1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:15,080 um yeah a couple things um is uh G GJ Louie Inc are they still under contract 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:22,680 the city of as far as the social Source 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:28,960 developer right now that I would have to say no the judge rule that we were that 4 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:34,280 we were not legally able to enter into that agreement and gj3 filed an appeal 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:38,360 in the pellet court but at this point judge has ruled that we did not have the 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,160 right to sign that document so I would say no that that uh document does not 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:48,760 exist at this point second question is uh the first 8 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:54,359 page we have listed uh the city of columb is proposing a new 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:58,920 interchange on 255 provide access to a plan makes to use commercial development 10 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:03,720 it's going across development now currently 11 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:08,960 uh that is not the case correct there there's not currently 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:14,600 development that is there unless that is proposed 13 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:19,000 there under that specific name right who knows well for if we were to pass this 14 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:23,360 tonight and their names on it what liability is that posed to us absolutely 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:30,840 none whatsoever I spoke before went S I do and she said that once again that's 16 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:36,600 why I explained if you look at the fifth um whereas down and starts talking about 17 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:42,079 public growth and ass and Associated rways within the AP and the development 18 00:01:38,759 --> 00:01:46,960 of lots within the AP this all stems around the area of potential effect that 19 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:51,560 was set forth when we wanted the final access justification they did not look 20 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,799 at the development they just happened since there was a development ongoing 21 00:01:53,159 --> 00:02:02,159 they put that as as a name in it but the development isn't the key here the key 22 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:08,520 here is the area of potential effect and that area was set forth by shipo iarp 23 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:13,680 idot and federal highways they're the ones that the outline of the AP and the 24 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:17,879 outline at the AP is totally different than the outline that we set forth in 25 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:23,760 the master development agreement was previously agreed upon with the 26 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:29,280 developer in the city so so would it be a problem to take that name 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:34,000 off I don't see a reason to I don't see a problem with but I don't see a reason 28 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,000 to it's just a delay 29 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:41,080 TCH it's not trying to delay I anytime I I do a work on a contract anytime 30 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,680 anyone's name is mentioned anywhere on a contract they're you know they have the 31 00:02:43,239 --> 00:02:48,400 potential to be brought up in something so I if they're not mentioned in here I 32 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:54,120 don't see a reason why they would be 33 00:02:51,040 --> 00:03:00,959 problem I was I I was going to be request be more delegate change from is 34 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,959 to was 35 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:11,040 SEC as far as I'm concerned the development can it's it's the 36 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:16,360 development known as the we know that area and what's going to be developed 37 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:20,799 down there as the colal crossing devel it's it's been known that way for 38 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,840 5 years now doesn't say it has to 39 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:41,080 be all in in 1B on 527 on the screen it it looks like when they say includes all 40 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:45,280 portions of the proposed Columbia cross development as described in then it 41 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:51,879 talks about reference or attached documents to clearly dep the project 42 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:58,799 boundaries it sounds like Al that they're using this as the best way to 43 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:02,560 describe the area it says proposed and it say our attached document that 44 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:09,319 clearly describes PS the 45 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:16,840 project I mean this is probably this would probably be I'm guessing would be 46 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:16,840 the easiest way to depict the 47 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:28,160 area that's why I was and that's the discussion I I had the same discussion 48 00:04:24,919 --> 00:04:32,360 with Laura renson from i take exactly what you brought up I figured it would 49 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:36,479 be and I had that discussion with Laur and and she said that she did not see 50 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:38,840 that the way the verbage is in here it it's a 51 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:50,120 reference I was just wondering you spoke with rining and all these these various 52 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:54,160 um people about the the PA I'm just wondering do we have any of that 53 00:04:51,840 --> 00:05:00,680 documented and writing for any of us to read so we can we can 54 00:04:56,479 --> 00:05:04,280 verify what was actually discussed I know but i' like now it's recording I 55 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,730 know but I'd still like to see it writing from 56 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:12,809 dist no I [Music] 57 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:21,960 don't any other question you just to confirm the term Colombia Crossing is a 58 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:26,759 trademark that is 59 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:33,039 correct I don't know whether it is it was our colia Crossing we entitled 60 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:39,880 wetit to the name I can see that just want to effect 61 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:45,319 that does have this docum I don't know that there's ever 62 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:50,639 been a formal firing of a trademark in that I've never seen a trademark at TM 63 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,319 see the circle around it next to that name there a lot of contract there's a 64 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,319 corporation 65 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,639 name call it the CCA a corporation out there that 66 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:08,199 doesn't mean that we're stealing the trademark 67 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:12,479 need all around um there's there's a lot of questions here tonight I don't have a 68 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:17,160 problem with the PA as long as we pursue a Federal Highway Bill and try to get 69 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:21,160 the government to pay for this um but I do think I mean none of us are attorneys 70 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:26,240 up here I don't think it' hurt to run some of these questions by Tom 71 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:30,919 or uh get a legal opinion from Wayne or some attorney that might think some of 72 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:36,479 verbage the agreement should be changed for whatever reason whether it's uh 73 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:41,479 copyright or U I think we should 74 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:46,680 take until we get some you know some of our Answers by but 75 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:51,800 all these answers were answered by the attorneys back in August I mean this 76 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:56,800 well but being the being the lawsuit was thrown out I mean maybe maybe there is a 77 00:06:53,840 --> 00:07:00,199 thing that that that Columbia pres name shouldn't be in there I'm just saying I 78 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:03,720 don't know I think think any of us no we're not attorneys well I'll tell you 79 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:07,319 this if we start monkeying with this then we're going to go all the way back 80 00:07:04,919 --> 00:07:09,479 through the process again it it's ready to 81 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:17,280 go I mean it's just like when we start bringing up the names of Chiefs and and 82 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:21,520 tribes it was just a way to go back through the process again and we did it 83 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:26,720 over and over and over again and it cost a lot of money in attorney 84 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:31,520 feeds it's ready to go we we discussed it today 85 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:40,960 well I just I just think some things have changed since the last time it was 86 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:45,199 discussed last September so um I I don't think we want to vote on 87 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,680 something that's important with guessing and not being sure what complete 88 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:53,919 ramifications may be so I don't think it would be such a bad thing if Alderman ay 89 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:59,919 would call an opz meeting on last time for us to discuss it and then move 90 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:03,879 forward after we can discuss it tonight and that's that was just on my mind 91 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:08,800 because you know we are taking the time to literate tonight to have OPC meetings 92 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:16,599 and uh because I thought if these questions were answered that U uh the 93 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:20,000 OPC would not be necessary but I just I I think we should ask the question of 94 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:24,520 the Columbia Crossing thing and since we've had an obz meeting tonight that 95 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:28,800 would be the only question with with ask to and if that question is satisfied 96 00:08:27,159 --> 00:08:32,880 then we can go through with a vote on the 15th 97 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:36,760 is that the only question though Iain a motion to approve it or give me the 98 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:42,320 authority to to sign it with Tom reviewing the verbage of 99 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:42,320 colia 100 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Crossing I'm sorry all be over you have something to add yeah I don't understand 101 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:53,160 what the big hurry is you're pushing pushing pushing pushing it's a simple 102 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:57,560 question I just want to just to see the big hurry this has been going on for 103 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:02,920 longer than you were an Al then if you can answer the question yes or no 104 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,519 whether or not that should be in there I you're a better attorney than any of us 105 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:11,440 in this room I told you I spoke with idot and she didn't not have that's not 106 00:09:09,079 --> 00:09:15,959 talking about I it's talking about an attorney's but see last time we got an 107 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:21,839 attorney's opinion we wanted a second attorney so I I mean we can play this 108 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,839 gamees to c