous one that was totally withdrawn. 145 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:00,690 Let me get back to the glazing. 146 00:14:00,930 --> 00:14:06,990 So, isn't there an opportunity for staff now to have a little bit more discretion in 147 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:13,970 their ability to waive certain, particularly glazing requirements that, I mean, I remember 148 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:20,030 we had this conversation relative to the dollar general project that, you know, thought that 149 00:14:20,030 --> 00:14:22,710 the glazing requirements were very... 150 00:14:23,410 --> 00:14:23,750 Ornish. 151 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:24,350 Yes. 152 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:32,590 And it seems like we made a couple of dates, maybe one that reduced the glazing, but two that provided staff a little more discretion so that we didn't have to 153 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:41,730 necessarily delay projects like this, so because now they're having to wait another 30 days before they even get approval, which means they're 30 days down from 154 00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:50,530 you know, their next step, which means they're 30 days away from breaking ground, which means we're 30 days away. I mean, it's just, I wish there was a more expedited way to 155 00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:56,110 I think the challenge is, Mayor Mulder, you may recall, this was a site that the property 156 00:14:56,110 --> 00:14:59,010 owner did ask to be rezoned to a straight zone. 157 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,840 The commission and council, maybe the council agreed to keep it city force, to keep it a PUD. And so because they are tied up in that PUD zoning staff does not have any legal way to consider administrative deviations. And so really it's a PUD. So the PUD is the reason that this is having to come back. So is that an example of this had not been a PUD? The staff would have had some. Exactly. And I tell you, I mean, the whole discussion that we've had with Walmart has been very 158 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,980 amenable. They have significantly met our coach standards with internal drives, sidewalks, 159 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:41,420 landscaping. Really, the only deviations is the glazing. There may be some minor architectural 160 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:47,800 deviations and some building site deviations. So they're very minimal and that's often the 161 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,480 goal staff is to work with an applicant to reduce the deviations toward when it comes to this commission. 162 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,340 We don't have to have a plethora of deviations. And to your point, the glazing requirements 163 00:15:58,340 --> 00:16:17,660 are very ornerous and I did discuss that with the architect. It's a challenge sometimes with a big box store to have a 50 was in this case, it's going to be a 70% glazing requirement because it is a pod. So it is something that I think staff can feel comfortable with the deviation. But again, it's a pod so it's up to the commission. 164 00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:27,100 So so they're operating under the 70% glazing requirement for a building that is what square what's the square footage of this building a 45,000 square feet 165 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:33,120 45,000 square foot buildings gonna have to be 70% glazed just on the front facade just right right 166 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,800 I'm a facade, but still 70% that would have to be glazed 167 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Yeah, and they did show that where it possibly could be achieved, but they did remove some glazing 168 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,340 We got it pretty cool for that, but it did come close 169 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:48,700 Well, the conversations that I have had with Walmart actually have been very complimentary 170 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:49,180 of staff. 171 00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:51,160 And so, so thank you for ordering them. 172 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,260 But it was, it's a great point that the PUD is the reason. 173 00:16:55,620 --> 00:17:00,280 So, is it true, then, Ms. Brass, that if this were not a PUD, maybe I've already asked this 174 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,260 when we asked one more time, if this were not a PUD, what they are requesting would have 175 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,400 been within staff's discretion to approve? 176 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,920 It would keep in mind it still would be a site development plan with architectural review. 177 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,600 So it would come before planning commission, regardless though, because it would be a site 178 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,060 development plan for approval. 179 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Yes. 180 00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:23,000 They're very inquest. 181 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:28,480 They wouldn't be able to ask for deviations, but they could ask for alternative compliance. 182 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:35,780 But again, to the point being made, if it was something that they asked staff for alternative 183 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:37,640 compliance, it's really a kind of a substitution. 184 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,340 what are you substituting for not providing the glazing? A staff is able to do that. But again, 185 00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:46,640 because it's a PUD, we don't have that authority to make that decision. That makes sense. I guess the 186 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:53,400 point is if they met everything, it will come before this five. Yeah, exactly. But this is the one 187 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,480 vice mayor that I believe it's the same property where we actually went back and forth on the 188 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:06,560 PUD versus the zone. And I think you made the point that was rightfully made that if we had 189 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,700 re-zoned it and taken it out of the bud that they could have gone in there and straight 190 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:16,200 zoned it to some of whatever the appropriate residential would have been, and so keeping 191 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,140 it in a bud sort of protected that from happening on the other hand now and around about 192 00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:26,520 way, it's almost slowing it down a little bit, but I mean it's like paying for an insurance 193 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,180 policy almost. 194 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:33,580 That did create your ordinance amendment though that limits multi-family within so many 195 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:39,340 hundred feet of an arterial. So if that was come up today there would be more 196 00:18:39,340 --> 00:18:43,640 protection from what the concerns were at council for cars and the multi-family 197 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,560 taking over that parcel. In other words the vice mayor's concern about the 198 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,160 residential piece would have been maybe obviated as a result of the update. Yes 199 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:58,420 sir I think it's 300 feet I think. 400 feet. So 400 feet. We were worried about it 200 00:18:58,420 --> 00:19:03,320 turned into another car. That's right. Well that was the one north in the 201 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:09,600 Yeah, but actually both yeah, I mean remember they wanted to put a car wash. I think somewhere in there 202 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,620 They could've easily put a car wash on there. So you're actually more worried about the commercial what the commercial is going to be 203 00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:18,800 We're getting what we're getting what the residents won't yeah, it's just taking a little harder 204 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:24,980 But they will do y'all know they will do what they we ask them to do. Yeah, it's come a long ways 205 00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:29,660 Yeah, yeah, a lot of ways and I don't know if they're really complaining that much or just 206 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:42,460 I think a lot of people in this area are really excited about the grocery store option. 207 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,500 And if I'm hearing people excited about a grocery store, to me, that means there's probably 208 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:48,440 a lot of need up in there. 209 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,500 Which I did highlight. 210 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,740 I mean, it did seem like they want to feel confident that when they come to planning commission, 211 00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:55,280 that it'll be a recommended approval. 212 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:57,240 That was something that was of concern to them. 213 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:12,480 I did let them know in the past strategic plan, I do believe there was a grocery store in the north side was in the strategic plan so it kind of meets an overarching goal and vision, but I think the zoning code has everything laid out so it's very cut and clear. 214 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,380 I think sometimes and challenges with puds as historically it has been. 215 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,600 It's kind of an unbeknown what are they going to like, what are they not going to like, but in this case we have the code. 216 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,800 basically says what are they doing, what they're not doing, so of course it's about it with the 217 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,240 new zoning code outlining the standards. This may not be the place to ask but you know kind of 218 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,240 on the note of what we're discussing here with it being a put versus it has straight zoning and maybe 219 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,700 staff could have had to a little bit more freedom to approve some things. Maybe ultimately what I'm 220 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:47,880 concerned or curious about is the quality of what we're going to get. Is it about the same if no 221 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,640 matter which is on it would have been? I mean you know we're going to end results going to be about 222 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:58,260 The design standards albeit the glazing requirements, very similar same 223 00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:04,120 articulation material standards, internal dry frontage standards, parking lot, 224 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,280 landscaping standards, it's very similar to the two zoning districts. 225 00:21:10,690 --> 00:21:15,330 And just so the vice-mariner is now Walmart was not complaining at all. 226 00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:19,390 In fact, and I don't know if who I've been speaking with is who you all have worked 227 00:21:19,390 --> 00:21:24,610 but it's their director of real estate and they were actually very, very complimentary. 228 00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:29,330 I was just when they were explaining, they were updating me on why they were requesting 229 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:34,130 a deferral and I've talked them throughout the project and they just mentioned some of those 230 00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:38,090 things that made me sort of question, all right, I was thinking we had sort of solve that, 231 00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:42,250 but the point is she makes perfect sense of allowing me to sort of reeducate on that. 232 00:21:42,790 --> 00:21:44,410 So I'd make the motion to the far. 233 00:21:44,410 --> 00:21:51,610 second. I have a motion, a second. Vice Mayor, any further discussion? Let's see, now we'll call the vote. 234 00:21:52,810 --> 00:21:54,530 Here, make room. Uh-huh. 235 00:21:55,790 --> 00:21:56,350 Aye. 236 00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:57,770 Stand up. 237 00:21:57,970 --> 00:21:58,250 Aye. 238 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:59,470 This is the floor. 239 00:21:59,750 --> 00:22:00,030 Aye. 240 00:22:00,830 --> 00:22:01,210 No. 241 00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:01,910 Aye. 242 00:22:02,350 --> 00:22:03,410 Item is deferred. 243 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,110 It brings us to other business. 244 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:06,390 business. 245 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:19,090 It looks like we do have one public comment signed up here, Mr. Moore. 246 00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:24,990 We're going to come forward, state your name, and you'll have your three minutes to 247 00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:27,530 reinforce before this commission. 248 00:22:28,190 --> 00:22:28,550 Thank you. 249 00:22:28,670 --> 00:22:34,650 I have some handouts to give, but I'm from Taylor Landing, and I appreciate you giving 250 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:41,430 an opportunity to speak here. But I spoke the last time about Taylor landing and we had 251 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:47,430 a lot of problems. And I'm really, I really came here because of the bonds, but I want 252 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:51,130 to make sure that you know what's going on with Taylor landings. You don't release these 253 00:22:51,130 --> 00:22:57,750 bonds before, you know, they should be because there appears to be some clear violations 254 00:22:57,750 --> 00:23:03,430 of the site construction plan, the stormwater maintenance plan, and building safety regulations. 255 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:11,970 And the city, according to my correspondence, Mr. Keltner and Mr. Hartford, they never really 256 00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:16,790 verified the topsoil depth, but this is a component of the site construction plan and 257 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:17,790 the soil stabilization. 258 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:23,850 The inspections that they talked about only checked the presence of vegetation, sea 259 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:30,550 germination and straw, but the regulation states that certificates of occupancy shall not 260 00:23:30,550 --> 00:23:35,470 be issued until soil is stabilized in accordance with the approved construction plans. 261 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:40,610 And as I said, the approved construction plans for tailor landing drafted by Reagan Smith 262 00:23:40,610 --> 00:23:46,830 for marriage required six inches of topsoil for grass and nine inch layers for trees and shrubs. 263 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:52,650 And this was not optional. And the soil tests that we confirmed only had one to three inches of topsoil. 264 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:58,270 So they skimped on the topsoil. And this we believe has led to landscaping failures, erosion, 265 00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:01,950 and likely pollution of a jurisdictional wetland in the Duck River. 266 00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:08,470 Marriage still has nearly $350,000 in bonds across six open bonds and six incomplete 267 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:09,090 punchlists. 268 00:24:09,870 --> 00:24:16,810 And we found in the last month that 6% of the homes have had electrical fires or hazards 269 00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:19,490 and many more reported miswiring issues. 270 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:24,350 And so the state's fire marshal's office is now investigating their potential missing 271 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:33,010 permits and inspections related to the fire and electrical inspections and the city when 272 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:39,310 they did a walk through last year they discovered debris in a jurisdictional wetland last October but 273 00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:44,430 apparently the notices were never sent to marriage but they were promised that they would be sent 274 00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:50,830 and the debris apparently remains there today I also sold debris personally and the city 275 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:57,110 has apparently not notified T-deck of this authorized discharge and we've 276 00:24:57,110 --> 00:25:00,610 learned that the city is now working with marriage on a massive old Zion 277 00:25:00,610 --> 00:25:04,550 development which I guess is going to be much larger than even Taylor 278 00:25:04,550 --> 00:25:09,350 landing so my question is why is the city entertaining new projects with with 279 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:14,390 marriage when marriage has violated so many of the construction plans at Taylor 280 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:20,050 landing and also the city regulations they will unsafe homes with 6% 6% of 281 00:25:20,050 --> 00:25:26,790 electrical fires or hazards in the homes, 6% of the homes. That's not normal, so I 282 00:25:26,790 --> 00:25:30,650 ask you before any release any more bonds or approve anything else for marriage, 283 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:35,370 that you please enforce our site construction plan and our stormwater maintenance agreements 284 00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:40,890 and you get this situation cleaned up. Marriage must complete all of its outstanding work before 285 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:46,370 being allowed to exit this development, including, I believe, reinstallation of all our landscaping, 286 00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:50,010 giving us the correct six to nine inches of top soil that was in the construction 287 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:54,750 plan that the regulation required so that our soil would be stabilized and we 288 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:58,770 won't be polluting the duck river and our jurisdiction for wetland. So I thank 289 00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:02,210 you very much and I think that homeowners should not be left with all these 290 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:06,690 costly repairs and all of these problems just because the city didn't enforce its 291 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,590 own regulations. Thank you. 292 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:33,690 inspection is an idea to be done before that is done. It's in here. Normal to do list it anyway. 293 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:46,420 So, I make a question. So, I believe that the 350,000 could be used to help some of this 294 00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:51,320 problem. Make marriage, make care of some of these. The street, washing out on that side. 295 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:56,480 Yeah, so the letter of credit covers all the construction, 296 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,220 completed construction for the product. 297 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,160 What would you enforce? 298 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:07,920 We give them plenty of notice and plenty of ability to do it. 299 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,200 It's been through the winter, so they were asking for better weather to do some of the work. 300 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:22,940 But we give them notice, give them 30, 69 days, and then we can call the letter of credit if need be. 301 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Okay, I mean I didn't leave that up to you. I had to work on this, but I'll let them take Mr. Moore can kind of understand the process that we're doing. Now the electrical stuff, the city is not responsible for that. 302 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:48,400 There's nothing we can do about that because the state's got their own inspectors on that. Now what's y'all done right there is probably, unfortunately you had to do that, but we can't do anything about the letter. 303 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,160 But so Mr. Harper seems to be going on the road that y'all need. 304 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,160 Now I can tell you this up front that six to nine inches of top soul. 305 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,980 I've been thinking about that. 306 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:02,120 I don't know how to solve it. 307 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280 I mean, they might work something out with marriage. 308 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,460 It makes everybody happy or, like the mayor says, make bow people mad so that's a good agreement. 309 00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:17,940 But that would be, but I think Gleen is going, or Mr. Harper is going in the right direction. 310 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:29,620 I'm going to release the 350 unless the things I see will just kind of stay with them and hopefully it'll go the way you want it. 311 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,260 Okay. Thank you. 312 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:32,900 Thank you. 313 00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:33,920 Thanks for having us more. 314 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 I'll say your other discussion. 315 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Is that the other business? 316 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,460 I don't know. 317 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:42,780 I'll take a motion to adjourn. 318 00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:46,340 Second. 319 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,220 Second, motion. 320 00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:50,870 Discussion on that, we'll follow the book. 321 00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:53,920 Ah. 322 00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:56,540 Aye. 323 00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:58,970 Aye. 324 00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:01,340 Aye. 325 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:02,060 Second. 326 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:02,920 Aye. 327 00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:03,920 Meeting adjourned. 328 00:29:14,090 --> 00:29:14,410 What do you know? 329 00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:16,510 What do you know? 330 00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:17,850 What do you know? 331 00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:19,170 What do you know? 332 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:19,610 What do you know? 333 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:19,770 What do you know? 334 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:21,190 What do you know? 335 00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:23,490 What do you know? 336 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:25,230 What do you know? 337 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,040 Yeah. 338 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,920 Yeah. 339 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:35,100 Yeah.