1 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:25,280 Am I running this cuz I'm the senior? >> I Yeah, I would say so. 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:31,800 » So called to order of the BAA at the 7:00 p.m. on 3 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,800 September 9th, 2026. 4 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:39,160 Roll call. We have Thomas Carrier a member. 5 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,880 And we have Phil Stone, of course. 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:47,240 And Keith Peck. We uh 7 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 which is a quorum. >> Yes. 8 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:54,040 » And uh to my knowledge, no additions or 9 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,440 changes to the agenda other than moving up 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 the uh election of officers. >> Okay. 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,040 » So >> Motion to do that if you like. 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,960 » Is there a motion to move up the election of officers? 13 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Agenda item. >> I make a motion to move up the election 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,680 of officers. >> We have a second. 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:15,880 » Second. >> We have a motion and second. We're going 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,880 to move up the uh election of officers. 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Board chair. Help me with language. 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:28,360 » You simply just have Someone has to make a motion to nominate someone. 19 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,800 » I'll make a motion to nominate Phil Stone. 20 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,160 » I second that. 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,520 » Do we have one to pick another now? >> We will accept the nomination. 22 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,520 » Yes. 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:47,200 » We're all done. >> We love to like kiss. 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,520 » All in favor of electing Phil Stone. >> I. 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,520 » I. 26 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Thank you. Thank you, for this. Motion 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,080 carried. >> All right. So, this might be your 28 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:09,039 applicant I'm assuming online. >> Hello, do we have an applicant online? 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:14,080 » I see a hand. >> We don't hear you. Maybe unmute if 30 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:19,840 that's an option. >> I see a unmute button there. 31 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:23,720 » Okay. Good afternoon. Good evening. Can you hear me? 32 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:28,880 » Yes, we can hear you. >> Hi, my name is that March says I'm 33 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:35,480 sorry. I tried to join the Zoom meeting online, but it says the meeting does not 34 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:39,800 exist. So, I'm using my phone instead. >> Okay, well, you've been successful. 35 00:02:39,959 --> 00:02:46,520 » Well, that's a good thing. So, um 36 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Do you have a question for me? Um where I live, why did I appeal? I 37 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,920 don't know. What you'd like to know? >> Uh before we 38 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:02,200 get you to get to you on the agenda, the next agenda is approval of minutes. 39 00:03:00,519 --> 00:03:05,400 » Oh, okay. I understand how that works. So, I'll be quiet until then. 40 00:03:03,959 --> 00:03:10,000 » Yeah, we'll we'll get back to you. >> We have none to approve cuz we do not 41 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:13,280 have enough members present here that was at that meeting. So, 42 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:17,200 » So, we will pass over the approval of minutes and get to the appeal hearing. 43 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,320 We have a motor vehicle appeal from you that's 44 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Martis. Hopefully, I'm not damaging 45 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,880 name too much. And 46 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,480 » it's all right. >> Okay. 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:38,840 And we've got your appeal 48 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:46,760 disregards a 2014 Ford Edge Select. Is that what that SEL is? 49 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:51,240 » Yes, SEL stands for Select. Yes. >> Um 50 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:57,360 and if you could state your name and address for us, just to 51 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:05,440 » Of course. My name is Yvette Martens. I reside at 16 Wildwood Drive, 52 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Columbia, Connecticut, 06237. 53 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:13,800 » Okay. Thank you. Uh and 54 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:19,600 perhaps give us just your We have your application, obviously, but of your 55 00:04:16,239 --> 00:04:22,840 appeal, but if you just give us your uh uh 56 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:25,760 brief on it. >> Certainly. Um 57 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,560 so we initially looked at the value of our 58 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:36,320 egg uh as a trade-in. Um and that is how I 59 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:40,680 got to the point of understanding the Kelley Blue Book. Um 60 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:47,919 and when I went on to evaluate the value, 61 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:52,440 they do ask for any damages that are cosmetic. Um we have a door that the 62 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:59,240 passenger the passenger No. The um 63 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:04,200 driver's side door, which is banged. Um we have a side view mirror that 64 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,080 someone tried to knock off. And 65 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,560 um there are some electrical issues that 66 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:15,400 the as a driver of the car, you know, you 67 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:20,400 learn the idiosyncrasies of your vehicle, so you bang or you move or you 68 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:27,160 do something to get things to move. So, I felt that the 69 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:33,800 value that was placed by the county uh or by the town on my car 70 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:38,680 was not was not uh cognizant of 71 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,640 these other issues of the car, and therefore, 72 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:45,000 um the value 73 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:50,360 that I put into my form reflects those cosmetic and electrical issues, 74 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,800 and therefore lowered the value of the car. 75 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:57,040 And I was using the Kelley Blue Book as my resource. 76 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,000 » Okay, thank you for that. >> Thank you. 77 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Mhm. >> Uh 78 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,480 so I'm I'm going to read something you know, you probably are knowledgeable 79 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:12,920 about this, but we have we're very limited in terms of what we can do in 80 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:17,000 terms of evaluation. Uh cuz we're this is 81 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:21,720 governed by statute. So I'm going to kind of read what that 82 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:25,680 involves. So all municipalities must use the same method which is prescribed in 83 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:29,160 statutes to determine the value of a personal motor vehicle for property tax 84 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,659 purposes. Previously the law required the Office 85 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,640 of Policy and Management >> [clears throat] 86 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:40,360 » to select the method. Beginning with uh the 2024 assessment 87 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:45,880 year, vehicles are instead generally valued using their manufacturer's 88 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:52,120 suggested real retail price reduced according to the age of the vehicle. 89 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:58,120 By law, motor vehicles are assessed at example taxed on 70% of this value. 90 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Municipalities and special taxing districts set their own tax rates, but 91 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:08,840 cannot set them higher than a statutory cap currently at 32.46 mills. 92 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,960 The law specifies that taxpayers may appeal the MSRP used to value their 93 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:19,640 vehicles. So so really we are governed by these 94 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:25,840 statutes, so we can't take into account you know, damage or you know, 95 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:32,000 uh mechanical problems. We basically uh can only go by the statutes which is 96 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:35,400 based on MSRP. So the really your only uh 97 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:41,040 way for us to consider changing this is if the MSRP is 98 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:45,680 it was incorrect. And we uh if you could read what we have there. 99 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:51,720 » Now, the MSRP that we're showing from the motor 100 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,720 vehicle is 33,250. 101 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Uh the um assessment value on that is 6980. 102 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:06,520 So, we cannot move any of those figures at 103 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:11,280 all with that because those are set by the state of 104 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Connecticut. So, we cannot adjust 105 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:19,760 » So, I'm I wasn't aware of that. So, what is 106 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,880 the purpose of the appeals process? If because it sounds like I have no 107 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,040 recourse. >> You do have a recourse. 108 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:31,720 » Well, if the MSRP was incorrect, if we were valuing off the wrong MSRP. 109 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:39,080 So, that really is the only uh you know, argument, if you will, 110 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:39,080 whether this MSRP was correct. 111 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:49,240 » So, I got to have a jalopy and if the MSRP says it's a particular value, 112 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:54,720 that's all that the state recognizes and so as a resident of the state, I have no 113 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:59,839 other recourse. That's pretty much what I'm understanding. Am I correct? 114 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:03,680 » Yes, unless the MSRP was incorrect and we're valued valuing it off the wrong 115 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:10,280 MSRP. But that doesn't seem to be the case 116 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,280 here as as as far as we can tell. 117 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,960 » No, I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing the value of the car. 118 00:09:14,136 --> 00:09:17,480 » [laughter] >> Yeah, again, 119 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:22,520 » And that's what I thought. >> you know, we're very limited with what, 120 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:27,200 you know, how we can alter that. You know, we just you know, as you say, what 121 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:31,000 is the value of the appeal process? You know, if for some reason the MSRP were 122 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:35,240 incorrect, if we were valued off the wrong MSRP, you could bring that to our 123 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:38,880 attention and we could fix that. But beyond that, we 124 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,720 we are not uh don't have the wherewithal to be able 125 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 to >> No, I get it. 126 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,720 » Yeah. >> No, no, I understand. I do understand 127 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:54,000 that. And I guess that concludes our discussion 128 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:59,600 cuz there's not much more to be done. >> Yes, thank you. Appreciate you coming 129 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:04,400 on and at least giving us your your viewpoint. 130 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:07,800 » Well, I just there must be some value in that, right? 131 00:10:06,536 --> 00:10:11,160 » [laughter] >> All right. Well, thank you so much. You 132 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,400 have a nice evening. Thank you very much. 133 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,760 » Thank you, Nina. >> Thank you. You as well, Eva. 134 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,320 Goodnight. Bye-bye. >> Goodnight. 135 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:24,000 » Thank you. >> Uh concluding the appeal hearing. 136 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Uh set possible special September meeting date for appeal decisions if 137 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:33,960 needed. Do we have a suggested date? >> Uh the the calendar Oh, actually you 138 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,680 don't need a special meeting. Nothing to carry on with. 139 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,880 » Uh discuss and act upon 2027 BAA meeting schedule. 140 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,640 » Yes, this is it. >> So, we have those 141 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:52,960 » dates are finalized. 142 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:56,560 » As put into record, we have 2027 meeting dates. 143 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Do I need to list these words? >> No, I want to say the dates were 144 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,360 approved by all three of you all. You just have to motion to approve. 145 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:08,520 » I'll make a motion to approve. >> Two, one in March and one in September. 146 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,839 » If somebody has an appeal. >> That's it. 147 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,360 » Yeah. >> That's it. 148 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,560 » It's it's light lifting. >> Okay. 149 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:21,520 » Um Uh is there a motion to 150 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:23,600 accept these meeting dates? >> I'll make a motion. 151 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,640 » Yes. Uh 152 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,720 » I'll make a motion to accept the dates. >> Motion made, motion seconded. All in 153 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,440 favor, I. >> I. 154 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,320 » I. Opposed? 155 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,320 None. 156 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,200 » And I would just say for the record on the appeals you might just want to state 157 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,720 for the record that it has been denied officially. 158 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,760 » Okay. Uh the 159 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:52,120 appeal that came from Yvette Marches 160 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:55,520 has been denied based on no changes to the MSRP. 161 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,440 » And there's just the adjournment and then you know 162 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:06,280 » Uh So we did uh motion to adjourn. 163 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 » Done. 164 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,360 » Motion made, motion seconded. All in favor? 165 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,120 » I. >> I. 166 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,680 » So we don't need a dental mark. >> Correct. 167 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,680 » That's not correct.