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Earlier in the afternoon and isn't one of the questions of what time you actually want to start. Normally we've been starting those in the last year or two at about four o'clock and then go into the evening for however long it takes. But again, that's your decision as a body when you want to get together at what time. And then October 18 is when you open the public hearings for

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or not only the city's budget, but also the NIGID, the ECAGID, and the ERAGID, all of those general improvement districts along with the Urban Renewal Authority.

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And so, it's budget hearing is opened, and then typically, again, you're not required to do this, but typically what we do then is

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What's the proper word? We suspend it or we hold it in bayons until the following

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Meeting on November 1st at which point again, you ask for additional comment from the public and

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Close it at that time and then act on the budget to either adopt or

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Hopefully you adopt

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What would happen if they failed to adopt a budget?

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The old ones

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continues for another year then, right?

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That has not happened in my history with the city,

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but yes, the charter says that they would officially

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then go with the prior years.

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But yeah.

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So again, you have choices, but sometimes there aren't

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good choices.

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So that's the process.

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And again, we are presenting this.

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It's my recommendation to you.

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But again, it's meant to be a conversation.

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and you get to direct us in terms of you know what you think should be in that budget.

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Now in terms of the budget process it establishes a link to the broad council goals and that's why

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we came to you earlier to ask you about the goals for 2022 because that informs our budget process

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us because we can't accomplish your goals if we don't budget for accomplishing those goals.

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So again, trying to focus the budget on not only carrying out the routine work of the

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city, but also what are your goals that you've established for the organization.

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And then the budget decisions are based on results and outcomes that you want.

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and for example during the pandemic we dealt with the pandemic we cut the

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revenue projection for last year it was reduced this year as well not as much

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as last year but was reduced and so again we have to respond to the economic

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conditions that are going on in the nation but at the same time we're still

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attempting to hit your high priority areas in terms of service needs, projects, that type

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of thing. And then the other purpose of a budget is to communicate to the public, our

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stakeholders, you know, what's the emphasis of council and what we're trying to achieve

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by budgeting for that purpose. From there, I'll turn it over to Cheryl, you're prepared

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right for the rest? All right.

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All right, back in business, sorry about that. Next

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slides, talk about the key considerations of the 2022 budget. So I'll elaborate a bit

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on what Mr. Tinklinberg has started talking about, but certainly in the information we're

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going to present tonight, one of the things we wanted to do was address the staffing needs

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across the organization. As part of addressing those staffing needs, we have to evaluate and

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prioritized critical service areas and levels based on the goals that City Council provided to us.

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Certainly want to continue to invest in our capital, strategically, which includes new capital,

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but also the repair maintenance of our existing infrastructure. And then a goal of ours is always to

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attract and retain high quality employees.

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Our fund balance is currently healthy. We are

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a recommending continued conservative approach to spending and saving for the 2022 City Manager recommended budget.

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We are going to be presenting the use.

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It's a fund balance of about $1.3 million. The majority of that is in one time expenditures. Additional slides here in a few moments. I'll go over that in detail. The additions to base were included for known contractual increases. Let me talk two minutes about the base budget. About three or four years ago, we adopted a base budget philosophy. So we work with department heads to identify what their minimum amount is needed to operate their department's

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divisions. In some years we have applied an inflation factor to base. That has not happened

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for the last two years. However, throughout the conversations we have with the department

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heads and their staff and my internal budget staff, we identify areas that would impact the

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base that really are an obligation of ours and we have to increase that base. So we have

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accounted for those items.

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For our internal service funds which is comprised of our fleet

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ITN facilities. The preliminary numbers have been updated, but those numbers will continue

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to change as we approve some of these budget requests that we'll be talking to you about.

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The initial budget request that came in from the departments was just shy of $7.4 million

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and the city managers with the input from the deputy city managers were recommending use

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of about or approval of about 5.1 million in those requests. And we're going to go through

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those in detail. I would like to take a quick minute and pause, and I'm going to apologize.

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I meant to do this right out of the gate with COVID last year. I didn't get the opportunity

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to introduce my budget team. So they are here tonight. I wanted to just acknowledge and introduce

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them to you. So Theresa Wilson is my deputy finance director. She's been here a little over a year,

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comes to us with over 20 years of budget experience. Been a great addition to my team.

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Angela Burgos is one of my business budget analysts and then Chris Johnson is my other

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budget analyst.

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He's on vacation so unfortunately he's not here but I just wanted to acknowledge all

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the work they do.

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A lot of collaboration has gone into this process so far and they're really key to making

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all of this come together so I just wanted to acknowledge them and I hope you'll have

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an opportunity to actually meet them tonight.

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Thanks for letting me do that.

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Okay, just as a reminder, one to talk to you about fund balance in our reserve policy.

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So we are required by law or contract to reserve fund balance for various reasons.

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There are three types of reserves.

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can be maintained according to adopted policies.

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As a reminder, any use of fund balance reserves must be approved by City Council.

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So typically, when we bring a reappropriation ordinance to you, which we have done a few

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of those here in the past few weeks, that is use of fund balance reserve.

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The three that we do on an annual basis are the TABER reserve, which is required by

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law.

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It's 3% of fiscal spending.

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There are some items that are subtracted from that.

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That is a calculation that finance performs every year, and then a amount can change based

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on the expenditures in that year.

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The next is our safeguard reserve policy, which is 10% of expenditures, including capital

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improvement funds, and 50% of debt service.

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And that is intended to be used for operations or payment of debt service in the event that

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our revenues are not coming in.

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They can only, safeguard reserves can only be used for a few things.

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You can see listed natural disasters, acts of terrorism or war riots, similar emergencies.

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Then we have our operating reserves, which is a little more flexible, that is 50%, I'm

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sorry, 10% of our operating and expenditures, that can be used for an economic downturn.

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So for example, when COVID-19 first identified itself, and we work with department heads to

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identify potential cuts that we might have to do, if we would not have been able to identify

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and work within our budgets to be able to manage those, we could have come to City Council

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and asked for approval to use the operating reserve for that.

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We did not have to do that, but that certainly could have been a possibility and that's

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an item that would have qualified.

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So 2020, we, a couple of weeks ago, presented the 2020 financial statement information and

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part of that is the general fund fund balance.

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So overall, I mentioned to you that our fund balance reserves are very healthy, the total

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fund balance for general fund at the end of 2020 was just over $83 million.

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This slide shows you a breakdown of that.

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So, Gatsby 54 tells us which buckets we have to reserve our fund balance in.

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Again, these are calculations that we perform every year once we have determined.

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We're going to count it for all revenues and expenditures within the general fund. So, with our inventory prepaid items, we had about 268,000. The restricted items, those items that I just mentioned to you, table reserved, that 3% was just shy of 3 million. 2K capital, lay in operation. So, the 1% revenue that is generated and revenue off of the other 2K amenities has to be reserved for infrastructure identified in the bond issue or the ongoing M.

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So at the end of 2020, that was just shy of 16 million.

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The safeguard and operating is reserve amounts that I just talked about are listed there

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for you.

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The designated operating reserve of, I'm sorry, the assigned defined contribution of 5.2 million,

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we have a retiree health insurance plan and that is the balance in that account so that

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has to be assigned because it is for an intended purpose.

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So the unassigned amount that you guys could elect to use and we're going to ask you to use

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some of that in the recommendation for the 2022 budget is $41.3 million.

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This slide here takes that $41 million because that is essentially where we are starting

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the 2021 year.

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But we have brought several ordinances to you for approval throughout the year already.

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We identify those on the monthly report that is sent to you to continue to remind you those

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items that have been approved.

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So out of the 41 million, you can see that we did identify a small amount of 1.9 million

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to be used to balance the 2021 budget. And then the various ordinance that have been presented

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to City Council for approval. So the amount remaining in the unassigned is 34.8 million.

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And then the 2K, that's the 15.9. And then we're for 2021, there was an appropriation to use 7.3 million

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which would take that 2K fund balance as we project now at the end of 21 to be 8.6 million.

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I will continue to move along, but certainly if there are questions, please let me know.

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So in the packet we have three documents called our source and use. So the source and use is the

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document that I identify as total general fund revenues and total general fund expenditures

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and the amount that is remaining. The first slide that was in your packet is the combined,

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which means this is our regular general fund amount plus the 2K.

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So we show you here at the top are our revenue sources.

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We're projecting those to be 99.7 million.

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We transfer money in from the Water Acquisition Fund.

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That covers the Series 2017-B Water Portfolio debt service payment.

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And then 2K allocation is based on the O&M policy for 2K expenditures

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that was identified when the ballot

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and issue initiative passed.

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So we have total revenue of about 1.5 million dollars.

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The expenditures that you see here are broken down

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by the various departments,

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and that is comprised of those base budgets

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that I talked about earlier.

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So these are the total amounts needed

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for the operations of the various departments.

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That includes salaries, benefits,

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their operating expenditures, office supplies operating, et cetera.

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And then there are various transfers that happen each year, out of general fund to various funds for multiple reasons.

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60,000 to the housing authority, the elected officials retirement fund.

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You see the various debt service that includes principal and

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interest on our various debt issues, 83,000 to the urban renewal authority.

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and then the CIP gets a small transfer based on the O&M policy.

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So that total is 93 million.

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So we're showing that we have about 7.4 million available in excess revenues to be able

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to use to consider those budget requests.

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The next two slides I'm not going to go over in as much detail, but what we wanted to show

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you is what the source and use looks like for regular general fund versus 2K.

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If you add these two together, it totals the combined on the front.

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So if we are talking about non-2K excess revenues over expenditures right now, we are showing

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just over $5 million available for consideration of the 2022 requests.

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For 2K, you will see that we are showing $2.4 million available of 2K excess revenues

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over expenditures to consider 2K-related 2022 requests.

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So this is a high-level summary of where

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There were kind of starting before we get into some of the position or the budget requests.

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So of that $5 million that is in the general fund doesn't include 2K, you considered a

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reappropriation ordinance that has been approved. That reappropriation ordinance for 2021 included

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several positions, salary, and benefits. Because those were approved, they are ongoing

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expenditures to the operations of the organization, so we have to consider that ongoing cost.

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that's $874,000. In addition, there were other reappropriation requests that were approved

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that do have an ongoing implication that are just not related to positions. That is

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another $604,000. So we had to back that out of the available amount because at the time

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we calculated the base budget, those of course were not considered.

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And then of the 2022 requests, I told you we got $7.4 million in requests, the city managers

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is recommending about 5.1 million, this amount is slightly different and that's because

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a portion that was requested has been identified to be used out of IT retained earnings.

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So the amount that is an implication to general fund is just shy of 5 million.

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So you can see considering all of those items that we have preliminarily said yes to, we

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are showing that we would need to use 1.3 million in general fund balance.

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And then the bottom portion of this shows the 2K related items.

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So that's the 2.4 million that I identified excess revenues over expenditures for 2K.

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There is one request that is 100% 2K eligible, $35,000.

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So then if we subtract that from the 2K fund balance, that would leave a remaining $2.3 million

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that would be added to the 2K fund balance at the end of 2022.

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This is a slide that we like to include so that you can see the changes that happen in the

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various departments in their base budgets.

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So keep in mind that if during the 2021

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Prague budget process, we approved requests.

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We determine if that has an ongoing implication

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which means it adds to their base in the next year

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or is it a one time cost that we then subtract out.

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So this is meant to show you what the 2021 adopted budget was

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and what we're telling you the 2022 base would be

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you can see the variance. The one area that sticks out here is certainly in the fleet department.

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You can see it appears that the fleet budget went down by almost $800,000. That is really

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attributed to the amount of vehicles that are purchased and requested any year. And when new

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vehicles are requested or replacement, that goes through a budget request process. So it isn't included

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as part of the base because it has not been approved yet. Once we get the initial nod that those

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are going to be approved, we will incorporate those and that base number would change for

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that reason.

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Bides, we broke down by the various departments so that we could identify at a high level

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what impacted the base in those areas, cases to salaries and benefit and get their performance

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evaluation.

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Some of those are the allocations from the internal service, proved in different years

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that can impact the allocation.

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Each of their budgets is considered in totality, and a percentage is charged off to the

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departments based on what they use.

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So for example, IT breaks down how many computers and other IT tech items we have, and they

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charge us an allocation, a percentage of their budget.

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Same thing happens with facility inflates.

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So allocations always fluctuate from year to year.

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And then you will see that in the majority of the departments, we did restore prior

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COVID-19 base budget decreases. We had a conversation with departments about, you know, was the reason

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you decreased it is because you were told, you know, to identify areas that you didn't have to

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spend because of the change in our operations. Some of those decreases did stay because departments

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determined they could operate that way, but for the majority of those COVID-19 previous decreases were

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are added back to the base budgets.

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You'll see there in community development,

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we're adding a plan or one.

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So the area that you see positions added,

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those were items went through on the reappropriation request.

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So, or they were approved at another point throughout the year.

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So again, we wanted to show you kind of high level

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what things impacted the base in some of the areas

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you can see it might have been a concern.

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Okay,

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so we're going to jump into department the various requests. I believe if you, Roger, correct

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me if you're wrong, if there are specific questions about the preliminary yeses or

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noes, then I believe the fine people on my right and left here are going to help answer

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those questions. So what happens with these enhancement requests are throughout the budget

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process early in the year. There are I think eight different forms that we send out to the

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departments and let them know it's time to be considering what you want to ask for in the new

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budget. These are things outside of their base. So it could be furniture or remodel request,

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it could be a new position, it could be a special what we call a special consideration item which

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is really intended to be a one-time cost for something. That happens early in the process.

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I want to say they were asked in April and May to submit those requests. There's a form

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depending on the type of request. All new positions after finance has looked at it,

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they get routed through our human resources department so they can verify that the salary and benefits

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identified were correct. If it's something that the fleet facility or IT folks need to look at,

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they have an opportunity to go through those requests and true up any costs in case there was

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something missing and then once those are finalized it comes back into finance for calculating.

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Once that's done we compile that list and we sent the initial list to both Mr. Rogers and

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Ms. Blakeman to be able to review, have discussions with their departments that they're responsible for

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and that's how the preliminary yeses came to be. Once I get into the slides you'll see that some of

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the slides indicate reappropriation beside it.

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So it might say no on the request,

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and that is because it was considered in 2021.

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Because of the timing of reappropriation

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and the budget request cycle,

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they kind of align together.

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Sometimes departments will put a request in both places

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to make sure that it's considered one way or the other.

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So we did try to identify those for you that are a no,

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but it's because it was approved as a reappropriation item.

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So, this is just a summary of the total of the requests.

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You can see it broken down by department, the amount of their total requests, and this,

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the grand total is just below that 7.4 million that I identified early in the presentation.

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Did you want to add something?

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Okay.

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So, we broke down the request by department, and then we gave you kind of a brief summary

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of what that request was, the request type, the total amount and the decision.

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We highlighted the yeses in green, the nose, and maybes are the preliminary decisions

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that were made.

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Here are a couple of examples of reappropriation items that say no on this list because

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they were approved on reappropriation.

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So for example, the permit tech supervisor, because that was approved on reappropriation

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for 2021. That is part of that ongoing cost that we had on that first slide to account

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for the positions and benefits for those approved positions.

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The, in the packet, I also

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included just the overall summary list. I didn't know if that might be easier to look

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at that list as opposed to the slides individually. So hopefully you found one or both of those

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helpful. I can continue to move on unless there's a specific question about community development

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that you wanted addressed.

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Okay. This next slide we combined legal and legislative on both of these

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slides. As Roger previously mentioned you are going to have an opportunity to discuss the legislative

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budget in detail. We listed the legislative item as a maybe because we knew that you wanted

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and would have an opportunity to discuss your budget in detail at a future meeting, but did want to list it here.

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City Manager's Office, you can see a variety of requests. There are a few items here that indicates that we said no on the reappropriation request.

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We can talk about that in more detail, but primarily based on timing and input that we received from the chief.

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We identified that as more information came to us, if this was identified as

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something that needed to be funded in 2021, there was a possibility of using

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contingency, which would then...

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Be brought to you in the future if that determination is made. That is why those particular items were listed as no.

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Human resources, you see, have they had a variety of requests. The three of their requests were approved. They're all new position related to try to address the various items that they feel they need to acquire in their department to be able to continue to reach, you know, as we mentioned. That was one of our key considerations to be able to attract and retain quality.

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staff. This is what Armando felt would serve that department the best in order to be able to do that.

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For IT, you can see they had four requests, preliminary yes to all of those items. And I mentioned

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earlier that one of their items was specifically identified to come out of our IT retained earnings,

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not out of general fund. That is that $193,000 item that is identified there.

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Park's recreation and

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golf. Variety of requests as well. The two that we said yes to that are directly 2K eligible.

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Both have to do with Paradise Island pool, which was a 2K identified amenity on the ballot initiative.

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So that is why we showed that 35,000 coming from the 2.4 million 2K fund balance.

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Is this when we ask questions? Okay. I would actually like to go back to some

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of the earlier pages, we don't have to do that right now to understand why some of these

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were knows that they got know, you know, because they look like good ideas, okay.

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And then I, on this page, I have a question about the community navigator being a maybe.

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Thank you, Council Member Noble.

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So I think at the time when we were going through the initial request, when we were looking

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I think overall request between this and I think some internal questions we had about the position already being in existence.

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As you might remember, we have the senior navigator position.

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That's the homeless navigator position.

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And then we also had a request for the community navigator as part of use of the ARP funds.

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So, when the discussion of the ARP funds was coming forward for council's consideration, we had put it maybe here because we didn't understand the full decision yet on those dollars and funds and use.

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So, I would say right now this is one that is still a maybe for us, depending upon where you all want to move forward.

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with, once again, the use of the ARP funds, and I think we've gotten some clear direction

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there about homelessness, mortgage and utility, fees assistance.

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But once again, that's not necessarily the end-all bill.

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And at that same time, we had the request here just as a, another stop-dap, per se.

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If it wasn't funded by the ARP funds, then we could look at it funding it through obviously

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our general fund request or budget enhancement.

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Which

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of the navigators have been, have any of the navigators been approved?

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I heard you say there's three different versions.

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So we have the homeless navigator that was approved in January.

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And who came and made a presentation to counsel just most recently.

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We had a similar request of the community navigator in two places.

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One was with the ARP funds and one was with the budget enhancement request for 2022.

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to. So we were maybe on the 2022 budget enhancement request because you all were also going to

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be deliberating this position as part of the use through the ARP funds.

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Where does the senior navigator fit into that?

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So when talking with staff, when we look at the community navigator resource connections,

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obviously initially was born out of being able to assist and work with our senior community,

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But as we began to better understand the needs of our community, it also included families.

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So we took a much broader approach to just not focusing on seniors, but

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also making sure that we're also looking more broad spectrum to our members of our community that are obviously

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have families and have young ones and have different, and once again, I'll say emerging needs as well.

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So we took that into account in this position.

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So, community to have a gator under parks and recreation is an

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We're in umbrella term for seniors and family. Yes, ma'am. And it's a maybe. It wasn't maybe at the time when we were discussing because like I said at the time we had those two requests. We were coming before you first and foremost with the ARP funds for the same position. And if you had approved it as part of the ARP funds, we would have flipped it to a no here. And would have outlined as Miss Carson has said as subject to

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separate funding, but since you all have not acted upon that, we still have our initial maybe, but obviously it's still up for discussion, and I think a desire by we as a staff and I would say as the general larger community about wanting to move forward with that.

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And what about CBDG funds?

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Are we thinking about, and my gears are trying to just try to make sure that I'm understanding the direction that you want to go with the question, is that leveraging CBBG funds that we receive as part of the annual action plan to help provide a funding source for seniors?

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So partly to that, obviously this position would be citywide, obviously with the use of any CDBG dollars and funding that we have, right, it has to be within qualified census tracks.

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Now, there's nothing saying that going forward that a request for an application or an

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application tied to the AAB funds be submitted for review and action of banks, the deciding

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body that we have here at the city who then bring those for your approval.

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No different than what we have done in the past for, per se, the SBRC, when we had initial staff there at Derby.

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So there's obviously an opportunity there, but it would not be able to cover the full extent of that position given that it would be outside of those qualified census tracks.

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Okay, I would just suggest going back to Shell Steinberg's presentation that she did within the last month, I think it was.

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And that navigator was number one or number two of the responses to the focus groups and surveys that she did.

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And it seemed to me that what she was saying is that there would be funds set up for that.

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And are this CBDG dollars rolled into this budget?

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Or is that a separate discussion as well?

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That is a separate discussion, ma'am.

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You all annually will take action on CBG's budget for the upcoming year.

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So, for example, when we brought forward the 2021-2025 Consolidated Plan, we were also

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required by HUD to bring forward the 2021 Annual Action Plan.

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And that Annual Action Plan identifies for the money that we receive, how we plan and

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intend to spend said money on various programs.

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It's domestic violence, pain-a-thon, minor home repair, kids first dental and so forth.

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It's at that time when you take that approval is when we then initiate going in the contract with those various applicants that have requested use of those dollars and cents that we've received.

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So, we wouldn't be able to look at any additional preparation of CDBD dollars until we start looking at the 2022 annual action plan and request, which would be in the beginning or early of next year.

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Well, I don't want the baby thrown out with the bath water.

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I think it's wonderful to do something for families as well, but I know that the group

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is very anxious to have that service again because the service ended from the city and

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they would like the service to resume.

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So that's all we're talking about is how do we make that happen again?

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Let me sum up everything that's been said. Our intent is to fund a position. The question is what mechanism do we use?

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Okay, that answer I get. Thank you.

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Thank you. I just had a question. I don't see the park ranger anywhere. Could we go into detail if we're going to

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I want to fund a park ranger. I know we've had discussions on council in previous meetings. And I know we're working with Adams County. But I think, you know, I know some of us got to me, those about some parks over the weekend. And it's needed. So where would that come out of or is there a discussion on that? So thank you for that council member Gordola. I actually have Carolyn Keith, parks, rec golf director here. We can speak to a little bit more of the new one.

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That's the details around the request for those positions.

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Council members, I'm out.

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On, can you hear me?

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Thank you.

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It's actually in ordinance 2310, the reappropriation that said community navigator.

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That included the park ranger program that we're currently finalizing in IGA with Adams County to allow us to recruit for

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that position through Adams County Open Space.

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Thank you.

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That was for one.

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Carolyn, you're referring to the ordinance

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that was approved in January of this year, correct?

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Okay, thank you.

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It was actually two positions.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Please don't go anywhere, because now I'm confused

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because I thought that we just spent five minutes

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getting into description as far as this community

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navigator position was the senior navigator,

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slash family navigator rolled in and that's what I'm seeing on the slide up there but then

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the information that you just said the park ranger is that community navigator so can we get a

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little clarification here? Absolutely and maybe what we need to do in the future is so there is a

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community navigator slash homelessness that was the position that was approved in 2310 Sarah's position

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who made the presentation a couple weeks ago, that reappropriation ordinance also appropriated

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the funding for the park ranger.

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We are most agencies have a series of community navigators that have a specialty so we would

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have a community navigator homelessness, community navigator resource that we're referring

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to that would include both seniors and families, but if that's confusing, we can certainly

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look at our title structure for requests for positions.

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Yeah, I think it'd be helpful if there was a line there that just simply said park ranger

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and that way we knew that that's what we were funding with that request.

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So I get they have a greater title but I think that that'll help probably a majority of us

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to understand what's there.

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Also, I'd like to put another request in for the exact cost

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of how much that park ranger is on an annual basis

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so that we can make a determination on how many of those

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we want to fund in the coming years.

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And I can grab my computer and have it on my.

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It doesn't have to be right now.

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This is preliminary.

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I'm sure we'll get to that point of there.

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The other thing, and I appreciate all the information there,

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one thing that I'd like you to keep in the back of your mind

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and answer for us is,

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How much money is left over for your marks for lack of better term?

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I won't use the congressional direct spending as they like to call your marks now, but for council directed spending how much money is going to be left over for us to basically put out our pet ideas that we would like to see adopted within the city.

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So again, that doesn't need to be answered now, but as we go forward would like to know the answer.

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Thank you.

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Thank

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you.

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I was just curious also on the new positions with vehicles are those going to be new vehicles are they vehicles at the city already owns?

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There are new vehicles that would be added to the fleet allocation.

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So there's no vehicles at the city already owns to cover those positions.

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That is a conversation that we continue to have with public works.

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They have repurposed vehicles at times to various departments based on need,

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and that's always something that is considered throughout this process,

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as I mentioned, when a new position with a vehicle or just a vehicle request comes

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in, once finances had an opportunity to look at that and have kind of preliminary past it

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through the process, it does go to fleet to review so that they can give us that information,

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which is either we're going to use something else that we have or this is the new

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position the new vehicle cost for that position. Okay, thanks. And then on the

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slide. I'm just for clarification.

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Thank you, ma'am. No, we are not talking about marijuana with live well, and looking at the slide before us, are you talking about a previous slide? That was the last one.

426
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:34,760
Yeah, it's slide number 23 where it says live well commerce city update it.

427
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Yes, that is not in regards to marijuana man, that's actually in regards to, and if you'll bear with you,

428
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:50,180
then I have it and give you a little bit more details to that request.

429
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:09,080
That 7,000 is in respect to the healthy active living and healthy places initiative collaboration that we have with Colt de Bondeau.

430
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:11,620
Okay, thank you.

431
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:12,100
We

432
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:18,220
move on and Council Member Noelle will speak.

433
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,760
I just want to thank Parks and Rec.

434
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,860
I see up there some special events, wild for life, family, bike ride and run with the Buffalo Turkey trot.

435
00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:26,860
Thank you for putting set events together.

436
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,280
I think that's one thing that we've been missing as our events like that in our community.

437
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,940
So I greatly appreciate the effort to start things like that like

438
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:41,070
this still on

439
00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:47,670
Can you tell the clarify for me please when when we see

440
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:53,450
The request for an actual person

441
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:59,930
Does that include benefits is that salary and benefits? It is salary and benefits and that is calculated by our HR department

442
00:41:59,930 --> 00:42:01,630
Okay, thank you. You're welcome

443
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,360
So I will continue to kind of summarize each of the department slides and then

444
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,100
And Councilwoman Noble, as you mentioned, you might have some additional questions about

445
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,900
some of those items that said maybe or no, so I'm happy to go back to any slide for questions

446
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,900
that you have or any other member of Council has.

447
00:42:23,230 --> 00:42:29,970
So for public safety, a number of requests, you will see the items listed as yes or no.

448
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:36,090
One thing I'd like to point out is before we have this presentation with you, we do an

449
00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:42,210
all day retreat with department heads and all of us sitting at the end of this table here

450
00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:47,190
and we go through requests with them and we ask them to talk to us. We do get forms from them

451
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:52,210
that provide justification but it is an opportunity for them to give updated information

452
00:42:52,730 --> 00:43:00,050
or to plead their case in many instances we ask them to prioritize requests. So a lot of the

453
00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:05,230
yeses that you are seeing are based on that feedback from them. Now certainly they would love to

454
00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:17,190
I have all of their requests approved, but you can see the dollars are limited, so there is a process that we all work through with them to be able to bring forward the preliminary yeses.

455
00:43:17,650 --> 00:43:24,130
These are not surprises to department heads, they've had an opportunity to have those conversations with either Ms. Blakeman or Mr. Rogers.

456
00:43:24,750 --> 00:43:30,530
And even Mr. Tinklinberg on that day of the, we call it the internal department budget retreat.

457
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:33,770
So just wanted to share that information for your benefit as well.

458
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:39,190
On this, I'd like to question a couple of these nose up here.

459
00:43:40,050 --> 00:43:43,590
The tuition assistance, what are we saying no to for $2,400?

460
00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:51,140
So if I made this request, was part of the FOP negotiations that just wrapped up.

461
00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:55,540
So based on those negotiations and some of the other items that were approved.

462
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,000
This was a no because of other items that were agreed upon as part of the negotiation.

463
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:11,560
So the chief and his staff felt confident that it was okay to say no to this because of other items that they brought forward and were approved by the city.

464
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Anything else you wanted to add to that chief?

465
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Okay, that seems like a small number that could have made the contract a little bit more enticing and perhaps help with recruitment.

466
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Am I wrong to think of it that way?

467
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:33,720
We already have a tuition reimbursement program, so it's not like we don't have a program there already.

468
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:38,120
Okay, overtime enhancement for 2022.

469
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,240
Okay,

470
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,960
so part of the base budget review is to go through.

471
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Each of their line items and some of the over time, the on call pay those types of things have been charged to various accounts throughout the budget. So we are realigned some of those things. Theresa Wilson, who I identified earlier, worked closely with Kirk Dominick from the police department to identify some of those areas that of items that needed to be trued up. And so based on that resulted in the items that were yes and some of them that were

472
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:37,140
no. Again, this is in collaboration with the police department and Chief, I don't

473
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:42,300
know if you want to talk specifically more about overtime. No. Historically our

474
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:47,640
salaries and benefits budget did not take into account overtime. Special events

475
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,140
on call pay, FTO pay, vacation, sell back. It was all lumped together. So us trying to

476
00:45:54,140 --> 00:45:58,800
determine what our true overtime budget was was extremely convoluted to do.

477
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,200
There were so many line items hitting that budget.

478
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,100
So this year we had a conversation with finance and we parsed those things out individually.

479
00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:12,300
And so that no is a reflection of the overtime budget did not go down.

480
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:13,540
It's just true up now.

481
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,960
And all of those line items are now broken out as to how much we are supposed to be spending per category.

482
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,660
Before it was just salaries and benefits, $600,000.

483
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:33,240
And every year we would go over that number because vacations sell back comp time over time on call pay all hit that line item is over time and it was not over time.

484
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Okay, thank you. My question is, would putting that money back in the budget allow you to have more officers on the street?

485
00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:50,760
The problem is not with the amount of overtime available. The problem is 12 hour shifts and when they're able to work over time.

486
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,400
So there is a safety factor that comes into play when somebody has worked so many hours.

487
00:46:56,660 --> 00:47:01,220
It probably is not probably, it is not prudent to put them back out on the street even if

488
00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:01,980
we're paying overtime.

489
00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:04,560
And so that is the current hurdle that we're on.

490
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:06,970
Okay.

491
00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:07,950
Thank you for that answer.

492
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:15,410
That's all right.

493
00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:15,930
I can hear you.

494
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:17,830
I'm happy to repeat it for you.

495
00:47:18,110 --> 00:47:18,270
I'll

496
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:36,280
have to leave additional officers not in our officers work more than I misunderstood

497
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,020
the question.

498
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:49,820
Not directly, my question was, I mean, if we had more money in the overtime budget, then can we work officers more and provide them more of an opportunity to be on the streets?

499
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:58,200
So I fully appreciate the answer that we're taxing them to the point of the public safety being a hindrance on unbearing there.

500
00:47:58,420 --> 00:48:01,360
I appreciate that, but I think the council member grants brings up another question.

501
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:06,140
Can you take that $30,000 and $60,000 and fund three more police officers with that money?

502
00:48:06,980 --> 00:48:11,380
I don't know that that'll give us to three because again you have to take into account

503
00:48:11,380 --> 00:48:15,060
We're not where we hire full-time employees it comes with the full

504
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:20,120
Complement of stuff okay in addition to their training so I don't know if that would get us to three

505
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,840
But what is also not reflected on here is the number of insural correct. Oh, we have a second slide

506
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,980
So I would suggest getting through all of this and and I'll just they see if there are questions

507
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:39,420
Right. And I can see, I mean, 10 police officers for another 845,000, you know, in the four patrol sergeants.

508
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,020
But again, if you had that 360,000 put back in your budget based on the fact that it's $84,532 per police officer,

509
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:52,300
that looks to me like that's four police officers that you could put on a street with an additional 360,000.

510
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:52,980
That is correct.

511
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Okay.

512
00:48:53,640 --> 00:49:11,420
And so I think that brings up to the council to see whether or not you want to try to put that money back into the budget and instead of only 10 police officers, 14 police officers, but of course, that brings up the next challenge of whether or not the police department can actively recruit and get through the training process, that level of police officers.

513
00:49:11,420 --> 00:49:16,580
There is no guarantee that we can get them all next year and to clear up any misnomer

514
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:17,620
about it.

515
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:23,760
The Commerce City Police Department has not had a problem hiring and finding qualified

516
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:24,340
applicants.

517
00:49:25,060 --> 00:49:27,400
Our bottleneck is in getting them through an academy.

518
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:31,740
We do not run our own, so we contract out through flat rock and other various entities to

519
00:49:31,740 --> 00:49:32,100
do that.

520
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:36,480
And as you can imagine, most police agencies are going through exactly what we're going

521
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:36,760
through.

522
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,620
so those seats are at a premium, so we can get them where we can.

523
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:45,460
Our prolonged strategy is to, when we put people in an academy,

524
00:49:45,740 --> 00:49:49,160
we want all of our employees to go through the same academy.

525
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,540
Bill's camaraderie there together, they go through the academy together,

526
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,920
generally speaking, they'll come here together, and the knowledge base

527
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,380
is consistent across the board.

528
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,460
We have split.

529
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:28,720
New employees up to different academies, and when we come bring them back together to get them coalescing as one, that becomes even more difficult. And we find out that oftentimes they've bonded with other agencies before they get here, and that becomes a bit of a challenge for us. So there are some challenges with getting them all through the same academy consistently. Our staff is pretty good about it, but generally speaking, we are limited to about seven to ten.

530
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,400
And at least that flat rock where we send our folks.

531
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
And I think that's a great answer and I appreciate that.

532
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:42,740
I think to sum it all up what we're looking for is what do you need in your budget to increase public safety?

533
00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:57,840
Increase boots on the street and get us to the point where we can adequately man our shifts with enough coverage in both halves of the city to make sure that we are able to reduce response times.

534
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:04,680
and respond to issues in an appropriate manner and deal with some of the larger items

535
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,440
that tend to take up a large swath of officers that are on shift at a certain time.

536
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:10,700
What do you need?

537
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,640
That's a good question.

538
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,760
And I wish that I could tell you that there was a magic bullet that I said that we could fund this.

539
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:19,580
This would take care of it.

540
00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:28,280
I believe last meeting DC moon came up to the podium and talked about the sort of narrative surrounding public safety nowadays.

541
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:40,220
This is an absolutely trying time for the profession to not only recruit and retain, but it is a struggle overall for finding and identifying people that want to do this job.

542
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:47,720
In addition to that, standards of the Commerce City Police Department are also pretty high. We are not just filling the seats with warm bodies.

543
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,500
So here's what I will tell you if I had a magic solution fix and I'll follow it up with

544
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:54,080
an analogy.

545
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:58,140
When we bring new people in, we don't even have enough lockers for them.

546
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,840
And so the subtle message that that sends to new employees is thanks for hiring me but

547
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,680
I'm not really needed because you don't even have space for me.

548
00:52:06,940 --> 00:52:09,500
And it's not any law of any one person.

549
00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:12,720
We have just maxed out our space within the Civic Center.

550
00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:25,200
I appreciate that answer, because coincidentally, I think we're having a conversation earlier this afternoon about one of the solutions that we could explore to help out with that situation.

551
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,040
So hopefully that helps us a little bit in getting that looked at to see whether or not we have that.

552
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,260
But so that's great space is an issue.

553
00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:42,440
What else do you need in order to improve your standing in your department with regard to resources?

554
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,700
Just to clarify, I'm not truly, I'm not worried about my standing with the department.

555
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,580
Not personally, I'm saying to approve the department.

556
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:54,380
I wasn't referring to personally to Chief Nichols.

557
00:52:54,900 --> 00:53:00,040
What do you need to improve the Commerce City Police Department to be able to

558
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:07,740
patrol and provide public safety for our city?

559
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:12,940
if you were to sit there and say this is what I need to have the perfect police

560
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:17,500
department, what is it? Oh, I will tell you that we're none of us are in a

561
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:22,980
position to fix it. My ability to hire quickly and get well-trained people in

562
00:53:22,980 --> 00:53:30,920
the department is a struggle. We just do not draw the types of folks from larger

563
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,400
organizations that we would need to be able to do that. So the level of experience

564
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,200
that we're getting is is a bit taxing. And I don't know that there's any one way to fix that.

565
00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:44,820
I will tell you we've looked at salaries and benefits and I will tell you I think the

566
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,960
bargaining unit at a pretty decent job with the contract that they got. Our police officers

567
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,320
are generally speaking within the top two or three percent of the entire state, which is pretty

568
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,100
noble. But here's what I will tell you from my last few conversations with the folks that have

569
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,200
just getting out of policing.

570
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,540
Commerce City is a difficult place to work.

571
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:09,680
It is fast paced and given our proximity to Denver,

572
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:11,340
we deal with big city problems.

573
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,300
And when we've tried to recruit from smaller agencies,

574
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:18,320
those experienced folks that I believe we would need

575
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,060
to quickly get us over the hump, they generally come here

576
00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:24,040
and they just are not used to working at this pace

577
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,460
and they get frustrated and they leave.

578
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:28,660
We've had that happen on numerous occasions.

579
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:36,580
I will also tell you that because we are taxed, it sort of is a hamster wheel sort of.

580
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:39,840
We fall short in staffing, everybody works harder.

581
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:44,660
We don't do anything to change the way we're working, and so you just end up on this revolver

582
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:47,960
wheel of those who can do and those who can't get out.

583
00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:55,620
So there isn't a one solution that fits all approach to immediately putting people on

584
00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:56,680
the street unfortunately.

585
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,980
This profession challenges the character.

586
00:55:01,860 --> 00:55:28,260
We're going to do it well, or you're going to do it not well, and we have very low tolerance for people that are not going to do it well. This community is, and what I will tell you is, if you've been in Commerce City longer than 10 years, if you took a look at the police department 10 years ago, you will probably recognize they don't even look similar. And so as we try to change the culture of Commerce City and do things differently, we're going to have hurdles. And there is no quick fix for that.

587
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:33,180
you just got to do the work. Part of that is I think we're getting very good candidates in the door.

588
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,860
The recruiting team that I have has done a great job of identifying the pitfalls of police

589
00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:44,480
work sharing that with them up front. We lay out expectations to them and they're rising to the

590
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:50,560
challenge. And I think we've got a very good group of the last three to four years of employees that

591
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,300
are here that are doing a great job. But make no mistake about it. There's a sense of

592
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:59,220
I want to go back to the old 90s days of policing.

593
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,720
That's a dangerous thing.

594
00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:06,280
And so I think the best approach and I will tell you and

595
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,120
talking to the city manager and the rest of the executive

596
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,760
team about our approach to fixing some of the hills of

597
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,340
commerce city.

598
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:14,040
I think this is a good start.

599
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480
One of the things and I don't see it up here is up the

600
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,780
staffing assessment that we're going to have complete it.

601
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,300
That was done through reappropriation.

602
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:25,300
We'll give all of council in our community a pretty good

603
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:29,160
idea of what we're looking at and so what I would urge council to do is let's

604
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,560
wait to get that done it get approved through reappropriation we hope to have

605
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,400
that document in our hands by November December at the latest and it'll give

606
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,200
you a pretty good idea of not only community feedback officer led feedback and

607
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,560
some of our constituents about what we can do to improve and it'll give us a

608
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,120
much better picture than me telling you if I had 30 more officers I could fix all

609
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,680
all the problems. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Hopefully, I don't really answer

610
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,600
your question. No, it's good. One of the things that's been brought up in the past complaint

611
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,020
in the department has been the lack of take home cars. And is that still an issue that

612
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:10,180
resonates with officers? The fact that we don't have that available? And is that something

613
00:57:10,180 --> 00:57:15,500
that if it is an issue could be eradicated? That is, I don't know where that complaint

614
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:19,460
has never hit my desk. That's the first time I'm hearing it. The folks that are working

615
00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:21,720
in an on-call capacity have take on vehicles.

616
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:27,180
Patrol officers do not, and I don't think that any one of them would want to take a black

617
00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:28,920
and white home and park it in their driveway.

618
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:34,340
So to answer your question, I've never heard that complaint, that's not anything as reasonable

619
00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:41,360
my desk, but everybody on an on-call status that has to potentially respond 24-7 has a take

620
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:41,860
on vehicle.

621
00:57:42,580 --> 00:57:42,760
Okay.

622
00:57:43,420 --> 00:57:44,020
Any council members?

623
00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:44,880
Any council members?

624
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,060
Chief, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to-

625
00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:49,300
That's okay, I can hear you fine.

626
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:56,300
Face away, so everyone else can hear me, but I'm just wondering, can we do things to make

627
00:57:56,300 --> 00:57:58,880
it more attractive to come be a police officer in Commerce City?

628
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:01,740
Can we allocate some of this money to increase salaries?

629
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,640
Are we competitive in the region for other police departments in terms of pay?

630
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,960
Are there benefits that are attractive to police officers?

631
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:15,800
I'll start there and then I have a follow-up question.

632
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Yes, and I will tell you part of our struggle is we work with a bargaining unit, so they have to bring those things forward on behalf of their members.

633
00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:30,460
I would not be a very good chief if I started bargaining for the bargaining unit and then sat across the table from them.

634
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:39,840
And I think I've done some of that. That's why you saw the tuition enhancement, the approval of the master patrol officer positions.

635
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Those are things that I was going to ask for in the budget, that the bargaining unit brought to the table.

636
00:58:44,460 --> 00:58:50,080
So I don't sure I'll mention one issue that we said no to, and it's because they got a better deal in the bargaining unit.

637
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:52,600
Are our salaries competitive in the region?

638
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,180
Yes, top two to three percent.

639
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:00,060
Usually the only people that beat us are Lakewood, which has to be by their state.

640
00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:02,900
They have to be the number one paid organization in the state.

641
00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:06,920
That's a weird contract, and then Aurora in Denver.

642
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:14,740
And then in the news oh go ahead let me just add on to that we do an annual survey and then

643
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:24,780
according to the agreement we pay 1% above the average of that entire survey. Okay and then in

644
00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:29,580
the news this week I see that Denver is going to start requiring their PD to be vaccinated. I'm

645
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:35,760
wondering if we're going to see fallout in terms of officer turnover because of that and is there

646
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,980
an opportunity to look at bringing police officers just across the city line here.

647
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,280
I don't see that will be an option.

648
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,280
Denver falls there with defined contribution plan, and sure, I may have the correct

649
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:49,480
man.

650
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,520
I don't think I'm getting the term right.

651
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,160
They have FPPA.

652
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,100
I don't see too many Denver officers leaving that system to come into our system.

653
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,840
You get your years of service.

654
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,740
Based upon how many years are in FPPA, we are not in that system, so for them to come here, they'd be leaving all that money on the table, so that makes it a little bit of a challenge just to get officers from bigger organizations. That's a retirement. Is that what it's called in Colorado? Is there an opportunity to join that? I mean, it seems like there's some potentially low hanging fruit to make ourselves look more attractive to other officers who are leaving another department.

655
01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:32,740
But there is an opportunity to join that and we did analyze that.

656
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,220
I believe it was two years ago.

657
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,420
We did expect during the negotiations this year that that may come up again, but they

658
01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:41,720
elected not to bring that up and not negotiate on that fact.

659
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:45,720
I don't know the reason behind that decision, but it is something that I brought up early

660
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,420
in the negotiation process, and they elected not to, not to say that it won't come up the

661
01:00:50,420 --> 01:00:55,740
next time they negotiate, but perhaps they wanted other things in place of that.

662
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:56,840
but I don't really know the reason

663
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,280
that drove their decision.

664
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,180
I don't want to belabor it much more.

665
01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:04,140
I just, it's curious to me that we can't offer more.

666
01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:06,140
You know, I understand what you're saying.

667
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,880
Like, they bring the bargaining to you,

668
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,960
but why can't we offer more back to them?

669
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,600
Is anyone gonna turn that down?

670
01:01:13,660 --> 01:01:16,940
If we say we want to give you more benefits, more pay, more?

671
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:22,660
Well, they did bring up increasing their contribution

672
01:01:22,660 --> 01:01:24,300
to their retirement plan,

673
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:36,260
but not trying to switch over to FPPA and so one of the things that we reminded them is they do have the opportunity to participate in 457 match and then get the match along with that.

674
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,320
Many of them I think did not know or had not previously elected to do that.

675
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:53,700
And once they were reminded that they already have that in place and can participate and receive a match on that, then they removed their request to increase their contribution and match.

676
01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:59,480
because that was already established so they are thinking about those things and

677
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,240
bring up at the beginning of the negotiations bring up a variety of items that

678
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:08,880
they want to talk about. Okay and then last question I know that we don't run

679
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,620
our own academy is that something that we could look at budgeting for in the

680
01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:12,900
future?

681
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,680
That would be a massive undertaking now you're talking about dedicated

682
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,540
staff and we currently have like three people working out a desk right now

683
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:29,640
Also, you're talking about a facility build and for all the things that police officers have to do at this point in time.

684
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,260
It's much more cost effective to contract that service out.

685
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:38,180
I will tell you it full build out that this city is ultimately going to get to.

686
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,420
That would be a very wise decision.

687
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:46,280
I would not want to rely upon a city of over 100,000 people contracting out their academy services.

688
01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:50,360
You end up getting a product that you paid for, not what you've instilled.

689
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,080
Okay. Thank you.

690
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:09,680
Chief, I wanted to ask about the status of the discussions with the fire department for another for a bigger station and a booking station in North

691
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:22,420
Commerce City in the animal in the animal hospital rescue building that the fire department is purchasing. I don't see that in the budget either.

692
01:03:22,420 --> 01:03:30,460
It is not in there. I've had some brief conversations. I know some members of my staff have talked to South Adams County regarding it.

693
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:38,120
While we generally agree that that would be a great idea. The one hurdle that we have is policing as a 24-7 operation.

694
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:44,760
Fire department will normally sleep at night and let me, I don't know what fire department people do.

695
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,320
I get they sleep, okay, it's been confirmed.

696
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,700
And so with us being in and out of the building with suspects and all the things that take place at a police building,

697
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,920
they may not necessarily work so well together.

698
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,540
And our space needs are,

699
01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:09,360
for us to run an adequate police station will require an insurmountable amount of funds to turn it into something that is secure.

700
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:15,420
That we can literally jail people in and now we're taking away from the function of a police department.

701
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:23,240
So I think at this juncture what we decided is if we needed some people that had needed some place to go to take a break and sit down and take a report.

702
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:28,340
It would be great for that, but for a working police facility it probably would not work.

703
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:31,180
We wouldn't even have the space to put our vehicles up there.

704
01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:41,200
So there are some unique challenges that both organizations realized would probably make that not a worthwhile venture for us to pursue.

705
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:53,440
So, in terms of staffing and I fully support extra officers for your department, we won't

706
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:59,340
see the results of that for a year because of the training.

707
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:25,380
That is correct. My believe these budgetate positions, these 10 would be starting the academy January 5th or 6th. They would not get out of the academy until about July and July. They would do an in-house academy for about 6 weeks. And early September, they will go in the field training. You won't see them out on their street fully capable of doing their job till about December, late December.

708
01:05:28,060 --> 01:05:31,900
So those 10 people you're hiring for 2022, you won't see the

709
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:33,540
the realization of that till 2023.

710
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,720
Is there anything that we could do that would help in the interim?

711
01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:47,770
Again, we could always, and I take from being honest,

712
01:05:48,110 --> 01:05:50,730
and then Rodgers in the room, I'm not trying to get brownie points.

713
01:05:50,830 --> 01:05:54,210
He's been absolutely great to work with regarding the overhires.

714
01:05:54,910 --> 01:06:00,030
Part of our problem has been specifically last year with the coronavirus

715
01:06:00,030 --> 01:06:01,210
and the full pandemic.

716
01:06:01,650 --> 01:06:06,070
We had nine officers leave and we were not able to do any recruitment.

717
01:06:06,070 --> 01:06:09,050
So, that is why we're feeling the pinch now.

718
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:11,930
We were not able to run any academies.

719
01:06:12,030 --> 01:06:13,050
We couldn't do any hiring.

720
01:06:13,490 --> 01:06:16,250
There was just no way to replace the nine people that left.

721
01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:19,470
Generally speaking, we would fulfill those positions

722
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:20,490
as they're occurring.

723
01:06:21,130 --> 01:06:23,350
So, we've not only lost nine last year.

724
01:06:23,790 --> 01:06:25,970
We lost an additional six this year.

725
01:06:26,570 --> 01:06:28,950
And so, when you take a look at that total volume,

726
01:06:29,410 --> 01:06:32,170
we just have not had the ability to replace those bodies

727
01:06:32,170 --> 01:06:32,750
as of yet.

728
01:06:33,250 --> 01:06:34,850
And they're leaving for all sorts of reasons.

729
01:06:34,850 --> 01:06:37,630
I believe the bulk of them left the profession all together.

730
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:40,590
They just decided this is not something that they wanted to do.

731
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:47,370
Some moved to other jurors, I know we've lost two of Texas and two to Florida, and they

732
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:49,050
got $10,000 signing bonuses.

733
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,110
So kind of difficult for us to compete with those.

734
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,160
So we could do signing bonuses.

735
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:03,980
We could do a whole lot of things, there's no guarantee that folks will, and again, the

736
01:07:03,980 --> 01:07:08,980
So the work in environment in Commerce City is, the joke I tell people is I came to

737
01:07:08,980 --> 01:07:11,420
Las Vegas and took this job as a retirement job.

738
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,200
It has been anything but this place is busy.

739
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:23,360
And if you are not used to fast-paced policing in this environment, case in point, we hired

740
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,860
this last go-around, this last academy that just came to us.

741
01:07:26,860 --> 01:07:35,480
We hire three police officers with seven to ten years of experience from various towns, not in the Denver Metro region.

742
01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:39,280
And they all left within three months ago and this pace is ridiculous.

743
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,620
We can't keep track.

744
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:47,780
And so it is a difficult place to, part of that is the growth.

745
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,680
We haven't exactly done a great job of managing it from a police department standpoint.

746
01:07:53,480 --> 01:08:02,360
We've added something like 3,000 homes, and I looked at Mr. Rogers to correct me, we've added a bunch of homes and not one police officer position in quite some time.

747
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:07,300
And so this is just the chickens have come home to roost.

748
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:13,400
I think this 10 will help us. I think getting that staffing assessment out of the way will certainly help us.

749
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:20,220
It will give you a true picture of, here is how you anticipate it to grow, here is what you need to manage what you have now.

750
01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:24,560
and here's what we recommend you do if you're going to continue on this

751
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:31,060
pace because some of Commer City's growth numbers are unreal, literally unreal

752
01:08:31,060 --> 01:08:36,000
and then you combine that with the environment that we work in and you combine

753
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,260
that with the general narrative surrounding policing in general and it makes

754
01:08:40,260 --> 01:08:50,020
for a very unhappy situation. We had also asked about looking into a company

755
01:08:50,020 --> 01:08:58,680
that would only do parking tickets so that police officers wouldn't have to be involved in that, what's the status of that?

756
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,000
That information, we did an RFP for that information.

757
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,040
I believe it's been provided to Council twice already.

758
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:08,880
And we're waiting to hear back from Council on if you want to pursue that or not.

759
01:09:09,460 --> 01:09:10,840
We've not heard anything back.

760
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,280
I've not heard anything back.

761
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,660
We've received information on it twice.

762
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:16,760
Yes, ma'am.

763
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,460
What was the cost and did you have companies that were interested?

764
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,480
I don't have those quotes in front of me.

765
01:09:24,580 --> 01:09:26,240
I believe we received three quotes.

766
01:09:26,340 --> 01:09:28,100
One of them wanted to sell us parts.

767
01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:35,580
So we had two quotes and I can't say whether they were interested in pursuing it or not.

768
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:38,240
They just replied to the request for information.

769
01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:39,900
Okay.

770
01:09:40,060 --> 01:09:42,080
So we would still have to negotiate the terms of that.

771
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:46,740
And I would also be, again, you guys are the governing body, ultimately you make that decision.

772
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,900
I think it's important to remember how we got on parking in the first place.

773
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:59,420
For those of you that were on council when this came up, the police department generally did not do a very good job of parking enforcement at all.

774
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:24,080
Despite the complaints, and I will tell you it is a great tool to get officers in and out of neighborhoods so that we know that they are there. Having said that, I will tell you, parking is a relatively low priority. We do it when we have to. We want to make sure it's proactive. But if we could certainly facilitate that moving somewhere else, the terms of the contract would need to be negotiated, but that is certainly something we could do.

775
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:52,660
So the response on that came in email that was addressed everybody and I think most of you have had a conversation this evening with a net over how do we want to continue working with these issues and follow up and thing and that's spurred partly by the fact that we have not moved forward or had discussion on that so there was something that was emailed all the council members and unfortunately overlooked by many and so that's why we haven't moved forward with that.

776
01:10:52,660 --> 01:10:59,020
So we needed agendas and yes, we'll hopefully be having that conversation moving forward.

777
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,980
I'm going to count some member Smith and then count some member Alan Thomas.

778
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,620
So my question is about the overtime enhancement.

779
01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:13,040
Can we use that for hiring bonuses or hiring incentives for the PD that we do have?

780
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:18,740
So if someone says like, I have a friend that's already qualified and then maybe do like

781
01:11:18,740 --> 01:11:20,620
a lateral academy, use that money for that.

782
01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:25,260
We absolutely could and I can tell you on occasion we do take advantage of that

783
01:11:25,260 --> 01:11:29,380
So while we don't have a program for hiring bonuses per say

784
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:34,560
There is nothing that restricts me from getting hold of the city manager going. I've got a great candidate

785
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,880
He needs $5,000 to move here and that gets okay

786
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:43,560
So while we don't have a budgeted line item for it. There is nothing currently that would restrict us from doing that

787
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,000
So yes to ask your question it would assist. Okay, and then

788
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:53,640
And kind of going back to what Council Member Noble says, having like meter maids

789
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,120
doing the parking so that the police officers can do policing.

790
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,860
That would be something that would help them immensely, that way they can for

791
01:12:01,860 --> 01:12:03,560
these 10 officers that are going to be coming on.

792
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,580
All the FTOs can actually be helping the police officers and not doing traffic or not

793
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:09,840
traffic, not doing parking.

794
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,920
I didn't know that I understood your question correctly.

795
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:23,280
Using a company to enforce, to do parking enforcement so that the police officers can be police officers and not parking enforcement.

796
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:36,900
And I guess my question would be the definition of a police officer is what because I will tell you my staff and I are very much in favor of addressing quality of life issues.

797
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:42,300
parking is definitely a quality of life issue in Gomer City and so I would be

798
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,520
hesitant to take that completely off of our plate. It still needs to be

799
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,160
something we have the ability to do. I will tell you it doesn't need to be a

800
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:54,660
top. It is not an A1 priority now and so contracting that service out is

801
01:12:54,660 --> 01:13:00,640
something we can look at but again I want to caution council that taking

802
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,860
everything that police officers don't want to do off their plate means you've

803
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:34,780
We got a ton of cops sitting around not doing anything and again I would be very careful in the message that we sent surrounding that so while that is one approach, I also want to make mention that my staff and I met last week to discuss some priorities that we're taking a look at in the police department parking is one of those issues that came up and we're going to be bringing those to the city manager within a week or two for him to take a look at our service levels about the staffing is a challenge right now and we need to make

804
01:13:34,780 --> 01:13:40,160
a decision about we can't continue to do the things we've been doing that are not a high priority so

805
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,400
we do have that list coming and that will be available and you know they're operational and

806
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,680
concerned but I'm pretty sure the city manager would share that with council and it's something we

807
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,180
would certainly want to let our community know that you know due to some of these issues that we're

808
01:13:53,180 --> 01:14:00,140
dealing with here's some service level changes that are going to be making. I would suggest we wait

809
01:14:00,140 --> 01:14:05,600
for that and then if you determine that what we're proposing is it relates to parking does not

810
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:11,320
jive with what council wants to see at that point we should council should make a decision regarding

811
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:16,500
going to private entity route because that comes with its own set of frustrations that you will

812
01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:25,320
deal with as well. Okay thank you. Yes ma'am. Yes thank you chief I'm just curious most of the

813
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:31,200
officers they work 12 hour shifts is that correct? Yes ma'am. Okay because I'm just curious. Is

814
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,780
that evaluated like are they happy with that? I'm just curious like as a nurse is a lot of them

815
01:14:35,780 --> 01:14:42,720
get burnout working 12 hour shifts. So is that something that is evaluated to see like if maybe

816
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:48,460
they prefer eight hour shifts and is that a possible reason why some of them mainly also are they

817
01:14:48,460 --> 01:14:54,140
happy with the 12 hours? Well here is here's what I will tell you 12 hour shifts are not my desired

818
01:14:54,140 --> 01:14:58,840
If I had my drawers, I would not prefer a tool of our shift.

819
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,140
That can be exhausting, and I think you start to have mental errors. You know this from being a healthcare provider that that long of a shift sort of tends to dull your sharpness towards the end of your shift, particularly if you're not getting the rest that you're required to. I will also tell you the work in 12 hour shifts means they only work six months of the year. And so while it is something that is often brought up that we don't like a work at 12 hour shifts on two occasions,

820
01:15:29,140 --> 01:15:31,400
I've tried to change that and met resistance.

821
01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:35,960
So I think it is a, we like working three days a week

822
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,040
and getting four days off.

823
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,720
Yeah, 12 hours suck.

824
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,020
But going to eight hours now means I'm here five days a week

825
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:43,180
and I'm getting two days off.

826
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,340
I think you can imagine what that would,

827
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,540
that would probably be fought with a ton of resistance.

828
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:51,660
And I will tell you one of the things I think that makes us attractive

829
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:52,680
is a 12 hour shift.

830
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,200
I'm still not a fan of it.

831
01:15:56,340 --> 01:15:58,840
I think there's enough research that's been done to suggest

832
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:04,660
that that's not safe for a highly-scaled group of people to work those type of

833
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:10,080
hours. And we certainly see it on our that fourth day on their 12 hour shifts is

834
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,620
generally when we start having all of our accidents and mental errors take

835
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:18,080
place. So not a fan of it but right now we're doing it simply based out of

836
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,240
austerity. We have to. We don't have a choice. If I were to try to implement a 10

837
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:27,260
hour schedule or particularly an eight hour schedule we would probably need way

838
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:33,280
more than 10 additional bodies. Do you know are any other cities in Colorado practicing

839
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:39,960
12 hours? Yes ma'am, I know that several of them that are all experiencing staffing concerns

840
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:45,060
have switched to 12 hours shifts. It is about the bare bones minimum that you can do, which

841
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:51,500
are existing staff. And again, nobody likes it until you try to take it away and go, okay,

842
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,800
now we're going to make it. Have you show up at work four days a week instead of three,

843
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,720
in, you know, cops new value their time off.

844
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:02,220
So that time to be off is, again, what I will tell you

845
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:03,640
is it's an organizational decision.

846
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,000
And we are bound by some language in the contract

847
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,780
on what schedules we can do.

848
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,920
So that's the other dynamic as well.

849
01:17:10,060 --> 01:17:12,440
I don't have full volition to state.

850
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,840
We're going Monday through Friday.

851
01:17:14,140 --> 01:17:15,060
I can't do that either.

852
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:16,360
OK, thanks.

853
01:17:16,660 --> 01:17:18,340
And then last question.

854
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,300
Is housing this part of the budget

855
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:27,020
or some are the officers offered some type of like housing ascentive or something you know

856
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:30,880
is that in the budget? Do they already receive something like that?

857
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:37,820
That is not in the that is not in my budget. I do know at one point the city offered a stipend

858
01:17:37,820 --> 01:17:42,080
for someone buying a home in Commerce City, but that was before I got here.

859
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:49,020
We do have a program for those that want to purchase homes in the city that they can apply for

860
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:55,180
and it has a tiered structure based on the amount of money they make, how many years

861
01:17:55,180 --> 01:17:57,360
of service it takes to repay that.

862
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,020
And several people throughout the organization have taken advantage of that program.

863
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,340
All right.

864
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:02,860
Thank you.

865
01:18:05,900 --> 01:18:06,320
Thank you.

866
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:11,060
I have, and this might be for Roger and Chief, what are we doing?

867
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:16,620
We all know that we need a Northern Substation, a legit Northern Substation.

868
01:18:16,620 --> 01:18:20,300
And where in the budget are we putting money aside for that?

869
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:27,940
Are we doing anything just so it could be a easier lift when we have to get that?

870
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,840
Because we all know it has to happen in the near future.

871
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:41,480
There's an item in the CIP budget that I put in for starting to plan for design of such a facility.

872
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:42,640
Thank you.

873
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:49,680
From our, sorry, it turned it off. And from our standpoint, we have started to look at facilities.

874
01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:53,940
Fire department beat us to the animal shelter. That was on my list of things.

875
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:58,520
And we currently have somebody in ED looking for space large enough for us to accommodate.

876
01:18:59,980 --> 01:19:04,660
Again, part of our problem is we just can't move into a storefront.

877
01:19:05,020 --> 01:19:10,440
The security measures that we have to have and, you know, if you drove behind the substation of North,

878
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,660
that we constantly get complaints about the police vehicles park that are on

879
01:19:13,660 --> 01:19:20,940
secured so our needs for space are high but what we need for space is also high

880
01:19:20,940 --> 01:19:26,320
so our ability to just move into a bad and darkened donut store is going to

881
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,520
cost us more than they would if we just purchase land and put something up so

882
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,980
we unfortunately we just have some unique challenges thank

883
01:19:37,210 --> 01:19:38,310
you I appreciate

884
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:42,790
this candid conversation I think that what I'm taking away from it though is

885
01:19:43,610 --> 01:19:59,050
We want to support the department in any way we can and think outside the box and some of the measures that we can use and some of the money that we can use to better recruit people, especially those that are already trained police officers that wouldn't have to go through a six month academy and a year training process.

886
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,540
As well as retention of our current officers. I look at that, not to nitpick on one item, but I look at that $2,400 for tuition reimbursement. Yes, we already have a program, but educating your police officers is something that is an investment. It is proven multiple studies out there that when you invest in your employees through education and training, that you reap the benefits for a long time. I hate seeing that such a small number as a no.

887
01:20:29,540 --> 01:20:33,320
So, you know, we should be doing everything that we can to help our officers and other

888
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,460
employees as well to be as educated as possible.

889
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,580
And, you know, the old fear of, well, as soon as they get their degree, they're going to

890
01:20:40,580 --> 01:20:45,160
go get a better job someplace else, you know, that has been disproven in multiple academic

891
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,300
research studies to say that just doesn't happen.

892
01:20:47,460 --> 01:20:53,860
So, I would really like to see what can we do to make it more attractive to keep these officers,

893
01:20:53,860 --> 01:21:19,180
to make it more attractive for an officer to go back to school and continue in advance education and continue to learn in that regard in order to make themselves better and in doing so it's going to make them better for the residents in our community as well and sure good and if I may one of the things I want to point out one of the negotiated items that we actually brought forward that master police officer position is entitled to do just that.

894
01:21:19,180 --> 01:21:28,380
And so that position is not just a title it comes with a 5% pay raise I believe I believe so I forget what the actual percentage is

895
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:34,560
So we are paying people to go and get themselves educated. So while that budget item that 24 hundred bucks

896
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:40,720
I agree with you was a drop in the bucket what we're going to be getting on the back end of that master patrol officer position

897
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,020
Farser passes the 24 hundred bucks

898
01:21:43,020 --> 01:21:52,640
So while you may see that and suggest it, that's a small amount, that money did get absorbed in that different position that that is going to be absorbed throughout the police department.

899
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,280
So it did go somewhere.

900
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,180
Sure, and I appreciate that.

901
01:21:56,300 --> 01:22:00,660
And I know one of the requirements to be a sergeant in our department is you have to have a degree, right?

902
01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:11,600
And so what program do we have in place that is going to take that young officer who just came out of the academy and get them that education to get the degree so that they can become a sergeant in a later time.

903
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:41,580
And, you know, I look back to the military at several programs where enlisted members were afforded the opportunity to get their education to become a commission officer, what are we doing in order to use that as a tool to leverage to keep these young officers who come to Commerce City and give them a program that they can strive for knowing that eventually they'll be in a position of leadership and continue to serve our community, instead of coming in getting their FTO, getting all that done and lateraling to another department, where we've wasted all the time and energy in another department has the opportunity.

904
01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:43,520
opportunity to leverage our time and effort.

905
01:22:44,180 --> 01:22:47,500
So I just would ask that you explore more programs like that

906
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:50,320
that are going to provide those opportunities

907
01:22:50,660 --> 01:22:53,060
in order to keep the retention where we need it to be

908
01:22:53,060 --> 01:22:54,700
and not lose these young officers

909
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:56,940
to other departments that may seem more attractive.

910
01:22:57,460 --> 01:23:00,540
And I will tell you, I consider all of those things.

911
01:23:01,020 --> 01:23:03,780
Here are some things that you won't see that are up here.

912
01:23:04,460 --> 01:23:05,980
One of the things that Commerce City

913
01:23:05,980 --> 01:23:07,760
has a great tuition assistance program.

914
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:11,220
There is a pot of money that you submit your grades for,

915
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:13,440
and I believe as long as it's a C or above,

916
01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:15,840
you get money back on that.

917
01:23:16,340 --> 01:23:18,960
In addition to that, in relations to,

918
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,720
when we talk about how great we have it in Commerce City,

919
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:22,980
we're the only police department

920
01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:24,640
that pays you for a degree.

921
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:26,880
So not only do we pay you to get it,

922
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,040
once you've got it,

923
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,280
you get, I believe, a monthly stipend,

924
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:33,400
if I'm not mistaken, that you get,

925
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:35,160
you don't get that anywhere else in Colorado.

926
01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:38,600
So we are police officers in their contract.

927
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:52,680
In fact, they do pretty well, it's pretty unique, and we realize a lot of the things that you just stated, we also understand that education is important, and having a well-versed police forces

928
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:59,680
vitally important to keeping this community safe and operating in a manner prudent with community standards.

929
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,740
And so we fully understand that, and we certainly spend the money to make sure that that happens.

930
01:24:05,220 --> 01:24:07,580
So your comments did not go on her.

931
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:09,820
Thank you.

932
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,100
Does anybody else have anything, Council Member Smith?

933
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,800
Master, please, softsters, that one position or is that a new title?

934
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,000
That is a new title.

935
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:24,200
We are contracted, not contracted now.

936
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:28,800
We have some interns from some universities somewhere that are going to be helping us, and

937
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:35,160
working with staff to build that position. And it is not just one position. If I'm not

938
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,660
mistaken, I think we can have up to, I don't know the exact language in the contract.

939
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:45,300
I think we can have up to 10. And so those are 10 potential positions for people that

940
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:49,140
have demonstrated that they can operate at a high level. They're well trained and they can

941
01:24:49,140 --> 01:24:54,400
function on their own without the lack of supervision. We'll get that title and they will keep

942
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,780
it for up to three years and it'll be a credentialing process. So there will always be

943
01:24:58,780 --> 01:24:59,760
after

944
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:28,760
And to, towards furthering yourself and not just saying, I made sergeant, and now I never have to do anything I get. So it's like a position above sergeant, are they still patrol, are they like? They will be positions in not only patrol, but an investigation as well, but you can, you have to be a police officer to be a master police officer. So they do still fall under the sergeant structure. Okay. Well, if we have master police officers, and then you get four more sergeants.

945
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:32,480
when that make it kind of like top heavy?

946
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,080
No, when any time we hire 10 more police officers, we need more supervision.

947
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:40,760
And the city has grown at such a rapid pace.

948
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,700
One of the things that we're going to be experiencing next year is we're,

949
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,720
this will probably go over most of your heads.

950
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,140
But we're going to be splitting our patrol channel.

951
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:53,760
So the north will be on its own patrol channel and the south will be on its own patrol channel.

952
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:57,220
Because of the volume of calls having them combined on one channel

953
01:25:57,220 --> 01:26:02,120
is too much for a dispatcher so we'll be splitting those and that requires supervision

954
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,340
beyond each of those channels so that's the point for the for additional sergeants

955
01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:11,020
when whenever we increase staffing we have to increase the level of first line supervision

956
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:16,880
that does not take into there are no more command level positions in the budget that we

957
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:17,400
ask for.

958
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:17,960
Okay.

959
01:26:18,460 --> 01:26:19,240
Thank you.

960
01:26:22,060 --> 01:26:26,920
I know we've kind of the whole conversation is can we spend more money on the PD I want

961
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:31,960
to ask it directly before this comes back to us. I'd like to see more in this budget when

962
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,920
it comes back to us.

963
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,280
Whatever it is that your wildest dreams could imagine to make your

964
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:43,600
PDE department better, put something else in here for us, because we want to make it better.

965
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:44,600
Whatever that takes.

966
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,060
Again, appreciate the conversation. I think that we beat the horse to death

967
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:57,360
and it came back to life and we beat it to death again. Let's go ahead and take a 10-minute break

968
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,840
and come back with the next set of slides.

969
01:38:44,620 --> 01:39:14,600
Okay, again, want to thank everybody for the last conversation. Thank you, Chief, for your answers. Appreciate that. Cheryl, we'll go ahead and move on to the next slides. Great, thank you. So, oops, sorry, I've advanced one too many. So the last couple of slides are for public works. So again, variety of requests. Some of these are to add to line items that were outside of the normal base adjustment. And that is based on an average over a few years.

970
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:25,340
years. So requests for that or let's see. I'll move to the next one. There is one item on this

971
01:39:25,340 --> 01:39:31,320
list. You'll see that it was a no. That's because it was added through the reappropriation ordinance.

972
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,540
So again, the items that are added through reappropriation, if they're going to increase the base

973
01:39:36,540 --> 01:39:42,580
ongoing, we make sure to incorporate that into that base budget. So next year, you know, you will

974
01:39:42,580 --> 01:39:45,240
see that continued increase.

975
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,520
I don't know if you have specific questions on these, and

976
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:59,600
then the next couple of slides were to provide you a narrative of the various FTE requests

977
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:59,960
That's it.

978
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:28,240
That we had, and the ones that we said preliminary, yes, we provided a narrative description of why that is being requested. That is based on the department's assessments of what their needs are, what is going to be able to assist them with continuing to provide the service levels that they have identified within their departments or areas that, you know, they need to increase because of growth or other factors.

979
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:34,320
So, I can stop at these slides, I don't know if now you want to go back to other slides

980
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:41,160
that identified nose or maybe's that like it was previously mentioned, or if anyone has

981
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,540
comments on position requests themselves.

982
01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:48,640
Council member Grimes.

983
01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:51,200
Thank you, Mayor.

984
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,280
I did have a question about the legal administrator position.

985
01:40:56,620 --> 01:41:04,260
The budgeted salary seems really low to me, and I'm wondering if that will be competitive enough to get a quality.

986
01:41:05,180 --> 01:41:08,500
It is low on the request slide, and there is a reason for that.

987
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:15,380
As we were having conversations with Mr. Sheasley, he identified another line item within his base budget that could be reduced.

988
01:41:15,940 --> 01:41:23,280
So instead of going back and reworking the base budget, we took that dollar amount that he identified and lowered it in the salary request.

989
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:30,720
So that is not the true annual salary, but that will cover the cost once we add in that base adjustment.

990
01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:37,240
I was going to answer it differently that I think that low wages drive productivity as an incentive to do better.

991
01:41:39,460 --> 01:41:47,160
The amount will be competitive and in line with what other communities do for legal administrators in the range of benefits.

992
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,920
I believe it was between 60 and 80 all in.

993
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,620
And that sounds much more like what I would have expected, may thank you.

994
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:04,340
Before we go back to those additional slides, I'd like to know from the community development standpoint,

995
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:12,060
they are overworked and what is the budget due to help with that and

996
01:42:12,060 --> 01:42:19,500
reduce some of the backlog and make sure that we meet the timetables that are said for development review.

997
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:20,440
Well,

998
01:42:24,090 --> 01:42:34,310
that's a great question mayor and I will tell you that is a question we have and I'm just not going to say it's community development.

999
01:42:34,810 --> 01:42:44,990
I think it's going to be our growth-related operations and quite frankly, that's the entire city in my estimation.

1000
01:42:44,990 --> 01:42:55,630
And the reason why I say that and, you know, internally, it's what I've kind of bandied around Roger can weigh in as well because he and I've had this conversation.

1001
01:42:57,070 --> 01:43:14,210
We are a city that's getting to a point which to no one's fault here around the table or at the time when initial counsels were thinking about where are we going to be at in two, five, seven, ten years.

1002
01:43:14,210 --> 01:43:20,090
years, 15 years, even in the early 2000s, nobody really knew because we were still finding

1003
01:43:20,090 --> 01:43:25,030
our sea legs as a city and I don't mean that negligence just was the reality.

1004
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:32,670
You look at us from 2000 to 2010, Congress City grew 248 percent, compared that to Adams

1005
01:43:32,670 --> 01:43:40,030
County, that's 95 percent, compared that to the front range, that's 48 percent.

1006
01:43:40,030 --> 01:43:47,430
We historically over the last five years have grown 3.3% year-over-year, whereas the rest

1007
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:50,870
of the front-range has grown 1 to 2%.

1008
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:58,710
So when you think about that, we were an organization in my estimation that was built,

1009
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:03,150
the service of community that was somewhere between 35 to 40,000 people.

1010
01:44:04,130 --> 01:44:09,270
Now as we started to see that rapid expansion, that rapid growth of our community, where

1011
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:16,570
where you fast forward 15 years or not really even 15 years, we are going to be slightly

1012
01:44:16,570 --> 01:44:22,390
below 70,000 people by the end of this year and what's been projected for next year

1013
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:29,210
will be at 75,000 if we continue along the same growth rate that we are expecting right

1014
01:44:29,210 --> 01:44:29,470
now.

1015
01:44:30,170 --> 01:44:37,890
Now the reason why I say that is what you see with either in community development, public

1016
01:44:37,890 --> 01:44:44,470
works, parks, rec and golf, or PD in response to the growth, because they're all into

1017
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:44,730
related.

1018
01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:45,650
Right?

1019
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:48,470
You throw that rock in the lake, you have those ripple effects.

1020
01:44:49,050 --> 01:44:54,670
So with what we do of bringing in new housing means new amenities, which means being able

1021
01:44:54,670 --> 01:44:56,450
to provide the necessary resources.

1022
01:44:56,890 --> 01:44:59,470
And with where we're at we're starting to hit

1023
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,360
The tip of that iceberg for the amount of staff, and I would tell you, with a plans examiner, just as an example, you probably need two or three more. With an inspector, you probably need three or four more. Planner two, development review engineer, probably three or four. But you then start to get into the question, can we afford ourselves? And part of that, and I think when Roger starts to think about what is our vision as a community, right?

1024
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,120
economic sustainability, financial sustainability, right?

1025
01:45:33,420 --> 01:45:39,220
How do we look at growing and structured and in a rate that were able to remain

1026
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,200
fiscally sustainable, and have a sustainable growth model that we can continue to keep

1027
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,580
providing the amenities and resources that all of our community members want?

1028
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:53,800
And that's where we're quite frankly, and once again, my first blush review of where we're at,

1029
01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:57,940
the critical pivot point for us as a city, and where we have to go.

1030
01:45:57,940 --> 01:46:05,620
So, how do we start to look at having development, start having and looking at some of the things that we provide, paying its way?

1031
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:16,320
Because, continuing the way we go down that path, we're going to get to that point where we're not going to be able to speak to having a positive fund balance.

1032
01:46:16,580 --> 01:46:26,240
Or being able to meet all of the necessary needs of being able to get things out within a six weeks, five weeks, four weeks, just because the workload and

1033
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:30,680
the responsibility and the capacities, not there, and we don't have the fiscal resources

1034
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,120
to support in being able to keep up with that new level of service expectation.

1035
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:45,540
So I'll go back to a slide and say, you'll see it in the City Manager's office is looking at what is our impact in user fees so

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01:46:45,540 --> 01:46:48,820
that we could start to think about how do we afford ourselves?

1037
01:46:49,260 --> 01:46:50,520
How do we position ourselves?

1038
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:57,000
Not necessarily saying that growth is bad, but how do we look at growth, and how do we look at other

1039
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:04,820
Opportunities and mechanisms to fund the things that we need up front and continue with that as we continue to grow as the chief mention

1040
01:47:04,820 --> 01:47:11,540
Our our growth is has been and will continue to be either sustained or exponential, right? Our comp plan

1041
01:47:11,540 --> 01:47:17,460
Identifies us to be at a hundred and eighty thousand people when it's all said and done at full build out

1042
01:47:18,620 --> 01:47:25,360
And, right, we're starting to see that development to start to bear that true, but it doesn't

1043
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:30,080
mean that we're not in a position to leverage that, to position ourselves, and to continue

1044
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:34,860
the evolution and the sophistication of our operations and ultimately what we deliver

1045
01:47:34,860 --> 01:47:37,060
to our community along that path.

1046
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:42,480
And so I would say what we've tried to attempt in community development is to be tactical in

1047
01:47:42,480 --> 01:48:10,220
our approach of knowing that right, what we can provide for, how and where we can provide space for our new staff looking at different options for adding new staff and continuing to provide what they need to be successful right resources tools and things of that nature with once again being able to continue to remain in the black from our operations so that we can continue to do that year over year.

1048
01:48:14,250 --> 01:48:29,510
Thank you. I think that's a great answer. I'm curious to two questions that come from that when we talk about full build out, when were we projected originally to reach full build out and full build out? And what is the current estimation of when we would reach that?

1049
01:48:30,650 --> 01:48:37,730
I can answer the first question because I haven't gone through the mathematics on the second, but in the first question, full build out was anticipated at 2040.

1050
01:48:37,730 --> 01:48:41,270
around there, around about with 180,000 people.

1051
01:48:42,970 --> 01:48:47,110
Historically, I'm looking to my friend to my left,

1052
01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:49,010
because I know she's a human calculator.

1053
01:48:50,710 --> 01:48:55,210
If we're looking at a 3.3 historic growth rate

1054
01:48:55,210 --> 01:48:58,130
over a five-year period, and even if you look at right,

1055
01:48:58,350 --> 01:49:02,370
there will be an eventual plateau of the market,

1056
01:49:02,450 --> 01:49:03,710
but that's cyclical in the nature,

1057
01:49:03,930 --> 01:49:06,010
so you'll have a low point, and then you'll have a high point.

1058
01:49:06,010 --> 01:49:15,430
I don't think we're ever good. My assumption, this is my gut, and I hope my gut's right, is that I don't think we'll get back down to the levels that were

1059
01:49:16,050 --> 01:49:23,530
pre-economic recession, so even then we're still growing at about 1.92 percent even during that time frame.

1060
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:26,150
So even if you look at that,

1061
01:49:26,150 --> 01:49:34,650
But my best guess is that you'll probably still be somewhere around that build out in and

1062
01:49:34,650 --> 01:49:38,730
around 2037, 2038, latest 2040.

1063
01:49:40,270 --> 01:49:45,110
Once again, that's just looking at the 3.3% growth rate and in fact during a couple years

1064
01:49:45,110 --> 01:49:45,570
at two.

1065
01:49:46,010 --> 01:49:48,510
Once again, that's just the best guess even off the top of my head.

1066
01:49:52,900 --> 01:49:57,540
I would like to direct everyone back to slide 15.

1067
01:49:58,860 --> 01:49:59,820
If you could go back

1068
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,820
Or whoever's running the show? Sorry. I

1069
01:50:07,370 --> 01:50:34,160
think slide 15, I mean, Cheryl covered it, but it's the impact of that that I want to direct you to. So what we did was took all of the base budget, took all of the requests, and figured out, okay, what number can we afford? That's based on the revenue estimate.

1070
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,580
So we

1071
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,920
started with the $5 million that we had to work with.

1072
01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:51,660
We looked at, okay, where are we at in terms of reappropriation positions because that's

1073
01:50:51,660 --> 01:50:53,720
a gift that keeps on giving every year.

1074
01:50:54,220 --> 01:50:55,300
You pay for those positions.

1075
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:04,320
Reappropriations and then also the preliminary yeses that we, the preliminary requests we

1076
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,820
we said yes to, which was basically another $5 million.

1077
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:16,520
So right now as we stand, the recommendation puts us into the red by $1.3 million.

1078
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:23,520
So in other words, with the recommendations that I'm giving you, we would be dipping into

1079
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,420
fund balance, $1.3 million.

1080
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,140
Now, most of that is for one-time items.

1081
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,740
I feel okay dipping into fund balance for one-time items.

1082
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:42,740
I'm not okay with dipping into fund balance to pay for positions because that means ongoing

1083
01:51:42,740 --> 01:51:44,780
deficits year after year after year.

1084
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:51,580
So just wanted to back up to this slide because it gives a basic philosophy of how I've tried

1085
01:51:51,580 --> 01:51:57,840
to approach this in terms of what can we afford back to Jason's comments, what can we

1086
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:04,400
afford on an ongoing basis because we're responsible for the financial sustainability of

1087
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:05,380
this organization.

1088
01:52:06,820 --> 01:52:12,940
So I don't know if that answers some of the questions, but again, Jason's absolutely

1089
01:52:12,940 --> 01:52:20,240
right on point, we need more people in community development, in public works, in police department.

1090
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:27,700
It comes back to what's the balance in terms of what do we absolutely have to have?

1091
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:37,580
versus what would be good to have, but not absolutely central at this point in light of the revenue availability.

1092
01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:45,640
And so I just wanted to encapsulate that as you move forward, thinking about these positions and requests for additional positions.

1093
01:52:48,060 --> 01:52:59,280
Thank you, and I appreciate both those answers, and to my colleagues on the council, I think that what we're hearing is we're going to have to start looking at how it is.

1094
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:03,580
is that we supplement our budget in order to accommodate the amount of growth that we're having.

1095
01:53:04,220 --> 01:53:08,040
I tell people all the time the year over year, we've been growing at 3000 residents and

1096
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,740
there's communities that won't do that in a decade and we've been doing a year over year over year.

1097
01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:15,700
But at the same time, we continue to hemorrhage money on every house that gets built in the city.

1098
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:21,060
And we are not collecting enough revenue to cover that house for the garbage alone.

1099
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,640
But then whenever you add in the need to provide police services, public works, park and recreation,

1100
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:33,300
All the other amenities that a city is providing, we are losing on that, and we're going to have to think of a way that we can go about

1101
01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:40,960
recouping some of that. And that's why whenever Mr. Rogers mentioned the study on impact fees, we're going to have to look at that.

1102
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:49,120
That's going to be something that we're going to have to explore, whether or not we need to be charging more for development in this city, in order to be able to

1103
01:53:49,120 --> 01:54:15,160
to stave off us waking up two years, three years down the road and go on what did we do, you know, and I really believe that right now we are at a tipping point where if we don't make a decision, we're very soon over what is taking place, then we're going to lose control, and we're going to be stuck in a situation where it's going to take us even that much further to recover from where we are, so as we have those conversations, I'd like you to keep those things in mind. Councilmember Herst.

1104
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:15,960
Thank

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01:54:19,990 --> 01:54:20,130
you.

1106
01:54:20,970 --> 01:54:27,150
To build off the mayor's comment, I think that's a key fundamental portion of what we're

1107
01:54:27,150 --> 01:54:31,410
talking about because Roger, I can appreciate living within our means, by all means.

1108
01:54:32,930 --> 01:54:34,130
We have to do that, right?

1109
01:54:34,530 --> 01:54:38,510
Especially when these economic times were the lot of unknowns in the next couple of years.

1110
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:47,690
But I do still question or ponder, can we bet on ourselves in a sense where we know we're

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01:54:47,690 --> 01:54:48,090
going to grow?

1112
01:54:48,090 --> 01:54:54,630
So we don't see slow down here in terms of overall growth and getting in front of that while

1113
01:54:54,630 --> 01:54:59,850
kind of obviously the comment that the mayor just made is important.

1114
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,880
I'm pleased to that. But, you know, can we kind of maybe not dip and pay for a new position for one year, but expect to maybe see a bit of a loss for two to three years just to get in front, get the processing of new businesses and everything approved and done and then it'll that'll in and of itself ended up paying ourselves back by kind of that new development. I haven't seen the numbers and how that would work out. But to me, I'd be willing to bet on ourselves

1115
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:35,900
a little bit just to get in front of our growth with staff and then allow it to pay itself back

1116
01:55:35,900 --> 01:55:38,820
as the development starts to come, you know, to fruition.

1117
01:55:39,700 --> 01:55:42,860
There are certain positions. Sorry.

1118
01:55:43,700 --> 01:55:49,040
There are certain positions where we could do that, but universally we can't do that.

1119
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:58,020
And I guess that's really just focused on, from my perspective, that part of the discussion,

1120
01:55:58,020 --> 01:56:04,680
public safety and as well as kind of the approval side of all of our

1121
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,960
permitting process or development process because as you're approving those

1122
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,240
you're seeing you know attacks revenue bill the at least on the commercial or

1123
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,620
the or the business side and then you know a bigger discussion to be how to

1124
01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:19,520
about impact fees for residential development.

1125
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:29,480
Thank you Mayor Hughesman. You make a

1126
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:56,700
good point, by the way, and it does concern me as well, and I wonder about continuing to approve projects if they can't pay their way and until we can find a way for them to pay their way, maybe we need to think about the speed at which these are being approved.

1127
01:56:56,700 --> 01:57:07,940
I would like to also ask, in particular, about the American Rescue Plan, and so we have

1128
01:57:07,940 --> 01:57:16,560
$10 million coming in and two tranches, and restoration of COVID-19-based budget decreases

1129
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:21,160
is part of the budget for virtually every department.

1130
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:29,760
My understanding is that American Rescue Plan Funds can be utilized to replace what was

1131
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,340
lost the previous year.

1132
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:40,640
And have we considered using a portion of the American Rescue Plan Funds to make up

1133
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:48,660
that difference so that we actually have more money to do more in the upcoming budget?

1134
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:55,280
Yes. Some of the requests that were listed on the list that was taken to

1135
01:57:55,280 --> 01:58:03,920
council did exactly that. Now, again, it's up to council how those

1136
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:10,180
monies are directed and my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong, but my

1137
01:58:10,180 --> 01:58:14,220
understanding is that you want to at least the bulk of the money aimed at

1138
01:58:14,220 --> 01:58:22,300
homelessness. So, again, we'll have to go through and sort out how much money do you

1139
01:58:22,300 --> 01:58:29,900
want to dedicate to that versus how much do you want to aim at some of the items that

1140
01:58:29,900 --> 01:58:31,820
were requested by departments.

1141
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:43,320
And if I may, Roger, to the first question about why keep approving projects today, if

1142
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:49,140
we know right now development or we have a better opportunity for development to pay its

1143
01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:56,620
way. And I will share with you just from maybe my professional opinion and past experience

1144
01:58:56,620 --> 01:59:04,540
in that that is a double edged sword. Yes, growth and development growing at the city

1145
01:59:04,540 --> 01:59:12,860
at a rampant pace causes the issues, the concerns, the constraints that we're all talking about

1146
01:59:12,860 --> 01:59:19,020
around this table, at the same time when you take an action in response of that with respect

1147
01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:23,860
to growth and development. The thing that we haven't been able to look at because we

1148
01:59:23,860 --> 01:59:30,820
don't have is that long-term growth model. What is that growth model and the sustainability

1149
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:36,400
around that growth model? And by, for lack of better words, going into a more

1150
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:59,920
Torium on approving the development until we continue to work through the complexities of your impact fees and your diversification of what you collect impact fees on and your user fees, it does send a message out to the development community for those that is generating those impacts, but at the same time those that you're looking to attract and

1151
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,240
We're wanting to come to your city as well. Because if you're looking at, let's just first scenario say slowing down residential development, we've all heard either through site selectors or through our staff or through others who have seen the benefits of growth and being able to track retail is an example of that, right? Growth is driving response in certain sectors in certain asset classes. Now, by being able to undertake the studying, being able to go through the process,

1152
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:35,660
is concurrently, while the government is growing, still allows us to still have those transparent,

1153
02:00:35,940 --> 02:00:41,120
forthright, and presentation of factual conversations with the development community about, hey,

1154
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:45,100
commerce city is going from the kid who's playing basketball in the backyard.

1155
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:49,120
That person who's playing in the front yard and call us showing off our skills.

1156
02:00:49,660 --> 02:00:56,420
Right, we're growing, we're becoming more modernized, and we're stepping up to the plate to really look at how we provide

1157
02:00:56,420 --> 02:01:06,880
provide for the resources for the amenities and the continued building of our infrastructure to meet that new challenge of where we're going as a city.

1158
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:22,720
As opposed to just saying stop, we're going to take a moment because like I said, that has the ability to send a different message that then starts to divert the attention from Commer City to other cities in and around.

1159
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:28,860
which then trying to pick that back up after we've had that start is a hurricane effort as well.

1160
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:37,440
So, right, we're in a position where we can take a calculated risk knowing that growth of development is going to occur and

1161
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:43,260
being able to undertake this effort and being able still to get something in front of the council for

1162
02:01:43,260 --> 02:01:48,580
your deliberation, for your form decision making about where you want to be able to position the city,

1163
02:01:48,580 --> 02:01:56,020
for the short term, midterm, and long term future in a relevant, in a relevant, quick time frame.

1164
02:01:59,570 --> 02:02:12,470
I am still concerned though if it costs the city more to support the new homes that it is an imbalance that we can't sustain.

1165
02:02:12,470 --> 02:02:15,990
It's the same issue that comes up with the schools.

1166
02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:24,630
We're approving projects without knowing that the school bond will be approved in November, for example.

1167
02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:31,330
And if for some reason it isn't, then we find ourselves in a very difficult position.

1168
02:02:31,850 --> 02:02:38,990
I don't believe that our rooftops or population is an issue as I noted at an earlier meeting.

1169
02:02:39,570 --> 02:02:46,450
other communities that are much smaller than ours actually have several of these retailers

1170
02:02:46,450 --> 02:02:51,270
that we've discussed before that it hasn't been about the population.

1171
02:02:51,270 --> 02:02:57,710
We have over 40,000 people living in the north, for example, over, you know, almost 65,000

1172
02:02:57,710 --> 02:02:58,710
in Commerce City alone.

1173
02:02:59,250 --> 02:03:04,550
So it is a worthwhile discussion for us to have in the future, but I do hope that we are

1174
02:03:04,550 --> 02:03:08,050
looking at the American Rescue Plan Fund to help fill in some of these gaps.

1175
02:03:08,050 --> 02:03:21,850
And to be able to do more for a commerce city, then we have, and to look at it in a far different way than we have because we have opportunities now that we didn't necessarily have a year ago.

1176
02:03:22,510 --> 02:03:22,990
Thank you.

1177
02:03:27,570 --> 02:03:28,250
Thank you.

1178
02:03:28,250 --> 02:03:46,350
Also on slide number 29 going back a little bit, can someone just explain to me what it means when it says increased funding for outside services, high in their park facility, but it was, it's no, so I'm just trying to understand what that is.

1179
02:03:46,350 --> 02:03:47,410
Bear

1180
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,880
with me one moment, ma'am, slide 29.

1181
02:04:02,180 --> 02:04:13,740
Yeah, where it says increase funding for outside services, pie in their park facility, 15,000, and it's no public works.

1182
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:27,980
While you're fine, go ahead.

1183
02:04:28,260 --> 02:04:32,360
Yes ma'am, at the time when we had the initial request,

1184
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:39,880
we were seeking additional information from public works as it related to.

1185
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:47,820
the item and we've received that request and we were still deliberating that

1186
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:52,100
internally based on that information.

1187
02:04:58,750 --> 02:04:59,570
What we were

1188
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,760
Looking at initially was what we're seeing is a significant request. Obviously, vandalism related repairs, repairs to various facilities located with respect to that. Once again, bathrooms, vandalism graffiti, things of that nature, in which, with the expenditures versus the budgeted amount, we were coming in over and

1189
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:36,200
above that. So, when we had that initial conversation, like I said, we were still

1190
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:42,660
deliberating that internally with it being, as I have it on my files, and maybe, Cheryl,

1191
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:44,160
you can correct me, we had it as a maybe.

1192
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,740
Okay. So, that's something we'll have to clean

1193
02:05:48,740 --> 02:05:58,400
up internally, but that was generally the reason why we had it as an initial decision

1194
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:06,560
that level? Because I'm just confused like when I went through the whole budget, I think myself and

1195
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:13,120
other council members and the mayor brought up concerns about I'm Pioneer Park and Monaco Park and

1196
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:20,740
I didn't see that addressed anywhere in the next year's budget either and then I believe we were told

1197
02:06:20,740 --> 02:06:27,860
there wasn't any money for this year's budget so where is that then and then also a concern with

1198
02:06:27,860 --> 02:06:36,440
the Pioneer Park facilities, who's responsible for the upkeep along, like the storage facility.

1199
02:06:36,660 --> 02:06:42,980
There's the fence that's all along, that's down all along that park, so would that include

1200
02:06:42,980 --> 02:06:47,480
like the outside services, because I was wondering why that is, and know, and then where is the

1201
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:53,420
budgeting, like I said, to possibly install those gates for safety at the Pioneer Park and

1202
02:06:53,420 --> 02:06:55,800
and the safety concerns at Monaco Park.

1203
02:06:57,500 --> 02:07:00,680
We've been working with the property owner

1204
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,520
to the south of Pioneer Park, is there a fence?

1205
02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:09,640
What they have as a problem is that trucks keep backing

1206
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,560
into that fence and knocking it over.

1207
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:15,580
They were proposing these big Jersey barriers

1208
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:20,200
and I think staff talked to them about putting in ballards

1209
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,620
instead so that discussion is occurring

1210
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:27,420
that it's their responsibility to fix that fence, that's their fence.

1211
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,320
In terms of gates on the park,

1212
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,360
we discuss that and

1213
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:41,860
quite honestly think that's inconsistent with a park.

1214
02:07:42,740 --> 02:07:48,280
But again, open to discussion on that, but a park is for

1215
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,200
use for people to enjoy.

1216
02:07:50,200 --> 02:08:04,860
And so I fundamentally question whether, you know, putting gates on the parking lot for a park is really consistent with what we're trying to provide.

1217
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:34,080
Well, if it's consistent, I believe the chief was the one, you know, that suggested if I recall correctly, but even if we don't install gates, you know, how are they going to, like said, I know I repeatedly requested if gates aren't an option, you know, have we looked into possibly contracting with another outside company just to kind of patrol area more, you know, because ever since I've been on Council Monaco Park and

1218
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:40,520
and pioneer park or safety concerns for the residents living in those areas and I still

1219
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:45,500
don't see it addressed anywhere in the next year's budget either not necessarily gates

1220
02:08:45,500 --> 02:08:50,340
but how are they going to do something that addresses concern for those residents living

1221
02:08:50,340 --> 02:08:54,280
in those areas and I don't see it anywhere in the budget at all.

1222
02:09:05,820 --> 02:09:11,620
Part of that is with the, part of the answer to that is it's multifaceted.

1223
02:09:11,620 --> 02:09:18,440
But one is park ranger, that's not going to cure anything or everything for everyone.

1224
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:21,380
I know that, but it's a start of a program.

1225
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:30,160
In addition, as I recall, we included money for the pop-up trailer that

1226
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:37,460
it's a pop-up

1227
02:09:37,460 --> 02:09:46,040
camera that is an aid in terms of reminding people that they're being watched and that, you

1228
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:51,840
know, we have a presence. So it's a variety of measures like that that we're attempting

1229
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:55,320
to do this without breaking the budget, basically.

1230
02:09:56,660 --> 02:09:59,960
So then there, if I'm correct, then there is, it's just-

1231
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,460
It's been like thrown away for next year to, you know, period to address those concerns with Pioneer Park and Monaco Park, like even I, I thought we brought up increasing the lighting as well. It's not just the gates. It's other things that I thought was going to be looked into. So that's just totally was placed on the back burner again for another year in 2022. Well, again, we're trying various measures that, you know, in combination, hopefully have an impact.

1232
02:10:29,460 --> 02:10:38,000
But again, just trying different measures basically without, again, going to the most expensive

1233
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:38,480
ones.

1234
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:40,080
Okay.

1235
02:10:40,380 --> 02:10:41,380
Like I said, what are they?

1236
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:43,880
What are we trying to size the cameras?

1237
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:47,760
And like I said, I would like to see something in the budget for that.

1238
02:10:48,180 --> 02:10:52,740
I'm not just talking about the case, I know we had talked about lighting because we get continuous

1239
02:10:53,300 --> 02:10:58,360
complaints from residents and constituents in those areas and they're still not addressed.

1240
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:17,720
So I would like to see that and then as far as the positions I was curious with the talent acquisition specialist we don't have one currently the which position of the talent acquisition specialist talent out acquisition specialist we don't the

1241
02:11:19,900 --> 02:11:24,520
generalist and the HR department are doing the recruitment board departments.

1242
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:36,980
Thank you because I said I was just curious about that because if we did have one I was going to ask why couldn't they be promoted to higher level position.

1243
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:46,220
Like I said, I still don't understand why that the parks are not in here. I'm paying their park and Monaco and it's not just the gates.

1244
02:11:46,220 --> 02:11:55,560
So I would, you know, I've continuously repeated that and I think the mayor and other council, council members have addressed that and I don't see it anywhere on here.

1245
02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:19,040
I'll move to the next slide.

1246
02:12:20,340 --> 02:12:24,100
This slide shows you various budget balancing options.

1247
02:12:24,460 --> 02:12:37,040
Here's where we are looking for some directions so that as we continue to move through the budget process we know which numbers request to incorporate at this stage of the game so that the next time we talk to you,

1248
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,720
we can move on, you know, to the next topic.

1249
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:43,500
So we could approve the base budgets as presented,

1250
02:12:43,900 --> 02:12:46,460
which are included in the numbers you've seen tonight.

1251
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:50,060
We could approve the base budget plus all the yeses.

1252
02:12:50,260 --> 02:12:51,840
We've shown you tonight.

1253
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:56,520
We could approve base budget plus only new position requests,

1254
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:00,060
base budget, yes decisions and new positions,

1255
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:04,560
some other modification of those various items I mentioned.

1256
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:10,180
We could consider base budget reductions which would require us to go back to the departments

1257
02:13:10,180 --> 02:13:17,700
and talk about their ability to reduce any line items or we could approve the CM recommendations

1258
02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:24,880
as we brought forth tonight which would show the use of 1.3 million in fund balance as presented.

1259
02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:35,370
I want to move to this next slide just really quick while you're thinking about that for discussion.

1260
02:13:35,370 --> 02:13:39,770
There are some items that are going to be subject to change throughout the process and

1261
02:13:39,770 --> 02:13:41,870
I wanted to be able to highlight those for you.

1262
02:13:42,130 --> 02:13:48,210
So obviously we will be incorporating any additions or changes per your direction based

1263
02:13:48,210 --> 02:13:49,130
on these discussions.

1264
02:13:49,710 --> 02:13:54,730
We will continue to look at our revenue estimates and it is likely those will change as we have

1265
02:13:54,730 --> 02:13:57,770
more months of data for the 2021 year.

1266
02:13:58,710 --> 02:14:04,510
In addition to that, as salaries and benefits are changing with performance evaluations happening,

1267
02:14:04,510 --> 02:14:11,710
that changes base budget, so those numbers will be amended in the budget as we bring those forward.

1268
02:14:13,070 --> 02:14:18,310
Any benefit plan increases that are identified, HR is in the process right now of working

1269
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:27,430
through with our benefit contacts. We did go out for RFP this year correct and so we do not have

1270
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:33,630
the numbers yet. Armando was able to give me an estimation to incorporate into the base numbers,

1271
02:14:33,630 --> 02:14:37,990
but that could change, so I want to make sure, you know, there could potentially still be some fluctuation with that.

1272
02:14:38,630 --> 02:14:44,770
And then our internal service fund allocations will also change. We will update the allocation as we go forward.

1273
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:53,390
Based on the discussion in the direction you give us, we will incorporate some of those requests into those allocations so that can change numbers too.

1274
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:59,290
So just like to point out that we're still in the preliminary stages of this and things are still subject to change.

1275
02:14:59,290 --> 02:14:59,810
some numbers.

1276
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,620
We'll look different each time we come and talk to you, and we will try to identify those for you as we work through the process.

1277
02:15:10,180 --> 02:15:14,060
That being said, I'll go back to the budget balancing slide.

1278
02:15:18,580 --> 02:15:35,660
And thank you. I think what I'm hearing from some council members is they'd like to see some additions to the budget to take care of some of the issues that have been hanging over the city. And it goes back to my question of, you know, how much money is available for that council directed spending to say, you know,

1279
02:15:35,660 --> 02:15:42,220
I'd like to address this issue and this is how and how much money do we have to spend that so I don't know that there's an answer

1280
02:15:42,220 --> 02:15:48,140
They can be provided this evening, but you know the parks and the safety and the parks is of grave concern and

1281
02:15:48,140 --> 02:15:50,530
You know, I while I agree that

1282
02:15:51,620 --> 02:15:56,360
Park is open and available for people to enjoy. I think we also passed an ordinance

1283
02:15:56,360 --> 02:16:01,780
It said parks close at a certain hour and trying to make sure that parks are not overrun by

1284
02:16:01,780 --> 02:16:07,180
by groups of individuals and making it so that they're not enjoyable by community members.

1285
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:15,480
I think there's also an issue the other morning whenever I was touring one of the parks with the resident and the motor home that was parked there overnight.

1286
02:16:16,180 --> 02:16:19,760
And in the past, the dirty diapers had been thrown out of the motor home and

1287
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,080
thrown on the left on the ground and things like that.

1288
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:30,500
So there's a need for balance in trying to determine how is it that we can make the parks

1289
02:16:30,500 --> 02:16:38,320
It looks accessible to everybody and not allow a select few to make it so that it's not a desirable place to take your family.

1290
02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:53,360
And those are, I think what Council member Alan Thomas is trying to drive at, that these were options that were presented to us to consider from the live view system and the cameras, which of course that could try and can we get IT to support that too?

1291
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:55,300
do we close down the parks at certain hours?

1292
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:57,600
Do we put gates up, solar powered gates to where,

1293
02:16:57,660 --> 02:17:00,300
what do we do to make sure that the next morning,

1294
02:17:00,300 --> 02:17:01,960
whenever people want to go out for their morning walk,

1295
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:04,680
they have a clean, safe, enjoyable park to be able to use?

1296
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:09,980
And so that challenge of how do you provide access to everybody,

1297
02:17:09,980 --> 02:17:12,900
but at the same time, make sure that it's meeting

1298
02:17:12,900 --> 02:17:14,480
the needs of a community amenity,

1299
02:17:14,620 --> 02:17:18,560
I think is what you're being asked to come up with a solution for.

1300
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:21,460
And as Councilman Rontalma said,

1301
02:17:21,460 --> 02:17:23,740
And that solution isn't reflected in the budget.

1302
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:30,260
So what is that solution cost and is that something that council wants to vote on in order to include in the budget?

1303
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:33,500
Without knowing the cost of it, we don't know whether or not we want to include it.

1304
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:41,140
In past, we have come into budget planning sessions and we've had our little sheets that show how much a certain thing is going to cost.

1305
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:47,800
And we've gone through the process of saying, okay, I'd like to get this approved and council has said, yes or no, we're going to approve that stuff.

1306
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:52,500
And I don't see that in this process this year, and maybe that's in a future meeting.

1307
02:17:53,060 --> 02:18:07,380
And again, that goes back to how much money is available for us to take care of some of these issues that have been nagging at us and the issue itself and not the residents and making sure that we're able to solve these solutions to provide a better community for our residents.

1308
02:18:18,980 --> 02:18:19,600
Council Member Nair.

1309
02:18:20,820 --> 02:18:22,280
Yeah, I got a couple questions.

1310
02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:30,120
One is for the substation, you said that you budgeted the money for the initial planning.

1311
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:33,500
When's the initial planning going to be completed?

1312
02:18:38,180 --> 02:18:42,500
Yeah, we might also go into the CIPP, that's where it is.

1313
02:18:43,220 --> 02:18:45,200
We can come back to this other stuff later.

1314
02:18:46,020 --> 02:18:57,400
So, to give you basically overview of what the CIP process involves, we have a framework

1315
02:18:57,400 --> 02:19:04,180
that we use, and I'll cover that, and I'll talk about the requests that have come in,

1316
02:19:04,820 --> 02:19:10,520
as well as identifying the funding sources, and then how we plan for capital maintenance

1317
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:17,300
and providing information, so let's move ahead, whoever's running the show.

1318
02:19:18,660 --> 02:19:19,580
Thank you.

1319
02:19:20,260 --> 02:19:25,200
So the framework is that we have traditional capital projects and

1320
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:30,580
those are what you think of as the big construction projects.

1321
02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:34,280
So widening a road, building a building, that type of thing.

1322
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:38,420
And so those are easy to talk about.

1323
02:19:38,420 --> 02:19:44,900
But we also have operational capital projects, which are things like signals,

1324
02:19:45,260 --> 02:19:52,440
bridge replacements, warning towers, sidewalk connections, all of that kind of ongoing stuff that we need to do.

1325
02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:59,320
And then there's preservation projects, and those are long-term asset maintenance type of projects.

1326
02:19:59,320 --> 02:19:59,540
Thanks.

1327
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,980
Whether it's replacement of a road or flat work or replacement of amenities in the parks, that type of thing. So, again, you know, trying to balance both maintenance, ongoing maintenance with new projects. So move on, please. Well, I guess. You know, the reason I was asking is because I was going to propose a different funding source that could perhaps, you know, over time, free up funding for some of these other

1328
02:20:29,980 --> 02:20:37,480
programs. Could I think public safety is important to everyone and undertaking a project

1329
02:20:37,710 --> 02:20:46,640
of that size is going to cost a lot. So what's the possibility of having a bond issuance

1330
02:20:47,260 --> 02:20:54,900
and a middle-ever increase for building that Northern sub-station and continued operation?

1331
02:20:54,900 --> 02:21:02,440
them. Well, I'll get into that in a moment, but to answer your question, excuse me directly,

1332
02:21:03,700 --> 02:21:10,060
a city wide bond issue would require a city wide vote of the voters to authorize issuing

1333
02:21:10,060 --> 02:21:19,380
the debt and also the increased mill levied to pay for that. I've proposed that we look

1334
02:21:19,380 --> 02:21:27,320
at the NIGID for part of the funding for a substation in the north and so that's part

1335
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:34,680
of the mix of how do we fund those major projects like that. I think at the point where

1336
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:40,400
we build a substation the general fund will need to contribute as well, not just the NIGID.

1337
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:48,260
But again, being able to use the NIGID depends on the voters approving, expanding the purpose

1338
02:21:48,260 --> 02:21:56,760
of the tax for the NIGID and also authorizing issuance of debt at some point.

1339
02:21:57,620 --> 02:22:03,480
So it's a little, because I think, you know, this is something that I should go out to vote.

1340
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:09,220
And, you know, if it's not something that we do this year, then, you know,

1341
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:12,480
the next vote likely wouldn't be for another two years.

1342
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:19,320
So is this something that we need to start thinking about now is it too late for this

1343
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:25,600
election since it's coming up pretty soon or is this something that we're working towards

1344
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:26,660
in the future?

1345
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:34,740
Well, the Council sitting as the NIGID Board has authorized the ballot measure.

1346
02:22:35,300 --> 02:22:38,080
There's actually two questions that you approved.

1347
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:46,360
and one is expanding, broadening the purpose of the tax revenue to allow paying for

1348
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:47,320
ongoing projects.

1349
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:55,600
And the second question then is to authorize the issuance of debt at some point in the future,

1350
02:22:56,120 --> 02:23:01,260
most likely phased in over several years in terms of the amounts of money.

1351
02:23:01,260 --> 02:23:09,100
because Chambers Road needs to be rebuilt, widened, 96th Avenue has to be widened.

1352
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:16,660
Continuation of 112th Avenue widening, all of those type of road projects need to be done.

1353
02:23:17,620 --> 02:23:24,320
We're talking about the need for a park on the land surrounding the Buffalo, I'm sorry,

1354
02:23:24,460 --> 02:23:30,540
the Bison Ridge Recreation Center. There's also a need for drainage improvements

1355
02:23:31,260 --> 02:23:36,260
in second creek, you know, so those are all the type of needs that exist right within

1356
02:23:36,260 --> 02:23:39,780
the NIGID boundaries or borders as it exists.

1357
02:23:40,380 --> 02:23:44,800
So I guess, you know, the way I see it is, you know, everyone recognizes the need for

1358
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:52,400
public safety which, you know, similar to how you have your fire department, you know, special

1359
02:23:52,400 --> 02:24:00,620
district. I think it's an easier sell having something more specific and instead of taking

1360
02:24:00,620 --> 02:24:06,220
taking away from the NIG and all these other projects that are needed and that we're going

1361
02:24:06,220 --> 02:24:12,700
to need to build over time as we grow and the needs are already there as it is.

1362
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:23,060
So I guess I think if we were able to create a new revenue stream this could help us future

1363
02:24:23,060 --> 02:24:28,700
budgets to allocate more resources for all these other needs that we've been talking about

1364
02:24:28,700 --> 02:24:35,860
because we recognize that our revenue is not growing consistently with our needs and our costs.

1365
02:24:36,900 --> 02:24:41,000
And so at some point, we're going to need to find new sources of revenue.

1366
02:24:42,220 --> 02:24:45,720
And our current model is based on sales and use tax.

1367
02:24:46,540 --> 02:24:55,620
So unless we're planning on growing businesses exponentially to catch up with the residential,

1368
02:24:57,360 --> 02:24:59,800
then we need to start coming up with some of these.

1369
02:25:00,620 --> 02:25:30,460
Other sources that are more direct funding by the residents and put it out to vote, you know, and let them decide because I think, you know, as we've heard, these are some of the things that we hear on and on and, you know, it never stops. So, you know, I think something having something specific could really help us to increase that funding and help, you know, some of the growing

1370
02:25:30,460 --> 02:25:36,720
pain that we're experiencing, because our bread and butter is industry and people don't

1371
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:44,540
want to see an explosion of industry to help cover the cause for the ongoing growth

1372
02:25:44,540 --> 02:25:45,160
of residential.

1373
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:53,320
So just something that I wanted to put out there to consider and discuss as a council.

1374
02:25:53,900 --> 02:26:00,020
And then, you know, going back to the parks, I just, I'm not crazy of shutting down the

1375
02:26:00,020 --> 02:26:04,400
parks and gates because I saw it happen in the park at park by my house.

1376
02:26:05,900 --> 02:26:11,540
And what you see is, you know, people stop using the park and now, you know, there's

1377
02:26:11,540 --> 02:26:16,840
nowhere for them to come in and park because they put a gate and barrier on the parking lot.

1378
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:36,440
And so, you know, while it does, you know, solve some problems, then it creates other problems where now the people that we're using it, you know, as a park and using it for its intended purposes, they're not able to use it for those same purposes and to enjoy those.

1379
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:47,200
So, you know, I just think when we do think of solutions for parks, you've got to consider kind of everything that goes along with it.

1380
02:26:53,170 --> 02:26:53,350
Okay.

1381
02:26:54,850 --> 02:27:07,990
So, in terms of the current identified needs in the capital improvement program, drainage projects, one and a half million estimated for purchasing irondale properties.

1382
02:27:07,990 --> 02:27:18,970
45,000 for Fairfax Park, and that's just designed for drainage improvements there.

1383
02:27:19,610 --> 02:27:26,430
We also have a request for 500,000 for ragweed draw, and that'd be a crossing under the

1384
02:27:26,430 --> 02:27:27,190
O'Brien Canal.

1385
02:27:27,890 --> 02:27:37,430
And then funding sources are basically transportation tax, general fund, and what's called direct

1386
02:27:37,430 --> 02:27:44,170
flow area 53, so it's DFA 53 fee, that's an impact fee.

1387
02:27:44,810 --> 02:27:52,650
And then in terms of park's recreation golf, the requests are $4 million for improving

1388
02:27:52,650 --> 02:27:54,730
the golf course irrigation system.

1389
02:27:56,090 --> 02:28:00,210
Funding sources would include Adams County open space and lottery money.

1390
02:28:00,210 --> 02:28:07,750
And then also 71,000 for a disc golf course, that would be park impact fee.

1391
02:28:08,390 --> 02:28:19,390
And then in street projects, requests of 19,977,000, and funding sources would be whole wide variety.

1392
02:28:19,590 --> 02:28:28,570
General fund, highway user tax, my high Greyhound park, urban renewal area, NID, road impact fee, solid waste,

1393
02:28:28,570 --> 02:28:35,410
transportation tax and also 2K fund balance. So the estimated total for all of those projects is

1394
02:28:35,410 --> 02:28:42,930
over 28 million. Next slide please. Funding sources sort of touched on all of that already.

1395
02:28:43,390 --> 02:28:51,950
Next slide. Just as a reminder 2K is a one-cent sales and use tax increase and that's used to fund

1396
02:28:51,950 --> 02:28:58,590
projects and the maintenance of those projects and then initially all the money was dedicated

1397
02:28:58,590 --> 02:29:04,950
to five major development projects and those were collaboratively chosen by residents

1398
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:14,830
and city officials. 38 million of the available bonding capacity is still available. The only

1399
02:29:14,830 --> 02:29:19,930
caution I would give is that we need to have adequate revenue to repay the debt if we

1400
02:29:19,930 --> 02:29:28,890
issued those bonds. And the other factor about 2K is that it may also fund capital projects

1401
02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:34,410
on a pay-as-you-go basis. So that gives us flexibility. Next slide, please.

1402
02:29:36,990 --> 02:29:46,070
There are some policy questions that we need to hash out, and that is the possibility

1403
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:52,290
of amending the policy for transfers from general fund, and also amending the contingency

1404
02:29:52,290 --> 02:29:59,950
policy, there's a 5% contingency that's set aside for every project, and then that

1405
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:17,480
That money stays basically in the fund balance, so trying to figure out, how do we count for that and basically reuse that money later when the project is done. And then also loans and transfers for non-traditional projects. Next slide.

1406
02:30:21,190 --> 02:30:30,430
Okay, apologize. There's tons of stuff on this slide. You have it in your packet. So basically,

1407
02:30:32,390 --> 02:30:38,630
For example, running down the preservation projects, bridge maintenance is the first item.

1408
02:30:38,910 --> 02:30:42,870
And then Buffalo Run Golf Course Irrigation, city parking lot maintenance.

1409
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:48,910
We have a number of parking lots that are getting in a little tough shape.

1410
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:54,830
Core city improvements, facility assessment projects, those are the projects that were presented to you.

1411
02:30:55,210 --> 02:30:59,110
I want to say two weeks ago or four weeks ago in a study session.

1412
02:31:00,430 --> 02:31:05,850
Payment management, PRG, preservation projects, which is like replacing playground structures

1413
02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:20,550
supplementing the sand, whatever it's called, in ball fields. So long range striping, MSC,

1414
02:31:20,710 --> 02:31:26,930
material storage bays, street reconstruction, and traffic signal maintenance. And so the funding

1415
02:31:26,930 --> 02:31:33,450
The funding sources are a variety of funding sources for those and we have a limited amount of revenue that comes in.

1416
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:41,570
So what we try to do is balance the projects and the funding by year with the revenue that's available.

1417
02:31:41,990 --> 02:31:51,330
And so you see 2022 on through 2026 in terms of how those projects will be funded over the various years.

1418
02:31:51,330 --> 02:31:58,910
A street project from start to finish can take five, six, seven years, just depending on the complexity.

1419
02:31:59,630 --> 02:32:06,690
First few years is design and then you get into right-of-way acquisition and then you actually get into construction.

1420
02:32:07,070 --> 02:32:10,810
And so just design is usually a year by itself.

1421
02:32:11,190 --> 02:32:16,690
And then you get into right-of-way acquisition and environmental impact and all of that type of stuff.

1422
02:32:16,690 --> 02:32:21,690
and you're talking another year very likely before you actually get into construction.

1423
02:32:22,030 --> 02:32:28,430
And so that's why a lot of these fundings for these projects are spread out over a number of years.

1424
02:32:29,110 --> 02:32:33,950
In the case where we don't have enough money, it's a matter of laying aside enough money

1425
02:32:33,950 --> 02:32:36,750
to actually fund the project in a future year.

1426
02:32:37,870 --> 02:32:44,730
In terms of operational projects, we have ADA compliance and Parks Recreation Golf Flatwork,

1427
02:32:44,730 --> 02:32:53,210
which is primarily for, again, making sure that we're compliant in terms of ADA access into

1428
02:32:53,210 --> 02:32:59,970
facilities, sidewalks, curb cuts, all of that type of thing, as well as the amenities inside

1429
02:32:59,970 --> 02:33:08,710
the facility. We have a small amount of money for automated traffic signal performance measures,

1430
02:33:08,710 --> 02:33:14,750
and that's actually match money for a grant that the Public Works Department has obtained.

1431
02:33:15,410 --> 02:33:22,110
We have Buffalo Run Area Drainage Study, again preparing for future capital projects.

1432
02:33:22,690 --> 02:33:32,210
We have Concrete Flatwork Fairfax Park Drainage Outlet Reconstruction, H-S-I-P Grant Matches.

1433
02:33:32,390 --> 02:33:34,110
Again, these are for safety improvements.

1434
02:33:34,810 --> 02:33:42,330
Iarndale Regional Drainage, Ragweed Draw Drainage Railroad Crossing Reconstructions, that happens

1435
02:33:42,330 --> 02:33:47,190
as the railroad comes through and determines that a crossing needs to be reconstructed.

1436
02:33:47,410 --> 02:33:55,030
And they may give us 30-day notice or they may give us 24-hour notice and we just need

1437
02:33:55,030 --> 02:34:01,290
to have money available to be able to accommodate that sidewalk connectivity traffic calming.

1438
02:34:01,290 --> 02:34:22,850
So those are operational, and then traditional projects, we have 62nd Avenue in Vesca's intersection, and that would be funded out of the Mahai Greyhound Park Urban Renewal Authority, pending that body's approval of the use of tax increment finance money for that project.

1439
02:34:24,290 --> 02:34:31,890
88th Avenue widening. Again, contributing to that ongoing project. 96th Avenue widening

1440
02:34:31,890 --> 02:34:40,350
that would start design work in 2024 to fund a future project. 104th Avenue South

1441
02:34:40,350 --> 02:34:48,750
Flat River to Highway 85 widening. That's funded over a number of years again to be able

1442
02:34:48,750 --> 02:34:55,150
to pay for that widening project. 112th Avenue widening, Parkside 2 Hyplanes Parkway,

1443
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:59,970
again funding for another project for additional widening.

1444
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:30,060
120th Avenue in US 85 intersection. We made the commitment in our grant applications that we would commit $8 million in 2022. So this is fulfillment of that commitment. We have not received a federal grant for that project. So again, the question is what will happen with that. Bison Ridge Park put it in for 2023 on the assumption that the

1445
02:35:30,060 --> 02:35:32,540
the NIGID ballot measure would pass.

1446
02:35:33,540 --> 02:35:39,040
So if that doesn't pass, then that part has to be built later.

1447
02:35:40,020 --> 02:35:43,540
Chambers Road, same proposition there.

1448
02:35:43,880 --> 02:35:48,360
It assumes that the NIGID passes the two ballot measures.

1449
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:54,640
Color out a boulevard bicycle and pedestrian improvements, 680,000.

1450
02:35:54,780 --> 02:35:57,600
That is a match, again, for grant money.

1451
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:04,340
Disc Golf Course, I mentioned that one earlier, Highway 2, median barrier.

1452
02:36:04,880 --> 02:36:12,640
That is for design in 2022 with actual installation in 2023.

1453
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:21,380
And that would put basically the Jersey barrier style of median concrete barrier between

1454
02:36:21,380 --> 02:36:25,500
the northbound lanes and the southbound lanes in Highway 2.

1455
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:33,820
That's where the traffic accident happened that took two lives and so attempting to prevent

1456
02:36:33,820 --> 02:36:43,160
reoccurrence of that. I-76 on-ramp design work starting in 2025, but again,

1457
02:36:43,540 --> 02:36:51,300
assuming the NIGID ballot measure would pass. Please substation design 2026. That's

1458
02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:56,440
for design work, assuming the NIDID ballot measure passes.

1459
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:08,040
Rosemary Street widening that finishes out that project in terms of funding that project over 2022, 23, and 24.

1460
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:11,360
And then traffic signal installation.

1461
02:37:11,800 --> 02:37:22,140
Those are every year anticipating that either we need to match money with a developer or over two years we can fund a project.

1462
02:37:23,540 --> 02:37:24,580
Next slide, please.

1463
02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:34,760
I was looking at mine.

1464
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:37,700
Yes, please.

1465
02:37:37,980 --> 02:37:38,180
Sorry.

1466
02:37:40,450 --> 02:37:41,550
Tell the disconnect there.

1467
02:37:43,050 --> 02:37:45,730
So this is an overview of the requested projects.

1468
02:37:46,310 --> 02:37:47,470
Talked about those.

1469
02:37:48,350 --> 02:37:50,570
Unless there's a question on that, I'll move on.

1470
02:37:51,070 --> 02:37:51,410
Next slide.

1471
02:37:55,160 --> 02:38:00,080
So again, these are highlights from the 2022 portion

1472
02:38:00,080 --> 02:38:02,300
of the five-year capital improvement program.

1473
02:38:02,300 --> 02:38:08,260
and again happy to answer any questions on any of these items if if you have

1474
02:38:08,260 --> 02:38:16,840
questions on them. Next slide. 2023 that gets out there two more two years from

1475
02:38:16,840 --> 02:38:21,000
now. Basically again happy to answer questions on these but I don't want to

1476
02:38:21,000 --> 02:38:25,400
take up your time because I've talked about some of this already. Next slide.

1477
02:38:25,400 --> 02:38:30,800
24. Next slide. And next slide.

1478
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:34,600
Moving on from there.

1479
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:38,950
We're into supplemental information.

1480
02:38:39,250 --> 02:38:43,810
So let's go back to where you were at the wrap up of the general fund budget.

1481
02:38:44,950 --> 02:38:50,610
I have a question I saw up there on one of those slides. It said 96 Avenue from 76 to highway 2.

1482
02:38:51,330 --> 02:38:56,650
The north side of that road is unincorporated. So as our plan to either seek money from

1483
02:38:56,650 --> 02:39:02,410
I'm an Adams County or is our plan to start annexing in those properties into the city in order to make it

1484
02:39:03,590 --> 02:39:08,510
Help pay for itself. Well the portion that would be adjacent to Adams County

1485
02:39:08,510 --> 02:39:12,930
We would request their assistance you know their contribution to that portion

1486
02:39:14,170 --> 02:39:14,730
we

1487
02:39:16,310 --> 02:39:24,530
Forced annexed quite a significant portion of it a number of years back. I think 2010 it was something like that and I'm

1488
02:39:24,530 --> 02:39:41,750
I'm mostly opposed to forced annexation, but herein lies the problem of we get a one time cash infusion for the construction of the project, but then maintaining that road continues to be on the burden of the city and not on the county who gave us the one time cash infusion.

1489
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:54,510
And so I think that we have to have that conversation of do we annex if we're going to actually widen these sections of road and in order to use those property tax revenues to help us to maintain a road.

1490
02:39:55,110 --> 02:39:59,950
And I think that's something that I just struggle with all the time and I know we keep doing these agreements with Adams County.

1491
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,600
And God love the commissioners and the management of the county who are always coming to the table and negotiating with us and helping us and support that. But those one-time cash infusions are not fully funding the long-term costs of having those roads redone. And it's just, at some point, we're going to have to step back and say, what are we going to do in here? Is this really the right path that we're going? And again, I think I'm for that. But long-term, what are we doing? Council member Grimes?

1492
02:40:30,760 --> 02:40:36,760
Thank you, Mayor, along the same line, I'm not necessarily against forced annexation,

1493
02:40:36,940 --> 02:40:40,800
but I wonder if there's another solution, like a road maintenance agreement with the

1494
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:48,120
county, that would be more ongoing, but not necessarily forced us to annex the properties.

1495
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:53,980
So just another thing to consider if we need additional funding sources on an ongoing

1496
02:40:53,980 --> 02:40:55,420
basis for that type of project.

1497
02:40:58,460 --> 02:41:01,100
Roger, I know there's some work done in Fairfax.

1498
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:05,260
a number of years, and didn't they reconstruct all that?

1499
02:41:05,440 --> 02:41:06,280
What are we doing again?

1500
02:41:06,520 --> 02:41:08,460
Or what was the work that they've done before

1501
02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:10,280
to where it's at now?

1502
02:41:10,860 --> 02:41:13,240
Those improvements were done internal

1503
02:41:13,240 --> 02:41:14,660
to the park, primarily.

1504
02:41:15,160 --> 02:41:18,560
There was some work on the outflow, basically.

1505
02:41:19,120 --> 02:41:24,160
The problem with that outflow is that part of it has to be

1506
02:41:24,160 --> 02:41:28,200
a Sump condition, and that Sump keeps plugging up.

1507
02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:38,060
And so it really needs to be rebuilt and get rid of the sump so I don't know if Mr. Wilson has any other comments on that

1508
02:41:38,060 --> 02:41:41,920
But that's the gist of it anyway. Okay. Thank you. Sure

1509
02:41:45,340 --> 02:41:48,460
councilmember Ellen Thomas. Thank you

1510
02:41:48,460 --> 02:41:54,200
I just know it's too like Roger from 2020 to through 2026

1511
02:41:54,200 --> 02:42:06,220
I understand a lot of the other improvements, but what are some of the improvements for the core of the city case you're showing that they're 250,000 per year.

1512
02:42:06,960 --> 02:42:13,100
So is that mainly like improving roads and then we mentioned Fairfax, but what are some of the other ones?

1513
02:42:13,740 --> 02:42:19,200
Because I see very vaguely for core of the city, but it's 250,000 per year.

1514
02:42:19,460 --> 02:42:22,280
So what are some of the other ones for the core of the city?

1515
02:42:22,280 --> 02:42:37,780
Yes ma'am, it'd be a variety of projects, in some cases there may be drainage that needs to be improved, but primarily it's going to be street reconstructions and signals and that type of thing.

1516
02:42:39,950 --> 02:42:42,370
Mr. Wilson, do you want to add anything to that or is that covered?

1517
02:42:43,530 --> 02:42:44,170
Okay.

1518
02:42:44,750 --> 02:42:45,110
Okay.

1519
02:42:45,530 --> 02:42:45,870
Thank you.

1520
02:42:46,250 --> 02:42:46,510
Sure.

1521
02:42:52,450 --> 02:43:00,630
One of the things that we had talked about, Roger, and our one-on-ones is that now that

1522
02:43:00,630 --> 02:43:06,550
we knew that SunCore provides Commerce City with $4 million a year, that it would make

1523
02:43:06,550 --> 02:43:15,730
sense to earmark portion of the $4 million to South Commerce City.

1524
02:43:15,730 --> 02:43:21,730
In particular, the core city or the areas around the Suncorro refinery.

1525
02:43:23,330 --> 02:43:33,330
Can you point to where we are directing any of those funds for projects in South

1526
02:43:33,330 --> 02:43:37,690
Commerce City that benefit the residents that are impacted by Suncorro refinery?

1527
02:43:38,850 --> 02:43:48,470
Again, it would be a variety of projects ranging from the core city improvements to significant

1528
02:43:48,470 --> 02:43:55,650
portion of our pavement management has been spent in the core city, as well as whenever

1529
02:43:55,650 --> 02:44:04,450
we do a street reconstruction, those are the older streets in the historic core part

1530
02:44:04,450 --> 02:44:04,970
of the city.

1531
02:44:07,390 --> 02:44:16,510
I would think that Irondale improvements is part of the core city. I look

1532
02:44:16,510 --> 02:44:24,950
to counsel if you think that's true or not, but it's part of the historic area. Much

1533
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:31,110
of our concrete flat work is in the core city, Fairfax Park drainage outlet reconstruction.

1534
02:44:31,110 --> 02:44:42,230
that's that's core city so again it's a wide variety of projects we're going to have railroad crossing

1535
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:48,850
reconstructions many of those are going to be in the core city all of the sidewalk connectivity

1536
02:44:48,850 --> 02:44:59,750
issues are primarily in in in the core city so again it comes back to wide variety of the types of

1537
02:44:59,750 --> 02:44:59,970
I'm proud.

1538
02:45:01,120 --> 02:45:28,140
I'm sorry, I can't be more specific than that, but it includes all of those. I'm kind of thinking about things that are specific to the area that wouldn't also be done in any other part of the city. I would really be interested in seeing a tally of what you have planned for the core city area in terms of funds directed to that area.

1539
02:45:29,060 --> 02:45:37,520
As we move through the budget, we can see if we can pull that together by our next budget session.

1540
02:45:41,050 --> 02:45:43,130
Yes, one of them during this month, please.

1541
02:45:48,420 --> 02:45:49,160
Any other comments?

1542
02:45:50,760 --> 02:45:56,740
Thank you for the overview on the five year plan and it's always good to see the long-term

1543
02:45:56,740 --> 02:45:59,000
strategy of what we're going to do.

1544
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:04,480
One of the things that I've always struggled since being on council is, you know, I see these

1545
02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:09,940
five year plans and I see the money there, but I don't ever, I don't want to say follow up,

1546
02:46:10,040 --> 02:46:14,140
but I don't ever see the results of, you know, did we actually spend the money here?

1547
02:46:14,260 --> 02:46:15,380
Did we not spend the money there?

1548
02:46:15,580 --> 02:46:19,660
And that never really gets conveyed to us with this money this year.

1549
02:46:19,740 --> 02:46:21,400
We accomplished this phase of this.

1550
02:46:21,760 --> 02:46:26,380
You do a great job of sending us a sick report every month and I always enjoy reading that

1551
02:46:26,380 --> 02:46:29,260
and seeing, you know, the progress on projects and everything.

1552
02:46:30,020 --> 02:46:34,140
One of the things that I've always felt would be beneficial to us is if we had kind

1553
02:46:34,140 --> 02:46:39,080
of a budget blue book that had all these projects listed in there with location, with photos,

1554
02:46:40,160 --> 02:46:46,700
with satellite, screen capture, or whatever, aerial image capture to really help us to visualize

1555
02:46:46,700 --> 02:46:52,000
a little bit better on what it is that is actually being requested and how we're devoting

1556
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:53,440
that money to it and where it is.

1557
02:46:54,020 --> 02:46:58,580
And then receiving those updates of, yeah, we got the design done and here's a link to

1558
02:46:58,580 --> 02:47:01,560
the website that you can go look at the design or the plans or things like that.

1559
02:47:02,420 --> 02:47:21,300
It just feels like a lot of times this just happens in a vacuum and you know, I mean the Fairfax Park thing, I mean two years ago, I can remember standing in Fairfax Park talking about we've dedicated money to helping the outfall Fairfax Park, you know, and here it is two years later, we're still talking about Fairfax Park, you know, so where did that go?

1560
02:47:21,300 --> 02:47:25,200
did we not actually do the project? Was the money actually never allocated to the project and

1561
02:47:25,200 --> 02:47:31,680
things like that? And it's just it just feels like we're we're given this and that's great.

1562
02:47:31,880 --> 02:47:35,720
But then you know two years from now we look back and go well what did we get done with it?

1563
02:47:35,840 --> 02:47:41,740
So something that you know like I said a book that we can all carry around that has that in there.

1564
02:47:41,740 --> 02:47:45,740
So whenever we say we've got extra money to reappropriate where do we want to send the money?

1565
02:47:45,900 --> 02:47:49,280
You know again do we send that we spend that money on little things here and there?

1566
02:47:49,280 --> 02:47:55,280
Do we take and say here we can knock off design for this project and be ready to go and knocking off design for the project

1567
02:47:55,280 --> 02:47:58,980
It puts us in position to go out and seek a grant to help get it done and that kind of stuff

1568
02:47:58,980 --> 02:48:04,420
You know, I know some organizations are very effective in getting grants because they say we're shovel ready

1569
02:48:04,420 --> 02:48:11,040
The design work is done. Give us the money and we'll start construction tomorrow and a lot of times when we're saying give us money

1570
02:48:11,040 --> 02:48:13,900
We're saying well we'll put money aside to help with this

1571
02:48:13,900 --> 02:48:17,740
But you know, we need your money to actually do it and we're not to that phase yet

1572
02:48:17,740 --> 02:48:21,840
And then maybe that's a hindrance on why we're not getting some of the grants that we keep applying for.

1573
02:48:22,060 --> 02:48:27,580
So we'd just like to see the process revamped to make it more user friendly for

1574
02:48:27,580 --> 02:48:33,240
the nine of us to be able to make decisions and be able to understand and be able to articulate where the money is being spent.

1575
02:48:34,100 --> 02:48:40,860
You know, again, I love the idea that we're going to go seek money to improve an area and let that area spend that.

1576
02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:54,960
And, you know, not to counter another council member suggestion of going out for, you know, bond issue and, you know, sales tax or mill levy, you know, again, we run up to this issue of we can't keep taking money from the core part of the city and spending it up north.

1577
02:48:55,560 --> 02:48:59,700
We're going to have to find out how to make the northern part of the city stand on its own two legs.

1578
02:49:00,400 --> 02:49:03,560
And that's part of that is being done with the NIGID.

1579
02:49:03,940 --> 02:49:16,600
And, you know, and the other GIDs that are out there, and we're going to have to continue to come up with those ways, so that the money that is earned in the core part of our city can be spent in the core part of our city and make those improvements that the residents deserve to see.

1580
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:20,580
Yes, we're doing core city improvements, we're going to do sidewalks, we're going to do that.

1581
02:49:21,080 --> 02:49:28,080
But these are things that are languishing behind on a daily basis versus the development that is taking place up north.

1582
02:49:28,620 --> 02:49:33,520
different tax structure fully get that we understand that to a majority of

1583
02:49:33,520 --> 02:49:37,600
people who see what is taking place in our city that picture is not painted

1584
02:49:37,600 --> 02:49:42,880
as clearly so how do we continue to fund stuff that needs to be done north and

1585
02:49:42,880 --> 02:49:46,680
south and use the money appropriately and I think that's the biggest challenge

1586
02:49:46,680 --> 02:49:50,440
that any elected person moving forward in this city for the next 20 years is

1587
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:52,080
going to have to face and

1588
02:49:56,750 --> 02:49:57,110
with that

1589
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:21,240
Yeah, let's go back to kind of the wrap up of this. And then see if there's additional questions. You know, we have a number of requests for other things to be considered. So I'll take a look at those, all right. I recall some of them. Hopefully, we have them all recorded captured. So, all right.

1590
02:50:25,370 --> 02:50:32,580
So we basically left it at this slide, budget balancing options.

1591
02:50:32,580 --> 02:50:38,980
options. One option is you're good with the recommendations. Yeah, there's other things

1592
02:50:38,980 --> 02:50:46,040
you want, but we'll have to wait. I mean, that's one option. Another option is we take

1593
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:54,280
some more money out of fund balance for one time things. You know, if lighting in Pioneer

1594
02:50:54,280 --> 02:51:00,880
Park is an issue, then, you know, do we take money out of fund balance and come up with

1595
02:51:00,880 --> 02:51:07,720
the solution there, just using that as one illustration, I would recommend against taking

1596
02:51:07,720 --> 02:51:15,100
fund balance for ongoing positions because, again, that's where you get into trouble a

1597
02:51:15,100 --> 02:51:22,300
few years down the road. Do you want to take any of these options and have

1598
02:51:22,300 --> 02:51:30,860
us explore some combination of these options? Where would you like to go with this for our

1599
02:51:36,680 --> 02:51:41,920
You know, I think this was a good first step in laying it out there for us and I appreciate this

1600
02:51:43,060 --> 02:51:45,980
It's been very informative. I think for everybody to know that

1601
02:51:46,660 --> 02:51:51,960
You know, I think we've given some feedback on some line items that maybe we'd like to see re-addressed and and

1602
02:51:51,960 --> 02:51:55,740
Where we want that to go. I also think that

1603
02:51:57,380 --> 02:52:04,680
There's probably some line items that council members probably have in their pocket that they'd also like to see come before council in order to be approved

1604
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:09,340
and so maybe I know in the past we've had budget forms and stuff making sure

1605
02:52:09,340 --> 02:52:12,560
that those are made available so that everybody can put down kind of what

1606
02:52:12,560 --> 02:52:15,380
those requests are and figure out whether or not we can fund that stuff.

1607
02:52:16,540 --> 02:52:20,220
Beyond that, you know, continue the budget process. The only thing I can think

1608
02:52:20,220 --> 02:52:23,140
unless anybody has anything else that they want to add. Council member Alan Thomas.

1609
02:52:24,300 --> 02:52:28,680
Thank you. One thing that I noticed throughout the presentation that was really

1610
02:52:28,680 --> 02:52:33,720
concerning to me and there were yeses by all of them. Is that we're spending for

1611
02:52:33,720 --> 02:52:42,620
that budget next year, 157,000 on furniture, and we haven't even used the furniture like in

1612
02:52:42,620 --> 02:52:43,600
the last year.

1613
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:48,780
So I'm just concerned why all of those were yeses when I think, you know, that money

1614
02:52:48,780 --> 02:52:53,260
for next year can be addressed and go towards something else like, you know, the homeless.

1615
02:52:53,560 --> 02:52:54,780
I'm like, said the parks again.

1616
02:52:54,920 --> 02:53:00,520
We have businesses struggling size just curious as to why we're spending that and we haven't

1617
02:53:00,520 --> 02:53:03,760
even use the furniture like within the last year.

1618
02:53:04,640 --> 02:53:10,380
And then another question, what do we do with the old furniture that the city has in

1619
02:53:10,380 --> 02:53:11,320
the civic building?

1620
02:53:12,460 --> 02:53:16,240
Well, a couple items there for your consideration.

1621
02:53:16,460 --> 02:53:23,860
One is for an example of one of the furniture items I saw it here a minute ago.

1622
02:53:23,860 --> 02:53:34,400
So briefing room, furniture replacement, and also, yeah, I'll just go with that one.

1623
02:53:34,780 --> 02:53:41,480
As an example, that is used multiple times per day with police officers in the briefing

1624
02:53:41,480 --> 02:53:41,860
room.

1625
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:48,500
There were in a lot of equipment, and unfortunately that tears up furniture.

1626
02:53:48,500 --> 02:53:57,760
You know, and so it's a situation where you know furniture actually needs to be replaced because it's it's in bad condition.

1627
02:53:58,120 --> 02:54:05,480
Same thing with audience seating here in the chambers. Now we have good chairs out.

1628
02:54:05,980 --> 02:54:13,620
But there's also chairs that you know when people are in court, they're not necessarily happy customers.

1629
02:54:13,620 --> 02:54:20,900
and so you'll find all kinds of damage in the webbing of these chairs so it's

1630
02:54:20,900 --> 02:54:26,740
that kind of thing that we're trying to replace. You know could some of it wait

1631
02:54:26,740 --> 02:54:32,420
another year potentially but again trying to get economy of scale you do a

1632
02:54:32,420 --> 02:54:38,800
batch at a time so that's the answer on furniture. And then what do they do with

1633
02:54:38,800 --> 02:54:42,060
the old furniture does that donate it to places or?

1634
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:46,500
Again, when it's torn up, it's trashed.

1635
02:54:46,860 --> 02:54:54,560
Yeah, I don't know if we have a plan on some of the furniture that may be okay yet, but

1636
02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:59,480
I would look to Mr. Wilson if there's typically we.

1637
02:54:59,480 --> 02:54:59,900
We will.

1638
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:28,860
In the past, anyway, have held auctions, or we centered out to a company that held auctions. And I know on an ongoing basis our IT equipment, for example, when when it's passed, it's life with us, it's all wiped and goes to a contractor who then, you know, basically repurposes ourselves whatever they can do with it. Yeah, because I said just wrapping up,

1639
02:55:28,860 --> 02:55:34,740
You know, like said, everyone has their own request, but like I said, 157,000.

1640
02:55:34,740 --> 02:55:39,840
I think some of the things on the list, especially when it hasn't even been used in the last year.

1641
02:55:39,880 --> 02:55:44,800
I hope that's really looked into you as a, you know, what is definitely needed on that list.

1642
02:55:45,580 --> 02:55:46,400
Thank you.

1643
02:55:54,090 --> 02:55:54,870
Use a microphone.

1644
02:56:03,080 --> 02:56:03,520
Yes,

1645
02:56:07,780 --> 02:56:11,380
about a half of that $88,000 part.

1646
02:56:12,260 --> 02:56:14,040
I got to, I got to raise it up to.

1647
02:56:14,040 --> 02:56:22,560
Okay, so there's a $88,000 is for the chairs here for the council chambers as well as all the furniture out in the atrium.

1648
02:56:22,660 --> 02:56:27,660
None of that furniture has been replaced since 2007 when this building was first built.

1649
02:56:28,040 --> 02:56:34,900
And about 70% of the chairs that are used here for the council chambers are not usable, frankly.

1650
02:56:35,400 --> 02:56:39,520
So we've been kind of putting together our best outfit.

1651
02:56:39,520 --> 02:56:44,780
But your point is, well taken out over the last year, we haven't used the council chamber.

1652
02:56:44,980 --> 02:56:56,500
So that project was actually approved two years ago, and we've kind of held off on that project because we didn't have the need to execute that project, as well as that furniture out in the atrium.

1653
02:56:57,160 --> 02:57:07,420
For example, another furniture request is for the engineering section, we added about six new personnel to our facilities.

1654
02:57:07,420 --> 02:57:17,380
And we're not actually putting up furniture so we actually have one per desk, we're actually hot-bunking there, so they're actually sharing desks and things like that.

1655
02:57:17,520 --> 02:57:23,060
So we're trying to best that we can to make sure that we minimize the amount of new elements that we have to add.

1656
02:57:23,740 --> 02:57:30,500
And then lastly, for example, any of the modular furniture that we have, we store it and we repurpose it.

1657
02:57:30,500 --> 02:57:40,180
There are several facilities in the MSC compound, for example, that we've used repurposed furnitures, pieces as opposed to going out and making new purchases as well.

1658
02:57:40,500 --> 02:57:43,900
So we try to go through that process when a new request is made.

1659
02:57:44,240 --> 02:57:54,140
It gets sent to our facilities shop and our folks examine what we have in inventory, what the legitimate requirement is and try and do it in the most cost effective way possible.

1660
02:57:54,140 --> 02:57:54,940
Thank

1661
02:57:58,840 --> 02:57:59,400
you, Mr. Wilson.

1662
02:57:59,880 --> 02:58:04,160
I think it's also important to keep in mind that we may order it next year,

1663
02:58:04,200 --> 02:58:07,180
but we may not see it for three or four years with the current supply chain

1664
02:58:07,180 --> 02:58:08,980
shortages going on across the world.

1665
02:58:09,200 --> 02:58:11,840
So Council member, no.

1666
02:58:14,510 --> 02:58:20,110
I wanted to make sure that you added to the 2022 budget balancing options,

1667
02:58:20,530 --> 02:58:21,630
the American Rescue Plan.

1668
02:58:21,890 --> 02:58:25,090
We could at least have that conversation as number eight,

1669
02:58:25,090 --> 02:58:32,590
Because it is possible to use funds from the American Rescue Plan to make up for losses from last year.

1670
02:58:32,830 --> 02:58:37,850
And as we know, all departments except for the police department had to take reductions.

1671
02:58:38,450 --> 02:58:41,450
So that can be made up by the American Rescue Plan Funds.

1672
02:58:41,810 --> 02:58:42,290
Thank you.

1673
02:58:47,480 --> 02:58:53,940
As far as what number on this list of options I would support or not support.

1674
02:58:54,780 --> 02:58:59,000
I mean, I envision approving some version of one of these, but I'm not sure that I'm prepared to say tonight.

1675
02:58:59,760 --> 02:59:07,340
Without seeing you guys come back with some of the things we've asked for, I'm not prepared to say which of those options just yet.

1676
02:59:07,500 --> 02:59:18,480
So I don't know if that's a very answer, but I'd like to see us revisit some of the things talked about tonight before I'm willing to commit to which option.

1677
02:59:21,370 --> 02:59:26,670
I will just remind you that some of the numbers may change even though you're not prepared

1678
02:59:26,670 --> 02:59:27,710
to give us that direction.

1679
02:59:27,710 --> 02:59:32,370
Some of the numbers may change based on those items that I told you were subject to change.

1680
02:59:32,690 --> 02:59:38,390
As those things happen, we will have a slide that tells you, you know, these are the things

1681
02:59:38,390 --> 02:59:44,290
that we know to be the case from the last meeting to the present meeting just to keep track

1682
02:59:44,290 --> 02:59:46,310
of why there are changes in the numbers.

1683
02:59:48,700 --> 02:59:52,540
I think, in Council Memograms, it makes a great point of, you know, I don't think anybody

1684
02:59:52,540 --> 02:59:56,280
can really say, yes, let's do everything, but by the same token, I don't think anybody

1685
02:59:56,280 --> 02:59:59,960
has said, steadfast, I object to this line item and throw it out.

1686
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:18,540
I think the biggest message I've heard is, well, why are you saying no to that? We should probably add a little bit more. So, I think that, I mean, we're pretty close to number seven. But, of course, we want to see some final stuff and want to see maybe some more additions and the like in order to get us to be able to get to that point. Council Member Render.

1687
03:00:21,280 --> 03:00:31,620
Yeah, thank you. Summarize it pretty well, Mayor. You know, I'm, you know, probably more seven than any of the other options. At this point, I'm just looking at, you know,

1688
03:00:31,620 --> 03:00:37,860
So our revenue projections and we're actually projected to bring in less revenue this year

1689
03:00:37,860 --> 03:00:41,400
or in 2022 than we did in 2020.

1690
03:00:44,620 --> 03:00:50,160
So just something to keep in mind, I don't know what goes into those projections but

1691
03:00:50,920 --> 03:00:55,680
it seems like they're kind of based off of our 2021 Actuals through June.

1692
03:00:57,860 --> 03:01:03,600
So, you know, just something to keep an eye out on and, you know, you don't want to budget

1693
03:01:03,600 --> 03:01:09,660
more than you're bringing in and, you know, as we saw in the past year, things outside

1694
03:01:09,660 --> 03:01:10,600
of our control happen.

1695
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:15,260
So, you know, just better to be conservative in that sense.

1696
03:01:20,420 --> 03:01:24,420
Mr. Madera, if you want to point out to me how you're referring to those numbers because

1697
03:01:24,420 --> 03:01:27,500
we are actually projecting an increase in revenues,

1698
03:01:30,060 --> 03:01:31,660
so are you looking at actual

1699
03:01:31,660 --> 03:01:35,520
to projection? Is the supplemental data slide at the end of the presentation?

1700
03:01:36,180 --> 03:01:36,300
Okay.

1701
03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:43,860
I'd kind of be shocked that we would not bring in as much revenue

1702
03:01:43,860 --> 03:01:45,720
with Dutch brothers operating the way they are.

1703
03:01:49,590 --> 03:01:51,930
I'll have my staff specifically look at that number.

1704
03:01:53,050 --> 03:01:56,950
I'd be curious, I mean, that line is always crazy wrapped around that building

1705
03:01:56,950 --> 03:02:01,270
and it's a double line usually but not only that but a couple new Starbucks out there

1706
03:02:01,270 --> 03:02:04,510
and a couple other things that would be curious to see how we don't bring in more money.

1707
03:02:04,510 --> 03:02:05,770
But finance

1708
03:02:19,720 --> 03:02:29,340
typically looks back at the revenues as well as the other items that are subject to change like health insurance and those type of things.

1709
03:02:29,580 --> 03:02:32,500
So the revenue numbers may change as well.

1710
03:02:33,100 --> 03:02:36,860
I would anticipate they would and I don't know specifically the number you're looking at.

1711
03:02:36,940 --> 03:02:44,920
But I'm guessing you're looking at maybe the total taxes number for 2019 actual or 2020 to 21.

1712
03:02:44,920 --> 03:02:49,320
but keep in mind, it says those numbers are through June, meaning they were on the June report,

1713
03:02:49,860 --> 03:02:54,860
but specifically for sales and use tax, that's actually four months of revenue,

1714
03:02:55,500 --> 03:03:00,020
because there's a two month delay in sales and use tax, so it's really hard,

1715
03:03:00,340 --> 03:03:05,660
depending on the timing of when we ran the numbers to give the report, things are already changing.

1716
03:03:05,800 --> 03:03:09,160
And that's why I had mentioned that we continue each month to look at the revenues,

1717
03:03:09,180 --> 03:03:13,860
and we'll amend those as we're going forward. I fully anticipate the revenue numbers to change

1718
03:03:13,860 --> 03:03:14,900
as we have more data.

1719
03:03:17,070 --> 03:03:17,470
Does that?

1720
03:03:17,690 --> 03:03:21,430
I would expect the same, but I'm just going off of the slide 55 on there.

1721
03:03:28,850 --> 03:03:34,450
The other thing I would also point out is that in 2020 we also have the ARPA revenue in there,

1722
03:03:34,490 --> 03:03:40,670
so that $5.4 million really, 2020 creates an anomaly year that is hard to just look at,

1723
03:03:40,930 --> 03:03:42,750
if you're looking at just bottom line numbers.

1724
03:03:43,410 --> 03:03:45,050
Is that the miscellaneous slide?

1725
03:03:45,950 --> 03:03:46,470
Yes.

1726
03:03:48,470 --> 03:03:48,950
Thank you.

1727
03:03:50,770 --> 03:03:55,270
Any other comments before we move on from our next agenda item for the meeting?

1728
03:03:56,710 --> 03:03:59,450
Okay, well thank you very much to the entire finance team.

1729
03:03:59,750 --> 03:04:03,270
I know this is a lot of work and appreciate all the effort that goes into it and

1730
03:04:03,270 --> 03:04:08,250
providing us this information as well as to the city staff management team who

1731
03:04:08,250 --> 03:04:12,530
sits and looks at these requests and makes the tough decisions in order to make

1732
03:04:12,530 --> 03:04:16,530
sure that we are financially sound but also continuing to improve the city.

1733
03:04:16,530 --> 03:04:22,670
So it's a lot of work and I just greatly appreciate all the work that does go into it and the effort that everybody does and the team work

1734
03:04:22,670 --> 03:04:24,830
Everybody pulling together to make it all successful

1735
03:04:25,890 --> 03:04:32,510
That being said we will move on to our next item which is reports and Mr. Tinklinberg you have the honor of going first

1736
03:04:35,520 --> 03:04:36,340
Thank you mayor

1737
03:04:39,960 --> 03:04:42,380
number of items to cover here

1738
03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:51,560
Just a reminder that we have the joint meeting with Adams 14 school board again on August 30

1739
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:59,220
And joint meeting with the 27J School Board on August 31, City of Brighton is hosting that one.

1740
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:27,280
We held the candidate information meeting on August 4th. And as if I recall correctly, we had 12 candidates, I believe, nine candidates, sorry, who attended that. And so that went well. It was well attended. Dylan did a great job of talking about all the requirements for being a candidate.

1741
03:05:28,680 --> 03:05:37,940
Community development, again, we're continuing to use the pop-up concerts to get more feedback

1742
03:05:37,940 --> 03:05:46,520
from citizens, and I watch the planners pull people in and say, hey, come over here and

1743
03:05:46,520 --> 03:05:53,080
give us your opinion, and every time they've gotten good response out of that, residential

1744
03:05:53,080 --> 03:06:02,260
permits, if you recall, we had 82 residential permits issued in July last week.

1745
03:06:02,660 --> 03:06:09,820
We had 31 just in one week, so that, again, it's continuing to increase.

1746
03:06:10,840 --> 03:06:18,100
Case loads, land use cases were at 193 and emergency rental assistance.

1747
03:06:18,980 --> 03:06:22,740
We've obligated $668,000 as of last week.

1748
03:06:23,440 --> 03:06:30,440
Previous report at the end of July was $585,000, so nearly $100,000 increase.

1749
03:06:32,640 --> 03:06:39,680
I mentioned that last time that the court, that the judge issued a mask order for anyone appearing in court.

1750
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:46,500
Just as a heads up to you, we are looking at doing that for the entire city operation.

1751
03:06:46,500 --> 03:06:54,820
effect of next week and the reasons for that is the Delta variant is now the predominant

1752
03:06:54,820 --> 03:07:02,280
COVID-19 variant that is out there and it's very much present here in Adams County.

1753
03:07:03,800 --> 03:07:14,000
Adams County reached the threshold of 100 cases per 100,000 population and so that we're

1754
03:07:14,000 --> 03:07:17,760
We're showing as a zone of high transmission.

1755
03:07:18,480 --> 03:07:26,480
And so we're looking at that and assessing, okay, what do we do to, again, keep residents

1756
03:07:26,480 --> 03:07:28,260
safe and keep the employees safe.

1757
03:07:28,640 --> 03:07:30,420
So I just wanted to give you that heads up.

1758
03:07:32,340 --> 03:07:40,600
In terms of economic development, just one reminder, the state of the city event will be held

1759
03:07:40,600 --> 03:07:44,300
on September 23, that will be at the Bison Ridge Recreation Center.

1760
03:07:47,080 --> 03:07:52,800
Monaco Park renovation, the RFP for design is being prepared right now, so that will go

1761
03:07:52,800 --> 03:07:53,400
out soon.

1762
03:07:53,940 --> 03:08:00,700
Turnberry Skate Park, that work is in progress, and then again a reminder beyond the call

1763
03:08:00,700 --> 03:08:08,500
of duty that is going to be here on August 12, that memorial will be honoring Kurt Holland,

1764
03:08:08,500 --> 03:08:11,740
and that will be at the Bison Ridge Recreation Center.

1765
03:08:12,400 --> 03:08:16,380
August 20 is the Kurt Holland Memorial Golf Tournament.

1766
03:08:17,080 --> 03:08:20,060
For those councilmembers not playing in the tournament,

1767
03:08:20,700 --> 03:08:23,140
you're welcome to join the presentation,

1768
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:28,120
and so arrive at the Buffalo Run Golf Course

1769
03:08:28,120 --> 03:08:32,020
between 1 and 2 p.m., and those will be for the presentations

1770
03:08:32,020 --> 03:08:33,560
following the golf tournament.

1771
03:08:34,360 --> 03:08:37,060
And then the following day, August 21, Saturday,

1772
03:08:37,880 --> 03:08:55,460
that is celebration of Buffalo Runs 25th anniversary and that starts at 10 a.m. when staff will start welcoming customers and then at noon there will be welcoming remarks from the mayor and again will be at the term of the

1773
03:08:55,460 --> 03:09:01,560
civilian as well as introduction of city council and the PRG advisory committee distribution

1774
03:09:01,560 --> 03:09:08,040
of commemorative gifts and free barbecue and homemade desserts in the pavilion.

1775
03:09:09,360 --> 03:09:14,000
There's a putting contest for city council at one o'clock, so if you feel like putting,

1776
03:09:14,620 --> 03:09:22,400
you'll be able to participate in that and then closing at, while the ceremony is closed

1777
03:09:22,400 --> 03:09:28,320
at 130 but it wraps up at two o'clock. And then again a reminder this Thursday in Fairfax Park,

1778
03:09:28,660 --> 03:09:35,680
starting at 630 will be another pop-up concert. And Public Works reported that the Walden

1779
03:09:35,680 --> 03:09:43,280
Traffic Signal, it became operational in July 29. The pedestrian push button in ADA ramps were

1780
03:09:43,280 --> 03:09:50,940
finished on three corners, but waiting for the fourth corner to be completed. And that's expected by

1781
03:09:50,940 --> 03:09:59,960
August 11th. There's two free events coming up. There's a free tire recycling event at MSC.

1782
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:29,300
That's on Saturday, the 21st. That's from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. Residents can dispose of tires for free. Each resident can bring up to eight tires and that will be recycled. The only catch is got to provide proof of residency in Commerce City to do that. One week later, there is electronics recycling event. That will be at the Thornton Infrastructure Maintenance Center. And that's

1783
03:10:29,300 --> 03:10:36,200
as I mentioned week later Saturday the 28th from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. the cost is

1784
03:10:36,200 --> 03:10:42,780
$15 per vehicle for electronic waste which includes one TV or computer

1785
03:10:42,780 --> 03:10:48,140
monitor. Side note on that if you bring it to some recycling place like best

1786
03:10:48,140 --> 03:10:54,540
buy for example will recycle for you. You got to pay $25 per monitor so heck of a

1787
03:10:54,540 --> 03:11:02,960
deal bring your monitors also you can you can actually expand that if you have

1788
03:11:02,960 --> 03:11:08,300
three old TVs and you want to get rid of them it's $25 for the vehicle so

1789
03:11:08,300 --> 03:11:15,620
instead of paying $75 pay $25 and get rid of all three of them and all

1790
03:11:15,620 --> 03:11:21,220
commerce city and Adams County residents are eligible to participate in that so

1791
03:11:21,220 --> 03:11:26,840
So even though it's being held in Thornton, it's a county wide event, so I encourage people to do that.

1792
03:11:27,820 --> 03:11:35,640
The free landfill day occurred, that was on the seventh, so just this past Saturday.

1793
03:11:37,460 --> 03:11:48,220
535 loads were disposed of, and that would be equivalent to $53,000 worth of fees that it was free.

1794
03:11:48,220 --> 03:11:51,360
So that's the benefit to Commerce City.

1795
03:11:51,980 --> 03:11:54,680
So total of three of the four days have been held.

1796
03:11:55,300 --> 03:12:01,200
And in those three days, 1,506 loads were brought in.

1797
03:12:01,960 --> 03:12:04,860
So that's $150,000 worth of service.

1798
03:12:05,000 --> 03:12:06,340
That was provided at no cost.

1799
03:12:06,840 --> 03:12:10,900
Final day will be on November 6th.

1800
03:12:10,900 --> 03:12:14,260
So again, encourage people if they have a lot of stuff

1801
03:12:14,260 --> 03:12:15,940
they want to get rid of, load it up,

1802
03:12:16,960 --> 03:12:22,480
Bring it over to landfill on November 6th, that's it for my report.

1803
03:12:22,680 --> 03:12:23,060
Thank you, sir.

1804
03:12:24,980 --> 03:12:27,480
Any questions regarding the city manager's report?

1805
03:12:28,400 --> 03:12:29,720
Council Member Allen Thomas.

1806
03:12:30,420 --> 03:12:31,180
Thank you, Mayor.

1807
03:12:31,620 --> 03:12:32,280
And thank you, Mayor.

1808
03:12:32,280 --> 03:12:33,260
I'm Roger for the report.

1809
03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:39,540
But I was just curious, I think it'd be nice with the anniversary for the Buffalo run.

1810
03:12:39,940 --> 03:12:45,800
Golf Course has that past mayor and that previous city council, just if someone from staff

1811
03:12:45,800 --> 03:12:50,620
could reach out to them because there's still a lot of them that are living within the city,

1812
03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:56,440
and I think it'd be nice to, if they got received some type of formal invite or some type of

1813
03:12:56,440 --> 03:13:03,080
notification for the mayor at that time in the previous city council members, just to let them know

1814
03:13:03,080 --> 03:13:10,600
it is an anniversary celebration. Sure. I know pressure recreation golf is often far more

1815
03:13:11,400 --> 03:13:15,440
conscientious of that type of thing than I am. So I'd be surprised if they haven't already

1816
03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:18,380
already taken care of it but I'll pass that on to them.

1817
03:13:18,640 --> 03:13:18,820
Thanks.

1818
03:13:18,980 --> 03:13:19,740
Okay, thank you.

1819
03:13:22,010 --> 03:13:25,390
Hey Roger, can we get that on our calendar, calendar invite?

1820
03:13:27,810 --> 03:13:29,030
We lost in that.

1821
03:13:30,310 --> 03:13:31,030
Oh perfect.

1822
03:13:31,350 --> 03:13:31,550
Thank you.

1823
03:13:33,980 --> 03:13:34,840
Any other questions?

1824
03:13:36,560 --> 03:13:38,580
Seeing none, thank you again for your report, sir.

1825
03:13:38,720 --> 03:13:40,200
We will move on to Mr. Sheasley.

1826
03:13:40,840 --> 03:13:41,740
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

1827
03:13:41,820 --> 03:13:42,140
Good evening.

1828
03:13:43,220 --> 03:13:47,420
Last week your email inboxes were blessed with the litigation and pending ordinance reports.

1829
03:13:47,980 --> 03:13:55,040
There is information in that about an executive session that will be held at the end of the meeting next Monday about potential affirmative litigation.

1830
03:13:55,600 --> 03:14:10,160
So be sure to be here for that because it will be interesting and other than that next week on the 19th we have a policy and governance subcommittee where the topic is going to be discussing request to staff and kind of a council.

1831
03:14:10,160 --> 03:14:13,680
I'm sorry, the city manager management of responses to those.

1832
03:14:14,340 --> 03:14:18,420
So that is of course, for your policies open to everyone, it'll be conducted via Zoom.

1833
03:14:18,700 --> 03:14:23,320
And there will be some suggested policies, some drafts out there from our last discussion in the agenda.

1834
03:14:24,100 --> 03:14:24,340
Thank you.

1835
03:14:26,420 --> 03:14:26,920
Thanks, sir.

1836
03:14:27,180 --> 03:14:28,840
Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Sheasley?

1837
03:14:30,420 --> 03:14:32,840
Mr. Tinklinberg, I apologize.

1838
03:14:33,100 --> 03:14:36,280
I forgot to give you a overview of the upcoming agenda.

1839
03:14:37,140 --> 03:14:40,500
So if you would one look at one of the two screens,

1840
03:14:46,420 --> 03:14:52,220
Next meeting is a loaded meeting. I mean that in the sense of there's lots of stuff.

1841
03:14:53,360 --> 03:14:59,860
So we're starting off with board and commission subcommittee and then going into urban

1842
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,980
In renewal authority, and that's regarding the future hotel purchase and sale agreement. And then we go into city council meeting. Of course there's always citizen communication, but then following that is the Latino engagement task force report followed by the COVID-19 report, the 2021 work plan update for second quarter. Comprehensive plan update. And, uh,

1843
03:15:29,980 --> 03:15:39,820
And then also ratification of the redistricting commission letter for the mayor's signature.

1844
03:15:40,580 --> 03:15:50,480
And then we have quite a number of ordinances, primarily amending the budget for various either grant matches or transferring some funds.

1845
03:15:51,800 --> 03:15:57,320
So you've seen all of those on first reading prior to this, I won't go through the detail on that.

1846
03:15:57,320 --> 03:16:02,600
We also have a number of resolutions of items that you've seen before.

1847
03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:12,220
One is intergovernmental agreement between the city and sea dot, and that's for right-of-way acquisition cost sharing.

1848
03:16:13,220 --> 03:16:18,160
And that's regarding the highway 85 and 125 new interchange project.

1849
03:16:18,680 --> 03:16:24,660
I apologize for looking at the big screen and turning my back to you, but I cannot read that small screen over there.

1850
03:16:24,660 --> 03:16:31,900
So second, second resolution is establishing the Blue Ribbon Economic Development Panel.

1851
03:16:32,820 --> 03:16:37,720
Next resolution is the Mending Policy, City Council Policy 16.

1852
03:16:38,480 --> 03:16:45,040
And that would be modifying the City Council agenda regarding noticed business items.

1853
03:16:45,800 --> 03:16:50,880
And then a resolution finding substantial compliance of annexation petition case.

1854
03:16:50,880 --> 03:17:01,480
and that's for the can-am annexation and setting a public hearing. Resolution

1855
03:17:01,480 --> 03:17:07,120
approving quit claim deed in favor of LGI homes and that's returning dedicated

1856
03:17:07,120 --> 03:17:14,540
property basically to them in the second creek farm filing one.

1857
03:17:16,660 --> 03:17:18,480
Then we have two

1858
03:17:18,480 --> 03:17:24,020
zoning cases, one is ordinance approving the Buckley Crossing PUD amendment number one.

1859
03:17:24,740 --> 03:17:30,100
And a second one is ordinance approving the Mile High Greyhound Park PUD zone document

1860
03:17:30,100 --> 03:17:30,840
amendment one.

1861
03:17:31,980 --> 03:17:36,860
We have a public hearing and so there's a resolution approving the amended and re-stated

1862
03:17:36,860 --> 03:17:42,880
service plan for Buckley Crossing Metropolitan District and approving the intergovernmental agreement.

1863
03:17:42,880 --> 03:17:49,120
and then we also have a resolution approving the service plan for Buckley Crossing, district number two,

1864
03:17:49,900 --> 03:17:52,580
and a related inter-governmental agreement.

1865
03:17:53,360 --> 03:18:02,720
We have a resolution adopting the revised storm drainage and technical criteria manual.

1866
03:18:03,980 --> 03:18:11,180
Ordnance on first reading is ordnance mending the 2021 budget for transferring 350,000

1867
03:18:11,180 --> 03:18:17,620
and to the facility's fund for costs associated with the facility assessment, priority one projects.

1868
03:18:20,290 --> 03:18:23,540
Admin business, we have the municipal judge recruitment,

1869
03:18:24,620 --> 03:18:28,840
and then executive session regarding legal advice,

1870
03:18:29,360 --> 03:18:37,380
regarding pending litigation, as well as an executive session regarding mid-year performance goal assessments for the city attorney.

1871
03:18:37,380 --> 03:18:44,580
And then as if that weren't enough, we have the ECA and ERA GID joint meeting.

1872
03:18:45,360 --> 03:18:54,000
And that is to have the Third Creek West intergovernmental agreement for the GID reimbursement.

1873
03:18:54,520 --> 03:18:58,100
The other two items are being moved back to a later meeting.

1874
03:18:58,840 --> 03:19:03,840
So that's the full list for August 16th.

1875
03:19:04,420 --> 03:19:06,480
As I say, that's a full agenda.

1876
03:19:07,080 --> 03:19:13,180
And I can add on the Buckley Crossing metropolitan district applications for council direction.

1877
03:19:14,180 --> 03:19:17,940
The city manager's office and I have been actively negotiating that over the past week.

1878
03:19:19,740 --> 03:19:22,860
And I hope to have that in the packet if it's not completed sufficiently.

1879
03:19:23,060 --> 03:19:25,240
It won't be in the packet and the hearing won't occur that night.

1880
03:19:25,700 --> 03:19:31,780
And a couple of those items may move off as well based on their preparedness for the agenda

1881
03:19:31,780 --> 03:19:32,160
tomorrow.

1882
03:19:34,990 --> 03:19:59,850
Thank you. I appreciate the update. I hope everybody else appreciates knowing what's going to be on the agenda next week if you have feedback or you'd like to see changes to the agenda, please communicate directly with the city manager's office on things that you think should or should not be there for next week, but going forward, this will be part of the study session report from the city manager that an overview of the upcoming agenda is going to be given to us just weekend.

1883
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:29,720
We're going to have a game plan of what's coming up. Any questions? Seeing none, any council members wishing to make a report? Councilmember Wadiola? Thank you, Mayor. About three items. Just want to really promote music in the park. It's our last music in the park. It's our Fairfax on Thursday from 630 to 830, and it's part of the neighborhood outreach also. We're gearing up to do Carmer City Eats September 18 through the

1884
03:20:29,720 --> 03:20:37,280
26, I believe, we're actually voting tomorrow on the guidelines, but if you eat at businesses

1885
03:20:37,280 --> 03:20:41,440
around Karma City, just let them know they'll begin a letter, an email, and possibly

1886
03:20:44,060 --> 03:20:47,160
members of the Cultural Council will be stopping by to get them.

1887
03:20:47,600 --> 03:20:51,160
They're not given a 10% discount this year, like we did the first year we did it.

1888
03:20:51,280 --> 03:20:55,000
We just want them to be part of the program so we can really promote their business.

1889
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:59,520
So, um, and then the last thing is the subcommittee, uh,

1890
03:20:59,860 --> 03:21:02,340
boards and commission subcommittee met Saturday with interviews.

1891
03:21:02,800 --> 03:21:07,260
Um, again, it's, it's amazing to hear and from all our residents

1892
03:21:07,260 --> 03:21:10,040
and how wonderful of residents we have.

1893
03:21:10,600 --> 03:21:15,760
Um, we are still looking for four core, uh, city members.

1894
03:21:16,300 --> 03:21:20,760
Um, so please south of 88.

1895
03:21:21,320 --> 03:21:24,500
Um, so thank you Councilwoman Noble, Councilwoman Smith.

1896
03:21:25,000 --> 03:21:31,620
and councilmember Hearst, we interviewed all day and we got some great candidates but we're still looking for four

1897
03:21:32,840 --> 03:21:39,740
residents from south of 88th and the application should be open. So once we get those applications

1898
03:21:39,740 --> 03:21:45,300
we'll set a time where we could interview. We are not waiting for quarter four for those interviews.

1899
03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:49,520
We'll do it as soon as we can. Thank you, Mayor.

1900
03:21:54,090 --> 03:21:54,610
Thank

1901
03:21:58,100 --> 03:22:05,860
you. I attended Music in the Park at Frontera Park last Thursday, and it was really

1902
03:22:05,860 --> 03:22:13,560
a great experience. Thank you, Cultural Council, for putting these events on. I was, I

1903
03:22:13,560 --> 03:22:18,080
really, I think the best part of it for me, though, was walking party to party and just

1904
03:22:18,080 --> 03:22:23,260
talking to people and thanking them for being there. You learn what everybody is interested

1905
03:22:23,260 --> 03:22:28,500
in as well, and it's pretty consistent in our community about where their interests lie.

1906
03:22:29,140 --> 03:22:34,420
Today, I represented the city at the Water Quality Control Commission.

1907
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:42,180
This was the ongoing discussion about the anti-degradation rule and St.

1908
03:22:42,380 --> 03:22:43,160
Corrin soft-plat.

1909
03:22:45,540 --> 03:22:51,540
I was, so I reiterated the mayor's letter and said that I was reading from the mayor's

1910
03:22:51,540 --> 03:22:59,680
letter. Also, in attendance was Commissioner Oterizio and Commissioner Baca, and they also

1911
03:22:59,680 --> 03:23:08,780
made the same comments that we did. I am hoping that they will revisit the decision that

1912
03:23:08,780 --> 03:23:16,240
they made in June of last year, but that's still undecided. Thank you very much for including

1913
03:23:16,240 --> 03:23:20,860
me at the boards and commission committee meeting. Now I know what you all are talking about

1914
03:23:20,860 --> 03:23:23,660
when you're so excited afterwards about meeting people.

1915
03:23:24,820 --> 03:23:29,740
And lastly, a letter has come in to the city about me, and

1916
03:23:29,740 --> 03:23:36,840
I just wondered if what staff is going to do with the letter that was received.

1917
03:23:44,740 --> 03:23:45,600
Thank you, Council Member.

1918
03:23:45,700 --> 03:23:48,980
And the letter hasn't been distributed to all of Council.

1919
03:23:49,480 --> 03:23:51,640
Should I characterize it generally, Council Member?

1920
03:23:51,920 --> 03:23:53,160
Do you know I'm going to characterize it?

1921
03:23:53,160 --> 03:23:55,740
I'm just asking you if you intend to send it out.

1922
03:23:55,740 --> 03:23:59,480
Yes, the intention is to provide it to the remainder of council.

1923
03:24:00,180 --> 03:24:00,360
Okay.

1924
03:24:00,460 --> 03:24:00,640
Yes.

1925
03:24:00,840 --> 03:24:01,580
Thank you very much.

1926
03:24:02,480 --> 03:24:08,740
This involves a neighbor dispute, a neighbor across the street from us.

1927
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:13,420
In the letter,

1928
03:24:16,360 --> 03:24:24,040
she accuses me of racial profiling, abusing my office intimidation and harassment.

1929
03:24:24,040 --> 03:24:30,180
The letter was received in City Hall last Tuesday.

1930
03:24:30,640 --> 03:24:35,220
I saw it for the first time this evening, so I didn't know it exist.

1931
03:24:35,720 --> 03:24:42,320
In the meantime, I had also called Animal Control for the first time on Friday morning at 7.15.

1932
03:24:42,840 --> 03:24:52,360
So unfortunately, that came four days after the letter was received in City Hall, which makes for a rather awkward situation, as you might imagine.

1933
03:24:54,040 --> 03:24:59,960
So, I think that when you read it, it is quite-

1934
03:25:03,240 --> 03:25:09,420
I'm not quite sure how to address the claims in order.

1935
03:25:12,130 --> 03:25:22,350
I don't know how. That discussion hasn't occurred yet, but I did want you to know that it has come in. It is loaded

1936
03:25:25,000 --> 03:25:34,120
with lots of, well, I'm not going to characterize it. I'll send you information later, but just know that when you read it, please. And I hope you know me.

1937
03:25:34,120 --> 03:25:35,460
when you're reading. Thank you.

1938
03:25:39,610 --> 03:25:42,270
Any other council members wish to make a report? Council member Grimes.

1939
03:25:42,930 --> 03:25:43,350
Thank you, Mayor.

1940
03:25:45,070 --> 03:25:49,550
Just wanted to let everybody know that the rotary peach orders have been submitted.

1941
03:25:49,690 --> 03:25:52,170
So if you didn't get yours in this year, you'll have to wait until next year.

1942
03:25:53,350 --> 03:25:59,210
Also wanted to talk about had the pleasure of attending the Adam's 14,

1943
03:25:59,770 --> 03:26:02,490
14 or Fest Gala last week on Thursday evening.

1944
03:26:02,530 --> 03:26:04,410
And what an amazing event that is.

1945
03:26:04,410 --> 03:26:06,550
and how special to be a part of that evening

1946
03:26:06,550 --> 03:26:08,670
and see these students receive their scholarships

1947
03:26:08,670 --> 03:26:12,170
and give their testimony about how they've grown up

1948
03:26:12,170 --> 03:26:14,010
and the opportunity that this affords them,

1949
03:26:14,090 --> 03:26:15,630
that they may not have otherwise been able to

1950
03:26:16,110 --> 03:26:18,650
in some cases and it was just truly an inspiration

1951
03:26:18,650 --> 03:26:21,850
to see these kids and the excitement in their families.

1952
03:26:23,310 --> 03:26:25,650
Just looking forward to their futures in the next chapter

1953
03:26:25,650 --> 03:26:29,010
and so really happy to be a part of that last week

1954
03:26:29,010 --> 03:26:31,070
and I would encourage everybody to try to attend it

1955
03:26:31,070 --> 03:26:33,910
next year if you can, just really inspiring.

1956
03:26:35,310 --> 03:26:42,130
And then, lastly, on Saturday had the pleasure of attending a ribbon cutting for peak

1957
03:26:42,130 --> 03:26:47,070
martial arts up in the reunion area, really excited to welcome them to the neighborhood

1958
03:26:47,070 --> 03:26:50,370
and look forward to seeing them be successful.

1959
03:26:53,300 --> 03:26:59,520
May I make one other comment in response to Council Member Noble's letter?

1960
03:27:02,610 --> 03:27:13,170
As of late, I've really taken the thought process that the things we see come in like that and the things we see in the media are always hyped.

1961
03:27:13,670 --> 03:27:26,630
There's two sides to every story, and I really, I just want to say to you, I hope it brings you comfort to know that I recognize that things are not always what they seem when those types of letters are received or when something is in the media.

1962
03:27:26,630 --> 03:27:38,310
or I think that it's always, I look to our politicians at the higher levels and I see them go through these kinds of struggles publicly and I don't think it's fair.

1963
03:27:38,570 --> 03:27:42,450
I think they always look for the worst in each situation and put it out there, right?

1964
03:27:42,630 --> 03:27:47,070
And so just know that I will read that with an open mind when I do see it.

1965
03:27:47,070 --> 03:27:47,850
Any

1966
03:27:53,580 --> 03:27:56,200
other council members wishing to make a report? Council member Medair?

1967
03:27:59,220 --> 03:28:07,220
Yeah, I want to first of all thank our police for the response that they had to the traumatic event last week in our community and

1968
03:28:08,380 --> 03:28:18,540
I was fortunate enough to attend the event with the mayor that the police put on for the community where they want to provide some transparency and

1969
03:28:18,540 --> 03:28:23,980
And you know, share the information that they could share with the community to let them

1970
03:28:23,980 --> 03:28:29,800
know that, you know, we do live, we're fortunate to live in a community where this is in a

1971
03:28:29,800 --> 03:28:30,480
regular occurrence.

1972
03:28:32,360 --> 03:28:37,820
And so when things like this do happen, you know, it obviously shakes us up.

1973
03:28:38,000 --> 03:28:43,980
And, you know, especially for the officers that were involved and, you know, no one ever

1974
03:28:43,980 --> 03:28:50,640
expects what had happened to happen and just the fact that they put on this

1975
03:28:50,640 --> 03:28:54,240
event for the community to be transparent to let the community know that they

1976
03:28:54,240 --> 03:28:59,500
live in a safe community and that the officers did absolutely everything that

1977
03:28:59,500 --> 03:29:04,420
they could protect you know the children in the park is the close proximity that

1978
03:29:04,420 --> 03:29:10,820
this took place and and just let the community know reassure them that they're

1979
03:29:10,820 --> 03:29:17,320
in a safe community, you know, they have done a lot of, you know, looking back on this

1980
03:29:18,050 --> 03:29:21,920
event and incidents and seeing if there was anything that they could have done to prevent

1981
03:29:21,920 --> 03:29:28,420
this or if they would have had any indication that this was going to happen and, you know,

1982
03:29:28,540 --> 03:29:38,960
there wasn't, it was a pretty random event between two neighbors and just the fact that the

1983
03:29:38,960 --> 03:29:56,640
Police Department, you know, put on this event, it says a lot about the professionalism that we have in our department, you know, shootings, unfortunately a regular current in metro area and a lot of places, you know, see them more often.

1984
03:29:56,640 --> 03:29:59,960
and then there was, you know, like, four shootings and four...

1985
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:28,660
4 hours last weekend. And so, I don't think their police go to the same lengths to reach out to the community and let them know what the police is doing to keep them safe. So, you know, thank you to the PD, our investigative unit, Commander Flynn, the chief, you know, deputy chief moon, and, you know, there are several other officers that were there,

1986
03:30:28,660 --> 03:30:35,560
that we're in the community letting them know, so appreciate that.

1987
03:30:38,780 --> 03:30:39,900
Any other councilmembers?

1988
03:30:41,140 --> 03:30:42,100
Councilmember Allen Thomas?

1989
03:30:42,940 --> 03:30:49,600
Yes, thank you, and I also just forgot to mention I last Tuesday night, I hosted the

1990
03:30:49,600 --> 03:30:55,220
national, my family, and I hosted the national night out, and just would also like to thank

1991
03:30:55,220 --> 03:31:13,040
I think the Commerce City Officers that came and participated and also the South Adams Firemen came and just seeing their interaction with the residents and constituents and just how they give back that part of the money to the residents in our area and it was an enjoyable event.

1992
03:31:13,320 --> 03:31:18,820
So I just wanted to also tell them thank you for making that happen this year again. Thank you.

1993
03:31:18,820 --> 03:31:26,150
Thank you. Any other reports? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and go through mine.

1994
03:31:28,310 --> 03:31:32,790
Thursday evening, I had the privilege of judging the old-fashioned pie-baking contest at the

1995
03:31:32,790 --> 03:31:37,010
Adams County Fair along with several other members in the community. We judged the eight to

1996
03:31:37,010 --> 03:31:40,590
thirteen-year-olds and pretty amazing to see what those kids were able to produce in pie.

1997
03:31:40,910 --> 03:31:45,570
I think I gained about five pounds in that event alone, but just absolutely phenomenal.

1998
03:31:45,570 --> 03:31:49,210
and so greatly appreciate the invitation to be there and be part of that.

1999
03:31:49,750 --> 03:31:53,610
Later that evening, attended the Adam's 14 education, 14 or fast.

2000
03:31:54,350 --> 03:31:59,770
Would like to congratulate all the recipients of scholarships and extend a personal note of appreciation to the businesses and

2001
03:31:59,770 --> 03:32:03,370
community members that donated money in their time to not only make that a venous success, but

2002
03:32:03,370 --> 03:32:05,150
also promote education in our community.

2003
03:32:05,710 --> 03:32:08,070
That is just absolutely a phenomenal organization.

2004
03:32:08,490 --> 03:32:12,110
And I think it's great that we have businesses that have stepped up and

2005
03:32:12,110 --> 03:32:23,450
and put together a program that gives the opportunity for people to go to school and go to school debt-free and not be saddled with years of paying back student loan debted extremely insane interest rates for that.

2006
03:32:23,670 --> 03:32:25,150
So, thank you to everybody involved in that.

2007
03:32:25,850 --> 03:32:29,430
Leaving the 14th of fest, I stopped by the third of our four music in the park events.

2008
03:32:29,730 --> 03:32:33,270
Last of them will be this Thursday at Fairfax Park, and I look forward to seeing everybody there.

2009
03:32:34,010 --> 03:32:38,890
Friday evening, I attended the Colorado Hispanic Chamber of Commerce sub-ore event at the Botanical Gardens.

2010
03:32:38,890 --> 03:32:42,850
was happy to see El Coco Parate, a chain of restaurants with location here in

2011
03:32:42,850 --> 03:32:46,130
Commerce City, represented at the event. And we'll say it's one of the one

2012
03:32:46,130 --> 03:32:50,070
restaurants that we returned to for multiple bites of their delicious food. So

2013
03:32:50,070 --> 03:32:53,030
if you have not been to that restaurant, I highly recommend going down there

2014
03:32:53,030 --> 03:32:56,930
and trying out some of their food. It was knocked our socks off. And again, just

2015
03:32:56,930 --> 03:33:00,390
glad to see them as part of the event. Sadly, morning was also at the ribbon

2016
03:33:00,390 --> 03:33:03,570
cutting for peak martial arts. Congratulations to the Mitchell's on opening your

2017
03:33:03,570 --> 03:33:06,530
second location. We're happy to have you as part of our community. It's gonna be a

2018
03:33:06,530 --> 03:33:09,950
great resource for young adults and youth in our community

2019
03:33:09,950 --> 03:33:12,050
to have another amenity for recreation.

2020
03:33:12,330 --> 03:33:13,070
So glad to have you there.

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After that, I stopped by the Adams 14 School Resource Fair.

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Would like to thank the representatives

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of the Quality Community Foundation,

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Senior Commission, Youth Commission, Cultural Council,

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and Sheryl Steinberg with our CDBG office

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for being there to distribute information.

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I know Sheryl had a lot of people come by

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and get information on minor home repair program

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and the brother's painathon and things like that.

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And the youth commission there to try to recruit new members

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for the upcoming school year, great to see that in senior commission, I think they ran out of all their material within about 30 minutes of being there, so great to have all those organizations present in order to help distribute and be part of that resource fair. So thank you.

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After that, I also attended the public safety meeting held at the American Legion by our police department. I would like to thank Chief Nichols, Deputy Chief Moon and Commander Flynn for providing a very valuable update on last week's situation as well as the efforts in the community.

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And also to the residents who took the time to go and be involved.

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I also want to say thank you to all the officers that responded the way you did that evening.

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True acts of heroism, and it takes a brave person to run towards gunfire instead of run away from it.

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And our officers answered the call in a heroic fashion and deserved nothing but praise from every member of this community for the way that they responded for the way that they were able to keep the members of the park safe.

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and just everything about that response is just top notch and really goes to

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show what that police department is capable of and thank every single one of you

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for everything that you did to read them, cards to that. Today I had a meeting with

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the senior VP for the Northern area of ENT Credit Union and in the afternoon I

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met with representatives of McWinney who were negotiating a purchase and

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sale agreement for development at the Third Creek West property. I think it was

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very productive meeting and look forward to seeing them actually get that

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purchase and sale agreement finalized and start construction out there. They have

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and just create.

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We took a gamble a couple of years ago, whenever we authorize the loan of the ERAGID money to the Crowley Company, and we took a gamble thinking that it was going to pay off, and if what they plan on building comes to fruition, that gamble is going to pay off tenfold. So greatly appreciate the fact that that project is moving forward. Obviously, you saw we're going to have some votes coming up on some IGA's and everything, and it's great that we are going to be able to do that.

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tap into an area of land and what they really want to focus on is some aerospace and you know

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development and stuff like that out next to the airport and you know what a perfect opportunity

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and we talk all the time about Aerotropolis and what it brings to the to the market and here's

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an opportunity for us to start putting the routes out there and so I'm just very excited to see

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that go forward as with all the other projects that we have in the queue and you know what we set

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a couple weeks ago at the site selection guild we've got seven million square feet of industrial warehouse

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space that is being under construction or in the plans for construction and that's huge and

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every single person that I've repeated that line to has looked at me with the word wow and that

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is huge what we're doing and so when we talk about budget and we talk about growth and everything

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it's good to see that we're not just seeing the residential growth we're seeing the other side of it

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now we just got to focus on that commercial and that retail piece and this city is going to come alive

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so that is all I have for the report thank you very much your time and listening to me ramble on

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about all that and we will move on to an adjournment and we'll call the special meeting

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to order and ask the city clerk to call the roll.

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Mayor Hughesman.

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Present. Mayor Proton Frank. Present. Council Member Madera.

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Present. Council Member Ellen Thomas. Present. Council Member Noble.

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Present. Council Member Wardiola. Present. Council Member Hurst.

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Council Member Grimes. Present. Council Member Smith. Present.

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Mary you have a quorum and just as a reminder we'll be using the room recorder for the executive

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session tonight so please make sure your mics are turned on and you're speaking clearly

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into your microphones. Thank you. Thank you sir appreciate that. We are all present in

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accounted for so there is no need to have an additional voter motion. What I'm looking for now is

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a motion and a second to enter into an executive session pursuant to CRS24-6-4L2.

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parentheses for sub-rentices E for the purpose of determining positions relative to matters that

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It may be subject to negotiations concerning incentives for a potential economic development

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project within the city.

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Council member Grimes.

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So moved.

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Council member Wadiola.

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Second.

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Have a motion and a second to enter into executive session.

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For the reasons I stated prior and will not repeat for a second time, is there any discussion?

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Seeing the request for a discussion, we will do a voice vote all those in favor signify

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by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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The motion carries 9-0, which is unanimous.

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The City Council will now enter into executive session.

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The City Council will not be taking action following the executive session, and the meeting

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will adjourn immediately following the executive session without further discussion of public

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business.

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The Zoom meeting and broadcast for this meeting will be ended at this time.

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Have a good night, have a good week, and we'll see you next week for a regularly scheduled

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Council meeting. Mayor Assuming this.